495. The CIA, Corruption, and the Biden Heirs ｜ Miranda Devine
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Miranda Devine is a journalist for the New York Post and she broke the laptop story which was widely dismissed as Russian misinformation by a cabal of ex-intelligence agents and operatives. She s continued her work investigating the machinations of the deep state in her new book, The Big Guy, which continues her documentation of the Biden family and deep state saga. In this episode, we discuss: Why Joe Biden has been sidelined by the Deep State The role of the legacy media What s going on with Kamala Harris and her campaign and why she should win the 2020 Democratic primary Who are the real deep state members of the 51 signatories to the so-called "Blue Book"? And why should we care about them? Is she a serious contender to become the next president of the United States or is she just another front runner in the Democratic primary for the 2020 election? And what role does she play in the ongoing effort to elect a woman to replace Joe Biden as president? What role does her family play in that process? Why does she have a shot at the nomination? and who are the other potential candidates she could run against? All of this and more in this episode of Conspiracy Theories, hosted by Jordan Peterson and Alex Blumberg. . Recorded in Los Angeles, CA. Sponsored by Kraken, Kraken, the crypto-dividend company that makes Bitcoin, Bitcoin, and other crypto-currencies available for you to trade on Kraken and Kraken's vault-based crypto-trading services. Can t get much better than that? Can't get more crypto-ranchedrific than this? . . . Can you do better than this?! ? Learn more about your ad choices? Download my free video series on the best deals on Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies? Subscribe to my YouTube channel? (RATE $5 and get 20% off your first month of ad-free membership when you shop at KRAKE? I'll be giving away $5 or $10 or more when you become a member of my ad-only membership gets $5,000 and get 5 VIP membership? You'll get 5% off my VIP membership offer starts starting in 7 days and I'll get 7 months of VIP access to KRAKETEPROMO, $10,000 gets 5,000 PRODUCED?
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So I had the opportunity today to speak once again to Miranda Devine.
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Now, you may remember and you may not that I spoke to Miranda about her last book, Laptop from Hell.
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She has a new one called The Big Guy, which continues her documentation of the Biden family and deep state saga.
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Miranda is a journalist for the New York Post and she broke the laptop story,
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which was very rapidly dismissed as Russian misinformation by a cabal of ex-intelligence agents and operatives
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and was also suppressed on Twitter and Facebook and other venues.
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And Miranda has continued her work investigating the machinations of the deep state in her new book, The Big Guy.
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That and Trump derangement syndrome and the role of the legacy media, the transforming role of the legacy media,
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the role of the New York Post in being an advocate for center right, genuine journalism.
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I think I released our first podcast on the 4th of October and that was Laptop from Hell,
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And I thought after delving through your book, delving into your book and through the associated material online,
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It tells a pretty, it tells an appalling story, all things considered,
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and one that hasn't produced nearly as much scandal as it should have,
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especially given the intelligence community's insistence,
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that infamous document of 51 signatories claiming that that was Russian disinformation.
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I really thought that was the crooked most, that was the crookedest political move that I've seen in the American landscape in my entire lifetime.
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And so I thought it'd be real interesting to have you walk us through that.
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First thing I'd like to ask maybe is, you know, obviously Biden has been sidelined
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and we could talk about that in some detail because what the hell?
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Well, and so viewers might be interested first in, well, why, you know, why should we bother with this?
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Because he's now a bit player in a defunct drama.
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And so why don't you start with that and then let's move into the book per se.
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Look, it's important because the very same people, that sort of unaccountable cabal of the intelligence community,
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the CIA, the FBI, the State Department and so on that have protected Joe Biden for so long
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and his family from the consequences of their greed are the same people who are propping up Kamala Harris now.
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And you see that because there is an overlap between the signatories of that dirty 51 letter that you just mentioned
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from the former intelligence officials falsely claiming that the laptop was a Russian disinformation operation.
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There's about nine of them who also signed onto a letter claiming that Kamala Harris was the most capable
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So let's talk about some of the markers of success.
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Fame in and of itself is not a bad marker for success.
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Not everyone who's famous is useful and not everyone who isn't famous is useless.
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Why is there a small percentage of hyper-successful men who are willing to sacrifice everything in pursuit of that success?
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It's like if you intervene at the right time, you don't need to use power.
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It also integrates the idea of the journey and the idea of the destination.
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And so there now you have a definition of success.
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And why should we inform ourselves about the extent of the Biden family's misdoing?
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Like once he's out of office, his family is off the national and international stage.
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We're going to turn our attention either to a Harris presidency, God preserve us,
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or to a Trump presidency, which will be devastatingly interesting.
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Okay, so tell us about those signatories, those additional nine.
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Tell us what you make of the shadowy figures, so to speak.
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It always sounds like a right-wing conspiracy, doesn't it, that surround the Biden presidency
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and that would be influential with regards to a Harris presidency.
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Tell us what you make of that and what you've discovered.
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Well, the biggest story, I think, just like in Watergate, is the story of the cover-up and who's
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And I think the best way of seeing who they are and what their agenda is, is to look at
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the comparative presidencies and particularly in foreign policy of Joe Biden and Donald Trump
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and even Barack Obama, I think the agenda of this cabal, what the Obama people used to call the blob,
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which was the CIA, the Pentagon and the State Department, what Donald Trump calls the deep state.
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These people view Donald Trump as an existential threat, not to America or democracy, as we're
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always told, but to them and their power and control over the presidency, which they have
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Certainly, you can see it in their foreign policy agenda that was run by Obama and Biden.
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When Donald Trump came in, he, just as a property developer from Queens, approached every problem
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that way from first principles using logic and common sense.
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What's the most effective and efficient way of dealing with it?
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And for example, when he first arrived in the White House, he had a meeting with Barack
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Obama, who told him the biggest problem facing the United States is North Korea, because they
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keep on setting off these sort of nuclear tests.
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And so, Donald Trump set about fixing that, and he was mocked mercilessly for his bromance
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with Kim Jong-un and for calling him Little Rocket Man and so on.
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And he successfully charmed or threatened Kim Jong-un, and Kim Jong-un was in his box.
