The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - Jordan Peterson Live on Tour： There Are Still Dreams Worth Chasing

00:00:00.000 Thank you, everyone.

00:00:13.160 So imagine that if you have the ambitions to accomplish something,

00:00:22.760 that you have to be devoted to it.

00:00:26.600 You have to concentrate on it.

00:00:30.500 You have to attend to it.

00:00:33.120 You have to make it a priority.

00:00:38.160 And what that means is that other concerns,

00:00:45.520 other things you could attend to,

00:00:50.300 other destinations towards which you might direct your actions,

00:00:54.260 you have to sacrifice those to that thing you're devoted to.

00:01:00.220 If you marry someone, you declare your devotion to them.

00:01:06.500 You put them above all other men or women.

00:01:10.500 You sacrifice the relationship you could have with all other men or women to that person.

00:01:17.840 You put them at the pinnacle of the hierarchy of your relationships.

00:01:23.880 And you do that when you, well, when you start a new business or when you take on a new job.

00:01:28.760 If you are in it wholeheartedly,

00:01:31.540 if you're in it in the manner that would most assure your success,

00:01:35.980 you devote yourself to it and you make the relevant sacrifices.

00:01:42.840 Now imagine that as you go through your life,

00:01:47.140 you prioritize one thing and then perhaps that comes to its conclusion

00:01:53.440 and then you prioritize another thing.

00:01:55.000 Or perhaps while you're prioritizing one thing,

00:01:58.120 as you move towards it,

00:02:00.320 your understanding of where you're heading transforms.

00:02:04.100 And so your direction shifts.

00:02:05.780 And imagine you repeat that continually and you do that in good faith

00:02:09.800 and you continue to pursue your object of devotion.

00:02:14.720 But you observe that what it is that you're aiming for transforms across time.

00:02:20.680 Now that doesn't mean that the things you were aiming for along the way were improper.

00:02:28.480 Although it does suggest that as you move towards your destination,

00:02:32.260 your understanding of the nature of that destination transforms as you accrue wisdom,

00:02:37.640 as you move forward.

00:02:40.200 I remember reading the autobiography of Leo Tolstoy called Confessions.

00:02:50.680 Tolstoy, at the height of his fame,

00:02:54.720 he was the most well-known author in the world

00:02:56.680 and a master of literature on par with Shakespeare.

00:03:03.280 He was an aristocrat in Tsarist Russia with immense estates.

00:03:10.480 He had a large family.

00:03:12.480 In many ways, he had everything, even by his own admission,

00:03:15.880 that he could possibly ask for.

00:03:17.240 And he was desperately unhappy and suicidal.

00:03:22.540 He sometimes, when he was walking on his estates,

00:03:25.740 he would carry a rope with him on the off chance that he would

00:03:29.380 finally make the decision to hang himself from a rafter.

00:03:33.540 And during that time of immense fame and productivity and abundant life

00:03:42.040 and his associated descent into despair,

00:03:47.080 he was searching and wrestling.

00:03:51.100 Wrestling with God, you might say.

00:03:53.040 Wrestling to understand the meaning of his life.

00:03:56.280 To understand his despair in the face of everything that had been granted to him.

00:04:02.740 Tolstoy's attention turned more to religious matters as he became older.

00:04:07.720 But he ends his book, the Confessions,

00:04:11.500 a very short book, it's very much worth reading,

00:04:13.480 with a vision, a dream.

00:04:15.320 He had a dream.

00:04:15.940 And he dreamt that he was suspended in midair.

00:04:20.020 And when he looked down, there was an abyss of infinite depth beneath him.

00:04:24.940 And to be suspended in midair with an abyss of infinite depth beneath you

00:04:29.560 is a daunting experience.

00:04:32.000 And you can understand that experience.

00:04:34.260 It doesn't take much literary analysis to comprehend the meaning of that vision.

00:04:40.100 It means that when any of us look down, we can see the abyss in front of us.

00:04:46.660 And we can easily become, we can easily despair in consequence of that sense of vertigo

00:04:55.440 that the unknown spread out like that in front of us might produce.

00:05:01.000 But then he looked up and what he saw was

00:05:04.340 he realized that he was suspended by a rope above this abyss

00:05:10.040 and that the rope extended upward farther than he could see.

00:05:16.340 So the rope above him extended into the infinite space above

00:05:22.060 as far up as the abyss below him reached down.

00:05:27.820 And then he woke up and that is the end of his book.

00:05:30.840 And he understood that something invisible and transcendent

00:05:39.400 supports us above the abyss that extends below us.

00:05:46.800 But the book ends there and the readers left with some resolution

00:05:52.260 of the problem that Tolstoy was facing, but with no real explanation.

00:05:57.020 The resolution was the hypothesis put forward in the dream image that

00:06:01.920 we're suspended by something that supports us above everything that threatens us.

00:06:08.680 But what supports us?

00:06:11.180 What is the nature of what supports us?

00:06:14.780 So one of the things you want to understand about the way that

00:06:18.520 that which should be put in the highest place is characterized in the Judeo-Christian tradition

00:06:26.300 is that in the final analysis, whatever God is, whatever is to be put in the highest place,

00:06:33.800 whatever is transcendent, is outside of time and space.

00:06:39.540 It's not to be found within the confines of anything that presents itself immediately to us.

00:06:45.600 And that in the final analysis, its nature transcends our understanding.

00:06:50.120 And so that begs the question, first, does something like that exist?

00:06:56.200 And second, if it does exist, yet it's incomprehensible, ineffable, and transcendent,

00:07:01.700 how are we to understand it and what is the nature of our relationship to it?

00:07:05.920 So imagine that you're devoted to something and you pursue it,

00:07:10.300 and as you pursue it, your understanding of what it is that you should be devoted to

00:07:15.120 transforms and broadens.

00:07:16.440 So what that implies is that what's good and motivating calls to you as that which grips

00:07:24.180 your attention and motivates you, but as you approach that destination and become wiser

00:07:32.120 in consequence, your understanding of where you're headed broadens and deepens or becomes

00:07:38.760 higher and more significant.

00:07:41.320 So then you could posit that behind the things that call you is that which calls to you as

00:07:51.160 such, which makes itself manifest as you approach it, but continually recedes.

00:07:59.240 So the idea would be, well, there's always another mountain to climb,

00:08:03.360 and that there's a sequence of mountains that never end, and that the peak of each successive

00:08:10.340 mountain is higher than the peak of the mountain previously, and that the ultimate destination

00:08:15.640 is the vanishing point of all those peaks.

00:08:20.440 That's what's at the top of Jacob's ladder.

00:08:23.800 That's the heaven.

00:08:25.140 That's the heaven that Jack climbs when he climbs the magic beanstalk, right?

00:08:29.180 That's a representation of the sacred tree at the center of the cosmos that shaman have

00:08:37.020 been climbing for 100,000 years.

00:08:39.880 That which is at the peak of that, that recedes as you approach it, and that calls you continually

00:08:47.220 to what's better and better, that's what's properly put in the highest place.

00:08:53.660 That's the good as such.

00:08:55.840 It's another way of thinking about it.

00:08:58.020 Now, that phenomenon of ultimate value, it's that phenomenon of ultimate value that shines

00:09:10.580 through everything of value that attracts you in your life.

00:09:13.660 This is what happens to Moses, for example, when he encounters the burning bush.

00:09:19.320 So, Moses is going about his business as a shepherd.

00:09:22.820 He's a good shepherd.

00:09:23.980 He has a couple of wives.

00:09:25.020 He has a good life.

00:09:26.860 He's attending to his flock one day, performing the duties of a typical productive and protective

00:09:38.100 man, and something beckons to him that's off the track.

00:09:42.240 Something calls to him.

00:09:43.340 It captures his attention, and he goes to investigate.

00:09:46.240 And as he approaches it, he realizes that it's a tree that's on fire.

00:09:51.120 The tree that's on fire, that's the tree of life.

00:09:54.900 A tree has been a symbol of life forever, and there's many reasons for that.

00:09:58.780 Not least that life itself has branching forms that make themselves manifest in the morphology

00:10:08.940 of trees, but in the branching relationship between kingdoms of animals as they progress

00:10:14.560 through time, in the branching structure of the blood vessel system that keeps you alive.

00:10:22.580 That replicating and differentiating structure that's tree-like is central to life itself.

00:10:28.620 And a tree that's on fire is something that is and is becoming at the same time.

00:10:33.820 It's something that exists and is transforming at the same time.

00:10:37.360 Of course, life has that characteristic, because you are what you are, but at the same time,

00:10:41.800 you are what you are becoming.

00:10:43.520 And it's the combination of those two things, really, that makes you alive.

00:10:47.820 Form plus possibility transforming itself into form.

00:10:52.580 And what Moses encounters is a manifestation of that central pattern of life.

00:11:00.540 And when something calls to you, that's what you encounter too.

00:11:04.980 When something makes itself interesting to you, when you find yourself compelled by something,

00:11:12.560 when you fall in love with someone, when you're motivated by forces outside yourself to pursue

00:11:18.080 something that interests you, the same thing has happened to you that happens to Moses.

00:11:24.540 And Moses follows this.

00:11:27.220 Moses has the faith to investigate what it is that fascinates him.

00:11:32.700 And he approaches it and investigates it.

00:11:35.580 And as he does so, his experience becomes deeper.

00:11:40.060 And he begins to understand that he's starting to tread on sacred ground.

00:11:44.440 And he takes off his shoes, which means he's not going anywhere,

00:11:48.320 which means he abandons his specific identity.

00:11:53.300 The shoes are emblematic of identity, which is why you can walk a mile in someone's shoes,

00:11:58.480 in order to understand them.

00:12:00.120 And he abandons who he is in pursuit of what he could be.

00:12:04.560 And the consequence of that is that a voice speaks to him out of the depths of the burning bush

00:12:10.420 and then announces itself as the spirit of being and becoming itself.

00:12:16.020 And what that means is that if you pursue that which calls you deeply in us,

00:12:21.280 the voice of the spirit that gives rise to order itself will make itself known to you.

00:12:27.460 And we know that because we know, all of us know,

00:12:30.900 that if we pursue something deeply, if we pursue something with commitment,

00:12:36.600 if we are devoted to something and pursue it,

00:12:39.480 that our understanding of that deepens.

00:12:43.560 That makes us deeper.

00:12:45.040 And that as our understanding of that particular phenomenon deepens,

00:12:53.260 we start to understand its connection with everything else.

00:12:56.180 And the deeper, and there's no limit to the depth of that.

00:12:59.900 And the consequence of that, and this is the consequence for Moses,

00:13:02.740 is that the revelation of the spirit of being and becoming to Moses

00:13:08.640 transforms himself into the sort of person

00:13:11.540 who can lead the enslaved out of tyranny

00:13:15.740 into the desert and toward the promised land.

00:13:18.560 And so what that means is that that's what makes Moses into a leader.

00:13:21.800 Is that he takes what compels his attention with all due seriousness,

00:13:28.360 investigates it wholeheartedly,

00:13:31.180 allows his identity to transform as a consequence,

00:13:35.480 and transforms himself with the help of what it is that's calling to him,

00:13:41.900 transforms himself into the sort of man who can stand against tyranny

00:13:46.800 and overcome the proclivity to slavishness,

00:13:51.980 who can navigate through the desert,

00:13:54.540 and who can find the final optimized destination.

00:13:59.600 And that's a pathway that is open to everyone,

00:14:04.900 and that's indicated by the fact of calling and interest.

00:14:11.560 That's a characterization of God.

00:14:16.580 That's a characterization of God.

00:14:18.280 Now what happens in the biblical corpus is that

00:14:21.120 the spirit that recedes and that calls forward

00:14:25.200 is characterized in the biblical stories.

00:14:27.700 And the reason for that is

00:14:30.880 so that the nature of that spirit can be made clear

00:14:34.560 so that individuals and societies can organize themselves

00:14:40.140 in productive harmony.

00:14:43.120 The biblical stories are a library of characterizations of God.

