Daily Wire Backstageļ¼ Trumpās Address to Congress
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Trump returns to Congress tonight to deliver his first State of the Union address as President, a triumphal return to the Capitol as now the 47th President of the United States. He will be joined by Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan, and Michael Knowles.
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Hey everybody, this is Matt Walsh. Drop everything you're doing and check out the latest episode of
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Daily Wire backstage. You're going to hear Jeremy Boring, Ben Shapiro, Andrew Klavan,
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Michael Knowles, and yours truly talking about all the important issues affecting you and your
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family. You don't want to miss it unless you're a leftist, in which case you're canceled.
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Welcome to Daily Wire backstage's live coverage of Donald Trump's address to Congress. Some people
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will call it a state of the union. Some people will get onto us if we do call it a state of the union.
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It's very controversial. It will look exactly like a state of the union, and I think that's
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really what matters. I'm joined here in Nashville by Andrew Klavan and Michael Knowles. Of course,
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I'm your host, Jeremy Boring, and joining us remotely from the Capitol itself tonight, we have Ben
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Shapiro, Matt Walsh. There's an empty chair, which we were saving for Elijah, but it has now been filled,
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and the man filling it is the former acting director of ICE, and the current borders are in the second
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Trump administration, Tom Holman. Thank you for being with us. Thanks for having me. If you are
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the live show, dailywire.com slash subscribe. Obviously, a really big night, the sort of triumphal
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return of Donald Trump to the Capitol as now the 47th president. What can we expect tonight, Ben?
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Well, I mean, I think that you're going to expect a very enthusiastic Republican reception.
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It heard from the speaker that we are expecting a bunch of Democrats to show up with empty egg
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cartons, and they're going to wave them at the president about egg prices. That'll show him.
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Noisemakers. They're going to try and disrupt as many things as possible, but they've been unable to
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disrupt the agenda thus far, and so I think they're going to have a rough time of it tonight. But,
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you know, it would be remiss we don't get to sit with the borders are very often. So,
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borders aren't on home. What are you expecting tonight? I expect President Trump to educate
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American people on the facts of the border that what he did in three weeks, Biden administration
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failed to do in four years. We had the lowest border numbers in the history of the United States
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border, and that's not an exaggeration. Last month, we had the fewest number of encounters in
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the history of this nation, and President Trump did that in four weeks. So, think what he's going to
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do in the next 47 months. So, we've got the most secure border ever right now. We've got a little bit
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more work to do. I said record amounts of arrests in the interior. So, and as we, as the president
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secures the border, here's what I hope people take away tonight. When you have 97% less people
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coming, Border Patrol is now on the border, 100% engaged, 100% on duty, not changing diapers,
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not making baby formula, not making hospital runs, means we seize more fentanyl, less Americans die from
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fentanyl. We arrest more traffickers, so less women and children are sex trafficked. We got less,
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no inspector terrorists getting away in this country. The gotaways alone, under Biden average,
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1,800 gotaways a day that we know of. The other day, it's 41. And we're going to get that down
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to zero. So, we're going to have total operational control of our southern border. It'll be the first
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thing in history. Just to state the obvious, so when the media tries to claim that, well,
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the deportation numbers aren't as high as what Trump promised, the point is that the border is being
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secure, so we're not having the people come in, right? Exactly. They're counting the numbers of
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what was removed. Look, President Trump can remove 90% of people coming across the board. His
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deportation numbers are still going to be lower than Biden, even if Biden deported 10%, because they
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brought millions of people in. Understand, in one month, a total of 8,000 in one month,
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and under Joe Biden, we're doing 11,000 a day, right? It's a big game changer. And I say every
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day, and I'll say it tonight, President Trump proves every day why he's the greatest president
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in my lifetime. It doesn't seem possible that the administration could have made this accomplishment
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because I was under the impression that it was impossible to secure the border unless we voted
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for Joe Biden's comprehensive immigration reform package. So somewhere I just got bad information.
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Well, look, the President Trump did it before. This administration knew how to fix it,
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and they just didn't choose to fix it. This isn't, what Biden did was not mismanagement,
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it was not incompetence, it's by design. They knew exactly what they're doing. He ran on open borders.
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He said he's going to shut down ICE detention. He said he's going to put a moratorium on deportations.
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He says he wanted to give free health care to illegal aliens. The promises he made,
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we knew the whole country, the whole world's going to come to the greatest nation on earth
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when you're offering all these giveaways with no consequences. They knew how to fix it,
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they refused to do it. Again, what they failed to do in four years, Donald Trump did in three
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weeks. You know, Mr. Homan, Mr. Homan, Ben just mentioned that the Democrat lawmakers are planning
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to interrupt the speech with all sorts of noisemakers and make a general nuisance of
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themselves. I know you're busy, sir, but would it be possible for you to deport them as well, please?
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Don't tempt me. Don't tempt me, because, you know, I've been fighting with the Democrat side of the
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House for a long time, but especially the last couple of days, there's going to be members of
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Congress sitting in the audience tonight who are educating criminal illegal aliens how we evade
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law enforcement. They say, well, we're educating them as a constitutional rights. Okay, plan what
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you want. We all know what you're doing. You're educating those how do we evade law enforcement.
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Don't open your doors. Don't answer questions. You know, hide. And these are Congress people
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that begged that these people had a right to claim asylum. They got a right to see a judge.
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They got a right to due process. And that happened. They had that due process. But 90%
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have been ordered removed. So if we don't execute the final decision of the courts, there is no due
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process. It means nothing. You can't demand due process and ignore the final decision of the
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courts. If we do that, they might as well just shut down immigration courts, take the border
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off the border. There's no consequences. You can't ask to implement a system of laws and ignore the
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final result. And that's why we're going to have a massive deportation operation, because
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millions of people across this border, 90% would get an order of removal. We got to
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remove them. So any member of Congress who wants to educate, and we made it clear the
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Trump administration is going to concentrate in this, the worst of the worst, worst public
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safety threats, right? I can't believe any member of Congress wants to educate an illegal
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alien who's been convicted of a serious offense, he's got order of removal at the due process
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at great taxpayer expense, and wants to educate them on how to date arrest. To me, they are
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resigned their position as member of Congress, because they're doing the complete opposite
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Can I ask you about, what about the Democrat mayors and governors who have promised, claimed,
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in some cases claimed, that they're going to harbor illegal aliens in their own homes?
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Have you found that they're actually doing this? What are they doing to interfere with
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your operations? Or are they kind of getting in line? What's going on there?
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They haven't crossed the line yet. But if they cross the line, they're going to be prosecuted.
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You can stand aside and watch ICE do your job. ICE is making their community safer. And I find
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it hard to believe every day that there's any mayor or governor or city council person that
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doesn't want public safety threats removed from the public. It's in their more responsibilities
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for community safety. If you want to help us, get the hell out of the way. Well, I've been,
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I've warned numerous mayors and governors, don't cross that line. If you impede us, that's a felony.
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And Pam Bondi, we'll ask Pam Bondi to prosecute. If you harbor or conceal an illegal alien,
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knowingly harbor or conceal an alien from ICE, that's a felony. In my career, I've arrested
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U.S. citizens for harboring, concealing an illegal alien in the workplace or a home. If I can prosecute
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a U.S. citizen for doing it, why can't we prosecute a politician who does that same thing?
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So, you know, I think we've got a strong A.G. and Pam Bondi. And if they cross that line,
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we should prosecute and make an example of them.
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You know, to your point earlier, sir, it's perfectly reasonable, perfectly understandable
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why someone living south of our border in particular would want to get to the greatest
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country in the history of the world. That's, it's a no-brainer. When you add further incentives
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through all of our government programs, all the handouts, the open invitations that Joe Biden and
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his administration were putting out to people to come to the country, you can't be surprised
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when they do. At the same time, the idea that American politicians would engage in harboring
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those people, it seems to me, it's very easy to throw around words like treason in political
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discussion. But when you're actually using your position as an elected representative of the
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American people to help criminal aliens in the country at the expense of your own constituents,
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I mean, how is that not a treasonous offense? When Joe Biden shuts down the Remain in Mexico
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program and says, no, instead, we're going to bring millions of people into the country who
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don't need to be here. We already have a solution. The first Trump administration implemented the
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solution. We're going to remove the solution. How is that not treasonous?
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Look, I think a lot of what they did is treasonous. Take, for example, the Gataways, right?
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They overwhelmed the Border Patrol where many nights, 70%, 7-0, 70% of agents were pulled off
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the line to make sandwiches, change diapers, make baby forms, make hospital runs, dealing with this
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humanitarian crisis they created on purpose. And the Border Patrol is overwhelmed. So we've got 30%
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of Border Patrols left on the line. Then the criminal cartels have sent a group of 100 family units in
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one area, knowing that 30% are going to seize that opportunity to deal with a humanitarian crisis
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there, which the cartels create gaps. So you've got 2.2 million known Gataways. You've got to ask
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yourself, why did 2 million plus people pay more to get away? Because you pay the cartels one amount
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of money to get to the border. The cartel's job ends when you get to the border because you turn
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yourself into a green uniform. You get released within 24 hours. You get a free airline ticket to
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the city of your choice. You get put in a free hotel room. You get three meals a day in free medical
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care. After about three months, you get work authorization, the very reason they came here.
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So why did 2 million people pay more not to take advantage of that giveaway program?
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Why did they pay more to get away? Because they didn't want to be vetted. They didn't want to
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be fingerprinted. These are going to be people are trafficking women and children. They're going
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to be ones carrying a fat and all. And they're going to be ones coming from a country sponsoring terror.
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Now, under Trump in four years, we rest a total of 14 people on terrorist watch list. 14 in four years.
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This Biden administration had 14 in a day. I mean, they were up over 400. So the question is,
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Border Patrol has arrested people from 181 different countries. Many of these countries are sponsored
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of terror. They've arrested over 400. How many of that 2.2 million came from countries sponsored
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terror? If you think it's zero, you're a moron. So this is the biggest national security vulnerability
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I've seen in my lifetime. Even FBI Director Wray, who I don't like, even he agreed this is the biggest
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national security vulnerability. He's seen a lot of red flags. What they did when they purposely opened
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this border up is create the biggest national security vulnerability this nation's ever seen.
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And we know there's people here that want to do us harm. We know national security threats entered
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this country. We're monitoring some. Some, we don't know where there are. So when you use the word
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trees, I agree with you. Because they, on purpose, created this open border, which resulted in a
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significant national security concern, national security vulnerability. We all know something's
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coming. The intelligence community believes something's going to be coming. And thank God
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we got President Trump in the Oval Office to deal with it when it happens.
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And when you talk about this, it's very clear that the Biden administration, it was an act of will for
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them to leave the border this way. I was talking to you before we were on air that I was actually
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down at the border in Arizona. There's a Native American reservation right along the border. There's
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no fencing there because the Native American reservation doesn't want there to be fencing there.
