#30 - Dominion and Supremacy
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Summary
In this episode of the Crypto Report, I am joined by Lee Rogers, host of the "alt-right" show on the "Charlottesville Show" and founder of The Stormer Book Club, to discuss the alt-right schism and how it has impacted the movement in general.
Transcript
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The sound you hear is what some experts claim to be a Bigfoot screen.
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It is regarded as the highest quality audio of the creature ever captured.
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By the river near an evil place, to fight the legions of their enemy, 30,000 down 300 men.
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But by God's hand they saw victory, on the frontier of the colony, men fall and die for freedom to sing, against all odds they overcame, so we could be here today.
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This episode of the Crypto Report on March 26, 2018, but you're probably listening to it on the 27th or later.
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I have an extra special guest returning back to the show for, I can't remember if this is the second or third time.
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I know he's been on at least once before, it seems like a couple times, but it's my good friend.
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it's lee rogers because the charlottesville show counts and you were my one of my co-hosts on the
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charlottesville show say hello to everybody lee hey man how's it going thanks for having me on
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again well well thanks for coming on it's um it's been a while uh since i've done a regular show
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there's been a regularly scheduled show and of course this isn't a regularly scheduled one this
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one will be coming out on tuesday or wednesday but um there's been a lot of really weird stuff
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uh going on and what for lack of a better word i guess we'll call the movement you know the alt
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right whatever it is and i've been really preoccupied with that and uh and have been working
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hard with the stormer book clubs we'll talk a little bit about that during the show some of the
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stuff the stormer book clubs have been up to but i guess we should just um get started off i know
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uh you were really busy so you weren't paying all that close attention to it but uh i don't think
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you could uh actually just even be a person who's interested uh even tangentially in the alt-right
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and not have seen the things that have gone on over the past couple of weeks we had a
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a schism i guess you'd call it and it's been a long time coming um it was this thing where
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the alt-right rose uh starting around 2015 it got huge during the trump campaign and then trump won
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and then we had 2017 and things kind of went off the rails you want to give a few thoughts on how
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things initially started going off the rails well it seems to me like after shartsville there's been uh
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i guess you could say some differing viewpoints as far as how we should be moving forward
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specifically as far as like tactics strategy branding and marketing goes and you have some
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people who believe that we should be out in the streets doing all sorts of marches and things
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like that you got our people who think that we should be focusing more on doing online stuff and
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doing i guess you could say more like flash mob type activism and things like that so
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there's definitely been uh some disagreements as far as how we should move forward and i don't
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think there's anything wrong with disagreements but one thing i noticed is that with this schism or
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this fracturing in the movement is that there's a lot of people who seem to be as obsessed with these
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differences that we have so technically i think a lot of us we agree with like 90 to 95 percent
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from a political perspective as far as what we want to see happen but there's a number of people who are
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obsessed with the five or ten percent that we disagree and they want to focus a hundred percent
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of their energy on those disagreements and that's just been at least from my perspective what i've been
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seeing happen especially over the past month i think over the past month we've really seen this kick
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into high gear yeah and if uh if i may characterize this with a cliche um what i see coming from the
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people who are so upset that we might criticize the in the streets crowd um is this tendency to insist
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upon doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result every time when you basically get the
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same result every time um i'm not against doing uh i real action actually getting out there in the
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streets the thing is i'm against the way that it's being done and i'll tell you why the way that the
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people on the other side of this argument have been doing these things is you go and you use your
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constitutional rights to force a rally on some city somewhere you know you get a permit and you
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take over a part of the downtown area you require that the local taxpayers uh pony up to provide police
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protection for you and then you show up out there in weird uniforms with either photoshopped flags
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uh you know that are flags that you designed on photoshop that represent whatever organization
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you're in or you know third rock imagery that kind of thing uh with guys in black uniforms
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who are um behaving in a way that i saw when i was young and that what happens is you announce it ahead
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of time so you way ahead of time so that you can get as many people to show as you possibly can you get
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if you're lucky at these things you get a hundred maybe two hundred people you know just based on
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the estimates i've heard i don't know that i've seen that many but you know whatever i'll take their
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word for it and during that time from when you announced when the event happens then you have all
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these organizations who go into gear and they get all the dedicated antiphon blm and on top of that
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they hire bums and all kinds of people to come and they bust them from all over the country they get
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you outnumbered ten to one they shout you down they make you look bad they make it look like that
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whatever it is you're doing has no support uh among the american people which it really doesn't i mean
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when you get out there and you're saying you know you're not flying american flags you're flying this
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alien looking stuff and you're looking like uh for lack of a better term i just keep saying you're
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looking like derrick vineyard from the first half of american history x uh basically the the
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stereotypical hollywood movie neo-nazi it's just in my opinion it's a bad thing and i'll tell you why
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it's not because i'm sitting here uh being an optics cuck saying oh well you know i don't think
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american people like this it's because this has happened before it was called white nationalism 1.0
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and it was going on in the 80s and through a good part of the 90s and it turned me off as a young
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man as a passionate young racist man i remember you know one of the big ones they had was this
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gathering of the nations or whatever they called it where they had aryan nations and all the clan and
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everything come to vider texas when they tried to force a black person into public housing in
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this city of vider and they got thousands of people came and it was covered in rolling stone just pages
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and pages of glossy photos of what was going on i looked at that and i was like man i don't want
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anything to do with these people and i don't want to join up with that and um so now we're doing it
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again um and i think this is where you know a lot of people have pointed out this isn't good um the the
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thing that that had the alt-right going so well is that it wasn't this movement of these super serious
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um neo-nazis and you know anti-american types it was you know um an upper middle class or not even
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upper middle class just a middle class and of course there were a lot of people that were
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uh you know from poor demographics and wealthier demographics but it was just it was a middle
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american thing of whites waking up uh being aware of the jq being aware of how they were being sold
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down the river by both parties coming up with the awesome memes backing trump which of course is we'll
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get to in later later on in the show hasn't worked out all that well but uh and then charlottesville
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happened like you said and somehow this is a justification for taking this movement that was
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on the rise and turning it into this thing that has never worked what are what are your thoughts
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one of the things that stuck out on me was watching some of the rallies that occurred post
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charlottesville and one of the recent ones it was the one up i think in michigan state university where
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you had richard spencer speaking and i was just looking at the video and the pictures from this
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event and i mean obviously since i follow the stuff closely i could tell who was who and what was going
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on but to me the average person looking at that they're not going to be able to tell who is the
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anti-fascist and who's the nationalist i mean they all look the same so i was looking at this and
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just from a marketing perspective i mean because let's face it i mean we're trying to market we're
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trying to sell our ideas to as many people as possible because that's the only way that we can
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achieve political power and actually change things and the average person looking at this shit they're
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just going to be like i don't want to be associated with either of these groups they look the same they
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didn't look like any average person walking on the street and it just had this whole i guess you could
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say this look that is just very off-putting it's not something that's going to attract a lot of
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people to want to join our nationalist movement it's just not um so that was one of the things that
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really stuck out to me when i saw that and i just don't think it's winning strategy as you said if if
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this is such a good idea how come it didn't attract the mass movement of people over the past 34 years
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yeah and and um and going back to that you know about just i mean the only nobody can really explain
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to us why it needs to be done i mean they so you know they'll quote goebbels and say you know he's
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got the quote which is absolutely true and i'll explain why it's true um one of his most famous
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quotes is uh who controls the streets controls the government right and that's absolutely true and
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it has nothing to do with fighting in the street with antifa because let me tell you nobody on either
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side of that fight no matter who wins it no matter how clearly or decisively they win it controls these
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streets the people who control these streets are the police and the police are the people that the
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government who controls this nation have chosen to control those streets whatever happens on those
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streets happens either because of the uh police action or inaction you know whatever they want