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Similarly, with Vladimir Putin, you didn't see Putin invading his neighbours like he did
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under Obama and like he did under Biden immediately.
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And Trump was sort of belligerent and charming at the same time with Putin.
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And he tells the story of saying to Putin something along the lines of, you know, I like those
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And Putin and the other gangsters around the world, like President Xi, weren't quite sure
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You know, he wielded, obviously, the mightiest military in the world.
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And was he crazy enough, you know, unpredictable, he seemed, to actually follow through on his
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And he did in, you know, he talks about peace through strength, but he was not afraid to
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Iran, for instance, was on its knees under Trump.
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They weren't able to fund these proxies to go and attack Israel like they did last October
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And, of course, as soon as Joe Biden came in, they enriched Iran, reanimated the Iran nuclear
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But we saw these horrific videos of ISIS, you know, burning alive a Jordanian pilot in an
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orange jumpsuit in a cage, killing other people in these most horrific and torturing ways
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for public consumption, lowering a cage into a swimming pool with, I think, two.
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And Donald Trump vanquished ISIS, never got much credit for it because we all forgot that
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And in the Middle East, he had the glimmerings of peace that had eluded so many presidents
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before him with the Abraham Accords, for which he never really got much credit either.
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So just in this practical, no-nonsense way, he did better on the world stage than his predecessors
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But that earned him the enmity of this cabal because he was not following their agenda.
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And that's because Donald Trump is uncontrollable.
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And that's his great strength and maybe his weakness as well.
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Even as a child, he talks about, he calls himself rambunctious and says that his parents
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at one point sent him to aptitude testing to, in his words, find out what's wrong with him.
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And his father was quite disappointed with the results.
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He's very extroverted and he's very high in openness and he's somewhat disagreeable.
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And so he's going to be a handful as a kid because all of that means headstrong, highly
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And my sense with Trump is that he's relatively compassionate despite his low politeness and
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So this cabal that you're describing, do you want to, why don't you walk us through the
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Well, I know, for example, that the people who formulated the Abraham Accords faced an
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awful lot of, well, certainly skepticism and perhaps outright resistance from the State
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Department because the received wisdom at the State Department was, well, first of all,
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And second of all, that it was particularly impossible if it didn't include Palestine because
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Palestine had to be first and foremost in any peace agreement.
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And that just turned out to be complete bloody nonsense.
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And then what is it that you think they're protecting or attempting to accomplish for themselves?
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I'm very curious, for example, about your understanding of the Russia-Ukraine war because
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there's untold tens of billions of dollars being dumped into that state.
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And anyone with any sense understands at minimum, regardless of their stance with regard to the
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war, that Ukraine was one of the most corrupt states in Europe, which is really saying something
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And God only knows where that money is going, seriously.
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You mentioned actors in a general sense, the CIA, the Pentagon, perhaps the FBI.
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Who are these people and what is it that they want?
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I just have a vague sense, just pulling back, for instance, the way that they have expended
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so much energy in demonising Russia and while taking their eyes off China, at least the public
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I can only think that considering that Russia, you know, as a tiny GDP is really not a threat
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to the United States, whereas China is and is aggressively imperialistic in its actions and
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that the Bidens were in fact part of the Belt and Road Initiative, which is President Xi's imperialist
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plan to, I guess, take over the world or at least to ensnare small countries in debt traps and plunder
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And as he's doing aggressively in the South China, in the South China Sea, militarising those
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islands, Joe Biden as vice president was actually supposedly meant to stop that and stop China
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And instead, when he went to Beijing in December of 2013, he brought along his son, Hunter, and
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And none of the aims that Joe Biden should have had on behalf of America were accomplished,
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but Hunter Biden certainly made money out of that trip.
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So, I feel that there is a reason that they don't want the American people to be focused
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And so, when I say the cabal or the blob, the CIA, the Pentagon, the FBI, the Department
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of State, the Department of Justice, and in the Hunter Biden investigation case, the IRS were
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all involved in the protection of Joe Biden, but I think also in the grooming of Joe Biden
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very early on when he came into the Senate at the age of 30 as a very green person without
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He was really just a small-time grifter from Delaware, but a man on the make and very ambitious
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So, the fact that he was identified early on and placed on the most powerful committee
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in the Senate, which was the Foreign Relations Committee, where for a decade, he was either
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chairman or ranking member, you know, as his career evolved.
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I think that there were powerful mentors behind him who decided that, like maybe Tim Walz, that
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he was someone worth cultivating who would be a useful puppet for them in the future.
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And like Tim Walz, that very young Senator Biden went to China.
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He was wined and dined there on the equivalent of Martha's Vineyard by the leading lights of
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the CCP and came back just full of admiration and waxing lyrical about how wonderful China
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So maybe it is that they want to make us look at Russia as the existential threat, which is
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Which makes me think that there is a substantial amount of money.
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Wall Street is involved in this cabal, that their interests are being served.
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And, you know, RFK Jr. and others talk about the military-industrial complex and the money
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that they get out of pursuing these foreign wars.
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When it comes to Russia and Ukraine, you know, the people that were protecting Joe Biden in
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this, the blob, they turned a blind eye to his corruption.
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He was, as vice president, flying into Kiev regularly and lecturing the Ukrainians on the
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But the Ukrainian people knew that his son was sitting on the board of Burisma, the most
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corrupt company in the most corrupt country in Europe.
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Hunter Biden was being paid a million dollars a year by this energy company, despite the fact
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that he was, at the time, had a raging crack addiction and didn't have any expertise in
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So, you know, it seems that the quid pro quo for Joe to do the bidding of the blob, and
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he was very much a warmonger throughout his history in the Senate and the Foreign Relations
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He was always about enlarging NATO, having particularly Georgia and Ukraine join NATO,
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And, you know, Vladimir Putin has been very explicit about the way Russia views that NATO
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So Joe Biden was happy to go along with all these things.
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And I feel like the quid pro quo for him and his family was that they were allowed to get
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So do you have any sense of the extent of the Biden family wealth holdings?
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I mean, I don't remember if I gathered this information from your book on the laptop, but
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My understanding is that the Bidens have surrounded themselves with a very complex network of shell
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companies and that much money from foreign business dealings has been shunted through.
