The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - 339. The Future： Vision and Invitation

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00:00:57.420 Hi everybody.

00:01:10.420 On January 27th, I announced on Joe Rogan's show that I had been working with a group of people in the UK and Europe and Australia and New Zealand and Canada and the US

00:01:25.760 to organize a series of questions about how we might want to conduct ourselves and what we might want to happen individually and collectively as we move forward into the future.

00:01:43.400 From the level of the individual all the way up to the level of the, say, the universal collective.

00:01:52.400 What kind of planet do we want to inhabit?

00:01:57.360 I'm going to tell you why that all came about insofar as that's possible.

00:02:06.140 So last year, I had the opportunity to tour extensively throughout North America and Europe.

00:02:16.200 And the idea to do what I'm going to tell you about today really started to make itself manifest to me when I was in Europe.

00:02:26.860 First of all, in Scandinavia, surprisingly enough.

00:02:30.080 And then in Eastern Europe, I was very fortunate when I was touring to have the support of many people who I've been privileged to meet as I've toured around the world

00:02:43.460 who were very well connected internationally.

00:02:46.540 And what happened when I was touring with Tammy, my wife, in each of these countries in Europe, was that we'd arrive in a city and the day of or the day before a talk

00:02:58.780 and we'd have the opportunity to meet for lunch or for dinner or for breakfast with 30 people from that city, from that country,

00:03:07.380 who were active and competent and influential in cultural or political or faith-based or communication domains.

00:03:18.880 And so it gave us an opportunity to get a snapshot of the local environment.

00:03:27.660 And you can't become an expert about something as complex as a city or a country in one day, obviously.

00:03:33.160 But if you have 30 people with you for a couple of hours, you can certainly at least hear about what is of concern to them and to everyone that they're in communication with.

00:03:44.860 And so one of the things we encountered continually was the puzzled questioning from especially the Eastern Europeans,

00:03:57.200 although this was also the case in Scandinavia, about just what the hell was going on in the West.

00:04:03.020 So that was probably most acute in countries like Albania.

00:04:06.060 And so Albania, just so you know, a small country, was probably the worst of the Soviet-era countries in terms of tyranny and oppression.

00:04:15.520 And that was a damn hard contest to win.

00:04:18.460 And Albania was ruled by brutally punitive dictatorial structures for, well, the entire post-war period up until 1989.

00:04:27.640 And to say it was bad is to say almost nothing.

00:04:33.720 Almost everyone was informing on everyone in Albania.

00:04:38.820 And the country is riddled with tunnels that were dug by mad, paranoid politicians

00:04:47.960 who insisted that Albania was the center of the world and that they were the inevitable target of all the jealous poor people

00:04:55.940 who were clamoring violently in potential to do nothing but to move to Albania.

00:05:04.200 Beyond belief, really, but nonetheless happened.

00:05:07.060 All these Eastern Europeans, you know, they suffered under the brutal rule of the radical left ethos from 1945, sometimes earlier, until 1989.

00:05:20.260 And then, of course, underwent quite the period of catastrophic collapse after that.

00:05:24.080 And they're looking over at the West thinking, what in the world are you people doing,

00:05:28.720 toying with these ideas when the evidence is crystal clear that they devastated the lives of 100 million people,

00:05:37.200 took the lives of 100 million people, devastated the lives of far more, and laid our countries to waste.

00:05:42.740 Don't you understand?

00:05:45.300 And so I'd certainly thought the same thing, being in the West.

00:05:49.600 And it was very interesting to see that echoed by the people whose lives had included sojourns under those systems of oppression.

00:06:00.600 Now, you might say, if you're cynical, well, you only met conservative people,

00:06:04.140 and they were just echoing back to you what you wanted to hear.

00:06:08.860 And that's actually not true, because lots of the people I met were disenchanted liberals or leftists

00:06:15.220 who were not left enough to be enamored of the communist regimes, let me say,

00:06:19.440 or who had also been canceled and mobbed by the new woke tyrants.

00:06:24.600 And so I don't think I was seeing a non-representative sample,

00:06:28.160 although, admittedly, only the people who would talk to me did.

00:06:32.520 And the other thing people told us, Tammy and I, continually,

00:06:36.640 was that they felt like voices crying in the wilderness.

00:06:39.160 But after we'd been in about six countries, we thought, well, every place we go, people say the same thing.

00:06:44.080 They're appalled by what's happening on the culture war front.

00:06:49.440 Especially with regard to the radical left.

00:06:51.220 They can't believe these ideas are making the incursions that they're making.

00:06:55.000 And they feel absolutely isolated in their attempts to do anything about it.

00:06:59.800 But, you know, when you go to eight countries and 30 people in each country tell you that,

00:07:05.080 you think, well, why aren't people coming together?

00:07:08.740 Let's say, those who occupy the moderate center, whether they happen to be conservative or classically liberal,

00:07:15.700 why aren't they coming together in some international manner to discuss exactly this problem?

00:07:25.520 Is there no overarching structure of communication that would make that possible?

00:07:31.360 So then I started thinking about, well, maybe we should organize such a thing

00:07:34.980 and bring people together for a conference somewhere in Europe, maybe in North America.

00:07:40.500 Bring people who are centrally inclined, and that would be the vast majority of people,

00:07:46.100 together so that they could share best policies and share their ideas about

00:07:49.820 what they've done in their own country that might be extremely useful if other countries duplicated it.

00:07:56.080 And to develop a vision that would be an alternative to the globalist, woke, utopian nightmare

00:08:04.260 that threatens to engulf us all.

00:08:07.460 And so I started talking about that.

00:08:10.920 Preposterous idea.

00:08:12.660 And I've talked to people about preposterous ideas before, let's say on the business front

00:08:17.040 or on the academic front.

00:08:19.900 Ideas that were of sufficient radicalness,

00:08:23.980 that they would require a fair bit of movement on people's part in order to instantiate.

00:08:29.040 And normally what you experience is that people,

00:08:32.580 especially if they are inclined to be gracious,

00:08:36.220 evince interest and even enthusiasm in the moment,

00:08:39.500 but they're already busy with their lives,

00:08:42.340 especially if they're competent people.

00:08:43.860 And so nothing really gets going.

00:08:45.520 But that isn't what happened when I started talking about this.

00:08:47.920 What happened instead was that everywhere we went,

00:08:52.700 virtually everyone,

00:08:55.280 virtually without exception,

00:08:57.020 from across the political spectrum said,

00:08:59.180 we really need something like that.

00:09:02.240 We'd be happy to help.

00:09:03.980 What could we do to help?

00:09:06.480 And we'll drop everything to make this a priority.

00:09:09.020 And I was getting serious offers of exactly that help right away.

00:09:15.440 And then that happened in the remaining Eastern European countries that we visited,

00:09:21.140 Tammy and I, so probably 10, something like that.

00:09:24.240 And then I went to the UK and discussed it with my connection network there,

00:09:27.700 which is actually quite extensive.

00:09:29.620 And exactly the same thing happened.

00:09:31.320 And then I went to Washington and I spoke not least to the Republican Study Committee,

00:09:38.220 which is the federal committee that is responsible for the formulation of Republican policy.

00:09:45.360 It has been for decades.

00:09:46.840 And people were very enthusiastic there too.

00:09:50.380 And they said, well, if you do have this conference,

00:09:52.060 make sure you have it at a time when we're not sitting and could attend,

00:09:56.440 which is, you know, the kind of response you'd really hope for.

00:09:59.080 And many people clambered on board enthusiastically.

00:10:05.260 And these are people who had other things to do, like I said.

00:10:08.160 And then I went to Australia and New Zealand and exactly the same thing happened.

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00:11:57.700 Started to formalize this with some of the people that I knew in the UK.

00:12:01.280 I was interested in doing it in the UK partly because the UK has already decided that they're not exactly part and parcel of the globalist utopian scheme, even at the European Union level.

00:12:12.640 And there's a pretty strong free speech and individuality ethos in the UK, rivaled only by the US, I would say, on the world stage.

00:12:23.000 And England is also halfway between Europe and the US, and so not such a bad meeting place.

00:12:29.660 And London is an attractive city.

00:12:31.360 And I had been working with people on the free speech front in the UK, so that seemed promising.

00:12:37.920 And I sat together with a number of people, all of whom are going to announce their participation in this project very soon, on their own time and in their own voice.

00:12:49.720 And we started to talk.

00:12:53.020 We spent, we met three different times in person, between five and 20 people.

00:13:00.400 And, well, what did we think about?

00:13:03.940 Well, we thought about

00:13:05.100 how, what we would like to have happen on the international front,

00:13:15.780 if we could have what would be best,

00:13:20.200 and not what we think is best, but what would be best,

00:13:23.160 even how to construe what would be best.

00:13:25.280 We started, and we decided that we would actually approach this by asking a sequence of questions,

00:13:29.960 rather than by delivering a sequence of answers.

00:13:33.560 And I've been working on the announcement document,

00:13:37.520 one of our announcement documents, which I'm going to read today and comment on.

00:13:41.880 And we decided that we wanted to take a decentralized approach,

00:13:46.840 which meant trying to get as much input from the public as possible.

00:13:50.800 And we're trying to build that into the architecture of the project.

00:13:54.180 And that we wanted to put forward a series of questions,

00:13:56.820 rather than a series of propositions about how the world would have to be.

00:14:00.380 And that we were also going to avoid entirely any apocalyptic notions,

00:14:06.800 refusing to accept, in principle, the notion that everything is such an emergency

00:14:13.160 that all the power should be ceded to a centralized committee to save the planet, let's say.

00:14:19.640 It's like, yeah, we don't buy that.

00:14:23.960 It's not like there's any shortage of emergencies confronting us,

00:14:26.980 because there are certainly plenty of them.

00:14:29.280 Whether that means that we should run around in a panicked, delusional state,

00:14:33.340 and centralize power in the control, in the hands of a small, hypothetically omniscient elite,

00:14:40.040 which is a completely different matter.

00:14:43.200 We'd rather rank order the problems and address them like wise and calm people.

00:14:51.160 And wise people remain calm even in a crisis.

00:14:54.200 And they certainly don't use the crisis to leverage their own grip on power.

00:15:00.440 You know, never let a crisis go to waste.

00:15:02.380 It's like, yeah, that's especially true if you're trying to clamber up the power hierarchy

00:15:08.240 and take all the control for yourself.

00:15:10.300 We're not interested in that.

00:15:12.140 You know, probably we're interested in that to the degree that we're all still unrepentant narcissists,

00:15:17.900 you know, and everybody's got a little bit of that in them.

00:15:20.320 But I tried to gather people around the table who were sensible enough not to want that,

00:15:27.740 partly because they already had pretty productive lives,

00:15:32.140 and partly because they were wise enough to know that that was a disaster in the making.

00:15:37.540 And so, you know, first of all, we thought we would put forward something approximating a vision,

00:15:43.540 and we tried to talk about the dimensions along which this vision might elaborate itself.

00:15:49.000 But then we, after thinking about a lot,

00:15:51.400 we realized it would be better to put forward an invitation to participate in a discussion

00:15:58.160 that's centered on a number of questions.

00:16:02.780 The questioning approach is a better one because it's an invitation rather than a top-down imposition

00:16:08.400 of the principles that must be.

00:16:13.380 We also decided that one of our guiding principles would be that

00:16:16.280 we're not going to formulate policies that would require compulsion

00:16:21.840 or the imposition of state power to implement.

00:16:25.920 So, like, here's an example.

00:16:27.180 We should be exhaustively searching through the universe of possible sources of energy

00:16:33.440 so that we can provide a diversity of possibilities on the energy front.

00:16:39.340 But we do not believe that anyone has the right to compel people into absolute poverty

00:16:48.120 by increasing energy prices to hypothetically achieve some environmental goal.

00:16:54.580 It's like, you want to put forward renewables, you're concerned about industrial pollution,

00:16:59.620 no problem.

00:17:00.500 But you don't get to do that as a matter of compulsion on the backs of the world's poor.

00:17:07.120 Not only because that will be very, very, very hard on poor people

00:17:10.720 and will, even according to the World Bank's own projections,

00:17:15.360 put 100 million or more at risk of starvation,

00:17:20.460 but will also be counterproductive on the environmental front

00:17:23.780 because if you stress people too badly,

00:17:26.160 they're going to start acting impulsively,

00:17:30.160 maximize the short-term return,

00:17:32.180 and you're going to produce environmental devastation.

00:17:34.960 That's exactly what happened, by the way, in Sri Lanka.

00:17:37.220 It certainly happened to Germany to some degree

00:17:39.600 as they pursued idiot green policies.

00:17:42.340 Now they have energy prices that are four to five times as much as they were.

00:17:46.760 The power supply is much more unreliable.

00:17:49.600 They're beholden to the Russians, which turned out to not be very wise.

00:17:52.700 And they're polluting more rather than less.

00:17:56.280 So even by their own standards, it's been an abject failure.

00:17:58.800 We're not walking down that route.

00:18:01.280 No compulsion involved in this enterprise.

00:18:03.840 And we'd like to have the voluntary ascent of the people governed,

00:18:07.240 you know, like you might in a democracy.

00:18:08.980 Now that's hard to do on the international scale

00:18:11.060 because we don't have the processes put in place

00:18:14.680 to do widespread public consultation.

00:18:19.200 But we can at least move in that direction

00:18:22.860 to the degree that that's possible.

00:18:24.360 We're going to throw this enterprise open to public participation

00:18:28.140 as we can manage.

00:18:30.920 And we're going to try to make everything we do

00:18:32.440 as transparent and decentralized as possible.

00:18:34.640 So in any case, we met a number of times

00:18:39.400 in person and online.

00:18:42.180 And we decided that we were going to put forward a series of questions.

00:18:45.860 And we agreed on the main areas

00:18:48.780 that we would derive the questions from.

00:18:52.680 And we know, and this is part of being transparent,

00:18:56.020 we know perfectly well that

00:18:57.260 if you're having a discussion,

00:18:59.620 what the discussion is about is the key issue.

00:19:04.520 And so if you control the questions,

00:19:08.160 you haven't abandoned all governance or principles.

