The Matt Walsh Show - June 28, 2023


Daily Wire Backstage: Russian Coups, Hunter Pleas … Ben and Nicki Minaj Tweet.


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 12 minutes

Words per Minute

226.13654

Word Count

16,420

Sentence Count

1,414

Misogynist Sentences

34

Hate Speech Sentences

46


Summary

Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, and yours truly are joined by none other than the Daily Wire's own Ben Shapiro to talk about how to get a job at Daily Wire if you don't have a job, and why you should be fired if you're a leftist.


Transcript

00:00:00.140 Hey everybody, this is Matt Walsh. Drop everything you're doing and check out the latest episode of Daily Wire backstage.
00:00:05.040 You're going to hear Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, and yours truly talking about all the important issues affecting you and your family.
00:00:10.500 You don't want to miss it, unless you're a leftist, in which case, you're cancelled.
00:00:30.000 Welcome to Daily Wire backstage, brought to you by ExpressVPN.
00:00:39.540 I am not Jeremy Boring, I am Michael Knowles.
00:00:42.840 Jeremy was otherwise occupied this evening in all the amazing and multiplied projects that we're doing right now.
00:00:49.780 I am joined tonight, I am joined by nobody.
00:00:54.840 Nobody else has made it to the set, so it's me.
00:00:59.120 And we, oh hey, alright, there we go, joined by Ben Shapiro.
00:01:03.140 Thank you, sir, how are you?
00:01:06.160 Good to see you.
00:01:08.640 Yeah, so I asked someone else to be here tonight, actually.
00:01:12.880 There's a conversation I've been waiting for a long time to have with you, but every time I want to have this conversation.
00:01:16.580 About like 2024 or?
00:01:18.460 Yeah, no, I'm waiting for like almost 10 years.
00:01:21.920 Oh.
00:01:22.460 To be frank, to have this conversation, but every time I start to have this conversation, Jeremy walks in and just kills it dead.
00:01:27.680 Is he coming?
00:01:28.120 Is he?
00:01:28.580 No, no, he's not.
00:01:30.420 Actually, I was going to have Chris from HR step in.
00:01:33.820 Oh, I don't know if I know Chris.
00:01:35.420 For a second, well.
00:01:36.240 Does he have thoughts on like, he has thoughts on like Russia?
00:01:39.540 Yeah, Chris, yeah, I appreciate it.
00:01:41.680 Michael, great to see you.
00:01:42.740 How you doing?
00:01:43.320 Hey, yeah.
00:01:43.820 Great.
00:01:44.240 So, yeah, it's mostly to prevent me from creating liability for the company that I asked Chris to be here.
00:01:50.060 So like, there are certain things I'm not allowed to say, like that you should die in a car fire, apparently.
00:01:54.980 Like, I was told by HR that I'm not allowed to say that.
00:01:56.860 Yeah.
00:01:57.140 But anyway, I felt like now was like a great opportunity for a job performance review.
00:02:04.060 Oh, good.
00:02:04.560 We should have been having these annually.
00:02:06.060 Yeah, I agree.
00:02:07.180 Totally.
00:02:07.620 Yeah.
00:02:07.660 Again, Jeremy kept stepping in and not allowing that to happen.
00:02:10.160 So now we're going to do that, actually.
00:02:12.380 Because he's not here.
00:02:13.520 So let's talk about that.
00:02:14.380 You want to talk about like?
00:02:15.480 So we're going to go all the way back to like 2015, 2016, right?
00:02:18.660 My best-selling blank book.
00:02:21.380 We'll get to that.
00:02:22.260 So when you started the company, you were originally hired with some job descriptions and duties,
00:02:27.720 including, for example, being in charge of social media.
00:02:30.240 Oh, yeah.
00:02:30.680 And you proceeded to never post anything on social media, but you did take a lot of audition
00:02:36.720 calls in the office.
00:02:38.820 You didn't get any movies.
00:02:39.320 And sometimes out of the office.
00:02:40.520 That's right.
00:02:40.880 You didn't get any movies out of them, by the way.
00:02:42.720 But you were an unemployable person, so we apparently just kept paying you.
00:02:46.960 Yeah.
00:02:47.220 No, but don't forget, there was a span of like three or four weeks when I didn't show
00:02:51.720 up to the office.
00:02:52.320 Because I was shooting.
00:02:53.260 I was filming a project right before that election, remember?
00:02:56.020 And never really saw the light of day, did it?
00:02:57.840 Yeah.
00:02:58.740 You didn't watch the movie?
00:03:02.960 Did it?
00:03:03.880 Was there a movie?
00:03:05.000 Yeah.
00:03:05.380 Not for Daily Wire.
00:03:06.100 It didn't make any money for Daily Wire.
00:03:07.440 Yeah.
00:03:07.780 Or ever.
00:03:08.760 Yeah.
00:03:09.120 In any case.
00:03:10.800 So, you know, at that point, we probably should have called HRM.
00:03:13.560 But again, Jeremy kept stepping in, you know, and telling me I couldn't have this conversation.
00:03:17.840 But he's not here tonight.
00:03:18.700 So then we decided, by we, I mean Jeremy, decided to give you a podcast.
00:03:23.600 I guess because I actually was looking up your credentials for the show.
00:03:27.480 And you went to Yale.
00:03:28.660 Uh-huh.
00:03:29.280 And those were your credentials.
00:03:32.960 There was nothing else.
00:03:34.340 I could not find any other productive thing that you had done in your entire life.
00:03:37.720 But as I mentioned, I was number one national bestselling author.
00:03:40.300 Yeah, then you, then as I recall, you somehow scammed me into giving a blurb to a blank book.
00:03:46.340 And I did that.
00:03:47.860 And then you proceeded to not only make several hundred thousand dollars off of that blank book.
00:03:51.800 Yeah.
00:03:52.200 I then proceeded to get you a book contract for that same exact blank book that had already sold several hundred thousand copies.
00:03:57.900 Again, because my blurb was on it.
00:03:59.420 And at that point, I wanted to have this conversation.
00:04:01.680 Uh-huh.
00:04:02.140 As HR can attest, it's in the file.
00:04:04.540 And still, Jeremy stepped in and stopped it.
00:04:06.740 And so, over the course of the last eight to ten years, I would say that you've probably cost the company a couple million dollars, maybe three.
00:04:14.760 Right.
00:04:15.040 And the return...
00:04:15.860 That's all?
00:04:16.520 The return on investment has been, shall we say, disappointing.
00:04:21.200 Uh-huh.
00:04:21.580 And between that and the fact that you, we've had complaints, many complaints, almost too many to count, the file cabinet is breaking, about you walking around shirtless in the office.
00:04:32.940 Yeah, you're welcome, by the way.
00:04:35.300 We have, like, actual dressing rooms where, you know, where you could put a shirt on and you wouldn't have to...
00:04:39.060 So, tonight is the night I have been waiting for nearly all of my professional life.
00:04:45.160 And so, Chris, do you have the paperwork with you, I believe?
00:04:49.500 I do.
00:04:49.880 It's really less of a performance review and more of an exit interview.
00:04:55.180 What was it like working here, Michael?
00:04:56.760 And what do you see as the biggest problems with the company?
00:04:59.960 So, I guess the only problem that I would see right now is if I leave the show, then you're the only guy doing the show, right?
00:05:12.100 Um, how long, guys, how long is this show?
00:05:17.220 90 minutes.
00:05:20.140 Um, do we have any advertisers?
00:05:22.520 You.
00:05:24.440 They're paying us money?
00:05:25.860 Probably a lot.
00:05:27.280 Like, so there's money?
00:05:28.220 So, I lose money if Michael, for the first time ever, Michael being fired would lose me money, is what you're saying right now.
00:05:36.640 Chris, can we do this a little later?
00:05:38.180 I'll come back in two hours.
00:05:39.300 I appreciate that.
00:05:39.760 Two hours.
00:05:40.120 Thanks, guys.
00:05:40.960 Listen, man, I'll take what I can get.
00:05:42.480 You know, in the long run, we're all dead.
00:05:45.260 Thanks.
00:05:45.680 Thanks for stopping by, guys.
00:05:46.500 I appreciate it.
00:05:47.000 I'll see you in a little bit.
00:05:48.900 Well, so, uh.
00:05:50.060 So, how are you?
00:05:51.940 I'm good.
00:05:52.580 I'm good.
00:05:55.140 I'm good.
00:05:55.720 Anything to talk about?
00:05:56.780 Uh, well, yeah.
00:05:57.760 No, I actually, I did, I did, yeah.
00:05:59.720 Sorry, my mind kind of, I had a few different thoughts there.
00:06:03.840 So, the Wagner group, you know those guys.
00:06:05.340 I was thinking about, you know, the coup d'etat.
00:06:08.280 Uh, actually, I do want to get to the Wagner group, but, but I legitimately, so, we should
00:06:13.140 say for some people, the reason Jeremy wasn't here to protect my employment is because he's
00:06:16.720 working on a hundred different projects right now.
00:06:18.880 We've got, Mr. Walsh is out.
00:06:21.140 He might be on his way.
00:06:22.740 He might not be on his way.
00:06:23.300 He's still alive.
00:06:23.660 Drew is alive.
00:06:24.160 I did have to ask about that.
00:06:25.120 I'm glad to know that.
00:06:26.840 Yeah, no, I was told that, I was told that Drew is actually at some sort of event starring
00:06:30.960 Drew, and my initial response was that it was a funeral.
00:06:34.360 It was a starring role.
00:06:35.560 Right, I figured who's in the coffin, but apparently that's not the case.
00:06:37.900 But everyone, seriously, everyone is doing all these different things right now, and
00:06:41.040 so we can't all meet up to talk about the most important story, which is something
00:06:46.800 about Hunter Biden with drugs and like a payoff and like a, I don't know, what happened?
00:06:50.880 That's true.
00:06:51.640 That dude loves hookers and Coke and Parmesan cheese and not paying his taxes and paying
00:06:57.060 off his father, apparently.
00:06:58.080 But the thing, so they went after him.
00:07:00.040 Right.
00:07:00.380 They go after Hunter and they say, okay, we've got all this information.
00:07:03.200 We have hundreds of hours of videos of you committing all sorts of crimes all over the
00:07:07.240 world, and so as a result of that, we're going to hit you with two misdemeanor tax crimes
00:07:11.800 and sort of a gun charge.
00:07:14.200 And a diversion.
00:07:14.940 And a diversion for the gun charge.
00:07:16.360 I like that it's called a diversion.
00:07:17.860 First of all, it's called a diversion, which sounds delightful.
00:07:20.240 I mean, I would like just in my normal life to have a diversion.
00:07:22.520 So yes, Hunter Biden was, we have him on tape, like cavorting with prostitutes, and paying
00:07:28.340 them to cross state lines to engage in said prostitution.
00:07:31.220 Apparently he was paying a secretary on the West Coast, and as we all know, secretary on
00:07:34.800 the West Coast means a whore.
00:07:36.320 So he was paying a prostitute.
00:07:38.560 You're going to go after me from my shirtless changing room.
00:07:41.080 We're going to get hit, Michael, at any point where you're a secretary on the West Coast.
00:07:43.600 In any case, yeah, so apparently the whistleblower has basically, the whistleblowers have a couple
00:07:50.680 of things to say.
00:07:51.480 Thing number one is that they are, they're saying that the attorney general basically
00:07:56.100 stepped in and stopped the prosecutor in this case from charging in a couple of different
00:08:01.500 jurisdictions.
00:08:02.580 And there's pretty good support for that.
00:08:04.060 Apparently there was a meeting October 7th, 2022, in which this particular prosecutor was
00:08:08.040 told by, was told by Merrick Garland that he was not allowed to prosecute whatever he
00:08:12.200 wanted.
00:08:12.520 And he then told all of his lower downs and one of those lower downs, a guy named Shapley
00:08:15.780 who works for the IRS, that, that he was not able to prosecute whatever he wanted.
00:08:20.100 So it looks like a cover up by the Biden DOJ, which would not be surprising in any way.
00:08:23.440 Of course.
00:08:24.100 That was problem number one.
00:08:25.020 And then there is that text message, which is insane.
00:08:27.800 They're right.
00:08:28.080 This is that for those who have not been watching, there's a text message.
00:08:30.440 It's a WhatsApp message.
00:08:31.340 He says, I'm sitting next to my father.
00:08:33.380 He's writing, he's calling.
00:08:34.120 I'm doing the crime.
00:08:34.980 I'm doing the crime, member of the Chinese Communist Party.
00:08:37.980 Send me the money.
00:08:39.260 I am, just in case you missed it, I'm sitting next to my father.
00:08:41.820 So I have a question.
00:08:42.660 Why is everyone in politics absolutely stupid?
00:08:45.140 Were they all dropped on their heads as babies?
00:08:46.580 Like, they're accused of crimes and then there are actual tapes and texts of them doing the
00:08:49.800 crime.
00:08:50.480 Like, they're violating the first rule of doing crime, which is don't get caught doing
00:08:53.940 crime.
00:08:54.340 But he's going to get away with it.
00:08:55.340 Because the only, look, the hookers and the drugs and the whatever, it's all.
00:08:58.940 I mean, first of all, it sounds like an amazing Saturday night.
00:09:00.540 But beyond that.
00:09:01.160 Yeah, the guy knows how to have a party.
00:09:02.860 But the only crime I actually care about, the only crime that really matters to the
00:09:07.040 public interest as a matter of national corruption is the shakedown selling American influence
00:09:12.220 to the highest bidder all around the world.
00:09:14.900 It looks like you got the Bidens dead to rights.
00:09:17.060 It looks like it implicates Joe.
00:09:18.600 And nothing.
00:09:20.160 Nothing.
00:09:20.900 No one will even ask the questions.
00:09:22.360 So in the media, they started to ask questions of the White House press secretary, the world's
00:09:25.840 most talented White House press secretary and historic White House press secretary, who
00:09:29.560 is historic because she's a black lesbian.
00:09:31.400 And she is and she said that she's historic, by the way.
00:09:34.080 And they asked her multiple times about this.
00:09:35.820 She's like, I'm not going to comment on that.
00:09:37.640 So you'll come on literally everything else.
00:09:39.020 But this is the one thing where he won't comment on it.
00:09:40.840 I mean, Joe is lying.
00:09:41.640 Right.
00:09:41.800 So first, I liked the lawyerly sort of massaging of the response.
00:09:45.940 So it went from the original the original statement by by Hunter Biden's team and Joe Biden's
