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00:00:00.000 Hi, everyone. It's Matt Walsh. You're about to listen to a very special Daily Wire backstage

00:00:04.040 featuring Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan, and yours truly, along

00:00:08.680 with our guest, Candace Owens. We discuss the Jeremy's Razors giveaway, HBO's House of Dragons,

00:00:14.080 and the horrifying truths about the child mutilations happening at Vanderbilt right

00:00:18.320 here in Tennessee. Trust me, you don't want to miss this one. Thanks for listening.

00:00:30.000 Welcome to the Daily Wire backstage, sponsored tonight by Jeremy's Razors. Stop giving your

00:00:51.020 money to woke corporations that hate you. Give your money to me instead. We've got a big Jeremy's

00:00:56.660 Razors announcement actually coming up a little bit later in the show. But first, we're going to

00:01:00.100 talk about some politics. Joining me to do just that, the gateway to the extreme right, himself,

00:01:05.880 Ben Shapiro, five days a week, Candace Owens, now with even more Candace Owens, Candace Owens,

00:01:11.520 the extreme right, Matt Walsh, Andrew Klavan's biggest fan, Michael Knowles, and the ghost of

00:01:17.600 Andrew Klavan, Andrew Klavan. And I, of course, am your lowercase god king, Jeremy Boring. Not only

00:01:26.260 do we have this great announcement coming up about Jeremy's Razors after the show, but we also have

00:01:31.300 all kinds of fun things to tell you about that are going on at the Daily Wire. And one of the

00:01:34.840 biggest things that's going on at the Daily Wire right now is that Matt Walsh is literally destroying

00:01:40.720 Vanderbilt Hospital right here in our very own Nashville, Tennessee.

00:01:43.920 Not literally.

00:01:45.400 He is very much figuratively destroying.

00:01:47.760 Figuratively destroying.

00:01:48.540 I want to make sure, I want to make absolutely sure that the police and all the enforcers on

00:01:53.720 Twitter know that Matt is not literally destroying this hospital. Matt, tell us what's going on.

00:01:59.780 Well, you know, we have Vanderbilt Hospital, which is right next door to us.

00:02:03.100 And so we became curious about their gender, their transgender program. They have a transgender

00:02:08.120 clinic. And so we started digging into it. We spent a good week looking into it. And the

00:02:12.280 interesting thing is that, is that, you know, all of these gender clinics across the country

00:02:16.320 have been just posting videos with abandon, admitting to all kinds of horrific things.

00:02:23.820 But then over the last...

00:02:24.540 Yeah, there's nothing.

00:02:25.160 Right, exactly. And over the last couple of months, as the terrorists like myself have

00:02:29.560 been calling attention to it, now they're going through and deleting things. So it's a little

00:02:33.540 more difficult than you might think to find some of this stuff. But we went through and

00:02:36.380 you kind of see the story and you see it all through the videos they've posted.

00:02:40.720 The clinic opened up in 2018. And there's actually a video that we posted on Twitter

00:02:48.200 of a woman explaining, a doctor there explaining how she convinced Vanderbilt to start a transgender

00:02:54.360 clinic. And she said that...

00:02:56.060 It's mercy, compassion for children who are living with gender dysphoria.

00:02:59.420 Right. Well, it's that. She said it's the right thing to do. But also, there's a lot of money.

00:03:04.440 It's a big moneymaker. And she goes through all the money they have to make with these gender

00:03:08.960 surgeries. And the interesting thing about that is that she acknowledges that the reason

00:03:13.200 why these surgeries are so profitable is because of all the follow-ups. So basically, when you

00:03:19.360 do the surgery to someone, it means that they're now condemned to a life of returning to the

00:03:22.380 hospital over and over again. She said that... She boasted that bottom surgeries for women,

00:03:26.540 for example, making a fake penis is worth $100,000 a pop to the hospital.

00:03:30.940 How large is the fake penis? Because I'm a wealthy, wealthy man.

00:03:33.800 Well, it's... I don't know. I haven't got that... I didn't get that deep into the research, but...

00:03:40.540 Get back to me.

00:03:41.740 So they start the transgender clinic. And then now they're concerned that there might be staff

00:03:47.140 members at the hospital that aren't on board with doing these kinds of things. We have another

00:03:50.180 video of a woman at a lecture talking to staff members at the hospital, telling them that if you

00:03:55.420 conscientiously object to performing these surgeries, that is problematic, there will be

00:03:59.640 consequences, and you shouldn't work at Vanderbilt. Now, I'm not a lawyer. I'm pretty sure

00:04:03.620 telling someone explicitly that if you use your religious freedom, there's going to be consequences

00:04:07.040 for it. It doesn't seem legal to me. And then they also, they still were not sure that staff

00:04:13.580 members were fully on board. So they started a first-in-its-nation program called the Trans

00:04:17.380 Buddy Program, where they have these volunteer activists, trans activists in the community

00:04:21.940 that will come in and attend appointments with trans patients to, they say, watch the doctors,

00:04:27.960 to make sure, monitor the doctors, to make sure that they're not unsafe, which means that

00:04:32.840 they're not misgendering. And they say that this is available to children, too.

00:04:36.660 And then we get to the children piece of this. And if you dig deep enough, you can find that they

00:04:42.220 give chemical castration drugs to children. They sterilize children. They give irreversible

00:04:47.280 hormones to children as young as 13. They admit all this on video. They do double mastectomies for

00:04:52.120 girls as young as 16. Some of this they've deleted from the sites where they put it, but it's all there.

00:04:59.900 Uh, so kind of to review, they started doing this in 2018 because of the money. They admit it. Uh,

00:05:06.820 they threatened doctors to make them go along with it. And now they're chemically castrating

00:05:11.500 and sterilizing children. And it's all there. Candace, you had Perez Hilton on your show just

00:05:16.060 this week to talk about his position is that this is all fully reversible, right? Yeah. I mean,

00:05:20.600 his position to me really reflects the left position. It's very emblematic of it. He just views

00:05:25.420 as an opinion. And he kept saying this word over and over again. And well, it's just my opinion.

00:05:29.640 You know, it's just my opinion. It's like, you are entitled to your own opinions, but we are

00:05:34.020 actually, we need to talk, have a fact-based discussion when we're talking about the mutilation

00:05:37.400 of children, because that's what it is. And I think the thing that was sad in having that discussion

00:05:41.760 is I was very open. You know, I did not want to press him at all. I wanted him to actually hear

00:05:46.280 from Scott Nugent who had already been through all of this, but he was unwilling to edit his

00:05:51.480 quote unquote opinion after being presented with the facts because it is a religion, right? The left

00:05:57.240 is, it's a cult. It's a religion. So it's just, we'll sacrifice children on the altar of wokeism.

00:06:02.840 I will say good on him for coming on the show. Not very many people with whom we disagree will

00:06:07.280 actually come on our shows and defend their positions. It's an amazing piece of content.

00:06:11.200 It's available at Daily Wire Plus for our subscribers as part of this broad initiative that

00:06:16.200 we have really between now and the year to really enhance the value of our offering behind

00:06:20.220 our paywall. So you can see that interview with Perez Hilton and Candice and Scott Nugent.

00:06:26.200 You can also see our new member block, which we're adding to every show, including the new

00:06:30.180 five-day-a-week Candice Owens, where you get to hear, we get to hear from you and take questions

00:06:35.300 and give you a little bit more content that's only available to members. And that includes

00:06:39.120 this show. So immediately following this show, we'll have 20 minutes devoted just to interacting

00:06:43.600 with our Daily Wire Plus members. As a sign of our appreciation, they're truly who keep us

00:06:48.560 in business. And so, again, we're trying to really enhance that. And I think one of our great

00:06:53.120 pieces of content so far is this terrific interview that Candice did with Perez Hilton.

00:06:58.260 Matt, you're obviously on kind of a one-man crusade here, trying to expose exactly what's happening

00:07:05.840 in these hospitals and happening to kids around the country. What is the reaction? What are you

00:07:11.440 actually hearing out there in response to the work that you're doing?

00:07:16.520 I've, to this thing about Vanderbilt, the reaction has been, I mean, it's been pretty extraordinary

00:07:20.780 just in the last couple of hours. I wasn't totally sure how people would react because we've heard a

00:07:24.920 lot about these hospitals recently. I don't know if it's people have, it just all kind of becomes

00:07:29.260 background noise. But I think that the one thing that is very clear to me from making the film,

00:07:35.400 what is a woman, to everything else we've been doing, that people really just don't know. They

00:07:40.340 don't realize that this stuff is happening. I think the average American, if you go up to them

00:07:44.400 on the street, even now, and you bring up, you know, that children are being castrated, they would

00:07:49.420 say, well, that's not happening. And it's like, of course, that's illegal. But it is happening. It's

00:07:53.760 happening in every state. And it's not actually illegal in any state. It is not currently illegal to

00:07:59.500 chemically castrate children in any state. And the reason why it's not illegal, even though they're in

00:08:04.580 many of these states like this one, you could easily pass a law and almost everyone would

00:08:07.860 support it. But the reason why it's not illegal is just because people don't realize that it's

00:08:10.880 happening, which again goes back to, that's why it's so extraordinary. Well, it never needed to be

00:08:14.060 illegal. Right, never needed to be legal until the last like eight or nine years. And for the last

00:08:19.260 eight or nine years, the gender ideologues, the gender ideology brigade, they've been out in the

00:08:24.220 open talking about how they're doing this. They've been very open about it. In many ways, this is like

00:08:29.820 abortion in that people just actually don't know. I was just at the live action gala, great pro-life

00:08:36.220 organization over the weekend. And they had an amazing statistic that they've figured out through

00:08:40.740 their own internal research, which is that when people who are pro-choice are presented with their

00:08:46.300 information, 19% of those people change their views in the pro-life direction just by seeing the

00:08:54.560 pictures and the stories and the facts. The reality. You're saying it's almost one in five. And it's

00:08:59.380 because people just don't really know what an abortion looks like, what it really means. And I

00:09:03.740 think when it comes to transgenderism, people don't realize that gender affirming surgery means you

00:09:09.120 hack off little girls' forearms and you hack off parts of their calves and you construct a fake,

00:09:15.700 meaty, disgusting, pseudo genital. And it's so ghastly. It's out of the most dystopian novel.

00:09:21.740 If you just show people what that is, it's not going to be one in five who change their opinion.

00:09:27.000 It's going to be four in five. It might be even more.

00:09:28.780 And I can't agree that this is a religion in the sense, unless you mean like some Mayan,

00:09:32.920 you know, apocalyptic, you know, child sacrifice. But religion, you know, is kind of a reasonable

00:09:38.140 thing garnered from faith and from reasoning about the world. This is mental illness, an upsurge of

00:09:43.580 mental illness in this country that I've never seen before. But you read about it in history,

00:09:47.660 the kind of thing people go mad. And I think this is a mass upsurge of mental illness,

00:09:54.120 followed by the atrocities that mentally ill people would commit if you agreed with their

00:09:58.700 delusions. Well, what's really amazing about it is to watch as the scientific community

00:10:01.700 mirrors the woke preferences of political class. And that's been the theme, obviously,

00:10:06.060 over the last several years is how science, which was supposed to be the one thing that the

00:10:10.540 Enlightenment gave us that was actually useful because it actually, you know, increased living

00:10:13.920 standards and increased our technological ability to do things and increased life expectancy.

