The Matt Walsh Show - Election Night 2024 with The Daily Wire

00:00:00.000 Hey, this is Matt Walsh, host of The Matt Walsh Show, and you're about to listen to the Daily

00:00:03.260 Wires Election Night 2024 episode. Join me, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan,

00:00:07.800 Jeremy Boring, and special guests for in-depth coverage, real-time electoral maps as results

00:00:12.700 pour in, and expert analysis you won't find anywhere else. From key battlegrounds to exclusive

00:00:17.840 insights, this is the election night coverage you won't want to miss. Welcome to the Daily

00:00:22.780 Wires 2024 Election Night coverage. I'm joined by our backstage pals, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles,

00:00:29.560 Andrew Klavan, Matt Walsh. We're going to be going through this with you in real-time,

00:00:32.920 bringing you real-time updates as polls close, as we get information. We'll bring it to you.

00:00:38.800 There'll be wild speculation, of course, largely from Andrew. There'll be comedy,

00:00:44.380 the comedy stylings of Matt Walsh, and we'll just try to survive until the election is over

00:00:52.120 sometime between now and the certification on January 6th. We'll take turns stepping out,

00:00:58.140 grabbing catnaps. It's never going to end, people. It's never going to end.

00:01:02.600 By the way, a couple of quick announcements. According to Decision Desk HQ, Trump has now

00:01:07.100 won South Carolina. I know it was a shocker. Hey, all right. Unfortunately, Kamala Harris has

00:01:11.400 won Vermont in response. I know you were worried about that one. Trump has also, according to the

00:01:15.580 Associated Press, won Indiana. Hey! Hey! And Trump won Kentucky. Let's start drinking. So basically,

00:01:21.380 49 states for Trump is the current projection right now. Well, actually, right now, let's hear from

00:01:26.660 Mary Margaret Olihan. She is at Trump HQ in West Palm Beach. Mary Margaret, good to talk to us.

00:01:32.680 Good to talk to you, actually. I mean, I'm sure you're pleased to talk to us as well. Give us a

00:01:35.500 sense of what it's like down there right now. Hey, Ben, and of course, it's an honor to talk

00:01:41.180 to you all down here in Palm Beach, where we are at Trump headquarters. You can see behind me,

00:01:45.900 there's a whole bunch of people congregating. Anybody who is anybody wants to be here tonight

00:01:50.620 and be in Trump's election night party as they prepare, hopefully, for a victory.

00:01:54.900 And we've been talking to a lot of people on the ground here, trying to get a sense of

00:01:58.100 what's going on. I can tell you the atmosphere is very hopeful, very excited. People are on edge,

00:02:04.260 but I would say in a good way. They're just, they're really amped up for tonight. So we're

00:02:07.980 going to be here, we're going to be talking to everyone and getting a sense for where this is

00:02:11.300 going. So how relaxed or nervous are they in the room? Are they concerned? Are you getting

00:02:16.520 like nerves? Or is everybody just basically opening it up? Are they ready and raring to party already?

00:02:21.020 Well, you know, these, these people are all from DC or they're from Florida. They're always ready

00:02:27.040 to party. But when we ask people, how are you feeling? When we ask people, how are you feeling?

00:02:32.840 How's it going? What are you thinking about the race? What they'll tell you is they're quote,

00:02:35.820 unquote, cautiously optimistic. I've been emailing or texting with a whole bunch of different Trump

00:02:40.680 advisors. And what they're telling me is they're feeling good, but they're still pushing people to get

00:02:44.960 out to the polls. And that's what one advisor told me not even five minutes ago. So the push is get to

00:02:50.580 the polls, get to the polls. We want every single vote. We want to make every single vote count.

00:02:54.700 That's what Trump himself was saying last night in Michigan. He was saying, we've done the work,

00:02:58.960 we've done the campaigning, we've gotten our message out. Now it's up to you guys to get to

00:03:02.240 the polls and to make America great again. So Mary, we know that you've been closely following

00:03:07.220 Trump's movements over the past few days. Where is he right now? I mean, I assume he's in the back

00:03:11.300 somewhere at Mar-a-Lago. Yes. So he's over at Mar-a-Lago with his close circle, his close-knit

00:03:17.380 friends. We're told that they're all going to come over here if he wins, hopefully if he doesn't win

00:03:22.320 as well. But we know that he'll be over here if he does in fact win. There's going to be a whole

00:03:26.320 party. They're going to be celebrating. And we're hearing that top Trump surrogates are going to be

00:03:30.400 coming here as well. So people are starting to trickle in. It's exciting to talk to them,

00:03:35.300 hear what they think about how this race is going. And the night is still very young. So the people we

00:03:41.000 talk to are just very hopeful and excited. And obviously when it comes to Florida, everyone's excited

00:03:45.100 there because it's the best state in America. It's not just because it's where I live, mostly

00:03:48.860 because it's where I live. But also the results are already coming in from Florida. Florida is

00:03:52.520 currently 42 percent in. Donald Trump has about a 200,000 vote lead on Kamala Harris. He's got 52

00:03:57.680 percent or 47.1 percent. And Jill Stein bringing up third place with 16,000 votes. The Jill Stein vote

00:04:04.120 coming in strong across the country. So Mary, does the Trump campaign have any idea as to how long

00:04:12.120 this is going to take? That's the big question everyone's asking is, are we going to be here for

00:04:14.940 the next like eight days? What are you getting a sense of there? Yeah. So nobody seems to know

00:04:20.400 the answer to that, Ben. And we've been asking a lot of people. I think we're all hoping this will

00:04:23.520 be over very quickly. You know, I was texting Donald Trump Jr. earlier asking him how he's feeling

00:04:28.180 about the race. And he told me he thinks things are looking good as long as there's no quote unquote

00:04:32.620 BS. So it remains to be seen how this night will go if we're going to be in a long drawn out

00:04:39.360 process. But I think the answer is no one knows. And that's really the situation right

00:04:44.540 now. Well, Mary, Margaret, it's good to talk to you. I'm sure we'll check back in with you

00:04:48.520 quite shortly as the night progresses. It's, you know, enjoy yourself, you know, drink heavily.

00:04:54.560 But I didn't give you permission to do that. That's an HR violation. Anyway, have a good time

00:04:58.460 over there in Florida. Well, thank you. I got the good assignment. So folks, Daily

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00:05:13.820 d e b t dot com slash dailywire pdsdebt.com slash dailywire. And now a bunch of people are in seats

00:05:21.980 that they were not in before. It's like a magic trick. Every time we come back, there is somebody

00:05:27.140 who has inhabited different bodies. So we have Clay Travis, who's joined us in his most elegant

00:05:32.520 regalia. I did. Yes. Did I not get the memo on the velvet thing? I saw your velvet. I've had this.

00:05:39.000 Unfortunately, the last time I was sitting with all of you was two years ago. Yeah. And I was super

00:05:43.780 optimistic on that. Take it off. I'm either going to be like a I'm going to be at Kid Rock's honky

00:05:50.280 tonk tonight. So it's going to be one of the most amazing nights ever. And I'm going to be on the stage

00:05:55.060 like Donald Trump has won and now Kid Rock. And I'm going to be like, this is one of the great nights of

00:06:00.600 my life. Or I'm going to be like the fan who paints his face. And then the camera finds him

00:06:05.660 when the team is lost by like three touchdowns. You're a grown man who painted his face. And

00:06:11.380 you're like, I've just got to question a lot of my life. Are you optimistic, though? How are you

00:06:14.740 feeling? I am optimistic. The more we get into the votes coming in, the less optimistic I am.

00:06:20.240 I don't know. Does that make sense? Yes, it does. I wanted. We only had one race in the 21st

00:06:26.440 century where I think both sides said, you know what? I agree with the outcome. 2008, at least

00:06:32.100 Barack Obama won comfortably. And it feels to me like we're going to be in another one of these.

00:06:37.720 Hey, if we had made that field goal, man, we would have won if we miss a field goal. And it feels like

00:06:43.260 that's basically every race in the 21st century. So I was hoping and I still do have some hope that

00:06:48.900 Trump might have really kind of punched through. And it's all anecdote. But I bet you guys are similar.

00:06:55.460 I know people who didn't vote Trump in 16, 20 and are voting Trump in 24. Like I know a lot of

00:07:02.060 those people. The hardest part for people like me, since I don't trust feelings, feelings are bad.

00:07:06.500 Yes. And it's all anecdotal. That's the problem. I'll get high like with the anecdotal evidence.

00:07:12.420 I'll be walking around somewhere and somebody who I'd never expect will come out of the woodwork

00:07:15.180 and be like, I'm totally voting for Trump and I'm really excited about it. And I'm like,

00:07:18.020 remember, that's anecdotal evidence and it doesn't mean anything.

00:07:21.280 But I do not know a single person who voted Trump, Trump, Kamala. And so that to me feels

00:07:28.000 like if I had to go to my gut, it is that Trump is going to win by the skin of his teeth because

00:07:33.680 enough people have seen that he isn't Hitler and have been willing to make a shift since the last

00:07:40.220 two elections. Well, also Cabot Phillips is here. I am. They tried to get black Jeremy and they said,

00:07:45.060 we'll get slightly younger white guys. Yeah, exactly. Jeremy has grown taller and his beard

00:07:50.020 is slightly fuller and he's de-aged actually. So Cabot, you're usually the informational guy.

00:07:55.000 Bring me information. I need data. Yeah. Well, one thing that I was thinking of when Megan was

00:07:58.800 talking about the female vote is the fact that we can tend to think of both genders as kind of

00:08:03.340 monoliths. But looking back at the 2022 midterm exit polls, Democrats obviously dominated with women

00:08:10.440 in the aggregate. But when you looked at their performance with married women in the 2022 exit

00:08:15.600 polls, married women went for Republicans by 14 points. It was unmarried women who they picked up

00:08:20.700 by a 37 point margin. And so it can give this separate idea of how women vote as a whole. And

00:08:27.100 I actually, I was on the ground in North Carolina, Georgia, Michigan, Pennsylvania, talking to hundreds

00:08:31.520 of voters. And I realized that one of the easiest predictors for how someone was going to vote,

00:08:36.560 if it was a woman. And I'd walk up to them if I saw a wedding ring on their finger or if I saw kids

00:08:41.620 with them loading up their groceries in the parking lot. The majority of those people were voting for

00:08:46.720 Republicans. If I saw a woman who was single, younger, clearly not married, they were overwhelmingly

00:08:52.320 Democrats. So the good news is married women vote Republican, unmarried women vote Democrat.

00:08:56.540 The problem is fewer and fewer people are getting married. So that is not a good trend line for the

00:09:01.800 Republicans. And there's a real mystery here too. And the mystery is why is that divide so

00:09:06.420 remarkable? No, is it that the women change when they get married? Is that it's a different kind

00:09:11.640 of woman that's getting married to begin with? Someone who's more traditionally oriented? Is it

00:09:16.580 that the unmarried women are angry with the system because they're single? I think there's something

00:09:22.520 about that. And so they're in a category, you know, if you're not allied with someone, if you don't

00:09:27.880 have a partner, then you have reason to be what you have reason to be resentful. Do you have a reason

00:09:33.360 to doubt the validity of the system as a whole? Are you trying to trumpet that sexual freedom

00:09:39.980 that's hypothetically part of being single? Like there's something very strange going on here

00:09:44.800 with unmarried young women. And I don't exactly get it. I think part of it is the failure of

00:09:51.080 the aspirational, just generally in American society. I think so much of our voting now breaks

00:09:54.580 down to, to go back sort of the Elon Musk of it, the failure of aspiration. If you fail in your

00:09:59.240 attempt to do something, there are two things you can do. You can either do what a successful

00:10:01.960 person does, which is say, what can I do differently in order to improve my lot? You know, as God

00:10:06.120 tells Cain to do, or you can go out and try and kill your brother. And you can basically

00:10:10.500 say it's the fault of the system. It's everybody else's fault. And so if as a system, you say

00:10:15.200 that you don't even aspire anymore to get married, that's not something to even aspire to. Then

00:10:19.980 there has to be some substitute for the thing that you're supposed to aspire to. What is the

00:10:23.200 life that is now the substitute for what a married life would have been? And I do think-

00:10:27.860 Sex and the city.

00:10:28.520 Well, I think that's exactly right. And so if the, if the, if the substitute happiness,

00:10:32.480 the ersatz happiness you're being provided is sex in the city, well then of course abortion is your

00:10:36.300 number one issue. Because abortion is the thing that destroys, that destroys the possibility of

00:10:40.780 you being forced into, I mean, let's be real about how marriage used to work in this country. A huge

00:10:44.900 percentage of people got married because they knocked up a girl, right? I mean, that, that was

00:10:48.000 like a huge number of shotgun weddings in America in 1940, extremely high.

00:10:53.200 Especially in the South where we are right now.

00:10:54.880 A hundred percent. And you know what? That's not actually a bad thing because it turns out that

00:10:58.440 that's sort of how natural law would tend to suggest that things work, right? That if you

00:11:02.540 actually knock somebody up, you should then get married to that person. Then you should raise

00:11:05.340 the child together. That was reality, cuddling you back into, to what you should aspire to doing

00:11:10.620 anyway. Abortion cuts that completely off, which is why if you wish to uphold the sex in the city

00:11:15.500 lifestyle, it's, it's the number one issue. We're going to take a quick moment to highlight,

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00:11:58.480 In the beginning was the word. Christ is a master at using short, mysterious stories. They change the

00:12:07.060 listener who takes them seriously. My experience with the biblical text is that they're inexhaustible

00:12:14.280 sources of wisdom. If I find something in them that is an obstacle, it's because there's

00:12:18.360 something in me that has yet to be transformed. I just don't get it.

00:12:23.300 The person that you do not think could ever be virtuous. Oh, let me show you. This is the person

00:12:27.980 who is fulfilling the law and the prophets. But seek first his kingdom and his righteousness,

00:12:32.640 and all these things shall be added to you as well. I don't believe in that promise. I'll just be

00:12:36.800 honest at this point. That has not been part of my experience. This parable I've been trying to

00:12:41.400 understand forever. While we were talking and while we were sitting there, then it hit me. I saw it.

00:12:46.340 Name me one ideology that has supplanted Christianity that has done good for humanity. This Jew is very

00:12:54.220 frightened of a post-Christian society. He was the God-man, the model, the example of what we ought to

00:13:00.400 become and what we can become. It's okay. It's safe for you and all of your doubts and apprehensions to open

00:13:06.600 up and to let these stories in. He is the temple. He is the Torah. He is the covenant. He is prophecy

00:13:12.780 fulfilled. If you're doing this and it isn't also the love of wisdom, it's also an attempt at wisdom

00:13:18.500 without love. In both ways, you're going radically wrong. Hour of love. It sounds so cliche when you say it.

00:13:23.040 We're 60 there. I don't want to be in a Hallmark card, I tell you.

00:13:27.500 We've got our work cut out for us, gentlemen. This is one peculiar time and one peculiar text,

00:13:33.260 and I sure hope we're up to the task.

00:13:43.260 That was a nice little treat. That was the world premiere of the teaser trailer for Jordan Peterson's

00:13:48.460 new series on the Gospels, which, you know, I think, Dr. Peterson, that your series on Exodus is

00:13:54.160 one of the finest things that we've ever got to be a part of producing, and I've only made it through

00:13:59.200 about a quarter of the Gospel episodes, but they're just tremendous. Can you tell us a little bit

00:14:03.120 about what that process was like? Well, the first thing I'd probably like to do is to thank you

00:14:07.800 guys for having enough courage to undertake the endeavor. I mean, it's a big risk, you know,

00:14:12.620 and it isn't at all obvious that a 16-part series on Exodus with nine academics, that's bad enough to

00:14:20.700 begin with, you know, would be something that could attract an audience that there could be any,

00:14:26.540 what, business case for, but you guys, you know, you threw yourself into it, and then we doubled the

00:14:30.880 length on you, and you went along with that, and I know it's been spectacularly successful, and

00:14:35.400 that's been great. What was it like? Well, it was a privilege, you know, because the people at the

00:14:42.520 table were top rate. Like, I was really fascinated to be in the seminar because every single person

00:14:49.140 that spoke always had something to say that I really wanted to listen to. I really found that,

00:14:54.960 like, I learned that with the Exodus seminar because I learned so much there. It literally

00:14:59.480 took me months to digest it. It had big influence on the book that I am publishing on November 19th.

00:15:05.040 It helped me clarify a lot of the stories that I didn't understand, and then, of course, the same

00:15:09.160 thing happened as we walked through the Gospels, and it was great, and I hope that we did as good a job

00:15:15.960 or better, both on the discussion side and on the production side, with the Gospel seminar as with

00:15:22.300 the Exodus seminar, and I think we did, and we got down to brass tacks, and it's, see, I've learned

00:15:29.820 this is a revolutionary thing, you know. I've learned that all the evidence supports the notion that we

00:15:36.300 see the world through a story. In fact, a description of the structure through which we see the world is

00:15:41.940 a story, so then the only question, once you know that, and I think that's indisputable on scientific

00:15:47.640 grounds now, and so once you know that, the only question becomes, well, what's the story, you know,

00:15:54.320 and the cultural insistence is that it's one of power, and the biblical insistence is that it's

00:16:00.100 one of sacrifice, and those both aren't right, like it's one or the other, right? There's alternatives,

00:16:07.340 hedonism, nihilism, which is sort of the absence of stories, but I think the idea that this community

00:16:13.080 is founded on sacrifice is, it's so substantive that it's self-evident, and then the issue is,

00:16:20.420 how do you investigate the structure of sacrifice? We did that a lot in the Gospel seminar.

00:16:25.100 I don't want to get to any spoilers or anything like that, but when you're delving into this

00:16:30.340 question, are you looking at it from the perspective of, you know, which is, which of these two views is

00:16:35.580 more conducive to the kind of society I want to live in, or are you asking, which of these two views

00:16:40.520 is right? It's deeper than that, because I don't think there is a society that's predicated on

00:16:46.620 power. There's force. I can force you to do something that I want you to do, but that doesn't

00:16:52.260 mean that we have a society. A society is based on mutually acceptable sacrifice upward, and

00:16:59.460 it's worth delving for a moment on what I mean by sacrifice, and it's pretty straightforward. Like,

00:17:05.960 if we're in a communal relation, it's not all about you, and it's not all about me, and that really

00:17:12.780 is the definition of a relationship. If it's all about me, it's not a relationship. If it's all about

00:17:17.420 me, it's about my whim and my power to impose it. If we're in a relationship, I have to give up

00:17:23.820 something that's immediate to me for the sake of the relationship and the sake of the future, and

00:17:29.560 that's why sacrifice is at the foundation of society. It's virtually a truism, and it's also

00:17:35.940 the same in relation to work, because work is the sacrifice of the future. It's the sacrifice of the

00:17:41.660 present to the future, right? So we sacrifice our own immediate whims to be communal, and we sacrifice

00:17:49.760 the immediate present for the future, and so sacrifice is the foundation of society, and I just can't see how

00:17:57.020 that can be otherwise. The counter-proposition is absurd, right? Which is the idea that all social

00:18:03.620 interaction is a consequence of power. That is, there are more dismal views that it's all sex and

00:18:10.160 hedonism, or that there's no meaning in anything. Those are pretty catastrophic views, but the idea

00:18:15.940 that all social organization is a function of power, first of all, I think that's a confession on the

00:18:22.600 part of the theory is a confession and a wish. Absolutely, absolutely, and I also think that you,

00:18:29.660 I also think it's untrue. It doesn't even work for chimpanzees, by the way, and the evidence for that

00:18:33.960 is pretty clear, and it's also the most, I just can't imagine setting up a social system on a more

00:18:40.780 dismal view of humanity and community than that of power. The only way we can work together is if I

00:18:47.780 force you, well, who wants that? Well, we know who wants that. We want, it's tyrants, it's whim-possessed

00:18:56.480 tyrants who want that. What do you like if you want the opposite? Well, you sacrifice upward. Ben,

00:19:01.540 you were talking about having children. It's like it reorients you in the world, right? Because all of a

00:19:05.500 sudden, there's something, there's someone who's clearly more important than you, and a time frame

00:19:10.540 that's clearly more important than you right now, and that reorients you radically, and that's a

00:19:15.380 sacrificial orientation, and so I was great doing the gospel center. My invitation to be in the

00:19:24.860 academic roundtable was lost in my email inbox, but I would have been there. Did it go into

00:19:29.520 promotions or? It was probably there, yeah, spam. By the way, just a quick indicator, and you can talk

00:19:35.420 more about this, just a couple of pieces of good news if you want to be in a good mood. Okay, so

00:19:39.080 piece of good news, number one, Osceola County, which is one of the most Hispanic counties in America,

00:19:44.380 55 percent Hispanic. It's heavily Puerto Rican. Donald Trump is on the verge of winning that in

00:19:49.780 Florida, which means that he is outperforming maybe this Puerto Rican issue with regard to Tony

00:19:56.500 Hinchcliffe making a bad joke. Maybe that has some consequences for places like Pennsylvania. I know

00:20:01.080 there have been worries because there are 200,000 Puerto Rican voters in Pennsylvania, so that's a

00:20:04.540 piece of news, number one. No, the thing is Puerto Ricans have a good sense of humor. I'm from New York.

00:20:08.220 I've spent a lot of time around Puerto Ricans. That non-traversy was so contrived. I'm glad to hear some

00:20:13.540 data actually back up that. Okay, a couple other pieces of data. As of 7.25 p.m. Eastern Time,

00:20:19.100 according to Decision Desk HQ, Trump currently has a 61 percent chance of winning the presidency.

00:20:24.040 So the numbers they're seeing, obviously, they think are looking pretty good. What was the source?

00:20:28.600 That is Decision Desk HQ. And they're constantly adjusting that.

00:20:32.140 They are, and Decision Desk has been our partner tonight. If you're seeing any of the numbers that

00:20:37.360 you're seeing on your screen or maps that you're seeing on your screen as we go through the evening

00:20:40.100 tonight are by way of our partnership with Decision Desk HQ.

00:20:43.820 And one other piece of data, I know we're not supposed to do exit polls, but I'm going to break

00:20:46.760 my own rule because it makes me happy. And again, the rules don't apply to me, since, you know,

00:20:50.200 as a co-owner of the company and a very famous person, they let you do it. So according to the CNN

00:20:56.920 exit poll, Georgia independents broke for Trump by 11 percent, which is a 20 percentage point swing

00:21:03.040 toward Trump among indies from four years ago, Ryan Gerdoski, late of CNN.

00:21:09.700 He is suggesting that there's a possibility that Georgia gets called relatively early,

00:21:19.020 as in within the next hour and a half or so.

00:21:20.420 One more exit poll, since I am not an employee of the company.

00:21:24.420 Yeah, we literally cannot fire you.

00:21:26.040 You can't fire me for this.

00:21:27.980 Can we make his life miserable?

00:21:29.140 Yeah, probably. 25 percent of black voters in Georgia, reportedly male voters, went for Trump.

00:21:39.380 Wow.

00:21:39.660 If that is true and the independence is true, Trump is going to win Georgia, which would be huge. And

00:21:46.240 the numbers would suggest, based on how well he's doing in Florida, there's a famous band,

00:21:51.220 Florida Georgia Line, if you've ever spent any time around there. There's not a lot of difference

00:21:54.980 between North Georgia, North Florida and South Georgia. So if Trump's going to win by 10 in

00:22:01.000 Florida, I think he's going to win Georgia.

00:22:03.680 By the way, can I just give a shout out to my boy, Ron DeSantis, who has turned Florida

00:22:06.120 into the best state in America. Okay, Ron DeSantis turned that state from a dead heat in 2018 to a

00:22:12.520 place where registered Republicans have a number of registered Democrats by a million. I think it's

00:22:16.520 a million point two at this point. And Miami just went red in an 18 point swing from 2020.

00:22:21.620 You guys need some more illegal immigrants. By the way, Hillary won Miami-Dade by 30,

00:22:28.660 just in 2016. That's like a 35 point swing.

00:22:31.640 For like a point to the future, putting aside this election, which, you know, a little early

00:22:34.800 for that. But, you know, one thing that is positive that we should keep an eye on is,

00:22:38.940 I know it's looking a little ahead, 2030 census is going to radically redo all these numbers.

00:22:43.240 Okay, 2030 census. So I've mentioned this before, my worst case scenario, which has been scaring

00:22:46.860 everybody all over the internet, which is that tonight Donald Trump wins North Carolina,

00:22:49.960 Georgia, Arizona, Nevada, and she wins 270 to 268. But the 2020 census was actually done wrong.

00:22:55.960 Because of Omaha, because Nebraska didn't go one win in the state.

00:23:00.060 And also because, so the census in 2020 was done wrong. Okay. And they've acknowledged this.

00:23:05.420 This is perfect. This is like, they've clearly, they've said this. The census undercounted Florida,

00:23:08.840 it undercounted Texas, it overcounted New York, it overcounted Delaware and Rhode Island.

00:23:12.300 And so if they'd done it right, Florida has two more electoral votes. Trump doesn't need to win any

00:23:15.960 of the blue wall states in order to win the election. Okay. And so there's likely to be a

00:23:19.900 lawsuit on that basis. Will that lawsuit be successful? I doubt it, but there will be a

00:23:23.880 lawsuit on that basis if that's the result of the election, which is actually not super improbable,

00:23:27.700 given the current odds. Now, what that means for 2030, however, is that as population continues to

00:23:32.720 bleed south, as it continues to bleed to red states, if we do the census correctly in 2030,

00:23:37.520 a bunch of this math gets redone. Florida now has three or four more electoral college votes

00:23:42.700 and places like, like Virginia have fewer, right? California loses electoral college votes. So,

00:23:48.700 you know, for all the sort of despair that you hear all the time from people, you know,

00:23:52.360 things move, things change. I'm old enough to remember when Florida and Ohio were swing states

00:23:55.900 and now those are bright red. And I think in the future, by the way, Pennsylvania, Michigan,

00:23:59.720 and Wisconsin are all trending red. Virginia, the other hand is, is trending blue. I think that

00:24:03.280 that's the most likely. Virginia looks like Colorado, Pennsylvania, Ohio, Wisconsin, Michigan look very

00:24:08.320 much the same trending red. And that 25% black male exit poll is not a big surprise. I mean,

00:24:15.300 we've been talking about the gender wars and with respect to women, but the Kamala Harris campaign

00:24:20.980 made a decision to make no attempt at all to win a single male vote. Yes. They did not put out even

00:24:27.700 one single ad the entire campaign targeted at men. Excuse me, Matt. Excuse me. You clearly didn't

00:24:33.000 look at Pete Buttigieg and Tim Wohl's as well. That was very effective, I thought. And of course,

00:24:38.680 they put out a few ads that were allegedly ostensibly for men, but even those were actually

00:24:43.020 talking to women. And that is a strategy that should cost them the election. We'll see if it

00:24:47.860 does. I also would hope, and by the way, you guys do great work. If you haven't seen Matt's movie,

00:24:52.700 it is absolutely hysterical. You don't have to tell me. I know, but I mean, for everybody out there,

00:24:57.140 I mean, what was that movie again? Am I racist? Very good. By the way, Rachel Maddow,

00:25:01.980 really big fan. I heard a good job by that. I do love it. But I do think if that were to hold,

00:25:08.000 what it would do is destroy identity politics, which I think ultimately-

00:25:12.340 We're talking about my movie still?

00:25:13.380 No, well, that helped. But black men voting for Donald Trump has the potential to blow up

00:25:18.560 identity politics, which I think is the root cancer that is polluting so much of American

00:25:23.420 discourse. Yep. You may have noticed that joining us now, we have classicist, historian,

00:25:27.380 host of the Young Heretics podcast, and author of Light of the Mind, Light of the World,

00:25:32.020 my good friend, Spencer Clavin. Spencer, welcome to the show.

00:25:34.540 Hey, guys. It's great to be here. I am not, in fact, Jordan Peterson. You may have noticed.

00:25:37.800 I've transformed over time.

00:25:39.040 Yes, although you'll have an interesting take on this. Thank you, Clay.

00:25:41.640 Thank you, guys.

00:25:42.380 Clay just got up and left. I don't know.

00:25:43.960 He's gone.

00:25:44.480 Is it something I want to say?

00:25:46.080 He's like, Spencer Clavin, I don't like him either. I got to hang out with Kid Rock boys.

00:25:50.320 When Dr. Peterson was with us, and of course, Dr. Peterson will be back later on in the evening,

00:25:56.500 we were talking about sacrifice and the sort of Christian narrative that undergirds society.

00:26:02.140 And one of the things that it occurs to me that Christians are called to sacrifice,

00:26:05.840 among other things, in many instances is their sense of self. And religion often gives us a very

00:26:11.880 false sense of self. And Christianity posits that the false sense of self is that we're good.

00:26:17.760 And sadly, I think when Christianity is misused, it's actually misused to reinforce the old

00:26:24.940 religious notion that we're good. And if we're good, then of course, we don't need intervention

00:26:28.960 from God in the form of Christ. Why I bring this up right now is because a lot of Christians hang on

00:26:35.780 to this view of themselves that they are above having to get their hands dirty in worldly affairs.

00:26:41.480 And many Christians, for that reason, don't engage in the political process. They think that if they

00:26:48.160 engage in the political process, especially in a moment where you have choices that are,

00:26:53.540 let's call them suboptimal, maybe from a Christian value perspective. I mean, Donald Trump, you can say

00:26:58.960 many good things about Donald Trump. We've said many of them here. He's not a great moral icon.

00:27:04.720 His pro-choice sort of background has really reasserted itself in this election,

00:27:11.240 which is very difficult for Christians. Christians, I think in this country, particularly

00:27:14.660 evangelicals, do not know yet how to reorient their politics in the wake of an event they never

00:27:21.220 thought would occur, which is the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

00:27:23.300 Which changed everything.

00:27:24.080 Which changed everything. It makes abortion now a political issue. And political issues are messy

00:27:28.420 issues. When abortion was a sort of abstract judicial issue, Christians could afford to take

00:27:35.760 an abolitionist point of view. And it was politically beneficial to do so.

00:27:39.760 And it was politically beneficial to take an abolitionist point of view. Now listen, politics

00:27:43.900 aside, morally, I am a complete abortion abolitionist. You can't be more pro-life than me.

00:27:48.520 I don't want exceptions for rape. I don't want exceptions for incest. I am 100% abortion bad all the

00:27:55.000 way full stop. But as a political issue, we now have to make a decision. If I lived in California and

00:28:01.400 there was an opportunity for a 14-week abortion ban, I would vote for it. And if it passed, I would

00:28:06.380 then start working on a 12-week abortion ban. But many Christians are simply not willing to give up

00:28:11.460 their image of themselves as pure and perfect and holy and above it all and get their hands dirty with

00:28:18.000 the difficult compromise that's necessary in politics. And I am concerned that if Christians

00:28:22.860 don't vote, we won't win. There are still 18 minutes to vote, to get in line to vote, before the next

00:28:30.160 round of polls closed. If you're a Christian and you've been on the fence about the idea of voting,

00:28:36.220 please go stand in line. If you're not in a state where the polls have already closed,

00:28:40.140 please get in line. You have an obligation to vote. Our obligation is not to our view of ourselves.

00:28:46.340 Our obligation, if anything, is to confront our view of ourselves, realize our need. And part of what

00:28:51.160 we get out of grace in Christianity is the opportunity to actually participate in a world that isn't

00:28:57.380 perfect. You only get to participate in that world that isn't perfect if you believe in some sort of

00:29:01.640 system of grace. And I wanted to say that while Dr. Peterson was here, but I didn't get to.

00:29:07.240 I'll have to do.

00:29:08.100 So I'm saying it to you. What do you say to this?

00:29:10.220 Well, for all that conservatives have spent, what, four years at least now bewailing wokeness and

00:29:17.820 identifying all of its flaws and talking about what a terrible, ugly, self-destructive ideology it is,

00:29:24.720 which it is. And all of that is true. And we should point that out. We still have not as

00:29:29.700 conservatives or as Christians reckoned with the fact that wokeness offers people something.

00:29:36.520 Wokeness has a selling point and it's exactly what you are saying. It's an answer to the question,

00:29:42.720 what must I do to be saved? And for most of my adult life, we've pretended that that question

00:29:49.220 doesn't matter, that we can sweep it under the rug while we pursue material pleasures and

00:29:53.020 technological advancements and that God is dead or over or irrelevant. And we don't even have to

00:29:57.900 think about virtue or abstract eternal ideals. That idea turned out to be catastrophically wrong,

00:30:06.700 even among the people who said that they believed it. And this is why the new atheists and all the

00:30:12.500 Sam Harris's and Richard Dawkins's of the world have now been stampeded by a mob of young people

00:30:19.260 desperate for somebody to tell them how they can be good. And woke politics stands right in that gap

00:30:26.840 and says, all you have to do is take the knee. You simply have to proclaim your guilt. You have to

00:30:33.120 confess your systemic racism or you have to assume your position on the sacrificial pedestal as a

00:30:39.240 minority or whatever. And now you will once again be in the grand cosmic dance of virtue and pollution

00:30:45.860 and sacrifice. Christians are supposed to be different, I think is what you are saying.

00:30:51.720 That's right.

00:30:52.440 The Christian pitch is actually something radically other than that, in a way that almost no other

00:30:59.060 ideology or religion offers. G.K. Chesterton says, before you get the good news, you have to get the bad

00:31:04.440 news. And the bad news is that whereas virtue is absolute and God's justice is perfect altogether and

00:31:11.200 his righteousness is entire, we are at an infinite remove from that in the world. And the incarnation

00:31:17.040 is the point of the incarnation. God wouldn't have had to take on flesh and die if he weren't willing

00:31:22.680 to meet us at that imperfect juncture and take the next step toward his perfection from wherever we are,

00:31:29.540 whatever mess it is, however snarled and tangled we are. And boy, are we in our past sins and the sins of

00:31:36.040 our fathers and our ancestral guilt, God in Christ takes one step toward God the Father with us. And

00:31:43.060 in terms of politics, this cashes out as the ancient virtue of prudence, which is what you

00:31:48.380 were talking about. The Christian church fathers and the Aristotelians of the ancient world and I

00:31:54.420 think the rabbis of the Talmud would all recognize what you are describing as a classic instance of

00:31:58.940 prudence. You don't get the world that conforms to your ideals. You don't even get a world that

00:32:03.280 approximates to your ideals. You get a world that is a thousand miles away from your ideals and you

00:32:08.200 have two choices. One is to nope out and be responsible for whatever the world is as it is

00:32:14.520 because you have no effect on it. And the other is to get your hands dirty and admit that you were

00:32:17.960 never clean to be. And on this point, you bring up good old Aristotle. He doesn't just say prudence is

00:32:22.820 a virtue. He says prudence is the paramount political virtue. It is the most important of the

00:32:29.140 political virtues. And so we cannot afford to have Christians just throwing their hands up in

00:32:34.080 the air in a kind of suicidal political quietism that is really a homicidal political quietism

00:32:39.780 because it's going to take a lot of good people down with them. That's why I said Jordan Peterson

00:32:43.940 was here. Who's this guy? Who am I? Who are you? I've never seen this man in my life.

00:32:49.360 Spencer Clavin. He is tall and very well-educated and has a bit of a beard sometimes. And hair on

00:32:56.020 my head, you made it. Yeah, has a distinctive voice. Yes. So obviously no relation. No relation.

00:33:00.780 No relation. We're so thankful for tonight. I think what Spencer meant to say was go vote.

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00:34:54.640 We're now joined by Daily Wire host and reporter Megan Basham. Megan, welcome to our election night

00:34:58.880 coverage. You hosted the pre-show with Cabot. I thought it was terrific. I did. And now I love

00:35:03.260 just being in this den of testosterone. Thanks for having me.

00:35:06.420 I want to be fair to you. Yeah, exactly. Michael has a pretty high level of estrogen, to be fair.

00:35:10.460 But quick update. So Florida, best state in the union. Just going to keep saying it.

00:35:14.480 It's my home state because I, in my own personage and with my family, brought something like 20

00:35:20.100 Republican voters to Florida. Just our immediate family and surrounding friends.

00:35:25.340 Florida is just blowing it out for Trump right now. Florida, Miami-Dade is flipping to Trump.

00:35:31.260 Right now, there are two major ballot measures that were on the ballot in Florida. It was an

00:35:34.440 attempt for Democrats to claw their way back in. One was Amendment 3, one was Amendment 4. Amendment 3

00:35:38.300 was a legalized marijuana petition. Amendment 4 was a legalized abortion. Both look like they are going

00:35:42.880 to go down to defeat because Florida is a red state and ain't going back. Meanwhile, over in

00:35:47.860 Georgia, the results look pretty ugly for Kamala Harris thus far. Some of the swing counties are

00:35:53.580 moving toward Donald Trump. There's also some problems, apparently, in New Hampshire. There's

00:35:58.800 some towns in New Hampshire that have had some pretty significant swings to Donald Trump. If you

00:36:03.900 had to game this thing out right now, it looks as though basically Kamala Harris's hopes come down to

00:36:08.200 extraordinarily heavily turnout in Philadelphia, Detroit, Milwaukee. That may be the entire

00:36:13.440 election right there. It's just do enough people show up for her in those three big cities specifically

00:36:18.520 because the rest of the map looks like it is trending toward Donald Trump over 2020.

00:36:22.960 Well, that's really encouraging to hear. I hadn't picked up the latest, so I'm really glad I came

00:36:27.320 onto the set to get that update, especially about Amendment 4. So, and all the Christians say amen.

00:36:32.900 Yeah, that's right. Again, credit where credit is due. Georgia and Florida are two states where

00:36:40.160 Donald Trump was at odds with the governor of that state, and the governors of those states have done

00:36:43.640 yeoman's work in actually shifting the voting population of those states. Brian Kemp, the governor

00:36:48.120 of Georgia, who endorsed Donald Trump, was at odds with them. He's done really good work on the ground

00:36:52.160 in Georgia, even though Donald Trump has been very much at odds with, say, the Secretary of State of

00:36:55.220 Georgia. And, of course, Ron DeSantis ran against Trump, and then DeSantis endorsed Trump and has been

00:36:59.620 campaigning for Trump, and that state continues to get redder and redder. So, again, the early

00:37:05.260 numbers, it's way too early to say anything like things look great. But, again, if you were looking

00:37:10.560 at, like, early trends, early trends for Donald Trump, people are showing up to vote. They're

00:37:14.480 showing up to vote. And, by the way, if you're in Pennsylvania, you still have 10 minutes to get in

00:37:17.000 line. Get your ass in line if you're in Pennsylvania right now because that state matters. That is the

00:37:21.600 keystone state for this election. And speaking of Pennsylvania, we're being joined now by Cassie Akiva,

00:37:25.660 who is joining us from Dave McCormick's election party headquarters in Pennsylvania. Of course,

00:37:30.940 McCormick running for Senate in that state. Welcome, Cassie. What's going on there?

00:37:35.720 Thanks for having me. Right now, the door's just opened. It's very rowdy here. We have a very loud

00:37:40.740 ban behind us. The campaign told me that they're feeling pretty good. There's been a really good

00:37:45.040 turnout in the rural area, so things are looking good here. The party's just getting started.

00:37:50.640 What have you been saying on the ground in terms for support for Trump from Gen Z voters?

00:37:55.660 Yeah, so we went to a Trump rally yesterday in Pittsburgh, and we wanted to talk to voters

00:38:01.000 about why they were voting for him. And halfway through my interviews, I realized that every

00:38:05.280 single person I interviewed was Gen Z. There were so many Gen Zers there, so it had to be

00:38:09.780 a video about Gen Z support. So take a look right here.

00:38:12.940 Are you supporting Donald Trump?

00:38:22.280 We are.

00:38:22.940 Of course.

00:38:23.720 Yes.

00:38:24.280 Oh yeah.

00:38:24.800 Oh yeah.

00:38:25.220 Absolutely.

00:38:25.980 Oh yeah. Big top.

00:38:26.840 Yes, I am.

00:38:27.560 I already voted for him.

00:38:28.960 100%.

00:38:29.360 I am.

00:38:30.080 Trump.

00:38:30.800 Trump.

00:38:31.400 Trump all the way.

00:38:32.400 Donald J. Trump.

00:38:33.360 Donald J. Trump.

00:38:34.220 Trump is 24, baby.

00:38:35.080 Amen.

00:38:35.560 And why are you supporting him?

00:38:36.440 You know, it's foreign policy. I don't want us to go to war. You know, I don't want to be drafted.

00:38:41.620 We're going to lower our taxes. It's going to make life more affordable again.

00:38:44.400 I think mostly the economy.

00:38:45.880 The stuff that's happened in the past couple of years hasn't been good for our country.

00:38:48.540 I just think he's for the people, and he's going to make this country great again.

00:38:51.340 Real life is a very big thing for me.

00:38:53.040 The economy is dead right now.

00:38:54.380 Kamal and Joe have done absolutely nothing for this country. I just don't think I'm going

00:38:57.700 to be able to buy a house.

00:38:58.720 Is this your first time voting for Donald Trump?

00:39:00.360 Yes, ma'am.

00:39:01.240 First election ever.

00:39:02.400 It is my first time.

00:39:03.220 It sure is.

00:39:03.920 This is my first time voting.

00:39:05.040 It is.

00:39:05.880 Yes.

00:39:06.340 First time voting.

00:39:07.360 Yes, it is.

00:39:08.040 Yes.

00:39:08.480 Yep.

00:39:08.820 Why is it important for Gen Z to vote for Donald Trump?

00:39:11.220 Because we're the future.

00:39:12.540 If you want to be proud to be an American again, vote for Donald J. Trump. It's as easy as that.

00:39:18.800 All right.

00:39:19.820 Cassie, that's unbelievable.

00:39:20.800 We're going to be checking back out, checking back with you throughout the evening.

00:39:24.280 Thanks for being with us.

00:39:26.660 Thanks so much.

00:39:28.420 Well, I may as well mention here at Decision Desk HQ, has Trump continuing to go up in the possibility

00:39:33.240 of winning CalShe, which is a betting market?

00:39:35.360 CalShe has Trump at a two-to-one favorite now in the betting markets.

00:39:38.520 The same thing is happening over at Polly Market.

00:39:40.580 So, you know, none of that means anything, but it also doesn't mean totally nothing.

00:39:44.420 If we're going the other way, certainly we would be seeing the celebration breaking out.

00:39:49.260 It's a little too early for us to tune over to MSNBC and see the bullets of sweat coming

00:39:53.380 down people's face like Robert Hayes in an airplane.

00:39:55.540 Don't get cocky.

00:39:56.620 I know.

00:39:58.100 You'll need people to vote.

00:40:00.640 I've been saying this for months now.

00:40:02.580 You do not win presidential elections by supporting candidates.

00:40:05.960 You win presidential elections by voting for candidates.

00:40:08.780 And there's still time for most of the country to vote.

00:40:11.620 Every single vote is going to matter.

00:40:13.780 Elections in our lifetime have been decided by so few votes.

00:40:17.320 If you make the decision to sit this one out, you may very well be making the decision for

00:40:21.740 the people who represent your values or more broadly support your values to lose.

00:40:27.360 Ben, Cassie is at McCormick's campaign HQ in Pennsylvania.

00:40:31.280 You actually did some campaigning with McCormick, didn't you?

00:40:33.560 I did.

00:40:34.140 And that is a tight state.

00:40:35.940 So David's running an extraordinary campaign in Pennsylvania.

00:40:38.700 You'll remember early on when Trump was struggling to find his sea legs against Kamala Harris,

00:40:42.340 who's actually McCormick's campaign.

00:40:43.820 That was putting out most of the great kick-ass ads against Kamala Harris.

00:40:46.560 Because McCormick is a business person, so he really is data-driven.

00:40:49.560 And so he's really kind of broken down the state into granular detail.

00:40:53.300 He's run a very solid campaign against Bob Casey, who, of course, is a longtime top-level

00:40:56.940 Democratic politico in the state.

00:40:58.600 He was the governor of the state.

00:40:59.420 He's the senator of the state now.

00:41:00.840 That race is a toss-up.

00:41:02.000 It's extremely tight.

00:41:03.900 And so Pennsylvania is going to come down to the wire.

00:41:05.540 And, of course, their voting procedures take forever.

00:41:08.720 There are apparently some precincts that are there now going to extend out until 10 p.m. tonight

00:41:12.640 because of failures over there.

00:41:13.840 So that means, guys, take some Red Bull.

00:41:16.940 We may be here just a little while.

00:41:19.120 But, yeah, Dave's a terrific candidate.

00:41:20.700 He's really authentic.

00:41:21.560 I had the chance to spend some time with pretty much, I would say, every swing state candidate

00:41:25.100 with just a couple of exceptions.

00:41:26.840 And, David, this crop of swing state candidates this year, this is not 2022.

00:41:32.520 This is not we rated the local loony bin.

00:41:34.080 We actually went out and got a bunch of good candidates like Eric Hovde in Wisconsin,

00:41:38.660 who I think is going to win in Wisconsin,

00:41:39.880 and Bernie Moreno in Ohio, who I think is almost certainly going to win.

00:41:43.500 Now, it's me being confident, but I think he's almost certainly going to win in Ohio.

00:41:46.480 I'd say the baseline for Republican Senate wins, I know we haven't talked Senate races yet,

00:41:50.520 baseline for Republican Senate wins tonight is 52.

00:41:52.960 That includes West Virginia.

00:41:54.820 That includes Tim Sheehy, who I did campaign with in Montana, who is an amazingly good candidate.

00:41:59.100 Tim Sheehy is terrific on the stump, really charismatic, excellent story.

00:42:03.460 He was obviously, I believe, a Navy SEAL.

00:42:05.760 So, you know, he's going to win, I think, walking away in Montana.

00:42:09.680 That takes you to 51.

00:42:10.680 Bernie Moreno, I think, is going to win in Ohio.

00:42:12.120 That's your 52.

00:42:12.940 The question is, if you get to 53, 54, if Carrie Lake sneaks in, maybe even 55 tonight.

00:42:17.340 Listen, the stakes where the Senate are concerned are so high.

00:42:20.640 Should Donald Trump fail to carry the White House,

00:42:22.520 the Senate could be the only institution that really stands between a president, Kamala Harris,

00:42:28.060 and the worst excesses of her policy agenda, including adding states to the country.

00:42:35.120 And if Donald Trump wins the presidency, he's going to need the Senate in order to

00:42:38.800 confirm his justices, confirm his nominees, advance his agenda,

00:42:42.560 and give us the kind of conservative victories that we're looking for.

00:42:45.920 Ben, I was really proud of you for being out on the stump the way that you were,

00:42:48.920 and we actually put together this video of some of your appearances throughout the election.

00:42:58.060 This election is the most important election of our lifetimes.

00:43:08.120 Everybody says that every single election cycle.

00:43:10.880 But this one actually is.

00:43:12.700 Imagine Harris wins.

00:43:14.440 Here's what we get to do in the Senate.

00:43:16.740 We get to say no.

00:43:18.140 If Democrats were to, God forbid, gain a triumvirate,

00:43:20.340 the kind of damage they would do to the country with the House, the Senate, and the presidency

00:43:23.360 would be almost unthinkable at this point.

00:43:25.720 She has already vowed that she would kill the filibuster if she were given that opportunity.

00:43:30.120 She would then stack the Senate with a couple of extra states.

00:43:32.920 She would stack the Supreme Court.

00:43:34.620 We're at really very high levels of violent crime.

00:43:37.940 We need to secure the border with the wall and border patrol.

00:43:40.540 The standard of education across all of America has gone in one direction, decline.

00:43:46.300 What's at stake is not just slight differences in the marginal tax rate.

00:43:51.360 What's at stake here are fundamental values, fundamental American values.

00:43:55.260 There is a civilizational battle going on.

00:43:58.060 And this election is part of that battle.

00:44:00.520 When I was a kid, my dad used to say to me over and over again, he said,

00:44:03.880 Ted, when we lost our freedom in Cuba, I had a place to flee to.

00:44:08.500 If we lose our freedom here, where do we go?

00:44:12.040 That's what the stakes of this election are.

00:44:14.600 There's a party in this country that wants the future of America to be stagnation,

00:44:18.320 social decay, foreign policy weakness.

00:44:20.600 And then there's one party and there's one group of people who want America to build,

00:44:24.540 to explode forth.

00:44:26.120 The greatest America has ever been.

00:44:28.020 This is what President Trump means when he says make America great again.

00:44:31.120 We want a secure border, safe streets, cheap gas, cops are good, criminals are bad,

00:44:35.240 boys are boys, girls are girls.

00:44:36.520 The Senate races are incredibly important and it's not glitzy, glamorous work to go out

00:44:53.280 and stump for, you know, it's a great thing to go out and stump with Trump and you were

00:44:57.440 able to go host a fundraiser for him this year, have him on your show, do an appearance on

00:45:01.980 the anniversary of the October 7th massacre with him and get some great time with Trump.

00:45:06.980 But it's really the sort of behind the scenes stuff that you did in this election on your

00:45:10.920 own dime, I should say.

00:45:11.840 That's not a thing.

00:45:12.400 It's a little expensive, yeah.

00:45:13.220 I mean, I was a little shocked by that, but yeah, it is cool.

00:45:16.620 And going to these different places, I mean, first of all, the amount of respect that you

00:45:19.960 should have for candidates who do this day in and day out is really, really high.

00:45:22.860 I mean, that is a rough job until you've been on a bus with one of these candidates just

00:45:26.460 stopping place after place after place, you know, going with Sam Brown in Nevada and, you

00:45:31.840 know, going around to three separate events where he has to tell his life story three

00:45:34.460 separate times to three separate groups of people.

00:45:36.480 I mean, it's a grind.

00:45:37.280 It's a real grind.

00:45:38.380 And these people put their lives on hold to go and do that sort of stuff because they're

00:45:41.500 taking it upon themselves.

00:45:42.380 And by and large, they're not doing it because they're career politicians.

00:45:45.100 I mean, a lot of these people are incredibly successful in their day job.

00:45:47.580 Eric Hovde is a very wealthy man.

00:45:49.540 Bernie Moreno is a very wealthy man.

00:45:51.540 Dave McCormick is a super wealthy guy.

00:45:52.920 These are people who have made it and they've decided they actually would like to give back

00:45:56.920 to the country by going and doing this sort of stuff.

00:45:59.920 So, you know, we should give them it should be hats off to a lot of these people.

00:46:03.560 I think we never think about that.

00:46:04.660 We hold them accountable.

00:46:05.540 We should hold them accountable.

00:46:07.020 They represent us and they're supposed to represent our values.

00:46:09.320 But these are people who legitimately take a better life and turn it in for a worse life

00:46:14.420 in order to make the country better.

00:46:16.580 And that, I think, requires us to take our hats off to them.

00:46:18.720 Plus, the American people just kick ass.

00:46:20.220 I got to tell you, like, being out on the trail with these people is really, really cool.

00:46:23.220 There's some really cool campaign experiences.

00:46:25.540 Pretty amazing.

00:46:26.360 I mean, really, really an amazing country, truly.

00:46:28.440 Like, one that stands out was with Bernie Moreno in northern Ohio.

00:46:32.580 And this was just kind of an amazing thing.

00:46:34.140 So, I was in northern Ohio with Bernie.

00:46:36.420 I speak.

00:46:36.980 It's like 1,000 people in maybe a town of 2,000 people total.

00:46:40.180 And 1,000 show up to this event.

00:46:42.000 And I get up and I give my talk.

00:46:43.600 Everybody has a good time.

00:46:45.000 And I'm about to take off.

00:46:46.260 And one of the people from the town gets up and says, we want to give you a present.

00:46:48.680 It's like, okay, well, you know, I've been to a lot of events where they give you a plaque

00:46:50.800 or they give you, like, a piece of paper or something.

00:46:52.940 And he said, no, here's an Israeli flag.

00:46:54.540 This Israeli flag, we're giving it to you.

00:46:56.420 Because on October 7th, one of us was so, like, the day of October 7th, was so upset

00:47:01.580 about that.

00:47:02.040 They took this giant Israeli flag, stuck it on the back of his Ford F-150 in a town that

00:47:05.640 has zero Jews, zero Jews in northern Ohio, and started driving it around the town in

00:47:09.520 solidarity with Jews and with Israel.

00:47:11.240 And people in the town were so moved that pretty much every member of the town signed the

00:47:15.140 flag.

00:47:15.420 So I have this flag signed by, like, a thousand evangelical Christians and Catholics in northern

00:47:21.400 Ohio, just in solidarity with Israel, with Jews.

00:47:25.660 Like, it's a great country.

00:47:27.940 This country is just, it's just effing fabulous.

00:47:30.800 It really is.

00:47:31.400 It's such a great country.

00:47:32.160 And that's why it's so hard to watch when it's threatened by people who don't share any

00:47:36.000 of those values and really think that Americans, that those exact people are the bitter clingers,

00:47:40.520 are the garbage, are the truly bad people, the bad guys in the story.

00:47:43.880 And it's just such trash.

00:47:45.200 It's not true.

00:47:45.780 And that's why, you know, Donald Trump being a middle finger to those people is the thing

00:47:49.340 that they deserve.

00:47:49.800 They deserve that middle finger.

00:47:50.900 They deserve it good and hard.

00:47:52.220 And I hope they're going to get it tonight.

00:47:53.660 Speaking of which, by the way, Loudoun County has hit, Loudoun County in Virginia just had

00:47:57.960 a nine-point swing right.

00:47:59.340 Wow.

00:47:59.860 Loudoun County.

00:48:00.440 Okay.

00:48:00.860 So people are showing up.

00:48:01.840 So keep showing up, folks.

00:48:02.800 Yeah, don't stop.

00:48:03.640 We have no idea how rare this is, I think.

00:48:06.620 I mean, that is what you just described would happen in no other country, not only currently in

00:48:10.720 the world, but in the history of the world.

00:48:12.940 There's not another country that would do that.

00:48:14.880 And so much of this garbage that gets thrown at these people about how nasty and hateful

00:48:20.800 they are comes from this place of utter ignorance.

00:48:23.520 I mean, deep, enforced, chosen ignorance and arrogance that the ignorance sort of abets.

00:48:29.520 It's because they don't want to think of themselves as worse than anyone ever.

00:48:35.040 They've chosen not to know about anyone else ever in the history of the world.

00:48:38.620 And so they look at people, you know, all of whom have their flaws and their foibles,

00:48:42.520 Americans included, and they think, you know, oh, these backwards, hateful hicks, they're

00:48:47.900 just, you know, spiteful Americans.

00:48:50.880 I challenge you to travel the world and find another country where that will happen, especially

00:48:56.260 with the Jewish flag.

00:48:58.060 And Selena Zito has that thing where she goes out and she talks to people and she found

00:49:01.880 that no one else had done it.

00:49:03.080 No one else had talked to them and seen the lives they live, which are interracial and completely

00:49:07.540 accepting of all different kinds of people.

00:49:09.660 And they just don't know.

00:49:10.480 It's unbelievable.

