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00:01:52.380 So, one of the things that I've been realizing

00:01:59.160 as a consequence of going through these stories

00:02:03.000 is that the degree to which they're about individuals

00:02:08.520 is quite remarkable.

00:02:10.320 And I think that's really telling.

00:02:12.640 Now, one of the reasons I prefer Dostoevsky to Tolstoy

00:02:15.720 is because Tolstoy is more of a sociologist.

00:02:18.700 He's more interested in the relationship between groups of people.

00:02:22.780 This is an oversimplification because obviously Tolstoy is a great author.

00:02:26.300 But I like Dostoevsky better

00:02:28.480 because he really delves into the souls of individuals.

00:02:31.220 And I think it's remarkable the degree to which

00:02:34.520 all of the stories that we've covered so far in Genesis

00:02:39.240 are about individuals.

00:02:42.220 And they're quite realistic, which is quite remarkable too.

00:02:45.020 They're not really romanticized to any great degree

00:02:47.460 because all of the people that are regarded, let's say,

00:02:51.360 as patriarchal or matriarchal figures in Genesis

00:02:54.160 have no shortage of ethical flaws

00:02:59.420 and also no shortage of difficulties in their life.

00:03:01.960 And the difficulties are realistic.

00:03:03.540 They're major league problems, you know,

00:03:06.260 like familial catastrophes and famine and war

00:03:09.420 and revenge and hatred and all those things.

00:03:12.180 It's not a pretty book.

00:03:15.320 And that's one of the things that makes it great.

00:03:18.740 I mean, that's one of the things that characterizes great literature, right?

00:03:21.620 Is that it doesn't present you with a whitewashed view

00:03:24.480 of humanity or of existence.

00:03:28.420 And that's really a relief, I think,

00:03:30.360 because as you all know, because you're alive,

00:03:33.400 there's no such thing as a whitewashed existence.

00:03:36.620 Like you're...

00:03:38.000 To be alive is to be in trouble,

00:03:39.940 ethically and existentially.

00:03:45.320 I've been reading this book recently.

00:03:47.960 I'll talk about it a little bit later.

00:03:49.420 It's called Better Never to Have Been.

00:03:52.700 And it was written by a philosopher in South Africa,

00:03:56.020 in Cape Town, named Benatar.

00:03:57.880 That's his last name.

00:03:59.000 And he basically argues...

00:04:02.100 I think it's a specious argument

00:04:04.620 and I think it's artificially constructed.

00:04:07.840 But he basically argues that

00:04:09.520 because life is so full of suffering,

00:04:11.800 even good lives are very much full of suffering,

00:04:16.460 that it's wrong to bring children into the world

00:04:20.460 because the suffering outweighs the good,

00:04:22.640 even in good lives.

00:04:23.720 And it's actually wrong...

00:04:25.240 It would also be better not to exist

00:04:27.260 for exactly the same reason.

00:04:29.940 And my sense in reading the book

00:04:31.960 is that he came to that conclusion

00:04:33.400 and then wrote the book to justify it,

00:04:35.400 which is actually the reverse of the way

00:04:37.640 that you should write a book.

00:04:38.560 What you should do when you're writing a book

00:04:40.220 is you should have a question.

00:04:41.920 And you should...

00:04:42.740 It should be a real question, right?

00:04:44.240 It should be one you don't know the answer to.

00:04:46.360 And then you should be studying and writing like mad

00:04:49.280 and reading everything you can get your hands on

00:04:51.020 to see if you can actually grapple with the problem

00:04:53.640 and come to some solution.

00:04:54.920 And you should walk the reader as well

00:04:57.160 through your process of thinking

00:04:58.820 so that they can come to the...

00:05:01.040 Well, not necessarily to the same conclusion,

00:05:03.000 but at least track what you're doing.

00:05:05.120 And I don't think that's what he did.

00:05:06.540 I think he wrote it backwards.

00:05:07.680 But then...

00:05:08.960 And so I was thinking about it a lot

00:05:10.840 because that's actually a question

00:05:14.120 that I've contended with in my writing.

00:05:17.080 There are Mephistophelian or satanic figures,

00:05:20.700 for example, in Gertha's Faust.

00:05:23.120 And also Ivan in the Brothers Karamazov

00:05:25.980 who basically make the same case, you know,

00:05:28.700 that existence is so rife with trouble and suffering

00:05:32.280 that it would be better if it didn't exist at all.

00:05:35.520 And the problem I've had with that...

00:05:38.680 There's a variety of them.

00:05:39.720 But one of the problems I've had with that

00:05:41.320 is what happens if you start to think that way.

00:05:43.680 Because what I've observed

00:05:45.320 is that people who begin to think that way,

00:05:47.760 that isn't where they stop.

00:05:49.300 Like, they get angry at existence,

00:05:51.580 which is what happened to Cain,

00:05:52.680 as we saw in the Cain and Abel story.

00:05:54.220 And then the next step

00:05:55.780 is to start taking revenge against existence.

00:05:58.380 And that cascades until it's revenge against...

00:06:01.280 Well, I think the best way of thinking about it

00:06:03.040 is revenge against God for the crime of being.

00:06:05.840 Which is, I think, the deepest sort of hatred

00:06:07.660 that you can entertain.

00:06:09.880 And when you're in the grip of a really deep emotion,

00:06:12.860 like a really profound emotion,

00:06:14.760 right at the bottom of emotions,

00:06:16.340 you're in something that's like a quasi-religious state.

00:06:19.020 And that's more or less independent of your belief,

00:06:21.360 say, in a transcendent deity.

00:06:22.780 I mean, you can be in a profoundly emotional state

00:06:25.880 that's as deep as it can be,

00:06:27.280 and it can have religious significance

00:06:28.740 without that necessarily signifying anything

00:06:30.720 about a transcendent being, you know.

00:06:33.200 But then I was thinking,

00:06:35.560 see, the problem with that argument

00:06:36.980 is you can gerrymander it endlessly, you know.

00:06:39.780 Because, first of all, how do you measure suffering

00:06:41.980 and how do you measure happiness?

00:06:43.400 It's like, how do you assign weights to them?

00:06:45.880 There's just no way of doing that.

00:06:47.660 You have to do it arbitrarily.

00:06:49.940 And so, you can make an argument

00:06:52.000 that the suffering outweighs the happiness.

00:06:53.700 You just weight the suffering more heavily

00:06:55.200 than you weight the happiness,

00:06:56.260 and that's the end of that, you know.

00:06:57.460 And so, that's a problem.

00:07:00.080 But, I think there's a deeper problem.

00:07:03.580 And I was reading this other book

00:07:04.860 a while back, as well,

00:07:07.760 which was written by the guy

00:07:09.200 who ran the Human Genome Project.

00:07:11.920 And I don't remember exactly what it was called,

00:07:14.880 but it was something like

00:07:15.480 A Scientist's Case for God,

00:07:17.180 or something like that.

00:07:18.680 And one of the things he referred to,

00:07:21.380 which didn't strike me as hard

00:07:22.760 as it should have to begin with,

00:07:23.980 was he thought that one of the phenomena,

00:07:29.760 say, that justified a belief

00:07:31.560 in a transcendent being

00:07:32.700 was something like

00:07:33.440 the moral intuition of human beings,

00:07:35.720 that, you know,

00:07:36.720 we have a sense of right and wrong.

00:07:38.600 And, you know,

00:07:39.740 it's certainly what happens in Genesis

00:07:41.660 in the story of Adam and Eve,

00:07:42.960 is that that story announces

00:07:46.380 the coming of the sense of right and wrong,

00:07:48.380 right, the knowledge of good and evil.

00:07:49.580 And it isn't something

00:07:50.280 we ascribe to animals.

00:07:51.420 It's something that's unique to human beings.

00:07:53.640 Animals can be predators,

00:07:55.360 and, you know,

00:07:56.160 and they can be gentle,

00:07:57.820 and you can have a relationship with them,

00:08:00.000 but you never think of an evil cat,

00:08:01.780 or, you know,

00:08:02.700 or an evil wolf,

00:08:03.680 even though they're,

00:08:04.880 you know,

00:08:05.280 they're predatory.

00:08:07.820 But human beings,

00:08:09.100 we have this capacity

00:08:10.300 to judge between good and evil,

00:08:13.220 right and wrong.

00:08:13.840 And it's really an integral part

00:08:15.720 of our being.

00:08:17.200 And I think you can make

00:08:18.080 an evolutionary case for that,

00:08:19.360 a biological case for that,

00:08:20.880 as you can make

00:08:22.240 a biological case

00:08:23.580 for most of what

00:08:25.060 is relevant about human beings,

00:08:27.340 because we're biological creatures.

00:08:28.860 But we don't really understand

00:08:30.900 the significance of that.

00:08:32.220 Like, what happens

00:08:33.220 in the story of Adam and Eve

00:08:34.400 is that that's,

00:08:35.200 that realization,

00:08:36.200 that coming to the knowledge

00:08:37.480 of good and evil

00:08:38.100 is actually represented

00:08:39.020 as a shift of cosmic significance,

00:08:41.260 right?

00:08:41.420 It puts a,

00:08:41.920 it puts a permanent fracture

00:08:43.740 in the structure of being.

00:08:45.700 And, you know,

00:08:46.620 if you think of human beings

00:08:47.660 as insignificant ants

00:08:50.060 on a tiny dust moat

00:08:51.620 in the middle of an infinite cosmos,

00:08:53.800 a cosmos that cares less for us,

00:08:56.600 then who cares,

00:08:58.220 fundamentally,

00:08:58.820 if human beings have

00:08:59.720 the knowledge to distinguish

00:09:01.560 between good and evil.

00:09:02.580 But if you give consciousness

00:09:04.140 a central role in being,

00:09:05.920 and you can make

00:09:06.580 a perfectly reasonable case

00:09:07.840 for that,

00:09:08.280 because without consciousness

00:09:09.340 there's no being,

00:09:10.780 as far as anyone can determine,

00:09:13.240 so it may be much more central

00:09:14.680 than we think.

00:09:15.640 And I really don't think

00:09:18.120 there's a counter-argument to that.

00:09:19.600 Like, not a solid one.

00:09:21.460 You can state

00:09:22.280 that consciousness

00:09:22.920 is epiphenomenal

00:09:23.940 and that the world

00:09:25.120 is fundamentally materialistic

00:09:26.420 and it doesn't matter

00:09:27.360 that there's consciousness.

00:09:28.360 You can state that,

00:09:29.540 but you can make

00:09:30.360 an equally credible case

00:09:31.440 the other way.

00:09:32.680 And certainly,

00:09:33.500 our lived experience

00:09:34.480 is that consciousness

00:09:35.660 is crucial,

00:09:37.220 obviously,

00:09:38.000 and we treat each other

00:09:39.200 as if,

00:09:39.940 most of the time,

00:09:40.720 we're valuable conscious beings

00:09:42.380 and we wouldn't give up

00:09:44.120 our consciousness

00:09:44.780 even though it's often

00:09:45.740 consciousness of suffering.

00:09:46.960 and so then I think

00:09:48.480 another problem

00:09:49.160 with the book

00:09:49.720 is that

00:09:50.140 it's sort of predicated

00:09:52.860 on the idea

00:09:53.480 that life is for happiness

00:09:54.840 and I don't think

00:09:56.740 that's right

00:09:57.300 and I don't think

00:09:57.920 that's how people

00:09:58.620 experience life

00:09:59.520 and I might be wrong,

00:10:00.960 but it seems to me

00:10:02.080 that people experience life

00:10:04.860 as something like

00:10:05.660 a series of crucial

00:10:07.360 ethical decisions.

00:10:09.100 It's something like that.

00:10:10.200 I mean,

00:10:11.180 I just can't imagine

00:10:13.300 and maybe I'm being naive

00:10:16.320 about this,

00:10:16.880 but I can't imagine

00:10:18.360 that,

00:10:19.340 I can't imagine

00:10:20.020 another being

00:10:21.180 that's like me

00:10:22.840 in most senses

00:10:24.460 that isn't

00:10:25.660 constantly wrestling

00:10:27.620 in some sense

00:10:28.900 with what the next

00:10:30.400 proper thing to do is.

00:10:31.820 It's not like it's obvious.

00:10:32.960 It's not bloody obvious

00:10:33.960 and it doesn't mean

00:10:35.420 you'll do the right thing

00:10:36.640 because you don't

00:10:37.520 lots of times

00:10:38.780 and you know that

00:10:39.840 by your own judgment,

00:10:41.580 right?

00:10:41.820 Because you're making

00:10:42.300 mistakes all the time.

00:10:43.480 Sometimes you don't

00:10:44.080 know what you're doing

00:10:44.680 and maybe it's a mistake

00:10:45.540 and maybe it isn't

00:10:46.380 and who's to say?

00:10:47.580 That isn't what I'm

00:10:48.240 talking about.

00:10:48.820 I'm talking about

00:10:49.300 when you know

00:10:49.940 that what you're doing

00:10:50.640 is wrong

00:10:51.120 and you go ahead

00:10:51.920 and do it anyways.

00:10:52.860 People do that

00:10:53.420 all the time

00:10:53.980 and that's also

00:10:54.940 extremely peculiar.

00:10:56.300 You bloody well think

00:10:57.160 that if you knew

00:10:57.680 it was wrong

00:10:58.380 and you told yourself

00:10:59.560 that it was wrong

00:11:00.240 that that would be sufficient

00:11:01.460 so that you just

00:11:02.260 wouldn't do it

00:11:03.020 but that isn't

00:11:03.560 what you're like at all,

00:11:04.760 you know?

00:11:05.040 You can tell yourself

00:11:06.020 something is wrong

00:11:06.900 50 times

00:11:07.900 and you'll do it

00:11:08.520 the 51st time

00:11:09.500 and then you'll feel

00:11:10.480 you know like

00:11:11.120 like you deserve

00:11:12.680 to feel probably

00:11:13.560 and but it doesn't

00:11:15.600 stop you

00:11:16.220 and so

00:11:16.580 so then I think

00:11:18.180 the other problem

00:11:18.980 with the viewpoint

00:11:20.240 the idea that

00:11:21.400 the suffering of life

00:11:22.680 eradicates its utility

00:11:24.700 is that it's predicated

00:11:25.760 on the idea

00:11:26.360 that happiness

00:11:27.060 or lack of suffering

00:11:29.380 even is

00:11:29.920 is the right criteria

00:11:31.620 by which to judge life

00:11:33.020 and I don't think

00:11:34.360 that's how we

00:11:35.160 actually experience life.

00:11:37.260 I think what we do

00:11:38.260 instead is

00:11:38.960 put ourselves

00:11:40.160 through a series

00:11:40.980 of excruciating

00:11:42.180 moral choices.

