The John-Henry Westen Show - The second Eucharistic prayer in the Novus Ordo Mass was hastily rewritten at a restaurant

00:00:00.000 The sacristan is taking the remnants of the precious blood in 10 chalices and squirting detergent, dove soap into all of them and washing them.

00:00:12.060 And that's it.

00:00:13.180 I stopped him.

00:00:14.180 I said, what are you doing?

00:00:15.260 He said, well, this is the way we clean the chalices.

00:00:17.920 I said, this is insane.

00:00:19.720 Anyway, I took over.

00:00:22.560 And after we were done, I've done, the mass is finished.

00:00:26.000 I said to the pastor, a monsignor, I said, do you realize that the sacristan, what's the problem?

00:00:32.800 I said, what's the problem?

00:00:35.680 What do you mean, what's the problem?

00:00:37.840 I said, this is the precious blood of Christ that's left over from mass.

00:00:43.380 You don't dispose of it this way.

00:00:45.340 It's outrageous.

00:00:46.400 He said, you know, I'm going to tell you something, Father.

00:00:48.640 If you don't like the way we do things here at St. Such and Such, you can go elsewhere.

00:00:54.300 While Pope Francis and many of his friends in Rome seem to be wanting to crush the Latin 1.00

00:01:01.760 mass, there's all sorts of liturgical abuse going on.

00:01:05.260 In fact, just this week at LifeSite News, we featured a Switzerland so-called Catholic 0.85

00:01:11.920 church, by the way, in a diocese that is headed by a bishop who supports same-sex marriage.

00:01:17.500 I'm not kidding.

00:01:18.280 You can't make this stuff up.

00:01:19.180 Anyway, right in that church is featured a woman seeming to concelebrate mass with a 0.99

00:01:25.800 priest.

00:01:26.760 You got to watch it for yourself.

00:01:28.000 See this.

00:01:28.320 And that's what we're going to talk about today.

00:01:55.720 On this episode of the John Henry Weston Show, and we've got a great guest, Father Charles

00:02:00.920 Murr has been on a number of times already.

00:02:03.960 He is the author of Murder in the 33rd Degree, but he's also a priest who was involved with

00:02:11.460 various bishops and cardinals in the Vatican, who has given us some of the most deep insights

00:02:16.260 that we've ever seen.

00:02:17.460 He's been such a popular guest.

00:02:18.960 He's been asked to come back again.

00:02:20.940 Stay tuned for this episode.

00:02:22.020 Thank you.

00:02:48.960 Father, welcome back.

00:02:50.720 Thank you, John Henry.

00:02:51.580 Thank you for having me.

00:02:53.460 Father, if you wouldn't mind leading us off with the sign of the cross, that would be awesome.

00:02:56.440 I wouldn't mind at all.

00:02:57.460 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost, amen.

00:03:01.060 Amen.

00:03:01.720 So, Father, you saw that clip of the woman doing—I don't even know what to call it.

00:03:08.240 Tell us what you make of that, and give us your take on all these things.

00:03:12.180 This latter part of my life, I've used the word outrageous so many times, it's losing

00:03:17.140 its impact.

00:03:18.540 It's outrageous.

00:03:19.860 It's just outrageous.

00:03:22.360 Outrageous.

00:03:23.140 There's so much wrong with it, to unpack it would take too long.

00:03:28.620 It's simply wrong.

00:03:30.420 It's simply wrong, and any good Catholic knows that. 0.99

00:03:34.340 Why these bishops—and there are many, there are many—tolerate such things isn't a mystery.

00:03:42.180 It's not a mystery.

00:03:43.940 That's what they want.

00:03:45.480 They're not tolerating it.

00:03:47.220 This is fine for them.

00:03:49.360 When we were—you and I were talking just a little bit before, I could name, besides what

00:03:55.500 we just saw, a hundred other liturgical abuses that I've seen in my life, some of them incredibly

00:04:02.720 strong, horrible things, others less, but equally wrong.

00:04:07.160 I don't think the same thing could be said.

00:04:09.380 Could the same thing be said about the Latin Mass?

00:04:13.060 Do you know of any liturgical abuses in the traditional Latin Mass?

00:04:17.760 I don't.

00:04:18.280 And I've gone to hundreds of them, thousands of them, and I say that Latin Mass, the traditional

00:04:25.060 Latin Mass every day.

00:04:26.240 As a matter of fact, if you're following what it is, the way it's supposed to be said, you

00:04:32.660 can't liturgically abuse it.

00:04:35.860 You can't.

00:04:36.760 It's impossible.

00:04:38.140 Right?

00:04:38.660 Anyway.

00:04:40.220 But all of that is tolerated.

00:04:42.400 All of the—all of the—these horrific things are tolerated.

00:04:45.620 And the thing that is not tolerated, not tolerated, is the Latin Mass. 0.92

00:04:52.540 That's not tolerated.

00:04:53.900 What's wrong with this picture?

00:04:55.680 I used to have a friend who would say that often.

00:04:57.600 What's wrong with this picture?

00:04:59.640 A lot.

00:05:00.560 If you could describe for us—so the way this came about, you know, it was after the

00:05:07.220 Second Vatican Council.

00:05:08.340 It was by the Concilium.

00:05:10.060 They decided, they made the changes.

00:05:11.720 But it seemed, at least from a historical perspective that I've read about, that the insanity almost

00:05:19.240 launched from the beginning.

00:05:21.020 And obviously, it continues to today.

00:05:23.640 But tell us from your experience, what have you seen?

00:05:26.820 Right from the beginning, it started in Rome.

00:05:30.060 It started in Rome.

00:05:31.580 When Bonini, Archbishop Bonini, decided he was going to redo the entire liturgy, and he

00:05:38.940 had a lot of help with that.

00:05:42.060 Everyone who was involved with it was a liberal in the worst sense of the word, and they had

00:05:49.920 an agenda.

00:05:50.460 The Second Vatican Council says beautifully that not one word of the Roman canon is to

00:05:58.600 be touched.

00:05:59.580 Let me just back up a little bit, just a moment here.

00:06:03.180 There was a particular need for some liturgical renewal in the Church.

00:06:09.260 There's no question of that.

00:06:10.960 Even Pope Pius XII himself was beginning a liturgical renewal.

00:06:17.960 Now, when I say that, by no means am I talking about what we have today, or anything like

00:06:25.340 what we have today.

00:06:27.080 Mother Pasqualina, who was Pius XII's secretary for 42 years almost, was a very dear and close

00:06:33.920 friend of mine.

00:06:34.760 We met many times a month for many years.

00:06:38.480 And she told me that Pius XII himself, first of all, in China, had permitted the mass to

00:06:46.400 be in Chinese.

