Ep. 1025 - We Investigated Our Local Hospital’s Gender Butchery Clinic. Here’s What We Found.
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Summary
Vanderbilt University Medical Center opened a transgender clinic in the early 90s, and within a few years, it was widely reported that it was a place where trans patients could receive hormone replacement therapy. But when it was revealed that the clinic was actually performing gender reassignment surgery, the media and the general public were shocked. So we decided to investigate. And what we found shocked even us.
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Vanderbilt Hospital is right next door to us here in Nashville,
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and so we decided that we would investigate their transgender clinic.
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Yes, they drug and mutilate children, but it actually gets worse somehow.
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Also, Ron DeSantis is under criminal investigation for sending illegals to Martha's Vineyard.
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Well, none, of course, but they're claiming he committed one.
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And Don Lemon brings up slavery reparations and then promptly gets embarrassed.
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Chrissy Teigen says that her miscarriage was actually an abortion, and she's just now realizing it.
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So we've spent plenty of time in recent weeks discussing the horrific, unethical, dangerous, and barbaric practices of many hospitals and children's hospitals around the country all being performed under the guise of gender affirmation.
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Now, the media has frantically insisted that we have to stop scrutinizing the medical establishment in this way.
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Even if hospitals are sterilizing and butchering children, the media says we must not offer any critique.
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Because if we do, we're guilty of incitements and even terrorism.
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But I've never personally been very good at following orders, especially when those orders are delivered by the soulless goblins in the national media.
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I'm much more inclined to do exactly the opposite of whatever they say.
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And in fact, all this talk about the Frankenstein butchery happening at our nation's hospitals has made us wonder about the hospital closest to us here in Nashville, Vanderbilt University Medical Center.
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Is the full name Vanderbilt, we'll just call it for short.
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Over the past several days, we have investigated the matter.
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And let's begin at the beginning as we tell this story.
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So in 2018, Vanderbilt opened its Transgender Health Center.
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There was an article published in the Tennessean at the time that announced the new clinic, quoting its medical director, Dr. Shane Taylor,
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meet our patients where they are in their journey and help them with the resources they need.
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But then in a lecture during Vanderbilt's LGBTQ Health Grand Rounds lecture series,
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which live streamed to Facebook but was viewed by almost nobody at the time,
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Dr. Taylor was a bit more detailed in explaining the hospital's actual motivations for expanding into, quote unquote, transgender care.
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In fact, she said that she personally helped to convince the institution to make the move based in part because she claims it's the right thing to do,
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but also in large part because gender affirmation surgeries are, quote, big moneymakers.
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She boasted that a phalloplasty, which is the construction of an artificial penis,
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which is made using flesh cut from other parts of the body,
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she said that those can be worth $100,000 when you factor in all of the follow-ups that are necessary.
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Starting in January 1st of 2017, according to the Affordable Care Act,
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insurance carriers are mandated to cover medical expenses for trans folks.
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Some of our BUMC financial folks in October of 2016, starting a couple years ago,
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put down some costs of how much money we think each patient would bring in,
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This doesn't include any bottom surgery, and it's a lot of money.
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So female, it's a male, chest reconstruction, can bring in $40,000.
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A patient just on routine hormone treatment, who I'm only seeing a few times a year,
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can bring in several thousand dollars because it requires a lot of visits and labs.
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Now, these I got from the Internet, but it's from the Philadelphia Center for Transgender Surgery,
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which does a lot of surgery for patients, and I just wanted to give you an idea
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of how much these bottom surgeries are making, and I think this has to be an underestimate.
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They're quoting roughly around $20,000 for a vaginoplasty,
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So I would think that this has to be a gross underestimate.
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I think that's just, like, the surgeon's piece of it,
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which anybody who's ever been to the hospital knows that that's, like, 10% of it.
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And then the female-to-male bottom surgeries, these are huge moneymakers.
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Again, I think this has to be an underestimate that they're quoting around $20,000 for a vaginoplasty.
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There's been different things that I've read that said it could be up to $100,000.
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Dr. Winokur, who's our surgeon, said that there's entire clinics
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where the entire clinic is supported just by their phalloplasties.
