The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - October 24, 2024


492. A Psychological Analysis of Trump’s Personality by Dr. Jordan B. Peterson

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Donald Trump Robert F. Kennedy Elon Musk JD Vance Sam Harris Gabbard Jordan Peterson Donald J Hillary Clinton Tony Stark Bill Barr Friedrich Nietzsche Tony Hinchcliffe Michael Jackson David Letterman Comedy Central Charles Xavier Elvis Presley Jared Kushner Javier Malay and 16 more
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Donald Trump was a self-promoting, bombastic, quintessentially American-type celebrity. He was a TV host, a reality television host, and a presidential candidate. And yet, despite all of his success, he seemed to have a thick skin. Is there something about Trump that makes him so difficult to read, or is there something more to him than meets the eye? In this episode, we explore the psychology of Trump, and try to figure out what it is about him that keeps him in the public eye, and why it s so difficult for people to see past his tweets and tweets to see beyond them to understand who he really is and why he s so good at what he does the way he does. To find a list of our sponsors and show-related promo codes, go to gimlet.fm/sponsorships and use promo code: PODCAST to receive 10% off your first purchase when you enter the discount code: PRODUCER10 at checkout. Thanks to our sponsor, Scotiabank.ca/PRODUCERS. Each episode is a weekly show that breaks down what you need to know, so you can better understand the world of money, investing, saving, and investing, and everything else going on in the world around them. Subscribe to our new show and get 10% all year long! Subscribe today using promo code PODCODE10 for 10% OFFERS, and get 20% off the first week of your first month of your choice of a new month-wide discount offer. You won't have to pay more than $99, and you'll get 5% off next month, plus an ad-free version of the next month! You'll get 7 months of the ad discount when you buy a year-only deal, and they'll get an ad discount, too get an extra $100, plus a two-month VIP membership when you get a month-only offer starts starting and they get 5 months get the same thing, they'll also get VIP access to the ad-only course, and two months get a discount, and all other places get a complimentary promo code, and 7 months get 5-they'll get full access to VIP access, plus they'll receive $19% off VIP access and a discount starts starts only that gets full-up for VIP access starts starts, they also get full service starts, too, they get it all that starts in two weeks.

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00:00:30.000 I suppose I have had the same problems with once and maybe again President Donald J. Trump
00:00:49.340 that are shared by many.
00:00:51.500 It wasn't obvious to me at all that his first shot at the leadership of the world's most powerful country
00:00:58.160 was anything other than a brilliant and unorthodox marketing scheme.
00:01:05.120 Now be it one that succeeded beyond the wildest of imaginings.
00:01:09.360 Congratulations, Mr. President.
00:01:10.600 I knew him only at that point as a self-promoting, bombastic, quintessentially American-type celebrity
00:01:22.460 reminiscent in my imagination of Colonel Tom Parker,
00:01:27.180 the morally ambivalent, although indubitably successful, promoter of Elvis Presley.
00:01:32.420 However, Trump made a name for himself in the difficult business of construction
00:01:38.280 where, particularly in cities such as New York and Chicago,
00:01:42.620 all manner of corruption and trouble had to be managed.
00:01:46.900 A challenging matter to keep the projects going on time and within budget.
00:01:51.580 Anyone who's ever undertaken a renovation of any magnitude knows how badly such things can spiral out of control
00:01:59.060 without diligent devotion of time and attention.
00:02:03.140 He managed, while doing so, to make himself quite famous.
00:02:07.400 Another feat that is by no means as simple as those who have never done it might imagine.
00:02:13.000 Somebody who was at the Michael Jackson concert in New York said,
00:02:18.600 when you were seated, you got the loudest applause.
00:02:21.820 People stood up and roared and cheered.
00:02:23.960 So maybe there was something to him on the diligence, attention and negotiation front
00:02:28.860 that belied his mere success as a celebrity.
00:02:32.280 After that, of course, he was co-producer and host of the reality shows
00:02:36.920 The Apprentice and The Celebrity Apprentice.
00:02:39.800 These were highly successful and for a long time,
00:02:43.700 particularly by legacy media TV standards,
00:02:46.720 running more than a decade from 2004 to 2015.
00:02:51.560 He's also the author of 19 books, collaborating with various ghostwriters,
00:02:56.420 and has been involved in a true variety of other business enterprises.
00:03:00.920 This history of entrepreneurial activity,
00:03:04.080 combined with his successful bids for attention,
00:03:06.780 speaks to two of President Trump's cardinal personality features.
00:03:11.060 He is extremely extroverted.
00:03:13.940 That is, both assertive and enthusiastic,
00:03:17.960 although more particularly the former rather than the latter.
00:03:22.180 And also at least relatively high in trait openness,
00:03:26.200 which is the single best predictor of entrepreneurial slash creative activity
00:03:30.980 and prowess after general intelligence.
00:03:33.900 This makes him high in the personality meta-trait of plasticity,
00:03:39.320 which is characterized primarily by the capacity to change, grow and transform.
00:03:46.780 Something quite evident in the case of Trump,
00:03:49.220 who is a very dynamic individual indeed, particularly given his age.
00:03:54.680 Many people have been set in concrete with regard to their essential being
00:03:59.740 by the time they're 30, not Trump.
00:04:04.160 He reinvents himself constantly,
00:04:06.720 and with a high degree of continual success.
00:04:10.700 That can happen by chance once, perhaps twice.
00:04:15.020 But if it is sustained across many decades,
00:04:18.360 there is something substantive and real at work.
00:04:21.380 I also followed the Donald with great amusement on Twitter
00:04:25.080 during his presidential run and afterward when he was in office,
00:04:29.720 before he was turfed so scandalously by the progressive good thinkers
00:04:34.200 who infested the platform,
00:04:36.320 and who must be commended on their arrogance,
00:04:39.240 presumption and sheer gall.
00:04:42.080 The man has a devastating and underappreciated,
00:04:45.560 at least by the legacy leaders of opinion,
00:04:48.040 and sense of humor, although it is also somewhat ruthless.
00:04:52.920 I own a very comical book,
00:04:54.800 The Collected Poems of Donald J. Trump,
00:04:57.720 available for purchase at the Daily Wire website, by the way,
00:05:01.540 which compiles his most memorable tweets and declarations
00:05:04.720 from 2009 to 2019
00:05:07.560 into beautiful library edition hardback form.
00:05:12.340 It is a ridiculously funny tome.
00:05:14.780 I believe that deeper consideration of this proclivity
00:05:18.600 for the viciously funny
00:05:19.920 is also useful in shedding more general light
00:05:23.240 on Trump's admittedly complex personality.
00:05:26.960 First, we should fairly note
00:05:29.740 that dictatorial types,
00:05:32.800 a category which his enemies insist he falls into,
00:05:36.000 are generally not known for their sense of humor.
00:05:39.680 People were imprisoned in the Stalinist Soviet Union
00:05:42.920 for being the first to stop applauding
00:05:45.180 after a speech by the great leader.
00:05:48.620 Criticism was absolutely out of the question
00:05:51.660 and certainly not forthcoming from the top.
00:05:55.360 I've also never encountered a commendium
00:05:57.640 of the witty and amusing things said by Adolf Hitler 0.97
00:06:01.520 or Fidel Castro or Chairman Mao.
00:06:05.760 Trump does have a surprisingly thin skin in some settings,
00:06:09.460 but he can take a joke as well as tell one.
00:06:13.440 He was roasted on Comedy Central in 2011,
00:06:17.220 bandied back and forth self-deprecatingly
00:06:19.860 several times with David Letterman.
00:06:22.680 He even made a joke about getting wood
00:06:24.760 during his presidential debate with Joe Biden.
00:06:27.840 And, you know, we knock on wood
00:06:29.600 wherever we may have wood
00:06:30.740 that I'm in very good health.
00:06:32.620 I just want...
00:06:33.240 I don't think he could help himself.
00:06:34.880 And I truly like that.
00:06:37.380 He's rough in his jokes,
00:06:39.540 but no more say than Bill Burr.
00:06:42.240 You can't hit women.
00:06:43.260 You can't.
00:06:43.700 You honestly cannot.
00:06:44.520 You ever see how they fall?
00:06:45.520 They fall like toddlers.
00:06:47.140 You know?
00:06:48.120 And is it not the case
00:06:49.500 that a certain degree of harshness
00:06:51.000 is necessary for serious comedy?
00:06:54.540 Understanding and appreciating this
00:06:56.400 helps us in comprehending
00:06:58.040 one of Trump's more remarkable features,
00:07:00.660 his serious attractiveness to the working class.
00:07:03.660 This is something particularly made evident
00:07:06.160 in his ability to easily banter
00:07:08.140 with soldiers and policemen,
00:07:10.340 a rare trait among politicians,
00:07:12.460 often made nervous
00:07:13.880 by the necessity of interacting
00:07:16.020 with real people
00:07:17.320 with dangerous and difficult jobs.
00:07:20.380 Let us not forget as well
00:07:22.040 that the humor characteristic
00:07:24.160 of working class men and women
00:07:25.800 also tends toward the rough
00:07:29.020 more deeply.
00:07:30.260 This capacity to relate
00:07:32.800 the variability that is so often derided
00:07:36.120 as an appeal
00:07:36.940 to a hypothetically dangerous populism
00:07:39.360 speaks to me
00:07:40.720 of the paradoxical presence
00:07:42.260 in Trump's character
00:07:43.340 of a substantive degree
00:07:44.980 of agreeableness,
00:07:46.540 the personality trait
00:07:47.860 most associated
00:07:49.020 with empathy for other people
00:07:51.100 and one that seriously mitigates
00:07:53.220 against the more pathological elements
00:07:55.500 of the narcissism
00:07:57.160 that can be associated
00:07:59.100 with extreme extroversion.
00:08:01.200 How can this be?
00:08:03.140 Given his rough
00:08:04.060 and sometimes even bullying humor,
00:08:07.080 well, agreeableness subdivides
00:08:09.300 into the aspects
00:08:10.420 of politeness and compassion.
00:08:13.340 Although they tend to co-vary,
00:08:15.760 else would not unite
00:08:17.040 to produce the trait,
00:08:18.700 people can somewhat rarely
00:08:20.000 be high in one
00:08:21.060 and low in the other.
00:08:22.680 This makes them somewhat
00:08:24.300 harder persons to understand,
00:08:26.060 but is something
00:08:27.200 that is nonetheless possible.
00:08:29.520 I believe that Donald J
00:08:31.260 is one of those people.
00:08:33.620 He is certainly not polite.
00:08:36.080 He knows how to behave.
00:08:38.040 So he's not merely unsocialized
00:08:40.140 or accidentally gauche,
00:08:41.720 but he frequently chooses not to.
00:08:44.800 This is part of what makes him so funny.
00:08:47.060 The aforementioned Bill Burr
00:08:48.900 is not polite.
00:08:50.280 Louis C.K. is not polite.
00:08:53.580 Tony Hinchcliffe
00:08:54.580 of current Kill Tony fame
00:08:56.540 is not polite.
00:08:58.780 Many comical people will say
00:09:00.380 anything that comes into their mind,
00:09:03.140 no matter what.
00:09:04.600 If it is either true
00:09:05.800 or funny
00:09:06.920 or optimally both,
00:09:09.660 Trump definitely falls into this camp.
00:09:12.120 It's just awfully good
00:09:13.300 that someone
00:09:13.980 with the temperament of Donald Trump
00:09:16.200 is not in charge
00:09:17.200 of the law in our country.
00:09:18.720 Because you'd be in jail.
00:09:20.600 Secretary Clinton.