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those companies and that that involves extended members of the Biden family, most particularly,
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I guess this all centers at least to some degree on Hunter.
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And so what have you found out about the extent of the Biden family foreign holdings?
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And then I guess I'm also curious as to what either implicit or explicit laws have been
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violated in consequence of this additional financial activity.
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I mean, it's, it was strange to me, of course, going through laptop from hell to understand
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that Hunter Biden had come along with his father on his foreign affairs voyages.
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His first reason being, Hunter was not exactly behaving in an admirable manner at that point with regards to his personal habits, let's say.
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But that is, and so that was unwise for someone in the position of Joe to Brooke.
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If his son hadn't cleaned up his act personally and was all, you know, crack and hookers, maybe he wasn't the appropriate companion for businesses or for trips that involved extraordinarily high stakes for the American people and the world.
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And then second, like, why, how in the world is it that business is being conducted at the same time?
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Like, what sort of amounts of money are we speaking about over what period of time?
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And then, well, what do you, what do you see as relevant with regards to the ethical and legal issues here?
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Well, I'll take my information from the Republican investigation in the House, the impeachment investigation of Joe Biden.
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They had the suspicious activity reports from all the banks.
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So they did quite a good job of following the money trail during Joe's vice presidency.
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And they found around about $30 million, not a huge amount of money for really having a president who's compromised, certainly in the eyes of China.
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And so, you know, there may be more, but they didn't find it.
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And, you know, for Joe Biden himself, there was really very little.
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They found two checks for $200,000, which were about 10% of a deal that Jim Biden had been involved with, with Hunter, a couple of deals.
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And so that was interesting because among the emails on the laptop is an email that talks about divvying up the equity in one particular Chinese deal.
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And they talk about 10% for the big guy, which was the nickname or the code name that Hunter Biden's business partners used for Joe Biden.
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And so these two $200,000 checks, they came from Jim Biden in a very convoluted fashion to Joe Biden.
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And they were sort of, the money was deposited into Jim Biden's account.
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And then his wife took it out, moved it to another account, took it in cash, put it into a check.
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It was, it was, it looked as if someone is trying to cover their tracks.
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Finally, there's a check written out to Joe Biden.
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And the Republicans, the Republican investigators were never able to prove that it was anything other than a loan.
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The White House maintained that Joe Biden had lent his brother, Jim Biden, who was always falling on hard times,
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lent him money because he was being generous and that Jim Biden just repaid that money as he should have.
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So I can't say any more than that, other than there is some evidence on the laptop that I mentioned in the first book that Hunter Biden was funding Joe Biden,
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that he was paying some of his bills for the sort of maintenance and upkeep of his estate in Delaware.
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Things like a painting and putting in a retaining wall and new air conditioning in a cottage on the grounds, new shutters, those sort of bills, you know, a few thousand here and a few thousand there.
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And the only other thing I could find was that Hunter Biden was paying for a cell phone of Joe Biden's paying for the bill.
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So, you know, apart from that, I think Joe Biden was financially benefiting because the money that Hunter Biden was getting from various sources,
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including from Joe Biden's Delaware donors, was being used to pay family bills that otherwise Joe Biden might have been liable for,
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like, for instance, to Hunter Biden's tuition and also his brother Beau's tuition at university, which Hunter complained bitterly about having to pay.
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Okay, so the evidence directly linking Joe to untrackable payments, let's say, is relatively trivial by your own testimony.
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This $30 million that you referred to, what exactly is that?
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So that would be around $20 million or, you know, $20 to $25 million from China, mainly from this company, CEFC,
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which was the capitalist arm of the Belt and Road Initiative.
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Hunter was sort of actually seemed that he'd been scouted and groomed by CEFC from a couple of different directions.
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They targeted him through a parent at his daughter's school on the one hand.
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And so he and his business partners in the last two years of Joe Biden's vice presidency were doing work for CEFC around the world in sort of opening doors.
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Because by that stage, the Belt and Road Initiative was a little on the nose and the countries were reluctant to take China's money because they had seen how other countries had been sort of damaged and compromised by China.
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So having the Biden name, Joe Biden, the esteemed vice president, having his name attached in joint ventures with CEFC was very beneficial for them and allowed them to make inroads into countries where the Chinese alone might otherwise have had a problem.
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So now the payments, apart from, actually, no, even the diamonds, the payments, including a diamond to Hunter Biden, were only paid after Joe Biden left to the vice presidency.
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So some of it has gone to various other family members.
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Hallie Biden, Hunter Biden's lover, the widow of his brother, Beau.
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But mostly it went up Hunter Biden's nose or down his throat with the crack pipe, the hookers and so on.
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He had enormous alimony payments to his ex-wife as well.
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He, you know, he would have long benders at Chateau Marmont in L.A.
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I think some of the money, there's a company called BHR that early in Joe Biden's vice presidency, that was the 10% stake that Hunter Biden got on that trip to Beijing with his father on Air Force Two.
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In December of 2013, that may be worth several million dollars.
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But Hunter had to hand over ownership of that to Kevin Morris, the mysterious Hollywood attorney who Hunter's business partners call the Sugar Brother, who really funded Hunter Biden's lifestyle in the last few years from 2020.
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He paid off a lot of the problems that Hunter had that would have damaged Joe Biden's campaign, like his ex-wife was not getting paid, like paying off the IRS.
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His ex-wife had liens on her property and also she couldn't get a passport because of these IRS problems.
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So Kevin Morris managed to pay that off and also funded the child support that Hunter had to pay to a woman in Arkansas who had his baby and had to file a paternity suit to prove through DNA that it was Hunter's son.
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And then had to sue him for child support and the ex-wife's problems and the baby mama's problems were both set to blow up in 2020 and the end of 2019 and damaged Joe Biden's campaign.
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So Kevin Morris comes in, you know, the knight in shining armor and takes care of all these problems so they never become an issue for Joe Biden.
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And he continued to fund Hunter Biden until just recently to the tune of he's testified, Kevin Morris, about six million dollars and he calls it a loan to Hunter Biden.
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But I'm looking at it, I mean, it could be as much as 10 million dollars.
