Trudeau doesn't care one bit about families impacted by COVID jab mandate： Canadian veteran
Summary
Jesse DeCosta is a father, a veteran of the Canadian Army, a husband, and a father-to-be. He lost his job for standing up for his own faith, his own beliefs, and for truth, and Prime Minister Justin Trudeau is happy with that.
Transcript
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Prime Minister Trudeau has just basically expressed not only that he doesn't care,
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but almost a sense of satisfaction that people lost their jobs for refusing, for religious or
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medical reasons, his jab mandate, his mandate that people get jabbed with a so-called vaccine
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that was made off the backs of aborted babies. Maybe people don't think of the actual consequences
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of his barbarism. We're going to look at the consequences today. We have a guest with us
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who is a father. He's a young man still, at least, you know, not elderly, couldn't take retirement,
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has children, and lost his job. He's a veteran of the Canadian Army, lost his job anyway for standing
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up for his own faith, his own beliefs, and for truth. And Trudeau is happy with that.
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This is the John Henry Weston Show. Stay tuned.
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Jesse DeCosta, good to be with you. Hi, nice to meet you finally in person.
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John, I've followed your site for probably since the early 2000s. I'm a big fan of LifeSite News
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and all the work you do for the pro-life movement. Praise God. Let's begin as we always do at the
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side of the cross. In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost. Amen.
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Now, Jesse, you are one of the victims of Prime Minister Trudeau's mania in his push for the
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JAB mandates without any regard for the consequences of his inane demands. In fact, now, even on the other
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side where we realized, oh my goodness, they actually realized that the mandates were not
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doing anything. They were there basically to punish people for not being willing to obey.
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They weren't doing the job in terms of anything to do with health or the spread of coronavirus.
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And still, he's unrepentant. Still, in the face of so many people suffering because of what he did,
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he shows not only no remorse, but he justifies it. Tell us about yourself and about your story.
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Well, as you said, I'm a veteran. I have a 22 years combined service. So combined service,
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that means I was 12 years in the Army, and then I was 10 years a military firefighter. So they're
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just slightly different branches. So I retired in 2018. I did a short stint in corrections. And then
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I was hired by the Calgary Airport to be a firefighter here by a private company based out
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of the States. It was a great job. We had a great crew. It was exciting. I was good at my job. I was
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told by my direct supervisor that, you know, if positions had come up, he would recommend me for
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promotion. He said I was a top guy. It's true. He said, but then, you know, once COVID happened,
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kind of like everything changed, it was like, at first, it wasn't so much walking on eggshell. I
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would say from in 2020, there was a good sense, maybe half the firefighters kind of knew there was
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something wrong with, let's say the narrative, the media was constantly feeding us. And they were
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like, no, this is not right. A lot of them are looking up doing their own research on the vaccines
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and knowing that no, these vaccines are not legitimate vaccines. But, you know, at the end of the day,
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once the mandate came out, a lot of pressure was put down on these people. So, you know, we went from
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being half of us saying, well, no, we're not going to take it. We're not going to take it. And then
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slowly, slowly, those numbers would dwindle. And it finally came down to it. A couple of us would put
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on leave without pay, me being one of them in November of 2021, when the mandates hit. And we applied
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for a religious exemption. I knew it was coming. So I'd kind of had prepared it. I thought I had a really
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strong religious exemption. You know, I had the support of Bishop Schneider, the means that he
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provided, but I also had the support of our local priest. And they basically, my employer just didn't
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even really address it. They sent it off to a third party, which I thought was odd. Usually they should
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work with the employee directly to come to some sort of resolution. They didn't. They sent it off to a
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third party. Who's this third party? I wondered, and are they a theologian? Like, are they, how do they
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know how, you know, how my religious exemption and the vaccines, like, how it applies theologically?
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So, you know, I'm not a professional theologian, but I studied theology, you know, informally for
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years. So I have a little bit of a grasp of it. But again, they never approached me personally.
