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00:00:00.000 Hi, everyone. It's Matt Walsh. You're about to listen to a very special Daily Wire backstage

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00:00:08.960 Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan, and Candace Owens talk about

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00:00:22.500 Seven years ago today, Ben Shapiro signed his agreement with what is now Bent Key Ventures.

00:00:27.700 Joining Jeremy Boring and Caleb Robinson in founding conservative media company The Daily Wire.

00:00:39.280 Now, seven years later, The Daily Wire is making some major announcements.

00:00:44.820 I'm Daily Wire Editor-in-Chief John Bickley with Georgia Howe. It's June 29th, and this is Morning Wire.

00:00:57.700 Within months of launching in 2015, The Daily Wire was the fastest-growing conservative news site

00:01:05.360 in the nation, and The Ben Shapiro Show was the largest conservative podcast in the world.

00:01:14.160 Since 2015, Daily Wire has launched a number of new shows, podcasts, and original series,

00:01:20.240 including the ensemble show, Daily Wire Backstage.

00:01:24.360 The tumultuous year of 2020 saw that Daily Wire take some massive steps forward

00:01:29.320 and make some bold promises.

00:01:31.740 Candace Owens was coming on board.

00:01:38.620 The news site would hire a team of investigative journalists.

00:01:42.040 And the company would be producing original feature films.

00:01:54.400 In July 2021, The Daily Wire launched a new audio podcast, which quickly climbed the charts

00:02:00.080 to become this top 10 news show, Morning Wire.

00:02:04.940 Also in 2021, The Daily Wire took on the most powerful government on the planet,

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00:02:46.720 This year has been jam-packed for The Daily Wire.

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00:03:04.160 And on June 1st, The Daily Wire released what would become the most-watched documentary of the year.

00:03:11.080 A documentary starring Matt Walsh that asked the pressing question of the time,

00:03:17.100 what is a woman? 1.00

00:03:19.720 And today, The Daily Wire is poised to make even more blockbuster announcements.

00:03:34.280 Well, Georgia, I think that about does it.

00:03:36.760 No, John, I think you missed some lines.

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00:05:20.900 Welcome to Backstage Live!

00:05:37.960 We're so happy to be back at the historic Ryman Auditorium in Nashville, Tennessee, our new hometown.

00:05:42.500 As Georgia and John said,

00:05:49.820 today is actually, to the day,

00:05:51.400 the seven-year anniversary of the forming of the company.

00:06:00.060 It seems like a hell of a day to celebrate,

00:06:02.060 and we're glad to be celebrating it with you guys.

00:06:06.120 There's so many familiar faces out there in the audience today.

00:06:09.160 Our family, so many of our friends,

00:06:10.960 even some of our most famous superfans,

00:06:13.080 who, unlike normal groupies, will never have sex with us.

00:06:19.240 And instead, they try to convert all of those of us

00:06:21.820 who aren't already no good papists to the Roman church.

00:06:27.840 They denounce the lack of modesty in our feature films.

00:06:30.400 And they get into theological arguments with us on Twitter.

00:06:36.360 We picked the wrong line of work.

00:06:38.520 It's like, absolutely failed.

00:06:40.860 At least the women we're not sleeping with are actual women, 1.00

00:06:43.600 so we have that in there.

00:06:44.340 Wait, isn't that guy, the guy from that documentary,

00:06:53.000 like the biggest documentary of 2022,

00:06:54.920 What is a Woman, right? 1.00

00:06:55.700 Yeah, I'm still just embarrassed.

00:07:11.100 I went all the way to Africa,

00:07:12.160 and I could have just went to the kitchen and talked to my wife. 0.99

00:07:14.100 So that's humiliating.

00:07:17.560 We have so much to talk to you guys about.

00:07:19.440 It's going to be a different show

00:07:20.620 than the last time that we were here

00:07:21.860 because since it's our seven-year anniversary,

00:07:23.920 we feel like we need to have some special guests,

00:07:25.820 and we feel like we need to make some special announcements.

00:07:28.360 And that's exactly what we're going to do

00:07:29.680 during the second half of the show.

00:07:31.620 But to kick it off,

00:07:33.720 of course, we have to talk about the only story

00:07:35.720 that matters in the world today.

00:07:37.580 Roe v. Wade has been aborted.

00:07:39.200 Thank you.

00:07:53.920 Roe v. Wade has been aborted,

00:07:56.400 and it's the greatest political moment of my lifetime,

00:08:00.240 and I think maybe the greatest political moment

00:08:02.280 since the Second World War in this country.

00:08:05.080 Unfortunately, according to the new rules

00:08:08.380 of the culture in which we live, 0.81

00:08:10.700 five cisgender white dudes 0.59

00:08:12.500 aren't allowed to actually have a conversation

00:08:14.640 about a ruling that was made by nine cisgender white dudes

00:08:18.100 back in the 1970s.

00:08:19.200 So to lend a little bit of credibility to our conversation,

00:08:24.340 I thought we'd bring out someone who's nine months pregnant. 0.52

00:08:26.480 Thank you.

00:08:49.200 We weren't sure that Candace would be able to join us

00:08:59.000 when we started selling tickets to the show

00:09:00.400 because her baby is due right now.

00:09:06.420 I'm so happy that I was able to make it.

00:09:08.120 We were kind of like,

00:09:08.840 I don't know if I'm going to be giving birth.

00:09:10.820 Maybe I'll give birth on stage,

00:09:12.140 but I'm definitely not missing it.

00:09:14.800 It would be great TV.

00:09:16.180 Yeah, it would be really great TV.

00:09:17.540 Can I just say,

00:09:19.520 you've almost moved me literally off the edge of the stage.

00:09:23.060 Candace, I feel a little offended by that.

00:09:27.660 Roe is gone.

00:09:29.800 Unbelievable political moment.

00:09:31.260 Ben, tell us what we're supposed to think.

00:09:33.780 I mean, what we're supposed to think.

00:09:37.160 I mean, there's so much to say.

00:09:38.600 It's the greatest pro-life victory, obviously, in 50 years.

00:09:41.460 And really, it's when the battle begins

00:09:42.800 because the battle was just to get enough seats

00:09:46.120 on the Supreme Court to actually overturn Roe

00:09:48.220 so we could actually do all this.

00:09:49.200 And for this, we have to thank

00:09:50.300 President Donald J. Trump.

00:09:51.640 Yeah.

00:10:01.100 I mean, listen,

00:10:01.940 I had real doubts about President Trump

00:10:03.900 when he was candidate Trump.

00:10:05.100 The minute he selected Justice Gorsuch,

00:10:06.660 on air, I put a MAGA hat on.

00:10:08.080 And that's because what he did here

00:10:09.960 by filling three seats on the Supreme Court

00:10:12.560 turned this thing.

00:10:13.680 I never thought in my life,

00:10:14.560 I really did not think in my lifetime

00:10:15.760 we were going to see Roe versus Wade overturned.

00:10:17.300 And now we've seen Roe versus Wade overturned.

00:10:18.860 And that provides an opportunity

00:10:19.960 not just for those of us

00:10:21.380 who are new residents of red states

00:10:22.800 and those of us who have been here for a while

00:10:24.700 to actually save the lives of the unborn,

00:10:27.300 but also to push forward an agenda

00:10:28.980 in all the states

00:10:30.240 that is going to save the lives of the preborns.

00:10:31.780 The battle really is taken up right now.

00:10:34.680 One more thought on this,

00:10:35.700 and then I want to get everybody else in.

00:10:37.680 But I think that what's amazing

00:10:40.040 is to watch the media propagandize

00:10:41.900 on behalf of abortion

00:10:43.440 and really demonstrate full-fledged

00:10:45.440 their moral colors.

00:10:46.600 Because for them, abortion is a sacrament.

00:10:48.580 This is not about anything except for the idea

00:10:50.940 that a woman cannot be a woman 1.00

00:10:52.480 unless she has the capacity 1.00

00:10:53.860 to kill her preborn child. 1.00

00:10:55.560 And I do not think most Americans think that way. 0.99

00:10:57.800 I think the left thinks

00:10:58.500 that this is going to be a culture war moment

00:11:00.120 that is going to cut in their favor.

00:11:01.700 That Roe versus Wade, 0.91

00:11:02.360 people didn't want it overturned.

00:11:03.520 People wanted the right to abortion 0.97

00:11:05.480 across the board.

00:11:06.520 And so they're pushing as hard

00:11:07.580 as they can right now.

00:11:08.320 And it's really ugly.

00:11:09.340 Their arguments are really morally ugly.

00:11:10.880 And I think most Americans can see that.

00:11:12.680 And just like they have

00:11:13.340 with every other issue in the culture,

00:11:14.740 I think that they are sowing the seeds

00:11:16.120 of their own destruction right now.

00:11:17.500 I agree.

00:11:19.780 Totally agree.

00:11:20.680 You know,

00:11:21.100 this win

00:11:22.920 has a real political lesson

00:11:25.000 for conservatives.

00:11:26.300 I'm like you, Ben.

00:11:27.640 I did not think

00:11:28.660 that I would see Roe versus Wade

00:11:30.220 overruled in my lifetime.

00:11:31.600 In just the past, what,

00:11:33.620 two weeks,

00:11:34.440 we've gotten a defense

00:11:35.600 of the Second Amendment

00:11:36.460 in New York.

00:11:37.380 That's right.

00:11:38.160 We've gotten a defense

00:11:39.460 of Christian schools.

00:11:40.980 We've gotten a defense

00:11:41.940 of religious liberty

00:11:42.840 in high schools.

00:11:43.580 We've gotten the overruling

00:11:44.780 of Roe versus Wade.

00:11:46.060 This is not the moment

00:11:47.620 to go weak.

00:11:48.540 This is not the moment

00:11:49.500 to squish.

00:11:50.380 We've got to push forward.

00:11:51.860 We're winning in Virginia.

00:11:53.280 We're winning in Florida.

00:11:54.560 We're winning all over this country.

00:11:57.520 Now is the moment

00:11:58.620 to push full speed ahead.

00:12:04.820 I mean,

00:12:05.420 you hate to see the left,

00:12:06.540 you know,

00:12:06.880 all down and out.

00:12:08.020 That's sad, isn't it?

00:12:08.480 But even more,

00:12:11.260 you hate for Michael

00:12:11.920 to make such a great point

00:12:13.000 and for people to beat him.

00:12:15.400 He's so happy.

00:12:16.780 Yeah,

00:12:17.040 it is really clarifying, too,

00:12:19.660 like you point out, Ben,

00:12:20.840 because it's this line

00:12:22.900 of distinction

00:12:23.400 that's being drawn,

00:12:24.480 and you've got one side

00:12:26.040 that's upset

00:12:27.100 that more babies

00:12:28.640 are going to live,

00:12:30.200 and then you've got

00:12:30.480 another side

00:12:30.800 that's happy

00:12:31.200 that they're going to live.

00:12:32.240 And also,

00:12:32.820 they're kind of revealing

00:12:33.760 some things that they said

00:12:35.720 that were total nonsense.

00:12:36.520 Like, for example,

00:12:37.600 we're hearing in the media

00:12:38.500 all these lamentations

00:12:40.120 about abortion clinics closing.

00:12:41.720 Planned Parenthood clinics

00:12:42.360 are closing all over the country.

00:12:43.680 We're supposed to be upset

00:12:44.400 about that.

00:12:44.800 Of course,

00:12:45.080 it's like,

00:12:45.460 I couldn't be happier

00:12:46.200 to see those people unemployed.

00:12:48.400 But also,

00:12:48.940 I thought they said

00:12:52.180 that abortion 1.00

00:12:52.840 was only 3%

00:12:53.800 of what Planned Parenthood does.

00:12:54.900 So, why would Roe

00:12:57.720 being overturned

00:12:58.900 mean that

00:13:00.340 it doesn't make any sense?

00:13:02.740 Well, here's one for you, Matt.

00:13:04.120 I mean,

00:13:04.820 as the person

00:13:05.720 who has most asked

00:13:06.700 the question,

00:13:07.200 what is a woman, 1.00

00:13:07.680 remember that time

00:13:08.400 when trans men

00:13:11.060 had babies, too?

00:13:12.220 And then,

00:13:12.920 literally,

00:13:13.420 the minute that Roe

00:13:14.160 was overturned,

00:13:14.740 it turned into,

00:13:15.240 this is an attack

00:13:15.980 on women. 0.95

00:13:16.540 I thought it was

00:13:17.140 an attack

00:13:17.500 on birthing people.

00:13:18.780 Yeah, exactly.

00:13:19.260 And on womb holders.

00:13:20.640 Can I just say,

00:13:21.660 Kamala Harris

00:13:22.440 gave an interview

00:13:23.560 the other day.

00:13:24.000 Camille.

00:13:24.680 Where she,

00:13:25.620 where she,

00:13:28.020 she went on

00:13:30.080 and on and on

00:13:30.660 about how this

00:13:31.120 was an attack

00:13:31.640 on women. 0.95

00:13:32.320 And it's honestly

00:13:33.100 the most transphobic rant

00:13:35.160 I've ever heard

00:13:36.040 in the White House.

00:13:37.560 I was shocked by it.

00:13:38.940 So, Candace,

00:13:40.040 I know you were still

00:13:40.780 trying to decide

00:13:41.440 whether or not

00:13:41.840 to bring your child

00:13:42.500 to term.

00:13:45.100 You know,

00:13:45.780 it is funny

00:13:46.760 because it was surreal

00:13:48.220 to hear the arguments

00:13:49.440 that they were making

00:13:50.160 when you're actually

00:13:51.660 getting prepared

00:13:52.240 to give birth.

00:13:52.800 Like, it became

00:13:53.260 super surreal

00:13:54.000 to hear them saying,

00:13:55.200 it's not a life,

00:13:55.940 it's not a life.

00:13:56.600 And at that moment,

00:13:57.240 I think what it really

00:13:57.900 demonstrated was that

00:13:59.160 in America,

00:13:59.540 we're not debating abortion.

00:14:00.860 We've never been

00:14:01.420 debating abortion.

00:14:02.300 When it first got started,

00:14:03.240 we were debating

00:14:03.700 eugenicism because

00:14:04.980 Margaret Sanger

00:14:05.560 was a eugenicist

00:14:06.520 and you can look

00:14:07.820 plenty into her history.

00:14:09.000 There's no doubt

00:14:09.640 that what they really

00:14:10.460 set out to do

00:14:10.980 at Planned Parenthood

00:14:11.760 was to get rid

00:14:12.540 of the undesirables

00:14:13.500 in society.

00:14:14.800 But now we've

00:14:15.460 kind of fast forwarded

00:14:16.320 and we're talking

00:14:17.040 about child sacrifice.

00:14:18.640 And it's really interesting

00:14:19.540 because when I talk

00:14:20.420 to my husband

00:14:20.900 about this,

00:14:21.460 it's very,

00:14:22.140 because obviously

00:14:22.800 he's English,

00:14:23.800 but when we have

00:14:25.160 these discussions,

00:14:25.720 he's so shocked

00:14:26.560 at American women,

00:14:27.800 right?

00:14:28.240 These women 0.99

00:14:28.700 that are screaming

00:14:29.440 outside of the

00:14:31.400 Supreme Court house

00:14:32.160 and they're pregnant 0.95

00:14:33.420 and they say

00:14:33.880 still not a baby.

00:14:35.100 I feel my child

00:14:35.960 kicking every second

00:14:37.440 of the day, right?

00:14:38.380 It's bizarre to me

00:14:39.540 to hear them say

00:14:40.300 this is not a life

00:14:41.140 and this is something

00:14:41.680 that should be

00:14:42.280 ripped out of your room

00:14:43.280 up until nine months

00:14:44.460 if you want that.

00:14:46.060 So there's something

00:14:46.720 much more demonic,

00:14:47.920 much more satanic

00:14:48.820 going on.

00:14:49.740 And the good news

00:14:50.940 is that it does

00:14:51.580 contribute to our side

00:14:52.700 because the pendulum

00:14:53.360 has swung so far left

00:14:55.000 people are going,

00:14:55.880 listen, I used to be

00:14:57.140 pro-choice,

00:14:57.920 but I cannot support

00:14:58.840 what you guys

00:14:59.280 are talking about.

00:15:00.320 And so I think

00:15:00.720 that's what we're

00:15:01.200 seeing in America

00:15:01.880 is that the left

00:15:02.480 has gone so crazy

00:15:03.540 that we're getting,

00:15:05.660 you know,

00:15:05.940 we're gaining

00:15:06.280 a bunch of wins.

00:15:11.300 To me,

00:15:12.280 I have to say,

00:15:14.260 I know there are

00:15:14.980 fights ahead

00:15:15.560 and arguments ahead

00:15:16.360 and I know there's

00:15:17.060 going to still

00:15:17.660 be abortion 0.95

00:15:18.120 in this country.

00:15:19.480 There's a huge

00:15:20.920 essential difference

00:15:21.940 between a country

00:15:22.680 where evil things

00:15:23.840 happen and a country

00:15:24.920 where they tell you

00:15:25.580 it's your right

00:15:26.400 to do an evil thing.

00:15:27.940 When you say,

00:15:28.380 it's just like Dred Scott,

00:15:29.820 when they tell you

00:15:30.560 you have a right

00:15:31.280 to do this evil thing,

00:15:32.900 you dehumanize

00:15:33.880 an entire segment

00:15:34.780 of the population,

00:15:36.280 in this case,

00:15:36.880 babies who already

00:15:37.780 don't have a voice.

00:15:39.200 And I think back

00:15:39.920 to that abortion video

00:15:41.480 we made with Satan

00:15:42.340 in it where you

00:15:42.820 turned in your

00:15:43.360 Oscar-worthy performance

00:15:45.720 as a baby,

00:15:46.720 screaming,

00:15:47.500 of course I'm

00:15:48.180 a human being,

00:15:49.080 look at me,

00:15:49.940 you know?

00:15:50.400 And I think you

00:15:51.000 take that voice

00:15:51.700 away from people

00:15:52.360 when you say,

00:15:53.240 not that there's

00:15:53.700 going to be evil,

00:15:54.520 but you have a right

00:15:55.220 to do that evil.

00:15:56.180 And I think this

00:15:56.740 is a huge win

00:15:58.140 and our country

00:15:58.920 is an actual

00:15:59.940 better country

00:16:00.760 right this minute

00:16:01.700 than it was

00:16:02.260 a week ago.

00:16:02.700 Yeah.

00:16:05.960 There's something

00:16:07.080 really important,

00:16:11.060 I think,

00:16:11.340 to be noted

00:16:12.060 about the dissent

00:16:12.800 in the case.

00:16:13.400 And there's a lot

00:16:13.900 that's really interesting

00:16:14.640 legally speaking

00:16:15.300 because the truth

00:16:15.860 is that Clarence Thomas

00:16:16.620 is right about everything,

00:16:17.780 as always.

00:16:18.340 Clarence Thomas

00:16:18.780 is the best justice,

00:16:19.580 he's always been

00:16:20.020 the best justice.

00:16:23.480 So the left

00:16:24.020 has suggested

00:16:24.520 it's a really extreme

00:16:25.580 ruling by a right-wing court.

00:16:27.160 If it really were

00:16:27.680 an extreme ruling

00:16:28.220 by a right-wing court,

00:16:28.840 they would have read

00:16:29.360 Life of the Unborn

00:16:30.560 into the 14th Amendment

00:16:31.420 and they actually

00:16:32.120 would have affirmatively

00:16:32.780 said that they have

00:16:33.620 a right to life

00:16:34.500 in the Constitution,

00:16:35.620 right?

00:16:35.720 They didn't do that.

00:16:36.640 The dissent,

00:16:37.440 however,

00:16:37.700 is what I really

00:16:38.860 focused in on

00:16:39.440 because when I was

00:16:40.600 growing up in the 90s,

00:16:42.100 not all that long ago,

00:16:43.040 the line from the Democrats

00:16:44.140 was safe, legal, and rare.

00:16:45.700 That was the line.

00:16:46.500 It didn't make

00:16:46.980 any logical sense

00:16:47.840 that you'd want it

00:16:48.360 to be safe, legal, and rare

00:16:49.380 because if the idea

00:16:50.020 is that it's okay,

00:16:51.020 then why would you

00:16:51.360 want it to be rare?

00:16:52.900 But the argument

00:16:54.300 was sort of

00:16:55.200 emotionally resonant.

00:16:56.280 It's like,

00:16:56.500 oh, we don't like abortion,

00:16:58.180 but people have

00:16:59.100 to have them, right?

00:16:59.980 That actually has

00:17:00.940 some level

00:17:01.880 of baseline emotional resonance

00:17:03.600 for a lot of Americans.

00:17:04.720 Now Democrats

00:17:05.440 have fallen into

00:17:06.180 the shout-your-abortion movement,

00:17:07.540 celebrate-your-abortion.

00:17:08.420 It's a sacrament.

00:17:09.340 It's something good.

00:17:10.020 It's an active good

00:17:10.980 to do abortion. 0.69

00:17:12.120 And not just that.

00:17:12.840 If you look at the actual opinion

00:17:14.000 in Roe v. Wade,

00:17:14.760 Roe v. Wade is written

00:17:15.580 on the basis

00:17:16.040 of a phantom right to privacy, right?

00:17:17.480 They pick it up from Griswold

00:17:18.460 and then they move it forward

00:17:19.380 through a bunch of other cases

00:17:20.320 and they get to Roe

00:17:20.940 and they say

00:17:21.460 there's a right to privacy

00:17:22.380 that is an emanation

00:17:23.760 from a penumbra.

00:17:24.780 But the argument is

00:17:25.760 this is a private thing

00:17:26.760 that I'm doing

00:17:27.120 with my own body.

00:17:27.800 The argument of the dissent

00:17:28.880 in Dobbs

00:17:29.840 says that it's not

00:17:31.300 about privacy.

00:17:32.340 It says it's about

00:17:32.840 women's equality. 0.92

00:17:34.040 It says women cannot 1.00

00:17:34.900 achieve equality 1.00

00:17:35.800 without killing their babies.

00:17:37.440 And what they mean by this 0.99

00:17:38.460 is that women cannot be 1.00

00:17:39.880 as wildly sexually free 0.99

00:17:42.280 and promiscuous 0.94

00:17:43.200 and individualistic 0.96

00:17:44.200 about their sex lives

00:17:44.940 as they want to be

00:17:45.660 if biology is allowed

00:17:47.100 to take its course.

00:17:48.080 And this is how they talk

00:17:48.800 about pregnancy now, right?

00:17:49.700 The way they talk about pregnancy

00:17:50.640 is they treat it

00:17:51.240 as an imposition.

00:17:51.940 Pregnancy is an act of bad. 1.00

00:17:53.440 They have doctors on TV

00:17:54.400 to tell you that pregnancy

00:17:55.220 is less safe than abortion,

00:17:57.520 which is an argument

00:17:58.060 for sterilization.

00:17:59.460 I mean, that really

00:18:00.000 is what it is.

00:18:00.720 They make an argument.

00:18:01.720 They'll talk about how

00:18:02.520 pregnancy is some sort of,

00:18:04.920 you're forcing a woman 1.00

00:18:06.100 to bear a child,

00:18:07.200 forcing a woman. 0.76

00:18:07.820 No, that's called biology

00:18:08.700 that's forcing a woman 1.00

00:18:09.520 to bear a child.

00:18:10.060 Nobody's forcing you

00:18:10.820 to do that.

00:18:11.180 That is the natural

00:18:11.840 superpower of a woman. 0.98

00:18:13.120 And what they are saying

00:18:13.760 is that the only way

00:18:14.460 that women can be equal 0.81

00:18:15.140 to men is you take away

00:18:15.860 their superpower

00:18:16.300 and you turn them

00:18:17.220 into physically weaker men

00:18:19.120 and suddenly this will be

00:18:20.400 the best way

00:18:21.680 for a woman to live. 0.98

00:18:22.580 That is such a mistake

00:18:23.640 for them.

00:18:24.260 Women don't feel this way. 1.00

00:18:25.460 Men don't feel this way.

00:18:26.320 No society can be built

00:18:27.240 on this.

00:18:27.960 And if this is the way

00:18:28.620 that left wants to go,

00:18:29.660 the language of the descent,

00:18:30.860 they're going to lose

00:18:31.580 from here till the end of time.

00:18:32.580 And I just want to,

00:18:33.600 yeah, I want to add to that

00:18:36.260 because I used to be pro-choice.

00:18:38.700 I used to be pro-choice

00:18:39.700 because I think

00:18:40.120 that's the natural product

00:18:41.420 of having a department

00:18:42.940 of education, education, right?

00:18:44.580 You come up

00:18:44.960 through the education system.

00:18:46.080 They don't talk to you

00:18:46.920 about adoption as an option.