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whatever the people who control the police want happening on these streets is what's happening on
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these streets it doesn't matter if you get out and have a fight in it but um as far as the irl stuff goes
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yeah i think we need to be doing that but what we need to be doing is positioning ourselves
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to do it properly um one irl thing that we're we've been doing is we just had a nationwide flyering
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we've been been organizing the daily stormer book clubs for a couple of months now we have a nationwide
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network of them and we went out and did a flyering from coast to coast uh which got featured in a lot of
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jewish international jewish press it was in haritz it was in times of israel uh and it was in all in
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regular press over you know clark college in washington state got so triggered by these
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uh pro-gun flyers that were pointing out that jews are taking our guns and and you know made mention
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that these european style socialists that wayne la pierre of the nra talked about are were all jews
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uh that they had like a whole uh campus-wide uh round table type thing you know everything's
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stopped and and they had a big discussion to assure the students that they were all safe from this
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wrong thing uh so that's one kind another kind is the flash mob demo uh which if you choose your
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target properly is extremely effective the best example of that i can think of right now is the
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one that i did with patriot front and the guys from the dfw stormer book club down in houston at the
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houston anarchist book fair which we timed to happen as kit o'connell big anti-fob blogger uh out of
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austin was giving a lecture a workshop called punching nazis a guide to anti-fascist activism and
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it explicitly he was talking about not only the history of violence against people that they call
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fascists or nazis but it was advocating that yes literally go out there and punch nazis and by their
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count they had over 300 people inside uh and their security was redneck revolt you know these super
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uh claiming to be violent badass uh anifa who go around with their rivals and stuff and myself and
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about 30 guys like i said from patriot front and uh uh my guys from dfw stormer book club and i think
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a few guys from uh pool parties and such we had houston goilers i think that's a pool party about 30 of us
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show up and these 300 people barricade the doors and hide and it got all kinds of press uh we did it on
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a live stream which made it really exciting because i started the live stream before we even got there i
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explained on the live stream okay this is what we're doing uh you know so it builds up suspense
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what's going to happen and we we jumped out and roll out and you see what happens when these people
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aren't prepared and they aren't 10 to 1 on you they're afraid to come out and confront you it was
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great propaganda and another thing that we're going to be doing and you know we we constantly have our
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feelers out for things that are going to go when these people go out and they announce some big
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anti-american event that they're going to be having some demonstration uh or what
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whatever like that we just suddenly show up you know and counter demonstrate that thing and that's
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the kind of in real life activism that i think we need to be doing um but but the thing everybody
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doesn't understand about this is when you talk about irl activism you're still talking about
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internet activism because the internet for better or worse is the real world now and it it does you
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no good to get out and do some kind of street activism if you can't amplify that by having it
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on the internet and if you're going to have it on the internet you want to have victories you want
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to have things that uh you know embolden your people that charge them up that make them want to get
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involved that shows the enemy for what they are a bunch of sniveling cowards who don't have any real
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convictions or any guts and um and to do that you know we have to show the american people who we
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really are and i don't believe as a movement that we are these anti-americans and that gets to another
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uh thing that we're talking about here i'm sorry for going on so long i do have a great guest and i'm
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going to let you go for as long as you want here and secondly but the american nationalism thing
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now you know this thing has been and i i think badly described as a rebranding or whatever
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and a lot of people have accused us of becoming civ gnats or whatever because of it but the only
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thing that's a rebranding about it is that we changed the banner on the website we've always been
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about american nationalism that's always what i've wanted i i don't want to turn uh america into
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you know some larpy version of uh the third reich in the 1940s i'm a i'm an american and i'm a white
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nationalist and i truly believe these things that we're talking about i've always believed them
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america was founded as a nation for white people and this doesn't change any of the things that i
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believe or that we believe we our foremost problem is the jew and it wasn't just german national
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socialists who ever thought this they got their ideas from people like henry ford and madison grant
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and you know we've got to deal with that problem we've got to eliminate the jewish influence from
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our society we've got to turn america back into a white country uh you know and i'm not pushing this
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stupid uh baseball hot dogs apple pie and chevrolet patriotism of the boomers i'm pushing real
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based american nationalism that's what we're doing at daily stormer now i'm going to shut up let you go
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for a little bit lee yeah so um i think uh that's a lot of interesting stuff there um one of the
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things that i would encourage people to do is to check out ben garland's article on american nationalism
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that's up on the daily stormer in fact i think he's going to be doing a two-part series on it
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but i think uh his article really describes a lot of the stuff that you were talking about as far as
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what american nationalism actually is and a lot of the history behind it because as you said i mean if
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you look at the founding documents you look at what this country was founded on it was a country
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founded by and for white people that's just an historical fact so i don't understand why there
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is this push by these people to try to claim that we're somehow pushing civic nationalism and that
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we've compromised our political philosophies and ideologies i mean it's it's a total lie we're
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talking about the exact same things that we've been talking about for the past several years i've been
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personally running for the daily stormer since 2014 and the messaging on the site has not changed
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it's the same thing that we've been talking about for the past several years and this idea that
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we're promoting civic nationalism now it's a bunch of nonsense if you look at the daily stormer there's
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a there's a full section dedicated to the jewish problem there's also a full section dedicated to race
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war i mean these are these are things that you do not see civic nationalists talking about they avoid
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the whole concept of race they avoid the whole concept of the jewish problem they don't talk about
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any of these things but these are topics that are actively talked about on the daily stormer and
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american nationalism it's it embraces these things that are on the daily stormer as far as okay well we
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have to do something about these subversive jews and we have to get rid of this whole multicultural
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concept that's been promoted by the jews and we have to return to a situation where america is a
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white country that it's controlled by whites for whites so i think a lot of this stuff with civic
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nationalism it's something that people are pushing because they have their own agendas and they have
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their own ideas as far as what they want to do with the movement and i think a lot of the talk about it is
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highly disingenuous well yeah and and disingenuous is really a kind word for it um the people who are
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doing this fall into several camps in my opinion and it's up to the reader of their comments and such
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um to discern in their own judgment which of these camps they fall into you know first of all you've got
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a hard core of people who came into this movement early on um who are not in it to win it they're in it
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as like a subculture and they don't want it to get big it's just like you know say
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you have some subculture like the goths in the 90s right the last thing in the world they would
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have wanted would have been for everybody to become goths because the reason that they were dressing up
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like satanic fags and doing the things they that they were doing was because they were purposely
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trying to be edgy they were purposely trying to other themselves from the society that they felt
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rejected them and you know they were they were living off of that we're superior because we're
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other than them uh that's not what we're into here what we're into here is we want to normalize
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um and i'm going to use a term that a lot right now that a lot of people don't like being used
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used for us but i'm going to use it correctly we want to normalize the idea of white supremacy in
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america and and and by white supremacy i mean what it literally means when people talk about supremacy in
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this context they're talking about political hegemony and so even if you're a person who is totally into
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the idea of democracy then you would have to agree with that because uh historically and even now
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whites are the majority of the united states which is allegedly a democracy and if the majority does
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not hold political hegemony in a democracy then is it even a democracy and that's not me endorsing
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democracy that's me saying america is a white country and whites should be in control of it we should
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be by far the super majority of it you know i mean super duper majority of it and and until 1965 that
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was actually the law but then you have these other groups of people you have the larpers okay and there's
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some crossover with that first group of people that i'm talking about who just want an edgy subculture
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but you've got these larpers who probably legitimately believe that if they quote mein comp often enough
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if they post enough swastikas and um argue in enough broken german that they're getting from google
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translate and shit like that online that that somehow is going to win people over well that you're there's
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either something wrong with your mind if you think that that's the case or you have lived in this
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internet bubble which is a very real thing you know you can get into an internet and i've been in it