00:10:19.080 And how quickly science made itself subject to the woke diktat is really astonishing on everything

00:10:25.320 from COVID to obviously this. This is the most obvious example. You know, when Matt, you talk about

00:10:31.560 what they're actually doing to children, it is impossible realistically to separate that from

00:10:36.420 stories like the one that we saw over in Canada, which I'm sure we all covered. This insane story of

00:10:41.720 this high school teacher in Canada was a man who walked into a high school wearing what effectively

00:10:47.260 looked like beach balls in his shirt. Size Z is what I called it on my show. With prosthetic breasts

00:10:52.720 that are like beach balls with like fake nipples on the end. And the students rightly. You're talking

00:10:58.000 like a George Clooney level Batman fake nipple. It's not quite that intense. And the students took

00:11:06.220 pictures of this and everything. And the school district came to the defense of this man and said,

00:11:10.020 well, he's he's a woman. I mean, he's he's a transgender woman. And this person has the right

00:11:13.200 to gender identity. And the thing is that when when you recognize that this is all part of the

00:11:18.060 same playbook, that that the same people who are saying that this man who is wearing the who's

00:11:22.800 acting out a sexual fetish in front of children. I mean, that's what that is. That isn't even somebody

00:11:25.900 who's who's saying I'm a man who believes I'm a woman that saying I wish to act out a bizarre

00:11:29.500 sexual fetish that nobody's ever heard of in front of minors. And when this is now seen as an

00:11:34.180 aspect of gender identity and you're supposed to mirror that in Canada, because if you don't,

00:11:38.480 then you might be in violation of anti-discrimination laws in places like Canada. You could have your

00:11:41.680 livelihood taken away from you. You could be sued. I mean, there are real consequences to this sort

00:11:45.860 of stuff in an anti-free speech nation now like Canada. That is part and parcel of the scientific

00:11:50.200 community in the United States and Canada and other places that buy into the idea that boys can

00:11:54.180 become girls, girls can become boys. And the way that all of this works is that you just hack some

00:11:57.240 body parts off of people and you sterilize the children. But what about in America now? So

00:12:01.080 obviously America's hat up in Canada always does crazy stuff avant-garde. But what about in America

00:12:06.080 after Bostock, after a conservative Supreme Court justice sided with the libs and enshrined SOGI,

00:12:12.880 sexual orientation and gender identity, into civil rights law? What if this happened at a school in

00:12:17.820 America? Would you see the same kind of arguments? I mean, you definitely could. You definitely could.

00:12:21.820 I mean, in fact, there was a case that just came up in Montana in which a judge ordered the state

00:12:26.340 legislature had passed a bill. The state legislature said you're not allowed to change your birth

00:12:30.200 certificate to your new assumed gender. If you're born male, your birth certificate stays male because you

00:12:35.080 were born a male. The judge overruled that law, struck it down and said that he would hold in

00:12:40.260 contempt to anybody who continued to maintain that you could not change the sex on your birth

00:12:44.200 certificate, which is the ultimate retconning of science. Because that's right. No matter what you

00:12:47.400 are or say you are now, when you were born, we knew exactly what you were. I mean, you could just look

00:12:51.340 at you and we knew what you were. And so 100 percent, this is a serious issue. And what the what the

00:12:56.500 Supreme Court seems to be doing, and it's really quite frightening, is they are doing what they call the Utah

00:13:00.320 Compromise, the idea being that they are going to expand the anti-discrimination law to include

00:13:04.640 sexual orientation, gender identity. But then they'll have religious clawbacks. So if you say

00:13:08.180 you're a religious person, then there'll be a carve out for you. But here's the thing. You shouldn't

00:13:11.320 have to be a religious person to say true things about gender identity and sexual orientation. You

00:13:15.600 should not. As we saw at Vanderbilt, if you supposedly when you want to use your religious

00:13:20.800 exemption, there could still be consequences. Right, because what they say, what they always say about

00:13:24.080 religion is that religion is just covered for your bigotry, right? This is the line you always get,

00:13:27.280 is that it's not really that you have a really religious belief that, for example, men are men

00:13:31.500 and women are women, and that there are hierarchies in terms of the morality of sexual activity.

00:13:38.300 None of that's really a religious belief, they say. What they say is that that's just your bigotry

00:13:41.580 speaking, and so you use the Bible as a cover for your actual bigotry. And it's also not-

00:13:44.880 You don't need the Bible or any of the rest of this. You could just use, you know, science and logic

00:13:48.660 to come up with some basic natural law explanations of how human people are supposed to act in sexual

00:13:53.240 context. But we're not allowed to do that either. That has now been relegated by the Supreme

00:13:56.980 Court, too. Only crazy religious people believe that, but if they say it's for their crazy religion,

00:14:00.580 then maybe we'll let them do it sometimes. Yeah. Well, you know, this very issue, of course,

00:14:07.420 did the most damaging thing possible. I mean, yes, there's the mutilation of children. Yes,

00:14:11.440 there's the advancing of mental illness and the elevation of mental illness in our society,

00:14:17.080 but it also cost me some money. What happened is Michael Knowles and Candace had a conversation,

00:14:22.220 not on the Daily Wire at all, about gender dysphoria. And our friends over at Harry's Razors,

00:14:29.480 for whom we had been advertising for some time, you know, sharing the goodwill of our audience and

00:14:34.940 exposing them to their products, decided that they not only weren't going to put up with you guys

00:14:38.980 talking about that on some other platform, but they were also going to condemn our audience as being,

00:14:44.280 you know, having values misalignment and being retrograde and all this stuff. I don't remember

00:14:47.440 there. Irreconcilable differences, essentially. Anyway, that pissed me off real good. And if you

00:14:54.400 remember, at that time, I thought that a funny thing to do would be to launch a multi-million

00:14:58.720 dollar business, because that's always, to me, the funniest joke is the joke that you take to the

00:15:03.200 absolute most expensive extreme. Exactly. The more expensive, the better. And so we launched

00:15:08.260 Jeremy's Razors, and it's done very well over these last five months. We've sold 85,000 Razor

00:15:13.040 subscriptions. People are loving the product because it's fantastic. I have our founder's

00:15:17.420 kit right here, and they wanted me to use it as a prop and unzip it and show you all the things

00:15:21.140 that are in it. But I'm just going to, spoiler alert, it's a Razor. It's a Razor. It's a wonderful

00:15:26.060 Razor. You're going to love it. But what's happening next with Jeremy's Razors? This is the question I

00:15:31.520 always get. And it occurred to me that there's a real problem. Obviously, if you want to stop giving

00:15:37.580 your money to well corporations that hate you, you're giving your money to Jeremy's Razors.

00:15:41.060 Obviously, you're not buying, if you're watching this program, you're not buying your Razors from

00:15:45.160 Harry's or Gillette anymore and literally propping up their socialist leftist fantasy agenda with your

00:15:52.400 money. But what about your friends? Right? You've still got, if your friend thinks Taco Tuesday is a

00:15:59.680 form of cultural appropriation, they need a Jeremy's Razor. They do. If your friend, they wrote these,

00:16:05.700 these are not my lines. Preach, preach Jeremy. If your friend insists that fantasy football draft

00:16:11.020 should start with a land acknowledgement. So we're launching this amazing competition,

00:16:20.260 the contest for a car over at jeremysrazors.com slash play. And here's the thing. You can send

00:16:26.260 out a unique referral link. You can start sharing that around to your friends. And someone is going

00:16:31.720 to win the God King's McLaren. So I know if you're watching this show, you're probably watching it

00:16:38.840 backstage live when I said, it's not actually my McLaren, but here's how far I'm willing to take

00:16:43.280 a joke. I bought the damn McLaren. I bought the McLaren so that I could give it away to whoever

00:16:50.100 actually wins the contest for the car and refers the largest number of people, rescues the largest

00:16:55.380 number of their friends from the tyranny of woke razor companies. It should be you. I'm just going to tell

00:17:01.840 you, I bought the car. I have not driven it. I drove the car once in the commercial. So it's used.

00:17:08.860 God Kings don't drive used McLaren. So it's in a very lovely air conditioned facility here in

00:17:15.100 Nashville. And it's just waiting to become yours. Head over to jeremysrazors.com slash play. Get your

00:17:22.100 unique referral code. Send it around to your friends. Rescue them from the tyranny of woke razors.

00:17:26.680 They'll get $12 off of their Founders Series Shave Kit. You'll get credit that you can put

00:17:32.420 against all the sort of upcoming Jeremy's products by Black Friday. We're going to have, well, I won't

00:17:36.180 spoil it here. That's another announcement. Lots of amazing new products are coming. And most

00:17:40.140 importantly, you'll get points in the race to win the God Kings McLaren. You'll also get points by

00:17:44.460 referring Daily Wire Plus memberships to your friends. So get out there. We've got six weeks on

00:17:49.160 November 1st. We're going to declare the winner. They're going to get those keys to that beautiful

00:17:52.820 McLaren 600. It's one of, I mean, fewer than 600 of these were even made. It truly is an

00:17:58.200 unbelievable vehicle. And I truly can't be seen in a used sports car. So head over again,

00:18:04.380 jeremysrazors.com slash play. We're kicking this off right now. In fact, Michael, you were a part of

00:18:10.360 the actual release. I was in the video. I was in the McLaren. I may have been in the McLaren more

00:18:17.400 than you have been in the McLaren. Certainly. I, I think I know the answer to this because as I

00:18:22.900 just mentioned to you, the, the funniness of the joke depends upon how expensive it is. Yes.

00:18:29.140 Are, are you actually giving away the McLaren? Oh yeah. I'm actually giving away the McLaren.

00:18:34.740 As I said, the McLaren, Michael, is used. I cannot stress it. As a partner in this business,

00:18:40.860 I do wish that some things had been run by me before Jeremy went and purchased an extraordinarily

00:18:47.160 expensive vehicle to give it away. You know what he was thinking? I, I actually bought the car

00:18:51.420 personally. The business did not buy the car because it had to be around. It had to be the

00:18:56.440 God King's McLaren, right? It couldn't be the Daily Wire's McLaren. That's not cool. I know,

00:19:00.500 I know what was going through your head. You said this company, which was really, it just started as

00:19:04.180 kind of a vindictive joke against Harry's. It was too shockingly profitable. So you said that we

00:19:09.680 cannot have that. We've got to put that money back into a car. I just feel like I should get

00:19:13.760 credit. I just feel like I should get credit for this. I'm the one that posed that question to you

00:19:18.020 on an entirely different platform in which you answered. By the way, behind every great male idea

00:19:23.260 is a woman that is being ignored. I know. And for some reason they came after me when truly all I did

00:19:29.180 was agree with the point you made. And they said, Knowles, that horrible bigot, he agreed with

00:19:33.920 Candace. You're welcome. Yep. I just want to, I just want to say, this is tough for me to see that

00:19:38.640 someone's going to get this really nice car because I just went literally today and bought

00:19:42.820 a used 12-passenger van for my one million kids. The Tradwagon? Yeah. Yeah. Great. I went to a car

00:19:50.580 dealership that operates out of a motel, which is true, and I bought a 12-passenger van. So I will

00:19:56.000 never drive a car like that. I've got too many kids. My original idea was to have you guys compete

00:20:01.480 against each other to win the car. Oh my gosh. And then legal said that that absolutely could not

00:20:06.060 happen under certain circumstances. Why? I don't know. Even if we just did it as like a gladiator

00:20:10.180 fight where we just beat the crap out of each other? No, that's exactly what I had in mind.

