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00:00:30.000 Well, that was 90 minutes we'll never get back.

00:00:41.780 Truly a difficult night, I think, for President Trump. Kamala Harris accomplished, I believe,

00:00:48.520 what she needed to accomplish, which was just essentially having a pulse, right? Showing that

00:00:53.560 she is at least capable of giving an answer, even if it wasn't ever a particularly competent one,

00:00:58.300 or to any question that was actually asked of her. Whereas, you know, we needed to see

00:01:02.800 Donald Trump take on, it was obviously horribly moderated, perhaps the worst moderated debate

00:01:08.360 in history, but we needed to see that 2016 magic when Anderson Cooper tried to pull that same sort

00:01:13.720 of stunt on Donald Trump in one of his debates with Hillary Clinton, and Trump took on all comers.

00:01:19.280 Here, he was fact-checked, maybe on 50% of the questions that he was asked, he never wants.

00:01:24.700 Even when they lied, and they lied explicitly.

00:01:26.420 He didn't openly lie. He never once challenged them. On the whole, I think, a pretty difficult

00:01:31.220 night. So, here's my take on this particular debate. We're going to talk about it a lot today,

00:01:36.220 we'll talk about it a lot tomorrow, and a week from now it's not going to matter at all. And the

00:01:38.700 reason it's not going to matter at all is because nothing fundamentally changed here. The people of

00:01:42.820 America still don't know Kamala Harris. Donald Trump has not done his job in making sure that the

00:01:47.520 people of America actually know anything about her positions. 30% of Americans say they don't know

00:01:51.320 anything about her positions, and they still don't know anything about her positions,

00:01:53.860 because the moderators never pressed her on any of her positions, and Donald Trump didn't either.

00:01:58.860 On Donald Trump's side of the aisle, Donald Trump did not perform tonight. He didn't do an amazing

00:02:02.400 job calling her on her BS. The best thing he said all night was his closing statement, which is what

00:02:06.520 he should have opened with. He closed with, why didn't you do it? That should have been the very

00:02:10.180 first thing he said in the debate. And the fact that that wasn't what he said right off the top

00:02:14.600 was a mistake. He was also incredibly distractible tonight. He took the bait on nearly every question.

00:02:19.760 Every time she said something that you knew was going to get his goat, he just let it happen.

00:02:24.740 So for example, when she gave him the bait on his crowd sizes, on people are leaving your crowds,

00:02:30.660 they're leaving your alleys, he couldn't resist going after her about the crowd size. What about

00:02:35.040 January 6th? About the election of 2020? These are all distractions. The only thing that mattered

00:02:39.700 tonight for Donald Trump was defining her, and he did not define her, which means that I still

00:02:44.200 check the calendar. It was a couple months till the election. She is going to have to be defined.

00:02:47.640 The big takeaway from this is not going to be about Trump, who still remains Trump.

00:02:51.860 And it's really not going to be about Harris, who performed the best I think it's possible

00:02:54.480 for Kamala Harris to perform, which is to say she was fairly obnoxious. She lied a lot. She said a lot

00:02:59.380 of things that were untrue. She was never called on any of that. The big takeaway is going to be

00:03:04.460 the continued destruction of the legacy media on behalf of the Democratic Party. The legacy media have

00:03:09.640 decided, full scale, they are now apparatchiks of the Democratic Party. They are so far up Kamala Harris's

00:03:15.240 ass that they're doing active colonoscopies with their eyeballs. It's unbelievable watching David

00:03:20.140 Muir ask questions to Donald Trump like, why are you so bad and orange and mean? And then turning

00:03:24.220 to Kamala Harris and saying, and why is he so bad and orange and mean? It's absolutely insipid and

00:03:30.040 totally insane. The media tonight were beyond the worst expectations that I had for them. I thought

00:03:35.440 that they were going to do like a baseline creditable job because CNN did. Jake Tapper and Danavash,

00:03:40.080 they actually did that in the last debate. They actually asked questions and let people answer them.

00:03:43.420 David Muir became an active participant in this debate. Lindsay Davis became an active

00:03:47.300 participant in the debate. And then they never once fact-checked Kamala Harris, who lied over and

00:03:51.560 over and over. She lied. She said, for example, that Donald Trump was a backer of Project 2025.

00:03:56.700 A lie. She said that Donald Trump said there were very fine people on both sides of the Charlottesville

00:04:02.100 riots, including the neo-Nazis. That is a lie. It's been debunked repeatedly. They did not say that

00:04:06.960 that was a lie. She said that he had said that he was going to unleash a bloodbath on the country

00:04:10.340 if he lost. That's a full-scale lie. They never fact-check a single thing that she did the entire

00:04:14.880 night. And actually, that helps Trump. And it helps Trump for a very simple reason. If you are a Trump

00:04:19.840 fan, and if you think that Trump didn't actually perform unbelievably well tonight, which I think

00:04:23.800 is true. I don't think he did an amazing job tonight. The easy out is, yeah, because the media

00:04:28.520 were targeting him. And if you're a moderate watching this, I think that it had to be apparent even to

00:04:32.460 moderates, even to independents, the media want Kamala Harris elected. They're doing their best to make

00:04:37.240 sure that Kamala Harris is elected. So tomorrow, we'll revert right back to where we were before

00:04:41.800 this debate. We'll revert right back to Kamala Harris is vibes, and she is joy, and she is policy

00:04:47.180 vagary, and she'll never answer another question. She's going to try and get all the way from here

00:04:50.760 to the election without ever answering another question. There will be no more debates.

00:04:54.240 She's going to declare that she won. The media will declare that she won and that Trump lost.

00:04:57.580 Trump really has no interest in doing another debate because I frankly don't think that it's in his

00:05:01.360 interest to do another debate at this point. So that was the last presidential debate

00:05:04.060 of this election cycle. The bottom line is that when all is said and done, it seems like a lot of

00:05:09.800 this is baked into the cake. And in the moment, it's uncomfortable because it was such an opportunity.

00:05:13.640 You know, if you're like me and you're sitting there, you're like leaping out of your seat,

00:05:16.120 why won't he just say it? Why won't he just say it? It's very frustrating. She will say something

00:05:20.120 about how race shouldn't divide us. And you're sitting there going, what the actual living, like you are

00:05:26.600 a case in point of a person who divides based on race. It's what you do for a living. It's how you

00:05:31.560 became vice president of the United States. She will say things about Afghanistan. They'll ask

00:05:36.240 her about whether she has any regrets and she'll say no. And instead of him coming back and saying,

00:05:41.040 don't you regret the 13 dead American soldiers whose families you ignored? You're just waiting

00:05:45.620 for him to take the opening. But the problem was that he'd been set off earlier in the debate.

00:05:49.340 He was incredibly distractible. He was following every squirrel down every particular rabbit hole.

00:05:54.100 Again, the best moment I thought of the debate for Donald Trump was that closing statement

00:05:56.940 where he finally laid out the big question. If you say you have all these big plans,

00:06:00.560 why don't you do any of those things? But in the final analysis, I can be pissed at the media.

00:06:05.340 I can feel discomfort with how the debate went tonight. This is still a tight race. It's not

00:06:10.440 going to become a not tight race because of this particular debate, which means that tomorrow Donald

00:06:14.300 Trump better get up and he better decide that he's going to do for the rest of the campaign,

00:06:17.980 the thing he didn't do tonight, define her, define her positions. It can't just let J.D. Vance,

00:06:22.840 by the way, is doing an excellent job of this. J.D.'s doing a great job of this. Trump needs to do it.

00:06:26.940 He needs to actually do it. If he does that, he can still win the race and he still has the upper

00:06:31.380 hand. But this debate was, I'll say it was a blown opportunity at the very least.

00:06:36.640 I think that that part of it is, I seriously agree with you. I think the two things that Trump

00:06:41.440 did accomplish was he got ganged up on, which obviously he didn't do, but I think that was

00:06:46.500 really important. I think we do not see, we do not see how far the media has fallen in the eyes of

00:06:54.340 the American public. The fact that after that DNC, that ecstatic, loving, that love fest of a DNC,

00:07:01.740 Kamala Harris didn't get a bump, is telling us something about what the American public is

00:07:05.760 thinking about the media. They are watching the media. They get it. They've seen it. All the stuff

00:07:10.300 we all have been talking about all these years, I think that the people whose minds are open now can

00:07:15.660 see it. So that was good for Trump. I agree that Trump could have ended her. She was so,

00:07:20.060 she was better, way better prepared than she's ever been, but only as well prepared as I thought

00:07:24.700 she was going to be. I thought she did the job that she had to do and he could have ended her

00:07:28.560 and that's disappointing. But he didn't attack her personally and he did say, I don't agree that,

00:07:33.780 look, when he goes off the line and he chases the squirrel and he does it when his ego gets involved,

00:07:39.280 it's always really frustrating because you want him to stick to his script. But he didn't do it

00:07:43.960 throughout the debate. And for the first 30 minutes, I say, which is the most important part of any

00:07:48.640 debate, he actually stayed on track and said the things that he had to say. They were not as

00:07:53.240 powerful as they would have been had you been saying them. They weren't as powerful as they

00:07:56.320 would have been with somebody who could keep from rambling as much as he does. He was his usual self,

00:08:01.940 but a little better. That's what I would say about Donald Trump. And that's frustrating because it

00:08:05.720 would have been great if he had actually done what we wanted him to do. I think you're right that

00:08:10.420 this is not going to change the debate because of the bad behavior of ABC and because the people see

00:08:17.980 this. But I wish he'd ended her too. But at the same time, I think that if I had to say over the

00:08:25.220 time what we've got left, what the impression is going to be, it's that the media can't be trusted

00:08:30.140 and she is running a media campaign, a completely constructed campaign. I don't think that's going

00:08:36.560 to get us where we need to go, but I think it's going to be exactly as you say, we're going to stay

00:08:41.060 on track where we are now. I think Trump's leading. I think he's leading more than the polls say.

00:08:45.280 Remember, their polls are better than our polls, the ones that we see. And I think he's leading

00:08:49.660 more than they say. And I think he's got a serious chance. This certainly did not destroy that in

00:08:55.560 any way. Sorry, go ahead, Matt. I'll just say that I think the good thing for Trump is that there was

00:09:01.080 not a meltdown moment. There wasn't one thing that'll get clipped. I mean, a lot of things will

00:09:05.080 get clipped, but he didn't. It was a poor performance, but there was not one iconic meltdown

00:09:10.160 moment for him. Kamala, I agree with what's been said so far. I think she did as well as we could

00:09:17.600 possibly expect her to do. She also didn't have a great moment. I mean, the media will try to

00:09:22.320 manufacture a moment out of it. She didn't have one. Well, really, she had one. The moment of

00:09:28.080 the debate, if there was one, I think, was when she baited him on the rallies and when she said that

00:09:33.700 they leave the rallies early because they're bored. Obviously, they plan to say that for only one

00:09:38.700 reason, not because that part is compelling to the voters. We don't care about that. If Trump's

00:09:44.700 rallies are boring or not, we don't care. But she knew that Trump just cannot stand that, that you're

00:09:51.380 getting him right where it hurts the most. The idea that his rallies are boring is just, you are

00:09:56.980 stabbing him right in the gut with that. And I think he responded to that by rambling and getting

00:10:03.160 very defensive. And from my read of it, I think he never quite recovered from that. He got,

00:10:08.480 he was more visibly angry throughout the whole rest of the debate. His tone was angrier. He was a

00:10:14.640 little bit off kilter. I don't think he ever got quite back to it. But it was kind of spread out

00:10:19.780 throughout the debate. So it doesn't, so I think that because there's not the one moment that will

00:10:24.780 just be repeated, it wasn't like with Biden when there was a couple of moments of him not being able

00:10:30.220 to speak. That did happen. It means that probably two, three days from now, nobody's talking about

00:10:34.540 this debate. And you could say that even though Trump performed relatively poorly, if no one's

00:10:42.380 talking about it three days from now, then it's kind of a tie effectively. Yeah. And does a tie go to

00:10:47.200 the, to Trump on this one if he's sort of in the lead? That was. Thank God she didn't attack his golf

00:10:52.100 scores. Of course, right. That'd be the rest of the night. That was the moment when it shifted. So I

00:10:57.200 would say Trump won pretty decisively the first 20, maybe 25 minutes. She was visibly nervous. Her

00:11:04.320 voice was shaking. Physically, she might've been shaking. She was repeating rote answers that had

00:11:09.280 nothing to do with the question and were obnoxiously irrelevant to the question. So he was winning.

