7 years ago, Ben Shapiro, Caleb Robinson, and Jeremy Boring founded conservative media company The Daily Wire. Now, 7 years later, the company is making some major announcements, including a new documentary, a new sports podcast, and a new feature film.
01:03:32.860We want to see your hands, we want you to leave a little room for the Holy Spirit, we want
01:03:41.160you to stay right where we can see you until the big day, and then we want you to get busy
01:03:45.320making as many little Sergios and little Kalas as is humanly possible.
01:03:49.880You know, as the angel of love who brought this beautiful couple together, I mean, frankly, I can't think of a public figure more fitted to watch a wedding proposal, given my deep wellsprings of emotion, something I'm known for.
01:04:07.780And watching this, my heart grew three sizes that day.
01:04:21.780Now go buy some swag, go buy some drinks, go buy some popcorn.
01:04:29.440We're going to go to the back and use the restrooms because we've been up here for a long time, and we're going to see you in 15 minutes and tell you about the future.
01:04:36.440Welcome back to the comments section, I'm Brett Cooper.
01:06:14.100In our pitch meeting with the lowercase godk himself, he said verbatim, I don't get this show.
01:06:22.100It's not for me, but I know there's an audience for it.
01:06:27.100Clearly, he was right, as he usually is.
01:06:31.100He understood that this type of non-traditional content was the future for our movement.
01:06:37.100And for some crazy reason, he trusted me to lead it.
01:06:42.100Through the comments section, I am able to fill a void for people searching for a laid-back, common-sense perspective
01:06:55.100without the perverted values that are corrupting our society, to put it mildly.
01:07:01.100I actually had a comment that came up on one of my videos the other day that I wanted to share with you that I feel like highlights this well.
01:07:07.100A man said, I'm a liberal, but honestly, listening to some of your viewpoints has started to change my mind.
01:07:14.100I was pro-choice, but I am moving to be moderately pro-life, which I think is pretty cool.
01:07:28.100You see, the mainstream media has a very certain way that they portray reality in order to further their narratives.
01:07:35.100And it's usually not honest. Shocking.
01:07:39.100And I have found that people are a lot more reasonable than journalists would like us to think.
01:07:45.100People are waking up. And I see this in comments, but I also see this in my subscriber base,
01:07:50.100which, shockingly, is made up largely of disgruntled liberals and political moderates.
01:07:57.100They are craving content that is unafraid to stray from the popular prescribed narrative.
01:08:04.100Content that is in search of the truth.
01:08:07.100Therefore, I am so proud and I am so grateful to be backed by a company that takes risks and that is in the fight.
01:08:15.100And that truly never fails to go against the grain.
01:16:11.100What if instead of circulating white papers among the initiated, we actually tried to tell people about these ideas that we think are so important?
01:16:26.100And so we brought that attitude to The Daily Wire.
01:16:29.100We invested more in marketing than we invested in content in those early years.
01:16:34.100And if you know anything about how the actual culture is shaped, you know that Hollywood movies,
01:16:39.100the marketing budgets can cost as much or more than the films themselves.
01:19:11.100And in the middle of June in 2020, when the whole world was shut down, when no one was going to work, I read an article.
01:19:19.100I should have looked it up before I came out.
01:19:21.100I believe it was in Rolling Stone, but I could be wrong, which essentially said, it's time to move away from Law & Order SVU.
01:19:30.100And the reason was, it's time to stop watching Law & Order SVU, because even though it's about a badass female detective who takes down dirty male sex offenders,
01:19:42.100it promulgates the lie that some cops are good.
01:19:49.100And I thought a Hollywood in 2020, a Hollywood that will not make shows about good cops would be as if in 1960, Hollywood decided it couldn't make Westerns.
01:20:02.100They were literally turning on their bread and butter properties.
01:20:06.100They were literally turning on their audiences, not just having some disdain for their audience, which they've had for a long time, but actually trying to push their audience away.
01:20:15.100And Caleb and I were sitting in the office that day, and we realized we achieved our goal.
01:20:21.100We have the giant spotlight, the marketing spotlight, the audience spotlight that we can put on cultural content.
01:20:27.100We have the financial resources to begin, to begin making cultural content.
01:20:34.100But we had also built something by accident.
01:20:40.100We had built the ability to distribute cultural content, because we had built a piece of technology to allow people to subscribe in order to watch video versions of our podcasts.
