The John-Henry Westen Show - July 06, 2022


Trudeau doesn't care one bit about families impacted by COVID jab mandate: Canadian veteran


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Jesse DeCosta is a father, a veteran of the Canadian Army, a husband, and a father-to-be. He lost his job for standing up for his own faith, his own beliefs, and for truth, and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is happy with that.

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00:00:00.000 Prime Minister Trudeau has just basically expressed not only that he doesn't care,
00:00:06.080 but almost a sense of satisfaction that people lost their jobs for refusing, for religious or
00:00:13.200 medical reasons, his jab mandate, his mandate that people get jabbed with a so-called vaccine
00:00:20.020 that was made off the backs of aborted babies. Maybe people don't think of the actual consequences
00:00:25.540 of his barbarism. We're going to look at the consequences today. We have a guest with us
00:00:31.540 who is a father. He's a young man still, at least, you know, not elderly, couldn't take retirement,
00:00:40.220 has children, and lost his job. He's a veteran of the Canadian Army, lost his job anyway for standing
00:00:49.740 up for his own faith, his own beliefs, and for truth. And Trudeau is happy with that.
00:00:55.860 This is the John Henry Weston Show. Stay tuned.
00:01:16.760 Just before we begin, let me remind you that we are in the middle of our fundraiser,
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00:01:26.400 Jesse DeCosta, good to be with you. Hi, nice to meet you finally in person.
00:01:31.400 John, I've followed your site for probably since the early 2000s. I'm a big fan of LifeSite News
00:01:36.240 and all the work you do for the pro-life movement. Praise God. Let's begin as we always do at the
00:01:41.460 side of the cross. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
00:01:47.840 Now, Jesse, you are one of the victims of Prime Minister Trudeau's mania in his push for the
00:01:58.460 JAB mandates without any regard for the consequences of his inane demands. In fact, now, even on the other
00:02:06.140 side where we realized, oh my goodness, they actually realized that the mandates were not
00:02:11.520 doing anything. They were there basically to punish people for not being willing to obey.
00:02:15.520 They weren't doing the job in terms of anything to do with health or the spread of coronavirus.
00:02:23.980 And still, he's unrepentant. Still, in the face of so many people suffering because of what he did,
00:02:29.140 he shows not only no remorse, but he justifies it. Tell us about yourself and about your story.
00:02:37.820 Well, as you said, I'm a veteran. I have a 22 years combined service. So combined service,
00:02:43.740 that means I was 12 years in the Army, and then I was 10 years a military firefighter. So they're
00:02:47.760 just slightly different branches. So I retired in 2018. I did a short stint in corrections. And then
00:02:57.280 I was hired by the Calgary Airport to be a firefighter here by a private company based out
00:03:02.520 of the States. It was a great job. We had a great crew. It was exciting. I was good at my job. I was
00:03:09.400 told by my direct supervisor that, you know, if positions had come up, he would recommend me for
00:03:14.600 promotion. He said I was a top guy. It's true. He said, but then, you know, once COVID happened,
00:03:23.500 kind of like everything changed, it was like, at first, it wasn't so much walking on eggshell. I
00:03:28.800 would say from in 2020, there was a good sense, maybe half the firefighters kind of knew there was
00:03:34.820 something wrong with, let's say the narrative, the media was constantly feeding us. And they were
00:03:39.760 like, no, this is not right. A lot of them are looking up doing their own research on the vaccines
00:03:44.220 and knowing that no, these vaccines are not legitimate vaccines. But, you know, at the end of the day,
00:03:49.000 once the mandate came out, a lot of pressure was put down on these people. So, you know, we went from
00:03:55.980 being half of us saying, well, no, we're not going to take it. We're not going to take it. And then
00:03:59.120 slowly, slowly, those numbers would dwindle. And it finally came down to it. A couple of us would put
00:04:05.640 on leave without pay, me being one of them in November of 2021, when the mandates hit. And we applied
00:04:12.960 for a religious exemption. I knew it was coming. So I'd kind of had prepared it. I thought I had a really
00:04:18.620 strong religious exemption. You know, I had the support of Bishop Schneider, the means that he
00:04:24.300 provided, but I also had the support of our local priest. And they basically, my employer just didn't
00:04:32.340 even really address it. They sent it off to a third party, which I thought was odd. Usually they should
00:04:36.940 work with the employee directly to come to some sort of resolution. They didn't. They sent it off to a
00:04:42.040 third party. Who's this third party? I wondered, and are they a theologian? Like, are they, how do they
00:04:46.900 know how, you know, how my religious exemption and the vaccines, like, how it applies theologically?
