The John-Henry Westen Show - Was the rise of communism foretold in Blessed Emmerich's vision of Satan 'unchained'？

00:00:00.000 Many of them have said that the most vexing wound that they had, that a lot of people don't even

00:00:04.260 think about, don't even see because it doesn't bleed like the other wounds, is the shoulder

00:00:08.380 wound that Christ had from carrying the cross. Christ told them that that was the most vexing

00:00:13.880 wound that caused him the most pain.

00:00:23.940 Hey, my friends, there's something really neat. You know, the stigmatists, you've heard this

00:00:28.380 before the, you know, they have the wounds of Christ in their hands and feet and side

00:00:32.180 and so on. Well, there's only been not too many of those since Jesus Christ himself. And

00:00:38.020 you've heard of Padre Pio, I'm sure, but there's a really neat thing about them. A lot of them

00:00:45.200 have done a lot of the same things and predicted a lot of the same things. A lot of these ones,

00:00:50.700 especially the ones approved, have all sorts of prophecies. Wonder if heaven would be telling

00:00:56.560 us a message through that very thing. Prophecies about the future, prophecies that look like

00:01:01.440 they're right now. To speak with us about this is the author of, well, many books, 20 books. In fact,

00:01:09.120 he's a New York Times bestselling author. He is a professor at the Grove City College in Grove City,

00:01:16.720 Pennsylvania. And he's the new author of a book out by 10 called The Stigmatists. You're going to want

00:01:22.800 to stay tuned to this episode of The John Henry Weston Show.

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00:02:02.260 Paul Kangar, so good to be with you.

00:02:04.020 The great John Henry, it is good to be with you. So I'm a longtime reader of LifeSite News and I watch

00:02:09.960 many of your podcasts and I check the site frequently several times a week. So it's good to be on with you.

00:02:16.080 Thanks.

00:02:16.400 Praise God. Well, let's begin with the sign of the cross. In the name of the Father and of the Son

00:02:21.160 and of the Holy Ghost. Amen. So Paul, you've got a very fascinating book here. I'm particularly

00:02:27.240 fascinated because of the prophetic element, which actually figures in largely to the book.

00:02:32.240 First of all, if you can, give us the first description. What is a stigmatist anyway?

00:02:36.900 Yeah. And I knew, by the way, that you would probably be interested in the prophetic element.

00:02:41.380 No question about that. In fact, a lot of the reporting on LifeSite News deals with a lot of

00:02:46.000 this kind of stuff. But yeah, first with in terms of what stigmatists are. So these are people who

00:02:52.160 bear in their body the marks of Jesus Christ and the passion. And typically these will be nail marks

00:02:59.020 in the hands and the palms, also in the feet, often in the side. In some cases, the crown of thorns.

00:03:05.580 And in some cases, too, I mean, not everybody, John Henry has all of the wounds, right? And I mean,

00:03:11.100 nobody has like everything that Jesus had, right? I mean, that would be all kinds of marks all over

00:03:16.460 your body. But it would be some portion of the suffering that identifies with Christ's passion.

00:03:23.060 For example, St. Rita of Kasia was gifted, as she put it, with one single thorn from the crown of

00:03:30.840 thorns. That's all that she had. Others have had, and this is quite interesting, many of them have

00:03:36.540 said, Therese Newman, Anne Catherine Emmerich, a number of others, that the most vexing wound that

00:03:42.780 they had that a lot of people don't even think about, don't even see because it doesn't bleed like

00:03:46.420 the other wounds, is the shoulder wound that Christ had from carrying the cross. And many of

00:03:53.320 them being mystics who had conversations with Christ or claimed to, right? Christ told them that

00:03:59.600 that was the most vexing wound that caused him the most pain. So even though it didn't protrude

00:04:04.600 blood like the others. And when you think about it, you know, Jesus told us that if you want to

00:04:10.600 follow me, pick up your cross and follow me. I think, you know, from a kind of theological point

00:04:17.120 of view, that one is particularly profound, right? That that would be the wound that would vex them the

00:04:24.460 most. The first stigmatist, everyone believes that it was St. Francis. And, you know, you and I are

00:04:30.100 talking in 2024. We just marked the 800th anniversary of Francis receiving the stigmata.

00:04:36.520 That would have been September 17th, 1224. But in Galatians, the Apostle Paul says, I bear in my

00:04:44.180 body the marks of Jesus Christ. That's in Galatians. And the Greek for that is stigmata.