00:14:49.720 And so God is this spirit that calls us forward

00:14:52.660 is represented as a character,

00:14:54.520 and as the character to whom ultimate devotion should be paid.

00:14:59.660 So this is a definition.

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00:16:43.800 There's something that's like the spirit of devotion itself

00:16:46.900 that lurks behind that,

00:16:48.140 because you think about it this way,

00:16:49.980 it's different people are devoted to different things,

00:16:52.120 but that doesn't imply that they're not devoted.

00:16:55.020 And so there's something common about the fact

00:16:57.920 of being devoted across instances of devotion.

00:17:00.880 And there's something lurking behind

00:17:02.520 what makes you devoted,

00:17:04.540 that's the spirit of devotion itself.

00:17:06.700 And that's the spirit that makes itself manifest

00:17:09.580 in the burning bush,

00:17:10.760 and that's the spirit that's characterized

00:17:12.500 in the biblical corpus.

00:17:14.200 So let's walk through the characterization.

00:17:16.780 And I'm going to tell you a very specific story tonight.

00:17:19.320 I'm going to just tell you the story

00:17:20.920 of the Tower of Babel.

00:17:21.920 But I want to put it in context

00:17:23.840 so that what it means is a very short story,

00:17:26.440 but what it means can be fully understood.

00:17:29.140 The Tower of Babel is Genesis chapter 11.

00:17:31.720 There's 11 chapters of characterization

00:17:33.480 that precede it.

00:17:35.400 And I'm going to walk through you

00:17:36.660 through the characterizations.

00:17:38.040 Each of the biblical stories

00:17:40.580 is a characterization.

00:17:42.260 Now, we might want to investigate

00:17:44.680 what it means for something

00:17:45.760 to be characterized first,

00:17:46.980 so that you understand that.

00:17:48.820 That's what happens.

00:17:49.640 That's what you're trying to experience

00:17:51.460 when you go see a movie

00:17:52.400 or when you read a work of fiction

00:17:54.100 or when you listen to any story

00:17:55.700 is you're immersing yourself

00:17:58.860 in a characterization.

00:18:00.000 Now, if you go see a James Bond movie,

00:18:03.200 you're going to see a characterization

00:18:05.120 of the spirit of romantic adventure.

00:18:08.020 And the reason that you do that

00:18:09.400 is because you want to understand

00:18:11.240 that spirit

00:18:12.540 because there's part of you

00:18:14.220 that would like to be devoted

00:18:15.420 to the spirit of romantic adventure.

00:18:17.360 And you can tell

00:18:19.080 that there's a part of you

00:18:19.900 that would want to be devoted to that

00:18:21.440 because you wouldn't go see the movie.

00:18:24.900 Otherwise, you wouldn't find yourself

00:18:27.180 compelled by the romantic adventure

00:18:29.140 that unfolds.

00:18:30.460 And so that you could think

00:18:31.480 of the romantic adventure

00:18:33.220 that's encapsulated

00:18:34.300 in a James Bond movie

00:18:36.580 as a call to movement

00:18:38.580 in a particular direction.

00:18:40.000 And you could think

00:18:40.960 of the James Bond character

00:18:42.360 as a reflection

00:18:44.260 of that which calls to you

00:18:46.760 as such.

00:18:48.720 Right now,

00:18:49.480 I'm not making the claim

00:18:50.980 that the James Bond character

00:18:52.720 is the ultimate characterization

00:18:54.220 of what calls to you,

00:18:55.500 but it might be a sufficiently,

00:18:58.460 it might be a characterization

00:19:01.600 that's sufficiently beyond

00:19:03.260 your current ability

00:19:04.860 to act as a mediator

00:19:06.540 between you and what's behind it.

00:19:08.280 And you know that

00:19:11.380 even in a characterization

00:19:14.020 that's as associated

00:19:15.980 with popular culture

00:19:18.400 as the James Bond hero,

00:19:22.240 that the characterization

00:19:24.180 is a call to romantic adventure.

00:19:26.560 Right?

00:19:27.180 It's a dream of romantic adventure.

00:19:29.420 It's a dream of a mode of being

00:19:31.400 which would be

00:19:32.440 a characterization.

00:19:34.620 It's a call to a mode of being

00:19:36.300 that's beyond

00:19:37.480 the limited

00:19:39.920 confines of

00:19:41.760 often all too dull normality.

00:19:45.980 And the fact that

00:19:47.180 you're compelled by it

00:19:48.520 at least sufficiently

00:19:49.380 to pay for the movie

00:19:51.340 is an indication

00:19:52.200 that there's a part

00:19:53.560 of your spirit

00:19:54.680 that's yearning

00:19:55.460 to be released

00:19:57.000 from the

00:19:58.140 prison walls

00:20:00.840 of

00:20:01.260 insufficient normality.

00:20:04.620 And the reason

00:20:05.280 you're called to that

00:20:06.180 is for the same reason

00:20:07.240 that Abraham

00:20:08.000 is called by God

00:20:09.440 to leave

00:20:11.400 the comfort

00:20:12.160 of his father's tent

00:20:13.360 even at his advanced age

00:20:15.740 and to journey

00:20:16.380 into the world

00:20:16.960 and to have

00:20:17.500 his terrible adventure.

00:20:19.200 And the reason

00:20:20.400 that that's compelling

00:20:22.240 to Abraham

00:20:22.780 is because

00:20:23.540 we're called

00:20:25.280 to have the terrible

00:20:26.260 adventure of our life.

00:20:28.660 And to the degree

00:20:30.320 that we fail to do so

00:20:31.640 then our heart

00:20:32.540 yearns in that direction

00:20:33.840 and we will seek out

00:20:35.660 substitutes

00:20:38.360 and pathways forward

00:20:39.520 to attempt

00:20:41.760 to move us

00:20:43.580 toward that goal.

00:20:45.940 Why the call

00:20:47.200 to romantic adventure?

00:20:48.800 Why the high order

00:20:50.060 and dangerous adventure,

00:20:51.280 let's say,

00:20:51.780 that's characteristic

00:20:53.860 of an action-adventure

00:20:55.460 movie?

00:20:57.060 And the answer is,

00:20:58.000 well,

00:20:58.900 it's related

00:20:59.560 to the vision

00:21:00.700 of Tolstoy

00:21:02.920 is that

00:21:03.320 the abyss

00:21:04.600 that lays itself

00:21:06.300 out beneath us

00:21:08.160 is so deep

00:21:09.920 that the suffering

00:21:11.740 and complexity

00:21:13.820 of life

00:21:14.460 is sufficient

00:21:15.260 that only

00:21:16.680 a noble adventure

00:21:18.860 can justify it.

00:21:20.080 and so

00:21:21.540 without that

00:21:23.060 devoted striving

00:21:23.960 toward what's

00:21:24.800 ineffable

00:21:25.300 and transcendent,

00:21:26.940 the abyss

00:21:28.320 makes itself

00:21:29.680 so manifest

00:21:30.400 that it's

00:21:31.500 dispiriting

00:21:32.300 and disheartening.

00:21:35.560 We're not

00:21:36.400 after security.

00:21:37.420 That's why God

00:21:38.100 calls Abraham

00:21:38.740 out of his security,

00:21:40.140 his infantile

00:21:40.780 security.

00:21:41.660 We're not

00:21:42.200 designed for security.

00:21:43.460 We're not designed

00:21:44.060 for infantile safety.

00:21:46.480 We're designed

00:21:47.480 for romantic adventure.

00:21:48.820 In the first

00:21:51.420 book of Genesis,

00:21:53.060 God is characterized

00:21:53.900 as the

00:21:54.780 spirit that

00:21:56.540 confronts possibility

00:21:58.440 with love

00:22:00.120 and truth

00:22:00.960 and makes

00:22:01.640 the order

00:22:02.080 that's habitable.

00:22:03.200 The order

00:22:03.960 that is good

00:22:04.700 and habitable.

00:22:05.920 What does that mean?

00:22:08.180 Well,

00:22:08.500 people are made

00:22:09.180 in that image.

00:22:10.840 Well,

00:22:11.000 so what are people like?

00:22:13.880 People are conscious

00:22:14.800 characters.

00:22:16.420 And what is it

00:22:17.300 that you're conscious

00:22:17.960 of?

00:22:19.260 And the answer is

00:22:20.400 you're conscious

00:22:21.200 of possibility.

00:22:23.900 And in fact,

00:22:24.580 that's what your

00:22:25.120 consciousness is for.

00:22:27.440 Those things

00:22:28.280 that you can predict

00:22:29.500 that are familiar

00:22:30.380 and stable,

00:22:31.860 because they're

00:22:33.460 predictable

00:22:33.840 and familiar

00:22:34.440 and stable,

00:22:34.980 you don't have

00:22:35.460 to be conscious

00:22:36.020 of them.

00:22:36.760 In fact,

00:22:37.540 you aren't.

00:22:39.180 The things

00:22:39.820 that don't change

00:22:40.640 you don't attend to.

00:22:42.780 It's the things

00:22:43.720 that transform

00:22:44.520 and transmute

00:22:45.360 in front of you

00:22:45.980 that you attend to.

00:22:46.820 And that's

00:22:48.460 because you have

00:22:49.060 the opportunity

00:22:49.780 in the face

00:22:51.540 of that which

00:22:52.280 is still only

00:22:53.720 possible to

00:22:54.780 wrestle with

00:22:55.980 that possibility

00:22:56.800 and to transform

00:22:58.060 it into,

00:22:59.800 optimally,

00:23:01.000 the order

00:23:01.480 that is good.

00:23:02.200 and it's in so

00:23:04.420 doing that you

00:23:05.080 find your identity

00:23:06.040 with the spirit

00:23:07.060 that called

00:23:08.580 fourth order

00:23:09.320 from chaos

00:23:10.880 itself,

00:23:11.640 not only at the

00:23:12.840 beginning of time,

00:23:13.640 but now and

00:23:14.560 forever.

00:23:15.040 And it's

00:23:16.920 participation in that

00:23:18.100 process that

00:23:20.920 puts you,

00:23:24.260 that makes you

00:23:24.920 able to walk

00:23:25.640 unselfconsciously

00:23:27.040 with God

00:23:27.600 in the garden

00:23:28.280 and that

00:23:29.520 establishes

00:23:31.740 with God

00:23:32.420 the order

00:23:33.780 that is good

00:23:34.900 or very good.

00:23:36.720 In the story

00:23:37.740 of Cain and Abel,

00:23:39.040 God is further

00:23:40.440 characterized

00:23:40.920 as the spirit

00:23:42.700 that requires

00:23:43.860 the best

00:23:46.420 of all possible

00:23:47.240 offerings

00:23:47.860 in relationship

00:23:49.300 with man.

00:23:50.940 That's the spirit

00:23:52.020 of conscience.

00:23:52.960 That's a good way

00:23:53.580 of thinking about

00:23:54.180 that.

00:23:54.900 Cain is the man

00:23:55.640 who offers

00:23:56.300 what's second best

00:23:57.700 to himself

00:23:58.880 and other people

00:23:59.560 and the world

00:24:00.100 and to God.

00:24:02.100 His sacrifices

00:24:03.260 are second rate

00:24:04.380 and they're

00:24:05.920 rejected.

00:24:07.500 God is characterized

00:24:08.660 as the spirit

00:24:09.680 that rejects

00:24:10.740 anything but

00:24:11.800 the offering

00:24:13.420 of what's best.

00:24:15.500 And you might say,

00:24:16.520 well, I don't

00:24:16.960 believe in that spirit

00:24:17.920 and I would say,

00:24:19.520 don't be so sure

00:24:21.280 that you know

00:24:22.500 what you believe.

00:24:24.220 People are very

00:24:25.100 complicated and

00:24:26.040 it's a very rare

00:24:27.820 person indeed

00:24:28.520 who isn't

00:24:29.360 subject of his

00:24:30.580 own conscience.