00:04:56.180 So, you know, I'm not a professional theologian, but I studied theology, you know, informally for
00:05:03.260 years. So I have a little bit of a grasp of it. But again, they never approached me personally.
00:05:07.860 And then they just before, right before Christmas said they rejected it. And that if I didn't get the
00:05:14.880 vaccine by February, I'd be fired. So I'm like, no, there's no way I'm taking it. And I did eventually
00:05:22.420 get fired in March, but I had already pursued other like just jobs, like odd jobs, not in my career field,
00:05:28.100 just to kind of bring some income in. And yeah, that's about it. You kind of hit the nail on the
00:05:35.660 head when you said Trudeau's mania. It does seem that, you know, he reminds me of, you know,
00:05:44.060 Nero while Rome burned, you know, playing the fiddle, like everything. You see all these other
00:05:47.940 countries that even had these ridiculous mandates lifting them now and realizing that, you know,
00:05:53.860 there never was really, it never really was warranted. And he was just kind of still playing
00:05:59.100 the fiddle as Rome burns. And like, you know, like you said, unrepented, he doesn't care. He just,
00:06:04.720 it's more about him power, him having power over, over, over his minions, it seems, you know. 0.96
00:06:15.020 It's, it's absolutely disgusting. But let us learn a little bit about you. Would you mind telling us 0.91
00:06:20.260 about your family? Yeah, so I have one wife, two kids, been married for over 20 years, 1999, we were
00:06:30.200 married. So my daughter's 16, my son's seven, we homeschool. So basically, I'm the sole breadwinner
00:06:39.160 of my family. You know, and my, but my wife was really, really supportive when this all came out.
00:06:44.320 She's like, No, I don't want you taking that. A, because we know morally, it's tainted.
00:06:48.560 But B, we don't even, and there's no, you know, what they were, what they were telling us COVID was
00:06:55.960 going to be in early 2020, and never panned out. So it was really never a pandemic, like,
00:07:01.220 in the sense that they were saying. So, you know, as we discussed before, the principle of double effect,
00:07:09.600 you know, you hear a lot of people, they talk in generalities, can you take certain tainted
00:07:14.620 vaccines, if, you know, it's the only choice and, and, and, you know, people are dying all around
00:07:21.740 you, maybe the principle of double effect can allow it. But there has to be a real, real reason,
00:07:27.620 real pressing reason. And since that wasn't the case, there were no people dropping dead all over
00:07:32.500 the place, then I believe that the principle of double effect never really came into play.
00:07:36.940 So now you're just taking a medication tainted by abortion. But not only that, you know,
00:07:42.480 we have a moral responsibility for our own health as well, we shouldn't just take something,
00:07:48.160 even if it wasn't tainted by abortion. But it had all these side effects, which were very, very
00:07:54.180 harmful, and which really outweighed the protection that gave you. I don't think you can morally take it,
00:07:59.760 because now you're putting yourself in danger. For no real good reason, right? You know, we see all
00:08:07.160 these blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, you know, the idea of sterility, this was being a lot
00:08:14.500 of people were raising the red flag on this, even before these vaccines were out. So people that used
00:08:21.320 to work for the company saying, No, they're, there's fertility, fertility issues here. And you know, 0.81
00:08:26.360 that's a horrible thing, especially if you inject a child, I don't know how anybody can inject a 1.00
00:08:30.900 child with this. And let's say you sterilize your child, you're taking that choice away from your
00:08:36.540 child. You know?
00:08:39.040 Now, as you said, you had to go basically job hunting back to sort of square one. And you've now,
00:08:49.300 how are you faring right now?