00:04:50.400 Some people think, well, metaphorically, he's talking about being scourged, being flogged,

00:04:55.600 being shipwrecked, you know, that famous passage. But others say, well, it could mean that he's saying

00:05:01.480 that he has markings in his body like Jesus.

00:05:04.960 Particularly when he says this, you know, he asks our Lord to remove the thorn in his side.

00:05:11.860 And maybe that's what it is.

00:05:12.960 Yeah, exactly. It's exactly right. And Anne Catherine Emmerich and Therese Newman, who neither one are saints

00:05:19.760 in the book, I tried to focus on saints, although I do do a chapter on Blessed Anne Catherine

00:05:25.040 Emmerich. So they're both in the process of potential hopeful canonization. But they were

00:05:29.780 two of the most remarkable mystics in the history of the church. They could, they had had not only

00:05:34.160 prophecies, but they claimed incredible visions of things in the past, in the life of Jesus,

00:05:39.760 the life of the Blessed Mother. Anne Catherine Emmerich's visions were inspired. Mel Gibson's

00:05:44.960 passion, the number of the scenes in the passion. They both claimed to be able to see St. Paul.

00:05:51.340 And they both told their spiritual directors, oh yeah, Paul was the first.

00:05:56.320 Paul was the first stigmatist. I've seen the wounds. And then after that, it was Francis.

00:06:01.820 And I've seen Francis's wounds. So you have this long period from first century with Paul to

00:06:08.980 Francis in the year 1224 of not any stigmatists that we know of. And some might say, well, maybe

00:06:16.200 there was some, we don't know. I bet there weren't because when these people had these wounds, I mean,

00:06:22.200 everyone knew, I mean, people came from miles around, word got around quick, you know, the little

00:06:28.940 nun in Calabria who like clockwork on a Thursday or Friday starts bleeding from her hands. And she's like, 0.96

00:06:35.520 she's having her agony in the garden. It's like, she's on the cross by three o'clock on Friday.

00:06:40.860 And then by Saturday morning, everybody watches the doctors, the psychiatrists, the spiritual

00:06:46.120 director, the priest, the bishop, and the cardinal. And there's no markings on Saturday morning at all.

00:06:52.380 Right. So word gets around. Everyone comes to see that. So the most famous, Paul, Francis,

00:06:59.500 and then Padre Pio, who's a contemporary of ours, really, I was born in 1966, he died in 1968. But

00:07:06.540 most of them have been women. 90% have been women. That's a little bit of an overview to get us

00:07:13.280 started with your first question on. It's also been studied. That's, that's where I think really

00:07:17.820 key. People have to understand the scientists go there and they filmed it. So we've got stuff on film

00:07:23.740 now. So there's, there's no way people are faking this stuff. Even some kind of Freudian

00:07:29.840 psycho, psychosomatic thing. It's not going to work this way.

00:07:35.300 One of the doubters of Padre Pio, who was a very, you know, arrogant clergy official from the Vatican

00:07:41.820 said he was in, he said, Pio needed to be studied by more trained psychiatrists like him. And he said,

00:07:48.200 I know what's going on here. Pio and his, and Father Benedetto of the, they've entered into an

00:07:55.200 incubus succubus relationship here. Right. And if we could just put plaster like a cast over the feet 0.96

00:08:03.060 and leg of Pio, you know, we could figure this out. And then another said, I know what's causing this

00:08:08.780 in Pio. It's obviously real. I mean, you couldn't make these marks and have them bleed a cup a day like

00:08:15.620 this for 50 years. This is being created by what I would diagnose as a form of auto-suggestion,

00:08:23.080 right? And Pio's like, auto-suggestion, auto-suggestion. Well, tell him to imagine that

00:08:28.440 he's a bull and let's see if he grows horns from his head. Auto-suggestion, right? I mean,

00:08:32.820 so that's the kind of thing that takes a greater leap of faith. And as you saw in the book,

00:08:36.760 I spend a lot of time quoting medical testimony in many of these cases, which I think is among the

00:08:42.840 most riveting passages in the book is you'll get these agnostic, atheistic German doctors,

00:08:49.060 right? You know, very careful, very rigid. I do not believe in the supernatural. I do not believe

00:08:55.420 in God, but this is extraordinary. The woman eats nothing but the Eucharist for what they call the 0.97

00:09:01.480 Eucharist for 40 years. She drinks only water. We give her other food. She vomits it up. This would

00:09:07.620 be Therese Newman. She's bleeding from her hands. Pio, he bleeds a cup a day. He doesn't get

00:09:12.340 infections. I don't know how it happens. This is clearly the supernatural. That's the most

00:09:16.520 remarkable thing about it. Even the skeptics become convinced that it's something that they

00:09:21.740 can't plainly explain by modern medical science. Yeah. That other aspect of some of them not eating

00:09:29.480 at all, except for the Holy Eucharist for years and years and years. Treason was what, 40 years?