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myself before too where you can get into an internet bubble where you're only interacting with other
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people who agree with you uh and it makes you believe things about the world in general that are not true
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and then you have the more sinister types you have the these interests who aren't necessarily
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on board with what we're doing but that their modus operandi is to pretend they are and to infiltrate
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larger groups to try to influence these groups to do things that fit their agenda and then right
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alongside them you have the subverters the subverters being of several types you've got the
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jidf types uh you've got the anifa types and you've got the feds actual active feds who will pretend
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to be us and who will say and do provocative things for various reasons you know with the with the
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jidf uh and anti-white type provocateurs it'll be to get to both by their posts and by the responses that
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they get to their posts and hopefully by the influence that they're able to exert on the
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communities that they keep us looking ridiculous they keep us from doing anything productive and
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moving forward uh and with the feds there's a little bit of crossover with that you know cointelpro had a
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lot to do with promoting people who had the work you know in the 60s with the with the the hard left
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communist type groups uh and 70s uh promoting the leader as leaders and such the people who would
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completely derail the movements making them look bad uh but also posting provocative things online
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and getting people to respond so that they can come up with you know oh yeah this guy's dangerous look
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what he said and that guy's dangerous look what he said this whole forum's dangerous look what they said
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let's backtrack them and get warrants and all you know to surveil them and that kind of stuff so
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there's all kinds of reasons that this stuff goes on and people who are honest uh pro-whites you know
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whatever faction of the alt-right or the nationalist movement pro-white movement whatever you want to
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call it that they feel that they're in they get drawn into these things because these are psychological
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operations and they're they're well-tuned they've had tons of research behind them lots of money poured into
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the research they've had decades to do this stuff and and you've just got regular honest guys out there
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who are getting influenced by this stuff uh and i don't know other than talking about it like we're
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doing right now i don't know what the solution is but but people really need to check that stuff out
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and there's there's a post that's like a pinned post over on the trs 50 forum that lays out the the
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exact strategies i believe it's taken from a hand from a handbook uh some type of government
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handbook on disrupting these forums uh and i'll link to that in the in the post with this show
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but but these people fall into all these different categories and the worst thing that we can do is
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allow our movement to be derailed by that which i think to a great degree uh certainly not beyond
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redemption but to a great degree it has been now we we are still growing the readers of daily stormer
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and the listeners of trs and all the listeners of this show um it's still going up but less and less
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people are uh are willing to you know publicly say you know proclaim i'm all right and all and and who
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can blame them i mean after after the way things have gone over the last year and we just cannot allow
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our forums and our social media platforms and everything to become fertile ground for these
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jidf these larpers and these feds who whether they intend to or not are all working in concert
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to wreck this movement your thoughts yeah no i think you said it really well and uh you know it's
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interesting you see this type of thing happen with any sort of movement that isn't in the mainstream
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you oftentimes with these movements that aren't mainstream it attracts an element of people who
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are i mean for the lack of a better term something off of them you you get some crazy people that want
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to be a part of it so i think there's some element of that as well but i mean all the same all the
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things that you described i saw the same stuff happen back in the 2000s with the the 9-11 truth
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movement and it was interesting how you would see that these people would come in and they would come
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to a group of people who agree that yeah there's some questions about the 9-11 attacks and let's
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see if we get to the bottom what's going on and they would inject a specific theory as far as what
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they believed happened and if people didn't 100 agree with that theory they would try to start fights
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among different people and and different organizations and groups that were part of this
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to try to stir up dissent and to make the whole movement look foolish and we're seeing a very
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similar thing happen with the nationalist movement today and it's obviously it's a little bit
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different because it's a not like the 9-11 truth movement but i mean the the tactics that are being
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used to derail the movement is very similar to what i saw in the 2000s and i'm not sure what the answer
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is exactly but i think the one thing that is really key to understand is that you could accuse anybody
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of being any sort of things like because you say okay that person's a fed that person's whatever
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but i mean to me what you should do is you should look at the person's contributions as a whole
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if the person is contributing something that's positive to the movement and doing positive things
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then you should look at that and say okay well this person is doing something that's good and
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i should trust this person because of the body of work they've contributed when you see these people
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that just come in and haven't contributed anything of substance but are acting like they have all the
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answers and trying to divide people as far as okay well if you don't agree with me 100 on branding
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on strategy or tactics then you're x y and z you need to immediately disregard those people you have
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to judge people based on body of the work otherwise i mean you're going to be going crazy trying to
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figure out okay well who's on the up and up and who's doing good stuff and who's this and who's that
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and it just takes too much energy to figure out so i like to look at what people are contributing to
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judge their value as far as what they are contributing to the movement and and how they are
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how good of an asset they are for the movement in general yeah absolutely and and i might also add
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you know uh and i don't disagree with what you said or the use of the term but i want to put a qualifier
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on that when you said you know look at what they've done and decide if you can trust them
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um you know by this trust i'm not like demanding that anybody like trust me uh to be some kind of
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a leader of anything or anything like that i've never asked for that and and that's where a lot of
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this um uh backlash comes from and i'm not just talking about me necessarily but i can only speak for
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myself is that you know we we get these critiques of us um that are like this guy can't be the leader
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because x x x and x and i'm like you know do you see me running for office or do you see me saying
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um you people need to make me your leader you know i haven't done that i'm a guy who has an opinion
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i'm uh i'm a guy who has a microphone and a show with some listeners and i write for daily stormer
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um and i'm i'm really involved with the the stormer book clubs trying to get that all organized and
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everything but i'm not trying to get anybody to elect me fewer i don't think i'm qualified for that
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and even if i were i fully admit that i have a past that basically disqualifies me from it but
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because you know once you tried to push somebody like me on the normies they'd be like oh no look at
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this guy's mug shots you know all that shit but uh um you know so but that's that's a really really
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dishonest line of attack that people try to come at us with you know we can't trust this guy to be
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our leader you know i mean i think the the trust that we're talking about here is i think you know
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you have to decide whether you can trust that what we're telling you is what we really think because
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i mean i've seen some crazy stuff out there especially on gab over the last few days i mean
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there are people who have these whole conspiracy theories about us uh like this one guy you know
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he's he's talking about well you know they had this plan where first they would present as as good
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nazis and and they'd get us all on board and then they would wreck the entire movement by turning it
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into this crazy civ net american nationalist thing and and and ricky vaughn's behind it all and who
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knows who else and and it's all really crazy stuff and and and this thing about ricky vaughn if i could
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touch on that for a second because it seems to be like the touchstone these people keep accusing us
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of conspiring with ricky vaughn that daily stormer takes its uh order marching orders from ricky vaughn and
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all that that that is the craziest thing daily stormer has never even been associated with ricky
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vaughn the the only uh and and that's not to say i don't like the guy uh as i mean i don't know him
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personally but i've like followed him on on social media for a couple of years and i think he's been a net
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positive uh to the alt-right he definitely was during the trump election um but i had him on my show
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once when when the controversy first started because he was attacking uh you know trolling
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people on gab calling them wig nats and this and that and people started accusing him of being a
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civic nationalist and all i had him on my show i had him on i can't remember if it was a full two or three
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hours it was it was one or the other and all we did was discuss uh ideology and while he may have
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pushed presenting as a civic nationalist this or that we can't we pretty much came to the conclusion
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that he's not that he's not for the jews he's not for this idea that everybody should just be able to
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come here and no matter who they are what they are as long as they can get here then and then we should
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give them some citizenship papers and teach them the constitution and they're just as good an american
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as thomas jefferson or whatever that's that's not what he's about at all and i'm not going to sit
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here and defend him but the thing i'm pointing out is that is you know other than maybe he's a member
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of the bbs and comments on the bbs sometimes that is the only connection that daily stormer has ever had
