The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1010 - Traumatized By Ben Shapiro's Presence

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, Ben Shapiro traumatizes the nation's podcasters by attending a podcasting

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00:01:48.240 savings with gold. Well, as you all know, I am nothing if not a sunny, cheerful optimist. I prefer

00:01:55.360 to believe that we live in a world of rainbows and gumdrops. That's just how I like to see the

00:02:00.580 world. And that's why when I encounter abject lunacy and absurdity, I still sometimes have a

00:02:06.340 hard time believing it, believing that it's true. There's a part of me that clings to the hope,

00:02:11.480 the desperate, dying hope that the dumbest, most incorrigibly stupid things are really just a joke,

00:02:17.680 a dark kind of satire. And yet those hopes are almost always, in the end, dashed.

00:02:23.840 And that brings us to the events of yesterday afternoon. But before we get there, we got to

00:02:27.240 back up a little bit. The day before yesterday, when the Podcast Movement Conference kicked off

00:02:33.120 in Dallas. This is a trade expo for podcasters organized and run by a group called Podcast Movement.

00:02:39.420 Podcasters from around the country, they come together and they talk about podcasting.

00:02:43.880 Now, frankly, as a podcaster myself, the event sounds like a nightmare. The last thing I'd ever

00:02:49.740 want to do is be around a bunch of other podcasters talking about podcasting. That's just me. The Daily

00:02:54.440 Wire had a more positive attitude about it. And so the company set up a booth on the convention floor.

00:03:00.180 To be clear, we paid to set up a booth. The money was accepted by this group Podcast Movement.

00:03:05.580 And the booth was set up and everything seemed to be fine until tragedy struck. Ben Shapiro showed up

00:03:12.920 at the conference. Now, he wasn't speaking there. He wasn't presenting anything. He just kind of showed

00:03:17.360 up and said hello to people, took some pictures with fans, and then he left. As far as I know,

00:03:23.780 he didn't lash out violently at any point. He didn't go berserk and start murdering podcasters left and

00:03:29.060 right. And even if he did, you know, there are so many podcasters in the world that honestly,

00:03:32.740 it wouldn't be that big of a deal. We have enough to spare. But that's not what happened.

00:03:36.360 He also did not, despite reports to the contrary, bite the head off of a kitten while uttering demonic

00:03:41.820 incantations. He didn't even drink blood or breathe fire. He did none of those things so far as I'm

00:03:47.200 aware. And yet, Podcast Movement the next day issued this tweet, which when I saw it for the first time,

00:03:54.300 I could only stare at it blankly for several minutes, trying to convince myself that it's supposed

00:03:59.760 to be satirical. But alas, it is not. They tweeted,

00:04:04.380 Hi folks, we owe you an apology before sessions kick off for the day.

00:04:09.460 Yesterday afternoon, Ben Shapiro briefly visited the PM22 Expo area near the Daily Wire booth.

00:04:15.660 Though he was not registered or expected, we take full responsibility for the harm done by his

00:04:21.200 presence. There's no way around it. We agreed to sell the Daily Wire a first-time booth based on the

00:04:27.340 large presence in podcasting. The weight of that decision is now painfully clear. Shapiro is a

00:04:34.220 co-founder. A drop-in, however unlikely, should have been considered a possibility. Oh, but they

00:04:40.580 aren't done yet. It continues. Those of you who called this unacceptable are right. In nine wonderful

00:04:46.560 years growing and celebrating this medium, PM has made mistakes. The pain caused by this one will always

00:04:53.600 stick with us. We promise that sponsors will be more carefully considered moving forward. Just to

00:04:59.420 clarify, no TDW representatives were scheduled to appear on panels, and Shapiro remained in the common

00:05:05.860 space and did not have a badge. If you have questions, we're here to talk. Thank you for reading, and we

00:05:11.220 hope you continue to join us from here on out. Now, in fairness, I will admit that Ben's presence

00:05:17.340 in the office causes me pain and trauma as well, but that's only because he stole my giant stuffed

00:05:23.160 walrus. If any of the people at the podcast conference even have giant stuffed walruses,

00:05:27.980 theirs were home safe and not threatened by Ben Shapiro at all. So what was their complaint?

00:05:33.240 Well, a short time after these tweets from the podcast movement went out, the Daily Wire released

00:05:38.160 video from Ben's brief time at the conference. You can watch for yourself and decide whether this reaction

00:05:44.780 from the people there was warranted. So here's the footage, and of course, you know, it goes without

00:05:49.820 saying, viewer discretion is advised. Here it is. Yesterday afternoon, Ben Shapiro briefly visited

00:05:56.500 the PM22 Expo. Though he was not registered or expected, we take full responsibility for the harm

00:06:02.600 done by his presence. We agreed to sell the Daily Wire a first-time booth based on the company's

00:06:15.140 large presence in podcasting. The weight of that decision is now painfully clear.

00:06:27.600 During event planning, the dangerous nature of the company's messaging was overlooked.

00:06:31.700 Those of you who called this unacceptable are right. Podcast movement has made mistakes.

00:06:43.220 The pain caused by this one will always stick with us.

00:07:01.700 My God. He's a monster. Those people certainly look like they were fearing for their lives, because

00:07:09.860 that's what you do when you're deathly afraid of somebody. You ask for a selfie.

00:07:14.420 May seem to be sort of an unorthodox strategy, but it turned out to be an effective defense mechanism.

00:07:19.140 Perhaps it's a tactic you could try the next time you're being chased through the woods by an axe

00:07:22.900 murderer. You can stop them from killing you by just asking them to pose for a picture.

00:07:26.840 Now, in any event, clearly not everybody was happy to see Ben there. One podcaster who goes by the

00:07:32.760 handle Starplanes on Twitter took a picture of Ben from a safe distance and tweeted it with a caption,

00:07:39.320 hey, podcast movement, what the F? Continuing, it says, as a trans, a queer person, as someone with

00:07:46.280 a uterus, this does not make me feel welcome. This does not make me feel safe. 1.00

00:07:51.540 A short time later, Starplanes provided this update, just confirmed with the pod move team

00:07:56.600 that they did not know Shapiro was attending. In fact, they were told he was not. Him showing up

00:08:00.920 was the first they knew about it. Does that make everything okay? No. Am I much happier knowing

00:08:06.240 he was not an invited guest? Absolutely. Now, you might be asking yourself, who gives a damn what

00:08:12.580 Starplanes thinks? Why is she special? Was Ben Shapiro supposed to get special clearance from her

00:08:17.500 specifically before simply existing within a 100 foot radius of her? Well, yes, that's exactly what

00:08:24.180 was supposed to happen, apparently. And that's why, due to this complaint from Starplanes, and maybe a

00:08:29.380 few other complaints, though that's the only one I've actually seen, the organization issued what may

00:08:33.700 go down in history as the most pathetic apology of all time. It certainly wins the title for this

00:08:39.680 month, at least. I think we can agree on that. Now, what makes this all the more pathetic and

00:08:44.360 embarrassing is that Ben Shapiro is one of the very top podcasters in the business. The Daily

00:08:49.000 Wire as a company is one of the top podcast publishers. According to the latest ranking

00:08:52.640 from PodTrack, we're the sixth largest publisher in the country with 72 million downloads just last

00:08:58.140 month alone, which means we beat companies like Disney and Fox and Paramount and Cumulus.