00:24:33.260 In fact,

00:24:34.280 the rare person

00:24:35.120 who isn't subject

00:24:35.960 to his own conscience

00:24:37.020 is someone

00:24:38.320 that you don't

00:24:39.920 want to be near

00:24:40.560 and somewhere

00:24:41.100 you don't want

00:24:41.820 to be with him.

00:24:43.800 Your conscience

00:24:44.740 is that which

00:24:45.760 calls you out

00:24:47.200 when you

00:24:47.920 offer what's

00:24:50.220 less than

00:24:50.800 your best

00:24:51.760 to yourself

00:24:53.340 and to

00:24:53.960 your fellow man,

00:24:55.360 to society,

00:24:56.280 to the world

00:24:57.060 and God.

00:24:58.440 And there's no

00:24:59.420 difference between

00:25:00.200 that and the

00:25:00.960 indwelling voice

00:25:01.940 of conscience.

00:25:02.640 and that's

00:25:04.740 a characterization

00:25:05.920 of what should

00:25:07.020 be put in the

00:25:07.580 highest place

00:25:08.240 and a definition

00:25:09.720 of God.

00:25:11.380 The conscience

00:25:11.820 has an autonomy.

00:25:13.700 It's something

00:25:14.480 we wrestle with.

00:25:15.900 It's something

00:25:16.480 that appears

00:25:17.760 to be part of us

00:25:18.780 but acts

00:25:20.180 in a manner

00:25:20.680 that's only

00:25:22.180 dependent on

00:25:22.900 its own will

00:25:23.800 in that

00:25:25.660 if you transgress

00:25:27.600 against your own

00:25:28.320 conscience,

00:25:29.240 you'll call

00:25:30.920 yourself out

00:25:31.760 and inescapably

00:25:33.460 you can strive

00:25:35.840 to ignore

00:25:36.520 the betrayal

00:25:39.580 of the relationship

00:25:40.620 that the rebellion

00:25:41.560 of your conscience

00:25:42.340 indicates

00:25:42.940 but

00:25:43.820 the more

00:25:45.860 you attempt

00:25:46.460 to silence

00:25:47.280 what it is

00:25:48.180 to know

00:25:48.560 what it is

00:25:49.520 that you know

00:25:50.040 to be true

00:25:50.720 in relationship

00:25:51.840 to your own

00:25:52.480 shortcomings,

00:25:53.280 the worse things

00:25:54.360 will become

00:25:54.860 for you.

00:25:56.480 And the hypothesis

00:25:57.640 in the story

00:25:58.480 of Cain and Abel

00:25:59.160 is that

00:25:59.620 what is to be

00:26:01.220 put in the

00:26:01.640 highest place

00:26:02.420 the source

00:26:03.660 of all devotion

00:26:04.640 that to which

00:26:06.000 all sacrifice

00:26:06.740 should be devoted

00:26:07.580 is the spirit

00:26:08.880 that speaks

00:26:09.720 that speaks

00:26:11.140 in the voice

00:26:11.600 of conscience.

00:26:13.920 It's also

00:26:14.700 the spirit

00:26:15.260 that rewards

00:26:16.040 proper sacrifice

00:26:17.060 and you can

00:26:18.260 ask yourself too

00:26:18.980 do you believe

00:26:19.660 in the existence

00:26:20.200 of the spirit

00:26:20.860 that rewards

00:26:21.460 proper sacrifice?

00:26:22.660 Well so ask

00:26:23.200 yourself this

00:26:23.800 if you have a son

00:26:24.840 and you love

00:26:25.340 your son

00:26:25.820 isn't it

00:26:27.380 the best part

00:26:28.020 of you

00:26:28.280 that offers

00:26:28.920 him reward

00:26:29.660 in proportion

00:26:30.320 to the integrity

00:26:31.260 of his offerings?

00:26:33.420 Isn't it the

00:26:33.920 isn't it the

00:26:34.860 encouragement

00:26:35.380 that makes

00:26:37.340 the best

00:26:37.780 of him

00:26:38.240 make itself

00:26:40.580 manifest?

00:26:41.320 Isn't it the

00:26:41.820 encouragement

00:26:42.360 of the best

00:26:43.720 in you

00:26:44.120 saying to him

00:26:44.900 I'm impressed

00:26:46.980 by what it is

00:26:47.740 that you managed

00:26:48.680 do more

00:26:50.640 of that?

00:26:51.640 Isn't that

00:26:52.120 the basis

00:26:54.100 the most

00:26:54.920 fundamental

00:26:55.540 basis

00:26:56.000 of the best

00:26:56.800 relationship

00:26:57.360 you could

00:26:57.820 possibly

00:26:58.260 have

00:26:58.660 with him?

00:27:00.440 Isn't that

00:27:01.120 the basis

00:27:01.580 of the best

00:27:02.160 relationship

00:27:02.640 you could

00:27:03.040 have

00:27:03.320 with yourself

00:27:04.440 or with

00:27:04.820 the people

00:27:05.160 that you

00:27:05.480 love

00:27:05.820 to observe

00:27:06.720 what it is

00:27:07.240 that they

00:27:07.580 do

00:27:07.800 when they're

00:27:08.180 wholeheartedly

00:27:08.840 devoted to

00:27:09.460 something

00:27:09.840 when they're

00:27:10.500 all in

00:27:10.960 in their

00:27:11.320 sacrifices

00:27:12.100 and they're

00:27:14.260 wending

00:27:14.700 their way

00:27:15.280 up the

00:27:15.860 sequence

00:27:16.560 of mountains

00:27:17.140 forward?

00:27:18.460 And isn't

00:27:19.100 it exactly

00:27:19.980 what every

00:27:21.380 son wants

00:27:22.140 from his

00:27:22.700 father

00:27:23.120 for that

00:27:24.180 relationship

00:27:24.780 to be

00:27:25.180 the case?