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with him and i started taking a lot of flack because i had him on my show and i didn't scream
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at him that i was going to throw him in a gas chamber and all this and um you know the people
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who people who think that they can dictate who's going to be on my show or who think that i should
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only ever have people on my show that i disagree with are going to be very disappointed because
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i do like having people on my show that i completely agree with i've got one on here right
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now and it makes for a great show but i would if i could get more of them i would dearly love to
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have people who disagree with me that i could get on this show uh and and actually you know have a
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back and forth you know not necessarily a formal debate but you know an informal debate with them
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because i know that i'm right i would i would like to allow this type of debate on my show
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because i know that if i if i'm any good at expressing our ideas that our ideas are going to
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win out because they're correct and uh so you know this whole idea that we have to just be
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this insular thing and only have guests that uh every single person who whoever posts uh reply
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under the show or something uh is somebody that they would want to go have dinner with or something
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like that is ridiculous and it's not going to happen uh and you know if you don't think if you
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don't like the show when i do that kind of thing then all i can do is suggest that well you know go
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ahead and don't listen if you don't want or go ahead and and and write those comments under the
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show about how i'm going to be responsible for the destruction of the white race because i had
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microchip on or something like that but um uh it's just not happening um i guess i'll throw it over to
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you there yeah i know you touched upon a lot um yeah you're right about ricky vaughn i mean he has
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absolutely no link whatsoever as far as writing articles or doing anything editorial wise on the
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daily stormer i mean it's just an absurd theory that people have been throwing around i mean i've
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heard all sorts of crazy stuff over the past month or so just looking at some of the things that
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have been going on on social media and on gab in particular um but yeah i mean uh it's it's hard to
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say exactly uh why these people are doing all these things i'm sure they got different agendas
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and different things going on but um you know like i said before i look at these people who are
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putting out all these theories and creating all this dissension and usually it's people who have not
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contributed any sort of real work to the movement don't have any sort of website they don't have any
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podcasts or they've really contributed nothing all they're doing is just posting shit on social media
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that's the extent of their involvement so it's really hard for me to take people like that
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seriously when that's all they're contributing to the cause and look i'm not saying that that's a bad
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thing if that's the only thing that you can do the only thing you want to do i'm not saying that's a
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bad thing but i mean when you're throwing these accusations out there like this trying to create this big
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issue or make a big thing out of something that is relatively minor on the grand scheme of things
00:43:34.260
like i was saying before you know okay so you agree with us on like 95 percent of everything we talk
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about but you want to make a big deal out of the five percent that you disagree with us on i mean
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that to me it just shows that there's something going on here that's not right and you're just doing
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this to stir up trouble and the fact of the matter is that if you think your strategies and your tactics
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and your ideas are so superior there's nothing stopping you from setting up your own platform
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doing your own podcast starting your own organization and if your ideas and your strategies
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are that much better than what we are doing then i'm sure they'll win out in the end because you'll
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prove to us wrong through your actions that your strategies and your tactics were that much better
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but these people aren't doing any of that they're just talking shit on gab they're coming up with
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these conspiracy theories about us and the whole thing is insane yeah it really is and and let me
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touch on that a second because i have a good example of that uh that i think will will just bring
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complete clarity to this what these people want and i think that they acknowledge to themselves in their
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own minds that they can't do what we're doing themselves that which i mean what they think
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they can do is that they can either tell us how to do it better than we're doing it even though they
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can't do it in the first place or they think that they can take what we have and make it better and the
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example that i wanted to give is you know we just i just posted a few days ago the big article with
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all the pictures from from the uh from the operation gun grabbing jew uh flyer campaign
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yeah and and i noticed a comment that a guy had put in he was a guy who was really critical
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telling us how these flyers aren't going to amount to anything because blah blah blah blah blah blah blah
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and then he comes back you know he's arguing with somebody else on the bbs and he comes back and he
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says well uh i offered to start a stormer book club in my area but they told me they're not interested
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because i told them that i'm not wearing any uniform and i'm not doing any meetings and i'm not posting
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any flyers but and i'm not doing any counter protests or any flash mob protests or any of that
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but what i want to do is xxx and x and he named off a bunch of things that i mean i don't if i thought
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they they were something or if other people involved with the stormer book clubs thought they were
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something that was such a great idea i promise you we'd be doing it uh and so i asked the guy i'm like
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why would you even be making a big deal about this of course we don't want you
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you know we have a program that we've set up we've worked hard on it we've brainstormed on it a lot
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and you know we have certain a certain type of organizing that we do there's a reason for these clubs
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and for having these meetings there's a lot of reasons for them and there's a reason for the uniform
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there's a reason we do flyers there's a reason we do these other things so why would you want to come
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join our thing and call yourself stormer book club but refuse to do any of those things and just have
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your own agenda off there by yourself doing these other things that we don't do why wouldn't you just
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go and do those things and call it whatever you want why is it such a big deal that we give
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lend our name to it well the reason is because you know that without our name it won't work but what
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i'm telling you is even if it had our name it wouldn't work but you know you you a lot of people
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want to claim that who are not stormer book clubs have tried to claim that they were stormer book clubs
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so that because the name daily stormer being attached to it gets people interested and you know that that's
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all i can figure is you know they're like well i mean i've got all these great ideas but they only
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work if daily stormer pushes them you know and the thing is if those ideas would work we would we would
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push the shit out oh i'm sure and well i mean there's a lot of people like that it just boils down to the
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fact that they know deep down that they can't do these things so they just want to be a critic
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and they want to point out all these things that they think they could do better but i mean it's
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one of those things it's easy to talk i mean it's a lot more difficult to actually take action and do
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things and i think the results speak for themselves i mean the stormer book club operation that you guys
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just did it got a ton of mainstream press got a ton of coverage and if you have the mainstream press
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and these jewish controlled media outlets taking the time to mention you by name or mentioning
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something that you did that shows that you're doing something positive for the cause as far as
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i'm concerned i mean i've had a few articles i've posted i didn't really think anything of it
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and uh then one day i i saw that the israeli press started talking about some things that i
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posted about something that happened going on in israel their politics and uh it made i guess the
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jerusalem post and a few other israeli websites and papers and uh when you know when they mention
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you by name and they reference your work that you're doing something positive and uh i mean these
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anonymous people who are being critics of all these things that we're doing i don't think any of these
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people really have the gumption to do the things that we're doing they don't want to put the time
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into it they don't want to put the energy into it and so they just want to be a critic and it's easy
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to be a critic or a monday morning quarterback when you're looking at all these things i mean none of
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us are perfect but i'll tell you one thing at least we're doing something and i think we're doing a
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lot of positive things with not only the activism that the book clubs are doing but also the articles
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the podcasts everything else that we do so but again i mean you know i just go back to the fact that
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if you really think that you can do something better there is nothing stopping you from doing
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your own thing set up your own operation your own organization your own podcast your website
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whatever i mean it just takes a little bit of time and effort to do it and if you don't want to go
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through and do it then i mean really i think that says it all yeah absolutely and and i'm not even
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saying that the way stormer book club does things is the only way to do things i i'm i'm just saying
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that you know that's the way that stormer book club is doing things you've got guys out there
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who are doing things some in a more similar way than others but who are doing them differently
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who are doing great work you got patriot front out there uh you got trs organizing these pool parties
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and things and and you know i'm sure there are other groups that uh i'm not thinking of right now
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and you know they're not trying to latch on to anybody else they have firm beliefs uh not only about
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their their ideology and their politics and all that but of you know how they want to implement
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those things and i'm perfectly happy to support these guys and have supported these guys i'm not
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one of them uh but but i'm happy to work with people like that and promote their stuff um because they