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And that is, like, a fraction of the surgeries that they're doing.
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Now, profitable, though it may be, there are some medical professionals
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who take the Hippocratic Oath seriously and object to carving up a person's body in this way.
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Vanderbilt was apparently concerned that some of their own staff might fall into that category.
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So, at another Grand Rounds lecture in 2019, a woman named Dr. Ellen Clayton,
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who's a pediatric specialist at Vanderbilt, told those assembled that if they refuse to participate
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due to their religious beliefs in these procedures, there will be consequences.
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Conscientious objections are problematic, she explained,
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and those who object really shouldn't work at Vanderbilt at all.
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If you are going to assert conscientious objection,
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and you are not paying the cost for your belief.
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I think that is a real, I mean, I think that's a real issue.
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So, yes, Vanderbilt, if someone has a conscientious objection to participating in this sort of surgery,
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it would probably have to accommodate you to the extent that you can find another person
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who can do your job who doesn't have an objection, other things of that nature.
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But I just want you to take home that saying that you're not going to do something
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because of your conscientiousness, because of your religious beliefs,
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is not without consequences, and it should not be without consequences.
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We are given enormous, if you don't want to do this kind of work,
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Now, is it legal to make those kinds of threats?
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I mean, can she legally promise consequences for those who exercise their First Amendment rights?
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Well, whether she can legally do that or not, she did.
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Vanderbilt just got into the gender transition game,
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and now it is such a central part of its core mission and its business plan
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that any doctor who objects is not welcome to work in the hospital at all.
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Yet, even with these warnings, Vanderbilt would seem to be deeply concerned
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that some of the doctors on their staff might still stick to their bigoted superstitions,
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like their belief in human biology and that sort of thing.
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So to solve that problem, they proudly unveiled a First in the Nation, they say, program
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So the TransBuddy program means that trans patients are paired up with an activist from
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the community who attends appointments with them.
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The TransBuddy initiative is there to, quote, observe how hospital staff are interacting
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and to ensure that they're using correct pronouns.
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A TransBuddy volunteer in the clip will play for you in a second even explains that some medical
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providers at Vanderbilt are unsafe, and so they require this form of babysitting.
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My name is Shawn Riley, and I'm the program coordinator for TransBuddy at the program for
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TransBuddy provides trained peer advocates for transgender patients who are coming for
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doctor's appointments or other health care related services.
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Whether you're looking for something that's related to medical transition, such as hormone
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therapy, or something completely unrelated, like breaking an arm or going to an ENT, we are
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here to help support any transgender patients that come through our doors.
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The TransBuddy program was organically created through the efforts of transgender people and
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continues to consistently be led by trans people in Middle Tennessee.
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The TransBuddy program is a one-of-a-kind in the nation, and institutions are looking to
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Vanderbilt to replicate and expand programs like ours.
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We're not seeking to find solutions often for people's problems, we're just seeking to be
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there and to accompany and to be a friendly face.
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And to be a non-medical face in a place where everybody coming in the room is going to be
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Sometimes I'm there to be sort of always observing kind of how hospital staff are interacting with
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individuals and again, you know, using correct pronouns or treating the individual with respect.
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So this is less a Buddy program than a Big Brother program, though of course they would never use
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And we did check and confirm that Vanderbilt makes their Orwellian Trans Buddies available
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In fact, a TransBuddy may help shepherd a child through many types of services, all provided
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Vanderbilt administers chemical castration drugs, aka puberty blockers, and irreversible
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Though sometime in the last month or two, interestingly enough, they removed language from their website
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We had to look it up on the archived version of the website.
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We found it there, but not the current version.
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Yet they may have forgotten to delete a video from Vanderbilt Psychiatry's YouTube channel
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back in 2020, which admits explicitly that they will give and have given irreversible
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We can provide gender-affirming hormones on an individual who is on a pubertal blocker,
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depending on whatever kind of blocker they've chosen or we have discussed with them,
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or they can present to us at a later stage of puberty, and then we provide the gender-affirming
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Previously, the Endocrine Society recommended to start these at age 16, but we all know that
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So more recently, they did update that to say as early as 14 for compelling reasons.
