The Krypto Report - #27 - Tactical Navel-Gazing

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00:00:28.520 The sound you hear is what some experts claim to be a Bigfoot scream.

00:00:46.560 It is regarded as the highest quality audio of the creature ever captured.

00:00:52.080 Well, close your ears, Wolf, because I'm going to give you a reaction, and it's personal.

00:00:55.240 I'm a proud shitholer.

00:00:57.180 My family was called wops and mackerel eaters.

00:01:00.020 We came from Italians and Irish who were regarded as people from shithole countries.

00:01:05.580 A century ago, we called people slant eyes, Chinese immigrants that we're now ashamed of speaking about in those terms

00:01:11.880 because they came from a shithole country, and now they're a backbone of this country.

00:01:16.520 In the 1940s, we called people traitors because they came from a shithole country we call Japan and we're ashamed.

00:01:22.400 We call people who fled from conflict in Central America spics and wetbacks, and we're ashamed.

00:01:28.700 The president is growing this country on the backbone of bigotry that comes from when I saw my family called spics, wops, and mackerel eaters.

00:01:39.620 We should be ashamed.

00:01:41.780 We've learned too many lessons, and history will tell you that if you don't read history, you'll repeat them.

00:01:47.380 That's what our previous conversations that this is economic, so let's be clear.

00:01:52.020 A white honky from Norway can come here, but a black dude from Haiti can't.

00:01:57.760 What does that tell you in an America that in one generation called you a nigger?

00:02:03.560 What does that tell you, Don?

00:02:04.640 Called you a nigger.

00:02:05.320 I can tell you what that tells a honky like me.

00:02:07.980 Called you a nigger.

00:02:08.560 We're no different than we were a generation ago, and we're learning the same lessons that we learned.

00:02:13.200 Called you a nigger.

00:02:13.660 When we call the Chinese man a slant eye.

00:02:15.980 Nigger.

00:02:16.320 When we call the man from Guatemala a spick and a wetback.

00:02:19.080 When we call the black man a nigger.

00:02:20.820 A nigger.

00:02:21.280 That's what it tells me.

00:02:22.360 Nigger.

00:02:22.620 We got a ways to learn, but we can step back and say we're proud because I spoke this on CNN.

00:02:27.500 Nigger.

00:02:27.900 30 to 1, the emails I got.

00:02:29.840 Called you a nigger.

00:02:30.840 You speak for us, and we are not from Africa, and we're not from Norway.

00:02:34.480 We're from Italy, we're from Ireland, we're from Greece.

00:02:38.140 Every single one of them called you a nigger.

00:02:40.640 Say, hey, hashtag, I'm one of them.

00:03:04.480 I'm not a fan about the tears, but I'm a nagging fear.

00:03:10.500 Someone else is pulling up the streets, and something terrible is going down.

00:03:14.660 Through the entire town, making anarchy and all this brings.

00:03:18.060 I can't sit, I mean, no, I can't lose at all.

00:03:23.020 I trust the name, the one behind it all.

00:03:28.680 Discord, I'm out of the blue.

00:03:31.560 I'm sleeping at the middle of the summer afternoon.

00:03:34.720 Discord, whatever did we do.

00:03:37.100 We made you take our way.

00:03:38.800 Discord, whatever did we do.

00:04:08.780 We made you take our way away.

00:04:13.440 Discord, I'm out of the blue.

00:04:15.740 I'm sleeping at the middle of the summer afternoon.

00:04:19.000 Discord, whatever did we do.

00:04:21.280 We made you take our way away.

00:04:24.520 Discord, I will play a role.

00:04:26.820 You're all just a step inside, you're taking back and forth.

00:04:30.120 Discord, we won't take it anymore.

00:04:32.040 So take your tyranny away.

00:04:38.780 Discord, I'm out of the blue.

00:04:43.440 I'm sleeping at the middle of the summer afternoon.

00:05:02.260 Discord, whatever did we do.

00:05:05.080 To make you take our way away.

00:05:12.400 That he's never, ever elected.

00:05:14.920 And I would say that to the moderate Republicans, to the Republicans who reject this, to the conservative Republicans who reject this,

00:05:22.140 and to the whole spectrum of Americans who know that this is against our creed, I would say this is an opportunity for us to stand up and say who we are.

00:05:33.040 To be the country of the Statue of Liberty and not the country of Pepe the Frog.

00:05:38.080 Welcome to the Crypto Report.

00:05:40.980 Welcome to the Crypto Report.

00:05:41.000 Welcome to the Crypto Report.

00:06:08.080 Hey everybody, welcome back to the Crypto Report.

00:06:29.400 This is the edition of the Crypto Report for January 14th, 2018.

00:06:34.880 We've got a great show coming your way.

00:06:37.380 We have a great guest, Microchip.

00:06:40.640 And I just wanted to talk to the listeners a little bit and maybe go into some of what's been going on with the show and the direction that I may see it going.

00:06:52.840 The show, like myself, is not really going to change.

00:06:59.100 As I talked about both in the show with Ricky Vaughn and in the show somewhat with Thomas of Patriot Front,

00:07:11.320 and as you'll hear today, I've done a few less high energy shitposting shows because it just seems like we've come to a place in this movement where we need to kind of stop and reflect a little bit.

00:07:28.540 And that may have something to do with the stage of life that I'm in.

00:07:33.800 And, you know, last December I turned 51.

00:07:36.720 And when you get to this stage in your life where if you're looking at it like, you know, it's two chapters or whatever, where you've entered into this second chapter,

00:07:49.460 you kind of look back and you think about, you know, the things that you've done in your life and the things that worked and the things that didn't,

00:08:01.160 the things that you consider good accomplishments, the things that you consider mistakes, and kind of weigh it all out.

00:08:08.520 And, you know, this is where that old saying, middle-aged crazy comes from because, you know, it's kind of a, I don't think it's as big a thing now as it used to be,

00:08:17.920 but like when I was a kid, that was a real common saying.

00:08:21.240 The boomers, as they started entering middle age, were going middle-aged crazy.

00:08:26.340 There was even like a hit song by that name.

00:08:29.680 And it's basically where, you know, they've lived this life where they were just doing things

00:08:35.840 as they'd been told to and they'd never really like lived the way that they wanted to or whatever.

00:08:44.180 And suddenly, you know, the typical symptoms were, you know, the guy would turn 40 or 50 and he'd run out and buy a flashy red sports car

00:08:53.000 and a bunch of new clothes that looked more appropriate on a 20-year-old and, you know, get him a young girlfriend or whatever like that

00:09:03.380 because he was trying to recapture some kind of a youth.

00:09:06.460 And fortunately, I haven't had this syndrome.

00:09:09.680 I'm actually, I'm far more comfortable in my skin in my middle age than I ever was.

00:09:17.180 And I think this is because, you know, I've always been somewhat of a reflective person.

00:09:24.300 And in my youth and throughout my early adulthood up until about 11 years ago, I always had troubles on and off with substance abuse and so forth.

00:09:37.420 And for the last 10 years or so, it started off with, you know, the metamorphosis of becoming a sober individual.

00:09:45.980 And then, you know, shortly after that, once I kind of had my feet under me, not consciously like saying to myself, I need to make something of myself.

00:09:56.620 But just, you know, having this mindset where when the opportunity presented itself to me to make a difference, you know, I threw my hat in the ring and went and did that.

00:10:04.900 And it started off with the local government stuff that I did and then kind of spread into this, you know, the content creation and activism that I've been doing in the alt-right movement.

00:10:18.460 That is how you're all familiar with me.

00:10:22.340 And I was looking back on this stuff and, you know, I kind of see a synchronicity between my own life and what I've seen happen with this movement and everything.

00:10:34.900 And it's not something that I think is particular to me.

00:10:39.100 I think if any of you sit back and you look at your own life, you'll see this synchronicity between how things have worked out for yourself and how – and you'll see the symbolic similarities in the world around you.

00:10:55.500 And it seems like we have come to a point in this movement where at least maybe for just a minute we need to sit back and take stock and think about where we are, how we got here, the things we did that worked,

00:11:18.780 the things we did that didn't work, and maybe some ideas about what we need to do that we haven't done yet.

00:11:27.040 And so I brought on these guys.

00:11:31.880 And, you know, Ricky and Microchip, in my opinion, these guys both fit broadly the definition of alt-right.

00:11:41.020 Now, neither one of them may be like the neo-Nazi or ironic neo-Nazi or whatever shitlords that, you know, people like myself and the image that emanates from Daily Stormer and that sort of thing.

00:12:00.020 But they are alt-right, which makes them fellow travelers in a very close sense.

00:12:06.120 And these people, they're all coming at this from different directions.

00:12:10.060 And I think it's important that we take some time and sit back and listen and have really good, interactive, friendly conversations where we can discuss any topic and look at it from all angles without, you know,

00:12:29.540 trying to undermine the other person's argument or, you know, trying to get upset and being too rigid in our thought.

00:12:37.760 Now, as I'm saying that, I want to assure you all that I am not changing in any fundamental way.

00:12:47.300 I am still and always will be 100% 1488 GTKRWN.

00:12:54.240 I will always hold as the foremost precept in my philosophy that the Jewish problem is our foremost problem and that we need white countries for white people and that we need this pretty much to borrow a term from the left by any means necessary.

00:13:15.840 The thing is, what is the best way to affect this?

00:13:20.420 What is most likely and what are some bridges we can build to other people within the movement and maybe some on the periphery or just outside the movement that can help us?

00:13:35.480 Or is that even possible?

00:13:36.880 And so, you know, you've heard the conversation with Ricky Vaughn and today you're going to hear a conversation with myself and Microchip.

00:13:47.080 And I hope that everyone listening enjoys this conversation.

00:13:51.620 I know I certainly enjoyed having it.

00:13:53.660 And I hope that whether you agree with anything Chip said or that I said, that you come away from this with some maybe some new perspectives or some new ideas that even if you don't agree with them will perhaps spur you to come up with some new ideas of your own.

00:14:15.900 Some new tactics, some new strategies, some new strategies, because the thing is, we're all in this together because we want the same thing.

00:14:25.660 We want to win this for the future of white people and the future of our nations.

00:14:34.160 We want to build something that's going to last and leave behind something that's worth leaving behind.

00:14:40.200 Another thing I'd like to address is there's been a lot of talk about Charlottesville and the big marches and everything.

00:14:48.960 And I may have misspoken at one point when I said, I think, you know, I don't even remember which way I put it.

00:14:56.060 I may have said that I thought Charlottesville was overall a negative.

00:15:00.000 That's not exactly what I think.

00:15:02.100 I think that in the final analysis at this time, and of course, as I've said before, the final analysis is not all the way in.

00:15:09.600 And I think for the most part, in the final measuring of the thing, there was a lot more positive to it than there was negative to it.

00:15:20.420 The thing is, the stuff that's negative is so jarring and so hard to deal with that I don't see the way to go forward at this time with the big marches.

00:15:37.380 And don't get me wrong, I loved going and doing it.

00:15:41.400 And I really, really liked getting to meet all the folks out there, getting to show up and represent with another group of, or with a big group of fellow shitlords and nationalists and all that stuff.

00:15:58.720 But it's just not something that I think is doable at this time.

00:16:04.820 I don't think, you know, everything that we do has to be geared toward having a goal.

00:16:11.540 And that goal always has to be moving this thing forward.

00:16:15.220 I don't think that doing more of these at this time does that.

00:16:20.160 But, I'm not shitting on Charlottesville, the event.

00:16:27.040 So, I wanted to get that out there and get that clear.

00:16:31.060 But, yeah, anyway, like I said, you know, this show is going to be a little different.

00:16:37.000 These aren't the high-energy shitposting shows, which I promise we're getting right back to.

00:16:42.780 This is not like some phase where I'm going to change this into a right-wing version of, you know, some low-key PBS show or something like that.

00:16:52.560 Which, with Microchip, it wouldn't be that way anyway.

00:16:55.140 Microchip's really high energy.

00:16:57.180 We did a great show that I think you're going to be entertained by.

00:17:00.720 But, go ahead and check it out.

00:17:04.880 And, you know, let me know what you think in the comments section here on the BBS or on Gab.

00:17:11.280 And, we'll be back.

00:17:12.640 I don't know when the next show will be.

00:17:14.720 You're guaranteed a show every Sunday.

00:17:16.860 But, you know, if I come up with something that I feel like I need to talk about or a guest that I want to get on who's available before then,

00:17:25.060 we'll continue doing multiple shows a week.

00:17:27.440 But, like I say, guaranteed, the Crypto Report, every Sunday, hopefully, you know, consider the extra ones a bonus.

00:17:36.540 So, we're going to go ahead and take a break.

00:17:38.860 And, when we come back, we're going to have a conversation with the great Microchip.

00:17:47.720 You're listening to the Crypto Report.

00:17:50.720 We'll be right back after this break.

00:17:57.440 Hey kids, do you like racists?

00:18:22.420 Want me to trigger every liberal SJW who plays this?

00:18:26.180 Want to copy me and do exactly like I did?

00:18:28.880 Try the red pill and go further down the hole than my life is?

00:18:31.520 Niggers are dead.

00:18:32.320 Wait, I am trying to keep my moon straight.

00:18:34.340 But, I can't figure out which housing project I want to exterminate.

00:18:37.400 And, Dr. Duke said,

00:18:38.560 Oh, Moon Moon, you're a clansman.

00:18:40.080 Oh, yeah.

00:18:40.500 Snatch a Jew from his mansion and hold him for ransom.

00:18:42.800 Well, since age Jews, I felt like my screws were loose cause I hung the class neglect from the top branch with the news.

00:18:48.480 Got pissed off and ripped George Soros' dick off.

00:18:51.400 Bled so much a rabbi.

00:18:52.720 Sucked it and said mazel tov.

00:18:54.140 I fill a chamber with gas and kill the underclass faster than a fat Jew who got the cyclone too fast.

00:18:59.640 Time to die, bitch.

00:19:00.660 Moon Moon, wait.

00:19:01.360 That's Ted Cruz.

00:19:02.300 Dog.

00:19:02.600 I don't give a fuck.

00:19:03.640 God sent me to piss the Jews off.

00:19:05.260 My junior high Spanish teacher wanted this moon dick.

00:19:30.120 The only problem was, my Spanish teacher was a spick.

00:19:32.820 I called her a filthy little beaner, just a hotel cleaner, and called ICE to deport her and her family out of Pasadena.

00:19:38.840 Nuh, nuh, usta.

00:19:39.380 Walked in the fag club, started shooting the fags up, and didn't leave till the bodies were sterilized and fagged up.

00:19:45.060 Extraterrestrial cleaning Muslims out of Belgium.

00:19:47.480 Rape and feminists while they scream and refugees welcome.

00:19:50.180 99% of the Holocaust is a lie too.

00:19:52.900 I just found out that Jews killed more people than I do.

00:19:55.760 I told them I'd grow up to be a famous furor.

00:19:58.400 Rape and kill Merkel.

00:19:59.400 Then name a holiday after her murder.

00:20:01.160 Oh, danke.

00:20:01.480 You know you blew up when the frowline rushed your stance, and tried to touch your hands like some screamin' Hitler fans.

00:20:07.180 This guy at BuzzFeed asked for my interview.

00:20:09.300 Can I get your interview?

00:20:10.120 I said, dear Joe, you'll never work for the New York Times.

00:20:12.200 Serdy Jew.

00:20:12.560 Hi, my name is who?

00:20:14.620 My name is what?

00:20:15.800 My name is AKKK.

00:20:17.480 Imam.

00:20:18.180 Hi, my name is who?

00:20:20.240 My name is what?

00:20:21.420 My name is AKKK.

00:20:23.180 Imam.

00:20:23.840 Hi, my name is who?

00:20:25.800 My name is what?

00:20:26.960 My name is AKKK.

00:20:28.800 Imam.

00:20:29.400 Hi, my name is who?

00:20:31.080 My name is what?

00:20:32.380 My name is Heikeheikeheike

00:20:34.380 Stop the rape!

00:20:35.380 These dindus need to be locked away!

00:20:37.380 Dr. Meng Ali!

00:20:38.380 Don't just stand there!

00:20:39.380 Exterminate!

00:20:40.380 They'll never stop killing!

00:20:41.380 Till the minorities are gone, and whites start having babies, not Muhammad Shante or Deck One!

00:20:46.380 Am I a moon or a man?

00:20:47.380 I can barely decide!

00:20:49.380 I just killed a fifth of India with street shitter pesticide!

00:20:51.380 All my life I committed genocide!

00:20:53.380 To protect white America, and keep spreading that Aryan pride!

00:20:57.380 Moon man!

00:20:58.380 Able to leave blacks in a single bound, kill niggers without a sound!

00:21:01.380 I shoot anything that's brown!

00:21:03.380 I used to argue race with Africans that fuck goats!

00:21:05.380 How you gonna colonize the world you ain't got no boats!

00:21:08.380 I lay awake and scroll endlessly on pole!

00:21:10.380 With threads on mud shark madness!

00:21:12.380 White women that burn coal!

00:21:13.380 Race mixing's bad!

00:21:14.380 And by the way, when you see my denger tell him that I killed six million more in this dream I had!

00:21:19.380 Hi!

00:21:20.380 My name is who?

00:21:21.380 My name is what?

00:21:22.380 My name is heikeheikeike mean man!

00:21:25.380 Hi!

00:21:26.380 My name is who?

00:21:27.380 My name is what?

00:21:28.380 My name is heikeikeikeike mean man!

00:21:30.380 Hi!

00:21:31.380 My name is who?

00:21:32.380 My name is what?

00:21:33.380 My name is hehke heikeike mean man!

00:21:35.380 Hi!

00:21:36.380 Heik!

00:21:37.380 My name is who?

00:21:38.380 My name is what?

00:21:39.380 My name is heyke heikeike mean man!

00:21:42.380 Ha ha, ha, ha!

00:21:43.380 Ha ha, Eminem ain't got nothing on me, time to wake up, white America, shout out to emilyukkkz, 2017, year of the whitelash, moon man.

00:22:13.380 Welcome back to the Crypto Report.

00:22:33.540 We are back and we have, as promised, a great guest this week.

00:22:38.740 It's a guy I've been wanting to invite on for some time and it seemed like today was the day to do it.

00:22:45.160 I've been trying to expand the horizons of the Crypto Report somewhat and get some more diverse views, but still from a pro-white, right-wing perspective.

00:22:59.740 And we have a guy on today who is one of the biggest, most prolific shitposters on the internet.

00:23:07.280 I first ran across him, I don't know, a couple of years ago on Twitter.

00:23:12.060 And his enigmatic avatar of a model in a MAGA hat licking an ice cream cone is allegedly scientifically designed to get a certain reaction out of a viewer, as is everything that he does.

00:23:29.340 He's a very smart guy.

00:23:31.100 He's been featured in Politico several times.

00:23:34.540 He's been noticed by the merchant right in a not good way.

00:23:39.180 Here's a Politico had an article.

00:23:43.640 Online organizer tied to Trump Twitter room says he started petition to unify the right after Charlottesville.

00:23:51.080 And Jack Posobiec has noticed him and cried about, why does the mainstream media keep paying attention to microchip?

00:24:01.580 So now that I've said his name, welcome to the Crypto Report microchip.

00:24:05.400 How's it going?

00:24:06.840 Man, it's going great here.

00:24:08.420 I'm glad to have you on the show.

00:24:10.120 So I've got to say, you must be the most controversial guest to my listeners that I've had on, which is surprising to me, especially after having had Ricky Vaughn on.

00:24:24.140 And I knew that everybody was going to be really pissed about me having Ricky Vaughn on because people were not understanding what he was doing on Gab.

00:24:36.220 But of course, by the end of the show, there was a lot, you know, a lot more acceptance and understanding of what he was doing.

00:24:42.360 But man, I'm sure you probably looked in the hashtag that I put out there for people to ask questions, and they are really, really upset with having you on.

00:24:52.800 What's up with that?

00:24:53.680 Well, thank God.

00:24:54.380 That's what I aim for.

00:24:56.840 There's no other way to, in my opinion, to force change or get attention than by heightening emotions in a way that forces people to change their views.

00:25:09.280 I don't believe that rational talking or logical ideas do much.

00:25:15.800 Humans are, I think, are animals, and we work off of fear, desire to eat, sex, that type of thing.

00:25:26.540 And the only time that rational thought becomes something real to somebody is after they've emotionally accepted that and tied it into their system of thinking.

00:25:36.500 And so I don't think that I have the entire truth about how to change somebody's mind wrapped up.

00:25:47.360 I think I play a small part to that where I would expect somebody else to make the rational argument as I'm dumping fuel on a fire, right?

00:25:55.040 Well, I think that the plan, as you have laid it out there, apparently is working because, correct me if I'm wrong, but the type of thing that you're doing right now that you've been doing,

00:26:10.960 and I guess the best way to put this is I saw a post of yours a few weeks back, and it was one of many that you had put out like this,

00:26:20.460 but it basically said, I'm going to become a leftist now because the right wing or the alt-right or whatever is completely fucked.

00:26:29.660 And I could tell right away what you're doing is you're trying to piss these people off to get them out of, for lack of a better term,

00:26:38.900 their safe space that they've been in, where they're taking themselves so seriously,

00:26:43.280 and they're refusing to think in new ways as the situation changes.

00:26:48.720 Because we're dealing with a very fluid situation, and so many on the right wing, as in any sphere of politics, are operating from a fixed position.