00:20:13.520 Who did you think was going to win? That's a very important question. Candace, you're the only one

00:20:16.980 who could possibly drive the car. Obviously. Obviously. The rest of us would be pulled over just for being

00:20:22.540 in the car. There was a Digiday story this week about media companies launching consumer goods

00:20:31.660 businesses and how they all failed. And I thought, it's so interesting that the left can't grant any

00:20:36.540 of our successes. The Daily Wire is one of the biggest media companies, and we've launched a

00:20:40.660 successful consumer goods business. So they just ignore our existence altogether. It doesn't fit

00:20:45.300 there. Or they try to de-platform. So the CBC this week put out a story suggesting, once again,

00:20:50.400 that I'm mainlining people directly into extremism. And it was pretty great. I mean, the story itself

00:20:55.780 was a lot of fun. It said, well, he is not associated with any known hate group. He does

00:21:01.900 hold extremist views. And then the extremist view was that I had said that gender dysphoria is a

00:21:07.900 mental illness. So me and the DSM-5. Yeah, I was going to say that used to be known. The two of us,

00:21:13.700 gender identity disorder, me and every psychologist in America. Until five minutes ago. Yeah. Well,

00:21:18.780 I mean, still, I mean, gender dysphoria and the DSM-5 is a mental disorder. I mean, that is what it is.

00:21:22.420 I like when they make fun of us for being moral. Like, I barely tweet anymore, but I went onto

00:21:26.160 Twitter and they were talking about me and Ben having this discussion about how pornography is

00:21:29.700 bad for relationships. And they were, like, mocking us. And I just went to myself, okay,

00:21:34.020 I guess because we're being moral and we're discussing the corrosion of American values.

00:21:39.380 That is what it is. They mock morality. I was racking my brain for, like, what was the thing that

00:21:43.620 was my extreme moral view? Because they were like, well, you know, he has extreme views on

00:21:47.820 objectification of women. I was like, have you met me? I'm an Orthodox Jew. Objectification of

00:21:52.260 women, like, ain't in the arse. So your extreme view is you're against it. Right, exactly.

00:21:56.920 And then they said something about masculinity. And I'm like, my extreme view on masculinity is

00:22:01.380 that men should get a job, get married, support their kids, and raise them. Like, I know,

00:22:06.560 very extreme stuff. And then I realized that the actual extreme view is, of course, all of those

00:22:09.940 things. Plus the idea that, as I said before, certain types of sexual activity are more moral

00:22:14.500 than other types of sexual activity. And this is the one big thing you are not allowed to say in the

00:22:17.760 United States. You're not allowed to say that any type of sexual activity is more or less moral

00:22:21.000 than any other type of sexual activity, because we have boiled down identity in the United States

00:22:24.480 to who you want to screw. And if you doubt in any way, shape, or form that somebody's choices on

00:22:30.520 this front are either less moral than another person's choice, without even talking about

00:22:34.780 government regulation, if you doubt that, then you are a bigot.

00:22:37.860 Unless you're a straight man not attracted to trans women, in which case they can condemn you.

00:22:43.140 That's right. I had a conversation with a gay friend last night who, and it was all about this

00:22:47.140 topic, the topic of identity, that the worst lie that's been peddled, I think, really on the entire

00:22:53.200 country, and in particular, it's been peddled on young people, and it's been peddled on gay men

00:22:57.560 in particular, is that your sexuality is the central defining aspect of your identity.

00:23:04.340 Yep.

00:23:04.840 And partially because I'm a Protestant and a contrarian, those two things probably go hand in hand.

00:23:10.660 Identity is like one of the most important topics to me, and I think that a person should craft their

00:23:17.960 identity. I think that the most American thing that one can do is not to say, I'll pick on you,

00:23:25.460 Michael, just for a minute. You're obviously very proudly an Italian and American, and you eat

00:23:28.980 meatballs, and one time, I remember an actual-

00:23:32.800 Kill people.

00:23:33.560 Yeah, that's right. Piano wire. I actually remember there was a whole year where Michael would,

00:23:38.880 before breakfast, bring a pizza pie to the Daily Wire.

00:23:42.100 Extra large.

00:23:42.700 Extra large.

00:23:43.340 He was trying to get in shape for a movie that Drew and I were never going to cast in.

00:23:48.320 I remember this, actually.

00:23:49.400 Yeah.

00:23:49.840 I gained 20 pounds of muscle.

00:23:51.160 You did?

00:23:51.420 Yeah, I did.

00:23:52.140 Well, you gained 20 pounds of American.

00:23:53.420 I realized there's one thing you're supposed to do. They say you gain all the muscle, and then

00:23:58.760 you're supposed to cut. I didn't cut. I never did the cut.

00:24:02.340 But I think that saying, I'm an Italian-American, can be taken to a bad place.

00:24:08.120 And that one of the things that's great about America is that we get to sort of look at the

00:24:12.600 world and choose the best parts and build the individual out of those best parts. You're not

00:24:19.120 just an Italian-American. I mean, the Queen died this week.

00:24:22.400 Yeah.

00:24:22.720 I was moved by it. I'm, as far as I know, not British. My ancestry isn't British, but I can look

00:24:29.280 at the role that Britain has played in world history. I can look at the work of Queen Elizabeth

00:24:35.220 over the 70 years of her reign and see something that I want to emulate, see values that I think

00:24:39.880 are good. And I want to appropriate, which I think is a very good term. I want to appropriate the best

00:24:44.320 things from around the world and build sort of a uniquely American identity or a uniquely Jeremy

00:24:48.480 identity. That doesn't mean throwing out the past. It just means that we get to be selective about

00:24:53.200 the past. I say all the time, I want to take the very best ideas of the past and build a future on

00:24:58.860 top of those. I want to dismiss the very worst ideas of the past and not include those in the

00:25:03.360 future that I think that we can all build together. But what we've said to young people

00:25:06.540 and gay men in America is, all you are. You're not the best ideas of the past. You're not the

00:25:11.960 best ideas of your heart. You're not the best ideas you've had.

00:25:14.940 You're not a pianist or a cellist or a woodworker or no.

00:25:18.340 That's right. You are only this thing.

00:25:20.140 Well, that's a Freudian. I mean, it's takeoff on Freud.

00:25:22.340 It grows from Freud, but it also eliminates the entire creative tension that America has

00:25:27.420 exemplified between identity and role. You know, the idea that, yes, I want to do this,

00:25:32.180 but it might be wrong. It might be bad for my spirit. Yes, I come from these descendants,

00:25:36.560 but I want to go in a new way. And that creates a tension. All our movies are about this,

00:25:41.360 Get Out and The Godfather about, you know, I want to be an American, but something else is pulling me.

00:25:45.980 And that is an incredibly creative way to live because it is, it exemplifies the spiritual life.

00:25:51.760 The spiritual life is that I'm in this body that wants certain things, but not all the things it

00:25:55.900 wants are good for me. And so we're in this wonderful tension.

00:25:58.460 Speaking of sort of Hollywood and all of this, you can see the evolution in movies of how

00:26:03.840 narrative has changed in America, right? All the movies used to be about how I'm driven to do

00:26:07.980 this thing that would be my bliss, but I have this role and I have this duty. And so I have to

00:26:11.700 actually do this role in the studio. And it's really important that I fulfill this role in the

00:26:14.200 studio. And now every movie is precisely the opposite. Society is calling on me to do this

00:26:18.040 thing, but I'm going to break free and be me. And being me is the most important thing that there

00:26:21.720 can possibly be. You see it in the, in, in the Disney universe to, we'll get to, I'm sure,

00:26:25.880 Matt's a, Matt's Disney comments in just a second, but the Disney universe went from

00:26:29.740 Jiminy Cricket saying, always let your conscience be your guide to Ilsa singing, no right, no

00:26:35.580 wrong, no rules. I'm free. Right. I mean, like the, the idea in, in Disney movies has explicitly

00:26:39.800 moved away from the idea of you're supposed to have a role within a certain confine to find

00:26:45.420 your bliss, be yourself and being yourself as the greatest hero you can be.

00:26:48.060 I do, I do think that Americans can be uniquely individuals, that you can be yourself. Who

00:26:53.600 your, who your true self is, isn't utterly unmoored from reality. I like the term classical

00:26:59.060 liberalism as a descriptor for my views. Classical is a major part of the term, right? It's not,

00:27:05.580 it's not freedom, uh, having, it's not throw away the past and you will be free, but it's within

00:27:11.080 the best ideas of the past. There is a freedom in the religious worldview. The idea is that you

00:27:15.220 are a biological being and you have to reach beyond yourself to values that are far beyond you

00:27:20.260 and you have to fulfill roles in order to reach those values, right? I mean, there, there's an

00:27:24.860 interplay between you and civilization. The process of raising a child is taking what is essentially a

00:27:28.560 piece of raw biological material and turning that into a civilized human being. This was the process

00:27:33.020 of, of actually civilizing people. And we've decided civilization is bad. It's an imposition on

00:27:37.300 people. And because civilization is an imposition on people, civilization itself must be wrecked and it

00:27:41.760 must be ruined. By the way, I think that you see a lot of this in the, in the rage at the

00:27:45.020 British empire, the rage at Queen Elizabeth II. The idea is that that, that, that great clip

00:27:50.060 of Don Lemon today. The Don Lemon clip. It's a spectacular clip. You know, this is why I think

00:27:54.980 we, we actually keep failing on the transgender stuff is B is because we're not taking this

00:27:59.940 conversation apart as conservatives, because what we keep doing is falling into the same

00:28:05.180 sort of liberal trap of, of reducing everything to, to chromosomes, you know, to biology instead

00:28:11.960 and, and, and who we are and identity and rights instead of what, what we're all talking about

00:28:16.480 right now, which is duty and obligation. That's what Edmund Burke talked about.

00:28:19.920 This is a way, this is a way, I already regret that I'm going to say this, but this is a way in

00:28:23.720 which Knowles is right about both the reformation and the enlightenment. The solution to the violence

00:28:28.740 that grew out of the religious division that came with the reformation was basically to say

00:28:32.800 to each his own. Uh, we're not going to solve this problem. We're going to separate. Do it. Say it.

00:28:36.880 Say it. Say it. Say peace of Westphalia. Say it. The peace of Westphalia. Yes! Oh! Yes!

00:28:40.840 That's a record. That's a record. 27 minutes. That's a record. Well, I also, I also think, but it's,

00:28:45.000 but let me just, just finish the idea that the more conflicts you result, you take away,

00:28:51.120 theoretically, the more peace there'll be, right? So if there's no moral arguments to be had,

00:28:55.760 we won't get into moral arguments. And of course it works like everything on the left. It works

00:28:59.340 exactly the opposite. But if you remove all this tension, you remove all the source of

00:29:03.780 creativity in life, all the, all the fights between the many and the few, all the fights

00:29:08.120 between freedom and equality, all those things that have been the creative engine of our lives

00:29:12.740 are taken away and you're left with nothing but this kind of flat deadness of desire where you want

00:29:17.760 and you get, and then you feel bad, but you can't say so. I agree with, with all of this, but I also,

00:29:23.360 I also sort of feel that if you ask someone, what's your identity or how do you identify or where do you

00:29:29.140 find your identity? I think maybe the healthiest answer to get from someone is sort of, I don't

00:29:33.160 know, what are you, why are you asking me that? Because another problem is that we spend, we spend

00:29:36.700 so much time, I think this was a change in Western cultures. We spent all this time sort of like

00:29:41.720 peering back within ourselves and, and constantly thinking, well, who am I and why am I here? And

00:29:46.360 what, what is, well, not even why I'm here, just who am I and how do I feel and where do I find my

00:29:50.440 identity? And it's just this constant peering back within yourself and you kind of get law,

00:29:54.420 you get sort of like sucked into yourself like a black hole and just everything gets sucked along

00:29:57.640 with you. I think, I think the most, if you, if you go to cultures where they don't, they don't

00:30:02.440 have this hangup and you ask them these questions, yeah, they find their identity and duties and

00:30:06.560 responsibilities and all of that is true. But if you ask them, where do you find your identity?

