The Matt Walsh Show - Daily Wire Backstage： Derek Chauvin Verdict

00:00:00.000 Hey everyone, this is Matt Walsh telling you to stop whatever you're doing and check out the latest episode of Daily Wire Backstage.

00:00:05.700 All of our hosts, Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, Michael Knowles, Candace Owens, and yours truly discuss the facts surrounding the Derek Chauvin verdict and its implications for our culture.

00:00:15.480 Very interesting conversation. You don't want to miss it. Check it out.

00:00:19.360 Members of the jury, I will now read the verdicts as they will appear in the permanent records of the 4th Judicial District.

00:00:24.140 We, the jury in the above entitled matter, as to count one, unintentional second-degree murder while committing a felony, find the defendant guilty.

00:00:32.640 This verdict agreed to this 20th day of April, 2021, at 1.44 p.m. Signed, juror foreperson, juror number 19.

00:00:42.880 Same caption, verdict count two. We, the jury in the above entitled matter, as to count two, third-degree murder, perpetrating an eminently dangerous act, find the defendant guilty.

00:00:51.980 This verdict agreed to this 20th day of April, 2021, at 1.45 p.m. Signed by jury foreperson, juror number 19.

00:01:02.480 Same caption, verdict count three. We, the jury in the above entitled matter, as to count three, second-degree manslaughter, culpable negligence, creating an unreasonable risk, find the defendant guilty.

00:01:13.520 This verdict agreed to this 20th day of April, 2021, at 1.45 p.m.

00:01:18.100 Well, good afternoon. Welcome to Backstage. I'm Jeremy Boring, joined by Ben Shapiro, Matt Walsh, Andrew Klavan, Michael Knowles, and Candace Owens will be joining us directly.

00:01:28.680 And we've just learned the verdict in the Derek Chauvin trial, and we will be coming to you live with as many updates as possible.

00:01:36.180 Right now, the verdict is guilty on all charges. Ben, tell us what it means.

00:01:40.260 So, it means that, I'm not sure whether the sentencing is cumulative or whether it is they take the top sentence and then everything else falls under that, but because he doesn't have a criminal record, that means he maxes out at 12 and a half years for second-degree murder, 12 and a half years for third-degree murder, four years or so for the manslaughter charge.

00:01:59.300 It was pretty obvious from how fast the jury came back that it was going to be guilty on all accounts.

00:02:04.180 As soon as they said the jury was coming back today, I immediately said to my producers and publicly that it was going to be guilty on all accounts because they were never going to acquit on all accounts that quickly.

00:02:13.920 If there had been an acquittal, it would have taken a while to get there.

00:02:16.000 My own prediction was that if there had been any sort of real evidentiary consideration, which I frankly do not think that there probably was in this case, it was a three-week trial.

00:02:24.200 There were 10 hours of consideration that is wildly disproportionate in a case that has this many conflicting fact patterns, that if they came back this fast, it would be a guilty verdict.

00:02:33.220 I thought any jury that looked at this would probably have gone hung jury on the two murder charges and then maybe convicted on the manslaughter charge.

00:02:42.220 If you were going to get very aggressive, that would be an aggressive jury.

00:02:44.680 If you were a non-aggressive jury, you would have hung on all three counts.

00:02:47.940 And if it had hung on all three counts, if it had hung at all, then the judge would have instructed them to keep going back in the jury room, trying to beat it out because the fact is that you need a unanimous verdict for either acquittal or for conviction in Minnesota.

00:02:59.540 The fact that it was unanimous that quickly meant pretty clearly that it was going to be conviction on all charges coming out.

00:03:05.840 We'll have to see whether people who had spent their nights planning for rioting and looting now actually go home or whether they go ahead and hit the local target in celebration, presumably.

00:03:14.680 Of the verdict.

00:03:16.120 But I think one thing is pretty clear for anybody who watched this case closely.

00:03:20.700 I don't know how closely you watched it, Drew or Jeremy.

00:03:22.920 I know, Matt, you watched it really closely.

00:03:24.680 For people who watched this case closely, there are elements here that it's very difficult to make the case to me that any rational jury would have come.

00:03:33.940 Who just looked at the evidence would have come to the conclusion that beyond a reasonable doubt, Chauvin was guilty of second or third degree murder.

00:03:40.060 This just did not fulfill the elements.

00:03:41.620 The third degree murder charge particularly is absurd on its face.

00:03:44.040 The third degree murder charge never should have been allowed in the courtroom.

00:03:46.380 The third degree murder charge is a charge for what is generally called depraved heart murder.

00:03:50.760 Depraved heart murder is you throw a brick onto a freeway and you don't have anybody you're explicitly attempting to kill, but you end up killing somebody on the freeway.

00:03:57.860 You shoot a gun into a crowd.

00:03:59.200 That's depraved heart murder. 0.86

00:04:00.300 And that was what the third degree murder charge was.

00:04:02.540 You have to have intent to kill others, right?

00:04:04.440 And then you end up killing one person.

00:04:06.120 It was counted anyway.

00:04:07.960 It shouldn't have been on the docket.

00:04:10.240 The second degree murder charge required felony assault that results in the murder.

00:04:13.860 So usually that is where you're robbing a store.

00:04:16.380 You got a gun.

00:04:17.320 The gun accidentally goes off and kills somebody, right?

00:04:19.460 Or the guy dies for some other reason while you're in the process of committing some sort of felony.

00:04:23.440 So you had to show that he intended to commit a felony against George Floyd.

00:04:27.300 It's very difficult to say that he intended to commit a felony against George Floyd because Minneapolis Police Department procedure allows you to do exactly what Chauvin was doing under these circumstances.

00:04:36.640 The manslaughter one was a little bit easier to make because the charges in the manslaughter case, you just have to have reckless disregard.

00:04:43.060 So the prosecution can make the case that even if he didn't mean to do anything bad, it was reckless for him not to get off of Floyd once Floyd was already unconscious and once Floyd was dying, he should have gotten off of him.

00:04:52.740 And it was reckless not to get off of him.

00:04:53.940 But the fact that they convicted on all three counts says to me that they weren't really looking at the evidence because, again, all three of those charges also rely on a simple question of causation, right?

00:05:04.240 Did George Floyd actually die because Derek Chauvin was on top of him with his knee?

00:05:09.820 What the defense showed repeatedly is that he did not have his knee on his neck, right?

00:05:13.700 There was no physical trauma to his trachea.

00:05:15.900 There was no evidence that there had been physical trauma to his arteries that would have cut off the oxygen to the brain.

00:05:23.800 There are a couple of different types of asphyxia.

00:05:25.520 There's physical asphyxia where he actually strangles somebody.

00:05:28.520 You deprive somebody of oxygen to the brain by cutting off their blood supply via their arterial blood flow.

00:05:34.520 And then there is a chemical asphyxia, which is drug overdose.

00:05:38.480 And the fact is that George Floyd had three times the deadly level of fentanyl in his system.

00:05:43.000 He was high as a kite.

00:05:43.620 He had 75% arterial blockage.

00:05:46.600 The medical examiner originally said if I'd found him dead in his room, I would have immediately assumed that it was a drug overdose, right?

00:05:51.560 And the only reason that this became a national issue is because of the tape, which on its face, when everybody first saw it, looks really ugly.

00:05:57.540 Because it turns out that a lot of policing looks really ugly.

00:06:00.840 And then when you get all of the lead up, at the very least, you don't have to say that you love what Chauvin did.

00:06:04.780 You don't have to say that Chauvin acted appropriately.

00:06:06.840 You don't have to say any of that stuff.

00:06:07.740 What you do have to say is to not even believe that there's reasonable doubt on the murder charges.

00:06:11.400 On the murder charges, where you would have to have intent, that suggests to me that this was far less about the actual facts of the case and far more about all of the hubbubs surrounding the case.

00:06:21.520 This trial never should have taken place in Minneapolis.

00:06:23.700 It should have immediately been transferred in terms of venue.

00:06:26.020 You were not going to find an impartial jury in Minneapolis in the single most publicized criminal justice case of our lifetime, at least since Rodney King.

00:06:33.440 They don't sequester them.

00:06:34.660 They didn't sequester them.

00:06:35.900 By the way, the judge in this case.

00:06:37.360 Because they're not sequestered, you have major political figures, the mayor, the president of the United States, the sitting congresswoman, all calling for a guilty verdict.

00:06:47.260 That has to have some impact on a jury, doesn't it?

00:06:49.160 Hours after the judge in the case reprimanded Maxine Waters, who flew from D.C. to the city before the jury had started deliberating to demand a guilty verdict.

00:07:01.120 In fact, she demanded a verdict on premeditated murder, which he wasn't even charged with.

00:07:04.960 And first of all, Maxine Waters going to Minneapolis, what else could that be other than an attempt to intimidate and tamper with the jury?

00:07:13.460 What other motivation could you have to fly as a high-ranking politician to the city where this local murder trial is happening and demand that the jury come to a verdict?

00:07:23.020 Either you believe in fair trials or you don't.

00:07:25.180 Either you want the jury to weigh the evidence and come to a decision or you don't.

00:07:28.920 It's clear that they don't here.

00:07:29.860 The problem, the irony is that the only verdict we could really trust is an acquittal in all counts.

00:07:36.920 I think that would have been the right verdict.

00:07:38.180 But it's also the only one you can trust because it's the only one that couldn't have been motivated by anything but a look at the evidence.

00:07:45.880 But with this verdict, you have to obviously wonder, is that how they saw it when they investigated the evidence?

00:07:52.980 Or are they coming to this decision because they know their lives might be over, might be ruined if they came to any other decision?

00:07:59.620 They know that the media is going to leak their identity and they're going to be looking over their shoulder for the rest of their lives.

00:08:05.380 They had a choice. They could be the heroes of the republic today or they could be the greatest villains in the history of the republic today.

00:08:10.720 And this had been tried out by the media. The media wanted the riots.

00:08:14.520 The media set this up. They want the riots.

00:08:16.380 I don't know any other way, any other motivation for their behavior other than they want the polarization, they want the riots.

00:08:21.600 Will there be riots anyway?

00:08:23.440 Probably some, but nothing like there would have been.

00:08:25.840 You know, it's funny. I was a court reporter.

00:08:28.140 I was at an actual newspaper man in courtrooms and I'm very slow to judge, to pass judgment on the verdicts of juries because I know that the world looks very different from the jury box than it does on TV or anywhere else.

00:08:40.280 But the one thing we can say about this trial is this is one of the greatest failures of our governing class I've ever seen.

00:08:46.160 And it is part and parcel of the failure of the of our governing class in handling COVID-19 and their lockdown and they're getting intoxicated with power.

00:08:55.320 But to have the president of the United States praying for the right verdict, to have Congresswomen sitting out there and calling for violence, to have people in the press, Yamiche Alcindor, is that her name, saying she could not believe that the prosecutor was contradicting.

00:09:11.620 The defense was prosecuting the contra. The defense was contradicting the prosecutor.

00:09:16.900 I thought, like, how stupid are these people? 0.99

00:09:20.360 You know, just before I got here, Jenna Ellis tweeted that she was praying that the jurors had acted justly, no matter what the verdict was. 1.00

00:09:30.060 The filth that came in in answer to this, the kind of these kind of stunted, ugly, demonic answers of just pouring absolute vile filth on her for not thinking that a trial should be decided on Twitter after watching a video.

00:09:44.520 And to Ben's point, I've also covered a lot of cops. I've seen a lot of arrests.

00:09:49.680 It is much, much easier to take a person down brutally than it is to take a person down safely.

00:09:55.920 To take a person down safely, you've got to wrestle him down. There's going to be violence. It's really ugly.

00:10:00.780 Frequently, they use more cops to do less damage.

00:10:03.980 One cop can take you down just by hitting you over the head with a stick in the right place.

00:10:08.120 But four cops can take you down safely. And so the things that you see on these videos are not dispositive.

00:10:14.360 They're simply not. You see a lot of ugly stuff on videos that move people.

00:10:18.160 And, of course, the politicians are working to gin up their emotions and so are the press.

00:10:22.280 It is a complete failure of our authoritative class, of our clerisy in defending American justice.

00:10:28.960 And, again, I'm not going to say this was the wrong verdict or the right verdict, but I will say that the behavior of these people, from the president on down, has been absolutely shameful and dangerous.

00:10:40.100 Candace, joining us, your thoughts on the guilty verdict, guilty on all charges.

00:10:45.340 It's the wrong verdict, in my opinion.

00:10:47.300 And I think that it's indicative of the fact that we now live in mob rule.

00:10:51.500 This is mob rule society.

00:10:53.160 I mean, this is based on the evidence that we saw.

00:10:55.280 And this was polluted from start to finish.

00:10:56.860 So, to me, the most important element of this, which I found to be astonishing, was the fact that they never released the full police footage.

00:11:03.700 They had it. They sat on it. They locked it down.

00:11:05.880 It leaked months and months later after the riots, you know, via the Daily Mail, I think.

00:11:10.240 But when I watched the full tape, I was astonished that they didn't think to just at least add this context so that people understood, yes, this person was high out of his mind.

00:11:19.200 He asked to be put on the ground.

00:11:22.020 He was resisting arrest.

00:11:23.500 Let's not forget what the media, what they did, the power they had in setting up this narrative to begin with.

00:11:27.600 First, the media said he was just getting his life together.

00:11:30.020 Do you remember St. George?

00:11:30.720 Yeah, I really do this all the time.

00:11:32.040 You guys remember St. George, right?

00:11:32.480 He was just getting his life together.

00:11:34.060 He had moved to Minnesota.

00:11:35.020 Yes, he was, you know, had been in prison in the past.

00:11:37.320 But he was just helping the youth.

00:11:39.100 And everyone was crying.

00:11:40.180 And it was, oh, my gosh, this man is, you know, is getting a second chance at life and, you know, maybe had the wrong idea or whatever it was, was using counterfeit bills.

00:11:49.440 And somebody called the police and then he was killed. 0.51

00:11:51.460 He was brutally murdered on the basis of him being black. 0.88

00:11:54.820 No indication.

00:11:55.940 Nothing was said out of Derek Chauvin's mouth that, you know, should insinuate that this was about being black versus white.

00:12:01.220 But that was what the media ran with.

00:12:02.860 And then they successfully hid every piece of evidence that would have transformed public opinion, right?

00:12:08.140 Every piece of evidence that would have said, wait a second, there's more here.

00:12:11.160 And they were upset when I released the video and just went over his track record because it was clear to me, according to his track record,

00:12:16.140 that it was very unlikely that a person that spends, you know, approximately nine prison stints, nine stints in prison,

00:12:22.060 was really just getting his life together after having served the last one.

00:12:26.120 So, you know, to me, I think the saddest part of this is that what we need to acknowledge is that right now, mob rules.

00:12:32.420 The media creates the mob and the mob rules.

00:12:34.660 And that's what we just saw play out.

00:12:36.180 So what do we say about it?

00:12:37.200 Candace makes this great point that the media had this footage.

00:12:40.500 Every person in the United States, probably half the people in the world saw this footage within days of the actual event.

00:12:49.200 And we all, I think, probably had a visceral reaction to it.

00:12:52.500 Very difficult footage to watch.

00:12:54.520 Once you emotionally attach a judgment to something like that, is it possible to have your mind changed?

00:13:02.280 I mean, that's why I think we all, it's a lesson that hopefully we've all learned by now that you just, I don't care what the video looks like.

00:13:09.660 I don't care what it looks like.

00:13:11.080 The first video you see, especially when it's just starting, you know, you're not getting, there's always going to be an interaction before where the video starts.

00:13:21.760 And so whatever it looks like on the video, you cannot come to a conclusion.

00:13:25.540 We just went through this with the 13-year-old kid.

00:13:29.520 I'm blanking on his name.

00:13:31.120 But another horrible video where you're watching a 13-year-old kid in a back alley getting shot.

00:13:38.480 He did have his hands up.

00:13:40.080 And it looks horrible.

00:13:41.220 Of course, it upsets everybody.

00:13:42.360 But they never even released the police footage.

00:13:44.460 Right.

00:13:44.720 Remember, the video that we saw that nine minutes was somebody else shooting it.

00:13:47.320 They never released this.

00:13:48.440 Let's just talk about how unusual that is, right, that they never released this full footage so that we could at least see the context and see more, at least be able to discern more facts other than somebody who's a bystander filming the video.

00:13:59.000 And remember when Brad Parscale, I want to bring up Brad Parscale.

00:14:01.220 Do you remember how quickly that footage was released when Brad Parscale, you know, got arrested when he was drunk and he got into a spot with his wife?

00:14:07.500 They released that footage, like, almost in the next minute.

00:14:10.340 He got arrested on a Monday and we had the footage by Monday afternoon.

00:14:14.540 But George Floyd footage, it was never for public consumption.

00:14:17.880 The Daily Mail got it months later and released it.

00:14:21.040 I also think we're probably at a point now where the full context doesn't even matter.

00:14:25.280 Because, like I was saying, with a 13-year-old kid, it comes out, oh, he had a gun.

00:14:28.440 He had a gun.

00:14:29.300 He was just firing it at cars passing by.

00:14:31.620 He's in a gang area.

00:14:32.680 The cop doesn't know that he's 13.

00:14:34.420 You know, he ditches the gun behind a fence.

00:14:36.360 The cop can't see that.

00:14:37.440 He turns around.

00:14:38.020 Like, obviously, that's a justified shooting.

00:14:39.760 But I think from the perspective of the left and the media, if a police officer shoots a non-white person, it is not justified, period.

00:14:50.060 At this point.

00:14:50.620 He sounds like Jacob Blake, right?

00:14:51.360 I mean, he saw both Kamala Harris and Joe Biden reach out to Jacob Blake's family.

00:14:54.620 The man had been at the house of a woman who called the cops on him because he had allegedly digitally raped her not all that long ago.

00:15:03.260 The cops show up.

00:15:04.180 He resists arrest.

00:15:04.880 He pulls a knife on the cops.

00:15:06.160 He refuses to abide by any of their requests.

00:15:07.720 He reaches into the car.

00:15:09.060 They shoot him.

00:15:09.920 And still, there are riots in Kenosha, Wisconsin.

00:15:11.820 And we see all the tape of it.

00:15:12.880 And we're told that the police get this wrong.

00:15:14.820 Don't forget, the NFL put Jacob Blake on the back.

00:15:17.520 The New Orleans Saints put Jacob Blake on the back of their how much during practice to honor him.

00:15:22.460 To honor him.

00:15:23.440 Which is also shameful, by the way, holding these guys up as heroes, even if they're unjustly killed, even if they don't deserve to die.

00:15:28.960 This is Candace's point, right?

00:15:29.720 This is my point.

00:15:30.260 When I got the video I did, the 100 million views, and they couldn't believe it because, oh my gosh, I'm alleging that maybe your little child shouldn't be, I don't care what's happened, maybe she shouldn't be wearing a George Floyd shirt.

00:15:41.760 Maybe they shouldn't be getting baptized in George Floyd's circle or wherever it was they were taking their children to be baptized.

00:15:46.780 They literally tried to transform him into a saint.

00:15:50.160 You know, they wanted to saint this man.

00:15:51.620 And all you had to do was look at his record and say, he has a wake of victims in his past.

00:15:57.320 Imagine the woman who, when he got arrested for the armed robbery, broke into her home, put a gun to her stomach.

00:16:04.180 Her child, her minor child was in the room during that time because he was looking for drugs and money.

00:16:09.200 He pretended, they pretended to be the water man, you know, and he breaks into the home.

00:16:13.060 And imagine that woman watching the media saint this man.

00:16:17.300 Right.

00:16:17.480 Imagine that victim. 0.98

00:16:19.080 And why I always say this is that actually black female lives definitely don't matter. 1.00

00:16:23.800 Well, that's true, too. 0.98

00:16:24.280 Because these black men that they keep hailing as heroes and victims always leave a trail of female black victims in their wake and nobody cares. 1.00

00:16:33.060 That's a common theme, right? 0.99

00:16:33.960 Because Daunte Wright, one of the more recent ones, he robbed a woman at gunpoint.

00:16:40.620 I mean, she was going to get her rent money. 0.74

00:16:42.960 He had just spent the night at her house.

00:16:44.440 She allowed him to stay.

00:16:45.440 She's going to get her rent money, follows her, robs her at gunpoint, reaches into her bra, actually, to take the money. 1.00

00:16:49.940 So that's sexual assault. 0.98

00:16:51.020 He chokes her. 0.96

00:16:52.460 And then George Floyd, Jacob Blake.

00:16:54.480 I mean, this is actually a common theme.

00:16:55.500 Heroes, all of them heroes.

00:16:56.360 Yeah, the women. 1.00

00:16:56.900 How they treat women. 0.97

00:16:57.420 But I think what a lot of this comes down to for the media is that there is a single-factor analysis that they're using, which is the worst kind of analysis to use.

00:17:04.060 Right.

00:17:04.180 Because it just removes all of the confounds.

00:17:05.740 And the single-factor analysis is all the problems that are experienced in America, in the criminal justice system, all the racial problems in America are due to cops.

00:17:13.320 All of them.

00:17:13.740 And therefore, if the cops are the problem, that means it doesn't matter what the alleged victim was doing.

00:17:20.500 It doesn't matter what the suspect was doing.

00:17:22.060 And not only that, it means that you have an immediate polarity because you have a villain.

00:17:25.920 And it's not enough.

00:17:26.420 You can't say there's a person who has a bad criminal record and also the cop shouldn't have done what he did to this person.

00:17:30.920 Right.

00:17:31.060 You can hold both of those things.

00:17:32.660 Right.

00:17:32.800 You could have come to the conclusion that Derek Chauvin acted wrongly and should have been convicted for manslaughter and still said George Floyd isn't a hero.

00:17:38.280 That is quite possible to say those things.

