US military is purging conservative Christians who object to abortion-tainted vaccines. Here's proof
Summary
Is the U.S. military trying to purge conservative Catholics, conservative Christians, from the military? It s an interesting question. And when you see what the military is doing with the Vax mandate, this abortion-tainted vaccine that they re trying to force on everyone, oh no, they re not. You re going to see the evidence for that right in this episode of the John Henry Weston Show with Navy Commander Rob Green and his military lawyer, Davis Juntz.
Transcript
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Is the U.S. military trying to purge conservative Catholics, conservative Christians from the
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And when you see what the military is doing with the vax mandate, this abortion-tainted
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vaccine that they're trying to force on everyone, oh, no, not force.
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You're going to see the evidence for that right in this episode of the John Henry Weston
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We're going to be speaking with Navy Commander Rob Green and his military lawyer, Davis
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If you'd like to help out Commander Green and Davis Juntz, the lawyer and the clients
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that he is dealing with, please support the LifeFunder that we've set up for them.
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Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.
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In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.
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Commander Rob Green and lawyer Davis Juntz, welcome to the program.
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Before the show, I told everybody a little bit about you, Rob, a little bit about your
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background, and a little bit about your cause right now, but I'd like to, if you could give
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Tell us a little bit about your family as well.
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I've been fighting alongside him for a while, so this is great.
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But I am a Catholic, traditional Catholic, pro-life Catholic, and my wife and I, we've been pro-life.
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We've been fighting for Catholic causes in our private lives, and I have tried to take
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I've never had an issue where my conscience has been violated by what I've been asked to
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do by the service, but with the rollout of the vaccine mandates for the military, that
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is where things started to get questionable for me, and I had to do more research.
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I have a responsibility to six children and a number seven on the way to raise them right,
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to teach them what's right, and to stand up for what's right, even if no one else will.
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So I was surprised, appalled, as I started to learn of the egregious violations of the
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constitution, of law, of military regulation being done in trying to enforce these vaccine
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I initially communicated internally, communicating to my chain of command.
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It was emails, then memorandums, then eventually complaints filed internally to the Navy to point
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out problems that we were seeing, issues that we were having.
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And I had a bunch of sailors, service members, communicating to me issues that they were having,
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And we've seen all kinds of crazy things, things like service members being restricted
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from traveling if they're unvaccinated, service members not being given medical treatment if
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We were seeing, and I have a lieutenant, a chaplain lieutenant who was denied the right to travel
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from his training location to his ultimate duty station.
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And he, his pregnant wife, and their three children have been stuck in a hotel room for
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14 weeks, waiting on the Navy to tell them that they can move.
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And so these are the kind of things that I said, we have to stop this.
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And so I got involved, began communicating with other service members in similar situations.
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And that is where I was released by a separate whistleblower, a document proving that the Navy
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was violating constitutional rights law and regulation, and how they were adjudicating
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religious accommodation requests for service members who, due to their conscience, were not
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Now, we want to get to those documents in a minute, but something you said there is horrifying.
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So this one chaplain fellow who's left in the hotel for 14 weeks, do you have any other
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examples of that kind of, I mean, they say they're not forcing you to take the vaccine,
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but if they're doing that kind of stuff, are there any other examples that you can give
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of that kind of harassment to basically force people to take the vaccine?
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One of the special operations members, traumatic brain injury from recent deployment, worked
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for the service, and they denied him the right to go get medical treatment because he was
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We've seen service members in all branches lined up, some of them daily, berated by their
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senior enlisted leaders to go do something that violates their conscience.
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Their religious accommodations were ignored, and many times the religious accommodations
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were the things that instigated some of these violations.
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And so we're seeing a leadership in the service abandoning the things that we were all taught,
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taking care of junior sailors, and that's why I felt I had to get involved.
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And then the lack of response to my various emails, memorandums, complaints, many of them
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Several of them dismissed days before I was ultimately fired, which I'm sure we'll get
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Those kinds of things are why my wife and I discerned that we do have to speak up and why
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One of the things in your case, which is filed, that is most stupendous is the evidence that
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Not only is there, which seems evident from the documents that you point to, not only is
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there just a pretense of allowing the religious exemptions to be applied for, but they never
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But there's actually, as you've discovered, a standard operating procedure whereby it proves
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And worse than that, they're trying to pull the wool over the American public's eyes or
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somebody's eyes to make believe that they're actually taking this stuff seriously when the
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documents seem to prove beyond any shadow of a doubt that there's no taking this seriously
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If you don't mind, just go through what the documents outline.
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The standard operating procedure that I received, it was written by the deputy chief of naval
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operations in one, that's the administrative office for the Navy.
