The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - January 23, 2024


My Clinical License Is as Good as Gone


Episode Stats

Length

48 minutes

Words per Minute

157.57738

Word Count

7,657

Sentence Count

368

Misogynist Sentences

10

Hate Speech Sentences

14


Summary

Ellen Page has been stripped of her psychologist license by the College of Psychologists of Ontario, a board that monitors professional psychologists' relationships with their clients. She's also been accused of being a racist, sexist, and anti-Canadian in her tweets, which led to her losing her license to practice psychology in Canada. In this episode of the podcast, we talk about what happened to her, why it happened, and what she's going to do now that her license has been taken away from her. Plus, Ellen talks about her new book, and why she thinks it's a good thing she's not allowed to express herself politically. Wealthsimple is built for whatever you're building. Built for Jane, who wants to break into the housing market, built for Ted, who's obsessed with what's happening in the global markets, and built for Celine, who just wants to retire and explore the world's flea markets. We've got the financial tools to help make it happen. Visit Wealthsimple.co/Possibilities to set yourself up for the future you want to live in a world where you can be, work, and have a good time in a safe, secure, and fun place. We're built for possibilities. You can t live without possibility, and you'll never have to live without it. - Wealthsimple - Built for possibilities, built by Jane and Ted, built to help you live, not just for you, by Ted, by Celine and Ted. Today's episode features an interview with author, author, journalist, and writer, Ellen Page, who shares her thoughts on what it means to her life and what it's like to be a good human being a good person. Music: "The Good, the Bad, Bad, and the Good, Good, and Good, Bad and the Great, the Good Good, The Bad, the Beautiful, the Things She's Been Through It All by The Good, by Jeff Perla, and more! (featuring a live recording of her new album, "It's a Good Day" by Ed Sheeran. (and much more). and much more! Want more like that? Check it out on Soundproof and more? Subscribe to the podcast by clicking here and let us know what you're listening to this podcast on your favourite podcast and share it with a friend and tell us what you think about it on social media or your favorite podcasting platform?


