The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - Wim Hof with Jordan and Mikhaila Peterson

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00:00:51.040 Welcome to Season 3, Episode 35 of the Jordan B. Peterson Podcast.

00:00:58.780 I'm Mikayla Peterson, Jordan's daughter.

00:01:01.340 This is an interview podcast filmed recently, November 2020, with Wim Hof.

00:01:07.060 The video version of the podcast is available on my YouTube channel at Mikayla Peterson Videos,

00:01:12.540 or you can just type in Wim Hof Jordan Peterson and that'll bring you right to the episode.

00:01:16.320 I had Wim Hof on my podcast and Dad co-hosting, but like usual, as in one other episode,

00:01:23.560 I let him do most of the talking, so we're putting it up on both podcasts.

00:01:27.600 I think this will be the format from now on for interview podcasts that are from my podcast.

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00:01:37.320 Wim Hof is absolutely incredible.

00:01:39.700 He's also known as the Iceman, but I'll leave his intro that Dad does in the actual episode.

00:01:44.840 A heads up, Dad mentions in the episode that he hasn't been feeling well,

00:01:49.460 and I'm happy to tell you that he's feeling much better since this was filmed, so don't worry.

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00:05:23.560 And without further ado, welcome to the Wim Hof interview.

00:05:26.600 All right.

00:05:43.760 Hi, everybody.

00:05:46.200 I'm Dr. Jordan B. Peterson.

00:05:48.580 And I'm Michaela Peterson.

00:05:50.280 And we have the great privilege today of speaking with who must be one of the world's most remarkable men,

00:05:58.520 someone whose work I've followed for years in astonishment, I would say.

00:06:03.940 He doesn't seem real.

00:06:06.080 And if you meet him, we've only met him briefly, he also doesn't seem real then as well.

00:06:10.860 He's performed many remarkable feats that I would say would have been regarded as impossible before he did them.

00:06:20.680 And so we're going to talk to him today about what those feats are and how he thinks he manages it.

00:06:26.820 So you want to take it away, Michaela?

00:06:29.860 Sure.

00:06:31.620 So you have your method, your Wim Hof breathing method.

00:06:37.220 You talk a lot about cold therapy and meditation.

00:06:41.540 And you've done things like injected, had endotoxin injected into you,

00:06:46.720 and you haven't had a noticeable immune response.

00:06:50.680 So could we maybe start with, how did you get started with, say, the cold therapy that you teach?

00:06:59.800 Yeah.

00:07:00.060 And what have you done?

00:07:01.420 I mean, to give the viewers and listeners some sense of your accomplishments.

00:07:07.540 That way they can put your method into context by knowing what it's allowed you to do.

00:07:13.120 I know you've run marathons in the Arctic and swam under the Arctic ice,

00:07:18.540 but I'd like to let you discuss that.

00:07:21.520 Yes.

00:07:24.500 For a long time I was a seeker.

00:07:27.560 But any seeker becomes a finder.

00:07:32.160 I became a finder of a way wherein I could feel, connect, deeper.

00:07:41.380 I was looking through philosophies and debating into what it is to feel deeper,

00:07:48.940 to have a deeper understanding of myself.

00:07:50.920 And that, deeper understanding, that came not through debating and philosophizing,

00:08:00.640 but it came like in a moment, in an instant, by going after I was attracted to go into cold water.

00:08:09.640 I was not sure why.

00:08:12.420 It was a gut feeling.

00:08:14.360 A seeker became a finder there.

00:08:16.660 I went into the cold water.

00:08:19.120 And instantly, that brought me in a deeper physiological depth of myself.

00:08:25.940 And it was like, this is it.

00:08:29.520 Feeling.

00:08:30.940 Okay.

00:08:31.500 So, first of all, how old were you when that happened?

00:08:34.700 And second, do you have any sense of what attracted you to the cold water?

00:08:41.380 This is a gut feeling.

00:08:42.780 A gut feeling got me to the cold water.

00:08:45.080 After debating for years and philosophizing and trying out all kinds of stuff,

00:08:51.280 then at a certain moment, the gut takes over.

00:08:56.340 It's there.

00:08:57.000 And your gut tells what to do.

00:09:01.380 But we mostly follow the thoughts and what we think of things instead of following what we feel deeply inside.

00:09:11.940 We get disconnected therefrom, alienated therefrom.

00:09:16.700 But I followed that gut feeling.

00:09:18.680 I went in, and that is 44 years ago.

00:09:23.360 And since then, I every day went into the cold.

00:09:28.640 In all the winters.

00:09:31.260 You know, in Minneapolis and up there in the U.S., it's also cold in the wintertime.

00:09:38.440 I went every day outside swimming or walking through the snow barefoot.

00:09:44.560 But sometimes I even could stay a whole night in shorts outside in freezing temperatures just because I wanted to discover something that was not known.

00:09:59.980 That was crazy, according to the people.

00:10:04.040 And all that, I took it on because I felt so good.

00:10:07.520 And nobody can say, hey, if you love somebody, they can say, it's not good for you, that person.

00:10:13.720 You go.

00:10:15.840 So I went regardless of what they said.

00:10:20.840 And that was for at least 25 years until I met radio and television.

00:10:28.200 And then, boom, I went all over the world because apparently I had gone where nobody had gone before.

00:10:37.180 That gut feeling led me into the depth of the physiology.

00:10:41.840 And now it shows.

00:10:43.640 Now it shows.

00:10:44.920 After meeting the scientists and doing first 26 world records and so many more challenges outside in hostile temperature environments,

00:10:56.840 like beyond the polar circle, run a full marathon in your shorts or swim record distances under the ice, just breath hold in shorts.

00:11:09.240 Go Kilimanjaro.

00:11:10.880 Also bare chested in record times.

00:11:14.440 Go climb Mount Everest to the death zone in shorts all.

00:11:19.140 I mean, that's the naked truth of our body.

00:11:23.260 What do we do when we go to Mount Everest?

00:11:26.700 We have oxygen.

00:11:28.400 We have clothes, 10 layers.

00:11:30.880 That's not a challenge.

00:11:32.860 If you want to challenge something in your body which is connected to your brain,

00:11:39.380 the neurology of the body, the vascular system, it's in the brain.

00:11:44.060 There is the steering wheel.

00:11:45.660 If you want to change the mind and the perception and the consciousness,

00:11:50.820 you've got to expose yourself to the hardships of nature and learn to control fear.