01:20:54.100And that technology was agnostic as to what kind of content we actually put on it.
01:20:59.100And in that period of time, Dallas Sonier entered our lives.
01:21:09.100And Dallas said, hey guys, I've got a movie, and Hollywood ain't gonna touch it.
01:21:33.100And that movie was Run, Hide, Fight, which became the first feature film released by The Daily Wire.
01:21:43.100The movie paid for itself in less than a week, because conservatives are willing to support great content, and ain't nobody giving it to them.
01:21:54.100And that's when things started to change.
01:22:00.100The very nature of The Daily Wire began to change.
01:22:04.100We didn't start moving away from great news.
01:22:06.100We didn't start moving away from great opinion journalism.
01:22:10.100We didn't start moving away from commentary and analysis.
01:22:13.100We doubled down on all of those things.
01:22:15.100We started hiring investigative journalists.
01:22:17.100We started up-rezzing our editorial team.
01:22:20.100We started sending people like Luke Rosiak into the Virginia School Board.
01:22:32.100And we started helping Republican governors get elected in blue states.
01:22:37.100But we also started developing cultural content.
01:22:46.100And in the time in between, we've released, as you know, three more feature films, including one that I'm very proud of, and the entire cast is here tonight.
01:22:56.100Our most recent feature film, which allowed us to undo the damage done by Disney when they unjustly canceled Gina Carano, Terror on the Prairie.
01:28:28.100That means the money has to come from you.
01:28:30.100It means the people who empower this aren't going to be capital markets.
01:28:35.100It's not going to be fundraising from billionaires.
01:28:38.100It's not going to be fundraising from family offices.
01:28:40.100It's not going to be fundraising from family offices.
01:28:43.100It's going to be trading value to more and more and more subscribers so that we can keep
01:28:49.100creating more and more and more value, which we trade again for more and more and more
01:28:54.100subscribers, just like the way the left does it.
01:29:03.100If you watch one of our movies and you think, I mean, they didn't quite do everything that I want them to do.
01:29:10.100Yeah, it's like you've fallen for the lie that the new dad believes when he goes down to the gift shop at the hospital and buys himself a world's greatest dad ball cap.
01:31:59.100No one wants a great, like, Stranger Things type series brought to you by WAPO.
01:32:04.100And so, as we continue to grow, as we continue to expand, as we continue to create content outside of that initial box that we built seven years ago,
01:32:31.100People who don't agree with us on every issue, but who are our allies in the broader cultural battle, the broader battle for the ideas that it used to be that the vast majority of Americans shared.
01:32:41.100What's a brand that can contain movies, a brand that can contain TV series, a brand that can contain kids' content?
01:32:50.100And we decided the Daily Wire is just not enough.
01:32:53.100We need something beyond the Daily Wire.
01:32:55.100And that's why, tonight, I'm proud to announce that, as of this very moment, we are launching Daily Wire Plus.
01:33:17.100It's the Daily Wire, plus all of those other things.
01:33:21.100You know we've had some technology problems over the last 30 days.
01:33:28.100We launched Matt Walsh's seminal documentary, What is a Woman?, and were immediately brought under an enormous DDoS attack
01:33:35.100that I know made life for many of you very difficult in those first 24 or 48 hours trying to watch the film.
01:33:42.100A lot of people who wanted to subscribe couldn't.
01:33:44.100Worse, a lot of people were able to subscribe.
01:35:03.100So there's an unbelievable library of content.
01:35:06.100Most of it's at Disney, let's be honest.
01:35:08.100But it's not that the content isn't great.
01:35:10.100It's that you can't trust the platform.
01:35:12.100You can't put your kids in front of a classic piece of Disney content because you don't know that the very next thing that plays won't be that not-so-secret gay agenda that teaches your daughter that she's a boy.
01:35:24.100That's why we have to have Daily Wire Plus.
01:35:27.100And so we've already announced it, but I want to give you an update.
01:35:30.100On Daily Wire Plus in the spring of 2023, we will be rolling out our very first kids content, the stuff we promised you back in March.
01:35:38.100And here tonight, I have for you the first tiny taste, the first tiny teaser of our very first animated show, Chipchilla.
01:41:41.100Secularism is wonderful for government.
01:41:44.100It's wonderful for the sciences, and it's awful for the rest of life.