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00:00:30.300 Hey, Dad.
00:00:31.900 Hey, Mick.
00:00:33.620 Fancy meeting you here.
00:00:35.780 Yeah, fancy seeing you here, too.
00:00:38.740 Well, this might not be the most fun conversation, but I thought before we delve into how awful this is,
00:00:45.820 I thought I could just read a brief background I wrote about what's been going on so people are caught up to speed.
00:00:51.260 Is that okay?
00:00:52.460 Yep.
00:00:54.240 Okay.
00:00:55.300 The gist of it is, it looks like your license is getting taken away.
00:00:58.620 But starting from the beginning.
00:01:00.380 The College of Psychologists of Ontario, a regulatory board that was formed to monitor psychologists' relationships with their clients mainly, has been after you for, is it three years or is it longer than that?
00:01:13.880 It depends on the waves, but for this issue, it's been three or four years, yeah.
00:01:20.380 So working professionals like doctors, lawyers, massage therapists even, are all overseen by regulatory boards.
00:01:27.760 What regulatory boards are supposed to do is give clients who've been basically abused by working professionals a place to go to, to complain to.
00:01:35.220 What happened to you is a bunch of people who weren't your clients, random people online from all over the world, complained about a number of your tweets, as well as comments you made on Joe Rogan.
00:01:45.640 The sorry, not beautiful tweet in reference to a extremely obese swimsuit model, a tweet criticizing the government of Canada, a tweet saying that physicians removing women's breasts for being trans was criminal.
00:01:59.720 And one, I thought, fairly entertaining tweet suggesting that this is the tweet that people online are saying you were inciting suicide, which honestly, I think you'd have to have the IQ of a beetle in order to think that.
00:02:13.700 But anyway, you responded to someone who thought the world's population was too high and suggested that he should include himself in the depopulation he was already suggesting.
00:02:23.680 The college basically took all those complaints and decided that you pose a moderate risk to the public.
00:02:31.340 And I quote, the tweets were undermining public trust in the profession of psychology and trust in the college's ability to regulate the profession in the public interest.
00:02:40.440 So completely ignoring the fact that one morbid obesity should not be encouraged as it kills people, removing your breasts and sterilizing yourself should not be encouraged.
00:02:51.560 And I'm not even sure why we'd have to explain that criticizing the government should be protected and sarcasm is a form of humor.
00:02:58.260 They decided you have to undergo re-education, which you fought back against and appealed and lost because, in my opinion, the court system in Canada is full of woke judges.
00:03:12.020 So there was no winning there.
00:03:13.320 And now you're basically in a position where you either undergo re-education, which won't work because you won't get turned woke or you lose your license.
00:03:24.340 You don't know.
00:03:24.820 You never know.
00:03:26.280 This time next year, man, it's pink hair and away we go on the radical leftist side.
00:03:31.600 Yeah.
00:03:32.040 Converted completely.
00:03:33.540 No, you don't think so.
00:03:35.000 I don't think so.
00:03:36.440 So that's the overview.
00:03:39.200 So I guess we could start with, like, how are you feeling about all this?
00:03:45.560 I think you were insulting to Beatles.
00:03:47.920 What have they ever done to you, Michaela?
00:03:55.160 Okay, anyways.
00:03:56.920 Yeah.
00:03:57.440 So are you okay?
00:04:00.960 It's tiring.
00:04:02.480 You know, like, I'm preparing for this tour.
00:04:05.480 I have a, I'm finishing two books.
00:04:10.640 They're very complicated.
00:04:11.920 They take pretty much all my attention.
00:04:13.960 And having to fight this war, well, it's tiring.
00:04:18.880 You know, I have to plot, strategize, write, watch my tongue, consider my next best move.
00:04:28.520 And I also have to face the dismal reality that, as I wrote in the National Post, in Canada's National Post this week, that in some real fundamental sense, Canada's Charter of Rights isn't worth the paper it's written on.
00:04:43.400 And likely, professionals in this country can say goodbye to their right to express themselves, politically or otherwise, politically or professionally.
00:04:58.060 I don't think that my tweets, some of my tweets were political in a sense, in that I was criticizing certain government figures.
00:05:04.640 I was a councilman, Trudeau's former chief of staff, and Justin, the WF puppet himself, and I suppose you could argue that those were political opinions, and fair enough, but I have the right to my political opinions.
00:05:20.180 The tweets that I really got criticized for, particularly the one regarding Ellen Page, or Elliot Page, or however he or she wants to be referred to, I also regarded that as a professional obligation,
00:05:39.760 because I think it's incumbent on psychologists with an ounce of integrity to point out the danger of having self-deluded, narcissistic, self-destructive celebrities parade their proclivity to self-sterilize and self-mutilate as a public good on their public forums.
00:06:04.500 So, I don't regret any of that, and I certainly, you know me, Michaela, I can feel guilty at the drop of a hat.
00:06:12.600 It's actually one of my outstanding features, and I've scoured my conscience with regards to these accusations, and the best I can do is to find them grimly amusing.
00:06:26.680 This is so ridiculous. I mean, the fact that the college accepted a complaint that was the entire transcript of my three-hour discussion with Joe Rogan pretty much says it all.
00:06:41.640 And by the way, on the climate front, just so that everyone is crystal clear about this,
00:06:46.320 I think the climate models that are used to justify the encroaching tyranny planned by the WF are 100% untrustworthy.
00:06:55.840 And I think that the notion that we should let people terrify us to death with notions of an impending climate apocalypse,
00:07:03.980 so that we have to be locked down in every possible manner, give up our automobiles, give up our private, give up our flights, private or otherwise,
00:07:12.880 give up our right to buy clothing, give up our right to eat, give up our right to keep grandma warm or cool in the summer, let's say.
00:07:21.580 It's like, no, sorry, no, wrong in every possible way.
00:07:28.420 And more and more people are waking up to that realization.
00:07:32.780 You know, some of these tweets are now two years old.
00:07:34.900 I think they've aged remarkably well, personally.
00:07:37.860 And so, I just, I don't see where the crime is here, man.
00:07:44.440 I think the crime would have been holding my tongue.
00:07:47.440 So, and you know, you asked me how I'm doing.
00:07:50.600 It's like, this didn't really come as a surprise.
00:07:54.060 So, I'd already prepared for it.
00:07:55.820 Um, and as you and I spoke about last night, and I've talked over with Tammy, too, and with Julian, my son, for, you know, to some degree,
00:08:06.300 we're going to see what good we can make arise from this.
00:08:10.900 And if this is my opportunity to further expose the machinations of the radical left, narcissistic, resentful, woke mob,
00:08:21.160 then bring it on, boys.
00:08:23.940 We saw what happened to Claudine Gay.
00:08:27.160 We saw what happened to the president of UPenn.
00:08:29.540 If the good people at the Ontario College of Psychologists think they're immune from such things,
00:08:35.300 they have another thing coming.
00:08:37.320 So, you know, and maybe I'm wrong.
00:08:40.240 I'm not wrong about the damn tweets.
00:08:42.480 You know, I might be wrong about how this is going to unfold.
00:08:45.180 But, even there, the worst thing they can do to me is take my license.
00:08:49.960 Now, they're definitely planning to do that.
00:08:52.060 Because the rule is, I have to be educated by people of their choice, at my expense,
00:08:56.860 for whatever length of time they deem suitable,
00:09:00.360 until, by their standards, I've learned whatever the hell lesson I'm supposed to learn.
00:09:05.320 And I can't even imagine what that lesson would be.
00:09:08.120 It's like, what?
00:09:08.920 Don't tweet?
00:09:10.100 Don't speak?
00:09:11.320 Don't think?
00:09:13.160 Don't tell my clients the truth?
00:09:15.940 So, I don't know how to learn that lesson.
00:09:17.900 I don't know how they're going to measure whether or not I've learned it.
00:09:20.700 I don't know who they're going to get to measure it.
00:09:22.900 I have no idea who they're going to get to teach me.
00:09:25.180 I guess we're going to find out.
00:09:26.720 I would like to find out.
00:09:27.960 I'm very curious about that person.
00:09:29.900 And so, I'm set up for failure.
00:09:34.480 And, you know, my detractors will say,
00:09:36.020 well, Dr. Peterson, you set yourself up for failure.
00:09:39.180 You know, whatever.
00:09:41.540 But...
00:09:42.260 Those are the beetles I was referring to.
00:09:45.100 Yeah.
00:09:45.740 Yeah, yeah.
00:09:46.380 Beetles.
00:09:46.740 I know.
00:09:47.400 I know.
00:09:48.080 And, well, I don't think I've set myself up for failure.
00:09:53.680 I wouldn't say the evidence so far suggests that I have.
00:09:57.960 And so...
00:09:59.200 You know, it's so much of it's preposterous.
00:10:02.300 One of the things I asked the college,
00:10:04.340 but they never answered.