00:09:04.260 In fact, our performance is even more impressive than that, as PodTrack counts us as having 12 active

00:09:09.680 shows. iHeartRadio, which is the number one publisher, has 678 active shows. Wondery at number

00:09:16.500 two has 202. NPR at three has 46. So we come in at number six with only 12, and less than half of

00:09:25.420 those 12 are daily shows. So pound for pound, in terms of the average number of downloads per show,

00:09:31.660 we actually should be number two right behind the New York Times. The point here is that if you're a

00:09:37.240 podcaster attending a podcasting convention with podcasting talks and workshops, you should want

00:09:44.600 us there. You should be coming up to us for podcasting classes. You should be asking us to

00:09:49.900 teach our secrets. If you see Ben Shapiro walking around, you should be coming to him for advice,

00:09:55.140 not running away in fear with your hands over your ears. Starplanes, whose real name apparently is

00:10:00.600 Tal Muneer, is in the podcasting business, and yet nobody's ever heard of this person.

00:10:05.740 She's had no success. Her career has been pitiful, no offense. But she didn't go to Ben Shapiro and

00:10:13.580 say, hi, I work in the same business as you, but I have no idea how to be successful at it. You are

00:10:18.700 much, much better at this and approximately five million times more successful. Please teach me your

00:10:23.920 ways. If you want to be successful, that's what you do when you're around people who are more

00:10:29.040 successful than you in the same field. Instead, she stood off at a distance tweeting angrily and

00:10:34.880 demanding that this man who could teach her so much be escorted off the premises. And maybe as I

00:10:40.480 say this, I'm kind of explaining part of the problem. There is no doubt a lot of jealousy at

00:10:45.420 work here. The Daily Wire is conservative, but that alone is not our sin, right? Our sin is that we are

00:10:50.680 conservative and wildly successful. That's why they can't stand us. In fact, they're more than happy

00:10:56.960 to have conservatives who are in these same spaces, but are not successful. That's good.

00:11:05.060 But to be successful in their space and to be more successful than them, that's just not, that's

00:11:10.360 unthinkable. And yet as ridiculous as all this is, we cannot fail to notice the more serious

00:11:18.780 implications. So it's bad enough when a conservative is judged dangerous or harmful for the opinions that

00:11:26.220 he's expressing. It's bad enough when our ideas are treated like chemical weapons. What happened

00:11:34.660 yesterday represents an escalation beyond all of that. It's not simply Ben's opinions that are

00:11:39.740 dangerous now. It is his presence. His existence in physical space is harmful and painful. Now, I don't

00:11:46.660 think I need to spell out why this is, you know, why this is a problem. When it's determined that a

00:11:54.860 conservative's mere presence can cause harm, the stage has been set for some rather dark and terrible

00:12:02.540 things. And if I do need to spell it out, then I will say that labeling the physical presence of a

00:12:08.900 group of people harmful is pre-genocide talk. It is quite literally a justification for rounding people

00:12:17.000 up and throwing them in prisons or mass graves. And if it was just some group of fragile podcasters

00:12:24.280 talking this way, it'd be nothing to worry about. But the problem is that this is increasingly the

00:12:29.380 language adopted by all of the most powerful institutions in America. That those with wrong 1.00

00:12:35.260 ideas are not just wrong. They're dangerous. They're terrorists. And they have to be dealt with

00:12:42.480 accordingly. And that's where all this leads. Now, let's get to our five headlines.

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00:14:11.640 presence is that these people all harbor ideas and opinions that they simply cannot defend and they

00:14:19.100 know they can't defend them. So here's another good example of this. Also from yesterday, Andy Ngo,

00:14:24.720 you all know who Andy Ngo is. He tweeted a year ago, okay, this was a year ago. He put out a tweet

00:14:32.020 about Alana McLaughlin, who's an MMA fighter, a male who beats the hell out of females. A year later,

00:14:40.240 I guess having taken 12 months to think of a comeback, McLaughlin's trainer, who goes by the

00:14:46.980 name Elias Cepeda, responded to Andy Ngo a year later and says, that's right. And I'm damn proud to

00:14:54.700 train her. You cowards coming for her can come for me as well. I'm easy to find.

00:15:01.240 And again, he's just responding to Andy Ngo pointing out that there is this male MMA fighter,

00:15:06.600 Alana McLaughlin, who's beaten the hell out of females. And then the guy's trainer comes and says, 1.00

00:15:13.300 oh, why don't you come say that to my face, right? Well, I saw this and rather than taking another year

00:15:20.460 to continue the conversation, I decided to speed the pace up a little bit. And I responded to him

00:15:24.760 and I said, is this challenge open to anyone? I'd love to talk to you and give you the opportunity to

00:15:28.900 defend your position on transgenderism and women's sports. Also would love to get your definition of

00:15:33.000 the word woman. Let's set it up. And I thought, you know, this is a tough guy. He was just, he was

00:15:38.000 just tweeting, say, anyone can come for me. Bring it. And I said, okay, let's do it. We could,

00:15:44.880 in person, you know, we could set something up, whatever you want to do. Well, it took him a day

00:15:50.540 to get back to me, a pretty fast turnaround for him. So he's working a little bit faster. Give

00:15:54.460 him some credit for that. Took him a, you know, it only took him a day to put this together. And he

00:15:58.320 says, I don't defend or debate that trans women are equal to cis women and deserving of equal rights,

00:16:05.420 professional opportunities, and pursuits of happiness. Anyone wanting to challenge that is

00:16:09.240 denying a group of people's humanity. And I don't treat such people as good faith actors. 1.00

00:16:13.420 Of course, of course, of course you don't. You pathetic, gutless little coward.

00:16:21.340 You absolute wimp. And of course, people in the comments, some of his supporters were saying,

00:16:28.140 oh, he didn't mean challenge to a debate. Okay. What kind of challenge was he talking about?

00:16:32.280 But punching, we could punch each other. I mean, I would fully admit if you're an MMA fighter and we

00:16:39.060 got into a contest about who could punch the other person better, you'd probably win that

00:16:43.400 fight. The problem though, is that that wouldn't do anything to prove the legitimacy of your ideas.

00:16:54.760 Okay. And if you're interested in that, especially if I'm a bad faith actor, I'm just a bigot,

00:17:06.060 my ideas are totally indefensible, right? I mean, that's what you believe.

00:17:10.600 Why would you forego the opportunity to humiliate me? How easy, if I'm just a bigot,

00:17:17.520 bad faith actor, I hate trans people, how easy would it be to totally humiliate me? 1.00

00:17:24.880 We sit down from a cross from each other. It could be a live stream, no edits, just,

00:17:28.760 you could, you could utterly embarrass me. And especially if you have, if you have a definition

00:17:34.620 for the word woman that still validates your, you know, your point of view. Well, I've set this 0.99

00:17:42.140 whole challenge up around what is a woman? If you could actually answer the question, how embarrassing 1.00

00:17:46.780 would that be for me? Doesn't want to take advantage of the opportunity. Interesting.