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So we have some individuals who have started gender-affirming hormones at 13 or 14 to be
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Again, fertility preservation and consent are very important to discuss prior to any initiation
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And I think we can probably assume that they've never met a reason that was not compelling
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So after they've drugged and sterilized the kids, Vanderbilt, as explained in this video
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presentation by plastic surgeon Julian Winokor and physician's assistant Shailen
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Vanderblomen, at that point they will happily perform double mastectomies on adolescent girls.
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So when we talk about the WPATH guidelines, so in order for our patients to really successfully
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undergo these surgeries, we do, again, follow these guidelines.
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So a lot of times it's for insurance purposes, but again, insurance is kind of follow suit with
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So for any kind of top surgery, we do require one letter of persistent, well-documented gender
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dysphoria by a licensed mental health provider.
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We ensure that the patient is capable of making fully informed decisions on their own.
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However, for a lot of our younger patients, again, if they are 16, 17 here at Vanderbilt,
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if they have been on testosterone, have a parental consent, we're able to do a lot of
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Vanderbilt got into the gender transition game, admittedly, in large part because it's
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They then threatened any staff members who objected and then enlisted a gang of trans
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activists to act as surveillance in order to force compliance.
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And they now castrate, sterilize, and mutilate children as well as adults, while apparently
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taking steps to hide this activity from the public view, which is why we had to sift through
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web archives and track down videos not available to the general public just to confirm all of
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We're left in the end, once again, with a stark reality, that the field of medicine has
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been infiltrated and co-opted by radical ideologues, by left-wing cultists and LGBT extremists.
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Vanderbilt, like so many other medical institutions, has sacrificed both science and ethics on the
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But that is the desperate tactic of a system that knows it is being exposed.
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We can't allow ourselves to be bullied by those kinds of intimidation tactics and emotional
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So Bexar County Sheriff Javier Salazar in Texas has announced that he is opening up a criminal investigation
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into the matter of Ron DeSantis sending illegals to Martha's Vineyard.
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And you may be asking, why is a guy in Texas doing this, number one?
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What evidence is there that a crime was committed?
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These are all the questions that you may have, and fortunately, the sheriff is here to not answer any of them.
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We are opening up a case with an investigation with regard to the suspected activities involving the 48 migrants from Venezuela
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that, as we understand it at this point, the facts of the case at this point,
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are that on Wednesday, September 14th, here in Bexar County in the city of San Antonio,
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our understanding is that a Venezuelan migrant was paid what we would call a bird dog fee
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to recruit approximately 50 migrants from the area around a migrant resource center on San Pedro here in San Antonio.
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As we understand it, 48 migrants were lured, and I will use the word lured,
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under false pretenses into staying at a hotel for a couple of days.
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At a certain point, they were shuttled to an airplane where they were flown to Florida
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and then eventually flown to Martha's Vineyard.
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Again, under false pretenses is the information that we have, that they were promised work.
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They were promised the solution to several of their problems.
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They were taken to Martha's Vineyard from what we can gather for nothing,
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And then they were unceremoniously stranded in Martha's Vineyard.
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I mean, they were, it's like you might as well drop them on a desert island.
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Now, he didn't actually explain, and you could keep listening to that,
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but there's no reason because he doesn't explain what laws were broken,
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which, you know, if you're launching a criminal investigation,
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then that's the first thing you should be able to explain,
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is that we believe this law and that law and that law were broken.
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So this is a criminal investigation where even the person conducting the investigation,
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There's no theory here at all of what laws were broken.
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Daily Wire has the response from the DeSantis camp.
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It says a spokesperson for DeSantis responded to Salazar's remarks by saying in a statement,
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immigrants have been more than willing to leave Bexar County
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after being abandoned, homeless, and left to fend for themselves.
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Florida gave them an opportunity to see greener pastures in a sanctuary jurisdiction
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that offered greater resources for them, as we expected.