00:18:48.820 They just say basically 0.97

00:18:49.740 you can have sex 0.99

00:18:50.520 as much as you want. 0.98

00:18:51.140 If you get pregnant, 0.98

00:18:51.740 don't worry,

00:18:52.100 you can get an abortion. 1.00

00:18:52.860 It's a clump of cells.

00:18:54.040 And what I was talking about

00:18:55.360 just this week on my show

00:18:56.500 was that my first introduction

00:18:58.240 to abortion

00:18:58.980 is actually with people

00:19:00.760 and my cousin

00:19:01.260 who became pregnant,

00:19:02.020 like people in my family,

00:19:03.100 pardon,

00:19:03.380 two cousins who became pregnant,

00:19:04.820 both of them were peer pressured

00:19:05.800 to get abortions. 1.00

00:19:06.860 This whole depiction in the media,

00:19:08.620 like women are marching 0.91

00:19:09.440 into these clinics

00:19:10.040 and they're super happy

00:19:11.020 and it's my body and my choice,

00:19:12.780 it's a lie.

00:19:13.660 I know six women 1.00

00:19:14.420 that have gotten abortions, 1.00

00:19:15.300 each one of them were pressured,

00:19:16.400 whether it was by family members,

00:19:18.140 whether it was from boyfriends.

00:19:19.300 I know one where the man

00:19:20.220 became literally domestically violent

00:19:21.700 and said,

00:19:22.400 you are going to abort this child 0.86

00:19:23.560 and I'm not ready to have a kid.

00:19:24.900 This is the conversation

00:19:25.760 that America is not having.

00:19:27.180 The majority of women

00:19:28.420 are getting abortions under duress.

00:19:30.720 So far be it from,

00:19:31.860 I just want to live my life

00:19:32.880 and be free.

00:19:33.820 And even the women 0.94

00:19:34.280 that don't do it under duress,

00:19:35.480 they come out the other side

00:19:36.640 and they're not the same.

00:19:37.940 They have an extreme amount of regret

00:19:39.800 and we're never having

00:19:40.820 those conversations.

00:19:42.140 The arguments are so dishonest

00:19:43.640 in the media.

00:19:45.260 I love the idea.

00:19:46.940 I love the idea

00:19:51.040 that men are trying

00:19:52.340 to force women 1.00

00:19:53.260 not to make sex more convenient.

00:19:56.160 It is what it is though.

00:19:59.420 It is neutralizing

00:20:00.440 the natural course of sex

00:20:02.720 so that men can be more free.

00:20:04.340 And they tell women 0.94

00:20:05.160 that oh,

00:20:05.640 now you will be as free as men. 0.96

00:20:07.200 But that's,

00:20:07.680 it's such a lie.

00:20:08.840 Because men won 0.99

00:20:09.420 the sexual revolution.

00:20:10.400 That's right.

00:20:11.060 That is absolutely right.

00:20:11.980 When you talk to young women today, 1.00

00:20:13.280 they are so miserable. 1.00

00:20:14.500 They are told 0.99

00:20:15.280 they're going to be freer,

00:20:16.120 stronger, better

00:20:16.980 because they can have 0.99

00:20:18.140 promiscuous sex 0.99

00:20:18.880 and all of them are, 0.99

00:20:19.820 so many of them are depressed

00:20:21.000 and you're not allowed

00:20:21.800 to talk about it.

00:20:22.760 You know,

00:20:22.920 there are psychologists

00:20:23.920 who have written books

00:20:24.600 under no name

00:20:26.700 or fake names

00:20:27.480 because they were afraid

00:20:28.580 they would be fired

00:20:30.160 if they said

00:20:30.820 all the women are depressed. 0.67

00:20:32.340 Why could this possibly be?

00:20:33.480 All this wonderful feminism 0.98

00:20:34.640 and the women are depressed.

00:20:35.720 This is why.

00:20:36.740 I mean,

00:20:36.980 they have taken away

00:20:37.700 from them exactly who they are

00:20:39.300 and now they're telling us,

00:20:40.720 as Matt has documented,

00:20:42.020 they're telling us

00:20:42.540 that they are nobody.

00:20:43.300 They're nothing.

00:20:43.960 Did you see this article

00:20:45.000 in Business Insider?

00:20:46.480 Yes.

00:20:46.760 So Business Insider

00:20:48.040 was reporting,

00:20:49.340 it's a terrible,

00:20:50.080 terrible news

00:20:50.700 as a result of the Dobbs decision.

00:20:53.240 Zoomers are having 1.00

00:20:54.700 less promiscuous sex. 0.99

00:20:56.900 This is really bad. 0.91

00:20:58.220 They're thinking about sex more.

00:20:59.660 They're deciding

00:21:00.140 if they like the person 0.61

00:21:01.060 they're having sex with. 0.57

00:21:02.240 They're maybe being 0.91

00:21:02.920 a little reticent.

00:21:03.640 This is horrible,

00:21:04.640 horrible news.

00:21:05.380 You are seeing

00:21:06.400 a downstream cultural effect

00:21:08.720 of this political,

00:21:10.400 judicial decision. 0.92

00:21:11.160 Sex strike. 0.98

00:21:11.600 The sex strike. 0.99

00:21:12.140 They're going on a sex strike. 0.99

00:21:13.700 And this, 0.82

00:21:14.380 you know,

00:21:14.720 it's really amazing

00:21:15.920 because the left

00:21:17.020 talked about the Me Too movement

00:21:18.460 for how many years?

00:21:19.740 Time's up.

00:21:20.640 They talked about

00:21:21.220 a rape culture, 0.77

00:21:22.240 not incidents of rape,

00:21:23.380 but a rape culture 1.00

00:21:24.340 that is pervasive.

00:21:25.700 All of that

00:21:26.480 is because

00:21:27.120 of the sexual revolution

00:21:28.520 and a culture

00:21:29.500 that encourages 0.98

00:21:30.460 promiscuous sex. 0.96

00:21:31.780 Where those lines 0.97

00:21:32.820 are blurred,

00:21:33.800 blurred lines,

00:21:34.720 you're going to have

00:21:35.500 those situations

00:21:36.440 where people don't know

00:21:37.420 where the boundaries are.

00:21:38.760 It redounded entirely

00:21:40.180 to the benefit 0.94

00:21:40.900 of dirtbag men.

00:21:42.480 It harmed lots 0.96

00:21:43.520 and lots of women 1.00

00:21:44.200 and it killed

00:21:44.880 a bunch of babies

00:21:45.640 and now that's over

00:21:46.920 and that's a big win

00:21:47.880 for America.

00:21:48.760 Can I just say,

00:21:50.400 first of all,

00:21:54.000 some of these women 0.99

00:21:54.800 who say they're going

00:21:55.640 on sex strikes,

00:21:56.500 I look at them

00:21:57.220 and I think...

00:21:58.260 You're already on one.

00:21:59.620 You were already on one.

00:22:01.620 That's like me saying

00:22:02.580 I'm boycotting

00:22:03.280 a vegan restaurant.

00:22:04.340 You know,

00:22:04.500 it's kind of a moot point.

00:22:06.780 Right, but Candace

00:22:08.780 raises a really good point.

00:22:10.660 Every once in a while

00:22:11.260 she does that. 0.98

00:22:13.620 When you say,

00:22:14.340 we call it

00:22:14.760 the pro-choice movement

00:22:15.580 but actually

00:22:15.980 the abortion industry,

00:22:17.160 they trade on

00:22:18.360 removing choice

00:22:19.740 from women.

00:22:20.360 When a woman goes 1.00

00:22:21.180 into the abortion clinic,

00:22:22.620 the message they're told

00:22:23.700 is not that,

00:22:24.400 oh, you've got

00:22:24.700 all these wonderful choices.

00:22:25.700 It's that you have no choice.

00:22:27.360 Your life is over 1.00

00:22:28.060 if you don't kill this baby. 1.00

00:22:29.560 Which is also why 1.00

00:22:30.460 as part of the backlash

00:22:31.660 against the overturning of Roe,

00:22:33.380 there's this really sinister

00:22:34.520 move happening right now

00:22:35.660 and it's happening

00:22:36.440 among the pro-abortion militants

00:22:37.860 and also the Democrats.

00:22:39.600 I repeat myself, obviously,

00:22:40.940 but where they are,

00:22:42.480 they're going after

00:22:43.320 the pregnancy,

00:22:44.400 the crisis pregnancy center,

00:22:45.460 the pregnancy resource centers.

00:22:47.380 The people who give choices.

00:22:48.880 Exactly.

00:22:49.500 These are just establishments

00:22:52.160 that are set up

00:22:52.940 to help pregnant women.

00:22:54.540 That's all.

00:22:54.980 They give you diapers.

00:22:56.280 They give you counseling.

00:22:57.100 They give you what you need.

00:22:58.240 And the Democrats are saying,

00:22:59.380 let's shut all them down

00:23:00.520 because if a woman is pregnant, 0.94

00:23:02.200 we want her to be desperate

00:23:03.940 and afraid because it's through fear

00:23:06.600 that she goes to get the abortion.

00:23:08.380 The abortion clinic

00:23:08.940 feeds off of fear.

00:23:09.960 That's right.

00:23:10.260 This is why I love,

00:23:11.200 on one hand,

00:23:12.020 they say conservative Christians

00:23:14.180 don't care anything

00:23:15.400 about a baby once it's born.

00:23:17.480 And then they also say,

00:23:18.700 shut down all the conservative

00:23:19.820 Christian charities

00:23:20.660 that take care of babies

00:23:21.640 that are born.

00:23:22.100 Right.

00:23:23.100 This is the thing.

00:23:24.280 They exist in an extraordinary

00:23:25.680 echo chamber.

00:23:26.600 They've been in it so long

00:23:27.420 and it's been created by Roe

00:23:28.360 because Roe has given them

00:23:29.320 the ability to say

00:23:30.020 whatever they want

00:23:30.580 without any sort of

00:23:31.260 actual political consequence.

00:23:32.340 And now Roe is gone

00:23:33.480 and people are going to start

00:23:34.200 taking their arguments

00:23:34.900 a lot more seriously.

00:23:36.140 And because they're in

00:23:37.040 this bizarre echo chamber,

00:23:38.520 they make arguments

00:23:39.200 that they don't even seem to hear.

00:23:40.640 There's a Washington Post article

00:23:42.120 a couple weeks ago,

00:23:43.340 right after the overturning of Roe

00:23:45.360 or a week ago.

00:23:46.060 And it was about this woman

00:23:47.500 who was in Texas

00:23:48.220 and she had had twins.

00:23:50.500 And the entire article

00:23:51.320 was about how

00:23:52.020 because Texas had a law

00:23:53.100 that was passed last year

00:23:54.080 that essentially banned abortion,

00:23:55.580 that because of this,

00:23:56.760 she had had the babies.

00:23:57.640 And the entire article

00:23:58.360 was supposed to be lamenting

00:23:59.520 that she had had the babies.

00:24:00.460 But what it posited was

00:24:02.320 the opening picture

00:24:03.480 is a picture of her

00:24:04.260 with these two beautiful twins.

00:24:06.240 And then in the article,

00:24:07.160 it says things like,

00:24:07.840 well, she thought a lot about

00:24:09.440 if she hadn't had these babies, 0.91

00:24:10.960 she could have gone to Hawaii

00:24:12.000 and swam with the dolphins.

00:24:13.400 There's no way

00:24:14.160 to read that article

00:24:14.960 and not realize

00:24:16.080 that this is a pro-life article.

00:24:17.540 This is saying

00:24:18.020 that the choices in your life

00:24:19.020 are bear and raise

00:24:20.780 two beautiful human beings,

00:24:22.500 two human souls

00:24:23.380 that you have brought

00:24:24.060 to this planet

00:24:24.700 and that you are going

00:24:25.660 to allow to live

00:24:26.300 an amazing life.

00:24:27.120 Or maybe you can see

00:24:28.780 your feet in the ocean

00:24:29.800 off the coast of Hawaii.

00:24:31.260 Did you see what she said

00:24:32.060 at the end?

00:24:32.880 What the girl said 0.80

00:24:33.500 at the end of that article.

00:24:34.380 She said,

00:24:35.160 my life would be unimaginable

00:24:36.620 without these babies.

00:24:37.680 I love these babies so much.

00:24:39.140 I'm so happy I kept my baby.

00:24:40.460 And that's hitting

00:24:41.680 at the culture of narcissism

00:24:43.080 that we have.

00:24:44.860 That's hitting at the culture

00:24:45.740 of narcissism that we have

00:24:46.700 when we hear this

00:24:47.220 with Michelle Williams

00:24:48.000 when she accepts the statue

00:24:49.120 and says,

00:24:49.580 I would have never won this award

00:24:50.700 if I had not gotten my abortion.

00:24:52.660 I was reading a book,

00:24:54.280 Ronnie Stark's

00:24:54.900 How the West Was Won,

00:24:55.780 How the West Won.

00:24:57.320 And in it,

00:24:58.080 he sort of depicts

00:24:58.860 this temple

00:25:00.180 that was being raised

00:25:01.000 Native Americans

00:25:01.720 far from the Pocahontas 1.00

00:25:03.060 depictions.

00:25:03.680 They were actually,

00:25:04.540 you know,

00:25:04.760 they were cannibals

00:25:05.600 and Aztec warriors

00:25:07.000 is what he was talking about

00:25:07.840 raising this temple

00:25:08.620 and they sacrificed

00:25:09.460 children and adults

00:25:10.660 every time they would

00:25:11.340 build these temples.

00:25:12.520 And he talked about

00:25:13.260 this one temple

00:25:14.060 that they raised

00:25:14.820 where they sacrificed

00:25:15.780 26,000 lives.

00:25:17.980 Unimaginable today, right?

00:25:19.060 And we're looking at this

00:25:19.760 going, oh my gosh,

00:25:20.840 how barbaric,

00:25:21.560 how archaic.

00:25:22.120 This could never happen today.

00:25:23.600 Look at American society.

00:25:24.700 We're sacrificing

00:25:25.740 890,000 babies per year.

00:25:28.360 Why?

00:25:28.880 For convenience.

00:25:29.860 For narcissism.

00:25:30.640 Because I'm not ready.

00:25:32.120 Because I think

00:25:32.880 I could go further

00:25:33.600 in my career

00:25:34.360 if I don't have this child.

00:25:35.940 That's really sick.

00:25:37.220 It's for the very same reason

00:25:38.720 that the Aztecs did it.

00:25:40.180 It's a paganism 0.97

00:25:41.180 that posits

00:25:41.840 if I sacrifice my baby,

00:25:44.000 I will have more material wealth.

00:25:45.720 That's exactly correct.

00:25:46.520 That's the exact reason

00:25:47.000 they did it.

00:25:47.440 That's exactly correct.

00:25:48.240 My favorite of these arguments

00:25:53.220 that they make now

00:25:54.140 that they don't hear

00:25:54.940 because they've been

00:25:55.480 in this bubble so long

00:25:56.500 is the one I see

00:25:57.460 on Twitter all the time,

00:25:58.940 which is,

00:25:59.380 if women have to have 1.00

00:26:00.520 their babies,

00:26:01.100 then men should be forced 0.86

00:26:02.160 to stay with them

00:26:03.320 and take care of them.

00:26:04.640 Do you think that?

00:26:05.400 Your terms are acceptable, right?

00:26:08.900 You know,

00:26:09.900 I think this was probably

00:26:10.900 the biggest takeaway

00:26:11.660 from this whole term

00:26:12.700 in the Supreme Court

00:26:13.520 is that I think conservatives

00:26:15.820 generally understand

00:26:17.180 where the libs are coming from.

00:26:18.480 We make fun of them,

00:26:19.300 but I think we basically

00:26:20.000 got what they want.

00:26:21.040 They have no idea

00:26:22.440 what we believe.

00:26:23.440 When they said that line,

00:26:24.440 there was another one

00:26:25.120 they said,

00:26:25.740 well, yeah,

00:26:26.460 we'll see if you like

00:26:27.400 the Second Amendment 0.93

00:26:28.140 when black men get guns. 0.99

00:26:32.420 Black rifles, black guns, 0.98

00:26:34.380 they're all good in my book, baby. 0.90

00:26:35.660 Let's bring them all on.

00:26:36.740 It's great.

00:26:37.440 We totally,

00:26:38.400 all of these...

00:26:39.160 Their entire account's

00:26:39.900 devoted to just saying this, right?

00:26:41.720 They don't understand

00:26:42.440 our opinion so much

00:26:43.020 that literally every day

00:26:43.860 they will bring out

00:26:44.480 a new opinion like,

00:26:45.440 well, if the right

00:26:45.820 truly believes X

00:26:46.720 and they have to believe Y,

00:26:47.560 they'll be like,

00:26:47.820 right, that's been our agenda

00:26:48.640 the entire time.

00:26:50.180 After that decision

00:26:51.380 came down

00:26:51.920 with Coach Joseph Kennedy,

00:26:53.440 who's now allowed

00:26:54.000 to pray on 50-yard line, right?

00:26:55.300 That's right.

00:27:01.020 So the columnist

00:27:02.000 was Jahad Ali

00:27:02.680 who writes for

00:27:03.160 the New York Times sometimes

00:27:04.140 and he is like

00:27:05.200 the guy who does this

00:27:06.020 literally every single day

00:27:07.500 he does this.

00:27:08.240 He was like,

00:27:08.940 well, you know,

00:27:09.320 if you allow Coach Kennedy

00:27:10.520 to pray in school,

00:27:11.620 you know,

00:27:11.800 a Jew might pray in school.

00:27:13.500 And everybody's like,

00:27:14.520 what?

00:27:15.120 And?

00:27:15.880 Like, this is not...

00:27:16.500 Okay.

00:27:17.600 On the abortion one,

00:27:18.680 their favorite one is,

00:27:19.640 well, you know,

00:27:20.100 if you are going to say

00:27:21.500 that life begins

00:27:22.020 in conception,

00:27:22.640 then men should actually

00:27:23.420 start paying for the babies

00:27:24.720 from the point of conception.

00:27:25.860 You should have paternity 1.00

00:27:26.700 from the point of conception.

00:27:28.520 And we're all like,

00:27:29.220 yes, this is called marriage, right?

00:27:30.720 You were supposed to be paying

00:27:31.400 before the baby

00:27:32.280 was even created.

00:27:33.580 That's what I thought

00:27:34.160 when they said sex strike.

00:27:35.220 I was like,

00:27:35.640 you mean abstinence.

00:27:37.760 Chastity is good. 1.00

00:27:38.800 That could be a thing.

00:27:40.500 Superfan Margo just fainted.

00:27:43.540 The mention of the virtue

00:27:44.840 of chastity.

00:27:45.420 Chastity. 0.99

00:27:46.220 You know, you really saw it

00:27:47.340 in the Maine case.

00:27:49.280 There was this ruling in Maine

00:27:50.640 that you could take

00:27:51.880 your public school funding

00:27:53.180 for rural students

00:27:54.240 and use it

00:27:54.860 at Christian religious schools.

00:27:56.400 And then the libs come out

00:27:57.680 and they say,

00:27:58.360 well, let's see what happens 0.85

00:28:00.120 when a Muslim, 0.94

00:28:01.240 which I don't know

00:28:01.820 that there are Muslims in Maine,

00:28:02.980 but let's say that there are.

00:28:03.780 They say, when a Muslim in Maine 0.94

00:28:05.760 uses that money

00:28:06.920 for their own religious school.

00:28:08.260 And I sort of thought,

00:28:09.020 you know,

00:28:09.560 if the options right now

00:28:11.040 were woke public school

00:28:12.960 or madrasa,

00:28:14.460 I am sending my kid

00:28:15.680 to a madrasa.

00:28:16.700 He will get a much more

00:28:17.600 normal education

00:28:18.480 and they won't trans my kid.

00:28:20.700 Yeah.

00:28:21.020 I mean, I...

00:28:21.780 I don't know how I would feel

00:28:30.440 actually about funding

00:28:31.560 a school for the one Muslim

00:28:33.720 in Maine.

00:28:34.600 It feels a little bit

00:28:36.620 like not a good use of funds.

00:28:38.460 But I think for the left,

00:28:39.660 you know,

00:28:39.780 they see everything

00:28:41.160 through this intersectional lens.

00:28:44.200 They see everything

00:28:44.880 through the lens

00:28:45.460 of race and ethnicity.

00:28:46.740 They can't decide

00:28:47.660 how they feel

00:28:48.340 about anything at all,

00:28:49.760 about any event

00:28:51.220 that occurred

00:28:51.780 until they know,

00:28:52.800 well, what's the ethnicity

00:28:53.500 of the person?

00:28:54.020 What's the religion?

00:28:54.940 How much do they weigh?

00:28:56.160 How do they identify?

00:28:57.500 And they just can't conceive

00:28:58.800 of the fact

00:28:59.140 that we really don't

00:29:00.220 look at it that way.

00:29:01.240 We just simply don't.

00:29:02.060 We actually have these things

00:29:03.640 called principles

00:29:04.560 and we try to abide by them.

00:29:07.380 Oh, man, it really...

00:29:08.000 It leads them

00:29:08.340 to such unbelievable

00:29:09.100 box canyons.

00:29:09.900 My favorite is on abortion 0.83

00:29:10.880 where you'll see them

00:29:11.860 say things.

00:29:12.400 Like Ayanna Pressley 0.94

00:29:12.980 said this today,

00:29:13.660 the Democratic congresswoman

00:29:14.580 from Massachusetts.

00:29:15.760 She said today,

00:29:16.780 you know,

00:29:16.980 the real problem

00:29:17.700 with banning abortion

00:29:18.540 is it's going to

00:29:19.040 disproportionately harm

00:29:20.180 LGBTQ people.

00:29:21.940 And I thought to myself,

00:29:22.620 I'm going to need

00:29:23.180 a chart on this one.

00:29:27.040 I may not be an expert.

00:29:28.720 I mean,

00:29:28.820 I have three kids

00:29:29.340 of my own,

00:29:29.600 but I may not be an expert.

00:29:30.640 I'm fairly certain

00:29:31.560 that this is not primarily 0.85

00:29:32.720 going to target gay men 1.00

00:29:34.360 and lesbian women. 1.00

00:29:37.600 Amy Schumer, 0.80

00:29:38.460 same thing.

00:29:39.020 She came out

00:29:39.440 and gave a statement

00:29:40.000 about this is exactly

00:29:40.980 what the slaveholders wanted.

00:29:42.600 And I was like,

00:29:43.100 I would like a further explanation

00:29:45.100 as to what you are talking about

00:29:47.060 when you make that statement

00:29:47.920 because there was

00:29:48.740 no abortion happening 1.00

00:29:50.240 when we had slaves.

00:29:50.880 What are they saying?

00:29:53.280 And on the slave thing too,

00:29:54.480 this is why when pro aborts talk,

00:29:56.120 it's always opposite day.

00:29:57.060 Everything they say,

00:29:57.660 it's like the opposite

00:29:58.200 of the truth.

00:29:59.200 And on the slave thing,

00:30:00.600 this is what they're trying

00:30:01.460 to compare pro-lifers

00:30:03.200 with slaveholders.

00:30:04.200 But if you look back

00:30:05.320 through history,

00:30:06.000 you find, unfortunately,

00:30:07.360 the tragic tale

00:30:08.040 of human history

00:30:08.580 is that there are always

00:30:09.780 groups of people

00:30:10.600 throughout history

00:30:11.340 pointing to other groups

00:30:12.780 of people

00:30:13.280 and saying those people

00:30:14.720 aren't people.

00:30:16.120 And so we know

00:30:17.640 who did that back 0.71

00:30:18.400 in the 19th century

00:30:19.700 in this country,

00:30:20.180 slaveholders, 0.77

00:30:21.480 who's doing that now?

00:30:22.480 Of course,

00:30:22.760 it's pro-abortion people

00:30:23.720 pointing to babies

00:30:24.700 in the womb

00:30:25.060 and saying,

00:30:25.980 that's not really a person.

00:30:27.660 And not just that,

00:30:28.300 on the racial front,

00:30:29.720 my favorite part of this

00:30:30.560 is where they say,

00:30:31.120 well, you know,

00:30:31.400 it's racist.

00:30:32.060 What you're doing is racist

00:30:32.800 because it can disproportionately

00:30:33.860 harm black and Latina women 1.00

00:30:35.920 and all this. 0.99

00:30:37.160 And it's like,

00:30:37.860 so we're so racist, 0.98

00:30:38.800 we want more black babies? 1.00

00:30:40.640 Your idea is that 0.99

00:30:41.800 we're so racist,

00:30:42.460 we want there to be 1.00

00:30:43.100 fewer black abortions 1.00

00:30:43.840 and more black babies. 1.00

00:30:44.940 That's how racist we are. 0.99

00:30:45.900 Yeah, but the reason

00:30:46.940 they do it,

00:30:47.440 and this is why

00:30:47.840 Amy Schumer is so refreshing,

00:30:48.820 is because what they do

00:30:49.680 is they expect black Americans 1.00

00:30:51.180 to be the least educated 0.99

00:30:52.360 and they expect them,

00:30:53.460 hey, be angry,

00:30:54.620 go out and fight our battles.