00:19:15.060 You've established the playing ground.

00:19:17.620 But you can't just have everyone talk about everything.

00:19:21.120 That isn't going to work.

00:19:22.680 And so what we're striving to do

00:19:24.540 is to get a balance between the imposition of structure,

00:19:27.360 a game-like structure, let's say,

00:19:29.460 that everyone would like to play

00:19:30.640 and the acquisition of information.

00:19:33.880 And we are offering these questions genuinely

00:19:36.320 to see what we can all come up with

00:19:40.160 as answers to the questions.

00:19:43.740 And we're hoping that the vision that would emerge

00:19:45.800 as a consequence of answering these questions

00:19:47.800 would be compelling enough to people

00:19:50.760 so that they would voluntarily get on board.

00:19:54.020 No compulsion, right?

00:19:55.220 And so I'm going to read you the document.

00:19:58.260 I've been writing this document,

00:19:59.520 bandying it back and forth

00:20:00.780 with the people who are the core conspirators

00:20:05.180 or contributors,

00:20:06.300 depending on how you look at it,

00:20:07.380 to this enterprise.

00:20:10.740 It isn't a committee effort, precisely.

00:20:14.100 I wrote it in my voice.

00:20:16.540 But I passed it by a large number of the people involved

00:20:23.620 who are willing to devote some time and resources to it.

00:20:26.740 And I think that the consequence of that joint editing process

00:20:29.820 was the production of a shorter, tighter,

00:20:33.440 and hopefully more compelling story.

00:20:36.440 So I'm going to read this to you.

00:20:38.660 And I'm going to comment on it as I go.

00:20:40.980 The name of this organization,

00:20:44.020 which was probably the issue

00:20:46.420 that caused us the most trouble, actually,

00:20:49.580 was, we're calling it,

00:20:52.260 it's called the Alliance for Responsible Citizenship.

00:20:57.100 The Alliance for Responsible Citizenship.

00:21:00.580 We like that name because,

00:21:02.540 well, if you're a citizen,

00:21:04.120 then you're an autonomous individual.

00:21:05.900 And if you're a responsible citizen,

00:21:07.640 then you're the kind of autonomous individual

00:21:10.040 that can take care of yourself

00:21:11.880 and maybe some other people,

00:21:13.200 and that would be a good thing.

00:21:14.560 And if it's an alliance,

00:21:15.880 then, well, the implication there

00:21:17.960 is that citizens who are responsible

00:21:20.820 can aggregate in something

00:21:22.900 approximating responsible groups

00:21:25.400 that also take responsibility

00:21:27.220 for developing responsible citizens.

00:21:30.440 ARC, Alliance for Responsible Citizenship.

00:21:33.540 And the acronym is ARC,

00:21:35.260 and ARC is a good acronym.

00:21:37.640 It has echoes of the ARC,

00:21:39.740 the biblical ARC,

00:21:40.580 which is a container

00:21:41.940 that allows people

00:21:44.340 to withstand the trials

00:21:47.740 and tribulations of life,

00:21:49.580 to navigate through the flood,

00:21:52.080 and to preserve.

00:21:53.620 And ARC is also...

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00:23:02.660 It's like

00:23:05.400 there's a lifetime arc

00:23:08.060 which is the trajectory

00:23:09.340 moving forward

00:23:10.340 and so

00:23:10.920 arc's a good name

00:23:12.120 and so

00:23:12.540 we had to scrap about that

00:23:14.380 a fair bit

00:23:14.860 but

00:23:15.120 the consequence of that

00:23:17.020 was

00:23:17.300 well,

00:23:18.520 a name that made

00:23:19.100 everybody happier

00:23:19.880 than all the other names

00:23:21.000 that we had put forward.

00:23:22.840 So

00:23:23.060 welcome aboard the arc

00:23:26.280 if you're interested.

00:23:28.540 And this is the statement

00:23:29.500 of vision and invitation.

00:23:30.880 It starts with

00:23:33.820 I'll tell you the structure

00:23:35.920 of the proclamation

00:23:38.320 or the vision statement

00:23:39.280 first of all.

00:23:40.520 So

00:23:40.740 when I wrote my book

00:23:42.120 Maps of Meaning

00:23:42.860 I analyzed the structure

00:23:44.540 of redemptive stories

00:23:46.120 and

00:23:46.540 your life is a redemptive story

00:23:49.180 if you're fortunate

00:23:50.460 because

00:23:50.900 you have a lot of trouble

00:23:52.380 in your life

00:23:52.960 and yet

00:23:53.340 you plow through

00:23:54.480 and take care of that trouble

00:23:56.420 and that's the story

00:23:57.460 of redemption.