00:11:14.760 She shook him up. That was when I felt it was gracious of the moderators to allow her to try to

00:11:20.580 debate for the first 20 minutes. And then they decided, no, we're going to step in. And it was more

00:11:25.320 egregious than Candy Crowley in 2012. It was the most egregious I've ever seen. A complete disgrace

00:11:29.600 to, for David Muir and that other lady. Lindsay Davis. Lindsay Davis. What a clown show. A complete

00:11:35.340 disgrace. He, he won the closing statement. He, that was a very strong closing statement. Hers was,

00:11:40.500 was fine, but it was. Are you okay? Are you okay? I have a question. Do you want that from your

00:11:44.700 government? Do you want your government coming to me like, are you okay? How about like, not when you're

00:11:49.400 talking to me, I'm not. Like go away. The biggest takeaway for me, and it somehow it had not occurred to me

00:11:54.900 until that moment when she shook him up on the crowd sizes. Kamala Harris's superpower is that

00:12:01.040 she's quite good at manipulating men. And I don't mean that as a cheap shot or a provocation. She

00:12:06.360 started her political career by manipulating a married man, Willie Brown in San Francisco. Much

00:12:10.220 has been said about that. That's how she got her start. She became vice president. She couldn't win

00:12:15.200 one delegate in, in the 2020 primary, but she became president because she baited Joe Biden on that

00:12:22.260 debate stage. She called him a racist. She accused him of being the reason she wouldn't be allowed to

00:12:27.520 be bused to school. And she put him in a position where he had to pick a black woman for VP. And she

00:12:32.440 was the only one that he could have picked. And then she, she laid out that trap for Trump with,

00:12:37.300 with the question about crowd sizes. She is not great at retail. She's not good at speaking to people.

00:12:43.020 She doesn't know a damn thing about policy. She doesn't have a platform, but she's pretty good

00:12:47.000 at manipulating individual men. And especially when she was backed up with the full weight of

00:12:51.920 ABC News, it, it allowed her to make up for her deficiencies and land basically at a draw.

00:12:58.340 We're so good. It's so easy to manipulate.

00:13:00.680 That's right. I think that it would be true that a tie, I think it is true that a tie goes

00:13:05.320 to the person who's ahead. I'm not sure that I agree that Donald Trump is ahead. I don't think

00:13:10.800 that the polls have yet reflected that Donald Trump is ahead, although certainly her momentum

00:13:15.460 has abated and he has the opportunity, but he isn't taking the opportunity. And I think the

00:13:20.880 thing I disagree with you the most about, Drew, is this idea that everyone sees through the media.

00:13:25.260 You know, I think Gallup released a poll two weeks ago that said Democrat trust in the media

00:13:29.740 is actually precipitously rising. I'm talking about the people who are going to decide the election.

00:13:36.200 Yeah. Well, I don't, the people who are going to decide the election are not Republicans.

00:13:40.380 No, they're independents.

00:13:41.300 Yes. Yeah. And, and the question is also going to be how many Democrats show up. So I think the

00:13:46.860 big advantage that Trump had against Biden is the Democrats weren't showing up to the polls,

00:13:49.720 right? They were so depressed that they weren't going to show up. They're not going to have a

00:13:52.260 turnout problem. I think that, that after, after the performance that she gave tonight, Democrats

00:13:56.560 are in a good mood. You can see they're in a good mood. They're going to be in a good mood.

00:13:59.120 You're going to get a lot more vibes. It's going to be vibes up the wazoo for the next couple of

00:14:03.100 weeks. And, and this is where I'm, you know, at a certain point it becomes almost criminal

00:14:08.160 politically to miss as many opportunities as president Trump is currently missing.

00:14:11.440 Yes. It is his job not to miss the opportunities. And listen, we got two months to go. Maybe he

00:14:15.620 starts hitting the opportunities. That's the thing you want. But since he, since Biden was swapped out

00:14:20.620 for the, the brand new coat of paints on the broken up jalopy, masquerading as a Lamborghini,

00:14:24.800 since that happened, he has not found his footing in terms of actually doing his job, which is to

00:14:29.820 define her in the mind of the American public. And he had every opportunity to do that tonight. And he

00:14:33.840 didn't take any of them. He, at the very beginning, the very first question, right out the gate,

00:14:37.720 right out the gate for her was, are you better off economically than you were four years ago?

00:14:42.600 Now, his answer should, he should not even listen to her answer. He should not even listen. He should,

00:14:47.040 as soon as they come back to him, as soon as he realizes what she's doing, which is she's now

00:14:50.420 going to avoid the question, which she did just start wandering all over the landscape in search

00:14:53.640 of an idea for the next two minutes. As soon as they came back to me, she said, you know what I

00:14:57.600 noticed? I noticed you didn't answer that very simple question because it has a very simple answer.

00:15:01.460 Of course, you're not better off than you were four years ago. You've done a terrible job. Joe Biden has done a

00:15:05.500 terrible job. You're the current vice president of the United States. And then he should have dumped

00:15:08.800 in what he said at the end. You have all these big plans to change the country. Where are you? Why don't

00:15:13.460 you go do them right now? I noticed you've done none of them, right? I mean, like, in the first five

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00:16:51.560 backstage. You know, Donald Trump missed a lot of opportunities. He's been missing the opportunity

00:16:59.400 to define Kamala Harris since she became her party's nominee. He missed a lot of opportunities

00:17:05.640 tonight, I think, as you've described, to clock her. But the biggest missed opportunity of the night

00:17:11.960 had nothing to do with Kamala Harris. He missed the opportunity to run against the media. They fact

00:17:18.600 checked him and fact checked him and fact checked him. They fact checked him when he was right.

00:17:22.800 They didn't fact check her when she would outright lie. She wasn't fact checked, I believe. She's not

00:17:27.800 fact checked a single time during the debate. And you can say, well, people see that. But only people

00:17:31.700 who are really plugged in, really paying attention, watching the debate all the way through, see those

00:17:36.760 things. You have to tell people. You know, the biggest lie told, I think, of the history of Hollywood

00:17:43.260 was told by the dearly departed James Earl Jones, if you build it, they will come. He didn't actually

00:17:50.080 say it. It was the script writer. That's a lie. You have to tell people about it before they will

00:17:57.140 come. And Donald Trump needed to, every single time that he was interrupted or fact checked or

00:18:02.940 corrected or essentially debated by the moderators, he needed to point that fact out. Because you need

00:18:08.460 those sound bites. You need to empower your team to be able to make the montage to show again and

00:18:12.380 again and again what's happening. I think that's the biggest missed opportunity of the night. It's

00:18:17.120 not the opportunity to frame Kamala, although that is a miss. It's the opportunity to frame who his

00:18:22.000 actual opponent is. You know, this is absolutely true. And one of the things about Trump that's

00:18:27.440 different is he's being a little bit more restrained. That has its good side. But the bad side is the

00:18:31.620 press is his enemy and the enemy of the people. And he should be saying it.

00:18:35.680 Somebody obviously told him within the campaign, don't hit the press, because it's his MO to hit

00:18:40.220 the press. I don't want to gloss over, though, the lie that they told. They didn't fact check

00:18:45.440 all sorts of lies from Kamala. But when Trump pointed out that there are prominent Democrats

00:18:50.780 in their states in this country where babies are killed after birth, and Lindsay Davis came out and

00:18:56.400 said, that is not true. There is no state where this is happening. Not only is that a lie, but Kamala

00:19:01.480 Harris's own running mate, Tim Walls, repealed protections for babies who survive abortions

00:19:07.060 in the state of Minnesota. Which survives abortion in this instance means are born.

00:19:12.120 Are born. So they try to kill the baby. The baby is born. There are legal protections in some states

00:19:18.160 that say if the baby is born, you have to provide medical care as you would to any other human being.

00:19:22.480 And Tim Walls, within the last two years, repealed those legal protections. That is Kamala's own

00:19:29.920 running mate. It is the most egregious lie. It blows Candy Crowley 2012 out of the war.

00:19:34.240 But you know how they get around that, though? Because in that case, what they do is they put

00:19:38.080 the baby to the side and leave the baby to just die. They don't directly kill the baby. And so

00:19:42.600 that's like the game they're playing. Well, if you just leave a child to die, you're not killing it.

00:19:46.880 Which Trump, you know, I mean, it would be a great thing to point out. I will say that on the

00:19:50.440 abortion question, that was Trump, I thought, had one really great moment. And it was actually one of

00:19:56.460 the best moments I've ever seen from a Republican presidential candidate. I agree. Because I've

00:19:59.980 never seen a Republican. I've been screaming forever. I want some Republican in a debate

00:20:04.160 to do this. It's never happened once that I can remember. And Trump did it. He turned to her and

00:20:08.580 said, OK, we've talked about the extreme cases. Would you support abortion in seven months?

00:20:14.560 Totally agree. And she didn't answer it. And she kind of and she pivoted back to him. So he should

00:20:21.220 have stayed there for longer. But that was a brilliant moment. And that's exactly what Republicans

00:20:25.300 should be doing. I think in our disappointment that he didn't just steamroller as she well

00:20:30.000 deserved. I think we did miss a bunch of moments like that. That was the best. That was definitely

00:20:34.420 the best. I've always me, too. I've always waited for somebody to say, oh, what's the date when you're

00:20:39.260 ready to stop? But he did a lot of a lot of good things on immigration. He did a lot of good things

00:20:44.080 on the economy. You know, he wasn't he wasn't bad. It was just that you sit here and you can see from

00:20:49.440 the outside that a guy with real debate skills, which he has never had, could have just swept her

00:20:55.260 way. So you're disappointed. But you also in being disappointed, you miss some of the good

00:20:58.820 things you really did. In a sort of weird way, there's, you know, what you feel right after you

00:21:02.900 watch the debate. And then there's what you feel in the 24 hours after the debate. Because it's

00:21:06.120 almost two separate processes now. The Internet has changed the way that people watch debates. So

00:21:10.660 I'll be curious to see who watched this thing, you know, soup to nuts the way that we just did.

00:21:14.400 When you when you watch the whole thing, the reason that those things disappear is because

00:21:17.560 he will get in the punch, but it's in the middle of a long rambling thing about a bunch of

00:21:22.440 other things. Right. The thing you said is he actually said it clearly and concisely. That's

00:21:25.960 I think one of the most clear, concise moments he had the entire debate. But he would throw a punch

00:21:30.340 and for a moment, you'd be like, that's a good punch. But it's in the middle of kind of mush.

00:21:34.700 And so because it's very hard to listen to Charlie Brown's teacher, you know,

00:21:38.860 going on at you, like when he finally throws the punch, sometimes it gets lost in translation.

00:21:43.900 However, this is what the Internet is made for. So half the stuff that he says that sort of

00:21:48.780 memeable will be memed within an hour. And so when we look at the Internet two hours from now,

00:21:53.880 there's going to be a bunch of moments where you're like, oh, I forgot that Donald Trump said

00:21:56.440 that. I didn't really remember him saying that because because, again, it all gets kind of lost

00:22:01.060 in the middle of this. Also, again, I think the Internet is going to do a very good job of

00:22:05.100 dissecting exactly what the moderators did last night. I think that there's going to be a montage.

00:22:09.180 And if there isn't, and I'm calling on all our fans to make one right now and I'll play it on the show

00:22:12.120 tomorrow, a montage of every fact check. Right. I mean, it was minutes of time that they were fact

00:22:16.500 checking Trump. I want a montage of every time they interrupted him. He'd be giving an answer

00:22:19.800 and they would say, I want to move on. David Muir would say, I want to move on. He was in the

00:22:24.260 middle of giving an answer about Afghanistan. There were many other things. Hammering Kamala

00:22:26.840 Harris. And David Muir would jump in and say, I want to move on. I have so many questions.

00:22:31.080 Who gives a sh? What you want, David Muir? Are you running for president? Why are you an

00:22:35.180 important person? What makes you an important human? Did they fact check her once? No. Zero times.

