The Matt Walsh Show - Daily Wire Backstage State of the Union 2024 Coverage

00:00:00.000 Hey everybody, this is Matt Walsh. Drop everything you're doing and check out the latest episode of

00:00:03.720 Daily Wire backstage. You're going to hear Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan,

00:00:07.460 and yours truly, talking about all the important issues affecting you and your family.

00:00:11.060 You don't want to miss it, unless you're a leftist, in which case, you're cancelled.

00:00:30.000 Welcome to the Daily Wire's live coverage of the State of the Union.

00:00:42.000 Tonight I'm joined by two of the best-looking men in the business.

00:00:44.780 I don't want to say who, but I don't want to start no fights.

00:00:48.020 I'm your host, Jeremy Boring. We're glad to have you with us.

00:00:50.460 Before we get started, I want to remind you that all of our Daily Wire Plus members can submit questions,

00:00:55.420 and we will do our best to answer a lot of them in the back half of the show coming up after

00:00:59.660 the President's remark. That's right, it's that time of year again, the worst night of the year,

00:01:04.420 the night that the President stands up and goes on and on and on and on and on and on.

00:01:11.140 It doesn't really matter to me if it's a Republican President or a Democrat President.

00:01:14.360 People used to say, oh, Trump, it's going to be great. It was not great.

00:01:17.500 The State of the Union is one of the worst things that happens in American public life.

00:01:21.540 That's why we joined together, so that you can suffer right here with us.

00:01:25.020 The only thing that makes tonight's State of the Union somewhat more bearable to me is that while

00:01:28.800 we're here suffering it with whiskey and Mayflower cigars and whatever it is that Ben's allowed to eat

00:01:34.940 according to his religion, Michael Knowles is actually there in person.

00:01:38.740 I know, I know.

00:01:39.300 He's suffering in an actual seat.

00:01:40.960 He's gone and his cigars are here. It's perfect.

00:01:42.960 It's the best use of Michael.

00:01:44.240 He totally deserves this.

00:01:46.260 Good for him. He's finally getting what he deserves.

00:01:48.580 Here's a little clip that Michael sent us from the event itself.

00:01:51.720 Hey, gents. Sorry that I can't be with you all.

00:01:55.240 That's actually not true at all. I'm very glad I can't be with you all because I'm here

00:01:57.860 at the Capitol with Congressman Andy Ogles, who very kindly invited me here for the State

00:02:03.040 of the Union. So you jerks can all watch it on camera.

00:02:06.660 But, you know, we'll be here for the real thing.

00:02:08.820 Andy, you just gave me a very important button on one of the biggest issues facing the country

00:02:13.680 right now.

00:02:14.080 Well, every small town in America, every town in America is a border town because of Joe Biden

00:02:18.660 and his failed policies. And so you have the results of Lake and Riley and so many others

00:02:22.420 that have now come forward in the news of the assaults and the rapes and the murders

00:02:26.940 and the burglaries at the hands of an illegal at the feet. You can lay this at the feet of

00:02:30.500 Joe Biden.

00:02:31.140 Bring up Reagan's line. Are you better now than you were three years ago? And virtually

00:02:34.900 any measure, that is not the case. So we'll see how the president can possibly spin this

00:02:39.740 tonight. You know, one is hard pressed to think of even one area that has improved or

00:02:45.160 even remained status quo under his tenure. So we'll see what he can do, if he can even

00:02:49.940 stay awake for the speech. And then we'll speak to you afterward.

00:02:56.260 That's Michael Knowles at the Capitol for the event. Probably the greatest night of his

00:03:01.180 life, honestly. If any of us were going to have to go to this thing, who would love it

00:03:05.540 more than Michael, who is an actual political creature?

00:03:08.600 Again, he totally deserves it. Anybody who enjoys it should be there.

00:03:11.780 Yeah, that's right.

00:03:12.740 Because not only is it the worst night just because the president talks like a dumbass

00:03:16.060 for a thousand years and lists all the things he's not going to do, but he's going to yell

00:03:20.240 at you about. But also, it's just a monarchic, anti-constitutional spectacle. You have the

00:03:24.900 president of the United States descending among the various legislators who all ooh and ah

00:03:30.220 over him and rush to grip and grin and take a picture with him and make kissy face. And

00:03:34.280 then he's like, right over there in the corner, there's old Bob. Bob was a plumber during

00:03:38.740 World War II. Ten up, Bob. No, no, no, no, no.

00:03:41.840 He claps. I have it on good authority that Bob will not be there tonight and that every

00:03:46.020 single person the president points out will be there to advocate for slaughtering innocent

00:03:50.320 babies.

00:03:50.840 Oh, that's even better. That's even better.

00:03:52.300 I actually think that's true tonight.

00:03:53.700 No, that's right. He's big into the abortion talk. And so it's all of that. And then half

00:03:58.720 the crowd stands up half the time, half the crowd sits down half the time, and every

00:04:02.160 so often you have Nancy Pelosi rip something up in the background. And that's pretty much the

00:04:04.620 night. It's garbage.

00:04:05.160 The painful part for me is the press. The press has now gone so far. You know, I thought I

00:04:09.700 was inured to it. I thought I'd gotten used to it. And then I saw Joe Scarborough saying

00:04:14.360 that Biden was, this was the best Biden ever.

00:04:17.280 So first of all, can I just say, Joe Scarborough now looks exactly like Waldo from Where's Waldo?

00:04:21.560 So we've answered at least one important question.

00:04:24.280 Where is Waldo?

00:04:24.880 Where is Waldo?

00:04:25.460 In the MSNBC set.

00:04:26.860 But I just thought, like, what has to happen to you before you can speak those words?

00:04:31.520 F you, he said, if you don't agree that this is, this guy is on point. He's alpha. He's

00:04:37.680 really, it was the, it was the SNL routine come to life. And I just can't, what Noel said,

00:04:43.780 I hate to admit it, but Noel said something true, but he's, he's right. There's no area

00:04:47.700 of American life that's better since Biden took office that he has any control over. And

00:04:52.700 yet, you know, for the next two days, we're going to be listening to actual journalists wearing,

00:04:58.200 who can dress themselves, wearing ties and dresses and looking like respectable people,

00:05:03.360 lying about everything that just happened.

00:05:05.480 Well, Ben and I had a conversation today with a journalist who is asking us about why Gina

00:05:11.620 Carano won't consent to being vaccinated if she, she, she purportedly wants to get back

00:05:17.200 into the movie business, but she's unwilling to get vaccinated, which is now the industry

00:05:20.860 standard in Hollywood. And this, and this guy, it was a wonderful conversation we had with

00:05:25.020 him. I'm sure he's on the other side, but it wasn't hostile in any way, but he brought

00:05:29.180 this up as an, and he was actually, he said, God, I literally don't understand. I do not

00:05:34.140 understand. I can't square it. She says that what she wants is to be back in the movies,

00:05:37.380 but she, but she won't do the thing. The only impediment is getting vaccinated. Why won't

00:05:42.540 she just get vaccinated? Please? I genuinely don't understand. And I thought, yeah, I know you

00:05:48.220 don't understand because you're, you live in such a bubble. The left has built, you know,

00:05:53.620 they're against walls ostensibly, but they have built walls between them and us such

00:05:59.380 that they don't even understand how we think. I'm not saying that he would agree if he knew

00:06:03.640 how we think, but you would, you would imagine that he would at least understand the basic

00:06:07.740 premise of what it is. I have to tell you, I spent this week in New York and I was talking

00:06:11.120 to a lot of publishing people and a lot of stuff about my work and all this stuff. And they,

00:06:15.400 they're the same way. They're like, well, you can compromise here and you can cut this

00:06:18.320 out and you could do, and I keep saying to him, I can't because it's not like I disagree

00:06:22.700 with woke a little bit. I think woke is evil. I think you guys are the bad guys. So it's kind

00:06:27.300 of like saying, you know, you could just put a nice thing about Hitler here, you know, and

00:06:31.160 actually, you know, a nice thing about Mao. But this speaks to, I think, one of the things

00:06:34.120 that's happened to Biden. So when Biden took office, he had about a 55, 60% approval rating

00:06:38.120 and he came into office as a supposed moderate. He was somebody who's going to unify the country

00:06:42.000 and govern from the center left, right? He won the entire race on the basis of not being

00:06:46.180 Bernie Sanders on the one hand and not being Donald Trump on the other. And so he enters

00:06:49.860 office and that's sort of the basis of his entire administration. And very quickly he

00:06:54.460 shifts into, I'm going to be FDR. And that means I'm going to swivel to the radical left

00:06:58.100 and I'm going to make myself subject to every single thing the radical left wants of me.

00:07:02.360 And I'm just going to keep pandering to the radical left. The problem is there aren't that

00:07:05.420 many radical leftists. And so what has actually happened is that the reason he's doing poorly

00:07:09.420 in the polls is not just because his base is unenthused about him. It's because independents

00:07:13.680 do not like him. Moderates do not like him. I've been saying this for weeks at this

00:07:17.660 point. Joe Biden is not the moderate in this race. Donald Trump is the moderate in this race.

00:07:21.860 If you look at him positionally on every single issue, Donald Trump has now taken the center of

00:07:26.280 the political spectrum. That includes issues where we all disagree with him, right? On abortion,

00:07:30.020 for example, he might argue for, say, a 16-week federal abortion ban, which is way too late for

00:07:34.620 any of us. But for sort of the median American voter, that's a lot closer than Joe Biden, who's

00:07:38.820 saying abortion up to a point of birth by every available poll. About 48 percent of Americans,

00:07:42.480 according to Gallup, support a 16-week abortion ban. Only 24 percent of Americans want abortion

00:07:46.760 available all the way up to birth. The rest want more restrictions than that. So that's

00:07:51.060 not Biden's position. That's Trump's position. When you look at the Middle East, the crazies

00:07:56.960 in Dearborn, Michigan, who are dictating to Joe Biden that he needs to be somehow putting

00:08:02.080 pressure on Israel to stop the killing of members of Hamas, that is not where the median

00:08:07.140 American voter is. The median American voter is in one of two places. Either I don't want

00:08:10.680 to hear about it anymore and don't care, which is totally understandable. Or I like Israel

00:08:14.540 more than Hamas. The number of people in America who like Hamas more than Israel is

00:08:17.060 minuscule. I mean, truly minuscule. And those are the people that Joe Biden is catering

00:08:20.920 to in the middle of this entire fight. In fairness, every one of the people in America

00:08:24.120 who prefers Hamas to Israel is currently blocking the presidential route between the White House

00:08:29.540 and the Capitol. I'm not making this up. All 17 to 18 of them are actually attempting

00:08:34.960 to impede President Biden's approach to the Capitol. And he's such a weakling that he won't

00:08:39.280 actually just say to the cops, OK, move everybody. Move them. Right. He'll just leave

00:08:42.580 him there. It'll be four hours from now and we'll be sitting here. Yeah. Look at these

00:08:45.800 morons. One of the things we miss, I think, because we pay attention to the news, is most

00:08:51.260 people are so taken with appearances. I talk to I talk to Democrats all the time who say,

00:08:56.120 you know, the Democrat Party has gone too far, but they still believe in Joe Biden because

00:09:00.060 he looks like that guy who used to be the moderate. I mean, I've always detest the guy.

00:09:05.140 I've always hated him. I think he's corrupt. I think he's mean. I think he's small.

00:09:08.500 People forget he gave us our dear friend Andrew Breitbart, who would just mark the 12th year

00:09:14.940 since Breitbart's death. Breitbart became a conservative in essence because of Joe Biden.

00:09:21.260 That's right. Because of Clarence Thomas.

00:09:22.500 And the other thing about Biden, first of all, I just want to say that I feel right at home

00:09:26.920 because the start to this broadcast has been so negative and cynical. It's like, it's great.

00:09:31.860 Yeah. The other thing about Biden, though, he's he's the radical in the race. He also,

00:09:38.760 you know, what I think people are starting to finally realize about him is that

00:09:42.760 he really hates the American people. And that's not just like a slogan. He actually does.

00:09:50.140 This is always one of the distinctions between Trump and Biden, because Trump has the reputation

00:09:54.240 of, you know, attacking people and going after people. But Trump always goes after

00:09:58.020 the media. He goes after celebrities. He goes after politicians. He goes after world leaders.

00:10:02.980 Trump never attacks people. He never attacks just like the American people. But that's exactly

00:10:08.420 what Biden does. And I would look for that. That's one thing to look for in this in a State

00:10:12.060 of Union address is when does he start going after the MAGA Republicans? Because that's his favorite

00:10:16.080 phrase now. MAGA Republican means just people who vote for Trump.

00:10:20.780 That's right.

00:10:21.260 And that's that's, you know, that's tens of millions of Americans.

00:10:23.820 Well, it's another distinction that they don't understand on the left that I always get a kick out of.

00:10:27.940 Anytime a reporter writes something negative about Ben and I, they refer to us as MAGA

00:10:32.160 Republicans or alt-right. Four years ago, it was alt-right. Now it's MAGA Republicans. It's like,

00:10:37.900 you don't understand that no one hates Ben more than the alt-right. And neither of us are MAGA

00:10:42.960 Republicans. Although, listen, Donald Trump's the nominee and I'm happy.

00:10:46.420 We both voted for him in 2020. We'll both vote for him again.

00:10:48.720 That's right. But the left has blinded itself. But, you know, the truth is that politics has just

00:10:54.640 rotted all of our brains to the point that we can't see distinctions. One of the things I've

00:10:58.500 been amused by all week is that when I talk to people on the left and when I talk to people on

00:11:02.880 the right at the moment, they both tell me this is the most important election of our lifetime.

00:11:07.220 They both tell me our democracy itself is on the line. And so to confront this existential threat,

00:11:13.420 both parties have elevated men who will either one of them be the oldest man ever elected to

00:11:18.160 president, both of whom presided over large chunks of the worst failure of our government in the history of

00:11:23.300 the republic, which is the response to COVID-19, both of whom are obviously diminished, although

00:11:29.680 one of them way more than the other, more obviously diminished. And both sides are going,

00:11:36.560 I can't believe you would vote for that other guy. Can't you see how old and corrupt and out of touch?

00:11:42.440 Well, what that shows me is that we are so convinced that our politics are so important

00:11:51.360 that we're willing to overlook sort of the log in our own eye to a large degree. And so both

00:11:58.180 parties are in this position of thinking that the other not only is evil, which is, that's one

00:12:03.820 conversation, but out of their minds for actually elevating the person whom they're elevating.

00:12:10.120 I think, to be fair, one of the things I've been talking about repeatedly on my show is I really

00:12:14.400 do believe that we're watching the end of, really of my generation, of two failed ideas. One is the

00:12:22.600 great society, which has been a complete and utter failure, but it has fed money and power into the

00:12:27.620 Democrat party, which is why they keep amping up the charges of racism against individuals and now the

00:12:32.840 entire nation to deflect from the fact that really this stuff needs to be gotten rid of. And that's

00:12:38.780 Joe Biden. He embodies that failure. And the other is the failure of movement conservatism,

00:12:43.220 the idea that we're somehow going to repeal the great society and maybe even dial back the New

00:12:47.340 Deal and bring back a rebirth of freedom. Donald Trump, as you say, is not a conservative. He looks

00:12:53.380 like a conservative. He talks like a conservative. He gestures like a conservative, but the stuff coming

00:12:57.920 out of his mouth isn't conservatism. And I think the reason that nobody can see what's happening is

00:13:02.180 nobody knows what comes next. Nobody's actually talking in the way I think they should be talking in big

00:13:07.700 theoretical terms about what exactly the new movement, the new conservatism looks like.

00:13:13.180 I've been talking to 25-year-olds and listening to a lot of their podcasts. And, you know, it's

00:13:17.440 frightening. It sounds a little bit like Knowles, you know. It sounds a little bit like this kind of

00:13:21.860 proto-authoritarianism, this idea that this guy Bukele, what a great guy, you know, he suspended

00:13:27.260 constitutional rights and got rid of the gangsters. He is a good guy, though. In that country, he did the

00:13:32.460 right thing. But I'm afraid that they like the suspension of rights more than they like the

00:13:36.600 cleaning up of the gangsters. That's what bothers me. It's not the individual situation. It's the

00:13:42.580 idea. What are they cheering? Are they cheering the arrests of the gangsters?

00:13:45.060 Well, I think, I mean, not to get off on a tangent, but in his case, they're cheering a leader

00:13:49.720 who cares about the safety and security of his people and will do what's necessary to secure that

00:13:55.660 safety and to make their lives better. Because that's, you know, it's like a radical concept in

00:14:00.180 this country, but your leaders are supposed to make your life better. They're supposed to make it,

00:14:03.200 you know, easier for you to live and raise a family. And, and, but, but doing that requires

00:14:08.560 you to do ugly. It's, it's, it's ugly. It requires you to do ugly things sometimes.