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Unless the Massachusetts National Guard has abandoned these individuals,
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they've been provided accommodations, sustenance, clothing, and more options to succeed
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following their unfair enticement into the United States,
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unlike the 53 immigrants who died in a truck found abandoned in Bexar County this June.
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You want to talk about luring immigrants, well, yeah, there's the way in which immigrants
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are lured across the border to begin with by the kind of policies that this sheriff,
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because he's a Democrat, certainly supports, and we know what happens there.
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As the statement from DeSantis camp mentions, 53 immigrants is just one example.
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The many, just like the untold human wreckage that there is because of our open borders policies.
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Wreckage on that side of the border and this, which has affected both illegal immigrants
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And that's all because they're lured across the border to begin with.
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The promises that DeSantis made them was, it wasn't really DeSantis making those promises,
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When you declare yourself to be a sanctuary, you're promising to take care of immigrants.
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And so DeSantis said, well, they said they'd take care of you.
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So we're bringing you to a very wealthy and very nice, beautiful place where they said they would take care of you.
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DeSantis had a political victory with this move, and the Democrats know it.
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So they're seeking the only remedy they ever seek anymore, which is criminal prosecution.
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That's the advantage when you own the system, is that when you get beat,
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you can always just try to throw somebody in jail for it.
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Well, the actual crime he committed is he embarrassed Democrats.
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And worse than that, he embarrassed Democrats who live in Martha's Vineyard.
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And those are the ones you're not supposed to embarrass.
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Speaking of people getting embarrassed, this is a great moment on Don Lemon's show,
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as it's his doomed, unfortunately doomed show, as it staggers towards the end of its run.
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A great moment, not for Don Lemon himself, but for anyone who happens to watch the clip.
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Well, this is coming when, you know, all of this wealth and you hear about it comes as England is facing rising costs of living,
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a living crisis, austerity budget cuts, and so on.
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And then you have those who are asking for reparations for colonialism,
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and they're wondering, you know, $100 billion, $24 billion here and there, $500 million there.
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Some people want to be paid back, and members of the public are wondering,
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why are we suffering when you are, you know, you have all of this vast wealth?
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Well, I think you're right about reparations in terms of if people want it, though,
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what they need to do is you always need to go back to the beginning of a supply chain.
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And when, across the entire world, when slavery was taking place,
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which was the first nation in the world that abolished slavery?
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It was started by William Wilberforce, was the British.
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2,000 naval men died on the high seas trying to stop slavery.
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Because the African kings were rounding up their own people.
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If reparations need to be paid, we need to go right back to the beginning of that supply chain
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and say who was rounding up their own people and having them handcuffing cages.
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And maybe, I don't know, the descendants of those families where they died
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that those families should receive something, too, I think, at the same time.
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But you could tell he's internally panicking because he's thinking, like, this is not the
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Oh, this is someone who actually knows something about history.
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And so he bails out of there as fast as he can.
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And everything that she's saying, of course, is 100% correct.
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It seems like there's been a lot of discussion in recent days and weeks about slavery, which
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maybe doesn't seem different from any other time because we're constantly talking about
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But the difference now, over the last couple of weeks anyway, is that we're actually talking
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about the historical realities of slavery rather than the cartoonish sort of version
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Because usually, you know, the media, they decide the terms for the discussion of slavery
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And the terms are always, we're only going to talk about this evil in the context of when
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white Americans and Europeans were perpetrating it.
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That's the only, that's all we're worried about.
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It seems like with, we had Bill Maher yesterday and now this clip, now it's like we're expanding
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We're finally acknowledging that actually there's more to the story than just that.
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And this is not a, this is not whataboutism, it's not a gotcha to point out what was previously
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an unspeakable fact that the ways, the way that Africans ended up on the ships in the transatlantic
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slave trade is because they were captured and sold by Africans.
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I mean, for the most part, Europeans were not wading into the interior of Africa.
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Now, you might be able to find examples of that, but that is, that would not have been
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And the transatlantic slave trade could not have become what it was if that's the way it
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No, in fact, you had, you had African kingdoms that were very happy.
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I mean, they got the slaves, they gathered them together.