00:30:10.400 They'll just look at you like, what kind of question is that? They inhabit, right. They inhabit their

00:30:14.700 identity so, so clearly that they don't even think about it. And so that's one of the, that's one of

00:30:19.440 the problems is even by having this conversation, it's sort of like we're, we're making identity

00:30:23.800 complicated. But there is a simple answer actually because of what Jeremy said. I mean,

00:30:27.500 American identity is complicated. It does require, I think, more thought because we are making

00:30:33.160 choices that no one has ever made before. I agree with you. Obviously you're agreeing with me.

00:30:37.300 Yeah. Well, has anybody seen the TikTok domino video of the guy telling you every feeling that

00:30:42.480 he has as a, as a domino? I thought that was the culture in a nutshell. The thing, it's a very

00:30:47.040 beautiful domino thing where it falls in different ways and different colors fall over. And each second

00:30:52.100 of it, he says, oh, that makes me feel good. Oh, that makes me feel angry. Now I'm frustrated. Oh,

00:30:55.820 I'm so happy that happened. Like that's the culture in a nutshell. It's not that we search

00:31:00.440 for identity, which I think is a complicated American thing to do. It's that we care about

00:31:04.780 every little damn thing. And that's not the point at all.

00:31:08.420 And to the religious man, our identity is supposed to in some way, yes, in some ways be caught up in

00:31:14.340 duties and caught up in role, but caught up in God. You know, the, the Christian answer is that

00:31:19.080 our identity is in Christ. And the Jewish answer is that our identity is not in Christ.

00:31:28.600 This is a mild disagreement.

00:31:32.840 Didn't we still get to kill you guys?

00:31:34.640 This is the simple answer, right? You know, God, God in the burning bush talks to Moses and he says,

00:31:39.760 my name is I am who I am and I am essence itself. And so, yeah. And so, you know, if you find your

00:31:45.640 identity in being in, I am who I am, then it's pretty simple. And by the way, a lot of that

00:31:51.000 downstream comes to duty and role. And here's what you're supposed to do.

00:31:55.720 But there's also jazz. Like, I don't want to be, I'm not a conservative. I'm not a conservative in the,

00:32:01.140 in the fundamental sense. Uh, I don't think that our, that we are born into sort of a gray life

00:32:07.480 in which we must live out our precise duty and do exactly what was done before us. Of course,

00:32:12.620 I don't think that we're, we're to be free. And I love the complexity of American identity. We,

00:32:17.020 we do have the opportunity to, to play jazz, but the thing about jazz or the thing about the great

00:32:22.500 impressionist painters is the impressionists were good painters and the great jazz musicians are good

00:32:27.200 musicians. They know the rules. They know the difference between John Coltrane playing notes

00:32:30.260 and you playing notes on a trumpet. That's exactly right. And we've completely obliterated this.

00:32:34.920 This is one of the problems actually, I mean, as our friend Dennis Prager would say in art,

00:32:37.480 this is one of the big problems that the people who knew how to color outside the lines also knew

00:32:40.620 how to color inside the lines. They knew the purpose of the lines. And now art is basically,

00:32:44.400 we don't know the purpose of the lines. We don't know the purpose of any, and that's true in society

00:32:47.320 also. What is the purpose of these roles? Why do we even need these roles? What if we just explode

00:32:51.040 these roles? And one of the big problems is that in a post enlightenment era, one of the things

00:32:54.580 that we've done is now I'm going to quote Oakshot again. Here we go, baby. We're doing it.

00:32:58.600 Michael's jam right here. We're going far right tonight. You were just a corrupting character.

00:33:02.040 It turns out Michael is the gateway drug.

00:33:05.940 But Peter Boghossian, he put out that picture that I was talking about earlier of that person

00:33:11.560 in Toronto who's wearing like the fake breasts. And he said, you know, try to explain to somebody

00:33:16.000 like just in a rationalistic way, we all have the gut feeling this should not be exposed to

00:33:19.240 children. Now try to explain to somebody in a rationalistic way why this shouldn't be exposed

00:33:23.180 to children. You can do it, but it's a little bit like you have to think about it for a second.

00:33:26.780 And the answer is you shouldn't have to think about it for a second. You should just say

00:33:29.380 this should not be exposed to children. And there's nothing wrong with that. That doesn't

00:33:32.760 make you a bad person. It's okay to have an instinct where you say this is not appropriate

00:33:36.200 for children because we have the inherited wisdom of ages saying this is not appropriate

00:33:40.520 for children. And tossing that out as a source of data is a real mistake. And one of the things

00:33:44.400 that we've done in a very American post enlightenment way is we've basically said, if I can't justify

00:33:50.820 it, it should be discarded. And that's not the way that you approach change.

00:33:53.740 I cannot tell you how much I agree with this. I've been for the last few weeks, I've been

00:33:58.020 talking to people about things that you should just not do because you should just not do

00:34:02.600 them like chemically castrating young, healthy boys or cutting the breasts off young, healthy

00:34:07.660 girls. Like there shouldn't, that shouldn't be a conversation. There should not be. And

00:34:10.880 that actually is a conversation with only one side. Stop doing that. And, and, you know,

00:34:14.760 you only have to go back. I mean, I know this is such an over, it's become such an overused

00:34:18.860 trope, but it's still a good thing to remember that the, the logic, so many of the, of the

00:34:23.800 Nazis were tried after the war said, well, you know, this wasn't my business. This was

00:34:28.140 the business of, of medical people. And you'd say, why medical people? Well, it was death.

00:34:32.980 That's a medical thing. So I didn't have to deal with it. You think there are certain

00:34:36.300 things that you do where you just say, don't do that.

00:34:39.020 Now it's good to live. I'm sorry. I'll, I'll, I'll back out, but it's good to live in a culture.

00:34:42.940 A free culture has a healthy left and a healthy left should be able to ask incredibly challenging

00:34:50.800 questions. They should posit questions. Even, I mean, I can't say that they should posit,

00:34:56.080 should we chemically castrate children? But many of the things that we discussed should be posited.

00:35:01.400 But what, where we've arrived in critical theory in this country is that simply by positing the

00:35:06.500 question, you've abolished the standard. That's what's wrong.

00:35:10.760 They reverse the burden of proof, right? Normally when you come in and you, and you actually change

00:35:14.320 a thing, the burden of proof is on you to demonstrate why the thing should be changed.

00:35:17.700 Instead of what they've said is, we don't have to show you why the thing should be

00:35:20.500 changed. We don't have to show you what the effect of, will be of changing the thing.

00:35:24.520 Me asking you to justify it. And if you don't give me an answer that I like,

00:35:27.980 I can just blow it up. And that's not the way that good change ever gets done. I mean,

00:35:31.060 if you were to, if you were to design a device in a lab and somebody designed half of it and

00:35:35.600 you came to them and you're like, I want you to explain every little bit and pieces. I don't

00:35:38.040 like it. You smash it. And you have to explain what you're going to do next with the pieces that

00:35:41.780 are there that is going to be better than what's already been built. And the left feels no onus to do

00:35:45.240 any of this. They just believe that if you destroy all the pieces of this particular machine, they can just on

00:35:50.020 faith, on faith in themselves, that they can rebuild this incredibly complex structure that,

00:35:54.100 by the way, was not actually thought out. It evolved over time. This is the truth about human

00:35:58.060 systems. Human systems are evolutionary. They are not rationalistic. Now you're from a Burkean,

00:36:02.120 too. But I mean, this was all well-known. I mean, even the people who we talk about as classical

00:36:07.700 liberals, until you got to basically John Stuart Mill, even they acknowledged that most of the things

00:36:14.420 that we believe are not things that we can actually rationalize. I mean, David Hume says this,

00:36:17.640 and David Hume is a real classical liberal. So even classical liberals understood that you

00:36:22.380 inherit wisdom and that most wisdom is not something that came up out of your head tabula

00:36:25.760 rasa. And this idea that you can just create a system of rules based on your own logic is

00:36:29.560 completely insane. Matt, we interrupted you a few times. Yeah, I think the left's, that's why the

00:36:35.120 left's basic tactic here is to make simple things complicated. They don't have to explain anything.

00:36:40.000 The point you made about burden of proof is so important. I think that's exactly the point.

00:36:43.260 You know, if somebody comes along and says, you know, my pronouns are Zs or Zem,

00:36:48.360 why won't you use them? Why won't you use the pronouns? No, you tell me why I should. Give me

00:36:52.260 a good reason why I should. It's on you. But I also think that all they do is they take these very

00:36:56.360 simple innate things and they don't offer any evidence. They just throw a lot of words and make

00:37:01.120 it very complicated. I mean, The Atlantic had an article about why, you know, actually we shouldn't be

00:37:06.240 sex-segregating sports. Everyone thinks we should, but we shouldn't. Then you read the article,

00:37:09.760 read the article, and the article actually links to studies, too. I read the studies because nobody

00:37:13.400 actually does it. There's nothing there. It's just a bunch of words. There's no conclusions.

00:37:16.780 It's just, all it is is obfuscation to make it seem complicated. At the end, they hope that you

00:37:20.960 kind of throw your hands up and say, I don't understand this. And then they come along and

00:37:24.000 say, well, I've got the credentials. You know, Jack Turbin, this, Jack Turbin, this, this,

00:37:28.840 another one of these gender ideology doctors. But he's been to every fancy school in America for 37 years.

00:37:33.520 Right, right. He tweeted this week that he's got 15 years in Ivy League school. So basically just,

00:37:37.700 you know, back away and leave him alone. But it's like, you spent 15 years in Ivy League schools.

00:37:41.860 You know less about biology than my five-year-old. How is that?

00:37:44.920 My point, I got to give Jack Turbin a little credit. I mean, I've been, I've been fighting

00:37:48.280 Jack Turbin online and many, you know, for, I remember that guy first popped up and he seemed

00:37:53.180 so crazy and he is so crazy. But his point in that tweet where he was bragging about all his stupid

00:37:57.960 degrees, you know, 15 years at Harvard, he doesn't know what the difference between a boy and a girl is.

00:38:02.520 But he said, you know, that the best you guys on the right can come up with is talking about

00:38:06.520 chromosomes. And that's actually not true. What we're saying is that men and women are different

00:38:10.980 and you can see this in chromosomes and elsewhere. But furthermore, men have an obligation to act like

00:38:18.320 men and women have an obligation and a duty to act like women. And there's actually a role for people

00:38:25.060 in society. And that, I think, would make the guy's head explode.

00:38:27.060 This is why it's very important that Candace not get any credit for anything that she does.

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00:39:45.160 April 22nd, the year of our Lord, 2022. Our friend, Jack Basobiec, bussing illegals to D.C.

00:39:56.260 doesn't seem to be doing much of anything. In reply, Candace Owens, now five days a week

00:40:03.040 at Daily Wire Plus, buss them to Martha's Vineyard. Wow. Behold!

00:40:09.980 Wow. Behold! The policy genius.

00:40:16.120 We'll never get credit for this. I was just like, am I really not going to get credit for this?

00:40:19.860 This whole team follows me. We're just going to go ahead and let him say this was his genius

00:40:23.600 policy idea. I was like, okay, that's fine. You didn't buss them, though. You flew them.

00:40:26.200 That's true. And I just tweeted. So I guess he did.