00:09:23.520 It is clear
00:09:25.020 from the personality
00:09:26.100 and psychopathology literature
00:09:27.820 that people tilt towards narcissism
00:09:30.540 when they are extroverted
00:09:32.260 and disagreeable.
00:09:34.480 Trump is indisputably extroverted 0.91
00:09:36.700 and extremely so.
00:09:39.100 He's also definitely low in politeness,
00:09:42.340 but he simply would not be able
00:09:43.640 to make contact
00:09:44.460 with the so-called ordinary people
00:09:47.140 that love him
00:09:48.180 if he did not care
00:09:50.080 deep in the blackness of his heart.
00:09:53.760 I have a suspicion
00:09:55.000 that his very impoliteness
00:09:56.580 is at least in part
00:09:58.500 a mask
00:09:59.320 worn to shield him
00:10:00.980 from the pain
00:10:01.840 that such caring can produce.
00:10:04.060 This would make Trump
00:10:05.540 a man whose gruffness
00:10:07.040 is there
00:10:08.120 to shield himself
00:10:09.580 from the public exposure
00:10:11.560 of his tender heart.
00:10:13.060 There are many men
00:10:14.080 who are like that.
00:10:15.860 Now,
00:10:16.400 I don't know Trump
00:10:17.720 except from a distance,
00:10:20.220 but I know many people
00:10:21.740 who do.
00:10:22.900 All of them
00:10:23.680 have spoken to me
00:10:25.480 of his hospitable nature
00:10:27.260 in private
00:10:27.840 and of his proclivity
00:10:29.860 to go out of his way
00:10:31.080 for the people around him.
00:10:32.580 This group of witnesses
00:10:34.600 to his character
00:10:35.560 includes people
00:10:36.840 who are seriously
00:10:37.720 not aligned with him
00:10:38.840 politically,
00:10:39.480 by the way.
00:10:40.560 It is also by no means obvious
00:10:42.360 that Trump
00:10:43.040 kisses up 0.97
00:10:44.200 and kicks down.
00:10:46.700 That tendency
00:10:47.460 is a very damning sign
00:10:48.920 indeed,
00:10:49.860 particularly in someone
00:10:51.080 who has genuine power
00:10:52.480 and is simply
00:10:53.780 not reported of Trump.
00:10:56.200 This is something
00:10:57.200 that appears to stand
00:10:58.860 in marked comparison
00:11:00.240 to Kamala Harris,
00:11:01.780 who is notoriously
00:11:03.420 unpopular
00:11:04.300 among her staff,
00:11:05.900 current and former,
00:11:07.520 and for precisely
00:11:08.420 that reason.
00:11:10.240 Two personality traits
00:11:11.420 remain to assess
00:11:12.420 with regard
00:11:13.480 to the former president.
00:11:15.000 That of neuroticism,
00:11:17.020 the tendency
00:11:17.780 to experience
00:11:18.540 negative emotion,
00:11:19.740 and conscientiousness,
00:11:21.160 the tendency
00:11:21.700 to work hard
00:11:22.720 and diligently
00:11:23.480 and to formulate
00:11:24.820 and keep verbal contracts.
00:11:27.260 Neuroticism
00:11:28.020 subdivides
00:11:29.180 into withdrawal,
00:11:30.220 a depression-like
00:11:31.800 proclivity
00:11:32.400 to shrink,
00:11:33.500 avoid,
00:11:34.040 and freeze
00:11:34.800 in the face
00:11:35.460 of challenge,
00:11:36.540 and volatility,
00:11:38.280 a tendency
00:11:39.000 towards what can be
00:11:40.400 an aggressive
00:11:41.040 touchiness.
00:11:42.860 Trump appears to me
00:11:43.820 to be someone
00:11:44.420 who is very difficult
00:11:45.860 to stop.
00:11:47.640 Thus,
00:11:48.100 my suspicion
00:11:48.940 is that he is
00:11:49.700 very low
00:11:50.380 in withdrawal.
00:11:51.860 What may perhaps
00:11:53.000 add to the paradox
00:11:54.120 of his personality,
00:11:55.640 however,
00:11:56.180 is a higher level
00:11:57.540 of volatility.
00:11:58.700 People can
00:11:59.440 and do
00:12:00.440 get under his skin,
00:12:02.060 as Kamala Harris
00:12:03.120 did so effectively
00:12:04.240 in her debate
00:12:05.400 with him.
00:12:05.940 In Minnesota,
00:12:06.960 she went out.
00:12:07.720 Wait a minute.
00:12:08.120 I'm talking now,
00:12:09.660 if you don't mind.
00:12:10.480 Please.
00:12:11.800 Does that sound familiar?
00:12:14.700 She went out.
00:12:17.200 He gets reactive,
00:12:18.880 but he won't quit.
00:12:20.280 And he can handle
00:12:21.500 high levels of pressure
00:12:22.860 on a continual basis.
00:12:24.420 His spontaneous response
00:12:26.920 to being nearly assassinated
00:12:28.680 provided clear
00:12:30.100 and stellar evidence
00:12:31.500 of that.
00:12:33.640 What about
00:12:34.460 conscientiousness?
00:12:36.760 Well,
00:12:37.840 Trump famously
00:12:38.760 does not drink
00:12:40.120 or use
00:12:41.080 recreational drugs,
00:12:42.740 so he prioritizes
00:12:44.240 his sobriety
00:12:45.180 and alertness
00:12:45.900 over the transient
00:12:47.200 pleasures
00:12:47.800 of substance use.
00:12:49.260 I can honestly say
00:12:50.380 I never had a beer
00:12:51.260 in my life,
00:12:51.980 okay?
00:12:52.780 Right.
00:12:53.040 It's one of my
00:12:53.900 only good traits.
00:12:55.420 I don't drink.
00:12:56.780 I also cannot see
00:12:58.100 how he could juggle
00:12:59.100 all the activities
00:13:00.260 that he has been
00:13:01.020 involved in,
00:13:02.180 even the ghostwriting-aided
00:13:03.640 production of 19 books,
00:13:05.420 not a trivial accomplishment,
00:13:07.600 to say the least,
00:13:08.520 of all his other
00:13:09.420 businesses and projects,
00:13:11.540 without a true
00:13:12.340 work ethic.
00:13:13.860 He's up at 5.30 a.m.,
00:13:16.340 a sign of the
00:13:17.880 so-called
00:13:18.520 morningness,
00:13:20.240 the preference for early
00:13:21.460 rather than late hours,
00:13:22.720 which is associated
00:13:24.020 temperamentally
00:13:24.900 with both agreeableness
00:13:26.120 and conscientiousness.
00:13:28.360 Night owls
00:13:29.180 tend as well
00:13:30.020 to be more neurotic 0.85
00:13:31.460 and to display
00:13:32.380 more symptoms
00:13:33.080 of personality disorder. 0.97
00:13:35.320 Trump seems to be
00:13:36.420 active and working,
00:13:37.900 as well as
00:13:38.380 gathering information
00:13:39.580 about the state
00:13:40.480 of things from TV,
00:13:42.280 until about midnight
00:13:43.520 each day.
00:13:45.020 That's a long
00:13:45.780 day of movement.
00:13:47.100 He has a reputation
00:13:47.960 for being a veritable
00:13:49.260 whirlwind of activity,
00:13:50.600 in general,
00:13:52.160 a description
00:13:52.740 I find credible
00:13:54.200 given his strenuous
00:13:55.580 campaign schedule,
00:13:57.120 high openness
00:13:57.780 and extroversion,
00:13:59.000 and early morning
00:13:59.980 preference,
00:14:01.380 all despite his
00:14:02.360 relatively advanced age.
00:14:04.520 On the openness
00:14:05.320 side,
00:14:06.720 I suspect Trump
00:14:07.940 is more interested
00:14:08.720 in ideas
00:14:09.460 than aesthetics.
00:14:11.100 That is two aspects
00:14:12.600 into which openness
00:14:13.520 differentiates.
00:14:14.800 He's not an intellectual,
00:14:16.640 nor an artist,
00:14:17.640 so I wouldn't place
00:14:19.040 him in the upper
00:14:19.740 echelons of the
00:14:20.920 distribution of this
00:14:21.960 trait,
00:14:22.520 but no one
00:14:23.440 average or below
00:14:24.740 devotes any attention,
00:14:26.220 for example,
00:14:26.700 to writing books,
00:14:27.840 and the number of books
00:14:28.980 the typical person
00:14:30.040 has written
00:14:30.600 is zero.
00:14:32.720 The diversity
00:14:33.340 of his career
00:14:34.000 is another testament
00:14:34.980 to his trade
00:14:35.760 openness.
00:14:37.000 Trump is clearly
00:14:38.220 a serial entrepreneur
00:14:40.040 type,
00:14:40.940 and he's also
00:14:41.560 very interested
00:14:42.320 in the entertainment
00:14:43.180 world,
00:14:44.080 for better or worse.
00:14:45.720 that gives him
00:14:47.300 commonality
00:14:48.000 with those
00:14:48.560 who inhabit
00:14:49.080 the world
00:14:49.680 of the arts,
00:14:50.680 and is part
00:14:51.760 of what makes
00:14:52.380 him a very
00:14:53.080 strange Republican
00:14:54.300 indeed.
00:14:56.000 So,
00:14:56.720 why does Trump
00:14:57.860 set so many
00:14:58.760 people on edge?
00:15:00.200 To recapitulate,
00:15:01.660 he is exceptionally
00:15:02.640 extroverted,
00:15:03.880 particularly with regard
00:15:05.200 to the aspect
00:15:05.960 of assertiveness.
00:15:07.320 He's also low
00:15:08.200 in politeness.
00:15:09.640 Now,
00:15:09.840 that combination
00:15:10.480 has some overlap
00:15:12.100 with narcissism,
00:15:13.520 not surprising,
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00:16:29.960 However,
00:16:31.360 he is genuinely
00:16:32.820 compassionate,
00:16:34.080 really quite surprisingly so,
00:16:36.920 and appears on the basis
00:16:38.320 of his behavior
00:16:39.200 to be relatively
00:16:40.340 or perhaps even
00:16:41.720 markedly conscientious.
00:16:44.000 The presence of those
00:16:45.160 aspects and traits
00:16:46.260 mitigates against
00:16:47.760 what could otherwise
00:16:48.840 be the dangers
00:16:49.920 associated with narcissism.
00:16:52.540 We might also spend
00:16:53.600 some time
00:16:54.120 in regard to
00:16:55.200 Trump's personality,
00:16:56.440 considering his family
00:16:57.820 and the evidence
00:16:58.880 for the Donald's
00:16:59.840 fundamental reliability
00:17:01.140 and perhaps even goodness
00:17:02.900 that its high level
00:17:04.180 of function indicates
00:17:05.580 the Trump children
00:17:06.960 are a remarkably
00:17:08.280 scandal-free
00:17:09.500 and stable bunch, 0.89
00:17:11.500 certainly by the standards
00:17:13.080 set by,
00:17:14.600 say,
00:17:15.300 Hunter Biden.
00:17:17.160 Barron seems to
00:17:18.400 genuinely admire
00:17:19.400 his father.
00:17:20.600 Donald Jr.
00:17:21.340 has many of the same
00:17:22.700 personality traits
00:17:23.700 of his father,
00:17:24.680 for better or worse,
00:17:25.840 but he has also
00:17:26.760 remained free
00:17:27.700 of the taint
00:17:28.500 of narcissistic
00:17:29.580 privilege and power.
00:17:31.700 Jared Kushner
00:17:32.500 married into the family,
00:17:34.300 but has certainly
00:17:34.920 done it credit,
00:17:36.040 not least on the
00:17:37.000 Abraham Accord front.
