The Matt Walsh Show - Candace Owens on Meghan Markle, The Transgender Agenda, & Her New Show.

00:00:00.000 Joined by Candace Owens. Candace, you're our newest colleague here at The Daily Wire.

00:00:05.180 We're excited to have you. My first question is, I know you've only been here for a few days,

00:00:11.600 but who's your favorite co-worker here at The Daily Wire?

00:00:14.840 That is a really good question. I'm going to have to go ahead and say the makeup artists.

00:00:21.320 As long as you didn't say Michael Knowles or one of the other hosts, I find it. That's what I was

00:00:24.140 worried about. So you got to Tennessee. I talked to you off air last week, and you were talking

00:00:29.040 about your experience driving here with a baby. I did that with four kids, so I know a little bit

00:00:34.620 about that. You've been to Tennessee. Have you assimilated into the culture yet? I mean, the

00:00:37.940 pickup truck, the cowboy boots and all that, have you done that?

00:00:42.000 Yeah, absolutely. So that was actually the first day, second day at Tennessee. My husband was like,

00:00:46.660 we're doing two things. We're going to the gun shop, and we're going to go buy a pair of cowboy

00:00:50.400 boots. Gun shop didn't go well because we still have our DC driver's license, so you have to have

00:00:56.340 a Tennessee license to buy a gun, so we still have to wait for that. But it wasn't difficult

00:01:00.300 to assimilate into the culture because I think actually that was my culture. I'm conservative,

00:01:05.120 right? So I was actually a fish out of water living in DC. Here, I'm like, this is great.

00:01:09.560 Everybody thinks like me. So it's been awesome. I'm just happy to be in the South. It feels like

00:01:15.060 this is where people are sane. And I mean, I guess you can't relate because you weren't in LA,

00:01:20.240 but Daily Wire was in Los Angeles, and it really is the land of a living dead. We're doing LA,

00:01:26.220 New York, and DC. Yeah. I was living in Pennsylvania. You had accused me of living

00:01:30.660 in Canada, so you'd spread a rumor online that I lived in Canada. The internet spread that rumor,

00:01:35.420 and I believed it. The internet spread it because you said it. No, no. It was QAnon stuff. It was like,

00:01:40.560 Matt Walsh lives in Canada, and I fell for it. I don't know. The internet's a dangerous place.

00:01:46.340 To this day, the worst insult anyone has ever leveled at me as being a Canadian.

00:01:50.420 So I want to talk about your show. We'll talk about your show in a minute, but first, just

00:01:53.060 to go over some of the stuff happening in the news, I want to get your thoughts on a few of it.

00:01:58.420 I guess we have to begin with the royal family because that's what everyone's talking about.

00:02:01.640 I know you've been on top of it. So I have two questions, and the first one is a serious question

00:02:09.360 because I really am hoping you can shed some light on this. Why does anyone care about these

00:02:13.960 god-awful people? So we'll start with that. Why do you think people care that much? 0.96

00:02:18.740 So I have to say, I never had an appreciation for the royals, right? It's just, it's something

00:02:22.980 that Americans don't really jive with. It never made sense to me, but I fell in love and married

00:02:27.600 an Englishman, right? And so I kind of learned to appreciate the significance of the queen

00:02:33.280 and really understanding that there's been something in their country that has remained solid

00:02:39.100 and has not changed over time. Difficult for Americans to comprehend because we don't really

00:02:44.280 do tradition. We're kind of like, tear it down, old building, tear it down, build something new.

