The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 10 - They Want Affirmation, Not Just Tolerance

00:00:00.000 All right, everybody, thanks for watching or listening. If you're listening to the podcast

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00:00:38.660 All right. So for all the adults, Senator Cory Booker last week provided us with, I think,

00:00:44.260 a very helpful but also disturbing illustration of something. He was at Mike Pompeo's confirmation

00:00:52.180 hearing. Mike Pompeo is President Trump's nominee for secretary of state. And Cory Booker, when it

00:01:00.860 was his turn to ask questions, he decided to ask Pompeo about his views on sodomy. So not just gay

00:01:10.880 marriage. OK, and that would also be irrelevant to the job. But no, this wasn't a discussion of,

00:01:17.120 well, what's your opinion on laws pertaining to gay marriage? Or do you think the state should

00:01:21.800 recognize gay marriages? Do you think the state should be involved in marriage at all?

00:01:28.600 All of that stuff would also be irrelevant. But you know that the left Democrats are going to bring

00:01:33.740 that up. Booker took it a step further. And he put gay marriage aside. He said he wanted to know,

00:01:40.640 this was his phrase, what's your opinion on gay sex? He asked him, in your opinion, is gay sex a

00:01:47.420 perversion? And Pompeo wasn't quick enough in responding, I guess. So Booker asked him two more

00:01:53.040 times. In total, three times he brought up gay sex to Mike Pompeo at a confirmation hearing for

00:02:02.200 secretary of state. Three times he shouted at him about gay sex. Now, first of all, this is obviously

00:02:10.240 just a very thinly veiled, very, very thinly veiled attack on Christianity, because everyone knows

00:02:16.960 that any serious Christian, any devout Christian who's familiar with his faith and has read the

00:02:21.200 Bible is obviously going to believe that sodomy is perversion, because it says it right there in

00:02:26.000 the Bible multiple times, Old Testament and New Testament. There's no way around it. This is,

00:02:31.280 it's just, it's right there. There is no other acceptable answer. If you are familiar at all

00:02:40.020 about what your faith teaches, sodomy is definitely listed as not just a sin, by the way, but sodomy is

00:02:49.680 in the Bible multiple times across the Old and New Testaments. It is singled out as a particularly

00:02:57.920 dire and grave sin. In fact, there are only four sins in Scripture that are listed as sins that cry out

00:03:07.420 to heaven for vengeance. Only four times does that phrase appear of a sin crying out to God

00:03:13.180 for divine retribution. And sodomy is one of those sins. Okay, so that's how serious God takes it.

00:03:27.320 And that phrase appears in Genesis, which means that this is not just a belief held by Christianity,

00:03:33.860 but in fact, by all the Abrahamic religions, Judaism, Islam as well. But does anyone seriously

00:03:43.340 believe that Cory Booker or any other Democrat would berate a Muslim about this? A Muslim is going

00:03:49.500 to feel exactly the same way. He may even feel it stronger. Yet that's not going to come up with a

00:03:55.260 Muslim only with a Christian because this is anti-Christian. This is about keeping Christians

00:03:58.980 out of public office. That's pretty clear. But anyone who watched the confirmation hearing,

00:04:08.460 you know, they probably watched it and they were hoping to hear a discussion about subjects related

00:04:14.380 to American diplomacy and national security. Cory Booker just wanted to talk about sex positions.

00:04:21.580 And for that reason, even aside from the anti-Christian angle, for that reason, this whole scene was a

00:04:29.380 perfect, also bizarre and gross illustration of what the modern Democrat Party and modern liberalism has

00:04:35.540 become. And I say that because the left in America is obsessed with sex and obsessed with getting

00:04:46.820 everyone's approval of their sexual exploits. It always comes back to sex for them. Have you noticed

00:04:54.020 that? Everything comes back to sex. It always ends up back there. And not just with sex generally, but with

00:05:02.200 I need you to approve of these specific things I do in the bedroom. Not just tolerate, approve, celebrate,

00:05:13.740 affirm. Everything goes back to that. It's all about sex. Everything's about sex. And this is where godless

00:05:21.160 pagan ideologies always leave. Pagan societies are debauched societies for a reason. You think about

00:05:27.780 the ancient pagan civilizations where you go to the pagan temple and there would be orgies and

00:05:32.280 prostitution where sex is treated as this kind of sacred right. And sex is also a sacred right to the

00:05:39.000 modern pagan, the modern idol worshiper, the modern self-worshipper, the modern leftist,

00:05:43.740 and it's a sacred right because sex is to them the ultimate pleasure-seeking act. It is the ultimate

00:05:50.880 act of finding pleasure, you know, not just in life, but using another. And this, again, this is from the

00:06:04.500 godless secular perspective. With sex, you are using another person and kind of dominating them

00:06:11.820 and using them for your own pleasure. You have turned a whole other human being into a tool

00:06:19.240 for your pleasure. And so that's why it's the ultimate, because pleasure is the ultimate.