00:06:47.520 When the missionaries were going there, they couldn't start in Latin, which is completely

00:06:52.600 foreign to any experience that the Chinese would have of religion.

00:06:57.200 He gave permission for the mass to be done in Chinese to begin with.

00:07:01.520 And when people would become educated in the faith, then it was to go into the Latin.

00:07:06.940 But that's where they would begin.

00:07:09.200 Why?

00:07:10.500 Because a lot of our viewers are not Latin mass Catholics.

00:07:16.240 Why would you want to switch to Latin?

00:07:19.360 What is it about Latin that's so important in the first place?

00:07:22.280 Most people nowadays are experiencing mass in what we call the vernacular or whatever,

00:07:26.220 you know, English or Chinese as there, but why would the Holy Father want to switch back

00:07:32.660 to Latin?

00:07:33.260 What is it about Latin?

00:07:34.900 One of the things key to having Latin and to using Latin, it gives very well the idea

00:07:43.020 that the mass is not being directed to you.

00:07:46.160 I'm not speaking to you.

00:07:48.040 It's like I had two altar boys the first time that they helped serve the Latin mass.

00:07:54.840 And I was teaching a little bit.

00:07:57.540 They got, we got back into the sacristy and I said, well, you did very well, boys.

00:08:01.480 You did very well.

00:08:02.640 Thank you.

00:08:03.440 And one of them said, but I didn't understand anything.

00:08:06.820 And I said to him, quite simply, I wasn't talking to you.

00:08:10.440 It's directed to God.

00:08:12.320 The Latin mass, it's not just the language.

00:08:15.420 The entire Tridentine mass is directed to God.

00:08:19.540 That's who we're talking to.

00:08:20.940 And everyone else, I loved, I loved the, the, the, the comment that, uh, uh, who is the

00:08:28.080 actor who just converted to Catholicism?

00:08:30.340 Shia LaBeouf.

00:08:31.360 Yes.

00:08:31.920 Shia LaBeouf.

00:08:32.960 I love what he said.

00:08:35.120 Listen to how, how beautiful this is.

00:08:37.280 He said he had gone to Novus Ordo masses with guitars and hallelujahs and somersaults and

00:08:43.780 everything else.

00:08:44.320 He said, and what did he say?

00:08:46.980 He said, I always got the impression somebody was trying to sell me a car.

00:08:50.040 I love that.

00:08:51.220 I love that.

00:08:52.180 And did, did you see, did you see Bishop LeBaron's, uh, uh, face up?

00:08:56.780 Fred, priceless.

00:08:58.400 Anyway, but he said this, he said, and the Latin mass was almost as if you were being pulled

00:09:06.240 into something.

00:09:08.000 You were being taken into something and elevated or words to those effect.

00:09:14.780 The Latin makes it very, very plain that this is not about you.

00:09:20.100 Of course, it's for your benefit.

00:09:21.660 Don't get me wrong, but we're directing everything toward God.

00:09:25.720 The position of the priest is toward God.

00:09:29.460 This is the idea.

00:09:30.740 When I was a boy, when I was a boy, one of the first comments that I said to my grandmother,

00:09:35.640 she would take me to mass on Sundays and I would be over at her house for the weekend.

00:09:41.220 I said, but why does the priest have, have his back to the, to the, to the people?

00:09:46.300 I don't know, five or six or seven years old, whatever I was.

00:09:48.940 And she said, because he's, he's, he's directing his prayer to God.

00:09:55.100 I said, well, that, you know, that's, that, that doesn't make sense because we can't see

00:09:58.520 it.

00:09:58.680 She said, he said, do you remember the other day we went on a bus?

00:10:02.220 It was the first time I'd gone on a bus.

00:10:04.300 And I said, yes, yes, yes.

00:10:06.040 She said, would you like the bus driver to have turned around and started talking to us

00:10:10.380 while we were going down Robert street?

00:10:12.400 Would you like that?

00:10:13.420 I said, oh no.

00:10:14.260 He said, well, that's the same idea.

00:10:15.900 We're going towards something together.

00:10:17.640 And Latin is conducive toward that. 0.50

00:10:21.800 It is, it is, it's also something else that's very important.

00:10:25.180 And I just had an interview the other day in Spanish with, with Luis Ramon, Roman.

00:10:32.280 What a great guy, great guy.

00:10:34.280 We were talking about the same thing.

00:10:36.380 And, and it's, it's, it's this, we use Latin.

00:10:40.680 We're the Latin writer of the Catholic church.

00:10:43.920 Latin is the language that is ours officially.

00:10:47.640 And listen to this irony.

00:10:49.600 And it's a beautiful irony.

00:10:51.320 What I have two great ironies that I love about the Catholic faith.

00:10:55.300 One is from the first Vatican council, the dogma of faith that says, you do not need faith

00:11:01.900 to know that God exists.

00:11:04.320 Reason can bring you to the, to the fact that God exists.

00:11:07.340 Now, this is, you do not need faith that God exists.

00:11:12.340 Dogma of faith.

00:11:15.660 It's a dogma of it.

00:11:16.900 It's beautiful.

00:11:17.960 It's a beautiful, it's beautiful.

00:11:19.560 Right.

00:11:19.900 But the other one is that Latin, that Latin is a dead language.

00:11:24.380 My father used to say that German was a dead language.

00:11:27.960 And when I went to go study in Austria, I said, German is not a dead language.

00:11:31.420 It's quite alive.

00:11:32.220 And he said, no, no, no.

00:11:33.440 He said, it's dead because only the dead have enough time to study its grammar.

00:11:39.040 Anyway, Latin is a, is a dead language.

00:11:41.940 And that doesn't mean that it's, it's passe and it's, we should bury it.

00:11:45.700 It means that it has stopped developing as a language.

00:11:50.620 Every six months to a year, some words in English, especially in American English will

00:11:55.720 change meaning.

00:11:56.760 And then, then you have this crazy verbs like to get, to get up, to get out, to get over,

00:12:02.140 to get around, and they all, everything means things, but, but it evolves.

00:12:06.700 It keeps changing.

00:12:08.220 Latin is finished. 0.98

00:12:10.000 All of our dogmas are in Latin.

00:12:12.900 Scripture is in Latin.

00:12:14.460 If you want to know what it means, you have to study it.

00:12:19.360 It's not going to betray you and change.

00:12:22.260 This is why it's a stability.

00:12:24.080 It gives a great stability to the faith.

00:12:26.000 And this is why the official language of the church is still Latin, but it also has a wonderful,

00:12:31.660 beautiful, mystical sense.