00:17:55.840 See, that's the, on their side, for me on, on this side, being on the right side,

00:17:59.780 I will talk to literally anyone. I am not afraid to talk to anyone. I don't care who you are.

00:18:05.340 Pull in any expert, doctor, scientist. I don't care. I'll sit down and talk to you. Anyone

00:18:09.780 on their side, they take the exact opposite approach. They won't talk to anybody.

00:18:17.540 They don't even want to be in the same room.

00:18:21.720 All right, let's start here. Daily Wire has a report. Meta CEO Mark Zuckerberg revealed Thursday

00:18:27.260 on the Joe Rogan experience that the FBI approached the social media company during the 2020 presidential

00:18:32.840 election and pushed them to crack down on alleged Russian propaganda before the Hunter Biden laptop

00:18:37.600 story was published by the New York Post. Zuckerberg made their remarks when asked by host Joe Rogan

00:18:43.240 how Facebook handled big news items that were controversial. We actually have the clips. Let's

00:18:47.020 play, let's play some of that. How do you guys handle things when they're a big news item that's

00:18:54.240 controversial? Like there was a lot of attention on Twitter during the election because of the Hunter

00:19:01.080 Biden laptop story, the New York Post. Yeah, we have that too. Yeah. So you guys censored that as well?

00:19:05.760 So we took a different path than Twitter. I mean, basically the background here is the FBI,

00:19:12.400 I think basically came to us, some folks on our team and was like, hey, just so you know,

00:19:18.060 like you should be on high alert. There was, we thought that there was a lot of Russian propaganda in

00:19:22.760 the 2016 election. We have it on notice that basically there's about to be some kind of dump

00:19:30.000 of, of, of, um, uh, that's similar to that. So just be vigilant. So our protocol is different

00:19:36.960 from Twitter's. What Twitter did is they said, you can't share this at all. Um, we didn't do that.

00:19:41.840 Pause there for a second. The first question you hear, the FBI went to Facebook and said,

00:19:47.140 be on the look for, look out for misinformation. Why is the FBI dealing with this?

00:19:55.600 I mean, leaving aside for a moment that the so-called misinformation they're suppressing

00:20:00.080 is not misinformation and is actually true information. Even leaving that aside, what,

00:20:05.300 what does the FBI have to do with misinformation? People are saying wrong things on the internet

00:20:11.160 and that's an, that's an FBI problem. Now we need the federal Bureau of Investigation to investigate

00:20:16.960 wrong opinions on the internet. If that's what the FBI is doing, then they could never do anything but

00:20:21.500 that because the internet is full of wrong opinions. But for some reason, the FBI is involved. Let's

00:20:32.800 keep listening. What we do is we have, um, if something's reported to us as potentially, um,

00:20:39.700 misinformation, important misinformation. We, we also have this third party fact checking program

00:20:44.580 because we don't want to be deciding what's true and false. And for the, I think it was five or seven

00:20:50.540 days when it was basically being, um, being determined whether it was false. Um, the distribution

00:20:59.240 on Facebook was decreased, but people were still allowed to share it. So you could still share it.

00:21:03.860 You could still consume it. So when you say the distribution is decreased, how does that work?

00:21:09.320 It basically, the ranking in newsfeed was a little bit less. So fewer people saw it than

00:21:14.020 would have otherwise. So it definitely, by what percentage? I don't know off the top of my head,

00:21:19.260 but it's, it's, it's meaningful. But I mean, but basically a, um, a lot of people were still

00:21:26.200 able to share it. We got a lot of complaints that that was the case. Um, you know, obviously this is a

00:21:31.000 hyper-political. So he's, he, he, he thinks that this was the, this was the better approach. So,

00:21:36.700 uh, he's proud of the fact that, well, we didn't take it down completely. Twitter

00:21:40.460 infamously took the story down. Uh, I think where they suspended the New York post for,

00:21:45.980 for a period of time for even posting at the beginning. And, uh, you weren't allowed to share

00:21:49.720 it at all. And, uh, even if you try New York post couldn't, couldn't put it out and no other

00:21:55.240 accounts could put it out. That's how Twitter handled it. Mark Zuckerberg says, no, you were allowed to

00:21:59.800 share it. We just, uh, we manipulated the newsfeed so that fewer people saw it.

00:22:06.280 And this is supposed to be better, I guess he thinks, but if anything, it's worse because at

00:22:11.540 least on Twitter, um, what they're doing is out in the open. The bias is out in the open. Everybody

00:22:18.740 knows it. And at the very least we can say that it doesn't make it okay or any better, but, uh,

00:22:26.400 it's, it's a public thing and we all know they're doing it.

00:22:29.800 When you're manipulating it behind the scenes. So no one even knows that you're doing it.

00:22:34.120 That's a lot worse. That's more insidious, not better.

00:22:40.380 But that still doesn't answer the question of, uh, why the FBI was getting involved to begin with.

00:22:44.620 And, and, well, we know the answer to that question because the FBI was interested in making

00:22:51.880 sure the Democrats won presidential election. I mean, the FBI is going to the social media platforms

00:23:00.660 and telling them what sort of information they're supposed to suppress on their platforms.

00:23:05.340 This is election rigging. Yes. The 2020 election was rigged in part by the FBI, according to what we

00:23:12.300 just heard there. It's a huge scandal. I mean, this is a, this is actually an enormous mind blowing

00:23:19.420 scandal, but you know what else? No, one's going to be talking about it 45 minutes from now.

00:23:29.700 It's a huge scandal that, uh, well, the mainstream media doesn't want to talk about it at all,

00:23:34.460 but in general, people will just move on from it a day later. Not even talking about it anymore.

00:23:38.820 Do you remember the Trump raid? Remember that? Remember that back from ancient history? And

00:23:43.720 that was the biggest story in the world across right-wing and left-wing media. Biggest story,

00:23:49.740 unbelievable. The FBI raided Trump. This is going to change the outcome of the midterm elections.

00:23:55.680 Like the midterm elections are going to be about this now, everybody thought.

00:23:59.900 Three days later, no one's talking about it. Nobody.

00:24:02.340 Nobody. That's one of the great problems I think we face as a society. And, uh, it can't all be,

00:24:12.180 I mean, part of it is the media. You know, the media likes to move stories along quickly,

00:24:16.940 especially if they're stories that aren't favorable to their agenda. So that's part of it,

00:24:21.120 but it's not just the media. It's really, uh, it's, it's like, this is a, this is an everybody

00:24:25.180 problem where we can't stay focused on one thing for more than a day. And so stories and issues that

00:24:36.100 are really important. Um, they'll get the attention they deserve for a brief sliver of time. And then

00:24:42.080 the next day it's like, okay, what's the new thing? I'm already bored. All right. Um, and having said

00:24:51.400 that now I'm going to move on to the next story. Okay. Gavin Newsom in California had some thoughts

00:24:56.560 about Ron DeSantis, especially after DeSantis insulted elves yesterday by comparing Fauci to

00:25:02.240 them. And, uh, uh, uh, Gavin Newsom didn't like that. Well, he was offended for a different reason.