00:27:03.280 They take themselves completely seriously.

00:27:05.800 They take their ideology as some type of a concrete thing that has existed from the beginning of time and will never change until the end of time.

00:27:14.280 And what my perception of this is, is that you're trying to jolt some of them out of that.

00:27:21.220 Right. So the idea is this, right?

00:27:22.820 So I did grow up as a Mormon in a cult, and that's what I call it now.

00:27:27.460 They'll argue differently that it's not, right?

00:27:30.120 And so the thing I saw as a child, you know, you believe in this insane religion where, you know,

00:27:36.140 you're going to become a god in heaven and build different planets and, you know,

00:27:39.580 basically shoot laser beams down and have kids for the rest of eternity, right?

00:27:43.600 And it sounds nice and great, and that's all perfect and stuff.

00:27:47.000 But then they also say that it's a never-changing system, right?

00:27:51.780 That there's no changes, right?

00:27:53.180 Well, I saw it right away in Mormonism where they decided to change their position on African-American folks back in the 70s, right?

00:28:01.280 Did we cut off?

00:28:02.820 No, we didn't.

00:28:03.380 Okay, good.

00:28:04.680 No, we're here.

00:28:05.540 Yeah, they did do that.

00:28:07.640 And they did that in response to government-

00:28:11.460 That's right.

00:28:11.920 Yeah, so they had to do it because otherwise they would have lost their tax-exempt status from what I gather.

00:28:18.140 Now, the tricky thing was is for them to say that there was a change.

00:28:23.160 They had to, they said that the prophet at the time had a new revelation, right?

00:28:27.540 And it's right there inside of something they called the Doctrine and Covenants where it says,

00:28:32.920 now we allow the African-Americans, blah, blah, blah, to be part of the community and leadership.

00:28:38.800 And that's all fine and dandy, but that type of switch right there,

00:28:43.100 I was smart enough to realize that this wasn't a non-changing system.

00:28:47.020 It always was in flux, but what they counted on was that people living in the day were either too afraid to accept that,

00:28:58.080 or they were stupid enough not to realize it.

00:29:00.180 They had no, you know, they didn't understand themselves enough or history enough to realize that this is a changing system.

00:29:07.100 Now, the reason I come at this right-wing stuff the way I do is partly because of that,

00:29:13.100 but also if you take a look at the extreme left and what they've done, these people are completely insane.

00:29:17.600 I mean, they're cutting the genitals off, they're turning their children gay,

00:29:21.940 and I don't necessarily hate these people.

00:29:25.120 The point is, is they're so involved in this ideology that they can't figure out,

00:29:32.580 and they don't see that they might be going insane, right?

00:29:35.100 Just like any cult would, where they start, you know, practicing polygamy or doing some weird shit like the Mormons do, right?

00:29:41.040 So, the same type of thing happens on the right, whether or not people want to accept that,

00:29:44.920 and we have kids now that go to 4chan, and they see a meme that is there just to gaslight people, right?

00:29:52.360 It has some information that's completely stupid, and they'll believe it right away.

00:29:55.580 Oh, this is the truth because I can't trust anybody, the government's shit,

00:29:58.860 the left is cutting off their genitals, we're right, and the world's going to end tomorrow.

00:30:01.780 This type of insanity on both extremes will eventually die, right?

00:30:06.860 That's just how it works with any ideology.

00:30:08.920 It becomes too extreme, too insane, and people finally start waking up, and it dies.

00:30:13.760 Mormonism right now, for example, their peak had 15 million members, they're dying.

00:30:18.660 Their numbers are dropping every day.

00:30:20.840 Scientology, same thing.

00:30:22.160 With any of these extreme cults, they don't stick.

00:30:24.520 Now, the argument could be made that, you know, we do extreme things, or we shout,

00:30:29.740 Hail Hitler in the street, because eventually that's going to push the Overton window,

00:30:34.120 despite how much resistance it gets.

00:30:36.920 The problem is that's not a long-term solution at all.

00:30:39.480 The long-term solution would be to kind of act like the Jews, which is terrible,

00:30:43.420 but to subvert the system, fit in, appeal to the general public,

00:30:47.540 and make them think that you have the right system.

00:30:50.000 And that's not going to happen by, it's like the Mormons saying,

00:30:53.920 just trust me, you can become a god, and you can create earth with laser beams.

00:30:58.680 Nobody believes that shit.

00:31:00.020 Right.

00:31:00.340 Well, and, you know, to back that point up, I mean,

00:31:03.940 that's not the first thing that they tell you when they try to convert you to the religion either.

00:31:08.760 And, but I hear what you're saying.

00:31:12.000 I mean, you know, some time has passed, several months have passed since Charlottesville,

00:31:16.660 and Charlottesville has been such, it's been the major defining event in the alt-right,

00:31:25.940 except maybe for the election of President Trump.

00:31:28.840 And it changed everything.

00:31:31.280 And it was the first one of these big rallies that I went to,

00:31:34.680 and I look back on it, and I look back at my own performance there, I guess you'd say.

00:31:42.040 And for the most part, I'm happy with it, but I'm torn about a couple of things here and there.

00:31:47.700 Now, of course, I'm not a person who is ever going to be running for political office

00:31:52.220 or trying to appear as, you know, Mr. Reasonable or anything like that.

00:31:58.000 I'm the guy who finds himself in a position in life that I can just say exactly what I think,

00:32:04.540 and that generally works for what I'm trying to do.

00:32:07.180 I'm off, I'm in that space you're talking about where, you know,

00:32:14.820 I'm taking a chainsaw to the right side of the Overton window.

00:32:18.360 But, you know, looking back on it, I definitely see some things that I could have done differently than I did.

00:32:24.900 And there just seems to be, like I said, people so entrenched in wanting to continue to do things the same way over and over.

00:32:37.580 For instance, even after the fallout from Charlottesville, there are lots of different people.

00:32:45.000 I'm not going to name anybody because, you know, I'm not trying to shame anybody or anything like that.

00:32:49.800 But there are people who just want to do the same thing over and over.

00:32:54.200 And they use, like, 70-year-old tactics or 70-year-old quotes as justification for doing it.

00:33:05.820 Like, you know, Goebbels quote where he says, he who owns the street owns the politics.

00:33:12.680 Now, that is a true quote.

00:33:14.640 But the thing is, what we're talking about here is what have become known as goon marches.

00:33:22.000 And when you go out and you get a permit to have a rally in some town that none of your members are from,

00:33:32.600 and you show up dressed like an invading army with a bunch of weird flags and stuff,

00:33:38.160 and you have police standing between you and a larger number of counter-protesters,

00:33:44.000 I do not see that as controlling the streets.

00:33:48.400 What I see that as is a whole bunch of bad PR from every angle.

00:33:52.480 You have the townspeople who wish you weren't there.

00:33:55.640 You have the mainstream media who is going to get their, you know, whatever slant on it that they want to get on it.

00:34:04.360 And that's why, like, myself and some other groups that I work with, you know, the Daily Stormer book clubs and Patriot Front and guys like that,

00:34:13.100 we have moved to what we call flash activism where, you know, we show up suddenly, we try to present well,

00:34:20.340 we have a thing that we do and we get on out of there.

00:34:22.560 We're not taking over anybody's town and things like that.

00:34:25.260 But I think the bigger picture here, and I think you'll agree with this, is, well, I know you will because of what you've just been saying,

00:34:37.700 is that we have to have people, and I think a lot of the Anons who are out there right now could easily become this.

00:34:45.880 We have to have people who are able to go to their city hall meetings or run for local office.

00:34:53.240 You know, people who go out and advocate for more nuanced positions so that we can get people in elected office

00:35:01.120 and we can get right-wing views heard in the public square, and no one's pointing out that,

00:35:08.400 hey, here you are in a photograph at a rally doing the Hitler salute and that kind of thing.

00:35:17.000 So let me, if I go over a short history on how I view this stuff,

00:35:22.860 because this will make sense, and I've talked about this before,

00:35:26.140 and this is one thing out of everything that I was being serious about, right?

00:35:31.100 So anyways, if you take a look at what I would say these extremist ideas, right, in America,

00:35:36.680 and if we just step back and we say, let's go back to the 1800s, right, and I'll go back to Mormonism again.

00:35:42.740 In their history, they had, you know, their first prophet, Joseph Smith, and he was completely insane.

00:35:49.900 They started doing things that required the state of Missouri to issue, I think it was Missouri Executive Order 31 or 33,

00:35:58.520 something like that, and it was basically an execution order for Mormons, right,

00:36:01.900 where you go out and you could kill them because of what they were doing.

00:36:04.780 So they fled, obviously.

00:36:07.340 They came and settled in the West, and they were doing some insane shit.

00:36:10.400 They had a new alphabet developed.

00:36:12.620 They were developing their own language that they planned on using.

00:36:15.980 They planned on, you know, indoctrinating hundreds of children that they had

00:36:19.900 into this weird idea that they were supposed to take over and inherit the USA

00:36:24.980 and basically murder everybody that talked bad about their prophet, right?

00:36:30.200 That didn't work out so well.

00:36:32.000 The U.S. military came over, started harassing them, and they eventually backed off.

00:36:37.520 That's the same type of thing that I think we're seeing now.

00:36:40.680 It doesn't, maybe it works in Germany, maybe it'll work somebody else.

00:36:43.560 Maybe it would have worked for Hitler had it not been for the Jews, but it sure didn't work in the end.

00:36:48.220 But in the USA, I don't see that ever working.

00:36:51.400 Eventually, those types of extremist groups are going to be executed by the government,

00:36:56.920 put in prison, or they'll just dissipate, and it'll turn into a terrible meme,

00:37:02.560 and somebody laughs at it.

00:37:03.820 Why did you even think about that, right?

00:37:05.200 This has happened over and over and over to cult groups.

00:37:07.740 And I see this happening in the right wing.

00:37:09.360 I see it becoming this weird cult that's based on things that aren't even close to reality.

00:37:16.540 And I bet you some of these kids, if they could, they'd want to invent their own language and alphabet,

00:37:20.080 like the Mormons were doing, because the alphabet we use is some Jewish conspiracy or something, right?

00:37:25.980 And so the idea is, if you can't do it that way, how are some of these cults surviving?

00:37:31.940 How did some of these cults survive?

00:37:33.140 And if we take a look at, from the 1800s, the cults that were out there, the religious cults,

00:37:38.820 Mormonism, out of all the social orders that were for, you know, pro-Christianity,

00:37:43.400 Mormonism thrived and they survived.

00:37:45.400 One of the reasons they did is because they decided to change.

00:37:48.240 They decided to say, oh, hey, we have to actually become elected officials.

00:37:52.160 We have to not say stupid shit, crazy ass stuff in the streets.

00:37:56.840 We can't expose what we do inside the temples, because if we do, people are going to think we're insane

00:38:01.140 and part of the Illuminati, which I don't believe, but if there is an Illuminati, they probably are.

00:38:06.760 So it's stuff like that that you say, okay, what have these groups done that were successful?

00:38:10.920 Scientology did sort of the same thing.

00:38:12.260 You don't really know what goes on in their weird secret meetings, but on the face, it looks like,

00:38:17.380 oh, we're just going to help you be more positive in life by running this orb weird thing on you, right?

00:38:21.980 Same type of thing with Mormonism.

00:38:23.340 It's called milk before the meat, and it's what every successful cult does until it's too fucking insane

00:38:29.740 and too many people know what's really going on, and everybody runs, right?

00:38:33.320 Yeah.

00:38:33.520 So this idea that you're going to have this fire and fury, no, you're going to be shot by the military.

00:38:38.720 That's what it's going to end up like if you keep doing it this way.

00:38:40.940 This isn't the way you do it.

00:38:42.000 Yeah, I agree with most of what you said there, and the thing is, you get in a bubble.

00:38:52.920 I think that's what really gets people into this mind space that we're talking about is

00:38:59.060 you get in this bubble where, and the internet really accelerates this because everybody has

00:39:05.880 their own place to go now, which is great, but you can go to a place where everybody is

00:39:13.340 just echoing the same thing and amplifying it back at you, and you get in a place where

00:39:19.400 you're not really in reality because, and I know I've gotten this way before too, because

00:39:25.860 you're in some kind of a really edgy movement, and your entire life online is people agreeing

00:39:33.160 with that and otherizing anybody who doesn't agree with it, which is a good thing in a sense

00:39:40.660 because you want to otherize the people that are opposed to you.

00:39:43.900 But you don't want to do it to the point that you, as a member of an edgy movement, think

00:39:50.320 that, well, everybody agrees with me, and it's the outsider who doesn't agree with me.

00:39:56.340 It's, you know, to the point that you would go, it's almost like people think, and here's

00:40:05.620 where the disconnect is, people think that this stuff is so, like that I do and everything

00:40:10.840 is so mainstream that they can just, should be able to just walk out in public and like

00:40:17.380 say, hey, how about gas them kayaks, you know, and that's really not the way it is, and on

00:40:22.500 a certain level, they know that's not the way it is because if they were doing that,

00:40:26.920 like if they were going to work or going to church or going to school or whatever and

00:40:31.000 just saying, gas the kayaks, they would all be all over the news, and lots of them would

00:40:34.640 be in jail, and so they're not doing that, but they're advocating for that kind of thing

00:40:39.680 online, and I'm the first person to tell you, and I'm honest about this, that, you know,

00:40:44.840 the Jewish problem is the, in my opinion, the chief problem that we have.

00:40:49.620 It's the biggest roadblock that we have, and eventually something has to be done about

00:40:53.920 it.

00:40:54.140 These people have to move to Israel or something, and, you know, or we'll never be able to have

00:41:03.280 long-term solutions to our problems.

00:41:05.380 They may not be the cause of every problem that we have, but they're the chief roadblock

00:41:10.680 to us solving any of them, and, but you're not going to solve these problems by throwing

00:41:17.600 on a brown shirt uniform and marching up and down the street with a swastika flag advocating

00:41:23.820 for gas chambers, and that's why, you know, it's confusing, and it's confusing to me too

00:41:30.460 because, to try to explain, because I do admire Adolf Hitler, and I admire the national socialists

00:41:39.100 of 1930s and 1940s Germany, but I'm an American, and, you know, the, the socialist, the economic

00:41:48.180 socialist aspects of their platform is something that's never appealed to me.

00:41:52.700 I've always wanted American nationalism, and during the heady days of the presidential campaign,

00:42:00.620 when you would see these basic bitch conservatives who, you know, at whatever point they had

00:42:08.820 to come to Jesus about it and say, okay, Trump's the nominee, we're going to support him, when

00:42:13.460 they started actually taking that on and they started talking about American nationalism,

00:42:17.880 they were defining it as, okay, American nationalism means, and they basically laid out the civic

00:42:24.920 nationalism platform, you know, well, it doesn't matter where anybody comes from so long

00:42:29.240 as we teach them the Constitution, they'll all be budding Thomas Jeffersons, you know,

00:42:34.260 we just got to bring them in legally, and I was advocating for, no, American nationalism

00:42:39.240 is what the founders laid out, it's what everybody in this country up until, you know, the post-World

00:42:45.260 War II era understood is that America is a white nation, it's made for white European peoples,

00:42:51.400 and that we have, you know, these principles that are laid out in the Constitution are great,

00:42:56.080 they are the things that we differed with other white Europeans about, but they are secondary

00:43:02.920 to the fact that this is a nation for a specific people, and there was a lot of blowback on that,

00:43:09.680 the world was not ready for it, and of course, as you may know, the thing that spurred us,

00:43:15.440 and it was Anglin who first got the Eureka moment, the thing that spurred us to start really pushing

00:43:25.240 this type of American nationalism was the Take a Knee movement, which is just one of those things

00:43:32.760 that just happened to happen that set off this big deal where, you know, the black football players

00:43:39.380 decided to take a knee during the national anthem to protest America, basically, and if that had been

00:43:46.160 all that had happened, it wouldn't have been enough, but all these Jewish journalists basically

00:43:52.620 handed America back to us, they started writing these articles saying, well, you know, we always have

00:43:57.580 tried to pretend that America was for everybody, that it was this egalitarian civic nation, but it

00:44:07.340 really is rooted in white supremacy, and it was founded in white supremacy and all this, and we're

00:44:13.960 like, yes, now's the time for this, and what I basically want is I want that nation that our founders

00:44:23.680 envisioned, because as I've always said, if you could go with a time machine, if you could bring

00:44:28.240 the guys who signed the Declaration of Independence, just bring them here today, and give them a couple

00:44:35.980 of days to absorb what's going on, they would demand another revolution, would they not?

00:44:40.820 I think they would, yep.

00:44:41.740 I mean, this is, I can't imagine somebody going and explaining to Thomas Jefferson or George Washington

00:44:51.440 why we gave blacks the vote, for example.

00:44:54.780 Sure.

00:44:55.780 Yep, and I would argue the same thing.

00:44:57.540 The thing about this is this, when I'm talking about some of these subjects, I'm not saying that

00:45:03.180 people shouldn't have those views, or that they can't have those views, what it is is this, right?

00:45:08.440 I think it should be something where, if that's what the idea is, that's what you want to accomplish

00:45:13.140 is this American nationalism, which is totally fine, and I agree, I think it should be like that,

00:45:17.280 not only for, well, just for the idea of being safe, because mixing cultures and races doesn't

00:45:24.240 work very well.

00:45:25.620 There's no proof that it ever has, unless you want to get insane like, you know, Sargon does

00:45:31.100 and pretend like nothing's real, but we're not going to do that.

00:45:33.700 So, anyways, the point is, there's got to be a way to make this happen, where, and I'll

00:45:41.540 give you an example again, and it comes back to cults, where the insane shit that happens,

00:45:45.640 nobody sees, but they believe it at the top, and you will never hear about it, you will only hear

00:45:50.780 about it once you're trusted and indoctrinated into it, right?

00:45:54.920 Right.

00:45:55.540 And I just don't see that happening.

00:45:57.060 That's the only problem I have with this, is I'm not saying that we cannot, that you cannot

00:46:01.300 believe that, you know, I love Hitler, and I want all, you know, non-white people out,

00:46:06.440 and I'm not saying you're saying that, but that idea is not going to work with the public,

00:46:11.160 they don't see it that way.

00:46:12.220 Right.

00:46:12.660 The majority of people are scared, so the only way to do it is to bring them in and,

00:46:17.100 you know, feed them little morsels here and there, be nice, and then once they can be

00:46:21.320 trusted with information, you then advance them to the next level and say, here's this

00:46:25.500 bomb, what are you going to do next?

00:46:27.100 And if they decide to chew more and eat more, then eventually they're at the top, and they're

00:46:30.680 saying, yeah, this is really the idea.

00:46:32.960 Unfortunately, we can't say it, but we can subvert the society that we're living in and make

00:46:37.000 it seem like we're doing nothing, right?

00:46:38.600 Yeah.

00:46:38.860 So, that would work.

00:46:40.520 Right, but it's a difficult balance to strike, though, isn't it?

00:46:43.480 Because, especially, you know, prior to the election cycle, the Overton window has been

00:46:52.280 shifted so far left, and not just recently.

00:46:55.480 You know, everybody wants to lay it all on Obama, and of course, he had a lot to do with

00:46:59.240 shifting it a lot further left, but it's been going on for decades.

00:47:03.620 And the Overton window is so far left that, you know, there are, I think, without something

00:47:11.400 like Daily Stormer and, you know, some other parts of the alt-right movement like TRS, especially,

00:47:18.420 you know, Daily Show and Fashion Nation, those guys, very thoughtful guys, who are out there

00:47:24.880 openly, you know, of course, ironically most of the time, but openly, you know, with the

00:47:31.040 gas, the kayaks, and the oven mitts, and all that, and the Daily Stormer with its ironic

00:47:36.320 neo-Nazism and all that.

00:47:37.960 People have been hungry for that stuff, and to a great extent, that stuff was, is, and

00:47:45.780 will be, for the foreseeable future, extremely necessary, because you've got to have a vanguard

00:47:52.420 of people out there who are just telling it like it is, and laying it all out on the line,

00:47:57.620 and in a lot of ways, taking the heat for the people who aren't going to say that stuff.

00:48:03.760 Because, you know, it energizes the people who have been sitting at home going, you know,

00:48:09.780 I must be the only person in the world who looks at all this and is sickened by it, and

00:48:15.080 who has these ideas, like, you know, the whole, I think, and it's not mentioned often enough,

00:48:23.860 but I think one of the biggest things that has really had a foundational motivation for

00:48:34.340 this movement was that documentary called The Greatest Story Never Told, where they went

00:48:39.400 and basically chopped up other documentaries and presented them in a more historically

00:48:46.040 accurate fashion, where they're like, you know, all this stuff from World War II that

00:48:50.480 your entire society is based on, you've been lied to about every bit of it, and here's what

00:48:54.860 actually happened.

00:48:56.780 And, you know, that's going to bring out this stuff in people, and people are still inspired

00:49:02.840 by all the things that happened back then.

00:49:06.500 And, like I said, we're just in a real confusing place, and I agree with you that I don't believe

00:49:13.560 that, and I don't know that it's even the thing that I would desire, I don't believe that

00:49:18.200 we're ever going to have, like, this massive new, you know, NSDAP-type movement in America.

00:49:27.520 I know we're not.

