The John-Henry Westen Show - They want us to HATE Iran - Jason Jones EXPOSES their lies

00:00:00.000 I used to say anti-Semitism used to mean you hate Jews,

00:00:05.000 but now it means you refuse to hate Arabs.

00:00:09.500 Hello, my friends.

00:00:10.400 I've been waiting to do this interview for a long time,

00:00:12.840 but this fellow is really hard to get a hold of.

00:00:15.080 Jason Jones has been all over the place.

00:00:18.580 He keeps running back and forth to the Holy Land

00:00:21.240 to help out there because you know

00:00:22.900 he runs Vulnerable People Project

00:00:24.700 and they do all sorts of amazing work

00:00:26.400 helping the poor and the vulnerable,

00:00:28.620 especially in times of war.

00:00:29.920 he's rescued people out of there. We've helped him do that thanks to your generous donations.

00:00:35.040 Now look, the war in Iran has obviously a lot going on with it. And there's no better person 1.00

00:00:42.000 to speak to about it than Jason Jones, because not only has he been there, done that, but people

00:00:50.440 right now are talking about, oh, you know, Iran's the worst place on earth. There's nothing worse, 1.00

00:00:56.000 the persecution against women, against Jews, against Catholics and Christians. It's the most

00:01:01.980 devastating thing. That's the number one country on earth we have to go after. And Jason's the one

00:01:08.100 who did the movie. Do you remember the stoning of Soraya M? It was a movie about persecution of

00:01:14.820 women in Iran. So you're going to want to stay tuned for this conversation. Jason, God bless

00:01:20.460 you, my friend. Good to see you, brother. For now on, I'm going to demand whoever interviews me is

00:01:25.060 in a black tie or I am not going but I get to come like this but but the host has to be in a black

00:01:30.360 tie let's begin as we always do son of the cross name of the father and of the son and of the holy

00:01:36.720 ghost amen Jason uh the U.S. is in a strange place right now because there are fights among

00:01:44.720 the best people uh we just saw Kerry Prejean Bowler great catholic a new catholic even

00:01:52.440 kicked off Trump's Religious Freedom Commission and so Catholic against Catholic over what's

00:01:59.540 going on in Iran. Unpack a little bit of this for us. Where are you coming from?

00:02:04.520 First of all, I want to thank you and I want to thank LifeSite News because

00:02:08.320 you have been like the Calvary for me time and time and time again. And you are a non-profit

00:02:14.280 organization so that you would share your donors with our organization. And you were responsible

00:02:21.340 for helping us evacuate thousands of young girls from Ukraine when that war started.

00:02:26.660 You were foundational to our Coal for Christmas campaign to provide coal for heat and food

00:02:32.320 in Afghanistan in the wake of the U.S. withdrawal to the widows and orphans of our allies who

00:02:36.120 were killed in action in the small Christian community there.

00:02:38.940 Everywhere we work in the world, you show, you actually, your team reaches out to us

00:02:44.360 and says, we'd like to help you.

00:02:46.640 And so I couldn't thank you more.

00:02:48.640 You know, when you look at Carrie Prejean-Bowler, when I started, you know, on October 7th, the very first thing I did, I was furious.

00:02:58.680 You know, when you see this horrible attack of these peace activists, it was just, I was enraged.

00:03:04.980 And the first thing I did is I knew of a small Jewish community in Africa that was really vulnerable.

00:03:11.580 We'd been trying to get other Jewish organizations that actually had more funding than us to provide security for them

00:03:16.160 because we're already providing security for Catholic churches in this area.

00:03:20.060 But on October 7th, without a budget for it,

00:03:22.240 we went ahead and not only provided security,

00:03:24.800 put in solar so we could put in cameras,

00:03:26.960 and then we even drilled wells so the women didn't have to walk 1.00

00:03:30.280 to the river for water, which was exposing them to danger.

00:03:34.040 And that's where it began.

00:03:36.100 And I was really hopeful that the IDF would go in there and root out Hamas.

00:03:41.640 But by October 18th, after the war started,

00:03:44.960 It was already obvious that that's not what was going to happen.

00:03:49.140 It was within two weeks of October 7th that the oldest continuous use church in the world,

00:03:55.080 St. Porforius, was attacked.

00:03:58.900 And then within weeks after that, two Catholic women were shot by snipers, IDF snipers.

00:04:05.440 Water towers at the churches were shot by snipers so that the water was empty.

00:04:09.720 So we saw really a relentless campaign event, the cleansing.

00:04:12.900 I'm always celebrated for my work.

00:04:14.960 You know, it's not, I've been in the pro-life movement since the late 80s.

00:04:18.960 I'm used to being hated for defending the vulnerable, and I'm not uncomfortable with that.

00:04:24.960 But I was, for many years, celebrated for what we were doing in Afghanistan and Sudan and Ukraine.

00:04:30.960 So I was really naive to how quickly and violently that my organization was attacked.

00:04:36.960 For feeding Christians, for evacuating wounded pregnant women, I was being criticized.

00:04:41.960 It was a very lonely place. And for a while, I felt like my only ally was you, was LifeSite.