00:27:28.080 God says

00:27:29.000 to Cain

00:27:29.420 if you

00:27:29.720 do well

00:27:30.220 you will

00:27:30.580 be accepted

00:27:31.320 and God

00:27:32.840 is therefore

00:27:33.280 the spirit

00:27:33.880 that accepts

00:27:34.780 if what

00:27:36.180 is good

00:27:36.760 is done

00:27:37.440 but also

00:27:38.640 the spirit

00:27:39.220 that judges

00:27:40.040 and rejects

00:27:41.980 if what

00:27:42.920 is best

00:27:43.380 is not

00:27:43.800 being offered

00:27:44.420 and that's

00:27:45.640 represented

00:27:46.360 in that story

00:27:47.160 as the

00:27:47.900 ultimate

00:27:48.180 manifestation

00:27:48.880 of a

00:27:49.520 combination

00:27:50.100 of the

00:27:50.780 combination

00:27:51.160 of mercy

00:27:51.900 and justice

00:27:52.540 that makes

00:27:53.440 up what

00:27:53.940 is ineffable

00:27:55.240 and divine

00:27:55.880 Cain

00:27:58.120 rejects

00:27:58.760 all the

00:27:59.180 guidance

00:27:59.560 that spirit

00:28:00.340 could possibly

00:28:01.080 provide

00:28:01.640 becomes bitter

00:28:03.880 resentful

00:28:05.720 and murderous

00:28:07.760 his children

00:28:08.680 and grandchildren

00:28:09.540 become

00:28:10.180 corrupt

00:28:12.220 and genocidal

00:28:13.480 and that's

00:28:15.500 the pathway

00:28:16.080 of degeneration

00:28:17.080 away from

00:28:18.040 adherence

00:28:20.520 to the

00:28:21.600 call of the

00:28:22.180 spirit

00:28:22.440 that moves

00:28:23.080 people

00:28:23.500 endlessly

00:28:23.920 upward

00:28:24.380 Cain's

00:28:26.580 children

00:28:26.920 they're also

00:28:27.440 the builders

00:28:27.980 of the

00:28:28.360 first cities

00:28:29.000 they're the

00:28:30.740 artisans

00:28:32.540 who first

00:28:33.020 make musical

00:28:33.700 instruments

00:28:34.180 they're the

00:28:34.820 craftsmen

00:28:36.520 and metallurgists

00:28:37.200 who make

00:28:37.560 weapons of

00:28:38.100 war

00:28:38.420 they're

00:28:40.500 the

00:28:42.140 engineers

00:28:42.680 who

00:28:43.240 offer

00:28:45.080 technological

00:28:45.760 solutions

00:28:46.400 to spiritual

00:28:47.200 problems

00:28:47.840 that becomes

00:28:50.160 relevant in the

00:28:50.980 story that I

00:28:51.520 am going to

00:28:52.020 tell you

00:28:52.480 Cain's

00:28:54.540 descendants

00:28:55.020 who've

00:28:56.980 turned away

00:28:57.480 from

00:28:57.940 direction

00:29:00.300 by the

00:29:00.760 ineffable

00:29:01.300 multiply

00:29:03.140 and fill

00:29:03.680 the earth

00:29:04.120 and

00:29:04.420 propagate

00:29:06.240 the sin

00:29:06.960 of Cain

00:29:07.420 everywhere

00:29:07.960 producing a

00:29:10.300 society that's

00:29:11.160 bitter and

00:29:11.640 resentful and

00:29:12.400 deceitful

00:29:13.100 and self-centered

00:29:14.760 and unwilling

00:29:16.040 to offer

00:29:16.540 its best

00:29:17.240 and prideful

00:29:19.400 and narcissistic

00:29:20.640 and technologically

00:29:22.700 obsessed and

00:29:23.520 hedonistic

00:29:24.100 and that's

00:29:26.060 why the

00:29:26.320 flood comes

00:29:26.920 and in the

00:29:28.480 story of

00:29:28.860 Noah God

00:29:29.380 is characterized

00:29:29.940 further as

00:29:30.820 the spirit

00:29:31.360 that calls

00:29:32.980 to the wise

00:29:33.900 even in times

00:29:34.740 of trouble

00:29:35.320 to prepare

00:29:37.380 in good

00:29:37.920 faith

00:29:38.460 to

00:29:39.720 shepherd their

00:29:42.260 family through

00:29:42.880 the inevitable

00:29:43.440 flood

00:29:43.980 and that's

00:29:45.840 what you do

00:29:46.300 as a wise

00:29:46.900 man and

00:29:47.740 woman

00:29:48.040 if you

00:29:50.060 have

00:29:51.920 maintained

00:29:52.920 the clarity

00:29:53.760 of your

00:29:54.080 vision

00:29:54.440 and the

00:29:55.320 integrity

00:29:55.720 of your

00:29:56.480 thoughts

00:29:57.220 so that

00:29:58.480 your intuitions

00:29:59.900 in times

00:30:00.680 of trouble

00:30:01.220 can warn

00:30:02.280 you

00:30:02.620 when it's

00:30:03.360 time to

00:30:03.760 prepare

00:30:04.160 so that

00:30:05.140 you do

00:30:05.480 that not

00:30:06.020 in fear

00:30:06.480 but in

00:30:06.860 good faith

00:30:07.520 and that

00:30:08.580 when you

00:30:09.040 do that

00:30:09.520 you thereby

00:30:10.320 protect

00:30:11.640 yourself

00:30:12.240 shelter

00:30:13.860 your family

00:30:14.660 keep

00:30:16.260 society

00:30:16.820 thriving

00:30:17.340 and

00:30:18.600 act as

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00:31:14.920 slash jbp

00:31:15.680 again that's

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00:31:17.120 slash jbp

00:31:18.200 which is what

00:31:22.320 Noah does

00:31:23.020 when he preserves

00:31:23.740 the animals

00:31:24.360 on the ark

00:31:25.060 his family

00:31:27.020 himself

00:31:28.080 his wife

00:31:28.740 his family

00:31:29.460 a microcosm

00:31:31.200 of society

00:31:31.820 and the natural

00:31:32.520 order itself

00:31:33.280 on the ark

00:31:34.300 he constructs

00:31:36.080 as a consequence

00:31:36.800 of attending

00:31:37.560 to the manifestation

00:31:38.620 of the ineffable

00:31:39.940 speaking within

00:31:41.220 that warns him

00:31:42.600 that chaos

00:31:43.660 is about to descend

00:31:44.820 and that brings

00:31:47.300 us to

00:31:47.840 the tower

00:31:50.720 of Babel

00:31:51.260 I don't know

00:31:54.680 if you've been

00:31:55.000 following the news

00:31:55.780 in recent days

00:31:56.720 I said that

00:31:59.500 the

00:31:59.800 children of Cain

00:32:01.740 were the engineers

00:32:02.560 but

00:32:05.020 but more

00:32:05.460 particularly

00:32:05.980 they're the

00:32:07.600 builders who

00:32:08.480 put what they

00:32:09.840 build in the

00:32:10.460 place that's

00:32:11.300 reserved for God

00:32:12.140 they're the

00:32:13.560 prideful

00:32:15.580 intellect's

00:32:16.180 temptation

00:32:16.780 to elevate

00:32:18.080 the technological

00:32:18.840 enterprise

00:32:19.440 to the highest

00:32:20.800 possible place

00:32:21.620 to look for

00:32:22.520 salvation in

00:32:23.680 the technological

00:32:25.060 realm

00:32:25.540 what happened

00:32:27.680 to Google

00:32:28.000 in the last

00:32:28.500 two days

00:32:28.980 the Google

00:32:31.280 engineers

00:32:31.920 along with

00:32:32.980 computer engineers

00:32:33.880 everywhere

00:32:34.240 are

00:32:34.720 madly engaged

00:32:36.860 in the

00:32:37.720 construction of

00:32:38.600 super intelligences

00:32:40.560 that have mapped

00:32:41.600 the domain

00:32:43.820 of

00:32:44.160 that have mapped

00:32:46.540 the domain

00:32:46.980 of the word

00:32:47.580 and Google

00:32:49.400 devoted its

00:32:51.020 AI project

00:32:52.560 to

00:32:53.060 unholy

00:32:55.000 ideological

00:32:56.400 propositions

00:32:57.300 and

00:32:59.020 produced a

00:33:00.800 super intelligence

00:33:01.620 whose image

00:33:03.380 making capacity

00:33:04.320 instantly

00:33:05.020 falsified

00:33:06.680 not only the

00:33:08.040 present but the

00:33:08.780 past in the

00:33:09.940 service of

00:33:10.580 those delusional

00:33:12.040 presumptions

00:33:12.760 that's a

00:33:15.680 tower of

00:33:16.160 Babel

00:33:16.560 this is the

00:33:18.300 story

00:33:18.700 and the

00:33:19.300 whole earth

00:33:19.800 was of one

00:33:20.440 language and

00:33:21.080 one speech

00:33:21.920 that's the

00:33:24.040 symbol on the

00:33:24.560 back of the

00:33:25.040 dollar bill

00:33:25.500 what does it

00:33:26.980 mean

00:33:27.280 it means there's

00:33:30.100 a hierarchy of

00:33:30.860 value

00:33:31.200 and that

00:33:33.500 everything within

00:33:34.560 that hierarchy of

00:33:35.300 value should be

00:33:35.860 devoted to one

00:33:36.580 thing

00:33:37.020 which is at

00:33:38.740 its apex

00:33:39.440 which isn't

00:33:41.180 part of the

00:33:41.880 thing but

00:33:42.420 rises above

00:33:43.620 it

00:33:44.040 that's associated

00:33:46.300 with clear

00:33:47.360 eyed vision

00:33:48.540 that's the

00:33:50.400 symbol of value

00:33:51.140 that your

00:33:51.660 economy is

00:33:52.800 predicated upon

00:33:53.580 this ancient

00:33:55.320 idea

00:33:55.800 why is that

00:33:59.020 of one

00:33:59.520 language and

00:34:00.100 of one speech

00:34:00.780 because a

00:34:05.300 hierarchy of

00:34:05.880 value that

00:34:07.100 has the

00:34:07.600 appropriate

00:34:08.280 attentive eye

00:34:10.320 at its

00:34:11.040 pinnacle

00:34:11.540 unites people

00:34:14.440 psychologically

00:34:15.200 and socially

00:34:17.460 to the degree

00:34:20.440 that your

00:34:20.900 country is

00:34:21.560 united

00:34:21.960 it's united

00:34:24.660 because

00:34:25.140 you all

00:34:27.420 act out

00:34:28.720 and

00:34:29.240 implicitly

00:34:30.360 believe

00:34:30.820 the same

00:34:32.220 story

00:34:32.620 and the

00:34:34.200 story is

00:34:34.760 symbolized

00:34:35.500 in that

00:34:37.780 image

00:34:38.100 what's at

00:34:39.840 the top

00:34:40.300 what does

00:34:42.100 Christ say

00:34:42.640 in the

00:34:42.860 gospels

00:34:43.260 there are

00:34:43.560 none so

00:34:44.040 blind as

00:34:44.600 those who

00:34:45.020 will not

00:34:45.520 see

00:34:45.880 well that's

00:34:47.280 the opposite

00:34:47.820 the symbol

00:34:48.780 is the

00:34:49.080 opposite of

00:34:49.680 that

00:34:49.920 the

00:34:51.200 story that

00:34:52.880 unites

00:34:53.360 man and

00:34:54.220 society

00:34:54.800 properly

00:34:55.660 places

00:34:56.800 the eye

00:34:58.540 that is

00:34:58.900 willing to

00:34:59.400 see whatever

00:35:00.200 is in

00:35:00.940 front of

00:35:01.340 it at

00:35:01.920 the pinnacle

00:35:02.460 of all

00:35:03.700 to the

00:35:05.780 degree that

00:35:06.180 a person

00:35:06.700 or a

00:35:07.100 society

00:35:07.520 unites

00:35:08.080 itself

00:35:08.760 under

00:35:09.100 that

00:35:09.520 singular

00:35:10.420 vision

00:35:11.460 then it

00:35:13.520 maintains

00:35:16.940 its

00:35:17.200 orientation

00:35:17.940 allows

00:35:21.280 people to

00:35:21.900 maintain

00:35:22.200 their hope

00:35:22.760 in relationship

00:35:23.440 to a

00:35:23.880 direction

00:35:24.340 stops

00:35:26.820 people from

00:35:27.620 experiencing

00:35:28.680 the anxiety

00:35:29.640 that a

00:35:30.700 multitude of

00:35:31.580 competing

00:35:32.300 directions

00:35:32.840 produces

00:35:33.360 and ensures

00:35:35.100 a productive

00:35:36.420 generous

00:35:37.180 social

00:35:37.820 unity

00:35:38.760 everyone

00:35:40.060 speaks the

00:35:40.820 same

00:35:41.040 language

00:35:41.460 what does

00:35:42.320 that mean

00:35:42.820 to speak

00:35:43.580 the same

00:35:43.940 language

00:35:44.320 it means

00:35:46.220 there's no

00:35:46.780 dispute about

00:35:47.560 what is a

00:35:48.260 woman

00:35:48.560 when the

00:35:50.020 Tower of

