The Matt Walsh Show - June 18, 2021


Conservative Matt Walsh Takes Anti-Racist Training

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In this episode, we take a look at the latest HR indoctrination video from EJ4, a company that has worked with such notable corporations as Pepsi, Medieval Times, Krispy Kreme, and plenty of others. In this video, we look at an anti-racism continuum that is broken down into three parts: The fear zone, the learning zone, and the growth zone. As a person on a journey towards becoming anti-racist, you fall somewhere within this continuum.

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00:00:00.000 Okay, so today we're going to look at some more HR indoctrination videos.
00:00:04.020 Many of you are personally familiar with this kind of thing.
00:00:06.720 You've perhaps had to endure them yourself.
00:00:09.960 I don't have to endure them, but I choose to for your sake.
00:00:13.400 I do this in order to suffer alongside you.
00:00:15.720 This is how compassionate I am.
00:00:17.800 And also I do it for YouTube views.
00:00:19.540 So it's a win-win.
00:00:20.580 It's sort of like it's 50-50, both of them.
00:00:23.200 Anyway, this one's from a company called EJ4,
00:00:26.760 which puts these kinds of videos together
00:00:28.720 and they distribute them to all sorts of other companies
00:00:32.460 that they do in their HR training sessions slash brainwashing sessions.
00:00:37.160 And they've worked with such notable corporations as Pepsi,
00:00:41.180 Medieval Times, Krispy Kreme, and plenty of others.
00:00:44.960 So without further ado, let's take a look.
00:00:54.320 Maybe you've seen this graphic floating around the internet.
00:00:57.460 It was designed by Andrew M. Ibrahim,
00:01:00.620 and he gives Ibram X. Kendi and other modern anti-racism writers
00:01:04.540 credit for many of the ideas within the graphic.
00:01:07.320 I want to give you a quick overview of it because it's a useful tool.
00:01:11.200 And then I want to show you a similar graphic we made
00:01:14.020 that focuses on an anti-racism continuum for the workplace.
00:01:18.520 So let's get into Dr. Ibrahim's graphic real quick.
00:01:21.880 This graphic is broken down into three phases.
00:01:24.500 As a person on a journey towards becoming anti-racist,
00:01:28.060 you fall somewhere within this continuum.
00:01:31.200 Ibrahim breaks this continuum into three main groups.
00:01:34.720 The fear zone,
00:01:36.240 the learning zone,
00:01:38.660 and the growth zone.
00:01:40.660 Okay, so what does any of this have to do with donuts? 0.79
00:01:45.180 Racist donut.
00:01:47.080 I mean, why should an employee at Krispy Kreme, 0.92
00:01:49.600 for example,
00:01:51.280 need to know any of this?
00:01:53.960 I mean, I say no as if this is real information,
00:01:56.360 as if there's anything,
00:01:57.000 as if this is anything other than contrived cultish nonsense.
00:02:00.040 But maybe no isn't the right word.
00:02:02.500 But the point is,
00:02:03.240 you're an employee at Krispy Kreme.
00:02:05.360 Back at it again at Krispy Kreme.
00:02:06.900 You make donuts for a living.
00:02:10.020 You don't even make them, actually.
00:02:11.240 You just watch them on a conveyor belt,
00:02:13.240 and then they come out,
00:02:14.080 and they're delicious for the first 60 seconds
00:02:15.740 that they come out,
00:02:16.420 and then they're inedible thereafter.
00:02:18.340 And that's your job.
00:02:19.300 Why do you need to be anti-racist to do that job?
00:02:22.680 Maybe we'll find out.
00:02:23.500 Let's keep watching.
00:02:24.840 You can see that in the fear zone,
00:02:26.780 we're either denying that racism is a problem,
00:02:29.320 or we're not interested in
00:02:31.160 or willing to take action to combat it.
00:02:33.660 That is a comfortable space
00:02:35.140 for people with race privilege.
00:02:37.020 Okay, so I guess I'm in the fear zone.
00:02:40.420 I guess I am.
00:02:41.400 It's weird because I don't feel afraid, but...
00:02:43.860 No, be afraid.
00:02:45.860 Yeah, I do deny that anti-black racism
00:02:48.040 is a big problem in society.
00:02:49.580 I deny that it's...
00:02:50.380 I deny that.
