The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1025 - We Investigated Our Local Hospital’s Gender Butchery Clinic. Here’s What We Found.

00:00:00.120 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Vanderbilt Hospital is right next door to us here in Nashville,

00:00:04.040 and so we decided that we would investigate their transgender clinic. 0.94

00:00:07.640 Yes, they drug and mutilate children, but it actually gets worse somehow. 0.98

00:00:10.760 We'll talk about that today.

00:00:11.700 Also, Ron DeSantis is under criminal investigation for sending illegals to Martha's Vineyard.

00:00:16.080 What crime did he commit?

00:00:17.140 Well, none, of course, but they're claiming he committed one.

00:00:20.060 And Don Lemon brings up slavery reparations and then promptly gets embarrassed.

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00:01:49.560 So we've spent plenty of time in recent weeks discussing the horrific, unethical, dangerous, and barbaric practices of many hospitals and children's hospitals around the country all being performed under the guise of gender affirmation. 1.00

00:02:03.060 Now, the media has frantically insisted that we have to stop scrutinizing the medical establishment in this way.

00:02:09.140 Even if hospitals are sterilizing and butchering children, the media says we must not offer any critique.

00:02:14.960 Because if we do, we're guilty of incitements and even terrorism.

00:02:19.580 So we have to remain silent, they tell us.

00:02:22.580 But I've never personally been very good at following orders, especially when those orders are delivered by the soulless goblins in the national media.

00:02:29.660 I'm much more inclined to do exactly the opposite of whatever they say.

00:02:33.440 And in fact, all this talk about the Frankenstein butchery happening at our nation's hospitals has made us wonder about the hospital closest to us here in Nashville, Vanderbilt University Medical Center.

00:02:45.340 Is the full name Vanderbilt, we'll just call it for short.

00:02:47.900 Over the past several days, we have investigated the matter.

00:02:51.960 And now I want to show you what we found.

00:02:54.240 And let's begin at the beginning as we tell this story.

00:02:58.160 So in 2018, Vanderbilt opened its Transgender Health Center.

00:03:02.600 There was an article published in the Tennessean at the time that announced the new clinic, quoting its medical director, Dr. Shane Taylor,

00:03:09.460 who said that the goal was to, quote,

00:03:11.840 meet our patients where they are in their journey and help them with the resources they need.

00:03:17.400 But then in a lecture during Vanderbilt's LGBTQ Health Grand Rounds lecture series,

00:03:22.920 which live streamed to Facebook but was viewed by almost nobody at the time,

00:03:27.040 Dr. Taylor was a bit more detailed in explaining the hospital's actual motivations for expanding into, quote unquote, transgender care.

00:03:34.800 In fact, she said that she personally helped to convince the institution to make the move based in part because she claims it's the right thing to do,

00:03:44.260 but also in large part because gender affirmation surgeries are, quote, big moneymakers. 0.88

00:03:49.520 She boasted that a phalloplasty, which is the construction of an artificial penis, 0.99

00:03:54.080 which is made using flesh cut from other parts of the body,

00:03:58.080 she said that those can be worth $100,000 when you factor in all of the follow-ups that are necessary.

00:04:04.360 Listen.

00:04:05.480 Starting in January 1st of 2017, according to the Affordable Care Act,

00:04:11.140 insurance carriers are mandated to cover medical expenses for trans folks.

00:04:14.940 Some of our BUMC financial folks in October of 2016, starting a couple years ago,

00:04:23.780 put down some costs of how much money we think each patient would bring in,

00:04:28.180 and this is only including top surgery.

00:04:30.160 This doesn't include any bottom surgery, and it's a lot of money.

00:04:35.100 These surgeries make a lot of money.

00:04:36.260 So female, it's a male, chest reconstruction, can bring in $40,000. 1.00

00:04:42.800 A patient just on routine hormone treatment, who I'm only seeing a few times a year,

00:04:47.360 can bring in several thousand dollars because it requires a lot of visits and labs.

00:04:50.940 It actually makes money for the hospital.

00:04:53.620 Now, these I got from the Internet, but it's from the Philadelphia Center for Transgender Surgery,

00:04:59.980 which does a lot of surgery for patients, and I just wanted to give you an idea

00:05:04.220 of how much these bottom surgeries are making, and I think this has to be an underestimate.

00:05:10.780 This is for a vaginoplasty.

00:05:13.180 They're quoting roughly around $20,000 for a vaginoplasty,

00:05:17.040 but that doesn't include your hospital stay.

00:05:19.160 That doesn't include your post-op visits.

00:05:21.020 That doesn't include your anesthesia, your OR.

00:05:25.740 So I would think that this has to be a gross underestimate.

00:05:27.940 I think that's just, like, the surgeon's piece of it,

00:05:31.620 which anybody who's ever been to the hospital knows that that's, like, 10% of it.

00:05:37.020 And then the female-to-male bottom surgeries, these are huge moneymakers. 0.88

00:05:41.960 Again, I think this has to be an underestimate that they're quoting around $20,000 for a vaginoplasty.

00:05:47.260 There's been different things that I've read that said it could be up to $100,000.

00:05:51.120 Dr. Winokur, who's our surgeon, said that there's entire clinics

00:05:54.700 where the entire clinic is supported just by their phalloplasties.

00:05:59.100 And that is, like, a fraction of the surgeries that they're doing.

00:06:02.340 These surgeries are labor-intensive.

00:06:04.680 They require a lot of follow-ups.

00:06:06.320 They require a lot of OR time.

00:06:08.380 And they make money.

00:06:09.180 They make money for the hospital.

00:06:10.140 Now, profitable, though it may be, there are some medical professionals

00:06:16.160 who take the Hippocratic Oath seriously and object to carving up a person's body in this way.

00:06:22.720 Vanderbilt was apparently concerned that some of their own staff might fall into that category.

00:06:26.960 So, at another Grand Rounds lecture in 2019, a woman named Dr. Ellen Clayton, 0.96

00:06:32.820 who's a pediatric specialist at Vanderbilt, told those assembled that if they refuse to participate

00:06:38.360 due to their religious beliefs in these procedures, there will be consequences.

00:06:44.320 Conscientious objections are problematic, she explained,

00:06:47.620 and those who object really shouldn't work at Vanderbilt at all.

00:06:51.280 Listen.

00:06:51.420 If you are going to assert conscientious objection,

00:06:57.120 you have to realize that that is problematic.

00:07:02.260 You are doing something to another person,

00:07:05.760 and you are not paying the cost for your belief.

00:07:10.840 I think that is a real, I mean, I think that's a real issue.

00:07:15.420 So, yes, Vanderbilt, if someone has a conscientious objection to participating in this sort of surgery,

00:07:29.760 it would probably have to accommodate you to the extent that you can find another person

00:07:34.640 who can do your job who doesn't have an objection, other things of that nature.

00:07:38.840 But I just want you to take home that saying that you're not going to do something

00:07:45.960 because of your conscientiousness, because of your religious beliefs,

00:07:50.420 is not without consequences, and it should not be without consequences.

00:07:56.780 And I just want to put that out there.

00:07:59.940 We are given enormous, if you don't want to do this kind of work,

00:08:04.820 don't work at Vanderbilt.

00:08:06.120 Now, is it legal to make those kinds of threats?

00:08:10.860 I mean, can she legally promise consequences for those who exercise their First Amendment rights?

00:08:16.320 Well, whether she can legally do that or not, she did.

00:08:19.420 And the point was made clear.

00:08:20.680 Vanderbilt just got into the gender transition game, 0.99

00:08:23.680 and now it is such a central part of its core mission and its business plan

00:08:28.280 that any doctor who objects is not welcome to work in the hospital at all.

00:08:32.500 Yet, even with these warnings, Vanderbilt would seem to be deeply concerned

00:08:37.020 that some of the doctors on their staff might still stick to their bigoted superstitions,

00:08:43.380 like their belief in human biology and that sort of thing.

00:08:46.500 So to solve that problem, they proudly unveiled a First in the Nation, they say, program

00:08:51.620 called TransBuddy.

00:08:53.540 So the TransBuddy program means that trans patients are paired up with an activist from

00:08:58.800 the community who attends appointments with them.

00:09:02.160 The TransBuddy initiative is there to, quote, observe how hospital staff are interacting

00:09:07.340 and to ensure that they're using correct pronouns.