00:23:57.940 And the typical redemption story

00:23:59.860 is something like

00:24:00.640 there's a stable state

00:24:02.700 a stable city

00:24:03.600 a stable family

00:24:04.620 a stable plan

00:24:06.060 and then that's disrupted

00:24:07.580 by some cataclysmic event

00:24:09.440 the arrival of the barbarians

00:24:12.200 the entry of

00:24:14.960 of an interloper

00:24:17.580 into a marriage

00:24:18.440 for example

00:24:19.020 some

00:24:19.460 fracture occurs

00:24:21.220 there's a descent

00:24:22.800 into an intermediary period

00:24:24.300 of chaos

00:24:24.800 and then

00:24:26.180 there's the reestablishment

00:24:27.680 of order

00:24:29.000 that's

00:24:29.960 of a higher order

00:24:31.100 as a consequence

00:24:32.040 so you sort of go through

00:24:33.240 life like this

00:24:34.200 and hopefully

00:24:35.040 you know

00:24:35.640 order

00:24:36.300 chaos

00:24:36.840 order

00:24:37.440 chaos

00:24:38.100 order

00:24:38.520 chaos

00:24:39.020 and hopefully

00:24:39.880 as you do that

00:24:41.100 the order gets deeper

00:24:42.160 and more profound

00:24:42.940 and you get to be better

00:24:44.520 at mediating

00:24:45.400 between order and chaos

00:24:46.500 and

00:24:46.840 and this is an order

00:24:48.340 chaos story

00:24:49.160 and

00:24:49.400 it opens up with

00:24:50.960 a description

00:24:52.100 of the current state

00:24:52.960 of order

00:24:53.380 and we called that

00:24:55.000 the good news

00:24:55.720 so I'm going to read this

00:24:57.060 as I said

00:24:57.580 comment on it

00:24:58.420 life

00:24:59.040 has improved dramatically

00:25:01.460 over the past few centuries

00:25:02.920 for almost everyone

00:25:04.280 everywhere

00:25:04.800 at an ever accelerating rate

00:25:07.200 far more people

00:25:08.900 are thriving on our planet

00:25:10.120 than we could have imagined

00:25:11.160 even mere decades ago

00:25:12.420 we live longer

00:25:13.420 are increasingly

00:25:14.680 and globally literate

00:25:15.860 educated

00:25:16.580 and connected

00:25:17.380 and enjoy unparalleled access

00:25:19.260 to fresh water

00:25:20.100 food

00:25:20.480 energy

00:25:20.900 and resources

00:25:21.580 now that's

00:25:22.680 that's quite the miracle

00:25:23.680 because

00:25:24.100 back in the 1960s

00:25:25.960 when we started

00:25:26.560 to become aware

00:25:27.260 of our

00:25:27.760 increasing industrial power

00:25:30.540 and ability

00:25:31.020 to operate

00:25:31.740 at a planetary level

00:25:32.920 let's say

00:25:33.340 we started to get worried

00:25:34.340 about such things

00:25:35.180 as whether

00:25:35.700 well we were going

00:25:37.580 to overpopulate

00:25:38.260 the planet

00:25:38.700 and we were going

00:25:39.280 to run out of food

00:25:40.020 and we were going

00:25:40.500 to pollute everything

00:25:41.300 into devastation

00:25:43.140 and

00:25:43.480 you know

00:25:44.500 the whole

00:25:44.960 civilizational

00:25:46.180 endeavor

00:25:48.080 was going to

00:25:48.640 collapse

00:25:49.020 into

00:25:49.420 a degenerate

00:25:51.700 chaos

00:25:52.160 and there was

00:25:52.780 plenty of

00:25:53.180 doomsaying

00:25:53.740 at that time

00:25:54.520 plenty of

00:25:55.580 people

00:25:56.200 Paul Ehrlich

00:25:56.940 for example

00:25:57.520 at Stanford

00:25:58.060 who wrote

00:25:58.460 the population

00:25:59.060 bomb

00:25:59.440 and the Club of Rome

00:26:00.660 who were the

00:26:01.300 original apocalyptic

00:26:02.260 doomsayers

00:26:03.040 on the environmentalist

00:26:04.040 front

00:26:04.240 claiming that

00:26:04.840 by the year 2000

00:26:05.820 there'd be mass

00:26:07.440 starvation

00:26:07.920 we'd be running

00:26:08.520 out of basic

00:26:09.100 commodities

00:26:09.500 and that

00:26:10.100 life was going

00:26:11.000 to get a hell

00:26:11.460 of a lot worse

00:26:12.120 quickly

00:26:12.520 and so we better

00:26:13.840 put the brakes

00:26:14.480 to the population

00:26:15.240 growth

00:26:15.680 and de-industrialize

00:26:16.720 rapidly

00:26:17.120 or look

00:26:18.120 the hell out

00:26:18.860 and you know

00:26:20.140 none of that

00:26:20.940 turned out to be

00:26:21.640 true

00:26:21.940 and the people

00:26:23.880 who put that

00:26:24.480 vision forward

00:26:25.100 might say

00:26:25.600 well you know

00:26:26.080 it's all a matter

00:26:26.620 of time frame

00:26:27.300 eventually it's

00:26:28.140 going to come

00:26:28.660 true

00:26:28.900 and it's like

00:26:29.600 well if your

00:26:30.620 prediction is

00:26:31.340 eventually I'm

00:26:33.320 right

00:26:33.700 that's not a

00:26:35.240 very good prediction

00:26:35.860 is it

00:26:36.280 you have to

00:26:37.020 specify time frame

00:26:38.020 and Ehrlich

00:26:38.560 by the way

00:26:39.100 Paul Ehrlich

00:26:39.540 did specify

00:26:40.260 time frame

00:26:41.080 in a very famous

00:26:42.360 bet he had

00:26:43.060 with Julian Simon

00:26:45.960 the economist

00:26:46.560 and Ehrlich

00:26:47.640 lost

00:26:48.620 famously

00:26:49.280 and what's

00:26:50.340 happened actually

00:26:51.020 is that

00:26:51.380 we have way

00:26:52.240 more people

00:26:52.760 now than we

00:26:53.320 thought we

00:26:53.680 would in the

00:26:54.060 year 2000

00:26:54.740 we have way

00:26:57.820 more people

00:26:58.320 now than

00:26:59.320 people in

00:26:59.840 1965

00:27:00.540 thought would

00:27:01.600 be on the

00:27:02.020 planet in the

00:27:02.600 year 2000

00:27:03.280 when all the

00:27:04.200 starvation was

00:27:04.820 supposed to hit

00:27:05.320 and by and

00:27:06.520 large people

00:27:06.980 are way better

00:27:07.780 off than

00:27:08.440 they've ever

00:27:09.040 been in the

00:27:09.540 history of

00:27:10.060 mankind

00:27:10.540 about 7

00:27:11.600 out of 8

00:27:12.140 billion people

00:27:12.820 now have

00:27:13.940 a reasonable

00:27:15.820 standard of

00:27:16.540 living

00:27:16.820 it's not

00:27:17.360 luxurious

00:27:17.880 say by

00:27:18.500 North American

00:27:19.040 standards

00:27:19.480 but they

00:27:19.860 have enough

00:27:20.200 to eat

00:27:20.620 they have

00:27:21.640 a certain

00:27:22.000 degree of

00:27:22.460 security

00:27:22.880 and their

00:27:23.860 children have

00:27:24.400 a certain

00:27:24.840 amount of

00:27:25.320 opportunity

00:27:25.800 and there's

00:27:26.740 still hundreds

00:27:28.340 of millions

00:27:28.860 of people

00:27:29.340 who have

00:27:29.740 trouble

00:27:30.140 but we're

00:27:31.860 we have

00:27:32.860 especially over

00:27:33.640 the last 20

00:27:34.180 years maybe

00:27:34.700 since the

00:27:35.200 Berlin Wall

00:27:35.700 fell and

00:27:36.240 the communists

00:27:36.980 kept quit

00:27:38.080 wrecking

00:27:38.760 everything they

00:27:39.300 got their

00:27:39.620 hands on

00:27:40.140 we've moved

00:27:41.560 away from

00:27:42.180 absolute poverty

00:27:42.960 at a pretty

00:27:43.360 decent rate

00:27:44.060 so and

00:27:45.560 there's other

00:27:46.100 good news

00:27:47.400 as well

00:27:47.840 we exist in

00:27:49.680 comparative

00:27:50.040 peace

00:27:50.420 violence of

00:27:51.260 every form

00:27:51.900 from murder

00:27:52.940 to insurrection

00:27:53.740 is increasingly

00:27:55.160 rare and

00:27:56.120 universally condemned

00:27:57.180 and fewer

00:27:58.000 people than

00:27:58.500 ever before

00:27:59.100 confront the

00:28:00.120 ravages of

00:28:00.740 war so we

00:28:01.940 become less

00:28:02.420 violent and

00:28:03.040 more peaceful

00:28:04.100 at every level

00:28:05.720 of social

00:28:06.300 organization

00:28:06.920 to note that

00:28:07.880 all this is a

00:28:08.600 miracle is still

00:28:09.520 to understate

00:28:10.340 the enormity of

00:28:11.260 the accomplishment

00:28:11.920 and so you

00:28:12.780 know we can

00:28:13.160 take stock

00:28:13.800 now in

00:28:14.580 2023 and

00:28:15.720 think we've

00:28:16.580 got a fair

00:28:16.940 number of

00:28:17.360 problems and

00:28:18.040 we're certainly

00:28:18.540 not perfect but

00:28:19.480 things are a lot

00:28:21.180 better than they

00:28:21.780 might have been

00:28:22.380 and there's a

00:28:23.740 lot of good

00:28:24.300 news on the

00:28:25.320 local national

00:28:26.880 and international

00:28:27.620 front and so

00:28:29.280 many problems

00:28:31.200 of course remain

00:28:32.300 hundreds of

00:28:32.940 millions still

00:28:33.580 labor under

00:28:34.080 conditions of

00:28:34.700 extreme privation

00:28:35.580 they're absolutely

00:28:36.660 poor we still

00:28:37.980 organize ourselves

00:28:38.940 less effectively

00:28:39.820 than we might

00:28:40.620 if we were

00:28:41.600 truly wise

00:28:42.420 and we are

00:28:43.580 still determining

00:28:44.320 how to

00:28:45.400 maintain our

00:28:46.260 economic security

00:28:47.240 and prosperity

00:28:48.020 in an efficient

00:28:48.860 cost effective

00:28:50.040 and nature

00:28:51.540 conserving

00:28:52.140 manner

00:28:52.600 all right so

00:28:54.740 you don't have

00:28:55.500 to be a

00:28:55.840 Pollyanna to

00:28:57.420 take optimistic

00:28:58.760 stock of the

00:29:00.180 current situation

00:29:00.980 you can note

00:29:01.760 that 95%

00:29:05.040 of the world

00:29:05.620 was living in

00:29:06.400 conditions of

00:29:07.400 absolute privation

00:29:08.360 by the UN

00:29:09.020 definition of

00:29:09.880 poverty

00:29:10.280 in 1860

00:29:11.760 including in

00:29:12.440 the west

00:29:12.860 and most

00:29:13.820 people simply

00:29:14.620 aren't

00:29:15.800 burdened by

00:29:16.680 that kind of

00:29:17.420 inadequate provision

00:29:18.940 in the modern

00:29:19.660 world and so

00:29:20.880 that's a pretty

00:29:21.560 good deal

00:29:22.140 now is it

00:29:23.180 sustainable

00:29:23.760 well

00:29:24.860 that's not a

00:29:28.100 good question

00:29:28.660 the better

00:29:29.800 question is

00:29:30.520 under what

00:29:31.900 conditions is

00:29:32.920 it optimally

00:29:33.680 sustainable or

00:29:34.600 expanding

00:29:35.300 that's a better

00:29:36.220 question

00:29:36.700 questions are

00:29:37.820 important

00:29:38.300 so you can

00:29:40.120 say perhaps

00:29:40.840 you can argue

00:29:41.540 the foundations

00:29:43.960 are secure

00:29:44.600 and good

00:29:45.000 we've learned

00:29:46.420 how to act

00:29:46.980 and to conduct

00:29:47.520 ourselves both

00:29:48.280 individually and

00:29:49.040 socially so

00:29:50.040 that true human

00:29:50.900 flourishing is

00:29:51.820 possible on a

00:29:53.160 scale heretofore

00:29:54.180 undreamed of

00:29:55.080 and practically

00:29:57.080 impossible

00:29:57.720 we put in

00:29:58.800 place systems

00:29:59.960 of governance

00:30:00.540 that are by

00:30:01.880 historical standards

00:30:02.940 quite effective

00:30:03.640 there's been a

00:30:04.860 sequence of

00:30:05.440 absolute

00:30:06.000 technological

00:30:06.640 miracles that

00:30:07.500 have enabled

00:30:07.880 us to feed

00:30:08.400 ourselves

00:30:08.820 we've been

00:30:09.860 able to

00:30:10.180 provide people

00:30:10.820 with access

00:30:11.460 to inexpensive

00:30:12.700 energy and

00:30:13.680 energy is work

00:30:14.560 and work is

00:30:15.460 the amelioration

00:30:16.260 of absolute

00:30:16.780 privation and

00:30:17.660 so that's all

00:30:18.700 pretty damn

00:30:19.260 good

00:30:19.580 so that's the

00:30:22.900 upside the

00:30:24.180 realistic non

00:30:25.140 naive upside

00:30:26.100 the challenge

00:30:28.640 so you might

00:30:29.920 think that's the

00:30:30.660 impending

00:30:31.140 crisis

00:30:31.680 despite all

00:30:32.960 this good

00:30:33.420 news

00:30:33.820 this undeniable

00:30:34.980 progress

00:30:35.580 a shadow

00:30:36.380 has emerged

00:30:37.260 an adversarial

00:30:39.480 challenge

00:30:40.160 to this

00:30:41.600 state and

00:30:42.500 process of

00:30:43.160 expanding

00:30:43.620 abundance

00:30:44.220 an emergent

00:30:45.980 crisis of

00:30:46.680 meaning and

00:30:47.240 purpose

00:30:47.660 God is dead

00:30:49.700 or so the

00:30:51.100 story goes

00:30:51.720 and the future

00:30:52.520 is uncertain

00:30:53.540 five centuries

00:30:55.360 of ascendant

00:30:56.860 reductionist

00:30:57.980 enlightenment

00:30:58.540 rationality

00:30:59.440 have revealed

00:31:00.680 that this

00:31:02.540 starkly

00:31:03.000 objective

00:31:03.460 world lacks

00:31:04.300 all intrinsic

00:31:05.160 meaning

00:31:05.600 a century

00:31:06.860 and a half

00:31:07.480 or more

00:31:08.240 of corrosive

00:31:09.000 cultural

00:31:09.440 criticism

00:31:10.000 has undermined

00:31:11.260 our understanding

00:31:12.320 of and faith

00:31:13.540 in the

00:31:13.880 traditions

00:31:14.320 necessary

00:31:15.320 to unite

00:31:16.680 and guide

00:31:17.240 us

00:31:17.560 well

00:31:18.840 we underwent

00:31:20.180 the scientific

00:31:20.720 revolution

00:31:21.360 started 500

00:31:22.900 years ago

00:31:23.520 say and

00:31:24.080 it concentrated

00:31:25.560 on delineation

00:31:26.500 of the nature