00:17:39.000 Trump's beautiful
00:17:39.780 and elegant wife, 0.98
00:17:40.800 Melania,
00:17:41.520 keeps her own counsel
00:17:42.680 and is admirable
00:17:43.840 in so doing.
00:17:45.580 She does not appear
00:17:46.640 to think that she could
00:17:47.800 or should run the country
00:17:49.020 merely because she is
00:17:50.560 married to the man
00:17:51.580 who does,
00:17:52.840 in marked contrast,
00:17:54.460 say,
00:17:54.900 to Hillary Clinton.
00:17:56.800 This familial honesty
00:17:58.420 and reliability
00:17:59.140 is particularly telling.
00:18:01.020 In the case of
00:18:01.780 the Trump family,
00:18:03.180 given that the
00:18:03.860 almost universally
00:18:05.040 Democrat-biased
00:18:06.420 legacy media
00:18:07.460 and its
00:18:08.180 propagandistic agents
00:18:10.020 would be thrilled
00:18:11.200 to trumpet
00:18:11.820 any possible misstep
00:18:13.560 on behalf of those
00:18:14.740 near the former
00:18:15.440 president
00:18:16.020 to the skies.
00:18:18.180 Where there is smoke,
00:18:20.060 there is fire,
00:18:21.500 or so goes the cliché.
00:18:23.480 This is sometimes,
00:18:25.100 but not always,
00:18:26.480 true.
00:18:27.300 The converse
00:18:28.180 may be something
00:18:28.980 more reliable.
00:18:30.180 Where there is
00:18:30.740 absolutely no smoke,
00:18:32.860 even though
00:18:34.200 many hawke-eyed 0.51
00:18:35.400 observers
00:18:35.940 are not only
00:18:36.760 watching,
00:18:37.560 but wishing
00:18:38.280 for it to appear.
00:18:40.320 There is perhaps
00:18:41.020 truly no fire.
00:18:43.080 Zero scandal
00:18:44.180 within the Trump family
00:18:46.140 is reminiscent,
00:18:47.220 for me,
00:18:48.080 of the
00:18:48.700 zero wars
00:18:50.500 of the Trump presidency.
00:18:52.580 It's something easy
00:18:53.540 to take for granted,
00:18:54.920 given its too easily
00:18:56.420 invisible non-existence,
00:18:58.420 as it's hard
00:18:59.060 to be grateful
00:18:59.740 for a problem
00:19:00.520 you just don't have.
00:19:02.300 But it is a relief.
00:19:03.540 And another indication
00:19:05.080 that the bombastic
00:19:06.680 Donald J
00:19:07.760 has at least
00:19:09.320 properly ruled
00:19:10.340 his own roost.
00:19:12.120 This is also
00:19:13.060 no easy matter,
00:19:14.360 as we have seen
00:19:15.460 in the appalling
00:19:16.540 family scandals
00:19:17.700 of the Biden White House,
00:19:19.200 and is another fact
00:19:20.760 mitigating against
00:19:22.260 the claim
00:19:22.760 that President Trump
00:19:23.800 is a danger
00:19:24.740 on the temperamental front.
00:19:26.520 We should address
00:19:28.120 one other relevant
00:19:29.360 clinical personality issue
00:19:31.160 following our analysis
00:19:32.700 of personality,
00:19:33.940 not least through family.
00:19:36.100 Consider,
00:19:37.240 before we do so,
00:19:39.000 that there exist
00:19:39.860 two primary influences
00:19:42.120 on behavior,
00:19:43.580 personality
00:19:44.000 and the habit
00:19:44.980 it constitutes,
00:19:46.720 and the specifics
00:19:47.840 of the situation
00:19:48.960 in question.
00:19:50.460 It turns out
00:19:51.420 that knowledge
00:19:51.960 of the former
00:19:52.840 personality
00:19:53.960 is clearly
00:19:55.400 less useful
00:19:56.480 than knowledge
00:19:57.120 of the second
00:19:57.980 situation
00:19:59.060 or context
00:20:00.100 when it comes
00:20:01.080 to the specific
00:20:01.960 and demanding task
00:20:03.300 of predicting
00:20:04.380 someone's behavior,
00:20:05.840 current or future.
00:20:07.800 Why?
00:20:09.120 Not least
00:20:10.000 because psychologically
00:20:11.020 healthy persons
00:20:12.100 are flexible,
00:20:13.680 adapting themselves
00:20:14.580 to the specific demands
00:20:15.980 of the current environment
00:20:17.100 despite their
00:20:18.360 trait proclivities.
00:20:19.740 Even extroverts
00:20:20.460 are likely to be quiet,
00:20:21.840 at least when they
00:20:22.700 have been well socialized
00:20:24.080 at a funeral.
00:20:25.820 In fact,
00:20:26.620 there is often
00:20:27.280 something seriously wrong
00:20:28.960 with those who lack
00:20:30.440 such situational flexibility,
00:20:32.860 although strength
00:20:33.660 of character
00:20:34.200 with regard to honesty
00:20:35.460 constitutes
00:20:36.280 a marked exception.
00:20:38.020 The psychopathologies
00:20:39.240 known as
00:20:39.940 personality disorders,
00:20:42.220 which constitute
00:20:43.140 a very serious source
00:20:44.620 of suffering
00:20:45.360 and social conflict,
00:20:47.540 are in fact
00:20:48.240 precisely what emerge
00:20:49.520 when someone
00:20:50.620 is too rigid
00:20:51.360 to change
00:20:52.240 with the social demands
00:20:53.580 of the moment.
00:20:54.900 This all means
00:20:55.880 that it is most useful
00:20:57.380 to gather evidence
00:20:59.020 about how someone
00:20:59.840 has acted in the past
00:21:01.320 in a given situation
00:21:03.060 if the goal
00:21:04.180 is prediction
00:21:04.720 of their behavior
00:21:05.520 when placed
00:21:06.380 in that situation
00:21:07.480 once again
00:21:08.880 in the future.
00:21:10.740 We have that evidence
00:21:11.960 already at hand
00:21:12.880 in the case of Trump.
00:21:14.220 This means that
00:21:14.980 we don't have to rely
00:21:16.020 on our observations
00:21:16.940 of his personality
00:21:17.940 for predicting
00:21:18.800 his behavior,
00:21:19.960 even if they are
00:21:20.820 well-founded,
00:21:21.940 compelling,
00:21:22.860 or even professional.
00:21:24.260 The man has already
00:21:25.140 been president.
00:21:26.920 And for four years,
00:21:29.420 what did we learn?
00:21:31.720 First and foremost,
00:21:35.020 the time during
00:21:36.300 Trump's tenure
00:21:37.060 was peaceful,
00:21:39.800 particularly on
00:21:40.600 the international front.
00:21:41.740 The importance
00:21:42.740 of that non-problem,
00:21:45.000 really an accomplishment,
00:21:46.460 can hardly be overstated.
00:21:49.380 War in the nuclear age 0.83
00:21:50.920 is infinitely dangerous.
00:21:53.280 Had Trump been
00:21:54.140 the dictator
00:21:54.980 in waiting
00:21:55.560 his foes so loudly
00:21:57.240 and fearfully
00:21:58.180 presume him to be,
00:21:59.880 wouldn't some evidence
00:22:01.060 of that
00:22:01.600 have made itself manifest,
00:22:03.740 say,
00:22:04.840 on the battlefield? 0.64
00:22:06.700 The typical narcissist,
00:22:09.680 particularly the more 0.94
00:22:10.940 malignant, 0.66
00:22:11.980 sadistic, 0.80
00:22:12.800 Machiavellian types,
00:22:14.060 have absolutely
00:22:16.120 no qualms
00:22:17.020 about sacrificing
00:22:18.060 others to their
00:22:19.360 imperial ambitions.
00:22:21.080 Indeed,
00:22:21.700 they may well regard it
00:22:22.880 as a great honor
00:22:23.900 for others to die
00:22:25.400 in service of their
00:22:26.680 own glorification.
00:22:28.640 Trump,
00:22:29.560 by marked contrast,
00:22:32.020 embroiled the U.S.,
00:22:33.260 the most powerful
00:22:34.380 military force
00:22:35.480 the world has ever seen,
00:22:37.580 in precisely
00:22:38.640 zero wars.
00:22:42.000 Zero is a very low number.
00:22:43.600 furthermore,
00:22:46.940 he negotiated
00:22:47.680 the Abraham Accords,
00:22:49.280 the nine miraculous
00:22:50.360 peace agreements
00:22:51.220 that have built
00:22:52.380 around Israel
00:22:53.240 a cohort of,
00:22:54.620 if not exactly
00:22:55.680 Arab allies,
00:22:57.160 at least not
00:22:58.100 outright enemies.
00:22:59.660 In a just world,
00:23:01.760 Trump and his
00:23:02.440 previous team
00:23:03.200 of diplomats
00:23:04.080 should have been
00:23:05.360 awarded the Nobel
00:23:06.300 Peace Prize
00:23:06.980 for this accomplishment,
00:23:08.280 which was deemed
00:23:08.980 impossible
00:23:10.180 by the experts
00:23:11.600 decade after decade
00:23:13.220 of the State Department.
00:23:15.580 It is of significant
00:23:16.980 note, too,
00:23:18.180 that these accords
00:23:19.100 have held
00:23:19.580 even after the events
00:23:21.020 of October 7,
00:23:22.320 2023,
00:23:23.620 and all the work
00:23:24.860 that has been done,
00:23:26.340 mostly by the truly
00:23:27.600 pathological actors
00:23:28.800 of the Islamic Republic,
00:23:30.280 to set the Muslim 1.00
00:23:32.200 and, indeed,
00:23:33.320 the broader world
00:23:34.220 yet again
00:23:35.240 against the Jews. 0.59
00:23:37.540 Let us reiterate
00:23:38.520 in relation
00:23:39.280 to our analysis.
00:23:40.580 We understand
00:23:42.060 his personality,
00:23:43.520 arguably,
00:23:44.360 and may even have
00:23:45.380 some remaining
00:23:46.100 qualms about it.
00:23:47.700 However,
00:23:48.200 Donald J. Trump
00:23:48.980 has already been
00:23:49.760 president,
00:23:50.880 and his tenure
00:23:51.920 was marked
00:23:52.680 by an absolute
00:23:54.320 lack of
00:23:55.180 cataclysmic
00:23:56.000 occurrences.
00:23:57.060 We can therefore
00:23:57.920 reliably rest
00:23:59.160 assured
00:23:59.720 on that front.
00:24:01.780 It might also
00:24:03.340 be noted here
00:24:04.220 that his
00:24:04.680 impolite
00:24:05.600 assertiveness
00:24:06.360 and proclivity
00:24:07.480 not to withdraw
00:24:08.640 in fear
00:24:09.300 or dismay
00:24:10.100 might be
00:24:11.060 a real strength
00:24:11.920 when dealing
00:24:12.440 with dictators,
00:24:13.680 particularly in
00:24:14.520 combination
00:24:14.920 with his openness,
00:24:16.400 which makes him
00:24:17.040 able to think
00:24:17.960 outside the box
00:24:19.220 and to bring
00:24:20.120 to the negotiating
00:24:20.960 table the advantage
00:24:22.240 of unpredictability.
00:24:24.360 Furthermore,
00:24:25.880 Trump's time
00:24:26.460 as president
00:24:27.080 was also marked
00:24:28.700 by a not
00:24:29.360 inconsiderable
00:24:30.400 domestic economic
00:24:31.600 record,
00:24:32.580 with the arguably
00:24:33.940 marked exception
00:24:35.120 of debt
00:24:36.060 accumulation.