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So the money is garnered through these backroom deals with foreign companies and then fundamentally squandered.
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Squandered apart from this little BHR amount, we don't know how much it's worth, but now Kevin Morris owns BHR.
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So I suppose that's a down payment on all the money that he's given or loaned to Hunter.
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But the other interesting thing about Kevin Morris is that when the IRS investigators looking into Hunter Biden's business dealings wanted to interview Kevin Morris and also there was an FBI investigation into whether the money that Kevin had given to Hunter was in violation of federal election laws,
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because it was a donation in kind, potentially to Joe Biden's campaign, whenever they tried to look into Kevin Morris, the prosecutors told them no.
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And finally, the IRS investigators were told by their prosecution team that the CIA had intervened, had summoned the prosecutors to Langley CIA headquarters and told them that Kevin Morris was off limits as a witness, that they couldn't interview him.
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But the only thing is that the CIA is always a shadowy presence in this Biden tale of corruption.
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Wherever Hunter Biden falls into peril, this sort of invisible hand reaches in to save him.
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A couple of his business partners were approached to work for the CIA.
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Devon Archer tells me this, to work for the CIA, I guess makes sense.
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It's, you know, they were travelling around the world, liaising with people the CIA was interested in.
00:34:13.820
Hunter Biden, before he joined the Burisma board, was placed on the board of a CIA cutout.
00:34:24.240
It's the democratic arm of an outfit called the National Endowment for Democracy, which is very strange.
00:34:35.920
And it's rather peculiar because it is a prestigious position.
00:34:42.040
But I always wondered if it was sort of to signal that he was under the protection of the CIA when he was travelling around Ukraine.
00:34:51.580
I mean, he never went to Ukraine, but when he was involved with people in Ukraine.
00:34:55.000
And so the CIA's involvement in a lot of this story just pops up and is intriguing.
00:35:05.360
We talked about the Dirty 51 letter from the 51 former intelligence officials.
00:35:15.160
In fact, many of them still are active contractors, even if they've retired.
00:35:19.560
And that letter was instigated by Antony Blinken, who now is the Secretary of State, but at that point was a senior campaign official for Joe Biden.
00:35:34.180
And he called a guy called Mike Morell, who had been acting director of the CIA and was hoping to be CIA director under Joe Biden.
00:35:45.080
And Morell has testified that Antony Blinken put the idea for writing the letter into his brain.
00:35:53.380
We know that because Mike Morell has testified to that.
00:35:59.060
But Mike Morell has said under oath that he never had the idea until Antony Blinken called him.
00:36:05.520
And in fact, there is an email that was procured by the congressional investigators from Antony Blinken a few hours after the phone call to Mike Morell.
00:36:17.160
And it was a USA Today article, which was anonymously sourced, probably from the same people that signed the letter, claiming that Hunter Biden's laptop was Russian disinformation.
00:36:29.340
And so it was obvious to Mike Morell what he had to do.
00:36:32.620
Okay, so let's go down that rabbit hole for a minute.
00:36:38.480
You know, Trump has been claiming since the last election that the election was stolen.
00:36:46.800
And the court cases that have made themselves manifest in consequence of his investigations have generally found against him, at least at the local level.
00:37:01.040
And so it seems to me that he diagnosed the problem correctly, but specified the level of corruption poorly.
00:37:10.040
Now, this is my understanding of the situation.
00:37:13.060
And so you tell me if you think I've got it right.
00:37:16.800
So Twitter censored the New York Post when the laptop story was broken.
00:37:25.580
And that was a big deal because it was – and Facebook.
00:37:35.300
And so we don't know what effect on the election, which was a very close election, that censorship had.
00:37:46.980
And we know that these 51 people signed a letter claiming that that was all Russian disinformation.
00:37:54.940
Which – and that word, by the way, that's a word I hate, disinformation and misinformation.
00:37:58.900
I think that those words – anybody who uses those words to indicate the presence of untrustworthy information is immediately suspect in my eyes.
00:38:09.540
Because those are propagandistic weasel words of the highest possible order.
00:38:16.420
It's like, first of all, who the hell decides that?
00:38:21.400
But in any case, Russian disinformation, okay, that was an outright lie.
00:38:27.240
And that's 51 intelligence community agents who signed that letter.
00:38:32.700
And so I don't understand why that isn't traitorous in the most fundamental manner.
00:38:42.920
It's a lie that casts aspersions on a country that the West is now at war with.
00:38:50.280
And, as far as I'm concerned, tilted the election in a manner that can't be easily quantified.
00:39:02.620
And what do you think Trump will and should do if he's elected with these people?
00:39:14.960
You know, and why isn't this 50 times the scandal that it has been?
00:39:20.280
This makes Watergate look like a backstory, as far as I'm concerned.
00:39:32.440
You have the story right, but you don't quite have the full enormity of it.
00:39:36.800
Because that letter had to get cleared very quickly by a classification review board within
00:39:44.680
the CIA, they saw how political the letter was, and they realised that it needed to go upstairs.
00:39:51.120
So, they sent it up to Gina Haspel, the CIA director at the time under Donald Trump,
00:39:58.140
via her number three, the chief operating officer who's testified to this.
00:40:02.440
So, Gina Haspel greenlit that letter and allowed it to be published.
00:40:06.920
When the CIA knew full well that this laptop was not Russian disinformation, because the
00:40:13.900
FBI had had it for 10 months in their possession.
00:40:17.060
The FBI very quickly had ascertained that it belonged to Hunter Biden, that it had not been
00:40:22.780
tampered with, and that the evidence on it was fit to be used in court as evidence.
00:40:27.920
And that's exactly what happened in June this year, when Hunter Biden was convicted by a
00:40:33.720
jury, in part based on the evidence on the laptop for this gun problem.
00:40:39.940
So, you know, that was a CIA domestic election interference operation.
00:40:47.400
That was not just these formers, these former intelligence officials, as we've been told.
00:40:53.060
This was greenlit, this was waved through by the CIA director, Gina Haspel.
00:41:00.140
And, you know, many of these CIA people, the 42 of the 51 who signed that letter, they were
00:41:12.640
They refuse to respond to the, you know, any of our entreaties to explain themselves, maybe
00:41:20.840
to apologize for what they did once it became clear that this wasn't Russian disinformation.