00:49:11.020 From like the whitest areas of Ohio down to, I was on the border with Senator Cruz on Sunday

00:49:14.800 night.

00:49:15.200 And it's like the Rio Grande Valley, which is totally Hispanic.

00:49:17.460 And everybody in the crowd is Hispanic.

00:49:18.820 Like they have the same values because those values are the values of America.

00:49:21.760 And the value is family, community, hard work, virtue.

00:49:25.600 Those are the values that built the country.

00:49:26.840 And leave us the hell alone.

00:49:28.020 Yeah.

00:49:28.220 Combined with all those things, right?

00:49:29.500 Autonomy.

00:49:30.020 We're now joined here at Daily Wire HQ by Brent Buchanan of Signal Polling, the most well-respected

00:49:34.560 polling outfit in America.

00:49:36.080 Welcome to the show, Brent.

00:49:37.160 Good to talk to you.

00:49:37.900 Hey, good to be here.

00:49:38.880 So let's talk about the situation in Georgia.

00:49:41.120 Obviously, you know, there's a danger for Republicans in getting high on their own supply.

00:49:44.260 You're kind of reading what's going on on Twitter.

00:49:46.180 What is sort of your overall early take on what you're seeing out of Georgia right now?

00:49:50.560 So there's a couple key counties to look at in Georgia.

00:49:53.520 I actually grew up in one of them, and that is Fayette County here.

00:49:57.640 And in 2016, Trump won this county by 21 points.

00:50:02.320 He only won it by seven in 2020.

00:50:05.940 And with 75% reporting, he's only up by two.

00:50:09.220 So when you're looking at a county like this, you're basically extrapolating this to, quote,

00:50:14.980 the suburbs.

00:50:15.940 Because this is on the south side of Atlanta, but it's, you know, a good 30 minutes outside

00:50:20.540 of Atlanta.

00:50:21.500 But then you compare that to Baldwin County, Georgia, which in 2016, Trump lost it to Clinton

00:50:28.360 by two.

00:50:29.380 He lost it to Biden by one.

00:50:30.920 Brian Kemp won it by seven.

00:50:33.360 And currently, Trump is plus six with 79% reporting.

00:50:37.600 So you start to see where you have these conflicting data points, some that are good for Trump, some

00:50:42.000 that are good for Kamala Harris.

00:50:45.020 What's interesting is that the Georgia rurals are coming in pretty heavily Democratic on

00:50:51.240 Election Day voting, meaning that the people who turned up on Election Day to vote in the

00:50:56.060 rural counties in Georgia are more Democratic than they normally would have been.

00:51:00.180 And then when you look at some of the performance of the black counties, if the county is about

00:51:06.420 mid-sized, it's performing pretty much like it did in 2020 right now.

00:51:11.760 And in the really heavy black counties, you're seeing actually a Trump underperformance.

00:51:16.500 So it's kind of a mixed bag right now in Georgia.

00:51:19.320 We're really early at this point.

00:51:21.060 I think there's only 9% or 10% reporting.

00:51:23.700 But the exit polls, take that for what it's worth, do show some signs of hope for Trump.

00:51:30.020 So when you look at all that, I know we're asking you now to project out into the future.

00:51:34.940 What are the indicators that you're going to look for as the vote starts to come in that's

00:51:38.940 going to give you a better idea of the picture that's emerging from this kind of chaotic data?

00:51:43.140 Well, we're definitely going to want to see what the northern arc counties, so Cobb, Gwinnett,

00:51:48.720 Fulton County, kind of the north end of Atlanta.

00:51:51.160 Those are the things you're going to be looking for.

00:51:53.080 As of right now, none of those have reported.

00:51:55.780 And then we're going to continue to watch what the rural counties have done.

00:51:58.480 Because if you look in some other places like Indiana and Kentucky that have already reported

00:52:04.060 a lot of counties, the rurals are actually up in those places about 1% or 2% above their

00:52:09.580 2020 turnout percentages.

00:52:12.180 The question is, are the suburban counties and are the urban counties at or above 2020

00:52:16.960 turnout?

00:52:18.260 And we just don't have enough data in yet to answer that question.

00:52:20.780 So, I mean, that seems like a lot of the election is going to come down to precisely that

00:52:23.700 question, not just in Georgia, but all over the country, right?

00:52:25.720 Is the suburban vote up?

00:52:27.260 Is the rural vote down?

00:52:29.120 Given what you're seeing in some of the other states, so Florida, for what it's worth, was

00:52:33.020 just called.

00:52:34.180 Trump is just blowing it out in Florida because Florida has turned into a deep red state just

00:52:38.760 over the course of the last couple of election cycles.

00:52:41.140 You know, there is this idea that there are these bellwether counties.

00:52:44.060 How much stock do you take in the idea that there are bellwether counties where you can

00:52:47.440 look at a county and then extrapolate that out nationally or to other swing states?

00:52:50.820 I think once we have 100% of the vote in on a, quote, bellwether county, we can extrapolate

00:52:55.440 it.

00:52:55.920 But so far, there's not many in the country where we have 100% reporting yet.

00:53:00.000 But if you look at Osceola County as an example in Florida, that's north of Orlando.

00:53:05.720 It has, I believe, the highest percentage of Puerto Rican population as a percentage of

00:53:10.580 the whole of the county.

00:53:11.840 And it moved even further right.

00:53:14.200 Miami-Dade continued this march to the right.

00:53:16.980 One thing also to keep in mind about Florida is the fact that it has about a million more

00:53:22.960 Republicans registered now because of the pandemic.

00:53:26.980 And so it's to your point, it is no longer a purple or a swing state.

00:53:32.040 It is 100% a red state now, especially with those trends.

00:53:35.860 Yeah, it looks like speaking again, I'm just going to keep mentioning because it's awesome.

00:53:38.820 Amendments three and amendments for both likely to be dead in Florida.

00:53:42.220 Those are both trash.

00:53:43.080 Excellent.

00:53:43.360 Which means basically permanent Republican rule forever for the rest of time.

00:53:48.300 Thousand year reign of Ron DeSantis in Florida.

00:53:50.720 So that's really good.

00:53:52.460 Well, I did want to ask you, Brent, about this sort of amazing statistic that Loudoun County

00:53:57.760 in Virginia has moved really toward Trump a lot.

00:54:01.760 What does that mean?

00:54:02.420 You know, for not close washers of politics, you hear Loudoun County a lot because obviously

00:54:06.020 it came up a lot in the gubernatorial race between Glenn Youngkin and Terry McAuliffe.

00:54:09.200 What does that mean if Loudoun County moved right from the last election cycle?

00:54:13.080 So it moved right because you're seeing a depression of Democrat turnout there.

00:54:16.840 Not because it has the same number of people who voted and they shifted their votes.

00:54:21.480 So that's definitely something to watch is what is that Democrat to Republican turnout

00:54:25.520 ratio compared to the historical?

00:54:28.300 Virginia in general is actually having a higher election day turnout as a percentage of total

00:54:33.560 votes than they have had in the past.

00:54:35.780 And they also count, the way Virginia goes is they count early votes first and then they

00:54:40.280 report election day votes after that.

00:54:42.160 So I would expect to see that the dim turnout in that county goes up some, but Loudoun County

00:54:47.980 is actually 11% Indian, Asian, American population.

00:54:52.860 And so if that holds and Trump is doing better in a county like that, it's going to be very

00:54:59.020 indicative of some of these Sunbelt metro areas that have high Indian populations.

00:55:04.440 And if she can't juice them in Loudoun County outside of Washington, D.C., she's going to have

00:55:08.720 trouble doing that in Atlanta, in Phoenix, and in some of these other, Raleigh, Durham is another

00:55:15.000 one that has high Indian populations.

00:55:17.360 So Brent, obviously we're super early in the night.

00:55:19.680 Can you give us just like a quick preview into what sort of things you're going to be seeing

00:55:23.220 over the next hour?

00:55:23.680 What are you looking for in the next hour?

00:55:25.100 Which areas, which polls are closing and what's going to come out?

00:55:28.260 Yeah, we're going to learn a lot from North Carolina and Georgia because they're on the

00:55:32.240 East Coast and they're going to report earlier.

00:55:35.700 They're going to report more often and we're going to know who won those earliest.

00:55:40.640 And so a lot of these counties that we're watching, like Fayette, as an example, in Georgia,

00:55:44.700 that was very heavily Trump and has been slowly less Trump over time, once that gets to 100%

00:55:51.820 reporting, where does Trump stand?

00:55:53.820 And that'll give us a really good idea of what some of these swing state suburban counties

00:55:58.060 are looking like.

00:55:58.880 But what we're seeing overall is that turnout is likely to exceed 2020.

00:56:03.740 Wow.

00:56:04.000 Which a lot of people said that if we even got to that point, that it would be historic.

00:56:08.800 And so we really find ourself in this place where under 2020 turnout, it's 100% Trump win.

00:56:14.720 At 2020 turnout, a little bit of a Harris advantage.

00:56:18.200 You get above 2020 turnout and we're in unprecedented territory, which it's kind of hard to see who

00:56:24.200 that gives an advantage to until we start to see some of this urban, rural, suburban turnout

00:56:28.920 differential above.

00:56:29.940 How high each of them go above 2020?

00:56:32.160 Well, it's Brent Buchanan.

00:56:33.360 We're going to be back with you in just a little while and keep these updates going.

00:56:36.860 Our election map coverage this evening is possible, is made possible by our sponsor, Lumen.

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00:56:46.020 Can we, uh...

00:56:47.320 First of all, that wasn't positive enough.

00:56:49.320 So if we could not go back to him again, that'd be great.

00:56:50.980 But Florida, we talked about how great Florida is because it's deep red and all that.

00:56:57.120 Also, they're going to have all their votes counted, like, soon.

00:57:00.840 And this is the third, I think the third most populated state in the country.

00:57:05.520 And so it's just like, there's no excuse why every other state in the country can't count

00:57:09.860 all their votes if Florida can.

00:57:11.140 There is an excuse.

00:57:12.360 Florida is able to count their votes so quickly because Jeb Bush was their governor for eight

00:57:17.520 years, and then Ron DeSantis has been their governor for, what, the last six years.

00:57:22.560 And as it turns out, Republicans can figure out how to run elections.

00:57:27.580 Democrats in swing states cannot figure out how to run elections, almost as though Democrats

00:57:33.180 in swing states are incentivized not to figure out their elections.

00:57:37.200 You know, there's a lot of talk about how we shouldn't have voting machines.

00:57:40.160 And I remember when I used my first voting machine in California, you would make your selections,

00:57:45.540 and then the printout would happen, and the printout was a sort of dot matrix barcode sort

00:57:50.080 of situation.

00:57:50.880 You had no way of knowing what the printout said.

00:57:53.960 And so, again, as we discussed earlier, there's at least the opportunity for evil, at least the

00:57:59.420 appearance of evil.

00:58:00.740 I used a machine here in Tennessee to vote.

00:58:02.960 First of all, Tennessee has an amazing election.

00:58:05.180 The ballot was basically three pages, not one of these 75-page monstrosities.

00:58:10.080 There were three pages worth of things to vote on.

00:58:12.740 So it was super easy, right?

00:58:15.020 Like, Donald Trump, Marshall Blackburn, don't raise my taxes, and then hit print.

00:58:19.020 And when you hit print, it prints out the ballot for you to turn in.

00:58:23.560 And you can look at the ballot and see where it printed all of your selections.

00:58:26.520 Right there on the ballot in dot matrix, Inc.

00:58:29.000 It said, Donald Trump, Marshall Blackburn, don't raise my freaking taxes and stop asking me.

00:58:34.120 And then I went over and turned it in.

00:58:35.420 So there was no opportunity, even with an electronic system, there was no opportunity for impropriety.

00:58:40.320 The electronic system was just a different way of arriving at a printed ballot that could

00:58:45.120 be read by a human.

00:58:46.680 But it's not only...

00:58:47.100 Again, there's no reason why any state in America can't be doing that.

00:58:50.160 But it's not only red states.

00:58:51.520 It's every other country on earth that has free, legal, democratic voting.

00:58:56.120 They all count their votes.

00:58:56.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:58:57.280 I said...

00:58:57.700 And they get it right.

00:58:58.220 What part of Democrat-controlled swing state did you confuse with three countries that

00:59:03.920 run democratic elections?

00:59:04.960 You know, I have to say, I'm watching the vote in Virginia, and it's close.

00:59:12.780 You know, it's 32% of the vote is in, 47 to Donald Trump has, 51.1 is Kamala Harris.

00:59:22.420 And there's still the counties that are open are right in the middle of the state.

00:59:25.620 And, you know, it's like, you know, Katie Gorka, who is both the brains and beauty of

00:59:30.860 the Gorka organization, is working very hard in Fairfax County and doing just an amazing

00:59:36.720 job, even though she knows the county will be lost.

00:59:39.260 She believes if she can bring out enough people, that will, you know, obviously feed

00:59:43.060 into a Trump victory.

00:59:44.700 You know, they have done a lot of stuff, including go to the Supreme Court, to make sure the integrity

00:59:50.940 is good.

00:59:51.360 I voted in the bluest of the blue parts of the state.

00:59:55.040 I thought, I felt very secure.

00:59:56.980 I felt the election was being very well run.

00:59:59.020 You know, there's absolutely no question of identity or anything like that.

01:00:02.500 It was really well done.

01:00:04.160 And, gee, now he's like three points.

01:00:06.240 No, it's still four.

01:00:07.380 Just about four.

01:00:09.020 I don't know.

01:00:10.060 I will not be bowled over if the state that elected Glenn Youngkin, the moment I arrived,

01:00:16.420 has now become...

01:00:17.240 Not that you're taking credit of me.

01:00:18.220 I know, I am.

01:00:19.080 No, no, that's exactly what I'm doing.

01:00:20.080 Well, in fairness, our very own Matt Walsh and our very own, who's our wonderful reporter

01:00:28.080 who broke the loudest...

01:00:29.520 No, it's just me.

01:00:30.120 Don't worry about it.

01:00:30.720 No, no, no.

01:00:31.320 Luke Rosiak.

01:00:31.800 Luke Rosiak.

01:00:32.720 Goodness, we've been on the air only two hours.

01:00:35.020 Yeah, Luke Rosiak actually is the reason that Florida became a potentially red state.

01:00:40.060 But yeah, listen, as has been said all night, the polls were so close going into this race

01:00:45.400 that an error in either direction could result in a very wild swing.

01:00:50.040 Yeah.

01:00:50.420 And it, you know, it's very early yet.

01:00:53.400 And we should keep in mind that in many of these states, the system is sort of rigged

01:00:57.060 to look like it is rigged.

01:00:58.880 By that, I mean they tend to count in-person votes first, which tend to be more likely Republican.

01:01:04.340 And then after that, they start bringing in the early and absentee mail-in ballots, which

01:01:09.760 tend historically to be blue.

01:01:12.020 And so you end up in this situation where it looks like we're winning, and then they

01:01:15.300 suddenly discover all the ballots, even if that's not actually what happens, which again

01:01:19.560 gives the appearance of evil and the opportunity for evil.

01:01:23.560 Something about this election that makes it so hard, I'm sure for the pollsters, who are

01:01:27.580 all being risk-averse and basically saying, oh, it's a coin toss, don't yell at me.

01:01:31.380 But something that makes it really difficult to model out this election for anyone is that

01:01:36.240 they changed all the rules last time.

01:01:38.340 So in order to be able to model out elections, you have to have precedent to base it on.

01:01:42.600 And we really don't have precedent anymore.

01:01:44.800 And this election is being conducted differently even than 2020.

01:01:48.080 So for instance, early voting and mail-in voting usually gives a big advantage to Democrats.

01:01:55.360 This year, looking at early voting out of Nevada, that's actually not what it showed.

01:01:58.860 It's the opposite.

01:01:59.420 So we really just don't know, which is unpleasant for pundits and pollsters to say.

01:02:06.000 But we do know this.

01:02:06.720 I mean, one of the, maybe the only case that I thought should have been adjudicated was

01:02:13.340 the case in Pennsylvania where they changed the rules against their own constitution.

01:02:17.120 And Clarence Thomas agreed with me, and he's a pretty bright legal mind.

01:02:20.680 You know, not like me, but I saw it very...

01:02:22.420 He's up there.

01:02:23.020 Yeah, he's up there.

01:02:24.340 And I think that the GOP has been much more on top of that leading up to it.

01:02:31.360 I mean, as many people have said, you know, it's easier to put a car together before it

01:02:35.220 falls off a cliff.

01:02:35.940 And I think that that was what they were doing after the last election.

01:02:38.780 And I think the GOP needs some praise there for actually paying attention, manning the

01:02:43.200 barricades, making sure the legal eyes were dotted.

01:02:46.440 And I think that's really happened to some degree.

01:02:47.860 I'll add, too, I spoke to hundreds of voters in states like Georgia and in Michigan and

01:02:53.560 Pennsylvania.

01:02:54.540 And one of the questions I asked all of them was, how do you feel about your vote this

01:02:58.180 year?

01:02:58.400 How do you feel about the integrity of this election?

01:03:00.500 And I can't tell you how many of them brought up the fact that the RNC and that Donald Trump

01:03:04.280 were pouring resources in to having poll watchers.

01:03:07.120 And that message is trickling down to the average voter, where you might think there'd

01:03:11.240 be a fear of them saying, well, if you really think that the election was right last time,

01:03:14.580 why would you vote this time?

01:03:15.540 But that messaging from the top, they are aware on the ground that the RNC has invested

01:03:20.180 so many resources into this.

01:03:21.820 And I do think that contributes to, you know, higher turnout than we might have seen.

01:03:25.420 Let me ask you a question.

01:03:26.080 You go out and you interview voters.

01:03:28.420 Do you think you're getting random selections of voting?

01:03:32.000 We try our best.

01:03:32.740 So in all the states I went to, we would go to different grocery stores, gas stations.

01:03:36.320 Just walk in.

01:03:37.160 Walk around in different counties.

01:03:39.280 So I'd pull up data from different counties in 2020, and we'd try and get as representative

01:03:43.160 a sample as possible.

01:03:45.200 And to our conversation about the polls, like why it's so difficult to get an accurate

01:03:49.540 representation, I think that even after eight years, you might get this idea that, oh, well,

01:03:54.880 the silent Trump voter doesn't really exist.

01:03:56.500 It's become so normalized.

01:03:57.860 They're still out there.

01:03:58.540 They're still talking.

01:03:59.480 You know, they're much more confident now.

01:04:01.480 I actually got to the point after all these interviews where I could tell who someone was

01:04:05.520 voting for based on how they shot me down when I requested an interview.

01:04:08.680 So about two-thirds of people wouldn't talk to me.

01:04:10.980 I'm just very intimidating and manly.

01:04:12.500 I'd walk up to a parking lot.

01:04:14.220 Two-thirds would say no.

01:04:15.180 But I'd still ask all those people, well, who are you voting for?

01:04:17.400 And most would tell me.

01:04:18.740 The people who initially said, oh, I'm in a rush or I can't talk.

01:04:23.500 Those were mostly Harris voters.

01:04:25.520 The people who said, I don't want to talk to you.

01:04:27.700 You're a media person.

01:04:29.140 Or I don't want to talk on camera.

01:04:31.100 And those people were overwhelmingly for Trump.

01:04:34.080 I had an 80-year-old lady who accosted our camera guy, making sure that the camera was off.

01:04:38.660 And then she said, okay, it's off.

01:04:40.280 I'm voting for Trump.

01:04:41.140 I had people mouth the word Trump to me.

01:04:43.560 They wouldn't even say it out loud.

01:04:45.420 And these were in fairly red areas in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

01:04:49.320 And so I do think there is still a sizable chunk of people who would not, with a gun to their head,

01:04:53.880 tell a pollster who they're voting for.

01:04:55.560 And that's the question.

01:04:56.100 Have the pollsters figured a way around that?

01:04:57.600 Not right.

01:04:57.920 Trump is now within 2% in Virginia, with 36% in.

01:05:03.580 I'm not a poll reader.

01:05:05.140 I don't actually, you know, I look at the RCP things.

01:05:08.400 But that's pretty close.

01:05:10.100 Yeah, not to belabor the point, but Florida has 88% of their votes counted.

01:05:15.760 Pennsylvania has 7%.

01:05:17.360 Right.

01:05:18.040 It's just, there's no excuse for that.

01:05:19.340 That's outrageous.

01:05:20.300 No, but Florida's on the East Coast.

01:05:22.220 Right, that's true.

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01:05:41.920 That's true.

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01:07:07.960 So results are starting to come in.

01:07:09.680 We're starting to get some data.

01:07:11.340 And as we've heard, a lot of the data is conflicting, but there's every reason for a certain amount of cautious optimism.

01:07:16.900 I stepped out a bit ago, and we have a wonderful party taking place immediately outside the studio

01:07:22.120 where a lot of our friends of the Daily Wire, people who live here in Tennessee, some of our family,

01:07:27.680 even some influencers who came in from around the country, are together, having camaraderie, watching the results.

01:07:34.060 And someone asked me, you know, how are you feeling?

01:07:36.280 And I said, well, I'm not feeling sanguine.

01:07:38.380 You know, I don't.

01:07:38.920 No.

01:07:39.560 That would you be crazy.

01:07:40.420 I'm not crazy.

01:07:41.700 Also, I think one of the reasons that we've been able to be successful in business is because, as a general rule,

01:07:47.100 I always take the position that we're a point behind.

01:07:50.160 Yeah.

01:07:50.540 In every success, I'm the wrong guy to have in the room.

01:07:53.760 Sometimes they'll come to me and they'll say, hey, we really need you to give a pep talk to the team.

01:07:58.500 And my pep talk always goes something like, you know, we could have done better.

01:08:03.280 But we did do something good.

01:08:04.580 So, I'm not one generally for being overly optimistic, but I do think there's conscious optimism.

01:08:10.320 So, they're out there.

01:08:11.120 They're drinking Maga-ritas, I just saw.

01:08:13.860 And so, then I was wondering, if Trump does win, I think I will have a glass of the scotch that Matt has here.

01:08:20.000 And if Trump loses, I think I will drink gasoline.

01:08:22.620 I don't know if we have that.

01:08:24.300 All right.

01:08:24.860 So, here's my vow, then.

01:08:27.060 If Trump wins, I will drink anything you give me.

01:08:32.300 All right.

01:08:33.120 Which is more than I have drunk in 50 years.

01:08:36.220 I love tobacco.

01:08:37.820 I don't like alcohol.

01:08:39.620 I will drink.

01:08:40.320 You will raise a glass.

01:08:41.580 There's no question about it.

01:08:43.680 You know, it's funny.

01:08:46.000 Another moment of levity.

01:08:47.580 I said after 2016, for years, in speeches, on the radio, that the night Trump won might have been the happiest night of my life.

01:09:02.580 And I would add, including the birth of my two sons.

01:09:06.000 So, the left went ballistic.

01:09:10.580 The left went, Prager is so evil that he was happier when Trump won than when his own sons were born.

01:09:18.580 Have you told your sons this?

01:09:19.800 Oh, they think it's a riot.

01:09:22.060 They tend to believe it.

01:09:23.340 You know, this may have been covered while I was out, but I'm only just now seeing that West Virginia Governor Jim Justice won his state Senate race, which is the first flip of a seat for the GOP.

01:09:36.200 We've been talking about how important it is that we hold the Senate.

01:09:40.400 Whether the result of the presidential election goes our way or not, the Senate is of vital importance, either for stymieing the Harris agenda or advancing the Trump agenda.

01:09:52.820 So, picking up a seat in West Virginia with Jim Justice is a great step.

01:09:57.200 You know, had we lost that seat, we could all go home.

01:10:01.220 That was the seat we really had.

01:10:03.140 It was a guarantee.

01:10:03.720 Is there a state that you guys, who I do believe are more expertise in the political realm, have more expertise, is there a state, I mean, don't say California or New York, I mean, a real, a possible state, that if you learned now, went for Trump.

01:10:21.720 Virginia.

01:10:22.720 That would be it?

01:10:23.460 Yeah.

01:10:23.780 It would be, for all of you, Virginia?

01:10:26.080 Certainly, if he won Virginia, I think we could go home.

01:10:28.620 I will.

01:10:28.900 We could have that.

01:10:29.300 All right, all right.

01:10:29.860 I will say that I was just at the Daily Wire party, as I said, and our dear friend Siaka, a.k.a. Black Jeremy, did tell me he thinks there's a chance New York goes for Trump.

01:10:40.500 So, I don't want you to think that no one is sanguine.

01:10:43.460 Yes.

01:10:43.720 I think that—

01:10:44.560 There is a certain amount of sanguineity.

01:10:46.660 It's now, in Virginia, it's now 48.5 for Trump, 49.8 for Kamala Harris, with the poll, 37 percent of the votes coming.

01:10:54.080 I just want to say, I think we can go home now.

01:10:56.780 In general.

01:10:57.660 You know, there's also—we were talking a little bit about—

01:11:00.080 Go home and watch the coverage at home.

01:11:01.840 Go to sleep or anything like that.

01:11:03.300 But what we were talking about with some of the Senate races, there are some real opportunities.

01:11:09.020 Oh, yeah.

01:11:09.360 I mean, Wisconsin, look, that's going to depend a little bit on the top of the ticket, too.

01:11:13.480 But Eric Hovde's run a good campaign there.

01:11:16.280 I feel good about Bernie Moreno in Ohio.

01:11:19.760 I even feel pretty good about Mike Rogers in Michigan.

01:11:23.020 I'm not saying I feel—the odds are still stacked against him in Michigan, but he's got a real shot.

01:11:28.480 You think Sherrod Brown could lose?

01:11:30.480 I think that Bernie Moreno has run a great Republican campaign.

01:11:34.200 I think that there is a chance that Sherrod Brown loses.

01:11:37.320 I'm not saying I would put money on that.

01:11:38.820 I would put more money on Hovde than I would on Moreno.

01:11:42.800 But I think he's run a good campaign.

01:11:44.260 And I think Rogers, for that matter.

01:11:45.940 You know, Michigan has trended a little bit blue.

01:11:48.100 But I think Mike Rogers has run a good campaign.

01:11:49.560 Michael, I have to say, to that point, the Rogers-Slocking race, I saw an all-time troll billboard in this race.

01:11:55.640 I was in Dearborn last week.

01:11:57.000 Like, you know, all around, every single sign is in Arabic.

01:12:00.420 And there's all the flags from the Eastern countries.

01:12:02.820 In the heart of Dearborn is a giant billboard with a picture of Kamala Harris and Slotkin and an Israeli flag.

01:12:10.960 And it says, Kamala and Slotkin, always friends of Israel.

01:12:15.260 And it looks like a Harris ad.

01:12:17.960 And the bottom says something like, you know, paid for by friends of Harris.

01:12:20.200 And it says, these women have always and always will stand with Israel.

01:12:23.220 Right?

01:12:23.660 In the heart of Dearborn.

01:12:24.740 Wow.

01:12:25.480 And I saw it and initially thought, does the Harris campaign have the worst strategy ever on where they put their billboards?

01:12:30.840 And I looked it up later, and it was a Republican pack.

01:12:34.120 You know, just to add to Matt's, keep his mood up because he gets depressed.

01:12:38.260 It's ugly, you know.

01:12:38.960 But my friend Jeff Anderson of the American Main Street Initiative, he was one of Trump's chief statisticians when he was in office.

01:12:47.940 And we've been talking every Sunday, basically.

01:12:50.280 And he's been saying, oh, well, I don't know.

01:12:52.380 And tonight he said his prediction is that Trump has a 55% chance of winning the election.

01:12:57.260 He's a very good poll watcher and quite has not been optimistic.

01:13:02.600 He's been very neutral.

01:13:03.360 By my math, though, Drew, I'm not a poll watcher either.

01:13:05.880 That means that Trump has a 45% chance of losing.

01:13:08.760 I don't like that.

01:13:09.760 I like the 55%.

01:13:11.240 However, it's now virtually tied in Virginia.

01:13:13.580 I don't even know what I'm looking at, but it's virtually tied.

01:13:15.380 It is now 49.18 to 49%.

01:13:17.280 And do you think four years ago at this point it would have been different?

01:13:22.920 Well, you know.

01:13:23.740 Andrew, do you know how to work this laptop?

01:13:25.660 Is it in a wrong county or something?

01:13:27.860 It's the New York Times.

01:13:29.020 I went to the first liberal place.

01:13:30.560 Virginia's tied at the moment.

01:13:31.540 Yeah, and I'm looking at the most blue states, blue districts are in.

01:13:37.980 I am projecting Trump to win Virginia.

01:13:41.180 I'm projecting.

01:13:42.160 Have you declared it?

01:13:43.980 I'm declaring it right now.

01:13:45.120 I'm calling it.

01:13:46.260 I'm projecting optimism.

01:13:47.640 You can't call, but I just like you declaring it.

01:13:49.540 Yeah.

01:13:52.460 I don't know.

01:13:54.760 Dennis, what's the answer for you?

01:13:55.980 Is there a state that if it goes blue or if it goes red, you think that's over?

01:13:58.980 No, there isn't.

01:13:59.960 I really, I know what I know and I don't, I know what I don't know, which is a gift in

01:14:06.400 life if anyone could achieve that.

01:14:08.820 So I, my read, my inclination is always the forest, not the trees.

01:14:17.100 Yes.

01:14:17.360 So I, I do believe I understand the currents shaping the West in general and America specifically.

01:14:24.400 But the question of what state will do what or what state matters to make the call that

01:14:31.200 I, I asked it to you, not because I have one in mind.

01:14:36.120 I really wanted to know if you had one in mind, because then I'll watch that state avidly.

01:14:41.800 So, and you all seem, or at least the majority seem to say Virginia.

01:14:46.240 But that, because that's such a reach.

01:14:48.220 I mean, if, if, if Wisconsin came in and Trump won Wisconsin and we took the Senate seat and

01:14:54.380 that would, that, that I think is more realistic and I would feel really good going into the

01:14:59.640 rest of the night.

01:15:01.060 On the, on the other side of that, if Donald Trump loses North Carolina, it isn't impossible

01:15:07.580 for him to win the presidency.

01:15:08.760 But I think that it would be almost impossible.

01:15:11.860 Not, not even necessarily because of the electoral math, but because it's indicative.

01:15:17.980 It would be, it would be indicative.

01:15:19.120 That would be a terrible thing for us to see early in the evening.

01:15:21.640 So is North Carolina determined by Raleigh-Durham?

01:15:25.980 Because I don't know what else, what, what am I missing?

01:15:29.980 Mecklenburg County.

01:15:31.120 Oh, wait.

01:15:31.780 University in North Carolina, Chapel Hill.

01:15:34.080 So right, Chapel Hill, is that what it's called?

01:15:36.560 So it's all, the big university towns are, have been poisoned by the university.

01:15:41.500 It's all that little triangle, right?

01:15:42.840 You know, Chapel Hill and Raleigh.

01:15:44.000 Oh, so that's a triangle.

01:15:44.960 So that's it basically.

01:15:46.200 Because I can't imagine the rest of North Carolina is Democrat.

01:15:49.700 What do you think about it, Cabot?

01:15:51.420 Well, I think, yeah, Mecklenburg County is another big one there to watch where Charlotte

01:15:55.800 is.

01:15:56.140 But I agree with you that I think from an electoral standpoint, you can pick up 16 electoral votes

01:16:01.240 with Nevada and Arizona, which you could well do, or Georgia's 16 as well as North Carolina.

01:16:05.100 But it's more about what it would mean and the indication.

01:16:09.920 And the black vote there is another one that I think is interesting to keep an eye on.

01:16:14.180 They have the eighth highest rate of black voters in the entire country, Georgia's third.

01:16:18.600 So I'm interested to see the turnout of black men in Georgia and the Atlanta area compared

01:16:23.320 to North Carolina.

01:16:24.460 Also, North Carolina, sorry, just before we go off North Carolina, another reason why

01:16:29.580 that'd be a bad sign is that, you know, and we moved on from it in like 45 seconds,

01:16:34.640 like we do from everything.

01:16:35.800 But in North Carolina, that's where the Biden-Harris administration had their Hurricane Katrina

01:16:41.200 moment.

01:16:41.980 That's correct.

01:16:42.680 And if there's no price to pay for that at all, like for George Bush, that was a major

01:16:48.860 scandal that lasted months and months.

01:16:50.100 We still remember it.

01:16:51.200 And if there's just no price to pay for that, that you could have that kind of devastation

01:16:57.220 in American communities or basically abandoned by the federal government.

01:16:59.900 Yes.

01:17:00.120 If there's no price, then what do we have?

01:17:01.800 Okay.

01:17:02.300 If there is no price, it reinforces the point I made two hours ago when I was on.

01:17:09.580 And that is the ability of the press to brainwash even in a free society, which was revelatory

01:17:16.040 to me because my field of study was Soviet affairs.

01:17:18.760 I learned Russian to read Pravda, the communist paper.

01:17:21.900 And it was a given to me that you could only brainwash people in a tyranny.

01:17:28.080 It is now not true.

01:17:29.840 I know for a fact you can brainwash people in a free society.

01:17:33.540 The fact that the press made a big deal about Katrina and nothing about this shows you how

01:17:39.840 profoundly the press will influence people even when it happens to them.

01:17:44.820 And the press defines, it's eerie, the press defines reality for the people who lived the

01:17:52.100 reality, not just for the people in other states that didn't have a storm.

01:17:57.800 It's a very scary part of human nature.

01:18:01.140 A little interruption for some results out of Georgia.

01:18:04.340 It continues to trend in Trump's favor right now.

01:18:07.860 So we've got 55-44 for Trump.

01:18:12.240 That's with 54% of the votes in.

01:18:14.780 I believe an hour ago, Decision Desk HQ, our partners here, gave Trump something like a

01:18:21.380 69% chance of winning Georgia.

01:18:23.640 That continues to hold pretty strong.

01:18:26.400 If Trump pulls Georgia, the night's on track.

01:18:31.060 The night is on track.

01:18:31.440 He's in the fight.

01:18:32.040 Yeah.

01:18:32.140 And North Carolina right now actually trending in Harris's direction, 51-47.

01:18:36.440 But that's only with just over 10% report.

01:18:39.600 I mean, they're just getting started in North Carolina.

01:18:42.080 Trump's now ahead in Virginia, but the Times is saying that they believe that race leans

01:18:46.040 toward Harris because of the remaining votes favor him.

01:18:49.120 Matt, to your point about North Carolina and the devastation there, I was on the ground

01:18:52.360 two weeks ago in Swannanoa, Asheville, the surrounding communities there.

01:18:57.400 The devastation, I mean, still, a month and a half later, most Americans have forgotten

01:19:00.620 about it, and the federal government also seems to have in many ways.

01:19:03.480 But the amount of people I talked to on the ground there about the election,

01:19:06.180 and these were in very red areas, Asheville, obviously very liberal, but the surrounding

01:19:09.240 counties, those are some of the reddest in the entire state.

01:19:12.180 None of them had even thought about the election.

01:19:14.300 And this was two weeks ago.

01:19:15.040 When I asked them, hey, do you know if your polling location's damaged?

01:19:17.780 Are you going to be able to go vote?

01:19:19.560 They were all like, oh, I forgot that there's even an election going on.

01:19:23.020 And so I'll be very interested to see what the voter turnout looks like in those counties,

01:19:27.240 not necessarily because they aren't able physically to vote, because I did hear on the ground

01:19:32.060 from a number of Republican officials that they were getting the voting centers operational,

01:19:36.560 but that they're so devastated by other things that it's just the last thing on their mind

01:19:41.000 right now.

01:19:42.180 And is it still, the area still looks like a disaster zone, or what does it look like?

01:19:46.280 Yes, it was a disaster zone in entire communities.

01:19:48.800 It looked like a nuclear bomb had gone off.

01:19:52.660 So right now, it's still, they were just wrapping up the recovery of bodies when I was there.

01:19:58.060 So I went out with a team of cadaver dogs, with a group of veterans there.

01:20:01.760 But the...

01:20:02.780 Do the people have any resentment towards the federal government, or how do they feel?

01:20:06.860 I expected that there would be more, to be totally honest.

01:20:09.300 I expected there would be more when I got there.

01:20:11.240 And anytime I brought up their opinion of the federal government or their opinion of the

01:20:14.880 Biden-Harris administration, they, with the exception of one or two people, they just

01:20:19.480 said, I don't want to talk about politics right now.

01:20:21.460 They said, I lost my neighbor, or my house got destroyed.

01:20:25.000 I don't want to talk about politics.

01:20:26.200 And so there might be that resentment there, and that might be in other areas.

01:20:31.080 But for the people who were actually hit, I didn't get the sense that they were thinking

01:20:35.360 about the political aspect of it.

01:20:36.620 Although I will say, I talked to a number of victims who said it was five or six days before

01:20:40.600 they met a single government aid worker, and that the only people helping them, it was

01:20:44.720 the Redneck Air Force that I was embedded with for a day, veterans who just flew out Chinook

01:20:49.120 helicopters that were private to run recovery missions.

01:20:52.660 Those were the people that were on the ground first.

01:20:54.340 And remember how Bush was excoriated because he only flew over New Orleans at first?

01:20:58.480 Like, Biden didn't show up at all, I don't think.

01:21:01.580 And Kamala did that ridiculous, you know, camera.

01:21:04.580 Which, by the way, flying over it is a totally sensible thing to do.

01:21:09.340 What do you want to do?

01:21:09.940 Rappel down into the middle of the flood zone.

01:21:12.280 But Kamala, right.

01:21:13.020 Kamala made no attempt to even pretend to care.

01:21:15.540 So some numbers also coming out from the New York Times.

01:21:18.400 My favorite thing to do on election night is to look at the liberal websites and outlets.

01:21:25.140 So right now, the Times says it's still a toss-up, obviously, but it's estimating Trump 279,

01:21:32.920 Harris 259.

01:21:35.140 The New York Times is giving Trump a 59% chance of winning, Harris a 41% chance.

01:21:39.460 What matters here is that it's trending in Trump's direction.

01:21:42.740 So it's breaking away.

01:21:44.720 The New York Times is predicting a Trump victory?

01:21:47.040 Yes.

01:21:47.460 Though it says it's a toss-up, but they're giving a clear, a decisive chance.

01:21:50.460 Did I have something to drink now?

01:21:52.020 I know.

01:21:52.480 We're getting close.

01:21:53.360 I really want to know.

01:21:53.980 You drink whatever we give you, right?

01:21:55.580 That's right.

01:21:56.080 I told you that.

01:21:56.600 No, no, absolutely.

01:21:57.560 You can hold me to it.

01:21:58.540 I really want to know why he stopped drinking before we take him up.

01:22:03.740 I've just become so violent when I would sit on a table at the bell.

01:22:07.580 Even my friends, I attack them with them.

01:22:09.580 So you've never had a Jaeger bomb.

01:22:11.900 Maybe we'll...

01:22:12.600 You're right.

01:22:13.020 I don't know what it is.

01:22:14.480 We have that at the bar.

01:22:14.980 Don't ask any questions.

01:22:16.020 We'll...

01:22:16.580 I was wondering why everybody at the party is naked now.

01:22:19.460 So I want to take a few questions from our Daily Wire Plus members.

01:22:26.900 The first one here, Drew, I'll ask this one of you.

01:22:29.880 If Kamala loses, does she 25th Amendment Biden and become president for the remaining three

01:22:35.040 months of his term?

01:22:35.780 Which isn't three...

01:22:36.480 I guess it is three months of his term.

01:22:37.840 Interesting.

01:22:38.360 Probably not.

01:22:39.100 I mean, the country seems to be running perfectly as well as it was.

01:22:42.380 I shouldn't say it's running perfectly well.

01:22:43.840 It's running as well as it was under Biden.

01:22:46.200 Back when we had a president.

01:22:47.220 Back when we actually had a president.

01:22:48.560 And so obviously it's being run by a cabal of leftist bureaucrats, you know, secretly

01:22:52.760 manipulated by the Machiavellian Barack Obama from the cellar or something like that.

01:22:59.860 And so I don't think they want to do anything that dramatic.

01:23:02.440 I actually do believe if Trump wins convincingly, there will be wiser heads on the left who start

01:23:08.840 to understand that they are seen that when they try to silence us, they are seen trying

01:23:14.020 to silence us, which was not true five years ago.

01:23:16.620 I do think that it's true.

01:23:17.760 Ben said this yesterday while we were on TimCast IRL together, that the left, you have to

01:23:23.440 give them credit for being professional at politics.

01:23:26.240 And they are willing to run more moderate campaigns if they think that that's the path

01:23:31.680 to power.

01:23:32.480 You know, in my lifetime, I mean, by today's standards, Bill Clinton was basically a Republican

01:23:36.180 president, particularly during his first term.

01:23:38.480 He famously said the era of big government is over.

01:23:40.980 That they're willing to do that if that's what it takes to win.

01:23:44.020 But, you know, when you get to the stakes in the election, I just want, you know, why

01:23:48.400 do I want Donald Trump to win?

01:23:50.300 I mean, obviously, I liked not being engaged in wars.

01:23:53.640 I like decisive action to actually defeat ISIS.

01:23:56.700 I like killing Soleimani in Iraq.

01:23:58.960 I like the tax cuts.

01:24:00.580 I liked the judicial appointments.

01:24:02.660 I liked the executive orders.

01:24:05.640 But I really want Trump to win more than anything for these two reasons.

01:24:10.640 I want the left to have to wake up in four years and see Donald Trump leave office.

01:24:16.640 Because they've essentially said that he won't.

01:24:18.640 I mean, they've said this guy's Hitler.

01:24:19.720 He's a fascist.

01:24:20.300 He's a dictator.

01:24:20.900 If he comes into power, it's the end of everything.

01:24:23.300 So in the same way that I want to get to whatever the day is when it's too late to

01:24:27.180 save the planet from global warming, just so they have to stop talking.

01:24:30.720 Like, either way, they have to stop talking about it.

01:24:32.440 They're going to keep talking about it.

01:24:33.340 I also want to.

01:24:34.340 But the number one reason I want Donald Trump to win is because I want an end.

01:24:39.320 FDR got elected to a fourth term.

01:24:41.020 Let's not elect Barack Obama to a fourth term.

01:24:44.360 Barack Obama has essentially been the power in the Democrat Party for the last 16 years.

01:24:50.360 The reason he was so quick to advance Kamala Harris for this role is because she's a vacuous,

01:24:56.980 brain-dead, probably drug and alcohol addled non-person.

01:25:01.860 I mean, she literally is the non-person player or whatever, the non-person character.

01:25:07.120 Which means that Barack Obama just gets four more years of essentially being the most powerful

01:25:11.460 person, not vested with the power of constitutional authority, but vested with just the power of

01:25:17.820 influential authority in that party. I want that to be gone. If you defeat Kamala Harris now,

01:25:23.340 in four years, the Democrats are going to have to run an actual candidate. And an actual candidate

01:25:27.660 will have their own opinions and their own ideas and won't just be a puppet for Barack Obama and

01:25:33.440 his former staff. That's why Barack Obama doesn't want that to happen. It's why he wanted Joe Biden,

01:25:38.020 even though he hates Joe Biden. But he liked the fact that Joe Biden was already dead.

01:25:41.680 He likes the fact that Kamala Harris maybe has never been alive. So it would just delight me if

01:25:49.080 we no longer had Barack Obama. The chief reason I would want to see Trump win, there are many,

01:25:52.440 many reasons you named most of them, but the chief one is because without violence and without

01:25:57.120 violating the First Amendment, I want the news media to know how much we despise them,

01:26:01.700 how much we distrust them, how much we see them lying. I do not know how to send that message any

01:26:07.420 better than to reelect Donald Trump and to say, you know what? Because it means they were

01:26:11.640 irrelevant. They were irrelevant. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. So was the question raised, if she

01:26:18.000 loses, would they make her president for the last three months? If she wins, would they make her

01:26:24.460 president? Well, why would? Well, I thought she, I thought she'd lose. Yeah, I thought it was.

01:26:28.320 No, you're correct. Yeah. Yeah. So it, I had a, I had a thought on that,

01:26:34.000 that it would be in our interest that she were president for three months. Then they can never

01:26:42.460 say again, the first black woman president. They would have lost that idiot, idiotic, pointless.

01:26:52.300 If there's something I loathe, it is tribalism. Uh, I remember when a beautiful human being,

01:26:59.380 Joe Lieberman was, was named vice presidential candidate under Al Gore. I mean, and, and, and I

01:27:05.680 knew Lieberman personally. He was a, and one is talk about an honorable man in politics. Everyone

01:27:11.640 recognized that I didn't vote for him. My relatives did. And one of my relatives who was, who's a very,

01:27:18.320 very bright and wonderful human being said, Dennis, we finally think about it. A Jew vice president of

01:27:25.600 the United States and, and you're voting for the Republicans. And, and I didn't bother arguing,

01:27:32.320 but I realized I don't think that way. I don't, I don't believe I need to look like my leaders.

01:27:38.920 I don't believe I need to be the same ethnic group or religious group. There, there is,

01:27:44.560 there is no part of me that understands why that is a beautiful idea.

01:27:49.340 Yeah. But Dennis, don't you think that Valium addicted, brain dead, young, young women of mixed

01:27:57.020 ethnicity deserve to see a president who looks like them? It's been too long, really.

01:28:03.540 Isn't it time? I'm starting to get certain insinuations out of your commentary.

01:28:06.120 Isn't it time? You get this, the argument, the one that drives me, you, well, they, we want a

01:28:12.540 Supreme court that looks like America or we want a, this that looks like America. Do, do, wait,

01:28:18.640 I know I'm one of the 10 million people who've asked this question, but it's nevertheless worth

01:28:23.440 asking. Does anybody rooting for their NBA team care if the team looks like him? Seriously, right?

01:28:30.840 And that's not what they want anyway, because it looks like America means that any institution is

01:28:34.400 13% black and they want it to be a lot more than that. Yeah. Yeah. I, but if we'll go around the

01:28:38.300 table to talk about why we want Trump to win, I, and we've already covered a lot of the good

01:28:42.200 reasons, but, uh, I also think it'll just be hilarious if Trump goes two and O against female

01:28:48.480 candidates. If the first two female presidential candidates are defeated by Donald Trump.

01:28:55.100 That would be a good one.

01:28:55.900 My answer relates to Jeremy is a little, cause that was a really insightful point, Jeremy,

01:29:00.160 when you said, I want Trump to win so that the Democrats, so we can all see the day when he leaves

01:29:06.440 office and that will prove them wrong. And he didn't declare himself Caesar. I want Trump to be

01:29:11.640 president so that he declares himself Caesar and reigns forever. And then Barron will take over

01:29:17.280 after him. And we will have a glorious Fox Trumpana that will, uh, augur great goods for the world.

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01:31:51.180 doesn't go the way we want, we will change the promo code very, very quickly. So we got an update

01:31:56.600 out of Decision Desk HQ. They're putting Trump's chances in North Carolina at 73%. That's good.

01:32:02.000 Pretty good. Pretty good. Georgia also looking pretty good. Don't want to count our chickens,

01:32:07.800 but... Another shout out for my boys in Florida. First big polling miss in the evening. Those RCP

01:32:13.060 averages had Trump at plus 8 and Rick Scott at plus 4.5. They're both going to win by plus 12.

01:32:17.740 Whoa. Whoa, that's great. How do you feel about Florida?

01:32:20.640 I love it. It's the best. Let me just tell you how much Florida kicks ass, okay? This is how good

01:32:25.200 Florida is. Florida put up four constitutional referendum, abortion on demand, and legalized

01:32:29.600 marijuana, and both went down in flaming defeat because Florida is, as stated, amazeballs.

01:32:35.120 I'm pretty amazed that, you know, I thought the abortion one would go down. I didn't think the

01:32:39.000 other one would go down. Well, so again, DeSantis got on his horse, and he like actually did the

01:32:43.300 work in that state. And Brian Kemp, by the way, did that in Georgia too. Like seriously, full credit

01:32:47.780 to Brian Kemp, who Trump crapped upon for literally years. And Brian Kemp went out, and he's been

01:32:54.800 stumping for Trump. I mean, he's been doing the work. So, you know, that is, let's put it this

01:32:59.360 way. The good graces go both ways. Again, just go one way. We've talked about Donald Trump, you know,

01:33:03.180 forgiving his enemies and people who have opposed him. And it also works the other way. There are a

01:33:07.300 lot of people who, you know, Donald Trump did not treat amazingly well over the course of the last

01:33:11.140 few years who have shown up for him. I mean, we all remember he didn't treat Ron DeSantis particularly

01:33:15.180 well. DeSantis went out, and he worked very, very hard for Donald Trump in the state of Florida,

01:33:18.560 and it makes a big difference. When we unify, it's better. It's better.

01:33:22.260 Yeah, that's right. Do any of you have a theory? I had him on my show today,

01:33:26.100 and I almost never have politicians on. It's not, I'm not anti-politician. I don't have that

01:33:30.680 silly view. They run the gamut like any other group of human beings. But it's just not the nature.

01:33:36.420 Who are scum-sucking bottom line. Yeah, yeah, reptilian monsters.

01:33:40.240 But I, it's just not the nature of my show. But I so admire Ted Cruz. He is such a fighter for good

01:33:47.660 things. Is he really in trouble in this race? Ted Cruz was in trouble in this race. I consider Ted my

01:33:54.300 only friend in government. And it's, again, I, I think that as far as scum-sucking bottom dwellers go,

01:34:01.780 Ted is tops. He is tops in my book. And, and a friend of the Daily Wire. And he, he was in genuine

01:34:09.560 trouble. I mean, for one thing, there has been an enormous shift in Texas. And the shift in Texas is

01:34:14.660 not that they've imported a bunch of Californians. As it turns out, the Californians they've imported

01:34:18.780 are largely conservative. It's that they have this uncontrolled border. They've had it now for so long

01:34:25.360 that it is beginning to erode Texas. It's not, I mean, it is still decidedly a red state, but it is

01:34:31.440 purpling up. And Ted was trailing behind Trump in the state in poll after poll. The Democrats decided

01:34:38.580 to run Colin Allred, who is something of a cultural figure. He was obviously a Tennessee Titan NFL football

01:34:43.560 player. So the kind of guy who could get some sizzle down in Texas. And it became the most

01:34:50.200 expensive Senate race in the country. That's what he said. They, they spent an enormous amount of money

01:34:55.520 trying to unseat Ted. And one of the reasons Ted is vulnerable is because Trump kind of shibbed him

01:35:00.880 at the RNC, you know, back in 2016. And because Ted has played so hard himself with people like Mitch

01:35:08.500 McConnell and his colleagues in the Senate, that they didn't give him a lot of support from the

01:35:13.040 institution in this race. Uh, and so I do think that at the beginning of this race, and even as

01:35:18.260 recently as six weeks ago, there was a lot of very concerning polling for Ted coming out of, uh,

01:35:25.740 coming out of Texas. So I got to get involved in that race actually in my own way, not, not as a

01:35:30.440 representative of the daily wire, but as a friend of Ted Cruz. And I wrote an ad for him, which I think

01:35:36.500 turned out maybe to be the, the, the ad, the state level ad that had the most money spent on it

01:35:43.220 out of any race in the country this year. I was really proud of the ad. I assume you, you probably

01:35:48.460 saw the ad. It was the ad where Colin Allred tackles a little girl on the football field because

01:35:53.800 he supported, uh, transgenderism in sports. That's right. And it was, it was a brutal ad. I'm not going

01:35:59.980 to lie. But it turns out, it turns out it was very effective and the super PAC spent a lot of money on

01:36:04.920 it, uh, on airing it in Texas. And, and I think that Ted has run a great campaign in Texas and I do

01:36:12.720 not think he goes into the evening tonight in trouble. It would be, in fact, I'll go so far to

01:36:17.300 say, I think that if Ted Cruz loses his race in Texas, Kamala Harris is going to win the presidency.

01:36:22.940 They're going to win the Senate. They're going to win that. Like, yes. Whereas I don't know that

01:36:26.160 that was necessarily the case, even as recently as eight weeks ago, but he's, he's put in the

01:36:30.900 effort. He's run a great campaign. Ted's been all over the state. And Ben campaigned with him

01:36:35.560 two days ago. Massive, massive energy for, for Ted Cruz. By the way, one piece of, of interesting

01:36:41.220 NBC exit poll, again, always with the proviso that exit polls are chicken entrails, but the

01:36:46.600 Pennsylvania independent voter exit poll out of NBC news, Trump 50, Harris 44. If that holds,

01:36:52.680 Trump's going to win Pennsylvania. He's going to win the presidency. So, you know, let's,

01:36:55.720 let's hope that that holds. Well, meanwhile, Brent Buchanan from Signal, he is with us and he has some

01:37:01.300 updates from Georgia. Brent, tell us all about what's happening in Georgia as more of the vote

01:37:07.180 is coming in. Well, we're starting to see some of the Northern counties begin to report, which is what

01:37:13.320 we had talked about earlier. And so we look at places like Cobb County, Georgia here is beginning

01:37:20.400 to report. So this is a very large county that in the past has voted for Joe Biden. Let me look at

01:37:27.900 the numbers here. So this was a, a seat that, or a county that Joe Biden won by 14 points. And you can

01:37:36.300 see that currently he is doing some quick math here. I love tenths of a percentage. He's currently up by

01:37:42.480 16 points or she's up by 16 points in this seat. So one of the biggest trends that we're beginning to

01:37:48.320 see across Georgia specifically is that there are some places where she's doing better. She's

01:37:54.440 improving upon Biden's margins. The vote share is higher, but then you're starting to see some of

01:37:59.260 these rural counties come in also too. And so we've got Forsyth County here as an example. And this is a,

01:38:06.260 a county that, that Trump won by 33 points. And currently he is up by 37. So you can see,

01:38:17.260 you've got kind of a counterbalance effect here of two Northern arc Georgia counties.

01:38:22.840 Red America is getting redder and blue America is getting bluer is what this tells me.

