The John-Henry Westen Show - Why Pope Francis' election could be invalid according to John Paul II document

00:00:00.640 There is an incredible document that was made by Pope John Paul II.

00:00:06.560 It was made about papal elections.

00:00:10.120 It actually talks about the rules for elections and says that if violated, it nullifies the

00:00:17.920 election of a pope, who is not then pope, and there doesn't even have to be an announcement

00:00:25.320 about it.

00:00:27.500 That document exists, it's called Universi Dominici Regis.

00:00:31.320 Very few people would be willing to talk about that, especially in the current context.

00:00:35.420 There is one person who would.

00:00:38.060 Almost all of you, perhaps all of you, know him.

00:00:41.060 His name is Patrick Coffin.

00:00:42.060 He is The Patrick Coffin Show, a super popular show, and his moniker is We Go There.

00:00:48.060 And boy, does he ever.

00:00:49.880 You're going to want to stay tuned.

00:00:53.880 Patrick Coffin, welcome to the program.

00:01:11.700 John Henry, it's an honor to be with you, sir.

00:01:14.700 We invite you.

00:01:15.700 Let's begin, as we always do, with the sign of the cross.

00:01:18.520 In the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.

00:01:23.520 Amen.

00:01:24.520 So, I recently had on the show Dr. Edmund Mazza a fascinating talk about his research into

00:01:33.940 Pope Benedict's resignation.

00:01:37.300 And I know that you've gone down that road.

00:01:39.340 In fact, you did a show that was sort of a succinct version of seven reasons why Pope Francis

00:01:48.100 might not be Pope.

00:01:50.000 And it was startling, startling in that you would go there.

00:01:56.700 And without trepidation, and I know you to be a very faithful Catholic.

00:02:04.720 And this is the thing, with Dr. Mazza it was the same.

00:02:08.240 Someone who's willing to live their life with faith amidst the struggles that that takes,

00:02:13.640 the hardship that it is.

00:02:16.000 But they're doing so, as you do, out of love for Christ, love for his church, and a willingness

00:02:22.240 to even sacrifice for it.

00:02:25.200 So, start us off.

00:02:27.000 I know you've been on the show before, but for those who might know, give us, or might

00:02:31.640 not know, give us sort of the 20-second version of Who's Patrick Coffin?

00:02:35.480 I'll begin after the tiny amoeba began all life on earth, and start with my entry into

00:02:42.880 the United States.

00:02:43.880 I was born and raised in Nova Scotia, I went to McGill University in Montreal, ended up at

00:02:49.480 the University of Toronto and the Stratford Festival.

00:02:51.880 But I found my true love, which is theology, after I recommitted my life to Christ as a

00:02:57.280 revert, as a young adult.

00:02:59.280 I got a master's degree from Franciscan University of Steubenville, was recruited then to a film

00:03:04.120 and TV company in Los Angeles.

00:03:06.780 And through, I won't bore you with the whole story, but cutting to the chase, I auditioned

00:03:11.160 and got the job of host of Catholic Answers Live, which I did happily from 2009 to 2016.

00:03:16.740 After which time, I started my own podcast and membership site, which you can find more

00:03:21.060 about at kafa-nation.com.

00:03:23.580 And every Tuesday, I get to drop the most amazing conversations with people that I call sages

00:03:30.440 and survivors of the culture war.

00:03:32.820 And these are people who have either been beaten down and shamed and banned and deleted, who

00:03:36.960 have a voice that deserves to be heard.

00:03:39.740 Or they have some wisdom to distill about, what's the DNA of our culture?

00:03:44.560 What do we mean by the West or Western civilization?

00:03:46.780 What's the US Constitution?

00:03:47.940 What's the Canadian Bill of Rights?

00:03:49.140 What are the foundational building blocks of what we call culture?

00:03:53.180 And how did it get broken?

00:03:54.540 So that's the sweet spot of my show.

00:03:58.280 To your question about the fear and trepidation, there was plenty of that when I began to see

00:04:03.500 what was happening in Rome under Francis.

00:04:07.700 And I have to credit you, John Henry.

00:04:09.940 I remember you were way ahead of the curve on how deep the rot was at the Vatican after

00:04:17.100 Pope Benedict left the public eye.

00:04:19.540 And I remember reading some of your coverage at LifeSide News, and I remember kind of wincing,

00:04:24.000 thinking, boy, that seems awfully harsh.

00:04:26.820 Isn't there any good news?

00:04:27.940 You were on it like a hound dog with a bird in the forest, and then another one, then

00:04:34.500 another one.

00:04:35.920 And it all added up to confusion in my mind.

00:04:38.580 It did not seem to compute with me that our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, the greatest

00:04:43.020 teacher in history and imaginable, would will for his church one diabolical confusion after

00:04:49.680 another.

00:04:50.680 Everyone listening and watching right now has their own first domino where they thought,

00:04:55.180 yeah, that smells bad.

00:04:57.180 For some people, it was the night of, or the fact that the press made a big deal about

00:05:01.960 his brown leather shoes instead of the, you know, I guess sinful red leather shoes that

00:05:06.560 Pope Benedict wore, paying his own bill, carrying his own luggage.

00:05:10.120 Something didn't add up.

00:05:11.540 And then we got who am I to judge with respect to homosexuality.

00:05:14.900 Then we got Amoris Laetitia chapter eight, which indeed provides a loophole for divorced

00:05:20.940 and civilly remarried Catholics to receive Holy Communion.

00:05:23.520 And as John Gravino has proven so well in his book, Confronting the Pope of Suspicion,

00:05:28.300 Amoris Laetitia is the official codification of 1960s and 70s era dissent.

00:05:34.900 And almost all of it on matters sexual.

00:05:37.300 Uh, the dissent that, that, that grew like weeds under Paul VI and was never really tamped

00:05:43.080 down.

00:05:44.080 Even the norms of humana vitae were never, uh, there was no disciplining of priests and prelates

00:05:48.620 who, who, uh, disagreed publicly with that teaching.

00:05:51.080 And so where did it go?

00:05:53.300 Well, when, when John Paul II took, took the, the chair of Peter in 1978, uh, it was a new

00:05:59.040 sheriff.

00:05:59.740 Uh, it was not the old sheriff.

00:06:00.960 It was more, uh, Will Cain, Gary Cooper.

00:06:03.380 And, uh, John Paul II, um, suffered very few fools gladly.

00:06:07.780 And a lot of the dissent either vanished, went away, or, uh, in its own way, um, got sublimated

00:06:14.380 and, and put into this, into what I would call the shunt tracks of the church and things

00:06:19.300 like seminary textbooks and so on.

00:06:21.520 And then in 2015 and 2016, we had the synods on the family.

00:06:25.540 And that's when Amoris Laetitia, the resulting apostolic exhortation arrived, especially section

00:06:30.800 eight and the footnotes thereof.

00:06:33.540 And by that time I'd already realized there's something seriously wrong with the church.

00:06:38.080 And we can't keep saying, why did God give us a bad Pope?

00:06:41.500 Well, you know, we Catholics are used to talking about our bad Popes, whether Medici Popes

00:06:46.220 or Borgia Popes, but this is not merely a bad Pope.

00:06:50.080 A bad Pope is a man who in his private life is a sinner, as we all are.

00:06:54.820 Francis is a usurper.

00:06:57.740 He has assaulted in a very deliberate way, the deposit of faith, the things of sacred tradition,

00:07:04.300 and has allied himself with all of the enemies of John Paul II and Benedict XVI, by the way,

00:07:09.780 all the worldly powers, global acclaim, plaudits and cheers from the New York Times and CNN,

00:07:16.160 all the legacy media love Francis in a similar inverse way to which they hated previous pontiffs.

00:07:24.240 So here you have pontiffs, and Jumpall II reigned well into his 80s, who commanded the largest

00:07:29.880 live event in human history at World Youth Day in Manila.

00:07:33.620 So how is someone reviled by the New York Times and that cabal able to draw millions?

00:07:40.200 I think it was 5 million people showed up that day in the Philippines.

00:07:42.760 Beautiful.

00:07:44.720 And yet Francis is revered by these worldly powers and hard left journalists.

00:07:51.560 He's their cheerleader and their mentor and their model.

00:07:54.500 And yet his crowds are tiny.

00:07:55.780 I've had the unmerited privilege of meeting both John Paul II and Pope Benedict XVI, both

00:08:02.300 in Rome, unforgettable encounters.

00:08:04.640 And the crowds were jammed, sitting in standing room only.

00:08:10.240 Whereas with Francis, it was, I won't say a trickle, I want to be accurate, but it wasn't

00:08:14.580 anywhere near the public unconscious love just to be with these great men of God and to listen.

00:08:21.760 With Francis, it was more, let's just say modest.

00:08:26.200 So the evidence that I collected, at first, it drew my attention because of the things that

00:08:34.120 really don't matter.

00:08:35.100 And by the things that really don't matter, I mean the behavior of Francis and the focus

00:08:39.560 on the St. Gallen Mafia and the March 13th conclave.

00:08:42.980 Which, by the way, I think the evidence is clear.

00:08:44.720 There were canonical crimes committed in that conclave that were identifiable in a very

00:08:51.820 obvious way by Austin Ivory, author of this book.

00:08:55.660 This is called The Great Reformer.

00:08:57.660 Interesting subtitle.

00:08:59.000 Francis and the Making of a Radical Pope.

00:09:02.540 The Making of.

00:09:03.540 Not the voting for a regular pope.

00:09:05.060 No, the making of a radical pope.

00:09:06.620 And he's not even called Pope Francis in the subtitle.

00:09:09.340 This is a very hard to find original edition in English that came out the year after Francis

00:09:15.620 arrived.

00:09:16.780 And it was immediately attacked by his former boss, Cormac Murphy O'Connor, the Cardinal

00:09:20.920 Archbishop of London, saying the chapter on the conclave never happened.

00:09:24.200 It must be excised.

00:09:25.740 Well, guess which chapter I raced to when the book arrived in my mailbox.

00:09:30.160 And that chapter, I'm writing a book about this myself, by the way.

00:09:33.120 And that chapter describes in a very casual way the very behavior that John Paul II made

00:09:39.340 punishes with excommunication in the document you referenced, Universi Dominici Gregus from

00:09:44.160 1996.

00:09:46.100 Now, this is an apostolic constitution.

00:09:47.820 It's not a modu proprio.

00:09:49.360 It's not an interview given at 37,000 feet.

00:09:52.040 This is the highest level of papal document, short of a dogmatic definition.

00:09:56.460 This is a solemn summary of the prescriptions and proscriptions of how future conclaves are

00:10:02.280 to be conducted.

00:10:04.100 Conclaves, the actual gathering of the cardinals to elect the pope.

00:10:07.080 The gathering of the cardinals to elect the pope and the day of voting and so on.

00:10:10.160 It all has to be in accord with these prescriptions and proscriptions.

00:10:14.320 And the reason I say this is the thing that was the noisiest, the thing that got my attention,

00:10:18.680 but not the most important, is that there's something upstream from that.

00:10:23.500 Let's get to that in a moment.

00:10:24.940 Sure.

00:10:25.180 I want to unpack this because you did indeed.

00:10:29.620 Just to go through your laundry list, I notice, you know, some of the things that caught most

00:10:36.060 people's attention.

00:10:37.760 The Pachamama idolatry.

00:10:38.960 The, you know, Father James Martin promotion.

00:10:44.520 I mean, that was very plain.