00:09:51.060 team was Joe does not know anything about Hunter's businesses, which was always implausible.
00:09:55.200 He was writing on Air Force two to China to pick up business.
00:09:57.740 And also, Joe and Hunter were in regular contact.
00:10:00.440 It's not like they're estranged.
00:10:01.360 I mean, they were talking the whole time.
00:10:03.020 And and then it shifted to the president was not in business with Hunter.
00:10:07.140 That is very lawyerly language.
00:10:08.680 Yeah.
00:10:09.200 I mean, technically, I'm not sure that you and I are personally in business.
00:10:12.500 Right.
00:10:12.620 Like I have I own a part of the company that employs you, but I'm not sure that you and
00:10:15.780 I are technically in business.
00:10:16.820 I've not signed a contract with you at any point.
00:10:19.220 I never gave you a cut of the Chi-Com money that I've been getting from overseas yet.
00:10:23.260 Unless you I don't know.
00:10:25.200 I'm not supposed to say that on camera.
00:10:26.680 Can we get Chris back in here?
00:10:27.700 Can we hold on?
00:10:28.980 Yeah.
00:10:29.300 But no, of course, they use very, very specific language here.
00:10:32.920 And, you know, I don't know if I were to commit a heinous crime, like a financial crime
00:10:37.720 with the Chinese communists or something like that.
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00:11:40.220 You know, one of these secrets that we've been finding out, these secrets allegedly,
00:11:43.440 and you're hearing all these congressmen and senators talk about it, is that they think
00:11:46.680 that they believe in aliens and UFOs.
00:11:48.380 And I'm so happy that Matt is not here right now because I don't want to hear his stupid
00:11:52.020 nonsense about how the aliens and the UFOs are going to come down from outer space and kill
00:11:56.680 us all.
00:11:57.020 So we can have an adult conversation about this this evening.
00:11:59.520 We agree on this.
00:11:59.980 It's going to be a real short conversation.
00:12:01.120 Thank goodness.
00:12:01.740 I do not.
00:12:02.280 I'm sick of it.
00:12:02.780 I do not care about it.
00:12:03.420 I want to take advantage of every second that I have of Matt Walsh not being in this
00:12:07.280 room because he keeps peddling it.
00:12:08.640 Rubio was talking about this today.
00:12:09.800 Did you see it?
00:12:10.800 Really?
00:12:11.260 Yes.
00:12:11.820 Rubio was.
00:12:12.460 He said, oh, I don't know.
00:12:14.040 So what was Rubio's take on it?
00:12:16.660 Rubio said, I've heard from senior people in the government who I respect, who are admirable,
00:12:21.200 who say that they can't really explain this and it's technology that's beyond our
00:12:25.180 capabilities.
00:12:25.340 Oh, I mean, but between that and him like kind of crapping on capitalism recently, I'm
00:12:31.320 having some, I'm having some, some, I like Marco.
00:12:34.140 Some, he's a, he's a very nice man and I, and he's a good center and he needs to stop
00:12:37.560 that.
00:12:38.120 Stop with UFOs guys.
00:12:39.460 Find something better to do.
00:12:40.240 It's totally fake.
00:12:41.060 It's demons.
00:12:41.680 By the way.
00:12:42.960 You and your demons.
00:12:43.780 It's demons.
00:12:44.520 Stop with your demonology.
00:12:45.560 You don't think it's demons?
00:12:46.320 I don't believe in demons.
00:12:47.520 Really?
00:12:48.280 Do Jews not believe in demons?
00:12:49.480 Ah, it's, it's a controversial proposition.
00:12:51.000 It depends on your definition of demon.
00:12:52.560 Like it's, it depends on your definition of Jew.
00:12:54.140 Wait a second, hold on.
00:12:55.040 That too.
00:12:55.340 No, it's like, if you're talking in sort of the like technical, there are spirits that
00:13:01.000 wander the earth doing evil to people, demon way.
00:13:04.020 Yeah.
00:13:04.380 I, I, no.
00:13:06.220 Hmm.
00:13:06.700 No.
00:13:07.240 Like, like.
00:13:12.240 Hey.
00:13:14.340 Anyway, we were talking, we were just talking about Hunter Biden.
00:13:16.440 What are you doing right now?
00:13:17.060 No, we were just.
00:13:17.600 I'm going to walk in.
00:13:18.120 I got no context.
00:13:19.120 Oh, that's fine.
00:13:19.900 No, we were just talking about Hunter Biden.
00:13:21.000 Um, yeah, we weren't going to talk about aliens or UFOs or anything.
00:13:24.760 Well, I'm not, I haven't been following the news.
00:13:26.240 So that's the only thing I can talk about.
00:13:27.580 Rubio is like half on your side.
00:13:29.860 I hate it.
00:13:30.680 Senator Rubio.
00:13:31.700 Oh, on the, on the.
00:13:32.460 On the UFOs.
00:13:33.320 On the UFO thing?
00:13:33.980 Yeah.
00:13:34.580 Apparently he, he likes UFOs also.
00:13:36.820 Are we going to talk about that right now?
00:13:38.180 No.
00:13:38.780 Anyway, so back to Hunter Biden.
00:13:40.420 Yeah, so back to Hunter.
00:13:41.680 Yeah.
00:13:41.860 Okay.
00:13:42.280 Bottom line is that, uh, Hunter Biden is, Joe is pretty obviously corrupt.
00:13:46.680 No one's going to ask a single question about it.
00:13:48.580 It'll all go away tomorrow.
00:13:50.280 And Joe is so blasƩ about this that he's openly joking about it.
00:13:52.400 There was video of him today being like, I stole, I stole.
00:13:55.460 I was selling state secrets.
00:13:56.220 He literally joked openly about selling state secrets and everybody's just going to move
00:13:59.620 along with this.
00:14:00.440 It'd be great if we had a presidential candidate who could meticulously target the problems
00:14:03.680 that Joe Biden presents.
00:14:05.040 Yeah.
00:14:05.180 That would be, that would be awesome.
00:14:07.020 Hey, so, you know, I know we can't do horse race this early, but should we do?
00:14:12.860 Is your, is your favorite candidate going to be the nominee, Donald John Trump?
00:14:18.300 Is he going to be the nominee?
00:14:19.660 I mean, if I had to give odds, the answer is yes.
00:14:21.760 I mean, I'd give him like 65, 35 odds right now.
00:14:25.200 Trump, Kennedy, 24.
00:14:27.000 Sweet.
00:14:27.820 Wait, you're not baby gang.
00:14:29.320 Are you into, are you into Bobby Jr.?
00:14:32.180 Uh, into him?
00:14:33.700 Yeah.
00:14:33.980 I mean, as a, if I had to choose a Democrat.
00:14:35.480 Like he's a really ripped hot guy, you know?
00:14:37.520 Like, are you?
00:14:37.940 I don't really get, if I had to choose a, if I had a gun to my head and had to choose
00:14:41.120 a Democrat, I would choose him, but that's not saying much.
00:14:43.340 So, but could he, so here's my argument for, for Trump.
00:14:46.240 He's making a good argument for, for testosterone replacement therapy.
00:14:49.120 I'll be honest.
00:14:50.520 Reportedly, allegedly.
00:14:51.860 Dude, he did like eight pushups and then picked up a, and then did like an inclined bench
00:14:56.560 press with 45 pounds on it.
00:14:58.080 Yeah.
00:14:58.680 You don't get to look like that naturally doing 45 pound bench presses and doing eight
00:15:03.840 pushups.
00:15:04.180 I'm just telling you, I work out an hour to an hour and a half a day and I don't look
00:15:06.780 anything like that, man.
00:15:07.800 Yeah, yeah.
00:15:08.240 There's some unnatural things happening.
00:15:10.440 Good shit.
00:15:11.040 So, you know why the Trump Kennedy thing though?
00:15:12.620 Look, I'm not saying I'm advocating for it or anything, but Trump's biggest weakness
00:15:15.720 is on the COVID vax and the way he handled it.
00:15:18.380 Is that his biggest weakness?
00:15:19.460 I think so.
00:15:20.040 Of all the weaknesses, really, is it the COVID?
00:15:22.200 I think, I think certainly with the Republican party.
00:15:24.020 Or is it the possible imprisonment?
00:15:25.620 No, that's not a problem.
00:15:26.560 Because he could be elected from prison.
00:15:28.320 He could be elected and pardon himself and then he's good.
00:15:30.200 First of all, if I'm rooting for drama, I like, that would be an amazing way for season
00:15:33.520 seven of Trump to end.
00:15:34.960 Totally.
00:15:35.280 Right, that he's actually being sworn in, in federal prison and then he just pardons
00:15:39.640 himself.
00:15:40.140 Yeah.
00:15:40.660 You're like, put your hand on the Bible, he pardons himself and like, bring me the pardon
00:15:43.540 documents.
00:15:43.920 Yes.
00:15:44.200 Like, bring them to me.
00:15:45.280 And as our friend Alan Estrid has pointed out, as Jeremy has pointed out, the narrative
00:15:50.020 demands the most wild, crazy, exciting conclusion.
00:15:56.120 And that, that would be that.
00:15:57.960 Matt, you're, you're more pro DeSantis.
00:16:01.180 Yeah.
00:16:01.680 Yeah.
00:16:01.900 I mean, certainly, certainly.
00:16:02.980 Well, when it comes to the primary, I think there are a lot of reasons why I prefer DeSantis
00:16:07.140 over Trump.
00:16:08.540 But when it comes to the primary, I'm kind of a single issue voter, which is, can you
00:16:12.400 win in the general election?
00:16:14.280 Because nothing else matters.
00:16:16.080 So even if I agreed that Trump would be a better executive than DeSantis, which I don't,
00:16:21.140 the bigger issue is I just don't see, I don't see his strategy for winning.
00:16:24.560 And I've asked Trump supporters this for months and it's not, it's not accusatory.
00:16:29.320 I'm, I'm saying, how does he win?
00:16:31.420 What's the plan?
00:16:32.220 How, how does he actually win the White House?
00:16:34.640 Because if you can't win the White House, nothing else matters.
00:16:37.680 Here's how he wins.
00:16:38.260 Look, I'm, I'm fairly pessimistic on the whole, uh, him winning electoral shots for Republicans
00:16:43.620 period.
00:16:43.960 And, and, uh, and for Trump too, but Biden's negatives are, are way higher than they were
00:16:50.200 in, in 2020, uh, countries in a different place.
00:16:53.540 Uh, the base I think is more fired up for Trump.
00:16:56.820 You look at some of those, again, I think the national polls this early are pretty silly,
00:17:00.620 but some of them have Trump up over Biden.
00:17:03.000 A lot of them have Trump up over DeSantis.
00:17:05.260 Now you might say, well, okay, the polls are bogus or it doesn't matter because you're
00:17:08.380 only talking about.
00:17:08.880 Is there a poll that has Trump beating a generic, doing better than a generic Republican over
00:17:13.060 Biden?
00:17:13.480 Yeah.
00:17:13.820 Uh, generic Republican or DeSantis?
00:17:15.920 Who is the number two guy?
00:17:17.480 Generic Republican, first of all.
00:17:18.700 No, I haven't seen that poll.
00:17:19.820 Yeah.
00:17:20.220 I mean, versus DeSantis, one of the things you have taken into account is, is lack of
00:17:23.380 public knowledge for DeSantis as opposed to universal knowledge of Trump.
00:17:26.120 But the bigger issue, as you mentioned, is that basically this election comes down to
00:17:29.340 like five states, right?
00:17:30.260 I mean, it comes down to Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, maybe Arizona, and Georgia.
00:17:33.140 But if you lose either Arizona and Georgia, you lost the election.
00:17:35.240 It's already over.
00:17:35.960 So if it really comes down to three, right?
00:17:38.300 Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Trump is trailing in all three of those states by every
00:17:41.400 poll that I've seen.
00:17:42.360 I don't see him winning any of those.
00:17:44.060 So what is his, how does he win?
00:17:45.580 Well, his, his, his past is-
00:17:47.400 He magics some-
00:17:48.420 Yeah, no, look, I, I think it's very hard.
00:17:50.780 I mean, I think the Democrats rigged the system in 2020.
00:17:53.900 I'm not saying that Hugo Chavez, you know, went in and poked numbers or anything.
00:17:56.700 I'm just saying-
00:17:57.220 You shouldn't because that would create legal liability for us.
00:17:59.380 Yes, yeah, it's true.
00:18:00.300 It turns out it's not true.
00:18:01.760 It'll be Tucker and Michael on Twitter.
00:18:04.920 But, but, and I'm not, I'm not saying it has to be that, but they changed all the rules
00:18:09.780 and they changed the rules in a way that benefited Democrats in the case of Pennsylvania,
00:18:12.900 in a way that violated the state constitution.
00:18:15.660 And it's easy enough to say, well, Republicans just need to ballot harvest.
00:18:20.060 But it's very hard for Republicans to ballot harvest when our voters are all over the country
00:18:23.700 and their voters are all in these machine cities where you can drive around for two
00:18:26.980 hours and get all your ballots.
00:18:27.860 It's not that hard.
00:18:28.620 Ron DeSantis did it in Florida.
00:18:30.540 He, he ballot, well, first of all-
00:18:32.360 Yeah, he ballot harvested the living belief out of the last election cycle.
00:18:35.080 DeSantis also benefited, though, from a million new conservatives moving into the state.
00:18:38.980 So the one that, okay, so I know Governor DeSantis fairly well at this point, since he's the
00:18:43.240 governor of my state.
00:18:44.140 And he is meticulous in this sort of stuff.
00:18:47.800 Like he's the, he's, he's actually, he and Trump are almost polar opposites in terms
00:18:50.720 of personality.
00:18:51.740 Like Trump does not care about policy.
00:18:53.940 DeSantis cares deeply about policy.
00:18:55.460 Yeah.
00:18:55.520 Trump is not a policy wonk.
00:18:56.520 He has instincts.
00:18:57.080 Trump, DeSantis is a policy wonk who really digs into this stuff.
00:19:01.000 And when it comes to being meticulous about how he pursues his political aims, DeSantis
00:19:04.340 is really, really good at that.
00:19:05.440 And so, for example, back in 2018, he writes about this in his memoir.
00:19:09.080 Everybody who was watching that race was like, this is a nail-biter with Gillum.
00:19:12.500 Remember, he ended up winning by like 0.4%.
00:19:14.180 And DeSantis said, and he just told me this himself, he said, we knew within the first hour
00:19:18.880 of the election that they'd won because they, because they could see the numbers breaking
00:19:22.580 and they knew in each individual county, the numbers that they had to hit and they were
00:19:26.300 hitting those numbers.
00:19:27.000 They're like, this election's over.
00:19:28.580 And there's no way that that that's worked.
00:19:30.880 I mean, there was an interview with, with Trump where he was literally asked, I think
00:19:33.760 it was by Seb Gorka about ballot harvesting.