00:41:32.180
I mean, this is, I just can't wrap my head around this story.
00:41:36.920
It's, so, it really confuses me because, you know, I've, I have some people on the Democrat
00:41:44.000
side that I communicate with, with some degree of regularity.
00:41:47.300
And their response to Trump's allegations of election fixing during the last election was
00:41:53.200
that, well, he tried his case in court in multiple jurisdictions and all of the allegations
00:42:02.640
But then I look at it, see, Trump strikes me as one of those people who puts his finger
00:42:06.920
on things at a kind of a low resolution level that's accurate.
00:42:14.920
And so I think he went about his skepticism incorrectly.
00:42:19.700
And it was also very striking to me during his debate with Harris that the laptop issue
00:42:27.180
and the letter never reared their heads to any great degree.
00:42:31.620
And he's never really used that as the primary evidence that the election was interfered with.
00:42:39.200
But the election was interfered with because the laptop contained damning information, not
00:42:45.640
least with regards to the timing of its release.
00:42:49.140
It's like, what the hell was Hunter doing dropping off three laptops a week before his father announced
00:42:56.940
Like, psychologically, that's seriously suspect.
00:42:59.680
Then the laptops turned out to be real and they're pretty damn ugly.
00:43:03.540
I mean, seriously, not only on the business corruption side, but on the personal corruption
00:43:11.440
Like, I felt like, you know, several showers after reading Laptop from Hell.
00:43:15.900
And I have some insight into what kind of character it requires to do the things that he does.
00:43:22.440
Like the whole crack and hooker thing, that's just not that cool.
00:43:26.020
And the affair with his brother's wife and the uploading of the sexual acts that he committed
00:43:32.420
with her to Pornhub under the rubric Lonely Widow.
00:43:36.340
Do you know how bloody demented and twisted you have to be and angry and bitter and resentful
00:43:41.820
and full of hate you have to be to do something like that?
00:43:45.040
That's just, that's the sort of place you don't want to go to investigate.
00:43:53.840
And then to have these former intelligence agents claim that this was a false and that
00:44:07.280
One, that it's false, one, to associate it with the Russians who had nothing to do with
00:44:12.820
it, and then to pull the wool over the eyes of the American people, and then to conspire
00:44:18.220
with Twitter and Facebook right before an election to censor a major American newspaper who was
00:44:31.700
So, I also don't understand why Trump hasn't made more of that.
00:44:36.000
Like, that could have dominated the debate he had with Harris, for example.
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And you're also, you know, you're also making a case now that it wasn't just former CIA agents,
00:45:47.680
let's say, but active CIA agents, and that they all knew exactly what they were doing.
00:45:53.300
And, you know, there are also among the signatories, there were five former CIA directors or acting
00:45:59.020
directors, people like John Brennan, who was involved in the original Russiagate hoax,
00:46:04.600
which crippled the first few years of Donald Trump's presidency.
00:46:08.820
Leon Panetta, who also signed the letter saying that Kamala Harris is, you know,
00:46:14.860
the most capable, much better than Donald Trump to be commander in chief.
00:46:19.680
And, you know, you talk about the censorship of the New York Post stories before the election.
00:46:26.060
That was, we thought initially just Twitter and Facebook, but it was the FBI.
00:46:31.040
The FBI had pre-bunked our story in meetings with the Facebook and Twitter executives in the
00:46:40.800
They warned them before our story came out to look out for a Russian hack and leak operation,
00:46:46.800
likely in October, and likely involving Hunter Biden.
00:46:54.420
And so he's on his iCloud for a foreign agent registration violation investigation,
00:47:06.940
He thinks, Rudy Giuliani thinks that the FBI was actually spying on him to spy on Donald Trump.
00:47:13.960
But unfortunately for them, Donald Trump doesn't text very much.
00:47:19.400
But they would have seen the email that came to Rudy Giuliani in August of 2020 from John Paul
00:47:29.040
MacIsaac, who was the laptop repair shop owner.
00:47:31.740
And he, it was a very detailed and forensic email going through, particularly on Ukraine
00:47:39.840
and Burisma, but all the crimes and concerns for national security he had from what he'd
00:47:49.760
And if the people who, in the cabal, who are taking care of Joe Biden, protecting him, if
00:47:58.180
they'd seen that email, they would have been quite concerned about it.
00:48:03.320
And they would have had eyes on Giuliani and known that this story would probably get to
00:48:09.860
So they put all their ducks in a row to make sure that when that story did come out, inevitably,
00:48:16.660
that they could immediately kibosh it, immediately squash it.
00:48:20.340
And they did a very good job of that with just three weeks left to the election.
00:48:24.900
It was already the fact that Twitter and Facebook throttled our accounts, actually locked the
00:48:31.960
New York Post account for until just for two weeks, until a few days before the election,
00:48:39.020
And then the Dirty 51 letter that completely killed the story stone dead.
00:48:45.020
And Mike Murrell, who wrote that letter, he writes in emails to colleagues that the reason
00:48:52.000
for the letter is to give Joe Biden a talking point in the debate coming up against Donald
00:48:58.380
So that was a specific political operation instigated by the Biden campaign and carried out by the
00:49:08.860
Yeah, well, it's hard to even know what to say about that.
00:49:15.820
OK, so now Hunter Biden has fallen off the media radar.
00:49:25.440
It's like, so Joe Biden is too cognitively impaired to be the candidate for the next presidency.
00:49:35.500
So that's and now and we don't hear anything about Joe Biden.
00:49:39.960
I mean, it's not surprising in some ways because of all the election hype.
00:49:47.320
And so hearing something about him from time to time would seem to be appropriate.
00:49:53.780
And then the same as far as I'm concerned is true of Hunter.
00:49:57.800
It's like he was in a trial and he was sentenced.
00:50:01.640
I don't even know what happened in consequence of that.
00:50:04.780
Like, what is the what is the what is Hunter Biden's status at the moment?
00:50:10.280
And what do you make of the fact that Joe Biden has vanished into the ether during this
00:50:18.500
Well, Hunter Biden was convicted in June of gun felonies in Delaware by a jury.