01:38:26.740 That's a really good point. And then you throw in, again, let's go back to Fayette County that we

01:38:30.420 were talking about earlier. This is a county that, uh, Trump won by, uh, seven. And now you can see

01:38:39.320 how tight this margin is. And so if we're talking about blue and red America, Fayette County is the

01:38:44.120 county in between, uh, blue and red America, and it has shifted somewhat in, in her direction. So

01:38:49.280 overall, we're seeing a lot of the same trends and that the rurals are doing better. Um, but,

01:38:54.500 but this partisanship gap of if you were in a blue County, you're getting, you're, you're voting even

01:38:59.740 more heavily blue, at least in the swing States. And again, I go back to what you'd brought up in

01:39:04.820 the last segment, talking about Loudoun County. That's a really interesting place because they had

01:39:09.840 220,000 votes in 2020, that's down to about 212,000. So an 8,000 vote drop in it. And it looks

01:39:18.140 to have almost come exclusively off of the back of Kamala Harris. And so, uh, Donald Trump is

01:39:24.800 performing at his ballot, actually a little bit above the ballot share that he got in 2020, uh, in a

01:39:31.400 county like that. And then you combine that with Florida, which is just wildly red. And you begin to

01:39:36.280 see how the national polling has showed a very tight presidential race. And we saw a lot of this

01:39:42.420 in 2022 also where, uh, Republicans were at plus two nationally on the generic ballot and ended up in

01:39:49.480 that place and then just barely won the house of representatives. And so I don't think this

01:39:54.840 election is turning out so far to look much like 2020 or even 2016. It's got a lot of 2022 vibes to it,

01:40:02.440 at least that we're starting to see come in. And that's very strong Republican votes, but it's not

01:40:08.560 showing up evenly across the country. And so I'm really interested to see what other states that

01:40:14.120 aren't like a Florida as they come in. You know, we're sitting here at, at Georgia in total of, uh,

01:40:21.140 about 63% reporting. This margin continues to get closer as the votes are counted. Uh, and I think

01:40:28.000 this is going to be a really indicative state as we, uh, begin to go through the night, but it, again,

01:40:34.220 it, it feels a whole lot like 2022 right now where Republicans are performing very strongly,

01:40:39.120 but it's not necessarily netting us, uh, yet in the places that we need it to net us vote. It's just

01:40:45.580 increasing our margins in places like Florida and Loudoun County that actually don't matter that much

01:40:50.440 overall. Well, let's talk about sort of, you know, the, the, the question of voting by race.

01:40:54.920 We've seen some exit polls that show that Trump is performing, uh, strongly so far in Hispanic

01:40:59.240 districts. Uh, there was an exit poll that somebody had cited earlier that suggested that, that he was

01:41:03.180 doing well with black men in, in Georgia. Well, what, what did the turnout look like? Do we, do we know

01:41:07.700 yet in terms of exit polling or any other data, what, what the turnout looks like racially in a state

01:41:12.280 like Georgia, which is obviously a very heavily demographically black state? Yeah. A lot of those

01:41:17.720 counties haven't reported yet, especially the rural black counties. So if we come down to some of

01:41:22.540 these counties down here, um, so Coffey County, we can look at some of the census data of what this

01:41:28.940 looks like. I mean, this is 28% black. What's really interesting is that this county, uh, actually

01:41:34.420 looks a whole lot Democrat, at least racially like the state of Georgia. It, it does over index on

01:41:40.120 Hispanic and under index Asian, but it gets the black percentage about right when you're thinking

01:41:45.080 about, uh, what the voting population is going to be. And then as we look at the, the results for

01:41:50.600 Coffey County, it hadn't come in at all. So there's just several places where there's not a ton of

01:41:55.860 votes. I mean, they're, they're expecting what, 16,000 votes here for Coffey County as an example,

01:42:00.340 but there's just a lot of holes in the map still. Um, and, and even when we look at places like

01:42:05.960 Fulton County here, 74% reporting, I mean, this is turning out pretty much like you would project.

01:42:12.060 So this Fulton County is Atlanta, um, and then goes into Buckhead and, and a little bit further

01:42:17.000 north, uh, into that, that top part there that you see. Uh, and so we're, I would say we're still

01:42:22.840 pretty early in the, in the night. If we're going to say that there are good Republican data points

01:42:27.320 and good Democrat data points, uh, if I had to compare the two, I would say that there are more

01:42:31.680 good Republican data points so far coming in. Um, and they tend to look like it's trending even more

01:42:37.200 so that direction. And we do have a couple of, of calls from the Associated Press. The Associated Press

01:42:41.640 is saying that Virginia is going to go for Kamala Harris. Uh, and they are also suggesting,

01:42:45.760 uh, that, uh, I believe, um, what was the other state there? There's another state they just called

01:42:50.760 for, for Kamala Harris. Um, Illinois, I believe Massachusetts, New Hampshire, New Hampshire is

01:42:55.500 the one that, uh, that was sort of my outlier. There goes my map. My map was in my dream map,

01:43:01.540 he wins New Hampshire. They've called New Hampshire for Kamala Harris, uh, as well. So, uh, what exactly

01:43:07.220 happened in New Hampshire? Cause there were some dreams. Some of us had dreams. Those dreams have

01:43:11.340 been dashed of New Hampshire turning red. Well, again, it's 33% reporting. So it's, we can't really

01:43:17.880 look into it and say what happened. I think it's just, if you're looking at states that aren't

01:43:23.480 actually that competitive and have not had hundreds of millions of dollars spent on them,

01:43:27.660 they're kind of performing like you would expect them to perform. Um, not a lot of money was spent in

01:43:33.220 Florida this go around. And I think that depresses the Democrat and left-leaning non-affiliated voter

01:43:39.180 turnout there and a place like New Hampshire, there's just, there wasn't much advertising.

01:43:43.800 Uh, we, we did a huge study in 2022 after the election and looked at where large amounts of

01:43:49.180 spendings, uh, went compared to races that didn't have a lot of spending. And you saw if it was a

01:43:55.620 red seat and it didn't have any spending, you actually saw severe drops in Democratic turnout,

01:44:01.180 um, because they had no reason to show up. Like they knew it was going to be a guaranteed victory.

01:44:05.560 Uh, and so places like New Hampshire are a really good example where

01:44:09.680 not a whole lot of money spent, not even, not even a ton of money in the congressional races

01:44:13.580 comparatively were spent. And so it's, it's just giving you what you would expect it to give you,

01:44:18.180 uh, in, in a final result. Well, Brent Buchanan will check back in shortly. Our election map

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01:44:26.520 device to understand your body more with Lumen. It's interesting that, you know, Trump is running ahead

01:44:32.600 of Kamala in, uh, in Virginia and the, the times is saying that she's, it still leans her way,

01:44:39.380 but they're not saying she. Well, I mean, they've actually called, I mean, the AP called it. The AP

01:44:42.600 called it. I mean, well, but that's why, again, we're the amateurs. I mean, like really if they're

01:44:46.940 calling it, the reason that they're calling it is because the counties that have already reported

01:44:50.060 tend to be the more red counties. They're a bunch of outstanding blue counties. They know how that's

01:44:53.040 going to go. Now looking at the Lib outlets, uh, I'm checking in again with our friends at the New York

01:44:57.520 Times. They are continuing to increase Trump's chances at the presidency. They're now putting

01:45:02.400 it at 60, 40 Trump. Uh, their EV breakdown is 279 to 259 before New Hampshire came in. They had it up

01:45:10.660 to 280 as a possibility, but okay, we're at 279 still. You're seeing a little breakaway here, even

01:45:16.560 coming from the, the liberal outlets. It says it's a toss up, but it's, their meter is moving closer to

01:45:23.140 they've got the needle back. The needle is back. The famous needle that had Hillary Clinton at 99%.

01:45:27.480 Yeah, I know. That's what I want to get to. You know, Megan, what are you hearing from the

01:45:32.820 evangelicals? You know, we've heard so much about the evangelicals being kind of told not to vote or

01:45:36.640 told that they should vote woke or whatever. What are you hearing? I mean, that's a very real thing.

01:45:41.400 It's both, um, from a standpoint of you have pastors and I can tell you some very well-known, um,

01:45:47.280 influential pastors, people like Andy Stanley, who, um, he, he has a church of about 38,000

01:45:53.120 in Georgia. And he had a book out last year called not in it to win it. Why choosing sides

01:45:59.580 sidelines the church. So I think that that has been a major factor. Jeremy was talking about this

01:46:05.240 earlier, the messaging that you're getting from a lot of these pastors that it's dirty to get your

01:46:10.020 hands in politics rather than understanding that, look, we as a constituency have to be able to,

01:46:15.540 to leverage our political power for the cause of righteousness. That's, that's not what they're

01:46:19.560 arguing. Um, and at the same time, you also have literally, and you and I talked about this on your

01:46:25.820 show, uh, hard left secular foundations who are funneling money into gambits and efforts to try to

01:46:33.940 push this narrative that it's, it's better for Christians to abstain from the political process

01:46:39.600 that, um, Jesus is neither left nor right. And of course the implication there is that the left and

01:46:45.200 right are moral equivalents and they're not, but I think you have a lot of pastors who are unwilling

01:46:51.040 to stand up and seem like they're partisan and push back against that narrative. This, uh,

01:46:55.920 you've been a very sensitive subject. I had Jack Hibbs on one of the best known pastors in the country

01:47:02.780 for an hour last week on my show begging fellow evangelicals to vote. But this notion, Jesus is

01:47:11.280 neither left nor right. And it doesn't matter whether you're Catholic, Protestant, or Jew. Uh,

01:47:17.620 uh, I, uh, for 17 years have conducted Yom Kippur and Rosh Hashanah services in Los Angeles. And,

01:47:25.840 uh, I, uh, I, uh, I never talk, I never talk politics, by the way. That's one of the reasons I

01:47:32.960 founded this synagogue was not to talk politics, but I'm, I'm obviously conservative, uh, in every,

01:47:39.260 in religiously and, and morally. And one of my subjects, and I choose them very carefully because

01:47:46.460 most of the people have heard me on the radio and in speeches. So I, I need something really big,

01:47:52.320 but not one that I've addressed. How does one explain when religion, specifically Judaism and

01:47:58.780 Christianity or Christianity doesn't make people better? Uh, it's a, it's a, it's always bothered me.

01:48:06.820 The first book I wrote, I was 24 years old, the nine questions people ask about Judaism.

01:48:11.860 And, and one of the questions was, if religion is supposed to make people better, how do you account

01:48:16.980 for unethical religious people? And that, that has bothered me since high school. The Bible is so

01:48:25.700 clear that God wants us to be good. Uh, my favorite verse in the entire Bible is those of you who love

01:48:32.460 God must, it's a commandment. The Hebrew is in the command must hate evil. If you don't hate evil,

01:48:38.300 you don't love God. So for a, for a pastor or a rabbi that's irrelevant or a Pope to say that Jesus

01:48:47.340 doesn't take sides, it is, he doesn't take sides on whether you cut girls' breasts off if they save

01:48:55.020 their boys. That that's frightening. I do. I speak to Christians more than to Jews.

01:49:07.100 I will say that there is an aspect of Jesus, which is, you hate to use modern political

01:49:16.540 vernacular to talk about ancient religious figures, but there is a liberal aspect to Jesus in the sense

01:49:22.780 that Dr. Jordan Peterson often says that the, the purpose of the liberal in a healthy society

01:49:30.200 is to speak for the underrepresented, is to, is to speak for anyone who, because in any sort of

01:49:35.640 hierarchy of, of any kind, there are going to be people who get disenfranchised, there are going to

01:49:39.900 be people who, um, who the system looks over and someone has to remind those of us who are in power,

01:49:46.180 those of us who, uh, are ascendant to, to remember those people and to care for them.

01:49:50.580 But that's about where the, that's about where the comparison can stop. Religion

01:49:55.480 is fundamentally a conservative exercise because it posits that the greatest wisdom that's ever,

01:50:02.940 you know, been presented in human history is behind us.

01:50:06.680 And, right, there's also a transcendent eternal moral order and human nature, you know, it's hard

01:50:12.840 to square that with the liberal project, which is in itself largely a rejection of religion. I mean,

01:50:18.340 you think of the French Revolution is where we get the terms left and right. And what does that

01:50:22.680 come from? That comes from the National Assembly where the Catholics sat on the right and the

01:50:27.060 atheists sat on the left. And that was, that was pretty much the breakdown. Speaking of the French

01:50:31.220 Revolution, our friend Tim Poole is joining us now. And not a moment too soon because the polls are

01:50:35.840 closing in a number of states just in the last few minutes, all, uh, all throughout the central

01:50:40.300 part of the country, including, um, including Texas, my, my home state, which you will be shocked

01:50:46.620 to learn is being universally called for, uh, Donald Trump. So, you know, they're going into

01:50:51.600 the election. There were all kinds of things that people were, you know, maybe New York will go for

01:50:55.160 Trump and maybe Texas will go for Harris. And all that is wish casting. We still, we still live in a

01:51:00.480 world where gravity works. Yeah. Here's some quick calls. Trump wins Wyoming, Trump wins Kansas,

01:51:04.580 Trump wins North Dakota, Trump wins South Dakota, Trump wins Nebraska, Trump wins Louisiana,

01:51:08.020 and Kamala wins New York. So Donald Trump's big dream of winning New York. Well, that one went

01:51:13.040 down in flames because that's a really stupid idea. Hey, Kamala Harris, Texas, and Kamala Harris did,

01:51:17.300 Kamala Harris did campaign in Texas. That all just came in right now? Yeah. I'll just, yeah,

01:51:22.280 as you were walking over. Right, right, right. Well, how are you guys feeling? We've been tracking

01:51:25.480 the decision desk, uh, forecast, giving Trump's about 70% chance to win and it's going down a little

01:51:31.200 bit, but it's staying about two to one. So what do we think? I don't know, man. What do you think?

01:51:38.020 My, the whole time, the scariest thing is the quote unquote shadow campaign, right? Time Magazine

01:51:43.560 writes that article, 2020 had a shadow campaign. We go to bed, Trump's ahead in all the, all the

01:51:48.420 numbers. And then we wake up and he's not winning based on what I've seen on the ground, based on,

01:51:53.580 I went to Philadelphia and there were Trump signs in downtown Philadelphia and the surrounding

01:51:57.220 residential areas that, that to me was crazy to see an urban center that was Republican or

01:52:01.520 that people were unafraid. And so that my gut just says Trump's got the edge, whatever that means,

01:52:06.600 but I don't know the Republicans have the procedural capabilities that Democrats have.

01:52:10.460 I think Ben, you were saying they're way more professional. That, that is worrying to me.

01:52:14.000 Yeah. So there, there, there was some Gallup data that suggested that a much higher percentage of

01:52:18.620 Democrats had heard directly from the Kamala campaign than Republicans had heard from the

01:52:21.500 Trump campaign. Uh, the, the Democrats are granular on this sort of stuff. They know how to

01:52:25.680 ballot harvest. They will knock on doors. They will do whatever it takes to get their people out.

01:52:29.560 Republicans, it always feels like, okay, guys, just please just go. Like,

01:52:32.700 and the, and the more we just shout voted people that somebody out there, it's, you know,

01:52:36.900 you'll open your window, you'll shout vote and some person in Pennsylvania will hear you

01:52:39.680 and then immediately run to the polls. Uh, with that said, I mean, the enthusiasm that,

01:52:44.200 that Trump, you know, does enable in the voting population on both sides, but largely on the right

01:52:49.660 is unprecedented, obviously in, in American history. Uh, and, and you are, you are seeing that

01:52:54.960 show up. If you had to game it out right now, Trump is a slight favorite. I think everyone

01:52:59.420 sort of acknowledges at this point that Trump is a slight favorite, but it's a very slight favorite.

01:53:03.140 So like the needle, the New York times, the needle, they right now have it leaning right

01:53:07.640 between it's a toss up and lean Trump. Like they, they have it very slightly favoring president

01:53:12.820 Trump. He is very slightly favored to win Pennsylvania. He's, he's slightly favored still

01:53:17.880 to win Nevada and North Carolina, according to the New York times, right? So I'm not citing a

01:53:21.860 left-wing source right there. And of course it seems as though we're having a better time

01:53:26.340 tonight than the people on MSNBC are from what I'm hearing from my, you know, I'm getting

01:53:29.780 a lot of texts. That was part of the reason my joy, you know, the whole night I watched

01:53:35.260 the left-wing media. Oh, well we're just going to, we're going to live stream MSNBC. If this

01:53:40.580 goes the wrong way, we're just going to like put a live camera outside Kamala's headquarters

01:53:44.840 and we're just going to watch people scream into the night and it's going to be just wonderful.

01:53:48.780 There will be joy. There will be joy. You guys all know the term schadenfreude, joy

01:53:55.160 and others' misery. So I don't generally have that. But that night, eight years ago,

01:54:02.300 it was sure.

01:54:03.520 If they do it tonight, it's like the purge, right? All moral rules are off.

01:54:06.980 Just continue to avoid the suffering of others.

01:54:08.780 I have been very honest with myself for the past several days. I have relatives and friends

01:54:14.460 who are big libs. You know, I'm from New York. I lived in LA. A lot of Democrat friends.

01:54:19.360 And I won't bring it up with them and it won't come up at Thanksgiving.

01:54:21.520 Right. Exactly. However, I have two buddies who are New York Democrats and I am, I don't

01:54:27.640 even, I don't want to get ahead of myself, but I am salivating at the prospect of rubbing

01:54:33.380 it in their faces so hard. So I don't, they're the only two. I think it's otherwise we have

01:54:38.100 to have a politics of grace and everything, but there will be some schadenfreude. I think

01:54:43.080 it might be unavoidable.

01:54:43.840 Well, as a warning to others, we must engage in schadenfreude. I do not repeat this exercise

01:54:48.700 again. It's like punishing your child. You don't want to do it. You really don't want

01:54:51.720 to do it, but it has to be done.

01:54:53.120 It hurts you more than that.

01:54:54.840 That's right.

01:54:55.540 Exactly.

01:54:56.100 This is why I really hope that Trump wins the popular vote. If Trump wins the electoral

01:55:00.700 college and loses the popular vote, I know I'm going to go to Thanksgiving and they're

01:55:03.320 going to say, you guys only win because of some archaic procedure. We are the popular

01:55:07.200 man.

01:55:07.440 A procedure called the constitution. You guys only win because of your government.

01:55:10.540 I want Trump to win the popular vote so I can just say you're wrong about everything

01:55:13.520 and we're right about everything.

01:55:15.620 It does look right now in Ohio by the way.

01:55:17.260 You have that too? You have a lot of relatives who are on the left?

01:55:22.220 Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

01:55:23.940 So wait.

01:55:25.560 Booyah.

01:55:25.880 So this is a fascinating question. I love this sort of thing because I always ask people

01:55:32.280 about their own personal lives. I'm fascinated. The only human being I know, and you must understand

01:55:39.400 how many I've asked, including people I meet, which is a lot, on the radio, just people calling

01:55:44.140 in. Literally the only person I know, all of whose relatives are conservative, is my wife.

01:55:52.320 Wow.

01:55:52.800 Really?

01:55:53.360 Yes.

01:55:53.860 Lucky her.

01:55:56.240 She's going to live until 170 years. She has no misery.

01:56:00.900 At that point though, what's the point of going to Thanksgiving?

01:56:05.240 You know, if you can look forward to it.

01:56:07.820 That's great.

01:56:08.360 Yeah.

01:56:09.320 At least Turkey's good.

01:56:10.780 I feel like Biden's having a bad election.

01:56:13.600 Oh yeah.

01:56:14.680 Is this true that Joe Biden was wearing red?

01:56:17.800 So Jill was.

01:56:19.040 Joe was.

01:56:19.340 When Jill voted.

01:56:20.500 Jill.

01:56:20.860 So for sure 100% Jill voted for Trump.

01:56:23.000 100%.

01:56:23.800 Gotta be. Gotta be, right?

01:56:24.680 She despises Kamala Harris.

01:56:26.340 At the very least, they wrote in Joe Biden. There is no way they wrote 100%.

01:56:30.560 I heard she wrote in Joe and she wore red.

01:56:33.720 Yeah.

01:56:35.060 That's amazing.

01:56:36.180 Yeah.

01:56:36.640 Yeah.

01:56:36.900 So, you know.

01:56:37.700 She wore red, that matters.

01:56:39.460 Right.

01:56:39.680 Is that a new thing?

01:56:40.980 Well.

01:56:41.980 She's wearing the Republican colors, right?

01:56:44.300 Yeah.

01:56:44.440 Yeah, no, I didn't know.

01:56:45.880 Remarkable.

01:56:46.720 It's like a nudge nudge, you know?

01:56:48.360 But doesn't Donald Trump often wear a blue tie?

01:56:53.660 I mean, I just.

01:56:54.680 He's got the red tie, the yellow tie.

01:56:55.760 He always has a red tie, really?

01:56:57.340 Occasionally the blue.

01:56:58.040 You know, something people forget about election night history.

01:57:01.580 They switched it.

01:57:02.420 Yeah, it was always up in the air.

01:57:03.940 Sometimes, you know, when Reagan won, it was blue was Republican and red was Democrat.

01:57:08.020 Which is the way it ought to be.

01:57:09.880 Yes.

01:57:10.500 They're the reds.

01:57:11.800 They're the reds.

01:57:12.460 But it was the 2000 election.

01:57:14.500 I think it was Tim Russert in particular.

01:57:17.080 That was really when it started to solidify as red for Republican, blue for Dem.

01:57:21.080 And I totally agree with you, Dennis.

01:57:22.500 Because they are actually reds, so it fits them.

01:57:26.200 And red is an unattractive color.

01:57:28.320 I'm wearing a red shirt jacket.

01:57:29.640 But I mean, that bright red, it's like a stop sign or something.

01:57:32.520 Burgundy.

01:57:33.000 This is burgundy.

01:57:33.580 This is more like a plum.

01:57:34.620 Yeah.

01:57:34.800 Yes.

01:57:35.320 Yeah.

01:57:36.040 In Ohio, it looks like Bernie Moreno is going to cruise to victory over Sherrod Brown.

01:57:40.380 Let's go.

01:57:41.040 That was a close race.

01:57:41.560 Really?

01:57:42.140 Let's go.

01:57:42.880 Sherrod Brown is going to be ousted.

01:57:44.300 All right, baby.

01:57:45.560 Wow, that's big.

01:57:46.380 Yeah, that takes the Republicans to 52 in the Senate.

01:57:49.240 Wow.

01:57:49.740 Which is a more durable majority, obviously.

01:57:51.860 West Virginia was fairly obvious.

01:57:53.360 Yeah.

01:57:53.680 When they called it, I'm like, I live there.

01:57:55.760 Right.

01:57:56.260 Shane on our show is like, there's no cities in West Virginia.

01:57:58.380 You've got nothing to worry about.

01:57:59.540 Yeah.

01:58:00.300 No, no.

01:58:01.100 That's a great line.

01:58:02.960 Yeah.

01:58:04.080 So we're being joined right now from Harris HQ in D.C. by our very own Spencer Lindquist.

01:58:08.760 Spencer, how are things shaping up over there?

01:58:12.500 Yeah, that's right.

01:58:13.280 So we're here in D.C., right in the middle of the swamp, and people have been really trickling

01:58:17.240 in now.

01:58:18.380 Most everybody is here at the party, and it is a large crowd.

01:58:21.640 I spoke with some people earlier, and they said they were cautiously optimistic.

01:58:25.480 It was three young women who go to school here at Howard, and they all think Kamala's

01:58:29.640 going to take it, but really, none of them seemed too confident, so we still have a long

01:58:33.360 night ahead of us before we have any results.

01:58:37.460 Have you been able to talk to any attendees inside the party?

01:58:40.080 Yeah, some of the attendees inside the party, you know, it really is a large crowd.

01:58:45.980 They're listening to music right now and really kind of just hanging out, waiting for these

01:58:50.180 results to roll in.

01:58:51.160 You know, we saw Illinois be called for Harris, a couple of other deep blue states be called

01:58:55.160 for Harris, and they're sitting here watching, kind of waiting for these results to roll

01:58:59.440 in.

01:58:59.960 And people seem to be, you know, they're excited, a little bit jittery even, and cautiously optimistic,

01:59:05.400 I think, is the general tone of those here on the ground.

01:59:08.940 I don't mind that they're jittery.

01:59:11.140 What do you think is the most likely victory map if she does end up winning tonight?

01:59:16.680 You know, reporters and analysts all week leading up to this election have said that Kamala Harris'

01:59:22.100 most direct path to victory really could lead through those three key Rust Belt states,

01:59:26.800 those three swing states.

01:59:28.500 So you've got Michigan, Wisconsin, and of course, Pennsylvania, which has 19 electoral votes.

01:59:33.520 And if Kamala Harris won those three states, you could have Trump winning North Carolina,

01:59:37.840 Georgia, Arizona, even Nevada.

01:59:40.020 And you would still come away with a very, very slim margin, but a Kamala Harris victory

01:59:44.800 nonetheless.

01:59:45.340 So those three states really are key, and they're going to be ones that we're going to be keeping

01:59:48.580 an eye on tonight.

01:59:49.660 And as you've been looking around D.C. for the last day or two, you know, we see reports

01:59:54.100 about shopkeepers boarding up their businesses.

01:59:56.380 Are you seeing that?

01:59:58.500 Yeah, yeah.

01:59:59.840 We were hanging out really right around the White House in downtown Washington, D.C.,

02:00:04.860 and there was a number of different businesses ranging from, you know, small restaurants to

02:00:09.200 office buildings, and they were putting up plywood.

02:00:11.700 You know, we saw violence here in D.C. after Trump's inauguration in January of 2017.

02:00:16.500 We saw violence around the country directly following Trump's election in 2016.

02:00:21.260 So there is an indication that if Trump does win this election, there could be more left-wing

02:00:25.760 violence here.

02:00:26.360 And that's exactly what those businesses are preparing for.

02:00:28.840 If they start boarding up the windows at the White House, please text us.

02:00:32.180 That's the thing.

02:00:33.380 I'm going to want to get a head start.

02:00:35.600 Well, really appreciate it, Spencer.

02:00:37.820 We'll check back in with you in just a little bit.

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02:00:49.920 By the way, a good exit poll alert.

02:00:52.360 This one from NBC News suggesting that Donald Trump may win up to 45 percent of the Latino

02:00:56.480 vote.

02:00:57.320 Oh, my man.

02:00:58.080 That is a big number.

02:00:59.560 That is a very, very big number.

02:01:01.160 Mostly Puerto Ricans, though.

02:01:02.300 Yeah.

02:01:02.860 What did Bush get in 04?

02:01:04.860 He got a huge number.

02:01:05.740 I think he had about 45 percent.

02:01:07.580 Somewhere around there.

02:01:08.440 Okay.

02:01:08.780 That was the biggest ever, right?

02:01:10.140 Yeah.

02:01:10.320 Yes.

02:01:10.720 Wow.

02:01:11.160 Well, it's a major realignment.

02:01:12.460 I mean, again, the Democrats, for a couple of reasons, have totally misread the Hispanic

02:01:17.780 population in the United States.

02:01:19.160 They misread them on policy because they think that they're just a bunch of left-wing San

02:01:22.660 Francisco liberals so long as you keep the border open.

02:01:24.700 But they also, I think, made a huge mistake in 2020, misreading the Hispanic population

02:01:29.900 by using this dumbass notion of BIPOC, right?

02:01:33.840 This idea that, like, every member of minority was the same as every other member of minority.

02:01:37.380 So Asians were the same as black people, the same as Hispanic people.

02:01:39.920 First of all, Hispanic people ain't even the same as Hispanic people, right?

02:01:42.140 Of course.

02:01:42.740 Cuba is not the same as Argentina, which is not the same as Venezuela.

02:01:45.140 I mean, these are all different countries with completely different histories.

02:01:47.900 And they think different ways.

02:01:50.200 And the attempt to lump everybody.

02:01:51.380 And then, I think, in 2020, when they were like, listen, if you're Latino, you must believe

02:01:55.060 that Black Lives Matter is the most important thing in the world.

02:01:57.860 You started to see the shift then.

02:01:58.960 I think you saw a lot of Hispanics go, you know, no.

02:02:01.900 The answer is no.

02:02:02.820 That's not the same thing.

02:02:04.040 I think Latinx was probably offensive to a lot of Hispanics as well.

02:02:07.560 They said so.

02:02:08.460 I mean, they're like, what does that mean?

02:02:09.920 Who are you talking to?

02:02:10.660 We do know, though, actually, that the Democrats are aware at some level that Hispanics are not

02:02:15.000 all the same because Obama, as he was opening up immigration from everywhere in Latin America,

02:02:20.220 did close the door on the Cubans.

02:02:22.940 He said, no, for the first time, forget about those Cubans.

02:02:25.440 You're going back.

02:02:26.360 But everyone else, Venezuelans, please come over.

02:02:28.780 Meanwhile, another NBC News exit poll in Wisconsin suggesting this, Dasha Burns of NBC News,

02:02:34.180 suggesting that Trump has doubled his black support in Wisconsin.

02:02:37.040 Wow.

02:02:37.260 Trump is polling apparently about 20% of the black vote versus 78% for Kamala Harris.

02:02:42.980 Four years ago, he won 8% of black voters in Wisconsin.

02:02:45.940 I mean, you're looking at identity realignment happening in real time in this election cycle.

02:02:50.740 It's amazing.

02:02:51.160 And so the final identity that Democrats are just banging on is white ladies, white single ladies.

02:02:54.680 That is really honest to God.

02:02:56.440 Well, black ladies, too.

02:02:58.680 We call them single ladies.

02:03:00.340 We should say single ladies are the constituency of the Democratic Party.

02:03:03.420 That's right.

02:03:03.780 Which is why Kamala Harris has campaigned so hard to get those people out to vote and campaigned

02:03:07.800 almost solely on abortion because she's dropping support like flies with Hispanic men,

02:03:12.640 with black men.

02:03:13.720 People with capacity for reasons.

02:03:15.040 I mean, also, and it's not, it's not, it actually is not distributed evenly.

02:03:18.920 Like, among single women, it's not as though everybody of every race who's single.

02:03:22.840 I think that there is, it really depends on how likely you are to get married as a single

02:03:26.360 woman, as a member of those populations, right?

02:03:28.660 If you're like, this is a question that we were talking about with Jordan was married

02:03:32.040 women obviously vote very much like their husbands.

02:03:33.980 Is that because they're being, you know, forcibly abused by their husband?

02:03:37.400 Or is it because the tend of women, the types of women who tend to get married tend to

02:03:41.160 be the types of women who vote like their husbands?

02:03:42.740 And people also marry people like themselves a little bit.

02:03:44.700 Well, but marriage also changes people.

02:03:46.700 Yeah.

02:03:46.820 I think that's an important part of it.

02:03:47.940 And children.

02:03:48.460 And children change people.

02:03:49.320 But it's also increasingly a self-selected group.

02:03:51.340 Of course.

02:03:51.400 Meaning the kinds of people who want to get married are also the kinds of people who

02:03:54.420 are going to tend to vote Republican a little bit.

02:03:56.540 I want to say the New York Times.

02:03:57.340 By the way, Kelly Ayotte is now your governor of New Hampshire.

02:03:59.680 She's a Republican.

02:04:00.800 So, you know, Trump doesn't win the state, but Ayotte is the governor of New Hampshire.

02:04:03.880 That's the first Republican governor they've had in 2000.

02:04:05.960 Since Christianity, like five minutes ago.

02:04:07.860 No.

02:04:08.520 Oh, yes.

02:04:09.120 Okay.

02:04:09.320 I'm sorry.

02:04:10.180 I do want to say the worst thing that I saw.

02:04:11.860 I just want to say the New York Times needle has now shifted over to leaning to Trump.

02:04:15.020 It's now lean Trump.

02:04:15.980 66 to 34.

02:04:18.560 Wait, wait, wait.

02:04:19.280 What's 66 to 34?

02:04:20.720 66% likelihood, according to the New York Times.

02:04:23.460 Why do you keep saying it's, well, you kept saying, he said it's just slightly.

02:04:28.000 I don't understand.

02:04:28.460 That's not slight.

02:04:29.040 They're saying leaning Trump, but they're saying the likelihood, given that lean.

02:04:33.560 So it went from toss-up into the lean category.

02:04:36.420 This is all this, like, stupid needle.

02:04:37.980 Wait, why is 66 lean?

02:04:39.720 That's all I'm asking.

02:04:40.780 66 is not lean.

02:04:42.800 That's two to one.

02:04:44.440 They're saying, it's not, they're not saying Trump is going to win, you know, 66%.

02:04:48.840 No, no.

02:04:49.340 They're saying it's a 66% chance he'll win.

02:04:52.360 Yes.

02:04:52.800 But that's not lean.

02:04:54.940 No, I mean.

02:04:55.800 I don't know why that's, lean is 54, 46.

02:04:59.920 Dennis, the same needle once said that Hillary Clinton had 99% chance he'll win.

02:05:05.380 Okay, I agree.

02:05:06.520 I agree with that.

02:05:07.900 It's just the word lean, juxtaposed to that.

02:05:10.940 Because you do think the last time we talked about this needle, it was to watch it just

02:05:15.180 go like, boop, you know, in 16.

02:05:17.700 I don't want to move too far from this conversation about the gender gap in the electorate without

02:05:23.380 talking about the hands-down, bar none, worst political ad of my lifetime put out by a PAC

02:05:30.460 supporting Kamala Harris that encouraged women to lie to their husbands.

02:05:35.520 I think divorce is a grave evil, something that we could argue about one of these days.

02:05:41.640 I might divorce my wife if I found out that she lied to me.

02:05:45.420 I would not divorce my wife for voting for someone with whom I deeply disagree.

02:05:50.200 I mean, that would be a challenge.

02:05:51.180 You'd have to, because you, in a marriage, need to have a common set of values and a common

02:05:54.860 mission.

02:05:55.700 But to find out that your spouse just lies to you about who they vote for.

02:05:59.580 Did you see the whisper campaign that the Washington Post was reporting on?

02:06:03.540 They said, after that ad went out, women were putting Post-it notes in bathroom stalls

02:06:08.000 saying, your husband won't know, your boyfriend won't know, your vote is a secret.

02:06:13.100 I kind of feel like if I went to the bathroom and I saw a Post-it on the wall, I would not

02:06:17.020 consider what it was telling me.

02:06:18.920 But the Washington Post said it was...

02:06:20.680 What's wrong with you?

02:06:21.560 You know, that's not what women were doing, and if it worked for them, I guess.

02:06:24.920 This is a reminder, though.

02:06:25.980 I agree with you.

02:06:26.660 That ad drove me so bonkers.

02:06:28.520 So vile.

02:06:29.120 But it's so perfectly exemplary of the Democrat Party because, you know, the fundamental political

02:06:36.660 unit is the family.

02:06:38.140 Of course.

02:06:38.280 It's not the individual, right?

02:06:39.240 The political unit means it's the family.

02:06:41.560 And the Democrats have been so relentless in their assaults on the family.

02:06:44.940 Taking your kids away from you, promoting divorce, discouraging marriage, promoting

02:06:48.900 abortion, all down the line.

02:06:49.840 All the way up to, hey, folks, our best argument for victory is you divide up your marriage.

02:06:58.120 Right.

02:06:58.300 And that will divide up the country, and we win.

02:07:00.380 You know, the New York Times, if you follow the New York Times, they run at least three

02:07:04.800 articles a week suggesting various kinds of sex that will probably destroy or enslave

02:07:10.560 you, unless you're married.

02:07:12.420 If you're married, they keep saying, you know, you don't have to have sex when you're

02:07:15.080 married.

02:07:15.420 They literally have these articles, but you might want to consider it a throuple.

02:07:18.500 If you're childless and alone, maybe a decent evolutionary strategy is to break up other

02:07:27.140 people's marriages.

02:07:28.560 I'm dead serious about that.

02:07:30.440 Like, you have no idea what sort of machinations people are capable of when what they're fighting

02:07:36.960 for is the probability that they will end up in a couple.

02:07:40.740 Like, there's no holds barred.

02:07:42.840 And it certainly is a useful strategy.

02:07:44.920 If you're not in a couple, and other people are, then one of your strategies is to do

02:07:49.420 everything you can to break that up.

02:07:51.300 Why wouldn't you?

02:07:52.180 Yeah.

02:07:52.360 Right.

02:07:52.680 You're going to, what, are you going to solidify the situation?

02:07:55.260 And you might say, well, that's counterproductive in the long run.

02:07:57.820 It's like, well, maybe you're not concerned about the long run if you're that desperate,

02:08:01.600 because desperate people tend not to be concerned with the long run.

02:08:04.060 We do have this terrible mystery that conservatives haven't unlocked, which is the absolutely aberrant

02:08:09.940 pattern of attitudes and voting patterns that characterize women between, single women between

02:08:14.940 the ages of 18 and 34.

02:08:16.540 It's like, there's a big problem there.

02:08:18.240 And it's a real mystery.

02:08:19.620 It can't just be passed over because they're, what they're doing is radically different than

02:08:23.760 what everyone else is doing.

02:08:25.200 And it's enough to consistently swing the election.

02:08:27.820 Sam, we were talking about this last night on your show, this idea that, you know, people

02:08:31.720 like Chelsea Handler and others keep talking about how, you know, they do drugs and have

02:08:35.980 sex with themselves all day, and they're so genuinely happy.

02:08:40.380 And my argument was that they actually are happy.

02:08:43.660 I don't think that they're lying.

02:08:44.740 I think that they don't know that there's an entire realm of human emotion that happens

02:08:49.780 in marriage and then when you have children that they're not even aware of.

02:08:54.440 Happy is a trivial emotion.

02:08:56.180 Yeah, happiness, of course.

02:08:56.960 The fact that we're obsessed with happiness, even on the psychological side, is an indication

02:09:01.440 of how trivial our culture is.

02:09:03.120 I mean, one of the things that you see quite consistently in psychological research is that

02:09:07.220 children without, couples without children are happier than couples with children.

02:09:12.340 It's like, well, you shouldn't have children.

02:09:13.820 It's like, no, you shouldn't use happiness measurements as your index of outcome.

02:09:18.620 Of course, you're less happy because, like, your three-year-old is fragile.

02:09:22.940 And if you have a three-year-old and a one-year-old, it's like, well, you're juggling catastrophes

02:09:26.900 all the time.

02:09:27.500 Well, seriously, you don't have time to be happy.

02:09:30.360 It's like, but happiness is a fleeting, hedonic emotion.

02:09:33.780 And it's not an indicator of participation in a process that's going to stabilize your

02:09:38.940 life and the life of your family across decades.

02:09:41.400 And enrich your life.

02:09:43.380 It's the permanent adolescence of the coming generations.

02:09:47.600 They are, I look at wolves and I look at dogs and the story of how dogs came to be domesticated.

02:09:53.280 They say that dogs are effectively just permanent adolescent wolves.

02:09:56.180 I see that's what's happening to humanity right now with the current trend, telling people

02:09:59.880 not to grow up, play video games, stay home, stay single, live in your own internal world.

02:10:05.800 But I believe that is spiritual suicide.

02:10:07.800 That's the Peter Pan story.

02:10:09.400 Yeah, it is the Peter Pan story.

02:10:09.720 You know, and Peter Pan has Tinkerbell, the porn fairy.

02:10:13.320 Serious, dead serious.

02:10:14.720 I mean, he's king of the Lost Boys, right?

02:10:16.500 Well, that's a form of king.

02:10:18.600 It's not perhaps the kingship that you'd choose.

02:10:21.000 You know, and he forgoes the possibilities of maturity to remain in this childhood fantasy.

02:10:26.600 The only thing, our media is telling everybody to keep doing it.

02:10:30.700 They're telling you you're selfish if you try to live and have a family and experience what

02:10:36.280 you should be doing.

02:10:37.320 And also, I believe your moral duty, which is, for those that are religious, to be fruitful

02:10:42.060 and multiply.

02:10:42.980 But for the sake of humanity, if you look at it from a more secular point of view, something

02:10:46.320 like Elon Musk, if we do not reproduce, civilization collapses.

02:10:49.740 And they are telling people to just be hedonistic and to be permanent children.

02:10:53.100 But I, you know, I kind of disagree with you a bit about this, because people who do these

02:10:57.500 things, I've known a lot of them.

02:10:58.700 I worked in Hollywood for quite a while, and I've known a lot of people who live like that.

02:11:01.900 I don't think they're happy.

02:11:02.980 You know, I think they have that kind of surface, brittle, smiley happiness.

02:11:07.000 But you only have to question them, talk to them for 10, 20 minutes, and the depth of

02:11:11.300 despair underneath that.

02:11:12.500 It's like thin ice over a block.

02:11:14.040 Well, that's why the measurements are out.

02:11:15.600 The measurements are terribly out of whack.

02:11:17.400 It's like, if you're going to do research on something as fundamental as human well-being,

02:11:21.600 you bloody well better make sure your measurements are accurate.

02:11:23.720 We also need to establish, we have to establish the definition of happiness, which is like,

02:11:27.880 these guys are talking about happiness as though, in the way we talk about it in modern

02:11:32.300 times, which is as some fleeting little emotion, or you get tickled or something.

02:11:36.060 But, you know, happiness we used to understand as rational activity done with excellence in

02:11:41.640 accordance with virtue.

02:11:43.040 Aristotle wrote a very good book about this.

02:11:44.640 And so we used to believe that actually there was an end to mankind.

02:11:48.860 There was like a purpose for man.

02:11:50.280 There was a purpose for marriage.

02:11:51.400 We could know things by their purpose.

02:11:53.200 That ground has totally shaken underneath us.

02:11:56.560 So when we disagree over what makes us happy, unfortunately, the problem is even more fundamental.

02:12:02.100 We don't even agree on what happens.

02:12:03.180 Maybe this is actually why I always say this in a way that you, because we talk about this

02:12:08.180 from time to time and you guys disagree with me, but, you know, for example, 2023 was the

02:12:13.040 hardest year of my life.

02:12:15.000 I mean, it was genuinely traumatizingly hard.

02:12:18.280 And I still would have told you I was, I was miserable, but I was also happy.

02:12:22.520 Right.

02:12:22.720 I was, I was certainly not at my best, but I still would have considered myself a happy

02:12:29.740 person even in my misery.

02:12:31.440 And I, I think that it may be that I'm just defining happiness differently.

02:12:34.600 I don't think of happiness.

02:12:35.980 What was, what was it that would, what was it about your life that would have motivated

02:12:40.860 you to go through your situation?

02:12:41.920 I suppose that what I would say is that I was fulfilled.

02:12:44.560 Right, right, right.

02:12:45.580 Well, that's a multidimensional issue, right?

02:12:47.780 I mean, you can tolerate a lot of pain, even if your relationships are intact and you're

02:12:53.100 moving towards a purpose that you regard as worthwhile.

02:12:56.080 So, so one of, one of the things that's worthwhile to understand purely from the perspective of the

02:13:01.040 psychophysiology of happiness is that the positive emotion that's produced by drugs like

02:13:05.900 cocaine, for example, which make you happy, that positive emotion is always experienced in

02:13:11.300 relationship to a goal, right?

02:13:13.420 So that, the happiness that, that, that people strive towards is only possible psychopharmacologically

02:13:20.240 if you observe yourself moving towards a valued goal.

02:13:23.240 And so that, that has a number of implications.

02:13:25.860 One of which is no goal, no happiness, right?

02:13:30.040 Or, or maybe happiness of only the most fleeting and easily substituted kind.

02:13:34.980 We also know from animal research, for example, that it's very difficult, it's very easy to get

02:13:40.540 rats that are isolated in a cage addicted to cocaine.

02:13:44.180 And you can get them addicted rapidly to the point where they will basically not drink water

02:13:49.240 or eat or engage in sex.

02:13:50.760 They'll just push a button to get cocaine until they die.

02:13:53.420 But if they're living in their wild habitat and doing like normative rat things, it's almost

02:13:57.600 impossible to get them addicted to cocaine.

02:13:59.400 And so, and so even at the purely level of pure pharmacological reward, if you have animals in a

02:14:06.800 habitat where they're pursuing their intrinsic biologically determined goals, then they're

02:14:12.940 participating in processes that make them very resistant to alternative forms of fleeting

02:14:17.380 happiness.

02:14:18.200 And we've blown that all apart in our society.

02:14:20.260 And we don't know how much that's enraging.

02:14:22.280 I really think it's enraging young women in particular.

02:14:24.600 We have no, we have absolute, so we know that, for example, half of women who are 30

02:14:30.720 and under now don't have children.

02:14:32.860 Half of them.

02:14:33.380 Wow.

02:14:33.840 Right.

02:14:34.140 That we hit that milestone last year in the West.

02:14:36.680 Half of them will never have children.

02:14:38.720 That's the prognostication.

02:14:40.260 95% of them will regret that.

02:14:42.580 So we've already in a situation where we have doomed one woman in four to permanent isolation

02:14:48.580 and alienation.

02:14:49.800 Isolation and alienation.

02:14:51.060 And we have no idea how angry they are about that.

02:14:54.620 But you can be sure that they're angry at a level that's so deep that you can barely

02:14:58.620 comprehend it.

02:14:59.420 And you're not even allowed to talk about it because you're offending them by saying

02:15:02.480 that the childless cat lady is not in a good position to judge the future.

02:15:07.160 And this thing about time is everything, right?

02:15:09.380 I mean, you have kids and it's difficult, but it's a beautiful experience.

02:15:12.300 It's an enriching experience.

02:15:13.360 And it's the experience that turns life from two dimensions into three dimensions.

02:15:18.060 And at some point, it's incredibly rewarding to have done it.

02:15:21.540 You know, I mean, I can sit and look at my grandchildren without doing anything for hours.

02:15:25.140 I actually said to my wife, we have to go because I'll never accomplish anything ever

02:15:29.080 again because I'm just happy watching the kids playing with Legos.

02:15:32.100 You know, it's like...

02:15:32.760 Then I'm the rat with the job.

02:15:34.880 And maybe the reason that I consider myself, even when I'm sort of miserable to be a happy

02:15:38.780 person, is connected to the fact that I'm not a fun-loving person.

02:15:42.260 Like, I don't get any sense of joy out of drinking booze or going to loud clubs.

02:15:48.960 Having a good time is not your idea of having a good time.

02:15:51.260 That is exactly right.

02:15:53.360 To me, having a good time is being about my purpose.

02:15:57.420 That's the source.

02:15:58.580 And that's why having children has increased my happiness.

02:16:00.840 Well, you've both alluded to something that's fundamentally important on the measurement

02:16:04.280 side, too.

02:16:04.920 It's like almost all the things that people do in their life that they look back on with,

02:16:09.720 let's say, self-assurance and something approximating reasonable pride are things they

02:16:15.120 accomplished under difficult circumstances.

02:16:16.700 They were hard, yeah.

02:16:17.580 Now, those aren't necessarily the things you pick for your hedonic pleasure.

02:16:21.740 But when you look back, you think, well, that was extremely difficult and demanding and

02:16:25.760 challenging.

02:16:26.120 And there was a fair bit of suffering moment to moment while I was going through it.

02:16:29.700 But man, I'm certainly more than pleased that I managed it.

02:16:33.280 And there is this thing.

02:16:34.120 There's this thing.

02:16:34.720 I call it joy.

02:16:35.820 The poets used to call it gusto.

02:16:37.340 It was just being alive, you know, being in that moment.

02:16:39.380 And thinking like, yeah, here I am.

02:16:41.160 You know, I compare it sometimes when you go to a movie and you watch somebody, a character

02:16:44.780 dies and you cry.

02:16:46.000 And then you come out and people say, how was the movie?

02:16:47.680 And you say, it was great.

02:16:49.120 And life is kind of like that a lot of times if you're paying attention.

02:16:52.140 Yeah, I think of happiness as if you're doing the things that you ought to be doing, then

02:16:57.320 you're happy, sort of regardless of how you may feel in any given moment while you're

02:17:01.520 doing that thing.

02:17:02.560 And if you're doing the things that you ought not be doing, then you're in despair, regardless

02:17:06.480 of how you feel in a moment.

02:17:08.080 And when that question comes up, I think back to our first film, What is a Woman?, when

02:17:13.080 we went to Kenya, to the Maasai tribe.

02:17:16.200 And there's a lot of conversations we had with the tribesmen that didn't make it into

02:17:19.580 film because it wasn't exactly relevant to the topic of transgenderism.

02:17:23.500 But I remember multiple times when we were talking to the, especially the women, and I

02:17:27.680 would ask them, are you happy?

02:17:29.220 And every single time they would respond by saying, through the translator, they would respond

02:17:34.680 by telling me about the things that they do.

02:17:37.440 They say, well, I'm taking care of my family.

02:17:40.220 I have a family.

02:17:40.880 I have children.

02:17:41.680 I take care of the home.

02:17:43.260 That wasn't even the question.

02:17:44.140 I said, are you happy?

02:17:45.400 And their immediate response is to talk about the things that they do.

02:17:48.440 I'm performing my appropriate function.

02:17:49.800 Right, because then there's no distinction.

02:17:51.140 The idea that they could be doing the things that they ought to be doing and not be happy,

02:17:55.260 it's like, doesn't even make sense.

02:17:56.100 Well, that also indicates that in our society, we've abstracted the emotion away from its

02:18:02.600 performative foundation.

02:18:04.680 And we treat happiness as if it's an abstraction that exists in and of itself.

02:18:09.040 And there's foolishness in that.

02:18:11.060 And you also pointed to something else that's very interesting.

02:18:14.060 You know, when you ask people, it's very hard to ask people a question properly and get

02:18:19.740 an answer that's reliable.

02:18:20.960 It's very, very hard to do that.

02:18:22.500 And psychologists have concentrated on doing that for decades.

02:18:25.080 It's a whole field of endeavor.

02:18:27.140 One of the things you discover if you do research into what people mean when they say that they

02:18:32.000 just want to be happy is what they actually mean is they don't want to suffer.

02:18:35.600 So you can imagine that there's two elements to happiness.

02:18:38.020 One is not too much negative emotion.

02:18:41.780 And the other is some positive emotion.

02:18:44.260 And if you push people into a corner, they'll pick absence of negative emotion over presence

02:18:48.760 of positive emotion every time.

02:18:50.460 Because pain is extraordinarily salient.

02:18:53.340 And so part of what people mean when they want to be happy, when they say they want

02:18:56.760 to be happy, means is that they want to be secure in their foundation, which is not

02:19:01.540 at all the same thing as pursuing the hedonic pleasure that would be duplicable, say, with

02:19:05.720 cocaine.

02:19:06.160 I have to interrupt.

02:19:07.200 Yeah, I was good to say.

02:19:07.640 Because there's an election happening.

02:19:08.520 Oh, yes.

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02:19:12.420 Just go, baby.

02:19:13.380 Huge piece of news.

02:19:15.680 Truly a must-win state, in my opinion, for Trump.

02:19:18.700 North Carolina now firmly in hand.

02:19:21.280 And another great sort of victory, not only national victory, but even personal victory.

02:19:26.520 They're also declaring Ted Cruz has won his Tennessee in Texas.

02:19:31.080 As we said while Dennis was here, Ted was actually kind of on the ropes a little bit in a very

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02:19:38.280 But in these last weeks, I mean, he's done an enormous job down in Texas, an enormous job

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02:21:43.700 Because, of course, Donald Trump, with a little good Lord willing, the crick don't rise, as they say, will be our 47th president.

02:21:50.400 Ben.

02:21:50.800 Yes.

02:21:51.400 What are we learning?

02:21:51.900 He's going to put it out there.

02:21:53.500 He's going to win all the Sunbelt states.

02:21:54.480 Okay?

02:21:54.680 So this is just going to come down to what we always thought was going to come down to, those blue wall states.

02:21:59.520 She has to win all three.

02:22:00.820 That is her only path to victory.

02:22:02.420 She needs to win all three of those states.

02:22:04.720 The great irony, the thing I'm rooting so hard for, more than anything else, is that it comes down to Pennsylvania, and she loses Pennsylvania because she wouldn't pick the Jew.

02:22:13.120 It would be the most wonderful thing in the entire world.

02:22:16.080 I would love it so much that her signal moral inability to condemn the pro-Hamas quadrant of her base loses her the election because she just couldn't pick the Jewish guy from the swing state with the 60% approval rating.

02:22:29.020 Yeah, but I—

02:22:29.580 Serve her so right.

02:22:30.320 She felt like she was on the ropes in Minnesota, right?

02:22:32.500 Wasn't that why she—

02:22:33.180 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:22:33.800 She needed the weird guy from Minnesota.

02:22:35.200 She needed the very popular governor of the obvious swing state.

02:22:37.980 What she required was the super weird guy who looks like an inflatable off the side of a freeway to use car a lot.

02:22:44.040 And that's the one she needed.

02:22:45.700 In fairness to Kamala, so she offended all the Jews.

02:22:48.120 Wait, why couldn't you have just said, in fairness to inflatable?

02:22:50.440 Yeah, in fairness to him, like, good press.

02:22:52.920 But not only did she offend all the Jews by not picking Shapiro because she wanted to cozy up to the pro-Hamas side.

02:22:59.640 Also, let's not forget, one in four voters in Pennsylvania is Catholic, and she decides two weeks before the election to say, hey, you say Jesus is Lord?

02:23:08.440 Get out of my rally.

02:23:09.600 You've got to go to that Trump rally.

02:23:10.820 Who says she never tells the truth?

02:23:14.400 One time, what's even worse than that is when she went on national TV, and they said, will you make any religious exemptions for abortion?

02:23:19.860 And she was like, nope.

02:23:20.960 The nuns are going to be aborting the babies.

02:23:22.560 They're like, whoa.

02:23:23.500 It's going to come down—the problem with the Rust Belt thing is the Rust Belt has—those three states have voted exactly the same since the 70s, haven't they?

02:23:32.900 Has there been a single exception?

02:23:34.000 Has there been a time where Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania didn't vote in lockstep with one another since we've been alive except for—

02:23:42.640 That is a great question.

02:23:43.740 But I'm trying to think of a situation in which the election was super close.

02:23:50.920 So in 2016, obviously, they went one way.

02:23:52.760 In 2020, they went the other way.

02:23:54.660 In 2004, they actually went for Kerry, and it was Ohio that won the election for Bush.

02:24:00.540 So, you know, when everything is this close, when everything is this tight, I mean, the thing is, when we talk about presidential history, and you'll say, is there a precedent for this?

02:24:09.680 The sample size is just too small.

02:24:11.060 I mean, that's the reality.

02:24:11.940 They'll say, well, this is the first time this has happened in 20 years.

02:24:14.240 Okay, fine.

02:24:14.720 So that's like five election cycles.

02:24:15.700 Right, right, right.

02:24:16.140 The sample size is super tiny.

02:24:17.460 There's not 180 baseball games a year.

02:24:19.200 Exactly.

02:24:19.860 Let's check in with Brent Buchanan.

02:24:24.320 So, Brent, tell us about life.

02:24:27.260 Well, what's going on?

02:24:28.500 Well, you know, it looks as though the Sun Belt is locking up for Trump, is what it's starting to look like.

02:24:36.360 I mean, it's calling Georgia, obviously, a little bit early, and Arizona really, really early.

02:24:39.620 But it looks like those states are looking fairly good for Trump.

02:24:42.220 What do you make of, you know, the Rust Belt and the Sun Belt right now?

02:24:45.860 Well, let's talk about North Carolina specifically, because this ties back to something that I don't even know what time it is right now.

02:24:51.880 But a few hours ago that we spoke of, and that's turnout potentially and likely being higher than 2020.

02:24:59.620 So if we're looking at North Carolina specifically, in 2020, turnout was about 5.4 million in North Carolina.

02:25:07.620 If you take the percent reporting now, add in those estimated votes remaining, it puts you at 5.8 million.

02:25:14.380 So when we were looking at our turnout curve, we knew that once you got to about 5.6 or 7, that put it in somewhat Kamala territory.