00:11:44.740 You know

00:11:44.900 and one of the things

00:11:45.820 that's really

00:11:46.760 significant

00:11:48.040 about the biblical stories

00:11:49.360 and I think about

00:11:50.180 the entire

00:11:51.760 implicit

00:11:53.420 philosophy

00:11:55.460 you know

00:11:55.860 that's embedded

00:11:56.500 in the stories

00:11:57.200 is that

00:11:57.660 that's how life

00:11:59.020 is presented

00:11:59.640 in the stories

00:12:00.920 is all of these

00:12:01.860 individuals

00:12:02.520 first they're individuals

00:12:03.640 they're not groups

00:12:04.340 and second

00:12:05.220 they're agonizing

00:12:06.660 over their moral choices

00:12:07.900 all the time

00:12:08.720 all the time

00:12:09.540 and they have a

00:12:10.760 relationship with God

00:12:12.100 and but it's not a

00:12:14.100 it's not a directive

00:12:15.280 relationship

00:12:16.020 exactly

00:12:17.100 even

00:12:17.520 the people to whom

00:12:19.540 God speaks directly

00:12:20.660 which I suspect

00:12:21.880 is not something

00:12:22.640 you'd exactly want

00:12:23.480 to have happen

00:12:24.100 is

00:12:24.920 it's

00:12:26.700 they're still

00:12:28.320 even the fact

00:12:29.740 that they have

00:12:30.120 a direct relationship

00:12:31.020 with God

00:12:31.600 doesn't stop them

00:12:32.480 from being tormented

00:12:33.640 continually

00:12:34.240 by their moral choices

00:12:35.420 and so

00:12:36.840 the world is presented

00:12:38.320 as a moral landscape

00:12:40.140 not as a

00:12:41.460 not as a place

00:12:42.440 that justifies itself

00:12:43.740 by happiness

00:12:44.480 it's presented

00:12:45.580 as a moral landscape

00:12:46.540 and people are presented

00:12:47.560 as creatures

00:12:48.800 who

00:12:49.560 traverse through

00:12:50.920 the moral landscape

00:12:51.720 making

00:12:52.860 ethical decisions

00:12:54.500 that determine

00:12:55.280 the course of the world

00:12:56.340 and that seems

00:12:58.000 to me to be right

00:12:58.760 and that's not

00:12:59.480 that's not the same

00:13:00.800 as happiness

00:13:01.320 by any stretch

00:13:01.980 of the imagination

00:13:02.540 it's a whole different

00:13:03.900 category of

00:13:04.880 being

00:13:05.720 and

00:13:06.040 you know

00:13:08.400 and then I've thought

00:13:09.020 that through a lot

00:13:09.700 and I think

00:13:10.080 well

00:13:10.280 we do make choices

00:13:11.560 and what we do

00:13:13.040 is contend

00:13:13.680 with the future

00:13:14.580 you know

00:13:15.040 and the future

00:13:16.020 seems to appear

00:13:16.780 to us

00:13:17.100 as a realm

00:13:17.620 of possibility

00:13:18.480 that's a more

00:13:20.660 accurate way

00:13:21.140 of thinking about it

00:13:21.880 than that the future

00:13:23.000 presents itself

00:13:23.820 to us

00:13:24.820 as a realm

00:13:25.460 of determined

00:13:26.780 things

00:13:27.700 it presents itself

00:13:29.620 as a realm

00:13:30.080 of possibility

00:13:30.740 and there's good choices

00:13:31.680 in that realm

00:13:32.340 and there's poor choices

00:13:33.920 or even evil choices

00:13:35.000 in that realm

00:13:35.680 and we're negotiating

00:13:37.380 continually

00:13:38.140 deciding which of those choices

00:13:40.500 we're going to bring

00:13:41.240 into being

00:13:41.880 that seems to me

00:13:43.180 to be

00:13:43.560 phenomenologically

00:13:44.880 indisputable

00:13:45.820 and we certainly

00:13:46.340 treat each other

00:13:47.500 as if that's what

00:13:48.480 we're doing

00:13:48.860 because we hold each other

00:13:49.720 responsible for our actions

00:13:50.960 you know

00:13:51.460 with some exceptions

00:13:52.320 and that we're deciding

00:13:54.360 each moment

00:13:55.620 whether to make things

00:13:57.120 better or worse

00:13:58.000 and

00:13:59.440 that seems to me

00:14:01.960 to be correct

00:14:02.680 and I think

00:14:04.320 that that's what

00:14:04.940 these stories

00:14:05.580 illustrate

00:14:06.460 they don't say

00:14:08.140 that directly

00:14:09.180 you know

00:14:09.640 although I think

00:14:10.420 it gets more and more

00:14:11.120 explicit as the narrative

00:14:12.320 unfolds

00:14:13.900 but

00:14:14.200 and then part of the

00:14:15.820 realism of the stories

00:14:16.940 is that

00:14:17.420 the people aren't

00:14:20.980 the people that are

00:14:21.560 being presented

00:14:22.080 are by no means

00:14:23.360 good

00:14:23.880 I mean maybe

00:14:25.020 with the exception

00:14:25.600 of Noah

00:14:26.120 Noah seemed to be

00:14:26.880 a pretty good guy

00:14:27.500 he did get drunk

00:14:28.700 and you know

00:14:29.720 and end up naked

00:14:32.120 exposed to his sons

00:14:33.120 and so forth

00:14:33.860 but I mean

00:14:34.720 he isn't talked about

00:14:38.040 a lot as a character

00:14:39.060 it's a pretty compressed

00:14:39.860 story

00:14:40.240 but Abraham

00:14:40.840 I mean Abraham

00:14:41.540 had plenty of problems

00:14:42.720 not least of which

00:14:43.660 was his inability

00:14:44.700 to leave home

00:14:45.600 and then

00:14:45.960 you know

00:14:46.680 his lying about

00:14:47.420 his wife

00:14:47.900 and there's all sorts

00:14:49.260 of mistakes

00:14:49.820 and then Jacob

00:14:50.560 who we're going to

00:14:51.120 talk about tonight

00:14:51.880 is

00:14:52.800 an even more

00:14:54.740 morally

00:14:55.720 ambivalent character

00:14:57.360 he's

00:14:58.140 especially at the

00:14:58.940 beginning of the story

00:14:59.840 he's

00:15:00.200 it's

00:15:02.520 it's

00:15:02.940 he isn't

00:15:05.220 the sort of person

00:15:06.220 that you would

00:15:06.760 pick out

00:15:07.480 especially if you

00:15:09.200 were a hack writer

00:15:10.080 you wouldn't pick him

00:15:11.360 out as the hero

00:15:12.060 of the story

00:15:12.740 he does a lot of

00:15:14.300 things that are

00:15:14.780 really pretty

00:15:15.340 reprehensible

00:15:16.020 and takes him

00:15:16.920 an awful long time

00:15:17.700 to learn better

00:15:18.440 and yet

00:15:19.300 he's the person

00:15:20.380 who's put forward

00:15:21.760 as the father

00:15:22.680 of the 12 tribes

00:15:23.680 of Israel

00:15:24.160 it's from this

00:15:24.920 flawed person

00:15:25.860 that

00:15:26.140 the people

00:15:27.680 that

00:15:27.980 that

00:15:28.480 maybe

00:15:29.780 that

00:15:30.060 whose story

00:15:30.980 you might say

00:15:31.640 is at the

00:15:32.180 fundamental

00:15:32.900 constitutes the

00:15:35.200 fundamental

00:15:35.640 underpinning

00:15:36.240 of our culture

00:15:36.980 it's

00:15:37.740 from this

00:15:38.340 deeply flawed

00:15:38.960 individual

00:15:39.460 that

00:15:39.840 that

00:15:40.680 group

00:15:41.440 emerges

00:15:41.920 and so

00:15:43.260 you might

00:15:43.520 think of that

00:15:43.980 as a relief

00:15:44.580 too

00:15:44.820 because

00:15:45.160 you know

00:15:46.020 you're no

00:15:46.540 knight in shining armor

00:15:48.360 you know

00:15:48.700 with a

00:15:49.420 pure moral past

00:15:51.780 I mean

00:15:52.080 people make mistakes

00:15:53.080 of catastrophic

00:15:53.940 proportions

00:15:55.260 non-stop

00:15:56.340 you know

00:15:56.720 and

00:15:57.560 that also means

00:15:59.080 that these stories

00:15:59.820 put forward

00:16:00.500 something approximating

00:16:01.700 hope

00:16:02.100 because

00:16:02.560 in their realism

00:16:04.240 in their moral realism

00:16:05.460 they present

00:16:07.300 heroes

00:16:08.620 I suppose

00:16:09.200 the heroes

00:16:09.740 of renown

00:16:10.520 right

00:16:10.780 the patriarchs

00:16:11.560 of old

00:16:12.020 let's say

00:16:12.520 who are

00:16:13.480 realistic people

00:16:15.780 who have fits

00:16:17.120 of anger

00:16:17.720 and rage

00:16:18.280 and who are

00:16:18.800 murderous

00:16:19.380 at times

00:16:19.880 and who are

00:16:20.760 deeply

00:16:21.260 deeply

00:16:22.440 embroiled

00:16:24.140 with family

00:16:24.840 dispute

00:16:25.460 and who

00:16:26.220 have adulterous

00:16:27.920 affairs

00:16:28.380 and

00:16:28.800 like they do

00:16:30.320 all the terrible

00:16:30.920 things that people

00:16:31.680 do

00:16:32.040 and the weird

00:16:33.420 thing is

00:16:33.900 is that

00:16:34.300 God is still

00:16:35.420 with them

00:16:36.000 and

00:16:37.380 you know

00:16:38.940 it isn't obvious

00:16:39.640 what that means

00:16:40.800 or even

00:16:41.900 if it means

00:16:42.860 anything

00:16:43.220 but

00:16:43.520 it's very

00:16:45.320 it's not

00:16:45.880 disputable

00:16:46.540 as far as I can tell

00:16:47.540 that

00:16:47.800 A. we're conscious

00:16:49.820 and that

00:16:50.280 consciousness is a

00:16:51.880 transcendent phenomena

00:16:52.980 which we do not

00:16:54.080 understand

00:16:54.620 and that

00:16:55.560 the landscape

00:16:56.260 that we traverse

00:16:56.980 through is moral

00:16:57.920 like every story

00:16:59.240 you ever watch

00:17:00.140 anything that grips

00:17:00.900 your imagination

00:17:01.500 on the screen

00:17:02.280 or in the theater

00:17:02.920 like any story

00:17:04.040 that grabs you

00:17:04.840 is a story

00:17:05.840 of moral striving

00:17:06.820 it's just not

00:17:08.000 interesting otherwise

00:17:08.940 right

00:17:09.820 the person has to be

00:17:10.780 confronted with

00:17:11.400 complex moral choices

00:17:12.700 and then you see

00:17:13.420 the outcome

00:17:13.880 and you know

00:17:14.560 the good guy

00:17:15.200 does it right

00:17:15.960 and the bad guy

00:17:16.520 does it badly

00:17:17.180 and things don't go

00:17:18.040 so well for the bad guy

00:17:19.180 generally

00:17:19.900 and if it's a bit

00:17:20.820 more sophisticated

00:17:21.520 the good and the bad

00:17:22.660 are in the same

00:17:23.620 individual

00:17:24.140 and that's

00:17:24.760 you know

00:17:25.000 that's a more

00:17:25.560 compelling story

00:17:26.960 but

00:17:27.880 so we could say

00:17:34.300 well let's

00:17:34.960 we could make

00:17:35.440 the assumption

00:17:35.960 that it might be

00:17:36.700 worthwhile thinking

00:17:37.460 of the world

00:17:38.480 as it has been

00:17:40.300 thought of classically

00:17:41.180 as a theater

00:17:42.020 upon which

00:17:43.140 the forces of good

00:17:44.040 and evil

00:17:44.480 continually strive

00:17:46.060 for dominance

00:17:47.760 and I

00:17:49.040 for the life of me

00:17:50.840 especially

00:17:51.280 after I started

00:17:52.240 reading deeply

00:17:52.940 into 20th century history

00:17:54.320 and all the terrible

00:17:55.120 things that happened

00:17:55.980 in the 20th century

00:17:56.940 and all the terrible

00:17:57.960 unbelievably

00:17:58.960 incomprehensible

00:18:00.240 things that people

00:18:01.560 did to one another

00:18:02.340 I just couldn't see

00:18:04.180 seeing things

00:18:05.480 any other way

00:18:06.660 as realistic

00:18:07.500 you know

00:18:09.020 because

00:18:09.360 I don't think

00:18:11.440 that you can immerse

00:18:12.160 yourself in 20th century

00:18:13.260 history without coming

00:18:14.120 to the conclusion

00:18:14.780 that evil is a reality

00:18:15.920 and if it's a reality

00:18:18.200 it depends on what

00:18:20.380 you mean by reality

00:18:21.160 but it's fundamental

00:18:22.040 enough reality

00:18:22.720 for me

00:18:23.260 and if it's a reality

00:18:25.020 then I don't see

00:18:25.840 how you can escape

00:18:26.640 from the conclusion

00:18:27.400 that the cosmos

00:18:29.280 as we experience it

00:18:30.680 at least

00:18:31.060 is a place

00:18:32.520 of moral striving

00:18:33.820 and

00:18:35.180 well that's one of the

00:18:36.960 things that's really

00:18:37.580 illustrated in the story

00:18:38.640 of Jacob

00:18:39.120 and I found that

00:18:40.780 quite striking

00:18:41.440 so

00:18:42.360 so the last time

00:18:49.500 last lecture

00:18:51.420 I ended with

00:18:52.720 the Abrahamic stories

00:18:54.020 with the death of Sarah

00:18:55.480 and that was Abraham's wife

00:18:57.320 and so we're going to

00:18:58.700 continue from

00:18:59.400 from there

00:19:00.560 remember Abraham

00:19:01.720 had a son

00:19:02.480 Isaac

00:19:02.940 and

00:19:03.300 he was asked by God

00:19:05.000 to sacrifice his son

00:19:06.160 which

00:19:06.420 we talked about

00:19:07.800 in some depth

00:19:09.840 and I was

00:19:11.120 attempting to make the case

00:19:13.140 that

00:19:13.400 you know

00:19:14.020 the idea of sacrifice

00:19:15.080 was one of humankind's

00:19:16.840 great discoveries

00:19:17.720 because

00:19:18.160 it meant

00:19:19.520 the discovery of the future

00:19:20.880 essentially

00:19:21.700 but it also meant

00:19:22.600 the discovery

00:19:23.120 that the future

00:19:23.740 was something

00:19:24.280 that you could make

00:19:25.340 a bargain with

00:19:26.020 and that you could

00:19:26.900 give up something now

00:19:28.000 something impulsive

00:19:29.120 some pleasure

00:19:30.240 even a deep pleasure

00:19:31.260 in the moment

00:19:32.220 and you could strive

00:19:34.080 and hypothetically

00:19:35.460 you could make a covenant

00:19:36.480 a bargain

00:19:37.060 with the future

00:19:37.900 and if your sacrifices

00:19:39.400 were acceptable

00:19:40.380 and that seemed to mean

00:19:41.800 ethically acceptable

00:19:43.080 you had to sacrifice

00:19:44.200 the right thing

00:19:45.080 that that vastly

00:19:46.160 increased the probability

00:19:47.260 that not only you

00:19:48.540 would be successful

00:19:49.520 let's say

00:19:50.680 but that your descendants

00:19:51.780 would be too

00:19:52.520 and

00:19:52.960 I don't think

00:19:54.660 that that's an

00:19:55.300 irrational proposition

00:19:56.700 I mean

00:19:57.300 you have to

00:19:58.080 leave in it a bit

00:19:58.940 with the realization

00:19:59.620 that sometimes

00:20:00.520 you know

00:20:01.380 you get sliced off

00:20:02.360 at the knees

00:20:02.900 no matter what

00:20:03.860 right

00:20:04.220 because life has

00:20:05.220 an arbitrary element

00:20:06.200 and

00:20:06.500 and that can't

00:20:07.920 be tossed out

00:20:08.680 but

00:20:08.900 building in the

00:20:11.100 arbitrary element

00:20:11.920 we'll say

00:20:12.440 you still want to think

00:20:13.660 well what's your best bet

00:20:15.120 given a certain amount

00:20:16.260 of randomness

00:20:17.040 and

00:20:17.220 it seems to me

00:20:18.540 that

00:20:18.800 conscious self-aware

00:20:20.500 sacrifice

00:20:21.580 and proper ethical striving

00:20:23.600 is your best bet

00:20:24.660 and

00:20:24.900 you know

00:20:25.580 there's another idea

00:20:26.840 that

00:20:27.120 well I've always

00:20:28.880 explained it

00:20:29.500 when I've explained it

00:20:31.240 to people

00:20:31.580 I've always used

00:20:32.340 the movie

00:20:33.000 Pinocchio

00:20:33.500 as an example

00:20:34.180 you know

00:20:34.500 that

00:20:34.680 when Geppetto

00:20:35.500 is trying to

00:20:36.260 make his

00:20:37.000 puppet

00:20:37.520 into a

00:20:38.500 self-aware

00:20:39.440 and

00:20:39.940 autonomous

00:20:40.800 moral agent

00:20:42.240 which is

00:20:43.160 what he wants

00:20:44.520 above all else

00:20:45.320 you know

00:20:45.680 he

00:20:45.940 aims at

00:20:47.060 the highest good

00:20:47.840 that he can

00:20:48.400 conceive

00:20:49.000 which is the star

00:20:50.060 that he prays to

00:20:50.820 essentially

00:20:51.280 and hopes for

00:20:52.740 the transformation

00:20:53.360 and

00:20:53.800 there's also

00:20:54.400 something in that

00:20:55.060 that's

00:20:55.460 unutterably profound

00:20:56.660 and maybe that

00:20:57.740 is somewhat

00:20:58.800 independent

00:20:59.480 of the idea

00:21:00.680 that you have

00:21:01.800 to believe in God

00:21:02.600 I would also say

00:21:03.660 that what it means

00:21:04.660 to believe in God

00:21:05.600 in the Old Testament

00:21:06.340 is by no means

00:21:07.160 clear

00:21:07.520 and that's something

00:21:08.820 I also really want

00:21:09.600 to talk about tonight

00:21:10.400 it's not obvious

00:21:11.360 what it means

00:21:12.040 and

00:21:12.960 well

00:21:13.820 Geppetto

00:21:14.360 what he does

00:21:16.540 at least

00:21:16.940 is

00:21:17.300 aim at the

00:21:19.260 highest good

00:21:19.760 of which he can

00:21:20.420 conceive

00:21:20.980 you know

00:21:21.400 and that's actually

00:21:22.480 been a philosophical

00:21:23.420 definition of God

00:21:24.560 upon occasion

00:21:25.280 that God

00:21:26.120 is the highest good

00:21:26.940 of which you conceive

00:21:27.820 and

00:21:28.800 you know

00:21:31.300 that's different

00:21:31.900 than

00:21:32.180 the idea

00:21:33.440 of a transcendent

00:21:34.400 being

00:21:34.940 precisely

00:21:35.540 but

00:21:35.780 it's in line

00:21:36.600 with

00:21:36.840 certain interesting

00:21:38.640 psychoanalytic

00:21:39.420 speculations

00:21:40.140 this is one of the

00:21:40.760 things I really liked

00:21:41.460 about Carl Jung

00:21:42.360 Jung was so radical

00:21:44.280 a thinker

00:21:44.780 it's just beyond belief

00:21:45.860 like I've read a lot

00:21:46.620 of critics of Jung

00:21:47.420 and I've always

00:21:48.280 I've always got a kick

00:21:49.380 out of them

00:21:49.760 because the things

00:21:50.740 they accuse Jung of

00:21:51.780 are so trivial

00:21:52.880 compared to the things

00:21:53.840 that Jung actually did

00:21:55.080 that it's like

00:21:55.840 accusing a

00:21:56.580 murderer of jaywalking

00:21:58.980 like

00:21:59.400 because Jung

00:22:00.460 was unbelievably radical

00:22:01.820 like

00:22:02.160 here's one of his ideas

00:22:03.480 you know

00:22:03.760 he thought that

00:22:04.480 it was necessary

00:22:05.880 he believed that

00:22:06.940 psychotherapy

00:22:07.840 could be replaced

00:22:08.700 by a supreme moral effort

00:22:10.200 and so the moral effort

00:22:11.800 would be something like

00:22:12.700 aiming at the good

00:22:13.600 and then

00:22:13.980 trying to integrate yourself

00:22:15.440 around that

00:22:16.100 and that

00:22:16.480 the good

00:22:19.540 at which you aimed

00:22:20.820 would be something

00:22:21.620 approximating

00:22:22.520 what you would be like

00:22:24.180 if you manifested

00:22:25.240 your full potential

00:22:26.180 and that you'd have

00:22:27.460 a glimmering

00:22:28.180 of what that

00:22:28.680 full potential was

00:22:30.260 so that would be

00:22:30.780 the potential future you

00:22:32.160 and he thought of that

00:22:33.200 he thought of people

00:22:34.120 as four-dimensional entities

00:22:35.960 essentially

00:22:36.640 that were stretched

00:22:37.640 across time

00:22:38.440 and that

00:22:39.340 you as a totality

00:22:41.100 across time

00:22:41.860 including your potential

00:22:42.980 manifested yourself

00:22:44.200 also

00:22:44.760 in the here and now

00:22:46.320 and that part of

00:22:47.420 what your potential

00:22:48.280 manifested itself

00:22:49.720 was something like

00:22:50.500 the voice of

00:22:51.080 conscience

00:22:51.640 or intuition

00:22:53.300 it's an amazing idea

00:22:54.960 it's an amazing idea

00:22:56.020 right

00:22:56.260 because it's like

00:22:56.860 what you could be

00:22:57.700 in the future

00:22:58.240 beckons to you

00:22:59.200 in the present

00:22:59.840 and helps you

00:23:00.960 determine the difference

00:23:01.920 between good and evil

00:23:02.840 it's a mind-boggling idea

00:23:04.700 and you know

00:23:05.620 I think that

00:23:06.240 it's an idea

00:23:08.000 you have to contend with

00:23:09.180 and then he went

00:23:10.740 further than that

00:23:11.560 and this is also

00:23:12.820 a remarkable idea

00:23:15.220 you know

00:23:16.100 he was interested

00:23:17.080 in the symbolic

00:23:17.820 representation of Christ

00:23:19.220 and I mean

00:23:20.340 psychologically speaking

00:23:21.480 and he thought of Christ

00:23:22.560 as the representation

00:23:23.800 of the ideal

00:23:25.760 potential human

00:23:27.900 it's something like that

00:23:28.980 so it was a symbolic

00:23:30.280 at minimum

00:23:31.420 that's what Christ was

00:23:32.440 as a symbolic representation

00:23:33.860 of the ideal potential

00:23:35.080 of a human being

00:23:35.840 and so for Jung

00:23:36.960 there was no difference

00:23:37.880 between

00:23:38.400 there was no psychological

00:23:40.160 difference between

00:23:41.080 who you could be

00:23:42.660 in the future

00:23:43.400 beckoning to you

00:23:44.360 in the present

00:23:45.560 and orienting yourself

00:23:47.660 in relationship to Christ

00:23:48.940 psychologically

00:23:49.940 those were the same thing

00:23:51.740 and then

00:23:53.120 so that's a pretty

00:23:54.440 mind-boggling idea

00:23:55.460 like seriously

00:23:56.340 that's a mind-boggling idea

00:23:57.780 you know

00:23:58.400 especially when you add

00:23:59.700 the psychological idea

00:24:01.260 that

00:24:01.560 one of the things

00:24:03.060 that characterizes

00:24:03.880 your ideal future self

00:24:05.160 is the ability

00:24:05.800 to make sacrifices

00:24:06.780 right

00:24:07.180 and the deeper

00:24:08.080 the sacrifice

00:24:08.760 the better

00:24:09.220 and then also

00:24:10.140 to recover

00:24:10.860 from the sacrifice

00:24:11.920 right

00:24:12.280 so that's the death

00:24:13.060 and rebirth

00:24:13.560 so the part of you

00:24:14.660 that's most essential

00:24:15.780 to your full flowering

00:24:17.680 as a being

00:24:18.900 is

00:24:19.280 your ability

00:24:20.780 to let things go

00:24:22.440 and then spring back

00:24:23.600 from that

00:24:23.960 so to die

00:24:24.840 in some sense

00:24:25.460 and to be reborn

00:24:26.300 in the service

00:24:27.340 of a higher good

00:24:28.200 and then

00:24:28.960 well

00:24:29.640 then

00:24:29.960 the next

00:24:30.680 part of that

00:24:31.560 is that

00:24:31.900 the direction

00:24:33.160 of the world

00:24:33.940 depends on you

00:24:35.020 doing that

00:24:35.720 so not only

00:24:36.840 your own life

00:24:37.360 but your family's life

00:24:38.340 and because we're

00:24:39.480 networked so intently

00:24:40.780 together

00:24:41.280 you know

00:24:42.040 the whole

00:24:42.780 panoply of humankind

00:24:44.500 and maybe the structure

00:24:45.820 of the cosmos

00:24:47.240 and you know

00:24:48.140 you might think

00:24:48.740 well no

00:24:49.300 but you know

00:24:50.280 it's not so simple

00:24:51.880 it's not so simple

00:24:52.860 first of all

00:24:55.160 one person can wreak

00:24:56.220 an awful lot of havoc

00:24:57.280 there's absolutely

00:24:58.040 no doubt about that

00:24:59.020 and as we get

00:24:59.820 more technologically powerful

00:25:01.040 that becomes even more

00:25:02.140 relevant and important

00:25:03.960 and crucial

00:25:05.260 you know

00:25:05.620 one of the things

00:25:06.220 that Jung said

00:25:06.800 was that we had to wake up

00:25:08.260 because we are too

00:25:09.540 technologically powerful

00:25:10.940 to be as morally asleep

00:25:12.280 as we are

00:25:13.060 and that seems to me

00:25:14.760 just to be self-evident

00:25:15.840 that's yeah

00:25:16.420 for sure

00:25:16.920 that's true

00:25:17.440 we're half asleep

00:25:19.860 with nuclear bombs

00:25:20.960 it's not a good idea

00:25:22.300 it's seriously

00:25:23.100 not a good idea

00:25:24.020 and so

00:25:25.320 well and then

00:25:29.640 you might ask yourself

00:25:30.620 too you know

00:25:31.160 well like

00:25:31.460 what is the ultimate

00:25:32.820 potential

00:25:34.640 of a fully

00:25:35.640 developed human being

00:25:36.940 and

00:25:38.100 well we certainly know

00:25:39.320 that you have admiration

00:25:40.740 for people

00:25:41.380 who are more developed

00:25:42.240 rather than less developed

00:25:43.300 that's

00:25:43.680 that just happens

00:25:44.900 automatic

00:25:46.080 or resentment

00:25:46.900 that

00:25:47.260 but that's okay

00:25:48.120 it's the same thing

00:25:48.960 it doesn't matter

00:25:49.600 but

00:25:50.220 it's not like

00:25:50.820 you can't identify them

00:25:51.940 you can identify them

00:25:53.080 you know

00:25:53.380 and they're put forward

00:25:54.500 to you

00:25:54.920 in drama

00:25:56.160 and fiction

00:25:56.660 and all of that

00:25:57.240 constantly

00:25:57.780 so

00:25:58.420 that's another form

00:25:59.420 of moral intuition

00:26:00.340 you know

00:26:00.880 you can discern

00:26:02.240 the wheat

00:26:02.680 from the chaff

00:26:03.420 let's say

00:26:03.960 and so

00:26:05.400 and so

00:26:05.420 the other thing

00:26:13.420 that I was thinking

00:26:14.040 about

00:26:14.380 that's worth

00:26:15.780 consideration too

00:26:17.000 is that

00:26:17.380 you know

00:26:18.340 and maybe this is

00:26:20.040 maybe this is petty

00:26:21.120 but I don't

00:26:21.860 think it is

00:26:22.680 somebody asked me

00:26:25.260 the other day

00:26:25.660 if I believed in miracles

00:26:26.700 and

00:26:27.860 I hate being asked

00:26:29.080 questions like that

00:26:30.020 you know

00:26:30.300 and

00:26:31.360 you know

00:26:32.980 it's also

00:26:33.360 people ask me

00:26:34.080 do I believe in God

00:26:35.280 and I don't know

00:26:36.480 what they mean

00:26:37.140 when they say that

00:26:37.880 and so I don't know

00:26:38.400 what to answer

00:26:39.020 because I don't think

00:26:39.780 we're necessarily

00:26:40.500 going to talk about

00:26:41.400 the same thing

00:26:42.040 but in any case

00:26:43.020 I said yes

00:26:43.820 and I have a variety

00:26:44.940 of reasons for that

00:26:45.740 but one of them

00:26:46.420 is that

00:26:46.820 you know

00:26:47.840 the consensus

00:26:51.300 among physicists

00:26:52.220 is that

00:26:53.060 we can track

00:26:55.200 the origin

00:26:55.940 of the cosmos

00:26:56.540 to something like

00:26:57.360 a hundred millionth

00:26:58.920 of a millionth

00:26:59.760 of a second

00:27:00.280 after the Big Bang

00:27:01.240 it's like

00:27:01.660 it's so close

00:27:02.760 to the Big Bang

00:27:03.460 that

00:27:03.720 the difference

00:27:06.180 is literally

00:27:06.760 infinitesimal

00:27:07.700 but

00:27:08.520 the consensus

00:27:09.580 is that

00:27:10.100 before that

00:27:10.840 whatever that is

00:27:11.740 the laws of physics

00:27:13.040 themselves

00:27:13.500 break down

00:27:14.260 well

00:27:15.760 what

00:27:17.020 what do you call

00:27:18.180 an event

00:27:18.560 that

00:27:19.820 exists outside

00:27:21.020 the laws of physics

00:27:21.940 by definition

00:27:23.580 that's a miracle

00:27:24.340 now that doesn't

00:27:25.140 necessarily mean

00:27:25.920 that there's a

00:27:26.620 transcendent deity

00:27:28.200 that caused

00:27:29.320 the event

00:27:29.820 that's a separate

00:27:30.580 issue

00:27:31.040 but

00:27:32.240 it does imply

00:27:33.420 a barrier

00:27:34.520 of some sort

00:27:35.420 beyond which

00:27:36.900 we can't go

00:27:37.740 where some other

00:27:38.900 set of rules

00:27:39.540 apply

00:27:40.020 and so

00:27:41.080 I find that

00:27:42.680 interesting as well

00:27:43.680 so

00:27:44.940 alright

00:27:49.760 so

00:27:55.080 Sarah dies

00:27:55.840 and

00:27:56.440 Abraham

00:27:57.040 makes a bargain

00:27:59.040 with the

00:27:59.840 Hittites

00:28:01.840 to purchase

00:28:02.800 a burial place

00:28:03.600 for her

00:28:03.980 and they offer

00:28:04.900 it as a gift

00:28:05.620 and he insists

00:28:06.540 upon paying for it

00:28:07.560 it's a little story

00:28:08.320 that basically

00:28:09.040 indicates two things

00:28:10.480 that Abraham

00:28:11.060 was the kind of guy

00:28:12.540 that you trust

00:28:14.180 pretty much

00:28:14.960 when you see him

00:28:15.660 and that

00:28:15.980 even if something

00:28:17.380 is offered to him

00:28:18.060 as a gift

00:28:18.460 he's going to do

00:28:19.060 everything to

00:28:19.820 be reciprocal

00:28:21.460 about it

00:28:22.140 and so

00:28:23.260 it's not

00:28:24.200 a massively

00:28:25.440 important part

00:28:26.180 of the story

00:28:26.560 but it's in keeping

00:28:27.660 with the same

00:28:28.440 narrative flow

00:28:29.780 and so

00:28:30.960 Ephron

00:28:32.440 who's a Hittite

00:28:33.240 offers a burial place

00:28:34.480 as a gift

00:28:35.020 and Abraham

00:28:35.720 says no

00:28:36.300 you know

00:28:36.560 you have to let me

00:28:37.280 pay for it

00:28:37.860 and Ephron

00:28:38.720 says

00:28:39.160 he will

00:28:40.180 and that works out

00:28:41.140 very well

00:28:41.660 and so

00:28:42.120 he has a good

00:28:43.220 burial place

00:28:43.880 for his wife

00:28:44.500 and then

00:28:45.740 Abraham decides

00:28:48.960 that Isaac

00:28:50.580 needs a wife

00:28:51.340 and so

00:28:52.640 he sends his

00:28:53.860 eldest servant

00:28:56.120 to

00:28:58.000 Mesopotamia

00:28:59.600 to find a wife

00:29:00.320 for Isaac

00:29:00.800 and

00:29:01.140 there's a strange

00:29:03.420 ritual

00:29:04.200 that's performed

00:29:04.980 so it says

00:29:05.620 in the story

00:29:06.660 that the servant

00:29:07.420 places his hand

00:29:08.400 under

00:29:08.800 Abraham's thigh

00:29:10.180 to

00:29:10.500 to

00:29:11.940 swear

00:29:12.800 but that isn't

00:29:13.300 really what it means

00:29:14.020 it means that

00:29:14.700 he places his hand

00:29:16.340 I don't know exactly

00:29:18.080 how to say this

00:29:18.900 properly

00:29:19.500 well use your

00:29:20.560 imagination

00:29:21.200 how about that

00:29:22.120 and the idea

00:29:23.740 is that

00:29:24.400 as far as I can tell

00:29:25.620 that

00:29:25.840 he's swearing

00:29:27.320 on the future

00:29:28.060 he's swearing on

00:29:28.940 future people

00:29:29.820 it's something like that

00:29:30.860 so that's sort of

00:29:31.560 what testify means

00:29:32.600 right

00:29:32.880 think about the root

00:29:34.380 well I'm not kidding

00:29:35.420 I'm not kidding

00:29:37.040 that is what

00:29:38.080 that is the derivation

00:29:39.820 right

00:29:40.080 it is the derivation

00:29:41.320 so

00:29:41.680 so

00:29:42.680 so anyways

00:29:44.140 this is a serious issue

00:29:45.480 so

00:29:45.960 that servant has to go

00:29:47.300 and find Isaac

00:29:47.920 a good wife

00:29:48.580 and he wants him

00:29:49.960 to find

00:29:50.680 Isaac a wife

00:29:51.900 who

00:29:52.180 is willing to

00:29:53.980 accept the same

00:29:55.320 fundamental belief system

00:29:56.560 which is

00:29:56.940 something like

00:29:57.620 the belief in

00:29:58.300 a God

00:29:59.360 that's a unity

00:30:00.060 rather than a plurality

00:30:01.320 you know

00:30:01.920 the other thing that

00:30:02.580 Jung was very insistent upon

00:30:04.280 was that

00:30:05.540 there was a relationship

00:30:07.560 between

00:30:08.300 polytheism

00:30:10.940 and psychological confusion

00:30:12.920 and monotheism

00:30:14.400 and psychological unification

00:30:16.000 and I really like that idea too

00:30:17.980 that

00:30:18.400 you know

00:30:19.060 that

00:30:19.280 that what you're trying to do

00:30:21.060 because you are a plurality

00:30:22.320 that

00:30:22.540 that's one of the things

00:30:23.480 the psychoanalysts

00:30:24.280 were really good at figuring out

00:30:25.480 that the cognitive scientists

00:30:26.640 haven't

00:30:27.500 touched yet

00:30:28.200 as far as I can tell

00:30:29.080 they're way behind

00:30:29.920 the psychoanalysts

00:30:30.740 in that element of thinking

00:30:31.600 is that

00:30:31.940 you are composed

00:30:33.100 of sub-personalities

00:30:34.560 which all have

00:30:35.680 their own

00:30:36.260 desires

00:30:37.200 and their own viewpoint

00:30:38.040 their own thoughts

00:30:38.880 and their own perceptions

00:30:39.840 and

00:30:40.860 they're in a war

00:30:42.140 with each other

00:30:42.840 constantly

00:30:43.680 maybe even a Darwinian war

00:30:45.960 it's been

00:30:46.880 portrayed that way

00:30:48.580 by certain neuroscientists

00:30:50.020 and that

00:30:51.380 one of the goals

00:30:52.900 of life

00:30:53.760 is to

00:30:54.140 integrate

00:30:54.780 all of that plurality

00:30:56.380 into a

00:30:57.080 hierarchical

00:30:58.160 ethical structure

00:30:58.980 that has some

00:30:59.860 canonical

00:31:01.000 ethic

00:31:02.400 at the pinnacle

00:31:03.380 right

00:31:03.720 we've talked a little bit

00:31:04.820 about that

00:31:05.240 it's not obvious

00:31:06.500 what should be

00:31:07.700 at the pinnacle

00:31:08.380 but

00:31:08.660 we can guess at it

00:31:09.980 it's that which we admire

00:31:11.920 that's one way

00:31:12.760 of thinking about it

00:31:13.500 it's that

00:31:14.500 that describes

00:31:15.440 fair play

00:31:16.320 across a sequence

00:31:17.440 of games

00:31:18.200 that's another good way

00:31:19.160 of thinking about it

00:31:19.940 it's

00:31:20.160 the heroic ideal

00:31:21.780 that's another way

00:31:23.120 of thinking about it

00:31:23.840 but it's

00:31:24.220 combined with

00:31:25.060 generosity

00:31:25.800 you know

00:31:26.400 because the hero

00:31:26.980 the mythological hero

00:31:27.940 goes out into the unknown

00:31:29.120 and slays the dragon

00:31:30.220 and gets the gold

00:31:31.000 but then

00:31:32.360 comes back

00:31:33.040 to the community

00:31:33.620 and distributes

00:31:34.340 what's found

00:31:35.040 and so it's courage

00:31:36.060 plus generosity

00:31:37.100 and

00:31:37.440 and so all of your

00:31:40.020 all of that interior

00:31:41.760 struggling that you're doing

00:31:43.520 is an attempt

00:31:44.480 to

00:31:44.880 bang yourself

00:31:46.900 against the world

00:31:47.760 with challenge

00:31:48.620 constantly

00:31:49.440 to hit everything together

00:31:51.420 like you're beating

00:31:52.120 on a piece of iron

00:31:53.020 to

00:31:53.260 to

00:31:53.900 cure it

00:31:55.480 let's say

00:31:56.000 so that

00:31:56.820 you don't

00:31:58.520 you're not an internal

00:31:59.320 contradiction

00:31:59.960 you're not a massive

00:32:00.900 competing god

00:32:02.340 something like that

00:32:03.220 because it's just too

00:32:04.220 psychologically stressful

00:32:06.320 and hard on everyone else

00:32:07.620 and impossible for them

00:32:08.980 to get along with you

00:32:09.780 if you're one thing

00:32:10.580 one moment

00:32:11.080 and another thing

00:32:11.760 another moment

00:32:12.400 and so

00:32:13.540 so anyways

00:32:16.060 Abraham insists

00:32:16.980 that Isaac

00:32:17.580 find a wife

00:32:18.740 from among people

00:32:19.540 who

00:32:19.780 are likely to carry forward

00:32:22.140 the monotheistic tradition

00:32:23.560 and I'm not sure

00:32:24.480 that the monotheistic tradition

00:32:25.820 is actually indistinguishable

00:32:27.300 is actually distinguishable

00:32:29.360 from the individualistic tradition

00:32:30.960 I think they might be

00:32:32.320 the same thing

00:32:33.580 at different levels

00:32:34.380 of analysis

00:32:35.000 you know

00:32:35.760 so

00:32:36.500 because individual means

00:32:38.060 undivided in some sense

00:32:40.760 right

00:32:40.940 to be an individual

00:32:41.740 means to be one thing

00:32:43.360 and

00:32:44.260 the other thing

00:32:45.220 that mitigates

00:32:46.560 against the idea

00:32:47.320 of life as happiness

00:32:48.260 is it isn't obvious to me

00:32:49.600 that it's happiness

00:32:50.360 that

00:32:50.760 is what molds you

00:32:52.420 and shapes you

00:32:53.220 you know

00:32:53.620 it's something more like

00:32:54.620 optimal challenge

00:32:55.700 voluntarily undertaken

00:32:57.220 it's something like that

00:32:58.300 right

00:32:58.880 and I think that's echoed

00:32:59.840 in the idea

00:33:00.340 that everyone has

00:33:01.220 a moral obligation

00:33:02.080 to raise their cross

00:33:04.000 something like that

00:33:04.980 to accept the fact

00:33:06.160 of their mortality

00:33:07.100 voluntarily

00:33:08.200 I believe

00:33:09.980 that that's the case

00:33:10.800 and I do actually think

00:33:11.900 that that's a prerequisite

00:33:12.960 to proper psychological development

00:33:14.860 because

00:33:15.240 if you're not willing to

00:33:16.660 take your mortality

00:33:18.540 on voluntarily

00:33:20.120 like if you're kicking

00:33:21.140 and fighting about it

00:33:22.120 constantly

00:33:22.560 and you have every reason to

00:33:24.000 don't get me wrong

00:33:24.920 then you can't

00:33:26.700 act forthrightly

00:33:27.780 in the world

00:33:28.260 right

00:33:28.860 you're going to be afraid

00:33:29.780 and

00:33:30.460 when you're afraid

00:33:31.420 then you can't

00:33:32.120 voluntarily

00:33:32.660 take on a challenge

00:33:34.440 and then if you can't

00:33:35.280 voluntarily take on

00:33:36.440 a challenge

00:33:36.800 then you can't develop

00:33:37.840 and so

00:33:38.300 again

00:33:38.920 life seems to be

00:33:40.220 something like

00:33:40.860 if it's a proper life

00:33:42.880 is the voluntary

00:33:43.880 voluntary taking on

00:33:45.600 of great challenges

00:33:46.680 and maybe that's better

00:33:48.560 than happiness

00:33:49.260 like it's certainly

00:33:50.280 more noble

00:33:50.980 you know

00:33:51.560 it's not a word

00:33:52.500 we use very much

00:33:53.440 anymore

00:33:53.840 the idea of nobility

00:33:55.020 because we're so obsessed

00:33:56.200 with happiness

00:33:57.200 but I think happiness

00:33:58.520 is a

00:33:58.960 like if it comes along

00:34:00.280 man great

00:34:00.880 you know

00:34:01.240 wonderful

00:34:01.840 don't

00:34:03.040 don't

00:34:04.440 take it lightly

00:34:05.400 or for granted

00:34:06.240 because it's fleeting

00:34:07.220 but the idea

00:34:08.380 that that's what

00:34:09.020 you should be

00:34:10.120 for

00:34:10.960 in some sense

00:34:11.840 just seems to me

00:34:12.720 if that's what life

00:34:14.440 is for

00:34:14.780 then maybe it shouldn't

00:34:15.640 be

00:34:15.860 maybe that's correct

00:34:16.860 because that isn't

00:34:18.280 what life is

00:34:19.060 but it also doesn't

00:34:20.640 it isn't obvious to me

00:34:21.540 that that's what life

00:34:22.280 should be

00:34:22.940 you know

00:34:23.900 I mean

00:34:24.260 if you really loved

00:34:25.340 someone

00:34:25.760 like your son

00:34:27.040 let's say

00:34:27.580 would you say

00:34:29.020 well I hope he has

00:34:29.700 a happy life

00:34:30.480 or would you say

00:34:31.420 I hope he accomplishes

00:34:33.480 great things

00:34:34.240 it seems to me

00:34:35.780 that that's better

00:34:36.560 the accomplishing

00:34:38.020 of great things

00:34:38.880 and

00:34:39.100 because that's

00:34:41.060 admirable

00:34:41.620 you know

00:34:42.140 it's like a happy

00:34:43.140 person is a happy

00:34:43.940 person but a

00:34:44.800 noble person

00:34:45.880 is an admirable

00:34:46.620 person

00:34:47.100 and that's

00:34:48.480 that's better

00:34:49.660 man

00:34:50.040 and so

00:34:50.720 maybe there are

00:34:51.280 better things

00:34:51.780 than happiness

00:34:52.360 and so you can't

00:34:53.880 judge being

00:34:54.820 on the basis

00:34:55.500 of the ratio

00:34:56.960 of suffering

00:34:57.620 to pleasure

00:34:58.300 something like that

00:34:59.160 it's

00:34:59.380 and I don't think

00:35:00.420 we do that

00:35:01.000 I don't believe

00:35:01.780 we do that

00:35:02.380 I mean comedians

00:35:03.480 are happy

00:35:03.980 right

00:35:04.220 but everyone

00:35:04.940 doesn't aspire

00:35:05.560 to be a comedian

00:35:06.200 and you don't watch

00:35:06.960 comedy all the time

00:35:07.960 even though

00:35:08.380 you can laugh

00:35:09.320 non-stop

00:35:09.940 more or less

00:35:10.480 if the comedian

00:35:11.000 is funny

00:35:11.440 you want to get

00:35:12.560 your teeth

00:35:13.040 into something

00:35:13.700 it also seems

00:35:14.800 to me

00:35:15.100 that

00:35:15.280 this is one

00:35:16.600 of the reasons

00:35:16.920 I liked

00:35:17.260 existential philosophy

00:35:18.420 was that

00:35:19.000 you know

00:35:20.800 the existentialist

00:35:21.780 believed

00:35:22.220 it's sort of

00:35:22.720 an original sin

00:35:23.500 idea

00:35:23.780 they believed

00:35:24.240 that we came

00:35:24.780 into the world

00:35:25.360 with an ethical

00:35:26.000 burden

00:35:26.480 already laden

00:35:27.440 upon us

00:35:28.040 something like

00:35:28.620 that

00:35:29.260 and that we had

00:35:29.700 a felt sense

00:35:30.520 that it was

00:35:31.220 necessary for us

00:35:32.120 to justify our being

00:35:33.540 and if we didn't

00:35:34.480 do that

00:35:34.900 then we weren't

00:35:35.560 authentic

00:35:36.100 to ourselves

00:35:36.800 we weren't

00:35:37.400 moving towards

00:35:38.060 individuality

00:35:38.880 we weren't

00:35:39.520 sustaining the

00:35:40.240 community

00:35:40.660 we weren't

00:35:41.360 living properly

00:35:42.260 and that

00:35:42.660 that idea

00:35:43.560 was deeply

00:35:44.480 embedded in people

00:35:45.720 as part of their

00:35:46.540 ordinary experience

00:35:48.100 and that also

00:35:49.300 seems to me

00:35:49.840 to be

00:35:50.200 accurate

00:35:51.440 and you know

00:35:52.240 I've dealt with

00:35:52.820 lots of people

00:35:53.360 say in my

00:35:53.820 clinical practice

00:35:54.640 and

00:35:54.880 they don't really

00:35:57.580 they will come

00:35:58.880 and say

00:35:59.200 I wish I wasn't

00:36:00.000 so unhappy

00:36:00.780 but they don't

00:36:02.100 usually come

00:36:02.840 and say

00:36:03.100 I wish

00:36:03.460 I was

00:36:03.800 happier

00:36:04.320 and those

00:36:05.500 things aren't

00:36:06.000 the same

00:36:06.420 and then

00:36:07.280 when you

00:36:08.820 talk to people

00:36:09.520 who are having

00:36:10.140 trouble

00:36:10.440 you know

00:36:10.680 they want

00:36:10.980 to straighten

00:36:11.580 things out

00:36:12.400 and figure out

00:36:13.240 how to do

00:36:13.620 them right

00:36:14.160 it's something

00:36:14.680 like that

00:36:15.360 and

00:36:16.320 and that

00:36:16.920 that's the

00:36:17.360 primary

00:36:17.860 that's their

00:36:18.420 primary goal

00:36:19.160 and

00:36:19.400 so anyways

00:36:30.640 Abraham sends

00:36:32.520 his eldest servant

00:36:33.640 off to his

00:36:34.360 the place that

00:36:35.420 God has granted

00:36:36.120 him

00:36:36.420 to find a wife

00:36:37.900 and

00:36:38.100 interestingly

00:36:39.000 it

00:36:40.340 the borders

00:36:41.080 of the promised

00:36:41.780 land are

00:36:42.240 quite similar

00:36:43.260 to the current

00:36:44.060 borders of

00:36:45.280 Israel

00:36:45.680 and these are

00:36:46.800 estimates right

00:36:47.480 based on

00:36:48.000 on the biblical

00:36:48.700 and I mean

00:36:49.360 that's not a fluke

00:36:50.260 obviously

00:36:50.720 but it's

00:36:51.520 it's interesting

00:36:52.120 to see

00:36:52.680 the concordance

00:36:54.560 between

00:36:55.000 these ancient

00:36:56.180 stories and

00:36:56.740 the present day

00:36:57.680 world

00:36:58.060 so

00:36:59.320 I thought that

00:37:00.580 was very interesting

00:37:01.400 and it shows

00:37:02.040 once again

00:37:02.900 that the past

00:37:03.580 you think the past

00:37:04.640 is the past

00:37:05.400 but it's not

00:37:06.040 it's

00:37:06.420 it's still here

00:37:07.560 it's embedded

00:37:08.400 in the present

00:37:09.100 you know

00:37:09.460 just like the future

00:37:10.500 in some ways

00:37:11.780 is folded up

00:37:12.620 inside the present

00:37:13.440 waiting to unfold

00:37:14.460 the past

00:37:15.360 is all folded

00:37:16.000 up inside

00:37:16.480 the present

00:37:16.940 too

00:37:17.280 so anyways

00:37:29.680 the servant

00:37:31.160 goes to

00:37:31.800 the land

00:37:34.020 that he's been

00:37:34.620 charged to go

00:37:35.740 to

00:37:35.920 and

00:37:36.140 and he's

00:37:37.400 he's trying to

00:37:37.900 figure out

00:37:38.200 how in the world

00:37:38.720 am I going to

00:37:39.160 find a good

00:37:40.500 wife for Isaac

00:37:41.220 I mean I don't

00:37:41.700 know any of

00:37:42.060 these people

00:37:42.540 and so he has

00:37:43.600 this little dialogue

00:37:44.440 that's presented

00:37:45.160 in the form of

00:37:45.900 a prayer

00:37:46.340 I suppose

00:37:46.960 and he thinks

00:37:49.640 well I'm going to

00:37:50.160 go to the place

00:37:51.280 where you water

00:37:52.000 where people get

00:37:53.000 water

00:37:53.300 and water the

00:37:53.820 animals

00:37:54.180 because that's a

00:37:56.160 place where

00:37:56.560 everyone gathers

00:37:57.220 so that's a good

00:37:58.060 place to find

00:37:58.700 someone

00:37:59.060 and it's

00:38:00.260 not a place

00:38:01.000 of fun

00:38:01.540 and lightness

00:38:02.460 and relaxation

00:38:03.100 and impulsivity

00:38:04.280 it's a place

00:38:04.880 of life

00:38:06.580 sustaining work

00:38:07.720 and he thinks

00:38:09.060 something like

00:38:09.640 well what would

00:38:10.780 a decent

00:38:11.680 girl do

00:38:13.140 at a watering

00:38:14.120 place

00:38:14.560 and he thought

00:38:15.360 well maybe

00:38:16.260 she would offer

00:38:17.600 a stranger

00:38:18.260 some water

00:38:19.000 and also

00:38:20.320 offer to

00:38:21.580 water the

00:38:22.820 camels

00:38:23.280 because that

00:38:24.420 would be brave

00:38:25.280 to approach

00:38:26.680 the stranger

00:38:27.160 and then generous

00:38:28.140 and then indicative

00:38:29.780 of the willingness

00:38:31.060 to make an effort

00:38:31.940 and when you know

00:38:32.980 that a camel

00:38:34.340 I think he took

00:38:35.540 ten camels

00:38:36.320 there's quite a few

00:38:37.260 camels anyways

00:38:38.060 not just one

00:38:39.120 and that a camel

00:38:41.000 can drink twenty

00:38:41.740 gallons of water

00:38:42.700 and Rebecca

00:38:44.640 who was drawing

00:38:45.400 water from the

00:38:46.120 well

00:38:46.240 turns out to be

00:38:46.820 Rebecca

00:38:47.160 who was drawing

00:38:47.620 water from the

00:38:48.200 well

00:38:48.440 which is hard

00:38:49.620 right

00:38:50.040 because water's

00:38:50.960 heavy

00:38:51.260 and you have to

00:38:51.980 lift it up

00:38:52.500 and it's ten

00:38:53.460 camels

00:38:54.260 and so that's

00:38:54.860 like two hundred

00:38:55.380 gallons of water

00:38:56.160 so you know

00:38:57.000 she has to put

00:38:57.540 herself out a

00:38:58.180 fair bit

00:38:58.620 in order to

00:38:59.300 make this stranger

00:39:00.540 happy

00:39:01.000 and so

00:39:01.460 that's what

00:39:02.760 happens

00:39:03.160 and then

00:39:04.120 the servant

00:39:07.760 has brought

00:39:08.120 along gifts

00:39:08.760 and that sort

00:39:09.340 of thing

00:39:09.660 and anyways

00:39:10.840 to make a long

00:39:11.680 story short

00:39:12.400 Rebecca

00:39:13.700 agrees to

00:39:14.980 come back

00:39:16.020 to come back

00:39:17.520 with the servant

00:39:18.160 and marry Isaac

00:39:20.240 and so

00:39:21.440 then she has

00:39:24.620 she gets pregnant

00:39:25.700 and she has twins

00:39:26.780 and this is an

00:39:28.120 interesting thing

00:39:28.880 the twins fight

00:39:29.760 inside her

00:39:30.540 she can tell

00:39:31.280 that they're

00:39:32.580 not getting

00:39:33.020 along

00:39:33.360 and this is

00:39:34.440 an echo

00:39:34.860 right

00:39:35.180 it's an echo

00:39:35.680 of Cain

00:39:36.100 and Abel

00:39:36.480 and there's

00:39:38.060 a mythological

00:39:38.920 motif

00:39:39.340 that the

00:39:39.980 Jungians have

00:39:40.500 called the

00:39:40.880 hostile brothers

00:39:41.780 the hostile

00:39:42.360 brothers

00:39:42.760 and you see

00:39:43.520 them all the

00:39:43.960 time

00:39:44.160 Batman and

00:39:44.720 the Joker

00:39:45.120 are hostile

00:39:45.720 brothers

00:39:46.100 and Thor

00:39:46.680 and Loki

00:39:47.140 are hostile

00:39:47.720 brothers

00:39:48.140 and it's

00:39:48.960 an unbelievably

00:39:49.580 common

00:39:50.120 motif

00:39:50.620 and you know

00:39:52.800 the ultimate

00:39:53.220 hostile brothers

00:39:53.980 are Christ

00:39:54.500 and Satan

00:39:55.000 so that's

00:39:55.580 the archetypal

00:39:57.140 representation

00:39:57.780 of the hostile

00:39:58.740 brothers

00:39:59.240 right

00:40:00.040 the ultimate

00:40:00.460 good

00:40:00.740 and the ultimate

00:40:01.220 evil

00:40:01.580 and so

00:40:02.640 and so it's

00:40:04.020 an echo

00:40:04.360 of the Cain

00:40:04.840 and Abel

00:40:05.160 story

00:40:05.560 although

00:40:06.700 it's a little

00:40:07.500 more complex

00:40:08.240 I would say

00:40:09.100 from a literary

00:40:09.980 point of view

00:40:10.500 because it isn't

00:40:11.620 obvious which

00:40:12.780 of these brothers

00:40:13.640 is Cain

00:40:14.200 and which of

00:40:14.700 them is Abel

00:40:15.240 they have parts

00:40:16.300 of both

00:40:17.180 in each of

00:40:17.880 them

00:40:18.060 so Esau

00:40:19.380 who turns out

00:40:20.440 to be one

00:40:21.080 of the brothers

00:40:21.520 and Jacob

00:40:21.980 who turns out

00:40:22.580 to be the other

00:40:23.060 both have

00:40:23.900 their admirable

00:40:25.280 qualities

00:40:26.080 and their faults

00:40:26.900 anyways

00:40:27.780 Esau

00:40:28.920 comes

00:40:29.860 is born

00:40:30.460 first

00:40:30.860 but Jacob

00:40:32.160 has him

00:40:32.580 by the heel

00:40:33.140 and so

00:40:34.420 there was

00:40:34.740 a fight

00:40:35.280 within

00:40:36.060 the womb

00:40:36.980 to see

00:40:37.640 who would

00:40:37.900 emerge

00:40:38.200 first

00:40:38.540 now

00:40:38.740 that's relevant

00:40:40.440 because the

00:40:40.960 firstborn

00:40:41.560 had a special

00:40:43.220 status

00:40:43.720 well has a special

00:40:44.520 status in many

00:40:45.220 communities

00:40:45.660 especially agricultural

00:40:47.040 communities

00:40:47.600 and there's

00:40:47.980 the reason

00:40:48.820 these people

00:40:49.640 were more

00:40:50.060 herds people

00:40:51.020 but

00:40:51.240 if you divide

00:40:52.300 your property

00:40:52.780 equally among

00:40:53.480 all your children

00:40:54.140 then in like

00:40:54.660 three generations

00:40:55.320 everybody has

00:40:55.920 one goat

00:40:56.640 and everybody

00:40:57.280 starves to death

00:40:58.100 you know

00:40:58.840 or the same

00:40:59.500 thing happens

00:41:00.000 with land

00:41:00.580 so

00:41:00.920 one of the ways

00:41:02.160 that traditional

00:41:03.460 communities solve

00:41:04.240 that is

00:41:04.500 they just give

00:41:05.000 almost everything

00:41:06.040 to the firstborn

00:41:06.840 and then

00:41:07.620 everyone else knows

00:41:08.980 well you go out

00:41:09.740 and do whatever

00:41:10.160 you can

00:41:10.620 and it's kind of

00:41:11.240 arbitrary and unfair

00:41:12.160 but

00:41:12.520 you know

00:41:13.340 at least it's

00:41:14.000 predictably arbitrary

00:41:15.180 and unfair

00:41:15.840 instead of

00:41:16.900 doom

00:41:17.420 over four generations

00:41:19.060 you know

00:41:19.480 so it actually

00:41:20.460 mattered to be

00:41:21.160 the firstborn

00:41:21.800 and God

00:41:22.940 generally favors

00:41:23.860 the firstborn

00:41:24.660 and then you might

00:41:26.320 think

00:41:26.540 well what is it

00:41:27.120 about being born

00:41:27.840 first that's so

00:41:28.640 relevant

00:41:29.020 apart from

00:41:29.980 the cultural

00:41:32.140 practice of

00:41:32.940 a more generous

00:41:34.220 inheritance

00:41:34.680 and I would say

00:41:35.640 well the firstborn

00:41:36.300 is something like

00:41:37.300 the model for the

00:41:38.100 leader of the

00:41:38.700 family right

00:41:39.220 because the firstborn

00:41:40.540 child should be

00:41:41.460 if there's a number

00:41:42.300 of siblings

00:41:42.820 A should take care

00:41:45.000 of the siblings

00:41:45.480 at least to some

00:41:46.220 degree

00:41:46.500 but also should be

00:41:47.480 a role model

00:41:48.120 for them

00:41:48.480 so it's like a

00:41:49.160 natural position

00:41:50.000 of leadership

00:41:50.520 but there's a

00:41:52.040 psychological

00:41:53.600 apologization

00:41:54.280 of the idea

00:41:54.920 of the firstborn

00:41:55.620 in these stories

00:41:56.260 because God

00:41:57.160 often passes

00:41:58.000 over the firstborn

00:41:59.020 in favor of

00:42:00.140 a later born

00:42:01.020 child

00:42:01.460 he seems to do

00:42:03.440 that on the basis

00:42:04.600 of moral character

00:42:05.540 essentially

00:42:06.100 and so there's

00:42:06.960 this idea

00:42:07.460 that well

00:42:08.480 there's a natural

00:42:09.420 proclivity

00:42:10.720 towards leadership

00:42:11.820 that's just a

00:42:12.580 biological fact

00:42:13.620 that would be

00:42:14.080 associated with

00:42:14.820 being a firstborn

00:42:15.680 but there's an

00:42:16.720 element of

00:42:17.340 characterological

00:42:18.200 development

00:42:18.800 that transcends

00:42:19.700 that

00:42:19.980 and so that

00:42:20.580 it's more important

00:42:22.060 to be spiritually

00:42:22.940 a firstborn

00:42:23.760 let's say

00:42:24.220 than to be

00:42:24.660 biologically

00:42:25.280 a firstborn

00:42:26.020 and God

00:42:26.800 recognizes that

00:42:27.900 continually

00:42:28.940 in these stories

00:42:29.720 and inverts

00:42:30.820 the natural order

00:42:31.740 and favors

00:42:32.360 a later born

00:42:33.200 who's done

00:42:35.020 more work

00:42:35.700 with regards

00:42:36.260 to characterological

00:42:37.220 development

00:42:37.720 and that's also

00:42:38.620 interesting too

00:42:39.360 you know

00:42:39.660 I've talked to

00:42:40.720 lots of business

00:42:41.320 people about

00:42:41.960 leadership

00:42:42.380 and there's a

00:42:43.520 literature on

00:42:44.040 leadership

00:42:44.320 but it's not

00:42:45.400 a good literature

00:42:46.040 it's pretty

00:42:46.800 shallow

00:42:47.260 partly because

00:42:48.580 it's not that

00:42:48.980 easy to define

00:42:49.620 leadership

00:42:50.040 and partly

00:42:50.880 because there

00:42:51.460 are different

00:42:52.180 you know

00:42:53.640 people have

00:42:54.380 different temperaments

00:42:55.240 and different temperaments

00:42:56.800 can be leaders

00:42:57.600 they just do it

00:42:58.440 in different ways

00:42:59.280 now there's something

00:43:00.160 in common

00:43:00.720 about being a leader

00:43:01.620 though

00:43:01.820 and I would say

00:43:02.640 one is that

00:43:03.320 if you're an actual

00:43:04.240 leader

00:43:04.520 you actually know

00:43:05.340 where you're going

00:43:06.020 right

00:43:06.760 because what are you

00:43:07.780 going to do

00:43:08.060 lead people in circles

00:43:09.200 it's like

00:43:09.740 maybe they'll follow you

00:43:10.560 but you're not a leader

00:43:11.260 you're just a charlatan

00:43:12.240 so you have to know

00:43:13.260 where you're going

00:43:13.900 and then you have to be able

00:43:14.980 to communicate that

00:43:15.940 and then

00:43:16.620 people have to trust you

00:43:18.280 so you actually have to be honest

00:43:19.720 because people aren't that stupid

00:43:20.880 at least not for a long period of time

00:43:22.640 and then

00:43:23.800 where you're going

00:43:25.080 has to have some value

00:43:26.180 because otherwise

00:43:27.060 why would anyone want to go along with you

00:43:28.940 so

00:43:29.900 and then you might say

00:43:31.380 well what are the attributes

00:43:32.780 then that make you a leader

00:43:34.040 and I would say

00:43:34.660 well they're characterological

00:43:35.700 fundamentally

00:43:36.640 and

00:43:37.160 this is not

00:43:38.300 naive optimism

00:43:39.860 or

00:43:40.560 casual moralizing

00:43:42.980 it has nothing to do with that

00:43:44.300 you know

00:43:45.240 we know for example

00:43:46.160 that conscientiousness

00:43:48.580 the personality trait

00:43:49.760 is a good predictor

00:43:50.820 of long term success

00:43:51.960 in most occupations

00:43:53.700 not all

00:43:54.460 but most

00:43:54.960 and that one of the things

00:43:56.040 that's associated with conscientiousness

00:43:57.600 is that people keep their word

00:43:59.120 they're trustworthy

00:43:59.700 and that's certainly

00:44:01.220 one element of a leader

00:44:02.340 especially across

00:44:03.160 any reasonable amount of time

00:44:04.400 you have to be able

00:44:05.480 to trust the person

00:44:06.280 they can even be harsh

00:44:07.540 right

00:44:07.860 it doesn't matter

00:44:08.520 because you can see harsh leaders

00:44:09.700 and kind leaders

00:44:10.480 but as long as they do

00:44:11.820 what they say

00:44:12.600 they will do

00:44:13.320 then you can follow them

00:44:15.320 and you know that

00:44:16.080 the future payoff

00:44:17.320 is secure

00:44:19.460 something like that

00:44:20.440 so

00:44:21.440 the idea that

00:44:22.600 characterological development

00:44:23.980 is more important to leadership

00:44:25.340 than

00:44:25.760 primogenitor

00:44:26.800 I think that's the right word

00:44:28.200 primogenesis

00:44:30.260 anyways

00:44:30.840 being a firstborn

00:44:31.680 that's a very crucial

00:44:33.840 psychological realization

00:44:35.260 that it's characterological development

00:44:37.520 that makes you favored of God

00:44:39.240 you know

00:44:40.080 and

00:44:40.260 I do think we've forgotten this

00:44:42.500 in many ways

00:44:43.140 because

00:44:43.420 there isn't a lot of emphasis

00:44:45.200 in our education system

00:44:46.860 on characterological development

00:44:48.360 and that's very very surprising to me

00:44:50.740 I think maybe it's partly because

00:44:52.040 in our fractured society

00:44:53.960 we can't agree on

00:44:55.080 what constitutes

00:44:56.060 a reasonable characterological goal

00:44:58.700 so

00:44:59.380 we just

00:44:59.960 throw up our hands

00:45:01.000 and don't educate our kids

00:45:02.760 to any degree at all

00:45:04.740 especially in schools

00:45:05.640 about

00:45:05.940 what an admirable person is like

00:45:07.960 or even let them know that

00:45:09.120 well maybe you should actually

00:45:10.360 try to be one

00:45:11.200 you know

00:45:11.500 that that's actually

00:45:12.320 the most important possible thing

00:45:14.760 that you could learn

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00:48:17.880 who are admirable