00:06:27.740 Now, to the Christian, sex is also sacred, but for a different reason. Because it bonds together

00:06:36.680 husband and wife and because it opens up the potential for the creation of human life. Sex is

00:06:43.860 something that can create another human being. And for that reason, it is so important. There's this

00:06:51.880 dumb stereotype that Christians are afraid of sex. Couldn't be further from the truth. Christianity

00:06:57.320 has this deep respect for sex. And it wants to protect it. If you go to an art museum

00:07:08.500 and you see a great piece of art, why is there security around it? Why would you put armed guards,

00:07:22.440 a security, a fence, you know, why would you put that around a piece of art? Is it because you're

00:07:26.600 afraid of the art? You're afraid the art's going to come to life and attack people? No. It's because

00:07:32.980 the art is a beautiful thing and you respect it. That's why you protect it.

00:07:38.500 Why would someone go and deface art? Why would they go spray, you know, graffiti all over the

00:07:46.140 Mona Lisa? Why would they do that? Is it because they really appreciate art and they think art is

00:07:50.040 so fun? No, it's because they don't respect it. They have no respect for it. They don't see its

00:07:56.100 inherent beauty and its inherent value and worth. So they deface it and they defile it and they make

00:08:02.140 it something cheap and worthless. In Christianity, we, in the church, we talk about consummating a

00:08:10.700 marriage and everyone knows consummating a marriage is what happens when the married couple goes back

00:08:15.140 to their room after the wedding and they have sex. That's consummating the marriage. What does

00:08:20.000 consummation mean? Consummation means completion. It means bringing something to completion. So that's

00:08:24.780 really significant. Think about what that means. We say that a marriage is consummated through sex

00:08:30.020 in Christianity. That means that the marital covenant itself is brought to completion when

00:08:39.640 the husband and wife come together intimately. When the husband and wife have sex, that is the

00:08:46.780 completion of the marital covenant. That's what kind of, that's sort of like the lock that seals it.

00:08:56.020 And now it is inseparable. It's for life. So that's how Christianity treats sex. Not at all something to be

00:09:04.900 afraid of, but something to, something to, uh, respect and to, and to reserve for this holy setting

00:09:18.640 between husband and wife. In the godless secular world, sex is just pleasure. They've emptied it of

00:09:27.920 all meaning, meaning they've defiled it. They've sprayed graffiti on it. They've defaced it. They've taken all

00:09:33.680 of value and worth out of it. And so now sex, they've just boiled it down to the one aspect,

00:09:39.760 just the physical sensation. So sex is just pleasure and nothing else. And, uh, and it's no

00:09:45.260 other point. So sex is like, it's, it's similar to, um, playing a video game, playing a sport,

00:09:50.480 watching TV is just a little bit more pleasurable than those things, but it's no more significant than

00:09:55.060 that. And pleasure is the point of life. Sex is the best way to get pleasure. Therefore sex is the

00:09:59.840 point of life. And that's why they're obsessed with it. But it's also why, if we're going to talk

00:10:03.600 about who's afraid of sex, it's not the Christians, it's them. They're afraid of what sex really is.

00:10:10.760 And that's why we talk about, you know, um, that's why they, they, that's why we need to erect

00:10:17.360 these barriers and everything else. And, um, you know, physical, actual physical barriers that are

00:10:25.560 used in the sexual act. It's because they're afraid of sex, not the Christians.

00:10:30.240 And that's why they demand that we affirm their sexual habits, not tolerate, but affirm.

00:10:43.900 And now they still say they want us to mind our own business and, you know, it's none of our

00:10:48.900 business, but this isn't what you do. If you want someone to, to, to, to mind their own business,

00:10:53.840 if you don't want people talking about your sex life, you don't bring it up at a confirmation

00:10:59.920 hearing. You don't march through the street, announcing it to everybody. That's not what

00:11:07.700 you do when you want people to mind their own business. And this is what, you know, what,

00:11:10.080 this is the thing maybe in life that frustrates me more than anything else is intellectual

00:11:14.380 dishonesty. Intellectual dishonesty is what is, is, is what makes most of our discussions in society

00:11:19.940 completely fruitless and worthless and why they devolve into incoherence within seconds

00:11:24.780 and they never amount to anything and no conclusions are ever drawn. And no one ever

00:11:28.720 comes to any kind of agreement or consensus at all on any argument. The reason is because

00:11:32.800 these are intellectually dishonest arguments and, and both people in the argument, or at least one

00:11:37.440 person in the argument, usually on the left, on the, on the left side of the equation, they're not

00:11:42.380 being honest about what they actually believe and what their intentions actually are in the

00:11:45.900 conversation. So they'll say, Hey, let's talk about my sex life. And then you'll, you'll say,

00:11:53.260 I, and I, I, I'd really rather not. And they'll say, this is what I do in my sex life. Do you approve?

