The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - My Clinical License Is as Good as Gone

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00:00:30.300 Hey, Dad.

00:00:31.900 Hey, Mick.

00:00:33.620 Fancy meeting you here.

00:00:35.780 Yeah, fancy seeing you here, too.

00:00:38.740 Well, this might not be the most fun conversation, but I thought before we delve into how awful this is,

00:00:45.820 I thought I could just read a brief background I wrote about what's been going on so people are caught up to speed.

00:00:51.260 Is that okay?

00:00:52.460 Yep.

00:00:54.240 Okay.

00:00:55.300 The gist of it is, it looks like your license is getting taken away.

00:00:58.620 But starting from the beginning.

00:01:00.380 The College of Psychologists of Ontario, a regulatory board that was formed to monitor psychologists' relationships with their clients mainly, has been after you for, is it three years or is it longer than that?

00:01:13.880 It depends on the waves, but for this issue, it's been three or four years, yeah.

00:01:20.380 So working professionals like doctors, lawyers, massage therapists even, are all overseen by regulatory boards.

00:01:27.760 What regulatory boards are supposed to do is give clients who've been basically abused by working professionals a place to go to, to complain to.

00:01:35.220 What happened to you is a bunch of people who weren't your clients, random people online from all over the world, complained about a number of your tweets, as well as comments you made on Joe Rogan.

00:01:45.640 The sorry, not beautiful tweet in reference to a extremely obese swimsuit model, a tweet criticizing the government of Canada, a tweet saying that physicians removing women's breasts for being trans was criminal.

00:01:59.720 And one, I thought, fairly entertaining tweet suggesting that this is the tweet that people online are saying you were inciting suicide, which honestly, I think you'd have to have the IQ of a beetle in order to think that.

00:02:13.700 But anyway, you responded to someone who thought the world's population was too high and suggested that he should include himself in the depopulation he was already suggesting.

00:02:23.680 The college basically took all those complaints and decided that you pose a moderate risk to the public.

00:02:31.340 And I quote, the tweets were undermining public trust in the profession of psychology and trust in the college's ability to regulate the profession in the public interest.

00:02:40.440 So completely ignoring the fact that one morbid obesity should not be encouraged as it kills people, removing your breasts and sterilizing yourself should not be encouraged.

00:02:51.560 And I'm not even sure why we'd have to explain that criticizing the government should be protected and sarcasm is a form of humor.

00:02:58.260 They decided you have to undergo re-education, which you fought back against and appealed and lost because, in my opinion, the court system in Canada is full of woke judges.

00:03:12.020 So there was no winning there.

00:03:13.320 And now you're basically in a position where you either undergo re-education, which won't work because you won't get turned woke or you lose your license.

00:03:24.340 You don't know.

00:03:24.820 You never know.

00:03:26.280 This time next year, man, it's pink hair and away we go on the radical leftist side.

00:03:31.600 Yeah.

00:03:32.040 Converted completely.

00:03:33.540 No, you don't think so.

00:03:35.000 I don't think so.

00:03:36.440 So that's the overview.

00:03:39.200 So I guess we could start with, like, how are you feeling about all this?

00:03:45.560 I think you were insulting to Beatles.

00:03:47.920 What have they ever done to you, Michaela?

00:03:55.160 Okay, anyways.

00:03:56.920 Yeah.

00:03:57.440 So are you okay?

00:04:00.960 It's tiring.

00:04:02.480 You know, like, I'm preparing for this tour.

00:04:05.480 I have a, I'm finishing two books.

00:04:10.640 They're very complicated.

00:04:11.920 They take pretty much all my attention.

00:04:13.960 And having to fight this war, well, it's tiring.

00:04:18.880 You know, I have to plot, strategize, write, watch my tongue, consider my next best move.

00:04:28.520 And I also have to face the dismal reality that, as I wrote in the National Post, in Canada's National Post this week, that in some real fundamental sense, Canada's Charter of Rights isn't worth the paper it's written on.

00:04:43.400 And likely, professionals in this country can say goodbye to their right to express themselves, politically or otherwise, politically or professionally.

00:04:58.060 I don't think that my tweets, some of my tweets were political in a sense, in that I was criticizing certain government figures.

00:05:04.640 I was a councilman, Trudeau's former chief of staff, and Justin, the WF puppet himself, and I suppose you could argue that those were political opinions, and fair enough, but I have the right to my political opinions.

00:05:20.180 The tweets that I really got criticized for, particularly the one regarding Ellen Page, or Elliot Page, or however he or she wants to be referred to, I also regarded that as a professional obligation,

00:05:39.760 because I think it's incumbent on psychologists with an ounce of integrity to point out the danger of having self-deluded, narcissistic, self-destructive celebrities parade their proclivity to self-sterilize and self-mutilate as a public good on their public forums.

00:06:04.500 So, I don't regret any of that, and I certainly, you know me, Michaela, I can feel guilty at the drop of a hat.

00:06:12.600 It's actually one of my outstanding features, and I've scoured my conscience with regards to these accusations, and the best I can do is to find them grimly amusing. 0.83

00:06:26.680 This is so ridiculous. I mean, the fact that the college accepted a complaint that was the entire transcript of my three-hour discussion with Joe Rogan pretty much says it all.

00:06:41.640 And by the way, on the climate front, just so that everyone is crystal clear about this,

00:06:46.320 I think the climate models that are used to justify the encroaching tyranny planned by the WF are 100% untrustworthy.

00:06:55.840 And I think that the notion that we should let people terrify us to death with notions of an impending climate apocalypse,

00:07:03.980 so that we have to be locked down in every possible manner, give up our automobiles, give up our private, give up our flights, private or otherwise,

00:07:12.880 give up our right to buy clothing, give up our right to eat, give up our right to keep grandma warm or cool in the summer, let's say.

00:07:21.580 It's like, no, sorry, no, wrong in every possible way.

00:07:28.420 And more and more people are waking up to that realization.

00:07:32.780 You know, some of these tweets are now two years old.

00:07:34.900 I think they've aged remarkably well, personally.

00:07:37.860 And so, I just, I don't see where the crime is here, man.

00:07:44.440 I think the crime would have been holding my tongue.

00:07:47.440 So, and you know, you asked me how I'm doing.

00:07:50.600 It's like, this didn't really come as a surprise.

00:07:54.060 So, I'd already prepared for it.

00:07:55.820 Um, and as you and I spoke about last night, and I've talked over with Tammy, too, and with Julian, my son, for, you know, to some degree,

00:08:06.300 we're going to see what good we can make arise from this.

00:08:10.900 And if this is my opportunity to further expose the machinations of the radical left, narcissistic, resentful, woke mob,

00:08:21.160 then bring it on, boys.

00:08:23.940 We saw what happened to Claudine Gay.

00:08:27.160 We saw what happened to the president of UPenn.

00:08:29.540 If the good people at the Ontario College of Psychologists think they're immune from such things,

00:08:35.300 they have another thing coming.

00:08:37.320 So, you know, and maybe I'm wrong. 0.99

00:08:40.240 I'm not wrong about the damn tweets. 0.99

00:08:42.480 You know, I might be wrong about how this is going to unfold. 0.99

00:08:45.180 But, even there, the worst thing they can do to me is take my license.

00:08:49.960 Now, they're definitely planning to do that.

00:08:52.060 Because the rule is, I have to be educated by people of their choice, at my expense,

00:08:56.860 for whatever length of time they deem suitable,

00:09:00.360 until, by their standards, I've learned whatever the hell lesson I'm supposed to learn.

00:09:05.320 And I can't even imagine what that lesson would be.

00:09:08.120 It's like, what?

00:09:08.920 Don't tweet?

00:09:10.100 Don't speak?

00:09:11.320 Don't think?

00:09:13.160 Don't tell my clients the truth?

00:09:15.940 So, I don't know how to learn that lesson.

00:09:17.900 I don't know how they're going to measure whether or not I've learned it.

00:09:20.700 I don't know who they're going to get to measure it.

00:09:22.900 I have no idea who they're going to get to teach me.

00:09:25.180 I guess we're going to find out.

00:09:26.720 I would like to find out.

00:09:27.960 I'm very curious about that person.

00:09:29.900 And so, I'm set up for failure.

00:09:34.480 And, you know, my detractors will say,

00:09:36.020 well, Dr. Peterson, you set yourself up for failure.

00:09:39.180 You know, whatever.

00:09:41.540 But...

00:09:42.260 Those are the beetles I was referring to.

00:09:45.100 Yeah.

00:09:45.740 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:46.380 Beetles.

00:09:46.740 I know.

00:09:47.400 I know.

00:09:48.080 And, well, I don't think I've set myself up for failure.

00:09:53.680 I wouldn't say the evidence so far suggests that I have.

00:09:57.960 And so...

00:09:59.200 You know, it's so much of it's preposterous.

00:10:02.300 One of the things I asked the college,

00:10:04.340 but they never answered.

00:10:05.160 I asked them 40 questions in a letter of this level of impossibility.

00:10:10.280 So, one of them was,

00:10:11.760 all right, so you got about a dozen complaints.

00:10:14.180 Maybe they got, like, 17 complaints

00:10:16.220 and decided to proceed with 13.

00:10:18.460 Something like that.

00:10:19.560 from people from all over the world

00:10:21.900 detailing out my crimes, as we've discussed.

00:10:28.060 Many of those complainants claimed falsely in writing

00:10:31.340 to be clients of mine, by the way,

00:10:33.820 which didn't invalidate their opinions, apparently.

00:10:36.640 None of them, just to be clear about this,

00:10:38.980 none of them were clients of mine

00:10:40.260 or knew clients of mine

00:10:41.580 or were anyone I commented about on Twitter

00:10:45.520 or knew anyone I commented about on Twitter.

00:10:48.260 So, we want to be clear about that.

00:10:50.640 And...

00:10:51.600 I can't see how this can play out in any other way

00:10:57.200 than I take the course.

