The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - Our Emotions and the Social Hierarchy – Part Two

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00:00:50.980 Welcome to episode 49 of the Jordan B. Peterson podcast.

00:01:01.140 I'm Michaela Peterson, Jordan's daughter.

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00:01:13.720 I hope you enjoyed this episode.

00:01:15.520 It's called Our Emotions and the Social Hierarchy, Part 2, recorded in Brisbane, Australia on February 17th, 2019.

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00:03:53.120 Our Emotions and the Social Hierarchy Part 2

00:04:02.940 A Jordan B. Peterson 12 Rules for Life Lecture

00:04:06.220 If things aren't laying themselves out in front of you the way that is necessary for you to live a full and engaged life

00:04:16.000 and not be cynical and bitter and twisted and cruel and vengeful and disappointed and all of that,

00:04:22.640 it's just possible that you're not aiming at the right thing.

00:04:27.020 And man, that is a question.

00:04:29.100 That is a question worth asking.

00:04:31.680 Well, it's a question people do ask.

00:04:33.400 It's like, well, what's the purpose of life?

00:04:35.240 Well, it's the same question.

00:04:36.680 What should I aim at?

00:04:37.840 Those are the same questions.

00:04:39.020 And, you know, if what you're aiming at is producing nothing but unrequited misery for you and everyone else

00:04:46.200 and it's a downhill bloody spiral into something approximating hell,

00:04:50.540 then there is some possibility that you should think that perhaps your aim is off.

00:04:56.320 So, and I don't want to overplay my hand on that either, too,

00:04:59.540 because I know perfectly well that, you know,

00:05:01.820 if you're suffering, if you're depressed, if you're miserable,

00:05:05.400 there might, you might be, you might just, it might be a consequence of really bad luck.

00:05:11.340 You know, like, people get sick.

00:05:13.480 And good people get sick, right?

00:05:15.060 Everyone knows that.

00:05:15.960 You know, good people, they get sick and they die. 0.77

00:05:17.960 And so you can't say, well, if you're miserable and sick,

00:05:20.640 it's because there's something, you know, bad about you.

00:05:24.060 Because then that would be the case for everyone.

00:05:27.580 Always, whenever they get ill, and you could just blame ill people.

00:05:30.700 It's like, well, it serves you right that you're sick because you're a bad person.

00:05:33.580 It happens a lot, actually, with ill people, you know, and it's an unfortunate thing.

00:05:37.680 So I know there's an element of chance to all this.

00:05:40.620 And I don't want to downplay that.

00:05:43.920 You know, we are dust in the wind, to use a terrible cliche from a 70s rock song.

00:05:51.840 We're blown hither and thither by events that are somewhat beyond our control.

00:05:56.380 But that's still not the point.

00:05:57.920 The point is that, to a large degree, you can determine the manner in which the world manifests itself to you

00:06:03.860 by changing your aim.

00:06:05.700 And so then that opens up, that opens up the entire domain of philosophy.

00:06:09.700 You think, what good is philosophy?

00:06:11.280 And people think that all the time.

00:06:12.640 What good is philosophy?

00:06:13.680 It's like, hey, philosophy is about value.

00:06:16.560 Well, what use is value?

00:06:18.040 Well, value determines your aim.

00:06:19.900 Well, who cares what your aim is?

00:06:21.360 Well, your aim determines the manner in which the world lays itself out to you emotionally.

00:06:27.720 Well, who cares about that?

00:06:29.300 No one says that.

00:06:31.420 The argument stops there.

00:06:32.700 Because no one, especially no one who's been seriously hurt or seriously depressed, like in pain,

00:06:38.180 no one ever says, oh, well, who cares about that?

00:06:40.860 Because if you can say that about your pain, all that means is you actually haven't been in pain.

00:06:46.260 Because if you're in enough pain, you will not say that.

00:06:48.760 That's for sure.

00:06:49.420 So, you need to know what to aim at.

00:06:52.860 So, now you aim at something, you've got a goal,

00:06:57.060 and then you see that you're making progress towards the goal.

00:07:01.600 That's a good thing.

00:07:03.740 That makes you happy.

00:07:06.720 It actually, technically, there's a system, dopamine system, neurochemical system,

00:07:12.000 same system, by the way, that cocaine and methamphetamine and opiates activate,

00:07:17.100 which is why people like to take those drugs.

00:07:19.420 And it tells you that you're moving forward in the manner that you should be according to the dictates of your plan.

00:07:28.460 It doesn't necessarily tell you whether you have a good plan.

00:07:31.080 That's a more complicated problem.

00:07:32.980 Because who knows if you have a good plan.

00:07:34.460 But one thing that you could know is that a plan is better than no plan.

00:07:40.220 That's a really useful thing to know, especially if you're kind of drifting.

00:07:43.680 It's like, well, I'm going to find myself.

00:07:45.580 It's like, no, just pick something and move towards it.

00:07:50.680 And as you move towards it, you're going to succeed and fail, specifically.

00:07:56.240 And then you're going to learn something about success, specifically.

00:07:59.000 And you're going to learn something about failure, specifically.

00:08:01.700 And then you can learn what you use to fix your plan. 1.00

00:08:06.640 So a stupid plan is way better than no plan. 1.00

00:08:09.440 And you're likely to have a stupid plan, or at least to be able to make one. 1.00

00:08:12.940 So that's good news for everybody. 1.00

00:08:14.360 You can make a stupid plan. 1.00

00:08:15.600 And so I would say, make a stupid plan. 1.00

00:08:18.660 And then implement it. 1.00

00:08:19.800 Not any stupider that it has to be. 0.97

00:08:21.740 You know, you could think about it a little bit. 0.97

00:08:23.300 But then implement it.

00:08:24.840 And have your successes and failures along the way.

00:08:27.780 And learn from them.

00:08:28.560 And then you can rejig the goal.

00:08:31.260 You can move the target.

00:08:32.720 That's fine.

00:08:33.880 That's part of the game.

00:08:34.920 It doesn't have to be fixed.

00:08:36.300 It's a movable target.

00:08:37.920 And maybe what you're trying to do is to move the target to an ever better place.

00:08:42.760 So you're moving towards a target.

00:08:44.500 And at the same time, you're moving the target.

00:08:46.920 Right.

00:08:47.680 And you're trying to move the target towards something like an ultimate ideal.

00:08:51.000 You're trying to find out what that ultimate ideal is.

00:08:53.440 And part of the way you figure that out is by moving towards a target.

00:08:56.520 And by learning about success and failure along the way.

00:08:59.140 Because then you can inform yourself with regards to what might constitute a reasonable aim.

00:09:04.360 And so that's the reason to go out in the world and make some mistakes.

00:09:07.940 You know.

00:09:08.460 And then you're going to.

00:09:09.900 And so it's okay.

00:09:11.480 It's okay to make the mistakes.

00:09:13.120 It's not so okay not to learn from them.

00:09:15.240 Because then you make the mistakes again.

00:09:17.120 That seems pointless.

00:09:18.080 And so you're moving towards wherever you're going.

00:09:21.000 And it's working.

00:09:21.720 And so you get some positive emotion.

00:09:25.500 You get some motivation from this dopaminergic system that adds zest to life.

00:09:31.400 It adds interest and engagement and meaning to life.

00:09:34.620 It pulls you into life.

00:09:36.080 And so and that's worth thinking about.

00:09:38.500 I would say because if you think about it.

00:09:41.540 You know you have might wonder about whether or not you should be engaged in life.

00:09:45.660 And then if all of a sudden you're doing something.

00:09:48.020 And because you're doing it you get engaged in life.

00:09:50.800 Then it seems like that might be the very definition of a good thing.

00:09:55.860 It's evidence.

00:09:56.660 The engagement is evidence that you're actually doing a good thing.

00:10:00.380 A worthwhile thing in life with all its suffering and misery and brutality.

00:10:04.720 It's like you've got a pathway.

00:10:06.340 You've got an aim.

00:10:07.120 You're moving forward.

00:10:08.120 You're engaged.

00:10:09.140 Excellent.

00:10:10.080 Your nervous system very deep down.

00:10:12.380 This dopaminergic system.

00:10:14.080 It's associated with a part of the brain called the hypothalamus.

00:10:17.060 It's a really really old part of the brain.

00:10:19.740 It's not some new thing that popped up like 15,000 years ago.

00:10:23.580 It's ancient.

00:10:25.000 It's there to orient you in the world.

00:10:27.180 It's part of the instinct for meaning that I talked about in chapter.

00:10:30.740 I think it's chapter 7.

00:10:32.020 Do what is meaningful and not what is expedient.

00:10:34.280 It's a deep deep instinct.

00:10:37.040 And way down in way down in your psychophysiological structure.

00:10:41.860 Not as far down as the serotonin system.

00:10:43.780 But like next level up.

00:10:45.920 And so if it's saying hey man you're on the right track.

00:10:48.680 It's like that's worth noticing.

00:10:52.700 It's worth noticing.

00:10:53.960 Now you can criticize it out of existence.

00:10:56.220 You can question your aim continually.

00:10:59.160 It's one of the what would you call it?

00:11:01.640 Dangers of our capacity to abstract.

00:11:04.000 But you know if you're a smart person who doubts.

00:11:07.100 You also might be smart enough now and then to doubt your doubt.

00:11:11.800 And just to notice and to pay attention.

00:11:14.600 And something I explain to my clinical clients and my students often.

00:11:17.940 And it's like if you're trying to put your life together.

00:11:20.040 Watch yourself for a couple of weeks.

00:11:21.740 Like you don't know who you are.

00:11:23.860 Because if your life isn't together you don't know who you are.

00:11:26.520 So just watch yourself like you don't know who you are.

00:11:28.700 And notice now and then if you're engaged in something.

00:11:33.240 You know and you kind of have to wake up.

00:11:35.220 Because if you're engaged in it you don't quite notice.

00:11:37.260 Right?

00:11:37.380 Because you're engaged in it.

00:11:38.700 But afterwards you might think.

00:11:40.100 Oh I just spent an hour.

00:11:42.580 And I didn't notice that it was an hour.

00:11:45.480 I was in it.

00:11:48.880 That's good.

00:11:50.220 You're in the right place at the right time.

00:11:52.100 Doing the right thing.

00:11:52.920 There's something about that that's right.

00:11:55.180 And maybe like you're not in good shape.

00:11:56.860 And that happened to you like 15 minutes once in two weeks.

00:12:00.760 It's like that's pretty dismal. 0.72

00:12:01.960 And the rest of the time it was wretched.

00:12:03.440 It's like okay fine.

00:12:04.480 Well maybe in the next two weeks you can see if you can do it for half an hour.

00:12:07.700 And then maybe for 45 minutes.

00:12:09.420 And then maybe for an hour.

00:12:10.680 Right?

00:12:10.840 You can start practicing being in that place.

00:12:14.660 That's a very useful thing to learn.

00:12:16.380 It's like oh look I'm interested in what I'm doing.

00:12:18.280 I'm engaged in it.

00:12:19.320 Now how did I get here?

00:12:20.840 Where am I exactly?

00:12:22.300 And how did I get here?

00:12:23.300 And how could I stay here?

00:12:24.880 How could I be here more often?

00:12:26.660 Those are all questions you have to ask yourself.

00:12:28.560 Well that's the beginning of philosophy as well.

00:12:30.980 And you think well why bother?

00:12:32.620 And the answer is well do you want to be engaged in your life?

00:12:35.900 Well why would you?

00:12:36.960 Well it's positive.

00:12:41.060 It's analgesic.

00:12:42.240 It fights off pain.

00:12:43.540 It quells anxiety.

00:12:45.020 It gives you purpose.

00:12:46.420 It's good for you practically speaking.

00:12:48.560 Generally speaking if you have an aim and you're moving forward.

00:12:51.040 You're moving forward to something that's psychologically valuable.

00:12:54.400 But also practically valuable.

00:12:55.940 If it's really a good aim also it's good for you now, tomorrow, the next day, the next

00:13:01.700 month because you're smart enough to generally smart enough to calibrate yourself so that

00:13:07.980 things that are really bad for you don't have that engaging quality.

00:13:12.680 Now it's not perfect especially if you've messed yourself up psychologically by lying to

00:13:17.600 yourself in all sorts of different ways.

00:13:19.520 But it's still not a bad orienting system.

00:13:22.520 And then the other thing you can also notice is well when are you doing things that make

00:13:26.640 you feel really awful?

00:13:29.280 By your own standards.

00:13:30.680 It's like oh look I just did something.

00:13:32.220 I had some interaction with someone and now I feel awful.

00:13:34.800 It's like well maybe you could not do that.

00:13:39.980 Whatever it was.

00:13:41.040 You might have to think it through.

00:13:42.400 What were the routines that constituted that ill-advised set of actions?

00:13:47.780 And maybe you're going to have to think really deeply about it you know because God only

00:13:51.120 knows how much of your personality structure is involved in that error.

00:13:55.440 But if it made you wretched, it made you feel like life wasn't worth living then that might

00:14:00.020 be a hint that that wasn't a good thing to do.

00:14:02.420 And so then maybe you could start doing more of the things that make you engaged and less

00:14:06.780 of the things that make you hate life.

00:14:08.820 And that's worthy of practice let's say.

00:14:13.460 You might think about that as a fundamental ethical requirement or I would say it's a

00:14:18.040 fundamental form of religious meditation.

00:14:20.500 That's a better way of thinking about it.

00:14:22.260 And so then you're on the path.

00:14:23.520 That's the straight and narrow path.

00:14:24.980 It's like I'm moving forward.

00:14:27.400 I've got an aim.

00:14:28.200 I'm moving forward.

00:14:29.320 As I move forward I'm engaged.

00:14:31.240 It's bloody well worth walking down this pathway.

00:14:33.980 And you know on the left of me is terror and horror and hell and pain and I'm avoiding

00:14:39.420 that.

00:14:40.180 And to the right of me perhaps is ego and arrogance and the things that can get out of control

00:14:44.140 with regards to positive emotion.

00:14:46.200 But I've got that balance right.

00:14:47.660 I'm on the right pathway.

00:14:49.040 Okay and now we think about what might constitute the right pathway.

00:14:52.080 Well I can tell you a pathway that works for me to some degree.

00:14:58.660 So this is a value structure that's characteristic of me of things I do.

00:15:05.440 I type because I write and so that's pure action right.

00:15:09.960 I type letters.

00:15:10.980 I type words.

00:15:12.080 I type phrases.

00:15:13.040 I type sentences.

00:15:14.060 I type paragraphs.

00:15:15.080 I type chapters.

00:15:16.300 I write books.

00:15:17.100 And then people and then I talk about the books and people read the books.

00:15:22.260 And the reason that they can understand the books is because we're a lot the same.

00:15:26.580 You know like there's a lot of things that have to be the same about you and me before

00:15:30.420 I can write a book that you can read.

00:15:32.500 And I have to be able to take them for granted.

00:15:35.060 And so the reason I'm telling you that is because there's an important relationship between

00:15:41.800 my hierarchy of values and your hierarchy of values if we're going to be able to communicate

00:15:46.920 and if we're going to be able to occupy the same place at the same time.

00:15:50.980 You know so if I'm writing a book like Twelve Rules for Life and it has a discussion about

00:15:55.640 what constitutes the good in it then I have to start with the presupposition that we share

00:16:03.020 some fundamental intuition about what constitutes the good or my words will fall on deaf ears.

00:16:11.040 Okay and it's partly because

00:16:13.300 and this is maybe the relationship between the social world and the psychological world

00:16:21.960 that I wanted to talk about.

00:16:23.360 As I build up my hierarchy of skill and ability, perception and emotional regulation

00:16:30.140 you know from slicing carrots upwards you know.

00:16:33.660 I'm a good cook, I'm a good parent, maybe I'm a good man, maybe I'm a good person you know.

00:16:40.320 And all of those cover a broader and broader range of abstractions and abilities.

00:16:45.200 There has to be a relationship between that and what other people think.

00:16:49.140 You know because look if you're, your kid, you teach your kid to set the table and then

00:16:55.080 he goes to someone else's house and sets the table and he gets a swat.

00:16:59.700 It's like well what's the consequence of that?

00:17:01.920 Well the consequence of that is that the kid is going to be unhappy.

00:17:06.020 Well why?

00:17:07.380 Well it's because the kid did a lot of work building up all those separate skills to undertake

00:17:14.140 that complex activity.

00:17:15.760 And it really is a complex activity.

00:17:17.420 You don't have a robot at home that sets the table. 0.99

00:17:19.800 You know you have a cell phone and it's smart but it can't set the damn table. 0.98

00:17:23.700 It's complicated to do that sort of thing. 0.96

00:17:25.540 And so your kid had built this complicated neurological structure as a consequence of reward

00:17:31.540 primarily because reward helps build neurological structures.

00:17:35.880 He built this whole structure and now what he's hoping is that all the work that went into

00:17:41.100 building that structure is something that other people will appreciate as well.

00:17:45.820 So that's where you need the isomorphism between the intra-psychic structure, the psychological

00:17:53.380 structure and the social structure which is why we have to have a shared social reality.

00:17:58.160 This is partly why I think the post-modernists went off the rails so badly with their insistence

00:18:02.920 that the world was only language.

00:18:04.580 It's like it is in some sense very important that you construe the world the same way I do

00:18:11.140 even though there's a very wide range of ways of construing the world.

00:18:14.800 We come to some negotiated agreement about what's good and what isn't so that when I do things

00:18:20.300 that I think are good you also think they're good so that I get rewarded for my good behavior

00:18:25.840 and I get let's say punished for my bad behavior because that's often a relief as well by the way.

00:18:30.380 And so we have to have our own internal structure of values that we're pursuing

00:18:35.980 because otherwise we don't have any meaning in our life and that's no damn good

00:18:40.240 and then it has to be nested inside a shared structure of values that's similar

00:18:45.780 so that when we act out what we have learned to be good we're treated by the world as if that's good

00:18:52.480 and then we have peace.

00:18:54.260 That's the definition of a functioning political system.

00:18:58.200 We've organized a moral game, a very complex one

00:19:02.700 and then we master it through reciprocal interaction with one another

00:19:07.240 we internalize it so that it regulates our emotions

00:19:10.060 then we act it out in the world and if there's a concordance

00:19:13.240 between the way we act it out and the way the world responds

00:19:16.820 then we're okay.