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And then they just before, right before Christmas said they rejected it. And that if I didn't get the
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vaccine by February, I'd be fired. So I'm like, no, there's no way I'm taking it. And I did eventually
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get fired in March, but I had already pursued other like just jobs, like odd jobs, not in my career field,
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just to kind of bring some income in. And yeah, that's about it. You kind of hit the nail on the
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head when you said Trudeau's mania. It does seem that, you know, he reminds me of, you know,
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Nero while Rome burned, you know, playing the fiddle, like everything. You see all these other
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countries that even had these ridiculous mandates lifting them now and realizing that, you know,
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there never was really, it never really was warranted. And he was just kind of still playing
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the fiddle as Rome burns. And like, you know, like you said, unrepented, he doesn't care. He just,
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it's more about him power, him having power over, over, over his minions, it seems, you know.
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It's, it's absolutely disgusting. But let us learn a little bit about you. Would you mind telling us
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about your family? Yeah, so I have one wife, two kids, been married for over 20 years, 1999, we were
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married. So my daughter's 16, my son's seven, we homeschool. So basically, I'm the sole breadwinner
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of my family. You know, and my, but my wife was really, really supportive when this all came out.
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She's like, No, I don't want you taking that. A, because we know morally, it's tainted.
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But B, we don't even, and there's no, you know, what they were, what they were telling us COVID was
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going to be in early 2020, and never panned out. So it was really never a pandemic, like,
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in the sense that they were saying. So, you know, as we discussed before, the principle of double effect,
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you know, you hear a lot of people, they talk in generalities, can you take certain tainted
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vaccines, if, you know, it's the only choice and, and, and, you know, people are dying all around
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you, maybe the principle of double effect can allow it. But there has to be a real, real reason,
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real pressing reason. And since that wasn't the case, there were no people dropping dead all over
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the place, then I believe that the principle of double effect never really came into play.
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So now you're just taking a medication tainted by abortion. But not only that, you know,
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we have a moral responsibility for our own health as well, we shouldn't just take something,
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even if it wasn't tainted by abortion. But it had all these side effects, which were very, very
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harmful, and which really outweighed the protection that gave you. I don't think you can morally take it,
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because now you're putting yourself in danger. For no real good reason, right? You know, we see all
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these blood clots, heart attacks, strokes, you know, the idea of sterility, this was being a lot
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of people were raising the red flag on this, even before these vaccines were out. So people that used
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to work for the company saying, No, they're, there's fertility, fertility issues here. And you know,
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that's a horrible thing, especially if you inject a child, I don't know how anybody can inject a
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child with this. And let's say you sterilize your child, you're taking that choice away from your
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Now, as you said, you had to go basically job hunting back to sort of square one. And you've now,
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Well, I first, I took a local job basically just doing snow removal, right? Which, you know,
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very physically demanding, long hours and not very much pay. I did that for a little while. And then,
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then after that, I did that for about a month and a half. But it was very sporadic too. It wasn't,
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you couldn't count on it. And it was only when it snowed, you know, if it didn't snow, you didn't work.
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So, um, then a contact through the church said, Oh, I know a guy, a local construction,
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renovation company that were looking for help. So then I got on with them, did that for a couple
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months, um, which was just doing odd jobs around the house that they were renovating a little bit
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better pay. But again, you know, I'm very physically demanding. I actually, because I don't want to say
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like, cause firefighting is physically demanding, demanding, and I was in fairly, really good shape.
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Um, but firefighting is different that when I say physically demanding, this other job was,
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it's not that it was harder, um, in a sense, like you had to be in better shape,
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but it was the repetitive nature of the work you were doing. So I was doing a lot of like a demolition
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and, uh, you know, so like literally ripping up floors, like hammering and, uh, all day and
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ripping up with a pry bar. So that did an actually did a number on my, my hand. Like, um,
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when I was in the military, I hurt my elbow years ago. I had what's called tennis elbow. Right. And
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so, um, I used to go to physiotherapy, it kind of went away for a while, but this really
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exacerbated that problem. That's the point where like, uh, every night I was waking up with burning,
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uh, numbness in my hands. Right. But I just, I kept on doing it, but I, you know, you got to provide.