00:48:18.680 then things work

00:48:20.820 and if there aren't

00:48:21.700 then things

00:48:22.360 things are terrible

00:48:24.960 you get wiped out

00:48:26.540 you remember

00:48:26.980 when Abraham is bargaining

00:48:28.740 with God

00:48:29.380 with regards to

00:48:31.360 Sodom and Gomorrah

00:48:32.180 he asks God

00:48:34.240 to save the city

00:48:35.000 if there's like

00:48:35.500 40

00:48:36.000 admirable people

00:48:37.860 right

00:48:38.180 respectable

00:48:38.780 but let's say admirable

00:48:40.200 right

00:48:40.520 I don't want to

00:48:41.160 I don't want to say good

00:48:42.200 because good is being corrupted

00:48:43.580 in some sense

00:48:44.300 by casual usage

00:48:45.480 I mean admirable

00:48:47.160 noble people

00:48:48.180 right

00:48:48.540 I think

00:48:49.740 Abraham bargains God

00:48:51.380 down to like 10

00:48:52.280 if there's 10 of them

00:48:53.300 in the city

00:48:53.780 the city won't be destroyed

00:48:55.040 and that's not very many

00:48:56.440 in a city

00:48:56.960 so there's an interesting

00:48:58.220 idea there

00:48:58.840 which is that

00:48:59.340 there doesn't have to be

00:49:01.020 that many people

00:49:02.040 in a group

00:49:02.620 who have their act together

00:49:03.820 but zero is the wrong number

00:49:06.040 and if it's zero

00:49:07.540 then

00:49:08.100 then

00:49:08.480 we're

00:49:09.240 seriously in trouble

00:49:10.900 and

00:49:11.980 I think that goes along

00:49:13.340 with the idea

00:49:13.920 of the Pareto principle

00:49:14.960 in economics too

00:49:15.960 which is that

00:49:16.460 it's a small minority

00:49:17.380 of people

00:49:17.940 who do most of the

00:49:18.700 productive work

00:49:19.320 in any given domain

00:49:20.260 but

00:49:20.940 so

00:49:21.900 a small number

00:49:23.260 of

00:49:23.520 properly behaving people

00:49:25.480 might have enough

00:49:26.120 of an impact

00:49:26.660 to keep everything

00:49:27.400 moving

00:49:27.960 and that might

00:49:28.460 actually be true

00:49:29.960 but it can't fall

00:49:31.060 below some crucial level

00:49:32.320 and I do think

00:49:33.480 that we're in some danger

00:49:34.580 of allowing it

00:49:35.280 to fall below

00:49:35.860 some crucial level

00:49:36.780 because

00:49:37.120 our society

00:49:38.180 seems to be

00:49:38.820 at war

00:49:39.440 in some ways

00:49:40.140 against the idea

00:49:41.140 of the individual

00:49:42.480 and individual character

00:49:44.080 per se

00:49:45.160 and I think

00:49:46.440 that's absolutely

00:49:47.280 I think that's

00:49:49.940 absolutely

00:49:50.400 catastrophic

00:49:51.120 and that's part

00:49:52.500 of the reason

00:49:52.840 that I'm doing

00:49:53.260 these biblical lectures

00:49:54.160 you know

00:49:54.440 because I think

00:49:55.360 that

00:49:55.600 I've known

00:49:57.000 for a long time

00:49:57.880 that

00:49:59.080 the moral presuppositions

00:50:01.060 of a culture

00:50:01.640 are instantiated

00:50:02.880 in its stories

00:50:03.800 they're not instantiated

00:50:05.460 in its explicit philosophy

00:50:06.780 there might be

00:50:07.780 a layer of explicit philosophy

00:50:09.300 and of course

00:50:10.040 there is in the west

00:50:10.800 and a layer of explicit law

00:50:12.120 but underneath that

00:50:12.940 there are stories

00:50:13.780 and there isn't anything

00:50:15.260 under the stories

00:50:16.120 except maybe

00:50:16.860 behavior

00:50:17.840 you know

00:50:18.400 and that's so implicit

00:50:19.480 it doesn't even

00:50:20.160 actually count

00:50:21.240 it's not a cognitive operation

00:50:23.100 and so

00:50:24.080 this is the story

00:50:25.080 these are the stories

00:50:26.040 that are underneath

00:50:26.480 our culture

00:50:27.160 and so

00:50:28.400 there better be

00:50:30.220 something to them

00:50:31.040 that's what we hope

00:50:32.560 but more importantly

00:50:33.860 maybe we shouldn't

00:50:35.220 toss them away

00:50:35.880 without knowing

00:50:36.540 what they mean

00:50:37.580 because

00:50:38.000 if we toss them away

00:50:39.480 then

00:50:39.820 we're throwing everything

00:50:41.320 that we depend on away

00:50:42.480 as far as I can tell

00:50:43.520 and we will pay for it

00:50:45.360 we'll pay for it individually

00:50:46.640 because we'll be weak

00:50:47.700 you know

00:50:48.500 because if you're not firm

00:50:49.540 in your convictions

00:50:50.280 then

00:50:51.200 someone else

00:50:52.280 who's firm in their convictions

00:50:53.340 you're their puppet

00:50:54.620 like instantly

00:50:55.420 and then you're also

00:50:56.460 the puppet of your own doubts

00:50:57.680 right

00:50:57.960 because

00:50:58.300 unless you have convictions

00:50:59.940 you're going to generate doubts

00:51:01.920 like mad

00:51:02.420 because everyone does

00:51:03.360 and then the doubts win

00:51:04.740 and you'll be paralyzed

00:51:06.180 because

00:51:06.740 there'll be

00:51:07.300 you know

00:51:07.680 50% of you moving forward

00:51:09.260 and 50% of you frozen stiff

00:51:11.300 and that'll be enough

00:51:12.340 just to

00:51:13.000 lodge you in place

00:51:14.480 and so

00:51:15.520 okay

00:51:19.440 so there's a

00:51:19.920 psychologization

00:51:20.600 of the idea of leadership

00:51:21.800 which is very important

00:51:22.740 and then it's associated

00:51:23.700 with the idea of

00:51:24.500 characterological development

00:51:25.680 and it's associated

00:51:26.520 with the idea of struggle

00:51:27.740 not happiness

00:51:29.040 and it's also associated

00:51:30.760 with this Abrahamic idea

00:51:32.040 which I really liked

00:51:32.900 and which was something

00:51:34.340 that's been very useful to me

00:51:35.620 as a consequence

00:51:36.560 of doing these lectures

00:51:37.500 because

00:51:37.800 remember at the beginning

00:51:39.560 of the Abrahamic stories

00:51:40.720 Abraham's like a stay-at-home guy

00:51:42.560 right

00:51:42.800 he's like the guy

00:51:43.600 who's 40 years old

00:51:44.460 living in his

00:51:45.000 in his mother's basement

00:51:46.440 and God says like

00:51:47.780 get the hell out of there

00:51:48.820 you know

00:51:49.100 get out in the world

00:51:49.860 where you belong

00:51:50.760 go do something

00:51:51.680 difficult

00:51:52.520 because

00:51:53.580 what you're doing

00:51:54.580 isn't acceptable

00:51:55.620 and you know

00:51:56.140 the first thing he does

00:51:56.880 is go somewhere

00:51:57.480 there's a terrible famine

00:51:58.620 and then he goes somewhere

00:51:59.440 there's a tyranny

00:52:00.240 so you know

00:52:01.300 it's pretty funny

00:52:02.460 he follows God's call

00:52:03.600 and it's not like

00:52:04.340 sweetness and light

00:52:06.100 and paradise

00:52:06.760 immediately

00:52:07.620 it's nothing like that

00:52:08.820 it's instantaneous

00:52:09.980 combat

00:52:11.280 you know

00:52:11.780 of the most difficult kind

00:52:13.500 so but

00:52:14.820 but

00:52:16.240 Abraham does in fact

00:52:18.000 follow that impulse

00:52:19.420 and you know

00:52:20.100 it's interesting too

00:52:21.620 I mean

00:52:22.120 I don't know

00:52:22.740 here's another thing

00:52:23.860 that made me a really

00:52:24.640 an advocate of

00:52:26.000 psychoanalytic thinking

00:52:27.340 it was the sort of thing

00:52:29.340 that started to terrify me

00:52:30.600 about what the human psyche

00:52:31.960 was actually like

00:52:32.760 I started to understand

00:52:33.760 that not only were we

00:52:34.920 like an amalgam of

00:52:36.720 relatively autonomous

00:52:38.580 sub-personalities

00:52:39.680 each of which had the

00:52:40.780 possibility of gaining control

00:52:42.720 but that

00:52:44.100 we were also

00:52:45.400 victim

00:52:47.020 you might say

00:52:48.000 or beneficiary

00:52:49.040 of impulses

00:52:50.620 that were beyond

00:52:51.320 our conscious

00:52:52.020 formulation

00:52:53.220 or

00:52:53.840 or

00:52:54.880 or understanding

00:52:55.800 or capacity

00:52:56.580 to resist

00:52:57.380 so

00:52:58.040 here's a funny story

00:52:59.940 so

00:53:00.180 I was talking to

00:53:01.220 one of my Patreon people

00:53:03.080 online this week

00:53:03.920 and

00:53:04.060 he said

00:53:04.960 he was a committed atheist

00:53:06.800 and

00:53:07.140 that's fine

00:53:07.980 you know

00:53:08.260 lots of atheists

00:53:09.080 are very honest people

00:53:10.060 and they're atheists

00:53:10.740 because they don't know

00:53:11.800 how to

00:53:12.520 reconcile

00:53:13.520 what they know

00:53:14.560 with

00:53:15.240 traditional claims

00:53:16.900 let's say

00:53:17.320 and they're not willing to

00:53:18.320 just mangle them together

00:53:19.900 you know

00:53:20.340 and there might be cynicism

00:53:21.620 all that associated

00:53:22.600 with it as well

00:53:23.240 but he said

00:53:23.760 he was

00:53:24.580 he said he was

00:53:25.460 entranced by these

00:53:26.540 biblical lectures

00:53:27.360 you know

00:53:27.740 which is pretty weird

00:53:28.920 and he said

00:53:29.660 if someone would have

00:53:30.260 told him a year ago

00:53:31.080 that he was going to

00:53:31.960 like be obsessed

00:53:33.100 with a sequence

00:53:33.920 of biblical lectures

00:53:34.760 he would have told them

00:53:35.480 that they were mad

00:53:36.500 and

00:53:37.440 so we had a bit of a

00:53:38.380 discussion about that

00:53:39.340 because this is an

00:53:40.300 interesting thing

00:53:41.060 you know

00:53:41.320 and he mentioned this

00:53:43.180 he said

00:53:43.560 it was something like

00:53:45.140 you don't choose

00:53:45.960 your interests

00:53:46.500 they choose you

00:53:47.600 and that's really

00:53:49.040 worth thinking about

00:53:49.820 too man

00:53:50.300 because

00:53:50.600 you know

00:53:51.300 it's really hard

00:53:52.180 to get interested

00:53:52.900 in something

00:53:53.300 you're not interested in

00:53:54.220 even if you know

00:53:54.840 there's a good reason

00:53:55.540 for it

00:53:55.980 you know

00:53:56.320 you're studying

00:53:56.860 for an exam

00:53:57.440 you find the material

00:53:58.440 boring

00:53:58.880 you know

00:54:00.020 anything will be

00:54:01.460 more interesting

00:54:02.120 than the studying

00:54:03.340 even though you know

00:54:04.420 that that's what

00:54:04.980 you need to do

00:54:05.520 you can't

00:54:06.480 voluntarily grab yourself

00:54:08.060 by the scruff

00:54:08.720 of the neck

00:54:09.280 let's say

00:54:09.720 and shake yourself

00:54:10.760 and say

00:54:11.100 sit down

00:54:11.640 and concentrate

00:54:12.320 your mind will

00:54:13.200 just go everywhere

00:54:14.020 but then if you're

00:54:14.980 interested in something

00:54:15.980 and even if it's

00:54:17.300 something you shouldn't

00:54:18.040 be interested in

00:54:18.820 because that happens

00:54:19.500 all the time

00:54:20.040 then it's like

00:54:20.880 you're a laser focus

00:54:21.980 man

00:54:22.340 you can pay

00:54:23.040 attention forever

00:54:23.820 you can work

00:54:24.460 until you're exhausted

00:54:25.360 you won't even

00:54:25.900 notice it

00:54:26.340 and you remember

00:54:26.900 everything

00:54:27.420 it's like

00:54:28.140 okay

00:54:28.460 if you can't

00:54:29.900 control your interest

00:54:31.120 what does

00:54:32.860 and man

00:54:34.800 and then I tell you

00:54:35.260 you can think about

00:54:35.840 that for a very long

00:54:36.680 time

00:54:36.900 so Jung talked about

00:54:38.240 the spirit

00:54:38.900 Mercurius

00:54:39.820 you know

00:54:40.500 Mercury is the

00:54:41.240 winged messenger

00:54:41.820 of the gods

00:54:42.500 and here's how

00:54:43.680 he conceptualized

00:54:44.580 it psychologically

00:54:45.200 he thought

00:54:45.740 this is what

00:54:46.260 the ancient people

00:54:47.620 who thought about

00:54:49.360 Mercury

00:54:49.800 as the winged messenger

00:54:50.800 of the gods

00:54:51.280 were trying to

00:54:51.800 state psychologically

00:54:52.760 you know

00:54:53.040 your interest

00:54:54.120 flits around

00:54:55.020 it's like

00:54:55.480 there's something

00:54:56.180 that captures it

00:54:57.180 and that moves

00:54:58.120 your interest

00:54:58.640 from place to place

00:54:59.580 you know

00:54:59.840 like if you walk

00:55:00.440 into a bookstore

00:55:01.000 you'll get interested

00:55:01.740 in a particular book

00:55:02.740 and it's as if

00:55:04.000 the book grips you

00:55:05.180 because you don't know

00:55:06.020 why you're interested

00:55:06.600 in that

00:55:06.840 you might

00:55:07.280 but often you don't

00:55:08.140 know why you're

00:55:08.620 interested in that book

00:55:09.460 and you know

00:55:10.040 your interest is

00:55:10.700 flitting around

00:55:11.400 and so that's Mercury

00:55:12.920 the thing that makes

00:55:13.780 your interest flicker

00:55:15.080 around is Mercury

00:55:15.920 the winged messenger

00:55:16.940 of the gods

00:55:17.520 and Mercury

00:55:18.980 is the messenger

00:55:19.900 of the gods

00:55:20.480 because it's the things

00:55:21.500 behind the scenes

00:55:22.560 psychologically

00:55:23.220 that are manipulating

00:55:24.060 your attention

00:55:24.700 and for Jung

00:55:25.980 those were equivalent

00:55:26.760 in some sense

00:55:27.480 to the lost gods

00:55:28.480 and so for Jung

00:55:29.780 your interest

00:55:31.420 was being manipulated

00:55:33.360 behind the scenes

00:55:34.500 by unseen forces

00:55:35.540 that were associated

00:55:36.460 with your

00:55:36.880 characterological development

00:55:38.020 across time

00:55:38.680 that was the manifestation

00:55:39.620 of the self

00:55:40.540 so the self

00:55:41.840 is this

00:55:42.300 the potential you

00:55:44.640 let's say

00:55:45.260 and the way it operates

00:55:46.780 in the present

00:55:47.360 is by gripping your interest

00:55:48.700 and directing it somewhere

00:55:49.900 and that's part of

00:55:50.920 the instinct

00:55:51.580 of self-realization

00:55:52.800 it's a mind-boggling idea

00:55:54.840 man

00:55:55.120 really

00:55:55.400 it's

00:55:55.700 I think it's correct

00:55:57.220 I can't see how

00:55:58.240 it can't be correct

00:55:59.040 it doesn't mean

00:55:59.480 I understand it completely

00:56:00.640 but

00:56:00.920 it certainly seems

00:56:02.180 phenomenologically correct

00:56:03.500 and

00:56:03.740 I mean

00:56:04.920 the potential

00:56:05.900 that you are

00:56:06.500 has to manifest itself

00:56:07.760 somehow

00:56:08.300 in the here and now

00:56:09.660 it has to

00:56:10.760 and what better way

00:56:12.280 than by directing

00:56:13.020 your attention

00:56:13.720 you know

00:56:14.140 it's like

00:56:14.440 it seems like

00:56:15.020 this might be useful

00:56:15.980 for you

00:56:16.400 or maybe you get

00:56:16.900 attracted to this person

00:56:18.060 maybe you admire

00:56:19.040 this person

00:56:19.660 that happens

00:56:20.160 with kids a lot

00:56:20.980 they'll admire someone

00:56:21.820 and then copy them

00:56:22.680 and you can see

00:56:23.620 that that's obviously

00:56:24.540 part of their

00:56:25.180 developmental progression

00:56:26.400 right

00:56:27.220 it's a form of hero worship

00:56:28.480 but kids are very imitative

00:56:29.740 and they hero worship

00:56:30.560 at the drop of a hat

00:56:31.700 and so

00:56:32.680 they're

00:56:33.240 they're entranced

00:56:34.280 by

00:56:34.620 the next stage

00:56:37.060 of development

00:56:37.660 and if they see

00:56:38.380 someone who embodies that

00:56:39.600 especially if it's in the zone

00:56:41.020 of proximal development

00:56:42.020 it's

00:56:42.380 it's something

00:56:42.840 they could achieve

00:56:44.300 stretching a bit

00:56:45.780 they find someone

00:56:46.740 who embodies

00:56:47.380 that next stage

00:56:48.200 of development

00:56:48.680 and then they start

00:56:49.440 to imitate them

00:56:50.460 and act like them

00:56:51.580 well

00:56:52.080 adults are no different

00:56:53.500 we're no different

00:56:54.380 we're just

00:56:54.860 we do it

00:56:55.660 at a perhaps

00:56:56.300 more abstract

00:56:57.260 and sophisticated level

00:56:58.380 so

00:56:59.340 okay

00:56:59.960 so

00:57:00.440 Jacob and Esau

00:57:02.120 are

00:57:02.460 hostile brothers

00:57:05.220 they're

00:57:05.540 they're like Cain and Abel

00:57:06.700 except the mixture

00:57:07.460 of Cain and Abel

00:57:08.080 and they're very different

00:57:08.920 Esau was red

00:57:11.060 and covered with hair

00:57:11.880 he was a hunter

00:57:12.500 and a man of the field

00:57:13.320 so he's like

00:57:13.880 your basic jock

00:57:14.960 right

00:57:15.220 he's extroverted

00:57:16.020 he's outgoing

00:57:16.620 he's really tough

00:57:17.440 he's like

00:57:18.440 extraordinarily masculine

00:57:19.900 he hunts

00:57:20.780 and he's a real

00:57:21.760 favorite of his father

00:57:22.780 and so

00:57:23.520 and

00:57:24.120 and Jacob

00:57:25.080 isn't

00:57:25.880 he's a dweller in tents

00:57:27.200 and

00:57:28.060 yeah right

00:57:29.560 exactly

00:57:30.120 exactly

00:57:31.200 exactly

00:57:31.760 right

00:57:32.300 and

00:57:32.660 it says

00:57:33.500 Isaac loved Esau

00:57:34.520 but Rebecca loved Jacob

00:57:36.120 now that's a problem

00:57:37.140 right

00:57:37.420 that's a big problem

00:57:38.560 and there's a Freudian element

00:57:39.900 to this

00:57:40.300 it's like

00:57:40.600 this family is now divided

00:57:42.260 because

00:57:42.680 one child is the favorite

00:57:44.180 of the mother

00:57:44.720 and that's

00:57:45.840 Jacob

00:57:46.380 and one child is the favorite

00:57:47.660 of the father

00:57:48.220 and so

00:57:48.540 Jacob is kind of a

00:57:49.860 mother's boy

00:57:50.920 I guess to use

00:57:51.740 a rather archaic phrase

00:57:53.660 and

00:57:54.340 certainly

00:57:55.420 not as admirable

00:57:56.940 from his father's perspective

00:57:58.240 as

00:57:58.640 Esau

00:57:59.360 who's a tough guy

00:58:00.180 who goes out with a bow and arrow

00:58:01.340 and like

00:58:01.760 you know

00:58:02.380 wanders around on the plains

00:58:03.580 and brings animals home

00:58:04.780 and

00:58:04.960 and

00:58:05.640 he's tough

00:58:06.460 he's a tough guy

00:58:07.420 so

00:58:08.520 and

00:58:09.420 but

00:58:09.880 but

00:58:10.360 there's this

00:58:11.100 discord in the family

00:58:12.580 because

00:58:12.980 one parent prefers one child

00:58:14.620 and the other parent

00:58:15.340 prefers the other

00:58:15.980 and

00:58:16.440 it's obvious

00:58:17.360 from the story

00:58:18.060 that the parents

00:58:18.760 do not communicate

00:58:19.540 about this

00:58:20.120 because they really

00:58:21.120 take sides

00:58:21.820 and so there's a split

00:58:22.780 in the family

00:58:23.460 and that's

00:58:24.620 I think

00:58:24.940 very realistic

00:58:25.820 because

00:58:26.220 one of the things

00:58:27.360 that you do learn

00:58:28.040 if you have a family

00:58:28.980 and of course

00:58:29.400 most of you do

00:58:30.060 but if you also

00:58:30.700 think about families

00:58:31.720 is that

00:58:32.160 there's

00:58:32.860 there's deep divisions

00:58:34.620 within families

00:58:35.520 very very frequently

00:58:36.620 that no one

00:58:37.280 will ever talk about

00:58:38.320 and

00:58:39.440 or even think about often

00:58:41.140 because it's too painful

00:58:42.200 to think about

00:58:42.940 Freud himself said

00:58:44.580 Freud was clearly

00:58:45.360 his mother's favorite

00:58:46.240 and

00:58:46.940 the family

00:58:47.600 sacrificed a lot

00:58:48.780 including

00:58:49.240 some of the potential

00:58:50.620 ambitions of the other

00:58:51.660 children

00:58:52.000 in order to

00:58:52.660 kind of put

00:58:53.320 Sigmund Freud up

00:58:54.140 on a pedestal

00:58:54.800 and

00:58:54.960 advance his education

00:58:56.580 and it worked

00:58:57.380 I mean

00:58:57.720 he turned into

00:58:59.060 a great man

00:58:59.700 but

00:58:59.880 there was a cost

00:59:00.900 to his siblings

00:59:01.540 and Freud himself

00:59:02.720 said that there was

00:59:03.400 something about

00:59:04.020 being

00:59:04.380 the favorite

00:59:05.220 of the mother

00:59:05.880 that gave

00:59:06.940 a person

00:59:07.920 additional confidence

00:59:10.020 throughout their life

00:59:11.060 and

00:59:11.440 you know

00:59:12.100 there's

00:59:12.460 there's something

00:59:13.340 to be said

00:59:13.840 about that

00:59:14.320 even someone

00:59:14.920 like Eric Erickson

00:59:15.860 you know

00:59:16.140 he noted that

00:59:16.840 very interested

00:59:17.920 in child development

00:59:18.700 that that first

00:59:19.500 bonding with the mother

00:59:20.620 was the

00:59:21.440 was the place

00:59:22.360 where trust

00:59:23.060 was established

00:59:23.860 maybe trust

00:59:24.580 even in the goodness

00:59:25.380 of existence

00:59:26.100 was established

00:59:26.960 and so

00:59:27.520 anyways

00:59:28.080 Jacob is

00:59:28.760 Rachel's favorite

00:59:29.960 and

00:59:31.380 Esau is Isaac's favorite

00:59:34.760 now

00:59:40.060 Esau

00:59:40.540 being extroverted

00:59:42.320 let's say

00:59:42.760 is also a bit

00:59:43.420 impulsive

00:59:43.920 and

00:59:44.240 maybe he's not

00:59:45.200 he's a man of action

00:59:46.900 he's not a forward

00:59:47.700 thinker

00:59:48.220 and

00:59:48.440 but he's also

00:59:49.760 doing hard work

00:59:50.500 and so

00:59:50.880 you know

00:59:51.240 he goes out

00:59:51.920 and he's hunting

00:59:52.480 and he's worn out

00:59:53.240 and he comes home

00:59:54.800 and he's faint

00:59:55.360 with hunger

00:59:55.860 and

00:59:56.620 Jacob is at home

00:59:59.280 cooking

00:59:59.700 he's boiling up lentils

01:00:01.080 red lentils

01:00:01.880 and

01:00:02.140 you know

01:00:03.480 Esau comes in

01:00:04.360 from the hunt

01:00:05.100 and he's like

01:00:05.580 half starved to death

01:00:06.520 and

01:00:06.720 he's sitting there

01:00:08.020 and the aroma

01:00:09.400 of these red lentils

01:00:10.400 reaches him

01:00:11.180 and

01:00:11.360 he's exhausted

01:00:13.280 and

01:00:13.660 and

01:00:14.240 and

01:00:14.900 he

01:00:15.940 tells

01:00:16.640 Jacob

01:00:17.120 that he wants

01:00:17.700 some

01:00:17.980 of this

01:00:18.900 stew

01:00:19.780 and

01:00:20.280 Jacob

01:00:21.160 who's being a pain

01:00:23.140 in the neck

01:00:23.620 fundamentally

01:00:24.280 basically says

01:00:26.320 no

01:00:26.700 there's a

01:00:27.140 there's a teasing

01:00:27.840 thing going on here

01:00:29.120 and

01:00:29.920 and won't give him any

01:00:31.020 and

01:00:31.280 and

01:00:31.600 there's

01:00:32.600 you have to imagine this

01:00:34.140 because it's not laid out

01:00:35.200 explicitly in the story

01:00:36.260 but

01:00:36.460 there's

01:00:37.320 some dispute

01:00:38.420 about whether

01:00:39.180 Esau gets to have lunch

01:00:41.260 and

01:00:41.600 Jacob finally says

01:00:42.960 well I'll give you some

01:00:43.720 but you have to

01:00:44.360 you have to give me

01:00:45.500 your birthright

01:00:46.180 and

01:00:47.260 Esau

01:00:48.700 you think

01:00:49.180 he must say something like

01:00:50.320 you know

01:00:50.940 well

01:00:51.440 to hell with it

01:00:52.620 take it

01:00:53.440 you know

01:00:53.800 you son of a bitch

01:00:55.280 take it

01:00:55.920 just give me some damn stew

01:00:57.860 it's something like that

01:00:58.920 so

01:00:59.500 that's what happens

01:01:00.460 but you know

01:01:00.920 with these archaic people

01:01:01.980 once you made a statement

01:01:03.120 like that

01:01:03.600 that was

01:01:03.960 you were done

01:01:04.480 that was it

01:01:05.160 and so

01:01:06.340 Esau

01:01:08.660 sells his birthright

01:01:09.680 and

01:01:10.240 this turns out to be

01:01:11.280 incredibly

01:01:11.720 significant

01:01:12.760 Benson

01:01:15.040 who wrote

01:01:15.660 biblical commentary

01:01:16.480 said

01:01:16.920 oh

01:01:17.780 there's a bit of a twist

01:01:19.160 to it

01:01:19.440 so Esau

01:01:20.040 eats the

01:01:20.840 the red lentils

01:01:22.080 and then

01:01:22.440 from then on

01:01:23.120 his name is

01:01:23.600 Red

01:01:24.020 and

01:01:25.100 you've got to

01:01:25.740 use your imagination

01:01:26.500 a bit

01:01:27.060 I mean

01:01:27.380 people are making fun

01:01:29.040 of him

01:01:29.380 right

01:01:29.620 that's why

01:01:30.060 they're calling him

01:01:30.620 Red

01:01:30.880 I mean

01:01:31.220 he's already

01:01:31.700 Red

01:01:32.020 because we

01:01:32.440 established that

01:01:33.540 but no one

01:01:34.040 was calling him

01:01:34.640 Red before this

01:01:35.380 and so

01:01:35.640 for the rest

01:01:36.380 of his life

01:01:37.040 you know

01:01:38.100 every time he goes

01:01:39.040 out amongst his

01:01:39.800 friends and family

01:01:40.640 they call him

01:01:41.200 Red

01:01:41.480 and sort of

01:01:41.960 snicker

01:01:42.300 because he's

01:01:42.920 the you know

01:01:43.540 half famished idiot

01:01:44.840 who sold his birthright

01:01:45.920 for a bowl of lentils

01:01:47.180 and so

01:01:47.920 it's not

01:01:48.540 it's not

01:01:49.340 that funny

01:01:50.260 actually

01:01:50.900 and so

01:01:51.980 Esau is not happy

01:01:53.120 about this

01:01:53.600 and it actually

01:01:54.460 turns out

01:01:54.940 that this

01:01:55.260 so what does it

01:01:55.980 mean

01:01:56.220 it means

01:01:56.600 don't sell the future

01:01:57.740 for the desires

01:01:58.540 of the present

01:01:59.200 and don't be casual

01:02:00.440 about what you have

01:02:01.360 and then there's

01:02:02.100 an archetypal element

01:02:03.140 to this too

01:02:03.760 and Benson says

01:02:04.900 various have been

01:02:05.880 the opinions

01:02:06.400 what this birthright

01:02:07.320 was which Esau sold

01:02:08.760 but the most probable

01:02:10.000 is that

01:02:10.760 together with the right

01:02:12.100 of sacrificing

01:02:13.040 so determining

01:02:13.940 what should be

01:02:14.580 sacrificed and when

01:02:15.560 and being the priest

01:02:16.860 of the family

01:02:17.600 it included

01:02:18.760 the peculiar blessing

01:02:19.960 promised to the

01:02:20.920 seed of Abraham

01:02:21.660 that of being

01:02:22.880 the progenitor

01:02:23.660 of the Messiah

01:02:24.500 and the heir

01:02:25.520 of the special promises

01:02:26.700 of God

01:02:27.300 respecting Christ's

01:02:28.440 kingdom

01:02:28.720 it was at least

01:02:30.040 typical of spiritual

01:02:31.220 privileges

01:02:31.800 those of the firstborn

01:02:33.320 that are written

01:02:34.300 in heaven

01:02:34.820 well

01:02:36.860 that's

01:02:38.400 a lot harsher

01:02:40.360 than meets the eye

01:02:41.940 to begin with

01:02:42.640 and so

01:02:43.000 there's a very

01:02:43.980 interesting

01:02:44.600 deep

01:02:46.080 moral

01:02:46.980 story there

01:02:48.300 which is

01:02:48.840 it's sort of

01:02:51.460 Esau does the

01:02:52.240 opposite of a sacrifice

01:02:53.440 it's the reverse

01:02:54.460 right

01:02:54.760 he sacrifices

01:02:55.740 the future

01:02:56.220 for the present

01:02:56.880 and so

01:02:58.200 the story

01:02:59.300 basically says

01:03:00.200 the way it's

01:03:00.660 laid out

01:03:01.200 across stories

01:03:02.080 is that

01:03:02.440 if you're

01:03:02.740 the sort

01:03:03.080 of person

01:03:03.580 that

01:03:04.520 sacrifices

01:03:06.440 the future

01:03:06.960 to the present

01:03:07.560 then that

01:03:08.160 eradicates

01:03:09.340 the possibility

01:03:10.100 that you

01:03:10.620 will bring

01:03:11.240 the most noble

01:03:13.580 being

01:03:14.100 into existence

01:03:15.020 that's what

01:03:15.760 it means

01:03:16.180 and you can

01:03:16.960 again

01:03:17.480 this is the

01:03:18.640 psychological

01:03:19.220 significance

01:03:19.920 of the biblical

01:03:20.600 story

01:03:21.000 so

01:03:21.200 that's

01:03:21.860 a bad

01:03:22.280 thing

01:03:22.580 to do

01:03:23.000 if you

01:03:23.640 want

01:03:23.860 to

01:03:24.040 realize

01:03:24.780 your

01:03:25.040 potential

01:03:25.620 let's

01:03:26.020 say

01:03:26.220 you

01:03:26.800 don't do

01:03:27.180 reverse

01:03:27.640 sacrifices

01:03:28.360 that's a

01:03:28.880 very bad

01:03:29.340 idea

01:03:29.740 and so

01:03:30.320 Esau

01:03:30.760 really

01:03:31.160 did himself

01:03:32.000 in

01:03:32.280 by

01:03:32.600 being too

01:03:34.080 attached

01:03:35.040 to the

01:03:35.440 present

01:03:35.880 without a

01:03:36.820 vision

01:03:37.120 of the

01:03:37.500 future

01:03:37.860 so he's

01:03:38.380 too

01:03:38.560 in the

01:03:38.860 moment

01:03:39.180 you know

01:03:39.600 and

01:03:40.440 and he

01:03:41.440 pays

01:03:41.680 a heavy

01:03:42.040 price

01:03:42.400 for it

01:03:42.760 I mean

01:03:42.980 he's

01:03:43.280 first of all

01:03:44.580 he loses

01:03:44.920 his birthright

01:03:45.660 and his

01:03:46.480 double

01:03:46.820 inheritance

01:03:47.300 so there's

01:03:47.780 a practical

01:03:48.240 consequence

01:03:48.780 and then

01:03:49.100 there's

01:03:49.280 a spiritual

01:03:49.760 consequence

01:03:50.260 and then

01:03:50.620 he's

01:03:51.420 well he's

01:03:52.380 been made

01:03:52.860 a fool

01:03:53.240 of

01:03:53.420 by his

01:03:54.020 brother

01:03:54.280 Jacob

01:03:54.760 means

01:03:55.520 supplanter

01:03:56.920 by the way

01:03:57.500 that's what

01:03:58.180 the name

01:03:58.540 means

01:03:59.040 and Jacob

01:03:59.840 is always

01:04:00.220 trying to

01:04:00.800 usurp

01:04:01.300 Esau

01:04:01.740 as we've

01:04:02.440 seen

01:04:02.600 and so

01:04:03.280 Jacob

01:04:03.820 gets one

01:04:04.300 over on

01:04:04.780 him

01:04:04.880 and you

01:04:05.220 know

01:04:05.320 that's

01:04:05.580 not

01:04:05.740 doesn't

01:04:06.480 make an

01:04:06.720 older

01:04:06.880 brother

01:04:07.120 happy

01:04:07.480 when a

01:04:07.780 younger

01:04:07.960 brother

01:04:08.200 gets

01:04:08.440 something

01:04:08.740 over

01:04:08.980 on

01:04:09.200 him

01:04:09.280 that's

01:04:09.540 for

01:04:09.680 sure

01:04:09.880 and

01:04:10.280 then

01:04:10.420 he

01:04:10.560 loses

01:04:10.860 the

01:04:11.140 opportunity

01:04:11.640 to be

01:04:12.060 the

01:04:12.240 progenitor

01:04:12.780 of the

01:04:13.100 Messiah

01:04:13.520 which is

01:04:13.960 like

01:04:14.140 he probably

01:04:14.960 didn't realize

01:04:15.580 that precisely

01:04:16.300 but it

01:04:16.660 seems to

01:04:17.000 be

01:04:17.180 you know

01:04:17.520 it's

01:04:17.700 kind of

01:04:18.000 rough

01:04:18.280 that

01:04:18.560 so

01:04:18.840 and then

01:04:23.060 there's

01:04:23.280 a statement

01:04:23.940 in Matthew

01:04:24.460 16

01:04:25.040 26

01:04:25.660 for what

01:04:26.080 is a man

01:04:26.460 profited

01:04:27.000 if he

01:04:27.380 shall gain

01:04:27.760 the whole

01:04:28.060 world

01:04:28.340 and lose

01:04:28.720 his own

01:04:29.080 soul

01:04:29.460 or what

01:04:30.480 shall a man

01:04:30.980 give in

01:04:31.300 exchange

01:04:31.720 for his

01:04:32.080 soul

01:04:32.260 it's an

01:04:32.520 echo

01:04:32.740 of the

01:04:33.060 same

01:04:33.260 idea

01:04:33.680 you know

01:04:34.260 when you

01:04:34.480 think

01:04:34.700 well

01:04:34.900 what

01:04:35.140 does

01:04:35.260 this

01:04:35.460 idea

01:04:35.720 of

01:04:35.880 soul

01:04:36.240 mean

01:04:36.780 and

01:04:37.580 it's

01:04:37.900 not

01:04:38.080 intellect

01:04:38.660 and

01:04:39.080 it's

01:04:39.680 something

01:04:40.220 like

01:04:40.580 it's

01:04:43.100 character

01:04:43.540 I think

01:04:44.180 and I

01:04:44.960 think

01:04:45.120 the reason

01:04:45.460 that it's

01:04:45.760 valued

01:04:46.140 so much

01:04:46.700 is that

01:04:47.080 because

01:04:47.700 you've got

01:04:47.900 to ask

01:04:48.220 yourself

01:04:48.500 well

01:04:48.680 what do

01:04:48.880 you really

01:04:49.200 have

01:04:49.540 when it

01:04:49.800 comes

01:04:50.040 down

01:04:50.300 to it

01:04:50.580 so

01:04:50.740 life

01:04:51.020 is

01:04:51.200 suffering

01:04:51.580 let's

01:04:51.900 say

01:04:52.060 and

01:04:52.200 you know

01:04:52.720 you can

01:04:53.160 you can

01:04:53.980 pile up

01:04:54.680 worldly

01:04:55.200 goods

01:04:55.720 and

01:04:56.020 the

01:04:56.400 God

01:04:56.620 in the

01:04:56.840 Old

01:04:56.980 Testament

01:04:57.320 doesn't

01:04:57.640 seem

01:04:57.800 to have

01:04:58.000 anything

01:04:58.220 against

01:04:58.620 that

01:04:58.880 really

01:04:59.120 right

01:04:59.360 the

01:04:59.520 people

01:04:59.760 who

01:05:00.040 he

01:05:00.280 favors

01:05:00.740 seem

01:05:01.380 to

01:05:01.560 prosper

01:05:02.020 quite

01:05:02.340 nicely

01:05:02.720 in

01:05:02.900 the

01:05:03.000 world

01:05:03.300 but

01:05:03.880 they

01:05:04.320 also

01:05:04.580 have

01:05:04.820 to

01:05:04.940 make

01:05:05.100 a

01:05:05.240 choice

01:05:05.540 between

01:05:05.960 whether

01:05:06.480 they're

01:05:06.720 going

01:05:06.920 to

01:05:07.120 fundamentally

01:05:07.900 sustain

01:05:08.540 their

01:05:08.760 character

01:05:09.160 or

01:05:09.580 whether

01:05:09.900 they're

01:05:10.120 going

01:05:10.260 to

01:05:10.400 prosper

01:05:10.740 in

01:05:10.880 the

01:05:10.980 world

01:05:11.180 when

01:05:11.420 push

01:05:11.840 comes

01:05:12.100 to

01:05:12.300 shove

01:05:12.680 and

01:05:13.180 the

01:05:13.300 idea

01:05:13.560 constantly

01:05:14.080 is

01:05:14.340 that

01:05:14.500 really

01:05:14.740 what

01:05:14.940 you

01:05:15.080 have

01:05:15.360 in

01:05:15.520 the

01:05:15.620 world

01:05:15.920 that

01:05:16.780 allows

01:05:18.060 you

01:05:18.400 the

01:05:19.000 best

01:05:19.300 possible

01:05:19.760 defense

01:05:20.200 against

01:05:20.520 the

01:05:20.780 suffering

01:05:21.180 that's

01:05:21.480 intrinsic

01:05:21.840 to

01:05:22.080 being

01:05:22.340 is

01:05:22.500 your

01:05:22.640 character

01:05:23.060 that's

01:05:23.780 what

01:05:24.020 you

01:05:24.220 have

01:05:24.680 period

01:05:25.400 and

01:05:26.160 I

01:05:26.420 don't

01:05:26.620 think

01:05:26.820 there

01:05:26.980 is

01:05:27.140 anything

01:05:27.440 that's

01:05:27.700 more

01:05:27.840 psychologically

01:05:28.440 true

01:05:34.940 and

01:05:35.620 certainly

01:05:35.960 this

01:05:36.320 is

01:05:36.460 part

01:05:36.660 of

01:05:36.740 the

01:05:36.840 story

01:05:37.100 of

01:05:37.240 Noah's

01:05:37.580 ark

01:05:37.820 because

01:05:38.260 his

01:05:38.460 generations

01:05:39.280 were

01:05:39.520 perfect

01:05:39.840 so

01:05:40.020 he

01:05:40.080 had

01:05:40.160 a

01:05:40.260 very

01:05:40.440 tight

01:05:40.800 familial

01:05:41.560 arrangement

01:05:43.980 everyone

01:05:44.560 trusted

01:05:44.980 each

01:05:45.240 other

01:05:45.420 that's

01:05:45.860 a

01:05:45.980 big

01:05:46.160 deal

01:05:46.440 if

01:05:46.600 you

01:05:46.700 hit

01:05:46.840 a

01:05:46.940 rocky

01:05:47.200 patch

01:05:47.520 in

01:05:47.660 your

01:05:47.760 life

01:05:48.080 right

01:05:48.340 and

01:05:48.800 it's

01:05:48.980 character

01:05:49.400 that

01:05:49.720 determines

01:05:51.460 that

01:05:52.000 if

01:05:52.500 you're

01:05:52.640 generous

01:05:53.040 and

01:05:53.240 honest

01:05:53.580 and

01:05:53.740 all

01:05:53.860 of

01:05:53.980 those

01:05:54.140 things

01:05:54.400 people

01:05:54.960 know

01:05:55.180 they

01:05:55.320 can

01:05:55.480 rely

01:05:55.740 on

01:05:55.900 you

01:05:56.000 assuming

01:05:56.640 they're

01:05:56.860 not

01:05:57.060 resentful

01:05:57.700 that's

01:05:58.040 a

01:05:58.120 whole

01:05:58.260 different

01:05:58.540 story

01:05:58.940 then

01:05:59.560 they're

01:06:00.020 going

01:06:00.120 to

01:06:00.220 come

01:06:00.380 to

01:06:00.500 your

01:06:00.660 aid

01:06:00.900 when

01:06:01.100 it's

01:06:01.600 necessary

01:06:02.120 they're

01:06:02.640 going

01:06:02.740 to

01:06:02.820 pull

01:06:03.000 together

01:06:03.320 with

01:06:03.560 you

01:06:03.720 and

01:06:03.900 you

01:06:04.520 know

01:06:04.620 when

01:06:04.780 people

01:06:05.020 are

01:06:05.180 really

01:06:05.400 after

01:06:05.780 you

01:06:05.980 for

01:06:06.180 one

01:06:06.380 reason

01:06:06.640 or

01:06:06.760 another

01:06:07.000 and

01:06:07.660 they're

01:06:07.800 accusing

01:06:08.180 you

01:06:08.380 of

01:06:08.500 all

01:06:08.660 sorts

01:06:08.940 of

01:06:09.080 things

01:06:09.420 and

01:06:09.900 you're

01:06:10.340 guilty

01:06:10.720 because

01:06:11.080 you

01:06:11.260 have

01:06:11.960 a

01:06:12.100 past

01:06:12.440 that's

01:06:12.700 laden

01:06:13.060 with

01:06:13.280 characterological

01:06:14.100 errors

01:06:14.540 then

01:06:15.080 it's

01:06:15.320 very

01:06:15.580 easy

01:06:15.860 for

01:06:16.020 people

01:06:16.260 to

01:06:16.420 take

01:06:16.660 you

01:06:16.780 down

01:06:17.060 because

01:06:17.660 they'll

01:06:18.100 poke

01:06:18.400 until

01:06:18.660 they

01:06:18.840 hit

01:06:18.980 a

01:06:19.100 place

01:06:19.360 where

01:06:19.540 you're

01:06:19.720 guilty

01:06:20.080 and

01:06:20.820 then

01:06:21.060 you're

01:06:21.560 done

01:06:21.800 because

01:06:22.020 you'll

01:06:22.180 do

01:06:22.300 yourself

01:06:22.700 in

01:06:22.920 with

01:06:23.120 your

01:06:23.260 own

01:06:23.440 judgment

01:06:23.800 and

01:06:24.300 so

01:06:24.580 well

01:06:25.640 so

01:06:25.900 Esau

01:06:26.340 makes

01:06:26.860 a

01:06:27.000 very

01:06:27.140 big

01:06:27.380 mistake

01:06:27.860 and

01:06:28.180 there's

01:06:33.440 a

01:06:33.560 sacrificial

01:06:34.120 idea

01:06:34.520 here

01:06:34.780 too

01:06:35.020 which

01:06:35.260 is

01:06:35.400 you

01:06:35.520 know

01:06:35.600 now

01:06:35.820 and

01:06:35.940 then

01:06:36.060 you're

01:06:36.240 going

01:06:36.340 to

01:06:36.380 be

01:06:36.520 faced

01:06:36.800 with

01:06:37.000 a

01:06:37.200 situation

01:06:37.960 where

01:06:38.260 it's

01:06:38.960 something

01:06:39.280 you

01:06:39.440 really

01:06:39.640 want

01:06:39.900 or

01:06:40.060 your

01:06:40.240 character

01:06:40.660 maybe

01:06:40.960 you'll

01:06:41.120 have

01:06:41.280 to

01:06:41.400 lie

01:06:41.660 about

01:06:41.900 something

01:06:42.320 you

01:06:42.520 know

01:06:48.400 does

01:06:48.660 this

01:06:48.940 but

01:06:49.360 the

01:06:49.500 problem

01:06:49.840 there's

01:06:50.220 a

01:06:50.340 bunch

01:06:50.500 of

01:06:50.620 problems

01:06:50.920 with

01:06:51.080 that

01:06:51.260 one

01:06:51.520 is

01:06:51.700 that

01:06:51.920 well

01:06:52.620 now

01:06:52.820 you

01:06:52.980 know

01:06:53.100 that

01:06:53.260 you're

01:06:53.420 the

01:06:53.540 sort

01:06:53.720 of

01:06:53.820 person

01:06:54.100 that

01:06:54.260 will

01:06:54.520 in

01:06:54.700 fact

01:06:55.000 deceive

01:06:55.840 yourself

01:06:56.280 about

01:06:56.540 the

01:06:56.700 nature

01:06:56.940 of

01:06:57.100 reality

01:06:57.460 if

01:06:58.100 something

01:06:58.520 shiny

01:06:58.880 is

01:06:59.080 dangled

01:06:59.420 in

01:06:59.560 front

01:06:59.740 of

01:06:59.860 you

01:07:00.000 and

01:07:00.480 that's

01:07:00.780 not

01:07:00.980 good

01:07:01.240 because

01:07:01.500 it

01:07:01.660 undermines

01:07:02.060 your

01:07:02.200 faith

01:07:02.480 in

01:07:02.620 yourself

01:07:02.980 and

01:07:03.460 when

01:07:03.600 you're

01:07:03.800 really

01:07:04.100 in

01:07:04.340 trouble

01:07:04.680 they

01:07:05.220 call

01:07:05.400 that

01:07:05.560 the

01:07:05.720 dark

01:07:05.980 night

01:07:06.220 of

01:07:06.360 the

01:07:06.520 soul

01:07:06.800 when

01:07:18.400 then

01:07:18.880 you

01:07:19.200 weaken

01:07:19.540 yourself

01:07:19.960 under

01:07:20.200 the

01:07:20.360 worst

01:07:20.580 possible

01:07:21.060 circumstances

01:07:21.720 and

01:07:21.980 that's

01:07:22.540 just

01:07:22.760 that's

01:07:23.180 really

01:07:23.380 not

01:07:23.600 a

01:07:23.700 good

01:07:23.840 thing

01:07:24.180 so

01:07:25.140 this

01:07:26.340 is

01:07:26.460 very

01:07:26.660 practical

01:07:27.160 advice

01:07:27.760 it's

01:07:29.300 not

01:07:29.620 casual

01:07:30.380 moralizing

01:07:31.060 there's

01:07:31.280 very

01:07:31.580 little

01:07:31.800 casual

01:07:32.200 moralizing

01:07:32.760 in

01:07:32.900 these

01:07:33.060 stories

01:07:33.360 in

01:07:35.600 the

01:07:35.700 next

01:07:35.880 part

01:07:36.080 of

01:07:36.140 the

01:07:36.220 story

01:07:36.420 there's

01:07:36.640 some

01:07:36.780 parallels

01:07:37.160 with

01:07:37.380 Abraham

01:07:37.680 and

01:07:38.020 that's

01:07:38.620 built

01:07:38.860 into

01:07:39.060 the

01:07:39.200 narrative

01:07:39.480 I

01:07:39.680 think

01:07:39.840 because

01:07:40.160 Isaac

01:07:41.000 is

01:07:41.340 Abraham's

01:07:43.320 descendant

01:07:43.840 and

01:07:44.000 so

01:07:44.240 we

01:07:45.100 have

01:07:45.280 to

01:07:45.400 keep

01:07:45.620 the

01:07:45.940 narrative

01:07:46.700 echoing

01:07:47.640 forward

01:07:48.100 otherwise

01:07:48.780 it

01:07:49.000 loses

01:07:49.260 its

01:07:49.520 continuity

01:07:50.280 and

01:07:50.660 there's

01:07:52.700 a

01:07:52.800 famine

01:07:53.060 in

01:07:53.240 the

01:07:53.340 land

01:07:53.540 that

01:07:53.680 Isaac

01:07:53.920 is

01:07:54.060 in

01:07:54.220 and

01:07:55.480 God

01:07:56.400 tells

01:07:56.720 him

01:07:56.840 to

01:07:57.000 stay

01:07:57.320 the

01:07:57.640 course

01:07:57.940 anyways

01:07:58.340 repeating

01:07:59.240 the

01:07:59.440 promise

01:07:59.720 he

01:07:59.940 gave

01:08:00.500 to

01:08:00.640 Abraham

01:08:01.060 although

01:08:01.760 Isaac

01:08:02.100 goes

01:08:02.440 to

01:08:02.580 Abimelech

01:08:04.060 also

01:08:04.700 telling

01:08:05.000 the

01:08:05.160 king

01:08:05.340 and

01:08:05.460 people

01:08:05.660 that

01:08:05.840 Rebecca

01:08:06.140 was

01:08:06.380 his

01:08:06.540 sister

01:08:06.820 which

01:08:07.220 is

01:08:07.300 exactly

01:08:07.620 what

01:08:07.800 Abraham

01:08:08.080 did

01:08:08.360 when

01:08:08.500 he

01:08:08.580 went

01:08:08.720 to

01:08:08.820 Egypt

01:08:09.180 and

01:08:09.760 so

01:08:09.860 there's

01:08:10.060 another

01:08:10.320 echo

01:08:10.700 there

01:08:11.020 of

01:08:11.220 the

01:08:11.380 same

01:08:11.720 it's

01:08:14.600 as

01:08:14.720 if

01:08:17.640 that's

01:08:17.980 supposed

01:08:18.140 to

01:08:18.300 remind

01:08:18.700 you

01:08:18.920 of

01:08:19.080 the

01:08:19.260 previous

01:08:19.960 story

01:08:20.460 but

01:08:20.980 they're

01:08:21.760 careless

01:08:22.160 the

01:08:22.760 king

01:08:23.000 sees

01:08:23.420 that

01:08:23.720 Rebecca

01:08:24.340 and

01:08:24.720 Isaac

01:08:25.280 are

01:08:25.760 intimate

01:08:26.060 together

01:08:26.660 and

01:08:27.000 luckily

01:08:28.940 he doesn't

01:08:29.400 have them

01:08:29.680 put to

01:08:29.960 death

01:08:30.140 he just

01:08:30.500 tells

01:08:30.840 everybody

01:08:31.260 in the

01:08:31.560 kingdom

01:08:31.760 that

01:08:32.000 they're

01:08:32.160 to be

01:08:32.340 left

01:08:32.580 hell

01:08:32.920 alone

01:08:33.260 and

01:08:33.960 then

01:08:34.320 Isaac

01:08:34.740 prospers

01:08:35.420 in

01:08:35.720 that

01:08:36.240 land

01:08:36.540 just

01:08:36.980 like

01:08:37.260 Abraham

01:08:38.340 did

01:08:38.620 in

01:08:38.760 Egypt

01:08:39.000 until

01:08:39.380 the

01:08:39.660 Philistines

01:08:40.260 ask

01:08:40.560 him

01:08:40.680 to

01:08:40.820 leave

01:08:41.020 he's

01:08:41.240 just

01:08:41.380 getting

01:08:41.620 too

01:08:41.840 rich

01:08:42.160 and

01:08:42.320 powerful

01:08:42.660 things

01:08:42.960 are

01:08:43.080 going

01:08:47.640 in

01:08:48.120 the

01:08:48.240 meantime

01:08:48.620 Esau

01:08:49.100 gets

01:08:49.520 married

01:08:49.880 and

01:08:50.180 this

01:08:50.740 is

01:08:50.900 a

01:08:51.060 funny

01:08:51.260 little

01:08:51.520 story

01:08:51.900 he

01:08:52.620 says

01:08:52.820 he

01:08:53.420 marries

01:08:53.700 two

01:08:53.900 women

01:08:54.160 who

01:08:54.320 give

01:08:54.540 grief

01:08:54.880 to

01:08:55.060 Isaac

01:08:55.340 and

01:08:55.520 Rebecca

01:08:55.880 so

01:08:56.320 whoever

01:08:57.720 Esau

01:08:58.240 marries

01:08:58.660 they're

01:08:58.960 not

01:08:59.160 popular

01:08:59.620 with

01:08:59.860 their

01:09:00.620 in-laws

01:09:01.560 not

01:09:01.880 in the

01:09:02.200 least

01:09:02.480 that

01:09:03.000 actually

01:09:03.320 becomes

01:09:03.700 relevant

01:09:04.080 a little

01:09:04.400 later

01:09:04.720 because

01:09:05.020 they

01:09:05.220 drive

01:09:05.500 Rebecca

01:09:05.880 quite

01:09:06.440 mad

01:09:06.860 so

01:09:07.260 I

01:09:07.380 get

01:09:07.480 a

01:09:07.580 kick

01:09:07.740 out

01:09:07.900 of

01:09:08.000 that

01:09:08.180 because

01:09:08.500 that's

01:09:09.040 very

01:09:09.240 common

01:09:09.620 you

01:09:09.840 know

01:09:09.940 it's

01:09:10.140 not

01:09:10.420 easy

01:09:10.760 to

01:09:11.400 integrate

01:09:12.280 new

01:09:12.680 people

01:09:12.980 into

01:09:13.220 your

01:09:13.420 family

01:09:13.880 and

01:09:14.760 hope

01:09:15.240 that

01:09:15.420 that

01:09:15.580 will

01:09:15.720 go

01:09:15.880 smoothly

01:09:16.260 it's

01:09:16.460 actually

01:09:16.760 one

01:09:16.940 of

01:09:17.040 the

01:09:17.140 real

01:09:17.300 catastrophes

01:09:18.060 in

01:09:18.200 life

01:09:18.500 right

01:09:18.720 you

01:09:18.840 have

01:09:19.020 a

01:09:19.260 kid

01:09:19.460 maybe

01:09:20.100 you

01:09:20.400 get

01:09:20.520 along

01:09:20.760 with

01:09:20.980 them

01:09:21.180 and

01:09:21.620 maybe

01:09:21.800 you

01:09:21.960 don't

01:09:22.520 but

01:09:23.260 let's

01:09:23.540 assume

01:09:23.860 you

01:09:24.040 do

01:09:24.200 but

01:09:24.380 then

01:09:24.540 they

01:09:24.680 marry

01:09:24.920 someone

01:09:25.240 that

01:09:25.440 you

01:09:25.700 just

01:09:25.920 don't

01:09:26.380 like

01:09:26.800 and

01:09:27.780 or

01:09:28.000 maybe

01:09:28.260 you

01:09:28.440 think

01:09:28.640 is

01:09:28.780 wrong

01:09:29.120 for

01:09:29.400 them

01:09:29.580 I

01:09:29.700 mean

01:09:29.800 that's

01:09:30.100 really

01:09:30.360 rough

01:09:30.740 that's

01:09:31.140 what

01:09:31.480 are

01:09:31.580 you

01:09:31.640 going

01:09:31.760 to

01:09:31.800 do

01:09:31.960 about

01:09:32.200 that

01:09:32.520 you

01:09:33.100 know

01:09:33.220 because

01:09:33.600 you're

01:09:34.400 you're

01:09:34.720 basically

01:09:35.080 screwed

01:09:35.560 both

01:09:35.880 ways

01:09:36.260 if

01:09:36.480 you

01:09:36.600 have

01:09:36.900 the

01:09:37.060 person

01:09:37.320 you

01:09:37.460 love

01:09:37.660 around

01:09:37.920 then

01:09:38.080 you

01:09:38.160 have

01:09:38.300 to

01:09:38.400 put

01:09:38.540 up

01:09:38.700 with

01:09:38.840 this

01:09:39.040 horrendous

01:09:39.580 creature

01:09:39.920 that

01:09:40.140 they

01:09:40.320 allied

01:09:40.620 themselves

01:09:41.040 with

01:09:41.360 and

01:09:41.520 if

01:09:42.140 you

01:09:42.320 get

01:09:43.000 rid

01:09:43.200 of

01:09:43.300 them

01:09:43.440 completely

01:09:43.920 well

01:09:44.200 then

01:09:44.440 you

01:09:44.640 don't

01:09:45.060 have

01:09:45.220 your

01:09:45.360 child

01:09:45.680 anymore

01:09:46.040 so

01:09:46.340 it's

01:09:46.880 very

01:09:47.160 very

01:09:47.400 difficult

01:09:47.820 position

01:09:48.380 and

01:09:48.580 so

01:09:48.800 that's

01:09:49.380 another

01:09:49.620 example

01:09:50.120 of

01:09:50.320 the

01:09:50.520 realism

01:09:51.120 I

01:09:51.380 think

01:09:51.580 of

01:09:51.700 the

01:09:51.840 stories

01:09:52.200 now

01:09:53.080 Isaac

01:10:01.800 hears

01:10:02.020 this

01:10:02.360 so

01:10:03.500 she

01:10:03.720 conspires

01:10:04.240 with

01:10:04.460 Jacob

01:10:04.880 to

01:10:06.740 to

01:10:08.020 slaughter

01:10:08.340 two

01:10:08.640 small

01:10:09.040 goats

01:10:09.420 and

01:10:10.200 make

01:10:10.780 his

01:10:11.500 father

01:10:11.840 some

01:10:12.160 stew

01:10:12.560 because

01:10:13.000 he

01:10:13.440 wants

01:10:13.740 Esau

01:10:14.120 to

01:10:14.300 make

01:10:14.460 him

01:10:14.600 stew

01:10:14.840 out

01:10:15.000 of

01:10:15.100 venison

01:10:15.440 but

01:10:15.740 Rebecca

01:10:16.640 who's

01:10:17.000 being

01:10:17.480 I

01:10:17.840 would

01:10:18.000 say

01:10:18.300 let's

01:10:19.280 say

01:10:19.440 slightly

01:10:19.840 deceitful

01:10:20.500 or

01:10:20.720 horribly

01:10:21.300 lying

01:10:21.960 that

01:10:22.220 would

01:10:22.360 be

01:10:22.480 more

01:10:22.660 accurate

01:10:23.040 she

01:10:24.440 conspires

01:10:24.940 with

01:10:25.160 Jacob

01:10:25.460 so

01:10:25.680 Jacob

01:10:25.980 kills

01:10:26.500 two

01:10:26.720 little

01:10:26.940 goats

01:10:27.240 kids

01:10:27.600 and

01:10:27.880 boils

01:10:28.760 up

01:10:28.940 a

01:10:29.080 stew

01:10:29.340 and

01:10:29.540 then

01:10:29.680 he

01:10:29.820 puts

01:10:30.080 on

01:10:30.300 some

01:10:30.620 goatskins

01:10:32.820 because

01:10:33.120 Esau

01:10:33.440 is a

01:10:33.680 hairy

01:10:33.920 character

01:10:34.420 and

01:10:34.700 Rebecca

01:10:35.980 dresses

01:10:36.460 Isaac

01:10:37.140 in

01:10:37.540 Esau's

01:10:39.260 clothing

01:10:39.620 because

01:10:39.880 Isaac

01:10:40.180 can't