00:12:33.860 And when the priest is talking, he is talking to God.

00:12:38.380 And, and this is, this is the, this is the, if you will, for us, the language of God.

00:12:43.460 It's a mystery in itself.

00:12:45.620 And it's beautiful.

00:12:46.840 And if you say that people don't understand it, that's not true.

00:12:50.720 People always understood what was going on with the mass.

00:12:53.460 They always understood it.

00:12:55.100 Those who wanted to understand it, understood it.

00:12:57.820 Those who never want, didn't want to understand it, never could.

00:13:00.820 They just couldn't figure it out.

00:13:02.020 That's it.

00:13:02.500 But they never gave me any time to it.

00:13:04.300 It was always understood.

00:13:05.640 I understood it when I was seven, eight, nine, 10, 12 years old, 15 years old.

00:13:10.240 We understood.

00:13:11.040 We knew exactly what was going on during mass.

00:13:13.860 But it's beauty.

00:13:15.540 And also, also, you'll, you'll pardon me, but I have a degree in also in romance languages.

00:13:20.500 So I'm a little bit biased on this, right?

00:13:22.940 The sound of Latin.

00:13:24.720 The sound of Latin.

00:13:27.180 It, its cadence is beautiful.

00:13:30.040 It's music.

00:13:30.780 It's like Italian.

00:13:31.540 I don't think there's anybody in the world who hates the sound of Italian, except maybe

00:13:36.640 a couple of husbands.

00:13:38.060 Do you remember?

00:13:38.440 There's a, there's a YouTube video that talks about the word ambulance, ambulance, but in

00:13:43.580 German, it comes back with krankenwagen.

00:13:46.340 So it doesn't work so well.

00:13:48.820 Doesn't work, does it?

00:13:49.960 No.

00:13:50.840 It doesn't do it.

00:13:52.080 So, but there's a beauty.

00:13:53.820 And if anybody who's listening knows Spanish or knows Italian or Portuguese, even French,

00:13:59.880 the rhythm and the rhyming is so fantastic because of all of the use of vowels.

00:14:05.020 And it just sounds beautiful.

00:14:06.600 It sounds musical.

00:14:08.200 It sounds harmonious.

00:14:09.660 It's beautiful.

00:14:10.700 It's beautiful.

00:14:11.260 I think people need to hear that because that's where there's a lot of confusion because

00:14:15.900 the arguments really haven't been enunciated very well.

00:14:19.880 And so people are left wondering what's with the Latin anyway.

00:14:23.140 Um, but wanted to get to what you've already experienced as a priest.

00:14:28.680 You've seen, uh, thousands of masses, probably many, many more than anyone else will.

00:14:36.140 You've seen, you've mentioned, you've seen a lot of abuses.

00:14:39.700 Give us a couple of those just to tell us where we're at right now and where we really

00:14:46.820 need to go.

00:14:47.360 Let me just back up a moment.

00:14:49.240 This man, Hannibal Bognini, an archbishop, was in charge of liturgical reform, read that

00:14:57.360 teaching of the Second Vatican Council that the Roman canon was not to be touched.

00:15:01.520 Not one word was to be touched.

00:15:04.220 You'll forgive me for this little, little detour I'm going to make.

00:15:07.180 John the 23rd, Pope John the 23rd knew very well.

00:15:11.140 I'm not saying he's not a saint, all right?

00:15:12.960 But he knew very well that he was elected to die. 0.90

00:15:16.640 He was elected to die. 0.87

00:15:18.620 He was a placeholder. 0.98

00:15:20.360 And he knew that.

00:15:22.180 And when you tell a man that he was, you're elected to die, the collar goes up a little

00:15:26.300 bit.

00:15:26.620 Oh, really?

00:15:27.820 Oh, really?

00:15:29.040 Well, let me show you.

00:15:31.200 So he called a council.

00:15:33.400 That wasn't in the, that wasn't in the, in the, in the works at all.

00:15:37.080 He also, when the council declared that nothing was to change in the Roman canon, he said,

00:15:42.960 well, I'm the Pope.

00:15:43.880 I'm adding St.

00:15:44.740 Joseph.

00:15:45.880 And there was a whole group of, of, of, of, of, of, in the, in the College of Cardinals

00:15:50.740 and of bishops.

00:15:51.740 You can't do that.

00:15:52.940 You can't do that.

00:15:53.600 Not a word is to be added.

00:15:55.360 He said, well, I'm the Pope and I'm adding St.

00:15:57.360 Joseph.

00:15:58.320 Right?

00:15:58.720 Now we applaud that because we love St.

00:16:00.720 Joseph.

00:16:01.360 But if you look at the legal problem of it, it was something he said, no, I'm here.

00:16:06.280 I'm alive.

00:16:07.500 You might've, you might've elected me to die, but I'm, I'm, I'm breathing and I'm quite

00:16:11.160 well.

00:16:11.900 Right?

00:16:12.040 The council anyway, went into this, this whole thing, and you can't touch the Roman 1.00

00:16:17.100 canon.

00:16:18.580 So Bunini started changing everything else around it.

00:16:22.120 Now, when we say the Roman canon, the canon of the mass is from the Sanctus, holy, holy,

00:16:27.400 holy, the, the, the, the three times holy from the Sanctus until the great amen.

00:16:34.160 Through him, with him, and in him.

00:16:38.120 I'm forgetting it in English.

00:16:39.180 Uh, and that's the canon.

00:16:42.180 That's what cannot be changed.

00:16:44.240 So Bunini said, all right, we won't change it.

00:16:47.240 And it was to remain in Latin.

00:16:49.300 Now, one word was to change it.

00:16:50.840 It was to remain in Latin.

00:16:52.020 Bunini said, well, all right, we won't change that.

00:16:54.540 We'll just invent three more.

00:16:56.340 And which is what he did.

00:16:57.880 These are the Eucharistic prayers.

00:17:00.060 Now, I said this before, and it almost sounds like I'm making this up, but the Eucharistic

00:17:06.500 prayer, number two, is probably the most used.

00:17:10.680 It's the most, it's the most common.

00:17:12.540 It's the one that everybody knows.

00:17:13.680 Why do they know it?

00:17:14.940 Because it's so beautiful?

00:17:16.500 Because it's, it has such rhythm and such cadence, such flow?

00:17:19.840 No, it's the shortest.

00:17:21.540 It's the shortest.

00:17:22.920 That's why it's the most popular.

00:17:24.700 Luis Bouyer, who worked with Bunini for years and had no time for it at all.

00:17:32.800 Luis Bouyer later on in life had a conversion.

00:17:35.380 And he really saw a lot of what he had worked on with Bunini as wrong.