00:40:30.260 He did technically do more. But yes, that policy was informed from my Twitter feed. It was so obvious

00:40:36.720 to me. The inner city communities is where crime and corruption happens anyways. So it's like,

00:40:41.800 okay, yes, it's already bad. We're going to turn it into Gotham City. Sure. If you really want to

00:40:45.900 make them uncomfortable, obviously, when they leave the city, they go to Martha's Vineyard. They go to

00:40:51.200 Montauk. This is the places that if you really want to see policy change really quickly, you should

00:40:55.780 ship them. And so, DeSantis, it is totally fine that you stole my idea and made it yours.

00:41:02.880 How gracious of you.

00:41:03.900 Alicia. Yeah, exactly. Exactly. It's totally fine. And I am going to be humble and say that

00:41:08.980 it was totally my idea that you did. But I'm glad you had the courage to do it. I love it. I think

00:41:14.180 it's great.

00:41:14.440 I love about women, the way they stand behind men.

00:41:16.900 And if anyone's looking for a potential running mate, DeSantis and Candace kind of rhymes.

00:41:21.580 Wow.

00:41:22.020 That's all I'm saying. That's all I'm saying.

00:41:24.080 This is one of the best stories of the week. And just before we went on the air, Ben pointed out to me

00:41:28.460 that apparently in this particular group of illegal immigrants has already fully embraced

00:41:35.780 the American way of life and sued DeSantis.

00:41:38.740 They issued a lawsuit just before the show began in which they are claiming false imprisonment.

00:41:44.100 They're claiming failure of due process.

00:41:45.940 They're claiming only the federal government really gets to, I guess, ship them to random

00:41:49.720 towns in the Southwest and just leave them there at bus stops, which is what the federal

00:41:52.540 government does by the hundreds of thousands every single year.

00:41:54.780 That's right.

00:41:55.280 But Ron DeSantis is putting them on an air-conditioned charter plane after they signed

00:41:57.980 forms saying they would like to go on these air-conditioned charter planes and then being

00:42:01.880 shipped up to Martha's Vineyard where they greatly enrich the lives of all of the white

00:42:06.160 liberals who are up there for a grand total of 44 hours.

00:42:09.440 And half-white liberals.

00:42:11.120 That's true.

00:42:11.760 To be incredibly precise.

00:42:14.000 Before the National Guard are called in to cleanse the place of these illegal immigrants

00:42:17.640 and send them to a local military base.

00:42:20.500 I have to say that what an amazing country this is, truly.

00:42:25.080 That your life story over the past eight weeks was trekking the jungles of El Salvador and eating

00:42:31.640 raw mango and watching your friends die of disease all the way up through Mexico.

00:42:36.340 You finally make it to that border.

00:42:37.840 The government leads you home.

00:42:39.160 You pay off MS-13, right?

00:42:39.820 You pay off the quartel.

00:42:40.640 Right.

00:42:41.060 The coyotes smuggle you across the border in a truck.

00:42:43.380 You narrowly escape dying in Bexar County in the back of a hot truck.

00:42:46.980 And then you are released as like a homeless person on the street, which is where apparently

00:42:50.100 these folks were found.

00:42:51.960 And then you are flown to literally the richest area of the United States on a charter flight,

00:42:55.980 which is what most Americans, I mean, maybe this should be actually our next Jeremy's

00:42:59.880 Razors promo, is that if you sell a lot of razors, we will put you on a charter

00:43:03.700 flight to Martha's Vineyard.

00:43:05.200 Because that's pretty awesome.

00:43:06.280 Where you can enrich the lives.

00:43:07.840 So many.

00:43:09.040 So many.

00:43:09.740 And so now they are suing Governor DeSantis.

00:43:11.840 Yeah, but which progressive that lives on Martha's Vineyard is obviously funding that

00:43:15.700 lawsuit?

00:43:16.160 I mean, who do you think it is that's going to be behind it?

00:43:17.600 Because they didn't come up with this idea all by themselves.

00:43:19.040 Oh, no, no.

00:43:19.340 There's a legal aid fund.

00:43:20.540 It's a left-wing legal aid fund.

00:43:21.820 Of course.

00:43:21.940 That is being funded by them, obviously.

00:43:23.640 I just liked watching the guys on Martha's Vineyard quickly painting over their in-this-house-we-believe

00:43:28.020 signs, you know?

00:43:28.780 Yeah, the ones.

00:43:29.660 Keep out.

00:43:30.100 Keep out.

00:43:30.660 We meant.

00:43:30.980 Well, what they said was one of the Martha's Vineyard residents said that after they deported

00:43:34.820 them, you know, they called the military and to deport them to a military base.

00:43:37.900 They said, we were so happy they were here.

00:43:40.420 We were so happy to help them on their journey.

00:43:42.960 That's a good euphemism for deportation.

00:43:44.800 Maybe we can start using that.

00:43:46.220 Help them on their journey back to Mexico.

00:43:47.900 Did you see NBC News?

00:43:49.100 They had to delete the tweet, but they didn't delete the article.

00:43:51.660 They said that, oh, there it is.

00:43:54.040 There's the tweet.

00:43:54.480 Florida Governor Ron DeSantis sending asylum seekers to Martha's Vineyard is like me taking

00:43:58.820 my trash out and driving to different areas where I live and just throwing my trash there.

00:44:04.280 Hey, did you hear what I called them?

00:44:05.720 I called them trash.

00:44:08.100 That's what they believe.

00:44:09.040 That's what they think of immigrants.

00:44:10.160 A foundation that helps refugees.

00:44:11.540 That's how that person sees them.

00:44:13.280 My favorite guy was Ken Burns, though.

00:44:15.780 Ken Burns is always kind of stuck in my craw.

00:44:17.580 He's always getting this kind of, oh, this brilliant, the documentary, and he's brilliant.

00:44:20.860 So he's just done a documentary on America's role in the Holocaust, which, by the way, was

00:44:24.580 basically zilch.

00:44:25.520 I mean, we don't have control over everything.

00:44:27.320 F.J.R.D. in the grave.

00:44:28.200 What's that?

00:44:28.820 F.J.R.D. in the grave.

00:44:29.820 No, but still.

00:44:31.460 So he's done this thing, and it's getting brilliant, brilliant, brilliant.

00:44:33.840 That's all it gets.

00:44:34.880 He's on CNN, and a guy compares shipping these illegals to Martha's Vineyard to shipping Jews

00:44:41.600 to Auschwitz, and Ken Burns nods and sort of picks up the idea and kind of goes with

00:44:46.160 it.

00:44:46.260 And I thought, a man that shallow is essentially two-dimensional, you know?

00:44:51.700 I mean, no wonder he's working in film, because film really only has two dimensions.

00:44:55.080 And I thought, this guy should not be allowed to say anything.

00:44:58.940 The words Holocaust should not be allowed to come out of his mouth after saying that,

00:45:01.960 because, I mean, you know, aside from-

00:45:03.080 Don't you see the similarity?

00:45:04.040 Yeah, well-

00:45:04.760 They're exactly the same.

00:45:05.380 The golf courses are better on Martha's Vineyard, but you didn't need them in Auschwitz.

00:45:10.720 Also, all the people in Martha's Vineyard did was also put them in buses and ship them

00:45:17.020 away.

00:45:17.500 Yeah.

00:45:17.940 That's what the federal government does.

00:45:19.720 But when they do, the federal government does.

00:45:21.380 That's right.

00:45:22.040 The federal government leaves the border wide open, basically begging people to cross the

00:45:26.040 Rio Grande and drown.

00:45:26.980 How many migrants are dying every year of dehydration in the back of bands, are dying,

00:45:31.800 being washed away down the Rio Grande?

00:45:34.020 And meanwhile, we're told that Joe Biden, he can't be bothered.

00:45:36.480 You saw today that Joe Biden was asked about the fact that DeSantis has said that he's going

00:45:40.060 to ship some illegal immigrants up to Rehoboth, Delaware.

00:45:43.720 He's going to ship them up to Biden's vacation home, wherever it is.

00:45:47.200 And Biden was like, well, you know, the weather's real nice here this time of year.

00:45:50.680 It's like, well, I thought it was your job to take care of these people.

00:45:52.840 I thought this was your job.

00:45:54.220 That's right.

00:45:54.400 Eric Adams had a pretty wild exchange on Jake Tapper, where he was talking about how terrible

00:45:58.980 it is.

00:45:59.340 All these people are being shipped here, and it's just so terrible, and it's training our social

00:46:01.620 services system, because when you ship 11,000 illegal immigrants since May to a city of

00:46:06.100 8.5 million people, that strains the social services system, but it does not strain the

00:46:09.480 social services system of Yuma, Arizona, population 97,000, have 100,000 people sent there every

00:46:14.240 year.

00:46:14.500 That doesn't do anything.

00:46:15.600 And then Eric Adams is asked by Tapper, so would you say to Joe Biden that he needs to

00:46:19.220 get control of the board?

00:46:19.840 He's like, no, no, this is a humanitarian problem with a human cause.

00:46:23.020 He's like, well, is that human Joe Biden?

00:46:23.860 No, no, it's not Joe Biden.

00:46:25.440 It has nothing to do, but the federal government should be left in charge of this issue.

00:46:28.320 I will say, when you're explaining, you're losing.

00:46:30.660 And the left has been explaining an awful lot on this particular issue.

00:46:33.120 I do have to say, I thought DeSantis, the guy's a boss.

00:46:36.640 I just love the guy at this point.

00:46:38.000 You know, I thought it was one of the great political moves of all time.

00:46:40.800 I do have a heart for these poor people.

00:46:43.040 You know, I hate to say this because Shapiro will kill me about it for weeks, but I have

00:46:47.520 a heart for these poor people who have gotten involved in the fact that our politics has

00:46:51.580 collapsed into absurdity.

00:46:53.520 You know?

00:46:53.900 So, I mean, DeSantis is doing absolutely nothing that the federal government hasn't done.

00:46:57.240 But at the same time, these people are being, you know, these poor, desperate people.

00:47:00.240 I don't have the same heart.

00:47:01.460 What do you mean?

00:47:01.960 I mean, they're opting into this.

00:47:04.540 They're opting into this.

00:47:05.840 They're not.

00:47:06.240 I thought Shapiro was going to come at me.

00:47:07.500 They're taking them out.

00:47:07.900 Yeah.

00:47:08.140 Like, taking them out of these South American cities and forcing them to come to America

00:47:11.840 and be dealt with, like, ping pong, political ping pong.

00:47:14.520 It's like, they're opting into this.

00:47:15.800 No, but I'd opt into it.

00:47:17.180 Is that what they're opting into?

00:47:17.760 I would opt into it if I were them, too.

00:47:19.520 Yeah.

00:47:19.680 I mean, the truth is, America is a place that calls forth the dispossessed, right?

00:47:25.700 That's part of what we do.

00:47:26.600 The problem isn't even that we have open borders.

00:47:29.140 I mean, open borders is bad.

00:47:30.680 Unsecured borders is bad.

00:47:31.860 But America actually always has been incredibly pro-immigrant.

00:47:35.640 The problem is that in the second half of the 20th century, the left did away with the

00:47:40.860 idea of the melting pot.

00:47:41.900 They did away with the idea that people need to assimilate into our...

00:47:44.680 There almost wasn't a distinction, though, for many hundred...

00:47:47.380 You know what?

00:47:47.760 I'm the only one here that's married to an immigrant, right?

00:47:49.980 No.

00:47:50.280 Yeah.

00:47:50.680 I am.

00:47:51.440 Oh, crap.

00:47:52.240 And we're trying to deport him, too, by the way.

00:47:53.980 But there's a process.

00:47:54.480 You know, there's a process.

00:47:55.680 And people don't realize how long that process takes.

00:47:58.120 Of course.

00:47:58.580 And so it's such an insult to just be like, well, you know, America is...

00:48:01.980 But the main reason...