00:25:07.360 Let's listen to him. I don't like bullies. You want to ask what my why is in life? I don't like

00:25:15.100 bullies. I don't like people that demean people. I don't like people talk down to people. I didn't

00:25:18.940 like what DeSantis said about Fauci that he may disagree with them, but to call someone pejorative

00:25:23.560 terms because they're short, who the hell raised these guys? What kind of people are they? I mean,

00:25:29.980 I know all of us had to, you know, sit there and suck it up and take Trump's demonization,

00:25:35.460 but not everybody has to act like him. I mean, literally, I, I remember growing up and folks

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00:25:47.480 want these guys being models, the attacking LGBT community attacking women. I mean, this 1.00

00:25:53.800 guy's so extreme, you rape and incest. Ron DeSantis talks about freedom and a young girl's

00:26:00.240 raped by her father. Doesn't have the right to her own body to make her own decisions. 1.00

00:26:05.720 Spare me freedom. There's no freedom. There's no choice. So yeah, I'm standing up as a human

00:26:11.800 being got to use those dollars. And I hope others of you send money to send a message that if that's

00:26:19.360 the future of the damn Republican party, this country's in real trouble. I like how by the end,

00:26:24.800 it just devolved into the shouting, talking points at random. So it started relatively coherently,

00:26:31.120 relatively. But by the end, he's just like, I mean, LGBT community, women, bigotry, extreme,

00:26:39.980 rape and incest, freedom, climate change. He's like some kind of woke baby doll where you press

00:26:47.180 his stomach and he says a programmed phrase, only the doll's malfunctioning now.

00:26:51.940 As for the stuff at the beginning about being a bully, well, you know, sure. I'm actually okay

00:26:59.400 with that. I think when you're on the side accusing the other side of being a bully,

00:27:04.160 it means you're losing. That's the loser claim in politics. People coming out calling Ron DeSantis

00:27:14.560 a bully, that is a sign of his success. That's what the losers do. Oh, you're being a bully. You're

00:27:20.300 being mean. You're losing. If that's your criticism. And you know what? Yeah, you're right.

00:27:29.860 See, this is the new right as opposed to the old establishment right. And on the new right,

00:27:34.980 yeah, we're going to be bullies. And we don't care if you call us that.

00:27:39.000 Because we're not going to put up with it anymore. And we also don't care about the labels that you

00:27:44.180 use. We don't care if your feelings are hurt. We don't. And we're also, we're not going to give

00:27:50.460 you respect you don't deserve. Why did Ron DeSantis talk about Fauci that way? Because Fauci deserves no

00:27:57.620 respect at all. He has no respect for him. I mean, Fauci should be in prison. He's not going

00:28:04.820 to be in prison. So the least we could do is insult him. Well, he deserves it. You don't

00:28:09.060 like that kind of language, Ron? Okay, deal with it. I don't care. So we're drawing hard lines here.

00:28:20.480 And yeah, maybe we're going to be, we're going to use tougher language than what you're used to

00:28:24.400 hearing from the other side. Because what you're used to from the other side is that you could say

00:28:27.880 whatever the hell you want and insult your opponents, the kingdom come. And they're not

00:28:35.840 going to respond in kind because they're too worried about, oh, we're going to be dignified.

00:28:40.760 But for them, dignified is the same as just being a coward. They don't see a difference between the

00:28:46.160 two. We're not playing that game anymore. So yeah, we're being bullies. You deserve to be bullied.

00:28:54.400 And they could get away, right, with insulting the other side all they want

00:29:06.140 because their insults are, oh, you're a racist. You're a bigot. You're this and that.

00:29:13.960 And that doesn't count as an insult because that's, I guess, what the media says. That's just

00:29:18.060 an accurate description. So that's how they see it, right? That's really how they see it.

00:29:24.380 They can say whatever they want about us and treat us any way they want to because we deserve it.

00:29:32.240 That's the difference. So they can say something about us and then we can say the exact same thing

00:29:38.480 about them and they have the right to be offended. Well, how could you talk this way? Well, back in

00:29:44.140 my day, you get your mouth washed out with soap. Even when you talk the exact same way, but in your

00:29:48.880 mind, see, they, they rationalize it by saying, well, yeah, but you deserve it. You're a terrible

00:29:52.360 person. But you can't say that to me. I'm perfect. And for so many years, they've gotten away with

00:30:00.540 that because the right by and large has just cooperated as if to agree, as if to agree that,

00:30:07.840 you know what? Yeah, you deserve more respect than you give us. What? No, those days are over.

00:30:14.100 Hate to tell you, Gavin, uh, who, by the way, you look a little bit like an elf too. I just thought 0.87

00:30:20.340 I'd note. All right. I want to make sure we have some time for this. Libs of TikTok doing some

00:30:24.600 investigative journalism. Um, one of the only people in the country doing actual investigative

00:30:31.740 journalism. And, and what she's doing here is, uh, you know, you would think that if there were real

00:30:37.960 journalists working for these supposed news outlets, that one of them would have done this

00:30:41.560 given that we're, there's this conversation about children's hospitals and so-called gender affirming

00:30:49.380 surgeries and procedures, and which of those procedures do they inflict on minors and which

00:30:57.240 do they reserve for adults? Well, a good way to find out is to just call them, not as a member of

00:31:04.540 the media, but just call them and ask. That's exactly what Libs of TikTok did. And, uh, let's

00:31:11.840 start going through this, uh, audio here. This is what, by the way, this is the, I don't know if I

00:31:15.320 mentioned, this is the, um, Children's Hospital. What is this? Children's National Hospital in DC. Okay.

00:31:22.400 Thank you for calling National Hospital. Your call may be recorded for quality assurance.

00:31:27.100 I was calling, uh, for information about gender affirming hysterectomies. Okay. You said gender

00:31:34.600 affirming hysterectomy. I've been in touch with quite a few hospitals. Um, and a lot of them,

00:31:40.400 well, they said they won't do it for, for my 16 year old. Um, and then I was told that this hospital

00:31:46.240 might, and I also saw it on your website. Um, so if you guys do, uh, do it for a 16 year old, I'll,

00:31:53.200 I would be happy for, you know, to come for a consultation or whatever it takes. Let me get

00:31:59.280 you over to the operator. And I hate to transfer you. I just, I just need to want to know if, if

00:32:06.300 you guys do service that age, you know, before obviously before coming, you know, coming all the

00:32:13.040 way for an in-person consult and going through all the paperwork and everything. Yeah, it depends.