00:10:59.520 It doesn't work

00:11:00.760 because it's set up not to work.

00:11:03.140 Then they take my license.

00:11:04.600 Okay, now, what's the consequence of me losing my license?

00:11:07.420 Well, it's annoying, you know,

00:11:09.540 because those are hard licenses to get.

00:11:12.540 And I worked very hard to earn and deserve that license

00:11:16.180 and to maintain it.

00:11:17.580 And also very hard at being a good therapist,

00:11:20.120 which I was.

00:11:21.040 There were no complaints taken about against me by anyone

00:11:24.040 until I became known in the public sphere, you know.

00:11:27.760 So, that's a good thing to consider.

00:11:30.080 And I'm not that happy about the prospect of

00:11:32.920 the woke Beatles that you described

00:11:35.540 having their way with my professional credentials.

00:11:39.140 It annoys me deeply.

00:11:42.380 Now, on the other hand,

00:11:43.600 I'm not dependent on that license anymore.

00:11:46.660 I have other tricks up my sleeve, so to speak, anyways.

00:11:49.800 And at some point, I'm going to determine that 0.99

00:11:53.000 being a member of their pathetic little 1.00

00:11:55.340 incestuous, ideologically addled, 1.00

00:11:58.840 resentment-ridden, bureaucratic,

00:12:02.820 pea-brained, micro-souled club

00:12:05.520 is not worth the effort.

00:12:08.180 And I suppose we're probably there already.

00:12:11.900 But I have something to do publicly,

00:12:15.080 you know, in my delusion.

00:12:17.000 And like I said, maybe I'm wrong 0.90

00:12:18.660 and I should just shut the hell up 0.94

00:12:19.920 and pack up and go home. 0.96

00:12:21.120 But my sense,

00:12:23.380 grandiose though it may be,

00:12:25.560 is that these bloody colleges,

00:12:27.980 regulatory boards,

00:12:28.740 they pose a major threat

00:12:30.460 to the free speech and free thought

00:12:32.820 of all Canadians,

00:12:33.900 not just professionals.

00:12:35.440 Canadians can think for themselves.

00:12:37.580 What sort of professional consultation

00:12:39.260 are you going to be able to obtain

00:12:41.020 when the people you're talking to

00:12:42.720 are terrified of telling you the truth?

00:12:44.720 When you bring them your 13-year-old daughter

00:12:47.160 who's in major distress,

00:12:49.440 who's so concerned about her body 0.98

00:12:50.740 that she's thinking about sterilizing herself

00:12:52.800 and having her breasts removed, 1.00

00:12:54.820 and your idiot goddamn psychologist 1.00

00:12:56.740 isn't going to be able to do anything 1.00

00:12:58.200 except lie to you that it's all right.

00:13:01.640 How's that going to go for you?

00:13:04.220 You think that through for like 15 seconds.

00:13:06.780 And if you don't think that'll happen

00:13:07.960 to someone in your family soon,

00:13:09.600 you either don't have a family

00:13:10.920 or you're deluded

00:13:11.980 because it's coming your way real soon.

00:13:15.240 So, you know, I feel that I have an obligation

00:13:17.240 to fight this out in the public sphere.

00:13:19.160 In many ways, it would be simpler for me 1.00

00:13:21.500 just to tell them to go directly to hell 0.99

00:13:23.160 and give up my license proudly 0.99

00:13:25.900 and not worry about this again.

00:13:32.280 But, I don't know.

00:13:35.140 I'm not there yet.

00:13:36.860 It might happen.

00:13:37.840 I'm not there yet.

00:13:39.020 We'll play out this farce to its end.

00:13:42.640 And I'll do that in the faith

00:13:44.440 that if I conduct myself

00:13:45.820 with a certain degree of honor and care,

00:13:47.980 that the results won't be precisely

00:13:52.840 what my would-be enemies intend.

00:13:55.100 Let's put it that way.

00:13:57.480 Yeah.

00:13:59.800 I mean, luckily, you're in a position

00:14:02.240 where this isn't going to crush you.

00:14:04.000 But if this happened to somebody

00:14:05.160 who didn't have multiple streams of income,

00:14:07.360 what would they do?

00:14:09.820 They'd just be re-educated and lie, I suppose.

00:14:12.400 Or quit.

00:14:14.700 Well, the problem with being re-

00:14:16.240 It's not that easy to be re-educated and lie.

00:14:19.620 I mean, first of all,

00:14:21.980 you know, it's pretty hard on your soul.

00:14:25.600 Second,

00:14:28.920 you can't lie persistently

00:14:32.380 without becoming corrupted.

00:14:35.320 You can't pretend

00:14:36.720 without tilting in the direction

00:14:39.000 of your pretense.

00:14:41.060 And so,

00:14:42.300 an honorable person in this situation

00:14:45.300 is basically, 0.98

00:14:46.100 they're basically screwed. 0.95

00:14:47.420 Like, there's nothing they can really do. 0.88

00:14:49.460 You know, because if they quit,

00:14:50.960 which is what they should do, 0.99

00:14:52.000 they should tell them to go to hell 0.99

00:14:53.180 publicly and repeatedly. 0.99

00:14:55.960 Amy Hamm, the nurse in British Columbia,

00:14:58.520 she's,

00:14:59.240 they've tortured her to death 0.99

00:15:00.400 and she was very afraid of them.

00:15:03.080 And she's come out swinging again.

00:15:04.620 So, you know,

00:15:05.480 she's got some spine, that girl. 0.61

00:15:08.280 Did she-

00:15:08.800 No?

00:15:09.180 Did she,

00:15:09.580 did she,

00:15:10.760 did she oppose

00:15:12.100 what was going on with COVID?

00:15:14.680 That,

00:15:14.940 that's her story?

00:15:15.740 Well,

00:15:16.300 she really got in trouble,

00:15:17.700 as I understand it,

00:15:18.580 for insisting that there was

00:15:19.640 a biological difference

00:15:20.660 between men and women.

00:15:22.360 Oh.

00:15:22.580 Right,

00:15:22.660 which is the most basic of facts.

00:15:25.420 Right?

00:15:25.820 Of all facts,

00:15:27.240 that is the most basic.

00:15:28.340 If you are willing to compromise

00:15:30.840 yourself on the issue

00:15:32.700 of the reality of biological sex,

00:15:35.180 there is no lie

00:15:36.800 you won't swallow.

00:15:38.540 And that's why we're being tempted

00:15:39.960 with that particular proposition,

00:15:41.460 because the evil system of ideas

00:15:45.420 that has the woke ideologues

00:15:47.860 in its clutches

00:15:48.740 has,

00:15:51.040 as part of its structure

00:15:53.080 of implicit knowledge,

00:15:54.400 the certainty

00:15:55.760 that if

00:15:56.860 the lie

00:15:58.040 of

00:15:58.980 gender fluidity,

00:16:01.740 well,

00:16:01.960 let's say biological sex fluidity, 1.00

00:16:04.100 can be

00:16:04.720 promulgated,

00:16:05.900 there's no limit

00:16:07.660 whatsoever.

00:16:09.780 So,

00:16:11.360 you know,

00:16:11.660 and people,

00:16:12.200 they want to delay

00:16:12.820 the inevitable.

00:16:13.680 If the woke mob comes knocking,

00:16:15.240 they'll kowtow 0.89

00:16:15.840 and apologize,

00:16:16.740 and it's certainly understandable,

00:16:17.940 because who the hell

00:16:18.780 wants to put their

00:16:19.660 family's financial security

00:16:21.640 at risk,

00:16:22.460 their professional license,

00:16:23.600 but,

00:16:24.600 you know,

00:16:24.960 at some point,

00:16:26.620 you can have

00:16:27.460 a certain amount of hell now,

00:16:29.920 or you can have

00:16:30.860 way more hell later.

00:16:32.400 And I've never been

00:16:33.360 someone to wait around

00:16:35.260 for the next wave of hell

00:16:36.800 when I can just

00:16:37.520 get it over with right now.

00:16:39.880 You know,

00:16:40.200 and I guess that's what accounts

00:16:41.500 for whatever degree

00:16:42.520 of combativeness I have.

00:16:44.020 It's,

00:16:44.240 we're going to have a fight.

00:16:46.140 We're going to have it right now.

00:16:47.700 And we're going to get

00:16:48.220 to the bottom of it.

00:16:49.600 So,

00:16:50.200 pleasant as though,

00:16:51.400 pleasant though that will be.

00:16:53.600 So,

00:16:54.520 I don't know,

00:16:55.200 the sardonic part of me,

00:16:58.680 like there's a blackly amusing

00:17:00.480 element to this. 0.98

00:17:01.700 It's so ridiculous 0.97

00:17:03.480 that it's almost incomprehensible. 0.98

00:17:07.240 And so,

00:17:07.880 I'm curious.

00:17:10.060 It's like,

00:17:10.460 okay,

00:17:11.760 with each move,

00:17:13.800 this gets,

00:17:15.040 either I get more deluded,

00:17:16.400 or this gets darker,

00:17:18.180 you know,

00:17:18.480 depending on how you look at it.

00:17:20.260 I presume it's,

00:17:21.280 it's that,

00:17:22.600 it gets darker,

00:17:23.460 like the rot within the Canadian,

00:17:27.280 the rot within Canada

00:17:28.500 gets exposed more deeply.

00:17:30.040 I mean,

00:17:30.220 we've seen something similar,

00:17:31.340 as I said,

00:17:31.960 take place

00:17:32.520 on the university front

00:17:34.400 in the United States.

00:17:35.440 And,

00:17:36.120 you know,

00:17:36.340 there are lots of people

00:17:36.960 jumping up and down

00:17:37.700 about that,

00:17:38.520 like right now,

00:17:39.280 like Bill Ackman

00:17:40.120 and Christopher Ruffo.