00:14:11.760 I can see the point in the case of Bukele. I just think a lot of people cheering him or

00:14:15.400 cheering the suspension of the constitution more than the, what you just said.

00:14:18.100 Well, so I think, I think that the, the key proviso, I would just add to what you're saying,

00:14:21.640 and obviously I agree with it, is with minimum possible force. Meaning that the, the idea that you

00:14:27.340 should use the means necessary in order to secure the safety and security of your people,

00:14:30.860 but using the minimum amount of government compulsion you have to do in order to achieve

00:14:35.600 that is a different thing from saying that the government requires vast overarching powers in

00:14:41.320 order to constantly do that thing. And so the idea of, you know, for example, if, if Bukele was doing

00:14:47.180 what he's doing as an emergency power, I think most people are, are, are okay with that. Like on the

00:14:52.120 normal person level. And the question is in the United States, what kind of powers are we talking

00:14:55.700 about delegating to government for how long and how broad? When it comes to the movement

00:14:58.800 conservatism point, I would agree with you, except I, I, I feel, you know, like the, the no true

00:15:03.420 Scotsman communist here. I would, I would agree with you, except I don't think movement

00:15:06.400 conservatism has ever been tried. There's never been a candidate in my lifetime running for

00:15:10.080 president of the United States who vowed to actually seriously tackle things like the deficit,

00:15:15.420 vowed to seriously tackle things like the great society program. George W. Bush increased spending.

00:15:19.960 He campaigned as a compassionate conservative. In 1996, Bob Dole was not campaigning as a

00:15:24.720 slash and burn government guy. In 1992, George H. W. Bush was not campaigning as a slash and burn

00:15:29.400 government guy. In fact, even Ronald Reagan was not a slash and burn government guy. He talked like

00:15:33.200 it, but he actually was not. He wildly expanded government expenditures under his reign. So, you

00:15:37.460 know, the idea that what comes next might be something that looks like, say for another looking

00:15:41.160 south of the border again, something like Javier Mille on the right, that would not be a bad thing.

00:15:45.580 Like Javier Mille coming in and just vastly cutting programs. I'm totally in favor of that. The big

00:15:49.940 question for me tonight, you know, getting back to Joe Biden and away from South America. The big

00:15:54.420 question for me is, of course, whether Joe Biden is capable of remaining conscious or whether he's

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00:17:07.020 starts right now. So, yeah, I mean, the truth is hovering over all of the political talk is the simple fact

00:17:13.280 that most Americans vote based on who they just like when they get into the voting booth.

00:17:17.300 And who's taller. Well, yeah, that's who. And money. It is amazing to me. I think that the

00:17:23.440 Democrats really thought that everybody would just ignore the fact that Joe Biden is no longer

00:17:26.260 sentient. Everybody knows that's the underlying question of tonight is whether they're going to

00:17:29.520 have to break out the defibrillators. The only question is how serious the health crisis will be.

00:17:36.280 You know, I'm sure there are over-under bets on how long he will pause during the speech to

00:17:40.740 regain it. If somebody, you can end his presidency tonight if you unplug the teleprompter. If you

00:17:46.100 unplug the teleprompter, dude is toast. Because he will just start me, that's what, oh, my rosary.

00:17:53.820 It's just handing out Werther's Originals. There's only one way I truly think, honestly,

00:18:00.320 that he can save the speech tonight. That's to reach into the podium and get one of these.

00:18:03.880 And may the force be with you. May the force be with you. We're not going to explain that at all?

00:18:16.680 Nope. That's not the way of our show. We make obscure jokes. Fine, we'll explain the joke.

00:18:20.680 Okay, for those who haven't seen. No, what are you going to explain the show?

00:18:22.420 Because it's a great clip and so we have to show it. Okay, fine. So this went viral in 2003 in Chile.

00:18:27.800 We're back south of the border in Chile. They ran Star Wars A New Hope on TV and they did not tell

00:18:34.040 the advertisers that they were not allowed to do this. So the advertisers just did something unique

00:18:38.500 with Cerveza Cristal. And so we bring you this masterpiece.

00:18:43.440 You fought in the Clone Wars? Yes. I was once a Jedi Knight, the same as your father.

00:18:49.080 I wish I'd known him. He was the best star pilot in the galaxy. And a cunning warrior. I understand

00:19:00.200 you've become quite a good pilot yourself. And he was a good friend. Which reminds me, I have something

00:19:10.380 here for you. Your father wanted you to have this when you were old enough.

00:19:23.500 I just say, when I watch that, I'm reminded by, I'm reminded about how bad the writing and acting

00:19:28.040 in Star Wars is. God bless it, Matt. It really is. It doesn't hold up at all. I'm not trying to be

00:19:34.380 controversial. I'm just saying. It's not true at all. It's not even remotely true. Ben, because you

00:19:38.440 watched it. No, my kids watch it. When was the first time you saw Star Wars? I don't know,

00:19:42.300 seven maybe? Exactly. You have a nostalgic attachment to it. If you wait like I did and

00:19:46.460 you watch it the first time when you're like 25, you go, like, this is Star Wars? This is what

00:19:50.900 everyone's freaking out about? I have to tell you, this is the one opinion of Matt's I agree with

00:19:55.400 100%. You do? You do agree? Of course you do, because you thought the talkies would never last.

00:20:01.300 By the way, you want to know something funny? Alec Guinness in that movie is 56.

00:20:03.980 Is he? Yeah. He's born in 1914. Every time I watch him, I think he's such an intelligent

00:20:09.140 actor, he must be thinking, I hope the paycheck for this is very good because I'm making a fool

00:20:13.760 of myself in time. They're not Americans. Are you going to defend the actor? I never thought

00:20:19.340 I'd want Michael. You think Mark Hamill? Okay, Mark Hamill's indefensible, but I will say

00:20:27.300 that Alec Guinness is great in everything, and he's great in this. And Harrison Ford is iconic,

00:20:34.920 he is. I mean, you want to talk about the greatest run? Sorry, Alec Guinness was 50, let's see,

00:20:39.820 he was 63. Anyway. You don't have to defend Star Wars to these bozos. It's one of the most

00:20:46.260 successful films of all time. Successful, no question about that. And it deserves it. No,

00:20:51.560 no, no, it destroyed the movie industry. It destroyed the movie industry? Yeah, yeah. In what way?

00:20:55.820 That's an interesting take. That's a stupid take. Because the IQ of movies before Star Wars was up

00:21:00.620 around 140. After Star Wars, the movie industry is not, the movies are now 90, you know,

00:21:06.480 What are you talking about? I like that take. I'm going to take that take. Can I take that take?

00:21:09.780 That's a stupid take. It's just a little, you know, copyright on it.

00:21:12.580 The IQ of the movie industry started to really wreck itself during Marvel era. Okay? That's late,

00:21:18.620 but it's really during Marvel era. No, but this created the Marvel era. This created the place

00:21:23.140 This is 30 years before. No, no, no. 77. It took a long time for the cancer to reach through the

00:21:30.180 entire body. I mean, now, go back and watch, like, the worst B movie made in 1948, and the

00:21:37.100 intelligence level is so far above Star Wars, and the depth of feeling and humanity. People now think

00:21:43.120 that there are good guys. Yes, but there was a decade called the 60s, and the movies sucked. And then

00:21:46.780 there was a decade called the 70s, and most of the movies, except for anything made by Francis

00:21:50.100 Ford Coppola, sucked. Okay? And then you got Star Wars, and it saved the movie industry, because

00:21:54.040 literally there wouldn't be a movie industry. Well, it saved the movie industry by turning it into a

00:21:57.280 stupid... Amadeus won Best Picture three years after this. I'm so glad I brought this up. I'm so glad I

00:22:02.300 brought it up, and also, yeah, that's a great take. It's absolutely true. I mean, I used to come, when we

00:22:07.860 were just starting the Daily Wire, I used to come in, and you guys would be arguing whether Spider-Man was

00:22:13.020 really dead or not, and I would think, like, how old are these guys? These people, these people are

00:22:17.900 over 12. I know, he's talking about, like, Austin and Mathis would be arguing about it, and he's

00:22:22.240 blaming us. I know. Because from his vantage, we all look the same, and by we, I mean anyone

00:22:27.400 under 60. I used to yell at you about it, because you were doing, you would sit there, I remember you

00:22:33.220 sitting there yelling at people. I felt like, who cares? He's a guy in a costume. Spider-Man?

00:22:38.800 Spider-Man. I know. What are you talking about? Yeah, it was some movie where he died, and you

00:22:43.720 were explaining to somebody that he had to come back in the next film. Okay. I'm sorry. Okay, I can't

00:22:48.340 believe these... You know, people tell me conversations that I've had with other people, and I can't

00:22:51.840 believe that I've had those conversations with other people, so I just don't believe that... I'm not, I'm just

00:22:55.600 not going to defend Star Wars. Star Wars doesn't... It requires no defense. Star Wars requires no defense.

00:23:00.560 Except for Kathleen Kennedy. I will say this. Except for Kathleen Kennedy. Well, the real problem with Star Wars now, too,

00:23:04.760 if you waited a long time to watch it, is that it's almost impossible to actually see the original

00:23:09.360 trilogy without all of the self-destructive additions that were made later, that I think

00:23:16.060 Lucas did on purpose. I think he had a sort of subconscious need to destroy the original

00:23:21.120 trilogy, so that, because he did not direct Empire or Jedi. Empire is one of the great movies

00:23:26.980 ever made. That's right. And I think that after he did write and direct the prequels, he needed

00:23:33.120 to go back and make the original trilogy much worse, so that people would quit saying,

00:23:38.420 you're ruining Star Wars. So he actually rewrote your, even your memory of Star Wars to make

00:23:44.120 it as bad as his prequels were. I mean, my biggest problem with Star Wars was always that this

00:23:49.760 is supposed to be highly advanced technology that can go the speed of light, and they're

00:23:54.580 using essentially swords, like glowing swords. Like, that's never... That repel laser is,

00:24:01.060 my friend. But even so, it just doesn't make sense with all the other technology that that's

00:24:07.000 the weapon you're using. It's a glowing sword. That's actually a good point, too. I'm sorry.

00:24:11.260 Why is that a good point? That's a terrible point. Anyway, well, you know, we can talk Star Wars

00:24:16.680 all night, but let's talk about the old man who might die tonight. So anyway...

00:24:20.080 He's sitting right here.

00:24:21.160 Exactly. So I want to speak to that. I think Biden's going to do a great job tonight.

00:24:26.420 I mean, obviously, I hate the State of the Union. I think every word he's going to say is a

00:24:29.060 lie. But I think the performance will not be what everyone thinks it is. I think we

00:24:33.380 always think... We always go into these things thinking that the performance is going to be

00:24:37.600 bad. In fact, during Trump, people thought the same thing. Oh, he's so blustery and bumbling,

00:24:42.380 and he's going to get up there, and it's going to be awful. But it's not true. They get up there.

00:24:45.420 It's a very controlled environment. They're reading from the teleprompter. Their side bails

00:24:50.060 them out and claps for them anytime there's any sign of trouble. I think that it's actually

00:24:53.880 a very hard forum to fail in. I think that we, on the right, correctly observe, of course,

00:25:00.620 that Biden is very old, too old to be president, and diminished. But I think that we sort of assume

00:25:06.180 that he's more diminished than he is. And when you actually put him up on that stage in front

00:25:10.220 of a teleprompter and pump a bunch of heroin into it, he's going to do a fine. He'll do fine.

00:25:15.180 Well, so here's where I disagree. And I don't think it's possible for him to do fine. The reason I say

00:25:19.080 that is because I'm going to use the Roger Ailes before all the bad stuff about Roger Ailes came

00:25:22.740 out test. Okay, and the Roger Ailes test was... Can he twirl? Yeah, exactly. Can he twirl?

00:25:29.680 The answer is no, he can't. He can not twirl. No, but the actual test that he used to determine

00:25:33.540 whether somebody was good on TV or not is he would mute the TV. So if he was watching a news program

00:25:37.680 and he wanted to determine if somebody should be an anchor or not, he would watch them and he would

00:25:40.460 mute the TV and see if he was still interested in watching the TV, which is actually quite a good test

00:25:43.860 because TV is a visual medium. Well, the thing about Joe Biden is that if you mute the TV,

00:25:49.080 he looks like absolute death warmed over. He looks awful. He looks so much worse than he did

00:25:55.040 even four years ago. It's astonishing. The amount of decline that he has undergone... I'm not even

00:25:58.680 talking about like how often he slurs his words or reaches for a word that he can't find or starts

00:26:03.020 bumbling basic facts like who is the president of Mexico and who is the president of Egypt.

00:26:06.440 I'm talking about just looking at him as a physical specimen of a human being.

00:26:10.300 I know people who are 81, who are in significantly better shape than Joe Biden, like far, far better

00:26:15.380 shape than Joe Biden. He has undergone a steep decline. And so the very possibility...

00:26:19.060 So when you look at him, if you don't see Kamala Harris lurking in the background,

00:26:22.280 you're doing it wrong because that dude is not... Trump is in much better shape,

00:26:25.900 but Trump is also diminished. He is diminished. He is not 2016 Donald Trump.

00:26:29.500 He's not, but they've done everything they could possibly do to him to destroy him. And he's kind

00:26:34.260 of amazing. He's still making jokes. Well, he's preserved his life energy by eating cheeseburgers

00:26:39.020 and never exercising. Amazing. Peter O'Toole said the only exercise he gets is carrying the coffins of

00:26:44.820 people who exercise. Also, the delta between 2016 Trump and 2024 Trump is not nearly the delta

00:26:53.540 between... And that's the real question. It's not that... Of course, he's diminished, but he was

00:26:58.860 starting from a point where he was a stand-up comedian who makes funny jokes, and you weren't

00:27:02.440 expecting him to deliver a disquisition on the future of Iraq or something. You weren't expecting

00:27:07.160 that if you watched from Joe Biden either, but that's what Joe Biden held himself up to be.

00:27:09.860 Joe Biden always thought of himself as this sort of senatorial demosthenes, right? He was going to

00:27:14.560 be out there just speaking pearls of wisdom and speaking fluently and smoothly with the gift of

00:27:19.800 gab and all that. Like, Donald Trump has always spoken in short declarative sentences with about

00:27:25.080 a fourth-grade vocation. That's not a rip on him. It's one of the reasons he's a successful

00:27:27.900 communicator. Because of that, it hides a myriad of sins. It's not as though he's a guy searching

00:27:32.940 for the word myriad, right? Like, he's not going to be doing that, right?

00:27:36.160 I'm not trying, yeah.

00:27:36.560 He's, like, the only thing that he's searching for is whether to use dumb or stupid, or great

00:27:43.800 or magnificent, right? Those are the big puzzles. So when he has a brain fart for a moment,

00:27:49.540 it also just fits well within his oeuvre, right? That's what he does. Like, okay, fine.

00:27:54.100 I agree he's diminished. I do have to say...

00:27:56.240 He can barely walk. When he does... Him walking... I swear, when he walks down the steps here,

00:27:59.840 they're going to be so careful about him walking down, steps in the ramp down here.

00:28:04.340 Yeah, that's why. Actually, you know, there has not been a State of the Union that mattered in my

00:28:09.920 entire lifetime. And generally, they're forgotten within...

00:28:14.420 A week.

00:28:14.840 Within, really, the next day, you know what I'm talking about. This does have the chance to

00:28:18.740 actually be a State of the Union that will matter politically if there's a moment like that,

00:28:22.000 if he slips and falls, if he has a really bad brain fart-type moment. It does have the chance of

00:28:27.080 actually being a significant State of the Union for that reason. I just don't think we'll actually

00:28:29.920 get that. I think that this is... I think that if you set yourself up to think you're about to see

00:28:34.460 Joe Biden fail, that you're probably setting yourself up to fail. We're seeing some footage

00:28:39.380 here now of the Supreme Court justices entering the House chamber. And you may notice that all of

00:28:46.320 the Democrat senators and female senators and congresswomen are wearing white. And that's to show

00:28:53.020 that they stand with the people who rip babies out of the wombs. Wouldn't it be red? I'm sorry.