00:35:50.520 Babel

00:35:50.860 becomes

00:35:51.340 too

00:35:51.840 deviant

00:35:54.540 when it

00:35:55.200 aims

00:35:56.560 itself

00:35:57.180 sufficiently

00:35:59.240 far

00:35:59.780 off the

00:36:00.340 mark

00:36:00.700 words

00:36:02.020 themselves

00:36:02.580 lose

00:36:03.000 their

00:36:03.220 meaning

00:36:03.520 and

00:36:04.820 everything

00:36:05.740 collapses

00:36:06.400 in Babylon

00:36:07.600 the Tower of

00:36:08.800 Babel

00:36:09.200 Babel means

00:36:10.380 Babylon

00:36:10.940 Babylon

00:36:12.500 in the

00:36:14.060 biblical

00:36:14.560 corpus

00:36:15.020 stands for

00:36:15.860 the

00:36:16.780 presumptuous

00:36:17.560 civilization

00:36:18.500 Babylon

00:36:20.200 Rome

00:36:20.800 Canaan

00:36:21.420 Sodom

00:36:22.600 Gomorrah

00:36:23.160 there are

00:36:23.720 variants of

00:36:24.480 the idea of

00:36:25.600 civilization

00:36:26.280 gone astray

00:36:27.180 what's a

00:36:29.960 Tower of

00:36:30.420 Babel

00:36:30.780 well at

00:36:31.460 the time

00:36:31.920 in the

00:36:32.180 Middle

00:36:32.340 East

00:36:32.740 at the

00:36:33.720 time of

00:36:34.040 Babylonia

00:36:34.620 there were

00:36:35.680 literal

00:36:36.060 competitions

00:36:36.780 between

00:36:37.300 kings

00:36:37.800 to build

00:36:38.540 the highest

00:36:39.120 structure

00:36:40.880 the highest

00:36:41.540 ziggurat

00:36:42.020 the highest

00:36:42.660 pyramid

00:36:43.120 not for

00:36:45.920 the glorification

00:36:46.580 of God

00:36:47.380 let's say

00:36:48.060 not

00:36:48.760 to further

00:36:50.280 not even

00:36:51.180 to further

00:36:51.760 technological

00:36:52.380 development

00:36:52.880 as such

00:36:53.500 let's say

00:36:53.980 in the

00:36:54.300 service of

00:36:54.880 life more

00:36:55.360 abundant

00:36:55.740 for the

00:36:56.540 citizens of

00:36:57.220 a given

00:36:57.520 polity

00:36:57.940 but to

00:36:58.940 provide

00:37:01.440 the

00:37:01.840 emperors

00:37:03.160 the kings

00:37:04.380 and the

00:37:04.680 tyrants

00:37:05.060 who

00:37:05.380 funded

00:37:06.180 the

00:37:06.600 construction

00:37:07.540 with

00:37:09.080 means of

00:37:11.520 self-aggrandization

00:37:12.520 the higher

00:37:15.200 the tower

00:37:15.720 the more

00:37:17.380 the king

00:37:17.840 justified

00:37:18.540 his

00:37:18.980 the presumption

00:37:21.060 that he could

00:37:21.540 challenge the

00:37:22.200 divine order

00:37:22.860 the Egyptians

00:37:25.640 raised their

00:37:26.300 pharaohs to

00:37:26.860 the level

00:37:27.200 of gods

00:37:27.800 and so

00:37:29.360 did the

00:37:29.600 Romans

00:37:29.900 when their

00:37:30.460 society

00:37:32.040 deteriorated

00:37:32.900 it's the

00:37:34.620 it's in the

00:37:35.280 nature of an

00:37:35.960 overweening

00:37:36.560 tyranny to

00:37:37.380 elevate

00:37:38.200 its

00:37:39.620 earthly

00:37:40.820 representative

00:37:41.440 to the

00:37:42.520 status of

00:37:43.200 what should

00:37:43.600 be

00:37:43.960 ineffable

00:37:44.800 to the

00:37:45.680 status of

00:37:46.280 the ineffable

00:37:46.960 and transcendent

00:37:47.960 guiding spirit

00:37:48.740 and the

00:37:50.660 consequence of

00:37:51.400 that is

00:37:51.760 always that

00:37:52.560 the tower

00:37:53.980 comes crashing

00:37:54.580 down

00:37:54.960 it came to

00:37:56.420 pass as they

00:37:57.020 journeyed from

00:37:57.500 the east

00:37:57.840 that they

00:37:58.140 found a

00:37:58.500 plain in

00:37:58.920 the land

00:37:59.240 of

00:37:59.440 Shinar

00:37:59.720 and they

00:38:00.220 dwelt there

00:38:00.840 now there's a

00:38:02.320 back story to

00:38:03.000 this and the

00:38:03.520 back story is

00:38:04.180 something like

00:38:04.660 this is that

00:38:05.320 the people of

00:38:07.340 Shinar decided

00:38:08.220 to centralize

00:38:09.680 right and to

00:38:10.900 pass all

00:38:11.580 authority into a

00:38:12.700 centralized

00:38:13.120 authority

00:38:13.780 that's a good

00:38:14.800 way of thinking

00:38:15.220 about it

00:38:15.560 instead of

00:38:16.060 maintaining

00:38:16.660 responsibility

00:38:18.840 and authority

00:38:20.440 in a distributed

00:38:21.580 manner

00:38:22.080 they centralized

00:38:23.120 right so

00:38:24.840 you can think

00:38:25.360 of these

00:38:25.760 towers as

00:38:26.620 the attempt

00:38:27.460 to build a

00:38:28.200 top-down

00:38:29.040 utopia

00:38:29.620 that's a good

00:38:30.420 way of thinking

00:38:30.900 about it

00:38:31.380 a top-down

00:38:32.320 utopia

00:38:32.840 with the

00:38:33.680 wrong

00:38:34.160 spirit

00:38:35.980 constructing it

00:38:38.740 and at the

00:38:39.320 pinnacle

00:38:39.660 that's the

00:38:41.440 continual

00:38:42.100 technological

00:38:42.980 proclivity

00:38:44.320 of

00:38:44.820 the pridefully

00:38:46.640 obsessed

00:38:47.060 intellect

00:38:47.680 Cain

00:38:49.980 establishes

00:38:50.740 the pattern

00:38:51.180 of improper

00:38:51.840 sacrifice

00:38:53.080 Cain's

00:38:54.420 descendants

00:38:55.060 Cain becomes

00:38:56.060 fratricidal

00:38:57.260 and murderous

00:38:57.860 his descendants

00:38:58.700 become genocidal

00:39:00.000 and chaotic

00:39:01.300 and technologically

00:39:03.140 obsessed

00:39:03.740 the consequence

00:39:05.040 of the chaos

00:39:05.760 is the flood

00:39:06.600 that's the

00:39:07.480 destruction of

00:39:08.160 the world

00:39:08.660 by the return

00:39:10.580 of

00:39:10.900 chaos

00:39:12.040 the Tower

00:39:13.020 of Babel

00:39:13.540 is the

00:39:13.860 destruction of

00:39:14.420 the world

00:39:14.740 by

00:39:15.060 authoritarian

00:39:16.360 presumption

00:39:18.300 and those

00:39:19.680 are the

00:39:19.920 two

00:39:20.300 sociological

00:39:22.320 or political

00:39:23.300 catastrophes

00:39:24.140 that are

00:39:24.820 associated

00:39:25.320 with the

00:39:25.780 sin of

00:39:26.100 Cain

00:39:26.380 so what

00:39:27.560 does that

00:39:27.860 mean

00:39:28.140 if you

00:39:30.780 refuse to

00:39:32.500 offer your

00:39:32.900 best

00:39:33.300 and in

00:39:35.100 consequence

00:39:35.640 your

00:39:36.820 offerings

00:39:37.560 are rejected

00:39:38.320 you're

00:39:38.700 unsuccessful

00:39:39.300 you'll

00:39:40.440 become

00:39:40.680 bitter

00:39:40.960 and resentful

00:39:41.720 if you

00:39:44.420 determine to

00:39:45.200 nurse that

00:39:45.780 bitterness

00:39:46.080 and resentment

00:39:46.760 and let it

00:39:47.560 take you

00:39:48.180 where it

00:39:48.640 wants to

00:39:49.240 you'll become

00:39:51.160 the murderer

00:39:51.720 of your own

00:39:52.280 ideal

00:39:52.700 the destroyer

00:39:54.880 of your own

00:39:55.360 hope

00:39:55.780 and a rebel

00:39:57.380 against the

00:39:57.980 cosmic order

00:39:58.680 your descendants

00:40:00.460 will either

00:40:01.040 bring about

00:40:02.340 the flood

00:40:02.800 that eradicates

00:40:04.020 the world

00:40:04.500 or construct

00:40:05.660 the authoritarian

00:40:06.900 tower

00:40:08.740 that makes

00:40:09.840 everyone

00:40:11.620 whose inevitable

00:40:13.720 consequence

00:40:14.360 is

00:40:14.880 the degeneration

00:40:17.620 of society

00:40:18.600 into

00:40:19.080 incomprehensibility

00:40:21.120 so what's

00:40:23.040 a totalitarian

00:40:23.760 state

00:40:24.220 let's take

00:40:26.000 the soviet

00:40:26.500 union

00:40:26.800 who's god

00:40:28.040 in the soviet

00:40:28.600 union

00:40:28.940 well clearly

00:40:30.160 satan

00:40:30.700 but under

00:40:31.160 him

00:40:31.500 stalin

00:40:32.840 let's say

00:40:33.380 it's stalin

00:40:33.920 well what

00:40:34.580 does stalin

00:40:35.040 worship

00:40:35.400 power

00:40:35.940 okay

00:40:37.080 how is

00:40:37.920 language

00:40:38.440 demolished

00:40:39.500 under

00:40:39.760 stalin

00:40:40.240 what's a

00:40:42.440 totalitarian

00:40:43.020 state

00:40:43.500 you might

00:40:44.280 say well

00:40:44.660 it's the

00:40:45.040 top-down

00:40:45.580 imposition

00:40:46.160 of pathological

00:40:47.060 order

00:40:47.460 by a

00:40:48.540 handful

00:40:48.920 or even

00:40:49.400 a sole

00:40:49.940 actor

00:40:50.760 but that's

00:40:51.560 naive

00:40:51.920 because

00:40:52.920 one person

00:40:54.380 cannot control

00:40:55.200 20 million

00:40:55.780 people

00:40:56.200 it's not

00:40:58.020 possible

00:40:58.520 you need

00:40:59.600 an army

00:41:00.020 of willing

00:41:00.640 slaves

00:41:01.400 if you're

00:41:02.160 going to be

00:41:02.380 a tyrant

00:41:02.780 you need

00:41:03.140 an army

00:41:03.480 of willing

00:41:03.900 slaves

00:41:04.400 what sort

00:41:05.800 of slave

00:41:06.220 do you

00:41:06.500 have to

00:41:06.860 be

00:41:07.160 to be

00:41:07.780 tyrannized

00:41:08.400 by a

00:41:08.740 single

00:41:08.980 tyrant

00:41:09.460 how about

00:41:10.820 the kind

00:41:11.140 of slave

00:41:11.600 that

00:41:12.020 abandons

00:41:13.340 the meaning

00:41:14.220 of his

00:41:14.600 words

00:41:15.080 you've

00:41:17.400 all watched

00:41:17.880 Pinocchio

00:41:18.440 Pinocchio

00:41:20.020 is enticed

00:41:21.360 into

00:41:21.900 pleasure

00:41:22.840 seeking

00:41:23.300 by

00:41:24.460 the offer

00:41:25.900 of a

00:41:26.520 vacation

00:41:27.260 that he

00:41:28.240 deserves

00:41:28.860 because of

00:41:29.560 his neurotic

00:41:30.240 suffering

00:41:30.800 the

00:41:32.920 figure

00:41:34.180 that entices

00:41:34.960 him

00:41:35.380 to the

00:41:36.460 vacation

00:41:36.980 paradise

00:41:37.520 is the

00:41:38.540 coachman

00:41:39.220 who drives

00:41:40.660 the

00:41:41.120 chariot

00:41:42.720 let's say

00:41:43.360 full of

00:41:43.860 delinquents

00:41:44.500 to the

00:41:45.400 island of

00:41:46.240 hedonistic

00:41:47.280 pleasure

00:41:47.760 what happens

00:41:50.420 on the

00:41:51.880 island of

00:41:52.340 hedonistic

00:41:52.840 pleasure

00:41:53.300 the

00:41:54.320 juvenile

00:41:54.740 delinquents

00:41:55.360 destroy the

00:41:56.020 culture

00:41:56.400 and they

00:41:58.040 turn into

00:41:58.540 brain

00:41:59.000 jackasses

00:41:59.760 who can't

00:42:00.380 say a

00:42:01.160 word

00:42:01.500 and

00:42:03.480 underneath

00:42:04.420 the

00:42:05.000 palace

00:42:05.820 of

00:42:06.060 pleasure

00:42:06.480 are the

00:42:07.300 slavers

00:42:07.960 waiting to

00:42:09.240 enslave

00:42:09.700 them in

00:42:10.040 the

00:42:10.160 mines

00:42:10.580 why do

00:42:13.020 the boys

00:42:13.400 turn into

00:42:13.900 jackasses

00:42:14.720 because if

00:42:16.060 you sell

00:42:16.560 your soul

00:42:17.260 to the

00:42:17.660 devil in

00:42:18.480 return for

00:42:19.140 cheap

00:42:19.460 pleasure

00:42:19.880 your voice

00:42:21.920 will be

00:42:22.300 stolen

00:42:22.680 you'll

00:42:23.520 sacrifice

00:42:24.020 your voice

00:42:24.880 as an