00:10:05.160 I asked them 40 questions in a letter of this level of impossibility.
00:10:10.280 So, one of them was,
00:10:11.760 all right, so you got about a dozen complaints.
00:10:14.180 Maybe they got, like, 17 complaints
00:10:16.220 and decided to proceed with 13.
00:10:18.460 Something like that.
00:10:19.560 from people from all over the world
00:10:21.900 detailing out my crimes, as we've discussed.
00:10:28.060 Many of those complainants claimed falsely in writing
00:10:31.340 to be clients of mine, by the way,
00:10:33.820 which didn't invalidate their opinions, apparently.
00:10:36.640 None of them, just to be clear about this,
00:10:38.980 none of them were clients of mine
00:10:40.260 or knew clients of mine
00:10:41.580 or were anyone I commented about on Twitter
00:10:45.520 or knew anyone I commented about on Twitter.
00:10:48.260 So, we want to be clear about that.
00:10:50.640 And...
00:10:51.600 I can't see how this can play out in any other way
00:10:57.200 than I take the course.
00:10:59.520 It doesn't work
00:11:00.760 because it's set up not to work.
00:11:03.140 Then they take my license.
00:11:04.600 Okay, now, what's the consequence of me losing my license?
00:11:07.420 Well, it's annoying, you know,
00:11:09.540 because those are hard licenses to get.
00:11:12.540 And I worked very hard to earn and deserve that license
00:11:16.180 and to maintain it.
00:11:17.580 And also very hard at being a good therapist,
00:11:20.120 which I was.
00:11:21.040 There were no complaints taken about against me by anyone
00:11:24.040 until I became known in the public sphere, you know.
00:11:27.760 So, that's a good thing to consider.
00:11:30.080 And I'm not that happy about the prospect of
00:11:32.920 the woke Beatles that you described
00:11:35.540 having their way with my professional credentials.
00:11:39.140 It annoys me deeply.
00:11:42.380 Now, on the other hand,
00:11:43.600 I'm not dependent on that license anymore.
00:11:46.660 I have other tricks up my sleeve, so to speak, anyways.
00:11:49.800 And at some point, I'm going to determine that
00:11:53.000 being a member of their pathetic little
00:11:55.340 incestuous, ideologically addled,
00:11:58.840 resentment-ridden, bureaucratic,
00:12:02.820 pea-brained, micro-souled club
00:12:05.520 is not worth the effort.
00:12:08.180 And I suppose we're probably there already.
00:12:11.900 But I have something to do publicly,
00:12:15.080 you know, in my delusion.
00:12:17.000 And like I said, maybe I'm wrong
00:12:18.660 and I should just shut the hell up
00:12:19.920 and pack up and go home.
00:12:21.120 But my sense,
00:12:23.380 grandiose though it may be,
00:12:25.560 is that these bloody colleges,
00:12:27.980 regulatory boards,
00:12:28.740 they pose a major threat
00:12:30.460 to the free speech and free thought
00:12:32.820 of all Canadians,
00:12:33.900 not just professionals.
00:12:35.440 Canadians can think for themselves.
00:12:37.580 What sort of professional consultation
00:12:39.260 are you going to be able to obtain
00:12:41.020 when the people you're talking to
00:12:42.720 are terrified of telling you the truth?
00:12:44.720 When you bring them your 13-year-old daughter
00:12:47.160 who's in major distress,
00:12:49.440 who's so concerned about her body
00:12:50.740 that she's thinking about sterilizing herself
00:12:52.800 and having her breasts removed,
00:12:54.820 and your idiot goddamn psychologist
00:12:56.740 isn't going to be able to do anything
00:12:58.200 except lie to you that it's all right.
00:13:01.640 How's that going to go for you?
00:13:04.220 You think that through for like 15 seconds.
00:13:06.780 And if you don't think that'll happen
00:13:07.960 to someone in your family soon,
00:13:09.600 you either don't have a family
00:13:10.920 or you're deluded
00:13:11.980 because it's coming your way real soon.
00:13:15.240 So, you know, I feel that I have an obligation
00:13:17.240 to fight this out in the public sphere.
00:13:19.160 In many ways, it would be simpler for me
00:13:21.500 just to tell them to go directly to hell
00:13:23.160 and give up my license proudly
00:13:25.900 and not worry about this again.
00:13:32.280 But, I don't know.
00:13:35.140 I'm not there yet.
00:13:36.860 It might happen.
00:13:37.840 I'm not there yet.
00:13:39.020 We'll play out this farce to its end.
00:13:42.640 And I'll do that in the faith
00:13:44.440 that if I conduct myself
00:13:45.820 with a certain degree of honor and care,
00:13:47.980 that the results won't be precisely
00:13:52.840 what my would-be enemies intend.
00:13:55.100 Let's put it that way.
00:13:57.480 Yeah.
00:13:59.800 I mean, luckily, you're in a position
00:14:02.240 where this isn't going to crush you.
00:14:04.000 But if this happened to somebody
00:14:05.160 who didn't have multiple streams of income,
00:14:07.360 what would they do?
00:14:09.820 They'd just be re-educated and lie, I suppose.
00:14:12.400 Or quit.
00:14:14.700 Well, the problem with being re-
00:14:16.240 It's not that easy to be re-educated and lie.
00:14:19.620 I mean, first of all,
00:14:21.980 you know, it's pretty hard on your soul.
00:14:25.600 Second,
00:14:28.920 you can't lie persistently
00:14:32.380 without becoming corrupted.
00:14:35.320 You can't pretend
00:14:36.720 without tilting in the direction
00:14:39.000 of your pretense.
00:14:41.060 And so,
00:14:42.300 an honorable person in this situation
00:14:45.300 is basically,
00:14:46.100 they're basically screwed.
00:14:47.420 Like, there's nothing they can really do.
00:14:49.460 You know, because if they quit,
00:14:50.960 which is what they should do,
00:14:52.000 they should tell them to go to hell
00:14:53.180 publicly and repeatedly.
00:14:55.960 Amy Hamm, the nurse in British Columbia,
00:14:58.520 she's,
00:14:59.240 they've tortured her to death
00:15:00.400 and she was very afraid of them.
00:15:03.080 And she's come out swinging again.
00:15:04.620 So, you know,
00:15:05.480 she's got some spine, that girl.
00:15:08.280 Did she-
00:15:08.800 No?
00:15:09.180 Did she,
00:15:09.580 did she,
00:15:10.760 did she oppose
00:15:12.100 what was going on with COVID?
00:15:14.680 That,
00:15:14.940 that's her story?
00:15:15.740 Well,
00:15:16.300 she really got in trouble,
00:15:17.700 as I understand it,
00:15:18.580 for insisting that there was
00:15:19.640 a biological difference
00:15:20.660 between men and women.
00:15:22.360 Oh.
00:15:22.580 Right,
00:15:22.660 which is the most basic of facts.
00:15:25.420 Right?
00:15:25.820 Of all facts,
00:15:27.240 that is the most basic.
00:15:28.340 If you are willing to compromise
00:15:30.840 yourself on the issue
00:15:32.700 of the reality of biological sex,
00:15:35.180 there is no lie
00:15:36.800 you won't swallow.
00:15:38.540 And that's why we're being tempted
00:15:39.960 with that particular proposition,
00:15:41.460 because the evil system of ideas
00:15:45.420 that has the woke ideologues
00:15:47.860 in its clutches
00:15:48.740 has,
00:15:51.040 as part of its structure
00:15:53.080 of implicit knowledge,
00:15:54.400 the certainty
00:15:55.760 that if
00:15:56.860 the lie
00:15:58.040 of
00:15:58.980 gender fluidity,
00:16:01.740 well,
00:16:01.960 let's say biological sex fluidity,
00:16:04.100 can be
00:16:04.720 promulgated,
00:16:05.900 there's no limit
00:16:07.660 whatsoever.
00:16:09.780 So,
00:16:11.360 you know,
00:16:11.660 and people,
00:16:12.200 they want to delay
00:16:12.820 the inevitable.
00:16:13.680 If the woke mob comes knocking,
00:16:15.240 they'll kowtow
00:16:15.840 and apologize,
00:16:16.740 and it's certainly understandable,
00:16:17.940 because who the hell
00:16:18.780 wants to put their
00:16:19.660 family's financial security
00:16:21.640 at risk,
00:16:22.460 their professional license,
00:16:23.600 but,
00:16:24.600 you know,
00:16:24.960 at some point,
00:16:26.620 you can have
00:16:27.460 a certain amount of hell now,
00:16:29.920 or you can have
00:16:30.860 way more hell later.
00:16:32.400 And I've never been
00:16:33.360 someone to wait around
00:16:35.260 for the next wave of hell
00:16:36.800 when I can just
00:16:37.520 get it over with right now.
00:16:39.880 You know,
00:16:40.200 and I guess that's what accounts
00:16:41.500 for whatever degree
00:16:42.520 of combativeness I have.
00:16:44.020 It's,
00:16:44.240 we're going to have a fight.
00:16:46.140 We're going to have it right now.
00:16:47.700 And we're going to get
00:16:48.220 to the bottom of it.
00:16:49.600 So,
00:16:50.200 pleasant as though,
00:16:51.400 pleasant though that will be.
00:16:53.600 So,
00:16:54.520 I don't know,
00:16:55.200 the sardonic part of me,
00:16:58.680 like there's a blackly amusing
00:17:00.480 element to this.
00:17:01.700 It's so ridiculous
00:17:03.480 that it's almost incomprehensible.
00:17:07.240 And so,
00:17:07.880 I'm curious.
00:17:10.060 It's like,
00:17:10.460 okay,
00:17:11.760 with each move,
00:17:13.800 this gets,
00:17:15.040 either I get more deluded,
00:17:16.400 or this gets darker,
00:17:18.180 you know,
00:17:18.480 depending on how you look at it.
00:17:20.260 I presume it's,
00:17:21.280 it's that,
00:17:22.600 it gets darker,
00:17:23.460 like the rot within the Canadian,
00:17:27.280 the rot within Canada
00:17:28.500 gets exposed more deeply.
00:17:30.040 I mean,
00:17:30.220 we've seen something similar,
00:17:31.340 as I said,
00:17:31.960 take place
00:17:32.520 on the university front
00:17:34.400 in the United States.
00:17:35.440 And,
00:17:36.120 you know,
00:17:36.340 there are lots of people
00:17:36.960 jumping up and down