01:10:40.480 see

01:10:40.640 very

01:10:40.880 well

01:10:41.080 at

01:10:41.220 this

01:10:41.400 point

01:10:41.680 and

01:10:41.860 so

01:10:42.080 then

01:10:42.720 Jacob

01:10:43.480 goes

01:10:43.780 into

01:10:44.120 his

01:10:44.360 father

01:10:44.640 with

01:10:44.880 the

01:10:45.040 stew

01:10:45.340 and

01:10:45.600 he's

01:10:47.120 trying

01:10:47.320 to

01:10:47.440 disguise

01:10:47.780 his

01:10:47.980 voice

01:10:48.200 but

01:10:48.360 it

01:10:48.460 doesn't

01:10:48.660 work

01:10:48.900 very

01:10:49.160 well

01:10:49.460 and

01:10:50.520 so

01:10:50.840 Isaac

01:10:51.700 asks

01:10:52.080 him

01:10:52.240 to

01:10:52.380 come

01:10:52.540 close

01:10:52.960 and

01:10:53.160 Jacob

01:10:53.760 puts

01:10:54.040 out

01:10:54.200 his

01:10:54.320 arm

01:10:54.540 with

01:10:54.720 the

01:10:54.860 goats

01:10:55.060 skin

01:10:55.300 on

01:10:55.520 it

01:10:55.660 and

01:10:55.840 Isaac

01:10:56.720 smells

01:10:57.180 him

01:10:57.380 too

01:10:57.600 and

01:10:57.760 he

01:10:57.900 smells

01:10:58.380 like

01:10:58.820 Esau

01:10:59.620 which

01:11:00.660 maybe

01:11:00.980 wasn't

01:11:01.380 the

01:11:01.520 best

01:11:01.760 thing

01:11:02.100 and

01:11:03.140 feels

01:11:04.420 like

01:11:04.740 him

01:11:04.900 and

01:11:05.100 so

01:11:05.620 because

01:11:06.780 Isaac

01:11:07.180 thinks

01:11:07.520 he's

01:11:07.720 on

01:11:07.840 his

01:11:07.980 deathbed

01:11:08.480 he

01:11:10.020 decides

01:11:10.500 to

01:11:10.720 deliver

01:11:11.020 a

01:11:11.220 blessing

01:11:11.580 to

01:11:12.060 Esau

01:11:13.860 and

01:11:14.760 so

01:11:15.140 but

01:11:16.640 it's

01:11:16.800 Jacob

01:11:17.100 and

01:11:17.840 so

01:11:17.940 that's

01:11:18.280 a

01:11:18.360 big

01:11:18.520 deal

01:11:18.780 too

01:11:18.980 because

01:11:19.260 the

01:11:19.420 blessing

01:11:19.760 is

01:11:19.960 actually

01:11:20.320 as

01:11:20.880 I

01:11:20.980 said

01:11:21.160 before

01:11:21.480 with

01:11:21.680 these

01:11:21.860 ancient

01:11:22.140 people

01:11:22.540 it

01:11:22.740 appeared

01:11:23.060 as

01:11:23.280 once

01:11:24.240 you

01:11:24.400 said

01:11:24.760 something

01:11:25.200 you

01:11:25.640 didn't

01:11:25.780 get

01:11:25.920 to

01:11:26.040 take

01:11:26.220 it

01:11:26.340 back

01:11:26.760 you

01:11:27.000 couldn't

01:11:27.180 say

01:11:27.340 well

01:11:27.620 look

01:11:28.060 you

01:11:28.240 deceived

01:11:29.160 me

01:11:29.580 so

01:11:30.320 it

01:11:30.420 doesn't

01:11:30.620 count

01:11:31.060 it

01:11:31.900 was

01:11:32.040 like

01:11:32.360 they

01:11:33.640 weren't

01:11:33.920 maybe

01:11:34.180 as

01:11:34.500 well

01:11:38.800 weak

01:11:39.140 might be

01:11:39.500 one way

01:11:39.840 of thinking

01:11:40.160 about it

01:11:40.480 but

01:11:40.580 another

01:11:40.820 way

01:11:41.040 is

01:11:41.160 they

01:11:41.300 weren't

01:11:41.580 quite

01:11:41.760 as

01:11:41.880 attentive

01:11:42.220 to

01:11:42.460 context

01:11:43.080 you

01:11:43.320 know

01:11:43.420 because

01:11:43.680 if

01:11:44.120 I

01:11:44.260 make

01:11:44.500 you

01:11:44.640 a

01:11:44.760 deal

01:11:44.980 and

01:11:45.260 then

01:11:45.360 it

01:11:45.480 turns

01:11:45.680 out

01:11:45.840 that

01:11:45.960 you

01:11:46.080 betrayed

01:11:46.480 me

01:11:46.660 I

01:11:46.800 may

01:11:46.980 feel

01:11:47.220 that

01:11:47.440 the

01:11:47.980 deal

01:11:48.180 is

01:11:48.340 no

01:11:48.480 longer

01:11:48.740 valid

01:11:49.040 because

01:11:49.420 the

01:11:50.500 assumption

01:11:50.820 was

01:11:51.120 you

01:11:51.240 were

01:11:51.360 being

01:11:51.560 honest

01:11:51.860 to

01:11:52.020 begin

01:11:52.220 with

01:11:52.380 and

01:11:52.480 that

01:11:52.660 violates

01:11:53.980 the

01:11:54.140 whole

01:11:54.320 spirit

01:11:54.700 but

01:11:54.880 that

01:11:55.020 isn't

01:11:55.200 how

01:11:55.320 these

01:11:55.540 people

01:11:55.800 thought

01:11:56.120 they

01:11:56.300 said

01:11:56.520 once

01:11:56.840 you

01:11:56.980 promised

01:11:57.380 man

01:11:57.620 you

01:11:57.760 promised

01:11:58.160 and

01:11:58.300 that

01:11:58.460 was

01:11:58.580 that

01:11:58.920 so

01:11:59.940 Isaac

01:12:01.520 blesses

01:12:02.000 Jacob

01:12:02.320 he

01:12:02.540 says

01:12:02.840 let

01:12:03.980 God

01:12:04.260 give

01:12:04.540 you

01:12:04.680 the

01:12:04.860 dew

01:12:05.020 of

01:12:05.160 heaven

01:12:05.420 and

01:12:05.580 the

01:12:05.700 fatness

01:12:06.080 of

01:12:06.200 the

01:12:06.320 earth

01:12:06.520 and

01:12:06.660 plenty

01:12:06.920 of

01:12:07.100 corn

01:12:07.320 and

01:12:07.460 wine

01:12:07.680 let

01:12:07.880 let

01:12:07.900 people

01:12:08.340 serve

01:12:08.740 you

01:12:08.940 and

01:12:09.060 nations

01:12:09.420 bow

01:12:09.660 down

01:12:09.880 to

01:12:10.040 you

01:12:10.220 be

01:12:10.760 Lord

01:12:11.060 over

01:12:11.260 thy

01:12:11.460 brethren

01:12:11.900 that's

01:12:12.640 going

01:12:12.760 to

01:12:12.800 be

01:12:12.920 rough

01:12:13.140 on

01:12:13.300 Esau

01:12:13.680 let

01:12:14.180 thy

01:12:14.360 mother's

01:12:14.740 sons

01:12:14.980 bow

01:12:15.220 down

01:12:15.460 to

01:12:15.620 thee

01:12:15.760 cursed

01:12:16.180 be

01:12:16.460 everyone

01:12:16.800 that

01:12:17.020 cursed

01:12:17.300 be

01:12:18.340 he

01:12:18.620 that

01:12:19.080 blesses

01:12:19.560 thee

01:12:19.760 and

01:12:21.060 so

01:12:21.200 there's

01:12:21.460 quite a

01:12:22.300 remarkable

01:12:22.680 painting

01:12:23.100 of

01:12:23.300 that

01:12:23.560 so

01:12:24.420 there's

01:12:24.740 Rebecca

01:12:25.100 she's

01:12:25.440 looking

01:12:25.620 pretty

01:12:25.860 old

01:12:26.180 and

01:12:26.440 Isaac

01:12:28.120 is

01:12:28.260 looking

01:12:28.440 pretty

01:12:28.680 blind

01:12:29.060 and

01:12:29.380 Jacob

01:12:30.240 is

01:12:30.480 taking

01:12:30.940 directions

01:12:31.460 from

01:12:31.780 his

01:12:31.940 mother

01:12:32.240 and

01:12:32.520 we

01:12:32.920 might

01:12:33.100 say

01:12:33.320 he's

01:12:33.600 perhaps

01:12:34.040 a

01:12:34.200 little

01:12:34.300 old

01:12:34.580 to

01:12:34.720 be

01:12:34.840 taking

01:12:35.120 moral

01:12:35.380 lessons

01:12:35.680 from

01:12:35.900 his

01:12:36.040 mother

01:12:41.900 Jacob

01:12:42.480 already

01:12:43.720 tricked

01:12:44.160 Esau

01:12:44.660 out of

01:12:45.060 his

01:12:45.320 birthright

01:12:45.940 and

01:12:46.140 so

01:12:46.300 now

01:12:46.520 he's

01:12:46.760 like

01:12:46.940 taking

01:12:47.180 the

01:12:47.340 birthright

01:12:47.800 and

01:12:48.260 he's

01:12:48.560 taking

01:12:48.820 the

01:12:49.020 blessing

01:12:49.400 and

01:12:50.020 so

01:12:50.340 as

01:12:51.640 I

01:12:51.780 said

01:12:52.060 that

01:12:52.300 Jacob

01:12:53.880 he

01:12:54.140 turns out

01:12:54.660 to be

01:12:54.860 the

01:12:55.020 father

01:12:55.260 of

01:12:55.460 Israel

01:12:55.840 it's

01:12:56.240 like

01:12:56.420 he's

01:12:57.060 a

01:12:57.180 reprehensible

01:12:57.700 character

01:12:58.160 these

01:12:58.420 are

01:12:58.560 major

01:12:58.940 league

01:12:59.320 betrayals

01:13:00.420 that

01:13:00.560 he's

01:13:00.780 engaging

01:13:01.140 in

01:13:01.340 it's

01:13:01.480 not

01:13:01.740 trivial

01:13:02.120 he

01:13:02.360 really

01:13:02.700 really

01:13:03.800 pulls

01:13:04.860 the rug

01:13:05.180 out

01:13:05.360 from

01:13:05.540 under

01:13:05.720 his

01:13:05.880 brother

01:13:06.120 and

01:13:06.300 you

01:13:06.380 know

01:13:06.500 you

01:13:06.660 could

01:13:06.800 say

01:13:06.980 well

01:13:07.160 Esau

01:13:07.560 is

01:13:08.340 not

01:13:08.560 as

01:13:08.720 awake

01:13:09.060 as

01:13:09.240 he

01:13:09.340 might

01:13:09.580 be

01:13:09.820 you

01:13:09.980 know

01:13:10.080 he's

01:13:10.260 kind

01:13:10.420 of

01:13:10.500 a

01:13:10.620 wild

01:13:10.900 man

01:13:11.280 and

01:13:11.760 fair

01:13:12.020 enough

01:13:12.380 but

01:13:12.720 it

01:13:13.340 certainly

01:13:13.740 seems

01:13:14.040 to

01:13:14.180 me

01:13:14.340 that

01:13:14.520 the

01:13:15.280 predominant

01:13:16.400 moral error

01:13:17.140 falls on

01:13:17.740 Jacob's

01:13:18.200 shoulders

01:13:18.520 it's

01:13:19.220 very

01:13:19.500 treacherous

01:13:20.100 behavior

01:13:20.520 what he's

01:13:20.920 doing

01:13:21.180 so

01:13:22.620 then

01:13:22.800 Esau

01:13:23.120 shows

01:13:23.440 up

01:13:23.640 and

01:13:23.740 he's

01:13:23.860 got

01:13:24.020 a

01:13:24.140 nice

01:13:24.340 stag

01:13:24.720 for

01:13:24.920 his

01:13:25.080 dad

01:13:25.400 and

01:13:25.620 it's

01:13:25.820 like

01:13:26.100 a

01:13:28.140 little

01:13:28.260 late

01:13:28.540 for

01:13:28.720 that

01:13:29.060 and

01:13:30.100 he

01:13:30.200 states

01:13:30.520 that

01:13:30.680 his

01:13:30.820 brother

01:13:31.180 was

01:13:36.980 Esau

01:13:41.380 is

01:13:41.520 asking

01:13:41.800 fundamentally

01:13:42.320 if there's

01:13:42.620 anything

01:13:42.920 at all

01:13:43.300 left over

01:13:43.880 for him

01:13:44.260 Isaac

01:13:45.640 can't

01:13:46.000 give him

01:13:46.280 the same

01:13:46.620 blessing

01:13:46.960 because

01:13:47.260 that's

01:13:47.540 already

01:13:47.740 been

01:13:47.920 given

01:13:48.220 so

01:13:48.440 he

01:13:48.580 has

01:13:48.720 to

01:13:48.840 think

01:13:49.000 of

01:13:49.120 something

01:13:49.400 else

01:13:49.740 Isaac

01:13:51.300 says

01:13:51.720 behold

01:13:52.540 I've

01:13:53.040 made

01:13:53.240 him

01:13:53.380 thy

01:13:53.620 lord

01:13:54.000 and

01:13:54.560 all

01:13:54.840 his

01:13:55.060 brothers

01:13:55.440 I've

01:13:55.720 given

01:13:55.920 to

01:13:56.080 him

01:13:56.240 for

01:13:56.440 servants

01:13:56.820 which

01:13:57.440 includes

01:13:57.820 you

01:13:58.080 and

01:13:58.560 with

01:13:58.720 corn

01:13:58.980 and

01:13:59.160 wine

01:13:59.380 have

01:13:59.520 I

01:13:59.660 sustained

01:14:00.100 him

01:14:00.320 and

01:14:00.460 what

01:14:00.920 shall

01:14:01.140 I

01:14:01.260 now

01:14:01.440 do

01:14:01.640 unto

01:14:01.840 thee

01:14:02.060 my

01:14:02.240 son

01:14:02.520 and

01:14:02.660 Esau

01:14:03.020 said

01:14:03.300 unto

01:14:03.480 his

01:14:03.700 father

01:14:03.960 have

01:14:04.480 you

01:14:05.000 even

01:14:05.260 one

01:14:05.540 blessing

01:14:05.960 for

01:14:06.200 me

01:14:06.360 my

01:14:06.560 father

01:14:06.920 and

01:14:07.140 bless

01:14:07.940 me

01:14:08.120 also

01:14:08.520 and

01:14:08.860 Esau

01:14:09.560 lifted

01:14:09.860 up

01:14:10.060 his

01:14:10.200 voice

01:14:10.460 and

01:14:10.640 wept

01:14:10.960 and

01:14:11.160 you

01:14:11.540 know

01:14:11.620 we

01:14:11.760 already

01:14:11.960 know

01:14:12.140 that

01:14:12.280 Esau

01:14:12.560 is a

01:14:12.780 pretty

01:14:12.920 tough

01:14:13.220 guy

01:14:13.560 by

01:14:13.800 all

01:14:14.040 appearances

01:14:14.540 and

01:14:15.420 you

01:14:15.700 know

01:14:15.800 he's

01:14:16.000 out

01:14:16.140 there

01:14:16.300 hunting

01:14:16.580 on

01:14:16.780 his

01:14:16.900 own

01:14:17.080 and

01:14:17.240 camping

01:14:17.600 and

01:14:17.880 it's

01:14:18.060 like

01:14:18.260 he's

01:14:18.460 no

01:14:18.600 pushover

01:14:19.100 and

01:14:19.280 the

01:14:19.380 fact

01:14:19.600 that

01:14:19.760 this

01:14:19.920 reduces

01:14:20.300 him

01:14:20.500 to

01:14:20.660 tears

01:14:20.960 is

01:14:21.180 an

01:14:21.620 indication

01:14:22.220 of

01:14:33.020 your

01:14:33.160 brother

01:14:33.460 and

01:14:34.020 it

01:14:34.140 shall

01:14:34.280 come

01:14:34.480 to

01:14:34.620 pass

01:14:34.900 when

01:14:35.080 you

01:14:35.300 will

01:14:35.500 have

01:14:35.700 the

01:14:35.860 dominion

01:14:36.320 and

01:14:36.760 you'll

01:14:36.940 break

01:14:37.160 his

01:14:37.780 yoke

01:14:38.060 off

01:14:38.300 from

01:14:38.440 thy

01:14:38.660 neck

01:14:38.980 and

01:14:39.380 Esau

01:14:39.740 hated

01:14:40.100 Jacob

01:14:40.480 because

01:14:40.800 of

01:14:40.960 the

01:14:41.080 blessing

01:14:41.440 wherewith

01:14:42.120 his

01:14:42.280 father

01:14:42.580 blessed

01:14:42.940 him

01:14:43.180 and

01:14:43.840 Esau

01:14:44.140 said

01:14:44.400 in

01:14:44.520 his

01:14:44.660 heart

01:14:44.920 the

01:14:45.460 days

01:14:45.720 of

01:14:45.860 mourning

01:14:46.140 for

01:14:46.320 my

01:14:46.500 father

01:14:46.800 are

01:14:47.020 at

01:14:47.180 hand

01:14:47.480 then

01:14:48.000 I

01:14:48.180 will

01:14:48.340 slay

01:14:48.620 my

01:14:48.820 brother

01:14:49.060 Jacob

01:14:49.540 so

01:14:50.540 fundamentally

01:14:51.440 you know

01:14:52.040 if

01:14:52.760 Isaac

01:14:53.140 dies

01:14:53.460 or when

01:14:53.780 he

01:14:53.940 dies

01:14:54.300 then

01:14:54.760 we'll

01:14:55.520 mourn

01:14:55.760 for

01:14:55.940 him

01:14:56.060 and

01:14:56.180 Jacob

01:14:57.220 better

01:14:57.460 look

01:14:57.660 the

01:14:57.780 hell

01:14:57.940 out

01:14:58.140 because

01:14:58.560 it's

01:14:58.920 serious

01:15:00.440 death

01:15:01.620 coming

01:15:02.340 his

01:15:02.580 way

01:15:02.880 and

01:15:03.800 you know

01:15:04.220 he's got

01:15:04.660 a point

01:15:05.640 he's

01:15:06.660 in

01:15:07.380 Dante's

01:15:08.100 Inferno

01:15:08.600 I think

01:15:09.220 I mentioned

01:15:09.580 this at

01:15:09.880 one point

01:15:10.300 Dante's

01:15:11.240 Inferno

01:15:11.700 is a

01:15:12.100 very

01:15:12.280 interesting

01:15:12.720 story

01:15:13.120 it's

01:15:13.360 a descent

01:15:13.780 into

01:15:14.060 hell

01:15:14.400 and

01:15:15.560 it's

01:15:16.180 actually

01:15:16.480 one of

01:15:16.820 the

01:15:16.920 places

01:15:17.220 that

01:15:17.480 we

01:15:17.640 sort

01:15:17.840 of

01:15:17.960 derive

01:15:18.360 the

01:15:18.680 popular

01:15:19.120 conception

01:15:19.640 of

01:15:19.880 hell

01:15:20.100 was

01:15:20.560 partly

01:15:20.880 based

01:15:21.200 on

01:15:21.400 Dante's

01:15:21.880 imagination

01:15:23.160 on

01:15:23.640 his

01:15:23.880 work

01:15:24.220 and

01:15:24.840 what

01:15:25.060 Dante

01:15:25.340 was

01:15:25.540 trying

01:15:25.760 to

01:15:25.900 do

01:15:26.040 was

01:15:26.220 to

01:15:26.380 discover

01:15:26.900 the

01:15:27.080 hierarchical

01:15:27.820 structure

01:15:28.240 of

01:15:28.440 evil

01:15:28.740 and

01:15:29.460 you

01:15:29.660 know

01:15:29.740 you

01:15:29.860 might

01:15:30.000 think

01:15:30.180 there's

01:15:30.360 a

01:15:30.460 hierarchical

01:15:31.000 structure

01:15:31.340 of

01:15:31.520 good

01:15:31.760 some

01:15:32.060 things

01:15:32.320 are

01:15:32.460 better

01:15:32.680 than

01:15:32.880 other

01:15:33.080 things

01:15:33.400 but

01:15:33.820 there's

01:15:34.020 also

01:15:34.260 a

01:15:34.420 hierarchical

01:15:34.960 structure

01:15:35.300 of

01:15:35.440 evil

01:15:35.700 some

01:15:36.060 evils

01:15:36.440 are

01:15:36.600 greater

01:15:36.900 than

01:15:37.120 other

01:15:37.340 evils

01:15:37.700 and

01:15:37.880 he

01:15:38.240 put

01:15:38.440 betrayal

01:15:38.880 in

01:15:39.300 the

01:15:39.880 lowest

01:15:40.680 part

01:15:41.080 of

01:15:41.200 hell

01:15:41.420 right

01:15:42.240 so

01:15:42.420 if

01:15:42.600 you

01:15:42.740 were

01:15:42.880 betraying

01:15:43.380 people

01:15:43.640 you

01:15:43.800 were

01:15:43.920 right

01:15:44.100 beside

01:15:44.440 Satan

01:15:44.860 himself

01:15:45.360 and

01:15:46.140 so

01:15:46.420 and

01:15:46.760 I

01:15:46.880 think

01:15:47.100 that's

01:15:47.440 good

01:15:47.780 that's

01:15:48.140 very

01:15:48.380 smart

01:15:48.800 well

01:15:49.040 Dante

01:15:49.360 was

01:15:49.580 a

01:15:49.720 genius

01:15:50.040 after

01:15:50.420 all

01:15:50.660 and

01:15:52.420 I

01:15:52.620 think

01:15:52.780 the

01:15:52.920 reason

01:15:53.160 for

01:15:53.320 that

01:15:53.520 is

01:15:53.680 that

01:15:53.900 you

01:15:54.820 see

01:15:55.000 if

01:15:55.200 someone

01:15:55.460 trusts

01:15:55.900 you

01:15:56.160 they're

01:15:57.140 laying

01:15:57.520 their

01:15:57.740 vulnerability

01:15:58.140 open

01:15:58.640 to

01:15:58.840 you

01:15:59.020 now

01:15:59.300 they

01:15:59.460 might

01:15:59.640 just

01:15:59.820 be

01:16:00.020 naive

01:16:00.420 let's

01:16:00.740 say

01:16:00.920 and

01:16:01.120 that's

01:16:01.740 we

01:16:01.940 won't

01:16:02.180 think

01:16:02.680 about

01:16:02.900 that

01:16:03.240 because

01:16:03.580 you're

01:16:04.040 just

01:16:04.200 a

01:16:04.360 child

01:16:04.620 if

01:16:04.800 you're

01:16:04.920 naive

01:16:05.240 you

01:16:05.860 can

01:16:06.000 still

01:16:06.200 be

01:16:06.400 betrayed

01:16:06.780 but

01:16:07.000 if

01:16:07.400 you're

01:16:07.500 an

01:16:07.600 adult

01:16:16.140 naive

01:16:16.420 anymore

01:16:16.740 so

01:16:17.000 you

01:16:17.460 decide

01:16:17.820 to

01:16:17.980 trust

01:16:18.340 and

01:16:18.540 you

01:16:18.680 say

01:16:18.820 I'll

01:16:19.060 open

01:16:19.360 myself

01:16:19.740 up

01:16:20.080 and

01:16:20.900 I

01:16:21.420 know

01:16:21.700 that

01:16:21.940 I'm

01:16:22.320 laying

01:16:22.620 myself

01:16:23.140 open

01:16:23.520 to

01:16:23.720 you

01:16:23.980 if

01:16:24.500 you

01:16:24.680 choose

01:16:24.980 to

01:16:25.140 use

01:16:25.360 that

01:16:25.580 power

01:16:25.960 and

01:16:26.420 that's

01:16:26.740 a

01:16:26.800 good

01:16:26.940 thing

01:16:27.120 to

01:16:27.260 know

01:16:27.480 you

01:16:27.620 know

01:16:27.720 if

01:16:27.840 you've

01:16:28.000 been

01:16:28.140 hurt

01:16:28.500 as

01:16:29.020 a

01:16:29.120 child

01:16:29.440 or

01:16:29.580 hurt

01:16:29.780 as

01:16:29.920 a

01:16:30.020 naive

01:16:30.280 person

01:16:30.680 you

01:16:30.840 might

01:16:30.980 say

01:16:31.140 well

01:16:31.280 why

01:16:31.420 should

01:16:31.620 I

01:16:31.720 ever

01:16:31.860 trust

01:16:32.200 again

01:16:32.520 which

01:16:33.000 is

01:16:33.100 a

01:16:33.180 really

01:16:33.320 good

01:16:33.520 question

01:16:33.980 and

01:16:34.740 answer

01:16:35.120 is

01:16:35.340 the reason

01:16:35.720 you

01:16:35.880 trust

01:16:36.160 again

01:16:36.420 once

01:16:36.740 you're

01:16:36.900 an

01:16:37.000 adult

01:16:37.280 is

01:16:37.500 because

01:16:37.780 you're

01:16:38.000 courageous

01:16:38.420 it's

01:16:40.740 an

01:16:40.880 act

01:16:41.220 of

01:16:41.360 courage

01:16:41.880 to

01:16:42.100 trust

01:16:42.500 and

01:16:43.020 the

01:16:43.140 reason

01:16:43.380 it's

01:16:43.720 useful

01:16:44.340 is

01:16:44.560 because

01:16:44.880 if

01:16:45.660 you

01:16:45.840 trust

01:16:46.200 someone

01:16:46.500 you

01:16:46.680 open

01:16:46.940 the

01:16:47.120 door

01:16:47.280 to

01:16:47.580 reciprocity

01:16:48.500 and

01:16:48.760 negotiation

01:16:49.720 and

01:16:50.240 cooperation

01:16:51.000 and

01:16:52.080 you

01:16:52.280 entice

01:16:52.860 the

01:16:53.100 best

01:16:53.360 part

01:16:53.640 of

01:16:53.760 the

01:16:53.900 person

01:16:54.260 forward

01:16:54.760 and

01:16:55.520 so

01:16:55.720 it's

01:16:56.020 a

01:16:56.240 courageous

01:16:56.960 act

01:16:57.520 but

01:16:58.400 then

01:16:58.560 if

01:16:58.680 you

01:16:58.800 betray

01:16:59.180 someone

01:16:59.680 then

01:16:59.960 what

01:17:00.240 you've

01:17:00.480 done

01:17:00.660 is

01:17:00.880 you've

01:17:01.760 taken

01:17:01.980 the

01:17:02.160 best

01:17:02.380 part

01:17:02.700 of

01:17:02.820 them

01:17:02.960 which

01:17:03.180 is

01:17:03.320 the

01:17:03.480 part

01:17:03.740 that

01:17:03.960 will

01:17:04.160 courageously

01:17:04.880 trust

01:17:05.440 you know

01:17:06.020 with

01:17:06.280 open

01:17:06.540 eyes

01:17:06.920 right

01:17:07.220 and

01:17:07.880 you've

01:17:08.300 stuck

01:17:08.780 a

01:17:08.920 dagger

01:17:09.180 in

01:17:09.420 that

01:17:09.640 and

01:17:09.800 so

01:17:09.960 you've

01:17:10.300 purposefully

01:17:11.280 damaged

01:17:11.840 the

01:17:12.100 best

01:17:12.440 part

01:17:12.800 of

01:17:12.960 them

01:17:13.140 and

01:17:13.820 so

01:17:13.980 that's

01:17:14.280 why

01:17:14.460 it's

01:17:14.660 such

01:17:14.880 a

01:17:15.200 egregious

01:17:15.920 fault

01:17:16.400 and

01:17:16.680 and

01:17:17.540 it's

01:17:18.600 often

01:17:18.860 people

01:17:19.180 don't

01:17:19.440 recover

01:17:19.800 from

01:17:20.060 that

01:17:20.260 sort

01:17:20.460 of

01:17:20.540 thing

01:17:20.700 if

01:17:21.460 you

01:17:21.560 betray

01:17:21.840 someone

01:17:22.180 badly

01:17:22.540 enough

01:17:22.840 you

01:17:23.000 can

01:17:23.180 damage

01:17:24.180 them

01:17:24.480 like

01:17:24.700 you

01:17:25.120 can

01:17:25.280 give

01:17:25.460 them

01:17:25.600 post-traumatic

01:17:26.200 stress

01:17:26.520 disorder

01:17:26.960 if

01:17:27.160 you

01:17:27.260 really

01:17:27.500 put

01:17:28.360 your

01:17:28.520 mind

01:17:28.780 to

01:17:28.980 it

01:17:29.120 and

01:17:29.240 you

01:17:29.660 know

01:17:29.740 that's

01:17:30.000 not

01:17:30.180 just

01:17:30.460 a

01:17:30.680 psychological

01:17:31.300 disorder

01:17:31.960 if

01:17:32.480 you

01:17:32.560 have

01:17:32.700 post-traumatic

01:17:33.220 stress

01:17:33.520 disorder

01:17:33.940 it

01:17:34.120 produces

01:17:34.440 permanent

01:17:34.960 neurological

01:17:35.540 alterations

01:17:36.300 that

01:17:36.520 make

01:17:36.760 you

01:17:36.920 more

01:17:37.280 neurotic

01:17:38.500 more

01:17:38.980 sensitive

01:17:39.360 to

01:17:39.620 negative

01:17:39.880 emotion

01:17:40.300 really

01:17:40.700 for

01:17:40.900 the

01:17:41.040 rest

01:17:41.240 of

01:17:41.380 your

01:17:41.500 life

01:17:41.800 like

01:17:42.240 you

01:17:42.380 can

01:17:42.500 recover

01:17:43.160 from

01:17:44.360 it

01:17:44.520 to

01:17:44.700 some

01:17:45.140 degree

01:17:45.660 but

01:17:46.200 stress

01:17:46.720 will

01:17:46.960 tend

01:17:47.240 to

01:17:47.500 re-instantiate

01:17:48.740 the

01:17:48.940 PTSD

01:17:49.480 so

01:17:50.640 you

01:17:51.280 hurt

01:17:51.920 someone

01:17:55.600 merely

01:17:55.980 but

01:17:56.180 it's

01:17:56.340 not

01:17:56.500 merely

01:17:56.940 psychological

01:17:57.560 right

01:17:57.880 it's

01:17:58.100 it's

01:17:58.580 fundamental

01:17:59.260 physiological

01:18:00.020 damage

01:18:00.680 so

01:18:01.920 anyways

01:18:03.220 Jacob's

01:18:03.780 smart enough

01:18:04.260 to get

01:18:04.800 out of

01:18:05.120 there

01:18:05.340 and

01:18:06.340 which

01:18:06.700 is

01:18:06.860 also

01:18:07.320 not

01:18:07.700 really

01:18:07.960 a

01:18:08.160 testament

01:18:08.520 to

01:18:08.860 his

01:18:09.200 integrity

01:18:10.000 right

01:18:10.480 I mean

01:18:11.220 he's

01:18:12.060 done

01:18:12.280 these

01:18:12.480 terrible

01:18:12.800 things

01:18:13.320 at

01:18:13.680 the

01:18:13.800 behest

01:18:14.160 of

01:18:14.300 his

01:18:14.440 mother

01:18:14.700 because

01:18:15.200 he

01:18:15.380 wants

01:18:15.640 power

01:18:16.120 and

01:18:16.960 and

01:18:17.600 he

01:18:17.760 wants

01:18:18.100 to

01:18:18.240 get

01:18:18.340 it

01:18:18.420 without

01:18:18.640 deserving

01:18:19.160 it

01:18:19.400 and

01:18:19.560 then

01:18:19.780 you

01:18:20.300 know

01:18:20.380 he

01:18:20.540 finally

01:18:20.880 goes

01:18:21.160 too

01:18:21.360 far

01:18:21.620 and

01:18:21.760 he

01:18:21.960 hightails

01:18:22.880 it

01:18:25.600 to

01:18:25.940 his

01:18:26.100 mother's

01:18:26.560 brother

01:18:27.560 and

01:18:28.240 so

01:18:28.580 it's

01:18:30.480 not

01:18:30.660 exactly

01:18:31.120 the

01:18:31.340 world's

01:18:31.800 most

01:18:32.020 heroic

01:18:32.400 story

01:18:33.700 that's

01:18:34.060 for

01:18:34.220 sure

01:18:34.420 and

01:18:35.080 so

01:18:35.300 now

01:18:35.620 there's

01:18:35.840 an

01:18:35.960 interlude

01:18:36.420 here

01:18:36.720 and

01:18:36.880 this

01:18:37.040 is

01:18:37.160 a

01:18:37.280 really

01:18:37.480 interesting

01:18:37.980 interlude

01:18:38.440 it's

01:18:39.600 the

01:18:39.740 story

01:18:40.020 of

01:18:40.180 Jacob's

01:18:40.600 ladder

01:18:40.860 so

01:18:41.940 he's

01:18:42.120 off

01:18:42.340 to

01:18:42.480 visit

01:18:42.760 Laban

01:18:43.220 or

01:18:43.440 Laban

01:18:43.840 who's

01:18:44.580 his

01:18:45.420 mother's

01:18:46.440 brother

01:18:46.840 and

01:18:47.620 on

01:18:47.760 the

01:18:47.860 way

01:18:48.080 he

01:18:48.420 has

01:18:50.040 a

01:18:50.140 sleep

01:18:50.400 and

01:18:51.100 he

01:18:51.480 lighted

01:18:51.760 upon

01:18:51.960 a

01:18:52.140 certain

01:18:52.340 place

01:18:52.680 and

01:18:52.860 tarried

01:18:53.180 there

01:18:53.360 all

01:18:53.560 night

01:18:53.800 because

01:18:54.380 the

01:18:54.560 sun

01:18:54.720 was

01:18:54.900 set

01:18:55.160 and

01:18:55.360 he

01:18:55.620 took

01:18:55.860 of

01:18:56.060 the

01:18:56.180 stones

01:18:56.440 of

01:18:56.560 that

01:18:56.700 place

01:18:56.960 and

01:18:57.100 put

01:18:57.260 them

01:18:57.380 for

01:18:57.520 his

01:18:57.680 pillows

01:18:58.040 which

01:18:58.880 seems

01:18:59.220 to

01:18:59.360 indicate

01:18:59.700 very

01:18:59.940 bad

01:19:00.200 planning

01:19:00.560 on

01:19:00.780 his

01:19:01.200 part

01:19:01.500 and

01:19:02.300 lay

01:19:03.060 down

01:19:03.300 in

01:19:03.420 that

01:19:03.560 place

01:19:03.820 to

01:19:04.000 sleep

01:19:04.240 and

01:19:04.400 he

01:19:04.500 dreamed

01:19:04.960 and

01:19:05.820 beheld

01:19:06.140 a ladder

01:19:06.580 set up

01:19:07.020 on the

01:19:07.260 earth

01:19:07.460 and

01:19:07.580 the

01:19:07.700 top

01:19:07.960 of

01:19:08.080 it

01:19:08.180 reached

01:19:08.460 to

01:19:08.620 heaven

01:19:08.860 and

01:19:09.420 beheld

01:19:09.740 the

01:19:09.900 angels

01:19:10.180 of

01:19:10.400 God

01:19:10.660 ascending

01:19:11.120 and

01:19:11.280 descending

01:19:11.680 on

01:19:11.960 it

01:19:12.120 and

01:19:12.580 behold

01:19:12.900 the

01:19:13.100 Lord

01:19:13.300 stood

01:19:23.560 so

01:19:23.820 this

01:19:24.320 story

01:19:25.040 of

01:19:25.180 Jacob's

01:19:25.600 ladder

01:19:25.860 has

01:19:26.080 really

01:19:26.340 possessed

01:19:26.880 the

01:19:27.560 imagination

01:19:28.020 of

01:19:28.520 the

01:19:28.640 West

01:19:28.980 and

01:19:29.540 there's

01:19:29.820 a

01:19:29.920 reason

01:19:30.180 for

01:19:30.400 that

01:19:30.640 it's

01:19:30.860 because

01:19:31.120 it's

01:19:31.320 an

01:19:31.440 archetypal

01:19:31.920 story

01:19:32.400 because

01:19:32.940 the

01:19:33.100 idea

01:19:33.400 of

01:19:33.520 a

01:19:33.660 ladder

01:19:33.940 that

01:19:34.160 reaches

01:19:34.440 to

01:19:34.640 heaven

01:19:34.840 is

01:19:35.060 one

01:19:35.220 of

01:19:35.320 the

01:19:35.420 oldest

01:19:35.780 ideas

01:19:36.260 of

01:19:36.460 mankind

01:19:36.820 so

01:19:37.680 you

01:19:37.820 find

01:19:38.080 it

01:19:38.220 widely

01:19:38.540 distributed

01:19:39.100 among

01:19:39.380 the

01:19:39.560 shamanic

01:19:39.980 cultures

01:19:40.360 for

01:19:40.540 example

01:19:40.940 and

01:19:41.420 it's

01:19:41.560 a

01:19:41.680 hallmark

01:19:42.120 of

01:19:42.320 psychedelic

01:19:42.980 experience

01:19:43.500 that's

01:19:43.900 another

01:19:44.120 way

01:19:44.320 of

01:19:44.460 thinking

01:19:44.680 about

01:19:44.980 it

01:19:45.120 which

01:19:45.460 is

01:19:45.560 a

01:19:45.660 very

01:19:45.800 peculiar

01:19:46.160 thing

01:19:46.520 so

01:19:46.960 there's

01:19:47.200 one

01:19:47.500 representation

01:19:48.440 of

01:19:48.940 the

01:19:49.360 ladder

01:19:49.660 you

01:19:50.080 see

01:19:50.200 God

01:19:50.440 up

01:19:50.600 at

01:19:50.740 the

01:19:50.840 top

01:19:51.060 there

01:19:51.340 peeking

01:19:52.880 out

01:19:53.020 from

01:19:53.200 the

01:19:53.340 clouds

01:19:53.680 now

01:19:54.080 you

01:19:55.080 know

01:19:55.180 that's

01:19:55.440 sort

01:19:55.600 of

01:19:55.680 where

01:19:55.820 we

01:19:55.940 get

01:19:56.060 the

01:19:56.220 idea

01:19:56.520 that

01:19:57.500 God

01:19:57.900 is

01:19:58.180 in

01:19:58.740 heaven

01:19:59.380 and

01:19:59.540 then

01:19:59.680 heaven

01:19:59.900 is

01:20:00.020 up

01:20:00.160 in

01:20:00.280 the

01:20:00.420 sky

01:20:00.800 and

01:20:01.520 that's

01:20:02.560 an

01:20:02.660 easy

01:20:02.900 story

01:20:03.700 to

01:20:03.840 make

01:20:03.980 fun

01:20:04.260 of

01:20:04.440 because

01:20:04.760 you

01:20:05.480 know

01:20:05.580 we've

01:20:05.840 gone

01:20:06.020 up

01:20:06.140 to

01:20:06.240 the

01:20:06.360 moon

01:20:06.580 and

01:20:06.780 there's

01:20:07.380 no

01:20:07.500 God

01:20:15.120 experiences

01:20:15.420 are

01:20:15.620 about

01:20:15.880 these

01:20:17.060 experiences

01:20:17.580 what

01:20:17.940 this

01:20:18.180 is

01:20:18.440 the

01:20:18.920 opening

01:20:19.280 up

01:20:19.500 there

01:20:19.700 that's

01:20:20.460 more

01:20:20.640 like

01:20:20.800 an

01:20:20.920 opening

01:20:21.180 into

01:20:21.540 an

01:20:21.860 alternate

01:20:22.620 dimension

01:20:23.200 that's

01:20:23.580 a

01:20:23.660 better

01:20:23.840 way

01:20:24.040 of

01:20:24.160 thinking

01:20:24.380 about

01:20:24.600 it

01:20:24.680 it's

01:20:24.820 beyond

01:20:25.180 like

01:20:25.420 from

01:20:25.940 the

01:20:26.300 Judeo-Christian

01:20:26.940 perspective

01:20:27.480 one of the

01:20:27.940 things

01:20:28.120 you have

01:20:28.380 to

01:20:28.500 understand

01:20:28.900 is

01:20:29.080 that

01:20:29.220 God

01:20:29.500 is

01:20:29.680 beyond

01:20:29.980 space

01:20:30.360 and

01:20:30.520 time

01:20:30.780 he's

01:20:31.280 not

01:20:31.460 in

01:20:31.720 the

01:20:31.880 universe

01:20:32.300 he's

01:20:32.960 outside

01:20:33.340 the

01:20:33.620 universe

01:20:33.920 in

01:20:34.160 some

01:20:34.360 manner

01:20:34.700 and

01:20:35.280 so

01:20:35.540 the

01:20:36.240 idea

01:20:36.540 that

01:20:36.840 you

01:20:37.540 have

01:20:37.700 an

01:20:37.800 experience

01:20:38.200 of

01:20:38.360 God

01:20:38.600 and

01:20:38.740 it's

01:20:38.960 up

01:20:39.260 isn't

01:20:39.640 the

01:20:40.020 up

01:20:40.280 is

01:20:40.520 the

01:20:41.040 best

01:20:41.400 that

01:20:41.640 the

01:20:41.780 human

01:20:42.000 imagination

01:20:42.440 can

01:20:42.960 do

01:20:43.320 with

01:20:43.900 what's

01:20:44.240 essentially

01:20:44.720 a

01:20:45.060 form

01:20:45.300 of

01:20:45.440 extra

01:20:45.720 dimensional

01:20:46.120 experience

01:20:46.820 or

01:20:47.640 that's

01:20:48.220 the

01:20:48.380 best

01:20:48.780 way

01:20:49.000 to

01:20:49.160 conceptualize

01:20:49.880 it

01:20:50.020 and

01:20:50.340 these

01:20:50.500 experiences

01:20:51.000 aren't

01:20:51.360 rare

01:20:51.700 you know

01:20:52.160 they

01:20:52.320 make

01:20:52.880 up

01:20:53.840 the

01:20:54.020 core

01:20:54.380 of

01:20:54.820 the

01:20:54.960 shamanic

01:20:55.440 tradition

01:20:55.860 and

01:20:56.060 so

01:20:56.200 there's

01:20:56.660 an

01:20:56.780 intrusion

01:20:57.400 of

01:20:57.640 the

01:20:57.800 ancient

01:20:58.220 shamanic

01:20:58.780 tradition

01:20:59.140 which

01:20:59.380 is

01:20:59.520 tens

01:20:59.800 of

01:20:59.960 thousands

01:21:00.240 of

01:21:00.480 years

01:21:00.660 old

01:21:01.000 into

01:21:01.620 the

01:21:02.220 biblical

01:21:02.520 stories

01:21:02.960 at

01:21:03.140 this

01:21:03.340 point

01:21:03.640 now

01:21:04.100 why

01:21:05.540 Jacob

01:21:06.040 had

01:21:06.360 essentially

01:21:07.280 shamanic

01:21:07.840 experience

01:21:08.300 is

01:21:08.500 very

01:21:08.660 difficult

01:21:08.980 to

01:21:09.220 tell

01:21:09.400 because

01:21:09.660 we

01:21:09.840 don't

01:21:10.020 know

01:21:10.220 what

01:21:10.640 these

01:21:10.800 old

01:21:10.980 people

01:21:11.260 were

01:21:11.440 up

01:21:11.640 to

01:21:11.840 right

01:21:12.120 and

01:21:12.240 we

01:21:12.340 don't

01:21:12.480 know

01:21:12.600 how

01:21:12.800 much

01:21:13.080 of

01:21:13.220 the

01:21:13.460 archaic

01:21:14.780 tradition

01:21:15.480 archaic

01:21:16.260 religious

01:21:16.620 tradition

01:21:17.120 was

01:21:17.660 still

01:21:17.880 extant

01:21:18.440 at

01:21:18.640 that

01:21:18.860 point

01:21:19.960 in

01:21:20.120 time

01:21:20.360 but

01:21:20.520 we

01:21:20.880 certainly

01:21:21.160 do

01:21:21.400 know

01:21:21.640 that

01:21:21.820 our

01:21:22.040 ancient

01:21:22.680 forebears

01:21:23.440 were

01:21:24.600 using

01:21:25.040 psychedelic

01:21:25.800 substances

01:21:26.380 constantly

01:21:27.040 like

01:21:27.460 Amanita

01:21:27.820 muscaria

01:21:28.320 mushrooms

01:21:28.800 for

01:21:32.220 distinct

01:21:32.460 that's

01:21:32.760 the

01:21:32.920 theory

01:21:33.200 anyways

01:21:33.620 that

01:21:34.320 seemed

01:21:34.560 to

01:21:34.680 be

01:21:34.780 the

01:21:34.920 basis

01:21:35.220 of

01:21:35.480 the

01:21:35.680 chemical

01:21:36.200 soma

01:21:36.840 which

01:21:37.460 much

01:21:38.140 has

01:21:38.280 been

01:21:38.440 written

01:21:38.660 about

01:21:38.980 and

01:21:39.760 so

01:21:40.000 we

01:21:41.400 hear

01:21:41.640 of

01:21:41.840 this

01:21:42.040 as

01:21:42.180 a

01:21:42.320 dream

01:21:42.640 or

01:21:43.260 as

01:21:43.440 a

01:21:43.520 vision

01:21:43.780 and

01:21:44.020 perhaps

01:21:44.320 that's

01:21:44.620 what

01:21:44.760 it

01:21:44.880 was

01:21:45.080 but

01:21:45.260 perhaps

01:21:45.640 that

01:21:45.840 wasn't

01:21:46.180 what

01:21:46.340 it

01:21:46.460 was

01:21:46.660 either

01:21:46.920 and

01:21:47.160 perhaps

01:21:47.500 it

01:21:47.660 was

01:21:47.860 an

01:21:49.300 experience

01:21:49.800 that

01:21:49.960 was

01:21:50.100 induced

01:21:50.500 by

01:21:50.840 the

01:21:53.040 same

01:21:53.440 processes

01:21:54.720 that

01:21:55.140 shamanic

01:21:56.460 people

01:21:56.740 have

01:21:56.940 always

01:21:57.220 induced

01:21:57.620 these

01:21:57.840 experiences

01:21:58.380 and

01:21:58.540 so

01:21:58.620 we're

01:21:58.760 going

01:21:58.840 to

01:21:58.880 go

01:21:59.000 through

01:21:59.160 this

01:21:59.380 a

01:21:59.500 little

01:21:59.620 bit

01:21:59.820 so

01:22:00.000 anyways

01:22:01.000 there's

01:22:01.560 a

01:22:01.740 connection

01:22:02.540 between

01:22:02.980 heaven

01:22:03.220 and

01:22:03.380 earth

01:22:03.600 that

01:22:03.760 opens

01:22:04.040 up

01:22:04.260 that's

01:22:04.600 the

01:22:06.840 vision

01:22:07.620 and

01:22:08.120 there's

01:22:08.320 messengers

01:22:08.820 moving up

01:22:09.360 and down

01:22:09.660 now

01:22:09.880 one

01:22:10.300 way

01:22:10.480 you

01:22:10.600 can

01:22:10.740 conceptualize

01:22:11.500 that

01:22:11.700 is

01:22:11.860 psychologically

01:22:12.420 as

01:22:12.840 we

01:22:13.100 already

01:22:13.320 discussed

01:22:13.820 that

01:22:14.060 you

01:22:14.880 know

01:22:14.980 there

01:22:15.160 are

01:22:15.640 forces

01:22:16.680 within

01:22:17.300 you

01:22:17.600 that

01:22:17.860 are

01:22:18.040 active

01:22:18.440 and

01:22:18.620 alive

01:22:19.040 and

01:22:19.780 you

01:22:20.220 can

01:22:20.380 think

01:22:20.560 of

01:22:20.680 them

01:22:20.840 in

01:22:20.960 some

01:22:21.160 sense

01:22:21.440 as

01:22:21.620 messengers

01:22:22.300 of

01:22:22.540 the

01:22:22.700 higher

01:22:23.000 self

01:22:23.540 and

01:22:28.620 so

01:22:29.280 we

01:22:29.420 can

01:22:29.560 stick

01:22:29.780 with

01:22:30.000 that

01:22:30.260 but

01:22:30.520 but

01:22:31.700 here's

01:22:34.180 some

01:22:34.320 of

01:22:34.400 the

01:22:34.500 representations

01:22:35.160 that

01:22:35.520 have

01:22:35.620 been

01:22:35.780 made

01:22:36.040 I

01:22:36.480 really

01:22:36.680 like

01:22:36.880 the

01:22:37.000 one

01:22:37.180 on

01:22:37.540 the

01:22:37.660 right

01:22:37.960 that's

01:22:39.020 William

01:22:39.320 Blake

01:22:39.640 I

01:22:39.820 like

01:22:40.040 the

01:22:40.320 helix

01:22:41.480 idea

01:22:42.140 and

01:22:42.640 I

01:22:42.760 don't

01:22:42.940 think

01:22:43.180 that

01:22:43.360 that's

01:22:43.760 that's

01:22:44.800 fluke

01:22:45.220 there

01:22:45.380 are

01:22:45.540 helixes

01:22:45.960 and

01:22:46.180 double

01:22:46.420 helixes

01:22:46.860 and

01:22:47.100 all

01:22:47.280 sorts

01:22:47.520 of

01:22:47.660 imagery

01:22:48.080 very

01:22:49.360 ancient

01:22:49.800 and

01:22:50.020 very

01:22:50.260 modern

01:22:50.600 that

01:22:51.080 are

01:22:51.180 associated

01:22:51.680 with

01:22:51.960 both

01:22:52.260 healing

01:22:52.580 and

01:22:52.760 with

01:22:52.900 this

01:22:53.060 kind

01:22:53.300 of

01:22:53.440 vision

01:22:53.740 so

01:22:54.760 and

01:22:58.620 associated

01:22:58.920 with

01:22:59.240 well

01:22:59.700 really

01:23:00.060 with

01:23:00.300 the

01:23:00.500 sun

01:23:00.860 and

01:23:01.480 with

01:23:01.620 light

01:23:02.020 and

01:23:02.420 you

01:23:02.740 see

01:23:02.920 that

01:23:03.140 on

01:23:03.440 the

01:23:03.560 left

01:23:03.820 as

01:23:04.040 well

01:23:04.280 that

01:23:04.500 wherever

01:23:05.120 God

01:23:05.480 is

01:23:05.740 is

01:23:05.900 where

01:23:06.120 light

01:23:06.460 is

01:23:06.740 and

01:23:06.940 so

01:23:07.080 that's

01:23:07.320 a

01:23:07.420 very

01:23:07.600 interesting

01:23:08.060 idea

01:23:08.440 as far

01:23:08.740 as I'm

01:23:09.020 concerned

01:23:09.360 as

01:23:09.560 well

01:23:09.840 there's

01:23:11.080 some

01:23:11.220 other

01:23:11.400 representations

01:23:12.120 one

01:23:16.660 by

01:23:16.860 Shagel

01:23:17.360 so

01:23:23.180 now

01:23:23.440 there's

01:23:23.680 this

01:23:23.880 idea

01:23:24.220 that

01:23:24.420 there's

01:23:24.680 a

01:23:24.840 there's

01:23:25.340 the

01:23:25.500 possibility

01:23:26.100 of

01:23:26.240 opening up

01:23:26.700 a

01:23:26.820 line

01:23:27.000 of

01:23:27.140 communication

01:23:27.760 between

01:23:28.200 the

01:23:28.420 human

01:23:28.620 psyche

01:23:28.980 and

01:23:29.220 the

01:23:29.400 transcendent

01:23:30.080 divine

01:23:30.500 and

01:23:31.300 there's

01:23:31.900 a

01:23:32.140 there's

01:23:32.940 a

01:23:33.060 great

01:23:33.360 image

01:23:33.740 of

01:23:33.920 Christ

01:23:34.300 as

01:23:34.520 creator

01:23:34.920 of

01:23:35.900 the

01:23:36.000 world

01:23:36.320 that is

01:23:36.940 one of

01:23:37.200 the

01:23:37.320 first

01:23:37.640 mosaics

01:23:38.420 if I

01:23:39.180 remember

01:23:39.480 correctly

01:23:39.880 and I

01:23:40.160 wish I

01:23:40.480 knew

01:23:40.620 remember

01:23:41.160 where

01:23:41.400 it

01:23:41.520 was

01:23:41.720 but I

01:23:42.000 don't

01:23:42.280 but it's

01:23:42.820 a

01:23:43.040 very

01:23:43.240 interesting

01:23:43.680 image

01:23:44.040 I'm

01:23:44.780 having

01:23:45.060 a

01:23:45.220 carving

01:23:45.500 of

01:23:45.700 it

01:23:45.800 made

01:23:46.020 at

01:23:46.160 the

01:23:46.280 moment

01:23:46.480 by

01:23:46.680 a

01:23:46.800 friend

01:23:46.980 of

01:23:47.120 mine

01:23:47.280 but

01:23:47.460 you

01:23:49.400 see

01:23:49.620 Christ's

01:23:50.220 face

01:23:50.600 portrayed

01:23:52.260 in

01:23:52.780 a

01:23:52.900 medieval

01:23:53.240 manner

01:23:53.560 and

01:23:53.680 he's

01:23:53.820 holding

01:23:54.060 a

01:23:54.260 book

01:23:54.520 so

01:23:54.780 it

01:23:55.680 symbolizes

01:23:56.400 the

01:23:56.600 importance

01:23:57.000 of

01:23:57.260 the

01:23:57.600 book

01:23:57.880 as a

01:23:59.080 means

01:23:59.280 of

01:23:59.480 transmitting

01:24:00.060 wisdom

01:24:00.500 and his

01:24:01.340 face

01:24:01.680 is

01:24:01.840 very

01:24:02.060 asymmetrical

01:24:02.800 and

01:24:03.800 the eyes

01:24:04.480 are

01:24:04.640 different

01:24:04.960 one side

01:24:05.600 and the

01:24:05.840 other

01:24:06.040 and

01:24:06.300 one

01:24:06.840 half

01:24:07.320 of the

01:24:07.560 face

01:24:07.780 represents

01:24:08.320 the

01:24:08.600 human

01:24:08.900 part

01:24:09.240 and

01:24:09.420 the

01:24:09.520 other

01:24:09.740 side

01:24:10.480 of

01:24:10.540 the

01:24:10.620 face

01:24:10.800 represents

01:24:11.300 the

01:24:11.540 divine

01:24:11.900 part

01:24:12.240 and

01:24:12.440 you

01:24:13.080 know

01:24:13.180 I

01:24:13.420 also

01:24:13.860 think

01:24:14.140 about

01:24:14.340 that

01:24:14.600 psychologically

01:24:15.200 because

01:24:15.760 I

01:24:16.560 do

01:24:16.760 think

01:24:17.120 that

01:24:17.320 that's

01:24:18.020 the

01:24:18.680 right

01:24:18.880 way

01:24:19.060 to

01:24:19.180 conceptualize

01:24:19.880 human

01:24:20.160 beings

01:24:20.600 is

01:24:20.840 that

01:24:21.060 there's

01:24:21.560 an

01:24:21.680 aspect

01:24:21.960 of

01:24:22.200 us

01:24:22.360 that's

01:24:22.680 mortal

01:24:23.280 and

01:24:23.540 human

01:24:23.980 and

01:24:24.160 limited

01:24:24.480 but

01:24:24.720 there's

01:24:24.900 an

01:24:25.000 aspect

01:24:25.300 of

01:24:25.520 us

01:24:25.660 that's

01:24:25.940 transcendent

01:24:26.640 and

01:24:26.820 divine

01:24:27.180 as

01:24:27.420 well

01:24:27.680 and

01:24:28.140 it's

01:24:28.300 latent

01:24:28.700 in

01:24:29.000 some

01:24:29.220 sense

01:24:29.500 but

01:24:29.660 there

01:24:29.820 are

01:24:30.020 times

01:24:30.540 when

01:24:30.760 it

01:24:31.140 manifests

01:24:31.680 itself

01:24:31.980 and

01:24:32.120 this

01:24:32.540 is

01:24:32.720 not

01:24:33.020 speculation

01:24:34.060 right

01:24:35.560 this

01:24:35.820 is

01:24:36.020 like

01:24:36.300 the

01:24:36.520 oldest

01:24:36.940 experience

01:24:37.660 of

01:24:37.820 human

01:24:38.100 beings

01:24:38.460 now

01:24:38.680 it's

01:24:39.080 not

01:24:39.280 necessarily

01:24:45.200 as

01:24:45.520 we've

01:24:45.780 discussed

01:24:46.120 before

01:24:46.480 by

01:24:46.680 chemical

01:24:47.080 means

01:24:47.460 which

01:24:47.680 and

01:24:48.000 I

01:24:48.140 don't

01:24:48.360 know

01:24:48.600 what

01:24:48.860 that

01:24:49.100 means

01:24:49.400 exactly

01:24:49.840 we've

01:24:50.120 talked

01:24:50.340 a

01:24:50.460 little

01:24:50.560 bit

01:24:50.740 about

01:24:51.000 psilocybin

01:24:51.580 mushrooms

01:24:52.000 for

01:24:52.200 example

01:24:52.580 and

01:24:52.820 you

01:24:53.320 could

01:24:53.480 say

01:24:53.720 that

01:24:53.940 the

01:24:54.140 mystical

01:24:54.520 experiences

01:24:55.220 that

01:24:55.480 have

01:24:55.620 been

01:24:55.780 invoked

01:24:56.200 in

01:24:56.360 the

01:24:56.460 newest

01:24:56.720 experiments

01:24:57.340 down

01:24:57.640 at

01:24:58.420 Johns

01:24:58.920 Hopkins

01:24:59.420 are

01:24:59.800 derangements

01:25:01.220 or

01:25:01.400 forms

01:25:01.820 of

01:25:02.000 psychosis

01:25:02.760 you

01:25:03.140 know

01:25:03.300 because

01:25:03.640 they

01:25:04.000 have

01:25:04.180 some

01:25:04.460 similarity

01:25:05.180 to

01:25:05.980 psychotic

01:25:06.600 experiences

01:25:07.400 although

01:25:07.820 psychotic

01:25:09.100 people

01:25:09.380 were

01:25:09.540 given

01:25:09.820 LSD

01:25:10.260 in

01:25:10.420 the

01:25:10.580 60s

01:25:11.180 and

01:25:11.620 they

01:25:11.760 always

01:25:12.040 said

01:25:12.280 that

01:25:12.440 that

01:25:12.580 was

01:25:12.720 something

01:25:13.000 different

01:25:13.360 than

01:25:13.620 what

01:25:13.840 they

01:25:14.000 were

01:25:14.140 having

01:25:14.460 and

01:25:15.060 if

01:25:15.460 you

01:25:15.560 give

01:25:15.720 psychotic

01:25:16.200 people

01:25:16.480 amphetamines

01:25:17.220 you

01:25:17.360 can

01:25:17.520 make

01:25:17.680 them

01:25:17.860 worse

01:25:18.200 so

01:25:18.560 they're

01:25:18.760 biochemically

01:25:19.400 separate

01:25:19.840 and

01:25:20.400 we

01:25:20.700 know

01:25:20.880 that

01:25:21.160 but

01:25:21.800 also

01:25:22.100 the

01:25:22.280 thing

01:25:22.480 that's

01:25:22.660 so

01:25:22.800 interesting

01:25:23.220 about

01:25:23.480 the

01:25:23.660 psilocybin

01:25:24.220 experiences

01:25:24.760 is

01:25:25.040 that

01:25:25.260 they

01:25:26.060 reliably

01:25:26.520 produce

01:25:26.960 mystical

01:25:27.400 experiences

01:25:28.000 that

01:25:28.320 the

01:25:28.460 people

01:25:28.720 rate

01:25:29.000 as

01:25:29.220 among

01:25:29.480 the

01:25:29.620 most

01:25:29.820 important

01:25:30.180 experiences

01:25:30.620 of

01:25:30.820 their

01:25:30.960 life

01:25:31.340 and

01:25:32.220 among

01:25:32.920 those

01:25:40.420 theory

01:25:40.800 right

01:25:41.040 because

01:25:41.320 what

01:25:41.680 are

01:25:41.780 you

01:25:41.800 going

01:25:41.900 to

01:25:41.980 do

01:25:42.100 you

01:25:42.220 going

01:25:42.340 to

01:25:42.420 claim

01:25:42.680 that

01:25:42.880 you

01:25:43.360 give

01:25:43.780 someone

01:25:43.980 a

01:25:44.120 pill

01:25:44.320 and

01:25:44.500 they

01:25:44.580 have

01:25:44.700 a

01:25:44.800 psychotic

01:25:45.200 break

01:25:45.460 and

01:25:45.580 then

01:25:45.700 they're

01:25:45.820 healthier

01:25:46.260 it's

01:25:46.760 like

01:25:46.920 no

01:25:47.300 that

01:25:47.840 isn't

01:25:48.040 how

01:25:48.160 psychotic

01:25:48.700 breaks

01:25:49.000 work

01:25:49.380 you're

01:25:49.960 not

01:25:50.160 healthier

01:25:50.540 after

01:25:50.860 having

01:25:51.200 one

01:25:51.460 you're

01:25:52.060 like

01:25:52.420 you're

01:25:52.860 a

01:25:52.960 broken

01:25:53.260 egg

01:25:53.560 and

01:25:53.660 it's

01:25:53.820 not

01:25:54.000 easy

01:25:54.200 to

01:25:54.340 put

01:25:54.500 you

01:25:54.600 back

01:25:54.800 together

01:25:55.220 so

01:25:56.120 and

01:25:57.340 we

01:25:57.460 know

01:25:57.640 that

01:25:57.800 people

01:25:58.080 all

01:25:58.260 over

01:25:58.420 the

01:25:58.540 world

01:25:58.800 have

01:25:59.000 discovered

01:26:10.420 peculiar

01:26:10.860 happened

01:26:11.360 as a

01:26:11.700 consequence

01:26:12.160 so

01:26:13.420 so

01:26:17.140 I'm

01:26:17.440 going to

01:26:17.620 tell you

01:26:17.900 a little

01:26:18.120 bit

01:26:18.260 about

01:26:18.440 the

01:26:18.600 shamanic

01:26:19.100 tradition

01:26:20.960 because

01:26:21.380 it's

01:26:21.600 associated

01:26:22.140 with

01:26:22.380 Jacob's

01:26:22.820 ladder

01:26:23.060 so

01:26:23.340 according

01:26:24.960 to

01:26:25.160 Iliad

01:26:25.560 it was

01:26:26.600 a great

01:26:26.880 historian

01:26:27.280 of

01:26:27.440 religion

01:26:27.820 a

01:26:28.320 compatriot

01:26:29.200 of

01:26:29.360 Jung's

01:26:29.720 and

01:26:30.180 they

01:26:30.740 influenced

01:26:31.140 each

01:26:31.380 other

01:26:31.580 quite

01:26:31.980 substantially

01:26:32.560 Iliad

01:26:33.320 believed

01:26:33.720 that

01:26:33.960 shamanism

01:26:34.560 that

01:26:35.160 used

01:26:35.640 psychedelics

01:26:36.380 was

01:26:36.560 a

01:26:36.720 degeneration

01:26:37.280 from

01:26:37.800 the

01:26:38.000 original

01:26:38.560 more

01:26:39.320 pure

01:26:39.700 shamanism

01:26:40.280 but

01:26:40.460 I

01:26:41.040 think

01:26:41.280 later

01:26:41.500 scholarship

01:26:41.940 has

01:26:42.160 demonstrated

01:26:42.640 that

01:26:42.860 that's

01:26:43.140 incorrect

01:26:43.560 that

01:26:43.940 the

01:26:44.960 shamanic

01:26:45.440 ritual

01:26:45.800 per se

01:26:46.300 was

01:26:46.680 a

01:26:47.360 direct

01:26:47.600 consequence

01:26:48.080 of

01:26:48.400 the

01:26:48.580 use

01:26:48.940 discovery

01:26:49.540 of

01:26:49.820 and

01:26:50.140 ritualistic

01:26:51.380 use

01:26:51.660 of

01:26:51.820 psychedelic

01:26:52.340 substances

01:26:52.760 but

01:26:53.020 anyways

01:26:53.580 Iliad

01:26:54.400 identified

01:26:55.300 three

01:26:55.860 pathways

01:26:56.820 to

01:26:57.320 shamanism

01:26:58.680 and

01:26:58.860 the

01:26:59.100 shaman

01:26:59.420 in a

01:26:59.940 tribe

01:27:00.300 was

01:27:01.480 more

01:27:02.060 educated

01:27:02.600 than

01:27:03.060 the

01:27:03.380 typical

01:27:03.740 person

01:27:04.680 with

01:27:05.280 a

01:27:05.420 larger

01:27:05.740 vocabulary

01:27:06.400 and

01:27:07.560 was

01:27:07.700 the

01:27:07.880 repository

01:27:08.440 of

01:27:08.860 the

01:27:09.020 oral

01:27:09.240 tradition

01:27:09.700 and

01:27:10.560 so

01:27:10.840 learned

01:27:11.560 all

01:27:11.840 the

01:27:12.080 stories

01:27:12.620 that

01:27:12.840 had

01:27:13.020 been

01:27:13.200 passed

01:27:13.740 down

01:27:14.080 word to

01:27:14.800 mouth

01:27:15.020 and

01:27:15.200 people

01:27:15.740 by the

01:27:16.060 way

01:27:16.180 are

01:27:16.300 very

01:27:16.540 very

01:27:16.840 accurately

01:27:18.960 tell

01:27:19.380 the

01:27:19.600 same

01:27:19.840 story

01:27:20.140 across

01:27:20.480 generations

01:27:21.060 that's

01:27:21.380 been

01:27:21.540 quite

01:27:21.860 well

01:27:22.100 documented

01:27:22.640 so

01:27:23.500 and

01:27:24.020 people

01:27:24.960 who

01:27:25.140 can't

01:27:25.460 read

01:27:25.700 really

01:27:26.240 can

01:27:26.620 remember

01:27:27.140 because

01:27:27.500 what

01:27:27.820 else

01:27:28.000 are

01:27:28.080 they

01:27:28.180 going

01:27:28.300 to

01:27:28.380 do

01:27:28.580 their

01:27:29.300 memories

01:27:29.680 are

01:27:29.940 far

01:27:30.460 greater

01:27:30.820 than

01:27:31.080 modern

01:27:31.580 people's