00:19:18.780 Because there's nothing more disturbing to you than to act out a high order moral good

00:19:24.480 let's say you're working really hard at your job for example

00:19:27.120 and you're hoping for a promotion

00:19:28.580 and let's say you deserve a promotion by all reasonable standards

00:19:32.160 and then you don't get one.

00:19:34.580 You know, it's taken, it's given to, I don't know, it's given to the boss's mistress 0.98

00:19:38.140 or some damn thing or, you know, it's given to someone 0.97

00:19:41.920 who doesn't deserve it by the canonical rules of the moral game 0.99

00:19:47.180 and all it does is devastate you

00:19:49.460 and the reason that it devastates you is because it disrupts the relationship

00:19:53.860 between the internal moral hierarchy that you've built

00:19:56.480 and the collective hierarchy

00:19:57.960 and everything you have is staked on maintaining that isomorphism.

00:20:02.460 You know, and it's the same even in intimate relationships.

00:20:06.140 You know, if you do something good for your wife or your husband

00:20:09.480 you know, you go out of the way maybe to make a nice meal

00:20:12.520 and they come home and they punish you arbitrarily for some tiny fault

00:20:17.300 maybe with the dinner

00:20:18.460 it's very disheartening

00:20:20.300 and the reason is it violates your faith

00:20:23.980 first of all in your own intra-psychic hierarchy

00:20:27.460 second in the structure of the social hierarchy

00:20:31.380 and third in the match between them

00:20:33.500 and it's the match between them that's really important

00:20:35.600 we do not like mismatch between what we expect

00:20:40.380 especially in terms of reward

00:20:42.080 especially when we've really worked at it

00:20:43.820 and what we're delivered

00:20:45.320 right?

00:20:46.200 and so that's partly how we

00:20:47.600 it's partly a complicated explanation of how we regulate our emotions

00:20:51.960 you know, we regulate them by aiming

00:20:54.080 that's important

00:20:55.280 we regulate them by walking the straight and narrow path

00:20:59.400 but then we also regulate them by being fortunate enough

00:21:03.900 to be in a situation where if we walk the straight and narrow path properly

00:21:08.740 then other people respond positively to us

00:21:11.980 and then you have this lovely harmony

00:21:14.740 and it's a right way of thinking about it

00:21:16.780 it's a musical way of thinking about it

00:21:18.320 there's you composed of this very unbelievably complex nested set of patterns

00:21:24.780 beautiful patterns that you spent forever working on

00:21:27.460 and then they're nested inside a social structure

00:21:29.800 that's also patterned in the same way

00:21:32.080 and those are working harmoniously together like a dance

00:21:35.360 and that's perfect

00:21:36.680 it's the meeting of the individual with society

00:21:40.360 and it's the secret to harmonious emotional regulation

00:21:44.840 and more

00:21:45.560 and to cooperation

00:21:46.480 and to proper competition

00:21:48.440 and to movement forward practically in the world

00:21:51.980 all of that

00:21:53.040 and so

00:21:54.260 okay, well, I'll close with just a description of what a hierarchy might look like

00:21:58.940 and a brief description of how it is that you calculate when you make a major mistake

00:22:05.560 so my hierarchy would be something like this

00:22:08.560 I type letters

00:22:10.640 I type words

00:22:11.520 phrases, sentences

00:22:12.660 paragraphs

00:22:14.220 I sequence the paragraphs

00:22:15.800 I make chapters

00:22:16.680 I write books

00:22:17.820 it's all coherently laid out towards some higher order aim

00:22:22.820 all of that

00:22:23.580 and the aim is

00:22:24.580 as far as I'm concerned

00:22:26.080 to share my clinical knowledge

00:22:28.360 and to educate people

00:22:29.680 and that makes sense

00:22:30.940 because I'm a clinician and a researcher

00:22:32.740 and a professor

00:22:33.720 and so if I was going to do that

00:22:35.140 I've decided I'm going to do that

00:22:36.920 so that's what I'm doing

00:22:38.240 and hopefully that's a good thing

00:22:40.400 and hopefully people respond to it as if it's a good thing

00:22:44.280 because then that's a good thing for me

00:22:46.140 and it's a good thing for them

00:22:47.200 and so that seems to be like the very definition of a good thing

00:22:50.580 and I'm trying to set things straight

00:22:53.620 I'm trying to set myself straight by writing carefully

00:22:57.020 I'm trying to set the culture straight by saying what I believe to be the case

00:23:02.300 I'm trying to set other individuals straighter by communicating with them

00:23:06.060 I'm trying to ensure that we can live more harmoniously in our culture and in the world

00:23:11.860 and you think

00:23:12.420 well those are good things to have at the outermost reaches of your value hierarchy

00:23:17.600 you know my friend of mine was talking to me about bricklayers the other day

00:23:21.660 and he's trying to restructure a major company at the moment

00:23:24.300 and we were talking about how to motivate people

00:23:26.540 he said well let's say you're a bricklayer 0.99

00:23:28.060 it's like you know one damn brick after another 0.98

00:23:31.140 how are you going to be excited about that 0.99

00:23:33.180 well let's say you're a medieval bricklayer

00:23:35.520 right and it's 1500

00:23:37.820 and you're working in one of the great

00:23:41.340 you're working in one of the great early renaissance cities in Europe

00:23:46.280 and it isn't a wall you're building

00:23:48.380 it's a cathedral

00:23:49.160 it's going to take 350 years

00:23:51.880 and why are you doing that

00:23:52.900 well it's for the ultimate glory of God

00:23:55.260 whatever that means

00:23:56.480 and so you're not putting one brick down after another

00:23:59.980 it's like you're involved in this unbelievably complicated moral structure

00:24:04.600 that stretches really stretches all the way up to heaven itself so to speak

00:24:08.120 and each of your minor actions you know your local actions

00:24:11.900 is imbued with the spirit of that entire moral structure

00:24:15.700 well that's a philosophy

00:24:17.480 it's like well do you have a meaning in life

00:24:20.120 what's the meaning of life

00:24:21.740 well hopefully it isn't just unrequited suffering and malevolence

00:24:27.060 we could dispense with that as much as possible

00:24:29.520 that might be a good start

00:24:30.740 but then to aim high

00:24:32.440 well that seems to be reasonable

00:24:34.200 to aim as high as you can

00:24:35.700 and we've laid out things that could be aimed at

00:24:38.060 you could constrain yourself

00:24:39.700 you know there are things you're not doing

00:24:41.540 and things that you shouldn't be doing

00:24:43.080 you stop doing the things that you shouldn't be doing

00:24:45.540 and start doing the things you should be doing

00:24:47.640 that's a good start

00:24:48.820 wake up enough so that you can set the structures around you right

00:24:52.540 it's your moral obligation as a citizen

00:24:55.300 your responsibility and your divine duty I would say

00:24:59.080 from our cultural perspective

00:25:00.800 because in the west everyone is regarded as a sovereign individual

00:25:04.680 the fate of the state

00:25:07.820 a sovereign individual

00:25:09.800 on whose shoulders rests the fate and the health of the state

00:25:15.260 right?

00:25:16.100 that's the fundamental presupposition

00:25:17.940 otherwise well why do you get to vote?

00:25:21.200 just to make a mistake?

00:25:22.640 well no that's not it

00:25:23.940 you're supposed to be awake

00:25:25.000 so that the ship of state continues to move forward in the appropriate direction

00:25:30.060 and somehow we've decided

00:25:31.460 that's up to you

00:25:33.020 why?