00:17:37.700 about that,
00:17:38.520 like right now,
00:17:39.280 like Bill Ackman
00:17:40.120 and Christopher Ruffo.
00:17:41.960 And Ruffo probably knows
00:17:43.100 more than anyone else
00:17:44.120 about how deep
00:17:45.900 that rot goes.
00:17:46.900 But,
00:17:47.540 you know,
00:17:48.000 would-be Democrats
00:17:48.820 like Ackman,
00:17:50.280 you know,
00:17:51.380 they're shocked by
00:17:52.440 Claudine Gay
00:17:54.040 and the president
00:17:55.200 of UPenn and MIT.
00:17:56.860 It's like,
00:17:57.380 if that shocked you,
00:17:59.400 you guys have a lot more,
00:18:01.660 you have a lot more devils
00:18:03.020 to encounter
00:18:03.700 in the next few months.
00:18:05.540 This is a big problem.
00:18:07.000 You know,
00:18:07.180 and Canadians,
00:18:08.260 I thought about this a lot.
00:18:10.260 For about 150 years,
00:18:11.880 Canadians could
00:18:12.640 rest assured
00:18:14.560 in the essential reliability
00:18:16.400 of their fundamental institutions.
00:18:18.620 And maybe Canada
00:18:19.540 foremost among countries
00:18:20.900 in the world.
00:18:21.900 You know,
00:18:22.120 I mean,
00:18:22.680 arguably the Scandinavian
00:18:24.020 countries were in the same league
00:18:25.260 and certain European countries
00:18:26.500 and the United States
00:18:28.100 on a good day.
00:18:29.060 But Canada
00:18:29.660 was pretty damn stable.
00:18:31.120 Kind of dull,
00:18:32.120 little hard on excellence,
00:18:34.060 but reliable,
00:18:36.700 orderly,
00:18:37.340 stable,
00:18:38.140 predictable,
00:18:39.640 peace,
00:18:40.220 order,
00:18:40.500 and good government
00:18:41.160 sort of place.
00:18:42.700 And,
00:18:43.780 like,
00:18:45.360 that was 1995,
00:18:46.720 boys and girls.
00:18:47.940 And wherever the hell
00:18:49.080 you are now,
00:18:50.240 it's not there.
00:18:51.480 And Canadians
00:18:52.600 not only don't know that,
00:18:54.020 they don't want to know that,
00:18:55.520 but also,
00:18:56.140 they don't even know
00:18:56.780 how to find out
00:18:57.600 to know that.
00:18:58.340 Because,
00:18:59.280 especially the older Canadians,
00:19:01.400 they're accustomed
00:19:03.460 to relying on
00:19:04.280 legacy news services
00:19:05.380 like CBC,
00:19:06.900 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation,
00:19:08.260 to provide them with,
00:19:09.260 you know,
00:19:09.540 at least quasi-valid information.
00:19:11.420 forget about that.
00:19:16.540 Like,
00:19:17.400 those days are gone.
00:19:18.500 That ended in 2015.
00:19:20.920 That's quite a while ago now.
00:19:23.220 So,
00:19:23.920 so,
00:19:25.280 you know,
00:19:25.840 let's let the comedy roll,
00:19:27.560 man.
00:19:28.300 And,
00:19:28.620 you know,
00:19:29.320 one of the things
00:19:29.900 the CPO people
00:19:30.840 don't understand,
00:19:32.800 probably don't want to understand,
00:19:34.220 is that
00:19:34.560 I had to hold my tongue
00:19:38.000 and bide my time
00:19:39.420 while this legal action
00:19:40.780 was proceeding.
00:19:42.700 And now,
00:19:43.680 it's like,
00:19:44.560 it's very dangerous
00:19:46.040 to put someone
00:19:46.660 in a position
00:19:47.160 where they don't have
00:19:47.820 anything to lose.
00:19:49.320 I don't have anything to lose.
00:19:51.200 The worst they can do,
00:19:52.520 and this is what they'll do,
00:19:53.540 is they'll take my license
00:19:54.400 and then
00:19:54.820 I'll be known
00:19:55.900 by those who wish
00:19:57.220 to foster enmity against me
00:19:59.040 as now disgraced
00:20:00.820 Canadian psychologist
00:20:02.120 Jordan Peterson.
00:20:04.020 But,
00:20:04.320 what that's going to do,
00:20:05.760 I believe,
00:20:06.440 is bring disgrace
00:20:08.040 to those who
00:20:09.140 levy that epithet.
00:20:10.920 It'll just undermine
00:20:11.740 the validity
00:20:12.240 of the designation itself.
00:20:14.060 It'll undermine
00:20:14.620 public trust
00:20:15.360 in the idea
00:20:16.560 of psychologist,
00:20:18.180 in the reliability
00:20:19.000 of that designation.
00:20:20.480 Now,
00:20:20.720 you know,
00:20:20.920 that's a pretty
00:20:21.360 preposterous claim.
00:20:23.180 But,
00:20:24.180 and maybe I'm wrong,
00:20:25.520 and if I'm wrong,
00:20:26.220 well,
00:20:26.400 I'm willing to take
00:20:27.100 the punches.
00:20:27.740 But,
00:20:27.860 but there's a reason
00:20:30.020 that people bought
00:20:30.800 11 million copies
00:20:32.100 of my book.
00:20:34.060 The reason they bought
00:20:35.100 11 million copies
00:20:36.100 of 12 Rules for Life
00:20:38.200 was that they found it
00:20:40.040 helpful,
00:20:41.800 like psychologically helpful,
00:20:43.320 which was its purpose.
00:20:45.160 There's a reason that
00:20:46.120 the video interviews
00:20:50.080 and lectures
00:20:50.760 that I produced on
00:20:51.880 YouTube
00:20:53.080 and released on YouTube
00:20:54.300 mostly for free,
00:20:56.320 not that I haven't
00:20:57.300 benefited financially
00:20:58.340 from all of this
00:20:59.120 because I certainly have
00:21:00.240 and I'm not the least
00:21:01.320 bit ashamed of that.
00:21:03.060 In fact,
00:21:03.440 I'm pretty happy about it
00:21:04.540 and grateful for it
00:21:06.600 and hope it will continue
00:21:08.020 and I'm striving
00:21:08.860 to make sure it does.
00:21:10.320 It's like,
00:21:10.860 there's a reason people
00:21:12.260 are watching those videos
00:21:13.420 and listening.
00:21:13.980 so we'll see
00:21:18.220 whose reputation
00:21:19.000 suffers.
00:21:20.840 Hopefully,
00:21:21.280 I won't do anything
00:21:21.980 too stupid
00:21:22.780 and angry
00:21:24.360 along the way
00:21:25.140 and I don't think
00:21:25.820 I will
00:21:26.160 because
00:21:26.540 I'm actually
00:21:28.700 not particularly angry.
00:21:30.000 It's like,
00:21:30.760 I digested all this
00:21:32.340 a long time ago.
00:21:33.620 I'm sad about it.
00:21:34.800 I'm sad for my country.
00:21:37.760 You know,
00:21:37.960 and we've talked too.
00:21:38.900 You moved.
00:21:39.700 I can move to Arizona
00:21:40.880 and have a heartbeat.
00:21:42.760 Yeah.
00:21:43.240 You know,
00:21:43.600 my son Julian,
00:21:44.660 he's an American.
00:21:45.620 He could leave.
00:21:46.660 Lots of Canadians
00:21:47.520 are moving.
00:21:48.220 Three times as many Canadians
00:21:49.440 moved to the US
00:21:50.220 as vice versa.
00:21:51.740 We're going to be
00:21:52.460 the worst performing
00:21:53.440 economy in the developed world
00:21:55.380 for the next 30 years
00:21:56.460 by the current projections.
00:21:59.040 Really?
00:21:59.840 We make less money now
00:22:01.400 in Canada
00:22:01.940 on average
00:22:02.540 than people in Mississippi
00:22:03.660 and sorry for everybody
00:22:05.020 in Mississippi
00:22:05.520 to use you
00:22:06.460 as that example
00:22:07.160 but hey,
00:22:07.800 you're all doing better
00:22:08.500 than Canadians
00:22:09.140 so you can be happy
00:22:10.800 about that.
00:22:11.880 It'd be much simpler
00:22:13.000 for me just to say,
00:22:14.240 oh,
00:22:15.180 you know,
00:22:16.740 pack up all my troubles
00:22:17.920 in the old kit bag
00:22:19.020 and hit the road.
00:22:19.820 You know,
00:22:20.020 it's not like I'm not used
00:22:21.100 to moving around
00:22:22.080 but I don't know.
00:22:25.800 It's kind of interesting.
00:22:27.380 So,
00:22:28.040 and I'm,
00:22:28.520 I also feel
00:22:29.900 a certain moral obligation.
00:22:32.540 Do you,
00:22:33.280 do you think that
00:22:34.280 you're going to
00:22:35.540 continue this battle legally?
00:22:38.620 Well,
00:22:39.140 we do have one avenue.
00:22:40.420 There is,
00:22:41.020 there is one
00:22:41.860 appeal route left.
00:22:43.920 We can appeal directly
00:22:45.020 to the Supreme Court.
00:22:47.720 It's a very low probability
00:22:49.420 maneuver
00:22:51.100 and,
00:22:51.800 you know,
00:22:52.580 another loss.
00:22:54.500 Who knows,
00:22:55.360 right?
00:22:55.540 Because assume
00:22:56.340 that gets rejected
00:22:57.300 which is the most
00:22:58.000 likely outcome.
00:22:59.300 Well,
00:22:59.480 then those who
00:23:00.200 are not very fond
00:23:01.920 of me will
00:23:02.580 say
00:23:03.960 to those who want
00:23:05.220 to believe,
00:23:05.720 well,
00:23:06.020 you know,
00:23:06.300 three different levels
00:23:07.180 of Canadian judiciary
00:23:08.280 decided that Dr.
00:23:09.920 Peterson was wrong.
00:23:11.360 Who the hell is he
00:23:12.260 to make claims
00:23:13.660 that
00:23:13.960 this is,
00:23:16.000 what,
00:23:17.400 an inappropriate
00:23:18.060 response?
00:23:18.880 and look,
00:23:19.740 I can understand
00:23:20.380 why people would
00:23:21.120 believe that.
00:23:21.720 I would want
00:23:22.220 to believe that.
00:23:23.840 You know?
00:23:24.100 Yeah,
00:23:24.240 it means the entire
00:23:25.200 court system
00:23:26.660 is compromised.
00:23:28.900 Well,
00:23:29.380 it implies,
00:23:30.280 it certainly implies
00:23:31.460 that you'll be happy
00:23:32.880 to know now though
00:23:33.580 that the federal court
00:23:34.520 today announced
00:23:35.460 that you have
00:23:36.220 the right
00:23:37.580 or even the obligation
00:23:38.540 to reveal your pronouns
00:23:39.840 when you address
00:23:40.980 the court
00:23:41.380 and that you also
00:23:42.140 can start your,
00:23:43.420 whatever it is
00:23:44.060 you're doing
00:23:44.460 with an indigenous
00:23:45.220 land acknowledgement.
00:23:46.300 so people can make
00:23:48.240 of that what they want.
00:23:49.240 Yeah,
00:23:49.320 they just announced
00:23:49.980 that on Twitter today.
00:23:51.760 Arizona sounds like,