00:28:57.700 You know, they don't say white long in that line of work. Yeah, props, by the way, here to Samuel

00:29:02.820 Alito, who never shows up for this. Yes. So every year, Samuel Alito's like, we're a co-equal branch

00:29:06.600 of government. I'm not doing this stupid nonsense. And then he doesn't show up. And cheers to Samuel

00:29:10.460 Alito because that is precisely... I don't see Clarence Thomas there either. Yeah. I mean, when was the last

00:29:16.260 time Joe Biden spoke on camera for more than 20 minutes live? When he gave that rousing...

00:29:23.060 Fascist, independent... Fascist, independent state speech. Oh, that was great. I love that. Hellraiser

00:29:27.120 too, right? Yeah. Speaking of Star Wars, he literally looked like he was... I mean, it was Palpatine in

00:29:31.480 the throne. It was Palpatine, yeah. It was pretty wonderful. You know, to go back to Trump for a

00:29:37.220 minute, though, I have to say the stuff they have done to him, I believe that every indictment against

00:29:42.140 him, though not everyone is untrue, some of them are... They're all unfair. And they're

00:29:48.540 obviously lawfare. They're obviously political. Of course, yeah. And he is, like, still, like,

00:29:53.820 upbeat. And you can see... Why wouldn't he be? He's winning. I know, but it's real. Like,

00:29:58.100 even if they put you through that and you were winning, wouldn't it beat you down a little

00:30:01.940 bit? You know, he's like, he's having a time in his life. Okay, so here's my problem with

00:30:05.600 this. I don't know what that means. Him being grumpy is a form of upbeat. Right. Like, really,

00:30:11.280 what's he... I mean, pugnacious is what you're looking for. Donald Trump does not have a mode

00:30:16.200 where he's in, like, mourning and self-reflection. Right. That mode does not exist in the spring.

00:30:19.980 Yes, that's right. And so if you attack him, him being pugnacious is just the norm. But he

00:30:23.580 doesn't even have a mode where he feels, like, beaten. It's like, it's... I'm sorry, but it's

00:30:28.200 moving, you know? It's kind of like when they say, oh, you've got to pay half a billion dollars.

00:30:32.140 And he's like, oh, corrupt guy. I'm going to take him down. I'm kind of thinking, like,

00:30:36.180 you go get him, buddy, you know? I mean, listen, I agree with all of that. Also, I just don't wish to

00:30:40.900 attribute... It's like when people say, oh, he did an amazing job fighting cancer. And it's like,

00:30:44.000 what else is he going to do? Surrender? I mean, like, what are his choices here? I mean,

00:30:47.880 he's running for president. Don't even catch him in a candid moment, like, staring at his shoes,

00:30:52.620 thinking, you know, like, I could go to prison. Listen, he's a high-energy dude. And the fact

00:30:56.100 that he's a high-energy dude is the reason why he is such a contrast with Biden. Because by all rights,

00:31:02.240 he should be running 10 points behind Biden, regardless of what Biden is doing as president,

00:31:05.300 given all the things that he's been hit with. Yep. And given the fact that, you know,

00:31:08.180 he lost the last election, and now he's running again against the same guy. Yeah. And yet...

00:31:12.960 And yet, there he is. I mean, he's ahead in virtually all the swing states. And the New

00:31:17.680 York Times is saying things like, well, one conviction, and he'll be over it. One conviction,

00:31:21.760 he'll be elected in the last line. Yeah, one conviction, he'll be president of the world.

00:31:25.360 Yeah, this is wishful thinking. It's like, every single time... It's Lucy in the football.

00:31:30.640 Every single... We've got him this time. Oh, how did he escape? How did it happen this time?

00:31:35.100 I will say, he's his party's nominee, which he wasn't the last time we were all together

00:31:38.920 in one room. He's, you know, I mean, he's not officially the party nominee, but he's the last

00:31:43.760 man standing, and almost certainly, you know, acts of God notwithstanding, he's the nominee

00:31:51.300 for his party. And the truth is, he has been since the raid on Mar-a-Lago. Yep. Before the raid on

00:31:58.620 Mar-a-Lago, there was the idea that there might be a primary. After the raid on Mar-a-Lago,

00:32:02.480 it pretty quickly became evident that to the Republican electorate, this was an incumbent

00:32:07.760 president. In other words, the primary itself was perfunctory, just like Joe Biden's primary

00:32:12.580 was perfunctory. I think that that is why some of the criticisms, for example, of, say, Ron DeSantis

00:32:20.160 and how he ran a terrible campaign. I agreed with our buddy Kurt Schlichter, like, maybe he did,

00:32:25.760 maybe he didn't. It wouldn't matter if he'd run a great campaign. I agree.

00:32:27.980 Well, I agree. It was Donald Trump. It wouldn't have mattered, but I also think he ran a terrible

00:32:31.120 campaign. I mean, again, both of those things could be true, but I think that basically there

00:32:34.400 were two factors that cut against him. One was the feeling of defensive protection that the

00:32:39.740 Republican base took toward Trump the minute he got hit with the indictment. And the other was

00:32:42.900 Joe Biden collapsing, absolutely collapsing like a dying star in the polling number, because the

00:32:47.800 entire basis for a competitor to Trump was, he can't win, I can win. That's the reason you run

00:32:53.020 against him. I don't want to say collapsing star. I feel like dying star gives me visions

00:32:56.380 of Kamala ascending, and I don't really want to know. Oh, my gosh.

00:32:59.080 But there just is no correct way to go after Trump if you're in a primary. That's what, you know,

00:33:04.120 what do you do? Because you can not respond to him. That's what DeSantis did at first. Everyone's

00:33:09.420 like, well, you got to go after him. And you go after him, you alienate his supporters. It's just no,

00:33:13.500 it's a, there's a no way, it's a no-win proposition.

00:33:16.100 The rules don't apply to him.

00:33:17.200 His basic argument also was, I'll be Trump, but better, which is just not a very good sales.

00:33:21.580 Well, I mean, it would be a good sales pitch if Trump were running at 35%. But Trump wasn't

00:33:25.040 running at 35%. Trump was running dead even with Biden at the time. And so that's-

00:33:28.620 I think that Joe Biden is a once-in-a-generation opportunity for Republicans that we didn't

00:33:34.300 take. There is a tragedy to DeSantis, who is the most successful governor of my lifetime,

00:33:40.500 not being able to clinch the nomination.

00:33:42.380 I agree.

00:33:43.360 But he couldn't clinch the nomination.

00:33:44.940 I mean, it's funny to think, though, that like Nikki Haley, I think, would trounce Joe Biden,

00:33:51.220 but I don't want Nikki Haley to be president either. I don't think she'd be a very good

00:33:54.660 president.

00:33:55.060 Well, I mean, the real question about whether, about what Trump does in term two is going

00:34:00.820 to be how serious he is about appointing serious people.

00:34:03.480 Yep.

00:34:04.020 And whether they'll show up.

00:34:06.040 That's the question.

00:34:06.920 Will they-

00:34:07.780 I think that when somebody's the president, people show up around him. I do think that.

00:34:10.920 But I think that Trump also has this thing in his head that, you know, if you weren't

00:34:16.420 loyal to Trump from beginning to end, he's, this time, he's not going to take in anybody

00:34:19.800 who even showed an ounce of disloyalty.

00:34:22.580 And so there could be a sort of internal battle inside Trump administration, too, between

00:34:26.800 the loyalists who are not amazingly good at their job and the people who might be actually

00:34:30.400 really good at their job and transformational and being able to, say, clean out the executive

00:34:33.380 branch, but once said a bad word about Donald Trump or endorse somebody else in a primary

00:34:38.100 or something.

00:34:39.060 Right.

00:34:39.100 That could be a real problem.

00:34:40.820 I will say this, though, for Donald Trump.

00:34:42.980 Obviously, I'm not a fan of Donald Trump.

00:34:45.660 I wish he wasn't the nominee.

00:34:46.700 I hope, like hell, that he wins the general, because he is the nominee.

00:34:51.960 He doesn't hold grudges.

00:34:54.700 I actually think that there's this image that Donald Trump holds grudges.

00:34:57.500 Donald Trump holds a grudge right up until the grudge ends.

00:35:00.360 So if you supported DeSantis, if you bashed Trump during the primary, some of Donald Trump's

00:35:06.940 supporters may not forgive you.

00:35:08.420 Donald Trump will stop caring the second that you say something nice about him.

00:35:11.600 That's true.

00:35:12.260 You're right.

00:35:12.440 But you have to say the nice thing.

00:35:13.380 If you don't say the nice thing, you're dead forever, no matter what.

00:35:17.700 But you say the nice thing, he lets it go instantly, which there's a kind of charm to that.

00:35:24.260 No, he does have a kind of charm, and the press enhances his charm because they're worse than

00:35:30.280 he is.

00:35:31.060 So that everything, all the kind of overstatements he makes, the hyperbole and all that stuff,

00:35:36.020 don't look like anything compared to the lies of the press.

00:35:38.640 And not only that, they take those and then they treat them absolutely literally.

00:35:41.080 Yes.

00:35:41.680 Right?

00:35:41.820 I mean, that's the part where we all start doing it.

00:35:43.580 And come on.

00:35:44.080 Yeah.

00:35:45.340 Shane Gillis has a wonderful routine about Donald Trump's speech that he made after Abu

00:35:49.880 Bakr al-Baghdadi was killed.

00:35:51.560 Oh, yes.

00:35:51.920 It's a wonderful, wonderful routine.

00:35:53.940 When he says, like, what he's saying about the wonders of Trump and how Trump came out

00:35:56.440 and where Obama, after they killed bin Laden, he came out and he was very somber and he

00:35:59.820 was trying to explain in very measured tones what had happened.

00:36:02.940 Trump came out and he's like, we killed him.

00:36:04.420 He's dead.

00:36:05.220 He died like a dog.

00:36:06.180 Dirty dog.

00:36:07.080 Dirty dog.

00:36:07.740 And everybody found that charming.

00:36:10.520 And the media were like, I can't believe he would talk like that.

00:36:12.620 That's just, that's just so terrible.

00:36:14.740 And nobody looks at Trump that way anymore.

00:36:17.040 Like, it's all baked into the cake.

00:36:18.320 Here's the other thing.

00:36:19.440 I think that there is a whole group of Americans who are older, who are looking at younger Americans

00:36:23.220 and they're like, what's happening right now isn't normal.

00:36:25.600 Like, it's weird and it's not normal.

00:36:27.140 And for younger Americans, guess what?

00:36:29.200 This is normal.

00:36:30.180 This has been happening since 2015.

00:36:31.780 It is now 2024.

00:36:32.760 There are people who are going to vote in the next election cycle who are legitimately

00:36:36.600 nine or 10 years old when Donald Trump became a presidential candidate for the first time.

00:36:41.280 And a lot of them, a lot of them.

00:36:42.580 I had this guy I interviewed this week, a 24-year-old conservative talker with a small

00:36:48.040 show.

00:36:48.620 And he said, you know, 2020 happens.

00:36:51.640 You watch these riots go on.

00:36:53.340 You watch the press tell you that these riots will cure COVID.

00:36:56.940 But if you go to a Donald Trump rally, that will spread COVID.

00:36:59.880 And the riots are mostly peaceful with the buildings.

00:37:02.260 He said, you realize these people are not here for me.

00:37:04.500 They don't, they hate me, you know?

00:37:06.280 Sorry, on the screen, they're just showing, this is the greatest collection of IQ I've

00:37:09.480 ever seen.

00:37:10.500 Maisie Hirono and Bernie Sanders laughing together about how many people they would

00:37:15.200 put in the gulag if they actually had the opportunity.

00:37:17.360 Combined age of 650.

00:37:19.460 600, their combined age is significantly higher than their combined IQ.

00:37:22.280 She wasn't wearing white, which I appreciate in this setting.

00:37:24.840 That is true.

00:37:26.780 Now, I hate all these people.

00:37:28.260 I truly do.

00:37:28.920 I mean, like, Congress is filled with dullards.

00:37:31.620 The Supreme Court is, eh.

00:37:33.460 Will there be actual support after this for a presidential age limit?

00:37:37.380 No.

00:37:37.820 No.

00:37:38.200 No.

00:37:38.500 There should be.

00:37:39.080 There should be, 100%.

00:37:40.440 Like, it's unassailable in my mind that obviously 75...

00:37:45.560 At some point, you stop.

00:37:46.500 ...should be the cutoff, if not earlier.

00:37:48.560 Yeah, that's correct.

00:37:50.260 I would cut off much earlier.

00:37:52.340 But this is telling us something, right?

00:37:53.740 It's telling us that the boomer generation is the last generation that was playing...

00:37:58.620 Well, I think that something you've said before, Drew, and I think this is right, is that,

00:38:01.680 yes, we can yell at the boomer generation and blame them, and they deserve a lot.

00:38:06.380 But I think they think they're holding back something that's catastrophic.

00:38:09.280 I agree.

00:38:09.560 I do.

00:38:10.000 I do, too.

00:38:10.800 They probably are.

00:38:11.440 Yes.

00:38:11.800 Yes, I agree.

00:38:12.760 I mean, you think about even the air, you know, we talk a lot about the DEI in the airline

00:38:17.080 industry.

00:38:17.660 Right.

00:38:18.500 And I think you've got this generation of, and I've seen people talk about this generation

00:38:21.920 of, like, boomer pilots who are just keeping us from catastrophe, and once they shuffle

00:38:28.660 off, we're in charge.

00:38:29.900 That's what this kid said, by the way.

00:38:31.300 He said, you know, you guys have a lot to answer for, speaking to me.

00:38:33.820 He said, you guys have a lot to answer for, but you knew what you were doing.

00:38:35.980 You were competent.

00:38:36.780 You knew how to do your jobs.

00:38:38.040 And he said, that's just not true anymore.

00:38:39.720 Yeah, we will hearken back to the good old days when planes didn't crash.

00:38:44.940 I mean, one of the pieces of reportage that we've done on the DEI stuff is on the surgery

00:38:50.160 industry, and the fact that DEI has now infused, you know, like, the people who are cutting

00:38:55.580 you open.

00:38:56.540 I mean, the insanity that is about to be unleashed among people of the younger generation is totally

00:39:02.220 crazy.

00:39:02.740 The middle is not, there is no middle anymore.

00:39:04.740 The middle has been completely obliterated.

00:39:06.960 The truth is, not that there wasn't a conservative movement, Drew.

00:39:09.500 The fact is that there was this sort of, everyone hates the blob, and for a reason.

00:39:14.040 The blob is terrible.

00:39:15.500 The question is always, what comes after the blob?

00:39:18.000 Right.

00:39:18.180 And so, it could be something good, or it could be something even worse than the blob.

00:39:21.860 That is certainly a real possibility.

00:39:23.580 You could get a polarization between the Wokies on one hand, and the, and, you know, people

00:39:28.700 who really do believe that the government should have extraordinary powers at the top level

00:39:33.240 to ensure whatever they want from that side.

00:39:36.460 I mean, it could get way worse from here.

00:39:38.840 As I'm fond of telling Jeremy, it always looks darker just before it goes pitch black.

00:39:42.960 I'm just going to pour that on there.

00:39:44.780 But there is something that I think would make us all feel better at this point, of course.

00:39:48.980 Oh, boy.

00:39:49.540 You know, for the only thing I can answer.

00:39:57.300 So, if you thought that joke was funny, you should become a Daily Wire plus subscriber.

00:40:02.300 You'll be able to ask us questions in the back half, like, what the hell?

00:40:07.660 Which would be valid.

00:40:08.420 We'd try to answer that.

00:40:11.200 They say the president is still in the car, so it may be a minute here.

00:40:14.840 I don't know if that means that he's still stuck behind the...

00:40:17.660 Has Kamala Harris ever looked not awkward?

00:40:19.740 No.

00:40:20.140 She's like the Michael Scott of vice presidents.

00:40:21.820 You know that she has, there's like a 20% chance that she is our next president.

00:40:26.180 Higher than that.

00:40:26.760 Higher than that at some point, yeah.

00:40:28.140 Yeah.

00:40:28.500 I mean, I would say right now that there's maybe a 50% chance, because if you figure that

00:40:32.700 that Biden has a 50% shot of being president, then she almost certainly will be president

00:40:37.120 because he will die, unfortunately, because you don't want that to happen to anybody.

00:40:40.980 There's Jill, who's guilty for pushing her, the greatest doctor of our time.

00:40:46.480 There she is.

00:40:47.500 She is quite the doctor.

00:40:48.960 Very doctor-y.

00:40:51.520 Well, they made it in.

00:40:52.360 They must have run over a few protesters.

00:40:54.480 That's exciting.

00:40:56.300 Drew, what were you saying?

00:40:57.420 I still refuse to believe Biden's going to be the nominee.

00:40:59.740 That he'll be the candidate.

00:41:01.720 Of course he's going to be the candidate.