00:09:34.620 Yeah, 40 years in her case. And she gained weight. In fact, she went from about 120 pounds when she was 0.99

00:09:41.360 younger to about 200 some pounds. And she was there in bed. They were usually bedridden.

00:09:47.580 Anne Catherine Emmerich ate nothing but the Eucharist the last 10 years of her life.

00:09:52.000 They couldn't get out of bed. By the way, it gets to also, too, Anne Catherine Emmerich's

00:09:55.940 incredible visions of the things that she could see in the Holy Land. I've read her volumes. I'm

00:10:00.040 always blown away by it. And for people who think, well, yeah, she went there and then came back.

00:10:05.140 No, she never left her bed, man. She never left. The visions are so detailed that it's just hard to

00:10:12.640 imagine anybody coming up or making up that sort of level of detail. Yeah. In fact, one of the world's

00:10:19.160 greatest poets, arguably the greatest world poet, Brantano, he gave up his whole life. He's sitting

00:10:27.040 there recording her visions forever and ever. It's like 3,000 pages. Incredible. But tell us about

00:10:33.980 Blessed Lucy of Narnia and her connection with Lucy from Narnia.

00:10:37.960 A lot of people don't know that that's where that's where C.S. Lewis got his idea for Lucy of

00:10:44.020 Narnia. I mean, Lucy is one of the two main female protagonists in the Narnia series. And I

00:10:50.300 remember the first time that I was in Italy and I was driving from Rome area, Trevignano, Romano up to

00:10:55.600 Assisi. And we had my friend Fabrizio, who was our guide. And we were going through this one town and

00:11:01.060 it was called Narnia. And he said, Paul, this is the, what's his name? Chronicles of Narnia,

00:11:07.320 C.S. Lewis. And I said, yeah, yeah. You know how Italians are. They think everything is created by 1.00

00:11:11.960 them, right? My mom's Italian. You can listen to that side of the family. They think Italians

00:11:16.880 in that at everything, right? And he's like, yeah, he got his idea for Narnia from here. I'm like,

00:11:21.540 yeah, right, Fabrizio. But so later I learned, yeah, he got the idea of Blessed Lucy of Narnia,

00:11:28.380 who was this incredible saint, 500, some 600 years ago. Body was incorrupt for a long time.

00:11:36.860 She was a stigmatist. And she's kind of symptomatic because most of the stigmatists,

00:11:42.880 over 90% have been women. And from a particular country of origin, over 70% have been Italian.

00:11:50.580 There's probably more Italian saints than any other particular country. But after Italy,

00:11:56.560 the stigmatists, it would be France, Germany. In modern times, more recently in the last hundred

00:12:02.700 years or so, they're coming from more parts of the world. They're more geographically diverse.

00:12:08.100 Hilaire Belloc said, the faith is Europe and Europe is the faith. Well, the faith is declining

00:12:12.580 in Europe. It's growing, you know, Asia, Africa, elsewhere. So you're getting more stigmatists

00:12:18.200 from those areas. Now you have a fascinating contrast in your book between St. Francis and

00:12:25.860 Martin Luther. Tell us about that. Yeah. I mean, I look at it as Francis being the, you know,

00:12:31.840 being the true reformer. He's the one that reformed the church. And he goes there to the,

00:12:37.180 to this broken down chapel at San Damiano. That's where the famous San Damiano cross is.

00:12:42.820 And Jesus speaks to him from, from the cross, the image of Jesus on the cross. And he says,

00:12:48.520 Francesco, repair my house, repair my church, repair la mia casa. Some say casa, some say

00:12:56.000 casa, casa is house, casa is church. And for, for it has fallen, it needs repaired. And Francis at that

00:13:02.900 point, looking around as the media is surrounding saying, oh, Jesus is telling me to rebuild this

00:13:07.040 church. So he starts rebuilding this church, the San Damiano chapel. And then later,

00:13:12.560 it becomes clear in his ultimate call that he's to help rebuild the church, capital C, uppercase C,

00:13:20.240 Chiesa, the Roman Catholic church, goes to Rome, talks to the Pope, tries to get his order recognized.

00:13:26.900 And all of a sudden you get this huge following of people who become the Franciscans, right? The

00:13:33.340 brothers minor. And you get this revolution in the church that goes from about the period.