01:41:48.100And most conservatives don't know that.
01:41:52.100Many religious people don't know it, and certainly don't know how to make the case for it.
01:41:56.100But everything that we're seeing, all the chaos that we are seeing now is a result of the death of God and the Bible as the most important book in American life.
01:42:06.100And now I want to tell you, Ben doesn't know this, and I can't think of a more appropriate place to say this.
01:42:24.100It's a very touching, tiny little story.
01:44:19.100As I've said so often, if they really gave the Nobel Peace Prize to those who deserved it, the American Armed Forces would win it every year.
01:44:26.100So, Ben, the thought of doing this whole series of very intense, but obviously fascinating and even entertaining videos with you is one of the highlights of my life.
01:44:51.100Well, we obviously feel the same, and we are so excited to have you on board.
01:44:55.100Dennis, I feel like we've reached a point in American life, I would say five years ago, I may have been more pessimistic about where the country was than any time.
01:45:02.100And then during COVID, maybe even worse than that.
01:45:06.100And now, I've got to tell you, it feels like we're not seeing the actual light at the end of the tunnel, but it's starting to get a little lighter.
02:01:37.100So, you can try, but it's not that easy.
02:01:41.100And I don't think that we've been all that historically successful in doing so.
02:01:46.100But it's also a preposterous proposition because the expression of power within an intimate relationship does not produce intimacy or a relationship.
02:01:59.100The best it can produce is like a combination of tyranny and slavery.
02:02:03.100And that does not characterize the institution of marriage per se.
02:02:08.100So, there is this insistence among the radicals that power is the fundamental motivation.
02:02:15.100And then you think, too, okay, you're only motivated by power.
02:02:19.100That means that we can only get along if our interests align.
02:02:22.100Because if you're motivated by power, and I'm motivated by power, and our interests don't align, and there's nothing else but power,
02:02:29.100then the only option I have is to turn you into an enemy and try to destroy you.
02:02:43.100This is why it's a good thing for conservatives to understand.
02:02:45.100You have to understand that the debate about free speech on campus, in the deepest sense, is not a debate about who should be allowed to speak freely.
02:03:03.100But the debate is about something much deeper, which is whether or not the idea of free speech itself is just a mask developed essentially by Europeans to justify the oppressive patriarchy in the most devious possible way.
02:03:20.100And the answer the radicals have to that question is, yes, that's exactly what it is.
02:03:25.100And so, there's no free speech whatsoever.
02:03:28.100That's an illusion that's promulgated by people who are only trying to justify their claim to power.
02:03:34.100That's what the bloody argument is about.
02:03:44.100Even chimpanzees who have a patriarchal social structure, their social structures, if they are based on power, on compulsion, they're unstable.
02:03:58.100And the alpha chimps who use power are very likely to meet an extraordinarily brutal and premature end.
02:04:04.100So, Franz de Waal, the Dutch primatologist, has detailed out this wonderfully.
02:04:08.100He's shown that even among our closest biological relatives, it's the ability to make peace and to engage in reciprocal interactions that constitutes the basis for a stable polity.
02:04:20.100And it's obviously the case that that's the proper basis for social relations, especially among free people.
02:04:28.100And I've been trying to puzzle out, especially in my lecture to it recently, what the antithesis to power is, or to the will to power, let's say, in terms of arbitrary compulsion.
02:04:39.100And it's something like the spirit of free and voluntary play.
02:04:50.100So imagine this, is that if you structure your relations optimally, and I mean optimally, with yourself, with your intimate partner, with your family, with your community,
02:05:00.100the highest level of attainment of that structuring is the manifestation of the spirit of voluntary play.
02:05:07.100And that's so lovely, because there's nothing better than playing, fundamentally.
02:05:12.100And, you know, human beings, and other mammals as well, also have a biological circuit that mediates play.
02:05:18.100And that was discovered by a man named Jak Panksepp.
02:05:20.100And he showed that play is unbelievably important to the development of children for a variety of complicated reasons,
02:05:27.100partly because they're practicing to be competent adults, but also that it can be suppressed by almost any other emotion or motivation.
02:05:34.100So your kids can't really play if they're hungry or tired or wet or upset.
02:05:40.100The same would apply within your relationship.
02:05:42.100If there's stresses and tensions, the play disappears.
02:05:45.100But if you optimize the relationship and the circumstance, then the spirit of play can manifest itself.