00:09:10.760 A TransBuddy volunteer in the clip will play for you in a second even explains that some medical

00:09:15.300 providers at Vanderbilt are unsafe, and so they require this form of babysitting.

00:09:21.520 Watch.

00:09:21.860 My name is Shawn Riley, and I'm the program coordinator for TransBuddy at the program for

00:09:31.700 LGBTQ health at Vanderbilt University.

00:09:34.900 TransBuddy provides trained peer advocates for transgender patients who are coming for

00:09:39.520 doctor's appointments or other health care related services.

00:09:42.380 Whether you're looking for something that's related to medical transition, such as hormone

00:09:46.000 therapy, or something completely unrelated, like breaking an arm or going to an ENT, we are

00:09:51.240 here to help support any transgender patients that come through our doors.

00:09:56.120 The TransBuddy program was organically created through the efforts of transgender people and

00:10:00.200 continues to consistently be led by trans people in Middle Tennessee.

00:10:04.040 The TransBuddy program is a one-of-a-kind in the nation, and institutions are looking to

00:10:07.860 Vanderbilt to replicate and expand programs like ours.

00:10:11.040 We're not seeking to find solutions often for people's problems, we're just seeking to be

00:10:15.460 there and to accompany and to be a friendly face.

00:10:20.800 And to be a non-medical face in a place where everybody coming in the room is going to be

00:10:26.840 a health care provider and may be unsafe.

00:10:30.880 Sometimes I'm there to be sort of always observing kind of how hospital staff are interacting with

00:10:39.840 individuals and again, you know, using correct pronouns or treating the individual with respect.

00:10:45.900 So this is less a Buddy program than a Big Brother program, though of course they would never use

00:10:50.500 such a gendered term. 1.00

00:10:52.520 And we did check and confirm that Vanderbilt makes their Orwellian Trans Buddies available 1.00

00:10:57.020 to patients of any age, including minors.

00:10:59.880 In fact, a TransBuddy may help shepherd a child through many types of services, all provided

00:11:04.720 by the hospital's pediatric gender clinic.

00:11:07.700 Vanderbilt administers chemical castration drugs, aka puberty blockers, and irreversible

00:11:12.480 hormone therapy to minors.

00:11:14.220 Though sometime in the last month or two, interestingly enough, they removed language from their website

00:11:18.220 explicitly advertising this practice.

00:11:20.400 We had to look it up on the archived version of the website.

00:11:23.060 We found it there, but not the current version.

00:11:24.920 Yet they may have forgotten to delete a video from Vanderbilt Psychiatry's YouTube channel

00:11:29.600 back in 2020, which admits explicitly that they will give and have given irreversible

00:11:35.320 hormone drugs to children as young as 13.

00:11:38.120 Listen.

00:11:39.700 We can provide gender-affirming hormones on an individual who is on a pubertal blocker,

00:11:44.480 depending on whatever kind of blocker they've chosen or we have discussed with them,

00:11:48.620 or they can present to us at a later stage of puberty, and then we provide the gender-affirming

00:11:53.300 hormones.

00:11:53.740 Previously, the Endocrine Society recommended to start these at age 16, but we all know that

00:11:58.660 would be delayed puberty, right?

00:12:00.560 Not 16-year-olds don't start puberty.

00:12:02.800 So more recently, they did update that to say as early as 14 for compelling reasons.

00:12:07.540 So we have some individuals who have started gender-affirming hormones at 13 or 14 to be

00:12:12.020 more like their peers.

00:12:13.480 Again, fertility preservation and consent are very important to discuss prior to any initiation

00:12:18.620 of these.

00:12:18.940 For compelling reasons.

00:12:21.220 And I think we can probably assume that they've never met a reason that was not compelling

00:12:26.700 to them.

00:12:27.560 So after they've drugged and sterilized the kids, Vanderbilt, as explained in this video

00:12:31.420 presentation by plastic surgeon Julian Winokor and physician's assistant Shailen

00:12:35.760 Vanderblomen, at that point they will happily perform double mastectomies on adolescent girls. 1.00

00:12:42.060 So when we talk about the WPATH guidelines, so in order for our patients to really successfully

00:12:50.240 undergo these surgeries, we do, again, follow these guidelines.

00:12:55.240 So a lot of times it's for insurance purposes, but again, insurance is kind of follow suit with

00:13:01.600 the WPATH guidelines for the most part.

00:13:03.340 So for any kind of top surgery, we do require one letter of persistent, well-documented gender

00:13:09.180 dysphoria by a licensed mental health provider.

00:13:12.700 We ensure that the patient is capable of making fully informed decisions on their own.

00:13:18.980 They're the age of majority.

00:13:20.620 However, for a lot of our younger patients, again, if they are 16, 17 here at Vanderbilt,

00:13:27.320 if they have been on testosterone, have a parental consent, we're able to do a lot of

00:13:33.680 the top surgeries for those patients.

00:13:37.500 So let's review.

00:13:39.780 Vanderbilt got into the gender transition game, admittedly, in large part because it's 0.97

00:13:45.780 very financially profitable, and it is.

00:13:48.360 They then threatened any staff members who objected and then enlisted a gang of trans 1.00

00:13:52.400 activists to act as surveillance in order to force compliance. 0.85

00:13:55.520 And they now castrate, sterilize, and mutilate children as well as adults, while apparently

00:14:00.240 taking steps to hide this activity from the public view, which is why we had to sift through

00:14:04.520 web archives and track down videos not available to the general public just to confirm all of

00:14:09.080 this information.

00:14:11.160 We're left in the end, once again, with a stark reality, that the field of medicine has

00:14:15.820 been infiltrated and co-opted by radical ideologues, by left-wing cultists and LGBT extremists.

00:14:23.180 Vanderbilt, like so many other medical institutions, has sacrificed both science and ethics on the

00:14:29.460 altar of gender ideology.

00:14:31.640 And we who object are labeled terrorists.

00:14:35.820 But that is the desperate tactic of a system that knows it is being exposed.

00:14:42.100 We can't allow ourselves to be bullied by those kinds of intimidation tactics and emotional

00:14:48.360 blackmail.

00:14:49.880 We are confronting one of the great evils in human history.

00:14:53.920 There's no question about it.

00:14:56.600 And nobody said it would be easy or painless.

00:14:58.300 And if they did, they were lying.

00:15:00.260 Either way, we have to hold the line.

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00:16:30.700 So Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar in Texas has announced that he is opening up a criminal investigation

00:16:39.700 into the matter of Ron DeSantis sending illegals to Martha's Vineyard.

00:16:44.820 And you may be asking, why is a guy in Texas doing this, number one?

00:16:50.340 What law was broken?

00:16:52.780 What evidence is there that a crime was committed?

00:16:56.100 These are all the questions that you may have, and fortunately, the sheriff is here to not answer any of them.

00:17:02.400 Let's listen.

00:17:02.780 We are opening up a case with an investigation with regard to the suspected activities involving the 48 migrants from Venezuela

00:17:15.960 that, as we understand it at this point, the facts of the case at this point,

00:17:20.820 are that on Wednesday, September 14th, here in Bexar County in the city of San Antonio,

00:17:26.400 our understanding is that a Venezuelan migrant was paid what we would call a bird dog fee

00:17:34.820 to recruit approximately 50 migrants from the area around a migrant resource center on San Pedro here in San Antonio.

00:17:43.240 As we understand it, 48 migrants were lured, and I will use the word lured,

00:17:49.840 under false pretenses into staying at a hotel for a couple of days.

00:17:55.480 They were taken by airplane.

00:17:58.220 At a certain point, they were shuttled to an airplane where they were flown to Florida

00:18:02.820 and then eventually flown to Martha's Vineyard.

00:18:05.660 Again, under false pretenses is the information that we have, that they were promised work.

00:18:10.520 They were promised the solution to several of their problems.

00:18:13.520 They were taken to Martha's Vineyard from what we can gather for nothing,

00:18:19.520 for little more than a photo op, video op.

00:18:22.900 And then they were unceremoniously stranded in Martha's Vineyard.

00:18:29.260 Stranded in Martha's Vineyard.

00:18:31.280 I mean, they were, it's like you might as well drop them on a desert island.

00:18:34.560 They're going to starve to death.