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So I'm like, Oh, whatever. I just worked through the pain and kept doing it. Then another, uh,
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position opened up, um, doing a driving job. So I'm a picker driver, basically, or it's a class
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three vehicle with a crane for a local construction company, a commercial construction company here.
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So they hired me about six weeks ago and that's who I'm currently working for now. So it's a little
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bit better pay. It's not as hard on my, on my arms, my hands, but you know, again,
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it's still not as good for our family life as, as the airport job was. Obviously we talked about,
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um, you know, many kids that have a bit of special needs. Um, so it's hard on my wife,
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the fire job, a lot of my schedule for me to be home a lot more to help her out, you know,
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she homeschools and then, um, you know, so I was home a lot more and, um, it was just better for us,
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better for our family life. Now I'm, I'm away a lot more. I'm not making as much money.
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I'm not that the money is bad, but, um, you know, I've had to give up a career though,
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like that. And that's different. You know, people though, you know, I worked over 12 years as a
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firefighter. Right. And so that was a career path that I was on. I was trained for it. I have,
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you know, I have qualifications for it. So now it's like starting at square one again,
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when you're 46 years old and people say, well, why wouldn't you go and just get another fire job?
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Well, I'm not firefighting is very competitive. It's not like if I have a business degree,
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when I get fired from a company that let's say, you know, has these vaccine mandates,
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but you, you know, like you have a business degree, you can go anywhere that looks for
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those qualifications. It's not, it's not the same sort of thing where it's firefighting is very
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niche, very competitive. You can't just go and say, I'm just going to apply for a municipal
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fire department and get it. Not only that, but being my age, physically, I'm not in as good
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a shape as I used to be. And that's part of usually an application process, right? For a fire department.
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One of the things too, is that you, you moved to get to this job. Did you not?
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Yes, I did. Yeah. Yeah. So I mean, Nola, my wife, her family was from Edmonton. So we had to
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move away from her family. So we pretty much don't have any other family here. On the other hand,
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you know, I don't regret moving, but I did move for the job, but I also moved to be closer to our
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church community. So, you know, I think it's providential that we moved here. Everything
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is providential. Everything happens for a reason. So we'll see what happens, right? We'll see where
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we're going. Let's get to that because while God might make good of it, it doesn't excuse
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what your employers did to you. And they might've been forced. Ultimately, Trudeau did. But let's get
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to the other side of the story as well. I would love to hear what the reaction is from your wife
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and from your kids to what you've done. Um, well, like, like I said earlier, my wife was really
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supportive. She knew it was coming, you know, but she, her take was that it's hard. It's going to be
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hard. It's going to be hard on me. And it has been, has been especially hard on my wife. She's had to
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have had to given up, you know, a lot by me being away more often now, maybe not as available for her
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anymore. Um, my wife's got fibromyalgia too. So it's like, there's, there's health issues in the
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family that, that, um, you know, affect our day-to-day life. And so me and my schedule allowing
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me to be home more often. It wasn't kind of like luxury thing. It wasn't just, oh, look at me. It was,
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it allowed me to do more around the home to take more off. Yeah. Take a load off of her, uh, help
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with the kids. Um, and on just so many aspects. So she knew that going into this, that she would
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be sacrificing a lot. And in many ways, it's been a bigger sacrifice on her than it has been on,
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on me. I mean, but it's been hard on all of us. Um, you know, but at the same time, she said, well,
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okay, you're giving up the job, you're giving up the time off, you're giving up the pay.