00:02:48.980 Tear it down, build something new. So that's the reason I think that people follow the royals. Now,

00:02:53.820 I don't care at all for the Harry and Meghan thing, except for the political undertones of somebody

00:02:59.000 saying, I'm not liked, therefore it's because I'm 25% black. That stuff bothers me, whether it's,

00:03:05.740 or, you know, we're talking about Democrats saying it, we see that pollution all throughout

00:03:10.120 Hollywood. So this Hollywood star going into a country that really sort of loves its traditions

00:03:15.520 and then accusing them of being fundamentally racist. It's just like, let's keep the American

00:03:20.760 BS race narrative, at least within the bounds of America. Let's not extend it overseas to Europe 0.61

00:03:25.740 because they have a different culture there. They've been around much longer. You know, England never

00:03:29.700 had slaves in its country. And by the way, in terms of worldwide slavery, the Englishmen were the

00:03:35.140 first to abolish it. So she, she's sort of relying on American ignorance and the race obsession in 1.00

00:03:39.540 America and extending it overseas. It's just, it's really bothersome. So do you think the American

00:03:46.840 media running to Meghan Markle's defense, do you think part of that is their, how they detest tradition

00:03:52.480 in general? And so they don't like the royal family for that reason? Yeah. I mean, think about

00:03:55.840 where we are right now in America, like, right, but that is sort of this like cultural Marxist,

00:03:59.260 everything that is from yesterday is wrong and needs to be tore down. Everything about America is wrong.

00:04:04.360 We got to get rid of Christopher Columbus. Dr. Seuss is racist. Uh, you know, so we are just 0.98

00:04:08.800 obsessed with thinking that everything from the past is wrong. And sure, there were elements in

00:04:13.000 the past that were definitely wrong, but in many ways we've thrown out the baby with the, with the

00:04:17.180 bathwater and, um, England is just a different place, right? I mean, their population, it's, there's 0.73

00:04:22.940 only 3% black people in England. It's a remarkably, you know, compared to America, a very small

00:04:28.200 country. Um, and so it just sends, it's, it's just, it's so ignorant. It's, it's just the height of 1.00

00:04:34.180 ignorance to me, uh, to have this D-list actress that nobody knew go over there. Not her race is not 1.00

00:04:40.840 discernible by the eye. You, if she walked in, you would never say Meghan Markle is a black woman, 0.61

00:04:45.060 right? And then she says her son, who, if you've seen a picture of, and you think that he has faced,

00:04:51.000 um, anti-black racism in his life, then I'm a Nigerian prince and I have, you know, an account

00:04:57.500 that you can give, you can send some money into. Um, and it's just, it's just, it's, it's frustrating.

00:05:02.420 I think we're just tired of the race narrative here in America. And it's just obnoxious that we

00:05:06.440 sent this girl over here to start, to start the same thing overseas. Yeah. I, I'm glad you mentioned

00:05:11.860 that the, you said 25% black, right? Is that, is that the actual, uh, Meghan is less, Meghan is less

00:05:17.820 than 50% black. Her mother is half black. Yes. She's 25, less than 25% black. Yeah. Yeah. Because 0.95

00:05:22.420 I had the same experience when I, when we first started hearing about her and we heard that this

00:05:26.220 racism against a black woman, my first experience was what she's, is she a black woman? Exactly. So 0.99

00:05:32.300 it does make it a little bit hard to believe, but it does, it, I think, doesn't it tell you something

00:05:35.840 about the way the victimhood hierarchy works on the left? And it's a really confusing intersectionality.

00:05:42.120 As you know, it's very confusing, but the reason why this woman is able to make a victim of herself, 1.00

00:05:49.020 even though she's fabulously wealthy and she's in her 18,000 square foot mansion, you know, and she's 1.00

00:05:56.640 got her Netflix deals and everything. And she's sitting on a patio more expensive than my house 0.56

00:06:00.980 and talking to Oprah and all that. She's still the victim, um, because she's less white than the 1.00

00:06:07.120 other ones. And so that it's all about the intersectionality. Yeah. It's ridiculous. And it's

00:06:10.920 the same thing I say to my husband. So I now have a half black, half white son. And I always say to

00:06:15.700 my husband, is he half privileged or half oppressed? Like what is he oppressed or privileged? You know,

00:06:19.200 this is sort of the weird thing. And it, she never throughout her life, she never presented as black.

00:06:24.320 It wasn't like she was playing black characters or want people to identify her as black, but it became 0.75

00:06:28.560 convenient for her when she realized, okay, the entire United Kingdom hates me. I'm not a very likable

00:06:33.240 person. And the elements that they hated about her are the elements that I think conservatives hate

00:06:37.060 about Hollywood, right? Where she just wanted to be the center of attention at all times.