00:23:53.420 sounds like the right move.
00:23:54.500 That's my opinion.
00:23:56.440 Yeah,
00:23:56.740 yeah,
00:23:56.960 well,
00:23:57.160 you have a personal
00:23:57.820 stake in the matter too
00:23:58.700 but I also appreciate that.
00:24:00.080 You know,
00:24:00.300 I'm pretty happy
00:24:01.140 that you'd be happy
00:24:01.960 if we moved down there
00:24:02.920 but,
00:24:03.220 you know,
00:24:03.380 I've got,
00:24:04.200 well,
00:24:04.400 Julian's here
00:24:05.080 and plans to stay.
00:24:06.320 He should move too.
00:24:08.280 Yeah,
00:24:08.660 well,
00:24:09.700 there's plenty of people
00:24:10.660 thinking in that direction
00:24:11.700 but for now,
00:24:13.160 I think we'll continue our,
00:24:14.360 I'll continue in the course
00:24:16.660 that I've set myself on
00:24:18.540 and Tammy's behind it
00:24:19.600 and,
00:24:20.020 and,
00:24:21.220 you know,
00:24:22.040 I'm willing to
00:24:25.820 play come what may.
00:24:28.560 You know,
00:24:28.980 I,
00:24:29.240 I already
00:24:29.820 have my ducks in order
00:24:31.700 with regards to my strategies.
00:24:33.120 I'm going to say what I think.
00:24:34.660 I don't really care what happens.
00:24:36.620 Like,
00:24:37.080 that's not exactly,
00:24:37.980 it's not like I don't care.
00:24:39.100 That's wrong.
00:24:39.740 Sorry,
00:24:40.080 that,
00:24:40.260 that's ill stated.
00:24:41.080 There isn't anything better
00:24:43.260 that could conceivably happen to me
00:24:45.280 than exactly what will happen to me
00:24:47.920 regardless of how it appears
00:24:49.660 if I am careful
00:24:51.640 and state the truth.
00:24:53.920 I firmly believe that.
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00:26:31.980 I believe it.
00:26:35.180 I think I know it.
00:26:38.800 So,
00:26:39.600 whatever success I've had
00:26:41.400 is because
00:26:41.960 I say what I think.
00:26:43.820 And,
00:26:44.220 obviously,
00:26:44.960 I've paid
00:26:45.400 a certain kind of price
00:26:46.600 for that.
00:26:47.360 I don't have
00:26:47.880 a research career anymore.
00:26:50.320 Although,
00:26:50.900 that's not exactly true either
00:26:52.180 because I have some
00:26:52.740 pretty damn good researchers
00:26:53.860 on my staff
00:26:54.700 and we're doing
00:26:55.180 some remarkable things
00:26:56.460 at a rate
00:26:57.180 that was like
00:26:57.660 a hundred times faster
00:26:58.900 than anything
00:26:59.680 I could do
00:27:00.160 in the university.
00:27:01.240 Like,
00:27:01.480 I don't think
00:27:02.000 in some sense
00:27:02.660 I haven't lost anything.
00:27:04.320 Like,
00:27:04.740 I had to change.
00:27:05.880 I'm not a
00:27:06.260 full-time practicing
00:27:07.960 professor anymore
00:27:08.800 although I'm still
00:27:09.500 a professor
00:27:10.020 emeritus
00:27:11.020 so I have that designation.
00:27:12.680 I don't have
00:27:13.300 a clinical practice
00:27:14.140 but I'm kind of
00:27:15.100 practicing on
00:27:15.900 a global stage.
00:27:17.900 That's not an over,
00:27:19.140 that's not an exaggeration.
00:27:20.860 I don't have a university
00:27:21.860 but I'm building one.
00:27:23.580 That's kind of interesting.
00:27:25.740 So,
00:27:26.380 there's nothing in it
00:27:27.460 that hasn't been gained
00:27:28.480 apart from
00:27:29.260 a certain amount
00:27:29.860 of stress
00:27:30.500 but,
00:27:31.320 you know,
00:27:32.980 what are you going
00:27:33.400 to have a life
00:27:33.900 without stress?
00:27:34.900 I don't think so
00:27:36.000 and if you're not
00:27:36.600 worrying about
00:27:37.500 something big
00:27:38.320 that's real
00:27:38.920 you're going to worry
00:27:39.440 about something
00:27:39.840 that's small
00:27:40.540 and delusional
00:27:42.160 so you can forget
00:27:43.820 the whole stress-free thing.
00:27:45.140 You wouldn't even want
00:27:45.760 that if you could have it.
00:27:47.480 You know,
00:27:47.680 people are way too
00:27:48.360 ornery and unreasonable
00:27:49.360 to want a stress-free existence.
00:27:51.880 You know,
00:27:52.320 you hear people say
00:27:53.200 I just want to be happy.
00:27:54.740 It's like,
00:27:55.080 oh just,
00:27:55.840 that's all you want
00:27:56.800 is to be like
00:27:57.860 walking around
00:27:58.980 in a cloud of delight
00:28:00.500 100% of the time
00:28:02.060 and then they say
00:28:03.180 just as if
00:28:04.040 that's the easiest thing
00:28:04.980 in the world
00:28:05.420 for anyone to imagine
00:28:06.500 and manage.
00:28:07.820 It's like,
00:28:08.780 no,
00:28:09.960 definitely not.
00:28:12.620 Do you think,
00:28:14.000 like,
00:28:14.440 is there,
00:28:14.980 so I've been talking
00:28:16.000 about this a bit
00:28:16.680 on my Instagram
00:28:17.260 and people have reached out
00:28:18.240 and said,
00:28:18.580 is there anything
00:28:18.980 I can do to help?
00:28:21.040 But,
00:28:23.780 what's the answer to that?
00:28:24.840 Yeah,
00:28:26.440 okay.
00:28:27.460 Sure.
00:28:29.340 Paper would be best
00:28:30.660 but if you have to do it
00:28:31.900 electronically,
00:28:32.680 do it electronically.
00:28:34.120 Sure.
00:28:35.280 You know,
00:28:35.900 that's helpful.
00:28:36.560 Maybe we'll,
00:28:36.740 we'll link that
00:28:38.200 then in the description
00:28:39.260 for anybody
00:28:40.440 who's interested.
00:28:42.040 I still think it's all,
00:28:43.980 like,
00:28:44.320 you're doomed.
00:28:45.260 Your license was gone,
00:28:46.900 like,
00:28:47.100 as soon as you became famous
00:28:48.340 in 2017.
00:28:49.420 Like,
00:28:49.820 it wasn't going to be there
00:28:50.820 which you said yourself,
00:28:52.240 I think,
00:28:53.200 in 2016 or 2017
00:28:54.560 that speaking out
00:28:56.600 like this is going to,
00:28:58.960 I mean,
00:28:59.460 you were a bit more
00:29:00.180 doomsday about it,
00:29:01.140 something about
00:29:01.720 lose you your career
00:29:03.280 but,
00:29:04.520 I feel like you've been
00:29:05.480 talking about this
00:29:06.140 for a while.
00:29:06.460 I lost my professorship
00:29:07.800 essentially.
00:29:09.080 It just became impossible.
00:29:10.260 People might be curious
00:29:11.040 about that.
00:29:12.100 You know,
00:29:12.460 I couldn't figure out
00:29:13.520 if I could go back
00:29:14.240 to the university
00:29:14.800 for quite a long time
00:29:15.880 and it certainly
00:29:17.440 would have been
00:29:17.860 uncomfortable to do so
00:29:19.280 given the woke direction
00:29:20.560 of all educational institutions
00:29:22.920 but I think
00:29:23.520 I could have gone back
00:29:24.680 and made peace
00:29:25.260 with my colleagues.
00:29:26.160 It's not like
00:29:26.560 I didn't fundamentally
00:29:27.480 get along with them,
00:29:28.820 you know,
00:29:29.520 but I realized
00:29:31.360 once I recovered
00:29:32.740 and could think clearly
00:29:34.060 that I couldn't take
00:29:35.880 graduate students anymore.
00:29:37.100 I couldn't train researchers
00:29:38.160 because one of the things
00:29:39.780 you're hoping
00:29:40.300 if you train researchers
00:29:41.400 is that they go off
00:29:42.280 to be professors
00:29:42.940 and I train plenty
00:29:43.900 of professors
00:29:44.500 which is a high level
00:29:45.960 of success
00:29:46.540 for an academic researcher
00:29:47.780 by the way.
00:29:48.340 It's one of the standards
00:29:49.520 by which attainment
00:29:50.720 in those fields
00:29:51.940 is judged.
00:29:53.100 There isn't a hope
00:29:54.360 in hell
00:29:54.980 that anyone
00:29:55.580 who ever worked for me
00:29:57.360 much less got a letter
00:29:59.160 of reference from me
00:30:00.340 let's say
00:30:01.000 because they were my student
00:30:02.180 or who even agreed
00:30:04.360 to be in my lab
00:30:05.460 would ever get
00:30:06.140 an academic position.
00:30:07.700 So how could I continue
00:30:09.380 as a professor?
00:30:10.220 And then with regards
00:30:10.940 to being a clinical psychologist,
00:30:13.040 well, first of all,
00:30:14.740 once things blew up
00:30:15.800 around me,
00:30:16.620 my life was so complicated
00:30:18.220 that I just didn't have
00:30:19.680 the capacity,
00:30:22.320 free capacity necessary
00:30:23.800 to concentrate
00:30:25.080 as diligently
00:30:26.120 on my client's welfare
00:30:28.180 as would it be necessary.
00:30:29.820 Because when you're
00:30:31.040 in a clinical session
00:30:32.160 with someone
00:30:32.640 for an hour,
00:30:34.400 nothing that's about you
00:30:36.640 is supposed to happen.
00:30:39.060 Right?
00:30:39.360 So if you're preoccupied,
00:30:41.120 well, that's not good.
00:30:42.680 And plus,
00:30:43.160 you'll make a mistake,
00:30:44.240 especially if people
00:30:45.080 are talking to you
00:30:45.700 about really important things.
00:30:46.860 And then also,
00:30:47.980 I have to have free time
00:30:49.340 outside of my practice
00:30:51.180 to take phone calls
00:30:52.320 and so forth
00:30:53.040 and to drop everything
00:30:54.160 at the drop of a hat
00:30:56.340 in case there's an emergency.
00:30:58.140 You know,
00:30:58.440 you remember
00:30:58.920 when you were growing up?
00:31:00.460 Oh, yeah.
00:31:01.000 How often did the phone ring
00:31:02.480 during the week
00:31:03.420 from a client?
00:31:05.700 In a client in rough shape.
00:31:07.840 I was going to bring that up
00:31:09.060 during this podcast.
00:31:10.300 How often?
00:31:10.600 I mean,
00:31:13.400 I feel like there were
00:31:14.220 a few clients
00:31:14.880 where it might have been
00:31:15.460 every day.
00:31:16.900 Like, it was really frequent.
00:31:18.620 Well, and I gave them
00:31:18.820 my phone number, too.