00:30:55.840 That's all it means.

00:30:56.480 When someone privileged,

00:30:57.340 like Amy Schumer says,

00:30:58.260 it's exactly what

00:30:59.040 the slaveholders wanted,

00:31:00.040 what she's doing 0.81

00:31:00.580 is signaling to black Americans 0.99

00:31:01.860 to go riot, 1.00

00:31:02.960 go out and loot and protest

00:31:03.980 so that her

00:31:04.960 and her privileged Democrat friends

00:31:06.340 can have what they want,

00:31:07.180 which is the ability

00:31:07.660 to abort children 0.74

00:31:08.540 up to nine months

00:31:09.180 in the womb.

00:31:09.520 Well, this is an important point.

00:31:15.620 Yeah, let me get my applause.

00:31:17.340 Yeah.

00:31:18.240 You're nine months pregnant. 0.99

00:31:25.160 The racism of the left

00:31:26.660 always comes out

00:31:27.600 in these moments.

00:31:28.480 You know,

00:31:29.000 they actually want there 0.98

00:31:29.820 to be fewer black children. 0.99

00:31:30.960 That's what Planned Parenthood 0.97

00:31:31.640 was probably about

00:31:32.340 from the very beginning.

00:31:33.580 And if you read the things

00:31:34.920 that they say

00:31:35.680 about Clarence Thomas,

00:31:36.960 the things that white liberals

00:31:39.340 feel privileged

00:31:40.880 to be able to say

00:31:41.840 about a black man

00:31:42.700 when he happens

00:31:43.340 to disagree with them

00:31:44.240 is the great evidence

00:31:45.480 of the lie

00:31:46.320 of, you know,

00:31:47.620 conservative racism.

00:31:48.480 Did you see what Hillary said

00:31:49.300 about Clarence Thomas?

00:31:50.160 So Hillary came out 1.00

00:31:50.900 and she said,

00:31:51.480 you know,

00:31:51.600 I went to law school

00:31:52.440 with Clarence Thomas

00:31:53.160 and he is resentful

00:31:54.580 and filled with grievance

00:31:55.640 and it's like,

00:31:56.580 do you,

00:31:57.060 is there like a mirror

00:31:57.740 in a 300 mile vicinity?

00:31:59.920 Hot.

00:32:00.340 Like anywhere.

00:32:01.320 Petal.

00:32:01.720 A reflective surface

00:32:02.540 of any kind.

00:32:03.480 Water.

00:32:04.940 Glass and it's night.

00:32:05.980 Like something

00:32:06.460 that will reflect back at you

00:32:07.680 what you are saying right now.

00:32:08.940 But it's amazing

00:32:09.700 that Hillary Clinton

00:32:10.400 gets to say 0.85

00:32:11.020 basically angry black man 0.98

00:32:12.460 as much as she wants 0.98

00:32:13.860 and that's totally fine.

00:32:14.980 And that was after

00:32:16.340 he became 0.99

00:32:16.960 a sexually charged black man. 0.99

00:32:18.780 They've been doing this to him 0.96

00:32:19.820 and they actually

00:32:20.840 have a theory now.

00:32:21.760 Their theory is

00:32:22.700 that a black person 0.66

00:32:23.540 becomes white

00:32:24.600 by disagreeing with them.

00:32:25.840 They actually say this.

00:32:26.820 Oh yeah.

00:32:27.520 Essentially,

00:32:28.140 he has adopted white values

00:32:30.020 and he's therefore white.

00:32:31.380 You know why

00:32:31.780 they're especially angry

00:32:33.000 though that we're winning

00:32:34.200 on abortion right now? 0.98

00:32:35.640 The dirty little secret is

00:32:37.280 no one actually cares

00:32:39.040 about abortion.

00:32:40.300 We care about abortion. 0.95

00:32:41.720 We pro-lifers really care.

00:32:43.180 The radical, 0.98

00:32:43.900 crazy, 1.00

00:32:44.300 shrieking, 0.75

00:32:44.980 you know,

00:32:45.380 crazy hair color ladies, 1.00

00:32:46.720 they care about abortion. 0.99

00:32:47.880 The vast majority

00:32:49.000 of Americans

00:32:49.520 do not care at all.

00:32:50.840 Something like 15%

00:32:52.180 of Americans

00:32:52.800 consider abortion

00:32:53.880 to be the top issue

00:32:54.880 and you figure

00:32:55.760 7.5% are pro-life,

00:32:57.200 7.5% are pro-abortion.

00:32:59.000 And so when you win,

00:33:00.820 when you get a victory

00:33:01.820 like Dobbs,

00:33:02.940 like the pro-life law

00:33:03.840 in Mississippi,

00:33:04.460 like the pro-life laws

00:33:05.100 around the country,

00:33:06.180 now the onus

00:33:07.240 is on the left

00:33:08.280 on the pro-abortion side

00:33:09.440 to gin up the enthusiasm.

00:33:11.360 It's not going to happen.

00:33:12.540 It's not going to help them

00:33:13.400 in the midterms

00:33:13.980 in November.

00:33:14.720 They're going to lose

00:33:15.600 and that's that.

00:33:16.420 I think there's

00:33:23.960 one of the really

00:33:26.060 important points

00:33:26.620 to make here

00:33:27.180 and this is,

00:33:28.240 we know the left,

00:33:30.160 one thing they're very good at

00:33:31.020 is defining the terms

00:33:32.080 of debate

00:33:32.560 and giving us all terms

00:33:34.280 that we're supposed to use

00:33:35.520 and so this term

00:33:37.260 of reproductive,

00:33:38.320 like it's a matter

00:33:39.160 of reproductive rights.

00:33:40.840 It's so absurd

00:33:42.500 because,

00:33:43.080 because,

00:33:43.920 you know,

00:33:44.240 when we're talking

00:33:44.760 about abortion,

00:33:45.340 this is an act

00:33:46.640 of violence

00:33:47.060 being committed

00:33:47.720 against a life

00:33:48.860 that has already

00:33:49.460 been produced.

00:33:50.700 The reproductive act, 0.72

00:33:52.400 okay,

00:33:52.880 that's the sexual act 1.00

00:33:54.160 and then reproduction

00:33:54.860 is conception.

00:33:56.340 So that's why

00:33:57.060 when a woman 0.99

00:33:58.800 is giving birth

00:33:59.480 in the hospital

00:34:00.160 and she's in the middle

00:34:01.640 of getting birth,

00:34:02.060 you never hear

00:34:02.500 a doctor shout,

00:34:03.520 oh, she's reproducing.

00:34:05.220 It's like that is,

00:34:06.160 hopefully the reproduction

00:34:08.080 didn't happen

00:34:08.660 in the hospital.

00:34:09.080 That'd be very strange.

00:34:10.460 So this is,

00:34:12.220 it's,

00:34:13.280 abortion is not 0.61

00:34:14.020 a reproductive decision. 0.54

00:34:15.340 Okay,

00:34:15.500 because the baby

00:34:16.000 already exists.

00:34:17.020 Abortion is,

00:34:18.100 in fact,

00:34:18.560 more of a parenting

00:34:19.640 decision.

00:34:20.380 It's a decision of,

00:34:22.000 am I going to care

00:34:22.940 for my child 1.00

00:34:23.940 or kill him? 1.00

00:34:25.340 That's actually 0.99

00:34:26.080 the decision being made

00:34:27.100 and when you,

00:34:27.880 when you lay it out

00:34:29.100 that way,

00:34:29.520 I think it kind of

00:34:30.420 puts a good,

00:34:31.120 different face on it.

00:34:32.020 It really is all about

00:34:33.060 whether the child

00:34:33.700 is a human being

00:34:34.600 and even in the descent,

00:34:36.240 the Kagan descent,

00:34:37.460 they talk about

00:34:38.220 the competition of rights,

00:34:40.000 the mother's rights

00:34:40.640 versus the baby's rights.

00:34:42.640 Why do they,

00:34:43.080 why does a baby have rights? 1.00

00:34:44.080 Why does an unborn baby 0.74

00:34:44.940 have rights

00:34:45.280 if it's not a human being?

00:34:46.640 I mean,

00:34:47.080 even their descent

00:34:48.180 kind of proved our point.

00:34:49.540 That's right.

00:34:50.060 I actually want to talk

00:34:50.960 about that.

00:34:52.580 What's going to happen next?

00:34:53.940 I mean,

00:34:54.740 we,

00:34:55.200 obviously it's a great moment.

00:34:56.500 It's a great thing

00:34:57.120 that's happened,

00:34:57.560 but there are a lot

00:34:58.540 of unintended consequences

00:34:59.580 whenever there's

00:35:00.260 a seismic shift

00:35:01.060 in policy.

00:35:02.380 Overturning Roe,

00:35:03.220 for example,

00:35:03.920 one thing that Roe,

00:35:04.840 obviously we know

00:35:05.520 that Roe made 0.96

00:35:06.260 abortion federally protected,

00:35:08.300 but it also limited

00:35:09.640 certain aspects of abortion.

00:35:11.300 That changed a little bit

00:35:12.440 over the years with Casey,

00:35:13.280 which was also overturned.

00:35:14.640 But one of the things

00:35:15.480 that we know

00:35:16.420 is going to happen

00:35:17.060 is that while

00:35:17.600 there are going to be

00:35:18.360 far, far fewer abortions

00:35:19.760 in Tennessee,

00:35:21.260 there are going to be

00:35:21.820 far, far more abortions

00:35:23.040 in California,

00:35:24.140 but that's not the extent of it.

00:35:25.440 There are going to be

00:35:25.920 far, far more brutal abortions

00:35:27.700 in California

00:35:28.500 because essentially

00:35:29.360 all the constraints

00:35:30.820 that have been placed

00:35:31.380 on abortion

00:35:31.880 at the federal level

00:35:32.820 are also removed.

00:35:34.360 You're going to wind up

00:35:34.840 having like abortion 0.71

00:35:35.540 until your 14th birthday

00:35:36.720 in blue states.

00:35:38.060 This is also going

00:35:40.320 to make abortion

00:35:41.140 now a legislative issue,

00:35:42.880 which it hasn't been

00:35:43.500 in my lifetime,

00:35:44.600 which means that now

00:35:45.340 it's a matter of

00:35:46.620 not just like something

00:35:47.640 we talk about

00:35:48.140 every four years

00:35:48.940 during presidential cycles,

00:35:50.680 but something you're

00:35:51.240 going to be thinking about

00:35:51.960 during state representative

00:35:53.220 elections,

00:35:53.920 during federal

00:35:54.520 representative elections.

00:35:56.420 What can come of this

00:35:58.820 other than,

00:35:59.560 I mean,

00:35:59.820 obviously we're celebrating

00:36:00.900 it's a great day

00:36:01.680 for the country,

00:36:02.460 but what are the things

00:36:03.120 that can actually come of this?

00:36:04.040 Corporate policies.

00:36:05.780 I think there are two things

00:36:07.040 that could come of it.

00:36:07.780 One is what I'm hoping for

00:36:09.020 and what I actually foresee,

00:36:10.480 which is moral federalism,

00:36:11.980 which means that we are

00:36:12.760 going to form communities

00:36:14.180 in our states.

00:36:15.000 We're going to become

00:36:15.560 a patchwork of states,

00:36:16.540 which is what we were

00:36:17.280 meant to be.

00:36:18.480 Madison knew that only

00:36:19.540 a patchwork of states

00:36:20.400 could survive as a republic

00:36:21.520 and a gigantic republic

00:36:22.640 would descend

00:36:23.180 into authoritarianism.

00:36:24.700 That's what the left

00:36:25.320 is trying to get.

00:36:26.120 That's why they don't want

00:36:26.720 the guns with which

00:36:27.720 we defend our states' rights.

00:36:29.320 So that's the good version of it.

00:36:31.000 The good version of it

00:36:31.720 is we all move into

00:36:32.540 the states we want to live in.

00:36:33.960 We become experiments

00:36:35.260 in democracy

00:36:35.960 and the ones that succeed win.

00:36:37.500 The bad version is

00:36:38.320 we all start killing one another

00:36:39.480 and we have a civil war.

00:36:40.620 I actually don't agree.

00:36:43.880 I actually don't fully agree

00:36:45.260 with that because this is

00:36:46.120 what I hear from conservatives

00:36:47.000 saying that,

00:36:47.620 well, this is a states' rights issue

00:36:48.640 and the best thing is

00:36:49.780 that we leave it to the states.

00:36:51.120 And I think that obviously

00:36:53.280 Roe was decided correctly.

00:36:54.900 So for the time being,

00:36:56.080 that means you send it

00:36:56.780 back to the states.

00:36:57.900 But I don't believe,

00:36:59.280 in fact,

00:36:59.820 that California

00:37:00.780 has the right 1.00

00:37:02.840 rights to kill babies. 0.92

00:37:04.380 I don't think 0.98

00:37:05.000 that that's a right

00:37:05.640 that exists.

00:37:06.400 I don't think

00:37:06.780 that people have...

00:37:07.500 I don't think

00:37:11.260 that that right exists.

00:37:14.040 So what I would like

00:37:14.860 to see is

00:37:15.840 that, in fact,

00:37:17.180 this goes back

00:37:17.720 to being a federal issue

00:37:18.880 and that we go

00:37:19.740 to those states

00:37:20.300 and we say,

00:37:21.240 you're not allowed

00:37:21.640 to kill babies. 0.98

00:37:22.260 And there are a few 1.00

00:37:23.040 different ways to do that.

00:37:24.200 One would be

00:37:24.720 through a personhood amendment,

00:37:26.180 which we shouldn't need,

00:37:28.260 but we do

00:37:28.940 to just affirm

00:37:29.880 you have a constitutional

00:37:32.080 right to life.

00:37:33.500 I think that has to be...

00:37:34.620 Personhood amendment

00:37:35.100 needs to be the next step.

00:37:36.200 And every win

00:37:39.240 that conservatives

00:37:40.080 are experiencing right now

00:37:41.700 will be short-lived

00:37:42.380 if we don't take back

00:37:43.240 over the education system

00:37:44.440 because that's how we got here

00:37:45.420 in the first place.

00:37:47.320 And speaking to that point,

00:37:50.580 I think everybody knows by now,

00:37:51.880 but my idol

00:37:52.740 is obviously Thomas Sowell.

00:37:53.920 I love him.

00:37:54.700 And he wrote a book

00:37:55.500 called

00:37:57.560 Inside the American

00:37:58.900 Education System

00:37:59.740 and he spells out

00:38:00.680 Planned Parenthood's push

00:38:02.100 in the 70s.

00:38:02.960 There was this lie,

00:38:04.000 this propaganda

00:38:04.540 that was created

00:38:05.400 that teenagers 0.97

00:38:06.320 were all just having sex 0.57

00:38:07.580 when in fact they weren't.

00:38:08.780 The majority of teenagers

00:38:09.760 in America

00:38:10.160 were graduating

00:38:10.740 with their virginity.

00:38:11.880 And then Planned Parenthood

00:38:12.720 got into the classroom

00:38:13.680 and they started saying,

00:38:15.060 okay, actually your parents

00:38:16.080 know what they're talking about.

00:38:17.160 This is a different generation. 0.53

00:38:18.800 Sex is okay. 0.50

00:38:19.860 And that's how we've arrived

00:38:20.980 at where we are today

00:38:21.860 because we've allowed

00:38:22.760 these institutions

00:38:23.740 to get into our classroom

00:38:25.000 and to poison the minds

00:38:25.860 of our youth.

00:38:26.660 That's how you end up

00:38:27.480 with these shrieking women 1.00

00:38:28.720 that really can have

00:38:30.380 the ability,

00:38:31.340 if you saw that photo,

00:38:32.580 of a woman

00:38:32.900 that was eight months pregnant 0.99

00:38:33.900 saying, you know,

00:38:34.520 this is still not a baby,

00:38:36.380 still not a life.

00:38:37.160 That's scary stuff.

00:38:38.100 And I really do believe 0.99

00:38:39.100 that the shit that has to happen, 0.99

00:38:40.820 I'm always kind of 1.00

00:38:42.200 screaming at parents

00:38:43.460 to get involved

00:38:44.240 as much as you can

00:38:46.060 on a local level

00:38:46.720 and understand

00:38:47.160 that that's where

00:38:47.620 the real battles

00:38:48.160 are taking place.

00:38:48.960 So, yeah.

00:38:52.380 I actually think

00:38:53.440 that the pro-life movement

00:38:54.480 has actually a very serious

00:38:55.760 upper hand here.

00:38:57.000 And I think the reason

00:38:57.660 we have an upper hand

00:38:58.280 is because for 50 years

00:38:59.240 the Democrats

00:38:59.680 didn't have to come up

00:39:00.340 with any arguments

00:39:01.120 to support why

00:39:02.000 they love abortion so much.

00:39:03.480 Whereas people on the right,

00:39:04.720 we actually had to make

00:39:05.420 the arguments

00:39:05.820 to individual women

00:39:06.940 as to why abortion

00:39:07.800 is wrong and bad.

00:39:09.500 Right?

00:39:09.620 This is why the number

00:39:10.340 of abortions year on year

00:39:11.240 has declined in the United States

00:39:12.520 actually over the course

00:39:13.340 of the last couple of decades

00:39:14.300 despite the absolute

00:39:15.100 increase in population,

00:39:16.220 absolute decrease in abortion,

00:39:18.080 absolute increase in population.

00:39:19.440 That's because the pro-life movement

00:39:20.400 has done an amazing job

00:39:21.600 of informing more and more women

00:39:22.680 that this is the case.

00:39:23.300 So that means the groundwork

00:39:24.360 is being set,

00:39:25.120 particularly in the purple states,

00:39:26.040 which we're going to have

00:39:26.540 to move the deadlines

00:39:27.420 early and earlier

00:39:28.260 on a state level

00:39:28.980 in terms of protecting human life.

00:39:30.680 But it means that the left

00:39:31.620 is really wrong-footed here.

00:39:33.320 Matt, you're obviously

00:39:34.420 right down on a legal level.

00:39:35.640 I think that the Supreme Court

00:39:36.760 makes pretty clear

00:39:37.620 in its opinion

00:39:38.060 and particularly

00:39:38.620 in Justice Kavanaugh's concurrence

00:39:40.060 that they are not going

00:39:41.480 to allow widespread

00:39:42.720 federal congressional legislation purely.

00:39:44.840 I don't think that

00:39:45.400 if Republicans earn

00:39:46.240 a majority in Congress

00:39:47.140 and in the Senate

00:39:47.640 and even have the presidency

00:39:48.600 and then pass a law,

00:39:49.640 say barring abortion

00:39:50.420 at 10 weeks,

00:39:51.340 that the Supreme Court

00:39:51.920 will uphold that.

00:39:52.480 I think they're going

00:39:52.920 to have real trouble

00:39:53.500 doing that

00:39:53.980 under the inherent power

00:39:55.000 that Congress has given

00:39:56.020 under the Constitution

00:39:56.780 of the United States.

00:39:57.680 What it does mean

00:39:58.320 is that if we're going

00:39:58.760 to win this thing long-term,

00:40:00.200 it's going to be

00:40:00.740 a gradual washing

00:40:01.900 of pro-life sentiments

00:40:02.880 across the land,

00:40:03.620 beginning in the red states,

00:40:04.640 moving across the purple states,

00:40:05.780 and then finally

00:40:06.340 hitting the blue states.

00:40:07.380 And for the blue states

00:40:08.020 that won't comply,

00:40:08.700 by that point,

00:40:09.320 there will be enough states

00:40:09.980 to back a constitutional amendment

00:40:11.220 you'll actually be able to win.

00:40:12.140 That's the way

00:40:12.520 it's supposed to work.

00:40:13.260 Absolutely right.

00:40:15.020 It gets to this question.

00:40:17.300 It's a virtue

00:40:18.160 that conservatives

00:40:19.080 are generally better at,

00:40:20.180 but we sometimes forget.

00:40:21.040 And prudence.

00:40:22.380 You need to be prudent

00:40:23.140 with the way you go about this.

00:40:24.300 To your point, Matt,

00:40:25.440 of course it's the case.

00:40:27.520 No one has a right

00:40:28.520 to commit murder.

00:40:29.560 It's wrong to commit murder,

00:40:31.100 not just because I think so,

00:40:32.860 but just because

00:40:34.040 it is objectively.

00:40:35.480 And the law,

00:40:36.280 understood in that way,

00:40:37.380 is not something

00:40:38.020 that I invent

00:40:38.860 out of my unfettered reason.

00:40:40.320 It's actually something

00:40:41.180 I perceive

00:40:42.000 from objective reality,

00:40:43.560 and then we apply it

00:40:44.620 throughout our country.

00:40:45.500 So that's absolutely right.

00:40:47.380 To your point, Ben,

00:40:48.420 the opinions are,

00:40:50.500 especially Kavanaugh,

00:40:51.500 are very, very clear.

00:40:52.300 We're not touching this.

00:40:53.080 We don't want to deal with it.

00:40:54.020 We're not going to even go so far

00:40:55.840 as Clarence Thomas,

00:40:57.160 whose concurrence

00:40:58.000 was absolutely awesome,

00:40:59.460 but he was the only guy

00:41:00.260 that signed on to it.

00:41:01.260 So they're not going to do that.

00:41:03.000 There is this question of prudence.

00:41:04.620 There's more than one way

00:41:05.500 to skin a cat.

00:41:06.540 And I bet you,

00:41:08.100 I'm just putting on

00:41:09.020 my Noel Stradamus,

00:41:10.080 I'm reading the future,

00:41:11.120 kind of predicting things,

00:41:12.500 and I would imagine

00:41:15.400 that Justice Alito

00:41:16.960 100% agrees

00:41:18.980 with what Thomas wrote

00:41:19.980 in his concurrence.

00:41:21.220 I suspect there was

00:41:22.340 a prudential judgment.

00:41:23.900 We need to protect

00:41:24.760 this decision now.

00:41:26.480 Get rid of Roe, 0.60

00:41:27.620 get rid of Casey, 1.00

00:41:28.640 prudentially send it

00:41:29.640 back to the States, 1.00

00:41:30.660 and then fight that battle.

00:41:31.720 This isn't the end

00:41:32.460 of the pro-life movement.

00:41:33.660 Frankly, this is the beginning

00:41:34.860 of a whole new stage

00:41:36.140 of the pro-life movement.

00:41:37.220 But this is the way,

00:41:37.920 this is the way

00:41:40.840 the country is actually

00:41:41.980 supposed to work.

00:41:43.180 I mean, this is why

00:41:43.940 Kavanaugh repeatedly

00:41:45.100 throughout his concurrence

00:41:48.020 said there's 26 states

00:41:50.060 we're supporting this decision.

00:41:52.200 I'm an English major,

00:41:53.200 but I think that's a majority

00:41:54.120 of the states in the country.

00:41:56.560 And I think that that's

00:41:58.560 the way it's supposed to work.

00:41:59.480 We're supposed to install

00:42:00.580 the kind of culture,

00:42:02.040 the kind of law

00:42:03.160 that we want in our states,

00:42:04.380 and then that wins

00:42:05.580 if it works.

00:42:06.560 And I think this will win.

00:42:08.180 There's no question.

00:42:08.300 I mean, this is the other point

00:42:09.160 on the Democrats' overreach here.

00:42:10.380 It's not just Democrats

00:42:11.040 are overreaching in terms

00:42:11.920 of wanting to legalize abortion

00:42:13.460 until after you're actually

00:42:14.460 dead of old age 0.97

00:42:15.180 and revive you 0.99

00:42:16.420 and then abort you again. 0.83

00:42:17.700 What Democrats are overreaching on

00:42:20.720 is also a systemic

00:42:22.000 governmental issue, right?

00:42:23.000 They're talking about the idea

00:42:24.020 that this is anti-democratic

00:42:25.280 for the Supreme Court

00:42:26.040 to take itself out of the issue

00:42:27.300 and refer it back to legislature.

00:42:28.840 Yeah.

00:42:29.180 Which is the definition

00:42:29.880 of democracy, right?

00:42:30.860 We're going to let people

00:42:31.380 vote on this issue.

00:42:32.020 My God, that's anti-democratic.

00:42:33.200 We can't allow

00:42:33.700 that sort of thing.

00:42:34.760 And so they're calling

00:42:35.500 for packing the court. 0.96

00:42:36.340 They're calling for killing

00:42:36.940 the filibuster.

00:42:38.000 They're calling for getting rid

00:42:38.840 of the Senate in some cases.

00:42:40.360 These are the things

00:42:40.980 that AOC,

00:42:41.820 the estimable genius

00:42:43.060 Wunderkin,

00:42:44.380 is saying.