00:06:41.180 And she couldn't respect tradition. And then she goes around and says, okay, well,

00:06:45.280 how can I make the American press love me since I've been sort of chased out of the country because

00:06:48.840 no one likes me there. And the obvious thing for her was I'm in Hollywood. So I'm going to take,

00:06:53.260 you know, the race narrative. And it's just pathetic. You know, you're wealthy, by the way, 0.99

00:06:56.560 even if you weren't sometimes in life, people don't like you. I know Google my name. You know what

00:07:01.740 I'm saying? I've got tons of hit pieces against me. I've never once read those hit pieces and said,

00:07:05.880 well, it's clear they don't like me because I'm black. You know, it's sometimes people don't like

00:07:09.680 you deal with it. How do you think with, with the victimhood hierarchy, because I'm always

00:07:12.860 fascinated by this. Uh, we know that she can put herself on it for the, for the racial issue,

00:07:17.160 but who are, I can never quite figure out on the left. Who are the Uber victims? Who's at the top

00:07:23.380 of the, of the hierarchy? I think it's probably LGBT trans. Is it, is it, is that what it is?

00:07:30.000 But it seems to change depending on who, who the person is.

00:07:32.640 Yeah, it's weird. So the trans stuff, what I've noticed is it does seem like, okay, 1.00

00:07:37.860 they are the biggest victims, but that's actually not true because black Americans by and large do

00:07:43.760 not support the trans agenda. That's actually being pushed by wealthy white people. Um, so it's, 0.80

00:07:48.860 it's very interesting to try to discern even now when you see like a big race scandal and you'll be

00:07:53.080 like, Oh, this person was canceled because they were racist. Most of the time it's white people that

00:07:57.180 are canceling people. It's not black people that are up in arms. Like black people did not 1.00

00:08:01.120 go up in arms about Dr. Seuss. That was literally created by, by white people who are now wielding 0.89

00:08:06.980 the race sword and being like, ah, you must go Morgan Wallen scandal. Black people were like 1.00

00:08:11.260 completely out of the middle of Morgan Wallen is right. I mean, so they're like, so this is actually

00:08:15.360 white people being empowered and using race as a tool and white people establishing that the trans

00:08:20.180 agenda is now their new frontier of oppression. So, um, no, I don't think that I think black is peak, 0.99

00:08:26.760 peak victim. And if black Americans were like, cut this out with the trans stuff, 1.00

00:08:30.280 they would have to sort of cut it out. Um, uh, but yeah, it's, it's interesting because 0.91

00:08:34.440 the, really the question is, is who's deciding on these cancellations and these victim hoods?

00:08:39.640 It ends up being, if you follow it, wealthy white corporations. And of course you add in the political

00:08:45.140 ideology part of it because by that equation, you should be able to claim victimhood, but you can't

00:08:50.620 because you're actually at the bottom because even though you're a black woman, you're conservative. 0.97

00:08:54.640 So you're, you're like, you become the Uber villain. But also what's magical about it though,

00:08:59.160 is they don't know how to defeat me because in order to defeat me, they'd have to go against

00:09:03.580 their own rules. Right. So they've decided that being a black woman, like I'm at the top of the

00:09:07.580 progressive stack, right? Like black women need to find their voices. Like Megan, in her interview, 1.00

00:09:11.960 I guess said, um, something about like, I was felt like the little mermaid who fell in love with the 0.98

00:09:16.820 prince and lost her voice, which is just one of the most pathetic. She actually said that, 0.97

00:09:21.520 which you see what I mean? Like it just makes you cringe and it makes you angry. You're just like,

00:09:24.160 Hollywood, right? And it's like, no, like you found a wealthy guy that could help you climb

00:09:30.180 a ladder because you were a D list actress. The end you won. Great. Walk away into the, 0.97

00:09:34.280 into the sunset and be happy. Um, but yeah, it's, it's interesting. Don't you find that you don't

00:09:39.420 know how to attack me? Don't you find that you get even more hate than let's say I would as a