00:08:50.860 Well, I first, I took a local job basically just doing snow removal, right? Which, you know,
00:08:57.100 very physically demanding, long hours and not very much pay. I did that for a little while. And then,
00:09:01.840 then after that, I did that for about a month and a half. But it was very sporadic too. It wasn't,
00:09:08.060 you couldn't count on it. And it was only when it snowed, you know, if it didn't snow, you didn't work.
00:09:12.920 So, um, then a contact through the church said, Oh, I know a guy, a local construction,
00:09:18.700 renovation company that were looking for help. So then I got on with them, did that for a couple
00:09:24.820 months, um, which was just doing odd jobs around the house that they were renovating a little bit
00:09:30.380 better pay. But again, you know, I'm very physically demanding. I actually, because I don't want to say
00:09:39.120 like, cause firefighting is physically demanding, demanding, and I was in fairly, really good shape.
00:09:43.320 Um, but firefighting is different that when I say physically demanding, this other job was,
00:09:48.480 it's not that it was harder, um, in a sense, like you had to be in better shape,
00:09:54.120 but it was the repetitive nature of the work you were doing. So I was doing a lot of like a demolition
00:09:59.680 and, uh, you know, so like literally ripping up floors, like hammering and, uh, all day and
00:10:05.520 ripping up with a pry bar. So that did an actually did a number on my, my hand. Like, um,
00:10:10.200 when I was in the military, I hurt my elbow years ago. I had what's called tennis elbow. Right. And
00:10:17.440 so, um, I used to go to physiotherapy, it kind of went away for a while, but this really
00:10:22.760 exacerbated that problem. That's the point where like, uh, every night I was waking up with burning,
00:10:28.400 uh, numbness in my hands. Right. But I just, I kept on doing it, but I, you know, you got to provide.
00:10:33.480 So I'm like, Oh, whatever. I just worked through the pain and kept doing it. Then another, uh,
00:10:38.140 position opened up, um, doing a driving job. So I'm a picker driver, basically, or it's a class
00:10:45.700 three vehicle with a crane for a local construction company, a commercial construction company here.
00:10:50.980 So they hired me about six weeks ago and that's who I'm currently working for now. So it's a little
00:10:56.080 bit better pay. It's not as hard on my, on my arms, my hands, but you know, again,
00:11:02.320 it's still not as good for our family life as, as the airport job was. Obviously we talked about,
00:11:10.700 um, you know, many kids that have a bit of special needs. Um, so it's hard on my wife, 1.00
00:11:16.460 the fire job, a lot of my schedule for me to be home a lot more to help her out, you know, 0.94
00:11:21.900 she homeschools and then, um, you know, so I was home a lot more and, um, it was just better for us,
00:11:30.560 better for our family life. Now I'm, I'm away a lot more. I'm not making as much money.
00:11:36.260 I'm not that the money is bad, but, um, you know, I've had to give up a career though,
00:11:43.080 like that. And that's different. You know, people though, you know, I worked over 12 years as a
00:11:48.240 firefighter. Right. And so that was a career path that I was on. I was trained for it. I have,
00:11:53.360 you know, I have qualifications for it. So now it's like starting at square one again,
00:11:58.300 when you're 46 years old and people say, well, why wouldn't you go and just get another fire job?
00:12:02.500 Well, I'm not firefighting is very competitive. It's not like if I have a business degree,
00:12:07.720 when I get fired from a company that let's say, you know, has these vaccine mandates,
00:12:12.620 but you, you know, like you have a business degree, you can go anywhere that looks for
00:12:15.440 those qualifications. It's not, it's not the same sort of thing where it's firefighting is very
00:12:20.400 niche, very competitive. You can't just go and say, I'm just going to apply for a municipal
00:12:24.840 fire department and get it. Not only that, but being my age, physically, I'm not in as good
00:12:30.440 a shape as I used to be. And that's part of usually an application process, right? For a fire department.
00:12:36.420 One of the things too, is that you, you moved to get to this job. Did you not?