00:22:39.420 Zero times. The most egregious thing on this was in one paragraph, she did the very fine

00:22:43.580 people hoax. She did the blood, the bloodbath hoax. The most ridiculous. She did the, and she

00:22:48.920 did the stand back and stand by. You're in favor of the Proud Boys hoax, which all three of those

00:22:52.720 are nonsense. They didn't fact check that at all. And then when they did fact check him,

00:22:56.980 they lied. So they said, well, you know, the crime rates, Kamala Harris says the crime rates have gone

00:23:01.340 down. And then David Muir repeats like a zombie. Yes, the crime rates have gone down. And Trump says the

00:23:06.380 crime rates haven't gone down. The FBI has not reported all the crime rates, which is true. He's

00:23:10.200 actually correct about this. But because again, all the, when all the fact checks are directed at

00:23:14.580 one side, the media are clearly attempting to drive a narrative. And the narrative is

00:23:18.240 her narrative because her narrative at the beginning was, he's going to tell you so many

00:23:21.460 lies and they were going to be complicit in all of that. Now, again, he's going to have to go out

00:23:25.800 in the campaign trail. He's going to have to prove it. Yeah. He's got his talking points.

00:23:28.720 But you're making, you're making like a huge point though. That is really, it really is important.

00:23:32.600 Part of this thing I was talking about before the debate about the, the way the impression sinks in

00:23:37.520 over time. And it doesn't take that much time. It doesn't, it's not going to take 50 days,

00:23:41.520 but it has to do with the internet now, which it didn't before. Before it was kind of, you'd stick

00:23:45.500 in your head. You'd think about it. Now there's going to be a constant drumbeat of these memes

00:23:50.240 coming out. And I think a lot of them are going to be in Trump's favor. And I think that it's going

00:23:54.140 to, it's going to spread. People are, watch the news a different way that we haven't quite caught up

00:23:58.580 with. Can we say one thing about David Muir, by the way, it's not just what he did, but it's,

00:24:03.740 it's the attitude with which he did it. Sneering condescension, ashamed of himself to have to be

00:24:10.340 in a room with Donald Trump, proud of himself to show everyone that he was willing to stand up

00:24:16.360 constantly to Donald Trump. I mean, they're, they're, I'm not the most effusive in my Trump

00:24:24.640 praise, I think, person at the Daily Wire. They're disdained for him. They're scorned for him. They

00:24:29.840 can't even hide it. It's not that they can't hide it. They don't even want to try to hide it.

00:24:34.700 They want you to see it so that you know that they are good people, so that you know that they're

00:24:38.940 the thing that Trump is most right about. It's not disdain for him. It's disdain for us. And he's in

00:24:44.020 the way and he's, it's the people who voted for him that they hate and they've hated him for 50,

00:24:48.760 60 years. And ironically, I think the media, it might end up that the media bailed him out because if the

00:24:54.700 story of the debate ultimately is that it was three against one, and this was the most unfair debate we've

00:24:59.440 ever seen, which it was, then that's automatically a win for Trump if that becomes a story. It's up

00:25:04.080 to, like, to your point, it's up to Republicans to make that the story, which shouldn't be too hard

00:25:08.780 to do. The thing that's very difficult, I think, about this moment is that because there are no

00:25:13.420 more inflection points, the debates were held so early this year, right? You had the debate that

00:25:17.100 knocked Biden out. That was in June. That never happened. You had a debate in June. That's crazy.

00:25:20.920 And then this debate, normally it would be debate number one, right? You now have two more that

00:25:24.720 were coming, which would give the incumbent time. Trump's not even the incumbent, but the

00:25:28.440 freedom is the incumbent. It would give him time to have to recover. This is going to be the only

00:25:31.980 debate, which means we have now run out of inflection points in this election cycle, right?

00:25:35.460 There are no organized inflection points. Oh, you sweet son.

00:25:39.480 No, no. What I mean by that is notice how I changed the planned inflection points. There will be

00:25:45.480 exogenous events that occur between now and November, and nobody knows what they are. That's

00:25:50.320 leaving the election to the winds of chance. And that's why it felt like, I think, a little bit of a

00:25:54.680 gut punch to a lot of us who want Trump to win, or from donors who organize fundraisers for him.

00:25:58.900 You know, it feels like a gut punch because it's like, when the opportunity is in front of you,

00:26:03.060 if you would just seize it, it's just right there. It's right there. Just do the thing.

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00:27:13.200 from our members throughout the broadcast. Beginning right now with this first question,

00:27:17.120 for the entire group, what are your thoughts on Trump's I'm speaking moment?

00:27:22.120 That was cute. It was funny. It was good. The I'll Buy You a MAGA hat was good.

00:27:25.460 I'll Buy You a MAGA hat was terrific. Obviously, the I'm speaking moment was planned in advance because

00:27:31.460 that is Kamala's trick. If you remember from her vice president debate against Mike Pence,

00:27:36.560 she constantly used that line to sort of show that he was beating up on a woman,

00:27:40.760 I think, was sort of her. And he just took that right away from her, which I thought was a pretty

00:27:44.080 great thing. He can't help but put the button on the joke.

00:27:46.860 Yeah, I thought this was. Right. I'm speaking. Get it? Get it?

00:27:50.340 Sounds familiar. It would have been obviously a lot more telling if the mics had been on.

00:27:55.800 Part of the problem is that the mics are muted. So when she's talking, you can't hear what she's

00:27:59.000 saying back to him. I actually think the mics being muted really helped her tonight because she kept

00:28:02.080 trying to slip in things. You could actually hear it off mic for saying things like over and over and over.

00:28:06.560 Exactly, yeah. And by the way, the split screen for her, I don't think was particularly flattering.

00:28:10.160 I mean, she's making a lot of faces tonight. The one thing that she has studiously avoided,

00:28:13.480 I'll give her credit for this, the crazy laugh is gone. Have you seen the crazy laugh on the

00:28:16.960 campaign trail? Yeah. That was like the most indicative tick of every time she was lying

00:28:20.220 for her entire vice presidency. Yeah. And this is a woman who takes stage direction really well.

00:28:24.500 I mean, they told her, do not laugh ever again for the rest of your life.

00:28:28.400 And you will be president. And you'll be president. And she's doing it. I will give that to her.

00:28:31.980 It did remind me a little bit of her mugging on the split screen. Reminded me a little bit of Al

00:28:38.400 Gore. Remember when Al Gore did that to George W. Bush? Yeah. It was distracting and ugly. It was

00:28:45.080 unattractive and unappealing as an emotional thing. You know, just watching that. I don't know how much

00:28:50.040 that works. I do wonder if you process these things sort of as you think about them. I do wonder how it

00:28:55.160 appeared to people who may not be in our financial position. What I mean by that is if you're a blue-collar

00:29:00.620 worker in the Rust Belt. And you're watching Kamala Harris speaking about the vibes and about

00:29:05.240 Donald Trump and January 6th and all this kind of stuff. And at no point does she ever acknowledge

00:29:10.080 anywhere in the debate that there's any problem for anyone in America. She laughed at inflation.

00:29:15.520 She did put her little smile on. I do wonder if that is a point that needs to be drawn out by the

00:29:21.420 Trump campaign, which is you at no point assumed, I mean, you say, come to us if you're not okay.

00:29:27.800 There are a lot of people in the country who are not okay. And if I were going to cut an ad based

00:29:31.160 on that debate, I would say Kamala Harris, use that clip of her saying, what I'm asking is,

00:29:35.120 are you okay? And then say, America's not okay. America is not okay. And it's not okay because of

00:29:40.940 you. But here's the thing. If you do want to be okay, then you need to be healthier. You know,

00:29:46.460 let me talk about something else I'm passionate about aside from political debate. And that of course

00:29:50.600 is fitness. I've been regularly exercising for years now, as you can see from this chiseled,

00:29:55.480 God-like physique has become a major part of my daily routine. We should see the shockingly

00:30:00.780 defined biceps. And you will, if you become a daily wire subscriber. Recently though, I started

00:30:05.360 to hit a wall in terms of the progress that I was seeing. I do work out a lot, but I realized there

00:30:09.040 was a missing piece. The fact is I eat like an idiot. You can see me doing it literally on the

00:30:12.900 set right now. I'm having like jelly beans and popcorn all night long as I nerve eat and all the rest

00:30:17.940 of this. You can exercise all you want, but if you eat like crap, if you don't have the information

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00:30:47.520 It told me I'm at a level three, which means I'm equally burning fats and carbs. So for today,

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00:31:28.720 Can I say, on a completely non-political topic, you're in really good shape and nobody knows it.

00:31:35.880 I know, right? It is one of the real, it is truly one of the downsides of your religious belief.

00:31:42.140 This is getting kind of gay now, I'm sorry. Listen, it's only a little gay.

00:31:45.380 There are other downsides of your religious beliefs, which we should talk about off air.

00:31:51.220 But the ever-present flaming, in any case, yeah. But the fact that you people are modest

00:31:58.460 really works against you because you actually do work out as much as anybody I know.

00:32:03.940 Yeah. I clock in at a hefty 11% body fat.

00:32:08.820 I don't know if that means that. I don't know if that was good or bad.

00:32:11.680 It means basically I'm an Olympian, is what I'm telling you right now.

00:32:14.540 I am somewhat curious to learn more.

00:32:17.100 I haven't even mentioned the fact that I can still walk. I don't know.

00:32:21.700 You are also incredibly physically fit.

00:32:23.420 Well, I work out a lot.

00:32:24.560 You work out a lot and you walk uphill, straight uphill.

00:32:27.020 Yeah.

00:32:27.460 We've been talking about doing a push-up contest for years now, so it's got to happen one of these days.

00:32:31.240 I mean, the other day we did the pull-up thing, right?

00:32:32.500 We did do a pull-up contest.

00:32:33.640 Pull-ups are hard, man.

00:32:34.760 Can we talk about how sexy I am? Why are we just talking about Drew and Ben?

00:32:37.100 We did do a pull-up contest.

00:32:38.320 Right.

00:32:38.800 I will tell you this.

00:32:39.400 There were doubts.

00:32:40.280 Ben works out all the time.

00:32:41.560 Drew works out all the time.

00:32:42.920 And I used to work out with Michael Knowles.

00:32:44.800 That's true.

00:32:45.300 We did Krav Maga for about a year.

00:32:47.480 And you're crumbling in our shoes.

00:32:48.760 I have taken a punch from Michael Knowles.

00:32:50.720 Yep.

00:32:50.880 Have you really?

00:32:51.360 Yeah.

00:32:52.580 Somehow you survived.

00:32:55.500 Why was I not invited to the pull-up contest, first of all?

00:32:58.300 Oh, I mean, what's your top number?

00:33:00.380 Well, it was yours, and I'll tell you.

00:33:04.040 We actually have a pull-up bar right off of the set.

00:33:07.060 It would have been better than the debate.

00:33:08.320 Way better than the debate.

00:33:09.920 Yes.

00:33:10.800 Well, anyway, I'm just saying.

00:33:12.480 I appreciate that.

00:33:13.000 I'm like an old fat guy, but if I worked out as much as you,

00:33:15.980 I would look into religions that involve less modesty.

00:33:18.340 That's all I'm saying.

00:33:21.420 Here's another question from our DailyWire.com subscribers,

00:33:24.780 people who have availed themselves, perhaps,

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00:33:30.380 Do you think this is all baked into the cake at this point,

00:33:33.820 or is it all just theater?

00:33:36.600 I think that it's like, I'll say 80% baked into the cake

00:33:40.160 and maybe 20% not baked into the cake at this point.

00:33:44.200 It's not 100%.

00:33:45.220 The margins are not moving all that much.

00:33:47.320 It's not as though Donald Trump dropped down to 40% or 35%

00:33:50.280 because we were unhappy with his performance

00:33:52.040 or that Kamala Harris ramped up to like 53% in the polls.

00:33:55.320 What may have happened is that Kamala Harris nationally went from like 46 to 48

00:33:59.880 and Donald Trump went from like 46 to 45.

00:34:02.880 It's also a turnout game this late in the race.

00:34:04.880 People are already starting to vote.

00:34:06.340 And so a lot of what's happening now is also just about motivation.

00:34:10.780 The fact that we don't feel great today,

00:34:12.800 and we may, to your point, we may feel better about all of this tomorrow,

00:34:15.740 but you need to leave tonight with a good feeling.

00:34:17.540 You need your base, not just your base,

00:34:20.280 but you need all of your potential voters to actually do something about it and vote.

00:34:23.020 Right. I mean, I think that this is one of the problems that Trump has had,

00:34:26.500 and this is true basically since 2016.