00:49:28.420 You know, we're not going to have 90% of the whites saying, okay, you know, Hitler was right,

00:49:36.160 and we're all going to put on these uniforms, we're going to start practicing all the points

00:49:42.060 of the party platform, and this and that.

00:49:45.380 It's not going to work that way.

00:49:47.140 We're Americans, and we have our own unique culture and history, and what we have to do

00:49:52.660 is we have to appeal to that, and that's what appeals to me anyway.

00:49:57.340 I mean, I'm in this for America.

00:49:59.780 I'm not in this for, you know, some weird new thing, and you've got all these people

00:50:06.180 with all their ideas, well, we're all going to move to the Pacific Northwest, or we're going

00:50:10.060 to chop the country up into pieces and have our own little ethnostates here and there

00:50:15.320 and all that.

00:50:16.240 I'm not for that.

00:50:17.340 What I'm in this for is a long-term movement where we educate the masses, we hone our message,

00:50:26.820 and we get people elected, we get legislation passed, and eventually we can reverse a lot

00:50:33.960 of this stuff.

00:50:34.720 I mean, what is the alternative to that?

00:50:37.520 The only alternative to something like that is, you know, this crazy idea about armed

00:50:45.940 revolution, and people have been talking about that crap forever.

00:50:51.200 I mean, the last real armed revolution that we had that was successful happened over 200

00:50:56.780 years ago, and there were a lot of variables that were involved in that that will never

00:51:03.120 happen again.

00:51:04.040 You know, we're not separated by a months-long ocean voyage from the power that we would be

00:51:11.180 fighting against.

00:51:12.120 We have all this massive surveillance, this huge police state, this huge military-industrial

00:51:17.520 complex.

00:51:18.560 We don't have any people in the movement who are in that military-industrial complex, and

00:51:23.860 if we did, and they tried anything, they'd be drummed out of it so fast that it would make

00:51:28.660 their head spin.

00:51:31.500 And we just don't want that.

00:51:33.740 I mean, we're in a place right now that any of these, you know, a country like the United

00:51:38.320 States, if it descended into civil war, you would just basically end up with one of these

00:51:43.020 apocalypse movies.

00:51:44.800 Yep.

00:51:45.560 And the thing about that, Az, is this, right?

00:51:48.520 So if I take a look at it from both, and it's not really an extreme, but my idea, my ideal

00:51:55.320 would be that everybody smartens up and pretends like nothing is there.

00:52:00.140 And then everybody just has this complete subversive attitude of taking over the whole

00:52:06.240 thing by pretending that they're not who they say they are.

00:52:09.000 Now, that's not going to happen.

00:52:10.600 And I've thought about this a lot where I say, you know, if people could just do this,

00:52:15.380 then it would work.

00:52:16.000 That's great.

00:52:16.440 But that's an ideal.

00:52:17.720 And it's not going to happen.

00:52:19.220 When the other extreme of that is saying that there's an armed revolution, that's not

00:52:23.100 going to happen either.

00:52:23.780 So the thing we've not seen happen in the U.S. yet that I know of, right, off the top

00:52:28.580 of my head is I've seen my thing happen with Mormonism, with Scientology, with other things.

00:52:33.440 You've seen the extreme revolutions happen.

00:52:36.000 It's, as you've agreed, it's not likely that it's going to happen now.

00:52:39.600 So are we in a point right now where the things like England's Daily Stormer and all these

00:52:46.900 other sites where they're just putting out a lot of ironic information, which is great.

00:52:51.680 I love it, right?

00:52:52.580 Is this something totally new and is this the way that it actually works this time where

00:52:58.660 if we keep the pressure on society, we can shift the Overton window back and we've just

00:53:02.320 not seen it happen like this before because this is a totally new invention.

00:53:05.900 That could be the case.

00:53:07.440 And I don't see it happening any other way given what the right is right now.

00:53:11.280 We don't have any other choice.

00:53:13.280 So my idea would be how do we make that happen more than, right?

00:53:18.320 How could we amplify the Daily Stormer so that it causes more problems and people take

00:53:26.220 it more seriously and start thinking about what is actually going on, right?

00:53:29.820 Is that the case?

00:53:30.920 Is that where we're at right now, where we're bridging a whole new gap in social engineering,

00:53:34.980 let's say?

00:53:35.580 Well, I think it is to a great extent.

00:53:38.640 And I think that it's the first thing in forever that's worked.

00:53:45.480 And it is a whole brand new thing.

00:53:47.700 You know, I'm an old guy.

00:53:48.920 For this movement, I'm Methuselah.

00:53:51.140 I'm 51 years old.

00:53:53.280 And when Daily Stormer came around, when I first noticed it, it was like this brand new

00:53:59.100 thing.

00:53:59.800 And there had been, you know, leading up to the term alt-right becoming popular, which

00:54:05.880 really, I mean, everybody talks about, oh, you know, Spencer invented the term in 2008

00:54:10.480 or whatever, but the reality is the vast majority of people never heard of the term before it

00:54:17.120 got popularized during the movement's huge and rapid rise during the Trump campaign.

00:54:24.200 And the genesis of the rise of that movement, there were several groundbreaking things.

00:54:32.240 One of them was the whole white genocide thing that came out of the Bugser movement.

00:54:37.900 You know, that was the thing that, you know, I had gotten my start in activism, doing local

00:54:46.000 government activism.

00:54:47.900 Back in like 2011, 2012, I worked on a local government watchdog website.

00:54:55.320 And when I came to it, the guys at it, they were doing a great job.

00:55:00.780 But for the most part, they were doing it the way these things had always been done.

00:55:05.360 You know, it was a lot of dry legal commentary on how, what they were doing at city hall was

00:55:10.620 completely against the government code and that kind of thing.

00:55:15.740 And it didn't seem to me like it was going to go a long way, but, but like I said, they

00:55:19.180 were doing really good work and I got involved with them and I guess without really having

00:55:24.040 thought about it, I just instinctively started trolling the people at city hall to like 24

00:55:29.800 seven and the other guys were doing the same thing.

00:55:33.260 Now we were doing lots of other stuff in conjunction with that.

00:55:36.000 We were raining paper on them, you know, filing complaints and getting the media involved.

00:55:40.760 We got in the local media a lot.

00:55:42.360 And when it was all said and done, we just completely won.

00:55:46.540 We got every one of the bastards at city hall thrown out on their ear and got our, our people

00:55:51.740 in there, got the police chief fired, got a new police chief, a whole different police

00:55:56.000 department and they, of course it wasn't perfect.

00:56:00.260 It was government.

00:56:01.180 So nothing's ever going to be perfect, but it, it was good enough that like five years

00:56:07.100 later, six years later, I'm not worried about the local government anymore.

00:56:12.100 You know, I mean, I watch them, but there's no activism to do there now.

00:56:16.840 And, um, so when I saw, uh, the bugs are movement, when that was, that was over and I first ran

00:56:24.360 across the white genocide thing and read the mantra and all, I was like, yeah, there is

00:56:30.000 a way to do this because I'd been watching these movements for decades and I had always

00:56:35.700 been a pro white racist type who didn't like the way the, I mean, ever since I was a teenager,

00:56:41.160 I didn't like the way the country was headed.

00:56:43.020 I didn't like the immigration stuff.

00:56:45.660 I, I, you know, every opportunity that I had to see David Duke on the television or hear

00:56:51.520 him on the radio or whatever, I would take it.

00:56:53.820 And I always agreed with him, but I didn't like the things that I, that I would see as

00:56:58.480 far as like these new movements that were coming along in the late eighties and throughout

00:57:03.660 the nineties, you know, the neo-Nazi skinhead movements and all these were things that I

00:57:07.540 didn't want to be involved in because I didn't feel they'd work.

00:57:10.820 And so, uh, when I saw the bugs or thing, I was like, yeah, this gives me a little hope.

00:57:16.940 And so I had started doing my own, um, uh, website and my own, uh, radio show, which was

00:57:26.320 called hidden mysteries radio.

00:57:28.380 And then the daily stormer came to my attention.

00:57:33.040 I think it came to my attention in 2014.

00:57:35.280 It had been around since some point in 2013.

00:57:37.600 And I saw that and I was like, oh yeah.

00:57:41.140 And I had never seen anything like it before, even with all the, the, uh, Nazi tropes and

00:57:47.080 everything.

00:57:47.400 It was so intelligent and so funny.

00:57:49.480 That was the main thing.

00:57:51.320 And so you have this dichotomy of, you've got all that stuff out there and you're completely

00:57:57.700 triggering normies.

00:57:59.060 But because you're funny and smart, every time you trigger normies, especially when they're

00:58:06.280 media normies, it works to your advantage.

00:58:09.440 And, and that's been one of the chief advantages that I have is that as part of daily stormer,

00:58:14.480 like when I go out in Houston and I get the local media and the national media sticking

00:58:19.600 microphones in my face and throwing gotcha questions at me, they'll say, well, what do

00:58:23.340 you think of you, you support Trump, but what do you think of Jared Kushner?

00:58:27.480 And I'm like, well, gas him.

00:58:29.060 And the, you know, that stuff goes all over the media and it works for me because it, it

00:58:33.720 brings attention over to daily stormer and it gets this idea out on the table that, you

00:58:40.920 know, what you're being told is not necessarily the only thing out there.

00:58:45.120 And like I said, I'm not running for office, so it works for me.

00:58:48.840 No.

00:58:48.940 And maybe it's, maybe it's just that as the thing is, is I, uh, I mean, some of the stuff

00:58:53.960 could be a product of impatience on either side, right?

00:58:57.600 On my side of saying, just act normal and lie to people, lie to everyone until you're

00:59:02.240 in power and then unleash hell, right?

00:59:04.320 That, that, that's probably me being impatient because that's the way I've seen it work.

00:59:07.860 Just as impatient as other people say, well, let's just start a revolution and kill everyone,

00:59:11.640 which is a terrible idea and would never work.

00:59:13.740 So both of those sides wouldn't work.

00:59:15.740 What is working?

00:59:16.940 And it's a slow process.

00:59:18.460 It seems right.

00:59:19.480 It's slower than I'd like it to be is this whole idea of what the daily storm is doing.

00:59:23.880 Some of the stuff I've done, a lot of stuff you guys have done is just basically full throttle

00:59:28.780 trolling, um, getting people emotional, grabbing attentions, grabbing headlines, uh, ruining

00:59:34.780 social media platforms like Twitter so that they have to address it and have to bring up our

00:59:39.220 names and have to talk about it.

00:59:40.580 It seems to be working.

00:59:41.820 The only fear I have in this whole thing is, um, what do we do next?

00:59:45.280 Right.

00:59:45.520 If we take over, do we just, I mean, not really take over, but if this, if this calms the storm

00:59:50.700 of the left, what happens next?

00:59:52.720 Who is the next guy that's going to subvert the whole thing and then start doing weird

00:59:56.100 shit again?

00:59:56.480 Right.

00:59:57.160 Um, that, that's, that's the only drawback I have on this.

01:00:00.740 What is the, we control all day long.

01:00:03.800 Eventually we win.

01:00:04.920 What's, what do we do next?

01:00:06.800 What's your ideas on that?

01:00:07.700 Well, to be honest with you, uh, I try not to think too much about that because, okay.

01:00:15.520 Well, I mean, maybe it's not necessary.

01:00:17.940 Well, yeah, well, it may be necessary, but from my viewpoint, and this could be, you know,

01:00:24.340 due to my own limitations, you know, there's a, there's an old saying, a good man always

01:00:28.720 knows his limitations, but, uh, this is something that I've thought about my whole life and you

01:00:36.080 always see it.

01:00:37.260 It always happens when, especially when you're talking about, you know, people in high elected

01:00:43.040 office, you always get these people who are, who run on the platform of, we know what you're

01:00:48.060 pissed off about.

01:00:48.960 You're pissed off because you keep electing people who say they're going to do X, but

01:00:54.200 they do Y just like the last guys did.

01:00:56.840 And then they get in there and they don't do X, they do Y.

01:01:00.260 And right now we're on another cycle of that, that it, it is yet to be seen if this cycle

01:01:09.380 is going to complete the same way, because, you know, we've got Trump in there and, uh,

01:01:14.220 even though he's been disappointing in a lot of ways, he's also, it looks like he's going

01:01:20.500 to try to do a lot of the X things that he ran on.

01:01:25.460 Uh, whether he, you know, even if he's not successful in doing it, if he gives, you know,

01:01:30.820 a real full bore effort to do it, then we've made, we've gained a lot of ground and we gained

01:01:36.180 a lot of ground just by getting a guy elected who said the things that he said.

01:01:41.340 But this, this, this goes to fluidity.

01:01:45.320 I mean, you know, you've seen this throughout history and it's the same in a lot of ways every

01:01:50.880 time it happens, but it's different people and different issues for the most part.

01:01:55.460 And so, you know, I'm not a fortune teller.

01:01:58.620 I can't say, you know, what are we going to do if we get, if like, if we finally, if we

01:02:04.260 got people in there who said, who ran on a platform of I'm totally 1488 and I'm going

01:02:09.920 to get in there and we're going to stop all non-white immigration and we're going to start

01:02:14.560 deporting, uh, all the illegals and we're going to, uh, just throw the borders open for

01:02:22.360 people from white countries and things like that.

01:02:24.660 We're going to encourage, we're going to put the full weight of the government behind

01:02:29.200 encouraging white families or white people to get married and, and have babies and all

01:02:34.340 this other stuff.

01:02:35.480 And then they get in there and they're like, whoops, the Jews own me or something like that.

01:02:42.880 You know, I don't, I can't tell you now what we should do at that time.

01:02:47.560 And what we have to do is we have to be, uh, fluid and mutable.

01:02:52.540 We cannot be rigid.

01:02:54.360 And, um, and as far as the, the trolling thing goes, that's so important.

01:03:01.000 And it seems to be a thing that has been waning since the election, uh, at least on the part

01:03:07.340 of people that I see on social media.

01:03:10.140 And I can never stress enough how important all this trolling on social media is, is that

01:03:16.700 we need to get out there and engage with the other side.

01:03:20.560 And there are, you know, so many aspects to the other side.

01:03:23.300 You've got the far left liberals and you've got the civic nationalist cucks and all that.

01:03:29.600 And one thing that I've noticed is that since the election, there are so many people who don't

01:03:34.300 want to do that.

01:03:35.080 And especially like over on Gab, you know, every time you see that, uh, you know, there's

01:03:41.920 been this, uh, big wave of people coming over from Twitter, uh, you know, all the people like,

01:03:47.160 oh my God, they're not 1488ers.

01:03:49.180 I want them to go away.

01:03:50.160 I want them to go in.

01:03:50.840 I'm like, no, we need people to troll.

01:03:53.220 We need to be engaging with these people.

01:03:55.180 Right.

01:03:56.500 Because that, that's what works.

01:03:59.140 And, and the thing that I think is the disconnect with people.

01:04:02.100 And, and I must tell somebody this every day when, because like I'll be having some kind

01:04:08.540 of a, uh, flame war with either a leftist or since I'm on, you know, relegated to Gab

01:04:14.620 now more often with, you know, a cuck, a cuckervative type, I'm not trying to convince

01:04:21.160 that person of anything I'm taking, you know, they, they want to come along and say, as you're

01:04:25.860 wasting your time on this guy, he's stupid.

01:04:28.380 He's never going to get it.

01:04:29.680 And all that, that that's not the point.

01:04:32.100 You don't debate the other side to convince the person you're debating.

01:04:37.420 I, obviously I know I'm not going to convince this person.

01:04:40.580 He's, it's not very likely anyway, he's invested enough in his beliefs that he's going to defend

01:04:47.460 them no matter how stupid I make him look.

01:04:50.280 Uh, what I am doing is I am putting on an exposition of these ideas for everybody who's

01:04:57.180 watching.

01:04:58.000 Yep.

01:04:58.480 And a lot of the people who are watching, even if they, even if their, uh, mind is not

01:05:04.460 changed right that minute, it's going to plant a seed in there.

01:05:07.040 That's right.

01:05:07.400 And if, and if other people will come along in the ensuing time after that and fertilize

01:05:15.020 that seed with more ideas and more trolling and more debating, that's how you really make

01:05:20.300 a change, uh, in people's viewpoints.

01:05:23.680 You don't do it just one-on-one.

01:05:26.540 I mean, of course, like if you're trying to get people to vote for a particular candidate,

01:05:30.700 yeah, you go knock on doors, you try to talk to them about the issues one-on-one, but we're

01:05:34.820 talking about a sea change in people's, not just their consciousness, but their subconscious.

01:05:41.680 Yep.

01:05:41.900 Because we've had, like, like we've said, we've had decades and decades of this indoctrination

01:05:47.720 through the media and the public school system and academia and, and, and top down from the

01:05:54.040 government that we had, and that's what we have to fight.

01:05:57.180 And it's a huge fight.

01:05:58.660 And, uh, and I agree with Weave.

01:06:00.560 I mean, we've said, uh, recently that the most important thing we can possibly do is online

01:06:08.180 shit posting.

01:06:09.000 Yeah, no, and that's that, maybe that's where I veered off on the wrong path on this

01:06:13.480 ass.

01:06:13.700 Cause I'm not, I'm not, I'm not the type of guy that's going to say I'm a hundred percent

01:06:17.180 right on this because otherwise I'd just be an asshole like everyone else.

01:06:20.260 Uh, not you, but I'm talking about people on the merchant right and otherwise.

01:06:23.440 So the idea I had since the election is eventually this gaslighting and, and shitposting and trolling

01:06:28.920 will die out.

01:06:29.840 Right.

01:06:30.100 And maybe I'm totally wrong.

01:06:31.800 And it seems like nothing else will, nothing else has worked yet since that.

01:06:36.680 Right.

01:06:37.220 Um, some people gave it up.

01:06:38.860 Some people want to start a movement.

01:06:40.220 You got Ricky Vaughn that's trying to do, uh, his idea with, you know, maybe mimicking

01:06:45.140 the social Democrats and things like that, the socialist party, whatever you call it.

01:06:49.100 Um, and then I've, I've struggled with this idea to say, okay, maybe we have to make this

01:06:53.560 into something real.

01:06:54.440 Maybe we don't, it seemed to work.

01:06:56.300 Okay.

01:06:56.620 So far.

01:06:57.140 I mean, we even have governments like Poland saying, have more, have more babies.

01:07:01.160 Right.

01:07:01.620 I mean, we, uh, some of the shit is actually going mainstream.

01:07:05.920 It all is.

01:07:06.680 Right.

01:07:07.020 And maybe that's just it, that this gaslighting and stuff doesn't ever die out, even though

01:07:11.520 I expected it to, that eventually people would get tired of it, but they sure as shit

01:07:15.480 happened.

01:07:15.780 I mean, you have Trump just saying the shithole remark recently and everybody just started

01:07:20.380 screaming and yelling again.

01:07:21.780 It's never ending.

01:07:22.860 Right.

01:07:23.460 Um, and maybe that's something that if it works, why kill it?

01:07:26.920 Because there's no need to right now and we don't need a next step, right?

01:07:30.280 It's worked so far.

01:07:31.440 Right.

01:07:31.840 And well, and the thing is, uh, and not to counter signal you here, we need all of these

01:07:37.280 things and we can't have any, I mean, no particular person can be everything to everybody.

01:07:44.240 And I think that especially given at this point in time, uh, the vast majority of people

01:07:52.060 in this movement probably just should stick to anonymous online shit posts.

01:07:56.920 Now we, we definitely, um, there, there's a lot that you can do IRL.

01:08:02.720 Like, you know, we're, we're, uh, gearing up to have a big push to get the daily storm

01:08:07.840 or book clubs really out there, uh, in meat space doing activism.

01:08:12.400 We, you know, the DFW, uh, book club that I've been real involved with, uh, has already,

01:08:18.220 yeah, has already been out there doing a lot.

01:08:20.240 You know, the, all the events, uh, that, uh, I attended last year, the two Houston

01:08:26.740 events, the Austin event and the, and Charlottesville, you know, I was accompanied to all these,

01:08:31.520 uh, by DFW, uh, Stormer book club, as well as Patriot front.

01:08:38.480 And, uh, the, this stuff's necessary.

01:08:40.920 Like, uh, and Patriot front, like they went out, uh, they just did a thing.

01:08:44.740 I believe it was maybe the December 23rd.

01:08:47.840 I don't think it was, I don't think it was Christmas Eve.

01:08:50.760 I think it was the day before they went down to, uh, San Antonio and they had about 30,

01:08:56.600 35 guys.

01:08:58.220 And, uh, you know, they are, they were all, uh, dressed well and looking good and flying

01:09:03.000 American flags and stuff.

01:09:04.420 And they were handing out flyers and the flyers were about how democracy has failed you.

01:09:10.820 And they handed these things out and then they went in front of the Alamo and gave a

01:09:16.700 100% ethno-nationalist speech.

01:09:19.980 And, uh, you know, I just didn't, the, the, my last guest was Thomas from the, uh, the

01:09:24.460 leader of Patriot front.

01:09:26.140 And, uh, you know, we need a lot more stuff like this too, but for the vast majority of

01:09:30.640 us, uh, it's going to have to be online and we need people to, like I said, we need people

01:09:38.400 to run for office.

01:09:39.560 We need people to, I mean, we need everything.

01:09:42.840 We need people who are going to keep their power level hidden while they go to law school,

01:09:50.420 you know, that kind of thing.