00:19:36.080 And he starts off saying, yeah, we'll do the ballot, we'll do the ballot harvesting.
00:19:39.260 And then at the very end, he's like, we don't even need the ballot harvesting.
00:19:41.420 We're just going to win.
00:19:42.100 And it's like, that's not a strategy.
00:19:44.180 I mean, so far his campaign has consisted largely of just shouting things on Truth Social.
00:19:48.300 And I suppose that's working for him because again, we're very, very early on, but you
00:19:53.820 know, he, he's also avoiding debates.
00:19:55.520 He hasn't really taken a punch yet, but his numbers keep improving.
00:19:59.160 I mean, how do you make sense of that?
00:20:00.580 Because he's the center of the narrative.
00:20:02.040 He's the center of the narrative.
00:20:03.140 And, and the, and if the center of the narrative, here's, here's the reality.
00:20:06.760 No one wants to talk about Biden.
00:20:08.240 Trump is innately interesting to talk about.
00:20:09.960 He's just a way more interesting person than Joe Biden.
00:20:12.060 And by the way, you can tell us, I can tell us from my own data, right?
00:20:14.860 Like if I put Joe Biden in a thumbnail on YouTube.
00:20:17.660 Yes.
00:20:18.960 Ratings death, ratings death.
00:20:20.260 No one wants to talk about Joe Biden.
00:20:21.440 He's incredibly boring.
00:20:23.480 We've, we've, we've actually done him a favor by talking about how he is no longer capable
00:20:27.260 of forming human sentences from his face hole.
00:20:29.180 That's actually a favor to him because it makes him even more boring.
00:20:31.460 And so when he does something that's truly terrible, we're like, well, you mean the,
00:20:33.840 the genial old man who can't speak words from his face hole.
00:20:36.940 And so, but, but Trump is magnetic.
00:20:38.920 He's really interesting to talk about because he has no limits.
00:20:42.220 I mean, he literally, we're making fun of Hunter Biden for, for, you know, saying that
00:20:47.000 he was doing the crimes.
00:20:48.700 Donald Trump is said that he did crimes.
00:20:52.260 I mean, you shouldn't do that.
00:20:53.500 Kind of.
00:20:53.840 No, not, not, not kind of.
00:20:55.140 I don't buy it.
00:20:55.820 Okay.
00:20:55.960 So that two things can be true at once.
00:20:57.080 One, he should not be prosecuted for this because Hillary wasn't.
00:20:59.300 Yeah.
00:20:59.660 Two, he said he did the crimes.
00:21:00.620 I'm sorry.
00:21:01.000 He did.
00:21:01.220 What did he say?
00:21:01.560 So he, they have some audio tape that they're playing.
00:21:03.420 Some audio tape.
00:21:04.380 It's some audio tape.
00:21:05.220 Look, this, this beautiful audio tape.
00:21:06.960 But they, they have it on CNN and it's him saying, look, these are classified documents
00:21:10.540 and I could have declassified them when I was president, but you know, I can't do it
00:21:13.720 now or something.
00:21:14.640 Right?
00:21:15.120 Yes.
00:21:15.500 Yeah.
00:21:15.700 Okay.
00:21:16.040 Which is the crime.
00:21:16.940 Yeah.
00:21:17.320 The literal crime.
00:21:18.100 The crime is you are, you are keeping classified documents that you could not declassify and you
00:21:21.220 did not turn those back into the national archive.
00:21:23.380 But what if, that's the crime.
00:21:24.820 But what, what if he turns to the, uh, I'll call it the, uh, Jordan Walker, uh, project
00:21:29.600 very toss excuse and say, bro, I was literally lying.
00:21:32.360 I did declassify the very fact that the president can declassify on a whim without answering to
00:21:36.640 anybody.
00:21:37.140 Why in the world would he say that to somebody?
00:21:39.820 That's like the worst defense in the entire world.
00:21:41.740 Did you, that's like saying, that's like me telling you I murdered my wife after my wife
00:21:45.360 was dead.
00:21:45.920 And then later I was like, I was lying to you.
00:21:47.220 And I said, I murdered my wife.
00:21:48.140 I actually didn't know just to look cool.
00:21:49.820 I told you I murdered my wife.
00:21:50.880 The reason he would say that is to avoid prosecution for this particular crime.
00:21:53.860 But also you're saying, why did Donald Trump say something outlandish?
00:21:56.800 I mean, we could go back.
00:21:58.000 It's not, but it's not, no, the thing, no, I'm saying that he has no defense to the thing
00:22:01.620 that he said that's outlandish.
00:22:03.160 And then he went on Brett Baier and he was like, there were newspapers I was talking about.
00:22:05.960 And then in the tape, he's like, these are not.
00:22:07.460 Yeah.
00:22:07.880 No, I, look, sorry.
00:22:09.100 I'm obviously.
00:22:09.580 Again, he shouldn't be prosecuted because there's a double standard and Hillary should not,
00:22:12.220 should have been prosecuted.
00:22:13.180 Okay.
00:22:13.460 But here's the thing that I really dislike about the common, the common discourse.
00:22:16.880 Here's the discourse.
00:22:17.360 And what about Bill Clinton when he stole the tapes and shoved them in the sock drawer?
00:22:19.900 That is it.
00:22:20.480 Okay.
00:22:20.580 The sock drawer defense is garbage.
00:22:22.080 Okay.
00:22:22.280 Like, why is it garbage?
00:22:23.180 The reason that it's garbage is because the presidential records act only applies to presidential
00:22:26.140 records, records made by the president of the United States in pursuit of his job.
00:22:29.480 It does not apply to, to classified documents handed to the president from a different agency.
00:22:33.220 These are called agency records.
00:22:34.420 These are defined in law.
00:22:35.580 The Clinton sock drawer defense that Tom Fitton has tried out.
00:22:37.820 I know Tom, really nice guy.
00:22:39.060 He's just wrong.
00:22:39.840 It's not true.
00:22:40.540 So like, again, I'll go back to my original point.
00:22:44.080 Hillary Clinton should have been prosecuted.
00:22:45.700 If Hillary Clinton had been prosecuted in 2016, by the way, then for America, it's kind of
00:22:50.420 happily ever after, right?
00:22:52.280 Really?
00:22:52.780 Because number one, we would have now realized that, oh, people actually get prosecuted for
00:22:56.260 this particular crime.
00:22:57.080 And then presumably Trump wouldn't have gone and committed the crime.
00:22:59.140 Literally in the tape, he says, these are exactly the type of documents that Hillary
00:23:02.600 Clinton sent to Anthony Weiner.
00:23:04.160 He says that in the tape.
00:23:05.420 Like, what are you doing?
00:23:07.100 But you know what would have happened.
00:23:07.820 Here's my question about this.
00:23:08.880 Forget about the prosecution.
00:23:09.740 Forget about him going to jail.
00:23:10.500 Maybe he gets off because he's in Fort Pierce.
00:23:11.940 Fort Pierce, thank God.
00:23:12.720 Very conservative area.
00:23:13.800 Maybe he gets a jury nullification.
00:23:15.060 He did in Jersey, too.
00:23:16.280 Right.
00:23:16.520 I mean, they could bring charges in Jersey.
00:23:18.120 Well, they haven't yet.
00:23:19.240 So they haven't yet.
00:23:19.820 Right.
00:23:19.960 So right now we're just talking about Fort Pierce.
00:23:21.520 So like so let's say that that happens.
00:23:23.280 Fine.
00:23:23.800 I have a question just for Republican voters.
00:23:25.860 He knows he has the world's biggest target on his back.
00:23:28.120 This is the case he has been making since 2015.
00:23:29.800 Right.
00:23:30.180 They're out to get me.
00:23:30.880 They want me.
00:23:31.440 They're out to get me.
00:23:32.400 Yeah.
00:23:32.760 Let's say that you knew that everyone in the world was out to get you.
00:23:36.560 Would you then go commit the world's stupidest crime and then admit on tape to doing
00:23:39.780 the world's stupidest crime?
00:23:40.560 Or would you be uber careful about not doing that?
00:23:42.440 I suppose to not take yourself off the board.
00:23:44.120 Look, I'm not I've said a thousand times I overpay my taxes when Democrats are in office.
00:23:47.580 Of course.
00:23:47.800 OK, because I don't want these people breathing down my neck.
00:23:50.380 I would much rather over.
00:23:51.600 I do when Republicans are in office, too.
00:23:52.820 I'd rather overpay my taxes and never have to deal with the IRS.
00:23:55.740 Yeah.
00:23:56.180 Specifically because he makes it he makes it easy on them.
00:23:58.440 Exactly.
00:23:58.780 Why do you make it easy?
00:23:59.420 That's one of the number one mark against Trump for me, at least when you look at what
00:24:05.180 actually happened when he was in office.
00:24:06.400 Yeah.
00:24:06.780 And it's not it's not the vax.
00:24:08.320 That's a problem, too.
00:24:09.600 But it's the drain the swamp.
00:24:11.000 You know, you go in promising to drain the swamp and it just didn't happen, period.
00:24:15.300 It didn't happen.
00:24:15.920 I mean, infamously, Fauci not only stayed in his position, but was awarded a medal on
00:24:20.440 the way out.
00:24:21.820 And part of the reason he didn't drain the swamp, I think, is that he doesn't really
00:24:24.460 understand the swamp.
00:24:25.620 Is it the thing?
00:24:26.060 You have to understand who these people are that you're up against.
00:24:29.780 Now, it's the same thing on the other end where Trump's enemies don't really understand
00:24:33.020 him either.
00:24:34.020 They're trying to make him out to be Hitler or some kind of fascist dictator.
00:24:36.700 So you got two people going at each other that don't understand each other, but this
00:24:39.700 is Trump's problems.
00:24:40.440 He doesn't understand his enemies.
00:24:42.300 I think DeSantis does understand his enemies much better than Trump, but I would still not
00:24:47.260 to not to take the conversation backwards.
00:24:49.860 But for even though I prefer DeSantis, if I could be convinced that because I think another
00:24:56.080 Biden presidency is a disaster for America, an even bigger disaster than the first presidency
00:25:00.740 was, if I could be convinced that Trump really did have a better chance of beating
00:25:05.040 Biden than DeSantis would, then I would support Trump.
00:25:07.560 I agree with you.
00:25:08.520 I would because we cannot have an 82-year-old Biden taking office in 2024.
00:25:15.040 We don't even know.
00:25:15.920 What does that look like?
00:25:16.700 Do you think there's a dark horse?
00:25:18.120 We're all talking Trump-DeSantis.
00:25:19.840 Do you think there's a dark horse that could emerge?
00:25:21.560 I mean, possibly.
00:25:22.500 If DeSantis really started to collapse in the polls, that could be-
00:25:25.240 Who would be the dark horse?
00:25:26.960 I've heard Glenn Youngkin's name.
00:25:28.640 Brian Kemp.
00:25:29.480 Brian Kemp.
00:25:30.020 Chris Christie.
00:25:31.560 Shut up with Chris Christie.
00:25:32.700 You and Chris Christie.
00:25:33.440 Chris Christie.
00:25:33.920 You and your New Jersey-
00:25:34.680 Is that ironic on your part?
00:25:37.020 You're not saying, is it a bit or am I serious about it?
00:25:38.540 Yeah, is it a bit or you're serious?
00:25:40.500 I'm asking myself that every day.
00:25:42.360 He started out as a little bit-
00:25:43.540 He came out with kids.
00:25:43.960 He's a-
00:25:44.460 No, no, I'm not-
00:25:44.960 I'm not-
00:25:45.900 The round mound or rebound?
00:25:47.340 The guy went from-
00:25:48.380 The guy went from 1% to like 6%.
00:25:49.960 He's at the hut.
00:25:51.240 Okay, come on.
00:25:52.380 That's nuts.
00:25:52.840 That's nuts.
00:25:53.140 The Leaning Tower of Pizza.
00:25:53.880 It's the croissants.
00:25:54.700 It's the croissants that we're waiting for.
00:25:56.520 The guy-
00:25:56.980 The croissants?
00:25:57.500 The guy's running third in New Hampshire.
00:25:59.320 He loves the croissants.
00:26:00.540 That's true.
00:26:03.920 I'm legitimately interested to hear.
00:26:05.460 I'm telling you, I think that probably it's going to be very difficult for any Republican
00:26:09.880 to win, whether it's-
00:26:11.880 Okay, but you have to grade them.
00:26:12.900 You have to grade them.
00:26:13.620 Is it easier for Trump to win or easier for DeSantis to win?
00:26:16.080 I don't know.
00:26:16.540 Don't give me the I don't know.
00:26:17.860 I don't know because-
00:26:18.960 Neither do I.
00:26:19.640 No one knows.
00:26:20.240 We've been like in the ballpark.
00:26:21.000 Here's the problem.
00:26:21.620 Look, I really like Ron DeSantis.
00:26:22.920 I think he's a terrific governor and he's a very strong candidate.
00:26:25.560 The problem for Ron DeSantis is that he's running in the Trump lane and his positions
00:26:30.960 are Trump positions.
00:26:31.880 His entire campaign pitch is, I'm going to do all the stuff that Trump said he was going
00:26:35.480 to do, but was not able to do.
00:26:37.200 That's a valid point.
00:26:38.180 And let's say that that's true.
00:26:40.580 People tend to, when given an option between the original and New Coke, original Coke
00:26:46.820 classic and New Coke, they'll go for the original.
00:26:49.940 They'll go for the OG.
00:26:51.060 And he broke the mold in a way on certain policy positions, especially with trade and immigration
00:26:55.540 and foreign wars.
00:26:56.340 He broke the Republican mold.
00:26:58.080 He's kind of a weirdo candidate.
00:26:59.560 He inspired people to vote who hadn't voted before, even if you might say, well, that's
00:27:02.880 not going to take him over the finish line in 2024.
00:27:05.020 I just think he is.
00:27:07.240 I don't disagree with you.
00:27:08.280 The real question about Trump as a viable candidate inside the Republican Party, because
00:27:12.080 no matter what I say, people are going to vote, how they're going to vote.
00:27:14.000 But the real question I have inside the Republican Party and what dynamic could change would
00:27:19.200 be that Trump, and it's happened a couple of times in the race so far already, and I
00:27:23.280 think it could happen again, is that he actually gets boring again.
00:27:25.680 When he's exciting and he's at the center of the news, then people just immediately resonate
00:27:29.780 to him, mainly in opposition to the left, because they feel like if the left is attacking
00:27:33.920 him, then there must be something good there, which is an understandable if reactionary
00:27:36.860 response.
00:27:37.580 If he gets boring again, then things could get bad for him.
00:27:41.180 So every time you think it's getting boring for him and he starts to drop in the polls,
00:27:44.320 a new exciting thing happens.
00:27:45.540 He gets indicted in Florida or something.