00:18:36.200 Now, he didn't actually explain, and you could keep listening to that,

00:18:40.160 but there's no reason because he doesn't explain what laws were broken,

00:18:43.580 which, you know, if you're launching a criminal investigation,

00:18:45.940 then that's the first thing you should be able to explain,

00:18:47.640 is that we believe this law and that law and that law were broken.

00:18:51.160 That's why we're looking into it.

00:18:52.660 So this is a criminal investigation where even the person conducting the investigation,

00:18:57.600 as far as he knows, no laws were broken.

00:19:00.220 There's no theory here at all of what laws were broken.

00:19:03.700 Daily Wire has the response from the DeSantis camp.

00:19:05.600 It says a spokesperson for DeSantis responded to Salazar's remarks by saying in a statement,

00:19:09.020 immigrants have been more than willing to leave Bexar County 1.00

00:19:12.820 after being abandoned, homeless, and left to fend for themselves.

00:19:16.520 Florida gave them an opportunity to see greener pastures in a sanctuary jurisdiction

00:19:19.900 that offered greater resources for them, as we expected.

00:19:22.920 Unless the Massachusetts National Guard has abandoned these individuals,

00:19:26.680 they've been provided accommodations, sustenance, clothing, and more options to succeed

00:19:30.460 following their unfair enticement into the United States,

00:19:33.180 unlike the 53 immigrants who died in a truck found abandoned in Bexar County this June.

00:19:39.020 I think that gets the point across.

00:19:42.800 You want to talk about luring immigrants, well, yeah, there's the way in which immigrants

00:19:48.340 are lured across the border to begin with by the kind of policies that this sheriff,

00:19:53.680 because he's a Democrat, certainly supports, and we know what happens there.

00:19:59.320 As the statement from DeSantis camp mentions, 53 immigrants is just one example.

00:20:04.260 The many, just like the untold human wreckage that there is because of our open borders policies.

00:20:11.860 Wreckage on that side of the border and this, which has affected both illegal immigrants 1.00

00:20:17.220 and citizens of this country.

00:20:18.800 And that's all because they're lured across the border to begin with.

00:20:25.460 The promises that DeSantis made them was, it wasn't really DeSantis making those promises,

00:20:31.380 it was Martha's Vineyard made the promises.

00:20:35.460 When you declare yourself to be a sanctuary, you're promising to take care of immigrants.

00:20:40.620 And so DeSantis said, well, they said they'd take care of you.

00:20:42.760 So we're bringing you to a very wealthy and very nice, beautiful place where they said they would take care of you.

00:20:46.840 All of that is totally accurate.

00:20:50.240 So what's really happening here?

00:20:51.660 Well, it's simple, obviously.

00:20:52.840 DeSantis had a political victory with this move, and the Democrats know it.

00:20:59.800 So they're seeking the only remedy they ever seek anymore, which is criminal prosecution.

00:21:06.260 That's their retaliation.

00:21:08.880 That's the advantage when you own the system, is that when you get beat,

00:21:12.720 you can always just try to throw somebody in jail for it.

00:21:15.580 What crime did he commit?

00:21:17.640 Well, the actual crime he committed is he embarrassed Democrats.

00:21:20.500 And worse than that, he embarrassed Democrats who live in Martha's Vineyard.

00:21:24.520 And those are the ones you're not supposed to embarrass.

00:21:28.260 So that's the crime.

00:21:30.000 Speaking of people getting embarrassed, this is a great moment on Don Lemon's show,

00:21:34.280 as it's his doomed, unfortunately doomed show, as it staggers towards the end of its run.

00:21:40.120 A great moment, not for Don Lemon himself, but for anyone who happens to watch the clip.

00:21:46.260 I think it's great.

00:21:47.500 So just watch this.

00:21:49.140 Well, this is coming when, you know, all of this wealth and you hear about it comes as England is facing rising costs of living,

00:21:57.820 a living crisis, austerity budget cuts, and so on.

00:22:01.300 And then you have those who are asking for reparations for colonialism,

00:22:06.240 and they're wondering, you know, $100 billion, $24 billion here and there, $500 million there.

00:22:12.600 Some people want to be paid back, and members of the public are wondering,

00:22:16.460 why are we suffering when you are, you know, you have all of this vast wealth?

00:22:20.000 Those are legitimate concerns.

00:22:21.560 Well, I think you're right about reparations in terms of if people want it, though,

00:22:26.260 what they need to do is you always need to go back to the beginning of a supply chain.

00:22:30.080 Where was the beginning of the supply chain?

00:22:32.360 That was in Africa.

00:22:33.480 And when, across the entire world, when slavery was taking place,

00:22:37.460 which was the first nation in the world that abolished slavery?

00:22:40.840 The first nation in the world to abolish it.

00:22:42.860 It was started by William Wilberforce, was the British.

00:22:45.860 In Great Britain, they abolished slavery.

00:22:47.680 2,000 naval men died on the high seas trying to stop slavery.

00:22:54.260 Why?

00:22:54.860 Because the African kings were rounding up their own people. 1.00

00:22:57.760 They had them on cages waiting in the beaches.

00:23:00.060 No one was running into Africa to get them.

00:23:02.060 And I think you're totally right.

00:23:03.460 If reparations need to be paid, we need to go right back to the beginning of that supply chain

00:23:07.760 and say who was rounding up their own people and having them handcuffing cages.

00:23:12.220 Absolutely.

00:23:12.840 That's where they should start.

00:23:14.300 And maybe, I don't know, the descendants of those families where they died

00:23:17.380 in the high seas trying to stop the slavery,

00:23:20.100 that those families should receive something, too, I think, at the same time.

00:23:25.380 It's an interesting discussion, Hillary.

00:23:27.180 Thank you very much.

00:23:28.020 I appreciate it.

00:23:28.920 We'll continue to discuss in the future.

00:23:32.300 It is an interesting discussion.

00:23:34.200 He was so out of his league.

00:23:35.520 He was so out of his league.

00:23:36.840 And he knew.

00:23:37.100 You could see it on his face.

00:23:38.780 You have to actually see the clip.

00:23:40.340 You could see him.

00:23:41.760 He's subtle.

00:23:42.780 But you could tell he's internally panicking because he's thinking, like, this is not the

00:23:46.860 response I was expecting at all.

00:23:48.180 I don't even know what she's talking about.

00:23:49.860 Oh, this is someone who actually knows something about history. 0.99

00:23:52.760 I'm screwed. 0.93

00:23:53.640 And so he bails out of there as fast as he can. 0.98

00:23:55.880 And it's just fantastic.

00:24:01.380 And everything that she's saying, of course, is 100% correct.

00:24:05.240 And I'm glad.

00:24:06.340 It seems like there's been a lot of discussion in recent days and weeks about slavery, which

00:24:15.400 maybe doesn't seem different from any other time because we're constantly talking about

00:24:18.720 it.

00:24:18.780 But the difference now, over the last couple of weeks anyway, is that we're actually talking

00:24:23.440 about the historical realities of slavery rather than the cartoonish sort of version

00:24:30.740 that we give from people like Don Lemon.

00:24:32.060 Because usually, you know, the media, they decide the terms for the discussion of slavery

00:24:37.720 or any historical evil.

00:24:39.740 They set the terms for it.

00:24:41.120 And the terms are always, we're only going to talk about this evil in the context of when

00:24:50.260 white Americans and Europeans were perpetrating it. 0.65

00:24:53.320 That's the only, that's all we're worried about.

00:24:57.740 It seems like with, we had Bill Maher yesterday and now this clip, now it's like we're expanding

00:25:03.300 a little bit.

00:25:04.140 We're finally acknowledging that actually there's more to the story than just that.

00:25:11.120 And this is not a, this is not whataboutism, it's not a gotcha to point out what was previously

00:25:18.540 an unspeakable fact that the ways, the way that Africans ended up on the ships in the transatlantic

00:25:28.360 slave trade is because they were captured and sold by Africans.

00:25:33.380 And that's the reality.

00:25:34.720 I mean, for the most part, Europeans were not wading into the interior of Africa.

00:25:41.120 To take slaves and cart them out. 0.99

00:25:42.600 Now, you might be able to find examples of that, but that is, that would not have been

00:25:46.020 a feasible plan in most cases.

00:25:52.000 And the transatlantic slave trade could not have become what it was if that's the way it

00:25:58.020 worked.