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And so basically it's wide open. And the Biden administration, I was told by Border Patrol,
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had assigned them to process people as a number one priority. The drug cartels would essentially
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drive up with a truck filled with people. They would unload them at the border. There was actually a
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button they could hit at the border that would call Border Patrol to them. Border Patrol would
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then have to take them for processing and that would leave the rest of the border completely
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wide open for the predations of the drug cartels. I think one part of the story that hasn't been told
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here is just how much the Biden administration enriched the drug cartels. The drug cartels made
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literally billions of dollars off of human trafficking and drug smuggling during the course of the Biden
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administration. No one celebrated that election more than the criminal cartels. They knew they were back
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in business. The reason there's so much violence in Mexico right now, because the cartels make
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them more money they've ever made in sex trafficking, women and children, alien smuggling, and the
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smuggling of narcotics. Now, there's a lot of discontent in Mexico because President Trump has
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taken billions of dollars out of their pockets when he secures that border. So I think you're
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going to see more violence on the border. I don't think they're going to go away quietly. I think
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President Trump did the right thing, designated them terrorist organizations, because these cartels
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have killed more Americans than every terrorist organization in the world combined.
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But what they did to the border was on purpose. I agree 100%. And here's why I know it's on purpose.
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We never talked about this. Let me just mention this. When Barack Obama was president,
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Joe Biden was vice president, Secretary Mayorkas was a deputy secretary. We had a surge of family
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groups coming across the border. How did we stop it? We built family residential centers. We held them long
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enough to see a judge. 91% lost their case. We put them in an airplane, send them home, and the border
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numbers dumped. So Mayorkas knows how we fixed it. And Biden knows how we fixed it. So what they do when
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he becomes president, Mayorkas becomes secretary. They don't contain him. They don't make him see a judge. They
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don't deport him. They did exactly the opposite of what proved worked when he was vice president,
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the secretary of my office, the deputy secretary. So this wasn't an accident. They did the exact
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opposite of what they knew we succeeded with when President Obama was in office. So this wasn't,
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again, this was by design. They knew exactly what they were doing. And the reason they didn't detain
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them is because when an alien is in detention, they get a hearing within 40 days at top,
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which means in 40 days, that 91% be ordered, removed, and they go home. That's not what they
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wanted. So they released them to NGOs, put them in the hotel room, because once you're out of
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ICE custody, it's called the non-detained docket. Non-detained docket takes anywhere from three years
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to nine years, depending on what city you're in. Wow. And they knew in that three to nine years,
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they'll get one or two-year citizen kids. They'll get equities here, and hopefully a
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Democratic Congress and Democratic president that will reward them an amnesty.
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This is why they didn't detain them. They don't want them removed,
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so they figured they put them on the non-custody docket with immigration court.
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Their cases are so far down the road that there'll be a change in the administration,
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and they can award them an amnesty. That's exactly what is their plan. And thank God we
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changed that in November. Mr. Holman, you mentioned just now that President Trump redefined these
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organizations as foreign terrorist organizations. And a lot of people hear that, and they think,
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well, that's just kind of a new way of describing them. But obviously, that is an official
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classification that then frees up certain American resources to deal with them. So in case there are
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any face-tattooed gangsters watching the stream tonight, practically speaking, what does it mean
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that the cartels can anticipate now that they're designated this way? If you're involved in cartels
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anyway, if you're transporting for them, if you're moving money for them, if you're helping these
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cartels in any way, then you are part of a terrorist organization, and we'll charge you with terrorist
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related crimes, which has significant penalties. Being designated terrorist brings a whole of U.S.
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government, I'm including the military. We're not just going to attack them on our southern border,
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we're going to attack them across the globe. Calisco cartels in 43 countries around the globe.
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Not only are they moving drugs across the border, that's the way it used to be, now they have a
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presence in every major city in this country. So on top of smuggling narcotics in this country,
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they're taking over the interior distribution of narcotics within our largest cities. We're going to
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attack them on the border, we're going to attack them in the interior of the United States, we're going
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to attack them in every country around the world with the assistance of the other countries. This designation
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is put them on notice. We're going to use the whole might of the United States government
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to take them out. We're going to, and the first thing we do is take their money. If they don't
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have money, they have no power. They can't buy the Mexican military. They can't buy Mexican
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legislation. They can't buy Mexican judges. So we're going to shut them down one piece at a time.
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What President Trump did by designating a terrorist organization, take the first step
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of whiting these cartels off the face of the earth. You know who's going to be more grateful
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than anybody? The country in Mexico. I've said this many times, there's a lot of corruption in Mexico,
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whether it's the military, law enforcement, or government officials. Many of them didn't choose
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to be corrupt, but cartels will tell you, you're going to do this and we're going to kill you and
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your family. To take the cartels out of Mexico and demolish them and incinerate them and take them
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off the face of the earth, we're going to free Mexico. Mexico wants to be under the control of the
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cartels. They can operate in a free society. So I think no one's been more grateful in Mexico.
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Porter's our Tom Holman, thank you for making time with us. It's a huge night. We're very
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grateful for the work you're doing. Very grateful for the work that President Trump is doing and
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just looking forward to actually having some sanity and law and order on the southern border. Thank you.
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I appreciate the thanks. Let's give the thanks to the men and women wearing the green uniform. We're
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down there 24-7. While I'm sitting at this event tonight, there's some board
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tribulation standing on a dirt trail someplace. It's going to take somebody on, whether it's just
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an illegal ant or a heavy-armed drug smuggler. These are the men and women who sit on that board 24-7
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while we're laying in bed sleeping safe at night. Thank the ICE agents who are out there, you know,
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with a Kevlar vest and a gun on their hip, going to sanctuary cities, arresting bad people because
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they couldn't arrest them in the jail. And we got leakers telling people where these operations are.
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Let's pray for the men and women with ICE that they go home safe to their families every night.
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There's the real heroes. I'm grateful to be in. I got a great president, but I want to thank the
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men and women on the front line who are doing the job. Steve Miller is the architect, brilliant,
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probably one of the smartest men I ever met. We strategize. We come up with plans. We come up with
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the methods of what we want done. But the men and women carrying the badge and gun,
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God bless them. Let's keep them safe because they're doing God's work on the front line.
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So quite a treat to have Tom Holman with us, and also a treat that Ben and Matt get to attend
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this event. And to make it even better is that you had to go to the Joe Biden.
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I know. I'm feeling a little gypped. I mean, I'm very grateful to my friend Congressman Andy Ogles
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for having me last year. It was very cool to be at the State of the Union. But I had to listen to
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Joe Biden incoherently scream for like 45 minutes. And you guys get to go to the UFC fight of State
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of the Union addresses. It's going to be super fun. Oh, it is going to be great. First of all,
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I think there's a good shot that President Trump is going to announce this rare earth mineral deal
00:21:34.360
with Ukraine. So that'll be a big win for him. And I think it'll rectify a lot of the breach that
00:21:38.680
happened last Friday in that extraordinarily combative press conference between Zelensky,
00:21:43.320
President Trump, and Vice President J.D. Vance. He's obviously going to talk about his
00:21:47.240
accomplishments on immigration that Bordazar Homan just mentioned a moment ago. He's going to be
00:21:52.120
talking about the investments that were just made by a number of companies in America. The TSMC,
00:21:57.240
which is, of course, the gigantic semiconductor maker in Taiwan, has announced they're going to spend
00:22:01.480
a hundred billion dollars additionally in the United States. The Honda Civic is now going to
00:22:04.840
be produced entirely in Indiana as opposed to in Mexico. I'm sure he's going to be talking a lot
00:22:08.920
about that. There's been a lot of winning. He's going to talk about DEI. I'm sure he'll talk about
00:22:12.520
Matt's big issue, the issue that if one person really helped push over the line, it was Matt Walsh,
00:22:17.320
the death of men in women's sports. I'm sure he's going to mention that as well. I mean,
00:22:21.960
this has been, as we discussed last time we were together, the fastest moving administration
00:22:26.840
in modern American history. I mean, this administration is moving like absolute
00:22:29.880
lightning. It's going to give Trump a lot to talk about. And of course, it's going to get
00:22:33.240
spicy because I would be shocked if there's no dramatics from the fainting couch left out there.
00:22:38.520
Some of them are not showing up. And frankly, to me, that seems like the best tactic for some of
00:22:43.320
them. I think that the ones who are idiots are going to show up and make fools of themselves.
00:22:46.440
You know, it seems like not showing up, though. They actually get paid to show up. That's what
00:22:49.400
they're there for. It seems like everything they do, every strategy they come up with,
00:22:53.560
which just sends them further and further into the wilderness. And I agree for them. I miss them
00:22:57.560
deeply. But I think that if they just continue to protest cutting fraud and waste, if they continue
00:23:02.440
to protest securing the border, if they continue to protest putting not allowing men into women's
00:23:07.800
sports, I could be gone before there's another Democrat administration, which may be only 10 minutes
00:23:14.120
away. But still, I think that this could be a long, long term in exile. They seem to have learned
00:23:19.240
absolutely nothing. Yeah. I mean, you mentioned some of the members not showing up tonight,
00:23:24.040
but even the Democrat governors who say, no, by golly, we're going to ignore federal law and we're
00:23:29.240
going to force hulking dudes to crack women's skulls. And they elect David Hogg, one of the least
00:23:35.560
likable Democrats, even among Democrats, to be the vice chairman of the party. It just seems like
00:23:40.920
these guys cannot possibly win for losing. I would like to ask a question of you guys.
00:23:45.800
You know, when I'm listening to Hulman talk about the border, this lawlessness, this incredible,
00:23:52.220
it was an invasion. I mean, I know that's like a big word, but it was an invasion allowed by the
00:23:57.080
president of the United States, allowing us to be invaded. And you hear all these theories,
00:24:01.360
they're bringing in voters, it's the great replacement and all this. Do you think that
00:24:06.000
that was the strategy? Was that it, that they just thought that this would turn the Democrats?
00:24:10.340
They told us this in 2004. Ben, you correct me because you probably remember the paper better.
00:24:14.960
It was 04 or 06. There was a very prominent political science paper pushed by the left
00:24:20.160
on this strategy to import people from all over the world and to have a permanent electoral majority.
00:24:26.160
And I don't think they were counting on Trump winning 46% of Hispanics or an increasing number
00:24:30.500
of black male votes or anything like that. But, but they were, I think they were pretty open about
00:24:34.260
it. I don't think they hid the ball. Because they say it's happening in Europe too.
00:24:37.280
I mean, I think there's some of that. I also think that there was, I think that there's something
00:24:40.100
else happening too. And that is that there's been this myth in democratic politics really since 2012
00:24:44.280
that you could create a permanent minority majority coalition. And so it was almost a
00:24:50.160
no loss proposition for them. They figured that they were going to win more Hispanic votes in
00:24:53.180
the United States by opening the vote and by opening the border. And they could simultaneously
00:24:57.020
bring in new voters. And at the same time, they'd be pleasing all of their white liberal college
00:25:01.000
graduates who believe that the United States bears blood guilt for ever having won Texas and
00:25:04.320
California from Mexico. And so it was sort of a win-win for them. And what they didn't understand is that
00:25:08.700
you are now creating a backlash that's going to make for your undoing. I mean, if there's one issue
00:25:11.980
more than any other that really swung the election, it was the illegal immigration issue. And number
00:25:16.220
two, it was the trans issue. And Democrats are unable to, to kind of let go of both. But I want to ask
00:25:20.100
my buddy Matt here, because he's been sitting here silently as is his wants during, during our
00:25:23.400
backstage. He's, he's always very excited to be here as, as we know, and he's even more excited to
00:25:28.320
travel. Matt, do you feel the electricity? Do you feel the energy? Are you just like ecstatic to be here?