00:27:47.520 So the thing is, I think that that's likely to continue happening.
00:27:50.220 I think that he'll get boring and then he'll get indicted in Georgia for election interference.
00:27:54.480 He'll just keep getting these kind of narcotic boosts, like cocaine hits.
00:28:00.560 Yeah, of course.
00:28:00.880 Oh my gosh, they're attacking Trump again.
00:28:02.700 This is crazy.
00:28:03.220 We need to rush to his defense.
00:28:04.880 Now, the thing that could happen that could hurt him, theoretically, is if you'd get in
00:28:08.080 a debate.
00:28:08.380 But he's actually being a coward about this.
00:28:11.580 Why would he get into a debate when he's 30 points up?
00:28:14.540 Because when you are in an open primary where you are not the incumbent president, you debate
00:28:18.440 the people.
00:28:18.880 But he kind of, the thing that's weird about this race is he...
00:28:21.500 No, but I kind of is the incumbent, right?
00:28:25.060 I mean, that's what's weird about this race, is he's not the incumbent.
00:28:27.460 Obviously, Biden's the president.
00:28:28.900 But we haven't been in the situation where you had a one-term president who runs again
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00:29:34.580 Now, I want a little bit of a hard pivot here.
00:29:36.660 We're talking about, oh, hello, my dear.
00:29:39.020 We're joined by the marvelous Brett Cooper.
00:29:41.400 We're talking about stupid nonsense.
00:29:43.620 Like, who's, you know, are we going to be able to save the republic?
00:29:45.440 Are we going to be able to?
00:29:46.480 Oh, that's not as fun as what I talk about on my show.
00:29:48.380 I want to talk, and I actually want your take on this.
00:29:50.860 Yes.
00:29:51.920 Did you get into a thing with Nicki Minaj?
00:29:54.760 That is a thing that happened in my life.
00:29:56.200 I know nothing about this.
00:29:58.080 I haven't followed, and I always try to update Nicki's social media feeds, you know.
00:30:01.880 I know you're big in that.
00:30:02.700 I'm a big Minaj head.
00:30:04.460 But what happened?
00:30:06.140 What happened with you?
00:30:06.920 No, Michael, it's not a Minaj head.
00:30:09.480 You're a barb.
00:30:10.660 If you are a Nicki Minaj fan, you're a barb.
00:30:12.660 So that's why...
00:30:13.100 Is this in the new Barbie movie?
00:30:13.820 Is that...
00:30:14.180 No, you're just a barb.
00:30:15.240 I actually don't know where it comes from.
00:30:16.680 I think she has a song in the new Barbie movie, right?
00:30:19.240 Actually, yes.
00:30:20.100 Yeah, because a lot of people were commenting under your post saying, oh, can you promote
00:30:23.300 this for the Barbie movie?
00:30:24.740 And people were saying, Ben Shapiro is an undercover barb, which means that you're an undercover
00:30:29.800 Nicki Minaj fan.
00:30:30.640 You know what you call a group of three Nicki Minaj fans?
00:30:35.060 Uh-oh.
00:30:35.420 A mƩnage Ơ trois.
00:30:37.940 Good night, everybody.
00:30:38.860 I hope you enjoy Daily Wire backstage.
00:30:40.560 So, hold on.
00:30:41.180 You're an undercover barb?
00:30:43.680 I don't even know what to say to that accusation.
00:30:47.680 Anyway, this all came about because there is a song, a great emblem of Western civilization,
00:30:54.520 a piece of art so reminiscent of the great Gothic cathedrals of the 12th and 13th centuries.
00:31:00.300 It really just inspires you like a Beethoven symphony.
00:31:03.600 It is called Pound Town, a town in which much pounding goes on.
00:31:08.360 And also, there is a second version of this song.
00:31:12.200 It is called Pound Town 2, The Revenge of Pound Town.
00:31:14.860 I haven't heard it.
00:31:15.400 How does it go?
00:31:16.100 How does it go?
00:31:16.460 Well, first, I have to introduce you to the artist.
00:31:18.520 Her name is Sexy Yee Yee Red.
00:31:20.220 I say it's that because she has two Ys at the end of Sexy for no reason other than apparently
00:31:24.380 no one in the rap industry can spell.
00:31:26.160 And also, I assume, as always, that this was her given name.
00:31:28.920 She came out of her mother, and her mother said, behold, I shall call thee Sexy Yee Yee Red.
00:31:32.660 I think we have the music video.
00:31:34.360 Do we really?
00:31:35.820 Well, I'd like to introduce you all.
00:31:37.520 Oh.
00:31:38.360 Oh, come on.
00:31:42.360 This isn't real.
00:31:43.320 This ain't a real thing.
00:31:47.540 There's a toilet in the background.
00:31:48.980 Why did you bleep this, but not the first thing you said in the song?
00:31:52.400 Why did the bleep come?
00:31:53.340 Selective bleeping.
00:31:54.620 Why did I have to think about the colors of her orifices?
00:31:59.400 So I did a Deconstructing the Culture segment on this song.
00:32:04.160 And as I say, this one is not the one that stars Nicki Minaj.
00:32:07.260 Nicki Minaj, there's a Pound Town 2, The Revenge of Pound.
00:32:11.760 Pound Town 2, more pounding.
00:32:13.080 Electric Boogaloo.
00:32:13.540 Pound Town 2, Electric Boogaloo.
00:32:15.800 And that was it.
00:32:16.300 Pound Town 2, Two Pounds, Two Harder.
00:32:17.860 Well, we just heard it's Pound Town 2.
00:32:18.860 No, I think that was one.
00:32:21.240 No, that was one.
00:32:21.780 That was one.
00:32:22.240 That was one.
00:32:22.480 Okay.
00:32:22.820 So Pound Town 2 has Nicki Minaj in it.
00:32:24.460 She was like, this is such an inspiring song.
00:32:26.320 I must take part in a remix titled Pound Town 2.
00:32:30.300 And so I pointed that out while I was critiquing this masterpiece of Western civilization and the apex of our entire creative output since the dawn of time.
00:32:38.040 And Nicki Minaj got mad at me.
00:32:41.800 And so she then tweeted, and I read to you directly, quote, Roman said, leave his ass out of it, sir.
00:32:50.060 No pun intended.
00:32:51.200 Who's Roman?
00:32:52.320 This is an excellent question.
00:32:53.980 At first I thought perhaps she's speaking of the emperors of old.
00:32:57.480 Perhaps this is a reference to, say, Claudius, Nero, perhaps Augustus.
00:33:02.480 That was my assumption.
00:33:03.460 And it was not, as it turns out.
00:33:06.100 So Roman is apparently, she plays many roles as Nicki Minaj.
00:33:09.500 And one of the personalities she inhabits is apparently called Roman, a homosexual man.
00:33:15.300 I know.
00:33:16.980 And this required me to translate this because I don't speak stupid people.
00:33:20.660 So it said, Roman said, leave his ass out of it, sir.
00:33:23.100 No pun intended.
00:33:24.080 I didn't know that there was a pun that was actually in it.
00:33:26.840 And then I didn't know who Roman was.
00:33:28.920 So it took me like a solid, you know, I can knock out like a solid econ book in like three hours.
00:33:33.280 This one took me at least six hours to figure out what this meant.
00:33:35.580 And then I tweeted back at her because she said that Roman should leave his ass out of it.
00:33:39.940 Not possible, Nicki Minaj, since you apparently have never recorded a song that left your ass out of it.
00:33:45.020 Which is accurate.
00:33:46.500 She literally has not recorded a song ever that left her own ass out of it.
00:33:49.200 So it's not possible for me to leave her ass out of it because her ass was in it.
00:33:51.740 To which she responded in classic Barb fashion, next time I'll be sure to add my D, that is a word for the male appendage, so you can suck it.
00:34:04.520 But suck is spelled S-U-K because as already noted, spelling is not allowed in Rapville, which is directly adjacent to Poundtown, as it turns out.
00:34:12.360 So if ever you choose to take a car trip from Rapville to Poundtown, I found other things out about Poundtown as well in my journey down this particular Vista.
00:34:22.220 Like, for example, Sexy Red, she says there are rules in Poundtown, including that thou shalt not get chlamydia twice, which she has had, apparently.
00:34:32.860 Not just once, but twice.
00:34:34.560 So it wasn't just Poundtown too, it was chlamydia too.
00:34:36.140 Anyway, she says, next time I'll be sure to add my D so you can suck it, love you, and then many emojis.
00:34:40.460 To which I responded, surprise twist, Nicki Minaj was the one with the anaconda all along.
00:34:45.000 Wow, you know more about pop culture than you let on.
00:34:47.640 A little anaconda reference.
00:34:49.240 I do. The anaconda reference was solid.
00:34:50.680 I want to know, is this...
00:34:51.720 I think it impressed her.
00:34:52.740 I don't get it.
00:34:53.560 Okay, so, you've ever heard the Sir Mix-A-Lot classic, My Anaconda?
00:34:58.900 Sure, okay.
00:34:59.900 Right, that's with her. That's Sir Mix-A-Lot and Nicki Minaj.
00:35:03.060 But that came out in the 90s? Didn't that come out in the 90s?
00:35:05.340 No.
00:35:05.660 The remix includes Nicki Minaj.
00:35:07.460 Yeah.
00:35:07.760 Yes.
00:35:07.960 So, there is the original, which is like, and then there's the one in 2000.
00:35:11.100 Was she like four when she was in the song?
00:35:13.300 No, she's like 80 now.
00:35:14.780 Okay.
00:35:15.500 Anyway.
00:35:16.360 How old is she?
00:35:17.220 She's 41.
00:35:18.240 A lady never told me.
00:35:18.800 How do you know all of this?
00:35:21.040 When I dive into a topic, I dive into that topic.
00:35:24.320 What I want to know better was this...
00:35:24.920 But not the actual...
00:35:25.740 Not Poundtown itself.
00:35:27.120 That has weird orifices.
00:35:28.340 I'm sure.
00:35:28.680 Anyway.
00:35:29.020 Is this you two flirting?
00:35:30.460 Is that what this was?
00:35:31.460 Because I know you're ostensibly in a fight here, but it's kind of like a cheeky little hearts
00:35:36.420 and kissy emojis.
00:35:37.480 Well, she's the one doing that.
00:35:38.820 I don't know.
00:35:39.760 I have four children, Michael.
00:35:42.240 I've been married for almost 15 years.
00:35:44.520 No, it turns out that, you know, I'm not tempted by the, I would say the opposite of
00:35:51.700 William Shatner, right?
00:35:52.940 So, the William Shatner was, you know, going where no man has gone before.
00:35:57.260 This is the opposite of William Shatner, going where every man has gone before.
00:36:00.560 Okay.
00:36:01.300 And so, I don't find that to be a tempting proposition.
00:36:04.200 You know, I've never been...
00:36:08.440 A woman who pitches Chlamydia twice, joining in song, joining in joyful, celebrative song
00:36:14.000 with Nicki Minaj to talk about their bodily orifice colors.
00:36:20.460 No, that was not appealing.
00:36:21.540 I don't know why I'm going to ask this, but how do we know she had Chlamydia twice?
00:36:23.940 She said this on an interview.
00:36:25.200 She had a full-on interview.
00:36:26.640 Yeah, well, Brett, help me out here.
00:36:28.960 Well, no, she did a podcast, and she was talking about the roles of Poundtown.
00:36:32.020 I only know this from the lovely Ben Shapiro show.
00:36:36.200 You're my new pop culture news.
00:36:37.540 I know.
00:36:38.440 Wanted to catch up on the drama.
00:36:40.400 But yeah, so she had Chlamydia twice, and apparently that's not in the roles of Poundtown.
00:36:44.500 She really is a character.
00:36:45.680 She responded...
00:36:46.360 They did not defund the police in Poundtown, by the way.
00:36:48.060 No.
00:36:48.280 I'm just pointing that out.
00:36:49.380 But didn't she respond to you?
00:36:50.700 She commented back and was like some...
00:36:53.660 I don't know if it was sarcastic or not, but she responded to, I think, the reel on your Instagram.
00:36:58.740 Did she?
00:36:59.220 Sexy red.
00:37:00.320 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:37:00.780 And she did respond to something like, thanks for promoting my song or something.
00:37:05.680 Yeah, it was a bunch of also-
00:37:06.640 And I responded to her, I very much look forward to Poundtown 4, the quest for peace.
00:37:12.600 This has become kind of a pattern with you, though, because...
00:37:15.200 To get in fights with rappers?
00:37:16.260 Yes.
00:37:16.940 With email rappers.
00:37:18.040 Because they all suffer from face tattoo syndrome.
00:37:19.480 In this case, literally, Sexy Red has face tattoos.
00:37:22.340 Face tattoo syndrome, as I've explained before, is that weird phenomenon where you walk into
00:37:26.840 a coffee shop and there's some weird lady with a face tattoo, and you're looking at
00:37:31.000 her face tattoo, and she's like, what are you looking at?
00:37:33.060 And you're like, your face tattoo that you put on your face so I would look at it.
00:37:36.280 And she's like, that's offensive.
00:37:37.260 Why are you looking at this face tattoo?
00:37:39.280 Well, I mean, I challenge you not to look at the face tattoo.
00:37:42.120 Yeah.
00:37:42.260 I mean, I thought maybe she just was in a...
00:37:45.360 So, another thing that she does is she colors her hair like this, apparently.
00:37:49.000 I don't know why, but apparently she was out for the Little Mermaid part and it just failed.
00:37:52.540 It didn't work out well for her.
00:37:54.160 And in her chlamydia interview, she actually has, like, her hair is orange with black stripes.
00:37:59.200 Oh, yeah.
00:37:59.540 So, her designer was Tony the Tiger from the Frosted Flakes box.
00:38:02.940 Can I just say, just to be the grumpy old guy for a second, it really is a problem that kids are listening to this stuff.
00:38:10.140 Yes.
00:38:10.780 It's a civilizational level collapse type problem.
00:38:14.020 Yes.
00:38:14.860 And it's not just that it's so gratuitously vulgar and disgusting, but it's just so stupid.
00:38:20.380 It's so dumb.
00:38:21.840 Dude, we didn't get to the worst part of the song.
00:38:23.060 There's a part of the song where she literally opens applications for her child's stepdad.
00:38:27.680 So, sadly, this person has already born a child and that child is in her home.
00:38:31.560 And she actually is, like, talking about how she's looking for a dad for her kid in, like, one of the verses of these songs.
00:38:39.500 Well, that's one way to go.
00:38:41.120 And on her resume is apparently the color of her booty hole.
00:38:44.820 Excellent.
00:38:45.100 This is, yeah.
00:38:46.040 Okay, well, I mean.
00:38:46.960 Now you know things you didn't have to know before.
00:38:48.280 A lot of things I didn't want to know about her.
00:38:49.700 But I, because it's funny because anytime you complain about pop culture, you always hear people say,