00:41:02.900 Well, I mean, at this point, they have no choice.

00:41:05.340 Oh, they have one choice, but only if Biden were to die.

00:41:09.700 The only path.

00:41:10.280 The only path would be, actually, that isn't a path.

00:41:13.780 The only path would be if they somehow convince Biden to step aside.

00:41:16.460 If he dies, Kamala Harris is the nominee and Donald Trump is the next president.

00:41:20.720 But if they could get Biden to step aside and get Kamala, or get-

00:41:26.600 Man, look at this cabinet.

00:41:27.840 It's awful.

00:41:28.720 Lincoln.

00:41:29.380 Lincoln to me is the one-

00:41:30.180 Who has set the world on fire.

00:41:31.160 Janet Yellen, who's created 40-year inflation.

00:41:33.760 Lloyd Austin, fresh from the hospital, who has done nothing but cripple the American military

00:41:39.160 with woke garbage.

00:41:40.800 Yeah.

00:41:41.840 What a cavalcade of comedy geniuses we have over here.

00:41:45.380 Merrick Garland, the most corrupt AG of the modern era.

00:41:47.680 I think the, can I just say, Kamala Harris being the first woman to be president of the United

00:41:56.460 States, would be pretty funny stuff.

00:42:00.580 That would be some pretty funny stuff.

00:42:02.600 And they get there by default.

00:42:03.880 She's not elected.

00:42:04.620 She just inherits it.

00:42:07.320 This cabinet is such, it is such a bleep show.

00:42:10.140 It's such a bleep show.

00:42:11.180 Like, one after the other.

00:42:12.320 My goodness.

00:42:14.220 Until you see them all in a room together, you're like, wow.

00:42:16.840 That's an amazing thing.

00:42:18.280 It's like watching, it's looking like a Surratt painting of stupidity.

00:42:21.320 Each individual dot.

00:42:22.520 And then you pull back and suddenly it's an entire picture of Sunday in the Park with

00:42:26.280 George of morons.

00:42:27.960 Quentalism of evil.

00:42:29.520 I mean, there's Pete Buttigieg.

00:42:30.780 He went on paternity leave and he's, yeah, he's probably still on paternity leave and we

00:42:34.380 just don't know it.

00:42:35.240 Deb Haaland, Secretary of the Interior, who, as far as I'm aware, does absolutely nothing.

00:42:40.840 I actually think that Democrats believe that Pete Buttigieg could be president.

00:42:44.220 Yeah, they do believe it.

00:42:45.060 They definitely believe it.

00:42:45.760 Man, they're high on their own supply.

00:42:47.380 They are so high on their own supply.

00:42:48.500 They think that Joe Biden is having trouble with his minority base.

00:42:51.220 Wait until you run Pete Buttigieg.

00:42:52.520 See how that works out for you.

00:42:53.780 Meanwhile, the transportation industry has like fallen apart.

00:42:57.460 I don't know what he really does anyway, but.

00:42:59.980 There's Alejandro Mayorkas.

00:43:01.240 He just walked in with two illegal immigrants under his jacket, smuggling them directly into

00:43:05.460 the House of Congress.

00:43:06.680 So that's exciting news for him.

00:43:08.140 Mayorkas is the closest thing we have to Putin.

00:43:10.040 He's the closest thing we have to a man who speaks with no connection to his heart or mind.

00:43:13.820 The words come out of his mouth and he actually means nothing that he says.

00:43:18.220 He's the most corrupt individual.

00:43:20.000 How dare you speak about Vladimir Putin that way?

00:43:22.380 He just wants the best for the Russian people.

00:43:23.420 He just wants the best.

00:43:24.300 It's true.

00:43:24.960 He's a strong man.

00:43:25.940 He's a strong man.

00:43:26.720 Strong leader.

00:43:27.660 Brides bearers the whole thing.

00:43:28.560 I mean, he's 40 IQ points dumber than Putin, though, I would say.

00:43:31.880 That's the only difference.

00:43:32.520 Well, that may be.

00:43:33.960 But just as wicked.

00:43:37.100 Man, it's so depressing watching these people.

00:43:39.620 This is so depressing.

00:43:40.880 Say, ah, man, I'm becoming like you now.

00:43:43.320 This is your moment.

00:43:44.000 I'm becoming like you.

00:43:44.920 Yeah.

00:43:45.380 Just my.

00:43:45.940 No, this is your moment.

00:43:46.880 This is like every.

00:43:48.200 All my energy just drops and just stroke my much shorter beard.

00:43:54.000 Just, you know, I don't know.

00:43:56.340 Not sure I care anymore about life.

00:43:59.000 About anything.

00:44:00.740 We're definitely getting people excited to watch this thing.

00:44:02.520 Yeah, I know.

00:44:03.160 Yeah, exactly.

00:44:03.720 Are we the uppers or are we the uppers over here?

00:44:06.220 Well, maybe there's a rerun of the Flintstones on it.

00:44:08.480 We could go back to the Star Wars conversation.

00:44:11.480 I was enjoying that.

00:44:12.260 That was good.

00:44:12.920 Star Wars is good.

00:44:14.260 Okay, so I have a question.

00:44:15.520 Flavin, I do have a question for you.

00:44:17.120 As long as I'm going to do this.

00:44:18.340 You're also anti-Empire?

00:44:20.100 I'm anti the entire thing.

00:44:21.480 You're a terrible person and you have no taste.

00:44:24.200 That's terrible.

00:44:25.120 Okay.

00:44:25.320 This is my.

00:44:26.000 Okay.

00:44:26.600 The Empire Strikes Back is not.

00:44:27.860 Fine, the Oscars are happening Sunday night.

00:44:29.340 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:44:29.960 Let's do that.

00:44:30.520 All right, let's do the Oscars.

00:44:31.200 But the Empire, I'm just.

00:44:32.500 Do you think that's like high art, Empire Strikes Back?

00:44:34.380 Yes.

00:44:34.580 First of all, Darth Vader, again, again, when you're 25 years old, you watch a third.

00:44:38.940 Darth Vader's a super corny villain.

00:44:41.440 He's just corny.

00:44:42.440 He's not like, he's not.

00:44:43.540 He's corny because you've seen every movie.

00:44:44.640 He's not intimidating.

00:44:46.420 You know.

00:44:47.120 He literally puts a dude up by his throat and kills him in the first five minutes.

00:44:49.960 A great movie villain is like Javier Bardem in No Country for Old Men.

00:44:53.840 It's like, you would actually be terrified to be in the room with that guy.

00:44:57.460 Darth Vader, you're like.

00:44:58.860 He uses his mind to.

00:44:59.580 I find your lack of faith disturbing.

00:45:01.100 He uses his mind to choke people.

00:45:05.020 He can actually crush their larynx like somebody who actually died of asphyxiation.

00:45:07.980 Yeah, he has great powers.

00:45:09.040 But I'm saying, in the performance and in the writing, I just don't feel.

00:45:14.100 James Earl Jones, highly overrated.

00:45:17.760 I'm just saying things now.

00:45:18.700 James Earl Jones was a great.

00:45:19.980 I saw him when he started out on stage.

00:45:21.600 I don't hold Darth Vader against him.

00:45:23.520 You thought this kid is going places.

00:45:24.760 Yeah, I did.

00:45:25.320 No, I actually did.

00:45:27.260 I saw him in The Great White Hope.

00:45:29.020 He stood next to me at the phone booths when my daughter was born.

00:45:32.800 Because his son, I think it was his son, was born.

00:45:34.780 And the two deepest voices in New York were going, I have a daughter.

00:45:37.300 I have a son.

00:45:38.700 There's Lauren Boebert.

00:45:40.140 Fortunately, she doesn't have her boyfriend there this time.

00:45:42.460 So that's exciting news.

00:45:44.080 There's the Secretary of Energy.

00:45:46.440 What's her face?

00:45:47.620 Oh, what's her face?

00:45:49.680 Oh, what's her face?

00:45:50.800 Former Michigan governor.

00:45:51.740 You'll remember her from the DNC in 2012, waving her arms like a nut job.

00:45:55.400 Boy, that shot just there before was like this textbook illustration of the fall of the

00:45:59.940 Republican.

00:46:00.460 Yeah.

00:46:02.120 Man.

00:46:02.880 Oh, Jill.

00:46:03.760 Oh, the greatest doctor.

00:46:05.080 So doctorate.

00:46:06.320 And then there's, I got to say, the Republicans have run their Congress beautifully, I think.

00:46:11.160 And the nice thing is, if you don't like this speaker, you can wait two minutes and you'll

00:46:13.860 get another one.

00:46:15.080 So as long as you're going to be depressed about everything, how about the fact that they

00:46:18.620 just booted a speaker for no reason and they appointed a new speaker and he cuts deals

00:46:21.800 that look exactly like the old speaker deal?

00:46:23.320 He's the exact same guy.

00:46:24.580 The exact same.

00:46:25.340 But it's not even the guy.

00:46:26.680 It's the incentive structure.

00:46:27.920 When you have a one vote majority, you're done.

00:46:29.920 You can't do anything.

00:46:30.800 That's all.

00:46:31.480 Because I think he is, this speaker, is more conservative.

00:46:34.980 On a gut level, no question he's more conservative than Kevin was.

00:46:37.720 But the idea that Mike is way more conservative than Kevin in terms of governance, that's not

00:46:41.480 the job.

00:46:42.240 People keep mistaking, and this is true for all of American government, people keep mistaking

00:46:46.160 the man for the job.

00:46:47.500 And it's not the same thing.

00:46:49.020 When you keep redefining the job and leave the incentive structures the same as they always

00:46:52.240 were, the same exact thing is going to happen.

00:46:54.420 And that's particularly true for Senate Majority Leader.

00:46:56.300 Yep.

00:46:56.440 When people say, oh man, we'll get rid of McConnell, and then we'll have somebody who's

00:46:59.360 really go get him.

00:47:00.280 First of all, can I explain to you that Mitch McConnell achieved more conservative victories

00:47:03.220 during his tenure than any Republican legislator of my lifetime?

00:47:07.480 You have a Republican majority on the Supreme Court because of Mitch McConnell.

00:47:10.600 That is why.

00:47:11.560 TV does not support institutional men.

00:47:14.180 It supports individuals.

00:47:16.040 Here comes the president.

00:47:17.540 Oh my God.

00:47:18.580 The door creaked up and...

00:47:19.660 All right.

00:47:22.060 It's like the fall of the House of Austria.

00:47:24.040 That's right.

00:47:24.500 The president is entering the House chamber, and we're going to take you live to the State

00:47:28.820 of the Union, and we'll be back to let you know just how bad it was as soon as the president's

00:47:33.700 speech concludes.

00:47:34.360 Does he know where he is?

00:47:34.980 Well, that was...

00:47:44.600 My goodness.

00:47:47.800 I think we can go home.

00:47:48.800 That's the commentary.

00:47:49.900 That was...

00:47:50.260 It was honestly the worst State of the Union address that's maybe ever been given.

00:47:54.020 It was all...

00:47:54.500 Especially for the first 30 minutes, angry, slurring, starting with the most hyper-partisan

00:48:02.200 issues he possibly could.

00:48:03.500 And the decision to...

00:48:05.760 The very first thing you talk about is Ukraine was...

00:48:08.420 Not the State of our Union.

00:48:09.820 Right.

00:48:10.260 Someone else mind-boggling.

00:48:11.160 He was using it only to get to call his fellow Americans equivalent to Vladimir Putin invading

00:48:16.740 a sovereign country.

00:48:17.740 Yeah.

00:48:18.020 That's what that was.

00:48:18.660 I mean, that was his gateway into January 6th, because democracy is a threat in Ukraine,

00:48:23.580 and democracy is a threat here at home.

00:48:26.080 That was literally the reason that he led with the Ukraine stuff, was that he could call

00:48:29.300 his fellow Americans akin to Vladimir Putin.

00:48:31.860 That was...

00:48:32.380 That's what that was.

00:48:33.820 I mean, wow.

00:48:34.780 This guy...

00:48:35.540 Guys, I need something.

00:48:38.380 I'm so glad that didn't work.

00:48:44.760 Even the music has stopped.

00:48:46.400 That's terrible, guys.

00:48:47.060 This guy has always been this guy.

00:48:48.880 He's always been an angry, mean, hateful, corrupt little son of a gun.

00:48:52.620 I mean, it's just like...

00:48:53.160 That's right.

00:48:53.440 You know, this may be the only state of the union that ever accomplished anything, which

00:48:59.220 might be getting Donald Trump elected, if it accomplishes anything.

00:49:02.360 Number one, nobody listened to the state of the union.

00:49:05.260 The only part that anybody heard was the first 10 minutes, which is why he led with all the

00:49:09.040 hyper-partisan stuff, because he figures this is his last chance.

00:49:11.680 And he's figuring that what he can aim for here is energetic, passionate, right?

00:49:16.260 You know what the headlines are going to be, right?

00:49:17.660 Peppy.

00:49:18.120 Oh, you know what the headlines are.

00:49:19.200 He was fighting, feisty, with the Republicans.

00:49:21.400 And the Republicans, of course, were probably helping him along with that by fighting with

00:49:24.940 him, because that way he can do his, look at me, I'm a feisty fighter.

00:49:27.460 I'm not an old geriatric dotter who feels like he's going to crap his pants any moment.

00:49:31.760 But, you know, the fact is that the state of the union, just to remind everybody, is

00:49:36.900 provided for under the Constitution of the United States so that the president can, from

00:49:42.100 time to time, inform the Congress of the latest developments inside the executive branch.

00:49:47.900 That is the goal.

00:49:49.380 Instead, he didn't even get to the usual phrase you start with, the state of the union is strong

00:49:52.960 or whatever.

00:49:53.480 He didn't even get to that until like 12 minutes into the speech.

00:49:56.080 And the entire opening of the speech was about how his fellow Americans are terrible and evil

00:50:00.680 and corrupt and vicious and insurrectionist and terrible, and particularly because of Ukraine.

00:50:06.660 There's so many problems, logically, with the speech.

00:50:08.460 I mean, first of all, he starts with the, there have been a lot of attacks on democracy.

00:50:11.140 And then he leads with Ukraine in January 6th.

00:50:13.420 He saves all the Israel stuff, which is an attack on a democracy, by the way, by a terrorist

00:50:16.300 group.

00:50:16.520 He saves that for the end when he chides the Israelis for not being nice enough to the Palestinians

00:50:20.580 and talks about how we're, did you guys know that we're going to build a peer?

00:50:24.220 I'm excited.

00:50:24.640 As an American taxpayer, I'm really excited.

00:50:26.080 I'm excited to build like a pier.

00:50:26.860 You can put it like a Ferris wheel, maybe like a merry-go-round on the pier in the Mediterranean

00:50:30.820 off Gaza.

00:50:31.860 He says we won't be putting American boots on the ground over there, which is weird because

00:50:35.380 I'm not sure exactly, what are they going to do, swim?

00:50:37.100 Like, are they going to be like, there's going to be scuba divers?

00:50:39.380 Gazan scuba divers are going to jump out into the water and take the stuff in.

00:50:42.920 Yeah, putting Americans, it seems like, directly into a foreign war zone is probably the smartest

00:50:47.080 idea that you could do.

00:50:48.280 I feel like, how could that go wrong?

00:50:50.020 Probably it'll be amazing.

00:50:50.960 You know, I can't help but think, and I know this is comparing great things to small, after

00:50:56.000 the Civil War, 700,000 Americans slaughtered by each other, Abraham Lincoln gets up and

00:51:02.660 says, with charity toward all and malice toward none, you know, we're going to rebuild.

00:51:06.940 A couple of hundred doofuses go into the Capitol, and he actually puts this forward as the worst

00:51:14.100 thing since the Civil War and the kind of threat to democracy that Putin invading a country

00:51:18.600 represents.

00:51:19.540 The meanness of it, the smallness of it, and the one, remember when Trump gave his inaugural

00:51:25.660 and all we heard was, it's dark, it's dark, it's dark.

00:51:28.520 Now you're going to hear it.

00:51:29.080 We heard one other thing.

00:51:30.260 Yeah.

00:51:30.860 That's some weird shit.

00:51:31.740 But now it's like, he's feisty and energetic, and he's just mean.

00:51:38.220 That's right.

00:51:38.580 Just a mean man.

00:51:39.220 And angry.

00:51:39.840 It's the angriest, angriest State of the Union that's probably ever been given.

00:51:43.640 And the symbolism, I mean, of course it doesn't matter because nobody's going to remember,

00:51:46.380 but the symbolism of, you begin with Ukraine, he hits Ukraine, January 6th, abortion, IVF.