00:25:59.600 No, in fact, you had, you had African kingdoms that were very happy.

00:26:03.960 I mean, they got the slaves, they gathered them together.

00:26:05.720 As she mentions, they had them in cages, sitting there on the beach, waiting for people to stop

00:26:10.280 by and buy them.

00:26:13.480 So if we are going to talk about reparations for slavery, that should be part of it.

00:26:20.460 You know, we need to know, who are, are you descended from, do you descend from a slave

00:26:25.780 or do you potentially descend from one of the people that captured slaves and sold them?

00:26:30.140 Of course, the problem is that almost all of us, if you trace our lineage back far enough,

00:26:37.800 almost all of us are descended both from people involved in perpetrating slavery and from people

00:26:44.960 that were, from people who were victims of it.

00:26:48.800 It's almost every single person on earth.

00:26:50.520 We're descended from both.

00:26:52.180 We have both in our, in our blood.

00:26:53.840 So if you can inherit that guilt, if you can inherit guilt and you can inherit victimhood,

00:27:01.820 then we're in a very confusing situation because we have, we have, most of us have both.

00:27:07.060 We have inherited guilt and victimhood.

00:27:08.880 What do we do with that?

00:27:10.340 Well, I'll tell you what we do with it.

00:27:11.140 We, we move on with our lives and we live in the present.

00:27:15.620 Rather than trying to cash in on the sufferings of our ancestors, sufferings that we did not

00:27:20.160 experience.

00:27:23.840 And it's also true that, um, not only was, um, not only were the British among the first

00:27:31.320 to abolish slavery.

00:27:32.360 I mean, it's one thing to abolish it.

00:27:34.200 There are other places, Haiti, for example, there was a slave riot, rebellion.

00:27:39.100 Um, but it's not just that the British abolished it.

00:27:42.880 It's that they, they went out, they then went out on the high seas and tried to put, put an

00:27:48.200 end to it.

00:27:48.640 They tried to stop it.

00:27:49.600 They tried to stop anyone else from doing it.

00:27:51.420 Um, and they sacrificed their lives in doing so.

00:27:56.520 I mean, they, they fought to get rid of slavery across the entire world.

00:28:00.180 And they did that, uh, you know, against the objections of Arab slave traders, African

00:28:09.600 slave traders, and plenty of white slave traders too. 0.52

00:28:14.200 Yeah.

00:28:14.640 I think I mentioned before when we had this conversation a few weeks ago that, uh, and

00:28:18.160 there are many stories like this, but, um, in particular, you know, the, the, the Arab

00:28:22.760 slave traders were brutal and vicious.

00:28:26.420 And there are many, uh, stories you read about from history where, uh, because the, you know,

00:28:31.720 the British, they were patrolling and, and they were looking out for slave ships.

00:28:35.340 And, uh, if they were on their way, you know, if there was Arab slave traders and they were

00:28:39.700 out on the, on the, on the seas and they, they saw a British ship coming their way, um,

00:28:46.440 they would oftentimes just kill the slaves and dump them overboard so they didn't have

00:28:51.900 to suffer the consequences and they could pretend that they weren't slavers.

00:28:56.880 So that's really what makes Europeans and, uh, you know, uh, unique in their relationship

00:29:04.860 with slavery.

00:29:07.600 What, what makes it unique is actually going out and trying to free people from slavery

00:29:12.180 actively.

00:29:12.800 Yeah, most countries in the world eventually, although some took a while to do it, especially

00:29:19.820 some countries in Africa and, uh, and in the Middle East, but most countries eventually

00:29:24.940 got around to getting rid of slavery.

00:29:26.800 Sometimes it's because there was a slave revolt.

00:29:28.740 Sometimes they, it just, it didn't, it wasn't economically feasible anymore.

00:29:35.220 But when you look at the countries that fought wars over it and people sacrificed their

00:29:40.420 lives to get rid of this institution, well, that's what makes the British unique is what

00:29:46.640 makes America unique.

00:29:49.940 Another note I wanted to make too, and I've seen a few people point this out and I think

00:29:53.720 it's important because, you know, we've seen complaints from Americans about, uh, well,

00:30:01.700 Queen Elizabeth, you know, her funeral yesterday and about all sort of the, the pageantry and all

00:30:07.500 the money that's spent on it.

00:30:08.940 And that's where this conversation started with Don Lemon.

00:30:12.180 Um, and we've seen these complaints of people, you know, Americans kind of scoffing at the

00:30:16.960 way, uh, the British are, are, are weeping over the death of the queen.

00:30:22.180 Well, if you think that looks absurd, if that looks absurd to you, imagine how it appears

00:30:28.320 to them and to everybody else in the world or how it appeared to them when they, you know,

00:30:32.780 looked over at America and saw the same sort of pageantry and over the top weeping and mourning

00:30:39.800 over the death of somebody like George Floyd.

00:30:43.720 Okay.

00:30:44.240 So, yeah, I mean, they, they are weeping and, and, and, and mourning the death of Queen Elizabeth,

00:30:49.900 who's one of the most significant figures of the 20th century and the 21st.

00:30:57.000 But it's not like we don't engage in similar kind of, uh, theatrics here in this country.

00:31:04.180 The difference is just who earns those theatrics.

00:31:09.000 So you could take Queen Elizabeth's, uh, resume and all the ways that she contributed to history

00:31:16.100 and then compare that to George Floyd, who did what exactly?

00:31:19.640 Nothing.

00:31:20.320 I mean, nothing of, of value with his life.

00:31:22.380 He terrorized and victimized members of his own community and then he died high on drugs

00:31:29.520 after trying to pass off a counterfeit bill.

00:31:33.060 We give him monuments.

00:31:35.840 He had multiple memorial services and funerals and people.

00:31:39.860 Remember the, the Minneapolis mayor falling to his knees, weeping at George Floyd's casket.

00:31:46.900 So if it seems silly to you when you see people doing that for Queen Elizabeth and you say,

00:31:50.840 well, they didn't even know her, what are they, what are they crying about?

00:31:54.760 What about hundreds, thousands of people showed up to George Floyd's memorial in tears?

00:32:01.000 Didn't know him, never met him. 1.00

00:32:04.960 And if they ever did meet him, they probably would not have liked him because he was a scumbag criminal. 0.99

00:32:11.460 So just, uh, kind of putting things in perspective there, I think. 0.99

00:32:15.320 We played some clips yesterday from that 60 Minutes interview with, uh, President Biden,

00:32:20.220 but we somehow missed this one.

00:32:21.760 I don't know, this is the best one and, uh, and I don't know how we missed it,

00:32:24.580 but he was asked about his mental acuity.

00:32:27.960 You know, does he have, does he have what he needs mentally?

00:32:30.580 Does he have the mental tools to continue to be president, to run for re-election?

00:32:35.220 And here's his answer.

00:32:37.140 I think this is an answer.

00:32:37.980 You are the oldest president ever.

00:32:42.940 Pretty good shape, huh?

00:32:44.380 Which leads to my next question.

00:32:46.480 You are more aware of this than anyone.

00:32:49.820 Some people ask whether you are fit for the job.

00:32:53.460 And when you hear that, I wonder what you think.

00:32:57.660 Watch me.

00:33:00.720 I mean, honest to God, that's all I think.

00:33:02.820 Watch me.

00:33:03.480 If you think I don't have the energy level or the mental acuity, then, then, you know,

00:33:09.040 that's one thing.

00:33:10.740 It's another thing of just watching and, you know, keep my schedule.

00:33:14.880 Do what I'm doing.

00:33:15.980 I think that, uh, you know, I don't, when I sit down with our NATO allies and keep them

00:33:20.980 together, I don't have them saying, wait a minute, what are you, what are you saying?

00:33:25.120 You know, I mean, it's a matter of, you know, that old expression, the proof of the pudding

00:33:30.060 and the eating.

00:33:30.600 I mean, I, I respect the fact that people would say, you know, you're old.

00:33:36.560 And, but I think it relates to how much energy you have and whether or not the job you're

00:33:42.680 doing is one consistent with what any person of any age would be able to do.

00:33:47.680 How would you say your mental focus is?

00:33:50.780 Well, it's focused.

00:33:51.580 I say it's, I think it's, I haven't, look, I have trouble even mentioning, even saying

00:33:59.980 to myself, my own head, the number of years, I no more think of myself as being as old as

00:34:04.540 I am than fly.