00:11:57.760 Go past.

00:11:59.120 To get in control, 100% of the brain's capacity.

00:12:02.840 Because we show this now in the best of brain scans of the world, Hanover,

00:12:09.340 one of the two best brain scans of the world.

00:12:11.320 We showed through these breathing techniques,

00:12:14.840 driven from going into the cold, 44 years, field work I did, breathing.

00:12:23.080 What do you do when you go into the cold?

00:12:25.960 You become alive in the depth.

00:12:28.940 You nourish yourself with oxygen, with life force, and you learn how to do that.

00:12:34.720 And then deeper mechanisms, they become connected to your will's neurology.

00:12:41.500 Last study I did, I showed in a brain scan, having cold water coming up on my skin,

00:12:49.380 just by my thought, I could make the skin temperature not going down.

00:12:55.560 That is a deep connection with the stress mechanisms in our brain.

00:13:00.280 We live in comfort zone behavior all the time, everywhere in the world.

00:13:05.640 And then we ask why we have uncontrollable inflammation going on and we can't do anything.

00:13:11.560 Because we never connected with the deep physiology.

00:13:15.200 Nature does not want you to be sick or depressed.

00:13:19.900 Because this is outside the functionality of nature.

00:13:23.620 In nature, you should be happy, strong, and healthy.

00:13:26.520 Because you've got to be alert for the danger.

00:13:30.360 There is no time to be depressed.

00:13:32.380 There is no time to be in disease.

00:13:35.280 Because you're going to be eaten.

00:13:37.020 You're going to die because of the environmental stress factors and all.

00:13:43.140 This is the way our physiology works.

00:13:46.460 And we alienate it from that.

00:13:49.040 Because we think we are with our extension tools that we control nature.

00:13:53.740 We do not even control our happiness, strength, and health.

00:13:58.480 We go to the moon.

00:14:00.360 While here on the earth, we have all the stress.

00:14:03.420 We got wars.

00:14:04.360 We got pollution.

00:14:05.400 We don't know what we do.

00:14:07.480 Because we lost the connection with who we are in the depth.

00:14:12.840 And this is what I've been doing up till now.

00:14:16.280 I have pledged myself when I was 12 years, I'm going to do something about this.

00:14:23.080 What?

00:14:23.620 I don't know.

00:14:24.640 But I'm going to do something about this.

00:14:27.060 Because I think war, pollution, abuse, exploitation, all these things.

00:14:35.260 The absence of happiness.

00:14:37.300 There's so much regulation.

00:14:38.860 Stention.

00:14:39.660 Stress.

00:14:41.140 Abuse.

00:14:42.280 And over with power and money.

00:14:44.620 That is sick.

00:14:47.160 And I'm going to do something.

00:14:48.520 How?

00:14:49.100 I did not know.

00:14:50.760 But a 12-year-old can be very strong.

00:14:54.500 It starts somewhere.

00:14:56.600 And it builds up.

00:14:58.440 Neurologically, I invest it.

00:15:00.380 It's called belief.

00:15:02.080 But now it appears to be that we found.

00:15:05.980 And I'm a drop out of school.

00:15:07.680 I'm no doctor.

00:15:09.040 I teach doctors.

00:15:10.500 And I teach professors.

00:15:11.600 I work with the best of them.

00:15:14.840 Like right now.

00:15:16.340 And right now, the last conversation I had with Dr. Kevin Tracy, who is in the board for the jury for Nobel Prize winners in the medical area.

00:15:28.260 He tested me in 2007.

00:15:31.500 And he saw me influencing deeply into the vagus nerve.

00:15:35.660 And the vagus nerve that is considered to be autonomic outside of our will.

00:15:40.580 Right.

00:15:40.740 If you are able to control or influence deeply into the vagus nerve, you are able to bring down inflammation, which is cause and effect of disease.

00:15:51.980 We found the answers in nature.

00:15:53.880 Can you describe, in any way that would be comprehensible to someone who didn't know how to do it, how you manage such things as control over the vagus nerve?

00:16:05.240 Yes.

00:16:05.920 The vagus nerve and the autonomic nervous system, the immune system, and the endocrine system.

00:16:11.460 All those were thought to be out of our willful control.

00:16:18.580 In 2014, I showed, as the first one in medical science, to be able to be injected and then have no symptoms with the E. coli bacteria, which can be lethal.

00:16:33.260 It's a strong bacteria, and it causes the cytokine storm.

00:16:41.260 Cytokine storm is inflammatory markers going berserk within our body because it doesn't not know what's happening.

00:16:49.580 And everything is an alarm, and it can damage our system.

00:16:53.580 That's a cytokine storm.

00:16:55.020 That's COVID as well.

00:16:57.200 Right.

00:16:57.500 That's the damaging factor of COVID.

00:16:59.340 And we could not do anything against that.

00:17:02.700 And then they tested me.

00:17:05.020 And I showed, as the first one, to be injected and have no effects.

00:17:11.400 And so what did you do after you were injected to stop the...

00:17:16.220 Two things.

00:17:17.160 Okay.

00:17:17.420 I did two things.

00:17:18.780 First of all, I used my mind.

00:17:22.520 And I just explained what the mind is capable of.

00:17:25.400 If it is connected to the stress mechanisms, our willful control, then you can give a neurosignal to the neurology of the rest of the body to do whatever is necessary to neutralize physical impact of any kind.

00:17:45.260 But that is the real connection we possibly all have.

00:17:51.520 But I did that then.

00:17:53.880 I used my will, and I used breathing.

00:17:56.880 And this breathing technique, apparently, it's an amazing technique, which is not known nowhere, because I found it out by going into cold water.

00:18:08.080 In cold water, you are directly exposed to deep stress, freezing water, deep stress on your body.

00:18:18.660 What do you do?

00:18:20.180 You don't think?

00:18:21.020 You do...

00:18:21.600 You learn to regulate biochemistry by deep breathing.

00:18:28.340 You jump into cold water.

00:18:30.500 Yes.

00:18:30.760 And then you breathe automatically, like you demonstrated.

00:18:34.700 And then you've played with that breathing and learned what?

00:18:38.320 I learned that through deep breathing, I was able to prolong my stay in cold water like tenfold.

00:18:49.720 How long did it take you?

00:18:51.180 How many months or years did it take you to develop that ability?

00:18:53.120 Only a couple of months.

00:18:55.000 A couple of months.