00:51:53.900 My predecessor, my predecessor.

00:51:55.500 Yeah, my predecessor.

00:51:56.740 And then he gets to, like, the size of chip bags, and then finally, right after chip bags,

00:52:03.420 he gets to the border, which is the thing that's most, you know, one of the top issues

00:52:07.400 for most Americans.

00:52:07.900 Where he proceeds to blow the name of the victim that people are wearing the pin for.

00:52:10.900 Right.

00:52:11.180 Because Lincoln.

00:52:12.040 He called Lincoln Riley.

00:52:13.620 He's supposed to do Lincoln Riley.

00:52:14.660 Whatever.

00:52:15.000 It's not even her name.

00:52:15.800 It doesn't matter.

00:52:16.520 And then he starts jabbering about, like, and how many thousands have been killed by illegals?

00:52:21.080 So he's just downplaying the crime.

00:52:22.420 Right.

00:52:22.620 That's literally what he yelled back at the Congress when MTG, when Marjorie Taylor Greene

00:52:26.520 was pushing him to say the name.

00:52:27.560 He said, he takes out the pin, he mispronounces the name.

00:52:29.980 And then he says, and she was killed by an illegal, pissing off his entire left flank

00:52:32.960 because you're not allowed to say the word illegal if you're on the left.

00:52:35.900 And then he follows that up by saying, and how many thousands have been killed by illegals?

00:52:39.460 The implication, of course, being that everybody is overestimating the amount of crime from

00:52:43.940 illegal immigrants.

00:52:44.840 So that's like three screw-ups in three sentences right there.

00:52:48.300 But also, I think, you know, I understand that the State of the Union is forgotten and

00:52:52.800 people don't watch it, but I think people are going to remember that screaming.

00:52:56.160 I think they're going to remember the sound of that voice just scolding everybody and

00:53:00.180 yelling at everybody.

00:53:01.240 And, you know, who the hell is he to do that?

00:53:03.160 What has he accomplished that he should be yelling at us for being unhappy that our price,

00:53:07.320 the price of food has gone up 35% since he took office and the value of the dollar

00:53:11.580 is lower than it's been since anyone but Carter after, after this period of time.

00:53:15.720 And he's screaming at us.

00:53:17.540 It's like, go to hell, man.

00:53:18.980 I totally agree with you, by the way.

00:53:20.280 The screaming is going to be the takeaway.

00:53:22.700 And it's really bad for him.

00:53:23.860 Yeah.

00:53:24.060 Because during the 2020 election, one of the things that he had going for him is that

00:53:28.120 Donald Trump was the screaming.

00:53:28.960 Yes, that's right.

00:53:29.580 You remember during that debate that was terrible for Trump.

00:53:32.260 It was the second debate.

00:53:34.140 And Trump came out really aggressive.

00:53:35.860 He came out super hot.

00:53:37.340 And he was like talking over Biden, just kept jumping in, talking over Biden.

00:53:41.180 And finally, Biden kind of turned to the camera and went, oh, shut up.

00:53:43.800 And everybody, even people who were voting for Trump, like me, well, I mean, Trump was

00:53:49.280 being very loud.

00:53:50.140 And loudness is irritating and annoying.

00:53:52.920 The one who is being loud right now, he's out louding Donald Trump.

00:53:56.940 He's currently running the worst re-elect campaign we have ever seen.

00:54:01.080 I mean, this is a truly awful re-elect campaign.

00:54:03.440 And it may be because he is bound by the strictures of who he is.

00:54:07.260 And what else, what's his skill set?

00:54:08.820 What's left in the bag?

00:54:09.900 Seriously, what's in the bag of tricks?

00:54:10.940 It can't be his policy.

00:54:11.640 His policies suck.

00:54:12.260 It can't be his charm because he's not charming at all.

00:54:15.420 It certainly can't be his energy level because he's dying.

00:54:18.200 And so what we end up with is the old man raging against the dying of the light, literally.

00:54:23.840 Yeah.

00:54:24.060 Like literally just looking out at the crowd and yelling at you.

00:54:26.720 For how long was that speech?

00:54:28.080 It felt like about four years.

00:54:29.440 My kids are graduating college right now.

00:54:32.260 That was a shock.

00:54:33.820 It actually was a shockingly long speech.

00:54:36.120 There's a lot of talk going in that he might not be able to hold up long enough to give

00:54:40.380 a normally, you know, terribly long speech.

00:54:43.360 Yeah, also, my favorite part is where he said that he taught constitutional law for 12 years.

00:54:46.440 I like that part.

00:54:47.140 Where he said, I taught the second amendment for 12 years.

00:54:48.900 I think that he, I think, I'm not joking.

00:54:50.860 I think he's referring to Barack Obama and his time as a constitutional...

00:54:55.940 Really?

00:54:56.340 Lecturer.

00:54:56.860 Lecturer.

00:54:57.340 Yeah.

00:54:58.440 Legitimately, he's such a fabulist.

00:55:00.480 Yeah.

00:55:00.640 I think that he, and he, you know, he spent eight years of his life telling the fable

00:55:04.520 of Barack Obama.

00:55:05.480 Right.

00:55:05.800 I honestly think that he just lapsed into the wrong fable as his own biography.

00:55:09.180 Wow.

00:55:10.300 Well, that was devastating.

00:55:11.320 All those listeners.

00:55:11.780 During my time as a community organizer on the south side of Chicago.

00:55:16.440 As a young black man.

00:55:17.640 Yeah.

00:55:17.920 And growing up in Hawaii.

00:55:19.120 And remember how they counted every lie, every hyperbole that Trump used, they counted

00:55:24.060 it as a lie and they had 3,000 lies and all this.

00:55:26.860 Yeah.

00:55:26.980 But Joe Biden is our tale teller in chief, as the New York Times put it.

00:55:30.760 You know, it's okay because he's just telling tales.

00:55:33.000 You know, they're meaningful.

00:55:34.060 I will say that I personally enjoy the new trend now of shouting at the president of

00:55:38.960 the State of the Union.

00:55:39.720 I think it's great.

00:55:40.860 It's more like British Parliament, right?

00:55:42.880 Exactly.

00:55:43.420 And also, if we're going to do this, like, you know, let's drop the pageantry of pretending

00:55:46.560 that we're all on the same side.

00:55:47.980 We all hate each other.

00:55:49.060 So, like, fine.

00:55:49.760 If we're going to do it, let's do it.

00:55:50.980 Eggs.

00:55:51.760 Like, eggs, tomatoes.

00:55:52.900 Yeah.

00:55:53.360 Like, really go for it, you know?

00:55:54.240 Oh, yeah.

00:55:54.600 For sure.

00:55:55.000 Make it more amusing.

00:55:56.140 Like a dunk tank.

00:55:57.580 Like, he says the wrong thing.

00:55:58.560 Mike Johnson just hits the thing.

00:56:00.780 The dunk tank opens.

00:56:01.740 I will say that Mike Johnson, I think, stood up one time the entire speech.

00:56:04.880 Yeah.

00:56:05.020 It was when he said that Hamas should surrender.

00:56:06.500 And that was pretty much it for the entire speech.

00:56:08.660 Yeah.

00:56:08.760 Mike Johnson had a really unenviable task tonight, which is he had to keep a straight face.

00:56:12.300 And behind him, you could see there were a lot of skeptical looks from Mike Johnson,

00:56:15.720 who does have a very memable face.

00:56:18.940 Yeah.

00:56:19.240 Right, with the glasses and everything.

00:56:20.220 And so him, like, giving the kind of side eye to Joe Biden will be...

00:56:24.740 I was sorry he didn't tear up the speech at the end.

00:56:26.820 You know, like, let him come after me.

00:56:28.020 Make it a paper airplane.

00:56:28.980 Like, just do some origami.

00:56:33.000 Kamala Harris being as absolutely smarmy and irritating as it's possible to be.

00:56:37.160 Without even opening her mouth.

00:56:38.080 Without even opening her mouth, I was saying to Drew while we were watching that the noun

00:56:45.140 rictus was coined in ancient times to describe her smile.

00:56:49.400 Like, that is a rictus, a frozen rictus upon her face.

00:56:53.260 And it's just all the awfulness of American politics just telescoped into one hour and 20

00:56:58.540 minute segment right there.

00:57:00.600 You know, lie after lie, the tax stuff.

00:57:02.740 He does it every year.

00:57:03.620 I know.

00:57:04.040 We're supposed to be, at this point, inured to the stupidity of people suggesting the

00:57:07.760 rich don't pay their fair share.

00:57:08.740 I'm never inured to it because I used to be not rich and now I'm rich.

00:57:11.320 And I got to tell you, I pay a load of taxes, guys.

00:57:13.620 Like, a lot of taxes.

00:57:14.920 And they never pay fair share of what?

00:57:16.980 Fair share of what programs?

00:57:17.900 Well, define...

00:57:18.740 Also, define fair share.

00:57:20.240 Yes.

00:57:20.560 That's all I want.

00:57:21.480 If there is such a thing as a share which is fair, what is the size of that share?

00:57:25.160 Right.

00:57:25.760 Yes.

00:57:26.300 And there's no fair share of garbage, you know?

00:57:28.820 There's no fair share...

00:57:29.620 There's stuff we're paying for.

00:57:31.240 It's not making life better.

00:57:32.520 Is life better than it was three, four years ago?

00:57:34.400 It's all lies also.

00:57:35.380 He'll say things like, well, you know, the billionaires only pay 8.2%.

00:57:37.760 8.2% on their money.

00:57:39.520 What do you mean on their money?

00:57:40.720 Do you mean on their income?

00:57:41.740 Because if it's on their income, I promise you, they pay exactly what the federal prevailing

00:57:44.840 income tax rate is.

00:57:46.020 Right.

00:57:46.140 If you mean their entire wealth base, yes, it's true.

00:57:48.440 Because you also do not pay a tax on the value of your house to the federal government,

00:57:53.240 for example.

00:57:53.840 That would be a wealth tax.

00:57:55.040 We don't have those in this country.

00:57:56.320 They're not legal on the federal level.

00:57:57.940 It's just, like, the number of lies that...

00:58:00.480 He's talking about, oh my God.

00:58:02.300 He says, my favorite is when he talks about lowering the deficit.

00:58:04.780 I've lowered the deficit more into...

00:58:06.660 And then he's like, we cannot touch the retirement age.

00:58:09.460 Anyone who touches Social Security will immediately be shot.

00:58:12.340 It's like...

00:58:13.360 Well, then you're not doing anything about the deficit.

00:58:14.980 Yes.

00:58:15.340 But also, he wants to...

00:58:16.660 Lower inflation.

00:58:18.540 Lower inflation by paying for everybody's mortgage.

00:58:20.600 The other thing that always really disturbs me is this thing about controlling the price

00:58:26.260 of medicine.

00:58:27.500 Yes.

00:58:27.760 Because if you wanted to control the price of medicine, the thing to do would be to not

00:58:31.160 allow them to sell it overseas for lower prices.

00:58:34.280 Yes.

00:58:34.560 Not to sell...

00:58:35.120 Not to change what it is here.

00:58:36.500 Well, we'd actually do a sanctioned foreign countries.

00:58:38.360 Yes.

00:58:38.700 Because what really what happens when that happens is medicines that you would have had, you don't

00:58:43.760 get.

00:58:44.020 So nobody understands that they're getting less.

00:58:47.540 So it's kind of sinister.

00:58:49.520 It's like, let people die so that we can lie to ourselves that we lowered the price

00:58:53.540 of drugs.

00:58:54.020 Right.

00:58:54.320 But the other thing is, you could lower the cost of healthcare in this country markedly

00:58:59.780 if you just let the market do it.

00:59:02.100 Yes, of course.

00:59:02.560 Everybody always says, we have a free market healthcare system in this country, and it's

00:59:06.280 the highest prices in the world.

00:59:07.680 We don't have a free market healthcare system in this country.

00:59:11.040 First of all, if you cross that border illegally, you can go to any hospital in this country

00:59:15.180 and get any treatment that we offer and not pay for any of it.

00:59:18.380 Right.

00:59:19.920 Secondly, most healthcare expenses are incurred in the last two years of life.

00:59:25.660 And most people in the last two years of their life are on Medicare.

00:59:28.820 Right.

00:59:29.120 Which means the majority of the healthcare that you will ever receive in your life is

00:59:33.680 paid for by the federal government.

00:59:34.960 And when you...

00:59:35.240 That is not a free market system.

00:59:37.200 And when you look at things that everybody has, like television sets, they come out,

00:59:41.260 they're incredibly expensive, and then when they've sold them to the people who buy them

00:59:44.740 at those prices, the prices drop.

00:59:46.660 The price of a TV that was literally $10,000 15 years ago is now $600.

00:59:53.100 You know, that's the way it happens.

00:59:54.660 But that doesn't happen in medicine because the government is the biggest customer.

00:59:59.200 Right.

00:59:59.440 And the second biggest customer are insurance companies.

01:00:02.340 And so you end up in this situation where there is almost no direct relationship between

01:00:07.360 who we think the customer is, which is us, and the provider of the service, which is

01:00:12.500 the drug company or the hospital.

01:00:14.080 It takes more than one second to explain.

01:00:15.440 And because it takes more than one second to explain, it's easier to just say,

01:00:18.120 Right.

01:00:18.400 Well, cap the price of pharmaceuticals, and now everything will be free.

01:00:21.440 That's right.

01:00:21.860 But, you know, the litany of lies, I'm with Matt.

01:00:25.160 The litany of lies to me is almost, it's pretty much utterly secondary because we've all watched.

01:00:30.080 I mean, I remember during the Obama years, fact-checking.

01:00:32.340 I was working at Breitbart at the time, and I remember fact-checking, like, at length,

01:00:35.800 all of Obama's speeches, and you would tell dozens of lies like this during the speech.

01:00:39.000 That's not the new thing.

01:00:39.900 The new thing that we're seeing right now is the utter demonization of half of the American public.

01:00:44.880 That's right.

01:00:45.200 And that is, it really is a new thing.

01:00:47.520 It's something that...

01:00:48.560 No, it started under Barack Obama, who called Republicans his enemy.

01:00:51.860 Right.

01:00:52.080 I mean, that's true, but I, honest to God, think that Joe Biden is going further than Obama did.

01:00:57.960 Oh, much further.

01:00:58.720 I mean, like, Obama was at least a little subtle about it.

01:01:01.960 It was sinister.

01:01:03.220 Right.

01:01:03.660 Right.

01:01:03.960 But Biden is not, he's like stupid people version of that.

01:01:07.080 He's like, he's saying, he's just saying all the things out loud.

01:01:09.640 And then he ends with something Orwellian like,

01:01:11.420 My unity agenda, I'm president for all of it.

01:01:13.780 You literally just said half of Americans are insurrectionists who are akin to Russian invaders of Ukraine.

01:01:18.680 Well, I mean, since you are funding the killing of Russian soldiers in Ukraine, I don't know what that means for, you know, those of us who disagree with you domestically.

01:01:24.600 I mean, that comparison doesn't sound so great.

01:01:27.020 I've got to be honest.

01:01:27.520 And if we assume, if we assume that the election was fairly won, which I actually, I've never seen have proven that it wasn't,

01:01:34.320 it's only a few people who were so angry at Donald Trump, who were so, you know, so opposed to Donald Trump that they moved over to the other side.

01:01:43.660 Trump got more votes than any other president except Biden, you know, in the last election.

01:01:47.920 So he's actually saying that all those MAGA Republicans are the enemy.

01:01:50.940 He's saying like a huge number of people.

01:01:53.060 Well, you know, January 6th is an incredibly complicated topic, which makes it very difficult to ever discuss.

01:02:02.240 Obviously, the Capitol compound is an enormous facility.

01:02:06.420 Obviously, there were tens of thousands of people there.

01:02:12.600 You know, people on this side of the building don't know what's going on on this side of the building.

01:02:15.940 Obviously, there was a long period of time.

01:02:17.780 So there were people who were there and then left and people who came and then, you know, so no one's experience of January 6th can really tell you what January 6th was.

01:02:25.920 There were plenty of people who police just let them in the building and they walked through the building and walked out the other side.

01:02:30.600 And there were people who broke glass and smashed through barricades and punched cops.

01:02:34.180 I mean, many, many things are true about January 6th.

01:02:38.580 And we, just as a people, I don't think this is just as Americans, I think it's as upright monkeys, you know, as human beings, we cannot handle the complexity and nuance of an event like January 6th, which means we can't create a true narrative about it.

01:02:55.040 We can only create these very, very hyperbolic political narratives.

01:02:58.140 What that means is that there are a lot of true narratives about it, but there's only one false narrative.