00:13:38.320 So Francis is born in around 1180, 1181, lived for 40, 43, 44 years, and died, I think,

00:13:46.460 I think in the year 12, 1228, I believe. It's off the top of my head, but, and there's a period from

00:13:52.360 about Francis, St. Dominic is that time as well, the Dominicans, until about the end of the life of

00:14:00.060 Catherine of Siena. And she's the stigmatist on the cover of the book. She died in the year 1380.

00:14:05.240 That period from about 1170 to 1380, about 200 years, that was a golden age in the church.

00:14:12.160 I mean, Aquinas is during that period, Bonaventure, even Dante, right? Dante writes his divine comedy

00:14:19.660 during that period. But what Francis does is he reforms the church. What Luther does,

00:14:26.980 Luther does not become a reformer. He becomes a rebeller, right? He rebels. 1.00

00:14:31.980 I would call what he did, not the reformation, but rebellion. So if you want an example of true 0.98

00:14:39.140 reform, repairing the church, that's what Francis did. It's not what Luther did.

00:14:44.320 Indeed. Now, I want to get to this, but there's a couple more questions because there's lots I want

00:14:52.300 to talk to you about, about the whole prophecy bit. But before we get there, there's one other

00:14:57.580 very interesting thing here. And it is about St. Catherine of Siena. Now, you talk about how

00:15:03.160 she writes about something I never realized. She writes about homosexuality and homosexuality

00:15:11.140 in the clergy. So I think our readers would really love to know about that. You even make reference in

00:15:16.860 your book to James Wharton. Yeah, it's stunning. So in her dialogue, all right, that's her main book,

00:15:24.580 her written down conversations with God the Father, all right? I mean, in many cases. And in fact,

00:15:32.760 you can find a lot of the copies of the dialogue today. And the section on homosexuality and impurity

00:15:38.760 among the clergy is often excerpted out in modern versions. It is. And you can find a lot of examples

00:15:47.280 of this. You almost have to go online to find older editions of it. And when you read it, you'll see

00:15:53.880 why. It is very politically incorrect, what she says. And she says that God told her, he said,

00:16:02.420 I wiped out five entire cities because of the scourge of homosexuality. So God tells her that. 1.00

00:16:09.940 And he said, it is such a vile activity that even the demons flee away in disgust. The demons are happy

00:16:20.440 to lead clergy or priests or whoever into that type of immoral behavior. But then when the physical act

00:16:28.380 is taking place, the demons being fallen angels, and so originally angelic in nature, right, as Satan

00:16:35.720 certainly was, are so repulsed by it that they flee in disgust. So it is at that point in time,

00:16:44.140 they are condemning. God is condemning to her homosexuality among priests and in general among 1.00

00:16:51.420 the culture. And it has to make you think, John Henry, right, that if God was that shocked that

00:16:58.300 he was willing to wipe out five entire cities because of the sin of homosexuality, what must 1.00

00:17:03.400 he be thinking today when it's so widespread in the West, around the world, and accepted and even

00:17:09.800 celebrated? And for people that are watching this show right now and don't like what we're saying,

00:17:15.120 hey, take it up with Catherine of Siena, man. Take it up with her. Take it up with God. That's what

00:17:22.680 she's claiming. And remember, she's a doctor of the church. She's one of the few female doctors

00:17:28.320 of the church. She was a stigmatist. You probably like her because she was a strong woman. She spoke

00:17:34.760 truth to power. She told the Pope to toughen up, get out of the Avignon, quit being a wimp, 0.77

00:17:41.660 go back to Rome. Oh, but I could be killed there. I could be there. You get back there, 0.99

00:17:45.980 this little Italian woman, right? Tough, tough as nails, gets actually hidden stigmata because she begged 1.00

00:17:52.060 God not to make them public in Pisa, in Pisa, Italy, and did incredible things before dying at

00:17:58.840 the age of 33. Somebody else who lived off of nothing but the U.S. in her final days. But she

00:18:05.240 said that that's what God told her about homosexuality. So take it or leave it. 0.96

00:18:11.500 Unbelievable, too. Her story is so incredible because she was a lay woman, too. And so just

00:18:19.240 unbelievable. Anyway, lots there. But so now let's get to St. Anne or Blessed Anne Catherine

00:18:26.840 Emmerich. You have in your book, she writes that Satan will be unchained for 50 to 60 years

00:18:34.120 before the year 2000. Yeah. Okay. So how do you understand that revelation based on the history

00:18:41.120 of the world around that time? I mean, first of all, what time are we dealing with? This is St. Anne,

00:18:46.500 Blessed Anne Catherine Emmerich. And she's saying before the year 2000, there's kind of come 50 or

00:18:51.840 60 years. Satan will be unchained 50 or 60 years before that. Yeah. It's an amazing thing. And for

00:18:58.660 my Protestant brothers and sisters who are watching us right now, I'm a former Protestant. Let me start

00:19:03.640 this by quoting the book of Revelation. Okay. This is Revelation 20, one through three.