00:34:28.540 In 2016, Republicans felt like this is a magical opportunity,

00:34:32.020 not only to get Trump elected,

00:34:33.320 but also to absolutely crush Hillary Clinton's dreams.

00:34:35.760 I mean, that's really so much of 2016 was,

00:34:38.320 we hate Hillary Clinton.

00:34:39.400 She's been around for 20 plus years.

00:34:40.720 She's the worst person in American politics.

00:34:42.420 I will walk over broken glass to vote against that human being.

00:34:45.220 And because Kamala Harris is kind of undefined,

00:34:47.580 I think that there's a little bit less of that.

00:34:50.300 And it's more like, how's your passion level on Donald Trump?

00:34:52.800 I think that's the biggest problem.

00:34:54.120 And so because of that, you know, again,

00:34:56.300 I think that he needs to ramp up the passion level for him or against her.

00:35:00.360 And that's why, again, I just keep coming back to,

00:35:02.400 when are we going to get the full takedown of Kamala Harris we so richly deserve?

00:35:07.140 When is that going to happen?

00:35:08.100 He started it tonight.

00:35:09.660 I actually want to interrupt because I have something,

00:35:12.280 there's actual breaking news, which rarely happens to us.

00:35:15.560 Kamala Harris's campaign is calling for a second debate.

00:35:18.440 Of course they are, because they think she won.

00:35:20.540 Vice President Harris is ready for a second debate.

00:35:25.320 We're looking for, the American people essentially, I'm paraphrasing, now quoting,

00:35:30.080 should see a second debate in October.

00:35:32.780 It's smart because they know he's going to say no.

00:35:34.900 Right.

00:35:35.200 So they just want to make him, put him in a spot to say no.

00:35:36.860 I don't think he will say no.

00:35:39.200 He's going to say no because what's going to happen is that he's going to say where?

00:35:42.380 And she's going to say NBC.

00:35:44.360 And he's going to say, did you see those moderators?

00:35:45.960 Are you out of your mind?

00:35:47.000 I don't think he'll say no.

00:35:48.340 I don't think he'll say no.

00:35:49.080 I think he says yes.

00:35:50.160 Yeah.

00:35:50.460 Because first of all, ABC is the most leftist biased network.

00:35:55.080 They hired the former top propagandist for the Clinton White House to be their chief

00:35:58.480 political anchor.

00:35:59.340 And you saw those jokers tonight.

00:36:01.200 So anything is going to be more moderate.

00:36:03.880 That's risky for her.

00:36:04.840 I'm kind of surprised a little bit.

00:36:06.020 I'm a little surprised that she did, but I think he will take her.

00:36:08.240 I'm happy to hear it.

00:36:09.180 He might even get away with getting at least one person, you know, like Brett Baer in there,

00:36:14.020 which would be fine.

00:36:15.320 I mean, well, I mean, I should, I don't think he should do another one.

00:36:18.600 So he can't directly say no, but I think exactly what you just said, like, here's what he could

00:36:24.220 say.

00:36:24.400 I'm not doing another one of those.

00:36:25.540 There's no way.

00:36:25.980 I'm not doing a three-on-one thing again.

00:36:27.320 That was, it's a setup.

00:36:28.200 It's ridiculous.

00:36:28.820 I'm not doing that.

00:36:29.940 So we could, you know, we could do one on Fox or we could do it somewhere that's-

00:36:33.920 What he should do is he should propose no moderators.

00:36:35.960 No moderators?

00:36:36.760 He should say no moderators.

00:36:37.640 He should say there's a question.

00:36:38.980 The question pops up on the screen.

00:36:40.680 We each get to talk for one minute with a clock, and then we move on to the next question

00:36:44.700 with rebuttals for 30 seconds each.

00:36:46.260 Like, set a series of rules with no moderators, because the game now is a game of chicken,

00:36:50.780 right?

00:36:51.120 She's going to say, I offered you the debate.

00:36:52.960 Why aren't you taking the debate?

00:36:53.700 Right?

00:36:53.780 She did this earlier.

00:36:54.900 And then he's going to say, well, because your moderators suck and that was awful.

00:36:58.260 And she's going to say, because you're chickening out, right, man?

00:37:00.500 You're chickening out.

00:37:01.160 And so what he needs to come back with is he needs to say, absolutely, no moderators, because

00:37:05.920 you shouldn't have your aides in the corner helping you out.

00:37:08.280 Another piece of breaking news right now, the biggest surprise, perhaps, of the political

00:37:13.640 season, if you've been living under a rock for the last four years, Taylor Swift just

00:37:18.720 officially endorsed Kamala Harris.

00:37:20.440 Wow.

00:37:21.060 But who did Travis endorse?

00:37:23.940 It's a woman who's never gotten men right.

00:37:27.180 What I love about Taylor Swift is that she's always super late on everything.

00:37:31.240 Have you ever seen the movie Popstar Never Stopped, Never Stopping?

00:37:33.620 So there's a great number from Popstar Never Stopped, Never Stopping.

00:37:36.340 It's an Andy Samberg Lonely Island film.

00:37:38.300 It's pretty fantastic.

00:37:39.280 It's wildly inappropriate, not appropriate for children at all.

00:37:43.440 But there's one song that is aptly titled Not Gay in which Andy Samberg explains why gay

00:37:49.440 marriage is awesome, but that he personally is not gay in the song repeatedly.

00:37:53.160 And the punchline is that everybody reacts to it and they're like, gay marriage became

00:37:57.360 legal in the United States like five years ago.

00:37:59.480 Why are you even talking about this anymore?

00:38:00.840 And that is Taylor Swift in a nutshell.

00:38:02.640 It's like she waits until it doesn't matter anymore and then she signs it.

00:38:05.740 Six months, all the media could talk about was whether or not she was going to endorse.

00:38:10.000 Yeah.

00:38:10.360 Well, and again, it's just bait, right?

00:38:12.000 Because we're all going to say what we're going to say.

00:38:13.280 Like right now, what I'm about to say, which is if you vote based on who Taylor Swift is

00:38:17.180 voting for, you are one of the stupidest people alive.

00:38:20.020 I'm insulted now.

00:38:20.900 It is the stupidest thing in the world to say, who is this 36, she's the same age as

00:38:27.740 my wife.

00:38:28.300 My wife's a doctor with four kids.

00:38:29.680 This lady's acting like she's a 17-year-old girl traipsing around singing songs about the

00:38:33.200 latest dude she broke up with.

00:38:34.520 And we're all supposed to take our voting advice from her?

00:38:36.400 Okay, now you can clip that.

00:38:37.240 You can put it on media.

00:38:38.420 Hater's going to hate, hate, hate.

00:38:40.080 The significance of the Taylor Swift endorsement is they're going to go for, well, can we have

00:38:46.900 the largest political campaign rally of all time?

00:38:49.320 Right, vibes, vibes, vibes, vibes.

00:38:50.840 Because if it's really a Taylor Swift concert, they can get a million people.

00:38:53.720 A hundred thousand people, yeah, easily, yeah.

00:38:55.680 So that's the point.

00:38:58.080 Well, no more breaking news, but we do have news, original news coming from our very own

00:39:03.540 Cabot Phillips, who is live in Philadelphia right now.

00:39:06.800 Cabot, what do you have for us?

00:39:09.840 Well, the second the debate ended, the spin room behind me was flooded with surrogates.

00:39:14.460 It was very different than the Atlanta debate.

00:39:16.100 Democrat surrogates were rushing out.

00:39:19.380 They were jubilant.

00:39:20.520 I heard from a number of them.

00:39:22.360 The campaign press secretary saying Harris was strong and optimistic.

00:39:26.580 Trump was angry and weak.

00:39:28.560 They said it was a clear-cut win.

00:39:30.400 As you mentioned earlier, they won another debate in October.

00:39:32.940 They said that they would even settle for multiple debates.

00:39:35.300 The Democrats were very excited.

00:39:37.500 Now, it's worth noting also, the moderators are getting a lot of discussion about the bias

00:39:42.420 there.

00:39:42.720 Now, sitting here in the room, I was with a thousand reporters watching this debate.

00:39:46.280 You could also feel the bias in the room.

00:39:48.680 There were multiple moments throughout the evening where Trump begins to speak, and there

00:39:52.420 was a loud, uproarious laughter from large groups of members of the press.

00:39:57.880 They were not even trying to hide the fact that they were having fun.

00:40:00.820 They were mocking Trump pretty openly.

00:40:02.560 Definitely worth pointing out that the moderators are not the only biased folks in the media.

00:40:07.300 Now, the Trump campaign, they're not trying to spin this as a win.

00:40:11.720 Guys, I talked to a number of them.

00:40:13.340 I heard from a number of surrogates.

00:40:14.480 I talked to Tom Cotton, Tim Scott, the campaign communications director, Brian Hughes.

00:40:20.040 All of their talk was not necessarily on Donald Trump's performance.

00:40:23.340 It was on the performance of the moderators.

00:40:25.120 All of them used the language this was a three-on-one debate.

00:40:28.680 They're saying, however, that the American people can see through the fact that the media

00:40:32.380 wants Kamala Harris elected, and that the substance of the debate, whatever the performance

00:40:38.280 of Trump or Kamala was, will actually be secondary to the poor performance from the moderators

00:40:43.320 more broadly.

00:40:44.020 I will say that I've never felt better about Donald Trump's chances than hearing you say

00:40:48.900 that they were openly mocking him in the spin room while watching the debate.

00:40:54.100 The absolute disdain that the media class has for the American people is not just the biggest

00:41:01.680 story of tonight.

00:41:02.500 It's probably the biggest story in the country and has been for a number of years.

00:41:06.020 You can't talk about it enough.

00:41:08.620 And so, you know, may their hubris do for them what it did for them in 2016.

00:41:13.600 Cabot, who else are you hoping to talk to tonight?

00:41:15.700 Sorry.

00:41:17.180 Sorry about that.

00:41:17.980 I had a little bit of audio trouble there.

00:41:19.800 J.D. Vance has just recently made an appearance.

00:41:21.720 We're going to be talking to Tulsi Gabbard in a bit.

00:41:23.420 But I did want to also point out the Trump surrogates, they were saying that once the American

00:41:28.300 people actually get not real-time fact-checking, but fact-checking after the fact, they will

00:41:32.920 realize just how often Kamala Harris was lying.

00:41:35.300 For example, she said that she had never called for decriminalizing illegal border crossings

00:41:40.040 in 2019.

00:41:40.540 She said it is wrong to suggest that undocumented immigrants are criminals.

00:41:44.120 Being an undocumented immigrant is not a crime.

00:41:45.900 Later, she said that she had never supported mandatory gun buybacks in 2020.

00:41:49.780 She said, we have to have a buyback program.

00:41:51.960 I support a mandatory buyback program.

00:41:54.560 And perhaps most notably, the Trump campaign here in Pennsylvania was talking repeatedly about

00:41:58.980 the importance of fracking.

00:42:00.500 And they said Kamala did want to ban fracking.

00:42:03.180 And we actually have a clip, despite her saying she never wanted to ban fracking, here's a brief

00:42:08.000 clip of her talking about that in the 2020 campaign.

00:42:11.740 Will you commit to implementing a federal ban on fracking your first day in office, adding

00:42:17.500 the United States to the list of countries who have banned this devastating practice?

00:42:21.560 There's no question I'm in favor of banning fracking.

00:42:23.860 So, yeah.

00:42:25.300 And starting with what we can do on day one around public lands, right?

00:42:30.900 And then there has to be legislation.

00:42:33.440 But yes, and this is something I've taken on in California.

00:42:35.600 I have a history of working on this issue.

00:42:37.300 And to your point, we have to just acknowledge that the residual impact of fracking is enormous

00:42:44.360 in terms of the impact on the health and safety of communities.

00:42:48.460 So, the Trump campaign is saying they're having to do the job of the moderators who only showed

00:42:53.480 interest in fact-checking Donald Trump.

00:42:55.120 They are trying to blast that message out.

00:42:57.060 I expect to hear some of those conflicting quotes of hers from 2020 versus last night

00:43:02.740 in TV ads.

00:43:03.500 They said they're going to have new ads up and running in the next week, especially

00:43:06.060 here in Pennsylvania.

00:43:07.820 Hey, Cabin, it looks like Donald Trump just walked into the spin room behind you.

00:43:15.480 We're going to go get there right now if he is, and we'll get back in.