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But, um, we don't know that if you took this, what would happen? If you, if you are disabled from
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it, then you're still going to give up your career. You're still going to not be able to work
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in that industry, but not only that particular job, that industry, if something happens, if you
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get a stroke, if you get a heart attack, if you have seizures now that are ongoing, which you see
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happening all over the place. Um, so you can't really replace your health. You know, you can get
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another job and I have been able to do that. Um, even though it's been detrimental in certain aspects
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to my health, obviously, um, these are not life-threatening injuries. These are just injuries
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I kind of have to like put up with and, um, and, and power through. But her, her main point was that
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if I had become permanently disabled, I still wouldn't be there for her. I still wouldn't be
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there for the family. And then I wouldn't be able to get, you know, it would limit me even further in
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the future. Right. And who would have paid for that? You know, there was never any clear indication.
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If you got injured by one of these vaccines, was my employer going to pay for that? Was the airport
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going to pay for that? Was Trudeau government going to pay for that? I don't know. Right. Not unclear.
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Our insurance company is going to pay for that. You hear a lot of stories popping up that no
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insurance companies are not paying for that. So what they're saying, ultimately it was still your
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choice, you know, because, you know, coerce will coerce you, coerce you, coerce you, but ultimately
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it's still your choice. Really? How much of a choice is it when you have to give up everything
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you've worked for your entire life or your, you know, your ability to earn a living? That's not much
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of a choice. So yeah, exactly. Um, have your kids mentioned anything or said anything about this?
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Um, my daughter's a little bit confused. I mean, she knows, um, we believe, and I'm not,
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I'm not going to, she's never been formally diagnosed. So I don't like saying, uh, you know,
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coming out and saying these absolute statements, but from all the research we've done, you know,
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we would think that she leans more, uh, a lot into the Asperger's, um, category, right? So
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she has a certain understanding, but all that she knows is now I'm not home as much anymore.
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And it's been hard on her. Um, one of the benefits of moving down here is that we're fairly close to
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the Rockies and on our days off, you know, I would take that time. I'd take my daughter,
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sometimes just me and my daughter and we'd go on a lot of hikes in the mountains. And that was kind
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of like our time, right. Or that was her time to get away. Um, you know, get away from the house.
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Um, and just be alone with me and her, we still do that, but it's a lot less frequently. So
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she's had to give up on that. Um, you know, and that's one of the things like she, we didn't have
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that in Edmonton, you know, we didn't have the ability to do those sort of things. You're a lot
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limited in the activities you can do up there. Uh, so that was a very big bonus for her when we
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moved down here. And so we can tell that's hard on her not being able to get out as much anymore.
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Cause that was kind of like one thing that she relied on. Right. Um, yeah. What are your plans
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right now in terms of fighting back against this? Well, um, we, we were unionized, uh, that was
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through PSAC. The problem is that we had just become unionized because about a year prior to,
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uh, to the mandates coming out. So there's no collective bargaining agreement. They're still
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in negotiations right now. So since they're still in the middle of negotiations, it kind of made the
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whole thing a little bit more tricky. Um, but I did file for a grievance or I made it aware to my
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union as soon as they rejected my religious exemption that I would be filing a grievance against it.
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And I was fired anyway. Well, anyway, the union appointed a lawyer, uh, to me. So the, I am
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working with a lawyer. I think we're currently in arbitration right now. Uh, we tried to do a
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mediation session. This was about a week or two ago with the employer. Um, that didn't go very well.
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Um, so the employer kind of didn't, they, their stance was that they had it imposed on them and it was,
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you know, they were putting a rock in a hard place and it would have been financially a burden for them
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to support me. Um, and I said, well, it's still, you still could have honored my exemption, you know?
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So that was my, my case. I understand that you were put in this situation when it came down from
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the federal government, but at some point you have to fight back. Right. And since I can't fight back
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directly against the federal government, I have to fight back against the employer. It was still an
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unjust, uh, um, termination in my point of view. So that's the route I'm going, you know? Uh, so
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currently in arbitration, I don't know where that's going to go. It could lead to me getting,
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either getting my job back or getting financial compensation for being unjustly let go, basically.