00:04:48.660 When you see someone like Carrie Prejean Bowler in such a prestigious position,

00:04:54.220 basically throw away her career and leverage her position of influence for the vulnerable, 0.97

00:05:02.480 I couldn't be more grateful. Because at the Vulnerable People Project, when I founded it

00:05:06.660 23 years ago, it was really not to do relief efforts, but to run influence campaigns to

00:05:14.460 defend the vulnerable from violence by promoting human dignity and inspiring solidarity.

00:05:18.800 That's what we do.

00:05:20.500 And Carrie Prejean Bowler has been key to waking up so many people.

00:05:25.760 She's joyful.

00:05:26.940 She's brave.

00:05:28.540 She's kind.

00:05:29.760 She's unflinching.

00:05:30.820 and really the hard part for me is to see our bishops silent to seeing this young Catholic

00:05:39.960 woman being attacked and her husband, who is an NFL football player, is actually in our CIA right

00:05:45.920 now. I can't imagine if my wife was being attacked like this and I saw bishops stabbing her in the

00:05:52.860 back, let alone not defending her, but stabbing her in the back, I'd become Greek Orthodox. I

00:05:58.460 I would hit the brakes, it's quite a scandal.

00:06:01.580 And it's a scandal to everyone under 25

00:06:04.360 because if you look at the polling,

00:06:06.240 everyone under 25, they're saying, 0.54

00:06:07.700 oh, these kids are brainwashed. 0.97

00:06:08.960 No, you're brainwashed. 0.82

00:06:10.380 You're watching Fox, CNN, or MSNBC.

00:06:13.140 These kids are seeing a live stream genocide

00:06:16.860 for two years on their phone.

00:06:18.740 So Kerry is so brave, but it is so sorrowful.

00:06:22.900 And I call this the Palestinian abuse crisis.

00:06:26.820 And I think there is gonna come a day in this country

00:06:29.100 and in the church where those bishops and those cardinals

00:06:32.800 that were silent as the genocide was taking place,

00:06:36.100 as the descendants of the apostles' families were being,

00:06:39.540 it's called ecclesiacide, as our church is being cleansed.

00:06:44.040 And there is a settlement called Shtema

00:06:46.880 that was just approved in the West Bank

00:06:50.100 that would end the Christian communities 1.00

00:06:53.440 in Bethlehem in the shepherd's field.

00:06:57.420 This is a total ecclesiocide, silence from our bishops.

00:07:00.760 Bishop Barron has never said one thing

00:07:02.840 in defense of the Christians and gods in the West Bank.

00:07:05.000 Same with Dolan, but the USCCB has time

00:07:08.280 to attack Kerry Prejean,

00:07:10.580 but they have never found the time to open their mouth.

00:07:14.000 Yet Pope Leo has been brave.

00:07:16.960 Look and also look to Cardinal Pizzaballa,

00:07:20.560 who's living in the midst of it all,

00:07:23.360 but has been a courageous witness for these communities.

00:07:25.580 So I'm sorry I'm talking so much,

00:07:26.800 but I couldn't be more grateful.

00:07:29.320 I feel like the Calvary has arrived.

00:07:32.060 You know, we're gonna be a Catholics for Catholics event.

00:07:35.080 Catholics for Catholics has been great.

00:07:36.900 Catholic Vote, through their news reporting,

00:07:39.380 has been wonderful.

00:07:40.180 LifeSite News was the first ones there with us.

00:07:43.160 But now, I don't know how you feel,

00:07:45.000 but I used to get ratioed and attacked by everyone.

00:07:47.900 And now when people attack me,

00:07:49.660 I watch as everyone attacks them, like it's flipped.

00:07:53.160 So, and it's flipped because it doesn't take courage for me.

00:07:58.160 I run the Vulnerable People Project.

00:08:00.640 It's my job.

00:08:02.260 If I'm not gonna do it my job,

00:08:04.420 I should find something else to do.

00:08:06.260 Carrie Prejean didn't have to do that. 1.00

00:08:08.780 And so I'm really grateful.

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00:08:47.540 So Carrie told me the other day, she feels like she is a sheep being attacked by wolves and the shepherds are running away.

00:09:00.120 She was so grateful to see Bishop Strickland as one of the only voices in the bishopric throughout the world stick up for her.

00:09:08.680 she was stunned at the silence of the bishops more so i would say even than she was stunned

00:09:15.560 that vance uh would and rubio wouldn't say anything in her defense the other way perhaps

00:09:22.140 but you know that was so stunning to her and your point about her husband i think she sees

00:09:28.620 and he sees they're not converting to a kind of a church that is about that they're converting to

00:09:37.760 a church with a traditional belief and that follows. The bishops of the Holy Land have been

00:09:43.320 singing this song for decades, begging their brother bishops in the West to please speak out

00:09:50.980 against the persecution coming from Israel. And it's, why is this so unbluyel? That tweet that

00:09:57.980 you're, excuse me, the document you were referring to from Cardinal Pitzabala, I'll pull it up because

00:10:03.500 the wording is so strong that it's worth talking about his words. And this is the cardinal

00:10:10.500 archbishop of Jerusalem. And our bishops refuse to speak when their brother bishop,

00:10:20.200 the cardinal over there says this. This is unreal. There are still 2 million displaced people

00:10:29.640 deprived of everything 80 of the strip that's the gaza strip is still destroyed and no construction

00:10:37.000 has begun people are literally living in the sewers and the images cannot convey the smells

00:10:44.740 someone who's been in a lot of war zones the smells are what people can't comprehend the smell

00:10:50.760 of burning human flesh the smell of death and decay it's horrible and you have to imagine

00:10:57.200 And when I was in Lahaina after the fire, I was sick for months.