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As she mentions, they had them in cages, sitting there on the beach, waiting for people to stop
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So if we are going to talk about reparations for slavery, that should be part of it.
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You know, we need to know, who are, are you descended from, do you descend from a slave
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or do you potentially descend from one of the people that captured slaves and sold them?
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Of course, the problem is that almost all of us, if you trace our lineage back far enough,
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almost all of us are descended both from people involved in perpetrating slavery and from people
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So if you can inherit that guilt, if you can inherit guilt and you can inherit victimhood,
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then we're in a very confusing situation because we have, we have, most of us have both.
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We, we move on with our lives and we live in the present.
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Rather than trying to cash in on the sufferings of our ancestors, sufferings that we did not
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And it's also true that, um, not only was, um, not only were the British among the first
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There are other places, Haiti, for example, there was a slave riot, rebellion.
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Um, but it's not just that the British abolished it.
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It's that they, they went out, they then went out on the high seas and tried to put, put an
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Um, and they sacrificed their lives in doing so.
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I mean, they, they fought to get rid of slavery across the entire world.
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And they did that, uh, you know, against the objections of Arab slave traders, African
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slave traders, and plenty of white slave traders too.
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I think I mentioned before when we had this conversation a few weeks ago that, uh, and
00:28:18.160
there are many stories like this, but, um, in particular, you know, the, the, the Arab
00:28:26.420
And there are many, uh, stories you read about from history where, uh, because the, you know,
00:28:31.720
the British, they were patrolling and, and they were looking out for slave ships.
00:28:35.340
And, uh, if they were on their way, you know, if there was Arab slave traders and they were
00:28:39.700
out on the, on the, on the seas and they, they saw a British ship coming their way, um,
00:28:46.440
they would oftentimes just kill the slaves and dump them overboard so they didn't have
00:28:51.900
to suffer the consequences and they could pretend that they weren't slavers.
00:28:56.880
So that's really what makes Europeans and, uh, you know, uh, unique in their relationship
00:29:07.600
What, what makes it unique is actually going out and trying to free people from slavery
00:29:12.800
Yeah, most countries in the world eventually, although some took a while to do it, especially
00:29:19.820
some countries in Africa and, uh, and in the Middle East, but most countries eventually
00:29:26.800
Sometimes it's because there was a slave revolt.
00:29:28.740
Sometimes they, it just, it didn't, it wasn't economically feasible anymore.
00:29:35.220
But when you look at the countries that fought wars over it and people sacrificed their
00:29:40.420
lives to get rid of this institution, well, that's what makes the British unique is what
00:29:49.940
Another note I wanted to make too, and I've seen a few people point this out and I think
00:29:53.720
it's important because, you know, we've seen complaints from Americans about, uh, well,
00:30:01.700
Queen Elizabeth, you know, her funeral yesterday and about all sort of the, the pageantry and all
00:30:08.940
And that's where this conversation started with Don Lemon.
00:30:12.180
Um, and we've seen these complaints of people, you know, Americans kind of scoffing at the
00:30:16.960
way, uh, the British are, are, are weeping over the death of the queen.
00:30:22.180
Well, if you think that looks absurd, if that looks absurd to you, imagine how it appears
00:30:28.320
to them and to everybody else in the world or how it appeared to them when they, you know,
00:30:32.780
looked over at America and saw the same sort of pageantry and over the top weeping and mourning
00:30:44.240
So, yeah, I mean, they, they are weeping and, and, and, and mourning the death of Queen Elizabeth,
00:30:49.900
who's one of the most significant figures of the 20th century and the 21st.
00:30:57.000
But it's not like we don't engage in similar kind of, uh, theatrics here in this country.
00:31:04.180
The difference is just who earns those theatrics.
00:31:09.000
So you could take Queen Elizabeth's, uh, resume and all the ways that she contributed to history
00:31:16.100
and then compare that to George Floyd, who did what exactly?
00:31:22.380
He terrorized and victimized members of his own community and then he died high on drugs
00:31:35.840
He had multiple memorial services and funerals and people.
