Dr. Jared Ross has aligned himself with an organization called Do No Harm, which is a group of 12,000 people involved in the medical profession who are bringing to light the practices of gender affirmation, so to speak, to minors in the United States. And about a week ago, this organization released its first database, and it was a bombshell. Here s what they found: 14,000 minors underwent sex change treatments across nearly 2,000 U.S. hospitals, and about 6,000 of them received sex change surgeries. That s double mastectomy, castration, the creation of a vagina, and a surgical wound. That's 63,000 cross-sex hormones and puberty blockers prescriptions written for 9000 minors. And there s the rub: they submitted charges to insurance companies to cover the costs of these surgeries. So, listen and learn from Dr. Ross, who's own personal experience as a physician subjected to the tender mercies of the DeI ideologues. Dr.Ross talks about the utter brutality and unforgivable nature of this insane, brutal, malevolent movement that is resulting in the physical and psychological destruction of thousands of minors who cannot give informed consent, not properly to this kind of treatment. These are crimes against humanity that are being perpetrated en masse in the US en masse, en masse. by the radical gender ideology that s taking hold of our children and their parents who are desperate for answers. And we all know this radical ideology that is taking hold, and we can t seem to be doing anything about it. In this episode, we talk to Dr. . about the problem, and how we can stop it, and what we can do to stop it even if we don t already have the answers we ve all been taught about it in schools, in the media, in our schools, and in the movies, TV, and social media, and on social media and on the internet or in our own homes, and our own personal lives to do something about it, at least we can at least in the real world so we can all of us can do something anything at all we can help stop it . or not just any of us can do , right? if we of course that s not is right enough with our .
00:02:57.820We talked a little bit about Dr. Ross's own personal experience as a physician
00:03:02.320subjected to the tender mercies of the DEI ideologues.
00:03:07.320But we talked mostly about the utter brutality and unforgivable nature of this insane, brutal, malevolent
00:03:19.040gender affirmation movement that is resulting in the physical and psychological destruction of thousands of minors who cannot give informed consent, not properly, to this kind of treatment.
00:03:34.840These are crimes against humanity that are being perpetrated en masse in the United States.
00:03:45.180So, Dr. Ross, you're with an organization known as Do No Harm, which seems under the present circumstances to be a strange organization for physicians to be involved in.
00:04:00.220Horrible as that is, although we could say the same about psychologists, that's for sure.
00:04:05.700So, and you guys launched a bombshell a week ago.
00:05:40.840Like, this is the worst thing that I've ever seen the medical profession do, I think.
00:05:45.120And my colleagues in the counseling fields are equally to blame, I would say.
00:05:51.860And so, yeah, so the issue is children are being gender-affirmed, which is one of the most pathological phraseologies I've ever seen the woke mob manage to formulate.
00:06:07.240Because gender-affirmed means put on puberty blockers, mutilated, and sterilized.
00:06:15.200And in what bloody universe that constitutes gender affirmation is a complete miracle, predicated on the idea that gender and sex are separate, a claim for which there is no psychometric evidence whatsoever, right?
00:06:29.720So that's a complete false claim from a psychological perspective, from a measurement perspective.
00:06:34.560And also predicated on the idea that sex is somehow assigned at birth rather than a biological reality.
00:06:43.240And that children can decide for themselves when they're too young to perform, to offer informed consent, that somehow they're in the wrong bodies.
00:06:54.280And that the proper treatment for that is radical hormonal treatment, mutilation, and sterilization.
00:07:04.780Okay, so now, and then the response by the gender-affirming ideologues, who are the same bloody rainbow mob of left-wing ideologues that we've been contending with for years.
00:07:15.300The response to them to this is happening and shouldn't be to minors is, that's a right-wing conspiracy and delusion.
00:07:24.500Okay, so let's just see what you found.
00:07:28.04014,000 minors, give or take six, underwent six changed treatments across nearly 2,000 hospitals and medical facilities between 2019 and 2023.
00:08:23.020And I read a brief two years ago, some marketing company had produced it, describing gender-affirming care, especially on the surgical front, as a growth industry.
00:08:37.100I think their projections were 15% growth per year.
00:08:42.120And so if you happen to be the kind of bloodthirsty, sadistic, plastic surgeon who figured that your practice, especially if you were incompetent, wasn't exactly doing what you think it might, then you could certainly turn to preying on children.
00:08:56.100It's also the case, by the way, this is something known on the psychometric front, that sadists are overrepresented among surgeons.
00:09:04.420Now, that doesn't mean that all surgeons are sadists, but it does mean that if you are a sadist, that's a pretty fine profession to undertake.