00:17:40.060 But because the media uses single-factor analysis, which is that America is a white supremacist country and therefore black people are deprived of all agency, are not responsible for any of their own actions, that means that it is just a question of good versus evil.

00:17:51.320 And you can identify it as quickly as looking at the races of the people who are involved without looking at the tape, without looking at any of the evidence in any of these cases.

00:17:57.280 We've seen cases in Chicago where it turns out a cop will shoot somebody.

00:18:00.860 And before you even know the facts of the case, somebody will send a text to somebody saying white cop, black suspect, and there are riots in the Chicago loop.

00:18:07.260 You remember this happened a few months ago.

00:18:07.780 And the race is always missing. 0.89

00:18:08.940 They always conveniently remove the race if it's the other way around. 0.97

00:18:12.820 They'll just say shooter.

00:18:14.060 Or invent a race, as with the Trayvon Martin, George Floyd, George Zimmerman, right, or white as manic. 0.55

00:18:19.540 I think the terrible part of the context that is completely, doubly erased, is first the high crime in black neighborhoods, which is not the fault of the police. 0.97

00:18:29.620 I mean, whosever fault it is, the police are the last guy on the ladder to receive this.

00:18:34.440 They've just got to stop the crime.

00:18:35.580 If the police had an app on their phone that could show criminal intent, they wouldn't be looking at the color of a person's face.

00:18:42.440 They'd be looking at the app on their phone.

00:18:44.120 They're just trying to find out who the bad guys are.

00:18:46.700 And most of the people they're protecting are the same, have the same color skin as they do.

00:18:50.620 So that's the first thing.

00:18:51.380 And the other thing is just the fact that putting all of this stuff on the cops as if that they had some kind of social power to shape the behavior of people in their neighborhoods, they don't have that.

00:19:03.120 Well, right now, how can you be a police officer?

00:19:05.700 That's what I was about to say.

00:19:07.180 What's the incentive?

00:19:07.640 It is.

00:19:08.820 You're about to see a crime spike like you have never seen in America's major cities.

00:19:11.920 We've seen it already.

00:19:12.580 You're already seeing it.

00:19:13.200 It's a 30 percent increase in homicide in America's major cities.

00:19:16.060 None of those are red cities.

00:19:17.600 They are all blue cities.

00:19:18.620 They're all run by Democrats.

00:19:19.900 I'm getting calls from members of the Minneapolis Police Department, NYPD, Chicago PD, LAPD, Washington, D.C. PD.

00:19:25.540 I'm getting calls from members of police departments all over the country, heads of unions, people saying our police officers are just going to leave.

00:19:31.180 They're going to take the early retirement if they can get it.

00:19:33.600 And if they can't get it, they'll still leave.

00:19:34.940 Or if they do continue to serve, they will sit there by the radio.

00:19:38.320 And if there is a call for a crime and they're a white officer and the person is a person of color who's a suspect, they will think twice before going to answer that crime. 0.90

00:19:45.420 Not because they don't want to help out.

00:19:47.000 Most of the people who join the cops are going to help out.

00:19:49.740 This is why they started this. 0.94

00:19:51.260 If you're a white guy and you want to serve in the Washington, D.C. Police Department, it's not generally because you're some sort of statist who wants to harm black people.

00:19:57.640 It's because you want to help the 85 percent black community in the particular area that you're policing.

00:20:02.460 And the people who are going to pay for this are not white people on CNN. 0.99

00:20:06.060 It's not going to be all the white jerks on court TV or celebrating today. 0.99

00:20:09.280 The people who are going to pay for all of this are all of the same people who are going to be abandoned when the cops leave their city. 0.99

00:20:14.540 I don't blame the cops.

00:20:16.020 I don't blame the cops.

00:20:16.960 And I think we're going to see this.

00:20:18.080 I do not blame the cops.

00:20:19.180 If I had, you know, if my son grew up and said, yeah, and said I want to be a police officer, I'd say absolutely not.

00:20:23.920 Are you kidding me?

00:20:24.660 And let's just talk about to draw a parallel.

00:20:26.280 And I brought this up earlier this week.

00:20:27.460 Number three leading cause of death in America are medical mistakes.

00:20:31.300 A quarter of a million plus people are killed every year because of medical mistakes. 0.98

00:20:34.960 Presumably a lot of those people that are being killed are black. 0.91

00:20:37.020 Could you imagine a scenario where they suddenly said, you know, doctors shouldn't be paid? 0.98

00:20:41.740 You know, let's let's doctors should have their jobs removed. 1.00

00:20:44.220 Doctors should go on trial. 0.99

00:20:45.840 Doctors, doctors should be put behind bars every time they make a mistake.

00:20:48.440 Even the idea that a police officer is never allowed to make a mistake, like in the case when she, you know, she misfired.

00:20:53.920 Again, none of this stuff would happen, these mistakes, if people could listen to police officers' instructions.

00:20:59.720 It's not that hard, right? 0.58

00:21:01.160 And right now you have black Americans that are learning that it doesn't matter. 1.00

00:21:04.460 You shouldn't have to.

00:21:05.120 In fact, the best case scenario is for a police officer to do anything wrong while you're resisting arrest because you will be transformed from a hero.

00:21:12.560 And I say transformed.

00:21:13.360 I'm talking about from a drug dealer, from a drug user.

00:21:16.080 I mean, all of these people from, you know, an accused rapist into a hero.

00:21:20.440 All you have to do is resist arrest and hope that a police officer makes a mistake in the moment, which is likely to happen when adrenaline is running through your in your veins because you're wondering, am I going to survive this?

00:21:30.800 Because police officers also have to go home to families, right?

00:21:33.920 Am I going to live when Rashad, whatever his name was, Rashad, who was the guy in Atlanta who grabbed Rayshard Brooks, grabbed the taser?

00:21:42.880 What are you thinking a police officer is going to think in that moment?

00:21:44.900 And yet still, the police officers are always demonized.

00:21:48.360 There is no incentive right now in this country to be a police officer.

00:21:51.020 Even if the cop is a bad cop, there are 700,000 police officers in this country.

00:21:55.640 That's the population of San Francisco.

00:21:58.220 If 1% of them are bad cops, if 1% of them are bad cops, that's a lot of bad cops.

00:22:03.460 If we look at this country as if it were like a small town.

00:22:06.760 And that's the way social media and the news media have combined to make us think about this country.

00:22:11.840 Like, wow, 13, what is it, 18 unarmed black people were shot last year?

00:22:16.140 Like 18 people in a country of 350 million?

00:22:18.220 Although, according to a survey of the left, it's over 1,000.

00:22:24.140 Yeah, I know.

00:22:24.660 I know.

00:22:25.260 In their imagination.

00:22:26.320 In their imagination.

00:22:26.800 Which is a very dangerous place.

00:22:27.740 By the way, there are over 40 million police-civilian interactions every year.

00:22:31.460 40 million police-civilian interactions.

00:22:33.580 And every one of those interactions is between the police and somebody having a bad day.

00:22:36.740 Because the reason that you're talking to the cops is because you had a bad day.

00:22:39.260 Right, right.

00:22:39.720 I mean, again, the people who are going to pay for the media's malfeasance here are not members of the media.

00:22:47.980 Who have the private security sitting outside their homes.

00:22:50.440 And members of private security sitting outside the headquarters of CNN.

00:22:54.040 It's going to be all the people.

00:22:54.780 They get criticized, let alone in police.

00:22:56.920 Actually, I want to pick up on this point.

00:22:58.660 I think it's important.

00:22:59.680 Because we see it at so many levels of our society right now.

00:23:03.300 That the media are so detached from the experience of everyday Americans.

00:23:08.080 Our politicians are so detached from the experience of everyday Americans.

00:23:11.380 You have, you know, Jeff Bezos makes $100 billion.

00:23:15.960 He makes his first $100 billion.

00:23:17.420 God bless him.

00:23:18.000 He created an amazing service, revolutionized the world.

00:23:21.240 I don't begrudge him being the richest man in the world.

00:23:22.880 He does that over the lifetime of Amazon to date.

00:23:26.320 Then, through his newspaper that he owns, the Washington Post, through the circles in which he runs, which are politicians and media elite.

00:23:34.540 He promulgates this entire idea of only lockdowns can save us.

00:23:39.860 Only completely shutting down the world can save us.

00:23:41.880 And the only company that can be allowed to still exist during that time is mine, is Amazon.

00:23:46.340 He makes another $100 billion.

00:23:47.860 I begrudge him that $100 billion.

00:23:49.720 That's not capitalism.

00:23:50.480 I begrudge Fauci saying, you know, maybe, not by this summer, possibly by this summer, but then we'll have to stop again.

00:24:01.160 But definitely by next summer, you will definitely be able to eat in a restaurant for the first time in 2022 and see your loved ones for the first time in two years.

00:24:07.860 And you're like, what are you talking about?

00:24:10.380 Millions of Americans who don't live in New York City, Washington, D.C., San Francisco, and Los Angeles and Chicago have been seeing their family the whole time, have been eating inside at restaurants the whole time.

00:24:20.660 But he's so detached from the people over whom he would rule that he doesn't even know that they don't all live their lives like him.

00:24:27.880 The people telling us that we can't work all have jobs.

00:24:30.440 The people telling us that we can't have police all have private security.

00:24:34.300 This elite mentality, this detachment between the elite and the rest of us.

00:24:40.640 And I shouldn't say the rest of us.

00:24:42.220 We're elite.

00:24:42.620 Well, let me ask a question.

00:24:43.500 We're elite.

00:24:43.800 We're elite.

00:24:43.840 We're elite.

00:24:44.020 We're elite.

00:24:44.800 We're elite and we're being an elite.

00:24:45.560 And we're being an elitist.

00:24:46.140 You know, when this started with this 15 days to slow the spread, you said to me, this is a terrible idea.

00:24:50.860 And I thought, well, 15 days to slow the spread.

00:24:52.300 We don't know what's coming.

00:24:53.160 It kind of makes sense.

00:24:53.960 But it was a terrible idea, not because it was a terrible idea.

00:24:56.520 It was a terrible idea because they're terrible people.

00:24:59.040 They are people who despise the people that they govern.

00:25:02.260 And given the fact that most, I mean.

00:25:04.080 By the way, if they had said 15 days to slow the spread and I had believed for one second that that's what they meant, I would have gone, oh, yeah, let's all stay home.

00:25:10.560 One time the government took powers and then gave them back.

00:25:13.020 That's right. 0.99

00:25:13.440 Come on, don't be ridiculous. 0.99

00:25:14.180 I mean, I was the first one saying, don't do it, don't do it. 0.99

00:25:16.320 And everyone was like, oh, it's going to be fine.

00:25:17.500 It's like common sense.

00:25:18.820 I mean, have we opened a history book?

00:25:20.820 I mean, you don't even have to open a history book.

00:25:22.780 I mean, are we still not operating under the Patriot Act?

00:25:25.180 Remember, that was going to be just temporary.

00:25:26.580 Don't remember, guys, just going to be a temporary thing.

00:25:28.620 Anybody can get on the airplane and things haven't changed in terms of having to have a cavity search.

00:25:33.620 I mean, they never give it back.

00:25:36.220 But I do want to go deeper because you just said, OK, it's ruling over people.

00:25:39.180 But like, is that actually what they're after?

00:25:40.620 Because I have to ask myself, we know where this is going to end. 0.92

00:25:42.620 More black deaths than ever before. 1.00

00:25:44.000 The whole George Floyd, the protests, the riots, it all ends in more black death, right? 0.99

00:25:48.100 The more black people die in the George Floyd protests than, you know, are killed by police officers every year. 0.85

00:25:53.040 Police officers are 18 and a half times more likely to be killed by a black man the other way around. 0.94

00:25:57.320 But let's table that for a second.

00:25:58.680 What is the point of the media doing this?

00:26:01.140 And I'm serious.

00:26:02.060 What is the point of not wanting people to be calm and rational and not riot and loot and kill each other?

00:26:09.040 Like, what is the point?

00:26:10.520 What are they actually after through this?

00:26:12.400 I have to ask myself that question.

00:26:14.100 And I'm not even, you know, trying to posit a conspiracy.

00:26:16.320 I'm actually like, let's be the media right now and say, OK, we want them to.

00:26:19.800 Why?

00:26:20.620 Well, the philosophy that says a good crisis should never go to waste needs a good crisis all the time.

00:26:24.760 They think the weather is a crisis.

00:26:26.280 They think the sun, you know, the sun. 0.98

00:26:27.680 Black people write it. 0.99

00:26:28.000 What does it do? 0.98

00:26:28.540 What does it do?

00:26:29.240 How are they winning with that?

00:26:30.320 It makes people lose their sense, their common sense of the things you just said, that once they take power, they never give it back.

00:26:37.580 How do you get the power?

00:26:38.400 Can I say, I'll say something controversial that I'm sure I shouldn't say. 0.97

00:26:43.420 I actually think it's that to the media elite, black people aren't people. 0.97

00:26:50.980 It all comes down to this.

00:26:53.280 It's this sort of not mirroring, but projecting where everything that they basically say is evil about the right is true about them.

00:27:03.460 They say that we don't see people's fundamental humanity.

00:27:06.380 We do.

00:27:06.940 We see their individual humanity.

00:27:08.820 They actually don't see people's individual humanity.

00:27:12.000 They are a special class of people, real people, and people who are different than them.

00:27:16.800 This is why the coastal elite hate the number one, essentially the number one comorbidity in the country where COVID is concerned is obesity.

00:27:25.140 Obesity, yeah.

00:27:25.920 They hate the obese.

00:27:27.400 So you never hear them saying things like, maybe it would be good if during this time of national crisis we tackled obesity, which is the number one predictor of whether or not you're going to die from COVID-19.

00:27:36.880 They don't not do that because they don't know.

00:27:39.000 They don't do it because they don't care.

00:27:40.580 They dislike fat people with their little snarky remarks about maybe you go home to Olive Garden and support Donald Trump. 1.00

00:27:47.800 They spit this crap out constantly. 1.00

00:27:50.800 And I think it's true, candidly, with how they see non-white Americans. 1.00

00:27:56.920 I think that they think non-white Americans are a group.

00:27:59.980 They're not individuals.

00:28:01.080 They're a thing that exists.

00:28:02.120 That's all of us.

00:28:03.780 It doesn't explain Antifa in Portland.

00:28:05.260 I think what you're saying is right.

00:28:08.000 They lack the concept of human dignity.

00:28:09.880 They don't see us as possessing human dignity.

00:28:12.480 Yeah.

00:28:12.880 And I think that's the problem.

00:28:13.900 I also want to make a point.

00:28:14.440 Well, they see their own dignity.

00:28:16.060 Yeah, that's true.

00:28:16.880 That's true.

00:28:17.480 Just about the police.

00:28:18.240 I think there's a really important point here because, as was mentioned, you know, 40 million interactions.

00:28:21.620 There's 10 million arrests basically every year.

00:28:24.380 A thousand police shootings.

00:28:26.160 A fraction of those, like 14, you know, 14 to 25 are going to be unarmed shootings of a black person. 0.90

00:28:32.340 And then there are going to be a few more that are unarmed shootings of white people.

00:28:34.980 If you even, if you bear down even on that number, which I have done for the year 2019, I actually looked at every single unarmed shooting of a black person. 0.98

00:28:42.360 And what I found is that at least half of them were clearly justified because the black perp was in the process of trying to kill a cop with a car. 1.00

00:28:50.060 That doesn't count as being armed. 0.83

00:28:50.920 But so even when you look at that, it's even most of those shootings are justified.

00:28:54.360 But the unjustified shootings, okay, even the unjustified ones, and there are a few each year, a few.

00:29:00.900 Of course.

00:29:01.320 And none of them that I have seen, at least in recent history, had anything to do with race.

00:29:06.960 When cops make a decision to shoot someone, whether it's justified or not, in almost every case, they're making that decision based on self-preservation.

00:29:15.080 And this other thing, the media lacks an understanding of human nature.

00:29:18.340 Human nature is you want to go home to your family.

00:29:20.960 And so even in the bad shootings, Daniel Shaver in Mesa, Arizona, white man a few years ago.

00:29:27.400 He was shot dead by the police, unarmed, literally on his knees, begging for his life.

00:29:32.240 That's what they said Michael Brown was doing, but he wasn't.

00:29:34.380 This guy, and it's on body cam footage, he's on his knees begging for his life.

00:29:38.580 He's crawling towards him.

00:29:39.620 Crawling towards him. 0.99

00:29:40.600 They shoot him dead.

00:29:41.400 Why do they do it? 0.99

00:29:42.040 Not because everyone there is white.

00:29:43.660 It's not racism.

00:29:44.320 Did those cops just show up looking to kill someone that day?

00:29:47.240 No, they're not serial killers.

00:29:48.180 All of them?

00:29:48.820 I think it's just that they were not willing to take any chance with their own lives. 0.99

00:29:53.880 And they would rather, on the 1% chance or 0.1% chance that this guy posed a threat, they said, I'm just going to shoot him dead. 0.92

00:29:59.320 Yeah, this goes to my point.

00:30:00.620 The police actually are real people.

00:30:04.000 And real people view others as individuals.

00:30:06.780 And so they enter all of these situations making actual, real world, individual assessments of what is happening right in front of them.

00:30:14.740 The media doesn't do that.

00:30:16.560 Right.

00:30:16.880 They see themselves as individuals.

00:30:18.240 They see themselves as fully formed.

00:30:20.240 And everyone else is a two-dimensional.

00:30:21.900 Well, this is right.

00:30:22.640 But I think that that goes to the even broader question that Candace is asking, which is why are they like that?

00:30:26.360 And I think the answer is they're utopian.

00:30:27.980 If you talk to journalists about what they think they're doing in the world, they say things like, it's our job to speak, to take power from the powerful and give power to the powerless.

00:30:38.000 We have to give a voice to the voiceless.

00:30:39.580 We have to reestablish justice in the universe.

00:30:41.460 I mean, they sound like they're reading a bad Superman comic, right?

00:30:44.180 I mean, everything they think they are doing, we have to speak truth to power.

00:30:48.300 We are the voice of the oppressed.

00:30:50.460 We have to establish justice.

00:30:51.680 These are not things that journalists were traditionally tasked with doing.

00:30:54.800 Usually we thought that a journalist was the guy with, like, a battered hat with maybe a high school degree whose job it was just to report on what was going on.

00:31:00.980 But now there's this kind of highfalutin idea that they are the drivers of grand social change in the United States.

00:31:05.940 You don't believe it's more nefarious than that because they know they're lying, right?

00:31:08.380 By omitting the truth, you're telling them why.

00:31:10.020 No, I'm saying that I know that they're lying, and I think they know they're lying.

00:31:13.820 But I think that when you're so blinded by your own utopian vision, everything around you becomes either a tool or an obstacle.

00:31:21.160 And everything for these folks is a tool or an obstacle.

00:31:23.440 And the thing is, once people are reduced to being tools, instruments of your will, once that happens, only single-factor analysis applies to those people.

00:31:32.120 See, in our own lives, this is why you see the hypocrisy of Gretchen Whitmer, who understands all of the intricate factors that lead to the fact that she needs to go to Florida and visit her sick father.

00:31:45.040 Okay, all of us have a sick relative that we've wanted to visit.

00:31:47.440 And so as just a human being, I don't begrudge her visiting Florida.

00:31:49.900 I begrudge that she's telling everybody else they can visit Florida, visit their sick parents.

00:31:52.680 So for people who are utopian, just to sort of finish the point, for people who are utopian, the idea is that they get to look at the multi-factor analysis that goes into being a fully-rounded human being.

00:32:02.640 But because they are reaching for a utopia, and because people are complex, and because that complexity is an obstacle to their utopian vision, they have to reduce everybody down to two-dimensional widgets.

00:32:11.780 And that means that any data point can be reduced down to these two-dimensional versions of reality that, in some cases, are just flatly false and then crammed into the narrative.

00:32:20.180 And that's what you see in cases like the Chauvin case.

00:32:22.020 How did this become a proxy?

00:32:23.940 Forget about the actual activity here.

00:32:25.780 How in the world did this become a proxy for race in America?

00:32:28.520 Right.

00:32:28.600 There is zero evidence.

00:32:29.660 America is on trial.

00:32:30.780 Right.

00:32:31.060 They kept saying, America is on trial.

00:32:32.660 What happens in this trial is going to say everything about where America is on race.

00:32:37.340 There is not one shred of evidence.

00:32:38.900 There is no allegation.

00:32:40.020 There is nothing that says this had to do with race.

00:32:42.220 Nothing.

00:32:42.720 They couldn't come up with a single...

00:32:43.320 Even if it was murder.

00:32:44.340 Even if it was murder.

00:32:45.080 Even if it was first-degree murder.

00:32:46.460 There is no evidence, which was not even alleged. 1.00

00:32:48.740 There was no evidence whatsoever that Chauvin said, oh, a black guy, that's why I'm going to kill him today. 1.00

00:32:53.220 But the strange thing to me, the huge disparity that always strikes me is the disdain they have for ordinary people on the one hand and how stupid they are on the other. 1.00

00:33:03.280 I mean, and I mean that, I don't mean that just as an insult. 1.00

00:33:05.620 I mean it literally.

00:33:06.420 If you took the combined IQ of Chris Cuomo and Brian Stelter and Don Lemon, you could roll it on a pair of dice, you know.

00:33:13.780 But, yeah, I mean, no matter what you think of Ben's opinion, Ben has more information in this, like, white part of his fingernail than these guys have in their entire heads.

00:33:21.900 And yet, they feel justified in lying to the people that they're supposed to report to because they think they have to guide you to where you have to go.

00:33:31.520 Where on earth did that entitlement come from?

00:33:33.920 What moment did they look in the mirror?

00:33:35.380 Because they know utopia better than you.