00:31:39.860
Remember the, the Minneapolis mayor falling to his knees, weeping at George Floyd's casket.
00:31:46.900
So if it seems silly to you when you see people doing that for Queen Elizabeth and you say,
00:31:50.840
well, they didn't even know her, what are they, what are they crying about?
00:31:54.760
What about hundreds, thousands of people showed up to George Floyd's memorial in tears?
00:32:04.960
And if they ever did meet him, they probably would not have liked him because he was a scumbag criminal.
00:32:11.460
So just, uh, kind of putting things in perspective there, I think.
00:32:15.320
We played some clips yesterday from that 60 Minutes interview with, uh, President Biden,
00:32:21.760
I don't know, this is the best one and, uh, and I don't know how we missed it,
00:32:27.960
You know, does he have, does he have what he needs mentally?
00:32:30.580
Does he have the mental tools to continue to be president, to run for re-election?
00:32:49.820
Some people ask whether you are fit for the job.
00:32:53.460
And when you hear that, I wonder what you think.
00:33:03.480
If you think I don't have the energy level or the mental acuity, then, then, you know,
00:33:10.740
It's another thing of just watching and, you know, keep my schedule.
00:33:15.980
I think that, uh, you know, I don't, when I sit down with our NATO allies and keep them
00:33:20.980
together, I don't have them saying, wait a minute, what are you, what are you saying?
00:33:25.120
You know, I mean, it's a matter of, you know, that old expression, the proof of the pudding
00:33:30.600
I mean, I, I respect the fact that people would say, you know, you're old.
00:33:36.560
And, but I think it relates to how much energy you have and whether or not the job you're
00:33:42.680
doing is one consistent with what any person of any age would be able to do.
00:33:51.580
I say it's, I think it's, I haven't, look, I have trouble even mentioning, even saying
00:33:59.980
to myself, my own head, the number of years, I no more think of myself as being as old as
00:34:06.240
I mean, it's just not, uh, uh, I haven't observed anything in terms of, there's not things I
00:34:13.300
don't do now that I did before, whether it's physical or mental or anything else.
00:34:20.460
He reminds me, he reminds me of like a drunk guy at a sobriety checkpoint, trying to convince
00:34:27.120
And the more he talks, it's like, dude, you should have just quit.
00:34:32.160
Oh, when you're in that position, short and sweet.
00:34:48.300
Uh, so that should make you feel good about the state of, uh, the country's in good hands.
00:34:53.220
As we see once again, the only wire has this report.
00:34:55.780
Sports Illustrated swimsuit model, Chrissy Teigen responded to the backlash against her as
00:35:00.080
she dared critics to do your worst after she recently announced that her miscarriage was
00:35:06.660
The 36-year-old hit back at negative comments that started flooding the official Instagram
00:35:10.460
account of Glamour, a magazine that published Teigen's account, or comments rather, about
00:35:14.920
the death of her 20-week-old unborn child named Jack.
00:35:18.960
Teigen took a screenshot of many of the responses, with some calling her a drama queen and a liar,
00:35:23.740
and others accusing her of trying to stay relevant.
00:35:26.100
She then tweeted the message that read, I knew this would happen, and honestly, I've already
00:35:30.360
seen you do your worst, so if this makes you feel better, great.
00:35:34.840
The backlash comes following Teigen's comments at the Proper Daily's A Day of Unreasonable
00:35:39.980
Conversation Summit, where she labeled her miscarriage in 2020 an abortion.
00:35:43.960
Teigen shared quite, quote, two years ago when I was pregnant with Jack, John, and my third
00:35:50.060
child, I had to make a lot of difficult and heartbreaking decisions.
00:35:54.360
When I was pregnant with Jack, John, and my third child.
00:36:02.000
It became very clear on halfway through that he would not survive and that I wouldn't either
00:36:10.240
An abortion to save my life for a baby that has absolutely no chance.
00:36:13.660
And to be honest, I never ever put that together until actually a few months ago.
00:36:21.220
And I became really frustrated that I didn't in the first place say what it was.