00:17:41.960 And Ruffo probably knows

00:17:43.100 more than anyone else

00:17:44.120 about how deep

00:17:45.900 that rot goes.

00:17:46.900 But,

00:17:47.540 you know,

00:17:48.000 would-be Democrats

00:17:48.820 like Ackman,

00:17:50.280 you know,

00:17:51.380 they're shocked by

00:17:52.440 Claudine Gay

00:17:54.040 and the president

00:17:55.200 of UPenn and MIT.

00:17:56.860 It's like,

00:17:57.380 if that shocked you,

00:17:59.400 you guys have a lot more, 0.97

00:18:01.660 you have a lot more devils

00:18:03.020 to encounter

00:18:03.700 in the next few months.

00:18:05.540 This is a big problem.

00:18:07.000 You know,

00:18:07.180 and Canadians,

00:18:08.260 I thought about this a lot.

00:18:10.260 For about 150 years,

00:18:11.880 Canadians could

00:18:12.640 rest assured

00:18:14.560 in the essential reliability

00:18:16.400 of their fundamental institutions.

00:18:18.620 And maybe Canada

00:18:19.540 foremost among countries

00:18:20.900 in the world.

00:18:21.900 You know,

00:18:22.120 I mean,

00:18:22.680 arguably the Scandinavian

00:18:24.020 countries were in the same league

00:18:25.260 and certain European countries

00:18:26.500 and the United States

00:18:28.100 on a good day.

00:18:29.060 But Canada

00:18:29.660 was pretty damn stable.

00:18:31.120 Kind of dull,

00:18:32.120 little hard on excellence,

00:18:34.060 but reliable,

00:18:36.700 orderly,

00:18:37.340 stable,

00:18:38.140 predictable,

00:18:39.640 peace,

00:18:40.220 order,

00:18:40.500 and good government

00:18:41.160 sort of place.

00:18:42.700 And,

00:18:43.780 like,

00:18:45.360 that was 1995,

00:18:46.720 boys and girls.

00:18:47.940 And wherever the hell 0.85

00:18:49.080 you are now,

00:18:50.240 it's not there.

00:18:51.480 And Canadians 0.95

00:18:52.600 not only don't know that,

00:18:54.020 they don't want to know that,

00:18:55.520 but also,

00:18:56.140 they don't even know

00:18:56.780 how to find out

00:18:57.600 to know that.

00:18:58.340 Because,

00:18:59.280 especially the older Canadians,

00:19:01.400 they're accustomed

00:19:03.460 to relying on

00:19:04.280 legacy news services

00:19:05.380 like CBC,

00:19:06.900 Canadian Broadcasting Corporation,

00:19:08.260 to provide them with,

00:19:09.260 you know,

00:19:09.540 at least quasi-valid information.

00:19:11.420 forget about that.

00:19:16.540 Like,

00:19:17.400 those days are gone.

00:19:18.500 That ended in 2015.

00:19:20.920 That's quite a while ago now.

00:19:23.220 So,

00:19:23.920 so,

00:19:25.280 you know,

00:19:25.840 let's let the comedy roll,

00:19:27.560 man.

00:19:28.300 And,

00:19:28.620 you know,

00:19:29.320 one of the things

00:19:29.900 the CPO people

00:19:30.840 don't understand,

00:19:32.800 probably don't want to understand,

00:19:34.220 is that

00:19:34.560 I had to hold my tongue

00:19:38.000 and bide my time

00:19:39.420 while this legal action

00:19:40.780 was proceeding.

00:19:42.700 And now,

00:19:43.680 it's like,

00:19:44.560 it's very dangerous

00:19:46.040 to put someone

00:19:46.660 in a position

00:19:47.160 where they don't have

00:19:47.820 anything to lose.

00:19:49.320 I don't have anything to lose.

00:19:51.200 The worst they can do,

00:19:52.520 and this is what they'll do,

00:19:53.540 is they'll take my license

00:19:54.400 and then

00:19:54.820 I'll be known

00:19:55.900 by those who wish

00:19:57.220 to foster enmity against me

00:19:59.040 as now disgraced

00:20:00.820 Canadian psychologist

00:20:02.120 Jordan Peterson.

00:20:04.020 But,

00:20:04.320 what that's going to do,

00:20:05.760 I believe,

00:20:06.440 is bring disgrace

00:20:08.040 to those who

00:20:09.140 levy that epithet.

00:20:10.920 It'll just undermine

00:20:11.740 the validity

00:20:12.240 of the designation itself.

00:20:14.060 It'll undermine

00:20:14.620 public trust

00:20:15.360 in the idea

00:20:16.560 of psychologist,

00:20:18.180 in the reliability

00:20:19.000 of that designation.

00:20:20.480 Now,

00:20:20.720 you know,

00:20:20.920 that's a pretty

00:20:21.360 preposterous claim.

00:20:23.180 But,

00:20:24.180 and maybe I'm wrong,

00:20:25.520 and if I'm wrong,

00:20:26.220 well,

00:20:26.400 I'm willing to take

00:20:27.100 the punches.

00:20:27.740 But,

00:20:27.860 but there's a reason

00:20:30.020 that people bought

00:20:30.800 11 million copies

00:20:32.100 of my book.

00:20:34.060 The reason they bought

00:20:35.100 11 million copies

00:20:36.100 of 12 Rules for Life

00:20:38.200 was that they found it

00:20:40.040 helpful,

00:20:41.800 like psychologically helpful,

00:20:43.320 which was its purpose.

00:20:45.160 There's a reason that

00:20:46.120 the video interviews

00:20:50.080 and lectures

00:20:50.760 that I produced on

00:20:51.880 YouTube

00:20:53.080 and released on YouTube

00:20:54.300 mostly for free,

00:20:56.320 not that I haven't

00:20:57.300 benefited financially

00:20:58.340 from all of this

00:20:59.120 because I certainly have

00:21:00.240 and I'm not the least

00:21:01.320 bit ashamed of that.

00:21:03.060 In fact,

00:21:03.440 I'm pretty happy about it

00:21:04.540 and grateful for it

00:21:06.600 and hope it will continue

00:21:08.020 and I'm striving

00:21:08.860 to make sure it does.

00:21:10.320 It's like,

00:21:10.860 there's a reason people

00:21:12.260 are watching those videos

00:21:13.420 and listening.

00:21:13.980 so we'll see

00:21:18.220 whose reputation

00:21:19.000 suffers.

00:21:20.840 Hopefully,

00:21:21.280 I won't do anything 0.99

00:21:21.980 too stupid 1.00

00:21:22.780 and angry 1.00

00:21:24.360 along the way

00:21:25.140 and I don't think

00:21:25.820 I will

00:21:26.160 because

00:21:26.540 I'm actually

00:21:28.700 not particularly angry.

00:21:30.000 It's like,

00:21:30.760 I digested all this

00:21:32.340 a long time ago.

00:21:33.620 I'm sad about it.

00:21:34.800 I'm sad for my country.

00:21:37.760 You know,

00:21:37.960 and we've talked too.

00:21:38.900 You moved.

00:21:39.700 I can move to Arizona

00:21:40.880 and have a heartbeat.

00:21:42.760 Yeah.

00:21:43.240 You know,

00:21:43.600 my son Julian,

00:21:44.660 he's an American.

00:21:45.620 He could leave.

00:21:46.660 Lots of Canadians

00:21:47.520 are moving.

00:21:48.220 Three times as many Canadians 0.99

00:21:49.440 moved to the US

00:21:50.220 as vice versa.

00:21:51.740 We're going to be

00:21:52.460 the worst performing

00:21:53.440 economy in the developed world

00:21:55.380 for the next 30 years

00:21:56.460 by the current projections.

00:21:59.040 Really?

00:21:59.840 We make less money now

00:22:01.400 in Canada

00:22:01.940 on average

00:22:02.540 than people in Mississippi

00:22:03.660 and sorry for everybody

00:22:05.020 in Mississippi

00:22:05.520 to use you

00:22:06.460 as that example

00:22:07.160 but hey,

00:22:07.800 you're all doing better

00:22:08.500 than Canadians 0.90

00:22:09.140 so you can be happy

00:22:10.800 about that.

00:22:11.880 It'd be much simpler

00:22:13.000 for me just to say,

00:22:14.240 oh,

00:22:15.180 you know,

00:22:16.740 pack up all my troubles

00:22:17.920 in the old kit bag

00:22:19.020 and hit the road.

00:22:19.820 You know,

00:22:20.020 it's not like I'm not used

00:22:21.100 to moving around

00:22:22.080 but I don't know.

00:22:25.800 It's kind of interesting.

00:22:27.380 So,

00:22:28.040 and I'm,

00:22:28.520 I also feel

00:22:29.900 a certain moral obligation.

00:22:32.540 Do you,

00:22:33.280 do you think that

00:22:34.280 you're going to

00:22:35.540 continue this battle legally?

00:22:38.620 Well,

00:22:39.140 we do have one avenue.

00:22:40.420 There is,

00:22:41.020 there is one

00:22:41.860 appeal route left.

00:22:43.920 We can appeal directly

00:22:45.020 to the Supreme Court.

00:22:47.720 It's a very low probability

00:22:49.420 maneuver

00:22:51.100 and,

00:22:51.800 you know,

00:22:52.580 another loss.

00:22:54.500 Who knows,

00:22:55.360 right?

00:22:55.540 Because assume

00:22:56.340 that gets rejected

00:22:57.300 which is the most

00:22:58.000 likely outcome.

00:22:59.300 Well,

00:22:59.480 then those who

00:23:00.200 are not very fond

00:23:01.920 of me will

00:23:02.580 say

00:23:03.960 to those who want

00:23:05.220 to believe,

00:23:05.720 well,

00:23:06.020 you know,

00:23:06.300 three different levels

00:23:07.180 of Canadian judiciary

00:23:08.280 decided that Dr.