01:09:52.940 And, um, um, you know, I, I wish, I always wish that I was a more capable person that

01:09:59.880 I could lay these things out in a more coherent way.

01:10:03.540 But the fact of the matter is, uh, we're a fledgling movement, even though I, you know,

01:10:09.100 I, I fully believe we have millions of members just here in the United States who identify

01:10:14.680 as alt-right or ethno-nationalist or identitarian, however they want to say it, but we're still

01:10:22.540 a fledgling movement.

01:10:23.820 We don't have anything like the numbers that something like the conservative movement or the

01:10:29.220 progressive movement has, and we don't have a mouthpiece to the mainstream media.

01:10:36.060 Now we do have the internet and we work the internet better than anybody.

01:10:41.380 And so we need to double down on that.

01:10:44.620 So on that note as what do you, so, so, so the idea would be to, and I like the idea where

01:10:49.920 you, you have a robust type of thing going on where we pursue every avenue, but don't give

01:10:57.480 up the best avenue that we've seen work the best right now on the internet trolling and

01:11:01.300 such, right?

01:11:02.440 Did you suppose that there needs to be somebody who takes this up on their shoulders and, and

01:11:07.660 produces a, I don't know, a document or something that says, this is, this is the strategy of

01:11:13.340 what we're doing, or do we, how do we disseminate this to the, to the other people?

01:11:16.900 How do we convince some kid that wants to study law to keep his mouth shut until he's done

01:11:22.440 with it?

01:11:22.720 Right.

01:11:23.200 Um, I don't know, cause I, cause I like these ideas, right?

01:11:27.100 If you just do every avenue and it just works and eventually takes over, that's great.

01:11:32.220 And it would likely work, but do we need to spread that out somewhere?

01:11:35.840 Yeah, we do.

01:11:36.840 But to my knowledge, the best way we do that is what we're doing right now.

01:11:42.980 Yeah.

01:11:43.400 Okay.

01:11:43.680 I see what you're saying.

01:11:44.360 So there, there's not really, you don't see a need to even mention it as like a central

01:11:48.500 strategy, just do it and nobody talks about it, which could work.

01:11:52.660 I mean, that's what people are doing.

01:11:53.860 You got the book clubs, you got people.

01:11:55.400 Yeah.

01:11:55.640 Okay.

01:11:56.200 Yeah.

01:11:56.500 Well, I mean, and you've got radio shows like this and we've got all our websites and

01:12:00.260 everything.

01:12:00.600 And I mean, the thing is like the thing about central documents is, you know, for all the

01:12:07.680 talk of what fascists we are and what a, and what a, uh, monolithic group we are and everything,

01:12:15.620 this is really an extremely decentralized movement that the various fashions of it are constantly

01:12:22.280 at one another's throats.

01:12:23.880 And I think we function best and get along as an entire group best when we're not laying

01:12:32.400 down these huge manifestos with too many hard points to them.

01:12:38.100 You know, what, what we need, what we need is space for everybody to do their own thing.

01:12:45.940 As far as like, you know, you've got, you've got everybody from national socialists to American

01:12:53.020 nationalists to Southern nationalists, you know, that kind of thing going in this movement

01:12:57.780 and they're not all going to agree on various things.

01:13:02.800 And, you know, I, I don't, I don't know, I don't know how we're going to spread these

01:13:08.440 ideas better than to spread them by writing about them on our websites, uh, talking about

01:13:16.240 them on our radio shows and speaking about them in public, as well as, you know, um, organizing

01:13:22.520 in the IRL groups that we're setting up.

01:13:25.460 We do need lots more, uh, we need lots more IRL, uh, interaction, even like people who, um,

01:13:33.440 are not in a place where like, like say you've got a job as an accountant or a teacher or something

01:13:40.540 like that, where there's just no way that you, it could ever be let out there that you're

01:13:47.000 an alt-right type person.

01:13:48.520 Well, you should probably still look for ways to go to these meetup groups.

01:13:54.140 Cause there are a lot of meetup groups that aren't going out there and like confronting

01:13:58.520 Antifa and stuff like TRS has their pool parties and that kind of thing.

01:14:02.080 And they, you know, they vet people that come to these things, um, because that's one of

01:14:06.860 the things that's, uh, that's, uh, you know, one of the more fond memories about Charlottesville

01:14:11.800 was walking into that park and meeting all these people who, uh, agreed with me.

01:14:18.940 It's, it's, it's, it's a very empowering thing to be in a physical space and there are all these

01:14:26.600 other people there, uh, who just, you know, they're all on the same page because

01:14:31.900 you know, society has atomized us to the point that, uh, I think there are a lot more people

01:14:39.520 who agree with us who won't even admit it to themselves for the most part, because all

01:14:46.060 they see is what's in the mainstream media and there's a very narrow box of what they're

01:14:51.540 allowed to believe and not feel guilty about it.

01:14:54.680 Yep.

01:14:54.820 No, and I, I like that.

01:14:56.340 I like that idea as this is, um, uh, see that, and, and what we've seen the last year,

01:15:01.700 right, is basically, um, I mean, some stuff has progressed forward and that's great is

01:15:06.700 we've seen a lot of infighting, right?

01:15:08.260 Um, people jockeying for power, the merchant, right?

01:15:11.700 The alt, right?

01:15:12.860 Everybody's kind of at each other's throats like you're saying, right?

01:15:15.340 And, uh, maybe that's just it, that that idea of a centralized authority is never going to

01:15:20.000 work, right?

01:15:20.780 And it, and it likely won't.

01:15:21.840 I don't believe it will, but, um, I, I, and this is where I thought, well, if it's not

01:15:26.900 going to work, maybe I just jump ship and, and forget it all because it's just insane.

01:15:32.160 I'm taking that from a viewpoint of, uh, I've not seen this happen in history that I know

01:15:37.460 of, right?

01:15:38.220 So can it happen now?

01:15:39.300 It sure as heck can happen now, right?

01:15:40.740 There's nothing says that it can't happen right now.

01:15:42.940 And that's where, um, I, I think that maybe people have to, uh, have some faith in that

01:15:49.480 and go forward with, I mean, it seems to work for, I don't know, terrorist groups, I guess,

01:15:53.740 do this.

01:15:54.100 And that's not what I'm not saying that we're setting up a terror org, but the point is, is

01:15:57.780 this decentralization, I decentralization idea, it seems to be working and you're right.

01:16:02.840 Uh, the more websites, the more trolling, everybody does their own thing in their own

01:16:06.840 specific way.

01:16:07.460 But at the end of the day, we agree, uh, at least not even in words, but in some type of

01:16:12.260 idea.

01:16:12.820 And that's really what it comes down to.

01:16:14.760 Yeah.

01:16:14.880 Well, I mean, there are certain foundational principles that we have as a movement that

01:16:20.140 are so strong and so diametrically opposed to the mainstream that no matter what, uh,

01:16:27.400 smaller details we disagree on, we're still a movement, you know, like the main one being

01:16:33.540 white countries for white people.

01:16:35.640 There is no more radical idea politically than that.

01:16:40.560 And the thing is, the internet is the most groundbreaking, earth-shaking technological development vis-a-vis

01:16:51.620 political activism since the printing press.

01:16:56.380 Yep.

01:16:56.500 There's no question about that.

01:16:58.800 And whoever uses this new technology to the greatest advantage is going to be who wins.

01:17:06.820 Uh, yep.

01:17:07.600 I mean, everything else is important.

01:17:10.120 You know, IRL activism is important.

01:17:13.840 Political activism is important.

01:17:16.980 Uh, being involved in your local community, very important.

01:17:20.620 Getting people in the professions, especially like the legal professions, very important.

01:17:26.020 It, every bit of that put together pales in comparison to properly utilizing the internet.

01:17:34.840 Yep.

01:17:35.560 But, no, I totally agree on that.

01:17:38.180 Yeah.

01:17:38.500 Now, you brought up the merchant right.

01:17:40.520 Um, there's a whole thing going on now.

01:17:43.760 And it's, um, and I don't want to just talk about them specifically.

01:17:51.520 It seems like I was thinking about this this morning.

01:17:54.940 Because, you know, everybody's talking about horseshoe theory a whole lot lately.

01:17:59.100 Because that's the thing that several groups are applying to us.

01:18:04.200 There, you've got your merchant right, who are basically civ nats.

01:18:09.660 But a lot of them were, a lot of them were signaling during the campaign that they weren't

01:18:15.200 civ nats.

01:18:15.900 Like, you know, Cernovich was acting like he was maybe an ethno-nationalist.

01:18:20.160 And, uh, you know, these guys have all changed their tune.

01:18:23.980 And then you've got these, uh, the, the big thing in the alt-right right now that, that

01:18:29.140 everybody's interested in is this thing that's going on with the skeptics and Sargon of Akkad

01:18:33.940 and all.

01:18:34.420 And, uh, they're, they're applying this horseshoe theory to us.

01:18:39.080 And I see this across every platform, whether it's YouTube, Twitter, Gab, whatever, all these

01:18:46.400 groups are saying to us that, uh, we are SJWs.

01:18:52.900 And it, and it, it basically goes like this.

01:18:56.140 Um, SJWs are collectivists.

01:19:00.960 Yes, the alt-right are collectivists.

01:19:05.460 Therefore, the alt-right are SJWs.

01:19:08.920 And this, this is, um, the C, they're attempting to seed a meme here that if we allow them to

01:19:15.880 seed it, it's going to be hard to refute.

01:19:18.020 And one of the reasons that I think, um, it's going to be easy to seed if we don't oppose

01:19:25.080 it, uh, properly is because it's such a big lie type thing, right?

01:19:30.960 Because it's obvious that we're not SJWs because every single, um, uh, goal that the, the extreme

01:19:40.760 progressive left, the social justice warriors have is a thing that we're diametrically opposed

01:19:45.620 to.

01:19:45.840 But I see this coming from everywhere.

01:19:47.360 I mean, even like, uh, there's some weirdo on Gab called politics ghost, and he does a

01:19:54.140 show called true capitalist radio.

01:19:56.320 And it was brought to my attention yesterday.

01:19:58.260 I mean, I've seen he, and a few adherents of his show, it's just some little show on

01:20:04.680 blog talk radio.

01:20:06.120 They post, uh, all over Gab promoting his show every time it's on, which is, you know,

01:20:11.180 great, whatever.

01:20:12.500 But he's totally one of these, you know, capitalist, capitalist, capitalist, capitalist.

01:20:17.280 And, uh, uh, somebody came along in the hashtag where I was asking people for questions for

01:20:24.160 you today, promoting that show.

01:20:26.040 So I went and checked it out and he's doing that exact thing.

01:20:29.120 And they're, they're throwing, they're throwing socialism and communism at us.

01:20:34.780 And like this guy was, this guy based the whole thing off a single post on Gab by Cantwell where

01:20:41.560 Cantwell said, I am a libertarian, but I would prefer white socialism to Jew capitalism, which

01:20:50.140 I think any reasonable person understands that what he's saying there is this Jewish thing

01:20:55.140 that they're calling capitalism isn't capitalism.

01:20:57.500 There's no free enterprise whatsoever to it.

01:21:00.460 It's a, it's a rigged game and, and, and he's basically advocating for ethno-nationalism.

01:21:05.480 This guy made a whole show around claiming that the alt-rider communists and, uh, that we've

01:21:13.260 shown our hand, right.

01:21:15.320 And yeah, and this is going on.

01:21:18.960 I mean, you've seen that with the, the merchant, right?

01:21:21.600 To Cernovich pulls that kind of crap all the time.

01:21:24.980 Um, and this is a very, I don't know.

01:21:28.540 I see a very concerted effort with this stuff and we'll talk about the, the skeptics in a

01:21:34.140 minute because they're a subject to all of themselves and very current, but I mean, what's

01:21:38.600 your ideas on how to refute this horseshoe theory stuff?

01:21:42.560 Because, you know, as we, as you started off at the beginning of the show, just refuting

01:21:48.180 the actual logical points often is not enough.

01:21:51.480 Right.

01:21:51.880 So the problem with these guys and that I've talked about this a little bit is, is you've

01:21:56.320 got all of these, uh, all of these, uh, self-proclaimed profits I'd call them, right?

01:22:01.820 Where they have these, uh, epiphany like moments, uh, at one moment in time where they see a picture

01:22:07.460 in their brain and they say, this idea or this group fits categories, A, B, and C.

01:22:14.760 And I can see that clearly it feels like it's right.

01:22:17.520 And that must be the case.

01:22:18.760 Now, I think where a lot of these guys got this idea was from, um, that Dinesh D'Souza

01:22:23.160 guy that started talking about how everybody's a Nazi except for him.

01:22:26.620 Um, and it could have been pre that, but I, that's when I started seeing it on Twitter a

01:22:30.940 lot more where he started claiming the alt-right and everybody else is a Nazi and I'm not.

01:22:35.760 So, uh, it, maybe it predated that when people started getting this SJW idea, horseshoe

01:22:40.720 theory with the alt-right.

01:22:41.560 But the point is, is, is if I, if I take their same idea and say I have A, B, and C category

01:22:48.400 and when I put those together, it describes why event or why group, then that assumes that

01:22:56.160 A, B, and C categories are the only categories that ever describe that group and that there's

01:23:00.860 no way to refute it.

01:23:01.800 There are no other, uh, categories that I'm not seeing.

01:23:05.300 So I must be right.

01:23:06.840 Now, the problem with that is I don't believe that anybody has a truth.

01:23:09.940 So when these guys are looking at that and saying, this group has all of these attributes,

01:23:14.980 all of these attributes are the same attributes that the left has so that the right now must

01:23:19.000 be an SJW.

01:23:20.700 What I see it as is this, right?

01:23:22.540 And I don't know if this is the way to refute it, but this is the problem, right?

01:23:25.680 Um, when they're saying we are pegging the alt-right as SJWs, just like the left, they're

01:23:33.380 being SJWs in their self because they dislike our type of, let's say, social justice.

01:23:38.740 They have a better idea of what social justice is and their idea of social justice is to get

01:23:43.180 rid of the alt-right because we're Nazis, right?

01:23:45.440 So they basically blame themselves while blaming us and everybody's wrong.

01:23:49.040 So it's a useless point on that end.

01:23:51.420 Um, to refute this one, uh, if, if it was me on this end, I would make it a point of diving

01:23:57.100 in this situation deep into the logical idea that they're trying to pull and saying, unless

01:24:03.680 you can, unless you're God and see past, present, and future and know everything and all of the

01:24:09.000 categories that are required to say that somebody is an SJW, then you have no idea for SJWs.

01:24:14.840 And in fact, what you're doing is you're doing exactly what the SJWs are doing to us and to

01:24:19.360 you.

01:24:19.900 So you're an SJW itself.

01:24:21.920 And I could, I could argue that.

01:24:23.400 And so that my sense of the world is I now see that there's category A, B, and C that

01:24:28.160 described the left, but they also described the merchant, right?

01:24:31.160 So they're the SJWs, not us.

01:24:32.720 Right.

01:24:33.340 And it's going to be a never ending game of this back and forth of who has the most categories

01:24:37.300 and who is more scientifically correct.

01:24:39.020 And it ends up that nobody's correct and everybody's full of bullshit.

01:24:42.000 Right.

01:24:42.900 Um, yeah.

01:24:44.820 So, so it's hard to say as my point is, I just don't know.

01:24:48.900 I don't know any other way and nobody's done this before to take this and deconstruct reality

01:24:54.020 to the point of everybody's full of shit, but I'm not.

01:24:57.720 But the problem is, is if I'm saying that, then I'm also full of shit.

01:25:00.960 So it's a self, uh, it's a self destroying idea.

01:25:03.960 But the point is, is that somebody has to eventually come to grips with this idea that these econoclasts

01:25:09.660 and that these YouTubers and all these people say, I'm the right guy is horseshit.

01:25:14.260 These people don't have a fucking clue what they're talking about.

01:25:16.100 Anybody in charge sees that there is a massive gray area where both sides could be right and

01:25:24.080 wrong at the same time.

01:25:25.280 And that might sound like some kind of quantum reality, but that's really how complicated

01:25:28.680 this shit gets.

01:25:29.520 And it's a problem where we have a lot of people here looking for a profit rather than

01:25:35.000 for what's really going on.

01:25:37.080 And it destroys the whole thing.

01:25:38.240 I don't know if it's going to stick, but that's just my take on it.

01:25:41.220 These people are full of shit.

01:25:42.280 And any of these cat ladies saying, oh, you're SJWs because Cernovich said so.

01:25:47.360 Fuck her.

01:25:47.920 She's a fucking cat lady.

01:25:49.220 I mean, it's all horseshit, right?

01:25:50.520 So I don't know.

01:25:51.700 That's just my take.

01:25:53.000 Well, yeah.

01:25:54.720 Well, and, and, you know, there's not, there's not much intellectual refutation that needs

01:25:59.720 to be involved with the Cernovich types, the merchant right.

01:26:03.860 But the thing is, you've got these, this other thing that's coming like with the, I guess

01:26:11.760 they're a better example, this, these skeptics, you know, Sargon of Akkad, this crap that he's

01:26:19.800 been pulling is emblematic of all these groups.

01:26:22.320 And it goes back to the thing I was saying where you have this extremely simplistic ABC

01:26:30.300 where SJWs equal collectivists, alt-right equals collectivists, therefore alt-right is SJW.

01:26:39.540 Well, you guys like him, you have to turn their logic back on them because it's easily done.

01:26:47.000 And Sargon has painted himself into a corner that I've got to say, I don't envy the guy.

01:26:54.880 I would not want to be in the position he's in now for all the shekels on earth.

01:26:59.220 He has basically been making this retarded, uh, statement that over and over that he's

01:27:11.020 for individual rights.

01:27:12.380 But the only way that you can be for individual rights is to be totally against any type of

01:27:17.040 collectivism.

01:27:17.840 Well, if you're totally against any type of collectivism, that means that you can never

01:27:22.560 advocate for anything unless you're doing it by yourself, right?

01:27:26.720 That no, no group can exist.

01:27:29.180 No number of people can band together and advocate for their interests.

01:27:33.400 And so now he has formed a group to advocate for the, for anti-collectivism.

01:27:42.380 And he's calling it the liberalists, but how do you, how you justify that is beyond me,

01:27:50.520 but the main linchpin here, and this is what makes these people so crazy.

01:27:55.020 This is why they come up with these weird ideas is that they have had this anti-racism

01:28:01.800 pounded into their heads for so long that basically they're cowards and they're not going to open

01:28:09.280 up their mind and think about, well, just because something's racist, does that make it wrong?

01:28:14.300 Uh, should we have an ideology of reality?

01:28:18.560 And if we should have an ideology based on reality, if we should base our policies and

01:28:24.660 our proposals on reality and the actual physical world and the way things work, then should we

01:28:31.660 entertain these ideas?

01:28:32.680 They can't do that.

01:28:33.880 They're, they're too afraid to do it.

01:28:35.480 They're too invested in virtue signaling and trying to pretend that, uh, evolution has

01:28:44.560 applied to every species on earth, except humans that somehow humans sprang up and every different

01:28:51.280 type of human, all equal, all the same.

01:28:53.860 And when you have a giant flaw like that in your view of reality, then you're going to

01:28:59.700 have to fall back on these weird ideas.

01:29:01.980 And this whole thing about these individual rights, nobody in the alt-right or nobody who

01:29:09.960 is reasonable and has any presence in the alt-right is trying to say, well, we don't think

01:29:17.600 anybody should have individual rights.

01:29:19.480 We want this monolithic, uh, totalitarian state where some leader tells us what to do

01:29:26.240 every second of the day.

01:29:27.460 We all have to think exactly the same thing.

01:29:29.560 We all have to do as we're told.

01:29:30.800 And we don't want that at all.

01:29:32.120 When we say we want white countries for white people, well, of course, rights would be involved

01:29:37.680 in that.

01:29:38.080 I mean, to be honest, if it wasn't for white countries that were full of white people, we

01:29:44.300 wouldn't even have these ideas about individual rights.

01:29:47.540 And that's one thing on, on this, on one thing I've not seen somebody do.

01:29:51.400 And I don't know if this would work as on this note, because, um, I've not seen anybody

01:29:54.860 do it.

01:29:55.180 I see that, uh, I see this as being something where if we put focus on it, then we're going

01:30:00.000 to become fully absorbed by saying, spending time saying, we're not, we're not, uh, we're

01:30:04.880 not SJWs trust us.

01:30:06.780 And here's why.

01:30:07.660 And we get off message, whatever message that might be.

01:30:09.980 I don't know if it's re I don't know if we can refute that because at the end of the

01:30:13.160 day, there could be somebody that, uh, knows full well that this is bullshit and

01:30:16.620 they could just be using it as a social engineer tactic to capture cat ladies again on Twitter.

01:30:21.040 Right.

01:30:21.380 I don't know that yet.

01:30:22.320 Right.

01:30:22.900 But the point is, is these guys that, uh, that come out as profits like Sargon and Cernovich

01:30:28.540 and other people on the, on the web, that whole idea needs to be, uh, needs to be trash.

01:30:35.340 We have to destroy that somehow.

01:30:36.720 In my opinion, where somebody finally comes and says, this is why these people are full

01:30:40.480 of shit, because if they weren't full of shit, they'd also be, uh, guilty of the same

01:30:44.840 thing they're accusing us of.

01:30:45.840 Right.