00:42:25.300 offering

00:42:25.700 well that's

00:42:28.560 why the

00:42:28.860 words decay

00:42:29.740 right

00:42:31.020 because words

00:42:31.720 with no

00:42:32.240 truth have

00:42:32.800 no meaning

00:42:33.420 they're nothing

00:42:34.680 but babbles

00:42:35.480 the

00:42:37.260 totalitarian

00:42:38.320 presumption

00:42:40.580 is not so

00:42:41.380 much the

00:42:41.780 dominance of

00:42:42.560 otherwise

00:42:44.080 freedom-loving

00:42:45.100 citizens

00:42:46.480 by

00:42:47.260 a tyrant

00:42:48.820 but the

00:42:49.320 willingness of

00:42:49.940 every single

00:42:50.480 person

00:42:50.920 who dwells

00:42:52.220 inside that

00:42:52.820 tower

00:42:53.160 to

00:42:54.720 use

00:42:55.500 every word

00:42:56.420 they ever

00:42:56.980 utter

00:42:57.400 only to

00:42:59.760 represent

00:43:00.240 falsehood

00:43:01.020 to

00:43:02.160 maintain

00:43:02.800 the

00:43:03.200 tyrannical

00:43:04.020 tower

00:43:04.380 and to

00:43:04.800 enslave

00:43:05.220 themselves

00:43:05.700 the

00:43:06.520 totalitarian

00:43:07.180 state is

00:43:07.740 the

00:43:07.940 total grip

00:43:09.100 of the

00:43:09.420 lie

00:43:09.720 and the

00:43:10.880 lie

00:43:11.280 the grip

00:43:12.000 of the

00:43:12.240 lie

00:43:12.480 is no

00:43:12.940 different

00:43:13.300 than the

00:43:13.800 descent

00:43:14.280 of words

00:43:14.940 into

00:43:15.280 incomprehensibility

00:43:16.400 and so

00:43:17.400 you might want

00:43:17.920 to remember

00:43:18.260 that the next

00:43:18.800 time you're

00:43:19.240 called upon

00:43:19.900 at your

00:43:20.660 workplace

00:43:21.060 let's say

00:43:21.740 or even

00:43:22.400 in the

00:43:23.540 company of

00:43:24.000 your friends

00:43:24.540 to utter

00:43:26.520 words that

00:43:27.040 you know

00:43:27.380 to be

00:43:27.700 false

00:43:28.100 or to

00:43:28.800 remain

00:43:29.220 silent

00:43:29.680 when you're

00:43:30.140 called upon

00:43:30.660 by your

00:43:31.040 conscience

00:43:31.440 to say

00:43:31.940 something

00:43:32.300 that you

00:43:32.680 know

00:43:32.880 to be

00:43:33.160 true

00:43:33.420 you wonder

00:43:35.600 why we

00:43:36.080 can't agree

00:43:36.620 on the

00:43:36.960 most basic

00:43:37.580 facts

00:43:38.200 let's

00:43:38.900 say

00:43:39.180 such as

00:43:40.500 what is

00:43:42.080 a woman

00:43:42.500 the answer

00:43:44.100 could well

00:43:44.760 be that

00:43:45.360 we've built

00:43:46.780 towers of

00:43:47.480 babel

00:43:47.820 that are

00:43:48.300 a little

00:43:49.780 bit too

00:43:50.240 high

00:43:50.580 and a

00:43:51.300 little bit

00:43:51.660 too

00:43:51.900 presumptuous

00:43:52.680 centralized

00:43:54.800 authority

00:43:55.640 taking to

00:43:57.200 itself

00:43:57.760 the right

00:43:59.320 to reshape

00:44:00.420 the world

00:44:01.000 as a

00:44:01.720 consequence

00:44:02.120 of

00:44:02.460 nothing

00:44:02.860 but

00:44:03.200 technological

00:44:03.960 prowess

00:44:04.860 in the

00:44:06.620 service

00:44:06.960 of

00:44:07.260 false

00:44:07.700 gods

00:44:08.260 generates

00:44:11.180 a

00:44:12.040 technological

00:44:12.620 nightmare

00:44:13.200 that

00:44:15.020 destroys

00:44:16.360 meaning

00:44:16.720 itself

00:44:17.200 and they

00:44:19.960 said to

00:44:20.260 one another

00:44:20.640 go

00:44:21.000 to

00:44:21.720 let us

00:44:22.120 make

00:44:22.340 brick

00:44:22.640 and burn

00:44:23.040 them

00:44:23.240 thoroughly

00:44:23.600 and

00:44:23.860 they had

00:44:24.660 brick

00:44:24.880 for stone

00:44:25.400 and slime

00:44:25.960 they had

00:44:26.280 for mortar

00:44:26.640 now you

00:44:26.940 have to

00:44:27.280 understand

00:44:27.660 that

00:44:27.920 this

00:44:28.480 story

00:44:28.800 is not

00:44:29.220 about

00:44:29.560 the dangers

00:44:30.620 of

00:44:30.880 technology

00:44:31.400 per se

00:44:31.880 it's not

00:44:32.320 about

00:44:32.620 the evil

00:44:33.800 of

00:44:34.240 the

00:44:35.060 technological

00:44:35.580 enterprise

00:44:36.100 or the

00:44:36.520 evil

00:44:36.720 of

00:44:36.900 knowledge

00:44:37.240 it's

00:44:37.580 about

00:44:37.900 the

00:44:38.800 willingness

00:44:39.360 to put

00:44:40.200 the

00:44:40.460 technological

00:44:41.080 enterprise

00:44:41.820 it's

00:44:42.920 about the

00:44:43.560 willingness

00:44:43.820 to make

00:44:44.220 the

00:44:44.380 technological

00:44:44.840 enterprise

00:44:45.400 take the

00:44:45.820 place of

00:44:46.220 God

00:44:46.480 right

00:44:47.500 you can

00:44:48.440 think about

00:44:48.800 it this

00:44:49.080 way

00:44:49.340 we have

00:44:51.400 hydrogen

00:44:51.860 bombs

00:44:52.360 that's a

00:44:54.760 pretty close

00:44:55.260 technological

00:44:55.940 approximation

00:44:56.520 to God

00:44:57.220 do we

00:44:58.380 have the

00:44:58.680 wisdom

00:44:58.960 to

00:44:59.560 use

00:45:01.300 them

00:45:01.500 or not

00:45:01.920 use

00:45:02.180 them

00:45:02.360 wisely

00:45:02.820 that's

00:45:05.380 not a

00:45:05.640 technological

00:45:06.080 question

00:45:06.700 a

00:45:08.700 technology

00:45:09.180 that's

00:45:09.580 not

00:45:10.000 in the

00:45:11.380 service

00:45:11.740 of what

00:45:12.160 is put

00:45:12.540 in the

00:45:12.840 highest

00:45:13.180 place

00:45:13.880 becomes

00:45:14.820 the spirit

00:45:16.260 that builds

00:45:16.800 the tower

00:45:17.260 of Babel

00:45:17.740 and makes

00:45:18.160 it impossible

00:45:18.680 for people

00:45:19.240 to live

00:45:19.640 together

00:45:19.980 or to

00:45:20.320 communicate

00:45:20.720 and that's

00:45:22.200 happening

00:45:22.500 around us

00:45:22.980 with incredible

00:45:23.580 rapidity

00:45:24.160 and they

00:45:25.740 said

00:45:25.960 go to

00:45:26.420 let us

00:45:26.800 build a

00:45:27.180 city

00:45:27.360 and a

00:45:27.620 tower

00:45:27.880 whose

00:45:28.120 top

00:45:28.480 may

00:45:28.660 reach

00:45:29.020 unto

00:45:29.260 heaven

00:45:29.620 that's

00:45:31.060 the

00:45:31.260 motif

00:45:31.700 of

00:45:31.980 the

00:45:32.140 displacement

00:45:32.700 of

00:45:33.140 what

00:45:33.740 is

00:45:34.180 properly

00:45:36.440 ineffable

00:45:37.860 and

00:45:38.340 transcendent

00:45:39.320 that's

00:45:40.120 the

00:45:40.280 replacement

00:45:40.780 of the

00:45:41.520 transpersonal

00:45:43.680 cosmic

00:45:44.040 order

00:45:44.400 with the

00:45:45.000 the

00:45:45.960 doctrines

00:45:46.440 that

00:45:46.660 currently

00:45:47.180 dominate

00:45:49.100 there is a

00:45:51.920 reason the

00:45:52.480 communists

00:45:53.040 attempted to

00:45:53.800 eradicate the

00:45:54.480 religious

00:45:54.780 enterprise

00:45:55.220 the reason

00:45:57.420 was that

00:45:57.960 the

00:45:58.920 communist

00:45:59.820 dogma

00:46:00.360 and the

00:46:01.740 prophets

00:46:02.100 of the

00:46:02.440 communist

00:46:03.400 dogma

00:46:04.020 wanted to

00:46:05.760 replace the

00:46:06.380 entire

00:46:06.920 enterprise

00:46:09.040 devoted toward

00:46:09.820 transcendence

00:46:10.560 with themselves

00:46:11.220 and we all

00:46:13.440 know the

00:46:13.740 consequences

00:46:14.240 all of us

00:46:15.380 who want to

00:46:15.940 know the

00:46:16.480 consequences

00:46:17.040 of that

00:46:17.420 all of us

00:46:18.720 who want to

00:46:19.140 know know

00:46:19.520 that the

00:46:19.940 consequence

00:46:20.320 of that

00:46:20.760 was the

00:46:21.160 descent of

00:46:21.740 an entire

00:46:22.160 civilization

00:46:22.880 into a

00:46:23.800 hell that

00:46:24.200 destroyed tens

00:46:24.900 of millions

00:46:25.260 of people

00:46:25.720 and not

00:46:26.700 just in

00:46:27.160 Soviet

00:46:27.520 Union

00:46:27.880 in

00:46:28.540 Maoist

00:46:28.880 China

00:46:29.160 still in

00:46:29.700 North

00:46:29.900 Korea

00:46:30.260 still in

00:46:31.700 communist

00:46:32.060 China

00:46:32.460 for that

00:46:32.880 matter

00:46:33.200 because

00:46:34.200 everything

00:46:34.600 that's going

00:46:35.180 to happen

00:46:35.640 in communist

00:46:36.200 China

00:46:36.560 has not

00:46:37.060 yet

00:46:37.320 happened

00:46:37.700 you can

00:46:38.060 be sure

00:46:38.460 of that

00:46:38.980 do you

00:46:40.480 know that

00:46:40.800 the Chinese

00:46:41.260 engineers

00:46:41.920 have built

00:46:42.400 Skynet

00:46:42.980 do you

00:46:44.220 remember

00:46:44.500 Skynet

00:46:45.020 from the

00:46:45.540 Terminator

00:46:45.940 do you

00:46:46.960 know that

00:46:47.240 the Chinese

00:46:47.740 called their

00:46:48.560 700 million

00:46:50.340 closed circuit

00:46:51.180 TV camera

00:46:52.080 monitoring

00:46:52.640 system

00:46:53.180 that recognize

00:46:54.140 everyone's

00:46:54.880 faces and

00:46:55.520 everyone's

00:46:56.080 gate

00:46:56.460 you know

00:46:57.020 they call

00:46:57.380 that Skynet

00:46:58.220 do you

00:46:59.200 know the

00:46:59.460 engineers

00:46:59.860 who were

00:47:00.160 asked about

00:47:00.620 that said

00:47:01.180 we're

00:47:01.780 building

00:47:02.140 the good

00:47:02.660 Skynet

00:47:03.400 you know

00:47:05.000 how close

00:47:05.540 we are

00:47:05.880 to that

00:47:06.260 here

00:47:06.600 the technology

00:47:09.360 is there

00:47:09.760 we copied

00:47:10.480 the Chinese

00:47:11.080 during the

00:47:11.680 pandemic

00:47:12.420 if you don't

00:47:15.060 think that we

00:47:15.500 could do that

00:47:15.900 again you're

00:47:16.380 sadly mistaken

00:47:17.240 and you

00:47:18.280 might ask

00:47:18.680 well what

00:47:19.020 would protect

00:47:19.520 us against

00:47:20.060 that and

00:47:20.960 the answer

00:47:21.360 is something

00:47:21.880 like the

00:47:23.720 willingness of

00:47:24.300 each of us

00:47:24.900 that the

00:47:25.880 devotion that

00:47:26.600 each of us

00:47:27.180 must manifest

00:47:27.920 to what

00:47:28.480 should be

00:47:28.900 properly put

00:47:29.540 in the

00:47:29.740 highest place

00:47:30.420 and it's

00:47:31.860 not the

00:47:32.220 technological

00:47:32.760 utopia

00:47:33.460 that the

00:47:34.460 power addled

00:47:35.360 engineers

00:47:35.940 present us

00:47:38.220 with that's

00:47:40.200 what's happening

00:47:40.660 in China

00:47:41.180 they're going

00:47:42.840 to produce

00:47:43.440 our

00:47:43.820 totalitarian

00:47:45.100 state that's

00:47:45.720 so complete

00:47:46.260 that George

00:47:47.280 Orwell himself

00:47:48.000 couldn't have

00:47:49.620 imagined it

00:47:50.220 in his worst

00:47:50.900 nightmares

00:47:51.620 700 million

00:47:53.880 closed circuit

00:47:54.760 TV cameras

00:47:55.460 watching absolutely

00:47:57.360 everything you do

00:47:58.160 every single

00:47:59.160 thing you purchase

00:48:00.200 tracked

00:48:00.800 every place

00:48:02.080 you go

00:48:02.460 monitored

00:48:02.920 every word

00:48:03.720 you say