00:25:34.140
Okay. I appreciate the pity, uh, throwing it to me. So I have, I have something to say. Uh, and I,
00:25:39.800
I, it's a, it's a great honor to be here. We're a little too physically close right now. So this is,
00:25:43.680
it's an uncomfortable physical proximity. I'm not accustomed to, uh, I am wearing, I'm wearing a tie
00:25:49.660
for the first time in two years. So that shows you how much I, and actually, and there's a pocket
00:25:54.260
square. I'm going to note that right before this, by the way, Matt actually did up his tie. Like a few
00:25:58.400
minutes ago, before we began, uh, Matt had not buttoned his top button.
00:26:01.740
Yeah, but you've, you've got the tie tight enough that you can masquerade and his short
00:26:06.280
was pretty loose. And he kind of looked as though, and he had the cup of whiskey in front
00:26:10.060
of him and the glass of whiskey. And he looked as though, you know, he'd worked a long day
00:26:13.640
at the, at the accounting office and now he'd been finally released to his local pub where
00:26:18.280
he could, where he could, you know, just let the tie down a little bit. And that was actually
00:26:21.340
him dressed up. So I'm just going to point that out.
00:26:23.660
I don't even know if we're, can we drink alcohol where we are right now in these sacred
00:26:27.640
It's Congress, my friend. I will say it was pretty cool. We, we, we met with Speaker
00:26:35.040
Johnson right before this and, uh, he actually took us to take a picture, which I'm sure
00:26:38.660
has now been posted online. And, uh, and you can, and he actually showed us a room that
00:26:42.640
apparently has never been used in the Capitol building, which was a prayer room. It was actually
00:26:47.840
like a prayer room off to the side. It was really cool. It is a beautiful stained glass window
00:26:51.580
of George Washington kneeling in prayer, you know, the famous painting, uh, and emblems
00:26:57.140
And George Washington was the last one to use it.
00:26:58.880
Yes, exactly. Well, I mean, at least use it for prayer. I mean, I'm hoping that none of
00:27:02.920
the other Congress people discovered it because the one rule about Congress is you never want
00:27:06.400
to blacklight anything here. It's just a huge mistake.
00:27:08.780
Yeah. So basically this is going to be a giant pep rally for the right tonight and to make it all
00:27:17.560
the more glorious, we're going to be filling up with leftist tears, left, right, and center.
00:27:20.920
Is there anything, is there anything being bandied about that we think, um, would, would be a
00:27:27.320
surprise? Is there anything that is Donald Trump going to do anything here tonight that shocks his
00:27:31.680
constituency or is this pure fan fiction playing out right in front of us tonight?
00:27:35.620
Right. Well, I think the, the big floating idea is that you could get an announcement of the
00:27:41.460
Ukraine deal, which might surprise some people because a president Trump picked that fellow up
00:27:46.720
and flung him out the window the other day during the Oval Office meeting. But again, you know,
00:27:50.460
these kinds of deals are bigger than just one shouting match in the Oval Office. So you could
00:27:54.480
see that that would be somewhat surprising. Obviously president Trump last night implemented these
00:27:58.580
tariffs on Mexico and Canada, uh, which surprised some people because I think some people believed
00:28:03.200
that the tariffs were merely a negotiating ploy to try to get concessions on fentanyl or border
00:28:09.540
enforcement or whatever. Uh, however, I think Trump campaigned on believing in tariffs in terms of
00:28:15.220
economic theory, like in, in tariffs for the good of the American economy. Well, not just tariffs
00:28:19.880
themselves though, balanced tariffs. In other words, why should we have tariffs on our goods going out
00:28:24.480
and not put tariffs on people coming in? The whole ethos of Trump is we're not your daddy. You know,
00:28:30.060
if we're going to help you, you're going to help us. We want to get paid for what we do. We want you
00:28:33.900
to take a part of your own defense. And I've been telling Europeans this for over a decade, that all
00:28:39.260
their, their wonderful welfare programs that they have in their universal healthcare that they have
00:28:43.760
is paid for by us because we protect them. Right. Of course. But the one surprise tonight,
00:28:48.680
uh, potentially could be that Trump, as Howard Lettnick was suggesting earlier today, Trump could
00:28:54.700
roll back some of those tariffs that he announced last night. So that might be somewhat surprising.
00:28:59.580
Otherwise I'm expecting the pep rally. I don't know about you guys. It's too late to buy any index
00:29:04.620
funds. Yeah, exactly. I mean, I would be, I'd be a little surprised if he rolls back to tariffs that
00:29:10.640
quickly. Um, I think that he has to have some sort of headline that he can latch onto in order to do
00:29:15.460
that. Some sort of win that he can say that he prized out of Canada or Mexico in, in order to do
00:29:20.020
that. The one thing about president Trump that I've said many times, but I think you're going to see
00:29:24.140
it play out with regard to these tariffs is that president Trump likes good headlines and he does not
00:29:27.880
like bad headlines when to the Dow Jones industrial average drops by 1500 points in two days. And
00:29:32.800
suddenly the lights start blinking red. I don't think the president Trump is so wedded to the
00:29:36.560
magical idea of tariffs. They won't reverse himself in order to sort of preserve economic
00:29:40.760
health. Yeah. That's one thing. And there had been some, some rumors, you know, I doubt that he'll do
00:29:44.920
it tonight, but obviously I was pushing very hard today, uh, to pardon Derek Chauvin, which I think
00:29:49.320
would be a good move for the country because I, you know, while he was convicted on state charges,
00:29:53.740
wouldn't free him from prison. I do think that it would be very good and salutary for the country
00:29:57.540
for the federal government to make clear that it is not going to hold to account people for crimes
00:30:02.880
they, they did not commit and which the jury was pretty obviously poisoned by everybody
00:30:07.240
surrounding the court. Anybody who thinks that Derek Chauvin got a fair trial, regardless of what
00:30:10.940
you think of the actual outcome of the trial, anybody who pretends that that was even remotely a
00:30:14.520
fair trial or the evidence stacked up to the conviction in that case, I honest to God, don't
00:30:18.700
understand what, what you're thinking to, to be fairly frank with you. Uh, and, uh, again,
00:30:23.280
I think it would be a shocker if president Trump said anything about it tonight. Um, but I would not
00:30:27.080
be surprised if something in the near future is done about it. Yeah. Well, Ben and Matt, uh, you've
00:30:31.540
got to get to your seats. The show's about to begin. You're sitting with speaker in speaker Johnson's,
00:30:36.260
uh, uh, box, as I understand. It's an unbelievable honor. I have no doubt that Drew and I will be
00:30:42.300
invited to the next state of the union. Tell speaker Johnson, we actually met, he and I met right after he
00:30:47.660
was elected. I sat next to him at the first Trump prayer breakfast and he's forgotten me entirely.
00:30:52.000
He doesn't care. Yeah, I know. He doesn't care. You guys have a great night. We'll see you after
00:30:56.500
the president's remarks. Hopefully we're able to get you back. Um, and in the meantime, we're going
00:31:00.860
to look at the people coming in, which is always kind of my favorite part of this, like the red carpet
00:31:04.900
of ugly people, when people walk, make their grand entrances into the state of the union. All right,
00:31:11.680
guys, we'll see you later. Yeah. Yeah. Bye. Catch you later.
00:31:17.660
Ben and Matt off to the speaker's box to hear president Donald Trump make his address to a
00:31:25.380
joint session of Congress. We're seeing all the best people walking into,
00:31:29.640
walking into the Capitol as we speak. It's actually kind of fun. I mean, it really
00:31:33.680
saw Elon a second ago and, uh, of course, vice president J.D. Vance and speaker Mike Johnson
00:31:39.420
already, uh, up on the podium. And then, uh, a bunch of really sullen looking Democrats,
00:31:45.000
which makes it, I can't imagine what's wrong with them. They are quite colorful though. It's
00:31:49.400
interesting because in recent years, the Democrats, especially the squad Democrats have worn white
00:31:54.580
to make themselves look like the suffragettes or something this year. They're wearing pink. I
00:31:59.460
maybe the, I don't know the purity femininity. It's the femininity. No one was buying the white
00:32:03.780
softness and gentleness in the day. I noticed that none of them have shaved their heads.
00:32:07.580
Yeah. I feel like if you're going to do it, if you're going to do it, do it all the way.
00:32:10.900
I'm waiting. I, you know, I like this whole idea of them having noisemakers and, you know,
00:32:15.240
like throwing, throwing egg, firecrackers and things. Yeah. They can't humiliate themselves
00:32:20.380
anymore. At least as far as I'm concerned, they can't humiliate themselves enough to actually,
00:32:25.140
uh, humiliate themselves as much as they deserve. So Nancy Pelosi is not a young woman.
00:32:32.020
Well, you know, evil ages you. She's actually only 40. It's just the evil has sucked all the life
00:32:38.840
of it. What does it say on that lady's jacket? We the people. Huh? It may have been the 14th
00:32:44.220
amendment on her sleeve. It's interesting. I'm not positive, but I think it may have been
00:32:48.520
the text of the 14th amendment. We're hearing that the president is running just a few minutes late,
00:32:53.020
which I call presidential prerogative. Of course. You, you, or just rudeness. Wherever the president
00:32:58.160
arrives, he is precisely on time. That's right. That is one of the perks of the job. It's like
00:33:02.980
classifying documents. He just declares it. You know, it's hard to tell exactly what the Democrats
00:33:07.380
are trying to convey with their coordinated outfits, because the white was supposed to
00:33:11.340
coordinate, to convey women's rights, you know, hearkening back to the suffragettes.
00:33:15.460
The pink presumably is more, and we have Melania walking in now, uh, looking much more elegant
00:33:19.880
than any of the Democrats. Anybody else? But, but the pink, I suppose, is to communicate
00:33:23.900
women's rights vis-a-vis abortion, I would guess. Hey, there's Ben Shapiro. I know them.
00:33:30.500
Wait a second. I'm certain it has something to do with abortion. It's really the, it's the only
00:33:37.740
issue they care about. But I guess it, that to me again states that the Democrats haven't learned
00:33:42.880
anything from the election because abortion was supposed to win in the election and they lost the
00:33:47.200
biggest, the biggest, uh, election that they'd lost in 20 years. So then even this 14th amendment
00:33:53.120
thing, you know, trying to make an argument that birthright citizenship, uh, pertains to anchor
00:33:58.200
babies and illegal aliens. Even the New York times ran a column the other day, uh, making a good
00:34:04.320
point that actually it's unclear from the 14th amendment and the Supreme court has never definitively
00:34:08.740
ruled on that. So I don't know. It seems like they're fishing for an issue. Well, see, usually
00:34:12.540
it's the right who is blind to the culture, but this is a really interesting situation in which the
00:34:18.900
left does not know that that shield of invisibility that was created by our corrupt news media has
00:34:24.340
vanished. It's been, it's been destroyed by the evil us. And, and I think that they just don't get
00:34:30.320
it. They do not get that. We can see them. They don't get that they're standing there naked and
00:34:34.000
like the whole country is kind of laughing at them. The president's cabinet arriving now is the
00:34:38.380
secretary of state, Marco Rubio and, and crew, uh, Pete Hegseth, who's kind of a friend of the
00:34:45.740
organization and a fellow Nashville, uh, resident with us. Howard Lutnick. People don't know this.