00:25:34.080 well because we've also decided

00:25:35.780 hey man

00:25:36.680 you can do it

00:25:38.500 and not only that

00:25:39.400 no one else can

00:25:40.860 and so that's something to know

00:25:42.900 and might be something to take seriously

00:25:45.000 it's like

00:25:45.440 who knows what the hell you'd be 0.75

00:25:46.780 if you got your act together

00:25:47.900 and I think you would be

00:25:49.300 like you'd be a force to contend with

00:25:51.340 you know

00:25:51.720 you'd have constrained the malevolence of

00:25:54.100 in your own soul

00:25:55.060 and you'd have started to take advantage

00:25:57.200 of the potential that's around you

00:25:58.780 and to build yourself out of that potential

00:26:00.940 into God only knows what

00:26:02.600 you know

00:26:03.380 and then maybe with that wisdom

00:26:06.040 you can set the structures around you in order

00:26:08.640 at least more in order than they are

00:26:10.460 or maybe to disintegrate them a bit when they need it

00:26:13.340 and to restructure them

00:26:14.340 so they're even better than they are

00:26:15.620 and you can push back nature

00:26:17.820 in its horrible form

00:26:19.700 and invite it forward in its positive form

00:26:22.360 and make things better for you

00:26:23.860 and for your family

00:26:24.940 and for your community

00:26:25.940 and you can approach the unknown itself

00:26:27.960 and you can explore that

00:26:29.660 the potential that's out there

00:26:30.980 and you can bring back the treasure

00:26:32.860 that's part of the unknown potential

00:26:35.020 and you can distribute that

00:26:36.680 and that is what you can do

00:26:38.700 and then not only that

00:26:40.060 it's what you need to do

00:26:41.440 because you need to have

00:26:43.040 a meaning in your life

00:26:44.620 an aim

00:26:46.100 a value structure

00:26:47.180 that's of sufficient potency

00:26:50.040 and magnitude

00:26:51.420 to justify the limitations

00:26:54.400 and the trouble

00:26:55.300 that life constitutes

00:26:56.540 right

00:26:56.920 it's not

00:26:57.240 this is no trivial business

00:26:58.680 that we're involved in

00:26:59.720 right

00:27:00.160 we're all in this

00:27:01.180 up to our necks

00:27:02.220 literally

00:27:02.880 it's a

00:27:03.440 it's a mortal game

00:27:05.120 you're all in

00:27:06.380 and there's

00:27:07.640 and

00:27:07.900 and to play it wrong

00:27:09.360 is

00:27:09.580 is to risk

00:27:10.880 suffering and hell

00:27:12.540 and I'm not talking about

00:27:14.000 afterlife

00:27:14.660 I'm not talking about

00:27:15.800 something metaphysical

00:27:16.760 you can generate plenty of hell 0.88

00:27:18.580 right here around you 0.97

00:27:20.040 plenty

00:27:20.720 an unlimited amount

00:27:22.380 and so

00:27:23.080 you can

00:27:23.820 move towards that direction

00:27:25.560 or you can move towards

00:27:26.580 a positive direction

00:27:27.560 and you can orient yourself

00:27:29.660 and you know

00:27:30.740 you can know

00:27:31.440 you can learn

00:27:32.260 this is why the postmodernists

00:27:33.980 are so incorrect

00:27:34.760 it's like

00:27:35.260 look

00:27:35.800 you need a name

00:27:37.120 you need a name

00:27:39.360 you cannot organize

00:27:40.680 the way you look at the world

00:27:42.960 without a name

00:27:43.780 it's not optional

00:27:45.260 and then the question is

00:27:46.760 well

00:27:46.980 what should the aim be

00:27:48.600 well

00:27:49.060 probably not to

00:27:51.920 radically increase

00:27:53.620 the amount of misery

00:27:54.660 and suffering

00:27:55.360 that you experience

00:27:56.340 in everyone else

00:27:57.140 I mean

00:27:57.440 maybe you want to go that route

00:27:58.720 but

00:27:58.960 and people do

00:28:02.600 but

00:28:02.780 I think they only do

00:28:03.920 when they become bitter

00:28:04.920 and they give up

00:28:06.080 you know

00:28:06.440 and they make mistakes

00:28:07.880 they know they're making

00:28:09.180 right

00:28:09.540 it's

00:28:09.780 it's conscious decision

00:28:11.280 to go down that route

00:28:12.340 it's not like they think

00:28:13.420 that's okay to begin with

00:28:14.800 their aim's wrong

00:28:16.540 it's like

00:28:17.540 straighten out your aim

00:28:19.220 so

00:28:19.940 there's an old idea

00:28:21.480 this idea of sin

00:28:22.580 sin

00:28:23.100 is a word that was derived

00:28:24.580 from a Greek word

00:28:25.380 hamartia

00:28:25.960 and hamartia

00:28:27.020 is an archery term

00:28:28.060 and it means

00:28:28.580 to miss

00:28:29.300 the target

00:28:30.160 and so you think

00:28:32.260 well how can you miss

00:28:32.960 the target

00:28:33.460 well

00:28:34.420 you have no weapon

00:28:36.500 well then you miss

00:28:38.640 the target

00:28:39.200 you

00:28:40.020 you have no target

00:28:42.780 you have no aim

00:28:44.300 well then

00:28:44.760 then you miss the target

00:28:45.860 you don't pick up your bow

00:28:47.980 well then you miss the target

00:28:49.420 you don't draw it back

00:28:50.660 then you miss the target

00:28:51.760 you don't practice

00:28:53.020 and

00:28:53.240 and miss

00:28:54.100 many times

00:28:55.140 right

00:28:55.460 because

00:28:55.980 you have to do that

00:28:57.320 to develop the skill

00:28:58.140 to hit the target

00:28:58.880 so you're not willing

00:28:59.920 to take the risk

00:29:00.640 to miss

00:29:01.180 you

00:29:02.200 you do none of that

00:29:03.220 and so

00:29:03.840 you miss the target

00:29:05.020 and that's the sin

00:29:06.720 and then

00:29:07.420 you miss your life

00:29:08.700 and then

00:29:09.480 what happens around you

00:29:11.240 is that

00:29:11.620 well there's far more hell

00:29:13.420 than there has to be

00:29:14.460 and there's much less heaven

00:29:15.900 than there could be

00:29:16.860 and it's on you

00:29:17.960 and that's part of your

00:29:20.520 what would you say

00:29:21.400 your divine value

00:29:22.520 let's say

00:29:23.180 that sets you aside

00:29:25.580 along with everyone else

00:29:27.480 as

00:29:27.720 as something

00:29:28.800 someone

00:29:30.100 some being

00:29:30.740 that even the law

00:29:31.900 itself

00:29:32.560 has to respect

00:29:33.640 intrinsically

00:29:34.400 and it's marked out

00:29:35.780 in our culture

00:29:36.540 by

00:29:36.860 the sovereignty

00:29:38.340 that you possess

00:29:39.320 and the notion

00:29:40.240 that

00:29:40.600 there's something in you

00:29:41.740 that's made

00:29:42.460 in the image of God

00:29:43.700 something that can

00:29:44.840 confront the unknown

00:29:45.880 and to

00:29:46.380 create

00:29:47.300 habitable order

00:29:48.660 out of chaos

00:29:49.500 and potential

00:29:50.240 and to do that properly

00:29:51.940 and that's all

00:29:53.660 true

00:29:54.380 as far as I can tell

00:29:55.680 and it's all

00:29:56.660 necessary to know

00:29:58.300 it's coded

00:29:59.280 in the deepest stories

00:30:00.440 that are at the base

00:30:01.780 of our culture

00:30:02.440 and we're

00:30:02.900 we're in danger

00:30:03.840 of not understanding them

00:30:05.460 and not believing them

00:30:07.120 and it's a big mistake

00:30:08.420 because

00:30:09.120 they're heavy

00:30:10.720 and profound

00:30:11.900 and

00:30:12.840 weighty

00:30:14.120 and fundamental

00:30:15.400 and necessary

00:30:16.960 because you have to stand

00:30:18.600 on something

00:30:19.120 that's solid

00:30:19.960 or

00:30:20.560 everything is sand

00:30:21.860 and you

00:30:22.220 you fall in

00:30:23.260 and you're done

00:30:24.420 and so is everything

00:30:25.600 around you

00:30:26.280 well

00:30:29.040 so that's

00:30:30.040 what was the name

00:30:32.100 of the talk

00:30:32.720 what was the name

00:30:34.340 of the talk

00:30:34.920 I don't even remember

00:30:36.980 what the hell

00:30:37.540 I titled it now

00:30:38.520 part of it is

00:30:41.020 yes

00:30:41.500 the relationship

00:30:42.240 between

00:30:42.760 your internal

00:30:43.660 psychological structure

00:30:44.820 and the social world

00:30:45.760 that was part of it

00:30:47.260 and then

00:30:48.040 the

00:30:49.160 manner

00:30:50.780 by which you

00:30:51.620 estimate magnitude

00:30:52.780 of error

00:30:53.260 I suppose

00:30:53.720 that's the last thing

00:30:54.500 I should say

00:30:55.120 you have a value hierarchy

00:30:58.160 we already described

00:30:59.720 what that is

00:31:00.320 ranging from

00:31:01.060 the trivial

00:31:01.720 motor actions

00:31:02.580 that you undertake

00:31:03.240 to the highest order

00:31:04.460 aims

00:31:05.040 what makes you upset

00:31:07.480 your determination

00:31:09.880 of how far

00:31:11.140 up

00:31:11.540 in the hierarchy

00:31:12.540 the error

00:31:13.580 you have made

00:31:14.460 has disrupted

00:31:15.580 things

00:31:16.160 you know

00:31:17.360 so

00:31:17.660 you tell your kid

00:31:19.220 you didn't put that spoon

00:31:21.720 on the table

00:31:22.240 quite right

00:31:22.880 and then they're a little upset

00:31:24.440 you know

00:31:24.760 but it's

00:31:25.760 whatever

00:31:26.160 you twist the spoon

00:31:28.400 it's fixed

00:31:29.100 or you say

00:31:29.840 you know 1.00

00:31:30.060 you're a rotten kid 1.00

00:31:31.120 and you've always been 1.00

00:31:32.380 a rotten kid 0.99

00:31:33.000 and I don't see 0.83

00:31:33.580 that there's much hope

00:31:34.360 for you in the future

00:31:35.200 it's like

00:31:36.260 well

00:31:36.560 well people do that

00:31:38.140 when they argue

00:31:38.700 with people they love

00:31:39.560 and they do that

00:31:40.100 quite a bit

00:31:40.680 it's like

00:31:41.160 they've taken them out

00:31:42.260 at the highest level

00:31:43.260 of their value hierarchy

00:31:44.420 right

00:31:44.740 and that makes people

00:31:45.680 really upset

00:31:46.560 and the reason for that

00:31:47.780 is

00:31:48.020 well it wipes out

00:31:49.200 their whole map

00:31:50.000 and so there's also

00:31:51.720 a relationship

00:31:52.560 this is an interesting

00:31:53.660 thing to know

00:31:54.300 between

00:31:54.880 how upset you get

00:31:56.720 emotionally

00:31:57.420 and how important

00:31:58.780 it is

00:31:59.320 how important

00:32:00.360 the thing that you're

00:32:01.180 pursuing is

00:32:01.900 that's being criticized

00:32:03.000 and it's

00:32:04.220 and with a practical note

00:32:05.580 you know

00:32:05.840 if you're arguing

00:32:06.620 with someone

00:32:07.220 here's something

00:32:08.600 you can think about

00:32:09.340 you want them

00:32:10.900 to change their behavior

00:32:11.880 the first thing

00:32:13.020 you want to do is

00:32:13.720 you want to sort of

00:32:15.340 pat them on the head

00:32:16.160 and say 0.85

00:32:16.740 you weren't horrible

00:32:20.500 all the time

00:32:21.080 in the past

00:32:21.640 and you're not horrible

00:32:22.380 all the time now

00:32:23.300 and you probably

00:32:23.860 won't be horrible

00:32:24.440 all the time

00:32:25.340 in the future

00:32:26.020 so we'll just get

00:32:27.020 that out of

00:32:27.520 out of the way

00:32:28.440 but there's a small

00:32:29.680 thing that you do

00:32:30.760 that could use

00:32:32.820 a little improvement

00:32:33.540 and

00:32:34.440 here's

00:32:35.720 how you can improve it

00:32:37.020 and I would be

00:32:38.240 satisfied and happy

00:32:39.440 with that

00:32:39.960 if you tried it

00:32:41.060 would you be willing to

00:32:42.860 and then

00:32:43.800 they improve

00:32:45.300 incrementally

00:32:46.000 and over time

00:32:47.000 maybe

00:32:47.520 if you're very careful

00:32:48.740 with such things

00:32:49.500 and you don't do them

00:32:50.180 too often

00:32:50.640 and you also allow

00:32:51.800 the other person

00:32:52.600 to do that to you

00:32:53.720 as well

00:32:54.280 then you get

00:32:55.140 incremental improvements

00:32:56.680 without taking

00:32:57.780 chopping people off

00:32:59.360 at the knees 0.74

00:32:59.880 so to speak

00:33:00.480 when you're criticizing

00:33:01.340 the way that they're behaving

00:33:02.460 all right

00:33:05.860 well how to conclude

00:33:07.200 all that

00:33:08.320 you can't look at the world

00:33:11.800 without a name

00:33:12.420 literally

00:33:14.940 you can't even

00:33:16.020 perceive it

00:33:16.620 you cannot

00:33:17.480 regulate your emotions

00:33:19.040 without an aim

00:33:19.800 the better your aim

00:33:22.740 the more precise

00:33:24.140 your aim

00:33:24.660 the more elevated

00:33:26.020 your aim

00:33:26.700 you remember

00:33:27.460 in Pinocchio

00:33:28.400 when Geppetto

00:33:29.200 wants to turn

00:33:29.860 Pinocchio

00:33:30.260 into a real boy

00:33:31.160 he wishes on a star

00:33:32.560 it's a strange thing

00:33:34.160 eh

00:33:34.360 but everybody

00:33:35.020 just accepts it

00:33:35.920 it's like

00:33:36.220 well yeah

00:33:36.600 if you've got a puppet

00:33:37.440 you just made a puppet

00:33:38.640 and you want to turn it

00:33:39.380 into a boy

00:33:40.080 the logical thing to do

00:33:41.880 is open the window

00:33:42.720 and wish on a star

00:33:43.800 everyone knows that

00:33:44.880 it's like

00:33:45.300 none of that makes

00:33:46.240 the least bit of sense

00:33:47.300 obviously

00:33:48.200 except metaphorically

00:33:49.700 but we do understand it

00:33:51.000 because we can watch that

00:33:52.080 and it makes sense

00:33:52.960 there's something magical about it

00:33:54.520 and there is something magical about it

00:33:56.340 because the truth of the matter is

00:33:57.960 is that if you want to

00:33:58.960 transform

00:33:59.620 something that's nothing

00:34:01.300 but a wooden headed puppet

00:34:02.640 into something that's a fully functional

00:34:04.760 autonomous

00:34:05.720 moral autonomous individual

00:34:07.960 then what you do

00:34:09.000 is you elevate your eyes

00:34:10.500 above the horizon

00:34:11.380 to the highest point of light

00:34:12.840 that you can perceive

00:34:13.840 and you aim at that

00:34:16.360 and that works

00:34:18.000 and that works for you

00:34:19.560 and it works for your partner

00:34:20.700 and it works for your children

00:34:21.820 and it works for the world

00:34:23.140 thank you

00:34:25.000 very much

00:34:25.940 going online without expressvpn

00:34:41.360 is like not paying attention

00:34:42.560 to the safety demonstration

00:34:43.640 on a flight

00:34:44.280 most of the time

00:34:45.420 you'll probably be fine

00:34:46.620 but what if one day

00:34:47.960 that weird yellow mask

00:34:49.180 drops down from overhead

00:34:50.200 and you have no idea

00:34:51.700 what to do

00:34:52.220 in our hyper-connected world

00:34:53.820 your digital privacy

00:34:54.920 isn't just a luxury

00:34:56.040 it's a fundamental right

00:34:57.480 every time you connect

00:34:58.400 to an unsecured network

00:34:59.580 in a cafe, hotel, or airport

00:35:01.540 you're essentially broadcasting

00:35:03.060 your personal information

00:35:04.140 to anyone with a technical know-how

00:35:06.020 to intercept it

00:35:06.840 and let's be clear

00:35:07.660 it doesn't take a genius hacker

00:35:09.200 to do this

00:35:09.840 with some off-the-shelf hardware

00:35:11.520 even a tech-savvy teenager

00:35:13.100 could potentially access

00:35:14.240 your passwords, bank logins,

00:35:16.060 and credit card details

00:35:17.240 now you might think

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00:37:23.660 okay well let's get