00:09:44.480 white man? Oh yeah. Because not only are you saying unpopular things, but also there's this element of 0.61

00:09:49.900 you're betraying the left things that they should, that you belong to them. Right. So they get very

00:09:55.040 frustrated because it's like, they, uh, they assumed all of this power by creating these sort

00:10:00.600 of victimhood channels. And one of those things was black women are always victims. So when a black 1.00

00:10:05.040 woman denies being a victim and says, you know, I, I don't want to take the victim card. I don't

00:10:09.800 believe in the black card. Um, I feel remarkably privileged in this country to be an American living

00:10:14.460 and breathing at this time. You are, you are privileged. They just go, Oh, because now they don't know

00:10:19.240 how to defeat me without being racist themselves. Right. Because attacking a black woman is 0.99

00:10:24.140 fundamentally racist. So they just want me to go away and they don't know how to make that happen. 0.97

00:10:28.780 We were talking about the trans thing a second ago, uh, gender. I've noticed it seems like,

00:10:33.040 correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems like you're in recent months, you've been focusing,

00:10:38.620 especially on, on gender issues. Yeah. Going back to the infamous Harry Styles,

00:10:43.120 your, your controversial opinion that you don't think men should wear dresses. I don't know how you

00:10:47.460 could possibly say such a thing. Uh, but so there, there's that. And then there's the,

00:10:51.160 you know, the women, the men in sports and all those sorts of things. I think that the gender 0.97

00:10:55.080 issues have been, I've, I've been saying for years that this is one of the central battlefields of the

00:11:00.060 culture war. It's time for conservatives to wake up to it and start engaging. This is not a sideshow.

00:11:05.280 Uh, it, it felt for, for so long that conservatives said, well, yeah, this is a fad. It'll go away.

00:11:11.500 But it's not. So what, am I correct that you've been focusing on this more? And if so, what, why,

00:11:17.260 why is this important? Do you think? So I actually haven't been focusing on it more. It's just that

00:11:21.200 it's kind of finally come to fruition, uh, which you, you know, you predicted it. I predicted it.

00:11:26.140 So three years ago when I was first speaking out, I was like, watch this because this is something

00:11:30.480 that you think, oh, oh, it's, it's less than 1% of the population. It's, you know, it's, it's not

00:11:34.860 going to ever be a thing. And I was like, I just kind of saw it kind of brewing. And I had done tons

00:11:40.000 of episodes on my show, my previous shows talking about it. When I was sitting in college campuses,

00:11:44.440 I was talking about it. And then it feels like sort of in the last six months, they sort of became

00:11:48.960 really obsessed with now even calling a woman a woman is wrong, right? Like even trying to say, 0.75

00:11:53.940 you know, all of these terms, woman X, how do you even say it? Wim X, women's, women X,

00:11:58.780 Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix, Wimix. Yes.

00:12:03.380 I also thought, I thought it was Latinx, but I'm told that it's a Latinx.

00:12:07.160 No, let's go with Latinx, right? And which is hilarious because if you ever use the word 0.87

00:12:11.440 Latinx, it's the easiest way to discern that someone is not actually Latino or Latina because

00:12:15.400 they'd have to do away with the entire language. Everything is a gender in Spanish. La mesa, 1.00

00:12:19.820 that's table. Like it's like boy or girl for everything. But yeah, so I just saw it coming

00:12:25.040 and I wanted to really assert myself on that issue because it is, I mean, it is just the greatest

00:12:30.240 undoing trying to, you get to A, destroy families, weaken society. I mean, you can do everything

00:12:36.000 through the transgender movement that the left is really after, which is just chaos. 1.00

00:12:40.500 So yeah, I just spoke out against it. And I will say this, like I said earlier,

00:12:44.680 it is the one issue that black Americans are the most uncomfortable with. And so I have not,

00:12:50.280 you know, I've seen black Americans across both sides of the political spectrum say, okay,

00:12:54.940 I'm this, she's 100% right, which makes sense because if you pull black America in terms of 1.00

00:12:59.600 their politics, they've never been big supporters of the LGBT Q, R, N, S, E, T, U, B.