00:10:46.740 The whole Pope Francis himself talking about how civil unions are the way to go, meaning

00:10:51.140 homosexual civil unions.

00:10:53.040 All sorts of things that rattled, as you were saying, which domino is it that's going to

00:11:00.120 convert you to the other side or convince you that something is really, really amiss, much

00:11:04.580 more so than in other papacies.

00:11:06.840 You were mentioning that some people didn't see early on.

00:11:10.580 And it's true.

00:11:11.420 On the day of the election, at the election, in fact, right when the Pope first comes out

00:11:18.240 onto the balcony after the election, he brings with him those cardinals, the Carmelingo,

00:11:24.140 yes, but also those who are most important to him among the group of cardinals.

00:11:29.540 And some people notice.

00:11:30.440 We didn't catch it at LifeSite.

00:11:31.620 We didn't watch the actual thing live.

00:11:33.580 But you noticed Cardinal Daniels were there, Godfrey Daniels, who was horrifically anti-life,

00:11:42.600 anti-family, known by people in the pro-life, pro-family movement as, you know, one of the

00:11:48.280 dissident cardinals.

00:11:50.760 And yet he was there.

00:11:53.100 Interestingly about Daniels, he is not only a pariah for the faithful who are pro-life and

00:12:00.300 family, even for those outside the realm of life and family who are concerned about sexual

00:12:07.400 abuse, he's a massive offender.

00:12:10.460 Tell us about that, if you will.

00:12:13.200 Cardinal Daniels was caught on audio tape explaining to the sexual abuse victim who was the biological

00:12:19.900 nephew of another Belgian archbishop who had abused his own biological nephew.

00:12:27.000 Basically, it's the same script with these guys, John Henry.

00:12:30.280 For the good of the church, you have to forgive, et cetera, et cetera.

00:12:34.000 I don't have a transcript because if I read those things, I lose my lunch.

00:12:37.000 But it's the same shutting down of a legitimate hurting soul.

00:12:41.220 A child, the one about whom our Lord warned about something about millstones and being

00:12:47.100 cast into the sea.

00:12:48.400 Here's the highest ranking member of the church in Antwerp, Belgium, basically telling the victim

00:12:55.300 to shut up so he could protect his brother Bishop.

00:12:59.040 And that's the beginning of a long list, but it's bad enough.

00:13:01.760 So he was part of the photo op on the loggia that night, March 13, 2013, over Francis' left

00:13:07.300 shoulder.

00:13:08.500 And this is clearly a reward.

00:13:12.040 This is part of the quid pro quo.

00:13:14.660 I'll give you the moment in how many hundreds of millions of people are watching that.

00:13:19.360 And it's a statement about his priorities, his agenda.

00:13:24.120 You know, they say personnel is policy.

00:13:27.040 Well, so is photo op and photo optics.

00:13:32.260 Unbelievable.

00:13:33.420 Cardinal Daniels was then invited as a special appointee of Pope Francis.

00:13:37.300 to the First and Second Family Synods.

00:13:40.220 It went on and on.

00:13:41.380 Cardinal Burke was, of course, sidelined in the most unbelievable way, as has happened

00:13:45.720 to Cardinal Serra, Cardinal Müller, and other cardinals who had been the stalwarts under

00:13:53.800 both popes, John Paul II and Benedict.

00:13:58.440 So some unbelievable times we've been living through.

00:14:01.080 There's an additional contrast here, since you're talking about the treatment of Cardinals

00:14:05.920 Burke, Serra, and Müller, all good men.

00:14:09.820 And that is the protection of actual either pedophiles or predators, like Bishop Gustav Zancheta

00:14:16.940 from Argentina, who is now going to jail or is in jail.

00:14:21.180 Also the pedophile, Father Julio Grassi.

00:14:25.360 These are criminals who identify strongly with the support that then Cardinal Bergoglio, now Francis, protected, both in jail.

00:14:35.560 So, you know, the phrase birds of a feather means something.

00:14:40.440 I'm not saying he's a pedophile.

00:14:42.200 Someone's going to say, oh, Patrick Coffin claims that the Pope.

00:14:44.360 I'm not saying that at all.

00:14:45.620 I'm saying that over time you see a pattern of good men being fired or ignored or sidelined

00:14:53.040 and evil men being promoted and protected.

00:14:58.760 That should be of concern for people who are Catholic, Protestant, or atheist.

00:15:02.960 You can see the pattern here.

00:15:04.960 Yeah.

00:15:06.180 So one of the comebacks, and just to play devil's advocate,

00:15:10.840 look, we've had bad popes in the past.

00:15:13.640 You mentioned the Borgia popes.

00:15:15.040 They had relationships with bad actors.

00:15:18.300 They promoted them because of financial gain or sexual who knows what or perhaps blackmail.

00:15:25.440 Aren't we just reliving the same thing?

00:15:27.380 Many people have said that.

00:15:28.420 Many people have said, oh, we've gone through worse even in the past.

00:15:31.480 Why not?

00:15:33.600 Let me make an analogy with everyone's pastor.

00:15:36.860 So if you're watching, listening to us now, think of your pastor.

00:15:40.940 If you discovered that your pastor was having an affair with his housekeeper,

00:15:44.520 you wouldn't necessarily conclude that his sermons on chastity were hypocritical.

00:15:52.300 Maybe they were meant for him, and he's not living up to his own ideals.

00:15:57.760 So someone can be a sinner in private, living a kind of double life.

00:16:02.460 But some of the Borgia popes were actually, although they had mistresses

00:16:06.220 and they had even murders committed, mafioso style,

00:16:09.900 they were ironclad guardians of orthodoxy.

00:16:17.000 So whether they were buying hookers on Friday and having people killed on Saturday,

00:16:20.420 by Sunday, the documents that they wrote and produced and promulgated

00:16:24.280 or the homilies that they gave were faithful to the gospel,

00:16:27.780 to the standard of our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ.

00:16:30.280 That's what Francis is not doing.

00:16:32.280 That standard is being undermined, usurped, attacked, contradicted.

00:16:37.760 Almost every time he gets a chance to, there is some slight against sacred tradition.

00:16:44.220 And by slight, that runs the gamut, all the way to suppressing the traditional Latin mass,

00:16:51.840 which according to Pope Pius V is irreformable.

00:16:57.200 So why would Francis deliberately target hotspots of Catholic orthodoxy,

00:17:01.480 of evangelization, of large families, of generosity with fertility,

00:17:05.000 while promoting with handwritten letters,

00:17:08.560 people like the highest profile homosexualist in the Catholic Church,

00:17:12.680 Fr. James Martin, who's now, with the help of Martin Scorsese,

00:17:17.460 producing a documentary version of his book, Building a Bridge.

00:17:20.480 How do these people get promoted with the Pope's own handwriting,

00:17:23.460 but people who are faithful to Christ to the point of heroism are denied?

00:17:27.800 Meanwhile, Katy Perry, Hollywood Romans like Leonardo DiCaprio,

00:17:33.300 they get the red carpet treatment.

00:17:34.540 But people like Cardinal Zan, the retired cardinal of Hong Kong,

00:17:38.500 they're out in the cold.

00:17:40.800 Quite literally so.

00:17:41.680 That's just a small summary of the proof I'm talking about.

00:17:45.260 Indeed.

00:17:45.740 So we have this dire situation about, you might say it from some respects,

00:17:54.480 the worst Pope ever in the history of the Church.

00:17:58.040 But you're going beyond that.

00:18:00.600 You're saying that the very papacy itself is in question.

00:18:05.260 And let's go back to the discussion that I guess first led you down this road

00:18:10.840 about Universi Dominici Gregius, this document, this, as you said,

00:18:15.300 Apostolic Constitution, highest teaching document in the Church

00:18:18.680 next to an ex-catheter statement.

00:18:22.220 So unpack that one for us, and what does it mean for the Church?

00:18:27.180 Well, it's a longish document.

00:18:29.400 I did mention it in the first iteration of my evidence video.

00:18:33.840 And some people have said, hey, Patrick was confusing

00:18:36.180 because he put it out of order.

00:18:37.280 The reason I did that is that Section 81,

00:18:42.120 and you can put a link in your show notes, John Henry,

00:18:46.880 Sections 80, 81, 82 have to do with,

00:18:50.700 I won't read it because it's a little bit technical,

00:18:53.540 but if people want to sit with it,

00:18:54.900 they can find out that behaviors that are illegalized canonically

00:18:59.400 by the late John Paul II describe vote blocking, schmoozing,

00:19:04.760 creating conspiratorial behavior,

00:19:07.800 treating the papal office like a political office,

00:19:10.340 arranging quid pro quo deals behind the scenes,

00:19:13.020 that sort of thing.

00:19:13.940 This is the kind of behavior that Austin Ivory

00:19:16.380 casually mentions in his book.

00:19:19.920 The biography of Cardinal Daniil's also mentions it.

00:19:24.600 Ted McCarrick, the molester,

00:19:26.500 mentions this kind of behavior in his 19,

00:19:28.760 excuse me, 2013 talk at Villanova University.

00:19:31.520 Don't believe me, believe them.

00:19:32.920 So these crimes, canonical crimes, I mean,

00:19:37.860 according to John Paul II,

00:19:41.540 have this attached to them.

00:19:44.900 This is number 76.

00:19:46.240 Should the election take place in a way

00:19:48.180 other than that prescribed in the current Constitution,

00:19:50.780 or should the conditions laid down here not be observed,

00:19:54.340 the election is for this very reason null and void,

00:19:58.380 without any need for a declaration on the matter.

00:20:00.600 Consequently, it confers no right on the one elected.

00:20:06.320 You don't need to be a canon lawyer to understand

00:20:08.240 that a man who's excommunicated cannot be Pope.

00:20:10.880 So that invalidates the papacy of Francis.

00:20:13.760 The trouble with this piece of evidence, John Henry,

00:20:16.720 although I hold that it's valid,

00:20:19.860 is that it becomes difficult to establish in a canonical court forum,

00:20:23.360 because the cardinal electors who perform these illegal acts

00:20:28.040 would be part of the dynamism of adjudicating on it,

00:20:32.800 sort of the fox watching the hen house.

00:20:35.740 It's possible,

00:20:37.040 but I think it's difficult to establish that.

00:20:40.740 And it's also downstream from the first thing,

00:20:42.800 which maybe we'll get to.

00:20:44.240 But that alone invalidates the papacy of Francis.

00:20:47.860 It means he's an anti-pope.

00:20:49.260 Again, anti-pope does not mean anti-Christ.

00:20:50.980 It doesn't even mean he's necessarily a bad man.

00:20:54.260 I think if you can't see that Francis is a bad man,

00:20:56.920 I'm not sure what to say.

00:20:59.060 But even if he's a very good man, a holy man,

00:21:01.120 a completely orthodox man,

00:21:03.000 you can't be Pope if someone else occupies the office of papacy.

00:21:09.080 Those words again from paragraph 76.

00:21:14.040 Could you read them one more time?

00:21:15.200 Their significance is so stark,

00:21:17.820 if you wouldn't mind reading them again.

00:21:19.480 Sure.

00:21:19.920 Should the election,

00:21:21.140 meaning a future papal election,

00:21:23.500 and remember, if I can pause here,

00:21:25.260 John Paul II knew all these cats.

00:21:29.140 Their behavior as a future possibility

00:21:32.040 was not a surprise to him.

00:21:33.720 He became Pope in October 1978.

00:21:36.660 In fact, he appointed some of these men with red hats.