00:19:10.060 So that's in the Bible, folks.

00:19:40.060 Now, Anne Catherine Emmerich's innovation here, right, is that she was told and she lived from

00:19:45.400 1774 to 1824. So she actually died at the age of 49. So almost 50 years altogether. This is a woman

00:19:52.620 who's in a bed in Germany and she can't even get out of bed. She's bleeding so much all the time in

00:19:58.280 constant agony. And she's told in one of her visions that Satan will be unleashed from the floor of hell for

00:20:07.060 a period, quote, 50 to 60 years before the year 2000. All right. Now, she couldn't have known this

00:20:14.100 in 1820. All right. But the math on that, that would be 1940 to 1950. Wow. Okay. That is the outbreak

00:20:24.500 of World War II, deadliest war in the history of humanity. Only previous war that came close was World

00:20:29.980 War I. And there were five, six, seven times the number killed in World War II than World War I.

00:20:35.080 Holocaust, Pearl Harbor, all the deaths in America, Eastern Europe, around the world. 0.50

00:20:42.100 The war ends. Stalin, Iron Curtain descends across Europe. Eastern Europe is taken over by the 0.70

00:20:48.660 communists to begin this long period of communist occupation there. Cold War starts. 1946 to 49,

00:20:57.160 that's the Chinese Revolution. October 1949. Somehow, no one can still make sense of it. I see this as a 0.85

00:21:03.640 professor of international relations. We still can't figure out how in the world Mao Zedong defeated

00:21:07.760 Chiang Kai-shek and the communists overtook the Chinese nationalists. They take over, win 1949,

00:21:13.360 and then more people died under communist China, 60 to 70 million, than even died under Stalin's

00:21:19.400 Soviet Union during that period. So that's 1940 to 1950. That's the 50 to 60 years before the year

00:21:25.860 2000. That was her prediction. And she even said in her prediction that she was told that for a time

00:21:34.100 before that, some demons would be unleashed even earlier, including in the time that she was currently

00:21:40.260 living in. She has that prophecy in 1820. She's in Germany. Karl Marx is born May 5th, 1818,

00:21:48.260 right there in Germany. Friedrich Engels is born in 1820. These were the guys that gave you the

00:21:53.920 communist manifesto. They gave you communism. So how she could come up with, you know, that kind of,

00:22:01.660 I mean, you talk about nailing a prophecy with the timeline. That's almost uncanny to think of.

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00:22:43.420 What do you think this has to do with Leo XIII's prophecy? Remember his prophecy for which he created

00:22:49.100 the St. Michael prayer? He saw a hundred years where Satan would be given, loosed, if you will. Do you

00:22:56.820 think that has any correlation? I do. And in fact, I also quote Hildegard of Bingen, who is an

00:23:03.380 extraordinary saint as well. I think she's also a doctor of the Church, female doctor of the Church.

00:23:07.920 And she also had these visions about a thousand years and around this period. But specifically,

00:23:12.920 yeah, Leo XIII, his pontificate was 1878 to 1903. And so he has that vision right at the turn of the

00:23:21.900 century. And with the 100 years to come in the 20th century, the 20th century was the deadliest

00:23:26.780 century in the history of humanity. World War I, World War II, Cold War, China, abortion. Abortion 0.60

00:23:33.260 was first legalized among any state. Communist Russia, 1920. And by the 1970s, remember my field

00:23:42.360 of studies, actually, Russia, Cold War, communism. So it's according to official Soviet statistics.

00:23:47.460 And I know you're real big and your website on life issues, of course. According to the

00:23:52.640 Soviet health ministry, in the 1970s, in the Soviet Union, they were averaging seven to eight

00:23:59.240 million abortions per year. Seven to eight million abortions per year. Now, here in America, I mean,

00:24:07.100 we were at about a million a year. All right. They were at seven to eight million a year. And they had

00:24:12.180 even less of a population that we did. And then the other deadly countries were abortion, all the 0.89

00:24:17.740 communist countries, Cuba, China, one child policy, Romania, you name it. So all of that hell is

00:24:24.940 unleashed, unchained, if you will, in that period prophesied by Leo XIII and even earlier than him

00:24:33.500 by Anne Catherine Emmerich in Germany.