00:43:18.560 We'll check back in with you in just a few minutes.

00:43:20.460 Good work.

00:43:20.820 Yeah, they're in my ear saying, you see the people running behind Cabin, Donald Trump just

00:43:29.040 walked into the spin room, which is a thing you do have to love about Donald Trump.

00:43:32.920 Oh, he's fearless about this.

00:43:34.900 The tenacity of the guy is unbelievable.

00:43:36.980 Yes.

00:43:37.800 What you said there is one factor that can help Republicans.

00:43:41.180 So, there's a lot of talk about how, you know, we were talking that you have to be excited

00:43:44.780 to go to the ballot box.

00:43:45.960 Yes.

00:43:46.260 Or you have to be super pissed.

00:43:47.200 And if it turns out that they just keep spitting on everyone and just spitting on everyone,

00:43:52.560 then it may be that you took off enough people and stuff like these debates don't really matter.

00:43:57.900 Like, in the end, it's just a giant pulsating middle finger.

00:44:00.200 And so, I think that's what Trump is going to be banking on going forward.

00:44:04.740 Again, every single state, every single one is within margin of error right now.

00:44:08.260 So, trying to pretend that this is going to, like, blow the waste wide open or radically,

00:44:13.380 seminally change where we are in the race.

00:44:14.860 I mean, this race has been extremely stable, really, since the beginning of the race.

00:44:18.780 And the only thing that changed was everybody realized that Joe Biden was senile.

00:44:22.180 And then, as soon as she was put in, it kind of went back to status quo ante from, like,

00:44:26.180 September, October of last year.

00:44:27.860 So, you know, I'm not sure.

00:44:29.500 There's a big difference, too, between the fact checks and the fact checks of the fact

00:44:32.540 checks now compared to 2012.

00:44:34.760 I remember 2012, I was watching that debate.

00:44:37.360 Romney said, Obama, you did not refer to the Benghazi attack as a terror attack for a day

00:44:42.660 or two or several days after, and Candy Crowley lied and said, yes, he did.

00:44:47.400 And then, way after the debate was over, at the end of the broadcast, she said, oh, by

00:44:51.300 the way, I got it wrong.

00:44:51.940 And everyone had tuned out at that point.

00:44:53.400 That's right.

00:44:53.620 Because everyone in 2012 was watching that debate on TV, myself included.

00:44:58.120 Now, my father doesn't always watch this stuff on TV.

00:45:01.440 People are watching this on the internet.

00:45:02.700 The media landscape is very different than it was 12 years ago.

00:45:06.180 And so, sure, the real-time fact checks were frustrating.

00:45:08.980 We were going to pull our hair out here.

00:45:10.440 But when you get those montages of all the fact checks, and then what Cabot was talking

00:45:14.500 about, the fact check of the fact check.

00:45:16.300 Kamala says, I never said that, spliced with, on all of our shows probably tomorrow, spliced

00:45:20.920 with Kamala saying that.

00:45:22.000 I don't know.

00:45:22.740 Then, to Drew's point, the debate's settling in the days afterward.

00:45:27.200 I'm not sure that this is so great for Kamala.

00:45:29.340 I'm not sure that this is so bad for Trump.

00:45:31.040 You know, the thing you said before is really important, because if I have a concern, it is that

00:45:35.600 the vibes for Harris are very powerful.

00:45:38.620 The enthusiasm for her is very powerful, because she's not Joe Biden, because she's a fresh

00:45:42.340 coat of paint.

00:45:43.500 And Trump has been around a long time now.

00:45:45.520 He was a breath of fresh air when he started.

00:45:47.040 We all were, like, shocked by him.

00:45:48.740 We didn't see him coming.

00:45:49.880 It was like a train just bowling over the opposition.

00:45:53.580 But anger is also a kind of enthusiasm.

00:45:56.460 And I think, you know, if you're not angry at a media complex that is so huge, so dominant,

00:46:03.340 so powerful, that hates your guts, if you're not angry about that, you're just not paying

00:46:08.400 any attention at all.

00:46:09.700 And getting back to the fact that, look, Democrats aren't going to change their vote.

00:46:12.800 Republicans aren't going to change their vote.

00:46:14.160 It's all in the hands of independents.

00:46:15.800 At some point, some of these independents have got to be looking at this and saying,

00:46:18.860 you know, I'm tired of being hated.

00:46:20.900 That's what gave Trump his power in the first place.

00:46:22.720 People are tired.

00:46:23.440 This is not 10 years, 20 years.

00:46:26.060 This is 60 years of being told their country sucks, their religion sucks, they're racist,

00:46:31.140 you know, their religion, everything about them is bad.

00:46:33.980 People got ticked off.

00:46:35.140 And Trump was a gigantic middle finger to all those people.

00:46:38.060 They're still here.

00:46:38.800 They're still saying the same stuff.

00:46:40.380 Trump has gotten, you know, we've gotten used to him.

00:46:42.660 He's lost that kind of shock that he had before.

00:46:45.380 But I don't know if the anger wears off when you're being treated like these people treat us.

00:46:48.820 You know, the way that you could tell the moderators were truly, you know,

00:46:51.840 horrifically awful tonight.

00:46:53.600 And there were a million ways.

00:46:54.880 What's the number one issue in the country right now?

00:46:56.760 Clearly, like with a bullet, inflation.

00:46:59.500 Number one issue.

00:47:00.720 Not one question tonight.

00:47:02.000 Not one question on inflation.

00:47:03.400 We got several minutes on Trump's tariff policy, his proposal for tariffs.

00:47:08.480 The implication, of course, being that that's going to be inflationary policy.

00:47:11.160 At no point did they go to Kamala Harris and say,

00:47:12.760 you presided over the worst 40-year inflation spiral that we've seen.

00:47:16.860 So what's the deal?

00:47:18.580 Instead, they went to Trump's tariff policy.

00:47:20.240 Then they asked her about Trump's tariff policy.

00:47:22.140 And then he responded to her responding, which gave her a chance to respond.

00:47:25.480 And again, I think that that was a mistake by him because I think he kept taking the bait.

00:47:28.340 She would respond to what he was saying.

00:47:30.060 And then instead of him letting it go and letting them move on to a topic that was

00:47:33.020 maybe better for him than, say, tariffs, he would fall in love with the topic.

00:47:36.420 And then he just had to respond.

00:47:37.540 He had to go.

00:47:38.280 But again, the questions, I am absolutely bewildered and shocked at those questions.

00:47:44.960 They were truly, truly egregious.

00:47:47.300 And I agree with you that I think that the takeaway is going to be you can never trust

00:47:49.720 the media again.

00:47:50.640 Media trust is at all time lows.

00:47:52.860 Whether Trump can translate that into votes for him is another question.

00:47:56.440 But I think that for future election cycles, Joe Biden killed the election debate process,

00:48:01.700 right?

00:48:01.820 He killed the presidential commission.

00:48:03.200 And so now I think that if you're a Republican, you should never again walk into a debate that

00:48:08.580 is organized by your opponents.

00:48:09.980 Never again.

00:48:10.660 And in fact, I don't think there should be moderators at all.

00:48:12.980 And if you are going to have moderators, I'm going to oppose the Jewish solution of moderators.

00:48:16.320 It's like an actual Jewish law solution when you're going to have to form like a court.

00:48:19.040 What you do is you pick one, I pick one, they pick one.

00:48:22.220 Right?

00:48:22.600 That's the way that you end up actually forming a court.

00:48:24.620 That seems like a pretty good way if you're going to have moderators at all.

00:48:27.120 You can have three and you have one from my side, one from your side, and then the

00:48:29.700 two of those people pick the person in the middle.

00:48:31.940 That seems like a better way of doing it than we currently are.

00:48:35.500 You know, I do want to say something.

00:48:36.420 They pick one, they pick one, and they pick another one.

00:48:38.440 Yeah, exactly.

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00:50:16.600 You know, Knowles and I had a conversation.

00:50:19.540 I don't think you'll mind my saying this, where you mentioned the fact that you had checked on the price of eggs,

00:50:25.200 what you were spending on eggs.

00:50:26.100 Because my wife is making me spend $11 for eggs.

00:50:28.540 And you were shocked.

00:50:30.200 And I said, the thing is, the fact that you had to check shows what the media, and that's us, is like.

00:50:35.820 We have to check to see what we're paying for eggs.

00:50:39.320 If you don't have the kind of money that people in the media have, you don't have to check what you're paying for eggs.

00:50:44.740 You know when you walk in what you're paying for eggs and what it's taking away from all your other expenses.

00:50:49.960 That's the gap.

00:50:51.460 That's the big gap is, that's why people don't see what a disastrous administration this has been in the press.

00:50:57.340 And why Trump, you know, Trump is the first president who narrowed the gap between rich and poor, narrowed the gap between black and white.

00:51:05.200 He never talks about it.

00:51:06.620 He probably doesn't even know it.

00:51:07.940 But he's the first guy to do that in 60 years.

00:51:10.100 And he is the first president in my lifetime to have his finger on the pulse of the price of a Fabergé egg.

00:51:19.260 He has two on his airplane.

00:51:20.480 One issue, right on this point, Drew, that didn't come up tonight, and it's a scandal that didn't come up, pertains to mass migration, which should have been the lion's share of the debate, and the moderators tried to gloss over that.

00:51:33.540 But what especially they could have focused on was the drug crisis and fentanyl deaths.

00:51:38.140 Because this is something that affects, it actually does affect people, even in the media, even in the fancy clubs, who know somebody, or at least know somebody who knows somebody who has died of a fentanyl overdose.

00:51:49.480 And certainly people in the forgotten parts of the country know a lot of people who have experienced that.

00:51:54.840 You know, there was a report that came out just today that Kamala, while running in 2020, signed a candidate questionnaire calling for the decriminalization of fentanyl.

00:52:06.120 Not marijuana, not cocaine, not fentanyl.

00:52:10.080 And just this past year, what was it, 75,000 or thereabouts, Americans died of fentanyl overdoses.

00:52:16.340 Many, many more of drug overdoses overall.

00:52:18.020 The numbers are ticking up again.

00:52:19.560 I don't think you should categorize fentanyl as an overdose.

00:52:22.160 It's a poison.

00:52:22.720 Yeah, it's a poison.

00:52:23.340 It's a poison, yes.

00:52:24.200 Not an overdose.

00:52:24.860 And so the numbers are ticking up again.

00:52:26.760 This is the poisoning, the permitted, negligent, and intentional killing of Americans doesn't come up.

00:52:33.500 But here's the thing.

00:52:34.380 And in the end, the magical power that Donald Trump has above all else, and this has been true since 2015, is he has a camera magnet.

00:52:41.480 Right?

00:52:41.660 Wherever he goes, the cameras follow him.

00:52:44.120 And what that means is that the only person who can really prosecute the case is going to have to be Donald Trump.

00:52:49.800 It cannot be J.D. Vance.

00:52:50.840 It can't.

00:52:51.540 I mean, we're all watching J.D.

00:52:52.680 And J.D.'s doing a great job in a lot of these interviews.

00:52:54.700 He's watching these rallies.

00:52:55.640 He's doing media.

00:52:56.480 And it doesn't even make a dent.

00:52:57.500 And the reason it doesn't make a dent is because the cameras can just ignore J.D. Vance unless he's saying something about Tucker Carlson and his friendly relations with Tucker or something, in which case they can use it against J.D.

00:53:07.200 They're not going to talk about J.D. Vance.

00:53:09.060 He's just not going to break through.

00:53:10.120 The thing that Trump had that I think is the underrated superpower of Donald Trump is that he had broken through before he was ever running, right?

00:53:17.200 He was one of the most famous people in the country before he ever declared for the presidency.

00:53:20.760 And because of that, it meant that he had layers of insulation against whatever the media could throw at him because everybody already had a preconceived notion of who Donald Trump was.

00:53:28.340 He still has the capacity to do that, but it means that no surrogate can do the thing.

00:53:33.640 Surrogates can do the thing for Kamala.

00:53:34.900 She can send surrogates out there because she's a nothing.

00:53:37.580 She's a nevish.

00:53:38.100 She really is.

00:53:38.560 She's just an empty suit.

00:53:39.320 She's a nevish.

00:53:39.940 She's nothing.

00:53:40.660 And what that means is that she can send out surrogates to go change her positions willy-nilly or go on the morning shows with Morning Joe and jab her about what a vibes candidate she is.