00:17:43.060 But one of the things that is most incredible, and I want your listeners to hear this because

00:17:48.400 it's, it's, it's, it's outrageous.

00:17:50.760 He made a certain confession before he died.

00:17:54.260 And he said the following, you can read it in his autobiography.

00:17:58.440 I'm not, it's, it's public.

00:18:00.120 He said, I was told on short order that the second canon that I was working on, or the

00:18:06.280 second liturgical, Eucharistic prayer, we're called Eucharistic prayer number two, was to

00:18:11.280 be on Bunini's desk at 10 o'clock tomorrow morning, right?

00:18:17.280 That's, we had been working on this.

00:18:19.500 So I was in a restaurant.

00:18:22.120 He writes this.

00:18:23.080 I was in a restaurant in Trastevere having pizza.

00:18:26.380 I don't know what he's having, whatever he's having.

00:18:28.820 Calamari, whatever.

00:18:30.120 And he started writing out, he spent an hour and a half, two hours or whatever, writing

00:18:35.660 out the second Eucharistic prayer and had it on Bunini's desk in the morning.

00:18:40.280 So it was, it was written in a, in a, in a, in a Osteria in Trastevere.

00:18:45.360 This isn't, this isn't the mass.

00:18:48.380 Our mass, the canon of the mass is 2000 years old parts of it.

00:18:54.000 It goes back to the apostles.

00:18:55.880 If, if there are any changes that are made, they were usually additions to, not subtractions

00:19:03.440 from, additions to it, from different liturgical experiences, this, that, and the other thing.

00:19:09.380 We call it the Tridentine mass because the Council of Trent, by order of Pius V, Pius V said,

00:19:17.600 look, we've got this right over here, that right over there, it's going, we're going to make one solid right.

00:19:23.140 So there'll not be differences in every place.

00:19:25.160 And it's going to be called, this is the Roman, the Roman missile, the Roman mass, right?

00:19:29.600 That's it.

00:19:30.140 But to say, to say, I mean, it would, people wouldn't believe you if you said, well, I'm just going to, I'm going to invent a new mass.

00:19:40.960 I'm going to sit down here on a cocktail napkin and write out a new canon for the mass.

00:19:45.900 And then you're going to use it from now on.

00:19:48.640 And you're going to use it as if it were the word of God.

00:19:52.380 But you and I know that it comes from a Trastevere Osteria, right? 0.97

00:19:57.920 After a couple of glasses of wine.

00:19:59.300 I once saw a side-by-side comparison.

00:20:03.220 And in a side-by-side comparison, they show you, in fact, it's done in Mass of the Ages, it's done it as well.

00:20:09.300 They show you what they delete.

00:20:11.660 And you're deleting prayers that are listed as the timeline from apostolic times.

00:20:18.240 Yes.

00:20:19.180 How do you even think to do that?

00:20:22.920 Just a quick note before we return.

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00:20:44.640 And now, back to the video.

00:20:46.740 You're dealing also with a lot of people who were ignorant on liturgical matters, even priests.

00:20:54.420 Because before the council, priests were taught how to say the Mass.

00:21:00.500 There was only the Mass.

00:21:02.060 It was the Mass, period. 0.60

00:21:04.220 You were taught how to say it, and it was done this way and that way.

00:21:08.260 There's an aspect about the Mass that I said to somebody joking the other day, but it wasn't a joke.

00:21:13.880 When I said the Trinity Mass, every single thing has a movement, a motion, what you're supposed to be thinking, a bow, straight up.

00:21:27.840 You are so into it, doing everything.

00:21:31.240 Your body and your soul are involved in it.

00:21:33.640 You don't have time for a fleeting thought.

00:21:35.860 Oh, I thought of this during Mass.

00:21:40.580 No, no, no, no.

00:21:41.700 You're there.

00:21:43.900 You're concentrating on what you're doing, and it's beautiful.

00:21:47.920 You don't just take a Mass and add things to it and then throw things out.

00:21:52.480 You don't do that, and that's what was done.

00:21:55.820 When people saw that that could be done, what I'm telling you with Boyer is a new revelation.

00:22:02.640 We only just found out about that a few years ago.

00:22:04.880 But they suspected, and people suspected this all along, that these were just creations of people.

00:22:10.820 Well, if they can create these things in Rome, and then we had Mass for children, Mass for grandparents, Mass for yodelers, Mass for this, Mass for...

00:22:22.880 When priests started seeing that, they said, well, anybody can create anything.

00:22:28.780 Sure.

00:22:30.020 Well, let me throw my personality into this whole thing.

00:22:33.180 So now you have the Mass of Father Bob and the Mass of Father Ted and the Mass of this one and that one.

00:22:40.500 And I have never seen two priests say the same Mass in the Novus Ordo.

00:22:45.260 I've seen 100 priests say the Tridentine Mass all the same.

00:22:49.400 It's all the same.

00:22:50.220 But I've never seen two priests say the same Mass in the Novus Ordo, because it's about the personality of the priest, too.

00:22:58.780 And this is what Leboeuf was saying when he was talking to Bishop Barrett.

00:23:03.920 It's exactly what he was saying.

00:23:05.000 I felt that somebody wasn't selling me a car.

00:23:08.560 Well, what is he talking about?

00:23:09.640 The personality of the priest is the most important thing in the Mass.

00:23:14.020 No, it's not.

00:23:15.500 No, it's not.

00:23:16.580 That the priest gives you his back.

00:23:19.420 He's not giving you his back.

00:23:21.540 What he's doing is disappearing to you.

00:23:25.020 He's disappearing to you.

00:23:26.660 He is becoming not me.

00:23:28.780 It's not me.

00:23:30.160 If you can't see me, that's better.

00:23:32.580 I want you to see Christ.

00:23:33.860 That's who I'm representing is Christ.

00:23:38.880 There's a whole mysticism to the Mass that is no longer there.

00:23:44.020 And you mentioned this, too, and it's a good observation.

00:23:48.340 It's a fine one.

00:23:49.880 Prayers were changed.

00:23:51.520 Go back and look at the changes of those prayers.

00:23:54.020 John Henry, all of those prayers were changed this way.

00:23:57.800 Anything that referred to sacrifice, out.

00:24:00.960 Out.

00:24:03.240 Crucifixion, out.

00:24:04.720 Immolation, out.

00:24:08.100 The transubstantiation, that's something.

00:24:11.940 Out.

00:24:13.440 All of those are out.

00:24:14.760 They were all taken out of prayers.

00:24:18.660 Amazing.

00:24:19.320 Just amazing.

00:24:20.560 So that we alter the altar.