01:30:46.440 And I don't know if that would help, but my theory is, is everybody's doing it.

01:30:49.820 Jordan Peterson's doing it.

01:30:50.800 He has his own following system and individualist is long.

01:30:53.500 And, and you should believe exactly like me so that we're a collective group.

01:30:57.060 It's all horse shit.

01:30:57.760 Right.

01:30:58.360 Um, but I don't know if these kids really understand that this is a real legitimate

01:31:02.220 problem in math and logic.

01:31:03.800 And this is a problem that if anybody has this definitive truth where they know something's

01:31:08.180 real, they likely don't.

01:31:09.420 And they're probably doing it for money or they're morons.

01:31:11.240 Right.

01:31:11.900 Um, and eventually somebody's not to come forward and explain this.

01:31:15.240 I've thought about doing it myself and I don't know if people would get it, but the

01:31:18.520 point is, is, um, uh, the deconstruction of reality on this level would help us out

01:31:23.980 with destroying a lot of these things that people are accusing us.

01:31:27.080 But at the same time, it could be self-destructive because that's exactly what the left is doing.

01:31:30.880 Therefore we're leftists again.

01:31:31.940 Right.

01:31:32.520 So I don't know, I don't know what the answer is, uh, but I do know this is these people

01:31:37.320 aren't helping us out.

01:31:38.040 Yeah.

01:31:38.480 Well, well, the thing is, and, uh, you know, you, you call them profits, these self-appointed

01:31:43.500 profits.

01:31:44.400 Well, a lot of this is about profits, but in another sense, I mean, people like Sargon and

01:31:50.400 Cernovich, uh, you know, Sargon, he's worried about that AdSense money.

01:31:55.320 Exactly.

01:31:55.980 Yep.

01:31:56.280 And, uh, uh, and, uh, and Cernovich, you know, is he gets income through a number of

01:32:04.860 ways because of all the crap that he does.

01:32:07.260 And he's worried about his, uh, you know, his Twitter profile and how many followers he's

01:32:12.640 gotten, you know, how many imprint Twitter impressions he made that day and all that stuff.

01:32:17.900 And, you know, how many people you've got so many people out there and I, and don't get

01:32:22.680 me wrong.

01:32:23.240 I mean, um, I, I'm not saying that nobody should be able to make a living advocating

01:32:29.040 for their political thing or whatever, but there's so much of this horse shit goes on

01:32:35.340 because these guys get themselves entrenched into a certain viewpoint.

01:32:40.260 Um, at least in the case of somebody like Sargon, you know, Sargon, um, Spencer really nailed

01:32:49.200 him, uh, and pointed out the main problem with him during that, uh, live stream that

01:32:54.700 he had on, uh, Andy Worski's YouTube channel last week where he said, Sargon, your biggest

01:33:00.480 problem is that you're just not nearly as smart as you think you are.

01:33:04.000 And, uh, and that's Sargon's biggest problem here is that he has gotten into a place that's

01:33:10.700 going to require a lot more, uh, mental resources than he has because Sargon started off as this

01:33:17.620 guy.

01:33:17.860 I mean, he started off before I ever noticed him back during the gamer gate thing.

01:33:23.000 Uh, and so, and so he was basically talking about, uh, you know, not allowing the games to

01:33:30.360 be policed by the SJWs or whatever.

01:33:33.880 And that kind of morphed into, um, he used to make some pretty funny videos.

01:33:40.440 I guess everybody used to make some pretty funny videos where they would basically find

01:33:45.040 videos of like these junior college feminists chimping out and they'll sit there and they'll

01:33:50.400 play five seconds of something they say, and then they'll make fun of, you know, they'll

01:33:53.800 pause it and make fun of them and go on.

01:33:55.680 Well, that's low hanging fruit.

01:33:57.520 And now these people are attacking the alt-right and now it's time that they really need to

01:34:04.100 have their political and philosophical shit together and they're not prepared for it.

01:34:09.620 And the thing is, if you're going to sit there and, and especially, you know, Sargon and all

01:34:15.120 these people, they're calling themselves the skeptic movement.

01:34:19.460 Now, if you're a skeptic, that means you're not supposed to take things at face value, right?

01:34:24.160 You're supposed to, uh, be objective and hunt down the research and the statistics and look

01:34:30.200 at all viewpoints and everything.

01:34:32.020 And these people only seem to apply this skepticism to things that it makes them more comfortable

01:34:38.780 to be skeptical about.

01:34:40.060 Like, well, you know, it's okay for me to do X because there's no God, because I looked

01:34:45.800 at this, at the research and there's no, I'm not going to just believe in God because

01:34:50.620 those people told me to, but then you come across, you know, the things that have really

01:34:55.620 been hammered into their heads and they're like, well, it's too uncomfortable to look

01:35:01.700 at IQ studies.

01:35:03.420 It's too, and if I do look at, you know, if somebody points out these IQ studies, I'm

01:35:08.160 going to claim that the tests are racist.

01:35:10.580 You know, suddenly they're not skeptical at all.

01:35:12.780 They're just making up any excuse they can.

01:35:15.080 And, and, but, but the thing about the, the individualism thing, I'd like to get back to

01:35:19.800 here, you know, you mentioned Jordan Peterson.

01:35:21.720 That's a real good one.

01:35:23.000 That's one of those guys with a glaring gap in his philosophy.

01:35:26.720 Jordan Peterson, you know, he's big free speech guy, right?

01:35:30.520 He's like, oh, we can't be censoring people who have different ideas from the leftist orthodoxy

01:35:36.100 and all that.

01:35:36.680 And he's got a lot of investment in that because he's a college professor up in Canada.

01:35:41.240 And, uh, he attended a, uh, or was an organizer at some big free speech conference a few weeks

01:35:48.780 ago where they decided that Faith Goldie wasn't allowed to be on the panel anymore because she

01:35:55.760 literally, because she had been on this show and, and he said, and I've heard this said by

01:36:04.220 so many people who are allegedly on the right and are these complete individualists that free

01:36:11.720 speech doesn't apply to quote unquote Nazis.

01:36:17.240 And once you say that you have given up all your pretensions to enlightenment philosophy

01:36:24.560 because you basically have just hit the SJW talking point of hate speech is not free speech.

01:36:31.520 And where do you draw that line?

01:36:33.820 Oh, and with these guys, um, and that, that's why I'll say with, uh, with all of these, uh,

01:36:39.280 self-proclaimed prophets, I call them, um, because that, that's, that's really how I view it.

01:36:43.580 I've, I, I was subject to this as a child where, uh, some guy called himself the prophet in Mormon

01:36:49.500 church and still does.

01:36:50.560 And you don't question them, right?

01:36:52.220 Um, even though they stumble on their words and contradict each other every time someone

01:36:57.580 dies.

01:36:57.860 So the point is, is with these guys, um, it's, it's either, they're trying to do this

01:37:03.600 to make money and sustain theirself or they're fucking idiots.

01:37:06.240 There is no middle ground here.

01:37:07.700 They, with Jordan Peterson, I don't know if he realizes what he's doing, but the, the

01:37:12.160 emotional outburst that this guy's had on some YouTube channels and some of the stuff

01:37:16.120 he's saying, I think he's fucking insane.

01:37:17.340 I think the guy's a psychopath or has schizophrenia.

01:37:19.960 Um, he, he's speaking with, uh, an emotional something or other that isn't based in reason.

01:37:27.440 And I can tell that from the way he talks and the way he argues, because he'll argue

01:37:30.840 on semantics.

01:37:31.960 Uh, if you get in his Twitter feed and he'll argue on really stupid shit where he's just

01:37:36.020 basically demeaning people, uh, you know, uh, some of these Nazi kids that he likes to

01:37:41.180 call him.

01:37:41.440 Um, it would be better for him if he said, I believe personally that I don't think that

01:37:46.880 Nazi kids should have a voice.

01:37:48.240 If he said it that way, I might take it a little bit more seriously because he's not saying

01:37:51.560 it's a definitive truth, but he's not saying that.

01:37:53.380 And the problem with these skeptic guys, and I'm, I don't like to call myself a skeptic.

01:37:57.080 I don't believe in God.

01:37:58.260 But the point is, is, is if you don't believe in a higher authority like that, and you only

01:38:02.620 believe in evidence-based things, evidence changes every day.

01:38:05.220 So what you believed yesterday isn't true because there's new evidence today.

01:38:08.180 Even if you don't have that evidence in writing, there is more information today than there

01:38:12.640 was yesterday.

01:38:13.300 So what you believe tomorrow might be wrong.

01:38:15.100 These guys don't understand that concept and it's problematic.

01:38:17.660 It's almost as if they're skeptics on this faith idea where they hate God because some

01:38:23.360 Christian kid called him a fat ass or something when he was a child.

01:38:26.080 Right.

01:38:26.620 Um, and it's more of an emotional form of skepticism and atheism rather than the real thing that

01:38:32.080 would be is you don't have any beliefs at all because everything's changing.

01:38:35.940 So you have to absorb all information and make the best choice given the information

01:38:39.540 now, knowing that it might be wrong tomorrow.

01:38:42.080 These people aren't capable of that.

01:38:43.660 So I don't take them seriously at all.

01:38:44.940 These people are full of shit.

01:38:46.160 I don't know how to get rid of them, but I'd like to, um, maybe it's just a matter of demeaning

01:38:50.360 them into oblivion.

01:38:51.200 Like we're already doing.

01:38:52.420 Well, yeah.

01:38:52.880 And, and, you know, I'll just stay here for the record.

01:38:55.320 I'm not an atheist, but I have never, I've never had a problem with people who identified

01:39:01.660 as atheist or agnostic who wanted to discuss the issue in rational terms, right?

01:39:08.520 And, and try to get to a truth.

01:39:11.300 But the thing is, there is nothing cringier than what I have in my observation is about

01:39:19.940 99% of people who self identify as atheist or skeptic where it's exactly what you're talking

01:39:26.000 about.

01:39:26.320 The thing is they have some type of an emotional investment in not believing in a God and they

01:39:33.020 have actually made it into a foundational faith that there's not a God that, that they

01:39:40.120 can prove, they can absolutely prove this unprovable proposition, right?

01:39:46.720 And if you, if you're going to come at it from that, and there's a lot of really intelligent

01:39:54.240 people who've done this.

01:39:55.660 I mean, like Christopher Hitchens is not somebody who I ever agreed with about much, but I would

01:40:00.680 be a liar to say he was a stupid person, right?

01:40:03.500 He was a very intelligent person, but Christopher Hitchens, the last decade or so of his life

01:40:10.480 made a whole career out of claiming that he could absolutely prove the proposition that

01:40:19.020 there was no God, that there is no unseen dimension, no spiritual dimension, and that

01:40:25.980 kind of thing.

01:40:27.520 Yeah, that's insane.

01:40:28.440 Right, right.

01:40:29.240 And there's this whole movement of people who've been doing that.

01:40:33.200 Now, fortunately, we don't hear from them so much anymore.

01:40:36.020 I mean, we still hear from them, but they're on to different things now, like no collectivism.

01:40:40.680 And I guess they've kind of been bullied into that because, I mean, how long can you sustain

01:40:48.000 a movement where all you do is bash religious people and claim that you can prove they're

01:40:55.560 wrong?

01:40:56.000 You can never prove that something like that is wrong.

01:40:59.620 Now, I mean, that's why it's called a faith, you know, is that it's a thing that you have

01:41:05.080 to decide that you believe in, either that or you're raised in it and always believe in

01:41:11.440 it.

01:41:11.660 That's one of the things that I always found interesting.

01:41:15.500 I didn't, I've read The Road Less Traveled by M. Scott Peck.

01:41:20.300 I don't know if you ever read that.

01:41:22.040 And I wasn't too impressed with most of the book, but there was one very impressive chapter

01:41:27.200 in it where he's talking about faith and religion.

01:41:29.840 And he says, the people who are really firm in their religion are the ones who were raised

01:41:37.100 in it, who at some point quit believing it, and then later in life came back to it.

01:41:43.700 He said, you can never really, you can never really test the depths of your faith unless

01:41:49.980 you've lost it at some point.

01:41:53.000 That's a good point.

01:41:55.260 In fact, let me interject there because, and I hate going back to Mormonism, but this is

01:41:58.740 something that they've started teaching at higher levels, right?

01:42:02.140 Where there's three levels of Mormon history, the one you're taught when you're a child,

01:42:06.020 the one you're taught when you're a teenager, and the real history that you're taught as

01:42:09.660 an adult, right?

01:42:10.340 That, you know, Joseph Smith fucked 14-year-olds and stuff.

01:42:13.340 You aren't told that when you're a child, obviously.

01:42:15.940 But then that point of the third level of history is where you finally come to accept it

01:42:20.520 as the, you know, the religion that is, not because you believe it, but because it's

01:42:25.560 necessary.

01:42:26.160 And that's where it comes down to.

01:42:28.480 It's that whole idea of necessity to keep society in check so that people just don't

01:42:33.660 go fuck dogs.

01:42:35.120 Because a lot of these atheists, that's what they're, that's what it comes down to.

01:42:39.000 Well, if God's not real, I'm just gonna fuck a dog because why not?

01:42:42.020 I'm an atheist.

01:42:42.700 I don't want to fuck a dog.

01:42:43.740 I don't want to, you know, go bang a lesbian or get herpes or something, right?

01:42:47.580 I mean, it's just, this is obvious shit, but these people tend to not understand because

01:42:51.520 they don't understand what they even believe, right?

01:42:53.080 Well, I think that there's probably a lot of what you're saying there that goes into

01:42:58.740 it, but I think a lot of it is in the inverse of that.

01:43:02.560 I think there's a lot of people who are like, but I want to do this, but my religion, my God

01:43:09.060 says, I can't do that.

01:43:10.580 Therefore, it's more comfortable to me to, instead of, you know, changing the behavior,

01:43:16.700 you know, whatever it is, I'm going to change my belief in my religion and God and all that.

01:43:23.280 No, I'd say that's more common.

01:43:24.740 My, my case of atheism, um, and I'm not trying to make myself cool or anything, but I've not,

01:43:30.100 I've not met anybody, anybody like me that actually, uh, has this idea where everybody's

01:43:35.900 wrong, even I'm wrong.

01:43:36.880 Um, and that might change in the future.

01:43:39.680 There might be a God, but I just don't know there is.

01:43:41.700 So I choose not to believe it because I feel it's a waste of time to even contemplate, contemplate

01:43:45.980 right now until we have more evidence.

01:43:47.860 Um, but that, that I would say is normally the case.

01:43:50.360 That's usually the case I've seen of people that reject religion.

01:43:52.820 It's because they want to go fuck a dog or something, right?

01:43:55.620 I'm not, I'm, and this happens.

01:43:57.240 These people are insane.

01:43:58.540 Um, I don't know if, uh, maybe there is another group that isn't like that, but I've not found

01:44:02.980 them yet.

01:44:03.280 Um, yeah, well, I tell you what, uh, you are a unique individual on many levels.

01:44:09.320 We're going to take a break now.

01:44:11.540 And, uh, when we come back, we're going to, uh, talk a bit about some stories in the news

01:44:20.220 lately.

01:44:20.520 We're going to shit post a little about those.

01:44:22.920 And then after that, we will, uh, we'll look and see if there are any comments or questions

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01:44:43.460 Are you on the facebergs or anything?

01:44:45.500 Nah, Gab is good right now.

01:44:47.780 Okay.

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01:49:15.740 And our guest today is Microchip.

01:49:19.520 We had a great first half discussion.

01:49:22.020 Went pretty deep into a lot of things.

01:49:25.180 But let's just talk about some stories that are in the news right now.

01:49:30.260 This is one I wanted to bring up because it's gotten to be such a common thing.

01:49:37.580 There are so many states doing this.

01:49:39.280 This is from the Jerusalem Post of all places.

01:49:43.140 Governor Henry McMaster of South Carolina, South Carolina's governor, called upon his state senate on Wednesday to pass a law that would make South Carolina the first U.S. state to codify a universal definition of anti-Semitism.

01:50:00.380 The definition would be taken from a U.S. State Department decision in 2010 and an accompanying fact sheet that singles out demonizing, delegitimizing, and having a double standard for Israel.

01:50:13.040 This is a quote.

01:50:14.500 Anti-Semitism is a certain perception of Jews, which may be expressed as hatred towards Jews, the definition says.

01:50:22.460 The fact sheet adds blaming Israel for all inter-religious or political tensions, applying double standards by requiring of it a behavior not expected or demanded of any other democratic nation, and denying the Jewish people its right to self-determination.

01:50:50.820 And Israel, the right to exist.

01:50:53.360 But it also says that, quote, criticism of Israel, similar to that leveled against any other country, cannot be regarded as anti-Semitic.

01:51:02.280 The bill passed in the South Carolina House of Representatives in March by a 103-3 vote, with 115 of the 124 state representatives co-sponsoring it.

01:51:14.260 But since then, it has been stalled.

01:51:16.200 The governor urged that the bill be passed in the state Senate in time for International Holocaust Remembrance Day on January 27th.

01:51:24.580 I mean, I don't even know where they're going with this.

01:51:28.460 It's not in the article.

01:51:29.400 But if they pass a law making it illegal to criticize Israel and Jews, then I'm assuming that there would be, like, consequences if you didn't.

01:51:41.260 I don't know.

01:51:41.760 It could be symbolic on this level.

01:51:43.940 But I don't think that's the case.

01:51:46.400 I think this is a long-term strategic play where they're trying to turn the U.S. into this weird version of Europe where you go to jail if you talk bad about a religion.

01:51:59.620 And I don't doubt that they'll try to do this.

01:52:03.040 And I would expect that other religions are also on board and back this because of their weird ideology that they want to ensure somehow survives this post-modern world that we live in, right?

01:52:21.760 The problem is with these Jews.

01:52:25.700 I don't know what they're up to on this level.

01:52:30.280 All I know is that no matter who we vote for, it's going to be a problem.

01:52:37.580 And I don't know how we get rid of it other than by pointing out that this is completely anti-liberty, anti-freedom, and has nothing to do with America or what we were founded on.

01:52:49.340 I mean, there's nothing that I know of that says in the Constitution, and by the way, we need to protect the Jews to make sure that they're not hurt.

01:52:57.400 I mean, this is completely ridiculous.

01:52:59.160 The one thing I think we should do on this level, and I don't know how we could get there, is if they're going to do the same thing, we should do the same thing but for white people or something, however we define that, right?

01:53:08.980 Where across the board, if they're going to take away our freedom to say something bad, then we take away their freedom to do the same thing.

01:53:17.300 An eye for an eye.

01:53:18.160 And eventually, they cancel each other out, and everybody finds that they're both completely stupid, and they go away.

01:53:23.880 I don't know if that's possible, but that's my take.

01:53:26.360 Well, this type of thing, it's really illustrative of the stranglehold of influence that Jews have on every aspect of our government.

01:53:37.600 And it's interesting that you bring Europe into this, because this is absolutely what they're trying to do.

01:53:45.980 They're trying to institute a similar legal regime on speech as it pertains to Jews in the United States, as they have in countries like France and Germany.

01:53:58.900 Where even if you're not saying anything anti-Semitic per se, but say you're a revisionist historian who goes and does research on the Holocaust, and you say, okay, it wasn't quite six million, and they throw you in jail for that, right?

01:54:16.320 It's illegal at the outset to even question the numbers, much less question the event itself.

01:54:23.860 And Canada has a lot of vague hate speech laws that can do the same thing to you.

01:54:31.980 A lot of activist Jews and media Jews have been advocating that we abridge First Amendment protected speech when it concerns specifically the Holocaust and, in general, Jews.

01:54:51.340 It's been going on for a while, and we've seen a lot of inroads made into this, where I can't remember if it's either 23 or 26.

01:55:01.980 States that have laws that if you want to contract with the state or if you're a state-funded institution, that you're not allowed to take part in what's called the Boycott, Divest, and Sanction Movement.

01:55:17.540 And, you know, the Boycott, Divest, and Sanction Movement is mostly a leftist thing, but what it is is these people who support the Palestinians and, you know, their anti-Israel's policy towards the Palestinians.

01:55:33.380 And so, to protest the treatment of the Palestinians in Gaza and elsewhere in Israel, they urged their universities to not contract with Israeli companies, you know, so that their tuition dollars and so forth aren't going to support Israel.

01:55:51.480 And, like, one of the first people to come out big time against that stuff was Ted Cruz a couple of years ago.

01:55:59.200 That's right.

01:55:59.640 He was pushing for a bill in Congress that would stop any federal funds from going to any university that took part in the BDS movement.

01:56:09.920 And, of course, the state of Texas is one of those states that followed right along in suit with that.

01:56:18.320 And we have a law that is so restrictive that I did an article about this a month or two ago or maybe a longer.

01:56:26.960 I don't know.

01:56:27.300 Right after Hurricane Harvey happened, you know, that tore up the Houston area so bad, there were people releasing the contracts that the cities and the state government were requiring them to sign.

01:56:40.440 These are contractors, you know, people, road contractors and cleanup people and construction contractors.

01:56:49.160 And, you know, just everything you could imagine that you would need after a hurricane to start cleanup and rebuild and all that.

01:56:57.720 Every single one of these people who wanted to contract with anything remotely involved with the state of Texas had to check the boxes, sign a firm and a vow that they were not, did not support the boycott, divested, sanction movement.