00:34:52.700
Howard Lutnick, uh, talked to us one time about buying the daily wire. Really? Not buying it. He,
00:34:56.840
he wanted to help us take it public at one time. Can we nationalize it now? Yeah. Well, that would
00:35:00.820
be, is it gone? I like Lutnick. He's, I like his enthusiasm. I do too. I get a big kick out of,
00:35:05.500
uh, out of Lutnick. He's a, you know, he's, he actually is Bobby Axelrod. They say that the
00:35:12.820
character was actually, they say the character was actually written in part. Is it really based on
00:35:16.940
Lutnick? Yeah. Yeah. That checks out. Based on Howard Lutnick. His RFK, I'm surprised he showed up
00:35:21.100
because he has measles. Oh yeah. Heart's breaking all over the crunchosphere as he, uh, endorsed the
00:35:28.620
mRNA vaccine. Except, did you read the column? So the, the headline. Not mRNA. Oh, the, the measles,
00:35:34.380
the MMR. So the headline from foxnews.com was, you know, uh, the measles vaccine is really important
00:35:41.020
and it's crucial to fighting the disease. If you read the column. So the editors write the headline.
00:35:45.400
If you read the column, he never endorses the vaccine. Really? And in fact, he says, really,
00:35:50.380
the best way to fight this is good nutrition. And you know, actually 98% of deaths, uh, disappeared
00:35:56.120
before the measles vaccine. So if you read the text of it, clearly HHS and the white house want to hedge
00:36:01.940
their bets a little bit in case there is a big outbreak. But what's funny is if I'm reading the
00:36:06.820
tea leaves, I'm looking to invest maybe in different big pharma companies. I think this health
00:36:11.260
secretary still hates the vaccine. If he hates the measles vaccines, he's a, he's a doofus
00:36:16.540
because the measles vaccine cured the measles. It's like, whatever it appears, they're gone.
00:36:21.820
At the very least, he is the greatest Kennedy. That's a cruel thing to say. I will say that the
00:36:29.080
make America healthy again movement, I think that it has some very good foundations. And then it also
00:36:34.960
has a little bit of kooky, uh, uh, silliness to it. I get the sense though, that RFK Jr. is one of
00:36:43.020
the most genuinely decent dudes in, in American politics. Really? I just think that he's a,
00:36:49.360
I think he actually likes people. Yeah. I think he actually likes the country. Yeah. I think he's,
00:36:54.680
I think he's intelligent. I think he's intelligent. Yeah. Yeah. And I love that he drove a chainsawed
00:37:00.540
off whale head from Kennebunkport to my hometown. Okay. That's the part I like. Yeah. I don't know.
00:37:05.480
There's a lot of stuff with the women. I'm not sure. Well, you can't judge a Kennedy.
00:37:10.780
That's only 50% of the world. If, if all of the women, uh, in his background are still alive and
00:37:16.580
none of them are submerged. We lost one, we lost one of them, didn't we? Yeah. That's a fair point. Yeah.
00:37:22.580
Hmm. We, uh, we also now, I actually, oh, I guess that's Usha Vance. I don't know who the
00:37:27.780
two other women are. But I want, you know, you know how they always introduce people that
00:37:33.080
they've helped, but I want one is for Trump to say, heal and for Walsh to stand up and go,
00:37:37.820
I can walk again. Shapiro can say like, that was better than Jesus. I'd never like that.
00:37:44.820
Oh man. Oh man. You can't say things like that. Oh, I'm sorry.
00:37:48.560
We've got just imagining what would be fun. Long speeches. So everyone's still mingling. This is
00:37:58.160
not kicking off for a little while now. No, no, no. This is mingle city. Yeah. Yeah. It is
00:38:03.440
interesting though, to think in, in recent memory, we've had a mixture of conservatives and liberals
00:38:09.800
up there on the dais. We've had at least one woman, you know, Nancy Pelosi ripping up the beach.
00:38:15.220
We've had Kamala Harris up there, you know, being Kamala. And now just a bunch of Republican dudes,
00:38:21.980
you know, just a bunch of normal looking Republican white dudes. Yeah.
00:38:26.900
Yeah. I like to think we're back. We're back. We're so back.
00:38:31.220
The New York Times today ran an article, Trump has bullying masculinity. I thought good.
00:38:37.300
A lot of people who need bullying in that town.
00:38:40.340
It'd be very interesting to see what the president chooses to cover in the speech. Obviously Donald Trump
00:38:44.840
has never given a short speech. Well, except his inaugural speech.
00:38:51.900
That's true. He was pushed inside. Yeah. That's right. But then in fairness,
00:38:56.040
he immediately went downstairs and gave the rest of the speech. Absolutely true. That's absolutely
00:39:00.840
right. And this one, you know, truly, Trump said we get tired of winning and I almost am tired of
00:39:08.060
winning. And I mean, in a very literal way, and I do have three kids, four and under, and I've been
00:39:11.380
traveling a lot. This news cycle is exhausting because Trump, whether you love him or hate him,
00:39:18.400
you have to admit he has notched so many victories in the first month in office.
00:39:23.460
Yeah. We're like 45 days or something into it. Less than that. Less than that. Yeah. And I, I,
00:39:28.120
I personally have not stopped grinning. I have been giddy and it's like, you know, sometimes Trump
00:39:32.540
annoys me. Sometimes he doesn't, but like, I think he's doing great. I love what he's doing. And you know,
00:39:37.680
it's funny, this needed to happen and there's going to be some ancillary damage. I mean, I,
00:39:43.360
I'm sorry for some of the people losing their jobs. Some of the people who lose their jobs are
00:39:46.520
going to be good people. Yeah. But this cancer of these agencies has to be ripped out. There's just,
00:39:51.160
just has to. And, and the president needs to be able to run the executive. The executive. I mean,
00:39:56.100
this is kind of basic stuff. So, you know, the Democrats are whining. I was on a liberal news show
00:40:02.020
recently. They said, oh, isn't there a threat to the separation of powers? And I thought, no, no,
00:40:06.280
there was a threat to the separation of powers. Trump is exerting actually his just authority.
00:40:11.400
I would like to hear a lawyer. I have not asked a really, a real constitutional lawyer,
00:40:15.220
how the legislature can create an agency in the executive branch that the executive can't destroy.
00:40:21.320
It seems to me if it's in the executive branch, the executive can do anything he wants with it.
00:40:25.080
Well, the trick of it is, and this is kind of what Chevron is ultimately,
00:40:29.680
was ultimately about is that it actually is the legislature ceding its authority
00:40:35.660
to regulate to executive agencies. But then the executive doesn't have control over.
00:40:43.760
No, they created a branch of government. They created a branch of government.
00:40:48.320
And all this stuff about Elon Musk wasn't elected, you know, when they have all of these people.
00:40:52.980
But the other crazy thing when they knock Elon and the Department of Government Efficiency,
00:40:57.900
Doge has a 100 year plus precedent that this began really under Wilson, Wilson, the Bureau of Efficiency,
00:41:05.000
that reformed the executive branch. After that, you had FDR, had the Brownlow Commission.
00:41:10.820
That created the executive office of the president. After FDR, Truman had the Hoover Commission.
00:41:16.300
Same thing, reorganized the executive. Reagan had the Grace Commission.
00:41:19.460
My favorite example, though, is more recently Al Gore as vice president.
00:41:24.480
It was Al Gore in the 90s. I actually, oddly enough, was just sitting behind Al Gore on an airplane.
00:41:28.960
Well, apparently global warming doesn't pay anymore because he was sitting right in front of me, commercial.
00:41:32.660
But Al Gore in the 90s had the National Initiative for Reinventing Government.
00:41:37.760
And it fired a quarter million federal employees and it consolidated 800 agencies.
00:41:45.080
I know. He was the most successful. The only problem with him is a lot of it was gutting the military.
00:41:49.740
Because they thought the Cold War was over and they were going to get rid of all these soldiers.
00:41:52.980
It was actually a bad thing. But in terms of cutting government and cutting regulation, Gore was very successful.
00:41:59.600
You know, Clinton was a good president domestically. If you don't look at him overseas, he was actually not a bad person.
00:42:11.440
It is fun to think back to the 90s. As you know, I always say that the 90s were the peak of American civilization.
00:42:19.280
The 90s are like the new 50s. That's the new era that you look back to.
00:42:23.880
But it's so much better than the 50s. In the 50s, we were in the middle of this Cold War, the nuclear arms race, the space race.
00:42:33.180
In the 90s, we didn't have a single problem. In the 90s, we could ascend Bill Clinton twice to be president of the United States.
00:42:44.360
In the 1990s, we could make Smash Mouth, a best-selling rock and roll band, singing songs about having your finger and your thumb in the shape of an L on your forehead, because literally nothing was wrong.
00:43:01.580
That was the great Onion headline when 9-11 happened. Americans yearned to care about stupid crap again.
00:43:09.760
That was the 90s, no question. I spent the 90s in England, so I missed the whole thing. It was great in England.
00:43:20.480
In the 1990s, Kurt Cobain killed himself to protest that nothing was wrong.
00:43:29.900
Now, is this? All right, now we have, ladies and gentlemen, the president of the United States.
00:43:42.180
I mean, what a triumphant moment for Donald Trump.
00:43:49.620
This is like the greatest version of when Nigel Farage went to the European legislators.
00:43:57.820
And he said, you know, I came here a decade ago, and I said we were leaving the EU, and you all laughed at me.
00:44:03.180
Who's laughing now? This is Donald Trump's who's laughing now moment.
00:44:07.520
And in living memory, nothing like this has ever happened.
00:44:09.900
No, I don't think it's ever. I can't think of anything. Maybe Napoleon is skipping from that.
00:44:15.000
You know, my son has a little placemat with all the presidents on the dining room table, and he loves Trump.
00:44:24.440
He loves Johnson for some reason, but he loves Trump. He points to Trump better.
00:44:33.980
But there's one president with two pictures on there.
00:44:42.220
And, you know, so Trump runs for president in 16, and he says, I'm going to be great, I'm going to be greatest president, so historic.
00:44:52.240
He is now one of the most significant figures in American history.
00:45:01.640
And it's still, you know, it's up for grabs whether he's going to get away with doing what he has to do, which is killing the influence of the deep state.
00:45:11.340
But he did get kissed by Nancy Mace, which I think is...
00:45:25.920
I keep thinking that the sergeant-in-arms is Senator Bob Menendez.
00:45:52.660
I don't think anyone else has such a handsome goatee.
00:46:05.560
He's recovered from sinking into the couch during that Oval Office.
00:46:08.580
The old man, he looked like he was just going to see some steam behind him.
00:46:12.140
It was sort of like that meme of Homer Simpson backing into the bush.
00:46:47.200
Now, I couldn't quite see which justices made it.
00:47:02.740
Scalia, famously, would not go to the State of the Union.
00:47:05.880
He went in the first few years, and then he said it was just a ridiculous political display,
00:47:11.660
So, the president about to take the podium and address the Joint Session of Congress.
00:47:17.260
We'll cut to his remarks, and then we'll be back as soon as the speech is over to tell you what we think about it.
00:47:26.380
An amazing speech by Donald Trump to the Joint Session of Congress.
00:47:30.280
Maybe the longest joint session ever by a president of the United States.
00:47:34.660
I mean, if we think of it as a State of the Union address, even though technically it isn't one, you know, was this an hour 40, an hour 50 minutes?
00:47:42.820
Bill Clinton had some doozies in there, so I don't know if it was the longest ever.
00:47:46.500
But, you know, I was there at Biden's last year, and it felt long.