00:37:27.780 to the serious things

00:37:28.780 here first

00:37:29.540 105 of you

00:37:31.700 think that this is

00:37:33.100 of crucial importance

00:37:34.680 are you subscribed

00:37:37.020 to PewDiePie

00:37:38.080 yes as a matter of fact

00:37:45.420 he's been fighting

00:37:48.120 with some company

00:37:49.020 right for dominance

00:37:50.080 of YouTube

00:37:52.060 yeah yeah yeah

00:37:53.700 so yeah

00:37:54.180 I subscribed to him

00:37:57.820 a long while back

00:37:59.040 and tweeted it

00:37:59.720 and hopefully got

00:38:00.520 some other people

00:38:01.060 to subscribe to him

00:38:01.940 too because

00:38:02.420 what the hell

00:38:03.680 so alright 0.73

00:38:05.880 so there we go

00:38:07.880 um

00:38:08.840 where

00:38:11.780 there was one here

00:38:13.260 I thought was

00:38:13.740 quite a me

00:38:14.240 oh who would wear

00:38:15.060 when in a bare knuckle

00:38:16.220 brawl between you

00:38:17.280 Ben Shapiro

00:38:18.200 and Justin Trudeau

00:38:20.000 well

00:38:22.440 Ben's a malevolent 0.97

00:38:24.880 little creature 0.98

00:38:25.540 so

00:38:25.940 so he might have

00:38:30.100 some dirty tricks

00:38:30.880 up his sleeve

00:38:31.500 but he doesn't

00:38:32.080 he doesn't have

00:38:33.100 much of a reach

00:38:33.880 on him

00:38:34.500 um

00:38:35.360 Trudeau

00:38:37.900 Trudeau

00:38:39.580 he can box

00:38:42.300 so

00:38:43.700 he

00:38:44.500 he'd probably

00:38:46.700 get me on

00:38:47.280 technical skills

00:38:48.540 and I'm

00:38:48.940 I'm quite a bit

00:38:49.660 older but

00:38:50.220 I

00:38:52.680 I think I'd

00:38:53.460 get up a lot

00:38:54.060 of times

00:38:54.600 so

00:38:56.720 well

00:38:57.420 hopefully it won't

00:38:58.140 come to that

00:38:58.720 but

00:38:59.560 but I tell you

00:39:00.560 there is part of me

00:39:01.340 that

00:39:01.540 that thinks

00:39:02.220 it would be

00:39:02.600 interesting

00:39:03.120 all right

00:39:05.420 all right

00:39:06.040 so

00:39:06.280 and there was

00:39:06.840 137 of you

00:39:08.040 who thought

00:39:08.400 that one was

00:39:09.100 worth discussing

00:39:10.920 so

00:39:11.280 that's good

00:39:12.160 so

00:39:13.080 is the sole

00:39:15.380 purpose of

00:39:15.920 religious ideas

00:39:16.700 to propagate

00:39:17.340 the species

00:39:18.000 no

00:39:18.920 it's not

00:39:20.640 the sole

00:39:20.960 purpose

00:39:21.420 um

00:39:22.060 we

00:39:23.260 we discussed

00:39:23.780 that a lot

00:39:24.360 today

00:39:24.740 the sole

00:39:26.260 purpose of

00:39:26.800 religious ideas

00:39:27.660 the sole

00:39:28.820 purpose

00:39:29.260 let

00:39:29.600 let

00:39:29.820 first of all

00:39:30.800 the questioner

00:39:32.540 assumes that

00:39:33.080 there is a sole

00:39:33.740 purpose

00:39:34.160 and I don't

00:39:35.140 I don't think

00:39:35.660 that that's

00:39:36.080 accurate

00:39:36.480 so

00:39:36.800 you want to

00:39:37.720 be careful

00:39:38.100 about reducing

00:39:38.740 something complex

00:39:39.560 to a single

00:39:40.180 explanation

00:39:40.740 that's generally

00:39:41.500 the purview

00:39:42.120 of

00:39:42.540 ideologues

00:39:43.860 right

00:39:44.380 they have one

00:39:44.960 idea

00:39:45.360 and it

00:39:45.880 just covers

00:39:46.580 the world

00:39:47.100 and the world

00:39:48.360 is a little

00:39:49.140 bit too

00:39:49.520 complicated

00:39:49.920 to be covered

00:39:51.700 by

00:39:52.000 by one

00:39:53.160 idea

00:39:54.920 unfortunately

00:39:55.800 the purpose

00:39:59.540 of religious

00:40:00.020 ideas

00:40:00.540 as far as

00:40:01.060 I can tell

00:40:01.520 is to

00:40:01.860 remind us

00:40:02.580 who we

00:40:02.940 are

00:40:03.300 you know

00:40:04.920 we don't

00:40:05.580 live that

00:40:06.040 long

00:40:06.440 right

00:40:06.740 and

00:40:07.440 and we're

00:40:07.820 really

00:40:08.040 complicated

00:40:08.680 and it's

00:40:09.640 not easy

00:40:10.000 to learn

00:40:10.420 how to

00:40:10.680 be a

00:40:10.920 person

00:40:11.280 you know

00:40:12.120 I mean

00:40:12.360 it takes

00:40:12.700 you like

00:40:13.000 40 years

00:40:13.680 before you

00:40:14.240 can learn

00:40:14.580 to be

00:40:14.800 a person

00:40:15.240 enough

00:40:15.900 so that

00:40:16.280 you can

00:40:16.540 get out

00:40:16.840 of your

00:40:17.080 mother's

00:40:17.480 basement

00:40:17.860 so

00:40:18.900 it's

00:40:20.280 hard

00:40:20.640 that's

00:40:20.920 half your

00:40:21.300 life

00:40:21.620 before

00:40:21.980 well maybe

00:40:24.460 not 40

00:40:25.100 but certainly

00:40:26.500 sometimes

00:40:27.100 it takes a long

00:40:28.420 time to learn

00:40:28.980 how to be a

00:40:29.440 human being

00:40:29.940 and we're

00:40:31.320 very very

00:40:32.000 complicated

00:40:32.540 we're way

00:40:33.880 more complicated

00:40:34.700 than we can

00:40:35.280 understand

00:40:35.820 you know

00:40:36.580 and we've been

00:40:37.000 watching each

00:40:37.640 other for a

00:40:38.140 long time

00:40:38.720 watching ourselves

00:40:39.680 telling stories

00:40:40.400 about ourselves

00:40:41.120 trying to draw

00:40:42.280 some wisdom

00:40:43.000 from our

00:40:43.600 self-observations

00:40:44.880 to teach to our

00:40:46.020 children and to

00:40:46.700 our grandchildren

00:40:47.320 and so forth

00:40:48.100 and we've

00:40:48.720 codified them

00:40:49.500 in all sorts

00:40:50.240 of strange ways

00:40:51.160 in these

00:40:51.540 memorable stories

00:40:53.280 fairy tales

00:40:54.240 and myths

00:40:54.820 and religious

00:40:55.400 stories

00:40:55.860 all of those

00:40:56.420 things

00:40:56.740 and what are

00:40:59.120 they there

00:40:59.460 for

00:40:59.760 they're there

00:41:02.340 to remind us

00:41:02.980 who we are

00:41:03.540 because we

00:41:04.880 need to know

00:41:05.440 who we are

00:41:06.100 and you know

00:41:06.960 we talked about

00:41:07.580 that a little bit

00:41:08.220 tonight

00:41:08.500 I believe

00:41:09.420 the notion

00:41:10.540 that

00:41:10.900 I believe

00:41:12.460 the most

00:41:13.220 important

00:41:13.840 idea

00:41:14.800 that's ever

00:41:16.600 been generated

00:41:19.100 is

00:41:19.620 the idea

00:41:21.260 that men

00:41:22.340 and women

00:41:22.660 are made

00:41:23.020 in the

00:41:23.220 image

00:41:23.420 of God

00:41:23.880 I think

00:41:25.740 that

00:41:25.960 a culture

00:41:26.800 that doesn't

00:41:28.060 that isn't

00:41:28.800 predicated

00:41:29.720 on that

00:41:30.260 belief

00:41:30.860 knowingly

00:41:32.140 or unknowingly

00:41:32.980 and better

00:41:33.660 knowingly

00:41:34.280 is doomed

00:41:35.380 to absolute

00:41:36.960 catastrophe

00:41:37.840 because

00:41:39.500 there's no

00:41:41.780 reason to

00:41:42.420 assume

00:41:42.840 that there

00:41:43.240 isn't

00:41:43.540 something

00:41:43.820 about

00:41:44.180 us

00:41:44.520 that's

00:41:46.100 of

00:41:46.520 transcendent

00:41:47.460 value

00:41:47.960 I mean

00:41:49.240 if for

00:41:52.320 no other

00:41:52.820 reason

00:41:53.240 than the

00:41:54.020 fact of

00:41:54.500 our

00:41:54.660 consciousness

00:41:55.260 you know

00:41:55.760 like here

00:41:56.240 we are

00:41:56.580 we're aware

00:41:57.380 of what

00:41:59.060 there is

00:41:59.800 and it

00:42:01.120 isn't even

00:42:01.680 obvious

00:42:02.200 that there

00:42:02.760 could be

00:42:03.480 what there

00:42:04.100 is

00:42:04.480 if there

00:42:04.980 wasn't

00:42:05.400 something

00:42:05.900 that's

00:42:06.320 aware

00:42:06.660 of

00:42:06.860 it

00:42:07.060 and so

00:42:08.160 our

00:42:08.360 very

00:42:08.860 awareness

00:42:09.440 plays

00:42:10.360 an

00:42:10.560 integral

00:42:11.080 role

00:42:11.700 in the

00:42:12.140 fact

00:42:12.520 of

00:42:12.740 being

00:42:13.260 itself

00:42:13.960 you know

00:42:14.780 and metaphysics

00:42:15.620 aside

00:42:16.060 it's hard

00:42:16.540 to see

00:42:17.000 that anything

00:42:17.620 could be

00:42:18.080 more

00:42:18.540 vital

00:42:20.340 than that

00:42:20.840 more important

00:42:21.520 than that

00:42:22.020 and then

00:42:22.340 it isn't

00:42:22.920 only that

00:42:23.340 we

00:42:23.540 apprehend

00:42:24.560 reality

00:42:25.160 you know

00:42:25.860 and therefore

00:42:26.560 give it

00:42:27.060 shape

00:42:28.280 merely by

00:42:29.000 our

00:42:29.200 perceptions

00:42:29.680 it's

00:42:30.480 also

00:42:30.740 clearly

00:42:31.080 the

00:42:31.280 case

00:42:31.640 that

00:42:32.220 we

00:42:32.520 partake

00:42:33.320 and it's

00:42:33.800 shaping

00:42:34.220 and we

00:42:35.800 call ourselves

00:42:36.640 on that

00:42:37.180 you know

00:42:37.660 you know

00:42:38.540 that you

00:42:39.420 feel guilty

00:42:40.020 and ashamed

00:42:40.540 when you're

00:42:41.320 not doing

00:42:42.080 what you

00:42:42.600 could be

00:42:43.060 doing

00:42:43.360 when you're

00:42:43.820 not living

00:42:44.380 up to

00:42:44.680 your

00:42:44.820 potential

00:42:45.260 when you're

00:42:45.860 not making

00:42:46.700 the most

00:42:47.720 of what's

00:42:48.220 offered to

00:42:48.760 you

00:42:48.900 you understand

00:42:49.860 at a very

00:42:50.620 deep level

00:42:51.260 that you're

00:42:51.840 that you're

00:42:52.720 that you're

00:42:53.760 what would

00:42:54.980 you

00:42:55.080 you're

00:42:55.460 you're

00:42:55.720 breaking

00:42:56.220 there's no

00:42:57.080 other way

00:42:57.480 of saying

00:42:57.880 it

00:42:58.060 you're

00:42:58.540 breaking

00:42:58.980 a divine

00:42:59.780 commandment

00:43:00.740 you're

00:43:01.660 offered

00:43:02.140 this

00:43:02.540 unbelievably

00:43:03.980 rich

00:43:04.660 possibility

00:43:05.400 and it's

00:43:06.380 there for

00:43:06.820 you to

00:43:07.320 grapple

00:43:08.540 with

00:43:08.880 and

00:43:09.660 you say

00:43:10.960 well I don't

00:43:11.480 believe in

00:43:12.140 such things

00:43:12.920 in the divinity

00:43:14.120 of humanity

00:43:15.140 or in divinity

00:43:15.860 itself

00:43:16.440 or in the

00:43:17.400 divine for that

00:43:18.080 matter

00:43:18.340 but

00:43:18.540 you can't

00:43:20.220 fool yourself

00:43:21.260 with that

00:43:21.680 kind of

00:43:22.060 argumentation

00:43:22.800 it doesn't

00:43:23.520 stop you

00:43:24.160 from feeling

00:43:24.840 guilty

00:43:25.600 and ashamed 0.99

00:43:26.360 and worthless 0.92

00:43:27.100 and disappointed 0.85

00:43:28.000 and frustrated

00:43:28.860 and angry

00:43:29.640 and vengeful

00:43:31.000 at the fact

00:43:32.500 that you're

00:43:33.000 wasting your

00:43:33.700 life

00:43:34.100 and you're

00:43:34.820 noticing it

00:43:35.620 and that you're

00:43:36.440 making yourself

00:43:37.300 much less than

00:43:38.600 you could be

00:43:39.220 and that you're

00:43:39.880 making things

00:43:40.580 around you

00:43:41.440 worse for

00:43:42.500 everyone else

00:43:43.320 and

00:43:43.800 like

00:43:44.800 perhaps

00:43:46.380 there's a

00:43:47.880 psychopath or two 0.51

00:43:48.780 in the audience

00:43:49.480 who just doesn't

00:43:50.680 give a damn

00:43:51.420 and who is

00:43:52.360 focused only on

00:43:54.380 instantaneous

00:43:55.220 gratification

00:43:56.320 for their

00:43:57.280 most primordial

00:43:58.600 impulses

00:43:59.420 this

00:44:00.300 moment

00:44:01.000 right

00:44:01.780 but it's not

00:44:02.720 a sustainable

00:44:03.460 mode of being

00:44:04.340 and it's very

00:44:05.260 rare

00:44:05.680 and so

00:44:07.140 the purpose

00:44:09.300 of religious ideas

00:44:10.380 is to wake us

00:44:11.700 up

00:44:11.940 it's to remind us

00:44:15.460 who we are

00:44:16.060 right

00:44:17.540 it's to remind us

00:44:18.920 that we're

00:44:19.500 imbued with

00:44:20.440 with a spirit

00:44:22.380 that can be

00:44:23.420 best described

00:44:24.300 in some sense

00:44:25.180 as immortal

00:44:25.880 it's the spirit

00:44:27.400 that allows all

00:44:28.300 of us to be

00:44:28.840 conscious

00:44:29.260 that we all

00:44:30.220 participate in

00:44:31.200 simultaneously

00:44:31.900 that gives rise

00:44:34.120 to the world

00:44:34.780 and shapes it

00:44:35.720 and then to

00:44:38.200 alert us

00:44:40.680 to the

00:44:41.940 vital importance

00:44:43.940 of the responsibility

00:44:45.180 that goes along

00:44:46.080 with that

00:44:46.520 because I do

00:44:48.000 believe

00:44:48.480 that we shape

00:44:50.220 the world

00:44:50.680 we move it

00:44:52.560 towards heaven

00:44:53.240 or we move

00:44:54.840 it towards hell

00:44:55.600 and we do that

00:44:56.780 with every

00:44:57.400 conscious decision

00:44:58.560 we make

00:44:59.140 and

00:45:00.420 it moves

00:45:02.020 in the direction

00:45:03.100 that we determine

00:45:04.380 and so

00:45:06.620 that's what

00:45:07.160 religious stories

00:45:08.000 are there

00:45:08.420 to remind us

00:45:09.840 of

00:45:10.160 50%

00:45:14.700 of

00:45:14.920 Queensland

00:45:15.360 police

00:45:16.640 are now

00:45:17.320 required

00:45:17.740 to be

00:45:18.080 women 1.00

00:45:18.380 as a bloke

00:45:20.020 applying

00:45:20.460 how do I

00:45:20.940 speak

00:45:21.220 intelligently

00:45:21.940 and effectively

00:45:22.640 into this

00:45:23.320 situation

00:45:23.940 what percentage

00:45:27.020 of Queensland

00:45:27.740 police

00:45:28.260 are now

00:45:29.180 currently

00:45:29.680 women 1.00

00:45:30.020 is it

00:45:31.420 like

00:45:32.060 20%

00:45:33.080 or 10%

00:45:33.880 or does anybody

00:45:34.620 know

00:45:34.880 is it a low

00:45:35.360 percentage

00:45:35.860 it's what

00:45:37.300 it's five

00:45:39.020 okay

00:45:39.560 so this basically

00:45:40.380 means that

00:45:40.920 as a bloke

00:45:41.820 applying

00:45:42.300 you don't have

00:45:42.900 a hope

00:45:43.280 in hell

00:45:43.780 right

00:45:45.160 which is why

00:45:45.840 200 people

00:45:46.920 thought this was

00:45:47.580 an important question

00:45:48.420 well as far as

00:45:49.340 I'm concerned

00:45:49.880 it's like

00:45:50.400 what the hell

00:45:51.740 are you sitting 0.99

00:45:52.280 around for

00:45:52.840 it's time

00:45:53.560 for some

00:45:53.940 political action

00:45:54.760 there's no

00:45:55.900 excuse for this

00:45:56.620 whatsoever

00:45:57.140 there's no

00:45:58.560 excuse

00:45:59.100 whatsoever

00:45:59.820 for equality

00:46:00.900 for equality

00:46:07.380 of outcome

00:46:08.180 measures

00:46:08.740 they're ideological

00:46:10.800 to the core

00:46:11.540 and they're very

00:46:12.480 oddly applied

00:46:13.600 it's like

00:46:14.300 what percentage

00:46:15.080 of women

00:46:15.480 are bricklayers

00:46:16.320 I know I talked

00:46:17.040 about bricklayers

00:46:17.760 already tonight

00:46:18.400 but it's a good

00:46:19.480 example

00:46:19.920 I went on

00:46:20.960 the US

00:46:21.560 if you go

00:46:22.340 on the

00:46:24.000 statistical site

00:46:25.400 that's

00:46:25.780 operated by

00:46:26.620 the US

00:46:26.980 government

00:46:27.300 you can look

00:46:28.260 at occupations

00:46:29.520 by gender

00:46:30.240 and it's

00:46:31.320 an interesting

00:46:31.760 thing to do

00:46:32.440 here's an

00:46:33.660 interesting thing

00:46:34.400 you know

00:46:35.260 the most

00:46:35.720 common

00:46:36.260 occupation

00:46:36.940 for women

00:46:37.500 back in

00:46:38.000 the 1950s

00:46:38.940 was secretary

00:46:39.800 you know

00:46:41.160 what the most

00:46:41.520 common

00:46:41.860 occupation

00:46:42.420 for women

00:46:42.860 is now

00:46:43.400 it's secretary

00:46:45.340 they don't

00:46:47.160 call them

00:46:47.500 secretaries

00:46:48.100 now

00:46:48.360 it's usually

00:46:49.420 executive assistant

00:46:50.340 or something

00:46:50.780 like that

00:46:51.200 and that may

00:46:51.840 indicate

00:46:52.400 some

00:46:52.720 elevation

00:46:53.180 genuine

00:46:53.600 elevation

00:46:54.080 in status