00:18:55.780 Only a couple of months.

00:18:56.300 And I could stay.

00:18:58.220 I also did my breathing exercises, and I could stay for five to seven minutes, breath, hold.

00:19:06.540 That's another thing.

00:19:08.320 It's not sports.

00:19:10.800 It's just our capacity is much more than we normally use.

00:19:16.400 Right, right.

00:19:17.660 And you're making the case that if we expose ourselves to relatively extreme stressors,

00:19:23.980 that we become more integrated psychophysiologically.

00:19:27.160 Yes, exactly.

00:19:28.720 Okay, so you went into cold water, and then you practiced staying in there longer and longer.

00:19:35.100 Yes.

00:19:35.120 And you did that, and you found that if you were able to, what, to voluntarily, would you

00:19:41.500 say, cooperate with that deep breathing, that that enabled you to stay in longer and

00:19:46.180 longer.

00:19:46.920 Yes.

00:19:47.680 Like tenfold.

00:19:48.760 And what was this?

00:19:49.440 Like playing in ice water.

00:19:51.160 Playing.

00:19:51.480 And it was this gut instinct that drove you to experiment with this.

00:19:56.580 It must have been extremely difficult.

00:19:59.080 That was surprisingly not there.

00:20:05.240 No difficulty whatsoever.

00:20:07.560 I was ready actually to go in.

00:20:09.880 I had debated so much, it's like, wow, get the, fuck the, shut up.

00:20:15.180 I want to, I want to do something.

00:20:17.180 You know, it's a moment like, you want to, you are over with this minding about it all.

00:20:25.480 You want to feel.

00:20:27.860 And so when I went into the water, I felt great.

00:20:31.900 I'm having all sorts of trouble regulating my physiology for a variety of reasons.

00:20:37.120 I'm very ill.

00:20:38.980 And I'm very interested in your accounts of psychophysiological integration in that way.

00:20:46.000 Is it autoimmune?

00:20:47.960 It's, it's, I have a...

00:20:49.900 It's damage, it's damage from medication.

00:20:53.120 Ah.

00:20:53.680 Like neurological damage.

00:20:55.840 I can't stop myself from moving.

00:20:57.940 Ah.

00:20:58.480 I am right now.

00:20:59.440 It's willpower that's stopping it.

00:21:01.180 But I have to move all the time uncontrollably.

00:21:04.660 So do this breathing technique because it works deeply on a reset of the neurology.

00:21:12.060 Can you show me?

00:21:12.820 What happens, I will show you.

00:21:14.660 Okay.

00:21:15.280 First, I explain.

00:21:16.920 Okay.

00:21:17.200 The working principle of this breathing technique is that we alkalize the body.

00:21:24.560 We bring up the pH level so much like we spike it to 8, where it normally has to be 7.3, 7.4.

00:21:35.600 Mostly we are below.

00:21:37.880 We bring it to 7.8.

00:21:41.020 Right.

00:21:41.820 And that's a logarithmic scale.

00:21:43.740 Yes.

00:21:44.080 And that, that is not good.

00:21:49.700 But it only spikes.

00:21:51.340 It only spikes.

00:21:52.440 And that activates the adrenal axis deeply.

00:21:58.160 They found out that the adrenal axis is spiked because of the pH spike we give it to the body.

00:22:05.740 You will experience it in this podcast.

00:22:10.660 I will show you.

00:22:12.020 Okay.

00:22:12.280 Well, can I, can I do it along with you?

00:22:14.320 Yes.

00:22:14.560 Yes.

00:22:14.800 Of course.

00:22:15.580 And you too.

00:22:16.960 Yeah.

00:22:17.700 You guys want to do it?

00:22:19.460 Yes.

00:22:19.700 Yes.

00:22:20.460 Yes.

00:22:20.680 Tell me how you feel afterwards.

00:22:22.800 Okay.

00:22:23.280 We just do one round.

00:22:25.020 I recommend you do it, Jordan.

00:22:28.800 You do it whenever you feel anxiety or a deep neurological deficiency or whatever.

00:22:36.780 Yes.

00:22:36.900 Okay.

00:22:37.120 Well, that means I should be doing it about two or three hundred times a day, I would say.

00:22:41.320 I think if you do this, then it's like staying away a longer and longer time.

00:22:48.640 But let's do it.

00:22:50.800 Okay.

00:22:51.160 Let's do it.

00:22:52.260 Okay.

00:22:53.100 Here we are.

00:22:54.220 Relaxed.

00:22:58.780 Take a deep breath.

00:23:01.880 All in and let it go.

00:23:06.240 All in.

00:23:09.760 Let it go.

00:23:13.000 I will take the telephone.

00:23:15.100 Then see how long.

00:23:16.680 You're going to stay first round.

00:23:18.900 90 seconds.

00:23:20.080 One and a half minutes after the exhalation without air in the lungs for 90 seconds.

00:23:29.400 No force.

00:23:30.700 That is deeply into the neurology.

00:23:33.260 You will see.

00:23:34.640 Just follow me.

00:23:36.060 And I will show you here on the timer that you do so.

00:23:42.100 And I will talk and say what is happening because you feel it.

00:23:48.180 Okay.

00:23:49.060 All right.

00:23:50.080 There we go.

00:23:52.340 This, by the way, this technique, with this, we change fundamentally medical science of our perspective of what we can do within our physiological depth.

00:24:06.680 Against bacteria, virus, depression, neurological diseases, et cetera.

00:24:13.080 But now you will experience.

00:24:14.740 So, I will show you on the camera the numbers.

00:24:23.280 Okay.

00:24:23.620 Oh, my God.

00:24:24.000 I don't know if I can do numbers.

00:24:24.800 There we go.

00:24:25.260 So, now you got it.

00:24:26.260 So, now you got it.

00:24:27.200 Fully in.

00:24:28.240 Fully in.

00:24:29.240 Let it go.

00:24:30.240 Let it go.

00:24:31.240 Let it go.

00:24:32.840 Fully in.

00:24:33.840 Fully in.

00:24:34.840 Fully in.

00:24:35.840 Let it go.

00:24:36.840 Let it go.

00:24:37.840 Keep on going.

00:24:38.840 The mind goes with the breath.

00:24:40.840 Don't mind about nothing else but your breath.

00:24:47.840 The mind is a big player.

00:24:48.840 So, let it be with the breath.

00:24:49.840 So, let it be with the breath.