00:47:51.780
Yeah, I mean, he might have pushed it closer to an hour, but it felt like two days.
00:47:55.820
And this one, I'm not saying there weren't moments that lulled compared to others, but I was engaged for about 92 percent of this.
00:48:04.980
I mean, this was an amazingly well-written and delivered speech.
00:48:12.700
Really, the Democrats set the trap for themselves, and he just called their attention to it.
00:48:16.640
When he said, I could get up here, I could cure the worst diseases, I could do the greatest feats, and they would not stand up and applaud.
00:48:23.580
And at that point, they said, well, now we're really not going to stand up and applaud.
00:48:27.340
So, you know, just to use the most stirring example, in a night of amazing moments, the one that stole the show was that 13-year-old boy who's been fighting brain cancer.
00:48:41.260
You know, he always wanted to be a cop, and he's now made a member of the U.S. Secret Service.
00:48:45.920
And you just think, man, if you can't agree in this country that that is a good thing, we have nothing in common.
00:48:57.900
Many of them would not even applaud a little kid fighting cancer.
00:49:07.360
And, you know, yeah, you can say it was too long, Trump thinks, to do that.
00:49:10.800
Guys, according to AI, which knows everything, the record belongs to Bill Clinton.
00:49:28.480
But I've never, I don't think anyone has ever seen a president go in there as pugilistically as he did
00:49:33.740
and really take the Republicans, the Democrats, head-on like that.
00:49:38.360
And the Democrats, who came to start trouble, were bullied into silence, beaten into silence
00:49:45.420
by this one man who has just taken everything from them.
00:49:49.860
You know, false accusations, impeachments, an assassination attempt, you know, convictions
00:49:55.480
for felonies that don't even exist, that no one can name.
00:49:58.440
And he has beaten them every time, and he did it again.
00:50:02.000
And I just can't help thinking that, look, in the end, the proof is in the pudding.
00:50:10.840
He's going to have to resolve the debt and all those things and build our military back
00:50:14.160
because we're in big trouble with our military as China's military soars.
00:50:18.120
But in terms of a promise, in terms of looking at a president and thinking, yeah, that guy
00:50:26.840
He's an extraordinary person in an extraordinary moment.
00:50:29.200
And, you know, he has this way of blowing away all the kind of picayune criticisms that
00:50:38.580
you can throw at him because it's been so long since anybody stood up and said, this
00:50:45.680
is a great country, and I will bring it to another level of greatness.
00:50:50.160
Who has said that besides Reagan, since Reagan?
00:50:52.680
Who has said, this is a wonderful, wonderful country, which it is, and I will make it in
00:50:57.300
and I will stand up into that tradition and move it to the next step.
00:51:06.100
But I can't help thinking that after the press fumes and screams and roars and shakes
00:51:10.480
their fist, the American people are just going to, you know, pushes his popularity up to
00:51:16.880
They always say after Trump's speech is, it was dark.
00:51:19.980
And the reality is, there was nothing dark about this speech.
00:51:27.200
And this, I think, really off-footed the Democrats.
00:51:30.020
Trump was having so much fun, and it was infectious, and the audience was having fun, and they did
00:51:37.960
So I can't name even a tenth of the examples, but when Trump goes out there, he says, we killed
00:51:46.780
The Democrats, not only do they not stand, they don't applaud.
00:51:49.580
So the Democrats formally come out in favor of the top terrorists in Afghanistan.
00:51:53.620
When Trump says, we're taking down the cartels, the Democrats don't applaud.
00:52:01.460
When Trump announces that he brought an American citizen home from a Russian prison, they can't
00:52:10.340
We've got to support the police, and they booed.
00:52:13.800
That moment when you could say, maybe one of the stupidest things any political party
00:52:22.160
That moment of hysteria and dizziness and vertigo has gone.
00:52:27.960
And now we know, we remember the obvious thing.
00:52:30.820
We need police because they're bad guys, and we need good guys to stop the bad guys.
00:52:49.560
And what has happened is that force field of protection that was given to them by our
00:52:54.740
rotten, corrupt, left-wing establishment press has been destroyed by people like us.
00:53:01.520
You know, and by Meghan, and by Joe Rogan, and by all those people, this new media has
00:53:10.000
But they do not have the power to lie without being exposed in real time, thanks to Elon Musk
00:53:16.320
to some degree on X, you know, that they can be exposed, and people see through them.
00:53:23.960
Should we talk about Al Green getting thrown out?
00:53:27.200
Yeah, I was going to say, I always liked Al Green.
00:53:29.520
You know, when he stood up there right at the beginning, I just thought, wow, this
00:53:33.640
is, he's a ridiculous person, but really, he was just, by degree, a little bit more extreme
00:53:43.160
And I thought, from the moment they started doing that, I said, this is a, it's inappropriate,
00:53:48.680
it's disreputable, but it's just a bad political choice.
00:53:52.540
I also think it was a bad choice of, of the people who were producing the actual video
00:53:59.040
broadcast of the speech, not to let us hear what he was saying.
00:54:02.780
Because he went to all that trouble, it was so disruptive, it shut down the speech, all
00:54:06.320
these things happened, and none of us know what on earth, I mean, he had a cane, I think
00:54:10.080
you made the point that it was like from the 1800s.
00:54:12.300
The caning of Sumner or something, yeah, yeah, right.
00:54:16.100
But you could tell, obviously, that Speaker Johnson was already prepared for this.
00:54:22.320
He had all of the procedural order in front of him so that he'd be able to react because
00:54:28.020
the Democrats were forecasting that they were going to cause this kind of trouble for the
00:54:33.420
And Al Green, I think, has already introduced articles of impeachment against Trump, and
00:54:37.260
he's tried to impeach him like 150 times already.
00:54:39.480
So he's a slightly more extreme version of the Democrats.
00:54:43.580
But all the heckling tonight, I just thought, you know, it was going to be a bad night for
00:54:48.940
the Democrats because they lost the Electoral College by a lot, they lost the popular vote
00:54:53.360
significantly, and for the first time in 20 years.
00:54:57.180
And if they just sort of were even slightly normal, they might have gotten through it and
00:55:04.420
But I don't think the median American or even the center-left American watching that display
00:55:12.380
And truly, if they had just treated it like any 1990s State of the Union address, they
00:55:18.100
would have come out far ahead of what they would have.
00:55:19.360
Yeah, they could have walked out and just said, what a divisive speech.
00:55:22.160
You know, he could have brought the country together and he didn't.
00:55:24.300
It would have been ineffective, but it would have been a lot more effective than this.
00:55:27.940
And because he knew it was coming, he brought that force of personality.
00:55:32.640
You know, he's just, he's like those old sheriffs in the movies who go out and stand up against
00:55:36.700
a lynch mob and just the force of their personality makes everybody kind of ashamed and
00:55:40.620
By the end of it, they weren't saying anything.
00:55:50.800
They're stuck with this racial garbage that people, you know, I think people on both sides
00:55:55.640
of the racial divide, if it still is a divide, I think they're sick of it.
00:56:02.180
It is racism embedded in government like it hasn't been since the end of the Jim Crow laws.
00:56:08.620
And I think that that that fog that people were in.
00:56:11.740
I mean, this is the thing that bothered me most about the Biden administration is I would
00:56:15.300
talk to normal, everyday people who were not particularly political.
00:56:19.440
And you would say, you know, sexually mutilating a child is a Nazi-like atrocity.
00:56:25.800
It's not like saying, oh, Donald Trump is Hitler.
00:56:30.660
And they would kind of just gloss, you know, kind of go into this fugue state because we
00:56:35.280
were all in this bad dream that this was the way it was going to be, that this was normal,
00:56:39.140
that there was something right about this or defensible about it.
00:56:43.540
And he just took advantage of that and slammed them.
00:56:51.040
And the fact that he was protected by the press and Jake Zapper is writing a book, if I did
00:56:56.280
it, you know, it's like, yeah, no, I mean, they think we're going to forget, but we don't
00:57:02.160
have to forget anymore because this new media is here to remind us and to show us and bring
00:57:06.800
I think there was that look on some of the Democrat members faces tonight, which was
00:57:11.580
and not all of them, but some of them where they thought, you know, yikes, maybe just maybe
00:57:19.940
Like, you know, because Donald Trump woke up today and he chose violence.
00:57:27.920
He said, you know, I've paid a lot and I nearly lost my life very nearly on one occasion
00:57:35.220
I've given up a lot for this job and you people, you tried to throw me in prison four
00:57:47.940
Guess how did he even ask the question of the members?
00:57:52.840
You know, I mean, just a political vindication, the likes of which we have never seen in this
00:57:59.900
That line where he said, you know, I could do anything and you wouldn't stand up.
00:58:03.200
It actually kind of cut their legs off because because he started by saying, look, you know,
00:58:12.020
And so it just kind of took the legitimacy away from them.
00:58:16.240
And I did enjoy seeing Walsh and Shapiro in the in the gallery.
00:58:20.660
Do we have any video of Ben and Matt at the event?
00:58:26.640
Oh, I believe we may have the Democrat response.
00:58:32.360
I also signed an executive order to ban men from playing in women's sports.
00:58:59.860
You can find that sad sense of patriotism here in Wyandotte, Michigan, where I'm speaking
00:59:06.300
It's a working class town just south of Detroit.
00:59:08.900
President Trump and I both won here in November.
00:59:11.540
Well, the Democrats don't have anything to say.
00:59:17.540
Places where people believe that if you work hard and play by the rules, you should do
00:59:31.240
Because we had shared values that were bigger than any one party.
00:59:37.120
We just went through another fraught election season.
00:59:40.940
Americans made it clear that prices are too high and that the government needs to be more
00:59:48.940
And we don't want gangsters and we don't want you castrating little kids.
00:59:53.100
And we can make that change without forgetting who we are as a country and as a democracy.
01:00:01.240
Because whether you're from Wyandotte or Wichita, most Americans share three core beliefs.
01:00:06.800
That the middle class is the engine of our country.
01:00:09.780
That strong national security protects us from harm.
01:00:13.420
And that our democracy, no matter how messy, is unparalleled and worth fighting for.
01:00:24.120
The revolutionary idea that you can work at an auto plant and afford the power of a million.
01:00:32.980
Because I'm pretty sure it was like Italy in the high middle class.
01:00:37.620
The price of things we spend the most money on.
01:00:42.100
We need to make more things in America with good-paying union jobs and bring our supply chains back home from places like China.
01:00:53.480
But I don't, I actually don't understand how she is juxtaposing the Democrat platform from Trump's administration right now.
01:01:01.100
Look, the president talked a big game on the economy.
01:01:03.620
But it's always important to read the fine print.
01:01:06.880
So, do his plans actually help Americans get ahead?
01:01:13.080
President Trump is trying to deliver an unprecedented giveaway to his billionaire friends.
01:01:18.160
He's on the hunt to find trillions of dollars to pass along to the wealthiest in America.
01:01:23.180
And to do that, he's going to make you pay in every part of your life.
01:01:28.540
Grocery and home prices are going up, not down.
01:01:31.440
And he hasn't laid out a credible plan to deal with either of those.
01:01:35.460
His tariffs on allies like Canada will raise prices on energy, lumber, and cars.
01:01:40.720
And start a trade war that will hurt manufacturing and farmers.
01:01:43.720
Your premiums and prescriptions will cost more because the math on his proposals doesn't work without going after your health care.