00:33:36.700 They know utopia better than you.

00:33:37.660 They know their fantasies better than you.

00:33:38.780 And so if they know what the vision is, if they're the prophets, the prophets don't have to present facts.

00:33:43.360 The prophets just present the ultimate vision.

00:33:45.820 And then it's your job to listen to them because otherwise you're not listening to the prophet.

00:33:48.880 You don't know what's good for you.

00:33:50.460 You don't, and which unifies this whole conversation, right?

00:33:53.080 If you thought that, you would at least, you know, have an IQ of, I don't know.

00:33:56.140 But it doesn't make sense because you can say that they believe in utopian vision.

00:33:59.260 But when they step outside and they look around and you see New York the way it looks and Minnesota the way it looks and you see Los Angeles the way it looks because people are rioting and looting.

00:34:07.520 I mean, people are leaving the state, right?

00:34:10.280 Why would they want to live in that environment?

00:34:12.640 Because, of course, this is not going to stop.

00:34:13.780 Right now it might be contained into the inner cities, but they're going to eventually start rioting and looting the suburbs when things happen, right?

00:34:19.860 Because you can't, like, look, case with Antifa.

00:34:21.840 They couldn't contain it.

00:34:23.120 They were so supportive of Antifa for years, Democrats.

00:34:25.620 Oh, they're the anti-fascists.

00:34:27.640 There's that whole story in Minneapolis, right?

00:34:28.460 It's an idea, Joe Biden said.

00:34:29.860 It's an idea.

00:34:30.900 They are burning down Portland every single night.

00:34:34.520 What they are doing is incredible because the Democrats won't acknowledge that these people are not an idea.

00:34:38.540 This is thuggery in America.

00:34:40.080 These are actual domestic terrorists that you're looking for.

00:34:43.000 They're on the ground in Portland every single night.

00:34:45.380 Their last words will be, but I'm one of the good ones.

00:34:49.000 Yeah.

00:34:49.200 Right.

00:34:49.420 But that's right.

00:34:51.620 I mean, because when you think about, okay, so simultaneously while this is happening today, Maxine Waters, the House Republicans tried to push a central vote on Maxine.

00:34:58.440 And the announcement, the verdict was coming out, happened in the middle of that central vote.

00:35:03.480 Every single Democrat voted in favor of tabling the central vote.

00:35:07.180 Of course.

00:35:07.340 Every single one, right?

00:35:08.140 Not a single Democrat broke ranks and said, you know, maybe we should say something about the fact that this lady who's been incentivizing rioters since she was in Congress. 1.00

00:35:15.420 I mean, going all the way back to 92, she was calling.

00:35:17.220 I mean, I was living there.

00:35:18.220 I was eight.

00:35:18.780 And I remember Maxine Waters on the TV saying that the L.A. riots were the L.A. uprising, right?

00:35:23.160 Like, she's been doing this her entire career.

00:35:24.620 So this is nothing new for Maxine Waters, who's the most corrupt member of Congress, bar none. 0.99

00:35:28.240 There really are no close competitors. 0.98

00:35:30.580 The unwillingness of a single Democrat to condemn her, again, it goes back to the utopian, because when there are Republicans that Republicans don't like, usually we look at them and we say, that guy's ideas really suck. 0.97

00:35:41.120 Right?

00:35:41.240 Like, if there's a Republican and we look at him and he says something that's bad or he does something, we're like, we don't want to be anywhere near this person. 0.72

00:35:46.880 This person's like yucky.

00:35:48.240 Roy Moore in Alabama.

00:35:49.880 You got a Democratic senator from Alabama because Republicans in Alabama said, we don't want to be anywhere near this guy.

00:35:55.100 We don't like what he's saying.

00:35:55.840 We don't like what he's doing.

00:35:57.340 And for Democrats, they have yet to meet a Democrat so radical that the person is bad.

00:36:01.980 In fact, sometimes they're the best of them.

00:36:04.180 In fact, the more pure they are, this is why the AOCs and the Ohana Mars and the Maxine Waters are actually aspirational figures.

00:36:12.020 Because it's just that we, you know, the mature members of the Democratic Party, we know that you kind of have to be Machiavellian and play some politics about this sort of stuff.

00:36:19.120 But they're so innocent and so wonderful and so joyous that we just have to, you know, at least give them props for their ideological purity.

00:36:25.740 So here from Speaker Pelosi herself, speaking in front of the Capitol at a Congressional Black Caucus presser, thank you, George Floyd, for sacrificing your life for justice.

00:36:37.000 Because of you and because of thousands, millions of people around the world who came out for justice, your name will always be synonymous for justice.

00:36:45.320 Oh, wow.

00:36:45.500 That's a religious cult.

00:36:47.640 I was going to say that she then said, give us the right.

00:36:49.840 This is literal. 0.98

00:36:50.740 Drug addict. 0.77

00:36:51.680 Okay, he was a drug addict. 1.00

00:36:52.860 He abused women. 1.00

00:36:53.900 He abused men. 1.00

00:36:54.820 You know, this is disgusting. 0.98

00:36:56.940 It actually grosses me out. 0.98

00:36:59.220 Do we have no better examples to put forward in the black community when you think of the word justice?

00:37:04.200 You think of George Floyd?

00:37:05.700 I mean, how far we have fallen since Martin Luther King.

00:37:08.660 It honestly makes me sick.

00:37:10.120 It makes me sick.

00:37:10.740 It's so upsetting to me as a black person to see what is coming out as representative of the black community, what we are told we should be holding up.

00:37:18.980 Do you think those words would be written when Clarence Thomas dies?

00:37:21.600 Do you think those words would be written when Thomas Sowell dies?

00:37:24.020 Do you think those words would be written when Dr. Condoleezza Rice dies?

00:37:26.660 That's why I asked the question why.

00:37:28.520 It's almost like they are trying to intentionally pivot the attention of black Americans into celebrating degeneracy at every turn. 1.00

00:37:35.560 Right? 0.99

00:37:36.000 They think of black people.

00:37:37.960 Whether it's culture.

00:37:38.520 Yes.

00:37:38.780 Whether it's culture.

00:37:39.660 This is who we're going to name woman of the year.

00:37:41.880 Right?

00:37:42.120 Cardi B.

00:37:42.760 Cardi B.

00:37:43.400 Whether it's talking about, you know, civil justice.

00:37:46.120 George Floyd is now the emblematic of civil justice.

00:37:48.720 He's so brave.

00:37:49.800 What he sacrificed his life. 0.98

00:37:51.180 I mean, there is something very sinister and very disgusting happening right now in this country in terms of how they are trying to pollute black minds. 1.00

00:37:59.140 And it goes all the way from the education system and critical race theory to these disgusting words. 0.99

00:38:03.880 And I will call them disgusting because they are and they are false. 0.55

00:38:06.740 George Floyd died. 0.99

00:38:07.620 He was a drug addict.

00:38:09.300 Period.

00:38:09.980 Whether you have an opinion about whether Jarek Chauvin, you know, should have spent some time in prison.

00:38:13.840 Yes or no.

00:38:14.500 We should all agree that this man is not emblematic of justice.

00:38:18.300 Right.

00:38:19.180 I mean, it infuriates me.

00:38:20.600 And aside from being a drug addict, I mean, that's important.

00:38:23.800 I think that's why he died.

00:38:25.120 But this was a man.

00:38:27.180 There's no indication.

00:38:28.540 This was a man who preyed on his own community.

00:38:31.740 And, you know, forcing your way into a woman's home and robbing her at gunpoint in front of her child.

00:38:36.220 That's not some small mistake.

00:38:38.160 It's also not something he did when he was 16.

00:38:39.580 He said it twice.

00:38:40.220 Armed robbery was twice.

00:38:41.000 Yeah, this is really depraved evil that this person was capable of.

00:38:45.100 And what you're seeing there is it really is the anti-racism stuff takes on the shape of a religious cult because you have your literal savior figure who sacrificed himself, talking about him like he's a Christ figure, really, literally.

00:38:57.480 Sacrificed his life.

00:39:00.560 The thing about Jesus is that I may not be a New Testament scholar, but it seems to me that Jesus, in your guise's version of this, wanted to be sacrificed, right?

00:39:11.260 I mean, like, at the very least.

00:39:12.320 No one takes my life from me.

00:39:13.580 I lay it down, he said.

00:39:14.620 Yeah, I mean, if you're supposed to be the son of God, you pretty much don't have to do that.

00:39:18.780 Right. 0.92

00:39:19.220 So to equate those two things, of course, is silliness on his face. 0.63

00:39:22.980 Also, they will name streets after him.

00:39:24.000 Wait for it.

00:39:24.600 They will name streets after George Floyd.

00:39:25.980 To your point, I actually think that the left is about to turn on Martin Luther King Jr.

00:39:31.780 I do, too.

00:39:32.660 Of course.

00:39:33.000 I think he's toast.

00:39:34.360 Yep.

00:39:34.800 I think another important part of the religious cult aspect of the anti-racism thing is you have your Christ figure, which is important, but you also have the concept of inherited guilt.

00:39:43.320 And this is taking on, it's very similar to the Christian idea of original sin.

00:39:48.940 But now, in this case, it's a racial.

00:39:51.920 And so, as white people, we all have this inherited guilt of racism and slavery because, of course, white people are the only people that ever did this in history, according to the left, anyway.

00:40:00.980 And so we need to atone for that sin through, you know, making pilgrimages now to the Holy Land, the Holy Spot where George Floyd was killed.

00:40:10.700 It really is religious, and this is what happens.

00:40:13.020 All utopian ideologies mirror Christianity, right? 0.99

00:40:18.120 So they all have a concept of original sin.

00:40:20.440 That's actually the fundamental thing that unites all utopian ideologies, including, by the way, say libertarianism, which posits that the original sin is government force coercion.

00:40:32.220 You have communism, which posits that the original sin is class.

00:40:37.140 You have this new anti-racist cult that's forming that posits that the original sin is some sort of systemic racism.

00:40:46.480 They all acknowledge that there's something wrong with man.

00:40:49.180 They disagree about what the something wrong with man is, but they all believe that there is some sort of sin that has to be flushed out by their new clergy that they're creating and with their new liturgy that they're creating, with their new penance practices that they're creating.

00:41:06.080 And by that mechanism, we might be redeemed into their utopia.

00:41:09.020 And, of course, what we on the right believe is that we agree that there's an original sin, original sin, and we don't believe that it can be purged.

00:41:19.960 This is the fundamental distinction between right and left.

00:41:23.060 Whether you're Jewish, whether you're Christian, we believe there's an original sin, and you can't unmake it. 1.00

00:41:29.340 And we all share it, because those utopias that you point out, those are their original sins.

00:41:33.660 And the other thing is that it's a certain segment of the population that carries it, and they're the villains, whereas in the theological idea of original sin, it's the whole human race.

00:41:45.420 It's all of us.

00:41:45.940 And we're trying to figure out what to do with it, not what to do about it.

00:41:50.560 There's something that I was thinking about earlier, sort of back to something you were saying, Candace, about the perversion and the attempt to build up certain people as heroes who clearly are not heroes.

00:42:00.300 And, again, it's amazing that you got so much flack for saying this while not even talking about what Derek Chauvin did, whether it was right or wrong, because two things can be true at once.

00:42:10.220 You can believe that Derek Chauvin should go to jail, and you can also believe—

00:42:12.360 I said that three times.

00:42:12.940 I know.

00:42:13.420 I know you did.

00:42:13.980 He should have acted differently.

00:42:15.340 I know you did.

00:42:16.380 But for the left, you know, Condoleezza Rice used the phrase, the soft bigotry of low expectations, to talk about how the left treats black Americans, with the idea being that you don't have to perform as well on the SATs.

00:42:27.600 That's fine. 0.95

00:42:28.060 And, you know, we can't expect that of you, because, of course, you're black, right, which is the soft bigotry of low expectations. 0.98

00:42:32.060 So I tweeted that the other day about the mentality that surrounds rioting and looting, that we have now reached a point in the United States where whenever there is an incident that involves a white cop and a black suspect, we expect, we full-on expect there to be rioting and looting. 0.97

00:42:46.580 It's not as though we say, oh, God, I hope there's not rioting and looting.

00:42:49.460 We start boarding up our windows.

00:42:50.820 We start making our plans to leave town if we can.

00:42:53.440 We start canceling school in Minneapolis.

00:42:55.340 We cancel NBA games preemptively.

00:42:56.780 Like, we know it's going to happen, and we accept it as norm, right?

00:42:59.660 We accept it as, like, this is how it's just going to be.

00:43:01.280 Like, of course there were National Guard troops that were on the roof of the courthouse while the verdict was being read.

00:43:06.580 Of course the D.C. helicopters, the PD is up there in the helicopters in advance of this.

00:43:10.980 I mean, like, that's just normal.

00:43:12.320 That's the way that it works.

00:43:13.220 So I tweeted out this is the soft bigotry of low expectations.

00:43:15.820 And I believe that it was Jason Whitlock tweeted back, no, stop calling it soft bigotry.

00:43:20.840 That's not soft bigotry.

00:43:21.740 That's just bigotry.

00:43:22.580 And it is.

00:43:23.540 It's not the soft bigotry of low expectations.

00:43:25.340 It's the pure bigotry of no expectations.

00:43:27.320 Because there's a belief that there is, you are expected, human behavior is not expected because our system is so grave and so horrible that we've perverted it.

00:43:35.280 And so there's no point in even trying, which is the worst message you could possibly give to anybody.

00:43:39.180 It treats them as non-human.

00:43:41.980 It treats them as incapable of agency, of making good decisions.

00:43:44.860 And when the media promulgate this lie that if you're black in America, you are at existential risk and that you being black in America is a wearying prospect where you're constantly weary, where you're constantly tired, where you're Jonathan Capehart writing for The Washington Post for hundreds of thousands of dollars and appearing on MSNBC every day.

00:43:59.500 But you're exhausted by the prospect of being black in America. 1.00

00:44:03.980 That sort of mythos that's built up relieves the possibility.

00:44:08.200 Forget individual responsibility, which it clearly relieves.

00:44:10.260 It relieves the possibility of you being able to live your own life in a productive and meaningful way.

00:44:15.660 The thing is, I want to be careful how I say this because it's controversial.

00:44:19.800 But I, I met years ago with a very prominent black political figure and I sat down in his office and he said to me, you know, you're going to get to the point where you're going to, you're going to lose hope.

00:44:32.380 You're going to lose faith in the black community. 1.00

00:44:33.940 You're just going to be tired of it. 0.99

00:44:35.140 Right.

00:44:36.020 I can feel myself now going from genuinely wanting black America to wake up to wondering if we ever are.

00:44:44.600 You know what I mean?

00:44:45.080 Like, it's like we can sit here and I can feel bad.

00:44:48.120 Oh, it's not fair.

00:44:48.860 You know, the education system is doing this.

00:44:51.240 The media is lying to black America. 0.91

00:44:52.860 But when you look out and you see this kind of stuff.

00:44:55.020 Right.

00:44:55.320 It's like I'm tired of the handholding now.

00:44:57.340 Right.

00:44:57.440 I'm almost getting tired of the handholding where it's like, you know, it's it's not difficult to try to pursue the truth.

00:45:03.040 Right.

00:45:03.260 It's not that difficult to try to pursue the truth.

00:45:05.260 These people are clearly not our friends.

00:45:07.060 Right.

00:45:07.360 They obviously don't have high opinions.

00:45:08.840 But here's the thing.

00:45:09.740 They're setting lower and lower expectations.

00:45:11.480 But we keep meeting these lower and lower expectations.

00:45:14.080 You know what I mean?

00:45:14.700 When you look at the statistics in black America, what are we, 13 percent of the population and we account for over 50 percent of all of the violent crimes.

00:45:23.340 These are problems that are never going to get addressed.

00:45:25.760 Our communities are going to be, you know, further the black communities that live in the projects. 0.98

00:45:30.480 Those are about to get a lot worse.

00:45:32.080 And the only key to all of this is education.

00:45:34.940 It might be the only way this gets fixed is education.

00:45:37.080 But instead of saying educate our kids, you have black Americans that are at the forefront saying, you know what, we shouldn't even have standardized tests. 1.00

00:45:44.260 Standardized tests are racist.

00:45:45.900 And parenting, not education and also parenting.

00:45:48.220 We have to fix it.

00:45:49.180 It's like we have to stop feeling bad.

00:45:50.560 Like black America has to fix black America. 1.00

00:45:52.640 It may be presumptuous, but I'm actually I'm 10 years older than you.

00:45:56.820 And in that short amount of time, the country really changed.

00:46:00.860 I experienced a different upbringing in some ways than you did.

00:46:04.820 I don't think that the black community has a responsibility to better itself. 1.00

00:46:10.460 I believe that all individuals have a responsibility to better themselves and that we as religious communities, which is a community you select into, or as regional communities like actual towns.

00:46:24.620 That's a community that we have opted into geographically or our national community that we have an obligation to help one another as individuals step up.

00:46:33.880 And I actually think this, the idea that the left talks a certain way to the black community, that's how they see the world.

00:46:42.840 And we shouldn't grant them that premise.

00:46:45.560 They reduce us all down into these communities that we didn't opt into, these communities that are the result of some gene.

00:46:54.020 Immutable characteristics.

00:46:54.880 Yeah, exactly.

00:46:55.960 Immutable characteristics.

00:46:57.200 And they want us to identify by that.

00:46:59.180 You shouldn't look at the so-called black community and get weary because you shouldn't associate yourself with a community that you didn't opt yourself into.

00:47:06.980 You're right.

00:47:07.420 What we should do is go find individuals in black American individuals, white American individuals, Hispanic American individuals.

00:47:15.360 Those are the people we should build community with by opting into community with them, and we should help one another make ourselves better.

00:47:24.040 And we make ourselves better fundamentally by realizing that sin isn't something that's being visited upon us.

00:47:30.560 Sin is something that is in us and that we carry around and that we have to, by religious mechanisms, by ethical mechanisms, by moral mechanisms, that we have to rise above.

00:47:40.580 I think the entire idea that we are the color of our skin, the entire idea that we are any other immutable characteristic, and the entire idea that we are the product of forces external to us that are impacting us, those are the two worst lies ever told in human history.

00:47:58.260 And I grew up in the history of this country where we had essentially transcended the problem of race in America.

00:48:08.200 It doesn't mean there were no individual racists.

00:48:10.180 There were, of course.

00:48:10.960 There always will be.

00:48:11.940 We had transcended the problem of sort of national racism being at the fore, racism being baked into the cake, racism at that time.

00:48:21.300 It's why there was a national celebration when Obama was elected.

00:48:23.520 That's right.

00:48:24.040 It is.

00:48:24.500 I mean, because that was the attitude. 0.67

00:48:26.100 I opposed Obama, but I understood at least the sentiment where Americans said to each other, guys, I mean, like, a racist country doesn't elect a black president.

00:48:34.180 That's not what racist countries do. 0.50

00:48:36.140 But we are a racist country now, post-Obama.

00:48:38.520 It was a non-racist country that ascended Obama to the presidency.

00:48:41.680 We are today a racist country because even we, in some ways, have adopted the fundamental premises of the left.

00:48:49.640 I agree.

00:48:50.820 Not racist.

00:48:51.780 Yeah.

00:48:52.160 Not a racist country.

00:48:53.080 A racially defined country.

00:48:56.280 That's correct.

00:48:56.900 One thing you discount, too, though, when you talk about the people is really just how bad our governing classes are.

00:49:03.940 When you have a, you know, when we lost, for instance, local newspapers, now we have information controlled by the powerful.

00:49:11.640 So we have the powerful doing bad things and lying about them.

00:49:14.560 And then we have the powerful reporting on those things and lying about them.

00:49:18.540 The people, you know, people talk about the madness of crowds, but I don't think crowds actually are mad because it's madness to think that you're being lied to every minute.

00:49:26.560 You have to be insane to think you're being lied to every minute, even if you are.

00:49:30.040 And I think people are being lied to every single minute.

00:49:32.660 And the crowds believe them.

00:49:33.960 It's, you know, what are they supposed to make?

00:49:36.200 What is the average person, especially a poor person, especially somebody who doesn't have the kind of access to education and information that other people might have?

00:49:42.760 And the access they have is polluted.

00:49:44.560 What's he to make of it when they keep telling you what is a racist country?

00:49:47.760 The establishment media, Delenda asked, it's got to go.

00:49:51.200 It's got to go.

00:49:52.580 It's all it.

00:49:53.360 That's why there's something much more nefarious happening.

00:49:56.000 This isn't just because they want to live in a utopia, right?

00:49:58.800 They're intentionally dumbing people down, intentionally inciting violence, right?

00:50:03.820 They know they're not telling the full story.

00:50:05.440 They know they're not telling the truth.

00:50:06.680 They want these people to go out and ruin their own neighborhoods.

00:50:09.640 I mean, this is six stuff that we're talking about.

00:50:11.640 And to your point, you're correct.

00:50:12.600 I said this when people kept saying to me, George Floyd, I mean, you don't see yourself.

00:50:16.940 Why would I see myself in George Floyd?

00:50:18.500 Why the hell would I see myself in George Floyd?

00:50:21.000 I have more in common with a little Asian girl that goes home from school and does her homework at eight years old than I have in common with George Floyd.

00:50:27.300 I don't see anything close to myself because we have similar melanin.

00:50:31.040 I'm supposed to go, oh, you know what?

00:50:32.160 George Floyd, yeah, he's my people.

00:50:33.460 He's my people.

00:50:34.540 We had to bear down, I think, on we're talking about the media.

00:50:37.360 We're talking about governing classes.

00:50:38.300 The issue of the family is not something we can we can skim over.

00:50:41.880 You look at you look in the in the black community, especially in the in the city.

00:50:45.160 We all know the statistics.

00:50:46.220 Seventy percent homeless.