00:11:02.580 And I made the mistake of camping in Lahaina so I didn't take a hotel from a local.

00:11:07.580 That was not bright.

00:11:09.060 When I was in Iraq with the Peshmerga, as they were liberating villages,

00:11:12.800 they couldn't remove the burning bodies from the rubble because ISIS booby-trapped the rubble. 1.00

00:11:18.400 And so everywhere you would go was the smell of burning human flesh.

00:11:21.720 And Cardinal Bitsabala has been to Gaza.

00:11:24.360 He knows what he's talking about.

00:11:25.620 He has empathy.

00:11:26.920 These are his flock, he loves them.

00:11:29.440 And I think it's just quite sorrowful

00:11:31.220 how loveless we have been.

00:11:33.560 But this isn't really new

00:11:34.600 and I want to feel sorry for myself.

00:11:36.600 I look at someone like Franz Jägerstatter

00:11:38.360 who was an Austrian farmer

00:11:40.280 who refused to say the loyalty oath to Hitler.

00:11:44.120 His priest told him, just say the oath.

00:11:46.280 His bishop told him, just say the oath.

00:11:49.220 And he refused to say that oath.

00:11:50.900 There's a beautiful film called A Hidden Life

00:11:52.880 by Terrence Malick that shows his story.

00:11:55.180 why do we know the name Maximilian Kolbe we know his name because what he did was exceptional

00:12:01.740 with dying in a starvation bunker in Auschwitz so when you look at someone like Carrie Prejean

00:12:08.420 Bowler what it was a Mark Twain said history doesn't repeat itself but it rhymes she rhymes

00:12:14.120 with father Jerzy Popiescu she rhymes with Maximilian Kolbe she rhymes with um Franz

00:12:23.360 Jager's daughter. So this is just how it usually is. Look at our Lord being crucified. Everyone was

00:12:30.380 gone, and there was St. John. I have a theory on why John was the only apostle that didn't die

00:12:36.880 a violent death, because he was already crucified with our Lord. He was there. They left. What's

00:12:45.480 worse, being nailed to a cross or seeing your Lord nailed to a cross? And so Carrie's being

00:12:50.800 nailed to the cross i think we should all be you know the philosopher the anthropologist renee

00:12:56.380 gerard said when you stand with the vulnerable you become as vulnerable as they are so the

00:13:01.200 palestinians are the most calumniated community on earth you know you can have a u.s congressman 0.64

00:13:06.880 congressman fine he's shown a picture it's on film of a dead palestinian child he goes i love

00:13:12.060 that picture can you bring me more of those and there's no censor for him but but all and i used

00:13:18.840 to say anti-Semitism used to mean you hate Jews, but now it means you refuse to hate Arabs.

00:13:26.700 You know, it meant you dehumanize Jews. Now it's, you're not going to dehumanize Arabs. What are

00:13:31.460 you, anti-Semite? You know, it used to mean you might even want to, Jew hatred could lead to you 0.99

00:13:36.020 want to kill Jews. Now it's like, what, you're upset by the indiscriminate slaughter of Iranian 1.00

00:13:40.800 children? What are you, an anti-Semite? This is what they mean. And so Kerry's being crucified. 0.58

00:13:47.500 Okay.

00:13:48.760 I mean, that's the vocation of the Christian.

00:13:50.860 Those of us who haven't fled the Palestinians, like John, it's just God's grace.

00:13:55.860 It's sorrowful to me, and it's a mystery to me, to see why someone like Father Mike Schmitz,

00:14:02.600 who's actually apologized for Israel's crimes early on and has been silent ever since, Bishop Aaron, is very clever.

00:14:11.780 He speaks up on the Somalian crisis in Minnesota, just on cue.

00:14:17.660 Starts talking about Nigeria when the whole world is paying attention to Gaza.

00:14:21.840 Now, I'm in Nigeria.

00:14:22.940 I've been there for a long time.

00:14:24.020 We're not going anywhere.

00:14:25.540 But is he still talking about Nigeria or was that just a distraction?

00:14:29.200 And where's Dolan?

00:14:30.060 Cardinal Dolan.

00:14:31.440 Cardinal Dolan has also never said a word about Jimmy Lai.

00:14:35.100 He's never said a word about our bishops that have been disappeared from China.

00:14:38.620 They're not talking about how in India,

00:14:41.300 the Hinduva, the nationalists,

00:14:43.240 are waging a violent war of ecclesiastide

00:14:45.440 against Christian communities,

00:14:47.000 some of them amongst first century Christian communities

00:14:49.680 that have been there since the first century.

00:14:52.960 So it's as if we're not allowed to talk

00:14:54.820 in defense of the vulnerable

00:14:55.880 when there's a powerful adversary,

00:14:58.160 whether it be India, Turkey, China, or Israel.