00:24:54.840 Fully in.

00:24:55.420 Fully in.

00:24:55.840 Let it go.

00:24:56.840 Fully in.

00:24:57.840 Let it go.

00:24:58.840 Keep on going.

00:24:59.840 Fully in.

00:25:00.840 Keep on going.

00:25:04.840 Fully in.

00:25:19.840 Fully in.

00:25:22.340 All right, let it go.

00:25:24.840 let it go become lightheaded go on fully in let it go 18 times more fully in let it go

00:25:41.000 fully in let it go 16 more fully in let it go

00:25:50.600 fully in let it go 13 to become lightheaded loom in the body don't mind just go it takes just a

00:26:05.560 couple of minutes what we do to arrive at a deep impact on our physiology deeper than in science

00:26:13.640 was thought possible it's all here then after the feeling because feeling is understanding we can talk

00:26:24.360 eight more just go it's a workout seven fully in let it go

00:26:38.200 six more

00:26:38.840 fully in let it go fully in let it go two more fully in let it go fully in let it go

00:27:00.040 now there comes the last one fully in let it go and stop after the exhalation

00:27:10.200 close your mouth no smuggling just witness there is no need for breathing

00:27:19.640 the carbon dioxide has been blown up ph level uh is a really high there is no trigger to breathe

00:27:27.400 only the brain could reflux but don't just be in the peace it's the parasympathetic nervous system

00:27:38.680 deep peace no need for breathing just witness you are deep into the physiology of your being

00:27:49.000 the way nature meant it to be because you are right now in deep deep stress but you are tranquil

00:27:56.760 it's a paradox we are really deep into our physiology right now no force

00:28:07.000 and you changed your biochemistry and now the adrenal axis is shooting out

00:28:16.360 through all the body resets the body any defect is being neutralized getting rid of

00:28:26.600 10 seconds more 10 seconds more

00:28:29.880 nine six three two one fully in fully in and hold fully in hold squeeze it to your head

00:28:44.680 three two one let it go there we are god i hated that yeah sure but this is the way wait you know what

00:29:01.880 you hate more this neurological defect yes and this is the way through deep stress activated consciously

00:29:11.160 while being okay because it's maybe also because of the stress of the podcast and so we are here

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00:32:13.080 i probably did 85 seconds and took a tiny little breath yeah that's what happened to me too this is

00:32:21.160 route number one route number two we would go two minutes route number three two and a half

00:32:27.400 number four three minutes of holding breath exhale in the lungs yes you you got to do this then you will

00:32:35.480 see how do you feel well i'm not wandering around the room uncontrollably moving and screaming so you

00:32:46.360 know that's better than three or four hours of my day i'm still able to stay calm and sit here and talk to

00:32:53.960 you exactly that's an accomplishment now you got to go even deeper and so in four rounds you will be able

00:33:02.520 to reach after exhalation that is understand the principle after exhalation means there is no air

00:33:11.560 anymore in the lungs and do you exhale completely yeah almost completely like i found i found if you

00:33:20.360 if you exhale all the way and then you kind of bring your stomach up underneath your ribs yes um that

00:33:28.280 helps i got taught that earlier this year it kind of helps suppress the feeling in yoga that is the

00:33:34.920 contraction uddhyana bandha it's all you know it's old knowledge but this is all new and that it is

00:33:44.200 through science makes it a trustworthy it's data it shows that we are activating the immune system through

00:33:53.640 this deep stress the adrenal axis suddenly spikes while you are in control how many breaths did you

00:34:02.280 have us take about 30 30 30 30 breaths and then a minute and then and so with your with your your

00:34:11.000 advice is to do the 30 breaths and the 90 minutes of breath holding 90 seconds 90 seconds of breath

00:34:16.520 holding yes around that and then what i advise is this go without force so whenever you really feel

00:34:27.960 the urge to breathe again do it take him in but i tell you in four rounds you should be able if you just

00:34:38.680 relax on that beautiful it's a very nice couch by the way thank you so now i like the golden and the

00:34:45.880 and the cup of green yes well she spent a lot of time picking this out you just had it delivered

00:34:51.160 didn't you yeah i bought it off a very elderly lady but i love it it's a it's a nice couch and you love

00:34:58.920 it yeah that's that's nice so if you lie on the couch or at home on the bed you are even more relaxed

00:35:07.640 then the the tissue is able to open up more and receive even more oxygen then the ph levels they go

00:35:17.800 even way up more and then it's easier to not breathe what happens when you not breathe and your ph

00:35:27.240 levels are actually okay they are great then there is no oxygen suddenly the oxygen drops dramatically

00:35:36.680 nobody understands in the hospital because they saw this for the first time that is where normal people

00:35:43.720 die we go even lower in doing just what we just did yes if you do three minutes you go lower than

00:35:53.560 people who are dying and so that's three minutes three minutes of breath holding yes exhale after the

00:36:01.080 axillation that means that the oxygen after one a half minute the oxygen drops dramatically and that

00:36:09.320 means that in the brain stem the the survival brain the survival triggers they come up with the adrenal

00:36:17.400 axis hypothalamus epiphysis pituitary glands and the adrenal glands womb and then anything that should not be in the

00:36:26.280 body is gotten rid of oh it's like a sick sweet yeah yeah and one of the thing is the immune system

00:36:36.600 the immune system white cells the stem cells are activated the red cells their lymphocytes and neutrophils

00:36:44.440 the t cells the b cells they are all activated because it wants to survive it wants to get rid of what should

00:36:53.880 not be dead what is blocking right and your utmost functionality right you're actually indicating to

00:37:00.360 your body that something that something wrong has happened now you come in is a even a different thing is

00:37:09.960 the neural signal of your own will your intention will count at that moment it will execute what you have

00:37:19.160 neural signaling uh demanded to your body that is the new science i i showed it in detroit you got to look

00:37:27.800 it up as a doctor you can look into the paper it's called brain over body psychology over physiology

00:37:36.200 it's new they say and that's uh that's why it was interesting to also talk to you uh father uh thank you very

00:37:44.040 much for having me on your podcast thank you but the thing is the psychiatrist who tested me they saw me

00:37:52.520 activating robustly a area of the brain thought of impossible by humans which is the periaqueductal

00:38:01.560 gray hemisphere oh yes that's involved in pain endocannabinoids the the opioids and the

00:38:09.000 cannabinoids the endocannabinoid system there's opioid crisis in the world we found a way how to willfully