00:13:09.480 You don't, yeah, whatever it is. I just say the whole alphabet, but you say that black Americans

00:13:14.720 don't support this. And I've, I've, I've heard that before, but you don't hear that, that voice,

00:13:19.940 the voice is heard through you, but it's not, they don't, they don't have very many outlets

00:13:24.720 to express that. I mean, BLM, for example, is at least before they scrubbed their, their page that,

00:13:31.140 you know, laid out their whole agenda, the stuff about tearing down the families, yeah, families,

00:13:35.980 they took a lot of that stuff off. But before they took that stuff off, you read it and you thought,

00:13:39.700 well, this is just a, this is an LGBT group. This is not, there's very little here even about race.

00:13:43.960 It's mostly about trans. And so is that, why don't we hear that expressed more? I mean, is it?

00:13:51.960 Yeah. You know, I think you do, it's just not given, it's not given air. So like, I definitely

00:13:56.860 have heard Charlamagne the God, right, on The Breakfast Club, talk about various political

00:14:01.740 issues and he will always give, they will always side on the, Candace is right on this one, you know,

00:14:07.760 and definitely throughout the Harry Styles thing, actually it was the first time black Twitter ever

00:14:13.100 came to my defense, by the way, as they call it, hashtag black Twitter, because, you know, Noah Cyrus,

00:14:18.440 Smiley Cyrus apparently has a little sister and she jumped in to defend Harry Styles and in the

00:14:23.380 process called me like a nappy headed hoe. And then it kind of went viral on Instagram and they

00:14:27.580 were all talking about the issue saying, this is, this is just not something we accept, but the media

00:14:31.460 won't cover it. So it sort of exists in this bubble on social media. Whereas I know you speak to black 1.00

00:14:37.300 Americans, they never, ever, ever have attacked me on my position on women are women and men are men.

00:14:42.560 And I think that they really see that as an attack on black men, you know, and it's, it's an attack

00:14:49.040 on all men, you know, what it means to be a man. And we already have so many issues when it comes to

00:14:53.660 father, fathers in the home and what it means to be a man in black America as is. So it's just not 0.80

00:14:59.020 something that they're going to get behind. So it's a losing issue for Democrats, which is why I'm okay

00:15:04.500 with them trying to force this down people's throats. Because in my opinion, you start calling a black

00:15:10.540 woman's child, you know, her son by a female name, and you're going to wake up, you know, 0.93

00:15:15.800 a sleeping, a sleeping giant. Yeah, I agree with you. It's a losing issue, I think, across

00:15:20.860 most demographics. Yeah. It's just that, again, there's this, it's hard to get that voice out

00:15:26.300 there. Right. Because the media doesn't want it doesn't want to air that. But one other thing I

00:15:30.280 want to ask before we talk about your show on this topic, there's this Gallup poll that came out.

00:15:34.560 I don't know if you saw it last week, I think it was, talking about the rise of LGBT identification

00:15:42.100 in the younger generation, Gen Z. And they're defining, I think they define that as 1990,

00:15:47.000 born between 1997 and 2002 or something. So this leaves out like our kids' generation and even

00:15:53.600 other kids. But they found in the Gallup poll that something like 12% of this generation identifies

00:16:01.520 as bisexual, like easily 10 times higher than other older generations. The number of transgender

00:16:08.180 identifications, 10 times higher. There are now more trans identifying people in Gen Z than there

00:16:15.260 are lesbians. Now, I got in some trouble on Twitter because I said that I think this is an active effort

00:16:20.920 by the LGBT left to essentially recruit kids, to indoctrinate kids into their way of thinking. 0.80

00:16:28.500 Yeah. What is your take on that?

00:16:31.520 My take on that is first and foremost, I have realized, as I said with the race issue,

00:16:34.840 that a lot of the times it's not black Americans behind it. It's not LGB behind this trans agenda.

00:16:39.720 You speak, I've spoken to tons of people that are on the left, lesbian, gays, and they are

00:16:43.580 uncomfortable with what they don't even understand why they're being forced to pretend to defend this.