00:31:20.600 Yeah.
00:31:21.080 So, yeah,
00:31:21.960 you've got to be all in
00:31:22.860 if you're a psychotherapist.
00:31:24.640 And there's just no way
00:31:26.220 I could continue with that
00:31:27.300 not in good conscience,
00:31:28.520 you know.
00:31:28.720 And that was really painful
00:31:29.860 because I liked my clients
00:31:32.020 and they liked me.
00:31:33.080 And, you know,
00:31:33.740 some of them
00:31:34.380 I had a relationship with
00:31:36.140 that was as deep
00:31:37.460 as you'd typically have
00:31:38.580 with a family member,
00:31:40.540 certainly.
00:31:41.140 Like, you get to know
00:31:42.400 people in a clinical
00:31:43.300 environment
00:31:44.840 maybe better than
00:31:46.380 anyone else
00:31:47.200 has ever known them.
00:31:48.700 You know,
00:31:49.000 and if the thing goes well,
00:31:50.520 those are close relationships.
00:31:52.460 And so it was very painful
00:31:54.060 for me
00:31:54.900 and for my clients
00:31:56.040 to have that all evaporate.
00:31:59.060 But the writing
00:32:00.360 was on the wall,
00:32:01.400 you know,
00:32:01.640 and when reality
00:32:02.960 comes knocking,
00:32:04.080 you're a fool
00:32:04.700 if you turn away
00:32:06.200 regardless of what it is.
00:32:07.540 So,
00:32:10.220 and it's the same thing now.
00:32:11.960 It's like,
00:32:12.320 this looks like bad news
00:32:13.540 and it's certainly bad news
00:32:15.140 for other professionals.
00:32:17.700 And I think Canadian professionals
00:32:19.420 who aren't
00:32:20.700 woke themselves
00:32:23.160 and who don't have
00:32:25.320 their heads fully in the sand
00:32:26.900 and their nether regions
00:32:29.320 exposed for exploitation,
00:32:31.440 let's say,
00:32:32.840 they know this is bad news.
00:32:36.100 Well,
00:32:36.300 that's the image
00:32:36.840 that came to mind
00:32:38.080 the other day
00:32:38.580 when I was thinking
00:32:39.200 about Canada's situation.
00:32:40.580 Yeah,
00:32:40.960 I know,
00:32:41.400 I know.
00:32:42.020 Yeah,
00:32:42.340 that's part of what happens
00:32:43.420 when you let your shadow
00:32:44.360 talk to you,
00:32:45.100 you know.
00:32:50.120 Oh,
00:32:50.560 oh man,
00:32:52.820 yeah,
00:32:53.340 pretty rough,
00:32:54.160 man.
00:32:55.180 So,
00:32:55.580 so it's tiring,
00:32:58.120 you know,
00:32:58.380 I've been very tired
00:32:59.120 this week
00:32:59.660 and it's been difficult
00:33:01.180 to concentrate
00:33:01.920 on my book,
00:33:03.360 Wine,
00:33:03.760 Wine,
00:33:04.060 and that is a problem
00:33:05.660 because it's due
00:33:06.440 right away
00:33:07.180 and I suppose
00:33:08.540 to the degree
00:33:09.080 I am angry,
00:33:10.520 I'm angry
00:33:12.060 because I don't like
00:33:13.560 having my time
00:33:14.400 stolen
00:33:15.640 by dimwits
00:33:17.520 who don't have
00:33:18.380 anything better
00:33:18.940 to do with their lives
00:33:19.960 than promote
00:33:22.260 the dogma
00:33:23.120 of ignorant men
00:33:24.540 and moralize
00:33:26.060 about it.
00:33:27.140 I don't like that
00:33:28.300 to say the least
00:33:30.060 and part of the reason
00:33:31.440 I don't like that
00:33:32.140 is because I know
00:33:32.640 where it goes.
00:33:33.280 Where it goes
00:33:35.620 is not good
00:33:36.300 and where Canada
00:33:37.700 is going
00:33:38.100 is not good.
00:33:39.840 It might already be
00:33:41.320 that where Canada
00:33:42.020 is is not good.
00:33:43.400 The biggest fear
00:33:44.020 I have right now
00:33:44.740 for the country
00:33:45.380 is that
00:33:46.080 Trudeau will hang on
00:33:47.520 for another year
00:33:48.300 because
00:33:49.080 getting rid of that man
00:33:51.900 is like
00:33:52.280 trying to get a fly
00:33:53.560 out of sticky paper.
00:33:56.920 Yeah,
00:33:57.540 with all the mess
00:33:58.320 that would entail
00:33:59.200 and then
00:34:01.080 Pierre Polyev
00:34:01.920 will be elected
00:34:02.580 and then
00:34:04.780 we'll find out
00:34:06.500 just how bad
00:34:07.560 things are
00:34:08.340 and that'll be
00:34:09.440 dumped on his shoulders
00:34:10.680 and his government
00:34:12.500 will fail
00:34:13.200 because of the
00:34:14.000 cataclysm
00:34:14.660 that he's inherited.
00:34:16.380 The Conservatives
00:34:17.500 will have a one-term
00:34:18.680 shot at it
00:34:20.900 and then like
00:34:21.480 Mark Carney
00:34:22.180 will be the new
00:34:22.940 Prime Minister of Canada.
00:34:24.780 That's the most
00:34:25.360 likely outcome
00:34:27.200 and by that time
00:34:28.820 Canadians will make
00:34:30.060 40% of what
00:34:31.200 Americans make
00:34:31.960 instead of the 60%
00:34:33.160 they make now.
00:34:34.780 Yeah, yeah.
00:34:35.520 So, you know,
00:34:36.520 that's
00:34:36.900 that's rough
00:34:38.780 and likely.
00:34:41.720 So,
00:34:42.380 maybe not
00:34:43.160 but
00:34:44.060 you know
00:34:45.500 I have
00:34:48.560 I have
00:34:49.120 some of the abilities
00:34:50.060 of Cassandra.
00:34:51.800 Cassandra was a seer
00:34:52.960 who was fated
00:34:54.260 to be entirely
00:34:55.060 accurate in her predictions.
00:34:56.800 Her torture
00:34:57.260 was that no one
00:34:57.900 ever listened to her.
00:34:58.640 so I don't have
00:34:59.540 that problem
00:35:00.080 because people
00:35:00.620 do listen to me
00:35:01.420 but
00:35:01.660 I do have
00:35:02.980 some ability
00:35:04.140 to see down
00:35:04.920 the road
00:35:06.040 to where things
00:35:07.320 are going.
00:35:08.200 I mean,
00:35:08.400 I'm optimistic
00:35:09.080 fundamentally.
00:35:09.960 I certainly do
00:35:10.520 believe that
00:35:11.100 as a species
00:35:13.320 we're on the cusp
00:35:14.300 of
00:35:14.560 we are on the cusp
00:35:16.200 of a potential
00:35:16.980 prosperity
00:35:17.820 and realm
00:35:18.800 of possibility
00:35:19.500 that's unparalleled
00:35:20.960 in
00:35:21.140 it's unparalleled.
00:35:23.280 I like that better.
00:35:24.420 I tell you
00:35:25.920 we could sure
00:35:26.820 carry everything
00:35:28.900 to an unimaginable
00:35:30.680 hell in a handbasket
00:35:31.800 with equal ease
00:35:33.960 and you know
00:35:35.160 I'm hoping
00:35:35.680 that we're all
00:35:36.520 wise enough
00:35:37.000 to pick the
00:35:37.700 former route
00:35:38.560 and not to engage
00:35:40.340 too carelessly
00:35:42.540 in the delights
00:35:43.260 of the latter
00:35:43.840 and everyone
00:35:45.600 can see that
00:35:46.340 playing itself out.
00:35:48.540 I feel like
00:35:49.680 another outcome
00:35:51.600 could be
00:35:52.240 Trump winning
00:35:53.380 in America
00:35:54.000 and I feel like
00:35:55.060 Canada always
00:35:56.060 kind of trails
00:35:57.180 behind what
00:35:58.260 America does
00:35:58.980 a little bit
00:35:59.520 and so
00:36:01.080 potentially Trump
00:36:02.180 could turn around
00:36:03.540 America
00:36:04.460 and then Canada
00:36:05.300 could follow suit
00:36:06.200 after that
00:36:07.020 give or take
00:36:08.000 five years after
00:36:08.960 or something.
00:36:09.840 That would be
00:36:10.060 a more optimistic
00:36:11.760 outcome.
00:36:12.140 Well, you know
00:36:12.440 I mean
00:36:12.760 it's certainly
00:36:13.380 the case
00:36:13.920 that
00:36:14.300 the Jewish
00:36:16.140 community
00:36:16.680 in the United
00:36:17.820 States and Canada
00:36:18.620 are waking up
00:36:19.400 to the dangers
00:36:20.140 of the progressive
00:36:20.920 idiocy
00:36:21.920 that they so
00:36:22.800 foolishly
00:36:23.480 by majority
00:36:24.880 supported
00:36:25.460 so that's
00:36:26.880 a good thing
00:36:27.460 certainly
00:36:29.300 MIT, Harvard
00:36:30.500 and UPenn
00:36:31.140 revealed their
00:36:31.740 hand
00:36:32.100 so the degree
00:36:34.080 of rot
00:36:34.720 in the
00:36:35.240 educational
00:36:35.900 institutions
00:36:36.480 is becoming
00:36:37.240 to be somewhat
00:36:38.160 apparent
00:36:38.820 even to people
00:36:40.080 who are
00:36:41.620 inclined not
00:36:42.240 to believe it
00:36:42.940 which is like
00:36:43.500 everyone
00:36:43.900 because who
00:36:44.580 the hell
00:36:44.860 wants to
00:36:45.320 believe that
00:36:45.960 there are
00:36:48.480 certainly
00:36:48.860 signs that
00:36:49.920 the public
00:36:50.500 has had
00:36:50.900 enough of
00:36:51.380 the woke
00:36:51.740 nonsense
00:36:52.200 especially
00:36:53.240 on the
00:36:53.620 green front
00:36:54.300 I mean
00:36:54.920 the German
00:36:56.560 working class
00:36:57.740 is
00:36:58.060 let's put it
00:36:59.540 this way
00:37:00.000 not very
00:37:01.020 happy
00:37:01.440 we saw
00:37:02.820 what happened
00:37:03.300 in Argentina
00:37:04.700 did you see
00:37:05.820 the new president
00:37:06.920 went to the
00:37:07.500 WEF
00:37:08.220 yeah
00:37:09.160 did you see
00:37:09.800 his speech
00:37:10.240 yeah I did
00:37:11.140 did you see
00:37:11.620 the AI
00:37:12.200 translated version
00:37:14.260 in English
00:37:15.920 no
00:37:16.320 no
00:37:17.200 oh man
00:37:18.220 it's good
00:37:18.740 yeah
00:37:19.080 the AI is
00:37:19.800 really coming
00:37:20.220 along
00:37:20.520 we're gonna
00:37:20.880 use that
00:37:21.280 for Peterson
00:37:21.680 Academy
00:37:22.100 I think
00:37:22.540 it looks like
00:37:23.280 he's speaking
00:37:23.700 in English
00:37:24.100 and he even
00:37:24.560 has
00:37:24.820 it's in his
00:37:25.400 voice
00:37:25.660 and his
00:37:25.960 accent
00:37:26.360 it's really
00:37:26.780 good
00:37:26.960 I'll send
00:37:27.300 it to you
00:37:27.680 yeah
00:37:28.440 okay
00:37:28.740 okay
00:37:29.140 yeah
00:37:29.400 well he
00:37:29.800 I mean
00:37:30.160 for everyone
00:37:30.880 who's watching