00:09:12.660Okay, so 14,000 minors and $120 million in submitted charges to insurance.
00:09:21.600So how accurate a reflection do you think of the scope, is that of the scope of the problem?
00:09:25.360Well, this is just the tip of the iceberg.
00:09:27.220We were very, very conservative with our methodology, and we only had access to external VA, Medicare, Medicaid, and private insurance.
00:09:39.220We didn't have access to massive factories for this, such as the Kaiser system in California.
00:09:47.360We didn't have access to charity care.
00:09:49.580We didn't have access to patients that pay cash or their parents who pay cash.
00:09:55.920And I hate to demonize the parents there.
00:09:58.040I think these are parents that are desperate, looking for answers for children.
00:10:04.780I mean, one of the things that I—look, I understand that parents—this happened with Elon Musk, for example.
00:10:11.320I understand that parents were informed often by psychologists, something along the line of, would you rather have a live, sex-transformed child or a dead child?
00:10:26.200And I heard that, and I thought, that's the biggest lie, maybe the biggest lie from quasi-medical and medical professionals I've ever heard, because I knew perfectly well there was absolutely no justification for that claim.
00:10:38.220First of all, it's actually technically impossible to make that claim, because even if the suicide rate is higher among children with gender confusion, you have to control for the a priori presence of depression and anxiety, which are by far the better predictors of suicide.
00:10:54.740And there's no way of doing that, because you can't figure out which comes first, the gender dysphoria, whatever that is, or the depression and anxiety.
00:11:02.940And the rule of thumb for anybody who's remotely informed on the diagnostic front is you start with the depression and anxiety, because that's just generalized negative emotion.
00:11:14.660And then you attribute some proportion of what's left over to whatever the particular psychological problem happens to be.
00:11:22.620And so the idea that there was an elevated suicide risk that was specific to gender dysphoria, it was like, yeah, I don't think so.
00:11:30.580And then the additional absurdity of the claim that the best way to treat confused, anxious, depressed, gender dysphoric, unpopular, attention-seeking adolescents was to brutalize them with surgery that is experimental and also counterproductive, plus the puberty blockers and the sterilization.
00:11:54.280It's like, that's like, that's the devil's nightmare.
00:11:57.120So, okay, so we can have some sympathy for the parents because this is what they are being informed.
00:12:01.900But then, you know, that's tempered for me because there is the narcissistic parent who is more than happy to do whatever they need to, to make their child a burden.
00:12:15.480So they can parade their bloody moral virtue around to their friends.
00:12:19.440And if you don't think that that's part of this epidemic, you haven't, you haven't lived in the world of genuine psychopathology.
00:12:26.940So, you know, I have some sympathy for the parents and I know people too, whose children were caught up in this gender transformation epidemic.
00:12:35.420But, but, but, but, you know, the parents have a duty to protect their children, right, including against overreaching physicians and demented social workers and pathological cowardly psychologists.
00:12:52.580And there's a terrible failure of parental interaction here.
00:12:56.940So, anyways, sorry to rant about that.
00:12:59.620This starts in the schools, I think we've seen, and we saw during the pandemic, that this is all being indoctrinated in our public schools and that children are being held out as being, you know, quote unquote, gender diverse.
00:13:13.860And so it's a great way for a child who maybe doesn't fit in or is being bullied to become the favorite of the teacher, to stand out, to be celebrated.
00:14:04.160And I asked her like very simple clinical questions.
00:14:07.020You know, I said, Chloe, when, when you were unhappy, did anyone sit you down and say, you know, negative emotion increases among young women when they hit puberty?
00:14:17.760Reliable finding, anxiety, anxiety, depression, and just generalized negative emotion.
00:14:24.040Whether it's hormonal, what the cause of that is, we don't know.
00:14:28.680But boys and girls have about the same levels of negative emotion.
00:14:32.580When the girls hit puberty, their negative emotion levels rise, and they never really go back down.
00:14:37.640And it's likely because women become sexually vulnerable at puberty.
00:14:45.680Women have to be more sensitive to the distress of their children.
00:14:48.920And you see that reflected not only differences in neuroticism, let's say, which is general sensitivity to negative emotion, but the findings worldwide epidemiologically that women are two to four times more likely to be diagnosed with depression and anxiety.
00:15:03.980So I asked her, did anybody just tell you that there's some high probability that your negative emotion levels would spike at puberty?
00:15:15.040Did anybody tell you that among women, because this is also true, one of the most common manifestations of negative emotion is bodily self-consciousness?
00:15:27.160And that that's particularly true for pubertal girls.
00:16:10.640And now your body is doing strange things, right?