00:24:22.980 You don't want to talk about an altar.

00:24:24.100 No, it's a table.

00:24:26.700 This is not Good Friday.

00:24:28.080 This is Holy Thursday.

00:24:29.420 If it's anything, it's Holy Thursday.

00:24:31.840 All right.

00:24:32.420 What we forget is this.

00:24:34.020 I was one time invited to Santa Rosa to preach at all of the Masses.

00:24:43.140 There were eight Masses, I believe, at the Cathedral.

00:24:46.820 Therefore, I had never attended eight Masses in a row.

00:24:51.480 But I did on that Sunday.

00:24:53.760 I think it was the, and the feast was Corpus Christi.

00:24:59.400 That was the feast of this Sunday.

00:25:03.640 I'm listening.

00:25:05.320 I'm listening to Mass.

00:25:07.100 It's the first time in a long time I'm hearing Mass.

00:25:10.020 I say Mass every day.

00:25:11.960 I offer Mass every day.

00:25:13.000 But one of the first times that I'd heard Mass in a long time.

00:25:16.680 And I'm listening to Mass after Mass after Mass.

00:25:19.140 Finally, in about the fifth Mass, I heard something that I don't think I had ever heard before.

00:25:25.500 I was kneeling in the sanctuary.

00:25:28.640 And I heard the priest say very devoutly, the good priest, said,

00:25:35.100 This is the chalice of my blood, the blood of the new and everlasting covenant.

00:25:40.720 It will be shed for you and for many for the forgiveness of sin.

00:25:44.560 But this is what will be, present tense, future tense.

00:25:52.660 And it just struck me right then, good Lord, what the priest is saying and what Christ was saying at the Last Supper is,

00:26:03.020 This right now, here, Thursday, Holy Thursday, this right now here with you at this Last Supper is what tomorrow will be offered on the cross.

00:26:12.480 I'd never heard that before.

00:26:15.500 And it hit me.

00:26:16.740 It hit me so hard that I think I almost started crying.

00:26:22.340 This is what will be.

00:26:25.280 And what do we do at Mass?

00:26:27.920 We say, this is what was.

00:26:31.920 We pulled the past into the present as Christ pulled the future into the present to make himself present.

00:26:39.280 This is what's happening.

00:26:40.600 And what's really the problem, and you know it and I know it.

00:26:45.140 You know this very well and I know it and most of your listeners know it.

00:26:49.280 The real problem with the new Mass is that many of the people who are celebrating it, not offering, they don't offer Mass.

00:26:57.760 They celebrate it.

00:26:58.880 I'm no one to judge the internal thoughts and conditions of anyone.

00:27:04.620 But let me put it this way.

00:27:07.060 It gives me, by all outward signs, the idea that the person who is celebrating that Mass really does not believe that that is the body, blood, soul, and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ.

00:27:21.480 I don't get that idea.

00:27:23.640 Let me just put it this way.

00:27:24.980 That doesn't come through.

00:27:26.560 That does not come through.

00:27:27.920 Therefore, people have lost their own faith in it.

00:27:32.100 And when they see how the Eucharist is treated, they lose more faith in the real presence.

00:27:38.700 And it becomes like any Protestant service, a communion service, whatever they call them.

00:27:44.460 Of the 40,000 different Protestant churches, they all have their own sort of a communion.

00:27:49.580 That's all it is.

00:27:50.640 That's all it is.

00:27:53.220 That's why at weddings, funerals, this, that, and the other thing, when I was pastor of three parishes in Manhattan, I cringed every time I had a funeral or a wedding because I knew the majority of the people who were going to receive Holy Communion had no right to do that.

00:28:11.820 And that if they knew what they were doing, and I think a lot of them did, they were committing a sacrilege.

00:28:18.780 And so I would have to announce at every funeral and at every wedding, please, those who are able to receive, right?

00:28:27.980 And I always put this, I always put this, those who have not broken the fast, I put that as first reason.

00:28:35.580 Why?

00:28:36.340 Because the other reason is too obvious.

00:28:38.480 I mean, what am I going to say?

00:28:40.080 Anyone in mortal sin can't come to communion.

00:28:44.020 So what do you say, right?

00:28:45.960 So I said, remember, one hour you're to fast before communion.

00:28:50.060 If you haven't done that, this is church law.

00:28:52.460 Please don't come to communion.

00:28:54.480 Well, that helped a little bit, but not really.

00:28:58.660 This is why I love when people would come and kneel and on the tongue receive.

00:29:04.300 You know why?

00:29:05.560 Because non-believers won't do that. 0.99

00:29:07.900 People who don't believe in the real presence of Jesus Christ in the Eucharist have no problem going up and receiving the wafer, they call it the wafer, in their hands.

00:29:18.760 Because they don't believe it's anything.

00:29:20.680 It's a sign, it's a symbol, it's I'm doing this and you're doing this and aren't we nice?

00:29:24.940 It's the church of nice, right?

00:29:26.740 However, if you tell people, no, to receive who is Jesus Christ in this sacrament, you have to kneel in adoration before him.

00:29:38.020 Oh, no, no, no, I'm not going to do that.

00:29:40.620 Well, that prevents a lot of sacrilege.

00:29:43.900 It certainly does.

00:29:45.140 People, if you would tell a Protestant that this is the body, a Protestant or somebody of the Jewish faith or a Muslim or what have you, who would otherwise go to communion at a funeral or something.

00:29:58.480 And I understand them too.

00:29:59.880 They want to participate.

00:30:00.860 Wait, I'm doing it for Fred, who's dead.

00:30:03.740 You know, this whole idea, they don't get it.

00:30:06.500 I understand.

00:30:07.560 But if you would tell them, no, you have to kneel in adoration to receive that.

00:30:12.640 Well, I'm not going to do that.

00:30:13.840 I don't believe that.

00:30:15.160 Good.

00:30:16.220 You shouldn't be receiving.

00:30:17.340 All of those things were eliminated so that people could quite easily, informally receive the host.

00:30:28.040 It's really a hodgepodge.

00:30:29.260 It's really sad.

00:30:30.780 What I'm very happy about, very happy about, is the resurgence of the Latin Mass.

00:30:37.000 I never thought I would see this happening in my life, and it's happening everywhere.

00:30:40.800 I just got a call this morning from someone in Australia.

00:30:45.100 They're just starting another group of Latin Mass there and here and there.

00:30:49.140 It's amazing.

00:30:50.140 It really is amazing.

00:30:52.240 And I'll tell you something else.

00:30:54.220 This is a confession.

00:30:55.080 And I'll bring it up in my next confession.

00:30:56.660 I'll confess this.

00:30:57.520 I'll confess this.