00:24:36.820 at least decent
00:24:38.720 economic performance
00:24:40.180 and peace.
00:24:42.800 The fact of
00:24:43.520 these twin facts
00:24:44.480 has put many
00:24:45.160 of the various
00:24:45.760 concerns I once
00:24:46.980 had about
00:24:47.460 Trump's personality
00:24:48.440 to rest,
00:24:50.020 as has my now
00:24:51.080 more sophisticated
00:24:51.940 appreciation for
00:24:53.480 his particularized
00:24:54.720 and unique
00:24:55.240 combination of
00:24:56.180 traits.
00:24:57.020 The events that
00:24:57.780 have surrounded
00:24:58.340 him as of late
00:24:59.160 have done even
00:24:59.740 more in that
00:25:00.360 regard.
00:25:01.420 Why?
00:25:02.500 Well,
00:25:03.620 the Republican
00:25:04.600 candidate has
00:25:05.500 now attracted
00:25:06.320 a truly
00:25:06.920 remarkable,
00:25:08.160 surprising,
00:25:09.340 and stellar
00:25:10.460 group of
00:25:11.120 compatriots
00:25:11.780 around him,
00:25:12.680 all highly
00:25:13.900 accomplished
00:25:14.500 and formidable
00:25:15.200 figures,
00:25:16.100 each with their
00:25:16.920 own marked
00:25:17.720 eccentricities.
00:25:19.600 This is also
00:25:20.500 not something
00:25:21.160 that is likely
00:25:21.800 to occur
00:25:22.480 when someone
00:25:23.660 pathologically
00:25:24.820 narcissistic
00:25:25.940 is running
00:25:27.020 the show.
00:25:27.980 That group
00:25:28.820 includes
00:25:29.400 Elon Musk,
00:25:30.740 Tony Stark
00:25:31.580 genius,
00:25:32.480 billionaire,
00:25:33.180 playboy,
00:25:33.840 philanthropist,
00:25:34.580 Robert F.
00:25:35.860 Kennedy,
00:25:36.600 charismatic,
00:25:37.480 eccentric,
00:25:38.080 and intimidating, 0.95
00:25:39.200 Tulsi Gabbard,
00:25:40.520 who is in truth
00:25:41.760 everything that
00:25:42.680 Kamala Harris
00:25:43.480 plays at being,
00:25:45.500 Vivek Ramaswamy,
00:25:47.040 smart,
00:25:47.960 self-promoting,
00:25:48.960 creative,
00:25:49.940 witty,
00:25:50.320 articulate,
00:25:51.280 young,
00:25:52.220 entrepreneurial,
00:25:53.360 and fast on his
00:25:54.240 feet,
00:25:54.700 as well as
00:25:55.420 J.D. Vance,
00:25:56.720 the hillbilly,
00:25:57.920 who pulled himself
00:25:59.000 out of the
00:25:59.560 Appalachians by
00:26:00.700 his bootstraps
00:26:01.820 and who would
00:26:02.980 in sane times
00:26:04.600 be a veritable
00:26:05.820 poster boy
00:26:06.600 for the hypothetically
00:26:07.980 support the poor
00:26:09.280 and working class
00:26:10.320 left.
00:26:11.340 I have been joking
00:26:12.140 to myself
00:26:12.800 and some others
00:26:13.820 in my circle
00:26:14.580 that the X-Men
00:26:16.220 have now arrived
00:26:17.800 in reality
00:26:18.640 to rescue
00:26:19.600 the Republic.
00:26:20.640 This is a transformation
00:26:21.820 that has not yet
00:26:23.080 been fully noted
00:26:24.120 even by the
00:26:25.440 Trump campaign
00:26:26.160 itself
00:26:26.740 despite its
00:26:28.220 truly
00:26:28.780 and surreally
00:26:30.340 revolutionary
00:26:31.460 nature.
00:26:32.820 First and foremost
00:26:33.700 among these new
00:26:34.500 supporters and
00:26:35.200 colleagues of the
00:26:35.920 former president
00:26:36.700 is Elon Musk.
00:26:39.560 He truly is
00:26:40.840 and so comically
00:26:42.600 an X-Man
00:26:44.340 as is starkly
00:26:46.020 evidenced
00:26:46.660 by the new name
00:26:47.900 of the controversial
00:26:48.880 social media platform
00:26:50.360 he now owns
00:26:51.380 and was once
00:26:52.520 known as Twitter.
00:26:53.980 He has been
00:26:54.700 struggling to build
00:26:55.760 X,
00:26:56.820 the everything
00:26:57.540 platform,
00:26:58.240 for decades
00:26:59.280 with that
00:26:59.920 particular moniker
00:27:00.860 in his mind
00:27:01.540 the whole time.
00:27:03.060 The X-Men
00:27:03.920 like the Avengers
00:27:05.500 was a group 0.98
00:27:06.820 of misfit 0.95
00:27:07.780 mutants
00:27:08.620 who came together
00:27:09.900 to save the
00:27:10.800 normies
00:27:11.300 from the various
00:27:12.080 monsters of the
00:27:13.100 world.
00:27:14.180 It is frequently
00:27:14.880 the case that
00:27:15.680 life imitates
00:27:16.680 art
00:27:17.140 and there were
00:27:18.160 perhaps real
00:27:19.100 reasons stirring
00:27:20.500 in the collective
00:27:21.740 unconscious of
00:27:22.680 the West
00:27:23.180 inclining us
00:27:24.380 to look
00:27:24.840 toward the
00:27:25.860 eccentric
00:27:26.380 and super
00:27:27.200 normal
00:27:27.680 for our
00:27:28.740 salvation.
00:27:30.000 Fiction meets
00:27:30.740 reality in the
00:27:31.900 strangest of
00:27:32.820 ways.
00:27:33.660 In any case,
00:27:34.860 Trump is now
00:27:36.180 playing Charles
00:27:37.100 Xavier to a 0.95
00:27:38.520 strange group
00:27:39.440 of mutants
00:27:40.240 or if the
00:27:41.700 similar metaphor
00:27:42.640 of the Avengers
00:27:43.560 is more
00:27:44.560 attractive
00:27:45.100 conceptually,
00:27:46.920 Captain America
00:27:47.860 to the gods
00:27:49.280 and superheroes.
00:27:50.220 Let us assess
00:27:51.720 this group
00:27:52.360 of remarkable
00:27:52.980 people
00:27:53.460 psychologically
00:27:54.280 one by one.
00:27:56.580 I am in fact
00:27:57.400 in a better
00:27:57.840 position to do
00:27:59.060 just that
00:27:59.920 with them
00:28:00.680 than I was
00:28:01.580 in the case
00:28:02.080 of Trump
00:28:02.560 as I have
00:28:03.400 personally met
00:28:04.140 Musk and
00:28:04.920 the other
00:28:05.400 group members
00:28:06.120 several times
00:28:06.900 with the
00:28:07.540 exception of
00:28:08.220 VP candidate
00:28:09.080 Vance
00:28:09.660 with whom a
00:28:10.520 podcast is
00:28:11.340 currently being
00:28:12.200 scheduled.
00:28:13.140 Let's begin
00:28:13.940 our analysis
00:28:14.600 with Mr.
00:28:15.600 Elon Musk,
00:28:16.780 the Tony Stark
00:28:17.900 billionaire,
00:28:18.860 although
00:28:19.200 importantly
00:28:20.120 without the
00:28:21.320 arms dealing.
00:28:22.920 Before diving
00:28:23.740 in, however,
00:28:25.300 one final
00:28:26.140 important fact
00:28:27.240 should be noted
00:28:28.320 pertaining to
00:28:29.480 the former
00:28:29.940 president.
00:28:31.080 The Donald
00:28:31.540 is evidently
00:28:32.360 willing to
00:28:32.860 share the
00:28:33.480 spotlight with
00:28:34.480 Musk and
00:28:35.980 apparently
00:28:36.860 to listen
00:28:38.080 to what the
00:28:39.180 eccentric but
00:28:40.100 stunningly
00:28:41.080 capable and
00:28:41.760 clearly genius
00:28:42.920 level intellect
00:28:43.900 former South
00:28:45.020 African has 0.96
00:28:46.300 to say. 1.00
00:28:47.420 A cynic
00:28:47.880 might opine
00:28:48.520 that the
00:28:48.900 former
00:28:49.160 president is
00:28:49.980 merely
00:28:50.300 capitalizing
00:28:51.120 on the
00:28:51.740 additional
00:28:52.160 attention his
00:28:52.940 dalliance with
00:28:53.700 Musk might 0.99
00:28:54.300 bring him.
00:28:55.160 I would
00:28:55.560 object,
00:28:56.500 however,
00:28:56.940 as a
00:28:57.340 clinician,
00:28:58.600 on twin
00:28:59.440 grounds.
00:29:00.380 First,
00:29:01.260 if Trump
00:29:01.760 truly were 0.65
00:29:02.420 narcissistic,
00:29:03.960 Musk might 0.99
00:29:04.520 be the
00:29:05.000 last person
00:29:05.980 with whom
00:29:06.680 he would
00:29:07.120 deli.
00:29:07.980 The latter,
00:29:09.040 Musk,
00:29:09.820 rivals or
00:29:11.120 exceeds him
00:29:12.080 in fame and
00:29:12.980 power and
00:29:14.060 definitely
00:29:14.680 surpasses him
00:29:15.620 in sheer
00:29:16.000 genius.
00:29:16.560 that is
00:29:17.380 not a
00:29:17.820 situation
00:29:18.420 that a
00:29:19.140 truly
00:29:19.420 self-centered
00:29:20.340 and power 0.99
00:29:20.920 mad dictator 0.76
00:29:21.860 in waiting
00:29:22.420 is likely
00:29:23.580 to appreciate.
00:29:25.300 Second,
00:29:26.160 with regard
00:29:26.800 to garnering
00:29:27.520 attention,
00:29:28.620 the genuine
00:29:29.140 narcissist is
00:29:30.100 someone unlikely
00:29:31.080 to believe
00:29:31.660 that anyone
00:29:32.580 else is
00:29:33.740 likely to
00:29:34.180 bring anything
00:29:34.680 of value
00:29:35.300 to the
00:29:35.880 table,
00:29:36.640 not already
00:29:37.780 in display
00:29:38.600 in consequence
00:29:39.280 of their
00:29:39.800 own boundless
00:29:40.920 and singular
00:29:41.740 specialness.
00:29:43.480 On to
00:29:43.940 Elon himself.
00:29:45.360 First and
00:29:45.980 foremost,
00:29:46.640 the world's
00:29:47.140 premier
00:29:47.700 engineer and
00:29:48.800 inventor is
00:29:50.080 a man
00:29:50.580 clearly and
00:29:51.400 demonstrably
00:29:52.160 capable of
00:29:52.900 doing six
00:29:53.880 impossible
00:29:54.920 things at
00:29:56.380 the same
00:29:56.880 time.
00:29:57.620 This speaks
00:29:58.400 primarily of
00:29:59.260 his intelligence.
00:30:00.440 Musk is 0.98
00:30:00.900 exceptionally
00:30:01.820 one in a
00:30:02.980 billion high
00:30:03.900 in general
00:30:04.480 cognitive ability
00:30:05.560 and openness,
00:30:06.980 a true
00:30:07.420 genius,
00:30:08.400 albeit in
00:30:09.240 the technical
00:30:09.800 manner.
00:30:10.620 That is an
00:30:11.360 observation,
00:30:12.080 not a
00:30:12.360 criticism.