01:27:31.980 memories

01:27:32.260 because

01:27:32.420 we

01:27:32.600 can

01:27:32.860 forget

01:27:33.080 everything

01:27:33.420 because

01:27:33.680 we

01:27:33.820 can

01:27:33.900 just

01:27:34.040 look

01:27:34.220 it

01:27:34.340 up

01:27:34.520 but

01:27:35.080 they

01:27:35.300 remembered

01:27:35.900 things

01:27:36.320 because

01:27:36.960 they

01:27:37.100 had

01:27:37.260 no

01:27:37.400 choice

01:27:37.780 my

01:27:38.360 father

01:27:38.660 knew

01:27:38.880 someone

01:27:39.240 who

01:27:39.580 was

01:27:39.860 illiterate

01:27:41.140 and

01:27:41.420 couldn't

01:27:43.040 use

01:27:43.200 numbers

01:27:43.580 either

01:27:43.860 when

01:27:44.560 he

01:27:44.940 grew

01:27:45.140 up

01:27:45.280 in

01:27:45.440 Saskatchewan

01:27:46.100 you

01:27:46.780 know

01:27:46.940 60

01:27:47.820 years

01:27:48.100 ago

01:27:48.320 and

01:27:49.160 he

01:27:49.440 had

01:27:50.600 sheep

01:27:51.000 if I

01:27:51.280 remember

01:27:51.560 correctly

01:27:52.040 and

01:27:52.620 although

01:27:52.860 he

01:27:53.040 couldn't

01:27:53.320 count

01:27:53.560 he

01:27:53.740 knew

01:27:53.980 if

01:27:54.240 one

01:27:54.400 of

01:27:54.480 his

01:27:54.600 sheep

01:27:54.780 was

01:27:54.940 missing

01:27:55.300 because

01:27:56.040 he

01:27:56.140 knew

01:27:56.240 all

01:27:56.380 the

01:27:56.500 sheep

01:27:56.800 and

01:27:57.580 so

01:27:57.700 he

01:27:57.820 could

01:27:57.960 tell

01:27:58.160 just

01:27:58.360 by

01:27:58.520 looking

01:27:58.900 if

01:27:59.120 one

01:27:59.300 of

01:27:59.400 the

01:27:59.520 sheep

01:27:59.700 was

01:27:59.880 missing

01:28:00.160 but

01:28:00.440 he

01:28:00.580 couldn't

01:28:00.820 count

01:28:01.220 and

01:28:01.800 so

01:28:02.060 people

01:28:03.680 who

01:28:03.900 don't

01:28:04.120 have

01:28:04.320 our

01:28:04.520 particular

01:28:04.880 set

01:28:05.200 of

01:28:05.340 skills

01:28:05.720 first

01:28:06.240 of

01:28:06.340 all

01:28:06.420 they're

01:28:06.540 not

01:28:06.700 stupid

01:28:07.080 and

01:28:07.280 second

01:28:07.560 they

01:28:07.780 have

01:28:07.960 other

01:28:08.240 skills

01:28:08.640 that

01:28:08.840 we

01:28:08.980 don't

01:28:18.320 extremely

01:28:18.640 high

01:28:18.920 in

01:28:19.040 openness

01:28:19.380 let's

01:28:19.760 say

01:28:19.920 from

01:28:20.120 a

01:28:20.260 modern

01:28:20.460 perspective

01:28:20.960 hereditary

01:28:21.800 transmission

01:28:22.480 so

01:28:22.920 you know

01:28:23.820 your father

01:28:24.260 was a

01:28:24.580 shaman

01:28:24.820 and

01:28:24.980 your

01:28:25.100 grandfather

01:28:25.420 was a

01:28:25.860 shaman

01:28:26.100 and so

01:28:26.440 forth

01:28:26.740 and

01:28:26.880 you

01:28:26.980 got

01:28:27.200 initiated

01:28:27.760 into

01:28:28.040 that

01:28:28.240 process

01:28:28.660 or

01:28:28.960 a

01:28:29.580 personal

01:28:29.900 quest

01:28:30.400 in

01:28:32.800 Siberia

01:28:33.340 this is

01:28:33.980 from

01:28:34.160 Eliada

01:28:34.540 in

01:28:34.900 Siberia

01:28:35.340 the

01:28:35.500 youth

01:28:35.740 who

01:28:35.860 is

01:28:35.980 called

01:28:36.300 to

01:28:36.760 be

01:28:36.860 a

01:28:37.000 shaman

01:28:37.320 attracts

01:28:38.160 attention

01:28:38.600 by

01:28:38.840 his

01:28:39.040 strange

01:28:39.320 behavior

01:28:39.820 for

01:28:40.660 example

01:28:41.000 he

01:28:41.200 seeks

01:28:41.400 solitude

01:28:41.860 becomes

01:28:42.220 absent

01:28:42.600 minded

01:28:42.880 loves

01:28:43.180 to roam

01:28:43.560 in the

01:28:48.320 place

01:28:49.280 that's

01:28:49.620 deprived

01:28:50.420 that's

01:28:51.200 where

01:28:51.700 you're

01:28:51.940 deprived

01:28:52.580 from

01:28:53.220 a

01:28:53.360 sensory

01:28:53.740 perspective

01:28:54.320 normal

01:28:55.620 people

01:28:55.920 will

01:28:56.120 hallucinate

01:28:56.540 quite

01:28:56.780 quickly

01:28:57.180 so

01:28:57.940 it

01:28:58.060 seems

01:28:58.260 what

01:28:58.460 happens

01:28:58.820 is

01:28:58.980 that

01:28:59.120 if

01:28:59.260 you

01:28:59.400 dampen

01:28:59.880 down

01:29:00.180 the

01:29:00.420 sensory

01:29:00.780 input

01:29:01.160 then

01:29:01.780 you

01:29:01.960 start

01:29:02.180 to

01:29:02.280 become

01:29:02.520 aware

01:29:02.760 of

01:29:02.880 the

01:29:03.000 background

01:29:03.380 processes

01:29:03.940 of

01:29:04.160 your

01:29:04.280 mind

01:29:04.560 it's

01:29:04.760 something

01:29:04.980 like

01:29:05.180 that

01:29:05.400 it's

01:29:05.560 like

01:29:05.700 the

01:29:05.880 signal

01:29:06.180 to

01:29:06.360 noise

01:29:06.620 ratio

01:29:07.100 I

01:29:07.820 got

01:29:08.060 to

01:29:08.140 get

01:29:08.240 this

01:29:08.440 right

01:29:08.740 as

01:29:10.100 the

01:29:10.300 noise

01:29:10.760 decreases

01:29:11.920 some

01:29:13.080 of

01:29:13.220 the

01:29:13.340 noise

01:29:13.660 becomes

01:29:14.060 signal

01:29:14.520 the

01:29:14.700 background

01:29:15.040 noise

01:29:15.360 becomes

01:29:15.700 signal

01:29:16.080 and

01:29:16.480 you

01:29:16.580 start

01:29:16.800 to

01:29:16.920 become

01:29:17.140 aware

01:29:17.420 of

01:29:17.560 your

01:29:17.680 own

01:29:17.840 internal

01:29:18.140 psychological

01:29:18.700 processes

01:29:19.300 it's

01:29:19.540 something

01:29:19.780 like

01:29:20.000 that

01:29:20.280 he

01:29:21.020 has

01:29:21.160 visions

01:29:21.520 and

01:29:21.760 sings

01:29:22.000 in

01:29:22.160 his

01:29:22.320 sleep

01:29:22.640 in

01:29:23.240 some

01:29:23.460 instances

01:29:23.900 this

01:29:24.220 period

01:29:24.500 of

01:29:24.660 incubation

01:29:25.240 is

01:29:25.400 marked

01:29:25.620 by

01:29:25.780 quite

01:29:25.980 serious

01:29:26.300 symptoms

01:29:26.720 among

01:29:27.020 the

01:29:27.180 Yakut

01:29:27.600 young

01:29:28.320 man

01:29:28.520 sometimes

01:29:28.880 has

01:29:29.080 fits

01:29:29.340 of

01:29:29.520 fury

01:29:29.820 and

01:29:30.000 easily

01:29:30.320 loses

01:29:30.660 consciousness

01:29:31.280 hides

01:29:31.680 in

01:29:31.840 the

01:29:31.960 forest

01:29:32.300 feeds

01:29:32.880 on

01:29:33.040 the

01:29:33.140 bark

01:29:33.360 of

01:29:33.500 trees

01:29:33.840 throws

01:29:34.420 himself

01:29:34.820 into

01:29:35.020 water

01:29:35.340 and

01:29:35.520 fire

01:29:35.820 and

01:29:44.520 here

01:29:44.640 ago

01:29:44.860 and

01:29:45.020 they

01:29:45.540 had

01:29:45.700 this

01:29:45.860 one

01:29:46.060 dance

01:29:46.560 it

01:29:46.760 was

01:29:46.880 the

01:29:47.040 Kwakwakawak

01:29:47.800 natives

01:29:48.540 and

01:29:48.820 they

01:29:49.500 had

01:29:49.620 this

01:29:49.800 interesting

01:29:50.240 dance

01:29:50.680 that

01:29:50.860 was

01:29:51.000 the

01:29:51.140 dance

01:29:51.400 of

01:29:51.540 the

01:29:51.660 wild

01:29:51.960 man

01:29:52.260 and

01:29:52.420 so

01:29:52.680 the

01:29:53.500 person

01:29:53.760 who

01:29:53.880 invited

01:29:54.160 us

01:29:54.400 was

01:29:54.560 the

01:29:54.720 wild

01:29:54.940 man

01:29:55.180 and

01:29:55.300 he

01:29:55.420 was

01:29:55.580 dressed

01:29:55.840 up

01:29:56.060 in

01:29:56.300 tree

01:29:57.580 branches

01:29:57.960 and

01:29:58.220 so

01:29:58.380 forth

01:29:58.700 and

01:29:58.840 so

01:29:59.000 he

01:29:59.160 was

01:29:59.340 the

01:29:59.620 person

01:29:59.920 who

01:30:00.060 had

01:30:00.160 been

01:30:00.300 in

01:30:00.440 the

01:30:00.560 bush

01:30:00.780 too

01:30:01.060 long

01:30:01.460 and

01:30:02.280 he

01:30:02.400 came

01:30:02.620 in

01:30:02.760 as

01:30:02.900 a

01:30:03.000 cannibal

01:30:03.420 and

01:30:03.620 there

01:30:14.520 the

01:30:14.940 cannibal

01:30:15.240 wouldn't

01:30:15.500 take

01:30:15.680 a

01:30:15.780 bite

01:30:15.960 out

01:30:16.140 of

01:30:16.240 you

01:30:16.360 and

01:30:16.480 they

01:30:16.900 actually

01:30:17.220 took

01:30:17.620 this

01:30:17.800 rather

01:30:18.040 seriously

01:30:18.560 so

01:30:18.920 you

01:30:19.540 should

01:30:19.740 have

01:30:19.980 your

01:30:20.160 cedar

01:30:20.500 head

01:30:20.740 dress

01:30:20.980 on

01:30:21.260 and

01:30:21.640 so

01:30:21.760 he's

01:30:21.960 looking

01:30:22.220 around

01:30:22.440 the

01:30:22.600 crowd

01:30:22.840 and

01:30:22.980 there's

01:30:23.120 like

01:30:23.280 400

01:30:23.600 people

01:30:23.960 in

01:30:24.140 this

01:30:24.280 place

01:30:24.560 and

01:30:24.720 he

01:30:25.480 could

01:30:25.640 really

01:30:25.840 act

01:30:26.160 too

01:30:26.380 and

01:30:26.500 so

01:30:26.620 he's

01:30:26.820 doing

01:30:27.000 this

01:30:27.180 wild

01:30:27.460 man

01:30:27.700 dance

01:30:28.040 and

01:30:28.220 then

01:30:28.620 all

01:30:28.740 the

01:30:28.840 women

01:30:29.020 stood

01:30:29.380 up

01:30:29.660 and

01:30:30.000 started

01:30:30.280 to

01:30:30.680 kind

01:30:31.660 of

01:30:31.780 dance

01:30:32.600 in

01:30:32.800 place

01:30:33.140 and

01:30:33.340 sing

01:30:33.700 and

01:30:44.520 out

01:30:45.440 on

01:30:45.560 the

01:30:45.680 island

01:30:45.880 there

01:30:46.160 and

01:30:46.580 it

01:30:46.640 was

01:30:46.740 very

01:30:46.940 interesting

01:30:47.320 to

01:30:47.500 see

01:30:47.700 that

01:30:47.900 dramatization

01:30:48.800 of

01:30:49.020 the

01:30:49.140 domestication

01:30:49.940 of

01:30:50.140 man

01:30:50.940 by

01:30:51.180 women

01:30:51.600 laid

01:30:52.400 out

01:30:52.560 in

01:30:52.680 that

01:30:52.860 dance

01:30:53.300 in

01:30:53.440 that

01:30:53.620 way

01:30:53.900 but

01:30:54.540 it

01:30:54.860 was

01:30:54.960 also

01:30:55.200 interesting

01:30:55.700 in

01:30:56.140 relationship

01:30:56.580 to

01:30:56.820 the

01:30:56.980 shamanic

01:30:57.480 tradition

01:30:57.900 because

01:30:58.220 he

01:30:58.380 came

01:30:58.600 in

01:30:58.740 as

01:30:58.900 a

01:30:59.020 wild

01:30:59.260 man

01:30:59.520 right

01:30:59.720 and

01:30:59.820 he

01:30:59.940 had

01:31:00.040 to

01:31:00.140 be

01:31:00.560 re

01:31:01.060 civilized

01:31:02.400 in

01:31:02.560 some

01:31:02.800 sense

01:31:03.100 and

01:31:03.280 brought

01:31:03.520 back

01:31:03.840 down

01:31:04.080 to

01:31:04.240 earth

01:31:04.500 so

01:31:05.780 but

01:31:07.040 by

01:31:07.280 whatever

01:31:07.580 method

01:31:07.940 he

01:31:08.280 may

01:31:08.420 have

01:31:08.540 been

01:31:08.680 designated

01:31:09.140 a

01:31:09.380 shaman

01:31:09.640 is

01:31:09.840 recognized

01:31:10.340 as

01:31:10.600 such

01:31:10.880 only

01:31:11.480 after

01:31:11.860 having

01:31:12.240 received

01:31:12.660 two

01:31:12.920 methods

01:31:13.300 of

01:31:13.460 instruction

01:31:13.900 the

01:31:14.340 first

01:31:14.580 is

01:31:14.720 ecstatic

01:31:15.260 dreams

01:31:16.100 trances

01:31:16.620 visions

01:31:17.140 the

01:31:17.960 other

01:31:18.100 thing

01:31:18.380 that

01:31:18.520 this

01:31:18.700 guy

01:31:18.880 told

01:31:19.160 me

01:31:19.380 and

01:31:19.720 I

01:31:20.520 have

01:31:20.680 no

01:31:20.900 reason

01:31:21.480 to

01:31:21.660 doubt

01:31:21.860 him

01:31:22.080 he's

01:31:23.780 also

01:31:24.080 not

01:31:24.460 a

01:31:24.580 literate

01:31:24.900 person

01:31:25.280 and

01:31:26.280 so

01:31:26.400 has

01:31:26.560 a

01:31:26.660 great

01:31:26.840 memory

01:31:27.180 he

01:31:27.740 does

01:31:27.960 carving

01:31:28.540 traditional

01:31:29.260 carving

01:31:29.820 and

01:31:30.000 he's

01:31:30.140 very

01:31:30.300 good

01:31:30.480 at

01:31:30.620 it

01:31:30.720 he

01:31:30.860 carved

01:31:31.160 a

01:31:31.300 53

01:31:31.660 foot

01:31:31.960 totem

01:31:32.260 pole

01:31:32.420 that's

01:31:32.640 now

01:31:32.800 in

01:31:32.920 front

01:31:33.080 of

01:31:33.160 the

01:31:33.280 museum

01:31:34.280 of

01:31:34.560 art

01:31:34.800 in

01:31:35.540 downtown

01:31:36.160 Montreal

01:31:36.660 so

01:31:37.420 if

01:31:37.540 you

01:31:37.620 ever

01:31:37.740 go

01:31:37.920 there

01:31:38.080 you

01:31:38.220 can

01:31:38.360 go

01:31:38.520 see

01:31:38.720 it

01:31:38.900 I

01:31:39.480 won't

01:31:39.660 be

01:31:39.780 there

01:31:39.960 forever

01:31:40.260 but

01:31:40.540 it's

01:31:40.760 there

01:31:40.920 right

01:31:41.120 now

01:31:41.400 and

01:31:42.640 he

01:31:43.560 was

01:31:43.720 taught

01:31:43.960 to

01:31:44.120 carve

01:31:44.320 by

01:31:44.500 his

01:31:44.660 grandparents

01:31:45.120 and

01:31:45.420 he

01:31:45.540 said

01:31:45.900 that

01:31:46.700 he

01:31:47.640 dreamed

01:31:48.100 in

01:31:48.400 you

01:31:48.840 know

01:31:48.960 you

01:31:49.120 know

01:31:49.240 what

01:31:49.380 the

01:31:49.520 Haida

01:31:49.760 images

01:31:50.240 look

01:31:50.500 like

01:31:50.700 so

01:31:50.860 the

01:31:51.000 the

01:31:51.740 same

01:31:53.280 sort

01:31:53.520 of

01:31:53.600 imagery

01:31:53.880 he

01:31:54.420 told

01:31:54.660 me

01:31:54.800 that

01:31:54.960 he

01:31:55.080 dreamed

01:31:55.440 in

01:31:55.600 those

01:31:55.820 images

01:31:56.200 so

01:31:57.080 when

01:31:57.360 he

01:31:57.480 dreams

01:31:57.760 that's

01:31:58.220 the

01:31:58.780 form

01:31:59.080 that

01:31:59.280 the

01:31:59.720 things

01:32:00.420 he

01:32:00.540 dreams

01:32:00.760 about

01:32:01.000 takes

01:32:01.440 and

01:32:01.680 he

01:32:02.100 also

01:32:02.320 said

01:32:02.560 that

01:32:02.700 he

01:32:02.900 would

01:32:03.120 talk

01:32:03.360 to

01:32:03.500 his

01:32:03.620 grandparents

01:32:04.120 in

01:32:04.380 his

01:32:04.500 dreams

01:32:04.700 so

01:32:04.880 if

01:32:05.000 he

01:32:05.060 was

01:32:05.160 working

01:32:05.420 on

01:32:05.580 a

01:32:05.700 piece

01:32:05.880 of

01:32:06.020 wood

01:32:06.240 and

01:32:06.380 trying

01:32:06.580 to

01:32:06.700 figure

01:32:06.900 out

01:32:07.140 how

01:32:07.560 to

01:32:07.700 carve

01:32:07.960 it

01:32:08.140 and

01:32:08.600 he

01:32:08.720 ran

01:32:08.940 into

01:32:09.120 a

01:32:09.240 particularly

01:32:09.640 difficult

01:32:10.080 problem

01:32:10.520 he

01:32:10.900 dream

01:32:11.240 and

01:32:11.380 he

01:32:11.740 have

01:32:11.920 a

01:32:12.020 conversation

01:32:12.500 with

01:32:12.680 his

01:32:12.820 grandparents

01:32:13.200 and

01:32:13.460 they

01:32:13.560 help

01:32:13.780 him

01:32:13.920 figure

01:32:14.100 out

01:32:14.240 how

01:32:14.340 to

01:32:14.460 solve

01:32:14.700 the

01:32:14.820 problem

01:32:15.120 and

01:32:15.260 then

01:32:15.360 he

01:32:15.440 wake

01:32:15.640 up

01:32:15.800 and

01:32:15.900 he

01:32:15.980 could

01:32:16.120 go

01:32:16.260 carve

01:32:16.560 the

01:32:16.720 and

01:32:17.180 the

01:32:17.280 thing

01:32:17.460 is

01:32:17.620 he

01:32:17.720 told

01:32:17.960 me

01:32:18.100 these

01:32:18.320 things

01:32:18.660 sort

01:32:19.580 of

01:32:19.660 matter

01:32:19.880 of factly

01:32:20.580 right

01:32:20.820 like

01:32:21.280 you know

01:32:21.880 you know

01:32:22.080 what I

01:32:22.280 mean

01:32:22.520 it

01:32:22.680 wasn't

01:32:23.400 like

01:32:23.660 he

01:32:24.600 was

01:32:24.740 telling

01:32:25.060 me

01:32:25.200 these

01:32:25.420 weird

01:32:25.740 things

01:32:26.100 that

01:32:26.280 happened

01:32:26.640 to

01:32:26.840 him

01:32:26.980 although

01:32:27.160 he

01:32:27.320 was

01:32:27.460 doing

01:32:27.660 that

01:32:27.820 to

01:32:27.940 some

01:32:28.120 degree

01:32:28.320 I

01:32:28.780 asked

01:32:29.120 him

01:32:41.740 one

01:32:42.780 of

01:32:42.860 them

01:32:42.940 is

01:32:43.040 quite

01:32:43.280 interesting

01:32:43.800 well

01:32:44.220 the

01:32:44.760 two

01:32:44.960 make

01:32:45.220 a

01:32:45.380 panel

01:32:45.760 and

01:32:46.660 they're

01:32:47.920 an

01:32:48.120 underwater

01:32:48.600 scene

01:32:49.020 and

01:32:49.200 under

01:32:49.440 the

01:32:49.580 water

01:32:49.760 there's

01:32:50.000 a

01:32:50.100 bunch

01:32:50.280 of

01:32:50.600 you

01:32:51.180 know

01:32:51.280 mythical

01:32:51.720 monsters

01:32:52.620 some

01:32:52.940 of

01:32:53.020 them

01:32:53.120 are

01:32:53.260 killer

01:32:53.620 whales

01:32:53.920 and

01:32:54.200 I

01:32:54.400 think

01:32:54.540 there's

01:32:54.700 an

01:32:54.800 octopus

01:32:55.080 down

01:32:55.440 there

01:32:55.660 carved

01:32:56.340 in

01:32:56.500 this

01:32:56.660 particular

01:32:57.040 style

01:32:57.380 and

01:32:57.580 he

01:32:58.200 said

01:32:58.480 that

01:32:58.720 the

01:32:59.000 other

01:32:59.180 thing

01:32:59.360 that

01:32:59.500 happens

01:32:59.740 to

01:32:59.860 him

01:32:59.920 when

01:33:00.020 he

01:33:00.100 dreams

01:33:00.360 is

01:33:00.520 he

01:33:00.620 goes

01:33:00.800 down

01:33:01.100 to

01:33:01.260 the

01:33:01.380 bottom

01:33:01.620 of

01:33:01.780 the

01:33:01.900 water

01:33:02.220 where

01:33:11.740 that

01:33:12.020 isn't

01:33:12.460 hyper

01:33:12.980 civilized

01:33:13.720 let's

01:33:14.020 say

01:33:14.260 hyper

01:33:15.640 literate

01:33:16.200 like

01:33:16.520 our

01:33:17.000 minds

01:33:17.280 are

01:33:17.440 because

01:33:17.600 we're

01:33:17.760 so

01:33:18.020 bombarded

01:33:18.580 by

01:33:18.780 external

01:33:19.180 stimuli

01:33:19.700 we have

01:33:20.400 no

01:33:20.540 idea

01:33:20.840 what

01:33:21.100 the

01:33:21.600 natural

01:33:22.000 mind

01:33:22.340 is

01:33:22.500 like

01:33:22.860 really

01:33:23.260 and

01:33:23.560 so

01:33:24.120 it

01:33:24.340 was

01:33:24.460 quite

01:33:24.680 interesting

01:33:25.120 to

01:33:25.440 listen

01:33:27.280 to

01:33:27.480 that

01:33:27.720 and

01:33:27.920 also

01:33:28.480 to

01:33:28.660 see

01:33:28.780 the

01:33:28.920 consequences

01:33:29.400 because

01:33:29.640 he's

01:33:30.660 quite

01:33:30.840 a

01:33:30.940 great

01:33:31.100 carver

01:33:31.500 so

01:33:32.660 the

01:33:33.380 first

01:33:33.620 is

01:33:33.760 ecstatic

01:33:34.280 dreams

01:33:34.820 trances

01:33:35.240 visions

01:33:35.640 the

01:33:35.860 second

01:33:36.120 is

01:33:36.300 traditional

01:33:36.800 shamanic

01:33:37.580 techniques

01:33:38.080 names

01:33:38.460 and

01:33:38.680 functions

01:33:38.980 of

01:33:39.160 the

01:33:39.280 spirits

01:33:39.660 mythology

01:33:40.500 and

01:33:40.760 genealogy

01:33:41.320 of

01:33:41.480 the

01:33:41.580 clan

01:33:41.920 a

01:33:42.320 secret

01:33:42.560 language

01:33:43.020 this

01:33:43.560 twofold

01:33:44.000 teaching

01:33:44.440 imparted

01:33:44.900 by

01:33:45.020 the

01:33:45.200 spirits

01:33:45.540 and

01:33:45.680 the

01:33:45.780 old

01:33:45.920 master

01:33:46.220 shamans

01:33:46.640 constitutes

01:33:47.200 initiation

01:33:47.820 well

01:33:48.500 so

01:33:48.800 you know

01:33:49.660 modern

01:33:50.060 people

01:33:50.360 have a

01:33:50.700 problem

01:33:50.960 with

01:33:51.140 that

01:33:51.300 because

01:33:51.520 we

01:33:51.680 don't

01:33:51.820 really

01:33:51.980 get

01:33:52.160 initiated

01:33:52.600 but

01:33:52.820 I

01:33:53.360 would

01:33:53.520 say

01:33:53.800 that

01:33:57.320 you

01:33:59.780 know

01:33:59.920 let's

01:34:00.200 say

01:34:00.340 that

01:34:00.540 we're

01:34:00.760 each

01:34:00.920 on

01:34:01.060 a

01:34:01.180 quest

01:34:01.500 of

01:34:02.280 some

01:34:02.480 sort

01:34:02.760 you

01:34:03.180 wouldn't

01:34:03.340 be

01:34:03.500 here

01:34:03.760 I

01:34:03.940 don't

01:34:04.100 think

01:34:04.320 if

01:34:04.480 you

01:34:04.800 weren't

01:34:05.140 because

01:34:05.520 why

01:34:05.840 else

01:34:06.040 would

01:34:06.180 you

01:34:06.280 be

01:34:06.460 here

01:34:06.720 and

01:34:08.440 so

01:34:08.620 you're

01:34:08.840 on

01:34:08.960 a

01:34:09.060 quest

01:34:09.360 of

01:34:09.500 some

01:34:09.700 sort

01:34:10.000 to

01:34:10.260 figure

01:34:10.960 out

01:34:11.200 to

01:34:11.760 struggle

01:34:12.140 with

01:34:12.420 the

01:34:12.560 meaning

01:34:12.760 of

01:34:12.960 life

01:34:13.260 let's

01:34:13.580 say

01:34:13.780 and

01:34:14.940 you

01:34:15.820 don't

01:34:15.960 want

01:34:16.080 to

01:34:16.160 do

01:34:16.260 that

01:34:16.440 alone

01:34:16.740 because

01:34:17.060 you

01:34:17.380 only

01:34:17.540 last

01:34:17.880 like

01:34:18.100 70

01:34:18.460 years

01:34:18.760 and

01:34:18.920 good

01:34:19.060 luck

01:34:19.260 figuring

01:34:19.560 it

01:34:19.680 out

01:34:19.800 on

01:34:19.940 your

01:34:20.080 own

01:34:20.760 it's

01:34:20.980 just

01:34:21.140 not

01:34:21.380 going

01:34:21.520 to

01:34:21.600 happen

01:34:21.800 it's

01:34:22.000 too

01:34:22.180 complicated

01:34:22.660 and

01:34:23.460 you'll

01:34:23.620 be

01:34:23.720 too

01:34:23.900 isolated

01:34:24.400 right

01:34:24.840 if

01:34:25.220 it's

01:34:25.520 just

01:34:25.740 you

01:34:26.100 that's

01:34:26.820 insanity

01:34:27.300 that's

01:34:27.840 no one

01:34:28.260 can

01:34:28.420 stand

01:34:28.700 that

01:34:28.960 and

01:34:29.460 so

01:34:29.580 you

01:34:29.700 hope

01:34:29.940 that

01:34:30.120 other

01:34:30.280 people

01:34:30.540 have

01:34:30.740 things

01:34:31.060 to

01:34:31.240 tell

01:34:31.480 you

01:34:31.700 and

01:34:31.880 that

01:34:32.040 your

01:34:32.340 culture

01:34:32.660 has

01:34:32.880 something

01:34:33.140 to

01:34:33.320 tell

01:34:33.520 you

01:34:33.680 you

01:34:33.780 know

01:34:33.900 so

01:34:34.080 you're

01:34:34.240 on

01:34:34.380 a

01:34:34.480 quest

01:34:34.860 maybe

01:34:35.600 not

01:34:35.860 with

01:34:36.080 the

01:34:36.240 same

01:34:36.460 intensity

01:34:36.960 as

01:34:37.500 a

01:34:37.640 shamanic

01:34:38.420 initiate

01:34:38.740 but

01:34:39.060 you

01:34:39.340 know

01:34:39.420 let's

01:34:39.640 give

01:34:39.780 you

01:34:39.880 some

01:34:40.060 credit

01:34:40.380 and

01:34:41.000 then

01:34:41.200 you're

01:34:42.000 also

01:34:42.380 trying

01:34:43.220 to

01:34:43.380 understand

01:34:43.820 the

01:34:44.020 wisdom

01:34:44.280 of

01:34:44.480 the

01:34:44.620 past

01:34:45.080 and

01:34:45.760 that's

01:34:46.080 the

01:34:46.240 second

01:34:46.480 part

01:34:46.800 of

01:34:46.900 this

01:34:47.080 it's

01:34:47.240 like

01:34:47.460 okay

01:34:47.700 well

01:34:47.900 you're

01:34:48.080 a

01:34:48.160 human

01:34:48.360 being

01:34:48.620 and

01:34:48.760 human

01:34:48.960 beings

01:34:49.220 have

01:34:49.340 been

01:34:49.460 telling

01:34:49.680 stories

01:34:50.020 for

01:34:50.200 a

01:34:50.300 long

01:34:50.460 period

01:34:50.740 of

01:34:50.860 time

01:34:51.120 trying

01:34:51.540 to

01:34:51.680 figure

01:34:51.840 out

01:34:51.980 what's

01:34:52.200 going

01:34:52.440 on

01:34:52.760 trying

01:34:53.180 to

01:34:53.300 figure

01:34:53.440 out

01:34:53.540 how

01:34:53.640 to

01:34:53.740 orient

01:34:54.020 themselves

01:34:54.400 in

01:34:54.560 the

01:34:54.640 world

01:34:54.860 and

01:34:55.020 so

01:34:55.240 you

01:34:55.880 know

01:34:56.000 partly

01:34:56.580 what

01:34:56.780 you're

01:34:56.920 doing

01:34:57.120 here

01:34:57.380 is

01:34:57.580 exactly

01:34:58.000 what

01:34:58.200 the

01:34:58.340 shamanic

01:34:58.760 initiate

01:34:59.160 does

01:34:59.460 in

01:34:59.720 the

01:34:59.840 second

01:35:00.100 part

01:35:00.360 of

01:35:00.460 the

01:35:00.560 process

01:35:00.920 which

01:35:01.180 is

01:35:01.340 to

01:35:01.620 expose

01:35:02.780 yourself

01:35:03.360 to

01:35:03.540 the

01:35:03.660 degree

01:35:03.980 that

01:35:04.200 you

01:35:17.080 initiation

01:35:17.320 so

01:35:18.720 that's

01:35:19.260 the

01:35:19.380 rebirth

01:35:19.740 right

01:35:20.060 that's

01:35:20.940 what

01:35:21.260 initiation

01:35:22.100 is

01:35:22.440 it's

01:35:22.660 being

01:35:23.280 born

01:35:23.540 again

01:35:23.920 and

01:35:24.980 that's

01:35:25.660 a

01:35:25.780 birth

01:35:26.220 of

01:35:26.360 the

01:35:26.520 spirit

01:35:26.860 rather

01:35:27.180 than

01:35:27.360 of

01:35:27.460 the

01:35:27.580 body

01:35:27.900 it's

01:35:28.140 something

01:35:28.340 like

01:35:28.580 that

01:35:28.840 and

01:35:28.980 so

01:35:29.180 it's

01:35:29.400 the

01:35:29.640 rebirth

01:35:30.080 of

01:35:30.240 an

01:35:30.360 integrated

01:35:30.800 psyche

01:35:31.280 that's

01:35:31.620 one

01:35:31.780 way

01:35:31.960 of

01:35:32.080 thinking

01:35:32.300 about

01:35:32.580 it

01:35:32.700 a

01:35:33.160 psyche

01:35:33.460 that's

01:35:34.700 individual

01:35:35.440 but

01:35:35.920 also

01:35:36.160 grounded

01:35:36.660 in

01:35:37.000 common

01:35:38.020 humanity

01:35:38.540 in

01:35:38.700 the

01:35:38.840 wisdom

01:35:39.100 of

01:35:39.320 common

01:35:39.640 humanity

01:35:40.140 and

01:35:40.860 that

01:35:41.020 makes

01:35:41.260 you

01:35:41.420 strong

01:35:41.860 or

01:35:42.540 at

01:35:42.640 least

01:35:42.760 it

01:35:42.880 makes

01:35:43.040 you

01:35:43.180 stronger

01:35:43.660 because

01:35:44.560 there's

01:35:44.720 a

01:35:44.840 limit

01:35:45.020 to

01:35:45.200 your

01:35:45.340 strength

01:35:45.740 but

01:35:46.000 God

01:35:46.740 only

01:35:46.980 knows

01:35:47.260 to

01:35:47.420 some

01:35:47.600 degree

01:35:47.880 what

01:35:48.080 that

01:35:48.280 limit

01:35:48.500 is

01:35:48.740 you

01:35:48.860 know

01:35:48.980 people

01:35:49.240 can

01:35:49.440 be

01:35:49.600 unbelievably

01:35:50.080 tough

01:35:50.580 unbelievably

01:35:51.680 tough

01:35:52.200 and

01:35:53.180 I

01:35:53.460 think

01:35:53.680 it's

01:35:53.840 even

01:35:54.020 the

01:35:54.180 more

01:35:54.360 admirable

01:35:54.820 for

01:35:55.380 human

01:35:55.640 beings

01:35:55.920 to

01:35:56.160 be

01:35:56.300 tough

01:35:56.540 because

01:35:56.880 we're

01:35:57.500 so

01:35:57.800 conscious

01:35:58.240 of

01:35:58.440 how

01:35:58.580 we

01:35:58.740 can

01:35:58.860 be

01:35:59.020 hurt

01:35:59.300 and

01:35:59.940 we're

01:36:00.100 so

01:36:00.360 conscious

01:36:00.800 of

01:36:01.060 what

01:36:01.500 that

01:36:01.840 hurt

01:36:02.120 can

01:36:02.400 lead

01:36:02.820 to

01:36:03.000 you

01:36:03.220 know

01:36:03.340 you

01:36:04.000 can

01:36:04.120 have

01:36:04.300 your

01:36:04.420 family

01:36:04.720 taken

01:36:05.060 away

01:36:05.280 from

01:36:05.480 you

01:36:05.680 and

01:36:06.160 you

01:36:06.280 can

01:36:06.400 be

01:36:06.540 destroyed

01:36:07.040 and

01:36:07.360 the

01:36:07.620 fact

01:36:07.840 that

01:36:08.000 you

01:36:08.160 can

01:36:08.320 be

01:36:08.480 courageous

01:36:08.880 in

01:36:09.080 the

01:36:09.200 face

01:36:09.400 of

01:36:09.520 that

01:36:09.680 at

01:36:09.900 all

01:36:10.140 is

01:36:10.340 something

01:36:10.620 that

01:36:10.800 is

01:36:10.940 absolutely

01:36:11.680 unbelievable

01:36:12.440 right

01:36:13.220 and

01:36:13.420 people

01:36:13.680 deserve

01:36:14.020 a lot

01:36:14.300 more

01:36:14.480 credit

01:36:14.800 I

01:36:15.060 think

01:36:15.320 than

01:36:15.880 people

01:36:16.460 give

01:36:16.780 themselves

01:36:17.300 because

01:36:17.940 the

01:36:18.720 fact

01:36:18.960 that

01:36:19.120 we

01:36:19.280 can

01:36:19.480 be

01:36:19.900 honorable

01:36:20.280 under

01:36:20.660 conditions

01:36:21.380 of

01:36:22.220 life

01:36:22.560 and

01:36:22.740 death

01:36:23.060 right

01:36:24.080 of

01:36:24.200 suffering

01:36:24.660 that's

01:36:25.100 that's

01:36:25.620 a testament

01:36:26.080 to the

01:36:26.500 human

01:36:26.800 spirit

01:36:27.400 and

01:36:28.240 there's

01:36:28.920 a

01:36:29.120 profound

01:36:29.900 anti-human

01:36:30.840 ethos

01:36:32.540 I think

01:36:32.860 that

01:36:33.060 pervades

01:36:33.440 our

01:36:33.620 culture

01:36:34.000 you

01:36:34.160 know

01:36:34.260 that

01:36:34.440 considers

01:36:34.940 human

01:36:35.560 beings

01:36:35.860 cancers

01:36:36.360 on the

01:36:36.780 planet

01:36:37.100 something

01:36:37.480 like

01:36:37.740 that

01:36:38.020 you

01:36:38.180 know

01:36:38.340 and

01:36:38.880 that

01:36:39.000 there

01:36:39.120 should

01:36:39.260 be

01:36:39.400 less

01:36:39.680 of

01:36:39.860 us

01:36:40.060 it's

01:36:40.240 the

01:36:40.400 same

01:36:40.640 spirit

01:36:41.040 that

01:36:41.300 motivated

01:36:42.200 the

01:36:42.380 guy

01:36:42.560 who

01:36:42.740 wrote

01:36:42.920 the

01:36:43.060 book

01:36:43.260 about

01:36:43.560 it

01:36:44.320 better

01:36:44.560 to

01:36:45.140 have

01:36:45.300 never

01:36:45.500 been

01:36:45.820 and

01:36:45.980 it's

01:36:46.080 like

01:36:46.240 I

01:36:46.600 don't

01:36:46.780 see

01:36:46.980 it

01:36:47.100 that

01:36:47.300 way

01:36:47.560 you

01:36:47.700 know

01:36:47.800 I

01:36:47.920 mean

01:36:48.080 I

01:36:48.600 think

01:36:48.780 people

01:36:49.140 do

01:36:49.680 pretty

01:36:49.900 well

01:36:50.180 for

01:36:50.420 you

01:36:51.740 know

01:36:51.840 for

01:36:52.040 having

01:36:52.320 their

01:36:52.540 leg

01:36:52.980 caught

01:36:53.260 in a

01:36:53.440 bear

01:36:53.620 trap

01:36:53.980 and

01:36:54.120 their

01:36:54.240 head

01:36:54.420 caught

01:36:54.660 in

01:36:54.760 a

01:36:54.840 vise

01:36:55.100 they're

01:36:55.320 actually

01:36:55.580 doing

01:36:55.820 pretty

01:36:56.040 well

01:36:56.320 because

01:36:56.680 life

01:36:57.320 is

01:36:57.500 really

01:36:57.780 hard

01:36:58.140 and

01:36:58.400 the

01:36:58.540 fact

01:36:58.800 that

01:36:58.980 we're

01:36:59.160 not

01:36:59.460 absolutely

01:37:00.060 brutal

01:37:00.480 and

01:37:00.660 murderous

01:37:01.060 all

01:37:01.220 the

01:37:01.360 time

01:37:01.680 is

01:37:02.220 really

01:37:02.540 something

01:37:03.000 remarkable

01:37:03.640 given

01:37:04.200 what we

01:37:04.820 actually

01:37:05.160 have

01:37:05.400 to

01:37:05.540 contend

01:37:05.860 with

01:37:06.020 that

01:37:06.140 we

01:37:06.260 can

01:37:06.400 go

01:37:06.560 out

01:37:06.720 of

01:37:06.820 our

01:37:06.960 way

01:37:07.140 to

01:37:07.260 be

01:37:07.440 honest

01:37:08.100 and

01:37:08.340 generous

01:37:08.800 and

01:37:09.380 altruistic

01:37:10.160 and

01:37:10.700 to

01:37:10.840 care

01:37:11.040 for

01:37:11.240 each

01:37:11.420 other

01:37:11.680 under

01:37:12.280 unbelievably

01:37:13.000 dire

01:37:22.320 people

01:37:22.640 who

01:37:22.780 acted

01:37:23.060 abysmally

01:37:23.780 but

01:37:24.320 also

01:37:24.640 people

01:37:25.000 who

01:37:25.260 under

01:37:25.780 the

01:37:25.960 worst

01:37:26.220 threats

01:37:26.580 imaginable

01:37:27.160 never

01:37:27.800 sacrificed

01:37:28.840 their

01:37:29.100 character

01:37:29.540 you know

01:37:30.280 and

01:37:30.400 reading

01:37:30.620 about

01:37:30.900 that

01:37:31.140 is

01:37:31.280 really

01:37:31.640 well

01:37:34.660 it

01:37:34.780 really

01:37:34.940 makes

01:37:35.200 you

01:37:35.340 wonder

01:37:35.620 that's

01:37:36.340 what

01:37:36.800 it

01:37:36.920 does

01:37:37.180 the

01:37:38.280 future

01:37:38.580 shamans

01:37:39.020 among

01:37:39.240 the

01:37:39.400 Tungus

01:37:39.820 as they

01:37:40.440 approach

01:37:40.720 maturity

01:37:41.160 go

01:37:41.440 through

01:37:41.660 a

01:37:41.820 hysterical

01:37:42.440 or

01:37:42.600 historoid

01:37:43.160 crisis

01:37:43.540 but

01:37:43.780 sometimes

01:37:44.100 their

01:37:44.260 vocation

01:37:44.720 manifests

01:37:45.220 itself

01:37:45.580 at

01:37:45.720 an

01:37:45.840 earlier

01:37:46.100 age

01:37:46.460 the

01:37:46.880 boy

01:37:47.060 runs

01:37:47.340 away

01:37:47.520 into

01:37:47.660 the

01:37:47.760 mountains

01:37:48.060 and

01:37:48.220 remains

01:37:48.520 there

01:37:48.700 for

01:37:48.840 a

01:37:48.960 week

01:37:49.140 or

01:37:49.280 more

01:37:49.500 feeding

01:37:50.000 on

01:37:50.200 animals

01:37:50.580 which

01:37:50.800 he

01:37:50.920 tears

01:37:51.140 to

01:37:51.320 pieces

01:37:51.560 with

01:37:51.800 his

01:37:51.980 teeth

01:37:52.320 he

01:37:54.260 returns

01:37:54.600 to

01:37:54.760 the

01:37:54.880 village

01:37:55.180 filthy

01:37:55.620 blood

01:37:55.960 stained

01:37:56.360 and

01:37:56.540 it's

01:37:56.700 only

01:37:56.900 after

01:37:57.160 ten

01:37:57.420 or more

01:37:57.660 days

01:37:57.880 that

01:37:58.060 have

01:37:58.200 passed

01:37:58.520 that

01:37:58.660 he

01:37:58.760 begins

01:37:59.080 to

01:37:59.320 babble

01:37:59.640 incoherent

01:38:00.280 words

01:38:00.720 the

01:38:02.120 strange

01:38:02.420 behavior

01:38:02.900 of

01:38:03.100 future

01:38:03.360 shamans

01:38:03.760 has

01:38:03.900 not

01:38:04.100 failed

01:38:04.360 to

01:38:04.520 attract

01:38:04.880 the

01:38:05.040 attention

01:38:05.360 of

01:38:05.560 scholars

01:38:05.920 and

01:38:06.420 from

01:38:06.560 the

01:38:06.700 middle

01:38:06.880 of

01:38:07.020 the

01:38:07.120 past

01:38:07.360 century

01:38:07.720 several

01:38:08.080 attempts

01:38:08.460 have

01:38:08.600 been

01:38:08.720 made

01:38:08.920 to

01:38:09.060 explain

01:38:09.460 the

01:38:09.620 phenomena

01:38:09.980 as

01:38:10.460 a

01:38:10.560 mental

01:38:10.740 disorder

01:38:11.140 but

01:38:11.540 the

01:38:11.640 problem

01:38:11.920 was

01:38:12.080 wrongly

01:38:12.460 put

01:38:12.840 for

01:38:13.620 on

01:38:13.700 the

01:38:13.780 one

01:38:13.940 hand

01:38:14.160 it

01:38:14.280 is

01:38:14.400 not

01:38:14.620 true

01:38:14.940 that

01:38:15.160 shamans

01:38:15.560 always

01:38:15.900 are

01:38:16.180 or

01:38:16.380 always

01:38:16.600 have

01:38:16.820 to

01:38:16.960 be

01:38:17.180 neuropathic

01:38:18.900 mentally

01:38:20.180 deranged

01:38:20.700 on

01:38:21.320 the

01:38:21.420 other

01:38:21.580 hand

01:38:21.880 and

01:38:22.260 this

01:38:22.420 is

01:38:22.520 the

01:38:22.640 critical

01:38:22.960 issue

01:38:23.320 those

01:38:23.860 among

01:38:24.140 them

01:38:24.280 who

01:38:24.400 had

01:38:24.500 been

01:38:24.640 ill

01:38:24.820 become

01:38:25.120 shamans

01:38:25.520 precisely

01:38:25.960 because

01:38:26.280 they

01:38:26.460 had

01:38:26.580 succeeded

01:38:26.940 in

01:38:27.180 becoming

01:38:27.480 cured

01:38:27.880 so

01:38:28.840 it

01:38:29.020 was

01:38:29.200 it's

01:38:29.660 not

01:38:29.820 the

01:38:29.960 descent

01:38:30.460 into

01:38:30.760 this

01:38:31.020 strange

01:38:31.580 subterranean

01:38:33.000 psychological

01:38:33.640 state

01:38:34.180 that

01:38:34.600 constitutes

01:38:35.340 the

01:38:36.260 transformation

01:38:37.140 that makes

01:38:37.660 the

01:38:37.820 shaman

01:38:38.060 but

01:38:38.260 it's

01:38:38.440 the

01:38:38.680 emergence

01:38:39.380 back

01:38:39.720 out

01:38:39.880 of

01:38:39.960 that

01:38:40.100 and

01:38:40.180 that's

01:38:40.380 a

01:38:40.500 journey

01:38:40.680 to

01:38:40.820 the

01:38:40.940 underworld

01:38:41.260 and

01:38:41.500 a

01:38:42.120 rebirth

01:38:42.400 right

01:38:42.860 and

01:38:43.080 so

01:38:43.300 and

01:38:43.780 there's

01:38:44.180 this

01:38:44.320 great

01:38:44.580 book

01:38:44.920 this

01:38:45.440 is

01:38:45.560 a

01:38:45.660 great

01:38:45.840 book

01:38:46.120 by a

01:38:47.160 guy

01:38:47.300 named

01:38:47.480 Henry

01:38:47.860 Ellenberg

01:38:48.440 and

01:38:49.160 he

01:38:49.260 was

01:38:49.400 an

01:38:49.520 existential

01:38:50.040 psychoanalyst

01:38:51.560 and

01:38:51.780 philosopher

01:38:52.160 and

01:38:52.400 he

01:38:52.520 wrote

01:38:52.760 a

01:38:53.060 book

01:38:53.300 called

01:38:53.520 The

01:38:53.620 Discovery

01:38:53.980 of

01:38:54.160 the

01:38:54.260 Unconscious

01:38:54.760 which

01:38:55.060 I

01:38:55.180 would

01:38:55.300 highly

01:38:55.620 recommend

01:39:01.580 tradition

01:39:02.260 it's

01:39:04.040 the

01:39:04.180 best

01:39:04.440 introduction

01:39:04.900 there

01:39:05.160 is

01:39:05.500 and

01:39:05.920 he

01:39:06.360 discusses

01:39:07.080 Adler

01:39:07.860 and

01:39:08.120 Jung

01:39:08.380 and

01:39:08.660 Freud

01:39:08.940 and

01:39:09.160 does

01:39:09.380 a

01:39:09.480 very

01:39:09.640 credible

01:39:10.000 job

01:39:10.300 of

01:39:10.440 all

01:39:10.580 three

01:39:10.780 but

01:39:10.960 also

01:39:11.260 takes

01:39:12.040 the

01:39:12.220 history

01:39:12.580 of

01:39:12.760 psychoanalytic

01:39:13.380 thought

01:39:13.680 back

01:39:14.020 three

01:39:14.280 four

01:39:14.520 hundred

01:39:14.740 years

01:39:15.040 before

01:39:15.400 Freud

01:39:15.740 and

01:39:16.380 so

01:39:16.640 it's

01:39:16.940 very

01:39:17.440 engaging

01:39:18.020 reading

01:39:18.460 and

01:39:18.760 very

01:39:20.580 interesting

01:39:21.120 and

01:39:21.380 one

01:39:21.740 of

01:39:21.840 the

01:39:21.940 things

01:39:22.160 Ellenberg

01:39:22.580 points

01:39:23.220 out

01:39:23.440 quite

01:39:23.900 clearly

01:39:24.900 is

01:39:25.220 and

01:39:25.660 he

01:39:26.000 associates

01:39:26.440 this

01:39:26.900 to

01:39:27.060 some

01:39:27.240 degree

01:39:27.460 with

01:39:27.640 the

01:39:27.800 shamanic

01:39:28.200 tradition

01:39:28.560 that

01:39:31.580 very

01:39:32.020 intense

01:39:32.680 periods

01:39:33.200 of

01:39:33.380 psychological

01:39:34.040 disturbance

01:39:35.220 let's

01:39:35.720 say

01:39:35.920 and

01:39:36.440 I

01:39:36.600 would

01:39:36.740 say

01:39:36.920 what

01:39:37.120 was

01:39:37.280 happening

01:39:37.660 is

01:39:37.880 that

01:39:38.080 because

01:39:38.760 they

01:39:38.960 were

01:39:39.120 questioning

01:39:39.680 their

01:39:40.100 axioms

01:39:40.760 at

01:39:41.320 the

01:39:41.560 most

01:39:41.780 fundamental

01:39:42.200 level

01:39:42.660 they

01:39:42.840 were

01:39:43.000 deranging

01:39:43.700 their

01:39:44.020 cognitive

01:39:44.480 and

01:39:44.720 perceptual

01:39:45.300 structures

01:39:45.880 right

01:39:46.180 and

01:39:46.360 Jung

01:39:46.820 was

01:39:47.040 also

01:39:47.340 experimenting

01:39:48.000 with

01:39:48.280 imaginative

01:39:48.920 techniques

01:39:49.440 with

01:39:49.660 visionary

01:39:50.100 techniques

01:39:50.680 which

01:39:50.920 he

01:39:51.100 did

01:39:51.820 a

01:39:51.940 lot

01:39:52.220 and

01:39:52.400 there

01:39:52.940 was

01:39:53.040 a

01:39:53.140 period

01:39:53.360 of

01:39:53.480 his

01:39:53.600 life

01:39:53.880 where

01:39:54.180 he

01:39:54.700 was

01:39:54.860 having

01:39:55.240 constant

01:39:56.120 a

01:39:56.600 constant

01:39:57.000 stream

01:39:57.400 of

01:39:57.560 visions

01:39:57.900 which

01:40:01.580 he

01:40:01.700 was

01:40:01.860 still

01:40:02.100 functioning

01:40:02.580 as

01:40:02.800 a

01:40:02.920 psychiatrist

01:40:03.340 and

01:40:03.680 operating

01:40:04.440 normally

01:40:05.120 in the

01:40:05.460 world

01:40:05.760 and

01:40:05.940 so

01:40:06.160 you

01:40:06.720 know

01:40:06.820 people

01:40:07.100 have

01:40:07.420 suggested

01:40:08.180 that

01:40:08.420 what

01:40:08.580 he

01:40:08.700 had

01:40:08.860 was

01:40:09.020 a

01:40:09.180 psychotic

01:40:09.580 break

01:40:09.880 but

01:40:10.060 that's

01:40:10.320 ridiculous

01:40:10.760 because

01:40:11.180 you

01:40:11.360 don't

01:40:11.560 know

01:40:11.720 that's

01:40:12.400 not

01:40:12.600 how

01:40:12.780 it

01:40:12.920 works

01:40:13.260 man

01:40:13.520 if

01:40:13.660 you're

01:40:13.800 having

01:40:13.980 a

01:40:14.100 psychotic

01:40:14.500 break

01:40:14.800 you

01:40:14.980 you're

01:40:15.400 not

01:40:15.500 being

01:40:15.700 an

01:40:15.860 effective

01:40:16.240 psychiatrist

01:40:16.820 those

01:40:17.440 things

01:40:17.640 do

01:40:17.840 not

01:40:18.040 go

01:40:18.220 together

01:40:18.520 especially

01:40:18.900 not

01:40:19.160 for

01:40:19.320 a

01:40:19.440 long

01:40:19.600 period

01:40:19.880 of

01:40:20.020 time

01:40:20.300 and

01:40:20.960 so

01:40:21.100 there

01:40:21.320 there's

01:40:21.780 the

01:40:21.900 possibility

01:40:22.460 of

01:40:22.900 extreme

01:40:23.920 experience

01:40:24.920 without

01:40:25.720 psychos

01:40:27.100 psychopathology

01:40:28.140 and

01:40:28.600 so

01:40:28.840 and

01:40:30.360 Ellenberg

01:40:30.820 he

01:40:31.320 says

01:40:31.840 much

01:40:32.040 the

01:40:32.220 same

01:40:32.380 thing

01:40:32.560 about

01:40:32.780 Freud

01:40:33.140 and

01:40:33.540 about

01:40:33.740 Charles

01:40:34.060 Darwin

01:40:34.420 as

01:40:34.640 well

01:40:34.840 who

01:40:35.060 underwent

01:40:35.460 a

01:40:35.700 terrible

01:40:36.140 period

01:40:36.560 of

01:40:36.800 of

01:40:37.420 of

01:40:38.100 mental

01:40:38.660 confusion

01:40:41.100 I would

01:40:41.780 say

01:40:42.020 as a

01:40:42.340 consequence

01:40:42.700 of

01:40:43.080 formulating

01:40:43.880 his

01:40:44.120 theory

01:40:44.400 of

01:40:44.540 evolution

01:40:44.880 which

01:40:45.100 was

01:40:45.240 really

01:40:45.540 hard

01:40:45.800 on

01:40:45.940 him

01:40:46.080 because

01:40:46.260 he

01:40:46.380 was

01:40:46.540 a

01:40:46.740 die

01:40:47.620 hard

01:40:47.820 christian

01:40:48.320 and

01:40:48.480 he

01:40:48.600 knew

01:40:48.840 what

01:40:49.140 he

01:40:49.720 knew

01:40:50.040 what

01:40:50.420 the

01:40:50.700 implications

01:40:51.240 of

01:40:51.520 his

01:40:51.660 theory

01:40:51.940 were

01:40:52.240 he

01:40:52.500 didn't

01:40:52.680 know

01:40:52.820 what

01:40:52.980 to

01:40:53.100 do

01:40:53.220 about

01:40:53.440 that

01:40:53.760 you

01:40:53.900 know

01:40:54.020 so

01:40:54.260 it

01:40:54.660 was

01:40:54.760 very

01:40:54.980 very

01:40:55.180 hard

01:40:55.440 on

01:40:55.560 him

01:40:55.680 so

01:40:55.820 it's

01:40:56.200 quite

01:40:56.400 common

01:40:56.800 for

01:40:57.000 people

01:40:57.300 of

01:40:57.480 genius

01:40:57.880 to

01:40:58.260 go

01:40:58.840 through

01:40:59.060 an

01:40:59.260 intense

01:40:59.760 crisis

01:41:00.460 psychological

01:41:01.280 crisis

01:41:01.940 but

01:41:02.980 then

01:41:03.260 resolve

01:41:03.820 it

01:41:04.040 and

01:41:04.200 the

01:41:04.340 genius

01:41:04.660 is

01:41:04.880 in

01:41:05.040 the

01:41:05.160 resolution

01:41:05.720 right

01:41:06.080 the

01:41:06.420 precondition

01:41:07.060 for

01:41:07.200 the

01:41:07.360 genius

01:41:07.660 is

01:41:07.880 the

01:41:08.060 dissolution

01:41:08.620 in

01:41:08.860 some

01:41:09.060 sense

01:41:09.420 because

01:41:09.880 you

01:41:09.960 have

01:41:10.140 to

01:41:10.240 be

01:41:10.360 obsessed

01:41:10.800 with

01:41:11.020 the

01:41:11.140 problem

01:41:11.480 it

01:41:11.620 has

01:41:11.760 to

01:41:11.900 grip

01:41:12.180 you

01:41:12.340 completely

01:41:12.840 before

01:41:13.460 you're

01:41:13.680 going

01:41:13.800 to

01:41:13.920 concentrate

01:41:14.380 on

01:41:14.740 it

01:41:14.860 so

01:41:15.040 obsessively

01:41:15.620 that

01:41:15.800 you

01:41:15.940 might

01:41:16.100 come

01:41:16.280 up

01:41:16.420 with

01:41:16.560 a

01:41:16.700 solution

01:41:17.100 but

01:41:17.600 it's

01:41:17.760 the

01:41:17.880 people

01:41:18.100 who

01:41:18.240 come

01:41:18.380 up

01:41:18.520 with

01:41:18.680 a

01:41:18.860 solution

01:41:19.380 that

01:41:20.220 are

01:41:20.380 the

01:41:20.660 prophets

01:41:21.420 and the

01:41:21.820 shaman

01:41:22.140 and so

01:41:22.600 forth

01:41:22.920 and so

01:41:23.280 on

01:41:23.500 and

01:41:24.220 and

01:41:24.320 and so

01:41:24.780 that's

01:41:25.080 not

01:41:25.240 this

01:41:25.680 isn't

01:41:25.920 something

01:41:26.180 that

01:41:26.420 only

01:41:26.860 characterizes

01:41:27.400 archaic

01:41:27.840 cultures

01:41:28.160 we

01:41:28.340 just

01:41:28.520 don't

01:41:28.700 recognize

01:41:29.180 it

01:41:29.380 in

01:41:29.940 our

01:41:30.040 own

01:41:30.200 culture

01:41:30.500 properly

01:41:30.940 and

01:41:31.520 that's

01:41:32.640 a

01:41:32.760 problem

01:41:33.100 well

01:41:34.160 sometimes

01:41:34.600 we

01:41:34.780 do

01:41:35.020 right

01:41:37.120 you

01:41:37.240 remember

01:41:37.540 that

01:41:37.880 in

01:41:38.280 the

01:41:38.560 lion

01:41:38.760 king

01:41:39.020 right

01:41:39.300 that

01:41:39.560 Rafiki

01:41:40.000 shows up

01:41:40.600 he's

01:41:40.820 the

01:41:40.960 shaman

01:41:41.300 he

01:41:41.560 brings

01:41:42.520 Simba

01:41:44.680 down

01:41:45.540 that

01:41:45.760 tunnel

01:41:46.080 dark

01:41:46.480 tunnel

01:41:46.760 that's

01:41:47.020 the

01:41:47.140 dark

01:41:47.360 night

01:41:47.540 of

01:41:47.640 his

01:41:47.780 soul

01:41:48.040 he

01:41:48.700 has

01:41:48.840 him

01:41:48.940 reflect

01:41:49.320 upon

01:41:49.600 himself

01:41:50.000 in

01:41:50.180 a

01:41:50.300 pool

01:41:50.580 when

01:41:51.160 he

01:41:51.240 reflects

01:41:51.580 upon

01:41:51.800 himself

01:41:52.140 deeply

01:41:52.520 he

01:41:52.680 sees

01:41:52.840 the

01:41:52.960 reflection

01:41:53.340 of

01:41:53.520 his

01:41:53.660 father

01:41:54.020 then

01:41:54.540 that

01:41:54.700 becomes

01:41:55.040 a

01:41:55.180 thing

01:41:55.680 of

01:41:55.820 cosmic

01:41:56.240 significance

01:41:57.000 and

01:41:57.600 his

01:41:57.720 father

01:41:58.000 appears

01:41:58.400 in

01:41:58.760 the

01:41:58.900 sky

01:41:59.220 just

01:42:00.220 like

01:42:00.500 god

01:42:01.100 appears

01:42:01.380 to

01:42:01.540 jacob

01:42:01.920 and

01:42:02.140 basically

01:42:02.700 tells

01:42:03.080 him

01:42:03.240 that

01:42:03.440 it's

01:42:03.920 time

01:42:04.120 for

01:42:04.260 him

01:42:04.360 to

01:42:04.460 grow

01:42:04.620 the

01:42:04.780 hell

01:42:04.940 up

01:42:05.180 and

01:42:05.760 to

01:42:05.880 return

01:42:06.320 to

01:42:06.540 the

01:42:06.740 devastated

01:42:07.380 kingdom

01:42:07.880 and

01:42:08.360 to

01:42:08.520 set

01:42:08.760 it

01:42:08.900 right

01:42:09.220 you know

01:42:10.340 and so

01:42:10.760 and that's

01:42:12.120 right

01:42:12.360 that's

01:42:12.600 exactly

01:42:12.940 right

01:42:13.220 I

01:42:13.360 mean

01:42:13.520 we

01:42:13.800 live

01:42:14.020 in

01:42:14.120 the

01:42:14.240 devastated

01:42:14.660 kingdom

01:42:15.060 that's

01:42:15.380 an

01:42:15.480 eternal

01:42:15.840 truth

01:42:16.380 and

01:42:17.140 it's

01:42:17.320 the

01:42:17.440 responsibility

01:42:17.940 of

01:42:18.280 the

01:42:18.400 individual

01:42:18.820 to

01:42:19.060 grow

01:42:19.360 the

01:42:19.540 hell

01:42:19.780 up

01:42:20.060 and

01:42:20.540 to

01:42:20.680 set

01:42:21.000 it

01:42:21.160 right

01:42:21.500 because

01:42:22.500 when

01:42:23.060 it's

01:42:23.320 devastated

01:42:23.860 and

01:42:24.100 when

01:42:24.260 things

01:42:24.480 are

01:42:24.600 not

01:42:24.820 in

01:42:25.020 place

01:42:25.300 then

01:42:25.500 everyone

01:42:25.820 suffers

01:42:26.300 too

01:42:26.580 much

01:42:26.920 and

01:42:27.820 that's

01:42:28.060 not

01:42:28.300 good

01:42:28.600 and

01:42:29.380 there's

01:42:29.540 no

01:42:29.720 excuse

01:42:30.060 for

01:42:30.220 not

01:42:30.400 doing

01:42:30.600 something

01:42:30.880 about

01:42:31.120 it

01:42:31.220 because

01:42:31.420 you

01:42:31.540 don't

01:42:31.700 have

01:42:31.860 anything

01:42:32.120 better

01:42:32.380 to

01:42:32.560 do

01:42:32.820 so

01:42:33.960 and

01:42:35.600 even

01:42:35.860 like

01:42:36.320 children's

01:42:37.640 movies

01:42:37.920 tell

01:42:38.220 you

01:42:38.380 this

01:42:38.680 so

01:42:39.680 this

01:42:43.280 is

01:42:43.400 a fun

01:42:43.720 one

01:42:43.980 this

01:42:44.980 is

01:42:45.120 from

01:42:45.320 the

01:42:45.500 Eid

01:42:45.740 wine

01:42:45.980 Psalter

01:42:46.540 9th

01:42:47.220 to

01:42:47.380 12th

01:42:47.740 century

01:42:48.060 and

01:42:48.220 that's

01:42:48.640 Adam

01:42:48.880 and

01:42:49.020 Eve

01:42:49.260 but

01:42:49.460 the

01:42:50.420 there

01:42:51.480 is

01:42:51.740 speculation

01:42:52.360 that

01:42:52.980 the

01:42:53.220 fruit

01:42:53.500 that

01:42:53.760 they're

01:42:53.920 eating

01:42:54.180 there

01:42:54.420 you

01:42:54.600 see

01:42:54.820 these

01:42:55.100 psilocybin

01:42:56.100 mushrooms

01:42:56.640 right

01:42:58.360 because

01:42:58.600 they're

01:42:58.800 the only

01:42:59.120 kind

01:42:59.340 of

01:42:59.420 mushroom

01:42:59.680 that

01:42:59.920 grow

01:43:00.120 like

01:43:00.360 that

01:43:00.700 so

01:43:01.960 that's

01:43:02.240 pretty

01:43:02.440 wild

01:43:02.860 you

01:43:03.940 might

01:43:04.160 say

01:43:04.480 and

01:43:05.860 then

01:43:06.100 this

01:43:06.480 is

01:43:06.620 the

01:43:06.840 I

01:43:07.120 think

01:43:07.280 it's

01:43:07.440 called

01:43:07.660 Banisteria

01:43:08.500 vine

01:43:08.880 if I

01:43:09.300 remember

01:43:09.580 correctly

01:43:09.980 and

01:43:10.120 it's

01:43:10.240 what

01:43:10.420 ayahuasca

01:43:10.980 is

01:43:11.160 made

01:43:11.360 out

01:43:11.520 of

01:43:11.620 and

01:43:11.720 it

01:43:11.820 has

01:43:11.980 this

01:43:12.160 double

01:43:12.460 helix

01:43:12.880 form

01:43:13.240 which

01:43:13.460 is

01:43:13.600 very

01:43:13.880 very

01:43:14.700 interesting

01:43:15.260 and

01:43:15.900 the

01:43:16.060 natives

01:43:17.080 nobody

01:43:17.420 could

01:43:17.660 figure

01:43:17.860 out

01:43:18.000 how

01:43:18.120 the

01:43:18.260 hell

01:43:18.400 they

01:43:18.540 made

01:43:18.780 this

01:43:19.060 ayahuasca

01:43:19.820 which

01:43:20.360 transports

01:43:21.320 people

01:43:21.640 spiritually

01:43:22.460 in a

01:43:22.940 very

01:43:23.100 intense

01:43:23.500 manner

01:43:23.860 and