00:34:06.240 I mean, it's just not, uh, uh, I haven't observed anything in terms of, there's not things I

00:34:13.300 don't do now that I did before, whether it's physical or mental or anything else.

00:34:20.460 He reminds me, he reminds me of like a drunk guy at a sobriety checkpoint, trying to convince

00:34:25.440 the cop he's sober.

00:34:27.120 And the more he talks, it's like, dude, you should have just quit.

00:34:31.100 Short and sweet.

00:34:32.160 Oh, when you're in that position, short and sweet.

00:34:34.020 Yeah.

00:34:34.120 Give short answers.

00:34:35.120 The more you talk, the worst it gets.

00:34:36.660 You got Biden like mental acuity. 0.54

00:34:40.400 Come on.

00:34:41.020 No one has more acuity, acuity than this.

00:34:43.560 No one is, I'm the most mental man.

00:34:45.720 Come on.

00:34:48.300 Uh, so that should make you feel good about the state of, uh, the country's in good hands.

00:34:53.220 As we see once again, the only wire has this report.

00:34:55.780 Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, Chrissy Teigen responded to the backlash against her as 1.00

00:35:00.080 she dared critics to do your worst after she recently announced that her miscarriage was

00:35:04.920 actually an abortion. 1.00

00:35:06.660 The 36-year-old hit back at negative comments that started flooding the official Instagram

00:35:10.460 account of Glamour, a magazine that published Teigen's account, or comments rather, about

00:35:14.920 the death of her 20-week-old unborn child named Jack.

00:35:18.960 Teigen took a screenshot of many of the responses, with some calling her a drama queen and a liar,

00:35:23.740 and others accusing her of trying to stay relevant.

00:35:26.100 She then tweeted the message that read, I knew this would happen, and honestly, I've already

00:35:30.360 seen you do your worst, so if this makes you feel better, great.

00:35:33.500 It doesn't make me feel worse, though.

00:35:34.840 The backlash comes following Teigen's comments at the Proper Daily's A Day of Unreasonable

00:35:39.980 Conversation Summit, where she labeled her miscarriage in 2020 an abortion.

00:35:43.960 Teigen shared quite, quote, two years ago when I was pregnant with Jack, John, and my third

00:35:50.060 child, I had to make a lot of difficult and heartbreaking decisions.

00:35:54.360 When I was pregnant with Jack, John, and my third child.

00:36:00.700 Pregnant with, I don't understand that. 0.99

00:36:02.000 It became very clear on halfway through that he would not survive and that I wouldn't either

00:36:06.620 without any medical intervention.

00:36:08.380 Let's just call it what it was.

00:36:09.460 It was an abortion. 1.00

00:36:10.240 An abortion to save my life for a baby that has absolutely no chance.

00:36:13.660 And to be honest, I never ever put that together until actually a few months ago.

00:36:17.420 I told the world we had a miscarriage.

00:36:18.700 The world agreed we had a miscarriage.

00:36:19.700 All the headlines said it was a miscarriage.

00:36:21.220 And I became really frustrated that I didn't in the first place say what it was.

00:36:25.040 And I felt silly that it had taken me over a year to actually understand that we had an

00:36:27.940 abortion.

00:36:28.300 So this is a bizarre story in many ways.

00:36:30.600 And let me just say to begin with that, you know, you get this from celebrities all the

00:36:36.320 time, especially from Chrissy Teigen.

00:36:39.240 She kind of specializes in this, where they'll announce something personal about their lives

00:36:46.200 that nobody asked them to announce they didn't have to say it, but they tell the world and

00:36:52.960 then people have opinions about it and they get offended and they play the victim.

00:36:58.540 The thing is, once you have presented something to the world, information you didn't have to

00:37:05.880 present, once you've done that, then people are going to have opinions because people have

00:37:10.500 opinions about everything.

00:37:11.380 Any piece of information someone comes across, they form, they have a perspective that they

00:37:16.420 bring to it and they're going to have their own perspective.

00:37:19.300 And so if you don't want anyone's perspective on a personal detail about your life, don't

00:37:24.940 tell anybody.

00:37:26.320 And that's even more the case when you're using something from your life and you're injecting

00:37:32.420 it into a contentious subject like abortion.

00:37:38.500 So you are drawing this connection.

00:37:40.060 You're bringing this up to the public.

00:37:43.360 And then you play the victim and also the hero, do your worst, everyone making names.

00:37:48.060 It's like, what do you think was going to happen?

00:37:49.360 Well, you knew that was going to happen.

00:37:51.500 And it also, it doesn't make any sense.

00:37:53.760 Now, I don't know.

00:37:55.300 I don't know exactly what happened with this pregnancy and how it ended.

00:37:59.560 I don't know.

00:38:00.040 I wasn't there.

00:38:01.680 What I do know, though, is as she admits, as she acknowledges, she announced that it was

00:38:05.660 a miscarriage and she even, if I remember correctly, there were pictures that she took

00:38:10.980 of her cradling her child, who was deceased, in her arms.

00:38:15.680 And she posted the pictures and said, we had a miscarriage.

00:38:18.260 It's a terrible thing.

00:38:18.960 It is a terrible thing.

00:38:19.940 You know, we've been through this in my family and it's awful.

00:38:23.700 So that's what we know.

00:38:26.100 And now she says, well, I didn't realize at the time that it was an abortion.

00:38:29.740 Well, what?

00:38:31.460 How could you not realize something was an abortion if that's what it was?

00:38:35.340 Because, well, an abortion is the intentional direct destruction of the child.

00:38:40.640 It's like you go in and kill the child. 0.76

00:38:42.820 That's what an abortion is. 1.00

00:38:43.720 And also, I've never heard of an abortion.

00:38:47.520 I mean, now we get very grim and dark when thinking about this, but have you ever heard

00:38:51.120 of an abortion where they kill the child and then give the child's dead body to you to 0.80

00:38:57.680 take pictures with it?

00:38:58.660 That doesn't happen in an abortion clinic. 1.00

00:39:02.200 So none of this makes sense.

00:39:03.460 And certainly, if you had the child directly killed through abortion, you would know it.

00:39:09.160 But there's no looking back on it two years later and saying, oh, you know what?

00:39:14.680 Maybe that was an abortion. 1.00

00:39:15.740 There's no confusion about what's happening.

00:39:20.440 So it seems to me what has happened here, if I'm to make sense of this, and again, we

00:39:27.200 all are within our rights to try to make sense of it.

00:39:29.620 She's the one who's presented this to the world.

00:39:31.400 She didn't have to, and she did.

00:39:32.180 So it seems to me what's happened is that there was a terrible health complication with

00:39:39.380 the child.

00:39:40.700 They had to deliver the child early, too early for the child to survive.

00:39:46.500 And he died, tragically.

00:39:50.340 It seems like that's what happened.

00:39:51.720 And then that also explains how we had the pictures of her holding the child.

00:39:57.000 But that's not an abortion, though.

00:39:59.080 See, this is the point.

00:40:00.500 That is not an abortion. 1.00

00:40:03.040 I mean, there are times, and we've always acknowledged this, there are times when there

00:40:07.160 could be a medical crisis in the middle of a pregnancy, something that affects the child

00:40:12.220 or the mother, and it becomes clear that the pregnancy cannot continue.

00:40:16.560 The pregnancy has to be ended in order to preserve the life of the mother. 0.90

00:40:20.140 That can certainly happen.

00:40:21.280 It's not common.

00:40:22.000 It's rare.

00:40:22.280 But it does happen.

00:40:22.920 Well, if you end the pregnancy by delivering the child without first killing the child 0.85

00:40:30.900 intentionally, that's a delivery.

00:40:33.080 That is not an abortion. 1.00

00:40:34.360 An abortion, by definition, is the direct, intentional, physical killing of the child.

00:40:40.180 If that does not happen, then there was no abortion.

00:40:43.240 And if you have to deliver a child early to preserve the life of the mother, knowing almost 0.92

00:40:47.660 certainly that the child will not be able to survive being delivered that early, that's

00:40:52.400 still not an abortion. 0.99

00:40:54.120 That's the principle of double effect.

00:40:55.760 That is, you know, you're taking an action, you're delivering the child, not intending

00:41:01.640 at all to kill the child, but yet that ends up being a result of that action.