00:16:48.660 I mean, LGB really has nothing to do with T. And they've been able to amass a lot of power,

00:16:53.580 push-through policies. California just proposed a bill that boys and girls sections, that would make

00:17:00.040 boys and girls sections in retail stores and online stores illegal, and that people that have signs

00:17:05.240 that say boys section, girls section will get fined $1,000, right? You can't tell me that gays and 1.00

00:17:10.020 lesbians got together and were like, this is just unbelievable. So there's something political

00:17:15.820 that's pushing this, and they're hiding behind the LGB people to try to push that through,

00:17:22.040 which is interesting and it's super alarming. But in regards to children identifying,

00:17:28.200 which is definitely happening, they're being encouraged in the school system. So again,

00:17:32.740 there's something coming down the political pipeline that's encouraging them to see.

00:17:36.600 And then you have these woke parents who are like, well, this is just who my child is.

00:17:39.740 And what I always say is that if you show me a trans child, it's like showing me a vegan dog, 1.00

00:17:46.180 you know who's making the decisions. It's just like, my dog's a vegan. No, your dog's not.

00:17:50.460 You know what I mean? My child's trans. No, your child's not. You are putting this lifestyle upon 1.00

00:17:56.060 the child because you just don't think... I grew up. I've been a kid. You don't think like that when

00:18:00.800 you're a kid. You don't think in terms of sexual identification, gender identification. You hardly

00:18:05.660 even know what this stuff even means. You just kind of want to run around on a playground and have

00:18:09.240 some fun. I was the ultimate tomboy when I was, I would probably say from six to 10. I was just

00:18:17.100 like, I just wanted to hang out with the boys. I just wanted to wear baggy clothes. And thank

00:18:21.160 goodness that I grew up in the 90s because my mother wasn't like, well, you're Michael. You're

00:18:25.480 obviously Michael. You know what I mean? They were just like, you're Candace going through a tomboy

00:18:29.760 phase. And then, you know, when I got older, suddenly I thought those boys I was running around the

00:18:33.660 playground with were attractive. So these kids are not even being allowed to grow up and their parents

00:18:37.780 start pigeonholing them into these decisions, which if you grow up and, you know, allow that to

00:18:42.720 happen, this is going to end up with depression, suicide. The rates are staggering for transgendered

00:18:48.460 individuals who actually transition and commit suicide thereafter. There's a lot of transitioning

00:18:53.380 regret and it's because they don't have parents parenting, you know, and that's sad.

00:18:58.700 Yeah. To your point about this not being an LGB thing, but a T thing, you know, when you look at the

00:19:04.380 numbers, the L lesbians are being basically erased in the younger generations as we see the trans 1.00

00:19:10.740 numbers go up. And it's also, it's interesting, you say, as a tomboy, you know, if you were a tomboy

00:19:17.200 now with some of the modern parents, they'd say you were trans. And that's why it's this irony where

00:19:22.320 actually the left has made gender a more rigid thing because now it's actually, if you're a girl,

00:19:30.600 you're not allowed to behave like a boy because if you do, now you become a boy. So for a long time,

00:19:36.860 it seemed like they were saying, well, just because let's, let's open up, let's be more

00:19:40.780 open-minded. And if you're a girl, it doesn't mean you have to play with dolls. You can play with

00:19:43.640 trucks too. I'm on board for that. But now they've, they've, they've kind of contradicted

00:19:47.960 themselves and they said, well, come to think of it. If you, if you're a girl playing with the

00:19:51.640 trucks, maybe you're actually a boy. So. Right. Yeah. They've made it more rigid. And that's what I say in

00:19:55.680 terms of race too, these things that they focus on, they say that they're trying to make things

00:19:59.180 better. They always worsen them. You know, that it wasn't an issue for girls to play with guys. 1.00

00:20:03.220 If I was in the toy store and saw a boy's sign and a girl's sign, A, I don't even know if I was

00:20:07.540 reading it at the time that I was going to Toys R Us, which is now extinct. But secondly,