01:03:02.260 And the false narrative is...

01:03:02.960 This is where I was going.

01:03:03.660 Yeah, the false narrative is that America was in dire danger of our democracy being overthrown on January 6th.

01:03:09.480 That is a lie.

01:03:10.620 There is no way to say that that is true.

01:03:13.120 It is not even remotely true.

01:03:14.920 It is not even a smidgen of remotely true.

01:03:17.120 At no point during that riot, and I hated the riot.

01:03:19.900 I thought it was awful.

01:03:20.800 I thought it was really a disgrace.

01:03:22.480 At no point during that did I think, oh my God, democracy in the United States is about to end.

01:03:26.940 A military dictatorship is about to be declared with God, Emperor Trump at the head of it, leading his way into the Senate and slaughtering his opponents.

01:03:33.500 At no point did I think that was even remotely true.

01:03:36.240 No, they took this issue that actually could have played well the Democrats took, and they turned it into the Reichstag fire.

01:03:41.800 It's like this small thing that may not be a good thing to set the Reichstag on fire if you're a socialist, but still, that's no right reason to take everybody's rights away and to declare half the country as insurrectionists.

01:03:52.680 It's absolutely disgusting.

01:03:53.400 That's exactly right.

01:03:54.000 I mean, they flip on the language that he is constantly, and the Democrats are constantly doing, is truly an amazing thing.

01:04:00.120 According to this speech, we're the safest we've ever been, which is presumably why Kathy Hochul, the governor of New York, just unleashed 750 members of the National Guard to guard the subway so people would stop shoving each other in front of the damn trains because things are going amazing.

01:04:12.460 He then suggested that his plan on the border was more hawkish than the Republicans' plans on the border, despite the fact that obviously that's wildly untrue.

01:04:23.780 I like when he suggested that freedom is under attack because true freedom is being able to kill babies.

01:04:30.760 Yes.

01:04:31.020 That portion of the speech was really solid to me.

01:04:33.160 When he just started ripping on the Supreme Court, which we know, by the way, is apparently—it's funny how that goes from being incredibly valuable and necessary to a danger to democracy back to being incredibly valuable and necessary depending on who's ripping the Supreme Court at the time.

01:04:45.460 That's right.

01:04:45.780 So he's sitting there, and he's yelling at the Supreme Court with the Supreme Court sitting right there in front of him.

01:04:50.020 I mean, that's another—that feels pretty unprecedented to me, I mean, except when Biden has done it before.

01:04:55.600 But usually, historically, Democrats will—they'll make a few references to—

01:05:00.840 I remember Obama did it, and there was a justice who actually shook his head, and it was like a national scam.

01:05:05.120 But I mean, with abortion, with the abortion issue, they'll make a few references to reproductive freedom or whatever.

01:05:08.860 Reproductive freedom, of course, that ridiculous euphemism.

01:05:11.500 But Biden, I mean, he spent several minutes going after abortion in a really direct way.

01:05:17.720 I mean, this is obviously the most radically pro-abortion president we've ever had.

01:05:21.380 Meanwhile, he's, of course, sending his federal government after pro-life protesters and trying to put him in jail for 11 years.

01:05:28.240 And we've never seen anything like that.

01:05:31.180 I mean, we've never quite seen that.

01:05:32.240 Very disturbing to watch people stand up and applaud for abortion.

01:05:35.980 I'm sorry.

01:05:36.980 You know, I cannot get that out of my head that this is now something that a vast number of people feel is a human right.

01:05:43.500 And even if you would argue, oh, it's a terrible tragedy, but sometimes it has to happen, I would disagree with you, but at least I would understand.

01:05:51.180 That's at least an argument.

01:05:52.040 I was making this point on my show the other day, which is that Donald Trump's campaign is closer to Bill Clinton's 1996 campaign.

01:05:58.900 No question.

01:05:59.520 Than Joe Biden's campaign.

01:06:01.280 By far.

01:06:02.020 It's not actually particularly close.

01:06:03.400 Yeah.

01:06:03.460 Bill Clinton ran on welfare reform, reduction in crime, balancing the budget.

01:06:10.580 He ran on not gay marriage, because nobody's talking gay marriage in 1996.

01:06:14.620 He certainly wasn't trying to trans the kids.

01:06:16.700 He was, you know, like, and when it came to immigration, he wasn't an open borders president at that time.

01:06:22.760 Because it was already after Reagan's amnesty.

01:06:25.560 Like, it's the length to which the Democrats.

01:06:28.320 Safe, legal, and rare.

01:06:29.460 Safe, legal, and rare.

01:06:30.360 Right, that was where I was actually going.

01:06:31.580 Like, the fact that the Democratic Party moved, in my lifetime, from safe, legal, and rare, to cheer your abortion, celebrate your abortion, is totally insane.

01:06:41.060 And that's why, again, I think that the thing he needs to do, he is under a fundamental misconception in this election cycle.

01:06:46.640 It's the same misconception every Democrat's been under since 2012.

01:06:49.700 If we get enough members of the base jazzed about voting for us, we'll win.

01:06:52.920 It didn't work in 2016.

01:06:54.360 It did work in 2020, because they changed literally all the rules.

01:06:56.880 And then went to every single human in the United States eight times and picked up the ballot from their house and dumped it in a mailbox.

01:07:02.380 That's right.

01:07:02.900 And in 2024, I don't think it's going to win.

01:07:04.780 And I don't think it's going to win, specifically because it's wrong.

01:07:08.120 The theory is wrong.

01:07:09.280 He can get all the members of his base out.

01:07:10.700 It is not enough humans.

01:07:12.420 The thing he needs to be doing right now is appealing to moderates and independents.

01:07:15.120 And you can only do that in two ways.

01:07:16.720 With Trump, you can do it in terms of personality.

01:07:18.580 Right?

01:07:18.740 You can say, he's a crazy person, and I'm sane.

01:07:21.160 That was an insane speech, and he looked like a crazy, addled, old asshole.

01:07:24.940 I thought so, too.

01:07:25.500 And then you can also present a moderate policy agenda.

01:07:29.140 And he doesn't.

01:07:29.680 He presents Bernie Sanders' policy agenda.

01:07:31.420 So he goes zero for two on the two things he needs to do to reach out to the median voter.

01:07:35.820 He's pushing the median voter over toward Donald Trump.

01:07:38.860 The only thing Trump has to do is shut up.

01:07:41.420 If Trump shuts up, he'll be president.

01:07:42.660 That would be amazing.

01:07:44.140 Trump is.

01:07:44.860 And he's shutting up for two reasons.

01:07:46.180 One, they literally don't allow him on any social media platform to express his opinion.

01:07:49.700 And by the way, it's been the greatest favor to him.

01:07:51.180 If you're on Twitter right now, it'd be way worse for him.

01:07:53.140 I wonder if he knows him.

01:07:54.200 Number two, he is running a form of Joe Biden's 2020 campaign.

01:07:59.960 I mean, Donald Trump is not really out there campaigning.

01:08:03.000 He does the odd rally every now and then.

01:08:06.320 But you're seeing less of Donald Trump so far in this election campaign than probably any president

01:08:13.840 or any candidate for the presidency in the modern era except for Joe Biden 2020.

01:08:19.040 And he's not out there in a major way, which is good.

01:08:22.640 Yes.

01:08:22.980 And nobody doing that.

01:08:24.160 I mean, I guess people have pointed this out.

01:08:26.420 He's ahead in the polls, which he never was in the last election.

01:08:29.780 Right.

01:08:30.020 You know, we always attack the polls, but he was never ahead in the last election.

01:08:33.760 And now he actually is.

01:08:35.540 The great, hilarious thing about this election cycle right now.

01:08:39.280 Donald Trump is running the best he has ever run against any candidate.

01:08:43.400 2016, 2020, any of them is currently running ahead of Joe Biden by a point or two in the

01:08:49.620 real politics polling average.

01:08:51.000 He has led in, I believe, 24 of the last 31 polls.

01:08:55.820 He Joe Biden has not had a real politics polling average since mid-September at no point.

01:09:01.220 Literally no point during the 2020 race was Donald Trump polling ahead of Joe Biden.

01:09:05.000 Literally no time.

01:09:06.140 As soon as we got to the point where Biden was the nominee, Biden led wire to wire in that

01:09:09.740 election cycle.

01:09:10.480 In the final result in real politics polling average, Joe Biden was up by seven and a half

01:09:14.660 points.

01:09:14.980 He ended up winning by four and a half points.

01:09:16.460 That's right.

01:09:16.840 If Donald Trump is up by two and a half points right now or two points, he's actually up

01:09:20.960 by four.

01:09:21.660 That's right.

01:09:22.140 And because there are a bunch of people out there, independents, who are telling pollsters,

01:09:25.620 I don't know.

01:09:26.620 I'm not so sure.

01:09:27.860 And then when it comes right down to it, they're going to vote against Biden.

01:09:30.220 They are.

01:09:31.460 He is forcibly pushing moderates away from him.

01:09:33.860 I was in a major, I can't say who it was for reasons that will become clear, but I was in

01:09:38.880 a major New York media office this week where the head of that office started talking about

01:09:46.300 Trump in such a way that one of the other people said, I should close the door because

01:09:50.240 he was saying, you know, Trump really was a better president and he saved this country

01:09:55.040 in a lot of ways from some terrible things.

01:09:57.020 This is a guy I know left us down to his knees.

01:10:01.420 You know, it's in every election of my lifetime.

01:10:04.260 The question of who wins the presidential election is determined by who it is that the

01:10:10.280 election is a referendum on.

01:10:11.680 Yes.

01:10:12.740 And Donald Trump's enormous mistake in 2020 is that he could not subordinate his ego.

01:10:19.340 He couldn't let it be a referendum on the left.

01:10:22.380 It had to be a referendum on himself because he wanted to be at the center because that's

01:10:26.620 for better and for worse.

01:10:28.580 That's Donald Trump right now.

01:10:32.600 If you are the president, you sort of are de facto who it is a referendum on unless you

01:10:38.920 change that narrative.

01:10:39.980 What Biden was trying to do with the beginning of his speech tonight was make the election

01:10:44.780 a referendum on Donald Trump.

01:10:47.020 But I think he did it in such a tone deaf and angry way because he blamed the people because

01:10:51.280 he blamed the people.

01:10:52.060 That's a great point.

01:10:53.160 But it kept right now today.

01:10:55.180 This election is still a referendum on Joe Biden.

01:10:57.500 He didn't do anything to change that.

01:10:58.960 And because even when Trump makes this election about himself, he's making it about them because

01:11:03.840 they're after him.

01:11:04.720 And they're legitimately after him in such a way.

01:11:06.780 I mean, this is a guy who's talking about unity while he gave instructions to his Justice

01:11:10.440 Department to indict his major competitor.

01:11:14.080 You know, the New York Times actually had an op-ed by this guy Edsel, who's one of their

01:11:18.260 big left-wing columnists, saying, we can't win unless we convict them.

01:11:23.200 Unbelievable.

01:11:23.820 It's unbelievable.

01:11:24.400 So we're going to take a few questions from our Daily Wire Plus subscribers.

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01:11:36.560 This first one is for everyone.

01:11:38.920 And the question is thus.

01:11:40.460 When would you guys say was the last time we had an election that was truly about voting

01:11:44.100 for the guy that you like rather than voting against the guy that you don't like?

01:11:47.960 To me, that was 2008 between McCain and Obama.

01:11:50.680 Why?

01:11:53.180 I do think...

01:11:53.840 Oh, four.

01:11:54.300 I think 2016 for a lot of people.

01:11:55.840 That's what I was going to say.

01:11:57.040 I think 2016 for a lot of people, you know, they...

01:12:00.160 Voted for Trump.

01:12:01.060 They voted for Trump.

01:12:02.020 I feel like that was still a referendum on...

01:12:03.940 Maybe for some people.

01:12:05.380 I mean, I think for the majority of people who voted for Trump, at least in the independent

01:12:08.680 crowd, which shifted two to one for him, was voting against Hillary.

01:12:11.960 Because she was the least popular...

01:12:13.680 Yeah, I mean, people hated her.

01:12:15.460 But I think it is fair to say 2008, the election of Barack Obama was an aspirational moment for

01:12:22.480 the country in 2008.

01:12:24.160 Obviously, I didn't vote for Obama.

01:12:25.420 I understood what he was.

01:12:26.200 But we're deeply initiated in politics.

01:12:28.200 I think for the average person in the country, they thought, elect a black man?

01:12:32.320 What a wonderful thing for us to do as a nation.

01:12:34.220 He speaks about unity.

01:12:35.240 And he speaks eloquently about unity.

01:12:37.540 And he speaks with a kind of authority about unity, because he's from the group that ostensibly

01:12:42.760 needs to be unified, that's not been part of the culture, you know, in the way that

01:12:49.320 that was perceived.

01:12:50.200 The problem is that, you know, everybody says this is the most important election of our

01:12:55.420 lifetime.

01:12:55.820 I'm starting to sound like Joe Biden.

01:12:57.320 Everyone always says that every election is the most important election of our lifetime.

01:13:00.720 And every election is very important and consequential.

01:13:03.180 The most important election of our lifetime was 2012.

01:13:05.560 Yep.

01:13:05.840 It is not this election, it was 2012, because 2008 was an aspirational vote for Barack Obama.

01:13:11.920 But by 2012, Obama had made a cynical political calculation to divide the country on race to

01:13:18.000 secure re-election because Mitt Romney was popular and was an actual threat to him.

01:13:22.800 I never liked Mitt Romney.

01:13:24.580 Mitt Romney was popular and was a threat to Barack Obama.

01:13:28.000 And he made that cynical calculation, he made it right out in the open, and we had one opportunity

01:13:32.660 to reject the fundamental transformation and all of the chaos that's ensued ever since.

01:13:38.340 You can say, well, Mitt Romney wouldn't have been a great president, Mitt Romney would

01:13:41.500 have been a squishy president, and electing Mitt Romney, all that's true, but electing

01:13:45.560 Mitt Romney would have been tacking back toward the traditional relationship between the

01:13:52.540 parties, the traditional relationship between the people and the government, traditional

01:13:55.900 American history.

01:13:56.760 It wouldn't have been about...

01:13:57.300 Instead, we tacked far away from that.

01:13:58.980 That's right.

01:13:59.200 It wouldn't have been about Romney being president.

01:14:00.940 That's correct.

01:14:01.380 It would have been about rejecting...

01:14:02.900 Rejecting Obama.

01:14:03.660 ...the argument that Obama was making, which is that there is a victim-victimizer complex

01:14:07.320 in the United States, and he was at the head of the Coalition of the Oppressed, rising

01:14:10.640 up against the system.

01:14:11.800 And when we miss that opportunity, everything else that's happened has happened as a result

01:14:17.020 of missing that opportunity.

01:14:19.180 And so, certainly voting for Obama in 2008 was because people liked the idea of Obama, but

01:14:24.420 voting for Obama in 2012 was a cynical decision by Democrats, and everything has been a reaction

01:14:30.380 since then.

01:14:30.860 That's my...

01:14:31.440 That's my take.

01:14:32.000 Yep.

01:14:32.240 No, I think this one.

01:14:33.100 Yep.

01:14:35.620 Why do candidates make so many lofty promises when they know they can't actually deliver?

01:14:40.260 How is that helpful for them?

01:14:42.020 Do the majority of voters not look at these things realistically?

01:14:45.520 I actually believe that voters are somewhat smarter than we give them credit for.

01:14:50.520 Or TV has an investment, whatever you want to call it, the screen, has an investment in

01:14:56.760 making us think that what we care about is witty lines at debates, and the way people

01:15:01.320 look, and the way they present themselves.

01:15:02.640 All those things are actually important.

01:15:03.880 We do live in a showbiz nation.

01:15:05.620 But people do understand that food is too expensive, that policies are not working, that

01:15:11.140 some policies are actually a threat to their freedoms.

01:15:13.440 People understand more...

01:15:14.680 Let me put it this way.

01:15:15.600 More people understand more of that than we give them credit for.

01:15:19.120 And so the promises, you know, they're showbiz.

01:15:23.100 They're part of politics.

01:15:24.280 They've been part of politics, of democratic politics forever.

01:15:26.820 As long as there have been people campaigning, they've made stupid promises.

01:15:30.880 But I think it's partly a cynicism that actually the people don't deserve.

01:15:35.400 People actually have some sense of what's going on, more sense of what's going on than

01:15:39.340 we ever give them credit for.

01:15:40.480 It's just because they have nothing else.

01:15:42.960 You know, they don't have actual policies that work.