00:46:54.600 but fundamentally

00:46:55.340 the most

00:46:57.080 common

00:46:57.440 occupation

00:46:57.880 hasn't changed

00:46:58.620 in

00:46:58.840 what's that

00:46:59.720 70 years

00:47:00.500 so that's

00:47:01.160 pretty

00:47:01.320 interesting

00:47:01.840 bricklayers 1.00

00:47:03.120 99.9%

00:47:05.140 of bricklayers

00:47:05.840 are men

00:47:06.340 okay

00:47:07.780 so

00:47:08.140 and

00:47:08.440 and then

00:47:09.060 it's the same

00:47:10.080 for like

00:47:10.460 heavy duty

00:47:11.540 construction

00:47:12.540 equipment

00:47:13.060 operators

00:47:13.580 and

00:47:14.020 people who are

00:47:15.700 working with

00:47:16.140 heavy machinery

00:47:16.780 tend to be men

00:47:17.840 people who are

00:47:18.520 building things

00:47:19.260 especially outside

00:47:20.600 tend to be men

00:47:21.380 overwhelmingly so

00:47:22.720 far more even

00:47:26.300 than engineers

00:47:27.000 there's a fair

00:47:27.940 number of female 0.99

00:47:28.580 engineers

00:47:29.060 it's like

00:47:29.760 what are we

00:47:30.540 going to do

00:47:30.860 here

00:47:31.120 it's like

00:47:31.580 we're going to

00:47:32.520 enforce

00:47:32.940 gender equality

00:47:34.380 of outcome

00:47:34.700 across the board

00:47:35.500 sex equality

00:47:37.300 of outcome

00:47:37.640 across the board

00:47:38.280 is that the

00:47:38.940 theory

00:47:39.200 and how are we

00:47:41.440 going to do

00:47:41.740 that

00:47:42.080 exactly

00:47:43.360 or are we

00:47:43.980 going to just 0.79

00:47:44.360 do it hit and

00:47:45.100 miss

00:47:45.300 it's like

00:47:45.620 oh well

00:47:45.960 it's policemen

00:47:46.680 this year

00:47:47.180 well how about

00:47:49.340 bricklayers 1.00

00:47:49.920 it's like

00:47:51.540 why don't we

00:47:52.080 pass a law

00:47:52.640 like tomorrow

00:47:53.240 that now

00:47:54.300 50% of bricklayers

00:47:55.960 have to be

00:47:56.480 women 1.00

00:47:56.760 it doesn't 0.88

00:47:57.900 bloody well

00:47:58.320 matter if the

00:47:58.920 women want to 1.00

00:47:59.460 be bricklayers 0.92

00:48:00.240 that's irrelevant

00:48:01.820 who says

00:48:02.520 anything about

00:48:03.100 want

00:48:03.600 it's like

00:48:04.640 the only reason

00:48:07.720 that women 0.97

00:48:08.220 don't want to

00:48:08.960 be bricklayers 0.92

00:48:09.720 is because

00:48:10.180 they've

00:48:10.580 internalized

00:48:11.620 their misogyny

00:48:12.840 right

00:48:14.000 well that

00:48:15.040 that's the

00:48:15.540 standard answer

00:48:16.560 for that

00:48:17.360 sort of

00:48:17.740 gender

00:48:18.020 inequality

00:48:18.620 and like

00:48:19.680 where is it

00:48:20.540 going to

00:48:20.800 stop

00:48:21.220 so

00:48:22.440 I think

00:48:23.760 I've thought

00:48:24.940 for a long

00:48:25.660 time

00:48:25.980 that the

00:48:26.500 left can

00:48:27.020 go too

00:48:27.460 far

00:48:27.820 and I

00:48:28.840 think that

00:48:29.860 if you don't

00:48:30.520 think that

00:48:30.920 the left

00:48:31.260 can go too

00:48:31.860 far

00:48:32.160 then

00:48:32.480 your

00:48:33.140 head 0.97

00:48:33.760 is

00:48:34.100 so far

00:48:35.000 stuck

00:48:35.420 down in

00:48:36.180 the sand

00:48:36.640 that

00:48:36.880 you're

00:48:37.560 that

00:48:38.220 I need an

00:48:40.460 ending for

00:48:40.960 that

00:48:41.240 metaphor

00:48:42.060 I was

00:48:43.680 thinking about

00:48:44.200 something far

00:48:45.380 ruder

00:48:45.800 and just

00:48:46.280 made it

00:48:46.660 polite

00:48:47.040 anyways

00:48:48.360 I guess

00:48:49.720 that's the

00:48:50.200 ending to

00:48:50.680 it

00:48:50.900 obviously

00:48:52.400 the left

00:48:53.440 can go

00:48:53.860 too far

00:48:54.500 the 20th

00:48:56.840 century is a

00:48:57.400 testament to

00:48:57.960 that

00:48:58.260 Venezuela is a

00:48:59.420 testament to

00:49:00.020 that

00:49:00.340 okay so

00:49:01.520 when does the

00:49:02.000 left go too

00:49:02.620 far

00:49:02.980 because the

00:49:03.660 left isn't

00:49:04.260 particularly

00:49:04.740 interested in

00:49:05.380 answering that

00:49:05.920 question

00:49:06.320 and I would

00:49:07.320 say the

00:49:07.720 left goes

00:49:08.300 too far

00:49:08.740 when they

00:49:09.100 insist

00:49:09.640 upon

00:49:10.420 equality

00:49:11.300 of outcome

00:49:12.060 legislation

00:49:12.800 now

00:49:14.040 equality of

00:49:14.680 opportunity is a

00:49:15.460 different thing

00:49:15.960 because I think

00:49:16.580 that if you have

00:49:17.100 any sense

00:49:17.840 imagine just

00:49:19.280 imagine that

00:49:20.080 you're just greedy

00:49:20.860 you know

00:49:21.520 and self-centered

00:49:22.300 and

00:49:23.120 and

00:49:23.780 that you want

00:49:24.900 the most

00:49:26.120 for you

00:49:26.720 so

00:49:27.240 we won't be too

00:49:28.900 optimistic about

00:49:29.620 your motivations

00:49:30.280 and I don't think

00:49:32.240 that most people

00:49:32.860 are like that

00:49:33.360 by the way

00:49:33.760 I think that

00:49:34.320 people are

00:49:35.320 by and large

00:49:36.520 pretty good at

00:49:37.400 reciprocal

00:49:37.800 interactions

00:49:38.520 and they do

00:49:39.380 like to have

00:49:40.020 you know

00:49:40.740 nice things

00:49:41.300 for themselves

00:49:41.880 but they're

00:49:42.300 often hard

00:49:42.860 on themselves

00:49:43.360 but they're

00:49:44.120 they care about

00:49:45.140 the people they

00:49:45.700 love and they

00:49:46.400 care about their

00:49:46.920 families and

00:49:47.480 they're pretty good

00:49:48.380 at reciprocal

00:49:49.440 interaction with

00:49:50.280 other people too

00:49:50.960 so I don't think

00:49:51.660 we are just

00:49:52.340 innately selfish

00:49:54.060 to the core

00:49:54.860 it doesn't work

00:49:56.400 but let's assume

00:49:57.660 you are for a

00:49:58.300 moment

00:49:58.540 well

00:49:59.580 and then let's

00:50:00.820 assume that

00:50:01.380 you know

00:50:02.460 there's a bunch

00:50:03.000 of things you

00:50:03.460 don't know how

00:50:03.880 to do

00:50:04.200 and there's some

00:50:04.960 people out there

00:50:05.580 who have some

00:50:06.220 talent that might

00:50:06.880 be able to do

00:50:07.420 them and if

00:50:07.860 they did them

00:50:08.840 then you'd get

00:50:09.580 to benefit

00:50:10.100 you know

00:50:10.700 like you don't

00:50:11.120 know how to

00:50:11.440 make an iPhone

00:50:12.120 well some of

00:50:12.840 you might

00:50:13.220 not the whole

00:50:14.040 thing

00:50:14.400 but you know

00:50:15.400 some people

00:50:15.940 know how to

00:50:16.320 make an iPhone

00:50:16.820 and you get

00:50:17.520 to have one

00:50:18.200 and so

00:50:18.940 stopping someone

00:50:20.460 who could make

00:50:21.360 an iPhone

00:50:22.000 from making

00:50:23.140 one for some

00:50:23.860 arbitrary reason

00:50:24.840 because of their

00:50:25.440 sex or their 0.97

00:50:26.300 ethnicity or their

00:50:27.580 race just seems

00:50:28.660 completely

00:50:29.560 counterproductive

00:50:30.600 and it's pretty

00:50:31.860 obvious if you

00:50:32.660 look around the

00:50:33.260 world and you

00:50:34.480 look at countries

00:50:35.520 that are developing

00:50:36.320 economically

00:50:37.100 here's one good

00:50:38.260 indicator

00:50:38.920 you know

00:50:39.500 the countries

00:50:40.280 that have

00:50:41.140 there's a very

00:50:43.560 high

00:50:44.060 there's a very

00:50:45.200 powerful relationship

00:50:46.200 between the rights

00:50:47.800 granted to women

00:50:48.960 and the economic

00:50:50.460 viability of a

00:50:51.760 given country

00:50:52.480 it's very tightly

00:50:53.980 associated

00:50:54.660 so that's quite cool

00:50:55.840 because it seems

00:50:56.580 to indicate

00:50:57.140 well maybe

00:50:58.000 openness to the

00:50:58.980 participation of

00:50:59.900 women in 0.62

00:51:00.720 traditional societies

00:51:02.140 is also an

00:51:03.000 indicator of

00:51:03.760 openness to the

00:51:04.680 new you know

00:51:05.400 to the novel

00:51:06.080 and so that's a

00:51:06.940 good predictor of

00:51:07.760 economic success

00:51:08.900 or maybe it's that

00:51:10.180 women have 50% 1.00

00:51:11.600 of the talent

00:51:12.300 and we could use 0.99

00:51:13.360 the damn talent 0.99

00:51:14.160 so how about we 0.99

00:51:15.440 invite them into

00:51:16.200 play too

00:51:16.860 that seems

00:51:17.700 perfectly reasonable

00:51:18.600 and the same goes

00:51:19.500 for as I said

00:51:20.440 for ethnicity

00:51:21.020 and for race

00:51:22.560 and so I think

00:51:23.540 you have to be 1.00

00:51:24.000 a damn fool 1.00

00:51:24.760 not to 1.00

00:51:25.460 open up the

00:51:28.440 hierarchies

00:51:29.280 to those

00:51:30.500 who are

00:51:30.880 competent

00:51:31.480 right

00:51:32.520 to the maximal

00:51:33.340 possible degree

00:51:34.240 and that it's an

00:51:34.880 error not to do

00:51:35.740 that

00:51:36.000 but to insist

00:51:37.180 that the outcome

00:51:37.840 is the same

00:51:38.580 it's like

00:51:39.360 it's so

00:51:40.620 it's

00:51:41.620 it's vile

00:51:42.980 as far as I'm

00:51:44.580 concerned

00:51:44.920 for a variety

00:51:45.640 of reasons

00:51:46.140 the first reason

00:51:47.160 is

00:51:47.420 there's no

00:51:48.500 indication

00:51:49.160 that any

00:51:49.700 attempt to do

00:51:50.360 that in the

00:51:50.800 20th century

00:51:51.480 ended up

00:51:52.140 in any other

00:51:53.520 manner than

00:51:54.180 catastrophe

00:51:54.880 so that's the

00:51:55.780 first thing

00:51:56.300 the second

00:51:56.960 thing is

00:51:57.500 think it

00:51:59.200 through

00:51:59.740 think it

00:52:01.860 through

00:52:02.320 it's like

00:52:03.800 okay

00:52:04.240 50%

00:52:07.160 of every

00:52:07.800 occupation

00:52:08.480 has to be

00:52:09.340 men and

00:52:09.980 women 1.00

00:52:10.220 okay you're

00:52:11.240 really willing

00:52:11.640 to do that

00:52:12.180 are you

00:52:12.540 and we

00:52:13.840 could start

00:52:14.200 with brick

00:52:14.620 layers

00:52:14.980 it's like

00:52:15.520 how are you

00:52:15.740 going to

00:52:15.900 do that

00:52:16.340 you're

00:52:18.680 going to

00:52:18.800 start

00:52:19.080 forcing

00:52:19.980 girls 0.98

00:52:20.540 when they're

00:52:20.900 like 13

00:52:21.540 to learn

00:52:22.780 to lay

00:52:23.120 bricks

00:52:23.480 and how

00:52:25.900 are you

00:52:26.060 going to

00:52:26.260 force them

00:52:26.720 to do

00:52:27.000 that

00:52:27.200 because

00:52:27.500 maybe

00:52:28.160 they're

00:52:28.340 not

00:52:28.520 interested

00:52:29.080 I can

00:52:29.740 tell you

00:52:30.060 something

00:52:30.300 that's

00:52:30.660 quite

00:52:30.840 interesting

00:52:31.220 about

00:52:31.620 the

00:52:33.320 STEM

00:52:33.580 fields

00:52:33.980 in

00:52:34.140 women 1.00

00:52:34.360 so

00:52:35.400 as

00:52:37.340 society

00:52:39.220 has become

00:52:39.640 more

00:52:39.860 egalitarian

00:52:40.540 so

00:52:41.320 their

00:52:42.020 equality

00:52:42.660 of

00:52:42.860 opportunity

00:52:43.300 legislation

00:52:44.080 is

00:52:44.900 more

00:52:45.640 widespread

00:52:46.200 and

00:52:46.780 arguably

00:52:47.320 more

00:52:47.660 effective

00:52:48.160 and so

00:52:49.120 that would

00:52:49.460 be in

00:52:49.880 countries

00:52:50.200 like

00:52:50.600 Australia

00:52:51.000 but

00:52:51.260 more

00:52:51.600 particularly

00:52:52.040 in

00:52:52.360 countries

00:52:52.680 like

00:52:52.960 the

00:52:53.280 Scandinavian

00:52:53.820 countries

00:52:54.260 because

00:52:54.620 they've

00:52:54.840 taken it

00:52:55.240 farther

00:52:55.480 than

00:52:55.740 anywhere

00:52:56.000 else

00:52:56.340 fewer

00:52:57.760 women 1.00

00:52:58.320 go into

00:52:58.820 the

00:52:59.020 STEM

00:52:59.260 fields

00:52:59.720 fewer

00:53:00.660 not

00:53:01.780 more

00:53:02.240 and so

00:53:03.560 if you

00:53:03.840 rank

00:53:04.220 order

00:53:04.520 countries

00:53:05.100 by

00:53:05.560 how

00:53:06.120 free

00:53:06.640 women 1.00

00:53:07.100 are

00:53:07.640 there's a

00:53:09.260 negative

00:53:09.900 relationship

00:53:10.620 with how

00:53:11.120 probable

00:53:11.600 it is

00:53:12.240 that they'll

00:53:12.600 go into

00:53:13.120 science

00:53:13.600 technology

00:53:14.280 engineering

00:53:14.760 and mathematics

00:53:15.320 fields

00:53:15.860 and

00:53:18.100 the

00:53:18.640 evidence

00:53:18.960 for that

00:53:19.260 is

00:53:19.400 very

00:53:19.720 strong

00:53:20.340 by

00:53:20.560 the

00:53:20.640 way

00:53:20.760 this

00:53:20.960 isn't

00:53:21.180 just

00:53:21.360 a few

00:53:21.640 casual

00:53:22.120 studies

00:53:22.660 these

00:53:23.180 are

00:53:23.300 large

00:53:23.740 scale

00:53:24.100 international

00:53:24.660 studies

00:53:25.080 with tens

00:53:25.580 of thousands

00:53:26.020 of participants

00:53:26.860 replicated

00:53:28.640 multiple

00:53:29.180 times

00:53:29.700 by

00:53:30.580 researchers

00:53:31.740 who

00:53:32.280 did not

00:53:33.020 expect

00:53:33.740 to find

00:53:34.400 that

00:53:34.760 nor

00:53:35.320 want

00:53:35.840 it

00:53:36.060 so

00:53:37.160 it's

00:53:37.360 reliable

00:53:37.980 okay

00:53:39.280 so

00:53:39.520 why

00:53:39.980 well

00:53:41.100 there's

00:53:41.300 a bunch

00:53:41.560 of different

00:53:41.960 theories

00:53:42.340 one

00:53:42.700 is

00:53:42.940 that

00:53:43.240 the

00:53:44.700 average

00:53:45.120 IQ

00:53:45.480 of men

00:53:45.880 and women

00:53:46.200 is the

00:53:46.640 same

00:53:46.980 and that's

00:53:48.200 quite clear

00:53:48.680 but the

00:53:49.380 male

00:53:49.760 curve

00:53:50.540 is flatter

00:53:51.260 than the

00:53:51.700 female 0.86

00:53:52.020 curve

00:53:52.360 and that's

00:53:52.780 the

00:53:52.980 what do

00:53:53.540 they call

00:53:53.860 that

00:53:54.100 the

00:53:54.360 enhanced

00:53:55.320 male

00:53:55.640 variability

00:53:56.260 hypothesis

00:53:56.920 which is

00:53:57.460 almost now

00:53:58.160 become impossible

00:53:58.940 to publish

00:53:59.520 on because

00:53:59.960 it's

00:54:00.160 politically

00:54:00.500 incorrect

00:54:00.940 and what

00:54:01.320 it suggests

00:54:01.840 is that

00:54:02.180 there are

00:54:02.480 more

00:54:03.000 men

00:54:03.320 at the

00:54:03.640 very

00:54:03.920 upper

00:54:04.340 end

00:54:04.760 of

00:54:05.020 the

00:54:05.260 intelligence

00:54:05.940 distribution

00:54:06.580 and

00:54:07.240 more

00:54:07.460 men

00:54:07.760 at

00:54:07.980 the

00:54:08.100 lower

00:54:08.700 end

00:54:09.220 and

00:54:09.680 that

00:54:09.840 explains

00:54:10.320 some

00:54:10.560 things

00:54:10.880 like

00:54:11.140 why

00:54:11.460 there

00:54:11.660 are

00:54:11.820 far

00:54:12.060 more

00:54:12.280 boys

00:54:12.620 for

00:54:12.800 example

00:54:13.140 who

00:54:13.300 have

00:54:13.420 learning

00:54:13.680 disabilities

00:54:14.260 than

00:54:14.480 there

00:54:14.600 are

00:54:14.720 girls 0.98

00:54:15.040 and

00:54:15.640 there's

00:54:15.860 some

00:54:16.020 evidence

00:54:16.360 that

00:54:16.580 men

00:54:16.780 are

00:54:16.920 more

00:54:17.140 neurologically

00:54:17.980 vulnerable

00:54:18.480 than

00:54:18.840 women 1.00

00:54:19.140 because

00:54:19.460 they're

00:54:19.680 more

00:54:19.860 specialized

00:54:20.460 neurologically

00:54:21.380 and

00:54:21.900 the

00:54:22.300 advantage

00:54:22.740 to

00:54:22.940 that

00:54:23.160 is

00:54:23.380 this

00:54:23.860 enhanced

00:54:24.320 variability

00:54:24.780 but

00:54:25.160 the

00:54:25.300 disadvantage

00:54:25.860 is

00:54:26.200 the

00:54:26.760 specialization

00:54:27.500 makes

00:54:27.800 them

00:54:27.960 less

00:54:28.180 robust

00:54:28.660 and

00:54:28.840 resilient

00:54:29.240 neurologically

00:54:29.980 be

00:54:30.860 that

00:54:31.080 as

00:54:31.200 it

00:54:31.300 may

00:54:31.520 that's