00:21:39.500 So this is someone who is seasoned

00:21:42.040 both in Romanita, in Vatican politics,

00:21:44.700 but also an astute reader of human nature in many ways.

00:21:49.360 So here's the penalty.

00:21:51.720 Should the election take place in a way

00:21:53.320 other than that prescribed in the present constitution?

00:21:56.080 Or should the conditions lay down here,

00:21:58.040 not be observed?

00:21:59.480 The election is for this very reason,

00:22:02.200 null and void,

00:22:03.440 without any need for a declaration on the matter.

00:22:06.040 Consequently, it confers no right

00:22:08.600 on the one elected, unquote.

00:22:11.660 This is analogous to a decree of nullity for a marriage.

00:22:14.980 It's not saying that there was a marriage

00:22:16.280 that suddenly stopped being,

00:22:18.300 but it was a putative, non-valid marriage

00:22:20.860 from day one.

00:22:24.220 Unbelievable.

00:22:24.740 Please don't believe us.

00:22:26.280 Please go.

00:22:27.460 You can go online,

00:22:28.480 look up Renuversi, Dominici Gregis,

00:22:31.120 paragraph 76.

00:22:32.760 It's right there for you.

00:22:34.620 So let's go on from there,

00:22:35.940 because as you said,

00:22:37.400 this is actually downstream

00:22:38.800 from something else that takes precedence over it.

00:22:43.660 What would that be?

00:22:45.780 That would be the document

00:22:47.120 that's only two paragraphs long

00:22:48.920 that was written by his own account

00:22:51.320 at his walnut desk by hand.

00:22:54.140 And that's called the Declaratio,

00:22:56.540 the resignation two-paragraph document

00:22:58.720 that Pope Benedict XVI read on television

00:23:02.080 on February 11th, 2013.

00:23:05.900 We're talking about a man,

00:23:08.300 not only fluent in Latin,

00:23:09.680 but who lectured in Latin,

00:23:11.260 who was fluent in the mother tongue of the church,

00:23:13.200 which is Latin,

00:23:14.420 the man who was the previous prefect

00:23:16.640 of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith,

00:23:19.540 the guardian of Catholic Orthodoxy,

00:23:22.060 the loyal lieutenant of John Paul,

00:23:23.860 the great.

00:23:25.140 The man who had a hand in editing

00:23:27.560 the 1983 code of canon law,

00:23:30.680 which updated the P.O. Benedictine code from 1917.

00:23:35.520 Pope Benedict is excessively,

00:23:37.840 acutely familiar with every line of canon law

00:23:41.100 with respect to papal abdications.

00:23:43.280 And if you read canon 332.2,

00:23:48.080 again, don't believe me,

00:23:49.060 you can find it at vatican.va.

00:23:51.240 Canon 332.2 does refer to the conditions

00:23:54.180 surrounding a valid renunciation of the papal office.

00:23:59.900 I can probably quote that to you.

00:24:01.800 Do you want me to read that?

00:24:03.100 Sure.

00:24:03.280 It's quite short.

00:24:03.740 So let me give the before and after canons

00:24:07.100 so I won't be accused of cherry picking.

00:24:09.080 The context here is the section called,

00:24:11.560 it's article one in the code.

00:24:13.480 It's called the Roman pontiff as a subhead.

00:24:15.640 Canon 331.

00:24:16.820 The bishop of the Roman church

00:24:20.100 in whom continues the office

00:24:22.320 given by the Lord uniquely to Peter,

00:24:26.180 the first of the apostles,

00:24:27.640 and to be transmitted to his successors

00:24:29.680 is the head of the college of bishops,

00:24:32.640 the vicar of Christ

00:24:33.940 and the pastor of the universal church on earth.

00:24:37.580 By virtue of his office,

00:24:41.160 he possesses supreme, full, immediate

00:24:44.200 and universal ordinary power in the church.

00:24:46.820 Which he's always able to exercise freely.

00:24:50.920 Canon 332.1.

00:24:52.100 We're getting close now.

00:24:53.420 The Roman pontiff obtains full and supreme power

00:24:56.060 in the church by his acceptance

00:24:57.520 of legitimate election

00:24:59.080 together with episcopal consecration.

00:25:02.800 Therefore, a person elected to the supreme pontificate

00:25:06.240 who is marked with episcopal character

00:25:07.980 obtains this power from the moment of acceptance.

00:25:11.720 If the person elected lacks episcopal character,

00:25:14.640 however, he is to be ordained a bishop immediately.

00:25:16.820 This makes provision for the fact

00:25:18.460 that you don't have to be a consecrated bishop

00:25:20.400 to be pope.

00:25:21.340 If you are named pope,

00:25:22.600 you must be canonized,

00:25:23.660 excuse me, consecrated as bishop immediately.

00:25:26.100 Okay.

00:25:26.740 Here's Canon 332.2.

00:25:29.080 And by the way,

00:25:29.620 I'm pausing on the words election and office

00:25:32.140 because they are key.

00:25:33.180 The office in this English translation

00:25:36.400 in the original Latin is munus,

00:25:39.060 M-U-N-U-S.

00:25:40.020 Now, munus is a rich word.

00:25:41.200 It doesn't just mean office.

00:25:42.300 It also means gift.

00:25:43.720 In this context,

00:25:44.640 it refers to being the pope.

00:25:46.820 It's the container of the papacy.

00:25:50.400 Here it is.

00:25:52.600 If it happens that the Roman pontiff

00:25:54.660 resigns his office,

00:25:57.100 munus,

00:25:58.080 it is required for validity

00:25:59.680 that the resignation is made freely

00:26:02.280 and properly manifested,

00:26:04.600 but not that it's accepted by anyone.

00:26:08.020 Let me just do the next one as well

00:26:09.820 because there's a way to put a red bow on this here.

00:26:13.080 Canon 333.1.

00:26:15.340 By virtue of his office,

00:26:17.860 the Roman pontiff not only possesses power

00:26:19.900 over the universal church,

00:26:20.920 but also obtains the primacy of ordinary power

00:26:23.160 over all particular churches

00:26:24.720 and groups of them.

00:26:26.940 And it goes on.

00:26:27.580 But I wanted to read the next canon

00:26:29.560 because of its reference to office.

00:26:31.280 That's the context of papal resignation.

00:26:34.480 You can resign many things,

00:26:36.240 elements of the papacy

00:26:37.440 that have to do with juridical authority,

00:26:40.600 writing magisterial documents,

00:26:41.980 appointed cardinals,

00:26:44.100 acting as the pope.

00:26:46.300 That's covered by the word ministerium.

00:26:48.760 Now, munus sometimes means ministerium.

00:26:51.240 Ministerium does not ever mean munus.

00:26:53.380 So you can do a symbolic logic Venn diagram

00:26:56.800 on the linguistics of it.

00:26:59.260 This helps explain

00:27:00.560 why the evidence is very strong

00:27:02.740 that Pope Benedict

00:27:03.600 didn't make a mistake here.

00:27:05.940 He deliberately resigned

00:27:07.840 not the office,

00:27:10.800 but the functions thereof.

00:27:12.360 Think of a bowl of cherries.

00:27:13.740 You dump out the cherries.

00:27:15.080 What do you have left?

00:27:16.220 The bowl.

00:27:16.740 Just an empty bowl.

00:27:18.700 He wears the white ziketo,

00:27:19.680 the skullcap.

00:27:20.440 He wears the white papal cassock.

00:27:22.340 He's called his holiness.

00:27:24.020 His personal signature is

00:27:25.520 Benedict XVI, PP,

00:27:29.080 which is a reference to it.

00:27:30.460 There's several different Latin ways

00:27:32.140 to understand that,

00:27:32.760 but it's the official designation

00:27:33.900 of the papacy.

00:27:36.180 I want to mention

00:27:37.380 this amazing book.

00:27:38.860 This was a huge red light bulb for me

00:27:41.920 and helped me understand

00:27:43.700 both the election problems

00:27:45.580 but also the declaratio.

00:27:46.680 And that's Benedict XVI,

00:27:48.240 Pope Emeritus, question mark,

00:27:49.640 by the Colombian attorney,

00:27:51.300 Estefania Acosta.

00:27:52.340 It is an excellent book to get.

00:27:54.500 I recommend anyone,

00:27:55.600 skeptical or friend of this evidence,

00:27:56.960 to read what she collates

00:28:00.200 in that book.

00:28:02.760 Francis does not use PP

00:28:05.660 in his papal signature, so-called.

00:28:08.340 It's just Franciscus.

00:28:11.860 Why didn't Pope Benedict,

00:28:15.280 upon retiring,

00:28:16.720 do what he said he wanted to do

00:28:18.220 in several public speeches,

00:28:19.540 interviews, and books

00:28:20.160 with Peach Saywald,

00:28:21.040 which was retire to his beloved Bavaria

00:28:23.560 and write theological tomes

00:28:25.360 and pray?

00:28:27.060 Why didn't he pick up a black

00:28:28.620 or even a red cassock

00:28:29.740 since he was a cardinal?

00:28:30.800 Well, he told Andrea Tornielli

00:28:33.700 a year after he left public life

00:28:36.840 that there were no black cassocks

00:28:38.660 to be had,

00:28:39.200 which I know you've been to Rome

00:28:40.620 many times, as have I.

00:28:43.800 Clerical stores are ubiquitous in Rome.

00:28:46.420 That's not really an answer

00:28:47.640 that coheres with reality.

00:28:51.020 Why didn't he do that?

00:28:52.420 Well, no,

00:28:52.840 he stayed in the Amante Ecclesia,

00:28:54.140 the mother of the church residence

00:28:55.820 in the Vatican Gardens.

00:28:57.700 Very, very, very close

00:28:59.420 to the levers of power

00:29:01.000 in the Vatican.

00:29:02.340 Even Cardinal Pell has pointed out,

00:29:03.860 this is confusing for the faithful.

00:29:05.720 This two popes idea,

00:29:06.920 even our ideological enemies

00:29:08.380 who run Netflix

00:29:09.400 were quick to make a movie about this,

00:29:12.080 the two popes.

00:29:13.800 So that's the beginning

00:29:16.300 of a long list

00:29:16.980 that's been compiled

00:29:17.740 by the Italian researcher

00:29:20.060 and writer Andrea Cianci,

00:29:22.180 C-I-O-N-C-I,

00:29:23.540 I probably butchered his name.

00:29:24.760 He's written the most

00:29:25.760 about the Ratzinger Code.

00:29:27.320 And I think that code,

00:29:28.880 so consistent,

00:29:29.880 so logical,

00:29:30.700 if you have eyes to see

00:29:31.600 over the last nine years,

00:29:33.120 is the answer to the question

00:29:34.280 or the controversy,

00:29:35.860 was this a mistake

00:29:36.800 that Benedict was making?

00:29:38.280 And this evidence

00:29:39.400 is overwhelming,

00:29:40.140 but no, he knows.

00:29:41.180 He's created

00:29:41.680 not an empty chair,

00:29:43.660 but an impeded C.

00:29:45.780 So I like to think of it

00:29:47.280 as Benedict wasn't

00:29:48.680 outfoxed by the wolves.

00:29:50.820 He outfoxed them

00:29:51.880 by creating an impeded C

00:29:54.380 that they walked into,

00:29:56.580 knowing that he was

00:29:57.680 no longer able

00:29:58.640 by his advanced age,

00:29:59.860 by his weakened

00:30:00.420 physical condition.