00:50:47.280 I mean, 70, 70 percent fatherless rate.

00:50:49.440 Now, that's we could just say that figure like it's just a figure.

00:50:53.180 But that is apocalyptic.

00:50:55.020 And if you want to know what a post nuclear family civilization looks like, it looks like the inner city, it looks like Chicago, it looks like Baltimore. 0.69

00:51:01.680 That's what it looks like.

00:51:02.800 And when you don't have a family, I mean, look at these kids going back to the 13 year old kid.

00:51:06.440 Tragic case was shot by the cop, even though that was a justified shooting.

00:51:09.600 That's a 13 year old child at 3 a.m. on a school night out with a loaded gun shooting at cars.

00:51:15.200 The look, the cops have been missing for two days.

00:51:17.300 Yeah, missing for two days.

00:51:18.480 The mother had not reported the most recent the most recent time he went missing.

00:51:21.500 The mother didn't bother reporting it. 0.99

00:51:22.600 Now, the cops are custodians.

00:51:25.060 They're janitors that are called in to clean up the mess that that is there in these communities.

00:51:31.200 It's not their fault.

00:51:32.300 The mess is there.

00:51:33.140 The fault has to go back for that particular case.

00:51:36.320 Where's the father?

00:51:37.160 You know, we heard the mother come out and talk about what a what a wonderful child her son was.

00:51:41.360 And I don't blame mothers for saying that.

00:51:43.320 What mother wouldn't.

00:51:44.600 But we didn't hear anything from the father.

00:51:45.940 You know, and that's and that's another really common thread that we see in all these cases.

00:51:49.200 So if if kids don't have they're not being raised at home, especially as as as boys, if they don't have a male role model in the home showing them how to take all that masculine energy and aggression and all that.

00:52:03.140 Oh, it's good stuff for boys to have.

00:52:05.100 But a father has to be there to show you if that's how you channel it.

00:52:09.520 This is how you harness it.

00:52:10.540 We don't want to suppress it.

00:52:11.760 That's what the school system wants.

00:52:12.900 That's also government and media.

00:52:14.340 So you're saying that is government media.

00:52:16.040 That's government policy.

00:52:17.080 That's Lyndon Baines Johnson.

00:52:18.080 That's their left.

00:52:19.020 They're left susceptible.

00:52:20.340 Right.

00:52:20.680 And then that's the media perpetuating an idea that we should look towards women who have men cheating on them, have multiple baby daddies are now are now being called.

00:52:28.540 You know, these are the women that you should be hailing as heroes because they're feminists. 1.00

00:52:31.640 So it's it's it's also convoluted now.

00:52:33.980 You can't even just say, you know, the the the idea that, you know, 74 percent.

00:52:39.040 I think it's 74 percent.

00:52:39.980 I think it's actually 78 percent.

00:52:41.320 74 percent of black children are growing up without a father in a home.

00:52:43.480 Well, that only happened because of government and media.

00:52:45.860 Right.

00:52:46.180 It's a joint effort.

00:52:46.900 And it is it is largely, you know, our governing class that is that is pushing this stuff because none of them abide by these rules.

00:52:52.780 They all grew up in two family homes.

00:52:54.580 Kamala Harris grew up in a two family, a two parent family. 0.54

00:52:57.300 Joe Biden grew up in a two parent family.

00:52:58.720 Right.

00:52:58.840 Like they all they all abide by.

00:53:00.760 This is Charles Murray's point in in coming apart.

00:53:03.600 Right.

00:53:03.800 Where he talks only about the white community.

00:53:05.040 He said that all the people who are in sort of the elite ruling class abide by all the traditional rules of success.

00:53:09.700 And then they preach to everybody else about how none of those traditional rules for success apply.

00:53:13.320 But I mean, I'm looking at the screen right now and I'm seeing that Joe Biden and Kamala Harris are going to deliver an address on the Chauvin verdict.

00:53:19.920 How in the it's an individual criminal justice case.

00:53:23.640 How in the world is the White House holding speeches on the basis of that as though this is indicative in any way, either way that it would have gone on on everybody in America, on the state of America more broadly.

00:53:34.700 It's an individual case with individual circumstances in which, frankly, I think the jury did not look at the facts, particularly in the murder charges.

00:53:41.260 And they're giving addresses from the White House about all of this because it is indeed about power.

00:53:45.880 The left always says that that everything is about power.

00:53:47.920 But for the left, the reason they say that is because it is about power.

00:53:50.540 It is always about power.

00:53:51.660 Remember the Kermit Gosnell case, the Kermit Gosnell case, which was which was actually a case that should have had national implications because you had the local crime story.

00:53:59.620 Yeah, the most the most prolific mass murder in history was Kermit Gosnell and the media ignored it completely.

00:54:05.460 And the reason they gave was it's a local crime story.

00:54:07.680 That actually was not a local crime story because of because of how it implicated government and all these other things.

00:54:12.540 This really is a local crime.

00:54:14.200 No, but I don't think that's fair, Matt.

00:54:16.240 I think it actually makes perfect sense that Kamala Harris and Joe Biden, for that matter, are going to address this case because they played a very active role in the case.

00:54:24.600 Kamala Harris bailed the rioters, the George Floyd rioters out of prison.

00:54:28.040 Joe Biden put his finger on the on the scales of justice.

00:54:32.220 I mean, there is, first of all, no way to suggest that that that the jury somehow was not aware of this.

00:54:38.760 There's something that's that's going on that I've been thinking a lot about.

00:54:41.680 And I have a book coming out in a couple of months where I really go into this in depth.

00:54:45.200 Why is all of this happening now?

00:54:47.080 Why?

00:54:47.480 I mean, we were at the apex of race relations in this country circa about 2008, 2009.

00:54:51.860 Like race.

00:54:52.240 You look at the polls, right?

00:54:53.200 The polls, most Americans of all races were were very optimistic about the future of race relations in the country.

00:54:59.180 And then Barack Obama gets elected and then things start to reverse and they start to reverse, I think, in large measure because Barack Obama created and he participated in an active political genius.

00:55:10.960 It was political alchemy.

00:55:12.300 But it also happened to kind of wreck the country.

00:55:14.800 And that was that before, if you look at this is not the first time we've dealt with critical race theory and anti-racist theory and all this.

00:55:20.940 This stuff came up in the 60s and 70s, right?

00:55:23.120 And by 68, Stokely Carmichael was talking about institutional racism.

00:55:26.540 By the 70s, Richard Delgado was talking about critical race theory.

00:55:29.240 So all of these theories were quite prominent in the late 60s, 70s.

00:55:33.120 By the 1980s, they were basically dead, right?

00:55:34.940 No one was talking about them because they'd been tried and they completely failed.

00:55:37.560 They destroyed the country and the country repudiated them with Reagan and then they were further repudiated by Bill Clinton, right?

00:55:42.820 You remember that it was Joe Biden who was pushing the crime bill in 1994.

00:55:45.580 It was Bill Clinton who was having a sister soldier moment in 1992, rejecting a lot of this stuff, right?

00:55:50.600 So what happened is that the governing class among Democrats, they were making the argument, we can cure all of your problems with the government.

00:55:55.880 And a lot of the people who are critical race theorists were saying, yes, but the government is the problem.

00:55:59.720 So there's a fundamental conflict there, right?

00:56:01.160 The governing class, which is the Democrats, are saying we can fix your problems.

00:56:03.540 The critical race theorists are saying, yes, but all the systems are racist.

00:56:06.100 You can't fix our problems.

00:56:07.040 Barack Obama enters office and what he basically says is, I am in my person, the revolution from the inside, right?

00:56:13.760 I am, yes, the system is the problem and the system is, I'm not going to solve it via the system.

00:56:20.340 I am the system.

00:56:21.560 If you attack my policies, you are attacking me on the basis of race.

00:56:24.300 And not only that, I'm going to activate a new racially based coalition that is going to be the new minority majority in the United States.

00:56:29.920 I mean, they've openly talked about this.

00:56:31.380 This is not a conspiracy theory in any way.

00:56:33.120 Barack Obama and the Democratic Party openly talked about how there was an ascendant coalition of the disaffected in the United States that was eventually going to take complete control of American politics.

00:56:43.200 And there are articles in The Atlantic about this.

00:56:45.420 Ronald Brownstein wrote a lot about this.

00:56:47.060 And this was the idea of the future.

00:56:48.380 This is why they were so angry when Trump won in 2016 because they thought they were going to win from here on out, right?

00:56:52.120 They had a permanent coalition of people who were willing to overthrow the system by using the system.

00:56:56.440 And that's what you're seeing right now.

00:56:57.620 You're seeing people who are using an ideology that is fundamentally incompatible with the systems of the United States.

00:57:04.080 That's true.

00:57:04.640 And they are using that ideology in government in order to maximize the power of government and rewrite the nature of government.

00:57:10.580 That is it.

00:57:11.280 Maximizing the power of government.

00:57:12.420 That's what I see.

00:57:13.020 And I see all of the traces.

00:57:14.040 And speaking of where this idea came up, systemic racism, institutional racism, it's a Marxist ideology.

00:57:18.680 It actually came to black America in the mid-1960s when black America started changing their names and saying,

00:57:24.280 I'm going to take my slave name.

00:57:25.400 And all of these things came from literal Marxist ideology came.

00:57:29.800 It was actually, Shelby Steele writes about it in his book, White Guilt, to your credit,

00:57:32.780 talking about this whole idea that racism is actually everywhere.

00:57:35.720 It actually can never be fixed.

00:57:37.040 It's going to be everywhere.

00:57:38.260 The idea is to just cripple America because it allows, once the America becomes so focused on race,

00:57:43.620 obsessed with race, it allows the government, the Kamala Harris and the Joe Biden to do whatever they want.

00:57:48.000 Think about the sweeping reform that they've passed, critical race theory, all of these things, 1.00

00:57:52.320 which basically guarantees to them that they are going to have kids that are dumber and dumber, 0.99

00:57:56.680 that are, by the way, getting more degrees than ever before. 1.00

00:57:58.400 We actually have the dumbest kids that have ever graduated. 0.99

00:58:00.540 I'm not saying that as a joke. 1.00

00:58:01.800 Standardized tests reveal these are the dumbest kids that have ever graduated, 0.98

00:58:05.580 and yet we are giving out more degrees than we've ever given out. 1.00

00:58:07.920 They're not getting smarter. 0.99

00:58:08.620 Dumbest, but most educated. 1.00

00:58:09.220 Yeah. 1.00

00:58:09.560 Yeah, dumbest, but most educated. 1.00

00:58:11.560 So what is the point of handing out these meaningless degrees? 1.00

00:58:13.780 Well, because you just want these kids to feel good.

00:58:15.260 They want them to feel like they know so much.

00:58:17.420 That they're convinced that they are so woke, you know, the woke-topia.

00:58:20.720 They know everything.

00:58:21.440 I have six degrees in Latinx studies, right?

00:58:24.320 I have a degree in Latinx studies.

00:58:26.060 I've got a degree in gender studies.

00:58:27.540 I can't get a job.

00:58:28.660 But that's a real reaction.

00:58:29.100 Weird that I can't get a job.

00:58:30.080 So now I'm an angry activist.

00:58:31.580 I'm an angry activist, and the government is going to tell you what you should be angry at.

00:58:35.000 Some idea, some Marxist idea, like cultural, you know, like racism is everywhere, institutional racism. 0.99

00:58:40.760 And then they become the perfect, permanent government activist that can go out and write every day because they don't have a goddamn job. 1.00

00:58:46.900 But that is the point, is that it actually, we say that the gender studies degree, it doesn't matter. 0.96

00:58:51.900 It doesn't connote any meaning.

00:58:53.720 It does.

00:58:54.440 It is a real credential that you are now approved by the regime, by the liberal establishment.

00:59:00.040 You are part of this new.

00:59:01.340 You're part of the clergy.

00:59:02.140 You're part of the clergy.

00:59:03.020 You're part of the state church of progressivism.

00:59:04.760 You speak the vocabulary, right?

00:59:06.380 And the way that you know, by the way, that people speak the vocabulary is now we actually put it in our Twitter profiles, right?

00:59:11.980 That's what the pronoun debate is about, right? 0.75

00:59:13.740 The pronoun debate is not about a tiny percentage of the population and what pronoun they wish to be called.

00:59:17.840 It's about whether you speak the vocabulary to the extent that you're willing to put your pronouns in your Twitter bio.

00:59:22.560 It's a little fish on the back of your car.

00:59:24.980 It's the lamb's blood on the door.

00:59:29.060 So that the angel of cancellation passes over you.

00:59:31.080 That's right.

00:59:31.440 I think race is just way too useful to what everyone's saying here.

00:59:38.100 I mean, race is way too useful a tool for corrupt politicians to forego using.

00:59:43.880 I mean, I always bring up what I think is one of the most profound things that's been said about race in recent times was by Morgan Freeman in a 60 Minutes interview about 20 years ago.

00:59:53.380 And he was asked, what should we do about racism?

00:59:56.800 And his answer was, stop talking about it.

00:59:58.600 And that is the answer.

01:00:00.080 If you really want to solve racism, to the extent that it can be solved, and it really can't be totally solved, of course, because we can't live in a real utopia.

01:00:05.700 But to the extent that it can be solved, just you let people live their lives, especially kids.

01:00:10.480 I can remember anyone who grew up in the 90s.

01:00:13.220 I can remember growing up in the 90s.

01:00:15.540 And, you know, I had kids, black kids, Hispanic kids, a lot of Asian kids in my class.

01:00:20.940 You didn't really think about it.

01:00:21.800 I mean, you noticed, you noticed that they were, you know, different skin color from you.

01:00:27.300 You might even make a joke about it, God forbid.

01:00:29.500 Right, right.

01:00:29.720 You joke, the fact that you could joke about it shows that it wasn't a big deal.

01:00:33.420 But, and you went about your life.

01:00:35.220 The adults have to come in and tell the kids, no, no, no, wait a second.

01:00:38.460 This is really significant.

01:00:39.500 The fact that that person looks different from you, that should matter to you a lot.

01:00:42.940 Sesame Street is now where you're thinking of it, right?

01:00:44.260 Right.

01:00:44.380 Sesame Street is now teaching kids that you have to think in racial essentialist terms that a deep fact about you is the nature of your race, which is precisely.

01:00:51.640 Why didn't we think of this before, you know?

01:00:53.060 Why didn't we think of racism before, you know?

01:00:54.580 It's such a good idea.

01:00:55.860 It works so well. 0.81

01:00:56.980 You see how this played for, if you want to see how the deal with the devil was made by the Democrats, I mean the devil of racism because the Democratic Party is the racist party. 0.87

01:01:04.380 Their anti-racism is pure racism. 0.94

01:01:06.040 It is just racism.

01:01:06.920 It is thinking of people simply in terms of immutable characteristic and then essentializing the immutable characteristic, which is the definition.

01:01:14.380 Of racism, traditionally, until they've decided to rig the definitions.

01:01:18.280 But what they've decided to do, Bernie Sanders is the perfect example of this.

01:01:22.360 So you remember in 2016, Bernie runs and he gets all sorts of plaudits from the side of the far left wing, but there's one push against him from the left that's really effective.

01:01:31.000 And that is, you know, he keeps saying that if we just go to the socialist utopia and everybody has an equal outcome on an individual level, he's not really seeing the racial complexity of America.

01:01:40.040 Remember, he was accused of being racist.

01:01:41.020 Remember, he was too white. 0.93

01:01:42.500 The Bernie bros were too white. 0.95

01:01:43.400 And Bernie's socialism was too white. 0.91

01:01:45.340 It was not racially conscious enough.

01:01:46.860 And so Bernie consciously started adopting some of the language of race, which cuts directly against the language of traditional Marxism, right, which is a class-based ideology.

01:01:55.760 Now you have a race-based ideology.

01:01:57.220 Two original sense.

01:01:58.080 Right.

01:01:58.380 And so, and theoretically in conflict.

01:02:00.920 So basically, I think what has happened here is that the language of racial radicalism, which has more of a basis in American history than the language of class.

01:02:09.000 That was always true.

01:02:10.300 We didn't really have a class.

01:02:11.700 Right, exactly.

01:02:12.080 You can move within the subject.

01:02:13.020 This is why class warfare in the United States historically has not been tremendously successful.

01:02:16.340 But if you go to race, there is an actual terrible history with race in the United States.

01:02:19.680 So if you can take that and you can cram that into all the same socialistic prescriptions you're already giving, right, this is what Joe Biden is doing, right?

01:02:26.480 Joe Biden is saying, you know how we solve racism?

01:02:28.160 We solve racism with infrastructure, right?

01:02:30.580 This is how you have Pete Buttigieg, the whitest person who has yet walked the earth, right, walking around talking about how the way that you solve racism in America is by building new highways under the tutelage of his road building program. 0.77

01:02:41.480 No, highways are racist, he said.

01:02:43.020 Right, he said highways are racist.

01:02:44.700 Other Anglo-Saxon architecture.

01:02:46.600 Listen, the president of the United States has reached out directly to George Floyd's family.

01:02:53.000 He has said, nothing is going to make it all better, but at least, God, now there is some justice.

01:02:59.580 George Floyd had no family.

01:03:01.240 He had no relationship with his family at the time that he was alive, but I'm glad his family is being reached out.

01:03:05.720 I'm also, you know what's amazing about this?

01:03:07.740 It really is truly amazing.

01:03:08.820 So Don Lemon said immediately that justice has been done.

01:03:11.800 Justice is served. 0.54

01:03:12.240 And you know for a damned fact that if any other verdict had come down, we would never have said that. 0.94

01:03:17.720 You're trending right now, by the way, because you said that. 0.97

01:03:20.400 Oh, really?

01:03:20.940 Am I trending for that?

01:03:21.460 Good, I hope I'm trending for that.

01:03:22.740 And this is what they're saying.

01:03:23.440 They're saying, well, Ben, of course, because that would have been the wrong verdict.

01:03:27.620 That would have been unjust.

01:03:28.680 That's how this works.

01:03:29.660 Justice is only when you get your way.

01:03:31.540 I understand.

01:03:32.200 Justice is only when you get your way.

01:03:33.500 I've acknowledged that there might have been a process here whereby a jury could have reached a guilty verdict on the murder charges.

01:03:39.280 But in the absence of, as Matt was saying earlier, with the amount of outside pressure that was being brought to bear on the jury,

01:03:46.900 it is very difficult to imagine that played no role in the way that they went about the decision.

01:03:50.420 Does anybody really believe, no matter what you think of George Floyd or Derek Chauvin or whoever, does anybody really think that what just happened was justice?

01:04:01.020 No, not a single person.

01:04:02.480 Don Lemon doesn't think it.

01:04:03.780 Nobody thinks it.

01:04:04.580 They think that their interest group, their political interest group, exercised their will strongly enough through enough.

01:04:11.260 Because he's missing a lot.

01:04:12.500 It's racial justice.

01:04:12.960 Correct.

01:04:13.280 He's missing a modifier.

01:04:14.640 When he says justice has been done, he means social and or racial justice has been done.

01:04:18.260 He means the media won.

01:04:19.100 We're so powerful that we created this narrative.

01:04:21.780 It ended up all being false.

01:04:23.160 It was not on his neck.

01:04:24.140 You know what I mean?

01:04:24.820 He was not thrown onto the ground.

01:04:25.920 He asked to be put onto the ground.

01:04:27.500 But we created the narrative and we won.

01:04:29.480 That is what that is what he means when he says justice has been done.

01:04:31.940 It means we won.

01:04:33.380 Well, this is why they also this is why the media always picks cases and focuses in on cases of controversy.

01:04:38.920 Right.

01:04:39.280 You notice that there was never any sort of this talk about, for example, the murder of Walter Scott in South Carolina.

01:04:43.780 The black man who was shot in the back by a police officer who then planted a gun near his body.

01:04:47.120 That guy was convicted of first degree murder and he's now spending time in jail.

01:04:50.120 And you know what?

01:04:50.620 No one said a word about it because it was perfectly obvious that it was a case of blatant out and out murder.

01:04:55.620 Right.

01:04:56.440 In this case, because there were conflicting fact patterns, because there was a lot of doubt, very reasonable doubt as to the cause of death.

01:05:02.620 Because if you take three times the deadly dose of fentanyl and have 75 percent arterial blockage, perhaps that might contribute to your cause of death.

01:05:08.720 How dare you?

01:05:09.340 And if you do all of that and you get very exercised in the process of, you know, being in the car with your drug dealer when the police show up to arrest you and all of this.

01:05:17.060 And by the way, quick note on just the evidence.

01:05:19.780 The prosecution did not offer immunity to a key witness in the case, namely the drug dealer sitting next to George Floyd who had been dealing him the drugs,

01:05:24.960 which should tell you something about where the prosecution's head was in this particular case.

01:05:28.340 But if you but the basic idea is that the media picks conflicting fact patterns specifically so that if you mention the conflicting fact patterns,

01:05:35.640 they then suggest that you're a racist who's not in favor of justice.

01:05:37.960 That's right.

01:05:38.240 This is their goal.

01:05:38.960 They only want controversial cases.

01:05:40.700 They only want the Michael Brown case.

01:05:42.200 That's really don't want the Walter Scott.

01:05:43.860 The I think we want the Ahmaud Arbery case.

01:05:45.960 Right.

01:05:46.140 Because the Ahmaud Arbery case, pretty much everybody was like, yeah, even if the guy was walking around trespassing and he wasn't jogging.

01:05:51.600 And still, you don't get to stop a guy in the middle of the street and confront him with guns and tell him to stop.

01:05:55.200 Right.

01:05:55.480 Like most people.

01:05:56.440 And then when the Enmore testimony came out in that particular case, like, OK, sounds like that's a racist problem.

01:06:01.880 Right.