00:12:41.240 Yes, I did. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, Nola, my wife, her family was from Edmonton. So we had to
00:12:48.220 move away from her family. So we pretty much don't have any other family here. On the other hand,
00:12:52.900 you know, I don't regret moving, but I did move for the job, but I also moved to be closer to our
00:13:01.400 church community. So, you know, I think it's providential that we moved here. Everything
00:13:06.820 is providential. Everything happens for a reason. So we'll see what happens, right? We'll see where
00:13:13.100 we're going. Let's get to that because while God might make good of it, it doesn't excuse
00:13:18.700 what your employers did to you. And they might've been forced. Ultimately, Trudeau did. But let's get
00:13:25.360 to the other side of the story as well. I would love to hear what the reaction is from your wife
00:13:31.820 and from your kids to what you've done. Um, well, like, like I said earlier, my wife was really
00:13:43.220 supportive. She knew it was coming, you know, but she, her take was that it's hard. It's going to be
00:13:48.480 hard. It's going to be hard on me. And it has been, has been especially hard on my wife. She's had to
00:13:53.520 have had to given up, you know, a lot by me being away more often now, maybe not as available for her
00:14:02.400 anymore. Um, my wife's got fibromyalgia too. So it's like, there's, there's health issues in the
00:14:08.200 family that, that, um, you know, affect our day-to-day life. And so me and my schedule allowing
00:14:17.960 me to be home more often. It wasn't kind of like luxury thing. It wasn't just, oh, look at me. It was,
00:14:22.100 it allowed me to do more around the home to take more off. Yeah. Take a load off of her, uh, help 0.99
00:14:28.520 with the kids. Um, and on just so many aspects. So she knew that going into this, that she would
00:14:34.640 be sacrificing a lot. And in many ways, it's been a bigger sacrifice on her than it has been on,
00:14:39.900 on me. I mean, but it's been hard on all of us. Um, you know, but at the same time, she said, well,
00:14:48.520 okay, you're giving up the job, you're giving up the time off, you're giving up the pay.
00:14:54.360 But, um, we don't know that if you took this, what would happen? If you, if you are disabled from
00:15:02.060 it, then you're still going to give up your career. You're still going to not be able to work
00:15:06.020 in that industry, but not only that particular job, that industry, if something happens, if you
00:15:11.340 get a stroke, if you get a heart attack, if you have seizures now that are ongoing, which you see
00:15:15.660 happening all over the place. Um, so you can't really replace your health. You know, you can get
00:15:21.480 another job and I have been able to do that. Um, even though it's been detrimental in certain aspects
00:15:26.720 to my health, obviously, um, these are not life-threatening injuries. These are just injuries
00:15:32.980 I kind of have to like put up with and, um, and, and power through. But her, her main point was that
00:15:42.260 if I had become permanently disabled, I still wouldn't be there for her. I still wouldn't be
00:15:46.300 there for the family. And then I wouldn't be able to get, you know, it would limit me even further in
00:15:51.600 the future. Right. And who would have paid for that? You know, there was never any clear indication.
00:15:56.880 If you got injured by one of these vaccines, was my employer going to pay for that? Was the airport
00:16:02.960 going to pay for that? Was Trudeau government going to pay for that? I don't know. Right. Not unclear.
00:16:09.460 Our insurance company is going to pay for that. You hear a lot of stories popping up that no
00:16:13.360 insurance companies are not paying for that. So what they're saying, ultimately it was still your
00:16:17.380 choice, you know, because, you know, coerce will coerce you, coerce you, coerce you, but ultimately
00:16:23.420 it's still your choice. Really? How much of a choice is it when you have to give up everything
00:16:28.180 you've worked for your entire life or your, you know, your ability to earn a living? That's not much
00:16:33.460 of a choice. So yeah, exactly. Um, have your kids mentioned anything or said anything about this?
00:16:40.840 Um, my daughter's a little bit confused. I mean, she knows, um, we believe, and I'm not,
00:16:48.040 I'm not going to, she's never been formally diagnosed. So I don't like saying, uh, you know,
00:16:54.460 coming out and saying these absolute statements, but from all the research we've done, you know,
00:16:59.160 we would think that she leans more, uh, a lot into the Asperger's, um, category, right? So
00:17:06.960 she has a certain understanding, but all that she knows is now I'm not home as much anymore.