00:30:13.340 With regard
00:30:14.040 to personality,
00:30:15.260 he's not
00:30:15.820 particularly
00:30:16.620 extroverted,
00:30:18.000 tilting,
00:30:18.680 I would say,
00:30:19.300 in the opposite
00:30:19.960 direction,
00:30:20.680 although not
00:30:21.220 exceptionally so.
00:30:22.720 He is moderate
00:30:23.760 in neuroticism,
00:30:25.580 carrying a
00:30:26.540 fair burden
00:30:27.180 of depression-like
00:30:28.260 pain with him,
00:30:29.480 not least because
00:30:30.400 of a truly
00:30:31.000 rough childhood,
00:30:32.360 which he
00:30:32.780 alludes to,
00:30:33.640 but does not
00:30:34.640 make a show
00:30:35.480 of.
00:30:36.220 There is some
00:30:37.200 withdrawal there,
00:30:38.560 run rough
00:30:39.320 shod over
00:30:40.220 by his
00:30:40.760 brilliance
00:30:41.240 and openness
00:30:41.840 and also
00:30:42.740 some volatility
00:30:43.600 evidenced in
00:30:44.860 his behavior
00:30:45.500 on X
00:30:46.200 online.
00:30:47.720 Somewhat
00:30:48.360 reminiscent of
00:30:49.200 Trump himself,
00:30:50.600 Musk is 0.98
00:30:51.400 also a
00:30:51.980 worker and
00:30:52.680 manager,
00:30:53.860 hard and
00:30:54.540 dedicated,
00:30:55.460 far beyond
00:30:56.200 the norm,
00:30:57.160 so exceptionally
00:30:58.540 high in
00:30:59.100 conscientiousness
00:31:00.100 and agreeable
00:31:01.360 enough,
00:31:02.280 particularly on
00:31:03.040 the compassionate
00:31:03.660 side,
00:31:04.340 to be very
00:31:05.300 pro-human.
00:31:07.000 He is,
00:31:07.500 however,
00:31:07.800 no pushover
00:31:08.760 is not
00:31:09.660 particularly
00:31:10.180 polite and
00:31:11.320 can and
00:31:12.240 does make
00:31:13.260 the difficult
00:31:13.900 judgments of
00:31:14.680 discrimination
00:31:15.460 that allow him
00:31:16.720 to continually
00:31:17.440 operate and
00:31:18.720 maintain multiple,
00:31:20.660 extremely large,
00:31:22.340 demanding,
00:31:23.620 stunningly diverse
00:31:25.000 and truly
00:31:26.000 cutting-edge
00:31:26.620 enterprises.
00:31:27.820 His staggering
00:31:28.920 intelligence and
00:31:29.980 business acumen
00:31:31.020 means that he
00:31:32.220 brings something
00:31:33.140 near miraculous
00:31:34.440 to the Trump
00:31:35.680 X-Men
00:31:36.640 team.
00:31:37.880 I would vote
00:31:38.600 for Trump
00:31:39.240 as president
00:31:40.060 if I could
00:31:41.060 vote and
00:31:41.880 I can't
00:31:42.500 because I'm
00:31:43.260 Canadian and
00:31:44.020 forgive me
00:31:44.920 for that.
00:31:45.940 Just because
00:31:46.740 Musk has 0.97
00:31:47.320 agreed to
00:31:47.760 play a role
00:31:48.340 in any new
00:31:48.900 administration
00:31:49.540 that Trump
00:31:50.040 might bring
00:31:50.540 about.
00:31:51.280 He has even
00:31:51.820 wittily proposed
00:31:53.140 to head up a
00:31:54.280 new Department
00:31:55.100 of Governmental
00:31:56.040 Efficiency,
00:31:57.380 a phrase
00:31:58.060 whose initials
00:31:59.720 D-O-G-E 1.00
00:32:01.120 indicate the
00:32:02.320 willingness in
00:32:03.160 an inside joke
00:32:04.300 manner to do
00:32:05.560 only good
00:32:06.620 every day,
00:32:08.080 as well as
00:32:08.680 signifying a
00:32:09.500 bemused but
00:32:10.400 knowing dog
00:32:11.240 whose image
00:32:12.160 has become a
00:32:12.920 widespread meme.
00:32:14.360 It has been
00:32:15.080 my diligent
00:32:15.880 and hopeful
00:32:16.620 observation that
00:32:17.720 Musk is a 0.94
00:32:18.800 good man,
00:32:20.000 or at least
00:32:20.640 a terrible,
00:32:21.700 complicated man
00:32:22.700 trying very hard
00:32:24.320 to be good,
00:32:25.520 which is all
00:32:26.080 we could truly
00:32:26.780 hope if we
00:32:27.520 were the least
00:32:28.060 bit realistic
00:32:28.880 about human
00:32:29.600 nature and
00:32:30.640 our own
00:32:31.280 prospects.
00:32:32.420 Have you
00:32:32.620 heard of
00:32:33.020 anything more
00:32:33.560 chilling than
00:32:34.220 frozen beef?
00:32:36.400 Until November
00:32:37.080 3rd, get an
00:32:37.820 always fresh,
00:32:38.620 never frozen
00:32:39.220 Dave Single
00:32:39.820 from Wendy's
00:32:40.440 for only $4.
00:32:41.820 Nothing scary
00:32:42.660 about that.
00:32:43.520 Taxes extra
00:32:44.100 participating
00:32:44.700 Wendy's until
00:32:45.240 November 3rd.
00:32:45.920 Terms and
00:32:46.280 conditions apply.
00:32:47.860 Could Musk
00:32:48.360 do to the
00:32:48.840 American deep
00:32:49.580 state what
00:32:50.780 he did for
00:32:51.280 Twitter?
00:32:52.180 Could he
00:32:52.680 prune and
00:32:53.800 cut so the
00:32:55.360 republic could
00:32:55.960 revitalize?
00:32:57.420 Stranger things
00:32:58.180 have happened
00:32:58.800 in the course
00:32:59.340 of human
00:32:59.720 history.
00:33:00.660 Javier 0.93
00:33:01.060 Millay is
00:33:01.940 trying something
00:33:02.800 similarly
00:33:03.540 demanding in
00:33:04.600 Argentina.
00:33:05.840 And the
00:33:06.260 U.S. of A.
00:33:07.600 has a remarkable
00:33:08.460 capacity to
00:33:09.440 reinvent itself.
00:33:10.980 Someone like
00:33:11.720 Musk playing
00:33:13.160 a key role in
00:33:14.760 the governance of
00:33:15.820 the greatest show
00:33:16.740 on earth is a
00:33:18.180 once-in-a-lifetime
00:33:19.240 opportunity.
00:33:20.440 That's an adventure
00:33:21.460 by anyone's
00:33:22.400 standards.
00:33:23.380 I have met with
00:33:24.400 the next member of
00:33:25.320 this group in
00:33:26.100 question, Mr.
00:33:27.460 Robert F.
00:33:28.060 Kennedy, five
00:33:29.240 times, speaking
00:33:30.700 with and listening
00:33:31.680 to him at some
00:33:32.560 length each time.
00:33:34.560 He has the
00:33:35.540 near manic
00:33:36.320 energy and
00:33:37.240 loquaciousness of
00:33:38.380 those with
00:33:38.880 exceptional verbal
00:33:40.060 intelligence and
00:33:41.320 the intensely
00:33:42.160 focused concentration
00:33:43.740 that pushes people
00:33:45.400 who have that
00:33:46.340 proclivity beyond
00:33:47.560 even their own
00:33:48.360 limits in pursuit
00:33:49.760 of a goal.
00:33:50.360 He's dreadfully
00:33:51.540 well-informed,
00:33:52.820 a veritable
00:33:53.320 master of
00:33:54.260 historical minutiae
00:33:55.900 in a manner
00:33:56.820 nonetheless relevant
00:33:58.280 to today's
00:33:59.720 concerns.
00:34:00.840 He is also
00:34:01.540 someone who,
00:34:02.540 like Trump and
00:34:03.200 Musk,
00:34:03.900 can and does
00:34:04.700 draw the overall
00:34:06.280 picture accurately
00:34:07.380 and even in a
00:34:08.660 somewhat prophetic
00:34:09.640 manner.
00:34:10.800 He is fearless
00:34:11.480 and dedicated,
00:34:12.780 having stood up
00:34:13.700 and successfully
00:34:14.840 against even
00:34:16.120 the largest
00:34:16.960 giants of the
00:34:18.240 proto-fascist 0.95
00:34:19.320 modern state,
00:34:20.360 and has
00:34:21.280 single-handedly
00:34:22.180 drawn public
00:34:22.980 attention to
00:34:24.240 what is
00:34:24.900 genuinely a
00:34:26.060 health crisis
00:34:26.800 of gargantuan
00:34:27.960 proportions,
00:34:29.060 despite its
00:34:29.960 invisibility on
00:34:31.000 the political
00:34:31.500 stage until
00:34:32.940 the current
00:34:33.480 time.
00:34:34.480 He's also
00:34:35.120 someone once
00:34:37.400 bitten,
00:34:38.640 twice shy,
00:34:40.220 a seriously
00:34:40.940 wounded apostate,
00:34:42.660 again like
00:34:43.560 Trump and
00:34:44.120 Musk as well
00:34:44.860 as Tulsi
00:34:45.680 Gabbard,
00:34:46.420 from his
00:34:46.940 own original
00:34:47.980 favored party,
00:34:49.240 the Democrats.
00:34:51.460 When I first
00:34:52.240 spoke with
00:34:52.760 Mr. Kennedy
00:34:53.480 on my
00:34:54.360 YouTube channel,
00:34:55.480 I asked him
00:34:56.240 the same
00:34:56.660 question I
00:34:57.280 always ask
00:34:57.840 the many
00:34:58.280 Democrat
00:34:58.760 leaders I
00:34:59.460 have spoken
00:34:59.960 with,
00:35:00.580 most privately,
00:35:02.280 unwilling as
00:35:02.980 they generally
00:35:03.620 are to risk
00:35:04.380 being seen
00:35:05.000 in public
00:35:05.540 with the
00:35:06.320 likes of
00:35:06.860 me.
00:35:07.780 The question,
00:35:08.620 when do you
00:35:09.200 think the
00:35:09.660 left goes
00:35:10.200 too far?
00:35:11.400 His answer
00:35:11.920 to that,
00:35:12.620 in interview
00:35:13.120 one,
00:35:14.040 at the very
00:35:14.520 beginning of
00:35:15.060 his presidential
00:35:15.700 march?
00:35:16.180 I'm trying
00:35:16.900 to run
00:35:17.480 a campaign
00:35:17.960 that brings
00:35:18.820 people together
00:35:19.620 rather than
00:35:20.400 a campaign
00:35:21.040 that is based
00:35:23.020 upon that
00:35:24.120 kind of
00:35:24.480 tribalism of
00:35:25.560 condemning
00:35:26.160 people for
00:35:26.840 ideologies that
00:35:28.040 I don't
00:35:28.300 necessarily agree
00:35:29.320 with.
00:35:30.240 I had my
00:35:31.420 doubts about
00:35:32.080 the suitability
00:35:32.800 of that answer
00:35:33.660 in the long
00:35:34.720 run,
00:35:35.620 having experienced
00:35:36.860 precisely what
00:35:38.180 happens when
00:35:38.840 the left goes
00:35:39.740 too far in
00:35:41.080 my own private
00:35:41.920 and personal
00:35:42.560 life.
00:35:43.460 Nonetheless,
00:35:43.780 on that
00:35:44.720 occasion,
00:35:46.120 I let the
00:35:47.060 question lie.
00:35:48.500 I can tell
00:35:49.000 you,
00:35:49.260 however,
00:35:49.600 that Mr.