00:48:02.540 We like legal immigration.

00:48:03.500 The main reason that we have all these processes is because we've actually destroyed the thing

00:48:07.860 that made America able to be the most open country to immigrants in all of history,

00:48:11.680 which is the melting pot and individualism.

00:48:15.620 Once you have a welfare state and multiculturalism, now you have to close down these borders.

00:48:20.020 Well, I mean, it used to be that you left a place in Europe where you had, you know,

00:48:24.080 whatever level of material well-being you had to go to a place that was a literal wilderness

00:48:29.060 and there was nothing really here.

00:48:30.820 There wasn't a lot here.

00:48:31.620 And even if you're talking like early 20th century, for you, there really was still not

00:48:35.620 a lot here.

00:48:36.160 You were arriving here dirt poor, not knowing the language.

00:48:38.400 So what that meant...

00:48:39.240 And there was no welfare system.

00:48:40.180 So the basic idea was that maybe if you were lucky, you had some distant relatives who

00:48:43.560 were here who would prop you up for a few months while you learned to stop speaking

00:48:46.880 Yiddish and you started speaking English, which is exactly what happened with my relatives

00:48:49.880 four generations ago when they came in 1907.

00:48:51.800 But the basic idea was that we were drawing the best, the most entrepreneurial, the people

00:48:56.440 who are the most risk-seeking to the United States.

00:48:59.060 And there's still a lot of those people who I think want to get here.

00:49:01.380 But when you have a welfare state and basically the idea is you get here and we are going to

00:49:04.540 provide you all of these fulsome benefits, of course it changes the math.

00:49:07.440 And that's not just in the United States.

00:49:08.380 That's interesting.

00:49:08.800 Why do you think a right-wing government just took a seat in Sweden?

00:49:11.180 But why are we doing this?

00:49:12.300 I think that's kind of a question that is on a lot of people's minds is why is America

00:49:15.480 doing this?

00:49:15.900 Because people keep saying like open borders, it's bad policy.

00:49:18.360 No, it's actually good policy for the left.

00:49:20.180 They're doing this intentionally.

00:49:20.780 Also, you know, today...

00:49:22.180 They predicted that when they got power, the first thing they were going to do was try

00:49:24.860 to flood a bunch of illegal immigrants over it.

00:49:27.420 And they pretended that this was some wild conspiracy theory and it wasn't actually true.

00:49:31.860 Sounds like a great replacement theory to me.

00:49:34.100 Well, yeah, exactly.

00:49:34.680 You're going to get canceled for that.

00:49:36.520 Whoa.

00:49:36.900 But I've been saying it forever.

00:49:38.020 They want to replace black Americans, right?

00:49:40.220 I think that what we're seeing and what has been shown is that obviously black Americans

00:49:44.620 are the most impacted by this influx of illegal immigration.

00:49:48.780 And this was, by the way, policy work that was done under Obama to reveal that they were

00:49:52.180 taking black American jobs.

00:49:53.580 This is not a conspiracy theory.

00:49:54.840 It was actually a congressional review that was done, a policy paper.

00:49:59.500 And when you talk about that, when you say, actually, I was saying this black America

00:50:02.740 like crazy, as soon as they get power, our vote is going to be irrelevant.

00:50:05.800 Right.

00:50:06.080 Because what they're going to want to do is they're going to suddenly say, which they

00:50:08.300 have said this week, let's just give them all status immediately, right?

00:50:13.140 Which means this is going to turn these people into voters.

00:50:15.380 That's what they want.

00:50:16.080 They're telling you what they want to do.

00:50:17.860 And then again, and then that black American vote, which is so significant for the left,

00:50:20.940 it's not going to be that significant because they're going to turn to them like

00:50:23.500 they did to black America in the 1960s and they're going to offer them handouts.

00:50:26.420 They're going to offer them welfarism.

00:50:27.640 And they're going to say, well, if you vote for us, what we're going to do is give you

00:50:30.580 these handouts and these evil, backwards Republicans don't want that for you.

00:50:34.620 I mean, this is LBJ 2.0, the Great Society Act.

00:50:39.480 You know, to that point, I mean, that's a really excellent point.

00:50:43.940 But there is also this historical fact that for a lot of the early 20th century, we did

00:50:50.040 kind of put a pause on immigration because there was so much and there wasn't enough assimilation.

00:50:54.040 We had a major milestone today, which is that today, year to date, we've had two million

00:50:59.380 border apprehensions in the United States.

00:51:01.800 Apprehensions.

00:51:02.300 Those are just the ones we got.

00:51:03.240 OK, and it's only September.

00:51:04.460 So we've got a quarter of the year left.

00:51:06.560 That is an insane number.

00:51:08.160 That's border apprehensions.

00:51:09.420 Then you're going to have another million legal immigrants.

00:51:11.580 You're talking minimum three, three and a half.

00:51:13.300 Six, 700,000 gotaways.

00:51:14.820 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:15.500 And so when you look at the last 60 years of immigration, you're talking about the largest

00:51:20.060 movement of people in recorded history.

00:51:22.900 I don't think it takes a bigoted, awful, racist country to say, hey, maybe that's a lot of

00:51:29.140 people that you're actively not assimilating, by the way, because the left is multicultural.

00:51:32.840 I think the point about Sweden, though, is really well taken because this is the most successful

00:51:37.600 left-wing socialist country that was completely liberal because they were all the same.

00:51:43.920 They all agreed on everything.

00:51:44.880 They could all handle the welfare because they all had responsibilities to one another.

00:51:48.500 Now they've let in all these basically Muslim people.

00:51:51.420 The crime has gone up.

00:51:52.480 People are worried about this.

00:51:53.380 They've elected really a right-wing government with some ties to neo-Nazis.

00:51:59.120 And the question, the thing that you always forget is that fascism is always a counter-revolution.

00:52:04.820 Almost historically, fascism has always been a counter-revolution.

00:52:07.680 So these are the actions you take that lead to fascism in reaction to what you do.

00:52:12.680 I was recently reading Neil Ferguson.

00:52:14.100 No justification, but an explanation.

00:52:16.440 No, exactly.

00:52:17.520 But it's a good reason not to do this.

00:52:19.040 Of course, but if you're looking at history and you wish to prevent fascism, you should

00:52:21.380 stop pursuing policies that lead to a reaction that is fascist in nature.

00:52:24.920 You know, Neil Ferguson's book, The War of the World, I was recently reading that.

00:52:28.280 It's his history of essentially global politics from 1905 to 1953.

00:52:33.080 And he basically characterized World War I and II as part of the same long war.

00:52:37.160 And he says, when you're looking at global conflict, there's basically three major factors

00:52:42.660 that lead to global conflict.

00:52:43.880 One is declining empire, because when you have declining empire, then you have rising nation

00:52:47.500 states.

00:52:47.880 Rising nation states, empires tend to obliterate a lot of the ethnic distinctions that matter

00:52:52.380 because you have a greater loyalty to, say, the Roman Empire than you do to your locality,

00:52:55.780 or at the very least, they've delegated power down to the local level.

00:52:58.380 And so when those are replaced by nation states, what you end up with is some nation states that

00:53:02.020 are very homogenous in terms of composition and some that are very heterogeneous.

00:53:04.660 And that's a real problem, because then the slight majority in many of these states will

00:53:08.740 start picking on the minorities in those particular states.

00:53:10.820 So he says, ethnic conflict, decline of empire, economic uncertainty.

00:53:14.820 And I mean, when you look at the state of the world today, and you look at what the defining

00:53:20.480 factor is going to be, whether the United States wishes to decline.

00:53:23.420 If the United States wishes to decline, there will be global conflict, period, end of story.

00:53:28.100 Because the fact is, we are the only functional, quote unquote, empire on planet Earth, whether

00:53:31.980 we want to call ourselves that or not.

00:53:33.160 And if we decline, somebody else is going to fill that vacuum.

00:53:35.180 What fills that vacuum is not going to be particularly not.

00:53:37.020 Right, well, we're celebrating, when we start celebrating immorality, and we refuse to acknowledge

00:53:40.800 mental illness, which is, to me, the biggest issue in America today, we no longer call

00:53:44.420 mental illness, mental illness.

00:53:45.840 In fact, we celebrate it.

00:53:47.020 We encourage mental illness.

00:53:48.640 And then we look at the end of the day, and we say, well, I don't know why somebody walked

00:53:51.280 into a school and shut off the school.

00:53:53.020 Look at the culture.

00:53:53.900 Look at American culture right now.

00:53:55.280 We are in a state of degeneracy.

00:53:57.300 And that is the truth.

00:53:58.200 There are degenerates everywhere.

00:54:00.020 And people don't like to use that word, but that's quite literally, I spelled out the

00:54:04.180 definition today on my show, of what it means to be a degenerate.

00:54:07.000 And that's what's happening in American society today.

00:54:08.600 Did you name me?

00:54:09.640 That's not nice.

00:54:10.260 I didn't.

00:54:11.400 That's not nice.

00:54:12.080 And I wanted to comment on this earlier when we were talking about Queen Elizabeth, because

00:54:15.060 something that really stood out to me was this contrast of all of these pundits coming

00:54:19.120 out and saying, oh, well, people have a right to criticize her, right?

00:54:22.180 Her history is complex, right?

00:54:23.880 It's complicated.

00:54:24.560 And they were willing to do that deep dive on someone like Queen Elizabeth, which we

00:54:27.760 might agree with, right?

00:54:28.760 But who were they not willing to do that for?

00:54:30.600 The same people, and I checked their tweets because I wanted to cover it on my show, that

00:54:33.820 said she's a complicated figure and let's go into her history, did not want to do that

00:54:37.100 for George Floyd, right?

00:54:38.300 It was an act of racism to do that against George Floyd.

00:54:40.800 He was not a complicated person at all, according to them.

00:54:44.360 In fact, one of them actually tweeted that he better get time person of the year, right?

00:54:48.700 So when we're in a society where Queen Elizabeth is complicated and we should not be celebrating

00:54:53.680 her at all or honoring her life, rather, and George Floyd is not a complicated figure,

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00:56:28.100 Speaking of boudoir, I want to talk about the new Game of Thrones, House of the Dragon.

00:56:34.620 Is everybody watching the show?

00:56:35.920 Yes.

00:56:36.380 Absolutely not.

00:56:37.060 I'm one episode back.

00:56:37.980 I'm one episode back as well.

00:56:39.260 I've seen them all, so I won't spoiler alert.

00:56:41.980 Spoiler alert.

00:56:42.960 Can I just...

00:56:43.460 For you too.

00:56:43.920 We're not waiting.

00:56:44.220 Spoiler for both of you.

00:56:44.800 Yeah, we're not waiting.

00:56:45.620 Do it.

00:56:46.540 Do it.

00:56:47.240 I want to hear it.

00:56:48.000 I just don't know.

00:56:50.600 This last episode, I just felt suddenly we got into woke territory.

00:56:54.700 Like, there was just like the interracial relationship in, you know, England plus the gay couple plus.

00:57:02.040 I was just like, okay, where are we going here?

00:57:04.180 Is this going to be one episode?

00:57:05.200 And, by the way, all of that backlash when they were saying, oh, it's racist because of this.

00:57:10.620 It's like, no, it's just not realistic.

00:57:12.020 I don't care.

00:57:13.080 It's like watching a show that's supposed to be about Africa in 1820 and seeing, you know, a white person.

00:57:19.640 You know, it's just, I just want shows to be realistic and suddenly it's not allowed anymore, I guess.

00:57:24.740 Well, that reminds me of The Little Mermaid.

00:57:28.960 Can I make that transition?

00:57:30.760 Perfect segue.