00:42:45.400 Stephen Colbert wants

00:42:46.180 her to run for president. 1.00

00:42:46.960 I fully agree with Stephen Colbert.

00:42:48.360 I also want her to run for president. 1.00

00:42:50.200 That's an endorsement.

00:42:51.340 You're endorsing. 1.00

00:42:51.720 My ass kicked so bad. 1.00

00:42:53.120 It would be amazing to watch. 1.00

00:42:54.480 But the overreach

00:42:56.520 is so extreme on every level

00:42:58.140 and they can't hold themselves in.

00:42:59.460 I really think that the media

00:43:00.540 have done the Democrats

00:43:01.480 and the left

00:43:02.240 a massive disfavor

00:43:03.180 because they've never been exposed

00:43:05.020 to the toxicity

00:43:06.080 of another argument.

00:43:08.060 It just doesn't exist for them.

00:43:10.120 And most of us,

00:43:11.060 and when I say most of us,

00:43:11.820 I don't mean most conservatives,

00:43:12.660 I mean most Americans

00:43:13.480 do not live 1.00

00:43:14.380 in their little stupid bubble 1.00

00:43:15.620 in which they all repeat 1.00

00:43:16.820 their dumb euphemisms to one ear. 0.99

00:43:18.040 Yeah, I agree, by the way. 0.99

00:43:19.340 I would love to say

00:43:19.860 AOC run for president

00:43:20.700 and I already raised

00:43:23.040 a lot of money

00:43:23.520 for her grandmother.

00:43:26.800 I'm thinking maybe...

00:43:28.540 Abuela.

00:43:30.340 It'll be time to fund her campaign. 0.92

00:43:31.900 I don't know.

00:43:34.820 One thing we know...

00:43:37.220 That might be a bridge too far

00:43:38.160 to fund AOC's presidential campaign.

00:43:39.720 I don't know.

00:43:40.000 It's a pretty good joke.

00:43:40.960 Yeah, it would be a good joke.

00:43:43.560 One thing we know

00:43:44.320 because now AOC

00:43:45.720 and all the rest of the Democrats

00:43:46.680 will say,

00:43:46.900 well, the Supreme Court's broken.

00:43:48.080 It's broken.

00:43:48.540 So what we know about the left

00:43:49.820 is that an institution

00:43:51.360 being broken

00:43:52.200 means it has stopped

00:43:53.800 bowing to their demands

00:43:56.520 at every...

00:43:57.100 The minute it stops

00:43:58.240 obeying their whims,

00:44:00.440 the institution is broken.

00:44:01.440 That's what it means, basically.

00:44:02.820 You know, I would be

00:44:03.520 the only one to push back

00:44:04.460 and say I wouldn't want

00:44:05.340 AOC to run for president

00:44:06.300 because we sit here

00:44:07.020 and we mock this,

00:44:07.900 but at the end of the day,

00:44:08.960 we are facing an educational

00:44:10.020 crisis in this country.

00:44:11.080 The majority of people

00:44:11.940 are driven by their emotions.

00:44:13.580 That's why their arguments 0.99

00:44:14.560 that are so foolish work, right? 0.99

00:44:16.240 They say things 0.99

00:44:16.960 that make entirely no sense

00:44:18.140 and people think it's true.

00:44:19.020 They get out there

00:44:19.500 and they say this means

00:44:20.700 women are going to be 1.00

00:44:21.400 having back alley abortions 0.83

00:44:22.800 and tens of thousands

00:44:23.960 of women were dying of back... 0.95

00:44:25.380 None of this is true.

00:44:26.460 But they don't know any better

00:44:27.440 because our educational system

00:44:28.640 has been rinsed

00:44:29.400 of civics 101.

00:44:30.520 We're talking about

00:44:31.260 a convention of states.

00:44:32.080 We're talking about

00:44:32.580 Article 5.

00:44:33.560 Go speak to your average person

00:44:34.920 that's in high school

00:44:37.020 or middle school

00:44:37.980 about any of these things

00:44:38.980 and they don't know anything

00:44:39.820 beyond CRT

00:44:40.880 and LBGTQ agenda,

00:44:42.420 which is why I continually

00:44:43.700 come back to that fight

00:44:44.640 for the education system

00:44:45.600 because one day

00:44:46.380 AOC will be able to run 1.00

00:44:48.040 and people will be stupid enough 1.00

00:44:50.140 to go, 1.00

00:44:51.060 oh, well,

00:44:51.500 she's saying everything

00:44:52.360 can be free.

00:44:53.140 Yeah, I agree with you, Candace.

00:44:54.420 I think she's the most

00:44:55.400 dangerous politician

00:44:56.320 in the country

00:44:57.220 and even though the idea

00:44:58.260 of her running for president

00:44:59.020 is funny,

00:44:59.580 it's funny that makes me choke

00:45:00.780 because I think

00:45:03.320 I could just see

00:45:04.900 God punishing us

00:45:06.100 by letting her win.

00:45:07.020 Yeah.

00:45:08.360 And she is the poster child 1.00

00:45:11.600 for ignorance. 1.00

00:45:12.520 She's not a stupid woman. 1.00

00:45:13.780 She's not a stupid woman 1.00

00:45:15.100 but she gives the picture 1.00

00:45:16.020 next to the ignoramus

00:45:17.300 in the dictionary, yeah.

00:45:18.720 Yeah.

00:45:19.300 You know, forget,

00:45:20.000 I mean, you mentioned

00:45:21.000 the average student

00:45:22.720 that doesn't know anything.

00:45:24.560 The average host of The View

00:45:26.040 knows less about American civics

00:45:28.940 and I was watching,

00:45:30.220 I don't know if you saw this clip,

00:45:31.640 I was watching

00:45:32.560 the great philosopher

00:45:33.520 Whoopi Goldberg

00:45:34.300 the other day

00:45:34.920 and Dr. Whoopi said

00:45:37.740 that Clarence Thomas

00:45:38.640 needs to watch out

00:45:39.800 in his concurrences

00:45:41.540 because they are going

00:45:43.860 to go after him

00:45:44.780 and his marriage

00:45:45.580 and make him a quarter

00:45:46.740 of a person again.

00:45:48.900 I scratched my head

00:45:50.580 for a little.

00:45:50.900 I said, first of all,

00:45:51.460 who is they?

00:45:52.600 Thomas is the one

00:45:54.380 who knocks.

00:45:55.440 Thomas is not,

00:45:56.540 he is the they

00:45:57.420 but that's beside the point.

00:45:59.160 Then I said,

00:45:59.680 the one quarter,

00:46:01.440 well, you're referring to

00:46:02.120 the, I guess,

00:46:02.600 the three-fifths compromise

00:46:03.660 but actually it was

00:46:04.720 the slave states 0.84

00:46:05.480 that wanted the black people 0.97

00:46:06.880 to be counted

00:46:07.340 as a full person

00:46:08.220 and it was the free states

00:46:09.360 that didn't want them 0.83

00:46:09.900 to be counted

00:46:10.200 for purposes of representation.

00:46:11.360 She doesn't know

00:46:11.740 any of this.

00:46:12.480 A country in which

00:46:13.960 the elites,

00:46:15.380 a country in which

00:46:16.060 the people who set

00:46:17.060 the public conversation,

00:46:18.660 Whoopi Goldberg's

00:46:19.260 on network television,

00:46:20.560 a country with that degree 0.98

00:46:22.140 of ignorance

00:46:23.040 among the elites

00:46:24.080 cannot govern itself

00:46:25.760 for very long

00:46:26.600 and this is why

00:46:27.240 the left goes after civics

00:46:28.500 and that's why

00:46:28.920 we got to fix it.

00:46:29.860 She is a great public,

00:46:31.400 she is a great public intellectual.

00:46:33.180 I mean,

00:46:33.340 she is a person

00:46:34.020 who literally said

00:46:35.740 that everyone is racist

00:46:37.020 except for Hitler. 0.74

00:46:38.280 That's an actual thing

00:46:39.480 that she said.

00:46:40.400 She said the Holocaust

00:46:41.080 was not racist

00:46:41.860 because Jews were white 0.99

00:46:42.980 but you are racist 0.98

00:46:44.240 if you're Clarence Thomas

00:46:45.180 and you voted

00:46:45.840 to strike down Roe vs. Wade.

00:46:47.640 I mean,

00:46:48.220 with that kind of intellect,

00:46:49.200 I can't follow her.

00:46:50.140 I mean,

00:46:50.300 frankly,

00:46:50.700 it's too complex for me.

00:46:52.280 How does a show

00:46:53.360 hosted by Sunny,

00:46:55.000 Whoopi,

00:46:55.340 and Joy

00:46:55.720 produce so much misery?

00:46:56.740 to a point Ben made earlier,

00:47:11.640 I mean,

00:47:11.800 these people,

00:47:12.900 you find on every issue,

00:47:14.740 they exist in this bubble

00:47:16.300 and they've never had

00:47:17.160 their views challenged at all.

00:47:19.000 They've never encountered anyone,

00:47:21.520 really,

00:47:21.820 who's willing to be skeptical

00:47:23.520 about their views.

00:47:24.220 That makes them weak.

00:47:25.380 That makes them beatable.

00:47:26.840 And that's something

00:47:27.300 that I discovered

00:47:27.880 while filming my Smash documentary,

00:47:29.860 What is a Woman? 1.00

00:47:34.480 Go to whatisawoman.com

00:47:35.900 and stream it.

00:47:36.400 I've got to say,

00:47:38.440 Matt,

00:47:38.960 as a professional

00:47:40.220 in transitioning

00:47:41.640 from content

00:47:42.580 into an ad,

00:47:43.720 that was just,

00:47:45.380 I bow to you,

00:47:46.080 my friend.

00:47:46.520 That was incredible.

00:47:48.380 Thank you.

00:47:50.840 When I was in high school,

00:47:52.140 I had,

00:47:52.500 on my voicemail,

00:47:53.400 I would always say,

00:47:54.000 this is Jeremy Boring,

00:47:54.940 actor, director,

00:47:56.300 and shameless self-promoter.

00:47:57.820 I had nothing on you.

00:48:00.900 Absolutely nothing.

00:48:01.560 I do want to say,

00:48:03.120 what is a woman, 1.00

00:48:04.860 obviously we're so thrilled,

00:48:06.500 the most watched documentary,

00:48:07.740 I think the most important documentary

00:48:08.980 of 2023,

00:48:10.620 2022,

00:48:11.460 and 2023.

00:48:13.480 2024.

00:48:14.560 2025.

00:48:15.280 2025.

00:48:15.500 We don't talk enough

00:48:18.080 about how important it is,

00:48:19.740 how what you revealed there,

00:48:21.360 as hilarious as it is,

00:48:22.500 is also terrifying,

00:48:23.960 and how you actually

00:48:25.360 asked a question

00:48:26.580 that you are essentially

00:48:27.580 not allowed to ask

00:48:29.140 in polite society

00:48:30.540 because the left

00:48:31.340 has determined

00:48:31.720 that there is

00:48:32.340 absolutely no answer.

00:48:34.060 One thing that I think

00:48:35.080 a lot of the people here

00:48:36.080 would probably like to hear

00:48:36.780 is just your journey

00:48:37.900 as you went through that,

00:48:38.720 how that came to be

00:48:40.080 both from the idea

00:48:41.680 and then also

00:48:42.960 how you were able

00:48:43.560 to see it through.

00:48:44.360 What I'm the most interested

00:48:45.380 in is how,

00:48:46.740 what kind of ice-cold blood

00:48:48.160 runs through your veins

00:48:49.240 that allows you

00:48:51.340 to sit in those interviews

00:48:52.340 for 45 minutes.

00:48:53.880 Can you also answer

00:48:54.780 like how raw kidney goat tastes?

00:48:57.300 How raw is it?

00:48:58.820 First of all,

00:48:59.420 I actually wasn't trying

00:49:00.200 to derail the whole conversation

00:49:01.200 to talk about me,

00:49:01.840 but I'm happy to.

00:49:07.420 First of all,

00:49:08.200 raw kidney of a goat,

00:49:10.920 it's surprisingly mild

00:49:12.360 and the only problem

00:49:14.680 with it is just

00:49:15.340 is just the knowledge

00:49:16.320 that it's raw kidney

00:49:17.480 and if you can get over

00:49:18.280 that knowledge,

00:49:18.880 it's actually not so bad.

00:49:20.460 As for the rest of it,

00:49:22.520 you know,

00:49:22.720 this was something

00:49:24.160 that occurred to me

00:49:25.280 years ago

00:49:26.240 that the entire

00:49:27.500 gender ideology

00:49:28.360 house of cards

00:49:29.040 comes collapsing down

00:49:30.240 under the weight

00:49:32.180 of one simple question,

00:49:33.200 which is what is a woman 1.00

00:49:33.920 and the only thing

00:49:34.840 that I didn't really realize

00:49:37.160 and that kind of surprised me,

00:49:38.940 well, a few things

00:49:39.380 surprised me filming

00:49:40.080 the documentary.

00:49:41.680 One of them was just

00:49:42.680 that actually

00:49:43.520 these people can't answer

00:49:45.600 any question at all.

00:49:46.980 It's not just

00:49:47.500 what is a woman. 1.00

00:49:48.500 I, you know,

00:49:49.140 we had all this planned out

00:49:50.340 before we sat down

00:49:51.040 with the interviews

00:49:51.560 and we went over

00:49:52.120 the questions

00:49:52.660 and we had them

00:49:53.160 kind of layered

00:49:54.160 like we're going to ask

00:49:54.880 this question

00:49:55.380 and kind of build

00:49:56.140 until we get to

00:49:57.080 the really hard ones

00:49:58.120 like what is a woman? 1.00

00:49:59.040 And so I thought

00:50:02.760 that things would stay

00:50:03.960 pretty cordial

00:50:04.900 until we got to

00:50:05.560 the really hard questions

00:50:06.480 and what I found

00:50:07.700 is that the moment

00:50:08.800 I asked one question

00:50:11.580 that was actually

00:50:12.420 a question

00:50:13.060 and not just a setup

00:50:14.920 for them to launch

00:50:15.720 into a spiel,

00:50:16.920 you know,

00:50:17.340 everything fell apart.

00:50:18.480 They became very defensive

00:50:19.880 and evasive

00:50:20.660 and...

00:50:22.160 Well, there was that

00:50:22.680 one professor

00:50:23.340 who became very offended

00:50:24.880 when you used

00:50:26.060 the word truth.

00:50:27.120 So why are you...

00:50:28.640 Why are you asking...

00:50:30.400 That's a good impression.

00:50:35.300 You know,

00:50:35.960 the great thing

00:50:37.460 about that interview

00:50:38.560 is that

00:50:39.600 everything started

00:50:41.340 to fall sideways

00:50:42.080 when I asked him

00:50:42.980 the difference

00:50:43.800 between sex and gender

00:50:45.620 and that's when things

00:50:46.320 got to...

00:50:47.420 started to get

00:50:47.960 a little hostile.

00:50:48.680 You mean his area

00:50:49.380 of expertise.

00:50:50.160 Right, his area

00:50:50.580 of expertise.

00:50:51.380 And also,

00:50:52.080 also, that's a question

00:50:54.080 that we emailed him

00:50:55.600 ahead of time

00:50:56.620 and he knew...

00:50:58.620 I knew we were

00:50:59.060 going to ask it

00:50:59.780 and then when I asked it

00:51:00.780 he said,

00:51:01.040 why are you asking me

00:51:01.540 that question?

00:51:02.120 What's going on?

00:51:03.680 That's pretty remarkable.

00:51:05.900 Unbelievable.

00:51:07.160 I love it because

00:51:08.280 in many ways

00:51:09.320 the documentary

00:51:09.840 is the culmination

00:51:10.760 of the work

00:51:11.140 we've been doing

00:51:11.560 at the Daily Wire

00:51:12.100 for the last seven years.

00:51:13.700 Ben mentioned

00:51:14.260 as we were walking

00:51:15.240 down from the backstage

00:51:16.840 to get ready

00:51:17.820 to take our places tonight,

00:51:19.240 he said,

00:51:19.460 you know,

00:51:19.660 the production value

00:51:20.360 of the things

00:51:20.720 that we're doing

00:51:21.120 has come up so much

00:51:22.760 from the days

00:51:23.160 when we were sitting

00:51:24.060 in the converted garage

00:51:25.320 pool house

00:51:25.880 in my backyard

00:51:26.440 shooting the Andrew

00:51:27.160 Klavan show.

00:51:29.320 We barely had budget

00:51:30.620 enough to...

00:51:31.820 We could barely afford

00:51:32.760 the black sheets

00:51:33.680 that we hung

00:51:34.180 over the windows,

00:51:35.000 you know?

00:51:37.260 And now we're producing

00:51:38.340 feature documentaries,

00:51:39.660 we're producing feature films,

00:51:40.760 we're actually competing

00:51:42.280 in culture.

00:51:43.200 We're just beginning

00:51:44.020 to compete in culture,

00:51:45.360 right?

00:51:45.580 We're hardly Disney.

00:51:47.180 They have a hundred year

00:51:47.980 head start on us

00:51:48.720 and about several

00:51:49.580 hundred billion dollars,

00:51:50.380 but we're finally

00:51:52.080 making inroads

00:51:52.680 into the culture

00:51:53.340 and that's a space

00:51:53.960 that conservatives

00:51:54.540 just have not occupied

00:51:55.940 at all

00:51:57.060 in living memory.

00:51:58.040 Yeah, I...

00:51:59.140 Yeah, I did...

00:52:05.480 One other thing

00:52:06.160 about that is I think

00:52:07.660 the thing that I like

00:52:08.520 about the film

00:52:09.080 the most

00:52:09.660 is that it works

00:52:10.620 as entertainment.

00:52:13.480 It's just,

00:52:14.160 it's a film,

00:52:14.780 you know,

00:52:14.900 it's an actual movie

00:52:15.760 while also dealing

00:52:17.180 with a really

00:52:17.640 important subject

00:52:18.500 and for that,

00:52:20.580 none of the credit

00:52:21.400 for that goes to me

00:52:22.440 because the people

00:52:23.860 behind the camera,

00:52:24.840 Justin Folk,

00:52:25.340 our director,

00:52:26.560 Dallas,

00:52:27.340 the producer

00:52:27.720 who worked on it,

00:52:28.920 Jeremy also.

00:52:32.820 That's all their work,

00:52:34.480 making it into

00:52:34.920 a piece of entertainment

00:52:35.480 and they had to pull me back

00:52:36.940 many times filming it

00:52:38.300 because I kept,

00:52:40.020 after we did

00:52:40.560 the first interview

00:52:41.260 and I had to sit there 0.99

00:52:42.120 listening to these maniacs 0.99

00:52:43.740 just talk to me 0.98

00:52:44.400 and I couldn't yell at them

00:52:45.780 and I kept wanting to say,

00:52:46.620 no, guys,

00:52:46.920 let's do this differently.

00:52:47.780 I want to just go in there 0.98

00:52:48.580 and scream at them. 0.99

00:52:49.440 Let's make that

00:52:52.100 the film

00:52:53.560 and so I had to have

00:52:55.160 actual filmmakers

00:52:56.000 tell me that

00:52:56.500 that doesn't make

00:52:56.980 a good movie

00:52:57.500 and that's not

00:52:57.840 the best approach to this

00:52:58.760 so I think we ended up

00:53:00.020 with the right approach.

00:53:00.740 But you know what,

00:53:01.160 you know what's one

00:53:01.520 of the amazing things

00:53:02.180 about the documentary

00:53:03.060 that it really goes

00:53:03.820 to sort of a broader

00:53:04.500 cultural point.

00:53:05.520 What the documentary is

00:53:06.440 is you being

00:53:06.940 extraordinarily polite

00:53:07.940 and asking a very

00:53:09.020 simple question

00:53:09.960 and the thing

00:53:11.420 that the left

00:53:11.760 cannot abide

00:53:12.400 is conservatives

00:53:13.000 being very polite

00:53:13.780 and asking very simple questions.

00:53:14.860 They can't abide

00:53:15.740 because what they want

00:53:17.020 to do is portray us

00:53:17.980 all as raging, 0.92

00:53:19.840 angry, crazy people 0.97

00:53:21.400 who simply want to 1.00

00:53:22.280 cram down our

00:53:22.940 biblical views

00:53:23.700 on everybody else

00:53:24.520 and what we're beginning

00:53:25.540 to see is people

00:53:26.240 just saying very simple

00:53:27.660 things very calmly

00:53:28.540 and the left

00:53:28.960 losing their mind

00:53:29.600 and it's having an impact

00:53:30.680 not just in terms

00:53:31.780 of like the stuff

00:53:32.460 that we produce

00:53:33.000 but also in terms

00:53:34.140 of the failures

00:53:35.080 of the kind of stuff

00:53:35.720 they're producing.

00:53:36.820 Candice standing

00:53:37.380 outside Patrice

00:53:38.440 Collor's house

00:53:39.260 and just saying

00:53:40.340 is anybody home?

00:53:41.720 Is an act of violence.

00:53:46.220 I can do it live

00:53:47.860 if you want to see.

00:53:49.280 Hello?

00:53:50.160 Hello, yeses?

00:53:50.900 Is anybody home?

00:53:52.660 She brought her baby

00:53:57.300 and the baby's

00:53:57.940 attacking you too.

00:53:58.780 I was like, what?

00:53:59.880 It was truly bizarro land.

00:54:02.220 I actually could not

00:54:03.540 have been nicer.

00:54:04.420 I couldn't have done it.

00:54:05.260 I could not have been

00:54:05.880 more polite.

00:54:06.480 That was the most polite

00:54:07.220 Candice Owens has ever been

00:54:08.100 in her entire life.

00:54:09.140 Right there,

00:54:10.080 outside of her house.

00:54:11.460 But it's this attitude

00:54:13.060 that I think people

00:54:13.980 have finally started to say

00:54:14.840 you know what?

00:54:15.380 Me saying what I believe

00:54:16.600 is moral is not impolite.

00:54:18.240 So there's been

00:54:18.660 this kind of generalized

00:54:19.920 attitude in the

00:54:20.960 conservative movement

00:54:21.500 as long as I've been alive

00:54:22.440 and well before it

00:54:23.540 suggesting that to say

00:54:25.420 what you think

00:54:26.260 on a moral level

00:54:27.280 and to say it

00:54:27.940 with confidence

00:54:28.700 is somehow

00:54:30.360 some sort of imposition

00:54:31.360 on somebody else.

00:54:32.080 It's an act of violence.

00:54:32.980 It's something cruel

00:54:33.640 and if somebody gets offended

00:54:34.600 it's probably because

00:54:35.340 you did something

00:54:36.020 that was worthy

00:54:36.660 of offending them.

00:54:37.980 And when people start

00:54:38.680 to get up on their hind legs 0.90

00:54:39.920 and say, you know what?

00:54:40.660 Just no.

00:54:41.360 The answer is just no.

00:54:42.520 Then that doesn't just

00:54:43.120 have an impact in terms

00:54:43.900 of the content

00:54:44.340 we're putting out.

00:54:44.860 It also means

00:54:45.500 that when the left

00:54:46.540 pushes their content

00:54:47.500 it fails.

00:54:48.120 So the key example

00:54:48.760 of this from the past month

00:54:49.760 is the failure of Lightyear.

00:54:51.140 Disney puts out a film

00:54:52.200 after Chris Ruffo

00:54:59.000 who does wonderful work

00:54:59.740 over at the Manhattan Institute

00:55:00.580 after he reveals

00:55:01.400 the undercover video

00:55:02.440 from an all-hands

00:55:03.500 Disney meeting

00:55:04.040 in which they have

00:55:04.700 executives talking about

00:55:05.700 a not-at-all secret 0.55

00:55:06.800 gay agenda. 0.91

00:55:07.400 Disney decides 0.95

00:55:08.680 they're going to put 0.87

00:55:09.200 a lesbian kiss 0.98

00:55:10.520 in a film that is designed 0.60

00:55:11.700 for small children

00:55:12.440 and all people

00:55:13.440 who are conservative

00:55:13.920 said is,

00:55:14.580 you might want to consider

00:55:15.200 whether you want

00:55:15.620 your kids to see this.

00:55:17.020 I tweeted that.

00:55:18.380 The left went insane.

00:55:19.440 You're apparently

00:55:19.780 not even supposed

00:55:20.260 to consider

00:55:20.680 whether you want

00:55:21.120 your kids to see it.

00:55:21.680 You're just supposed

00:55:22.140 to imbibe it

00:55:22.640 from the water.

00:55:23.300 It's like fluoride

00:55:23.780 in the water.

00:55:24.180 You're just supposed

00:55:24.540 to drink it.

00:55:25.240 You're never supposed

00:55:25.820 to think about

00:55:26.300 what it is

00:55:26.700 that you're imbibing.