00:15:02.620 But really that's, at VPP, we just say,

00:15:05.300 hey, if no one else is gonna speak up,

00:15:07.580 then I guess we got to do it.

00:15:08.820 But boy, boy, boy, would I rather Cardinal Dolan do it.

00:15:13.040 Would I rather Mike Schmidt's father, Mike, Mike do it?

00:15:16.860 You know, how would I love that Bishop Barron

00:15:19.900 did a whole series on the living stones

00:15:23.020 of the first century church?

00:15:24.240 How interesting would that be, Bishop Barron?

00:15:26.540 They have been there, they fixed their nets.

00:15:28.640 The first, Arabic is in the gospel.

00:15:30.840 Arabic is in the book of Acts.

00:15:33.260 The second tribe to convert to Christianity 0.83

00:15:35.420 in the second century were Arabs.

00:15:37.360 The Palestinians are the descendants of the people 0.96

00:15:39.380 that lived there at the time of Christ.

00:15:41.420 Wouldn't it be interesting for you to tell their story,

00:15:44.760 to tell a story on the ethnic cleansing

00:15:46.900 of the oldest Christian community in the world?

00:15:48.540 But you're not gonna do it because you lack the courage,

00:15:51.900 because there will be consequences.

00:15:54.920 So you can speak against Boko Haram

00:15:57.100 because Boko Haram isn't active in media.

00:16:01.740 They're not gonna censor you.

00:16:03.960 They're not gonna de-platform you.

00:16:05.520 and this is what's quite frustrating let's talk about iran because about iran okay there are a

00:16:14.440 lot of people who are going to say right after that okay whoa whoa whoa iran is the number one

00:16:19.600 place to attack don't don't don't tell me what are we doing when we're attacking iran we're finally

00:16:26.560 freeing the women the jews the christians the catholics over there they're getting persecuted

00:16:31.680 over there isn't this the best thing we can do and why are you fighting it well now that i know

00:16:36.900 that's what we're doing i'm excited like i just didn't know that's what we were doing you know

00:16:41.040 we just did a little micro i have camera crews right now running around tel aviv running around

00:16:45.400 the west bank and um in tehran and if you go to my sub stack or if you go to vulnerable people

00:16:52.640 project.com you can see a little documentary we did just last week we shot it just last week

00:16:57.780 in Tehran of the Jewish community.

00:17:00.020 And you can hear what the Jewish community

00:17:01.640 in Iran has to say for themselves.

00:17:03.520 I was just like most people,

00:17:05.060 and I've been involved in the Middle East in 25 years.

00:17:07.060 It's sort of layers of bigotry or prejudice

00:17:09.360 fall off with each new project that I have.

00:17:13.020 But I've known about Iran for a long time.

00:17:15.340 In college, I had a lot of Iranian friends.

00:17:17.980 I had the privilege of being an associate producer

00:17:19.620 on the Stoning of Sarayim.

00:17:20.980 That's not a big role in the film,

00:17:22.320 but my role was crucial,

00:17:24.620 and my role was actually relating

00:17:26.300 with the Persian community, Iranian community.

00:17:29.000 That was my role in that film.

00:17:31.220 And I was involved in the Green Revolution

00:17:34.520 and working with activists on the ground

00:17:36.920 during the Green Revolution.

00:17:38.780 Iran is under an occupied military.

00:17:41.420 I mean, the regime is so different from the people.

00:17:44.980 The Iranian people are quite wonderful.

00:17:47.460 And I would really like to see them liberated

00:17:49.620 from the yoke of this alien, perverse regime.

00:17:52.460 Women, you know, Iran, just Google Iran, 1.00

00:17:55.200 tehran 1967 and and look at what how the women dressed so the idea that this is something that 0.96

00:18:02.840 is fundamentally inescapably a part of islamic society or muslim society is just silly um but 1.00

00:18:10.200 you have this radical regime that's in power and i just think this war has if anything entrenched

00:18:16.500 them if and uh and if if the regime is if there if the regime is destroyed what we are going to

00:18:24.980 see is sectarianism. We are going to see Iran become a failed state. You're not going to see 0.94

00:18:33.900 a free and prosperous Iran. And I'm going to tell you why that's not the goal. That is not

00:18:38.200 the goal. That wasn't the goal in Iraq. That wasn't the goal in Afghanistan. That wasn't the

00:18:43.780 goal in Syria. That wasn't the goal in Yemen. Because if it was the goal, we would still be 0.86

00:18:49.200 talking about it and maybe pursuing that goal. We removed Gaddafi to save the women. And what

00:18:55.860 happened? Open air slave markets. We liberated Iraq. We were so proud of ourselves. What happened?