00:30:01.340 He just couldn't play

00:30:02.720 the Johnny Weismuller whack-a-mole.

00:30:05.480 There's a reference

00:30:06.320 for your older viewers.

00:30:08.100 Whack-a-mole

00:30:08.740 with all the modernists,

00:30:09.760 all the homosexual agenda,

00:30:12.280 all of the globalists,

00:30:13.780 all the enemies of Christ

00:30:14.740 in his church.

00:30:15.260 He was too weak to do it.

00:30:16.940 He was surrounded by enemies.

00:30:18.800 Even in his beloved Germany,

00:30:20.280 if you watch the footage

00:30:20.980 of his first papal visit

00:30:21.980 to Germany,

00:30:22.600 it's very sad

00:30:23.580 how they won't extend

00:30:25.040 their hands

00:30:25.660 to greet their German pope.

00:30:28.500 So what he did was,

00:30:30.000 he set the world's largest trap

00:30:31.960 for the enemies of Christ

00:30:33.460 in his church

00:30:33.960 to step into

00:30:34.740 because he knew,

00:30:35.960 eventually,

00:30:36.920 these clues would be found out

00:30:38.360 and they would have

00:30:39.800 walked into a trap,

00:30:41.280 meaning all of it,

00:30:43.120 all of the papal acts

00:30:43.980 of Francis,

00:30:44.900 will be declared

00:30:45.500 officially null and void.

00:30:48.240 That, in a nutshell,

00:30:49.520 is the kill shot.

00:30:50.520 In the original video

00:30:51.740 that I made,

00:30:52.260 it's piece of evidence

00:30:53.440 number two.

00:30:56.240 Okay.

00:30:56.640 obviously for Catholics

00:30:59.100 who are faithful,

00:31:00.960 that is like a dream.

00:31:02.920 That would be

00:31:03.720 the best possible outcome

00:31:05.900 of the insanity

00:31:07.240 of the last nine years.

00:31:08.840 It would, in a way,

00:31:10.100 be the simplest explanation.

00:31:13.320 But there's a problem

00:31:14.680 with the thesis,

00:31:16.520 or perhaps not with the thesis,

00:31:17.640 but with its unfolding,

00:31:19.800 how do we ever get back?

00:31:24.020 Because we've got

00:31:25.280 a College of Cardinals

00:31:26.160 that's mostly appointed

00:31:28.720 by Francis.

00:31:30.960 We've got a church

00:31:33.000 in disarray

00:31:33.500 where even the best,

00:31:36.460 if you might say,

00:31:37.420 of the Cardinals

00:31:38.600 don't appreciate

00:31:39.880 this position.

00:31:40.900 I've known,

00:31:41.560 I've talked to some of them

00:31:42.400 who don't agree

00:31:43.480 with this at all.

00:31:44.120 What are we supposed

00:31:47.440 to do with that?

00:31:49.580 Except that it's a fact

00:31:51.040 that the evidence

00:31:52.900 is not only clear

00:31:56.260 and sufficient

00:31:57.420 for one to come

00:31:58.800 to a morally

00:31:59.400 certain judgment,

00:32:00.900 but also that it's

00:32:02.040 so world-rocking.

00:32:03.480 It's so foreign

00:32:04.460 to anyone.

00:32:06.080 Anyone living

00:32:06.860 has never undergone

00:32:07.760 anything like this,

00:32:08.500 even though we've had

00:32:09.160 30-plus antipopes

00:32:10.640 in history.

00:32:11.800 So the idea,

00:32:12.960 it's not only

00:32:13.600 is it foreign

00:32:14.680 and kind of scary

00:32:15.600 at first,

00:32:16.600 it seems to open

00:32:17.960 up the ground

00:32:18.640 into an abyss

00:32:19.360 of nothingness

00:32:20.060 beneath our feet.

00:32:21.080 What, are you

00:32:21.560 a sedevacontist?

00:32:22.880 Are you crazy?

00:32:23.960 Did Christ leave us orphans?

00:32:27.420 I'm familiar

00:32:28.220 with the people

00:32:29.040 who are not quite there

00:32:30.160 yet with this.

00:32:31.000 I respect them immensely.

00:32:32.460 I'm not here

00:32:33.260 to convert anyone.

00:32:34.620 It's to continually

00:32:35.600 go back and review

00:32:36.740 why this evidence

00:32:37.840 uniquely

00:32:38.620 and immediately

00:32:39.380 makes sense

00:32:40.100 of all of it.

00:32:41.700 There's no canon

00:32:43.420 there's no document

00:32:44.620 in the magisterium

00:32:45.540 of the Catholic Church

00:32:46.280 that says

00:32:46.900 that lay people

00:32:48.000 are supposed

00:32:48.520 to stay mum

00:32:49.520 and let this

00:32:50.360 monstrous

00:32:51.500 machine

00:32:53.600 of corruption

00:32:54.400 continue

00:32:55.300 to bulldoze

00:32:56.200 Christ and his bride.

00:32:57.780 An unlettered woman,

00:33:00.040 unlettered,

00:33:00.520 uneducated lay woman

00:33:01.540 was right

00:33:03.000 and one of the greatest

00:33:04.160 saints in the Catholic Church,

00:33:05.480 the great Dominican

00:33:06.120 Saint Vincent Friar,

00:33:07.260 was wrong

00:33:07.920 on the question

00:33:08.920 of the Avignon papacy.

00:33:10.760 Saint Catherine of Siena

00:33:11.880 was urging people

00:33:13.700 to follow the true Pope

00:33:14.580 which is Urban VI.

00:33:17.140 Saint Vincent Friar

00:33:18.300 got it wrong

00:33:19.160 and he had to repent

00:33:20.420 because he was saying

00:33:21.160 the wrong man's name

00:33:22.020 in the Te Egyetor

00:33:22.800 of the Holy Mass.

00:33:24.400 So it doesn't matter

00:33:25.520 what office you hold

00:33:26.540 and we don't have to wait

00:33:27.620 for some future Pope

00:33:28.800 or conclave

00:33:29.540 to,

00:33:30.480 or not conclave,

00:33:31.320 a synod or council

00:33:32.240 to manifest

00:33:36.040 that this is true.

00:33:37.440 They have to

00:33:37.860 definitively

00:33:39.260 judge on the matter.

00:33:41.140 That's not my job.

00:33:42.020 That's above my pay grade

00:33:42.960 and yours.

00:33:44.060 However,

00:33:44.500 you can come to a certainty

00:33:45.680 about the truth

00:33:47.320 of the declaratio

00:33:48.460 and once you,

00:33:50.460 once the light bulb

00:33:51.420 goes off,

00:33:51.940 you stop hand-wringing

00:33:53.020 about Francis.

00:33:53.860 I have dear friends,

00:33:54.840 I'm worried that they're

00:33:55.540 going to break

00:33:55.880 their wrist bones

00:33:56.560 or something,

00:33:57.040 all the hand-wringing

00:33:58.380 about what Francis

00:33:59.220 has done,

00:33:59.840 what his plans are,

00:34:01.440 the fact that he doesn't

00:34:02.160 speak up against heresy

00:34:03.340 and all of the isms,

00:34:05.000 all the agenda

00:34:05.680 that are a completely

00:34:06.920 antichrist in nature.

00:34:08.940 Well,

00:34:09.920 my reply to that is,

00:34:11.740 what do you expect?

00:34:13.320 He's just behaving

00:34:14.020 the way you'd anticipate

00:34:15.060 an antipope

00:34:15.600 to act.

00:34:18.760 And if it's not,

00:34:19.840 if it's not

00:34:21.340 a legitimate papal act,

00:34:22.780 that means his

00:34:23.820 cardinal appointments

00:34:24.980 are not valid.

00:34:27.540 That's one of the things

00:34:28.600 that flows from this.

00:34:29.920 So the goal here,

00:34:32.040 and I could speak

00:34:32.920 of a three-pronged goal

00:34:33.880 that I have,

00:34:34.440 one is to continue

00:34:35.640 to educate the Catholic

00:34:36.580 lady and to draw

00:34:37.500 attention at this

00:34:38.260 evidence.

00:34:39.180 Number two is to

00:34:40.120 continue to connect

00:34:41.240 priests that I know

00:34:42.620 whose names you

00:34:43.260 might recognize

00:34:43.960 who actually agree

00:34:45.240 with it,

00:34:45.820 who now have a

00:34:47.180 conscience problem

00:34:47.960 because when they

00:34:48.620 pronounce the words

00:34:49.420 Francis,

00:34:50.060 our Pope,

00:34:50.520 and whoever,

00:34:51.300 our bishop in the

00:34:52.380 mass,

00:34:53.480 they have a problem

00:34:56.480 because they don't

00:34:57.520 believe it's true.

00:34:59.120 And the old

00:34:59.720 commercial used to say,

00:35:00.600 friends don't let

00:35:01.140 friends drive drunk.

00:35:01.900 Well,

00:35:02.140 friends don't let

00:35:02.640 friends lie in public

00:35:03.400 either.

00:35:04.740 The day that such a

00:35:05.720 priest would come out

00:35:06.520 and say,

00:35:07.200 I can't pronounce

00:35:07.840 these words,

00:35:08.480 is probably the day

00:35:09.600 that he'll have his

00:35:10.720 faculty suspended

00:35:11.560 by his local ordinary.

00:35:12.860 And that will also

00:35:14.040 draw an abundance of

00:35:15.480 attention at the

00:35:16.260 evidence itself.

00:35:18.320 The final,

00:35:19.080 you could say the

00:35:19.760 final,

00:35:20.240 the third prong of

00:35:21.000 this approach is to

00:35:22.200 get this evidence to

00:35:23.560 the cardinals whose

00:35:24.820 job it is to

00:35:26.240 adjudicate and settle

00:35:27.300 this definitively.

00:35:28.100 And that is the

00:35:29.120 cardinals that were

00:35:29.680 appointed by John

00:35:30.380 Paul II and

00:35:31.520 Benedict XVI.

00:35:32.540 The 80 plus that

00:35:33.640 Francis has given us

00:35:34.620 are the result of an

00:35:36.300 invalid anti-Pope's

00:35:37.660 actions.

00:35:38.100 They don't count.

00:35:40.560 Wow.

00:35:41.560 Well,

00:35:42.180 let me get to this

00:35:43.000 because this is

00:35:43.740 obviously hugely

00:35:45.160 controversial.

00:35:46.040 We had on Dr.

00:35:47.320 Edmund Mazza,

00:35:48.140 who of course gave us

00:35:49.240 some of this evidence

00:35:49.920 as well.

00:35:51.340 But there are some

00:35:52.980 very,

00:35:53.820 very confusing parts.

00:35:54.880 And I'll throw one

00:35:58.720 at you.

00:35:59.820 So you will notice

00:36:01.220 that Pope Benedict

00:36:02.720 has several times

00:36:05.220 now,

00:36:05.780 I remember very

00:36:06.620 distinctly the one

00:36:07.360 at his birthday,

00:36:08.860 but has praised

00:36:10.540 Pope Francis

00:36:11.460 in ways that almost

00:36:13.480 seemed like he was

00:36:14.600 idolizing him,

00:36:15.920 being so over

00:36:16.700 thankful.

00:36:17.960 And these public

00:36:18.860 occasions where we

00:36:20.660 really don't hear from

00:36:21.920 Pope Benedict anymore,

00:36:23.420 but all of a sudden

00:36:24.080 he speaks,

00:36:24.560 and it's to speak

00:36:25.960 in this way,

00:36:27.580 kind of like,

00:36:28.540 oh,

00:36:28.820 extolling Pope Francis

00:36:30.600 and so on and so forth.