00:23:09.920 Peterson was wrong. 0.93

00:23:11.360 Who the hell is he

00:23:12.260 to make claims 0.75

00:23:13.660 that

00:23:13.960 this is,

00:23:16.000 what,

00:23:17.400 an inappropriate

00:23:18.060 response?

00:23:18.880 and look,

00:23:19.740 I can understand

00:23:20.380 why people would

00:23:21.120 believe that.

00:23:21.720 I would want

00:23:22.220 to believe that.

00:23:23.840 You know?

00:23:24.100 Yeah,

00:23:24.240 it means the entire

00:23:25.200 court system

00:23:26.660 is compromised.

00:23:28.900 Well,

00:23:29.380 it implies,

00:23:30.280 it certainly implies

00:23:31.460 that you'll be happy

00:23:32.880 to know now though

00:23:33.580 that the federal court

00:23:34.520 today announced

00:23:35.460 that you have

00:23:36.220 the right

00:23:37.580 or even the obligation

00:23:38.540 to reveal your pronouns

00:23:39.840 when you address

00:23:40.980 the court

00:23:41.380 and that you also

00:23:42.140 can start your,

00:23:43.420 whatever it is

00:23:44.060 you're doing

00:23:44.460 with an indigenous

00:23:45.220 land acknowledgement.

00:23:46.300 so people can make

00:23:48.240 of that what they want.

00:23:49.240 Yeah,

00:23:49.320 they just announced

00:23:49.980 that on Twitter today.

00:23:51.760 Arizona sounds like,

00:23:53.420 sounds like the right move.

00:23:54.500 That's my opinion.

00:23:56.440 Yeah,

00:23:56.740 yeah,

00:23:56.960 well,

00:23:57.160 you have a personal

00:23:57.820 stake in the matter too

00:23:58.700 but I also appreciate that.

00:24:00.080 You know,

00:24:00.300 I'm pretty happy

00:24:01.140 that you'd be happy

00:24:01.960 if we moved down there

00:24:02.920 but,

00:24:03.220 you know,

00:24:03.380 I've got,

00:24:04.200 well,

00:24:04.400 Julian's here

00:24:05.080 and plans to stay.

00:24:06.320 He should move too.

00:24:08.280 Yeah,

00:24:08.660 well,

00:24:09.700 there's plenty of people

00:24:10.660 thinking in that direction

00:24:11.700 but for now,

00:24:13.160 I think we'll continue our,

00:24:14.360 I'll continue in the course

00:24:16.660 that I've set myself on

00:24:18.540 and Tammy's behind it 0.98

00:24:19.600 and,

00:24:20.020 and,

00:24:21.220 you know,

00:24:22.040 I'm willing to

00:24:25.820 play come what may.

00:24:28.560 You know,

00:24:28.980 I,

00:24:29.240 I already

00:24:29.820 have my ducks in order

00:24:31.700 with regards to my strategies.

00:24:33.120 I'm going to say what I think.

00:24:34.660 I don't really care what happens.

00:24:36.620 Like,

00:24:37.080 that's not exactly,

00:24:37.980 it's not like I don't care.

00:24:39.100 That's wrong.

00:24:39.740 Sorry,

00:24:40.080 that,

00:24:40.260 that's ill stated.

00:24:41.080 There isn't anything better

00:24:43.260 that could conceivably happen to me

00:24:45.280 than exactly what will happen to me

00:24:47.920 regardless of how it appears

00:24:49.660 if I am careful

00:24:51.640 and state the truth.

00:24:53.920 I firmly believe that.

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00:26:31.980 I believe it.

00:26:35.180 I think I know it.

00:26:38.800 So,

00:26:39.600 whatever success I've had

00:26:41.400 is because

00:26:41.960 I say what I think.

00:26:43.820 And,

00:26:44.220 obviously,

00:26:44.960 I've paid

00:26:45.400 a certain kind of price

00:26:46.600 for that.

00:26:47.360 I don't have

00:26:47.880 a research career anymore.

00:26:50.320 Although,

00:26:50.900 that's not exactly true either

00:26:52.180 because I have some

00:26:52.740 pretty damn good researchers

00:26:53.860 on my staff

00:26:54.700 and we're doing

00:26:55.180 some remarkable things

00:26:56.460 at a rate

00:26:57.180 that was like

00:26:57.660 a hundred times faster

00:26:58.900 than anything

00:26:59.680 I could do

00:27:00.160 in the university.

00:27:01.240 Like,

00:27:01.480 I don't think

00:27:02.000 in some sense

00:27:02.660 I haven't lost anything.

00:27:04.320 Like,

00:27:04.740 I had to change.

00:27:05.880 I'm not a

00:27:06.260 full-time practicing

00:27:07.960 professor anymore

00:27:08.800 although I'm still

00:27:09.500 a professor

00:27:10.020 emeritus

00:27:11.020 so I have that designation.

00:27:12.680 I don't have

00:27:13.300 a clinical practice

00:27:14.140 but I'm kind of

00:27:15.100 practicing on

00:27:15.900 a global stage.

00:27:17.900 That's not an over,

00:27:19.140 that's not an exaggeration.

00:27:20.860 I don't have a university

00:27:21.860 but I'm building one.

00:27:23.580 That's kind of interesting.

00:27:25.740 So,

00:27:26.380 there's nothing in it

00:27:27.460 that hasn't been gained

00:27:28.480 apart from

00:27:29.260 a certain amount

00:27:29.860 of stress

00:27:30.500 but,

00:27:31.320 you know,

00:27:32.980 what are you going

00:27:33.400 to have a life

00:27:33.900 without stress?

00:27:34.900 I don't think so

00:27:36.000 and if you're not

00:27:36.600 worrying about

00:27:37.500 something big

00:27:38.320 that's real

00:27:38.920 you're going to worry

00:27:39.440 about something

00:27:39.840 that's small

00:27:40.540 and delusional

00:27:42.160 so you can forget

00:27:43.820 the whole stress-free thing.

00:27:45.140 You wouldn't even want

00:27:45.760 that if you could have it.

00:27:47.480 You know,

00:27:47.680 people are way too

00:27:48.360 ornery and unreasonable

00:27:49.360 to want a stress-free existence.

00:27:51.880 You know,

00:27:52.320 you hear people say

00:27:53.200 I just want to be happy.

00:27:54.740 It's like,

00:27:55.080 oh just,

00:27:55.840 that's all you want

00:27:56.800 is to be like

00:27:57.860 walking around

00:27:58.980 in a cloud of delight

00:28:00.500 100% of the time

00:28:02.060 and then they say

00:28:03.180 just as if

00:28:04.040 that's the easiest thing

00:28:04.980 in the world

00:28:05.420 for anyone to imagine

00:28:06.500 and manage.

00:28:07.820 It's like,

00:28:08.780 no,

00:28:09.960 definitely not.

00:28:12.620 Do you think,

00:28:14.000 like,

00:28:14.440 is there,

00:28:14.980 so I've been talking

00:28:16.000 about this a bit

00:28:16.680 on my Instagram

00:28:17.260 and people have reached out

00:28:18.240 and said,

00:28:18.580 is there anything

00:28:18.980 I can do to help?

00:28:21.040 But,

00:28:23.780 what's the answer to that?

00:28:24.840 Yeah,

00:28:26.440 okay.

00:28:27.460 Sure.

00:28:29.340 Paper would be best

00:28:30.660 but if you have to do it

00:28:31.900 electronically,

00:28:32.680 do it electronically.

00:28:34.120 Sure.

00:28:35.280 You know,

00:28:35.900 that's helpful.

00:28:36.560 Maybe we'll,

00:28:36.740 we'll link that

00:28:38.200 then in the description

00:28:39.260 for anybody

00:28:40.440 who's interested.

00:28:42.040 I still think it's all,

00:28:43.980 like,

00:28:44.320 you're doomed.

00:28:45.260 Your license was gone,

00:28:46.900 like,

00:28:47.100 as soon as you became famous

00:28:48.340 in 2017.

00:28:49.420 Like,

00:28:49.820 it wasn't going to be there

00:28:50.820 which you said yourself,

00:28:52.240 I think,

00:28:53.200 in 2016 or 2017

00:28:54.560 that speaking out

00:28:56.600 like this is going to,

00:28:58.960 I mean,

00:28:59.460 you were a bit more

00:29:00.180 doomsday about it,

00:29:01.140 something about

00:29:01.720 lose you your career

00:29:03.280 but,

00:29:04.520 I feel like you've been

00:29:05.480 talking about this

00:29:06.140 for a while.

00:29:06.460 I lost my professorship

00:29:07.800 essentially.

00:29:09.080 It just became impossible.

00:29:10.260 People might be curious

00:29:11.040 about that.

00:29:12.100 You know,

00:29:12.460 I couldn't figure out

00:29:13.520 if I could go back

00:29:14.240 to the university

00:29:14.800 for quite a long time

00:29:15.880 and it certainly

00:29:17.440 would have been

00:29:17.860 uncomfortable to do so

00:29:19.280 given the woke direction

00:29:20.560 of all educational institutions

00:29:22.920 but I think

00:29:23.520 I could have gone back

00:29:24.680 and made peace

00:29:25.260 with my colleagues.

00:29:26.160 It's not like

00:29:26.560 I didn't fundamentally

00:29:27.480 get along with them,

00:29:28.820 you know,

00:29:29.520 but I realized

00:29:31.360 once I recovered

00:29:32.740 and could think clearly

00:29:34.060 that I couldn't take

00:29:35.880 graduate students anymore.

00:29:37.100 I couldn't train researchers

00:29:38.160 because one of the things

00:29:39.780 you're hoping

00:29:40.300 if you train researchers

00:29:41.400 is that they go off

00:29:42.280 to be professors

00:29:42.940 and I train plenty

00:29:43.900 of professors

00:29:44.500 which is a high level

00:29:45.960 of success

00:29:46.540 for an academic researcher

00:29:47.780 by the way.