00:53:49.000 And she can go into spice shops and hug people, and that will be her entire campaign.

00:53:52.320 No one on the right can do the job for him, which means the challenge is his.

00:53:56.920 And so in a very singular way, this election will be won or lost by Donald Trump.

00:54:00.900 Either he is going to singularly, in his own personage, prosecute the case against Kamala Harris, or it ain't going to get prosecuted.

00:54:07.200 Because the other problem that you got is that he can toss hundreds of millions of dollars into TV ads.

00:54:12.340 And the question is, who watches local TV anymore?

00:54:15.920 Seriously, this is a major problem.

00:54:17.260 Like, you can throw that money down a rat hole, but the reality is the amount of money that's spent on local TV and, say, Pennsylvania on these TV ads, what's the ROI on that?

00:54:25.980 It's not as easy to reach people as it once was, and the internet is super fragmentary.

00:54:30.060 And so, you know, their ballot harvesting operation better be top-notch.

00:54:33.440 Their get-out-the-vote operation better be top-notch.

00:54:35.100 I mean, let's start putting the pressure inside, for those of us who want him to win.

00:54:39.720 Okay, it's time to start actually putting the pressure where the pressure needs to be for him to win.

00:54:42.960 And in order for him to win, we can pressure the media.

00:54:44.860 We always do that, and we should.

00:54:46.100 That should not let up.

00:54:47.020 The pressure should be on us from Harris.

00:54:48.440 We'll do our job, right?

00:54:49.640 That's our job.

00:54:50.320 Our job is to keep the pressure on them.

00:54:51.600 But the only people who can run the get-out-the-vote effort are the people running the get-out-the-vote effort.

00:54:56.020 You can't do it.

00:54:56.500 I can't do it.

00:54:56.980 Nope, none of us can do that.

00:54:58.040 The get-out-the-vote effort needs to be top-notch.

00:55:00.200 No excuses.

00:55:01.360 Donald Trump needs to personally prosecute the case.

00:55:04.500 No excuses.

00:55:05.460 Because in the end, it ain't going to be excuses.

00:55:07.040 Because if she's elected, she's going to wreck the country.

00:55:09.580 She really will.

00:55:10.520 It's actually one of the questions from one of our DailyWire.com subscribers is,

00:55:14.160 will the VP debate have a significant impact?

00:55:16.620 And it sounds like you're saying no.

00:55:17.640 Nope, not one iota.

00:55:18.980 Does anybody remember Kamala Harris from the Mike Pence debate?

00:55:21.460 They remember the fly.

00:55:22.320 They remember the fly in that debate more than they remember Kamala Harris.

00:55:26.140 He was great on the fly.

00:55:27.320 The fly was one of the big stars of our modern politics.

00:55:29.920 I mean, J.D. Vance will do very, very well.

00:55:31.620 He'll do great.

00:55:32.100 He'll be spectacular, and it won't matter at all.

00:55:34.160 Not one iota.

00:55:35.540 Not one iota.

00:55:36.240 The one thing that'll be hard for him now is that Tucker has created this issue for him, right?

00:55:39.880 I mean, like Tim Walls will for sure hit him on his friendship with Tucker

00:55:43.880 because Tucker had this schmuck pseudo-historian on who did this dumb routine

00:55:47.980 about how Churchill was the villain of the Second World War.

00:55:50.180 And that's just like, that's just an easy hit for Tim Walls.

00:55:52.720 He'll go out of his way to do it.

00:55:53.780 It was a dumb move by Tucker.

00:55:54.840 It was damaging to the Republican cause for whatever that matters.

00:55:57.240 And, you know, J.D. will be asked about that without a doubt during that VP debate.

00:56:01.300 Is that going to make any difference?

00:56:02.560 Not really.

00:56:03.000 He's the VP candidate.

00:56:03.560 Who cares?

00:56:04.240 Yeah.

00:56:04.840 Another question from a DailyWire.com subscriber.

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00:56:12.960 That's 47 for 47.

00:56:14.240 Obviously, we want Donald Trump to be the 47th president.

00:56:17.540 Simple yes or no from the entire group.

00:56:19.520 Do you think that the people of the United States actually believe her lies?

00:56:23.520 What lies?

00:56:24.240 What lies?

00:56:24.680 You know, they believe she wants to kill babies.

00:56:26.260 She wants to kill babies.

00:56:27.380 They believe that she'll adjust her policies based on whatever's convenient.

00:56:31.340 She will do that.

00:56:32.220 You know, I don't think she cares that much about fracking.

00:56:34.360 I think she just says what she thinks she needs to say.

00:56:37.320 To get the power.

00:56:37.820 Yeah.

00:56:38.280 And so she says that.

00:56:40.560 They believe it.

00:56:41.240 And they're all right, I guess.

00:56:42.780 I think that they don't believe her lies because they don't care.

00:56:46.200 But what I would say is that I think the Democrats, and right now I see it with like Mark Cuban,

00:56:50.620 for example.

00:56:51.500 I think that a lot of Democrats have the same feeling about her that for a long time Republicans

00:56:56.020 had about Trump, which was take him seriously, but not literally.

00:56:59.360 Right?

00:56:59.460 So they're taking her vibes seriously.

00:57:01.680 And her vibe is, I'm not Donald Trump.

00:57:03.520 I am a lefty.

00:57:04.680 I'm a typical lefty.

00:57:05.460 I'm going to do exactly what a typical lefty does.

00:57:07.180 Doesn't matter what she says.

00:57:08.000 I mean, they openly say this, right?

00:57:09.160 I mean, they'll go on TV and they'll be like, sure, she's lying about all of her positions.

00:57:12.280 But she does have to get.

00:57:13.080 Bernie literally said this this weekend, right?

00:57:14.780 Bernie went on national TV.

00:57:15.980 She's being pragmatic.

00:57:17.080 Right.

00:57:17.600 And she's changing all of her positions.

00:57:19.260 She's being pragmatic.

00:57:20.260 And that's what she should do.

00:57:21.340 As a good Marxist, she should lie about everything.

00:57:22.960 And then once she's elected, she can execute the kulaks.

00:57:25.580 Right?

00:57:25.740 Like, that's the...

00:57:26.960 I mean, a lot of voters, let's face it, are NPCs.

00:57:30.960 They're non-playable characters.

00:57:32.140 Yeah.

00:57:32.360 You know, and in some ways, it's kind of healthy.

00:57:34.540 You know, they grew up in the Democrat or the Republican Party.

00:57:37.680 You stick to your family.

00:57:38.680 You stick to the people around you.

00:57:39.920 That's kind of the way it should be in a country that's not on the brink of collapse like this one.

00:57:44.720 But normally, that's not a bad thing.

00:57:47.020 But the people who decide the election because of that are the playable characters.

00:57:50.780 I don't think...

00:57:51.620 I think a lot of the playable characters will not believe who lost.

00:57:54.300 I do wonder if the people in the middle are just exhausted.

00:57:56.500 I'll bet you the voters turn out for people who are independents is like zero.

00:57:59.480 Seriously.

00:58:00.060 Because, like...

00:58:01.260 I mean, independent voters.

00:58:02.260 Independent voters.

00:58:03.020 Yeah.

00:58:03.200 Yeah, yeah.

00:58:03.520 Like, because if you're a Democrat, you're jazzed because Kamala and vibes and all that.

00:58:07.420 And if you're a Trump voter, you're jazzed because you've got to stop Kamala and vibes and all that.

00:58:10.580 If you're an independent, you're like, when does all this shit just end?

00:58:13.560 Like, seriously.

00:58:14.300 Like, I think that that was...

00:58:16.100 That has been the vibe in a couple of elections straight.

00:58:18.480 Where it's like, Americans are just like, can we just be left alone?

00:58:21.980 Like, a little normality.

00:58:23.260 Yeah.

00:58:23.460 And so, you know...

00:58:25.000 I think that is what people vote for.

00:58:26.600 I agree.

00:58:27.540 And that's kind of why I was hoping that there would be a little more normality from Trump tonight.

00:58:31.160 I think, in a way, if Kamala goes on to be president, the historic thing about this debate, retrospectively,

00:58:38.480 will be that it's a bit like Bill Clinton's, the era of big government is over moment,

00:58:43.140 that she really ran as the government should leave you alone candidate tonight,

00:58:49.420 which is, of course, absurd because she is the vice president of...

00:58:52.480 Trump was right about this, right?

00:58:53.380 He said, I'll buy you a MAGA hat.

00:58:54.740 That's right.

00:58:55.100 He's great.

00:58:55.180 Like, it's an amazing pivot that at least says that some of our actual policy preferences

00:59:02.980 do resonate with the American people.

00:59:05.340 We've stopped advocating for some of our, the government should leave you alone positions.

00:59:09.280 Yeah.

00:59:09.580 That's, I think, become a weak spot for conservatives in the last six or eight years.

00:59:15.000 And I think Kamala is showing us that that does still have to be right.

00:59:19.120 Well, that coalition that you're describing, Jeremy, which is that Reagan slash sort of

00:59:26.120 Bill Clinton slash sort of Tony Blair slash sort of Dave Cameron, it's not even just in

00:59:31.820 America, it's in the UK too.

00:59:34.220 We kind of mock it now as passe and neoliberal and squishy, and it is all of those things.

00:59:41.380 It also does still seem to kind of resonate with the voters.

00:59:44.100 Because we use words like neoliberal, and what most people just hear when they hear neoliberal

00:59:47.320 is, I have no idea what you're talking about.

00:59:49.240 Do you mean that you're going to leave me alone, and I'll just be able to go to the supermarket

00:59:51.780 and things will be cheap, or what?

00:59:53.200 Like, what do you mean?

00:59:54.120 Seriously, you think most people have any idea what the hell the word neoliberal means?

00:59:56.880 No.

00:59:57.040 People who use the word neoliberal have no idea what the word neoliberal means.

00:59:59.200 Well, I mean, we know what it means, and we probably don't like a lot of it.

01:00:02.860 We don't like, you know, just totally laissez-faire cultural hands on the, you know, we don't

01:00:08.400 want to have much more migration.

01:00:10.280 We don't want to have some weak middle ground where we kill some babies and not other babies.

01:00:14.260 We don't want to give up the meaning of marriage.

01:00:15.700 You know, I don't like it.

01:00:17.380 I would like a more coherently conservative policy, and I'm sure Bernie and Comrade Kamala

01:00:22.420 and her heart of hearts want some more leftist policy, but a lot of those voters that we're

01:00:26.740 trying to reach, they don't have the most coherent and consistent political philosophy,

01:00:30.540 and if you can appeal to them, that can be very powerful.

01:00:33.140 I wanted to just follow up one thing, Ben.

01:00:35.440 You said that I think your Bernie Sanders impression is your best one.

01:00:39.460 I appreciate that.

01:00:40.520 I just, you know, you've got a few that are kind of weak, but that one was good.

01:00:44.020 Thank you.

01:00:44.120 Yeah, my Trump is not great.

01:00:46.040 My Obama is quality.

01:00:47.400 You have a good Obama.

01:00:48.720 Kamala Harris has a good black woman.

01:00:51.640 I heard her break it up.

01:00:52.940 I don't think you're the idiot one.

01:00:54.340 I don't think it's that good.

01:00:57.660 I did love Trump's answer on that.

01:00:59.680 If she wants to be black, she can be black.

01:01:01.520 If she doesn't want to be black, she doesn't have to be black.

01:01:03.660 Does it really matter?

01:01:04.480 I heard she was an idiot.

01:01:05.340 It actually was kind of a sophisticated answer.

01:01:07.220 It was.

01:01:07.660 They just weren't letting him have it.

01:01:09.100 Yeah.

01:01:09.180 Okay.

01:01:12.060 Okay.

01:01:12.460 From DailyWire.com subscriber, this one for Ben.

01:01:15.680 Do you think the Jewish men and women around our country fall for the lie that she loves Israel?

01:01:19.480 Okay.

01:01:19.780 It's time for my answer.

01:01:20.660 You ready for this?

01:01:21.260 Let's go.

01:01:21.500 Here we go.

01:01:22.320 Most Jews are not Jewish.

01:01:23.800 Okay.

01:01:24.040 Let me explain this thing about Jews.