00:11:59.360 No. Why are you talking about my sex life? This is none of your business.

00:12:04.080 Well, which is it? Is it none of my business or do you want to talk about it? It's got to be one

00:12:09.560 or the other. It's the same thing with, uh, and, and if you don't want to talk about it,

00:12:16.780 it's none of my business. Why are you marching through the street announcing? I mean, literally

00:12:23.620 announcing it to the world, marching through the street saying, Hey, everybody, look at me. This

00:12:27.620 is my sex life. Look, why are you doing that? The gay pride parade. What, what, why you have the

00:12:39.400 right that there's no more fighting for your rights. You have the right to do whatever you

00:12:42.220 want in America. No one's stopping you. Okay. You can do whatever you want. Why are you announcing

00:12:47.380 it? What's the point? If it's none of my business, what are you doing in the street? Waving a flag.

00:12:54.620 I mean, you literally have a flag representing your sex life. Why? It's the same thing with the

00:13:03.120 feminists in their vagina hats, wearing vagina costumes, talking explicitly about their genitals.

00:13:09.800 And then they recoil in horror. Uh, if anyone dares intrude in their private life. I mean, you've got a,

00:13:15.880 you got women wearing vagina costumes, holding signs saying, stay out of my business. I would love

00:13:22.640 to stay out of your business, but look at you, look at you. I can't.

00:13:26.560 Even worse, they demand that we subsidize their sex life by subsidizing their birth control. So they

00:13:33.840 say, Hey, mind your business, get out of my bedroom. But before you leave, put your, put your

00:13:37.640 wallet on the dresser there, because I'm going to need you to pay for this. It doesn't work that way.

00:13:44.240 I'm sorry. A couple of general rules of society. Number one, if you ask someone to pay for something,

00:13:51.160 they get to have an opinion about it. Number two, even if you don't ask them to pay for it,

00:13:56.560 if you bring up, okay. If you openly share details about your personal life with me,

00:14:06.020 I get to have an opinion and express it. And you don't get to act like you're victimized

00:14:13.060 because you brought it up. It's the court of public opinion in many ways operates like a court

00:14:20.480 of law. Okay. Think of it like that. At least as far as this goes, imagine that a guy's on trial

00:14:26.160 for arson. Okay. And in his past, he's been convicted of burglary. Well, the defense team

00:14:36.040 will go to the judge and they'll say, that's his private life. That's his personal life. That's

00:14:39.760 his personal history. It's not relevant to the arson, two different things. This shouldn't come

00:14:44.480 up in the trial. We should be talking about the arson charges. That's the discussion, not this thing

00:14:49.120 that's in the past. That's, you know, that's his, that's his issue. It's, it's jury doesn't need to

00:14:54.700 hear about that. And the judge very often will say, yeah, you're right. You know what? This is

00:14:59.740 inadmissible. Well, if the defense team or the defendant then proceeds to get up there

00:15:09.060 and talk about it themselves, well, now all bets are off. You've just admitted it into the

00:15:16.480 conversation. And so now the prosecution, they get to run with it because you brought it up.

00:15:20.900 So what you can't do in a court of public opinion and also in, in the, in a court of law,

00:15:29.400 both courts, you can't bring something up or talk about it and then say, well, the other side,

00:15:34.880 they're not allowed to talk about this thing, but I can. No, the moment you bring it up,

00:15:40.880 you have submitted it for public conversation. If you don't want it in the public and you don't

00:15:48.180 want the public talking about it and you don't want to hear people's opinions about it, don't bring

00:15:52.040 it up. Um, but this is, you know, people will, uh, even aside from the sex issue, you know, in modern

00:16:02.400 society, this is a common tactic people will use in pretty much any argument. You know, you'll be

00:16:06.760 talking about something and you're talking just in general terms about this issue. You know, you're not

00:16:12.620 using anyone's name. You're not speaking specifically about anyone's individual situation.

00:16:18.880 And then what someone will come in do is, is they'll come into the conversation and they will

00:16:23.020 just unload their, their own personal details as it pertains to this general conversation.