00:50:24.600
He's awaiting sentencing, which is after the election.
00:50:33.580
And then in September, he pleaded guilty on the first day of his felony tax fraud trial
00:50:42.840
And so, again, sentencing will be after the election.
00:50:45.980
And I'm told, at least on the tax fraud by the IRS whistleblowers, that that would carry
00:50:54.620
for Hunter significant jail time, at least a couple of years.
00:50:58.780
So no doubt Joe Biden will pardon Hunter after the election before January 20.
00:51:06.860
And even though Joe Biden has said that he wouldn't do that, there's no doubt that he will do that.
00:51:12.860
And he will get a free pass from the media who will say, well, this is his only surviving son
00:51:27.660
I mean, this is very convenient to the Harris campaign because she needs to distance herself
00:51:34.300
as vice president from the disasters of the Biden-Harris administration, you know, the economy,
00:51:43.100
the inflation pressures that people are feeling, and also the 10 to 20 million illegal migrants
00:51:50.040
that are flooded over the border, and, you know, among them, murderers, rapists, and terrorists.
00:51:57.720
And the American people in every corner of this country where these illegal migrants have been
00:52:03.560
flown into by the administration to, you know, pretend that there's no overcrowding issue at the border,
00:52:10.340
every town and city in this country is affected.
00:52:15.080
And we saw that in the Springfield, Ohio dramas that Donald Trump quite cleverly brought to the fore
00:52:21.580
when he talked about eating the cats and eating the dogs or eating the pets.
00:52:26.960
So I think that the media, of course, is complicit with most of them, with the Democrats, I call them,
00:52:35.740
So they will do whatever helps the Harris campaign, and that is just to disappear Joe Biden,
00:52:41.360
who'd become so unpopular with the American people that there was no way that he would win the election,
00:52:47.960
which I assume is really why they ousted him from re-election.
00:52:53.640
He had no chance of winning, and Donald Trump was doing very well in the polls.
00:53:00.000
And I think Donald Trump's actually regained the momentum he had against Joe Biden and has
00:53:06.240
successfully tied Kamala Harris to the disasters of the Biden-Harris administration.
00:53:13.900
But also she herself has been a really dud candidate, so she hasn't been able to rescue the situation.
00:53:20.180
So that's, and the thing about Joe Biden is that he is still president.
00:53:25.640
He's president until January 20 of next year, and there's a lot of serious problems happening in the
00:53:36.520
So when Israel just recently fired, you know, started attacking Iran, which is a pretty big deal,
00:53:48.960
He was holing out in his home in Delaware, as he often does, and there was nothing from Kamala Harris.
00:53:57.460
There was just a statement saying, well, you know, good luck to Israel, I guess.
00:54:02.240
So they're not behaving as a proper administration, and the cabal that controlled Joe Biden and will
00:54:10.940
control Kamala Harris, I guess they're the ones in control.
00:54:14.000
Yeah, so how do you understand the successful removal of Joe Biden?
00:54:27.500
I presume he could have said no, but he didn't.
00:54:31.640
Like, how are we to understand the fact that he was president one day and the presidential
00:54:41.760
I mean, how much of that do you think is, let's say, the reality of his cognitive decline,
00:54:49.480
which we still know really nothing about, as far as I can tell?
00:54:53.460
It seemed so self-evident that it was undeniable, but I'm not even sure what to make of that,
00:55:02.320
given the evidence that the Democrats also potentially concluded that Biden was unelectable.
00:55:08.080
And that was partly because of the evidence of his cognitive decline.
00:55:11.160
But what do we make of the fact that he was so unceremoniously dumped?
00:55:17.740
I mean, that seems to me to indicate that the sense that there are a multitude of forces
00:55:23.580
operating behind the scenes, so to speak, is accurate.
00:55:28.560
You know, it was evident, as you say, that Joe Biden had cognitive problems from, you
00:55:34.660
know, I was in Iowa and New Hampshire in the 2020 election earlier that year, and it was
00:55:41.620
clear then to everybody in a room that saw him struggling to read just regular stump speeches
00:55:50.420
But he was protected, his cognitive issues were covered up.
00:55:56.200
But what a weapon to have to wield over the head of a president to control him if he didn't
00:56:04.480
And so I just felt, you know, every time he had to go out and do a big set piece like
00:56:09.220
the State of the Union or, you know, a G20 meeting or something, he performed okay.
00:56:15.720
You know, everyone was watching him, expecting him to stumble and blather, but he actually
00:56:22.060
So his cognitive problems seem to be intermittent, and maybe, you know, they're related to, he
00:56:28.220
had some brain aneurysms in the 1980s and brain surgery, that may be a factor.
00:56:34.940
But he certainly seems to have, and still has, times where he is compus mentis, and I don't
00:56:43.480
know whether that can be controlled, but they seem to be able to control it, the timing of
00:56:49.780
And yet when he did that debate against Donald Trump, it was as if he was let go out without
00:56:55.320
a safety net, without a tightrope, without whatever drugs that they normally gave him.
00:57:06.900
You know, he was there on the stage, blank-eyed, unable to form sentences.
00:57:14.260
So if you wanted to get rid of him, that would be the way to do it.
00:57:19.300
I don't know if that was deliberate or if it was an accident, but, you know, if you were
00:57:22.960
the people around him and you saw him in that state before he was going onto that stage that
00:57:28.860
night against Donald Trump with no notes and no teleprompter, surely you would have staged
00:57:33.900
an intervention and said, oh, he's got COVID or something, and stopped him going out there.
00:57:38.340
So they let him go out there and destroy himself.
00:57:41.860
And then he, for a couple of weeks, it seemed that he would hang on.
00:57:45.800
And I had some insight into the people in the background around his family, and they were
00:57:55.820
He was insisting that he was going to stay, and Hunter wanted him to stay.
00:58:03.900
And the reason he didn't was because the donors, about a week or so after the debate, rallied
00:58:10.600
around and just said, there is no way that they were going to support the Democratic Party
00:58:17.800
And what we found out about that in, actually, an article in the New York Times on September
00:58:24.800
24th was that Kamala Harris was part of that, because one of her best friends is Lorene Jobs,
00:58:34.220
She's a billionaire, the richest woman in America.