00:41:06.620 But that's not your intention.

00:41:07.640 That's not why you're doing it.

00:41:08.500 You're doing it for a good reason, to preserve the mother's life. 0.96

00:41:10.780 So it's an act of preservation.

00:41:13.920 It's not murder.

00:41:17.440 So that is what would make sense of this to me.

00:41:19.640 But then, so why are you coming back two years later and saying, you know what, I'm

00:41:22.520 counting that as an abortion? 0.63

00:41:25.440 It would really seem like you're using this terrible tragedy that happened to you and your

00:41:29.220 child to make a political point.

00:41:34.640 All right, before we get to the comment section, here's a clip I want to show for you.

00:41:37.820 This is from Amazon's Lord of the Rings show that has gone, it's kind of gone viral and

00:41:43.400 some people are talking about it.

00:41:45.060 I still haven't seen the show and I don't plan on it because I do judge it and dismiss

00:41:50.580 it based entirely on this scene.

00:41:52.420 I wasn't excited about watching it in the first place.

00:41:54.200 I was kind of thinking about maybe I'll sit down and watch it.

00:41:57.460 I saw this scene and on this basis alone, I'm not watching the show.

00:42:01.620 I know that might seem, well, how can you judge a show based on one scene?

00:42:04.820 I think actually you can.

00:42:05.840 So, let's just go through, let's watch this clip together.

00:42:09.820 Go ahead and play it.

00:42:13.220 All right, so you got four guards in suits of armor and they take this girl out of the 0.99

00:42:19.020 cell.

00:42:19.260 I think, who is that?

00:42:20.360 Galadriel or something?

00:42:22.180 Is that her name?

00:42:23.060 Step forward.

00:42:25.140 Oh, she's not looking happy.

00:42:26.960 She's looking very intimidating.

00:42:28.920 What's going to happen?

00:42:29.720 They're surrounding her.

00:42:30.600 What's going to happen now?

00:42:31.440 Oh, she knows what she's going to do.

00:42:37.640 Oh, she pushes the guy away and she slaps the other guy. 1.00

00:42:41.500 Now we cut away.

00:42:42.240 What's happening?

00:42:42.800 What's happening?

00:42:43.800 If you knew exactly where she was going.

00:42:46.280 And now she's shoving all the guards into a jail cell. 1.00

00:42:50.980 Because she's very pleased with herself as she walks off.

00:42:52.860 Girl power. 0.99

00:42:53.780 That's girl power. 1.00

00:42:54.620 Okay.

00:42:55.880 So that's the scene.

00:42:56.580 Now, let's go through this again.

00:42:59.500 She comes out, surrounded by four guards, all bigger than her, fully armored.

00:43:05.040 And they go to put handcuffs on her. 1.00

00:43:07.480 She pushes one away.

00:43:09.080 And then the camera cuts away.

00:43:10.780 And next thing you know, she's pushing them all single file into a cell. 0.99

00:43:14.840 A cell that, by the way, was just closed.

00:43:16.840 So she had to open the cell.

00:43:19.000 I don't know how.

00:43:19.540 The camera cut away for five seconds.

00:43:21.440 I don't know how she did all this in five seconds. 0.87

00:43:22.840 But somehow, she was able to physically defeat four guys that were surrounding her in five seconds.

00:43:29.220 And shoved them all into a jail cell.

00:43:32.520 So she had to open the cell that was just closed.

00:43:34.920 She had to go and open it.

00:43:36.140 And then, I guess, with one hand, she's opening a cell.

00:43:37.900 And with another hand, she's shoving four guys into the cell. 0.76

00:43:44.960 How was that?

00:43:45.520 Were they just waiting there?

00:43:46.660 Were they sitting around waiting?

00:43:49.160 One attack?

00:43:49.840 So this is what you usually see.

00:43:50.880 Now, this is a common thing in action films, I admit.

00:43:52.960 But it's even more common if it's an action scene where the woman, where it's the kick-ass, what we're doing, the kick-ass woman routine. 1.00

00:43:59.420 What you'll find is that there's some chivalry on the part of the bad guys.

00:44:02.900 Because what they'll usually do is, even if there's 20 of them surrounding her, they'll only attack one at a time.

00:44:09.740 And if they get hit once, they're out.

00:44:12.240 So the one goon attacks, gets kicked once in the face.

00:44:16.720 And he just lies down.

00:44:17.840 He's not going to get up again.

00:44:18.540 And then another guy goes, and another guy goes.

00:44:21.580 Very polite.

00:44:23.200 And in this case, you've got to give some credit again to the bad guys, that they were polite, not only in not attacking her all at once, but actually when she opened the cell door and said, get in a single file line.

00:44:34.380 And they did.

00:44:35.220 And she just coaxed them in, and they just walked in, into the cell.

00:44:39.940 That's a wonderful scene.

00:44:44.080 Yes, on that, I don't, you don't need to tell me anything else about the show.

00:44:47.520 And I know there are going to be people, how could you dismiss the show?

00:44:49.340 That's one scene.

00:44:50.740 No.

00:44:52.600 I mean, that scene tells me, it might be an okay show.

00:44:55.160 It might be fine.

00:44:56.780 That's kind of what I'm hearing about the Lord of the Rings show.

00:44:58.520 It's fine.

00:44:59.080 It's a fine show.

00:45:00.000 But fine is not good enough when your source material is one of the great, you know, works of fantasy of all time.

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00:46:40.620 JS says, not only is this teacher aroused by the thought of himself as a woman, he's also aroused by the idea of dragging these kids into his sex fantasy like a flasher would be. 0.63

00:46:49.900 This is creepy. 0.99

00:46:51.480 Yeah, you're right, and that's also an important point with this teacher in Canada yesterday with the big giant fake breasts that he was wearing to school. 0.96

00:46:59.240 So it's a fetish, as we talked about. 0.77

00:47:01.940 This is not dysphoria, okay? 0.98

00:47:04.420 This is not like he sees himself as a woman with breasts the size of watermelons. 0.60

00:47:13.260 No, this is just, this is a fantasy. 0.96

00:47:14.840 He likes to see himself that way.

00:47:16.220 But apparently for him, part of the fantasy is not only dressing this way, but dressing this way in front of kids.

00:47:26.000 And the other point, I think, I don't know if anyone makes this in the comments section to read here, but it's also relevant to point out this is a shop teacher.

00:47:33.100 And I can remember shop class when I was a kid, and there are all kinds of safety regulations, like one of them is don't wear really loose-fitting clothing, that sort of thing.

00:47:43.440 So there is no way that these enormous hot air balloon size fake breasts are up to code for the safety codes in shop class. 1.00

00:48:00.440 They're putting everything else aside.

00:48:03.360 How is it at all, how is that allowed on the grounds of safety to wear those things in shop class?

00:48:11.180 There's even a video, I think we played the video yesterday.

00:48:12.820 Anyway, he's showing the kids how to use a, he's using a circular saw with these enormous fake prosthetic breasts on. 0.89

00:48:22.660 Mac Brown says, not going to lie, every single one of my friends back in high school would have been crying, trying to contain their laughter during every single class, even the ones that ended up being extremely left-wing.

00:48:32.620 There were just certain things we all agreed were hilarious back in the distant days of the early 2000s, and beach ball-sized fake breasts were definitely one of them.

00:48:39.840 Pretty sure we would have all been tarred, feathered, and crucified under today's standards.

00:48:43.960 I did have the same question.

00:48:45.060 Now, you know, you have to put yourself in the kids' shoes here, and they're in a different environment, right?

00:48:51.740 And it's not fair that they're put in this position at all.

00:48:54.880 It's obviously really awkward and embarrassing for them.

00:48:56.940 But they're also in an environment where they've been told that if they laugh about it, then that's a hate crime, and they could get expelled from school probably to deny someone's lived experience and their gender identity.

00:49:09.120 So that's the world that they're in.

00:49:10.320 So we don't blame them for not laughing hysterically, but it is just another sign of the times.

00:49:16.740 Yeah, I can only imagine when I was in high school, the same time period, early 2000s, a male teacher walks in and one of those, we would not be, it would be, in some ways, it would be the greatest thing that ever happened.

00:49:31.620 Because we would not stop laughing about it.

00:49:33.840 We would, you would, if that happened to your freshman in high school, that's, you'd be laughing about that until your graduation and beyond.