00:29:48.340 It's one of the standards

00:29:49.520 by which attainment

00:29:50.720 in those fields

00:29:51.940 is judged.

00:29:53.100 There isn't a hope

00:29:54.360 in hell

00:29:54.980 that anyone

00:29:55.580 who ever worked for me

00:29:57.360 much less got a letter

00:29:59.160 of reference from me

00:30:00.340 let's say

00:30:01.000 because they were my student

00:30:02.180 or who even agreed

00:30:04.360 to be in my lab

00:30:05.460 would ever get

00:30:06.140 an academic position.

00:30:07.700 So how could I continue

00:30:09.380 as a professor?

00:30:10.220 And then with regards

00:30:10.940 to being a clinical psychologist,

00:30:13.040 well, first of all,

00:30:14.740 once things blew up

00:30:15.800 around me,

00:30:16.620 my life was so complicated

00:30:18.220 that I just didn't have

00:30:19.680 the capacity,

00:30:22.320 free capacity necessary

00:30:23.800 to concentrate

00:30:25.080 as diligently

00:30:26.120 on my client's welfare

00:30:28.180 as would it be necessary.

00:30:29.820 Because when you're

00:30:31.040 in a clinical session

00:30:32.160 with someone

00:30:32.640 for an hour,

00:30:34.400 nothing that's about you

00:30:36.640 is supposed to happen.

00:30:39.060 Right?

00:30:39.360 So if you're preoccupied,

00:30:41.120 well, that's not good.

00:30:42.680 And plus,

00:30:43.160 you'll make a mistake,

00:30:44.240 especially if people

00:30:45.080 are talking to you

00:30:45.700 about really important things.

00:30:46.860 And then also,

00:30:47.980 I have to have free time

00:30:49.340 outside of my practice

00:30:51.180 to take phone calls

00:30:52.320 and so forth

00:30:53.040 and to drop everything

00:30:54.160 at the drop of a hat

00:30:56.340 in case there's an emergency.

00:30:58.140 You know,

00:30:58.440 you remember

00:30:58.920 when you were growing up?

00:31:00.460 Oh, yeah.

00:31:01.000 How often did the phone ring

00:31:02.480 during the week

00:31:03.420 from a client?

00:31:05.700 In a client in rough shape.

00:31:07.840 I was going to bring that up

00:31:09.060 during this podcast.

00:31:10.300 How often?

00:31:10.600 I mean,

00:31:13.400 I feel like there were

00:31:14.220 a few clients

00:31:14.880 where it might have been

00:31:15.460 every day.

00:31:16.900 Like, it was really frequent.

00:31:18.620 Well, and I gave them

00:31:18.820 my phone number, too.

00:31:20.600 Yeah.

00:31:21.080 So, yeah,

00:31:21.960 you've got to be all in

00:31:22.860 if you're a psychotherapist.

00:31:24.640 And there's just no way

00:31:26.220 I could continue with that

00:31:27.300 not in good conscience,

00:31:28.520 you know.

00:31:28.720 And that was really painful

00:31:29.860 because I liked my clients

00:31:32.020 and they liked me.

00:31:33.080 And, you know,

00:31:33.740 some of them

00:31:34.380 I had a relationship with

00:31:36.140 that was as deep

00:31:37.460 as you'd typically have

00:31:38.580 with a family member,

00:31:40.540 certainly.

00:31:41.140 Like, you get to know

00:31:42.400 people in a clinical

00:31:43.300 environment

00:31:44.840 maybe better than

00:31:46.380 anyone else

00:31:47.200 has ever known them.

00:31:48.700 You know,

00:31:49.000 and if the thing goes well,

00:31:50.520 those are close relationships.

00:31:52.460 And so it was very painful

00:31:54.060 for me

00:31:54.900 and for my clients

00:31:56.040 to have that all evaporate.

00:31:59.060 But the writing

00:32:00.360 was on the wall,

00:32:01.400 you know,

00:32:01.640 and when reality

00:32:02.960 comes knocking, 1.00

00:32:04.080 you're a fool 1.00

00:32:04.700 if you turn away 1.00

00:32:06.200 regardless of what it is.

00:32:07.540 So,

00:32:10.220 and it's the same thing now.

00:32:11.960 It's like,

00:32:12.320 this looks like bad news

00:32:13.540 and it's certainly bad news

00:32:15.140 for other professionals.

00:32:17.700 And I think Canadian professionals

00:32:19.420 who aren't

00:32:20.700 woke themselves

00:32:23.160 and who don't have

00:32:25.320 their heads fully in the sand

00:32:26.900 and their nether regions

00:32:29.320 exposed for exploitation,

00:32:31.440 let's say,

00:32:32.840 they know this is bad news.

00:32:36.100 Well,

00:32:36.300 that's the image

00:32:36.840 that came to mind

00:32:38.080 the other day

00:32:38.580 when I was thinking

00:32:39.200 about Canada's situation.

00:32:40.580 Yeah,

00:32:40.960 I know,

00:32:41.400 I know.

00:32:42.020 Yeah,

00:32:42.340 that's part of what happens

00:32:43.420 when you let your shadow

00:32:44.360 talk to you,

00:32:45.100 you know.

00:32:50.120 Oh,

00:32:50.560 oh man,

00:32:52.820 yeah,

00:32:53.340 pretty rough,

00:32:54.160 man.

00:32:55.180 So,

00:32:55.580 so it's tiring,

00:32:58.120 you know,

00:32:58.380 I've been very tired

00:32:59.120 this week

00:32:59.660 and it's been difficult

00:33:01.180 to concentrate

00:33:01.920 on my book,

00:33:03.360 Wine,

00:33:03.760 Wine,

00:33:04.060 and that is a problem

00:33:05.660 because it's due

00:33:06.440 right away

00:33:07.180 and I suppose

00:33:08.540 to the degree

00:33:09.080 I am angry,

00:33:10.520 I'm angry

00:33:12.060 because I don't like

00:33:13.560 having my time

00:33:14.400 stolen 0.99

00:33:15.640 by dimwits 1.00

00:33:17.520 who don't have 1.00

00:33:18.380 anything better

00:33:18.940 to do with their lives

00:33:19.960 than promote

00:33:22.260 the dogma 1.00

00:33:23.120 of ignorant men 1.00

00:33:24.540 and moralize 1.00

00:33:26.060 about it.

00:33:27.140 I don't like that

00:33:28.300 to say the least

00:33:30.060 and part of the reason

00:33:31.440 I don't like that

00:33:32.140 is because I know

00:33:32.640 where it goes.

00:33:33.280 Where it goes

00:33:35.620 is not good

00:33:36.300 and where Canada

00:33:37.700 is going

00:33:38.100 is not good.

00:33:39.840 It might already be

00:33:41.320 that where Canada

00:33:42.020 is is not good.

00:33:43.400 The biggest fear

00:33:44.020 I have right now

00:33:44.740 for the country

00:33:45.380 is that

00:33:46.080 Trudeau will hang on

00:33:47.520 for another year

00:33:48.300 because

00:33:49.080 getting rid of that man

00:33:51.900 is like

00:33:52.280 trying to get a fly

00:33:53.560 out of sticky paper.

00:33:56.920 Yeah,

00:33:57.540 with all the mess

00:33:58.320 that would entail

00:33:59.200 and then

00:34:01.080 Pierre Polyev

00:34:01.920 will be elected

00:34:02.580 and then

00:34:04.780 we'll find out

00:34:06.500 just how bad

00:34:07.560 things are

00:34:08.340 and that'll be

00:34:09.440 dumped on his shoulders

00:34:10.680 and his government

00:34:12.500 will fail

00:34:13.200 because of the

00:34:14.000 cataclysm

00:34:14.660 that he's inherited.

00:34:16.380 The Conservatives

00:34:17.500 will have a one-term

00:34:18.680 shot at it

00:34:20.900 and then like

00:34:21.480 Mark Carney

00:34:22.180 will be the new

00:34:22.940 Prime Minister of Canada.

00:34:24.780 That's the most

00:34:25.360 likely outcome

00:34:27.200 and by that time

00:34:28.820 Canadians will make 1.00

00:34:30.060 40% of what

00:34:31.200 Americans make 1.00

00:34:31.960 instead of the 60% 0.68

00:34:33.160 they make now.

00:34:34.780 Yeah, yeah.

00:34:35.520 So, you know,

00:34:36.520 that's

00:34:36.900 that's rough

00:34:38.780 and likely.

00:34:41.720 So,

00:34:42.380 maybe not

00:34:43.160 but

00:34:44.060 you know

00:34:45.500 I have

00:34:48.560 I have

00:34:49.120 some of the abilities

00:34:50.060 of Cassandra.

00:34:51.800 Cassandra was a seer 0.80

00:34:52.960 who was fated

00:34:54.260 to be entirely

00:34:55.060 accurate in her predictions.

00:34:56.800 Her torture 0.99

00:34:57.260 was that no one

00:34:57.900 ever listened to her.

00:34:58.640 so I don't have

00:34:59.540 that problem

00:35:00.080 because people

00:35:00.620 do listen to me

00:35:01.420 but

00:35:01.660 I do have

00:35:02.980 some ability

00:35:04.140 to see down

00:35:04.920 the road

00:35:06.040 to where things

00:35:07.320 are going.

00:35:08.200 I mean,

00:35:08.400 I'm optimistic

00:35:09.080 fundamentally.

00:35:09.960 I certainly do

00:35:10.520 believe that

00:35:11.100 as a species

00:35:13.320 we're on the cusp

00:35:14.300 of

00:35:14.560 we are on the cusp

00:35:16.200 of a potential

00:35:16.980 prosperity

00:35:17.820 and realm

00:35:18.800 of possibility

00:35:19.500 that's unparalleled

00:35:20.960 in

00:35:21.140 it's unparalleled.

00:35:23.280 I like that better.