02:25:23.100 And then if you went beyond that, you almost had no clue what was going to happen.

02:25:26.660 Well, now we actually have a clue what happens when you go above 2020 turnout, and it benefits Donald Trump.

02:25:32.360 So let's look at a couple counties here.

02:25:34.860 I want to start with Brunswick.

02:25:36.380 Brunswick, and so this is a really strong reporting Republican county.

02:25:41.140 And you can see here, let me show you the historical comparison.

02:25:44.640 There's actually not that much difference.

02:25:47.260 If anything, it was slightly closer.

02:25:50.180 But this county actually, as of right now, has netted out 1,000 more votes for Donald Trump than last time,

02:25:56.860 even though the margin's a little closer.

02:25:58.920 And so I think this is really indicative of what happens when turnout goes above 2020 numbers.

02:26:05.480 Let's zoom in here to Wake County, which is the seat of the state with Raleigh.

02:26:12.260 And you can see here that Harris is doing a little bit better.

02:26:16.120 Trump is doing a little bit worse.

02:26:18.180 It's only reporting 75% right now.

02:26:20.680 What's likely going to happen is that this improves for Donald Trump in this final 25% that's coming in.

02:26:26.920 And then if we come over here to Pitt County, so this county is about 30, let's see here,

02:26:32.860 we'll go to the census data for a second.

02:26:34.380 So it's 37% black on census.

02:26:38.420 So it's for a state that is below that overall, this is a slightly more black county than the state as a whole.

02:26:45.760 And then when we look at this historical comparison, what you'll see in Pitt is that this was a margin of about 9.4 for Biden in 20.

02:26:54.120 And that moved to 5.6 margin for Harris.

02:26:57.680 And what's really interesting is that it had already moved three points to the right between 16 and 20.

02:27:03.640 And so when you start to put this math together and you see that these Republican counties are performing very well,

02:27:08.840 and even if they don't perform at the same margin for Trump, they're actually netting out more votes into the overall count.

02:27:14.940 And then you look at a place like Pitt County that, as you can see, is blue on the map, but it is less blue, and it is becoming less blue.

02:27:23.500 And I think this is a really, really good example of this educational attainment realignment that's been happening in this country,

02:27:30.240 where if 20 years ago you were a college grad, you were probably a Republican.

02:27:33.960 20 years ago you were a non-college grad, you were probably a Democrat.

02:27:38.140 Those bases are beginning to shift.

02:27:40.540 And as we look at that, what our experimental exit polling shows so far on our internals

02:27:46.420 is that that realignment among non-white voters is even more extreme than the continued shift that we see with white voters.

02:27:54.400 So as we look at these three counties here, Brunswick in the south, a very heavy Republican county netting out more for Trump,

02:28:02.240 Wake County, the rest of this reporting going to be better for Trump, and then Pitt County,

02:28:06.980 this is the third election in a row with Donald Trump on the ballot where his margin improves,

02:28:12.120 and even his raw vote improves here.

02:28:15.740 You start to see how once we get into this explosive, crazy, wild, who knew we could go above 2020 and turn out,

02:28:25.220 the answer is we're starting to see a trend that it is benefiting Donald Trump.

02:28:29.720 Who's turning out in larger numbers?

02:28:32.220 Is there a particular demographic?

02:28:34.360 We don't have that yet.

02:28:35.700 We can look at some of these counties, and that's why I really like Pitt specifically here,

02:28:39.800 because it is more black than the state as a whole.

02:28:42.400 And if this was like 2020, if the numbers were coming back like that,

02:28:47.620 I would say that I don't know why they would have called North Carolina,

02:28:50.520 but you can look at this as an example and say, okay,

02:28:52.840 I start to see why they went ahead and called North Carolina,

02:28:55.680 despite the fact that it's only 61 percent reporting right now,

02:28:59.180 because we're talking about 5.8 plus million turnout, which is just incredible.

02:29:03.940 Yeah, so Brent, one of the things that people are pointing out is that it is a very good time for Trump,

02:29:08.600 not just that North Carolina has been called, but that it's been called so early,

02:29:11.600 meaning that the patterns in data seem to be benefiting President Trump.

02:29:16.500 The sort of theory of the electorate, which was that a high turnout election was going to benefit inevitably the Democrats,

02:29:22.640 is obviously not true.

02:29:25.060 And you're seeing this reflected in some of the data.

02:29:27.260 I mean, the needle over at The New York Times, the all-powerful needle,

02:29:30.480 is now officially leaning Trump a 67 percent chance of victory for President Trump,

02:29:34.820 according to the vaunted New York Times needle.

02:29:37.340 And they are also suggesting that President Trump has a slight up chance.

02:29:42.660 Basically, Brent, if you have to speculate at this point, we'll just rank speculation.

02:29:47.160 Kamala Harris needs to win Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin in order to win this election.

02:29:50.740 If you had to ballpark this thing, that is the most likely scenario at this point, is it not?

02:29:54.620 Yeah, once North Carolina is off of the map, it puts her right into that vaunted, quote, blue wall

02:30:00.400 that in 2020 is what won the election, more so even than Georgia and Arizona.

02:30:06.640 It was going back to winning Michigan, Wisconsin, and Pennsylvania.

02:30:10.340 And right now, as we're looking at Pennsylvania, you can see that it's a complete coin toss at this point.

02:30:16.060 And what's fascinating is that we're likely to see massive, massive turnout above 2020 for this state also.

02:30:21.960 And so as we compare a place like Pennsylvania to North Carolina, where the increased turnout really benefited Donald Trump,

02:30:30.940 we don't have enough vote in yet in Pennsylvania to say the same thing.

02:30:34.540 But they're both experiencing increased turnout over 2020, but we're seeing slightly different results.

02:30:41.240 I mean, if the theory was simply that more turnout over 20 is better for Donald Trump,

02:30:47.340 then we could go ahead and call Pennsylvania too.

02:30:49.100 But as you can see on the Decision Desk HQ right here, win probability, it's a complete coin flip.

02:30:55.980 Well, Brent, really appreciate it.

02:30:57.600 We'll get back to you very shortly with the latest updates.

02:31:01.300 Again, thanks to our friends over at both PDS Dead and Lumen for their sponsorship of our program here tonight.

02:31:06.600 So, yeah, lots of breaking news.

02:31:07.940 Obviously, Senator Cruz has been declared the victor over there.

02:31:10.620 That means that Republicans have probably a minimum of 52 seats in the United States Senate.

02:31:14.860 It also means that Republicans are doing better than expected so far in the House.

02:31:19.260 So there were serious questions about whether they're going to be able to retain the House majority.

02:31:22.520 So far, it looks like at least a coin flip as to whether they're able to retain that House majority,

02:31:27.140 which is actually better shape than a lot of people were expecting at this point in time.

02:31:31.560 Again, for those who missed it, North Carolina has been called.

02:31:34.320 The map is basically what you thought the map was going to be before this evening.

02:31:37.760 New Hampshire has been called in favor of Kamala Harris.

02:31:39.840 North Carolina has been called in favor of President Trump.

02:31:42.000 The Georgia votes are still coming in, but at this point, you have to say that President Trump is, in fact, favored in Georgia.

02:31:48.980 Arizona, he was leading pretty heavily in the early balloting anyway, so the chances are very good that he is going to win Arizona as well.

02:31:55.060 That means that Kamala Harris right now has to win in the blue wall states.

02:31:59.500 She needs to win all three of those blue wall states.

02:32:02.060 That'd be Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Michigan.

02:32:04.880 There's not enough data yet.

02:32:06.100 There is some early Pennsylvania voting data that is coming in.

02:32:08.900 They've got about 2.2 million votes counted there, 2.3 million votes counted there, according to the latest numbers.

02:32:15.420 You're looking at Kamala with a very slight advantage.

02:32:18.240 So far, things are going better than we had hoped.

02:32:20.060 We have the North Carolina win is the thing that I was the most worried about.

02:32:23.120 So in the same way that Ben had his positive outlier, that if Trump won New Hampshire,

02:32:28.920 he thought that that would be like kind of the runaway indicator that we were going to have a runaway goodnight.

02:32:33.520 To me, North Carolina was the obvious, Trump loses North Carolina, it just pretends terrible things.

02:32:38.960 So having that off the table, huge.

02:32:40.780 Having Ted Cruz pick up that seat or hang on to his Senate seat in Texas, huge.

02:32:46.380 The fact that we will almost certainly be able, as Republicans, to hold the Senate, absolutely huge.

02:32:51.680 The House, we're guaranteed in the Senate.

02:32:54.340 That's right.

02:32:54.600 We're now guaranteed in the Senate.

02:32:55.660 You want a big piece of data?

02:32:56.460 Here's a nice piece of data for you.

02:32:57.760 Again, exit polling, grain of salt, giant grain of salt.

02:32:59.860 CBS News exit poll in Michigan, younger voters aged 18 to 29 are narrowly going for Trump.

02:33:04.940 Crazy.

02:33:05.520 That is a crazy.

02:33:06.920 That's the craziest number.

02:33:07.840 That's a crazy stat.

02:33:08.500 I wouldn't have to expect that.

02:33:08.800 And that would be a Gaza stat, right?

02:33:11.040 That would be, seriously, that would be all of the left-wing insane people on the left who wouldn't vote for Kamala Harris

02:33:17.020 because they think by some bizarre turn of the imagination that she's too pro-Israel.

02:33:21.920 You have to be a psychotic nutjob to think that Kamala Harris is too pro-Israel.

02:33:25.940 But somehow they've come up with that one.

02:33:27.380 And I'm grateful to them for that.

02:33:28.860 I hope that Jill Stein wins a million votes in the state of Michigan, that she and Cornel West just run away in that election.

02:33:34.800 But also it would be young men.

02:33:35.960 I mean, young men might be.

02:33:37.120 That's what I think.

02:33:37.640 Yeah, I'm wondering about that with regards to the increased turnout, too.

02:33:41.100 If it's the same young men who are going back to church who are actually turning up to vote.

02:33:43.660 Do we have the gender dynamics on that?

02:33:45.240 So, yeah, no gender dynamics on that one yet.

02:33:48.400 But you have to imagine, obviously, that you're talking about a heavy male turnout there.

02:33:52.040 It turns out that there are no white dudes for Harris.

02:33:54.080 There is just white dude for Harris.

02:33:55.480 And you have to trust Doug Emhoff, maybe, technically.

02:33:59.160 If she keeps her mouth in line.

02:34:00.360 Yeah, honestly.

02:34:01.260 She's in line, right?

02:34:02.740 I think the last thing Doug Emhoff wants is to be stuck in the White House with Kamala Harris for four years.

02:34:09.900 I really think that he's tired of this by this point.

02:34:12.280 The New York Times, that needle.

02:34:13.780 Come on, needle.

02:34:14.540 The needle currently has Donald Trump at a 70% chance of victory in the Electoral College.

02:34:21.100 And Harris at plus .2 in the popular vote estimate.

02:34:25.100 So there is every possibility here that Donald Trump ends up winning both the popular and the electoral for the first time for Republicans since 2004.

02:34:32.020 How do we feel about Virginia?

02:34:33.160 I was just going to say, that was just what I was going to say.

02:34:35.520 62% of the vote is in.

02:34:36.960 Trump is up 2%.

02:34:38.020 And they're still calling it for Kamala Harris.

02:34:40.540 Well, again, I'm not an expert on the counties, and I would assume that all the counties that they have not yet counted are like Fairfax, like big Dem counties.

02:34:47.140 Just no, they're not.

02:34:48.080 That's what I'm saying.

02:34:48.860 Looking at the map, that's not what I said.

02:34:50.560 Okay, so election expert Andrew Klavan is uncalling Virginia.

02:34:53.420 No, no, no, no.

02:34:53.600 I have said I'm not a poll reader.

02:34:55.220 I get it.

02:34:55.600 I'm just telling you what I'm looking at.

02:34:57.200 I will say that MSNBC is already starting to rip on the Electoral College.

02:35:02.160 So once they start yelling at the Electoral College, you know that things are not going amazingly well over there.

02:35:11.420 There, again, what we are saying is something that was noted earlier on, which is a shift in favor of Kamala Harris in the suburbs, but mildly huge turnout for President Trump.

02:35:20.420 Again, this is the magic of Trump.

02:35:21.840 Okay, the thing that Trump can do that no other Republican candidate of my lifetime can do is bring out low propensity voters.

02:35:26.880 The Mitt Romney plan in 2012 was bring out high propensity college white voters and get those people to vote in larger numbers for him than they voted for John McCain.

02:35:35.120 And Donald Trump's plan was to abandon all those people and go get the farmers to vote for him.

02:35:38.440 And as it turns out, that's actually his magic.

02:35:41.520 He's like that.

02:35:41.960 And the Democrats.

02:35:42.680 And, by the way, and Hispanics.

02:35:44.060 Like, again, the Hispanics, we are watching a sea change, regardless of the final line in this election.

02:35:50.180 Some of the trend lines that you're seeing in this election are astonishing.

02:35:52.560 I mean, Donald Trump winning, let's say, 20% of the black vote in Wisconsin.

02:35:56.760 Crazy.

02:35:57.160 Or you say Donald Trump winning 45% of the Hispanic vote.

02:36:00.480 If the entire theory of Democratic politics since 2012 has been we cobble together minorities and single white ladies.

02:36:06.620 And that is our coalition.

02:36:08.820 And then you break minority strangleholds.

02:36:11.940 What are they left with?

02:36:13.060 I mean, as we move forward, they might be able to sneak one out.

02:36:15.600 Maybe, maybe eek one out.

02:36:17.400 But what does that be tied for the rest of their agenda?

02:36:21.360 And do we think that they swivel more to the center or do they move further away?

02:36:24.720 By the way, Trump has just been announced as the winner of Iowa.

02:36:26.800 So sad news for the end.

02:36:28.980 Oh, no, no, no.

02:36:31.240 What's the gap?

02:36:33.140 I don't have a gap yet.

02:36:34.400 There's only a couple percent of votes.

02:36:36.720 I called it a 10%.

02:36:37.760 Donald Trump winning Iowa may be the political shocker of the 2024 election.

02:36:44.820 The poll, that outlier poll that said Kamala was going to win Iowa, it did spook me.

02:36:49.540 I don't know.

02:36:50.180 It was designed to spook me.

02:36:51.520 That was the whole point of it, and it succeeded.

02:36:53.520 And people kept saying it was a respected poll, but in fact, it has not been that accurate at presidential elections.

02:36:58.560 Meanwhile, Donald Trump is in the New York Times needle.

02:37:03.640 The needle.

02:37:04.660 The magic needle.

02:37:05.780 Come on, needle.

02:37:06.780 He is slightly favored in Wisconsin at this point as well.

02:37:11.020 So it's possible that my original map was right except for New Hampshire.

02:37:14.560 So I'm still rooting for my original map, but now that I've lost New Hampshire.

02:37:17.840 If he breaks Wisconsin off from Michigan and Pennsylvania, that is a path to the White House as well.

02:37:23.780 Then he's in the White House.

02:37:24.840 By the way, the Florida-Puerto Rican vote, again, just to point out that the media narrative is not real.

02:37:29.020 So the Florida-Puerto Rican vote, Harris won the demographic 52-43 per the exits.

02:37:33.780 52-43 among Puerto Ricans in Florida.

02:37:36.380 Biden won that group 69-31.

02:37:38.620 So it went from Dem plus 38 to Dem plus 9.

02:37:40.820 They thought it was a funny joke.

02:37:43.620 And now we're joined by the host of Dr. Phil, Dr. Phil himself.

02:37:49.540 Thanks for being with us.

02:37:50.180 Hey, good to see you guys.

02:37:53.580 Things are getting pretty interesting, I understand.

02:37:56.520 How's it looking to you guys over there?

02:37:59.320 You know, I'm moving steadily from cautiously optimistic to openly optimistic, and it's an uncomfortable feeling for me, to be honest with you.

02:38:06.260 You can see him squirming.

02:38:08.400 How are you feeling about things?

02:38:11.000 Well, same way.

02:38:12.400 I heard somebody earlier say they were nauseously optimistic.

02:38:15.340 You know, Dr. Phil, I have to ask, you know, I was at the MSG rally when none of us were expecting you to be there.

02:38:25.060 There was, whatever, you know, eight hours worth of speeches.

02:38:28.020 And when you came out, I think it genuinely shocked the crowd.

02:38:31.280 Not because we thought that you were a big leftist or something like that, but that it entailed so much risk for you to come out at this point.

02:38:39.680 You've been a huge figure in media for so many years.

02:38:42.980 What pushed you over the edge?

02:38:46.100 Well, you know, I wanted to do something that woke people up, because I think this has been such a divisive campaign.

02:38:56.380 And, you know, when I came out, I said, look, I'm not here to endorse, just to endorse Donald Trump.

02:39:02.480 I don't like everything he says.

02:39:04.240 I don't like everything that he does.

02:39:07.520 And I'm honest about that.

02:39:09.340 I'm honest about that with him.

02:39:10.660 But I don't like bullies.

02:39:14.000 And I don't like the way people that vote for Donald Trump are being ostracized, canceled on the Internet, attacked, and all of that.

02:39:23.220 And I said, that's bullying.

02:39:25.400 And people can say, well, Donald Trump's a bully.

02:39:29.080 Well, you know, you've got to have an imbalance of power to be a bully.

02:39:33.940 Otherwise, you're just in a fight or an argument.

02:39:36.240 And I said, there's a big difference.

02:39:39.960 And I wanted people to understand, we've got to start having some civility to what's going on here.

02:39:47.000 And I made it real clear.

02:39:48.180 Whoever is elected president, we have to get behind.

02:39:52.060 It's a bad look internationally if we don't support our president.

02:39:55.680 And I won't like it if it doesn't go the way I want it to go.

02:39:59.960 But that will be our president.

02:40:01.920 And I won't like everything that either of the candidates says or does.

02:40:06.240 But I'll support America's president.

02:40:08.680 And I said, one of the most important days in my life was 9-12-01.

02:40:15.320 Not 9-11, but 9-12.

02:40:17.140 Because the morning after 9-11, we woke up and we were all Americans.

02:40:22.000 And I hope that doesn't, we don't have to have a big catastrophe for us to have that feeling again.

02:40:28.860 And Dr. Phil, one question for you is, obviously, you really believe in individualism.

02:40:33.540 That's something that ranks very high on your list.

02:40:35.840 Many of the stats that are coming in right now show that we are watching a major political realignment in real time on a racial basis.

02:40:42.560 That this sort of stranglehold idea that the Democrats were going to win enormous, overwhelming sums of minority voters across the spectrum, that's just not true.

02:40:50.780 The biggest stat of the night so far is Trump winning maybe 45 percent of the Hispanic vote and up to 25 percent of the black male vote, according to Kirsten Solstice-Anderson, my friend, the pollster over at Echelon Insights.

02:41:02.500 She's done some exit polling suggesting that black men, 23 percent, are going to vote for President Trump nationally, which is an unheard of number.

02:41:08.680 What do you make of this sort of political realignment?

02:41:10.340 Well, I think you're saying it exactly right, Ben.

02:41:14.120 I think it is a political realignment because people are saying, look, I'm tired of people telling me that because I'm part of a demographically defined group that I can't think for myself.

02:41:25.840 And you've heard me talk very loud and long about the fact that we have to teach critical thinking in this country again.

02:41:32.280 We've got to inspire people to be critical thinkers.

02:41:34.540 That's why I've spoken out so much about these ridiculous campus protest groups that are demonstrating on behalf of Hamas.

02:41:45.000 These are terrorist groups.

02:41:47.200 And we're not teaching young people to be critical thinkers anymore.

02:41:50.640 And we've got this half of America that are truly identity politics.

02:41:56.060 People are smart enough to think for themselves.

02:41:59.240 And we're seeing it now where people are rebelling against this expectation that because I'm black or because I'm female or because I'm a certain age that I have to vote with that block.

02:42:10.640 That's not true.

02:42:11.360 People can think for themselves.

02:42:12.660 Well, the Democrats are also, I suppose, running afoul of their own intersectional claims.

02:42:18.100 It's like there are black men.

02:42:21.520 And it isn't obvious that men are doing that well on the Democrat side.

02:42:26.100 And that's because the Democrats don't really seem to like men.

02:42:28.780 And so maybe it's like, well, they've done everything they could, you might say, from an ideological perspective to attack, to attract the black vote.

02:42:38.140 But they've abandoned the male vote.

02:42:40.760 And maybe the black men are men first and black second from the intersectional perspective.

02:42:45.700 Or at least 23% of them seem to be considering that.

02:42:49.100 Well, it's an interesting prospect because gender is actually real.

02:42:52.500 And while race isn't not real, it's not fixed.

02:42:57.120 Yeah.

02:42:57.780 So we're told that.

02:42:59.060 It's not definitive.

02:42:59.900 It's not definitive.

02:43:00.620 Yeah.

02:43:00.740 We're told that gender is fluid.

02:43:02.700 But it's actually race that over time is fluid.

02:43:04.740 Yeah.

02:43:05.640 Men are men.

02:43:06.980 Barack Obama is going to be very disappointed in black men because we know that he—

02:43:10.980 No, no, no.

02:43:11.480 Brother.

02:43:11.880 The brothers.

02:43:12.360 The brothers.

02:43:13.020 There's naughty brothers.

02:43:14.480 Men, Democrats don't understand this.

02:43:17.120 Like, there's nothing men hate more than being nagged.

02:43:20.460 And Barack Obama is literally wagging his finger in the faces of black men saying, you need to get out there and vote.

02:43:26.520 If you want to speak to men and motivate men, that's the very last way to do it.

02:43:30.100 No, no, no.

02:43:30.400 You have to send Michelle to do that.

02:43:31.620 Yeah.

02:43:31.880 She then did, right?

02:43:32.780 She got up there and lectured black men about how they were irresponsible and terrible,

02:43:35.900 which, of course, is definitely what they want to hear from Michelle Obama.

02:43:39.340 By the way, CNN is now reporting that Harris has some warning signs in Michigan.

02:43:42.880 She's underperforming Joe Biden in a place like Washtenaw County, which is a very heavily Democratic area.

02:43:47.700 So, obviously, as goes Michigan, so goes the country.

02:43:51.500 It's possible.

02:43:52.740 Again, fingers crossed.

02:43:54.680 You know what's strange about the polling, though?

02:43:56.080 What's very odd in terms of black voters is that Kamala Harris came out and she said that the brothers were supporting her because she had recently been in the barbershop.

02:44:05.980 And she made this claim about a week ago.

02:44:08.140 I did not have the resources to fact check it, though my gut instinct tells me Kamala Harris has never once in her entire life been in the barbershop.

02:44:15.560 And it would seem that the hard numbers we're getting here suggest the brothers breaking, at least in a significant way, for President Trump.

02:44:22.600 By the way, New York Times needle in Iowa, estimated margin, Trump up nine in Iowa.

02:44:27.480 Remember that time when he was supposed to lose by three?

02:44:29.320 That is an 11 to 12 point miss by Ann Seltzer in Iowa.

02:44:33.040 And remember, that was being used as a bellwether to determine whether there was going to be extra turnout for her in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania.

02:44:39.700 So if he's winning Iowa, Emerson, right, had Iowa at plus nine.

02:44:43.800 Emerson also had Donald Trump winning all three of those Rust Belt states.

02:44:47.280 Let me jump in here and get you a couple of calls from our desk here because, Chris, you've got a couple of calls for us here.

02:44:54.840 Thank you, Dr. Phil.

02:44:55.620 Merit TV now calling the state of Missouri and its 10 electoral votes for Donald Trump.

02:45:00.660 You see that on your screen here.

02:45:01.960 That's with 20 percent of the precinct reporting.

02:45:04.260 And also Delaware and its three electoral college votes for Kamala Harris.

02:45:08.840 And you see those numbers right there.

02:45:10.780 Dr. Phil, I should also point out that North Carolina, we're getting really close to closing that one out.

02:45:15.480 That one's leaning towards Trump at last report.

02:45:18.040 We're getting really close to closing out Colorado.

02:45:20.140 And at the top of the hour, which is now just one minute away, polls will be closing in Montana, Idaho, Nevada, most of, I'm sorry, most of Idaho, Utah, and Nevada.

02:45:31.400 Yeah, that's great.

02:45:32.500 And, you know, guys, if, Ben, if we close out North Carolina for Trump soon, that can be a real building block in the March to 270.

02:45:44.600 You've called North Carolina?

02:45:45.260 Yeah, we've called it right.

02:45:45.980 North Carolina's been called.

02:45:47.000 So as far as we're concerned, we're not talking about North Carolina anymore.

02:45:49.740 It's over.

02:45:50.560 North Carolina's done.

02:45:52.000 But, yeah.

02:45:53.380 Basically, practically speaking, you take North Carolina off the table for Kamala Harris, and she has one path and one path only.

02:45:59.100 That's the Rust Belt state.

02:46:00.180 She has to win all three of them.

02:46:01.740 And right now she wins.

02:46:02.280 What if she wins all three but loses Virginia?

02:46:03.960 Well, I mean.

02:46:07.280 Well, right now there are some more CNN exit poll numbers, again, with the giant grain of salt.

02:46:12.740 This is the bimarital status.

02:46:14.400 Kamala Harris is losing married voters 55 to 44.

02:46:17.780 She's winning non-married voters by 55 to 41, which is actually shockingly not horrific.

02:46:23.820 Yeah, you would have thought that was like a 25, 30-point gap, by the way they were pushing this.

02:46:26.940 Meanwhile, the gender gap definitely exists, but it is heavier, according to CNN, for males than it is for females.

02:46:32.560 54 to 43 for Trump among males.

02:46:34.920 It is 54 to 44 among females for Kamala Harris.

02:46:38.540 So, again, this is going to be – if Trump wins, it's because men showed up to vote.

02:46:43.180 That's really what this is about, men actually showing up to vote.

02:46:45.480 So, the kind of going theory of the Democratic Party is that women are high-propensity voters.

02:46:49.700 Men are low-propensity voters.

02:46:50.840 They've constituted the majority.

02:46:52.500 Women have constituted the majority of people who vote in the last several election cycles.

02:46:56.700 Men showing up en masse to vote is a complete shift in the way that elections are doing.

02:47:00.960 Can I just say, by the way, that we tend, when we talk about this, to sound like we're being very hard on women.

02:47:06.000 I'm actually – I believe that it's a man's responsibility.

02:47:08.640 I love women.

02:47:09.380 Are you kidding?

02:47:09.620 No, it's a man's responsibility to do things like vote, and we happen to live in this time where men have essentially given up so many of their responsibilities,

02:47:20.220 in part because they feel disenfranchised, although that's hardly an excuse.

02:47:24.040 You know, men have given up their leadership role in the church, which is one of the reasons that you see the church in America no longer taking the stands for tradition and decency in the way that it historically has.

02:47:33.920 They've given up their responsibility in the household, which is something that the Kamala Harris, at least PACs aligned with Kamala Harris, have been trying to openly exploit with their,

02:47:43.120 hey, ladies, just don't tell your loser, idiot, husband who you vote for.

02:47:46.760 And they've certainly given up their responsibility, their civic responsibilities.

02:47:51.080 You know, you don't – it used to be that one of the backbones of the country was men engaging in civic social groups.

02:47:58.040 Yes, which have largely collapsed.

02:47:59.600 There's an update coming out of the RNC right now.

02:48:02.800 Michael Watley, chairman of the RNC, says there were potential shenanigans in Pennsylvania, and the Republicans have just scored a legal victory.

02:48:10.740 According to Mr. Chairman Watley, Center County officials were planning to stop counting ballots throughout the night in violation of state law.

02:48:19.260 We, the RNC, threatened to sue.

02:48:21.080 That was enough.

02:48:21.900 Officials have agreed to continue the count as required.

02:48:24.680 Our attorneys will continue fighting to quickly eliminate issues at the polls as they arrive.

02:48:29.320 This is what you want to hear.

02:48:30.820 Well, speaking of Pennsylvania, our friend Ryan Gerdowski, formerly of CNN, he says that Lackawanna, Pennsylvania,

02:48:38.040 which is the first county in Pennsylvania that is near to completion, that has shifted from a Biden plus 8.4 to a Harris plus 3.

02:48:46.060 That is a 5.4 percentage shift toward President Trump.

02:48:50.800 Again, the trend lines, you hate to read trend lines, but I'm becoming, you know, nauseously optimistic, as Dr. Phil suggests.

02:48:59.420 Yeah, that's not a bad place to be.

02:49:02.500 And, guys, I'm going to have to wrap out of here to talk to somebody.

02:49:05.540 But before I do, Matt Walsh, I just have to congratulate you on your movie, Am I a Racist?

02:49:12.260 It's a comedy to DEI for what an absolute masterpiece.

02:49:17.220 Congratulations on what a success with that movie.

02:49:23.700 So thank you for that work and congratulations on the success.

02:49:27.820 Amen.

02:49:28.440 Thank you so much.

02:49:29.160 And we are, in fact, paying all of our guests to say that.

02:49:32.580 If you're wondering.

02:49:33.360 Well, I expect my $8 by the end of the night.

02:49:39.500 Dr. Phil, thanks for making time for us on this important night.

02:49:43.220 Well, thank you, guys.

02:49:44.320 We'll be in touch.

02:49:45.240 Thanks so much.

02:49:46.160 Quick point to make on Texas.

02:49:47.960 You know, we can take it lightly that Senator Cruz won his third term in Texas.

02:49:52.380 Democrats dumped $80 million into that race.

02:49:54.800 And so the fact that they keep pouring money down rat holes in non-competitive states because they get a little bit over their skis is quite a good thing.

02:50:01.480 Because all those dollars could have gone to Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin.

02:50:04.480 So the fact that they decided to spend it there instead is a good thing.

02:50:08.000 The New York Times needle continues to steadily, slowly creep toward the right, meaning more toward President Trump.

02:50:15.260 And it's entertaining to watch.

02:50:17.380 And, you know, we're going to have to at some point split screen what they're doing over at MSNBC and just find out how they're dealing with the emerging evening.

02:50:24.800 You know, the New York Times headline right now is Trump wins Florida and Texas.

02:50:27.760 Other big prizes still out.

02:50:29.000 So they're not saying anything about North Carolina yet, although, again, very likely that it's going to win.

02:50:34.200 Moreno is up right now in the vote in Ohio by about five percentage points in Ohio.

02:50:39.660 The C.A.P. here?

02:50:40.600 What is that?

02:50:41.080 What are you reading?

02:50:41.700 I'm looking at the New York Times right now.

02:50:43.420 In Pennsylvania, Bob Casey is up by two, but only 43 percent of the vote in.

02:50:47.680 So that is certainly not as positive.

02:50:49.600 Tammy Baldwin up by 1.1, only 37 percent of the vote in.

02:50:52.620 Again, we're in the real early hours here.

02:50:54.560 And, guys, I have a feeling we may be in for a bit of a long night here, the sort of hopes that just because they move so damned slowly in these Rust Belt states.

02:51:04.560 Sean Trend, excellent poll analyst over at RealClearPolitik, says if Trump wins, which looks increasingly likely with every minute, it's going to be with the most racially diverse Republican coalition in a very, very long time.

02:51:14.440 When you mention we might be here for a long night, at least you're not saying we might be here for a long five nights.

02:51:19.660 Because if, let's say, Wisconsin goes the way that it's looking, even though it's early, then we know tonight.

02:51:25.440 I spoke with Senator Marsha Blackburn earlier on my show today.

02:51:28.480 And Senator Blackburn, I said, are we going to be doing weeks of this?

02:51:31.700 She said, Michael, my prediction is by midnight tonight you're going to get to 270.

02:51:35.440 And I was skeptical at the time, but it is increasingly looking like we very much could know the next president tonight.

02:51:44.420 Well, the good news is that Joy Reid is saying that Florida has an extreme right-wing fascist government.

02:51:48.760 She's well-calibrated as always, Joy Reid.

02:51:52.360 Aptly named Joy.

02:51:53.880 The amount of joy in the Democratic Party these days is truly off the charts.

02:51:59.420 You've got the whoopee, you've got the joy.

02:52:01.260 Yeah, it's really quite wonderful.

02:52:03.060 I want to circle back to this idea, though, that we had to sue them to force them to keep doing their legal job.

02:52:10.580 Well, threaten to sue them.

02:52:11.340 Threaten to sue them in order to get them to live up to their legal obligation to continue counting tonight.

02:52:15.920 They don't care about the appearance of impropriety.

02:52:19.140 No.

02:52:19.760 Okay, they certainly don't.

02:52:21.300 And I think, again, this goes to a deeper point here.

02:52:23.380 So if President Trump does pull it off, obviously it's the greatest story probably in the history of American electoral politics.

02:52:28.820 Because the first time was fluky and weird, and that was an amazing story.

02:52:31.600 Him coming all the way back to win again.

02:52:34.040 Only Grover Cleveland, the famed.

02:52:37.080 And by the way, they didn't try to throw Grover Cleveland into prison four times.

02:52:41.380 Right, 100%.

02:52:42.920 But I think that we may be in danger of overlooking the actual big story in the magic of President Trump.

02:52:49.420 And that is how just unbelievably much the Democrats suck.

02:52:54.040 Truly how much they suck.

02:52:55.080 I mean, like, the fact that they don't go back to the drawing board.

02:52:58.420 They have Donald Trump, who they think of as the richest environment.

02:53:02.320 Like, he's a target rich environment.

02:53:03.640 They wanted him to be the candidate.

02:53:04.500 They wanted him.

02:53:05.120 They desperately wanted him.

02:53:05.960 They didn't want Haley.

02:53:06.700 They didn't want DeSantis.

02:53:07.400 They wanted Trump.

02:53:08.400 And they got, again, they are just the monkey's paw.

02:53:11.340 Every time they wish on the monkey's paw, it comes through in the worst possible way for them if he ends up.

02:53:15.560 But I think that we ought to focus for just a minute on how much they suck because we're focusing a lot on the president, really, like, as their program, how bad it is, how much of this is not a reaction about how wonderful Trump is as much as it is just a reaction to how terrible they've been.

02:53:29.680 Joe Biden was a shit president.

02:53:31.600 Sorry to put it that way.

02:53:32.580 He was a terrible president.

02:53:34.240 Kamala Harris was a terrible vice president.

02:53:36.700 So, again, like, I think that half the story needs to be that because what I would love is for the Democratic Party to self-correct.

02:53:43.440 It would be better for the country if the Democratic Party, instead of attributing it to the magic powers of President Trump, self-corrected and said, you know what, guys, we've lost the thread here and we need to start reentering the realm of reason.

02:53:53.720 It's pretty simple.

02:53:54.520 If Kamala loses and if she's losing a huge portion of the black vote and all these things are happening, it's because the Democrats haven't done anything to make people's lives better.

02:54:05.740 And that's the basic thing you're supposed to be doing.

02:54:08.920 And Trump understands that.

02:54:10.380 It's the basic pitch is I'm going to make your life better.

02:54:13.300 Here's how.

02:54:14.240 And the Democrat pitch is always just resentment and victimization.

02:54:18.560 And it's that emotional kind of pitch.

02:54:20.540 The question is who would lead the Democratic self-examination?

02:54:30.680 The New York Times, the L.A. Times, the Washington Post, Harvard University, CBS.

02:54:37.660 That's the problem.

02:54:38.700 Well, I think there is a thing that could be done, and it's the top levels of the Democratic Party.

02:54:44.340 So what they showed in ousting Joe Biden, we all called it a coup because it kind of was, but it kind of wasn't, meaning that's how a functional party works.

02:54:49.840 They didn't like their nominee.

02:54:51.100 The upper echelons of the party ousted their man, and then they put somebody else in because that's the upper echelons of their party.

02:54:56.060 The job of a party is to win elections.

02:54:57.580 If you keep losing elections to Donald Trump, perhaps the upper echelons of the party might want to take another look at how things are going.

02:55:03.900 By the way, here's an interesting exit poll out of New York.

02:55:06.520 So there have been some exit polls on the Jewish vote.

02:55:08.720 Obviously, I have a bit of a dog in this particular fight.

02:55:11.120 The current exit polls out of the state of New York have Donald Trump winning 43 percent of the Jewish vote in the state of New York.

02:55:16.180 That is by far the most populous Jewish state in the country.

02:55:20.600 I'm disappointed in the Jews who voted for Kamala Harris.

02:55:24.000 But then again, I predicted that Trump's ceiling with the Jewish vote, just because so few Jews actually care about Judaism or Israel, was going to be about 40 percent anyway.

02:55:32.720 So if Trump approximates anywhere in that neighborhood, that's a huge shift, considering that usually the Jews go like 70 percent for the Democrats in any possible election.

02:55:41.760 The New York Times, by the way, has now moved its needle, estimating that President Trump is likely to actually win the popular vote.

02:55:47.960 Again, if he wins the popular vote and the Electoral College, if he wins the popular vote and the Electoral College, that's the first time a Republican has won both the popular vote and the Electoral College since 2004.

02:55:59.240 It has been 20 years.

02:56:01.220 And at that point, panic has got to be setting in for the Democratic Party, especially because they can't even claim this is a low turnout election.

02:56:07.480 This is an extraordinarily high turnout election.

02:56:08.940 The highest turnout election ever.

02:56:09.780 Highest turnout election ever is what this is going to end up being.

02:56:12.460 And, you know, you have to remember, the Democrat Party is governed by its minority.

02:56:16.660 The radicals in the Democrat Party are the minority.

02:56:19.280 They are not the most number of people or the most number of politicians.

02:56:21.880 But now the Democrat minorities are becoming Republicans, which is even better.

02:56:26.080 The estimated Trump margin of victory for the New York Times right now, they're suggesting Trump plus 1.8 in Pennsylvania right now.

02:56:34.640 49 percent of the vote counted.

02:56:36.420 By the way, are they, if you know, are they having AI analyze this?

02:56:42.400 That's a good question.

02:56:42.860 I have no clue.

02:56:43.980 I have no clue how they're doing any of this stuff.

02:56:44.920 Very curious.

02:56:45.500 I'll bet they are.

02:56:47.060 And if they are, it actually adds a little more credibility in my opinion.

02:56:51.720 I'm sorry to say.

02:56:53.160 President Trump has won Montana, by the way.

02:56:54.920 So that, I knew you were waiting on that.

02:56:56.480 I knew you were waiting.

02:56:57.280 Well, we're waiting on the Senate race in Montana.

02:57:00.660 Well, that one's done.

02:57:02.160 He's going to, he's going to.

02:57:03.400 She's got it.

02:57:03.900 She's got it.

02:57:04.780 Can we throw up the current electoral map?

02:57:07.000 Because I think this is actually worth taking a moment and seeing exactly where we stand right now.

02:57:15.280 Look at that.

02:57:16.460 It's, it's, there's nothing here that's particularly surprising.

02:57:20.560 But that is actually a very good thing.

02:57:23.380 Lots of states are starting to get called.

02:57:25.100 They're not going in directions that we, they're not defying wildly what our expectations were.

02:57:30.020 This race was always most likely to come down to what happens in the Rust Belt.

02:57:36.160 And it looks like that's exactly what's going to happen.

02:57:38.840 The betting markets for the moment have President Trump a heavy, heavy favorite.

02:57:42.020 So, you know, Polymarket has President Trump at like an 80% favorite.

02:57:47.160 Again, the numbers continue to move in President Trump's direction.

02:57:50.180 If the theory of the Democrats was that high turnout favors the Democrats, they were totally, totally wrong.

02:57:56.180 Yeah, because they were totally wrong.

02:57:57.260 It was interesting what his name Brent was saying before, the pollster was saying before,

02:58:02.020 that they were right up to a point and then not right.

02:58:04.560 They were right if it went higher than 2016.

02:58:07.160 And then if it went higher than 2020, it was unknown territory.

02:58:09.520 And it's guys, I guess, showing up.

02:58:10.800 You know, a friend of mine, a very good financial professional, a very good investor,

02:58:15.220 was pointing out to me last week that he was feeling increasingly good about Trump's chances.

02:58:21.180 Not because of the polls.

02:58:22.840 You know, the polls were all over the place.

02:58:24.540 And you had that crazy Iowa poll that worried us all so much.

02:58:27.260 Not even because of Polymarket or any of the betting markets,

02:58:31.600 but because financial markets seemed to be pricing in a Trump victory.

02:58:36.260 And not only were the rich people putting their money there,

02:58:39.880 but the rich people were putting op-eds in the Washington Post,

02:58:41.980 like Jeff Bezos' op-ed, decision not to endorse.

02:58:44.540 That it seemed as though institutional financial interests,

02:58:48.540 with a lot of information, much more information than any of us,

02:58:51.460 seemed to see a good chance of a Trump victory.

02:58:54.720 Well, listen, the minute that Jim Cramer said that it was likely that Harris was going to win, it was over.

02:58:58.540 Guaranteed.

02:58:58.940 Right, we knew that it would have dumped all our money.

02:59:00.380 At that point, you just throw your money into the market against Jim Cramer

02:59:03.440 because no one has ever gone broke betting against Jim Cramer.

02:59:06.280 It was the most obvious pick in the entire world.

02:59:09.060 So, again, as these results continue to flow in,

02:59:12.060 it's exactly what you probably would have thought at this point in time.

02:59:16.060 The Democrats had put a hell of a lot of faith in North Carolina,

02:59:19.440 in possibly flipping Georgia.

02:59:21.460 Remember, she's already doing worse than Biden.

02:59:22.920 It's just a question of how much worse she does than Biden.

02:59:24.840 Remember, Biden won Georgia.

02:59:26.440 He won Arizona.

02:59:27.180 He won a bunch of states that Trump had won in 2016.

02:59:33.040 Those states are gradually coming off the table for Kamala Harris at this point.

02:59:37.860 An interesting thought experiment is,

02:59:41.020 would the Democrats be doing better now if they had just kept Biden?

02:59:43.640 This is a great question.

02:59:44.520 It's a serious question, really, because where she is picking up votes is in the suburbs,

02:59:48.960 but where she's lagging is with males.

02:59:51.500 And it turns out, like, I thought an early indicator in this election

02:59:53.820 that she had a massive problem on her hands was the Teamsters Union.

02:59:57.020 So I remember this.

02:59:58.140 They did a poll of the Teamsters Union members when it was Trump versus Biden.

03:00:02.580 And Biden was leading Trump something like 47 to 35 or something.

03:00:05.840 And then they did another poll after they flipped out Biden in favor of Kamala Harris.

03:00:10.180 And suddenly Trump was beating the living hell out of Kamala Harris,

03:00:13.460 beating her like 60 to 40 among the Teamsters.

03:00:15.920 Why?

03:00:16.400 Because guess what?

03:00:17.080 Every Teamster is a dude.

03:00:18.460 And it turns out that it's not just that they,

03:00:20.580 it's not they don't want a woman president.

03:00:22.000 They don't want this woman president who seems to scorn men.

03:00:24.360 This entire campaign has been about how much they hate men.

03:00:27.120 I hate to break it to everybody, but if you watch anything about this campaign,

03:00:30.240 it is not just about an appeal to single women.

03:00:32.300 It's about how much they despise men.

03:00:34.000 When they trot out Doug Emhoff and say,

03:00:35.720 this guy is an example of masculinity,

03:00:37.720 while he's allegedly beating women and knocking up the nanny.

03:00:40.260 And then meanwhile, they're suggesting that you're garbage if you're voting for Donald Trump.

03:00:43.980 Or when they trot out Tim Walls as an example of masculinity,

03:00:47.020 the assistant football coach who can't even properly use football terminology

03:00:50.820 and who can't even control his limbs,

03:00:53.120 breaks into uncontrollable spasms every so often.

03:00:56.160 And his obnoxious wife,

03:00:58.220 turn the page, turn the page.

03:01:00.980 Could you have found a more obnoxious group of human beings to set upon the United States?

03:01:05.780 Joe Biden is many things.

03:01:07.320 Senile, horrible at his job.

03:01:10.000 Obnoxious.

03:01:10.520 He's actually less obnoxious now that he's senile than he was before he was senile.

03:01:13.580 And he's certainly less obnoxious than this crew.

03:01:15.360 Yeah, I think Biden probably would be doing better,

03:01:17.940 for all the reasons you point out, which means that...

03:01:20.360 Oh, it's going to be so fun, dude.

03:01:21.440 Maybe one of the...

03:01:22.500 Maybe the most disastrous political strategic decision made in modern times

03:01:28.300 was for Biden to challenge Trump to a debate before the convention.

03:01:35.060 Because if he hadn't done that, then he's still in there.

03:01:36.940 Yes, but was it Biden who challenged Trump or was it the Democrat apparatus?

03:01:41.480 Yeah, I think we better find out or let people know what we already know.

03:01:45.900 What's so disturbing to me about this issue of men is the closing pitch that you saw the Democrats make to young men.

03:01:52.460 Yes.

03:01:52.700 Which was essentially, here's your weed and your porn.

03:01:55.360 Go have your little pleasure palette.

03:01:56.920 Yes, 100%.

03:01:57.640 And if that had worked, that would have been the most demoralizing thing, I think, for the future of the next generation.

03:02:03.840 And part of what I am actually pretty optimistic about is that young men seem to really reject that cynical play for their vote.

03:02:13.120 I mean, this is the first generation of young men that we have seen that are more religious than young women.

03:02:19.520 It's the first that we've seen that are more pro-life than boomer men, than Gen X men.

03:02:25.500 So that alone gives me a lot of hope.

03:02:27.840 Also, men don't want to be told that their chief priorities are porn and pot.

03:02:35.240 Even if they're potheads and they look at porn every day, they're probably at some level ashamed of that fact.

03:02:40.880 They don't want that to be their identity.

03:02:42.420 And, you know, even just generationally, there's only so long people can live without meaning.

03:02:46.500 You know, they have really sold us a life without meaning.

03:02:49.880 Our bodies don't mean anything.

03:02:51.500 How can you even say that to someone?

03:02:52.920 Your body has no valence as a spiritual entity.

03:02:57.240 You were born a man, but you have no manly responsibilities.

03:03:00.060 You're born a woman, but you have no womanly role.

03:03:01.960 I mean, who can live like that?

03:03:04.180 You're born a woman, and you may not be one.

03:03:08.040 Beyond that.

03:03:08.620 It was God's mistake.

03:03:09.620 They've done something that's truly amazing with single women, which is that they've, in order to overcome that spiritual emptiness, they've actually treated abortion as a sacrament.

03:03:18.320 Yes.

03:03:18.560 Right?

03:03:18.800 It's not like pornography.

03:03:20.520 So for young men, it's deeply insulting because no one thinks pornography is a sacrament.

03:03:25.160 They just know that it's a vice.

03:03:26.100 Everyone knows it's a vice.

03:03:26.980 You like it.

03:03:27.360 You don't like it.

03:03:27.820 It's a vice.

03:03:28.240 Everyone knows it's a vice.

03:03:29.220 Prank and pretend it's not a vice.

03:03:30.080 It's silly.

03:03:30.700 Everyone knows it.

03:03:31.300 Men feel like clear.

03:03:33.100 Abortion also is a vice, but it's been treated as a sacrament.

03:03:35.960 Why?

03:03:36.080 Because what it is, it's a sacrifice you make on behalf of your own individuality.

03:03:40.160 That's the thing that they've sold to a bunch of young women.

03:03:42.740 That's a, I think it's a horrifying, I think it's a terrible sales point for every possible reason, but it's a sales point.

03:03:49.480 It is not true for young men.

03:03:50.740 If you run a commercial to young men, and you suggest that, you know, young men are going to be stopped from masturbating to pornography, which is, they ran a literal commercial along these lines.

03:03:59.560 That if there will be a Republican legislator who takes away your phone and stops you, I feel like 80% of the public might be on the side of the guy taking away your phone and stopping you.

03:04:09.380 Especially the men.

03:04:10.620 The men who are addicted to porn.

03:04:11.900 They would say, thank you.

03:04:12.920 All right, thanks, actually.

03:04:13.720 I'm glad I can't control myself.

03:04:14.920 And that's not even a case for making things illegal.

03:04:16.980 That's just a case for what people think of the activity.

03:04:19.700 How they view it, yes.

03:04:19.900 Nobody thinks the activity is like an affirmative good, like it's a wonderful, wonderful thing.

03:04:23.740 And so for Democrats to paint that as like the essence of the human experience for males, we'll deprive you of the meaning of being a husband.

03:04:30.500 We'll deprive you of the meaning of being a father.

03:04:31.980 We'll deprive you of the meaning of being a provider.

03:04:33.580 We'll deprive you of the meaning of being a defender of your home.

03:04:36.000 But you can really jack off a lot.

03:04:38.300 That's the thing that we're training.

03:04:39.720 Who, like what man in his heart feels like, what a great message.

03:04:44.060 You know, speaking of vice, though, the biggest surprise result so far for me tonight,

03:04:47.780 and I say this with special joy as an owner and founder of Mayflower Cigars,

03:04:53.860 which is now competing with the devil's lettuce in a lot of markets.

03:04:58.520 Not in Florida where it's illegal.

03:05:00.440 That's right.

03:05:01.480 I thought they were going to vote to legalize the sin spinach throughout the state.

03:05:06.880 I'm actually floored.

03:05:08.540 That's the only big surprise to me so far.

03:05:10.400 Because the voters there can look at where it's been.

03:05:13.520 Like I said before, it's about making your life better.

03:05:15.160 You can look at where it's been legalized, marijuana, or decriminalized all across the country.

03:05:20.020 It has demonstrably made those communities worse.

03:05:23.000 Anyone who's done any traveling can see this.

03:05:25.960 You can smell it.

03:05:26.880 And I say this as someone who I admit that I was in favor of weed legalization only like two or three years ago.

03:05:33.540 Because, and I bought a lot of the arguments that, well, it's not much worse than alcohol.

03:05:37.640 I don't particularly like it, but it doesn't.

03:05:39.600 But then they do it and you go around to these communities and they're just completely consumed by this stuff.

03:05:44.180 It has obviously made everyone's life worse, especially the people who actually do it.

03:05:48.800 There's something else that's happening in Florida, too, which is the Republicans who move there are saying no.

03:05:52.940 We are not opening our – you try to get your foot in the door, we will cut off your foot.

03:05:56.940 Like, no.

03:05:57.340 The answer is no.

03:05:58.140 This is so new.

03:05:59.380 I want you to know 40 years ago when I began radio, I asked my audience, which has always been largely conservative, would you rather catch your teenage child smoking a cigarette or a joint?

03:06:16.060 Everyone said joint.

03:06:18.020 I said cigarette.

03:06:19.040 And it was one of the only times where I knew 90% of my audience disagreed with me.

03:06:27.800 Yeah, yeah.

03:06:28.620 But, I mean, they still respected me and all that, but they just thought I had lost my mind on that issue.

03:06:34.300 I was right then and I am right today.

03:06:37.480 It is so awful, marijuana.

03:06:41.280 The damage that it does to the human spirit – cigarette does no damage to the human spirit.

03:06:47.360 One-third of cigarette smokers will die prematurely, according to the American Lung Association.

03:06:52.460 That is sad.

03:06:53.380 But I rather gamble on my child 40 years from now being the one out of three to have lung cancer than losing his spirit, his energy, his drive, his mind at 18.

03:07:08.400 Yeah.

03:07:08.940 And so here's the latest update.

03:07:10.620 So according to Nate Cohn, chief political analyst for the New York Times, who does a really good job, he's still very early in Pennsylvania.

03:07:15.360 But in the first few counties where voting is complete, along with hundreds of completed precincts across the state, Trump is running ever so slightly better than he needs to win at this point in time.

03:07:25.560 Which state is this?

03:07:26.280 That's Pennsylvania.

03:07:27.160 That's in Pennsylvania.

03:07:28.920 Right now, the New York Times is estimating in a variety of states that Trump is likely to win.

03:07:34.740 They're estimating that he's likely to win Wisconsin.

03:07:36.480 They're estimating that he's likely to win Michigan.

03:07:38.260 Their estimated margin of victory right now in Wisconsin is 1.4 in favor of Trump.

03:07:41.780 That has been moving up steadily.

03:07:42.980 The estimated margin for victory, the New York Times is currently estimating in Pennsylvania, is Trump plus 1.9, which is not an insignificant lead.

03:07:49.980 Wow.

03:07:50.860 Again, the numbers are moving in Trump's favor.

03:07:53.160 By the way—

03:07:53.620 It's too early to get super duper excited.

03:07:55.040 You'll see the big smile break out on my face when we start to get really, really excited.

03:07:58.440 And then, of course, we have a moral obligation to show our friends over on MSNBC and revel in their misfortune.

03:08:03.960 But the—

03:08:05.520 What percentage of votes in Pennsylvania counted?

03:08:07.500 So, right now, Pennsylvania has counted approximately 54% of the vote in Wisconsin.

03:08:13.860 We're currently at 48% of the vote in Michigan.

03:08:16.280 We are currently at 21% of the vote.

03:08:18.200 And of the three states, the New York Times is estimating the biggest lead for Trump in Michigan at 2.1%.

03:08:23.880 So, again, the numbers are—the trends, still early.

03:08:28.360 It's only 9.22 central time.

03:08:31.180 By midnight, we're going to know a lot.

03:08:32.680 But you're seeing 2.1 for Trump in Michigan?

03:08:34.840 That is their estimate right now for his estimated margin of victory, 2.1%.

03:08:40.300 What are you looking at?

03:08:41.660 No, I'm just—I guess I'm looking at an outdated map.

03:08:44.200 Yeah, you need to reload it.

03:08:46.020 Meanwhile, they're putting Trump right on the verge of lean R in Michigan.

03:08:51.140 They're right on the verge of lean R in Pennsylvania, right on the verge of lean R in Wisconsin.

03:08:57.100 So, if the numbers continue to come in the way they're coming in for President Trump, he's going to be the president of the United States.

03:09:01.620 So, here's the great—here's one that I'm speculating on.

03:09:05.320 I love your input.

03:09:07.440 If he does win, what will they say is the reason?

03:09:12.780 So, they're going to blame it on the American people.

03:09:14.600 They've run out of reasons.

03:09:15.560 So, no, really, this is—

03:09:16.780 I agree, no, I agree with you.

03:09:17.440 They will what?

03:09:18.200 They will blame it on the American people.

03:09:19.500 They will blame it on us.

03:09:20.140 Right now, he's got the chance to win the popular vote.

03:09:22.280 Yes, right.

03:09:23.700 No, that's right.

03:09:24.400 You're exactly right.

03:09:25.340 So, they've run out of things to blame except for the American people.

03:09:28.260 So, they tried social media in 2016, and it failed.

03:09:30.460 And they tried the Russians in 2016, and it failed.

03:09:32.800 And then, in 2020, they said it was the revenge of the American people.

03:09:35.660 The normies are back.

03:09:37.160 Okay.

03:09:37.480 Well, you know, we're going to cut here right here to Senator Ted Cruz.

03:09:39.920 He's giving his victory speech.

03:09:41.100 I was campaigning with him two days ago, so I feel a moral obligation to give Ted his moment in the sun.