00:49:41.500 And that, in fact, is the appropriate response to absurdity.

00:49:50.940 And I know the left would say, well, that's bullying.

00:49:52.980 You shouldn't laugh at someone.

00:49:54.440 No, you should.

00:49:56.400 When someone is being absurd like that, and it's a lot of other things besides absurd, it's perverse and abusive and everything else, but it's also absurd.

00:50:05.840 And the appropriate response to absurdity is to laugh at it.

00:50:09.640 We should actually teach our kids to laugh at it.

00:50:13.740 You should teach your kid.

00:50:15.180 I would be, if I had a kid in class, if I had a kid in school, teacher comes in like that, first, I would be proud of my child for laughing. 0.75

00:50:24.780 If they pointed and laughed and said, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen, I would be so, I would be proud of them.

00:50:30.080 I'd take them out for ice cream afterwards and say, yes, that's exactly the way to respond. 0.98

00:50:33.400 And the next time you see someone dressed like that, do exactly the same thing again.

00:50:37.300 That is the correct response.

00:50:38.840 Correct.

00:50:40.280 But the next thing I'd be doing as the parent is I'd be marching down to the school and saying, get that pervert out of the classroom. 0.99

00:50:51.500 Okay, no, you are not going to have a teacher acting out their sex fetish in front of my child. 1.00

00:50:57.860 That's not going to happen.

00:50:58.820 So that's the other question I have, where are the parents here?

00:51:02.860 And maybe they showed up, we don't really know, but it is Canada, so I have my doubts.

00:51:09.020 I mean, every parent in that school should be showing up at the school and saying, fire that person. 0.97

00:51:18.500 Don't let them anywhere near my kid again.

00:51:19.820 Let's see, Jarcher says, that granny is on par with rap legends such as Pooh Shiesty and Spot'em Got'em. 1.00

00:51:30.600 Truly wonderful.

00:51:31.400 I would put her, I think she's in the conversation.

00:51:33.220 Yeah, the rapping right-wing pro-life grandmother from yesterday. 1.00

00:51:38.060 I'd put her, if we're going to start ranking, and I know this gets controversial, you start ranking the greatest rappers of all time.

00:51:43.560 I don't pretend to be necessarily an expert on the subject, but I think if we're doing a top five, you know, you got your Pooh Shiesty, you got Spot'em Got'em.

00:51:51.360 That's my number one and two.

00:51:52.920 I'm putting rapping granny at probably number three all time. 1.00

00:51:58.920 Takashi 6'9", he's number four.

00:52:02.780 And those are all the rappers I could name.

00:52:04.300 The time is upon us for another Backstage, which is happening tonight at 6 p.m. Central, 7 p.m. Eastern.

00:52:10.220 And it's about time because there's more news than ever to discuss.

00:52:13.280 If you've never seen Backstage before, it's where I get together with my Daily Wire cohorts, Ben Shapiro, Michael Knowles, Andrew Klavan, and God King Jeremy Boring.

00:52:21.460 I like that.

00:52:21.940 They're my cohorts.

00:52:23.520 That's the hierarchy we're establishing for this read, which is good.

00:52:27.380 We have a roundtable discussion on the most burning topics of the day.

00:52:30.420 Jokes will be cracked.

00:52:31.340 Cigars will be smoked.

00:52:32.280 Libations will be imbibed.

00:52:33.600 Plus, we'll be reuniting with our good friend Candace Owens, who's back with exciting news and ready to tick off leftists more than ever.

00:52:39.560 You definitely don't want to miss this one.

00:52:40.760 So tune in to join us for Backstage tonight at 6 p.m. Central, 7 p.m. Eastern at dailywireplus.com.

00:52:46.280 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:52:52.180 Well, Jack Turbin is a prominent doctor and professor who's amassed many academic and professional accolades.

00:52:58.960 He's published studies and written pieces for the New York Times, the Washington Post, many other outlets. 1.00

00:53:04.740 He's also a moron. 1.00

00:53:06.120 And worse than a moron, in fact, Jack Turbin merely pretends, I think, to be stupid and confused. 1.00

00:53:12.100 He's one of the medical community's most outspoken advocates for child gender transition. 1.00

00:53:16.480 He pushes to have children sterilized and castrated as young as possible.

00:53:19.920 He claims that puberty blockers are completely reversible, which is a lie.

00:53:23.840 He claims that they merely put puberty on hold, which is also a lie.

00:53:27.220 He downplays the risk that children may come to regret the irreversible changes made to their body during, quote, transition.

00:53:33.760 He absurdly insists that refusing to mutilate or drug a gender-confused child is a form of conversion therapy. 0.99

00:53:40.300 Now, if Turbin really believed all of this, he would be a moron, and that's what he would be. 1.00

00:53:46.020 But, you know, it's simply one of the dumbest human beings walking the face of the earth, in fact, is what he would be. 1.00

00:53:51.340 But to focus merely on the idiocy of the gender ideology brigade is to ignore their abject wickedness. 1.00

00:53:59.260 Jack Turbin may be a profoundly stupid man, but let that not distract us from the fact that he's also deeply evil and dishonest. 1.00

00:54:07.540 And yet, this stupid, bad, evil, dishonest fraud has credentials, lots of them. 1.00

00:54:15.040 What he lacks in brain cells and integrity, he makes up for with degrees. 1.00

00:54:19.480 That was essentially the point yesterday when he tweeted, quote,

00:54:22.520 four years at Harvard, five years at Yale, three more years at Harvard, two years at Stanford,

00:54:27.680 but Karen has some thoughts about sex chromosomes. 1.00

00:54:31.280 Now, his point is simple.

00:54:33.240 Well, how dare you peons approach him with talk of biology and chromosomes and the binary nature of sex?

00:54:40.900 Jack Turbin spent nearly a decade and a half in Ivy League schools.

00:54:44.680 He knows more than you.

00:54:46.480 At least he has lots of very expensive pieces of paper framed and hanging on his wall,

00:54:50.720 declaring that he knows more than you.

00:54:52.600 But in reality, of course, Jack Turbin studied in our country's most prestigious academic institutions

00:54:57.180 for nearly 15 years and yet knows less about biology than my three-year-old daughter,

00:55:02.900 which is not something he should be bragging about.

00:55:06.040 But this is all the gender ideology side has going for it. 1.00

00:55:09.020 They do not have truth or common sense or rationality or moral decency.

00:55:12.760 Their views are so insane that they won't even try to defend them publicly.

00:55:16.860 They advocate for things that are so horrific and brutal that they'll accuse you of incitement simply for talking about it.

00:55:23.800 As if to say, like, we know that this thing that we're doing is so terrible that if people see it,

00:55:28.080 they're just going to instinctively react violently to it.

00:55:32.880 They try to hide behind the shield of credentialism,

00:55:36.280 hoping that you'll surrender your common sense and submit to their agenda based simply on their academic resumes.

00:55:41.100 They make wild, indefensible claims and expect that you will agree or at least shut up and acquiesce

00:55:47.820 because they have letters after their names and you don't.

00:55:51.560 They try to make very simple things seem very complicated

00:55:54.860 so that you will be convinced that only scholars and academics are qualified to discuss them.

00:56:01.140 And that brings us finally to a recent article in The Atlantic titled,

00:56:05.200 Separating Sports by Sex Doesn't Make Sense.

00:56:07.740 Yes, author Maggie Mertens in The Atlantic has declared

00:56:11.420 that the thing which made sense to everyone everywhere since always

00:56:15.260 actually doesn't make sense at all.

00:56:17.760 And she will enlist a couple of academics to help convince you, 1.00

00:56:20.620 hoping you won't notice how stupid they all sound. 1.00

00:56:22.940 So she writes, quote, 1.00

00:56:24.320 School sports are typically sex segregated.

00:56:26.820 And in America, some of them have even come to be seen as either traditionally for boys or traditionally for girls.

00:56:32.180 Think football, wrestling, field hockey, volleyball.

00:56:34.380 However, it's becoming more common for these lines to blur,

00:56:38.060 especially as Gen Zers are more likely than members of previous generations

00:56:41.340 to reject a strict gender binary altogether.

00:56:45.780 Yeah, I wonder why Gen Z is rejecting a gender binary.

00:56:48.760 Could it be because they've been told from birth that there is no binary?