00:48:04.280 recorded

00:48:06.200 analyzed

00:48:07.600 assessed

00:48:08.460 by artificial

00:48:09.620 intelligence

00:48:10.440 you saw

00:48:13.020 the artificial

00:48:13.560 intelligence

00:48:14.160 that the

00:48:14.580 google

00:48:14.780 engineers

00:48:15.220 just

00:48:15.500 produced

00:48:15.940 how would

00:48:17.080 you like

00:48:17.360 that

00:48:17.560 monitoring

00:48:18.000 absolutely

00:48:18.780 everything

00:48:19.380 you do

00:48:19.900 for the

00:48:20.240 rest of

00:48:20.620 your

00:48:20.740 life

00:48:21.100 let us

00:48:24.820 build a

00:48:25.300 tower

00:48:25.560 in a

00:48:25.820 city

00:48:26.020 whose

00:48:26.240 taught

00:48:26.660 may

00:48:26.860 reach

00:48:27.260 unto

00:48:27.520 heaven

00:48:27.940 luciferian

00:48:29.440 presumption

00:48:30.080 let us

00:48:30.920 make a

00:48:31.320 name

00:48:31.700 lest we

00:48:33.240 be scattered

00:48:33.760 abroad

00:48:34.180 upon the

00:48:34.660 face of

00:48:35.100 the whole

00:48:35.420 earth

00:48:35.740 and the

00:48:37.320 Lord came

00:48:37.840 down to

00:48:38.380 see the

00:48:38.860 city and

00:48:39.300 the tower

00:48:39.760 which the

00:48:40.540 children of

00:48:41.040 men

00:48:41.280 build it

00:48:41.780 how is

00:48:43.440 God

00:48:43.680 characterized

00:48:44.100 in this

00:48:44.660 story

00:48:45.040 the God

00:48:45.620 we wrestle

00:48:46.160 with

00:48:46.520 let's say

00:48:47.140 how is

00:48:48.000 God

00:48:48.200 characterized

00:48:48.560 in this

00:48:49.000 story

00:48:49.260 God is

00:48:50.640 the spirit

00:48:51.100 that punishes

00:48:52.280 presumption

00:48:52.820 God is

00:48:53.560 the spirit

00:48:53.980 that punishes

00:48:55.240 intellectual

00:48:56.060 presumption

00:48:56.620 the sin of

00:48:59.320 Adam and Eve

00:48:59.880 is a sin

00:49:00.580 of pride

00:49:01.180 the sin of

00:49:01.960 Cain is a

00:49:02.600 sin of

00:49:02.880 pride

00:49:03.220 Cain

00:49:04.100 believes that

00:49:04.680 he can

00:49:04.960 offer what's

00:49:05.680 second best

00:49:06.300 and

00:49:07.320 benefit and

00:49:09.340 escape from

00:49:09.920 notice

00:49:10.180 he believes

00:49:10.700 that he

00:49:10.960 can offer

00:49:11.360 what's

00:49:11.620 second best

00:49:12.120 and fool

00:49:12.500 himself

00:49:12.960 and fool

00:49:13.700 the people

00:49:14.100 he's around

00:49:14.700 and adapt

00:49:16.060 to the world

00:49:16.660 and pull

00:49:17.340 the wool

00:49:17.660 over the

00:49:18.780 eyes of

00:49:19.160 God

00:49:19.440 pride

00:49:20.440 pride goes

00:49:23.480 before a

00:49:24.000 fall

00:49:24.280 what punishes

00:49:25.560 pride

00:49:26.040 that's part of

00:49:28.300 the biblical

00:49:28.720 characterization

00:49:29.440 do you believe

00:49:31.520 in God

00:49:32.080 do you believe

00:49:33.200 there's a spirit

00:49:33.800 that punishes

00:49:34.500 pride

00:49:34.980 has that

00:49:37.600 spirit made

00:49:38.160 itself manifest

00:49:38.840 in your own

00:49:39.420 life

00:49:39.720 are those

00:49:40.740 times that

00:49:41.460 you overreach

00:49:42.260 yourself

00:49:42.700 especially when

00:49:43.580 you know that

00:49:44.140 you've overreached

00:49:44.780 yourself

00:49:45.200 and you fail

00:49:46.200 in consequence

00:49:46.980 is that

00:49:47.820 is that the

00:49:48.940 just and

00:49:50.240 merciful unfolding

00:49:51.180 of the cosmic

00:49:51.780 order

00:49:52.140 if it's not

00:49:53.780 then why does

00:49:54.380 your conscience

00:49:54.960 call you out

00:49:56.040 when you

00:49:56.620 in the aftermath

00:49:57.980 of that error

00:49:58.840 of that overreaching

00:50:00.820 of that presumption

00:50:02.200 and the Lord

00:50:04.220 came down

00:50:04.720 to see the

00:50:05.420 city

00:50:05.780 and the tower

00:50:06.740 which the

00:50:07.180 children of

00:50:07.640 men built

00:50:08.200 and the Lord

00:50:08.980 said

00:50:09.260 behold the

00:50:10.580 people are

00:50:11.380 united

00:50:11.800 and they all

00:50:12.460 have one

00:50:12.800 language

00:50:13.160 and this

00:50:13.760 they begin

00:50:14.300 to do

00:50:14.720 and now

00:50:16.560 nothing will

00:50:17.200 be restrained

00:50:18.620 from them

00:50:19.100 go to

00:50:20.580 let us go

00:50:21.100 down there

00:50:21.500 and confound

00:50:22.240 their language

00:50:22.960 that they may

00:50:23.920 not understand

00:50:24.600 one another's

00:50:25.240 speech

00:50:25.520 no

00:50:26.180 for centuries

00:50:28.220 even

00:50:28.620 it depends

00:50:30.200 on the

00:50:30.500 interpretation

00:50:30.940 that the

00:50:31.840 casual

00:50:32.200 interpretation

00:50:32.720 of the

00:50:33.200 Tower of

00:50:33.600 Babel

00:50:33.900 is that

00:50:34.220 this is

00:50:34.600 the attempt

00:50:35.060 by superstitious

00:50:35.900 people

00:50:36.300 to

00:50:37.220 hypothesize

00:50:39.280 about the

00:50:39.660 origin of

00:50:40.140 multiple

00:50:40.460 languages

00:50:40.900 that's not

00:50:42.680 what it

00:50:42.900 means at

00:50:43.400 all

00:50:43.780 it means

00:50:46.020 that the

00:50:46.800 consequence

00:50:47.240 of

00:50:47.740 centralized

00:50:50.540 unidimensional

00:50:53.360 prideful

00:50:55.140 mad

00:50:56.480 power

00:50:57.120 seeking

00:50:57.520 is

00:50:58.540 a

00:50:59.780 fractionization

00:51:00.500 and atomization

00:51:01.300 of the

00:51:01.580 society

00:51:01.940 that's

00:51:02.220 so

00:51:02.360 complete

00:51:02.720 that

00:51:02.980 no

00:51:03.840 one

00:51:04.580 person

00:51:05.000 can

00:51:05.280 understand

00:51:05.900 anyone

00:51:06.420 else

00:51:06.860 that's a

00:51:09.440 vision of

00:51:09.900 hell

00:51:10.240 the collapse

00:51:12.560 of the

00:51:12.980 Tower of

00:51:13.480 Babel

00:51:13.840 and it's

00:51:15.200 a vision

00:51:15.520 of inevitability

00:51:16.300 because the

00:51:16.820 idea is

00:51:17.360 that

00:51:17.640 any

00:51:19.300 system

00:51:20.320 of

00:51:20.780 unified

00:51:21.680 totalitarian

00:51:22.900 power

00:51:23.600 will inevitably

00:51:25.100 degenerate

00:51:26.440 into

00:51:26.900 mutual

00:51:27.800 incomprehensibility

00:51:28.780 and collapse

00:51:29.600 and you

00:51:30.700 can ask

00:51:31.020 yourself

00:51:31.280 well do you

00:51:31.640 believe that

00:51:32.100 that's the

00:51:32.460 case

00:51:32.720 like well

00:51:33.540 how how

00:51:35.160 else do you

00:51:35.660 approach the

00:51:36.120 history of the

00:51:36.620 20th century

00:51:37.280 what happened

00:51:38.440 repeatedly to

00:51:39.660 the various

00:51:40.260 towers of

00:51:40.800 Babel's that

00:51:41.300 we built

00:51:41.620 politically

00:51:41.980 what happened

00:51:42.540 to the

00:51:43.900 Soviet Union

00:51:44.420 what happened

00:51:44.940 to Nazi

00:51:45.680 Germany

00:51:46.040 what happened

00:51:46.600 to Maoist

00:51:47.120 China

00:51:47.420 what happened

00:51:47.920 to Cambodia

00:51:48.520 what happened

00:51:49.500 every single

00:51:50.920 time

00:51:51.420 people

00:51:53.180 in their

00:51:53.920 intellectual

00:51:54.560 pride

00:51:55.080 attempted

00:51:55.760 to build

00:51:56.460 a structure

00:51:57.780 that was

00:51:58.260 oriented

00:51:58.820 toward

00:51:59.460 some

00:52:00.320 destination

00:52:01.020 other than

00:52:01.980 what

00:52:02.720 should

00:52:03.480 properly

00:52:04.020 be placed

00:52:04.680 in the

00:52:05.000 highest

00:52:05.260 place

00:52:05.700 the answer

00:52:07.460 is

00:52:07.760 people

00:52:08.260 degenerated

00:52:08.980 into

00:52:09.240 mutual

00:52:09.620 incomprehensibility

00:52:10.660 chaos

00:52:12.320 emerged

00:52:13.020 and

00:52:14.080 we built

00:52:15.400 hell

00:52:15.820 not

00:52:17.620 the hell

00:52:18.620 we could

00:52:19.000 still yet

00:52:19.620 build

00:52:19.980 and that's

00:52:21.020 for sure

00:52:21.540 so what

00:52:23.480 does that

00:52:23.760 mean with

00:52:24.120 regards to

00:52:24.840 you Americans

00:52:26.120 your society

00:52:30.700 is remarkably

00:52:31.400 robust and

00:52:32.120 resilient

00:52:32.460 and it's

00:52:33.840 remarkably

00:52:34.280 free

00:52:34.700 I don't

00:52:35.760 think it's

00:52:36.200 any exaggeration

00:52:37.280 to claim

00:52:38.900 that you

00:52:39.480 have the

00:52:40.020 freest and

00:52:40.600 most resilient

00:52:41.160 society in

00:52:41.820 the world

00:52:42.100 so what's

00:52:43.560 great about

00:52:43.980 your countries

00:52:44.640 well

00:52:47.500 you have

00:52:48.480 your

00:52:49.780 countries

00:52:50.140 predicated

00:52:50.660 on the

00:52:51.000 notion

00:52:51.260 that you

00:52:51.840 are each

00:52:52.380 created in

00:52:52.940 the image

00:52:53.280 of God

00:52:53.700 and that

00:52:54.020 you have

00:52:54.440 a domain

00:52:54.940 of

00:52:55.360 intrinsic

00:52:57.860 worth

00:52:58.260 that manifests

00:52:59.940 itself in

00:53:00.500 two ways

00:53:00.940 one it

00:53:02.060 manifests itself

00:53:02.900 as your

00:53:03.420 rights in

00:53:04.540 relationship to

00:53:05.240 the state

00:53:05.720 not that the

00:53:07.280 state grants

00:53:07.960 them but that

00:53:09.000 the state is

00:53:09.600 to find its

00:53:10.300 limit at the

00:53:11.440 border of

00:53:11.960 the rights

00:53:13.180 that are

00:53:13.880 intrinsically

00:53:15.560 yours as a

00:53:16.140 consequence of

00:53:17.160 your

00:53:18.740 essentially

00:53:19.360 valuable

00:53:19.760 nature

00:53:20.160 and

00:53:21.520 associated

00:53:22.060 with that

00:53:22.480 is a

00:53:22.780 commensurate

00:53:23.160 responsibility

00:53:23.860 with every

00:53:24.340 right there's

00:53:24.840 a responsibility

00:53:25.500 and so

00:53:26.060 the responsibility

00:53:27.120 that each

00:53:27.720 of you

00:53:28.080 bear as

00:53:29.100 sovereign

00:53:29.980 citizens

00:53:30.580 is the

00:53:32.160 responsibility

00:53:32.800 to maintain

00:53:34.600 order within

00:53:35.240 your lives

00:53:35.740 maintain

00:53:36.380 and produce

00:53:37.740 the order

00:53:38.100 that's good

00:53:38.520 within the

00:53:38.980 confines of

00:53:39.460 your life

00:53:39.740 to take

00:53:40.240 care of

00:53:40.500 yourself

00:53:40.880 and to

00:53:41.400 find the

00:53:41.720 adventure

00:53:42.140 of your

00:53:42.600 life

00:53:42.900 in that

00:53:44.000 ability to

00:53:44.920 be the

00:53:45.240 captain of

00:53:45.760 your own

00:53:46.120 ship

00:53:46.400 the master

00:53:47.200 of your

00:53:47.460 own destiny

00:53:47.920 to do that

00:53:48.800 well enough

00:53:49.240 so that you

00:53:49.820 can dare

00:53:50.340 marry

00:53:50.780 to do that

00:53:52.000 well enough

00:53:52.440 so that you

00:53:52.960 can take

00:53:53.460 care of a

00:53:53.820 family

00:53:54.160 so that you