00:02:50.960 I deny that it's a big problem.
00:02:51.980 I think it's one of the lesser significant problems, actually.
00:02:56.840 I think there's very little of it in reality,
00:02:58.860 in this country anyway, in modern times.
00:03:00.560 And all of our cultural institutions
00:03:03.620 are dedicated to elevating racial minorities,
00:03:07.000 often at the expense of white people.
00:03:08.600 So yes, I deny the premise.
00:03:12.480 As far as not being interested,
00:03:14.240 yeah, again, I'm not really interested
00:03:16.520 in what this woman has to say.
00:03:19.960 Like, I don't care.
00:03:20.980 I don't care!
00:03:21.940 I don't care what any race cultist
00:03:24.040 or critical race theorist thinks.
00:03:27.000 Deny, don't care.
00:03:29.000 That's me.
00:03:30.140 But rather than engaging
00:03:31.460 with those viewpoints, of course,
00:03:33.120 the strategy here is always to label them.
00:03:35.720 It's never to engage.
00:03:36.860 It never is.
00:03:37.500 It's always...
00:03:38.200 The strategy is always simply to label.
00:03:40.020 We're going to slap a label on that
00:03:41.340 and put it in a box.
00:03:43.100 And in this case,
00:03:43.600 we're just going to call that fear.
00:03:45.900 Let's continue.
00:03:47.600 People sometimes get offended
00:03:49.240 by that term, race privilege.
00:03:51.200 So let me quickly define it
00:03:52.780 to ease any defensive feelings toward that.
00:03:55.540 Someone's ability to be in the fear zone
00:03:57.600 means that their life
00:03:58.900 is not negatively impacted
00:04:00.600 by the color of their skin.
00:04:02.260 It's not saying that their life is easy,
00:04:04.720 that they've not had to work hard,
00:04:06.440 and it doesn't negate struggles.
00:04:08.480 It simply means that their life
00:04:10.100 is not negatively impacted
00:04:11.680 by the color of their skin.
00:04:13.540 That's race privilege. 0.79
00:04:14.840 And it's important to know
00:04:16.020 not everyone has that luxury.
00:04:18.540 Not everyone has that luxury.
00:04:19.960 I mean, that's true.
00:04:21.820 So what people don't have that luxury,
00:04:26.180 let's think about that.
00:04:27.560 Affirmative action
00:04:28.340 is actual real-life systemic discrimination
00:04:30.900 explicitly set against white people.
00:04:34.140 That's what it is.
00:04:35.520 Also, as a white person,
00:04:36.660 you're constantly berated as racist
00:04:38.240 and forced to endorse stuff like this.
00:04:40.580 You're cast as society's villains.
00:04:42.480 So yeah, your life can be negatively impacted
00:04:44.320 by the color of your skin
00:04:45.320 as a white person.
00:04:47.400 So who has the race privilege exactly?
00:04:49.080 If you're ready to move out of the fear zone,
00:04:51.760 then you start to do some of these things
00:04:53.580 in the learning zone.
00:04:55.000 Asking questions, reading books,
00:04:57.160 evaluating your privilege,
00:04:58.680 listening to people who look different than you.
00:05:00.840 And guess what?
00:05:02.000 Some of the things in this learning zone
00:05:03.640 are going to be shocking
00:05:04.960 and upsetting and uncomfortable
00:05:06.880 because you'll learn that things you hoped
00:05:09.260 weren't true, in fact, are true.
00:05:12.340 The learning zone.
00:05:14.140 We're in the learning zone.
00:05:15.560 I'm learning.
00:05:16.620 I just, I love the condescending nature to it.
00:05:19.880 Like we're in a kindergarten class now.
00:05:22.060 These are all, these are adults at a, you know,
00:05:24.120 probably they're working for a living at a company
00:05:27.200 and being condescended to in this way.
00:05:30.640 Okay, kids, we're in the learning zone now.
00:05:34.340 Let me put you in the learning zone, lady. 1.00
00:05:37.440 Want to learn something shocking here? 1.00
00:05:41.000 You're full of s***. 0.99
00:05:42.000 That might be a surprising factoid for you. 1.00
00:05:45.320 I know.
00:05:46.800 And by the way, I'm still waiting
00:05:48.620 until this circles back around to donuts
00:05:50.900 or to anything that would be helpful
00:05:54.400 or necessary for someone working at Pepsi
00:05:57.300 or Krispy Kreme or Medieval Times.