01:01:53.220
Meanwhile, for those keeping score, the national debt is going up, not down.
01:01:57.780
And if he's not careful, he could walk us right into a recession.
01:02:04.020
In order to pay for his plan, he could very well come after your retirement.
01:02:10.060
Come on, they were talking about taking your savings, these guys.
01:02:13.480
The president claims he won't, but Elon Musk just called Social Security the biggest Ponzi scheme of all time.
01:02:23.120
Is there anyone in America who is comfortable with him and his gang of 20-year-olds using their own computer servers to poke through your tax returns, your health information, and your bank accounts?
01:02:33.620
No oversight, no protections against cyber attacks.
01:02:34.800
They're actually using the U.S. Digital Service, which is a branch of the federal government.
01:02:37.820
No card rails on what they do with your private data.
01:02:41.600
And 20-year-olds are the only people who know how to do this.
01:02:43.720
If it's my private data, why does the government have it?
01:02:45.840
Yeah, and all those people, what are they, like 100,000 people in the Treasury Department looking at you?
01:02:51.200
The mindless firing of people who work to protect our nuclear weapons, keep our planes from crashing, and conduct the research that finds the truth of the answer...
01:02:57.520
This is, by the way, what I mean by the press, right?
01:02:59.320
In the old days, the press would have said all this was true.
01:03:02.740
No CEO in America could do that without being similiarly fired.
01:03:05.200
Yeah, people would have actually, you know, thought that maybe it was true.
01:03:21.840
Democrats and Republicans should all be for that.
01:03:25.020
But securing the border without actually fixing our broken immigration system is dealing with the symptom and not the disease.
01:03:34.660
We need a functional system keyed to the needs of our economy.
01:03:41.200
So I look forward to the president's plan on that.
01:03:49.340
Migration, cyber threats, AI, environmental destruction, terrorism.
01:03:53.660
Until we can solve it all, we can't solve any of it.
01:04:01.980
President Trump loves to say peace through strength.
01:04:04.260
That's actually a line he stole from Ronald Reagan.
01:04:07.680
But let me tell you, after the spectacle that just took place in the Oval Office last week, Reagan must be rolling in his grave.
01:04:17.700
They should have edited this part of the speech.
01:04:20.800
The events in the Oval Office with Zelensky were very difficult to watch.
01:04:26.140
But in order to have a judgment about them, now you have to ignore the fact that he got the deal.
01:04:32.880
Well, Zelensky literally today sent him a letter and said, yeah, all right.
01:04:37.660
As we knew he would when we were watching, because he had no choice.
01:04:40.500
I swear, the Democrats told him he could go in there and the American people.
01:04:57.040
Now I'm sorry we elected him, because he would have lost us the Cold War.
01:04:59.400
He doesn't believe we're an exceptional nation.
01:05:12.180
And I would rather have American leadership over Chinese or Russian leadership any day of the week.
01:05:18.860
Because for generations, America has offered something better.
01:05:24.540
But our democracy, our very system of government, has been the aspiration of the world.
01:05:32.320
It's at risk when the president decides you can pick and choose what rules you want to follow,
01:05:37.040
when he ignores court orders and the Constitution itself,
01:05:40.380
or when elected leaders stand by and just let it happen.
01:05:44.220
But it's also at risk when the president pits Americans against each other,
01:05:49.560
when he demonizes those who are different and tells certain people they shouldn't be included.
01:05:56.560
Because America is not just a patch of land between two oceans.
01:06:02.040
Generations have fought and died to secure the fundamental rights that define us.
01:06:06.680
Those rights and the fight for them make us who we are.
01:06:08.520
This woman has secured her career if there's an opening of the view.
01:06:11.240
We're a nation of strivers, risk-takers, innovators.
01:06:25.060
I've seen what life is like when a government is rigged.
01:06:28.340
You can't open a business without paying off a corrupt official.
01:06:31.160
You can't criticize the guys in charge without getting a knock at the door in the middle of the room.
01:06:39.540
The kind of countries that have ballot drop boxes.
01:06:44.580
Widespread mail-in ballots contrary to the state constitution.
01:06:46.780
You don't even need your identification to vote.
01:06:49.260
I know a lot of you have been asking that question.
01:06:56.600
All right, I'm officially saying let's tune out.
01:07:00.940
As soon as she said we can't tune out, I'm out.
01:07:04.540
However, I will say, I have truly, I'm not, this is not a joke.
01:07:12.340
I think this is maybe one of the best responses that I've ever seen.
01:07:15.080
Consider this indictment of the Democrat Party.
01:07:17.880
They had to find someone who was reasonably normal.
01:07:26.740
And anyone that we might have even seen on TV one time.
01:07:30.760
And they came up with the dog catcher from Michigan or whatever.
01:07:36.520
Her name, according to the control booth, is Alyssa Slotkin.
01:07:41.800
She ran, you know, she's actually, she is a member of the Senate.
01:07:51.640
She, because, also, that was a close race, and that was very frustrating, this cycle.
01:07:55.600
But, you know, it is funny, because, like, this woman, so she's relatively new.
01:08:00.000
That is also why people don't, like, recognize her.
01:08:06.120
You know, they did it with Katie Britt last year for the Republicans.
01:08:18.000
It's so moderate, in fact, that it is actually difficult to distinguish most of what she
01:08:25.000
She's actually attacking the Democrats' policies and pretending they're the Republicans' policies.
01:08:33.320
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So are we cutting back to the trash collector from Michigan?
01:10:43.240
I'm not joking, I have a monitor here, and I can see the audience numbers beginning to plummet.
01:10:57.420
Difficult to get out of the House chamber, but they are.
01:11:01.560
We do think there's some chance that they will make it back to Speaker Johnson's office.
01:11:07.020
Last year, I was up there, I was actually sitting right behind Tennessee Governor Bill Lee.
01:11:12.300
And Bill Lee, if you're a governor, it turns out you get to keep your cell phone during the State of the Union.
01:11:17.900
And you get a heads up from Secret Service before the president's about to wrap so you can get out of there before they lock you down.
01:11:26.260
So they lock you down in the House chamber, and you just kind of sit there and schmooze with the people to your right and left.
01:11:33.420
But what's a little weird, not if you're sitting, as Ben and Matt were, with Riley in the Speaker's gallery, but when you're sitting just with the hoi polloi, with the regular, you know, members' guests, you're often sitting next to Democrats.
01:11:47.080
So, you know, some people who might be fuming about the speech or, you know, it's a little bit awkward.
01:11:53.180
And, you know, it takes something like half an hour to get out of there.
01:11:55.440
Now, happily, because, you know, now the Republicans are back in charge in D.C., I think Ben and Matt will be able to broadcast from the Capitol.
01:12:04.100
So it won't take them five hours to get out of there, and we might be able to hear what it was like in the room.
01:12:08.980
But of all the State of the Unions that I've watched, one in person, all of the rest of them on television, I think that was the best one I've ever seen.
01:12:18.360
Yeah, I have to say, it was a bit rambling in places, as Trump speeches can sometimes be, and went longer than it needed to, as Trump speeches almost always do.
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He's sort of like the modern Martin Scorsese of speech makers.
01:12:34.960
You're like, somewhere in there, there was a perfectly good 90-minute...
01:12:38.440
The greatest master of this, of our generation.
01:12:41.640
However, it was the most fun State of the Union address I've ever seen.
01:12:46.840
He was there, it was triumphant, and you said it before, he was enjoying himself.
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I mean, what a mic drop moment to be able to say, oh yeah, and Zelensky just called and wants me to make a peace deal with Russia.
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One week ago, people were essentially saying the world order was over.
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There's going to be a unified European army, and now he's just getting exactly what he wants.
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And you know, when he said to Zelensky, you don't have the cards, that was true.
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You know, I mean, you knew that was true when he was saying it.
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And it really, nobody really asked, like, what was Zelensky thinking?
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You know, even if, you know, there was this idea that it had been some kind of setup that they were waiting to line and wait for him.
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Where Zelensky spent 40 minutes kind of sighing and rolling his eyes and shaking his head and needling him.
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And Trump remained very gracious to him until that moment when Zelensky said, you are going to feel this.
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And I was kind of like, ooh, you know, that was a mistake.
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One is that Zelensky wanted there to be a tense moment to spur Europe to greater aid because he kind of knew that Trump wanted a peace deal.
01:14:02.780
And if Trump negotiates a peace deal with Putin, then that's going to involve concessions from Ukraine.
01:14:08.780
The other theory that was going around some of the press was that Zelensky was talking to some of his friends from the past Democrat administrations,
01:14:16.820
many of whom have been integral in American policy in Ukraine going back to 2014 even,
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and that maybe they encouraged him not to play nice with Trump.
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And so then I have this image afterward of, you know, Zelensky running up to Victoria Nuland like,
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And so clearly within 48 hours or something, he's back on the horn to the White House and it looks like they have a deal.
01:14:44.520
And, you know, the thing is, no matter if Biden had negotiated this deal, if that woman who ran for, I can't remember her name,
01:14:55.280
But if she had negotiated this deal, same thing would have happened.
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Putin would have gotten some of the stuff that he'd already stomped on, and they just would have had to settle for that.
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There was never going to be, you know, the Ukrainians were never marching on Moscow.
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I find it distasteful that some on the American right now are playing the Putin is the great defender of Christendom.
01:15:23.020
He has nuclear missiles pointed at us right now.
01:15:29.620
The other, I know we're not allowed to have any historical nuance or anything in here, but some of the territories that we're talking about, most notably Crimea, have been contested for millennia, many centuries at this point,
01:15:42.940
and have historically been part of Russia and have been considered very important to Russia.
01:15:47.240
And so, like, I know Americans decide they're going to become experts on every issue overnight, but this is a complex issue.
01:15:54.380
And that was kind of Trump's point in the Oval Office is, you know, look, we're going to have to come to a deal here.
01:16:00.580
Unless you want to be like the Democrats and just have it be a meat grinder forever with no end in sight.
01:16:04.720
But if you are going to have a deal, then you need to figure out what these strategic objectives are and the interests and where is it there?
01:16:13.220
It's also different in kind than any war that we've seen in our lifetime.
01:16:18.600
I'm not making an age joke, but you actually have seen things like this.
01:16:23.640
This is a war where the casualties are in the seven figures.
01:16:31.440
You know, America lost something like 5,000 troops in the totality of the war on terror.
01:16:39.160
You're talking about hundreds of thousands of Ukrainians and Russians have died in the last three years in this war.
01:16:46.060
When we say meat grinder, we're not being rhetorical.
01:16:49.500
It's a World War I kind of stalemate that they're just killing each other.
01:16:53.540
And the other thing about it is, you know, you don't have to make excuses for Putin or say that it's a good thing that he invaded.
01:17:00.660
To understand that in these situations, power matters.
01:17:11.080
Because the Putin apologists make of him this larger-than-life figure and they want to say, well, America couldn't beat Putin.
01:17:20.260
Europe could beat Putin if they set their mind to it.
01:17:22.320
But Europe and America would destroy Putin at risk of nuclear war.
01:17:32.740
And just on a, I don't think this is really cynical, but on a realistic level, China is the threat to America.
01:17:46.260
It is better for Putin to be friends with us who will not try to devour him than friends with China who will devour him last.
01:17:53.520
He knows when he's not looking at Xi and thinking he's a great guy.