00:53:54.900 can be of

00:53:55.300 service to

00:53:55.800 your community

00:53:56.360 so that you

00:53:57.020 can serve

00:53:57.600 your state

00:53:58.240 and your

00:53:59.000 country

00:53:59.440 under God

00:54:00.280 that distributed

00:54:01.980 responsibility

00:54:02.620 that's the

00:54:03.320 alternative to

00:54:04.060 the Tower

00:54:04.440 of Babel

00:54:04.940 that's laid

00:54:06.500 out very

00:54:06.880 clearly by the

00:54:07.520 way in the

00:54:08.660 book of

00:54:08.960 Exodus where

00:54:09.880 the concept of

00:54:10.640 subsidiarity

00:54:11.420 emerges

00:54:11.940 and the

00:54:12.560 concept of

00:54:13.120 subsidiarity

00:54:13.820 is a

00:54:14.080 vision of

00:54:14.540 a hierarchy

00:54:15.400 of distributed

00:54:16.060 responsibility

00:54:16.740 that's the

00:54:17.560 antidote to

00:54:18.720 slavery and

00:54:19.200 tyranny

00:54:19.520 you can see

00:54:20.900 that reflected

00:54:21.440 in your

00:54:21.740 political structure

00:54:22.480 because there's

00:54:23.200 no it

00:54:24.080 it resists

00:54:24.880 centralization

00:54:25.680 you have a

00:54:26.760 division of

00:54:27.220 power

00:54:27.540 but more than

00:54:29.460 that you

00:54:29.780 have a

00:54:30.160 you have a

00:54:31.460 state of

00:54:32.440 states and

00:54:33.520 the states

00:54:34.240 themselves like

00:54:35.020 the towns

00:54:35.560 and the cities

00:54:36.140 have their

00:54:36.780 domains of

00:54:37.400 power and

00:54:37.860 responsibility

00:54:38.420 and so

00:54:39.900 the authority

00:54:41.420 that could be

00:54:41.980 centralized in

00:54:42.780 a single

00:54:43.260 entity is

00:54:45.740 distributed across

00:54:46.800 the entire

00:54:47.340 pyramid all

00:54:49.260 the way down

00:54:49.620 to the

00:54:49.840 individual and

00:54:51.460 that makes

00:54:51.860 your society

00:54:52.480 remarkably robust

00:54:53.480 one of the

00:54:53.860 things that I've

00:54:54.420 observed as a

00:54:55.040 Canadian watching

00:54:55.740 you Americans

00:54:56.300 for like 50

00:54:57.180 years I can

00:54:59.540 remember in the

00:55:00.020 1980s there

00:55:00.860 was a

00:55:02.120 widespread fear

00:55:02.800 that Japan was

00:55:03.540 going to emerge

00:55:04.200 as the

00:55:05.040 reigning

00:55:06.240 financial

00:55:06.960 master of

00:55:08.300 the world

00:55:08.620 and that

00:55:11.340 threat seemed

00:55:12.480 to be credible

00:55:13.060 for about five

00:55:13.740 years six

00:55:15.180 years something

00:55:15.640 like that and

00:55:16.160 Japan centralized

00:55:16.900 and you

00:55:17.840 Americans didn't

00:55:18.600 and there are

00:55:19.420 plenty of places

00:55:20.000 in your country

00:55:20.560 that weren't

00:55:21.140 doing the right

00:55:21.680 thing but there

00:55:22.140 were plenty of

00:55:22.580 places that were

00:55:23.160 doing the right

00:55:23.700 thing and out

00:55:24.700 of those places

00:55:26.020 that continued to

00:55:26.860 do the right

00:55:27.320 thing new

00:55:28.300 abundance

00:55:30.120 flourished and

00:55:31.620 you do that all

00:55:32.200 the time you

00:55:33.360 did that again in

00:55:33.960 the 1990s and

00:55:35.440 it's a consequence

00:55:36.060 of the manner

00:55:36.620 in which your

00:55:37.060 state is

00:55:37.440 structured right

00:55:38.340 from the

00:55:38.660 individual upward

00:55:39.420 it's a consequence

00:55:40.580 also of your

00:55:41.380 willingness as

00:55:42.000 individual citizens

00:55:42.820 and I also see

00:55:43.460 this as characteristics

00:55:44.320 of the United

00:55:44.700 States one of the

00:55:45.600 things that

00:55:45.960 characterizes your

00:55:46.740 society that's

00:55:47.520 very unique and

00:55:49.900 maybe unique even

00:55:50.700 among western

00:55:51.240 countries is that

00:55:52.120 you wholeheartedly

00:55:54.240 admire productive

00:55:56.220 generous competence

00:55:57.220 that's at the

00:55:58.540 core of the

00:55:59.000 American dream

00:55:59.680 right if people

00:56:01.260 in this country

00:56:02.360 people who make

00:56:04.080 it in

00:56:05.040 consequence of

00:56:05.800 their own

00:56:06.360 honest and

00:56:07.500 upward striving

00:56:08.200 efforts are

00:56:09.200 genuinely admired

00:56:10.220 and that's your

00:56:12.060 wealth really

00:56:13.620 and that's also

00:56:16.540 your recognition

00:56:17.260 that technological

00:56:19.260 prowess and even

00:56:20.360 material abundance

00:56:21.480 can be positive

00:56:23.740 goods if they're

00:56:25.080 put in the right

00:56:25.740 place

00:56:26.140 that's like anger

00:56:29.180 and that's like

00:56:29.720 sexuality and that's

00:56:30.840 like fear all of

00:56:32.240 these things can be

00:56:32.900 beneficial in the

00:56:33.720 right place

00:56:34.360 that ambitious

00:56:35.740 striving that

00:56:37.160 makes your land

00:56:38.200 rich and rife with

00:56:39.900 opportunity and

00:56:40.740 possibility and

00:56:41.540 beauty and cultural

00:56:42.920 richness is a

00:56:45.400 consequence of the

00:56:47.460 positioning of that

00:56:48.780 material ability and

00:56:50.300 security and

00:56:50.940 opportunity in the

00:56:52.300 proper place in the

00:56:54.020 hierarchy of values

00:56:55.100 that strives

00:56:55.900 properly upward

00:56:56.880 you're the founders

00:56:59.400 of your republic knew

00:57:01.260 this because they

00:57:02.080 understood that your

00:57:03.960 rights were self

00:57:04.780 evident as a

00:57:07.180 consequence of the

00:57:08.060 embeddedness of your

00:57:09.000 culture in an

00:57:09.680 underlying in the

00:57:10.420 underlying judeo-christian

00:57:11.600 tradition that produced

00:57:12.740 that positioned what was

00:57:15.220 properly sovereign above

00:57:16.960 everything that was

00:57:17.800 political and beyond

00:57:19.640 above and beyond

00:57:20.680 everything that was

00:57:21.360 merely political and

00:57:23.020 that simultaneously

00:57:23.660 called upon each

00:57:24.720 citizen and the

00:57:26.280 leaders of the

00:57:27.040 citizens to pursue

00:57:28.960 their individual

00:57:30.460 pursuits and their

00:57:31.700 political endeavors in

00:57:33.980 light of their

00:57:34.700 commitment to what was

00:57:35.720 properly put in the

00:57:36.480 highest place and that

00:57:37.980 is precisely what's

00:57:39.460 made your country rich

00:57:40.420 i don't know if you

00:57:42.880 know of an economic

00:57:43.800 phenomenon called the

00:57:44.640 resource curse

00:57:45.400 people especially of the

00:57:48.720 leftist persuasion

00:57:49.680 believe that countries are

00:57:51.280 wealthy because of natural

00:57:52.540 resources but there is no

00:57:54.360 relationship between the

00:57:55.620 natural resources of a

00:57:56.580 given country and its

00:57:57.320 wealth in fact the

00:57:59.240 relationship statistical

00:58:00.320 relationship is slightly

00:58:01.340 negative why because

00:58:05.100 unearned wealth is an

00:58:07.220 invitation to corruption

00:58:08.600 and instability and

00:58:10.260 that's what happens in

00:58:11.260 resource rich countries

00:58:12.960 your country is rich

00:58:15.660 because your people are by

00:58:17.620 and large ethical your

00:58:18.880 country is rich because by

00:58:20.260 and large the default

00:58:21.260 transaction between

00:58:22.780 individuals in the united

00:58:23.960 states is honest there is

00:58:26.460 no other natural resource

00:58:27.720 than the truth that

00:58:29.340 makes honest trade

00:58:32.260 between strangers

00:58:33.180 possible with that in

00:58:34.980 place every desert can

00:58:36.220 bloom that's why la

00:58:38.400 exists well i mean it

00:58:40.680 it was a desert the

00:58:42.820 entire western part of

00:58:43.840 your country was

00:58:45.100 uninhabitable it's the

00:58:47.020 cooperative productive

00:58:48.620 generosity of your

00:58:49.740 citizenry that made that

00:58:51.240 harsh environment not

00:58:53.560 only habitable but

00:58:54.860 wealthy that's a

00:58:57.080 consequence of the

00:58:58.160 orientation of your

00:58:59.620 society not towards

00:59:01.200 these tower towers of

00:59:04.080 this tower of babel

00:59:05.000 gigantism but towards its

00:59:07.040 distributed responsibility

00:59:10.240 and rights and its

00:59:11.700 orientation towards the

00:59:14.880 proper uppermost goal

00:59:16.000 therefore is the name of

00:59:18.120 it called babel because

00:59:19.540 the lord did there

00:59:20.360 confound the language of

00:59:22.320 all the earth and from

00:59:23.680 thence did the lord

00:59:24.480 scatter them abroad upon

00:59:26.040 the face of all the

00:59:27.640 earth the fundamental

00:59:29.980 characterization of god

00:59:31.520 in the opening chapters of

00:59:34.280 genesis is that god is the

00:59:35.840 spirit that

00:59:36.620 orients of itself upward

00:59:39.800 and

00:59:40.400 transforms chaotic

00:59:43.220 possibility into the order

00:59:44.560 that's habitable and good

00:59:45.800 that's the garden in which

00:59:48.360 man is placed man is a

00:59:50.340 and woman because it's

00:59:51.800 in it's insisted upon in

00:59:53.600 the text that this

00:59:54.520 characterization applies to

00:59:56.460 both sexes men and

00:59:58.080 women are made in the image

00:59:58.980 of god and so they are

01:00:00.320 reflections of the

01:00:02.440 proclivity to bring order

01:00:04.840 to chaos

01:00:05.360 we bring order to chaos

01:00:08.640 through the practice of

01:00:10.320 proper sacrifice what does

01:00:11.800 that mean to put things in

01:00:13.100 their proper place to aim up

01:00:14.420 and to let go of everything

01:00:15.920 that interferes with that

01:00:16.940 aim to make the proper

01:00:18.100 sacrifices that establishes

01:00:19.900 the appropriate order we

01:00:21.560 deviate from that sacrifice

01:00:24.580 at our peril the pathway of

01:00:27.280 insufficient sacrifice leads

01:00:29.400 to

01:00:29.820 murder and chaos and

01:00:32.680 totalitarianism and genocide

01:00:34.360 the pathway upward eternally

01:00:38.400 produces the order that's

01:00:39.600 benevolent and good that

01:00:41.000 allows us life more abundant

01:00:43.260 and the freedom to pursue it

01:00:45.080 to

01:00:45.860 steward the garden properly

01:00:48.540 and to

01:00:49.160 to walk on self-consciously

01:00:52.500 with god as we

01:00:53.580 proceed our way up

01:00:55.040 jacob's ladder

01:00:55.700 so thank you very much

01:00:57.720 amazing

01:00:59.020 thank you very much

01:01:02.800 too

01:01:03.420 "'

01:01:07.300 much

01:01:12.160 you

The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - June 23, 2025

Jordan Peterson Live on Tour： There Are Still Dreams Worth Chasing

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