00:31:27.080 of the objective

00:31:27.780 world

00:31:28.260 we found

00:31:29.280 out that

00:31:29.840 the heavens

00:31:31.560 were other

00:31:32.320 than what

00:31:33.060 we had

00:31:33.460 presupposed

00:31:34.380 and that

00:31:34.800 the God

00:31:35.500 we had

00:31:35.920 imagined

00:31:36.420 inhabiting

00:31:37.080 those heavens

00:31:37.780 did not

00:31:38.560 appear in

00:31:39.280 the starkly

00:31:41.200 empty

00:31:41.760 and barren

00:31:42.520 immense

00:31:43.140 vast

00:31:43.780 landscape

00:31:44.380 of the

00:31:44.900 cosmos

00:31:45.280 and

00:31:46.300 we believe

00:31:47.700 that

00:31:48.100 if you

00:31:49.300 were sensible

00:31:50.360 and abandoned

00:31:51.260 your superstitions

00:31:52.320 that you'd

00:31:52.900 see the world

00:31:53.620 as the cold

00:31:54.600 dead

00:31:55.080 mechanistic

00:31:55.980 inert

00:31:56.580 object

00:31:57.860 of process

00:31:58.840 that it

00:31:59.240 most truly

00:31:59.860 is

00:32:00.320 well

00:32:01.620 we've got

00:32:04.000 a long way

00:32:04.360 with that

00:32:04.660 viewpoint

00:32:05.060 you know

00:32:05.420 that

00:32:05.680 reductionist

00:32:06.600 materialism

00:32:07.300 has made

00:32:07.680 us

00:32:07.860 unbelievably

00:32:08.420 powerful

00:32:08.900 technologically

00:32:09.600 but

00:32:09.960 the downside

00:32:10.880 of that

00:32:11.280 is that

00:32:11.660 it's

00:32:11.940 stripped

00:32:12.180 the world

00:32:12.580 of meaning

00:32:13.000 and that's

00:32:13.500 produced

00:32:13.780 a crisis

00:32:14.220 of faith

00:32:14.800 and

00:32:15.040 you might

00:32:15.900 object

00:32:16.300 well the

00:32:16.660 world's

00:32:16.940 necessarily

00:32:17.480 been stripped

00:32:18.020 of meaning

00:32:18.440 but

00:32:18.680 it's not

00:32:20.320 always that

00:32:20.800 obvious

00:32:21.200 just exactly

00:32:22.040 what constitutes

00:32:22.920 what's

00:32:23.680 necessary

00:32:24.220 so

00:32:25.020 in the

00:32:26.740 middle

00:32:26.920 of this

00:32:27.280 existential

00:32:27.840 chaos

00:32:28.420 the false

00:32:29.500 idol

00:32:29.880 of

00:32:30.140 apocalyptic

00:32:30.760 ideology

00:32:31.540 inevitably

00:32:32.380 beckons

00:32:32.960 so what's

00:32:34.320 that proposition

00:32:35.120 well you lose

00:32:36.600 your traditional

00:32:37.240 faith

00:32:37.660 your traditional

00:32:38.320 religious faith

00:32:39.120 you still need

00:32:40.200 an interpretive

00:32:40.860 structure to

00:32:41.420 guide you

00:32:41.960 and so

00:32:43.060 what you might

00:32:43.980 say is that

00:32:44.800 well as

00:32:46.080 the classic

00:32:47.100 god of

00:32:47.880 the monotheistic

00:32:48.880 western

00:32:49.720 tradition

00:32:50.200 collapses

00:32:50.720 then his

00:32:51.860 polytheistic

00:32:52.800 adversaries

00:32:53.560 rise up

00:32:54.320 to

00:32:54.640 replace

00:32:55.320 him

00:32:55.580 you are

00:32:56.700 bound

00:32:57.220 to

00:32:57.680 act out

00:32:58.980 your belief

00:32:59.640 in something

00:33:00.560 and maybe

00:33:01.360 it's your

00:33:01.700 own

00:33:02.000 hedonistic

00:33:02.980 will

00:33:03.380 fragmented

00:33:04.820 impulsive

00:33:05.440 hedonistic

00:33:06.060 will

00:33:06.440 and you

00:33:07.040 might think

00:33:07.460 that's you

00:33:08.060 but that's

00:33:08.580 just a

00:33:08.980 lower

00:33:09.220 that's just

00:33:09.860 a sequence

00:33:10.360 of lower

00:33:10.780 gods

00:33:11.160 that are

00:33:11.480 possessing

00:33:12.000 you

00:33:12.180 so

00:33:13.080 we find

00:33:16.340 ourselves

00:33:16.740 in consequence

00:33:17.680 inundated

00:33:18.720 by a

00:33:19.700 continual

00:33:20.220 onslaught

00:33:20.900 of ominous

00:33:21.720 demoralizing

00:33:22.740 messages

00:33:23.340 most

00:33:24.460 particularly

00:33:24.980 in the

00:33:25.440 form of

00:33:25.840 environmental

00:33:26.360 catastrophism

00:33:27.280 the

00:33:28.380 insistence

00:33:29.300 that we

00:33:30.080 all confront

00:33:30.960 a severe

00:33:31.660 and immediately

00:33:32.400 pending

00:33:33.020 emergency

00:33:33.960 of biological

00:33:35.640 destruction

00:33:36.420 causally

00:33:38.540 associated

00:33:39.140 with our

00:33:39.640 degenerate

00:33:40.560 social

00:33:40.940 structures

00:33:41.540 the

00:33:42.360 patriarchy

00:33:43.040 the

00:33:44.200 oppressive

00:33:44.760 patriarchy

00:33:45.460 and their

00:33:46.020 excess

00:33:46.460 and destructive

00:33:47.360 industrial

00:33:47.960 production

00:33:48.540 from my

00:33:51.620 perspective

00:33:52.200 and I've

00:33:52.940 thought about

00:33:53.340 this deeply

00:33:53.940 and talked

00:33:54.660 about it

00:33:54.980 with many

00:33:55.420 wise people

00:33:56.180 this is a

00:33:57.520 quasi-religious

00:33:58.800 worldview

00:34:00.200 replacement

00:34:01.260 for our

00:34:02.740 original

00:34:03.240 traditional

00:34:03.880 religious

00:34:04.760 viewpoint

00:34:05.260 and

00:34:06.060 it's

00:34:07.740 predicated

00:34:08.360 on a

00:34:09.180 narrative

00:34:11.100 a story

00:34:12.280 we see

00:34:14.060 the world

00:34:14.400 through a

00:34:14.760 story

00:34:15.060 inevitably

00:34:15.660 a description

00:34:17.000 of the

00:34:17.480 structures

00:34:17.900 through which

00:34:18.440 we see

00:34:18.800 the world

00:34:19.180 is a

00:34:19.840 story

00:34:20.140 the

00:34:21.340 apocalyptic

00:34:22.180 environmentalist

00:34:23.380 ethos

00:34:25.880 is a

00:34:26.300 story

00:34:26.620 and it

00:34:27.080 has

00:34:27.280 characters

00:34:27.800 and

00:34:28.060 here's

00:34:29.480 the

00:34:29.660 story

00:34:30.040 the

00:34:31.180 narrative

00:34:31.500 generating

00:34:32.100 these

00:34:32.380 messages

00:34:32.900 quasi-religious

00:34:34.220 in its

00:34:34.620 structure

00:34:34.980 and intensity

00:34:35.680 paints

00:34:36.380 a dismal

00:34:37.520 existential

00:34:38.160 picture

00:34:38.680 the

00:34:39.540 individual

00:34:40.020 is a

00:34:41.940 rapacious

00:34:42.480 predatory

00:34:43.440 parasitical

00:34:44.800 consumer

00:34:45.920 too many

00:34:47.680 mouths to

00:34:48.280 feed

00:34:48.620 society

00:34:50.020 even the

00:34:50.960 little society

00:34:51.620 of the

00:34:51.920 family

00:34:52.240 is an

00:34:53.000 oppressive

00:34:53.600 tyrannical

00:34:54.920 despoiler

00:34:55.800 marriage

00:34:58.000 is a

00:34:58.500 patriarchal

00:34:59.000 institution

00:34:59.560 an exploitative

00:35:00.720 patriarchal

00:35:01.460 institution

00:35:01.880 all our

00:35:02.600 economic

00:35:03.320 interactions

00:35:04.240 are nothing

00:35:05.200 but the

00:35:05.560 manifestation

00:35:06.120 of a

00:35:06.660 corrupt

00:35:06.920 will to

00:35:07.380 power

00:35:07.700 and that's

00:35:09.420 the proper

00:35:10.080 reading of

00:35:10.520 history

00:35:10.860 and the

00:35:11.260 current

00:35:11.500 moment

00:35:11.900 and nature

00:35:13.760 herself

00:35:14.360 is a

00:35:14.940 hapless

00:35:15.380 fragile

00:35:16.320 virginal

00:35:17.400 victim

00:35:17.900 in need

00:35:19.040 of continual

00:35:19.920 sympathy

00:35:21.560 and

00:35:22.020 protection

00:35:22.720 for our

00:35:24.460 sins

00:35:25.020 so the

00:35:26.400 story goes

00:35:27.100 the

00:35:27.620 horsemen

00:35:28.040 of the

00:35:28.360 apocalypse

00:35:28.800 are to

00:35:29.220 be loosed

00:35:29.620 upon us

00:35:30.260 and

00:35:30.860 justly

00:35:31.640 so

00:35:32.000 the

00:35:33.320 ultimate

00:35:33.900 Malthusian

00:35:34.840 nightmare

00:35:35.300 is about

00:35:35.920 to be

00:35:36.260 realized

00:35:36.760 the planet

00:35:39.380 is unsustainably

00:35:40.360 and unforgivably

00:35:41.540 overpopulated

00:35:42.340 there is

00:35:43.220 simply

00:35:43.720 too much

00:35:45.120 fundamentally

00:35:45.960 pathological

00:35:46.740 human

00:35:47.180 activity

00:35:48.000 plague

00:35:49.420 political

00:35:50.340 anarchy

00:35:50.880 and starvation

00:35:52.180 await us

00:35:54.020 all

00:35:54.460 Malthus

00:35:56.600 Malthus

00:35:57.660 was a

00:35:57.940 biologist

00:35:58.400 who

00:35:58.720 made the

00:35:59.860 observation

00:36:00.380 that under

00:36:01.040 natural

00:36:01.780 circumstances

00:36:02.560 populations

00:36:04.920 of living

00:36:05.380 organisms

00:36:05.880 tended to

00:36:06.460 expand

00:36:07.080 through

00:36:08.380 reproduction

00:36:08.880 to the

00:36:09.220 point

00:36:09.360 where they

00:36:09.640 consumed

00:36:10.200 all

00:36:10.960 available

00:36:11.400 resources

00:36:12.040 and then

00:36:13.100 precipitously

00:36:13.780 collapsed

00:36:14.340 now in

00:36:15.600 a dynamic

00:36:16.860 natural

00:36:17.700 environment

00:36:18.200 the deer

00:36:19.460 don't multiply

00:36:20.220 to the

00:36:20.540 point

00:36:20.740 where they

00:36:21.120 eat

00:36:21.340 all the

00:36:21.880 everything

00:36:24.420 that they

00:36:24.820 could forage

00:36:25.360 for

00:36:25.660 because

00:36:26.400 they're

00:36:26.660 held in

00:36:27.040 check

00:36:27.280 by

00:36:27.680 predators

00:36:29.080 so you

00:36:30.300 see

00:36:30.560 in principle

00:36:31.640 a balancing

00:36:32.260 of some

00:36:32.760 sort

00:36:33.060 emerge

00:36:33.540 in complex

00:36:34.520 dynamic

00:36:35.000 natural

00:36:35.400 environments

00:36:35.920 but left

00:36:36.620 to their

00:36:36.880 own

00:36:37.040 devices

00:36:37.540 unchecked

00:36:38.640 the

00:36:39.020 Malthusian

00:36:39.640 nightmare

00:36:40.160 emerges

00:36:41.780 the yeast

00:36:42.920 will

00:36:43.260 in the

00:36:43.840 petri dish

00:36:44.380 will consume

00:36:45.020 all the

00:36:45.520 agar

00:36:45.980 and then

00:36:47.300 all of it

00:36:48.580 will die

00:36:49.180 and

00:36:49.920 that's a

00:36:51.480 biological

00:36:51.840 model

00:36:52.300 and it's

00:36:53.520 a model

00:36:53.960 that's valid

00:36:54.600 under some

00:36:55.140 conditions

00:36:55.600 but we're

00:36:56.480 not yeast

00:36:57.220 human beings

00:36:57.960 and we're

00:36:58.940 not yeast

00:36:59.500 because we

00:37:00.060 can let our

00:37:00.580 ideas die

00:37:01.380 instead of

00:37:01.920 us

00:37:02.200 and what

00:37:03.000 that means

00:37:03.480 is that if

00:37:03.940 we do

00:37:04.260 stupid

00:37:04.660 destructive

00:37:05.140 things

00:37:05.520 we can

00:37:05.840 learn to

00:37:06.180 stop doing

00:37:06.720 them

00:37:06.940 and we can

00:37:07.780 get more

00:37:08.200 efficient

00:37:08.580 and we can

00:37:09.320 get wiser

00:37:09.920 and we can

00:37:10.720 make more

00:37:11.200 with less

00:37:11.800 and we've

00:37:12.420 done that

00:37:12.800 consistently

00:37:13.500 throughout our

00:37:14.180 entire

00:37:14.600 biological

00:37:16.020 throughout the

00:37:17.800 entire duration

00:37:18.900 of our

00:37:19.240 existence as a

00:37:20.080 species

00:37:20.400 and there's no

00:37:21.200 evidence

00:37:21.580 whatsoever

00:37:22.300 that we have

00:37:23.260 got less

00:37:23.800 good at that

00:37:24.360 in fact

00:37:25.040 quite the

00:37:25.440 contrary

00:37:25.820 and so

00:37:26.140 the economists

00:37:26.920 rejoinder to

00:37:28.480 the Malthusian

00:37:29.320 biologists

00:37:29.900 is

00:37:30.400 resources

00:37:33.900 are not

00:37:35.160 defined

00:37:36.340 by their

00:37:36.920 finitude

00:37:37.420 in the

00:37:37.940 manner

00:37:38.160 you

00:37:38.400 presume

00:37:38.860 because

00:37:39.680 there is

00:37:40.180 no

00:37:40.620 upper

00:37:41.500 limit

00:37:41.800 to the

00:37:42.200 scope

00:37:42.460 of

00:37:42.660 human

00:37:43.220 ingenuity

00:37:43.880 especially

00:37:44.580 if it's

00:37:45.060 conjoined

00:37:45.600 with the

00:37:46.880 appropriate

00:37:47.460 governance

00:37:47.980 that makes

00:37:48.780 cooperative

00:37:49.860 ingenuity

00:37:51.300 both possible

00:37:52.880 and more

00:37:53.260 likely

00:37:53.620 so

00:37:54.660 for those

00:37:56.420 of you

00:37:56.680 who are

00:37:56.920 thinking

00:37:57.200 that we

00:37:57.900 should be

00:37:58.280 following

00:37:58.580 the science

00:37:59.200 and that

00:37:59.580 the science

00:38:00.060 is necessarily

00:38:00.840 Malthusian

00:38:01.620 then I would

00:38:02.520 say

00:38:02.840 you don't

00:38:04.160 know as

00:38:04.620 much about

00:38:05.060 science as

00:38:05.700 you might

00:38:06.120 need to

00:38:06.540 know to

00:38:06.920 make such

00:38:07.420 a claim

00:38:07.820 in any

00:38:09.560 case

00:38:09.940 from this

00:38:11.000 Malthusian

00:38:11.600 perspective

00:38:12.200 the

00:38:14.760 ultimate

00:38:16.000 nightmare is

00:38:16.760 about to be

00:38:17.240 realized

00:38:17.640 the planet

00:38:18.140 is unsustainably

00:38:19.340 and unforgivably

00:38:20.200 overpopulated

00:38:21.060 there is too

00:38:21.860 much pathological

00:38:22.820 human activity

00:38:23.720 plague

00:38:24.540 political

00:38:25.080 anarchy

00:38:25.540 and starvation

00:38:26.360 await us

00:38:27.140 all

00:38:27.380 it is in