01:57:18.400 And they recognized Israel's right to exist in all this.

01:57:22.820 I mean, this is a – what they're doing is this is incrementalism.

01:57:28.500 And this is how they've gotten us over time is it's the boiling frog theory.

01:57:33.620 You know, if you take a frog and you throw him in a pot of water that's already boiling, he's going to jump right back out, which is what would happen if somehow the Jews were able to say,

01:57:42.840 okay, overnight we're going to make it a crime where you go to prison for 10 years if you say anything bad about a Jew or Israel, that people would never go for that.

01:57:53.340 But when you turn the pot on really slowly and you put the frog in cool water and you slowly heat it, he'll stay in there until he boils to death.

01:58:03.280 And so they chip away a little bit at a time, a little bit at a time.

01:58:08.860 And nobody is noticing this stuff.

01:58:12.400 You know, we have to get – we had to get the news from the Jerusalem Post.

01:58:18.240 Right.

01:58:18.920 This is not in any Western media.

01:58:21.740 Well, they're probably doing that because they want to slide it underneath because some Jewish organization or person is buddies with the South Carolina people or whatever to make it happen.

01:58:32.540 And the problem – my take on this whole thing is I don't even – I don't know why I'm forced to support either Palestine or Israel.

01:58:38.980 I just don't care.

01:58:40.740 I don't know – I don't know why it's always the job of the American public, which I don't think is the most intelligent necessarily.

01:58:49.800 Why is it that we're always having to take these stances?

01:58:53.160 Why don't they go ask China or something?

01:58:54.700 And I think it's the – you know, go ask a whole different country, the Chinese people.

01:58:59.820 Do you support Israel?

01:59:00.900 I don't know if anybody gives a fuck, right?

01:59:02.920 It has nothing to do with what we're doing.

01:59:05.040 And the problem is in the USA, I think a lot of this comes down to virtue signaling.

01:59:10.300 And this is where I have a problem with religion in some senses.

01:59:15.380 You've got a guy like Ted Cruz that's this dominionist guy that believes in this weird version of Christianity where they're supposed to conquer the world as far as I know, right?

01:59:27.020 And I don't know if a lot of people know that, but it's dominionism like his father where they're going to go, you know, kill all the homosexuals and trannies and take over the world and establish, you know, Christian Zion.

01:59:37.040 And which I don't know if that plays into it, but the guy is in love with Israel for some reason and also had a lot of donors from the intelligence community, CIA people, Raytheon, that one place that was hacked by a nanos.

01:59:50.500 I can't remember off the top of my head.

01:59:52.040 And these people, I don't know what their end goal is, but they have some end goal here, right?

01:59:56.120 And I don't know if that's to create literal Zionism.

01:59:59.020 I think some of these people might think that.

02:00:00.720 Like, I don't know if Ted Cruz is insane enough to believe that he's going to, I mean, I know Christians believe this.

02:00:07.140 They're going to usher in the second coming of Jesus.

02:00:09.900 I think there's consequences to believing that and the consequences, if you're going to believe something like that, then the, the option, the only option I see happening is you support Israel to the end that we're going to have this Zion on earth, right?

02:00:22.560 And everybody's going to be perfect.

02:00:24.600 I don't know if that's the case or it's money.

02:00:26.860 I suspect that with a lot of these people, at least to what they're telling you and I, that it's, we have to support Israel because of Jesus.

02:00:35.660 And that's where I have a real problem with Christianity.

02:00:39.600 Well, yeah.

02:00:40.640 And that, of course, the Catholic church over the last few decades has gotten really entrenched in this too.

02:00:47.220 But the evangelical movement for the longest has had this real blind spot where it comes to Jews and it gets worse every year.

02:00:54.760 They, it started because of Cyrus Schofield and his reference notes, okay, that that's the Schofield reference Bible has been a staple of what we now call the evangelical churches that they weren't called that when I was a kid.

02:01:13.240 I was raised Southern Baptist, by the way.

02:01:15.200 Sure.

02:01:15.280 And back then they were called fundamentalist because, you know, they were all about real hardcore, like the, the, the founding principle of a fundamentalist church was that every single word in the Bible was fundamentally, absolutely true in, in a real world sense, you know?

02:01:38.820 And so, which was a lot of times hard to square.

02:01:44.660 I mean, I would ask them like, okay, well, it says in here that we got to stone these faggots to death, but I, you know, the government says that we can't stone the faggots to death.

02:01:56.520 And so you're obeying the government and not God.

02:01:59.240 How do you square that?

02:02:00.220 And so anyway, I mean, but they, they morphed into this evangelical movement and, and during that morphing, this Israel stuff got stronger and stronger and they base it on a couple of verses, mainly in Genesis, the main one.

02:02:20.840 And, and you'll see people, um, like if you're talking about, you don't support Israel or you're against the influence of the Jews, you want the Jews out of Western countries or whatever, you'll see these evangelical conservatives who quote the verse from Genesis where God tells Abraham, um, I will bless those who bless thee and curse those who curse thee.

02:02:45.580 Now, of course, even if you, uh, take that as a, that God literally said that he was saying that to Abraham, but these Schofield notes created this whole ideology where any promise that he made to Abraham was a promise to every Jew forever.

02:03:04.520 And so they all, all these promises extend to Israel as a whole and to the Jewish diaspora all over the world.

02:03:13.320 And it, it, it, it manifests in all kinds of weird ways because, um, like the, the, the fundamentalist or evangelical, the main thrust of their, um, beliefs and of any Christian church really is that to, um, to go to heaven, you know, to, to obtain the mercy of God and go to heaven.

02:03:40.460 And when you die and all that, you have to accept and believe, I mean, it's may not be the only thing like with Southern Baptist church.

02:03:50.000 This was the only thing you had to do, but with a lot of them, you have to do other things.

02:03:53.720 But if you don't do this one, you're not going, you have to accept and believe and profess that Jesus Christ is the son of God, that he, that he himself as the son of God is the living God.

02:04:08.000 Well, in the last 20 or so years, they've come up with this new doctrine called dispensationalism.

02:04:16.720 And one of its chief proponents is this guy, John Hagee out of San Antonio.

02:04:20.800 He's huge.

02:04:24.060 They dispensationalism says that this doctrine applies to everyone on earth, except Jews.

02:04:33.280 Yeah, that's good.

02:04:34.860 Right.

02:04:35.100 And, and, and, and the reason that it doesn't apply to Jews is because they're God's chosen people.

02:04:44.080 Right.

02:04:44.820 And so, I mean, there's, there's no deep thinking involved in this.

02:04:49.280 There, there, I mean, it's the, it's, it's what I call lowest common denominator religion.

02:04:55.100 Uh, religion that I consider good religion is religion that's based on faith.

02:05:00.040 It's based on spiritual principles, uh, and study of, you know, the Bible and that kind of thing.

02:05:06.380 But this is what I call bad religion.

02:05:08.900 This is religion that is based on browbeating people and scaring them about hell.

02:05:15.520 And, you know, when you get into a political argument with somebody about the influence of Jews and they tell you straight up.

02:05:25.300 And I've been told this, I don't know how many times you're going to go to hell for that political view because God said, you're not allowed to have that political view.

02:05:33.000 You've got a person there who is completely enslaved to world Jewry because he's afraid to go to hell.

02:05:40.220 It's the, it's the worst type of spiritual abuse.

02:05:43.860 You know, you know, the problem with this as on, on a bigger level is that, um, no matter which side you choose, if you go left or right, if I was to be a liberal right now, and maybe I am a liberal.

02:05:55.160 I have no idea.

02:05:55.980 I don't really care.

02:05:57.020 Uh, because a lot of my views are liberal views, uh, when it comes down to it.

02:06:01.020 But the point is, is if I went with Obama, now I'm supposed to support Palestine.

02:06:05.100 I don't want anything to do with these people.

02:06:06.840 There's got to be some center guy that says, I don't give a fuck about any of these people.

02:06:09.920 Let's just do America.

02:06:11.100 Right.

02:06:12.060 When does that happen?

02:06:13.360 Right.

02:06:14.720 Well, yeah, I agree.

02:06:16.320 And, you know, a lot of people thought Trump was going to be that guy.

02:06:19.660 He said a few things that made people think he was going to be that guy.

02:06:22.660 But of course, you know, he wasn't.

02:06:24.780 You know, he's got a family full of Jews and he loves Israel.

02:06:28.320 He campaigned for Netanyahu to be president over in Israel and all that good stuff.

02:06:33.520 Uh, and then of course, anybody who still thought that after the election, uh, had their hopes

02:06:38.920 crushed when he started appointing all his cabinet level positions.

02:06:42.140 And it was one Goldman Sachs Jew after another.

02:06:45.120 But, um, I'm with you there.

02:06:47.680 Um, and, and it's a thing that I see a lot of people in our movement doing that.

02:06:53.320 I, I just consider it pure faggotry when they're like virtue signaling how much they care about

02:06:58.980 these Palestinians.

02:07:00.400 I don't give a shit about those Palestinians.

02:07:03.220 And I don't get, and if these Jews, if we weren't paying for everything that they do

02:07:09.620 out of our tax dollars and we weren't fighting all these Middle Eastern wars because let's

02:07:14.820 face it, uh, to a large degree, it's because it's in Israel's interest, right?

02:07:19.400 Uh, if we weren't doing that and all these Jews would move to Israel and they would, um,

02:07:27.940 you know, live on their own dime and we had enough sense to not allow them to lobby our

02:07:33.080 politicians and things like that, I'd say, fine, let the, let the Jews and the Palestinians

02:07:38.180 figure it out.

02:07:39.060 I want nothing to do with it.

02:07:40.200 That, that would be the best of all worlds to me, but you're absolutely right.

02:07:44.540 We are forced to take a side on it and it, it's a thing that, um, Americans and Europeans

02:07:51.400 uniquely are asked to do not just with, I mean, for most it's with Israel, but not just

02:07:57.760 with Israel, but with every country on earth, you know, it's, it's this big interventionist

02:08:03.040 thing that we've been into since world war one, I guess, but it got really a lot worse

02:08:08.580 after world war two is any, anything going on anywhere in the world that we don't agree

02:08:15.300 with.

02:08:15.680 There's this huge sector of the population who thinks we should just go and make them

02:08:19.240 do what we want.

02:08:21.160 You know, you know, and, and on the same note as if, if I take a look at what a solution for

02:08:25.480 this is, if I say, Hey, you know, the solution is, and I, I, I might've said this years ago,

02:08:31.220 um, uh, when I bolted from the Mormon church and said, well, let's just get rid of all of

02:08:37.140 Christians because they're the problem, right?

02:08:39.120 Uh, the problem with this whole thing is even if we got rid of this idea, I don't know if

02:08:44.020 people are capable, like these evangelical people, are they capable of still believing

02:08:48.820 that Christ is, you know, their savior and redeemer, uh, without this idea of the Jews?

02:08:54.200 I don't know if they can.

02:08:55.240 And if I was to turn these people into atheists, let's say most of them would go out and do stupid

02:09:00.100 shit. They become liberals and turn their kids into trannies, right? There, there's no,

02:09:04.300 I don't know how we could ever come to a middle ground and I don't know if it comes down to

02:09:08.720 an intelligence problem or something, but these people are all connected into this matrix of

02:09:13.900 life is black and white. It's either God is real or I go out and turn my kid into a transvestite.

02:09:19.380 There is no, Hey, let's just be normal in the middle and not do any of this shit.

02:09:23.420 Yeah. Well, I, the thing that, that I kind of pushed back on the,

02:09:30.100 the, uh, religion is bad thing is that it's not just religion. I mean, everything, anything that

02:09:37.560 we point to in society has become this way. The, the government is just as bad as religion. The

02:09:43.360 media is just as bad as religion. Education is just as bad as religion. Culture is just as bad as

02:09:49.160 religion. And this is because in my opinion, more than anything else is because of the influence of

02:09:55.320 Jews in this stuff. And, um, the, the thing is, the Christian religion has been a great influence

02:10:07.300 for the most part throughout its history in Europe. Okay. It's not, you know, people who are,

02:10:14.160 uh, like say pagans and such like that, who are really, really anti Christianity. Um, they like to

02:10:22.800 point out all the Christian religion is Jude. It's, it's bad for our people and all that. And

02:10:27.260 they're right as it exists right now, it is totally Jude, but it wasn't always that way. And it's not

02:10:34.760 because it originated in the middle East because the Christian religion, as we have practiced it all

02:10:40.360 these centuries has not been a middle Eastern religion. It was a Europeanized religion. And even

02:10:46.680 before it got here, uh, it was basically, uh, like, especially if you read the gospel of John,

02:10:54.600 that's pure ancient Greek mysticism, right? It's the, the new Testament is a totally different thing

02:11:01.880 from the old Testament. Um, and so I think these things, we need to save them. We don't, we don't need

02:11:09.280 to just cast them aside. And the other point, you know, you said like, if, um, you made these people

02:11:18.420 into atheists, they'd go turn into trainings or whatever. Well, the religions have been degraded

02:11:23.340 by popular culture and the Jewish influence and everything to the point that a lot of these

02:11:28.540 Christians, uh, are becoming transsexuals. It's being sanctioned by their churches. Uh, you know,

02:11:35.060 to go back to, to go back to the Southern Baptist church, you know, the Southern Baptist church was

02:11:40.420 founded, uh, as the, in the lead up to the civil war during the political battles that led up to

02:11:47.540 the civil war, the Southern Baptist church was founded, uh, as the church that had the doctrine

02:11:54.800 that slavery was biblical, which it absolutely is. I mean, there's no questioning that. And so

02:12:01.400 when the Confederacy was formed and the secessions began and everything, the Southern Baptist church

02:12:07.640 became the official church of the Confederacy. And the, the, uh, Confederate flag flew over the

02:12:13.160 Southern Baptist church for a lot longer than it flew over the Confederacy. Right. And, uh, I left the

02:12:20.160 church in, uh, oh, my late teens, you know, I, I'd had enough of the organized church. And so when I

02:12:29.940 got involved in identity politics, I was really surprised when I started seeing where a lot of this

02:12:38.340 push for mass immigration and so forth was coming from, it was coming from the Southern Baptist church,

02:12:44.580 like, and you go digging into it and you find out that like, there's this, um, evangelical, um,

02:12:52.200 round table is what it's called. It's this big, uh, policymaking thing that the Southern Baptist

02:12:57.940 church has its representatives in and several of the other, uh, evangelical churches are in. And the

02:13:03.500 thing is wholly funded by George Soros. And like in 2014, yeah. And in 2014, I was, uh, around the time

02:13:14.960 that we were having the phenomenon of all these alleged children riding on top of the boxcars on

02:13:23.240 the trains through Mexico up to the border and they were crossing the border and we were shipping

02:13:28.280 them all over the United States. They had these nationwide protests and I attended them and

02:13:34.220 they had, at the time the government had just given a contract to the Southern Baptist church to take

02:13:43.080 this huge resort that had been built. And for some reason had never been opened down near Houston,

02:13:49.520 where, I mean, it's like they had golf courses and Olympic pools and spas and all that. And they

02:13:54.840 were going to house hundreds and hundreds of these alleged children in those. And it's the Southern

02:14:00.200 Baptist church behind that thing. And so it, you know, you can see where it's coming from. The thing is

02:14:06.700 these churches have been in decline for decades because when push came to shove and, you know,

02:14:13.060 like you were discussing at the beginning of the show, how the Mormon church did it, you know,

02:14:16.740 it's supposed to be immutable and unchangeable. But when the government pushed at them about,

02:14:22.000 well, you know, the Civil Rights Act of 1964 says that you have to allow blacks to join your church,

02:14:27.500 right? So it was basically the same thing, but for different reasons. When society started bumping

02:14:35.860 up against churches like the Baptist church and they started saying, you know, well, it can be against

02:14:40.900 your religion all day long to get divorced and remarried, but society says you can, instead of

02:14:47.180 sticking by their principles. And like when, when half the teenage girls in the church would show up

02:14:53.480 pregnant or whatever, instead of sticking by their principles, they would change these principles.

02:14:58.040 They'd say, well, you know, we got to be understanding. I mean, the world's changing and all

02:15:03.000 that. And the next thing you know, the pews start getting emptier and emptier. You know,

02:15:07.180 they're trying, they're, they're, they're bending their principles because they think that will fill

02:15:11.420 the pews, but it doesn't. And so they resort to the same mindset that corporations who want cheap

02:15:19.100 labor resort to. They say, well, let's bring in illegals. You know, the church brings, exactly,

02:15:29.160 they'll fill the pews. And, you know, so you go around and you find like, I go to Tyler and lots of

02:15:35.240 these old, uh, uh, every type of Protestant church that you can imagine, whether it's a Southern

02:15:40.640 Baptist type church or, um, a Pentecostal or anything, the ones in the old parts of town,

02:15:47.860 they don't convert to these Catholic churches. They convert into Spanish language churches. And

02:15:53.200 so, you know, that they're, they're trying to convert all these Catholic Mexicans. And of course,

02:15:57.320 the Catholic church is doing the same thing, but, but, you know, it's a perversion. It's just like

02:16:03.200 everything else in our society. It's a perversion. And I guess since we got to that point where it's

02:16:07.780 a perversion, let's talk about this other story I had brought up here. Uh, that, that is basically

02:16:12.920 the, this is the keystone to all the perversions that this is a headline and daily stormer faggot

02:16:18.720 Lindsey Graham, America is an idea, not a race. Now everybody knows about the whole shithole thing.

02:16:26.300 Trump said that, uh, he, he wanted to know why we're bringing in so many people from shithole

02:16:33.100 countries like Asia, not Asia, like Haiti and African countries. And that set off this whole,

02:16:40.220 uh, cuck explosion where everybody's like, Oh, I'm a proud shitholer. And, you know, people are

02:16:47.580 actually trying to, uh, claim there's some kind of, uh, similarity between their ancestors coming

02:16:55.220 from Ireland and, you know, some AIDS infested rabble, uh, you know, 65 IQ Haitians coming

02:17:02.820 here. Um, but from, this is from, uh, uh, says Trump's comments on shithole countries

02:17:11.280 were a siren call for cuckolds and kikes to crash against the rocks of Americanism. England

02:17:16.800 says from the New York times. It was just after president Trump had finished railing in the

02:17:22.200 Oval Office against African immigrants. He said came from shithole countries when a senior

02:17:28.080 Republican Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, who was there to negotiate a deal

02:17:33.280 on immigration spoke up. America is an idea, not a race. Mr. Graham said, according to three people

02:17:40.420 familiar with the exchange on Thursday, diversity was a strength. He said, not a weakness. And by the

02:17:47.400 way, the Senator added, he himself was a descendant of immigrants who came to the United States

02:17:52.820 from quote, shithole countries with no skills, unquote. Now my first response to that is the

02:18:01.860 name Graham to my knowledge is Scottish. And I would not call that at any point in, uh, history

02:18:09.420 since I guess the Romans went in there, um, a shithole country with no skills, but, uh, but,

02:18:18.260 but this is the foundation of where all this weirdness comes from. Um, you know, you go back

02:18:23.600 in Western history and, and through our greatest philosophers and everything, and a nation has always

02:18:31.360 been understood to be a cohesive group of people. I mean, it, Plato in the Republic said specifically,

02:18:39.360 it is the first duty of the ruler to safeguard the purity of the blood of the people. And what he's

02:18:48.100 saying there is, if you allow a lot of out groups to come in and be part of your nation, which the

02:18:55.960 word nation literally means race, uh, when you, when you break it down to its foundation, that you're not

02:19:02.440 going to have a cohesive society. You're not, you know, it's not some weird thing, you know, whenever

02:19:08.780 anybody, uh, who opposes ideas of, uh, racial integrity, uh, wants to, uh, frame it, they want

02:19:18.320 to frame it like it's some weird idea you've got about doing DNA tests on everybody and making sure

02:19:24.300 that they apply to some insane standard that you have for no reason other than you just want this

02:19:29.260 pure race. But the reason is you cannot have a functional society that is composed of all these

02:19:37.080 groups of divergent peoples without some type of extreme force. And this has been proven over and

02:19:44.200 over. I mean, like you look at the Balkans, all the former Yugoslavian countries. Well, you know,

02:19:50.720 everybody likes to point out, well, they got along together for decades. Oh yeah. Under the USSR, when

02:19:56.200 they had troops stationed on every street and they were forcing these people to move in together, like

02:20:02.060 they'd say, okay, in this house, we're going to have a Serb in this house, we're going to have a

02:20:05.940 Bosnian in this house. We're going to have a Croat. And it was this huge experiment they were doing and

02:20:10.680 they didn't allow anybody to have any free speech. They didn't allow it. You know, and they were

02:20:15.040 basically at the point of a gun, they were forcing these people to get along. The minute that force was

02:20:20.440 gone, it blew up into horrible violence. Uh, and, and it's the same thing anywhere else. And even

02:20:28.520 when you're in a system like we have right now, which I mean, arguably there is the violence. You

02:20:34.220 look at things like black on white crime and that sort of thing. Sure. There's tons of violence,

02:20:38.280 but we're not in like a, uh, a sectarian racial civil war at the moment, but we have our systems

02:20:47.860 completely subverted by it because this is allegedly a Republic, uh, with very limited powers,

02:20:54.980 but you're never going to have a limit on those powers because what you have is the mass group of

02:21:00.520 whites who are told you're not allowed to be collectivists. You know, we all have to adhere to

02:21:07.020 these ideas, right? But every other group that comes in sees itself as a competitor to that main group

02:21:15.920 of the public. And so they organize collectively and they lobby and they donate and they raise hell

02:21:22.600 in the courts. And so everybody wants their Gibbs. They want Gibbs of money. They want Gibbs of power.