00:55:28.280 And it's supposed 1.00

00:55:28.700 to turn you into a lesbian. 1.00

00:55:30.040 No, no, no. 0.98

00:55:30.680 That's not what it...

00:55:31.180 It doesn't do that.

00:55:31.780 Alex Jones...

00:55:32.440 Yeah, no, no.

00:55:32.940 It doesn't do that.

00:55:33.980 It doesn't.

00:55:35.400 But there were

00:55:36.140 a lot of people

00:55:36.620 who started to think,

00:55:38.300 well, you know what?

00:55:38.880 Maybe it's not impolite

00:55:39.800 for me to actually

00:55:40.480 live out my values

00:55:41.460 the way I wish

00:55:41.980 to live out my values.

00:55:42.980 And so Lightyear

00:55:43.780 is the biggest failure

00:55:44.440 Pixar has ever had,

00:55:45.400 bar none.

00:55:46.020 It's not close.

00:55:47.520 And they never...

00:55:49.440 They won't even...

00:55:51.800 They won't even acknowledge

00:55:52.980 that it's a culture war

00:55:54.620 until we fight back.

00:55:55.940 They go into our schools

00:55:57.380 and they say to our children,

00:55:58.620 oh, you know,

00:55:59.020 you can change your sex 0.94

00:56:00.100 and if your parents

00:56:00.740 tell you not to,

00:56:01.400 you can come to school

00:56:02.320 and do it secretly,

00:56:03.180 you can dress up

00:56:03.740 as the other sex secretly 0.77

00:56:05.120 and all this.

00:56:05.600 And we go like,

00:56:06.220 I don't want you

00:56:06.700 to just tell our kids that.

00:56:07.600 It's a culture war.

00:56:08.660 Why are you fighting

00:56:09.240 a culture war?

00:56:10.580 They started it.

00:56:11.620 They started it.

00:56:12.260 We're only finally,

00:56:13.400 finally, finally firing back.

00:56:15.300 And I think you're right.

00:56:16.480 Once we start to fire back,

00:56:17.900 I think they're done.

00:56:18.740 I think they're done.

00:56:19.240 Right.

00:56:19.580 This is...

00:56:20.400 And actually,

00:56:22.580 I think the coolest part

00:56:24.000 of the documentary

00:56:24.540 is that you went to Africa

00:56:25.620 because that's such

00:56:26.260 a household discussion

00:56:27.120 in my home

00:56:27.980 because my husband's always like,

00:56:29.000 these conversations,

00:56:30.000 when you're in the bush of Africa,

00:56:30.980 they don't even understand

00:56:31.840 the concept of lesbian and gay,

00:56:33.620 yet alone trying to explain

00:56:34.660 to them what it means

00:56:35.340 to be a trans man

00:56:36.540 or a trans woman.

00:56:37.880 And it kind of goes back

00:56:39.440 to what I always talk about,

00:56:40.380 which is this concept

00:56:41.060 of over-civilization.

00:56:42.540 Like, humanity wants

00:56:43.580 to constantly strive

00:56:44.600 towards progress,

00:56:45.440 but what happens

00:56:46.060 when we've actually

00:56:46.760 kind of progressed

00:56:47.980 to, like, good civilization

00:56:49.420 is we get to this point

00:56:50.600 where people are actually

00:56:51.500 going so progressive

00:56:52.440 that we're regressive.

00:56:53.640 We see this everywhere.

00:56:54.760 We've gotten so progressive

00:56:55.860 that you just walked

00:56:56.760 around America

00:56:57.320 and asked a basic question,

00:56:58.720 what is a woman? 1.00

00:56:59.440 And no one can give you

00:57:00.400 a straight answer.

00:57:01.160 But then you got on a plane

00:57:02.060 and went to Africa

00:57:02.740 and they're supposed

00:57:03.360 to be, you know,

00:57:04.080 living behind

00:57:04.860 and they can answer

00:57:06.180 your question clearly

00:57:06.940 and they look at you

00:57:07.680 like you're absolutely

00:57:08.380 Looney Tunes.

00:57:09.280 It's the same 0.53

00:57:10.020 with Black Lives Matter, right?

00:57:11.340 We've gotten so progressive

00:57:12.720 on the race issues

00:57:13.600 that actually we're just

00:57:14.340 asking for segregation again,

00:57:15.760 right?

00:57:16.360 Please only see me

00:57:17.460 as a black person

00:57:18.320 in every space 0.68

00:57:19.120 that I walk into.

00:57:20.140 I mean, that's where America

00:57:21.360 has really gotten into,

00:57:22.460 this circumstance of...

00:57:23.680 Our friend Bill Whittle

00:57:24.440 talks about progress

00:57:25.360 and he says...

00:57:27.360 He says,

00:57:32.520 one side,

00:57:33.380 the right,

00:57:33.920 believes that when

00:57:34.560 you're walking uphill

00:57:35.560 it's progress.

00:57:36.920 The other side,

00:57:37.840 the left,

00:57:38.300 believes if you keep

00:57:39.040 walking after the peak

00:57:39.960 and start going downhill

00:57:41.000 it's still progress.

00:57:43.220 The other,

00:57:44.320 in Africa,

00:57:45.220 this ties us back

00:57:45.900 to Roe v. Wade

00:57:47.020 because there was a moment,

00:57:48.660 there were so many moments

00:57:49.440 in Africa that couldn't 1.00

00:57:50.360 make it into the final film

00:57:51.780 but the whole thing

00:57:52.500 was just spectacular

00:57:54.420 and there was one moment

00:57:55.580 where I was touring

00:57:57.360 the inside of one

00:57:58.180 of these huts.

00:57:59.160 The huts are made

00:57:59.740 of cow dung.

00:58:00.500 Okay, this is what

00:58:01.000 they're living in.

00:58:02.180 Very tiny huts,

00:58:03.000 very dark

00:58:03.600 and I'm talking

00:58:05.040 to a woman

00:58:06.460 who's a mother

00:58:07.140 and she sleeps

00:58:08.440 on a bed

00:58:09.040 with her whole family

00:58:10.300 on this bed

00:58:11.220 made of a cowhide

00:58:12.060 and I tell her

00:58:14.020 and I ask her

00:58:14.660 if she's happy

00:58:15.560 and the question

00:58:16.900 doesn't even make

00:58:17.340 any sense to her

00:58:17.960 because of course

00:58:18.520 I'm happy.

00:58:18.920 What do you mean?

00:58:19.320 I have my family,

00:58:20.060 I have my kids,

00:58:20.740 why would I not be happy?

00:58:22.020 And then I tell her

00:58:23.580 that well you know

00:58:25.040 where I come from

00:58:25.980 in America

00:58:26.420 there are people

00:58:28.000 who think that

00:58:28.660 for a woman to be happy

00:58:29.620 she has to not

00:58:30.360 have kids at all

00:58:31.220 and she needed to have

00:58:33.020 that repeated

00:58:33.460 by the translator

00:58:34.080 because she didn't

00:58:34.500 even understand

00:58:34.980 the concept of that

00:58:36.300 and then she laughed.

00:58:37.540 She thought it was funny

00:58:38.340 that people would see

00:58:39.220 the world that way

00:58:40.520 and that's because

00:58:41.340 these are people

00:58:41.860 who are just situated

00:58:42.940 in their everyday lives

00:58:43.980 doing their duties,

00:58:45.280 fulfilling their roles

00:58:45.980 in society

00:58:46.460 and in their families

00:58:47.120 and they just don't have,

00:58:49.060 they're not plagued

00:58:49.720 by the same sort of

00:58:50.540 questions that we are.

00:58:51.440 Overprivileged

00:58:52.720 with an insane asylum.

00:58:58.620 So this is the moment

00:58:59.660 in which we live,

00:59:00.380 a moment in which

00:59:00.960 our country has progressed

00:59:03.060 past the peak

00:59:03.780 of the mountain,

00:59:04.680 a moment in which

00:59:06.060 asking someone,

00:59:07.180 you know,

00:59:07.780 using the word truth

00:59:08.860 in a question

00:59:09.460 sends them into a tailspin,

00:59:11.440 a world in which

00:59:12.380 the greatest cultural force

00:59:14.460 of the last century,

00:59:16.180 Disney,

00:59:16.860 is now actively trying

00:59:18.060 to destroy our civilization

00:59:19.240 out from under us.

00:59:19.900 That's the fight

00:59:20.760 that the Daily Wire

00:59:21.420 has been called to.

00:59:22.400 That's what we've been doing

00:59:23.100 these last seven years

00:59:24.000 and then after the intermission,

00:59:25.340 we're going to tell you

00:59:25.780 what we're going to be

00:59:26.560 doing for these next seven years.

00:59:29.480 We think you're going

00:59:30.240 to be excited about it.

00:59:35.300 All of this,

00:59:36.160 of course,

00:59:36.420 happens because of

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00:59:39.320 We're so grateful

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00:59:50.280 A lot of people asked

00:59:51.560 when we first announced

00:59:52.480 that we were going

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00:59:53.460 What is a Woman? 1.00

00:59:54.180 You know,

00:59:54.640 why are you putting it

00:59:55.360 behind a paywall?

00:59:56.260 Why isn't it out for free?

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01:00:01.620 You cannot make this kind

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01:00:53.120 and I have huge announcements

01:00:54.520 to come after the intermission

01:00:55.580 we want to include everyone.

01:00:56.780 So again,

01:00:57.460 questions at dailywire.com

01:00:58.700 get your questions in now

01:00:59.840 so that we can answer them

01:01:00.740 after the intermission.

01:01:02.240 And the last thing

01:01:02.760 I want to tell you guys

01:01:03.560 before we leave

01:01:04.220 is I love it

01:01:06.620 when you're at a wedding

01:01:07.400 or a funeral

01:01:08.120 and a baby cries.

01:01:11.080 A lot of times

01:01:11.940 if you're a parent

01:01:12.620 and you have a young child

01:01:13.540 and you're at a very solemn

01:01:14.900 a very special

01:01:15.720 a very meaningful occasion

01:01:17.600 like a wedding

01:01:18.160 or a funeral

01:01:18.620 and your baby starts crying

01:01:19.400 you're embarrassed.

01:01:20.420 You try to hush the baby

01:01:21.100 but it's actually

01:01:22.320 such a beautiful

01:01:23.320 act of humanity

01:01:25.140 for life to continue.

01:01:27.380 And we live in a moment today

01:01:28.580 thank God

01:01:29.180 for the first time

01:01:29.740 in this country

01:01:30.100 where we can say

01:01:30.840 life is about to continue

01:01:32.240 at a rate

01:01:32.700 that it has not been allowed

01:01:33.680 to continue in this country

01:01:34.740 for a long time.

01:01:39.560 You know what they say Jeremy?

01:01:41.320 You know what they say?

01:01:42.560 If your community

01:01:44.020 is not crying

01:01:44.960 it's dying.

01:01:45.960 You want those babies 1.00

01:01:47.060 out there crying.

01:01:48.280 You do.

01:01:49.300 Another beautiful

01:01:51.020 solemn occasion

01:01:52.180 besides weddings

01:01:53.260 besides funerals

01:01:54.220 is a dailywire.com

01:01:57.160 all access photo shoot.

01:01:59.460 100%.

01:01:59.980 And while we were backstage

01:02:01.840 300 of you

01:02:03.420 who are here tonight

01:02:04.060 paid the up charge

01:02:05.100 to get to shake hands

01:02:06.540 with the God King

01:02:07.340 and get a picture

01:02:08.100 and shake hands

01:02:09.180 with Ben Shapiro

01:02:09.900 and see if he was

01:02:10.740 really 5'9".

01:02:12.140 I am.

01:02:14.860 And so I'm taking a picture

01:02:18.700 and I look over

01:02:19.680 and out of the corner

01:02:20.880 of my eye

01:02:21.440 I see

01:02:22.180 one of the most 0.99

01:02:23.200 one of the most ridiculous 0.99

01:02:26.080 ludicrous acts 1.00

01:02:26.920 ever committed by a man

01:02:28.080 and yet

01:02:28.960 one of the most beautiful

01:02:30.300 when Sergio

01:02:31.780 proposed to Kayla

01:02:34.100 right in front

01:02:36.020 of Ben Shapiro

01:02:36.740 this happened

01:02:37.320 30 minutes

01:02:38.220 before the show

01:02:39.500 I think we

01:02:40.400 I think we

01:02:42.520 Hey Sergio

01:02:43.400 Kayla where are you guys at?

01:02:45.500 Where are they?

01:02:46.280 That's so cute.

01:02:50.960 They're pointing over there.

01:02:52.740 There they are.

01:02:53.500 There they are.

01:02:54.200 Back there.

01:02:55.620 Here's the video.

01:02:57.060 Oh my gosh.

01:02:58.080 That's so great.

01:03:01.940 It's going to be good.

01:03:02.640 Yeah.

01:03:04.000 Oh! 0.60

01:03:06.400 I love that.

01:03:08.740 Woo! 0.99

01:03:11.020 That is so great.

01:03:14.040 Woo! 0.99

01:03:14.360 Woo! 0.99

01:03:14.580 Woo! 0.99

01:03:15.080 Woo! 0.99

01:03:15.180 Woo! 0.99

01:03:15.280 Woo! 0.99

01:03:15.380 Woo! 0.99

01:03:15.780 Woo! 0.99

01:03:15.880 Woo! 0.99

01:03:16.280 Woo! 0.99

01:03:16.380 Woo! 0.99

01:03:16.880 Woo! 0.99

01:03:17.380 Woo! 0.99

01:03:17.880 I hope you guys are up

01:03:19.320 for Jewish wedding.

01:03:19.880 No!

01:03:20.380 No!

01:03:20.880 We have to look at them too!

01:03:22.960 Thank you!

01:03:23.960 Sergio and Kayla everybody.

01:03:26.200 That is so sweet.

01:03:32.860 We want to see your hands, we want you to leave a little room for the Holy Spirit, we want

01:03:41.160 you to stay right where we can see you until the big day, and then we want you to get busy

01:03:45.320 making as many little Sergios and little Kalas as is humanly possible. 1.00

01:03:49.880 You know, as the angel of love who brought this beautiful couple together, I mean, frankly, I can't think of a public figure more fitted to watch a wedding proposal, given my deep wellsprings of emotion, something I'm known for.

01:04:07.780 And watching this, my heart grew three sizes that day.

01:04:14.780 Congratulations, Rosaltov.

01:04:21.780 Now go buy some swag, go buy some drinks, go buy some popcorn.

01:04:29.440 We're going to go to the back and use the restrooms because we've been up here for a long time, and we're going to see you in 15 minutes and tell you about the future.

01:04:36.440 Welcome back to the comments section, I'm Brett Cooper.

01:04:47.440 There's a woman who married a doll.

01:04:58.100 I'm losing all hope. Have you ever been called a toilet brush before?

01:05:02.100 I have not.

01:05:03.100 Well, you have been now.

01:05:05.100 I'm not crazy, right? Like, she looks too much like Ben Shapiro.

01:05:09.100 Blue check Twitter lost its damn mind. She is the darling of the Daily Wire, Gina Carano. 0.98

01:05:16.100 The darling of the Daily Wire?

01:05:18.100 Yes!

01:05:19.100 Oh my gosh, that's the sweetest thing ever.

01:05:21.100 You know, if you thought that we were finished talking about insane people, we're not. We're never done.

01:05:27.100 You should be worried about us because we have common sense.

01:05:30.100 Because our arguments are reaching people. It's because we're based.

01:05:44.100 Hi, everybody. Welcome back to the comments section. I'm Brett Cooper. Hi.

01:05:52.100 So, we launched the comments section less than four months ago, and right now we are approaching 700,000 subscribers.

01:06:05.100 And we just passed 200 million total video views.

01:06:12.100 So, thank you.

01:06:14.100 In our pitch meeting with the lowercase godk himself, he said verbatim, I don't get this show.

01:06:22.100 It's not for me, but I know there's an audience for it.

01:06:27.100 Clearly, he was right, as he usually is.

01:06:31.100 He understood that this type of non-traditional content was the future for our movement.

01:06:37.100 And for some crazy reason, he trusted me to lead it.

01:06:42.100 Through the comments section, I am able to fill a void for people searching for a laid-back, common-sense perspective

01:06:55.100 without the perverted values that are corrupting our society, to put it mildly.

01:07:01.100 I actually had a comment that came up on one of my videos the other day that I wanted to share with you that I feel like highlights this well.

01:07:07.100 A man said, I'm a liberal, but honestly, listening to some of your viewpoints has started to change my mind.

01:07:14.100 I was pro-choice, but I am moving to be moderately pro-life, which I think is pretty cool.

01:07:28.100 You see, the mainstream media has a very certain way that they portray reality in order to further their narratives.

01:07:35.100 And it's usually not honest. Shocking.

01:07:39.100 And I have found that people are a lot more reasonable than journalists would like us to think.

01:07:45.100 People are waking up. And I see this in comments, but I also see this in my subscriber base,

01:07:50.100 which, shockingly, is made up largely of disgruntled liberals and political moderates.

01:07:57.100 They are craving content that is unafraid to stray from the popular prescribed narrative.

01:08:04.100 Content that is in search of the truth.

01:08:07.100 Therefore, I am so proud and I am so grateful to be backed by a company that takes risks and that is in the fight.

01:08:15.100 And that truly never fails to go against the grain.

01:08:24.100 And this is only the beginning.

01:08:26.100 So to talk more about how the Daily Wire is taking ownership of the future,

01:08:30.100 I am so honored to introduce Daily Wire God King and co-CEO Jeremy Boring.

01:08:36.100 She says I trusted her.

01:08:51.100 But in all honesty, I thought she was Ben Shapiro for the first three weeks she worked for the company.

01:08:57.100 You know, it's hard to actually put into words just how successful Brett's show is.

01:09:06.100 200 million views in four months makes her one of, if not the fastest growing, not political channel,

01:09:16.100 but channel of any kind on YouTube.

01:09:19.100 It's an unimaginable number.

01:09:21.100 It's the kind of number that took the Daily Wire when we were first founded years to accumulate.

01:09:26.100 That number of views and Brett's been able to accomplish it in four months because she is speaking to people

01:09:31.100 that no one has ever bothered to speak to before.

01:09:34.100 So let's give it up one more time for Brett Cooper.

01:09:47.100 As we've said a few times tonight, by happy coincidence, we're hosting this wonderful live broadcast

01:09:52.100 on the, to the day, seven-year anniversary of Ben signing his employment agreement and founding the company.

01:09:59.100 Some of the people who are here tonight were there at that very beginning.

01:10:09.100 Caleb and I, of course, Levi, who's here with us, Jonathan Hay, others who are here today,

01:10:15.100 some of whom write pseudonymously, so I can't even say their names.

01:10:19.100 Very quickly thereafter, John Bickley came to join us, and he's still here tonight with Georgia Howe.

01:10:25.100 They host Morning Wire, one of the most important shows that we're doing.

01:10:28.100 John and Georgia.

01:10:30.100 We launched Morning Wire because we knew that it's not enough to comment on the news.

01:10:45.100 The left actually originates all of the news.

01:10:47.100 They originate all of the journalism, and they speak to a group of people the conservatives are not great at speaking to,

01:10:53.100 and that's women. 1.00

01:10:57.100 Women listen to shows put out by the New York Times.

01:11:01.100 They listen to shows put out by NPR.

01:11:03.100 They listen to shows that purport to be very straight.

01:11:06.100 It's not that they don't have commentary.

01:11:08.100 They're commentary from top to bottom.

01:11:10.100 But they hide their commentary behind this veneer of objectivity.

01:11:14.100 And that veneer of objectivity is one of their great weapons.

01:11:18.100 It's one of the most manipulative tactics that they have.

01:11:21.100 And we thought, you know, there are people who want to hear the news.

01:11:24.100 They want to hear the news with very little bias.

01:11:27.100 And what bias is there, they want you to own.

01:11:29.100 And one of the things that we're very proud of with Morning Wire and with The Daily Wire more broadly,

01:11:33.100 we own our biases.

01:11:35.100 You know where we stand.

01:11:45.100 That doesn't mean that we don't endeavor to tell the truth.

01:11:47.100 We even endeavor to tell the truth when we think that our audience will be angry with us for telling the truth.

01:11:51.100 Politics is not always a game that rewards the telling of the truth.

01:11:57.100 But telling the truth doesn't mean that we're completely objective.

01:12:00.100 We are not completely objective.

01:12:02.100 We have a point of view.

01:12:04.100 We are fighting for that point of view.

01:12:06.100 Because we believe that it's the last best hope for mankind short of God himself.

01:12:13.100 And, of course, the good thing about God is he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants,

01:12:21.100 whether we have a good website or don't have a good website.

01:12:24.100 I don't claim to speak for God.

01:12:26.100 But we speak the truth as we understand it.

01:12:29.100 And we hold ourselves to a very high standard.

01:12:31.100 That's not the only new show that we've launched in the last year.

01:12:34.100 Sitting right next to John in Georgia are our friends Crane & Co.

01:12:38.100 These guys have brought such enormous energy to the Daily Wire.

01:12:54.100 And yet again, why did we move into this space?

01:12:56.100 It's because we wanted to compete for an audience that we don't think conservatives

01:13:00.100 have historically done a very good job communicating with.

01:13:03.100 And that, of course, is sports fans.

01:13:05.100 Now, when I say conservatives haven't done a good job speaking to sports fans,

01:13:10.100 that's not entirely true.

01:13:11.100 Until about seven minutes ago, only conservatives spoke to sports fans.

01:13:17.100 But like every other institution in our culture, the left has permeated.

01:13:21.100 The left has taken over.

01:13:22.100 The left has driven out all dissenting voices.

01:13:25.100 And we know that now it's actually incredibly challenging to even enjoy sports

01:13:29.100 because essentially we're told every day we're not welcome.

01:13:33.100 And Crane & Co. is challenging that.

01:13:35.100 They're saying, you have a right to sports.

01:13:37.100 Sports are an important part of how a culture forms,

01:13:39.100 and they cannot drive us out of that space.

01:13:41.100 So thank you, guys.

01:13:50.100 Since we launched the Daily Wire, you guys know the success has been unbelievable.

01:13:56.100 The Ben Shapiro Show, which started in my converted garage pool house,

01:14:00.100 has, over the last seven years, been downloaded 1.6 billion times.

01:14:05.100 The Daily Wire itself, the website, has received 7 billion page views.

01:14:18.100 And for 18 months, over the last two years, we were the number one publisher in the world,

01:14:30.100 the most engaged publisher in the world, not the most engaged conservative publisher,

01:14:35.100 not the most engaged news publisher, the most engaged publisher of any kind in the world

01:14:40.100 on the number one platform, Facebook.

01:14:43.100 Not to keep coming back to God, but sometimes I shudder to think about all the human productivity

01:14:57.100 that's been wasted on reading our website and what he'll have to say about it one of these days.

01:15:03.100 All of that, of course, was by design.

01:15:06.100 When Ben and I were doing a progenitor company to this, we were working together on a project,

01:15:11.100 and we had an idea, and the idea was twofold.

01:15:14.100 One, it's not enough to criticize culture. Conservatives have to create culture.

01:15:20.100 And two, if you build it, they will come, is the greatest lie of the 20th century.

01:15:26.100 You have to tell them about it.

01:15:28.100 You have to engage in incredible amounts of marketing,

01:15:30.100 and conservatives are terrible at marketing. 0.54

01:15:34.100 And so we founded The Daily Wire to deal with the second problem first.

01:15:40.100 What if we weren't the first people to decide,

01:15:42.100 let's write news stories that aren't subject to a huge left-wing bias.

01:15:47.100 We weren't the first people to think, let's talk about important issues, not from a left-wing bias.

01:15:52.100 Of course, there are many forebears, many giants on whose shoulders we stand in that department.

01:15:56.100 What we thought we could bring uniquely to it was the idea of marketing those ideas to a massive audience.

01:16:03.100 We had early success, not just in this company.

01:16:06.100 Before we founded The Daily Wire, our friends at Prager University were getting started,

01:16:09.100 and they had a very similar vision.

01:16:11.100 What if instead of circulating white papers among the initiated, we actually tried to tell people about these ideas that we think are so important?

01:16:26.100 And so we brought that attitude to The Daily Wire.

01:16:29.100 We invested more in marketing than we invested in content in those early years.

01:16:34.100 And if you know anything about how the actual culture is shaped, you know that Hollywood movies,

01:16:39.100 the marketing budgets can cost as much or more than the films themselves.

01:16:42.100 We wanted to have that same attitude.

01:16:44.100 How do we actually tell people about these things?

01:16:46.100 And then we wanted to create culture.

01:16:48.100 But here's the thing, culture is hard.

01:16:51.100 Culture is expensive.

01:16:52.100 Now, we were all LA guys, those original Daily Wire founders, Andrew Klavan.