01:01:26.220 Whenever we see a poll of Jews, what you mean are people who identify as Jews, which,

01:01:30.200 and Jews, unlike other groups, you know, people who identify as Jews, they're not doing so

01:01:34.380 religiously.

01:01:35.140 If you poll people, like, are you Catholic?

01:01:37.120 Typically, the people who say they are Catholic are Catholic.

01:01:39.720 You know, like, they go to church.

01:01:40.960 Like, they actually pay attention to the things the Pope says.

01:01:42.980 They were at least baptized.

01:01:44.240 They probably don't go to church.

01:01:45.860 Okay.

01:01:46.140 Okay.

01:01:46.580 They take the religion seriously enough that when they are not Catholic anymore, they call

01:01:50.660 themselves lapsed Catholics or atheists.

01:01:52.440 Yeah.

01:01:52.740 Okay.

01:01:53.040 Jews don't do that.

01:01:53.720 So, for Jews, they'll be, like, full non-compliant.

01:01:57.360 God is stupid.

01:01:58.220 Like, full-on atheistic, anti-Israel kooks, but for those Jews, the reason they say Jew

01:02:04.780 is because what they mean is intersectionally not white, right?

01:02:07.660 And that is a serious share of, like, the American Jewish population who identifies as

01:02:11.620 Jewish because it means that they're not part of the white Borg, and also, we're not

01:02:15.620 part of the, like, old anti-Semitic, you know, white people in country clubs thing,

01:02:19.920 right?

01:02:20.080 And so, I always differentiate between Jews who care about Jewishness and people who don't

01:02:23.720 care about Jewishness.

01:02:24.380 So, for those of us who actually have a dog in the being Jewish fight, we're going

01:02:28.020 to vote, like, 110% for Donald Trump.

01:02:30.720 In my synagogue, there are, I can name, I can name him.

01:02:33.600 I think there's one to two.

01:02:35.560 This is a synagogue of 400 families.

01:02:37.260 There may be one to two Kamala Harris supporters.

01:02:40.700 Maybe.

01:02:41.440 Okay?

01:02:41.660 And that's fairly consistent around the Orthodox community.

01:02:44.120 Like, we all see through it.

01:02:45.560 I mean, we all know it.

01:02:47.020 If you go down to Florida, every Trump fundraiser is filled with people with yarmulkes.

01:02:50.340 Like, every single one.

01:02:52.340 There's a reason for that.

01:02:53.980 But one of the great, and by the way, you can tell us in the polls, there's a poll, and

01:02:57.080 it shows, it was a Pew poll, it came out recently, showing what various religious denominations

01:03:01.460 think of people of other religious denominations.

01:03:03.900 And so, every religious denomination says they don't like atheism.

01:03:07.140 Except the Jews, who are pro-19, they're plus 19 on atheism.

01:03:10.360 Why?

01:03:10.820 Because it turns out that a huge number of people who identify as Jews are, in fact,

01:03:13.940 atheists, right?

01:03:14.720 And so, I think it's important to make that distinction, because people get caught up in the, like,

01:03:18.320 Jews as solidarity club for people who all think alike.

01:03:22.040 And it's like, well, no, they're the ones of us who actually take the Bible seriously

01:03:24.820 and care deeply about what happens to Israel, and think Kamala Harris is awful on Israel.

01:03:29.780 Awful.

01:03:30.220 Her answer tonight was sheer, absolute, unmitigated trash.

01:03:33.920 Absolute trash.

01:03:34.860 If she says one more, she keeps saying over and over, what we're searching for is an end

01:03:39.100 of the conflict in which there is a hostage deal, and all the hostages are freed, and

01:03:43.480 Israel is still safe, and also there will be a two-state solution, and unicorns will

01:03:47.200 fart energy.

01:03:48.240 And, like, what are you talking about?

01:03:50.120 You're talking about negotiating with a terrorist entity to maintain its dominance of a portion

01:03:54.620 of the land in order so that you can then give them a state, and then peace will break

01:03:58.480 out.

01:03:58.700 Like, it's awful.

01:03:59.960 And Tim Walz, by the way, is way worse than Kamala on this.

01:04:02.520 It's an awful ticket on Israel.

01:04:03.700 A truly awful ticket.

01:04:04.560 I want to know, you know, on the right, we've got these clowns who are anti-Semitic, and

01:04:08.500 they're always coming after me and yelling terrible things.

01:04:11.180 And I want to know, if Jews are so bad for America, why is it the people who say death

01:04:15.740 to America want to kill the Jews?

01:04:19.020 I've never quite understood that.

01:04:21.140 Just asking questions.

01:04:23.000 One of them, I forget it was some picture of you, Drew, and one of them was making some

01:04:27.520 argument about how terrible you are.

01:04:30.080 But it was being presented as very objective.

01:04:32.700 But then I looked at the picture, I said, wait, what's that?

01:04:34.560 And they drew a little yarmulke on your bald head.

01:04:36.680 They didn't.

01:04:37.160 They didn't.

01:04:37.700 They didn't.

01:04:38.060 No.

01:04:38.740 It was just there?

01:04:39.760 No, no, no.

01:04:40.100 I had no idea.

01:04:41.280 Listen, we all saw the picture.

01:04:43.520 It was from Backstage Live.

01:04:45.080 Okay.

01:04:45.500 And it's all of us sitting in this format, Drew right there, and he, for the life of

01:04:49.420 me, is wearing a yarmulke.

01:04:51.080 Yeah.

01:04:51.700 And Drew and I had a conversation about this a few days ago over dinner.

01:04:54.600 He said, do you see the thing where they put that yarmulke on my head?

01:04:56.380 I mean, it's kind of funny.

01:04:57.340 They didn't put the yarmulke on his head.

01:04:59.580 Was that just Providence?

01:05:00.680 The geniuses at the Daily Wire, where I work, put a Daily Wire, a DW watermark, on a video

01:05:09.380 that is a translucent black circle.

01:05:13.740 And it just happened that in that example, and this is where the anti-Semites are hilarious.

01:05:18.500 I wish it wasn't true.

01:05:19.860 The Groypers are funny as hell.

01:05:21.640 They're evil.

01:05:23.480 Evil and hater fight.

01:05:24.500 It can be funny, yeah.

01:05:25.180 Yeah.

01:05:26.040 They believe in a demonic ideology, but they are hilarious, and they found the one frame

01:05:33.020 of the whole show where the watermark landed on Drew's head.

01:05:36.340 Dude, they're super funny.

01:05:37.280 They made a Hispanic gay guy the leader of their movement.

01:05:40.780 From now on, I'm wearing this outside my shirt.

01:05:45.100 Like a bishop.

01:05:46.380 Now I look like a bishop.

01:05:47.480 And when you're a bishop, you actually get to wear the hat.

01:05:48.880 I get to wear the hat.

01:05:49.840 Exactly.

01:05:50.360 Then I get to yell at me.

01:05:51.300 You come full circle.

01:05:53.420 From another DailyWire.com subscriber, what do we do?

01:05:56.760 We should be serious, but this is actually, I think, on the hearts and minds of a lot

01:06:01.560 of people.

01:06:02.020 What do we do if Kamala wins?

01:06:04.060 This genuinely feels like we're on the verge of losing the country if the left takes the

01:06:08.100 White House and Congress.

01:06:09.340 So how do we stay calm in the event that Trump loses?

01:06:12.840 You know, I was at a fundraiser for Republicans in Virginia the other day, and this was on all

01:06:17.920 of their minds.

01:06:18.960 It was, you know, what do we do?

01:06:19.960 First of all, they may not believe that he lost if he did lose, but I think there's obviously

01:06:26.120 a possibility that he could lose.

01:06:28.200 And I just think, you know, this is the kind of country where things go a lot slower than

01:06:33.880 people want them to go, hopefully.

01:06:35.640 And it really just depends on what happens to the Congress, because we could lose the

01:06:42.020 White House but hold Congress and hold the Senate and win the Senate.

01:06:45.960 So there's a lot of different outcomes, and I think not panicking would be a good idea.

01:06:50.160 You know, I got asked once recently, somebody on one of the all-access shows, you know, should

01:06:56.040 we revolt?

01:06:58.060 Should we get our guns?

01:06:59.280 And I thought, could you volunteer to serve at a polling place first before you go for

01:07:03.480 your guns?

01:07:04.040 You know, I think there are a lot of things to do to be active in American politics that

01:07:09.020 still work, that are still there, that we should start to take advantage of.

01:07:11.900 Also, you know, this election is very, very important.

01:07:15.960 They're all really important.

01:07:19.380 You're not going to win every election from now until forever.

01:07:22.380 Like, you are going to lose sometimes, no matter what.

01:07:25.540 That's just a reality.

01:07:27.060 So that's all kind of baked into the cake of the way the system works.

01:07:31.500 So the way I look at it is, I mean, it'll be terrible if she wins.

01:07:35.800 And if they win everything, which I don't think will happen, even worse.

01:07:38.940 I mean, really devastating consequences.

01:07:41.000 But what do we do?

01:07:41.600 Do we, what do we just, what do we give up and move?

01:07:45.320 Where are you going to move to?

01:07:46.240 Right.

01:07:46.940 You just, you get ready for, for 2028.

01:07:49.740 You get ready for the midterms.

01:07:51.120 You focus on your own family, your own community.

01:07:53.780 You just, you keep living and fighting.

01:07:55.500 Donald Trump would say, fight, fight, fight.

01:07:57.560 Americans, I feel we have a ton of really great virtues and particular skills.

01:08:02.240 But one area that we lack in is we sometimes lack in historical sense.

01:08:06.240 Because we're a young country and we were founded in a unique way that had

01:08:11.540 all these ramifications for the rest of the world.

01:08:13.140 And we kind of forget how history works.

01:08:15.640 I just happened, coincidentally, providentially, to give this lecture on my favorite Italian poet, Dante.

01:08:21.380 It was specifically on.

01:08:21.980 Who?

01:08:22.420 I don't know if you heard of him.

01:08:23.320 He's this guy.

01:08:24.120 Tell me all about him.

01:08:24.920 Well, I, no.

01:08:25.580 In two hours.

01:08:26.420 Actually.

01:08:27.000 Can you recite his cantos?

01:08:28.080 You can get that if you listen to my lecture on the ISI YouTube channel.

01:08:32.400 But it was on his politics because this is a guy who rose to the highest level of the Florentine government

01:08:37.360 and then immediately lost everything.

01:08:40.260 He got, the Pope attacked him, killed his, the Pope's army guys, killed his friends.

01:08:47.060 Gileadante.

01:08:47.640 Took his property.

01:08:49.120 Yes.

01:08:49.380 Sent him out of his city.

01:08:51.760 He never returned.

01:08:53.040 Civil war was the recurring theme in his political life.

01:08:56.560 And Dante had to make sense of this.

01:08:58.360 And he's not the only one.

01:08:59.300 Great political thinkers have had to make sense of this, going back to Boethius and before that.

01:09:03.440 If you are Christian, though, you believe that there is a meaning to history.

01:09:10.240 You believe that there's a beginning to the story, the creation.

01:09:12.800 You believe there's a turning point, which is the incarnation.

01:09:15.580 And you believe there's an end.

01:09:16.620 And we know how the story ends, if you're a Christian.

01:09:18.500 You believe that this world, this fallen world of politics, is subject to principalities and power and spiritual wickedness in high places.

01:09:28.240 You believe also that rulers are here for our own good and that a civil order and justice and law is here for our own good.

01:09:34.380 And we need to do our very best to establish those conditions for justice.

01:09:39.160 But it's going to be really unpleasant a lot of the time.

01:09:42.520 And I fear sometimes, because we have a short revolutionary view of history, we think that it's all going to be roses.

01:09:48.940 And it's weird that Christians who have a God who is crucified by the religious people, the political people, by the crowd, by his friends, that they believe that everything is going to come up roses.

01:10:02.660 That's not the way it works.

01:10:03.700 I think that on a very practical level, there are a few things.

01:10:07.420 One, the Senate matters an awful lot.

01:10:10.300 And people who are not paying attention to the Senate races, bad mistake.

01:10:13.640 Right now, the Republicans basically have guaranteed 50 seats because of Jim Justice in West Virginia.

01:10:18.340 They're very likely to win the seat in Montana where Tim Sheehy appears to be running away with that race.

01:10:22.760 That means 51, which is great.

01:10:24.360 You're going to need a little bit more than that because you want some sort of cushion.