00:57:31.260 The greatest thing that happened on the internet in 2022, Matt Walsh's Little Mermaid commentary.

00:57:36.420 Yeah.

00:57:37.200 Yeah.

00:57:38.760 Okay, so we're going to talk about that?

00:57:39.820 Yeah, we're talking about it.

00:57:41.080 This is a hard segue.

00:57:42.360 I liked it.

00:57:43.520 It wasn't a segue.

00:57:44.380 It was just like changing the subject.

00:57:46.240 It's not like I had something important I wanted to say about it.

00:57:49.660 For anyone who isn't familiar, so they've got this, of course, the Disney films are going through and just remaking.

00:57:54.980 They're doing the live action version of every cartoon, and so they're doing The Little Mermaid, but it's with the black mermaid who somehow still has red hair, but they don't explain that.

00:58:05.820 And so I happen to mention on my show, which is a scientific fact, that in reality, if there was a real mermaid living at the bottom of the ocean, because she does live at the bottom of the ocean, and we agree.

00:58:16.460 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:16.920 Right.

00:58:18.020 We agree.

00:58:18.640 Under the sea, some might say.

00:58:19.540 Under the sea.

00:58:20.200 I mean, she lives at the bottom of the ocean.

00:58:21.700 Let's be precise.

00:58:22.600 Under the sea.

00:58:23.120 Okay, right.

00:58:24.000 Not a lot of sunlight, so what that tells me is that she's not going to have dark skin.

00:58:29.500 She's going to basically be translucent.

00:58:31.500 You look at one of these deep-sea fish, and this is the point I've had on the show.

00:58:35.460 They're translucent.

00:58:36.720 Possibly bioluminescent.

00:58:37.960 Right, right.

00:58:38.680 Maybe they glow in the dark, but they're skeletal.

00:58:40.380 They're hideous.

00:58:41.740 They've got one of those things on the head, and if you saw one, really, if you would want to marry it like the guy does in the film, you'd be horrified.

00:58:48.900 And so that's the point I tried to make, a scientifically accurate trend.

00:58:53.700 Translucent mermaids matter.

00:58:55.080 Translucent mermaids matter.

00:58:55.840 Right.

00:58:56.020 I was advocating for translucent mermaids, and Media Matters takes it, and they clip it, and they post it, and they accuse me of racism because I advocated for translucent rights.

00:59:06.600 Basically, I'm a translucent supremacist, I suppose.

00:59:10.140 And the left just ran with it.

00:59:12.320 And the great thing is that I did briefly try to explain that I was joking.

00:59:17.280 I maybe sent one tweet.

00:59:18.340 I sent one tweet, and I'm like, you know, that's a joke, guys.

00:59:21.620 And all of them said, well, now you're backpedaling.

00:59:24.160 Really?

00:59:24.300 You think I wasn't joking when I said the mermaid should be translucent.

00:59:28.960 But then after that, you realize.

00:59:29.940 You should see her skeleton, you said.

00:59:31.960 What I love about.

00:59:33.160 What I love.

00:59:33.480 Try reading the lyrics to WAP sometime.

00:59:35.580 Oh, okay.

00:59:37.340 You will not be allowed to joke.

00:59:38.480 No sense of humor.

00:59:39.480 It's a 15-minute comedy segment, and the left is like, Ben Shapiro offended desperately by WAP.

00:59:44.940 It's like, this is one of their games.

00:59:47.080 They have many games.

00:59:48.140 One of their games is, what we're doing is good, and if you notice, you're bad.

00:59:52.740 And it's good that we're doing it, but we're not doing it, but we are doing it.

00:59:54.620 Right?

00:59:54.780 That's one of their favorite games.

00:59:55.580 The other one is, you're joking, and we know that you're joking, but we're going to pretend you're not joking so that we can say that what you seriously mean is that there should only be a white little mermaid.

01:00:04.000 And that's why you got to, I learned this lesson in the past.

01:00:06.940 I had to relearn it again briefly, but you have to just lean into it, which is why the next day on my show, I said, you know what?

01:00:12.800 I'm going to open my show and do a 15-minute monologue advocating for a translucent mermaid, and so that's how I opened the show.

01:00:20.240 I spent 15 minutes arguing for translucent mermaids because it's like, you know what?

01:00:23.920 Underrepresented.

01:00:24.640 By the way, I want to do it.

01:00:24.980 No, but underrepresentation, by the way, if we want to get into it, redheads.

01:00:28.260 I couldn't believe this.

01:00:29.520 Like, redheads are actually the one mermaid that's a redhead.

01:00:32.740 Like, I mean, I graduate with tons of black girls.

01:00:34.760 I didn't graduate with any redheads.

01:00:36.080 I just want to say that.

01:00:37.300 There also is a, even though it's funny with the translucent stuff, there is a valid point to be made about the racial representation in casting.

01:00:46.380 Obviously, there's a ridiculous double standard.

01:00:49.220 We know that, you know, if you take even a fictional character who is canonically black, change it to white, or even just, like, not black enough.

01:00:57.840 I mean, they did a live-action version of Aladdin, and some of the characters, they were all brown, but they weren't brown enough, a few of them.

01:01:04.240 And that was a controversy.

01:01:05.540 They did this with West Side Story.

01:01:06.660 It was, some of the actresses weren't Latina enough.

01:01:08.800 Or, most recently, James Franco playing Fidel Castro, and you've got even Hispanic actors in Hollywood saying they're going to boycott it, because, even though, actually, James Franco and Fidel Castro actually share some...

01:01:20.400 I mean, I felt with Hamilton, they weren't black enough.

01:01:23.520 No, they could have been black enough.

01:01:25.120 By the way, I mean, you're right in this, like, I said this on the show, I mean, The Little Mermaid was written by Hans Christian Andersen.

01:01:31.180 It is rooted in European mythology, right?

01:01:34.080 It is.

01:01:34.460 I mean, like, and if you did the same thing about a traditional African myth written by an African author, and then you made the character a blonde white lady...

01:01:42.280 Same for House of Dragons.

01:01:44.120 It's rooted in, giving you the ball, knock it out.

01:01:46.300 Yes.

01:01:46.940 I do want to say, though...

01:01:48.740 He doesn't want to talk about that.

01:01:49.660 He wants to talk about the porn.

01:01:50.660 I actually do want to say something about Media Matters.

01:01:54.100 Media Matters has made an art out of their fake news.

01:01:58.160 I mean, they are truly fake news.

01:01:59.840 It's like, people always accuse us of two things, clickbaity headlines and fake news.

01:02:04.260 Media Matters now, for the last two years, will take a clip of something we say.

01:02:09.380 They will excise the whole clip with context.

01:02:12.420 The clip that they posted of you had the whole translucent joke in it.

01:02:16.200 But then they write a clickbait headline, which omits all of the context.

01:02:22.160 Ellipses are their best friend.

01:02:23.180 This allows them to get a lot of clicks, saying something, attributing to you a view that you don't even hold, start up the left-wing rage machine.

01:02:34.360 They know that people won't watch the video and get the context, but they'll actually, because a video is linked, it adds credibility to the story.

01:02:41.840 So all the left-wing blue checks who start hitting you, you're so stupid you think that a fictional mermaid can't be black, which wasn't even the point.

01:02:49.580 I mean, you were making a joke.

01:02:50.840 But every one of those people both didn't watch the clip and felt that the story must be credible because of the presence of a clip.

01:02:58.740 And Media Matters continues the grift, which is a very profitable grift for us, thank you guys, glad you're watching, of clickbaits and fake news.

01:03:07.820 And no one will ever help them out.

01:03:09.160 And it filters through then the media because then you have the follow-up headlines.

01:03:13.960 And I read a couple of them.

01:03:15.760 It's always fun to read the stories, like telling the story of what you did and comparing it to what actually happened.

01:03:21.380 So I'm reading some of these stories saying, Matt Walsh had a meltdown over Black Mermaids, a meltdown.

01:03:27.220 I talked about it for two minutes and I heard a chair through a window.

01:03:30.040 When have I ever had a meltdown about anything, first of all?

01:03:31.800 I have no emotion.

01:03:32.380 Have you been sincere?

01:03:33.860 Let's just say for a second you were making an actual point about actual mermaids that you actually believe in, okay?

01:03:39.180 Which many blue checks accused you of.

01:03:41.380 And which Michael believes in.

01:03:42.540 He told us just before the show started.

01:03:43.700 So listen, all I'm saying is, all I'm saying, Christopher Columbus on his maiden voyage saw three mermaids.

01:03:50.680 John Cook saw mermaids.

01:03:52.300 There have been eyewitness accounts of mermaids.

01:03:53.020 What race were there is the question.

01:03:54.320 Well, actually, probably black because they were probably manatees.

01:03:57.880 But I'm just putting that aside for a second.

01:04:00.040 All I want to point out is, believing in mermaids is way more reasonable than a lot of the stuff the Libs believe in, including transgenderism and the idea that the COVID vaccines prevent...

01:04:11.280 Can I say one thing about Disney and then we can get to your Game of Thrones thing?

01:04:14.040 Yes.

01:04:14.380 There is something fascinating about what Disney's new strategy is for marketing.

01:04:17.660 Yep.

01:04:17.800 Because what they have decided to do, and they're doing this in all of the remakes of their animated films, is they're taking IP that you know and identify from when you were a child.

01:04:24.120 Yep.

01:04:24.280 And they've decided that they are just going to troll the audience for headlines.

01:04:28.220 And then the idea is you're not racist if you paused for a second.

01:04:31.840 If you saw the Little Mermaid trailer and you're like, wait, that doesn't look like Ariel from the animated movie.

01:04:35.140 That looks very different.

01:04:35.840 If you say that, that much, like, because you're a racist, you're not colorblind, are you?

01:04:40.360 Yeah.

01:04:40.520 Right?

01:04:40.680 They make a big deal out of casting somebody who does not look like...

01:04:43.120 Listen, that was maybe the most popular movie in America in 1989 to 1999.

01:04:48.120 Between that and Beauty and the Beast, these were like the two most popular movies of everybody's childhood.

01:04:53.920 The actresses in these movies, you would think, would look like the intellectual property in the movies.

01:04:58.800 And then they changed it.

01:04:59.900 And so the idea is that if you notice that, you're like, oh, that's kind of strange.

01:05:03.020 And you're not even like, I'm against it, or I hate it, you're just like, that doesn't look like what the movie looked like.

01:05:06.700 Like, it would be weird if Pocahontas was played by Elizabeth Warren.

01:05:08.420 It would be objectively weird, right?

01:05:10.040 And it's true.

01:05:10.540 They do that because it's like what you always say.

01:05:12.200 They want you to react, and then when you react, they call you a racist.

01:05:14.500 Why are you noticing?

01:05:15.680 Why are you noticing?

01:05:16.260 Because it's weird.

01:05:17.700 Even if you don't react, because before the whole translucent mermaid debacle, prior to that, actually, nobody was actually talking about the race of the mermaid.

01:05:26.320 The Daily Beast, a day before, they had an article saying that race...

01:05:30.400 I forget the exact phrase, but racists were...

01:05:32.500 The racism, the racist backlash against the little mermaid is out of control, they said in the headline.

01:05:37.060 And then I...

01:05:37.640 Because I read the article...

01:05:39.060 How dare you?

01:05:39.400 And I thought, okay, they're going to pull a few tweets of people complaining about the black mermaid.

01:05:43.620 Nothing.

01:05:43.980 They had zero examples of anyone even mentioning the race.

01:05:47.340 Instead, what they cited were tweets of people complaining that the underwater scenes didn't look realistic enough.