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They are responsible for adjudicating all Navy religious accommodation requests.
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Now, what they did is they actually documented their process and it's written to the staffer
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So it's not, you know, the vice admiral personally going and receiving documents and adjudicating
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things, but to the staffer, how do you handle these?
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And one of the very first steps when they receive a request to not receive a COVID-19 vaccination,
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they immediately pull a template up and put the name of the requester in the denial template
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And then once that is reviewed by all the various offices, they then prepare a document to the
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vice admiral for him to sign disapproving the religious accommodation request.
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Now, everything is clean, packaged, you know, nice bow on it.
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And at that point, that's when they begin the review of what's in the document, which law
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requires them to do and military regulation requires them to do.
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So it does absolutely to me look like it is, and I use the word fraudulent in my complaint,
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my internal complaint, which so far has been ignored by the Navy, which is why we're talking.
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I actually sent that to the House and the Senate Armed Services Committee to try to get attention
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But in the meantime, Davis and I are talking about that.
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But more importantly than that, he's a brother in Christ, Air Force reservist as well, Lieutenant
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I can speak to my own story, my own experience, what I've seen, what I've done on the Navy side.
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But he can certainly bring it home for everything else that he's experienced with all his other
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While we're speaking, you know, we're showing our audience the actual documents, the fact that they
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start off with a denial, they're prepping the rejection of your exemption papers.
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Give us, first of all, your take on this document from a legal perspective.
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Does this look like what we're, with layman's eyes, we look at and see, oh, my gosh, this
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Is that like, you know, is this a slam dunk case or where do you think this is going?
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When we look at it, the first thing we can do is, you know, I'm here speaking in my private
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But I can say, based on my experience on active duty in the reserves, I've reviewed
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And before I met Rob, what I was hearing over and over again were these concerns raised.
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I spoke to two different Navy Reserve officers who had their accommodation denied before they
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In other words, they told their command, I'm going to submit a religious accommodation.
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That memo you're talking about was auto-generated.
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And so their accommodation was denied before they'd officially submitted it.
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You have it going on in all the branches of the service.
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You have all of these things going on leading up to actually these documents being publicly
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released by, I believe, two or three whistleblowers within the Navy who publicly released these
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Praise God, they got into the hands of people like Rob and could be put to good use in this.
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But yes, I mean, I can't say it much better than the judge in Texas did in calling it theater.
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It's being done to give a pretense to a process.
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But the reality is the intent all along, we've certainly seen it in the Navy documented most
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It's been for political or whatever reasons, we are going to deny these requests.
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And I will even take it a step farther and say what's mind-blowing about this is, you know,
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God got me involved with this case because of a couple of pastors and a group of Navy SEALs.
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I'm a pastor elder myself, a volunteer pastor elder at my church.
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And just through the grace of God, knowing a Christian attorney who specialized in constitutional
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law, I ended up sitting with dozens of Navy SEALs, strong Christian men of faith, Catholics
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and Protestants and pastors, and just being, having their hearts poured out.
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But we were looking, we were seeking this information.
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I was submitting Freedom of Information Act requests to the Air Force, to the Navy.
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These documents still aren't being released through those normal processes.
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So from the beginning, and I think Rob can verify this, nothing about this has felt normal
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or has felt usual when we talk about the military's reaction to the pandemic as a whole, but also
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And we could take story after story of just the egregious things that we've seen happen.
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But it began with trying to force military members to take the vaccine, restricting leave,
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telling Navy members they were restricted to the ship 14 days prior to departure on a deployment
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There were even units in the Navy where if one person on an entire ship out of an entire crew
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refused to get the vaccine, they would all be required to be confined to the ship for 14 days
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Another thing that the Navy did repeatedly at repeated installations throughout the pandemic
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was if you were not vaccinated, you were not permitted to attend a religious service.
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And they specifically said public gatherings to include religious services in those.
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So, I mean, I know personally a Navy officer who after 18 years resigned, just simply resigned
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over that policy because he raised all the issues internally and they didn't.
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So, you know, to say that we're coming here and Rob and I come here and we're talking about
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the vaccine mandate and the way it's handled, there's a history leading up to this where
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we've seen trouble coming when it comes to religious freedom in the military.
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And we just, you know, we keep praying every day that God will reveal the truth, that people
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They'll pray for us, but they'll rally behind us in the court of public opinion.
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The funny part about this is that the SOPs are a joke.
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But the sad reality is the torture that this is doing to good men and women who serve the
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And how is the leadership thinking they're doing this when they are sworn an oath to
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protect the Constitution and the rights of Americans, and yet they themselves are denying
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those rights to the very men and women who have given their lives to serving the country.