00:16:29.400 And they'll say, what are you talking about? This is, and then they'll just, they'll just give you

00:16:32.880 all the nitty gritty details of their own life that you didn't ask for. And why do they do that?

00:16:40.660 Because they think as soon as they attach their personal life to this issue, well, now you're

00:16:47.260 not allowed to talk about it and they automatically win. But people will get upset about at me because

00:16:53.320 when they do that, here's what I do. Well, now I'm going to give you my opinion on this personal

00:16:57.140 detail you've just given me. Then I'll say, no, I, you know what? I think you personally were wrong

00:17:03.120 with this or that situation. And they'll say, well, how dare you? It's none of your business.

00:17:07.540 Why did you tell me then? Why did you bring it up? I wasn't talking about you specifically. You

00:17:14.020 brought yourself into this. Well, now I guess we're talking about you. I didn't want to talk

00:17:19.020 about you, but you talked about you and I'm not going to let you shut down the conversation.

00:17:23.660 So now, okay, let's talk about you. You're wrong. You personally in your life, that's wrong.

00:17:28.300 So it's the same thing with, you know, if I'm walking down the street

00:17:33.880 and I pass by strangers on the street, I'm not, I'm not running up to the strangers and saying,

00:17:42.380 Hey, what are you doing? What kind of sex do you like having? I don't do that because I don't care.

00:17:48.500 And I don't want to know it's none of my business. If I ran up to you as just a stranger walking by,

00:17:54.480 you know, we, we passed, we, we, we walked through the same aisle and target or something.

00:17:59.060 And I, and I came up to you and I said, Hey, what, what kind of sex do you have at home?

00:18:03.300 Okay. If I did that, you'd, you'd be well within your rights to slap me in the face

00:18:06.420 because it's none of my business.

00:18:12.000 But if you run up to me and say, this is what I do. Do you think it's a perversion?

00:18:17.240 I'm well within my rights to say, yeah, I think it is. I didn't want to know this information. I

00:18:24.540 really was, I didn't have this in mind when I got up this morning to talk about this.

00:18:28.640 I'm just trying to shop. I'm, I'm just here at, uh, you know, I'm just, I'm just trying to get

00:18:32.460 some groceries and go home. You've brought this up. You have assaulted my eardrums with this

00:18:37.360 information about you. I didn't want to know it, but now that we're here and we're talking about it,

00:18:41.140 here's my answer. Yes. I think it's a perversion.

00:18:42.860 And it's the same principle applies. If you're marching through the street,

00:18:49.500 announcing your sexual hobbies to the world, declaring it, I mean, shoving it in everyone's

00:19:00.020 face. I mean, you're walking down main street in a city, just telling everyone kids and everyone,

00:19:05.160 guess what I do? I get to have an opinion about it. And it might be an opinion you don't like,

00:19:12.860 if you don't want to hear it, then don't bring it up.

00:19:17.600 I'll say it again for the last time. If you don't want to hear the public's opinion

00:19:23.160 about your private life, don't bring it up. Pompeo was smart to not fall into the trap

00:19:31.440 and actually answer Booker's question. But I, you know, as I said, if someone asks me that,

00:19:39.100 and I'm not being put up for secretary of state, I don't see that happening anytime soon.

00:19:44.100 But if someone asked me that, I would have no problem saying, yes, I think it's a perversion.

00:19:47.700 If you're asking me, yeah, I do think it. That's what I think. So we know that the left won't shut

00:19:55.420 up about their sex life because sex is pleasure. Pleasure is the point of life. Therefore, sex is the

00:20:01.780 point of life. But still, the question kind of remains here. And the question is, all right,

00:20:07.380 so you're obsessed with it because this is to you as the point of life and you find your identity

00:20:12.620 in your sex life because you can't find it anywhere else. But why, why do you need affirmation though?

00:20:21.060 Why, why the interrogation about sodomy? Why the marches? Why the celebration? Why are you wearing

00:20:25.460 the costume with the vagina and everything else? What are you doing that for? It's all,

00:20:30.880 it seems almost evangelical in the sense that you're trying to evangelize people into adopting

00:20:37.160 your approach to sex, which why now, but here's the thing we're told all the time by the left and

00:20:46.520 they'll kind of scoff and they'll say, what? Yeah. Yeah. We're not trying to turn you gay.