01:16:57.100 We were all guys who had worked in the industry, all guys who had worked in Hollywood, all West Coast guys.

01:17:02.100 Probably we all still would be today if they hadn't absolutely destroyed the state in the last five years.

01:17:07.100 We knew that we could bring cultural skills to bear, but we also knew that we had nothing like the money necessary,

01:17:19.100 nothing like the breadth of talent that would be necessary,

01:17:23.100 and absolutely no ability to tell people about the cultural content we made, even if we were able to make it.

01:17:29.100 And so we thought the way to solve problem number one is to get really famous.

01:17:35.100 And what I mean by that is we want so many people to so regularly engage with our content that it's like a spotlight.

01:17:43.100 And when we decide to make cultural content one day in the future,

01:17:46.100 we'll be able to shine the spotlight of the giant audience that we've won over through our more traditional news and commentary content.

01:17:54.100 We'll be able to point that audience to cultural content.

01:17:57.100 And along the way, there were a lot of setbacks.

01:18:00.100 Along the way, a lot of people even on our own team stopped believing that we would ever get there.

01:18:05.100 But Ben and I, Caleb, we were dogged about this.

01:18:08.100 We knew that this was the future, and if we just kept winning, we could get there.

01:18:12.100 And see, this is the difference between the Daily Wire and there are many good conservative nonprofits out there,

01:18:19.100 but there are many bad conservative nonprofits out there.

01:18:21.100 The bad, the nonprofit mentality that permeates the right is on the whole a negative.

01:18:30.100 There are certain things that only nonprofits can do, but the nonprofit mentality allows conservatives to win by losing.

01:18:40.100 Something goes wrong, and you send out a fundraising email.

01:18:44.100 We decided from the very beginning that Daily Wire must be a for-profit company.

01:18:48.100 Our lives have to depend on winning.

01:18:51.100 We can only win by winning.

01:18:53.100 And so we won, and we won, and we won, and we won.

01:19:06.100 And then, COVID happened.

01:19:11.100 And in the middle of June in 2020, when the whole world was shut down, when no one was going to work, I read an article.

01:19:19.100 I should have looked it up before I came out.

01:19:21.100 I believe it was in Rolling Stone, but I could be wrong, which essentially said, it's time to move away from Law & Order SVU.

01:19:30.100 And the reason was, it's time to stop watching Law & Order SVU, because even though it's about a badass female detective who takes down dirty male sex offenders, 1.00

01:19:42.100 it promulgates the lie that some cops are good.

01:19:49.100 And I thought a Hollywood in 2020, a Hollywood that will not make shows about good cops would be as if in 1960, Hollywood decided it couldn't make Westerns.

01:20:02.100 They were literally turning on their bread and butter properties.

01:20:06.100 They were literally turning on their audiences, not just having some disdain for their audience, which they've had for a long time, but actually trying to push their audience away.

01:20:15.100 And Caleb and I were sitting in the office that day, and we realized we achieved our goal.

01:20:21.100 We have the giant spotlight, the marketing spotlight, the audience spotlight that we can put on cultural content.

01:20:27.100 We have the financial resources to begin, to begin making cultural content.

01:20:34.100 But we had also built something by accident.

01:20:38.100 We didn't even know we were doing it.

01:20:40.100 We had built the ability to distribute cultural content, because we had built a piece of technology to allow people to subscribe in order to watch video versions of our podcasts.

01:20:54.100 And that technology was agnostic as to what kind of content we actually put on it.

01:20:59.100 And in that period of time, Dallas Sonier entered our lives.

01:21:04.100 Dallas is here tonight.

01:21:09.100 And Dallas said, hey guys, I've got a movie, and Hollywood ain't gonna touch it.

01:21:33.100 And that movie was Run, Hide, Fight, which became the first feature film released by The Daily Wire.

01:21:43.100 The movie paid for itself in less than a week, because conservatives are willing to support great content, and ain't nobody giving it to them.

01:21:54.100 And that's when things started to change.

01:22:00.100 The very nature of The Daily Wire began to change.

01:22:03.100 Here's the thing.

01:22:04.100 We didn't start moving away from great news.

01:22:06.100 We didn't start moving away from great opinion journalism.

01:22:10.100 We didn't start moving away from commentary and analysis.

01:22:13.100 We doubled down on all of those things.

01:22:15.100 We started hiring investigative journalists.

01:22:17.100 We started up-rezzing our editorial team.

01:22:20.100 We started sending people like Luke Rosiak into the Virginia School Board.

01:22:32.100 And we started helping Republican governors get elected in blue states.

01:22:37.100 But we also started developing cultural content.

01:22:46.100 And in the time in between, we've released, as you know, three more feature films, including one that I'm very proud of, and the entire cast is here tonight.

01:22:56.100 Our most recent feature film, which allowed us to undo the damage done by Disney when they unjustly canceled Gina Carano, Terror on the Prairie.

01:23:15.100 Gina Carano, everybody.

01:23:45.100 And I want to tell you something.

01:24:08.100 Gina and I have never once talked about politics.

01:24:11.100 I have no idea who Gina votes for. 0.69

01:24:13.100 I don't know if Gina's a conservative or not, and I'm not going to ask her while you're all watching.

01:24:19.100 But I can tell you this.

01:24:20.100 Gina was not canceled by Disney for being a rabid right winger. 1.00

01:24:24.100 She was canceled by Disney for not being a rabid left winger. 1.00

01:24:28.100 It is the most unjust cancellation that we have ever seen since cancel culture began.

01:24:34.100 And the movie that Gina produced with Dallas for us, Terror on the Prairie, is an absolute triumph.

01:24:42.100 It is the metaphor for Gina's life.

01:24:47.100 It is a woman standing up against those people who would take everything for her and saying no.

01:24:52.100 And that's exactly what Gina's doing in her real life. 1.00

01:24:54.100 And that's exactly what Gina's doing in her real life. 1.00

01:24:59.100 Nick Searcy is also in the movie, and if you clap for him, I'll walk off the stage.

01:25:18.100 I will walk off the stage.

01:25:33.100 In addition to being an absolutely terrific actor, Nick is a fierce warrior for this country.

01:25:40.100 He's one of the most outspoken actors to come out of Hollywood.

01:25:43.100 He never backs down from a fight. 1.00

01:25:45.100 He's a regular son of a bitch, I'm not going to lie to you. 0.99

01:25:49.100 And we're very glad that he's on our side, Nick. 0.99

01:25:52.100 And of course, not content to cancel Gina for no good reason, Disney also decided that they

01:26:07.100 wanted all of your kids to be transgendered.

01:26:10.100 And so we decided to spend $100 million making kids content.

01:26:25.100 Now you may say, God King, where does this $100 million come from?

01:26:35.100 I'm wondering myself.

01:26:39.100 I can tell you this.

01:26:40.100 The Daily Wire has been approached by six different entities in the last three months about doing

01:26:45.100 a public offering by way of a SPAC.

01:26:48.100 And we have said no.

01:27:00.100 Because money ain't free.

01:27:03.100 If you want to know why great companies, companies filled with people who I deeply respect

01:27:08.100 and deeply admire, companies like Fox News, will run stories about celebrating children

01:27:16.100 who doubted their gender before they were three years old and then transitioned as teenagers.

01:27:22.100 If you want to know why that happens, it's because money ain't free.

01:27:30.100 It's because when you enter into these capital markets, both public and private, when you

01:27:35.100 take money, you are taking people's opinions.

01:27:37.100 And we have made a decision that, and I don't know if we'll be able to do this forever, that

01:27:42.100 for as long as it is humanly possible, we are not going to take money from people who

01:27:47.100 do not agree with the core mission of this company.

01:27:52.100 I appreciate that you will all clap for me, continuing to be able to do this, and I

01:27:54.100 appreciate that you will all clap for me, continuing to be able to do this.

01:27:57.100 I appreciate that you will all clap for me, continuing to be poor.

01:28:22.100 No.

01:28:26.100 Here's the hard part.

01:28:28.100 That means the money has to come from you.

01:28:30.100 It means the people who empower this aren't going to be capital markets.

01:28:35.100 It's not going to be fundraising from billionaires.

01:28:38.100 It's not going to be fundraising from family offices.

01:28:40.100 It's not going to be fundraising from family offices.

01:28:43.100 It's going to be trading value to more and more and more subscribers so that we can keep

01:28:49.100 creating more and more and more value, which we trade again for more and more and more

01:28:54.100 subscribers, just like the way the left does it.

01:29:03.100 If you watch one of our movies and you think, I mean, they didn't quite do everything that I want them to do.

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01:30:15.100 The Daily Wire is pleased to announce tonight that we have hit a huge milestone, 890,000 active subscribers.

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01:31:31.100 But here's the problem. 0.89

01:31:45.100 Nobody really wants a news company to make cartoons.

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01:32:04.100 And so, as we continue to grow, as we continue to expand, as we continue to create content outside of that initial box that we built seven years ago,

01:32:19.100 we've started wondering, what's next?

01:32:23.100 What's beyond the Daily Wire?

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01:32:41.100 What's a brand that can contain movies, a brand that can contain TV series, a brand that can contain kids' content?

01:32:50.100 And we decided the Daily Wire is just not enough.

01:32:53.100 We need something beyond the Daily Wire.

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01:33:21.100 You know we've had some technology problems over the last 30 days.

01:33:28.100 We launched Matt Walsh's seminal documentary, What is a Woman?, and were immediately brought under an enormous DDoS attack

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01:33:42.100 A lot of people who wanted to subscribe couldn't.

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01:34:49.100 There is unbelievable kids content in the market.

01:34:56.100 The beauty of kids content is that unlike adult content, there's always new kids.

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01:35:06.100 Most of it's at Disney, let's be honest.

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01:35:10.100 It's that you can't trust the platform.

01:35:12.100 You can't put your kids in front of a classic piece of Disney content because you don't know that the very next thing that plays won't be that not-so-secret gay agenda that teaches your daughter that she's a boy. 0.82

01:35:24.100 That's why we have to have Daily Wire Plus.

01:35:27.100 And so we've already announced it, but I want to give you an update.

01:35:30.100 On Daily Wire Plus in the spring of 2023, we will be rolling out our very first kids content, the stuff we promised you back in March.

01:35:38.100 And here tonight, I have for you the first tiny taste, the first tiny teaser of our very first animated show, Chipchilla.

01:35:51.100 Ha! It's perfect!

01:35:53.100 Yeah, that works. Not bad.

01:35:55.100 Oh, wait. There. Now it's perfect.

01:35:58.100 Oh! We gotta get the sign in there!

01:36:00.100 No, no, no, no, no, no!

01:36:02.100 Oh, wait!

01:36:03.100 You know what? I'd say it's a hit.

01:36:04.100 I knew they'd like it.

01:36:05.100 Yay! 0.99

01:36:06.100 Woo-hoo! 1.00

01:36:07.100 They love it!

01:36:08.100 That's pretty fun. Let me get in on that.

01:36:09.100 Ooh! 0.96

01:36:10.100 Ooh! 0.96

01:36:11.100 That's wet!

01:36:12.100 Whoa! 0.71

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01:36:37.100 Why does it matter?

01:36:39.100 It matters because kids go to school for 40 hours a week, and then they engage in pop culture for 40 more hours every week.

01:36:50.100 That means for 80 hours of a child's week, you are turning them over to the left.

01:36:57.100 A good parent might spend 15 minutes a day in deep, not deep, but meaningful conversation with their kids.

01:37:06.100 I don't mean wash your hands, make your bed, I mean actually engaging with them on ideas.

01:37:10.100 A great parent might take their kid to church for one hour, or two hours, or three hours a week.

01:37:16.100 The other 80, they're watching Disney.

01:37:20.100 The other 80, they're online.

01:37:22.100 The other 80, they're in public schools.

01:37:24.100 We have to challenge the left every single place that it lives.

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01:38:14.100 As you know, this company, from before it was ever founded, has had a great relationship with PragerU.

01:38:27.100 PragerU started with a simple premise between Alan Estrin and Dennis Prager,

01:38:30.100 that if you gave them five minutes, they would give you an education.

01:38:34.100 I love when the left gets angry and says,

01:38:36.100 They're not a real university.

01:38:38.100 You're damn right, you can trust your kids with them.

01:38:40.100 Since its founding, PragerU videos have been viewed five billion times.

01:38:57.100 Tonight, I'm proud to tell you that not only is the Daily Wire continuing its relationship with PragerU,

01:39:02.100 which means hosting their entire library behind our paywall to bring value to our subscribers and additional audience for PragerU.

01:39:19.100 We're actually expanding our relationship.

01:39:21.100 Right now, Prager is already in the business of giving you terrific five-minute videos, giving you terrific kids content.

01:39:27.100 They're one of the earliest companies into the space of making premium kids content for conservatives.

01:39:34.100 But we're going to launch something behind our paywall only, a completely exclusive piece of content,

01:39:39.100 a premium piece of content, called the PragerU master's program.

01:39:44.100 These will be highly produced, incredibly deep, 45-minute episodes featuring Dennis Prager himself,

01:40:00.100 and he's here tonight to tell you a little bit about it.

01:40:03.100 Thank you, thank you.

01:40:24.100 Thank you.

01:40:31.100 Well, Dennis, it's been a long time in coming.

01:40:34.100 First of all, thank you for being the second Jew in the state of Tennessee.

01:40:41.100 But actually, I have a family history going back with you personally.

01:40:47.100 Obviously, you are a formative person in my own parents' experience moving toward religiosity in Judaism,

01:40:53.100 as you were for so many people moving toward deeper, more religious thought.

01:40:57.100 And in your new PragerU master class series for DW+, you're going to be taking the deepest issues,

01:41:03.100 and you're going to be diving all the way down to the bottom in 45 minutes or less.

01:41:07.100 So, I'm going to give you like a few minutes right now to dive down to this question.

01:41:11.100 What is the biggest moral crisis facing the country right now?

01:41:14.100 Secularization.

01:41:16.100 I have devoted my life.

01:41:20.100 Most conservatives don't agree with us or with me on this particular subject.

01:41:26.100 Whenever I summarize my life's work, and it's, I'll be 40 years on radio in August,

01:41:33.100 and whenever I summarize it, I say, really, there has been one overwhelming theme,

01:41:38.100 the consequences of secularism.

01:41:41.100 Secularism is wonderful for government.

01:41:44.100 It's wonderful for the sciences, and it's awful for the rest of life.

01:41:48.100 And most conservatives don't know that.

01:41:52.100 Many religious people don't know it, and certainly don't know how to make the case for it.

01:41:56.100 But everything that we're seeing, all the chaos that we are seeing now is a result of the death of God and the Bible as the most important book in American life.

01:42:06.100 And now I want to tell you, Ben doesn't know this, and I can't think of a more appropriate place to say this.

01:42:24.100 It's a very touching, tiny little story.

01:42:27.100 You will all be moved, and even Ben.

01:42:30.100 I can't bet on that, but...

01:42:32.100 So I spoke in the Czech Republic about a year ago.

01:42:38.100 Exactly a year ago.

01:42:39.100 I spoke to some young people in the Czech Republic.

01:42:43.100 And a guy came over to me, a guy about 28 years old, and in front of all of those gathered said as follows,

01:42:52.100 I just want you to know, and I'm going to choke up saying it because my wife was present and we were all overwhelmed.

01:43:00.100 And this guy said to me, I just want you to know, Ben Shapiro brought me to conservatism, and you brought me to God.

01:43:09.100 Isn't that beautiful?

01:43:15.100 And, of course, my immediate reaction was, I didn't bring you to conservatism.

01:43:21.100 No, no, no.

01:43:22.100 That was a joke.

01:43:23.100 It was a joke.

01:43:24.100 Okay.

01:43:25.100 But I thought, this is the Czech Republic.

01:43:31.100 We're being heard, we're being...

01:43:33.100 And it's important to me that kids and young people in the Czech Republic...

01:43:38.100 I have a theory that Eastern Europe will save Western Europe in the final analysis, but that's another issue.

01:43:44.100 Anyway, this project that I'm going to be doing with you, it's such a beautiful thing how much we work together.

01:43:53.100 We have one employer, him, and we also, we know, that is PragerU and Daily Wire know, that if America fails,

01:44:11.100 the world will be plummeted into a dark, cruel age.

01:44:16.100 And that's a given.

01:44:19.100 As I've said so often, if they really gave the Nobel Peace Prize to those who deserved it, the American Armed Forces would win it every year.

01:44:26.100 So, Ben, the thought of doing this whole series of very intense, but obviously fascinating and even entertaining videos with you is one of the highlights of my life.

01:44:51.100 Well, we obviously feel the same, and we are so excited to have you on board.

01:44:55.100 Dennis, I feel like we've reached a point in American life, I would say five years ago, I may have been more pessimistic about where the country was than any time.

01:45:02.100 And then during COVID, maybe even worse than that.

01:45:05.100 Right.

01:45:06.100 And now, I've got to tell you, it feels like we're not seeing the actual light at the end of the tunnel, but it's starting to get a little lighter.

01:45:12.100 It feels like we're on the upswing.

01:45:14.100 It feels like finally, for the first time really in my adult lifetime, we are really beginning to win.

01:45:19.100 Oh, I do agree with that, but I do want to say something to, not to pour any cold water on that.

01:45:26.100 That's a fact that we are beginning.

01:45:29.100 But I want you to know, and I think you'll appreciate this, I'm asked all the time, so Dennis, are you optimistic or pessimistic?

01:45:38.100 And this is my, not only the answer I give people, but it's what I believe.

01:45:43.100 But of course, I tell people what I believe, so I shouldn't have had to add that.

01:45:48.100 But in any event, I say, you know what, I'm not particularly interested in either optimism or pessimism.

01:45:58.100 Because ironically, they both conserve a negative purpose.

01:46:03.100 The optimist thinks everything will turn out well, why fight?

01:46:07.100 The pessimist thinks everything will turn out lousy, why fight?

01:46:11.100 I never ask if I'm optimistic or pessimistic.

01:46:14.100 I ask, what do I have to do?

01:46:16.100 And the answer is fight.

01:46:18.100 That is the only question that matters.

01:46:21.100 And I just...

01:46:29.100 A moment that changed my life was standing at Normandy Beach and seeing all the gravestones

01:46:34.100 of basically kids who were 20 years old being slaughtered by Nazi machine guns on the beach.

01:46:41.100 And I think about them a lot.

01:46:44.100 I took a vow that day, I did, to myself.

01:46:48.100 If they could die for America and freedom, I could live for America and freedom.

01:46:54.100 So that was the vow I took.

01:46:56.100 But I raise it because of the pessimism-optimism question.

01:47:03.100 I don't know if every guy getting on that beach was an optimist.

01:47:07.100 They didn't ask, are they optimistic?

01:47:10.100 They asked, what do I have to do?

01:47:12.100 That's what we have to ask every day.

01:47:14.100 What do I have to do?

01:47:16.100 And the answer is clear.

01:47:17.100 Fight.

01:47:18.100 Dennis, this is the thing I think people love about you.

01:47:28.100 It's one of the things that people love about us here at Daily Wire is that we're fighting,

01:47:31.100 and we're trying to fight smart.

01:47:33.100 It's not just about fighting.

01:47:34.100 That's right.

01:47:35.100 It's also about picking the right targets.

01:47:36.100 It's about hitting the right targets.

01:47:37.100 It's about being kind and cordial even while you're pummeling the wrong ideas.

01:47:41.100 And this is something that you really are an expert in.

01:47:45.100 Can you talk about the approach that conservatives should be using in trying to convince other

01:47:49.100 people, because you've convinced millions of people into conservative...

01:47:52.100 I mean, not as many as I have, but lots of people into conservatives.

01:47:56.100 I met...

01:48:00.100 The best answer I could give is a guy I met at Philadelphia Airport about three years ago.

01:48:06.100 And being a guy and being heterosexual, I don't walk around thinking, is this guy handsome?

01:48:14.100 So if I meet a guy who I think is handsome, he's handsome.

01:48:19.100 Dennis, this is not Disney.

01:48:23.100 I'm sorry?

01:48:24.100 It's Daily Wire Plus.

01:48:25.100 This is not Disney.

01:48:26.100 Okay.

01:48:27.100 I'm sorry.

01:48:28.100 What can I tell you?

01:48:29.100 I say what I think and sleep well as a result.

01:48:32.100 So I meet this guy.

01:48:34.100 I'm 6'4".

01:48:35.100 He's 6'4", but he's thinner than me.

01:48:37.100 And anyway, he's...

01:48:39.100 So he starts...

01:48:40.100 He comes over to Dennis Prager.

01:48:42.100 It's a pleasure to meet you.

01:48:44.100 It's wonderful.

01:48:45.100 And I detect a very, very slight accent.

01:48:51.100 And so I say, even though the left, for some sick reason, says it's wrong to ask people

01:48:57.100 where they're from, I can't think of a more wonderful question to ask.

01:49:01.100 It means I'm interested in you, right?

01:49:04.100 Isn't that like a healthy question to ask?

01:49:07.100 So I say to the guy, I said, I'm sorry, I'm just curious, where are you from?

01:49:12.100 And he says, Norway.

01:49:14.100 So again, saying what I think, I go, you're a conservative in Norway?

01:49:22.100 And his answer was awesome.

01:49:25.100 He said, I don't know if I'm conservative.

01:49:28.100 I'm just logical.

01:49:31.100 And that is the whole point.

01:49:35.100 I have believed that if you just make logical points, logical and moral points, you will

01:49:44.100 win anyone who is open to hearing you.

01:49:48.100 Well, folks, that's exactly what you're going to get at the Prager University Masterclass

01:49:57.100 at Daily Wire Plus, those logical arguments that you can hand to all your friends, all

01:50:00.100 the people you work with.

01:50:01.100 You are going to become a person who's now a warrior and a messenger for all of the messages

01:50:05.100 that Dennis has been pushing.

01:50:07.100 And Dennis, I got to say, it's such an honor and a pleasure to finally be officially working

01:50:11.100 with you here at Daily Wire Plus.

01:50:14.100 Thank you.

01:50:15.100 Thank you.

01:50:16.100 Thank you all.

01:50:17.100 I look forward.

01:50:18.100 All right.

01:50:19.100 Great.

01:50:20.100 And folks.

01:50:21.100 Thank you again.

01:50:22.100 Thank you.

01:50:23.100 Thank you.

01:50:24.100 We're not done quite yet.

01:50:28.100 So it's been a good seven years.

01:50:39.100 We've accomplished so many of our goals.

01:50:41.100 We're so excited about the things that have come.

01:50:44.100 We're so excited about the things that are yet ahead.

01:50:46.100 We're so thrilled to be bringing you Daily Wire Plus.

01:50:49.100 We're so thrilled to be bringing you more and more culture-shaping content.

01:50:53.100 Thrilled to be bringing you more journalism, more movies, probably some more consumer goods

01:50:58.100 because, you know, a men's razor, men aren't the only people who shave.

01:51:02.100 That's for the next town hall.

01:51:12.100 And we're thrilled to be bringing you kids content in the spring of 2023.

01:51:17.100 We can't wait to go through the next seven years with you.

01:51:21.100 But I will tell you one more thing since you're here.

01:51:23.100 I mean, sure, Daily Wire Plus is going to have the Daily Wire.

01:51:30.100 And sure, we're going to expand our relationship with PragerU.

01:51:33.100 And sure, we're going to make more movies.

01:51:35.100 And sure, we're going to make kids content.

01:51:38.100 But I got one more plus.

01:51:41.100 Here it is.

01:51:43.100 So, that's a thing.

01:52:05.100 So, Jordan Peterson, it is obviously a massive honor having you on the Daily Wire Plus platform,

01:52:16.100 bringing all this amazing content to millions more people, hundreds of millions more people.

01:52:22.100 And here's the thing, folks.

01:52:25.100 The first series from Jordan Peterson is up right now, literally right now, at Daily Wire Plus.

01:52:31.100 It is titled, Dragons, Monsters, and Men.

01:52:35.100 Take a look.

01:52:36.100 One of the things I tell young men, well, and young women as well,

01:52:39.100 but the young men really need to hear this more, I think. 0.99

01:52:42.100 You should be a monster, an absolute monster. 0.99

01:52:45.100 And then you should learn how to control it. 0.99

01:52:49.100 So, a man who's capable of aggression, but has it under control,

01:52:52.100 is a way more useful man than one who cannot do that.

01:52:56.100 And so you're willing to go get a job, but you're terrified of an interview.

01:52:59.100 It's like, there's a dragon for you.

01:53:01.100 Because you want to fight the dragons that guard the gates of the treasure that you wish to attain.

01:53:08.100 Productivity requires aim, orientation, responsibility, discipline, that willingness to work,

01:53:16.100 that willingness to make sacrifices, which is the hallmark of maturity in the service of a higher goal.