00:38:54.780 well, you know, older generations have been saying that forever.
00:38:57.140 They've always, they've always complained about, they were saying back in the 70s, it was demonic.
00:39:00.580 It's like, yeah, they were always right, actually.
00:39:04.020 People back in the 50s who were complaining about Elvis, this is what they were envisioning, is that it would become this.
00:39:09.900 They were, they were.
00:39:10.480 As always.
00:39:11.100 Could not have been more right about it.
00:39:12.420 They could not have been more right about it.
00:39:12.440 It was totally vindicated.
00:39:13.760 That's right.
00:39:14.660 Yeah.
00:39:15.320 The only graph of civilization that matters is the you are here graph, the slippery slope graph that you are here.
00:39:20.800 And it's like, we're about to fail.
00:39:22.580 Nope, we're about.
00:39:23.100 And then it's like an arrow to, like, right before you hit.
00:39:25.500 And you are here.
00:39:26.320 And that's true of all of these things.
00:39:27.960 Basically, everything that you were called the fuddy-duddy for, for saying in the year 2000, you were right on all of them.
00:39:34.120 You were right on, but did you just.
00:39:34.860 I wrote a book called Porn Generation in 2004.
00:39:37.220 I was 21 years old and it was about the pornification of American society.
00:39:40.680 And I had chapters on rap and I had chapters on the mainstreaming of pornography in television.
00:39:44.560 And I had a chapter on Disney stars who were becoming highly sexualized.
00:39:48.040 And at that point it was about Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears.
00:39:49.900 And the book was mocked as fuddy-duddy-ish and how, look at this young man who's pushing this kind of stuff and how, what is he worried about?
00:39:56.620 Why is he so worried about all of this stuff?
00:39:58.180 And I'm sorry to say, but I was right.
00:40:00.100 Yeah.
00:40:00.300 And I really am sorry to say, I wish I were wrong.
00:40:02.180 I wish I were wrong.
00:40:02.600 It was a very encouraging statistic and the youth in the room, I think, would understand this, which is it came out of Gallup.
00:40:08.300 Gallup had its values survey that they came out and it showed a marked shift towards social conservatism.
00:40:14.140 And you see this, especially pronounced in the Republican Party, and you see this all the way on issues like approval of same-sex relations.
00:40:22.800 We're not talking about the issue that everybody's talking about these days.
00:40:25.420 We're not just talking about redefinition of marriage.
00:40:26.760 We're talking about same-sex relations, seven-point drop in one year.
00:40:29.960 You're seeing this across social conservatism.
00:40:31.840 And what's most interesting about it is it's not the old boomer fuddy-duddies who are leading it.
00:40:36.240 In fact, the only group that's becoming more socially liberal are the boomers.
00:40:40.360 It's the younger generations, 18 up to 49, I think it was, that is becoming markedly more socially conservative.
00:40:47.180 So I know it's our job to just complain about the fall of the West every single day.
00:40:51.160 But aren't the Brett Coopers of the world leading the way toward perhaps a move away from sexy EEE red and the-
00:40:57.900 Toward Virtue Town.
00:40:58.920 Virtue Town, baby.
00:41:00.260 Virtue Town.
00:41:00.740 Virtue Town, one, two, three, and four.
00:41:01.800 Yeah.
00:41:02.140 I mean, am I being overly hopeful here?
00:41:04.100 No.
00:41:04.320 No, I do think it's better.
00:41:05.120 I mean, obviously, there are still things that are terrible, especially with my generation.
00:41:09.160 I mean, I do stories all the time about, you know, the OnlyFans girls and all of that stuff.
00:41:12.600 And I think that it's dangerous because it's being marketed online.
00:41:16.380 But I think a lot of young people are pushing away from things that society is generalizing about Gen Z.
00:41:23.520 Like, Gen Z is now the soberest generation, like, in mid-20s.
00:41:27.820 Most abstinent?
00:41:29.000 Yes, most abstinent.
00:41:30.220 They are the ones that are driving the pushback to flip phones.
00:41:33.440 It's, like, interesting things like that.
00:41:34.920 And even though I think Gen Z can be very misguided with their values and, you know, kind of very emotional and obviously directed in wrong ways,
00:41:43.800 they're still very, very passionate and very civilly aware, even if they are kind of misdirected.
00:41:48.080 And I think that that can be pushed back in a different direction.
00:41:50.920 Obviously, we're seeing changes.
00:41:52.080 So that's at least helpful to me.
00:41:53.360 Like, I look at my comments, and it's so encouraging.
00:41:56.680 Like, it's awesome.
00:41:57.280 I think one thing we have going for it is the most encouraging thing for me with the younger generation,
00:42:01.060 some of these videos we've seen recently of, like, high school kids laughing at the LGBT indoctrination going on in their schools
00:42:08.120 or, you know, tearing down the pride.
00:42:09.460 Like, one video in particular, I don't remember where it was, but I think it was a math teacher trying to put on some sort of LGBT video.
00:42:15.560 And the kids were just booing and laughing and pretending to vomit.
00:42:18.940 And it was really encouraging because, first of all, when I was in high school, that's exactly how we would have reacted to that sort of thing.
00:42:23.540 But also, I think it shows that a few things it shows, and one of them is that this stuff, it's not cool because it's what your math teacher pushes.
00:42:33.120 So, yeah.
00:42:34.000 When it became the culture, it's no longer the character culture.
00:42:35.520 Right.
00:42:35.740 As soon as, like, the 45-year-old woman who teaches algebra is telling you about LGBT pride, it's like, it's not cool anymore.
00:42:42.660 I mean, it has all the institutional power, but it can't be cool, and it can't be rebellious.
00:42:46.980 It's no longer edgy.
00:42:47.760 I mean, did you guys see that article where they said that, like, has monogamy become the new kink?
00:42:53.960 Because we have gone so far.
00:42:55.520 That is literally, it's a serious article.
00:42:56.800 I'm a sick fetishist because I'm married.
00:42:58.920 Yes, because we have gone so far that now something that is virtuous and correct and good is now the edgy rebellion.
00:43:05.560 Like, the last line is, like, it's dangerous.
00:43:07.940 Good for them that they finally found the kink that brings sexual satisfaction and happiness.
00:43:11.220 Right.
00:43:11.540 Good for them.
00:43:12.120 It took 60 years.
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00:44:46.860 So, yeah.
00:44:47.900 I'm very hopeful on this.
00:44:49.380 I'll tell you when I...
00:44:50.080 So one of the reasons I'm...
00:44:51.160 So one of the things that's happened...
00:44:52.200 The reason this is happening is because, finally...
00:44:54.780 And the reason I think a lot of people feel vindicated who are arguing the slippery slope is...
00:44:58.620 The argument that was being made in 2000, in 1995, in 1990 was always a lie.
00:45:02.820 And we kept saying over and over, this is not the argument that's being made.
00:45:05.600 The argument that you are saying you are making is not the argument that you are actually making.
00:45:08.820 The argument that you say that you're making is, why can't you leave people alone in the privacy of their own bedrooms to do what they want?
00:45:13.820 And all we really want is to be involved in just monogamous relations with one another where we can go visit each other at hospitals.
00:45:20.400 And it's like...
00:45:21.060 And everybody on the right was like, that's not what you want.
00:45:22.460 What you want is to overthrow key societal institutions.
00:45:24.480 And then you want to supplant those institutions with a morally relativistic view that prizes individual sexual orientation and pleasure.
00:45:32.620 And then you want to bicycle naked down the street.
00:45:34.600 Right.
00:45:34.800 And that's the manifestation of it.
00:45:36.320 That's the final manifestation.
00:45:37.300 Well, we've reached the final manifestation.
00:45:38.680 Because after Obergefell, I think most Americans were like, okay, well, you got what you want.
00:45:42.360 So I guess we're done here.
00:45:43.580 And then they're like, well, no, that's not what we want at all.
00:45:46.580 What we would like is for your church to celebrate it.
00:45:48.160 What we need is to make sure that your kid hears about it.
00:45:49.860 We need to make sure that your kid is watching naked bicyclists ride down the street in Seattle.
00:45:53.460 Like, it's really, really important that your kid be indoctrinated in all this.
00:45:56.220 And people weren't like, wait, why is it important that our kid be indoctrinated in all this?
00:45:59.440 And the answer is because it was always about an entire value system.
00:46:02.320 It was not...
00:46:03.020 It was symptomatic of a value system.
00:46:04.900 I think the entire society misinterpreted the call for things like same-sex marriage as,
00:46:09.420 what if we just expanded traditional institutions to include further marginalized people?
00:46:12.940 So this is why it was pitched as basically a civil rights movement, right?
00:46:15.700 The civil rights movement was voting has existed for a long time and is good.
00:46:18.840 And you should make sure that black people can do it also.
00:46:21.040 And we're like, that makes perfect sense.
00:46:22.220 It's a great institution.
00:46:23.000 We should extend it to include further people.
00:46:24.900 Then the argument for same-sex marriage was made along the same lines,
00:46:27.660 even though it was fundamentally dishonest,
00:46:28.840 because you have to redefine marriage in order to include that particular definition of marriage.
00:46:32.580 But the idea was, we're not threatening marriage.
00:46:34.120 We're just doing the same thing you're doing.
00:46:35.360 We're just changing the people who are involved.
00:46:37.160 We're expanding it.
00:46:37.640 Right.
00:46:37.820 But that's not what it was about.
00:46:39.660 The entire movement was about,
00:46:40.900 what if we destroy traditional civilizational institutions?
00:46:43.200 And then, what if we supplant those with another form of values that we must indoctrinate your kids with?
00:46:50.220 We must indoctrinate your kids with these things.
00:46:51.960 And I think that's what people are reacting to.
00:46:53.280 They're seeing the mask come off, and they're like, oh my God,
00:46:56.300 I can't believe that the call came from inside the house.
00:46:59.560 Yes, and this is why, by the way, you can see a seven-point drop in approval of same-sex relations in one year,
00:47:05.480 because ideas have consequences, as we all know.
00:47:08.420 And so, we've had some bad ideas, some wrong premises,
00:47:10.960 and it's led to all these kind of crazy consequences,
00:47:13.020 and a lot of people didn't notice it as it was happening.
00:47:15.320 But when you get to the most extreme consequences,
00:47:19.100 then you can go in the other direction.
00:47:20.620 You can say, well, consequences come from bad ideas.
00:47:23.640 And so, I think, especially with Zoomers,
00:47:24.940 they start pulling on that thread, and they say, okay,
00:47:27.420 if this really extreme instantiation of an idea is bad,
00:47:31.280 well, where did that come from?
00:47:32.940 Exactly.
00:47:33.300 Right?
00:47:34.000 And so, they're hurtling back in the other direction.
00:47:36.900 I think it's also, you know,
00:47:38.520 it's symptomatic of just a broader doubt in society's new institutions.
00:47:42.960 So, we like to talk about the destruction of the institutions, and it's true, right?
00:47:46.500 I mean, we have very low trust for all institutions,
00:47:48.780 but the new institutions are the ones we have the least trust in,
00:47:51.320 because those are really,
00:47:52.500 the truth is that all of our institutions,
00:47:53.980 basically, were Hannibal Lecter-ed.
00:47:55.660 I mean, like, their faces are being worn around by people
00:47:57.940 who are not actually the people.
00:47:59.620 They took the institution of science, and they gutted it,
00:48:01.760 and then they wore the face of science around
00:48:03.000 while proclaiming that everybody had to mask up children and all of this.
00:48:05.520 But the new institutions are the things that people doubt
00:48:08.200 more than anything else,
00:48:09.740 because they're clearly and overtly lying.
00:48:12.180 And all the things that they are saying to you,
00:48:14.400 you know are not true.
00:48:15.740 Which brings us to Lizzo.
00:48:16.840 So, like, I really think this stuff is kind of important.
00:48:19.940 There's an entire piece in the Washington Post today
00:48:22.540 about why Lizzo is a heroine
00:48:26.280 and is not actually a fat activist.
00:48:28.440 She's an activist for all of us.
00:48:29.760 And being large is really totally fine.
00:48:33.160 And why is everybody,
00:48:34.020 it's a standard of beauty that's really the problem.
00:48:36.280 And here's the thing,
00:48:37.060 everybody knows in their heart that it's not true.
00:48:39.040 Everybody knows that it's not true.
00:48:40.540 Which is why there's that great meme that's been going around,
00:48:42.460 where it's, I think it started with Tim Pool, actually.
00:48:44.320 Where Tim Pool was like,
00:48:45.300 you talk to people on the left,
00:48:46.500 and they're all like, Lizzo's beautiful.
00:48:47.520 It's like, you should say,
00:48:48.920 well, you remind me of Lizzo.
00:48:50.740 And then see how that works out for you.
00:48:54.340 Lizzo doesn't believe it either.
00:48:56.020 I mean, she just recently was saying
00:48:57.180 she wants to drop out of music
00:48:59.640 because she can't deal with the criticism.
00:49:01.400 And meanwhile, it's like,
00:49:02.200 that's very telling because she's got
00:49:03.760 the Washington Post,
00:49:05.220 all the major media outlets,
00:49:06.520 every institute, fans,
00:49:08.000 everyone telling her she's beautiful,
00:49:08.980 she's amazing.
00:49:10.260 And then just one,
00:49:11.320 I think that her whole freakout
00:49:12.700 was one comment
00:49:13.640 that one random person left
00:49:15.320 that made it all come crumbling down.
00:49:17.860 It was Candace.
00:49:19.460 Before she blocked Candace.