01:06:02.160 When everybody agrees, the media has nothing to stump for.

01:06:04.480 The media can't divide us.

01:06:05.400 The media needs to divide so that they can run roughshod over their enemies.

01:06:07.780 Just just adding to your point.

01:06:09.380 Another example is the I can't.

01:06:12.180 I think her name is Althea Bernstein.

01:06:13.800 A woman, black woman was shot in her home by a police officer, shot dead.

01:06:18.520 She was she was actually sitting there playing video games with her with her with her nephew or something.

01:06:23.040 And it was and and but that even that case, like you think, well, if you're if you're going to select a racial martyr and there's no evidence at all that this that that shooting was racially motivated at all.

01:06:34.180 The police, the police officer just did a horrible thing, made a horrible mistake.

01:06:38.160 But if you're going to select a racial martyr, why not her? 1.00

01:06:40.800 I mean, if it has to be someone killed by the police, why not her? 0.95

01:06:43.640 But right.

01:06:44.060 It has to be it has to be there has to be the controversy element.

01:06:46.580 You can have half a dozen cases where the where the fact pattern is relatively uncontroversial and everybody agrees.

01:06:51.260 And that never becomes an issue because they don't want because they don't want us to agree about these things.

01:06:56.320 They don't want us to actually look at the fact patterns of the case in which we can actually use our brains and recognize that Jacob Blake is not the same as the Walter Scott case.

01:07:03.940 Or we can recognize that this case is significantly more controversial in its actual fact pattern than that case that happened down in Dallas, where there is the man who was in his own apartment building.

01:07:13.420 He's in his own apartment.

01:07:14.420 And what you remember, the white female cop, she went back to her apartment and she took her apartment for his apartment, walked in and shot him.

01:07:19.560 And now she's going to jail. 1.00

01:07:20.300 And everybody's like, well, that looks like a horrible mistake and a tragedy.

01:07:22.780 And she should probably go to jail for that. 0.93

01:07:24.460 When there's no controversy, they have no way to use it as a leverage point in order to run roughshod over there.

01:07:29.000 So we have a question from one of our Daily Wire subscribers, and it seems like a strange day to in any way self-promote.

01:07:35.320 But I do think, Ben, you made the point earlier.

01:07:37.240 The media cannot be reformed.

01:07:39.440 The establishment media must be raised to the ground.

01:07:43.520 And you need to support with your dollars the replacement media.

01:07:46.020 That's not just us, but it includes us.

01:07:48.260 And here from one of our subscribers who's done just that, do you think that the verdict here gives us a good idea of what the Kyle Rittenhouse verdict will be?

01:07:56.640 Candace?

01:07:57.180 Oh, I mean, yes.

01:07:58.460 I think it does.

01:07:59.260 And that's why that was what was really hinging on this case for me is, is it going to be mob rule?

01:08:04.160 You know, and right now it looks like in this country, that's the way it's going up.

01:08:07.120 The media now has the power to decide who is guilty and who is innocent based on their coverage of a case.

01:08:13.600 And that's exactly what happened here.

01:08:14.820 And I think, yes, sadly, yes.

01:08:16.560 Here's Barack Obama cheering the decision, but adds that if we're being honest with ourselves, we know that true justice is about much more than a single verdict.

01:08:26.160 There it is.

01:08:26.740 There is the perpetual revolution.

01:08:29.800 You saw some people on MSNBC were parroting almost that exact line.

01:08:34.140 Not that this was injustice because it was the president of the United States putting his thumb on the scales.

01:08:39.760 No, it was injustice because it could never be enough.

01:08:42.720 Well, this is what Jason Johnson said.

01:08:43.960 This is a direct quote from MSNBC's Jason Johnson.

01:08:46.100 I'm not happy.

01:08:47.080 I'm not pleased.

01:08:47.880 I don't have any sense of satisfaction.

01:08:49.700 I don't think this is the system working.

01:08:51.260 This is the justice system trying to say, hey, this is one bad apple.

01:08:54.300 So, I mean, talk about a non-falsifiable thesis.

01:08:56.800 Yeah.

01:08:56.880 So, if you convict him, all you're trying to do is just throw away the bad apple.

01:08:59.880 But if you don't convict him, it's because America's racist.

01:09:01.980 I mean, this is just a pure Kafka trap, right?

01:09:04.040 He was hoping the jury would come down and convict every cop in America of the murder.

01:09:07.140 Well, because, by the way, this was not about Derek Chauvin and this was not about George Floyd.

01:09:12.680 And this was not about what happened when a guy's knee was on a neck or the neck area or the back or whatever.

01:09:17.720 This was a referendum on all, on the larger truth about all racial issues in America.

01:09:24.380 That's what it came down to.

01:09:25.440 And that's what the jurors had to, had to rule on.

01:09:27.360 And, frankly, when they are considering the threats that they would face, when they are considering the threats to their lives, their families' lives, I don't think they made the right decision.

01:09:37.980 I don't think the evidence was there for the murder charge.

01:09:41.120 But if we were in their shoes, I like to think we'd have the courage to stand up to the mob, but that's a scary thing.

01:09:45.660 I would not have allowed, like, yeah, we were hoping for superhuman courage from the jury because that's what would require.

01:09:51.940 Superhuman restraint, number one, to, when they're not sequestered, to refrain from watching the news.

01:09:57.800 And then also superhuman courage to say to yourself, I am going to, I am doing this, like you said, for the sake of the republic, for the sake of justice.

01:10:04.560 And if that means my life is ruined, I'm going to accept that.

01:10:07.780 And the idea that 12 people altogether, even just one person would say that, but 12 people altogether would have that kind of courage is hard to believe.

01:10:14.720 I mean, for me, if that, if I were, I think I could say right now, I wouldn't be in that boat because I wouldn't have allowed myself to get on the jury.

01:10:22.220 I would have said whatever I had to say to not be on it because, you know, I have to think, well, I got kids at home.

01:10:27.440 I have a wife.

01:10:28.040 Do I want to put them at risk here?

01:10:30.400 The fact that we even have to make those considerations demonstrates how perverse the system is at this point.

01:10:35.540 That's right.

01:10:35.960 I mean, none of that says anything about the individual circumstances for the person who's actually on trial.

01:10:40.880 If the story here is about the jury or if the story here is about the congresspeople outside or if the story here is about the media or if the story here is about anything except for the person who is on trial, then it ain't due process.

01:10:50.680 Right.

01:10:50.780 It's due process in name only at that point.

01:10:53.020 Right.

01:10:53.140 He went through the process and a verdict came down and you respect the fact that he received legal due process and there will be appeals and he will get due process of law that way.

01:11:01.020 But to suggest that the trial was the height of fairness in the midst of an environment where people are literally threatening to burn down the city in which you reside and businesses are boarding up in preparation.

01:11:11.860 Congressmen are threatening.

01:11:12.480 Congress people are threatening this.

01:11:14.160 And it's not an idle threat.

01:11:15.500 Last year they burned down the city.

01:11:16.920 Right.

01:11:17.300 Right.

01:11:17.520 And so you're in that same city.

01:11:19.180 You're a resident of that same city.

01:11:20.860 Yeah.

01:11:21.000 And like I don't know how you would expect this to go any other way.

01:11:27.300 Listen, we can talk about appeals.

01:11:28.900 I think we're in such a bad place as a country.

01:11:31.740 I can no longer say that I have faith that a jury, especially this jury, was capable of coming to a just conclusion.

01:11:40.460 We're also at a point in this society where I can no longer say with confidence that Derek Chauvin will ever face trial again.

01:11:47.520 I'm not sure that they will allow this guy to ever face, to ever have the opportunity to have this thrown out.

01:11:56.460 He may be walking into his death.

01:11:58.520 I mean, this guy, the most hated man in America, a guy who, again, ubiquitous, that video, in the weeks and months following the event, broadly hated, broadly viewed as a murderer by all Americans.

01:12:12.360 It's, I think, fair to say when I first saw the video, my own reaction to it was like, yeah, 100 percent, absolutely terrible.

01:12:19.740 Only in the months after, when you get more and more information, do you realize, oh, yeah, this is why you cannot rush to judgment.

01:12:25.200 You can't even believe your own eyes in these situations.

01:12:28.400 What do you think the Republicans do now?

01:12:30.260 I mean, I will say, I don't think they're going to just let him die in prison.

01:12:32.420 Like, I don't think they're going to put him in with the general population and let him get killed.

01:12:35.120 I'll just put that out there.

01:12:36.140 You don't think so?

01:12:36.720 No, I don't think so.

01:12:37.860 No, I think they recognize that.

01:12:39.040 I think he has a chance on appeal, depending on who his judge is.

01:12:42.560 I will say, by the way, the judge in this case, I mean, the judge made some decisions along the way in this case that I find very questionable.

01:12:49.280 I mean, if the appellate court is serious, which who the hell knows, number one, change of venue was obviously called for.

01:12:56.580 Like, this is the most obvious change of venue case ever.

01:12:58.720 Like, literally ever.

01:12:59.740 And then beyond that.

01:13:00.460 Where do you put it?

01:13:02.120 You put it in a place.

01:13:03.100 Anywhere else.

01:13:03.380 Any, literally, any, take a pin and throw it in a map, right?

01:13:06.920 I mean, like.

01:13:07.340 It would at least be marginally better.

01:13:08.700 Right, exactly, exactly.

01:13:09.940 There was that.

01:13:10.660 There was the entire first week of testimony is not probative in any way, right?

01:13:14.420 The rule number one in evidence 101 is that evidence that is presented in court has to have some value as to the truth or falsity of the proposition at issue, right?

01:13:22.340 It has to, it has to be probative in some way.

01:13:24.080 Is it proving the case against Chauvin or is it not proving the case against Chauvin?

01:13:27.280 The entire first week of testimony was witnesses to the event talking about how they couldn't sleep, how upset they were, how difficult this was.

01:13:33.920 I mean, that is textbook prejudicial testimony.

01:13:36.040 That is textbook stuff.

01:13:37.620 A normal judge would have said, I'm sorry, this has nothing, it's irrelevant, it's prejudicial, you can't allow that sort of stuff.

01:13:43.160 A judge would have thrown out the third degree murder charge, which, again, didn't apply.

01:13:46.140 They convicted him on third degree murder, which patently by the text of the statute does not apply.

01:13:50.900 Like, it really, like, it was so controversial that originally it was thrown out, right?

01:13:53.920 It originally was thrown out, and the appellate court said put it back, and then he had the ability to not put it back, and he was like, okay, fine, I'll go along with the appellate court.

01:13:59.800 This judge, I think, routinely took the path of least resistance here, which is why when he was asked about the Maxine Waters thing, he didn't say, okay, mistrial, because then he would have taken the flack.

01:14:07.980 Instead, he said, there might be a solid case for mistrial for the appellate judge.

01:14:11.480 You know what I mean?

01:14:12.120 It was a show trial.

01:14:13.240 This reminded me, Bush actually, George W. Bush did this with McCain-Feingold, where he said, look, this might not be constitutional, but I'll let the court settle that, and he signed the law.

01:14:24.100 He's supposed to defend the Constitution, too, but he said, I don't want to take the flack, so I'll let the courts do it.

01:14:29.000 That, to me, is what this judge did.

01:14:30.420 He said, you know, an appeals court might think this is due for a mistrial, but, you know, for me, there's no way they heard what this congressman said, one of the most famous politicians in America.

01:14:41.040 There's no way they're going to hear what the president says tomorrow.

01:14:44.040 Let the appeals court deal with that.

01:14:45.940 Kicking the can down the road.

01:14:46.840 Such a dereliction of duty.

01:14:48.340 But no appellate judge is going to.

01:14:50.560 No way.

01:14:50.840 And somewhere along the line, we're also facing a crisis of cowardice.

01:14:54.740 There's very little courage in this country.

01:14:57.020 There's very little courage, especially on our institutions.

01:14:59.380 And you need some people with some courage who are willing to do the right thing simply because it's the right thing, even if you stand to gain nothing from it.

01:15:07.100 And we just we don't have leaders like that.

01:15:09.720 We need a national day of now.

01:15:11.420 But this is what I want to know.

01:15:12.600 I want to know what the Republicans do now.

01:15:15.120 Where where do they stand?

01:15:16.380 And does anybody stand up and say, you know, whether this guy was guilty or not, this has been an absolute abuse by our governing classes.

01:15:23.680 Does anybody on the right have the there might be like three guys on the right Republicans that might have the courage to do that?

01:15:29.380 Because, you know, I bought I love Ted Cruz, but I had him on the show and he he cannot say that Black Lives Matter is is a criminal terrorist organization.

01:15:39.400 He can't get the words out of his mouth.

01:15:40.560 It's Black Lives Matter.

01:15:42.160 They're scared.

01:15:43.040 What's that? 0.90

01:15:43.420 That's what they have successfully bullied white people into being fearful of telling the truth about black people, even if it's the truth. 0.96

01:15:49.220 And to actually don't say it, you can't say it, you can't criticize a black person. 0.88

01:15:52.020 That was the point of the Black Lives Matter movement. 0.59

01:15:54.340 You no longer are allowed to criticize a black person, even when they are deserving of criticism in this country.

01:16:00.740 Otherwise, you are accused of being a racist.

01:16:03.780 That's simple.

01:16:04.400 The name Black Lives Matter is probably the most brilliant branding decision ever in history, or at least in modern American history, because this this is an organization, a group that has their their stated goals, at least for years before they took it down from their Web site.

01:16:17.700 It had almost nothing to do with racial issues.

01:16:19.840 It was a lot of LGBT stuff, trans agenda, trans destroy, you know, the heteronormative thinking and the nuclear family. 0.80

01:16:26.400 And they just tack Black Lives Matter on there.

01:16:28.720 And even Republicans, even now, it almost amazes me that even the Republicans, even at this point, are still afraid to simply say.

01:16:35.880 Democrats understand that Republicans really don't is the power of semantic overload.

01:16:38.960 So semantic overload is where you take a term that is that can is capable of being defined in several different ways.

01:16:44.480 And then you throw it out there. And then if somebody attacks how you're using it, you say, no, no, no.

01:16:49.520 The definition I meant is the one that's completely uncontroversial.

01:16:52.100 Right. So Black Lives Matter is the best example of this, because Black Lives Matter actually means three distinct things.

01:16:56.620 Right. It means the actual concept, which is that black people's lives matter, which is perfectly inarguable. 0.99

01:17:00.800 Right. Right. Then it means the actual group Black Lives Matter, which is a garbage organization. 0.96

01:17:04.440 And then it means the idea that America is systemically racist and all of your neighbors believe that black lives don't matter. 0.99

01:17:09.180 Yeah. Right. So two of the three definitions are really bad. 0.93

01:17:11.060 And so when you attack either of those, when you say, like, Black Lives Matter is a bad group, they go, well, are you saying that black lives don't matter?

01:17:16.980 Right. This is this is always the game. They're doing the same thing for the for the for the people act or the Equality Act.

01:17:22.340 They do this. They do this crap all the time. 0.99

01:17:23.940 It's Joe Biden this week declaring that illegal aliens are no longer illegal aliens. 0.99

01:17:27.300 Now they're just noncitizens. Right. 0.99

01:17:29.000 If we just if we just change the terminology, then magically all the problems go away.

01:17:33.460 All the kids who are pooping in bags on the border right now are perfect. 0.95

01:17:35.720 They're so much happier now that they're being called noncitizens as opposed to illegal aliens while being kept in their cages.

01:17:40.360 But the point is not for those kids, obviously, just like the point of Black Lives Matter is really not to save black lives, 0.91

01:17:45.100 because when you remove cops from high crime areas, more black people die. 0.89

01:17:48.540 When you remove cops from white areas where there's high crime, more white people die. 0.99

01:17:51.780 When you remove cops, more criminals do what they want to do. 0.79

01:17:54.380 The point is not that the point is to use language as a club to wield against your political enemies.

01:17:59.280 The left is phenomenal at this.

01:18:00.620 And the white has and the right has has no real facility with with parsing this stuff and debunking this stuff.

01:18:07.320 Instead, they fall into the trap of either not being specific enough in their language and condemning what it is they're condemning and thus being hit with the hit with the comeback.

01:18:15.840 Someone should write a book about that.

01:18:16.900 I was thinking about that.

01:18:17.840 I might, you know, I would would pain me to plug my book.

01:18:20.120 But this is the topic of my book.

01:18:21.800 Speechless, controlling words, controlling minds at the left.

01:18:24.280 Uses language to if you redefine all the terms, you can redefine reality.

01:18:28.520 This is we've we've only noticed this really since the late 80s.

01:18:32.000 I think that's when people got focused on PC and they said, oh, this political correctness is kind of weird.

01:18:37.000 It had been building, of course, for many decades before that.

01:18:39.800 The people who are behind it were explicit about it.

01:18:43.040 This is going back to the 1920s.

01:18:44.500 By the way, really brilliant theorists, really brilliant leftist thinkers who had very evil intentions.

01:18:50.260 But I actually think they understand free speech very well.

01:18:53.040 I think they understand censorship very well.

01:18:54.620 I think they understand politics very well and have been very successful at it.

01:18:58.420 So they do that sort of thing.

01:19:00.320 And they convince the right basically to either go along with their plans and use all their terms or to kind of throw our hands up and say, oh, we I don't.

01:19:09.260 Please don't.

01:19:09.940 Please don't make me engage in this.

01:19:11.380 And it gets to what we were talking about earlier.

01:19:14.040 Courage is a virtue.

01:19:16.520 I know we're told now it's toxic and masculine or whatever.

01:19:19.220 Courage is a virtue.

01:19:20.380 Courage is the prerequisite for all of the other virtues.

01:19:23.500 If you don't have courage, it doesn't matter what ideas maybe you kind of have in your mind.

01:19:29.460 If you're not willing to actually affect them in the politics, then that in a buck fifty will get you a cup of coffee.

01:19:35.520 Courage is every virtue at its testing point, I think, with C.S. Lewis's phrase.

01:19:38.380 Yeah. Yeah. And I think I think the terrible thing now is they've put us in a position you used to be able to say to people, you know, keep your head down.

01:19:45.220 Don't don't get the good grades and all this stuff.

01:19:47.440 You can't every moment.

01:19:48.600 Every moment requires ordinary people to be heroes now, because if you can't go into your boss and say, you know, I'm not going to listen to you.

01:19:55.060 Tell me they're a white person. I'm bad because I'm a white person. 0.88

01:19:57.220 If you can't say to your professor, you know, what you're saying actually isn't true, they'll just keep on and they will they'll spread.

01:20:03.000 I mean, they moved. They moved the bar really, really quickly.

01:20:05.860 They moved. They kept moving the goalposts.

01:20:07.240 They went from they went from be polite.

01:20:10.160 Right. They just be polite. Just be nice.

01:20:11.840 Yeah. So don't get too confrontational.

01:20:13.660 Be polite. They move from that to speech to speech is violence.

01:20:17.440 And then they move from speech is violence to silence is violence.

01:20:20.360 Right. So silence is violence.

01:20:22.160 The only thing that's not violence is left is violence.

01:20:23.840 Right. And violence isn't violence.

01:20:25.220 Burning down a store is not violence.

01:20:26.360 That's speech.

01:20:26.800 From Nicole Hannah-Jones. It's totally not violence.

01:20:27.940 It's mostly peaceful.

01:20:28.580 No. Silence is violence. You doing nothing is violence.

01:20:30.860 Home Depot refusing to comment on Georgia's voter law is a form of violence.

01:20:35.100 And now we need to launch a boycott against Home Depot for the great crime of not speaking about Georgia's voter law.

01:20:40.300 Right. And so we're quickly reaching the point.

01:20:42.960 But in some ways, frankly, I like there's a there's a part of me that feels like it's kind of good for the country that the left is forcing it to this point.

01:20:49.960 Because if people are forced to the point where they either have to surrender or have courage and there's no third choice, then people are going to be forced to choose whether to surrender or have courage.

01:20:59.220 Because until now, there has been the possibility of you just, as you say, keep your head down, try to live your life, go about your business.

01:21:06.140 But the left isn't going to leave it at that.

01:21:07.760 They're just not.

01:21:08.420 What's the consequence?

01:21:08.840 I mean, the problem is, what is the consequence to your life in a practical sense if you simply surrender and say, fine, whatever, I'll go along with whatever you're saying?

01:21:18.180 I think for a lot of people, they figure, well, it doesn't really affect my life much.

01:21:21.560 I've given up my my soul.

01:21:23.440 I've given up my dignity.

01:21:24.920 I've given up my integrity.

01:21:26.040 But I can give up all those.

01:21:27.700 That's the great thing about living in modern society.

01:21:29.420 You can give up all of that.

01:21:30.660 And yeah.

01:21:31.060 And you can live you can live a pretty comfortable life.

01:21:32.980 So I think, yeah, it's good that the testing point comes.

01:21:36.220 But at the same time, I think most people are going to say, well, just surrender.

01:21:38.440 But Theodore Dalrymple makes the point that in the Soviet Union, once you grasp the lie, once you agree that you can tell that lie, they've got you. 0.68

01:21:47.160 You're emasculated.

01:21:48.460 You're done.

01:21:48.960 Because, you know, what what what follows is the next lie and the next lie is a little easier and the lie after that is a little easier.

01:21:54.620 And finally, they're telling you what to think, what to say, what to do.

01:21:57.680 You're gone. 0.92

01:21:58.420 You know, and I think that lying, you know, I know it sounds dumb, but lying is the first sin.

01:22:05.000 And, you know, once you start to tell that lie, to agree with the lie, that's when your soul disappears.

01:22:09.480 So I want to listen in on the president of the United States.

01:22:11.800 Speaking of lying.

01:22:12.540 Speaking of lying.

01:22:12.780 Speaking of lying.

01:22:13.680 Speaking to the family of George Floyd.

01:22:15.720 I think a John is coming.