01:53:21.100 It orients you solidly in the world if you do that.

01:53:24.100 And it gives you a dragon to fight.

01:53:28.100 So, Jordan, obviously this new series, Dragons, Monsters, Men, the first one that we're doing together,

01:53:47.100 this series is focused in on how men can be men.

01:53:50.100 Why do you think there is such a crisis of masculinity in the first place?

01:53:53.100 And why are there so many people out there who are angry at you for even talking to men?

01:53:57.100 Well, I think you could think about it as a consequence, in some sense,

01:54:03.100 of the lack of a concept of original sin, oddly enough.

01:54:08.100 I mean, people bear an existential burden, you know.

01:54:12.100 It's an intrinsic part of life to, I suppose, to feel guilty in relationship to nature

01:54:20.100 and to feel guilty in relationship to culture.

01:54:23.100 You know, it's difficult for us to live in harmony with the natural world,

01:54:28.100 and for the natural world to live in harmony with us, by the way.

01:54:32.100 And none of us are all we could be on the social front.

01:54:35.100 And one of the consequences, and so we have that sense intrinsically,

01:54:40.100 you know, that there's a lack in us that needs to be redressed.

01:54:43.100 And unfortunately, that can be weaponized and has been.

01:54:50.100 And what I see happening to young men in particular, boys as well, not just young men,

01:54:56.100 and maybe even, you know, maybe starting at the age of toddlers,

01:55:00.100 is that we have this sense in the world that human beings live in antagonism to nature

01:55:07.100 and that we're actually a malevolent force.

01:55:10.100 And that our social structures, which are clearly capable of the commission of atrocity,

01:55:15.100 are fundamentally oppressive, patriarchal in their nature.

01:55:18.100 And so then if you're a male in a society with that ethos,

01:55:23.100 you're...the motive force that drives you into the world to live

01:55:28.100 is associated with rapaciousness and despoilation on the natural front,

01:55:35.100 and then oppression and atrocity on the social front.

01:55:39.100 It's like, well, then, if you're the least bit conscientious,

01:55:44.100 because this sort of accusation hurts conscientious young men the most, 0.74

01:55:48.100 then the best you can do is, well, let's say castrate yourself.

01:55:53.100 How would that be? And that would be real comical, except that it's also happening.

01:55:58.100 So I guess that's why I think there's a crisis.

01:56:03.100 And there's something serious at the root of it, right?

01:56:07.100 Because we do have to take the fact of our...

01:56:10.100 the potential damage we can do to the natural world and the social world.

01:56:17.100 We have to take that seriously, but the proper consequence of taking that seriously

01:56:24.100 is not to commit Harry Carey, let's say, in a fit of moral anxiety

01:56:30.100 and take yourself completely out of the game.

01:56:32.100 But that's the insistence now, and it's really...

01:56:34.100 And I see that psychoanalytically, you know?

01:56:36.100 I see that as a manifestation at a symbolic level of something like...

01:56:41.100 Well, symbolically, that's associated with the devouring mother, right?

01:56:45.100 It's an overweening and destructive false compassion

01:56:50.100 that has this devouring quality, and...

01:56:53.100 Yeah, and that's basically where we're at, so...

01:56:56.100 So...

01:57:01.100 You know, it's...

01:57:02.100 One of the things that's striking about the sort of hatred that you've gotten from so many

01:57:05.100 is that you've literally been asked why you're even bothering to speak to men.

01:57:09.100 I mean, there is this crisis of masculinity, right?

01:57:11.100 There is this idea that every form of masculinity is toxic.

01:57:15.100 And you've spent your life trying to talk to men and say,

01:57:17.100 no, no, you can channel that masculinity in not only a good way,

01:57:20.100 but a necessary and productive and useful way.

01:57:23.100 And people have gotten angry at you for this.

01:57:25.100 Where do you think that's coming from?

01:57:27.100 That's obviously a good thing that you're doing.

01:57:29.100 Why are so many people upset with you for that?

01:57:31.100 Well, the thing is, I never really set out to talk to men specifically.

01:57:34.100 But I did set out, at least in part, to make a case for the utility

01:57:38.100 of both the feminine and the masculine spirit.

01:57:41.100 And it turned out that making the case for the masculine spirit

01:57:44.100 was something that was more demanded by the culture, let's say.

01:57:48.100 The anger, that's a complicated issue.

01:57:51.100 We touched on some of it in relationship to the despoiling of nature

01:57:55.100 and the idea of the oppressive and atrocity-committing patriarchy.

01:58:01.100 But then there's another issue, too, which I think is germane.

01:58:05.100 Because of family fragmentation, there's a very large number of women who have, 1.00

01:58:13.100 just like there's a very large number of men who have never had a real word of encouragement in their whole life.

01:58:19.100 It's a really sad thing to see.

01:58:21.100 It's a really, really sad thing to see, to see that deeply

01:58:24.100 and to have seen that reflected in so many thousands of people.

01:58:26.100 But there are many women who've never had a positive relationship with anyone male in their life.

01:58:32.100 And so one of the consequences of that, we know, for example,

01:58:36.100 that younger women are more likely to be attracted to men who show dark triad traits.

01:58:42.100 Narcissistic, Machiavellian, and psychopathic.

01:58:45.100 And people who have those traits are characterized by the mimicry of competence.

01:58:51.100 And so what women want in men more than anything else is competent generosity.

01:58:55.100 And the data on that are very clear.

01:58:57.100 But you can mimic that if you're narcissistic.

01:58:59.100 And if you're a young woman, you can be deluded by that.

01:59:03.100 It's partly because it points to the problem of dissociating competent confidence

01:59:10.100 from the expression of power, per se.

01:59:14.100 So we could call power, I'll define that as the willingness and ability to use compulsion to attain your aims.

01:59:23.100 Now, if you are someone who has a proclivity to manifest power,

01:59:28.100 then that looks like the manifestation of both ambition and will.

01:59:32.100 And if you haven't had a positive relationship with anyone masculine in your life,

01:59:37.100 and maybe not even with your own internal masculinity, say,

01:59:41.100 you can't discriminate between power and competent, the ambition that serves competence.

01:59:49.100 And so, because that's terrifying, because the power, if you have had only negative relationships with men,

01:59:55.100 their capability to use power becomes such a threat that it has to be opposed at all costs.

02:00:02.100 Even if it manifests itself within the, say, within the developmental pathway of your own son.

02:00:09.100 And so, some of that's familial breakdown.

02:00:12.100 And then you have a multi-generational pattern of that that makes it even worse.

02:00:16.100 And so that's definitely part of it.

02:00:19.100 You know, there's an ideological drum that's being beaten constantly,

02:00:23.100 both on the sociological constructivist front, right, that's the oppressive patriarchy,

02:00:28.100 and then on the environmental front, and then you add to that the fact that, 0.99

02:00:32.100 well, on the leftists, especially the radical types, their whole damn doctrine, 0.98

02:00:36.100 it's the most pathological doctrine you could invent if you set out to invent a pathological doctrine. 0.99

02:00:41.100 And I mean that. I'm not making a joke.

02:00:44.100 I really mean that in the deepest possible sense.

02:00:47.100 The notion that the fundamental human motivation is the willingness and ability to use compulsion.

02:00:53.100 Power. Power. It's all about power.

02:00:56.100 And every time I hear that now from someone, I think,

02:00:59.100 that is not a sociological observation.

02:01:02.100 That is a confession on your part. 0.96

02:01:06.100 And so, and it's also just complete bloody nonsense. 0.91

02:01:09.100 I mean, you all know this.

02:01:13.100 You have friends because they're compelled to be your friends?

02:01:17.100 Like, that's definitely not how you have friends.

02:01:20.100 You might have bully henchmen that way, but you don't have friends.

02:01:25.100 Power is an extraordinarily unstable basis to establish a marriage on.

02:01:30.100 Plus, it just doesn't work because it turns out that women who are so annoying are very difficult to oppress. 1.00

02:01:36.100 You know?

02:01:37.100 So, you can try, but it's not that easy.

02:01:41.100 And I don't think that we've been all that historically successful in doing so.

02:01:46.100 But it's also a preposterous proposition because the expression of power within an intimate relationship does not produce intimacy or a relationship.

02:01:59.100 The best it can produce is like a combination of tyranny and slavery.

02:02:03.100 And that does not characterize the institution of marriage per se.

02:02:08.100 So, there is this insistence among the radicals that power is the fundamental motivation.

02:02:15.100 And then you think, too, okay, you're only motivated by power.

02:02:19.100 That means that we can only get along if our interests align.

02:02:22.100 Because if you're motivated by power, and I'm motivated by power, and our interests don't align, and there's nothing else but power, 0.93

02:02:29.100 then the only option I have is to turn you into an enemy and try to destroy you.

02:02:33.100 Because we can't engage in dialogue. 0.97

02:02:36.100 That's dialogos.

02:02:37.100 And the reason we can't engage in dialogue is because there's no logos.

02:02:40.100 There's just power.

02:02:42.100 So, there's no such...

02:02:43.100 This is why it's a good thing for conservatives to understand.

02:02:45.100 You have to understand that the debate about free speech on campus, in the deepest sense, is not a debate about who should be allowed to speak freely.

02:02:55.100 That's nothing.

02:02:56.100 That's a trivial debate.

02:02:58.100 You can even understand it in some sense if I don't agree with you.

02:03:01.100 Maybe I don't want you to talk.

02:03:03.100 But the debate is about something much deeper, which is whether or not the idea of free speech itself is just a mask developed essentially by Europeans to justify the oppressive patriarchy in the most devious possible way. 0.51

02:03:20.100 And the answer the radicals have to that question is, yes, that's exactly what it is.

02:03:25.100 And so, there's no free speech whatsoever.

02:03:28.100 That's an illusion that's promulgated by people who are only trying to justify their claim to power.

02:03:34.100 That's what the bloody argument is about.

02:03:36.100 And so...

02:03:37.100 And I just think all of that's...

02:03:39.100 It's wrong in every way.

02:03:41.100 It's wrong theologically.

02:03:42.100 It's wrong psychologically.

02:03:43.100 It's wrong scientifically.

02:03:44.100 Even chimpanzees who have a patriarchal social structure, their social structures, if they are based on power, on compulsion, they're unstable.

02:03:58.100 And the alpha chimps who use power are very likely to meet an extraordinarily brutal and premature end. 0.97

02:04:04.100 So, Franz de Waal, the Dutch primatologist, has detailed out this wonderfully.

02:04:08.100 He's shown that even among our closest biological relatives, it's the ability to make peace and to engage in reciprocal interactions that constitutes the basis for a stable polity.

02:04:19.100 Even among chimps.

02:04:20.100 And it's obviously the case that that's the proper basis for social relations, especially among free people.

02:04:28.100 And I've been trying to puzzle out, especially in my lecture to it recently, what the antithesis to power is, or to the will to power, let's say, in terms of arbitrary compulsion.

02:04:39.100 And it's something like the spirit of free and voluntary play.

02:04:44.100 And that's a wonderful thing to know.

02:04:46.100 It's so optimistic.

02:04:47.100 You guys were talking about optimism earlier, you know.

02:04:49.100 If you're...

02:04:50.100 So imagine this, is that if you structure your relations optimally, and I mean optimally, with yourself, with your intimate partner, with your family, with your community,

02:05:00.100 the highest level of attainment of that structuring is the manifestation of the spirit of voluntary play.

02:05:07.100 And that's so lovely, because there's nothing better than playing, fundamentally.

02:05:12.100 And, you know, human beings, and other mammals as well, also have a biological circuit that mediates play.

02:05:18.100 And that was discovered by a man named Jak Panksepp.

02:05:20.100 And he showed that play is unbelievably important to the development of children for a variety of complicated reasons,

02:05:27.100 partly because they're practicing to be competent adults, but also that it can be suppressed by almost any other emotion or motivation.

02:05:34.100 So your kids can't really play if they're hungry or tired or wet or upset.

02:05:40.100 The same would apply within your relationship.

02:05:42.100 If there's stresses and tensions, the play disappears.

02:05:45.100 But if you optimize the relationship and the circumstance, then the spirit of play can manifest itself.

02:05:51.100 And I would also say that's also the fundamental purpose of fathers, in some sense, is to imagine that paradise, that's a walled garden.

02:05:59.100 That's what paradise means.

02:06:00.100 So it's walls, structure, and then the garden inside is nature, and a nature that's tended.

02:06:06.100 That the masculine role in child rearing is something like the erection of the walls, so that play can manifest itself within the walls.

02:06:15.100 And that's a real good combination of security, because that's what the walls are for, but then the kind of freedom that allows for untrammeled development to occur in the most positive possible sense.

02:06:26.100 And so I would say that those of us who are standing against the radicals who insist that the only human motivation is power can impose that in part by putting forward the observation that the proper antithesis to that is the spirit of voluntary play.

02:06:42.100 And that's what I hope we're going to do with the Daily Wire, right? Because that's what we've been doing.

02:06:47.100 Well, as I say, folks, we could not be more pumped up and ecstatic about having Jordan Peterson here at Daily Wire Plus.

02:06:59.100 Dragons, Monsters of Men is available right now at Daily Wire Plus.

02:07:01.100 Jordan, you want to come join us here for the rest of backstage?

02:07:04.100 Absolutely, man.

02:07:12.100 So we're very pleased to be joined with what I think is the greatest super band in the history of the rock era.

02:07:32.100 The largest round table panel ever assembled.

02:07:37.100 It's going to make it a little tough because it's not easy to hear up here.

02:07:42.100 There's a lot of echo.

02:07:43.100 And so the crosstalk might be difficult with this many of us on stage.

02:07:46.100 So what I've asked the team to do is put together about 30 questions that our members have submitted to us throughout the evening.

02:07:54.100 I'm going to read these questions.

02:07:56.100 And then if you'll just give me the little bit of grace on stage, it's hard.

02:07:59.100 Give me just a little bit of grace to be able to moderate.

02:08:01.100 We're going to kick these questions around.

02:08:03.100 We'll give answers.

02:08:05.100 We'll do our best to be quick.

02:08:06.100 In fact, I'm going to say there's three rules on the stage tonight.

02:08:09.100 Rule number one, don't try to answer a question unless I give it to you directly.

02:08:15.100 Rule number two, try to keep your answers under 75 minutes long.

02:08:21.100 Rule number three, do not tweet that Ellen Page is a woman who had her breasts removed by a criminal's office. 1.00

02:08:30.100 Strike one. 0.74

02:08:31.100 Strike one.

02:08:32.100 Strike one.

02:08:33.100 There we go.

02:08:38.100 This first question, I'm going to kick this first one to Drew because I actually know a very sad story that happened, Drew, in your own life along these lines.

02:08:47.100 And the question is, how is it possible to remain friends with people while disagreeing with them vehemently, especially on black and white issues such as abortion?

02:08:56.100 I think you could probably plug in any number of issues into that question.

02:09:01.100 Strangely, I've never found it difficult to remain friends with people I deeply disagree with because I am not as interested in their disagreement as I am in their hearts and what's coming out of them.

02:09:10.100 I know many, I have many close friends who I disagree with at a very deep level.

02:09:14.100 But apparently this trait is not universally shared because I have lost many friends and I've lost relatives, people very dear to me, simply by my opinions.

02:09:23.100 And I think the answer is quite simple.

02:09:26.100 It's the basic Christian idea that another person's inner life is as important to him as yours is to you and both are equally important to God.

02:09:34.100 And when you remember that, it's easy to let people disagree as long as you're willing to speak the truth back at them, whether they like it or not.

02:09:48.100 This question is for Michael.

02:09:49.100 I don't know why I'm actually letting the audience tell me who the question is.

02:09:53.100 You don't even need a moderator.

02:09:54.100 Michael, I don't advocate for this, but assuming it can be done without packing the court fully in favor of one political leaning or another,

02:10:01.100 is there any logic to more than nine justices?

02:10:04.100 No, there is not.

02:10:05.100 There have been other numbers of justices throughout the history of the United States, but the number has been settled at nine for a long time.

02:10:14.100 And the last time that they tried to pack the court, it was done for nakedly partisan reasons.

02:10:19.100 That was FDR who was trying to cram through his unconstitutional New Deal programs and the court was saying no to him.

02:10:25.100 So he was threatening to pack it.

02:10:27.100 Now, we were able to avoid this constitutional crisis because the court eventually sort of just went along with the New Deal programs and it saved the nine justices.

02:10:36.100 But it would be done not for a reason of government stability or better balancing out the three branches.

02:10:43.100 It would be done in a nakedly partisan way.

02:10:46.100 And then it's a never-ending arms race.

02:10:48.100 Republicans get in.

02:10:49.100 We pack all our judges and then it goes up and up.

02:10:51.100 And eventually we'll have 330 million judges on the Supreme Court and we won't be able to get anything done.

02:10:56.100 So I just think there is no logical reason.

02:10:59.100 It would be the raw exercise of power.

02:11:03.100 And we would not have dialogue.

02:11:05.100 We would not have an ordinary political order.

02:11:07.100 We would very possibly not have self-government.

02:11:10.100 Yeah.

02:11:11.100 Candice, this is a great question.

02:11:13.100 In a world where women and men seem to be switching roles and the meaning of strong woman seems to be being warped, what do you think it means to be a strong woman?

02:11:20.100 I think what it means to be a strong woman is to lean into your femininity, is to lean into your nature.

02:11:27.100 I've never felt more sure in my life or on my own two feet more sure of who I am than when I got married and I started having children.

02:11:38.100 You start to realize that nature, nature overrides everything.

02:11:42.100 And I am trying to, in my best capacity, inspire women to recognize that before it's too late, before the curse,

02:11:50.100 which Dennis and I have spoken about on his show and on my show, of rotten feminism, modern feminism, takes a hold of their life before it's too late. 0.99

02:11:59.100 Because unfortunately, as women, we do have, you know, our bodies are a ticking bomb in terms of our fertility. 1.00

02:12:06.100 And many women that grab onto these ideas when they're younger and believe that feminism is going to lead to happiness end up in the life of despair and sorrow, 1.00

02:12:14.100 because they never leaned into their femininity and their nature.

02:12:17.100 It is true. Men have a longer time horizon for coming out of the fog.

02:12:22.100 I'm going to break my own rule because this question, I really want to hear everyone's thoughts on this particular question.

02:12:28.100 On this stage, every single one of us is in a happy marriage, as far as I know.

02:12:33.100 My wife is not, but I am.

02:12:36.100 Good one.

02:12:42.100 Andrea asks a question which I think a lot of people have absolutely no framework for because we live in an era of the collapse of marriage in our society.

02:12:53.100 You know, the complete sort of breakdown of the family unit that you were describing a moment ago, Dr. Peterson.

02:12:59.100 And so Andrea asks, what is the secret to a healthy and happy marriage?

02:13:03.100 I think that's it's actually a very well composed question, a healthy and happy marriage.

02:13:08.100 Drew, let's start with you.

02:13:09.100 Yeah, I got 42 years and my wife.

02:13:12.100 And it's possible she's here tonight if she hasn't gotten up and gone home.

02:13:21.100 You know, I used to answer that it was simple politeness, treating each other with kindness.

02:13:27.100 But then I realized what I was really saying is that it's gratitude.

02:13:31.100 It is gratitude for the invisible things that your spouse does for you every single day and does for you simply by existing and including her and including him in your own achievements and in your own ego.

02:13:45.100 My wife is as much a part of my ego as I am.

02:13:48.100 Her pain is my pain.

02:13:49.100 Her joy is my joy.

02:13:50.100 I hope she feels that way about me.

02:13:52.100 And I think that takes time to establish and kindness and gratitude are the way to take that time until you're so much one entity that you just feel with each other and care so much for each other that you're there for one another when you need them.

02:14:07.100 Can we go around this way?

02:14:13.100 Because I don't want to have to go after Jordan Peterson.

02:14:15.100 Okay, good.

02:14:19.100 I'll allow it.

02:14:20.100 I think, look, I think that's a, I think, actually, to be honest, I was going to say gratitude.

02:14:37.100 So I actually have nothing to say now.

02:14:39.100 I think a big key to a healthy marriage is to root out the spirit of competition in a marriage because, or at least to channel it in a healthy way because a lot of times, especially when you bring kids into the mix, you get into this competitive thing where it's like, well, I did this around the house and I was up with the kid, you know, in the middle of the night for X amount of hours and you're not doing this.

02:15:04.100 And you've got this scorecard, you're keeping score all the time.

02:15:08.100 And that's why I think it's so toxic these days when you hear from people that, well, a marriage is supposed to be 50-50, you know, it'd be 50-50 equal partners.

02:15:17.100 And that's exactly the wrong approach because then you're always measuring, well, I'm at 49 right now and you're at 51.

02:15:22.100 No, you both just give of yourselves 100% and you don't worry about competition.

02:15:28.100 And you channel the competition through board games in your marriage.

02:15:39.100 You take the board games very seriously.

02:15:42.100 My wife and I have just gone to bed angry at each other because of board games before. 0.99

02:15:47.100 Like the Bible says to do.

02:15:48.100 Yeah.

02:15:49.100 But that's okay as long as it's for board games.

02:15:51.100 Yeah.

02:15:52.100 Well, we banned board games in my house when my husband and I decided to play Scrabble and we realized he had English spelling of words.

02:15:57.100 So obviously honor is not spelled with a U. We're in America.

02:16:02.100 This is America.

02:16:03.100 This is America.

02:16:04.100 This is America.

02:16:05.100 Just saying that for the record.

02:16:07.100 But I'm going to kind of say my last answer again and restate that the symbiotic nature of the masculinity and the femininity.

02:16:15.100 I'm not trying to be my husband.

02:16:16.100 My husband is not trying to be me.

02:16:18.100 And especially when you have children, you realize how children really grow when they have both.

02:16:24.100 You know, the things that my husband is concerned with when it comes to our child are things that I don't even think twice of.

02:16:30.100 He needs that maternity and that paternity. 0.99

02:16:32.100 And it's just been beautiful to see how, you know, how right the Bible is on absolutely everything.

02:16:42.100 And if you.

02:16:43.100 So you have a unique perspective on this because you say that divorce is a mitzvah is a what?

02:16:52.100 Well, that is actually as Ben can can attest to.

02:16:56.100 It is a statement actually by the greatest Jewish commentator.

02:16:59.100 Dennis Prager.

02:17:00.100 I.

02:17:01.100 Thank you.

02:17:02.100 I would I will take it slightly differently what to avoid rather than what to do.

02:17:14.100 And there are two things that I think people need to avoid and not an order of importance.

02:17:20.100 One is taking the other for granted.

02:17:22.100 I think that people should date for the rest of their lives.

02:17:27.100 When you try to win that person to be your spouse, look at how much you did.

02:17:33.100 Make sure how you looked, how you acted.

02:17:36.100 Everything about you was I want to win this person.

02:17:39.100 Then you win that person.

02:17:41.100 And then within a year or 10 years or 20 years, it all goes to hell.

02:17:46.100 I stopped trying to win this person.

02:17:51.100 My favorite English verb is earn.

02:17:53.100 It's one of the only languages in the world that has the word earn.

02:17:57.100 In all Latin languages, you say I win an income.

02:18:01.100 In America, in English, you say I earn.

02:18:04.100 The other one is my happiness thesis that you are not allowed to inflict your bad mood on

02:18:12.100 others any more than you can inflict your bad breath on others.

02:18:17.100 You are obligated to wash away your bad mood just as you wash away your bad breath.

02:18:32.100 Someone named Pam asked, what is a man?

02:18:34.100 And I'm going to answer the question by going after Dr. Peterson.

02:18:37.100 Well, I actually don't think it's a good question.

02:18:46.100 And I'll tell you why.

02:18:48.100 I mean, I think happy is a pretty low goal.

02:18:52.100 I mean, first of all, there's going to be lots of times in your marriage where you are seriously not happy.

02:19:00.100 And sometimes that's going to be because you're having conflict with your partner.

02:19:04.100 But sometimes it's going to be because all hell is broken loose around you.

02:19:07.100 And then if you judge the success of your marriage on your happiness,

02:19:13.100 like then the same thing happens if you judge your success in life on the basis of your happiness.

02:19:19.100 What do you have when it's nothing but suffering?

02:19:23.100 And that's going to be plenty of your life.

02:19:26.100 And so the whole orientation of that question in that sense is wrong.

02:19:32.100 What you want to have in your marriage is, I would say, first of all, first and foremost,

02:19:38.100 like a scrupulous honesty.

02:19:40.100 And I don't just mean that you tell each other the truth because you can be brutal with the truth.

02:19:45.100 I mean the kind of honesty that's devoted towards thriving in love, you know?

02:19:51.100 And you want to act nobly in your relationship.

02:19:54.100 You want to be reliable and productive and generous.

02:19:56.100 And then if you're lucky, now and then, you might be happy.