00:16:13.520And God only knows what sort of attention that's attracting to you or not.
00:16:17.280But, so there's no, they're offered an alternative explanation for that, conjoined with the promise that if you just wander down the hormonal and surgical treatment route, all your problems will magically disappear.
00:16:32.280All the while, as you pointed out, that much more attention is being showered on them.
00:16:40.240It's particularly true of children who've never been paid any attention to by anyone than they would normally get.
00:16:45.840So, it's a devil's brew, a witch's brew, a witch's brew for alienated 12-year-olds.
00:16:54.600So, you know, I really feel bad for the kids now.
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00:18:15.780And especially these kids who are coming from broken homes or have, you know, have a history of sexual abuse or demons in their closet, right?
00:18:56.900It's also a field that's become corrupt.
00:18:59.560It's become corrupt because, as we'll talk about, the DEI mavens have reached their fingers in.
00:19:05.800In Canada, I don't know if this legislation was passed or these regulations were passed, but I believe it was the Canadian Psychological Association.
00:19:18.600It was one of the major organizations that certify clinical psychology training programs in Canada.
00:19:27.680So, and they put forth the proposition that any clinical training program that didn't have a social justice orientation was to be scrubbed from the certification rolls.
00:19:41.360So that's a complete bloody catastrophe.
00:19:45.900Then what's worse, I don't know if it's as bad in Canada, in the U.S., but I suspect so, because there's not much difference between what's happening in the two countries.
00:19:57.120You're really bound by law in Canada to lie to parents and to children if you're a mental health professional or a physician.
00:20:06.020Because your, the legislation in Canada is now written so that if you discriminate on the basis of gender identity or expression, which is fashion, literally, then that's not only a violation of the law, it's a hate crime.
00:20:26.140So what that means practically is that if you take your distressed 13-year-old to see a psychologist, a psychiatrist, or an MD, unless they're the bravest of individuals, the easiest pathway for them to say is, to take is, well, what do you think should happen?
00:20:48.980So that's, that's, that's the identity that the child has themself.
00:21:47.440And if they don't know it, they haven't been trained well.
00:21:50.000And second, girls hit puberty younger.
00:21:53.160So they're less, arguably, well, they've certainly had less experience in the world by the time they hit puberty than boys who hit it a couple of years later.
00:22:01.860And also the pressure's higher on them, you know, because sex is way more dangerous to girls than it is to boys.
00:22:08.160So, and they're more likely to be preyed upon, too.
00:22:24.160And 63,000 cross-sex hormones and puberty blocker prescriptions written for 9,000 minors.
00:22:34.460Right now, we also know from the clinical literature, from what I've been able to establish, that you're pretty likely to proceed down the surgical route.
00:22:44.680If you've already proceeded down the sex hormone and puberty blocker route.
00:22:49.800You don't even need to get that far down this pathway, just that harmless social transition of changing pronouns, changing clothing, changing names.
00:23:01.180That leads to puberty blockers, which leads to cross-sex hormones, which leads to these mutilative, irreversible surgeries.
00:23:10.100And these lifelong patients, who are, of course, very profitable to this medical-industrial complex.
00:23:17.640Well, and let's talk about the surgeries.
00:23:22.740And let's do that in some graphic detail, because that's fun.
00:23:26.920You know, I talked to Michael Schellenberger, who broke the WPATH story.
00:23:31.040WPATH, for everybody who doesn't know, was an organization of hypothetically medical professionals, which is, and it wasn't an organization.
00:23:40.420And whatever those people were, they certainly weren't medical professionals.
00:23:43.900And they set up a system of so-called guidelines that all the major psychological and medical organizations kowtowed in, like, seconds flat and accepted their pronouncements, which had no basis whatsoever, in fact, as doctrine, right?
00:25:04.240It was the first podcast I did after I'd been ill.
00:25:06.500And I was just terrified because you couldn't say any of this publicly without, well, especially if you're a psychologist, without getting your license threatened, as mine is, for exactly such reasons.
00:25:18.700But Schreier detailed out the surgeries to some degree, and a fair bit in her book.
00:25:25.300And Schellenberger watched that podcast, and he told me that he just couldn't believe it.
00:25:31.080You know, it was so awful, he couldn't believe it could be possibly true.
00:25:36.340And so when they hear, well, this never happens, it's a right-wing conspiracy, it's like, well, that's a hell of a lot easier to believe than that there are 12 major children's hospitals in the United States who are radically profiting off performing, conducting experiments that are as bad in their essence as anything the Nazis had managed in the Auschwitz, in the concentration camps.
00:26:04.380Right, or even maybe the Japanese in Unit 731.