00:38:28.100 consequence

00:38:28.740 high time

00:38:30.340 to repent

00:38:32.380 and change

00:38:33.040 our errant

00:38:33.580 ways

00:38:34.040 to admit

00:38:34.920 in defeated

00:38:35.540 shame

00:38:36.040 that our

00:38:36.960 current

00:38:37.260 social and

00:38:37.900 industrial

00:38:38.380 enterprises

00:38:39.000 are corrupt

00:38:39.720 and unsustainable

00:38:40.860 to radically

00:38:42.760 revolutionize

00:38:43.640 all traditional

00:38:44.380 forms of

00:38:44.980 conduct

00:38:45.320 and governance

00:38:46.000 to question

00:38:47.480 even the

00:38:48.400 propriety of

00:38:49.120 bringing new

00:38:49.800 devouring

00:38:50.360 mouse into

00:38:50.920 this world

00:38:51.540 and to

00:38:53.700 accept

00:38:54.160 without

00:38:54.680 resistance

00:38:55.340 the limits

00:38:55.860 to growth

00:38:56.320 and opportunity

00:38:56.940 made increasingly

00:38:57.980 mandatory

00:38:58.580 by a

00:38:59.480 coterie

00:38:59.880 of

00:39:00.580 concerned

00:39:01.100 and

00:39:01.420 hypothetically

00:39:02.080 expert

00:39:02.820 elites

00:39:03.500 well

00:39:06.940 what's

00:39:07.320 the problem

00:39:07.860 well part

00:39:08.620 of the

00:39:08.800 problem

00:39:09.060 is

00:39:09.340 a

00:39:10.520 panicked

00:39:10.880 response

00:39:11.380 to a

00:39:11.700 hypothetical

00:39:12.080 emergency

00:39:12.560 can be

00:39:13.220 far worse

00:39:13.740 than the

00:39:14.200 hypothetical

00:39:14.740 emergency

00:39:15.320 itself

00:39:15.860 and

00:39:16.120 given

00:39:17.020 what we

00:39:17.520 all just

00:39:18.320 did

00:39:18.780 when

00:39:19.260 the

00:39:20.200 COVID

00:39:20.720 when the

00:39:22.300 hypothetical

00:39:22.800 COVID

00:39:23.300 pandemic

00:39:23.960 hypothetically

00:39:24.680 emerged

00:39:25.180 we should

00:39:25.640 give a

00:39:26.160 real serious

00:39:27.220 second thought

00:39:28.380 to

00:39:28.700 panicking

00:39:29.580 and running

00:39:30.040 off a

00:39:30.400 cliff

00:39:30.620 in the

00:39:30.940 same

00:39:31.140 manner

00:39:31.520 as a

00:39:32.120 consequence

00:39:32.500 of the

00:39:33.180 chicken

00:39:34.360 little

00:39:34.720 sky

00:39:35.300 is

00:39:35.580 falling

00:39:35.960 doomsayers

00:39:36.800 who are

00:39:37.280 proclaiming

00:39:38.300 that the

00:39:38.680 emergency

00:39:39.140 justifies

00:39:39.960 their acquisition

00:39:40.780 of all the

00:39:41.380 power

00:39:41.760 from the

00:39:44.200 Malthusian

00:39:44.800 perspective

00:39:45.400 a deep

00:39:46.140 worldwide

00:39:46.760 social economic

00:39:47.820 and revolution

00:39:48.560 is therefore

00:39:49.720 allegedly at

00:39:50.700 hand

00:39:51.100 and necessarily

00:39:52.640 so

00:39:53.020 those who

00:39:53.740 dare suggest

00:39:54.560 otherwise

00:39:55.080 are blind

00:39:56.340 if not

00:39:57.180 malevolent

00:39:57.900 and must

00:39:58.600 be silenced

00:39:59.520 what are the

00:40:02.600 results of

00:40:03.120 such theories

00:40:03.740 or the

00:40:04.580 consequences

00:40:05.160 of such

00:40:05.700 proclamations

00:40:06.540 well we can

00:40:07.860 see it

00:40:08.180 unfolding

00:40:08.660 the

00:40:09.260 increasingly

00:40:10.040 and increasingly

00:40:11.840 the increasing

00:40:12.680 and increasingly

00:40:13.380 compelled

00:40:13.880 imposition

00:40:14.460 of severe

00:40:15.200 involuntary

00:40:16.580 limits

00:40:17.040 to material

00:40:18.240 abundance

00:40:18.900 and growth

00:40:19.660 more expensive

00:40:21.220 energy for

00:40:21.820 example

00:40:22.240 the resultant

00:40:23.340 artificially

00:40:24.200 inflated

00:40:24.720 prices

00:40:25.260 particularly

00:40:26.120 for the

00:40:27.140 aforementioned

00:40:27.800 energy

00:40:28.300 that most

00:40:29.220 truly

00:40:29.580 punish

00:40:30.240 the poor

00:40:32.260 the fraying

00:40:34.020 of our

00:40:34.340 social fabric

00:40:35.060 into a

00:40:35.580 chaos of

00:40:36.180 alienated

00:40:36.840 polarization

00:40:37.440 simultaneously

00:40:39.160 and in

00:40:40.120 predictable

00:40:40.560 lockstep

00:40:41.220 the extension

00:40:42.240 of reach

00:40:42.760 and control

00:40:43.400 over even

00:40:44.520 the most

00:40:44.920 private

00:40:45.380 details of

00:40:46.160 our lives

00:40:46.820 by increasingly

00:40:48.680 gigantic

00:40:49.400 and centralized

00:40:50.120 organizations

00:40:51.080 governmental

00:40:52.220 and corporate

00:40:53.300 alike

00:40:54.100 and the

00:40:56.100 spread

00:40:56.460 particularly

00:40:57.000 among the

00:40:57.620 young

00:40:57.900 of a

00:40:58.620 demoralizing

00:40:59.400 and socially

00:41:00.080 divisive

00:41:00.820 doubt

00:41:01.680 and hopelessness

00:41:03.220 well why

00:41:03.940 does doubt

00:41:04.680 and hopelessness

00:41:05.640 well

00:41:06.260 look

00:41:07.600 if you're

00:41:08.720 a young

00:41:09.020 person

00:41:09.440 in the

00:41:09.960 world

00:41:10.180 today

00:41:10.620 well if

00:41:11.520 you're

00:41:11.640 female

00:41:12.120 the first

00:41:14.420 question

00:41:14.840 that confronts

00:41:15.520 you giving

00:41:15.920 the looming

00:41:16.700 environmental

00:41:17.480 apocalypse

00:41:17.980 is

00:41:18.440 well who

00:41:20.300 are you

00:41:20.560 to bring

00:41:20.880 a child

00:41:21.280 into this

00:41:21.740 world

00:41:22.060 and so

00:41:22.460 that pretty

00:41:23.000 makes

00:41:23.280 pretty much

00:41:23.860 makes the

00:41:24.300 whole enterprise

00:41:24.940 of motherhood

00:41:25.540 which is

00:41:26.020 a fundamental

00:41:26.860 part of

00:41:27.420 life

00:41:27.780 as you may

00:41:29.080 have noticed

00:41:29.580 all of you

00:41:30.480 who have

00:41:30.840 mothers

00:41:31.220 that makes

00:41:32.580 that what

00:41:33.180 morally

00:41:33.540 untenable

00:41:34.160 and then

00:41:36.120 of course

00:41:36.780 if motherhood

00:41:37.340 itself is morally

00:41:38.120 untenable

00:41:38.620 with the whole

00:41:39.080 utility of having

00:41:39.980 a relationship

00:41:40.520 let's say

00:41:41.160 with a man

00:41:41.680 that becomes

00:41:42.300 entirely

00:41:42.880 questionable

00:41:43.400 I mean then

00:41:44.640 it's what

00:41:45.200 sex and

00:41:45.720 companionship

00:41:46.420 and that's

00:41:46.780 not nothing

00:41:47.340 but that

00:41:48.700 might not

00:41:49.100 be enough

00:41:49.520 to unite

00:41:49.980 people

00:41:50.440 in a manner

00:41:51.900 that allows

00:41:52.580 them to

00:41:53.160 maintain

00:41:53.960 the intense

00:41:55.000 social bonds

00:41:55.820 that are

00:41:56.160 necessary

00:41:56.760 to keep

00:41:57.600 us

00:41:57.940 free of

00:41:59.640 terror

00:42:00.240 and anxiety

00:42:01.260 and hopeful

00:42:01.800 into the

00:42:02.320 future

00:42:02.700 and then

00:42:03.600 for men

00:42:04.500 for young

00:42:05.060 men in

00:42:05.460 particular

00:42:05.840 it's like

00:42:06.340 well

00:42:06.660 all their

00:42:09.700 ambition

00:42:10.140 is nothing

00:42:10.700 but a

00:42:11.040 manifestation

00:42:11.540 of patriarchal

00:42:12.520 oppression

00:42:12.920 and the

00:42:13.600 very oppression

00:42:14.260 that's

00:42:14.580 destroying

00:42:14.940 the planet

00:42:15.540 and so

00:42:16.380 if they

00:42:16.680 get up

00:42:17.100 and attempt

00:42:17.860 to move

00:42:18.260 forward

00:42:18.720 all they're

00:42:19.860 doing is

00:42:20.400 contributing

00:42:20.880 to the

00:42:21.400 catastrophic

00:42:22.000 mess

00:42:22.400 that human

00:42:23.600 beings

00:42:24.040 that cancer

00:42:24.820 on the

00:42:25.120 planet

00:42:25.420 have already

00:42:25.940 and always

00:42:27.020 made of

00:42:27.840 the planet

00:42:28.320 and so

00:42:29.260 what do you

00:42:29.920 expect

00:42:30.300 on the behalf

00:42:31.980 of young

00:42:32.320 people

00:42:32.620 and you

00:42:33.120 should expect

00:42:33.580 exactly

00:42:33.980 what you

00:42:34.320 get

00:42:34.540 which is

00:42:34.880 a radical

00:42:35.780 increase

00:42:36.300 in depression

00:42:36.840 and anxiety

00:42:37.560 a radical

00:42:38.580 elimination

00:42:39.200 of their

00:42:39.940 sense of

00:42:40.780 agency

00:42:41.300 growing

00:42:43.480 sense of

00:42:44.080 hopelessness

00:42:44.720 and despair

00:42:45.320 all of which

00:42:46.220 is being

00:42:46.880 forced upon

00:42:47.780 them

00:42:48.040 and even

00:42:49.280 the abandonment

00:42:50.240 of the

00:42:50.560 entire

00:42:50.900 sexual

00:42:51.380 enterprise

00:42:52.040 30%

00:42:53.600 of people

00:42:54.560 in Japan

00:42:55.480 it's the

00:42:56.600 same in

00:42:56.980 South Korea

00:42:57.680 and we're

00:42:58.060 moving in

00:42:58.480 that direction

00:42:59.000 pretty damn

00:42:59.500 fast

00:42:59.900 in the rest

00:43:00.800 of the

00:43:01.020 West

00:43:01.320 30%

00:43:02.600 of people

00:43:03.360 under 30

00:43:03.820 in Japan

00:43:04.260 are virgins

00:43:05.060 we've

00:43:06.640 demoralized

00:43:07.220 young people

00:43:07.740 so badly

00:43:08.300 that they're

00:43:09.480 not even

00:43:09.880 having sex

00:43:10.680 even with

00:43:11.780 themselves

00:43:12.360 and so

00:43:13.400 I don't know

00:43:14.200 man if your

00:43:14.940 solution to

00:43:16.040 if your

00:43:17.860 solution to

00:43:18.820 saving the

00:43:19.320 planet is to

00:43:20.100 demoralize

00:43:20.740 young people

00:43:21.340 your vision

00:43:22.760 of the

00:43:23.460 acceptable

00:43:23.900 future is

00:43:24.900 diametrically

00:43:25.820 opposed to

00:43:26.620 let's say

00:43:27.820 my vision

00:43:28.420 of the

00:43:28.980 desirable

00:43:30.200 future

00:43:30.680 so

00:43:31.520 all right

00:43:32.840 we've

00:43:34.500 talked about

00:43:35.020 the current

00:43:35.440 situation

00:43:36.020 optimistically

00:43:36.700 we talked a

00:43:37.300 little bit

00:43:37.540 about the

00:43:37.940 crisis that

00:43:38.680 we're facing

00:43:39.700 existentially

00:43:40.500 and practically

00:43:41.180 and the

00:43:41.580 dangers that

00:43:42.140 might emerge

00:43:42.780 because of

00:43:44.340 overreaction to

00:43:45.280 that hypothetical

00:43:46.080 crisis

00:43:46.620 we'll talk about

00:43:48.040 the alliance

00:43:48.480 for responsible

00:43:49.220 citizenship a

00:43:50.080 bit and

00:43:50.820 what we're

00:43:52.400 tentatively

00:43:54.420 offering and

00:43:55.580 what we have

00:43:56.260 as an

00:43:57.340 invitation to

00:43:58.080 the table

00:43:58.540 the

00:44:00.860 catastrophizing

00:44:01.940 must stop

00:44:02.740 it is

00:44:04.960 existentially

00:44:05.700 perilous

00:44:06.400 to insist

00:44:08.180 upon the

00:44:08.780 impending end

00:44:09.580 of the world

00:44:10.200 in this

00:44:10.720 doomsaying

00:44:11.520 manner

00:44:11.980 lest the

00:44:14.260 ensuing

00:44:14.900 panicked

00:44:15.600 tyranny

00:44:16.320 produce exactly

00:44:18.040 the result

00:44:18.680 that is in

00:44:19.320 principle

00:44:20.160 most feared

00:44:21.300 the use of

00:44:22.520 increasingly

00:44:23.060 powerful and

00:44:23.800 invasive technology

00:44:24.920 to monitor

00:44:25.820 and control

00:44:26.440 everything

00:44:27.040 in combination

00:44:28.740 with the

00:44:29.360 willingness and

00:44:29.900 ability to

00:44:30.460 use compulsion

00:44:31.300 and force

00:44:32.080 and that

00:44:33.220 can be

00:44:33.480 taxation and

00:44:34.240 increased

00:44:34.600 energy prices

00:44:35.320 because that's

00:44:35.980 compulsion and

00:44:36.600 force too

00:44:37.120 can lead only

00:44:38.300 to tyranny

00:44:38.940 and despair

00:44:39.660 regardless of

00:44:41.280 the hypothetical

00:44:42.000 nobility of

00:44:42.940 the end goal

00:44:43.740 we have

00:44:45.580 improved almost

00:44:46.520 everything

00:44:47.020 and we appear

00:44:48.180 to be rapidly

00:44:49.360 getting better

00:44:50.060 at doing

00:44:50.520 precisely that

00:44:51.520 as the great

00:44:52.520 British historian

00:44:54.080 Macaulay

00:44:54.920 long ago

00:44:55.780 inquired

00:44:56.820 on what

00:44:58.780 principle

00:44:59.260 is it

00:45:00.200 that

00:45:00.700 when we

00:45:01.580 see nothing

00:45:02.220 but improvement

00:45:03.000 behind us

00:45:04.300 we are to

00:45:05.840 expect nothing

00:45:06.580 but deterioration

00:45:07.820 in front of us

00:45:09.020 we have

00:45:11.860 therefore

00:45:12.340 initiated the

00:45:13.240 alliance for

00:45:13.920 responsible

00:45:14.580 citizenship

00:45:15.320 the arc

00:45:16.840 a new movement

00:45:18.720 of hopeful

00:45:19.200 vision

00:45:19.660 local

00:45:20.540 national

00:45:21.900 and international

00:45:23.120 in its aim

00:45:24.080 in scope

00:45:24.700 aimed at the

00:45:25.660 collective

00:45:26.060 voluntary

00:45:27.240 establishment

00:45:28.140 of a maximally

00:45:29.080 attractive

00:45:29.620 route forward

00:45:30.740 well why

00:45:31.740 local

00:45:32.200 national

00:45:32.720 and international

00:45:33.400 well there's

00:45:34.320 a historically

00:45:36.180 there's a