01:15:44.820 And I would just say that there is a complete information overload.

01:15:49.080 Obama really introduced this into our politics.

01:15:51.820 It hadn't existed before that.

01:15:53.380 They always say there were no scandals during his administration.

01:15:55.640 He was scandal-free.

01:15:56.680 When the reality is he so overwhelmed us with scandalous behavior that you could never

01:16:02.360 focus on making any one of the scandals last or stick or be meaningful.

01:16:06.860 Also the press.

01:16:07.460 The press was completely subservient to him.

01:16:10.460 But this sort of shotgun effect has been our national reality ever since Barack Obama.

01:16:17.020 Politics comes at us so fast and so constantly now.

01:16:20.620 No one will ever remember any of the promises that Biden made.

01:16:23.520 I don't think we can blame Obama for the information overload.

01:16:26.740 That is the story of our time.

01:16:27.940 No, but he steered into it.

01:16:29.840 I think the minute that we, and this is just a historic argument, the minute that we expanded

01:16:35.380 the inherent power of the federal government, this was the wage.

01:16:39.840 Because as soon as the power, when the power was small, you couldn't promise things that

01:16:43.900 were completely undeliverable.

01:16:45.440 If you promised that you were going to put a chicken in every pot in the United States,

01:16:49.340 everybody's going to be like, hell, you don't have that kind of power.

01:16:51.340 That's not a thing you can do.

01:16:52.480 Be like me arguing that for my income, I'm going to give each person in the United States

01:16:55.840 a million dollars.

01:16:56.620 Like that's not possible.

01:16:58.140 And everyone would know that's not possible.

01:16:59.740 The minute that the government expanded its powers, what it did is two things.

01:17:02.620 It made an empty promise to the American people that it could use those powers for exorbitant

01:17:06.700 purposes.

01:17:07.340 And two, it did everything way more incompetently.

01:17:09.820 And that combination means that you get a spiral of promises.

01:17:12.400 Because what happens is that people look at the size of the government.

01:17:14.820 They're like, why can't the government fix this problem in front of me?

01:17:17.440 We spend $7 trillion a year.

01:17:18.820 Why can't we fix this problem?

01:17:20.780 A problem that the founders never would have thought the federal government should be in

01:17:23.220 in the first place.

01:17:23.880 It turns out the federal government can't fix that problem because the federal government is

01:17:26.300 crap at everything.

01:17:26.960 So instead, the federal government, but if you're a congressperson, you can't make the

01:17:31.280 argument we'll crap at everything because if you're crap at it, we'll replace you.

01:17:33.780 So instead what you do is you say, I will fix it.

01:17:35.880 You put me in charge of the $7 trillion federal government and I'll fix that problem for you.

01:17:39.220 Then you fail.

01:17:39.740 And you say, well, the reason that I failed is because I didn't have enough power, guys.

01:17:42.860 Obviously, if I had more power, then I mean, that's Joe Biden on the border, right?

01:17:46.840 He's obviously failing on purpose.

01:17:48.220 But if you just give him more power, then he'll fix all your problems for you.

01:17:52.240 And again, the only check that the American people had on that was the original constitutional

01:17:56.320 structure that limited the inherent power of the government.

01:17:59.240 As soon as it becomes a big grab bag of cash and power, then the person who promises to

01:18:02.900 do the most for you and your friends with it is going to win.

01:18:04.940 These are questions from our Daily Wire Plus subscribers.

01:18:09.780 They make it possible for us to bring you the show.

01:18:11.320 So we try to give them horrible answers to the questions.

01:18:14.700 What is your opinion on starting a boycott on CVS and Walgreens over the abortion pill?

01:18:20.500 Matt?

01:18:21.600 I mean, on an individual basis, if somebody decides they don't want to shop at a store like that

01:18:27.320 for that reason, I think that's perfectly noble.

01:18:29.500 Well, I wouldn't be in favor of announcing a boycott on CVS and Walgreens, or even one

01:18:38.600 or the other, certainly not both, because it will fail.

01:18:41.220 And the thing we learned with Bud Light is that you can have a successful boycott until

01:18:47.580 you have powerful people on the right who come along a year later and decide to undercut

01:18:50.620 it for ridiculous reasons.

01:18:52.200 But you can have a successful boycott, but you have to be very targeted and you have to

01:18:55.500 be smart.

01:18:56.540 You have to find a good target, a target you have a leverage over.

01:18:59.500 And that you could conceivably, you know, you could remove this from people's lives

01:19:03.720 and it wouldn't be a huge inconvenience to them.

01:19:08.120 You know, the problem on the right for so many years, the reason why we couldn't successfully

01:19:11.600 complete a boycott is because, you know, we're just, it's like every company is woke.

01:19:15.820 Every company is doing stuff we don't like.

01:19:17.140 And so we're just kind of firing randomly.

01:19:19.680 And, you know, something like Walgreens and CVS, you're just not.

01:19:22.420 People.

01:19:23.400 Where are you going to get your medicine?

01:19:24.420 They need prescriptions.

01:19:25.880 And so we can announce that and say, we're not going to go there anymore.

01:19:27.840 So, but it's legal.

01:19:30.380 I mean, and their pharmacies is kind of, it's kind of not quite the same thing as putting

01:19:35.160 Dylan Mulvaney on Bud Light.

01:19:36.960 Right.

01:19:37.220 It's just an insult.

01:19:38.220 It's just not, it's, it's, it's, it's a noble thing.

01:19:41.520 It's moral, but it's, it's not a smart strategy to announce a boycott like that.

01:19:46.000 I think that's right.

01:19:48.180 Next question.

01:19:48.800 Man, I live in California and all of my friends are liberal, but they hate Joe Biden.

01:19:52.740 Of course they hate Trump too.

01:19:54.000 How can I show them that while Trump may not be ideal, he's definitely better than Biden?

01:19:58.080 Oh, I have an answer to that.

01:19:58.980 You absolutely can't.

01:20:00.300 You can't do that.

01:20:01.220 You're never going to convince people, left people in California, California left us,

01:20:06.620 that Trump is anything but a monster.

01:20:08.660 Okay.

01:20:08.780 But generally on the left.

01:20:09.860 So here's what I'd encourage.

01:20:10.800 So I agree with this.

01:20:11.960 Your liberal friends break down into two categories.

01:20:13.740 The ones who will so do voce sort of say, oh man, I would hate to vote for Trump, but

01:20:17.420 if I, man, I might.

01:20:19.160 Right.

01:20:19.300 Those people, you can get those to vote for Trump and they probably will.

01:20:21.920 The people who are like, I hate Biden, but man, Trump is so much worse.

01:20:24.640 He's a jerk.

01:20:25.280 He's the worst person.

01:20:26.180 Trump is Hitler.

01:20:26.800 Right.

01:20:27.000 Trump is Hitler.

01:20:27.600 The Trump, Trump is Hitler.

01:20:28.540 People ain't going to vote for, for Trump.

01:20:30.900 Just convince them not to vote at all.

01:20:32.180 Yeah.

01:20:32.680 Right.

01:20:32.840 I mean, that's, that's the reality.

01:20:34.060 And you don't have to convince them.

01:20:35.220 You just be like, man, you're right.

01:20:36.840 This is what a, what a disheartening election.

01:20:38.480 You know, I, you know, like it's, I wouldn't be surprised if voter turnout's down this year.

01:20:42.660 It turns out that a vote not for Joe Biden is a vote that does not count it for, get

01:20:45.980 counted for Joe Biden.

01:20:46.960 You don't have to switch it over for Trump.

01:20:48.140 It's worth half a vote if he doesn't vote for Biden.

01:20:49.620 For, for years.

01:20:50.300 Just don't, I was going to say, don't, don't try to trick them by telling them that the,

01:20:55.300 the, the election's on a different day.

01:20:56.700 The election's on a different day.

01:20:56.920 Yes, of course.

01:20:57.760 If you tell them the election's on a different day, then, then Biden will throw you in prison

01:21:01.560 for 10 years or whatever.

01:21:03.860 Because he loves democracy and free speech.

01:21:04.440 You know, for, for years, many years, I've been telling my left wing Jewish friends that

01:21:10.240 all the antisemitism is on the left.

01:21:12.940 So I thought I would cash in on October 7th by saying, I told you so.

01:21:17.120 Will you change your vote now?

01:21:18.700 Not one of them, not one of them.

01:21:20.180 They all say, yes, this is terrible, but it's not Joe Biden.

01:21:22.660 He's a big supporter of Israel.

01:21:23.980 And I keep saying he's going to stab Israel in the back.

01:21:26.900 You know, everything he says, he is actually, as he's not the greatest supporter, as he said,

01:21:31.680 but he's been a fairly steady.

01:21:32.800 To speak for the Jews, I will say that, number one, I'm going to separate off my community.

01:21:37.800 The Orthodox community is going to vote 197% for Donald Trump.

01:21:40.800 That's just the reality.

01:21:41.860 We did last election cycle.

01:21:43.160 We did the election cycle before.

01:21:44.840 It'll happen again in 2024.

01:21:46.420 But with that said, that's actually not my experience.

01:21:49.360 I've had a bunch of people who are liberal to kind of moderate left Jews who are quietly

01:21:54.820 saying to me, like people who I haven't talked to politically, just people I know from

01:21:58.340 my life, who have called me up since October 7th and been like, I cannot vote for this party.

01:22:01.920 This party has lost it.

01:22:03.580 I can't vote for this party.

01:22:04.700 Well, I believe that's happening.

01:22:05.720 Yes.

01:22:05.880 I'm just telling you, my experience is, I say these things to people, and it's like hitting

01:22:09.900 a wall.

01:22:10.660 It's like hitting a wall.

01:22:11.200 You're also in California and New York.

01:22:12.420 Well, that's true.

01:22:12.980 That is true.

01:22:13.840 Yeah.

01:22:14.080 It is also the case that if you believe, as people have allowed themselves to believe,

01:22:20.560 that Trump is Hitler, nothing is worse.

01:22:23.100 Nothing can.

01:22:23.800 It doesn't matter what else happens.

01:22:25.040 Which is funny because, I mean, on the other side, you have people who literally are standing

01:22:31.540 with people who like Hitler.

01:22:33.280 So that's interesting.

01:22:34.480 Yeah.

01:22:34.620 It wasn't great.

01:22:38.440 Isn't it illegal to use the State of the Union as a campaign speech?

01:22:41.920 The Hatch Act doesn't apply to the president, but surely this is illegal.

01:22:46.740 Well, I mean, because the Hatch Act doesn't apply to the president, it's not.

01:22:49.340 But would it be if you were not the president?

01:22:52.180 Yeah.

01:22:52.320 I mean, that was a campaign speech.

01:22:53.120 And he was obviously using the State of the Union as a campaign speech.

01:22:55.740 Again, that's another thing.

01:22:56.960 I think that the Americans who like the State of the Union, who are the ones who are most

01:23:00.480 likely to be affected by the State of the Union, are not going to like this approach

01:23:04.060 to the State of the Union.

01:23:05.160 Yeah.

01:23:05.280 If you're like us, you and me, we hate the State of the Union generally.

01:23:09.100 Or Matt, you and me, and we're happy to see eggs thrown at the president and all

01:23:11.940 that.

01:23:13.320 Again, no laws to be violent.

01:23:15.320 But we're different.

01:23:17.580 The people who are watching the State of the Union because they want to see the pomp and

01:23:19.840 circumstance, like the Oscars of presidential politics.

01:23:22.540 And then they see the president roll on in there with his Harley-Davidson jacket on and

01:23:26.500 be like, I hate all yous all.

01:23:29.440 I'm not sure that's going to rub everybody the right way.

01:23:32.720 Who do you anticipate Trump will choose for his VP and why?

01:23:36.540 Himself.

01:23:38.260 Amazing.

01:23:38.700 Yeah, I kind of think, I think some of the predictions are probably off because, well,

01:23:44.840 first of all, I don't think Trump wants a VP who he feels will get more attention than

01:23:51.940 him or overshadow.

01:23:53.020 That's why something like Vivek, I don't think that's going to happen.

01:23:56.020 Or people saying, Tucker, not a chance.

01:23:57.460 Yeah, there's no chance.

01:23:58.600 So it would have to be someone who he feels is politically advantageous, but won't overshadow

01:24:06.020 him.

01:24:06.260 And I'm not exactly sure.

01:24:07.420 Tim Scott.

01:24:08.300 That's what, you know, I was going to say.

01:24:09.500 Tim Scott.

01:24:10.940 Which I don't know.

01:24:11.280 So he also, Trump likes to do this thing where he's like, I will cast this like a movie because

01:24:14.720 he's a producer.

01:24:16.660 So who looks like a vice president in that group?

01:24:19.740 He's like, oh, it's a racially diverse, united colors of Benetton cabinet.

01:24:24.820 And here's Tim Scott, who has kissed the ring and has been as subservient as I've made him

01:24:28.760 be.

01:24:29.540 And then he will stand beside me.

01:24:30.720 I think it's Kristi Noem, I can see.

01:24:33.060 Maybe, although the personal life is dicey.

01:24:37.080 I also, I don't think that Trump wants a woman.

01:24:41.100 I actually don't think he wants a woman.

01:24:42.220 Because I think that he's afraid that it will overshadow his campaign.

01:24:46.700 So I think right now that Tim Scott is the obvious kind of front runner right now.

01:24:52.260 That is my guess as well.

01:24:53.320 Yeah.

01:24:53.500 Which I find very dispiriting.

01:24:55.060 I know who I think should be chief of staff.

01:24:57.860 I think Jim Jordan should be chief of staff.

01:24:59.680 Because personally, I think the chief of staff is going to be the most important person in

01:25:03.280 the next administration.

01:25:05.140 And he loves Trump.

01:25:06.600 He's been, you know, Trump's pal.

01:25:08.580 He's incredibly smart.

01:25:09.640 He knows how everything works.

01:25:10.680 And I think that he could actually run a good government while Trump is doing whatever

01:25:14.340 the hell Trump is going to be doing.

01:25:16.180 Yeah.

01:25:16.900 Well, there will be, if Trump is to serve another four years as president, there will be at least

01:25:20.800 five chiefs of staff.

01:25:22.500 So getting Jim Jordan in.

01:25:23.620 Yeah, the first, I meant the first three months.

01:25:25.280 Definitely could happen.

01:25:26.280 A prop.

01:25:27.980 Let's see if we have any more questions from our Daily Wire plus subscribers.

01:25:32.020 Do you guys think that the VP pick really matters?

01:25:38.080 Nope.

01:25:38.640 No, not at all.

01:25:39.280 Nope, it's stupid.

01:25:40.020 Makes zero difference.

01:25:40.860 VP's a dumb office.

01:25:41.540 It only exists when Joe Biden dies.

01:25:43.060 Kamala Harris is president.

01:25:44.560 Ugh.

01:25:45.920 Can we get some Dr. Dreadle t-shirts in the VW shop?

01:25:48.680 Absolutely.

01:25:49.180 Oh, come on.

01:25:49.780 I will say that the fax, from what I've been told, the fax sweatshirt that I wear in that

01:25:55.620 amazing rap video, that piece of high Western art, is one of the top selling items we have

01:26:01.180 ever had in our e-commerce department.

01:26:02.940 That it is, in fact, a monster smash hit.

01:26:04.780 It was a big hit.

01:26:05.760 I have to say that Dr. Dreadle may be one of my top five Daily Wire jokes, I think.

01:26:11.000 I agree.

01:26:12.120 I wish we made it up.

01:26:13.780 We did not.

01:26:14.120 We did not.

01:26:14.880 We stole it.

01:26:15.700 Who made it up?

01:26:16.460 I think it was terrible memes.

01:26:18.200 I think you're right.

01:26:19.020 I think it was terrible memes, and it was...

01:26:20.980 It's spectacular.

01:26:21.860 Yeah.

01:26:22.040 It is real, and it's spectacular.

01:26:23.100 Yes.

01:26:23.840 Can you please articulate why Trump's many character flaws do not disqualify a Christian

01:26:28.480 to vote for him?

01:26:29.680 I could tackle this one.

01:26:32.640 Can we get a King David reference?

01:26:39.700 An interesting thing happens in the Bible.

01:26:41.900 You know, Paul kind of expounding on Jesus saying, render unto Caesar what is Caesar's.

01:26:49.440 Paul makes this point that you should obey the governing authorities and basically stay

01:26:53.680 out of revolutionary politics.

01:26:56.020 And I think that was a really pragmatic thing for Paul to say, because the early church would

01:26:59.880 have just been stamped out if it had taken any other position.

01:27:03.700 But I also think that there's theological truth to it as well.