00:26:21.160And when we talk about 12, we've selected our dirty dozen children's hospitals.
00:26:26.520And don't quote me on the number, but I believe there's over 60 children's hospitals across the country that are performing this care, these hormones and surgeries.
00:26:38.000And what we realized is that less than 10% of this is actually happening at the children's hospitals.
00:26:43.700They're shifting this out into the private surgery centers and out into the community to try to get the spotlight off of the children's hospitals.
00:26:56.960Well, and there's also something else, too, that with regards to the puberty blockers and cross-sex hormones, there's an active movement online to provide black or gray market prescriptions to young people.
00:27:10.260So they can get the cross-sex hormones without having to undergo the interference of the parents who don't care or the physicians who have enough sense not to do it.
00:27:20.820So God only knows how extensive this really is.
00:27:53.080You know, worn as a badge of pride, let's say, by the children who've been sacrificed to this movement.
00:27:58.640Then they make this tube of flesh that hypothetically constitutes a penis but has, like, none of the function thereby that produces exactly the kinds of terrible complications you would presume.
00:28:14.280Internal hair growth, that's a fun one, plus the ever-present, not a risk, but almost certainty of infection.
00:28:25.000And then, of course, the vaginoplasty is the reverse.
00:28:49.940And then we're supposed to believe somehow that what you produce as a consequence of this utter butchery is something approximating, let's say, a vagina, a vulva, which is utterly preposterous.
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00:31:07.680And it's very clear that it's a surgical wound because these boys then have to maintain that by dilating, inserting larger and larger plastic dildos into these vaginas for hours upon hours for days and weeks and months.
00:31:31.120It's a lifelong commitment, and if they don't continue that commitment, strictures start developing.
00:31:37.700The body rejects this foreign orifice, and they start closing up on them.
00:31:44.120Right, or healing, as it's often known.
00:32:04.420We turned the country upside down five years ago for lesser crimes for the black men who were being shot by policemen, let's say, in nowhere bloody well, nowhere near those numbers, I can say.
00:32:19.140And the idea that this is a moral crime of lesser magnitude is who, the only way you can harbor that delusion is if you've been unwilling to actually look at what's going on.
00:32:31.100And I can see why people don't, because who can believe it?
00:32:36.980And as we said, you've only shone a light on the tip of the iceberg, because you can only get access to a certain number of these surgeries.
00:32:46.440And then, so now they are happening, and in the thousands and tens of thousands, right?
00:32:53.720And not only are they happening, they're super profitable, right?
00:32:57.920And not only are they happening to minors who cannot provide this kind of informed consent, so that's a violation of the Nuremberg Code, as far as I'm concerned.
00:33:08.580I truly believe these are crimes against humanity.
00:33:12.820And that the people who are involved should be tried, like the Nuremberg, like the perpetrators of the Nazi horrors were tried at Nuremberg.
00:33:22.620And I don't think it'll stop till that happens.
00:33:24.600And you also said, now that you're starting to shine a light on this, they're going underground, which is exactly what you'd expect.
00:33:35.780Who are you, and why shouldn't someone be suspicious of your data, your credibility?
00:33:42.860Who are these 12,000 people who are involved, and how did the project get going?
00:33:47.720Yeah, so Do No Harm started just over two years ago.
00:33:50.520Dr. Stanley Goldfarb, who was a very well-known professor at the University of Pennsylvania, a nephrologist, and involved with the medical school, also an editor of the go-to reference guide for physicians,
00:34:08.180started to push back on this encroachment of DEI into medical school, into the selection of students and residents and doctors.
00:34:18.720We had this erosion of meritocracy that we were no longer selecting, and again, I'm speaking in the past, but I should be speaking in the present tense,
00:34:28.440that we have this erosion in medicine of ideology, of skin color and melanin content over merit.
00:34:38.880Okay, so let's take that apart a little bit, because skeptical listeners might say, well, merit is just the imaginary constructions of an oppressive patriarchy.
00:34:51.440Let's say you screen for SATs to let people into medical school, or the MCAT.
00:34:56.480Okay, the MCATs are basically tests of general cognitive ability.
00:34:59.940Okay, there's no difference between that and intelligence.
00:35:02.180And so, intelligence isn't merit in relationship to doctors, if you think it's okay for doctors to be stupid.
00:35:54.880And then you also have to overlook the fact that cognitive tests themselves were first used,
00:36:02.700early used on a broad level, by socialists in the UK,
00:36:07.920who believed that if you could screen alienated populations, poor populations, for general cognitive ability,
00:36:16.380you could open the door to their advancement in the school system in the UK,
00:36:20.200and you could give the deserving poor their opportunity to move upward and benefit society by doing so.