00:30:59.520 And I'll confess it publicly first.

00:31:01.320 It delights me to some degree.

00:31:03.500 It delights me to some degree that people in Rome find this so bothersome.

00:31:09.080 I'm saying to myself, if it bothers these people, this must be good.

00:31:14.240 If you can know a man by his friends, it stands to reason that you can know him by his enemies as well.

00:31:19.880 And if this upsets people, that people are having more devotion to the Blessed Sacrament, and they're getting into the Mass more, and people are converting and coming into the—and it upsets these people, there's something wrong with those people.

00:31:35.280 There's not something wrong with what's happening.

00:31:37.040 Again, no liturgical abuse out here.

00:31:40.880 There is there.

00:31:42.200 Let me just tell—let me give you one example.

00:31:44.420 When I'm talking about a priest as a priest, I went to a parish.

00:31:48.240 I was invited to a parish to speak.

00:31:50.520 I'm there, and communion time comes, and there are more people in the sanctuary than there are in the pews.

00:31:59.000 Everybody's up there, and I said, do you realize that the sacrament—what's the problem?

00:32:05.440 I said, what's the problem?

00:32:08.380 What do you mean, what's the problem?

00:32:10.500 I said, this is the precious blood of Christ that's left over from Mass.

00:32:16.680 You don't dispose of it this way?

00:32:18.640 It's outrageous.

00:32:19.700 He said, you know, I'm going to tell you something, Father.

00:32:21.940 If you don't like the way we do things here at St. Such and Such, you can go elsewhere.

00:32:27.580 I went elsewhere.

00:32:29.620 Him, they made a bishop, right?

00:32:33.360 I mean, these are the things that you're seeing, and I know what's going on.

00:32:37.760 I know what's happening.

00:32:39.580 I know what's happening.

00:32:40.880 And it's to devaluate, lessen, lessen, lessen the idea of Jesus Christ truly present in the sacrament.

00:32:48.400 That's what it is, and that's what it comes down to.

00:32:51.020 And that's the whole problem that we're facing today.

00:32:53.360 People don't want our Lord and Savior not to be in the Blessed Sacrament.

00:32:58.420 They want him there.

00:32:59.560 He said he was going to be there.

00:33:01.360 He is there.

00:33:02.280 They want that.

00:33:03.640 And for some reason, a false idea of ecumenism, Rome and Rome's prelates, many of them, most of them, I would say, don't want that.

00:33:14.900 This is what we're facing.

00:33:18.040 I'm very glad you gave that example, Father, because it actually illustrates what you said.

00:33:23.740 It's hard for the faithful, who actually believe, to think even that a priest exists who doesn't believe, let alone that a bishop doesn't believe.

00:33:35.720 But it is true. 0.90

00:33:37.800 By your actions, you shall know them.

00:33:40.700 When you see a parish that has that, the parade of extraordinary ministers, most of whom are women, go up on the altar and come out in droves.

00:33:52.320 And if you're traditional-minded, you have to play a game to avoid them, to try and get to the priest.

00:33:59.700 It's a horrific game that many people have had to play.

00:34:04.260 But a lot of these things, they speak to an unbelief in the actual presence of Christ in the Holy Eucharist.

00:34:14.060 These stories are horrifying.

00:34:16.560 One of the things that we heard, I heard early on, and this was in the early 90s, that the Newman Center at a particular university was also, after Mass, pouring the precious blood down the sink.

00:34:31.860 There are hard things to hear.

00:34:33.660 Bishop Schneider, when he was talking to me about the result of Holy Communion in the hand,

00:34:40.620 and the fact, therefore, that we are trampling our Lord under our feet.

00:34:47.220 It's very true.

00:34:48.100 If you've ever seen the video with a guy with gloves on, and he puts an unconsecrated host, but a host anyway,

00:34:53.800 into his gloved hand, removes it, and shows you the leftovers, if you will, the particles of the host that are there.

00:35:03.360 Every altar boy knows of that, because if there's an altar boy who holds a patent, usually at every Mass, if it's a large Mass,

00:35:11.340 you're going to have particles of our Lord on the patent.

00:35:15.460 And then, most often, when there's no patent, when there's, you know, communion in the hand, they're swept onto the carpet somewhere.

00:35:24.020 John Henry, look, just what you're saying is very important.

00:35:28.160 It's very important.

00:35:29.280 If, let me just do it this way, if that's the body of Christ, it's very important.

00:35:36.500 If it's not, who cares, okay?

00:35:39.960 But let's go now to the Tridentine Mass.

00:35:44.040 What is the priest after the consecration?

00:35:46.780 What is his stance at the altar?

00:35:49.340 These two fingers don't open up again, because they may have particles of his own host in them.

00:35:57.980 Imagine that?

00:36:00.300 It's only open to give communion to the...

00:36:03.120 He remains like this, as a sign.

00:36:06.020 This is how we respect the body of Christ.

00:36:10.040 We are worried about a particle falling off.

00:36:13.860 The priest takes the patent and cleans the corporal of any particles and puts them in the chalice.

00:36:23.200 It's, you could say it's scrupulous.

00:36:25.820 It's not scrupulous.

00:36:26.920 It, I had a bishop in Mexico.

00:36:30.040 We built a beautiful chapel.

00:36:31.480 He came in to see the chapel.

00:36:32.840 I mean, the chapel was gorgeous, not dead beautiful.

00:36:36.520 Beautiful, beautiful.

00:36:37.540 The best, the best for the Lord.

00:36:39.440 And I mean that.

00:36:40.720 The bishop walked in, the bishop of the diocese and said to me,

00:36:43.780 you have the tabernacle in the center.

00:36:48.140 He said, the new liturgical norms indicate that the tabernacle should be brought off to the side.

00:36:54.360 I said, those are norms for the Basilica of St. Peter's in Rome, for St. Mary Majors in Rome, for huge basilicas, cathedrals, where things are lost.

00:37:07.340 They're not for a chapel, right?

00:37:10.380 He said, well, I still think, I said, I'm going to tell you something, Bishop, with all due respect.

00:37:15.340 And he was my bishop.

00:37:16.520 This made me very popular.

00:37:18.940 You can imagine.

00:37:19.460 I said, look, we here happen to believe that this is the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Jesus Christ in that tabernacle.

00:37:28.360 He stays in the center.

00:37:31.020 If it is not, I don't want him on a side altar.

00:37:35.200 I don't want him anywhere.

00:37:36.900 Out.

00:37:37.740 Get rid of it.

00:37:39.440 It bothers me.

00:37:40.880 Out.

00:37:41.240 But if it happens to be our Lord and Savior, why in the world would I put him on the side so that you could have a chair in the middle?