01:10:26.700 Because we've had situations in the recent past, actually, where Republicans had a 51-vote majority.

01:10:31.280 And you get one person to peel off and join the Democrats.

01:10:33.300 And Jim Jeffords did this when George W. Bush was president, actually.

01:10:36.440 And you could see something like that.

01:10:38.060 You really want more than that.

01:10:40.220 I, on a personal level, have actually been doing something I've never done before, which I'm actually going out and actively campaigning with a series of Senate candidates in swing states.

01:10:47.640 I already went and campaigned with Captain Sam Brown over in Nevada, who's a wonderful person and a real American hero.

01:10:54.100 I'm going to be campaigning in Pennsylvania with Dave McCormick.

01:10:56.740 I'm going to be hopefully campaigning with Eric Hovdi in Wisconsin and Mike Rogers in Michigan and with Bernie Moreno in Ohio.

01:11:03.660 That's my hope.

01:11:04.200 I want to go campaign with all those people.

01:11:05.640 And if you can, you should go work for those Senate candidates because the worst thing would be if the Democrats get a triumvirate here.

01:11:11.340 If they get all three, if they get Congress and Senate and the presidency, they will do damage that is, in fact, permanent in nature.

01:11:17.400 They will add two states to the Senate of the United States and stack it with another four Democratic senators, making their majority near permanent.

01:11:23.900 They will kill the filibuster.

01:11:25.200 They will make changes to the actual system of American government that are incredibly dangerous.

01:11:28.620 And so the question becomes, OK, let's say all that happens.

01:11:31.280 Then what?

01:11:31.980 And then the answer becomes what always was the case, which is you're going to see individual states that just refuse to take the mandate to the federal government.

01:11:39.980 Right.

01:11:40.420 That's going to be the next step.

01:11:41.700 And you're already you're already seeing.

01:11:42.740 By the way, when the left protest this is like, well, you guys have already done this.

01:11:45.640 It's called the sanctuary state.

01:11:46.620 You do it all the time.

01:11:47.800 You did this with regard to marijuana enforcement.

01:11:49.760 Like you guys are constantly ignoring laws that you don't think ought to apply to you.

01:11:52.920 And so you'll just see that from the right.

01:11:54.760 The right will just say, listen, you want to come enforce your garbage tax law.

01:11:57.620 You come down here and try it.

01:11:58.940 Like, see how it goes for you.

01:12:00.240 You're already seeing this with the immigration laws in Texas and what Governor Abbott has been doing down there.

01:12:04.560 So that'll be the next step.

01:12:05.980 The nice thing about the United States is really big.

01:12:07.840 It's really decentralized.

01:12:09.500 States do have an enormous amount of power.

01:12:11.220 And I think that I was a lot more pessimistic about these sorts of solutions when I was living in a blue state.

01:12:15.400 When I was living in California, it's like, oh, my God, there's no place to go.

01:12:18.540 And then it turns out there are, in fact, a lot of places to go.

01:12:20.520 You can take your whole company to Tennessee.

01:12:21.660 You can move down to Florida.

01:12:23.240 And that will give you a base from which to fight back using the mechanisms of the system.

01:12:29.620 So the thing that I hate is when people say this is the last election.

01:12:32.560 If we lose this election, it's all over.

01:12:34.220 And invariably, the people who are telling you this are totally lying.

01:12:36.400 There's never a last election until the end of the world.

01:12:38.880 You know what's the thing that I noticed?

01:12:39.940 I noticed that literally everyone who said that if Biden won in 2020, it would be the last election and everything didn't matter and the world would end,

01:12:46.800 they all went on the air that after the election, they were still on the air.

01:12:48.900 It was super weird.

01:12:49.640 None of them quit their jobs and decided to go to farming.

01:12:51.600 Literally not one of them.

01:12:53.760 It was amazing.

01:12:54.820 Conservatives say this in the same way that libs say that if a conservative is elected, they're going to move to Canada.

01:12:58.780 That's right.

01:12:59.240 But you don't know the future.

01:13:01.720 No one knows the future.

01:13:05.040 If Kamala Harris wins, we certainly know it will be bad.

01:13:09.120 There will be policies that make life worse in the country.

01:13:13.620 There will be policies that damage particularly our values.

01:13:16.500 It's possible that there will be policies, Ben, to your point, that actually reorder how the government works in this country.

01:13:23.820 That could certainly happen.

01:13:28.100 That much is certain.

01:13:29.640 It will be bad from a policy perspective if Kamala Harris wins.

01:13:33.080 Beyond that, the extent to which it will be difficult is completely unknown.

01:13:39.640 It could certainly be the case that Donald Trump losing the presidency in 2024 could be the beginning of something really good in the country.

01:13:48.240 A reorientation.

01:13:49.280 Donald Trump has been – this is our third presidential election.

01:13:52.280 We've marched into battle behind Donald Trump.

01:13:55.580 If he loses or – and even if they cheat, his job is to ascend the presidency.

01:14:00.380 If he fails to ascend the presidency, if he loses, then it will be a good thing not to follow him into a fourth presidential election.

01:14:08.640 Is it possible?

01:14:10.800 You say there's always a next election.

01:14:13.000 To the extent that you mean history continues, of course that's true.

01:14:15.900 Maybe there's not a next election.

01:14:17.240 I mean, systems of government's completely changed.

01:14:19.740 They're talking about gutting the court?

01:14:20.940 We could go into a Soviet-style Great Terror where we spend 50 years under a dark cloud.

01:14:26.800 The worst thing can happen.

01:14:28.820 I don't think that it's likely that it will happen.

01:14:30.600 I think that's the smallest percent chance of what the outcome could be.

01:14:34.840 But it's possible.

01:14:35.760 It's possible that Donald Trump losing could be the beginning of something very good that happens.

01:14:41.040 You can't be cavalier about that because what we know for a fact is that bad policies will happen.

01:14:44.840 And you don't win by losing.

01:14:47.860 It may be the case that you accidentally do every now and then win by losing.

01:14:51.780 But as we say often, luck is a bad business model.

01:14:54.400 Sometimes you lose with Goldwater in a 64 and then you get Reagan in 80.

01:14:57.420 But there's an awful long 16-year period and a revolutionary period.

01:15:01.040 And you can't be so cavalier as to not do your job in the moment.

01:15:04.580 Our job in the moment is to support Donald Trump for president.

01:15:06.980 Our job in the moment is to do everything within our power to try to stop the left from having the White House for four more years.

01:15:12.020 Should that fail, though, it is important to remember that at the extremes, things can be very bad.

01:15:19.860 Most likely what will happen is we'll all get back up, we'll all go back to work, we'll all have to start reorienting, we'll have to start adapting as we always do as human beings.

01:15:28.780 We'll have to find a way, Matt, to your point, to focus on our family, to focus on our faith, to focus on the smallest units of government, which in the end are the foundational units of government.

01:15:39.080 We'll have to remember to be optimistic, not because the future is promised to be good, the future might be very bad, but because belief in God is a fundamentally optimistic act.

01:15:48.840 And we'll have to figure out where the fight is and go fight it.

01:15:51.320 And we have to make more movies like Matt's so that we can change people's minds.

01:15:55.340 That's right.

01:15:56.100 The battle is ultimately a cultural battle.

01:15:58.980 It's always a cultural.

01:15:59.820 The battle, you know, a lot of people are very upset about abortion.

01:16:02.840 I'll end the night with this.

01:16:04.580 People are very upset about the fact that the abortion situation in the country has changed.

01:16:08.420 We didn't have a plan for what would happen after Roe v. Wade.

01:16:11.020 Or for when the abortion pill became the chief mechanism of abortion.

01:16:15.340 That's right.

01:16:15.640 And now that we're on the other side of both of those events in rapid succession, abortion is a much more complex political issue.

01:16:24.980 It's not a more complex moral issue.

01:16:26.500 The moral issue hasn't changed at all.

01:16:28.460 Abortion is a true horror, a true blight.

01:16:31.340 But the political situation has changed dramatically.

01:16:33.940 It used to be the case that you could have a politically absolutist view of abortion, which is not the same as a morally absolutist view.

01:16:42.380 I have a morally absolutist view of abortion.

01:16:45.080 But politics only allowed us to have an absolutist political view because of Roe.

01:16:49.880 What I mean by that is we could elect people who were proponents of abortion, like Donald Trump.

01:16:57.860 People who've been pro-choice their entire life.

01:16:59.940 Before he ran.

01:17:00.740 Like Donald Trump.

01:17:01.480 But it didn't matter because in a situation with Roe v. Wade, as long as he opposed Roe v. Wade, this one concept, then he was pro-life.

01:17:10.680 And now on the other side, we have this complicated moment where the very person who secured us the greatest pro-life victory of all time now isn't morally advocating positions that make the pro-life community happy.

01:17:22.120 But that's the nature of the new political reality.

01:17:24.420 And people want to know how do we win?

01:17:26.240 How do we win now?

01:17:27.000 Do we get rid of the people who don't have the absolutist moral view that we have?

01:17:30.560 You know, do we have to – is it better to lose elections standing for what's right?

01:17:33.940 And those are – it's easy to kind of be glib about that.

01:17:37.100 Those can be, in certain moments, very complex questions.

01:17:40.300 There will be times where we may have to choose to lose political power.

01:17:42.840 And even Trump is making this point where he's like, I've got to win elections, guys.

01:17:45.600 Just let me go, you know.

01:17:46.920 But the ultimate point is this.

01:17:49.500 It took half a century to overturn Roe.

01:17:53.900 It will now take half a century to fight the next battle for abortion, which is, I believe, fundamentally a cultural battle.

01:17:59.780 We actually have to change the way people relate to the issue of life, which is different than changing the way that they deal with the issue of the Supreme Court, Lisa v. Roe v. Wade.

01:18:09.120 We figured out how to fight that battle.

01:18:11.000 We won it.

01:18:11.340 We're going to have to figure out how to fight this battle and win it.

01:18:12.880 But some battles can't be won immediately.

01:18:16.460 And so whatever comes of this election, we're going to have to steel ourselves for the fact that every day that we're alive on this earth, we have to fight for our values.

01:18:24.120 Yeah.

01:18:24.420 That fight will never – that fight changes for a moment.

01:18:26.940 Which is why panic is always the wrong thing.

01:18:28.740 Panic is always the wrong thing.

01:18:29.440 We have to play the long game.

01:18:30.580 We have to play the long game.

01:18:31.700 That's right.

01:18:32.040 And it's why Matt's movie matters because he's fighting in the cultural sphere.

01:18:35.440 This movie, Am I Racist, comes out in theaters on Friday nationwide.

01:18:39.240 If you looked for tickets maybe three weeks ago and it wasn't playing near you, we're up to 1,500 screens starting at only 200 four weeks ago.

01:18:48.100 So if you checked the internet and the movie wasn't playing near you three weeks ago, it probably is playing near you today.

01:18:52.940 If you look today and it's not playing near you, it almost certainly will be tomorrow.

01:18:56.540 The movie is now in wide national release.

01:19:00.660 And the movie matters so much.

01:19:02.240 And it matters because it isn't a classic documentary.

01:19:06.360 It is a true culturally relevant piece of entertainment content that uses tools cultivated by the left when they weren't in hegemonic power.

01:19:16.800 Tools like mockery.

01:19:18.900 Tools like trolling.

01:19:21.980 Tools that people like Sacha Baron Cohen or Stephen Colbert or early Jon Stewart really pioneered.

01:19:27.660 And Matt is the first and only person in our movement to figure out how to effectively turn those tools now that they're the ones in power and we're the ones outside of power.

01:19:38.220 He's figured out how to use those tools to the same great effect that they were using them 20 years ago.

01:19:43.760 And for that reason alone, you must go see this film.

01:19:47.480 Agreed.

01:19:47.980 And because the culture is where we have to fight the fight.

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01:20:14.280 Put one foot in front of the other.

01:20:15.580 Keep doing the work.

01:20:17.200 Lift up thine eyes.

01:20:18.740 Fix them on the things that we have been promised and don't worry so much about the things that we haven't.

01:20:23.840 And just know that what a beautiful thing that we get to live and we get to breathe and we get to fight for our values.

01:20:30.080 The fight changes.

01:20:30.900 The values don't.

01:20:31.720 Thank you guys for joining us tonight.

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The Matt Walsh Show - June 28, 2024

Daily Wire Backstage： The Presidential Debate

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