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I've never seen anything like this before when we talk about this level.
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And military members do not give up their constitutional rights by joining the military.
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I mean, it would be absurd to think that we swear an oath to support and defend the Constitution.
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Of course, we don't give up our basic fundamental constitutional rights.
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But this is, you know, we need to be aware and we need to be advocating for a full understanding
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Whether it's Catholic or Protestant, your faith, John Henry, Rob's faith, my faith, impacts
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And the military now seems to be operating where even for the chaplains in the military,
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But don't act on them, or don't allow them to color what you do, because if you do, you
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And, you know, again, there's so many examples that Rob and I could get into.
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But, you know, one, a Navy chaplain, I represent an Air Force chaplain.
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Filed properly a religious accommodation request, denied in the same boilerplate, the same exact
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memorandum that all my other clients receive, the names and dates are changed, that's it.
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And now he's given an order, get the vaccine within five days or face punishment under the
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And so today I'm working on a response for him to career-ending punishment as a chaplain.
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And what's so crazy about this is he will lose his ability to minister and to shepherd and be a
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pastor to people if he violates his conscience in this way.
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He will lose his ability to stand in front of parishioners and to continue to have an ecclesiastical
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endorsement if he gets this vaccine, yet this is the place that the military is going.
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So it's a very difficult time from that perspective for military members, but praise God, all praise
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Even those that have gotten the vaccine, who have made that choice, and others during this
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time, I think Rob and I have seen a lot shake their heads and say, this is wrong.
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There are people, I think, that are going to refuse to get the booster when the military
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So there is hope there, and I do think that the Bible and God's word will reign supreme
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Let me ask you, can you give us, you mentioned you were fired.
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These are the costs of standing up for your conscience rights, standing up for the rights
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Explain to us what happened there and the cost to your family.
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At the beginning of all this, I had a lot of trepidation.
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I can't possibly violate my conscience and go along with this.
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Knowing what I know and seeing everything we just talked about happening around me,
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We have historical examples that led up to Nuremberg trials that we cannot say, oh, it's
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So for me, there was a couple weeks of fear and trepidation.
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I will say that it was my wife, a very incredibly strong person, absolutely fearless.
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She was the one who kind of led me to, you know, you can't fear.
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And it was kind of eye-opening when I looked around and I said, you know, you're absolutely
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And for those, as Davis mentioned, for those who, you know, were coerced, those who were
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harassed, we're going to stand in ranks with you and you don't have to get the boost.
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And when I gave it up to God and I put that to prayer and spent time and adoration over
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that, and it was eye-opening, it was releasing, it helped me to make sure that I could focus
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Davis can attest to the fact that the timing of everything has worked to God's greater glory
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And in doing that, the Navy continued to give me orders, continued to say, you must be vaccinated
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You know, you must pass these particular sets of orders along.
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You must do, there's a number of things that I would immediately write another complaint
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back up on whatever they sent me and said, no, this violates my conscience.
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And so, you know, poor Davis had to see all of my various filings over, you know, months
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as I continued to hit back at everything I saw.
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But the fear was gone because it was completely God's fight.
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And so eventually what that led to, there was a policy.
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And I know that I'm going to let Davis speak to policies in general, but for this particular
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So the Navy decided to institute a policy where only the unvaccinated were subject to continual
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And I was the executive officer of my squadron.
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I had an entire suite where I was basically alone in my own office, was alone and could
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follow every good, you know, healthy protocol that, you know, that we could.
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It's against the unvaccinated and I cannot participate in it.
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And so I filed another religious accommodation to remove myself from having to follow that
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I was ordered by my chain of command to not enter my own building.
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And also in the course of being banned, I was told that I could not adequately or successfully
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do my job as the executive officer if I could not be in the building.
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So I would drive to work in the winter weather and sit outside in my car.
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And I just feel bad for some of my team members who had to come out and see me or talk to me
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And then several of my complaints were, and these were complaints that we haven't aired for
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this yet, but several of those complaints were dismissed.
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And it was only a few days after that, that I was ultimately fired.
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And the reasoning that I was for why I was not fired was lost in confidence and my ability
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to do my job because I couldn't get in the building, which they banned me from.
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So it's almost humorous if it wasn't so tragic for the implications of what they are trying
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to coerce the military for now into doing and ultimately the American people.
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One of the interesting things about being forced to go outside and be cold, that's nothing
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I was speaking to someone from the military just the other day, and they told me that
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the testing that is forced to do, sometimes they make people line up for, make members
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line up for, and they can wait out there for a very long time to be tested.