02:05:51.100And I would also say that's also the fundamental purpose of fathers, in some sense, is to imagine that paradise, that's a walled garden.
02:06:00.100So it's walls, structure, and then the garden inside is nature, and a nature that's tended.
02:06:06.100That the masculine role in child rearing is something like the erection of the walls, so that play can manifest itself within the walls.
02:06:15.100And that's a real good combination of security, because that's what the walls are for, but then the kind of freedom that allows for untrammeled development to occur in the most positive possible sense.
02:06:26.100And so I would say that those of us who are standing against the radicals who insist that the only human motivation is power can impose that in part by putting forward the observation that the proper antithesis to that is the spirit of voluntary play.
02:06:42.100And that's what I hope we're going to do with the Daily Wire, right? Because that's what we've been doing.
02:06:47.100Well, as I say, folks, we could not be more pumped up and ecstatic about having Jordan Peterson here at Daily Wire Plus.
02:06:59.100Dragons, Monsters of Men is available right now at Daily Wire Plus.
02:07:01.100Jordan, you want to come join us here for the rest of backstage?
02:08:38.100This first question, I'm going to kick this first one to Drew because I actually know a very sad story that happened, Drew, in your own life along these lines.
02:08:47.100And the question is, how is it possible to remain friends with people while disagreeing with them vehemently, especially on black and white issues such as abortion?
02:08:56.100I think you could probably plug in any number of issues into that question.
02:09:01.100Strangely, I've never found it difficult to remain friends with people I deeply disagree with because I am not as interested in their disagreement as I am in their hearts and what's coming out of them.
02:09:10.100I know many, I have many close friends who I disagree with at a very deep level.
02:09:14.100But apparently this trait is not universally shared because I have lost many friends and I've lost relatives, people very dear to me, simply by my opinions.
02:09:23.100And I think the answer is quite simple.
02:09:26.100It's the basic Christian idea that another person's inner life is as important to him as yours is to you and both are equally important to God.
02:09:34.100And when you remember that, it's easy to let people disagree as long as you're willing to speak the truth back at them, whether they like it or not.
02:09:54.100Michael, I don't advocate for this, but assuming it can be done without packing the court fully in favor of one political leaning or another,
02:10:01.100is there any logic to more than nine justices?
02:10:05.100There have been other numbers of justices throughout the history of the United States, but the number has been settled at nine for a long time.
02:10:14.100And the last time that they tried to pack the court, it was done for nakedly partisan reasons.
02:10:19.100That was FDR who was trying to cram through his unconstitutional New Deal programs and the court was saying no to him.
02:10:27.100Now, we were able to avoid this constitutional crisis because the court eventually sort of just went along with the New Deal programs and it saved the nine justices.
02:10:36.100But it would be done not for a reason of government stability or better balancing out the three branches.
02:10:43.100It would be done in a nakedly partisan way.
02:10:46.100And then it's a never-ending arms race.
02:11:13.100In a world where women and men seem to be switching roles and the meaning of strong woman seems to be being warped, what do you think it means to be a strong woman?
02:11:20.100I think what it means to be a strong woman is to lean into your femininity, is to lean into your nature.
02:11:27.100I've never felt more sure in my life or on my own two feet more sure of who I am than when I got married and I started having children.
02:11:38.100You start to realize that nature, nature overrides everything.
02:11:42.100And I am trying to, in my best capacity, inspire women to recognize that before it's too late, before the curse,
02:11:50.100which Dennis and I have spoken about on his show and on my show, of rotten feminism, modern feminism, takes a hold of their life before it's too late.
02:11:59.100Because unfortunately, as women, we do have, you know, our bodies are a ticking bomb in terms of our fertility.
02:12:06.100And many women that grab onto these ideas when they're younger and believe that feminism is going to lead to happiness end up in the life of despair and sorrow,
02:12:14.100because they never leaned into their femininity and their nature.
02:12:17.100It is true. Men have a longer time horizon for coming out of the fog.
02:12:22.100I'm going to break my own rule because this question, I really want to hear everyone's thoughts on this particular question.
02:12:28.100On this stage, every single one of us is in a happy marriage, as far as I know.
02:12:42.100Andrea asks a question which I think a lot of people have absolutely no framework for because we live in an era of the collapse of marriage in our society.