02:21:28.240 They want Gibbs of special rights. And you see a system that was once the best system on earth

02:21:35.460 being run into the rock. Those people came from the shit. Right. And one, one thing about this that,

02:21:41.460 that I find interesting and I, I've not been paying attention to politics for that long,

02:21:46.800 maybe three years now. Right. But this whole, this whole notion of America is just an idea. America,

02:21:53.600 the great American experiment, it, a lot of this stuff keeps on coming out. It makes me think,

02:22:00.320 what are they trying to get at? What the fuck is really going on? And I, I hear it from Europe.

02:22:05.040 I hear it from people like, uh, Senator Graham. They, they, they want to say that this was just

02:22:11.520 an experiment, just an idea. And now we're going to change it. They don't refer to it as a nation,

02:22:16.740 as a real thing. And that kind of worries me. What is it that they're trying to get to? Are they

02:22:20.740 trying to destroy America? What is this about? Is this just, uh, them, you know, saying pop culture

02:22:25.780 stuff that they heard on the internet somewhere that this is the, you know, America is an idea is just

02:22:30.780 what people are saying these days. I don't know if they're getting at something more on this as,

02:22:34.980 or if it's something that, um, maybe I'm reading into too much, but I think that there's some

02:22:39.220 concerted effort here from the immigration, from everything to transform America, even under Trump

02:22:44.940 into something different. I just wish I knew what that is. Have you sensed that as well?

02:22:48.760 Well, yeah, I've sensed this for a long time. And the thing about it is, is it's not just pop culture

02:22:55.100 stuff. I mean, this stuff emanates, this stuff emanates out of like the Frankfurt school. This is,

02:23:00.780 yes, cultural Marxism. And the, the reason that I can say this is not just him spouting off

02:23:08.620 is that the specific person we're talking about here, Lindsey Graham is a powerful Senator who has

02:23:15.440 tried over and over to throw the borders open. And he's trying to do it again as we speak. You know,

02:23:21.720 he was part of the gang of eight that tried, that was trying to get the big amnesty after they had

02:23:28.040 already had the failed amnesty under Bush. You know, they tried to pull this under Bush and Bush

02:23:32.840 was all for it. And the only thing that stopped it was, I believe this was like 2006 or 2007,

02:23:39.580 they had this giant amnesty. They were going to give amnesty to everybody. And not only that,

02:23:44.220 they were going to reform the immigration system to where even more of these people were coming in.

02:23:48.160 And, uh, the thing that stopped, it was the American public was so against it that for the

02:23:54.580 first time in its history, angry callers shut down the congressional switchboards. So many people

02:24:00.840 called in, they overloaded that motherfucker. And, uh, and it scared the hell out of all these

02:24:07.120 senators. They knew, well, you know, uh, I mean, we may not be able to get all these new people in

02:24:12.300 here fast enough, uh, and registered to vote fast enough that we're all going to be run out of

02:24:16.880 office. And so that the thing stalled and it didn't happen. And then they tried it again with

02:24:23.940 the gang of eight. And it was basically the same thing. I mean, it didn't have to come down to,

02:24:27.900 uh, shutting down the congressional switchboards because the writing was basically on the wall

02:24:32.840 that, you know, the, the public was not going to go for this and he's trying to do it again.

02:24:38.600 And the thing is, you know, somebody's got something on these people. Either some of them,

02:24:48.020 I mean, like Lindsey Graham, he's obviously a homosexual. I mean, I'm not, I don't have ESP,

02:24:54.760 but I know a faggot when I see one. And Lindsey Graham is obviously a homosexual, but he is the

02:25:03.400 Republican senator from, is it South Carolina? Yeah. South Carolina. And his, his voters,

02:25:12.420 his base would never support a homosexual. Now, somebody, I would say probably somebody who keeps

02:25:19.060 kosher, uh, has the goods on him, you know, and this is very likely, very, very common. I mean,

02:25:27.140 I've had a lot of, I've had guests on my shows who have laid this stuff out, how you're not,

02:25:31.800 you really can't attain any high office. I mean, there are very few, even just like

02:25:36.300 congressmen in the house of representatives who don't have some kind of extreme dirt that somebody's

02:25:42.640 got on them that, that are the people who are the power brokers who provide the campaign money

02:25:48.040 and the media coverage and all that good stuff that gets people elected. And you just don't have

02:25:54.140 them that are not compromised. And that tells you a lot right there about people like Graham and

02:25:59.420 people like Cruz. There's no telling what, uh, you know, whatever, uh, particular lobbies it is

02:26:05.820 that are so for Israel have on Cruz to make him go out there. I mean, this is, he's supposed to be

02:26:12.660 this big libertarian leaning conservative and he's totally for the first amendment and all this stuff

02:26:18.320 until it comes to Israel. You know, when people have these strong ideologies about this liberty and

02:26:25.460 that liberty, but suddenly they have a blind spot about one particular aspect of it. And no matter

02:26:30.940 what liberty it is, the particular aspect of it is always the same thing. You have to kind of start

02:26:37.320 recognizing a pattern there. Yep. Well, the weird thing about this too, as is I, if I take a look at

02:26:42.440 these politicians and, and this is just me paying attention for like the last three years, but it

02:26:47.060 seems like there's been sort of a switch that something happened. They either, either they have these

02:26:51.820 people under a situation like blackmail per se or, or something, because these people switched at least

02:26:58.660 as I view from, you know, the seventies and eighties, maybe, um, maybe it was before that to this pro

02:27:04.440 immigration. America is just an idea. Let's open our borders. And it's all of them. It's everybody

02:27:10.160 was convinced of this ideology. How in the hell did this happen? Is it that they want votes? Is it that

02:27:16.280 they have, you know, blackmail material, or is it because somebody that's really good at convincing

02:27:21.460 them of an ideology came in there and said, this is what we're doing. And this is what America is

02:27:26.540 going to be in 2050, let's say. Right. And it makes me wonder, and I don't like to get into

02:27:30.500 conspiracy theories, but it's, it's either just Israel doing their meddling or there's something

02:27:35.440 bigger going on here. I see as let's just get rid of this thing and do something else. What is that

02:27:41.800 something else? And what the hell are they aiming at? Because it's everyone, right? Who taught them

02:27:46.100 this? Who put them into this? Was it Obama? Was it before, but it's all of them in unison that

02:27:51.300 they want this. And I don't know if the, I don't know if it's something as simple as,

02:27:54.780 you know, Lindsey Graham's a homo. So he has to vote this way. I think it's something

02:27:58.680 more sinister. And I hate to say that because I don't believe in these massive conspiracy

02:28:03.260 theories. Is it just Israel or that they have this grand plan with, you know, United Nations

02:28:08.480 or something that they don't want to tell the public that they just want to, you know,

02:28:12.020 get rid of the USA because fuck the USA. They consume too much. Right. I don't know.

02:28:16.120 What do you think on that?

02:28:18.280 Well, I mean, the, one of the main goals historically of cultural Marxism was, you know,

02:28:25.320 the end of the nation state and one form or another of world government. Yeah. And, and

02:28:32.420 you see people get caught all the time talking about this stuff when they think nobody's listening.

02:28:38.440 Like remember Hillary Clinton got caught speaking to some group of bankers or something like that,

02:28:45.340 got, got recorded. And it came out during the campaign where she was saying how they wanted,

02:28:52.000 she wanted to eliminate the borders of the United States and just open up the immigration and all

02:28:57.660 this stuff. And, and, and basically we were going to have like turn the whole world into the EU or

02:29:04.680 something. And I think, you know, it is a conspiracy theory to a certain extent, but there are enough

02:29:12.140 people who are on the record for this stuff that it is enough to give you pause. And, and

02:29:18.220 absolutely. I mean, um, as nationalists, you know, speaking for myself and my listeners and such as

02:29:25.280 nationalists, our chief enemy, when you boil it right down to its, uh, its essence is communists or,

02:29:34.800 you know, cultural Marxist, whatever you want to call it. And, uh, the cultural Marxism is the result

02:29:43.460 of hardcore political communism not working. Cause I'm sure as you know, uh, the cultural Marxism came

02:29:53.240 about because after the Bolshevik revolution in Russia, uh, the way that they were going to continue

02:30:00.400 the march of communism across the world was, you know, start this to get this big world war going.

02:30:06.620 And when the big world war got going was to foment revolution in the proletariat, the working class

02:30:13.540 of all these Western countries, these poor exploited workers. But what they didn't count on

02:30:18.340 was that the working class in Europe and North America were naturally nationalists. They loved their

02:30:24.300 country and they didn't throw, throw up their, uh, hands and say, okay, we're going to have a

02:30:29.020 revolution in our country. Instead of going to war in Europe, they said, no, no, you know, we're

02:30:33.480 nationalists and we're going to go fight for our country and all this stuff, you know, as misguided

02:30:38.180 as the war itself may have been. And so they realized, well, we're not going to be able to take it,

02:30:44.140 take the world over by force. And so they reverted to cultural Marxism, which was basically the Marxism

02:30:50.820 of marketing. And they, it's, and it's all been done by this incrementalism. They introduced this and

02:30:57.480 they introduced that. And, you know, you've got people like Edward Bernays, you know, he's was a

02:31:02.820 marketing genius. He's the guy who got everybody smoking cigarettes, right? And, uh, they've all

02:31:09.560 been pushing this stuff and they inject all these ideas and they use psychology against this. And

02:31:15.100 the, and the thing is it's called the Frankfurt school because it was a bunch of almost all Jews,

02:31:21.740 if not every one of them, psychologists and professors and things who formed this school

02:31:27.160 in Frankfurt to spread this ideology. And when, uh, Hitler and his people took over, they fled

02:31:34.480 and they found refuge in the United States. And, uh, to be honest with you, they've pretty much won,

02:31:41.760 you know, that, uh, they have, this country is not recognizable to anybody who was alive in say

02:31:50.080 the 1950s, even it's not recognizable. Yep. And that's, that's a, that's a scary fact because,

02:31:56.760 uh, I don't know where we're headed. And I don't know if there's an end because every single one of

02:32:00.100 these politicians, it doesn't matter who it is. They might be pro, you know, they might be tea

02:32:03.940 party. They might be this or that, but whenever they get up in power, they automatically turn into

02:32:08.700 these globalist weirdos. And I, I want to know if it's, if it's them being, if they really believe

02:32:13.580 this and why, what are the reasons for this? Really? Not just bullshit that they're spewing

02:32:17.960 out. Are they really convinced of this? Or is it because they have to, right? And I think some of

02:32:23.160 them are convinced of it. I think I, and I, and I question, why aren't they explaining this to the

02:32:27.140 public? Why don't they, instead of saying, we're going to have immigration, no matter what,

02:32:31.280 explain to me the benefit besides saying a diverse society is so great. Why, why the fuck do I want

02:32:36.980 these people here? They haven't yet explained that. And it's really, it's really odd because they keep

02:32:41.920 on going with the cultural Marxism route where they don't explain it. They just use marketing.

02:32:46.040 They say you're a Nazi and then it's done, right? There is no argument. You don't have any,

02:32:51.440 they don't try to explain why it's good, right? And it's really, it's really problematic. And I think

02:32:56.140 it's going to, I mean, if, if the alt-right and, and the extreme right survives this, they're going

02:33:00.720 to have a real problem on their hands, I would expect. Yeah. And, and I think we are going to

02:33:05.540 survive this. And I'll tell you, I think that a lot of the reason that, that all these policies and

02:33:10.720 such have accelerated so hard in recent years is because of the rise of the alt-right and,

02:33:19.440 you know, nationalism in general is a lot of this is panicking. I think they realize that we're at

02:33:26.840 the point, we're at the tipping point right now. I mean, things like, uh, this immigration policy

02:33:32.760 that could go either way right now, uh, whichever way it goes is going to make an impact on everything

02:33:41.720 that happens after it, that we, nobody in our lifetime has seen anything like it. And that's

02:33:48.680 not to say that if, that if it goes in a way we don't want it to, that we've lost, it means that

02:33:54.480 things are going to really change, you know, and, uh, like, I mean, we are at a, a Democrat,

02:34:02.500 a demographic, uh, choke point right now. If we don't do something to stop the non-whites coming

02:34:10.740 in and to get rid of a lot of them, then we may be at a point where, you know, electoral politics

02:34:18.860 is just lost to us. And I think Trump, and I think a lot of the, uh, more nationalist leaning

02:34:25.320 Republicans realize this, um, whether they'll voice it or not. That's the one hope that we have

02:34:32.720 is that a lot of these guys, they have to kind of tippy toe around what they actually think and what

02:34:40.380 they actually mean the same way that the same way that people who are trying to destroy us have to do,

02:34:45.560 but their votes and the legislation that they propose will tell the tale. I mean,

02:34:51.400 it really is encouraging that Trump is in there with this bipartisan group of senators shouting at

02:34:57.680 them about shitholders, you know, and, uh, and it's even, uh, I have to say, and I'm not a big fan

02:35:06.640 of Fox news. I mean, I, they're better, I guess, than CNN or whatever, but I, but I've never been a big

02:35:13.140 fan of Fox news, but I gotta say, at least they have several personalities on there who are actually

02:35:18.140 like, Oh yeah, he said shithole big deal. Right. I mean, that's a, that's kind of a, that's kind of a

02:35:24.380 huge thing. And, and they're absolutely right. I mean, I, I can't remember who I saw one of the

02:35:29.800 talking heads saying, well, you know, this is how, uh, you know, the regular guy out there, this is how

02:35:36.440 they're, when they're sitting in the bar talking about politics, this is exactly how they speak.

02:35:40.320 And he's right. Uh, and, and, um, but, but these are shithole countries and these are shithole

02:35:47.500 people who come from these shithole countries and they want, they want to flood our countries

02:35:51.560 from them with them because they have managed to enact universal suffrage. You know, the, the,

02:35:59.440 the last, uh, I guess, brick in the wall of universal suffrage was women's suffrage. But, you know,

02:36:06.020 before that there was, you know, suffrage for blacks and all after the civil war. Um, and, and, uh,

02:36:14.620 before that there was suffrage for people who owned no property and had no money and all that kind of

02:36:20.040 thing. But the America was not set up for universal suffrage. It was, it was set up mainly for white male

02:36:28.000 landowners to vote. And now that you've got universal suffrage, it is in the interest of people

02:36:33.580 who want to manipulate the democratic systems that we have to bring every low IQ third worlder in here

02:36:41.940 they can and get them all the right to vote. Because it's not just, I mean, it's real simple

02:36:46.700 minded the way that people frame this, especially those who are not in the alt-right where they're

02:36:51.240 like, well, if you get enough of these Mexicans and Haitians and Africans and all in here and

02:36:56.260 Middle Easterners, you're never going to have another Republican president. You're never going to have,

02:37:01.580 you know, you're going to turn Texas blue. Well, it's a lot worse than just you're turning the

02:37:06.540 country democratic because you probably, you probably will still have Republican presidents

02:37:12.720 and all. It's just that the Republican party will have to go communist.

02:37:15.460 No, exactly. And they likely will because that's what they do. Yeah. Um, they've been giving up for

02:37:20.440 years, right? Well, yeah. I mean, and, and they do these things. I mean, you had to, to think that

02:37:28.040 everything they're doing that they think they're doing it because it's a good idea to win elections

02:37:33.800 for these conservative principles and all is a good idea. Then you have to assume that every single

02:37:39.040 one of these people who have risen to these powerful positions is just retarded, right? They're just

02:37:44.340 stupid. And that can't be the case because like the Republican party, one of the things that they're

02:37:51.000 always doing is they'll take all their discretionary funds and spend it on minority outreach and the

02:38:00.120 minority outreach will always result in the softening of positions that while they really

02:38:05.200 have nothing to do with race, their positions that affect race, like you'll have, you know,

02:38:10.560 they'll soften their positions on welfare and they'll soften their positions on crime. I mean,

02:38:14.980 it, it was John Boehner right before he left his speaker of the house who was trying to let all

02:38:21.100 the black crack dealers out of federal prison. Yeah. No, it's completely insane. Yeah. And yeah. And

02:38:29.380 what they're doing is, and, and, and, you know, just to keep it on, it's a slogan level way of saying

02:38:35.380 it, but it's the absolute truth. They're trying to destroy the white race and they have been for a long

02:38:41.740 time because basically the white Aryan male has been the one bulwark against totalitarianism

02:38:49.000 throughout history. I mean, if you look at any other culture, even cultures that aren't stupid,

02:38:54.980 right? You look at these other cultures, they don't have any democratic traditions. Like the

02:39:00.040 Chinese aren't stupid, but they don't mind totalitarianism. They've, they've had it. Yep.

02:39:06.780 Throughout their existence. And that's actually a good point. We're the, uh, we're kind of the last

02:39:10.300 standard. Yeah, absolutely. And, and we're the only, the white, the white Aryan male, uh, is the

02:39:17.700 only, uh, demographic left in the West who has the power to turn this around. I believe we really do

02:39:24.140 have the power to turn this around, but we're, you know, we're people like us are going to have to keep

02:39:30.940 honing what we do. We're going to have to keep, uh, we're going to have to stay fluid and be able to

02:39:38.300 react to things, uh, and change our tactics as necessary. But I guess with that, we're going a

02:39:45.460 little long here and I guess we will go and see if we've got any questions or comments worth

02:39:53.640 going into. I'm sure we do. Okay. Um, these are going to be good. Yeah. Okay. This, this,

02:40:02.500 this one should be interesting. This is from Andy Adams. Who's at all right. Andy, he says,

02:40:09.400 dude, serious question. Just what in the hell exactly is it that I'm, I'm, I'm, uh, I'm a white

02:40:18.200 male. Um, yeah, I'm in, and that people ask, am I Jewish? No, not at all. I'm 100% white. It's,

02:40:25.460 uh, yeah, that that's as much as I can explain as, cause I know, I know that people are going to come

02:40:31.080 off and say this kid is autistic or there's something wrong with them. Uh, probably it's

02:40:35.940 just, uh, I have been through, um, I, I, and I can't, I don't like to say I've been through a lot

02:40:41.460 in life, but I've seen a lot of different perspectives and I've also, I mean, I attended

02:40:45.220 university for 10 years, right? So I have quite the education and, um, I would probably better

02:40:52.580 understood on the left, but the left is, uh, not doing what the academics, uh, show that should

02:41:01.320 be done with globalism. I mean, and it's like I said, with the example and not to get too much

02:41:05.180 into this, but it's like the, uh, Bitcoin price swing up and down because of global risk.

02:41:09.880 The Koreans do something in the price tanks for everybody, right? Um, this has been known

02:41:14.200 about in academia for a while in, in, uh, economics and finance. Uh, there's no way to control for

02:41:20.720 a global, globally connected, uh, financial system because one thing like that tanks everyone,

02:41:27.200 right? I mean, we are in some dangerous times. So anyways, the point is I am a white male. Um,

02:41:31.860 but I do come from, uh, if you were to look at it, an extreme left background. Um, but I do come

02:41:38.820 from a Christian family. So I'm kind of a mixture of a lot of things. Well, that's, that's more common

02:41:43.520 than you would think. I mean, yeah, that's what I suppose. Yeah. Well, you know that, um,

02:41:48.560 even people who don't come from a similar background as you, everybody kind of gets

02:41:54.520 churned through the same public school system and the same culture and everything.

02:41:58.500 And this has been going on forever. I mean, Winston Churchill, um, and I'm gonna, I'm,

02:42:03.840 I'm gonna mess up the quote, I'm sure. But one of his most famous quotes was, um, if you're not

02:42:10.660 a liberal, when you're young, you have no heart. And if you're not, uh, conservative,

02:42:16.860 when you're old, you have no brain. Well, it's basically the same thing with leftism versus,

02:42:21.960 you know, right wing. Um, everybody is a left winger when they're young, uh, for the most

02:42:29.100 part. I mean, I, I wasn't really, I, I got kind of halfway indoctrinated into it for a couple

02:42:34.180 of years, but, um, but never to the point that most people are. But, uh, and another way

02:42:41.000 of looking at this is, you know, uh, a lot of people have, they tell me, you know, before

02:42:46.340 I became a far right wing, alt-right neo-Nazi or whatever, I was a communist or I was a

02:42:53.240 Marxist, you know, and, and, and George Lincoln Rockwell, uh, a quote of his kind of explains

02:42:59.100 that, you know, he said, um, you've basically got, you've got people who believe in things.

02:43:05.660 You've got people who don't, and you've got the, you've got the Marxists on one end and

02:43:10.500 you've got the Nazis on the other. And in between, you've got the comic book readers,

02:43:14.840 the TV watchers and the bubble gum chewers. And he's saying basically they don't believe

02:43:18.080 in anything. And so, you know, you can see how somebody who has a tendency to believe

02:43:23.360 in things passionately could swing from one side to the other. But, you know, nationalism

02:43:27.600 as a philosophy is really supposed to be a third rail where you take the things that work

02:43:33.380 from each side and make a third path with it. Yep. Okay. Here's a, here's a question

02:43:39.580 from Grumpy NES, who is at same oldness, I guess, S-A-M-E-O-L-N-E-S. He says, I would

02:43:47.960 like to know why Microchip is so fascinated with birds. What is his favorite bird and why?