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How often did they require this kind of testing?
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So the policy for the Navy is weekly, you have to demonstrate a negative test.
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And is that done at some kind of central location or something like that?
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They have allowed people to do that via self-home test.
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Davis, if you would just give us what's really going on there in the military, and perhaps
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also some broader picture of what's really happening.
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And do you see any end point to this, some kind of either resolution, or do you see this
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I will start with what my clients like Rob and other clients have seen in the military.
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And I don't say this lightly, but over the past several years, we have seen a rise in
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just an almost, I don't want to say hatred, but I would say a clear discrimination against
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people of traditional Orthodox faith, whether we're talking about conservative Catholics or
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We've just seen a rise of that in the military.
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And I say this, I mean, it is clear that the military has attempted to just more and
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more narrowly define what religious faith is and what the exercise of religious faith
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is for conservative Catholics and for conservative Protestants.
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At the same time, whether it's the Air Force Academy or other things, we see an increasing
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approval of religious accommodations for things like, for example, a Norse neo-pagan that believes
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Those religious accommodations have been approved.
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And so there are things where you could just shake your head and say, I don't understand
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why are these definitions getting broader and broader for certain religious positions,
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but yet conservative Catholics and conservative Protestants, biblical Catholics and Protestants are
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being attacked and put into a very, very narrow lane.
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And that includes chaplains, that includes JAGs and others, military lawyers that are put in
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And even the extremism training, the anti-extremism training that's gone on in the military,
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the training that I was forced to be a part of essentially said, if you believe in something
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so sincerely that you would give your life for it or that you are totally committed to it,
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such that you would do things that other people would normally not do, then you meet the definition
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If we're serious about our oath to support and defend the Constitution of the United States,
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we're swearing an allegiance to a Constitution to do that.
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So all of that is the background that we see in the military as to where this is coming.
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And I think the same is true of society as a whole.
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I think that there is a desire for society to define religion as narrowly as possible
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and to try to turn things that are deeply held points of religious faith for us into some
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sort of a political or a partisan issue, whether it's a pro-life issues, the sanctity of human
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life issues or others, that's a marriage issues.
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I think we see society trying to turn into something other than religious or even turning
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The military will always be, in some respects, a microcosm of society.
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And often, political leaders will use the military as an experimentation tool, right, as a control
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group for experimentation when it comes to social and other issues, even medical experiments
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So I got involved in this because a group of Navy SEALs stood up and said, not only are
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we opposed to this mandate because there isn't an ethically produced vaccine that isn't tied
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to fetal cells and abortions, but even beyond that, we fear what this means.
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If we stand by and allow the government to mandate unconstitutionally, illegally, and against
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the faith and belief that we're created in the image of God, if we allow that, when does it end?
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So it all began there, and I think that carries over into society.
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So big picture, John Henry, what I will say is this, and praise God for it.
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Originally, when this mandate was rolled out, and Rob can attest to this, the threat from the military,
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the threat from the Navy was, if you say no, we'll court-martial you.
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We could throw you in jail, and we're going to give you a dishonorable or a bad conduct discharge,
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punitive discharges that can only be punishments from a court-martial.
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Those were the threats, repeated over and over and over again.
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We're going to court-martial you if you refuse this.
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People like Rob, people like the Navy SEALs stood up.
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And so the military has caved in large part on this issue.
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So now we have moved from you may be locked up, you may be going to the brig,
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to you're going to receive potentially an honorable discharge.
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So you're going to receive adverse action or potentially an honorable discharge.
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So there's some good news in that because public opinion has shifted,
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People like Rob, even myself, I have 19 years of service.
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In the military, your retirement is all or nothing, right?
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The retirement system that Rob and I are under,
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you either get to 20 and qualify for retirement or you don't.
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And so there are serious, significant financial consequences.
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Beyond that, just, you know, Rob and I share a love for our country,
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So there are significant consequences, significant things that military members are giving up to take this stand.
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And that's what, you know, our brothers and sisters outside of the military are being asked to do and forced to do as well.
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I do think there's opportunity for revival in this.
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And I do think when documents like what Rob was able to provide to the litigation in Texas come forward, it comes clear.
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I mean, it comes clear to anyone that sees it as long as their eyes are not blinded.
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The truth of this, that it is theater, that it has been a ruse.
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They're ignoring the law for whatever reason, military leaders are doing that.
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One of the things I wanted to address with you guys is the possibility of this going south, as they say, or much further south with a possible coming military conflict.
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We know that Russia and Ukraine are in the news.
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There is such a thing as a presidential waiver.