02:12:53.100You know, the complete sort of breakdown of the family unit that you were describing a moment ago, Dr. Peterson.
02:12:59.100And so Andrea asks, what is the secret to a healthy and happy marriage?
02:13:03.100I think that's it's actually a very well composed question, a healthy and happy marriage.
02:13:12.100And it's possible she's here tonight if she hasn't gotten up and gone home.
02:13:21.100You know, I used to answer that it was simple politeness, treating each other with kindness.
02:13:27.100But then I realized what I was really saying is that it's gratitude.
02:13:31.100It is gratitude for the invisible things that your spouse does for you every single day and does for you simply by existing and including her and including him in your own achievements and in your own ego.
02:13:45.100My wife is as much a part of my ego as I am.
02:13:52.100And I think that takes time to establish and kindness and gratitude are the way to take that time until you're so much one entity that you just feel with each other and care so much for each other that you're there for one another when you need them.
02:14:20.100I think, look, I think that's a, I think, actually, to be honest, I was going to say gratitude.
02:14:37.100So I actually have nothing to say now.
02:14:39.100I think a big key to a healthy marriage is to root out the spirit of competition in a marriage because, or at least to channel it in a healthy way because a lot of times, especially when you bring kids into the mix, you get into this competitive thing where it's like, well, I did this around the house and I was up with the kid, you know, in the middle of the night for X amount of hours and you're not doing this.
02:15:04.100And you've got this scorecard, you're keeping score all the time.
02:15:08.100And that's why I think it's so toxic these days when you hear from people that, well, a marriage is supposed to be 50-50, you know, it'd be 50-50 equal partners.
02:15:17.100And that's exactly the wrong approach because then you're always measuring, well, I'm at 49 right now and you're at 51.
02:15:22.100No, you both just give of yourselves 100% and you don't worry about competition.
02:15:28.100And you channel the competition through board games in your marriage.
02:15:39.100You take the board games very seriously.
02:15:42.100My wife and I have just gone to bed angry at each other because of board games before.
02:27:57.100Yes, if your husband is a good man, if you respect him, if he treats you beautifully, then don't only allow your mood to determine whether you sleep with him.
02:28:43.100So one of the practices that my wife and I have that really helped us a tremendous amount more recently, when we were both recovering from very serious illnesses, is we had instituted a policy of regular dates.
02:29:00.100And probably 25 years ago, maybe longer.
02:29:30.100Because it's not, when you're exhausted with kids, when you're, when you've worked all day, you know, and you're kind of up to here and you're tired, it's easy to drop your, the intimate part of your marriage to number 11 on a list of 10 priorities.
02:29:46.100And then, that's just not a good long-term strategy.
02:29:50.100And so, when you're an adult with adult responsibilities, you have to carve out the time and you have to make a willful effort.
02:29:57.100And, as Dennis just pointed out, that's way too important to have it depend on something like unpredictable and arbitrary whim.
02:30:05.100And on both, on the part of both partners.
02:30:10.100Could I, uh, the rules have totally broken down, so can I talk again?
02:30:18.100After listening, I just want to give one other, because after listening to all this, I feel like, um, my answer should be more sexist, like the rest of you.
02:30:26.100So, there's, there's one other thing I think, I think is really important is, and this is advice to men in particular in marriage, and that is to stop bitching, okay?
02:30:44.100Um, but I, I think, I think, you guys opened the floodgates, so I'm just, I'm just jumping in.
02:30:54.100I think, uh, we've lost, we've lost the sense of stoicism in men completely in marriages, and so now, because we encourage men to, you know, be very open about your emotions, and, and what that ends up happening is that you just, like, dump all of this stuff onto your wife all the time, everything that you're worrying about, everything you're thinking about, and the idea that a man would just shoulder something in silence is, is, uh, it's considered, you know, offensive.
02:31:19.100No, you'd have to be open about your feelings.
02:31:21.100One of my, um, favorite stories in the Gulag Archipelago, uh, soldier Houston.
02:32:08.100The point I'm trying to make is, uh, he's, he's sentenced to, to dying, and, and, and, but he wants to see his wife one last time.
02:32:17.100And so, uh, the prison guards tell him that, yeah, we can send your wife to come see you, but the deal is you can't tell her what's about to happen to you.
02:32:27.100Because if you tell her that, then, you know, then maybe she ends up getting shot, too.