00:37:31.540 and listening
00:37:31.980 I mean
00:37:32.300 he went
00:37:32.680 to the WEF
00:37:33.680 in debt
00:37:34.360 to Davos
00:37:35.000 and said
00:37:36.140 you guys
00:37:37.340 have got
00:37:37.660 the problem
00:37:38.160 wrong
00:37:38.540 you're the
00:37:40.360 problem
00:37:40.880 and
00:37:42.580 that's what
00:37:44.220 I think
00:37:44.700 it's like
00:37:45.120 top-down
00:37:45.680 centralizing
00:37:46.420 globalist
00:37:46.960 green
00:37:47.240 utopians
00:37:48.020 moralizing
00:37:49.480 about
00:37:49.860 the poor
00:37:50.800 expelling
00:37:51.860 carbon
00:37:52.300 while flying
00:37:52.900 around the
00:37:53.360 world
00:37:53.560 in their
00:37:53.880 jets
00:37:54.300 yep
00:37:54.840 they're the
00:37:55.540 problem
00:37:55.940 pretty
00:37:56.860 obviously
00:37:57.380 that's
00:37:58.840 you
00:37:59.040 it's
00:38:01.040 interesting
00:38:01.480 that they
00:38:01.840 invited him
00:38:02.560 I thought
00:38:03.880 that was
00:38:04.180 interesting
00:38:04.560 it is
00:38:04.940 interesting
00:38:05.480 yeah
00:38:07.000 yeah
00:38:07.440 weird
00:38:07.820 fair enough
00:38:08.320 and well
00:38:09.120 and also
00:38:10.020 and also
00:38:10.920 good
00:38:11.320 you know
00:38:11.660 I mean
00:38:12.020 that is
00:38:12.660 one of the
00:38:13.060 things that
00:38:13.540 you know
00:38:14.440 you have to
00:38:14.800 give the devil
00:38:15.320 his due
00:38:15.720 they did
00:38:16.120 have enough
00:38:16.620 gall
00:38:17.800 to invite
00:38:20.700 him
00:38:20.880 so
00:38:21.780 and he
00:38:22.440 had enough
00:38:22.800 courage to
00:38:23.340 speak
00:38:23.700 so
00:38:25.500 you know
00:38:27.000 that could
00:38:28.000 be worse
00:38:28.500 you know
00:38:29.580 and there
00:38:30.180 are other
00:38:30.460 things unfolding
00:38:31.180 around me
00:38:31.600 that are
00:38:31.860 very very
00:38:32.260 optimistic
00:38:32.800 we're launching
00:38:33.680 Peterson Academy
00:38:34.480 as you pointed
00:38:35.100 out
00:38:35.380 at the end
00:38:35.780 of February
00:38:36.220 and that's
00:38:37.440 fun
00:38:37.780 you know
00:38:38.600 it's a great
00:38:39.780 adventure
00:38:40.780 to see if we
00:38:41.880 can offer
00:38:43.340 high level
00:38:44.580 university
00:38:45.120 equivalent
00:38:45.580 education
00:38:46.260 for like
00:38:47.000 10% of the
00:38:48.260 price
00:38:48.620 to everyone
00:38:50.360 that's a cool
00:38:51.740 thing
00:38:52.040 the ARC
00:38:53.100 conference
00:38:53.800 you know
00:38:54.460 I started
00:38:54.840 getting involved
00:38:55.460 with this
00:38:55.860 organization
00:38:56.540 the Alliance
00:38:57.160 for Responsible
00:38:58.000 Citizenship
00:38:58.780 which is
00:38:59.200 trying to
00:39:00.020 promote
00:39:00.840 a vision
00:39:02.380 of decentralized
00:39:03.200 responsibility
00:39:04.140 as the
00:39:04.900 antithesis
00:39:05.460 of top
00:39:06.520 down
00:39:06.780 centralizing
00:39:07.560 globalist
00:39:08.140 green
00:39:08.520 utopia
00:39:09.720 slash hell
00:39:10.660 and we
00:39:11.460 had a lovely
00:39:11.980 time at the
00:39:12.560 conference
00:39:12.920 it was a
00:39:13.780 smashing hit
00:39:14.460 we got
00:39:14.840 15,000
00:39:16.240 people
00:39:16.720 at the
00:39:17.440 O2
00:39:17.760 afterwards
00:39:18.420 for a
00:39:18.800 public
00:39:19.040 event
00:39:19.420 that's
00:39:20.840 going
00:39:21.360 great guns
00:39:22.000 and it
00:39:22.260 was really
00:39:22.800 I really
00:39:23.760 enjoy working
00:39:24.380 with the
00:39:24.700 people that
00:39:25.080 I've been
00:39:25.340 working with
00:39:25.940 you know
00:39:27.100 so I have
00:39:28.060 a lot of
00:39:28.460 reasons to
00:39:28.840 be optimistic
00:39:29.440 in my own
00:39:30.020 life
00:39:30.320 Tammy's doing
00:39:31.040 well
00:39:31.380 you're doing
00:39:31.940 well
00:39:32.240 Julian's
00:39:32.860 thriving
00:39:33.260 I'm not
00:39:34.600 98%
00:39:36.260 dead
00:39:36.820 so you know
00:39:37.780 that's a good
00:39:38.340 thing
00:39:38.680 so the
00:39:40.880 college thing
00:39:41.520 is a bump
00:39:41.980 in the road
00:39:42.440 in some real
00:39:43.040 way and also
00:39:43.720 an opportunity
00:39:44.420 it's an
00:39:45.560 opportunity
00:39:46.040 it's an
00:39:47.020 annoying
00:39:47.400 opportunity
00:39:48.120 you know
00:39:49.340 well it is
00:39:50.260 an annoying
00:39:50.720 opportunity
00:39:51.300 but I'm doing
00:39:51.860 my best to
00:39:52.420 be grateful
00:39:52.860 for it
00:39:53.300 too
00:39:53.440 because
00:39:53.780 I think
00:39:54.880 I do
00:39:55.180 believe
00:39:55.520 and we've
00:39:56.040 had lots
00:39:56.420 of experience
00:39:56.880 like this
00:39:57.300 and we've
00:39:57.560 already talked
00:39:57.980 about this
00:39:58.460 is that
00:39:58.860 just because
00:40:01.320 the thing
00:40:01.760 that's happening
00:40:02.360 to you
00:40:02.720 at the
00:40:03.000 moment
00:40:03.360 presents a
00:40:04.860 problem
00:40:05.200 doesn't mean
00:40:05.800 it isn't
00:40:06.300 rife with
00:40:06.880 opportunity
00:40:07.420 and I do
00:40:08.200 think that's
00:40:08.740 a reflection
00:40:09.220 of the old
00:40:09.840 dragon gold
00:40:10.600 symbolism
00:40:11.180 you know
00:40:11.540 it's like
00:40:11.940 you have to
00:40:14.580 confront a
00:40:15.080 dragon
00:40:15.420 to get
00:40:17.300 the gold
00:40:17.760 but what
00:40:18.800 that also
00:40:19.240 implies
00:40:19.680 is that
00:40:20.200 well it
00:40:20.980 might look
00:40:21.640 like a
00:40:22.080 dragon
00:40:22.500 but maybe
00:40:23.660 it's a
00:40:23.960 treasure house
00:40:24.620 you know
00:40:25.440 and we're
00:40:25.720 we're sort
00:40:26.320 of taking
00:40:26.680 that attitude
00:40:27.240 with regards
00:40:27.860 to Peterson
00:40:28.340 Academy
00:40:28.860 and also
00:40:29.940 with essay
00:40:30.540 the app
00:40:31.660 that I'm
00:40:31.960 working on
00:40:32.340 with Julian
00:40:32.860 it's like
00:40:33.320 nobody teaches
00:40:34.700 people how
00:40:35.220 to write
00:40:35.700 okay well
00:40:37.900 if nobody's
00:40:38.460 doing it
00:40:39.020 and you see
00:40:40.920 that well
00:40:41.520 then you
00:40:41.800 could do
00:40:42.140 it
00:40:42.360 the universities
00:40:43.780 are disintegrating
00:40:44.820 okay well
00:40:45.840 hey
00:40:46.580 people still
00:40:47.660 need to be
00:40:48.140 educated
00:40:48.640 and that's
00:40:50.940 a better way
00:40:51.380 of looking
00:40:51.680 at the world
00:40:52.220 is just
00:40:52.580 because it
00:40:53.000 looks like
00:40:53.440 I don't
00:40:54.720 know if
00:40:55.020 there's any
00:40:55.360 such thing
00:40:55.820 as an
00:40:56.060 opportunity
00:40:56.520 that doesn't
00:40:57.220 present itself
00:40:57.900 as a problem
00:40:58.660 it's a great
00:41:00.880 way of thinking
00:41:01.320 about problems
00:41:02.140 it's not
00:41:04.200 naive
00:41:04.740 that doesn't
00:41:06.160 make it
00:41:06.440 easy
00:41:06.840 you know
00:41:08.000 if you're
00:41:08.280 really having
00:41:08.720 trouble with
00:41:09.260 your wife
00:41:09.820 and you
00:41:11.440 figure out
00:41:12.180 what the
00:41:13.240 trouble is
00:41:13.920 you could
00:41:15.200 radically improve
00:41:16.000 her life
00:41:16.580 and your
00:41:17.000 life
00:41:17.340 and maybe
00:41:17.700 the ability
00:41:18.180 of both
00:41:18.580 of you
00:41:18.780 to communicate
00:41:19.240 with everyone
00:41:19.760 else
00:41:20.160 that's a
00:41:20.980 hell of a
00:41:21.360 gift
00:41:21.680 you know
00:41:22.520 in the
00:41:22.800 guise of
00:41:23.160 that problem
00:41:23.800 so
00:41:25.480 so I'm
00:41:27.560 okay
00:41:27.880 tired
00:41:28.700 that's the
00:41:29.360 only problem
00:41:30.000 you know
00:41:30.760 because I was
00:41:31.340 already working
00:41:31.980 pretty much
00:41:32.660 at 100%
00:41:33.660 capacity
00:41:34.220 and I suppose
00:41:34.720 there's some
00:41:35.100 danger in that
00:41:35.720 but I'm
00:41:36.020 trying to
00:41:36.320 finish this
00:41:36.760 book
00:41:36.980 and it's
00:41:37.240 a really
00:41:37.640 hard book
00:41:38.320 and so
00:41:39.420 when something
00:41:39.900 like this
00:41:40.300 comes along
00:41:40.900 I'm burning
00:41:43.300 up energy
00:41:43.880 I really
00:41:44.280 don't have
00:41:45.040 and there's
00:41:46.620 a certain
00:41:46.940 danger in that
00:41:47.820 and I get
00:41:48.480 a little
00:41:48.680 more irritable
00:41:49.320 I think I
00:41:49.920 was mouthy
00:41:50.420 on Twitter
00:41:50.820 last night
00:41:51.360 again after
00:41:51.920 not being
00:41:52.480 so you
00:41:53.380 know for
00:41:53.680 a number
00:41:53.960 of months
00:41:54.460 and that
00:41:57.020 was a bit
00:41:57.660 of a slip
00:41:58.180 but and
00:42:00.300 that's a
00:42:00.660 danger you
00:42:01.260 know and
00:42:01.620 and it's
00:42:02.240 one of the
00:42:02.800 dangers of
00:42:04.540 this sort
00:42:04.920 of trial
00:42:05.520 by process
00:42:06.340 that I'm
00:42:07.320 in at the
00:42:07.720 moment is
00:42:08.240 that one
00:42:09.900 of the
00:42:10.140 typical
00:42:10.460 outcomes
00:42:10.860 for people
00:42:11.380 who are
00:42:11.960 pinned down
00:42:13.880 by
00:42:14.460 responsibility
00:42:17.480 less
00:42:18.200 bureaucrats
00:42:19.680 hiding behind
00:42:21.520 the luxury
00:42:22.040 of their
00:42:22.360 positions
00:42:22.840 is that
00:42:23.580 they get
00:42:24.960 pushed to
00:42:26.300 the point
00:42:26.620 where they
00:42:26.900 do something
00:42:27.400 stupid
00:42:27.960 then as soon
00:42:29.420 as they do
00:42:29.780 something stupid
00:42:30.520 you know of