01:17:56.100
I look into his eyes and see his soul and he's going to be good to me.
01:17:59.400
He knows that the price of an alliance with China is Russia ultimately and he won't have to pay that price to us.
01:18:06.080
And so if we separate them and we have to make a little bit nice to him, you know, it's distasteful.
01:18:11.960
But it may just be necessary because we have to be ready for China.
01:18:15.160
And that's the one thing I think is in Trump's mind in a way that it's not in the minds of our intelligence community.
01:18:23.000
Maybe because the head of our intelligence is named Heinz Eichel.
01:18:27.900
The one thing that I found disappointing in the foreign policy part of the president's speech is that he didn't talk about the new Trumpistan colony in what was formerly the Gaza Strip.
01:18:47.200
You know, part of that, when that announcement came out, everyone lost their minds, as is often the case when President Trump makes big declarations.
01:18:54.560
And some people still haven't learned it 10 years into this thing.
01:18:58.180
But, you know, when Trump throws something out there, he is often negotiating or speaking past the sale to you.
01:19:05.880
And so, in this case, why didn't he bring it up?
01:19:09.660
Because he, well, just look at the news today of the Arab states coming in and saying, no, no, no, hold on.
01:19:17.500
And maybe that sort of thing is what Trump was actually after.
01:19:20.860
And he was also after putting paid to the two-state solution, which is the dumbest idea that people have clung to for decades.
01:19:28.960
You know, it's like one state called Israel, another state that wants to kill Israel.
01:19:32.660
And I think he just avoided that exactly for what you said.
01:19:37.960
He had negotiated them into a position, which we said at the beginning, where he would be able to say to them, okay, what's your idea?
01:19:46.840
Because they were in sort of a stalemate of these two notions, and no one was moving.
01:19:51.060
And then Trump just came in and dropped this wild idea.
01:19:55.260
And everyone sort of just stopped and said, wait, what?
01:20:03.960
I mean, I was a little surprised he didn't mention it, only because, as we knew they would, Hamas is violating, you know, not going forward with the ceasefire and has not returned all the hostages.
01:20:14.220
And I assume Israel is going to go back in there and kick some ass.
01:20:17.540
And I think that he probably didn't want to seem to have incited it.
01:20:24.580
And it is, at this point, it's a fait accompli.
01:20:27.300
Of course, Israel is going back into the Gaza Strip.
01:20:29.200
I thought it was, you know, it's funny, at the inaugural ball that we were at, they interviewed me on the red carpet and they asked me what I thought of the deal.
01:20:37.080
And I said, well, the deal is terrible, but we know that Hamas is going to break it and we know that Trump is going to support them when they go back in.
01:20:42.480
That was kind of the setup of the deal, that it was always going to come to this, you know.
01:20:46.040
But he got the win that he needed, you know, so he could, he didn't stand in the way of a ceasefire, which would have been bad for him.
01:20:56.580
Also, in terms of foreign policy, he presented tariffs in a way that was digestible and common sense to people.
01:21:03.380
First of all, I mean, I've been advocating throughout the campaign that really the key phrase here has got to be common sense.
01:21:10.340
That's why, I mean, and I'm not the first to notice it.
01:21:12.820
It goes back to Antonio Gramsci and many other political thinkers.
01:21:18.020
And so when we're talking about free trade or tariff theory or these kind of complex economic concepts,
01:21:25.060
it's a little difficult for any, even someone who's studied economics to really grasp what he's talking about.
01:21:30.740
And so when he says, look, you guys charge us a lot of money for our products,
01:21:35.900
but you expect us not to charge you a lot of money when you bring your products into our market,
01:21:41.020
which is much more valuable, that's not going to happen.
01:21:45.580
And if we get into a trade war, I promise you we're going to win.
01:21:49.060
That is really clear, common sense thinking that doesn't require a degree in economics.
01:21:53.360
I have to say, I am maybe the only person in America who does not know what the result of the tariffs will be
01:21:58.080
and will openly admit it, but that did make sense to me.
01:22:01.780
I thought it was a sensible enough rhetorical argument for something that I think is somewhat nonsensical in practice.
01:22:10.640
I think using tariffs as a form of leverage to get us better trade deals than we might otherwise have,
01:22:15.900
which we've seen President Trump do in the past, is a perfectly good thing to do.
01:22:19.740
But free trade has been very good for America, and the dollar being the standard currency, basically, of all global trade.
01:22:28.320
It is very, very good for us, and that's a thing that you do not want to lose and that you put at risk with this tariff.
01:22:34.300
But globalist trade has not been so good for us.
01:22:37.880
Yeah, the idea that the center of the country is going to be gutted of jobs, but your iPhone is going to cost less because it's made by slave labor,
01:22:48.220
Remember, this is why his first inaugural speech was called Dark, because he talked about American carnage.
01:22:52.920
I was out there during the Biden administration and all the boarded shops and all the people out of work and all the closed factories.
01:23:01.960
So if he can bring America back to the place where we support American goods and still can have free trade,
01:23:08.520
I mean, that would be better than the globalist trade that we were dealing with.
01:23:11.720
Well, I think that if we're going to talk about things that none of us understand,
01:23:14.500
we should bring someone on who doesn't understand some of them, and that is Matt Walsh.
01:23:23.520
I mean, it was pretty outstanding from where we were sitting.
01:23:26.260
I mean, right now we're just wondering why we're here, because, I mean, well, we're exhausted.
01:23:32.000
And my annoyance is you sent the two most easily annoyed people in America to this.
01:23:39.220
And now you're bringing us back, and it's 11.35 at night.
01:23:44.840
I have not clapped that much, like, in total in my entire life as I did in the room.
01:23:54.080
I will say that I thought it was a great speech.
01:23:57.600
But for me, unfortunately, being in the room, even though it was a really good speech,
01:24:03.340
the big takeaway is just the Democrats, and I'm sure you guys have covered it.
01:24:07.660
But the performance by the Democrats, I thought, was just disgraceful and ridiculous.
01:24:13.760
And being in the room, I mean, I don't know how much you pick up on camera.
01:24:17.040
I'm sure the one guy standing up and refusing to leave, that certainly made it in.
01:24:27.360
You know, I had a woman who was right in front of me down below who was, like, taking angry
01:24:30.800
selfies of herself and texting them to her friend.
01:24:37.100
Matt, did you photobomb any of the selfies for this Democrat woman's friend?
01:24:47.180
But to me, the thing that kind of tells you everything you need to know is that the Democrats
01:25:02.900
They didn't clap protecting Americans from crime, killing terrorists and all of that.
01:25:07.780
The only thing they clapped for, the only thing that they clapped for was Ukraine.
01:25:12.320
That was the one single applause line from the Democrats.
01:25:15.680
And I think that that sort of tells you everything you need to know about the Democrat Party,
01:25:22.320
There was one point when Trump thanked them for voting for Marco Rubio for Secretary of
01:25:30.440
Like, you could see Bernie Sanders maybe 15, 20 minutes before the end.
01:25:34.700
You can see a bunch of the Democratic Congress people starting to file out kind of slowly
01:25:41.360
You know, President Trump's energy was really good.
01:25:52.620
And I got to tell you, the Democrats felt dead.
01:25:55.260
I mean, it felt like the air had been sucked out of their side of the room, not just because
01:25:57.640
they were depressed because they lost, but also because there's just no juice to the
01:26:01.220
It feels as though they have kind of lost their points of opposition.
01:26:05.020
And so they're kind of sitting there in weirdly disparate fashion with signs that read different
01:26:12.400
And we're supposed to take away from that that they're unified.
01:26:15.280
The only points of unity they seem to be able to find in opposition to President Trump
01:26:18.400
were at one point they tried to start a chant on January 6th, which is so played out
01:26:23.080
And then again, when they applauded Ukraine, which again, was less about their love of
01:26:28.000
Ukraine and much more about their belief that President Trump is a cast paw of Vladimir
01:26:32.060
So as far as the speech itself, I think that it was very clear that President Trump was
01:26:37.000
focusing in on two really, really big themes, aside from the tariffs, which I heard you guys
01:26:43.120
The two big themes that he kept coming back to, and he actually did come back to them
01:26:46.520
He actually would go away from them and then come back to them again.
01:26:50.820
And I think that that was actually a really smart strategy because it is the greatest
01:26:58.980
The stats that he was citing are extraordinary.
01:27:01.200
And when President Trump brought that up and talked repeatedly about the damage that criminal
01:27:05.300
illegal immigrants have done in the country, and he kept going back to that, that is a
01:27:12.020
And then the other big issue was, of course, one that is all near and dear to our hearts.
01:27:15.080
I mean, obviously, we all care about illegal immigration, but the one that maybe the Daily
01:27:17.640
Wire has taken the lead on as a company more than any other company in America
01:27:27.100
And we had the pleasure, Matt and I, of sitting next to Riley Gaines, who, of course, has also
01:27:30.180
been a big sort of character in pushing forward the notion that traditional sex actually is
01:27:36.200
the metric for how we measure human beings in terms of, for example, sports.
01:27:40.520
And the energy in the room for those two issues was extremely high.
01:27:44.320
He gave what I thought was properly short-triff to foreign policy, actually, because he is a
01:27:49.460
He said, we're going to strengthen the military.
01:27:53.040
We're going to build Golden Dome, which is a take on Iron Dome, even though Iron Dome,
01:27:57.100
for the record, is actually a system for shooting down short-range rockets.
01:28:00.200
And Golden Dome would be presumably a large missile defense system designed for shooting
01:28:03.540
down, say, supersonic, sort of low-altitude Chinese missiles.
01:28:12.540
But it was all domestically focused, and I think that's totally appropriate for a president
01:28:18.540
And I know you guys were talking about the tariffs.
01:28:20.640
It's interesting to see how he's playing the tariffs, and it'll be interesting to see
01:28:23.880
The big question going forward, I think, for both the economy and for President Trump
01:28:26.600
is whether the key word in the phrase reciprocal tariff is reciprocal or tariff.
01:28:32.360
So if the key word there is reciprocal, I think that what he's going to do is what, Jeremy,
01:28:36.920
you were talking about, leverage other countries to lower their own tariffs in order so that
01:28:40.860
we can get our tariffs lower, and then more free trade for everyone, yay, hooray.
01:28:44.900
If the key word there is tariff and not reciprocal, meaning what he actually just likes are the
01:28:49.100
tariffs, economic theory and history tell that that is a dicey proposition.
01:28:55.020
And you can see the effects on the stock market almost immediately, right?
01:28:58.740
I mean, you've seen it over the course of the last couple of days alone when Dow Jones
01:29:02.840
So, again, that is a dicey game that he's playing right there if he's fighting inflation.
01:29:08.520
Even large-scale tariffs tend not to lower inflation.
01:29:11.700
They tend to increase, you know, sort of prices of goods and services because you're limiting
01:29:14.680
supply while leaving demand exactly the same, which obviously increases prices.
01:29:19.560
And then the question is just going to be whether it is a leverage play or whether it
01:29:22.520
is a principal play that he sort of likes tariffs and has a vision of the world in which everyone
01:29:26.240
reshores to the United States and we export but we don't import, which, you know, again,
01:29:31.460
I think that is likely to result in some pretty dire economic side effects.
01:29:35.000
Well, this is to me the most interesting question because the guy is a good poker player and
01:29:41.920
You know, on the one hand, there are people, though I know it's unfashionable in our day
01:29:46.300
and age, but there are people who make a serious, principled economic argument for tariffs.