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you know they're going out there and they're proving it you know there's uh i can't remember exactly
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where it comes from i think it's from some old negro soul song or something like that from the
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70s but the line the line goes it don't mean nothing till you prove it all night long and that really
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does apply i mean all this stuff that you're talking you know i mean it's one thing if you're
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supporting people who are doing things but if you're if you're criticizing people who are doing
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things well fine you know i mean i can take the criticism but you ought to take that criticism
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and go and apply the things that you're saying should be done uh in your own life you know find
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these people who agree with you uh and go out there and do things i i support everyone in doing that
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and that brings me to another uh point that i want us to discuss a little bit before we move off of this
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and talk about a little bit of uh normie politics and by normie politics i mean the type of stuff that you
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can hear about on fox news and cnn instead of just this movement stuff which i'm sure most everybody's
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getting sick of but i know they want you know they're interested to hear my take and your take
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on it because we haven't well i mean i've been in some of these threads slinging mud as i want to do
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when it gets slung at us but you know i haven't really given you know just sat and given my thought
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out uh collected response to these things on the radio as i've done tonight but that is the idea
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that because someone is ostensibly pro-white that no matter what they're doing or how they're doing it
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we cannot criticize them and this falls under catchphrases such as no infighting and never punch
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right and what i have been saying and what i will continue to say is
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this is a bad idea uh it's a bad policy and i and at one time i was an adherent of this idea myself
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uh and the reason being when the movement was small when it was just getting started
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all anybody did was fight uh which i mean i'm not saying it doesn't happen now obviously after what
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we've been talking about but all anybody did was fight and nobody had a real purchase on the
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culture and you're like man let's don't all fight let's work together let's try to let's try to build
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a movement and all this well the problem with this idea especially now that we actually have
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the beginnings of a real movement going is that this don't criticize anyone as long as they say
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they're pro-white that only helps the lowest common denominator and it damages everyone else
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it's it's basically like saying okay you've got a professional basketball team
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but you cannot criticize and so you may have a guy on the team who is crippled in a wheelchair but he has
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to be allowed to go out there and play every bit as much as the guy who was the the top basketball
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player in the ncaa right it it doesn't make it you know you can't even say anything about it
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and when you do that you're providing to the public at large the idea that you approve of all these things
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you're not you're not presenting some kind of a unified front to them uh that makes them think oh
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well they're just all trying to not criticize these people no like if we don't criticize the kkk
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going out in pointy hoods uh and screaming look out nigger the clan's getting bigger for every
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media outlet that'll come out when you say well i don't think that's good optics
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you know if we say oh hey everybody look the clan awesome yay then that's what we get branded as
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that's how the media works and if a thing is detrimental to us and we see it as being detrimental
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to us and we can't get any kind of uh influence behind the scenes about it uh or it for whatever
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reason it just keeps going on we have a readership and a listenership and it skews very young
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and it's our responsibility to let these people know we don't think this is a good idea for you
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to get involved in this you know there's a lot of reasons that we should be allowed to criticize
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especially when we do so respectfully and i will be the first person to admit that it hasn't been all
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that respectful these last few weeks and i've been one of the people who wasn't all that respectful but
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it was this whole shit show thing that devolved into personalities which was a really i mean that was
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counterproductive but you know shit happens people get mad but it's it didn't start off that way it
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started off as criticism very polite criticism on daily stormer not of people but of certain tactics
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and ways of doing things and telling our readers that you know hey we think maybe you know this is not
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the type of thing that we recommend you get involved with and the people who were being
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criticized were like oh my god how can you attack us this way and it's you know it's been going on for
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months and hopefully it's all over now whether or not it is all over you're not going to be uh hearing
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from me going on and on about this anymore um the this is this has derailed what what i've been doing
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just speaking for myself it's derailed what i've been doing long enough and it's time uh for me
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to start doing the work that i've been doing for several years now where i'm doing positive work
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uh i'm putting out good content and focusing on that because i i think we pretty much
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uh have got this thing settled that people on the one camp can go to their camp and they can
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snipe at us all they want uh i know i'm not going to let them do it on any platform i have control
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over but they're welcome to do it wherever uh i'm not even logging on to gab anymore because i just
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don't want to get into it with these people and gab has become a very ugly place these you know a lot
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of these people have been exiled from daily stormer and trs and they've all gone and gathered up on gab
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and um it's just not something that uh i feel like participating in anymore that's not to say
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i'll never log back on gab again but uh it's been too much of a time waster and i i and like i say i
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need to uh focus on my work and what i'm doing so that that's where i'm at uh any thoughts you want
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to give on that lee before we get to the news and all that yeah most definitely i think one of the
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things that's interesting about what's happened is that you're right i mean the there was some
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constructive criticism that was posted on the daily stormer about tactic strategy branding and so
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forth and so on and uh it was really interesting to see how a lot of people just flew off the handle
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like it was some sort of personal attack on their manhood because they disagreed with the strategies
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that were being promoted on the website and acted like it was like some real insult and to me that's
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that's that's a real feminine behavior when you do that i mean look i mean nobody's perfect and if
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you can't take constructive criticism then there's a real issue there because i mean i'll just give you
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an example i mean there there's stuff that i posted for the daily stormer that i wanted to get published
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up there and uh there's sometimes that anglin doesn't like something that i wrote so we won't publish it
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because of of some reason or whatever and i don't i don't go crazy and start crying about it like oh
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my god you didn't post my article this is the worst thing ever i mean give me a break and that's the
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type of shit that we're seeing from a lot of these people where it's like okay this minor criticism we
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have strategy tactics and whatever a disagreement again i go back to what we were talking about earlier
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where okay there's like a five percent disagreement that we have and these people want to focus a
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hundred percent of their energy on that small disagreement that we have and it's again it's
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very feminine behavior i don't know how else to describe it i mean i i've seen i've seen teenage girls
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act better than this when when criticized on something so this whole situation i find to be
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completely insane and it goes back to another point i want to make and that's the fact that
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we're a bigger movement now so we don't have to just invite anybody in to be part of our organizations
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and the things that we're trying to do we want quality people it's not about quantity because if
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you're just letting anybody in like i'll give you an example okay let's say that you have a business
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business okay and you're trying to bring employees into your business okay i mean are you just going
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to accept anybody off the streets to be part of your business just because this person will take
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the job no i mean you want to bring in quality people so those quality people will help your
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business grow and you'll be able to make more money and it's no different with a political movement
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we want quality people that can help push the movement ahead to the next level so it will attract
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additional quality people and then it will feed on itself and it'll snowball to the point where
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we can actually make some positive political changes so all these people that can't take any
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basic constructive criticism polite constructive criticism honestly i'm not even sure that you're
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really much of an asset to the movement if you're going to become unhinged go crazy because of the
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fact that there's a minor disagreement over something you know we should be communicating with each
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other like men and if there's a disagreement okay let's hash it out let's come to an
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agreement on what is the best way to move forward and if you can't come to an agreement well then go
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your separate ways and then you do your thing and we'll do our own thing and this shouldn't be a
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complicated thing but unfortunately it's just something that comes with territory when you have
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these political movements that haven't quite yet reached the mainstream just something that we have
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to work through yeah absolutely and i guess i i will uh my final word on this for myself is
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that i intend to be totally non-hypocritical about this and always have been now if you criticize me
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i may not agree with your criticism and if i feel like your criticism is bad faith criticism
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uh i may respond aggressively to that but you have never heard and will never hear me say
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i'm pro-white we're on the same team you are not allowed to criticize me and that you want you
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don't ever hear me say that that's ridiculous and if you have honest criticism for me i'm perfectly
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willing to hear it always because um i'm sure based on the quality of things i do you might not be able