00:49:20.700 I think she blocked Candace.
00:49:21.560 Was it Candace?
00:49:22.120 I don't know if it actually was her.
00:49:23.640 I think it happened.
00:49:24.600 But I know that she blocked Candace.
00:49:27.940 She's like clapping.
00:49:28.780 She's like, I did that.
00:49:29.580 I did that.
00:49:30.000 Either way,
00:49:30.760 it's just being showered with love
00:49:34.260 and then one person makes it all come crumbling down.
00:49:35.960 But by the way,
00:49:36.500 this I guess is why,
00:49:38.200 to tie it back in with the 2024
00:49:39.460 and all the other elections,
00:49:40.760 the reason I'm a little down
00:49:41.940 on Republican prospects
00:49:43.000 is one,
00:49:44.040 because I think the system is rough.
00:49:45.440 You know, the other day,
00:49:46.140 we found 300 mail-in ballots
00:49:48.540 in a random locker in Michigan.
00:49:50.180 And I'm not saying it swung the election,
00:49:51.860 but I bet there's a lot of lockers in Michigan.
00:49:53.680 And so that's a systemic issue
00:49:54.980 that you got to deal with.
00:49:56.020 But more broadly,
00:49:57.320 just look at what we're seeing.
00:49:59.360 We all know that this stuff is crazy.
00:50:01.240 We're looking,
00:50:01.760 we're seeing this reflected in the polls,
00:50:02.920 especially among younger voters.
00:50:03.860 No one really believes that Lizzo is healthy.
00:50:06.140 No one really believes
00:50:07.000 a lot of the lies that we're told.
00:50:08.820 And yet the institutions,
00:50:11.240 the governing powers
00:50:12.840 and the media and tech
00:50:13.660 and the schools and the government,
00:50:15.240 they're all putting that flag
00:50:17.360 right in front of us.
00:50:18.060 They're all putting the bicyclists
00:50:19.040 right in front of us.
00:50:19.680 None of them are letting up.
00:50:21.020 Bud Light's not letting up.
00:50:22.240 Target's not letting up.
00:50:23.000 None of them are.
00:50:24.080 And why are they not letting up?
00:50:25.320 Because they feel confident enough
00:50:27.040 that the people can be
00:50:28.600 as angry as they want to be.
00:50:30.060 That's not going to make a difference.
00:50:31.380 Even if the many are furious,
00:50:33.240 the few still have the power.
00:50:34.620 I think that this has been
00:50:36.540 one of the best Pride Months
00:50:37.660 in the history of Pride Month.
00:50:38.780 Sure.
00:50:39.360 I mean, because honestly,
00:50:40.520 like you've seen it actually.
00:50:41.160 What have you been up to?
00:50:41.760 Well, and there have been
00:50:42.760 all sorts of brands
00:50:44.260 have basically been like,
00:50:45.480 you know what?
00:50:46.860 Yeah.
00:50:47.560 Right.
00:50:47.720 The NHL said,
00:50:48.660 you don't have to wear
00:50:49.200 the warm-up jerseys anymore.
00:50:50.120 We're just not going to do
00:50:50.740 this stuff anymore.
00:50:51.820 And you know what?
00:50:53.120 That's great.
00:50:53.780 I mean, like, again,
00:50:55.380 that's being driven
00:50:56.120 by the excesses.
00:50:57.000 But this is the part
00:50:57.580 that's so funny is that
00:50:58.340 I will never cease
00:51:00.220 to find it humorous
00:51:01.000 that people suddenly
00:51:01.800 discover that
00:51:03.240 Pride parades exist.
00:51:04.740 Like, I'm never going to
00:51:05.800 stop thinking this is funny.
00:51:06.900 Like, people will be like,
00:51:08.140 oh my God,
00:51:08.600 I was at a Pride parade
00:51:09.440 and a Pride parade broke out.
00:51:10.940 It's like, yeah, correct.
00:51:12.680 What do you think
00:51:13.360 happens at the end?
00:51:14.360 Correct.
00:51:14.980 The media depiction
00:51:15.560 for 40 years
00:51:16.480 of the Pride parade was,
00:51:17.900 oh, it's just, you know,
00:51:18.480 it's a bunch of nice-looking
00:51:19.960 homosexual families
00:51:21.440 who are walking down the street
00:51:22.720 wearing, like,
00:51:23.960 American pastoral,
00:51:25.800 you know,
00:51:26.900 pitchforks and suits
00:51:28.160 and they're carrying
00:51:29.500 a gay Pride flag
00:51:30.360 just like you would
00:51:31.220 if you were gay.
00:51:32.160 And then what these parades
00:51:34.200 have been since literally ever
00:51:35.520 has been men
00:51:36.520 and assless chaps
00:51:37.360 dancing around
00:51:38.280 and suddenly
00:51:39.840 there are cameras
00:51:40.480 trained on it
00:51:40.960 and people are allowed
00:51:41.560 to notice.
00:51:42.160 And I'm not sure
00:51:42.760 what happened
00:51:43.220 when people were,
00:51:43.880 it's just Twitter basically.
00:51:45.620 I mean,
00:51:45.820 it's the rise of social media
00:51:47.320 because before that
00:51:48.580 it was the media
00:51:49.040 that was basically
00:51:49.560 doing cleanup
00:51:50.000 for all of this stuff.
00:51:50.740 It was like you weren't
00:51:51.180 allowed to mention
00:51:51.720 that any of this stuff
00:51:52.380 was happening.
00:51:53.060 It's why people are mad
00:51:53.680 at libs of TikTok
00:51:54.260 for actually putting
00:51:55.000 this stuff on her account now,
00:51:57.060 right?
00:51:57.180 They're mad at Chaya,
00:51:57.760 like, oh my God,
00:51:58.620 you're exposing millions
00:52:00.140 of children
00:52:00.620 to this sort of stuff
00:52:01.260 by putting it
00:52:01.600 on your TikTok account.
00:52:02.240 She's still search banned,
00:52:03.360 by the way.
00:52:03.760 I don't know if you saw that.
00:52:04.560 Oh, really?
00:52:05.080 Search suppressed.
00:52:05.680 I searched for her yesterday.
00:52:06.980 She won't pop up in search.
00:52:08.160 Many, many other people
00:52:09.080 are reporting this.
00:52:09.780 Some of the independent sites
00:52:10.600 are showing that.
00:52:11.680 I'm seeing some people
00:52:12.420 on the right,
00:52:12.720 you want to talk about
00:52:13.240 misbegotten criticism.
00:52:14.280 There are people on the right
00:52:14.820 who are saying,
00:52:15.500 well, you know,
00:52:15.880 you're just adding
00:52:16.620 to the exposure
00:52:17.280 that these people are getting
00:52:18.200 when they're being
00:52:18.640 exhibitionistic
00:52:19.340 by pointing out
00:52:20.740 that they're doing this stuff
00:52:21.580 and then retweeting
00:52:22.280 the videos of them doing it.
00:52:23.320 And it's like,
00:52:23.800 you're missing the entire point.
00:52:25.200 You're missing the entire point.
00:52:26.240 If the thing is a moral atrocity,
00:52:28.100 if the thing is a problem
00:52:28.960 and more people know
00:52:29.620 about the problem
00:52:30.240 and the moral atrocity,
00:52:31.320 more people are likely
00:52:31.920 to resist the problem
00:52:32.660 and the moral atrocity.
00:52:33.620 We have to be better,
00:52:34.640 I think,
00:52:34.840 on the right
00:52:35.160 about celebrating
00:52:36.620 our victories
00:52:37.100 when they come.
00:52:38.280 Because I think
00:52:38.820 there's a certain attitude
00:52:39.760 that nothing is ever a victory.
00:52:41.400 It's always terrible.
00:52:42.480 It never gets better.
00:52:43.940 And we're seeing this, too,
00:52:45.020 with some of the stuff
00:52:45.740 in Pride Month.
00:52:46.320 People say,
00:52:46.800 well,
00:52:47.560 institutions are still,
00:52:49.020 these companies,
00:52:49.560 they're still doing Pride.
00:52:50.940 Bud Light fired those executives.
00:52:52.240 Yeah, Bud Light fired
00:52:53.140 the executives.
00:52:54.420 A lot of these companies
00:52:55.500 are pulling back
00:52:56.040 from the Pride stuff.
00:52:56.940 Hold on a second.
00:52:57.560 Look, I'll let you have
00:52:59.240 your giving me hope moment.
00:53:01.320 But before we do that,
00:53:02.860 yeah, they fire this VP of marketing
00:53:04.760 who took the fall
00:53:05.420 for this thing.
00:53:06.500 This decision was made
00:53:07.800 at a much higher level.
00:53:08.760 And it was made
00:53:09.080 at a higher level
00:53:09.680 because of the asset managers
00:53:11.580 that are pushing ESG.
00:53:12.800 And it was made
00:53:13.120 at a higher level
00:53:13.680 because Transheiser Bush
00:53:14.780 is part of GARM, right?
00:53:16.580 The Global Alliance
00:53:17.380 for Responsibility in Media.
00:53:18.940 And because they've made
00:53:19.760 a deal with the tech platforms
00:53:21.100 such that they're
00:53:22.200 not going to permit.
00:53:23.880 Yeah, but Larry Fink
00:53:24.540 is admitting from BlackRock
00:53:25.640 that he's backed off investments
00:53:26.860 because, by the way,
00:53:27.520 I know people who are deep
00:53:28.320 in this particular world
00:53:29.380 and they've told me
00:53:30.660 specifically that Larry Fink
00:53:31.960 has really backed off a lot.
00:53:33.380 He doesn't like the bad press,
00:53:34.460 but are the companies changing?
00:53:35.900 I don't buy it.
00:53:36.480 It doesn't matter.
00:53:37.100 I don't care if they've had
00:53:38.480 a real authentic change
00:53:39.840 deep down in their hearts.
00:53:40.680 I don't care about that.
00:53:41.260 What I want is for them
00:53:43.660 to respond to our pressure.
00:53:45.300 Correct.
00:53:45.500 And if they respond begrudgingly
00:53:47.000 and they don't mean it
00:53:47.800 and they hate us,
00:53:48.720 even better.
00:53:49.680 I mean, on the left,
00:53:50.900 if they get you to do something
00:53:52.040 and they know
00:53:53.040 you don't mean it,
00:53:54.020 that's the greatest victory.
00:53:55.880 So as far as I'm concerned,
00:53:56.940 if Bud Light is pretending,
00:53:59.040 fantastic.
00:53:59.480 They haven't apologized.
00:54:00.160 They're pretending
00:54:00.340 because we forced them to.
00:54:01.660 But are they?
00:54:02.220 They're still sponsoring
00:54:03.000 these parades.
00:54:03.780 Has that really changed anything?
00:54:05.300 It's not perfect,
00:54:06.560 but even something like
00:54:07.260 Target is still
00:54:08.020 a progressive company.
00:54:09.320 They took the pride garbage
00:54:10.620 and they moved it
00:54:11.280 to the back of the store.
00:54:12.460 Now, a lot of conservatives
00:54:13.320 say, well, it's still there.
00:54:15.040 I think that's awesome.
00:54:16.320 I agree.
00:54:16.680 Now, it doesn't,
00:54:17.480 I'm not going to shop at Target.
00:54:18.500 The fact that they thought
00:54:19.760 they had to do that,
00:54:20.740 that they had to hide,
00:54:21.700 you know,
00:54:22.320 they had to hide their light
00:54:23.380 under a bushel.
00:54:23.900 I'll also tell you
00:54:24.480 why it's important
00:54:24.960 to declare victories
00:54:25.820 when you actually receive them
00:54:26.780 is because it's almost impossible,
00:54:28.840 especially when you're talking
00:54:29.880 not about specific brands
00:54:30.980 like Bud Light,
00:54:32.100 but when you're talking
00:54:32.560 about broad overall brand,
00:54:34.200 you got to pick,
00:54:34.780 so the right is very bad
00:54:35.720 at picking targets also
00:54:36.600 because it's such
00:54:37.480 a universalistic tsunami
00:54:38.920 of this sort of stuff.
00:54:40.860 The right will be like,
00:54:41.440 well, all the companies
00:54:42.160 are like this.
00:54:42.680 Well, you can boycott
00:54:43.400 like everything.
00:54:44.060 You can't boycott everything.
00:54:44.940 And the reality is
00:54:46.080 that honestly,
00:54:47.300 like winning any victory
00:54:48.140 from Target,
00:54:49.140 you should take the victory
00:54:50.000 and you should promote
00:54:50.860 that victory
00:54:51.400 because in a lot of towns,
00:54:52.820 Target's the only place
00:54:53.640 that you can actually shop.
00:54:54.580 It's not as though Target
00:54:55.740 is, you know,
00:54:56.920 like Bud Light
00:54:57.620 where you just move over
00:54:58.620 one shelf
00:54:59.200 and now it's Sam Adams, right?
00:55:00.940 Target might be
00:55:01.620 in your area
00:55:02.400 the only convenience store
00:55:04.140 that actually has
00:55:04.720 all the things that you need
00:55:05.740 in like a several mile radius.
00:55:07.800 And so for people
00:55:08.760 to boycott it
00:55:09.460 to the point
00:55:09.820 where they actually were,
00:55:10.860 where they got
00:55:11.300 a concerted action
00:55:12.260 out of that,
00:55:13.120 that's a good thing.
00:55:13.800 You can't ask people
00:55:14.700 to do more
00:55:15.440 than they're actually
00:55:16.060 capable of doing
00:55:16.680 especially when there
00:55:17.720 are no alternatives, right?
00:55:18.680 I mean, we've launched
00:55:19.140 entire brands
00:55:21.380 that are supposed
00:55:22.020 to be responses
00:55:22.700 to this sort of stuff,
00:55:23.540 Jeremy's Razors
00:55:24.320 and Jeremy's Chocolates
00:55:25.140 and all this sort of stuff
00:55:25.840 but we don't have
00:55:26.740 alternative Target, right?
00:55:28.440 We don't.
00:55:29.080 And so you actually
00:55:29.920 have to pick targets
00:55:30.680 that you can knock down.
00:55:31.420 When you knock them down
00:55:32.000 you should celebrate
00:55:32.600 specifically because
00:55:33.460 the whole point
00:55:34.380 that the left makes
00:55:34.920 and this is what
00:55:35.320 they're really about
00:55:35.860 is they pick people
00:55:36.920 and they hurt them
00:55:37.620 and they hurt them
00:55:38.340 as badly as they can
00:55:39.340 to encourage you
00:55:40.320 and you and me
00:55:41.520 and all of us
00:55:42.220 not to engage
00:55:42.980 in the business anymore, right?
00:55:44.260 It's a shaming
00:55:45.160 and destruction campaign.
00:55:46.380 The point of going after
00:55:47.420 rando lady
00:55:48.420 in a New York park
00:55:49.240 is not that they care
00:55:50.160 about rando lady
00:55:50.800 in a New York park.
00:55:51.340 They don't.
00:55:52.200 They care so little about her.
00:55:53.240 They're willing
00:55:53.440 to destroy her life.
00:55:54.340 They destroy rando lady
00:55:55.280 in a New York park
00:55:55.880 so that you will shut up.
00:55:57.400 And so the same tactic
00:55:58.620 applies on the other side.
00:55:59.500 Meaning like if we tell,
00:56:00.480 if we get Bud Light
00:56:01.380 to even provide
00:56:03.020 the concession
00:56:03.540 that they're symbolically
00:56:05.820 firing people
00:56:06.580 over this thing,
00:56:07.760 how many other companies
00:56:08.600 that were thinking
00:56:09.200 of doing the thing
00:56:10.200 are not going
00:56:11.000 to do the thing?
00:56:11.880 Because why would they
00:56:12.540 step onto the landmine
00:56:13.740 anymore?
00:56:14.600 That's the whole point
00:56:15.420 is to get them
00:56:15.840 not to step on the landmine
00:56:16.780 in the first place.