00:35:24.420 I tell you

00:35:25.920 we could sure

00:35:26.820 carry everything

00:35:28.900 to an unimaginable

00:35:30.680 hell in a handbasket

00:35:31.800 with equal ease

00:35:33.960 and you know

00:35:35.160 I'm hoping

00:35:35.680 that we're all

00:35:36.520 wise enough

00:35:37.000 to pick the

00:35:37.700 former route

00:35:38.560 and not to engage

00:35:40.340 too carelessly

00:35:42.540 in the delights

00:35:43.260 of the latter

00:35:43.840 and everyone

00:35:45.600 can see that

00:35:46.340 playing itself out.

00:35:48.540 I feel like

00:35:49.680 another outcome

00:35:51.600 could be

00:35:52.240 Trump winning

00:35:53.380 in America

00:35:54.000 and I feel like

00:35:55.060 Canada always 0.96

00:35:56.060 kind of trails

00:35:57.180 behind what

00:35:58.260 America does

00:35:58.980 a little bit

00:35:59.520 and so

00:36:01.080 potentially Trump

00:36:02.180 could turn around

00:36:03.540 America

00:36:04.460 and then Canada

00:36:05.300 could follow suit

00:36:06.200 after that

00:36:07.020 give or take

00:36:08.000 five years after

00:36:08.960 or something.

00:36:09.840 That would be

00:36:10.060 a more optimistic

00:36:11.760 outcome.