00:20:11.860 if I wanted to go into the boys' aisle and grab something, I would have just done it. My parents

00:20:15.180 would never been like, what are you doing in the boys' aisle? I never felt traumatized that there were

00:20:19.460 like, you know, they were filtering products. And by the way, guys do, they gravitate towards

00:20:24.460 different things. My, my brother paid, played with entirely different things. We wanted the

00:20:29.360 Barbies. It wasn't because of a gender construct, you know, we wanted the Barbies. I wanted to take

00:20:33.900 care. I wanted to pamper. I wanted a baby doll. Those maternal instincts happen at such a young age. 0.92

00:20:38.300 My, um, uh, brother, he wanted video games. He wanted trucks. He wanted things that I just

00:20:44.260 wouldn't have played with, but nothing was stopping us from playing with the other, you know, the other

00:20:48.660 toy. It's certainly not our parents. Yeah. That's I, I, my first kids were boy, girl, twins.

00:20:54.660 And, you know, you put, you bring them to the playroom, got all the toys laid out. And even

00:20:59.740 at two years old, they tend to gravitate towards their gender typical toys. But it's not like I'm

00:21:04.340 standing there to my son, get your hands off that doll. Trucks are for you, son. Yeah. Um, now,

00:21:10.500 okay, let's, we got to talk about your show. That's, that's, that's supposed to be the main

00:21:13.880 topic here. We've gone off and I'm not a very good interviewer. I'm taking us on a circuitous path.

00:21:18.820 It's fun. It's best when they're just natural, you know? Uh, so your, your show is debuting soon.

00:21:23.480 Can you tell us, I, I, even, even here I've been, it's been sort of like mysterious. What is

00:21:28.300 the key to the show? Yeah, very mysterious. I heard there's going to be an audience. I heard

00:21:31.180 these kinds of things. So what's, uh, can you tell us about the show? Can you give us? A lot

00:21:34.300 of rumors. Yeah. Um, yeah. So I think, you know, we kind of just wanted to create something that

00:21:39.340 hasn't really been done before for conservatives and it's, the time is super opportune, right? You have

00:21:44.680 minimally 80 million Americans who just feel like they're not being heard right now and who feel like

00:21:49.660 they're being castigated for their political views. And it also feels like we've been increasingly

00:21:53.780 shut out of culture. Like, Oh, we can't have, you know, conservatives aren't allowed to be funny.

00:21:58.440 They're not allowed to have live audiences. This is not a thing that conservatives are allowed to do.

00:22:02.820 So we are doing a live, uh, live audience show and it will be very much in the vein of a lot,

00:22:08.420 like a lot of the old school late night talk shows when they were actually fun, right? When they

00:22:13.760 actually had a sense of humor and they weren't so polarizing, um, and done entirely at the expense

00:22:18.800 of half of the country. Um, and so I always say to people, I wanted to create something and it's,

00:22:23.440 it's so funny to me to say this now, but when I was growing up, I loved Chelsea lately before she

00:22:29.900 went lefty, wacko, couldn't take a joke. And now she's taking Xanax to deal with the election results.

00:22:34.600 She was funny along once upon a time, Chelsea Handler was actually funny and irreverent and had a sense

00:22:39.340 of humor and made fun of everyone. Um, and it was a feel good show. It had, you know, had a panel.

00:22:44.820 So there were elements that I really loved and missed about having a woman who could have a sense

00:22:49.300 of humor and not take herself so seriously, um, first and foremost, and just kind of creating a

00:22:54.420 show that does still also have a real purpose. We're not sitting around talking about celebrities

00:22:59.760 like she was talking about, but we are talking about these sort of really important political

00:23:04.040 issues, um, that are getting lost because a lot of the times, you know, the news cycle

00:23:09.120 moves so quickly that it's almost, we're all ADD, right? One second, you're trying to talk about

00:23:13.920 this issue and then they've kicked it and they're talking about this issue. And I really wanted to

00:23:18.140 sort of, um, get people focused on these issues. Like we just talked about in this show, um, to

00:23:23.640 really understand what is happening in this country, how serious it is. Um, but also to give them a

00:23:29.820 message of hope. And that's through my monologue and my epilogue. What would you say at the end when

00:23:35.060 you say something at the end? Epilogue, maybe?