00:19:03.480 Yazidis, I don't want to say, you know, we all know what happened to these Yazidi girls. By the 1.00

00:19:08.380 way, I still work with them. I still work with the Yazidi community. There are 100,000 internally

00:19:12.940 displaced Iraqis in Iraqi Kurdistan now, Yazidis and others that have been displaced and in camps

00:19:19.040 for a decade because we were there to liberate them i was involved in the evacuating and caring

00:19:25.440 of american siv holders special immigrant visa holders that served our country that were promised

00:19:30.140 a visa but also democracy activists women rights activists i'll tell you a funny story we evacuated

00:19:36.340 them from afghanistan i still have safe houses in central asia where we have these people where

00:19:41.580 where are these people that care about women so much i mean what about afghanistan why don't you

00:19:45.700 help us. We need some help. They don't care about the women of Iran. And then when we destroy Iran, 0.96

00:19:51.600 they're going to go, well, we bombed them. They had every chance in the world to, oh, you think

00:19:56.340 if someone flattened LA, flattened Chicago, flattened Houston, destroyed our farms, destroyed

00:20:04.960 our energy infrastructure, that that would just blossom a utopian society here? No, this is not

00:20:12.040 how it works. Killing and destroying is not creative. We could have thoughtfully worked

00:20:18.300 with the Iranian people over the past 47 years to get a good regime. The goal isn't to bless the 0.99

00:20:25.640 people of Iran with a good government because a good government, a democratic government that's

00:20:30.540 allied with the West or can relate to the West, work with the West, is the greatest threat to 0.96

00:20:35.780 Israel. They don't want an Iran with rockets, planes. Why? Because no one wants to hear this

00:20:42.680 or say it. We all know it now. The greater Israel project. Mike Huckabee himself basically said,

00:20:49.260 Israel has the right to the entire Middle East. Well, Iran wouldn't let that happen. 0.96

00:20:54.200 Not a democratic Iran, not a capitalist Iran, not an authoritarian Iran allied with the West,

00:21:00.980 not an authoritarian Iran allied with China or Russia no Iran would allow that to happen

00:21:08.040 but what so what is Israel's goal a failed state and that's what will happen that's what will

00:21:14.880 happen there will be a failed state and all the people that cared so much we know where to be

00:21:20.180 found but guess where you're going to see Jason and VPP you're going to see me traipsing around

00:21:24.900 Iran and they're not going to be anywhere to be found because they don't care about those women 1.00

00:21:31.000 It's just not that easy.

00:21:32.380 Cheering on a war on social media doesn't free people.

00:21:36.200 It's not how order works.

00:21:38.300 The Iranians actually have a saying, which I don't like.

00:21:40.680 It's a little too much for me.

00:21:42.940 But it's like better 100 years of tyranny than one year of war.

00:21:49.060 So we're Anglos.

00:21:50.560 We're like, no, war, freedom.

00:21:54.420 But the point to that is the devastation and destruction to the human family from war

00:21:59.760 if you put it on a scale with 100 years of tyranny the balance might be it might be more

00:22:07.520 balanced than we as anglo-americans um sort of even though we're catholic we live in the society

00:22:15.880 of the glorious revolution in the amer in the english bill of rights and the magna carta and

00:22:21.060 our declaration of independence and this is who we are but i think it's an instructive point

00:22:25.380 that war is absolutely devastating yeah one of the points uh when we spoke earlier you made

00:22:33.120 do the comparison for us about saudi arabia everything you can say about iran you can say

00:22:38.920 about saudi arabia actually no it's worse there's a thriving jewish indigenous community they've 1.00

00:22:44.280 been there since thousands of years right in iran they think of themselves as iranian

00:22:50.960 yeah they're jews they're iranian um for thousands yeah since some babylon since they were brought

00:22:59.100 there actually so there's a million christians now is it an anglo-american constitutional republic

00:23:10.600 with our customs our culture no but uh it's they're there imagine

00:23:17.220 can i find a jewish community in saudi arabia can i uh where the you know filipino nuns are

00:23:26.040 getting i mean filipino workers are getting executed for the rosary you know or for talking

00:23:32.540 about their faith with somebody inappropriately in saudi arabia some filipino worker you know

00:23:36.920 when i go to certain gulf states there's you know i there's there's gulf states that i like

00:23:40.780 um when i go to cutter which we're told is villainous and i see how i pay attention i'm

00:23:47.080 from hawaii so i look like this but i think i'm filipino you know so i got my kids are like

00:23:51.900 jalapenos haole filipino and a little filipino and chinese my kids are chinese filipino chinese me

00:23:57.360 so when i go to mass like when i'm in dubai and i see how or in saudi arabia or kuwait and you see

00:24:05.060 how the um the filipino workers are treated or how they're rushed in a rush off of cattle cars

00:24:11.200 and back onto the cattle cars after mass like it's infuriating you don't see that in iraq

00:24:15.580 in fact when i've met filipino workers and as i travel around the middle east

00:24:20.140 the countries that they prefer most being in are the countries that we were told are the most

00:24:26.580 hostile to hostile to our faith those now the one exception is cutter you go to cutter

00:24:30.820 and you just see the christian workers kind of living a much more free and happy and open life

00:24:38.340 um but of course we're told one is our great ally and cutter sort of like our mistress like we love

00:24:45.260 her you know and we don't and we hide her and we ask her to do really bad things then yell at her 0.98

00:24:50.720 for doing those things this is the relationship we've had with cutter but um yeah it's it's most

00:24:56.600 people and i would say myself because i'm always surprised you know i was i wrote an article called