00:36:12.140 Well, you know

00:36:12.440 I mean

00:36:12.760 it's certainly

00:36:13.380 the case

00:36:13.920 that

00:36:14.300 the Jewish

00:36:16.140 community

00:36:16.680 in the United

00:36:17.820 States and Canada

00:36:18.620 are waking up

00:36:19.400 to the dangers

00:36:20.140 of the progressive 1.00

00:36:20.920 idiocy 1.00

00:36:21.920 that they so 1.00

00:36:22.800 foolishly 0.98

00:36:23.480 by majority 0.99

00:36:24.880 supported

00:36:25.460 so that's

00:36:26.880 a good thing

00:36:27.460 certainly

00:36:29.300 MIT, Harvard

00:36:30.500 and UPenn

00:36:31.140 revealed their

00:36:31.740 hand

00:36:32.100 so the degree

00:36:34.080 of rot

00:36:34.720 in the

00:36:35.240 educational

00:36:35.900 institutions

00:36:36.480 is becoming

00:36:37.240 to be somewhat

00:36:38.160 apparent

00:36:38.820 even to people

00:36:40.080 who are

00:36:41.620 inclined not

00:36:42.240 to believe it

00:36:42.940 which is like

00:36:43.500 everyone

00:36:43.900 because who

00:36:44.580 the hell

00:36:44.860 wants to 0.90

00:36:45.320 believe that

00:36:45.960 there are

00:36:48.480 certainly

00:36:48.860 signs that

00:36:49.920 the public

00:36:50.500 has had

00:36:50.900 enough of

00:36:51.380 the woke

00:36:51.740 nonsense

00:36:52.200 especially

00:36:53.240 on the

00:36:53.620 green front

00:36:54.300 I mean

00:36:54.920 the German

00:36:56.560 working class

00:36:57.740 is

00:36:58.060 let's put it

00:36:59.540 this way

00:37:00.000 not very

00:37:01.020 happy

00:37:01.440 we saw

00:37:02.820 what happened

00:37:03.300 in Argentina

00:37:04.700 did you see

00:37:05.820 the new president

00:37:06.920 went to the

00:37:07.500 WEF

00:37:08.220 yeah

00:37:09.160 did you see

00:37:09.800 his speech

00:37:10.240 yeah I did

00:37:11.140 did you see

00:37:11.620 the AI

00:37:12.200 translated version

00:37:14.260 in English

00:37:15.920 no

00:37:16.320 no

00:37:17.200 oh man

00:37:18.220 it's good

00:37:18.740 yeah

00:37:19.080 the AI is

00:37:19.800 really coming

00:37:20.220 along

00:37:20.520 we're gonna

00:37:20.880 use that

00:37:21.280 for Peterson

00:37:21.680 Academy

00:37:22.100 I think

00:37:22.540 it looks like

00:37:23.280 he's speaking

00:37:23.700 in English

00:37:24.100 and he even

00:37:24.560 has

00:37:24.820 it's in his

00:37:25.400 voice

00:37:25.660 and his

00:37:25.960 accent

00:37:26.360 it's really

00:37:26.780 good

00:37:26.960 I'll send

00:37:27.300 it to you

00:37:27.680 yeah

00:37:28.440 okay

00:37:28.740 okay

00:37:29.140 yeah

00:37:29.400 well he

00:37:29.800 I mean

00:37:30.160 for everyone

00:37:30.880 who's watching

00:37:31.540 and listening

00:37:31.980 I mean

00:37:32.300 he went

00:37:32.680 to the WEF

00:37:33.680 in debt

00:37:34.360 to Davos

00:37:35.000 and said

00:37:36.140 you guys

00:37:37.340 have got

00:37:37.660 the problem

00:37:38.160 wrong

00:37:38.540 you're the

00:37:40.360 problem 0.91

00:37:40.880 and

00:37:42.580 that's what

00:37:44.220 I think

00:37:44.700 it's like

00:37:45.120 top-down

00:37:45.680 centralizing

00:37:46.420 globalist

00:37:46.960 green

00:37:47.240 utopians

00:37:48.020 moralizing

00:37:49.480 about

00:37:49.860 the poor

00:37:50.800 expelling

00:37:51.860 carbon

00:37:52.300 while flying

00:37:52.900 around the

00:37:53.360 world

00:37:53.560 in their

00:37:53.880 jets

00:37:54.300 yep

00:37:54.840 they're the

00:37:55.540 problem

00:37:55.940 pretty

00:37:56.860 obviously

00:37:57.380 that's

00:37:58.840 you

00:37:59.040 it's

00:38:01.040 interesting

00:38:01.480 that they

00:38:01.840 invited him

00:38:02.560 I thought

00:38:03.880 that was

00:38:04.180 interesting

00:38:04.560 it is

00:38:04.940 interesting

00:38:05.480 yeah

00:38:07.000 yeah

00:38:07.440 weird

00:38:07.820 fair enough

00:38:08.320 and well

00:38:09.120 and also

00:38:10.020 and also

00:38:10.920 good

00:38:11.320 you know

00:38:11.660 I mean

00:38:12.020 that is

00:38:12.660 one of the

00:38:13.060 things that

00:38:13.540 you know

00:38:14.440 you have to

00:38:14.800 give the devil 0.94

00:38:15.320 his due

00:38:15.720 they did

00:38:16.120 have enough

00:38:16.620 gall

00:38:17.800 to invite

00:38:20.700 him

00:38:20.880 so

00:38:21.780 and he

00:38:22.440 had enough

00:38:22.800 courage to

00:38:23.340 speak

00:38:23.700 so

00:38:25.500 you know

00:38:27.000 that could 0.68

00:38:28.000 be worse

00:38:28.500 you know

00:38:29.580 and there

00:38:30.180 are other

00:38:30.460 things unfolding

00:38:31.180 around me

00:38:31.600 that are

00:38:31.860 very very

00:38:32.260 optimistic

00:38:32.800 we're launching

00:38:33.680 Peterson Academy

00:38:34.480 as you pointed

00:38:35.100 out

00:38:35.380 at the end

00:38:35.780 of February

00:38:36.220 and that's

00:38:37.440 fun

00:38:37.780 you know

00:38:38.600 it's a great

00:38:39.780 adventure

00:38:40.780 to see if we

00:38:41.880 can offer

00:38:43.340 high level

00:38:44.580 university

00:38:45.120 equivalent

00:38:45.580 education

00:38:46.260 for like

00:38:47.000 10% of the

00:38:48.260 price

00:38:48.620 to everyone

00:38:50.360 that's a cool

00:38:51.740 thing

00:38:52.040 the ARC

00:38:53.100 conference

00:38:53.800 you know

00:38:54.460 I started

00:38:54.840 getting involved

00:38:55.460 with this

00:38:55.860 organization

00:38:56.540 the Alliance

00:38:57.160 for Responsible

00:38:58.000 Citizenship

00:38:58.780 which is

00:38:59.200 trying to

00:39:00.020 promote

00:39:00.840 a vision

00:39:02.380 of decentralized

00:39:03.200 responsibility

00:39:04.140 as the

00:39:04.900 antithesis

00:39:05.460 of top

00:39:06.520 down

00:39:06.780 centralizing

00:39:07.560 globalist

00:39:08.140 green

00:39:08.520 utopia

00:39:09.720 slash hell

00:39:10.660 and we

00:39:11.460 had a lovely

00:39:11.980 time at the

00:39:12.560 conference

00:39:12.920 it was a

00:39:13.780 smashing hit

00:39:14.460 we got

00:39:14.840 15,000

00:39:16.240 people

00:39:16.720 at the

00:39:17.440 O2

00:39:17.760 afterwards

00:39:18.420 for a

00:39:18.800 public

00:39:19.040 event

00:39:19.420 that's

00:39:20.840 going

00:39:21.360 great guns

00:39:22.000 and it

00:39:22.260 was really

00:39:22.800 I really

00:39:23.760 enjoy working

00:39:24.380 with the

00:39:24.700 people that

00:39:25.080 I've been

00:39:25.340 working with

00:39:25.940 you know

00:39:27.100 so I have

00:39:28.060 a lot of

00:39:28.460 reasons to

00:39:28.840 be optimistic

00:39:29.440 in my own

00:39:30.020 life

00:39:30.320 Tammy's doing 0.99

00:39:31.040 well

00:39:31.380 you're doing

00:39:31.940 well

00:39:32.240 Julian's

00:39:32.860 thriving

00:39:33.260 I'm not

00:39:34.600 98%

00:39:36.260 dead

00:39:36.820 so you know

00:39:37.780 that's a good

00:39:38.340 thing

00:39:38.680 so the

00:39:40.880 college thing

00:39:41.520 is a bump

00:39:41.980 in the road

00:39:42.440 in some real

00:39:43.040 way and also

00:39:43.720 an opportunity

00:39:44.420 it's an

00:39:45.560 opportunity

00:39:46.040 it's an

00:39:47.020 annoying

00:39:47.400 opportunity

00:39:48.120 you know

00:39:49.340 well it is

00:39:50.260 an annoying

00:39:50.720 opportunity

00:39:51.300 but I'm doing

00:39:51.860 my best to

00:39:52.420 be grateful

00:39:52.860 for it

00:39:53.300 too

00:39:53.440 because

00:39:53.780 I think

00:39:54.880 I do

00:39:55.180 believe

00:39:55.520 and we've

00:39:56.040 had lots

00:39:56.420 of experience

00:39:56.880 like this

00:39:57.300 and we've

00:39:57.560 already talked

00:39:57.980 about this

00:39:58.460 is that

00:39:58.860 just because

00:40:01.320 the thing

00:40:01.760 that's happening

00:40:02.360 to you

00:40:02.720 at the

00:40:03.000 moment

00:40:03.360 presents a

00:40:04.860 problem

00:40:05.200 doesn't mean

00:40:05.800 it isn't

00:40:06.300 rife with

00:40:06.880 opportunity

00:40:07.420 and I do

00:40:08.200 think that's

00:40:08.740 a reflection

00:40:09.220 of the old

00:40:09.840 dragon gold

00:40:10.600 symbolism

00:40:11.180 you know

00:40:11.540 it's like

00:40:11.940 you have to

00:40:14.580 confront a

00:40:15.080 dragon

00:40:15.420 to get

00:40:17.300 the gold

00:40:17.760 but what

00:40:18.800 that also

00:40:19.240 implies

00:40:19.680 is that

00:40:20.200 well it

00:40:20.980 might look

00:40:21.640 like a

00:40:22.080 dragon

00:40:22.500 but maybe

00:40:23.660 it's a

00:40:23.960 treasure house

00:40:24.620 you know

00:40:25.440 and we're

00:40:25.720 we're sort

00:40:26.320 of taking

00:40:26.680 that attitude

00:40:27.240 with regards

00:40:27.860 to Peterson

00:40:28.340 Academy

00:40:28.860 and also

00:40:29.940 with essay

00:40:30.540 the app

00:40:31.660 that I'm

00:40:31.960 working on

00:40:32.340 with Julian

00:40:32.860 it's like

00:40:33.320 nobody teaches

00:40:34.700 people how

00:40:35.220 to write

00:40:35.700 okay well

00:40:37.900 if nobody's

00:40:38.460 doing it

00:40:39.020 and you see

00:40:40.920 that well

00:40:41.520 then you

00:40:41.800 could do

00:40:42.140 it

00:40:42.360 the universities

00:40:43.780 are disintegrating

00:40:44.820 okay well

00:40:45.840 hey

00:40:46.580 people still

00:40:47.660 need to be

00:40:48.140 educated

00:40:48.640 and that's

00:40:50.940 a better way

00:40:51.380 of looking

00:40:51.680 at the world

00:40:52.220 is just

00:40:52.580 because it

00:40:53.000 looks like

00:40:53.440 I don't

00:40:54.720 know if

00:40:55.020 there's any

00:40:55.360 such thing

00:40:55.820 as an

00:40:56.060 opportunity

00:40:56.520 that doesn't

00:40:57.220 present itself

00:40:57.900 as a problem

00:40:58.660 it's a great

00:41:00.880 way of thinking

00:41:01.320 about problems

00:41:02.140 it's not

00:41:04.200 naive

00:41:04.740 that doesn't

00:41:06.160 make it

00:41:06.440 easy

00:41:06.840 you know

00:41:08.000 if you're

00:41:08.280 really having

00:41:08.720 trouble with

00:41:09.260 your wife

00:41:09.820 and you

00:41:11.440 figure out

00:41:12.180 what the

00:41:13.240 trouble is

00:41:13.920 you could

00:41:15.200 radically improve

00:41:16.000 her life

00:41:16.580 and your

00:41:17.000 life

00:41:17.340 and maybe

00:41:17.700 the ability

00:41:18.180 of both

00:41:18.580 of you

00:41:18.780 to communicate

00:41:19.240 with everyone

00:41:19.760 else

00:41:20.160 that's a

00:41:20.980 hell of a

00:41:21.360 gift

00:41:21.680 you know

00:41:22.520 in the

00:41:22.800 guise of

00:41:23.160 that problem

00:41:23.800 so

00:41:25.480 so I'm

00:41:27.560 okay

00:41:27.880 tired

00:41:28.700 that's the

00:41:29.360 only problem

00:41:30.000 you know

00:41:30.760 because I was

00:41:31.340 already working

00:41:31.980 pretty much

00:41:32.660 at 100%

00:41:33.660 capacity

00:41:34.220 and I suppose

00:41:34.720 there's some

00:41:35.100 danger in that

00:41:35.720 but I'm

00:41:36.020 trying to

00:41:36.320 finish this

00:41:36.760 book

00:41:36.980 and it's

00:41:37.240 a really

00:41:37.640 hard book

00:41:38.320 and so

00:41:39.420 when something

00:41:39.900 like this

00:41:40.300 comes along

00:41:40.900 I'm burning

00:41:43.300 up energy

00:41:43.880 I really

00:41:44.280 don't have

00:41:45.040 and there's

00:41:46.620 a certain

00:41:46.940 danger in that

00:41:47.820 and I get

00:41:48.480 a little