00:36:28.540Which happened, same thing happened in the armed forces in the United States.
00:36:33.080So, the general cognitive tests were actually a means of social mobility for the very oppressed that the bloody leftists are always clamoring about.
00:36:41.600Right. And so, then the third thing you have to accept, if you're going to swallow this DEI nonsense,
00:36:49.740is that if you dispense with merit, objectively assessed, then what you get is greater equity.
00:36:57.840But the historical data show that there are three standard means of providing access to desirable jobs in any society.
00:37:46.180Because someone in that organization is making a subjective judgment about fit.
00:37:52.660And as soon as you have subjective judgment instead of objective data, you open the door to corruption.
00:37:58.200And you destroy the universities, the medical system, and the psychological training system, and then children's lives, and then patients' lives.
00:38:09.240I love that phrase, racially gerrymandering.
00:38:12.240And we've seen the devastation that this has had on the UCLA medical school, where the shelf exams, the standardized exams that are taken throughout the course of medical school, their pass rates have just plummeted at UCLA.
00:38:26.300And they're waving their hands, saying, you know, we need to get rid of these shelf exams.
00:38:33.600Well, look, one of the ways of understanding this practically and psychologically is that this is actually an assault on merit itself.
00:38:42.060And you might ask yourself, well, who wants to launch an assault on merit?
00:38:45.920And the answer is people who lack merit, because they can get access to the storehouses of value that were merit-defined in the absence of merit, especially if they're in a position to pull the levers of power and decide who gets in and who doesn't.
00:39:01.760So, it's an inversion of the merit structure.
00:39:03.640And the universities are to blame for this.
00:39:05.900Because I saw my own psychology department at the University of Toronto suspended the GRE for selection of students for a couple of years, because then they figured out what the hell happened.
00:39:19.640Even though, like, if you're a psychologist and you're so daft that you don't know that there's a higher correlation between general cognitive ability and performance in complex tasks, then you know nothing.
00:40:13.200Medicine has moved into the 21st century.
00:40:16.740Yes, but he was ousted from that and ousted from his position.
00:40:21.220And because he spoke out and said, look at how our emphasis on skin color, you know, again, we live in a world where everything's upside down.
00:40:47.520And we should just make a detour there because there's another form of stupidity that is associated with this that's quite profound.
00:40:54.960So, if you're concerned with the unfair distribution of power, then you're concerned that there's too bloody many Asians and Jews, let's say.
00:41:48.700And that turns out to be relative, or your psychiatrist, for that matter, because they can do plenty of damage when they're not qualified.
00:41:55.820In fact, they can tell you and your young child that if they don't have their breasts cut off by a sadist, that their risk for suicide will increase.
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00:44:14.660It's like heart disease, cancer, doctors.
00:44:16.960Okay, so then, and then I think, well, hospitals are breeding grounds for epidemic pathology, because putting sick people together with where bacteria can breed in the presence of compromised immune systems, it's probably not the wisest idea.
00:44:33.280And so I think, is there any epidemiological evidence that the medical profession does less harm than damage?
00:44:47.160And I'm not saying that in a position of superiority, being a psychologist, because I think the counseling industry has become pathologized to the point where I wouldn't recommend, certainly wouldn't recommend that a confused adolescent goes and sees a mental health professional, especially not a social worker.
00:45:06.580But also, not a psychologist or a psychiatrist, bound as they are, to not violate these insane laws, these insane laws.
00:45:18.760Okay, so Goldfarb established this based on the Hippocratic Oath.
00:46:23.140So the senior fellows are appointments within the organization to work on specific issues.
00:46:32.460And I've been very lucky to be able to be on both sides of the house.
00:46:37.860So I mentioned that Dr. Goldfarb started the organization to restore medicine to meritocracy and to taking care of patients, taking care of that individual human, doing the best you can for them, not being concerned about their skin color or their ethnicity or their heritage, but taking care of that patient.
00:46:59.260And then the organization expanded to combat this harmful, radical gender ideology and to protect minors from this gender ideology, this pathway, this silver bullet that we talk about with the social affirmations, the puberty blockers, the cross-sex hormones, and then these awful mutilative surgeries.
00:47:22.400So we've got both sides there, and I'm in the position to work on both sides on both issues.
01:13:58.160We have a link to the database right at the top of our website.
01:14:02.140We encourage people to join us as a member and to get involved, get connected with our communications.
01:14:10.280And we can then help people reach out to local policymakers, reach out to these hospitals and medical providers and start putting some pressure to stop this harm.
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