00:45:37.600 there's historical

00:45:38.540 precedent for the

00:45:39.620 conception of

00:45:40.420 the good governance

00:45:41.880 that's neither

00:45:42.540 tyranny nor

00:45:43.320 degeneration

00:45:44.020 into chaos

00:45:44.660 and that's

00:45:45.420 something like

00:45:45.940 distributed

00:45:46.440 responsibility

00:45:47.340 so imagine

00:45:48.320 that a well

00:45:49.440 governed state

00:45:50.760 doesn't have

00:45:51.900 good leaders

00:45:53.020 from the top

00:45:54.440 shepherding

00:45:55.900 the chaotic

00:45:57.480 and ignorant

00:45:58.120 masses

00:45:58.660 what it has

00:45:59.580 instead is

00:46:00.340 responsibility

00:46:01.560 distributed across

00:46:02.880 the social

00:46:03.840 hierarchy of

00:46:04.540 citizenship

00:46:05.140 so you want

00:46:06.400 individuals who

00:46:07.240 are taking

00:46:07.680 responsibility

00:46:08.600 for their own

00:46:09.360 lives

00:46:09.760 who are educated

00:46:10.780 and attentive

00:46:11.420 and productive

00:46:12.800 and generous

00:46:13.480 enough to take

00:46:14.500 care of

00:46:14.860 themselves

00:46:15.300 and then you

00:46:16.100 hope that

00:46:16.920 if they get

00:46:18.720 good enough

00:46:19.180 at that

00:46:19.540 they can

00:46:20.000 extend their

00:46:21.380 hand and start

00:46:22.000 taking care of

00:46:22.600 someone else

00:46:23.060 so maybe you

00:46:23.580 get married

00:46:23.980 and you take

00:46:24.580 care of your

00:46:24.960 wife and she

00:46:25.520 takes care of

00:46:26.120 you and that's

00:46:27.100 a pretty good

00:46:27.480 deal for both

00:46:28.120 of you

00:46:28.400 and then the

00:46:30.280 two of you are

00:46:30.880 productive and

00:46:31.520 generous enough

00:46:32.220 with each other

00:46:32.860 so that you can

00:46:34.200 now take care of

00:46:34.900 some kids and

00:46:35.620 then you put your

00:46:36.180 family together

00:46:36.920 and so your

00:46:38.600 family's solid

00:46:39.460 and well

00:46:40.200 constituted and

00:46:41.080 you have a little

00:46:41.600 bit of leftover

00:46:42.260 resource so that

00:46:44.340 you could be of

00:46:44.980 aid to your

00:46:45.500 local community

00:46:46.420 and so the

00:46:47.380 local community

00:46:48.120 thrives with its

00:46:49.500 level of

00:46:49.960 responsibility and

00:46:50.960 then well the

00:46:52.080 town made of

00:46:53.440 communities thrives

00:46:54.580 and the province

00:46:55.680 made of cities

00:46:57.060 thrives and then

00:46:58.300 the nation made of

00:46:59.320 provinces thrive and

00:47:00.680 then what's ever

00:47:02.240 left at the

00:47:03.240 international level

00:47:04.140 can make itself

00:47:05.020 minimally manifest

00:47:06.280 and that's a

00:47:07.900 vision of

00:47:08.360 distributed

00:47:08.840 responsibility and

00:47:10.300 it's a vision

00:47:11.320 that allows

00:47:11.920 everyone to

00:47:14.020 have their

00:47:14.540 proper place and

00:47:15.400 encourages them

00:47:16.220 precisely to take

00:47:17.120 that predicated

00:47:18.260 as it is on

00:47:19.400 the idea that

00:47:20.260 just because

00:47:22.340 you're in the

00:47:23.340 uppermost echelons

00:47:24.400 of an abstracted

00:47:25.280 organization does

00:47:26.240 not mean that

00:47:27.080 what you're doing

00:47:27.780 is more important

00:47:28.680 and vital than

00:47:29.940 the people who

00:47:30.540 occupy something

00:47:31.760 at a lower

00:47:32.280 level a more

00:47:33.380 local level

00:47:34.080 so that means

00:47:35.560 the housewife's

00:47:36.400 job is as

00:47:37.640 important all

00:47:38.640 things considered

00:47:39.400 and as valuable

00:47:40.160 as the

00:47:41.220 prime minister's

00:47:42.920 job and you

00:47:44.240 might think well

00:47:45.100 that's preposterous

00:47:46.120 and then I

00:47:46.560 would say well

00:47:47.400 then you're not

00:47:47.940 taking the job

00:47:49.560 of housewife

00:47:50.140 seriously enough

00:47:51.000 it's like not

00:47:52.300 that easy to

00:47:52.900 make a home

00:47:53.360 and it's not

00:47:53.860 that easy to

00:47:54.580 make a home

00:47:55.080 where things

00:47:57.500 are set up to

00:47:58.160 maximize the

00:47:58.940 possibilities of

00:47:59.700 your children

00:48:00.180 and God only

00:48:01.180 knows how you

00:48:01.800 can bring

00:48:03.280 goodness into

00:48:03.960 the world by

00:48:04.780 optimizing your

00:48:06.360 relationship with

00:48:07.140 your children

00:48:07.760 so everything

00:48:11.100 in its proper

00:48:11.820 place and

00:48:12.440 everyone deeded

00:48:13.820 their appropriate

00:48:14.660 level of

00:48:15.180 responsibility

00:48:15.820 and that's

00:48:16.500 the antidote

00:48:17.060 to tyranny

00:48:17.580 and slavery

00:48:18.120 and that's

00:48:18.740 the invitation

00:48:19.340 here too

00:48:19.900 it's like we

00:48:20.860 don't want to

00:48:21.280 do this top

00:48:21.980 down we want

00:48:23.180 to help figure

00:48:23.720 out how to

00:48:24.160 facilitate the

00:48:26.000 development of

00:48:26.560 responsible citizens

00:48:27.540 in well

00:48:28.680 functioning families

00:48:29.620 in well

00:48:30.600 constituted

00:48:31.320 communities in

00:48:32.140 properly put

00:48:33.000 together cities

00:48:33.740 and to leave

00:48:34.820 responsibility

00:48:35.780 requisite

00:48:36.580 responsibility

00:48:37.300 at every level

00:48:38.480 of that

00:48:39.000 hierarchical

00:48:40.000 structure

00:48:40.400 and that is

00:48:41.820 the antidote

00:48:42.580 the subsidiary

00:48:44.140 antidote to

00:48:45.140 tyranny and

00:48:46.500 the desert

00:48:47.060 we have

00:48:48.620 therefore initiated

00:48:49.480 the alliance for

00:48:50.180 responsible citizenship

00:48:51.320 arc a new

00:48:52.300 movement of

00:48:52.820 hopeful vision

00:48:53.660 well they say

00:48:54.640 the people

00:48:55.060 perish without

00:48:56.320 vision

00:48:56.820 what is hopeful

00:48:57.760 vision

00:48:58.180 well hopeful

00:49:00.480 vision is what

00:49:01.660 you're working

00:49:02.180 toward

00:49:02.660 you know you

00:49:03.580 think well if I

00:49:04.680 could have things

00:49:05.460 this way in my

00:49:06.480 family in my

00:49:07.220 life in my

00:49:08.740 community that

00:49:09.860 would be worthwhile

00:49:10.640 I could get on

00:49:11.600 board with that

00:49:12.420 well your vision

00:49:14.260 of the future

00:49:14.960 that attracts you

00:49:15.900 and also provides

00:49:17.080 you with security

00:49:17.900 and direction

00:49:19.160 orientation that

00:49:20.320 unites you with

00:49:21.120 others that's your

00:49:22.260 hopeful vision

00:49:23.060 and you perish

00:49:24.380 without that and

00:49:25.280 hopefully through

00:49:26.540 discussion and

00:49:27.360 negotiation we

00:49:28.260 could develop

00:49:28.700 something approximating

00:49:29.760 a collective hopeful

00:49:31.180 vision that we

00:49:31.900 could all be on

00:49:32.680 board with

00:49:33.280 like part of that

00:49:34.140 for me is

00:49:34.800 well how about if

00:49:36.180 we work as hard

00:49:36.980 as we can as

00:49:37.640 quickly as possible

00:49:38.420 to ameliorate

00:49:39.220 absolute poverty

00:49:40.240 provide inexpensive

00:49:41.760 energy as widely

00:49:43.220 as possible

00:49:43.880 everywhere in the

00:49:44.800 world and lift

00:49:45.480 people out of the

00:49:46.200 poverty that

00:49:46.800 what would you say

00:49:49.080 compels them to

00:49:50.700 adopt a

00:49:51.300 cataclysmically

00:49:52.020 short-term vision

00:49:52.880 of the world

00:49:53.500 now you know you

00:49:55.060 might say well

00:49:55.620 that's not priority

00:49:56.440 number one it's

00:49:57.220 like fair enough

00:49:57.880 we could have a

00:49:58.380 discussion about

00:49:59.000 what priority

00:49:59.580 number one might

00:50:00.280 be but

00:50:00.840 but that's

00:50:03.100 for me at least

00:50:04.340 an element of

00:50:04.940 what might

00:50:05.360 constitute a hopeful

00:50:06.240 vision and I

00:50:07.380 think it's a

00:50:07.740 realistic one too

00:50:08.620 given that

00:50:09.180 rich people care

00:50:10.500 more about the

00:50:11.220 planet they can

00:50:12.300 afford to

00:50:12.960 so aimed at

00:50:16.160 the collective

00:50:16.720 voluntary establishment

00:50:17.980 of a maximally

00:50:18.780 attractive route

00:50:19.460 forward well why

00:50:20.460 maximally attractive

00:50:21.440 so that people will

00:50:23.760 be on board

00:50:24.420 without compulsion

00:50:25.300 because one of our

00:50:27.120 principles is all

00:50:29.220 policy that requires

00:50:30.360 compulsion is

00:50:31.060 suboptimal now

00:50:32.520 you have to use

00:50:33.140 compulsion on

00:50:33.880 criminals now and

00:50:35.100 then psychopaths

00:50:36.360 people who just

00:50:37.420 will not abide by

00:50:38.660 any set of

00:50:39.420 principles whatsoever

00:50:40.380 except the

00:50:41.160 advancement of their

00:50:42.120 extraordinarily narrowly

00:50:43.740 defined self-interest

00:50:44.860 but other than that

00:50:46.200 if you set up an

00:50:47.480 organization and

00:50:48.800 people aren't

00:50:49.640 willingly on board

00:50:50.920 you haven't

00:50:52.020 developed your

00:50:52.740 vision properly

00:50:53.500 and so we want to

00:50:55.260 do that

00:50:55.700 collectively

00:50:56.580 in response

00:50:58.240 to the questions

00:50:59.700 that admittedly

00:51:00.540 we are putting

00:51:01.060 forth

00:51:01.440 voluntary establishment

00:51:04.100 well you get the

00:51:05.720 best out of people

00:51:06.440 if they're voluntarily

00:51:07.280 on board

00:51:07.880 you know you don't

00:51:08.440 want to play a game

00:51:09.220 with someone who's

00:51:09.780 being forced to

00:51:10.520 play with you

00:51:11.200 now that's that's

00:51:12.260 the definition of

00:51:13.240 fatal social

00:51:15.100 catastrophe even when

00:51:16.340 you're a kid you

00:51:17.160 know your neighbor's

00:51:18.820 mother has to tell

00:51:19.760 his son

00:51:20.460 your neighbor's

00:51:21.960 mother

00:51:23.880 you have a kid

00:51:26.900 next door you'd

00:51:27.500 like to be friends

00:51:28.120 with and he won't

00:51:28.860 play with you unless

00:51:29.660 his mother tells

00:51:30.440 you to

00:51:30.800 well that's

00:51:31.960 tells him to

00:51:33.260 that's not going

00:51:34.040 to be very fun

00:51:34.620 for you or for

00:51:35.380 him

00:51:35.640 you can't have

00:51:37.180 an optimally

00:51:37.740 structured social

00:51:38.540 organization that

00:51:39.480 relies on

00:51:40.660 involuntary

00:51:41.760 participation

00:51:42.440 so

00:51:43.200 voluntary

00:51:44.540 establishment

00:51:45.160 the arc will

00:51:46.300 open itself up

00:51:47.120 to widespread

00:51:47.620 public membership

00:51:48.520 as rapidly

00:51:49.220 and extensively

00:51:50.000 as is practically

00:51:51.000 manageable

00:51:51.540 at as low a

00:51:52.960 cost as is

00:51:54.140 possible and

00:51:54.800 desirable

00:51:55.180 because nothing's

00:51:56.540 free

00:51:56.860 so that everyone

00:51:58.500 interested can aid

00:51:59.500 in voluntarily

00:52:00.280 formulating this

00:52:01.300 story and strategy

00:52:02.200 and to discuss

00:52:03.080 how its implementation

00:52:03.900 might be encouraged

00:52:04.840 now I set up a

00:52:05.880 mailing list already

00:52:06.960 which will be a

00:52:07.920 precursor let's say

00:52:09.200 to a broad

00:52:09.720 membership list

00:52:10.600 and I'll put the

00:52:11.660 link to the mailing

00:52:12.540 list in this video

00:52:13.980 so that you can sign

00:52:15.060 up there's about

00:52:15.620 30,000 people that

00:52:16.860 have signed up to

00:52:17.580 that mailing list

00:52:18.220 already and we're

00:52:19.420 going to put up a

00:52:19.860 website where the

00:52:21.040 questions I'm posing

00:52:22.140 today or we're posing

00:52:23.520 today can be answered

00:52:25.620 and where people can

00:52:26.780 vote on the answers

00:52:27.700 and so you know

00:52:29.380 that's not a perfect

00:52:30.100 voting structure but

00:52:31.200 but it's not

00:52:32.460 nothing and we can

00:52:33.320 probably improve it

00:52:34.080 as we move forward

00:52:35.000 we're also announcing

00:52:36.500 our first conference

00:52:37.680 slated for Greenwich

00:52:39.580 London

00:52:39.980 England

00:52:40.600 October 30th and

00:52:42.540 31st and November

00:52:44.060 1st

00:52:45.020 concentrating on

00:52:46.940 issues

00:52:47.400 metaphysical

00:52:48.560 cultural

00:52:50.020 and practical

00:52:50.880 so we would like

00:52:51.900 this to be a

00:52:52.420 beautiful conference

00:52:53.340 we'd like it to

00:52:54.660 focus on

00:52:55.440 elements beyond the

00:52:57.340 political cultural

00:52:58.160 elements

00:52:58.600 philosophical

00:53:00.780 elements

00:53:01.600 psychological

00:53:01.980 elements

00:53:02.700 issues pertaining

00:53:04.560 to the meaning of

00:53:05.380 life the significance