03:09:45.560 Ted ran a great race here.

03:09:47.040 Pulled it out against Colin Oliver.

03:09:48.000 Let's go live to him.

03:09:49.120 Victory, but a mandate.

03:09:51.540 A mandate from the people of Texas.

03:09:57.600 And let me be crystal clear about what that mandate means.

03:10:02.700 First, we must secure the border.

03:10:07.320 Not with empty promises, but with concrete and steel and law and order and with the unshakable resolve from knowing we are protecting those we love.

03:10:29.380 The cartels who poison our communities, the traffickers who prey on the innocent, their days are numbered.

03:10:45.160 Second, we must unleash Texas energy.

03:10:54.440 The answer to America's energy needs isn't Venezuela's oil fields or the Ayatollah in Iran.

03:11:05.520 But rather, it is right here in Texas in the Permian Basin and throughout the state of Texas.

03:11:15.900 We will drill.

03:11:16.900 We will drill.

03:11:17.900 We will frack.

03:11:18.900 We will produce.

03:11:19.900 And we will lead the entire world.

03:11:20.900 And we will never again let foreign dictators hold American energy independence hostage.

03:11:38.900 Third, we must defend our God-given rights.

03:11:51.440 Not some of them, not most of them, but all of them.

03:11:56.440 The right to speak truth in an age of enforced lies.

03:12:03.440 The right to worship the Lord God Almighty with all of our heart, mind, and soul without government getting in the way.

03:12:12.440 And the right to protect our families without asking bureaucrats for permission.

03:12:24.440 But above all, this mandate means fighting.

03:12:27.440 All right, folks, we are back.

03:12:29.440 That is Senator Ted Cruz, who has won his race in Texas for a third consecutive term.

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03:14:24.440 So the latest is President Trump in the New York Times needling.

03:14:27.440 Lots of needling going on over there.

03:14:29.440 In the New York Times needle, Donald Trump is favored in Wisconsin, in Michigan, in Pennsylvania.

03:14:33.440 Yes, in Nevada as well.

03:14:35.440 Dave McCormick has also moved into the lead in Pennsylvania as well.

03:14:39.440 The numbers continue to look very strong for President Trump across the board.

03:14:43.440 This is the most racially diverse Republican coalition in the history of the Republican Party,

03:14:47.440 or at least in the modern history of the Republican Party.

03:14:50.440 What we are seeing is a complete failure of the Kamala Harris campaign

03:14:55.440 in terms of getting out minority votes in large numbers.

03:14:58.440 People are not showing up in the suburbs in the way she needs them to show up right now.

03:15:02.440 Right now, the New York Times suggests that President Trump's margin of victory

03:15:05.440 will be 1.5 in Wisconsin, 2.0 in Pennsylvania, 2.0 in Nevada, 2.3 in Michigan, 2.6 in Georgia,

03:15:11.440 3.2 in North Carolina, and 4.1 in Arizona.

03:15:15.440 These are all big numbers for President Trump.

03:15:18.440 The numbers continue to move in one direction and one direction only.

03:15:22.440 So we are going to continue to obviously watch these numbers as they come in.

03:15:26.440 One of the funny things about the way that X works, by the way, is because X is no longer chronological,

03:15:31.440 you have to check the timestamp on every single tweet.

03:15:33.440 So it's something like Kamala Harris's people are feeling good,

03:15:35.440 and you check the timestamp six hours ago.

03:15:37.440 They're not feeling so good at this particular moment.

03:15:40.440 Can we go back to a question Dennis asked was an interesting one.

03:15:43.440 Who are they going to blame if they lose?

03:15:45.440 And you were saying, Ben, that they're going to blame the American people?

03:15:48.440 Yes.

03:15:49.440 Which I think is mostly right, but specifically they're going to blame men.

03:15:54.440 They're going to blame men. I mean, that's what it's going to be.

03:15:56.440 Yes.

03:15:57.440 They are going to blame men.

03:15:58.440 And you think about.

03:15:59.440 Sorry to break in.

03:16:00.440 Decision Desk has officially called Georgia for Trump.

03:16:01.440 So we knew that was done, but that's done.

03:16:03.440 Who called it for Trump?

03:16:04.440 Decision Desk.

03:16:05.440 Georgia has been called for Trump.

03:16:06.440 He's got North Carolina.

03:16:07.440 He's got Georgia.

03:16:08.440 He's going to take Arizona.

03:16:09.440 Once again, just to reiterate, it comes down to the blue wall states.

03:16:11.440 And Trump currently has momentum in all three blue wall states.

03:16:15.440 Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt you.

03:16:16.440 Just got to give the data.

03:16:17.440 Yeah.

03:16:18.440 Don't interrupt with presidential election stuff.

03:16:20.440 That's not what we're here for.

03:16:21.440 We're here to listen to me.

03:16:24.440 When you think about what happened after 2016, immediately you had the women, the women's

03:16:29.440 march, you know, all the crazed feminists going to like the Me Too movement.

03:16:33.440 You know, feminists were out for vengeance.

03:16:36.440 And I think if this happens again, that's what it's going to be like on steroids.

03:16:40.440 And it's going to be, this is the, the men did this, the men's fault.

03:16:44.440 And it's, it's going to be kind of like the early 2020s BLM blame whitey, except targeted

03:16:52.440 at men, black men included.

03:16:54.440 Right.

03:16:55.440 But, but probably Lord, they will still attack white men in particular.

03:16:59.440 Oh, sure.

03:17:00.440 Yeah.

03:17:01.440 White men in particular.

03:17:02.440 Actually, I don't think that that's right.

03:17:03.440 I think they're going to attack black men in particular.

03:17:05.440 Really?

03:17:06.440 Yes.

03:17:07.440 Well, Obama did.

03:17:08.440 Yes.

03:17:09.440 Because I think that they, there was no expectation.

03:17:10.440 White men are already evil.

03:17:11.440 Their expectation was that black men were going to get them over the finish line if

03:17:14.440 they just nagged at them enough.

03:17:15.440 And when people feel betrayed by a population, they tend to be much angrier at that population

03:17:20.440 than when they had no expectations.

03:17:21.440 They already knew that the white men are the bad guys.

03:17:23.440 If black men show up 25% for Trump across the country, they're going to lose their ever

03:17:28.440 loving minds.

03:17:29.440 And here's the thing.

03:17:30.440 They are banking on the idea that women are inevitably just going to continue hating men at the rate

03:17:33.440 that they want them to hate men.

03:17:34.440 Yeah.

03:17:35.440 I mean, really, that's going to be their program.

03:17:36.440 Their program is if we just yell at men more and women really, really are afraid of men

03:17:40.440 and they're scared of men and all this kind of, but there is this natural thing that happens

03:17:44.440 with men and women.

03:17:45.440 I don't mean to explain the birds and the bees on the air, but it turns out that a huge

03:17:48.440 number of women actually kind of like men and actually would like to, you know, sometimes

03:17:52.440 get married to them and then maybe have babies with them and all the rest of that sort of stuff.

03:17:56.440 And so I don't know how much Prozac you can dispense out there.

03:17:58.440 I mean, I understand that like a huge number right now of Americans generally are on antidepressants,

03:18:03.440 but there's going to come a point where people are like, hey, maybe this isn't the way that

03:18:06.440 we ought to go.

03:18:07.440 Maybe I should try, you know, like forming a normal human relationship with a person as opposed

03:18:11.440 to being so woke online that all of my fulfillment comes from wearing a pussy hat at a march or

03:18:16.440 something.

03:18:17.440 I was going to say, I think part of what you have happening with young women is there

03:18:21.440 is an actual desire for male leadership and they're not seeing it.

03:18:24.440 So to me, maybe part of the silver lining that could come out of this is if at least

03:18:29.440 the GOP learns that, hey, there may be something beneficial and not solely targeting our political

03:18:34.440 messaging to wine moms.

03:18:36.440 Maybe if we can actually turn out the male vote, men will step up and take some more ownership

03:18:41.440 for where we're headed politically in this nation instead of deferring to, let's say, Eve.

03:18:48.440 Okay, by the way.

03:18:49.440 Not to put too fine a point on it.

03:18:50.440 I think that's a very good point, actually.

03:18:52.440 By the way, looking at how the various Democratic Senate candidates are performing vis-a-vis Kamala

03:18:57.440 Harris, they are all outperforming her by leaps and bounds.

03:19:00.440 That is true in Arizona, where currently Ruben Gallego is outperforming Kamala Harris by almost

03:19:04.440 eight points.

03:19:05.440 In Ohio, Sherrod Brown is outperforming her by seven.

03:19:08.440 Seven in Texas.

03:19:09.440 Wait, he's outperforming by seven and losing?

03:19:12.440 This is why I keep asking about, really?

03:19:14.440 Yes.

03:19:15.440 Yeah, because that's a Trump plus 10 state.

03:19:17.440 That's like, yes, Moreno's going to win that state by probably two to three at the

03:19:20.440 end.

03:19:21.440 Maybe more.

03:19:22.440 Maybe more.

03:19:23.440 Meanwhile, Collin already outperformed her in Texas by four to five points.

03:19:27.440 Again, what does this show?

03:19:28.440 It shows that she is a weak candidate.

03:19:29.440 She was always a weak candidate.

03:19:31.440 If Democrats were going to swap her out, then they should have actually swapped her out

03:19:34.440 for somebody who isn't awful at her job.

03:19:36.440 Yeah.

03:19:37.440 The utter insane confidence that Democrats had to take a person who has failed every

03:19:43.440 time she's put on the national stage and be like, her.

03:19:46.440 Yeah.

03:19:47.440 That's the one.

03:19:48.440 On the basis of intersectional characteristics, that is the stupidest thing.

03:19:51.440 Go back in your mind for a moment to just before they'd swapped out Kamala.

03:19:55.440 And they were talking about getting where to buy.

03:19:56.440 And everybody was like, yeah, he's got to go.

03:19:58.440 That dude ain't even, he ain't got to work in brain or anything.

03:20:00.440 And then they were like, okay, so who could it be?

03:20:02.440 And there was a bunch of talk about, well, maybe it'll be, you know, Gavin Newsom, or

03:20:05.440 maybe they'll try J.B.

03:20:06.440 Pritzker, or maybe they'll get Josh Shapiro, or maybe it'll be, maybe it'll be somebody

03:20:09.440 who's good at this.

03:20:10.440 And they're like, no, it must be Kamala.

03:20:12.440 And at the time, everybody was like, her, her.

03:20:15.440 I mean, it was arrested development is her.

03:20:17.440 Really?

03:20:18.440 Really?

03:20:19.440 And as it turns out, her is the proper response to Kamala Harris.

03:20:23.440 Kamala Harris 1.0, giant fail as a presidential candidate.

03:20:27.440 Kamala Harris 2.0 as vice president, giant fail.

03:20:30.440 And it appears, again, don't want to speak too early.

03:20:32.440 If this continues, Kamala Harris 3.0, giantest fail in the history of presidential fails.

03:20:37.440 I was talking to a friend of mine who does not work in politics.

03:20:40.440 And I said, I don't know.

03:20:41.440 I'm actually starting to feel pretty good about this because I think that maybe Trump could

03:20:45.440 pull it out.

03:20:46.440 He looked at me because he's normal, unlike us.

03:20:49.440 Yeah.

03:20:50.440 He says, oh, hold on.

03:20:51.440 Wait, Michael, you're telling me that this super unpopular lady that nobody likes, that

03:20:57.440 never got any votes, that got thrown in at the last minute, who says all the things that

03:21:02.440 people don't want to hear, she's going to lose to the really famous popular guy?

03:21:08.440 You don't say so.

03:21:09.440 And at the time, I said, hey, you're oversimplifying it.

03:21:11.440 But if the election continues to go the way that it is looking right now, that might in

03:21:16.440 fact be the postmortem is, oh, yeah, common sense still holds.

03:21:21.440 Yes.

03:21:22.440 My brother?

03:21:23.440 Not a political guy.

03:21:24.440 Same kind of guy.

03:21:25.440 And he texted me.

03:21:26.440 I mean, I was blown away to get a political text from my brother in which he watched Trump

03:21:31.440 on one of these comedians' podcasts and he said, oh, yeah, he's going to win because that's

03:21:35.440 the show everybody wants to watch for the next four years.

03:21:37.440 Yeah.

03:21:38.440 And a friend of mine from high school, he now lives outside of Milwaukee.

03:21:42.440 He is politically as moderate and independent as they come.

03:21:46.440 He is the swing voter in the swing state in Wisconsin.

03:21:49.440 And I was catching up with him for the first time in a year or two.

03:21:52.440 He was over.

03:21:53.440 We were having a cigar.

03:21:54.440 I said, so what's your take?

03:21:55.440 You're the guy.

03:21:56.440 Don't hear what I have to say about politics.

03:21:57.440 What do you say?

03:21:58.440 Because, you know, I don't know.

03:21:59.440 I don't follow Trump that much.

03:22:00.440 I mostly watch like football.

03:22:01.440 I'm here for a football game.

03:22:02.440 You know, I don't know.

03:22:03.440 I guess just my main takeaway from her is she seems kind of like a dingbat.

03:22:08.440 And that was it.

03:22:09.440 That's all he knew about the race.

03:22:11.440 Seems like a fairly solid take.

03:22:13.440 Yeah, basically.

03:22:14.440 I think the Democrats are learning a lesson that I learned from watching Breaking Bad,

03:22:19.440 which is you can never have a, you got to go the full measure, not the half measure.

03:22:22.440 And they went to half measure because they took Biden out, but they couldn't imagine taking Kamala

03:22:28.440 Kamala out too because she's a black woman, but they all knew they should, but they just,

03:22:33.440 they didn't have the gumption to do it and do the whole thing.

03:22:36.440 And, you know, you got to go the full measure.

03:22:38.440 Or is it this?

03:22:39.440 Did they think Gavin Newsom, Josh Shapiro, any of these people who were pretty serious?

03:22:45.440 Preserve them.

03:22:46.440 Did they think, yeah, keep your powder dry, send up Kamala?

03:22:49.440 No.

03:22:50.440 No, I think they knew that they knew they needed to put one of them in.

03:22:54.440 They just couldn't do it.

03:22:55.440 They didn't have the balls to abandon their crappy political theory since 2012,

03:23:00.440 which is get the minorities and single ladies out.

03:23:02.440 They didn't have the balls to abandon that.

03:23:03.440 And the only person who was going to bring that they thought was Kamala Harris.

03:23:06.440 By the way, the current New York Times needle suggests that Donald Trump has an 84% chance

03:23:11.440 of victory in the presidential election.

03:23:13.440 This is all quite enjoyable thus far in the evening.

03:23:15.440 Let's hope that the trend continues.

03:23:17.440 Joining us live from Arizona, our friend, Dylan Law Group founder,

03:23:21.440 friend of ours here at DW, Harmeet.

03:23:23.440 DW, Harmeet, Dylan, welcome to the show, Harmeet.

03:23:26.440 Thanks for having me, Ben.

03:23:28.440 So we went from cautiously optimistic to nauseously optimistic to a little bit more openly optimistic

03:23:34.440 as the evening is going on.

03:23:35.440 How are you feeling about things, Harmeet?

03:23:37.440 Well, we've actually started strong and continued strong here in Arizona.

03:23:42.440 We had three weeks of early voting and Republicans outperformed even in Maricopa County

03:23:47.440 and throughout the state.

03:23:49.440 And tonight, the mood has been incredible.

03:23:52.440 We feel really good about certainly Donald Trump winning and many of our congressional candidates.

03:23:57.440 You know, some of the races are close and some of the counties did their shenanigans.

03:24:02.440 We truly had an effort here with outside groups and the RNC and the Arizona GOP's organization

03:24:08.440 with thousands of workers in the field to really get our low propensity voters in.

03:24:15.440 And so I couldn't be more happy because I was here in 2022 and it was an absolute like meltdown,

03:24:23.440 crying, totally different scene over here than it is tonight.

03:24:26.440 So, Harmeet, you know, one of the things that you've been very focused on in the run up to this election

03:24:30.440 was ensuring election integrity.

03:24:32.440 Obviously, that takes an awful lot of work throughout the election cycle.

03:24:36.440 And it seems to be paying off tonight.

03:24:38.440 You have people on the ground all over the country who are really working to ensure that nothing fishy goes on.

03:24:44.440 Mike, tell us about some of the stuff that you've been doing across the country in order to ensure that.

03:24:49.440 So we're leading up to this election month.

03:24:54.440 There have been lawsuits filed for the last couple of years throughout the country

03:24:58.440 that have focused on the different things that the Democrats corrupted in 2020.

03:25:03.440 And, you know, frankly, shame on our side over the years,

03:25:06.440 not spending the amount of money and effort that the other side did to corrupt our elections.

03:25:11.440 But making sure that state laws are followed, making sure that ballots are not counted after Election Day,

03:25:18.440 making sure that we have some kind of security, that ballot harvesting is eliminated wherever we can do that,

03:25:25.440 making sure that outside groups like the Zuckerberg's effort are outlawed in as many states as possible.

03:25:33.440 So for all the sort of static that Georgia gets as not being Trumpy enough,

03:25:41.440 they actually did a tremendous job in reforming their election laws.

03:25:44.440 And that is, I think you're seeing the net result of that tonight there in another state.

03:25:49.440 So here in Arizona, we've repeatedly gone to court to tighten up the enforcement of Arizona's quite good election laws.

03:25:57.440 And since 2022, several improvements were made shortening the time for curing and tightening up the standards.

03:26:02.440 We actually have a lot more work to do in this election cycle because Arizona, for the first time,

03:26:06.440 has some specific standards on matching signatures to the ballots, the mail in ballots.

03:26:12.440 And so that is actually a great election integrity measure.

03:26:15.440 And everyone's scrambling around over the last three weeks and the next five days to make sure that people cure those ballots and get them in.

03:26:22.440 So I love that. Here on election night, what we had was dozens of attorneys on site where I am.

03:26:29.440 I'm sort of leading this effort.

03:26:31.440 We have been blocking and tackling since 5 a.m. all day today,

03:26:35.440 literally sending lawyers out into the field and witnessing things that are happening, negotiating,

03:26:40.440 telling election workers they can't, you know, tell people with MAGA shirts they can't come and vote, things like that.

03:26:46.440 We even had a hearing tonight in Apache County very late in the day.

03:26:50.440 The Dems tried to keep all of Apache County open later on the Navajo reservation.

03:26:55.440 And we limited it to nine sites where they had had some problems earlier in the day.

03:26:59.440 And even those late ballots may not get counted.

03:27:02.440 So it is a tremendous amount of organization by the Arizona GOP.

03:27:06.440 They literally deployed thousands of trained volunteers and multiple shifts today in the field.

03:27:14.440 And so that level of organization is like a military operation.

03:27:17.440 And it went off without a hitch.

03:27:19.440 Every single slot was filled.

03:27:21.440 The lawyers in the field, the lawyers here.

03:27:23.440 And everyone is smiling at the end of the day.

03:27:25.440 Everyone worked well together.

03:27:26.440 So I'm so, so proud of being a part of this effort.

03:27:29.440 That's Harmeet Dillon.

03:27:30.440 She's been doing an amazing job over at Dillon Law Group.

03:27:32.440 Harmeet, really appreciate all your hard work during this election cycle.

03:27:35.440 And hopefully, it's too early to say it yet, but hopefully a little bit later tonight,

03:27:38.440 we can all pop champagne remotely and enjoy a big election victory for Donald J. Trump

03:27:44.440 and the Republican Party in the Senate as well as in the House.

03:27:46.440 Really appreciate it, Harmeet.

03:27:48.440 Thank you.

03:27:49.440 Thank you.

03:27:50.440 So, Michigan exit poll among Latino voters from CNN.

03:27:53.440 Trump, 60.

03:27:54.440 Here is 35.

03:27:55.440 Wow.

03:27:56.440 What the what?

03:27:58.440 I mean, honestly, the shifts that you are seeing in these voting numbers are insane.

03:28:03.440 Identity politics, if Trump wins with it, I keep putting proviso on it because, again,

03:28:08.440 nothing's sure until it's sure.

03:28:10.440 If things continue the way they are, Donald Trump put a stake through the heart of identity

03:28:15.440 politics, which is hilarious.

03:28:17.440 OK, that's insanely hilarious.

03:28:19.440 Because do you remember that time when the entire left suggested that he was a vicious,

03:28:23.440 brutal racist?

03:28:24.440 Mm-hmm.

03:28:25.440 He was a, you remember that?

03:28:26.440 I mean, that was like today.

03:28:27.440 Yeah.

03:28:28.440 And remember that time when they suggested he was a white identitarian?

03:28:30.440 Yeah.

03:28:31.440 Right?

03:28:32.440 Everything he did was all about white identitarianism, despite the fact that white identitarians

03:28:34.440 have all disowned him during this election cycle for being too pro-Jew.

03:28:37.440 And now it turns out that he is forming the single most working class, blue collar, multiracial

03:28:42.440 Republican coalition in modern American history.

03:28:45.440 Well, hold on, Ben.

03:28:47.440 I'm enjoying it a little bit.

03:28:48.440 The New York Times now says the needle is saying likely Trump.

03:28:51.440 But then you zoom in on exactly the point you're talking about.

03:28:54.440 It says 88% chance of victory.

03:28:56.440 But all the libs told me that 88 is secret code for Hitler.

03:29:01.440 Yeah.

03:29:02.440 So maybe that's it.

03:29:03.440 It's hidden deep beneath the New York Times saying Trump will likely be the next president.

03:29:08.440 Again, so much of this has to come down to how bad the Democrats have been.

03:29:13.440 I can't get over how bad they are.

03:29:14.440 I can't get over how bad they are at this.

03:29:16.440 Like they picked the candidates they wanted to run against.

03:29:20.440 Wow.

03:29:21.440 Twice.

03:29:22.440 Twice.

03:29:23.440 They did it in 2016 and then they lost to him.

03:29:24.440 They did it again.

03:29:25.440 Bill Clinton encouraged Trump to run in 2016.

03:29:27.440 Yes.

03:29:28.440 Apparently Fox is saying that the Harris campaign is no longer responding to a request for a comment.

03:29:33.440 Oh, man.

03:29:34.440 Let's go, baby.

03:29:35.440 Mmm.

03:29:36.440 So that is...

03:29:37.440 You're drinking already.

03:29:38.440 Pass me that bottle.

03:29:39.440 I'll just pour a little sip.

03:29:40.440 Just a little sip.

03:29:41.440 You guys are going for it a little bit early, but you know.

03:29:43.440 Now that I'm on, I'm going for the good stuff.

03:29:45.440 It feels like bad luck.

03:29:46.440 Ben, let me ask you.

03:29:47.440 Yeah, last time I had the Woodford.

03:29:48.440 This time I'm going for the McAllen.

03:29:49.440 Is that...

03:29:50.440 All right, sir.

03:29:51.440 Okay, guys, there's still an election going on.

03:29:53.440 They're part of it.

03:29:54.440 All right.

03:29:55.440 I'm so sorry.

03:29:56.440 I'm so sorry to interrupt.

03:29:57.440 Yeah.

03:29:58.440 So remember that time.

03:29:59.440 Sorry, go ahead.

03:30:00.440 Well, okay.

03:30:01.440 So if they can't go to identity politics, is that permanently killed for the Democrat Party?

03:30:07.440 How do they get back those Hispanic men, those black men?

03:30:12.440 How do they move on after this if they don't have that particular play to run?

03:30:18.440 I think that the thing that Trump has done that is of electoral benefit but questionable

03:30:25.440 conservatism has been his spending agenda, right?

03:30:28.440 He took that off the table by basically just competing directly with the Democrats.

03:30:31.440 He's like, I'm not going to touch Medicare.

03:30:32.440 I'm not going to touch Medicaid.

03:30:33.440 I'm not going to touch Social Security.

03:30:34.440 Off the table.

03:30:35.440 When he did that, it took away their biggest talking point.

03:30:38.440 Because there are really only two forms that Democratic politics takes these days.

03:30:42.440 One is identity politics.

03:30:44.440 And the other is Bernie Sanders socialism.

03:30:46.440 And Bernie Sanders socialism is only popular in its most populist form, which is, you have

03:30:51.440 all these benefits and no one can touch our benefits.

03:30:53.440 And if they touch our benefits, then they must die.

03:30:55.440 You want to throw granny off a cliff.

03:30:57.440 Exactly.

03:30:58.440 And Trump was like, I don't want to touch any of those things.

03:30:59.440 I'm going to leave.

03:31:00.440 Well, the truth is, both parties are totally wrong on this.

03:31:02.440 But the dishonesty of both parties means that if you meet parity there, it's very difficult

03:31:07.440 for them to out-compete on a lot of these socially conservative issues.

03:31:10.440 Trump has taken a moderate position on things like same-sex marriage.

03:31:13.440 On abortion, he's basically said we're not touching it at the federal level.

03:31:16.440 So the question becomes, what are the things they're really arguing on?

03:31:18.440 The things they're really arguing on now are things like tax rates, should your child

03:31:23.440 be trans, and foreign policy.

03:31:25.440 And guess what?

03:31:27.440 Democrats lose on all those issues.

03:31:28.440 So it's hard to see how they climb back in other than just circumstance, right?

03:31:30.440 Something goes wrong for Trump.

03:31:31.440 There's an economic crash while he's president of the United States.

03:31:34.440 There's a natural swing back to the other side or whatever.

03:31:37.440 Now, I also think that we're in danger of, you know, not, earlier I've said we should attribute

03:31:42.440 a lot of this to Democratic failure, but I think that we also have to attribute some

03:31:46.440 of this to the power of Donald Trump, obviously.

03:31:48.440 The man's unbelievably famous.

03:31:50.440 He is like the most famous person in America before he ran for president.

03:31:53.440 Most famous person in the world.

03:31:55.440 In the world.

03:31:56.440 In the world.

03:31:57.440 And so you took that person.

03:31:58.440 Can some other Republican capture that in quite the same way?

03:32:01.440 The thing about Trump is it made it almost impossible to full scale demonize him in the

03:32:05.440 way Democrats wanted to because everyone was just kind of like, you mean the guy from

03:32:08.440 Home Alone, too?

03:32:09.440 Yeah.

03:32:10.440 They were like, he's Hitler.

03:32:11.440 Trump is Elvis.

03:32:12.440 You mean the one from like, you know, The Apprentice?

03:32:14.440 That guy's Hitler, is your case?

03:32:16.440 Like not Berlusconi, like Hitler?

03:32:18.440 Is where you're going with this?

03:32:19.440 And so because of that, that gave Trump a bit of a superpower.

03:32:22.440 I don't think that that superpower exists for nearly anyone else in American politics.

03:32:26.440 And so the risk for Republicans is that they do to themselves what Democrats did over Obama.

03:32:32.440 They think this is the new natural status quo as opposed to a thing they have to keep fighting for.

03:32:36.440 Right.

03:32:37.440 And Democrats refuse to acknowledge that Barack Obama was in fact one of one.

03:32:41.440 Yes.

03:32:42.440 Donald Trump, assuming his victory, is in fact one of one.

03:32:46.440 Yes.

03:32:47.440 And all of his detractors, you know, people who have criticized him over things.

03:32:49.440 I've criticized him over a lot of these things.

03:32:51.440 The dude was always one of one.

03:32:52.440 Yes.

03:32:53.440 He's one of one.

03:32:54.440 He's an American original.

03:32:55.440 Yeah.

03:32:56.440 He's the most iconic figure of the 21st century.

03:32:59.440 Bar none.

03:33:00.440 Without a doubt.

03:33:01.440 No question about it.

03:33:02.440 Meanwhile, we're going to take a quick moment and highlight some cool stuff going on here.

03:33:05.440 At Daily Wire, we'll return momentarily so I can take a drink of water or something.

03:33:09.440 Yeah.

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03:33:46.440 How do you choose a cigar?

03:33:48.440 In the case of Mayflower cigars, the lighter Connecticut Shade Dawn is in fact a mild to medium bodied cigar.

03:33:55.440 The darker Habano Dusk is stronger and fuller bodied with a medium to full profile.

03:34:01.440 Whichever size and shape of cigar you choose, I certainly hope it's a Mayflower.

03:34:07.440 You must be 21 years old or older to purchase some exclusions.

03:34:10.440 May apply.

03:34:11.440 Like, Jeremy Boring, you're back.

03:34:18.440 Wow, this place is so weird.

03:34:20.440 Things just sort of, people materialize, and they just like, people just randomly are in and out.

03:34:25.440 I feel like I never left.

03:34:26.440 It's a break.

03:34:28.440 I feel like I've always been in this chair.

03:34:30.440 I do have to say one thing about the uniqueness of Donald Trump, or against the uniqueness of Donald Trump.

03:34:35.440 He is, he does mark the death, thank God, of the Bush, McCain, Romney party.

03:34:41.440 Yeah, yeah.

03:34:42.440 Which is dying a death, a well-deserved death.

03:34:44.440 So this is the thing, okay, so back when we had the Republican primaries, I used to think, you know, I wish we could have a Ron DeSantis, Gavin Newsom election.

03:34:54.440 I think that's the election the country deserves, because that represents the actual fight we're having.

03:34:59.440 Red state, blue state, how do you want to live?

03:35:02.440 As of about last week, I don't feel that way anymore.

03:35:05.440 I actually think this is the election we deserve.

03:35:08.440 It might not be the election I particularly wanted to have.

03:35:11.440 This might not be the choice I wanted to face.

03:35:13.440 But because of what you guys were saying about the stake in the heart of identity politics,

03:35:19.440 it's actually really important that Donald Trump, this flawed avatar of American populism,

03:35:26.440 is now up against this utterly empty vessel for nothing other than this dead philosophy that the Democrats have plunked for.

03:35:38.440 Yeah.

03:35:39.440 It really matters that we actually put that up there and put it to the test, for better or for worse.

03:35:44.440 And the thing about Kamala, you know, people are always talking as if her problem is that she's inarticulate,

03:35:50.440 and that she gets nervous, and she kind of flubs these questions.

03:35:54.440 I think that is way, way too kind to her.

03:35:57.440 If you say somebody's inarticulate, what you mean is there are thoughts, cogent thoughts,

03:36:01.440 going on in this person's head.

03:36:03.440 And somewhere in between that and what they're saying, it's not coming out right.

03:36:08.440 It happens to all of us, right?

03:36:10.440 Kamala Harris is expressing herself perfectly.

03:36:13.440 The words, that potato salad that comes out when she answers questions,

03:36:18.440 that actually translates exactly what's going on in her head.

03:36:21.440 And I think that's really important.

03:36:23.440 And I actually think that Trump in his way also sort of represents something, even though he is suing Jenner.

03:36:28.440 I think he had to do the thing, and I hope he wins tonight, but even if he doesn't, that party is dead.

03:36:34.440 And I think he had to do the thing that nobody else could do.

03:36:38.440 He had to be that brash, that coarse, that indestructible.

03:36:42.440 Tell me what's so bad about the Bush, McCain, Romney, Republican party.

03:36:45.440 Oh, it's easy.

03:36:46.440 I mean, we had Ronald Reagan came out and basically brought us back to conservative ideals, true conservative ideals.

03:36:54.440 And then George Bush stood up and said, I'm a kinder, gentler man.

03:36:59.440 And I thought, what's kinder and gentler than prosperity and peace?

03:37:02.440 You know, what's kinder and gentler than freeing, you know, Europe from the Soviet slave state?

03:37:07.440 You know, what is kinder and gentler than that?

03:37:09.440 Bombing foreign nations into smithereens?

03:37:11.440 Yeah.

03:37:12.440 And then his son came out and did the same thing.

03:37:15.440 Compassionate.

03:37:16.440 It's compassionate.

03:37:17.440 Conservatism.

03:37:18.440 And when people are in trouble, governments got to move and all that stuff.

03:37:22.440 That is literally J.D. Vance's economic policy.

03:37:24.440 Well, J.D. Vance has yet to be tested.

03:37:26.440 But what I think is going to be J.D. Vance is on the move.

03:37:29.440 But he is not running for president.

03:37:31.440 It's also different.

03:37:32.440 The truth is, the truth is, what you don't like about McCain, Bush, Romney was the affect.

03:37:39.440 No, no, that's half right.

03:37:41.440 It's not just the affect.

03:37:42.440 It's policy, too.

03:37:43.440 Yeah, the policy.

03:37:44.440 Okay, that is untrue.

03:37:45.440 That is untrue.

03:37:46.440 I'm just going to say it flat out.

03:37:47.440 That's not true.

03:37:48.440 It is true.

03:37:49.440 He responded to it.

03:37:50.440 Mitt Romney was harsher on the border than Donald Trump was during his actual term.

03:37:54.440 You don't remember self-deportation and how people went absolutely nuts?

03:37:58.440 But it's not an affect that he didn't want to win because he didn't want to defeat Barack Obama.

03:38:02.440 Which is an affect.

03:38:03.440 That's not an affect.

03:38:04.440 It is affect.

03:38:05.440 Mitt Romney, we don't know what his policy was.

03:38:06.440 Yeah, we don't know what he would have done.

03:38:08.440 Okay, I just want to be clear.

03:38:10.440 There are a few areas where Donald Trump markedly differed from the traditional Republican Party.

03:38:15.440 Yeah.

03:38:16.440 On immigration, he differed from the actually post-Romney Republican Party.

03:38:19.440 Romney ran as an immigration hawk in 2012.

03:38:22.440 He did.

03:38:23.440 And Coulter supported him in 2012 because of this.

03:38:26.440 He said he would be severely conservative.

03:38:28.440 Okay, but I'm just telling you about...

03:38:30.440 I don't agree that what you're calling affect is affect.

03:38:32.440 I don't think it's affect to go after the press with a wrecking ball because the press deserves a wrecking ball.

03:38:37.440 And the rest of the party has trembled in their boots in front of them.

03:38:40.440 But that's not policy. That is affect.

03:38:41.440 It's not affect.

03:38:42.440 Let's talk about what he actually did.

03:38:43.440 It's not a bad thing.

03:38:44.440 I'm not even arguing your point.

03:38:46.440 I think that the idea that you do need a harsher brand of thing, I totally agree with that.

03:38:51.440 I think that the difference between what Bush and Romney and McCain were trying to do and what Trump did is Trump said,

03:38:58.440 the left fundamentally broke the country, and now I need to fix the thing.

03:39:02.440 But I'm not sure how exactly McCain is supposed to run with that in 2008 after George W. Bush was president for eight years,

03:39:07.440 any more than Kamala Harris could run with, I broke the country, now let me...

03:39:11.440 Well, he might have not suspended his campaign.

03:39:13.440 I want to hear Matt.

03:39:14.440 Just talk about Bush.

03:39:15.440 I want to hear Matt.

03:39:16.440 Talk about Bush because he was actually president.

03:39:17.440 The other two guys weren't.

03:39:18.440 And it's not just affect there.

03:39:20.440 I mean, it's what he actually did.

03:39:22.440 Let's start with the fact that he sent us into wars that lasted for decades.

03:39:27.440 So we can begin with that.

03:39:28.440 Massively, massively expanded the federal bureaucracy.

03:39:31.440 We can move to that.

03:39:32.440 Totally ineffectual in preventing the illegal invasion across the border.

03:39:38.440 I mean, those are three things that...

03:39:39.440 Exploded the debt.

03:39:40.440 Exploded the debt.

03:39:41.440 So those are four things.

03:39:42.440 No, no, no.

03:39:43.440 The fourth one, Trump also exploded the debt, to be fair.

03:39:45.440 Trump exploded the debt, I guess.

03:39:47.440 Trump exploded the debt.

03:39:48.440 As far as the wars, I mean, again, there's a bit of revisionist history that goes on about,

03:39:51.440 say, the war in Afghanistan, which was approved with literally unanimity in the entire House

03:39:55.440 of Representatives with the exception of, I think, two votes.

03:39:57.440 Okay?

03:39:58.440 And as far as the war in Iraq...

03:39:59.440 No one in this room would have opposed the war in Afghanistan.

03:40:01.440 No one in this room would oppose the war in Afghanistan if two towers got knocked down

03:40:07.440 in America today.

03:40:08.440 When I came back from Afghanistan, I said, we should never have gone in.

03:40:11.440 I didn't oppose it at the time because I didn't know enough about it and I was angry like

03:40:15.440 everybody else.

03:40:16.440 But when I went to Afghanistan, I came back and the first thing out of my mouth was,

03:40:19.440 this was a mistake.

03:40:20.440 What year was that?

03:40:21.440 I think it's 20, I'm not sure, 2016 maybe.

03:40:24.440 Okay, so that's a little late to make that call.

03:40:26.440 No.

03:40:27.440 That's 13 years late to make that call.

03:40:28.440 You don't get to make that call 13 years late and be like, hey, by the way, 13 years

03:40:31.440 ago...

03:40:32.440 Again, this is not...

03:40:33.440 Let me look it up.

03:40:34.440 What I'm making about this is that when we talk about Donald Trump being a radical break

03:40:38.440 from Republicanism, he is a radical break in terms of his attitude, which I agree does

03:40:43.440 have ramifications.

03:40:44.440 And I think those ramifications are powerful because what the left need more than anything

03:40:48.440 else, what the institutions of the left needed more than anything else, was the middle finger.

03:40:53.440 George W. Bush was not a middle finger.

03:40:54.440 John McCain was not a middle finger and Mitt Romney was not a middle finger.

03:40:57.440 And I agree with...

03:40:58.440 Even beyond all this, you know...

03:41:00.440 Even by 2008, that's well on...

03:41:03.440 We invaded in 2002, six years into the...

03:41:04.440 I think we're overthinking this though.

03:41:06.440 In the GOP, there has been, for almost a century now, a split between the conservatives

03:41:11.440 who are a little friendlier with the populists and the more establishment country club set.

03:41:16.440 And in the 1980s, that split was represented by Ronald Reagan as the conservative and George

03:41:20.440 Bush as the moderate establishment type.

03:41:22.440 The Bushes have been establishment moderate types going back to Prescott Bush, at least.

03:41:26.440 And Reagan was the conservative.

03:41:28.440 I think Donald Trump has inherited the mantle of the populist conservative side from Ronald

03:41:33.440 Reagan.

03:41:34.440 There are differences between the men, but there's a reason they had the same campaign slogan.

03:41:37.440 And I think Mitt Romney was a liberal, fairly liberal governor, invented Obamacare.

03:41:42.440 John McCain was an extremely liberal Republican senator.

03:41:45.440 And they inherited the Bush side of things.

03:41:47.440 Also, Jeremy said the last time we were talking that one of the things that a politician has

03:41:51.440 to do is win.

03:41:52.440 Romney and McCain lost.

03:41:53.440 And they deserved to lose.

03:41:55.440 Sure.

03:41:56.440 When McCain...

03:41:57.440 George W. Bush did not lose.

03:41:58.440 No, he didn't.

03:41:59.440 No, he didn't.

03:42:00.440 He's the only president in some of our lifetimes to win the popular vote.

03:42:03.440 Yeah, I thought he was a truly mediocre president at a time that called for greatness,

03:42:07.440 you know, which was...

03:42:08.440 Do you believe that greatness would have been not going into Afghanistan?

03:42:11.440 Yeah, we shouldn't have gone into...

03:42:12.440 We should have gone into Afghanistan and delivered punishment.

03:42:16.440 But he set out to transform the Middle East into democratic nations.

03:42:20.440 Also, Iraq is the more...

03:42:21.440 Which is nuts.

03:42:22.440 It's a bigger issue.

03:42:23.440 What's that?

03:42:24.440 Also, Iraq is more...

03:42:25.440 Here's the thing.

03:42:26.440 Again, it is easy to do the hindsight is 20-20 thing.

03:42:28.440 The only point that I would make...

03:42:29.440 Well, yes, because we're judging the president.

03:42:31.440 No, no, no.

03:42:32.440 Did anyone here oppose Iraq at the time?

03:42:34.440 I did when I was 13, so it doesn't count.

03:42:37.440 But in what way did that make the world safer?

03:42:40.440 In what way did that help America?

03:42:41.440 Again, that's not my point.

03:42:43.440 Okay, so...

03:42:44.440 Not the world safer.

03:42:45.440 How did it make America safer?

03:42:46.440 Okay, the reality is that what's bizarre about the sort of populist versus non-populist

03:42:50.440 break...

03:42:51.440 So you're defining it as Reagan versus Ford...

03:42:53.440 Reagan versus Bush.

03:42:54.440 Or Reagan versus Bush.

03:42:55.440 Okay, the problem with that particular definition is that Ronald Reagan was a peace-through-strength

03:43:02.440 guy, okay?

03:43:03.440 Which means that Donald Trump is a peace-through-strength guy, which is a traditional Republican principle.

03:43:07.440 Yeah, yeah.

03:43:08.440 Okay?

03:43:09.440 And then when it comes to things like, say, traditional values, Ronald Reagan was a less

03:43:14.440 moderate version.

03:43:15.440 George H. W. Bush was a more moderate version on abortion, on things like same-sex marriage.

03:43:20.440 On all those policies, George H. W. Bush was to the left.

03:43:23.440 Again, I think one of the things that we have to point out is that there is a hard distinction

03:43:27.440 between the...

03:43:28.440 I think it's easy to do this kind of...

03:43:31.440 What I think is a mistake.

03:43:32.440 I think it's a category error to simply suggest that he is a policy populist along the lines

03:43:37.440 of Ronald Reagan as opposed to George H. W. Bush.

03:43:39.440 No, I don't say that.

03:43:40.440 He's a stylistic populist along the lines of Ronald Reagan.

03:43:42.440 That I agree with because the argument that Ronald Reagan was making, as you say, was make

03:43:46.440 America great.

03:43:47.440 It was a restoration after a terrible period in American history.

03:43:50.440 Yeah.

03:43:51.440 And that is what Donald Trump was as well.

03:43:53.440 And so the real break, I don't think, was between, say, Donald Trump and Mitt Romney.

03:43:59.440 I think it was a break between a party that seemed to believe that we could simply sort

03:44:06.440 of absorb the blows from the left and then be nice to them.

03:44:09.440 And then every four years kind of absorb more blows from the left and then be nice to

03:44:13.440 them versus somebody who came out both middle fingers in the air and said, like, come get

03:44:16.440 me.

03:44:17.440 So hold on a minute.

03:44:19.440 Every president has a different job to do, is faced with a different job.

03:44:22.440 Donald Reagan was faced with the Cold War and turning an America that had become soft

03:44:26.440 on communism and soft on the aggression of the Soviets back into a nation that was willing

03:44:31.440 to fight for itself and fight for the things that it stood for.

03:44:34.440 That was his job.

03:44:35.440 That was not Donald Trump's job.

03:44:36.440 It was his job to do that with the press and the press.

03:44:39.440 And he was right.

03:44:40.440 They were the enemy within.

03:44:41.440 He was right.

03:44:42.440 They were the enemy of the people.

03:44:43.440 Totally.

03:44:44.440 And he's taken them down.

03:44:45.440 And if he wins tonight, it will be largely because he took them down.

03:44:47.440 Is it possible, though, that one of the things that makes it so difficult to compare

03:44:50.440 to these previous camps of conservatism, never mind other presidents, but to other different

03:44:56.440 factions within the conservative movement, is that what really differentiates him from

03:45:00.440 all these guys is that he's fundamentally less ideological than either the populists

03:45:05.440 or the country club conservatives, which means that there's not actually a philosophy

03:45:10.440 there that you can contrast to these other philosophies that you guys are talking about.

03:45:14.440 And in fact, that might be exactly what you're all talking about in some ways in that some

03:45:19.440 of these guys, the Romneys of the world, seem to have felt that their correct ideas were

03:45:25.440 enough to win them power.

03:45:27.440 Yeah.

03:45:28.440 I agree with that.

03:45:29.440 When in fact, yeah.

03:45:30.440 So the people have done the King David stuff with President Trump.

03:45:32.440 If I'm going to do a biblical analogy for President Trump, there's a phrase that's used

03:45:36.440 about Noah at the very beginning of the Bible where it says that he was a good man in his

03:45:39.440 time.

03:45:40.440 Mm-hmm.

03:45:41.440 Right?

03:45:42.440 And so there's a big debate over, like, what does that mean?

03:45:43.440 That he's a good man in his time?

03:45:44.440 Some commentaries suggest a good man in his time means, well, he's even better because he's

03:45:47.440 a bad time.

03:45:48.440 And then most commentaries say it means that, like, the time sucked and he was better than

03:45:51.440 the time.

03:45:52.440 Yes.

03:45:53.440 If you'd put him in, like, a great time, then he wouldn't have been, like, a great dude.

03:45:54.440 He would have been kind of an absolute term.

03:45:55.440 Right.

03:45:56.440 Exactly.

03:45:57.440 And so I think that Donald Trump was made for his time.

03:45:58.440 Yep.

03:45:59.440 That's right.

03:46:00.440 And I think trying to take people out of their context and then just compare them outside

03:46:02.440 of that context is wrong.

03:46:03.440 I mean, George W. Bush was defined by the time of post 9-11.

03:46:06.440 And Donald Trump is defined by the fact that Barack Obama wrecked the country.

03:46:09.440 Yeah.

03:46:10.440 Barack Obama destroyed everything.

03:46:12.440 And then Donald Trump came in and he said, I've said this from day one, even when I was critical

03:46:15.440 Trump, he was never the murderer.

03:46:17.440 He was always the coroner.

03:46:18.440 He came in and he said, this is a dead body here.

03:46:20.440 This right here.

03:46:21.440 This body is dead.

03:46:22.440 Mm-hmm.

03:46:23.440 And what we need to do is we need to make it not dead anymore.

03:46:25.440 And the way that we are going to do that is by rejecting all of these institutions.

03:46:28.440 He is the man for his time.

03:46:30.440 He is a man of his time and he is the man of his time.

03:46:32.440 But I think that it's a mistake and a category error to then compare between times just

03:46:36.440 as it's a mistake.

03:46:37.440 No, but I think Trump did a better job at what he was given to do.

03:46:40.440 I will agree with you that in many ways Trump did a better thing with what he was given

03:46:46.440 than what George W. Bush did, particularly in his second term.

03:46:49.440 I think George W. Bush's second term was a failure.

03:46:51.440 And we have yet to judge Donald Trump's second term because he hasn't had one yet.

03:46:54.440 We have to compare between times and we always do.

03:46:56.440 We would say about Barry Goldwater, Goldwater didn't lose.

03:46:59.440 It just took 16 years to count the votes.

03:47:01.440 You know, we obviously see that there are these factions and streams.

03:47:04.440 So, of course, you know, Donald Trump today on an issue like gay marriage is to the left

03:47:09.440 of Ronald Reagan and the Bushes.

03:47:11.440 And Obama.

03:47:12.440 And Obama and Hillary Clinton.

03:47:13.440 That's because the issue was decided at the level of the Supreme Court.

03:47:16.440 And no prominent Republican today in office opposes it.

03:47:20.440 So you have to compare in other ways.

03:47:22.440 But President Trump has been more pro-life than any president in my life.

03:47:25.440 I'm the first one to show up to the martial arts.

03:47:27.440 In his first, there's two important points that we're, there's three that we're missing.

03:47:31.440 One is that a lot of our opinions about these other guys are, are retrospective.

03:47:37.440 Not things that we thought in the moment.

03:47:39.440 And we don't yet have retrospective opinions about the entirety of a term of Donald Trump

03:47:43.440 because there hasn't been a second term.

03:47:44.440 Which is point number two.

03:47:45.440 There hasn't been a second term.

03:47:46.440 Second terms are always worse, particularly for Republicans.

03:47:49.440 But even Barack Obama's second term was far worse than his first term.

03:47:53.440 Three.

03:47:54.440 Not if you get a four year break.

03:47:55.440 That's right.

03:47:56.440 Three.

03:47:57.440 Three.

03:47:58.440 We say things like, Bush got us into these forever wars.

03:48:01.440 Yeah.

03:48:02.440 And that really is a left wing talking point.

03:48:04.440 Iraq wasn't a forever war.

03:48:05.440 Iraq was over when George W. Bush left office.

03:48:07.440 And the very first thing that Barack Obama did was just give up the victory.

03:48:11.440 Yeah, right.

03:48:12.440 He gave up the victory.

03:48:13.440 But the Iraq war was over.

03:48:14.440 And had Barack Obama not given up the victory, our view of the Iraq war today would be much,

03:48:19.440 much different.

03:48:20.440 In other words, if Bush had done everything that Bush did, but then Barack Obama had done anything

03:48:24.440 different than he did.

03:48:25.440 Yeah.

03:48:26.440 Our view of that war would be different.

03:48:27.440 And Afghanistan is obviously not an actual nation.

03:48:31.440 It's a completely different thing.

03:48:33.440 You know, there wasn't really a democratic election in South.

03:48:37.440 South Korea didn't become a democracy.

03:48:39.440 For several decades.

03:48:40.440 For several decades after the Korean War.

03:48:42.440 These sorts of enterprises can't be done in a schizophrenic way.

03:48:46.440 But what was the point of the Iraq war?

03:48:48.440 Who cares?

03:48:49.440 What if we just never gone in?

03:48:51.440 Who cares?

03:48:52.440 Who cares?

03:48:53.440 To make the Middle East into a Madisonian democracy.

03:48:55.440 No, I mean...

03:48:56.440 That's not the reason we went.

03:48:57.440 No, I mean, if you want the...

03:48:58.440 Because Saddam Hussein had weapons of mass destruction.

03:49:00.440 Because, literally, Saddam Hussein refused to turn over any evidence that he did not have

03:49:04.440 weapons of mass destruction because he was afraid he would be deposed.

03:49:06.440 Yeah.

03:49:07.440 That was one reason.

03:49:08.440 On a geopolitical level, there was also...

03:49:09.440 Again, this is not to say that it was the right decision.

03:49:11.440 In retrospect, everyone understands it was the wrong decision.

03:49:14.440 But, at the time, those were not...

03:49:15.440 It had been US policy for 10 years.

03:49:17.440 It was also the policy of, by the way, most of Europe.

03:49:19.440 Yeah, yeah.

03:49:20.440 Right?

03:49:21.440 And it also happened to be that if you look at a map, Iraq is on one side of Iran and

03:49:24.440 Afghanistan is on the other side of Iran.

03:49:26.440 And the idea was that this, along with Kuwait and Saudi Arabia, was going to provide a

03:49:29.440 bulwark against the Iranians.

03:49:31.440 And, by the way, the counterproposal, which was Barack Obama's proposal, which was relieve

03:49:35.440 all pressure on Iran, has led to a giant Middle Eastern conflagration.

03:49:38.440 So, put all that aside.

03:49:39.440 Bernie Moreno just won Ohio.

03:49:40.440 What's that?

03:49:41.440 Bernie Moreno has officially won Ohio.

03:49:42.440 Okay.

03:49:43.440 So, that's it.

03:49:44.440 What is the...

03:49:45.440 Can we talk about this?

03:49:46.440 Now, they're saying the most likely state to flip, this is, again, according to New

03:49:50.440 York Times, is Michigan.

03:49:53.440 It just said Pennsylvania, and they've updated it.

03:49:55.440 So, it's going between Pennsylvania and Michigan.

03:49:57.440 But, right now, the estimate from the Times is Trump 300, Harris 238.

03:50:03.440 This is now well into the likely Trump category.

03:50:06.440 That's awful.

03:50:07.440 We are at 70% of the votes counted in Pennsylvania.

03:50:10.440 Donald Trump currently has about a 160,000-vote lead in the state of Pennsylvania.

03:50:14.440 We have 61% of the estimated vote total reported in Wisconsin.

03:50:18.440 Donald Trump currently has a slim 50,000-vote lead or so in that arena.

03:50:24.440 In Michigan, about 29% of the vote has been counted.

03:50:27.440 President Trump has currently about a 70,000-vote lead in that arena.

03:50:31.440 So, again, Donald Trump is looking quite good right now.

03:50:34.440 By the way, I just want to say, the reason that I'm pushing back just against the break

03:50:38.440 with the Republican...

03:50:39.440 Because I want to be more specific about our definitions.

03:50:41.440 If what you're saying is we should continue punching the left in the face, I totally agree.

03:50:44.440 If what you're saying is that what we need to do is abandon the right wing on abortion,

03:50:48.440 or abandon the right wing on gay marriage, or abandon free markets, or do any of...

03:50:52.440 That's the break that we're looking for.

03:50:54.440 Or abandon a realist foreign policy that doesn't agree with neocom, but also doesn't agree

03:50:58.440 with isolationism.

03:50:59.440 Like, I just need a more specific definition of what you mean in order to achieve the thing.

03:51:03.440 What I believe is that we can't achieve any of those things until the press is crushed.

03:51:08.440 That I agree.

03:51:09.440 I agree with that.

03:51:10.440 Okay.

03:51:11.440 So, we don't disagree.

03:51:12.440 Yeah.

03:51:13.440 We don't disagree.

03:51:14.440 I'm not going to let us keep talking about this.

03:51:15.440 Okay.

03:51:16.440 There's an election happening.

03:51:17.440 That's what people want us to talk about.

03:51:18.440 Yes, I agree.

03:51:19.440 And this conversation isn't helping the situation.

03:51:22.440 What do you mean?

03:51:23.440 I don't know about it.

03:51:24.440 I want to go check in with our own Cassie Akiva, who is in Pennsylvania right now,

03:51:28.440 where Donald Trump is starting to eat out the lead.

03:51:30.440 And Cassie, one of the things that's on my mind right now is what impact, in the end,

03:51:35.440 is Israel's war actually going to have on this election?

03:51:38.440 And here's what I mean.

03:51:39.440 Pennsylvania has an incredibly popular Democratic governor who is Jewish.

03:51:45.440 Kamala Harris, instead of choosing a governor who almost certainly, almost certainly would

03:51:50.440 have carried the state that she has to have in order to achieve victory, didn't choose

03:51:55.440 him only because of the war happening in the Middle East.

03:51:59.440 Is that going to end up being decisive in this campaign?

03:52:06.440 The answer is yes.

03:52:08.440 I think the answer is yes.

03:52:10.440 I think the answer is yes.

03:52:11.440 That was a setup if ever I heard it.

03:52:13.440 Hi, guys.

03:52:14.440 Hey.

03:52:15.440 Hey, Cassie.

03:52:16.440 I just asked you an amazing question, but Ben answered it.

03:52:19.440 So now I'm going to ask you a different question.

03:52:21.440 Which is, what is...

03:52:22.440 Thanks, Ben.

03:52:23.440 It's a vibe election.

03:52:24.440 What is the vibe at McCormick HQ right now?

03:52:27.440 The vibe is really good right now.

03:52:30.440 We have the band coming out to play.

03:52:32.440 Every time Pennsylvania is on the television, the whole crowd goes bananas.

03:52:36.440 There's an open bar here.

03:52:37.440 People are having a really good time.

03:52:39.440 The turnout is looking really, really good right now.

03:52:42.440 The only thing I want to caution is that Dave McCormick has 80,000 fewer votes than Donald

03:52:47.440 Trump right now, which is a little odd.