00:38:18.040 activate that area that huge consequences another thing uh uh those professors they say uh we found

00:38:28.760 this is the way they stated in the publication uh we now have the compelling evidence

00:38:37.400 of the key the key components of the autonomous processes in the brain related to mood regulation

00:38:50.680 so if we have anxiety depression psychosis then something is not working well how to bring back

00:38:58.200 balance this one doesn't they say this is a transformational technique that will change mental

00:39:06.200 health care it's only a matter of time and sorry that it is so easy

00:39:13.720 that it is so simple well it it's i didn't find it that simple to do um and it wasn't simple for

00:39:20.680 you to discover that is true took me 40 40 years could you tell us a little bit more about

00:39:28.680 the relationship between this breathing technique and the cold therapy that you're using

00:39:34.200 yes the cold therapy trains the cardiovascular system killer number one in society what is it

00:39:42.680 cardiovascular related diseases why because we wear clothes all the time we are never exposed to the

00:39:52.200 the elements of nature to call to heat to pressure it's always neutral neutral it's like a muscle and you

00:40:00.360 you don't train it it's there but it is this that is our vascular system our vascular system is

00:40:07.560 hundreds thousand kilometers long inside everybody and the thermal receptors and the electrical receptors

00:40:16.520 they end up in our biggest organ of ours which is the skin we always got it covered

00:40:23.400 logically we have a cardiovascular related epidemic pandemic pandemic going on for hundreds of years

00:40:32.760 already and now i say cold shower a day keeps the doctor away okay so how cold and how long

00:40:41.880 that it begins with 30 seconds first i explain what you know what happens when you go into a cold shower you

00:40:51.720 uh activate you stimulate deeply the thermal receptors and the uh and the pain receptor pain receptor

00:41:01.560 thermoreceptors electro receptors which is the neurology uh all connected to the skin they uh in uh turn

00:41:11.160 they affect the vascular system the cardiovascular system millions of little muscles suddenly are stimulated

00:41:19.560 they begin to uh optimize then the blood flow goes a lot better through the system that is number one

00:41:28.440 that reaches a lot better ourselves with oxygen nutrients and vitamins that's why a cold shower gives you energy

00:41:37.000 then the second thing if you regularly you begin with 30 seconds then you do 45 seconds one minute one

00:41:46.040 minute and a quarter etc you go up to two and a half minutes a day why because that is the vascular fitness

00:41:54.360 exercise the best then cardiovascular related diseases and that is also inflammation into the heart

00:42:02.920 inflammation into our neurology is goodbye how simple what happens that the heart rate when all these little

00:42:13.240 millions of little primitive muscles in the hundreds a thousand of uh blood vessels inside are activated

00:42:21.720 optimized then the heart rate suddenly doesn't need to compensate for the loss of the vascular condition

00:42:29.320 and then the heart rate will go down with 20 to 30 beats a minute 24 hours a day you see what kind of stress

00:42:38.440 that would be if you have a weak vascular system in tone then it takes maybe years maybe 10 years maybe 20 years

00:42:48.920 but it will take its toll because the heart rate when it goes up it triggers directly uh the liver to release

00:42:59.480 cortisol and glucose it's like you are in fight and flight because the function of our accelerated heart rate

00:43:07.320 is to pump glucose and adrenaline through our system the fast as possible yeah but now there is a constant

00:43:15.000 danger signal going on because of our way that's why cardiovascular related diseases arteriosclerosis

00:43:25.080 is logical because the blood flow is not helped with these millions of little muscles who are

00:43:31.720 weakened they are not stimulated and then the heart rate needs to pump 20 to 30 a minute 24 hours a day

00:43:39.160 day in day out day in hey man it will take its toll soon or later so the people they gotta wake up cold shower

00:43:50.440 the best thing you can do for yourself is a cold shower how cool

00:43:53.880 then just to cold take turn them to cold that is creating the stimulation you start with 30 seconds

00:44:04.280 yes it begins with 30 seconds because i say don't force because you uh any maybe 90 of the people go well

00:44:15.720 you guys you you will go well young woman that goes well no problem hey uh if you have a condition

00:44:23.960 any then it is because of a one of you of the system there is a defect going on it will boost at that

00:44:33.080 moment the system and it will go through a good job so that's why i say uh safety first 30 seconds to

00:44:42.120 begin with but within 10 days anybody is able to do the same to go to uh two and a half minutes no

00:44:50.280 problem cold within 10 days within 10 days your cardiovascular system is is improved so much uh the

00:45:01.400 way nature meant it to be and the way nature meant it to be is that the skin is we have skin we have

00:45:08.360 electrical receptors and thermal receptors and pain receptors all go into the skin to give us the

00:45:14.680 information of what is going out uh in in in in life but would you would you recommend covered it up

00:45:23.400 would you recommend doing this in the morning or or in the afternoon or the evening whenever you take

00:45:29.000 the shower okay you take them nice and warm etc it's all nice but then to also take the cold one

00:45:38.360 it's the best they they what they saw uh with a cold water we we just recently have uh done a new

00:45:46.520 study on that it really improves within 10 days the cardio vascular system which is directly related to

00:45:54.360 the neurology by the way uh neurologic uh the the opening and closing of all those the activating of

00:46:02.280 those muscles to open and close all the veins arteries and capillaries i mean hundred thousand kilometers

00:46:10.760 is done by the neurology the nervous system so if any defect is there in the nervous system

00:46:18.200 you will get to it through a cold shower increasing that is last last practical question maybe maybe the

00:46:27.240 last one um well so the cold shower is 30 seconds and you can you can also use a warm shower afterwards

00:46:36.040 if you want yes warm uh before in the beginning you should end with the cold shower yes and then after

00:46:44.600 10 days you like to begin with cold which is better why because then your mind comes into play

00:46:53.240 because you know you are going into the cold then you connect with the stress mechanisms inside yourself

00:46:59.240 you become stronger when you know you are facing danger when you face when you go to face a a a force

00:47:08.360 you set your mind to it and that is what we lost in our society it's always comfort comfort comfort comfort

00:47:17.480 no seek discomfort then discomfort becomes power that's the point where you are learning and there

00:47:27.240 you get new power you get you go past the conditioning and that it's amazing what the cold can teach us

00:47:35.080 this should be known by the whole world because now let me tell you this because besides psychiatry i'm

00:47:42.920 working with the top researchers on the dna right now next month we have the results because they see

