It's now our time for our M.I. the A-hole moral quandaries, which are always interesting. This week, we have a couple of listener submitted stories about family drama involving a dog and a family party.
00:01:03.760It says, I have two kids, ages three and one.
00:01:05.880From the moment we walked in the door, the dogs were all over my small children.
00:01:09.220They were in their faces, sniffing them, licking them, bothering them.
00:01:12.720In response, my kids just wanted to be held by my wife and I away from the dogs.
00:01:17.080After some time, we finally asked the stepsister to please put the dogs in the basement until we left.
00:01:20.820She refused, saying that they were her kids and that we should let her dog sniff and lick our toddler children until they lose interest.
00:01:28.180My wife's stepmother agreed, adding that it's not that big of a deal and scolding me for being in a bad mood.
00:01:33.080I said to the stepsister that her dogs are animals, not her children, and do not hold a superior position to my actual real-life human children.
00:01:39.140My wife burst into tears as everyone started yelling.
00:01:41.820It got so bad that we just decided to leave.
00:01:44.300I've had family drama before, but never over something so remarkably stupid.
00:01:47.620Now we're trying to figure out what to do.
00:01:48.920I'm considering telling the stepmom, who we see frequently and took the side of the stepsister, who we rarely see,
00:01:53.760that she can't see our kids until she apologizes to us and our children for prioritizing the dogs over our own children.
00:02:00.160The stepmom has a history of trash-talking, making comments, being judgmental towards my wife and I.
00:02:04.580So the situation is more along the lines of straw breaking the camel's back rather than a first offense.
00:03:54.100But this one is, like, a little bit too friendly.
00:03:56.460And so maybe we'll have someone in the house, and they're sitting down, and the cat will just, like, jump up on their lap without even asking, invading their personal space.
00:04:04.360And when I see that, I'm, you know, we take the cat.
00:04:07.060We say, look, if you don't want the cat there, you can kick her off.
00:08:14.040But that doesn't mean the guilt goes back to you.
00:08:16.840Usually, if a child grows older, moves out of the house, doesn't really have a bond with the parent and loses touch with the parent, usually I put the blame on the parent because it was up to you to form that bond.
00:08:28.580You can't put that responsibility on your child.
00:08:30.540And if you don't do that when your child is a child, there's a very good chance when they become adults that they're not going to be interested in being around you.
00:08:38.060You had your chance to form that bond, and you didn't do it.
00:09:52.820I tend to look at it a little bit differently.
00:09:54.980You know, I tend to look at it as like not everyone has the right to a certain truth.
00:09:59.440There are truths about you that not everyone has a right to.
00:10:01.580And if they're demanding a truth that they simply don't have the right to, then I think at the very least, your moral guilt in deceiving them is severely mitigated.
00:10:28.400My wife's 40-year-old brother has never grown up.
00:10:30.940And after years of living on the street and only contacting the family for money, he decided to move back in with his mom because he didn't want to live on the street during the winter.
00:10:38.840After moving in with his mom, he finally got a job.
00:10:40.800My wife and I had to take him to and from work for about eight days until he got fired for cursing out another employee.
00:10:51.100The money he earned was spent on booze and his mom told him he wasn't allowed to drink at her house.
00:10:55.600She asked me to come over to his sister because he wouldn't listen, so he cussed me out also.
00:10:59.760He just got another job and asked my wife to take him to work, which I told her to tell him no because we are not going out of our way to help him after he cussed me out.
00:11:21.640When it comes to family, you should be there to help family.
00:11:24.880You should be willing to go the extra mile for family because they are family.
00:11:29.280But at a certain point, you're not helping them by helping them.
00:11:32.920You know, sometimes the best help for them is to not help them.
00:11:36.140And this sounds like a guy that, as you said, has never grown up.
00:11:39.600He's this infantilized, perpetually adolescent 40-year-old.
00:11:43.520And if he has any hope at the age of 40 of having any kind of, like, awakening moment and actually growing up, having a very delayed coming-of-age moment where he has some hope of living a functional, productive life, if there's any hope of that.
00:11:59.440And there is hope because 40 is like you're getting old, but it's not—you can change even at the age of 40.
00:12:04.760But that hope, I think, hinges at this point on tough love.
00:12:08.920And he's going to have to confront the consequences of his own decisions and his own actions.
00:12:12.680Like, people that are perpetually adolescent that never grow up, one of the reasons, one of the things that puts them in that state is that they were never forced to deal with the consequences of their actions.
00:12:23.840They live in this fantasy world where consequence is divorced from action.
00:12:29.240And the very definition of tough love oftentimes is to not be that barrier between the consequences of their actions and the actions.
00:12:36.480To step out of the way and say, no, you're going to have to—I don't like to see this.
00:12:40.240I wish it didn't have to be this way, but you are going to have to deal with the consequences of your actions, even if those consequences are quite dire.
00:12:46.960And that means that, like, you end up on the street because you can't even be functional in a job for, like, a week.
00:12:55.100You're going to have to deal with that.
00:12:56.600In this case, you got another job, and now you want a ride to work again, but you're relying on the person that you just disrespected in this way.
00:13:04.600Like, no, it's a consequence, but you're not going to go help this guy out.
00:13:08.360Your wife's not going to go help him after he disrespected her husband.