00:56:17.600 So this is part of the problem
00:56:18.560 of trying to measure the change.
00:56:19.960 You're measuring
00:56:20.680 the absence of a change.
00:56:22.220 You're actually measuring
00:56:22.860 in many cases
00:56:24.120 a company that doesn't
00:56:25.100 do the thing.
00:56:25.860 It's not just getting companies
00:56:26.620 to back off the thing
00:56:27.320 which we have seen some of
00:56:28.220 by the way.
00:56:28.900 It's getting companies
00:56:29.620 that were about
00:56:30.320 to do the thing
00:56:30.940 not to make a step in it.
00:56:32.300 It's not just companies too.
00:56:33.000 It's also individuals.
00:56:34.020 Yes.
00:56:34.140 I think the left is good.
00:56:35.400 You know,
00:56:35.780 you can single out,
00:56:37.080 it's correct,
00:56:37.640 you want to pick out
00:56:38.200 certain institutions,
00:56:39.500 certain companies
00:56:40.000 make examples out of them
00:56:41.140 but you also do that
00:56:42.180 with individual people
00:56:43.220 which is something
00:56:43.800 that we did
00:56:44.260 with Dylan Mulvaney.
00:56:45.100 The difference
00:56:45.400 between Dylan Mulvaney
00:56:46.120 and the random person
00:56:46.800 at the park
00:56:47.260 is Mulvaney deserves it.
00:56:48.920 He put himself out there.
00:56:50.120 Right,
00:56:50.320 he put himself out there
00:56:51.120 but the plan
00:56:52.320 by the powers that be
00:56:54.320 was to take
00:56:54.820 Dylan Mulvaney,
00:56:56.020 make him into
00:56:56.480 a mainstream mascot
00:56:57.700 of transgenderism
00:56:58.720 and they had this plan.
00:56:59.740 Remember,
00:57:00.140 with his 33,
00:57:01.160 65 days of girlhood
00:57:02.140 or whatever,
00:57:02.920 this plan,
00:57:03.580 this big gala
00:57:04.820 that he threw
00:57:05.440 to celebrate
00:57:06.040 a year of girlhood.
00:57:07.460 He even said
00:57:07.960 that he was planning
00:57:08.560 that for months
00:57:09.200 ahead of time.
00:57:09.780 So,
00:57:11.020 it takes money
00:57:12.940 and funding to do this.
00:57:13.820 So,
00:57:13.960 they selected him
00:57:14.920 and said,
00:57:15.520 you're going to be
00:57:15.840 our mainstream
00:57:16.560 cheerleader
00:57:17.640 for transgenderism.
00:57:18.720 Well,
00:57:18.960 some of us on the right
00:57:19.680 said,
00:57:20.160 no,
00:57:20.300 no,
00:57:20.400 no,
00:57:20.500 no.
00:57:20.780 So,
00:57:21.580 this is a toxic figure
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00:59:00.680 Now,
00:59:00.940 all the things
00:59:01.420 we're talking about,
00:59:02.240 by the way,
00:59:03.140 might be a completely
00:59:04.080 moot point
00:59:04.860 because within a matter
00:59:06.500 of moments,
00:59:07.840 we might be in
00:59:08.760 World War III.
00:59:10.820 Because of the aliens?
00:59:11.940 Okay, here we go.
00:59:12.820 I thought you were
00:59:14.220 there.
00:59:15.020 Uh-huh.
00:59:15.520 Well, because of certain aliens.
00:59:17.140 You missed it.
00:59:17.360 That was earlier.
00:59:18.020 That was before you came in.
00:59:19.200 Before we get to the aliens.
00:59:20.200 We can get to the aliens
00:59:21.080 before we go.
00:59:21.860 Before we get to the aliens,
00:59:24.120 you're...
00:59:24.640 Do you think they're going to be
00:59:24.940 nicer or are they going to be
00:59:25.660 mean, the aliens?
00:59:26.400 Uh...
00:59:27.680 They're demons,
00:59:28.420 so they're going to be
00:59:28.960 mean, Ben.
00:59:29.380 Because of you guys.
00:59:29.920 Well, you and your demons.
00:59:30.840 Yeah, I hope they're not
00:59:32.160 my demons.
00:59:32.540 Between the two of you.
00:59:33.260 Yeah.
00:59:34.080 There are no aliens
00:59:34.820 and demons are...
00:59:35.980 Nonsense.
00:59:37.280 Wait, the aliens are nonsense?
00:59:38.680 Both of the things
00:59:39.500 you're saying are nonsense.
00:59:40.220 I don't care about the aliens.
00:59:41.120 They're not here.
00:59:41.960 I don't know.
00:59:42.640 You were trying to take
00:59:43.280 the conversation
00:59:43.800 somewhere else.
00:59:44.680 No, but then I'm
00:59:45.660 curious if you thought
00:59:46.780 the aliens were going to go.
00:59:47.820 I don't even know
00:59:48.740 Brett's view on aliens.
00:59:51.680 This is big.
00:59:52.120 You actually did ask me
00:59:53.160 one time.
00:59:53.680 You forgot.
00:59:54.880 On your member block,
00:59:55.760 you asked me.
00:59:56.620 This is so rude.
00:59:57.780 I can't believe it.
00:59:58.120 That's very...
00:59:58.460 That's classic.
00:59:59.840 That's just like a man.
01:00:00.880 Right?
01:00:01.320 Just out in one ear
01:00:02.380 or out the other.
01:00:02.800 I take the member's block
01:00:03.680 very seriously.
01:00:04.440 Yeah, obviously.
01:00:05.580 So I can't believe
01:00:06.140 that I forgot.
01:00:08.640 Where are you weighing in?
01:00:09.760 No, I think that
01:00:11.640 it's very possible.
01:00:12.500 I'm not committed to it.
01:00:14.600 It's not my favorite topic.
01:00:18.220 It's not the thing
01:00:20.500 that I choose to dive into,
01:00:21.820 but I think that
01:00:22.380 it's definitely plausible.
01:00:23.260 Can I just get a clarification
01:00:24.100 on the contention
01:00:25.060 that you're making?
01:00:25.640 Is it that there is
01:00:26.240 life in the universe
01:00:27.100 or that that life
01:00:27.780 in the universe
01:00:28.120 has found us here?
01:00:29.420 Both.
01:00:30.460 Yeah, you're crazy.
01:00:31.440 The first one, yes.
01:00:32.140 The second one, no.
01:00:32.660 Anyway, do you agree with him
01:00:34.340 that the UFOs are here already?
01:00:36.040 Oh, I don't know
01:00:36.440 if they're here already.
01:00:37.200 I don't know enough,
01:00:37.860 but I guess that
01:00:38.800 they probably exist somewhere.
01:00:40.040 I think that something else has to do.
01:00:41.080 I didn't say
01:00:41.380 they've definitely been here.
01:00:42.260 I said it's the most likely
01:00:43.860 explanation for what
01:00:45.000 we have witnessed
01:00:45.600 is that they've been here.
01:00:48.220 I want you to get
01:00:49.020 the footage from Jake Paul.
01:00:51.380 That is going to be huge.
01:00:52.280 Jake Paul has footage of aliens?
01:00:53.760 What if they're here
01:00:54.700 and they're creating Pound Town?
01:00:56.520 Well, then I might believe.
01:00:57.720 Then I believe.
01:00:58.320 That's why they incinerate
01:00:59.600 the planet because of that stuff.
01:01:01.000 It's sexy red.
01:01:01.820 So Jake Paul has footage,
01:01:05.340 allegedly has the most convincing
01:01:08.200 footage of like an alien
01:01:10.540 encounter in the U.S.
01:01:11.820 And a man has it on this VHS.
01:01:14.300 I think it was in Nevada.
01:01:15.500 I'm pretty sure
01:01:15.920 it's from the article I sent you.
01:01:18.660 1973.
01:01:19.500 It's a little grainy.
01:01:20.860 I think it's VHS or
01:01:21.680 it's some kind of DVD.
01:01:22.380 I'm not sure.
01:01:22.680 And this guy has it
01:01:24.820 and he's the only one
01:01:25.440 that has a copy of it
01:01:26.240 and he will not sell it
01:01:27.320 to anybody but he will
01:01:28.060 show it to you if you go.
01:01:29.900 And so Jake Paul went
01:01:30.860 trying to buy it.
01:01:32.680 Is it Jake Paul
01:01:33.040 or is it Logan Paul?
01:01:33.660 I think it's Jake Paul.
01:01:34.840 He went.
01:01:35.940 Is it Logan?
01:01:36.700 It's Logan.
01:01:37.320 I think you told me Logan.
01:01:37.900 My pop culture is just not.
01:01:39.300 Anyway, whoever it is
01:01:39.980 I believe him.
01:01:40.720 Yeah, I'm sure.
01:01:41.520 But he goes and he wears
01:01:42.640 the little hidden cameras
01:01:43.560 and he films,
01:01:44.820 he has the guy show it
01:01:45.540 to him multiple times
01:01:46.480 and he gets it
01:01:47.160 from all angles
01:01:47.720 but now he won't even
01:01:48.560 show the footage.
01:01:49.100 Yeah, this is all
01:01:51.340 very credible.
01:01:52.040 This is like the most
01:01:52.640 credible thing
01:01:53.180 that has ever been credible.
01:01:54.040 I'm not trying to hijack
01:01:55.520 the whole conversation.
01:01:56.740 It's too late.
01:01:57.280 But you're not not.
01:01:58.460 I'm not not trying to.
01:01:59.660 Yeah.
01:02:01.060 What's that box cutter
01:02:01.940 in your hand?
01:02:02.460 This conversational box cutter
01:02:03.780 right there.
01:02:04.740 When you've got
01:02:05.560 we weren't talking
01:02:07.060 about anything important
01:02:07.520 anyway.
01:02:08.340 When you've got
01:02:09.500 government officials,
01:02:11.300 intelligence,
01:02:12.460 people that worked
01:02:13.040 in intelligence.
01:02:13.160 People that would
01:02:13.540 never lie to us.
01:02:14.240 Yeah.
01:02:14.880 Why would they lie about this?
01:02:15.960 See, that's what
01:02:16.500 doesn't make any sense.
01:02:17.020 He doesn't even testify
01:02:18.020 that he has seen
01:02:18.760 evidence of the aliens.
01:02:19.840 He said he read a report
01:02:20.860 that there were
01:02:21.420 that there was evidence
01:02:22.800 of the aliens.
01:02:23.140 He has not witnessed
01:02:23.820 any tape of the aliens.
01:02:24.700 He's not witnessing
01:02:25.020 pictures of the aliens.
01:02:25.880 He hasn't actually
01:02:26.320 seen the aliens.
01:02:27.500 So he's a guy
01:02:28.120 who saw a document
01:02:28.760 that he had.
01:02:30.300 I mean, at least I'd find
01:02:31.180 it slightly more credible
01:02:31.980 because then he would
01:02:33.100 actually be somebody
01:02:33.740 testifying that he had
01:02:34.920 seen it and then we'd
01:02:35.900 have to adjudicate whether
01:02:36.740 he was competent or not
01:02:37.700 to testify because it
01:02:38.440 turns out the vast majority
01:02:39.160 of people.
01:02:39.420 He worked in the
01:02:39.440 intelligence agency that
01:02:40.820 dealt with these
01:02:41.820 unidentified aerials.
01:02:41.980 Right, but we need to be
01:02:42.600 clear about what exactly
01:02:43.680 he was attesting to.
01:02:44.840 The thing he was
01:02:45.240 attesting to was not
01:02:46.000 that he, like...
01:02:46.640 He was attesting to
01:02:47.620 the testimony of other,
01:02:49.720 of not just one person,
01:02:50.600 multiple people who
01:02:51.700 told him about it.
01:02:52.280 He was attesting to
01:02:53.080 the testimony that he
01:02:53.960 heard from his cousin's
01:02:54.900 neighbor who heard it
01:02:55.840 from a very credible guy
01:02:56.780 who was an alien.
01:02:58.040 I'm not saying he made
01:02:58.500 it up.
01:02:58.660 He might not have.
01:03:00.040 He saw a report.
01:03:00.780 He might sincerely
01:03:01.240 believe it.
01:03:01.560 He saw a report.
01:03:02.220 He might believe it.
01:03:02.720 So the report, but why
01:03:03.960 would the government...
01:03:04.460 See, this doesn't...
01:03:04.940 The government for decades
01:03:06.480 was...
01:03:07.040 Every UFO sighting was
01:03:08.360 swamp gas.
01:03:09.240 It was whatever.
01:03:10.020 It was a...
01:03:10.740 Whatever.
01:03:12.020 It was a weather balloon.
01:03:13.680 And now, we're finally
01:03:14.860 starting to hear,
01:03:15.600 well, maybe some of that
01:03:16.400 stuff actually was.
01:03:17.760 This is why I don't
01:03:18.540 believe the government.
01:03:19.820 Like, now that they're
01:03:20.280 saying it, I would be
01:03:21.320 more likely to believe
01:03:21.960 the UFOs like 50 years
01:03:22.980 ago when they were
01:03:23.400 saying it's swamp gas.
01:03:24.180 Now that they're
01:03:24.440 saying it might be UFOs,
01:03:25.300 oh my god, it's bullcrap.
01:03:26.100 If you deny it, what
01:03:27.120 you actually are
01:03:28.080 believing the government,
01:03:28.780 you're believing the
01:03:29.520 narrative that they
01:03:30.440 sold us for 50 years
01:03:31.640 about this stuff.
01:03:32.620 Right, they were more
01:03:33.060 credible 50 years ago
01:03:33.920 than they are now.
01:03:34.480 But it also wasn't
01:03:35.500 aliens 50 years ago.
01:03:36.400 50 years ago, it was
01:03:37.380 Cold War spy planes,
01:03:38.700 and now it's demons.
01:03:41.020 Oh, come on.
01:03:41.540 It is demons.
01:03:42.720 It is.
01:03:43.180 Listen, listen.
01:03:43.980 A Catholic fight, do it.
01:03:45.020 I'm totally serious
01:03:45.920 about this.
01:03:46.480 We know that spiritual
01:03:47.920 reality exists, right?
01:03:48.960 We know that...
01:03:49.500 Why would demons be in...
01:03:51.020 Why would they be in
01:03:51.760 vehicles?
01:03:52.380 Like, why are they
01:03:52.920 flying around in the sky?
01:03:54.480 Well, people are seeing
01:03:55.500 these weird things.
01:03:56.280 Yeah, but people see
01:03:57.000 apparitions of all sorts
01:03:57.940 of crazy things.
01:03:58.140 Why would the demons
01:03:58.660 be doing that?
01:04:00.020 Do they need vehicles
01:04:01.080 to get around?
01:04:01.500 Because the country is
01:04:02.960 becoming much more
01:04:03.740 vicious and evil.
01:04:05.560 I agree with that,
01:04:06.540 but so why are they
01:04:07.560 going for joy rides
01:04:08.320 in the sky?
01:04:09.180 Yeah, I don't know.
01:04:09.800 They're in the sky,
01:04:10.440 they're on the ground.
01:04:10.840 Why would aliens come
01:04:12.260 from millions of light
01:04:13.200 years away to take
01:04:13.840 a joy ride that
01:04:14.520 apparently crash in
01:04:15.320 the desert like aliens?
01:04:15.960 They're not taking
01:04:16.340 joy rides, they're
01:04:17.140 coming here to check
01:04:17.760 out what's going on.
01:04:18.600 Yeah.
01:04:18.840 Because it's crazy.
01:04:19.480 It's because it's
01:04:19.800 Poundtown.
01:04:20.240 It's a crazy town.
01:04:21.140 It is.
01:04:21.800 They wanted to see
01:04:22.420 Poundtown.
01:04:22.800 They did.
01:04:23.120 Okay, can I just
01:04:24.160 say one thing?
01:04:25.480 A wall-less, terrible
01:04:26.780 place.
01:04:28.440 The most likely scenario
01:04:29.780 is that there are
01:04:30.680 millions, like billions
01:04:32.460 of other civilizations
01:04:33.580 out there, okay,
01:04:34.760 given how vast the
01:04:36.160 universe is.
01:04:36.500 You're saying that's
01:04:37.020 likely?
01:04:37.840 Likely, yes.
01:04:38.660 Given the vastness
01:04:39.940 of the universe,
01:04:40.340 given the fact that
01:04:40.940 we live in a universe
01:04:41.480 with a hundred
01:04:42.040 billion galaxies.
01:04:43.520 It's like there's a
01:04:44.020 really big vacuum,
01:04:45.200 so there must be a
01:04:45.980 lot of stuff in the
01:04:46.560 big vacuum.
01:04:47.220 It's a vacuum with
01:04:48.120 zillions of planets