00:54:31.920 one

00:54:32.140 possibility

00:54:32.740 and

00:54:33.420 I

00:54:33.580 think

00:54:33.780 there's

00:54:33.940 a

00:54:33.980 fair

00:54:34.180 bit

00:54:34.340 of

00:54:34.460 evidence

00:54:34.780 for

00:54:34.980 that

00:54:35.200 and

00:54:35.720 it's

00:54:36.380 often

00:54:36.700 the

00:54:36.900 case

00:54:37.180 that

00:54:37.520 differences

00:54:38.540 at

00:54:38.860 the

00:54:39.040 extreme

00:54:39.500 even

00:54:39.780 if

00:54:39.940 there

00:54:40.080 aren't

00:54:40.240 differences

00:54:40.580 in

00:54:40.820 the

00:54:40.960 middle

00:54:41.180 differences

00:54:41.560 at

00:54:41.780 the

00:54:41.900 extreme

00:54:42.240 actually

00:54:42.600 make

00:54:42.840 a

00:54:42.940 big

00:54:43.100 difference

00:54:43.500 you know

00:54:44.140 because

00:54:44.360 like

00:54:44.540 let's

00:54:44.800 say

00:54:44.900 you're

00:54:45.020 going to

00:54:45.140 be

00:54:45.220 an

00:54:45.340 engineer

00:54:45.720 maybe

00:54:46.660 one

00:54:47.000 person

00:54:47.360 in

00:54:47.580 100

00:54:48.160 is

00:54:48.420 an

00:54:48.560 engineer

00:54:48.920 and

00:54:49.900 you

00:54:50.180 have

00:54:50.340 to

00:54:50.420 be

00:54:50.540 really

00:54:51.100 interested

00:54:51.820 in

00:54:52.140 gadgets

00:54:52.600 to

00:54:52.980 be

00:54:53.120 an

00:54:53.260 engineer

00:54:53.620 you

00:54:54.280 know

00:54:54.380 you

00:54:54.540 have

00:54:54.720 to

00:54:54.820 be

00:54:54.960 more

00:54:55.180 interested

00:54:55.600 than

00:54:55.960 99

00:55:04.340 people

00:55:05.120 have

00:55:05.340 criticized

00:55:05.760 the

00:55:06.340 male

00:55:06.960 variability

00:55:07.500 hypothesis

00:55:08.180 because

00:55:08.580 they've

00:55:08.880 looked

00:55:09.080 at

00:55:09.360 the

00:55:09.880 performance

00:55:10.320 of

00:55:10.640 girls 0.98

00:55:11.040 in

00:55:11.720 mathematics

00:55:12.380 in

00:55:12.760 junior

00:55:13.000 high

00:55:13.260 school

00:55:13.560 and

00:55:14.060 it

00:55:14.180 turns

00:55:14.380 out

00:55:14.580 that

00:55:14.760 girls 0.98

00:55:15.200 do

00:55:15.560 pretty

00:55:15.840 much

00:55:16.040 as

00:55:16.200 well

00:55:16.360 as

00:55:16.500 boys

00:55:16.780 do

00:55:17.060 in

00:55:17.420 mathematics

00:55:18.280 in

00:55:18.580 junior

00:55:19.420 high

00:55:19.660 at

00:55:20.060 the

00:55:20.260 upper

00:55:20.540 end

00:55:20.880 and

00:55:21.280 so

00:55:21.400 those

00:55:21.620 would

00:55:21.740 be

00:55:21.860 the

00:55:22.000 people

00:55:22.220 you'd

00:55:22.420 expect

00:55:22.700 to

00:55:22.860 go

00:55:22.980 into

00:55:23.100 the

00:55:23.280 STEM

00:55:23.520 fields

00:55:23.860 right

00:55:24.080 because

00:55:24.260 they

00:55:24.380 have

00:55:24.580 the

00:55:24.780 intellectual

00:55:26.700 ability

00:55:27.340 for

00:55:27.620 it

00:55:27.760 but

00:55:28.540 what

00:55:29.020 you

00:55:29.200 see

00:55:29.580 is

00:55:29.880 that

00:55:30.100 the

00:55:30.300 women 1.00

00:55:30.600 who

00:55:30.820 have

00:55:30.960 high

00:55:31.200 mathematical

00:55:31.780 ability

00:55:32.360 also

00:55:33.140 tend

00:55:33.640 to

00:55:33.820 have

00:55:34.100 high

00:55:34.380 verbal

00:55:34.800 ability

00:55:35.300 whereas

00:55:36.420 the

00:55:36.620 men

00:55:36.900 that

00:55:37.080 have

00:55:37.320 high

00:55:37.580 mathematical

00:55:38.140 ability

00:55:38.660 tend

00:55:38.920 to

00:55:39.060 have

00:55:39.260 less

00:55:39.720 high

00:55:40.160 verbal

00:55:40.760 ability

00:55:41.200 and

00:55:41.580 so

00:55:41.720 one

00:55:41.880 of

00:55:41.960 the

00:55:42.060 things

00:55:42.280 that

00:55:42.500 implies

00:55:42.900 is

00:55:43.160 that

00:55:43.340 the

00:55:43.500 women 1.00

00:55:43.760 who

00:55:43.920 have

00:55:44.120 high

00:55:44.360 mathematical

00:55:44.980 ability

00:55:45.480 have

00:55:46.100 more

00:55:46.740 vocational

00:55:48.460 choice

00:55:49.160 and

00:55:50.120 so

00:55:50.360 they're

00:55:50.680 statistically

00:55:51.220 less

00:55:51.560 likely

00:55:51.860 to

00:55:52.020 go

00:55:52.160 into

00:55:52.320 the

00:55:52.500 STEM

00:55:52.740 fields

00:55:53.220 so

00:55:53.820 that's

00:55:54.060 kind

00:55:54.240 of

00:55:54.300 an

00:55:54.400 interesting

00:55:54.860 no

00:55:55.140 one

00:55:55.260 expected

00:55:55.680 that

00:55:59.880 it's

00:56:00.500 also

00:56:00.780 extraordinarily

00:56:01.640 germane

00:56:02.240 there's

00:56:03.000 a variety

00:56:03.620 of ways

00:56:04.100 of

00:56:04.460 looking

00:56:05.180 at

00:56:05.440 the

00:56:05.720 psychological

00:56:06.200 differences

00:56:06.820 and similarities

00:56:07.560 between

00:56:08.000 men and

00:56:08.360 women 1.00

00:56:08.540 and the

00:56:08.840 first

00:56:09.040 thing

00:56:09.240 that

00:56:09.400 you

00:56:09.540 might

00:56:09.760 want

00:56:10.160 to

00:56:10.260 know

00:56:10.420 is

00:56:10.600 that

00:56:10.840 men

00:56:11.360 and

00:56:11.520 women 1.00

00:56:11.700 are

00:56:11.920 more

00:56:12.280 similar

00:56:12.760 than

00:56:13.020 they

00:56:13.160 are

00:56:13.360 different

00:56:13.780 on

00:56:14.080 all

00:56:14.380 the

00:56:14.580 personality

00:56:15.020 dimensions

00:56:15.520 so

00:56:16.240 the

00:56:16.620 overlap

00:56:16.980 is

00:56:17.180 quite

00:56:17.460 strong

00:56:17.960 the

00:56:18.360 biggest

00:56:18.660 differences

00:56:19.160 are

00:56:19.500 there's

00:56:19.780 five

00:56:20.120 personality

00:56:20.660 dimensions

00:56:21.220 I

00:56:21.600 mentioned

00:56:22.080 them

00:56:22.360 extroversion

00:56:23.300 neuroticism

00:56:24.100 agreeableness

00:56:26.200 conscientiousness

00:56:27.160 and

00:56:27.680 openness

00:56:28.160 the

00:56:28.960 biggest

00:56:29.280 differences

00:56:29.720 are

00:56:30.120 in

00:56:30.620 neuroticism

00:56:32.160 women 1.00

00:56:32.560 are

00:56:32.740 higher

00:56:33.080 in

00:56:33.240 negative

00:56:33.480 emotion

00:56:33.900 and

00:56:34.100 that

00:56:34.280 kicks

00:56:34.600 in

00:56:34.860 at

00:56:35.100 puberty

00:56:35.480 because

00:56:35.920 it's

00:56:36.180 not

00:56:36.320 the

00:56:36.460 case

00:56:36.620 for

00:56:36.760 boys

00:56:37.000 and

00:56:37.140 girls 0.98

00:56:37.400 and

00:56:38.840 they're

00:56:39.360 higher

00:56:39.760 in

00:56:40.000 agreeableness

00:56:40.880 which is

00:56:41.680 partly

00:56:42.020 why

00:56:42.260 there

00:56:42.420 are

00:56:42.540 far

00:56:42.760 more

00:56:42.960 men

00:56:43.180 in

00:56:43.340 prison

00:56:43.640 which

00:56:44.000 is

00:56:44.100 another

00:56:44.280 thing

00:56:44.500 we

00:56:44.620 might

00:56:44.780 think

00:56:45.020 about

00:56:45.260 is

00:56:45.440 like

00:56:45.600 what

00:56:45.760 is

00:56:46.080 that

00:56:46.280 is

00:56:46.920 that

00:56:47.080 gender

00:56:47.440 discrimination

00:56:48.400 precisely

00:56:49.320 I'm

00:56:50.340 bloody well 0.86

00:56:51.380 dead

00:56:51.640 serious

00:56:52.020 about

00:56:52.260 this

00:56:52.500 I

00:56:52.660 went

00:56:52.840 to

00:56:52.980 a

00:56:53.120 NATO

00:56:53.340 conference

00:56:53.900 25

00:56:54.300 years

00:56:54.700 ago

00:56:54.960 and

00:56:55.400 there

00:56:55.520 were

00:56:55.560 a

00:56:55.660 group

00:56:55.800 of

00:56:55.960 female 0.86

00:56:56.240 scientists

00:56:56.740 there

00:56:57.000 who

00:56:57.380 claimed

00:56:57.840 that

00:56:58.420 the

00:56:58.780 psychiatric

00:56:59.720 diagnostic

00:57:00.480 criteria

00:57:01.060 for

00:57:01.340 childhood

00:57:01.760 conduct

00:57:02.240 disorder

00:57:02.700 should

00:57:03.340 be

00:57:03.760 revamped

00:57:05.300 because

00:57:05.840 there

00:57:06.080 were

00:57:06.200 far

00:57:06.620 more

00:57:06.920 boys

00:57:07.540 diagnosed

00:57:08.340 with

00:57:08.620 childhood

00:57:09.000 conduct

00:57:09.420 disorder

00:57:09.940 than

00:57:10.340 there

00:57:10.500 were

00:57:10.660 girls 0.98

00:57:11.120 and

00:57:11.920 that's

00:57:12.260 the

00:57:12.380 precursor

00:57:12.900 by

00:57:13.060 the

00:57:13.160 way

00:57:13.300 to

00:57:13.480 adult

00:57:13.820 antisocial

00:57:14.420 personality

00:57:14.920 disorder

00:57:15.380 or

00:57:15.820 to

00:57:16.080 criminality

00:57:16.740 and

00:57:17.640 the

00:57:18.040 way

00:57:18.260 that

00:57:18.460 you

00:57:18.720 equate

00:57:19.720 it

00:57:19.960 by

00:57:20.400 sex

00:57:21.100 if

00:57:21.540 you

00:57:21.700 want

00:57:21.940 to

00:57:22.060 do

00:57:22.180 that

00:57:22.400 is

00:57:22.760 you

00:57:22.880 get

00:57:23.100 rid

00:57:23.300 of

00:57:23.420 the

00:57:23.580 violence

00:57:24.220 so

00:57:24.900 one

00:57:25.140 of

00:57:25.240 the

00:57:25.360 criteria

00:57:25.760 for

00:57:26.020 childhood

00:57:26.360 conduct

00:57:26.800 disorder

00:57:27.200 is

00:57:27.460 kicking

00:57:28.240 hitting

00:57:28.680 biting

00:57:29.120 and

00:57:29.400 stealing

00:57:29.800 like

00:57:30.160 criminal

00:57:32.120 behavior

00:57:32.680 if

00:57:33.440 you

00:57:33.540 take

00:57:33.980 that

00:57:34.260 out

00:57:34.460 of

00:57:34.580 the

00:57:34.740 diagnostic

00:57:35.260 criteria

00:57:35.880 then

00:57:36.660 you

00:57:36.780 get

00:57:36.940 the

00:57:37.080 same

00:57:37.240 number

00:57:37.500 of

00:57:37.660 boys

00:57:37.860 and

00:57:38.040 girls 0.98

00:57:38.360 and

00:57:39.320 that's

00:57:39.560 what

00:57:39.680 they

00:57:39.800 were

00:57:39.960 advocating

00:57:40.460 for

00:57:40.900 25

00:57:41.880 years

00:57:42.360 ago

00:57:42.580 and

00:57:42.720 I

00:57:42.820 thought

00:57:42.980 you

00:57:43.300 people

00:57:43.600 are

00:57:43.780 completely

00:57:44.320 out

00:57:44.680 of

00:57:44.860 your 0.99

00:57:45.020 bloody 1.00

00:57:45.360 minds

00:57:45.940 because

00:57:46.460 the

00:57:46.660 only

00:57:46.840 reason

00:57:47.160 that

00:57:47.300 we

00:57:47.420 ever

00:57:47.600 came

00:57:47.840 up

00:57:48.060 with

00:57:48.220 the

00:57:48.340 diagnosis

00:57:48.840 for

00:57:49.120 childhood

00:57:49.440 conduct

00:57:49.880 disorder

00:57:50.360 was

00:57:50.820 because

00:57:51.080 we

00:57:51.280 were

00:57:51.480 worried

00:57:51.960 that

00:57:52.460 the

00:57:52.660 violent

00:57:53.020 kids

00:57:53.460 would

00:57:53.680 become

00:57:53.980 violent

00:57:54.460 adolescents

00:57:55.020 and

00:57:55.320 that

00:57:55.460 they

00:57:55.600 would

00:57:55.760 become

00:57:56.020 violent 0.98

00:57:56.540 adults

00:57:57.260 which

00:57:57.580 is

00:57:57.700 exactly

00:57:58.100 what

00:57:58.320 happens

00:57:58.720 by

00:57:59.000 the

00:57:59.100 way

00:57:59.240 because

00:57:59.580 aggressive

00:58:01.020 behavior

00:58:01.440 is

00:58:01.600 unbelievably

00:58:02.320 stable

00:58:02.980 and

00:58:03.220 difficult

00:58:03.580 to

00:58:03.980 alter

00:58:04.400 but

00:58:05.340 they

00:58:05.480 were

00:58:05.620 perfectly

00:58:06.000 willing

00:58:06.320 to

00:58:06.560 gerrymander

00:58:07.240 the

00:58:07.440 diagnostic

00:58:07.940 criteria

00:58:08.500 so

00:58:13.300 utility

00:58:13.680 of

00:58:13.940 the

00:58:14.060 diagnosis

00:58:14.560 and

00:58:15.060 their

00:58:15.240 fundamental

00:58:16.800 claim

00:58:17.320 was

00:58:17.620 the

00:58:19.300 reason

00:58:19.600 that

00:58:19.760 there

00:58:19.880 were

00:58:19.980 more

00:58:20.140 men

00:58:20.340 in

00:58:20.500 prison

00:58:20.780 than

00:58:21.200 women 1.00

00:58:21.480 was

00:58:22.020 because

00:58:22.520 it

00:58:24.740 was a

00:58:24.940 form

00:58:25.120 of

00:58:26.280 arbitrary

00:58:26.720 prejudice

00:58:27.200 and

00:58:28.360 this

00:58:28.660 is

00:58:28.860 absolutely

00:58:29.940 insane

00:58:30.740 so 0.99

00:58:31.680 you

00:58:32.020 know

00:58:32.140 it

00:58:32.480 is

00:58:32.660 the

00:58:32.820 case

00:58:33.140 if

00:58:33.360 you

00:58:33.460 look

00:58:33.600 at

00:58:33.680 domestic

00:58:34.040 violence

00:58:34.520 statistics

00:58:34.980 by

00:58:35.200 the

00:58:35.300 way

00:58:35.420 women 1.00

00:58:35.700 hit 0.99

00:58:35.920 men 0.69

00:58:36.180 more

00:58:36.360 than

00:58:36.500 men

00:58:36.700 hit 0.99

00:58:36.860 women 1.00

00:58:37.180 just

00:58:37.660 so

00:58:37.800 you

00:58:37.940 know

00:58:38.200 it

00:58:39.660 actually

00:58:39.940 doesn't

00:58:40.300 matter

00:58:40.780 mostly

00:58:41.460 not

00:58:43.160 that

00:58:43.300 it's

00:58:43.460 pleasant

00:58:43.880 that

00:58:44.140 isn't

00:58:44.320 what

00:58:44.440 I'm

00:58:44.580 saying

00:58:44.980 is

00:58:45.180 that

00:58:45.320 men

00:58:45.560 are

00:58:45.720 a

00:58:45.820 lot

00:58:45.960 stronger

00:58:46.360 than

00:58:46.560 women 1.00

00:58:46.840 they

00:58:47.300 have

00:58:47.420 a

00:58:47.560 lot

00:58:47.800 more

00:58:48.080 powerful

00:58:48.520 upper

00:58:48.780 bodies

00:58:49.200 and

00:58:49.780 so

00:58:49.980 when

00:58:50.260 men

00:58:50.800 hit 0.99

00:58:51.040 women 1.00

00:58:51.440 the

00:58:52.020 consequences

00:58:53.580 tend

00:58:53.900 to be

00:58:54.140 very

00:58:54.420 dire

00:58:54.740 and

00:58:54.980 when

00:58:55.140 women 1.00

00:58:55.380 hit 0.99

00:58:55.600 men

00:58:55.900 well

00:58:56.140 they're

00:58:56.380 less

00:58:56.680 dire

00:58:57.000 and

00:58:57.160 I'm

00:58:57.300 not

00:58:57.540 saying

00:58:57.880 that

00:58:58.040 it's

00:58:58.240 okay

00:58:58.680 but

00:58:59.240 I

00:58:59.440 am

00:59:00.080 pointing

00:59:00.480 out

00:59:00.700 that

00:59:00.900 this

00:59:01.820 does

00:59:02.300 happen

00:59:02.660 it's

00:59:03.420 not

00:59:03.560 the

00:59:03.740 point

00:59:04.060 the

00:59:04.260 point

00:59:04.480 is

00:59:04.680 that

00:59:04.900 we're

00:59:13.160 harmony

00:59:13.400 of

00:59:13.600 society

00:59:14.020 and

00:59:14.300 generally

00:59:14.760 corrupting

00:59:15.920 the

00:59:16.580 integrity

00:59:16.960 of

00:59:17.180 the

00:59:17.320 state

00:59:17.680 and

00:59:18.020 so

00:59:18.140 we

00:59:18.260 put

00:59:18.420 them

00:59:18.540 in

00:59:18.680 prison

00:59:18.980 and

00:59:19.440 most

00:59:19.860 of

00:59:20.040 them

00:59:20.160 are

00:59:20.300 men

00:59:20.680 it's

00:59:21.940 like

00:59:22.100 10

00:59:22.480 to

00:59:22.640 15

00:59:23.060 to

00:59:23.220 1

00:59:23.440 and

00:59:23.560 it's

00:59:23.760 like

00:59:23.920 that

00:59:24.140 worldwide

00:59:24.760 okay

00:59:25.580 what

00:59:26.000 are we

00:59:26.140 going to

00:59:26.280 do

00:59:26.420 50%

00:59:28.480 are

00:59:29.360 now

00:59:29.500 going

00:59:29.640 to

00:59:29.680 be

00:59:29.800 women 1.00

00:59:30.060 so

00:59:32.460 seriously

00:59:33.540 look

00:59:33.980 if

00:59:34.180 the

00:59:34.540 theory

00:59:36.140 is

00:59:36.460 the

00:59:36.620 only

00:59:36.880 god 0.99

00:59:37.180 damn 0.98

00:59:37.420 difference 0.99

00:59:37.860 between

00:59:38.180 men

00:59:38.420 and

00:59:38.580 women 1.00

00:59:38.840 is

00:59:39.500 a

00:59:39.640 consequence

00:59:40.000 of

00:59:40.360 the

00:59:40.500 oppressive

00:59:40.880 social

00:59:41.320 structure

00:59:41.820 that

00:59:42.300 cuts

00:59:42.580 both

00:59:42.880 ways

00:59:43.300 and

00:59:44.380 what

00:59:44.520 that

00:59:44.720 means

00:59:44.960 is

00:59:45.120 that

00:59:45.260 if

00:59:45.460 85%

00:59:46.520 or

00:59:46.680 90%

00:59:47.240 of

00:59:47.360 the

00:59:47.460 people

00:59:47.700 who

00:59:47.840 are

00:59:47.940 in

00:59:48.060 prison

00:59:48.340 are

00:59:48.720 male

00:59:49.100 then

00:59:49.680 the

00:59:50.040 prison

00:59:50.260 system

00:59:50.640 is

00:59:50.860 unbelievably

00:59:51.820 prejudiced

00:59:52.600 against

00:59:53.000 men

00:59:53.440 so

00:59:54.640 we're

00:59:54.780 going to

00:59:54.940 act

00:59:55.160 on

00:59:55.340 that

00:59:55.640 and

00:59:56.280 how

00:59:56.620 that's

00:59:57.240 easy

00:59:57.520 we

00:59:58.140 lower