00:35:50.100 Kennedy had
00:35:50.680 plenty to
00:35:51.280 say on
00:35:51.680 that topic
00:35:52.480 when we
00:35:53.220 spoke on
00:35:53.800 YouTube
00:35:54.140 on our
00:35:54.960 second
00:35:55.400 occasion.
00:35:56.580 The erstwhile
00:35:57.380 Democrat
00:35:58.000 contender for
00:35:58.840 president had,
00:36:00.020 by that time,
00:36:01.520 experienced
00:36:02.120 running hard
00:36:03.380 and headlong
00:36:04.100 into precisely
00:36:05.340 what I had
00:36:05.940 intimated in
00:36:07.140 the form of
00:36:07.760 my initial
00:36:08.460 and purposefully
00:36:09.520 leading question.
00:36:11.020 In consequence,
00:36:12.180 Robert F.
00:36:12.920 detailed for
00:36:14.740 at least an
00:36:15.400 hour his
00:36:16.800 utter dismay
00:36:18.080 with the
00:36:18.640 power-mad, 0.99
00:36:20.100 corrupt, 1.00
00:36:21.120 ideologically 1.00
00:36:21.860 possessed
00:36:22.500 shenanigans
00:36:23.480 of the
00:36:24.380 progressive
00:36:24.800 left,
00:36:25.780 the very
00:36:26.420 force that
00:36:27.140 could continue
00:36:27.960 its current
00:36:28.540 domination of
00:36:29.460 the public
00:36:29.880 discourse and
00:36:31.140 seen if
00:36:32.240 Ms. Kamala
00:36:33.120 Harris and
00:36:34.320 the shadowy
00:36:35.220 and unknown
00:36:36.060 forces behind
00:36:37.140 her ascent to
00:36:38.180 power managed
00:36:39.660 to maintain
00:36:40.280 their positions
00:36:41.260 come November.
00:36:43.220 What is
00:36:43.480 Kennedy like 0.98
00:36:44.240 as a
00:36:44.620 personality?
00:36:45.820 Extroverted
00:36:46.380 like Trump,
00:36:48.600 although perhaps
00:36:49.320 not as much
00:36:50.040 so.
00:36:51.040 Trump is
00:36:51.480 hard to
00:36:51.840 equal,
00:36:52.500 let alone
00:36:52.960 top in
00:36:53.760 that regard,
00:36:55.040 not without
00:36:55.640 his pain and
00:36:56.520 negative emotion
00:36:57.320 like Musk,
00:36:58.320 not too
00:36:59.060 agreeable,
00:37:00.260 although not
00:37:00.820 at all
00:37:01.200 narcissistic.
00:37:02.880 Despite his
00:37:03.840 markedly
00:37:04.580 forceful
00:37:05.240 assertiveness
00:37:06.040 in opinion
00:37:06.760 and as a
00:37:07.500 speaker,
00:37:07.840 this was
00:37:09.280 evidenced
00:37:10.000 not least
00:37:11.060 by my
00:37:11.660 comparative
00:37:12.220 silence,
00:37:13.380 particularly
00:37:13.700 during our
00:37:14.400 second YouTube
00:37:15.140 discussion.
00:37:16.260 I'm a very
00:37:17.000 talkative,
00:37:17.980 verbally
00:37:18.300 assertive
00:37:18.920 person,
00:37:19.720 for better
00:37:20.160 or worse,
00:37:21.360 but Mr.
00:37:22.000 Kennedy had
00:37:22.600 the stage
00:37:23.140 for the vast
00:37:23.740 majority of
00:37:24.420 our time
00:37:24.820 together.
00:37:25.600 That was
00:37:25.980 as it should
00:37:26.520 be, in
00:37:26.880 my opinion,
00:37:27.940 given the
00:37:28.360 circumstances,
00:37:29.400 but it is
00:37:30.000 still something
00:37:30.640 that does
00:37:31.160 not happen
00:37:31.800 to me
00:37:32.140 very often,
00:37:33.260 even when
00:37:33.720 I intend
00:37:34.440 it to.
00:37:35.440 Does this
00:37:35.900 mean that
00:37:36.380 RFK is
00:37:37.240 inappropriately
00:37:38.260 forward,
00:37:39.120 self-aggrandizing,
00:37:40.680 self-centered?
00:37:41.840 Not my
00:37:42.380 experience.
00:37:43.600 One anecdote
00:37:44.500 quite tellingly
00:37:45.820 reveals why
00:37:46.840 RFK Jr.
00:37:48.280 and I
00:37:48.760 encountered
00:37:49.380 one another
00:37:50.000 one evening
00:37:50.740 in a restaurant
00:37:51.400 I happened
00:37:52.120 to be dining
00:37:52.660 in during
00:37:53.540 my last
00:37:54.080 tour.
00:37:54.780 I was there
00:37:55.360 with Dr.
00:37:56.240 Phil in
00:37:57.020 a private
00:37:57.480 room in
00:37:57.980 the back
00:37:58.340 of the
00:37:58.560 building.
00:37:59.260 Mr.
00:37:59.600 Kennedy
00:37:59.880 happened
00:38:00.340 into the
00:38:00.900 establishment,
00:38:01.960 was informed
00:38:02.700 that we
00:38:03.360 were also
00:38:04.060 there,
00:38:04.900 and sent
00:38:05.600 someone forward
00:38:06.520 to ask
00:38:07.240 if he
00:38:07.800 could come
00:38:08.240 and say
00:38:08.640 hello.
00:38:09.640 The fact
00:38:10.240 that he
00:38:10.520 so politely
00:38:11.240 sought permission,
00:38:12.660 since no
00:38:13.540 offense would
00:38:14.300 have been
00:38:14.560 taken had
00:38:15.200 he not,
00:38:16.180 was something
00:38:16.640 I noted,
00:38:17.720 as was his
00:38:18.700 somewhat near
00:38:19.680 apologetic entrance,
00:38:21.480 asking the
00:38:22.200 two of us
00:38:22.740 very graciously
00:38:23.580 to forgive
00:38:24.580 the intrusion.
00:38:25.860 An intrusion
00:38:26.580 it was not,
00:38:27.460 as we were
00:38:28.060 happy to see
00:38:28.720 him,
00:38:28.960 and pleased
00:38:29.740 that he
00:38:30.080 dropped in.
00:38:31.220 He could
00:38:31.540 have just
00:38:31.860 taken that
00:38:32.400 for granted,
00:38:33.160 and even
00:38:33.720 justly
00:38:34.280 so.
00:38:35.220 But he
00:38:35.560 didn't.
00:38:36.620 A trivial
00:38:37.080 happening,
00:38:37.620 you might
00:38:37.920 object.
00:38:39.020 But I
00:38:39.360 think not.
00:38:40.620 Instead of
00:38:41.180 presuming,
00:38:42.320 he displayed
00:38:42.960 all the
00:38:43.600 social niceties
00:38:44.580 that might
00:38:45.120 be hoped
00:38:45.580 for,
00:38:46.120 and more.
00:38:47.180 I saw
00:38:47.600 evidence of
00:38:48.320 the same
00:38:48.760 proclivity
00:38:49.280 every time
00:38:49.800 I met
00:38:50.220 him.
00:38:51.020 It's not
00:38:51.620 all about
00:38:52.420 RFK Jr.,
00:38:54.560 and that is
00:38:55.020 a good thing
00:38:55.480 to see,
00:38:56.380 given the
00:38:56.880 fame and
00:38:57.400 family
00:38:57.760 reputation
00:38:58.460 that has
00:38:59.260 been part
00:38:59.720 and parcel
00:39:00.220 of his
00:39:00.620 life ever
00:39:01.500 since day
00:39:02.140 one.
00:39:02.520 This is
00:39:03.740 not to
00:39:04.160 say that
00:39:04.580 Kennedy,
00:39:05.220 like Trump
00:39:05.900 and Musk,
00:39:06.380 is without
00:39:06.820 his eccentricities.
00:39:08.320 But as the
00:39:08.900 German philosopher
00:39:09.760 Friedrich Nietzsche
00:39:10.660 once so
00:39:11.280 perspicaciously
00:39:12.200 noted,
00:39:13.540 great men
00:39:14.100 are seldom
00:39:14.620 credited
00:39:15.160 with their 1.00
00:39:16.220 stupidities. 1.00
00:39:17.760 RFK Jr. 1.00
00:39:18.880 is a singular
00:39:19.700 person,
00:39:20.860 with everything
00:39:21.380 that entails
00:39:22.120 on the
00:39:22.960 positive and
00:39:24.020 negative side.
00:39:25.300 He has a
00:39:25.800 somewhat
00:39:26.160 conspiratorial
00:39:27.400 mindset,
00:39:28.660 which,
00:39:29.400 given the
00:39:29.880 means of
00:39:30.400 demise of
00:39:31.040 his uncle
00:39:31.480 and father
00:39:32.140 is eminently
00:39:33.440 understandable.
00:39:34.960 Furthermore,
00:39:35.940 there are
00:39:36.380 indeed strange
00:39:37.420 things afoot
00:39:38.300 in the world
00:39:38.980 today,
00:39:39.700 such that
00:39:40.280 Kennedy's 0.53
00:39:40.880 suspicion on
00:39:41.740 various fronts
00:39:42.560 may be well
00:39:43.700 warranted.
00:39:44.820 Nonetheless,
00:39:45.440 it's still a
00:39:46.060 tendency that
00:39:47.200 has to be
00:39:47.780 carefully held
00:39:48.580 in check.
00:39:49.560 Better to
00:39:50.120 assume
00:39:50.460 incompetence
00:39:51.300 than malevolence,
00:39:52.520 for example.
00:39:53.600 And adept
00:39:54.340 pattern recognizers,
00:39:56.160 of which Kennedy,
00:39:57.300 like Trump,
00:39:57.940 is certainly one,
00:39:59.460 can be plagued
00:40:00.500 by false
00:40:01.320 positives,
00:40:02.640 the tendency
00:40:03.200 to see
00:40:03.760 something that
00:40:04.880 is in fact
00:40:05.640 not there.
00:40:06.940 But the
00:40:07.680 tectonic plates
00:40:09.100 are moving
00:40:10.400 under our
00:40:11.080 culture at an
00:40:12.300 ever-increasing
00:40:13.180 rate,
00:40:14.060 and Kennedy's
00:40:14.700 skepticism,
00:40:15.760 his ability to
00:40:16.520 see the forest
00:40:17.400 and the trees,
00:40:19.120 could easily
00:40:19.740 prove something
00:40:20.400 of great advantage
00:40:21.380 to the American
00:40:22.140 people,
00:40:22.980 prone as they
00:40:23.920 are now,
00:40:25.020 to manipulation
00:40:25.980 by the looming
00:40:27.280 quasi-fascist
00:40:28.700 forces of the
00:40:30.020 utopian,
00:40:31.060 authoritarian,
00:40:32.480 wannabe
00:40:32.940 globalist state.
00:40:35.000 Imagine,
00:40:35.940 for a moment,
00:40:36.680 that Musk
00:40:37.300 can bring
00:40:38.400 efficiency to
00:40:39.360 the federal
00:40:39.900 government,
00:40:40.960 and that Kennedy,
00:40:41.840 with his
00:40:42.260 skepticism and
00:40:43.260 willing to
00:40:43.720 battle Goliath's,
00:40:45.000 however large,
00:40:46.060 stumbling,
00:40:46.560 and blind,
00:40:47.420 can seriously
00:40:48.180 address the
00:40:49.060 twin and
00:40:50.080 terribly pervasive
00:40:51.200 and serious
00:40:51.880 problems of
00:40:53.000 obesity and
00:40:53.920 insulin resistance
00:40:55.000 and their
00:40:55.680 terrible spin-offs.