01:05:52.380 The CGI wasn't very good.

01:05:53.760 And so, as the Daily Beast writer just editorializes and says, well, they're complaining about the CGI, but really, they're racist.

01:05:59.380 What I want to know is, why doesn't she have a seashell bra?

01:06:02.500 It's totally inappropriate.

01:06:03.880 Yes.

01:06:04.720 Okay.

01:06:05.360 So, the porn in Game of Thrones.

01:06:07.240 That's what I actually want to talk about.

01:06:09.620 Hollywood...

01:06:10.340 Have you guys noticed, having seen all the episodes now, in the first episode and in the third episode, lots of nudity?

01:06:16.180 I mean, that third or fourth episode, it's about as much nudity...

01:06:19.000 Fourth episode is like 20 minutes of nudity.

01:06:20.460 About as much nudity as you've ever seen in a show.

01:06:22.580 Yes, I gotta...

01:06:23.220 In the episode, both of the main female characters also have a sex scene.

01:06:28.440 Right.

01:06:29.740 Neither one of them...

01:06:30.960 Yes, I noticed that.

01:06:31.540 Neither one of them is exposed.

01:06:33.020 Yep.

01:06:33.760 Neither...

01:06:34.200 They're naked but obscured.

01:06:35.840 They're not...

01:06:36.540 So, Hollywood has determined, in the Time's Up Me Too era, that they will no...

01:06:42.600 So, all the nudity is essentially non-speaking background actors.

01:06:46.200 Yeah.

01:06:46.820 Hollywood has decided, in the Me Too, post-Me Too era, that they will no longer exploit actresses, except the ones that make $200 a day.

01:06:55.340 Except the ones that don't have the power to stop them.

01:06:56.820 It's unbelievable.

01:06:58.640 Wow.

01:06:59.160 They are actively only exploiting the actresses who have no power.

01:07:03.980 Yeah, and I have to say, as someone who loves a good nude scene, it did occur to me after a while that really, a woman should not have to take off her shirt to be an actress.

01:07:12.020 You really should not.

01:07:13.300 That shouldn't be a requirement.

01:07:15.260 You know?

01:07:15.700 Have you seen that video?

01:07:16.940 It was a very funny YouTube video of a woman, and she's calling her parents.

01:07:19.700 And she says, Mom, you know, I just got cast in this movie, and I'm going to be naked, and I'm going to be having sex with two dudes on screen.

01:07:26.340 The mother's horrified.

01:07:27.080 And it's on HBO, and Mom's like, congratulations!

01:07:30.220 Send you champagne!

01:07:31.420 You know what was about this, though?

01:07:33.060 Bye-bye, Birdie.

01:07:34.020 Have you ever gone back and watched the real Bye-bye, Birdie?

01:07:36.380 It's all about the corruption of America by show business.

01:07:39.780 It's actually got a very serious point.

01:07:41.400 This whole thing about, we're going to be on Ed Sullivan, so I don't care if they use my daughter as a sex object, because we're going to be on Ed Sullivan.

01:07:48.800 It's kind of prophetic.

01:07:51.080 Well, I will say that women do objectify themselves, and this has kind of been something that I've been being the drum about.

01:07:55.860 And obviously, we notably got into the discussion about our culture's desensitization to porn.

01:08:00.880 Like, my husband does not have social media.

01:08:03.660 He's not on Instagram.

01:08:04.680 He's not on even Twitter.

01:08:06.900 But he says, everything is porn.

01:08:08.180 We just don't realize it.

01:08:09.180 So when you open Instagram, it's just girls with their butts in your faces, their boobs in your faces, and it's these same women that will cry out and use the hashtag MeToo in Time's Up.

01:08:16.840 And it's like, you want men to treat you with more respect than you treat yourselves.

01:08:20.300 And I talked a little bit about on my show today, it's five days a week.

01:08:22.680 Can't sell it, it's five days a week.

01:08:23.800 The other way, a plus.

01:08:24.960 But you're seeing more and more of that, where people somehow separate themselves, like their virtual character.

01:08:30.600 It's almost like a game, like it's like an avatar.

01:08:32.140 They're like, oh, well, it's totally fine that I'm online and I have my boobs out and my breasts out, but I really can't stand to see that men are objectifying women in society.

01:08:39.600 We've lost respect for ourselves, and yet we think that we can then demand respect in other fields and in other categories.

01:08:45.720 I don't think it really works like that.

01:08:46.900 You know what, I was just going back through, and I was turned on to this by Edmund Smirk, one of my favorite pseudonymous Twitter accounts.

01:08:52.860 There was a clip of Catherine McKinnon, a radical feminist from 1993, and she's arguing with conservatives, and she's saying, you guys are too weak on porn.

01:09:01.500 And she says, you know, if you were sitting in a room and you heard a lady get knocked around the walls in the other room, you would run out your door, you'd knock down, you might call the police.

01:09:09.640 But because you're seeing it on a screen or you're reading it in a newspaper, or not a newspaper, in a magazine, you think it's totally fine.

01:09:16.740 And it's this separation because it seems disembodied because we're living in this virtual world.

01:09:20.880 That's right, the virtual world.

01:09:21.940 But the things you do in the virtual world have moral qualities as well.

01:09:26.040 You are still doing them, even if you're doing them in the quiet of your room with the blinds down.

01:09:30.580 One of the big arguments against feminism from the left when it started out, guys like Norman Mailer were saying they're going to bring back the Victorian, ultimately going to bring back the Victorian era.

01:09:40.420 I remember even as a kid thinking, would that be bad, really?

01:09:43.500 Is that really a bad thing?

01:09:44.680 Yeah.

01:09:44.920 No, because, of course, you're absolutely right about this.

01:09:47.700 One of the things, one of the reasons the culture is in such a slump is because no one can define what a good man is.

01:09:52.780 And it's almost impossible to define what a good man is if you can't define what a good woman is.

01:09:56.740 And if you define what a good woman is, you're violated.

01:09:58.640 Or what a woman is at all.

01:10:01.380 But certainly what a good one is, and if you define what a good woman is, you have violated a very, very central tenet of the law.

01:10:08.040 I noticed that on Daily Wire when we did the live at the Ryman Center, a lot of the comments were, they really wanted us to kind of expand on the marriage discussion and what makes for a good marriage.

01:10:16.940 And in going back to this idea of, like, what a good woman is, I was covering today, and it's rather innocuous, but Emma Rocha Joukowsky is getting divorced, right?

01:10:24.640 And she's sort of gloriously leaked to the press that it's because her husband has cheated on her, right?

01:10:30.120 You know, Emily, is it Emily?

01:10:32.580 Rocha Joukowsky.

01:10:33.740 You know, she's naked all the time.

01:10:35.460 I mean, for bizarre things.

01:10:36.360 She's like, I'm protesting Brett Kavanaugh.

01:10:37.840 My top's off.

01:10:38.500 Why?

01:10:38.860 Nobody knows, right?

01:10:39.560 Nobody knows.

01:10:40.020 But we've seen her naked a million times.

01:10:41.220 One of my favorite actresses.

01:10:42.200 Since she appeared on the scene in Blurred Lines, Robin Fick's video, which was just full pornography.

01:10:48.540 And it's amazing to me that she, you know, calls him a dog or somebody anonymous has said he's a complete dog and he cheated on her and she moved out.

01:10:55.780 And I thought to myself, have you not been cheating on him?

01:10:58.740 Is your virtual character somehow different?

01:11:01.400 You are quite literally, would you do this in the real world, right?

01:11:04.100 You're online.

01:11:04.760 You've got your boobs out.

01:11:05.660 You've got your butt out.

01:11:06.440 Now, would you in the real world sit in a room full of men and put your boobs out and put your butt out?

01:11:10.900 But there seems to be this mental detachment for women where they go, I know that I can be this tremendous act of infidelity in the universe of being online, on Instagram and on Facebook is OK.

01:11:20.360 It's not.

01:11:21.460 You cheated on him and he cheated on you.

01:11:22.880 I think once you sat nude on Ben Affleck's lap, I think you've cheated on your husband.

01:11:28.160 It is fairly incredible how self-centered a society we've become when the entire pornography industry, which, of course, is based on the male sex drive.

01:11:35.060 The idea is that women will participate in this and then they will be offended that the male sex drive exists at the same time.

01:11:41.800 So the idea is that just as when it comes to transgenderism, a person must be validated by you, right?

01:11:48.620 My vision of myself must be validated by you.

01:11:50.680 Now, women will pose nude.

01:11:52.960 And if a man objectifies the nude woman, which is what men have done throughout human history when they see a nude woman, actually, which was originally the purpose of nudity.

01:12:02.240 When that happens, then women get very offended.

01:12:06.220 The male sex drive?

01:12:07.260 No, you're supposed to see me as I see me, liberated and free.

01:12:10.500 It's like, well, no, you're making money off the fact that the male sex drive exists, but then you're objecting to it existing because you wish that it existed in the way that you see the male sex drive, which is utterly self-centered.

01:12:20.740 It's not seeing yourself outside yourself at all.

01:12:22.500 You're not looking at who's the actual client, who's the paying customer on the other end.

01:12:26.980 It's just I see my own freedom when I bear my breasts on TV, but if a man objectifies me and he sees me only as a sex drive, then I'm very upset about this.

01:12:36.280 There is this, I mean, we were talking about this before, but there is this big strain of reaction, even on the left, of women saying, you know, I'm kind of miserable in this world.

01:12:44.380 I'm kind of miserable treating myself and having other people treat me like this.

01:12:47.700 And guys, you know, guys want to do things to me that I don't want them to do.

01:12:50.400 And people tell me, well, now I'm not being sex positive.

01:12:53.220 I mean, there is this kind of, you know, it is, there's this terrible headline I keep saying that in spite of feminism, women are miserable.

01:13:01.680 Of course.

01:13:02.640 What could be more enslaving than thinking that you have to take your clothes off to be heard?

01:13:09.240 Like you could just comment on Brett Kavanaugh, but instead you have to take your top off because no one takes you seriously.

01:13:14.000 And you know that you don't take yourself seriously.

01:13:15.620 It's all the joke. It is all the joke from arrested development.

01:13:21.300 My eyes are up here, Michael. Right.

01:13:23.160 You've got the gal who is so obviously putting her breasts in, in Michael's face.

01:13:27.200 And then he doesn't look, but she wants him to look so bad.

01:13:31.220 She repudiates him anyway. My eyes are up here. That's the whole thing.

01:13:34.020 There's a great video that was going around of this woman.

01:13:37.080 She's a conservative and she was, she's wearing a 1950s housewife outfit.

01:13:40.800 And then she's also wearing like the 2022 blue haired MSNBC glasses outfit.

01:13:45.620 And she's talking. It's supposed to be a conversation across time.

01:13:48.040 And the 50s housewife is like, so how's the future? Are you, are you doing well?

01:13:51.320 And she's like, yeah, everything's amazing over here.

01:13:54.060 The 50s housewife, so do you have any kids?

01:13:55.600 She's like, no, I have no kids, but I have three cats.

01:13:57.680 She's like, but you have an amazing boyfriend.

01:13:58.740 She's like, no, I have no boyfriend, but I can have sex with whoever I want.

01:14:01.540 She's like, that sounds terrible. Are you happy?

01:14:03.660 She's like, well, I don't have kids.

01:14:04.940 I could take a magic pill that gets rid of the kids or I could just abort the kids.

01:14:07.460 And she's like, well, yeah, but, but is this, in the end, is this making you feel more happy?

01:14:11.080 She's like, well, I do have a pill that makes me happy.

01:14:14.040 It's a sad, satirical stab at the state of things today.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 21, 2022

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