00:17:13.140 And it's been hard on her. Um, one of the benefits of moving down here is that we're fairly close to
00:17:20.740 the Rockies and on our days off, you know, I would take that time. I'd take my daughter,
00:17:26.740 sometimes just me and my daughter and we'd go on a lot of hikes in the mountains. And that was kind
00:17:30.100 of like our time, right. Or that was her time to get away. Um, you know, get away from the house. 0.79
00:17:37.220 Um, and just be alone with me and her, we still do that, but it's a lot less frequently. So
00:17:44.720 she's had to give up on that. Um, you know, and that's one of the things like she, we didn't have 0.98
00:17:49.840 that in Edmonton, you know, we didn't have the ability to do those sort of things. You're a lot
00:17:53.320 limited in the activities you can do up there. Uh, so that was a very big bonus for her when we
00:17:58.420 moved down here. And so we can tell that's hard on her not being able to get out as much anymore.
00:18:03.220 Cause that was kind of like one thing that she relied on. Right. Um, yeah. What are your plans
00:18:09.240 right now in terms of fighting back against this? Well, um, we, we were unionized, uh, that was
00:18:19.340 through PSAC. The problem is that we had just become unionized because about a year prior to,
00:18:27.160 uh, to the mandates coming out. So there's no collective bargaining agreement. They're still
00:18:32.260 in negotiations right now. So since they're still in the middle of negotiations, it kind of made the
00:18:37.020 whole thing a little bit more tricky. Um, but I did file for a grievance or I made it aware to my
00:18:42.800 union as soon as they rejected my religious exemption that I would be filing a grievance against it.
00:18:47.380 And I was fired anyway. Well, anyway, the union appointed a lawyer, uh, to me. So the, I am
00:18:54.400 working with a lawyer. I think we're currently in arbitration right now. Uh, we tried to do a
00:18:58.940 mediation session. This was about a week or two ago with the employer. Um, that didn't go very well.
00:19:05.640 Um, so the employer kind of didn't, they, their stance was that they had it imposed on them and it was,
00:19:13.800 you know, they were putting a rock in a hard place and it would have been financially a burden for them
00:19:18.680 to support me. Um, and I said, well, it's still, you still could have honored my exemption, you know?
00:19:24.900 So that was my, my case. I understand that you were put in this situation when it came down from
00:19:30.300 the federal government, but at some point you have to fight back. Right. And since I can't fight back
00:19:36.180 directly against the federal government, I have to fight back against the employer. It was still an
00:19:41.180 unjust, uh, um, termination in my point of view. So that's the route I'm going, you know? Uh, so
00:19:49.020 currently in arbitration, I don't know where that's going to go. It could lead to me getting,
00:19:53.640 either getting my job back or getting financial compensation for being unjustly let go, basically.