01:22:43.240 My daddy's going to change the world.

01:22:45.000 He's going to start to change it now.

01:22:46.720 That's right.

01:22:47.320 Yes.

01:22:48.820 Amen.

01:22:49.420 He's going to change it now.

01:22:52.000 So you've been incredible.

01:22:54.520 You're an incredible family.

01:22:56.420 I wish I were there just before I was around here.

01:22:59.240 I'm standing here.

01:23:00.660 Cedric, we've been talking, we've been watching every second of this.

01:23:03.840 The vice president, all of us.

01:23:06.060 And I'm just, we're all so relieved. 0.57

01:23:11.060 Not just one, but all three, killing on all three counts. 0.95

01:23:16.640 Wow.

01:23:17.640 The president's celebrating guilty on all three counts, even celebrating the third degree murder charge, which.

01:23:24.920 And he's relieved.

01:23:25.940 He's relieved.

01:23:26.880 I'll bet he's relieved.

01:23:27.460 What you just heard there, by the way, is more tasteless, outrageous, offensive, beneath the dignity of the office, et cetera, et cetera, than anything Trump ever said.

01:23:37.380 Yeah.

01:23:37.600 What you just heard just in that audio right there is.

01:23:41.920 But, of course, you know, we were worried about the tweets from Trump.

01:23:44.740 Many of them I didn't like either.

01:23:46.120 But what you take just Joe Biden's behavior in the last two days with respect to this trial.

01:23:51.380 Far worse, I think. 0.88

01:23:52.120 Man, I don't even miss Senator Joe Biden, who was just so against black Americans and criminality.

01:23:56.840 Senator Joe Biden, the author of the three-strikes bill.

01:23:58.740 It's nice that he's relieved now as the president.

01:24:01.000 You know, don't you miss Vice President Joe Biden?

01:24:02.540 I mean, it's just incredible.

01:24:03.480 Vice President Joe Biden, more black men locked up under that presidency.

01:24:07.180 I mean, you really have to appreciate how Joe Biden has managed to transform himself as a hero and a concerned individual when it comes to black people.

01:24:15.700 You know how he did it?

01:24:16.040 You know how he figured, he licked his index finger, he put it up in the air in the morning, and he figured out which way the wind was blowing.

01:24:21.600 Well, I mean, it's just Weekend and Bernie's with him.

01:24:23.960 I mean, they're just, they're rolling him around on a gurney.

01:24:25.820 And basically, as long as they can prop him up upright for long enough, then he can be whatever they want him to be.

01:24:30.040 You know, they're a racial justice warrior. 0.93

01:24:31.440 He can be, you know, a hard on rioters, hard on looters guy.

01:24:35.460 Whatever he has to be that day, because obviously inanimate objects can be whatever you want them to be.

01:24:39.760 Well, at least you can say he's been consistent on the point that he was against the desegregation efforts.

01:24:44.340 And you can almost argue now that he is once again for segregation in America.

01:24:50.120 So I like him on his consistency.

01:24:51.740 Also, you know, he says to George Floyd, they're an incredible, great family.

01:24:57.380 He did the same thing with Jacob Blake.

01:24:58.660 He went and said, great, great, great, wonderful family.

01:25:01.580 You know, I'm not so sure about that. 0.77

01:25:04.040 I mean, if you've got, this is a family member with Jacob Blake breaking into a woman's home, raping her, allegedly.

01:25:10.140 George Floyd, the horrible things he did.

01:25:11.700 You know, I don't, the celebration of the men is a problem.

01:25:17.460 The statement that their families are wonderful.

01:25:19.560 Maybe they are, but there's a lack of evidence there, too, in my mind.

01:25:23.580 What is amazing is the double standard.

01:25:25.360 Meaning, like, if you say, okay, well, you know, I can see theoretically how a jury could reach this verdict,

01:25:30.100 but I think they probably reached the wrong verdict.

01:25:31.620 It's how dare you?

01:25:32.980 How dare you?

01:25:33.900 Justice was done.

01:25:35.260 Well, if the jury had reached the opposite verdict, obviously, then it would have been, no.

01:25:39.460 No, I disagree with this verdict.

01:25:40.920 Justice has not been done.

01:25:42.580 Okay, well, that's not the way any of this works out.

01:25:44.500 But this is true.

01:25:45.800 This was obviously true before the verdict came down.

01:25:47.800 This was, you know, if you were on Twitter, that people were just screaming,

01:25:51.040 how could you possibly, how could you possibly want any other verdict?

01:25:54.500 I mean, this is the way the media were covering it.

01:25:56.040 They were covering every single day as though the prosecution was nailing down every single day.

01:25:59.560 They covered the trial like that.

01:26:01.100 Right, and the defense had nothing, nothing going for it.

01:26:04.260 I mean, one of the prosecution witnesses was a doctor who literally claimed that he could perform medical alchemy.

01:26:10.120 He could sit there and he could watch a tape of a person dying and determine cause of death

01:26:13.980 by watching a third-party video of a person's breath and measuring their oxygen intake by watching how they breathe.

01:26:20.940 I mean, I've never heard of anything remotely like that.

01:26:22.780 It's an incredible feat of medical leisure domain to be able to do that.

01:26:26.320 I mean, I asked my wife if she'd ever heard of anything like that because she is, in fact, a doctor.

01:26:30.920 And she was like, I mean, maybe, but I've never heard anything remotely like that.

01:26:35.620 I'd never seen anything like that.

01:26:36.820 I asked one of the trial watchers if they'd ever seen anything like that on the stand.

01:26:39.560 Because what this person argued is you could just see.

01:26:42.020 You could see when he died.

01:26:43.440 You could see everything happening in real time.

01:26:45.160 You could see that.

01:26:45.680 And you could see, based on that, that it was not a drug overdose and not a heart problem.

01:26:49.340 Right, right.

01:26:49.840 That's an incredible skill set.

01:26:51.200 Yeah.

01:26:51.420 I mean, unbelievable.

01:26:52.180 He never had access to the body.

01:26:53.300 He never did the medical autopsy.

01:26:54.460 The autopsy guy said precisely the opposite.

01:26:56.320 The medical examiner said precisely the opposite.

01:26:57.960 But you had a guy who watched at Haven.

01:26:59.840 But the media treated this guy's testimony was bulletproof.

01:27:03.940 Again, they were aiming for a verdict.

01:27:05.940 They got the verdict.

01:27:06.860 So to them, I suppose, congratulations is in order.

01:27:10.680 No, no, no.

01:27:11.160 You can't congratulate them because as AOC says, this is not justice.

01:27:16.280 Because justice is George Floyd going home tonight to be with his family.

01:27:20.080 That would be kind of messy.

01:27:21.620 He didn't have any family that was in his life.

01:27:23.620 But I guess, yeah, sure, justice would be there.

01:27:25.620 But that does say something, right?

01:27:27.200 They literally want the impossible.

01:27:29.100 They want the impossible.

01:27:30.960 Justice is when the impossible becomes the possible.

01:27:33.520 Isn't that a brilliant dream?

01:27:35.300 It's such a beautiful dream.

01:27:36.720 When the impossible becomes the possible, then justice will have been done.

01:27:39.740 Which means revolution until the end of time, obviously.

01:27:41.980 Yeah, that's right.

01:27:42.400 It says Mayor Jacob Frye, George Floyd came to Minneapolis to better his life.

01:27:47.520 But ultimately, his life will have bettered our city.

01:27:50.400 The jury joined in a shared conviction that has animated Minneapolis for the last 11 months.

01:27:55.780 For the last 11 months.

01:27:56.920 They refused to look away and affirmed he should still be here today.

01:28:00.540 I have a question.

01:28:00.880 How does fentanyl better your life?

01:28:03.360 Quick.

01:28:03.860 Anybody.

01:28:04.360 Passing counterfeit bills.

01:28:05.360 How does that better your life?

01:28:05.860 How does it better your life?

01:28:06.480 Or bring into woman's house and robbing your country. 0.97

01:28:07.840 But with that part, how has he bettered the city of Minneapolis?

01:28:12.460 The rate of murder in Minneapolis is up 30% over the course of the last year.

01:28:15.600 He didn't better any of those people's lives.

01:28:16.840 Those people are dead.

01:28:17.900 They're just as dead as one is.

01:28:18.420 Plus, he's in rubble.

01:28:19.480 Half the city's in rubble.

01:28:20.680 It's just despicable.

01:28:21.680 It's actually disgusting.

01:28:23.020 I cannot just...

01:28:24.960 It bothers me so much.

01:28:26.920 It's just disgusting.

01:28:28.400 They're making the world better one destroyed police force and increased murder rate at a time?

01:28:34.160 We're choosing to live in fiction.

01:28:35.640 This is just fiction, right?

01:28:36.980 We're now living in fiction.

01:28:37.860 I asked on my show, like, can you name a thing that's gotten better in the United States on the racial front since BLM? 0.80

01:28:42.380 Just one.

01:28:43.140 I'm not asking for, like, ten.

01:28:44.160 Like, one would be great.

01:28:45.920 But it doesn't exist.

01:28:47.620 Critical race theory, they'd say, right?

01:28:49.220 Yeah.

01:28:49.720 And more white people are aware of their issues.

01:28:53.640 I think that...

01:28:55.060 You just made a point, Ben.

01:28:58.300 I think it's an important one, which is that the left is creating what the preferred outcome can be,

01:29:04.980 and that's the only outcome they'll allow.

01:29:06.280 And they only serve facts that support that outcome.

01:29:09.340 You've seen it all throughout COVID, too, right?

01:29:11.380 There's a reason that people who are fully vaccinated still wear masks outside in the sun alone.

01:29:18.540 And it's because when you use the entire power, the entire apparatus of all of our institutions,

01:29:23.900 of the government, of the media, to promulgate a lie...

01:29:27.520 Yes.

01:29:28.300 It is almost impossible not to believe it.

01:29:32.220 Yeah, that's right.

01:29:32.620 And that's what we're seeing.

01:29:34.200 And, Candace, you know, no one is being given this lie more than black Americans. 0.95

01:29:39.020 They're lied to 100% of the time.

01:29:41.620 What do we do about it?

01:29:42.580 I mean, unfortunately, it's going to have to be, like you said earlier, it's going to have to be individual decisions.

01:29:47.300 You know, you have the discussions.

01:29:48.540 It's going to take courage, you know, to your credit.

01:29:51.140 People have to just start telling the truth, you know, have to start acknowledging that this is degeneracy, right?

01:29:55.060 To stop pretending that we're not honoring degeneracy.

01:29:57.620 That is the new threshold to become celebrated as a black American in this country. 0.99

01:30:02.340 You have to be degenerate. 0.99

01:30:03.400 That's the truth. 0.88

01:30:04.000 If you're degenerate, you could be honored.

01:30:05.100 If you're not degenerate and you call up the truth and you do things that are honorable, it's the exact opposite. 0.90

01:30:09.760 I can't think of a black person that is celebrated in black America that does not partake in some form of, like, does not back degenerate causes. 0.96

01:30:18.020 You know what I'm saying?

01:30:18.580 Like, even LeBron James, incredible athlete.

01:30:20.660 He should be honored for his athletic ability.

01:30:22.180 All these things. 0.99

01:30:23.100 He gets and he says, black people can't even walk down the street. 0.99

01:30:26.140 You know, can't even walk down the street. 0.99

01:30:27.340 We can't even walk down the street without having to face white people. 0.99

01:30:31.120 We're being hunted down by white people. 1.00

01:30:33.820 He lives in a $100 million mansion in Bel Air.

01:30:36.600 If that is what he is saying, as someone that has made it in this country and can afford to live in a $100 million mansion in Bel Air constructed for him,

01:30:45.560 what are the rest of black Americans going to think when that message is being sent down the pipeline?

01:30:49.520 The only way it's ever going to be fixed is if there is a radical shift.

01:30:54.740 Not radical.

01:30:55.260 I should say actually the exact opposite.

01:30:57.040 If there is a major shift in the education institutions.

01:31:00.920 That's my personal opinion.

01:31:02.000 Do you see the brilliance of it?

01:31:03.220 Six hours a day, they have your kid.

01:31:05.660 Do you get one of six hours a day?

01:31:07.240 It doesn't matter what.

01:31:07.900 You could be the best parent in the entire world.

01:31:10.160 Do you know how hard it is to fight against six hours a day of programming that is happening while you're at work?

01:31:16.000 But this is the brilliance of it, right?

01:31:17.320 That the solution actually perpetuates the problem.

01:31:20.300 So with the masks, everyone's wearing the masks.

01:31:23.120 Half of the country has vaccines, but we still have the triple and quadruple mask, don't we?

01:31:27.280 We were told the reason for the masks is it will reduce anxiety, that we will all feel so much better.

01:31:33.560 We'll get back to normal.

01:31:34.300 What happened?

01:31:35.280 Exactly the opposite.

01:31:36.620 BLM, we were told if we all endorse BLM, we all support BLM, that will improve race relations in the country.

01:31:42.400 We're taking the problem seriously.

01:31:43.660 Has it done that?

01:31:44.240 No, of course.

01:31:44.720 It's just exacerbated that problem.

01:31:48.320 What we are being told is the solution is the problem here, folks.

01:31:52.560 The same could be said of education.

01:31:54.320 We just need more education.

01:31:55.900 The more education students seem to get, the more they hate their country and the less they know.

01:31:59.440 There was a study that came out from ISI.

01:32:01.840 This was now a while ago.

01:32:02.940 It was about 14 years ago.

01:32:04.020 Can you imagine how bad it is now?

01:32:05.400 It was of elite universities, the graduating seniors, incoming freshmen.

01:32:09.320 It was just a survey of civics, history, and government knowledge.

01:32:13.560 The graduating seniors knew less than the incoming freshmen. 0.99

01:32:16.820 They got more ignorant as they went. 0.99

01:32:18.840 Right. 1.00

01:32:19.160 And that's the truth.

01:32:20.120 That is the real pandemic in America. 0.97

01:32:22.440 It's ignorance. 0.92

01:32:23.380 That is the true pandemic. 0.80

01:32:25.040 It's ignorance. 0.83

01:32:25.840 It's ignorance. 1.00

01:32:26.800 And then coupled with the fact that the people that are not ignorant are cowards. 0.99

01:32:29.880 Yeah. 0.99

01:32:30.180 Right?

01:32:30.520 And the fact that children have not been allowed to go back to schools, which I think affects probably minority and poor children worse than anything, is such a sin and such a crime.

01:32:39.680 It's part of this ultimate failure, this incredible policy failure.

01:32:43.160 The New York Times ran a piece saying, to discuss the fact that these children will never catch up is to stigmatize them.

01:32:52.180 And I thought, no, it's to stigmatize you.

01:32:54.380 You did this.

01:32:55.380 You know, and they're like, our elites own no mirrors.

01:32:59.700 We have elites without mirrors.

01:33:00.960 They never look at themselves and say, oh, I made a mistake.

01:33:03.240 But the AFT, the NEA, they're making the world better.

01:33:04.800 Minneapolis got so much better since it's gotten so much better.

01:33:09.080 It got better this week.

01:33:09.800 Minneapolis public schools let out the rest of the week in anticipation of writing the leader.

01:33:13.740 Like, this is an updated form of slavery.

01:33:15.740 And this is the argument that I made in my first book that, you know, I wasn't being funny when I called it a Democrat plantation.

01:33:20.560 I wasn't trying to be, you know, controversial when I called it a plantation.

01:33:23.840 When you examine what the Democrats did under, you know, slavery, when it existed in America and people were being chained, there was a reason why the slave codes did not allow black Americans to learn to read.

01:33:34.460 Right.

01:33:35.240 The whole concept of education is that true education, real education, is that it frees your mind. 0.86

01:33:40.140 So they're now realizing you have to keep this population ignorant. 0.99

01:33:44.260 If we want to enslave them, we have to keep them completely ignorant. 0.98

01:33:46.780 If you want them not to be able to read, you have to send them to the public school. 0.97

01:33:49.860 Right.

01:33:50.500 Literally.

01:33:51.200 That's exactly right.

01:33:51.900 You want them to never learn how to read.

01:33:53.400 It's never learned any hard academics.

01:33:54.920 Right.

01:33:55.020 These kids are not coming out.

01:33:55.860 They can't do math.

01:33:57.140 They don't know.

01:33:57.440 They're nothing about the sciences.

01:33:58.820 Right.

01:33:59.140 But they can tell you about white privilege.

01:34:01.540 Right.

01:34:01.700 They can tell you about how many genders. 1.00

01:34:03.740 They're getting degrees in something that you should learn in first grade.

01:34:05.900 Two genders. 0.91

01:34:06.440 That's it.

01:34:06.860 Right.

01:34:07.080 It's something.

01:34:08.040 Kindergarten.

01:34:08.820 Bathroom for a girl. 1.00

01:34:10.460 Bathroom for a boy.

01:34:11.760 They're polluting all of this because the goal is to turn these people into slaves.

01:34:16.580 And they're doing it successfully, by the way.

01:34:17.880 They're already turning them into economic slaves. 0.99

01:34:19.520 They always say to us, whenever Republicans say, gee, Democrats were the slavers.

01:34:24.660 Democrats started the Ku Klux Klan. 0.58

01:34:26.380 Democrats started Jim Crow.

01:34:28.020 They always say, yes, but then everything changed.

01:34:29.780 And now it's conservatives.

01:34:30.460 But really, now Democrats have brought back segregation.

01:34:33.060 They've stopped education.

01:34:34.600 They've there are more more fatherless children among the black community than there were when

01:34:39.660 Democrats were actually selling their fathers down the river.

01:34:42.400 It's worse now.

01:34:43.320 Their policies are worse now.

01:34:44.560 And that's also the awkwardness, though, when we talk about the fact that schools are closed

01:34:48.800 and they're not opening it.

01:34:50.200 And we and we and we object to that.

01:34:51.720 And that's also been a balance in a balancing act I've been trying to figure out, because I

01:34:56.000 don't like how they've shut down the schools.

01:34:57.840 And I don't like the school.

01:34:59.080 I also hate the schools and I want I want the whole school system to be destroyed.

01:35:03.080 But but I guess the point is that we as a society need to move away from the government

01:35:08.200 school system.

01:35:08.760 In my opinion, you just you can't do it all at once at one time and and leave these kids.

01:35:14.300 Why not?

01:35:14.440 Imagine if everybody just took.

01:35:15.800 Just imagine this world.

01:35:17.020 Everybody just took their child out of school.

01:35:19.020 Well, I mean, I was asked by I was asked by a couple of billionaires if they could put their

01:35:23.500 money into any one thing.

01:35:24.460 What would it be?

01:35:25.280 And I said subsidizing the ability of every child in America to remove themselves from

01:35:29.980 a public school and go to a parochial school.

01:35:32.100 Yeah.

01:35:32.620 If you do that, you'd radically shift the nature of the country, radically shift the nature

01:35:35.840 of the country.

01:35:36.160 There's a point that occurred to me in a sort of ancillary, but I think that it's it's an

01:35:38.980 interesting one.

01:35:39.880 And that is that the the the media have almost tacitly acknowledged that there was a failure

01:35:47.040 of due process and individual justice in this case, because what they've been saying all

01:35:51.160 along is if we had not been out in the streets protesting, it wouldn't have ended this way.

01:35:54.540 That's right.

01:35:55.620 That's what they're saying.

01:35:56.400 They're saying if we had not been out in the streets doing what we did, we are trying

01:35:59.240 what we did is what made the difference here.

01:36:01.420 Well, if that's the case, that's how the system is supposed to work.

01:36:04.760 Gang, I mean, that's if you protesting is what was the deciding factor in the case, you

01:36:09.220 are tacitly admitting the case that a lot of us are making, which is that the jury was

01:36:13.360 not in all likelihood deciding solely on the merits of the case.

01:36:16.820 Fundamentally, every decision made in American public life right now is one of virtue.

01:36:20.840 And the most virtuous thing is to be a victim.

01:36:23.040 And the problem with teaching victimhood is that it is self-fulfilling.

01:36:27.700 Every human being has been mistreated.

01:36:30.080 Every human being has been prejudged.

01:36:31.920 Every human being has been unfairly punished for things that they did not do.

01:36:38.080 Every human being has been punished fairly for what they did, which often feels like an

01:36:42.240 injustice, too, when you see that other people aren't being punished for the things that they

01:36:45.800 do.

01:36:46.440 That is life.

01:36:47.940 At the same time, every human being has victimized someone.

01:36:51.440 Every human being has prejudged someone.

01:36:54.180 Every human being has punished someone for something that they didn't do.

01:36:57.460 Every human being has gotten away with something for which they should be punished.

01:37:00.780 That's also humanity.

01:37:02.640 But the victim mentality tells you that if you rank in the victim hierarchy, instead of

01:37:07.700 seeing yourself and your experiences as consistent with the experience of every other human in

01:37:12.400 the fallen world, yours are unique.

01:37:16.100 They're the result of forces that are arrayed against you.

01:37:19.680 So you've been victimized.

01:37:22.040 Therefore, you've been prejudged.

01:37:24.340 Therefore, you've been punished unfairly.

01:37:27.540 Therefore, you've gotten away with something.

01:37:29.700 Therefore, all of that self-reinforces.

01:37:32.300 And this is what the problem fundamentally with the religion of the left is that it is descriptive

01:37:39.000 of the realities of the human experience.

01:37:41.820 What they tell you will happen happens.

01:37:45.000 The only thing they're lying about is the cause.

01:37:47.980 And for that reason, the fact that our entire society today is dedicated to promulgating

01:37:53.700 the lie that everyone except essentially conservatives, essentially men, essentially white conservative

01:38:01.460 men, essentially white Christian conservative men, when it gets narrower and narrower, the

01:38:05.200 group of people who are only exclusively victimizers, who've never experienced any kind of oppression

01:38:11.400 themselves, who've never experienced any kind of hardship themselves, but have only wrought

01:38:15.040 hardships upon others, they've opened up who is a victim to such a degree that people

01:38:22.360 opt into victimhood.