00:32:18.520 Like each department is different. Some, some departments cut off at 18. How old, how old is your

00:32:21.980 patient? 16. Okay. All right. So they're in the clear. I'll email the, um, got the call and

00:32:28.840 see what we can. In the meantime, if you still want me to transfer you, I can still transfer you

00:32:33.040 to the surgery. All right. So pause it there for a sec. So we've, we've already heard from the

00:32:37.800 operator. Oh, well, she said it very clear. You're in the clear at the age of 16. You're in the clear.

00:32:43.600 Now this is very different. If you were to call, uh, and this is the investigation that

00:32:49.020 media outlets have done, where as members of the media, they call the hospital's PR department

00:32:55.560 and say, Hey, uh, you're being criticized for doing this awful thing. Do you actually do that

00:33:01.240 thing? And then the hospital say, no, no, we don't do that. And then the media says, well,

00:33:06.460 you see, there it is. They would never lie to us. End of discussion. But if you call them

00:33:13.640 as a potential patient slash customer willing to give your money, you get a very different

00:33:19.940 answer. Uh, conversation continues. Let's play a little bit more of this.

00:33:24.800 Hi, I was calling, um, because I'm looking for information about the gender affirming

00:33:29.360 hysterectomies that you guys offer.

00:33:31.060 Am I in the right place? Okay. Yes. Um, this is the clinic. Did you want to make an appointment?

00:33:42.700 So I was just wondering, I've, I've contacted quite a few hospitals already. Um, it seems

00:33:48.560 like it's difficult to find one that does the operation, um, for my 16 year old. And I was

00:33:56.520 told that you guys do do that. Um, so if you do it for 16 year olds, then yes, I'd love

00:34:03.040 to schedule, um, an appointment, a consultation, whatever you need.

00:34:07.300 If you don't mind me asking, um, what does your child gender change into? So I can point 0.99

00:34:14.580 you to the right direction.

00:34:15.440 Wait, pause it there for a second. What did your child's gender change into? This is someone

00:34:22.640 at the hospital at, in the relevant department asking that question. What did your child's

00:34:27.960 gender change into? What, what does that mean? And, and, and by the way, it's like, because

00:34:38.480 they're right. There's not just two options. So hysterectomy means that we're dealing with

00:34:43.240 a girl we can assume. So maybe the hospital worker knows that much, but she's not a girl

00:34:48.860 anymore, but maybe not a boy. She could be something else. Uh, it's also like, why, why

00:34:58.460 does that matter to you? I mean, is, is there, what, what difference does that make? Anyway,

00:35:07.980 let's, let's continue.

00:35:09.540 Yeah. Well, he transitioned to a male, you know, he already had the top surgery. Um, and

00:35:16.620 now we're looking for the hysterectomy. Okay. Beautiful. So I'm gonna transfer you to the

00:35:22.900 GYN nurse line. One of the nurses will give you a call to give you more information and

00:35:29.220 to let you know the steps and the protocol that they do for that. Okay. Okay. So, so they

00:35:36.680 do, so they would do it, um, for, at, for that age. Yes. All right. There you go. That's

00:35:44.500 it. Good. So confirmed with two people, the hospital operator, and then someone in the

00:35:51.340 relevant department. Yes, they do gender affirming quote unquote hysterectomies for 16 year olds

00:35:58.180 right there from the horse's mouth, so to speak. Now, uh, this was published. And shortly after

00:36:05.620 that, Children's National Hospital put out a statement and here's their statement. We are

00:36:12.160 aware of the audio recording circulating on Twitter. Here are the facts. We foster a welcoming

00:36:17.980 and inclusive environment for all, serving our LGBTQ plus patients and families in the

00:36:22.440 full spectrum of their care. We do not provide gender affirming surgery for anyone under the

00:36:28.520 age of 18. We do not provide hormone therapy to children before puberty begins. Care is individualized

00:36:35.180 for each patient and always involves families making decisions in coordination with a team of highly

00:36:38.840 trained pediatric specialists. Now, once again, the media is taking that and saying, well, see,

00:36:44.560 debunked. We have on tape the people at the hospital saying, yes, we do that for 16 year olds.

00:36:55.360 So either the hospital is lying now in an effort to cover their ass, which by the way, that's the

00:37:02.220 correct answer here, or the people at the hospital were lying. Someone's lying. The hospital is lying,

00:37:08.780 one way or another. The person who wrote this statement was lying, or the people at the hospital

00:37:12.100 that you heard in the clip there, they were lying. I mean, does the hospital have a policy against

00:37:19.100 doing gender affirming hysterectomies for 16 year olds, and yet they were going to do it anyway?

00:37:24.480 Well, that's a scandal too. I mean, no matter what, the hospital doesn't come out clean here.

00:37:28.860 And yet the kind of hopeless feeling that you get, as always, is that even though it's right

00:37:37.720 there plain as day, it just doesn't matter. There's no further investigation from any relevant

00:37:44.560 authority. This is in DC, okay? The mayor of DC is not going to put any pressure on this. The police

00:37:53.320 aren't going to show up. And really, the entire statement is mind-boggling.

00:38:03.620 What about this part here? We do not provide hormone therapy to children before puberty begins.

00:38:10.480 Okay. What's the significance of that? You don't provide hormone therapy to children before puberty

00:38:18.920 begins, but you do provide it after puberty begins or when puberty is beginning. They're still

00:38:24.700 children though, aren't they? This is something that I've heard from trans activists actually,

00:38:32.860 not the first time. This is something I've heard frequently over the last few weeks, especially,

00:38:36.820 as they've been denying that these things are done to children at all.

00:38:42.680 And I've heard this. Well, this isn't done to children. This doesn't happen until puberty.

00:38:46.420 What do you mean? So we're talking about 11 and 12-year-olds or even younger.

00:38:51.500 You don't see them as kids? Well, the answer is they don't.

00:39:00.040 And now you start to get the full picture. Maybe you start to understand what's really going on here.

00:39:05.840 And this is how this all gets wrapped in with the normalization of pedophilia. There's a reason

00:39:10.000 why that is happening. Kids at drag shows and all the rest of it, the sexualization of children, 0.91

00:39:15.400 the normalization of pedophilia. This is all happening at the same time as the gender-affirming 0.94

00:39:20.400 surge or so-called gender-affirming surge. All this is happening. It's all part of the same program.

00:39:28.120 Because you can hear them saying it right there. It's like, well, actually, you know,

00:39:31.140 12-year-olds aren't even children.

00:39:32.260 As you can see, they're setting the stage here.

00:39:41.060 And then let's also keep in mind, and I think it's important to expose the fact that they're lying

00:39:46.200 about the hysterectomies. And I'm glad that we have this investigation that confirms that.

00:39:51.160 But let's also not allow them to make the whole conversation about the hysterectomies.

00:39:58.220 Because it is probably true that most hospitals and clinics in America at least officially don't

00:40:05.340 perform that particular procedure on minors. That's probably the case. At least not officially.

00:40:13.740 But that is only a small portion of the overall picture here.

00:40:24.500 They all do top surgery. They all do double mastectomies on kids. All of them do.