00:24:36.320 What did you make of Anne Catherine Emmerich's visions of the two popes and the relationship

00:24:41.460 between the two popes and so on?

00:24:42.940 Yeah, it's fascinating. I spent a lot of time on that. And some people think that it applied

00:24:47.940 possibly in our day to Pope Francis. I mean, it seems to probably apply to a pope in her time.

00:24:54.940 She also spoke about a counterfeit church. And I might even quote somebody from LifeSite News on that

00:25:01.340 in the footnotes. I think I do. Someone who did a really good job with it. So I don't know that

00:25:05.680 it applies to our time. But it's certainly compelling. I mean, one that I think, not to

00:25:14.360 change gears on you, that does apply to this in a really remarkable way, and so related that it's

00:25:22.520 our current day, Sister Agnes of Sasagawa, the Our Lady of Akita Seer, who is so recent that she just

00:25:29.980 died. She died in 2024. She died this past summer. She was the one who she had visions in July and

00:25:36.520 August and October 1973. And her vision, October 13th, 1973, that's the anniversary of the miracle

00:25:43.640 of the sun at Fatima. And her bishop, Bishop Ito, who later said that the faithful can indeed follow

00:25:51.380 her prophecy, her vision as being of supernatural origin. He said the message of Akita is the message

00:25:58.540 of Fatima. So she was stigmatist. A lot of people don't realize that she had stigmata while she was

00:26:04.840 having these visions. And LifeSite News has covered this. And since her death, it's a really weird thing.

00:26:10.900 They donated her body to science in Japan? You guys have covered this, John Henry. It's the first

00:26:17.640 place where I read it. Other websites have done nothing on it. And I thought, why are they donating her

00:26:23.200 body to science? She should be under glass somewhere to be checked for incorruptibility. I don't know 1.00

00:26:29.840 what all is taking place there. However, if you read Bishop Ito's investigation and formal statement

00:26:35.020 and everything, what a lot of people don't realize is she had stigmata. And her prophecy of October 13th,

00:26:40.600 1973, I think this gets to our time right now with Pope Francis. She said, there will come a time

00:26:46.260 when Bishop will be against Bishop, Cardinal against Cardinal, Clergy against Clergy. You know,

00:26:52.460 it would be this difficult time in the church. And that vision was right about the time of Pope Paul

00:26:59.480 VI, now a saint, talking about the smoke of Satan having entered the church. And she predicts that 0.72

00:27:07.180 October 13th, 1971 vision, that there will come a time of great chastisement, fire from the sky that

00:27:14.400 will be worse than the great deluge, as she puts it. That was 1973. And that seer, Our Lady of Akita,

00:27:21.900 that stigmatist, Sister Agnes of Sasagawa, just died. So this isn't somebody in 1224, like Francis.

00:27:29.800 This is 2024. Indeed. In fact, I believe it was in 2019, she put out a statement, which no one had ever

00:27:35.960 heard of her for such a long time, just about the times being severe, and we need to pray, and so on.

00:27:40.900 Just incredible things that we're actually living through. One of the ones I also wanted to

00:27:45.620 bring out for everybody, because I think it's largely unknown, that is this blessed Elena Aiello,

00:27:53.220 and these visions and letters to Mussolini. What's that all about?

00:27:57.580 Yeah, boy, I'll tell you, that one really struck me. So she was born in 1895, died in 1961. She's

00:28:03.480 another modern. I mean, in the 1960s, you had three really significant stigmatists who passed. You had

00:28:10.320 her, Therese Newman in Germany, Padre Pio in 1968. But she was this little Italian nun from Calabria,

00:28:17.600 Italy. And she really struck me because my family and my mom's side, they're from Calabria, Italy.

00:28:23.700 And I had also read on some different websites about the incredible prophecies that she had.

00:28:30.060 And then in the course of reading her prophecies, I learned that, wow, she was a stigmatist as well.

00:28:34.840 She had stigmata for a long time. She had visions in her time. Now, there's some that

00:28:39.580 are still yet to come, supposedly. But in her time, she was this seer about events in Italy in World War

00:28:47.920 II related to Mussolini. And she had Mussolini's attention in the way that Catherine of Siena had the

00:28:55.240 powers of Italy's attention. Mussolini even wrote a check to her school for girls because he was so

00:29:02.280 impressed. Mussolini's sister, who was very devout, also followed everything that Elena Aiello said.