03:52:49.440 But they're still feeling good.

03:52:50.440 They just came out to the stage and said they're feeling good.

03:52:52.440 And they said they're going to give us another update at 1130.

03:52:55.440 Can I actually say that even the fact that McCormick is trailing Donald Trump in Pennsylvania by 80,000 votes reinforces the idea that Israel's war may cost Kamala the election because it is largely secular Jews in Pennsylvania who had a wake up call on 10-7 to realize that they needed a pro-Israel American president, but still don't want to break with their ideological left wing political views.

03:53:20.440 And so there was an actual movement to say split the ticket.

03:53:23.440 Give us Donald Trump to protect Israel and protect Jewish people from Iranian aggression.

03:53:29.440 But don't give up the Senate.

03:53:30.440 We don't want to elect a right wing Senate.

03:53:33.440 So I don't think it's conclusive, but it's like a real data point.

03:53:36.440 Is it not, Cassie?

03:53:38.440 It's absolutely true.

03:53:39.440 I actually spoke to Dave McCormick about this very point.

03:53:43.440 He said that he really does think that Kamala's choice is going to cost her Pennsylvania.

03:53:48.440 But we also had a chance to talk to Dave McCormick at his childhood demasium where he used to wrestle.

03:53:53.440 We have the clip room here.

03:53:55.440 We have the voters.

03:54:01.440 This is a race between change and the status quo.

03:54:04.440 I represent change.

03:54:05.440 I'm a seventh generation Pennsylvania West Point grad, combat vet, businessman, political outsider.

03:54:11.440 I've term limited myself to two terms.

03:54:13.440 I'm going there for the sole purpose of shaking things up and getting America back on track.

03:54:17.440 Bob Casey is a 30-year career politician.

03:54:19.440 He's been in elected office for 30 years.

03:54:22.440 He's the son of a big, high-profile governor.

03:54:28.440 And he's lived off his father's name.

03:54:30.440 He's not entitled to this seat.

03:54:32.440 He hasn't earned it.

03:54:33.440 And he's voted on these extreme liberal policies that are simply out of step with Pennsylvania.

03:54:38.440 So I say to people on the campaign trail, if you want change, vote for me.

03:54:42.440 So McCormick is feeling good tonight.

03:54:47.440 You can hear it with the party going on here.

03:54:50.440 We're going to be here all night giving you updates from McCormick headquarters.

03:54:54.440 And we'll be talking to you soon.

03:54:56.440 Cassie, thank you.

03:54:57.440 And now we're going to go over to Brent Buchanan.

03:55:00.440 We've set up this amazing data center here that we've never had anything quite like this at one of our election nights before.

03:55:07.440 It's kind of fun, actually, to think back to our first.

03:55:09.440 This is our third presidential election as a company.

03:55:12.440 And the first one, the New York Times was calling 99% for Hillary Clinton at the beginning of the night.

03:55:17.440 We thought it would be a short night.

03:55:18.440 We started drinking early.

03:55:20.440 By the end of the night, I was literally laying in my chair.

03:55:23.440 I don't drink often.

03:55:25.440 And I never drink to excess.

03:55:27.440 Except when I'm on the biggest broadcast I've ever been on, which is what happened that night.

03:55:32.440 But it was basically, I went back and looked at footage of it.

03:55:34.440 We basically looked like we were broadcasting from my closet.

03:55:37.440 And now we have this actual data center and Brent Buchanan here to tell us what's happening from Signal Polling.

03:55:42.440 Brent.

03:55:43.440 Yeah, so I walked in to this building eight hours ago.

03:55:48.440 I still don't know what time it is.

03:55:50.440 And I was giving Trump a very, very slight edge.

03:55:54.440 I was not convinced that the Republican early vote numbers were going to actually translate to really strong overall turnout.

03:56:01.440 I thought we were going to cannibalize our election day turnout, which is what happened in Virginia in 2023.

03:56:06.440 So let me give you a couple data points ramping up to what I want to say.

03:56:10.440 First, if you look across the whole country with black voters, turnout is lower, but Trump's margin is higher.

03:56:17.440 That's telling us that a lot of black Democrats actually stayed home.

03:56:20.440 Number two, if we go back to the focus group we conducted again, that's qualitative.

03:56:25.440 But we had five people who said probably Kamala, two people who said probably Trump.

03:56:29.440 That in and of itself shows us that there were more people sitting on the sidelines who were not sure if they were going to show up and vote for Kamala.

03:56:36.440 In our exit poll that we're still running right now of people who said I'm not going to vote or I didn't vote in 24, those folks would have been for Harris by a 13 point margin.

03:56:47.440 Then when we look at the exit poll and look at the data point of who decided within the last week to today, Trump's up with those folks by six points.

03:56:55.440 So here's the story of the 2024 election so far.

03:57:00.440 Democratic areas turned out at 2020 levels, Republican areas exceeded their 2020 levels.

03:57:07.440 And then you combine that along with this shift in black vote that's partially black Dems staying home and Republicans increasing their margin with color voters of color.

03:57:19.440 And you start to see this picture where I would say I'm up in the 80s or 90s percentile that Trump's going to be able to pull this off.

03:57:27.440 You look at these Rust Belt states, for example, Lackawanna County here in Pennsylvania.

03:57:33.440 I'm gonna have to go to list view because they got a heck of a lot of counties here.

03:57:36.440 So as we look at Lackawanna County, one thing really interesting about this county is that Biden won it by eight four years ago.

03:57:46.440 And she's only winning it by three at this point.

03:57:49.440 And they had a 2.3 percent increase in turnout over 2022.

03:57:53.440 When we look at Lycoming County, somebody in PA is probably going to fact check me on mispronouncing that.

03:58:00.440 This is a county that was plus 41 for Trump.

03:58:03.440 He's performing there, but their turnout's even higher at three and a half percent increased turnout over their 2020 numbers.

03:58:10.440 Then you have places like Butler, which is an ex-Bourbon county in Pennsylvania.

03:58:18.440 And this was plus 33 for Trump four years ago.

03:58:21.440 It's plus 32 now.

03:58:23.440 But there's a three percent turnout change.

03:58:25.440 So you start to see all these places across Pennsylvania where Donald Trump is netting out more votes in the areas where he already performed well.

03:58:34.440 He's netting out more votes in these ex-Bourbon counties, which was the entire Harris strategy was to go into these ex-Bourbon counties and shrink the Trump margins.

03:58:44.440 And they're not they're not changing at all.

03:58:47.440 They're actually improving for him.

03:58:49.440 So, Brent, when when you're looking, you know, forward at the rest of the evening, I think the big question we all have is when the hell do they call these things?

03:58:57.440 We can all go home. But, you know, the but but as as this trots out, you know, it why is it that the votes slow so much near the end?

03:59:05.440 Right. There's been like the steady increase in the vote count in places like Pennsylvania.

03:59:08.440 Right now, New York Times saying 73 percent of the estimated vote total has already been reported.

03:59:12.440 Do you expect that pace to continue?

03:59:14.440 Like how fast do these things come in generally in the Rust Belt states way too slow?

03:59:19.440 You get this rush.

03:59:20.440 I think we're looking at something like 60.

03:59:24.440 What is this showing here? 64 percent reporting in Wisconsin.

03:59:27.440 Right now, we've got a strong probability of Trump winning there.

03:59:30.440 And so we're just going to see this estimated reporting number slowly come in.

03:59:35.440 Unlike places like Georgia, where we're already seeing 91 percent reporting.

03:59:39.440 One unique thing about southern states is that because they do provisional every every county and state does provisional ballots.

03:59:47.440 But usually in the south, when you get to 95 percent reporting, you're actually 100 percent reporting of everything outside of the provisional ballots.

03:59:54.440 And the provisional ballots are only hundreds, maybe thousands of votes.

03:59:58.440 And so once you get to this 95 percent in the south estimated reporting, you're basically everything, all the votes that matter are in at that point.

04:00:06.440 You know, Brent, the most shocking statistic that we've seen all night long is this exit poll from CNN showing Donald Trump walloping Kamala Harris with Hispanic voters in Michigan 60 to 35, which is just.

04:00:16.440 It's amazing.

04:00:17.440 I mean, to put it technically, I believe the term is batshit lunacy.

04:00:20.440 That that's that's insane.

04:00:23.440 The we're watching if these numbers are anything close to reality, we're watching a massive political realignment happen right before our eyes tonight.

04:00:30.440 Completely.

04:00:31.440 And so here's another example of how this is starting to have 2016 turnout because or at least margins, not turnout, because we're way over even 2020 turnout at this point.

04:00:42.440 But Eaton County here was plus one for Trump in 2020, but it was plus five for him in 2016.

04:00:49.440 And he's now back to plus five in Eaton County.

04:00:52.440 Wow, wow, wow.

04:00:53.440 By the way, Ted Cruz did win Latino voters outright in Texas by six.

04:00:57.440 He lost Latinos in 2018 by 29 points.

04:01:01.440 Well, because he was running against that Hispanic Beto O'Rourke.

04:01:03.440 Yeah, that's true.

04:01:04.440 Well, Brent, really appreciate the insight.

04:01:07.440 I'm sure we'll be coming back to you in very short order.

04:01:10.440 Our election map coverage, of course, is made possible by our sponsors over at Lumen.

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04:01:18.440 So, yeah, guys, I mean, this is it's an astonishing result what we're watching in real time.

04:01:22.440 Now, listen, these margins are still really, really close.

04:01:24.440 I mean, we'll see.

04:01:25.440 This is all estimated, right?

04:01:27.440 This is us all getting happy off The New York Times making their estimations.

04:01:30.440 Right.

04:01:31.440 And when they say that there is, say, a 64 percent chance or a 69 percent, that still means there's a 31 percent chance it goes the other way.

04:01:37.440 And remember the betrayal of the needle for Hillary Clinton when it was 99 percent pro-Hillary.

04:01:43.440 Now, it's obviously a little bit later in the election at this point.

04:01:45.440 That's right.

04:01:46.440 Don't forget, the betrayal of the needle against Hillary was always moving in one direction.

04:01:51.440 Yes.

04:01:52.440 From the top of the night to the bottom.

04:01:53.440 And this needle has also always been moving and basically always been moving in one direction from the top of the night to now.

04:01:59.440 And it is now pretty solidly in the likely Trump wins camp.

04:02:03.440 Nate Cohn at The New York Times came out and said about 25, 30 minutes ago, for the first time tonight, we are declaring it is it is our opinion that it is likely that Trump wins.

04:02:12.440 If you look at those Senate races, by the way, currently, Dave McCormick is, in fact, leading Bob Casey by almost 100,000 votes.

04:02:18.440 Again, Pennsylvania does not look like if trend continues, Pennsylvania does not look like it's going to be particularly close.

04:02:23.440 It looks like Trump is going to walk away with it by at least a couple of percentage points.

04:02:26.440 They're saying there aren't enough votes left in Philly to point it out for them.

04:02:29.440 In Michigan, Mike Rogers is currently leading Alyssa Slotkin in Michigan.

04:02:32.440 By the way, Mike Rogers makes it 55.

04:02:35.440 Mike Rogers makes it 55, huh?

04:02:37.440 You know, I felt pretty good about Mike Rogers.

04:02:39.440 Yeah, Mike Rogers, he made a late-breaking move.

04:02:41.440 And I was a little skeptical of Mike Rogers because he spent so much of the time trailing.

04:02:45.440 Right now, he's up about 50,000, 60,000 votes on Alyssa Slotkin in Michigan and Wisconsin.

04:02:50.440 Eric Hovde is currently up by about 26,000 votes or so on Tammy Baldwin, 65% of the vote in.

04:02:58.440 Now, got to give a shout-out to the worst candidate of the cycle, our girl Carrie Lake over in Arizona,

04:03:03.440 who is just getting destroyed by Ruben Gallego in a state that Donald Trump is going to end up walking away with.

04:03:08.440 Which, you know, again, moral of the story, gentlemen, do not pick bad candidates for higher office.

04:03:14.440 It turns out that when you pick good candidates, you do betters.

04:03:16.440 And when you pick not great candidates, you do worse's.

04:03:18.440 Well, speaking of good candidates, we're joined by the newly re-elected senator of the great state of Texas, Ted Cruz.

04:03:26.440 Senator, thanks for being with us.

04:03:29.440 It is great to be with you guys.

04:03:31.440 I'm bummed that I'm not there, and I can't see you, but I feel confident that there is good scotch and good cigars that are involved.

04:03:39.440 You know us so well.

04:03:41.440 Big night.

04:03:42.440 You started off this election in a tough race, what I believe became the most expensive Senate race in the country this cycle.

04:03:48.440 And as recently as eight weeks ago, facing real headwinds.

04:03:52.440 And you've put in an enormous effort in Texas and secured a huge victory tonight.

04:03:59.440 Well, I got to tell you, our win in Texas was just breathtaking.

04:04:02.440 Right now, about 76% of the votes have been counted.

04:04:05.440 We're up 10 points.

04:04:06.440 We're up nearly a million votes right now.

04:04:08.440 And there's still a quarter of the votes to be counted.

04:04:10.440 I mean, it is.

04:04:11.440 It's incredible.

04:04:12.440 And I'll tell you what's really encouraging also.

04:04:14.440 We're making massive inroads with Hispanic voters in Texas and South Texas.

04:04:19.440 And I got to give a shout out to Ben.

04:04:21.440 So Ben came down to the Rio Grande Valley with me, did a campaign event there.

04:04:26.440 And Michael, this is going to break your heart.

04:04:28.440 Mm-hmm.

04:04:29.440 But Ben is a frigging rock star in South Texas.

04:04:32.440 I mean, it was like Elvis walking in the room.

04:04:35.440 Senator, how much have you been drinking tonight?

04:04:36.440 And my campaign team was like, how is this Ben Shapiro in the Valley?

04:04:39.440 I mean, it was – I mean, they were practically like throwing roses at him.

04:04:45.440 It was awesome.

04:04:46.440 And what a live audience.

04:04:48.440 And Senator, I mean, you know, it is amazing how you shifted the vote margins in the state of Texas.

04:04:53.440 The exit polls right now are showing that you're going to win the Latino vote in the state of Texas outright by six points,

04:04:58.440 where in your last race you lost the Latino vote by something like 28 points.

04:05:02.440 And that is a 34-point shift if that holds.

04:05:05.440 You're watching a complete political realignment of the map, Senator.

04:05:10.440 Look, and it's encouraging for the country.

04:05:13.440 And I actually have to give a shout-out to Joe Biden and Kamala Harris, who all they had to do is open up the border,

04:05:18.440 invite, like, narco-terrorists into the country, and people are like, you people are frigging nuts.

04:05:23.440 Yeah.

04:05:24.440 I think actually South Texas is a generational realignment.

04:05:27.440 I think we're going to see – I'm going to make a prediction in the next year that we see a bunch of elected Democrats in South Texas flip over and become Republicans.

04:05:35.440 Yeah.

04:05:36.440 And they're already conservative.

04:05:37.440 But they've been Democrat for 100 years, and I think this election is really going to shift the math for Texas,

04:05:43.440 and I hope nationally it's going to help shift the math in a significant way for Hispanics across the country.

04:05:49.440 So, Ted, Fox News is now reporting that the Harris campaign has stopped giving all comment to the media,

04:05:53.440 which is always the sign of a winning campaign.

04:05:56.440 So I do wonder if Kamala is behaving like Hillary if she's drunk as a skunk right now and screaming at her age.

04:06:04.440 I don't know.

04:06:05.440 But it does make you speculate.

04:06:07.440 Senator, how important was holding the Senate and flipping the Senate in this election?

04:06:13.440 Look, massively important, and I'll tell you, you guys are fresher on the numbers.

04:06:19.440 I was just listening to you talk about it.

04:06:21.440 I've been on stage until five minutes ago, so I've missed the last hour of developments.

04:06:25.440 I know they've called Ohio, and right now the numbers in Pennsylvania and Michigan and Wisconsin,

04:06:30.440 those are really encouraging, and hopefully Montana, I expect they're going to call that pretty soon.

04:06:35.440 Look, I mean, you're right.

04:06:36.440 We could easily be at 55, which is a sea change and really a big deal.

04:06:42.440 Wow.

04:06:43.440 Senator, do you have any sense?

04:06:45.440 I assume you've been focused on your own race and this massive win.

04:06:49.440 Do you have any sense on the House right now, how Republicans are feeling?

04:06:53.440 I mean, in a way, if we just get the presidency and the Senate, I'll be happy enough and I'll light this cigar.

04:06:59.440 But it seems like with this kind of momentum, we might do well in the House, too.

04:07:05.440 I think we've got a good shot at it.

04:07:07.440 I've seen no numbers, so that's not based on developments tonight.

04:07:12.440 But my view has always been that the White House and the House are positively correlated and that if Trump is turning out big numbers.

04:07:19.440 Look, to win the House and grow our majorities, we've got to win some tough seats in New York, some tough seats in California.

04:07:26.440 And based on the early results, I think we've got a real shot at it.

04:07:31.440 But, you know, look, I expect, I think the odds are looking very good that come January we have a Republican White House, a Republican House and a Republican Senate.

04:07:41.440 And if that's the case, we need to roll up our sleeves and get to work because we have a lot of work to do.

04:07:45.440 That's exactly right.

04:07:46.440 Senator, I know that you didn't make time for much press tonight.

04:07:48.440 We really appreciate you making time for us.

04:07:50.440 You've got a big party to get back to and a lot of hands to shake.

04:07:52.440 But congratulations again.

04:07:54.440 Congratulations.

04:07:55.440 Here we go.

04:07:56.440 Here we go.

04:07:57.440 Look, I love you guys.

04:07:59.440 You are extraordinary.

04:08:01.440 And by the way, congratulations on getting your movie trailer.

04:08:06.440 What was it?

04:08:07.440 On Rachel Maddow?

04:08:08.440 That was pretty wild.

04:08:11.440 We try to have a good time.

04:08:13.440 You've got to tell me, did anyone stream from that?

04:08:15.440 Did you get any MSNBC people, like, logging on saying, I've got to see the movie?

04:08:20.440 Nary a single one.

04:08:22.440 A single one.

04:08:23.440 Least efficient marketing campaign in Daily Wire.

04:08:26.440 I think they all know the answer, which is they think everyone's a racist.

04:08:29.440 That's exactly right.

04:08:30.440 So I'm going to put out a live request to everybody in production.

04:08:34.440 Well, Senator, I know you're busy.

04:08:35.440 Sorry.

04:08:36.440 Senator, get back to your party.

04:08:38.440 Celebrate.

04:08:39.440 Thank you, sir.

04:08:40.440 Thanks, Ted.

04:08:41.440 So I'm going to put out a request to our production team.

04:08:43.440 We need to find out, when do we get to livestream MSNBC?

04:08:46.440 Yes.

04:08:47.440 When do we get to watch the good stuff?

04:08:49.440 Okay, guys?

04:08:50.440 Because come on.

04:08:51.440 Come on.

04:08:52.440 You know what we want.

04:08:53.440 A friend of mine just bought a subscription about 25 minutes ago.

04:08:57.440 He felt it was now in safe enough territory that it was worth the 50 bucks or whatever

04:09:01.440 in order to watch the trial.

04:09:03.440 At least on a free trial.

04:09:04.440 This is like, when can you start playing Christmas music?

04:09:07.440 It seems like the answer may be tonight.

04:09:09.440 Right now.

04:09:11.440 MS3TK, right?

04:09:12.440 We're just going to sit here.

04:09:13.440 It'll be a shot of us from behind just critiquing Rachel Maddow and company.

04:09:16.440 Again, the numbers continue to come in in favor of President Trump.

04:09:19.440 He is currently up by approximately 60,000 votes in Wisconsin.

04:09:24.440 He is currently up by, at last count, 170,000 votes in Pennsylvania.

04:09:31.440 And he is currently up in Michigan by somewhere on the order of 116,000 votes.

04:09:37.440 Interestingly enough, both Pennsylvania and Michigan may be the two states in the country

04:09:42.440 the most impacted by the massacre on 10-7.

04:09:46.440 Yes.

04:09:47.440 By the way, you want a great stat?

04:09:48.440 Here's a great stat for you.

04:09:49.440 You ready for this?

04:09:50.440 Yes.

04:09:51.440 So, the Biden administration, because they're incompetent and horrifying at everything,

04:09:54.440 and because Kamala Harris is incompetent and horrifying at everything,

04:09:56.440 they have achieved the signal feat of alienating both Jews and Muslims.

04:10:00.440 Wow.

04:10:01.440 Wow.

04:10:02.440 That's good.

04:10:03.440 It looks very much as the Detroit Free Press reporter, Neeraj Wariku,

04:10:06.440 reports that Kamala Harris will not win the south end of Dearborn.

04:10:09.440 Whoa.

04:10:10.440 Wow.

04:10:11.440 That's an area that is 90 plus percent Muslim that Biden won with 88% of the vote four years

04:10:15.440 ago.

04:10:16.440 Yeah.

04:10:17.440 And that vote is instead going to the best Jew of all, Jill Stein.

04:10:19.440 Yeah.

04:10:20.440 Wow.

04:10:21.440 So, that's it.

04:10:22.440 Well, this is actually...

04:10:23.440 You can't be psychotic enough for the psychotic, you stupid asses.

04:10:25.440 Well, this is also...

04:10:26.440 No, there's another point here, which is that the war is great in theory for a certain group

04:10:32.440 of people, but it's terrible in practice for every single person involved.

04:10:36.440 And so, in Pennsylvania, you have a large Jewish population who's rightly outraged about

04:10:42.440 what happened.

04:10:43.440 And I suspect that in places like Michigan, you have people who are outraged that the

04:10:50.440 people actually dying in the war are their kin.

04:10:53.440 And what they would like to see is some kind of American leadership that helps, well, A,

04:10:58.440 that could have prevented this, which you had in Donald Trump, to his credit, or could

04:11:01.440 bring this to an end, which I think you will also have in Donald Trump.

04:11:04.440 In Donald Trump.

04:11:05.440 You know, when I was at MSG, I saw sitting 40 feet away from people, 40 feet away from

04:11:10.440 each other, a woman in a hijab, and then just across the way, a guy is holding up an

04:11:15.440 Israel flag.

04:11:16.440 Yeah.

04:11:17.440 This is so funny.

04:11:18.440 They're so close to each other.

04:11:19.440 Why are they both here?

04:11:20.440 Did one of them get tricked or something?

04:11:21.440 You think, no, it is actually rational.

04:11:23.440 How close together were they?

04:11:25.440 They were pretty close.

04:11:26.440 That's like the width of Israel.

04:11:28.440 Yeah.

04:11:29.440 They're roughly the river to the sea.

04:11:32.440 This is, tangentially, you know, we've got to talk about this yo voy a votar, poor

04:11:37.440 Donald Trump situation that's going.

04:11:39.440 This Latino vote that has, if this turns out to be the actual result, that in itself, along

04:11:47.440 with perhaps the shift in black men, will represent something so significant.

04:11:52.440 And what's crazy to me, and I'm only even now in real time coming to realize this, is

04:11:57.440 really what this represents is that Latinos are assimilating.

04:12:02.440 Right.

04:12:03.440 I mean, basically what we're saying, and this is true also of the, you know, hijab wearing

04:12:09.440 woman and the Jew at the MSG rally and, you know, all of these different people that we've

04:12:14.440 seen.

04:12:15.440 You know, again, we've said this a million times, so we don't have to reiterate it, but

04:12:18.440 Trump is imperfect.

04:12:19.440 And yet he represents a certain bullish Americanism that everybody responds to viscerally.

04:12:25.440 And one of the things that has come under question with the influx of indiscriminate

04:12:31.440 illegal immigration is how much racial diversity can that Americanism actually sustain?

04:12:39.440 Yeah.

04:12:40.440 And now, if it turns out that Latinos are flocking to Trump, it will turn out that in fact.

04:12:45.440 Well, speaking of assimilation, Michael Knowles is going to leave this broadcast and go over

04:12:50.440 to TimCast.

04:12:51.440 Our friend Tim Pool is broadcasting live from DWHQ and Michael is no longer going to be

04:12:57.440 a member of this team.

04:12:58.440 He will re-assimilate.

04:12:59.440 He will re-assimilate into that team.

04:13:01.440 How do you like that transition?

04:13:02.440 And I will cease to be an Italian and become a Hispanic.

04:13:05.440 I've been waiting.

04:13:06.440 Like in that one movie.

04:13:07.440 Like in that movie, actually.

04:13:09.440 During the 2016 election, actually.

04:13:11.440 That's right.

04:13:12.440 Yo voy a hablar con Tim Pool.

04:13:15.440 Adios.

04:13:16.440 Adios, amigos.

04:13:17.440 You get one of those little black hats?

04:13:19.440 You know why this is?

04:13:20.440 Honest to God.

04:13:21.440 It's because Donald Trump, you know, they're always calling him a racist.

04:13:24.440 Hold on, hold on.

04:13:25.440 Look at this shot.

04:13:26.440 Look at how good this is.

04:13:27.440 Look at Michael Walken.

04:13:28.440 This is movie making.

04:13:29.440 Wow.

04:13:30.440 Look how beautiful our studio is.

04:13:31.440 Hello, everybody.

04:13:32.440 Do you realize how close these people are to us?

04:13:34.440 I had no idea.

04:13:35.440 It seemed like they were in a completely different room.

04:13:38.440 Unbelievable.

04:13:39.440 Oh my God.

04:13:40.440 This is big.

04:13:41.440 Last time, when we were doing this in 2016, we were in Jeremy's broom closet.

04:13:46.440 There was mold.

04:13:47.440 There were rats scurrying about.

04:13:49.440 Now this is big.

04:13:50.440 And it's all because of the Daily Wire Plus members.

04:13:52.440 We really appreciate you.

04:13:53.440 If you haven't joined yet, now's the time to do it.

04:13:55.440 No one's quite popping champagne, but everyone's getting a little excited.

04:13:58.440 And here we are.

04:13:59.440 Is this?

04:14:00.440 Oh, my man.

04:14:02.440 Don't tempt me.

04:14:03.440 There.

04:14:04.440 You know, the Churchill is magnificent of the Mayflower cigars.

04:14:08.440 I'm not ready.

04:14:09.440 I'm not ready to light them up yet.

04:14:11.440 Come on, man.

04:14:12.440 Are you guys celebrating yet?

04:14:13.440 Hey.

04:14:14.440 Oh, hey.

04:14:15.440 What's going on?

04:14:16.440 How are you doing, brother?

04:14:17.440 I'm not counting your chickens too soon.

04:14:18.440 Did someone just put a little tappy in front of me?

04:14:20.440 Absolutely.

04:14:21.440 Yes.

04:14:22.440 Do you have a glass?

04:14:23.440 I could use a glass.

04:14:24.440 Where do the glasses go?

04:14:25.440 Where do the glasses go?

04:14:26.440 Are the glasses back in there?

04:14:27.440 No, no, no.

04:14:28.440 We have fresh cups.

04:14:29.440 Somebody grab me one, too.

04:14:30.440 The wonderful people at the Daily Wire brought in a bunch of fresh glasses for this delicious Kentucky

04:14:33.440 bourbon that I insist you partake.

04:14:36.440 Look, I was going to wait to celebrate, but that was before Tim brought out like a $2,000

04:14:42.440 bottle.

04:14:43.440 You might as well light up a cigar while you're at it.

04:14:46.440 Exactly.

04:14:47.440 I'm tempted to do it.

04:14:48.440 You look great, by the way.

04:14:49.440 You look great.

04:14:50.440 Thank you.

04:14:51.440 He looks all right.

04:14:52.440 Dapper is the word we use.

04:14:53.440 This is my Mayflower cigars smoking jacket, which is sold out now, so no one can get it,

04:14:58.440 unfortunately.

04:14:59.440 But we're doing it with Shepherds, which is the men's clothing company that is owned in

04:15:04.440 part by Harrison Butker, and I just feel that the right right now, it feels good.

04:15:11.440 I don't want to get out in front of my skis.

04:15:12.440 It feels good, though.

04:15:13.440 I hear you.

04:15:14.440 Indeed.

04:15:15.440 No, I'm there with you.

04:15:16.440 Can I get a cigar?

04:15:17.440 You can.

04:15:18.440 Oh my gosh.

04:15:19.440 Shame it.

04:15:20.440 Shame it.

04:15:21.440 It's the art of the deal.

04:15:23.440 I was asked earlier.

04:15:24.440 The light, the dark, the big, the small.

04:15:26.440 What's the difference?

04:15:27.440 I'll get one of the light ones.

04:15:28.440 The light one is the Mayflower dawn.

04:15:29.440 Is it dawn in America?

04:15:31.440 The dark one is Mayflower dusk.

04:15:32.440 Do you expect him to deliver it to you?

04:15:33.440 You clearly don't watch this podcast because I do, and I know the things and the smoking

04:15:37.440 jacket.

04:15:38.440 Did you want to advertise it instead of it?

04:15:39.440 I don't care.

04:15:40.440 Yeah, we're waiting on something to celebrate officially.

04:15:45.440 I'm so ashamed that we let him not only go over there, but take us all on that journey

04:15:50.440 of hearing him peddle his cigars.

04:15:52.440 We're going to do it on set once.

04:15:53.440 It's like official.

04:15:54.440 If I didn't know him to use that company, I'd be so upset right now.

04:15:58.440 So yeah, things continue to go well.

04:16:01.440 It's a good night.

04:16:03.440 It's a, so far, God willing, it is an excellent, excellent evening.

04:16:09.440 And the Senate races are continuing to look good.

04:16:12.440 House races right now, the House is still up in the air, about 165 Republican House seats

04:16:16.440 that are going to be retained, about 110 for the Democrats.

04:16:19.440 And Democrats need about 43 in order to take the House.

04:16:23.440 They've won four so far.

04:16:24.440 Republicans need about 27.

04:16:26.440 They've won two.

04:16:27.440 So it's still very early for a lot of the House races.

04:16:29.440 But as Ted Cruz suggests, if Trump does well, if the Republicans do well in the Senate,

04:16:33.440 there's every indicator that they're going to outperform.

04:16:36.440 Republicans are outperforming, by the way, including New York.

04:16:38.440 He's going to win 30% of New York City.

04:16:41.440 Really?

04:16:42.440 I'm going to win 30% of New York City.

04:16:43.440 Cabot, you said you had some interesting information for us.

04:16:46.440 Yeah, a few things here.

04:16:47.440 One, CNN just did a very dour report from the Harris headquarters.

04:16:52.440 They said that it was, quote, completely silent at her watch party.

04:16:57.440 We also saw an email from the campaign manager for Harris, Jen O'Malley Dillon,

04:17:01.440 telling the campaign staff to, quote, get some sleep and get ready to close out strong tomorrow.

04:17:06.440 So it sounds like they're telling their campaign staff, all right, you can go home.

04:17:09.440 You can sleep.

04:17:10.440 A few other interesting notes.

04:17:11.440 Bitcoin just hit a record all-time high.

04:17:14.440 Yes.

04:17:15.440 74,000.

04:17:16.440 Dow futures have also soared 600 points in the last two hours.

04:17:21.440 So clearly the crypto and actual markets are thriving now.

04:17:27.440 One more interesting exit poll that we haven't talked about yet, and this might be the sweetest of them all.

04:17:32.440 For voters who said that democracy in the U.S. is threatened, Donald Trump won those voters by seven points.

04:17:39.440 I told you so.

04:17:40.440 Really?

04:17:41.440 Unbelievable.

04:17:42.440 That is a CNN exit poll.

04:17:44.440 Why did you think that was going to happen?

04:17:46.440 Because they asked the question if democracy is the most important thing.

04:17:50.440 And I said, well, that doesn't mean they think that Kamala Harris is the best thing for democracy.

04:17:53.440 Is the representative of democracy.

04:17:55.440 It's a stupid question.

04:17:56.440 Come on, right?

04:17:57.440 She really is a deranged psychopath.

04:17:58.440 Well, there's that.

04:17:59.440 Like, she's a contemptible weirdo.

04:18:00.440 Like, this is sort of, you know, we'll all go back.

04:18:02.440 It's also good for Drew to be right about politics once every four years.

04:18:06.440 I have been right every show, every day.

04:18:08.440 I have the receipts every daily wire.

04:18:10.440 I've told you exactly what's going to happen.

04:18:12.440 This is what it was like to grow up with.

04:18:14.440 By the way, my whole childhood was this.

04:18:17.440 You grew up with a man you're not related to?

04:18:20.440 I would just drop over his house.

04:18:22.440 Strangely, for 18 years of my life, this complete stranger would come over periodically

04:18:28.440 and say, I was wrong.

04:18:29.440 You didn't believe me.

04:18:31.440 I will say that we haven't talked enough about crypto.

04:18:34.440 I started off the morning saying, if Donald Trump wins, Bitcoin will hit 80 bucks this

04:18:39.440 week.

04:18:40.440 Why?

04:18:41.440 Because the kind of people who engage in the crypto markets are necessarily renegades.

04:18:47.440 They're necessarily anti-establishment.

04:18:50.440 And I think that just like so many aspects of our economy have been artificially suppressed

04:18:56.440 by the horrible threat of more regulation, worse fiduciary policy over time, the crypto markets

04:19:05.440 in particular are so afraid that the left is going to regulate them out of existence.

04:19:10.440 Just like social media is so afraid that the left is going to regulate them out of existence.

04:19:14.440 Just like Elon Musk is so afraid that the left is going to regulate him out of existence.

04:19:18.440 And so I'm thinking now, I mean, it already hit $75,000 today.

04:19:22.440 It could hit $100,000 by the end of the year.

04:19:24.440 I will add, I went to a lot of Trump rallies this cycle.

04:19:28.440 The single loudest moment of any Trump rally that I heard was not a Trump rally.

04:19:32.440 It was Trump speaking at the International Bitcoin Conference here in National when he

04:19:37.440 promised to protect cryptocurrency.

04:19:39.440 He was going to fire a number of SEC employees.

04:19:45.440 When he made that promise, it was the loudest applause that I heard of the entire cycle.

04:19:49.440 And one more note I'll add on that trip.

04:19:51.440 We met a former NFL player at that conference who took his entire salary in Bitcoin.

04:19:56.440 He's now a mega, almost billionaire.

04:19:58.440 Michael Knowles told him, oh, I'm not invested in Bitcoin.

04:20:02.440 And he pulled out a card and said, Michael, this QR code, I will give you your first Bitcoin.

04:20:07.440 Here is a QR code.

04:20:08.440 Just scan that.

04:20:09.440 It'll contact me and I'll get you set up.

04:20:11.440 I talked to Michael a few days later at the office.

04:20:13.440 I'm like, did you get your first Bitcoin?

04:20:15.440 And he's like...

04:20:17.440 Are you kidding?

04:20:18.440 Oh my gosh.

04:20:19.440 So we got to ask him about that.

04:20:20.440 We got to ask him, did he actually find that card and redeem?

04:20:23.440 So as of this evening, he left $75,000 on the table.

04:20:27.440 By Christmas, he could have left $100,000 on the table for free.

04:20:31.440 Someone at that conference picked up that QR code.

04:20:33.440 Unbelievable.

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04:21:55.440 Join us now from Trump HQ, where I suspect they're not telling their people to go home and get some sleep,

04:22:03.440 is our very own Mary Margaret Olehan.

04:22:05.440 Welcome back to the show, Mary Margaret.

04:22:07.440 Hey guys, it's great to be here with you.

04:22:10.440 How are things going down there?

04:22:12.440 What's the vibe in the room?

04:22:14.440 Well, everyone out here is very excited.

04:22:17.440 We've been talking to a lot of people on the ground, a lot of these Trump supporters,

04:22:20.440 former White House employees, former White House staff,

04:22:23.440 people who hope they may be future White House staff, and everyone across the board,

04:22:27.440 except maybe some of the liberal media here, thinks that Trump is going to win.

04:22:31.440 So everyone we're talking to is rejoicing, they're really excited.

04:22:35.440 Multiple people told me they think it's going to be a big blowout.

04:22:38.440 It's just very high enthusiasm.

04:22:41.440 And as you can see behind me, they'll show on the screens, Fox or CNN, when they're announcing which state went for which candidate.

04:22:49.440 And whenever a state goes for Trump, there's a huge wild applause.

04:22:52.440 And then there's booing when it goes for Harris.

04:22:54.440 So it's fun.

04:22:55.440 It's exciting to be here.

04:22:57.440 Now, where you're standing right now, you're literally surrounded by liberal reporters.

04:23:01.440 How are they holding up?

04:23:04.440 Yeah, so this has been fun.

04:23:06.440 You know, if you look around, we are surrounded.

04:23:08.440 We've got, I mean, directly to my right and left, we've got Newsmax and Fox News.

04:23:13.440 But then, of course, ABC is a couple of rows down, and then we've got CNN over here.

04:23:17.440 Some glum faces around us, I can tell you.

04:23:20.440 There's some people who were smiling earlier in the evening that no longer are.

04:23:24.440 It's kind of funny to me, too, to be here when surrounded by a lot of people that I've seen online for many years.

04:23:29.440 People be very aggressive, very antagonistic about Republicans or Trump, and who are now here in real life, and they're talking about the news.

04:23:37.440 And it's kind of funny, actually, to see them in real life.

04:23:40.440 One thing, with the Kamala Harris campaign, they've all but said that we will not hear from the vice president tonight.

04:23:47.440 But I suspect that even if we don't get a call tonight, we may still hear from Donald Trump.

04:23:52.440 What do you think?

04:23:54.440 I think we will hear from him whether or not we get a call on the race.

04:23:59.440 A lot of people in the crowd are telling me the same thing.

04:24:02.440 You know, Trump loves his supporters.

04:24:03.440 He loves his team.

04:24:04.440 So we think he's going to show up here whether or not we get results.

04:24:07.440 And as you can see behind me, there's a podium.

04:24:09.440 All his supporters are here and excited.

04:24:11.440 So I hope he comes.

04:24:12.440 I'd love to see what he has to say, even if we don't get results tonight.

04:24:16.440 But I will tell you, a lot of people in here are thinking that we're going to hear the results of the 2024 election tonight.

04:24:22.440 That's, you know, speculation on a lot of their parts.

04:24:25.440 But that's just the vibe in the room that's growing and growing.

04:24:28.440 And I really hope we do, too, because it would be fun to have the results and move on with the next future president of the United States

04:24:35.440 and learn how we're going to make America great and healthy and prosperous once again.

04:24:41.440 Mary Margaret, thank you.

04:24:42.440 We'll be checking in later in the night.

04:24:44.440 And, of course, Marsha Blackburn, senator from Tennessee, recently reelected, of course, won her race and said to our own Michael Knowles that she predicted we would have results by midnight tonight, which is only two hours.

04:24:54.440 By the way, Daily Wire's footprint at Trump HQ was made possible by our friends over at PDS Debt.

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04:25:02.440 By the way, a fellow Jew's coming through over in New York.

04:25:06.440 Yeah, boy.

04:25:07.440 There it is.

04:25:08.440 They're showing up in Westchester County.

04:25:09.440 They're showing up in Nassau County.

04:25:11.440 Donald Trump is currently winning 33% of New York City.

04:25:14.440 33% of New York City.

04:25:16.440 Not the state, the city.

04:25:18.440 Does that bode well then for Pennsylvania?

04:25:20.440 Yes.

04:25:21.440 Because there are a significant number of Jewish voters.

04:25:23.440 So when I campaigned with McCormick, we did a couple, we did one particular event in somebody's backyard with a bunch of Jews there who cared about Israel.

04:25:28.440 They were fired up.

04:25:29.440 There was one lady who was like, listen, I don't know if I can pull the trigger for Trump just because of all his various excesses and all this kind of stuff.

04:25:34.440 And I was like, you don't have a choice.

04:25:35.440 You need to pull the trigger for Trump.

04:25:36.440 And I think that that is coming out loud and clear right now.

04:25:40.440 I tell you, the number of friends that I have in Israel who have been texting me all day long asking me if I thought Trump was going to win.

04:25:46.440 And I was like, listen, I'm cautiously optimistic.

04:25:48.440 I think he's going to win.

04:25:49.440 So there was a poll in Israel of who they wanted to win, of who they wanted to win.

04:25:54.440 And that poll found that by a margin of something like 70 to 6, they wanted Donald Trump to win.

04:26:00.440 I mean, because they know which administration is likely to allow them to, you know, kill the terrorists and face down Iran and which one is likely to side with the terrorists and stop them from killing the terrorists.

04:26:09.440 So, listen, the world is going to be a much more peaceful place.

04:26:12.440 Nate Cohen just put out this statement 24 minutes ago.

04:26:14.440 There's still a lot of vote left in Milwaukee, Detroit and Philly.

04:26:16.440 But for Harris to win, she would need to outperform Biden's numbers here in 2020.

04:26:19.440 So far, she's underperforming Biden's results just about everywhere in the country.

04:26:24.440 OK, that is that bodes ill for somewhere.

04:26:27.440 By the way, I cannot wait for the books to be written.

04:26:30.440 I cannot wait.

04:26:32.440 Joe Biden is going to rush to a biographer.

04:26:34.440 He and Joe are just going to shit so hard all over Kamala Harris and everything that has happened.

04:26:42.440 It is going to be wildly entertaining.

04:26:44.440 The amount of rage Joe Biden must feel right now.

04:26:47.440 And the beautiful thing for Joe Biden and it's wonderful, truly wonderful.

04:26:50.440 It's like the best day of his life right now, because the truth is that had he run, he probably would have lost to Trump.

04:26:54.440 But he didn't.

04:26:56.440 He got ousted for Kamala Harris.

04:26:57.440 So now he gets to claim for the rest of his life that if he had been left in place, he would have beaten Trump and they unfairly ousted him after the most successful first term.

04:27:06.440 And then he's going to get to just crap so hard over this lady.

04:27:11.440 He hates like fire.

04:27:12.440 I mean, he hates her with a fiery passion of a thousand burning suns.

04:27:16.440 Jill Biden, same thing.

04:27:17.440 She's wanted to strap Kamala Harris to one of Elon Musk's rockets and fire her into space for years.

04:27:22.440 It's going to be like the recriminations here are going to be so wonderful and so well deserved by all involved.

04:27:28.440 And I'm here for every single moment of it.

04:27:30.440 Every single moment.

04:27:31.440 Every single moment.

04:27:32.440 I mean, I got to say, like, I thought I thought the writing on this season of Trump was overdone.

04:27:35.440 I really did.

04:27:36.440 I thought this season of Trump had gone off the rails.

04:27:38.440 I thought that they got in the back room writing that script.

04:27:41.440 He's like, you know what?

04:27:42.440 Not not just one assassination attempt to go back to the well.

04:27:45.440 We need a second assassination attempt.

04:27:47.440 What if the Democratic candidate died on the stage?

04:27:50.440 Like, well, that'd be cool.

04:27:51.440 But what if we like totally swapped him out for her?

04:27:53.440 And then what if she picked like this weirdo who has floppy arm syndrome from Minnesota?

04:27:58.440 Like this writing is just bad.

04:27:59.440 It's just not good writing.

04:28:00.440 I'm sorry.

04:28:01.440 It's overdone.

04:28:02.440 It's like it's like some of the worst soap opera stuff I've ever.

04:28:04.440 But I got to tell you, they really nailed the finale.

04:28:06.440 They are nailing the finale.

04:28:08.440 It's unbelievably good.

04:28:09.440 I'm loving every second of it.

04:28:11.440 I cannot wait for the for the online extras.

04:28:13.440 I'm subscribing.

04:28:14.440 I'm like the merch.

04:28:16.440 Oh, the merch.

04:28:17.440 Are you kidding me?

04:28:18.440 The merch is going to be unreal.

04:28:20.440 It's going to be so good.

04:28:21.440 And I got to tell you, the turning point of this election is when Donald Trump and I stood by the grave.

04:28:26.440 And there's a picture of me and Donald Trump making prayers at the grave of Rabbi Mnachemendel Schneerson.

04:28:35.440 That's the moment when this election was decided.

04:28:38.440 Of course.

04:28:39.440 Pure Zionistic laser power.

04:28:43.440 That is when this election turned.

04:28:45.440 Boom.

04:28:46.440 Check out the polls.

04:28:47.440 October 7th, 2024.

04:28:50.440 I will curse.

04:28:51.440 I will curse those who curse you.

04:28:53.440 Correct.

04:28:54.440 There you go.

04:28:55.440 God coming through once again.

04:28:56.440 I had a going theory that I told some friends before this, that God definitely wants Donald Trump to win.

04:29:00.440 I've been saying this for a while, that God clearly wants Donald Trump to win.

04:29:02.440 There's only one reason God turns Trump's head right at the last minute and the bullet misses him by this much.

04:29:07.440 And then the other part of my theory is that Donald Trump was trying to thwart God.

04:29:10.440 And as it turns out, the good part of my theory is that God always wins.

04:29:15.440 You can try and thwart God.

04:29:16.440 You can say, I am not called.

04:29:18.440 I am not worthy.

04:29:19.440 And God will still choose you.

04:29:20.440 And that's how this will go.

04:29:22.440 And so, yeah, you know what?

04:29:23.440 You can see the smile on my face.

04:29:25.440 I'm getting a little confident, guys.

04:29:26.440 I went from cautiously optimistic to nauseously optimistic.

04:29:29.440 And now I'm just, you know, pretty optimistic at this point.

04:29:31.440 I got to say, I'm enjoying the evening.

04:29:33.440 The enjoyment portion of this evening has officially begun.

04:29:36.440 It's now a Jewish holiday.

04:29:38.440 That's right.

04:29:39.440 It went from tragedy to triumph.

04:29:41.440 That's right.

04:29:42.440 It's time to break out some symbolic rituals.

04:29:44.440 It's time to eat some kosher food.

04:29:46.440 It's time to imbibe.

04:29:48.440 And it's time to speak some Yiddish.

04:29:50.440 Yeah, baby.

04:29:51.440 Suck on that, Nick Fuentes.

04:29:54.440 The Hebrew hammer.

04:29:57.440 Yeah, Hebrew hammer.

04:29:58.440 Yeah, that's right.

04:30:00.440 You know, you're terrifying when you're happy.

04:30:03.440 Yeah.

04:30:11.440 Oh, my God.

04:30:12.440 Oh, man.

04:30:13.440 It's amazing to think that Donald Trump could win without the Nick Fuentes vote.

04:30:17.440 Oh, man.

04:30:22.440 The map is just looking better and better.

04:30:25.440 Okay.

04:30:26.440 So if it goes the way we think it's going, those first 100 crucial days, the agenda, tariffs,

04:30:32.440 what else can we say?

04:30:33.440 Don't give a shit, man.

04:30:34.440 Don't care at all.

04:30:35.440 Do not care.

04:30:36.440 Sorry.

04:30:37.440 Still basking.

04:30:38.440 Gonna take a little while.

04:30:39.440 Gonna need a moment with this one.

04:30:41.440 So the first 100 days?

04:30:42.440 Yeah.

04:30:43.440 So the first 100 days, here's what's actually going to happen.

04:30:44.440 What's actually going to happen is the people who are deeply involved in staffing other than,

04:30:48.440 you know, sort of Don Jr.

04:30:49.440 You got Howard Lutnik who's deeply involved in staffing up the administration.

04:30:52.440 I think that the early sort of front runners for some of these positions, Tom Cotton for

04:30:56.440 SecDef.

04:30:57.440 I think Mike Pompeo might be considered for SecState again.

04:30:59.440 If not Pompeo, you might take a look at Marco Rubio, Senator from Florida.

04:31:03.440 You're looking at, for Secretary of the Treasury, that one's kind of hard.

04:31:12.440 Obviously, Musk goes in.

04:31:14.440 He's going to perform some government function.

04:31:16.440 Maybe.

04:31:17.440 Musk doesn't want to be in the government.

04:31:18.440 No, no.

04:31:19.440 Not in the government.

04:31:20.440 Like, he's a special advisor.

04:31:21.440 Yeah.

04:31:22.440 There's some of the investment class that I think you'll see likely nominated for the,

04:31:26.440 you know, some of Trump's New York investment friends.

04:31:29.440 For Secretary of the Treasury, kind of like Mnuchin went in as Secretary of the Treasury.

04:31:33.440 The thing is, Trump has a team that already worked.

04:31:35.440 And so I think a lot of those people end up coming back.

04:31:38.440 I think David Friedman for U.N. Ambassador.

04:31:40.440 Possibly Morgan Ortega is for U.N. Ambassador.

04:31:42.440 Like, there are a bunch of people who are really good who are going to come in.

04:31:45.440 And, you know, they're going to start cleaning it up.

04:31:47.440 And it'll be interesting now with a very robust Senate majority is what this is looking like.

04:31:51.440 At the very least, a robust Senate majority.

04:31:53.440 Yeah, I think he's going to get most of his picks through.

04:31:56.440 So it depends on sort of which place you choose to focus.

04:31:58.440 When it comes to domestic policy, the first thing they're going to do is they're going to make the Trump tax cuts permanent.

04:32:02.440 That is that is task number one.

04:32:04.440 They're going to make those permanent so that those just don't sunset.

04:32:07.440 Right. Because he has to guarantee that he doesn't screw up the economy.

04:32:11.440 The next thing that you're going to do is going to slap a bunch of tariffs on China, which he's going to do, I think, forthwith.

04:32:16.440 And I think he should do because China is a cheater and China is an intellectual property thief.

04:32:19.440 And they happen to be run by an evil dictatorship.

04:32:21.440 So that will be that'll be very good.

04:32:23.440 Remain in Mexico.

04:32:24.440 Remain. Yes.

04:32:25.440 Obviously, on the border, remain in Mexico immediately goes back into place.

04:32:27.440 Reinterpretation of asylum law goes immediately right back into place.

04:32:31.440 Prioritization of deportation of criminally legal aliens goes back into place with widespread deportations of those people and massive new investigative authority for ICE.

04:32:41.440 On foreign policy, I think Israel is going to hit Iran's nuclear facilities between the election and Trump taking office, because I think that that Trump doesn't want that on the table when he gets into office.

04:32:50.440 And with the Israelis knowing that they're going to have a friend back in the White House as opposed to an enemy, they probably go hard and they go fast and they go now because they probably Trump is.

04:32:58.440 I mean, Trump said it openly.

04:32:59.440 He said, I don't want this happening while I'm president.

04:33:01.440 They're like, OK, sure, no problem, man.

04:33:02.440 We'll take care of business right now because we know that you're not there to cut us off at the knees.

04:33:06.440 So I would be shocked if Israel doesn't go quite hard over the course of the next couple of months.

04:33:09.440 One of the under notice stories of the day, because, you know, we have a thing going on, is that Prime Minister Netanyahu fired his his minister of defense in Israel.

04:33:16.440 You have Gallant, who is widely considered on the right in Israel to be sort of a pipeline to the to the Biden Harris administration.

04:33:21.440 And so he's putting in some more of his own people, which means he's likely to go quite hard, quite fast.

04:33:26.440 That is going to bring peace to the Middle East. And Donald Trump is going to bring Saudi into the Abraham Accords.

04:33:30.440 Undoubtedly, that is a thing that Donald Trump has already prenegotiating.

04:33:33.440 That is going to happen. That's why he wants solidity in the Middle East.

04:33:36.440 He wants he wants Israel to finish up whatever they're doing security wise.

04:33:40.440 He wants them to finish up in Lebanon. He wants them to finish up in the Gaza Strip.

04:33:43.440 And then Donald Trump is going to work. He's going to he has all those connects already made.

04:33:47.440 That's all going to come into play. As far as Ukraine, Trump and Vance have already said, contrary to popular opinion, both Trump and Vance have said they will continue to fund Ukraine sufficient so that so that Vladimir Putin does not walk into Kyiv.

04:33:59.440 But they are also going to be realistic about what the prospects for what the final settlement in in Ukraine looks like, which is the solidification of the borders of Donbass and Ukraine.

04:34:07.440 Some sort of commitment to neutrality, but with some sort of additional funding of military resources sufficient to deter a further Russian invasion.

04:34:14.440 Things are about to get. How long do you think that'll take?

04:34:17.440 I mean, I mean, I mean, that's up to Putin. Yeah, that's up to Putin. I think Putin.

04:34:22.440 This is one of the dangers is that if you keep signaling that you're a little weak on it, then Putin probably keeps trying to push and push and push, hoping that you'll just go away and then he'll walk into Kyiv.

04:34:29.440 But here's the thing about Trump. The one thing Donald Trump does not like to do is lose. He hates losing.

04:34:34.440 And he knows that if Putin is seen walking through Kyiv, he looks like a loser. So he doesn't want that.

04:34:40.440 He doesn't want the photos of Vladimir Putin walking through Kyiv in the same way that he wouldn't have wanted the photos of the Taliban walking through Bagram Air Base.

04:34:46.440 Right. So so he's realistic about all of that. So those, I think, are the things that are probably front burner items for President Trump.

04:34:54.440 And then there are going to be some fixes around around Obamacare that will take place.

04:34:58.440 He's not going to do anything on abortion. I mean, he'll he'll he'll put in place, you know, all the right, all the executive orders that Republicans always do.

04:35:04.020 Right. No foreign funding of a foreign funding of foreign abortions, the so-called Mexico rule.

04:35:08.480 I hope that back into place. But, you know, I think all of those are not only doable.

04:35:13.240 I think they're eminently doable. And I think he gets all that done inside the first hundred days.

04:35:16.780 Yeah, I think you're right. We're going to take a break while we wait for the next results to come in and tell you a little bit about what's been going on at Daily Wire Plus.

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04:36:26.800 Well, folks, we're now joined here at Daily Wire HQ by Brent Buchanan of Signal Polling.

04:36:31.140 Welcome back to the show, Brent.

04:36:32.840 So, tell us, how are things going in this great state of Wisconsin?

04:36:36.860 Well, here's a story for you.

04:36:39.220 You're eating jelly bellies, right?

04:36:40.980 I am.

04:36:41.820 Ronald Reagan's favorite?

04:36:43.200 Indeed.

04:36:43.600 Indeed. Okay.

04:36:44.580 Do you know if you go to the factory in California, they sell something called belly flops?

04:36:48.660 And it's the jelly bellies that didn't make it into the bag.

04:36:51.580 I'm not only aware of that, I've done that myself.

04:36:53.560 Well.

04:36:54.160 Because I know all things, except for what's going on in Wisconsin.

04:36:56.640 So, tell me, Brent, what's going on in Wisconsin?

04:36:58.660 Well, this is the segue.

04:37:00.940 Kamala Harris is belly flopping.

04:37:03.100 Oh, nice.

04:37:04.640 Nice, nice, Brent.

04:37:05.680 Loving it.

04:37:06.380 A plus.

04:37:07.220 Grade A.

04:37:08.060 Good stuff.

04:37:08.940 Keep going.

04:37:09.420 Tell me more.

04:37:09.900 All right.

04:37:10.520 So, as we look at Wisconsin, one thing you'll note, real red.