00:23:36.560 Call it an epilogue, sure.

00:23:37.480 Yeah, but like, no, but like the opposite of an epilogue is a prologue and I wouldn't call

00:23:40.260 the monologue the prologue. Well, I guess it's a monologue prologue. Yeah. And then it's a monologue

00:23:44.220 epilogue.

00:23:44.860 Or just call it the monologue at the end.

00:23:46.300 Yeah.

00:23:46.420 It's the simplest thing.

00:23:47.120 Yeah.

00:23:47.820 Monologue at the end.

00:23:48.960 Yeah.

00:23:49.240 Um, and, and sort of giving them a sense of hope and, and letting people know, okay,

00:23:53.060 it does kind of feel like the world's on fire and we're just watching it burn. Um, but there,

00:23:58.640 there are some things to feel hopeful about. People are fighting back. People are winning. Um, and to invite,

00:24:04.800 you know, for the interview segments, Americans, you know, of course there will be some celebrities,

00:24:08.980 um, put onto the show as well, but also I'm inspired by a lot of Americans that are fighting

00:24:13.680 back, uh, students who are fighting back against, uh, the indoctrination that's happening at their

00:24:18.460 schools. And, uh, it's going to be a really fun show.

00:24:21.860 That's bringing the hope into it is good because I, and that'll be good to eject a little bit of

00:24:26.180 sunlight here because I'm just doom and gloom. That's my perspective is we're all doomed.

00:24:30.580 Some people like to watch the world burn, right? That's your show. So, but it's, I think it's hard

00:24:35.520 to inject sometimes, uh, actual hope in a way that is, that's, that's real and substantive and

00:24:42.560 not, and not superficial.

00:24:43.620 Right. And to inspire people, like I said, uh, you know, I was reading a story about these

00:24:47.700 literal, I'm trying to get them on my show, but these Catholic teens who were going to school at

00:24:54.420 the time, obviously at the time of George Floyd, uh, George Floyd protesting. And when everyone

00:24:58.420 just went super woke and one of their classmates had gone back and found old pictures of them

00:25:03.900 where the kid had acne in one picture, he had an all white face mask. Next picture, he had

00:25:08.660 an all green face mask with his two buddies. And they just said, that's black face, green

00:25:13.200 mask, acne mask. He actually had acne. The school, he got expelled and they, and they said, we know

00:25:18.880 you didn't actually do this, but it's very important for us to send a political message

00:25:22.660 right now in this time. Incredible.

00:25:24.880 Hang on. He got expelled for using acne.

00:25:27.640 Yeah. You either withdraw or we're going to expel you. And his parents withdrew and then

00:25:31.380 lawyered up and are suing and are actually winning. Right. And so that's kind of the message

00:25:36.720 people need to hear. Cause I always get these questions of like, what can I do? What can

00:25:39.900 I do? Fight. You got to fight. This is not a time now to say, what can I do? Your parents,

00:25:43.800 you got to fight for your students. You got to go in, you got to march into the doors.

00:25:46.860 If they do something crazy like that, well, it's just, it's an important message for us to

00:25:50.140 send that you and green face is in fact not okay. You know, because George Floyd died and it's

00:25:55.200 what, what world are we living in? Um, so kind of like those stories, talking to these

00:25:59.760 teens, talking to these parents, parents need to see that and say, wow, they won, you know,

00:26:03.880 and, and, um, know that they can do that too. It's, it's very easy. You don't need to always

00:26:08.640 look to your political heroes and say, and, and figure out what you can do. It's going to

00:26:12.700 start on the, it's going to start at the ground level or it's not going to happen, you know?

00:26:16.160 Well, we're all excited for the new show. Um, and, uh, thanks for joining us, Candace.

00:26:20.920 Thanks for having me. Yeah, absolutely.

The Matt Walsh Show - March 20, 2021

Candace Owens on Meghan Markle, The Transgender Agenda, & Her New Show.

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