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to tell but i'm always thinking about you know what am i doing wrong that i need to completely change
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and what am i doing right that i need to improve on i'm always thinking about that and i may not agree
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with your criticism but i often do people will point things out to me and i'm like yeah you know good
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idea good call uh i'll remember that so anyway uh let's move on to the news we've got about
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10 minutes left you agreed to come on for an hour tonight and uh you know we're gonna have a short
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show which uh like i said when we were talking about it before an hour of show is way better than
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no show definitely which has been what people have been with yeah which is what everybody's been
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getting from uh the crypto report for the last two or three weeks i guess it was no show um and i'll
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try to make up for that in the next few days i'll i'll see if i can't uh maybe do another solo show
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uh maybe get another guest or so maybe maybe put out two or three shows in the next week or so
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but um i guess the biggest news going on right now is the whole budget thing well i mean there's the
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gun control thing too uh the march they had we've only got so much time to talk i think even a bigger
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uh thing going on right now is this budget that trump just signed and the implications that it has
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both for all of his campaign promises and this stuff that he's talking about about how he's got the wall
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funded despite uh the budget and i have uh one of the best websites on the internet i've got a couple
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articles uh pulled up here from infostormer.com um the first one is titled trump signs awful 1.3
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trillion dollar omnibus spending bill um and uh you wrote the president decided to sign this awful 1.3
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trillion dollar omnibus spending bill he should have trusted his gut and vetoed it this is one this is
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one of the most ridiculous piece of shit bills ever passed by congress earlier in the day he said he
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was thinking of vetoing it and here's his tweet which the tweet itself says a lot about you know
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what's wrong with the way he's looking at this stuff he says uh this is a tweet from uh the 23rd
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uh 7 55 a.m i'm considering a veto of the omnibus spending bill based on the fact that the 800 000 plus
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daca recipients have been totally abandoned by the democrats not even mentioned in the bill
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and the border wall which is desperately needed for national defense is not fully funded well i mean
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look at the priorities right there right off the bat he he's considering vetoing it because it doesn't
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mention the daca recipients so as far as i can tell that's the only good thing about the bill
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most definitely yeah i mean uh you know this whole idea that he's been putting out there that he can
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champion this daca thing to try to get independence or maybe some democrats to support him is ridiculous
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because all of his political enemies hate him as a person like they just hate everything about him
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so it doesn't matter what he does with daca or any of this other stuff it's not going to bring him
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any more supporters really this whole bill this 1.3 trillion dollar monstrosity which is like
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i don't know it's like something like over 2 000 pages that he even admitted that nobody read
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so why would you sign a bill into law that you yourself know nobody read it's just completely ridiculous
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but yeah the whole daca thing is just a stupid situation and it didn't include any real solid
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funding for the border wall i guess it included like it was like 1.6 billion for some maintenance or
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something as far as the uh fencing goes or the existing structures that they have in place but it didn't
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include the wall so really this whole thing it just alienates his base that's all it does by
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yeah him signing this it just made no sense for him to do it he should have vetoed it he should
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trust his gut because it did seem like he was conflicted with some of the things that he was
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saying even during the press conference when he announced that he signed well it also put limits
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on his uh constitutional authority to enforce immigration in the border it it actually placed
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a strict number limit on how many illegal aliens can be detained at any one time and uh uh like you
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said yeah 1.6 billion i was going to say 1.3 but you probably are accurate it's probably 1.6 billion
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and i believe they were saying that if that went 100 to building the wall it would build like 30 miles
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of it or something which is absolutely nothing i mean isn't it something like a 1700 mile border
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and uh i think it's like over 2 000 miles or something it's a lot more that's for sure i mean the the part
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of it that that is that really needs walls i mean nobody ever was talking about building a full 700
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mile wall i'm not saying that but i mean i think we should i think we should have a giant wall across
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the entire southern border i personally think we should just take about 10 miles of mexico and make
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that into a uh a no man's zone and build the wall there see what they do about it but uh that's one
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option i wouldn't be opposed to that especially all the drug traffickers and all the insanity you have
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going on the border yeah build it about 10 miles inside mexico with another 10 miles on the other
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side of it that nobody's allowed to enter they get shot uh you know by some type of a drone or
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something but um but yeah i mean that and and so there are so many bad things in this bill it's just
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unbelievable you know you've got people like chuck schumer uh tweeting hashtag winning over and over
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and all that because they got this passed uh it it's the most uh bloated with pork bill that
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anybody's ever seen uh tucker carlson made the comment uh the night it was signed he said i'm sure
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the range roller rover dealerships in washington dc are just overflowing with customers right now
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lobbyists and contractors who are congratulating themselves you know over this bill and i mean it
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includes things like why are we sending millions of dollars for uh scholarships for lebanon and and why
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are we sending millions of dollars um to china for uh i can't remember some kind of development they
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called it i mean like something like 15 million dollars going for uh yak herders in tibet and things
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like that i mean china is overtaking us as the world's premier economic power and we're sending
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them money uh not to mention that this is money that we borrow from them so we're borrowing money
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from them to give them money it's insane yeah i mean well it's 2 000 pages of shit and yeah knows what
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else is in there well i mean there's there's uh there's something like 13 million dollars
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to promote uh female law enforcement officers and i can't remember i think it's afghanistan it's you know
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it's one of the either middle eastern or one of the stands yeah uh i mean just all this crap yeah just
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all this unbelievable crap and uh and and like you say every single uh campaign promise that he makes
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is broken in this and and this he's considering a veto because of the daca kids not one person voted
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for him because they were worried about the daca recipients and as a matter of fact uh to sum up his
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uh policy on the daca recipients before he took the oath that he repeated over and over not in these
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two words but you know that he repeated over and over and over during the campaign to sum it up in
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two words was fuck them that was exactly he was like no we're not going to do this daca this daca is
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unconstitutional these people are going to have to go to the back of the line remember and uh suddenly he
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suddenly he takes the oath of office and it's a matter of the heart and he has allowed this daca
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business to drag on and on and on because he's trying to pull this boomer uh dr3 thing democrats
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are the real racists and nobody gives a shit about that the democrats certainly don't care about it
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because the only people who are going to believe that are people who vote straight conservative anyway
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and and those people are rapidly losing all influence over this country and if this bill
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uh makes it so i mean a lot of people like ann coulter and tucker carlson they're really black
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pilled over this they're saying like this bill is the end of america and what they mean by that is
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it's the end of white america now i'm not that black pilled on it but i'm sure don't believe it's
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gonna help i'm not i don't think i'm that depressed over it but i mean it's not a good thing that's for
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sure um i don't think it really helps him politically in any respect it certainly hurts him because this
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is not what anybody voted for to say the least um but yeah i mean uh 1.3 trillion dollars and
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he's talking about how he signed it because of the military that gives him 700 billion dollars for
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the military well i mean we don't need any more jewish wars we don't need any more of this nonsense
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where we're the world's policemen i mean haven't we been doing that for long enough already so i mean
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i don't think we need that much money for the military a lot of stuff could have been spent here
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in the states like for the border wall and all sorts of other things um but yeah i mean uh this is a
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this is not a good thing for us moving forward to say the least and i'm not sure what's going to
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happen in the next several months but i guess congress is and this is like pretty much the last
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major legislation they were going to push this year so i mean if i have to look to the future it's
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not looking good for the republicans as far as maintaining the house they might be able to
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maintain the senate still but um it's not looking good for them and this was just a terrible thing
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yeah absolutely it's really bad and one of the reasons that everybody was uh so hot to vote for
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trump was because of the idea you know of the people who did vote for him was because of the
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idea that this was the last chance you know that that's why we got republicans in charge of every
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aspect of the federal government they're in control of the house they're in control of the senate they're
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in control of the executive branch the presidency and now they're even in control of the supreme court
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and this is what we get we get everything that the democrats want we get everything that the hated
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uh mainstream uh northeastern establishment conservative republicans want we get nothing
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that the the um middle america trump voters wanted and trump signs it into law with no negotiation and i
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mean that was the other thing he's going to negotiate he's going to negotiate with putin he's
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going to negotiate with china he's going to negotiate with the house and senate we're going to get great