00:58:36.620
And she, according to the New York Times, got her staff member, who used to work for Barack
00:58:42.820
Obama, to do some focus group polling, which found that there was no way that Joe Biden could
00:58:49.260
And she circulated that damaging information around the other Democrat donors.
00:58:54.240
And after that, they put their foot down and said, Joe has to go.
00:58:58.180
Now, I don't think Joe Biden knew that until that New York Times article came out, because
00:59:04.260
straight after that article, he started bigfooting Kamala Harris and doing her damage.
00:59:12.020
There were two particular incidents that were notable.
00:59:15.120
One was that she had picked a fight with Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, over his
00:59:22.280
hurricane preparation, saying that he'd ignored a phone call from her.
00:59:29.060
And suddenly, Joe Biden pops up on camera and says, oh, you know, Ron DeSantis is a great
00:59:39.280
And, you know, he's very competent and everything's fine.
00:59:41.740
So that was really undermining Kamala Harris in a very obvious and embarrassing way in
00:59:47.960
And then there was another occasion around that time, which was Kamala Harris was on stage
00:59:56.000
And suddenly, Joe Biden strolls into the press room in the White House, where he has never
01:00:01.060
been in his entire presidency, and decides to take a press conference.
01:00:06.240
And he didn't really have much to say, other than that he and Kamala were locked at the hip.
01:00:18.820
And I guess he also wanted to make sure that Kamala didn't.
01:00:22.340
She was just about to take credit for the ending of the impending Longshoremen strike.
01:00:28.880
So I guess he didn't want her to take credit for that.
01:00:31.540
But I surmise from the timing of this that Joe Biden wasn't aware of Lorene Jobs' role
01:00:41.620
And knowing that Kamala Harris regarded Lorene Jobs as family, she brought her into the White
01:00:47.940
House when she was sworn in and as part of her family group.
01:00:53.160
And I think probably Joe Biden figured out that Kamala had sneakily stabbed him in the back.
01:01:02.440
And also telling her, don't you dare throw me under the bus.
01:01:07.800
Don't you dare start distancing yourself from my achievements.
01:01:13.120
There was some background reporting that he was very angry.
01:01:17.440
And Dr. Jill Biden was very angry about a speech that Kamala had given in Pittsburgh about economics.
01:01:25.240
And she hadn't once mentioned Bidenomics or paid tribute to Joe Biden.
01:01:33.660
And shortly after he big-footed her like that in those two occasions, she made probably the
01:01:38.680
biggest flaw mistake of her campaign, which was she went on air and she was asked, what
01:01:50.640
Yeah, right, which was an amazing, again, that just, my jaw has been open many times in
01:01:59.740
And that was certainly one of the events that caused that reaction.
01:02:06.560
And the first was, while she had been striving to present herself as someone who had a new
01:02:12.720
economic plan and to segregate herself from the Biden-Harris administration.
01:02:18.820
And at minimum, you would have expected the Democrats to be cynical and competent enough
01:02:29.160
Even if she believed, you know, even if she did believe that she would have done nothing
01:02:33.560
different, she should have been wise enough to have something to say that was a little
01:02:40.000
It was as if the question hadn't occurred to her.
01:02:42.480
You know, I think Joe Biden is, he's just a brilliant political strategist, a very cunning
01:02:53.740
And I think he's outsmarted all the Democrat brains trust and certainly outsmarted Kamala
01:03:01.060
To him, sure, he would like the Democrats to win.
01:03:05.800
But really, if Kamala Harris didn't win, he then stands alone as the man who managed to
01:03:12.600
vanquish Donald Trump when Hillary Clinton and Kamala Harris couldn't.
01:03:17.380
And also, he's vindicated in that he would have been a better candidate, that he should
01:03:25.180
So at minimum, he's a man with seriously mixed motivations.
01:03:45.140
I'm always, this is a terrible thing to say, but I'm going to say it anyways.
01:03:49.180
Well, I'm always, it's always a mystery to me to watch women who seek power.
01:03:55.980
However, there are advantages to men in seeking power that aren't there for women.
01:04:02.820
So, for example, power makes men very attractive to women, but power doesn't make women attractive
01:04:11.800
Like, if you looked at sociobiological differences between men and women, that's probably the
01:04:18.240
The correlation between socioeconomic success and sexual success for men is 0.7, which is
01:04:30.300
It is the biggest predictor of male success on the mating side by a huge margin.
01:04:40.240
And it might even be slightly negative because, well, because high-status women are intimidating
01:04:48.780
And so, what happens to high-status women is their mating pool shrinks.
01:04:53.380
It vastly expands for men and it shrinks for women.
01:04:56.700
Now, you know, people don't like biological views of human beings.
01:05:03.120
But one of the consequences for me, psychologically speaking, is I don't know what to make of women
01:05:13.540
You know, I mean, she was hell-bent on power for 50 years.
01:05:20.260
Now, she wanted, perhaps she wanted to go down in history as the woman's, as the, you
01:05:25.900
know, as the United States' first female president.
01:05:28.300
And I can understand that as an ambition, I suppose, to some degree.
01:05:33.120
But Kamala is a real mystery to me because it isn't obvious to me at all that she has
01:05:40.100
Like, she doesn't seem to me to have any interest in the administrative side of things, on the
01:05:49.300
Like, what is she after as far as you're concerned?
01:05:53.580
Now, maybe I'm asking you to speculate out of your bailiwick, but I'm, you know, you're
01:05:59.780
Like, what do you think she's, what drives her?
01:06:04.060
Other than, I think that she had a very clever mother and father, PhDs, and she was not academically
01:06:15.040
So maybe she wants to prove, even though her parent or her mother is no longer with us,
01:06:23.880
She doesn't seem actually to me to be particularly interested in power.
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She's more interested in the accumulation of status, I think, through her career.
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Like, is it a celebrity play rather than a power play?
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I mean, she seems a little shy to me, a little nervous.
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She doesn't really seem to enjoy any of these public outings that she does.
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You know, I've talked to friends of hers who say that she's really not dumb, but she thinks
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you're dumb, which may be why she speaks in these sort of baby talk.