00:25:01.140 help i'm an anti-palestinian bigot and i wrote this article after going to egypt to evacuate

00:25:06.800 palestinians from gaza wounded women and children christians but muslims elderly and then we went 0.99

00:25:12.880 to cairo and i set up a clan and you can see the interviews they're very powerful at vulnerable

00:25:17.100 people project.com we did clandestine we set up a clandestine studio i had to hide from the

00:25:21.860 egyptian authorities because egypt is not the ally of the palestinian people they don't want

00:25:26.220 upset Israel so here we are hiring from the you know Egyptian authorities we went to the worst 0.99

00:25:32.140 neighborhood we created a studio like in a dilapidated old building it's the loudest it

00:25:38.860 was just really hard to shoot there I got so angry I went out into the neighborhood was yelling at an

00:25:43.380 entire neighborhood in Cairo to shush who are you what are you doing in our neighborhood but as I

00:25:47.900 was interviewing the Palestinians and I realized how well educated they are Palestinian women are 1.00

00:25:52.720 have a higher rate of graduate education than Israeli women.

00:25:58.120 In the Middle East, the Palestinians are known

00:25:59.820 as the most well-educated community in the Middle East.

00:26:03.700 But that's not what we're told. 0.99

00:26:05.160 We can see major influencers on the right saying they're dumb, 1.00

00:26:07.780 they have low IQs, horrible things. 1.00

00:26:10.020 Things that would come out of Hitler's mouth. 0.98

00:26:13.720 And I was listening to my internal dialogue.

00:26:17.900 Like, wow, this...

00:26:19.900 I was interviewing a Muslim older couple, and the man was talking about how when

00:26:24.560 the woman was saying, when my last kid went to college, went out of the house,

00:26:30.100 my husband told me to go back and get my PhD.

00:26:34.060 And in my head, I was like, Muslims don't, 1.00

00:26:38.420 men don't wanna have their wives to get educated. 1.00

00:26:41.940 Palestinian Muslims, especially, would never. 1.00

00:26:44.340 And but woman after woman after woman I interviewed from Gaza had graduate degrees.

00:26:49.580 And I say this, you know, when Joe Biden said

00:26:53.360 about Barack Obama, he was so clean and articulate

00:26:56.340 for a black man, I mean, you know, epic.

00:26:59.980 I was like, I heard my internal, I was like,

00:27:02.480 I sound like Joe Biden inside my head.

00:27:04.880 Oh, they're not anti-Semitic.

00:27:06.480 They're so well-educated, you know, they're so beautiful.

00:27:10.640 I was like, ah, and I went home, I went to my hotel

00:27:14.460 and I sat there and I assessed and I said this,

00:27:19.080 and I've said this in several interviews, this is true.

00:27:21.960 We had a lot of Palestinians move into my neighborhood.

00:27:25.060 My mother lived in the southwest suburbs of Chicago

00:27:28.080 when I was like junior, senior, sophomore, junior year.

00:27:31.820 And we had our local burrito shop

00:27:34.280 and one of my brothers came running in

00:27:36.000 and he's like, the Palestinians are our burrito shop. 0.92

00:27:38.980 And I was so angry, like the Palestinians, 1.00

00:27:41.220 I don't know, I don't even know what a Palestinian was, 0.64

00:27:43.660 but whatever they are, they should be in my burrito shop

00:27:46.080 because I've seen a lot of Chuck Norris movies

00:27:48.420 and they're always the bad guys.

00:27:49.640 And now the bad guys from the Chuck Norris movies

00:27:51.540 are at my burrito shop.

00:27:53.400 So I was just, they're the most calumniated people.

00:27:56.480 And when you meet the Palestinian Christians, 0.96

00:27:58.860 they're striking like all the first century

00:28:00.700 Christian communities, whether they be in India, Ethiopia,

00:28:04.720 Egypt, Syria, Iraq, Lebanon, there's something different.

00:28:10.160 And I meditated on what is the difference.

00:28:12.920 I know what it is.

00:28:14.480 Grace builds upon our nature.

00:28:18.420 It builds upon your nature as a person.

00:28:21.140 Grace builds upon your family.

00:28:23.880 Grace builds upon our nation.

00:28:26.240 These communities, God's grace has been working on them since the incarnation.

00:28:35.040 I want to show you this.

00:28:37.020 On Tucker, this Christian Catholic blew him away by the forgiveness he had for the Israelis who were persecuting them. 0.93

00:28:47.000 his mom was shot as they were playing as children and he still forgives him now his mom survived

00:28:56.860 thanks be to god but he prays for the persecutors the ones who shot his mom tucker's blown away

00:29:02.340 so let's just play that clip for a second in 1990 we watch settlers come and go there was an

00:29:10.380 Israeli army vehicle that stopped. And we saw, I was 10 at that time. I saw an Israeli soldier

00:29:18.320 stepping out of the vehicle, pointing a rifle at us, and he starts shooting at us.

00:29:22.760 At you?

00:29:23.940 We were a bunch of kids. I mean, my siblings, my mother was there, and some of my cousins.

00:29:29.380 He starts shooting live ammunition at us. And then my mother rushed us all into the door.