01:43:24.400 there's

01:43:24.520 a

01:43:24.580 whole

01:43:24.700 religion

01:43:25.040 based

01:43:25.340 on it

01:43:25.700 like

01:43:26.460 a

01:43:26.580 modern

01:43:26.820 religion

01:43:27.200 as

01:43:27.400 well

01:43:27.560 as

01:43:27.700 the

01:43:27.840 archaic

01:43:28.240 religion

01:43:28.620 to

01:43:29.280 make

01:43:30.100 this

01:43:30.300 stuff

01:43:30.500 they

01:43:30.660 had

01:43:30.780 to

01:43:30.900 take

01:43:31.060 two

01:43:31.280 plants

01:43:31.680 that

01:43:31.840 don't

01:43:32.040 grow

01:43:32.220 anywhere

01:43:32.560 near

01:43:32.880 each

01:43:33.100 other

01:43:33.340 and

01:43:34.200 like

01:43:34.400 there's

01:43:34.560 like

01:43:34.720 a

01:43:34.920 million

01:43:35.240 plants

01:43:35.780 in

01:43:35.920 the

01:43:36.020 Amazon

01:43:36.360 so

01:43:36.720 like

01:43:36.920 how

01:43:37.060 do

01:43:37.160 you

01:43:37.260 figure

01:43:37.460 that

01:43:37.720 out

01:43:37.920 nobody

01:43:38.260 knows

01:43:38.660 then

01:43:39.080 you

01:43:39.160 have

01:43:39.280 to

01:43:39.400 cook

01:43:39.700 them

01:43:39.880 in

01:43:40.000 this

01:43:40.180 very

01:43:40.520 particular

01:43:41.120 way

01:43:41.440 for

01:43:41.640 a

01:43:41.840 particular

01:43:42.400 amount

01:43:42.720 of

01:43:42.880 time

01:43:43.260 before

01:43:44.100 you

01:43:44.300 produce

01:43:44.660 this

01:43:44.860 stuff

01:43:45.080 so

01:43:45.260 one

01:43:45.460 of

01:43:45.560 the

01:43:45.640 plants

01:43:45.900 has

01:43:46.080 DMT

01:43:46.740 in

01:43:46.940 it

01:43:47.040 which

01:43:47.220 is

01:43:47.340 a

01:43:47.420 very

01:43:47.600 intense

01:43:47.960 psychedelic

01:43:48.540 but

01:43:48.680 it's

01:43:48.800 very

01:43:49.000 short

01:43:49.300 acting

01:43:49.700 and

01:43:50.360 the

01:43:50.460 other

01:43:50.660 has

01:43:51.000 MAO

01:43:52.320 inhibitor

01:43:52.880 so

01:43:53.140 if

01:43:53.340 you

01:43:53.440 take

01:43:53.640 the

01:43:53.780 DMT

01:43:54.240 and

01:43:54.400 you

01:43:54.520 take

01:43:54.700 the

01:43:54.840 MAO

01:43:55.180 inhibitor

01:43:55.660 then

01:43:56.140 the

01:43:56.340 DMT

01:44:06.920 much

01:44:07.300 of

01:44:07.420 an

01:44:07.540 explanation

01:44:08.020 as

01:44:08.300 far

01:44:08.460 as

01:44:08.580 modern

01:44:08.860 people

01:44:09.160 are

01:44:09.360 concerned

01:44:09.740 but

01:44:09.960 then

01:44:10.720 when

01:44:10.920 modern

01:44:11.240 people

01:44:11.560 take

01:44:11.840 the

01:44:12.020 ayahuasca

01:44:12.660 and

01:44:13.540 the

01:44:13.700 plant

01:44:14.060 so

01:44:14.500 to

01:44:14.660 speak

01:44:14.960 starts

01:44:15.460 to

01:44:15.640 talk

01:44:15.880 to

01:44:16.040 them

01:44:16.220 they're

01:44:16.680 a

01:44:16.800 little

01:44:16.960 less

01:44:17.260 leery

01:44:17.640 of

01:44:17.880 the

01:44:18.000 whole

01:44:18.200 theory

01:44:18.480 that

01:44:18.700 the

01:44:18.820 plants

01:44:19.120 had

01:44:19.340 something

01:44:19.620 to

01:44:19.820 do

01:44:19.960 with

01:44:20.140 this

01:44:20.420 so

01:44:21.140 you

01:44:21.500 know

01:44:21.620 these

01:44:22.040 things

01:44:22.400 that

01:44:23.540 these

01:44:23.900 I'm

01:44:24.220 loath

01:44:24.540 to

01:44:24.720 talk

01:44:25.020 about

01:44:25.240 this

01:44:25.440 because

01:44:25.700 I'm

01:44:25.860 not

01:44:26.040 an

01:44:26.180 advocate

01:44:26.560 for

01:44:26.820 drug

01:44:27.100 use

01:44:27.440 but

01:44:28.040 by

01:44:28.240 the

01:44:28.400 same

01:44:28.620 token

01:44:28.980 you

01:44:29.160 can't

01:44:29.480 ignore

01:44:29.840 empirical

01:44:30.380 data

01:44:30.780 it's

01:44:31.240 not

01:44:31.460 reasonable

01:44:31.920 and

01:44:33.020 the

01:44:33.420 empirical

01:44:33.800 data

01:44:34.140 that

01:44:34.360 psychedelic

01:44:35.000 substances

01:44:35.460 can

01:44:35.800 produce

01:44:36.140 mystical

01:44:36.560 experiences

01:44:37.200 and that

01:44:37.620 those

01:44:37.820 often

01:44:38.160 have

01:44:38.380 a

01:44:38.480 transformative

01:44:39.020 effect

01:44:39.500 I mean

01:44:39.760 one of

01:44:40.180 the

01:44:40.280 latest

01:44:40.520 studies

01:44:40.880 showed

01:44:41.160 that

01:44:41.300 if

01:44:41.420 you

01:44:41.520 took

01:44:41.700 people

01:44:41.960 who

01:44:42.100 were

01:44:42.260 dying

01:44:42.960 of

01:44:43.140 cancer

01:44:43.560 and

01:44:43.780 you

01:44:43.940 gave

01:44:45.120 them

01:44:45.300 psilocybin

01:44:45.960 in a

01:44:46.420 sufficient

01:44:46.960 dose

01:44:47.220 to

01:44:47.360 produce

01:44:47.640 a

01:44:47.760 mystical

01:44:48.060 experience

01:44:48.580 that

01:44:48.960 you

01:44:49.120 radically

01:44:49.600 decreased

01:44:50.300 their

01:44:50.580 fear

01:44:51.260 of

01:44:51.420 death

01:44:51.760 it's

01:44:52.700 like

01:44:52.920 you

01:44:54.420 got

01:44:54.600 to

01:44:54.720 think

01:44:54.940 about

01:44:55.200 that

01:44:55.480 man

01:44:55.720 that's

01:44:56.120 that's

01:44:57.340 tough

01:44:57.800 that's

01:44:58.160 a

01:44:58.280 tough

01:44:58.500 experiment

01:44:59.060 you

01:44:59.440 you

01:44:59.660 just

01:44:59.900 wouldn't

01:45:00.220 expect

01:45:00.640 that

01:45:00.880 you

01:45:01.160 think

01:45:01.420 you

01:45:01.840 take

01:45:02.140 someone

01:45:02.380 you

01:45:02.560 deranged

01:45:03.380 them

01:45:03.740 intensely

01:45:04.840 and then

01:45:05.800 when they

01:45:06.040 come back

01:45:06.420 they're

01:45:06.600 not

01:45:06.820 even

01:45:07.220 though

01:45:07.420 they're

01:45:07.540 dying

01:45:07.840 they're

01:45:08.000 not

01:45:08.180 nearly

01:45:08.440 as

01:45:08.620 afraid

01:45:08.900 of

01:45:09.060 dying

01:45:09.400 you

01:45:10.060 know

01:45:10.160 you

01:45:10.400 got

01:45:10.800 to

01:45:10.920 kind

01:45:11.100 of

01:45:11.220 wake

01:45:11.540 up

01:45:11.700 and

01:45:11.840 smell

01:45:12.040 the

01:45:12.220 roses

01:45:12.480 when

01:45:12.760 you

01:45:12.880 see

01:45:13.040 something

01:45:13.280 like

01:45:13.480 that

01:45:13.640 and

01:45:13.780 the

01:45:14.100 people

01:45:14.300 who

01:45:14.400 are

01:45:14.500 doing

01:45:14.660 this

01:45:14.840 research

01:45:15.160 very

01:45:15.640 reliable

01:45:16.120 people

01:45:16.560 so

01:45:17.500 there's

01:45:19.400 the

01:45:19.520 Amanita

01:45:19.880 Muscaria

01:45:20.500 you

01:45:21.380 know

01:45:21.500 there's

01:45:21.800 this

01:45:21.980 old

01:45:22.200 idea

01:45:22.520 it's

01:45:22.700 quite

01:45:22.900 a

01:45:23.000 funny

01:45:23.180 idea

01:45:23.480 toadstools

01:45:24.200 so

01:45:24.460 flies

01:45:25.620 like

01:45:25.940 Amanita

01:45:26.280 Muscaria

01:45:26.860 and

01:45:27.900 there's

01:45:28.080 some

01:45:28.320 this

01:45:29.160 is

01:45:29.300 ridiculous

01:45:29.780 there's

01:45:30.640 some

01:45:30.840 evidence

01:45:31.200 that

01:45:31.440 they

01:45:31.580 actually

01:45:31.960 like

01:45:32.240 getting

01:45:32.540 stoned

01:45:33.160 so

01:45:34.360 because

01:45:34.640 animals

01:45:35.060 will

01:45:35.260 eat

01:45:35.460 these

01:45:35.660 like

01:45:35.840 reindeer

01:45:36.200 will

01:45:36.400 eat

01:45:36.560 these

01:45:36.720 things

01:45:36.980 too

01:45:37.260 and

01:45:37.460 they

01:45:37.580 get

01:45:37.740 pretty

01:45:38.020 tripped

01:45:38.380 out

01:45:38.600 by

01:45:38.840 them

01:45:39.040 and

01:45:39.520 so

01:45:39.680 I

01:45:39.880 have

01:45:40.060 this

01:45:40.280 book

01:45:40.560 on

01:45:40.780 psychedelic

01:45:41.360 use

01:45:41.580 among

01:45:41.840 animals

01:45:42.300 which

01:45:42.620 is

01:45:43.020 a

01:45:43.160 small

01:45:43.420 book

01:45:43.740 but

01:45:44.000 and

01:45:45.040 so

01:45:45.260 there's

01:45:47.160 there's

01:45:47.740 this

01:45:47.920 idea

01:45:48.320 that

01:45:48.740 toads

01:45:49.080 used

01:45:49.300 to

01:45:49.480 sit

01:45:49.680 around

01:45:50.000 the

01:45:50.320 Amanita

01:45:51.180 Muscaria

01:45:51.700 and wait

01:45:52.000 for the

01:45:52.380 stone

01:45:52.720 flies

01:45:53.240 to

01:45:53.500 like

01:45:54.060 buzz

01:45:54.620 badly

01:45:55.060 around

01:45:55.360 them

01:45:55.500 and

01:45:55.620 then

01:45:55.800 snap

01:45:56.120 them

01:45:56.300 up

01:45:56.560 so

01:45:56.800 that's

01:45:57.500 pretty

01:45:57.700 funny

01:45:58.040 I

01:45:58.540 think

01:45:58.780 and

01:45:58.980 so

01:45:59.920 and

01:46:00.800 you

01:46:01.600 know

01:46:01.720 there

01:46:01.900 are

01:46:02.040 mushrooms

01:46:02.520 in

01:46:02.920 the

01:46:03.280 US

01:46:03.640 that

01:46:03.840 are

01:46:03.920 the

01:46:04.080 oldest

01:46:04.560 organisms

01:46:06.360 on

01:46:06.680 the

01:46:06.820 planet

01:46:07.140 there's

01:46:07.560 one

01:46:07.820 mushroom

01:46:08.240 I

01:46:08.440 can't

01:46:10.780 oh god

01:46:11.840 I don't

01:46:12.180 know

01:46:12.320 like

01:46:12.560 hundreds

01:46:13.360 of square

01:46:13.980 miles

01:46:14.320 it's

01:46:14.560 like

01:46:14.700 this

01:46:14.880 huge

01:46:15.280 thing

01:46:15.720 because

01:46:16.180 it's

01:46:16.320 all

01:46:16.460 underground

01:46:16.940 right

01:46:17.340 and

01:46:17.460 they

01:46:17.560 have

01:46:17.700 these

01:46:17.860 very

01:46:18.140 complex

01:46:18.740 networks

01:46:19.320 of

01:46:19.640 mycelia

01:46:21.160 they're

01:46:21.380 called

01:46:21.680 and

01:46:22.180 they

01:46:22.300 think

01:46:22.480 the

01:46:22.620 thing

01:46:22.800 is

01:46:22.920 like

01:46:23.080 150,000

01:46:24.140 years

01:46:24.440 old

01:46:24.740 something

01:46:25.040 like

01:46:25.300 that

01:46:25.540 so

01:46:25.780 there's

01:46:26.880 plenty

01:46:27.160 of

01:46:27.340 things

01:46:27.560 about

01:46:27.780 the

01:46:27.940 world

01:46:28.120 that

01:46:28.300 we

01:46:28.440 don't

01:46:28.720 know

01:46:29.000 that's

01:46:29.800 for

01:46:30.000 sure

01:46:30.300 there's

01:46:31.880 the

01:46:32.120 chemical

01:46:32.840 makeup

01:46:33.220 of

01:46:33.480 the

01:46:33.700 classic

01:46:34.120 psychedelics

01:46:34.740 you

01:46:34.860 see

01:46:34.960 they

01:46:35.120 all

01:46:35.240 have

01:46:35.400 the

01:46:35.560 same

01:46:35.820 fundamental

01:46:36.340 structure

01:46:36.860 this

01:46:37.440 is

01:46:37.620 serotonin

01:46:38.280 that's

01:46:38.620 the

01:46:38.780 one

01:46:39.200 of

01:46:39.280 the

01:46:39.360 major

01:46:39.620 brain

01:46:39.980 neurotransmitters

01:46:40.920 and so

01:46:41.200 what

01:46:41.360 happens

01:46:41.720 with

01:46:41.880 the

01:46:42.040 psychedelics

01:46:42.620 is

01:46:42.780 that

01:46:42.980 they

01:46:43.580 they

01:46:44.460 alter

01:46:45.080 the

01:46:45.420 they

01:46:46.220 alter

01:46:46.520 the

01:46:46.740 brain

01:46:47.100 function

01:46:47.440 by

01:46:47.660 altering

01:46:48.200 the

01:46:48.880 neurochemical

01:46:50.300 utilization

01:46:51.720 of

01:46:52.420 serotonin

01:46:52.960 they

01:46:53.200 change

01:46:53.440 the

01:46:53.620 manner

01:46:53.960 in

01:46:54.140 which

01:46:54.300 the

01:46:54.500 serotonergic

01:46:55.060 systems

01:46:55.520 work

01:46:55.900 and

01:46:56.140 the

01:46:56.620 serotonin

01:46:57.720 system

01:46:58.080 is

01:46:58.240 very

01:46:58.460 basic

01:46:58.820 system

01:46:59.240 because

01:46:59.500 when

01:46:59.680 you're

01:46:59.840 an

01:46:59.940 embryo

01:47:00.400 and

01:47:01.040 your

01:47:01.160 brain

01:47:01.360 is

01:47:01.500 developing

01:47:01.880 it's

01:47:02.140 the

01:47:02.320 serotonin

01:47:02.860 projections

01:47:03.340 that

01:47:03.660 basically

01:47:04.140 orchestrate

01:47:05.100 the

01:47:05.240 development

01:47:05.580 of

01:47:05.780 your

01:47:05.900 brain

01:47:06.240 so

01:47:06.800 they're

01:47:07.120 and

01:47:07.540 they're

01:47:07.660 very

01:47:07.880 archaic

01:47:08.440 circuits

01:47:08.860 very

01:47:09.140 very

01:47:09.400 archaic

01:47:09.860 circuits

01:47:10.280 so

01:47:11.120 and

01:47:13.960 this

01:47:14.140 is

01:47:14.260 the

01:47:14.400 paper

01:47:14.700 I

01:47:15.020 think

01:47:15.180 I

01:47:15.320 stole

01:47:15.700 this

01:47:15.920 from

01:47:16.220 psilocybin

01:47:17.100 Griffiths

01:47:17.840 who's

01:47:18.140 been

01:47:18.280 doing

01:47:18.420 a lot

01:47:18.620 of

01:47:18.700 this

01:47:18.860 research

01:47:19.240 psilocybin

01:47:19.860 can

01:47:20.040 occasion

01:47:20.440 mystical

01:47:20.880 type

01:47:21.160 experiences

01:47:21.720 having

01:47:22.080 substantial

01:47:22.720 and

01:47:22.980 sustained

01:47:23.340 personal

01:47:23.800 meaning

01:47:24.060 and

01:47:24.280 spiritual

01:47:24.600 significance

01:47:25.300 so

01:47:26.600 why

01:47:28.120 that's

01:47:29.920 a good

01:47:30.120 question

01:47:30.560 right

01:47:30.840 like

01:47:31.120 so

01:47:31.500 here's

01:47:32.180 a

01:47:32.340 question

01:47:32.700 for

01:47:32.920 you

01:47:33.060 it

01:47:33.480 is

01:47:33.600 beyond

01:47:34.040 dispute

01:47:34.520 that

01:47:34.780 human

01:47:35.020 beings

01:47:35.300 are

01:47:35.440 capable

01:47:35.760 of

01:47:35.980 religious

01:47:36.240 experience

01:47:36.880 why

01:47:38.620 why is

01:47:40.100 that

01:47:40.340 exactly

01:47:40.860 and

01:47:41.920 like

01:47:42.180 you

01:47:42.440 can

01:47:42.600 associate

01:47:43.000 it

01:47:43.180 with

01:47:43.300 psychosis

01:47:43.900 but

01:47:44.300 that

01:47:44.440 doesn't

01:47:44.680 work

01:47:45.040 the

01:47:45.960 theory

01:47:46.180 doesn't

01:47:46.460 hold

01:47:46.700 water

01:47:47.940 it's

01:47:48.440 not

01:47:48.580 the

01:47:48.740 same

01:47:48.920 thing

01:47:49.260 so

01:47:50.200 why

01:47:50.400 is

01:47:50.540 it

01:47:50.640 there

01:47:50.900 exactly

01:47:51.760 and

01:47:53.660 it's

01:47:53.980 not

01:47:54.160 an

01:47:54.280 easy

01:47:54.460 thing

01:47:54.660 to

01:47:54.800 figure

01:47:55.020 out

01:47:55.220 like

01:47:55.380 I've

01:47:55.520 been

01:47:55.620 trying

01:47:55.840 to

01:47:55.960 figure

01:47:56.140 I'm

01:47:56.360 always

01:47:56.540 trying

01:47:56.740 to

01:47:56.820 figure

01:48:00.840 stand

01:48:01.100 on

01:48:01.280 you

01:48:01.400 want

01:48:01.540 to

01:48:01.600 make

01:48:01.740 sure

01:48:01.880 that

01:48:02.000 it

01:48:02.100 can

01:48:02.260 resist

01:48:02.680 a

01:48:02.880 challenge

01:48:03.360 and

01:48:03.820 so

01:48:03.940 if

01:48:04.060 I

01:48:04.180 can

01:48:04.320 find

01:48:04.540 an

01:48:04.660 explanation

01:48:05.120 for

01:48:05.380 something

01:48:05.680 that's

01:48:05.980 reductionistic

01:48:06.780 and

01:48:06.960 materialistic

01:48:07.580 and

01:48:07.760 biological

01:48:08.240 then

01:48:08.600 I'm

01:48:09.100 going

01:48:09.320 for

01:48:09.500 that

01:48:09.740 that's

01:48:10.420 a

01:48:10.520 tough

01:48:10.740 one

01:48:10.980 consciousness

01:48:11.840 is

01:48:12.160 a

01:48:12.300 tough

01:48:12.500 one

01:48:12.740 the

01:48:13.460 moral

01:48:13.920 sense

01:48:14.300 is

01:48:14.460 a

01:48:14.600 tough

01:48:14.820 one

01:48:15.060 they're

01:48:15.240 not

01:48:15.400 easy

01:48:15.620 things

01:48:15.880 to

01:48:16.040 crack

01:48:16.400 the

01:48:16.760 big

01:48:16.940 bang

01:48:17.200 is

01:48:17.360 a

01:48:17.480 tough

01:48:17.700 one

01:48:18.000 so

01:48:19.000 you

01:48:23.580 know

01:48:23.700 I

01:48:23.840 mean

01:48:23.980 a

01:48:24.160 cynic

01:48:24.440 might

01:48:24.660 say

01:48:24.880 that

01:48:25.080 maybe

01:48:25.460 sometimes

01:48:28.720 when

01:48:29.000 people

01:48:29.220 are

01:48:29.400 close

01:48:29.620 to

01:48:29.820 suicide

01:48:30.360 they'll

01:48:30.860 have

01:48:31.040 a

01:48:31.260 mystical

01:48:31.740 experience

01:48:32.360 you

01:48:32.540 know

01:48:32.700 and

01:48:33.380 maybe

01:48:33.680 you

01:48:33.860 say

01:48:34.040 well

01:48:34.220 it's

01:48:34.360 a

01:48:34.500 last

01:48:34.860 ditch

01:48:35.260 attempt

01:48:35.720 of

01:48:35.940 your

01:48:36.120 brain

01:48:36.540 to

01:48:36.800 delude

01:48:37.340 you

01:48:37.540 into

01:48:37.760 thinking

01:48:38.160 that

01:48:38.380 your

01:48:38.540 life

01:48:38.800 has

01:48:39.020 some

01:48:39.260 significance

01:48:39.880 you

01:48:40.200 know

01:48:40.380 and

01:48:41.060 that's

01:48:41.780 a

01:48:41.900 plausible

01:48:42.300 theory

01:48:42.800 but

01:48:43.440 I

01:48:44.680 don't

01:48:44.960 think

01:48:45.200 it

01:48:45.320 accounts

01:48:45.800 for

01:48:46.000 the

01:48:46.200 generality

01:48:46.820 of

01:48:47.080 the

01:48:47.240 phenomena

01:48:47.680 so

01:48:48.940 so

01:48:48.980 I

01:48:51.020 don't

01:48:51.240 buy

01:48:51.560 it

01:48:51.840 what

01:48:56.640 happens

01:48:56.940 in

01:48:57.080 the

01:48:57.200 shamanic

01:48:57.720 experience

01:49:00.100 is that

01:49:00.660 the

01:49:01.500 shaman

01:49:01.780 has

01:49:02.040 the

01:49:02.260 experience

01:49:02.800 of being

01:49:03.080 reduced

01:49:03.480 to a

01:49:03.840 skeleton

01:49:04.160 first

01:49:05.240 so

01:49:06.340 death

01:49:07.300 a

01:49:07.480 death

01:49:07.680 experience

01:49:08.220 a

01:49:08.460 very

01:49:08.800 realistic

01:49:09.280 death

01:49:09.620 experience

01:49:10.120 and

01:49:10.340 then

01:49:10.520 the

01:49:11.060 next

01:49:11.280 thing

01:49:11.460 that

01:49:11.600 happens

01:49:11.940 is

01:49:12.160 that

01:49:12.380 he

01:49:13.660 finds

01:49:14.100 himself

01:49:14.540 in

01:49:14.740 a

01:49:14.820 place

01:49:15.040 where

01:49:15.180 he's

01:49:15.400 communing

01:49:15.880 with

01:49:16.060 his

01:49:16.220 ancestor

01:49:16.840 the

01:49:17.160 ancestral

01:49:17.660 spirits

01:49:18.300 and

01:49:19.340 then

01:49:19.580 after

01:49:20.300 that

01:49:20.600 there's

01:49:20.920 the

01:49:21.360 climbing

01:49:21.980 of

01:49:22.260 something

01:49:22.580 like

01:49:22.860 the

01:49:23.320 ladder

01:49:23.680 Jacob's

01:49:24.520 ladder

01:49:24.760 say

01:49:25.060 and

01:49:25.920 an

01:49:26.200 encounter

01:49:26.620 with

01:49:27.000 God

01:49:28.040 for

01:49:28.320 all

01:49:28.620 intents

01:49:28.940 and

01:49:29.080 purposes

01:49:29.440 and

01:49:30.680 it's

01:49:31.920 very

01:49:32.120 widespread

01:49:32.620 phenomena

01:49:35.220 it's

01:49:37.000 the

01:49:37.140 world

01:49:37.400 tree

01:49:37.760 and

01:49:37.980 I

01:49:38.220 thought

01:49:38.600 about

01:49:38.800 this

01:49:39.000 a

01:49:39.120 lot

01:49:39.280 trying

01:49:39.500 to

01:49:39.620 figure

01:49:39.740 out

01:49:39.860 what

01:49:39.980 this

01:49:40.220 what

01:49:42.180 this

01:49:42.360 represents

01:49:42.840 according

01:49:43.180 to

01:49:43.360 a

01:49:43.480 Yakut

01:49:43.880 informant

01:49:44.440 that's

01:49:44.980 in

01:49:45.100 Siberia

01:49:45.540 the

01:49:45.740 spirits

01:49:46.060 carry

01:49:46.480 the

01:49:46.640 future

01:49:46.920 shaman

01:49:47.240 to

01:49:47.440 hell

01:49:47.780 and

01:49:48.240 shut

01:49:48.440 him

01:49:48.520 in

01:49:48.600 a

01:49:48.680 house

01:49:48.860 for

01:49:49.020 three

01:49:49.240 years

01:49:49.620 here

01:49:50.180 he

01:49:51.360 the

01:49:51.840 spirits

01:49:52.120 cut

01:49:52.340 off

01:49:52.500 his

01:49:52.640 head

01:49:52.960 which

01:49:53.600 they

01:49:53.760 set

01:49:53.940 off

01:49:54.100 to

01:49:54.220 one

01:49:54.440 side

01:49:54.780 for

01:49:54.980 the

01:49:55.100 novice

01:49:55.440 must

01:49:55.720 watch

01:49:56.120 his

01:49:56.300 own

01:49:56.600 dismemberment

01:49:57.400 with

01:49:57.580 his

01:49:57.740 own

01:49:57.960 eyes

01:49:58.280 dissolution

01:49:59.320 to

01:49:59.580 the

01:49:59.800 primary

01:50:00.320 elements

01:50:00.820 in

01:50:00.980 some

01:50:01.180 sense

01:50:01.480 and

01:50:01.920 hack

01:50:02.180 his

01:50:02.320 body

01:50:02.580 to

01:50:02.760 bits

01:50:03.000 which

01:50:03.180 are

01:50:03.280 later

01:50:03.500 distributed

01:50:04.040 among

01:50:04.300 the

01:50:04.480 spirits

01:50:04.800 of

01:50:04.960 various

01:50:05.280 sicknesses

01:50:05.920 it's

01:50:06.660 only

01:50:06.840 on

01:50:06.980 this

01:50:07.140 condition

01:50:07.480 that

01:50:07.660 the

01:50:07.780 future

01:50:08.040 shaman

01:50:08.360 will

01:50:08.620 obtain

01:50:09.060 the

01:50:09.200 power

01:50:09.420 of

01:50:09.580 healing

01:50:09.880 his

01:50:10.440 bones

01:50:10.720 are

01:50:10.840 then

01:50:11.000 covered

01:50:11.260 with

01:50:11.460 new

01:50:11.660 flesh

01:50:12.020 and

01:50:12.180 in

01:50:12.320 some

01:50:12.500 case

01:50:12.800 he

01:50:12.920 is

01:50:13.040 also

01:50:13.260 given

01:50:13.540 new

01:50:14.160 blood

01:50:14.440 so

01:50:14.780 there's

01:50:14.960 a

01:50:15.100 death

01:50:15.360 and

01:50:15.520 resurrection

01:50:15.880 experience

01:50:16.600 that's

01:50:16.860 associated

01:50:17.300 with

01:50:17.520 the

01:50:17.660 shamanic

01:50:18.060 ritual

01:50:18.420 in

01:50:22.460 today's

01:50:22.900 chaotic

01:50:23.280 world

01:50:23.700 many

01:50:24.040 of

01:50:24.220 us

01:50:24.340 are

01:50:24.480 searching

01:50:24.760 for

01:50:24.980 a

01:50:25.100 way

01:50:25.220 to

01:50:25.380 aim

01:50:25.620 higher

01:50:25.980 and

01:50:26.200 find

01:50:26.520 spiritual

01:50:27.000 peace

01:50:27.460 but

01:50:28.100 here's

01:50:28.420 the

01:50:28.520 thing

01:50:28.780 prayer

01:50:29.400 the

01:50:29.640 most

01:50:29.880 common

01:50:30.200 tool

01:50:30.420 we

01:50:30.600 have

01:50:30.940 isn't

01:50:31.280 just

01:50:31.460 about

01:50:31.680 saying

01:50:31.960 whatever

01:50:32.260 comes

01:50:32.560 to

01:50:32.700 mind

01:50:32.960 it's

01:50:33.520 a

01:50:33.640 skill

01:50:33.940 that

01:50:34.220 needs

01:50:34.480 to

01:50:34.620 be

01:50:34.760 developed

01:50:35.180 that's

01:50:36.000 where

01:50:36.160 hallo

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01:50:37.060 as

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01:50:37.840 one

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01:50:38.320 and

01:50:38.480 meditation

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01:50:39.260 hallo

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01:50:41.920 how

01:50:42.300 to

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01:50:42.800 imagine

01:50:43.720 learning

01:50:44.080 how

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01:50:44.900 as

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01:50:45.820 for

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01:50:46.560 conversations

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01:50:47.500 God

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01:50:53.780 in

01:50:53.940 church

01:50:54.180 history

01:50:54.580 this

01:50:55.480 isn't

01:50:55.700 your

01:50:55.840 average

01:50:56.160 guided

01:50:56.480 meditation

01:50:56.980 it's

01:50:57.660 a

01:50:57.760 comprehensive

01:50:58.320 two

01:50:58.700 week

01:50:58.880 journey

01:50:59.180 into

01:50:59.480 the

01:50:59.680 heart

01:50:59.940 of

01:51:00.140 prayer

01:51:00.460 led

01:51:01.020 by

01:51:01.200 some

01:51:01.400 of

01:51:01.480 the

01:51:01.580 most

01:51:01.760 respected

01:51:02.340 spiritual

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01:51:03.200 of

01:51:03.480 our

01:51:03.640 time

01:51:03.980 from

01:51:04.580 guests

01:51:04.920 including

01:51:05.320 Bishop

01:51:05.660 Robert

01:51:05.980 Barron

01:51:06.400 Father

01:51:06.940 Mike

01:51:07.200 Schmitz

01:51:07.620 and

01:51:07.900 Jonathan

01:51:13.720 have

01:51:13.840 stood

01:51:14.060 the

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01:51:14.940 while

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01:51:15.740 yourself

01:51:16.120 with

01:51:16.300 the

01:51:16.420 tools

01:51:16.680 needed

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01:51:17.120 face

01:51:17.380 life's

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01:51:18.140 with

01:51:18.560 renewed

01:51:18.960 strength

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01:51:20.160 to

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01:51:21.080 your

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01:51:38.140 we're here

01:51:43.300 in the

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01:51:46.060 hunter

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01:51:48.440 final

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01:51:49.160 animal

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01:51:53.520 the

01:51:53.660 bone

01:51:53.840 that

01:51:54.000 men

01:51:54.180 and

01:51:54.300 animals

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01:51:54.820 reborn

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01:51:55.400 a

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01:51:55.760 they

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01:51:56.440 themselves

01:51:56.900 in

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01:51:57.540 of

01:51:57.800 the

01:51:57.940 flesh

01:51:58.240 then

01:51:58.440 they

01:51:58.600 die

01:51:58.900 and

01:51:59.320 their

01:51:59.440 life

01:51:59.700 is

01:51:59.840 reduced

01:52:00.160 to

01:52:00.320 the

01:52:00.460 essence

01:52:00.760 concentrated

01:52:01.420 in

01:52:01.620 the

01:52:01.740 skeleton

01:52:02.060 from

01:52:02.620 which

01:52:02.800 they

01:52:02.960 will

01:52:03.080 be

01:52:03.220 born

01:52:03.460 again

01:52:03.840 that's

01:52:08.580 a good

01:52:08.780 graphic

01:52:09.140 representation

01:52:09.700 of the

01:52:10.240 experience

01:52:10.900 that's

01:52:14.260 an old

01:52:14.520 painting

01:52:14.800 by

01:52:15.020 I think

01:52:15.440 it's

01:52:15.580 Hieronymus

01:52:16.080 Bosch

01:52:16.460 if I

01:52:16.740 remember

01:52:17.020 correctly

01:52:17.440 I

01:52:18.160 really

01:52:18.340 like

01:52:18.540 that

01:52:18.720 because

01:52:18.960 it's

01:52:19.240 reminiscent

01:52:19.760 of

01:52:20.080 the

01:52:20.200 near

01:52:20.360 death

01:52:20.600 experiences

01:52:21.180 that

01:52:21.460 you

01:52:21.620 hear

01:52:21.800 people

01:52:22.180 describe

01:52:22.960 and

01:52:23.100 they're

01:52:23.240 quite

01:52:23.480 common

01:52:23.840 as

01:52:24.040 well

01:52:24.200 and

01:52:25.160 I

01:52:26.680 had

01:52:26.920 a

01:52:27.080 very

01:52:27.380 weird

01:52:27.700 experience

01:52:28.200 once

01:52:28.560 I

01:52:29.320 don't

01:52:29.460 think

01:52:29.640 I've

01:52:29.800 told

01:52:29.980 you

01:52:30.080 this

01:52:30.240 story

01:52:30.540 I

01:52:30.980 was

01:52:31.220 assessing

01:52:33.260 someone

01:52:33.780 who had

01:52:34.100 gone

01:52:34.260 through

01:52:34.440 a

01:52:34.580 car

01:52:34.760 windshield

01:52:35.060 and

01:52:35.400 he

01:52:35.560 was

01:52:35.700 very

01:52:35.940 depressed

01:52:36.480 it

01:52:36.840 had

01:52:36.980 happened

01:52:37.220 a

01:52:37.340 long

01:52:37.520 time

01:52:37.760 before

01:52:38.080 but

01:52:38.420 he

01:52:38.500 was

01:52:38.620 very

01:52:38.800 depressed

01:52:39.200 and

01:52:39.400 the

01:52:40.000 insurance

01:52:40.380 company

01:52:40.680 was

01:52:40.880 basically

01:52:41.280 accusing

01:52:41.760 him

01:52:42.040 of

01:52:42.340 malingering

01:52:43.480 because

01:52:44.100 he'd

01:52:44.220 been

01:52:44.340 depressed

01:52:44.680 for

01:52:44.860 so

01:52:45.040 long

01:52:45.320 and

01:52:45.480 you

01:52:45.860 know

01:52:45.940 he'd

01:52:46.140 sort

01:52:46.300 of

01:52:46.400 healed

01:52:46.580 up

01:52:46.800 and

01:52:46.900 everything

01:52:47.120 but

01:52:47.320 if

01:52:47.820 your

01:52:47.960 left

01:52:48.240 hemisphere

01:52:48.680 is

01:52:48.900 damaged

01:52:49.300 especially

01:52:49.700 the

01:52:49.920 frontal

01:52:50.180 part

01:52:50.480 of

01:52:50.580 your

01:52:50.680 left

01:52:50.880 hemisphere

01:52:51.240 then

01:52:51.500 you

01:52:51.680 can

01:52:51.800 be

01:52:51.940 in

01:52:52.040 a

01:52:52.140 chronic

01:52:52.360 state

01:52:52.680 of

01:52:52.800 depression

01:52:53.180 because

01:52:53.540 the

01:52:53.960 left

01:52:54.180 hemisphere

01:52:54.700 generally

01:52:55.460 speaking

01:52:55.920 is

01:52:56.620 responsible

01:52:57.160 for

01:52:57.440 positive

01:52:57.800 emotion

01:52:58.200 and

01:52:58.420 so

01:52:58.580 if

01:52:58.720 it

01:52:58.820 isn't

01:52:59.060 there

01:52:59.280 then

01:52:59.520 it's

01:52:59.720 like

01:52:59.900 negative

01:53:00.300 emotion

01:53:00.700 for

01:53:00.920 you

01:53:01.180 and

01:53:01.900 so

01:53:02.100 I

01:53:02.820 went

01:53:02.960 and

01:53:03.060 assessed

01:53:03.400 him

01:53:03.600 and

01:53:03.700 I

01:53:03.800 was

01:53:03.920 giving

01:53:04.160 him

01:53:04.320 this

01:53:04.540 I

01:53:05.020 think

01:53:05.340 it

01:53:05.800 was

01:53:05.940 called

01:53:06.180 the

01:53:06.340 MMPI

01:53:06.940 Minnesota

01:53:07.640 Multiphasic

01:53:08.340 Personality

01:53:08.880 Inventory

01:53:09.400 which

01:53:09.580 is

01:53:09.680 kind

01:53:10.200 of

01:53:10.280 a

01:53:10.420 standard

01:53:10.880 half

01:53:13.000 personality

01:53:13.680 test

01:53:14.000 half

01:53:14.260 psychopathology

01:53:15.260 test

01:53:15.660 and

01:53:16.440 he

01:53:17.500 was

01:53:17.700 filling

01:53:18.200 it out

01:53:18.420 he

01:53:18.500 was

01:53:18.600 a

01:53:18.680 very

01:53:18.800 serious

01:53:19.200 guy

01:53:19.460 middle

01:53:19.720 aged

01:53:19.980 guy

01:53:20.280 nothing

01:53:20.980 about

01:53:21.300 him

01:53:21.460 was

01:53:21.820 new

01:53:22.500 agey

01:53:22.980 in

01:53:23.240 the

01:53:23.460 least

01:53:23.800 he

01:53:23.940 was

01:53:24.020 like

01:53:24.240 an

01:53:24.520 accountant

01:53:24.920 I

01:53:25.140 think

01:53:25.340 in fact

01:53:26.180 he

01:53:26.320 was

01:53:26.500 an

01:53:26.640 accountant

01:53:26.920 if I

01:53:27.260 remember

01:53:27.520 correctly

01:53:27.940 and

01:53:30.120 there

01:53:30.220 was

01:53:30.320 one

01:53:30.480 question

01:53:30.900 and

01:53:31.280 it

01:53:31.400 said

01:53:31.620 my

01:53:32.180 spirit

01:53:32.920 has

01:53:33.920 left

01:53:34.220 my

01:53:34.460 body

01:53:34.860 I

01:53:36.160 think

01:53:36.300 that's

01:53:36.560 right

01:53:36.760 it's

01:53:36.920 very

01:53:37.100 close

01:53:37.460 and

01:53:37.720 he

01:53:38.280 stopped

01:53:38.820 and

01:53:38.960 he

01:53:39.060 asked

01:53:39.320 me

01:53:39.600 well

01:53:40.600 he

01:53:41.380 said

01:53:41.620 I'm

01:53:41.820 not

01:53:41.960 sure

01:53:42.120 how

01:53:42.220 to

01:53:42.320 answer

01:53:42.580 this

01:53:42.880 and

01:53:43.040 so

01:53:44.600 I

01:53:44.760 said

01:53:44.960 well

01:53:45.140 why

01:53:45.440 and

01:53:45.560 he

01:53:45.660 said

01:53:45.820 well

01:53:46.040 after

01:53:46.800 I

01:53:46.960 went

01:53:47.100 through

01:53:47.240 the

01:53:47.380 car

01:53:47.580 windshield

01:53:47.880 I

01:53:48.180 was

01:53:48.300 in

01:53:48.420 a

01:53:48.540 coma

01:53:48.820 for

01:53:49.100 three

01:53:49.700 weeks

01:53:50.060 something

01:53:50.780 like

01:53:51.000 that

01:53:51.220 and

01:53:51.360 I

01:53:51.520 died

01:53:51.960 I

01:53:52.160 think

01:53:52.340 he

01:53:52.460 said

01:53:52.620 he

01:53:52.720 died

01:53:52.940 three

01:53:53.220 times

01:53:53.680 and

01:53:54.800 he

01:53:54.900 said

01:53:55.140 that

01:53:55.320 he

01:53:55.720 could

01:53:55.900 remember

01:53:56.420 he

01:53:57.680 couldn't

01:53:57.860 remember

01:53:58.140 anything

01:53:58.440 during

01:53:58.640 that

01:53:58.800 period

01:53:59.000 of

01:53:59.120 time

01:53:59.260 and

01:53:59.520 he

01:53:59.620 couldn't

01:53:59.840 remember

01:54:00.120 the

01:54:00.260 car

01:54:00.460 accident

01:54:00.760 that's

01:54:01.100 retrograde

01:54:01.600 amnesia

01:54:02.040 it's

01:54:02.180 quite

01:54:02.380 common

01:54:03.160 with

01:54:03.360 head

01:54:03.540 injuries

01:54:03.840 and

01:54:04.580 he

01:54:04.680 said

01:54:04.940 that

01:54:05.200 during

01:54:05.800 one

01:54:06.040 of

01:54:06.180 those

01:54:06.480 experiences

01:54:07.300 and

01:54:07.580 this

01:54:07.700 is

01:54:07.820 all

01:54:07.960 he

01:54:08.080 remembered

01:54:08.460 from

01:54:08.640 the

01:54:08.760 hospital

01:54:09.100 was

01:54:09.360 that

01:54:09.500 he

01:54:09.780 came

01:54:11.560 out

01:54:11.700 of

01:54:11.780 his

01:54:11.920 body

01:54:12.260 and

01:54:12.880 went

01:54:13.580 down

01:54:13.880 the

01:54:14.080 long

01:54:14.340 tunnel

01:54:14.700 of

01:54:14.900 light

01:54:15.160 you've

01:54:15.420 heard

01:54:15.540 these

01:54:15.720 near

01:54:15.880 death

01:54:16.080 experiences

01:54:16.580 and

01:54:16.800 then

01:54:16.960 saw

01:54:17.300 his

01:54:17.600 family

01:54:18.040 members

01:54:18.420 there

01:54:18.700 and

01:54:18.920 saw

01:54:19.880 the

01:54:20.100 heavenly

01:54:20.480 light

01:54:20.880 and

01:54:21.120 then

01:54:21.380 realized

01:54:21.860 that

01:54:22.100 it

01:54:22.320 wasn't

01:54:22.600 his

01:54:22.780 time

01:54:23.120 and

01:54:23.340 came

01:54:23.960 back

01:54:24.220 to

01:54:24.400 his

01:54:24.540 body

01:54:24.880 now

01:54:32.040 volunteered

01:54:32.340 the

01:54:32.520 story

01:54:32.740 and

01:54:32.880 it

01:54:32.980 was

01:54:33.200 instigated

01:54:34.640 by

01:54:35.020 this

01:54:36.020 question

01:54:36.540 and

01:54:37.400 and

01:54:39.060 he

01:54:39.660 didn't

01:54:39.900 know

01:54:40.080 that

01:54:40.240 anybody

01:54:40.500 else

01:54:40.780 had

01:54:40.920 any

01:54:41.080 ever

01:54:41.360 had

01:54:41.560 an

01:54:41.680 experience

01:54:42.060 like

01:54:42.320 that

01:54:42.540 because

01:54:42.740 I

01:54:42.860 asked

01:54:43.240 him

01:54:43.440 if

01:54:43.680 he

01:54:43.760 ever

01:54:43.960 heard

01:54:44.160 anything

01:54:44.420 about

01:54:44.700 like

01:54:45.040 that

01:54:45.260 he

01:54:45.420 said

01:54:45.660 no

01:54:45.960 that

01:54:46.460 was

01:54:46.660 interesting

01:54:47.140 but

01:54:47.640 what

01:54:47.800 really

01:54:48.340 was

01:54:48.600 interesting

01:54:49.040 is

01:54:49.280 how

01:54:49.640 the

01:54:49.760 hell

01:54:49.900 did

01:54:50.020 he

01:54:50.120 remember

01:54:50.460 that

01:54:50.740 right

01:54:52.200 because

01:54:52.540 he

01:54:52.740 had

01:54:52.980 amnesia

01:54:53.820 during

01:54:54.040 that

01:54:54.200 entire

01:54:54.480 period

01:54:54.720 of

01:54:54.840 time

01:54:54.980 he

01:54:55.100 was

01:54:55.220 in

01:54:55.320 a

01:54:55.400 bloody

01:54:55.620 coma

01:54:56.060 he

01:54:56.960 didn't

01:54:57.120 remember

01:54:57.440 anything

01:54:57.940 he

01:54:58.480 remembered

01:54:58.840 that

01:54:59.260 and

01:55:00.440 so

01:55:00.720 well

01:55:02.280 those

01:55:03.500 experiences

01:55:03.940 are more

01:55:04.300 common

01:55:04.580 than you

01:55:04.920 think

01:55:05.220 and

01:55:06.080 then

01:55:06.220 there's

01:55:06.480 a

01:55:06.600 painting

01:55:07.500 of

01:55:07.740 one

01:55:07.940 which

01:55:08.140 is

01:55:08.260 quite

01:55:08.460 interesting

01:55:08.980 and

01:55:09.160 that's

01:55:09.580 like

01:55:09.740 a

01:55:09.880 tunnel

01:55:10.100 to

01:55:10.320 heaven

01:55:10.560 it's

01:55:11.420 the

01:55:11.540 same

01:55:11.720 basic

01:55:12.060 idea

01:55:12.420 it's

01:55:12.840 a

01:55:12.900 little

01:55:13.000 bit

01:55:13.140 more

01:55:13.300 suffering

01:55:13.760 going

01:55:14.020 on

01:55:14.200 in

01:55:14.280 this

01:55:14.440 one

01:55:14.620 I

01:55:14.740 think

01:55:14.960 but

01:55:15.200 that's

01:55:15.680 pretty

01:55:15.840 much

01:55:16.060 typical

01:55:16.480 of

01:55:16.620 Hieronymus

01:55:17.140 Bosch

01:55:17.520 I

01:55:17.640 mean

01:55:17.760 I

01:55:17.960 don't

01:55:18.060 know

01:55:18.160 what

01:55:18.300 was

01:55:18.480 up

01:55:25.400 idea

01:55:25.740 that

01:55:25.980 the

01:55:26.500 world

01:55:26.880 is

01:55:27.100 a

01:55:27.240 tree

01:55:27.500 and

01:55:28.880 I've been

01:55:29.920 thinking

01:55:30.140 about

01:55:30.400 that

01:55:30.600 a

01:55:30.740 lot

01:55:30.940 I

01:55:31.460 think

01:55:31.660 that

01:55:31.900 the

01:55:32.200 tree

01:55:32.460 idea

01:55:32.920 tree

01:55:34.360 is

01:55:34.540 something

01:55:34.800 that

01:55:35.040 is

01:55:36.020 grounded

01:55:36.440 in

01:55:36.780 matter

01:55:38.020 let's

01:55:38.320 say

01:55:38.460 and

01:55:38.560 that

01:55:38.660 reaches

01:55:38.940 up

01:55:39.140 to

01:55:39.280 heaven

01:55:39.500 in

01:55:40.060 the

01:55:40.180 Scandinavian

01:55:40.740 tree

01:55:40.980 at

01:55:41.160 the

01:55:41.260 bottom

01:55:41.480 there's

01:55:41.680 quite

01:55:41.840 a

01:55:41.960 cool

01:55:42.160 idea

01:55:42.460 at

01:55:42.600 the

01:55:42.720 bottom

01:55:42.920 of

01:55:43.020 that

01:55:43.200 see

01:55:43.680 this

01:55:43.900 tree

01:55:44.160 is

01:55:44.340 constantly

01:55:44.760 being

01:55:45.120 gnawed

01:55:45.520 by

01:55:45.740 snakes

01:55:46.220 you

01:55:46.600 can

01:55:46.740 sort

01:55:46.920 of

01:55:47.020 see

01:55:47.140 the

01:55:47.300 snakes

01:55:47.560 at

01:55:47.740 the

01:55:47.860 bottom

01:55:48.100 and

01:55:48.900 at

01:55:49.040 the

01:55:49.180 same

01:55:49.360 time

01:55:49.600 it's

01:55:49.780 being

01:55:49.960 watered

01:55:50.420 and

01:55:50.560 the

01:55:50.960 water

01:55:51.200 makes

01:55:51.460 the

01:55:51.600 tree

01:55:51.780 grow

01:55:52.060 at

01:55:52.240 the

01:55:52.360 same

01:55:52.540 rate

01:55:52.800 that

01:55:52.980 the

01:55:53.140 snakes

01:55:53.480 gnawed

01:55:53.900 its

01:55:54.120 roots

01:55:54.480 so

01:55:55.000 it's

01:55:55.160 like

01:55:55.340 a

01:55:55.480 yin-yang

01:55:55.940 idea

01:55:56.360 you

01:55:56.560 know

01:55:56.700 that

01:55:56.860 there's

01:55:57.160 continual

01:55:57.960 chaotic

01:55:58.500 destruction

01:55:59.080 and

01:55:59.300 replacement

01:55:59.780 at

01:56:00.220 the

01:56:00.380 basis

01:56:00.740 of

01:56:01.000 whatever

01:56:01.260 this

01:56:01.480 process

01:56:01.800 is

01:56:02.120 but

01:56:02.600 the

01:56:02.760 tree

01:56:03.040 seems

01:56:03.380 to

01:56:03.540 me

01:56:03.680 to

01:56:03.780 be

01:56:03.900 a

01:56:04.020 representation

01:56:04.460 not

01:56:04.900 so

01:56:05.080 much

01:56:05.300 of

01:56:05.480 it's

01:56:06.440 like

01:56:06.860 a

01:56:07.400 different

01:56:07.720 dimensional

01:56:08.320 space

01:56:08.940 that's

01:56:09.360 what's

01:56:09.880 trying

01:56:10.120 to

01:56:10.260 be

01:56:10.380 represented

01:56:10.900 so

01:56:11.240 imagine

01:56:11.940 that

01:56:12.200 you

01:56:12.760 know

01:56:12.840 you're

01:56:13.120 structured

01:56:13.660 if

01:56:14.760 you

01:56:14.880 take

01:56:15.100 powers

01:56:15.560 of

01:56:15.760 10

01:56:16.160 magnification

01:56:17.040 say

01:56:17.320 human

01:56:17.600 beings

01:56:17.880 are

01:56:18.020 about

01:56:18.220 in

01:56:18.320 the

01:56:18.440 middle

01:56:18.700 of

01:56:18.920 the

01:56:19.660 tiniest

01:56:20.400 thing

01:56:20.700 and

01:56:20.920 the

01:56:21.040 largest

01:56:21.340 thing

01:56:21.680 if

01:56:21.980 you

01:56:22.080 do

01:56:22.200 it

01:56:22.320 by

01:56:22.560 powers

01:56:23.400 of

01:56:23.560 10

01:56:23.820 and

01:56:24.460 so

01:56:24.660 you

01:56:24.820 know

01:56:24.920 you

01:56:25.080 have

01:56:25.300 a

01:56:25.540 subatomic

01:56:26.740 level

01:56:27.060 and

01:56:27.200 an

01:56:27.340 atomic

01:56:27.680 level

01:56:27.940 and

01:56:28.020 a

01:56:28.140 molecular

01:56:28.480 level

01:56:28.900 and

01:56:29.120 you

01:56:29.520 know

01:56:29.700 then

01:56:30.240 a

01:56:30.460 maybe

01:56:32.380 a

01:56:32.600 level

01:56:32.800 of

01:56:32.960 organs

01:56:33.380 and

01:56:33.660 then

01:56:33.980 there's

01:56:34.240 you

01:56:34.480 and

01:56:34.620 then

01:56:34.740 there's

01:56:34.940 your

01:56:35.080 family

01:56:35.500 and

01:56:35.700 so

01:56:36.060 on

01:56:36.200 all

01:56:36.320 the

01:56:36.400 way

01:56:36.520 up

01:56:36.680 the

01:56:37.480 tree

01:56:37.960 fundamentally

01:56:39.800 and

01:56:40.200 so

01:56:40.300 I

01:56:40.440 think

01:56:40.640 that

01:56:40.800 what

01:56:40.980 this

01:56:41.320 tree

01:56:41.880 represents

01:56:42.360 and

01:56:42.780 this

01:56:42.920 is

01:56:43.040 the

01:56:43.160 thing

01:56:43.380 that

01:56:44.040 the

01:56:44.180 shaman

01:56:44.480 moves

01:56:45.060 up

01:56:45.260 and

01:56:45.360 down

01:56:45.560 I

01:56:45.980 think

01:56:46.140 that's

01:56:46.360 what

01:56:46.460 it

01:56:46.580 represents

01:56:47.080 it's

01:56:47.320 this

01:56:47.520 different

01:56:48.400 view

01:56:48.840 of

01:56:49.240 dimensionality

01:56:51.440 it's

01:56:51.620 something

01:56:51.840 like

01:56:52.060 that

01:56:52.240 and

01:56:52.360 I

01:56:52.480 think

01:56:52.660 that

01:56:52.800 what

01:56:52.920 happens

01:56:53.260 in

01:56:53.400 the

01:56:53.520 psychedelic

01:56:54.040 experience

01:56:54.460 is

01:56:54.660 that

01:56:54.820 consciousness

01:56:55.260 can

01:56:55.600 travel

01:56:55.940 up

01:56:56.180 and

01:56:56.300 down

01:56:56.500 that

01:56:56.740 structure

01:56:57.220 it's

01:56:57.880 something

01:56:58.080 like

01:56:58.300 that

01:56:58.460 and

01:56:58.580 maybe

01:56:58.840 not

01:56:59.340 only

01:56:59.560 up

01:56:59.900 and

01:57:00.000 down

01:57:00.180 it

01:57:00.300 but

01:57:00.420 maybe

01:57:00.640 right

01:57:00.940 through

01:57:01.420 it

01:57:01.680 I

01:57:02.800 know

01:57:02.980 that's

01:57:03.200 a

01:57:03.320 radical

01:57:03.620 claim

01:57:04.060 it's

01:57:04.640 a

01:57:04.740 really

01:57:04.940 radical

01:57:05.300 claim

01:57:05.640 and

01:57:06.000 it

01:57:06.100 might

01:57:06.520 be

01:57:06.680 wrong

01:57:07.040 but

01:57:07.820 it's

01:57:08.320 probably

01:57:15.980 but

01:57:20.100 I'm

01:57:20.220 not

01:57:20.400 so

01:57:20.580 sure

01:57:20.760 it's

01:57:20.960 wrong

01:57:21.340 and

01:57:23.940 here's

01:57:24.160 something

01:57:24.360 cool

01:57:24.720 so

01:57:26.400 that's

01:57:26.620 the

01:57:26.740 Scandinavian

01:57:27.320 world

01:57:27.580 tree

01:57:27.840 and

01:57:28.040 that

01:57:28.380 was

01:57:28.680 drawn

01:57:29.600 by

01:57:30.780 an

01:57:30.900 anthropologist

01:57:31.500 who

01:57:31.840 visited

01:57:32.480 the

01:57:32.720 tribes

01:57:33.100 in

01:57:33.460 the

01:57:33.560 Amazon

01:57:33.800 who

01:57:34.040 use

01:57:34.240 ayahuasca

01:57:34.820 now

01:57:40.440 you

01:57:41.000 see

01:57:41.200 it's

01:57:41.580 a

01:57:41.700 snake

01:57:42.020 it's

01:57:42.640 a

01:57:42.740 tree

01:57:42.860 with

01:57:43.060 snakes

01:57:43.500 well

01:57:44.380 you

01:57:44.620 know

01:57:44.720 that's

01:57:45.060 reminiscent

01:57:45.500 of

01:57:46.200 the

01:57:46.360 story

01:57:46.600 in

01:57:47.000 Adam

01:57:47.180 and

01:57:47.300 Eve

01:57:47.500 obviously

01:57:47.960 but

01:57:48.180 it's

01:57:48.320 also

01:57:48.540 reminiscent

01:57:48.980 of

01:57:49.240 our

01:57:49.460 primate

01:57:50.440 dwelling

01:57:50.860 place

01:57:51.280 right

01:57:51.500 because

01:57:51.780 that

01:57:52.060 was

01:57:52.220 basically

01:57:52.660 our

01:57:52.960 ancestral

01:57:53.500 home

01:57:53.880 a

01:57:54.340 tree

01:57:54.720 surrounded

01:57:55.880 by

01:57:56.140 snakes

01:57:56.540 and

01:57:56.900 the

01:57:57.020 snakes

01:57:57.300 like

01:57:57.660 to

01:57:57.820 eat

01:57:58.000 us

01:57:58.200 and

01:57:58.320 this

01:57:58.480 is

01:57:58.580 a

01:57:58.700 long

01:57:58.960 time

01:57:59.220 ago

01:57:59.440 this

01:57:59.660 is

01:57:59.800 like

01:58:00.000 50

01:58:01.720 billion

01:58:02.020 years

01:58:02.340 ago

01:58:02.620 it's

01:58:03.280 really

01:58:03.660 a

01:58:03.860 long

01:58:04.080 time

01:58:04.400 ago

01:58:04.680 and

01:58:05.400 so

01:58:05.640 we

01:58:06.120 don't

01:58:06.300 know

01:58:06.620 where

01:58:07.340 these

01:58:07.560 images

01:58:07.840 come

01:58:08.160 from

01:58:08.400 precisely

01:58:08.920 but

01:58:09.620 I

01:58:09.740 do

01:58:09.960 have

01:58:10.500 the suspicion

01:58:11.140 that

01:58:11.500 we

01:58:13.380 used

01:58:13.740 the

01:58:13.960 circuitry

01:58:14.480 that

01:58:14.740 we

01:58:15.760 developed

01:58:16.200 to

01:58:16.460 detect

01:58:16.900 snakes

01:58:17.380 to

01:58:18.260 represent

01:58:18.760 the

01:58:19.040 unknown

01:58:19.440 as

01:58:19.760 such

01:58:20.200 because

01:58:20.600 like

01:58:21.580 a snake

01:58:22.000 is

01:58:22.160 something

01:58:22.360 that

01:58:22.540 comes

01:58:22.740 out

01:58:22.920 of

01:58:23.000 the

01:58:23.140 unknown

01:58:23.480 and

01:58:24.040 like

01:58:24.460 we

01:58:24.640 evolved

01:58:25.160 right

01:58:25.340 we

01:58:25.480 evolved

01:58:26.060 out

01:58:26.260 of

01:58:26.400 an

01:58:26.580 animal

01:58:26.880 substructure

01:58:27.620 and

01:58:28.260 so

01:58:28.460 we

01:58:28.960 had

01:58:29.160 to

01:58:29.280 get

01:58:29.480 our

01:58:29.860 our

01:58:30.980 biological

01:58:31.680 cognitive

01:58:32.220 structure

01:58:32.680 from

01:58:32.960 somewhere

01:58:33.420 and

01:58:33.720 we

01:58:34.060 have

01:58:34.220 this

01:58:34.380 capacity

01:58:34.800 of

01:58:34.980 thinking

01:58:35.200 about

01:58:35.460 the

01:58:35.620 absolute

01:58:36.100 unknown

01:58:36.520 and

01:58:36.680 the

01:58:36.820 terrors

01:58:37.300 that

01:58:37.560 are

01:58:37.960 involved

01:58:38.380 in

01:58:38.540 that

01:58:38.780 horrors

01:58:39.600 that

01:58:39.760 can

01:58:39.920 emerge

01:58:40.260 from

01:58:40.440 what

01:58:40.580 we

01:58:40.700 don't

01:58:40.880 understand

01:58:41.380 and

01:58:41.540 it

01:58:42.040 stands

01:58:42.360 perfectly

01:58:42.800 to

01:58:42.960 reason

01:58:43.240 that

01:58:43.440 we

01:58:43.560 would

01:58:43.740 use

01:58:44.080 circuits

01:58:45.400 that

01:58:45.600 were

01:58:45.720 already

01:58:45.980 pre-developed

01:58:46.620 for

01:58:46.760 that

01:58:47.020 and

01:58:47.460 that

01:58:47.600 this

01:58:47.760 is

01:58:47.880 a

01:58:48.080 reasonable

01:58:48.520 representation

01:58:49.300 of

01:58:49.720 the

01:58:49.900 existential

01:58:50.700 structure

01:58:51.280 of

01:58:51.480 the

01:58:51.600 world

01:58:51.920 so

01:58:53.200 and

01:58:55.520 I

01:58:55.620 think

01:58:55.800 I

01:58:55.920 might

01:58:56.060 have

01:58:56.160 showed

01:58:56.360 you

01:58:56.460 this

01:58:56.640 before

01:58:57.020 but

01:58:57.300 it

01:58:59.060 never

01:58:59.300 ceases

01:58:59.680 to

01:58:59.900 amaze

01:59:00.240 me

01:59:00.400 this

01:59:00.680 picture

01:59:01.940 so

01:59:02.340 my

01:59:03.220 son

01:59:03.460 drew

01:59:03.580 this

01:59:03.800 when

01:59:03.940 he

01:59:04.020 was

01:59:04.180 nine

01:59:04.540 eight

01:59:04.960 and

01:59:05.840 so

01:59:06.040 on

01:59:06.440 the

01:59:06.540 right

01:59:06.760 you

01:59:06.960 see

01:59:07.120 mushroom

01:59:07.480 houses

01:59:07.820 and

01:59:08.740 they

01:59:09.480 have

01:59:09.640 the

01:59:09.780 names

01:59:10.040 of

01:59:10.200 all

01:59:10.360 his

01:59:10.560 friends

01:59:11.040 on

01:59:11.520 them

01:59:11.720 and

01:59:12.500 so

01:59:12.700 that's

01:59:13.020 order

01:59:13.400 right

01:59:14.040 and

01:59:14.200 then

01:59:14.400 on

01:59:14.740 the

01:59:14.860 left

01:59:15.080 side

01:59:15.400 you

01:59:15.540 see

01:59:15.760 chaos

01:59:16.680 there

01:59:16.960 and

01:59:17.120 that

01:59:17.440 little

01:59:17.600 orange

01:59:17.840 thing

01:59:18.020 is

01:59:18.140 a

01:59:18.320 bug

01:59:18.600 and

01:59:19.500 then

01:59:19.620 there's

01:59:19.800 a

01:59:19.920 river

01:59:20.140 that

01:59:20.340 runs

01:59:20.580 right

01:59:20.780 down

01:59:20.960 the

01:59:21.100 middle

01:59:21.340 and

01:59:21.560 so

01:59:21.680 that's

01:59:21.940 like

01:59:22.140 the

01:59:22.400 yin

01:59:24.160 yang

01:59:24.440 symbol

01:59:24.820 with

01:59:25.080 the

01:59:25.320 divide

01:59:26.000 in

01:59:26.120 the

01:59:26.220 middle

01:59:26.440 that's

01:59:27.100 quite

01:59:27.300 cool

01:59:27.540 and

01:59:27.700 then

01:59:27.860 there

01:59:28.400 it

01:59:28.520 is

01:59:28.700 there's

01:59:29.000 Jacob's

01:59:29.420 ladder

01:59:29.660 it's

01:59:30.780 like

01:59:30.920 jack

01:59:31.140 and

01:59:31.220 the

01:59:31.300 beanstalk

01:59:31.760 which

01:59:31.960 is

01:59:32.120 by

01:59:32.280 the

01:59:32.380 way

01:59:32.540 another

01:59:32.840 variant

01:59:33.780 of

01:59:34.000 the

01:59:34.160 same

01:59:34.420 shamanic

01:59:34.940 story

01:59:35.280 and

01:59:36.180 there

01:59:36.400 are

01:59:36.520 bugs

01:59:36.780 going

01:59:37.040 up

01:59:37.220 and

01:59:37.340 down

01:59:37.560 it

01:59:37.740 and

01:59:38.060 they're

01:59:38.540 taking

01:59:39.200 messages

01:59:39.620 from

01:59:39.980 heaven

01:59:40.300 and

01:59:40.940 then

01:59:41.120 up

01:59:41.420 there

01:59:41.600 in

01:59:41.740 heaven

01:59:42.040 it's

01:59:43.160 got

01:59:43.340 the

01:59:43.520 sun

01:59:43.720 and

01:59:43.860 there's

01:59:44.200 St.