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deals and all this and we get nothing and the only counterpoints that he's had to this is like he signed
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it and before anybody even knew that he had the thing signed he tweeted out okay i'm signing this crappy
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thing uh but never again we can never do this again and so i demand that congress give me a line item
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veto yeah well good luck yeah why was he demanding these things before
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that's my question why is he at this press conference and then he says well i'm signing this bill but
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i want all these things and the whole process was just rotten from the very start and it really just
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came out of nowhere this is something that you know we knew it was happening but it wasn't one of those
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things where it's like okay he's just going to go ahead and sign this like there should have been
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some negotiation like you said and uh he should have been able to get a lot more than he got in
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this bill besides just military spending because i mean okay if he said that he was going to veto it
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and actually went through the veto he could just say that yeah the democrats weren't giving me anything
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this is a rotten bill it's 2 000 pages worth of shit i mean there are so many things that he could
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say that would justify the veto and people would fully understood why he vetoed it so this whole thing
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has been a huge disappointment and uh i don't know i mean there are some good things that i think have
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happened like with the tariffs and things like that that he's been doing on trade but i mean this
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whole past week was just really negative between this omnibus spending bill the appointment of john
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bolton as national security advisor and then him talking about he put a tweet about how he was
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gonna get the just department to ban bump stocks like i mean none of these things are gonna do anything
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for his base it's just gonna alienate his base further it's just uh insane what he's been doing over the
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past several days yeah absolutely and and not not to mention uh a couple of points i'd like to make
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uh you know he said that he's gonna come up with some reason to veto this thing well to my knowledge
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and of course i'm i'm not like a a constitutional scholar teaching at a university or anything but
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i've read the thing and i don't remember reading in there anywhere where there's like this rule that
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when um the congress submits a bill to him to be signed that he has to either sign it or veto it
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within 12 hours i mean sure the congress and the senate they pushed it through and this is a tactic
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they do you know they they want to do it this way they push these giant bills through claiming well
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nobody has time to read them so that when all the stuff starts coming out they all get to say i had no
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idea i had no idea i just had to vote on it or you know the military would have gone broke the next
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day and uh the russians and chinese would have invaded you know that's the kind of shit they want to
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pull and um but but you know he could have said okay well um my staff and i are going to go through
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this thing for about a week and have a look at it and see what all's in it before i sign this
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and he could have started saying hey what's this in here for you know having press conferences have
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uh you know give sarah huckabee sanders something better to do than to go out there and argue about
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whether he bangs stormy daniels or not you know get her out there saying oh get her out there saying
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look can you believe this is in this bill most definitely you know every day and and and it could
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lead up to you know you could have about a week of that and then say okay i'm going to veto this bill
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after you have shamed the living shit out of everybody in the senate over that bill
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but instead i mean and nobody in the mainstream media even points these things out well okay maybe
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the have you ever heard them say this anytime one of these bills passes and nobody had any time to
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read it have you ever heard the the mainstream media point out well you know the president has time
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to read it if he wants to before he decides to whether to veto it or to uh sign it yeah well
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i mean during that congress yeah well it was just funny when trump did the press conference he
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admitted fully that nobody had a chance to read it so i mean again why would you sign something that
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you know nobody has read it's just the whole process has been completely insane and i mean i don't know
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it's really it's just business as usual at this point and i mean i don't know it's the swamp yeah it's
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like trump has gotten consumed by the swamp and i but i would just say that this past week i think
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has been probably his worst week as president maybe well you also had the situation in syria a year ago
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but i i'd probably say that this has been the the worst week of his presidency based upon everything
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that's happened and uh i don't know it's not looking good yeah and we've got john bolton now
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as the uh oh i can't what is the national security advisor uh yes so so we've got somebody right in
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trump's ear now who is going who you know with every word that comes out of his uh mustachioed
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mouth is going to be advocating for some war for israel yeah he was a huge supporter of the iraq war
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back in the 2000s that guy was all over the place promoting how great the war was and yeah well i mean
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and to the end to the end and he still is he still is he he was on tucker carlson last week
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and he was saying the only bad thing that happened with the iraq afghanistan war was the fact that we
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ended it well it's still we should have never ended well technically both these wars are still going
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on well yeah but i mean yeah but i mean we don't have like full occupation you know we had the whole
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place we had our entire military over there doing just a full-on occupation for what eight years six
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eight years something like that and you know they drew it down they called it ending it when they
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drew it down to i don't know whatever the number was below a million troops or whatever but i mean
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he's saying that you know oh well the the mccain surge was the awesome thing and we should have just
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kept doing these surges and sending more people and doubling down you know the guy is a mouthpiece
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for two interests the one and a lot of people will say they're the same interests and i'm not going to
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argue that but you know that's it's more complicated than that but one of them the first and foremost is
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is israel and almost equal is the military industrial complex and those are the two uh the and the only
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two really uh beneficiaries of this policy of belligerent warfare in the middle east constantly i mean
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the military industrial complex just cleans up on that and uh of course israel uh uh profits from it
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in every possible way it's good propaganda for them here uh you know because it's only only democracy
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our greatest ally and all that but also we're over there uh dying you know killing our own boys
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to destroy their enemies for them and they don't have to raise a finger to do anything that's that's really the
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main problem i mean uh all this money that has been spent trillions upon trillions of dollars for
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these stupid wars over in the middle east that have not been to benefit america it's benefit israel and
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i don't think there's anybody at this point can who can actually deny that i mean that's just a 100
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verifiable fact and it's something that really has to end and this omnibus bill that trump just signed
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okay 700 billion dollars for the military and then then he read off all these things that we were
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buying okay great but as you mentioned who does that benefit it benefits all these military contractors
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that get all this money to build those things so it's like a it's like a circular thing that just
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feeds on itself and we have to find some way to break this cycle because i mean you know i saw this
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stuff about russia they talk about how russia is like our greatest enemy now and how russia is doing all
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these bad things but really when you look at what they're accusing russia of it's really the stuff
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they're accusing them of doing is really the stuff that israel and all these jews are doing
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and that's something i think really needs to be highlighted yeah well you know i i don't care what
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the keynesians say and boy is that a thing you don't hear anybody say anymore ever since the you know
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the ron paul's and so forth aren't around but it's an accurate descriptor of this theory i don't care
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what the keynesians say you cannot prop up an economy forever by breaking windows and replacing
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them and that that's what this is this military industrial complex thing of where okay we have
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a war over in the shithole of the world constantly because you know that uh wears out our tanks and our
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planes and we use up all these munitions and on on on on on and so we have to build new ones and that
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provides profit and that gets workers paid and all it's it's uh it doesn't work forever it crashes in
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the end because if you really think about it it's a very circular thing uh it's basically like trying
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to come up with a perpetual motion machine you know you can look look at all these old uh
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uh schematics of things people used to try to come up with to be perpetual motion machines and sure
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they'd turn for a long time but they stop in the end when they stop they fully stop and this stuff
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is running on debt and it just can't go on forever and people get to thinking that it can
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because it's gone on for so long but at some point you've got to pay the piper and uh you know it would
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it would be way better if instead of just carrying this on until we're past the point of even calling
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ourselves bankrupt and and everybody's coming to call saying pay up pay up pay up uh is that you
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you know you cut expenses and you start having rational policies and bring some of this military
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home and and you know yeah i'm sure the military does need money that i would be willing to give them
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as far as like you know we've just broken our military against the middle east for 15 years now and
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uh i would like to bring all the guys home bring all the equipment home repair it all upgrade update
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uh have as much as we need for defense of you know our country and maybe take these guys in the military
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and start deporting these illegals with them i mean we have anywhere between 10 and 40 million of them
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depending on who you ask and that seems like way more of a clear and present danger to me than
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anything that's going on over in afghanistan most definitely well of course you got all the stuff