00:42:31.140 course they're
00:42:31.540 screwed because
00:42:32.280 their tormentors
00:42:34.280 jump all over
00:42:35.140 them and say
00:42:35.520 well we
00:42:35.920 knew you
00:42:36.340 were like
00:42:36.680 that from
00:42:37.080 the beginning
00:42:37.640 and that's
00:42:38.600 what we
00:42:38.860 were warning
00:42:39.380 everyone for
00:42:40.180 that's the
00:42:40.880 social justice
00:42:41.900 bird's voice
00:42:42.580 by the way
00:42:43.380 in case you
00:42:43.760 were wondering
00:42:44.300 lovely
00:42:45.800 yeah
00:42:47.040 yeah
00:42:47.880 yeah
00:42:48.220 yeah
00:42:48.420 yeah
00:42:48.740 dictatorship
00:42:49.520 by screeching
00:42:50.620 harpy
00:42:51.120 that's where
00:42:52.320 we're at
00:42:52.700 now
00:42:53.080 right
00:42:53.900 we're gonna
00:42:54.220 find out
00:42:54.660 what the
00:42:54.960 feminine
00:42:55.260 proclivity
00:42:55.840 for totalitarianism
00:42:57.060 is real soon
00:42:58.200 we're just
00:42:59.080 doing this
00:42:59.580 for your
00:42:59.960 own good
00:43:00.620 that's no
00:43:02.680 good
00:43:02.960 okay
00:43:04.160 well
00:43:04.740 uh
00:43:05.900 I feel like
00:43:06.620 is there
00:43:07.400 anything else
00:43:07.860 we want
00:43:08.180 people to
00:43:08.560 know
00:43:08.700 that pretty
00:43:09.160 much
00:43:09.440 sums it
00:43:10.520 up
00:43:10.740 well I guess
00:43:11.380 we could
00:43:11.700 you know
00:43:11.900 we could
00:43:12.280 speak directly
00:43:13.040 to Canadians
00:43:13.640 for a moment
00:43:14.320 it's like
00:43:14.780 yeah
00:43:15.060 if you're
00:43:15.500 watching and
00:43:16.020 listening this
00:43:16.560 and you want
00:43:16.900 to do
00:43:17.120 something
00:43:17.420 about it
00:43:18.040 well write
00:43:20.380 the Ontario
00:43:21.100 College of
00:43:21.600 Psychologists
00:43:22.120 and let them
00:43:22.580 know what
00:43:22.840 you think
00:43:23.240 um
00:43:24.920 write your
00:43:26.340 member of
00:43:26.780 parliament
00:43:27.100 or your
00:43:27.760 federally
00:43:28.520 or your
00:43:28.960 member of
00:43:29.400 parliament
00:43:29.680 provincially
00:43:30.220 if you
00:43:30.520 live in
00:43:30.760 Ontario
00:43:31.160 ask them
00:43:32.540 what the
00:43:32.800 hell's
00:43:33.020 going on
00:43:33.580 you know
00:43:34.940 and what
00:43:35.180 they think
00:43:35.540 about the
00:43:35.920 fact that
00:43:36.400 the regulatory
00:43:37.980 boards in
00:43:38.700 Canada now
00:43:39.420 have final
00:43:40.600 say even
00:43:41.280 over the
00:43:42.680 charter rights
00:43:43.280 of Canadian
00:43:44.260 professionals
00:43:44.820 ask them
00:43:45.640 what they
00:43:46.420 think that
00:43:47.020 means for
00:43:47.540 the rights
00:43:48.020 of the
00:43:48.360 typical
00:43:48.640 person
00:43:49.160 look guys
00:43:50.320 who are
00:43:50.920 watching and
00:43:51.420 listening and
00:43:51.840 think about
00:43:52.340 it for a
00:43:52.660 minute
00:43:52.800 if
00:43:54.340 the right
00:43:55.960 to free
00:43:56.700 speech and
00:43:57.260 thought
00:43:57.640 can be
00:43:58.360 denied to
00:44:00.740 me by
00:44:02.900 my regulatory
00:44:03.820 board and
00:44:04.460 the courts
00:44:04.960 what bloody
00:44:06.200 chance do you
00:44:06.920 think you
00:44:07.340 have and
00:44:09.060 then if that
00:44:09.760 doesn't bother
00:44:10.260 you enough
00:44:10.640 then ask
00:44:11.120 yourself this
00:44:11.780 what chance
00:44:13.060 do your
00:44:13.300 children have
00:44:13.960 you know and
00:44:15.240 if you think
00:44:15.720 I'm a crank
00:44:16.320 and that I'm
00:44:17.160 exaggerating this
00:44:17.940 well fine
00:44:18.560 you're welcome
00:44:20.040 to that opinion
00:44:20.620 you might even
00:44:21.480 be right
00:44:22.020 I don't think
00:44:23.720 so but you
00:44:24.820 might be
00:44:25.260 and you can
00:44:26.500 take your
00:44:26.860 chances just
00:44:27.440 like everyone
00:44:27.920 else but if
00:44:28.860 you think I
00:44:29.340 am right
00:44:29.820 you better
00:44:30.520 think about
00:44:31.000 it because
00:44:31.440 the news
00:44:32.800 on the
00:44:33.160 Canadian
00:44:33.460 front is
00:44:34.000 not good
00:44:34.520 this country
00:44:35.720 is in
00:44:36.120 serious
00:44:36.660 trouble
00:44:37.040 way more
00:44:38.140 than people
00:44:38.600 think
00:44:38.940 and the
00:44:40.800 most likely
00:44:41.300 outcome is
00:44:41.840 exactly I
00:44:42.420 think the
00:44:42.700 one I
00:44:42.960 described
00:44:43.420 the liberals
00:44:44.420 will be
00:44:44.660 turfed out
00:44:45.140 temporarily
00:44:45.740 Pierre
00:44:46.420 Polyev
00:44:46.860 will take
00:44:47.180 the hit
00:44:47.580 and certainly
00:44:49.240 the establishment
00:44:49.880 will do
00:44:50.260 everything they
00:44:50.940 possibly can
00:44:51.700 to blame
00:44:52.380 everything
00:44:53.060 cataclysmic
00:44:53.920 that Trudeau
00:44:54.680 has been
00:44:55.080 producing
00:44:55.540 on Polyev
00:44:56.520 that's
00:44:58.300 obviously
00:44:58.820 the best
00:44:59.320 strategy
00:44:59.880 and then
00:45:00.600 we'll have
00:45:01.220 another
00:45:01.620 Trudeau
00:45:02.880 clone
00:45:03.560 some elitist
00:45:05.520 intellectual
00:45:06.220 even though
00:45:07.560 Trudeau
00:45:07.900 is by no
00:45:08.680 means an
00:45:09.040 intellectual
00:45:09.420 he has
00:45:09.900 all the
00:45:10.180 pretensions
00:45:10.740 of an
00:45:11.100 intellectual
00:45:11.620 as a
00:45:13.040 none of
00:45:13.380 the
00:45:13.540 intelligence
00:45:14.020 or wisdom
00:45:14.660 a certain
00:45:15.560 cunning
00:45:15.940 that's
00:45:16.280 for sure
00:45:16.680 and no
00:45:17.640 shortage
00:45:17.960 of self
00:45:18.420 confidence
00:45:19.000 we'll get
00:45:20.600 another one
00:45:21.020 like him
00:45:21.480 and then
00:45:22.400 then it'll
00:45:24.640 be time
00:45:25.000 to move
00:45:25.300 to Arizona
00:45:25.900 okay
00:45:30.720 well
00:45:31.420 anything
00:45:31.860 else
00:45:32.280 kiddo
00:45:32.760 any
00:45:34.500 cautions
00:45:34.940 on your
00:45:35.380 part
00:45:35.700 I don't
00:45:40.340 think so
00:45:40.740 I think
00:45:41.120 we're set
00:45:41.680 up
00:45:41.900 pretty
00:45:42.740 well
00:45:43.060 I mean
00:45:43.560 be careful
00:45:43.980 on Twitter
00:45:44.460 or X
00:45:45.780 yeah
00:45:46.040 I will
00:45:46.600 that would
00:45:46.980 be my
00:45:47.280 caution
00:45:47.600 be careful
00:45:48.080 on X
00:45:48.600 but
00:45:48.960 and sleep
00:45:50.960 and don't
00:45:51.420 get too
00:45:52.680 upset
00:45:52.980 or angry
00:45:53.560 because it's
00:45:54.460 just
00:45:54.700 well
00:45:55.140 it's kind
00:45:56.700 of out
00:45:56.920 of your
00:45:57.220 it's really
00:45:58.740 you're really
00:45:59.160 just along
00:45:59.660 for the ride
00:46:00.220 here
00:46:00.540 you know
00:46:02.700 that's kind
00:46:03.180 of true
00:46:03.460 of life
00:46:03.840 in general
00:46:04.360 you know
00:46:04.740 you're
00:46:05.100 you're kind
00:46:05.900 of swept
00:46:06.280 along
00:46:06.680 and
00:46:07.000 you got
00:46:07.780 to ask
00:46:08.080 yourself
00:46:08.400 what you
00:46:08.800 want to
00:46:09.040 be swept
00:46:09.460 along
00:46:09.800 by
00:46:10.160 and I
00:46:11.300 would say
00:46:11.760 you want
00:46:12.700 to be swept
00:46:13.180 along by
00:46:13.700 your relationship
00:46:14.360 with God
00:46:15.080 and you want
00:46:16.560 to be swept
00:46:16.980 along by
00:46:17.420 the truth
00:46:17.920 because if
00:46:18.840 you're swept
00:46:19.460 along by
00:46:20.200 falsehood
00:46:21.340 and the
00:46:21.740 prince of
00:46:22.120 lies
00:46:22.540 you're being
00:46:24.900 swept
00:46:25.200 towards something
00:46:25.980 so abysmal
00:46:27.140 that the worst
00:46:28.880 of your paranoid
00:46:29.640 imagination
00:46:30.500 would stretch
00:46:32.840 itself beyond
00:46:33.740 its capacity
00:46:34.460 to imagine
00:46:35.160 so
00:46:37.420 I'll say
00:46:40.000 what I think
00:46:40.660 like I have
00:46:41.300 for years
00:46:41.820 and I'll
00:46:42.860 pay my
00:46:43.240 price
00:46:43.580 whatever that
00:46:44.180 is
00:46:44.380 and I'll
00:46:44.740 reap my
00:46:45.140 rewards
00:46:45.540 whatever those
00:46:46.140 might be
00:46:46.620 and I have
00:46:47.740 confidence
00:46:48.200 in the
00:46:48.840 not only
00:46:51.040 in the
00:46:51.320 outcome
00:46:51.540 but even
00:46:51.920 in the
00:46:52.180 process
00:46:52.680 painful
00:46:53.560 though it
00:46:54.000 may be
00:46:54.600 you know
00:46:55.280 at certain
00:46:55.960 moments
00:46:56.420 I got lots
00:46:58.580 of support
00:46:59.080 you know
00:47:00.320 and Tam
00:47:00.680 and I
00:47:00.960 are on the
00:47:01.340 same page
00:47:01.900 that makes
00:47:02.300 a big
00:47:02.540 difference
00:47:02.920 and so
00:47:03.340 same with
00:47:04.060 you and
00:47:04.340 Julian
00:47:04.620 I've got
00:47:04.960 lots of
00:47:05.300 support
00:47:05.600 and we've
00:47:06.280 been through
00:47:06.740 we've been
00:47:07.600 through worse
00:47:08.040 than this
00:47:08.500 man
00:47:08.880 by a lot
00:47:09.880 so
00:47:10.840 and we get
00:47:12.140 to see what
00:47:12.460 happens
00:47:12.820 you know
00:47:13.200 it's not
00:47:14.740 boring
00:47:15.160 that's for
00:47:16.960 sure
00:47:17.200 it's not
00:47:17.940 boring
00:47:18.360 yeah
00:47:19.300 okay
00:47:19.620 well
00:47:20.000 I think
00:47:20.640 that wraps
00:47:21.120 up that
00:47:21.600 very nicely
00:47:22.640 thanks dad
00:47:23.640 good luck
00:47:24.360 with everything
00:47:25.060 okay
00:47:26.260 bye bye
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