00:29:10.680 Now, again, keep in mind, this lady, Good Friday, she's bleeding. All the people come around. 0.99

00:29:15.860 Everybody's gathered around. So word gets around. Everyone knows what's going on. This is in 1350.

00:29:22.080 This is 1940s, 50s and 60s. And she told Mussolini, she addressed him, Il Duce,

00:29:28.940 listen to me, right? I am here to tell you, there is still time for you to be a hero,

00:29:36.580 to be the man who saved Italy, who spared Italy from humiliation. And interesting, John Henry,

00:29:44.160 she said a number of times in this letter, Rome itself will be preserved because the Vatican is in

00:29:51.180 Rome. Almost like God has a dome of protection over there. But the rest of Italy will suffer terribly

00:29:58.300 if you don't stop now, if you don't stop now. And then she sends another letter, again,

00:30:04.500 through Mussolini's sister. This was around 1943. Time is running out for him. And I am here to tell you 0.52

00:30:11.560 now. I have been told, right, by God, that if you do not quickly make peace and stop cooperating

00:30:20.240 with Hitler and the Japanese, you will suffer a worse, more ignominious fate than Napoleon. 1.00

00:30:28.560 Now, Napoleon Waterloo was 1815. And then he's allowed to retire and exile to St. Helena, died in

00:30:36.480 1821. Not Mussolini. Mussolini didn't listen, didn't repent. And he gets strung up in a gas

00:30:45.520 station in Milan by the communists. And next to one of his mistresses, cut down, bodies dragged

00:30:52.520 through the streets. They spit on him, they kick him, they kick him up and down the streets. Should

00:30:57.300 have listened to the little Italian nun from Calabria. She also predicted days of darkness,

00:31:03.180 darkness, a final chastisement, a ball of fire from the sky. How many days of darkness? There's

00:31:09.300 not much written on her in the West. I had to get Italian books on her. According to the English

00:31:14.820 translation of one of these books, she predicted, quote, 70 hours of darkness, seven zero. 70 is

00:31:21.860 three days. All right. Three days of darkness. Faustina Kowalska in her diary talks about days of

00:31:28.220 darkness, but she doesn't use the number three. But Elena Aiello says basically three days of

00:31:34.420 darkness. She pegs it 70 hours. Days of darkness has also been prophesied by Faustina, who had hidden

00:31:41.260 stigmata. She of the diary. Maria Julie Jeheny, who had stigmata. She was 91 years old when she died.

00:31:48.080 She had the stigmata for like 70 some years. Blessed Anna Maria Taigi, who if you Google three days of

00:31:55.480 darkness and Wikipedia pops up, Wikipedia actually has an entry for three days of darkness. They

00:31:59.680 attributed the prophecy to her. She talks about beeswax candles and everything. And so a lot of

00:32:06.940 people in our circles, John Henry, they know about three days of darkness. They know about beeswax

00:32:10.580 candles. They know about Anna Maria Taigi. They don't know that she was a stigmatist. She was.

00:32:15.320 So for me, and this is what really struck me about all of this research, it's one thing of my neighbor

00:32:20.180 down the street is claiming that, you know, the end times are coming and he's talking to the Virgin

00:32:25.040 Mary and he's out there mowing his lawn. And I tell my wife, hey, Susan, I think Jim's kind of

00:32:30.040 lost it. He's talking to things. He's talking to the Virgin Mary in the woods. But if there's somebody

00:32:35.080 who's church approved, bleeding like clockwork from their hands and feet on a Thursday, Friday,

00:32:41.940 wounds are gone on Saturday. It goes on for years, decades, eating nothing but the Eucharist.

00:32:46.720 They bring in teams of psychiatrists and doctors and physicians and spiritual directors in the

00:32:51.300 Vatican and everything else. That person I'm taking seriously, I'm taking their predictions

00:32:56.700 seriously. It's like a divine mark stamp of approval, like an imprimatur in a way. I'm going

00:33:04.000 to take those prophecies a lot more seriously than I would from Jim if he's just down there in his

00:33:08.600 garage talking to his dog about the Blessed Virgin.

00:33:11.300 Your book also indicates that there are stigmatists right now, not even just 10 years ago and 20 years

00:33:18.180 ago, but right now. Not approved or anything, of course, but they're existing, living right now,

00:33:24.440 actually making prophecies as well.

00:33:26.940 There are. And you would think that there would be. So people shouldn't be dismissive of that.