00:53:06.280 of existence

00:53:07.040 and and then also

00:53:08.740 to become practical

00:53:09.760 in with regard to

00:53:11.160 the realization of

00:53:12.600 policy and to

00:53:14.720 start that discussion

00:53:15.600 some of this

00:53:16.980 conference

00:53:17.520 will be necessarily

00:53:19.860 limited in its

00:53:20.720 scale to 2,000

00:53:21.860 or so initial

00:53:23.020 attendees

00:53:23.540 some of it will be

00:53:25.520 made open to as

00:53:26.480 wide a swath of

00:53:27.380 the public as

00:53:28.620 possible

00:53:29.380 the happenings on

00:53:32.320 both fronts will be

00:53:33.280 made available online

00:53:34.360 insofar as that is

00:53:35.400 pragmatically possible

00:53:36.460 either live or

00:53:37.300 recorded for later

00:53:38.140 reading viewing or

00:53:39.740 listening

00:53:40.080 we'll have 2,000

00:53:41.620 people there

00:53:42.160 I hope to do a

00:53:43.140 public talk in the

00:53:44.060 midst of that

00:53:44.680 and at the O2

00:53:46.340 if we can get that

00:53:47.460 arranged

00:53:47.900 we'll get

00:53:48.720 something approximating

00:53:50.320 15,000 people to

00:53:51.500 that

00:53:51.760 and do

00:53:53.240 a series of

00:53:54.740 discussions in one

00:53:55.600 evening about the

00:53:56.520 fundamental issues

00:53:57.320 that the conference

00:53:57.980 is going to

00:53:58.560 discuss

00:53:58.920 and as I said

00:53:59.940 we'll record the

00:54:01.240 conference proceedings

00:54:02.140 so that people

00:54:03.280 who are interested

00:54:04.200 can see what's

00:54:07.320 going on

00:54:07.880 we'll do it

00:54:09.040 live

00:54:09.920 online as much

00:54:12.140 as that's possible

00:54:12.880 but we're also not

00:54:13.760 going to sacrifice

00:54:14.420 the utility of

00:54:15.460 the in-person

00:54:17.100 meeting to that

00:54:17.880 end

00:54:18.160 and then we'll

00:54:19.180 try to expand

00:54:19.840 that as we move

00:54:20.600 forward

00:54:20.940 you know

00:54:21.300 you've got to

00:54:22.000 start

00:54:22.300 on not too

00:54:24.740 large a scale

00:54:25.440 if you want to

00:54:25.980 figure out how to

00:54:26.460 make something

00:54:26.860 work

00:54:27.240 we plan

00:54:29.060 as well

00:54:29.540 to render

00:54:30.020 the operations

00:54:30.760 of the ark

00:54:31.460 public and

00:54:32.200 transparent

00:54:32.760 to operate

00:54:33.860 under the

00:54:34.300 assumption

00:54:34.680 that each

00:54:35.880 citizen has

00:54:36.600 the inalienable

00:54:37.420 right

00:54:37.800 and is well

00:54:38.980 equipped

00:54:39.360 when engaged

00:54:40.160 informed

00:54:40.760 and consulted

00:54:41.520 to choose

00:54:42.840 and adhere

00:54:43.760 to to the

00:54:44.580 desirable

00:54:45.340 sustainable

00:54:45.940 productive

00:54:46.440 and generous

00:54:47.120 future path

00:54:48.060 so I'm hoping

00:54:49.820 that everybody

00:54:50.320 involved is wise

00:54:51.380 enough not to

00:54:52.140 think that they're

00:54:52.940 the only person

00:54:54.260 in the room

00:54:55.560 or on the

00:54:56.080 planet who's

00:54:56.760 wise

00:54:57.260 you know

00:54:58.140 my sense

00:55:00.000 of the world

00:55:00.540 is that there

00:55:01.620 are extraordinarily

00:55:02.620 competent people

00:55:03.580 operating at

00:55:04.280 every domain

00:55:05.120 ranging from

00:55:06.160 the sheerly

00:55:07.400 practical wisdom

00:55:08.840 of plumbers

00:55:09.860 and carpenters

00:55:11.780 and highway

00:55:13.180 workmen

00:55:13.800 and who do

00:55:15.060 their job

00:55:15.640 diligently

00:55:16.400 and properly

00:55:17.180 complex though

00:55:18.620 it is

00:55:19.100 to people

00:55:19.980 who are

00:55:20.520 operating

00:55:21.300 in the realm

00:55:21.760 of abstraction

00:55:22.460 and that

00:55:22.980 for things

00:55:23.880 to work out

00:55:24.400 properly

00:55:24.820 everybody

00:55:25.580 at every

00:55:26.080 level

00:55:26.400 has to

00:55:27.520 value

00:55:28.860 their

00:55:29.260 productive

00:55:29.840 capacity

00:55:30.460 be valued

00:55:31.280 for their

00:55:31.620 productive

00:55:31.940 capacity

00:55:32.480 and be seen

00:55:33.240 to operate

00:55:34.720 as

00:55:36.540 contributing

00:55:38.020 members

00:55:38.460 to the broader

00:55:39.040 social endeavor

00:55:39.880 and to be

00:55:40.400 regarded as

00:55:41.120 valid

00:55:41.520 contributing

00:55:42.000 members

00:55:42.420 and that's

00:55:43.140 not some

00:55:43.920 utopian dream

00:55:44.800 that's

00:55:45.400 hard-headed

00:55:45.900 reality

00:55:46.480 so the

00:55:50.140 more people

00:55:50.640 that participate

00:55:51.360 and the

00:55:51.720 more people

00:55:52.600 we can consult

00:55:53.460 insofar as

00:55:54.540 it's possible

00:55:55.040 to aggregate

00:55:55.580 a diverse

00:55:56.140 range of

00:55:56.580 voices

00:55:56.940 the better

00:55:58.320 as far as

00:55:58.960 we're striving

00:56:01.620 to be

00:56:02.120 concerned

00:56:02.680 and so

00:56:04.460 the sheer

00:56:06.400 complexity

00:56:06.900 of the world

00:56:07.540 and the

00:56:08.680 genuine

00:56:09.020 diversity

00:56:09.520 of individual

00:56:10.180 ability

00:56:10.640 and preference

00:56:11.180 means that

00:56:12.220 distributed

00:56:13.400 decision making

00:56:14.180 is a necessity

00:56:14.960 not a luxury

00:56:15.920 no elite

00:56:17.580 technocracy

00:56:18.620 is capable

00:56:20.640 of knowing

00:56:21.140 best

00:56:21.660 and then

00:56:22.440 determining

00:56:23.100 how we

00:56:23.980 should all

00:56:24.620 move forward

00:56:25.420 as individuals

00:56:26.520 and communities

00:56:27.300 it follows

00:56:29.480 from this

00:56:30.180 that policy

00:56:30.740 requiring

00:56:31.260 compulsion

00:56:31.860 let alone

00:56:32.600 force

00:56:34.140 rather than

00:56:35.180 the voluntary

00:56:35.720 assent of the

00:56:36.560 participants

00:56:37.020 is bad

00:56:38.460 policy

00:56:39.040 we therefore

00:56:41.320 offer for the

00:56:42.080 contemplation of

00:56:42.860 those potentially

00:56:44.000 interested in our

00:56:44.760 invitation

00:56:45.280 six fundamental

00:56:46.500 questions

00:56:47.220 the answers to

00:56:49.100 which might

00:56:49.860 form the

00:56:50.340 basis for a

00:56:51.160 vision that

00:56:52.620 is voluntarily

00:56:53.260 compelling

00:56:53.820 motivating

00:56:54.860 that moves you

00:56:56.460 forward into the

00:56:57.020 future

00:56:57.300 stabilizing

00:56:58.480 provides a

00:56:59.520 certain amount

00:57:00.040 of structure

00:57:00.640 so that you're

00:57:01.400 not overwhelmed

00:57:01.960 by complexity

00:57:02.600 and uniting

00:57:03.820 uniting in that

00:57:05.100 if we all share

00:57:06.020 the vision or

00:57:06.700 to the degree

00:57:07.380 that we do

00:57:08.000 we're going to

00:57:08.800 be moving forward

00:57:09.660 in a manner

00:57:11.500 that's mutually

00:57:12.380 comprehensible

00:57:14.400 productive

00:57:15.720 stabilizing

00:57:16.740 and hopeful

00:57:18.040 well that'd be

00:57:20.080 good

00:57:20.400 domain one

00:57:22.740 vision and story

00:57:23.720 what destiny

00:57:25.000 might we

00:57:25.740 envision and

00:57:26.700 pursue

00:57:27.240 such that we

00:57:28.360 are maximally

00:57:29.600 fortified against

00:57:30.680 anxiety and

00:57:31.500 despair

00:57:31.960 motivated by

00:57:33.480 faith and hope

00:57:34.400 and voluntarily

00:57:35.840 united in our

00:57:36.980 pursuit of a

00:57:37.740 flourishing and

00:57:38.880 abundant world

00:57:39.860 responsible

00:57:41.920 citizenship

00:57:42.680 how might we

00:57:44.600 encourage individuals

00:57:45.520 to reflect

00:57:46.280 and to act

00:57:47.860 so that they

00:57:49.740 adopt full

00:57:51.100 voluntary

00:57:52.580 responsibility for

00:57:53.820 themselves

00:57:54.380 present and

00:57:55.680 future

00:57:56.140 that's

00:57:57.200 that's the

00:57:58.380 difference between

00:57:59.060 impulsive self-interest

00:58:00.240 and wise self-interest

00:58:01.560 right

00:58:01.900 if you're wise

00:58:02.860 you act in the

00:58:03.860 present

00:58:04.260 so that

00:58:05.340 the future

00:58:06.440 you will

00:58:07.140 benefit

00:58:07.620 from your

00:58:08.180 actions in

00:58:08.720 the present

00:58:09.120 you don't do

00:58:10.020 that if you're

00:58:10.560 impulsive or

00:58:11.220 hedonistic

00:58:11.880 how might we

00:58:13.580 encourage individuals

00:58:14.520 to reflect and

00:58:15.320 to act so that

00:58:16.000 they adopt full

00:58:16.840 voluntary responsibility

00:58:18.120 for themselves

00:58:18.940 present and

00:58:19.840 future

00:58:20.180 as well as

00:58:21.460 their families

00:58:22.740 and communities

00:58:23.560 so that's that

00:58:24.540 extension of

00:58:25.300 individual

00:58:25.780 responsibility

00:58:26.540 from the

00:58:27.440 bottom up

00:58:28.040 from the

00:58:28.620 local upward

00:58:29.500 and

00:58:30.420 how to

00:58:32.040 how to

00:58:32.460 how to

00:58:33.080 encourage that

00:58:33.840 recognize it

00:58:34.660 fortify it

00:58:35.520 develop it

00:58:36.300 distribute it

00:58:37.440 family and

00:58:38.920 social fabric

00:58:39.720 sort of moving

00:58:40.640 up the

00:58:41.080 hierarchy of

00:58:41.880 society

00:58:42.560 how might we

00:58:43.700 effectively

00:58:44.280 conceptualize

00:58:45.400 value

00:58:47.040 and reward

00:58:49.240 the sacrificial

00:58:50.780 long-term

00:58:52.600 peaceful

00:58:53.480 child-centered

00:58:55.360 intimate

00:58:56.200 relationships

00:58:57.060 upon which

00:58:58.040 psychological

00:58:58.920 integrity

00:58:59.480 and social

00:59:00.320 stability

00:59:00.860 most

00:59:01.640 fundamentally

00:59:02.580 depend

00:59:03.920 well the

00:59:05.240 minimal model

00:59:06.800 for that

00:59:07.400 is something

00:59:08.920 approximating the

00:59:09.820 nuclear family

00:59:10.620 right

00:59:10.940 long-term

00:59:12.120 committed

00:59:12.640 stable

00:59:13.620 heterosexual

00:59:14.820 marriages

00:59:15.800 sanctified by

00:59:17.360 the community

00:59:18.280 and by

00:59:19.240 the

00:59:20.080 tradition

00:59:21.040 providing the

00:59:22.820 basis for

00:59:23.660 the mutual

00:59:25.400 for mutually

00:59:26.560 satisfying

00:59:27.400 and engaging

00:59:28.660 relationship

00:59:30.080 for the

00:59:30.860 adults

00:59:31.180 involved

00:59:31.780 and offering

00:59:33.140 the necessary

00:59:34.380 minimal

00:59:34.800 foundation

00:59:35.500 for the

00:59:36.780 security

00:59:37.320 for the

00:59:37.840 for the

00:59:38.480 creation and

00:59:39.500 security of

00:59:40.080 children

00:59:40.420 and so

00:59:41.540 well we have

00:59:43.380 to discuss

00:59:43.920 exactly what

00:59:44.880 that means

00:59:45.420 at the

00:59:46.040 minimal level

00:59:46.900 I'm

00:59:48.880 particularly

00:59:50.260 impressed

00:59:50.820 this is me

00:59:51.800 not ARC

00:59:52.580 by the way

00:59:53.120 with the

00:59:53.860 Hungarian

00:59:54.320 family policy

00:59:55.920 provisions that

00:59:57.320 have been put

00:59:57.680 forward most

00:59:58.260 recently I

00:59:59.400 think they're

00:59:59.920 well worth

01:00:00.860 considering

01:00:01.400 if you're a

01:00:03.360 mother in

01:00:04.440 Hungary

01:00:04.760 you have one

01:00:06.780 child you're

01:00:07.860 exempt from

01:00:08.420 income tax

01:00:08.960 25% of

01:00:09.900 income tax

01:00:10.360 for the rest

01:00:10.740 of your life

01:00:11.220 and that

01:00:11.800 scales up to

01:00:12.720 four children

01:00:13.920 100% reduction

01:00:15.200 and I like

01:00:16.180 that because

01:00:16.820 well it

01:00:18.880 it helps

01:00:20.540 redress the

01:00:21.560 imbalance in

01:00:22.740 relationship to

01:00:23.620 reproductive

01:00:24.120 responsibility that's

01:00:25.360 part and parcel of

01:00:26.180 the human

01:00:26.520 existential landscape

01:00:27.520 and you know

01:00:28.240 maybe that's not a

01:00:28.900 perfect solution

01:00:29.620 but it seems to

01:00:31.400 me a variant of

01:00:32.200 the solution that

01:00:33.060 the feminists to

01:00:34.700 give the devil

01:00:35.320 his or in this

01:00:37.380 case her do

01:00:38.100 have been

01:00:38.580 clamoring for

01:00:39.440 forever

01:00:40.500 certainly for the

01:00:41.660 last 300 years

01:00:42.760 people aren't

01:00:45.560 isolated and

01:00:46.240 atomistic

01:00:46.780 individuals

01:00:47.340 they need a

01:00:48.140 family context

01:00:49.000 what that

01:00:49.660 family context

01:00:50.600 minimally

01:00:52.280 constitutes

01:00:53.120 particularly in

01:00:54.260 the ideal

01:00:54.760 can be subject

01:00:55.860 to intense

01:00:56.440 discussion

01:00:56.980 as a

01:00:58.080 conservative

01:00:58.740 in this

01:00:59.180 matter

01:00:59.440 I tilt

01:00:59.920 towards the

01:01:00.740 minimal

01:01:01.860 traditional

01:01:02.600 nuclear

01:01:02.980 family unit

01:01:03.800 and

01:01:04.500 having said

01:01:06.780 that though

01:01:07.220 I would also