04:37:14.900 Let's look at two particular counties that matter to Kamala Harris significantly.

04:37:19.540 And that is Dane, which is Madison, the capital.

04:37:23.440 And when you look at this historical comparison here, just look at the raw vote differences

04:37:28.240 between these.

04:37:29.440 Kamala Harris is 8,000 under her 2020 numbers.

04:37:32.460 Trump is up 2,000 on his 2020 numbers.

04:37:36.040 She really needed to perform here, and she's down two points on her margin that she had

04:37:40.960 in 2020.

04:37:41.940 And then we'll go down to Rock County here.

04:37:44.100 This is another one that she really needed to perform well in.

04:37:46.920 What's unique about Rock County is it is, let's flip to this, 10% Hispanic.

04:37:52.860 So, this is one of the most diverse counties in one of the whitest states in the entire country.

04:37:58.360 And this was a Biden plus 11 seat, and it is now only Kamala plus seven.

04:38:05.760 So, you just take these factors that we've been talking about, which is the counties she

04:38:10.700 needs are only performing at 2020 numbers.

04:38:13.540 And then you add that into the fact that if they're only performing at 2020 numbers, she's

04:38:18.060 not even meeting Biden's margin in these two.

04:38:20.760 And this was one of the closest states in 2020.

04:38:22.900 It was less than 1% that Biden won this state by.

04:38:27.800 So, what's really happening, because we're plugging all this data into several of our

04:38:32.200 models, and it's this, is that there's not just this overall white change in the vote.

04:38:37.700 What's really interesting is that if a county is really diverse, the white turnout in that

04:38:43.340 county did not change from 2020.

04:38:45.180 So, think of this as like a U.

04:38:46.260 And then, if you have super, super white counties, where almost nobody but white people live there,

04:38:53.460 they didn't move much from their 2020.

04:38:55.660 It was these counties that were about 75 to 85% white, that had the largest shift towards

04:39:02.000 Trump.

04:39:02.740 And if you go back and look historically, they had the largest shifts in 2020 towards Biden.

04:39:07.640 And so, it's not this homogenous, all non-whites are moving more towards Trump,

04:39:11.480 all whites are staying where they are.

04:39:13.320 It's this unique patchwork that's occurring in turnout, depending on what type of diversity

04:39:19.340 there is within your county.

04:39:20.620 But it's all benefiting Donald Trump and white, black, brown, everything in between counties

04:39:25.440 right now.

04:39:25.980 So, Brent, technically, when you read all the data in, on a scale of 1 to 10, how much does

04:39:31.260 Kamala Harris suck as a candidate?

04:39:33.360 And would they have been better off keeping the corpse of Joe Biden in place to actually

04:39:37.820 run?

04:39:38.520 Because the recriminations here are going to be so delicious, I will feast off of them for

04:39:42.460 years to come.

04:39:43.320 Well, I prefer scales that also have negatives.

04:39:46.240 So, let's go with like a negative on that negative 10 to 10 scale.

04:39:50.660 But yeah, and one of the things that we pointed out when they decided to take their democratically

04:39:55.300 elected nominee and swap it out with somebody who did not get a single vote, we said that

04:40:00.880 this is really going to hurt her with union voters.

04:40:03.940 And you saw this in the Teamster vote, where Joe Biden had a slight lead on Trump in April

04:40:09.320 among Teamster members.

04:40:10.740 And then he overwhelmingly was defeating Harris.

04:40:14.200 And that one data point shows you the weakness that she was having.

04:40:17.780 And these Rust Belt states here, from Wisconsin to Michigan, even all the way over to Pennsylvania,

04:40:25.300 very, very heavy union households.

04:40:27.260 And so, even if the Democratic Union voters stay home or they swap their vote, it causes

04:40:32.760 massive disruption in the electoral margins between these candidates, as we're seeing right

04:40:38.080 here play out before us.

04:40:39.860 Brent, right now, Pennsylvania and Wisconsin have more than 80% of the vote in.

04:40:46.140 And Donald Trump in both states has above 50% of the vote.

04:40:51.340 I mean, in the case of Wisconsin right now, Wisconsin, according to Decision Desk, 84% of

04:40:56.060 the vote in, Donald Trump 56 to Kamala Harris's 42, and that's with RFK Jr. still being on the

04:41:03.900 ballot.

04:41:04.840 I mean, we're getting dangerously close to actually being able to call Wisconsin.

04:41:09.480 And if we call Wisconsin, we are essentially calling the race.

04:41:12.700 Yes.

04:41:12.920 Yeah, we also have to assume that a lot of the results that are going to come in are

04:41:17.060 from cities not favorable to Donald Trump.

04:41:19.840 This is just what historically happens.

04:41:22.600 I really hope this is blowout territory so that there's not issues related to, well, what

04:41:27.800 votes were they trying to go find and shove into the count?

04:41:31.240 This is one of the reasons you should be like Florida and report the vote within two hours,

04:41:35.500 and then there's no question as to how the election played out.

04:41:38.960 But it's getting really, really hard to see where Kamala Harris can pull out any of these

04:41:45.660 three Rust Belt states at this point.

04:41:47.600 Well, I also have a piece of breaking news that Republicans have flipped.

04:41:50.720 Wait for it.

04:41:51.080 Wait for it.

04:41:51.380 Wait for it.

04:41:52.260 The governor's mansion in.

04:41:53.480 Wait for it.

04:41:54.560 Puerto Rico.

04:41:55.280 Yeah, I saw that.

04:41:56.700 Can't point in there.

04:41:57.980 We actually won that.

04:41:59.100 Yeah.

04:41:59.380 So yeah, this is great.

04:42:00.420 So Brett, thank you so much.

04:42:01.960 This has been wildly enjoyable.

04:42:03.380 And next time we check in, I hope it will be just as enjoyable or even more so.

04:42:06.960 I'll be eating a different candy, so try to think up a joke about those candies and how

04:42:11.020 we will connect, for example, M&Ms to the situation in Pennsylvania.

04:42:15.640 All right, time to hit the Google.

04:42:17.060 All righty, folks.

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04:42:25.660 It is a great device, and I will need it a lot after eating this entire bowl of jelly

04:42:31.020 bellies in celebration.

04:42:32.080 One hates to get cocky because we have seen stranger things happen, but this is, I mean,

04:42:38.460 this is looking more and more like Donald Trump's going to be the 47th president of the United

04:42:43.340 States.

04:42:43.360 Well, so let's get pessimistic for a moment, just out of curiosity.

04:42:47.480 I mean, her number of confirmed victories is increasing.

04:42:53.120 Trump's still nicely ahead.

04:42:54.560 If you had to be pessimistic and things, how could things still go dreadfully wrong,

04:42:59.160 or is that out of the realm of possibility at the moment?

04:43:01.360 The only way that you would dreadfully be wrong is if she suddenly, like, massive vote

04:43:05.420 dumps in Philly, Detroit, Ann Madison, Wisconsin, Philly, Detroit, Milwaukee.

04:43:10.800 It's the big cities.

04:43:11.880 I mean, I said this early on, actually, so all credit to me because I said it early on in

04:43:14.900 the night, but I said in North Carolina that if she did not win North Carolina, the entire

04:43:21.760 election was going to come down to giant voter turnout in three big cities.

04:43:25.900 Yeah.

04:43:26.080 I did say that, like, within the first 20 minutes of this broadcast, I'm just going to

04:43:28.920 point that out.

04:43:29.780 I was going to point out, so far, the only thing I've gotten wrong is New Hampshire.

04:43:32.440 Just going to say it.

04:43:33.100 You went all in on New Hampshire, though.

04:43:34.720 You went all in.

04:43:35.480 I do have to say that Arizona is very close with 55% of the vote in, which that's still

04:43:40.680 early, but it's essentially a toss-up, 49-49 for the two candidates.

04:43:45.600 So if you're going to get pessimistic, could we end up losing Arizona and sort of unraveling

04:43:50.680 our map a little bit?

04:43:51.600 Nope.

04:43:51.620 Not going to happen.

04:43:52.360 We're going to win Arizona.

04:43:53.040 Arizona is solidly in red territory.

04:43:56.700 According to the New York Times, Arizona is a high likelihood, a very, very high likelihood

04:44:02.020 of a Donald Trump win at this point.

04:44:06.280 Again, it would be kind of shocking were he to lose.

04:44:08.280 They have him up by a projected almost 4%.

04:44:10.800 It's at least safe to say we're going to have a winner.

04:44:12.440 I mean, this probably will not drag on for days.

04:44:14.700 No.

04:44:15.080 I think that there's a very good shot that we will have a winner in the next two hours.

04:44:20.140 I mean, if it continues at this rate, I think there's going to be a temptation by some networks

04:44:24.140 to start calling some of those Rust Belt states.

04:44:27.140 If people want to be super cautious, you're probably talking about late morning, tomorrow

04:44:30.680 morning, or early afternoon.

04:44:32.540 But by tomorrow night, President Trump, I think, will be pretty obvious.

04:44:36.760 If they call one of these Rust Belt states-

04:44:38.580 It's over.

04:44:39.100 They've called the election.

04:44:39.940 Yes.

04:44:40.620 Because Arizona is definitely going to go in Trump's category.

04:44:42.360 He needed it.

04:44:43.160 It was North Carolina, Georgia, Arizona, and one of the Rust Belt.

04:44:44.920 So now the Democrats are going to have to complain that the problem is the popular vote.

04:44:48.720 I thought you were just going to stop that the problem is the people.

04:44:54.700 Yeah.

04:44:55.020 I mean, we're going to go back to that point, but that is what it's going to be.

04:44:57.100 Get ready for it.

04:44:58.100 They are going to rage against the dying of the light, and it's going to be worse for

04:45:02.160 them.

04:45:02.540 They're going to have to go deep into the crevasse of fail before they start to emerge

04:45:06.580 in something like reasonable order.

04:45:09.260 So what do you expect will happen now?

04:45:12.520 Now, let's assume the best for a moment, so to speak, that the Republicans control the

04:45:18.160 presidency and the Senate and the House.

04:45:20.000 And so, and that means you have these really quite radical people, Musk and Kennedy in particular,

04:45:26.680 now taking up dominant positions in the White House.

04:45:30.040 They're threatening the big pharma industry.

04:45:32.820 So that's a major threat.

04:45:34.460 They're threatening big agriculture.

04:45:37.200 Legacy media is like stone dead.

04:45:40.300 The education establishment is in serious trouble.

04:45:43.040 The military industrial complex is unlikely to be happy.

04:45:46.540 Like, what do you guys foresee happening?

04:45:48.420 That's a lot.

04:45:49.820 Well, and that says nothing about the CIA and the FBI, let's say.

04:45:53.680 Like, it doesn't seem to me to be realistic to presume that such people are going to just

04:45:59.180 take this sort of thing lying down.

04:46:00.680 And that says nothing about the leftist radicals who are still, are quite nicely organized after

04:46:05.500 all the pro-Hamas protests.

04:46:07.000 Like, what do you see happening here?

04:46:08.780 I mean, there'll be resistance inside each of these agencies.

04:46:10.840 It's why, you know, the attempt to move a lot of these employees to so-called Schedule F

04:46:15.280 is going to make a huge difference.

04:46:16.640 This is something that the Trump administration is going to try and do.

04:46:19.060 They're going to take the permanent political class and they're going to say they are now

04:46:21.360 fireable under the, you know, articles of the Constitution.

04:46:25.000 The president does have unitary executive authority to fire all of these people.

04:46:29.060 Schedule F meaning what?

04:46:30.400 Schedule F.

04:46:30.900 So right now, by union contract and by regulation, if you are considered a non-political appointee

04:46:37.140 in the executive branch, there's a procedure that you have to go through in order to be

04:46:40.360 ousted from your job.

04:46:41.300 If you are redesignated as a Schedule F employee, that means you're effectively an at-will employee

04:46:45.540 of the executive branch and the president of the United States can summarily fire you.

04:46:48.960 And so that's going to go forward pretty quickly.

04:46:51.360 Again, I think that there are certain areas.

04:46:53.340 It'll be interesting to see what RFK Jr. is actually given.

04:46:56.160 So I think RFK Jr. ends up in charge of like ag and HHS and FDA.

04:47:00.540 No, I think that he probably ends up as like Department of Agriculture guy, like Secretary

04:47:04.280 of Ag.

04:47:05.160 Maybe you put him in charge of FDA.

04:47:07.120 But I think that, you know, again, it's not as if you have-

04:47:10.820 I'd give him HHS, I think.

04:47:12.060 Yeah, I mean, the only problem with HHS is that's really more about the application of

04:47:15.580 Obamacare and Medicaid than it is about like the health things that he cares about.

04:47:18.280 He cares more about FDA kind of stuff, like vaccines or like food and water, right?

04:47:22.820 Like that's more FDA type stuff.

04:47:26.020 Maybe EPA.

04:47:27.600 You know, I think that EPA would be a problem for him because Trump is-

04:47:29.840 Are we going to keep Rachel Levine in place is my question.

04:47:32.300 Doctor.

04:47:33.240 Doctor.

04:47:34.640 Admiral.

04:47:34.840 Admiral Doctor.

04:47:35.240 Only if Donald Trump will bring him on the carpet and force him to admit he's a man and

04:47:39.320 then say-

04:47:40.040 Then he can stay.

04:47:40.720 Then he can stay.

04:47:41.400 For those of you who haven't noticed.

04:47:43.300 Yeah, exactly.

04:47:44.560 So, you know, it'll be interesting to see also, because here's the thing.

04:47:48.100 Congress is still a body in the government.

04:47:49.680 The president doesn't just get to make all the rules and neither does anybody in the executive

04:47:52.660 branch agencies.

04:47:53.680 So if RFK decides to get like super radical about things in a way that Congress doesn't

04:47:58.200 like, Congress can take power back from the executive branch or these things can get

04:48:02.820 challenged in court, I think the biggest hold up to Trump in terms of whatever his agenda

04:48:06.920 is, is going to be the courts, right?

04:48:09.140 There will be a lot of legal cases that are filed against all of this and then it'll get

04:48:14.400 held up and the Supreme Court is not going to take all those cases.

04:48:17.120 A lot of this stuff is going to get held up.

04:48:18.600 Listen, it's very hard to do radical change inside the United States government and I think

04:48:22.800 that that's overall a very, very good thing.

04:48:24.460 It does mean that there are a lot of barriers to entry in terms of the stuff that Trump is

04:48:28.480 going to try to get done.

04:48:29.820 Like when they say that Elon Musk is going to come in and cut two trillion in spent.

04:48:32.700 No, he's not.

04:48:33.180 I mean, that's not, that's actually not possible.

04:48:35.000 It's not possible to cut two trillion.

04:48:36.040 This is also why if, if we have Congress and the presidency, you have to ruthlessly move

04:48:42.080 your agenda forward and start stacking wins and stack them quickly because we know that,

04:48:46.200 you know, that's the situation Trump had in 2016, the first two years.

04:48:48.880 And, you know, the fact is not, not a lot was achieved with all that power for two years.

04:48:55.020 And hypothetically knows more about what he's doing this time.

04:48:58.240 You would hope so.

04:48:58.840 He'll be prepared to hit the ground.

04:49:00.060 And also, and also any, any, like traditionally conservative Republicans have always worried

04:49:04.400 that, well, if we advance our agenda too quickly and too ruthlessly, then the other side will

04:49:08.220 be mad.

04:49:08.940 And then when, when they're in power, think of all the terrible things they'll do.

04:49:11.620 But this is actually what Project 2025 was about, was Heritage attempting to lay out

04:49:15.600 a roadmap for how to effectuate policy rapidly in the first 100 days.

04:49:20.000 Right.

04:49:20.740 And Donald Trump, as a matter of political expediency, distanced himself completely.

04:49:24.340 That's why Trump, as soon as he wins, he needs to say, never mind, I am doing Project

04:49:27.260 2025.

04:49:27.360 Well, actually, and by the way, it's...

04:49:28.660 And 2020 is why I made a tremendous mistake in not issuing some kind of small Bible of what

04:49:34.980 it said because it was so long that the Dems could say anything they wanted about it and

04:49:39.140 nobody knew what it was doing.

04:49:39.540 It was repealing the infield fly rule.

04:49:41.000 Yeah.

04:49:41.200 But I will give you a little insider.

04:49:43.420 I mean, I think I might be the first one to break this story.

04:49:45.520 When Trump shot down Project 2025, that was fair enough, is our real radical agenda.

04:49:52.600 Project 2026, baby.

04:49:54.520 That one makes 2025 look like a child's play.

04:49:57.360 By the way, I mean, it is worth noting here that undoubtedly Clarence Thomas will end up

04:50:03.160 retiring from the bench under President Trump in this next term, and that is because he's

04:50:06.720 76 years old.

04:50:07.920 There's a good shot that Samuel Alito, who is 74, will also end up retiring from the bench

04:50:11.180 and new justices will be appointed in their place, which will enshrine, in fact, a conservative

04:50:16.300 majority on the court for years to come because, you know, that was a scary thing.

04:50:20.260 I mean, Clarence Thomas is the best justice on the Supreme Court.

04:50:22.420 He's still obviously very much with it in mind.

04:50:24.300 He's also 76 years old, and he's not going to play the Ruth Bader Ginsburg game where you

04:50:28.380 end up, God forbid, going under a Democrat and then suddenly...

04:50:31.220 Let's not knock Sam Alito, though.

04:50:31.960 I mean, I'm kind of actually partial to Sam Alito.

04:50:34.000 Sam's great.

04:50:35.040 Justice Alito's fantastic.

04:50:36.280 I mean, again...

04:50:37.240 So both those guys, though, are a little bit...

04:50:39.740 Long in the twos.

04:50:40.340 Long in the twos.

04:50:40.980 By the time that Donald Trump leaves office in this next term, Samuel Alito will be 78

04:50:46.520 years old, right?

04:50:47.400 That you're starting to get into the territory where you really want to think at 77 about

04:50:52.140 whether you want to be the person who ends up, you know, moving into a Democratic administration.

04:50:57.020 I think one of the things that's worth noting here is that, you know, we can be...

04:51:01.460 The number one thing that Donald Trump is going to do is be not Kamala Harris, right?

04:51:05.640 He's going to stop dead that agenda from moving forward and not doing the thing is like 80%

04:51:11.020 of what he needs to do.

04:51:12.340 It's very hard to think of, you know, massive...

04:51:15.520 Like, the things I would want to do, right?

04:51:17.260 Like, restructuring the federal entitlement programs that are clearly going to bankrupt

04:51:20.400 the country.

04:51:20.840 It ain't going nowhere.

04:51:21.620 It's not going to happen.

04:51:22.600 Yeah.

04:51:22.820 Right?

04:51:22.980 Like, we're just going to...

04:51:23.620 We're just going to fly right off that cliff at 100 miles an hour.

04:51:26.300 As you say, it's going to happen when...

04:51:27.340 Because it has to happen.

04:51:28.060 Right.

04:51:28.380 Exactly.

04:51:28.740 I mean, reality will hit and we'll fall off the cliff and then austerity measures or inflation

04:51:32.020 or high taxation will happen.

04:51:33.840 I mean, all those things will happen.

04:51:35.180 But the one thing that Trump really can do, the biggest thing he can do, is radical deregulation.

04:51:40.300 The radical deregulation will happen.

04:51:41.880 Which he started to do already.

04:51:43.260 Right.

04:51:43.680 Now he's going to go to...

04:51:44.320 He had a ratio of two to one, right?

04:51:45.900 For every new regulation passed, you repeal two.

04:51:47.920 Now he says it's going to go four to one, right?

04:51:49.420 For every regulation that is created, four will be repealed, right?

04:51:52.060 All of these are really good and really important things.

04:51:54.400 As far as what happens in Congress, the answer is that, you know, the government is a giant

04:51:59.340 tractor and it just keeps on moving forward almost no matter what.

04:52:03.140 So if you're hoping for Donald Trump to come in and lower the federal debt by leaps and

04:52:07.120 bounds, that's really not...

04:52:09.080 No, he's never said he's going to do that.

04:52:10.300 Correct.

04:52:10.640 That's not the thing you should hope for.

04:52:11.920 The real theory of Donald Trump, and this is where he actually is, like W, unfortunately,

04:52:15.600 actually is this area, is that he believes you can outgrow the debt, right?

04:52:19.280 That if you have enough economic dynamism, eventually you'll generate enough revenue

04:52:23.480 that you can pay off all of that sort of stuff.

04:52:25.700 So again, that's the stuff that's sort of on the table.

04:52:28.560 Again, I'm just going to give you the latest vote totals.

04:52:29.820 So right now, Donald Trump continues to be up by about 100,000 votes with 77% of the

04:52:34.580 vote recorded in the state of Wisconsin.

04:52:36.640 Meanwhile, in the state of Pennsylvania, very, very narrow lead in the state of Pennsylvania,

04:52:40.940 President Trump is up by approximately...

04:52:43.820 Well, actually, not that narrow.

04:52:44.900 My math is bad.

04:52:45.900 He's up by about 170,000 votes in the state of Pennsylvania with 85% of the vote counted.

04:52:50.720 The New York Times is estimating that he will win the state by somewhere in the neighborhood

04:52:53.280 of 2.1%.

04:52:54.340 Wisconsin by 1.8%.

04:52:56.260 Over in Michigan, 48% of the vote counted.

04:52:59.840 President Trump's lead continues to grow there.

04:53:01.980 He's up by about 130,000 votes.

04:53:03.740 They're estimating that he'll win that state by 2.2%.

04:53:06.660 So those are the latest results over there.

04:53:09.420 Is Nevada closed yet?

04:53:10.620 I'm not sure that Nevada's closed.

04:53:11.960 I think Nevada's still open.

04:53:13.580 So that...

04:53:15.280 Or if it...

04:53:16.100 It can't still be open.

04:53:17.040 It's got to be closed.

04:53:18.000 But it closed not all that long ago, so I don't think that they're actually doing

04:53:21.240 like the full count yet.

04:53:22.240 New York Times doesn't have a count on Nevada at this point yet.

04:53:24.240 The polls close at 10 Eastern, so yes, they are closed.

04:53:26.800 Yeah, they closed, but there's not going to be any results in Nevada for a little while

04:53:30.240 yet.

04:53:31.120 But it appears that it may not matter at all.

04:53:34.120 Arizona, Trump's estimate, 3.7% up when all is said and done.

04:53:38.760 53% of the vote count is in.

04:53:40.340 It's pretty much dead even.

04:53:41.280 But the areas that have come in, our areas, Tucson, Phoenix, all the big sort of Democrat

04:53:46.060 areas have already come in for Kamala Harris.

04:53:49.020 So again, a very, very, a shockingly good evening for President Trump.

04:53:54.840 Spencer Lindquist is reporting already that people are leaving the Kamala Harris watch

04:53:58.840 party.

04:53:59.500 Wow.

04:54:00.920 Unbelievable.

04:54:02.140 Oh, they're walking out just like Jill did as soon as she realized that Joe was no longer

04:54:06.960 president of the United States.

04:54:08.480 Republicans are approximately, according to Ryan Gerdusky, formerly of CNN, I'm just going

04:54:12.080 to keep saying that because it's hilarious.

04:54:12.980 And they are 1.5 percentage points away from flipping the New York 9th Congressional District,

04:54:18.440 which is a 62-36 Joe Biden district.

04:54:21.800 Wow.

04:54:22.200 Which is really, really funny.

04:54:23.540 New York 9, where is that?

04:54:25.440 New Jersey 9, New Jersey 9.

04:54:26.580 New Jersey 9, okay.

04:54:27.560 Yeah.

04:54:28.260 So these are truly hilarious results.

04:54:33.020 How good is Joe Biden feeling right now?

04:54:34.840 That's what I'm saying.

04:54:35.800 Like, that's where I want the camera.

04:54:37.580 That's where I want the camera.

04:54:38.440 It's a mixed evening, you can imagine.

04:54:42.120 I don't think it's mixed for him.

04:54:43.420 I think he's feeling it.

04:54:43.920 You think it's just positive?

04:54:45.880 Oh, yeah.

04:54:46.400 If you got knifed in the back by someone that you brought up, you know, and they pushed you

04:54:50.820 to the side.

04:54:51.320 There's still that knife wound.

04:54:52.860 Yeah, and you're still out.

04:54:54.040 Yeah.

04:54:54.260 No, but he's got to feel a little relieved because it could be him getting his ass kicked

04:54:58.820 right now on national TV.

04:55:00.220 And that's a really bad way to go.

04:55:02.160 The better way to go is to be knifed in the back and then claim that you were wrong the rest

04:55:05.460 of your life, which is, like, that's a really great way to go.

04:55:07.720 And then you can say for the rest of your life that, see, this is why you shouldn't

04:55:10.840 have done that.

04:55:11.280 He can say for the next, like, eight days.

04:55:13.920 Good luck to Joe, because this is the first time Joe Biden's prostate's working in the

04:55:16.660 last 25 years.

04:55:18.060 I mean, like, he's got to be really, really, you know.

04:55:21.980 I didn't need that.

04:55:23.960 It's getting late tonight, man.

04:55:25.220 You know, we've been here for 9,000 hours.

04:55:28.160 I'm looking just...

04:55:29.320 You know, Chen Quigur is crying.

04:55:30.620 I'm checking out the networks.

04:55:32.460 David Muir looks sad.

04:55:33.720 He looks very sad.

04:55:34.640 Chen Quigur is basically in tears now.

04:55:36.700 By the way, I got a note that Orange Hitler over here got a lot of, an awful lot of not

04:55:43.500 white people to vote for him.

04:55:44.580 Yeah, sure did.

04:55:45.500 This Orange Hitler fellow.

04:55:46.840 The whole intersectional thing really collapsed in a pile of dust and rubbles.

04:55:51.360 I mean, that dude had, like, five Hitler mustaches.

04:55:53.600 Not just one.

04:55:54.540 Like, all over his face.

04:55:55.460 Just Hitler mustaches everywhere.

04:55:57.360 And we were told that he was, you know, he...

04:56:00.100 What are the poor Hollywood stars going to do?

04:56:02.080 I don't know.

04:56:03.220 I mean, they're pretty much done.

04:56:04.660 They're going to move.

04:56:05.200 They're going to move.

04:56:05.840 That's right.

04:56:06.340 Oh, yeah.

04:56:06.980 Move to Canada.

04:56:07.800 Then they can find out what the progressive agenda really is like.

04:56:11.440 Yeah.

04:56:11.720 Go to Canada, you people, where your money's worth half as much.

04:56:16.220 And we can't put it past these people because we're talking about how they're going to react.

04:56:19.180 They are going to say that Trump is an illegitimate president.

04:56:22.280 You think so?

04:56:22.840 No, they can't anymore.

04:56:23.680 They can't.

04:56:24.280 They're going to say the American people are illegitimate.

04:56:26.040 And that's what I'm looking forward to because now the battle's out in the open.

04:56:28.520 Seriously, I'm looking forward to this.

04:56:30.520 That's the battle that's going to be next.

04:56:31.460 You think they'll accept, they'll be able to accept that he just won?

04:56:34.460 Without Russia, you know, something?

04:56:36.380 Yes, yes.

04:56:36.700 Because, yes.

04:56:37.280 They're running out a scapegoat.

04:56:38.840 Correct.

04:56:39.240 Of course they are.

04:56:40.240 There is only one scapegoat left.

04:56:42.620 And it's the scapegoat that Joe Biden said out loud.

04:56:44.940 And that is the American people are trash.

04:56:46.460 That is, that is, that's going to be the end.

04:56:48.860 That's what we're doing in Canada.

04:56:50.100 They haven't, they have not accepted a presidential election they lost this century.

04:56:54.560 So.

04:56:55.120 Yeah, but they, but here, but who, I mean, you tell me, who do you think that they blame?

04:56:59.520 I mean, they can blame podcasting.

04:57:00.740 They can blame me and Rogan and you and everybody else.

04:57:03.040 Well, they already set that up on New York Times.

04:57:05.060 But, you know, but the press is not going to back them on this.

04:57:07.720 It's going to be a change.

04:57:08.680 I mean, I really do believe this.

04:57:10.280 The press, in order to sell, like, the Russian collusion story, you needed the press all on board.

04:57:15.400 But the press looks like, they look like fools.

04:57:17.920 Well, they're also dead.

04:57:19.360 Like the Rogan interview with, with Trump.

04:57:21.960 It was more important.

04:57:22.900 Oh yeah, that, that was the end of the legacy media.

04:57:24.780 As far as, I mean, they were already on the outs.

04:57:27.100 But what, what, what, what, what is left of them?

04:57:29.500 Yeah.

04:57:29.760 They've lost all their credibility.

04:57:31.280 They have no audience.

04:57:32.740 Right.

04:57:33.020 And, and it's highly likely, I think, that, that what Musk predicted will occur,

04:57:37.040 which is that the broadcast networks will lose their license to broadcast.

04:57:40.680 And they'll be relegated to the cable networks.

04:57:43.220 And they should.

04:57:43.960 They deserve it.

04:57:45.040 There's absolutely no reason why they should occupy that space anymore.

04:57:47.380 I can tell you what the move is, though.

04:57:49.860 Because you're right.

04:57:50.660 They've lost their audience.

04:57:51.680 And so what's their move?

04:57:52.680 Their move is to kill us, which they already telegraphed.

04:57:55.440 The New York Times, the Washington Post had that piece with, with your face on it, Ben.

04:57:58.500 And then the, the New York Times hit all of us.

04:58:01.240 The New York Times, this popped up in my Google.

04:58:03.480 I actually was not in that article.

04:58:04.840 You were.

04:58:05.280 I was.

04:58:06.020 I was weirdly in it.

04:58:08.400 I was the centerpiece of their.

04:58:10.060 Yeah.

04:58:10.260 Of their header.

04:58:10.820 But they didn't mention you either.

04:58:11.920 They never mentioned.

04:58:12.260 Because I said, what did, the headline was, in the podcast election, falsehoods fly.

04:58:17.360 Misinformation flies and YouTube lets it happen.

04:58:19.120 So it was a picture of me right there in the middle.

04:58:21.040 I said, what did they get me on?

04:58:22.180 I think I've been very precise about what I've said.

04:58:25.040 I looked.

04:58:25.620 They didn't mention me.

04:58:26.760 But they want to take down the Daily Wire.

04:58:29.800 Clearly.

04:58:30.120 They want to take down the other podcasters.

04:58:32.200 That's not working out so good.

04:58:33.420 It's not going to happen.

04:58:34.400 Well, it's not going to happen, at least with, with Trump in charge.

04:58:37.540 If the Republicans have the Senate, you know, it's not going to happen for them anytime soon.

04:58:40.780 But I think that is their play.

04:58:42.120 Okay, we're going to, we're starting to lose.

04:58:43.960 Well, we got to clamp down on the guys.

04:58:45.420 I know, I know you're, I know you're a big fan of the Inquisition, but it actually didn't

04:58:49.100 stop the Reformation from happening.

04:58:50.840 And that's, that's, that's what they're doing.

04:58:52.660 That's what, it's the same game plan.

04:58:53.980 That's why we had to kick it into overdrive after you guys started that Reformation.

04:58:57.120 I think, I think that's all over.

04:58:58.800 I can't see that.

04:58:59.520 Yeah, I think, under, under Trump, that's a very, very hard road for them to hoe.

04:59:04.220 So this is why I think they are going to just be stuck with Trump is toxic.

04:59:08.760 The American people are toxic.

04:59:10.360 It's, it's mostly males, but like, I, I don't, I, I.

04:59:13.580 Men are toxic.

04:59:14.280 Men are toxic.

04:59:15.000 It's not going to be American people.

04:59:16.200 It's going to be men, but it's, it's going to be men.

04:59:20.600 But again, I think that too many white women went by majority for Trump.

04:59:25.580 So, you know, I just don't, I don't see how this works out for them.

04:59:30.160 I think they're going to have to be, honestly, it's going to have to be that circumstance

04:59:34.020 turns against Trump to take advantage of it.

04:59:35.540 That's the only way they get.

04:59:36.380 Maybe they sort themselves out.

04:59:38.260 I mean, we have seen some move towards the center.

04:59:41.040 No, but here, so this is my, but here's my problem.

04:59:43.620 I don't know what that looks like.

04:59:45.080 Okay.

04:59:45.440 They, uh, the, the, okay, because they can't, as long as Trump doesn't touch the entitlements,

04:59:50.900 there's no place for them to out-compete him.

04:59:53.260 Yeah.

04:59:53.740 Okay.

04:59:53.940 If they say that we just want to spend more money on, on shit, they've been saying that

04:59:57.220 this whole election cycle and it doesn't make a dent on, on social policy.

05:00:00.540 They went so far to the left that even if they come back to quote unquote moderate left,

05:00:03.760 nobody trusts them anymore because they blew it all.

05:00:05.820 I mean, they, they, they, they wanted to trans kids in the classroom.

05:00:09.060 They couldn't stick with gay rights.

05:00:10.020 They went to like trans and kids in the classroom.

05:00:11.520 If they go back to gay rights, Trump's already there holding a flag, man.

05:00:14.360 He took same-sex marriage.

05:00:15.820 I disagree with him.

05:00:17.000 He took it out of the Republican platform.

05:00:18.340 I mean, that just is what it is.

05:00:19.500 He has occupied.

05:00:20.660 This is the part that's hilarious.

05:00:21.980 This I did say the whole election cycle.

05:00:23.920 Donald Trump occupied the positional center of this race.

05:00:28.060 He forced them to the left.

05:00:29.980 Donald Trump is the most centrist political candidate since John McCain in this country

05:00:33.520 other than on immigration.

05:00:34.900 That is just the reality.

05:00:36.140 You can tell that by all the Democrats who are running with him.

05:00:38.880 Yes, yes, yes, yes.

05:00:40.400 By the way, you want a great stat?

05:00:41.360 Here's a great stat, folks.

05:00:42.460 You're going to enjoy this one.

05:00:43.300 Which state is currently running closer, New York or Florida?

05:00:49.480 What?

05:00:50.120 New York is currently running closer than Florida.

05:00:52.780 Kamala Harris has a 12-point advantage in New York.

05:00:55.520 Donald Trump's a 13-point advantage in Florida.

05:00:58.400 Well, Joy Reid just called Florida a right-wing fascist state.

05:01:03.480 Yeah, baby.

05:01:04.580 Oh, yeah.

05:01:05.320 You can tell Florida's doing something right here.

05:01:07.220 That's my state.

05:01:08.260 Gotta love it.

05:01:09.640 Just a second.

05:01:10.340 Just a second.

05:01:11.060 I'm feeling the joy.

05:01:12.160 That's awesome.

05:01:13.620 Florida seems great.

05:01:14.800 Everything about Florida seems great except for the weather.

05:01:16.640 And the allegation.

05:01:17.320 And the allegation.

05:01:18.000 Okay, but the thing is, when you're in Florida, because there's no state income tax, you can

05:01:21.280 afford to buy a summer home.

05:01:24.620 There's no state income tax in the great state of Tennessee.

05:01:27.600 There you go.

05:01:28.420 And it is true.

05:01:30.700 Nor is there an allegation.

05:01:32.160 I will acknowledge.

05:01:33.120 So, David French is wrong on nearly everything, but he makes a good point.

05:01:35.380 If present trends continue, this Trump victory will swamp all the micro-explanations.

05:01:39.100 Shapiro's VP would not have changed this.

05:01:40.800 Keeping Arab Americans in Michigan wouldn't have changed this.

05:01:43.180 It's all the big stuff.

05:01:44.180 Defeat in Afghanistan, a porous border, inflation, and Biden's refusal to acknowledge reality and

05:01:48.420 step aside in time for Democrats to have a real primary.

05:01:51.120 That's factually true.

05:01:51.740 I think that's true.

05:01:52.460 That's true.

05:01:53.000 That's true.

05:01:53.480 Who wrote that?

05:01:54.460 French.

05:01:54.960 David French.

05:01:55.760 Oh, David French.

05:01:56.440 He's wrong on a lot of stuff, but he's right on that.

05:01:58.020 Could I also say, we've talked about how the left will react to this.

05:02:02.420 On the right, though, if Trump wins, assuming this all holds, I certainly hope, one of the

05:02:08.660 things I'm most excited about, if Trump wins, is that I hope that this will become a time

05:02:13.880 on the right where we can actually have some unity among conservatives, which is, I guess,

05:02:19.800 easier to do in victory.

05:02:21.380 But it's the last four years of just ripping each other to the stretch.

05:02:27.000 Conservatives love doing that.

05:02:27.900 You get 100 conservatives into a room, they're going to find the one thing they disagree

05:02:31.160 on.

05:02:31.780 It's like high school.

05:02:32.740 It's worse than high school.

05:02:33.840 They're all going to just have all these petty little nitpicky things.

05:02:36.660 They're all going to ankle bite whenever anyone has any success.

05:02:39.420 But one hopes now, if the night continues as it is going, Trump has the big success.

05:02:45.320 And so maybe we can all at least, you know, say we're going to need that.

05:02:49.380 If you want to take advantage of this and move the ball forward and advance your agenda,

05:02:53.800 it's like we all got to be on the same page.

05:02:55.280 Yes.

05:02:55.600 Yeah.

05:02:55.740 And we got to be able to achieve that for an extended period of time.

05:02:59.280 You're going to have people on one side trying to bring back Bush, McCain, Romney, because

05:03:03.760 that's what they're so angry about.

05:03:05.460 You're going to have that very, I think, very small but vocal thing on the other side trying

05:03:10.080 to turn it into like a fascist, hate you.

05:03:12.140 But, you know, and the thing is, those guys are going to have a big voice online and in

05:03:17.200 the Wall Street Journal.

05:03:17.980 But I think if you ignore them, they just don't have the power anymore.

05:03:21.320 The power is now in the workplace center.

05:03:24.140 I think the great lesson to achieve what you want, people have to stop thinking, if I differ

05:03:30.520 with you on one thing, we have nothing in common.

05:03:33.780 I don't understand that mentality.

05:03:39.900 It's been a motto of my radio show for 40 years.

05:03:43.300 The only candidate you will ever agree with entirely is you if you run.

05:03:49.540 There is no one else.

05:03:51.840 And yet people say, oh, he said that.

05:03:55.400 Yeah.

05:03:55.660 He's out of my life.

05:03:56.880 Forever he's dead.

05:03:57.660 Yeah.

05:03:58.800 Right.

05:03:59.320 By the way, you might not even agree with yourself all the time.

05:04:01.640 Yeah.

05:04:02.080 You know, people use change.

05:04:03.360 Yeah.

05:04:03.660 Yeah, that's right.

05:04:04.640 With President Trump, you know, he has become more fluent in speaking as a conservative

05:04:10.860 since he ran in 2015.

05:04:13.600 And, you know, it shows on the trail.

05:04:15.760 So what does the pro-life movement do next then as they're looking at this Trump administration

05:04:19.940 that managed, what we think will be the Trump administration that managed to win

05:04:24.120 while tacking to the center on that issue, changing the language of the GOP platform?

05:04:30.700 How do they now navigate a world in which the GOP doesn't necessarily entirely back their

05:04:36.360 policies and yet they also have jobs?

05:04:40.620 I think that's overstated.

05:04:42.120 I think, you know, Jeremy, you made this point very well earlier in the show.

05:04:44.840 Trump got a lot of flack for taking the abortion ban out of the GOP platform.

05:04:49.720 I think the reason he got flack for that is because people refused to acknowledge that

05:04:56.320 the Dobbs decision didn't just move the ball down the field for us.

05:04:59.640 It did do that.

05:05:00.720 It fundamentally changed the field.

05:05:03.200 It reset the field.

05:05:04.460 Previously, before Dobbs, calling for a national abortion ban was not only a just thing to

05:05:10.340 do, it was politically advantageous to Republicans.

05:05:13.160 It ceased to be politically advantageous after we had lost every ballot referendum that we

05:05:18.320 had put up for pro-life.

05:05:20.120 So, you know, again, I don't want to just flack for Trump here and say I would have said

05:05:25.120 exactly the same things he did or whatever.

05:05:27.220 He initially said he would oppose or support the pro-abortion amendment in Florida.

05:05:31.340 Then he came around.

05:05:32.240 He said, no, no, I'm not going to support it.

05:05:33.820 You know, he's changed his language a little over time.

05:05:36.860 But we are in a completely new ballgame here.

05:05:39.740 And so the goal is to protect innocent life.

05:05:42.700 We just, that's the goal.

05:05:43.800 We're going to have to change our strategy up a little.

05:05:45.160 I think what it means is, obviously, the fight is state to state now.

05:05:50.560 And it's an incremental fight.

05:05:53.500 And that's something that pro-lifers and conservatives just have to, you know, there's always this

05:05:57.860 argument, especially among Christians, about, well, incrementalism, is that really the

05:06:00.820 way to, of course that's the way to go.

05:06:03.020 Incrementalism just means that you are, you're going to take the best possible thing you can

05:06:08.400 have now is what you're going to take.

05:06:10.220 That's just life.

05:06:11.260 That's every day, every moment of life, you choose the best possible thing you can have.

05:06:15.360 And that's going to be the fight going forward.

05:06:17.500 That's, of course, right.

05:06:18.440 The problem with Roe v. Wade is that it allowed Republican politicians to lie to pro-life voters

05:06:26.240 for 50 plus years and say that they were abortion absolutists when the vast majority of

05:06:33.000 them weren't, but they're, they could never be called on it because Roe was never going

05:06:36.680 to be overturned.

05:06:37.700 And then the unimaginable happened and Roe was overturned.

05:06:41.660 And suddenly you're realizing that these politicians were always just being politicians.

05:06:46.280 Life was, life was an easy layup win that they were never going to be responsible for advancing

05:06:52.180 in any way.

05:06:53.020 And what I truly believe is that the, the fight for overturning Roe was a long shot fight

05:07:01.480 that took a generation and a half to win.

05:07:07.060 And the fight for now individual, the actual fight against abortion was not the fight against

05:07:12.060 Roe v. Wade.

05:07:12.720 That was the fight against Roe v. Wade.

05:07:14.480 The actual fight against abortion is going to be a generation and a half of fighting in

05:07:19.320 the culture, which we have not done at this level before, of technological advances, which

05:07:26.100 some Christians will find distasteful, but will actually help over time reduce abortion,

05:07:31.580 of national revival, which will be an incredibly difficult thing to accomplish, but has been

05:07:39.100 going on since the beginning of time.

05:07:42.760 There's always been a cycle of, of, of falling, falling away from God and drawing nearer to God.

05:07:49.940 Like that's, that is just part of the human civilizational experience.

05:07:52.880 I actually think that all, all the trend lines actually work in our favor over time to do away

05:07:58.540 with this complete horror called abortion.

05:08:00.140 Again, you cannot, no one is more pro-life than me.

05:08:04.260 There are things that I believe about abortion that I cannot say on the air because we would

05:08:09.240 be deplatformed. I'm a complete and total abolitionist radical. And yet I do live on

05:08:16.700 a planet where I know I'm not trying to preserve ever. I'm not trying to preserve my positive view

05:08:23.280 of myself. I don't care if you think I'm a bad Christian. I am a bad Christian. That's what it

05:08:29.660 means to be a Christian. When you think you're a good Christian, I don't believe you understand

05:08:34.520 Christianity in the first place, the premise of which is all of sin and fall short of the glory of

05:08:38.120 God. You can't, you can't make me feel guilty. I know how pro-life I am. And I am just telling you,

05:08:43.460 no matter what any politician tells you, abortion is not going to become illegal in this country in

05:08:48.720 2024. It's not going to become illegal in this country in 2028. It's not going to become illegal

05:08:53.660 in this country in 2032. That is not how that fight is going to happen. That is not the timeline

05:08:58.360 on which that fight is going to happen. You're going to have to actually get your hands dirty and win

05:09:02.940 incremental gains at the local and state level. On everything. Every day. On every subject. By the

05:09:09.820 way, I asked Matt, I know you want to say something, so I'll make sure you get here. I just want to,

05:09:16.880 it just occurred to me, I asked Matt in the other room, who's the second unhappiest man in the world?

05:09:22.640 And he immediately said, second, second happiest. Happiest is Trump. Is Trump. And he got Joe Biden.

05:09:30.900 So I have another riddle for all of you. And this is the world. This is, so I'll give you a hint. It's

05:09:36.180 a non-American. Who is the least happy person outside of Kamala Harris at this time? Non-American.

05:09:45.380 Non-American. Non-American. So Barack Obama, clearly.

05:09:48.160 No. That'd be who we mean. The Ayatollah. Correct. The Ayatollah. That's right.

05:09:52.980 This, this is his nightmare. Yeah. Because he, he, uh, he can't do what he wants if there's a

05:09:59.840 President Trump. Right. I asked Neil Ferguson, one of the greatest living historians who, who I don't

05:10:06.240 identify. I mean, he's conservative, but he, but he's not political particularly. He was at Harvard and

05:10:12.280 then he's married to Ayaan Hirsi Ali. He's, he's an extraordinary man. I asked him on my show,

05:10:17.200 uh, and I had no idea what he would say. This is three years ago. Would Putin have invaded Ukraine

05:10:25.120 if Donald Trump were president? I give you all my word. I did not know what he would say. I, I, I,

05:10:32.760 but I wanted to know from one of the few historians I respect what the answer was. There wasn't a gap.

05:10:39.560 And he said, no, certainly not. And, and the same thing with Khamenei about, with regard to Israel,

05:10:47.480 he could do whatever he wants because the Democrats were in power. And now if, if Trump is elected,

05:10:54.400 this is, this is a new ball game in the Middle East. You know, I think this thing about,

05:11:00.260 wait, I promised her. Oh, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Well, now I'm taking it back to abortion and it feels

05:11:04.520 like we've moved on. No, no, no, no, no. We do that. Yeah. But, but my question is,

05:11:09.540 does the pro-life movement learn how to leverage their political power again? Because I think

05:11:16.700 when you look at so many of the rank and file, they look at something like that as distasteful

05:11:22.520 because they have now spent decades looking for, I'm just trying to elect someone who agrees with me

05:11:27.440 as opposed to, I am learning how to, uh, wield sticks and carrots and how do they get back to

05:11:33.300 that? Part of the thing about Roe v. Wade is that it legitimately changed the culture,

05:11:37.540 legitimately changed. A generation grew up thinking that this was an urgent human right to kill your

05:11:43.000 baby and that this baby was not an individual person. And it has, there's no logic to it and

05:11:48.540 has no excuse, but it is what people believe. It is where they live. And so I think people like

05:11:54.680 Delilah Rose, people who've been sincere fighters in it really did change over their tactics over

05:11:59.780 time to address that culture. But now they have to address it at its deepest level. And I'm,

05:12:04.420 I'm sorry, that's going to take things that conservatives are bad at. It's going to take

05:12:07.860 art. It's going to take, you know, a new kind of way of talking and it's going to take sympathy

05:12:13.080 with people that we don't have sympathy with and forgiveness for people who we wish we didn't have

05:12:17.620 to forgive. Uh, you know, today, today on, on X, there was a beautiful video of a woman talking about how

05:12:24.100 her, the father of her baby wanted her to abort. And she said, no, and I'll never sue you.

05:12:29.560 Just go away. And then the doctor said, this baby is going to be deformed. You should abort. She said,

05:12:34.860 absolutely not. I'm not going to do it. Had the baby. The baby's now five years old, beautiful baby,

05:12:39.100 completely undeformed. And she told her story. I mean, you know, I was sitting there going like,

05:12:43.420 oh my God, you know, this is, it was a beautiful, beautiful. And I, I retweeted it and people started

05:12:48.360 posting things like, did she have to use the F word so much? Yeah. Did she have this? No, you know,

05:12:52.860 that's where we got it. That's what we have to get past. And we have to get past that and understand

05:12:57.360 that that's a hero. She grew up in a culture that didn't teach her not to say the F word and we've

05:13:01.740 got to change it. The, I just want to say that the, that the, the actual, the pro-life fight in

05:13:07.300 the trenches, uh, doesn't change at all because like, like in the trenches and I do want, this is

05:13:13.560 important to say, because like I said before about how I, I, all the, uh, conservatives like ripping

05:13:18.940 each other apart for the last four years has been very troubling. And I hope we can get past some of

05:13:22.960 that. And some of that has also been the way that, uh, some people on the right have turned against

05:13:30.660 pro-lifers and pro-life activists and talked about them. Like they've just been like, they're nothing

05:13:36.060 but frauds. They haven't, they haven't achieved anything. And it's like, no, you say that because

05:13:41.920 you, you've never been around these people. You've never been in the trenches, but the actual,

05:13:45.700 like the real pro-life fighters are the ones that are at the clinics. Okay. And they're going to the

05:13:50.600 clinics on Saturday mornings and they're talking to the women who are going in and they're, they're

05:13:54.560 running like pregnancy resource centers. Um, and that's the actual movement. Like those are the

05:13:59.160 people that are, that are leading this movement and their job doesn't change. I mean, their job is

05:14:04.380 exactly the same as it's always been. And, uh, and any, any victory, and I agree with changing the

05:14:09.660 culture and art and all that stuff at a higher level needs to be done. But, um, those people,

05:14:15.700 in the fight against abortion are the anchor of the movement always have been. Um, and, uh, and I,

05:14:21.560 and so that's, I also have grace because a lot of those people tend to be more of the absolutist

05:14:25.280 and they have trouble with the incremental approach. Yeah. And I, and I believe in the

05:14:28.560 incremental approach, but for them, like this is their life and they've given their life to it. And,

05:14:33.320 uh, that's why they have trouble sometimes seeing, doing what they see as compromise

05:14:38.440 when they're in this every day. Uh, but so I understand that emotionally, but.

05:14:43.780 You're, you're also going to suffer setbacks like overturning Roe was always going to lead to an

05:14:50.740 increase in abortion. Roe was, Roe was in some ways a bulwark. Well, I'm sorry. Roe was in safe,

05:14:58.360 in some ways, uh, actually, uh, a limiting factor for abortion in many parts of the country.

05:15:04.520 And now that it's gone, what we're seeing is that yes, some states like Florida are able to have great

05:15:09.700 abortion law. And some states like Minnesota are going to be like, bring us your five-year-old

05:15:14.220 and we'll deal with this problem for you. Because now, because Roe had limits on trimesters. And of

05:15:19.060 course they found ways around all that, but it was a limiting, a national broadly applied.

05:15:24.020 So maybe therefore law may not be the best vehicle. This is my position. My position is that there are

05:15:31.980 two better vehicles than laws, because there will always be states that allow it. And, and now that

05:15:37.440 will obviate the power of the law. One is persuasion. Uh, uh, uh, I will just say my PragerU video on

05:15:46.200 abortion, which begins with, I am not addressing the issue of legality. Only the issue of morality

05:15:53.760 has, has, has gone viral. It's like 10 million views at least. And without once saying a word about

05:16:02.740 law, legal or not legal. But when you, when you make a person, which I think is, is an unanswerable

05:16:11.080 case for how could you argue that if a mugger shoots a woman who is pregnant and kills, kills the

05:16:18.960 baby, he goes to prison for murder. But if she wants the child killed, then it's a non-issue.

05:16:25.460 It's not, it's not tenable morally. The other is how about this? If you're going to pass a law on

05:16:31.620 this law, I would be for informed consent. That's all. If you go for an abortion, we want you to know

05:16:38.980 what is involved. Here is a film on what the fetus is, what is happening right now. Then make up your

05:16:46.680 mind and make that film unemotional, as objective, as scientific as possible, informed consent.

05:16:55.160 It'd be very hard for liberals to argue. Leftists will always argue against it. But I think liberals

05:17:01.800 will say, well, we'll make that trade. You don't ban it. And we'll give you informed consent laws.

05:17:07.860 How's that possibility? I don't know that it would do what we think that would do. Only because if you

05:17:14.040 look at what just happened in Washington, D.C., and you see these women marching through the

05:17:18.680 streets now, banging on their drums in this very sort of sacrament way as they're talking about

05:17:25.100 abortion, I do think there is a part of the pro-life movement that talks about women like we don't

05:17:31.240 understand what we're doing when we do that. And I think that maybe there's a little naivety when they

05:17:37.420 look at women like that, like everyone is a 17-year-old girl who doesn't fully understand how this

05:17:42.200 functions. And I think most women today, we do know. And there does need to be a certain movement

05:17:47.740 towards talking honestly about women's understanding about the evil practice they're engaging in.

05:17:54.720 What I think is that we're not going to know how to abolish abortion for at least 40 years. I think

05:18:05.220 it's going to be truly a generation and a half. It doesn't mean we're not going to gain all kinds of

05:18:09.940 victories along that road. We'll get it obviated in states. We'll get it outright banned in states.

05:18:16.600 We'll find technological solutions that help us with the persuasion argument. Already ultrasounds

05:18:21.820 are very powerful tools for helping convince women that there is a path beyond abortion. I think

05:18:28.700 there'll be all kinds of victories between here and there. But just like we didn't know that a pro-choice

05:18:34.260 lifelong New York Democrat was going to give us the justices that overturned Roe v. Wade,

05:18:39.080 we don't know sitting here today how we're ultimately going to win this fight. We just have to keep

05:18:43.760 fighting it. Right now, we have to go say thank you to some of our sponsors who made it possible for

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05:19:56.480 All right, we want to get back into bringing you some updates about the election. Right now,

05:20:04.060 according to the New York Times, with 53% of the vote in in Arizona, Donald Trump is leading by

05:20:10.360 13,000 votes. Very, very close, but obviously we're still early in the count. Now, Maricopa

05:20:16.820 County is saying that it could take them 10 to 13 days to tabulate the vote. This is insane. It's

05:20:21.520 unbelievable. And completely unforgivable. And I hope a court goes in there and tells them they

05:20:25.880 can't. Can we start like a Daily Wire fund where we pay to ship all of Florida's election workers?

05:20:31.800 Yes. In Copa County.

05:20:33.180 I have to say that Ben is, it certainly seems Ben is right about one thing. Jonathan Capehart of PBS

05:20:40.600 just said that he's mystified that Trump is gaining support. Who are we as a country? I'm not sure I like

05:20:47.000 it, he said. Blame the people. Blame the people, yeah. In Pennsylvania, 88% of the result is now in

05:20:54.840 Donald Trump leading 51% to Kamala Harris's 48%. So why are they announcing that we won't have

05:21:01.240 results in if 88% are? Pennsylvania was saying before we even got to the day, yeah, that we would

05:21:06.200 not have results. Oh, oh, so is that the place where the court ordered them? They ordered them to not

05:21:10.620 stop. They ordered them to not stop. Okay, so we may have Pennsylvania. It is very, it is. And at the rate

05:21:15.260 it's going, he has won Pennsylvania. Dennis Prager just called it. We can go home. Good point. I was a

05:21:22.580 question. I don't know. I thought I had a question. As you know, these votes come in from different

05:21:27.320 precincts that have different sort of demographics at different times. Right. So it's not as though it

05:21:31.820 scales from here to there equal to how it is now. I mean, you can see, the slowest places are usually

05:21:38.260 the bluest cities and the bluest cities bring in a big batch and it can wildly swing. And are they

05:21:43.020 calling the Senate seat in Pennsylvania? That's a good question. Have we called? No. Also not. Yeah,

05:21:49.040 we've not called the Senate seat. Michigan, who also is saying that it could be tomorrow before the

05:21:53.520 votes are in, currently 58% reporting. But Michigan's looking very good. Donald Trump, 52% to Kamala's 46%.