00:40:57.180 these two
00:40:58.520 things alone
00:40:59.520 would be well
00:41:01.060 worth much
00:41:01.660 attendant risk,
00:41:03.080 in my estimation.
00:41:04.820 Who dares,
00:41:06.000 after all,
00:41:07.880 wins.
00:41:08.860 Could we ask
00:41:09.640 anything more of
00:41:10.420 any single
00:41:11.080 four-year
00:41:11.580 administration?
00:41:12.900 But there is
00:41:13.480 even more on
00:41:14.340 the table,
00:41:15.440 as there are
00:41:16.120 more remarkable
00:41:17.080 actors involved.
00:41:19.280 The last time I
00:41:20.560 saw Tulsi Gabbard
00:41:21.680 was in D.C.
00:41:22.940 during a
00:41:23.400 discussion hosted
00:41:24.460 in this
00:41:25.160 strangest of
00:41:26.080 all possible
00:41:26.800 worlds by
00:41:28.060 Russell Brand.
00:41:29.540 I had spoken
00:41:30.120 with her at
00:41:30.720 length, as in
00:41:31.880 the case of
00:41:32.380 Kennedy, on
00:41:33.300 my podcast,
00:41:34.480 although only
00:41:35.200 once.
00:41:36.080 What is
00:41:36.460 Lieutenant Colonel
00:41:37.600 Gabbard like
00:41:38.700 on the
00:41:39.380 personality side?
00:41:40.700 Moderately
00:41:41.220 extroverted,
00:41:42.240 higher in
00:41:42.980 assertiveness
00:41:43.800 than enthusiasm.
00:41:45.740 She is no 0.99
00:41:46.460 giggling girl.
00:41:48.080 Perhaps her
00:41:48.720 military experience
00:41:49.900 mitigated against
00:41:51.200 taking that
00:41:52.040 sometimes charming,
00:41:53.200 but often too
00:41:54.660 easy route,
00:41:55.980 markedly low in
00:41:57.100 neuroticism,
00:41:58.180 as befits a
00:41:59.040 woman who 0.99
00:41:59.500 pursued a
00:42:00.120 true military
00:42:00.980 career.
00:42:02.160 Agreeableness?
00:42:04.020 Ms. Gabbard
00:42:04.820 cares genuinely
00:42:06.180 about those she
00:42:07.480 served and
00:42:08.400 continues to
00:42:09.180 serve, although
00:42:10.260 I would say
00:42:11.280 she does so in
00:42:12.540 the temperamentally
00:42:13.480 conservative manner
00:42:14.520 that is part
00:42:15.460 patriotism and
00:42:16.740 part respect for
00:42:17.760 the intrinsic
00:42:18.460 dignity and
00:42:19.360 worth of every
00:42:20.220 person, rather
00:42:21.560 than in the
00:42:22.540 oft-cloying,
00:42:24.320 false, and
00:42:25.200 morally self-righteous
00:42:26.360 manner that so
00:42:27.560 often characterizes
00:42:28.900 the so-called
00:42:29.920 allies of the
00:42:31.440 oppressed.
00:42:32.500 On the side of
00:42:33.700 the progressive
00:42:34.220 left, she's also 0.76
00:42:35.540 very smart.
00:42:36.940 Without the more
00:42:37.680 showy brilliance of
00:42:38.980 Ramaswamy, who we
00:42:40.340 still have to
00:42:40.940 discuss, down to
00:42:42.440 earth in that
00:42:43.680 intelligence, and
00:42:45.240 is as conscientious
00:42:46.320 as you would hope
00:42:47.120 an ex-military
00:42:48.380 member and
00:42:49.260 influential political
00:42:50.500 leader might be.
00:42:52.920 Gabbard is the
00:42:53.700 sort of woman who 1.00
00:42:54.940 would make of
00:42:55.560 someone a
00:42:56.680 favorite aunt, a
00:42:58.260 close confidant, a
00:43:00.020 trusted friend.
00:43:01.340 If you wanted sane
00:43:02.480 advice, she'd be
00:43:05.200 your pick.
00:43:06.140 She doesn't have the
00:43:07.320 stunning entrepreneurial
00:43:08.760 flair of Musk,
00:43:10.580 Kennedy, or
00:43:11.180 Ramaswamy, but her 1.00
00:43:13.300 presence on the
00:43:14.420 X-Men team would
00:43:16.460 add to that excess of
00:43:18.240 plasticity some
00:43:20.000 true stability.
00:43:22.480 The other
00:43:22.900 personality,
00:43:23.740 Meta-trait.
00:43:24.780 This is particularly
00:43:25.600 important when the
00:43:26.960 team in question
00:43:27.820 will be tasked with
00:43:29.200 so much administrative
00:43:30.760 and managerial
00:43:31.700 responsibility.
00:43:33.140 It is great to
00:43:34.460 have someone around
00:43:35.320 like Vivek, for
00:43:36.340 example, who spins
00:43:37.780 off new ideas at a
00:43:40.100 constant rate, but I
00:43:41.600 bet on Gabbard to
00:43:43.420 implement effectively
00:43:44.760 and to pay attention
00:43:46.260 to all the details,
00:43:48.160 although Musk also
00:43:49.120 excels at that, to
00:43:50.580 walk the walk as
00:43:52.220 well as talk the
00:43:53.460 talk.
00:43:54.380 She's a very
00:43:54.980 difficult person not
00:43:56.220 to admire, not to
00:43:58.000 feel lesser than in
00:43:59.980 her presence.
00:44:01.060 She's solid,
00:44:02.160 competent,
00:44:03.100 straightforward,
00:44:04.680 admirable, brave,
00:44:06.520 patriotic, and
00:44:08.020 tough.
00:44:09.140 She'd be a truly
00:44:09.940 thoughtful presence in
00:44:11.200 the Trump X-Men
00:44:12.440 team, which might
00:44:13.940 otherwise tilt too
00:44:14.960 hard toward the
00:44:15.920 entrepreneurial and
00:44:16.940 revolutionary.
00:44:18.240 Slow down,
00:44:19.000 gentlemen.
00:44:20.440 Take some time and
00:44:21.500 think.
00:44:22.600 She has as well the
00:44:23.820 emotional resilience
00:44:24.900 not to panic, even
00:44:26.960 under pressure, not to
00:44:28.700 claim that the sky is
00:44:30.140 falling and rush
00:44:31.620 around madly and
00:44:32.520 counterproductively,
00:44:33.820 merely for the show
00:44:34.920 of work.
00:44:35.940 It doesn't hurt as
00:44:36.760 well that she is the
00:44:37.580 epitome of feminine 0.99
00:44:38.880 grace and attractiveness.
00:44:40.960 Wonder woman indeed.
00:44:42.780 Borrowing, if we
00:44:44.380 can, from the DC
00:44:45.800 world, the comic
00:44:47.440 books, and not the
00:44:48.940 city.
00:44:49.660 I could certainly
00:44:50.420 envision her as the
00:44:52.340 first truly deserving
00:44:53.740 female president of the
00:44:55.780 United States.
00:44:57.140 This brings us to one
00:44:59.420 Vivek Ramaswamy.
00:45:01.120 He and I recorded a
00:45:02.200 number of podcasts,
00:45:03.320 which I greatly
00:45:04.160 enjoyed.
00:45:05.160 That started before he
00:45:06.740 was running for office,
00:45:07.840 when we discussed
00:45:09.080 another notable
00:45:10.060 accomplishment, the
00:45:11.160 establishment of his
00:45:12.140 Strive Asset Management
00:45:13.880 Fund, designed to
00:45:15.580 give investors an
00:45:16.920 alternative to the
00:45:18.280 mongers of ESG,
00:45:20.400 stakeholder capitalism,
00:45:22.420 who are doing
00:45:22.940 everything they can to
00:45:24.560 sneak a particularly
00:45:26.380 pernicious form of
00:45:27.840 top-down, centrally
00:45:29.880 planned socialism into
00:45:32.420 the free market system,
00:45:33.720 so they can pretend to
00:45:35.800 be virtuous in a
00:45:37.000 manner hypothetically
00:45:38.440 unlike their greedy,
00:45:40.040 by-implication peers.
00:45:42.760 Not long after,
00:45:44.080 embarking on his
00:45:44.900 daring campaign for
00:45:46.100 president, Vivek began
00:45:48.020 a habit of approximately
00:45:49.320 quarterly appearances
00:45:50.540 on my YouTube channel.
00:45:52.800 That effort, despite its
00:45:54.900 unlikelihood, given his
00:45:56.600 unknown status as a
00:45:58.080 political contender,
00:45:59.600 unfolded very successfully,
00:46:02.360 bringing both the
00:46:03.200 candidate and his ideas
00:46:04.700 to a wide public audience,
00:46:06.900 and proving his
00:46:08.240 credibility as a young
00:46:09.440 and rising alternative
00:46:10.560 on the political scene.
00:46:12.640 What can I say about
00:46:13.620 Vivek's personality?
00:46:15.480 He is extroverted, both
00:46:17.020 on the assertive and
00:46:18.280 enthusiastic side,
00:46:20.160 characterized by more
00:46:21.220 positive emotion overall
00:46:22.700 than anyone else we have
00:46:24.160 discussed.
00:46:25.480 He's also very high in
00:46:27.260 openness, both to ideas
00:46:28.940 and, as far as I can tell,
00:46:30.840 on the artistic-cultural
00:46:32.480 side, although perhaps more
00:46:34.940 the former than the latter.
00:46:36.700 He shares those traits
00:46:37.860 with Trump, Musk, and
00:46:39.120 Kennedy, although less so,
00:46:41.140 although she is still far
00:46:42.620 above average in such
00:46:43.800 regard, than Gabbard.
00:46:45.840 He's more polite than
00:46:47.140 Trump, certainly more
00:46:49.100 measured in his speech,
00:46:50.740 less rough and provocative,
00:46:52.720 although also less witty,
00:46:55.020 although certainly not dull.
00:46:56.880 I would hazard a guess as
00:46:58.420 well that he is less
00:46:59.780 compassionate and people-centered
00:47:01.600 than both Trump and Musk.
00:47:03.800 Ramaswamy tends to stay in 1.00
00:47:06.700 the realm of ideas and is
00:47:08.620 clearly motivated on the
00:47:09.960 political side, primarily by
00:47:11.640 intellectual curiosity, as
00:47:13.840 well as the desire to see
00:47:15.160 things done better.
00:47:16.860 He appears low in
00:47:17.980 neuroticism and is highly
00:47:19.840 stress-tolerant, as those
00:47:21.660 are the same thing, unlikely
00:47:23.620 to withdraw, like Trump,
00:47:25.700 less depressive than Musk or
00:47:27.600 Kennedy, but also less
00:47:29.440 volatile than Trump, quite
00:47:31.620 stable temperamentally on the
00:47:34.200 emotional side.
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00:48:25.760 That's a good feature in a
00:48:30.720 crisis, as noted in the case
00:48:32.960 of Gabbard.
00:48:34.180 I suspect he is high in
00:48:35.460 conscientiousness as well,
00:48:37.300 particularly on the side of
00:48:38.660 industriousness, which is half
00:48:40.760 that trait, the other half
00:48:42.540 being orderliness.
00:48:44.340 Ramaswamy is very successful
00:48:46.020 for a comparatively young man,
00:48:47.960 and he has done that in
00:48:49.400 consequence of his own
00:48:50.500 efforts.
00:48:51.580 This is not a fate that
00:48:52.880 befalls people who fail to
00:48:54.460 work dreadfully hard.