01:04:49.940 in it, okay?
01:04:51.240 So, given that,
01:04:52.920 just a numbers game,
01:04:54.040 I think it's very
01:04:54.600 likely that there are
01:04:55.780 countless civilizations,
01:04:57.780 and so it's likely
01:04:59.140 that we've been
01:04:59.680 visited many times.
01:05:01.340 So, even if I grant
01:05:02.900 you, this is my
01:05:03.400 problem, I can grant
01:05:04.300 you A, but I can't
01:05:04.820 grant you B.
01:05:06.020 Okay, meaning,
01:05:07.200 I would agree with
01:05:08.960 the probability is
01:05:10.820 that there are
01:05:11.080 other forms of
01:05:11.700 life on tons of
01:05:12.660 other planets.
01:05:13.660 I agree with that.
01:05:14.700 The notion that it
01:05:15.420 took the form of
01:05:16.080 intelligent life that
01:05:16.800 differed markedly from
01:05:17.760 the development of
01:05:18.280 human beings, I
01:05:18.820 actually, I have
01:05:19.820 questions about that
01:05:20.440 because I wonder
01:05:21.360 whether there are
01:05:21.780 really a lot of
01:05:22.340 other evolutionary
01:05:23.040 pathways to
01:05:24.320 intelligence, given
01:05:25.020 that there's only
01:05:25.880 one that we know
01:05:26.340 about and it looks
01:05:26.840 like us.
01:05:27.480 So, I'm wondering,
01:05:28.440 there's all sorts of
01:05:29.260 speculation about weird
01:05:30.420 lobster-looking creatures
01:05:31.660 that are super-duper
01:05:32.340 smart and fly
01:05:32.840 spaceships.
01:05:33.600 I'd like to see
01:05:34.300 some evidence.
01:05:35.240 We're pretty smart
01:05:36.020 and we fly spaceships,
01:05:36.780 so why shouldn't the
01:05:37.300 aliens look like us
01:05:38.080 would be one question.
01:05:38.920 But even if that
01:05:39.780 were the case,
01:05:40.640 let's assume for a
01:05:41.400 second that we're
01:05:41.760 in the mid-level of
01:05:42.680 sophistication.
01:05:43.560 We're not even
01:05:43.960 remotely close to
01:05:45.140 being able to travel
01:05:46.300 to other systems
01:05:47.780 where we can
01:05:48.520 experience other
01:05:49.480 civilizations.
01:05:50.160 What is the idea
01:05:50.920 that they have
01:05:51.300 somehow conquered
01:05:51.920 space and time?
01:05:52.720 Well, because there
01:05:53.180 are planets that have
01:05:53.680 been around billions
01:05:54.320 of years longer than
01:05:55.080 us.
01:05:55.460 And we're much
01:05:56.440 older than presumably
01:05:57.240 other civilizations
01:05:57.940 because all time is
01:05:58.540 relative.
01:05:58.960 Well, sure.
01:05:59.360 And there are
01:05:59.640 probably civilizations
01:06:00.260 that aren't
01:06:00.700 anywhere close to
01:06:01.420 us in advancement,
01:06:02.340 but most likely
01:06:02.920 there are many that
01:06:03.620 are well beyond us.
01:06:05.020 But why do you
01:06:07.740 think they would
01:06:08.060 be able to in
01:06:09.020 just a few short
01:06:10.420 billion years cross
01:06:11.440 these expanses
01:06:12.420 that we're talking
01:06:12.880 about?
01:06:13.140 Right.
01:06:13.400 It's inconceivable
01:06:14.060 to us, but you
01:06:14.720 also have to keep
01:06:15.200 in mind the 20th
01:06:15.820 century.
01:06:16.120 I mean, going into
01:06:16.540 the 20th century.
01:06:16.860 The universe is only
01:06:17.320 like five and a half
01:06:18.100 billion years old.
01:06:18.560 I know, but going
01:06:19.140 into the 20th century,
01:06:20.940 you know, you're
01:06:21.880 still at horse and
01:06:22.380 buggy.
01:06:22.960 So, and then very
01:06:26.400 shortly after that,
01:06:27.300 we're going to the
01:06:27.780 moon.
01:06:28.060 It is true.
01:06:28.440 I'm only half
01:06:29.560 joking.
01:06:29.720 Yeah, but then it's
01:06:30.140 all been downhill
01:06:30.860 since then.
01:06:31.580 I'm only half joking
01:06:32.420 when I observe that
01:06:33.740 the AI art programs
01:06:35.880 went, like, a month
01:06:38.320 ago, they couldn't do
01:06:39.740 hands.
01:06:40.400 Like, you'd put in
01:06:40.880 hands and it'd have
01:06:41.520 like 17 fingers and a
01:06:42.660 hot dog coming out of
01:06:43.400 them, and now they can
01:06:44.380 make, you know, car
01:06:45.140 Oh, should we talk
01:06:45.560 about AI?
01:06:46.060 That's happening so
01:06:46.220 fast.
01:06:46.840 Can we talk about AI?
01:06:47.420 We're still talking
01:06:49.820 about aliens.
01:06:50.180 We are not talking
01:06:50.900 about aliens.
01:06:51.520 We should talk about
01:06:52.300 AI.
01:06:52.720 AI is fascinating.
01:06:53.800 There is one other
01:06:54.440 topic.
01:06:54.880 Listen, I don't want to
01:06:55.660 interrupt our fanciful
01:06:56.680 musings on the
01:06:57.900 bazillions of aliens
01:06:59.480 out there trying to
01:07:00.260 invade us, but are we
01:07:02.000 entering into World
01:07:02.600 War III?
01:07:03.280 Is there a civil war
01:07:04.220 in Russia?
01:07:04.940 Apparently, Richard
01:07:05.260 Wagner almost took
01:07:06.440 over Russia.
01:07:07.060 Different Wagner,
01:07:08.040 different way.
01:07:08.980 Not the Ring
01:07:10.220 Cycle guy.
01:07:11.060 Not the Nazi-esque
01:07:12.560 Ring Cycle guy.
01:07:13.040 Yeah, I know.
01:07:13.480 A different Nazi-esque
01:07:14.420 weird guy, actually,
01:07:16.400 named Wagner.
01:07:17.160 This was my favorite
01:07:17.980 part of the whole
01:07:18.480 story.
01:07:19.000 So this guy,
01:07:19.720 Purgosian, with the
01:07:20.600 Wagner group, the
01:07:21.360 Wagner group, if you're
01:07:22.260 very sophisticated, goes
01:07:24.160 in, leads a march up to
01:07:25.560 Moscow.
01:07:25.960 He's really angry because
01:07:26.900 the Russian defense
01:07:28.020 minister, Shoigu, attacked
01:07:29.520 his paramilitary warlord
01:07:31.260 troop.
01:07:31.760 And so he's going to go up
01:07:32.500 there.
01:07:32.660 Now he's exiled to
01:07:33.380 Belarus.
01:07:33.720 I'm sure he'll be
01:07:34.160 totally fine, though.
01:07:35.040 Putin's a really
01:07:35.520 forgiving guy.
01:07:36.040 He's going to be found
01:07:36.880 having committed suicide by
01:07:38.000 hitting himself repeatedly
01:07:39.100 in the back of the head
01:07:39.680 with a tire iron.
01:07:40.800 By drinking a gallon of
01:07:42.560 and then, unfortunately,
01:07:44.020 being thrown by himself
01:07:45.000 off a four-story window
01:07:45.980 and then run over twice
01:07:47.460 by a car.
01:07:48.000 But my favorite part of
01:07:48.800 the story was, for a
01:07:50.140 brief, like, six or ten
01:07:51.320 hours, you had all these
01:07:52.520 liberals on Twitter and
01:07:53.860 on the internet, and they
01:07:55.240 were rooting for the
01:07:57.800 psycho Russian warlord to
01:07:59.960 take over the nuclear
01:08:01.140 form.
01:08:01.300 By the way, I have to say,
01:08:02.880 everything in Russia is so
01:08:03.780 stereotypically Russian.
01:08:04.700 It's pretty incredible.
01:08:05.920 This is a dude who ran
01:08:07.020 a hot dog stand and is
01:08:08.200 known as the chef.
01:08:09.520 That's so amazing.
01:08:10.860 He ran a hot dog.
01:08:11.860 He literally ran a hot
01:08:12.660 dog stand, and then he
01:08:13.280 became the chef by being
01:08:14.400 Putin's caterer because
01:08:15.420 Putin made him, like, one
01:08:16.280 of his oligarchs.
01:08:17.320 And then he created, like,
01:08:18.000 an entire paramilitary
01:08:18.780 system where he paid him
01:08:19.540 billions of dollars for
01:08:20.520 his paramilitary.
01:08:21.480 And then Putin was so
01:08:22.200 weak that he had to call
01:08:22.780 the Chechnians, right?
01:08:23.540 He was about to call the
01:08:24.060 Chechnians to defend
01:08:24.900 Moscow.
01:08:25.880 But here's the thing I
01:08:27.020 have a problem with
01:08:27.500 this coup.
01:08:28.140 Why don't you just send
01:08:28.600 an email?
01:08:29.120 It feels, like, really,
01:08:29.940 really, like, a lot.
01:08:31.300 Like, if I were just
01:08:35.360 mainly be like, you
01:08:36.160 know, he's a bad
01:08:36.920 secretary of defense.
01:08:38.160 Hit Sen, and then I'd
01:08:39.180 probably just go back to
01:08:40.040 ruling Syria and almost
01:08:41.220 all of Africa.
01:08:41.980 So instead, he was like,
01:08:43.140 you know what I'm going
01:08:43.580 to do?
01:08:43.920 I'm going to, in
01:08:45.160 ridiculous fashion, march
01:08:46.720 five minutes up the road
01:08:47.960 toward Moscow, and then
01:08:49.400 I'm going to not.
01:08:51.540 And I'll end up in
01:08:52.220 romantic Belarus.
01:08:53.420 There's an important
01:08:54.060 where I weigh radiation
01:08:54.980 poisoning.
01:08:55.600 It's like he was listening
01:08:56.540 or reading, like, Don
01:08:57.420 Quixote and was like,
01:08:58.300 this is my moment.
01:08:59.280 This is my time.
01:09:00.240 I'm going to go on my
01:09:01.240 hero's journey.
01:09:02.360 Until I don't.
01:09:03.320 Never mind.
01:09:03.960 There's great advice that
01:09:04.980 came out of The Wire,
01:09:06.380 which is, if you come
01:09:08.240 at the king, you best
01:09:09.420 not miss.
01:09:10.360 I can't imagine this
01:09:11.380 turns out very well for
01:09:12.380 Prigozhin and the
01:09:13.780 Wagner group.
01:09:14.520 But what does it mean?
01:09:15.200 Does it mean that Putin
01:09:15.960 is really weakened?
01:09:16.660 Does it mean he's going
01:09:17.180 to pull out of Ukraine?
01:09:18.120 Does it mean that this
01:09:18.900 war is ever going to
01:09:19.560 come to an end?
01:09:20.120 Does it mean that we're
01:09:20.900 going to enter into
01:09:21.320 World War III?
01:09:21.940 Like, my favorite part,
01:09:23.560 other than the joke of
01:09:24.440 the libs, you know,
01:09:25.460 rooting for this psycho
01:09:26.380 warlord, is nobody knows
01:09:28.300 a damn thing about
01:09:29.320 Russian politics.
01:09:30.420 Nobody seems to know.
01:09:31.780 Because he kills
01:09:32.180 everyone who, like, tries
01:09:33.340 to penetrate the shield
01:09:34.180 of Russian politics.
01:09:34.980 Like, literally everyone
01:09:35.800 dies.
01:09:36.260 You know how many
01:09:36.560 reporters being killed
01:09:37.180 over there?
01:09:37.960 I mean, it's insane.
01:09:39.460 I mean, they're currently
01:09:39.940 holding a Wall Street
01:09:40.540 Journal reporter, right?
01:09:41.260 I mean, like, this is
01:09:41.820 not a place you want to be.
01:09:43.900 So, is the war going to
01:09:46.380 end?
01:09:46.640 Probably not.
01:09:47.340 Because he has to keep
01:09:48.120 throwing people in that
01:09:48.720 meat grinder in the hopes
01:09:49.860 that eventually there will be
01:09:51.040 some sort of settlement.
01:09:52.640 Is the worst case scenario
01:09:54.620 him falling?
01:09:55.520 Quite possibly.
01:09:56.560 Because one of the things
01:09:57.260 that actually was exposed
01:09:57.960 here is that if he falls,
01:09:59.820 the most organized forces
01:10:00.720 in the country are
01:10:01.560 variously the Wagner group,
01:10:03.360 which is, like, psychotic.
01:10:05.140 And the Chechnyans.
01:10:05.780 And the Chechnyans.
01:10:06.820 So, that sounds great.
01:10:08.240 Having those two groups
01:10:09.080 fight over, you know,
01:10:10.700 2,500 nuclear weapons
01:10:12.020 sounds amazeballs.
01:10:13.540 That'll probably work out
01:10:14.360 amazing for everyone.
01:10:15.560 So, you know, listen,
01:10:16.820 Henry Kissinger, who's
01:10:17.640 been much maligned,
01:10:18.920 that he, his main rule is
01:10:20.920 avoid the least, avoid the
01:10:22.380 worst outcome.
01:10:23.240 Avoiding the worst outcome
01:10:23.980 is typically a fairly decent
01:10:26.020 way of doing foreign policy.
01:10:27.880 And the worst outcome
01:10:28.620 would probably be a giant
01:10:29.740 internal battle in Russia
01:10:30.780 involving people firing
01:10:32.040 weapons at each other
01:10:32.920 while there are 2,000
01:10:34.600 loose nukes.
01:10:35.340 That seems like the worst
01:10:36.120 available outcome.
01:10:36.960 Yeah.
01:10:37.300 This is where you see the
01:10:38.380 absurdity of Twitter the most,
01:10:39.620 I think, because, yeah,
01:10:41.220 I checked in with Twitter
01:10:42.100 when this was all going on
01:10:43.240 on Saturday morning,
01:10:44.440 and what I discovered is,
01:10:45.800 number one, everyone knows
01:10:47.420 everything about Russian
01:10:48.540 politics.
01:10:49.180 I was the only one, I said,
01:10:50.200 I don't know who this guy is.
01:10:51.120 Like, I don't know anything
01:10:51.740 about this.
01:10:52.320 I know.
01:10:52.660 I'm totally clueless about it.
01:10:53.860 I know nothing.
01:10:55.020 So, everyone knows
01:10:55.880 everything about it,
01:10:56.960 and it's the most
01:10:57.680 important thing ever.
01:10:59.460 And then you check back
01:11:00.400 24 hours later,
01:11:01.320 and no one cares anymore.
01:11:02.640 Bergosian who?
01:11:03.440 Yeah, exactly.
01:11:04.260 Bergosian who?
01:11:04.540 Makes amazing hot dogs.
01:11:05.820 This is, to me,
01:11:07.120 this is the one,
01:11:08.740 this is the best argument
01:11:09.940 for Trump, actually.
01:11:11.040 This is the one thing
01:11:11.920 that Trump supporters
01:11:13.580 in the primary say
01:11:14.300 that I basically agree with,
01:11:17.200 that I probably trust him
01:11:19.780 the most to not get us
01:11:20.860 involved in World War III.
01:11:22.400 Yep.
01:11:22.600 He had the most peaceful
01:11:24.320 foreign policy of any
01:11:25.260 president of mine.
01:11:25.660 Yeah, because I think
01:11:26.300 he just doesn't care.
01:11:27.060 I think he doesn't care
01:11:27.860 what's going on
01:11:28.420 in the rest of the world.
01:11:29.380 He doesn't want to get involved,
01:11:30.580 which is basically my position,
01:11:33.020 and it's the position
01:11:33.880 I want the president to have.
01:11:35.820 DeSantis I basically trust as well,
01:11:37.320 but we don't know enough
01:11:38.040 about his foreign policy.
01:11:39.460 We just don't.
01:11:40.320 We might talk more about it,
01:11:42.080 but not for all those
01:11:43.120 hoi polloi over there
01:11:43.940 on YouTube.
01:11:44.400 We're going to talk about it
01:11:45.080 in the member block.
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01:11:53.760 to talk about on YouTube.
01:11:54.900 You know what I'm talking about?
01:11:56.120 Like there's a guy.
01:11:57.640 Don't say it, Michael.
01:11:58.940 All right, I'm not going to,
01:11:59.820 but it's like a thing.
01:12:00.620 No, no, don't say it.
01:12:01.620 Give it away.
01:12:02.300 We all know what I'm talking about.
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