00:56:53.060 We often hear this from the left.

00:56:54.340 I mean, I heard it when we were filming What is a Woman?

00:56:56.280 We got this a lot that, well, look at Gen Z. 0.99

00:56:58.720 You know, they get it.

00:56:59.520 Let's follow their lead.

00:57:00.860 They're taking the lead on this.

00:57:02.040 But first of all, I'm not inclined to follow the lead of a generation that's been on this planet 1.00

00:57:08.060 the shortest amount of time and knows the least about it.

00:57:11.020 But also, Gen Z is only following, 1.00

00:57:13.700 they themselves are following the lead of the people who indoctrinated them.

00:57:18.720 So the indoctrinators are indoctrinating Gen Z

00:57:21.720 and then turning around and saying,

00:57:23.120 Look at that, Gen Z, there you get it. 1.00

00:57:24.480 I mean, if they can see it, then why can't all you people?

00:57:27.360 Well, it's because they're just parroting what you told them.

00:57:33.720 Continuing, it says,

00:57:35.020 Maintaining this binary in youth sports reinforces the idea that boys are inherently bigger,

00:57:39.360 faster, and stronger than girls in a competitive setting,

00:57:42.320 a notion that's been challenged by scientists for years.

00:57:45.360 Decades of research have shown that sex is far more complex than we may think.

00:57:50.780 Challenged by scientists?

00:57:52.500 What scientists?

00:57:53.160 Now, Mertens links to a study that she, of course, assumes nobody will take the time to read.

00:57:58.360 It was co-authored by a woman named Sari Van Anders,

00:58:01.160 who is described in her online bio as,

00:58:03.700 quote, a leader in feminist bioscience,

00:58:06.900 along with Zach Scudson, who's a doctoral student in women's studies.

00:58:10.400 So these are the people, two other authors on the study as well with similar credentials.

00:58:14.840 But the study itself says nothing, proves nothing,

00:58:17.920 and simply talks in circles, often contradicting itself.

00:58:20.640 For example, it begins by establishing that sex and gender are, quote,

00:58:25.860 overlapping, yet they are distinct categories.

00:58:29.100 But then the study ends with this sentence in their conclusion.

00:58:32.540 One may therefore question the use of biology to justify ongoing segregation by gender slash sex,

00:58:38.680 because biology does not support a gender binary,

00:58:41.720 and instead highlights that sex is multifaceted.

00:58:45.060 Wait, biology does not support a gender binary,

00:58:51.620 but highlights that sex is multifaceted?

00:58:54.980 But those are two different things you just, you said.

00:58:57.000 Those are two different categories.

00:58:59.100 See, this is the trick.

00:59:00.280 Gender and sex are two different concepts in one moment,

00:59:03.400 and in the next, they're used interchangeably.

00:59:05.700 It's all nonsense meant to confuse rather than enlightened.

00:59:08.740 Enlightened.

00:59:09.140 They can't prove any of their assertions,

00:59:11.760 but they can attempt to make you so confused

00:59:13.660 that you just give up and stop challenging their ideas.

00:59:17.020 The article continues, quote,

00:59:18.920 And though sex differences in sports show advantages for men,

00:59:21.660 researchers today still don't know how much of this is attributed to biological differences

00:59:26.820 versus the lack of support provided to women to reach their highest potential. 0.98

00:59:32.360 Quote,

00:59:32.760 Science is increasingly showing how sex is dynamic.

00:59:36.160 It has multiple aspects and also shifts.

00:59:38.360 For example, social experiences can actually change levels of sex-related hormones,

00:59:42.720 like testosterone in our bodies,

00:59:44.240 in a second-to-second and month-to-month way.

00:59:46.260 Sari Van Anders, the research chair in social neuroendocrinology

00:59:49.680 at Queen's University in Ontario, told me by email.

00:59:52.780 The insistence on separating sports teams strictly by sex is backwards,

00:59:55.940 argues Mikela Musto,

00:59:57.420 an assistant sociology professor at the University of British Columbia,

01:00:00.120 who has studied the effect of the gender binary on students and young athletes.

01:00:03.580 Quote,

01:00:04.080 Part of the reason why we have this belief that boys are inherently stronger than girls,

01:00:07.640 and even the fact that we believe that gender is a binary,

01:00:10.340 is because of sport itself, not the other way around.

01:00:13.120 She told me by phone.

01:00:14.440 The strict sex segregation we've instilled in sports at all levels

01:00:17.180 gives the impression that men and women have completely different capabilities,

01:00:20.340 but in reality, she said,

01:00:21.660 the relationship between sex and athletic capability is never so cut and dried.

01:00:26.380 So this is what they're going with.

01:00:27.620 There are no inherent differences between the sexes,

01:00:31.040 but if there are, it's only because of social conditioning.

01:00:35.000 It is social conditioning which makes men, on average, faster, stronger, quicker.

01:00:40.120 Social conditioning gives men better endurance.

01:00:43.100 I suppose we can assume that social conditioning also makes men taller.

01:00:47.260 I mean, that's one of the reasons they have an advantage in some sports like basketball,

01:00:50.440 is that, on average, they're a lot taller.

01:00:52.060 Is that because of women having had the support they need from society to grow taller? 1.00

01:00:59.060 There are literally hundreds of physical differences between the sexes.

01:01:02.740 It's not just a matter of testosterone levels.

01:01:05.220 The differences encompass height, weight, bone density, muscle mass, etc.

01:01:09.580 All of these differences give men the edge in competitive sports.

01:01:12.800 Are these all social conditioning?

01:01:14.040 Is it a lack of support in athletic programs that leads to women having lower bone mass? 1.00

01:01:20.200 Thus, by the way, making them more susceptible to injury?

01:01:23.780 Does that also explain why similar physical differences between males and females can be observed in the animal kingdom,

01:01:29.380 especially among mammals?

01:01:31.820 See, this is the thing that the people who challenge the sex binary always ignore.

01:01:36.260 They ignore nearly all of the other life forms on the planet.

01:01:39.660 I mean, at one moment, they're quick to remind us that, oh, we're just an animal like any other.

01:01:44.900 You know, we're nothing special.

01:01:47.240 But then when it comes to biological sex, they put us in a completely different...

01:01:50.300 We're the only species that doesn't have biological sex.

01:01:52.480 They never deny it in any other species.

01:01:55.440 And all of these facts, which they ignore, help to explain why a group of talented middle school boys could dominate a WNBA team.

01:02:03.100 Why the fastest woman at the Olympics has never been faster than the fastest man at the Olympics in any race or event ever in history.

01:02:11.360 Why men dominate women athletically in nearly every measurable category, in nearly every sport, and always have since time immemorial.

01:02:18.680 Why, in fact, every human society since the dawn of man has organized themselves around a recognition of the difference between the sexes,

01:02:26.360 and has tasked men with taking on the more physically challenging and dangerous roles.

01:02:30.180 Now, it's not that men are conditioned that way.

01:02:33.900 It's that they are this way.

01:02:35.320 They are bigger and stronger.

01:02:36.600 And societies have recognized that and utilized those characteristics in a way that makes sense.

01:02:42.680 Which is why you go all the way back to, you know, primitive times.

01:02:47.240 And what you're going to find is that, in most cases, the men are going out hunting, and the women are at home taking care of the home. 0.87

01:02:54.800 So, you aren't going to find cases where it's flipped around, and the men are the homemakers, and the women are the ones who go out hunting. 0.61

01:03:02.360 That wouldn't make any sense, because every society has noticed, well, these are the bigger, stronger people with more endurance, and so obviously they should be doing that.

01:03:08.760 We're the only ones who have been confused about the subject.

01:03:14.380 Only we're not really confused.

01:03:15.620 The truth is still plain as day.

01:03:18.120 It's just that the difference is that now we have a whole army of highly educated quacks and frauds trying to make us confused. 1.00

01:03:25.720 And that is why they, and especially, whatever her name is, I forget her name now, at the Atlantic, are today canceled.

01:03:36.500 And that will do it for this portion of the show as we move over to the members block.

01:03:39.800 Hope to see you there.

01:03:40.500 If not, talk to you tomorrow.

01:03:41.920 Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 20, 2022

Ep. 1025 - We Investigated Our Local Hospital’s Gender Butchery Clinic. Here’s What We Found.

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