00:36:32.140 What is that supposed

00:36:33.300 to mean?

00:36:34.680 Especially

00:36:35.160 if,

00:36:36.980 as you suggest,

00:36:38.020 he has this

00:36:39.360 other agenda.

00:36:40.740 He's actually

00:36:41.780 trying to

00:36:42.860 do the right thing

00:36:44.040 here

00:36:44.320 and somehow

00:36:45.520 demonstrate that

00:36:46.300 this is a falsehood.

00:36:47.460 So how are we

00:36:48.600 to make sense of that?

00:36:50.000 I think it's very

00:36:50.980 important on this point,

00:36:52.040 which is,

00:36:52.620 I'm glad you brought

00:36:53.720 it up,

00:36:54.080 John Henry,

00:36:54.560 to go back

00:36:55.220 to the text

00:36:55.800 of what he said

00:36:56.540 and to realize

00:36:57.780 that everything

00:36:58.460 that Pope Benedict XVI

00:37:00.080 said goes through

00:37:01.840 at least one

00:37:02.600 and usually two

00:37:03.460 filters.

00:37:04.880 The interpretation

00:37:06.780 or the memory

00:37:08.180 of Archbishop

00:37:10.480 Georg Ganschwein,

00:37:11.560 his longtime

00:37:12.260 personal secretary,

00:37:13.800 or Peter Seywald,

00:37:15.580 the journalist

00:37:16.060 who has interviewed

00:37:17.140 him in many

00:37:17.760 Q&A format books,

00:37:19.540 or the Vatican

00:37:21.300 press office.

00:37:23.180 I'm not

00:37:23.600 automatically

00:37:24.120 saying these

00:37:24.820 are deceptive

00:37:25.440 men or that

00:37:26.220 they're not

00:37:26.800 telling the truth,

00:37:27.940 but as they

00:37:29.220 say in

00:37:29.620 scripture studies,

00:37:30.660 we don't

00:37:30.980 necessarily have

00:37:31.700 the ipsisima verba

00:37:32.920 of the man

00:37:33.620 himself.

00:37:34.700 I noticed a lot

00:37:35.380 of the photos

00:37:36.000 that they release

00:37:37.440 of Pope Benedict.

00:37:38.680 It's almost like

00:37:39.600 they're doing

00:37:40.800 a Joe Rogan

00:37:41.520 on him.

00:37:41.880 Remember the

00:37:42.320 photos that

00:37:42.940 they kind of

00:37:43.720 made Joe Rogan

00:37:44.780 look sick

00:37:45.460 because he

00:37:46.020 was pro

00:37:47.280 ivermectin.

00:37:48.680 Some of them

00:37:49.280 he looks almost

00:37:49.840 corpse-like,

00:37:50.580 very kind of

00:37:51.080 strange,

00:37:51.640 unflattering

00:37:52.100 photos,

00:37:52.660 and I think

00:37:53.300 to myself,

00:37:53.820 why are they

00:37:54.140 doing this

00:37:54.520 to him?

00:37:55.320 Why this

00:37:56.300 sort of

00:37:56.580 public

00:37:56.880 humiliation?

00:37:58.600 And I

00:37:59.240 think Pope

00:38:00.380 Benedict XVI

00:38:00.980 is a Christian.

00:38:02.600 I had the

00:38:03.220 unmerited grace

00:38:03.900 of meeting him,

00:38:04.560 spending some

00:38:05.040 time,

00:38:05.460 not long,

00:38:06.400 but it was

00:38:07.300 enough to get

00:38:07.820 a sense of

00:38:08.440 this man's

00:38:09.560 interior peace,

00:38:10.760 his serenity.

00:38:11.780 He was tired

00:38:12.260 the day that

00:38:12.680 I spoke with

00:38:13.420 him,

00:38:13.600 introduced him

00:38:14.060 to my late

00:38:14.520 father.

00:38:15.460 Jack,

00:38:16.500 after which

00:38:17.140 my poor dad

00:38:17.740 sobbed for an

00:38:18.420 hour.

00:38:18.800 He was so

00:38:19.440 overwhelming

00:38:20.020 meeting the

00:38:20.460 vicar of

00:38:20.800 Christ.

00:38:22.200 I think

00:38:23.040 he's walking

00:38:24.280 a line

00:38:24.880 that involves

00:38:26.580 mental reservation

00:38:27.680 where he's

00:38:28.940 not deceiving

00:38:29.680 the universal

00:38:30.240 church.

00:38:31.120 What he's

00:38:31.380 doing is

00:38:31.740 saying things

00:38:32.540 that are

00:38:32.900 true as

00:38:33.620 far as

00:38:33.980 they go,

00:38:34.860 and he

00:38:36.420 doesn't want

00:38:37.040 to disclose

00:38:37.640 everything

00:38:38.400 because he's

00:38:39.500 still in the

00:38:40.280 middle of

00:38:40.600 this impeded

00:38:41.380 sea.

00:38:42.760 Patrick,

00:38:43.140 if you could

00:38:43.480 explain for

00:38:44.100 us what do

00:38:45.040 you mean by

00:38:45.440 an impeded

00:38:46.300 sea?

00:38:48.020 An impeded

00:38:48.800 sea is a

00:38:50.020 situation of

00:38:53.180 ecclesial life

00:38:54.060 in which the

00:38:55.300 papacy is not

00:38:56.960 public, it's

00:38:57.820 not exercised,

00:38:59.160 it's born by

00:39:01.260 the person of

00:39:01.820 the pope, but

00:39:03.140 in a hidden

00:39:04.200 way that's not

00:39:05.340 public, such

00:39:06.520 that the

00:39:06.880 anti-pope who

00:39:08.340 succeeds the

00:39:09.560 true pope in

00:39:10.880 an impeded

00:39:11.360 sea is doing

00:39:12.240 so under a

00:39:13.040 non-canonical

00:39:13.700 status so

00:39:14.440 that his

00:39:14.780 so-called

00:39:15.460 pontifical acts

00:39:16.240 are null and

00:39:17.120 void.

00:39:18.480 And beyond

00:39:18.960 that, it's

00:39:19.720 speculation.

00:39:20.700 I don't want

00:39:21.060 to get over

00:39:21.480 my skis and

00:39:22.320 I try to

00:39:23.140 carefully

00:39:23.380 distinguish

00:39:23.900 between what

00:39:24.420 I think is

00:39:24.860 going on in

00:39:25.900 this particular

00:39:26.320 situation and

00:39:27.200 what I can

00:39:27.580 prove using

00:39:28.320 black and

00:39:28.880 white quotes

00:39:29.400 that are

00:39:29.700 either on

00:39:30.080 video or

00:39:30.720 from someone's

00:39:31.480 literal hand.

00:39:32.440 When it

00:39:32.740 comes to the

00:39:33.340 remarks that

00:39:34.220 Benedict has

00:39:36.080 made about

00:39:36.580 Francis, that's

00:39:37.860 harder to

00:39:38.460 discern.

00:39:38.880 One

00:39:40.120 counterexample

00:39:40.920 might be

00:39:42.200 Pope Benedict's

00:39:43.140 deciding to

00:39:44.560 not validate

00:39:45.840 or endorse

00:39:47.140 the summary

00:39:48.120 books written

00:39:50.460 by Francis.

00:39:51.960 Remember that

00:39:52.780 a few years

00:39:53.480 ago?

00:39:54.540 Monsignor

00:39:54.880 Dario

00:39:55.160 Vigano, no

00:39:55.940 relation to

00:39:56.520 Archbishop

00:39:56.980 Carlo Maria

00:39:57.460 Vigano,

00:39:58.520 infamously

00:39:59.540 blurred out

00:40:00.560 the part

00:40:01.100 where Pope

00:40:01.940 Benedict says

00:40:03.060 nah, no

00:40:03.760 thanks.

00:40:04.580 That was a

00:40:05.260 scandal.

00:40:05.640 That was an

00:40:06.060 open lie

00:40:06.680 for which he

00:40:07.700 was removed,

00:40:08.460 but then

00:40:08.840 promoted

00:40:09.160 later.

00:40:10.280 So I

00:40:11.120 don't think

00:40:11.560 it's clear

00:40:11.960 cut that

00:40:12.580 Pope Benedict

00:40:13.760 XVI is full

00:40:14.720 of praise.

00:40:15.520 While I

00:40:15.880 remember it

00:40:16.320 very clearly,

00:40:16.920 I think our

00:40:18.140 audience would

00:40:18.640 appreciate hearing

00:40:19.720 that specifically

00:40:20.660 once again.

00:40:21.480 Several years

00:40:22.180 ago, the

00:40:23.180 man who was

00:40:24.460 appointed to

00:40:24.980 run the

00:40:25.220 Vatican press

00:40:25.760 office, his

00:40:26.600 name is

00:40:26.860 Monsignor

00:40:27.240 Dario

00:40:27.760 Vigano,

00:40:28.900 it's a

00:40:29.120 different family

00:40:29.720 from the

00:40:30.140 American

00:40:30.980 former

00:40:31.660 papal

00:40:32.360 nuncio,

00:40:34.280 they were

00:40:34.860 trying to

00:40:35.240 get the

00:40:35.460 endorsement

00:40:35.900 of Pope

00:40:37.420 Emeritus,

00:40:37.920 which is

00:40:38.460 an

00:40:38.640 anti-canonical

00:40:39.360 term with

00:40:40.040 no precedent.

00:40:41.260 And by the

00:40:41.500 way, the

00:40:41.720 word emeritus

00:40:42.380 means he

00:40:43.440 who merits

00:40:44.720 the office

00:40:45.460 doesn't just

00:40:46.340 mean retired

00:40:47.160 or ex.

00:40:47.920 He's not

00:40:48.380 called the

00:40:48.720 ex-pope,

00:40:49.540 although Google,

00:40:50.220 this is another

00:40:50.680 thing that Andrea

00:40:51.440 Cianci has

00:40:52.120 pointed out,

00:40:53.060 Google have

00:40:53.520 modified their

00:40:54.260 search, now

00:40:54.800 he's the

00:40:55.140 ex-pope.

00:40:55.900 That's another

00:40:56.440 talk for

00:40:57.340 another day.

00:40:58.420 They were

00:40:58.640 trying to

00:40:59.060 enlist the

00:40:59.700 good name and

00:41:00.260 reputation of

00:41:01.500 Pope Benedict

00:41:02.000 XVI to

00:41:02.840 endorse a

00:41:03.660 series of

00:41:04.140 books containing

00:41:05.660 the theology of

00:41:06.300 Francis, for

00:41:06.840 lack of a

00:41:07.400 better phrase.

00:41:08.280 Pope Benedict

00:41:08.680 wrote a

00:41:09.040 handwritten,

00:41:09.840 thank you very

00:41:10.320 much, I'm

00:41:11.180 quite busy with

00:41:11.860 my writing

00:41:12.780 projects, etc.

00:41:13.820 I gently

00:41:14.800 decline, God

00:41:15.700 bless.

00:41:17.400 Well, much

00:41:18.760 was made of

00:41:19.540 that as

00:41:21.340 though Benedict

00:41:22.420 was still in a

00:41:23.500 sort of way

00:41:24.040 lending his

00:41:24.760 moral authority

00:41:25.460 to get rubber

00:41:27.040 stamped these

00:41:27.640 books that

00:41:28.040 contain the

00:41:28.560 theology of

00:41:29.180 Francis.