01:38:25.200 Why wouldn't you?

01:38:25.880 They opt into victimhood.

01:38:27.700 Yeah.

01:38:27.940 And they're training people to believe, especially black Americans, that every bad experience that

01:38:32.240 you have is because of racism.

01:38:34.020 Right.

01:38:34.140 And so this is a perfect conversation.

01:38:35.760 My perfect example of that in a conversation my husband had with a friend of his who is

01:38:40.180 he's, you know, he's a liberal, but like he's not a leftist, I wouldn't say.

01:38:43.120 And he wanted to talk to him about, you know, the race issues and kind of some of the things

01:38:46.380 that I've said.

01:38:46.900 And he said, you know, I have to say to you, he's half black, half white.

01:38:49.960 You know, I have I have to say to you, George, you know, that I have had experiences, you

01:38:54.120 know, as a as a black person.

01:38:55.860 And George said, well, you know, give me an example.

01:38:57.740 And he said, you know, has it ever, you know, I was standing outside and somebody just handed

01:39:02.620 me their keys and assumed I was the valet.

01:39:04.480 And George said, do you know what's happened to me before, too?

01:39:07.140 Yeah.

01:39:07.400 As a white man.

01:39:08.060 Like, they don't understand that these things I have been in a store before and saw a white

01:39:13.160 girl and said, oh, could you get me this size?

01:39:15.500 I just thought she worked at the store. 0.76

01:39:17.120 I had nothing to do with the race.

01:39:18.540 I just happened to be at a time where for whatever reason, maybe it was the way she was standing,

01:39:22.160 hovering.

01:39:22.540 I thought she worked at the store. 0.97

01:39:23.660 But now you have black Americans that are being taught that every time something like that 0.99

01:39:27.720 happens to them, it's because you're black. 0.99

01:39:29.680 Right. 0.99

01:39:30.040 Because you're black that that person thought you were the valet. 0.99

01:39:31.780 It's because you're black that that person cut you off at the light. 0.97

01:39:34.100 All of these mundane experiences, humane experiences that we that we all go to go through are now

01:39:39.920 being massaged by by the institutions and saying, well, that's exclusively happening because

01:39:45.620 of race.

01:39:46.180 Well, they're being perceived only according to that lens.

01:39:48.400 And it gets I think you're totally right, Jeremy.

01:39:49.860 I think this is all about virtue.

01:39:51.260 And what you are seeing is a perfect inversion of the virtues, the traditional virtues that

01:39:56.980 also known as the actual virtues.

01:39:58.640 You know, the left is faithless, openly faithless, openly fatalistic, deeply uncharitable toward

01:40:04.760 everybody.

01:40:06.080 But even think of humility.

01:40:07.620 I mean, we now celebrate pride.

01:40:09.340 And I'm not just talking about some guys wearing weird costumes on Coney Island.

01:40:13.080 Pride has become a leftist virtue as opposed to the true virtue of humility.

01:40:18.800 Patience is a virtue.

01:40:20.340 But we are now told to be patient is to permit injustice to go.

01:40:23.840 And we now need to be reckless and impatient all the time.

01:40:26.780 Temperance, whatever happened to temperance?

01:40:28.140 It's all all of the virtues.

01:40:29.760 You can name any of them.

01:40:30.800 The left is totally inverted.

01:40:32.900 And it is there is an established state church of leftists.

01:40:36.540 I think some of this goes back to you saw some of this with the talking with the bullying

01:40:42.060 epidemic in schools.

01:40:43.380 Yeah.

01:40:43.720 And I used to get in a lot of trouble when I would make this point about the bullying

01:40:46.760 epidemic, which is, first of all, to your point, everyone's a victim and a victimizer.

01:40:51.560 So when you talk about the bullying epidemic, it never made a lot of sense because it makes

01:40:54.300 it sound like there's this group of bullies and they're the epidemic.

01:40:57.120 And then there's the bullied kids.

01:40:58.320 Well, no, every kid bullies and every kid has also been bullied.

01:41:01.280 So rather than focusing all of our energy on trying to stop the bad bullies from being

01:41:05.960 so evil, maybe we should teach kids how to cope with these universal human experiences.

01:41:11.900 A lot of that goes down to virtue.

01:41:13.620 Have some courage to stand up for yourself.

01:41:15.320 Have some patience.

01:41:16.040 You know, all these things.

01:41:16.920 But but we can't we can't look at it through that lens because, of course, that's victim.

01:41:20.500 Then we call that victim blaming.

01:41:21.460 And we're not allowed to do that.

01:41:22.480 There's a point that I was speaking with Jordan Peterson about this recently.

01:41:25.040 And Jordan was we were talking about the fact that Ta-Nehisi Coates had essentially modeled

01:41:30.860 Red Skull in the new Captain America comic on Jordan.

01:41:33.620 I mean, very clearly so.

01:41:35.000 So first of all, put aside the absurdity of Ta-Nehisi Coates, who literally wrote in his

01:41:39.040 memoir about sitting on the top of a department building smoking weed while watching 9-11 and

01:41:43.500 feeling nothing because he had so much hatred for the racial state of the United States,

01:41:47.120 writing the Captain America comic.

01:41:48.680 Put aside the bizarro nature of that.

01:41:50.360 And now he's writing Superman, by the way.

01:41:51.840 Right.

01:41:52.080 Yeah.

01:41:52.320 No, it's it's phenomenal.

01:41:54.060 The the fact that that he is is, you know, doing all that and that Jordan was the target. 0.70

01:42:00.320 We were sort of puzzling this over because Jordan isn't explicitly political.

01:42:04.240 Jordan's main message is basically get your bleep together.

01:42:06.460 Right.

01:42:06.540 If you had to sum it up in one sentence, that would be it.

01:42:08.320 Right.

01:42:08.440 Make your own room.

01:42:09.780 Take take more responsibility on yourself.

01:42:11.740 Your own love.

01:42:12.460 Right.

01:42:12.920 Exactly.

01:42:13.180 Like, like this is his whole shtick.

01:42:15.360 Right.

01:42:15.900 And so we were discussing, like, why is that such a villain?

01:42:18.820 Like, how is that a Red Skull thing?

01:42:20.620 How does that make you into literally Hitler?

01:42:22.040 Right.

01:42:22.180 Red Skull is is is worse than Hitler. 0.85

01:42:24.060 He's a breakaway from Hitler. 0.88

01:42:25.040 Right.

01:42:25.180 He's Hitler's Hitler. 0.92

01:42:26.280 And the and what he came to is that there are forces in our society that that do see it

01:42:31.300 as evil to actively promulgate the idea that you are in control of your own life, because

01:42:35.420 if you promulgate the idea that you're in control of your own life, then what you're at then

01:42:39.040 what you're actually saying is that you're complacent about the systems that are the active

01:42:42.000 powers in your own life and you are taking away the impetus from the left and from the

01:42:46.000 utopians in remaking those systems.

01:42:48.060 You're saying you should really work on yourself first.

01:42:49.580 You should really do all the things in yourself first and stop worrying so much about the systems.

01:42:52.900 Then later we can work together to try and change those systems.

01:42:55.320 But that's evil.

01:42:56.100 That's you.

01:42:56.440 That's you being a collaborator in systems of evil because you're telling people to focus

01:43:00.120 in on the things that actually bring them success within a system that needs to be

01:43:02.580 torn down.

01:43:02.920 To Michael's point, Ibron Kennedy actually came out and said salvation theology is evil

01:43:08.020 because once you have a set of values and there are people who don't fulfill those values and

01:43:11.760 they are excluded, you know, like people who, I don't know, hold pregnant women at gunpoint

01:43:16.160 while they ransack their house, you know, they suddenly are looked down upon for some reason.

01:43:19.860 And I think that that actually is when you have values.

01:43:22.700 I mean, look, these are not the first people.

01:43:24.320 These points were being made in the 18th century.

01:43:26.500 They, you know, these are not the first people to say once you have morals, you know, some people

01:43:30.420 are going to be blamed and maybe just getting rid of the morals will solve the problem. 0.92

01:43:34.100 We have to say goodbye to Candace.

01:43:35.960 She is off to do a hit on Tucker Carlson.

01:43:38.320 Bye bye.

01:43:39.180 If you want more wonderful Candace insights, unfortunately, you can't get them here.

01:43:45.100 Head on over to Fox News where Candace will be at the top of the hour with Tucker. 1.00

01:43:49.780 Candace, thanks for hanging out with us.

01:43:50.780 Thanks, guys.

01:43:51.440 Good to see you.

01:43:52.800 We're still waiting.

01:43:53.960 Remarks from the president and apparently the vice president.

01:43:56.320 This is another thing about the Joe Biden presidency that's so unique and so strange to me is that

01:44:02.000 he can never just appear as president.

01:44:04.100 It is this co-presidency.

01:44:05.540 So we're awaiting remarks from the president and the vice president.

01:44:08.640 Like you remember all those.

01:44:09.280 I've never seen anything like it.

01:44:10.080 That's unbelievable.

01:44:10.960 I mean, they're actively transitioning her into the presidency while he's alive.

01:44:14.580 It's an amazing thing.

01:44:16.260 Can you imagine?

01:44:18.600 I mean, put aside Trump and Trump and Pence because that's a relationship all of its own.

01:44:23.320 But can you imagine even Barack Obama doing this with Joe Biden?

01:44:27.300 Well, did you even need to be in a room with Joe Biden for something like this?

01:44:30.380 Are you kidding me?

01:44:31.320 Did you see what happened just over the last couple of days?

01:44:33.760 Joe Biden accidentally, they let him talk to a reporter and even underneath the mask.

01:44:37.940 So you could barely hear it.

01:44:39.520 But you heard he says, what was that?

01:44:42.960 Zoom in.

01:44:43.620 He refers to the border crisis.

01:44:45.680 The White House has assiduously avoided using the term crisis.

01:44:48.360 So a reporter asks Jen Psaki in the briefing room, hey, you know, the big guy's calling

01:44:52.980 it a crisis now.

01:44:53.680 She says, no, it is not the position of the White House that this is a crisis.

01:44:57.900 Wow.

01:44:58.180 And you know what?

01:44:58.800 She's right.

01:44:59.680 Because Joe Biden ain't running that White House.

01:45:01.640 By the way, we have the wrong person.

01:45:03.340 Honestly, it's a waste of time to wait for Biden and wait for Harris because we already

01:45:06.160 know what they're going to say.

01:45:06.940 Right.

01:45:07.300 What they're going to say is that justice was done today, but it's only the first step on

01:45:10.720 our road toward great restorative justice and the ills of the country can never be healed

01:45:14.880 by this.

01:45:15.220 This won't bring George Floyd back, but this is a step in the right direction.

01:45:17.560 And now what we need is comprehensive police reform and equity in all of our institutions.

01:45:20.900 Done.

01:45:21.160 It just saved you an hour.

01:45:22.120 Yeah.

01:45:22.520 You did.

01:45:23.040 I would put money.

01:45:24.400 It was a little too clear.

01:45:25.240 You spoke that a little too clearly.

01:45:27.000 You didn't have enough weird cackles in there for the Kamala part or sort of spacey digressions 0.99

01:45:32.280 for Joe.

01:45:33.680 So what happens?

01:45:34.580 These guys are taking the fun out of human corruption.

01:45:36.400 I used to find human corruption hilarious.

01:45:38.160 But now it's just too much.

01:45:38.900 Well, when they start winning, that's the power of being able to throw comedy to tragedy.

01:45:42.780 It's like an overdose.

01:45:43.680 Too much of a good thing.

01:45:44.500 The beauty about believing in actual original sin is that in some ways they're always winning.

01:45:49.960 Yes.

01:45:50.340 Like I've been thinking a lot about the collapse of Christian America.

01:45:54.440 And I think, well, Christian America in some ways has it coming. 1.00

01:45:57.740 I'm with you.

01:45:58.700 Because Christian America has made an idol of America. 0.91

01:46:02.020 You know, Christian America has taken the greatest gift that God has ever given to man,

01:46:07.060 the greatest secular gift that God has ever given to man, I should say, and the greatest

01:46:10.260 accomplishment by man's hand in the history of man.

01:46:14.260 And they've turned that into their golden calf.

01:46:17.060 We've made the best golden calf that has ever been made.

01:46:20.320 And that is true.

01:46:21.260 It doesn't, the one doesn't necessitate the other.

01:46:24.540 Yeah.

01:46:25.280 Except because original sin exists, it will always result in the other.

01:46:29.320 Great line in C.S. Lewis where he says, he says, it's a good time to hit a guy if you're,

01:46:34.140 you know, when they're in the screw tape letters where the demons are trying to corrupt people.

01:46:38.380 He says, a good time to corrupt people is in middle age when they become successful

01:46:41.100 because they think they're making their way in the world, but the world is really making

01:46:44.420 its way in them.

01:46:45.320 And I think that that's exactly what happened to the church in America.

01:46:47.800 They had it so easy.

01:46:48.880 They had all the respect.

01:46:49.740 They had all the power you could ask for.

01:46:51.260 They were uplifted.

01:46:52.320 And they just thought like, you know.

01:46:53.820 Well, you know, it's funny.

01:46:54.800 In screw tape, there's another great line that applies here, which is, it says at times

01:46:58.200 of war, you know, look, it's not necessarily a great time to go after a man because they

01:47:03.080 can spur courage and all these sorts of things.

01:47:04.780 But, you know, you can really, maybe the man, he'll become a jingoist. 0.80

01:47:08.920 He'll become so insanely nationalistic that you can get him that way.

01:47:12.840 Or he'll become a pacifist and he'll hate his country and you can get him that way.

01:47:15.920 But the one thing we can't have is an ordinate love of country.

01:47:19.280 Because love of country, patriotism, is an extension of filial piety.

01:47:22.620 It is perfectly right to love your country, but you're right.

01:47:26.140 You can make an idol out of this sort of thing.

01:47:28.540 And we know what happens when people make idols.

01:47:31.540 If you want to save America, if you want to save America as sort of the unique gift

01:47:36.140 that God has given, you actually have to, and this ties into the entire conversation

01:47:42.640 tonight, you have to remember that you are an individual.

01:47:46.160 You have to remember that you're not America. 0.81

01:47:47.800 You don't deserve any credit for World War II. 0.78

01:47:50.360 No one sitting here, no one sitting, we like to say, we put a man on the moon.

01:47:54.880 No one sitting here put a man on the moon.

01:47:56.180 We defeated the Nazis. 0.79

01:47:57.840 No, we didn't.

01:47:58.640 We defeated the Japanese. 0.99

01:47:59.900 No, we didn't.

01:48:00.480 All the people who did, almost all the people who did are dead.

01:48:03.520 Those individuals showed great courage.

01:48:06.740 Now, it's not wrong of us to have pride in the accomplishments of our fathers.

01:48:11.560 Gratitude, perhaps.

01:48:12.200 Gratitude for the accomplishments of our fathers.

01:48:13.760 It is wrong for us to assume credit for the victories of our fathers.

01:48:20.660 We have not earned those victories.

01:48:22.100 We've not earned that credit.

01:48:23.800 If you want, you know, America as we've traditionally understood it, if you want Christianity in this 0.97

01:48:29.380 country or religion in this country as we have historically religious freedom in this

01:48:32.640 country as we have historically understood it, you have to be as great as all the people

01:48:38.000 who actually earned those things.

01:48:39.340 Their achievements are actually an accusation.

01:48:41.680 They're an actual call to responsibility.

01:48:43.460 The fact that our fathers did that means that we have to at least, at the very least, tell

01:48:48.220 HR that, like, you know, no, I'm not going to curse whiteness.

01:48:51.420 That's right.

01:48:52.040 We have to show even the most small modicum of courage.

01:48:55.140 I do want to clarify, though.

01:48:56.540 So, you know, we don't get to claim their accomplishments, like Washington and Jefferson and all that.

01:49:01.840 Does it make us great if we just, like, rip down all their statues?

01:49:05.560 Part of the problem for the church is that our threats that we face are all mostly spiritual.

01:49:16.720 We don't have those physical outward threats that force you to make that choice.

01:49:22.280 Like, even Christians still today face some of the worst persecution in 2,000 years of church

01:49:27.040 history in other parts of the world where, you know, there are so many cases you could

01:49:31.320 point to, but there's one case a few years ago in Egypt that Christians were on a bus

01:49:39.100 on the way to a monastery in the desert to pray, and some jihadists stopped them, pulled

01:49:44.280 them off the bus, and asked each one of them individually, are you a Christian?

01:49:48.040 And if they said yes, they were shot and killed.

01:49:49.920 And that's one of those moments where it's like, this really is the time to choose.

01:49:52.680 Am I going to be a Christian or not?

01:49:53.820 And we don't really, we don't have situations like that, so we can kind of float our way

01:50:01.380 through the culture without ever facing that external threat where we have to make that

01:50:06.320 choice.

01:50:06.580 But this is a place where conservatives really need to start doing something that is very

01:50:11.980 counter-conservative, which is we really start needing to unify and collectively, because

01:50:15.620 there is a certain sort of solidity in numbers.

01:50:17.980 We're very individualistic.

01:50:18.840 We've talked a lot about individualism tonight and the value of seeing ourselves as an individual

01:50:21.840 as opposed to a member of a tribe of mutable characteristics.

01:50:25.840 But it's very difficult if you're the one employee at your company to get up and say

01:50:31.560 something and then get fired.

01:50:32.760 What we actually need are broad movements of people in the United States to basically

01:50:37.380 be the wobblies.

01:50:38.500 Like, OK, fine, you're going to fire this guy.

01:50:40.080 We're all going to leave.

01:50:40.900 Yeah.

01:50:41.120 It is about creating community, but at the actual level of community.

01:50:45.060 Correct.

01:50:45.540 Not online community, not hypothetical community.

01:50:48.260 Right.

01:50:48.480 It's about forming connections.

01:50:49.440 And this is a place where the conservative community has really failed, because conservatives

01:50:52.820 used to leave it to the church to do that.

01:50:55.100 Right.

01:50:55.200 And churches, especially over the last year, since they've been forcibly disbanded by the

01:50:58.520 federal government, churches have lost a lot of capacity to do that.

01:51:02.720 And they've lost a lot of the internal cohesion that conservatives used to find in community.

01:51:07.140 And so we're going to have to find some ways.

01:51:08.900 I think, honestly, we should be doing that at Daily Wire.

01:51:11.040 I think that over the course of the coming years, we at Daily Wire should be finding ways

01:51:13.760 where we can bring people together so they feel a sense of community and they feel a sense

01:51:17.000 of solidarity and feel a sense of solidity.

01:51:18.860 Yeah, we should.

01:51:19.260 But if they stand up, we're all going to stand up at the same time.

01:51:21.320 We should point out that having courage does not mean sticking your head in the cannon's

01:51:24.320 mouth.

01:51:24.620 It means strategizing and gathering together.

01:51:27.140 Yeah, that's prudence is a virtue, too.

01:51:28.600 That's one thing.

01:51:29.480 Prudence is a virtue, too.

01:51:30.360 Exactly.

01:51:31.380 I think we probably all get this all the time, but when you go out to speak or something

01:51:34.880 and you meet people who are followers of Daily Wire, one thing I often hear is,

01:51:40.460 oh, well, I like listening to you because it lets me know that I'm not alone.

01:51:43.540 Right.

01:51:43.720 And I feel like I'm alone.

01:51:44.620 And you hear this, especially in college campuses all the time.

01:51:47.260 And it's crazy because we hear that so often.

01:51:49.500 It's like, of course, we're not alone.

01:51:50.320 There are millions of us out there.

01:51:51.460 But somehow we can all still feel like we're the only sane.

01:51:54.960 But do you know what conservatives do?

01:51:56.260 And this drives me crazy.

01:51:58.160 And you hear it attacked on all sides, which is that, you know, fusionism was really awful

01:52:04.200 because of, you know, Buckley wasn't strong enough or Reagan wasn't strong enough or this

01:52:07.940 or that.

01:52:08.540 There are all these different kinds of conservative, right?

01:52:10.560 There's the traditional conservatives.

01:52:11.880 There's the libertarians.

01:52:12.740 There's the neocons.

01:52:14.060 There's the populists.

01:52:14.960 There's this.

01:52:15.500 There's that.

01:52:15.960 You could go into a room of 100 conservatives where they could all agree on 90 percent of

01:52:19.620 things and they'd find the 10 percent and all fight each other all day and they won't unite.

01:52:24.100 Well, guess what, folks?

01:52:25.200 If we I'm not saying that I don't think the conservative coalition that existed, say,

01:52:29.080 from the end of the Second World War through the end of the Cold War.

01:52:31.180 I don't think that exactly is going to be the future, but there has to be a coalition because

01:52:36.860 there ain't enough other traditionalists and libertarians.

01:52:39.820 You have to compromise to make a coalition.

01:52:41.240 And I think that, but there is something to, I think, even the notion of physical togetherness.

01:52:45.360 I think the way you saw over the last year for the left that was so transformational is

01:52:49.400 that, and greenlit by our corrupt media and our corrupt public health establishment who 0.90

01:52:53.300 said that in the middle of the pandemic it was totally fine to congregate so long as you

01:52:55.920 weren't mentioning Jesus.

01:52:56.620 Because, you know, really, I mean, that's really what it was.

01:52:59.900 You could you can mention racial justice, but if you mentioned God back to back home 0.62

01:53:03.700 with you, then the the the giant I mean, there are 20 million people in the streets.

01:53:08.480 Yeah.

01:53:08.800 20 million people in the streets.

01:53:10.100 It was the single largest protest movement in American history.