00:41:48.680 more irritable

00:41:49.320 I think I

00:41:49.920 was mouthy

00:41:50.420 on Twitter

00:41:50.820 last night

00:41:51.360 again after

00:41:51.920 not being

00:41:52.480 so you

00:41:53.380 know for

00:41:53.680 a number

00:41:53.960 of months

00:41:54.460 and that

00:41:57.020 was a bit

00:41:57.660 of a slip

00:41:58.180 but and

00:42:00.300 that's a

00:42:00.660 danger you

00:42:01.260 know and

00:42:01.620 and it's

00:42:02.240 one of the

00:42:02.800 dangers of

00:42:04.540 this sort

00:42:04.920 of trial

00:42:05.520 by process

00:42:06.340 that I'm

00:42:07.320 in at the

00:42:07.720 moment is

00:42:08.240 that one

00:42:09.900 of the

00:42:10.140 typical

00:42:10.460 outcomes

00:42:10.860 for people

00:42:11.380 who are

00:42:11.960 pinned down

00:42:13.880 by

00:42:14.460 responsibility

00:42:17.480 less

00:42:18.200 bureaucrats

00:42:19.680 hiding behind

00:42:21.520 the luxury

00:42:22.040 of their

00:42:22.360 positions

00:42:22.840 is that

00:42:23.580 they get

00:42:24.960 pushed to

00:42:26.300 the point

00:42:26.620 where they

00:42:26.900 do something 1.00

00:42:27.400 stupid 1.00

00:42:27.960 then as soon 1.00

00:42:29.420 as they do 1.00

00:42:29.780 something stupid 1.00

00:42:30.520 you know of 1.00

00:42:31.140 course they're 1.00

00:42:31.540 screwed because 1.00

00:42:32.280 their tormentors 0.90

00:42:34.280 jump all over

00:42:35.140 them and say

00:42:35.520 well we

00:42:35.920 knew you

00:42:36.340 were like

00:42:36.680 that from

00:42:37.080 the beginning

00:42:37.640 and that's

00:42:38.600 what we

00:42:38.860 were warning

00:42:39.380 everyone for

00:42:40.180 that's the

00:42:40.880 social justice

00:42:41.900 bird's voice

00:42:42.580 by the way

00:42:43.380 in case you

00:42:43.760 were wondering

00:42:44.300 lovely

00:42:45.800 yeah

00:42:47.040 yeah

00:42:47.880 yeah

00:42:48.220 yeah

00:42:48.420 yeah

00:42:48.740 dictatorship

00:42:49.520 by screeching

00:42:50.620 harpy

00:42:51.120 that's where

00:42:52.320 we're at

00:42:52.700 now

00:42:53.080 right

00:42:53.900 we're gonna

00:42:54.220 find out

00:42:54.660 what the

00:42:54.960 feminine

00:42:55.260 proclivity

00:42:55.840 for totalitarianism

00:42:57.060 is real soon

00:42:58.200 we're just

00:42:59.080 doing this

00:42:59.580 for your

00:42:59.960 own good

00:43:00.620 that's no

00:43:02.680 good

00:43:02.960 okay

00:43:04.160 well

00:43:04.740 uh

00:43:05.900 I feel like

00:43:06.620 is there

00:43:07.400 anything else

00:43:07.860 we want

00:43:08.180 people to

00:43:08.560 know

00:43:08.700 that pretty

00:43:09.160 much

00:43:09.440 sums it

00:43:10.520 up

00:43:10.740 well I guess

00:43:11.380 we could

00:43:11.700 you know

00:43:11.900 we could

00:43:12.280 speak directly

00:43:13.040 to Canadians

00:43:13.640 for a moment

00:43:14.320 it's like

00:43:14.780 yeah

00:43:15.060 if you're

00:43:15.500 watching and

00:43:16.020 listening this

00:43:16.560 and you want

00:43:16.900 to do

00:43:17.120 something

00:43:17.420 about it

00:43:18.040 well write

00:43:20.380 the Ontario

00:43:21.100 College of

00:43:21.600 Psychologists

00:43:22.120 and let them

00:43:22.580 know what

00:43:22.840 you think

00:43:23.240 um

00:43:24.920 write your

00:43:26.340 member of

00:43:26.780 parliament

00:43:27.100 or your

00:43:27.760 federally

00:43:28.520 or your

00:43:28.960 member of

00:43:29.400 parliament

00:43:29.680 provincially

00:43:30.220 if you

00:43:30.520 live in

00:43:30.760 Ontario

00:43:31.160 ask them

00:43:32.540 what the 0.81

00:43:32.800 hell's

00:43:33.020 going on

00:43:33.580 you know

00:43:34.940 and what

00:43:35.180 they think

00:43:35.540 about the

00:43:35.920 fact that

00:43:36.400 the regulatory

00:43:37.980 boards in

00:43:38.700 Canada now

00:43:39.420 have final

00:43:40.600 say even

00:43:41.280 over the

00:43:42.680 charter rights 0.96

00:43:43.280 of Canadian

00:43:44.260 professionals

00:43:44.820 ask them

00:43:45.640 what they

00:43:46.420 think that

00:43:47.020 means for

00:43:47.540 the rights

00:43:48.020 of the

00:43:48.360 typical

00:43:48.640 person

00:43:49.160 look guys

00:43:50.320 who are

00:43:50.920 watching and

00:43:51.420 listening and

00:43:51.840 think about

00:43:52.340 it for a

00:43:52.660 minute

00:43:52.800 if

00:43:54.340 the right

00:43:55.960 to free

00:43:56.700 speech and

00:43:57.260 thought

00:43:57.640 can be

00:43:58.360 denied to

00:44:00.740 me by

00:44:02.900 my regulatory

00:44:03.820 board and

00:44:04.460 the courts

00:44:04.960 what bloody

00:44:06.200 chance do you

00:44:06.920 think you

00:44:07.340 have and

00:44:09.060 then if that

00:44:09.760 doesn't bother

00:44:10.260 you enough

00:44:10.640 then ask

00:44:11.120 yourself this

00:44:11.780 what chance

00:44:13.060 do your

00:44:13.300 children have

00:44:13.960 you know and

00:44:15.240 if you think

00:44:15.720 I'm a crank

00:44:16.320 and that I'm

00:44:17.160 exaggerating this

00:44:17.940 well fine

00:44:18.560 you're welcome

00:44:20.040 to that opinion

00:44:20.620 you might even

00:44:21.480 be right

00:44:22.020 I don't think

00:44:23.720 so but you

00:44:24.820 might be

00:44:25.260 and you can

00:44:26.500 take your

00:44:26.860 chances just

00:44:27.440 like everyone

00:44:27.920 else but if

00:44:28.860 you think I

00:44:29.340 am right

00:44:29.820 you better

00:44:30.520 think about

00:44:31.000 it because

00:44:31.440 the news

00:44:32.800 on the

00:44:33.160 Canadian

00:44:33.460 front is

00:44:34.000 not good

00:44:34.520 this country

00:44:35.720 is in

00:44:36.120 serious

00:44:36.660 trouble

00:44:37.040 way more

00:44:38.140 than people

00:44:38.600 think

00:44:38.940 and the

00:44:40.800 most likely

00:44:41.300 outcome is

00:44:41.840 exactly I

00:44:42.420 think the

00:44:42.700 one I

00:44:42.960 described

00:44:43.420 the liberals

00:44:44.420 will be 0.69

00:44:44.660 turfed out

00:44:45.140 temporarily

00:44:45.740 Pierre

00:44:46.420 Polyev

00:44:46.860 will take

00:44:47.180 the hit

00:44:47.580 and certainly

00:44:49.240 the establishment

00:44:49.880 will do

00:44:50.260 everything they

00:44:50.940 possibly can

00:44:51.700 to blame

00:44:52.380 everything

00:44:53.060 cataclysmic

00:44:53.920 that Trudeau

00:44:54.680 has been

00:44:55.080 producing

00:44:55.540 on Polyev

00:44:56.520 that's

00:44:58.300 obviously

00:44:58.820 the best

00:44:59.320 strategy

00:44:59.880 and then

00:45:00.600 we'll have

00:45:01.220 another

00:45:01.620 Trudeau

00:45:02.880 clone

00:45:03.560 some elitist

00:45:05.520 intellectual

00:45:06.220 even though

00:45:07.560 Trudeau

00:45:07.900 is by no

00:45:08.680 means an

00:45:09.040 intellectual

00:45:09.420 he has

00:45:09.900 all the

00:45:10.180 pretensions

00:45:10.740 of an

00:45:11.100 intellectual

00:45:11.620 as a

00:45:13.040 none of

00:45:13.380 the

00:45:13.540 intelligence

00:45:14.020 or wisdom

00:45:14.660 a certain

00:45:15.560 cunning

00:45:15.940 that's

00:45:16.280 for sure

00:45:16.680 and no

00:45:17.640 shortage

00:45:17.960 of self

00:45:18.420 confidence

00:45:19.000 we'll get

00:45:20.600 another one

00:45:21.020 like him

00:45:21.480 and then

00:45:22.400 then it'll

00:45:24.640 be time

00:45:25.000 to move

00:45:25.300 to Arizona

00:45:25.900 okay

00:45:30.720 well

00:45:31.420 anything

00:45:31.860 else

00:45:32.280 kiddo

00:45:32.760 any

00:45:34.500 cautions

00:45:34.940 on your

00:45:35.380 part

00:45:35.700 I don't

00:45:40.340 think so

00:45:40.740 I think

00:45:41.120 we're set

00:45:41.680 up

00:45:41.900 pretty

00:45:42.740 well

00:45:43.060 I mean

00:45:43.560 be careful

00:45:43.980 on Twitter

00:45:44.460 or X

00:45:45.780 yeah

00:45:46.040 I will

00:45:46.600 that would

00:45:46.980 be my

00:45:47.280 caution

00:45:47.600 be careful

00:45:48.080 on X

00:45:48.600 but

00:45:48.960 and sleep

00:45:50.960 and don't

00:45:51.420 get too

00:45:52.680 upset

00:45:52.980 or angry

00:45:53.560 because it's

00:45:54.460 just

00:45:54.700 well

00:45:55.140 it's kind

00:45:56.700 of out

00:45:56.920 of your

00:45:57.220 it's really

00:45:58.740 you're really

00:45:59.160 just along

00:45:59.660 for the ride

00:46:00.220 here

00:46:00.540 you know

00:46:02.700 that's kind

00:46:03.180 of true

00:46:03.460 of life

00:46:03.840 in general

00:46:04.360 you know

00:46:04.740 you're

00:46:05.100 you're kind

00:46:05.900 of swept

00:46:06.280 along

00:46:06.680 and

00:46:07.000 you got

00:46:07.780 to ask

00:46:08.080 yourself

00:46:08.400 what you

00:46:08.800 want to

00:46:09.040 be swept

00:46:09.460 along

00:46:09.800 by

00:46:10.160 and I

00:46:11.300 would say

00:46:11.760 you want

00:46:12.700 to be swept

00:46:13.180 along by

00:46:13.700 your relationship

00:46:14.360 with God

00:46:15.080 and you want

00:46:16.560 to be swept

00:46:16.980 along by

00:46:17.420 the truth

00:46:17.920 because if

00:46:18.840 you're swept

00:46:19.460 along by

00:46:20.200 falsehood

00:46:21.340 and the

00:46:21.740 prince of

00:46:22.120 lies

00:46:22.540 you're being

00:46:24.900 swept

00:46:25.200 towards something

00:46:25.980 so abysmal

00:46:27.140 that the worst

00:46:28.880 of your paranoid

00:46:29.640 imagination

00:46:30.500 would stretch

00:46:32.840 itself beyond

00:46:33.740 its capacity

00:46:34.460 to imagine

00:46:35.160 so

00:46:37.420 I'll say

00:46:40.000 what I think

00:46:40.660 like I have

00:46:41.300 for years

00:46:41.820 and I'll

00:46:42.860 pay my

00:46:43.240 price

00:46:43.580 whatever that

00:46:44.180 is

00:46:44.380 and I'll

00:46:44.740 reap my

00:46:45.140 rewards

00:46:45.540 whatever those

00:46:46.140 might be

00:46:46.620 and I have

00:46:47.740 confidence

00:46:48.200 in the

00:46:48.840 not only

00:46:51.040 in the

00:46:51.320 outcome

00:46:51.540 but even

00:46:51.920 in the

00:46:52.180 process

00:46:52.680 painful

00:46:53.560 though it

00:46:54.000 may be

00:46:54.600 you know

00:46:55.280 at certain

00:46:55.960 moments

00:46:56.420 I got lots

00:46:58.580 of support

00:46:59.080 you know

00:47:00.320 and Tam

00:47:00.680 and I

00:47:00.960 are on the

00:47:01.340 same page

00:47:01.900 that makes

00:47:02.300 a big

00:47:02.540 difference

00:47:02.920 and so

00:47:03.340 same with

00:47:04.060 you and

00:47:04.340 Julian

00:47:04.620 I've got

00:47:04.960 lots of

00:47:05.300 support

00:47:05.600 and we've

00:47:06.280 been through

00:47:06.740 we've been

00:47:07.600 through worse

00:47:08.040 than this

00:47:08.500 man

00:47:08.880 by a lot

00:47:09.880 so

00:47:10.840 and we get

00:47:12.140 to see what

00:47:12.460 happens

00:47:12.820 you know

00:47:13.200 it's not

00:47:14.740 boring

00:47:15.160 that's for

00:47:16.960 sure

00:47:17.200 it's not

00:47:17.940 boring

00:47:18.360 yeah

00:47:19.300 okay

00:47:19.620 well

00:47:20.000 I think

00:47:20.640 that wraps

00:47:21.120 up that

00:47:21.600 very nicely

00:47:22.640 thanks dad

00:47:23.640 good luck

00:47:24.360 with everything

00:47:25.060 okay

00:47:26.260 bye bye

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - January 23, 2024

My Clinical License Is as Good as Gone

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