00:20:49.560 We're not trying to turn your kids gay. That's not the point of a, of a gay pride parade is that it's

00:20:54.100 not, it's not to convince you to be gay and okay. I believe you. I think that that's not really

00:20:58.060 primarily the point. Well, then what is the point now for Christians are often accused of Bible

00:21:05.460 thumping, of hitting people over the head with their religion and their personal views on things,

00:21:09.680 but that's because Christianity is evangelical. And yeah, we're very upfront. We are trying to

00:21:14.680 convince you to be Christian for your own sake, because we believe that in Christianity, we,

00:21:20.840 you find in Christ the key to salvation, to eternal happiness. And so not only,

00:21:28.060 do we feel perfectly, um, uh, fine telling people about it, but we feel called, we are called

00:21:38.800 to tell people about it. It would be pretty horrible for us if we thought we had the key

00:21:43.780 to eternal happiness and we didn't tell you. So you could disagree. You could say we're wrong.

00:21:48.840 We're crazy. Fine. I mean, that's your opinion. You're allowed to have that opinion,

00:21:51.780 but it doesn't make any sense for you to be offended at us for telling you, considering

00:21:57.000 that part of our belief system is that through this, you find eternal happiness in heaven.

00:22:03.260 So yes, we are trying to convince you to be Christian, but with the left, with the sexual

00:22:10.780 stuff, they'll say, no, we're not trying to convince you to do any of this. Okay. So what are you doing?

00:22:19.400 You have, you already have the right to do whatever you want sexually. So there's no sort of shortage of

00:22:27.580 rights. What, why, what are you doing? I think the answer is, um, it's the same thing that motivates

00:22:35.820 anyone who talks too much about themselves, overshares, dominates the conversation with

00:22:39.960 irrelevant personal details. It's always insecurity. The person who goes around announcing,

00:22:47.620 I am so confident in my personal choices and my lifestyle. I want to tell everyone about it.

00:22:53.800 That person is definitely not confident because that's not what confident people do.

00:23:01.880 Um, a confident person is someone with quiet dignity, someone who doesn't seek affirmation

00:23:10.820 from the world because he doesn't need it. And the feelings of the world are irrelevant to him.

00:23:17.620 So, um, I'll announce my Christianity to the world because I do want you to be Christian for

00:23:25.380 your own sake. But as far as my personal life as a heterosexual married male, I'm not talking about

00:23:34.340 that. And I'm not waving a flag saying, I am so proud of it. I don't do that because I don't need

00:23:40.120 your approval. It doesn't matter. I'm a hundred percent confident in it. And I have found fulfillment.

00:23:45.700 I don't need, it doesn't matter to me. I mean, everyone in the world can think that my relationship

00:23:49.840 with my wife is disgusting. It doesn't matter to me. I don't care. I, I, it really doesn't. It's,

00:23:55.640 I mean, if everyone in the world thought that I would think, well, you're all pretty crazy, but

00:23:59.940 that's, that's on you. I I'm not going to go talking about it. I'm not going to go talking about

00:24:05.400 it in the world because number one, I don't need your affirmation. It doesn't matter to me. I'm

00:24:08.940 a hundred percent confident. Number two, to me, it's an intimate, private, sacred thing.

00:24:18.480 And so I'm, I, I, I, I'm not going to put it out there for public consumption. I'm not going to put

00:24:24.580 it up there for public debate. I'm not going to use it in an argument as a bludgeon to beat my

00:24:31.220 enemies with, or as emotional blackmail. I, I'm not going to cheapen it like that.

00:24:38.600 I'm going to keep it to myself with my wife. You know, it's between me, my wife, and God. That's all.

00:24:47.520 That's the real reason you don't see, you know, we've talked, people say, well, why aren't there

00:24:50.860 any heterosexual pride parades? I think for most people like myself anyway, it's because I,

00:25:00.480 what would be the, what would be the point? There's no point in it. And also this is private.

00:25:07.700 It's for me. It's not for anyone else. So I think people are, especially on the left, you know,

00:25:13.360 that people are, you know, they're, they're, they're unfulfilled and they feel empty and they're

00:25:20.580 not confident. And for that reason, I pity them and I have compassion for them and I pray for them,

00:25:26.560 but point remains. The moment you bring this up, the moment you grab a sign, grab a flag,

00:25:33.780 take to the streets, bring it up at a confirmation hearing, whatever else you start beating people

00:25:41.560 over the head with it, shoving in their face 24 seven. The moment you do that, well, whatever

00:25:48.640 offensive opinions you hear as a result, it's your fault. Brought it on yourself. All right. Um,

00:25:55.620 we'll leave it there guys. Thank you for watching. Thanks for listening. I'll talk to you tomorrow.

The Matt Walsh Show - April 16, 2018

Ep. 10 - They Want Affirmation, Not Just Tolerance

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