02:32:31.100Um, so he spends three days with his wife, just walking around this prison camp, and, uh, never tells her what's about to happen to him.
02:32:40.100He just spends time with her and shoulders this burden entirely on his own.
02:32:46.100And then as soon as she is sailing away on the ship, uh, he's, you know, undressing to go before the firing line.
02:32:52.100You compare that to today when a man comes home, like, in tears.
02:32:56.100What's wrong? I stubbed my toe! And, you know, and it's, it's just, uh, there's quite a contrast there, I think.
02:33:01.100I, I, I agree that you need honesty in your marriage, absolutely.
02:33:08.100You need honesty in all of your relationships, including your relationship with yourself, which is where most of the real lies happen in the world.
02:33:16.100But I think that, kind of to your point, Matt, I think that there's a difference between honesty as an, as a general statement and honesty in the specifics.
02:33:26.100So, for example, I believe that the fantasy of marriage is part of what destroys so many marriages in the modern age.
02:33:33.100I don't want to live in a fantasy relationship with my wife, I want to live in a very real relationship with my wife.
02:33:38.100And so I don't want my wife, for example, to think a bunch of fanciful things about the foundations of our marriage.
02:33:44.100I don't want her to think, I think you're the most beautiful woman in the world.
02:33:48.100I mean, Mila Kunis exists, and my wife knows that Mila Kunis exists.
02:33:52.100I don't believe my wife selected me on the basis that I'm the most beautiful man in the world.
02:34:01.100In some ways, believing in those sort of fanciful notions actually diminishes the value of the choice that we make in selecting our spouse.
02:34:10.100And so I want my wife to know very, very truthfully what a man is, distinct from what a woman is, what the burdens of a man are, very distinct from what the burdens of a woman are.
02:34:23.100I don't want her to live in an illusion, and I don't want to live in an illusion, but I don't tell her every time that I think a waitress is hot.
02:34:31.100That's a very specific piece of information that is my burden to carry.
02:34:35.100I don't want her to think that I don't think waitresses are hot, right?
02:34:43.100I don't want her to think that men are the same as women or that I'm better than I am, but I also don't want to burden her with all the particulars.
02:34:51.100And I think that's kind of part of what you're saying is that we do have to carry part of this.
02:34:56.100I have a lot to say on the topic of marriage.
02:34:58.100You know, I've had the honor of officiating two dozen or more weddings, some for people who are here, people who are very dear to me, lifelong friends.
02:35:06.100I got to pastor a church for many, many years in Los Angeles.
02:35:11.100Even our friend, Laurel, who's here today, I had the honor of marrying her to her husband.
02:35:19.100And so I've had the opportunity to think a lot about if you're going to take on the responsibility of officiating a wedding,
02:35:25.100you have an obligation to try to impart some pieces of wisdom to people before you do it.
02:35:30.100And a lot of it's very practical. Don't go tit for tat. Don't keep score.
02:35:34.100You know, you have to give each other the right to criticize one another.
02:35:38.100You can't navigate 40, 50, 60 years of life with someone who has no opportunity to criticize you.
02:35:43.100Men and women are different. You're going to have different needs.
02:35:46.100Don't try to place your reactions to something on them as though they mean what it would mean if you did the very same thing.
02:35:55.100I mean, these are very practical and I think very important, but there's a very spiritual component to it as well.
02:36:00.100And obviously the Bible has a great deal to say about it, but you can live in Ephesians for a long time talking about marriage.
02:36:05.100But there's a different idea that I'd like to leave the conversation with, which is that at the end of the day,
02:36:11.100and this is less directly stated in the Bible, but indirectly many, many times stated in the Bible,
02:36:16.100you have no real power over any other human being.
02:36:21.100If you do, you don't, it's not a God-given power. You have no right to the power that you have over them.
02:36:27.100You certainly can't change anyone for the better through coercion.
02:36:31.100You can't make someone what you want them to be.
02:36:34.100And yet there is a paradox which says in any meaningful relationship, if you work on fulfilling your role to the best of your ability and beyond,
02:36:45.100if you work on bettering yourself, if you work on putting into a relationship all that you can,
02:36:50.100it's not a recipe that says if you do this, it will change them.
02:36:55.100In fact, if you pursue it on that basis, it almost certainly will not work.
02:36:59.100The paradox is if you pursue it simply because it is the right thing to do, it has some mystical effect on the other.