00:19:59.680 Um, so Jesse, if you could rewind, would you consider taking the vaccine now knowing all that,
00:20:09.740 you know, where it would lead you? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It's, it's, um,
00:20:16.360 it's, it's the vaccine itself is not a vaccine. We know that it's an mRNA treatment. Oh, at least
00:20:23.940 that's one type. They're all connected to the abortion industry. The, um, the COVID itself, I've
00:20:31.580 had COVID and it was, I've had flus in the past that were worse than COVID. So it doesn't warrant
00:20:37.060 taking a vaccine, an experimental new vaccine, which there's no long-term studies for, and which,
00:20:44.400 you know, when you look at the VAERS reports and all these, and the VAERS reports only represents a
00:20:48.700 small percentage of things that, of the actual amounts of side effects that are going on, because
00:20:53.140 not that many people report them. Many go unrecorded, but the numbers are so astronomically
00:20:59.300 off the charts that there's no way I would take it. Like I would not put my life and health at risk
00:21:06.920 for this. Right. And, and like we said before, it's not just the abortion component, although that's a
00:21:12.560 large component. It's the fact that it can harm your health. And, you know, we are stewards, you know,
00:21:18.940 of our own body and our own bodily health, you know, if our body's a temple of the Holy ghost,
00:21:23.360 right. We can't do things knowingly to harm ourselves when it's unwarranted. You know,
00:21:29.660 you have to make educated decisions on these things. And I've made, you know, I've done the
00:21:33.880 research. I know it does not warrant taking this experimental technology. Um, so no, I would not
00:21:39.880 take it. Um, at some point people have to stand up and they have to stand against these evil mandates
00:21:46.620 because it sets an evil precedence. If you just roll over, you know, and do whatever they,
00:21:54.420 they say, then what else are they going to do? What, what's the next step? Right. Right. I didn't
00:22:01.060 serve 22 years in the military to have all our rights taken away from us. What was the point of
00:22:06.280 it? Why did I know I knew comrades that, that died in Afghanistan. Why did they die just to have all
00:22:13.180 our rights taken away from us over nothing? You know, um, it's really surprising and alarming that
00:22:20.860 so many people went along with it. Although, you know, I wouldn't say willingly, I would say the
00:22:25.660 vast majority of people went along with it because they were coerced, you know, and had these mandates
00:22:33.100 not been in place, I would say the numbers would be a lot smaller than the amount of people that
00:22:37.940 actually took this vaccine. Definitely. So finally, this, have you been able to recognize or see
00:22:47.620 God's hand throughout this working with you and your family? Because it seems you suffered a lot.
00:22:56.000 What was your thinking about our Lord's role and how he might have been there for you or not been
00:23:01.620 there for you, uh, during this time? God's always there for you. So I don't think God's,
00:23:07.320 you can never say that God's not there for you. Even you're in your suffering, he's there for you
00:23:11.200 because he wants to unite your suffering to his suffering. You know, um, Father Reuter in this,
00:23:17.780 this last Sunday, he gave an amazing, amazing, um, sermon on the sacred heart and on how the part of
00:23:26.040 the devotion of the sacred heart is making reparation, making reparation for our sins, but also the
00:23:31.300 indifference and lack of love that is shown to our Lord. And that he emptied himself completely on the
00:23:37.180 cross out of love for us. And at the heart, his heart is the center of his being. And because of
00:23:41.880 the hypostatic union, even though it's a human heart, it's hypostatically united to the word of God.
00:23:47.780 And the heart represents love and charity. And so God is perfect charity. The sacred heart represents
00:23:53.340 the perfect charity of God. When we suffer because he suffered completely, he emptied himself
00:24:00.600 completely for us. His heart was pierced, right? And his blood flowed and he emptied every last drop
00:24:06.480 of blood on the cross through his sacred heart. So, um, our suffering allows us to unite to his sacred
00:24:15.400 heart and make reparation for the evil. And we know how the evil age we live in. And your, your,
00:24:22.180 your, your news outlet is a perfect, perfect, you know, indication of that, that the evils that you
00:24:29.260 cover in our society every day, which is just keep scorn and scorn and scorn on God, right?
00:24:35.040 Now, God is all merciful, but God is also all just, right? And we know that the justice of God is going
00:24:40.100 to fall on society soon. So the more reparation we can make in our suffering, the more we can unite our
00:24:46.840 suffering to Christ's suffering, the more we can hasten the triumph of his sacred heart and the
00:24:51.500 immaculate heart of Mary in the world and the conversion of sinners too, right? We don't know.
00:24:56.640 We'll, we'll only know when we die. We might go through our entire lives, not knowing, you know,
00:25:02.800 we look at events that happen in kind of like, we put them in a little box here as, you know,
00:25:08.120 individual events, all this bad thing happened, but we don't know the big scale of things, right?
00:25:14.080 Well, God can use all these evil, negative things, maybe to convert somebody. If, if you, if you,
00:25:20.800 if you weather it with grace, maybe you win the grace as a conversion of a sinner out there, 0.97
00:25:25.700 right? And you're not going to know this until you die. Maybe we all go to the general judgment.