01:59:44.720 Peter

01:59:44.960 and

01:59:45.640 I

01:59:45.820 don't

01:59:46.000 know

01:59:46.160 where

01:59:46.420 in

01:59:46.620 the

01:59:46.720 world

01:59:46.900 he

01:59:47.060 got

01:59:47.320 this

01:59:47.560 it's

01:59:47.720 not

01:59:47.880 like

01:59:57.300 a

01:59:57.420 very

01:59:57.620 well

01:59:57.940 ordered

01:59:58.320 psyche

01:59:58.800 I

01:59:59.060 would

01:59:59.220 say

01:59:59.500 and

01:59:59.720 still

02:00:00.320 does

02:00:00.740 but

02:00:01.020 when

02:00:01.780 he

02:00:01.880 drew

02:00:02.040 that

02:00:02.240 it

02:00:02.360 just

02:00:02.520 absolutely

02:00:03.100 blew

02:00:03.400 me

02:00:03.580 away

02:00:03.920 and

02:00:04.200 so

02:00:04.320 I

02:00:04.440 had

02:00:04.620 it

02:00:04.760 laminated

02:00:05.680 and

02:00:05.900 it's

02:00:06.080 in

02:00:06.180 my

02:00:06.360 office

02:00:06.780 because

02:00:07.680 well

02:00:08.900 I

02:00:09.080 don't

02:00:09.180 know

02:00:09.360 because

02:00:09.680 like

02:00:09.900 what

02:00:10.060 the

02:00:10.220 hell

02:00:10.360 do

02:00:10.480 you

02:00:10.560 make

02:00:10.760 of

02:00:10.900 that

02:00:11.220 you

02:00:11.400 know

02:00:11.560 that's

02:00:11.960 that's

02:00:12.360 why

02:00:12.780 so

02:00:13.960 well

02:00:25.920 you

02:00:26.040 sort

02:00:26.200 of

02:00:26.280 get

02:00:26.400 the

02:00:26.540 picture

02:00:26.820 there

02:00:27.140 you

02:00:27.300 know

02:00:27.420 the

02:00:27.600 cathedrals

02:00:28.120 the

02:00:28.300 great

02:00:28.500 cathedrals

02:00:29.000 of

02:00:29.240 Europe

02:00:29.500 are

02:00:29.840 they're

02:00:31.660 like

02:00:31.880 the

02:00:32.460 forest

02:00:32.820 in

02:00:33.040 stone

02:00:33.480 right

02:00:33.800 and

02:00:34.000 they

02:00:34.560 try

02:00:34.760 to

02:00:34.880 represent

02:00:35.260 the

02:00:35.640 light

02:00:36.420 coming

02:00:36.720 through

02:00:36.900 the

02:00:37.060 leaves

02:00:37.460 and

02:00:37.680 so

02:00:37.840 it's

02:00:38.040 sort

02:00:38.240 of

02:00:38.340 our

02:00:38.540 ancestral

02:00:39.080 forest

02:00:39.620 home

02:00:39.900 but

02:00:40.080 it's

02:00:40.780 it's

02:00:41.020 transformed

02:00:41.440 into

02:00:41.820 these

02:00:42.080 great

02:00:42.340 sculptures

02:00:42.780 of

02:00:43.060 stone

02:00:43.500 and

02:00:43.760 you

02:00:44.560 know

02:00:44.660 they

02:00:44.980 produce

02:00:45.340 awe

02:00:45.640 because

02:00:45.960 of

02:00:46.180 the

02:00:46.400 combination

02:00:46.980 of

02:00:47.200 light

02:00:47.460 and

02:00:47.700 darkness

02:00:48.140 and

02:00:48.400 color

02:00:48.700 but

02:00:49.400 also

02:00:49.660 I

02:00:49.840 think

02:00:49.960 for

02:00:50.100 the

02:00:50.240 same

02:00:50.400 reason

02:00:50.640 that

02:00:50.800 huge

02:00:51.180 trees

02:00:51.800 produce

02:00:52.300 awe

02:00:52.700 in

02:00:52.860 people

02:00:53.200 you

02:00:53.340 know

02:00:53.440 we

02:00:53.620 don't

02:00:53.740 want

02:00:53.920 them

02:00:54.040 cut

02:00:54.280 down

02:00:54.580 they

02:00:54.780 seem

02:00:55.160 sacred

02:00:55.580 in

02:00:55.780 some

02:00:56.000 sense

02:00:56.380 and

02:00:56.600 perhaps

02:00:57.460 they

02:00:57.700 are

02:00:57.980 but

02:00:58.860 you know

02:01:01.180 it also

02:01:02.020 seemed

02:01:02.320 to me

02:01:02.680 this is

02:01:03.420 an

02:01:03.560 intuition

02:01:03.980 that

02:01:04.280 the

02:01:05.180 architects

02:01:06.580 of these

02:01:07.060 great

02:01:07.320 cathedrals

02:01:07.760 were

02:01:07.920 trying

02:01:08.200 to

02:01:08.360 get

02:01:08.620 they're

02:01:09.600 trying

02:01:09.740 to

02:01:09.860 express

02:01:10.260 something

02:01:10.620 that's

02:01:10.900 deep

02:01:11.380 and

02:01:11.640 structural

02:01:12.240 they're

02:01:13.120 trying

02:01:13.560 to

02:01:14.120 express

02:01:14.500 the

02:01:14.700 idea

02:01:14.940 that

02:01:15.100 if

02:01:15.280 being

02:01:15.540 was

02:01:15.740 constituted

02:01:16.440 properly

02:01:16.960 then

02:01:17.880 it

02:01:18.540 would

02:01:18.660 be

02:01:18.820 organized

02:01:19.260 from

02:01:20.640 level

02:01:20.880 all

02:01:21.480 the

02:01:21.560 way

02:01:21.700 up

02:01:21.860 to

02:01:22.000 the

02:01:22.140 highest

02:01:22.560 cosmic

02:01:23.200 level

02:01:23.620 perfectly

02:01:24.460 so

02:01:24.740 every

02:01:24.980 layer

02:01:25.340 stacked

02:01:26.140 on top

02:01:26.560 of

02:01:26.700 each

02:01:26.860 other

02:01:27.000 without

02:01:27.200 any

02:01:27.520 contradictions

02:01:28.520 and

02:01:28.720 that

02:01:28.860 would

02:01:29.200 be

02:01:29.360 an

02:01:29.540 ideal

02:01:30.100 mode

02:01:30.860 of

02:01:30.980 being

02:01:31.200 and

02:01:31.340 everything

02:01:31.580 would

02:01:31.780 come

02:01:32.040 together

02:01:32.540 under

02:01:33.080 those

02:01:33.360 circumstances

02:01:33.980 and

02:01:34.280 that's

02:01:34.900 what's

02:01:35.080 being

02:01:35.260 expressed

02:01:35.820 in

02:01:36.040 these

02:01:36.220 cathedrals

02:01:36.720 it's

02:01:36.940 not

02:01:37.120 all

02:01:37.320 that's

02:01:37.560 being

02:01:37.740 expressed

02:01:38.160 because

02:01:38.440 they're

02:01:38.640 also

02:01:38.860 shaped

02:01:39.240 like

02:01:39.420 a

02:01:39.580 cross

02:01:39.960 and

02:01:40.180 you

02:01:40.740 know

02:01:40.840 the

02:01:40.980 idea

02:01:41.300 is

02:01:41.560 that

02:01:41.780 the

02:01:42.280 center

02:01:42.560 of

02:01:42.720 the

02:01:50.640 so

02:01:51.420 then

02:01:57.640 there's

02:01:57.820 the

02:01:57.960 tree

02:01:58.160 like

02:01:58.460 structures

02:01:59.680 that

02:01:59.880 make

02:02:00.100 us

02:02:00.360 up

02:02:00.620 it

02:02:02.800 stretched

02:02:03.160 down

02:02:03.460 to

02:02:03.620 the

02:02:03.980 tiniest

02:02:05.320 realities

02:02:08.100 the

02:02:08.440 microcosm

02:02:10.060 and

02:02:16.160 there's

02:02:16.380 this

02:02:16.700 idea

02:02:17.760 it's

02:02:17.940 all

02:02:18.100 represented

02:02:18.640 in the

02:02:19.000 same

02:02:19.200 way

02:02:19.400 again

02:02:19.700 it's

02:02:19.880 this

02:02:20.060 idea

02:02:20.300 especially

02:02:20.680 the

02:02:20.900 mandala

02:02:21.380 up

02:02:21.640 in

02:02:21.760 the

02:02:22.100 top

02:02:22.660 right

02:02:22.940 it's

02:02:23.160 the

02:02:23.280 idea

02:02:23.620 of

02:02:23.860 this

02:02:24.580 perfection

02:02:25.140 of

02:02:25.420 crystalline

02:02:26.140 structure

02:02:26.680 and

02:02:27.000 that's

02:02:27.720 what

02:02:27.860 the

02:02:28.040 yogis

02:02:28.400 are

02:02:28.540 trying

02:02:28.760 to

02:02:28.920 attain

02:02:29.260 when

02:02:29.440 they

02:02:29.600 organize

02:02:30.060 their

02:02:30.280 bodies

02:02:30.580 they're

02:02:30.780 trying

02:02:30.960 to get

02:02:31.180 every

02:02:31.580 single

02:02:32.000 layer

02:02:32.400 of

02:02:32.660 their

02:02:32.820 being

02:02:33.320 aligned

02:02:34.120 properly

02:02:34.620 and

02:02:34.920 it's

02:02:35.100 something

02:02:35.320 like

02:02:35.660 you can

02:02:36.560 kind

02:02:36.780 of

02:02:36.900 see

02:02:37.140 an

02:02:37.420 echo

02:02:37.640 of

02:02:37.840 that

02:02:38.080 in

02:02:38.280 the

02:02:38.460 I

02:02:38.860 think

02:02:39.120 that's

02:02:39.680 a

02:02:39.800 Tibetan

02:02:40.180 sand

02:02:41.020 painting

02:02:41.400 if I

02:02:41.740 remember

02:02:42.060 correctly

02:02:42.580 on

02:02:43.340 the bottom

02:02:44.120 left

02:02:50.060 that's

02:02:50.660 you

02:02:51.040 without

02:02:51.920 impediment

02:02:54.760 something

02:02:55.280 like that

02:02:55.920 and that

02:02:56.540 would be

02:02:56.760 like a

02:02:57.080 state

02:02:57.300 of

02:02:57.420 optimal

02:02:57.820 health

02:02:58.320 and that

02:02:59.320 both

02:03:00.720 physical

02:03:01.080 and

02:03:01.340 spiritual

02:03:01.700 exercises

02:03:02.280 can put

02:03:02.740 you

02:03:02.900 in

02:03:03.040 that

02:03:03.220 state

02:03:03.600 and

02:03:04.400 that's

02:03:04.760 well

02:03:05.480 those

02:03:05.700 are

02:03:05.820 all

02:03:06.000 clouds

02:03:06.340 of

02:03:06.500 ideas

02:03:06.820 that

02:03:07.060 surround

02:03:07.360 this

02:03:07.560 idea

02:03:07.860 of

02:03:07.960 a

02:03:08.080 ladder

02:03:08.260 to

02:03:08.480 heaven

02:03:08.780 so

02:03:11.180 Jacob

02:03:11.660 is

02:03:13.300 talking

02:03:13.620 to

02:03:13.820 God

02:03:14.100 and

02:03:14.280 God

02:03:14.540 says

02:03:14.820 behold

02:03:15.160 I

02:03:15.340 am

02:03:15.460 with

02:03:15.660 thee

02:03:15.840 and

02:03:16.900 I

02:03:16.980 will

02:03:17.080 keep

02:03:17.320 thee

02:03:17.500 in

02:03:17.620 all

02:03:17.760 places

02:03:18.120 where

02:03:18.480 you

02:03:18.640 go

02:03:18.860 and

02:03:19.040 bring

02:03:19.300 you

02:03:19.480 again

02:03:19.780 into

02:03:19.960 this

02:03:20.160 land

02:03:20.380 for

02:03:20.520 I

02:03:20.640 won't

02:03:20.900 leave

02:03:21.140 you

02:03:21.340 until

02:03:21.880 I

02:03:22.040 have

02:03:22.140 done

02:03:22.320 that

02:03:22.500 which

02:03:22.700 I

02:03:22.820 have

02:03:22.940 spoken

02:03:23.240 to

02:03:23.440 you

02:03:23.580 of

02:03:23.780 and

02:03:24.340 Jacob

02:03:24.660 awakened

02:03:25.260 out

02:03:25.460 of

02:03:25.560 his

02:03:25.700 sleep

02:03:26.060 and

02:03:28.080 he

02:03:28.180 said

02:03:28.400 surely

02:03:28.660 the

02:03:28.840 Lord

02:03:29.020 is

02:03:29.200 in

02:03:29.320 this

02:03:29.500 place

02:03:29.800 and

02:03:29.940 I

02:03:30.060 knew

02:03:30.220 it

02:03:30.340 not

02:03:30.580 and

02:03:30.740 he

02:03:30.840 was

02:03:30.960 afraid

02:03:31.300 and said

02:03:31.640 how dreadful

02:03:32.300 is

02:03:32.480 this

02:03:32.700 place

02:03:33.080 this

02:03:34.040 is

02:03:34.200 none

02:03:34.380 other

02:03:34.560 but

02:03:34.740 the

02:03:34.880 house

02:03:35.080 of

02:03:35.240 God

02:03:35.500 and

02:03:35.640 this

02:03:35.800 is

02:03:36.020 the

02:03:36.200 gate

02:03:36.440 of

02:03:36.600 heaven

02:03:36.920 and

02:03:38.420 Jacob

02:03:38.700 rose

02:03:38.980 up

02:03:39.160 early

02:03:39.340 in

02:03:39.460 the

02:03:39.560 morning

02:03:39.760 and

02:03:39.920 took

02:03:40.040 the

02:03:40.200 stone

02:03:40.460 that

02:03:40.600 he

02:03:40.700 had

02:03:40.800 put

02:03:40.960 for

02:03:41.120 his

02:03:41.260 pillows

02:03:41.560 and

02:03:41.780 set

02:03:41.960 it

02:03:42.060 up

02:03:42.160 for

02:03:42.280 a

02:03:42.400 pillar

02:03:42.600 and

02:03:43.080 poured

02:03:43.300 oil

02:03:43.740 on

02:03:44.000 top

02:03:44.240 of

02:03:44.360 it

02:03:44.480 that's

02:03:45.020 a

02:03:45.140 sacrifice

02:03:45.680 and

02:03:47.100 he

02:03:47.240 called

02:03:47.440 the name

02:03:47.700 of

02:03:47.800 that

02:03:47.920 place

02:03:48.180 Bethel

02:03:48.620 but

02:03:48.820 the

02:03:48.960 name

02:03:49.120 of

02:03:49.220 the

02:03:49.360 city

02:03:49.540 was

02:03:49.740 called

02:03:50.000 Luz

02:03:50.320 at

02:03:50.520 the

02:03:50.680 first

02:03:50.980 and

02:03:51.200 Jacob

02:03:51.640 vowed

02:03:52.140 a

02:03:52.300 vow

02:03:52.560 saying

02:03:52.980 if

02:03:53.460 God

02:03:53.820 will

02:03:53.980 be

02:03:54.120 with

02:03:54.340 me

02:03:54.480 and

02:03:54.580 will

02:03:54.720 keep

02:03:54.940 me

02:03:55.100 in

02:03:55.220 this

02:03:55.380 way

02:03:55.560 that

02:03:55.740 I

02:03:55.860 go

02:03:56.080 and

02:03:56.500 will

02:03:56.620 give

02:03:56.760 me

02:03:56.880 bread

02:03:57.200 to

02:03:57.400 eat

02:03:57.600 and

02:03:57.780 raiment

02:03:58.060 to

02:03:58.280 put

02:03:58.460 on

02:03:58.740 so

02:03:59.840 that

02:03:59.960 I

02:04:00.080 come

02:04:00.260 again

02:04:00.460 to

02:04:00.580 my

02:04:00.740 father's

02:04:01.100 house

02:04:01.280 in

02:04:01.460 peace

02:04:01.740 then

02:04:01.960 shall

02:04:02.200 the

02:04:02.360 Lord

02:04:02.560 be

02:04:02.780 my

02:04:03.020 God

02:04:03.360 and

02:04:04.040 this

02:04:04.220 stone

02:04:04.600 which

02:04:04.840 I

02:04:04.960 have

02:04:05.060 set

02:04:05.220 for

02:04:05.400 a

02:04:05.540 pillar

02:04:05.740 shall

02:04:06.000 be

02:04:06.160 God's

02:04:06.520 house

02:04:06.800 and

02:04:07.300 of

02:04:07.480 all

02:04:07.660 of

02:04:07.800 that

02:04:08.020 that

02:04:08.240 is

02:04:08.800 given

02:04:09.060 to

02:04:09.260 me

02:04:09.380 I

02:04:09.540 will

02:04:09.740 surely

02:04:10.120 give

02:04:10.520 the

02:04:11.120 tenth

02:04:11.400 unto

02:04:11.740 thee

02:04:12.040 and

02:04:14.120 that's

02:04:14.340 a

02:04:14.420 pretty

02:04:14.560 good

02:04:14.760 place

02:04:15.120 to

02:04:15.320 stop

02:04:15.800 so

02:04:17.660 now

02:04:18.120 I'll

02:04:18.540 just

02:04:18.780 conclude

02:04:21.740 so

02:04:22.380 you have

02:04:23.760 this

02:04:24.000 very

02:04:24.420 morally

02:04:24.800 ambivalent

02:04:25.400 character

02:04:25.860 right

02:04:26.200 who's

02:04:26.680 so far

02:04:27.560 pretty much

02:04:28.320 everything

02:04:28.680 he's done

02:04:29.300 that we're

02:04:30.000 familiar with

02:04:30.780 is not

02:04:31.160 good

02:04:31.480 so

02:04:32.160 he's

02:04:32.500 he's

02:04:33.020 betrayed

02:04:33.360 his

02:04:33.600 brother

02:04:33.840 horribly

02:04:34.300 twice

02:04:34.780 badly

02:04:35.240 enough

02:04:35.540 so

02:04:35.760 that

02:04:35.920 he

02:04:36.100 his

02:04:36.540 brother

02:04:36.740 wants

02:04:37.000 to

02:04:37.200 kill

02:04:37.500 him

02:04:37.700 and

02:04:38.320 everyone

02:04:38.760 can

02:04:39.000 kind

02:04:39.220 of

02:04:39.340 sympathize

02:04:39.840 with

02:04:40.020 his

02:04:40.200 brother

02:04:40.520 so

02:04:41.640 and

02:04:42.140 then

02:04:42.400 he

02:04:42.520 runs

02:04:42.780 away

02:04:43.120 essentially

02:04:43.680 because

02:04:44.340 his

02:04:44.520 mother

02:04:44.700 tells

02:04:45.060 him

02:04:45.200 to

02:04:45.420 which

02:04:45.660 is

02:04:45.820 not

02:04:46.060 exactly

02:04:46.520 a

02:04:46.720 testament

02:04:47.000 to

02:04:47.260 his

02:04:47.440 character

02:04:47.820 and

02:04:48.400 despite

02:04:48.860 that

02:04:49.480 strangely

02:04:51.160 enough

02:04:51.620 he

02:04:51.800 has

02:04:52.000 this

02:04:52.220 experience

02:04:52.900 you know

02:04:54.040 and

02:04:54.220 that's

02:04:54.660 heartening

02:04:56.040 I guess

02:04:56.940 and that's

02:04:57.980 the point

02:04:58.380 is that

02:04:58.800 people are

02:05:01.240 predisposed

02:05:01.940 to

02:05:02.300 terrible

02:05:03.020 error

02:05:03.500 there's

02:05:04.020 no doubt

02:05:04.440 about

02:05:04.680 that

02:05:05.080 and

02:05:05.800 yet

02:05:06.080 when

02:05:08.320 I was

02:05:08.680 writing

02:05:09.320 my latest

02:05:10.000 book

02:05:10.280 I had

02:05:10.560 a friend

02:05:10.880 of

02:05:11.040 mine

02:05:11.320 Norman

02:05:12.600 Doidge

02:05:12.980 wrote

02:05:13.260 the

02:05:13.540 foreword

02:05:14.280 and

02:05:15.060 Norm

02:05:15.420 has

02:05:15.540 written

02:05:15.740 a couple

02:05:16.080 of

02:05:16.220 great

02:05:16.460 books

02:05:16.760 and

02:05:16.960 he's

02:05:17.480 Jewish

02:05:17.880 and

02:05:18.880 he

02:05:19.880 read

02:05:20.160 some

02:05:20.460 of

02:05:20.560 what

02:05:20.700 I'd

02:05:20.880 written

02:05:21.300 and

02:05:21.480 he

02:05:21.660 took

02:05:22.060 me

02:05:22.220 to

02:05:22.340 task

02:05:22.700 for

02:05:22.900 making

02:05:23.240 the

02:05:24.060 God

02:05:24.320 of

02:05:24.460 the

02:05:24.580 Old

02:05:24.780 Testament

02:05:25.200 you know

02:05:25.700 from a

02:05:25.980 Christian

02:05:26.240 perspective

02:05:26.740 too harsh

02:05:27.660 and unforgiving

02:05:28.500 and

02:05:29.340 and

02:05:29.360 I

02:05:30.780 rewrote

02:05:31.200 a fair

02:05:31.460 bit

02:05:31.660 of it

02:05:31.860 because

02:05:32.120 of

02:05:32.300 his

02:05:32.440 criticism

02:05:32.900 and

02:05:33.280 because

02:05:33.540 of

02:05:33.660 what

02:05:33.760 I've

02:05:33.920 learned

02:05:34.100 doing

02:05:34.480 these

02:05:34.680 lectures

02:05:35.040 it's

02:05:35.280 like

02:05:35.480 it's

02:05:36.140 not

02:05:36.320 exactly

02:05:36.820 right

02:05:37.200 you know

02:05:37.520 I mean

02:05:37.840 what happens

02:05:38.920 in the

02:05:39.120 Old Testament

02:05:39.600 is if

02:05:40.000 you

02:05:40.280 screw

02:05:40.680 up

02:05:41.020 especially

02:05:41.540 if

02:05:41.700 you

02:05:41.820 know

02:05:42.080 you

02:05:42.280 do

02:05:42.440 and

02:05:42.840 you

02:05:43.020 decide

02:05:43.440 that

02:05:43.580 you're

02:05:43.700 not

02:05:43.860 going

02:05:44.040 to

02:05:44.160 do

02:05:44.280 anything

02:05:44.500 about

02:05:44.780 it

02:05:44.900 so

02:05:45.040 it's

02:05:45.220 conscious

02:05:45.660 and

02:05:45.980 deliberate

02:05:46.400 then

02:05:47.240 like

02:05:47.520 look

02:05:48.200 the

02:05:48.400 hell

02:05:48.600 out

02:05:48.820 you

02:05:49.020 are

02:05:49.180 in

02:05:49.300 serious

02:05:49.640 trouble

02:05:58.500 doing

02:05:58.680 this

02:05:58.920 is

02:05:59.040 actually

02:05:59.320 in

02:05:59.440 the

02:05:59.560 gospel

02:05:59.880 of

02:06:00.100 Thomas

02:06:00.540 as

02:06:00.760 well

02:06:01.080 interestingly

02:06:01.820 enough

02:06:02.120 is

02:06:02.240 one

02:06:02.400 of

02:06:02.460 the

02:06:02.580 Gnostic

02:06:03.140 gospels

02:06:03.620 Christ

02:06:03.940 tells

02:06:04.260 his

02:06:04.460 followers

02:06:04.800 something

02:06:05.200 like

02:06:05.540 if

02:06:06.360 you

02:06:06.460 make

02:06:06.620 a

02:06:06.720 mistake

02:06:07.020 and

02:06:07.160 you

02:06:07.260 don't

02:06:07.440 know

02:06:07.540 what

02:06:07.680 you're

02:06:07.820 doing

02:06:08.080 then

02:06:08.360 you'll

02:06:08.740 be

02:06:08.900 forgiven

02:06:09.260 for

02:06:09.560 it

02:06:09.740 but

02:06:10.400 if

02:06:10.520 you

02:06:10.640 make

02:06:10.820 a

02:06:10.900 mistake

02:06:11.200 knowing

02:06:11.640 what

02:06:11.860 you're

02:06:12.000 doing

02:06:12.340 and

02:06:13.360 you

02:06:13.460 do

02:06:13.580 it

02:06:13.680 anyways

02:06:14.040 then

02:06:14.320 like

02:06:14.780 good

02:06:15.420 luck

02:06:15.560 to

02:06:15.720 you

02:06:15.980 and

02:06:16.820 and

02:06:17.620 I

02:06:17.880 think

02:06:18.380 that's

02:06:18.880 that's

02:06:20.380 psychologically

02:06:28.500 of the

02:06:28.700 things

02:06:28.900 that's

02:06:29.060 very

02:06:29.280 interesting

02:06:29.680 about

02:06:29.980 the

02:06:30.380 judgmental

02:06:31.100 God

02:06:31.360 in

02:06:31.580 the

02:06:31.720 Old

02:06:31.860 Testament

02:06:32.240 however

02:06:32.740 is

02:06:33.080 that

02:06:33.320 he

02:06:33.960 can

02:06:34.340 be

02:06:34.520 bargained

02:06:34.820 with

02:06:35.140 and

02:06:35.680 even

02:06:36.020 if

02:06:36.220 you

02:06:36.420 make

02:06:36.880 mistakes

02:06:37.460 especially

02:06:38.900 if

02:06:39.080 you're

02:06:39.200 unconscious

02:06:39.640 of

02:06:39.900 them

02:06:40.000 if

02:06:40.140 you

02:06:40.240 haven't

02:06:40.480 learned

02:06:40.820 yet

02:06:41.080 let's

02:06:41.400 say

02:06:41.600 then

02:06:42.260 you

02:06:43.620 always

02:06:44.100 have

02:06:44.300 the

02:06:44.440 opportunity

02:06:44.860 to

02:06:45.180 return

02:06:45.500 to

02:06:45.660 the

02:06:45.780 proper

02:06:46.040 path

02:06:46.540 and

02:06:47.480 that's

02:06:47.780 people

02:06:48.080 get

02:06:48.280 cynical

02:06:48.580 about

02:06:48.860 that

02:06:49.060 because

02:06:49.240 there's

02:06:49.460 you

02:06:49.580 know

02:06:49.640 this

02:06:49.820 mostly

02:06:50.720 Christian

02:06:51.140 idea

02:06:51.440 that

02:06:51.660 you

02:06:52.120 could

02:06:52.240 live

02:06:58.500 deal

02:06:58.680 right

02:06:58.940 it's

02:06:59.140 like

02:06:59.340 you

02:07:00.220 can

02:07:00.340 do

02:07:00.420 whatever

02:07:00.620 the

02:07:00.740 hell

02:07:00.860 you

02:07:01.000 want

02:07:01.240 until

02:07:01.500 just

02:07:01.740 before

02:07:02.040 you

02:07:02.220 die

02:07:02.540 of course

02:07:03.020 you

02:07:03.160 might

02:07:03.340 not

02:07:03.540 know

02:07:03.720 when

02:07:03.880 that

02:07:04.080 is

02:07:04.340 so

02:07:04.520 that's

02:07:04.760 a

02:07:04.860 problem

02:07:05.240 you

02:07:05.860 then

02:07:06.040 you

02:07:06.160 can

02:07:06.260 just

02:07:06.400 say

02:07:06.560 well

02:07:06.740 I'm

02:07:06.940 sorry

02:07:07.320 and

02:07:07.600 you

02:07:07.840 know

02:07:07.940 everything's

02:07:08.340 forgiven

02:07:08.660 but

02:07:08.880 the

02:07:09.300 problem

02:07:09.560 with

02:07:09.720 being

02:07:09.860 cynical

02:07:10.200 about

02:07:10.460 that

02:07:10.660 sort

02:07:10.860 of

02:07:10.960 thing

02:07:11.140 is

02:07:11.280 that

02:07:11.420 it's

02:07:11.600 no

02:07:11.820 trivial

02:07:12.260 matter

02:07:12.600 to

02:07:12.820 repent

02:07:13.300 you

02:07:14.820 know

02:07:14.920 because

02:07:15.260 to

02:07:15.500 repent

02:07:15.880 means

02:07:16.360 figure

02:07:17.520 out

02:07:17.680 what

02:07:17.820 you

02:07:28.500 of

02:07:28.820 your

02:07:29.200 depravity

02:07:29.840 and

02:07:30.560 so

02:07:30.820 if

02:07:32.500 you

02:07:32.620 lived

02:07:32.920 a

02:07:33.060 particularly

02:07:33.520 reprehensible

02:07:34.220 life

02:07:34.660 and

02:07:35.280 you

02:07:35.420 come

02:07:35.640 to

02:07:35.800 understand

02:07:36.260 it

02:07:36.620 I

02:07:36.920 think

02:07:37.100 that

02:07:37.400 in

02:07:37.600 and

02:07:37.700 of

02:07:37.820 itself

02:07:38.240 could

02:07:38.600 kill

02:07:38.940 you

02:07:39.200 you

02:07:39.820 know

02:07:39.920 it's

02:07:40.100 a

02:07:40.240 terrible

02:07:40.560 thing

02:07:40.960 to

02:07:41.260 wake

02:07:42.440 up

02:07:42.740 and

02:07:43.080 see

02:07:43.440 what

02:07:43.680 you've

02:07:43.960 done

02:07:44.240 if

02:07:44.560 what

02:07:44.780 you've

02:07:45.040 done

02:07:45.220 is

02:07:45.400 truly

02:07:45.720 terrible

02:07:46.220 so

02:07:48.600 there's

02:07:48.920 no

02:07:49.120 easy

02:07:49.440 out

02:07:49.720 it's

02:07:50.000 not

02:07:50.220 an

02:07:50.340 easy

02:07:50.620 out

02:07:50.880 it's

02:07:51.160 it's

02:07:51.380 just

02:07:51.660 pure

02:07:51.940 cynicism

02:07:52.520 to

02:07:52.820 associate

02:07:53.380 that

02:07:53.620 idea

02:07:53.920 with

02:07:54.200 an

02:07:58.500 it's

02:07:59.660 continually

02:08:00.240 represented

02:08:00.840 is that

02:08:01.240 the

02:08:01.400 individual

02:08:01.860 is the

02:08:02.260 source

02:08:02.620 of

02:08:02.920 moral

02:08:03.780 choice

02:08:04.720 and

02:08:05.340 the

02:08:05.440 individual

02:08:05.820 is

02:08:06.280 prone

02:08:08.120 to

02:08:08.500 genuine

02:08:09.720 error

02:08:10.220 and

02:08:10.480 temptation

02:08:11.000 in a

02:08:11.580 believable

02:08:12.160 and

02:08:12.380 realistic

02:08:12.760 way

02:08:13.160 but

02:08:13.860 that

02:08:14.020 that

02:08:14.200 doesn't

02:08:14.640 sever

02:08:15.120 the

02:08:15.380 relationship

02:08:15.920 between

02:08:16.360 the

02:08:16.560 individual

02:08:17.020 and

02:08:17.840 the

02:08:17.980 divine

02:08:18.380 and

02:08:18.780 the

02:08:18.940 possibility

02:08:19.460 of

02:08:19.680 further

02:08:19.920 growth

02:08:20.340 and

02:08:20.920 then

02:08:21.060 I

02:08:21.180 would

02:08:21.320 say

02:08:21.480 well

02:08:21.640 thank

02:08:21.860 God

02:08:22.080 for

02:08:22.240 that

02:08:22.460 because

02:08:22.820 without

02:08:23.220 that

02:08:23.480 like

02:08:23.700 who

02:08:23.840 would

02:08:23.980 have

02:08:24.180 a

02:08:24.520 chance

02:08:24.900 right

02:08:25.220 who

02:08:25.460 would

02:08:25.580 have

02:08:25.740 a

02:08:25.840 chance

02:08:26.160 and

02:08:26.960 so

02:08:28.500 the

02:08:28.740 idea

02:08:29.060 that

02:08:29.380 the

02:08:30.280 deity

02:08:30.640 as

02:08:30.960 presented

02:08:31.620 the

02:08:31.860 infinite

02:08:32.260 let's

02:08:32.620 say

02:08:32.780 as

02:08:32.960 presented

02:08:33.360 in the

02:08:33.680 Old

02:08:33.840 Testament

02:08:34.180 is

02:08:34.420 merely

02:08:34.700 judgmental

02:08:35.300 is

02:08:35.440 definitely

02:08:35.860 wrong

02:08:36.320 and

02:08:36.900 is

02:08:37.480 in

02:08:37.660 fact

02:08:37.840 something

02:08:38.120 that

02:08:38.340 you

02:08:38.500 can

02:08:38.740 contend

02:08:39.660 with

02:08:39.920 and

02:08:40.180 bargain

02:08:40.660 with

02:08:40.860 I'll

02:08:41.420 close

02:08:41.700 with

02:08:41.880 one

02:08:42.100 thing

02:08:42.380 one

02:08:43.580 of

02:08:43.680 the

02:08:43.800 things

02:08:44.040 that

02:08:44.220 I

02:08:44.340 learned

02:08:44.620 while I

02:08:45.260 was

02:08:45.380 going

02:08:45.560 through

02:08:45.720 this

02:08:45.960 was

02:08:46.480 the

02:08:46.640 meaning

02:08:46.900 of

02:08:47.080 the

02:08:47.200 name

02:08:47.400 Israel

02:08:47.760 because

02:08:48.000 Jacob

02:08:48.360 eventually

02:08:49.060 gets

02:08:49.340 named

02:08:49.600 Israel

02:08:50.020 and

02:08:50.860 I'm

02:08:51.800 jumping

02:08:52.040 ahead

02:08:52.320 a little

02:08:52.560 bit

02:08:52.800 to

02:08:53.080 the

02:08:53.460 next

02:08:53.660 lecture

02:08:54.000 but

02:08:54.220 Israel

02:08:55.480 and so

02:08:56.020 he's also

02:08:56.340 the father

02:08:56.780 of Israel

02:08:57.280 and the

02:08:57.600 father

02:08:57.840 of the

02:08:58.200 twelve

02:08:58.560 sons

02:08:59.420 who

02:08:59.680 make up

02:09:00.100 the

02:09:00.220 twelve

02:09:00.420 tribes

02:09:00.740 of

02:09:00.880 Israel

02:09:01.100 but

02:09:01.660 what

02:09:01.820 Israel

02:09:02.120 means

02:09:02.440 is

02:09:02.620 he

02:09:02.860 who

02:09:03.080 struggles

02:09:03.500 with

02:09:03.840 God

02:09:04.240 and

02:09:05.540 that's

02:09:05.800 such

02:09:06.000 an

02:09:06.140 interesting

02:09:06.540 idea

02:09:06.980 because

02:09:07.340 it's

02:09:07.640 again

02:09:08.040 a

02:09:08.220 psychological

02:09:08.680 idea

02:09:09.160 and

02:09:09.420 that's

02:09:10.580 why

02:09:10.740 I

02:09:10.860 said

02:09:11.060 earlier

02:09:11.340 that

02:09:11.540 it

02:09:11.680 isn't

02:09:11.920 obvious

02:09:12.300 in

02:09:12.500 the

02:09:12.600 Old

02:09:12.740 Testament

02:09:13.040 what

02:09:13.300 it

02:09:13.420 means

02:09:13.600 to

02:09:13.740 believe

02:09:14.060 in

02:09:14.460 God

02:09:14.700 because

02:09:14.960 what

02:09:15.160 Jacob

02:09:15.400 does

02:09:15.620 is

02:09:22.800 you're

02:09:23.020 trying

02:09:23.220 to

02:09:23.360 lead

02:09:23.500 an

02:09:23.620 ethical

02:09:23.840 life

02:09:24.120 that's

02:09:24.420 what

02:09:24.540 you're

02:09:24.680 doing

02:09:25.020 is

02:09:25.280 you're

02:09:25.980 struggling

02:09:26.520 like

02:09:27.140 blind

02:09:27.680 belief

02:09:28.240 isn't

02:09:28.540 helpful

02:09:28.920 because

02:09:29.180 you

02:09:29.340 don't

02:09:29.480 know

02:09:29.620 what

02:09:29.760 you're

02:09:29.960 believing

02:09:30.360 in

02:09:30.660 like

02:09:30.840 it's

02:09:31.040 just

02:09:31.200 not

02:09:31.440 that

02:09:31.680 helpful

02:09:32.180 but

02:09:33.040 if

02:09:33.160 you're

02:09:33.360 possessed

02:09:33.860 by

02:09:34.300 by

02:09:35.180 the

02:09:35.380 desire

02:09:35.920 to

02:09:36.200 orient

02:09:36.580 yourself

02:09:37.020 properly

02:09:37.460 but

02:09:37.640 also

02:09:37.860 confused

02:09:38.580 by

02:09:38.840 the

02:09:39.040 existential

02:09:40.040 structure

02:09:40.740 of the

02:09:41.040 world

02:09:41.300 which

02:09:41.520 we

02:09:41.700 all

02:09:41.900 are

02:09:42.140 then

02:09:42.380 what

02:09:43.420 you're

02:09:43.620 doing

02:09:43.880 when

02:09:44.080 you're

02:09:44.200 trying

02:09:44.380 to

02:09:44.520 orient

02:09:44.840 yourself

02:09:45.220 properly

02:09:45.680 in

02:09:52.800 dislocates

02:09:53.660 his

02:09:54.100 thigh

02:09:55.400 and so

02:09:55.860 the idea

02:09:56.620 there is

02:09:57.080 watch

02:09:57.840 the hell

02:09:58.320 out

02:09:58.680 the thing

02:09:59.320 that you're

02:09:59.680 contending

02:10:00.140 with

02:10:00.480 is

02:10:01.120 powerful

02:10:02.100 although

02:10:02.460 you can

02:10:03.080 contend

02:10:03.560 with it

02:10:03.880 that's

02:10:04.180 the thing

02:10:04.500 that's

02:10:04.680 so

02:10:04.800 interesting

02:10:05.160 but

02:10:05.680 you know

02:10:05.900 you do

02:10:06.260 it at

02:10:06.500 some

02:10:06.760 genuine

02:10:07.220 peril

02:10:07.680 which

02:10:07.980 I think

02:10:08.500 is

02:10:08.640 exactly

02:10:09.200 right

02:10:09.540 but

02:10:09.960 the idea

02:10:10.420 that

02:10:10.640 Israel

02:10:11.020 so

02:10:11.320 there's

02:10:12.160 Israel

02:10:12.660 the state

02:10:13.200 let's

02:10:13.480 say

02:10:13.620 and Israel

02:10:14.040 the promised

02:10:14.560 land

02:10:14.780 and all

02:10:15.060 of that

02:10:15.300 but

02:10:15.440 there's

02:10:15.640 this

02:10:15.780 more

02:10:16.040 important

02:10:16.480 idea

02:10:16.800 which

02:10:17.000 is

02:10:17.120 again

02:10:17.420 a

02:10:17.860 psychological

02:10:18.340 idea

02:10:18.780 which

02:10:19.040 is

02:10:19.200 the state

02:10:20.000 of

02:10:20.140 Israel

02:10:20.460 which

02:10:20.720 is

02:10:20.860 the

02:10:21.020 promised

02:10:21.400 land

02:10:21.720 is

02:10:22.040 the

02:10:22.280 state

02:10:22.800 that

02:10:23.420 everyone

02:10:23.820 who

02:10:24.100 wrestles

02:10:24.500 with

02:10:24.720 God

02:10:25.160 exists

02:10:26.060 in

02:10:26.360 and

02:10:27.560 that's

02:10:27.820 not

02:10:28.160 happy

02:10:29.760 naive

02:10:31.220 belief

02:10:32.220 in

02:10:32.580 you know

02:10:33.400 an eternally

02:10:34.720 blessed

02:10:35.160 afterlife

02:10:35.740 it's

02:10:36.080 not

02:10:36.320 that

02:10:36.680 it's

02:10:36.920 not

02:10:37.160 a

02:10:37.360 wish

02:10:37.580 fulfillment

02:10:38.020 it's

02:10:38.440 to be

02:10:39.800 actively

02:10:40.460 engaged

02:10:41.280 in

02:10:41.540 life

02:10:41.920 in

02:10:42.240 the

02:10:42.560 difficulties

02:10:43.220 of

02:10:43.500 life

02:10:43.880 right

02:10:44.180 and

02:10:44.600 trying

02:10:45.000 to

02:10:45.240 find

02:10:45.500 the

02:10:45.660 path

02:10:46.100 because

02:10:46.840 that's

02:10:47.120 what

02:10:47.340 wrestling

02:10:47.920 with

02:10:48.140 God

02:10:48.400 is

02:10:48.660 trying

02:10:49.260 to

02:10:49.520 find

02:10:49.840 the

02:10:50.040 path

02:10:50.440 and

02:10:50.880 that

02:10:51.140 seems

02:10:51.460 to

02:10:51.620 me

02:10:51.840 what

02:10:52.580 belief

02:10:52.960 means

02:10:53.420 fundamentally

02:10:54.140 in

02:10:54.560 the

02:10:54.700 Old

02:10:54.880 Testament

02:10:55.240 perhaps

02:10:55.720 in

02:10:55.900 the

02:10:55.980 New

02:10:56.120 Testament

02:10:56.420 as

02:10:56.660 well

02:10:56.860 is

02:10:57.020 that

02:10:57.180 belief

02:10:58.320 is

02:10:58.600 expressed

02:10:59.260 in

02:10:59.600 trying

02:11:00.040 to

02:11:00.300 find

02:11:00.640 the

02:11:00.860 path

02:11:01.380 and

02:11:02.060 that's

02:11:02.360 an

02:11:02.480 ethical

02:11:02.840 struggle

02:11:03.300 and

02:11:03.460 it's

02:11:03.620 a

02:11:03.740 real

02:11:03.940 struggle

02:11:04.340 it's

02:11:04.560 the

02:11:04.740 struggle

02:11:05.120 of

02:11:05.300 life

02:11:05.500 so

02:11:05.660 as

02:11:05.800 long

02:11:05.960 as

02:11:06.080 you're

02:11:06.200 willing

02:11:06.400 to

02:11:06.580 engage

02:11:07.240 in

02:11:07.440 that

02:11:07.680 struggle

02:11:08.180 then

02:11:09.040 hypothetically

02:11:10.100 you

02:11:10.460 have

02:11:10.740 the

02:11:11.040 divine

02:11:11.420 behind

02:11:11.920 you

02:11:12.180 and

02:11:13.280 so

02:11:13.580 I

02:11:15.840 believe

02:11:16.160 that

02:11:16.500 I

02:11:17.120 think

02:11:17.320 that's

02:11:17.620 true

02:11:17.880 because

02:11:18.900 the

02:11:19.080 other

02:11:19.220 thing

02:11:19.440 I

02:11:19.600 see

02:11:19.800 is

02:11:20.000 that

02:11:20.220 the

02:11:21.400 people

02:11:21.720 who

02:11:21.940 set

02:11:22.320 things

02:11:22.740 right

02:11:23.180 so

02:11:23.960 that

02:11:24.220 the

02:11:25.060 horrible

02:11:27.140 forces

02:11:27.860 of

02:11:28.140 cosmic

02:11:28.600 destruction

02:11:29.220 don't

02:11:29.680 do

02:11:29.960 us

02:11:30.220 in

02:11:30.440 the

02:11:30.880 people

02:11:31.180 who

02:11:31.340 are

02:11:31.440 trying

02:11:31.660 to

02:11:31.800 set

02:11:31.980 things

02:11:32.260 right

02:11:32.480 are

02:11:32.720 the

02:11:32.880 ones

02:11:33.080 that

02:11:33.240 are

02:11:33.360 struggling

02:11:33.820 ethically

02:11:34.380 and

02:11:35.460 so

02:11:35.720 and

02:11:36.020 that

02:11:36.240 there

02:11:36.680 is

02:11:36.780 a

02:11:36.880 redemptive

02:11:37.360 element

02:11:37.660 to

02:11:37.860 that

02:11:38.120 and

02:11:38.960 I

02:11:39.100 don't

02:11:39.260 think

02:11:39.420 there's

02:11:39.620 any

02:11:39.780 way

02:11:39.920 of

02:11:40.040 being

02:11:40.200 cynical

02:11:40.620 about

02:11:40.980 that

02:11:41.300 so

02:11:42.660 well

02:11:44.900 so

02:11:45.060 thank

02:11:45.320 you

02:11:45.480 Will

02:11:45.740 so

02:12:10.120 remember

02:12:10.600 to

02:12:10.880 speak

02:12:11.280 right

02:12:11.520 into

02:12:11.700 the

02:12:11.880 mic

02:12:12.060 because

02:12:12.440 there

02:12:12.640 are

02:12:12.780 all

02:12:13.100 these

02:12:13.340 other

02:12:13.560 people

02:12:13.860 watching

02:12:14.300 that

02:12:14.520 will

02:12:14.700 hear

02:12:14.980 us

02:12:16.420 so

02:12:17.740 okay

02:12:18.140 hi

02:12:19.780 Dr.

02:12:20.140 Peterson

02:12:20.400 so

02:12:21.620 with

02:12:21.920 the

02:12:22.100 story

02:12:22.300 of

02:12:22.440 Jacob

02:12:22.660 today

02:12:22.960 there

02:12:23.120 was

02:12:23.220 a

02:12:23.360 theme

02:12:23.540 of

02:12:23.700 betrayal

02:12:24.120 and

02:12:24.480 you

02:12:24.560 can

02:12:24.680 see

02:12:24.800 that

02:12:24.960 from

02:12:25.100 the

02:12:25.220 beginning

02:12:25.480 because

02:12:25.820 he

02:12:26.060 was

02:12:26.200 very

02:12:26.380 angry

02:12:26.680 and

02:12:26.860 jealous

02:12:27.080 at

02:12:27.260 his

02:12:27.400 brother

02:12:27.640 and

02:12:28.340 I

02:12:28.380 was

02:12:28.480 thinking

02:12:28.760 are

02:12:29.620 there

02:12:29.740 any

02:12:29.900 stories

02:12:30.260 or

02:12:30.440 what

02:12:30.620 you

02:12:30.660 can

02:12:30.780 say

02:12:31.040 about

02:12:31.260 betrayal

02:12:31.660 that

02:12:31.900 does

02:12:32.180 come

02:12:32.380 from

02:12:32.560 a

02:12:32.760 loved

02:12:32.960 one

02:12:33.240 right

02:12:33.640 where

02:12:34.060 it's

02:12:34.300 not

02:12:34.500 from

02:12:34.660 a

02:12:34.800 place

02:12:35.120 of

02:12:35.340 so

02:12:35.640 black

02:12:35.920 and

02:12:36.080 white

02:12:36.280 of

02:12:36.480 anger

02:12:37.240 resentment

02:12:37.800 and

02:12:38.100 bitter

02:12:38.300 and

02:12:38.620 how

02:12:38.920 do

02:12:39.060 the

02:12:39.180 parties

02:12:39.560 kind of

02:12:41.800 recover

02:12:42.120 from

02:12:42.340 that

02:12:42.540 or

02:12:42.700 is

02:12:42.840 there

02:12:42.920 any

02:12:43.020 way

02:12:43.120 to

02:12:43.280 redeem

02:12:43.560 that

02:12:43.740 or

02:12:43.980 is

02:12:44.300 it

02:12:44.360 as

02:12:44.500 black

02:12:44.740 and

02:12:44.880 white

02:12:45.040 as

02:12:45.240 if

02:12:45.420 you

02:12:45.540 betray

02:12:45.920 someone

02:12:46.280 then

02:12:46.540 it's

02:12:47.040 like

02:12:47.200 Jacob

02:12:47.520 where

02:12:47.860 he

02:12:48.140 was

02:12:48.560 bitter

02:12:48.800 he

02:12:48.960 was

02:12:49.080 hatred

02:12:49.880 no

02:12:50.220 and

02:12:50.440 in

02:12:50.740 fact

02:12:51.120 in

02:12:51.300 this

02:12:51.480 story

02:12:51.860 it's

02:12:52.100 not

02:12:52.340 black

02:12:52.660 and

02:12:52.820 white

02:12:53.040 because

02:12:54.060 we

02:12:54.480 know

02:12:54.600 we're

02:12:54.760 only

02:12:54.940 halfway

02:12:55.300 through

02:12:55.640 it

02:12:55.840 and

02:12:56.040 one

02:12:57.740 of

02:12:57.860 the

02:12:57.960 things

02:12:58.200 I've

02:12:58.420 noticed

02:12:58.700 as

02:12:59.180 a

02:12:59.300 clinician

02:12:59.740 let's

02:13:00.340 say

02:13:00.600 is

02:13:01.000 that

02:13:01.260 and

02:13:01.500 as

02:13:01.900 an

02:13:02.020 observer

02:13:02.420 of

02:13:02.660 people

02:13:02.920 in

02:13:03.120 general

02:13:03.400 is

02:13:03.640 that

02:13:03.840 I've

02:13:04.620 never

02:13:04.920 ever

02:13:05.200 seen

02:13:05.680 anyone

02:13:06.000 get

02:13:06.220 away

02:13:06.380 with

02:13:06.580 anything

02:13:06.960 and

02:13:08.000 Jacob

02:13:08.300 doesn't

02:13:08.600 get

02:13:08.720 away

02:13:08.900 with

02:13:09.060 any

02:13:09.240 of

02:13:09.400 this

02:13:09.700 and

02:13:10.460 so

02:13:10.780 you

02:13:13.680 know

02:13:13.780 he's

02:13:14.000 humbled

02:13:14.300 by

02:13:14.560 his

02:13:14.740 eventual

02:13:15.120 experiences

02:13:15.820 and

02:13:16.920 he learns

02:13:17.720 that he

02:13:18.080 did it

02:13:18.460 wrong

02:13:18.820 and

02:13:19.080 there's

02:13:19.380 reconciliation

02:13:19.940 that happens

02:13:20.920 throughout

02:13:21.280 the story

02:13:21.880 of

02:13:22.060 Jacob

02:13:22.360 so

02:13:23.380 and

02:13:23.620 there's

02:13:23.920 minor

02:13:24.520 betrayals

02:13:25.120 and

02:13:25.300 major

02:13:25.680 betrayals

02:13:26.320 you know

02:13:26.580 that

02:13:26.760 some

02:13:27.060 of

02:13:27.140 them

02:13:27.240 have

02:13:27.540 tremendously

02:13:28.320 serious

02:13:28.820 consequences

02:13:29.420 and

02:13:29.700 some

02:13:29.880 of

02:13:29.980 them

02:13:30.080 have

02:13:30.260 lesser

02:13:30.540 consequences

02:13:31.200 but

02:13:32.020 there

02:13:32.200 is

02:13:32.380 an

02:13:32.580 underlying

02:13:32.940 idea

02:13:33.380 that

02:13:33.640 things

02:13:34.240 can

02:13:34.460 still

02:13:34.740 be

02:13:34.940 set

02:13:35.300 right

02:13:35.660 even

02:13:35.940 though

02:13:36.140 it's

02:13:36.440 well

02:13:37.600 I

02:13:38.700 think

02:13:38.880 it

02:13:39.020 takes

02:13:39.280 Jacob

02:13:39.660 some

02:13:39.940 20

02:13:40.500 years

02:13:40.900 something

02:13:41.240 like

02:13:41.520 that

02:13:41.840 to

02:13:42.300 set

02:13:42.580 things

02:13:42.920 right

02:13:43.300 and

02:13:43.640 even

02:13:43.840 then

02:13:44.060 it's

02:13:44.280 like

02:13:44.440 touch

02:13:44.720 and

02:13:44.880 go

02:13:45.120 so

02:13:46.140 did

02:13:47.380 I

02:13:47.500 answer

02:13:47.720 your

02:13:47.900 question

02:13:48.280 okay

02:13:48.940 yeah

02:13:49.940 hey

02:13:51.640 you speak

02:13:53.780 frequently

02:13:54.360 in your

02:13:55.140 lectures

02:13:55.580 about

02:13:56.160 I guess

02:13:56.840 the war

02:13:57.580 between

02:13:58.020 good and

02:13:58.420 evil

02:13:58.680 or

02:13:58.900 the

02:13:59.180 struggle

02:13:59.620 of

02:13:59.860 life

02:14:00.180 really

02:14:00.480 is

02:14:01.040 a

02:14:01.200 struggle

02:14:01.480 between

02:14:01.900 good

02:14:02.180 and

02:14:02.300 evil

02:14:02.480 being

02:14:02.740 at

02:14:02.920 the

02:14:03.080 core

02:14:03.340 of

02:14:03.500 a

02:14:03.640 conscious

02:14:04.140 lived

02:14:04.920 existence

02:14:05.520 and

02:14:06.860 I guess

02:14:08.220 on that

02:14:08.600 note

02:14:08.900 if

02:14:11.980 you

02:14:12.160 were

02:14:12.420 100%

02:14:13.920 certain

02:14:14.340 that

02:14:15.520 there

02:14:15.740 was

02:14:15.960 no

02:14:16.300 afterlife

02:14:16.840 would

02:14:17.360 you

02:14:17.520 still

02:14:17.820 be

02:14:18.040 able

02:14:18.220 to

02:14:18.420 preach

02:14:18.800 that

02:14:19.080 there's

02:14:19.460 a

02:14:19.620 positive

02:14:20.060 meaning

02:14:20.500 in

02:14:20.920 life

02:14:21.180 if

02:14:22.260 you

02:14:22.360 were

02:14:22.500 100%

02:14:23.220 certain

02:14:23.480 some

02:14:23.820 atheists

02:14:24.420 seem

02:14:24.780 to be

02:14:25.040 100%

02:14:25.840 certain

02:14:26.240 and yet

02:14:26.900 they

02:14:27.080 still

02:14:27.340 preach

02:14:27.780 that

02:14:27.960 there's

02:14:28.180 some

02:14:28.360 positive

02:14:28.800 meaning

02:14:29.180 to

02:14:29.400 life

02:14:29.660 would

02:14:29.880 you

02:14:30.000 be

02:14:30.140 one

02:14:30.320 of

02:14:30.440 those

02:14:30.660 or

02:14:31.140 would

02:14:31.300 you

02:14:31.420 turn

02:14:31.660 into

02:14:31.920 Cain

02:14:32.380 you know

02:14:33.160 so

02:14:33.380 cynical

02:14:33.840 I

02:14:35.040 think

02:14:35.340 that

02:14:35.580 well

02:14:36.060 as

02:14:36.480 far

02:14:36.700 as

02:14:36.840 I'm

02:14:37.020 concerned

02:14:37.440 one

02:14:38.300 of

02:14:38.400 the

02:14:38.520 things

02:14:38.720 I

02:14:38.860 learned

02:14:39.120 from

02:14:39.380 studying

02:14:40.140 20th

02:14:40.640 century

02:14:40.960 history

02:14:41.340 is

02:14:41.600 that

02:14:41.760 like

02:14:42.440 even

02:14:42.720 if

02:14:42.900 the

02:14:43.060 idea

02:14:43.400 that

02:14:43.700 even

02:14:44.400 if

02:14:44.580 you

02:14:44.700 take

02:14:44.900 the

02:14:45.060 most

02:14:45.240 cynical

02:14:45.660 of

02:14:45.880 ideas

02:14:46.260 let's

02:14:46.600 say

02:14:46.760 that

02:14:47.000 life

02:14:47.720 is

02:14:47.980 irredeemable

02:14:49.220 suffering

02:14:49.720 and

02:14:50.000 perhaps

02:14:50.540 isn't

02:14:50.900 even

02:14:51.100 justified

02:14:51.600 because

02:14:52.100 of

02:14:52.300 that

02:14:52.560 it

02:14:54.240 still

02:14:54.520 seems

02:14:54.820 to

02:14:54.980 me

02:14:55.160 that

02:14:55.360 you

02:14:56.740 have

02:14:56.980 an

02:14:57.160 ethical

02:14:57.640 duty

02:14:58.320 let's

02:14:58.820 say

02:14:59.040 to

02:15:00.020 live

02:15:00.700 in a

02:15:00.960 manner

02:15:01.200 that

02:15:01.420 reduces

02:15:01.840 that

02:15:02.160 to

02:15:02.340 the

02:15:02.480 degree

02:15:02.780 that

02:15:03.540 that's

02:15:03.800 possible

02:15:04.300 and

02:15:05.480 so

02:15:05.800 and

02:15:06.480 I

02:15:06.600 think

02:15:06.780 that

02:15:06.980 that

02:15:07.280 can

02:15:07.480 be

02:15:07.620 experienced

02:15:08.080 as

02:15:08.300 meaningful

02:15:08.680 in

02:15:09.220 some

02:15:09.440 sense

02:15:09.700 independently

02:15:10.400 of

02:15:10.680 the

02:15:10.820 transcendent

02:15:11.480 context

02:15:12.020 now

02:15:12.660 I

02:15:12.820 don't

02:15:13.000 exactly

02:15:13.400 know

02:15:13.580 how

02:15:13.720 to

02:15:13.880 strip

02:15:14.320 off

02:15:14.640 the

02:15:14.840 transcendent

02:15:15.520 context

02:15:16.020 because

02:15:16.340 one

02:15:16.980 of

02:15:17.100 the

02:15:17.200 things

02:15:17.420 I

02:15:17.540 would

02:15:17.680 say

02:15:17.900 that's

02:15:18.160 happened

02:15:18.420 to

02:15:18.600 me

02:15:18.760 is

02:15:18.940 because

02:15:19.180 I've

02:15:19.520 spent

02:15:19.780 so

02:15:19.980 much

02:15:20.160 time

02:15:20.460 looking

02:15:20.740 at

02:15:21.000 the

02:15:21.200 horrible

02:15:21.480 things

02:15:21.820 that

02:15:21.980 people

02:15:22.260 have

02:15:22.540 done

02:15:22.800 is

02:15:22.960 that

02:15:23.100 it's

02:15:23.300 like

02:15:23.980 Jung

02:15:24.280 said

02:15:24.640 that

02:15:24.880 he

02:15:25.420 this

02:15:26.040 is

02:15:26.120 one

02:15:26.260 of

02:15:26.340 his

02:15:26.480 famous

02:15:26.860 quotes

02:15:27.140 he

02:15:36.600 my

02:15:38.600 sense

02:15:38.980 of

02:15:39.160 the

02:15:39.320 possibility

02:15:39.880 of

02:15:40.100 human

02:15:40.320 beings

02:15:40.600 has

02:15:40.760 also

02:15:41.020 grown

02:15:41.480 what

02:15:43.420 would

02:15:43.560 you

02:15:43.680 say

02:15:43.960 in

02:15:44.880 proportion

02:15:45.380 and

02:15:46.660 until

02:15:47.140 I've

02:15:47.380 become

02:15:47.640 convinced

02:15:48.080 actually

02:15:48.540 that

02:15:48.760 good

02:15:49.060 is

02:15:49.200 a

02:15:49.320 more

02:15:49.440 powerful

02:15:49.820 force

02:15:50.180 than

02:15:50.340 evil

02:15:50.620 even

02:15:51.320 though

02:15:51.520 evil

02:15:51.720 is

02:15:51.920 an

02:15:52.040 unbelievably

02:15:52.520 powerful

02:15:53.080 force

02:15:53.600 and

02:15:54.340 so

02:15:54.460 I

02:15:54.600 can't

02:15:54.900 really

02:15:55.160 strip

02:15:55.520 the

02:15:55.720 transcendent

02:15:56.300 away

02:15:56.460 now

02:15:56.680 what

02:15:57.080 bearing

02:15:57.740 that

02:15:57.940 has

02:15:58.180 on

02:15:58.380 eternity

02:15:58.980 say

02:15:59.320 on

02:15:59.500 an

02:15:59.640 afterlife

02:16:00.020 I

02:16:00.360 mean

02:16:00.500 I

02:16:01.120 can't

02:16:03.540 say

02:16:03.700 anything

02:16:03.920 about

02:16:04.200 that

02:16:04.560 the

02:16:05.200 only

02:16:05.340 thing

02:16:05.500 I

02:16:05.620 guess

02:16:05.800 I

02:16:05.920 can

02:16:06.060 say

02:16:06.260 is

02:16:06.420 that

02:16:06.600 there

02:16:07.280 are

02:16:07.420 many

02:16:07.720 things

02:16:08.000 about

02:16:08.280 being

02:16:08.900 that

02:16:09.060 we

02:16:09.200 don't

02:16:09.400 understand

02:16:09.840 in

02:16:10.020 the

02:16:10.160 least

02:16:10.460 and

02:16:11.300 we

02:16:12.120 don't

02:16:12.300 understand

02:16:12.700 the

02:16:12.880 nature

02:16:13.120 of

02:16:13.320 consciousness

02:16:13.760 or

02:16:14.020 the

02:16:14.160 nature

02:16:14.420 of

02:16:14.620 time

02:16:14.980 so

02:16:15.960 I

02:16:16.760 wouldn't

02:16:17.920 despair

02:16:18.600 about

02:16:18.920 that

02:16:19.140 but

02:16:19.300 yes

02:16:19.560 I

02:16:19.720 think

02:16:19.900 that

02:16:20.060 life

02:16:20.400 can

02:16:20.580 still

02:16:20.760 be

02:16:20.940 meaningful

02:16:21.320 without

02:16:21.760 there

02:16:23.920 being

02:16:24.160 a

02:16:24.300 necessity

02:16:24.780 of

02:16:25.100 an

02:16:25.220 afterlife

02:16:25.660 so

02:16:26.400 no

02:16:30.380 no

02:16:30.660 no

02:16:31.000 no

02:16:31.880 hi

02:16:36.640 dr

02:16:36.860 peterson

02:16:37.200 so

02:16:38.500 since

02:16:38.860 studying

02:16:39.560 your

02:16:39.780 work

02:16:40.020 one

02:16:40.180 of

02:16:40.260 the

02:16:40.340 things

02:16:40.580 that

02:16:40.720 I

02:16:40.840 found

02:16:41.200 most

02:16:42.000 fascinating

02:16:42.520 is

02:16:42.720 your

02:16:42.860 analysis

02:16:43.260 of

02:16:43.740 the

02:16:44.460 story

02:16:44.800 of

02:16:44.940 Cain

02:16:45.120 and

02:16:45.260 Abel

02:16:45.520 and

02:16:46.580 my

02:16:47.360 question

02:16:47.760 is

02:16:48.220 if

02:16:50.500 Cain

02:16:51.600 got

02:16:52.260 to

02:16:52.620 the

02:16:53.660 point

02:16:53.900 that

02:16:54.080 he

02:16:54.180 did

02:16:54.440 right

02:16:54.700 before

02:16:55.180 killing

02:16:57.260 his

02:16:57.460 brother

02:16:57.720 murdering

02:16:58.180 his

02:16:58.460 ideal

02:16:58.980 and

02:16:59.920 decided

02:17:00.420 that

02:17:00.660 that

02:17:00.920 was

02:17:01.300 something

02:17:01.640 he

02:17:01.840 didn't

02:17:02.180 want

02:17:02.420 to

02:17:02.580 do

02:17:02.840 what

02:17:03.720 advice

02:17:04.400 or

02:17:04.560 guidance

02:17:04.960 would

02:17:05.200 you

02:17:05.460 give

02:17:06.440 a

02:17:06.580 person

02:17:06.840 that

02:17:07.000 got

02:17:07.560 to

02:17:07.720 that

02:17:07.880 point

02:17:08.160 well

02:17:12.720 there's

02:17:16.640 a

02:17:16.800 story

02:17:17.120 I

02:17:17.340 read

02:17:17.560 called

02:17:17.900 the

02:17:18.220 cocktail

02:17:19.120 party

02:17:19.520 I

02:17:19.800 mentioned

02:17:20.320 this

02:17:20.560 before

02:17:20.940 by

02:17:21.280 T.S.

02:17:22.240 Eliot

02:17:22.440 and in

02:17:22.760 the

02:17:22.900 cocktail

02:17:23.180 party

02:17:23.540 there's

02:17:23.780 a

02:17:23.920 scene

02:17:24.260 to

02:17:24.560 play

02:17:24.860 where

02:17:25.640 this

02:17:25.820 woman

02:17:26.080 approaches

02:17:26.920 a

02:17:27.140 psychiatrist

02:17:27.600 and

02:17:28.020 starts

02:17:28.740 talking

02:17:29.100 to

02:17:29.280 him

02:17:29.420 about

02:17:29.640 her

02:17:29.900 problems

02:17:30.640 and

02:17:31.360 she

02:17:31.520 says

02:17:31.780 something

02:17:32.060 that

02:17:32.280 surprises

02:17:32.720 him

02:17:32.980 she

02:17:33.160 says

02:17:33.400 I

02:17:33.540 hope

02:17:33.840 that

02:17:34.080 I'm

02:17:35.000 the

02:17:35.160 problem

02:17:35.580 he

02:17:36.380 says

02:17:36.580 well

02:17:36.740 why

02:17:36.900 would

02:17:37.060 you

02:17:37.160 hope

02:17:37.380 that

02:17:37.720 and

02:17:38.280 she

02:17:38.420 says

02:17:38.620 well

02:17:38.780 I

02:17:38.880 thought

02:17:39.100 about

02:17:39.300 it

02:17:39.420 a

02:17:39.540 lot

02:17:39.760 and

02:17:39.940 if

02:17:40.760 the

02:17:40.900 world

02:17:41.120 is

02:17:41.240 the

02:17:41.360 problem

02:17:41.740 then

02:17:42.000 I'm

02:17:42.280 done

02:17:42.560 because

02:17:42.900 I

02:17:43.220 can't

02:17:43.540 change

02:17:43.820 the

02:17:44.000 world

02:17:44.220 but

02:17:44.480 if

02:17:44.640 I'm

02:17:44.940 the

02:17:45.080 problem

02:17:45.400 then

02:17:45.620 maybe

02:17:45.840 there's

02:17:46.100 something

02:17:46.380 about

02:17:46.820 myself

02:17:47.720 I

02:17:48.020 can

02:17:48.180 change

02:17:48.580 and

02:17:48.720 I

02:17:48.920 can

02:17:49.100 undo

02:17:49.660 this

02:17:49.960 terrible

02:17:50.360 situation

02:17:50.980 that

02:17:51.220 I'm

02:17:51.440 in

02:17:51.640 and

02:17:52.460 so

02:17:52.640 I

02:17:52.840 would

02:17:52.980 say

02:17:53.280 that's

02:17:53.780 repentance

02:17:54.300 fundamentally

02:17:55.220 it's

02:17:55.820 like

02:17:56.020 there

02:17:56.960 if

02:17:57.600 and

02:17:58.280 I

02:17:58.460 say

02:17:58.740 this

02:17:58.960 carefully

02:17:59.380 because

02:17:59.680 I

02:17:59.820 understand

02:18:00.420 that

02:18:00.660 people

02:18:01.020 are

02:18:01.960 susceptible

02:18:02.940 to

02:18:03.520 bad

02:18:04.520 fortune

02:18:05.100 sin

02:18:08.140 and

02:18:08.400 ignorance

02:18:08.900 can

02:18:09.120 make

02:18:09.360 that

02:18:09.600 worse

02:18:09.960 but

02:18:10.180 independently

02:18:10.840 of

02:18:11.120 that

02:18:11.340 like

02:18:11.600 good

02:18:12.360 people

02:18:12.700 suffer

02:18:13.140 make

02:18:13.800 no

02:18:14.000 mistake

02:18:14.360 about

02:18:14.660 it

02:18:14.960 but

02:18:15.940 if

02:18:17.920 things

02:18:18.380 aren't

02:18:18.880 right

02:18:19.360 for you

02:18:19.840 if

02:18:20.060 you're

02:18:21.320 resentful

02:18:22.760 about

02:18:23.000 being

02:18:23.480 because

02:18:23.920 that's

02:18:24.140 the

02:18:24.260 right

02:18:24.460 way

02:18:24.680 because

02:18:25.660 that's

02:18:25.920 the

02:18:26.060 deepest

02:18:26.400 way

02:18:26.700 of

02:18:26.840 thinking

02:18:27.100 about

02:18:27.280 if

02:18:27.400 you

02:18:27.500 read

02:18:27.760 the

02:18:28.220 writings

02:18:28.500 of

02:18:28.700 the

02:18:28.820 people

02:18:29.060 who

02:18:29.200 do

02:18:29.320 the

02:18:29.460 mass

02:18:29.720 killings

02:18:30.140 for

02:18:30.300 example

02:18:30.700 that's

02:18:31.360 what

02:18:31.560 you

02:18:31.700 see

02:18:31.860 over

02:18:32.100 and

02:18:32.200 over

02:18:32.400 it's

02:18:32.620 Cain

02:18:32.940 it's

02:18:33.160 like

02:18:33.380 they're

02:18:34.060 angry

02:18:35.020 beyond

02:18:35.660 comprehension

02:18:36.480 at

02:18:36.920 the

02:18:37.300 intolerability

02:18:38.700 of

02:18:39.000 being

02:18:39.400 and

02:18:39.740 they're

02:18:39.880 angry

02:18:40.120 at

02:18:40.320 God

02:18:40.880 even

02:18:41.540 if

02:18:41.640 they

02:18:41.720 don't

02:18:41.860 say

02:18:42.040 it

02:18:42.140 exactly

02:18:42.520 like

02:18:42.740 that

02:18:42.880 they

02:18:43.000 come

02:18:43.220 so

02:18:43.520 close

02:18:44.140 to

02:18:44.360 saying

02:18:44.660 it

02:18:44.800 like

02:18:44.980 that

02:18:45.220 that

02:18:45.380 it's

02:18:45.600 there's

02:18:46.320 no

02:18:46.460 difference

02:18:47.000 you

02:18:49.260 know

02:18:49.360 what

02:18:49.540 God

02:18:49.780 says

02:18:50.040 to

02:18:50.200 Cain

02:18:50.460 is

02:18:50.620 look

02:18:50.800 to

02:18:50.940 yourself

02:18:51.320 first

02:18:51.800 before

02:18:52.440 you

02:18:52.620 criticize

02:18:52.980 being

02:18:53.500 and

02:18:55.020 that

02:18:56.220 strikes

02:18:57.020 me

02:18:57.200 as

02:18:57.400 right

02:18:58.060 it's

02:18:58.880 because

02:18:59.420 to

02:18:59.760 not

02:19:00.040 do

02:19:00.200 that

02:19:00.400 is

02:19:00.540 arrogant

02:19:00.940 beyond

02:19:01.340 belief

02:19:01.640 that's

02:19:01.960 satanic

02:19:02.500 arrogance

02:19:02.960 literally

02:19:04.100 if

02:19:04.380 something

02:19:04.660 like

02:19:04.880 that

02:19:05.060 can

02:19:05.220 be

02:19:05.380 literal

02:19:05.760 it's

02:19:06.520 like

02:19:06.700 don't

02:19:07.140 make

02:19:07.380 yourself

02:19:07.760 the

02:19:08.000 judge

02:19:08.280 of

02:19:08.460 being

02:19:08.800 before

02:19:09.180 you

02:19:09.400 clean

02:19:09.760 up

02:19:10.000 your

02:19:10.280 room

02:19:11.880 let's

02:19:12.520 say

02:19:12.800 and

02:19:14.860 because

02:19:15.960 the other

02:19:16.360 thing

02:19:16.600 too

02:19:16.820 this is

02:19:17.360 something

02:19:17.580 I

02:19:17.740 learned

02:19:17.960 in

02:19:18.160 some

02:19:18.380 part

02:19:18.720 from

02:19:18.900 Solzhenitsyn

02:19:19.580 when he

02:19:20.060 was

02:19:20.220 in

02:19:20.340 the

02:19:20.460 prison

02:19:20.680 camps

02:19:21.020 and

02:19:21.160 trying

02:19:21.340 to

02:19:21.480 understand

02:19:21.860 how

02:19:22.060 these

02:19:22.280 heroic

02:19:22.680 people

02:19:23.060 he

02:19:23.240 saw

02:19:23.460 could

02:19:23.640 possibly

02:19:24.160 manage

02:19:24.600 it

02:19:24.780 one

02:19:25.300 of

02:19:25.400 the

02:19:25.520 exercises

02:19:26.120 he

02:19:26.360 undertook

02:19:26.760 and

02:19:26.880 he

02:19:27.040 really

02:19:31.960 as

02:19:32.420 he

02:19:32.580 said

02:19:32.880 he

02:19:32.980 went

02:19:33.160 over

02:19:33.340 his

02:19:33.500 life

02:19:33.700 with

02:19:33.860 a

02:19:33.980 fine

02:19:34.200 tooth

02:19:34.420 comb

02:19:34.720 and

02:19:35.220 tried

02:19:35.500 to

02:19:35.860 imagine

02:19:37.820 all

02:19:38.620 of

02:19:38.760 the

02:19:38.940 ethical

02:19:39.360 mistakes

02:19:39.900 he

02:19:40.140 made

02:19:40.480 in

02:19:40.760 his

02:19:40.920 entire

02:19:41.220 life

02:19:41.560 that

02:19:42.520 he

02:19:42.720 knew

02:19:43.000 were

02:19:43.180 mistakes

02:19:43.740 right

02:19:44.060 it

02:19:44.320 was

02:19:44.460 it

02:19:44.640 was

02:19:44.780 a

02:19:45.560 soul

02:19:45.980 search

02:19:46.500 not

02:19:46.840 he

02:19:47.480 wasn't

02:19:47.640 relying

02:19:48.020 on

02:19:48.180 external

02:19:48.580 standards

02:19:49.080 of

02:19:49.240 morality

02:19:49.620 except

02:19:50.260 in

02:19:50.440 so

02:19:50.580 far

02:19:50.800 as

02:19:50.940 were

02:19:51.180 inevitably

02:19:51.680 influenced

02:19:52.200 by

02:19:52.420 those

02:19:52.680 and

02:19:53.240 then

02:19:53.440 his

02:19:54.000 idea

02:19:54.320 was

02:19:54.540 is

02:19:54.760 there

02:19:54.920 something

02:19:55.220 I

02:19:55.420 could

02:19:55.580 do

02:19:55.760 right

02:19:56.060 now

02:19:56.300 to

02:19:56.460 put

02:19:56.660 that

02:19:56.960 right

02:19:57.380 and

02:19:59.360 that's

02:19:59.620 the

02:19:59.740 right

02:19:59.920 question

02:20:00.400 like

02:20:00.620 if

02:20:00.780 things

02:20:01.060 aren't

02:20:01.280 going

02:20:01.580 your

02:20:01.820 way

02:20:02.260 and

02:20:03.180 I

02:20:03.320 think

02:20:03.500 that

02:20:03.720 means

02:20:03.980 that

02:20:04.160 you're

02:20:04.400 resentful

02:20:05.040 and

02:20:05.200 arrogant

02:20:05.620 and

02:20:06.140 deceitful

02:20:06.760 those

02:20:07.060 are

02:20:07.180 the

02:20:07.320 three

02:20:07.540 things

02:20:07.880 that

02:20:08.040 clump

02:20:08.420 together

02:20:08.800 I

02:20:09.020 think

02:20:09.240 that

02:20:09.460 constitute

02:20:10.420 the

02:20:10.680 core

02:20:10.920 of

02:20:11.100 evil

02:20:11.360 it's

02:20:11.620 something

02:20:11.840 like

02:20:12.080 that

02:20:12.320 and

02:20:12.700 so

02:20:12.840 if

02:20:12.960 you're

02:20:13.180 possessed

02:20:13.640 by

02:20:13.980 that

02:20:14.380 which

02:20:15.000 is

02:20:15.120 hell

02:20:15.960 then

02:20:17.200 it's

02:20:17.920 repentance

02:20:18.400 that's

02:20:18.860 the

02:20:19.020 right

02:20:19.280 answer

02:20:19.760 and

02:20:19.940 what

02:20:20.100 that

02:20:20.300 means

02:20:20.600 is

02:20:20.840 you

02:20:21.340 have

02:20:21.520 to

02:20:21.620 figure

02:20:21.800 out

02:20:21.920 what

02:20:22.040 you

02:20:22.140 did

02:20:22.300 wrong

02:20:22.640 and

02:20:23.500 you

02:20:23.580 have

02:20:23.740 to

02:20:23.840 pay

02:20:24.000 for

02:20:24.220 it

02:20:24.420 and

02:20:25.380 then

02:20:25.500 at

02:20:25.660 least

02:20:25.940 you

02:20:26.120 could

02:20:26.260 think

02:20:26.500 well

02:20:26.660 look

02:20:26.880 I

02:20:27.000 can

02:20:27.160 try

02:20:27.560 that

02:20:27.940 with

02:20:28.280 all

02:20:28.480 of

02:20:28.600 my

02:20:28.860 soul

02:20:29.400 let's

02:20:29.960 say

02:20:30.180 and

02:20:30.540 see

02:20:30.740 what

02:20:30.900 happens

02:20:31.420 right

02:20:32.540 it

02:20:32.700 can

02:20:32.860 at

02:20:33.000 least

02:20:33.180 be

02:20:33.360 an

02:20:33.460 experiment

02:20:33.880 and

02:20:34.140 then

02:20:34.280 I

02:20:34.380 would

02:20:34.520 also

02:20:34.740 say

02:20:34.960 that

02:20:35.100 that's

02:20:35.380 an

02:20:35.480 act

02:20:35.700 of

02:20:35.840 faith

02:20:36.100 it's

02:20:36.540 an

02:20:36.660 act

02:20:36.940 of

02:20:37.060 faith

02:20:37.260 to

02:20:37.420 conduct

02:20:37.920 that

02:20:38.200 experiment

02:20:38.760 because

02:20:39.380 you

02:20:39.460 put

02:20:39.620 yourself

02:20:50.840 forward

02:20:51.240 you

02:20:51.420 couldn't

02:20:51.700 move

02:20:51.900 forward

02:20:52.240 without

02:20:52.520 an

02:20:52.720 act

02:20:52.980 of

02:20:53.140 faith

02:20:53.540 you

02:20:54.580 know

02:20:54.720 and

02:20:54.880 people

02:20:55.100 say

02:20:55.320 well

02:20:55.480 I

02:20:55.620 only

02:20:55.820 move

02:20:56.040 forward

02:20:56.340 on

02:20:56.500 the

02:20:56.600 basis

02:20:56.880 of

02:20:57.100 the

02:20:57.260 facts

02:20:57.700 it's

02:20:57.960 like

02:20:58.140 yeah

02:20:58.300 but

02:20:58.460 you

02:20:58.680 select

02:20:59.020 the

02:20:59.240 facts

02:20:59.660 and

02:20:59.860 there's

02:21:00.080 an

02:21:00.200 infinity

02:21:00.580 of

02:21:00.880 facts

02:21:01.180 and

02:21:01.340 they

02:21:01.460 don't

02:21:01.680 just

02:21:01.860 tell

02:21:02.100 you

02:21:02.240 what

02:21:02.420 to

02:21:02.580 do

02:21:02.780 so

02:21:03.000 it's

02:21:03.400 not

02:21:03.560 a

02:21:03.680 credible

02:21:03.980 answer

02:21:04.460 so

02:21:05.780 if

02:21:06.060 you're

02:21:06.260 in

02:21:06.400 that

02:21:06.600 situation

02:21:07.140 it's

02:21:07.420 like

02:21:07.680 look

02:21:10.060 to

02:21:10.260 yourself

02:21:10.720 you

02:21:11.760 know

02:21:11.860 and

02:21:12.000 one

02:21:12.340 of

02:21:12.440 the

02:21:12.560 things

02:21:12.780 about

02:21:13.020 Solzhenitsyn

02:21:13.620 that's

02:21:13.860 so

02:21:13.980 bloody

02:21:14.200 amazing

02:21:14.640 is

02:21:14.880 that's

02:21:15.160 what

02:21:15.280 he

02:21:15.400 did

02:21:15.740 and

02:21:16.040 then

02:21:16.140 he

02:21:16.220 wrote

02:21:16.380 the

02:21:16.540 Gulag

02:21:16.800 archipelago

02:21:17.340 and

02:21:17.560 you

02:21:18.020 know

02:21:18.100 he

02:21:18.240 took

02:21:18.420 an

02:21:18.580 axe

02:21:18.940 to

02:21:19.160 the

02:21:19.380 intellectual

02:21:19.940 and

02:21:20.240 moral

02:21:20.440 substructure

02:21:21.040 of

02:21:21.340 the

02:21:22.300 totalitarian

02:21:23.820 communist

02:21:24.240 states

02:21:24.720 so

02:21:25.680 while

02:21:25.940 he

02:21:26.080 was

02:21:26.260 redeeming

02:21:26.800 himself

02:21:27.280 let's

02:21:27.740 say

02:21:27.960 he

02:21:28.680 was

02:21:28.860 simultaneously

02:21:29.420 redeeming

02:21:30.040 the

02:21:30.180 world

02:21:30.480 and

02:21:31.760 you

02:21:32.020 see

02:21:32.400 something

02:21:32.680 like

02:21:32.900 that

02:21:33.140 like

02:21:33.360 you

02:21:33.520 you

02:21:34.020 gotta

02:21:34.140 wake

02:21:34.420 up

02:21:34.680 man

02:21:34.960 that's

02:21:35.460 that

02:21:36.940 was

02:21:37.100 really

02:21:37.380 something

02:21:37.840 so

02:21:38.920 yeah

02:21:40.980 so

02:21:47.660 dr.

