00:06:53.460But I walked away, and I had – normally you go to a conference,
00:06:56.460and you're like, oh, I wish we had this where we were.
00:06:59.220you know, back home. And I went to that conference and I was like, you know what? I'm actually really
00:07:02.720grateful for my people, my place and Refuge Church. Really excited. And I think maybe that's
00:07:09.020where we'll go with some of this. Really excited to talk about kind of what we've got going on here
00:07:13.340and why it's become so special to all of us. Yeah. Yeah. And a lot of the questions that you
00:07:19.480and I were getting from different listeners and podcast listeners, people listening to the music
00:07:24.480and kind of keeping tabs on what we're doing here on Ogden, just basically overall, they wanted to
00:07:29.200know like tell us more tell us about your singing you guys talk about singing a lot tell us about
00:07:33.680the school tell us about the community what like you guys talk as if ogden is this utopia which
00:07:40.400it's not a utopia there's tons of work to do but we genuinely love it here i someone could come in
00:07:47.880and say eric i'm gonna give you a you know big paycheck come pastor our mega church and i would
00:07:54.560do it. I mean, what? He's like, how much is the paycheck? That backfired on me, guys. I'm not
00:08:01.320going to lie. No, it's just, I don't think any of us would say, I'd be like, no, thanks.
00:08:05.660Yeah, we're not leaving. Because what the Lord has done here is, I mean, for us, it's like it's
00:08:13.120day to day, but I meet people all the time and they're like, no. They start describing their
00:08:18.380situation. They start describing five. They've looked everywhere. They're trying to find a church,
00:08:21.600communities um not thick like they're not singing the psalms they're not educating children there's
00:08:29.660just there's uh we're really thankful like i just am very thankful yeah some of them don't even have
00:08:35.860like the basic things of like you know some deep friendships yeah no friendships no there's no
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00:27:21.260But I think one of the things I admired most about what he did with the conference is he's really trying to give a lot of different guys the spotlight to expose each of us to the other people, to network.
00:27:34.380And I think it's a good picture for the church.
00:27:36.160we've had a lot of incidents in the especially reform baptist presbyterian camps both sides
00:27:41.820involved in this there's bickering there's infighting but at the end of the day i really
00:27:46.860like the attitude of hey we're actually trying to help each other yeah we're not trying to tear
00:27:50.900each other down we're not trying to say your thing sucks because mine's great yeah um but
00:27:55.920again i think the conference was a good showcase of there's a lot of good people doing a lot of
00:28:00.400good work get to know them let's celebrate some of that work and there's enough glory to go around
00:28:05.900Yeah. Glory is not a fixed pie. Yeah. It's not like if I honor Dan and Eric or if I honor Michael or if I honor Doug or whatever, that it's like, oh, there was 100% of glory. They took 3%. There's only 97 left. So you better know. It's like God, all of it comes from the father and all of it's redounds to the father. It's glory belongs to God.
00:28:27.420But when we live like he does, he's a God who bestows glory on his creatures.