01:29:51.740
And there's a long history of tariffs in the Republican Party.
01:29:53.960
Going back to Abraham Lincoln, who said, give me a tariff, I'll give you the greatest country
01:29:57.180
Now, that obviously fell out of favor in the middle to the latter part of the 20th century.
01:30:00.180
But there is a world in which, and Trump has been, I think, advancing this view, that
01:30:05.480
he really believes as a matter of principle in tariffs, and many of his economic advisors
01:30:14.240
He has promoted free trade, global free trade, for, you know, many years of his career.
01:30:19.480
And so there is also a view that he's kind of bluffing.
01:30:24.160
But the thing is, if he's bluffing, he's doing so in an extraordinarily persuasive way, which
01:30:30.840
is his great strength on the global stage, is his unpredictability.
01:30:35.160
So if you are an adversary of the United States, or a trading partner of the United States that's
01:30:39.380
kind of maybe ripping us off a little bit, and you're trying to read Trump right now,
01:30:43.640
at least 10 to 20% of you has to think, the guy might just love tariffs, and I better play
01:30:52.340
Yeah, and it is, it does, I mean, I don't know, I'm a simple man.
01:30:55.560
When you tell me that they're putting a 275% tariff on milk going out, but we can't put
01:31:00.500
anything on, you know, and I think, well, why not?
01:31:04.120
It's all part of Trump's, we're not your daddy strategy, you know?
01:31:06.880
Like, we are not here to just support the world.
01:31:09.880
And we have been treated like that, especially by Europe.
01:31:12.120
But we have been treated like that by the country.
01:31:13.900
We're supposed to show up, but they don't have to show up for us.
01:31:16.660
And Trump's, you know, it may be garish, it may be a little boorish to say, what's in
01:31:24.540
I mean, I think what's in it for us is actually a pretty good pitch.
01:31:29.180
I think the thing that we do have to remember, however, is that we are also, that there is
01:31:33.780
something in it for us, which is namely that our gigantic national debt is actually funded
01:31:41.120
I mean, so it turns out that actually there are two sides to the story.
01:31:44.220
It's not just the United States funding everybody else.
01:31:45.820
The reality is that everybody else is also funding us by holding the dollar as the global
01:31:49.000
reserve currency and then holding bonds that they can easily transfer into dollars.
01:31:52.400
So again, economics is a bit of a sensitive game.
01:31:55.440
And, you know, the one thing, and this is the thing that I really fear for President Trump's
01:32:00.100
administration, the one thing that can send things south, because the Democrats are so
01:32:08.280
When it comes to the trans issue, they've completely lost it.
01:32:11.420
When it comes to illegal immigration, they've completely lost it.
01:32:14.720
The one thing that could really hurt Trump is an economic downturn.
01:32:20.200
President Trump more than most because he's seen as a pro correctly as a pro business president.
01:32:24.480
And so anything that can be done to avoid an economic downturn is the thing that he really
01:32:28.480
The good news about Trump, I think, is that even if he loves tariffs, like adores them,
01:32:32.400
President Trump also, even more than that, likes good headlines and does not like bad headlines.
01:32:36.780
And so if the economy starts to go south, this is one area where President Trump will stick
01:32:41.020
Though, again, even on that point, Trump seems to, in recent weeks and even in that speech
01:32:46.480
tonight, be preparing the American people for some potential short-term economic challenge.
01:32:52.600
He says, look, it's going to be a little tough in the short term.
01:32:55.620
But so, again, I don't exactly know how to read it because that might just be him bluffing
01:33:02.820
really well to say, no, I am really serious about you because I understand the implications.
01:33:11.100
I don't think that Donald Trump is fundamentally ideological.
01:33:17.640
And so I think that one of the reasons that he is so unpredictable is because everyone assumes
01:33:26.620
When, in fact, it may just be as simple as the thing's unfair.
01:33:31.400
And if somebody comes back to me and there's a better deal to be made in the future where
01:33:35.560
I take the tariffs off because something good's happening, then that'll be the thing that
01:33:39.740
I don't know that he's, I don't know that Trump is sophisticated.
01:33:45.340
I'm actually saying it kind of as a good thing.
01:33:47.100
Like, I just don't think that he is, I don't think that he is that.
01:33:50.820
I think he has this way of looking at things in a general way that seems unsophisticated,
01:33:57.640
He can't have won as often as he's won and be unsophisticated.
01:34:04.040
He thinks in a gestalt style that everybody calls gut politics, but it's really a way of
01:34:10.760
And sometimes, I do believe that sometimes even he hasn't got his whole strategy worked
01:34:15.220
Look, there are going to be some bad headlines.
01:34:16.860
You cannot bring down inflation without increasing unemployment.
01:34:21.240
And I notice nobody's talking about unemployment because it always goes up when inflation goes down.
01:34:27.640
So they're waiting, lying in wait so that when it goes up, they can hit him with it.
01:34:32.620
Happened to Reagan when he brought down inflation.
01:34:35.020
The unemployment went up and it cost him his majorities in the legislature.
01:34:39.760
But still, I do think he has an idea of what he's doing.
01:34:45.440
I think he makes a deal and takes an extreme position knowing that's not where he's going to end.
01:34:58.240
I certainly don't think that it's a bluff because, I mean, I agree with Drew that I think Trump
01:35:01.680
thinks in a, his great appeal is that he thinks in a very simple way, which is not to say
01:35:08.300
I consider myself to be a simple guy in a lot of ways, which is just, you look at an issue
01:35:13.640
Well, why should they slap us with higher tariffs than we put on them?
01:35:19.000
It's a pretty, it's the same thing with Zelensky.
01:35:21.140
He visits the White House and it's like, hey, we gave you all of this.
01:35:26.260
And so if we're going to give you this, then we expect something in return.
01:35:29.740
It's, you know, in that case, it's kind of similar to the, you know, I say to my kids all
01:35:35.360
the time, you're in my house, you know, you're under my roof, it's my food, you're going to
01:35:43.040
I gave you javelin missiles and you're going to listen to me.
01:35:51.180
So, and I think most, most people hear that and think, yeah, well, it, it kind of makes
01:35:59.840
By the way, credit to Zelensky for recognizing that he really, really needed to put out a
01:36:05.700
I mean, seriously, like Zelensky blew that meeting on Friday in a massive, massive way.
01:36:11.080
I went through on my show, like the entire details of that meeting, like went through
01:36:14.460
all 50 minutes of that particular meeting and Zelensky really blew it.
01:36:18.840
And then today he came back and he said the thing he was supposed to say, which is we're
01:36:26.720
Or, and so tonight, instead of President Trump spending half the speech shellacking Zelensky
01:36:30.600
in Ukraine, instead, President Trump did what he does, which is he pocketed the victory.
01:36:34.780
And again, this goes, I think we're all saying very similar things here.
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I don't think that President Trump, when it comes to these policies, is sitting there
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thinking, okay, if I make, if I move my rook here, they're going to move their knight
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And then if they move their knight here, I'm going to move my bishop here, checkmate.
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The way that he thinks is much more like, I'm going to do this thing.
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And if you respond in the way that I want, then we can make a deal.
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And if you respond in a way I don't want, I'm going to hit you.
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Most policy can actually get done fairly well that way.
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I will say, I did enjoy the break with tradition that was pretty evident from the beginning
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I think this is what he meant when he said, remember, he had to put out this truth social
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in all caps, I'm going to speak plainly tonight.
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And everybody's like, I don't know what that means.
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But it's, but, you know, I think what he meant, I'm going to speak plainly.
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What he meant was, I'm just going to, if I feel like banging on the Democrats, I'm just
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When he started off, right, I mean, it was hysterically funny.
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When he started off right near the top, he said, listen, I've been doing this for five
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years, five years, five times I've come to you.
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And it cuts through the bullshit of the entire sort of evening, which is, you know, propped
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I've spoken on the program a thousand times about how much I generally hate State of the
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I will say it was kind of funny because it felt like kind of a post-State of the Union
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It was kind of like, I don't think that it was just funny, although it was certainly
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I don't think it was just plain speak and shellacking the Democrats, although it was certainly
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It was also a perfect trap that he put them in.
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Because once he said, they cannot clap for me no matter what, he took all the tools that
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I mean, this is the reason all their shenanigans basically fizzled out in the first three minutes
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because what was left once he had already established, here's how the game's going to
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When he promoted no tax on tips, a policy that the Democrats stole from him and campaigned
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Had he not made those remarks at the beginning of the speech, they would have clapped for
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By the way, I agree that Trump has a good gut and everything like that, but I do think
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That was clearly a trap, and it worked very well.
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Yeah, I don't mean that he doesn't have strategy, but it's not the same kind of strategy.
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I can't remember which one of you guys said it, but he's not talking about a chess game.
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He's more talking about a kind of, like I said, a gestalt, an atmosphere that he
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knows how to move through, and he does it really expertly, you know?
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There were a lot of things that we were chuckling at in the room, for sure.
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Yeah, I'll say that this was my first time I've been in a room for, actually in the room
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And, you know, I knew he was a really funny guy, but that's one thing you appreciate
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when you're in the room, it's just kind of the energy of it and sort of the aside
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comments and, I don't know, being in the room, you kind of...
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Yeah, at the very beginning, they're clapping for him, and he actually did the Trump dance.
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I don't know if you guys can see that on camera.
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When they were giving, like, the big ovation, I don't know if they're panning to the crowd
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or whatever, he literally stepped to the side of the podium and did the...
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At the MSG rally right before the election, I noticed it was the first time I'd seen him in person,
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I think, ever, certainly that close, but I think maybe in person, and he gets up on stage,
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Speaking of these great little moments and these great little asides, there's one that
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no one is talking about, but it killed me, which is that Trump was talking about illegal
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immigration, and he goes, and these people, you know, coming over, murderers, human traffickers,
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and then he just points to the Democrats in the room, like, these murderers, human traffickers,
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Truly the most entertaining State of the Union that I've ever seen, and, you know, I had a
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kind of sadness watching it, because Donald Trump's not a young man.
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We are in the end of whatever this is, and, you know, four years is a long time.
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But it was the first time that I felt a kind of nostalgia for Donald Trump, and I was feeling
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it while he's still president, because we will never see anything like this again.
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Well, it's going to be the last great administration of my lifetime, but it may be the last great
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administration of your lifetime, too, because they don't come along.
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Though I am hopeful for the reign of Baron Octavian Augustus Trump, and I don't know if
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it'll be exactly like this, but, you know, Augustus was actually better than Julius in
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Fellas, I know it's late in D.C., and you have shows to do tomorrow.
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Thanks for coming back after fighting your way through whatever mob there was and signing
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There's just all kinds of weirdness that you guys had to deal with, but it was a good night.
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We do have one fun thing going on, and that is that Ben is leading this crusade to get
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President Trump to consider pardoning Derek Chauvin of the federal charges that he was convicted
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It won't mean that he has to go to a state prison, but it will still be the beginning
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of correcting this horrible injustice, and we have a petition at pardonderick.com.
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We'd love for you to sign it as we're letting President Trump know that this is still an
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He's given all these great pardons already in his time as president, but there is like
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one guy who's obviously still been left on the field, and that's Derek Chauvin.
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So head over to pardonderick.com and add your name to our petition today, and we'll see
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