00:05:59.380 Thanks to you, Fair Winch.
00:06:00.480 One of these companies to actually know
00:06:02.900 in order to do their job.
00:06:05.440 But things are going to get, things get,
00:06:07.080 so we've started annoying and irritating
00:06:09.020 and now things are going to take a darker turn
00:06:11.280 and get pretty disturbing.
00:06:13.980 Let's keep going.
00:06:15.300 Now, when you start to learn about
00:06:16.920 and get shocked by the experiences of others,
00:06:19.660 then hopefully you become motivated
00:06:21.560 to push yourself into the growth zone.
00:06:23.960 You start to speak out.
00:06:25.580 You promote and advocate for policies
00:06:27.480 that are anti-racist
00:06:28.680 and you yield your power to marginalized groups.
00:06:31.400 There, you see how she sneaks that in there? 1.00
00:06:33.500 You, she just sneaks it right in. 1.00
00:06:37.080 Yield your power to marginalized groups.
00:06:41.080 Hey, nothing to worry about.
00:06:42.340 You know, it's no big deal.
00:06:43.300 Just give up your status and position
00:06:45.240 that you've achieved through hard work and effort
00:06:47.460 and hand it over to some other random person
00:06:49.780 based purely on the color of their skin.
00:06:52.180 No, no big deal.
00:06:53.840 Don't freak out about it.
00:06:55.060 We're just telling you to be a whimpering, submissive,
00:06:58.220 constantly apologizing and flagellating yourself 0.69
00:07:01.300 and gratefully accept your own mistreatment.
00:07:04.820 That's all.
00:07:06.920 Yield your power.
00:07:08.900 They don't say submit, surrender, anything.
00:07:12.860 It's yield your power.
00:07:17.260 Let's continue.
00:07:18.640 The important thing to know here
00:07:20.180 is that in order to move through this journey,
00:07:22.100 to transition from the fear zone to the learning zone
00:07:25.240 to the growth zone,
00:07:26.260 you have to put in work.
00:07:27.920 You have to allow for mental shifts
00:07:29.700 and you have to allow yourself to be uncomfortable.
00:07:32.980 Put in work.
00:07:33.920 There it is.
00:07:34.680 Everyone take a drink.
00:07:36.360 In this case, my drink of choice will be gasoline
00:07:38.700 just to put myself out of my misery.
00:07:40.580 Or maybe not because I think,
00:07:41.780 I get the feeling that's exactly what this lady
00:07:43.080 would want me to do.
00:07:44.680 As a white man. 0.98
00:07:45.720 As the dreaded white man. 0.99
00:07:46.640 The white man! 0.98
00:07:48.160 We're going to skip ahead a little bit.
00:07:52.720 This video, this goes on forever.
00:07:55.400 We're going to go a little bit further ahead
00:07:57.000 and see what else we can find.
00:07:59.300 Within this zone,
00:08:00.420 you're complacent working in an organization
00:08:03.120 that excludes people of marginalized groups.
00:08:06.300 You're complacent working in an organization
00:08:08.460 that demonstrates inequity in pay, hiring, and leadership.
00:08:12.160 You intentionally or unintentionally
00:08:15.420 choose to work most closely with people who look like you.
00:08:19.560 You either do not understand or do not believe
00:08:22.120 in the value that diversity brings to an organization.
00:08:25.500 Or you make comments or jokes
00:08:27.620 that oppress marginalized groups.
00:08:29.900 This list can continue, but you get the idea.
00:08:32.720 Where to begin?
00:08:35.140 First, she says that you're in the fear zone
00:08:37.960 if you're complacent while working in a company
00:08:41.840 that excludes people of color.
00:08:44.840 No, ma'am.
00:08:45.880 If I may assume your gender.
00:08:47.420 It's not complacency.
00:08:49.120 It's just that, well, what's the problem?
00:08:51.260 Nobody works in a company like that
00:08:53.840 because no such company exists anywhere in the country.
00:08:57.820 Which is a good thing.
00:08:59.640 Should celebrate that.
00:09:01.540 There is no company anywhere in the country
00:09:03.780 that excludes people
00:09:05.760 based on the color of their skin.