00:47:49.000 this as hormesis hormetic exercising that is acute uh uh exposing yourself to stress

00:47:56.920 yes yeah just for a short term yeah voluntarily yeah that's part of the heroes short term and it

00:48:04.120 it works like a bloody vaccine but then once without side effects only the good thing it optimizes our

00:48:13.240 bodies directly nature's got it all so that that is the cold and they are doing the study right now

00:48:21.800 on uh the dna and depression uh-huh the best top researchers in america on the dna they are doing

00:48:31.400 this in san francisco ucsf professor elisa epel yeah mind her because they found a new way if you stress

00:48:40.920 yourself you can change how dna creates proteins exactly in this case and in this case the cold shock

00:48:50.760 and heat shock and heat shock proteins not only it goes even deeper the telomeres are at work the gene

00:48:58.440 expression the transcription factors it's all at work all is a big breakthrough a new new mapping

00:49:07.560 as uh has begun and they are going to investigate more and now comes the next study is with uh professor

00:49:16.120 kevin tracy in new york and i will do this study with the harvard professor stanford professor and uh

00:49:24.760 the biggest uh health provider and researcher of new york they already tested me the beginning of the

00:49:32.760 discussion or the podcast i uh i said something about the vagus nerve yeah which was uncontrolled i already

00:49:40.680 showed that in 2007 but then we didn't continue i continued then with the robot university here in

00:49:48.040 the netherlands and then we fundamentally changed science by showing that the autonomic nervous system

00:49:54.680 endocrine system and immune system all can deeply be influenced at will by the human in a comparative study

00:50:04.120 this was unknown in the medical science it changed the perspective of what we can do against inflammation

00:50:11.240 which in the end is the cause and effect of say depression to cancer to anything

00:50:18.200 so i am now sorry i gotta finish this i'm now with the latest study with dr kevin tracy again the professor

00:50:26.600 the the the nobel prize jury uh man and he is a great authority we're going to do this with a couple of more professors of

00:50:35.320 great universities to beat that what what makes covet 19 a a a laughing joke the information killed 60 to 70 million

00:50:47.560 people only in the west already and we found a way to beat inflammation which was uh occurred

00:50:56.360 that was considered to be impossible by humans at will to control but we showed in 2014 with e coli bacteria

00:51:05.800 first me but then i said no everybody is able to do that and i took a group of people and after 16

00:51:13.560 134 people becoming sick with the same experimental model then 12 people suddenly 100 percent did not

00:51:23.560 became sick and then they looked inside the blood and they saw them all influencing after a couple of

00:51:30.600 days into the autonomic nervous system in its immune system specific immune system and the endocrine says

00:51:37.960 all systems we could not within the scientific paradigm control at will and now yes and now we are going to

00:51:47.000 reproduce it because it's all natural because it's all natural doesn't get out because this is going on

00:51:54.120 power is going on it's a sick society we have to get back to our senses independency that is psychologically

00:52:03.480 and physically and that's why podcasts like this they uh they showed away yeah how do you how do you

00:52:11.720 integrate the breathing and the cold do you do that at the same time can you do the breath holding in the

00:52:19.400 cold yes what i did in the cold that was i mean when i got a group of motivated people and i bring them to

00:52:31.880 my center in poland now i'm there 100 people then after four days even people without former experience in

00:52:40.760 the cold in four days day number four they go in shorts for five hours on and in freezing temperatures

00:52:52.520 men women regardless the age or even condition what is that that is awakening to a innate forgotten

00:53:04.280 disconnected power which we are born with and i found a way to awaken it within a couple of days so how

00:53:14.120 did you how did you train them what did you do yes every day you know you start first you explain hey guys

00:53:22.760 there is not only more than meets the eye it's who we are and what we are what we are going to

00:53:29.880 experience how i don't know this is the way i started and now i found that i flabber casted the fund of

00:53:37.880 foundations of science itself i did so many records and i went on and on and on and on and on and on

00:53:45.800 and then i caught the eye of the scientists of the scientific world what this man is doing is not

00:53:51.880 possible according science but he is doing it let's test on him and then they uh tested me in several

00:53:59.320 ways and they thought and they saw me doing things they are considered to be impossible by science and

00:54:07.000 then i said hey everybody is able to this is the way i start with these people yeah first okay change

00:54:13.880 change their paradigm okay okay right so you're doing the same thing to us in this podcast yes

00:54:20.840 exactly and then and then we go out they say okay now take your shoes off let's go in shorts outside

00:54:28.280 there is no let's all walk for say five ten minutes barefoot in the snow just have fun a snowball fight

00:54:37.720 something like that and everybody has fun nobody feels the cold anymore

00:54:43.240 and then it's an awakening because our thought oh it's wrong it's wrong it's got to be wrong if you

00:54:51.000 think it is wrong but if you take it on playful and that's what i do right then there is no thought

00:54:58.680 i make it ridiculous this hostile force this so negative overwhelming called primordially

00:55:06.520 uh primordially a getting to us that it is dangerous and all i make it a laughing joke and that

00:55:14.520 you see everybody having fun that's only in the night when they came to me after fatiguing travel

00:55:21.080 from wherever they come from hawaii to australia to new zealand to japan to russia they all come there

00:55:30.120 and it's fatiguing traveling they feel renewed and they sleep like babies that is the night number one

00:55:37.960 and in the in the morning they are excited but they also like oh what happened i don't know maybe i

00:55:45.400 cannot believe what happened and then i boom into the breathing and then you hear the biggest yelling

00:55:54.280 of releasing trauma and i go to the ancestors and everything because i know how to open up the

00:56:03.320 closed up proteins because of traumatic experiences what do you mean that you go to the ancestors what

00:56:08.840 do you mean by that that is anything that is genetically encrypted in our gene expressions

00:56:15.880 and closed up is because of a genetical path okay so why do you right do you why do you specifically

00:56:22.280 refer to that as the ancestors what made you think that because we are the ancestors within our dna we

00:56:30.680 carry every information of our ancestry like 13 like possibly 100 as long as it is not solved it's still

00:56:42.680 within us okay that is the mechanism i've just i've just written a new book and there's this it's not out

00:56:49.560 till march there's a section in there there's an old mythological idea that the hero has to rescue his

00:56:59.000 his sleeping father from the abyss from a terrible monster and i construed that in the book as

00:57:07.560 the ability to awaken sleeping ancestral forces likely coded genetically as a consequence of voluntary exposure