00:29:36.500 She was the last one to get in.

00:29:38.720 She caught a bullet in the back.

00:29:40.240 Your mother?

00:29:40.920 Yes, my own mother, who loves the Lord and he loves Jesus.

00:29:45.700 And exit one, she dropped.

00:29:47.360 Come on.

00:29:47.760 She dropped on the floor, pool of blood. 0.98

00:29:50.820 I heard to the back door, called my dad, my uncle, who was a physician, put pressure on the wound, took her to the hospital.

00:30:00.820 You saw this happen?

00:30:02.260 In front of my eyes.

00:30:03.840 my own mother. I'm sorry, I should say we've been talking off camera before we started this

00:30:08.500 interview, and I didn't know the story. It's not in my interview notes, and I detected no

00:30:15.040 bitterness whatsoever in anything that you said. I don't know how. Okay. Sorry, so you're just

00:30:19.540 shocking me. I didn't expect to hear that. Palestinian Christians take the Sermon of the 1.00

00:30:25.800 Mount very seriously. Apparently. When Jesus comes and he elevates our thinking, when he

00:30:32.820 elevates our outlook on life, when he takes morality to a whole new standard, when he said,

00:30:41.440 you have heard, do not kill. But I tell you, if you look at your brother and you call him

00:30:46.380 Raka, Aramaic word for fool or stupid, you just have committed the murder. And when he said, 1.00

00:30:54.060 and remember the context, Jesus was talking to a Jewish audience who were under ruthless

00:30:59.460 Roman occupation. They were persecuted. They were discriminated against. It was very brutal to live

00:31:07.840 under the Roman occupation. But Jesus is telling his followers, love your enemies. Pray for those

00:31:14.120 who persecute you. This is something that we have grown up understanding the very essence

00:31:21.900 and the meaning of this Sermon of the Mount. So now I have this for you. Because you're

00:31:29.100 speaking out now because you dare to point out the atrocities of Israel at a time when, yes,

00:31:36.800 there is antisemitism going on. We see it from all sorts of folks. Yes, that's true. But you're

00:31:43.700 going to be called an antisemite because you're daring to stand with the vulnerable. You're

00:31:49.740 daring to repeat the calls of Cardinal Pizzaballa and all of the Catholic leaders in the Holy Land

00:31:57.460 for decades now how do you respond yourself to the charge of anti-semitism well you know

00:32:05.160 first of all this all began for me when i was 17 years old and my high school girlfriend was

00:32:13.620 forced by her father to have an abortion while i was in basic training that was my sort of inciting

00:32:19.260 incident to the fragility of life and how children are exposed to violence and that's where our

00:32:25.540 friendship began with our shared commitment in the 90s when we first met to protecting the

00:32:30.760 child and the woman from violence. I was a soldier at the time. I was in basic training when this

00:32:36.440 happened. And that's when my activism started. But then as a young infantryman on deployment,

00:32:41.440 I began to see that they're just, I wanted to order my life to get between the vulnerable and

00:32:47.560 the violent and stand with fathers right away. Because I became a father at 18 and I had two

00:32:51.220 children by 19 here I'm an infantryman my mother had me when she was 17 16.

00:32:56.700 So I knew it was like to be raised by a teenager and I just but then as a soldier

00:33:01.180 I realized how privileged I was as an American and I wanted to leverage that

00:33:04.360 privilege to make myself as influential as possible as useful as possible to stand

00:33:09.500 with fathers that didn't have these opportunities that I'm gonna have is a

00:33:12.400 man of my life strange when I look back to think I had this vision is a 17 year

00:33:16.720 old infantryman but then when I got out of the army and I went to the University

00:33:20.860 of Hawaii I had my little babies my kids are you know from Hawaii they're hapahaolis and but my

00:33:27.040 professors didn't know this and I had blonde hair and blue eyes and they didn't know I was born to

00:33:31.400 a teen mother raised in you know Chicago they just assumed here this is blonde kid at the 0.99

00:33:37.080 University of Hawaii must be some trust fund baby and they would call me a racist for being pro-life

00:33:42.280 and that was the biggest charge I'm like wait what I make brown babies I have two already and 0.99

00:33:47.420 I'm only 21.

00:33:48.840 It was very strange.

00:33:50.680 And when I really saw the vision for this organization,

00:33:54.140 and our organization's actually,

00:33:55.180 the name is HERO,

00:33:56.000 the Human Rights Education Elite Organization.

00:33:57.640 We have two programs,

00:33:58.980 Vulnerable People Project and Movie to Movement,

00:34:01.700 but the same mission to defend the vulnerable from violence

00:34:04.260 by promoting human dignity and inspiring solidarity.

00:34:07.020 When I had the idea for this,

00:34:08.780 it was to stand with those that no one will stand with,

00:34:11.540 knowing that you'll be calumniated for doing it.

00:34:13.840 And I thought,

00:34:14.920 people say the worst things about me

00:34:17.000 because I'm fighting abortion.

00:34:18.700 So I've been through this, but guess what then?

00:34:21.020 I was just in a book that 50 pro-life heroes

00:34:25.280 in world history, Mother Teresa, Ronald Reagan,

00:34:28.680 Pope John Paul II, and bang, there's Jason Jones.