00:37:50.140 Are you kidding me?

00:37:52.100 Well, that went over like a lead balloon.

00:37:55.400 And it's not that they don't understand.

00:37:57.320 They don't want to hear this.

00:37:58.780 They don't want to hear this.

00:37:59.880 I don't know what they've got in their heads.

00:38:01.700 But I keep remembering St. Athanasius.

00:38:06.300 When I hear Viganot and when I hear Bishop Schneider or Cardinal Burke, when I hear men like that, I remember Athanasius against the world.

00:38:17.380 You know, that was it.

00:38:19.220 We stop and think of England in the time of Henry VIII.

00:38:23.300 It came down to one bishop.

00:38:26.480 Only one was a faithful Catholic.

00:38:29.800 All the rest, sure, we'll go along with it.

00:38:35.060 If it means our head, losing our head, well, who wouldn't want to do that?

00:38:39.100 We'll go along with that.

00:38:40.600 Only one bishop and Thomas More.

00:38:44.880 We're going through the same thing now.

00:38:46.860 We're going through the same thing now.

00:38:48.320 It's a shame that this is happening.

00:38:52.580 But I do believe, and I mean this sincerely, I'm not a Pollyanna.

00:38:57.880 I really believe this sincerely, that all of this is happening for a reason.

00:39:04.000 It's happening for a reason.

00:39:05.560 Do I know what the reason is?

00:39:06.900 No, I don't.

00:39:08.480 That's one of the great things, the great joys that pulls me toward the goal of getting to heaven.

00:39:13.760 I really want to get to heaven.

00:39:15.100 For a lot of reasons.

00:39:17.620 But one of the great reasons is so that I can understand all the things I didn't understand here.

00:39:22.980 I want to know the why.

00:39:24.960 And you know what?

00:39:26.080 I will know the why.

00:39:27.560 I'll know the why of everything.

00:39:29.960 I'm going to enter into heaven.

00:39:32.280 I look at it this way.

00:39:33.140 I'm going to enter into heaven and just go, oh, wow.

00:39:37.280 It's all going to make sense.

00:39:38.820 It's all going to make sense.

00:39:41.400 This is one of the wonderful things about having a clear mind when things begin to make sense.

00:39:49.000 I've talked to many alcoholics and drug addicts who have come out of alcoholism and drug addiction.

00:39:54.780 And almost to a man, to a woman, they say, the most beautiful thing is I've regained clarity.

00:40:02.920 I can see clearly.

00:40:04.740 I understand what I was doing.

00:40:06.620 Well, that clarity is enough for people to change their entire life just to maintain that gift.

00:40:15.400 Imagine that gift magnified infinitely in heaven.

00:40:19.900 That kind of clarity.

00:40:21.520 And all of this is going to make sense.

00:40:23.940 What doesn't make sense today will make sense then.

00:40:27.220 That's what we have to.

00:40:28.240 We have to.

00:40:28.780 We have to.

00:40:29.440 We have to go to that goal.

00:40:30.640 I remember that Bolton Sheen told that story about the matriarch of a family, a very wealthy woman came in to talk to the sister about her son, Reginald.

00:40:44.840 And, you know, when the parents had to go to the teacher conference to see how this kid was doing.

00:40:50.240 And she said to the nun, sister, sister, now, Reginald is a little bit upset.

00:40:56.720 Reginald is a very delicate child.

00:40:59.060 If Reginald misbehaves, sister, don't hit Reginald with the ruler.

00:41:06.360 Hit the child in front of Reginald.

00:41:08.900 Reginald is a smart boy. 0.97

00:41:10.420 He'll understand.

00:41:11.080 Well, anyway, I don't know where that's going.

00:41:16.400 But here, let me just give this, if I may.

00:41:20.100 Chapter 6, St. John's Gospel.

00:41:24.160 Our Lord talks about the institution of the Eucharist.

00:41:28.360 This is the first time he talks about the Eucharist, chapter 6, St. John.

00:41:32.480 And he says the following.

00:41:34.460 Listen how beautiful.

00:41:36.020 I am the bread of life.

00:41:37.620 Whoever eats my body and drinks my blood has life in me, and I live in him.

00:41:44.000 I am the bread of life.

00:41:46.100 The bread come down from heaven.

00:41:48.140 Not like the bread, the manna, that your fathers ate in the desert.

00:41:52.420 Well, they ate and died.

00:41:55.140 Who eats my body and drinks my blood will live forever. 0.87

00:41:59.600 I give my life for you.

00:42:01.640 My body is true food.

00:42:03.960 My blood, true drink.

00:42:05.540 Who eats my body and drinks my blood.

00:42:07.920 And he repeats and repeats and repeats the same thing, right?

00:42:11.680 And at the end, he ends saying, who eats my body and drinks my blood lives in me.

00:42:19.040 Who does not, does not live in me.

00:42:21.600 The Pharisees and Sadducees, other followers that he was, the apostles, the 12 apostles are over here.

00:42:27.660 All of this group of people, hundreds probably, who were following him, said, is this man insane?

00:42:36.580 Listen how deep this.

00:42:39.640 Who can listen to what he's saying and not want to vomit?

00:42:45.420 He's telling us that we have to eat, chew, eat his body and drink his blood?

00:42:51.500 Outrageous. 1.00

00:42:52.820 The man is insane. 1.00

00:42:53.960 He's telling us, that's enough. 1.00

00:42:55.800 We can't stomach this.

00:42:57.180 Cannot stomach it.

00:42:59.020 Then they left him.

00:43:01.000 Now, had our Lord been a politician, he would have said, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:43:05.900 Come back.

00:43:06.600 Come back.

00:43:07.020 Come back.

00:43:07.240 Let me explain.

00:43:08.280 I didn't really mean it that way.

00:43:10.380 He turned to the 12, the apostles, and said, do you want to follow them?

00:43:16.800 You can still catch up.

00:43:18.640 They're right here.

00:43:19.520 And St. Peter answers, Lord, to whom shall we go?

00:43:26.380 Where would we go?

00:43:28.260 You have words of eternal life, and we have come to believe that you are the son of the

00:43:32.880 living God.

00:43:33.720 This is the gospel according to Charles Murr, right?

00:43:36.100 Okay, so if I'm wrong, I'm wrong, right?

00:43:38.560 But Peter was saying, Lord, we haven't an idea.

00:43:42.280 We don't have a clue what you're talking about.

00:43:44.600 Not a clue, but because you say so, we're staying right here.

00:43:51.960 And then right after that, our Lord talks about the betrayal.

00:43:57.020 One of you is to betray me.