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She always sounds like she's lecturing to a room full of retarded kindergarten children.
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And there's a terrible condescension that's associated with that.
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And people, even if she's not interested in power, if she presumes the idiocy of her audience,
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a contempt definitely, what will you say, makes itself present with that.
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And you don't guide people well when you're contemptuous of them.
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This is something Trump is very, Trump is very distinct from Harris in that regard.
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And I think distinct from the Democrat elite per se, who are very supercilious when it comes
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to the working class or even the middle class for that matter, especially if you think about
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Trump is not dismissive of ordinary people, so-called ordinary people.
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He's actually extremely good at interacting with people in a spontaneous way.
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And I don't think it's an act, because I don't think you can fake that.
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No, and people are also very sensitive, let's say, to slights that they might experience from
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their, from people who are higher up on the power hierarchy than they are, right?
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So you have to step very lightly if there is that gap in status to not offend people.
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And Harris, well, when she's over-explaining something painfully to idiots, that's a,
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that's a, she's on, she's entirely on the opposite side of the spectrum with regards
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to how she treats her, the people that she's dealing with.
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And do you notice how, when, when she's doing the lecturing, she adopts this very haughty
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It's, you know, I'm Queen, you know, Mary Antoinette sitting up here on my throne, looking
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And I think that's why the Democrat elite and she all hate Donald Trump, because he sort
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I think he really is, you know, his sensibility is with, you know, the average American.
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You know, he's fat and he has these earthy tastes and they despise him because how dare
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one of the, the, the, the deplorables, the hobbits, how dare they enter into the, the sanctuary
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Well, yeah, that's, that's definitely what it looks like to me.
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I think that's part of the cause of Trump derangement syndrome.
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It's, it's the absolute horror of the educated elite that someone as preposterous in taste and
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demeanour, so declassé as Donald Trump could possibly presume to, to put himself forward
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And, and isn't it appalling to watch all the fools who he's manipulated support him when
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we, the elite, are there to take care of everyone's needs and feather our own beds in the most appalling
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And unfortunately, because he's now surrounded himself with absolutely brilliant people like Elon Musk and J.D.
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Vance, RFK Jr., that confounds their theory of the case.
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Yeah, well, I just released a video last week talking about exactly that because, you know,
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Trump is a preposterous character in many ways.
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I mean, he's, he kind of reminds me of Colonel Tom Parker.
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You know, he's got this bigger than life salesy element that's really quintessentially American.
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I mean, and I'm not saying that in any derogatory sense because America is a powerhouse economically
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And it isn't, salesman culture isn't high class, right?
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But, hey, marketing and communication are necessary.
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I mean, maybe they're 85% of a successful business enterprise.
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And so, and then, you know, he scares people because he's got this kind of narcissistic element
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that goes along with that extremely high extroversion.
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And also this kind of impolite viciousness that's part of his sense of humor
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And so, there is a narcissistic tilt in Trump, although his personality is very complex.
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And he was president for four years and he didn't conduct himself on the international stage
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like a true narcissist would because narcissists would be perfectly happy to sacrifice American servicemen,
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But, even more importantly, perhaps, real narcissists don't share the stage with people like Elon Musk
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or J.D. Vance, for that matter, or Tulsi Gabbard or Kennedy, right?
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Because they're competitors for the public eye and they're competitors with regards to perceived competence as well.
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And maybe even perceived fame because certainly Musk exceeds Trump in, well,
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virtually every social comparison element that you could conjure up.
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It's very difficult to compete with Elon Musk and the fact that Trump is willing to share the stage with him
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and to listen to him mitigates, for me, against any—it's certainly one of the factors that mitigates
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any concerns about, let's say, like a truly malignant narcissism.
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And so, let's—I think we should probably move over to the Daily Wire side.
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I know what I want to talk to you about there, I think.
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So, for everybody who's watching and listening, I think I'd like to talk to you about
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how you and the New York Post, to some degree, managed to be something of a bastion of actual journalism
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in an absolute sea of sycophantic propaganda and what exactly that's been like.
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So, for everybody watching on the Daily Wire side, you want to—or who's planning to,
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you have to remember that it was Miranda and the New York Post people who broke the Hunter laptop story
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and suffered the consequences thereof and who have been diligently attempting something
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And so, I'm very curious about how—what that is like.
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And so, I think that's what we'll discuss on the Daily Wire side.
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So, everybody who's watching and listening, you could join us there.
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Miranda, is there anything else you want to bring to people's attention before we turn
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Not really, other than I think that it really is quite frightening that these same people in
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the CIA and the State Department and so on, the blob, are so implacably opposed to Donald Trump.
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And so, he's already suffered two assassination attempts.
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I just don't know to what lengths they will go to ensure that he never takes power again,
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because he's a lot older and wiser than he was.
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We're all less naive than we were back in 2020, now that we've seen unfold at least a portion
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of this agenda and the dirty tricks that were played on Donald Trump to make sure he didn't
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win in 2020, certainly by suppressing our story.
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And so, I think that they know that he will come in and clean them up.
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And he's got a good team behind him, including Elon, who will help him do that, who are loyal
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to him and smart and an RFK junior, for instance, who knows the, or at least has suspicions about
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the extent of the evil of the deep state in terms of what happened to his father and his uncle.
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So, Donald Trump poses an even greater threat than he did in 2020 to the blob.
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So, I don't know what they will do, but I think I would put nothing past them.
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It isn't obvious to me what Trump should do with those 51 people.
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Like, letting them off the, well, letting them off the hook certainly doesn't seem like
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You know, trying them for treason seems a lot more appropriate to me.
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And so, and maybe I'm not a lawyer and I don't even know if that's possible, but I haven't
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seen an act that reeks of treason more egregiously in my entire lifetime as a political observer.
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And so, that also does seem to me to indicate that there's some people who are going to
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feel that they're desperately being shunted into a corner from which there's no escape.
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And as you intimated, God only knows what people in that situation are capable of.
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Well, we'll go off to the Daily Wire side and we'll talk about doing journalism in a sea
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I mean, you guys at the New York Post, that's real journalism.