02:43:54.480 Oh my God. I didn't know you were fascinated with birds. No, I'm not. I'm not. This is a,

02:43:58.820 and I'll have to tell Sam that, well, she'll, she'll hear this. No. So, uh, a lot of people

02:44:04.120 in my, uh, direct messages, they'll, they'll make up these fascinating stories about me. Like

02:44:09.840 the stuff you heard, I guess I was, um, what was I? A naval intelligence officer or something.

02:44:14.080 I don't, I don't remember what you said, but it was something like that. I had a nude picture.

02:44:17.540 I was a West Point, a West Point instructor. Okay. West Point instructor. Right. So anyways,

02:44:22.680 this one was one I made up with, uh, that I'm a 50 year old man with, uh, and I have an avian,

02:44:29.680 uh, sanctuary and I love birds. And, um, and, uh, I have a house themed after pirates of the

02:44:36.660 Caribbean. Now this is all bullshit, but this is so I can spread more rumors about myself

02:44:40.700 and there's really no point to it, but it's funny when you get to see it somewhere and somebody

02:44:45.640 thinks you're that person. I mean, I've been accused of being everyone. So it's, uh, I don't

02:44:49.980 like birds. This is just one of those things that, um, uh, I was bored with and made up.

02:44:54.560 So there's your answer. Okay. Um, okay. Here's one from, uh, hope I'm pronouncing this correctly.

02:45:01.580 Cruciari Pepe, who is at cool forum name on Gab. He says, cryptocurrency is exhibiting all

02:45:09.640 the classic symptoms of an asset bubble. Why are you pushing crypto like conservative talk

02:45:15.560 radio pushes gold buy schemes? Have you heard of a pump and dump?

02:45:20.860 Yeah, I've heard of a pump and dump and I'm not pushing cryptocurrency. It's just what you're

02:45:25.080 going to see in my timeline is what I'm doing right now. If people think that I'm pushing it,

02:45:29.160 it's because, um, I talk in a way that sounds like I'm pushing something or for it because it's

02:45:36.060 very adamant and emotional, but I don't care if you invest or not. And I will say that over and over

02:45:40.340 again, you probably shouldn't invest, but I have no, I have nothing to gain by people investing.

02:45:45.480 I just get excited about things that I'm interested in.

02:45:48.740 Right. Well, I have, uh, pushed people to get into cryptocurrency, but not to invest because I

02:45:55.740 don't feel, I don't feel qualified to tell people what's going to make them money. And I don't want

02:46:00.600 to give them advice. It's going to lose them money. But I think everybody should, uh, you know, have a

02:46:05.840 few wallets where they have the ability to trade in a few different cryptocurrencies, if for no other

02:46:11.400 reason than to just be part of that extra economy. I mean, uh, and I have selfish reasons for this as

02:46:19.220 well. I mean, you know, the Jews took my PayPal, man. Oh, I know. And that's a good reason to invest.

02:46:26.740 But I think if you can afford to invest and you don't care about money, you losing, uh, about losing

02:46:31.620 money, then I think it's, it's fascinating to see how a market works that has, that is just fueled by

02:46:39.200 a populous sentiment, right? I mean, like I said, Koreans, they decided that they were going to

02:46:45.440 raid an exchange and attack the price worldwide. That's fascinating to me to watch. And it's even

02:46:50.300 more fascinating to feel that if you have money involved. Um, but, uh, that's just me that I like

02:46:55.380 to experience things, whether they're good or bad, but I wouldn't suggest anybody do that. Um,

02:46:59.900 unless you're, you can afford it. Well, and the, the psychology of it all is very interesting

02:47:05.940 because that's what it all basically is, is psychology. Uh, which I mean, if I understood

02:47:14.180 fully the psychology of it, I would be a rich man, which I don't, but I mean, before a cryptocurrency

02:47:19.700 ever existed, like when my dad retired, he became, uh, you know, basically as a hobby,

02:47:25.580 one of these day trader guys and you know, where they buy and sell the same day and he was pretty

02:47:32.240 good at it. And his thing was just totally psychology. He had the simplest plan you ever

02:47:37.280 saw. And he might not have like been making a million, but he was making money. And what it

02:47:41.240 was, was, um, the last time I was up at his house was like in the nineties watching him do this,

02:47:47.040 but, um, he would turn on CNBC in the morning. And there was one of the hosts on the main show

02:47:54.140 that they had a show in the morning where they were just following the stock market,

02:47:57.820 like commentate, like second to second, like commentators at a football game, follow the

02:48:03.200 game. And there was a particular one who was more influential than anybody else. And my dad would

02:48:08.640 have his, uh, trading interface open on his computer and he'd be waiting. And the second that

02:48:14.820 guy would mention a stock and say, I like it, he'd buy, buy, buy, buy, buy, buy. He'd just sit there and

02:48:20.380 watch it. And because that guy had said the name of that stock, it would go up for a little while.

02:48:24.860 And the minute it started going down, he'd sell and he'd make money at it. And, and that's,

02:48:29.680 I mean, that's very simplistic. And of course, with cryptocurrency, which I'm sure you understand

02:48:34.580 this stuff a lot better than I do. There's a lot of techno technological understanding that would,

02:48:39.300 that would help you with it. You know, I basically, it, you know, if I were to want to know,

02:48:44.560 uh, what the longterm stuff was, and especially if I was wanting to know about a new, uh, cryptocurrency

02:48:50.680 or something like that, I would have to consult somebody like weave or whatever and say, you

02:48:55.780 know, is this thing really secure? Is it, is the, will it really, uh, will the code really

02:49:01.640 do what they says it, say it will and everything, because I have zero understanding of this stuff.

02:49:06.260 Yep.

02:49:06.700 But, but it's basically, as far as the trading goes, it's all psychological. And that,

02:49:10.820 that has a lot to do with a lot of the, the problems with Bitcoin lately, like where,

02:49:15.740 you know, you try to spend $50 worth of Bitcoin and they want a $40 mining fee to transfer it because

02:49:22.820 it has taken off in the public consciousness. It's a total psychological thing. And people are

02:49:28.040 just beating down the doors to trade Bitcoin.

02:49:30.380 No, and that's the scary part about this is no matter how many classes in economics and finance

02:49:35.000 that I, that I took while in college, there is nothing in any type of research, academia or

02:49:41.400 whatever that can explain what's going on right now with Bitcoin and accurately predict a price.

02:49:47.180 It's all, it's all based on whatever society thinks that day. Right. Um, which is spooky because

02:49:53.660 even the fundamentals, even if you were to go ask weave and say, you know, is this secure? Like I'm

02:49:57.180 sure I would, I would expect that weave probably maybe likes Monero, for example. Right. No matter

02:50:03.000 how cool Monero is, Monero is, there might be just a bad feeling about it and people don't give a

02:50:08.820 fuck and they don't buy it. Right. Which is stupid. Right. There's a lot of cryptocurrencies

02:50:11.860 out there right now that are good ideas backed by good teams and their prices suck. And, uh,

02:50:17.720 I don't know if there's a way around that because, uh, this whole thing is driven by the mob and the

02:50:22.480 mob sometimes doesn't make the best choices, but, but I would be careful, uh, investing into any

02:50:27.560 cryptocurrency unless you're prepared to lose money. Yeah. Well, that's basically how it goes with

02:50:33.780 anything. Oh yeah. You know, being somebody who, who doesn't know much of, I mean, if you go,

02:50:38.560 and like, even if you buy into something safe, like a great big mutual fund, they have a disclaimer

02:50:44.880 on the contract sign that says, you know, you better be prepared to lose this money. Um, but

02:50:50.560 the other thing that I, just an observation of my own that may or may not be true. Um, I think one of

02:50:58.800 the problems with cryptocurrency overall is that there is a mob rush to create new ones that there's,

02:51:05.760 there's like 10 new ones every other day because everybody wants to jump on this bandwagon. And

02:51:11.680 the, the more of them there are, the more that it's going to dilute the buying power of all of

02:51:18.280 them until, you know, a certain core of them rises as the, uh, uh, uh, you know, the ones that

02:51:26.940 everybody wants, but, but tell me, you know, and I used to say this before, I mean, you know,

02:51:33.660 now that, uh, Bitcoin's being traded on future mark futures markets and stuff, I don't know what's

02:51:39.480 going to happen to it. And then the Asians are dicking with it and everything. But I used to,

02:51:44.740 uh, when people would ask me about it, I'd tell them, well, the one thing I know about all these

02:51:48.340 different cryptocurrencies is Bitcoin is the Coca-Cola of cryptocurrency. It's the one everybody

02:51:54.700 knows. And so that's the one, you know, that I'm confident, you know, and I'll hold on to and

02:52:01.020 everything. And of course I sold all mine and I got lucky that when I sold all mine, I sold it at

02:52:07.080 about 16 K. Yep. Well, a nearly 17 K. Uh, and as I've said, I didn't do it because I was so smart.

02:52:15.000 I did it because I had to have cash. I didn't have all that much, but you know, I'm being sued by the

02:52:20.220 Jews in Charlottesville and I got lawyers. Anyway, anyway, so, you know, I, I, I did that. And, um,

02:52:31.500 uh, you know, I don't know what's going to happen with Bitcoin now. And like you say,

02:52:35.580 you, you know, you don't, you're not a, the only problem with Bitcoin that I see is this, right?

02:52:41.860 It's like, if you, if you Coca-Cola, for example, let's say that it is like Coca-Cola,

02:52:46.320 Coca-Cola will probably, uh, do a product taste test, uh, to survey customers to say,

02:52:52.800 does this taste pretty good? And they'll say, yeah, that that's the one. And then they'll,

02:52:56.180 you know, maybe adjust their recipe over time or something because people find it delicious and

02:53:00.000 they'll be addicted to it. Right. The problem that I'm seeing with Bitcoin is, um,

02:53:04.840 some of these people using it, they, they, they take a drink of Bitcoin and they're like,

02:53:09.040 what the fuck? I just lost 40 bucks by transferring $50. Right. And I got 10 left.

02:53:12.960 It's, it's not the, the, the core developers aren't molding or changing to the public sentiment

02:53:21.200 or what would appeal to the average Joe. They're trying to make everybody fit into this box,

02:53:25.720 which I think is really a bad idea because, uh, the majority of consumers, let's say that this

02:53:31.720 gets broader adoption. They don't get, they don't, they don't give a damn if it's centralized

02:53:35.280 or decentralized. They don't, uh, they, they just swipe their card and they live their life

02:53:39.240 and believe in Jesus and die. Right. So this whole thing where, you know,

02:53:42.700 it's decentralized, that's appealing or it doesn't have any authority. I don't think

02:53:46.060 people give a shit. I think they care. What is this purpose? Why am I losing $40 every

02:53:50.740 transaction? They've got to fix some of this stuff with lightning network or something,

02:53:54.720 or it's going to stay into this weird cult of just, you know, fat nerds around the world

02:53:59.580 that use Bitcoin for things because it's nifty. Right. So that's my, that's my only,

02:54:05.020 that's my only problem with Bitcoin is if they're going to be like the Coca-Cola,

02:54:09.040 they have to live up to the advertising, the advertising that people expect in the corporate

02:54:13.080 world, at least these days is that the product actually serves a purpose and doesn't, you know,

02:54:18.120 rip them off, for example, and is something better than what they're currently using.

02:54:21.760 And I don't see that proposition being made yet because this idea of, well, you, you know,

02:54:27.060 for example, Monero, well, it's private. You can buy drugs with it. That's rad, but most people

02:54:32.700 aren't doing that. Like there's not a lot of people out there on the dark web buying drugs.

02:54:36.300 Most people are just drones living in society, scared of their own shadow because they might

02:54:41.040 be arrested or something. So they, they, they, you know, act well and they would never touch this

02:54:45.800 because they don't have a use for it. Right. So anyways, that's just my take on the whole crypto

02:54:49.300 thing. They have to come up with something useful if they want it to be spread to everybody,

02:54:54.080 because not everybody gives a shit about this decentralization thing at all or privacy,

02:54:57.980 just how people are. Right. Right. Okay. Um, here's one I'll, I'll answer this one first. I think this

02:55:07.520 is probably directed at both of us. Um, Tayton at Tayton T A Y T E N. He says, is accelerationism the

02:55:18.340 best option in Canada at the moment? Our faggot prime minister makes white people lot in life way worse.

02:55:25.320 Unlike the con cucks, which is a trap as they can serve nothing. Um, sounds kind of like America.

02:55:32.300 Who, who should Canadians vote for when the time comes? Keep in mind that the NCP can't win. He's

02:55:39.480 talking about the new constitution party of Canada and he linked it. And the little blurb says all

02:55:45.320 inclusive federal political party based on Christian liberation, national socialist ideology,

02:55:50.860 enshrining the rights of Canadians to life, blah, blah, blah. Well, here's, this is my take on that.

02:55:57.240 And I am not a Canadian and I don't follow Canadian politics that closely because like most all

02:56:04.380 Americans, I mean, who gives a shit, but that's a joke. Actually, I do care about Canada, but I mean,

02:56:12.720 I don't, I don't, I just, I can't keep up with what all's going on up there. I do know that

02:56:17.580 he's right. Trudeau is an Andy white faggot, but he's offering, these are the options he's offering.

02:56:25.820 Andrew Scheer, who I assume is the guy from this national socialist libertarian party,

02:56:35.260 Justin Trudeau, other stay home. All is lost. Well, okay. I'm assuming that most likely

02:56:41.980 the proper answer is other. And my answer to is accelerationism, the best option in Canada at the

02:56:49.520 moment. My answer to that is no. And for any listeners who don't know what accelerationism is,

02:56:55.160 accelerationism is the idea like that, uh, if Trump wasn't going to like go full, just full on,

02:57:04.680 like all presidential war powers and invoke the military option and run every non white out of

02:57:13.320 the country and all this kind of stuff that we should have just gone and voted for Hillary because

02:57:18.340 that she would make things so bad, so fast that it would wake all the white people up and we'd have

02:57:23.840 race war now and everything would be solved. I'm against that. That that's a silly idea because

02:57:29.980 we've seen that it doesn't work. I mean, uh, Obama was pretty accelerationist and for all the big talk

02:57:36.980 that people have always had about, well, if they do this, or if they do that, then we're going to rise

02:57:42.620 up and have a, you know, a bullets and blood revolution. Well, it doesn't happen. I mean, how many

02:57:48.640 at my whole life, I've seen all these bumper stickers and heard all these second amendment people

02:57:53.620 talk about my cold dead hands. If they ever come from my guns, they're going to have to pull them

02:57:58.920 from my cold dead hands. Well, there have been a couple of examples where they have come for the

02:58:03.880 guns. Um, the, uh, the milder example here is when Clinton or the Clinton administration and the

02:58:10.220 Congress under him outlawed everything they called assault weapons. Nobody, nobody threw a big

02:58:16.260 revolution over that. But the, the more extreme example was during hurricane Katrina, uh, they

02:58:24.340 declared an emergency down there and the governor, uh, called in the national guard and all the police

02:58:33.260 and all the national guard went around taking everybody's guns when they needed them the most.

02:58:40.820 And, uh, I mean, and it's not a conspiracy theory. It's like, you can go to the NRA's, uh,

02:58:46.960 YouTube channel and they've got all these videos of the cops just abusing the shit out of people and

02:58:51.400 taking their guns. And nobody, they didn't have to, to my knowledge, there was not one gun was

02:58:58.120 plucked from a cold dead hand. They were all taken from warm live hands. And this is understandable.

02:59:04.120 I mean, what good does it do you? I mean, are you going to get your second amendment right back

02:59:08.600 because you died for it that day as a, as a single individual, you know? And so, I mean,

02:59:15.820 it's the same thing. You, you can't depend on, well, we're going to vote in all the worst people

02:59:21.760 possible and they'll enact bad policies and that'll just make everybody revolt all at once.

02:59:29.160 No, what we have to do is we have to research the candidates and you vote for the one who will

02:59:35.340 do the least damage. If that's the best option you've got, whether they're lying to you or not,

02:59:41.160 the one that you believe will do the least damage, but because that is actually secondary

02:59:47.660 to everything that we talked about in the first half of this show, you, you try to get people in

02:59:54.580 there who will do as little damage as possible, which will give you more breathing space to take

03:00:00.420 part in this movement and spread awareness and educate the masses through online and IRL active.

03:00:08.120 And I agree with you on there as the thing is with accelerationism, I see that more as a,

03:00:12.420 as a sort of an ironic meme type thing. I know I've talked about it before, but on any insane or

03:00:20.400 extreme viewpoint that I have online, it's, it's most likely in real life that there, I have a very

03:00:26.620 nuanced view of it and it's, and it's likely not going to work as, as people think it is. The problem

03:00:31.300 with accelerationism too is, is you have to, if you, if we can't, if, if we couldn't as a group come

03:00:39.560 together and force that change to happen once things get bad, then you're screwed. You're, you're,

03:00:44.800 you're stuck with it. Right. And I, I think that these people are smart enough to keep the majority

03:00:49.360 of the public, uh, entranced in their stupidity that I don't think it would happen. Um, uh, the,

03:00:55.140 the, the downfall of society, I think it would just get worse and worse because as we've seen,

03:00:59.900 there's a lot of, there's a lot of people that are plugged into that matrix and they're not going

03:01:03.580 to unplug anytime soon. So I would suggest that you don't adhere to the accelerationism idea because

03:01:09.720 it's, uh, it's, it's one of those ideologies that's likely not going to happen. Um, I would

03:01:14.540 say the only case in which something like that could happen is if, uh, and this is, has nothing to do

03:01:19.140 with accelerationism, but a revolution would happen if, you know, food prices went up and people

03:01:23.420 started going hungry or something. I mean, these are cases that are likely not going to happen in

03:01:27.300 the USA. Um, maybe in some other shithole country they would, but I think it's a long stretch in any

03:01:33.500 place that's an advanced Western country like Canada or the United States. Okay. Yeah. So that's my take

03:01:40.040 on it. Well, and yeah. And the thing that we can't leave unsaid here is that say in the United States

03:01:50.600 or Canada, if you did go and created a movement where everybody purposely voted for the candidates

03:02:00.980 who would do the absolute worst things to us, it's just as likely that you would create an overarching

03:02:07.100 totalitarian system that you could never do anything about. So you gotta, you gotta, you have

03:02:13.760 to be certain that the acceleration is going to end with what you wanted. If not, you just screwed

03:02:18.220 yourself. It's the worst play ever. Um, if there are other options. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's, it's like

03:02:26.580 a Hail Mary pass when you don't have really have any receivers downfield. Um, okay. Well, there are

03:02:33.620 several other good questions, but, uh, we've, we've gone long. And so I'm going to ask one last question.

03:02:42.020 Uh, we couldn't go through all these questions without taking one. Okay. That's fine. So here

03:02:49.740 we go. Here we go. What is your biggest problem? Oh, he's asking me, I guess. I don't, I thought

03:02:56.360 he was asking you which one of these you are, but he says, what is your biggest problem with

03:03:01.980 the microchip account? Go for it. Ask your, yeah, the gay, that's gay, nigger lover, meth addict,

03:03:10.300 or all of the above. Well, I have to say, I, this question is unfair because I've, I've never

03:03:18.400 believed that my, unfortunately I'm not. Sorry guys. Um, yeah, this, this is, this is one of

03:03:26.140 those, uh, conundrums because I really like Pepe memes and microchip and I, I, I, I stand

03:03:34.780 with Rodney King on this one. Can't we all just get along? But, but, but anyway, uh,

03:03:40.960 yeah, Pepe memes, one of the greatest memers out there. Uh, sorry if I disappointed you,

03:03:46.240 Pepe, but I think, um, uh, it's been good that you came on here because I think that a

03:03:52.440 lot of people have just really, really, uh, uh, fallen victim in a hard, hard way to the

03:04:00.280 shitposting that you've been doing. And I don't plan on stopping by the way, hopefully

03:04:05.100 relieved. Yeah. Well, I, I don't blame you and I hope you don't because, um, anybody who

03:04:12.100 looks at, uh, my timeline on Gab can tell I really enjoy it. But this will normalize

03:04:16.240 something. Yeah. Uh, yeah. I mean, yeah. So anyway, um, uh, well, it's been great having

03:04:25.420 you on as I, as I stated before, you can find microchip on Gabbit at microchip. Um,

03:04:33.000 and I guess since there's, uh, not much else that you have to promote, we'll just close

03:04:38.560 it there. Everybody remember that the crypto report is not free, at least not to me. It's

03:04:44.720 free to you, the listener. So hopefully some of you will be willing to contribute to the

03:04:50.120 show. There are options to make contributions in the post below the show. We'll have

03:04:55.400 everybody's social media and everything linked there. Hope you enjoyed this show. Um, I prom,

03:05:01.740 as I stated, when I started doing the shows again, I promise you at minimum one a week,

03:05:06.320 I can't promise three every week like this, but I'm going to do as many of them as I can,

03:05:11.080 especially when I get great guests like I've gotten this week. So we'll see you for sure

03:05:16.980 by next Sunday and hopefully before then talk to you then.

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03:05:54.920 We'll be right back.

The Krypto Report - January 15, 2018

#27 - Tactical Navel-Gazing

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