00:43:59.320 Okay, good.

00:44:01.420 Now, just take that, and now let's go to the Last Supper, right?

00:44:06.160 There at the Last Supper, our Lord takes bread and says, this is my body.

00:44:12.240 Take and eat.

00:44:12.880 Takes a chalice of wine and says, this is my blood.

00:44:18.740 Take and drink.

00:44:20.260 Can you imagine the relief of St. Peter?

00:44:23.320 Because all this time, he's thinking that he's going to have to literally eat the body

00:44:28.360 of Christ and drink his blood. 0.97

00:44:31.940 And the irony is, the paradox is, yes, he literally is going to do that in a different way.

00:44:37.960 But the relief, Peter must have said, oh, this is what you were talking about.

00:44:43.820 But this was so important that you made it the sine qua non to following you.

00:44:51.280 You either accept it or you don't.

00:44:54.660 And if you don't, you have nothing to do with me.

00:44:56.740 I have nothing to do with you.

00:44:58.700 It's very strong.

00:45:00.060 Very strong, these words.

00:45:01.940 This is what it comes down to.

00:45:03.720 Do you believe or do you not believe?

00:45:06.280 If you don't believe, do what I said to the bishop.

00:45:10.140 The bishop, I don't want it even on the side altar.

00:45:12.360 But if it is the body, blood, soul, and divinity of Christ, the second person of the blessed

00:45:16.880 trinity, why in the world is it not going to be central?

00:45:21.920 Why in the world would we be treating it as nothing?

00:45:26.660 Why in the world would we be desecrating and committing sacrilege with this?

00:45:32.820 Why would we do that when saints and ordinary people died?

00:45:38.040 I could tell you stories of the Mexican Revolution, the Mexican Civil War, the Cristero War in

00:45:42.860 Mexico.

00:45:43.940 Lay people who died defending the Eucharist, taking the Eucharist out of the tabernacle to 1.00

00:45:49.820 defend it from the atrocities of the government soldiers.

00:45:53.940 They died holding on to the Eucharist.

00:45:56.700 Priests who were killed bringing the Eucharist to the sick and dying.

00:46:01.300 These are heroes and heroines of the faith, real people who really believed.

00:46:08.040 We've got to do some real changing here in our thinking and in the way we do things.

00:46:15.280 Because the way I treat things, John Henry, you're a friend of mine.

00:46:21.780 The way I treat you shows how much of a friend you are.

00:46:26.860 If I disrespect you, it shows how much of a friend you are not, or we are not, right?

00:46:33.820 The same is with the Eucharist.

00:46:36.020 The same is with the Eucharist.

00:46:37.700 If it is the body and blood of Jesus Christ really, truly, why would you be treating it

00:46:45.380 in a way that's not worthy of that reality?

00:46:48.840 And that's the difference between the new mass and the ancient mass.

00:46:54.640 The ancient mass knew that reality and promoted it.

00:46:58.280 I don't know what the Novus Ordo, I don't know.

00:47:02.160 I'm 72 years old, and I've seen this for the majority of my life, the Novus Ordo.

00:47:06.860 And I offered that mass as devoutly as I could.

00:47:12.060 I always use the Roman canon.

00:47:14.580 And you're going to think I'm a little bit crazy, but of course you know that already.

00:47:19.080 Otherwise you wouldn't have me on the show.

00:47:20.400 So this is going to sound awful.

00:47:24.300 And I can hear some bishops who are going to be, listen, they're going to cringe with

00:47:28.020 this.

00:47:28.940 When I knew that we had to give communion in the hand, and I had to because it was the

00:47:35.140 law, curiously, John Henry, curiously, we had to give communion in the hand.

00:47:43.140 And in canon law, it was a mortal sin.

00:47:45.940 They hadn't changed canon law yet.

00:47:47.580 It was a mortal sin to touch the host, to touch the host.

00:47:51.460 When I would have to give communion in the hand because it was now the law of the land,

00:47:57.000 in the genuflection before we gave out communion, I asked our Lord's pardon.

00:48:02.040 Every time I genuflected to distribute communion, I said, I'm sorry to have to do this.

00:48:07.580 I'm sorry, forgive me.

00:48:10.060 And because I knew it was going to be mistreated, mishandled, miss everything.

00:48:14.680 But it was out of, I couldn't do anything about it.

00:48:18.300 Couldn't, there was, and there are so many priests who are in the same situation.

00:48:21.860 We know, and we knew that there's something wrong, but we could not act otherwise.

00:48:28.840 We had an idea of obedience, which is, one of the good things that's happening today is

00:48:34.780 we're re-examining that whole idea of obedience.

00:48:37.220 We're re-examining it and coming to some different conclusions, some healthier conclusions.

00:48:45.740 Even for priests with bishops and things.

00:48:48.440 Just a minute, the bishop can't ask me to do things that are wrong.

00:48:52.220 Your love for Jesus in the Holy Eucharist is so evident.

00:48:55.160 And let's pray that it stirs many people, many hearts, to love him more in the Blessed

00:49:04.080 Eucharist.

00:49:04.560 Even in this time, in the darkest of times, as you were mentioning, we'll understand it

00:49:09.000 fully in heaven.

00:49:10.380 But the scriptures hint anyway.

00:49:13.060 I think it's Romans 8.28.

00:49:15.560 But it talks about how all things work for good for those who love him.

00:49:18.740 And so even in these crazy times, this hell that the church is going through will somehow

00:49:26.340 work for good for those who love him.

00:49:29.240 It will.

00:49:29.760 It will.

00:49:30.420 It will.

00:49:30.840 And we have to hold on to that, because this is what Christ himself told us, and he is no

00:49:37.200 liar.

00:49:38.200 He told us, hang on. 0.99

00:49:41.620 Make it to the end.

00:49:43.540 Hang on.

00:49:44.500 And this is what we do.

00:49:45.560 And you know, for those who are old, old like I am, thank God that you knew the church

00:49:52.940 before.

00:49:54.200 Thank God that you knew the church before, before 1965.

00:49:58.440 Thank God you did.

00:49:59.620 You had an experience of something marvelous.

00:50:02.940 Marvelous.

00:50:03.820 It can only get better.

00:50:04.980 I'll tell you, this is the thing, the thing with the state of the church today, it can only

00:50:10.040 get better.

00:50:11.240 God bless you, Father.

00:50:12.040 Thank you.

00:50:12.900 Thank you, John Henry.

00:50:14.100 God bless all of you.

00:50:15.560 We'll see you next time.

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The John-Henry Westen Show - September 06, 2022

The second Eucharistic prayer in the Novus Ordo Mass was hastily rewritten at a restaurant

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