00:57:18.280 to stress yes there we come together jordan this is what i do right now in san francisco showing

00:57:27.720 through uh bringing back the the primal primordial condition of the cell together with the cold shock

00:57:35.640 heat shock proteins what happens right you do it practically yes yes you do this if you go

00:57:43.080 regularly in the cold then you're the activation of those cold shock proteins that are also heat shock

00:57:50.680 because it's the same thing it's through the hypothalamus and it works boom right we get connection

00:57:57.400 and then suddenly you bring a protective shield around the cell what happens inside the war is over guys

00:58:04.120 we can go into repair we can go into repair and then you neurosignaling we talked about neurosignaling i was able to bring

00:58:13.080 a cold water on the skin skin temperature not going down that is how long can you do that for how long can you maintain as long as it takes

00:58:21.640 as long as it takes that is the power of our mind intention it's a real undiscovered

00:58:28.120 area of psychiatry which i have uh discovered together with a professor vaibath diva car and professor otto music

00:58:38.280 in detroit do you have to eat you have to eat more because of that no no no absolutely not it's the power of your

00:58:46.520 intention your intention is able this is a general universal principle of our mind only not awakened it was not

00:58:56.760 discovered the first time somebody ran the four miles in a certain incredible time year later 20 could

00:59:05.160 do it that's in their mind so what we find is if we expose it to people then they begin they change their

00:59:15.080 paradigm the paradigm this is what they say we wim hof has found the secret of placebo placebo is no longer

00:59:26.360 just over there it's now with controllable healing force whenever you need it it's the top down

00:59:33.960 regulated interoception it's in within our will that's the new science and that that brings us back

00:59:42.600 to the ancestry so first we made this cell protected by a shield activating the cold shock heat shock proteins

00:59:52.440 then inside the cell you get logically is signal hey there is no war anymore energy is not needed to

01:00:00.200 get inflammation out of here or to deal with inflammation or oxidative stress oh let's go into

01:00:06.200 the uh uh uh the close-up proteins of our ancestry we can work it out now because now it's silent now it's

01:00:14.040 nice now we got the energy pieces here this is the principle a general principle of nature when you are wounded

01:00:22.520 you retract but if you are a war you do you can even uh keep on shooting with a lack of shot that's

01:00:33.640 adrenaline cortisol that mode just keeps on going that's our society that is also wrong there is no peace

01:00:41.640 there is no uh ability to retract no more work needs to be done daily uh uh how do you say uh uh

01:00:52.120 these uh yeah whatever work needs to be done all the time in production production your people in

01:01:00.120 poland the first day you you have them go outside in the cold for a long period of time with with no shoes

01:01:06.280 on for example and they wake up the next day and you introduce them to the breathing if if someone's

01:01:11.560 doing this at home like if if i wanted to start this tomorrow i'd get up and have a cold shower and i

01:01:17.720 would i would do that voluntarily as facing the stress okay and then how would i in how would i do the

01:01:24.840 breathing would i do that after the shower would i do that in the afternoon when would i do that

01:01:30.760 that you do it whenever you are completely rested like relaxed because the breathing will open up your

01:01:41.320 physiology deeply if you go into deep stress while being a kind of okay that is the breathing

01:01:51.480 the breathing exercises is a workout because the vascular system is more activated than somebody who's

01:01:59.400 running you see lately i did a a a research with paralyzed people amazing i can't i can't do it when

01:02:10.920 i'm relaxed because i'm never relaxed oh but you can you can maybe you will directly intervene into into

01:02:22.280 the neurological anxiety going on whatever is on the loose you will be able to create a extra altered

01:02:31.320 current uh within uh electrical current the nervous system i mean so does it will be able to does it not

01:02:38.360 matter when i do it then like i could do no it does not matter i mean i was able to do it with you

01:02:44.760 anti-stomach if you need me i'm there or anytime you can call me we have a zoom and we do it but you

01:02:54.200 don't need me i i like to talk with you because you got you got a great experience in words and a

01:03:02.680 contemplation and a lot of expertise and i think we coincide a lot like just now about the stress the

01:03:10.520 ancestry oh yeah that took me like 15 years to figure out because i've read all these stories

01:03:17.080 they're ancient stories that first the core element of the hero's journey which is the proper journey

01:03:23.640 through life is voluntary confrontation with what is unknown and terrifying that's the human way and

01:03:31.800 one of the consequence of that is the rescuing of the dead father or the hurt father or the sleeping

01:03:37.400 father it's like it's a fundamental element of egyptian um mythology for example ancient egyptian

01:03:43.160 mythology and it's it's part of the idea of the dying and resurrecting god it's it's it's entangled

01:03:49.000 up in that as well and it wasn't until recently that i figured out that the consequence of voluntarily

01:03:55.800 facing stress is the awakening of abilities within you that are part of our ancestral heritage and so

01:04:03.080 that is how you become a living avatar of the great heroes of the past but i never it never occurred to

01:04:10.680 me that that that you could find high stressors of a of a say physical type so close at hand i never

01:04:19.560 i never really put that together the idea that cold stress for example would be sufficient to start

01:04:26.760 that process what about heat stress i found saunas were actually useful for me fasting

01:04:33.080 what about fasting what about fasting yeah not starving all those all those were great

01:04:38.760 fasting is hormesis heat stress is hormesis uh the cold stress but the breathing

01:04:46.280 really it these breathing techniques let me compare it has been compared in brain scan studies

01:04:53.320 of people doing four hours of mindfulness a day for years they could not get as a as deep as a person

01:05:03.560 practicing this type of uh breathing exercises go into the depth of the brain they could not get into

01:05:12.280 the depth of the brain even after years four hours of mindfulness a day and these what we did we went

01:05:19.800 deeper inside the brain than those people so this and that's in 30 breaths yes this exercise which

01:05:29.800 began with going into the cold it made me

01:05:35.480 that's the first thing then you learn that through prolonged deep breathing you learn to control the

01:05:43.400 biochemistry inside the biochemistry inside to uh to shake off the uh stressor which is the cold and thus

01:05:51.480 prolong time in cold water you find it out and it's all based on experience and sensation and it works okay

01:06:00.040 then i began to disconnect the breathing from the cold cold i still was doing etc but then i did these breathing

01:06:08.600 exercises at uh at home and they blew my mind anything that i had read in all the asian scriptures i saw plenty