00:41:29.520 Now, Benedict

00:41:30.620 is a

00:41:31.300 renowned biblical

00:41:32.860 scholar.

00:41:34.420 There's no

00:41:34.800 way he could

00:41:35.280 endorse the

00:41:36.640 I just call

00:41:38.620 it Franciscan

00:41:39.800 word salad that

00:41:40.880 Francis produces.

00:41:41.900 Literally, when

00:41:42.700 he speaks to

00:41:43.200 him, when he

00:41:43.380 writes, I

00:41:43.820 have no idea

00:41:44.620 what he's

00:41:44.960 saying.

00:41:45.380 I literally

00:41:45.840 do not know

00:41:46.340 what this

00:41:46.620 man believes.

00:41:47.960 So that's

00:41:48.900 an attempt to

00:41:49.820 kind of enlist

00:41:51.480 him to sell

00:41:52.540 books on

00:41:52.920 Francis, and

00:41:53.520 he gently

00:41:54.100 declined.

00:41:54.500 So that

00:41:55.820 would be a

00:41:56.440 counterexample

00:41:57.060 to the

00:41:57.680 presupposition

00:41:58.340 here, or

00:41:59.220 the claim

00:41:59.700 that Benedict

00:42:01.200 is just full

00:42:02.080 of peons of

00:42:02.920 praise for

00:42:03.440 the great

00:42:04.880 Oz.

00:42:06.200 To get back

00:42:07.660 to your

00:42:08.060 specific example

00:42:08.920 of what

00:42:09.160 happened, when

00:42:10.560 they showed

00:42:11.620 the photos

00:42:12.520 of the

00:42:13.600 letters from

00:42:14.960 Benedict, so

00:42:16.400 called endorsing

00:42:17.020 the book,

00:42:17.500 they actually

00:42:19.880 blurred out

00:42:20.820 the portion

00:42:22.680 where he

00:42:23.980 says,

00:42:24.500 thanks, but

00:42:25.120 no thanks.

00:42:26.760 And then

00:42:27.640 that, of

00:42:28.160 course, got

00:42:28.640 caught in

00:42:29.100 our great

00:42:29.780 world of

00:42:30.660 social media

00:42:31.780 and people

00:42:32.080 paying attention,

00:42:32.780 at least some

00:42:33.120 attention, they

00:42:34.000 noticed, hey,

00:42:34.520 something's wrong

00:42:35.220 with that.

00:42:36.140 And that was

00:42:36.760 a big scandal

00:42:37.300 for which

00:42:37.980 Dario

00:42:39.220 Vigano was

00:42:40.760 removed from

00:42:41.440 office, and

00:42:41.980 then, as

00:42:42.300 you said,

00:42:43.120 appointed later

00:42:44.040 on to

00:42:45.060 another higher

00:42:45.540 post.

00:42:46.620 John Henry,

00:42:47.200 that's sort

00:42:47.500 of like you

00:42:48.200 see a movie

00:42:48.880 poster and

00:42:49.720 a movie

00:42:50.580 critic says,

00:42:51.660 quote,

00:42:52.060 dot, dot,

00:42:52.440 dot, a

00:42:52.860 great movie.

00:42:53.600 So you

00:42:54.420 go see it

00:42:54.940 and it's

00:42:55.440 awful, and

00:42:56.420 then you

00:42:56.860 want your

00:42:57.180 money back,

00:42:57.680 and then you

00:42:58.000 go back to

00:42:58.400 the review

00:42:58.840 itself, and

00:42:59.720 it says,

00:43:00.220 such and

00:43:00.860 such is not

00:43:01.480 a great

00:43:01.760 movie.

00:43:02.320 Just blur

00:43:03.460 out the

00:43:03.720 not part.

00:43:06.300 Unbelievable.

00:43:07.860 Okay, so

00:43:09.700 this is still

00:43:12.260 a hugely

00:43:13.000 hard pill to

00:43:13.820 swallow, because

00:43:14.720 it's so,

00:43:17.040 I mean, it

00:43:19.200 makes sense

00:43:19.700 of a lot

00:43:21.300 of the

00:43:22.680 actual

00:43:23.420 happenings,

00:43:24.360 but to

00:43:25.300 think that

00:43:25.960 there is

00:43:26.720 sort of

00:43:27.340 this game

00:43:27.860 being played

00:43:28.480 out with

00:43:30.000 Benedict at

00:43:31.740 his super

00:43:33.200 advanced age

00:43:34.220 and frailty,

00:43:35.700 wow.

00:43:39.440 Where does

00:43:40.120 this make

00:43:40.600 you go in

00:43:41.640 your thoughts

00:43:42.200 about the

00:43:42.700 church currently?

00:43:43.220 gratitude for

00:43:46.120 this great

00:43:46.560 man who

00:43:47.780 gave his

00:43:48.180 life for

00:43:48.560 Jesus Christ

00:43:49.240 as a

00:43:49.620 priest.

00:43:50.660 Gratitude for

00:43:51.580 the kind of

00:43:52.780 courage that

00:43:53.240 he mustered

00:43:53.740 in doing

00:43:54.260 this.

00:43:55.280 I do not

00:43:55.960 regard him

00:43:56.440 as a liar

00:43:57.260 or a

00:43:57.740 coward.

00:43:58.500 I think he

00:43:59.060 is a

00:43:59.660 weakened king

00:44:01.320 who had no

00:44:02.220 support when

00:44:02.740 he needed it

00:44:03.200 most.

00:44:04.200 He referred

00:44:04.620 to his

00:44:04.920 enemies in

00:44:05.380 his very

00:44:05.940 first homily

00:44:06.840 mid-April

00:44:07.920 2005,

00:44:09.760 pray that I

00:44:10.320 might not

00:44:10.960 flee out of

00:44:12.260 fear of the

00:44:12.680 wolves.

00:44:13.220 He was a

00:44:13.980 man who

00:44:14.220 does know

00:44:15.420 his own

00:44:15.740 frailty.

00:44:17.360 And he

00:44:18.000 mentions in

00:44:18.660 that declaratio

00:44:19.500 that he

00:44:20.900 is letting

00:44:21.440 go of

00:44:22.060 the words

00:44:23.980 and the

00:44:24.280 deeds,

00:44:24.800 but not

00:44:25.700 the prayer

00:44:26.180 and the

00:44:26.560 suffering.

00:44:26.920 He mentions

00:44:27.280 four

00:44:27.700 characteristics

00:44:28.300 of what

00:44:28.680 he's doing,

00:44:29.560 words and

00:44:30.000 deeds,

00:44:30.560 but also

00:44:30.920 prayer and

00:44:31.500 suffering.

00:44:32.400 As he

00:44:32.760 said,

00:44:33.060 he has

00:44:33.280 not left

00:44:33.980 the

00:44:34.400 crucified

00:44:34.760 Lord,

00:44:35.140 but rather

00:44:35.540 is participating

00:44:36.480 in his

00:44:37.420 redemptive

00:44:37.960 sacrifice as

00:44:39.280 a co-redeemer,

00:44:40.700 so to speak.

00:44:41.520 Suffering so

00:44:42.280 close to

00:44:42.880 for my

00:44:44.660 money,

00:44:44.880 the worst

00:44:45.140 papacy or

00:44:46.120 pretend

00:44:46.520 papacy in

00:44:47.100 history.

00:44:48.520 How that

00:44:49.180 man must

00:44:49.560 be suffering,

00:44:50.200 how he

00:44:50.480 must do

00:44:51.020 daily face

00:44:52.740 palms,

00:44:53.140 we'll never

00:44:53.440 know.

00:44:53.880 He's

00:44:54.040 perhaps

00:44:56.040 prisoner of

00:44:56.600 the Vatican

00:44:56.940 is an

00:44:57.260 overstatement,

00:44:58.080 but he's

00:44:58.620 not free

00:45:00.780 to speak

00:45:02.880 his mind

00:45:03.360 fully.

00:45:04.540 Remember

00:45:04.860 when

00:45:05.180 Daniels

00:45:06.020 said in

00:45:08.380 an interview

00:45:08.780 that he

00:45:09.680 sort of

00:45:09.960 chortled

00:45:10.380 that the

00:45:10.780 St.

00:45:10.960 Gallen

00:45:11.180 mafia

00:45:11.440 were

00:45:11.680 sort

00:45:11.880 of a

00:45:12.100 mafia

00:45:12.380 club.

00:45:13.120 That was

00:45:13.760 kind of

00:45:14.080 true and

00:45:14.520 jokey,

00:45:14.920 but maybe

00:45:15.420 not kind

00:45:16.000 of true.

00:45:16.440 There are

00:45:16.880 reasons why

00:45:18.660 Archbishop

00:45:19.260 Viganò is

00:45:19.940 in hiding.

00:45:21.240 There's some

00:45:21.780 remorseless

00:45:22.320 people who

00:45:23.480 are a

00:45:24.760 part of

00:45:25.180 this

00:45:25.500 Vatican

00:45:26.280 under

00:45:26.520 Francis,

00:45:26.980 the globalist,

00:45:27.580 and they

00:45:30.140 don't want

00:45:31.080 voices of

00:45:31.600 dissent.

00:45:32.380 They don't

00:45:32.780 want heroic

00:45:33.360 witnesses to

00:45:34.060 Jesus Christ.

00:45:35.400 The enemies

00:45:36.080 of Christ

00:45:36.460 have never

00:45:36.840 wanted Christian

00:45:37.480 voices out

00:45:38.000 there.

00:45:38.620 So they

00:45:39.080 are banned,

00:45:40.220 they are

00:45:40.660 shunted

00:45:41.380 away,

00:45:42.120 they are

00:45:42.420 silenced

00:45:42.960 rather than

00:45:44.020 debated

00:45:44.300 directly.

00:45:45.680 And so

00:45:46.120 I regard

00:45:47.160 Pope Benedict

00:45:47.720 as a man

00:45:48.320 who did

00:45:49.560 the very

00:45:49.940 best thing

00:45:50.420 that he

00:45:50.660 could in

00:45:51.640 a way

00:45:52.000 that was

00:45:53.160 missed at

00:45:53.620 first.

00:45:54.900 And it's

00:45:55.120 not just

00:45:55.620 that he

00:45:56.160 did not

00:45:56.520 resign the

00:45:57.080 munis,

00:45:57.580 the office

00:45:58.440 of the

00:45:58.700 papacy,

00:45:59.200 which he

00:45:59.460 was required

00:45:59.880 to do

00:46:00.180 under

00:46:00.380 canon

00:46:00.600 332.2.

00:46:02.140 It's

00:46:02.520 that there

00:46:02.960 are other

00:46:03.480 Latin

00:46:03.940 declension

00:46:04.700 errors in

00:46:06.640 the text.

00:46:07.720 This is

00:46:07.960 something that

00:46:08.680 Cianci and

00:46:09.860 brother Alexis

00:46:11.100 Bonolio have

00:46:11.660 pointed out as

00:46:12.300 well.

00:46:13.140 Absolutely

00:46:13.660 impossible

00:46:14.640 given the

00:46:16.020 great and

00:46:16.920 detailed

00:46:17.300 knowledge of

00:46:17.760 Latin that

00:46:18.280 Pope Benedict

00:46:18.760 has and

00:46:20.060 had.