00:40:30.660 That's not any better. So what they're saying is, we will mutilate certain parts of the child's body,

00:40:37.400 but then other parts we wait until right when they turn 18. That is not better at all. That is not

00:40:46.120 a good excuse, not even close to a good excuse. So let's not let, they want the whole conversation

00:40:54.460 to be focused around the hysterectomies because they feel like they're on the safest ground there.

00:41:00.320 Although the whole concept of gender affirming a hysterectomy is horrifying,

00:41:03.180 they know that like generally that is that they do wait till 18 for that.

00:41:09.140 They don't want to talk about the top surgeries. Because they're doing that to 13 year olds.

00:41:16.580 All right. One other thing I've had here on the docket for a while I wanted to mention,

00:41:20.120 a Boeing 737 belonging to Africa's largest airline remained 37,000 feet in the air when it was

00:41:25.260 supposed to be landing at its intended destination earlier this week, reported reportedly because

00:41:29.580 the pilots have fallen asleep. Air traffic control officials attempted to contact

00:41:33.160 the pilots multiple times when they noticed that the Ethiopian Airlines plane flying from Sudan to

00:41:38.200 Ethiopia wasn't descending, but the crew failed to respond. And then it turned out that they had

00:41:43.900 fallen asleep. And eventually they, a few minutes later, they did actually land the plane. Now,

00:41:48.880 the reason I mentioned this, this is actually a serious problem of pilots falling asleep at the

00:41:55.380 wheel as it were. And, you know, you've always had the problem, pilot exhaustion has always been an

00:42:00.360 issue, but especially recently, even more so. And you hear this from pilots. In fact, in this Daily

00:42:05.700 Wire article, they go on to talk about the overall problem of, uh, in the airline industry in America

00:42:10.160 and across the world of pilot, pilot, pilot exhaustion, pilots being overworked. Um, this is a big

00:42:17.560 problem, especially recently. I told you about, you know, a few months ago, I was at an airport and I

00:42:23.020 heard two pilots complaining about this. I was sitting at the airport listening to these two pilots

00:42:27.440 complain about how tired they were and how overworked they were. And I'm listening to this

00:42:31.820 and I'm, I'm becoming a communist on the spot. I'm like, you guys need to organize workers unite.

00:42:36.860 Give me a picket sign and I'll, I'll march with you. Because when it comes to pilots, my attitude is

00:42:41.980 please just give them everything they want, pay them millions of dollars, give them lots of time off.

00:42:47.220 Pete Buttigieg got six months off, uh, for maternity leave, despite not doing anything in his job.

00:42:52.240 I mean, we, airline pilots deserve at least as much mental health breaks. Okay. For them,

00:42:58.800 I say, give them everything they want, meet every demand. I want pilots to be well-rested and happy.

00:43:06.840 That's all I want. I only want well-rested, very happy and satisfied people flying the plane that I'm

00:43:12.740 in, whatever it takes. But the problem is that there, that there is this pilot shortage

00:43:19.140 and, um, which is only, you know, exacerbating the problem of pilot exhaustion. And part of the

00:43:27.520 reason for that we're told is the pandemic, you know, we're still recovering from the pandemic,

00:43:33.740 but it's not actually a pandemic. It's, it's the, the pandemic response as always

00:43:37.340 is contributing to this problem. Um, and what happened? Well, during COVID, you may remember

00:43:45.980 the taxpayers gave as a gift that we had no choice in, we had, we had no choice in this,

00:43:50.920 but we, we were required to give a gift to the airline industry, billions and billions of dollars

00:43:56.360 in airline industry bailout. We were told we had to do this because if we didn't, the airline

00:44:00.800 industry would collapse and then we wouldn't be able to travel anymore. It'd be a total catastrophe.

00:44:05.720 Well, the airline industry, they took all that money and they were supposed to use it to retain

00:44:11.360 staff. That's the reason we gave it to them. So that you didn't have a whole bunch of pilots

00:44:16.180 quitting and everything. You don't have anyone left to fly the planes, but instead they did the

00:44:21.020 exact opposite and they use the money as retirement packages for pilots to, to, uh, incentivize early

00:44:28.360 retirement. And so a whole bunch of pilots just retired and took the money and ran. And now we don't

00:44:33.980 have enough people to fly the planes and the people that are left are being overworked and they're

00:44:39.160 totally exhausted. Um, and you know, eventually there's going to be, there's, there's going to

00:44:47.180 be a plane's going to crash. A lot of people are going to die eventually because of this.

00:44:53.200 And it all goes back as always, you know, it's a combination when, when, when, when bureaucracies

00:44:57.980 collide, we have the airline industry bureaucracy colliding with the, with the government bureaucracy

00:45:03.720 and it creates problems just like this, as always. Let's get now to the comment section.

00:45:09.160 All right, before we get into this, you know, we've been following the dramatic story of

00:45:25.740 Walrus Gate. And I told you yesterday that this scandal goes right to the top. Um, and Ben Shapiro

00:45:30.640 is already getting a lot of heat and, uh, I don't mean to add to it, but, but I am going

00:45:34.500 to add to it because his producer sent me this, this is a totally real, I guess he was, he

00:45:39.440 was asked about at some point about the, the giant Walrus. And, and, um, this is a totally

00:45:44.280 real hot mic moment that was sent to me. I can't tell you who, who, I can't tell you who

00:45:49.600 my source is, but here it is. Hey Ben, do you know where Matt's Walrus is? No. He's getting

00:45:59.540 pretty upset about it. Tell him to get the back to work.

00:46:02.540 That hurts. I, I do. I understand. I actually understand. I take back everything I said

00:46:17.280 at the beginning of the show, the whole monologue. I retract it.

00:46:22.040 I totally understand how the people at the podcast convention felt. It's painful.

00:46:28.080 Uh, let's see. Lutha Sunspell. What the hell was that? The studio is actually physically

00:46:38.780 falling apart at this exact moment. What was that? Hopefully it wasn't the roof caving

00:46:44.240 in. All right. Maybe you'll get to see me die on camera. That'd be an interesting show.

00:46:51.260 Probably my most viewed show ever. And my last one, uh, Lutha Sunspell says, Matt, your analysis

00:46:56.140 of the emptiness, social media, of social media obsession, uh, the emptiness it brings

00:47:00.620 was spot on. I avoided social media for a long time due to having a stalker, but then

00:47:04.380 recently dipped my toe in using pseudonyms. I've noticed just using Twitter can depress

00:47:09.080 me when I get called a bot or a troll. However, you did say women don't quit get over stabbing 1.00

00:47:13.480 their friends in the back until they're 60 or 70. So you're canceled. This is like saying

00:47:16.960 all men are perverts after the eighties because Michael Jackson was, um, I don't think I said

00:47:22.420 all women stab each other in the back. I just, you know, there's, there's a certain like ebb 1.00

00:47:26.380 and flow to female relationships with each other. And that's it. It's an, it's an ebb

00:47:30.540 and flow. I think you would agree. Um, and in terms of social media, yeah, this is the

00:47:36.780 thing. If you, if you, you know, we, we all have this internet addiction. Almost all of us

00:47:43.380 suffer from it to one extent or another. There are a few exceptions, but most of us suffer from

00:47:47.340 if you pull yourself away from it, though, you pull yourself away from like when you're, when

00:47:52.780 you're in, when you're in the flow of it, you, you feel this constant compulsion to pull out the

00:47:58.140 phone, check social media. But if you pull yourself away from it, if you go on vacation or something,

00:48:02.700 you go stay at a, up in a lake house or in a mountain where there's no, where there's no signal

00:48:07.900 and you don't have access to the phone for a week or two weeks, you come back and it's like,

00:48:12.320 you have to almost, you almost are forcing yourself to get back into the internet world.