01:27:08.960 Well, but something does happen in a republic.

01:27:13.820 There was no republic at the time that Paul was writing.

01:27:16.180 The Roman Republic had been supplanted by the Roman Empire, and the Jews didn't live

01:27:22.700 in a republic.

01:27:23.260 Obviously, they were colonized by imperial Rome.

01:27:26.120 But in a republic, in a democratic republic, the government is comprised and given its

01:27:36.340 power by the people.

01:27:37.540 And in that sense, what Paul said, or what Christ said, render unto Caesar what is Caesar,

01:27:42.180 it's not that that isn't still true.

01:27:44.440 It's just that that relationship looks much different.

01:27:46.760 You have a role in the government.

01:27:48.860 And so it's not, I think, a fair New Testament position that you shouldn't be involved in the

01:27:55.100 government when you live in a democratic republic.

01:27:57.380 So to the extent that you do exist in a democratic republic, you have responsibilities.

01:28:02.520 And one of those responsibilities is your vote.

01:28:05.860 You don't always, in an electoral system, have the opportunity to vote for a great person.

01:28:13.240 You very rarely have the opportunity to vote for a great person.

01:28:15.840 You don't always have the opportunity to vote for a particularly good person.

01:28:20.820 Nevertheless, you do have a vote.

01:28:23.480 And that vote does come with responsibility, and it is a kind of power to impact the government.

01:28:28.920 And so the choice before you in this election, I could not vote for Donald Trump in the primary.

01:28:34.660 Even though Ron DeSantis has already suspended his campaign, I voted for him in the Tennessee

01:28:41.380 primary on Super Tuesday.

01:28:42.660 Why?

01:28:42.880 Because a primary is a party preference election, and I do not prefer Donald Trump to represent

01:28:49.520 him.

01:28:50.640 In a general election, however, it's not about my preference.

01:28:56.380 It's now we're down to a true binary.

01:28:58.840 Who is going to be the leader of the country?

01:29:01.440 To whom will I confer?

01:29:03.320 What little piece of power I have in a Republican system to represent me and to represent the country?

01:29:09.180 I don't have an option there for someone who I prefer, who actually has an opportunity

01:29:14.440 where my vote can make a difference and actually help them be elected president.

01:29:19.100 I saw this slightly differently in 2016.

01:29:21.360 I thought there were a lot of unknowns around Trump that could be as bad as anything.

01:29:27.180 I made a decision in 2016.

01:29:29.020 2020 was different because Trump had been president for four years, and I had seen some-

01:29:35.120 What it was.

01:29:35.700 Certainly he did bring some of the bad things I was worried about.

01:29:38.120 He brought some good things that I never thought in a million years that he would bring.

01:29:41.520 He didn't bring, and this is the critically important point, he didn't bring the worst things

01:29:46.500 that I feared in 2016 he might bring.

01:29:49.680 And so in 2020, he's a known quantity, and it became clear to me that even as a Christian

01:29:53.760 who objects to many of the behaviors of Donald Trump, when I'm actually looking at the policy

01:29:58.980 distinctions between Donald Trump and his opponent, Joe Biden, I need to use whatever

01:30:05.040 power I have not to endorse Trump, but to oppose the agenda of-

01:30:10.800 It's also better to say that in 2016, both you and I had the luxury of being in a state

01:30:13.840 that absolutely did not matter.

01:30:14.840 Wouldn't have mattered.

01:30:15.660 We were in California.

01:30:16.460 If we'd been to Ohio, I probably would have voted for Trump.

01:30:18.280 I think that's true.

01:30:18.800 We would have made a different calculation.

01:30:20.060 But you know, Antonin Scalia once said, when he is asked what it is to be a good Christian

01:30:25.100 judge, he says it's to be a good judge.

01:30:28.020 And I think that the same thing is true of being a good voter, and I think a good Christian

01:30:32.400 voter, that I'm not voting for the best Christian.

01:30:34.780 That's not what I'm voting for.

01:30:35.760 I'm voting for the best president that I think will win.

01:30:39.400 It's pretty simple.

01:30:40.240 The other guy wants to kill babies.

01:30:42.720 Trans kids.

01:30:44.160 Right.

01:30:44.520 And destroy the border, and he's hunting down pro-lifers and throwing them in prison.

01:30:47.460 And that's it.

01:30:49.000 Like, what is there to even think about?

01:30:51.500 That's right.

01:30:52.380 Again, your vote doesn't say that Donald Trump is the person who you would prefer to be president

01:30:58.060 out of all of the people.

01:30:59.520 It says that Donald Trump is who you would prefer to be president in a race against Joe Biden.

01:31:04.020 Of the people who's going to win, yeah.

01:31:04.900 One of them will be.

01:31:06.300 Do you guys think that we are realistically on the brink of World War III, and do you think

01:31:09.560 Joe Biden being a weak leader is a main cause of that?

01:31:12.100 I don't think we're on the brink of World War III, no.

01:31:15.240 I think that I could see a series of events that would lead to World War III, but you

01:31:18.860 can almost always see that.

01:31:20.020 And I think the situation we're in is directly caused by his weakness and his, especially

01:31:26.540 the chaos, the chaotic leaving of Afghanistan.

01:31:30.600 But, you know, the brink of World War III is a little, that's very strong for this situation.

01:31:35.920 Brink means like right here.

01:31:37.140 Yeah, that's the brink.

01:31:38.240 Well, okay, so I think that to be realistic, in order for there to be a World War III, you

01:31:42.880 have to think about which powers would be involved in that world war.

01:31:46.100 Russia does not want to go to nuclear war with the West.

01:31:48.680 That is not a thing that Russia is pursuing or interested in.

01:31:51.080 Russia does not want to go to conventional war with the West.

01:31:53.460 It would be the end of Russia.

01:31:55.020 Oh, my God.

01:31:55.480 They're getting destroyed by Ukraine, which is a second-rate military being armed with

01:31:58.460 our old weaponry.

01:31:59.680 I mean, so there's that.

01:32:01.220 I mean, where else could World War III come from?

01:32:03.980 Iran is not capable of fighting a World War III.

01:32:06.020 If Iran actually launched serious assaults on the United States, the United States would

01:32:09.940 end that regime inside of two weeks.

01:32:12.580 Like, really.

01:32:14.120 China is capable of theoretically fighting with us, but China also does not want to do

01:32:18.840 that.

01:32:19.040 They see themselves declining, but they don't have the strength to seriously challenge.

01:32:24.240 What they would do is make regional power grabs in places like Taiwan.

01:32:27.260 They don't want to get into like a real shooting war with the United States military.

01:32:29.820 Well, they're fighting a different kind of Cold War with America right now.

01:32:33.700 An information Cold War, a cybersecurity Cold War, a trade Cold War.

01:32:37.160 And it does resemble sort of the later stages of the Cold War in the sense that they have

01:32:41.340 a collapsing demographic, a collapsing economy, an expanding military-industrial complex, and

01:32:46.300 a containment policy that's a problem.

01:32:50.180 So, you know, that's not going to be a Cold War.

01:32:51.780 That'll be a bunch of regional wars around its borders, if anything.

01:32:55.020 But that said, we have more war in the world now than we have at any time during, really,

01:33:00.120 my lifetime.

01:33:00.800 Because in enough areas of the world, you have these wars that are cropping up.

01:33:05.440 Obviously, we had the war in Afghanistan, but that was like one place.

01:33:07.360 We had the war in Iraq, that was one place, and we were directly involved.

01:33:11.700 But in terms of like international conflagrations that could break out more broadly, we have

01:33:15.860 two major ones right now, one in the center of Europe and one, obviously, in the Middle East.

01:33:19.520 Both of those are Joe Biden's fault.

01:33:21.180 Both of those are Joe Biden's fault.

01:33:22.220 I mean, what's happening in Ukraine, Joe Biden literally said a month before the invasion

01:33:26.680 of Ukraine that if basically Vladimir Putin just used the tip, he'd be fine, right?

01:33:33.040 He was like, if you just take part of Ukraine, then it'll probably be okay.

01:33:36.420 And Putin read that, and he goes, okay, well, what about if I go like further than that?

01:33:41.060 I mean, oops, oops.

01:33:42.560 And so there was that.

01:33:44.000 There was the fact that he had already pulled out of Afghanistan and obviously had no stomach

01:33:47.720 for any serious long-term conflict.

01:33:50.900 And communicated that very pronounced way to the world.

01:33:52.660 Yeah, right.

01:33:53.020 It was his belief that he could split Europe based on European dependency on gas.

01:33:56.980 And so he made a miscalculation.

01:33:58.780 But that miscalculation was caused by Joe Biden's appearance of weakness.

01:34:03.240 In the Middle East, the real fact that there's not Afghanistan, obviously, the real factor

01:34:07.180 is re-engagement with Iran.

01:34:08.160 The attempt to re-engage with Iran, the attempt to re-center Israeli-Palestinian policy at the

01:34:13.540 center of Middle Eastern policy is the single worst foreign policy mistake of my lifetime.

01:34:17.860 You had a burgeoning peace deal between a wide variety of Sunni states in the Middle East

01:34:23.320 and Israel.

01:34:24.320 All it would have taken for Saudi to sign on to a full normalization day one is like this

01:34:29.460 much.

01:34:29.960 All Biden would have had to do is basically just pat MBS on the back.

01:34:33.960 Normalization would have happened.

01:34:35.260 Hamas is now trapped and Iran is contained.

01:34:36.900 It was like this close.

01:34:38.280 And if Trump had been re-elected, there is zero doubt.

01:34:40.900 I mean, less than zero doubt that that absolute 100% that would have happened.

01:34:45.420 The first thing that Biden did is he came and he wrecked everything.

01:34:47.380 He came in and he delisted the Houthis, which are Saudi's enemies, as a terrorist organization.

01:34:52.120 He started renegotiating using Robert Malley, an Iranian cutout, as his go-to guy.

01:34:56.460 He started talking about how Israel needed to make concessions to the Palestinian authority

01:35:00.200 and Hamas, both of which are Iranian-funded enterprises at this point.

01:35:04.140 I mean, all of these things simultaneously led Iran to believe that if they push hard

01:35:08.580 enough, they're going to be able to scuttle all peace in the Middle East while killing

01:35:12.660 a bunch of Jews.

01:35:14.260 And to be fair to them, strategically, so far, that's been a success.

01:35:18.900 I mean, strategically, by launching the war and forcing Israel, because what else are they

01:35:22.900 going to do?

01:35:23.480 To then go in and wipe Hamas out.

01:35:26.100 They have obviously put any peace deal on hold because all the domestic populations in

01:35:29.200 places like Saudi Arabia are not going to be super happy.

01:35:31.780 But beyond that, the next move the Biden administration is making is even more insane.

01:35:36.320 The idea that the United States is going to put its force and weight behind a Palestinian

01:35:40.140 state in the aftermath of the Palestinian government fomenting the worst terror attack in my lifetime

01:35:49.160 or my parents' lifetime is so batshit insane that all it's going to do is lead other terrorist

01:35:55.280 groups in the Middle East and think, OK, I mean, push where there's mush, man, go.

01:35:58.100 I think we are the closest to a third world war that we have been in my lifetime, with

01:36:03.960 the possible, possible exception of the early days of the Reagan administration.

01:36:11.700 But I don't think that even compares.

01:36:13.900 I think we're the closest we've been to a third world war in my lifetime, and I still

01:36:17.400 don't think we're all that close.

01:36:18.460 Yeah.

01:36:19.100 Can we get the beer a bit one more time?

01:36:22.020 No, if the button works.

01:36:23.560 Thank you for prouting me on that.

01:36:25.240 I think it's a great bit.

01:36:26.360 Thank you.

01:36:26.740 It's a good classic.

01:36:38.520 I just live to humor you here, Matt.

01:36:40.840 We have a clip from Michael Knowles.

01:36:42.980 We were hoping he might be able to make it to a studio across from the Capitol, but we

01:36:46.580 don't even have that clip.

01:36:47.600 No, they literally said in my ear, we have a clip from Michael Knowles if you want to

01:36:50.840 play it.

01:36:51.120 And then as soon as I started talking to you, fine people, about that clip, they said,

01:36:55.000 we don't have a clip.

01:36:56.340 It actually is just a picture of Michael Knowles, as it turns out.

01:37:00.680 And it's not all that great.

01:37:03.000 I mean, I won't say he looks amazing in this picture.

01:37:04.820 It's not his best look.

01:37:06.080 I've seen him look better.

01:37:07.000 No, he's not better.

01:37:07.480 Not much better.

01:37:08.220 Not much better.

01:37:08.940 I mean, like, he's within margin of error, probably.

01:37:11.620 Michael, has Michael ever been happier than being at the State of the Knowles?

01:37:15.220 He pretended that he didn't want to be there when I saw him this morning.

01:37:18.200 He wants to not do things.

01:37:19.160 And he totally wants to.

01:37:20.100 Nobody's ever been happier.

01:37:20.800 It's the swamp.

01:37:21.140 Where else would he be?

01:37:22.820 Michael is to going to the State of the Union, as you are to directing films.

01:37:27.680 I really don't.

01:37:28.660 But a little I do.

01:37:29.820 A little, yeah.

01:37:30.680 A little.

01:37:31.220 A little.

01:37:33.660 I'll say one more thing about the Third World War, which is, I do think, I do think

01:37:38.360 that we're.

01:37:38.860 I just think we're going to start sentences that way.

01:37:40.400 Yeah.

01:37:40.540 I do think that we're at a fairly high likelihood of finding ourselves in the

01:37:44.940 United States in a war.

01:37:46.520 Not a Third World War.

01:37:48.480 I think we're at a very high likelihood right now.

01:37:50.340 With Biden's announcement today, I think we're like five minutes away from the United

01:37:52.820 States having to shoot things at people in Gaza or at Hezbollah.

01:37:57.580 You bring a bunch of ships right off the coast there.

01:37:59.420 All it takes is one rogue Hezbollah agent firing a rocket in an American ship, and suddenly

01:38:03.640 America's active in Lebanon.

01:38:04.860 I mean, like, that's, this is, it's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard in my

01:38:07.660 entire life.

01:38:08.280 Terrible.

01:38:08.560 As somebody who does not want American boots on the ground in the Gaza Strip, I would much

01:38:12.420 prefer that we not put American boots on the ground two meters from the Gaza Strip.

01:38:15.920 Wait a minute.

01:38:16.600 I saw on X that you're an evil Jew who's trying to get Americans caught.

01:38:20.100 Aside from that.

01:38:21.660 Aside from that.

01:38:22.660 You mean you can't believe everything?

01:38:23.940 Obviously.

01:38:24.560 I mean, listen, in my status as a Mossad agent, I have to cover for my actual view.

01:38:31.080 How are we looking on that Michael Knowles clip?

01:38:32.800 I don't think we're going to get it.

01:38:37.260 Gents, I wanted to come to you live, but unfortunately, the deep state has conspired to shut down our

01:38:43.600 signal here.

01:38:44.200 But we're just right here in the Capitol.

01:38:46.260 I'm with Congressman Ogles.

01:38:49.220 Congressman, you had a better view than I did, and you were there with some of the hecklers

01:38:54.060 and the rowdy crowd.

01:38:56.460 So what did you think?

01:38:57.060 Well, I was the first to speak to Joe Biden as he entered the chamber, and I pointed to

01:39:01.940 my pen and said, Lakin Riley, and it didn't even ring a bell to him.

01:39:06.980 And when I pointed to my pen, he simply said, I like your pen.

01:39:10.180 And then later in the speech, when he said her name, he actually pronounced it incorrectly.

01:39:14.220 So the guy's clueless.

01:39:15.580 The lights were not on upstairs for Joe Biden.

01:39:19.100 He had some energy.

01:39:20.520 But I mean, you could clearly tell that he wasn't with him.

01:39:22.960 Michael Knowles and congressman from our great state of Tennessee, Congressman Ogles, who

01:39:28.360 just attended the president's speech.

01:39:31.280 We've done all that we can do, fellas.

01:39:33.120 I think that we have...

01:39:34.540 We've done it.

01:39:35.140 We've done it.

01:39:35.900 We've delivered the people wonderful commentary.

01:39:38.000 So guys, what do you think about Return of the Jedi?

01:39:39.720 What's that?

01:39:40.280 Return of the Jedi.

01:39:40.720 We look forward to seeing you on the next Daily Wire backstage.

01:39:43.940 Thanks for hanging out with us tonight.

01:39:45.420 Good night.

01:39:45.700 Good night.

01:39:52.960 Good night.

The Matt Walsh Show - March 08, 2024

Daily Wire Backstage State of the Union 2024 Coverage

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