01:53:12.560 And it wasn't just rioters.

01:53:13.620 Right.

01:53:13.760 I mean, there were riots and that's what we pay attention to on the right.

01:53:15.660 But there was this huge movement of people who are out there feeling solidarity with each

01:53:19.760 other.

01:53:20.180 The left has found its solidarity.

01:53:21.940 They found when we say that politics is a religion of the left.

01:53:24.360 I don't just mean that they see politics in a religious way.

01:53:27.440 I mean, they find a religious community, which is really how most people interact with religion.

01:53:31.340 They find a religious community in politics.

01:53:34.440 And so for them, Twitter is a church group for them.

01:53:39.140 For them, when they when they go to a political event, it is the equivalent of me going to synagogue

01:53:43.160 on a Saturday and reading from the Bible.

01:53:45.620 And for conservatives, we don't have that because, again, we used to think that church was the place

01:53:49.680 you go to get that.

01:53:50.320 But we're going to need to start figuring out the ersatz way of coming together here or

01:53:54.040 it's going to collapse really, really quickly.

01:53:55.800 The people in the street, they also knew what they were there for.

01:53:59.580 Like they they they have a very simple concept of anti-racism.

01:54:03.080 We're fighting racism.

01:54:04.260 Most of their ideas about that are false, of course, but that's what they're there for.

01:54:07.880 The problem for conservatives that we always talk about is we don't really even agree on

01:54:12.060 what we're fighting for.

01:54:12.920 So what?

01:54:13.820 OK, they're in the street saying we're going to take down racism.

01:54:16.440 What are we in this?

01:54:17.440 What's on our banner?

01:54:18.420 What what what even are we saying?

01:54:19.720 I think we put 100 of us in a room.

01:54:21.780 You're going to get like 90 different answers to what should be on the banner.

01:54:24.200 And we always we always talk about free speech in the abstract.

01:54:27.620 I like free speech in the abstract.

01:54:28.740 We talk about freedom of religion in the abstract.

01:54:30.640 I like freedom of religion in the abstract.

01:54:33.020 Those things don't really matter if you don't have something to say, if you don't have something

01:54:38.100 that you believe.

01:54:39.280 You've actually got to fill it in.

01:54:41.280 We like the abstract stuff, but there is a real practical tradition here we've got to deal

01:54:45.360 with.

01:54:45.600 And so we've got to figure out what do we want to say?

01:54:47.480 What do we want to believe in?

01:54:48.660 I'm not saying it has to be strictly religious.

01:54:50.460 The funny thing is, I don't disagree with you guys.

01:54:54.700 But I actually don't think that what we that what we lack is a rallying cry because we are

01:54:59.960 conservatives.

01:55:00.660 We're content to be reactionary and just rally against whatever the left is doing today.

01:55:04.540 What we actually lack is community.

01:55:06.560 And it's why the last year has been so there's no infrastructure.

01:55:09.560 And one of the reasons the last year has been so devastating is because when when you work

01:55:13.020 for some massive corporation that hasn't been able to bring its employees back or hasn't

01:55:17.180 had the courage to bring its employees back for the last year and you're taking some sort

01:55:22.180 of anti-racist HR lecture on how whiteness comes inherently with guilt or whiteness comes

01:55:28.520 inherently with oppression.

01:55:30.200 And you're taking it over Zoom.

01:55:32.240 You can't even glance around the room to see who else is looking at their shoes.

01:55:36.020 Yeah.

01:55:36.240 You have no ability to seek out anyone who agrees with you in real time in that situation.

01:55:41.200 You are truly alone and truly alone.

01:55:43.960 Most people lack courage.

01:55:45.780 It's so many conservatives are calling, saying that the solution is going to have to be more

01:55:51.920 localism.

01:55:52.200 You know, the Benedictine option and the whole idea that we're going to have to retire into

01:55:57.300 our communities.

01:55:58.360 I don't you know, I don't think that would work any more than it was going to work for

01:56:01.640 Switzerland during World War Two.

01:56:03.160 Ultimately, you're you do that.

01:56:05.140 You're alone and you're surrounded and you're going to lose.

01:56:07.420 You know, I think that we really do have to have a movement.

01:56:10.780 And you're right, too.

01:56:11.680 It's got to be a coalition movement because we are very different.

01:56:14.400 We are individuals.

01:56:15.660 We do believe in letting each you know, this is the thing.

01:56:18.600 We don't believe in shutting each other down.

01:56:20.060 We don't believe in telling each other to shut up.

01:56:21.700 We believe in actually talking about this.

01:56:23.220 This is why what the left has done over the course of the last 20 years is one of the

01:56:26.140 honestly, it's one of the great political maneuvers in human history.

01:56:29.920 Oh, yeah.

01:56:30.220 They've taken over every institution in American life, every single one.

01:56:34.660 They're the resistance.

01:56:35.240 Without question.

01:56:35.880 They're the resistance.

01:56:36.800 They're the powerful, but they're also the resistance.

01:56:38.320 An incredible thing.

01:56:39.460 And they've been able to take over.

01:56:41.080 Sorry, Ben, I'm going to interrupt you.

01:56:42.700 We have the co-presidents, Joe Biden and Kamala Harris.

01:56:46.380 In fact, Kamala Harris coming to the microphone first. 0.97

01:56:48.620 Let's hear from the White House.

01:56:49.540 There's the president and co-president of the United States of America, both addressing

01:56:54.640 the nation with essentially three messages. 0.98

01:56:58.800 America is fundamentally evil and racist.

01:57:02.420 We should all come together and agree with the co-presidency.

01:57:06.420 And we must transfer even more power into the federal government.

01:57:10.180 That was disgusting. 0.86

01:57:11.600 That was a disgusting speech. 1.00

01:57:13.140 It was so dishonest. 0.99

01:57:14.240 It was so thick with lies to talk about this country as if no, you know, as if like Rod

01:57:19.460 Steiger were running police departments from in the heat of the night, you know, that you

01:57:23.880 couldn't get a conviction against a dishonest cop.

01:57:26.300 We get them all the time.

01:57:27.560 This is not the 1930s.

01:57:29.080 It's not the 1940s.

01:57:30.340 Police departments have been revolutionized in the last 20, 30 years.

01:57:34.840 They look like the neighborhoods they police.

01:57:36.840 They are completely integrated.

01:57:38.080 Every city in America has changed in the terms, in terms of policing.

01:57:41.700 This was not, this was not a, let's just say for a minute that the verdict was correct.

01:57:47.680 So what?

01:57:48.400 Well, it happens all the time.

01:57:49.480 We get correct verdicts all the time.

01:57:50.460 So both of those speeches were about how America is racist.

01:57:54.060 Again, where is the racial component of the children?

01:57:57.240 That's another.

01:57:57.800 Where is it?

01:57:58.180 Like, has anyone yet provided the shred of evidence to suggest that it was a racial killing?

01:58:01.460 I wasn't even.

01:58:02.020 You know why?

01:58:02.560 None.

01:58:03.240 And then not only that, you have Joe Biden out there saying that America's police, all

01:58:07.720 of our systems are actually systemically racist.

01:58:10.100 That if you're a black person in America, you should feel an existential risk just by

01:58:14.280 living, just by living your life. 0.99

01:58:15.580 You could be, you could be killed at any moment.

01:58:17.480 But also most cops are good.

01:58:19.400 I don't believe you.

01:58:20.460 I don't believe that that's what you think about cops.

01:58:22.100 Yeah.

01:58:22.400 If what you think is that America, because these, these two are in their mutually exclusive 0.87

01:58:26.140 positions.

01:58:26.600 If most cops are wonderful, good people, and only a few are bad apples, then how can you 0.97

01:58:31.260 argue that the system of policing is so fundamentally broken that black people are walking around 1.00

01:58:34.860 in mortal fear for their lives every single day?

01:58:37.560 Look, it's not that I'm clairvoyant when I said what exactly they would say.

01:58:41.360 It's that their agenda is perfectly clear.

01:58:43.200 Yeah.

01:58:43.460 And it's always the same, which is, let us take a data point.

01:58:48.080 The data point may not fit our narrative, but we'll twist it so that it does fit our

01:58:50.400 narrative, right?

01:58:51.020 We won't actually have to show evidence that it was a racial killing, but we'll say that 0.98

01:58:53.140 it was a racial killing because then it fits our narrative.

01:58:55.340 Then we take that racial narrative and then we blow it up so that it is all encompassing.

01:58:59.100 It is the narrative of all of America, and then if you just give us more power, then

01:59:03.000 we will fix it for you.

01:59:03.860 But don't worry, because here's the thing, it will never, we'll never reach the promised

01:59:07.020 land.

01:59:07.620 We will always be Moses on the mountaintop gazing over at the promised land, but we will

01:59:10.300 never reach it.

01:59:10.860 It's like Zeno's paradox.

01:59:11.760 The closer we get to paradise, we are still not, we're never going to reach paradise,

01:59:14.880 which means if you just keep incrementally giving us power, then at least we're moving

01:59:18.960 in the right direction.

01:59:20.780 There's no mission accomplished here at any point.

01:59:23.580 Now, listen, I think that life is about there never being a mission accomplished banner because

01:59:26.740 there's really never a mission accomplished banner in life, but you have to at least have

01:59:30.580 some metric when you suggest that massive power is to be shifted from the individual

01:59:34.640 to the federal government.

01:59:35.480 You have to have some metric of success that you can demonstrate, and there is no metric

01:59:39.320 of success that they can demonstrate along anywhere here.

01:59:41.380 There has to be no room for hate in the heart of any American.

01:59:44.340 That's what he said.

01:59:45.540 That's what he said.

01:59:46.520 And I mean, first of all, hatred is a perfectly reasonable emotion to show in some cases,

01:59:50.960 and part of what defines us as what we hate, there's always going to, and there's always

01:59:55.020 going to be sinful hate.

01:59:55.980 There's always going to be wrongful hate in America and everywhere else.

01:59:59.040 Well, that's part and parcel of the redefinition of humanity, that if you redefine all the

02:00:02.820 systems of the government, if you redefine all the systems and institutions under which

02:00:06.360 we live, you will remake human beings into pure angels.

02:00:09.800 And that's endemic to everything that they're saying.

02:00:12.140 If anything, it's pure angels have hate.

02:00:13.880 Here's some member questions.

02:00:15.020 Do you all think they're letting riots go on to create a crisis that they'll solve with

02:00:19.760 nationalized police?

02:00:21.240 Can this go hand in hand with defunding local police and passing gun control to finally

02:00:25.200 create a totalitarian federal government?

02:00:27.520 That is what I think they want, is they want federal police.

02:00:29.800 They do not like the fact that the police are responsible to the community.

02:00:34.120 Obama was doing that town after town, was forcing them into federal oversight.

02:00:39.380 And every time he did it, crime went up because the rules of engagement became so absurd.

02:00:44.340 Local policing is one of the great things that America has.

02:00:47.980 It's the fact that you have a, you know, if you live in Nashville, you have the Nashville

02:00:50.780 police.

02:00:51.280 They know the community, they're responsible for the community.

02:00:53.660 The federal government hates that.

02:00:55.060 They hate people.

02:00:55.940 They hate the people. 0.89

02:00:56.840 They hate the people.

02:00:57.780 They do not trust the people.

02:00:59.000 They don't respect the people.

02:01:00.300 They think the people should not be making their own decisions.

02:01:02.440 They think the problem, the endemic racism is not in the government.

02:01:06.100 It's not in the system of government.

02:01:07.460 It is in the people.

02:01:08.540 They do not like the very idea.

02:01:10.460 When you talk about individuals, they hate that.

02:01:12.700 They hate the idea that we are a mass of individuals, each with his own desire to make our lives

02:01:17.380 better, which is what powers America, what's made America great.

02:01:20.620 By the way, it's the next great conflict.

02:01:21.640 And they just despise it.

02:01:22.400 The next great conflict is going to be federal state, right?

02:01:24.840 Because the goal of the Democrats right now is to federalize all the things.

02:01:27.940 Yeah.

02:01:28.300 Right?

02:01:28.440 It's not just about federalizing police forces, which is barred by the Posse Comitatus Act,

02:01:32.000 and you can't do it legally.

02:01:33.120 But what it really more than that is about, they're trying to federalize all voting procedure.

02:01:37.680 That's right.

02:01:37.940 They want literally everything run at the top level so they can remove all power from

02:01:41.060 the states to provide any sort of barrier to what it is that they would like to do in

02:01:44.500 reshaping all of America, which is why you're seeing governors increasingly in red states

02:01:47.720 say, listen, you can pass whatever laws you want.

02:01:49.800 We're not helping you enforce them.

02:01:50.860 Yep.

02:01:51.380 And their last bailout bill forbids states to raise taxes, basically.

02:01:56.580 Cutting taxes.

02:01:57.140 Yeah, cut taxes.

02:01:57.860 Cut taxes.

02:01:58.340 You talk about they hate the people that they're leading.

02:02:01.840 And you find this in the cities, too.

02:02:03.460 The people running the cities despise those cities and despise the people in it, which

02:02:08.800 is, you can't lead something that you hate.

02:02:10.700 And I mean, a really absurd example that everyone laughed about, because it was hilarious, but

02:02:14.060 also really disturbing, is, I forget which city it was, but there was some mayor of a

02:02:17.480 city, maybe it was in South Carolina, where she wrote this weird poem comparing her city

02:02:23.100 to a rapist. 0.98

02:02:24.300 And it's, yeah. 0.99

02:02:25.920 Charlottesville.

02:02:26.440 Right.

02:02:26.840 Charlottesville.

02:02:27.480 And it's, and yeah, it's, it's, it's funny because it's so absurd, but also, you're the

02:02:32.080 mayor of the city and this is what you think of your, your city that you lead.

02:02:35.420 It's just, there's no way to hate, to, to lead something that you hate.

02:02:38.220 This is also what I was saying about the revolution from inside the institutions, right?

02:02:40.920 This is what they've actually realized now is that it used to be the revolutionaries

02:02:44.220 were against the people who wanted to use the institutions for change, right?

02:02:46.980 This is the conflict between the radicals and like the LBJ administration, for example.

02:02:50.360 And now they've realized, what if it's just perpetual revolution from the inside?

02:02:53.080 What if we just take over the institutions from the inside and we use those for the perpetual

02:02:56.660 revolution?

02:02:57.080 Because there is something odd about watching Joe Biden, a creature of government for his entire

02:03:01.260 adult life, a person who's been in Washington DC on the taxpayer dime for his entire adult life.

02:03:05.280 Since before he was constitutionally old enough to serve.

02:03:08.040 Correct.

02:03:08.400 And there's something weird about that guy talking about the systems of American racism

02:03:12.060 and how they're deeply embedded.

02:03:14.060 And that guy's been in Congress since 15 years before I was born.

02:03:17.500 I mean, he's been there forever.

02:03:18.960 And, and yet he's capable of doing this work because he's going to shift the institutions

02:03:24.720 into instruments of the revolution.

02:03:26.220 So another member question, do you think that Biden and Kamala actually believe their lies

02:03:30.600 or are they so engrossed in pushing their narrative that they're just fine with completely lying

02:03:35.140 to the American people?

02:03:36.260 I don't think Biden believes anything really.

02:03:38.340 I think, I think part of that is a function of the fact that he's been in government forever.

02:03:41.100 So he's just been, I don't, you can't survive in government for that long and have any real

02:03:46.160 conviction.

02:03:46.620 You have to be totally emptied of any personal convictions at all.

02:03:49.700 And also he's, he's half senile, which is, which he is clearly.

02:03:52.940 Um, as far as Kamala, I think it's, I think it's the same thing, but they don't, we were

02:03:57.860 talking about this off there.

02:03:58.620 Do they, when they talk about George Floyd and how they're still mourning him after all

02:04:03.840 this time, do the people saying that, uh, Joe Biden, Nancy Pelosi, Kamala Harris, do

02:04:10.520 they really feel that inside their heart?

02:04:12.680 So that are, are they personally a year later still in mourning over this guy?

02:04:16.760 They didn't even know.

02:04:17.320 Um, it's, it's hard to believe.

02:04:19.400 I don't think they do, but a lot of the people in the streets are indoctrinated.

02:04:22.760 So for, so for them, it's real.

02:04:24.060 To quote a very famous politician, what is truth?

02:04:28.060 Pontius Pilate, Pontius Pilate is a cynic.

02:04:30.360 So he says, what is truth?

02:04:31.540 It's not that he's pushing lies.

02:04:33.180 It's not, it just doesn't care about the truth.

02:04:35.320 And he is in some ways the archetypal politician because politicians generally are focused on their

02:04:40.880 interests and are not so concerned with eternal truths.

02:04:44.380 And this is especially true of the left, which even at the intellectual level, very often

02:04:50.460 denies objective truth.

02:04:51.800 This is so much what the upheavals of the, especially the 1960s and seventies were about

02:04:55.680 is denying that there's, there's anything permanently true that it's all, it's all just social constructs.

02:05:00.940 This is a sort of cosmic accident.

02:05:02.280 And so ultimately what does politics come down to?

02:05:04.920 It comes down to constructing a narrative that may or may not have any relationship to reality

02:05:09.500 in so doing through this act of redefinition and narrative, changing the reality and therefore

02:05:14.820 forcing our will on people as a brute interest group.

02:05:18.880 I think, I think Kamala and Joe absolutely believe that.

02:05:21.880 And I think they're doing a very good job at it.

02:05:23.460 Next question.

02:05:24.240 Why is the president of the United States and the vice president of the United States,

02:05:27.840 why are they giving a statement at the end of a trial as if it affects the nation in any way?

02:05:32.480 Well, that's Ben's point of it really, this is not criminal trial.

02:05:37.040 We have thousands of them every single day, every single day, and it's not representative.

02:05:41.400 This is the thing, you know, when, when they were making movies against the war on terror, 0.82

02:05:45.620 they would make movies in which American soldiers would rape like Iraqi women and things like that. 0.90

02:05:50.100 And their argument would always be, well, this really happened. 0.94

02:05:53.040 And you'd think, okay, it really happened, but was it representative?

02:05:55.820 There were 200,000 troops over there.

02:05:57.340 One guy does a bad thing.

02:05:58.300 Is that representative of what the military is actually doing?

02:06:00.600 Is that the war story, the only war story you're going to tell?

02:06:03.160 This is the game the left is constantly playing now, right?

02:06:05.300 Which is they take a piece of anecdotal data.

02:06:07.960 It doesn't even have to back really what they're saying.

02:06:10.940 And then they just spin it into whatever they want it to be.

02:06:12.680 And then they say, this piece of anecdotal data is evidence of the entire system, right?

02:06:16.920 This is, by the way, is every Ta-Nehisi Coates column for the last 10 years, right?

02:06:19.820 Here's something bad that happened in 1890 in Tuscaloosa.

02:06:22.540 And it was really, really bad.

02:06:23.900 And now if you fast forward 130 years, nothing has changed.

02:06:26.800 And you're like, well, some things happened between 1890 and now.

02:06:30.380 A few things happened, it seems like.

02:06:32.740 I even love this on the alt-right when they're like, what about the USS Liberty being bombed by the Israelis in the 1960s?

02:06:39.740 Yeah, what about the British burning down the White House?

02:06:42.560 What are we talking about?

02:06:44.180 When you don't provide any data, there was a wonderful piece.

02:06:48.140 And when I say wonderful, I mean horrific piece in the Washington Post by a columnist.

02:06:52.100 And there was one line in it that just struck me forcibly.

02:06:55.240 She was talking about how she feels as a black woman in America dealing with the police and looking at all these tapes.

02:07:00.080 And she was talking about how terrifying it is to deal with the police and the threat of the police.

02:07:05.140 She didn't have any actual anecdotal even experiences personally with her bad experiences with the police.

02:07:09.660 But at one point she says, it would seem statistically that I'm more likely to be shot by a police officer than a crackhead.

02:07:18.100 Now, normally a sentence like that is followed by, you know, a statistic.

02:07:22.780 It would seem statistically.

02:07:24.140 I mean, the word statistically usually conveys some sort of statistical information.

02:07:27.620 No, it was just the end of a parenthesis, move on with the story.

02:07:30.580 Because there is no statistic by which you are more likely to be shot by a cop than a crackhead. 0.98

02:07:35.140 Who said on Twitter this week a black person has a 50-50 shot? 0.98

02:07:38.580 Chelsea Handler.

02:07:39.100 Chelsea Handler said 50-50 shot of being shot by the cop.

02:07:41.300 Of course, there's no statistical reality there.

02:07:42.840 Some of this goes back to a book that's come up.

02:07:44.860 We've talked about it before on Backstage, Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self.

02:07:48.680 And he talks about the, you know, the birth of psychological man.

02:07:53.140 And that's what we are.

02:07:54.120 If something seems psychologically to be true, if it seems true to you, then that's all that matters.

02:07:59.320 The statistics don't play into it.

02:08:01.100 The terrible thing about that is that's what racists tell me, too.

02:08:05.020 When people who don't like black people will say to me, well, in my experience, this has happened and that's happened.

02:08:09.960 You go like, well, maybe that's not the whole world.

02:08:11.880 But they say the same thing.

02:08:12.800 It's my lived experience.

02:08:13.680 How can you argue with it?

02:08:14.280 You know, getting back, though, to the questioner, I do think we have to correct the questioner.

02:08:18.100 Because they said, well, why are the president and vice president making a statement now after the trial is over, after it doesn't matter?

02:08:24.500 The president and vice president made statements before the trial was over, too.

02:08:27.940 Joe Biden made one this week and obviously pressured the jury.

02:08:31.260 Joe Biden made a statement making it clear that he wanted a guilty verdict.

02:08:35.760 And a few hours later, the verdict came.

02:08:37.600 I'm not saying that those two things are necessarily connected, but I'm also not convinced that they're a coincidence.

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