00:59:58.540 the

00:59:58.780 standards

00:59:59.280 of

00:59:59.480 criminal

00:59:59.780 behavior

01:00:00.200 for

01:00:00.480 women 1.00

01:00:00.780 until

01:00:01.260 we

01:00:01.540 equate

01:00:02.060 the

01:00:02.260 number

01:00:02.540 of

01:00:02.720 men

01:00:02.880 and

01:00:03.020 women 1.00

01:00:03.240 who

01:00:03.400 are

01:00:03.540 imprisoned

01:00:04.020 look

01:00:06.220 that's

01:00:06.660 what

01:00:06.800 you're

01:00:06.980 going

01:00:07.080 to

01:00:07.180 yeah

01:00:12.240 you know

01:00:12.640 you think

01:00:13.160 that's

01:00:13.480 funny

01:00:13.780 that's

01:00:14.560 what

01:00:14.660 happens

01:00:15.040 in

01:00:15.180 the

01:00:15.300 military

01:00:15.780 especially

01:00:16.780 at

01:00:17.040 the

01:00:17.180 higher

01:00:17.460 ends

01:00:17.820 you

01:00:17.980 know

01:00:18.100 in

01:00:18.380 the

01:00:18.940 operations

01:00:19.520 like

01:00:19.800 navy

01:00:20.120 seals

01:00:20.520 or

01:00:20.740 the

01:00:20.860 places

01:00:21.160 where

01:00:21.400 there's

01:00:21.620 tremendous

01:00:22.040 emphasis

01:00:22.500 on

01:00:22.800 physical

01:00:23.160 readiness

01:00:23.580 the

01:00:24.420 only

01:00:24.780 way

01:00:25.040 you

01:00:25.240 can

01:00:25.400 equate

01:00:25.740 by

01:00:25.940 gender

01:00:26.380 is

01:00:27.560 to

01:00:27.740 reduce

01:00:28.520 the

01:00:28.880 performance

01:00:29.500 criteria

01:00:30.160 that

01:00:30.500 the

01:00:30.680 women 1.00

01:00:30.860 have

01:00:31.160 to

01:00:31.340 attain

01:00:31.740 so

01:00:32.700 if

01:00:32.840 you

01:00:32.920 can

01:00:33.040 do

01:00:33.160 it

01:00:33.300 there

01:00:33.580 then

01:00:33.960 why

01:00:34.180 the 0.88

01:00:34.340 hell 0.66

01:00:34.520 can't

01:00:34.840 you

01:00:34.940 do

01:00:35.100 it

01:00:35.220 for

01:00:35.380 criminality

01:00:36.000 if

01:00:36.500 the

01:00:36.640 goal

01:00:36.880 is

01:00:37.100 equality

01:00:37.700 of

01:00:37.920 outcome

01:00:38.340 where

01:00:38.980 are

01:00:39.060 you

01:00:39.140 going

01:00:39.240 to

01:00:39.360 stop

01:00:39.800 and

01:00:40.740 that's

01:00:41.380 easy

01:00:41.660 if

01:00:42.100 the

01:00:42.280 goal

01:00:42.740 is

01:00:43.240 equality

01:00:43.840 of

01:00:44.080 outcome

01:00:44.600 you

01:00:46.340 stop

01:00:47.060 when

01:00:47.720 the

01:00:47.920 outcomes

01:00:48.440 are

01:00:48.760 equal

01:00:49.280 and

01:00:50.280 not

01:00:50.460 just

01:00:50.680 the

01:00:50.860 desirable

01:00:51.400 outcomes

01:00:51.940 you

01:00:52.120 know

01:00:52.220 you

01:00:52.360 hear

01:00:52.560 about

01:00:52.800 the

01:00:52.960 fact

01:00:53.220 that

01:00:53.460 well

01:00:53.960 if

01:00:54.240 you

01:00:54.340 look

01:00:54.460 at

01:00:54.560 the

01:00:54.700 C

01:00:54.920 suites

01:00:55.240 of

01:00:55.400 major

01:00:55.640 corporations

01:00:56.240 that

01:00:56.580 a

01:00:56.960 majority

01:00:57.320 of

01:00:57.520 the

01:00:57.660 people

01:00:57.900 are

01:00:58.080 men

01:00:58.400 it's

01:00:59.140 like

01:00:59.360 well

01:00:59.680 the

01:00:59.940 first

01:01:00.160 thing

01:01:00.340 I

01:01:00.500 think

01:01:00.700 about

01:01:00.920 that

01:01:01.160 is

01:01:01.340 well

01:01:01.640 what

01:01:01.920 the 0.99

01:01:02.040 hell 0.70

01:01:02.160 is 0.97

01:01:02.260 your

01:01:02.380 point

01:01:02.760 it's

01:01:04.100 like

01:01:04.280 that's

01:01:04.660 hardly

01:01:04.920 anyone

01:01:05.460 right

01:01:05.860 99%

01:01:07.700 of

01:01:08.040 men

01:01:08.460 99.9%

01:01:10.360 of

01:01:10.500 men

01:01:10.640 are

01:01:10.940 not

01:01:11.220 on

01:01:11.520 the

01:01:11.720 C

01:01:11.920 suites

01:01:12.380 of

01:01:12.580 large

01:01:12.880 corporations

01:01:13.540 so

01:01:14.220 we're

01:01:14.360 talking

01:01:14.600 about

01:01:14.760 a

01:01:14.860 very

01:01:15.000 tiny

01:01:15.280 proportion

01:01:15.720 of

01:01:15.880 the

01:01:15.980 population

01:01:16.460 and

01:01:16.880 they're

01:01:17.040 strange

01:01:17.460 people

01:01:17.940 right

01:01:18.880 they

01:01:19.680 are

01:01:19.920 they're

01:01:20.940 not

01:01:21.340 normal

01:01:21.840 people

01:01:22.320 and

01:01:23.300 the

01:01:23.520 reason

01:01:23.760 I

01:01:23.940 say

01:01:24.160 that

01:01:24.400 is

01:01:24.540 because

01:01:24.820 first

01:01:25.140 of

01:01:25.260 all

01:01:25.380 they're

01:01:25.540 very

01:01:25.880 intelligent

01:01:26.420 most

01:01:26.820 of

01:01:27.000 them

01:01:27.140 so

01:01:27.540 that

01:01:28.060 takes

01:01:28.960 the

01:01:29.160 first

01:01:29.440 slice

01:01:29.880 and

01:01:30.520 the

01:01:30.660 second

01:01:30.920 slice

01:01:31.280 is

01:01:31.560 all

01:01:32.580 they

01:01:33.020 do

01:01:33.420 is

01:01:33.820 work

01:01:34.260 like

01:01:35.400 80

01:01:35.620 hours

01:01:35.880 a

01:01:36.020 week

01:01:36.260 and

01:01:37.440 not

01:01:37.720 everybody

01:01:38.020 wants

01:01:38.300 to

01:01:38.460 do

01:01:38.580 that

01:01:38.800 and

01:01:38.960 why

01:01:39.440 should

01:01:39.720 they

01:01:39.960 it's

01:01:40.180 like

01:01:40.380 whoever

01:01:40.900 said

01:01:41.240 that

01:01:41.400 you

01:01:41.560 should

01:01:41.720 work

01:01:41.940 80

01:01:42.140 hours

01:01:42.400 a

01:01:42.540 week

01:01:42.780 but

01:01:43.260 if

01:01:43.400 you're

01:01:43.520 going

01:01:43.640 to

01:01:43.760 rise

01:01:44.100 to

01:01:44.280 that

01:01:44.480 level

01:01:44.800 in

01:01:44.980 any

01:01:45.180 profession

01:01:45.600 I

01:01:45.900 don't

01:01:46.060 give

01:01:46.220 a 0.96

01:01:46.320 damn 0.99

01:01:46.500 what 1.00

01:01:46.780 the

01:01:46.960 profession

01:01:47.320 is

01:01:47.660 if

01:01:48.100 you

01:01:48.220 want

01:01:48.380 to 0.50

01:01:48.440 hit

01:01:48.600 the

01:01:48.780 top

01:01:49.480 one

01:01:49.880 tenth

01:01:50.160 of

01:01:50.360 one

01:01:50.580 percent

01:01:51.020 in

01:01:51.460 your

01:01:51.620 profession

01:01:52.120 then

01:01:52.620 all

01:01:53.240 you

01:01:53.520 do

01:01:53.820 is

01:01:54.020 work

01:01:54.480 and

01:01:55.200 not

01:01:55.440 only

01:01:55.620 do

01:01:55.740 you

01:01:55.860 work

01:01:56.120 you

01:01:56.300 work

01:01:56.540 hard

01:01:56.820 and

01:01:56.940 efficiently

01:01:57.400 and

01:01:57.860 you

01:01:57.980 do

01:01:58.120 it

01:01:58.220 better

01:01:58.440 than

01:01:58.620 anyone

01:01:58.880 else

01:01:59.200 plus

01:01:59.720 you

01:01:59.920 need

01:02:00.160 the

01:02:00.300 talent

01:02:00.620 and

01:02:00.840 you

01:02:00.960 need

01:02:01.140 the

01:02:01.260 intelligence

01:02:01.700 and

01:02:02.000 you

01:02:02.120 need

01:02:02.300 the

01:02:02.460 luck

01:02:02.740 and

01:02:02.880 you

01:02:03.000 need

01:02:03.160 the

01:02:03.280 health

01:02:03.580 and

01:02:03.760 all

01:02:04.120 the

01:02:04.240 other

01:02:04.400 things

01:02:04.640 that

01:02:04.780 might

01:02:04.920 go

01:02:05.100 along

01:02:05.360 with

01:02:05.540 that

01:02:05.760 and

01:02:06.220 so

01:02:06.340 the

01:02:06.480 fact

01:02:06.740 that

01:02:06.960 a

01:02:07.380 majority

01:02:07.760 of

01:02:07.960 them

01:02:08.120 happen

01:02:08.360 to

01:02:08.500 be

01:02:08.640 men

01:02:09.000 that

01:02:10.380 that

01:02:10.580 says

01:02:11.000 nothing

01:02:11.520 about

01:02:11.840 the

01:02:12.140 structural

01:02:12.640 what

01:02:13.300 would

01:02:13.440 you

01:02:13.540 call

01:02:13.720 this

01:02:13.920 it

01:02:14.440 says

01:02:14.680 nothing

01:02:15.020 about

01:02:15.280 the

01:02:15.460 fundamental

01:02:15.900 structure

01:02:16.320 of

01:02:16.480 the

01:02:16.580 state

01:02:16.840 as

01:02:17.020 far

01:02:17.180 as

01:02:17.300 I'm

01:02:17.440 concerned

01:02:17.780 and

01:02:18.400 why

01:02:18.600 are

01:02:18.740 we

01:02:18.880 concentrating

01:02:19.420 only

01:02:19.740 on

01:02:19.920 the

01:02:20.040 upper

01:02:20.260 end

01:02:20.620 like

01:02:21.560 why

01:02:21.820 is

01:02:22.020 it

01:02:22.140 that

01:02:22.540 it's

01:02:22.720 the

01:02:22.880 CEOs

01:02:23.280 that

01:02:23.600 count

01:02:23.880 and

01:02:24.000 not

01:02:24.160 the

01:02:24.300 bricklayers 1.00

01:02:24.900 you

01:02:25.520 know

01:02:25.640 and

01:02:25.820 there's

01:02:26.420 all

01:02:26.620 sorts

01:02:26.880 of

01:02:26.980 things

01:02:27.180 we

01:02:27.340 can

01:02:27.460 talk

01:02:27.680 about

01:02:27.880 with

01:02:28.020 regards

01:02:28.340 to

01:02:28.500 that

01:02:28.740 that's

01:02:29.060 straightforward

01:02:29.440 okay

01:02:29.960 so

01:02:30.260 what's

01:02:30.480 the

01:02:30.580 difference

01:02:30.820 between

01:02:31.120 men

01:02:31.340 and

01:02:31.480 women 1.00

01:02:31.680 with

01:02:31.880 regards

01:02:32.180 to

01:02:32.340 occupation

01:02:32.900 okay

01:02:33.560 men

01:02:33.880 are

01:02:34.020 way

01:02:34.320 more

01:02:34.560 likely

01:02:34.800 to

01:02:34.980 work

01:02:35.180 outside

01:02:35.680 okay

01:02:36.440 so

01:02:36.600 now

01:02:36.780 half

01:02:37.220 the

01:02:37.360 people

01:02:37.680 who

01:02:37.720 work

01:02:37.940 outside

01:02:38.240 have

01:02:39.780 to

01:02:39.920 be

01:02:40.040 women 1.00

01:02:40.320 men

01:02:49.740 that

01:02:50.020 I

01:02:50.460 don't

01:02:50.560 know

01:02:50.680 exactly

01:02:51.060 how

01:02:51.240 we're

01:02:51.420 going

01:02:51.520 to

01:02:51.620 do

01:02:51.780 that

01:02:52.100 maybe

01:02:52.520 we

01:02:52.740 just

01:02:52.980 injure 1.00

01:02:53.380 women 1.00

01:02:53.740 randomly

01:02:54.420 till

01:02:57.100 it's

01:02:57.340 equal

01:02:57.720 or

01:02:58.920 we

01:02:59.120 force

01:02:59.460 them

01:02:59.620 to

01:02:59.780 take

01:03:00.020 the

01:03:00.220 jobs

01:03:00.720 and

01:03:01.620 I

01:03:01.880 don't

01:03:02.060 know

01:03:02.180 how

01:03:02.320 we

01:03:02.480 do

01:03:02.640 that

01:03:03.040 okay

01:03:03.780 men

01:03:04.980 are

01:03:05.140 way

01:03:05.420 more

01:03:05.660 likely

01:03:05.960 to

01:03:06.180 move

01:03:06.660 that's

01:03:07.180 another

01:03:07.380 thing

01:03:07.720 they're

01:03:08.100 also

01:03:08.360 much

01:03:08.660 more

01:03:08.860 likely

01:03:09.140 to

01:03:09.320 work

01:03:09.520 longer

01:03:09.860 hours

01:03:10.360 women 1.00

01:03:10.800 are

01:03:11.000 way

01:03:11.280 more

01:03:11.500 likely

01:03:11.740 to

01:03:11.900 work

01:03:12.100 part

01:03:12.400 time

01:03:12.740 that's

01:03:13.200 particularly

01:03:13.640 true

01:03:13.980 by

01:03:14.160 the

01:03:14.280 way

01:03:14.400 in

01:03:14.520 Scandinavia

01:03:15.160 and

01:03:15.560 the

01:03:15.660 reason

01:03:15.920 they

01:03:16.100 do

01:03:16.280 that

01:03:16.520 is

01:03:16.660 because

01:03:16.960 well

01:03:17.260 you

01:03:17.420 know

01:03:17.500 they

01:03:17.660 hit

01:03:17.820 their

01:03:18.000 30s

01:03:18.500 early

01:03:18.760 30s

01:03:19.220 usually

01:03:19.500 and

01:03:19.680 they

01:03:19.780 think

01:03:20.040 especially

01:03:21.300 often

01:03:22.000 if

01:03:22.200 they're

01:03:22.380 successful

01:03:22.920 I've

01:03:23.200 seen

01:03:23.360 this

01:03:23.520 happen

01:03:23.760 with

01:03:23.960 women 1.00

01:03:24.180 all

01:03:24.340 the

01:03:24.480 time

01:03:24.720 so

01:03:25.100 I

01:03:25.200 worked

01:03:25.440 with

01:03:25.600 women 1.00

01:03:25.860 in

01:03:26.300 law

01:03:28.000 firms

01:03:28.400 really

01:03:29.220 unbelievably

01:03:30.180 accomplished

01:03:30.740 women 1.00

01:03:31.060 because

01:03:31.520 the

01:03:31.700 firms

01:03:32.160 would

01:03:32.380 send

01:03:32.820 us

01:03:33.280 their

01:03:33.800 best

01:03:34.260 performers

01:03:34.900 and

01:03:35.440 our

01:03:35.640 job

01:03:35.960 was

01:03:36.140 to

01:03:36.280 see

01:03:36.440 if

01:03:36.560 we

01:03:36.700 could

01:03:36.900 make

01:03:37.380 them

01:03:37.540 a

01:03:37.640 little

01:03:37.780 bit

01:03:37.940 more

01:03:38.140 productive

01:03:38.560 because

01:03:39.020 if

01:03:39.620 they

01:03:39.760 were

01:03:39.900 high

01:03:40.160 performers

01:03:40.640 and

01:03:40.860 they

01:03:41.020 were

01:03:41.160 even

01:03:41.360 5%

01:03:42.060 more

01:03:42.260 productive

01:03:42.660 it

01:03:42.800 was

01:03:42.920 unbelievably

01:03:43.620 valuable

01:03:44.440 for the

01:03:44.840 company

01:03:45.160 and

01:03:46.220 so

01:03:46.360 all

01:03:46.620 the

01:03:46.780 law

01:03:47.020 firms

01:03:47.760 they

01:03:47.940 just

01:03:48.140 lose

01:03:48.380 all

01:03:48.760 their

01:03:48.980 women 1.00

01:03:49.280 in

01:03:49.740 their

01:03:49.880 30s

01:03:51.020 and

01:03:51.480 it

01:03:51.580 happens

01:03:51.900 everywhere

01:03:52.300 and

01:03:52.840 the

01:03:52.960 reason

01:03:53.240 it

01:03:53.420 happens

01:03:53.760 is

01:03:53.940 very

01:03:54.160 straightforward

01:03:54.660 and

01:03:54.880 all

01:03:55.100 the

01:03:55.280 female 0.86

01:03:55.600 lawyers

01:03:55.960 know

01:03:56.220 this

01:03:56.500 they

01:03:56.860 won't

01:03:57.080 talk

01:03:57.640 about

01:03:57.880 it

01:03:58.020 publicly

01:03:58.440 but

01:03:58.880 they

01:03:59.000 all

01:03:59.180 know

01:03:59.420 it

01:03:59.600 they

01:04:01.900 did

01:04:02.060 very

01:04:02.260 well

01:04:02.460 in

01:04:02.560 high

01:04:02.740 school

01:04:03.040 then

01:04:04.020 they

01:04:04.140 did

01:04:04.300 very

01:04:04.480 well

01:04:04.680 in

01:04:04.780 university

01:04:05.280 then

01:04:05.980 they

01:04:06.120 did

01:04:06.260 very

01:04:06.480 well

01:04:06.680 in

01:04:06.820 law

01:04:07.040 school

01:04:07.300 then

01:04:07.700 they

01:04:07.820 went

01:04:07.960 and

01:04:08.060 article

01:04:08.300 and

01:04:08.520 they

01:04:08.640 did

01:04:08.800 extremely

01:04:09.320 well

01:04:09.700 as

01:04:09.960 articles

01:04:10.480 as

01:04:11.320 articling

01:04:11.680 students

01:04:12.060 then

01:04:12.660 they

01:04:12.800 got

01:04:13.000 hired

01:04:13.440 as

01:04:13.600 associates

01:04:14.080 and

01:04:14.260 did

01:04:14.400 very

01:04:14.620 well

01:04:14.880 and

01:04:15.160 then

01:04:15.280 they

01:04:15.380 made

01:04:15.580 partner

01:04:16.000 and

01:04:16.440 it

01:04:16.520 was

01:04:16.600 just

01:04:16.760 like

01:04:16.920 linear

01:04:17.280 progression

01:04:17.840 and

01:04:18.700 there

01:04:18.900 wasn't

01:04:19.080 a lot

01:04:19.260 of

01:04:19.380 questioning

01:04:19.860 that

01:04:20.080 went

01:04:20.260 along

01:04:20.500 with

01:04:20.660 it

01:04:20.760 because

01:04:21.000 most

01:04:21.360 of

01:04:21.520 the

01:04:21.640 people

01:04:21.900 who

01:04:22.040 do

01:04:22.180 that

01:04:22.380 are

01:04:32.740 success

01:04:33.140 in

01:04:33.700 law

01:04:34.020 after

01:04:34.720 intelligence

01:04:35.380 and

01:04:35.820 so

01:04:35.980 you

01:04:36.120 have

01:04:36.260 to

01:04:36.360 be

01:04:36.440 a

01:04:36.560 conscientious

01:04:37.060 person

01:04:37.420 detail

01:04:37.840 oriented

01:04:38.280 and

01:04:38.520 so

01:04:38.700 if

01:04:39.060 you

01:04:39.180 happen

01:04:39.400 to

01:04:39.500 be

01:04:39.600 a

01:04:39.720 woman 0.99

01:04:39.920 like

01:04:40.180 that

01:04:40.440 extraordinarily

01:04:41.140 hardworking

01:04:41.920 very

01:04:42.240 very

01:04:42.500 bright

01:04:42.820 you

01:04:43.260 just

01:04:43.460 make

01:04:43.660 a

01:04:43.780 beeline

01:04:44.320 to

01:04:44.500 partnership

01:04:45.060 but

01:04:45.940 then

01:04:46.080 you're

01:04:46.220 30

01:04:46.600 and

01:04:48.680 that's

01:04:48.880 a

01:04:48.960 problem

01:04:49.360 and

01:04:50.660 it's

01:04:50.880 a

01:04:50.980 problem

01:04:51.180 for

01:04:51.340 a

01:04:51.440 bunch

01:04:51.600 of

01:04:51.720 reasons

01:04:52.040 the

01:04:52.220 first

01:04:52.480 is

01:04:52.760 you

01:04:54.880 hit

01:04:55.140 the

01:04:55.360 target