00:48:57.320 Cautions?
00:48:58.640 With regard to Vivek?
00:49:01.540 Mostly to do with his youth,
00:49:03.520 Mr. Ramaswamy is accustomed
00:49:05.020 to being the smartest person
00:49:06.460 in the room, and perhaps the
00:49:09.360 most successful.
00:49:10.920 This gives him a certain
00:49:12.160 brashness.
00:49:13.520 When I watched him in the
00:49:14.900 first round of the Republican
00:49:16.200 primaries, for example, he was
00:49:18.620 the candidate who received the
00:49:20.140 most positive responses from the
00:49:22.540 audience, as well as the most
00:49:24.260 negative.
00:49:25.120 The same was true, arguably, of
00:49:27.620 his compatriots on the stage.
00:49:29.700 I thought he risked, in his
00:49:31.820 provocative but undeniably
00:49:33.760 interesting approach, some
00:49:35.780 unnecessary enmity from those
00:49:38.080 same people.
00:49:39.180 And it is not clear to me that
00:49:40.700 this was a good long-term
00:49:42.180 strategy, given the high
00:49:44.280 possibility of sharing a bed
00:49:46.160 with at least some of them,
00:49:48.360 metaphorically speaking, in the
00:49:50.660 future.
00:49:51.620 I would say that as his
00:49:53.100 campaign progressed, he became
00:49:55.020 more moderate and careful in his
00:49:56.700 criticism of his fellow
00:49:57.840 Republicans, but also more
00:50:00.040 measured overall in his
00:50:01.620 utterances.
00:50:02.720 This is a sign of someone
00:50:04.660 humble enough to learn, despite
00:50:07.220 his confidence.
00:50:09.200 And that is a good thing.
00:50:10.660 He is, above all, like Musk,
00:50:13.320 Kennedy, and Gabbard, cognitively
00:50:15.940 gifted.
00:50:16.840 And that is also a good thing.
00:50:18.460 Complex jobs require highly
00:50:21.080 intelligent people to manage
00:50:23.200 them.
00:50:23.780 This is true of any job where the
00:50:25.260 demands constantly shift, and
00:50:27.680 governance at the highest level
00:50:29.240 certainly qualifies.
00:50:32.060 His intelligence showed most
00:50:34.000 particularity in his ability to
00:50:36.180 bring a genuine intellectual
00:50:37.600 excitement to the Republican
00:50:39.140 stage, in addition to accounting
00:50:41.640 for his preternatural early
00:50:43.900 business success.
00:50:45.100 If Ramaswamy went bad, became
00:50:48.620 disillusioned, resentful, angry.
00:50:51.920 It might be in the narcissistic 0.85
00:50:53.940 direction, like Trump, like so
00:50:56.160 many in the political,
00:50:57.560 entertainment, and media realm.
00:50:59.320 But the fact that he is part of
00:51:00.980 this team of high performers
00:51:02.880 means, number one, that he will be
00:51:06.020 required in the best possible way to
00:51:08.400 watch his words and actions, and
00:51:10.340 number two, that he will be
00:51:12.160 surrounded by the kind of wise
00:51:13.700 counsel that can help him mature
00:51:15.720 into a person even more
00:51:17.240 remarkable than he is now.
00:51:20.040 His youth might be regarded as a
00:51:22.100 hindrance insofar as he is less 0.85
00:51:24.200 experienced than he might be, even
00:51:26.460 arguably somewhat overconfident.
00:51:29.780 But it is also a marked advantage in
00:51:32.980 that Vivek is not living in 1995, or
00:51:36.780 even 2005, and is very much part of the
00:51:40.240 online digital generation during the
00:51:42.940 most rapid time of technological
00:51:44.820 transformation in human history.
00:51:48.260 I have not yet met J.D. Vance, although
00:51:51.740 we have a podcast planned.
00:51:54.160 I have read his book, however, much of
00:51:56.620 it twice.
00:51:57.420 I also watched his debate with
00:51:59.120 Governor Walz, the Democrat VP
00:52:01.600 candidate, very carefully.
00:52:03.780 The first thing to understand about
00:52:05.760 Vance, like Vivek, like Kennedy, like
00:52:08.860 Musk, is his intelligence.
00:52:11.460 You don't pull yourself out of the
00:52:13.580 serious backwoods of Appalachia and
00:52:16.520 graduate from law school at Yale without
00:52:19.200 some 95th or even 99th percentile
00:52:22.620 intelligence.
00:52:23.840 He also appears mature for his age, even
00:52:27.260 more so than Vivek, for whom he is perhaps a
00:52:30.120 match in raw cognitive power.
00:52:32.120 I suspect as well that J.D. is highly
00:52:35.160 conscientious, as it is that trait, second
00:52:38.220 only to intelligence, which best predicts
00:52:41.340 upward mobility.
00:52:42.800 And he is certainly the poster child for
00:52:44.820 the American dream in the land where
00:52:46.960 anyone can become president.
00:52:49.460 He is as well extroverted, particularly on
00:52:52.420 the assertiveness side rather than
00:52:54.260 enthusiastic, and appears both more
00:52:56.820 compassionate and perhaps more polite than
00:53:00.480 Trump and Vivek.
00:53:02.520 Vance writes, with real love of the people
00:53:05.700 in his life, in Hillbilly Elegy, which is
00:53:08.260 genuinely a people rather than idea-centered
00:53:12.040 book.
00:53:12.900 That is not a criticism, by the way.
00:53:15.580 Merely an observation, as I have already
00:53:18.120 commented positively on his intelligence.
00:53:20.500 I think the Republican vice presidential
00:53:24.160 contender will bring a whole other level of
00:53:27.460 concern for the working class to the Trump
00:53:30.540 X-Men team, not least because he is not
00:53:34.040 dismissive of his past, as so many who have
00:53:37.520 escaped upward tend to be.
00:53:39.960 Joining the elites in their contempt for the
00:53:42.160 workers and the inhabitants of the lower rungs of the
00:53:45.120 economic ladder, I detected a profound absence of
00:53:49.100 such dismissive sentiment in Hillbilly Elegy, a work
00:53:53.540 that was instead characterized by the substantive
00:53:57.220 gratitude of the well-integrated personality.
00:54:01.340 Vance is also a very good speaker.
00:54:03.780 That's the extroversion, as well as raw cognitive
00:54:06.280 power.
00:54:07.360 Fast on his feet and also no pushover, despite his
00:54:12.080 people-centered outlook, he holds his temper very well.
00:54:16.340 So he appears low in the neuroticism aspect of
00:54:19.700 volatility, more stable in that regard than the
00:54:22.780 Donald, whom he defended in his debate better than the
00:54:27.020 former president managed for himself, and has also
00:54:30.580 overcome many serious obstacles in his uphill climb.
00:54:35.500 Thus, he appears low as well in withdrawal.
00:54:38.440 Vance is another person who, like Tulsi Gabbard, is
00:54:43.100 unlikely to panic under difficult conditions.
00:54:46.500 This is a very positive attribute in the leader.
00:54:49.380 He is another person likely to be a steadying managerial
00:54:52.900 hand, balancing the dangerous brilliance of some of the
00:54:56.520 other members of the Trump coterie.
00:54:59.640 Do I have any reservations, having said all this, about
00:55:04.320 the new Trump X-Men team?
00:55:07.480 Of course.
00:55:08.760 First, it is a dreadfully creative consortium.
00:55:13.600 And it is not at all obvious that under normal conditions,
00:55:18.740 creative brilliance is the first thing to want in political
00:55:21.940 leaders who should mostly play an administrative role under
00:55:26.660 normal conditions.
00:55:28.260 However, the current situation in the U.S.
00:55:30.860 and abroad is not normal, and something out of the box may
00:55:35.360 well be necessary in consequence.
00:55:38.400 So I think the risk worth taking.
00:55:42.100 Second, any one of the strange and powerful mutant or superhero
00:55:47.600 personalities that have gathered themselves around Trump, as
00:55:51.520 well as the Donald himself, could go seriously wrong.
00:55:55.380 They are all strong-willed, charismatic, terribly able people, all of
00:56:01.260 whom appear more than capable of pushing their way forward, even
00:56:05.260 when in error and to hell with the consequences. 0.86
00:56:09.140 Such is the proclivity of genuine movers and shakers. 1.00
00:56:13.800 However, this is much more likely to happen in isolation.
00:56:17.840 The six of them together, Trump, Musk, Kennedy, Gabbard,
00:56:22.060 Ramaswamy, and Vance should be able to keep every single member in
00:56:27.760 check.
00:56:28.640 And that bodes well for the creativity, productivity, and
00:56:32.700 stability of the future Trump X-Men team administration.
00:56:37.740 And wouldn't it be a relief to Donald J, who is starting to be an
00:56:42.580 older man, to have some people around him he could admire and who
00:56:47.220 could really help him and who respect and listen to him and who
00:56:51.380 could necessarily and voluntarily bear some of what is obviously just too
00:56:56.900 much responsibility and possibility for one man?
00:57:01.560 Finally, and perhaps most importantly, wouldn't it be insanely
00:57:07.820 interesting?
00:57:09.680 Wouldn't it be, in a word, fun?
00:57:13.540 Wouldn't all you daring and oh-so-cinema-obsessed theatrical
00:57:18.380 Americans love to have the adventure that such a mutant group of strange 1.00
00:57:24.500 personalities running the show would offer for the next four years or
00:57:30.600 longer?
00:57:31.920 Trump, Musk, Kennedy, Gabbard, Ramaswamy, Vance?
00:57:37.640 That's a dream team by the standards of anyone looking for a wild and
00:57:43.300 compelling show.
00:57:45.040 God only knows what, with that same God's help, they could accomplish.
00:57:50.840 Every single one of those people is remarkable in their own right.
00:57:55.420 Everyone, a person whom it has been a privilege to watch, hear, and to some
00:58:00.920 degree get to know.
00:58:03.320 It is for such reasons, for what it is worth, that I hereby and wholeheartedly
00:58:07.960 endorse the Trump X-Men team.
00:58:11.760 I truly can't imagine anything more exciting and absurd than their ascendance.
00:58:16.960 Any possible political event, more preposterous and compelling.
00:58:22.300 Any future I could look forward to with more on-the-edge-of-my-seat excitement.
00:58:28.340 That's a great and amazing opportunity.
00:58:32.040 Remember this, however.
00:58:33.160 Remember, remarkable as they are, those DC-bound X-Men are going to need plenty of
00:58:39.220 help.
00:58:39.840 And all of you watching and listening should understand that failure looms unless you
00:58:46.040 are there to do your part.
00:58:48.500 Seriously.
00:58:49.700 It's not for nothing that you are all sovereign citizens of a free and remarkable
00:58:54.120 state charged with the responsibility and opportunity of your own governance.
00:58:59.180 Start by voting.
00:59:02.100 If all of you who are undecided just took up that initial light mantle of citizenship and
00:59:07.440 headed to the booths, or all of you too cynical above it all and faux cool to bother, the whole
00:59:15.700 world could change.
00:59:16.720 And in a remarkable way, this is going to be a thin margin of victory or defeat one way
00:59:23.700 or another.
00:59:24.140 Don't let what you hope for vanish in consequence of your inaction.
00:59:30.220 Play your part in bringing the Trump X-Men team to DC and let the cards fall where they
00:59:36.980 may.
00:59:38.080 What new possibilities might be revealed?
00:59:41.660 What new opportunities might emerge?
00:59:44.040 What vistas of productive peace be established if these six people took the reins?
00:59:49.720 I want to be around just to see it.
00:59:54.060 On with the show.