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Um, so Jesse, if you could rewind, would you consider taking the vaccine now knowing all that,
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you know, where it would lead you? Absolutely not. Absolutely not. It's, it's, um,
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it's, it's the vaccine itself is not a vaccine. We know that it's an mRNA treatment. Oh, at least
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that's one type. They're all connected to the abortion industry. The, um, the COVID itself, I've
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had COVID and it was, I've had flus in the past that were worse than COVID. So it doesn't warrant
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taking a vaccine, an experimental new vaccine, which there's no long-term studies for, and which,
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you know, when you look at the VAERS reports and all these, and the VAERS reports only represents a
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small percentage of things that, of the actual amounts of side effects that are going on, because
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not that many people report them. Many go unrecorded, but the numbers are so astronomically
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off the charts that there's no way I would take it. Like I would not put my life and health at risk
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for this. Right. And, and like we said before, it's not just the abortion component, although that's a
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large component. It's the fact that it can harm your health. And, you know, we are stewards, you know,
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of our own body and our own bodily health, you know, if our body's a temple of the Holy ghost,
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right. We can't do things knowingly to harm ourselves when it's unwarranted. You know,
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you have to make educated decisions on these things. And I've made, you know, I've done the
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research. I know it does not warrant taking this experimental technology. Um, so no, I would not
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take it. Um, at some point people have to stand up and they have to stand against these evil mandates
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because it sets an evil precedence. If you just roll over, you know, and do whatever they,
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they say, then what else are they going to do? What, what's the next step? Right. Right. I didn't
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serve 22 years in the military to have all our rights taken away from us. What was the point of
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it? Why did I know I knew comrades that, that died in Afghanistan. Why did they die just to have all
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our rights taken away from us over nothing? You know, um, it's really surprising and alarming that
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so many people went along with it. Although, you know, I wouldn't say willingly, I would say the
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vast majority of people went along with it because they were coerced, you know, and had these mandates
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not been in place, I would say the numbers would be a lot smaller than the amount of people that
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actually took this vaccine. Definitely. So finally, this, have you been able to recognize or see
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God's hand throughout this working with you and your family? Because it seems you suffered a lot.
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What was your thinking about our Lord's role and how he might have been there for you or not been
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there for you, uh, during this time? God's always there for you. So I don't think God's,
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you can never say that God's not there for you. Even you're in your suffering, he's there for you
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because he wants to unite your suffering to his suffering. You know, um, Father Reuter in this,
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this last Sunday, he gave an amazing, amazing, um, sermon on the sacred heart and on how the part of
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the devotion of the sacred heart is making reparation, making reparation for our sins, but also the
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indifference and lack of love that is shown to our Lord. And that he emptied himself completely on the
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cross out of love for us. And at the heart, his heart is the center of his being. And because of
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the hypostatic union, even though it's a human heart, it's hypostatically united to the word of God.
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And the heart represents love and charity. And so God is perfect charity. The sacred heart represents
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the perfect charity of God. When we suffer because he suffered completely, he emptied himself
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completely for us. His heart was pierced, right? And his blood flowed and he emptied every last drop
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of blood on the cross through his sacred heart. So, um, our suffering allows us to unite to his sacred
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heart and make reparation for the evil. And we know how the evil age we live in. And your, your,
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your, your news outlet is a perfect, perfect, you know, indication of that, that the evils that you
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cover in our society every day, which is just keep scorn and scorn and scorn on God, right?
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Now, God is all merciful, but God is also all just, right? And we know that the justice of God is going
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to fall on society soon. So the more reparation we can make in our suffering, the more we can unite our
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suffering to Christ's suffering, the more we can hasten the triumph of his sacred heart and the
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immaculate heart of Mary in the world and the conversion of sinners too, right? We don't know.