02:20:08.100 And you might have a clear enough conscience so that in those rare moments where you are truly happy,

02:20:13.100 you can also enjoy it without guilt.

02:20:16.100 And so you aim at something a lot higher than happiness,

02:20:19.100 and then you welcome it if it deigns to land on you for brief moments of time.

02:20:26.100 I never figured you for a Catholic.

02:20:39.100 Well, I've got all the guilt.

02:20:42.100 It's not a stretch, man.

02:20:45.100 That is, you know, that Catholic aspect is very important.

02:20:49.100 In the Italian culture, there is a concept known as divorce Italian style. 0.97

02:20:54.100 And divorce Italian style is when you murder your husband or wife 0.99

02:20:58.100 because there's no other way to get out of the marriage.

02:21:01.100 You are in it.

02:21:02.100 And I actually think this is a very important thing.

02:21:05.100 I mean, I'm half joking.

02:21:07.100 I'm half joking.

02:21:10.100 If I ever end up separated in my marriage, it will be at knife point by my wife.

02:21:15.100 It will not be.

02:21:16.100 Because I think if you both go into a marriage agreeing on what it is,

02:21:21.100 on what the institution is, and you say, look, we're in it.

02:21:24.100 We're not going to leave it.

02:21:25.100 No matter how terrible and miserable it might seem at times,

02:21:29.100 we're just going to be in it, for better or for worse.

02:21:32.100 That gives you a level of comfort and security and true freedom

02:21:36.100 that will allow you to weather those storms.

02:21:40.100 And you also don't need to pursue selflessness exactly.

02:21:44.100 In a way, you're sort of pursuing the opposite.

02:21:47.100 You're pursuing a sort of selfishness in that you are viewing your spouse as part of your flesh.

02:21:52.100 A man and a woman leave their families.

02:21:54.100 They come together in one flesh.

02:21:56.100 I think of my wife, sweet little Elisa, truly as a part of my flesh.

02:22:01.100 And so even when I do all sorts of very annoying behaviors and Elisa yells at me and she says,

02:22:06.100 Mike, do the dishes.

02:22:07.100 Go in there.

02:22:08.100 Clean up your clothing.

02:22:09.100 Why are you doing your work too late?

02:22:10.100 Why are you at backstage on that mic?

02:22:12.100 I think to myself that this is good.

02:22:14.100 I need to accept this with saintly patience.

02:22:17.100 This is very virtuous to do.

02:22:19.100 And that last point that Jordan made, this is very important.

02:22:22.100 That Catholic guilt is so good because in the good times you will be absolutely blissful in your marriage. 1.00

02:22:29.100 But in the bad times, in the bad times, and this is true in all aspects of life,

02:22:33.100 you know that suffering can be a sanctifying experience.

02:22:37.100 And if you react to it in a way that is with patience and that is edifying

02:22:41.100 and that is not merely complaining and debasing, that can be a wonderful thing.

02:22:46.100 And even through difficult moments that will bring you even closer together 0.98

02:22:50.100 until your wife kills you in the end. 0.84

02:22:52.100 And anyway, you had a good run. 0.99

02:22:59.100 So, like Michael, if my marriage ends, it will be because my wife murders me,

02:23:04.100 both because she is a doctor and can get away with it,

02:23:07.100 and also because the life insurance money is just extraordinary.

02:23:12.100 But, you know, to take, I think, something that hasn't been taken,

02:23:19.100 it's hard to be the last person except for Jeremy, and who cares what Jeremy has to say.

02:23:24.100 So, one thing that I think people tend to fall prey to is that men tend to think

02:23:29.100 that the things that their wife wants are the things that they would want, 0.86

02:23:31.100 and women tend to think that the things their husband wants are the things that they would want. 1.00

02:23:34.100 And failing to recognize that men and women are wildly different

02:23:38.100 and have very different priorities leads to some pretty bad things.

02:23:41.100 I have so many stories that are like, I mean, the purest example of this that I can think of

02:23:45.100 is one time I was, my wife came to me and she had some sort of problem, 0.58

02:23:49.100 and I did what men do.

02:23:51.100 I said, okay, so here's a bunch of solutions.

02:23:53.100 Oh.

02:23:54.100 Men, right. 0.97

02:23:55.100 Oh.

02:23:56.100 Yeah, I see that, Candace.

02:23:57.100 That's great.

02:23:58.100 Is it really a bad idea?

02:23:59.100 It's a bad idea.

02:24:00.100 Because men are solution-oriented, right? 0.58

02:24:01.100 If they hear a problem, men like to fix things.

02:24:03.100 They like machines, they like to fix things.

02:24:04.100 And so my wife presented me with a problem, and I said the natural, normal, logical thing that men do.

02:24:09.100 And I said, here's a solution, and she got mad. 0.99

02:24:11.100 And I realized at that point that what she didn't want was a solution.

02:24:15.100 What she wanted was for me to hear her.

02:24:17.100 Yes.

02:24:18.100 Ah, to hear her.

02:24:19.100 Yes, the comfort.

02:24:20.100 Ah, the emotion.

02:24:21.100 Even I.

02:24:22.100 Even I.

02:24:23.100 And so at that point we set up a rule in my home, and the rule goes like this.

02:24:31.100 When my wife comes to me with a problem, I say to her, is this a solutions problem, or 0.58

02:24:34.100 is this a conversation where you want me to hear you?

02:24:37.100 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:24:38.100 And my wife has been kind enough, knowing my shortcomings, to actually abide by this rule,

02:24:42.100 and answer the question straight, that she doesn't actually want the problem solved.

02:24:45.100 One other example of this sort of disconnect.

02:24:48.100 Because I think, the truth is that I think that what women actually want to speak for women 0.99

02:24:52.100 as I'm so, I'm an expert.

02:24:54.100 I mean, I could be one.

02:24:55.100 I mean, it just, it could be anything.

02:24:58.100 Yeah.

02:24:59.100 What women predominantly want is to be heard and protected by the man that they are with. 0.97

02:25:04.100 They want to be heard, and they want to be understood, and they want to be protected

02:25:07.100 by the man that they are with.

02:25:09.100 And because that is the best characteristic of both the husband and father.

02:25:12.100 And what men want is respect, food, and sex.

02:25:16.100 Those are the things that men want.

02:25:19.100 It isn't that difficult.

02:25:20.100 We're real simple.

02:25:22.100 So, all you ladies are like, man, man's a mystery. 1.00

02:25:24.100 He's not a mystery.

02:25:25.100 I promise you.

02:25:26.100 You provide him all three of these things, and he will be a happy camper.

02:25:30.100 And my wife came to me at one point, and she said to me, she's on the phone with a person

02:25:34.100 who shall remain nameless, a female friend of hers who shall remain nameless. 1.00

02:25:37.100 And this woman, her husband, she'd been working a lot, and her husband had been working a lot.

02:25:42.100 And she was in the middle of a very difficult work project with a bunch of kids at home.

02:25:45.100 And her husband would come home, and he'd be taking care of the kids.

02:25:47.100 And he was getting grumpier and grumpier about this, as men are apt to do.

02:25:51.100 And she was talking with my wife on the phone, and she said to my wife, what should I do?

02:25:55.100 And my wife said, you know, she'd buy him some flowers, get him a card, tell him how much

02:25:58.100 what he's doing means to you.

02:25:59.100 And I motioned desperately, you need to, like, it was on speakerphone, which it shouldn't have been.

02:26:04.100 And I motioned desperately to mute the phone.

02:26:06.100 And she muted the phone, and I said, no, you need to bleep him.

02:26:12.100 And I said to my wife, you're thinking like a woman would think, right? 1.00

02:26:19.100 Because if you want me to, if you want to feel appreciated, you don't want that.

02:26:22.100 What you want me to do is buy you some flowers and write you a card and talk about how wonderful

02:26:25.100 you are and how grateful I am.

02:26:28.100 And she, my wife, being a woman of good sense and practicality, nodded firmly, took off the 0.59

02:26:34.100 mute and said, go home and sleep with your husband. 1.00

02:26:37.100 And it was good for the marriage, as it turns out.

02:26:41.100 Can I make a comment on all of this?

02:26:51.100 I would just like to make a comment observing all of this.

02:26:56.100 No, no, no, it's not what you expect.

02:27:00.100 This whole dialogue would be inconceivable at any left-wing place.

02:27:07.100 And the reason is, we're real.

02:27:12.100 They hate reality.

02:27:14.100 None of this discussion, especially the last comment.

02:27:19.100 No, no, I could prove it.

02:27:22.100 This will take just literally under a minute.

02:27:25.100 About 10 years ago, I wrote a column every week.

02:27:29.100 So it's 20 years of columns.

02:27:31.100 One year, I wrote a two-part column on the subject of, if you're about, oh yes, if a wife is not in the mood.

02:27:47.100 That's what, it was a two-part column.

02:27:50.100 And my, the whole thesis, which I put in such gentle phraseology.

02:27:55.100 Go home and bleep him?

02:27:57.100 Yes, if your husband is a good man, if you respect him, if he treats you beautifully, then don't only allow your mood to determine whether you sleep with him.

02:28:10.100 That was the thesis of it.

02:28:12.100 Of course there are times when obviously that will determine, but not always.

02:28:16.100 Just as mood cannot determine almost anything good that we do, I don't determine whether I go to work based on my mood.

02:28:24.100 The Daily Coes wrote, headline, you can see it, it's still up there, Dennis Prager advocates marital rape.

02:28:34.100 They hate reality.

02:28:43.100 So one of the practices that my wife and I have that really helped us a tremendous amount more recently, when we were both recovering from very serious illnesses, is we had instituted a policy of regular dates.

02:29:00.100 And probably 25 years ago, maybe longer.

02:29:04.100 And that was at her impetus.

02:29:06.100 I was resistant to the idea to begin with, but not for long.

02:29:10.100 Ha.

02:29:11.100 And, yeah, and so like, so to follow up on your comment, it's like, put in some bloody effort and get in the mood.

02:29:24.100 Both of you, right?

02:29:28.100 Both of you.

02:29:29.100 Yeah, yeah.

02:29:30.100 Because it's not, when you're exhausted with kids, when you're, when you've worked all day, you know, and you're kind of up to here and you're tired, it's easy to drop your, the intimate part of your marriage to number 11 on a list of 10 priorities.

02:29:46.100 And then, that's just not a good long-term strategy.

02:29:50.100 And so, when you're an adult with adult responsibilities, you have to carve out the time and you have to make a willful effort.

02:29:57.100 And, as Dennis just pointed out, that's way too important to have it depend on something like unpredictable and arbitrary whim.

02:30:05.100 And on both, on the part of both partners.

02:30:08.100 Yeah.

02:30:09.100 So.

02:30:10.100 Could I, uh, the rules have totally broken down, so can I talk again?

02:30:18.100 After listening, I just want to give one other, because after listening to all this, I feel like, um, my answer should be more sexist, like the rest of you.

02:30:26.100 So, there's, there's one other thing I think, I think is really important is, and this is advice to men in particular in marriage, and that is to stop bitching, okay? 0.99

02:30:38.100 Yeah.

02:30:39.100 Now, the same advice could go to women, but there's no point. 1.00

02:30:42.100 Like, no, why isn't that?

02:30:44.100 Um, but I, I think, I think, you guys opened the floodgates, so I'm just, I'm just jumping in.

02:30:54.100 I think, uh, we've lost, we've lost the sense of stoicism in men completely in marriages, and so now, because we encourage men to, you know, be very open about your emotions, and, and what that ends up happening is that you just, like, dump all of this stuff onto your wife all the time, everything that you're worrying about, everything you're thinking about, and the idea that a man would just shoulder something in silence is, is, uh, it's considered, you know, offensive.

02:31:19.100 No, you'd have to be open about your feelings.

02:31:21.100 One of my, um, favorite stories in the Gulag Archipelago, uh, soldier Houston.

02:31:27.100 Oh, God.

02:31:28.100 A sentence that has never before been uttered.

02:31:32.100 Yeah.

02:31:33.100 My favorite stories.

02:31:34.100 Little anecdote.

02:31:35.100 By the way, this is a story that I told my brother the day before his wedding.

02:31:40.100 He's his best man.

02:31:41.100 Um, so that's true.

02:31:45.100 There's a, a man who's, uh, at a Soviet labor camp, and he's sentenced to die, and he's, why are you guys laughing?

02:31:53.100 I'm trying to tell a serious story.

02:31:55.100 Uh, he's, he's, uh, he's sentenced to be, he's sentenced to be shot, shot to death, and, and, uh, but he wants to see his wife.

02:32:04.100 There's no, I can't tell the story.

02:32:06.100 I can't tell it.

02:32:07.100 It's impossible.

02:32:08.100 The point I'm trying to make is, uh, he's, he's sentenced to, to dying, and, and, and, but he wants to see his wife one last time.

02:32:17.100 And so, uh, the prison guards tell him that, yeah, we can send your wife to come see you, but the deal is you can't tell her what's about to happen to you.

02:32:27.100 Because if you tell her that, then, you know, then maybe she ends up getting shot, too.

02:32:31.100 Um, so he spends three days with his wife, just walking around this prison camp, and, uh, never tells her what's about to happen to him.

02:32:40.100 He just spends time with her and shoulders this burden entirely on his own.

02:32:46.100 And then as soon as she is sailing away on the ship, uh, he's, you know, undressing to go before the firing line.

02:32:52.100 You compare that to today when a man comes home, like, in tears.

02:32:56.100 What's wrong? I stubbed my toe! And, you know, and it's, it's just, uh, there's quite a contrast there, I think.

02:33:01.100 I, I, I agree that you need honesty in your marriage, absolutely.

02:33:08.100 You need honesty in all of your relationships, including your relationship with yourself, which is where most of the real lies happen in the world.

02:33:16.100 But I think that, kind of to your point, Matt, I think that there's a difference between honesty as an, as a general statement and honesty in the specifics.

02:33:26.100 So, for example, I believe that the fantasy of marriage is part of what destroys so many marriages in the modern age.

02:33:33.100 I don't want to live in a fantasy relationship with my wife, I want to live in a very real relationship with my wife.

02:33:38.100 And so I don't want my wife, for example, to think a bunch of fanciful things about the foundations of our marriage.

02:33:44.100 I don't want her to think, I think you're the most beautiful woman in the world.

02:33:48.100 I mean, Mila Kunis exists, and my wife knows that Mila Kunis exists.

02:33:52.100 I don't believe my wife selected me on the basis that I'm the most beautiful man in the world.

02:33:59.100 Clearly.

02:34:00.100 Clearly.

02:34:01.100 In some ways, believing in those sort of fanciful notions actually diminishes the value of the choice that we make in selecting our spouse.

02:34:10.100 And so I want my wife to know very, very truthfully what a man is, distinct from what a woman is, what the burdens of a man are, very distinct from what the burdens of a woman are. 0.90

02:34:23.100 I don't want her to live in an illusion, and I don't want to live in an illusion, but I don't tell her every time that I think a waitress is hot. 0.66

02:34:31.100 That's a very specific piece of information that is my burden to carry.

02:34:35.100 I don't want her to think that I don't think waitresses are hot, right?

02:34:43.100 I don't want her to think that men are the same as women or that I'm better than I am, but I also don't want to burden her with all the particulars.

02:34:51.100 And I think that's kind of part of what you're saying is that we do have to carry part of this.

02:34:56.100 I have a lot to say on the topic of marriage.

02:34:58.100 You know, I've had the honor of officiating two dozen or more weddings, some for people who are here, people who are very dear to me, lifelong friends.

02:35:06.100 I got to pastor a church for many, many years in Los Angeles.

02:35:11.100 Even our friend, Laurel, who's here today, I had the honor of marrying her to her husband.

02:35:19.100 And so I've had the opportunity to think a lot about if you're going to take on the responsibility of officiating a wedding,

02:35:25.100 you have an obligation to try to impart some pieces of wisdom to people before you do it.

02:35:30.100 And a lot of it's very practical. Don't go tit for tat. Don't keep score.

02:35:34.100 You know, you have to give each other the right to criticize one another.

02:35:38.100 You can't navigate 40, 50, 60 years of life with someone who has no opportunity to criticize you.

02:35:43.100 Men and women are different. You're going to have different needs. 0.88

02:35:46.100 Don't try to place your reactions to something on them as though they mean what it would mean if you did the very same thing.

02:35:55.100 I mean, these are very practical and I think very important, but there's a very spiritual component to it as well.

02:36:00.100 And obviously the Bible has a great deal to say about it, but you can live in Ephesians for a long time talking about marriage.

02:36:05.100 But there's a different idea that I'd like to leave the conversation with, which is that at the end of the day,

02:36:11.100 and this is less directly stated in the Bible, but indirectly many, many times stated in the Bible,

02:36:16.100 you have no real power over any other human being.

02:36:21.100 If you do, you don't, it's not a God-given power. You have no right to the power that you have over them.

02:36:27.100 You certainly can't change anyone for the better through coercion.

02:36:31.100 You can't make someone what you want them to be.

02:36:34.100 And yet there is a paradox which says in any meaningful relationship, if you work on fulfilling your role to the best of your ability and beyond,

02:36:45.100 if you work on bettering yourself, if you work on putting into a relationship all that you can,

02:36:50.100 it's not a recipe that says if you do this, it will change them.

02:36:55.100 In fact, if you pursue it on that basis, it almost certainly will not work.

02:36:59.100 The paradox is if you pursue it simply because it is the right thing to do, it has some mystical effect on the other.

02:37:05.100 It's almost as though there's a God and he knows the heart of man,

02:37:08.100 and he knows the difference between things that are motivated out of the good and things that are motivated out of only the selfish.

02:37:14.100 And when you pursue being the best husband that you can be, it creates in your wife at least the opportunity for her to be the best wife that she can be.

02:37:22.100 When you are the best wife that you can be, it creates in your husband the opportunity to be the best husband that he can be.

02:37:29.100 And yeah, some sex would be nice. 0.89

02:37:38.100 Here's a terrific question. 0.95

02:37:42.100 And I actually am going to go around the room because I think I know how it'll play out.

02:37:46.100 Who is universally accepted to be the best looking of all of you?

02:37:50.100 I'll go first, Candace.

02:37:54.100 And I dare any of you to say anything.

02:38:01.100 Okay.

02:38:02.100 We have time for just a handful more questions.

02:38:04.100 We'll go around the room.

02:38:05.100 I think this is working very well for us.

02:38:07.100 I think we can just try cross talking and see what happens at this point.

02:38:10.100 Obviously, a lot of people want to know politically what's happening in the country.

02:38:13.100 What do we expect to happen during the midterms and beyond?

02:38:17.100 I don't want to dwell on politics very long because they're boring and anything we say isn't what will happen because of chaos.

02:38:22.100 And the thing that you don't know about the world if you haven't read the Bible is that people are terrible and you can't predict anything.

02:38:27.100 But generally speaking, what do we all think is on the horizon?

02:38:31.100 Definitely the collapse of Black Lives Matter narrative. 0.62

02:38:34.100 I think for sure.

02:38:35.100 I've seen the black community.

02:38:36.100 From your lips.

02:38:37.100 Yeah.

02:38:38.100 The race narrative.

02:38:40.100 There's a lot of narratives that seem to be collapsing and falling apart.

02:38:43.100 And I think time has been on the conservative side for sure.

02:38:47.100 And bizarrely, I think that the COVID lockdowns helped in a bizarre way in terms of all of the arguments that we were making.

02:38:55.100 I think people thought we were being hyperbolic about the government, about the extreme governance, about they're coming after your children.

02:39:02.100 And then it got real really quickly.

02:39:04.100 Right.

02:39:05.100 So I've been extremely optimistic about the direction that the country is going into because of that, because I've been gaining followers where I don't expect them.

02:39:13.100 I think people are realizing how little things like when you're complaining about inflation at the supermarket, they're realizing, wait a second, I don't even know how to grow my food.

02:39:23.100 Everyone knows I'm very into gardening right now.

02:39:25.100 I don't know how to grow my food.

02:39:27.100 I don't know how to, you know, do things for my family and for myself.

02:39:31.100 We've all, in a sense, been welfare recipients in my mind.

02:39:34.100 And because of the tragedy of the Biden administration, I think people are waking up and the tragedy of COVID policy all around the world globally, there seems to be an awakening.

02:39:46.100 And I always like to leave people with that optimism because things can seem really dreary and can seem really gloomy.

02:39:52.100 But even in terms of a Biden presidency, I say that God had his hand on that.

02:39:56.100 We needed that to happen in order for there to be this proliferation of people waking up and saying, OK, wait, enough is enough.

02:40:03.100 Things need to change.

02:40:04.100 I made the mistake of looking at my watch.

02:40:08.100 I made the mistake of looking at my watch.

02:40:10.100 I'm not going to ask you guys any more questions, but I am going to use my prerogative to ask one that didn't come from the audience.

02:40:15.100 And I'm going to ask it, Dr. Peterson, of you.

02:40:17.100 We've lived through over the last few years in this country and in your home country as well, a very open hostility from our governments against us with the COVID lockdowns, with so many of the policies that were sort of justified.

02:40:33.100 I don't like it when people say, oh, I work from home because of COVID.

02:40:36.100 Well, it's not because of COVID that you work from home.

02:40:38.100 It's because of bureaucrats and politicians who determined that their reaction to COVID would be these various things.

02:40:45.100 And so I think a lot of Americans are seeing the world in a different way than they ever have.

02:40:50.100 But you, uniquely of anyone on this stage, have had your government come against you personally, not in the broad sense that we've all been enduring it.

02:40:59.100 But you've really been targeted, it seems to me, by the Canadian government in a way that's very specific and very particular.

02:41:07.100 And yet you continue to live a lot of your life in Toronto.

02:41:10.100 I'm sure that you're, you know, you have, you have deep relationships in Toronto.

02:41:16.100 How do you, how does one make the decision to stay and fight versus, I mean, you can go anywhere in the world that you want to go.

02:41:23.100 You're well traveled, you're, you're affluent, you've been successful.

02:41:28.100 How do you make the decision to stay and stand against those forces when they've, when they've turned their guns directly on you?

02:41:34.100 Well, I think in some ways I haven't made the decision to stay.

02:41:41.100 So for example, I'm here right now.

02:41:45.100 Well, and I was just, I was just in Europe for a month, mostly in Eastern Europe.

02:41:51.100 That went great.

02:41:52.100 I think Dennis is right when he says that the Eastern Europeans might save the Western Europeans. 0.97

02:42:00.100 They've had, they had their fair share of surfeit of the ideas that are tearing us apart under the communists.

02:42:11.100 And so they haven't exactly forgotten that yet.

02:42:14.100 And so I'm in Canada a reasonable amount, but I'm traveling all over the world.

02:42:22.100 And that's part of the battle against what's happening in Canada.

02:42:26.100 Because weirdly enough, what's happening in Canada is happening all over the Western world.

02:42:30.100 I mean, you know that things have got extremely strange when Canadian politics is now interesting.

02:42:38.100 That's a very disturbing trend because our country had a reputation for being utterly predictable and dull,

02:42:48.100 which is the most wonderful political reputation you can possibly have.

02:42:53.100 Right?

02:42:54.100 It's like, your politicians are just faceless bureaucrats.

02:43:00.100 Yes.

02:43:01.100 Yes.

02:43:02.100 Thank God.

02:43:03.100 That's exactly what we want, right?

02:43:05.100 That kind of dull normality that conservatives particularly appreciate.

02:43:10.100 Say, I'm doing what I can to, let's say, oppose the ideas, and not the people exactly,

02:43:23.100 but the ideas that are shredding us.

02:43:25.100 And I can do that partly by staying in Canada, where I still have family and friends,

02:43:31.100 but also by being here and by the touring that I'm doing and by working as much as I can internationally.

02:43:37.100 And so that seems to be an optimal balance.

02:43:40.100 And I don't really have to decide in that sense, right?

02:43:42.100 I mean, I'm moving a lot of money out of Canada because they freeze bank accounts in Canada.

02:43:48.100 And I noticed, and I have bank accounts.

02:43:51.100 And so, and I also saw when I was touring through Europe, especially in the last month,

02:44:00.100 the Canadian government has no idea what freezing bank accounts did to Canada's reputation.

02:44:08.100 It was a devastating move.

02:44:10.100 And the consequences of that are going to unfold over, oh, God only knows how long, 20 years maybe.

02:44:17.100 It was a catastrophic move strategically.

02:44:21.100 So I'm moving as much money as I can out of Canada as fast as I possibly can.

02:44:26.100 So, but my residency is still there.

02:44:29.100 And I'm working avidly with conservatives in Canada to rid our country of the plague that its governance currently represents.

02:44:43.100 So, and, and I should also, I should also point out there is not a chance in the world that Trudeau is going to last more than three more years.

02:44:56.100 Dr. Peterson, thank you for being with us tonight.

02:45:06.100 Dennis, thank you so much for making the trip.

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