01:04:55.680 and

01:04:55.960 now

01:04:56.140 you're

01:04:56.360 surrounded

01:04:56.680 by

01:04:57.000 these

01:04:57.360 guys

01:04:57.720 and

01:04:58.180 women 1.00

01:04:58.460 who

01:04:59.260 are

01:04:59.800 partners

01:05:00.600 and

01:05:00.840 you

01:05:00.980 thought

01:05:01.220 that

01:05:01.400 was

01:05:01.520 a

01:05:01.620 hell

01:05:01.740 of

01:05:01.840 a

01:05:01.940 fine

01:05:02.160 place

01:05:02.480 to

01:05:02.640 be

01:05:02.840 but

01:05:03.220 when

01:05:03.340 you

01:05:03.460 get

01:05:03.620 there

01:05:03.820 you

01:05:03.960 find

01:05:04.240 out

01:05:04.440 that

01:05:04.680 it's

01:05:05.700 rough

01:05:06.120 it's

01:05:07.080 aggressive

01:05:07.540 it's

01:05:07.860 competitive

01:05:08.340 it can

01:05:08.920 be

01:05:09.060 nasty 0.99

01:05:09.500 and 0.97

01:05:10.340 most

01:05:11.020 of

01:05:11.200 the

01:05:11.320 people

01:05:11.520 who

01:05:11.640 are

01:05:11.740 doing

01:05:11.960 it

01:05:12.120 are

01:05:12.440 not

01:05:12.780 happy

01:05:13.260 it's

01:05:13.740 hard

01:05:14.040 work

01:05:14.340 I've

01:05:14.600 met

01:05:14.780 lawyers

01:05:15.180 who

01:05:15.360 like

01:05:15.600 what

01:05:15.760 they're

01:05:15.880 doing

01:05:16.060 but

01:05:16.240 they're

01:05:16.500 rare

01:05:16.820 it's

01:05:17.440 very

01:05:17.780 competitive

01:05:18.240 and

01:05:18.600 it's

01:05:18.780 very

01:05:19.140 harsh

01:05:19.520 and

01:05:20.320 you're

01:05:20.980 going

01:05:21.100 to

01:05:21.200 work

01:05:21.460 man

01:05:21.820 if

01:05:22.340 you're

01:05:22.520 paying

01:05:22.740 $750

01:05:24.160 an

01:05:24.800 hour

01:05:25.060 you're

01:05:26.140 working

01:05:26.420 whenever

01:05:27.600 there's

01:05:27.900 work

01:05:28.120 to

01:05:28.280 do

01:05:28.440 no

01:05:28.740 matter

01:05:28.920 what

01:05:29.200 else

01:05:29.420 you

01:05:29.540 have

01:05:29.760 to

01:05:29.900 do

01:05:30.120 and

01:05:30.800 you

01:05:30.920 know

01:05:31.000 you

01:05:31.140 might

01:05:31.340 be

01:05:32.180 making

01:05:32.540 $350,000

01:05:34.600 $400,000

01:05:35.380 a year

01:05:35.960 and that's

01:05:36.440 good

01:05:36.600 but

01:05:36.880 you're

01:05:37.020 probably

01:05:37.260 married

01:05:37.580 to

01:05:37.780 someone

01:05:38.020 who's

01:05:38.240 making

01:05:38.540 approximately

01:05:39.100 the same

01:05:39.580 amount

01:05:39.840 of

01:05:39.960 money

01:05:40.180 so

01:05:40.640 you

01:05:40.780 actually

01:05:41.060 don't

01:05:41.300 need

01:05:41.540 that

01:05:41.760 much

01:05:42.000 money

01:05:42.300 and

01:05:42.640 you

01:05:42.760 certainly

01:05:43.020 don't

01:05:43.280 need

01:05:43.480 more

01:05:43.820 you

01:05:44.260 might

01:05:44.420 want

01:05:44.680 it

01:05:50.980 the

01:05:51.100 right

01:05:51.280 mind

01:05:51.500 do

01:05:51.700 this

01:05:52.080 which

01:05:53.800 is

01:05:53.940 the

01:05:54.100 right

01:05:54.300 question

01:05:54.740 by

01:05:54.940 the

01:05:55.060 way

01:05:55.180 to

01:05:55.300 ask

01:05:55.600 about

01:05:55.800 the

01:05:55.960 people

01:05:56.160 who

01:05:56.320 sit

01:05:56.560 in

01:05:57.220 the

01:05:57.360 C-suites

01:05:58.020 in

01:05:58.640 major

01:05:58.880 corporations

01:05:59.460 it's

01:06:00.440 like

01:06:00.660 they're

01:06:01.660 working

01:06:01.900 70-80

01:06:02.560 hours a

01:06:03.140 week

01:06:03.360 for

01:06:03.580 30

01:06:04.000 or

01:06:04.120 40

01:06:04.340 years

01:06:04.720 you

01:06:05.140 know

01:06:05.260 that

01:06:05.440 often

01:06:05.920 they

01:06:06.140 sacrifice

01:06:06.640 their

01:06:06.820 families

01:06:07.180 for

01:06:07.400 it

01:06:07.500 and

01:06:07.580 everything

01:06:07.840 else

01:06:08.260 and

01:06:08.680 they're

01:06:08.940 a

01:06:09.240 particular

01:06:09.560 kind

01:06:09.880 of

01:06:10.000 person

01:06:10.280 who

01:06:10.420 does

01:06:10.640 that

01:06:10.880 usually

01:06:11.200 hyper

01:06:11.520 conscientious

01:06:12.280 but

01:06:12.760 like

01:06:13.000 the

01:06:13.420 question

01:06:13.880 why

01:06:14.400 you

01:06:14.600 would

01:06:14.760 do

01:06:14.960 that

01:06:15.240 is

01:06:15.520 a

01:06:15.660 really

01:06:15.840 good

01:06:16.060 question

01:06:16.560 how

01:06:17.400 about

01:06:17.680 you

01:06:17.860 have

01:06:18.080 a

01:06:18.200 life

01:06:18.600 how

01:06:19.780 about

01:06:20.040 you

01:06:20.280 have

01:06:20.880 a

01:06:21.020 partner

01:06:21.380 that

01:06:21.880 you

01:06:22.020 see

01:06:22.300 sometime

01:06:22.800 how

01:06:23.140 about

01:06:23.300 you

01:06:23.420 have

01:06:23.580 some

01:06:23.780 children

01:06:24.200 that

01:06:24.620 you

01:06:24.780 actually

01:06:25.300 get

01:06:25.600 to

01:06:25.800 see

01:06:26.160 and

01:06:26.400 take

01:06:26.640 care

01:06:26.900 of

01:06:27.160 and

01:06:27.900 so

01:06:28.040 then

01:06:28.200 you

01:06:28.320 think

01:06:28.520 well

01:06:28.680 maybe

01:06:28.900 I

01:06:29.060 don't

01:06:29.220 need

01:06:29.380 to

01:06:29.500 work

01:06:29.700 80

01:06:29.920 hours

01:06:30.200 a

01:06:30.340 week

01:06:30.520 to

01:06:30.720 continue

01:06:31.060 my

01:06:31.360 rise

01:06:31.720 through

01:06:31.940 the

01:06:32.220 upper

01:06:33.020 stratosphere

01:06:33.620 of the

01:06:34.420 law

01:06:34.560 profession

01:06:35.060 I'll

01:06:35.680 pull

01:06:36.300 back

01:06:36.700 I'll

01:06:37.040 find

01:06:37.280 an

01:06:37.420 8

01:06:37.560 hour

01:06:37.760 a

01:06:37.920 day

01:06:38.080 job

01:06:38.480 or

01:06:38.860 a

01:06:39.280 part

01:06:39.500 time

01:06:39.740 job

01:06:40.100 and

01:06:40.700 I'll

01:06:40.800 have

01:06:40.920 a

01:06:41.040 family

01:06:41.400 well

01:06:42.420 that's

01:06:42.680 what's

01:06:42.860 happening

01:06:43.160 in

01:06:43.320 Scandinavia

01:06:44.060 is

01:06:44.600 like

01:06:44.780 is

01:06:44.940 that

01:06:45.080 okay

01:06:45.480 or

01:06:46.740 not

01:06:47.080 and

01:06:48.040 if

01:06:48.120 it's

01:06:48.260 not

01:06:48.440 okay

01:06:48.700 what

01:06:48.880 are

01:06:48.960 we

01:06:49.040 going

01:06:49.160 to

01:06:49.220 do

01:06:49.360 we're

01:06:49.520 going

01:06:49.640 to

01:06:49.680 enforce

01:06:50.060 gender

01:06:50.920 equality

01:06:51.380 there

01:06:51.600 too

01:06:51.860 are

01:06:52.040 we

01:06:52.220 you

01:06:53.320 know

01:06:53.420 they've

01:06:53.740 enforced

01:06:54.080 gender

01:06:54.380 equality

01:06:54.900 at

01:06:55.520 the

01:06:55.960 board

01:06:56.720 level

01:06:57.480 in

01:06:58.120 the

01:06:58.260 Scandinavian

01:06:58.860 countries

01:06:59.300 it

01:06:59.960 hasn't

01:07:00.140 made

01:07:00.260 a 1.00

01:07:00.380 goddamn 1.00

01:07:00.860 bit 1.00

01:07:01.080 of

01:07:07.280 problem

01:07:07.720 it

01:07:08.780 wasn't

01:07:09.100 systemic

01:07:09.920 oppression

01:07:10.620 there's

01:07:11.860 a

01:07:12.000 multitude

01:07:12.340 of

01:07:12.640 reasons

01:07:12.940 that

01:07:13.180 men

01:07:13.360 and

01:07:13.500 women 1.00

01:07:13.720 take

01:07:14.400 different

01:07:14.860 pathways

01:07:15.940 in

01:07:16.520 their

01:07:16.660 careers

01:07:17.020 and

01:07:17.240 they're

01:07:17.380 becoming

01:07:17.680 more

01:07:17.960 evident

01:07:18.240 another

01:07:18.580 one

01:07:18.860 is

01:07:19.040 that

01:07:19.260 women 1.00

01:07:20.240 so

01:07:21.260 women 1.00

01:07:21.840 are

01:07:22.480 different

01:07:22.900 higher

01:07:23.780 in

01:07:24.000 negative

01:07:24.300 emotion

01:07:24.680 higher

01:07:25.020 in

01:07:25.140 agreeableness

01:07:25.660 about

01:07:25.960 the

01:07:26.120 same

01:07:26.280 in

01:07:26.440 conscientiousness

01:07:27.340 openness

01:07:28.500 and

01:07:29.040 extroversion

01:07:29.660 there's

01:07:30.140 some

01:07:30.300 differences

01:07:30.680 but

01:07:30.920 they're

01:07:31.100 relatively

01:07:31.460 minor

01:07:31.820 pretty

01:07:32.260 much

01:07:32.460 the

01:07:32.640 same

01:07:32.820 in

01:07:32.980 terms

01:07:33.400 of

01:07:33.520 intelligence

01:07:34.040 doesn't

01:07:34.560 look

01:07:34.720 like

01:07:34.900 it's

01:07:35.060 an

01:07:35.160 ability

01:07:35.520 issue

01:07:35.860 for

01:07:36.100 most

01:07:36.960 professions

01:07:37.940 with

01:07:38.480 the

01:07:38.640 exception

01:07:39.020 of

01:07:39.260 the

01:07:39.500 extended

01:07:40.280 male

01:07:40.600 variability

01:07:41.160 hypothesis

01:07:41.840 that

01:07:42.360 might

01:07:42.540 have

01:07:42.740 to

01:07:42.860 do

01:07:42.960 with

01:07:43.120 upper

01:07:43.500 level

01:07:43.800 mathematical

01:07:44.340 genius

01:07:44.800 but

01:07:45.020 we

01:07:45.160 can

01:07:45.280 leave

01:07:45.440 that

01:07:45.600 aside

01:07:45.940 because

01:07:46.360 it's

01:07:46.560 debatable

01:07:46.960 there

01:07:48.300 is

01:07:48.480 another

01:07:48.980 difference

01:07:49.440 between

01:07:49.740 men

01:07:49.940 and

01:07:50.060 women 1.00

01:07:50.240 and

01:07:50.420 this

01:07:50.560 is

01:07:50.660 the

01:07:50.780 biggest

01:07:51.020 difference

01:07:51.420 that

01:07:51.660 psychologists

01:07:52.140 have

01:07:52.380 discovered

01:07:53.040 and

01:07:53.520 that's

01:07:53.820 of

01:07:54.000 interest

01:07:54.620 men

01:07:55.900 are

01:07:56.100 more

01:07:56.420 interested

01:07:56.880 in

01:07:57.100 things

01:07:57.820 on

01:07:58.320 average

01:07:58.800 and

01:07:59.720 women 1.00

01:07:59.980 are

01:08:00.140 more

01:08:00.320 interested

01:08:00.640 in

01:08:00.920 people

01:08:01.420 on

01:08:02.120 average

01:08:02.680 and

01:08:05.160 standard

01:08:05.380 deviation

01:08:05.920 which

01:08:06.240 means

01:08:06.560 that

01:08:06.920 it's

01:08:07.480 a little

01:08:07.640 more

01:08:07.840 than

01:08:07.960 that

01:08:08.160 which

01:08:08.540 means

01:08:08.820 that

01:08:09.060 if

01:08:10.040 you

01:08:10.160 were

01:08:10.320 a

01:08:10.460 man

01:08:10.820 as

01:08:12.100 interested

01:08:12.680 in

01:08:13.180 people

01:08:14.040 as

01:08:14.560 the

01:08:14.740 typical

01:08:15.100 woman 0.99

01:08:15.540 is

01:08:16.020 interested

01:08:16.500 in

01:08:16.740 people

01:08:17.100 you

01:08:17.620 would

01:08:17.780 have

01:08:18.880 to be

01:08:19.160 more

01:08:19.440 interested

01:08:19.840 in

01:08:20.080 people

01:08:20.360 than

01:08:20.600 85%

01:08:21.660 of

01:08:21.980 men

01:08:22.340 and

01:08:23.120 if

01:08:23.280 you

01:08:23.420 were

01:08:23.540 a

01:08:23.700 woman 0.99

01:08:24.000 who

01:08:24.540 is

01:08:24.700 interested

01:08:25.440 in

01:08:25.880 things

01:08:26.540 as

01:08:26.900 the

01:08:27.140 average

01:08:27.680 man

01:08:28.100 is

01:08:28.440 interested

01:08:28.960 in

01:08:29.200 things

01:08:29.520 you

01:08:29.680 would

01:08:29.760 have

01:08:29.920 to

01:08:30.040 be

01:08:30.180 more

01:08:30.420 interested

01:08:30.760 in

01:08:30.980 things

01:08:31.260 than

01:08:31.460 85%

01:08:32.460 of

01:08:32.760 women 1.00

01:08:33.040 so

01:08:33.620 it's

01:08:33.740 actually

01:08:33.980 quite

01:08:34.220 a

01:08:34.340 big

01:08:34.480 difference

01:08:34.960 and

01:08:35.400 so

01:08:35.620 thing

01:08:36.200 interest

01:08:36.920 is

01:08:37.360 a

01:08:37.500 big

01:08:37.660 determination

01:08:38.160 of

01:08:38.880 interest

01:08:39.640 in

01:08:39.840 the

01:08:39.980 STEM

01:08:40.200 fields

01:08:40.620 and

01:08:41.000 women 1.00

01:08:41.220 just

01:08:41.500 aren't

01:08:41.860 that

01:08:42.240 interested

01:08:42.840 in

01:08:43.260 things

01:08:43.820 now

01:08:44.080 some

01:08:44.380 of

01:08:44.520 them

01:08:44.640 are

01:08:44.860 and

01:08:45.000 they

01:08:45.220 go

01:08:45.380 into

01:08:45.540 the

01:08:45.720 STEM

01:08:45.960 fields

01:08:46.260 but

01:08:46.440 most

01:08:46.700 of

01:08:46.860 them

01:08:46.980 aren't

01:08:47.320 so

01:08:47.840 what

01:08:48.440 are

01:08:48.520 you

01:08:48.560 going

01:08:48.660 to

01:08:48.700 do

01:08:48.820 about

01:08:49.060 that

01:08:49.500 so

01:08:50.920 you

01:08:51.180 know

01:08:51.260 one

01:08:51.460 of

01:08:51.560 the

01:08:51.660 things

01:08:51.880 they're

01:08:52.080 trying

01:08:52.300 to

01:08:52.420 do

01:08:52.580 in

01:08:52.740 the

01:08:52.860 Scandinavian

01:08:54.640 countries

01:08:55.060 is

01:08:55.240 they're

01:08:55.720 going

01:08:55.860 to

01:08:55.980 really

01:08:56.320 start

01:08:56.820 to

01:08:57.060 socialize

01:08:57.920 boys

01:08:58.300 and

01:08:58.540 girls 0.98

01:08:58.840 different

01:08:59.400 in

01:09:00.000 preschool

01:09:00.680 okay

01:09:01.940 so

01:09:02.100 that's

01:09:02.380 good

01:09:02.540 so

01:09:02.700 that's

01:09:02.920 what

01:09:03.040 you're

01:09:03.200 going

01:09:03.300 to

01:09:03.380 allow

01:09:03.720 is

01:09:03.920 it

01:09:04.040 this

01:09:04.220 is

01:09:04.540 the

01:09:04.680 idea

01:09:05.020 you're

01:09:05.560 going

01:09:05.660 to

01:09:05.800 discount

01:09:06.440 the

01:09:06.800 notion

01:09:07.220 entirely

01:09:08.200 that

01:09:09.120 there

01:09:09.280 might

01:09:09.540 actually

01:09:10.100 be

01:09:10.360 differences

01:09:10.800 between

01:09:11.240 men

01:09:11.500 and

01:09:11.660 women 1.00

01:09:11.900 even

01:09:12.520 though

01:09:12.700 that

01:09:12.880 wouldn't

01:09:13.160 necessarily

01:09:13.660 be

01:09:13.900 a

01:09:14.020 bad

01:09:14.200 thing

01:09:14.420 but

01:09:14.560 we're

01:09:14.700 going

01:09:14.800 to

01:09:14.940 discount

01:09:15.500 that

01:09:15.940 and

01:09:16.540 we're

01:09:16.700 going

01:09:16.800 to

01:09:16.880 assume

01:09:17.100 that

01:09:17.300 all

01:09:17.820 the

01:09:25.060 the

01:09:25.300 state

01:09:25.900 so

01:09:26.600 that

01:09:26.740 they're

01:09:26.900 going

01:09:27.060 to

01:09:27.240 transform

01:09:27.840 the

01:09:28.220 way

01:09:28.440 that

01:09:28.660 our

01:09:28.880 children

01:09:29.220 are

01:09:29.700 treated

01:09:30.740 when

01:09:31.280 they're

01:09:31.480 three

01:09:31.920 and

01:09:32.180 four

01:09:32.520 by

01:09:33.240 teachers

01:09:34.000 by

01:09:34.540 preschool

01:09:35.020 teachers

01:09:35.580 and

01:09:36.120 we're

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01:09:37.300 the

01:09:37.520 entire

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01:09:39.080 on

01:09:39.320 that

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01:09:41.380 the

01:09:41.600 solution

01:09:42.140 well

01:09:43.640 if

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01:09:44.100 think

01:09:44.340 that

01:09:44.500 that's

01:09:44.800 a

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01:09:45.560 solution

01:09:46.080 then

01:09:46.740 you

01:09:47.180 are

01:09:47.360 not

01:09:47.760 thinking

01:09:48.320 and

01:10:00.580 this is

01:10:01.180 the

01:10:01.320 last

01:10:01.620 one

01:10:01.900 I'll

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01:10:02.900 a little

01:10:03.520 ornery

01:10:04.000 about

01:10:04.220 these

01:10:04.460 questions

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01:10:05.260 apparently

01:10:06.000 what

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01:10:06.480 you

01:10:06.580 think

01:10:06.780 of

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01:10:07.740 teaching

01:10:08.140 gender

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01:10:09.120 concepts

01:10:09.600 to

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01:10:10.500 children

01:10:10.860 this

01:10:11.220 is

01:10:11.360 what

01:10:11.540 I

01:10:11.700 think

01:10:11.980 I

01:10:12.400 think

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01:10:12.900 your 1.00

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - March 08, 2020

Our Emotions and the Social Hierarchy – Part Two

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