00:48:15.560 And so you have this moment of clarity where you see how empty and pointless this all is,

00:48:19.880 but then that just, it dissipates pretty quickly and now, and you're sucked right back into it again.

00:48:25.700 It's a sad story, but that's the way it goes. Um, Nana and Epa says, quick question in regards

00:48:31.620 to the mountain backdrop. Will you be changing it for each season? What are you talking about?

00:48:36.140 Well, if the season changes, then obviously you're going to see the background change,

00:48:40.880 the completely real background.

00:48:42.400 Um, Jesse says, did Matt just say clout? You, sir, are unfortunately banned from your own show.

00:48:50.960 Well, no, I think that clout chasing is a useful modern phrase. First of all, clout is not a modern

00:48:55.120 term. Okay. That's existed for a long time, but clout chasing is, it's one of the few modern terms,

00:49:00.580 internet lingo that I'll use because I think it's useful. It's even more useful than a virtue

00:49:05.020 signaling. I think as a term, um, Emily says, Matt, you're a media guy and you come off extremely

00:49:11.680 out of touch on the student loan issue. I'm not a Biden fan at all, but student debt has been a huge

00:49:16.180 problem and I'm grateful for the relief. I think a lot of people feel the same way.

00:49:21.300 Republicans need to change their messaging on this topic ASAP. Okay. Well, you're, so you're,

00:49:27.000 you're what you're saying, your argument, if I can call it that is that you personally benefit from

00:49:33.540 it. You know, you're getting $10,000 shaved off of your loan and you like that because it means you

00:49:39.900 owe less money. And that's your argument. That's not an argument. Like I, I understand that from a

00:49:45.740 kind of self-centered perspective. You're getting $10,000. Okay. But do you see how that's not really

00:49:53.120 an argument? The fact that you personally enjoy getting this money is not, that's, that's not a,

00:50:00.300 that's not a justification for the policy. And that does nothing to address the objections that

00:50:08.280 I and others have raised. And the objections are largely, well, it's a lot, a lot, a lot has to do

00:50:14.900 with the economy, inflation, but it's largely centered around the burden being felt by other people.

00:50:19.980 So you, what you are saying is, well, I personally care more about my own financial security than

00:50:27.300 other people. I get that. But from a policy perspective, you have to take into account

00:50:33.620 everybody, not just you, Emily. As far as Republicans changing their message, I don't,

00:50:41.660 I actually don't disagree with you there. I think one of the reasons why Republicans

00:50:46.820 lose on this topic and so many others, but Republicans are losing on the student loan

00:50:53.960 question, student loan forgiveness. Part of the problem is that Republicans tend to support,

00:51:01.600 you know, reckless spending, bailouts, let's send billions to, to Ukraine. Most Republicans are on

00:51:10.360 board with that. And so they don't have the credibility to criticize this kind of spending.

00:51:15.400 I, you know, Republicans always, Republicans always complain about spending, but when they're

00:51:19.740 actually in charge, they don't do a damn thing about it ever. And so, yes, it does make them less

00:51:25.580 credible when they raise objections to a student loan bailout. But that's just an argument for being

00:51:32.660 more consistent. It's an argument for opposing more forms of government spending, not simply accepting

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00:52:18.380 get to our daily cancellation. Today we cancel the publication called Scientific American. Now the

00:52:28.100 Scientific American has been around for a very long time, since the mid-1800s, in fact. It's one of the

00:52:33.660 very oldest media outlets in the country. And for much of that run, it was considered credible and

00:52:38.300 reputable, a trustworthy source for science-related news. A great number of famous scientists have

00:52:44.020 written articles for it over the years. Even Albert Einstein can be counted among its contributors.

00:52:48.700 But those days are over. Albert Einstein is long dead, and if he were not dead today, he would wish he

00:52:54.380 was, because the far-left religious cult has infiltrated and corrupted nearly everything in society,

00:52:59.700 especially the media and the field of science. So if you combine those two things in a scientific

00:53:06.040 media outlet, you're sure to get the worst of both worlds. And that is certainly the case with

00:53:11.380 Scientific American. Case in point. This week, the outlet debuted the second episode in their

00:53:16.600 docu-series titled A Question of Sex. In a tweet thread about the series, Scientific American makes clear

00:53:23.100 that the purpose of the documentary is to debunk the myth of the two sexes. The myth, they say.

00:53:29.700 Yes, sexual dimorphism, one of the most fundamental concepts in human biology, and something that

00:53:35.580 no credible scientists anywhere in the world, ever in history, have ever questioned, is now a myth.

00:53:42.120 In an article on the website about the documentary, it's explained that the sex binary is false

00:53:47.140 because of the existence of intersex people. We're told, quote,

00:53:51.340 intersex is an umbrella term for variations in reproductive or sexual anatomy that may appear

00:53:55.920 in a person's chromosomes, their genitals or internal organs, and it has been estimated to

00:53:59.760 include about 1.7% of the population. There are more than 30 medical terms for different

00:54:04.560 combinations of sex traits that fall outside of the typical male and female paths of development.

00:54:09.360 The article goes on to explain that the alleged existence of these 1.7% of intersex people

00:54:14.480 throws the whole notion of the sex binary into question.

00:54:17.800 The article ends with a quote from a so-called intersex activist named Sean Seifa Wall, and it

00:54:24.960 says, after all, the fixation on a sex binary in science, Wall points out, doesn't occur in a vacuum.

00:54:32.140 Quote, I think for people asking the question, is your child a boy or a girl, I would really

00:54:36.440 challenge them to just take a moment and ask, why? Why is it so important? Are you just happy to have a

00:54:41.360 baby? Are you just happy to start a family? I think those are quality of life questions that often get

00:54:46.580 overlooked or missed in this conversation. Yes, why do you care if your child is a boy or a girl?

00:54:53.320 Why do you care if your child is human? Why do you care about any of the basic physical details of

00:54:57.760 your child? Why can't you raise and parent him as if he was an ambiguous, nondescript lump of 1.00

00:55:05.100 sentient matter? Pretend that he's just an amorphous puddle of cells and DNA. That's all that matters.

00:55:11.120 Makes perfect sense. A clip from the documentary provides more completely

00:55:16.320 of the imaginary, by the way, details. Let's watch.