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If one of you could explain what that is, how that might impact, and what that would mean for people like Rob and the rest of those heroically fighting against the vaccine mandate inside the military.
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So one of the big issues we've had with the vaccine mandate, and it holds true with the testing as well, is because of past just horrors that our government has done and other governments have done to military members, our government cannot force military members to take an experimental drug or an experimental medical treatment.
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So when these vaccines came out and they received emergency use authorization, the military cannot force any of us to take it.
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The problem is there is a provision in the law where the president of the United States could waive that in rioting and force military members to take an experimental use vaccine or medical treatment.
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Instead, one of the things that the military tried to do was to try to say that the vaccines that are available are interchangeable with the common already FDA approved vaccine.
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The truth of the matter, and I've spoken on this, it's part of litigation that's out there publicly, but I've spoken on this before.
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That's simply not true when you look at the ingredients of the vaccines.
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But even further, there's no common already being produced in the United States.
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And so what is available to military members, and we've gone as far as to verify vial numbers and lots, is emergency use authorization vaccines.
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I have yet to have a military installation show us that they have FDA approved vaccine available.
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So that question that you asked when you say that, it's a huge and significant question here, because just like the shell game with setting up political theater to deny all religious accommodations or not give religious accommodations a fair shake.
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From the beginning, we've seen a level of what appears to be dishonesty from the Department of Defense with regard to emergency use authorization versus actually FDA approved vaccines, which is a significant issue.
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When we start talking about Nuremberg code for me as a JAG, for any military officer to have to question whether or not our leadership is issuing an unlawful order when it comes to medical treatment.
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Very, very, very significant, very, very, very significant, very, very, very, very, very significant, very, very big deal.
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And I will say, and I don't say this lightly, the Department of Defense and Department of Justice in one of the ongoing cases in Florida actually admitted in court documents,
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Yes, when we issued this order and said that the Pfizer vaccine is interchangeable with the FDA approved vaccine, we were we we were wrong.
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What we really meant is anything produced after that that's produced in the right lab, even if it's labeled Pfizer, could still meet the requirements.
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So, you know, I don't say any of this lightly, but that's a significant legal issue that we still have going on.
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If President Biden were to issue that waiver approval in writing, it would take one legal issue off the table.
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But under the Constitution, under military regulations, under federal law, under the Religious Freedom Restoration Act, we still as military members could apply for a religious accommodation.
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So it doesn't change that part of it, but it does change sort of the legal landscape very significantly.
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There's going to be a lot of people who are extremely alarmed at what's going on, who want to support you, who want to know what we can do.
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We want to give back. We want to be able to support you. How do we do that?
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Well, there's definitely there's a couple of ways to do it.
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First of all, the most important way, word of mouth, get the word out there.
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We are actively being suppressed by social media, by the tech giants.
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And there's a couple of 501c3s that are heavily involved.
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Stand with warriors is one. Davis can speak to that very well.
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Another one is the Truth for Health Foundation.
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They have taken a significant stand with us as well.
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And I know that you're aware of them and what they do.
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And so I would I would say, get out there, do that, because what's going to happen,
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what they're trying to do is purge the military of men and women of conscience,
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the ones who would stand up, even if they're told that they're going to be punished,
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that some punitive action is going to be taken.
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If everyone left is coercible, if everyone left is malleable, I do not know where this heads.
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And as an American citizen, I'm going to keep doing that.
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I'm going to keep getting the word out however I can.
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And I call on everybody else, all your viewers and listeners to to please help us spread the word.
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And I'll let Davis say a few words on that, too.
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Pray for a renewal of an appreciation for for biblical justice and biblical law in our country.
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That's the that's the most important thing that that anyone can do.
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Go to your your congressmen, your your senators.
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Do not let up in reaching out and just persistently asking what are they going to do?
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When we talk about these fights, you have tremendous organizations, legal and otherwise, that are fighting hard to make a difference here and to take care of military members.
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So the one that that I started working with that was formed to help Navy SEALs is called Stand with Warriors, standwithwarriors.org.
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They've helped connect us to media, to political leaders.
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There's sample letters to congressional leaders that they can pull from there, get updates as well as donate to help.
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Truth for Health Foundation, Dr. Vliet and her team has been wonderful as well.
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And so, you know, they have an important mission.
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They're bringing medical providers to the fight as well and just approaching it that way.
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So those are two ways that two great organizations that I can say have been helpful directly to people like Rob and myself in this battle.
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Gentlemen, I want to thank you on behalf of LifeSite and our readership and viewership for your service to the country.
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But even more importantly, you're standing strong for faith, for family and for freedom.
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We'll see you next time on The John Henry Weston Show.
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