00:46:21.120 So I

00:46:21.580 believe that

00:46:22.200 he set a

00:46:23.240 kind of trap

00:46:23.680 for his

00:46:23.960 enemies that

00:46:24.520 he knew

00:46:24.800 would over

00:46:25.280 time

00:46:25.620 eventually be

00:46:27.120 exposed and

00:46:28.540 with it

00:46:28.960 all the

00:46:29.980 last nine

00:46:30.460 years or

00:46:30.740 how many

00:46:31.100 years the

00:46:31.540 Lord in

00:46:32.260 his providence

00:46:32.740 has for

00:46:33.640 Pope Benedict.

00:46:34.920 It will all

00:46:35.480 be disclosed

00:46:36.160 as an

00:46:36.580 impeded

00:46:37.060 C and

00:46:38.480 therefore the

00:46:39.280 acts of

00:46:39.920 Francis are

00:46:41.320 null and

00:46:41.660 void.

00:46:42.080 Now I

00:46:42.500 don't believe

00:46:43.020 this John

00:46:43.380 Henry just

00:46:43.840 because it

00:46:44.300 seems to

00:46:44.680 fit.

00:46:44.920 It's like my

00:46:45.320 wish list

00:46:45.740 scenario.

00:46:46.720 I'm doing

00:46:47.300 this for the

00:46:47.740 sake of the

00:46:48.100 truth and

00:46:48.500 the good of

00:46:48.820 the church.

00:46:49.360 I want to

00:46:50.020 be corrected.

00:46:51.140 My magic

00:46:51.700 words as a

00:46:52.140 Catholic are

00:46:52.860 Patrick here's

00:46:53.740 where you're

00:46:53.960 going wrong.

00:46:54.500 And so

00:46:55.440 far no one

00:46:55.960 has said

00:46:56.400 that in

00:46:57.000 a way that

00:46:57.520 lays much

00:46:58.560 of a glove

00:46:58.920 on the

00:46:59.160 evidence.

00:46:59.880 That's why

00:47:00.400 I have

00:47:00.840 serenity about

00:47:02.120 this.

00:47:02.620 I pray for

00:47:03.900 Francis that

00:47:04.420 he convert,

00:47:05.480 that he go

00:47:06.540 to our

00:47:06.900 Lord Jesus

00:47:07.300 Christ in

00:47:08.360 his exit

00:47:08.900 interview in

00:47:10.500 a way that

00:47:11.060 he'll eventually

00:47:11.660 see the

00:47:12.020 beatific vision.

00:47:12.700 I have no

00:47:13.100 ill will.

00:47:13.840 I don't

00:47:14.360 have bad

00:47:16.440 thoughts in

00:47:16.880 that way.

00:47:17.800 I do feel

00:47:18.420 terrible,

00:47:18.900 however, at

00:47:19.380 the great

00:47:19.700 damage that

00:47:20.160 he's done

00:47:20.540 to the

00:47:21.420 church,

00:47:21.840 not just

00:47:22.200 reputation-wise,

00:47:23.080 to the

00:47:23.980 children who

00:47:24.460 will die

00:47:24.800 of abortion

00:47:25.280 because he

00:47:25.800 refuses to

00:47:26.480 make this

00:47:27.040 the heart

00:47:27.720 of his

00:47:28.560 papacy.

00:47:29.480 I feel

00:47:29.960 terrible for

00:47:30.480 the victims

00:47:30.880 of all the

00:47:31.540 globalism,

00:47:32.320 the zero

00:47:33.020 population

00:47:33.560 people,

00:47:34.640 the profiteers

00:47:35.860 of big

00:47:36.460 pharma that

00:47:37.120 have been

00:47:37.720 directly helped

00:47:39.060 by Francis

00:47:39.700 calling the

00:47:40.600 clot shot,

00:47:41.760 the experimental

00:47:42.820 mRNA vaccine

00:47:44.440 euphemism,

00:47:46.400 injection,

00:47:47.460 a moral

00:47:47.820 obligation.

00:47:49.200 Calling that

00:47:49.680 an act of

00:47:50.380 love is a

00:47:51.440 huge tell

00:47:52.180 that we're

00:47:52.900 not dealing

00:47:53.440 with a

00:47:53.740 vicar of

00:47:54.080 Christ here.

00:47:54.880 By the

00:47:55.180 way,

00:47:55.420 vicar of

00:47:55.760 Christ is

00:47:56.280 officially

00:47:56.740 removed from

00:47:57.260 the

00:47:57.400 annuario

00:47:57.920 yearbook of

00:47:59.040 the Vatican.

00:47:59.520 He does not

00:47:59.880 want to be

00:48:00.200 called vicar of

00:48:00.740 Christ.

00:48:00.980 He hasn't

00:48:01.300 from the

00:48:01.620 night he

00:48:01.980 was revealed

00:48:04.720 on that

00:48:05.240 loggia in

00:48:05.740 St.

00:48:05.960 Peter's.

00:48:07.240 He said

00:48:07.560 something like

00:48:08.060 the church

00:48:09.980 had to go to

00:48:10.440 the ends of

00:48:10.780 the world to

00:48:11.260 find a

00:48:11.580 bishop for

00:48:12.000 Rome.

00:48:14.760 That's

00:48:15.160 either false

00:48:16.100 humility or

00:48:16.860 deliberate

00:48:17.380 confusion.

00:48:18.400 So,

00:48:18.660 John Henry,

00:48:19.060 if I may,

00:48:19.560 since I ask

00:48:20.060 Christians for

00:48:20.520 a living,

00:48:21.320 how would you

00:48:22.000 flesh out

00:48:22.840 your,

00:48:24.020 what's the

00:48:25.060 hardest,

00:48:26.520 reddest part

00:48:27.240 of the

00:48:27.680 hard red pill

00:48:28.240 for you?

00:48:34.720 Well,

00:48:35.560 in a way,

00:48:37.220 the damage

00:48:40.380 that

00:48:41.340 Benedict

00:48:42.600 caused,

00:48:44.160 even if

00:48:46.280 this scenario

00:48:47.040 is the

00:48:48.920 true scenario,

00:48:50.280 there is

00:48:52.440 massive

00:48:53.400 damage

00:48:54.100 that flows

00:48:56.700 from this.

00:48:59.120 And perhaps

00:49:00.080 you can say

00:49:00.940 there was

00:49:02.000 greater damage

00:49:02.680 that was going

00:49:03.400 to come,

00:49:03.680 whatever.

00:49:04.220 It's hard to,

00:49:05.460 that's hard to

00:49:06.000 imagine.

00:49:07.540 The damage,

00:49:08.580 because

00:49:08.920 while some

00:49:10.460 people might

00:49:11.320 see this,

00:49:12.460 it's the

00:49:14.120 minority of

00:49:14.880 minorities.

00:49:16.720 So,

00:49:17.300 for the

00:49:17.540 vast

00:49:18.020 majority,

00:49:19.940 even over

00:49:21.040 the last

00:49:21.460 nine years,

00:49:22.340 they have

00:49:23.000 lived,

00:49:23.680 and some

00:49:24.220 died,

00:49:25.620 with that

00:49:27.100 as the

00:49:27.540 new normal.

00:49:29.080 And some

00:49:29.560 have,

00:49:31.700 and I hate

00:49:32.420 to say this,

00:49:32.980 but have

00:49:33.680 converted

00:49:34.520 to this

00:49:35.340 deformation,

00:49:37.660 perhaps in

00:49:38.480 good conscience,

00:49:39.300 God willing not,

00:49:39.860 but I know

00:49:40.880 there have

00:49:41.240 been.

00:49:42.060 I've watched

00:49:42.820 as we've

00:49:45.020 seen that

00:49:45.500 happen to

00:49:46.580 good people.

00:49:48.600 For me,

00:49:49.460 that really

00:49:50.260 is the

00:49:50.640 hardest part.

00:49:53.720 I know

00:49:54.520 that you

00:49:54.820 know that

00:49:55.320 there's no

00:49:56.160 correlation

00:49:56.520 between truth

00:49:57.340 and majorities.

00:50:00.000 Do you

00:50:00.720 believe that

00:50:01.540 damage was

00:50:03.980 done under

00:50:04.460 Pope Paul

00:50:05.300 VI?

00:50:07.320 Yes,

00:50:07.920 indeed.

00:50:08.260 Would you

00:50:10.040 regard him

00:50:10.500 as a

00:50:10.820 saint?

00:50:14.080 How about

00:50:14.680 put it

00:50:14.980 this way?

00:50:16.280 Wasn't he

00:50:16.800 declared such

00:50:17.400 by Pope

00:50:17.780 Francis?

00:50:19.920 That's

00:50:20.320 right.

00:50:21.020 He was.

00:50:23.720 Under this

00:50:24.320 evidence,

00:50:24.860 under this

00:50:25.180 evidence,

00:50:26.040 he ain't

00:50:26.760 under this

00:50:27.160 evidence,

00:50:27.540 is what I'm

00:50:27.860 saying.

00:50:29.300 We could

00:50:29.840 do a

00:50:30.060 whole show.

00:50:31.540 I mean,

00:50:31.840 it got a

00:50:32.780 little bit

00:50:33.020 awkward when I

00:50:33.560 was still at

00:50:33.920 Catholic Answers

00:50:34.420 Live.

00:50:34.720 I'm not

00:50:34.960 going to

00:50:35.100 reveal any

00:50:35.860 priest names,

00:50:36.420 but I

00:50:36.860 had priests

00:50:37.840 after Francis

00:50:38.980 came to

00:50:39.360 Rome who

00:50:39.660 said,

00:50:40.680 please don't

00:50:41.480 make me

00:50:42.500 talk about

00:50:43.460 Paul VI.

00:50:45.220 At this

00:50:48.000 point,

00:50:48.780 he was

00:50:49.040 going from

00:50:50.940 venerable to

00:50:52.140 blessed Paul VI.

00:50:54.660 So there

00:50:54.960 was already

00:50:55.540 rumblings among

00:50:56.420 traditional-minded

00:50:57.000 Catholic priests

00:50:57.920 saying,

00:50:58.560 please,

00:50:58.960 I don't need

00:50:59.280 to speak

00:50:59.560 with this.

00:51:00.020 This is not

00:51:00.520 going to go

00:51:00.820 anywhere.

00:51:01.080 This is a

00:51:01.520 non-starter.

00:51:02.640 Well,

00:51:03.160 he was raised

00:51:03.880 to the

00:51:04.740 Franciscan

00:51:05.260 altars.

00:51:05.700 A man

00:51:08.180 whose last

00:51:08.800 encyclical was

00:51:09.500 Humana Vitae,

00:51:10.260 written 10

00:51:10.980 years before

00:51:11.840 he finally

00:51:12.300 died,

00:51:12.920 who witnessed

00:51:13.520 tens of

00:51:14.060 thousands of

00:51:14.900 priests and

00:51:15.580 nuns fleeing

00:51:16.480 their vows.

00:51:18.380 No priest or

00:51:19.320 bishop was

00:51:19.820 ever disciplined

00:51:20.960 for dissenting

00:51:21.620 from Humana

00:51:22.140 Vitae.

00:51:24.020 It even got

00:51:25.660 worse than

00:51:26.120 that.