02:21:48.180 peterson

02:21:48.380 i

02:21:48.540 have

02:21:48.680 a lot

02:21:48.860 of

02:21:48.960 questions

02:21:49.380 that

02:21:49.840 arise

02:21:50.200 from

02:21:50.360 your

02:21:50.500 comments

02:21:50.860 at

02:21:51.100 the

02:21:51.380 balfour

02:21:51.740 100

02:21:52.020 event

02:21:52.360 your

02:21:52.560 m103

02:21:53.080 video

02:21:53.440 your

02:21:53.840 recent

02:21:54.080 discussion

02:21:54.460 with

02:21:54.640 islam

02:21:56.820 in the

02:21:57.020 west

02:21:57.200 in

02:21:57.360 general

02:21:57.640 and

02:21:58.540 in

02:21:59.060 your

02:21:59.180 comments

02:21:59.460 there's

02:21:59.700 this

02:21:59.840 common

02:22:00.060 theme

02:22:00.440 that

02:22:00.640 one

02:22:00.860 of

02:22:00.980 these

02:22:01.140 things

02:22:01.400 is

02:22:01.560 not

02:22:01.760 like

02:22:01.960 the

02:22:02.120 other

02:22:02.320 you

02:22:02.560 put

02:22:02.800 the

02:22:03.040 judeo

02:22:03.460 christian

02:22:03.860 tradition

02:22:04.560 on

02:22:04.740 the

02:22:04.840 one

02:22:05.040 side

02:22:05.340 and

02:22:05.520 islam

02:22:05.920 on

02:22:06.080 the

02:22:06.180 other

02:22:06.380 specifically

02:22:07.240 the

02:22:07.560 complex

02:22:08.320 problem

02:22:08.820 of

02:22:08.960 islam

02:22:09.320 and

02:22:09.480 the

02:22:09.600 totalizing

02:22:11.200 system

02:22:11.600 before

02:22:12.660 i go

02:22:12.900 further

02:22:13.160 let me

02:22:13.420 state

02:22:13.620 that

02:22:13.860 if

02:22:14.120 hypothetically

02:22:14.840 a

02:22:15.500 final

02:22:15.760 analysis

02:22:16.160 of

02:22:16.360 islam

02:22:16.600 resulted

02:22:17.000 in

02:22:17.160 as

02:22:17.300 total

02:22:17.520 a

02:22:17.640 denunciation

02:22:18.160 as

02:22:18.860 your

02:22:18.980 analysis

02:22:19.300 of

02:22:19.540 postmodernism

02:22:20.260 or

02:22:20.400 neo-marxism

02:22:21.060 i wouldn't

02:22:21.620 be

02:22:21.760 personally

02:22:22.080 offended

02:22:22.420 at

02:22:22.600 all

02:22:22.740 this

02:22:22.940 isn't

02:22:23.220 a

02:22:23.460 personal

02:22:24.240 question

02:22:24.880 in

02:22:25.860 your

02:22:26.000 recent

02:22:26.260 interview

02:22:26.580 with

02:22:26.760 ayyan

02:22:27.000 her

02:22:27.140 she

02:22:27.280 said

02:22:27.940 western

02:22:28.760 values

02:22:29.200 are

02:22:29.360 superior

02:22:29.680 to

02:22:29.920 islamic

02:22:30.320 law

02:22:30.460 and

02:22:30.540 islamic

02:22:30.860 values

02:22:31.260 i

02:22:36.380 i'll skip

02:22:36.840 the

02:22:36.980 quotes

02:22:37.140 from

02:22:37.300 a

02:22:37.420 reason

02:22:37.620 magazine

02:22:38.020 interview

02:22:38.360 but

02:22:38.560 you

02:22:38.660 should

02:22:38.840 read

02:22:39.020 them

02:22:39.160 because

02:22:39.480 hers

02:22:40.100 is a

02:22:40.340 worldview

02:22:40.660 which

02:22:40.960 is

02:22:41.160 very

02:22:41.600 much

02:22:41.860 the

02:22:42.040 west

02:22:42.280 versus

02:22:42.940 islam

02:22:43.420 not

02:22:43.740 radical

02:22:44.020 islam

02:22:44.420 but

02:22:44.740 islam

02:22:45.080 including

02:22:45.780 necessarily

02:22:46.260 the

02:22:46.460 military

02:22:46.740 option

02:22:47.160 so

02:22:48.040 my

02:22:48.200 question

02:22:48.480 is

02:22:48.660 at

02:22:48.780 the

02:22:48.880 level

02:22:49.060 of

02:22:49.200 psychological

02:22:49.640 significance

02:22:50.240 of

02:22:50.420 these

02:22:50.580 stories

02:22:50.920 at

02:22:51.100 the

02:22:51.200 level

02:22:51.380 of

02:22:51.520 mythology

02:22:51.960 and

02:22:52.160 archetype

02:22:52.600 how

02:22:52.800 is

02:22:52.940 islam

02:22:53.280 so

02:22:53.780 different

02:22:54.060 from

02:22:54.240 the

02:22:54.360 judeo-christian

02:22:54.940 tradition

02:22:55.500 you know

02:22:56.200 because

02:22:56.440 adam

02:22:57.040 adam

02:22:57.640 eve

02:23:06.380 and

02:23:06.900 in

02:23:07.120 fact

02:23:07.260 i

02:23:07.400 think

02:23:07.540 one

02:23:07.660 of

02:23:07.720 the

02:23:07.780 strongest

02:23:07.980 criticism

02:23:08.360 of

02:23:08.560 islam

02:23:08.840 is

02:23:09.000 that

02:23:09.140 it's

02:23:09.280 perhaps

02:23:09.560 pretty

02:23:10.080 unoriginal

02:23:10.460 you know

02:23:11.700 tonight

02:23:12.720 you said

02:23:13.140 that

02:23:13.380 the

02:23:13.700 moral

02:23:13.880 presuppositions

02:23:14.580 of a

02:23:14.860 culture

02:23:15.100 are

02:23:15.320 instantiated

02:23:16.120 in

02:23:16.300 its

02:23:16.420 stories

02:23:16.780 i

02:23:17.260 see

02:23:17.460 a

02:23:17.740 lot

02:23:17.840 of

02:23:17.920 the

02:23:18.020 same

02:23:18.180 stories

02:23:18.600 so

02:23:19.120 current

02:23:19.360 global

02:23:19.600 affairs

02:23:19.820 aside

02:23:20.140 i'm

02:23:20.340 asking

02:23:20.600 at

02:23:20.760 the

02:23:20.860 deepest

02:23:21.080 levels

02:23:21.420 how

02:23:22.140 different

02:23:22.460 are

02:23:22.640 these

02:23:22.800 stories

02:23:23.120 and

02:23:23.240 the

02:23:23.360 moral

02:23:23.540 presuppositions

02:23:24.940 okay

02:23:25.960 well

02:23:26.140 that's

02:23:26.460 that's

02:23:26.800 a

02:23:26.920 killer

02:23:27.120 question

02:23:27.680 well

02:23:30.460 okay

02:23:31.760 so

02:23:32.000 the

02:23:32.160 first

02:23:32.360 thing

02:23:32.560 i

02:23:32.680 would

02:23:32.820 say

02:23:33.060 is

02:23:33.340 fundamentally

02:23:34.700 i

02:23:35.020 don't

02:23:35.320 know

02:23:35.700 and

02:23:37.020 so

02:23:37.180 part

02:23:37.420 of

02:23:37.480 the

02:23:37.580 reason

02:23:37.840 that

02:23:38.100 i'm

02:23:38.520 one

02:23:39.080 of

02:23:39.160 the

02:23:39.240 things

02:23:39.440 i'm

02:23:39.620 planning

02:23:39.860 to

02:23:40.040 do

02:23:40.180 is

02:23:40.320 to

02:23:40.440 have

02:23:40.620 a

02:23:40.760 series

02:23:41.060 of

02:23:41.280 discussions

02:23:41.780 and

02:23:42.100 plenty

02:23:42.660 of

02:23:42.840 people

02:23:43.100 have

02:23:43.300 contacted

02:23:43.840 me

02:23:44.100 about

02:23:44.360 discussing

02:23:45.000 with

02:23:45.940 Ayaan

02:23:46.340 Hirsi Ali

02:23:46.880 as

02:23:47.300 you

02:23:47.680 know

02:23:47.820 she

02:23:48.020 has

02:23:48.320 powerful

02:23:49.620 and

02:23:50.780 serious

02:23:51.480 foes

02:23:52.080 and

02:23:53.360 they're

02:23:54.200 not

02:23:54.460 happy

02:23:54.820 with

02:23:55.100 her

02:23:55.400 black

02:23:56.020 and

02:23:56.220 white

02:23:56.480 distinction

02:23:57.400 and

02:23:58.860 so

02:23:59.200 now

02:23:59.760 I

02:24:00.460 and

02:24:01.420 I

02:24:01.540 really

02:24:01.860 like

02:24:02.120 that

02:24:02.340 book

02:24:02.640 like

02:24:02.860 I

02:24:03.280 my

02:24:03.760 sense

02:24:04.160 was

02:24:04.420 that

02:24:04.600 she

02:24:04.800 she

02:24:05.380 was

02:24:05.540 a

02:24:05.660 heroine

02:24:06.100 now

02:24:07.280 what

02:24:07.560 that

02:24:07.840 means

02:24:08.420 in

02:24:08.560 relationship

02:24:09.040 to

02:24:09.280 Islam

02:24:09.600 that's

02:24:09.900 a

02:24:10.000 different

02:24:10.200 story

02:24:10.660 because

02:24:11.060 she

02:24:11.280 came

02:24:11.600 out

02:24:11.780 of

02:24:11.900 a

02:24:12.720 like

02:24:14.200 a

02:24:14.480 totalitarian

02:24:15.560 let's

02:24:16.280 say

02:24:16.460 family

02:24:16.980 structure

02:24:17.560 in

02:24:18.400 a

02:24:18.580 relatively

02:24:19.080 totalitarian

02:24:19.920 society

02:24:20.540 and

02:24:21.300 you

02:24:21.540 could

02:24:21.800 make

02:24:22.640 the

02:24:22.840 case

02:24:23.120 that

02:24:23.340 there's

02:24:23.600 a

02:24:23.740 correspondence

02:24:24.300 between

02:24:24.720 that

02:24:24.940 and

02:24:25.060 Islam

02:24:25.280 and

02:24:25.440 you

02:24:25.540 can

02:24:25.660 make

02:24:25.820 the

02:24:25.980 case

02:24:26.220 that

02:24:26.400 there

02:24:26.580 isn't

02:24:26.960 and

02:24:27.400 of

02:24:27.540 course

02:24:27.720 that's

02:24:28.040 the

02:24:28.200 critical

02:24:28.520 issue

02:24:28.960 and

02:24:30.020 so

02:24:30.380 there's

02:24:32.340 a

02:24:32.560 couple

02:24:32.780 of

02:24:32.960 things

02:24:33.240 that

02:24:33.400 I

02:24:33.540 can't

02:24:33.880 wrap

02:24:34.080 my

02:24:34.280 head

02:24:34.500 around

02:24:34.820 easily

02:24:37.620 in

02:24:38.020 relationship

02:24:38.500 to

02:24:38.780 Islam

02:24:39.080 and

02:24:40.240 so

02:24:40.420 one

02:24:40.720 is

02:24:41.040 what

02:24:42.060 I

02:24:42.240 see

02:24:42.460 as

02:24:42.740 the

02:24:42.920 failure

02:24:43.300 to

02:24:43.740 separate

02:24:44.100 church

02:24:44.400 from

02:24:44.600 state

02:24:45.000 and

02:24:45.980 that's

02:24:46.440 a

02:24:47.520 problem

02:24:47.940 now

02:24:49.940 it

02:24:50.220 may

02:24:50.380 not

02:24:50.540 be

02:24:50.700 a

02:24:50.840 problem

02:24:51.100 as

02:24:51.420 such

02:24:51.940 but

02:24:52.360 it's

02:24:52.560 certainly

02:24:52.820 a

02:24:53.020 problem

02:24:53.300 in

02:24:53.520 relationship

02:24:54.000 to

02:24:54.320 the

02:24:54.460 relation

02:24:54.900 between

02:24:55.280 Islam

02:24:55.640 and

02:24:55.860 the

02:24:55.980 West

02:24:56.260 because

02:24:56.560 we

02:24:56.780 separate

02:24:57.260 church

02:24:57.620 from

02:24:57.840 state

02:24:58.300 now

02:24:58.980 there's

02:24:59.300 fundamentalists

02:25:00.520 in the

02:25:00.780 United

02:25:01.020 States

02:25:01.520 Christian

02:25:01.920 fundamentalists

02:25:02.540 who

02:25:02.660 think

02:25:02.980 that

02:25:03.140 that

02:25:03.340 separation

02:25:03.900 is

02:25:04.160 a

02:25:04.280 mistake

02:25:04.800 so

02:25:05.840 it's

02:25:06.440 not

02:25:06.640 only

02:25:07.100 it's

02:25:08.860 not

02:25:09.020 only

02:25:09.280 an

02:25:09.420 idea

02:25:09.720 that's

02:25:10.060 rooted

02:25:10.280 in

02:25:10.500 Islam

02:25:10.800 that

02:25:11.080 those

02:25:11.280 should

02:25:11.460 be

02:25:11.620 united

02:25:12.020 but

02:25:13.160 it's

02:25:13.320 definitely

02:25:13.580 a

02:25:13.760 problem

02:25:14.120 with

02:25:14.480 regards

02:25:17.940 presumption

02:25:18.500 okay

02:25:19.100 so

02:25:19.280 that's

02:25:19.660 problem

02:25:20.240 number

02:25:20.500 one

02:25:20.800 problem

02:25:22.080 number

02:25:22.400 two

02:25:22.780 for

02:25:23.040 me

02:25:23.420 and

02:25:23.900 again

02:25:24.200 this

02:25:24.420 may

02:25:24.620 be

02:25:24.760 a

02:25:24.920 consequence

02:25:25.300 of

02:25:25.560 my

02:25:25.720 ignorance

02:25:26.120 which

02:25:26.360 I'm

02:25:26.580 trying

02:25:26.840 to

02:25:27.040 rectify

02:25:27.640 Muhammad

02:25:29.140 was

02:25:29.380 a

02:25:29.520 warlord

02:25:30.020 and

02:25:32.580 I

02:25:32.720 I

02:25:33.020 don't

02:25:33.180 know

02:25:33.320 what

02:25:33.500 to

02:25:33.640 do

02:25:33.780 about

02:25:34.020 that

02:25:34.280 fact

02:25:34.720 like

02:25:36.200 one

02:25:36.460 thing

02:25:36.680 you

02:25:36.820 can

02:25:36.960 say

02:25:37.160 about

02:25:37.420 Christ

02:25:37.900 hypothetically

02:25:40.480 let's

02:25:40.980 say

02:25:41.180 I'm

02:25:41.580 not

02:25:41.740 talking

02:25:42.100 about

02:25:42.620 a

02:25:42.740 historical

02:25:43.220 reality

02:25:43.680 necessarily

02:25:44.680 although

02:25:45.100 I'm

02:25:45.380 not

02:25:45.740 denying

02:25:46.120 it

02:25:46.280 either

02:25:46.540 is

02:25:47.220 that

02:25:47.420 of

02:25:48.140 all

02:25:48.460 the

02:25:48.680 things

02:25:48.980 he

02:25:49.140 was

02:25:49.480 warlord

02:25:50.060 was

02:25:50.340 definitely

02:25:51.040 not

02:25:51.520 one

02:25:51.840 of

02:25:52.020 them

02:25:52.260 and

02:25:53.780 I

02:25:53.980 don't

02:25:54.160 know

02:25:54.300 what

02:25:54.480 to

02:25:54.620 do

02:25:54.800 about

02:25:55.080 that

02:25:55.460 and

02:25:57.400 so

02:25:57.740 I

02:25:58.600 don't

02:25:58.760 know

02:25:58.900 how

02:25:59.040 to

02:25:59.220 reconcile

02:25:59.760 that

02:26:00.340 and

02:26:01.160 I

02:26:01.280 don't

02:26:01.420 know

02:26:01.540 how

02:26:01.660 to

02:26:01.800 reconcile

02:26:02.260 like

02:26:03.740 not

02:26:04.220 only

02:26:04.460 was

02:26:04.860 Muhammad

02:26:05.740 a

02:26:05.940 warlord

02:26:06.440 which

02:26:07.120 I

02:26:07.260 don't

02:26:07.500 think

02:26:07.740 is

02:26:07.900 an

02:26:08.040 unreasonable

02:26:08.500 thing

02:26:08.880 to

02:26:09.100 proclaim

02:26:10.300 the

02:26:12.920 expansion

02:26:14.380 that

02:26:14.720 he

02:26:15.020 initiated

02:26:16.200 was

02:26:16.820 unbelievably

02:26:18.000 successful

02:26:19.260 I mean

02:26:20.460 within 600

02:26:21.200 years

02:26:21.580 it was the

02:26:22.020 biggest empire

02:26:22.600 the world

02:26:22.980 had ever

02:26:23.320 seen

02:26:23.700 and it

02:26:24.580 demolished

02:26:25.220 Byzantine

02:26:25.740 Christianity

02:26:26.360 which is

02:26:27.200 something that

02:26:27.720 western people

02:26:28.420 don't even

02:26:28.980 know

02:26:29.520 you know

02:26:30.440 I've read

02:26:30.800 thinkers

02:26:31.180 who said

02:26:31.660 that the

02:26:32.080 west

02:26:32.300 was so

02:26:32.820 traumatized

02:26:33.880 culturally

02:26:34.880 let's

02:26:35.240 say

02:26:35.380 by the

02:26:35.780 demolition

02:26:36.380 of Byzantine

02:26:37.000 Christianity

02:26:37.640 that we

02:26:38.440 can't

02:26:38.880 even

02:26:39.140 study

02:26:39.580 it

02:26:39.800 now

02:26:40.300 and

02:26:41.640 so

02:26:41.920 I

02:26:42.360 don't

02:26:42.500 know

02:26:42.620 if

02:26:42.760 that's

02:26:43.020 true

02:26:43.300 but

02:26:43.620 I

02:26:43.820 don't

02:26:44.080 know

02:26:44.320 that

02:26:44.720 it's

02:26:44.920 not

02:26:45.240 true

02:26:45.600 either

02:26:45.960 and

02:26:47.220 the

02:26:47.820 Buddhists

02:26:48.260 were

02:26:48.480 wiped

02:26:48.740 out

02:26:48.940 of

02:26:49.060 Afghanistan

02:26:49.660 and

02:26:51.440 we

02:26:51.600 saw

02:26:51.840 that

02:26:52.080 echoed

02:26:52.480 in

02:26:52.640 the

02:26:52.940 Taliban's

02:26:53.540 destruction

02:26:53.960 of

02:26:54.240 those

02:26:54.440 great

02:26:54.720 Buddhist

02:26:55.080 monuments

02:26:55.700 and

02:26:56.820 so

02:26:57.180 so

02:26:59.860 what

02:27:00.080 I'm

02:27:00.320 hoping

02:27:00.800 is

02:27:02.200 that

02:27:02.460 there's

02:27:02.800 a

02:27:03.100 bridge

02:27:03.700 there

02:27:05.740 better

02:27:06.020 be

02:27:06.220 a

02:27:06.360 bridge

02:27:06.700 and

02:27:08.180 that's

02:27:08.420 why

02:27:08.560 I

02:27:08.680 want

02:27:08.820 to

02:27:08.880 have

02:27:09.040 these

02:27:09.260 discussions

02:27:09.760 because

02:27:10.060 I'd

02:27:10.320 like

02:27:10.480 to

02:27:10.660 understand

02:27:11.620 if

02:27:11.820 there's

02:27:12.040 a

02:27:12.160 bridge

02:27:12.480 and

02:27:12.920 so

02:27:13.080 lots

02:27:13.360 of

02:27:13.500 people

02:27:13.800 have

02:27:14.080 sent

02:27:14.840 me

02:27:15.040 people

02:27:15.360 who

02:27:15.540 I

02:27:15.700 should

02:27:15.880 talk

02:27:16.180 to

02:27:16.360 who

02:27:17.000 they

02:27:17.160 think

02:27:17.420 represent

02:27:18.000 Islam

02:27:18.660 far

02:27:19.100 better

02:27:19.380 than

02:27:19.600 Iyan

02:27:19.920 Herzi

02:27:20.260 Ali

02:27:20.500 and

02:27:21.300 perhaps

02:27:21.720 they're

02:27:21.980 correct

02:27:22.380 and

02:27:22.580 hopefully

02:27:23.260 I'll

02:27:23.500 get

02:27:23.620 an

02:27:23.760 opportunity

02:27:24.220 to

02:27:24.600 talk

02:27:24.900 to

02:27:25.040 them

02:27:25.220 because

02:27:25.760 I

02:27:25.920 would

02:27:26.040 like

02:27:26.240 to

02:27:26.400 know

02:27:26.600 why

02:27:26.880 I

02:27:27.340 would

02:27:27.480 like

02:27:27.660 to

02:27:27.760 know

02:27:27.940 if

02:27:28.220 what

02:27:28.460 I

02:27:28.620 think

02:27:28.880 is

02:27:29.060 wrong

02:27:29.460 because

02:27:30.940 if

02:27:31.100 it's

02:27:31.260 wrong

02:27:31.520 it's

02:27:31.740 important

02:27:32.160 that

02:27:32.600 I

02:27:32.740 know

02:27:32.940 it's

02:27:33.160 wrong

02:27:33.480 but

02:27:34.740 at

02:27:36.060 the

02:27:36.220 moment

02:27:36.500 I

02:27:36.720 don't

02:27:37.420 A

02:27:37.680 I

02:27:37.820 don't

02:27:38.040 know

02:27:38.200 it's

02:27:38.380 wrong

02:27:38.600 and

02:27:38.780 B

02:27:39.160 I

02:27:39.440 don't

02:27:40.080 see

02:27:40.580 I'm

02:27:46.380 not

02:27:46.620 sure

02:27:46.860 what

02:27:47.080 it

02:27:47.220 signifies

02:27:47.840 so

02:27:49.840 and

02:27:50.360 I

02:27:50.480 don't

02:27:50.640 think

02:27:50.820 anyone

02:27:51.120 is

02:27:51.380 sure

02:27:51.600 right

02:27:52.300 because

02:27:52.560 we

02:27:52.740 have

02:27:53.080 this

02:27:53.480 entangled

02:27:55.540 entangling

02:27:56.500 of the

02:27:56.860 civilizations

02:27:57.580 you know

02:27:58.700 and there's

02:27:58.980 other things

02:27:59.480 too

02:27:59.660 like

02:27:59.900 I'm

02:28:00.540 not

02:28:00.720 very

02:28:00.960 happy

02:28:01.320 with

02:28:01.600 the

02:28:01.800 Saudi

02:28:02.280 Arabs

02:28:02.620 and

02:28:02.800 the

02:28:02.940 Wahhabis

02:28:03.520 I

02:28:05.360 don't

02:28:05.580 think

02:28:05.780 they're

02:28:06.000 our

02:28:06.200 allies

02:28:06.660 I

02:28:08.440 don't

02:28:08.620 see

02:28:08.800 how

02:28:08.960 any

02:28:09.160 Western

02:28:09.540 woman

02:28:09.820 can

02:28:10.040 possibly

02:28:10.540 think

02:28:10.880 that

02:28:11.040 they're

02:28:11.220 our

02:28:11.400 allies

02:28:11.800 and

02:28:12.960 I'm

02:28:13.100 not

02:28:13.300 happy

02:28:13.660 with

02:28:13.880 the

02:28:14.020 fact

02:28:14.280 that

02:28:14.460 the

02:28:14.620 petrodollars

02:28:15.240 that

02:28:15.380 we

02:28:15.540 send

02:28:15.780 them

02:28:15.920 are

02:28:16.100 transformed

02:28:17.000 in

02:28:18.300 substantial

02:28:18.860 part

02:28:19.280 into

02:28:19.640 the

02:28:21.340 kind

02:28:21.560 of

02:28:21.700 propaganda

02:28:22.200 that's

02:28:22.600 definitely

02:28:23.160 a threat

02:28:23.960 to the

02:28:24.280 West

02:28:24.580 and

02:28:25.540 I'm

02:28:25.700 not

02:28:25.860 very

02:28:26.080 happy

02:28:26.360 with

02:28:26.560 the

02:28:26.700 fact

02:28:26.900 that

02:28:27.060 our

02:28:27.200 politicians

02:28:27.720 appear

02:28:29.140 stupidly

02:28:30.900 blind

02:28:31.260 to

02:28:31.460 that

02:28:31.740 now

02:28:32.400 that

02:28:32.700 may

02:28:32.920 again

02:28:33.240 be

02:28:33.400 a

02:28:33.540 consequence

02:28:33.900 of

02:28:34.160 my

02:28:34.340 ignorance

02:28:34.760 it's

02:28:35.740 certainly

02:28:36.000 possible

02:28:36.540 but

02:28:37.620 those

02:28:37.860 are

02:28:37.980 the

02:28:38.120 sorts

02:28:38.340 of

02:28:38.480 things

02:28:38.760 that

02:28:39.060 that

02:28:41.660 I

02:28:41.800 can't

02:28:42.160 reconcile

02:28:42.760 and

02:28:43.320 so

02:28:43.660 you

02:28:48.640 know

02:28:48.700 I've

02:28:48.900 seen

02:28:49.180 I've

02:28:49.440 also

02:28:49.640 seen

02:28:49.940 parallels

02:28:50.420 between

02:28:50.860 the

02:28:51.340 ideas

02:28:51.640 that

02:28:51.820 I'm

02:28:52.000 presenting

02:28:52.400 here

02:28:53.340 and

02:28:53.560 other

02:28:54.020 religious

02:28:54.360 traditions

02:28:54.900 Taoism

02:28:55.560 Buddhism

02:28:57.000 Hinduism

02:28:58.120 it's

02:28:58.960 harder

02:28:59.300 for me

02:28:59.660 to

02:28:59.780 bridge

02:29:00.000 the

02:29:00.160 gap

02:29:00.380 with

02:29:00.560 Islam

02:29:00.840 and

02:29:01.040 I'm

02:29:01.160 not

02:29:01.340 sure

02:29:01.540 why

02:29:01.740 that

02:29:01.940 is

02:29:02.220 I

02:29:02.980 think

02:29:03.300 it

02:29:03.420 has

02:29:03.560 something

02:29:03.840 to do

02:29:04.160 with

02:29:04.300 the

02:29:04.420 things

02:29:04.620 that

02:29:04.780 I

02:29:04.880 just

02:29:05.080 laid

02:29:05.320 out

02:29:05.580 now

02:29:06.440 what I

02:29:07.560 don't

02:29:07.720 know

02:29:07.860 about

02:29:08.060 Islam

02:29:08.400 would

02:29:08.600 fill

02:29:08.820 very

02:29:09.160 many

02:29:09.440 volumes

02:29:09.920 many

02:29:10.420 of

02:29:10.580 which

02:29:10.740 I

02:29:10.880 have

02:29:11.040 sitting

02:29:11.320 on

02:29:11.460 my

02:29:11.660 shelves

02:29:11.940 at

02:29:12.100 home

02:29:12.320 right

02:29:12.580 now

02:29:12.780 because

02:29:13.060 I

02:29:13.220 want

02:29:13.400 to

02:29:13.480 do

02:29:13.600 the

02:29:13.760 reading

02:29:14.100 as

02:29:15.320 progress

02:29:16.000 through

02:29:16.240 this

02:29:16.540 but

02:29:16.820 yeah

02:29:21.440 good

02:29:29.440 evening

02:29:29.800 Dr.

02:29:30.180 Pearson

02:29:30.460 thanks

02:29:30.820 for

02:29:31.000 continuing

02:29:31.460 this

02:29:31.820 series

02:29:32.360 even

02:29:33.280 us

02:29:33.500 atheists

02:29:34.000 appreciate

02:29:34.500 the

02:29:34.800 interaction

02:29:36.080 and

02:29:36.520 the

02:29:36.820 conversation

02:29:39.500 I

02:29:40.660 wanted

02:29:40.880 to

02:29:41.040 ask

02:29:41.220 you

02:29:41.340 something

02:29:41.640 that

02:29:42.220 is

02:29:42.540 both

02:29:43.040 emotional

02:29:44.000 and

02:29:44.660 analytical

02:29:45.160 because

02:29:46.200 often

02:29:46.520 times

02:29:47.120 you're

02:29:47.620 basically

02:29:48.540 pegged

02:29:49.040 as

02:29:51.240 seeing

02:29:51.500 things

02:29:51.780 very

02:29:52.120 analytically

02:29:52.680 so

02:29:53.420 you

02:29:53.580 were

02:29:53.680 talking

02:29:53.980 earlier

02:29:54.480 about

02:29:55.160 you

02:29:57.740 were

02:29:57.880 talking

02:29:58.120 about

02:29:58.320 the

02:29:59.100 juxtaposition

02:30:00.900 between

02:30:01.400 happiness

02:30:01.960 and

02:30:03.500 honour

02:30:06.040 even

02:30:06.860 though

02:30:07.020 I

02:30:07.140 don't

02:30:07.260 think

02:30:07.480 they're

02:30:07.680 mutually

02:30:07.940 exclusive

02:30:08.440 personally

02:30:08.860 but

02:30:09.060 if

02:30:10.820 there's

02:30:11.040 a

02:30:11.180 situation

02:30:11.660 let's

02:30:12.000 say

02:30:12.160 where

02:30:12.360 someone

02:30:13.000 is

02:30:13.880 truly

02:30:14.660 in

02:30:14.860 love

02:30:14.980 with

02:30:15.140 someone

02:30:15.380 else

02:30:15.680 and

02:30:16.020 they

02:30:16.140 love

02:30:16.340 them

02:30:16.520 for

02:30:16.700 many

02:30:16.900 years

02:30:17.260 and

02:30:17.400 decades

02:30:17.820 they

02:30:18.520 have

02:30:18.640 a

02:30:18.720 whole

02:30:18.860 history

02:30:19.200 together

02:30:19.680 and

02:30:20.920 then

02:30:21.140 someone

02:30:21.620 and

02:30:22.060 then

02:30:22.200 one

02:30:22.400 of

02:30:22.520 the

02:30:22.620 people

02:30:22.980 in

02:30:23.520 this

02:30:23.860 grouping

02:30:24.760 start

02:30:27.000 falling

02:30:27.400 in love

02:30:27.680 with

02:30:27.820 someone

02:30:28.040 else

02:30:28.460 so

02:30:30.100 it's

02:30:30.880 not

02:30:31.040 that

02:30:31.220 there's

02:30:31.440 less

02:30:31.680 love

02:30:32.020 for

02:30:33.280 the

02:30:33.500 original

02:30:33.880 partner

02:30:34.360 how

02:30:36.020 analytically

02:30:36.820 and

02:30:37.040 emotionally

02:30:37.480 do

02:30:37.960 you

02:30:38.420 take care

02:30:40.180 of a

02:30:40.400 situation

02:30:40.820 like that

02:30:41.380 when

02:30:41.840 you feel

02:30:43.120 that you

02:30:43.420 want to

02:30:43.800 stay

02:30:44.340 honorable

02:30:44.720 and be

02:30:45.980 happy

02:30:46.360 okay so

02:30:48.100 the first

02:30:48.480 thing I

02:30:48.800 would say

02:30:49.140 is the

02:30:49.480 devil's

02:30:49.880 always in

02:30:50.320 the details

02:30:50.920 right so

02:30:52.260 one of

02:30:53.420 one of the

02:30:53.540 things that

02:30:54.000 I'm

02:30:54.820 not happy

02:30:55.680 about

02:30:56.000 with much

02:30:56.800 modern

02:30:57.600 moral

02:30:58.160 theorizing

02:30:58.980 is that

02:30:59.480 it takes

02:31:00.800 a story

02:31:01.460 like that

02:31:02.180 you know

02:31:02.660 and then

02:31:03.200 tries to

02:31:03.680 extract out

02:31:04.360 a general

02:31:04.760 moral

02:31:05.040 principle

02:31:05.500 and

02:31:05.900 often

02:31:06.560 that's

02:31:07.180 impossible

02:31:07.640 because

02:31:08.080 the

02:31:09.040 particulars

02:31:09.760 of the

02:31:10.060 situation

02:31:10.540 are very

02:31:10.980 important

02:31:11.500 but having

02:31:12.920 said that

02:31:13.640 all right

02:31:15.000 so let me

02:31:15.420 think about

02:31:15.820 that for a

02:31:16.300 minute

02:31:16.460 I'm not

02:31:18.220 sure that

02:31:18.640 it's possible

02:31:19.280 to be

02:31:19.660 honorable

02:31:20.020 in a

02:31:20.400 situation

02:31:20.840 like that

02:31:21.420 because I

02:31:21.900 think that

02:31:22.300 you've acted

02:31:23.000 out the

02:31:23.760 violation

02:31:24.440 already

02:31:24.980 and having

02:31:26.560 acted out

02:31:27.100 the violation

02:31:27.720 to confess

02:31:28.440 it might

02:31:29.640 be the

02:31:30.060 right thing

02:31:30.460 to do

02:31:30.760 although

02:31:31.040 perhaps

02:31:31.620 not

02:31:32.160 you know

02:31:33.320 because

02:31:33.600 if you

02:31:33.960 it isn't

02:31:35.040 obvious to

02:31:35.580 me that

02:31:35.840 if you

02:31:36.100 betray

02:31:36.440 someone

02:31:36.820 then you

02:31:37.220 get to

02:31:37.540 have

02:31:37.700 the

02:31:37.840 right

02:31:38.040 to

02:31:38.220 tell

02:31:38.400 them

02:31:38.580 about

02:31:38.860 it

02:31:39.080 I

02:31:40.140 know

02:31:40.500 I

02:31:41.180 know

02:31:41.340 you're

02:31:41.540 not

02:31:41.680 I

02:31:41.840 understand

02:31:42.340 that

02:31:42.560 yeah

02:31:43.720 yeah

02:31:44.000 I

02:31:44.440 understand

02:31:45.120 I

02:31:45.400 understand

02:31:45.880 my

02:31:50.160 observation

02:31:50.660 has

02:31:51.180 been

02:31:51.440 that

02:31:51.680 if

02:31:52.180 there's

02:31:53.360 a

02:31:53.460 tight

02:31:53.720 relationship

02:31:54.280 and

02:31:54.720 if

02:31:54.880 one

02:31:55.060 party

02:31:55.360 is

02:31:55.520 betrayed

02:31:55.820 by

02:31:56.040 the

02:31:56.200 other

02:31:56.360 in

02:31:56.540 that

02:31:56.740 manner

02:31:57.080 that

02:31:57.700 it's

02:31:57.920 almost

02:31:58.440 always

02:31:59.000 irreconcilable

02:32:00.060 it

02:32:00.680 breaks

02:32:01.100 it

02:32:01.320 and

02:32:02.800 you know

02:32:04.140 I've

02:32:04.360 helped

02:32:04.840 people

02:32:05.200 try to

02:32:05.620 struggle

02:32:05.880 through

02:32:06.160 that

02:32:06.480 on

02:32:06.920 both

02:32:07.160 sides

02:32:07.460 of

02:32:07.560 it

02:32:07.660 the

02:32:07.780 person

02:32:08.040 who

02:32:08.200 was

02:32:08.400 betrayed

02:32:08.720 and

02:32:09.000 the

02:32:09.140 person

02:32:09.440 who

02:32:09.720 did

02:32:10.180 the

02:32:10.300 betrayal

02:32:10.720 I've

02:32:12.340 seen

02:32:12.560 people

02:32:12.900 grow up

02:32:13.500 and

02:32:13.660 not

02:32:13.980 do

02:32:14.260 it

02:32:14.380 again

02:32:14.700 and

02:32:14.920 this

02:32:15.080 was in

02:32:15.420 situations

02:32:15.900 where

02:32:16.160 their

02:32:16.300 partner

02:32:16.580 didn't

02:32:16.940 know

02:32:17.260 and

02:32:18.160 in

02:32:18.420 a

02:32:18.620 couple

02:32:18.860 of

02:32:19.020 those

02:32:19.200 situations

02:32:19.740 it

02:32:20.000 seemed

02:32:20.260 to

02:32:20.420 me

02:32:20.580 that

02:32:20.800 it

02:32:21.360 might

02:32:21.640 have

02:32:21.780 even

02:32:22.080 been

02:32:22.320 a

02:32:22.500 necessary

02:32:23.060 learning

02:32:23.580 experience

02:32:24.260 for the

02:32:24.620 person

02:32:24.920 who

02:32:25.120 did

02:32:25.360 it

02:32:25.560 you know

02:32:26.180 it

02:32:26.560 helped

02:32:27.600 them

02:32:27.860 develop

02:32:28.320 that

02:32:28.760 doesn't

02:32:29.060 mean

02:32:29.240 I'm

02:32:30.300 justifying

02:32:31.040 it

02:32:31.280 but

02:32:32.120 life

02:32:32.420 life

02:32:32.440 is

02:32:32.600 complicated

02:32:33.180 but

02:32:34.000 but

02:32:37.320 I

02:32:37.440 think

02:32:37.840 that

02:32:38.180 society

02:32:38.880 works

02:32:39.320 better

02:32:39.700 all

02:32:40.000 things

02:32:40.320 considered

02:32:40.840 when

02:32:42.400 you

02:32:42.560 make

02:32:42.800 a

02:32:42.960 promise

02:32:43.280 and

02:32:43.540 you

02:32:43.700 stick

02:32:43.960 to

02:32:44.200 it

02:32:44.380 and

02:32:45.360 one

02:32:45.880 of

02:32:45.980 the

02:32:46.100 things

02:32:46.320 I

02:32:46.480 learned

02:32:46.720 from

02:32:46.940 reading

02:32:47.220 Jung

02:32:47.560 which

02:32:47.860 I

02:32:48.320 really

02:32:48.560 liked

02:32:48.940 was

02:32:49.180 you know

02:32:51.460 he

02:32:51.720 believed

02:32:52.180 that

02:32:52.520 he

02:32:53.860 had

02:32:54.060 his

02:32:54.200 affairs

02:32:54.560 too

02:32:54.860 so

02:32:55.100 you

02:32:55.260 might

02:32:55.460 think

02:32:55.680 about

02:32:55.920 it

02:32:56.040 as

02:32:56.260 somewhat

02:32:56.680 hypocritical

02:32:57.360 but

02:32:57.600 but

02:32:59.440 I

02:32:59.560 think

02:32:59.740 that

02:32:59.880 people

02:33:00.100 can

02:33:00.280 make

02:33:00.460 mistakes

02:33:00.860 without

02:33:01.180 having

02:33:02.120 what

02:33:02.320 they

02:33:02.480 think

02:33:02.740 necessarily

02:33:03.320 be

02:33:03.580 wrong

02:33:03.960 you

02:33:05.120 know

02:33:05.200 he

02:33:05.360 said

02:33:05.640 that

02:33:05.760 there

02:33:05.900 are

02:33:06.020 things

02:33:06.320 in

02:33:07.200 a

02:33:07.320 marriage

02:33:07.580 that

02:33:07.760 you

02:33:07.880 can't

02:33:08.180 have

02:33:08.420 unless

02:33:08.700 you're

02:33:08.920 all

02:33:09.160 in

02:33:09.460 and

02:33:10.760 I

02:33:10.880 believe

02:33:11.160 that

02:33:11.480 I

02:33:11.880 believe

02:33:12.140 that

02:33:12.480 and

02:33:13.120 so

02:33:13.260 if

02:33:13.380 there's

02:33:13.520 a

02:33:13.640 back

02:33:13.880 door

02:33:14.140 open

02:33:14.560 or

02:33:15.200 like

02:33:16.080 to

02:33:16.380 begin

02:33:16.600 with

02:33:16.820 or

02:33:17.120 a

02:33:17.340 back

02:33:17.580 door

02:33:17.780 opens

02:33:18.180 then

02:33:18.380 I

02:33:18.520 think

02:33:18.700 that

02:33:18.860 there's

02:33:19.060 something

02:33:19.320 about

02:33:19.620 the

02:33:19.780 relationship

02:33:20.200 that

02:33:20.580 is

02:33:21.500 lacking

02:33:22.020 at

02:33:22.320 least

02:33:22.640 and

02:33:22.880 I

02:33:23.340 think

02:33:23.560 you

02:33:23.680 pay

02:33:23.820 a

02:33:23.940 big

02:33:24.080 price

02:33:24.380 for

02:33:24.560 that

02:33:24.800 so

02:33:26.020 I

02:33:26.200 mean

02:33:26.300 it

02:33:26.420 depends

02:33:26.780 on

02:33:26.940 whether

02:33:27.120 you

02:33:27.320 regard

02:33:27.700 a

02:33:27.860 marriage

02:33:28.140 as

02:33:28.400 a

02:33:29.920 practical

02:33:30.360 arrangement

02:33:30.900 or a

02:33:31.700 spiritual

02:33:32.040 arrangement

02:33:32.540 now

02:33:33.020 really

02:33:33.340 it's

02:33:33.600 both

02:33:33.980 you know

02:33:34.380 both

02:33:35.100 are

02:33:35.260 important

02:33:35.740 but

02:33:37.140 if

02:33:37.260 it's

02:33:37.420 a

02:33:37.600 spiritual

02:33:37.980 arrangement

02:33:38.420 or

02:33:38.600 a

02:33:38.740 psychological

02:33:39.200 arrangement

02:33:39.740 above

02:33:40.020 all

02:33:40.420 then

02:33:41.500 I

02:33:41.660 do

02:33:41.800 think

02:33:42.120 that

02:33:42.420 you

02:33:44.040 don't

02:33:44.680 get

02:33:44.960 the

02:33:45.200 transformation

02:33:45.700 without

02:33:46.200 being

02:33:46.580 all

02:33:46.820 in

02:33:47.000 and

02:33:47.380 if

02:33:47.500 you

02:33:47.620 violate

02:33:48.000 it

02:33:48.220 then

02:33:48.440 even

02:33:49.480 if

02:33:49.660 you

02:33:49.760 can

02:33:49.920 work

02:33:50.120 it

02:33:50.240 out

02:33:50.340 with

02:33:50.500 your

02:33:50.620 partner

02:33:50.920 there's

02:33:51.220 something

02:33:51.500 that

02:33:51.720 you

02:33:51.840 will

02:33:52.000 never

02:33:52.340 get

02:33:53.100 as

02:33:54.180 a

02:33:54.300 consequence

02:33:54.800 so

02:33:55.880 last

02:34:04.580 question

02:34:05.220 okay

02:34:06.340 I hope

02:34:06.640 I'll make

02:34:06.860 this

02:34:07.000 good

02:34:07.220 thanks

02:34:08.780 also

02:34:09.040 for

02:34:09.280 continuing

02:34:09.640 the lecture

02:34:09.980 series

02:34:10.380 I haven't

02:34:11.300 listened

02:34:11.600 to

02:34:11.840 all

02:34:12.160 of

02:34:12.280 the

02:34:12.400 lectures

02:34:12.760 but

02:34:13.280 it

02:34:13.420 seems

02:34:13.600 like

02:34:13.740 you

02:34:13.840 focus

02:34:14.140 very

02:34:14.360 much

02:34:14.640 on

02:34:15.080 the

02:34:15.460 appeal

02:34:16.020 of

02:34:16.860 the

02:34:17.000 biblical

02:34:17.220 stories

02:34:17.700 to

02:34:18.000 the

02:34:18.240 individual

02:34:18.800 psychology

02:34:19.400 do you

02:34:20.420 have

02:34:20.460 any

02:34:20.580 thoughts

02:34:20.860 on

02:34:21.060 the

02:34:21.180 relative

02:34:21.400 importance

02:34:21.880 of

02:34:22.220 crowd

02:34:22.620 psychology

02:34:23.180 to

02:34:23.660 the

02:34:24.280 appeal

02:34:24.920 and staying

02:34:25.260 power

02:34:25.480 of the

02:34:25.720 bible

02:34:25.900 and also

02:34:26.540 the

02:34:26.780 reason

02:34:27.860 why

02:34:28.020 the

02:34:28.160 bible

02:34:28.460 or the

02:34:29.140 biblical

02:34:29.320 stories

02:34:29.740 took

02:34:30.020 precedence

02:34:30.560 over

02:34:30.820 other

02:34:31.360 ideologies

02:34:33.260 which

02:34:33.500 could

02:34:33.680 have

02:34:33.780 taken

02:34:34.060 its

02:34:34.640 place

02:34:34.940 okay

02:34:36.220 well

02:34:36.420 let's

02:34:36.700 go to

02:34:37.000 the

02:34:37.180 second

02:34:37.480 one

02:34:37.760 first

02:34:38.240 I

02:34:44.760 think

02:34:45.040 it's

02:34:45.260 the

02:34:45.460 same

02:34:45.760 thing

02:34:46.180 that

02:34:46.640 happens

02:34:47.060 when

02:34:47.300 someone

02:34:47.820 both

02:34:49.540 creates

02:34:50.180 and

02:34:50.380 edits

02:34:50.760 a

02:34:51.060 great

02:34:51.480 movie

02:34:51.840 it's

02:34:54.220 no one

02:34:54.980 knows

02:34:55.440 like

02:34:55.820 imagine

02:34:56.180 how many

02:34:56.640 choices

02:34:57.000 are there

02:34:57.360 in a

02:34:57.560 great

02:34:57.760 movie

02:34:58.020 let's

02:34:58.260 say

02:34:58.360 it's

02:34:58.460 an

02:34:58.580 animated

02:34:58.920 movie

02:34:59.260 because

02:34:59.520 absolutely

02:35:00.140 everything

02:35:00.660 in an

02:35:00.920 animated

02:35:01.240 movie

02:35:01.520 is

02:35:01.700 constructed

02:35:02.280 everything

02:35:03.000 there's

02:35:04.040 god

02:35:04.440 only

02:35:04.680 knows

02:35:04.980 how

02:35:05.140 many

02:35:05.300 choices

02:35:05.740 like

02:35:06.060 maybe

02:35:06.680 there's

02:35:06.880 millions

02:35:07.420 of

02:35:07.720 choices

02:35:08.200 you know

02:35:09.160 and

02:35:09.400 each

02:35:10.300 choice

02:35:10.740 is

02:35:10.960 guided

02:35:11.380 by

02:35:11.680 some

02:35:12.020 intuition

02:35:12.720 of

02:35:13.100 narrative

02:35:14.460 suitability

02:35:15.260 or beauty

02:35:15.960 or

02:35:16.280 there's

02:35:16.680 some

02:35:16.820 higher

02:35:17.180 ideal

02:35:17.660 motivating

02:35:18.580 it

02:35:18.860 right

02:35:19.660 the desire

02:35:20.280 to produce

02:35:20.660 a masterpiece

02:35:21.220 maybe

02:35:21.660 that's

02:35:22.060 it

02:35:22.200 that

02:35:22.560 was

02:35:22.700 certainly

02:35:22.900 the

02:35:23.080 case

02:35:23.280 with

02:35:23.440 the

02:35:23.560 Disney

02:35:23.820 movies

02:35:24.200 for

02:35:24.380 example

02:35:24.820 and

02:35:25.320 so

02:35:25.480 that

02:35:25.740 aspiration

02:35:26.900 then

02:35:27.760 then

02:35:28.780 makes

02:35:30.240 the

02:35:30.440 decisions

02:35:30.960 and

02:35:31.520 so

02:35:31.700 I

02:35:31.860 would

02:35:32.000 say

02:35:32.240 well

02:35:32.540 something

02:35:34.000 like

02:35:34.300 that

02:35:34.560 guided

02:35:34.940 the

02:35:35.280 writing

02:35:35.780 and

02:35:36.100 the

02:35:36.300 selection

02:35:36.700 of

02:35:36.960 the

02:35:37.120 stories

02:35:37.560 in

02:35:38.020 the

02:35:38.400 biblical

02:35:38.720 canon

02:35:39.180 now

02:35:39.960 could

02:35:42.040 have

02:35:42.160 there

02:35:42.300 been

02:35:42.480 other

02:35:42.700 stories

02:35:43.120 included

02:35:43.620 well

02:35:43.840 the

02:35:44.020 Catholics

02:35:44.420 and

02:35:44.660 the

02:35:44.760 Protestants

02:35:45.260 don't

02:35:45.520 have

02:35:45.700 the

02:35:45.880 same

02:35:46.080 biblical

02:35:46.440 tradition

02:35:46.860 and

02:35:47.100 neither

02:35:47.300 do

02:35:47.480 the

02:35:47.660 Jews

02:35:47.880 and

02:35:48.040 the

02:35:48.160 Christians

02:35:48.520 and

02:35:48.800 so

02:35:49.000 it

02:35:49.600 isn't

02:35:49.840 exactly

02:35:50.240 clear

02:35:50.600 what

02:35:51.580 to

02:35:51.760 make

02:35:52.000 of

02:35:52.160 that

02:35:52.440 you

02:35:52.620 know

02:35:52.780 I

02:35:53.180 mean

02:35:53.300 that's

02:35:53.880 akin

02:35:54.260 in

02:35:54.460 some

02:35:54.680 sense

02:35:54.980 to

02:35:55.160 the

02:35:55.360 discussion

02:35:56.180 we

02:35:56.380 just

02:35:56.560 had

02:35:56.720 about

02:35:56.940 Islam

02:35:57.200 and

02:35:57.400 Christianity

02:35:58.020 in

02:36:01.780 some

02:36:02.060 sense

02:36:02.380 I've

02:36:02.660 left

02:36:02.900 that

02:36:03.300 aside

02:36:04.380 that

02:36:05.060 specific

02:36:05.600 question

02:36:06.120 except

02:36:06.660 in so

02:36:07.060 far as

02:36:07.420 I've

02:36:07.600 just

02:36:07.780 answered

02:36:08.180 because

02:36:08.520 I'm

02:36:09.260 trying to

02:36:09.600 take

02:36:09.820 what

02:36:10.080 we

02:36:10.300 have

02:36:10.800 which

02:36:11.360 I

02:36:11.520 know

02:36:11.800 is

02:36:11.980 at

02:36:12.140 the

02:36:12.280 root

02:36:12.480 of

02:36:12.620 our

02:36:12.760 culture

02:36:13.060 and

02:36:13.220 to

02:36:13.340 figure

02:36:13.540 out

02:36:13.780 what

02:36:14.200 it

02:36:14.340 is

02:36:14.580 that

02:36:14.760 we

02:36:14.940 have

02:36:15.280 why

02:36:16.540 it

02:36:16.720 is

02:36:16.880 that

02:36:17.040 we

02:36:17.180 have

02:36:17.480 it

02:36:17.660 well

02:36:19.860 I've

02:36:20.080 made

02:36:20.240 some

02:36:20.580 attempt

02:36:20.940 to

02:36:21.140 explain

02:36:21.560 that

02:36:21.860 in

02:36:22.740 the

02:36:22.840 manner

02:36:23.020 that

02:36:23.200 I

02:36:23.300 just

02:36:23.480 described

02:36:23.940 but

02:36:24.180 I

02:36:24.760 don't

02:36:24.920 have

02:36:25.100 a

02:36:25.220 final

02:36:25.480 answer

02:36:25.940 I

02:36:26.400 could

02:36:26.640 it

02:36:26.760 have

02:36:26.880 been

02:36:27.100 different

02:36:27.640 it

02:36:31.040 could

02:36:31.240 have

02:36:31.340 been

02:36:31.460 different

02:36:31.720 at

02:36:31.900 some

02:36:32.140 levels

02:36:32.480 but

02:36:32.660 the

02:36:32.840 same

02:36:33.060 at

02:36:33.200 others

02:36:33.540 you

02:36:34.440 know

02:36:34.520 I

02:36:34.620 mean

02:36:34.740 one

02:36:34.920 of

02:36:35.000 the

02:36:35.120 things

02:36:35.400 that

02:36:35.760 scholars

02:36:36.920 of

02:36:37.220 comparative

02:36:37.680 religion

02:36:38.160 who

02:36:38.620 haven't

02:36:38.920 been

02:36:39.080 infected

02:36:39.600 fatally

02:36:40.360 with

02:36:40.580 post

02:36:40.880 modernism

02:36:41.460 have

02:36:41.960 definitely

02:36:42.380 realized

02:36:42.980 so

02:36:43.240 Jung

02:36:43.540 for

02:36:43.740 example

02:36:44.180 and

02:36:44.380 Iliad

02:36:44.800 and

02:36:45.060 people

02:36:45.580 who

02:36:45.720 are

02:36:45.840 interested

02:36:46.180 in

02:36:46.420 grand

02:36:46.740 narratives

02:36:47.280 one

02:36:48.680 of

02:36:48.780 the

02:36:48.880 things

02:36:49.080 they

02:36:49.240 pointed

02:36:49.480 out

02:36:49.660 quite

02:36:49.880 clearly

02:36:50.240 is

02:36:50.480 that

02:36:50.620 there's

02:36:50.880 a set

02:36:52.220 of

02:36:52.400 common

02:36:52.880 mythological

02:36:53.740 themes

02:36:54.260 across

02:36:54.900 many

02:36:55.260 cultures

02:36:55.680 and I

02:36:55.920 tried

02:36:56.140 to

02:36:56.240 outline

02:36:56.520 that

02:36:56.740 in

02:36:56.860 Maps

02:36:57.100 of

02:36:57.260 Meaning

02:36:57.480 and

02:36:57.740 that

02:36:58.240 worked

02:36:58.740 out

02:36:58.920 quite

02:36:59.120 nicely

02:36:59.460 for

02:36:59.960 me

02:37:00.180 at

02:37:00.360 least

02:37:00.540 as

02:37:00.720 far

02:37:00.880 as

02:37:00.980 I

02:37:01.100 was

02:37:01.220 concerned

02:37:01.540 because

02:37:01.840 once

02:37:02.120 I

02:37:02.260 had

02:37:02.440 the

02:37:02.560 basic

02:37:02.900 archetypal

02:37:03.440 structure

02:37:03.840 mapped

02:37:04.160 out

02:37:04.360 it

02:37:04.480 opened

02:37:04.760 up

02:37:04.960 all

02:37:05.140 sorts

02:37:05.340 of

02:37:05.460 stories

02:37:05.760 to

02:37:05.920 me

02:37:06.060 from

02:37:06.240 all

02:37:06.460 sorts

02:37:06.700 of

02:37:06.820 different

02:37:07.080 cultures

02:37:07.500 and

02:37:08.240 that's

02:37:08.840 been

02:37:08.980 unbelievably

02:37:09.700 useful

02:37:10.160 like

02:37:10.440 the

02:37:10.960 Mesopotamian

02:37:11.660 story

02:37:12.000 of

02:37:12.140 the

02:37:12.500 Enuma

02:37:12.780 Elish

02:37:13.200 when I

02:37:13.840 figured out

02:37:14.320 what that

02:37:14.620 meant

02:37:14.900 as far

02:37:15.320 as I

02:37:15.520 was

02:37:15.640 concerned

02:37:15.980 like

02:37:16.580 I've

02:37:16.720 never

02:37:17.060 forgotten

02:37:17.600 that

02:37:17.860 it

02:37:18.000 just

02:37:18.200 seared

02:37:19.160 itself

02:37:19.620 into

02:37:19.840 my

02:37:20.060 memory

02:37:20.400 and

02:37:20.560 the

02:37:20.700 same

02:37:20.900 with

02:37:21.080 the

02:37:21.220 Egyptian

02:37:21.520 stories

02:37:22.080 and

02:37:22.320 you

02:37:22.980 know

02:37:23.140 some

02:37:23.640 Buddhist

02:37:24.020 writings

02:37:24.380 that

02:37:24.580 I've

02:37:24.780 read

02:37:24.940 and

02:37:25.120 some

02:37:25.340 Tao Te

02:37:26.160 Ching

02:37:26.400 is

02:37:26.580 also

02:37:26.840 very

02:37:34.760 on

02:37:35.100 what's

02:37:35.400 the

02:37:35.600 same

02:37:35.920 over

02:37:36.760 a

02:37:37.080 reasonable

02:37:37.440 period

02:37:37.960 of

02:37:38.120 time

02:37:38.380 because

02:37:38.680 there

02:37:38.920 isn't

02:37:39.180 that

02:37:39.360 many

02:37:39.600 ways

02:37:39.860 that

02:37:40.020 human

02:37:40.260 beings

02:37:40.560 can

02:37:40.780 live

02:37:41.140 properly

02:37:41.940 as

02:37:42.300 individuals

02:37:42.940 and

02:37:43.840 as

02:37:44.140 groups

02:37:44.560 together

02:37:45.080 and

02:37:46.020 so

02:37:46.140 there's

02:37:46.340 this

02:37:46.540 constant

02:37:47.000 force

02:37:47.660 that

02:37:47.900 makes

02:37:48.220 our

02:37:48.500 ethical

02:37:49.220 presuppositions

02:37:50.140 converge

02:37:50.820 and

02:37:51.340 then

02:37:51.480 that's

02:37:51.800 automatically

02:37:52.320 expressed

02:37:52.880 in the

02:37:53.200 stories

02:37:53.600 it's

02:37:54.580 something

02:37:54.800 like

02:37:55.080 that

02:37:55.360 now

02:37:55.740 it's

02:37:55.880 an

02:37:55.980 imperfect

02:37:56.360 process

02:37:56.900 and

02:37:57.240 it's

02:37:57.460 full

02:37:57.660 of

02:37:57.760 error

02:37:58.100 so

02:37:59.100 yep

02:38:01.660 so

02:38:08.260 just

02:38:09.700 one

02:38:10.260 announcement

02:38:10.880 well

02:38:11.860 two

02:38:12.200 announcements

02:38:12.700 the

02:38:13.140 next

02:38:13.360 lecture

02:38:13.720 I

02:38:13.880 believe

02:38:14.120 is

02:38:14.280 November

02:38:14.600 14th

02:38:15.320 so

02:38:15.440 I'll

02:38:15.620 hopefully

02:38:15.940 finish

02:38:16.340 off

02:38:16.580 the

02:38:16.740 story

02:38:17.020 of

02:38:17.200 Jacob

02:38:17.540 looks

02:38:18.060 like

02:38:18.340 it

02:38:18.500 and

02:38:19.140 then

02:38:19.420 I'm

02:38:20.100 also

02:38:20.480 appearing

02:38:21.160 on a

02:38:21.500 panel

02:38:21.860 with

02:38:22.120 Gad

02:38:22.460 Saad

02:38:22.940 and

02:38:23.200 Oran

02:38:23.560 Amitay

02:38:24.160 on

02:38:24.720 November

02:38:25.120 11th

02:38:25.880 and

02:38:26.320 there's

02:38:26.500 still

02:38:26.760 quite

02:38:27.100 a few

02:38:27.380 tickets

02:38:27.740 available

02:38:28.140 for

02:38:28.400 that

02:38:28.660 so

02:38:28.880 if

02:38:29.080 you're

02:38:29.260 interested

02:38:29.600 you

02:38:29.840 could

02:38:30.000 go

02:38:30.120 to

02:38:30.220 my

02:38:30.380 website

02:38:30.740 and

02:38:31.000 pick

02:38:31.180 up

02:38:31.340 those

02:38:31.560 tickets

02:38:31.960 it

02:38:32.820 should

02:38:33.060 be

02:38:33.360 well

02:38:34.200 hopefully

02:38:34.540 it'll

02:38:34.720 be

02:38:34.840 interesting

02:38:35.360 I

02:38:35.580 think

02:38:35.760 it

02:38:35.880 will

02:38:36.040 be

02:38:36.260 and

02:38:36.480 might

02:38:37.140 be

02:38:37.300 too

02:38:37.500 interesting

02:38:38.060 that's

02:38:39.140 one

02:38:39.320 possibility

02:38:39.960 so

02:38:41.380 we'll

02:38:41.760 see

02:38:42.080 but

02:38:42.520 I'm

02:38:43.100 going to

02:38:43.280 do

02:38:43.400 two

02:38:43.620 more

02:38:43.860 of

02:38:43.980 these

02:38:44.140 this

02:38:44.400 year

02:38:44.700 and

02:38:45.340 I

02:38:45.480 hope

02:38:45.760 I

02:38:46.020 get

02:38:46.200 through

02:38:46.460 the

02:38:46.740 story

02:38:47.020 of

02:38:47.200 Joseph

02:38:47.500 and

02:38:47.800 then

02:38:47.940 I

02:38:48.080 can

02:38:48.220 start

02:38:48.520 in

02:38:48.660 the

02:38:48.760 new

02:38:48.900 year

02:38:49.160 with

02:38:49.420 Exodus

02:38:50.180 and

02:38:50.520 that's

02:38:50.780 a

02:38:50.920 story

02:38:51.200 that

02:38:51.420 I

02:38:51.600 know

02:38:51.800 quite

02:38:52.100 well

02:38:52.440 Exodus

02:38:53.800 and

02:38:54.100 Leviticus

02:38:54.540 and

02:38:54.840 what's

02:38:55.220 the

02:39:01.560 killer

02:39:01.760 story

02:39:02.240 man

02:39:02.540 so

02:39:02.820 and

02:39:03.620 I've

02:39:04.200 got

02:39:04.340 some

02:39:04.580 surprises

02:39:05.080 for

02:39:05.380 that

02:39:05.600 as

02:39:05.760 well

02:39:06.000 so

02:39:06.340 anyways

02:39:07.200 thank

02:39:07.860 you

02:39:07.960 very

02:39:08.120 much

02:39:08.300 for

02:39:08.460 coming

02:39:08.720 and

02:39:09.160 hopefully

02:39:09.760 we'll

02:39:10.000 see you

02:39:10.400 November

02:39:10.900 14th

02:39:31.560 so

02:39:33.660 Thank you.

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - November 13, 2017

Jacob's Ladder

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