01:06:19.800 oh oh oh and deeper and now i found that these breathing exercises are able to go where our paradigm of medical

01:06:29.880 medical science uh thought of is impossible and i'm showing this now i know you are uh practicing

01:06:38.840 conscious control over a semi-unconscious function when you're exerting control over your breathing

01:06:45.560 and breathing is strange because it does occur unconsciously but we can also modify it consciously

01:06:50.840 so it's right at the it's right at the what would you say the border between consciousness and unconsciousness

01:06:57.080 uh interesting yes good point a good point uh it's a good point of view and we modulate our we modulate

01:07:06.120 our breathing voluntarily all the time when we're speaking and so it's also associated with the voice

01:07:13.480 amazing yes uh that that is so and then we saw in the brain scans in germany in hanover one of the best

01:07:22.120 two brain scans of the world doing this breathing

01:07:27.240 normally we have a willful control over 16 of our neural activity in our brain

01:07:34.680 and now they saw 100 percent neural activation within the brain

01:07:41.960 done consciously because we were doing the breathing exercises

01:07:46.600 you'd recommend doing this just once a day

01:07:49.240 yes this opens up the subconscious part of our brain

01:07:53.480 we are able to access into our subconscious and it is only logical we don't have a hump

01:08:01.080 of meat to be not within our control but we never are schooled therein and then later in life we begin to

01:08:09.640 become independent and then you get to the ancestry you get into the subconsciousness you get on all that which

01:08:17.480 which is outside of the system which the natives had they were saying i bless your seven generations

01:08:24.680 before and the seventh generation they knew all this intuitively then we westerners came we took over the

01:08:32.840 land we stole it everywhere in africa in australia and america everywhere we europeans that's me the dutch

01:08:43.320 we were very good at slavery and all that and trading and all that and now comes to an end i say we got

01:08:50.280 to go back to our nativeness make sense and then making this sense spiritually with two feet on the ground

01:09:00.360 is liberating the captivated souls of our forefathers which is directly

01:09:10.440 seen within the proteins within our genes

01:09:15.400 and now we are there and i've been talking to nobel prize winners on the dna about this

01:09:21.880 i'm going to ask you two questions i just want to clarify something

01:09:25.080 so first if i wanted to start this i could start by 30 second cold shower and i could also start by the

01:09:33.480 same day doing 30 breaths of the sort that you recommended and that was just full exhale

01:09:42.520 full inhale and did you hold it yeah well i got a free app on my website it's very good

01:09:50.760 it says it all all the science is there all and you can uh get you a track of your records and uh

01:09:59.160 uh your timetables and everything okay what's your website developed this wim hof is my name yeah

01:10:06.840 wim hof method dot com wim hof method dot com yeah and that's where the app is available you find the app

01:10:16.440 well you better you better uh crank up the capacities of your website because we're going to crash it

01:10:23.640 hey i mean it with all the love with all the love because i respect you guys a lot

01:10:31.480 we are doing good work to the world we want to stir up the world because it's what is happening in the

01:10:39.480 world it needs change and change needs to come from you from me you from me we are here the generations

01:10:49.240 are coming together yesterday i went my oldest son is 37 my youngest son is three years old i got six

01:10:56.840 children so i'm also in play gardens and my son and made me stop in amsterdam in a little play garden

01:11:04.680 somewhere i know i had never been okay there i was and he wanted to play i had to go around again

01:11:12.760 because in amsterdam you gotta go on otherwise a car's gonna push you yeah so you i had to go around

01:11:19.320 again and there i found a place to stop and i went outside seven children were there in that playground

01:11:26.680 when i came to the playground six to 12 years they were the wim hof man wim hof man they know this

01:11:36.200 shit they they are looking for something that really works i'm a hero because i did under the eyes mount

01:11:44.920 everest i run marathons in the desert in the in the north pole i hang by one finger up in the air and

01:11:53.960 records 26 and this and that and i got the signs but the children know they need a role model and i'm

01:12:04.760 real i am about love i'm about to take ownership of who i am and what i am that is what i want to give

01:12:13.960 my children and all the rest of the world and we should not hesitate therein your knowledge is great

01:12:21.160 your efforts like what you do right now it's great work so keep on going with that and let's have a

01:12:29.160 podcast again because i like what you said on the ancestry on the ancestry this is my next i'm gonna

01:12:38.600 write a next book too my book is doing great apparently it's already in 21 languages new york

01:12:45.560 time bestseller just a couple of weeks ago and it keeps on going what's your book's name whim the

01:12:53.400 whim of method that's right well i would encourage all the viewers and listeners of this to pick that up

01:13:01.400 yeah for sure ah good good yes and listen viewers we are going to change psychiatry because we think and

01:13:10.360 we have proven within the science and in brain scans and in blood proof that we are able to control

01:13:17.640 our inflammation and to regulate our mood we own our own mind we have found connections and now it's a

01:13:27.640 matter of time but if you are depressed or feeling bad and you cannot get out just get into this it comes

01:13:35.080 from nature it works beyond works it's it's you it's your life force awaiting now it is a non-dogmatic

01:13:44.840 choice because all the millions of data we got already happiness strength and health happiness is the

01:13:52.840 endocrine system the health that is the immune system the strength that is energy the metabolic

01:13:59.640 uh processes in the cell we got it all proven to be able to be improved by so far far more than in

01:14:09.480 science was thought possible here we are to be happy strong and healthy it's only logical

01:14:17.640 thank you so much for coming on i was really excited to particularly connect you with my dad because he's

01:14:23.640 been having such a hell of a time and obviously i'm a huge fan so thank you so much for talking with us

01:14:29.400 yes it was a real pleasure to meet you uh it's a amazing uh respect i have for you guys and uh for

01:14:38.840 your knowledge accumulated through uh your contemplations and you got a lovely daughter

01:14:44.760 and intelligent i got also two daughters one is a psychologist and the other one is they are both

01:14:51.000 out with me but that's good well thanks again thanks again i would very much like to talk

01:14:58.680 to you again maybe maybe i'll try your method for a month and and then we can talk again or even a

01:15:04.200 couple of weeks and i can report on what it's done for me yeah that's a good idea i think uh uh this was a

01:15:11.240 was a nice a great beginning good very nice to meet you wim nice to meet you nice to meet you bye bye

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The Jordan B. Peterson Podcast - December 06, 2020

Wim Hof with Jordan and Mikhaila Peterson

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