00:25:29.420 So I don't look at this as, I mean, yes, it was a negative thing. And like you said before,
00:25:35.880 that doesn't mean we, we just roll over for evil and we let people do evil thing to us because God
00:25:42.060 can make good come out of it. But because God can make good come out of it, it helps us to weather
00:25:46.680 those evil things a bit better. But we still fight for justice because like we said, God is all just,
00:25:51.720 God does not want evil people to just triumph in the world and, and good people to just lay down
00:25:57.780 and roll over and play dead. So there's, there's two things. You have to weather that evil with grace
00:26:03.320 and try to merit as much grace as you can from it. And two, you do have to push back and fight the evil
00:26:09.060 because God wants you to fight because you're not only fighting for yourself, you're fighting for
00:26:13.500 other people. You're fighting for justice. You're fighting for goodness. You're fighting for
00:26:18.320 all those things. And we see that in the recent Roe v. Wade decision in the States that took the
00:26:24.460 effort of pro-life movement in the States. How many years fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting,
00:26:29.080 fighting, right? Well, God used that, God used that. And he finally, you know, he gave us a little win
00:26:34.640 in this, this evil we're immersed in almost daily. It looks like we're surrounded by evil and he gave us
00:26:41.180 that win, right? Because we're a faithful people. So it takes faithful people to stand up and to fight
00:26:47.820 against evil. Right. And, and, you know, I don't care if I'm only one person. I never saw it as just
00:26:52.780 fighting for me and fighting for my job, even though that's what I was doing. That's not only
00:26:57.800 what I was doing, you know, and I, and I made it plain, you know, we had, um, we had a union AGM
00:27:03.920 prior to, prior to me being let go. And I, and I said it with the union rep because, you know, it seemed
00:27:09.980 like our union was, was very, you know, pro vaccine mandate and, you know, they would help you if you
00:27:16.580 want it, it didn't want it, but it was almost like a reluctant help, right? All, all the official,
00:27:22.480 you know, if you went on their website, all the official narrative was, yeah, I get it. Cause
00:27:25.960 it's good. It's protecting. I'm like, okay, whatever. Anyway, I made it very clear. I was
00:27:31.400 stating my case that I didn't believe in the policy. I didn't believe in the mandates, but it wasn't only
00:27:36.340 for me. It was for all the other firefighters. Cause I knew there were other firefighters there that
00:27:40.100 didn't want it and only got it because they were coerced, but why should they have had to even
00:27:44.960 had to make that decision? What about any health issues that they're going to go through? Uh,
00:27:49.340 maybe because of it. And now that they get boosted of all, if they bring in a mandate to get boosted,
00:27:54.600 you know, what happens when all of a sudden, you know, and yes, we can see a lot of the mandates
00:27:59.860 falling maybe because that's good people that are pushed back, but if no one had pushed back,
00:28:05.360 maybe, you know, you would have to get boosted every, every year. Otherwise, you know, you're not up to
00:28:10.940 date on your vaccines. Then every boost you get, you're, you're putting yourself out there for a
00:28:16.400 risk of some very extremely negative side effects. Right. So I was never just fighting for myself.
00:28:21.900 I was fighting for my fellow firefighters. It's fighting against the policy and society at large.
00:28:27.120 You shouldn't, it should just, we shouldn't just let this go unchecked. Right. Um,
00:28:32.280 yeah, you, sir, are a soldier. You've been one for many years, both in the army as a firefighter for
00:28:38.400 the army or the military. Um, and you've kept going fighting for Canada, despite the suffering.
00:28:46.460 God bless you, Jesse DaCosta. Thanks, John. It was very, uh, it was a pleasure meeting you. It's
00:28:50.900 a pleasure being on your show. And I hope that if anything, I can, maybe my story helps other
00:28:57.460 people that are in such similar situations, knowing that, you know, God will take care of you. Right.
00:29:02.500 Um, yes, sometimes you feel like it's, it's, it's an uphill battle and it is, but God will look out
00:29:09.920 for you when you have to trust in that. Right. Amen to that. Yeah. And God bless all of you. And we'll
00:29:17.380 see you next time.