00:34:31.380 What in the world am I doing in that book?

00:34:33.540 Aren't I the horrible human that I was being called

00:34:36.080 by my leftist professors as a college student

00:34:38.640 in the early 90s?

00:34:40.120 So I don't care, like I just don't care.

00:34:43.460 I always tell my kids, it's better to be thought to be hateful

00:34:50.160 than to be hateful.

00:34:52.060 And it would be a hateful thing for me.

00:34:54.580 And I, you know, look, I'm not naive.

00:34:56.980 As I began to get pushback in my advocacy

00:35:00.580 for the Palestinians, I thought, is this prudent? 0.99

00:35:03.660 This is gonna undermine my witness for the,

00:35:05.760 our Afghan ally SIVs or my work in Nigeria or Sudan

00:35:08.660 or my pro-life witness.

00:35:10.380 People are gonna call me to these things

00:35:11.780 and it's gonna undermine my witness.

00:35:13.320 And I thought, no one helped me.

00:35:16.700 I felt alone in the world as a young 17 year old boy

00:35:19.860 trying to fight abortion without the internet,

00:35:21.440 without email, didn't know I had an ally in the world.

00:35:25.820 And I didn't want anyone to feel that way.

00:35:27.800 So be it, whatever comes, that's fine.

00:35:32.000 But there is something that is hard for me.

00:35:33.980 You know, with my work at VPP,

00:35:35.140 we've really worked closely with the Jewish community.

00:35:37.340 We evacuated the last young Jewish man from Afghanistan, 0.79

00:35:42.340 Afghanistan. The world doesn't even really know he exists. He's in Canada now. A wonderful,

00:35:47.780 beautiful young man. And I did that for someone I love from New York, who is the PR guy for a

00:35:54.480 major Zionist organization. The hard part for me is that people I love will think that I don't love

00:36:03.540 them. People that I love will think that I have somehow been swept away by some anti-Semitic

00:36:09.320 enthusiasm and i'm just using the palestinians as as an excuse to to use this hatred i always have 0.86

00:36:16.200 had that's the part that is hard for me but what the mob says on x or what some stranger says

00:36:23.120 even if they really believe it i don't care the hard part is um the people that you really care

00:36:30.720 about feel hurt and abandoned for example my one friend i mean this issue is very close to him he

00:36:36.520 lost friends on on October 7th you know and I have another friend who I adore who's just ghosted me

00:36:43.840 the other friend I commend him we're still friends on Facebook and we still send each other niceties

00:36:48.040 another friend who I adore she's a human rights lawyer and a hero I just don't think she could

00:36:53.740 take my posts anymore and she unfriended me there was she's one of the most people in the world I

00:36:58.620 admire most she's been heroic for vulnerable communities so that is all that is always the

00:37:04.040 hard part you know that's that's the hard part my gosh yeah well when we stand for the truth and

00:37:09.320 with christ he did tell us it would uh end up with persecution thank you can i add one more thing oh

00:37:16.160 by all means please you know and this is why bishop baron and cardinal dolan um i had a friend who was

00:37:23.680 in a same-sex marriage and we were very we were very close when pope francis had made some

00:37:31.360 statements that were really um that could have been taken many different ways she called me and

00:37:37.060 said you can really support what i'm doing now and i said no no and that ruined our friendship

00:37:44.540 if if our bishop spoke with clarity i wouldn't have to worry about my friends thinking i hate

00:37:53.500 them but but when they sit on the sidelines with their powerful voice it allows these attacks to

00:38:01.300 have resonance but you know you look at was it um archbishop rummel in new orleans who had

00:38:10.380 excommunicated politicians that supported segregation and what did the catholic lady

00:38:16.380 at the time do they went and renamed all their streets and their towns after the politicians

00:38:22.380 that the bishop excommunicated for supporting segregation

00:38:26.760 think how hurt he must have been but today we think of bishop rummel and we admire him

00:38:36.160 we look at franz yeager's daughter we admire him but his priest and his bishop thought he was

00:38:41.640 imprudent he could have gone about it better all the things they say about carrie prajean

00:38:46.160 it's not what she said it's how she said it there was a better place or a better time to say what

00:38:50.740 she was saying it's the same things they used to tell me about abortion in the late 80s it's the

00:38:55.500 Same thing they told Franz Jaeger's daughter.

00:38:57.720 I'm sure they told, someone said to Maximilian Kolbe,

00:39:00.560 you're imprudent, don't do these things.

00:39:03.680 There's a better way to do it.

00:39:05.840 And so it's just, it's the story.

00:39:08.460 It is, it is.

00:39:10.000 Keep fighting, my friend.

00:39:11.660 Thank you, brother.

00:39:12.860 Ladies and gentlemen, Jason Jones.

00:39:15.180 God bless you.

00:39:16.260 Thanks, brother.

00:39:17.660 And God bless all of you.

00:39:19.380 We'll see you next time.

00:39:20.140 Hello, it's Fr. David Nix. If you like this content, please click the link in the description

00:39:29.140 for more like this. Thank you all for watching, and God bless you.

The John-Henry Westen Show - March 27, 2026

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