00:51:26.860 If you

00:51:27.420 recall,

00:51:28.400 one of the

00:51:29.380 bishops who

00:51:30.040 tried to

00:51:30.800 discipline a

00:51:32.120 priest for

00:51:32.560 going against

00:51:33.500 Humana Vitae

00:51:34.960 got basically

00:51:37.680 spanked by

00:51:38.280 the Vatican

00:51:38.680 so that

00:51:40.220 it was even

00:51:42.120 the opposite

00:51:42.640 of what you

00:51:44.040 were saying,

00:51:44.440 just crazy

00:51:45.620 stuff.

00:51:46.300 Right.

00:51:46.580 The Winnipeg

00:51:47.120 statement from

00:51:47.740 the Canadian

00:51:48.140 bishops was

00:51:49.060 not opposed in

00:51:50.560 any way by

00:51:51.020 Francis,

00:51:51.420 which allowed

00:51:51.940 a huge loophole.

00:51:53.180 I talk about

00:51:53.600 this in my book,

00:51:54.660 The Contraception

00:51:55.320 Deception.

00:51:56.060 I don't know

00:51:56.420 why I remember

00:51:56.860 certain things.

00:51:57.600 It's section

00:51:58.380 126 of the

00:51:59.600 Winnipeg

00:52:00.000 statement.

00:52:00.920 Basically,

00:52:01.300 it's a

00:52:01.880 truck-sized

00:52:02.460 hole.

00:52:03.200 If you

00:52:03.380 follow your

00:52:03.800 good conscience

00:52:04.300 and you

00:52:04.640 try your

00:52:04.920 best,

00:52:05.280 then you

00:52:05.600 contracept in

00:52:06.640 good conscience.

00:52:08.200 Just a

00:52:08.480 disaster.

00:52:08.520 Not taken

00:52:09.340 up by

00:52:09.920 Paul VI

00:52:10.580 at all.

00:52:11.460 Correct.

00:52:11.940 Correct.

00:52:12.440 No one was

00:52:13.720 clamoring for

00:52:14.460 the destruction

00:52:15.000 of the

00:52:15.260 traditional

00:52:15.580 Latin mass.

00:52:16.180 That was a

00:52:16.600 top-down

00:52:17.240 oligarchic

00:52:18.140 decision to

00:52:18.900 install the

00:52:20.000 Novus

00:52:20.300 Ordo

00:52:20.540 Missae in

00:52:21.000 1969 and

00:52:21.940 70.

00:52:22.400 No one was

00:52:23.060 clamoring for

00:52:23.660 communion in

00:52:24.620 the hand.

00:52:25.520 In fact,

00:52:25.960 the council

00:52:26.340 fathers voted

00:52:27.060 in this.

00:52:28.080 I think the

00:52:28.560 context was

00:52:29.120 Sacrosanctum

00:52:29.840 Concilian,

00:52:30.480 the sacred

00:52:30.840 document on

00:52:31.400 the liturgy,

00:52:32.480 and 80%

00:52:33.380 said,

00:52:33.780 no way,

00:52:34.160 we can't

00:52:34.600 give Holy

00:52:34.940 Communion in

00:52:35.940 the hand.

00:52:36.900 That would

00:52:38.680 be another

00:52:39.080 example of

00:52:40.200 an invalid

00:52:42.180 papal act

00:52:42.760 of Francis

00:52:43.200 that I

00:52:43.680 don't regard

00:52:44.240 as authoritative.

00:52:45.860 To me,

00:52:46.420 it's a

00:52:47.500 non-issue.

00:52:48.760 I'm with you

00:52:49.420 on the

00:52:49.640 confusion,

00:52:50.280 which is why

00:52:50.700 I continually

00:52:51.180 talk about

00:52:51.740 this,

00:52:52.060 why I'm

00:52:52.300 writing a

00:52:53.120 book about

00:52:53.560 this.

00:52:54.260 I don't

00:52:54.660 want to

00:52:54.880 just sit

00:52:55.200 and twiddle

00:52:55.480 my thumbs

00:52:55.900 and hope

00:52:56.380 for the

00:52:56.620 best.

00:52:57.160 I do

00:52:57.460 want to

00:52:57.720 provide the

00:52:58.180 counter-narrative

00:52:58.820 that I

00:52:59.180 believe is

00:52:59.640 faithful to

00:53:00.560 the gospel

00:53:01.040 and to

00:53:01.560 the witness

00:53:02.020 of Benedict

00:53:03.040 XVI.

00:53:03.660 I'll let

00:53:04.300 the good

00:53:05.100 Lord and

00:53:05.480 his providence

00:53:06.040 sort out

00:53:07.160 losses and

00:53:09.000 gains and

00:53:09.840 damage done.

00:53:11.220 I have no

00:53:12.200 way of

00:53:12.460 knowing what

00:53:13.000 that equation

00:53:13.540 really looks

00:53:13.980 like in

00:53:14.600 the light

00:53:15.160 of providence.

00:53:18.620 Final

00:53:19.180 question for

00:53:19.660 you,

00:53:19.760 Patrick.

00:53:21.520 Your own

00:53:22.500 faith life,

00:53:23.100 are you

00:53:26.680 seeing it

00:53:27.360 as negatively

00:53:28.360 impacted

00:53:29.060 by this?

00:53:31.560 When I

00:53:32.340 was first

00:53:32.840 uncovering

00:53:33.820 it all,

00:53:34.240 especially

00:53:34.560 going

00:53:34.960 through

00:53:35.800 the

00:53:37.140 St.

00:53:37.360 Gallen

00:53:37.560 Mafia

00:53:37.960 nefarious

00:53:39.640 acts and

00:53:40.440 their schemes,

00:53:42.020 when it

00:53:42.720 first entered

00:53:43.160 my mind,

00:53:43.880 maybe he's

00:53:44.400 an antipope,

00:53:45.540 my first

00:53:46.160 thought,

00:53:46.560 frankly,

00:53:46.980 was fear.

00:53:47.940 it scared

00:53:49.440 me,

00:53:50.360 because I

00:53:51.120 had never

00:53:51.880 read

00:53:52.320 Estefania

00:53:53.320 Acosta's

00:53:53.840 book.

00:53:54.080 I wasn't

00:53:55.140 exposed to

00:53:56.120 the evidence

00:53:56.560 about the

00:53:56.920 declaratio,

00:53:58.020 and there

00:53:58.520 was a

00:53:58.760 kind of

00:53:59.260 shudder

00:54:00.060 went through

00:54:00.460 me,

00:54:00.720 a sort

00:54:00.960 of,

00:54:01.740 no way.

00:54:03.360 My first

00:54:03.900 thought was

00:54:04.280 millions of

00:54:05.340 souls,

00:54:05.900 scandalized,

00:54:06.740 faith lost,

00:54:07.580 there's no

00:54:08.040 real pope,

00:54:08.600 now what?

00:54:10.220 But

00:54:10.560 discovering

00:54:12.100 that we do

00:54:12.820 have a pope,

00:54:13.800 we don't

00:54:14.160 have an

00:54:14.460 empty chair,

00:54:15.280 we have an

00:54:15.760 impeded sea,

00:54:17.440 exquisite

00:54:17.940 one might

00:54:19.200 say elegantly

00:54:19.840 designed,

00:54:21.480 as was his

00:54:21.920 want and

00:54:22.240 other things,

00:54:23.720 by Pope

00:54:24.780 Benedict XVI.

00:54:25.820 My faith in

00:54:26.720 Christ and

00:54:27.200 his church

00:54:27.600 is stronger.

00:54:29.200 I see the

00:54:29.720 hand of

00:54:30.060 God's

00:54:30.480 protecting

00:54:31.200 providence,

00:54:33.700 not leaving

00:54:34.620 me an orphan,

00:54:35.420 or nor you

00:54:35.880 an orphan.

00:54:36.700 We've been

00:54:37.060 through 30

00:54:37.700 plus antipopes

00:54:38.680 in history,

00:54:39.080 and sometimes

00:54:39.540 there were

00:54:39.800 two or

00:54:40.160 three vying

00:54:41.240 for that

00:54:41.620 title in

00:54:43.160 real time.

00:54:44.440 So this

00:54:45.020 is a lot

00:54:45.400 more clear

00:54:45.780 cut than

00:54:46.160 even past

00:54:46.880 controversies,

00:54:47.580 that had

00:54:48.180 to do

00:54:48.400 with antipopes.

00:54:49.160 So there's

00:54:50.500 nothing new

00:54:50.900 under the

00:54:51.200 Catholic sun.

00:54:51.880 This is not

00:54:52.280 our first

00:54:52.680 rodeo.

00:54:53.140 We will

00:54:53.460 get through

00:54:53.840 this.

00:54:54.600 There are

00:54:55.180 people,

00:54:56.340 very intelligent

00:54:57.060 people,

00:54:57.780 who are

00:54:58.300 coming to

00:54:58.740 see it,

00:54:59.640 people who

00:55:00.140 when they

00:55:01.160 do go

00:55:01.480 public,

00:55:02.380 the momentum

00:55:03.840 around the

00:55:04.420 world is

00:55:04.880 going to

00:55:05.120 gather,

00:55:05.840 and this

00:55:06.120 is going

00:55:06.360 to be

00:55:06.540 something

00:55:06.800 that the

00:55:07.240 cardinals

00:55:08.680 appointed by

00:55:09.400 Pope

00:55:10.200 John Paul II

00:55:10.840 and Pope

00:55:11.480 Benedict will

00:55:12.220 meet in

00:55:13.080 what's called

00:55:13.480 an imperfect

00:55:13.980 synod or

00:55:14.500 an imperfect

00:55:14.980 council,

00:55:15.600 such as

00:55:16.160 was done

00:55:16.480 in the

00:55:16.680 mid-11th

00:55:17.820 century at

00:55:18.180 the council

00:55:18.580 of Sutri.

00:55:19.620 You can look

00:55:20.000 that up.

00:55:20.520 It's a very

00:55:20.840 interesting way

00:55:22.140 the church has

00:55:22.800 settled this

00:55:23.740 definitively.

00:55:24.960 In the

00:55:25.480 meantime,

00:55:26.380 John Henry

00:55:27.200 and your

00:55:27.520 viewers,

00:55:28.180 Jesus Christ

00:55:28.940 came to

00:55:29.260 take away

00:55:29.620 our sins,

00:55:30.420 not our

00:55:30.880 minds.

00:55:31.400 We're

00:55:31.620 supposed to

00:55:31.960 use our

00:55:32.300 mental muscles

00:55:32.960 and figure

00:55:33.900 this out.

00:55:34.860 We have

00:55:35.460 access to

00:55:36.100 Logos,

00:55:36.560 and Logos

00:55:37.040 is always

00:55:37.540 rising.

00:55:38.200 It's

00:55:38.580 intelligible,

00:55:39.380 and here

00:55:39.800 it's hiding

00:55:40.640 in plain sight.

00:55:41.280 Wow.

00:55:44.460 Patrick

00:55:44.860 Coffin,

00:55:45.260 thank you so

00:55:45.720 much for

00:55:45.980 being with

00:55:46.300 us on

00:55:46.580 the John

00:55:47.220 Henry

00:55:47.440 Weston

00:55:47.740 Show.

00:55:48.420 Thanks for

00:55:48.920 your time,

00:55:49.320 John Henry.

00:55:49.880 God bless you.

00:55:50.440 Keep up the

00:55:50.800 great work.

00:55:52.280 God bless you,

00:55:53.660 and God bless

00:55:54.680 all of you.

00:55:55.700 We'll see you

00:55:56.300 next time.

The John-Henry Westen Show - May 04, 2022

Why Pope Francis' election could be invalid according to John Paul II document

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