05:22:02.260 And Wisconsin, right now, 83% of the vote is in. Donald Trump leading Kamala Harris, 51%, 47%.

05:22:10.020 Minnesota, which Donald Trump is not going to win Minnesota. I don't want to hurt anybody's

05:22:14.800 feelings here that Minnesota is only barely free. But Minnesota also says they probably can't count

05:22:22.280 them all today. How did you possibly expect us to count them all today? And they're all Democrat

05:22:25.560 votes, so they have no reason. Yeah. So I wonder if a proposition, at least that's how we do it in

05:22:32.840 California. If a proposition in all 50 states were on the ballot next time people vote,

05:22:41.740 counting will never cease until a decision is arrived at in our state. I think most people

05:22:51.660 would vote for that, even Democrats. Oh, yeah. You agree? Oh, yeah. I think just about everyone

05:22:59.620 thinks that this should happen quickly, except the people who have a vested interest in it not

05:23:03.440 happening quickly. And who might that be? Decision Desk saying, our partners at Decision Desk saying

05:23:10.640 86% of the vote is in right now in Pennsylvania. Trump leads 50.9 to 48.2 Kamala. So, I mean,

05:23:20.440 Wisconsin and Pennsylvania right now showing Trump leads. His lead in Wisconsin, I think,

05:23:28.060 fairly substantial with 84% of the vote in. Still early, only 61% in Michigan. So early to know.

05:23:34.100 There's a couple of other, you know, main where they can even split some of their votes, I think. So

05:23:39.420 it's a, that's going to be a slow one. But again, what do you do about the fact that Maricopa County

05:23:44.120 thinks that it takes 13 days to count their ballots? Yeah, what do they claim they're doing for 13 days?

05:23:51.000 What is the process that takes 13 days to count? I don't know. They say they're not allowed to start

05:23:57.600 counting until they have reached that point where the ballots are still allowed to come in. So

05:24:02.480 they, I guess, by law, cannot start counting until that point.

05:24:09.440 Which seems ridiculous. That seems like a state in need of a new law. Yeah.

05:24:12.700 And the ballots are allowed to come in until when? Uh, I'm not. Until the Democrats win.

05:24:18.540 Right. I mean, it's, there, there's been a debate over whether it's like three days after. Yeah. So,

05:24:26.020 I mean, that's how you're getting a week out from. Do we know, do we know the college student vote?

05:24:34.340 We don't. And I don't know if you were accurate when I said this, but, you know, my big fear going into

05:24:38.720 this election, I thought that Kamala had a path to winning 50 states. I didn't think it was going

05:24:42.880 to happen. But with the, with the ubiquity now of mail-in ballots, they can turn college campuses

05:24:48.200 for the first time into ballot harvesting operations. They obviously were not able to accomplish that

05:24:53.020 in time for this election. If they had, it would have been an unbelievable swing. But maybe not,

05:25:00.100 maybe not. The young people don't seem to have broken his part to the left. Well, the young people,

05:25:04.640 the young people who vote. Yeah. Have voted more to the right than we might have assumed that they

05:25:10.960 would. But again, that's a, that's assuming that you're not creating these ballot harvesting

05:25:15.280 operations that almost changed the nature of voting for being something that you have to proactively do

05:25:20.300 to something that you do not have to proactively do. The problem is they are going to wisen up and

05:25:25.360 try to do this in four years. And we've got to get incredibly serious about what we're going to do

05:25:29.100 about it. Would Ron DeSantis have won? Had he been the nominee? Yeah.

05:25:34.640 Hmm. Yes. I think that, uh, Trump has some very unique assets going into this race and he has some

05:25:43.900 unique liabilities going into the race too. Uh, I think that there are a lot of people who said that

05:25:48.940 they, if you go all the way back to the spring, there's an enormous body of people who said that

05:25:54.620 they wanted to vote for whoever wasn't Joe Biden or, uh, Donald Trump. I think that that was,

05:26:00.640 that there is that sentiment in the, in both parties. Now, as it turns out, anyone who isn't

05:26:06.280 Joe Biden actually didn't, it turns out they didn't mean anyone, right? They, they picked someone

05:26:11.840 who was so obviously unfit to be president that I think they're not going to carry the night.

05:26:17.720 Um, could anyone have won against Kamala other than Donald Trump? I'm not saying that.

05:26:22.760 The reason I posted is because we raised the issue of, of, of Republicans and, and infighting

05:26:28.820 and so on. So, uh, I, I admit that I have contempt for the never Trump Republican, never Trump

05:26:37.300 conservative. That, that, and I know almost all of them personally. So this is painful,

05:26:43.560 but to, to prefer the left to Trump is a derangement. However, I wonder if for every never Trump

05:26:54.960 conservative or Republican, is there an only Trump conservative or Republican? And, and I must tell

05:27:03.960 you, I have just as much disdain for the only Trumper as for the never Trumper. Certain.

05:27:09.600 Michael Knoll's hardest hit. Uh, I, I do think of course that there are some only Trumpers and,

05:27:16.720 and they can be very loud and obnoxious on the internet, but I don't, I don't believe that

05:27:20.800 that's a sizable contingent. I think that people want the country to work and they believe that

05:27:27.880 Donald Trump's going to give them that. And so they become very passionate for Donald Trump. As for

05:27:31.840 the never Trumpers, you know, I, I didn't vote for Donald Trump in 2016. And my argument for not

05:27:37.460 voting for Donald Trump in 2016 was Donald Trump said a lot of things that were incredibly alarming.

05:27:44.960 Did he mean them? My problem with never Trump in 2020 and 2024 is that they essentially ignore

05:27:52.880 the fact that Donald Trump was in fact president. So when I was making my decision in 2016,

05:27:59.580 Donald Trump said things that very much worried me and I didn't know if he meant them.

05:28:03.740 By 2020, I knew that Donald Trump didn't mean them. That Donald Trump's worst rhetoric,

05:28:11.900 uh, whatever it is, uh, being funny, insult comic, hyperbolic, uh, aggressive negotiation,

05:28:21.660 sometimes going straight from the id and not, and not going through a filter,

05:28:25.360 but that actually doesn't define his behavior. He was actually a fairly moderate, uh, administrator

05:28:31.060 of the government. He, he, he was a fairly moderate CEO. I don't mean moderate in the sense of like

05:28:36.220 political, um, left, right moderate is in the middle. I mean, moderate, like he didn't do radical

05:28:41.840 things. He governed moderately. Uh, now he still says a lot of things that I don't like, but now I have

05:28:48.640 a box to put those in. I sort of understand what they are. I don't understand how people can ignore

05:28:53.560 the evidence of four years of the man being president and still have the fears that I had

05:28:58.300 in 2016. Well, he says, he's going to put somebody in front of a firing squad. Yes. And he's not.

05:29:03.840 I know for a fact. And that's a phony argument. He did not say that. Yeah. Okay. But even if he

05:29:09.480 had said it, it would have been incredible. You're right. You're a hundred percent right. And he still

05:29:12.280 wouldn't have meant it. Right. Whereas the left says all kinds of horrible things too. And they do act

05:29:17.580 on their worst rhetoric. Right. They actually put into practice when they say things like,

05:29:22.000 I think that a, a, uh, a person who was born with a uterus and breasts should be able to remove those

05:29:30.000 breasts as a teenager because that person is a man. They mean it. And then they go mutilate our

05:29:35.220 daughters. That's right. That's not. And I have, just like I had a record of Donald Trump being

05:29:39.320 president by which to measure now his words, I have the Obama and Biden administrations to judge,

05:29:45.860 to judge them. They mean it. I also think that the, the never Trumpers at this point,

05:29:52.140 like a lot of them are just leftists. And I think maybe they just always were.

05:29:56.500 Um, but they, it's not just that they're opposed to Trump. They've, they've, I mean,

05:30:01.200 this crew that we're talking about, they've, they've, they've, well, I'm thinking of them have

05:30:04.260 fully adopted leftist positions on like everything. Brett Stevens is whom I know well, and, and it's,

05:30:11.080 it's, we've debated and he's, it's painful, but he writes the terrific, uh, uh, columns for the New

05:30:18.540 York times as a conservative. Uh, and, uh, and then when it comes to Trump, it, it just, I, I feel that

05:30:26.400 this good man loses his mind. Yeah. He's not a leftist. Many such cases. Some of them are, I mean,

05:30:32.400 like Bill Kristol. Absolutely. Oh, the, any of them who say that they're voting for, for, for Biden or now,

05:30:38.540 now, now, now, Kamilaris, they become leftist. That that's, that's right. Did David French say

05:30:43.540 that he's voting for, for Biden? I don't know if David French said he's voting for Biden. I don't

05:30:48.240 think that it's a fair characterization of say Jonah or David French to say that they've become

05:30:52.840 leftists. No, Jonah, but Jonah, Jonah not. Huh? Yeah. David French said he was voting. Yeah. Jonah

05:30:58.360 has not endorsed him. He is, but here's the thing. David French is voting for the left and I have,

05:31:02.080 I have a major problem with it. That is not the same as saying that he is a leftist. What, what he is

05:31:07.900 is. Well, yeah, a lot of liberals vote left. What he is, is unmade by Donald Trump. Yeah. That's

05:31:13.460 right. It is. Yeah. He wrote, to save conservatism for myself, I'm voting for Harris. Yeah. That was

05:31:18.180 the. But, but Trump. Which is bizarre. Which is insane. That's. Yes. It's. I've, I've never seen

05:31:23.480 anything else like this. He, he makes people crazy and they cannot back down. I mean, Jonah at this

05:31:28.860 point, who a guy I really admired and liked that personally, I was considered him a pal, you know,

05:31:33.880 like, I think he just kind of. Hey guys, I'm going to interrupt this because we're going to

05:31:37.980 Mary Margaret Olihan at Trump HQ, where I think we're about to hear from the man himself. Mary

05:31:42.340 Margaret, what's happening? Hello. They're playing the Trump music. I think he's coming soon. It's

05:31:48.360 really exciting. They're playing the YMCA song. I don't know if you can see in the background,

05:31:53.700 the crowd is getting really hyped. It's very full. I'm holding my ear because it's so loud in here.

05:32:00.020 I can barely hear you guys. We already know that Trump and J.D. Vance are en route to the

05:32:06.620 election night party. And I think they're about to appear behind me. So this is very exciting.

05:32:12.500 Pretty much everyone in the room has said that they think that Trump has won, but obviously

05:32:16.040 we haven't called it yet. I don't know if you can see behind me though. You got Trump on the

05:32:20.760 screen dancing. He's doing his classic YMCA dance. He's recently added his signature golf swing

05:32:26.840 move. Classic Trump rally. A lot of fun. Well, New York Times is now saying a 93% chance of a Trump

05:32:36.080 victory. So it does seem like, you know, one hates to say the writings on the wall and get

05:32:42.420 cocky when there are still votes that need to be tabulated. But I wanted to come to you because I

05:32:47.280 saw Trump on the screen. I wasn't sure if he was actually on the stage. We'll definitely want to come

05:32:51.400 to you when the president walks out on the stage. What are you hearing about from people there?

05:32:55.960 What are the top issues that seem to have moved voters?

05:33:00.380 Well, you know, obviously the economy and immigration are the issues that we hear about the most.

05:33:04.820 But I actually just talked to Callie Means, who's one of the big proponents behind

05:33:09.080 Make America Healthy Again. And he's telling me that, you know, this is an issue that's really

05:33:13.960 motivating voters to the polls, especially suburban women. He thinks that's a whole hidden vote there

05:33:19.580 that Tom really tapped into. And also the trans issues are really pushing people to the polls.

05:33:25.880 And I'm told that's the 2024 sleeper issue, even with women. So, you know, the left talks about

05:33:31.340 how Trump has no chance with women, especially on abortion. But then we have these other two issues,

05:33:36.340 specifically about the health of American people, of kids, and then transgender issues,

05:33:41.460 of course, which we all know, and the Daily Wire has covered so well, pushing irreversible gender

05:33:46.260 transition procedures on kids, allowing men and women's sports. This is, you know, things that

05:33:51.100 Trump calls, quote unquote, crazy. And he's really tapping into what the American people are feeling.

05:33:56.520 You know, this is not normal. This is absolutely crazy. And I think that very phrasing has pushed

05:34:02.020 people to the polls. I mean, I was talking to Terry Schilling earlier. He's the president of the

05:34:06.480 American Principles Project. He told me they put $18 million behind ads, telling the American public

05:34:12.960 how radical these transgender messaging is. And he said it worked. He said he got so many people

05:34:18.580 to go out to the polls, specifically on trans messaging. So I, for one, you know, as a culture

05:34:23.300 reporter, I'm really interested in seeing the aftermath of this election and seeing the Democrats

05:34:27.760 who learned their lesson and understood that they pushed too far. This is too radical for Americans.

05:34:33.180 Americans do not want men in their daughters' bathrooms, and they don't want kids undergoing this

05:34:37.400 type of thing. So those are two big issues that I'm told that they're driving people to the polls,

05:34:42.180 and I believe it. You know, these are things that are top of the mind for Americans. And

05:34:46.360 I'm very excited to see, you know, like I was saying, the aftermath of this and to help understand

05:34:52.800 what went into these decisions for Americans and how we can learn from that in the future.

05:34:58.140 Mary Margaret, Fox is saying that Catholics may swing Michigan for Trump. Tell us why Catholics

05:35:02.820 might not... Why would Catholics not be open to a Kamala presidency?

05:35:06.140 Well, there's a lot of reasons Catholics wouldn't want Kamala for president. I mean,

05:35:11.780 mainly her support for abortion. She supports unrestricted abortion. And what that means is

05:35:16.420 abortion up until or after nine months. Democrats like to say that that's a fake thing. But

05:35:21.000 unfortunately, there's many, many states in the United States that allow abortion after birth,

05:35:26.200 which of course is infanticide. It's not actually abortion. So, oh, we got some applause in the

05:35:31.420 background here. This is about the Georgia results. Fox is saying Trump has 50.9 percent

05:35:40.600 compared to Kamala's 48.4 percent. Crowd really likes this. Very excited.

05:35:45.820 That's with 90... By the way, that's according to Decision Desk HQ. That's with 95 percent of the vote

05:35:50.980 in. We have Donald Trump carrying Arizona 50 to 48.

05:35:55.820 Wait, what did she just announce? Georgia? Georgia, yes. And Mary Margaret, also from Decision

05:36:02.240 Desk, we're now at 88 percent vote count in Pennsylvania. Donald Trump's lead holding 50.8

05:36:08.900 to 48.3. This is just... This is getting so, so exciting here. I mean, this is... I think we're

05:36:17.480 going to see the end of the election tonight, which is not something that any of us expected,

05:36:21.120 I don't think. I mean, I was planning on being here potentially until the end of the week, but we

05:36:25.560 might be able to go home way sooner than that. Yeah. It almost certainly won't happen because it

05:36:29.860 would mean that Andrew Klavan was correct. And that is such a rarity. I can't imagine it's actually

05:36:35.100 what happens. Mary Margaret, we're going to come back to you when... No, please. Go ahead.

05:36:42.660 Well, what you were saying about Harris and Michigan, you know, I just did want to point

05:36:47.920 out Gretchen Whitmer had a major faux pas there recently where she did that very weird TikTok

05:36:52.640 video where she pretended to be giving... It looked like she was giving the Eucharist to

05:36:57.300 a podcaster who was being very sexual about it. I think a lot of people might say that that

05:37:01.720 contributed to Michigan going... Michigan Catholics not going for Kamala in this election, but

05:37:08.780 that's another thing I guess we'll have to see. I'd love to see polling on that in the end

05:37:12.160 because it was a very weird move and I know it's something we talked about a lot at the

05:37:15.460 Daily Wire.

05:37:17.260 Mary Margaret, thank you. We're going to come back to you if the president takes the stage.

05:37:20.740 And right now, we're going to welcome back Ben Shapiro.

05:37:22.720 What's up, bitches?

05:37:23.660 Yeah.

05:37:24.220 How's it going?

05:37:25.580 It's too late. I've said it. It's too late. It's been said. I can't unsay that which has

05:37:29.960 been said. Time doesn't work that way. It's too late.

05:37:32.920 Can I say something about the trans?

05:37:34.700 You're being proved right about people blaming America. The left is already coming on.

05:37:37.660 There it is.

05:37:38.100 Yeah.

05:37:38.540 That's funny.

05:37:39.380 And it's good. You know what? More. Cry harder.

05:37:41.320 Yes. Cry harder.

05:37:41.980 Yes. Blame us all.

05:37:42.820 Cry harder. Right in here. Just do it.

05:37:45.560 Matt?

05:37:47.000 She mentioned the trans thing, and I just wanted to follow up on that because it is a really

05:37:51.480 interesting thing in this election. I noticed even watching football on Sundays that Trump

05:37:56.760 was running ads during football on the trans issue hard. I mean, you'd see these ads three

05:38:02.920 times in a football game hitting Trump on trans surgeries for immigrants and for convicted criminals

05:38:11.940 specifically. Those are the two big ones. And then men and women's sports. And then there was the tagline

05:38:17.180 at the end, you know, Kamala is for they, them, Trump is for you, which I thought was really clever.

05:38:21.900 Yes.

05:38:22.340 Yes.

05:38:23.020 So I do think that that issue has proved to be a major factor in this election. I think even more

05:38:29.880 than I think, I think, you know, in the midterms two years ago, I expected the trans issue to be,

05:38:36.820 you know, a bigger factor in the midterms. And it wasn't. I think it's almost like we were,

05:38:41.860 we were two years ahead. And I think there's something else that happened there, which was you

05:38:46.100 were right. It would have been, except basically politics is a crazy off. Okay. And the craziest

05:38:52.360 thing you can do is say that boys are girls or girls are boys, but it sort of offsets that when

05:38:57.240 you raid the loony bin for your candidates. You know, if you run Herschel Walker in Georgia,

05:39:01.040 it turns out that you can kind of offset some of the crazy by putting out your own crazy.

05:39:05.600 This time they're in a bunch of great, great candidates. Everybody knows Donald Trump already.

05:39:08.940 And so the issue could really kind of sing to the American voter. And it is the apotheosis of what

05:39:13.320 the left wants to do. I mean, you made that so clear in your wonderful movie. What is a woman

05:39:17.120 available right now at Daily Wire Plus. But because of that, I mean, I really do think that

05:39:21.600 that made a sea change in the way that people viewed the issue in the country. I really think

05:39:25.600 the documentary had a lot to do with that. I do too. Yeah. Worth pointing out the contrast between

05:39:30.480 the party we just saw with Mary Margaret down in Mar-a-Lago and the Harris party in DC,

05:39:36.160 the New York Times reporting the Harris campaign just shut off the sound on the TVs at her watch party

05:39:40.920 and replaced it with music after a guest on CNN said tonight, quote, felt more like 2016 than

05:39:46.680 2020. Yeah. So no more. They're playing Moana. They're playing the funeral march over there.

05:39:52.660 The New York Times pointed out there's still no sign of Kamala Harris at her rapidly thinning watch

05:39:56.380 party at Howard University, her alma mater. She could be speaking to a nearly deserted campus

05:40:00.280 if she does not appear soon. Wow. Well, yeah. World's smallest violin. It's really tragic. I mean,

05:40:06.060 it's definitely true about what is a woman. And since I am perhaps the only person here who's not

05:40:11.620 an employee of the Daily Wire, maybe it makes sense coming from me to say, I actually think that

05:40:15.880 am I racist could have significantly altered this election. It's possible that what you did in that

05:40:23.440 movie, which was simply to reveal what people think. I mean, you guys were talking earlier about

05:40:30.760 when Trump says these crazy things, you kind of gradually learn he doesn't really mean them.

05:40:35.920 And when the left says crazy things, they are really just coming, coming right out with it.

05:40:41.000 This, this race stuff that they've been pushing since Trump was in office the first time is so

05:40:48.180 noxious to the American sensibility that just reminding people of that, it had kind of faded since

05:40:55.820 2020. I think, you know, he had sort of lost that the immediacy of that when it was such a fervent

05:41:02.180 issue and bringing that back to the fore and reminding people that this is still what the

05:41:06.300 Democrat Party believes. They still think this country is fundamentally flawed in its conception

05:41:11.580 and particularly along this issue, which is very sensitive for Americans. I think that that might

05:41:17.000 have swung, you know, a significant number of voters. I mean, we can talk serious things,

05:41:21.140 but I need to experience the pain of those who have failed this evening. And thus joining us now

05:41:26.460 from Harris headquarters in Washington, DC is Spencer Lindquist. So Spencer, how, how's the mood been

05:41:33.200 there in Washington, DC? He asked with a smile. Well, you know, right behind me just a moment ago,

05:41:40.500 you would have seen people streaming out in waves. You're not seeing that as much anymore because most

05:41:45.160 people are already gone. Just a moment ago, the co-chair of the Kamala Harris campaign,

05:41:49.760 the co-chair of the campaign came out and said that Harris isn't going to be speaking tonight.

05:41:56.280 He said that there's still some votes left to be counted. Of course, we're getting pretty high up

05:42:00.740 there in a lot of these states with the reporting numbers. He said that she won't be speaking until

05:42:05.120 tomorrow night. So there's already a lot of people who left really when North Carolina was called,

05:42:11.020 it was a big inflection point. The mood had already soured quite a bit by then. And after that,

05:42:15.440 a lot of people started flooding out and now we're left with barely anybody here.

05:42:18.700 Well, I mean, I guess the real question is, will Beyonce be performing?

05:42:22.500 Because, you know, that obvious has been a big draw at these campaign events. It certainly is

05:42:26.080 not Kamala Harris. Probably people feel privileged that Kamala Harris actually didn't show up tonight,

05:42:30.080 which would have even brought down the mood further. So I guess nothing's happening there,

05:42:34.640 right? Cedric Richmond, who's the campaign co-chair, as you point out, has now confirmed that she

05:42:38.520 won't be speaking tonight. So what are people even doing there at this point? Playing tiddlywinks,

05:42:42.360 planning a riot? Like, what's happening?

05:42:43.860 You know, Beyonce wasn't here personally, but they were playing some Beyonce, they were playing

05:42:49.360 some music. And I will say, there was a moment between the news broadcasting and between the

05:42:54.100 music, where there was just a moment of silence for a second, where there was a gap between those

05:43:00.000 two programs. And I turned and looked at the crowd, dead silence. It was completely silent. So we

05:43:04.800 went in, we talked to a few people, and everybody was just on pins and needles. You know, the people who

05:43:09.480 were walking out, I think I was probably 0 for 8, or maybe 0 for 10, on trying to get people to talk

05:43:13.840 with me, because the people who were leaving were in a very somber mood. You could just see it on

05:43:18.020 their face and their body language. And inside, they really weren't feeling much better.

05:43:22.220 So Spencer, I hope that you're staying in a safe area of the city, because I assume that we can

05:43:26.180 expect riots in the near future. Obviously, Washington, D.C. was boarded up in preparation for

05:43:31.020 Trump supporters rioting in a city where there are literally no Trump supporters. So has there been any,

05:43:37.220 are they just so depressed that they don't even have the spirit to do that, which most motivates

05:43:41.400 them in burned down buildings? You know, we'll see. We did see some buildings being boarded up

05:43:48.460 earlier. That was yesterday. And we saw that really in downtown in the area surrounding the White House.

05:43:53.460 So we're yet to see exactly what's going down in the downtown area. But of course, as the night goes

05:43:59.740 on, and as we see exactly these results roll in, that might change. There might be some action

05:44:04.200 downtown. So if there is, of course, we'll be covering it.

05:44:06.440 Well, Spencer, I look forward to seeing you next dodging brick bats, as well as horrifyingly

05:44:11.900 peaceful fires over in Washington, D.C. Daily Wire's footprint at the Harris headquarters was

05:44:17.140 made possible by PDS Debt. Get a custom plan to become debt-free right now at pdsdebt.com

05:44:22.700 slash dailywire. Oh, this has become such an enjoyable evening. I mean, truly, just really,

05:44:28.340 really enjoyable in such a wide variety of ways. And there are new numbers, each more astonishing

05:44:33.640 than the last. All so wondrous. You know, it's like Christmas and I'm Jewish. And I got to say,

05:44:40.460 I'm looking at right now some of the latest numbers that are coming out, and they're just

05:44:46.080 wonderful. 61% of the electorate said that American support for Israel was not strong enough or about

05:44:51.020 right. So that makes perfect sense why Kamala Harris decided to pander to Hamas. It was a two-to-one

05:44:56.020 proposition, and she took the one. But why did she lose, they asked. And it's true on so many of

05:45:01.620 these proposals. Like, she took the minority position on every single, like, the rule of

05:45:05.600 politics is you find the things where it's like 80-20 and where you're on the side of the 80,

05:45:09.520 and then you focus on those issues. And she went out and found 20 and then got on the back of that.

05:45:17.380 I mean, it truly is an amazing thing. Meanwhile, as mentioned, the Harris co-chair has emerged. A man

05:45:23.520 speaking for a woman, just like a sexist would, Cedric Richmond, has emerged in order to explain that

05:45:28.540 she, in fact, will not be emerging tonight to say anything. He, I guess, are they going to still

05:45:33.780 swap in Joe Biden again, maybe? They've announced that her candidacy is over, and they are bringing

05:45:38.740 back the corpse of old Joe to try this once again. Again, I don't think anyone expected that at this

05:45:45.480 point, this early in the night, except for Andrew Klavan, who's honestly, his opinions can't be

05:45:50.400 taken that seriously, since he's been giving predictions like Nostradamus since the time of

05:45:55.520 Nostradamus. It's very difficult to take all that particularly seriously.

05:46:00.960 The only negative aspect of this whole evening is going to be this. I'm concerned also that we

05:46:06.860 don't, I'm concerned we don't have enough leftist tears tumblers on this table.

05:46:13.160 I do feel like there's a serious lack. Production team, get on it. We need clips. I need a steady

05:46:18.960 supply of clips of the weeping and the gnashing of the teeth and the sackcloth, as well as the ashes.

05:46:24.320 That's what I'm here for. That's what our people are here for. Give the people what they want is

05:46:29.880 the first rule of broadcasting. Get on it, production people. So the current vote count

05:46:35.040 right now in the state of Wisconsin, with 85% of the estimated vote total reported. Donald Trump

05:46:41.120 has 1.468 million votes. Conal Harris, 1.348 million votes. He's up 120,000 votes. He's expected

05:46:47.760 to win that state by 1.8 percentage points. Take a look over at Pennsylvania. You now have 92% of the

05:46:53.420 estimated vote total reported. Donald J. Trump, the 47th president of the United States. I'm just

05:46:59.400 going to say it. It's happening, folks. It's all happening. Donald J. Trump is at 3.3 million votes.

05:47:05.980 Kamala Harris at 3.08 million votes. He's up 220,000 votes with 92% of the vote counted.

05:47:12.820 Over in Michigan, things are even worse for Kamala Harris. Over in Michigan, they have 63% of the

05:47:18.620 estimated vote total reported. And she is already down 220,000 votes in the state of Michigan. He's

05:47:23.280 currently up over 6% on her in the state of Michigan. In Michigan? With 63% reporting in

05:47:29.260 Michigan. He's expected to win by about 2.5%. Have you done the New York Times needle update?

05:47:34.240 Would you like to hear it? I would really love it. Oh, it's very likely. It's very likely.

05:47:38.600 Almost pinned. It's almost pinned. It's like... It is over 95% chance of victory for Donald

05:47:45.320 Jamoglius-Trump at this point in time. Jaquan. Jaquan. Jaquan. Jaquan. Jaquan.

05:47:52.760 Anisha Trump. Yeah, yeah. It is wildly enjoyable. As you may have noticed, you've hit the punch-drunk

05:47:58.140 portion of this evening's program. It is indeed midnight. It is the witching hour here at Daily

05:48:03.740 Wire in Nashville. For those of you on the East Coast and up at 1 a.m. enjoying yourself.

05:48:07.260 Enjoying yourself. Just enjoy it. Just bask in the magic that is this evening because

05:48:11.440 indeed, there are very few nights like this. The birth of your children. The massive suffering

05:48:16.860 of your enemies. It's really quite grand. Speaking of the birth of your children,

05:48:21.860 I texted my wife and I said, I think I legitimately might cry if Trump wins. We had our first son

05:48:27.380 eight months ago and she said, you did not cry when your son was born eight months ago.

05:48:32.100 Well, he was born into an uncertain future.

05:48:33.740 It is. Yes. Also, to be fair, you worked harder with regard to this than you did with regard to

05:48:38.980 your son being born. You know what, that is true. There is that. Well, we are now being joined from

05:48:43.580 like an election headquarters where people are having a good time. Cassie Akiva joining us from

05:48:47.640 Dave McCormick's election party in Pennsylvania. Welcome back, Cassie. Are they preparing at this

05:48:52.160 point? It's a little nervous about opening the champagne. What's going on over there?

05:48:55.320 Thanks for having me. Right now, Dave McCormick just left the stage and came on with his wife.

05:49:02.400 They sort of declared victory. It wasn't exact. They were bragging about how they'll be in the

05:49:06.800 Senate, but he said that the night's not over, but he's extremely confident. They're celebrating here.

05:49:12.180 The party does not seem to be winding down, but things are looking very good for him. He's up by

05:49:16.940 100,000 votes right now. They're extremely confident. Dave McCormick is an excellent candidate. I was proud to

05:49:23.440 have campaigned with him last week in Pennsylvania. He's absolutely awesome. So, you know, the mood

05:49:28.640 in the room, obviously, Cassie must be great. Everybody is looking at these results. I assume

05:49:34.260 everybody's just going to stay there until somebody makes some sort of call, or is it just going to be

05:49:38.220 an all-nighter for everybody? It might be an all-nighter for us tonight, but we're going to be

05:49:44.460 here covering it. But McCormick, I don't think he's going to bed right now, but he's definitely having

05:49:49.000 fun. He's mingling with people. He's really good at that. We were on the campaign trail with him,

05:49:53.360 and he's really having a good night. And it's worth mentioning, he was down 10 points in the

05:49:57.820 polls this summer. This is a huge victory for him. He really turned it around. He said that he has the

05:50:03.180 best campaign staff in the country. I'm starting to think he's right with that big victory there.

05:50:07.860 I mean, it is worth pointing out here. Cassie, as you point out, early on in this race, if you

05:50:13.340 remember in Pennsylvania, Donald Trump kind of didn't know what to do with Kamala when she first was

05:50:17.200 swapped in. And it was McCormick's campaign that was putting out excellent ads about Kamala Harris,

05:50:21.920 like right off the top. This has been an incredibly professional race from Dave McCormick,

05:50:26.100 again, demonstrating that when you run good candidates in swing states, you can indeed win.

05:50:31.980 Cassie, you've dealt with Dave. He is a pro.

05:50:36.280 Yeah, Dave has been really great with getting his family involved. We saw his wife talking,

05:50:40.940 his brother. He has six daughters, so he really knows how to speak to women. I think that's really

05:50:45.240 helped him here in Pennsylvania. He's been bringing out the crowds. He's really,

05:50:48.920 he really campaigned super hard. And even his election night party here, it is full. It is

05:50:53.320 rowdy. People are not leaving. It is getting late. And I think he's going to have a good day

05:50:57.940 tomorrow as well. Well, Cassie Akiva over at the McCormick headquarters in Pennsylvania.

05:51:02.500 I'm sure we'll be back with you sometime this evening, but things are looking really great.

05:51:06.580 Thanks for your hard work on the ground over there. Thanks so much. Well, folks, the Senate

05:51:12.660 results continue to pour in. In Michigan, Mike Rogers has opened up a five-point lead on Alyssa Slotkin

05:51:17.720 in Michigan, 60% or so of the vote reporting. Mike Rogers is currently up by 160,000 votes

05:51:23.560 on Alyssa Slotkin in Michigan. Now, I mean, I got to say. And the AP finally called Georgia.

05:51:30.760 I know. They're so far behind. See, the internet for the win gang. So at this point, I would like

05:51:36.160 to point out the next swing state that no one's talking about. Okay, so Nevada is now reporting

05:51:40.960 at this point. Nevada has, you know, approximately how much of the vote in? 68% of the vote in.

05:51:48.000 Donald Trump is currently up 5,148 in Nevada. So Nevada has always been perceived as sort of a

05:51:53.020 democratic machine state. Yeah. It'll be interesting to see if he flips Nevada. If he flips Nevada,

05:51:58.580 obviously that takes him, you know, my prediction minus New Hampshire, just going to put that out

05:52:02.900 there. So that is a good number. Am I wrong in thinking that if he now takes Michigan and

05:52:08.160 Wisconsin, he doesn't need Pennsylvania? Yeah, if he takes any one of them. If he takes

05:52:11.500 Wisconsin. If he takes Wisconsin, it's over. If he takes Michigan, it's over. If he takes

05:52:14.620 Pennsylvania, it's over. It's over. Okay, like it's cooked. It's done. He's the 47th president

05:52:19.200 of the United States. Can we, can we, I'm not, I have not, I have not, I have not been given

05:52:23.500 the authority by the polling gods to declare victory in the election. I have Mayflower cigars.

05:52:29.180 He won. He's the 47th president of the United States. There will be no, there will be no,

05:52:32.540 there will be no calling it. I'm sorry. Yeah. No, no, I'm, I'm informal. It's an informal call.

05:52:38.160 It is a, it is a description of reality. The reality and let it sink in, just like Elon Musk

05:52:43.200 says, let it sink in. I'm going to take the wrapper off my Mayflower cigar right now, just

05:52:49.380 to do that. Some preparatory. A little preparatory work here. You might, you could sniff it. You

05:52:54.920 could smell. I'm going all the way to cutting it. Oh, wow. Decision does says 91% is in in

05:53:00.420 Pennsylvania. Yeah. No, it's, it's, it's, it's actually, yeah. And, and New York Times has

05:53:04.760 like 93% in and, uh, and his lead is indeed holding by, by the way, hilariously enough,

05:53:10.460 there is a, an outside shot, an outside shot. Then the next most competitive state after Nevada

05:53:16.160 is wait for it, wait for it, wait for it. Minnesota in Minnesota, that would be in Minnesota. Oh,

05:53:21.480 that would be so great. Right. It's hilarious. In Minnesota, 65% of the vote is in Kamala Harris,

05:53:27.000 1.07 million votes. Donald Trump, 1.02 million votes. He's only down 50,000 votes in Minnesota.

05:53:34.500 The deliciousness of Donald Trump somehow sneaking Minnesota away from the magic of Tim Walls

05:53:40.120 would just be so entertaining. It would be like running a pick six. It would almost be

05:53:44.620 like running a pick six. I once had a conversation with Ed Rollins. His wrists could not get any limber

05:53:49.540 if that were to happen. The face. I once had a conversation with Ed Rollins who ran Reagan 84,

05:53:54.160 and he said, I said, wow, 49 states that you won. He said, well, we actually won Minnesota too,

05:53:59.740 but we didn't want to look greedy, so we didn't sue about it. But they, he, he felt that they got

05:54:04.000 it too. And if, if this woman decided to overlook Josh Shapiro because she didn't want to pick a Jew

05:54:11.280 and then she picks this guy in a, in a bright blue state she should be totally fine with. Oh man.

05:54:18.120 If she loses that state. Oh, the one state Mondale won. It would just be so great. Wow.

05:54:23.460 Joining us right now is our friend Harmeet Dillon from the Dillon Law Group coming to us from

05:54:27.900 Arizona. Harmeet, welcome back. Yeah. Thanks for having me. So you've been watching these results

05:54:35.060 come in just as we have. You, you have a slightly different set of responsibilities. Our responsibilities

05:54:39.560 are to start eyeing the booze and cutting the cigars. You still have to be geared up for any possible

05:54:45.480 fights ahead. How are you feeling this evening? Yeah, no, we feel good. We had, uh, attorneys still

05:54:52.220 working in the war room. Even as we speak right now, we're actually doing the job of picking up all

05:54:57.700 the ballot returns and receipts, if you will, and closing down all the polling places tonight.

05:55:03.580 And so work is still going on, but, uh, there's also a couple of bottles in the war room and people

05:55:09.720 have been toasting a little bit and enjoying that as well. So, um, so, so yeah, we feel great about the

05:55:17.040 effort on the ground here in Arizona and the results both. And so, you know, it really is a

05:55:22.480 model. It's really exciting as a almost lifelong Republican volunteer to see how it wasn't like

05:55:29.620 this two years ago. It was a pretty sad mood. Um, and we have learned a lot of lessons since that

05:55:34.700 time. And so we are teachable, so that's good news. Um, and it's just like, you know, it's so exciting

05:55:42.620 to see some of these States that had been absolutely written off by the pundits. And I just, uh, you

05:55:47.920 know, put on X a little while ago that it, it feels almost like a little naughty to be watching MSNBC

05:55:53.260 right now, but I'm feeling this, the schadenfreude is too much. I'm not used to feeling that way,

05:56:01.140 you know, so no, it's excellent. And so that, that said, I have a lot of friends with close races in

05:56:06.900 California. We're not going to know the results of those for a while and Pennsylvania and people

05:56:12.600 are nervous. I feel pretty good about Arizona for Trump, but there are a lot of close congressional

05:56:17.380 and ledge, ledge races and Supreme court and all that, that aren't going to get decided yet. So

05:56:21.560 how, how long is it going to take us to hear results out of Arizona?

05:56:27.660 Arizona, it can take two weeks from Maricopa County, which is by far the largest bulk of the

05:56:33.820 ballots, but I think we'll have a pretty good idea of those final numbers in the coming days. I don't

05:56:38.620 think it's going to take the full two weeks to get the contours of legislative races. I think we are

05:56:43.860 going to be as much as four points up for president Trump at the end of the day. And, um, you know, if

05:56:49.800 we're that far ahead at the end of the day, it bodes well for some of the people who are a couple of

05:56:54.640 points behind him. So, uh, fingers crossed on that, but that's why the work that our chair here in

05:57:01.160 Arizona has done of having a super organized effort and having a closing down of every single

05:57:06.780 polling place. We have the numbers of every single number of ballots voted early, turned in on

05:57:11.880 election day, et cetera, in every single one of these polling places. And then our number cruncher

05:57:16.880 geeks sit down and do the math. And there was like some numbers missing. We will go and hunt and track

05:57:21.700 those down. And if we don't agree, there'll be litigation. So that's why there've been lawyers

05:57:25.680 involved in this effort from the beginning. And in Arizona, by the way, there's an automatic recount

05:57:31.160 statute. So if there's any race within half a point of the number of voters who voted, there'll be an

05:57:35.960 automatic recount and a bunch of lawyers descending to do that. I suspect there will be some races in that

05:57:40.880 margin. Why does Maricopa take so long when Florida takes two hours to do the entire state?

05:57:48.380 Well, states have different rules as to whether and how they tabulate ballots. Um, and in Maricopa

05:57:55.060 County as well, you have to understand that they've gone from the more traditional form of voting to

05:58:00.920 a large number of early ballots. And that's been a kind of a difference over the years. The statute

05:58:07.560 allows them this much time to do it. And the current recorder of Maricopa County is, you know,

05:58:16.120 a fairly bitter person who's lost his election for a quarter in the summer. And so he doesn't,

05:58:22.380 he's just be mild. He does not, he's not a Trump supporter. And so he's in no hurry to, uh,

05:58:27.800 declare victory for president Trump here. Um, you know, this guy is like, these guys are out there

05:58:33.200 talking about bulletproof vests. They're snipers on the roof of the counting facility in Maricopa

05:58:40.300 County in case, you know, we Trump supporters get out of hand, they can shoot us. Um, so that's the,

05:58:46.020 that's the mood here of the election officials. So, you know, they're pretty, those of them who don't

05:58:50.500 like Trump are not thrilled tonight. Uh, so, you know, I think that is why, but if we hold on to

05:58:57.620 the legislature here and eventually we get the governor's race back, you can change some of

05:59:01.760 those things. And I think Congress can change some of these things. Congress could pass a law

05:59:06.100 that conditions federal funding for elections on some basic minimum standards of counting,

05:59:12.000 of cleaning up the, uh, polls of so many of these other things. So I think that we need to really

05:59:17.420 have that conversation. Harmeet, thank you very much for spending some time with us tonight.

05:59:22.260 Uh, good luck to you over the next couple of weeks in making sure that Arizona comes together

05:59:26.120 and the good work you're doing in all the other states as well.

05:59:29.260 Meanwhile, I do have to point out, this is, um, a clip of Cedric Richmond, the co-chair of

05:59:35.580 Harris headquarters, telling everybody, go home and just enjoy, just enjoy a little bit. Enjoy it.

05:59:42.740 Unbelievable. Can't hear it. Guys, we need audio. I can't enjoy it. Can't hear it, you guys.

06:00:00.700 Well, okay. Well, you can view it. The facial expressions are worth it. Yeah, the facial expressions

06:00:04.780 are worthwhile. I am getting flashbacks to 2016. You remember at the Javits Center,

06:00:10.260 Hillary had her big election party. And the, my favorite line from, uh, poor Mr. Podesta,

06:00:15.860 he comes out, he's the, you know, head of her campaign and he says, Hey, thank you all so much

06:00:20.020 for showing up for Hillary. She's always shown up for you. Except right now.

06:00:26.260 Very moment. We're also watching people walk into, uh, the, the party down in West Palm beach,

06:00:33.460 the, for at Trump HQ. We just saw our friend and actor, John Voight walk through the room. I think

06:00:39.380 we saw Tucker Carlson walk into the room. So definitely the contingent that was at Mar-a-Lago

06:00:43.760 are all starting to make their way to, uh, the convention center in anticipation of Donald Trump

06:00:49.680 making some sort of appearance here, which seems to be more or less imminent. And as that happens,

06:00:56.860 you're just also watching the electoral vote totals creep up right now. Decision Desk HQ has Donald

06:01:03.920 Trump at 200 and I'm getting a little blind this late, is that 251 electoral votes to Kamala Harris

06:01:10.260 is 213. Uh, it's getting very hard to imagine how Kamala could turn, could turn this. Well,

06:01:17.080 meanwhile, that needle, that magical, magical needle that we've all enjoyed so much is over 95% chance

06:01:22.280 of victory right now. Their electoral college estimate puts Donald Trump at 306 electoral votes.

06:01:28.940 Nate Cohen says another hour has gone by. The story is still the same. Trump favored in Pennsylvania,

06:01:32.840 Michigan, Wisconsin. This, this election is, well, it, I mean, they're treating it like it's done.

06:01:40.000 Wow. I love the New York times. I take back everything that I ever said about them. It's,

06:01:44.320 it is, it is quite, it is quite enjoyable for certain that is for a certain. And, um,

06:01:50.900 do we have Brent Buchanan available? Is that a thing that I was told that that was a thing that

06:01:55.100 we were going to do? Yes. Are we right now? Okay. So Brent, Brent, hold on. Wait, let's do this

06:02:01.240 properly. So give me the M&Ms. I promised an M&M joke. Thank you. I'm going to need that. So,

06:02:06.880 all right, Brent, Brent, I have a different candy now. And I'm going to, and I warned you,

06:02:11.540 you were forewarned. I need an update from Pennsylvania as I, as I glory in this, in this treat.

06:02:17.340 Okay. So really Mars Wrigley has failed us. M&Ms are made in Hershey, Pennsylvania.

06:02:23.980 Done. Performing exactly like it did last time. They did not show up for Trump any more than in

06:02:30.140 2020. Okay. Hold on. That was not a good, can I try it, Ben? Can you do it? Can you pitch me on

06:02:35.100 the M&M thing? Okay. So Michael Knowles, I'm eating M&Ms right now and they're delicious. Please give me

06:02:40.440 the Pennsylvania data that is linked in some way to this. Oh, sure. She's, she's choking. How?

06:02:46.740 Wow. Everybody's joking. Now the clock's run out. Time's up. Over. Blau. Snap back to reality. Oh,

06:02:52.740 there goes gravity. Cormick's going to win. That's basically my attitude. Michael, that was truly,

06:03:00.100 it's truly almost worth the price of having paid you for 10 years. Absolutely not. Brent,

06:03:04.200 I'm going to go back to you since you have data. So what's the story in Pennsylvania? Why are we

06:03:08.040 waiting to declare it? How long do we have to stay up with this? What's the story?

06:03:11.360 I have no clue why we're waiting. Right now, Philly, the county is at 86% in. It's underperforming

06:03:18.640 by six points. Oh, wow. And a flat turnout. So this goes back to what we've been talking about.

06:03:24.960 Democrat counties are turning out at 2020 levels. Republican counties are turning out above 2020

06:03:29.560 levels. Here's one for you. A lot of this goes back to the fact, and we've been highlighting this,

06:03:35.080 the youth vote is shrinking in the margin for Democrats. In our last national poll, we had

06:03:40.700 Harris only winning the under 30 vote by eight points. If we'd have broken that down even younger,

06:03:45.620 I guarantee Trump would have been in the lead if you would say 18 to 22. So Center County,

06:03:52.580 Pennsylvania, which is the home of Pennsylvania State University, Biden won it by four in 2020.

06:03:59.280 Trump is currently up by four. So I have absolutely no clue why we're all sitting.

06:04:05.060 I mean, it's fun. I get it. It's really fun. I really think all these smart people. And then

06:04:09.140 they also invited me. We can definitely win back the college educated vote with what you all have

06:04:13.580 talked about tonight. But Pennsylvania, absolutely no clue why they have not called it.

06:04:17.520 Okay. In Michigan, the numbers are looking stunningly good for President Trump this early.

06:04:21.520 Now, it's a lot earlier in Michigan. They've only counted something like, I don't know,

06:04:24.900 67% vote, two thirds of the vote. But Trump's up like 6% in that vote right now. I assume it's

06:04:30.840 going to come down. I assume it'll be a little bit closer. But what that does mean is that Mike

06:04:34.160 Rogers, who is widely expected to be trailing in that Senate race, is running really strong

06:04:38.220 against Alyssa Slotkin right now. And if you had to put money on it, you say Republicans maybe get

06:04:42.160 55 Senate seats out of this thing. They could potentially. And it's one of the really interesting

06:04:45.980 stories of this cycle where for pretty much all the Senate races, the Republican Senate candidate

06:04:51.280 was polling four, five, six, seven points behind Donald Trump in the margin. And it really looks like

06:04:58.140 as people went to go vote, they looked at the blue and the red jersey and said,

06:05:01.540 I have to pick one. And I'm going to pick the red jersey across the board,

06:05:05.060 especially in these Rust Belt states. So Dave Sunday, the Republican nominee for Attorney General

06:05:11.080 in Pennsylvania, declared the winner there. I think that is a harbinger of what we're going to see

06:05:16.860 also coming out of Pennsylvania. But if you look specifically at Michigan, so there's a county,

06:05:21.220 Oakland County outside of Detroit, suburban area. Biden won it by 14. It is almost fully reported.

06:05:27.560 And currently Harris is only up by 10. So not only are these returns in Michigan flat on turnout from

06:05:34.440 these Democrat-leaning counties, she's not even getting the margin that Biden was getting. So this

06:05:38.560 kind of goes back to what we were talking about with the union vote and how she was definitely going

06:05:42.340 to underperform Uncle Joe with the union vote. Another county that we talked about earlier,

06:05:47.620 Eaton, which Biden won by, sorry, Biden won by one in 2020. Trump won it by five. And that was before

06:05:57.640 we were like 80 percent reporting when we were talking about Eaton a couple hours ago. It's fully

06:06:03.260 reported and it still is Trump plus five. Montcalm County, which I didn't know was a thing before

06:06:09.080 tonight. Trump plus 38 in 2020. Now Trump plus 39 and a 7 percent increase in turnout. So it keeps

06:06:15.900 going back to the story. Democrats flat at 20, Republicans overperforming 20. And this is how

06:06:21.280 we're getting the map of potentially a Trump sweep of every single swing state. Wow. It is amazing,

06:06:27.400 amazing stuff. And I do have Mike and Ix on the table, so prepare yourself for that one, Brent.

06:06:31.660 Next we come to you. Our election map coverage this evening is made possible by our sponsors over at

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06:06:39.980 less of this than I am right now. But you know what? Screw it. Can we please take the,

06:06:43.700 I want everybody at home to see what's happening right now at Trump HQ where we've seen just about

06:06:50.560 everyone. I believe I just saw RFK Jr. coming in. The crowd, even without audio, you can just tell

06:06:55.540 the crowd is ecstatic. And we expect to hear from Donald Trump imminently. At any moment we could be

06:07:02.280 going to Donald Trump coming out to make, we don't know. By the way, Fox just called Pennsylvania for

06:07:06.940 Trump. Let's go, baby. Let's go. Over. Over. We are, I mean, I think it's not impossible that you

06:07:18.640 even get a concession phone call tonight. Okay, so Donald Trump's new name is the glass ceiling.

06:07:25.580 Because Donald Trump has not just stopped one, but two women from becoming the first female president

06:07:31.580 of the United States. And he now has the opportunity to do the funniest thing ever. And at the very end

06:07:35.980 of his presidency, declare himself female and become the first female president of the United

06:07:40.680 States. Even the New York Times has taken Pennsylvania to very likely Trump. Fox News just

06:07:46.980 called it. It's over, gang. It's over. Fox News calls Pennsylvania. This election is done. It's toast.

06:07:53.840 You can put it in the fridge. It's finished. Donald Trump. Donald Trump is your 47th president of the

06:07:58.960 United States. The greatest political comeback in American history. Far none. Yeah. No doubts

06:08:04.700 about it. Un-effing believable. Unbelievable. And to you, the American people, put the work in.

06:08:11.860 Yes. Yeah. We love it. The amount of work that people put into this election cycle, particularly

06:08:15.820 me, but others. It doesn't work. It's just, it's incredible. I mean, really, like it's, I mean,

06:08:21.660 the American, like the amount of work, I mean, the number of people that we all personally know who

06:08:25.220 were like door knocking and going out and doing the hard work and making the connections,

06:08:29.880 putting aside whatever differences are out there. I mean, this is a huge victory,

06:08:33.320 a huge victory against a woke left that needed to take it directly in the teeth.

06:08:37.480 This is just huge, just enormous. This is the greatest comeback without dispute

06:08:42.960 in the history of American politics. Of course. Of course. Well, what exactly? How is he going to

06:08:48.940 govern the country from prison? That's the thing from Elba, St. Helen. There are, there are actual

06:08:54.060 constitutional crises looming because the left took, they took the joke so far.

06:09:01.220 They really took a new Jeremy level. Wow. That's right. They gave me a run for my mind.

06:09:06.800 By the way, DDHQ has called the elections. Donald Trump is your 47th president of the

06:09:11.200 United States. Yes. There it is. Yes. Woo. Damn. All right. So, how are y'all feeling? Feeling

06:09:19.360 pretty good out here? Yes. I was planning on being here every day for like a week because I thought

06:09:27.280 this was going to get dragged out and out and out. And Donald John Trump, despite the constant

06:09:34.040 negative press, has covfefed. By what time? By the way, Marsha Blackburn was 20 minutes off.

06:09:40.900 23 minutes off. She said we would be at 270 by midnight central time.

06:09:45.100 Well, the world is about to change in a much better way, in a much, much, much better way from

06:09:51.100 foreign policy, domestic policy, to the social fabric of the country. And now it's time for

06:09:55.760 those that Donald John Trump has defeated to actually take seriously the possibility that

06:10:00.160 they got it all wrong. Wow. That they got it all wrong. It's time to rethink some things about the

06:10:04.980 American people and about the country they seem to say that they ought to represent. It is also time

06:10:10.120 for me to have a drink. I think I've- Yeah. You've heard it. And Dennis Prager left early.

06:10:15.260 No! Oh, boy. Now we have to have his drink. I mean, we must. You know, the nice thing about

06:10:23.300 the color orange is that it encompasses so many colors. It's not just white. It's not just black.

06:10:28.160 It's really a blending of all the time. It's not just brown. It's a blended family. It's

06:10:31.300 like America. It's a rainbow coming together. It's like Obama said. We're not red America.

06:10:34.580 America. We're not white. We're all orange in America. Today we're all orange. That's right.

06:10:41.440 On, be, leave, awful. This company began about, what, nine years ago? Really, our first election

06:10:46.680 was eight years ago. And we were all sitting around celebrating Donald Trump's victory over

06:10:51.540 the would-be first woman president. And nothing whatsoever has changed. We're doing exactly the

06:10:58.140 same thing. Wow. Oh, Ben, you're drinking. Yeah. I never do this, but dude. I mean, come on.

06:11:04.140 It's been a long road. United States of America. We're here to the United States of America.

06:11:07.960 And number 47. And number 47. Donald Trump. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

06:11:15.880 We're going to make our country better than it ever has been. When I said that, many people

06:11:21.960 have told me that God spared my life for a reason. And that reason was to save our country

06:11:35.040 and to restore America to greatness. And now we are going to fulfill that mission together.

06:11:41.700 We're going to fulfill that mission. The task before us will not be easy, but I will bring

06:11:47.800 every ounce of energy, spirit, and fight that I have in my soul to the job that you've entrusted

06:11:57.320 to me. This is a great job. There is no job like this. This is the most important job in

06:12:03.400 the world. Just as I did in my first term, we had a great first term, a great, great first

06:12:10.400 term. I will govern by a simple motto, promises made, promises kept. We're going to keep our

06:12:17.620 promises. Nothing will stop me from keeping my word to you, the people. We will make America

06:12:25.260 safe, strong, prosperous, powerful, and free again. And I'm asking every citizen all across

06:12:31.080 our land to join me in this noble and righteous endeavor. That's what it is. It's time to put

06:12:37.500 the divisions of the past four years behind us. It's time to unite. And we're going to try.

06:12:44.300 We're going to try. We have to try. And it's going to happen. Success will bring us together.

06:12:49.740 I've seen that. I've seen that. I saw that in the first term when we became more and more

06:12:56.120 successful. People started coming together. Success is going to bring us together. And

06:13:03.100 we are going to start by all putting America first. We have to put our country first for

06:13:09.100 at least a period of time. We have to fix it because together we can truly make America

06:13:14.760 great again for all Americans. So I want to just tell you what a great honor this is. I

06:13:21.020 want to thank you. I will not let you down. America's future will be bigger, better, bolder,

06:13:26.660 richer, safer, and stronger than it has ever been before. God bless you and God bless America.

06:13:33.900 Thank you very much. That's Donald Trump, the 47th president of the United States. Thanks

06:13:44.400 for spending election night with us. We'll see you next time.

The Matt Walsh Show - November 06, 2024

Election Night 2024 with The Daily Wire

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