00:55:20.060 While gendered social structures are ancient, a binary framework of biological sex didn't actually exist in 0.89

00:55:26.300 Western culture until the late 18th century. Before, science recognized only one sex, the male,

00:55:33.560 and considered the female body an inferior version of it. The shift that historians call the two-sex model 0.75

00:55:40.380 served mainly to reinforce gender and racial divisions by tying social status to the body.

00:55:49.300 Okay, so let's go over a few things here. First of all, we must always keep in mind that the only

00:55:55.280 reason anybody ever talks about intersex is to validate transgenderism. That's the only reason 1.00

00:56:01.940 Scientific American is running this series. It's the only reason they jam intersex onto the pride flag. 1.00

00:56:07.360 It's the only reason they include intersex in the LGBT alphabet soup. Intersex is a medical condition 1.00

00:56:13.260 that has nothing to do with LGBT. But it's included and in fact given pride of place simply because

00:56:20.480 people who suffer from this particular genetic deformity are useful to the trans agenda. 0.88

00:56:25.040 Never mind that trans and intersex have nothing in common and that the existence of intersex people

00:56:30.080 does not even come close to validating the claims and self-perceptions of trans people.

00:56:34.320 But it's important to understand why they're talking about intersex at all because

00:56:37.980 then it makes sense why they lie about it so much. For instance, in the passage from the article that

00:56:44.960 we read, they say 1.7% of people are intersex. Now if you're a person with common sense,

00:56:51.500 you hear that figure and you feel immediately skeptical. 1.7%? Really? I mean that's still a minority

00:57:00.500 percentage-wise, but that would translate to like 6 million people in this country alone.

00:57:06.300 Are there really 6 million intersex people walking around in this country?

00:57:10.880 Well, no. That number is a lie. Because everything these people say is a lie.

00:57:17.480 They lie with abandon about everything all the time.

00:57:22.820 Colin Wright looked into this subject a couple years ago and discovered that the 1.7% figure

00:57:28.960 comes from a book written by a woman named Anne Fausto-Sterling who had an ideological axe to 1.00

00:57:34.060 grind. She wanted to disprove the sex binary and she did it by wildly inflating the number of 1.00

00:57:40.380 intersex people that exist in the world. Reading from Wright's column, it says,

00:57:43.380 they broadly define an intersex person as, quote, an individual who deviates from the platonic ideal of

00:57:50.600 physical dimorphism at the chromosomal, genital, gonadal, and hormonal levels. To arrive at their

00:57:57.040 1.7% figure, they asked how frequently humans deviate from this platonic ideal. In the review,

00:58:03.760 their ideal male is defined as somebody with XY chromosomes, functional testes located in the

00:58:09.760 scrotal sac, a penis between 2.5 and 4.5 centimeters at birth, and a completely enclosed urethra that

00:58:16.600 opens at the tip. The ideal male must also have testes that produce malarian inhibiting factor as

00:58:22.300 well as testosterone and dihydrotestosterone. There we go. And juvenile testicular activity

00:58:28.640 must result in typical masculizing puberty. Their ideal female has two X chromosomes, functional ovaries 1.00

00:58:34.400 that result in normal feminizing puberty, intact oviducts attached to a functional uterus, 0.93

00:58:39.760 cervix, and vaginal canal. The ideal female must also have labia minora and majora present and a 1.00

00:58:45.360 clitoris that ranges from 0.2 centimeters and 0.85 centimeters in length at birth. Okay, you see the

00:58:52.500 problem, hopefully. They are including in their definition of intersex people, people who deviate 0.99

00:59:00.320 from their definition of the platonic ideal, and yet whose sex is not at all ambiguous or in question.

00:59:07.020 So they came up with what they consider to be the platonic ideal of maleness, and anyone who deviates

00:59:14.020 from it slightly is intersex. So a male who is clearly and unambiguously male, and yet has a

00:59:23.680 smaller penis than normal penis, or problems with the testes or the urethra, ends up counted as

00:59:28.520 intersex by their definition. This is just completely ridiculous. And that's why if you apply a more 1.00

00:59:35.200 precise definition of the word intersex, you find that the actual number of intersex people is lower

00:59:40.780 than 0.02 percent. That is 100 times less than the estimate Scientific American provided.

00:59:49.620 And when you realize that the actual intersex population is so minuscule, the attempts to use

00:59:54.700 it as a chainsaw to cut to pieces the sex binary become even more obviously ludicrous. Intersex people 1.00

01:00:01.660 are anomalies. They suffer from an unfortunate medical condition. Their existence does not

01:00:06.500 destabilize or throw into question the notion of biological sex as we've always understood it.

01:00:12.960 We are still left in a world where everybody in principle either has the capacity to get pregnant 0.99

01:00:19.120 or the capacity to impregnate others. Now disease, deformity, or old age may interfere on an individual

01:00:26.320 level with those capacities, but the principle remains. Just a few days ago, I read a story about

01:00:32.640 a two-headed kitten that was born in Arkansas. Now it's an interesting and sort of grotesque medical

01:00:39.060 anomaly, but does it mean that we can no longer say kittens have one head? Must we now define kittens

01:00:46.100 as creatures with multiple heads? Must we start talking about kittens like they're mythical beasts,

01:00:51.340 like a kitten is a hydra from Greek mythology? No, of course not. Now what about the claim in

01:00:58.200 the video that the sex binary didn't exist until the 18th century and before that there was only

01:01:02.040 one sex? Well, that's just pure fiction. That's invented on the spot and with nothing to support it. 0.82

01:01:09.840 Read literally anything, anything at all. I mean, seriously, anything written at any time before the

01:01:16.400 18th century and this claim falls apart all at once. The book of Genesis was written thousands of

01:01:21.420 years ago and yet says at the very beginning, male and female he created them. Indeed, every ancient

01:01:28.760 religion has an account of creation and they all account for the creation of males and females. Not one 0.98

01:01:34.520 sex, not three, not seven, not 52, not an infinite variety, but two. Because that's all there was at the

01:01:41.920 time or is now or ever will be. Now I would say more to debunk this particular claim, but it would

01:01:48.780 be like trying to debunk the claim that watermelons are actually dragon eggs and if you sit on them a

01:01:53.380 baby dragon will hatch. It's just there's not much that can be said to refute a purely fictional claim

01:01:59.980 invented out of whole cloth and with not the slightest bit of evidence to support it, worse than having no

01:02:04.760 evidence actually, all of the evidence we do have, and there's a lot of it, directly flies in the face of

01:02:10.240 what they're saying. Everything we know about ancient history and about past and current non-Western 0.92

01:02:16.100 cultures confirms beyond any shadow of a doubt that the sex binary is not a modern Western invention.

01:02:22.940 Gender fluidity is the modern Western invention. And it's now being peddled by a magazine that once 0.99

01:02:28.900 concerned itself with science, but now would rather tell fables. And for that reason, Scientific American

01:02:36.600 is today canceled. And that will do it for this portion of the show as we move over to the member

01:02:41.220 section. Hope to see you there. If we don't, talk to you on Monday. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - August 26, 2022

Ep. 1010 - Traumatized By Ben Shapiro's Presence

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