01:01:07.760 say that I

01:01:08.400 know perfectly

01:01:09.000 well that

01:01:09.540 we all fall

01:01:10.460 short of the

01:01:11.080 ideal

01:01:11.520 and that

01:01:12.580 many people

01:01:16.700 are divorced

01:01:17.380 many people

01:01:18.040 are unable

01:01:18.420 to find a

01:01:18.920 partner

01:01:19.240 people

01:01:21.400 people's

01:01:22.260 spouses die

01:01:23.060 we're

01:01:24.940 unfaithful

01:01:25.640 to each

01:01:25.980 other

01:01:26.340 homosexuality

01:01:29.000 is an

01:01:29.320 eternal

01:01:29.620 reality

01:01:30.200 and even

01:01:33.220 within the

01:01:33.680 confines of

01:01:34.260 a traditional

01:01:34.720 marriage

01:01:35.200 there isn't

01:01:36.780 a person

01:01:37.120 alive who

01:01:37.800 makes that

01:01:39.880 ideal manifest

01:01:40.780 in all possible

01:01:41.580 ways at every

01:01:42.280 possible moment

01:01:43.060 and so we

01:01:43.560 need an ideal

01:01:44.280 on the family

01:01:45.540 front that we

01:01:46.660 all hold as

01:01:47.340 an ideal

01:01:47.840 and that's

01:01:48.660 probably something

01:01:49.320 like the

01:01:49.740 heterosexual

01:01:50.340 nuclear family

01:01:51.280 at least in my

01:01:52.580 estimation

01:01:53.060 with a very

01:01:54.200 wide swath

01:01:55.160 of genuine

01:01:56.720 tolerance for

01:01:57.720 human variation

01:02:00.540 surrounding it

01:02:01.640 but the fact

01:02:03.040 that that

01:02:03.380 tolerance exists

01:02:04.380 and that there

01:02:05.520 is recognition

01:02:06.220 of the fringe

01:02:06.940 and its right

01:02:07.560 to exist

01:02:08.060 doesn't mean

01:02:08.640 that we should

01:02:09.080 sacrifice the

01:02:09.840 ideal

01:02:10.160 I think when

01:02:11.400 we do that

01:02:11.880 we destroy

01:02:12.400 the center

01:02:12.920 and we

01:02:13.820 destroy the

01:02:14.400 fringe

01:02:14.780 so

01:02:15.780 going up a

01:02:18.260 level

01:02:18.480 free exchange

01:02:19.220 and good

01:02:19.580 governance

01:02:20.060 how can

01:02:21.720 we continue

01:02:22.280 to gain

01:02:22.900 from the

01:02:23.360 genius of

01:02:24.100 unbridled

01:02:24.760 human innovation

01:02:25.520 and the

01:02:26.120 productive

01:02:26.700 reciprocity

01:02:27.520 of voluntary

01:02:28.280 production

01:02:28.840 and free

01:02:29.400 exchange

01:02:30.000 while protecting

01:02:33.500 ourselves

01:02:33.940 against the

01:02:34.480 tendency of

01:02:35.020 successful

01:02:35.460 organizations

01:02:36.200 to degenerate

01:02:37.780 into a state

01:02:38.480 of willfully

01:02:39.100 blind and

01:02:39.960 narrowly

01:02:40.440 self-serving

01:02:41.340 authoritarianism

01:02:42.340 well there's a

01:02:43.380 free market

01:02:43.840 element to that

01:02:44.640 the idea there

01:02:45.460 is that we're

01:02:46.620 all best served

01:02:47.340 when people are

01:02:47.980 left the hell

01:02:48.540 alone to do

01:02:49.180 what they need

01:02:49.720 to do

01:02:50.140 to produce

01:02:50.980 what they can

01:02:51.460 produce and

01:02:52.020 to trade

01:02:52.500 but we also

01:02:53.680 have to

01:02:54.300 as the

01:02:55.100 reasonable

01:02:56.780 left-wingers

01:02:57.520 insist

01:02:58.020 note when

01:02:59.560 any enterprise

01:03:00.980 of any

01:03:01.840 magnitude

01:03:02.300 gets so

01:03:03.920 large

01:03:04.460 that it

01:03:05.340 starts to

01:03:06.160 co-opt

01:03:07.140 the very

01:03:08.140 rules by

01:03:08.860 which the

01:03:09.240 game is

01:03:09.600 played

01:03:09.960 and so

01:03:10.960 we have to

01:03:11.500 sort that

01:03:11.880 out

01:03:12.180 and that's

01:03:13.460 complicated

01:03:14.060 how do we

01:03:15.160 forestall

01:03:16.200 regulatory

01:03:17.100 capture

01:03:17.860 and the

01:03:18.720 proclivity

01:03:19.180 of

01:03:19.560 government

01:03:20.280 corporation

01:03:21.280 and

01:03:21.920 communication

01:03:22.660 enterprise

01:03:23.280 alike

01:03:23.880 to

01:03:24.440 collude

01:03:25.260 at the

01:03:25.960 highest

01:03:26.300 levels

01:03:26.740 of

01:03:26.960 abstraction

01:03:27.540 and

01:03:28.080 become

01:03:28.800 authoritarian

01:03:30.380 and self-serving

01:03:31.420 energy and

01:03:33.420 resources

01:03:33.960 how do we

01:03:36.880 ensure provision

01:03:37.760 of the energy

01:03:38.580 and other

01:03:39.020 resources

01:03:39.540 crucial to

01:03:40.580 our shared

01:03:41.040 security and

01:03:41.680 opportunity

01:03:42.180 in a manner

01:03:43.080 that is

01:03:43.480 inexpensive

01:03:44.320 reliable

01:03:45.280 safe

01:03:45.840 efficient

01:03:46.440 and widely

01:03:47.640 and universally

01:03:48.580 accessible

01:03:49.200 energy is

01:03:52.600 work

01:03:52.960 work is the

01:03:53.900 amelioration of

01:03:54.720 absolute poverty

01:03:55.540 we want to

01:03:57.980 provide energy

01:03:59.500 as widely as

01:04:00.360 possible

01:04:00.780 at as low a

01:04:02.600 price is

01:04:03.320 properly

01:04:05.000 sustainable

01:04:05.760 within the

01:04:06.380 confines of a

01:04:07.140 market economy

01:04:08.100 and we want to

01:04:08.920 do that as

01:04:09.400 rapidly as we

01:04:10.120 can

01:04:10.340 there's no

01:04:11.280 excuse for

01:04:12.140 putting forward

01:04:14.180 energy policies

01:04:15.380 that punish

01:04:16.820 those who are

01:04:17.840 absolutely poor

01:04:18.720 it will not

01:04:19.900 help them

01:04:20.840 it will hurt

01:04:21.640 them

01:04:21.880 we have no

01:04:22.800 right to do

01:04:23.340 that

01:04:23.620 we have no

01:04:24.300 right to deny

01:04:25.020 the developing

01:04:25.620 world here in

01:04:26.700 the west

01:04:27.100 those of us

01:04:28.000 who have that

01:04:28.500 western privilege

01:04:29.460 we have no

01:04:30.200 right to deny

01:04:30.860 the developing

01:04:31.400 world the

01:04:31.860 opportunity to

01:04:32.860 pursue the

01:04:33.340 opportunities

01:04:33.900 that we've

01:04:34.860 been blessed

01:04:35.860 to pursue

01:04:36.680 and

01:04:38.100 furthermore

01:04:39.520 if we do

01:04:40.260 deny them

01:04:40.820 that opportunity

01:04:41.520 we will not

01:04:42.220 produce a

01:04:42.740 beneficial

01:04:43.120 environmental

01:04:43.980 outcome

01:04:44.420 you play a

01:04:45.520 net zero

01:04:46.140 you play a

01:04:46.940 zero-sum game

01:04:48.140 you're going to

01:04:49.280 get a

01:04:50.000 conflict-ridden

01:04:52.540 catastrophic

01:04:53.320 outcome

01:04:53.960 it's not a

01:04:55.080 good model for

01:04:55.700 governance

01:04:56.140 so

01:04:57.120 and then

01:04:59.760 environmental

01:05:00.560 stewardship

01:05:01.080 stewardship

01:05:02.600 right

01:05:03.040 that's not

01:05:03.800 that word

01:05:04.660 itself implies

01:05:05.460 that human

01:05:05.900 beings are not

01:05:06.460 a cancer on

01:05:07.100 the face of

01:05:07.520 the planet

01:05:07.880 and that we

01:05:08.280 do not exist

01:05:09.080 in pure

01:05:09.760 opposition to

01:05:10.640 some hypothetically

01:05:11.480 pristine natural

01:05:12.400 order

01:05:12.820 we're part and

01:05:13.900 parcel of the

01:05:14.560 cosmos just like

01:05:15.500 all the other

01:05:15.960 creatures and

01:05:17.300 we're conscious

01:05:18.220 and self-conscious

01:05:19.360 to a degree that

01:05:21.040 makes us unique

01:05:21.820 and we have

01:05:22.640 opportunity

01:05:25.260 power and

01:05:26.880 responsibility

01:05:27.740 that's commensurate

01:05:28.740 with that

01:05:29.240 differentiated ability

01:05:30.620 how might we

01:05:32.180 properly pursue

01:05:33.100 the environmental

01:05:33.780 stewardship

01:05:34.540 that most

01:05:35.900 truly serves

01:05:36.700 the needs

01:05:37.300 and wants

01:05:37.720 of all

01:05:38.060 individuals

01:05:38.540 today

01:05:38.980 tomorrow

01:05:39.640 and into

01:05:40.280 the foreseeable

01:05:40.960 future

01:05:41.400 and that's a lot

01:05:42.780 different than

01:05:43.380 how do we

01:05:44.660 sacrifice human

01:05:45.520 interest to save

01:05:46.500 the virginal planet

01:05:47.800 concluding words

01:05:51.480 we at the

01:05:57.700 alliance for

01:05:58.400 responsible

01:05:58.960 citizenship

01:05:59.520 we at

01:06:00.640 ARC

01:06:00.980 do not

01:06:01.540 believe that

01:06:02.180 humanity is

01:06:02.960 necessarily and

01:06:03.920 inevitably teetering

01:06:04.960 on the brink of

01:06:06.260 apocalyptic

01:06:06.960 disaster

01:06:07.620 we do not

01:06:08.820 believe that

01:06:09.360 we are beings

01:06:10.300 primarily

01:06:11.660 motivated by

01:06:12.540 lust for

01:06:13.020 power and

01:06:13.820 the desire

01:06:14.480 to dominate

01:06:15.400 we do not

01:06:17.600 regard

01:06:18.040 ourselves

01:06:18.900 or our

01:06:20.320 fellow citizens

01:06:21.240 as destructive

01:06:23.600 forces

01:06:24.220 living in an

01:06:25.200 alien relationship

01:06:26.020 to the pristine

01:06:27.440 and pure

01:06:28.160 natural world

01:06:29.420 we posit

01:06:31.080 instead

01:06:33.420 that men and

01:06:34.580 women of

01:06:35.020 faith and

01:06:35.640 decisiveness

01:06:36.260 made in the

01:06:37.160 image of God

01:06:37.960 can arrange

01:06:39.200 their affairs

01:06:39.960 with care and

01:06:40.900 attention

01:06:41.300 so that

01:06:42.100 abundance and

01:06:42.840 opportunity

01:06:43.360 could be

01:06:44.380 available for

01:06:45.480 all

01:06:45.940 those who

01:06:49.160 present a

01:06:49.880 vision of

01:06:50.840 inevitable

01:06:51.680 catastrophe

01:06:52.500 in the

01:06:53.340 absence of

01:06:54.560 severely enforced

01:06:56.020 material

01:06:56.780 privation

01:06:57.580 are not

01:06:59.140 wise seers

01:07:00.280 of the

01:07:01.060 inevitable

01:07:01.700 future

01:07:02.280 but

01:07:03.440 forlorn

01:07:04.360 prisoners

01:07:04.860 of their

01:07:05.560 own

01:07:05.960 limited

01:07:06.740 faithless

01:07:07.760 imaginations

01:07:08.900 and those

01:07:10.240 who scheme

01:07:10.980 to lead

01:07:12.220 using

01:07:13.240 terror

01:07:14.160 as a

01:07:14.860 motivator

01:07:15.400 and force

01:07:16.580 as a

01:07:17.100 cudgel

01:07:17.580 reveal

01:07:19.320 themselves

01:07:19.800 by definition

01:07:20.700 as unfit

01:07:21.660 for the

01:07:22.080 job

01:07:22.520 we hope

01:07:25.220 and I

01:07:28.220 think we

01:07:28.700 truly hope

01:07:29.620 and

01:07:30.860 in our

01:07:32.180 wiser

01:07:32.540 moments

01:07:33.020 truly pray

01:07:33.900 we hope

01:07:35.720 to encourage

01:07:36.260 the development

01:07:36.880 of an

01:07:37.280 alternative

01:07:37.740 pathway

01:07:38.900 uphill

01:07:39.820 out of

01:07:41.100 both

01:07:41.380 tyranny

01:07:41.840 and the

01:07:42.600 desert

01:07:42.980 stabilizing

01:07:44.540 unifying

01:07:45.560 and compelling

01:07:47.540 to men

01:07:48.340 and women

01:07:48.700 of sound

01:07:49.340 judgment

01:07:49.900 and

01:07:50.800 free will

01:07:52.260 welcome

01:07:56.140 aboard the

01:07:56.960 ark

01:07:57.360 all right

01:08:03.700 that's

01:08:06.260 that

01:08:08.000 and so

01:08:09.480 I'm

01:08:10.700 working

01:08:10.980 diligently

01:08:11.520 with

01:08:12.060 the people

01:08:13.960 who've

01:08:14.500 agreed to

01:08:15.880 shoulder the

01:08:16.400 initial

01:08:16.780 responsibility

01:08:17.480 for this

01:08:18.040 project

01:08:18.400 to

01:08:18.900 try

01:08:21.040 with all

01:08:21.940 our might

01:08:22.320 to do

01:08:22.700 exactly

01:08:23.200 what I

01:08:23.600 just

01:08:23.800 described

01:08:24.340 right

01:08:24.780 to

01:08:25.020 produce

01:08:25.440 a

01:08:25.600 decentralized

01:08:26.040 vision

01:08:26.660 that's

01:08:27.420 as

01:08:27.600 attractive

01:08:28.020 to

01:08:28.280 people

01:08:28.620 as

01:08:29.580 we

01:08:29.740 can

01:08:29.880 make

01:08:30.120 it

01:08:30.320 in the

01:08:30.940 hopes

01:08:31.140 that

01:08:31.360 we

01:08:31.540 can

01:08:31.800 unite

01:08:32.660 our

01:08:32.900 vision

01:08:33.240 and

01:08:33.760 move

01:08:35.000 towards

01:08:35.420 the

01:08:35.620 future

01:08:35.940 that

01:08:36.140 we

01:08:36.320 all

01:08:36.740 would

01:08:38.200 need

01:08:38.540 and

01:08:38.760 want

01:08:39.080 if

01:08:39.320 we

01:08:39.500 wisely

01:08:39.920 chose

01:08:40.420 what

01:08:40.700 we

01:08:41.640 need

01:08:42.520 and

01:08:42.700 want

01:08:43.000 and

01:08:43.860 if

01:08:44.220 you

01:08:44.360 would

01:08:44.500 like

01:08:44.680 to

01:08:44.860 participate

01:08:45.360 then

01:08:46.680 we'll

01:08:47.520 do

01:08:47.680 everything

01:08:48.040 we

01:08:48.340 possibly

01:08:49.020 can

01:08:49.460 within

01:08:49.920 the

01:08:50.160 bounds

01:08:50.500 of

01:08:50.680 ability

01:08:51.160 and will

01:08:52.020 to make

01:08:52.740 that

01:08:52.980 possible

01:08:53.440 and so

01:08:54.800 welcome

01:08:56.220 to the

01:08:56.680 table

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - March 13, 2023

339. The Future： Vision and Invitation

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