02:37:05.100It's almost as though there's a God and he knows the heart of man,
02:37:08.100and he knows the difference between things that are motivated out of the good and things that are motivated out of only the selfish.
02:37:14.100And when you pursue being the best husband that you can be, it creates in your wife at least the opportunity for her to be the best wife that she can be.
02:37:22.100When you are the best wife that you can be, it creates in your husband the opportunity to be the best husband that he can be.
02:38:05.100I think this is working very well for us.
02:38:07.100I think we can just try cross talking and see what happens at this point.
02:38:10.100Obviously, a lot of people want to know politically what's happening in the country.
02:38:13.100What do we expect to happen during the midterms and beyond?
02:38:17.100I don't want to dwell on politics very long because they're boring and anything we say isn't what will happen because of chaos.
02:38:22.100And the thing that you don't know about the world if you haven't read the Bible is that people are terrible and you can't predict anything.
02:38:27.100But generally speaking, what do we all think is on the horizon?
02:38:31.100Definitely the collapse of Black Lives Matter narrative.
02:38:40.100There's a lot of narratives that seem to be collapsing and falling apart.
02:38:43.100And I think time has been on the conservative side for sure.
02:38:47.100And bizarrely, I think that the COVID lockdowns helped in a bizarre way in terms of all of the arguments that we were making.
02:38:55.100I think people thought we were being hyperbolic about the government, about the extreme governance, about they're coming after your children.
02:39:05.100So I've been extremely optimistic about the direction that the country is going into because of that, because I've been gaining followers where I don't expect them.
02:39:13.100I think people are realizing how little things like when you're complaining about inflation at the supermarket, they're realizing, wait a second, I don't even know how to grow my food.
02:39:23.100Everyone knows I'm very into gardening right now.
02:39:27.100I don't know how to, you know, do things for my family and for myself.
02:39:31.100We've all, in a sense, been welfare recipients in my mind.
02:39:34.100And because of the tragedy of the Biden administration, I think people are waking up and the tragedy of COVID policy all around the world globally, there seems to be an awakening.
02:39:46.100And I always like to leave people with that optimism because things can seem really dreary and can seem really gloomy.
02:39:52.100But even in terms of a Biden presidency, I say that God had his hand on that.
02:39:56.100We needed that to happen in order for there to be this proliferation of people waking up and saying, OK, wait, enough is enough.
02:40:04.100I made the mistake of looking at my watch.
02:40:08.100I made the mistake of looking at my watch.
02:40:10.100I'm not going to ask you guys any more questions, but I am going to use my prerogative to ask one that didn't come from the audience.
02:40:15.100And I'm going to ask it, Dr. Peterson, of you.
02:40:17.100We've lived through over the last few years in this country and in your home country as well, a very open hostility from our governments against us with the COVID lockdowns, with so many of the policies that were sort of justified.
02:40:33.100I don't like it when people say, oh, I work from home because of COVID.
02:40:36.100Well, it's not because of COVID that you work from home.
02:40:38.100It's because of bureaucrats and politicians who determined that their reaction to COVID would be these various things.
02:40:45.100And so I think a lot of Americans are seeing the world in a different way than they ever have.
02:40:50.100But you, uniquely of anyone on this stage, have had your government come against you personally, not in the broad sense that we've all been enduring it.
02:40:59.100But you've really been targeted, it seems to me, by the Canadian government in a way that's very specific and very particular.
02:41:07.100And yet you continue to live a lot of your life in Toronto.
02:41:10.100I'm sure that you're, you know, you have, you have deep relationships in Toronto.
02:41:16.100How do you, how does one make the decision to stay and fight versus, I mean, you can go anywhere in the world that you want to go.
02:41:23.100You're well traveled, you're, you're affluent, you've been successful.
02:41:28.100How do you make the decision to stay and stand against those forces when they've, when they've turned their guns directly on you?
02:41:34.100Well, I think in some ways I haven't made the decision to stay.
02:44:29.100And I'm working avidly with conservatives in Canada to rid our country of the plague that its governance currently represents.
02:44:43.100So, and, and I should also, I should also point out there is not a chance in the world that Trudeau is going to last more than three more years.
02:44:56.100Dr. Peterson, thank you for being with us tonight.
02:45:06.100Dennis, thank you so much for making the trip.
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