00:33:31.840 Now, at the same time, you don't want to be skeptical. You don't want to be cynical. You want to keep,

00:33:36.840 you know, have an open mind. Keep in mind, Padre Pio wasn't canonized for three and a half decades

00:33:42.620 after his death. And it's Padre Pio. I mean, you would think Pio would have been canonized within

00:33:47.820 a week of him, of him being entombed, right? But no, it took decades. He was doubted in his time,

00:33:54.440 including by very high level Vatican officials in many cases. And there have been in the course of

00:34:00.820 history, there haven't been a lot of studies on this. And I don't know that the Vatican keeps a

00:34:04.480 running list. But from the studies that have been done, there have been probably about 400 to 500

00:34:10.360 stigmatists. Some people that might sound like a lot, but in the course of the history of humanity,

00:34:15.540 I mean, how many billions of people have lived? And there have been more in modern day, 1800s,

00:34:20.640 1900s. And there are a number of claims of people today. I had one person contact me who's a friend

00:34:27.660 of a priest. And this guy was with Tan Books. And he knows if somebody asked if I wanted to come

00:34:32.520 along and see, I didn't go, maybe I should, and maybe I should check it out. The founder of EWTN,

00:34:37.840 Mother Angelica, Rhoda Wise, who was the woman who brought her to the faith, she was a stigmatist.

00:34:44.920 You know, that's not that long ago. That's 20th century. And there are cases today that are out

00:34:50.140 there. They're mentioned on a number of different websites. They're easy to find. I talk about some of

00:34:56.220 them. I'm very careful with it. And I say, I don't know if these are legit. The church hasn't

00:35:01.700 ruled on it. And I certainly don't know if the prophecies, it's all private revelation. I don't

00:35:06.580 know if the prophecies are legit, but here's what they say. Here's what they're saying. And it is

00:35:11.320 remarkable how a number of them repeat that same phrase, great ball of fire from the sky,

00:35:18.700 great deluge, chastisement, worse than the great flood. And let me add this,

00:35:25.300 Faustina Kowalska, who died in 1938 at the age of 33, and we all have her diary. She was the first

00:35:31.440 canonized saint of the new millennium by John Paul II. We do the Divine Mercy Chaplet because of her

00:35:36.680 revelation, right? And she's the one who Jesus said, you will prepare the world for my second coming.

00:35:43.620 And he told her about days of darkness, darkness enveloping the whole world. Then the final sign

00:35:52.140 would appear in the sky, right? Like a cross in the sky that would, it would only be the wounds of

00:35:58.120 Christ that would provide the only light piercing the darkness and illuminating all of humanity.

00:36:04.280 So I really take Faustina seriously. And she was hidden stigmata.

00:36:09.760 I did a show once on St. Faustina because she described in her diary,

00:36:16.560 maybe I shouldn't say this, but the day Pope Francis was born. She had one of the worst

00:36:23.820 sufferings she ever had because of the suffering that was in the church. But it happened to be

00:36:31.060 in her diary on the day of Bergoglio's birth. Well, as is your book, Paul, I have to commend you.

00:36:37.420 You know, it's a very fascinating study. And what I love is that when men of great intellect spend all

00:36:44.180 the time that it takes to delve deep into these things, to get the actual facts and then present

00:36:49.720 them so people can be confident in what they're reading. So with that-

00:36:53.660 You're not talking about me, men of great intellect?

00:36:55.540 I am indeed. And I would encourage people to go and get the book called The Stigmatists. It's

00:37:03.180 available by TAN Publishers, great publishers of Catholic books, and they can be found wherever

00:37:09.620 good books are sold, but at TAN Publishing. And of course, for those outside of America, I think

00:37:15.900 Amazon will cover it as well.

00:37:17.500 I am a scholar and an academic. And so one of the reasons I did this book was I wanted to sort

00:37:22.960 this out in my own mind, what's real and what's not, what's being reported on websites in a sloppy

00:37:29.360 way that's not really documentable. Did this person really have that vision? And so a lot of this I did

00:37:36.100 for my own peace of mind. And then once I put together, I thought, wow, everybody, people need

00:37:40.340 to know this. People need to know about these prophecies and as well as the medical reports on the

00:37:46.280 stigmatists and everything. So thank you. That's very kind of you to say that.

00:37:49.340 Praise God. Well, thank you. Thank you, Paul. So good to be with you on the show.

00:37:53.480 Paul Kengord, ladies and gentlemen, please go get The Stigmatists, available from TAN.

00:37:58.060 Thank you so much, Paul. God bless you.

00:37:59.440 Thanks, John Henry. God bless.

00:38:00.880 And God bless all of you. And we'll see you next time.

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