00:09:07.820 Unless we're talking about affirmative action 0.65
00:09:09.680 and they're singling out white people and Asians.
00:09:14.560 So there are no companies excluding racial minorities
00:09:17.880 except for Asians,
00:09:19.320 which is an affirmative action policy
00:09:21.620 that the left endorses.
00:09:23.340 Other than that, it's not happening.
00:09:24.820 It doesn't exist.
00:09:25.880 So I am complacent
00:09:27.860 in the face of a non-existent problem.
00:09:31.120 Yeah, I'm complacent
00:09:32.260 in the face of all non-existent problems.
00:09:34.200 I'm very complacent about them.
00:09:36.320 Because they're not,
00:09:37.080 they're just, they're not real.
00:09:38.880 It's a made-up tip.
00:09:39.880 Also, she uses the phrase,
00:09:42.600 or she says you're in a fear zone
00:09:44.420 if you don't value,
00:09:45.740 if you don't believe in the value of diversity.
00:09:47.840 Once again, you see,
00:09:48.860 not going to bother explaining
00:09:51.080 why diversity matters in and of itself.
00:09:53.640 Not even going to bother explaining it.
00:09:54.740 It's just, if you don't agree with her,
00:09:57.060 it's because you're afraid.
00:09:58.240 I don't believe in the value of diversity
00:10:00.920 in and of itself.
00:10:03.400 I don't see how a company is made better
00:10:05.520 simply through diversity.
00:10:07.820 I can see how companies are made better
00:10:09.240 by hiring people who are very good
00:10:11.080 at doing the job.
00:10:12.500 And if diversity is a byproduct of that,
00:10:15.360 then fantastic.
00:10:17.980 And then she uses the phrase,
00:10:20.100 comments or jokes
00:10:22.160 that oppress marginalized groups.
00:10:26.940 What is, you know what,
00:10:27.800 I'm going to,
00:10:30.060 what is the definition,
00:10:31.200 just for fun,
00:10:32.440 the dictionary definition
00:10:33.640 of the word oppressed,
00:10:34.600 because it comes up so often.
00:10:36.540 And you can only do this,
00:10:37.740 it's like they've started changing
00:10:39.260 the dictionary definitions of things
00:10:41.220 to more align with critical race theory.
00:10:42.980 But as of right now,
00:10:44.540 the dictionary definition of oppress
00:10:45.820 is to keep someone
00:10:48.380 in subservience and hardship,
00:10:50.880 especially by the unjust exercise
00:10:53.560 of authority.
00:10:55.540 So, through a joke,
00:10:58.880 you are exercising authority
00:11:02.880 that keeps someone in subservience. 0.91
00:11:06.440 Through a joke.
00:11:07.920 That's the joke.
00:11:09.220 Right.
00:11:10.120 Okay, let's keep going.
00:11:12.040 What are some characteristics
00:11:13.260 that you can work towards
00:11:14.500 that indicate you're moving
00:11:15.620 from the fear zone
00:11:16.680 to the learning zone?
00:11:18.100 Yeah, I don't care. 1.00
00:11:19.040 Shut up. 1.00
00:11:19.940 We don't need your homework assignments. 1.00
00:11:21.920 Let's skip.
00:11:22.520 What we're going to do
00:11:23.200 is we're going to skip all the way to,
00:11:24.660 because like I said,
00:11:25.100 this goes on.
00:11:26.640 And my God,
00:11:27.200 if you work for one of these companies,
00:11:28.360 you probably have to endure.
00:11:29.940 It's like,
00:11:30.240 this is a 10 or 20 minute video,
00:11:32.080 15 minute video, something.
00:11:33.600 And you probably have to endure
00:11:34.860 a whole battery of these,
00:11:35.900 a whole series of these.
00:11:36.840 I can't even imagine it.
00:11:38.720 But let's skip to the end
00:11:40.020 and see how all of this
00:11:41.380 wraps up.
00:11:42.960 Don't assume that you can speak
00:11:45.600 for a minority group.
00:11:47.200 Not all people of color
00:11:48.440 have the same experience
00:11:49.660 and the same needs.
00:11:52.080 Likewise,
00:11:53.060 not all black people 0.83
00:11:54.240 have the same experiences
00:11:55.680 or needs.
00:11:56.980 Going further,
00:11:58.120 not all black women
00:11:58.980 have the same experiences
00:12:00.180 and needs.