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going on the border and yeah it's pretty interesting they want to spend 700 billion dollars in the
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military and almost nothing on securing the borders of the country that the military is supposed to be
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defending i mean this has been going on for so long it's just it's such an insane thing and i hope at
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some point that i will see the day when this cycle is finally broken and i was hoping that trump may
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have been the person to potentially do it but and with this whole thing i i have very little confidence
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that that's going to happen it seems like a lot of the foreign policy moves that he's made not
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maybe not all of them but the vast majority of them have just been business usual and i think this
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700 billion dollar spending bill and all sort of stuff just more proof that yeah it's just business
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as usual for now well um we're we're coming to a close here you you have uh graciously gone over
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the time that we agreed to um so i would like to get um your opinion on this because you know it's uh
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every time trump does bad things you know people start screaming it's over i hate trump now i never
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want to have anything to do with him again blah blah blah do you think that he has any
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realistic opportunity to to redeem himself after this what do you think uh that uh american nationalists
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members of the alt-right and so forth uh what do you think is a reasonable reaction to this and should
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we write off our support of trump completely yeah that's a tough question um i don't think that his
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presidency is irredeemable um i think there have been some things that he's done that have been positive
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of course there's also been a lot of stuff that's been negative but um he's just he's really he's
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just one man i mean that's part of the issue that we have here there's a lot of forces that are against
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him there's a lot of forces that did not want to see him become president and i think a lot of things
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that he's done that have been most positive for us has been on the cultural front like uh for example
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the exposing of the fake news media which is really just the jewish media he's completely discredited
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those people um the stuff with the nfl as far as uh the national anthem stuff went and all that i
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think that was a very positive cultural win for us and also just getting rid of this whole concept
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of political correctness i think his campaign his presidency i think all that's on a a good number
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on that narrative that they've crammed down our throats for years so i think those things have been
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valuable but um but yeah i don't think his presidency is irredeemable i think there's a chance that he's
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still going to do some positive things but i think it's going to be a mixed bag moving forward i don't
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think we should expect to all these tremendous things to happen like i mean there's some people
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out there that think that okay well trump was going to be like the next adolf hitler or something and
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i think most of us knew that that wasn't what we're going to get trump is basically giving us time
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to hopefully be able to get our act together and i'm hoping over the next eight years to get a real
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solid pro-white base in place that can actually achieve some real long-lasting political change
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so again i don't think his presidency is irredeemable but um obviously i've been very
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disappointed with some of the things that have happened over the past well i don't think it's
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irredeemable either i am ever more pessimistic and and like you i never was a person who thought
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that trump was going to be hitler now we did meme that kind of stuff a lot uh and there were a lot of
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reasons for that mostly it was you know harassing the cuck servatives and throwing the anti-immigration
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stuff in the face of the left uh and also trying to energize our people in the alt-right to vote for
01:28:26.580
trump uh which i believe was you know the deciding factor we definitely weren't the biggest group of
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people that voted for him but if you look at the numbers uh had the alt-right not turned out and
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and voted in huge numbers for trump he wouldn't have been president you have to remember
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one very important thing no matter what's going on uh until it gets to the point that it would have
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been if hillary was elected it's still better that we elected trump and you must remember and this is
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not an exaggeration had hillary clinton been elected by now we would already have every illegal alien in
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the united states made a full voting citizen we would have anti-white programs like affirmative action
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uh you know just ramped up by a factor of 10 we would have hate speech laws we would have an end
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to borders as we even the time you know as as porous as our border is we would have a complete end to the
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border we would have an open invitation to the third world for all of them to come here and live
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on our uh social welfare systems um you know basically we would be like the entire united states
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would be london but with mexicans and so that wouldn't be good so i think what we have to do i'm not
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saying we have to be behind trump and everything he does obviously i am very upset with him with what
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he's done uh i don't know i do believe he can redeem himself i don't know that he will i believe that we
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need to put pressure on him i think that for every uh let's just uh just throw a random number out there
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for every five minutes that we spend online uh complaining righteously i may add i'm not saying
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you're complaining for no reason i and i like that you're complaining online about this stuff
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but for every five minutes that you're online complaining about this stuff you should spend
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one minute sending him an email or calling the white house switchboard you know and not calling
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him up and saying we're going to throw you in a gas chamber and turn america into the third
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reich and all that or cursing him or threatening everything to tell you i will not vote for you
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i will not vote for any republican if if x happens you got it you've got to be an engaged citizen we live
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well technically in a republic but literally we live in a representative democracy you know that's
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what they want to call it it's a democracy and so we have to be engaged citizens just getting somebody
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elected is not good enough because we have the media we have the gop and the democratic party
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all the lobbyists all the corporatists we have all those vying for influence the only thing that we've
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got is our vote and we need to make sure that trump and his people and all our local representatives
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all our congressional representatives all our state level representatives we have to make sure
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that they know that we're paying attention we're engaged we vote and we don't feel they're entitled
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to our votes that they have to earn them and if we can be if if the alt-right can be the loudest voices
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in these emails and faxes and calls to the white house switchboard the congressional switchboard the
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congressional offices and all that then we can have a really really huge influence completely
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out of step with our actual numbers yeah i mean uh i think putting pressure on him is the right
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strategy and i i think uh when you look at just his response to how this whole thing has played out
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i think he gets the sense that the base is not happy with some of these recent moves and we'll see what
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happens i'm not sure before but we should absolutely do our best to try to sway him in the direction
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that we want him to go and ensure that he fulfills what he promised which i mean i think most of the
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stuff that he promised were good policies that is going to at least help push the country in a proper
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direction and clearly over the past few weeks or so we've seen him veer away from that and uh
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it's obviously unfortunate so yeah we just have to keep at it and uh one thing i think uh that is
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worth mentioning is that we can't give up we have to keep pushing our agenda as forcefully as we can
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until we get to the point we can enact some real positive political change and i think there's a
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chance that we'll be seeing at some point in the future but we just have to work at it yeah and
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that's a good place to end this and to finish up the show i'd like to do a little uh shilling for
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you and it's not shilling because i actually mean it um infostormer.com is a great website
01:33:28.960
it's uh owned and runned runned i just turned black for a second it's owned and run by my guest
01:33:38.300
and friend lee rogers uh go check it out every day it's a it's a really hard news website and he has
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some really acidic opinionizing on there that i really enjoy and you really need to consider um
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well don't consider it just do it get on the infostormer forum registration is open isn't it
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lee it is it's a smaller community but i i think uh that's why it's appealing um so yeah the
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registration is open you can sign up for an account and uh there's people that comment on there yeah
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fairly regularly so it's a it's a pretty good if you're on this if you're uh on the daily stormer
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vbs you'll know most of them and because it is smaller uh you know we can uh kind of it's easier
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for us to keep it a friendly community and a positive community so you know come on over there
01:34:27.560
i'm there all the time uh you may not see me commenting a lot but if you come on there and
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you tag me and want to talk about something i will certainly talk with you um the the registration is
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not open on the daily stormer bbs right now i don't believe but if you are a member uh and you
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haven't uh posted on there for a while uh consider logging on and checking it out i think you'll find
01:34:51.760
what you see there right now refreshing compared to what you've seen for a while um make sure and log
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on to the daily stormer several times every day if you miss something that gets posted there you're
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just going to be uninformed because really i mean daily stormer and info stormer are the only places
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you're going to go and find real news all the time so lee i want to thank you for coming on here
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you've been a as always been a great guest i know the listeners are going to really enjoy this
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uh hopefully we can do this more often than we've been doing it and i'll be doing another show in a
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day or so i'll be talking about some other things i'm going to do i'm going to be talking about how
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britain has become a complete thought crime enforcing police state i'm going to be talking about the
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march against the guns and several other things so keep watching that radio section over the next
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few days because i'll i'll be trying to make up for lost time in it until then for lee i am as the door
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this has been the crypto report and we'll see you later