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We'll, we'll only know when we die. We might go through our entire lives, not knowing, you know,
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we look at events that happen in kind of like, we put them in a little box here as, you know,
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individual events, all this bad thing happened, but we don't know the big scale of things, right?
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Well, God can use all these evil, negative things, maybe to convert somebody. If, if you, if you,
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if you weather it with grace, maybe you win the grace as a conversion of a sinner out there,
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right? And you're not going to know this until you die. Maybe we all go to the general judgment.
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So I don't look at this as, I mean, yes, it was a negative thing. And like you said before,
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that doesn't mean we, we just roll over for evil and we let people do evil thing to us because God
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can make good come out of it. But because God can make good come out of it, it helps us to weather
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those evil things a bit better. But we still fight for justice because like we said, God is all just,
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God does not want evil people to just triumph in the world and, and good people to just lay down
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and roll over and play dead. So there's, there's two things. You have to weather that evil with grace
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and try to merit as much grace as you can from it. And two, you do have to push back and fight the evil
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because God wants you to fight because you're not only fighting for yourself, you're fighting for
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other people. You're fighting for justice. You're fighting for goodness. You're fighting for
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all those things. And we see that in the recent Roe v. Wade decision in the States that took the
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effort of pro-life movement in the States. How many years fighting, fighting, fighting, fighting,
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fighting, right? Well, God used that, God used that. And he finally, you know, he gave us a little win
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in this, this evil we're immersed in almost daily. It looks like we're surrounded by evil and he gave us
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that win, right? Because we're a faithful people. So it takes faithful people to stand up and to fight
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against evil. Right. And, and, you know, I don't care if I'm only one person. I never saw it as just
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fighting for me and fighting for my job, even though that's what I was doing. That's not only
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what I was doing, you know, and I, and I made it plain, you know, we had, um, we had a union AGM
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prior to, prior to me being let go. And I, and I said it with the union rep because, you know, it seemed
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like our union was, was very, you know, pro vaccine mandate and, you know, they would help you if you
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want it, it didn't want it, but it was almost like a reluctant help, right? All, all the official,
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you know, if you went on their website, all the official narrative was, yeah, I get it. Cause
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it's good. It's protecting. I'm like, okay, whatever. Anyway, I made it very clear. I was
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stating my case that I didn't believe in the policy. I didn't believe in the mandates, but it wasn't only
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for me. It was for all the other firefighters. Cause I knew there were other firefighters there that
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didn't want it and only got it because they were coerced, but why should they have had to even
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had to make that decision? What about any health issues that they're going to go through? Uh,
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maybe because of it. And now that they get boosted of all, if they bring in a mandate to get boosted,
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you know, what happens when all of a sudden, you know, and yes, we can see a lot of the mandates
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falling maybe because that's good people that are pushed back, but if no one had pushed back,
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maybe, you know, you would have to get boosted every, every year. Otherwise, you know, you're not up to
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date on your vaccines. Then every boost you get, you're, you're putting yourself out there for a
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risk of some very extremely negative side effects. Right. So I was never just fighting for myself.
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I was fighting for my fellow firefighters. It's fighting against the policy and society at large.
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You shouldn't, it should just, we shouldn't just let this go unchecked. Right. Um,
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yeah, you, sir, are a soldier. You've been one for many years, both in the army as a firefighter for
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the army or the military. Um, and you've kept going fighting for Canada, despite the suffering.
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God bless you, Jesse DaCosta. Thanks, John. It was very, uh, it was a pleasure meeting you. It's
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a pleasure being on your show. And I hope that if anything, I can, maybe my story helps other
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people that are in such similar situations, knowing that, you know, God will take care of you. Right.
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Um, yes, sometimes you feel like it's, it's, it's an uphill battle and it is, but God will look out
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for you when you have to trust in that. Right. Amen to that. Yeah. And God bless all of you. And we'll