00:12:01.280 And guess what?
00:12:02.340 Not all black women 0.99
00:12:03.480 living in the Midwest
00:12:04.500 between the ages of 40 and 45
00:12:06.440 with bachelor's degrees
00:12:07.740 have the same experiences
00:12:09.420 or needs.
00:12:10.280 While it might be appropriate
00:12:11.960 for you to speak
00:12:12.940 for a specific person of color
00:12:14.760 in your organization,
00:12:16.260 maybe you're promoting
00:12:17.120 their work or defending them,
00:12:18.860 it's never appropriate
00:12:20.340 for you to speak
00:12:21.420 for an entire group of people,
00:12:23.840 especially one
00:12:24.940 that you're not part of.
00:12:26.420 Yeah.
00:12:26.960 Uh, okay.
00:12:29.260 Yes?
00:12:30.060 I know that.
00:12:31.940 Well, just so you know,
00:12:32.840 not all black people 0.83
00:12:33.600 have the same experiences.
00:12:35.640 Obviously?
00:12:37.040 Who are you talking to?
00:12:38.780 Who is this?
00:12:39.820 What straw man
00:12:41.220 have you just constructed? 0.99
00:12:42.980 Some people without brains 0.98
00:12:44.160 do an awful lot of talking. 0.96
00:12:45.540 My lord,
00:12:46.020 first of all,
00:12:46.820 as was obvious from the start,
00:12:48.840 um,
00:12:49.280 but especially obvious now,
00:12:50.800 and we got in that segment there.
00:12:53.460 This is a brainwashing video
00:12:55.320 specifically directed 0.96
00:12:56.980 towards white employees.
00:12:59.000 They don't even pretend anymore
00:13:00.900 that this is for everybody.
00:13:03.340 It's very clear there, 0.81
00:13:04.680 this is for white people.
00:13:05.860 We are talking to you, 0.97
00:13:07.320 whitey, 1.00
00:13:07.760 white devil. 0.99
00:13:09.140 And just so you know, 0.99
00:13:11.060 okay,
00:13:11.640 that is illegal.
00:13:13.120 This is illegal,
00:13:14.120 you know.
00:13:14.700 I'm not a lawyer.
00:13:15.500 I don't have to be.
00:13:16.920 I know that you cannot
00:13:18.640 single out employees
00:13:19.840 based on race
00:13:21.000 and subject them
00:13:21.900 to different treatment
00:13:22.800 based on their race.
00:13:23.940 You can't do that.
00:13:25.480 It is extremely illegal.
00:13:28.880 Second,
00:13:29.480 she says,
00:13:29.940 and this is,
00:13:30.280 this is great.
00:13:30.780 It's just a perfect place
00:13:31.580 to end it
00:13:32.040 because she says,
00:13:33.100 after this whole video,
00:13:34.580 she says,
00:13:35.780 you can't lump all people
00:13:36.960 of one race together
00:13:38.120 and speak for them.
00:13:40.220 That's exactly
00:13:41.320 what she's doing 0.81
00:13:42.340 for the whole video.
00:13:44.460 She is lumping
00:13:45.600 all white people together
00:13:46.940 and making a whole series
00:13:48.840 of assumptions,
00:13:50.040 insulting,
00:13:51.360 demeaning,
00:13:52.060 degrading assumptions
00:13:53.240 about them
00:13:54.480 and speaking both
00:13:57.000 to them
00:13:57.940 in a demeaning way,
00:13:59.960 which is problem number one,
00:14:00.660 and also speaking for them
00:14:02.100 because she is saying
00:14:04.600 as a non-white person herself,
00:14:06.600 she's saying,
00:14:07.280 well, 0.77
00:14:07.480 this is what you white people 0.98
00:14:08.500 need to do. 0.97
00:14:10.320 I know what you need.
00:14:12.340 I'll tell you what you need
00:14:13.700 doing exactly what
00:14:17.580 she is accusing others of doing.
00:14:20.580 And that is the whole basis
00:14:21.740 of critical race theory.
00:14:23.260 It is demeaning,
00:14:24.500 insulting,
00:14:26.200 horrifying,
00:14:26.540 but it's not going to go anywhere
00:14:28.080 until we start fighting
00:14:29.840 this stuff in court.
00:14:32.020 That's the only way it stops.