00:36:25.040
And I felt silly that it had taken me over a year to actually understand that we had an
00:36:30.600
And let me just say to begin with that, you know, you get this from celebrities all the
00:36:39.240
She kind of specializes in this, where they'll announce something personal about their lives
00:36:46.200
that nobody asked them to announce they didn't have to say it, but they tell the world and
00:36:52.960
then people have opinions about it and they get offended and they play the victim.
00:36:58.540
The thing is, once you have presented something to the world, information you didn't have to
00:37:05.880
present, once you've done that, then people are going to have opinions because people have
00:37:11.380
Any piece of information someone comes across, they form, they have a perspective that they
00:37:16.420
bring to it and they're going to have their own perspective.
00:37:19.300
And so if you don't want anyone's perspective on a personal detail about your life, don't
00:37:26.320
And that's even more the case when you're using something from your life and you're injecting
00:37:43.360
And then you play the victim and also the hero, do your worst, everyone making names.
00:37:48.060
It's like, what do you think was going to happen?
00:37:55.300
I don't know exactly what happened with this pregnancy and how it ended.
00:38:01.680
What I do know, though, is as she admits, as she acknowledges, she announced that it was
00:38:05.660
a miscarriage and she even, if I remember correctly, there were pictures that she took
00:38:10.980
of her cradling her child, who was deceased, in her arms.
00:38:15.680
And she posted the pictures and said, we had a miscarriage.
00:38:19.940
You know, we've been through this in my family and it's awful.
00:38:26.100
And now she says, well, I didn't realize at the time that it was an abortion.
00:38:31.460
How could you not realize something was an abortion if that's what it was?
00:38:35.340
Because, well, an abortion is the intentional direct destruction of the child.
00:38:47.520
I mean, now we get very grim and dark when thinking about this, but have you ever heard
00:38:51.120
of an abortion where they kill the child and then give the child's dead body to you to
00:39:03.460
And certainly, if you had the child directly killed through abortion, you would know it.
00:39:09.160
But there's no looking back on it two years later and saying, oh, you know what?
00:39:20.440
So it seems to me what has happened here, if I'm to make sense of this, and again, we
00:39:27.200
all are within our rights to try to make sense of it.
00:39:29.620
She's the one who's presented this to the world.
00:39:32.180
So it seems to me what's happened is that there was a terrible health complication with
00:39:40.700
They had to deliver the child early, too early for the child to survive.
00:39:51.720
And then that also explains how we had the pictures of her holding the child.
00:40:03.040
I mean, there are times, and we've always acknowledged this, there are times when there
00:40:07.160
could be a medical crisis in the middle of a pregnancy, something that affects the child
00:40:12.220
or the mother, and it becomes clear that the pregnancy cannot continue.
00:40:16.560
The pregnancy has to be ended in order to preserve the life of the mother.
00:40:22.920
Well, if you end the pregnancy by delivering the child without first killing the child
00:40:34.360
An abortion, by definition, is the direct, intentional, physical killing of the child.
00:40:40.180
If that does not happen, then there was no abortion.
00:40:43.240
And if you have to deliver a child early to preserve the life of the mother, knowing almost
00:40:47.660
certainly that the child will not be able to survive being delivered that early, that's
00:40:55.760
That is, you know, you're taking an action, you're delivering the child, not intending
00:41:01.640
at all to kill the child, but yet that ends up being a result of that action.
00:41:08.500
You're doing it for a good reason, to preserve the mother's life.
00:41:17.440
So that is what would make sense of this to me.
00:41:19.640
But then, so why are you coming back two years later and saying, you know what, I'm
00:41:25.440
It would really seem like you're using this terrible tragedy that happened to you and your
00:41:34.640
All right, before we get to the comment section, here's a clip I want to show for you.
00:41:37.820
This is from Amazon's Lord of the Rings show that has gone, it's kind of gone viral and
00:41:45.060
I still haven't seen the show and I don't plan on it because I do judge it and dismiss
00:41:52.420
I wasn't excited about watching it in the first place.
00:41:54.200
I was kind of thinking about maybe I'll sit down and watch it.
00:41:57.460
I saw this scene and on this basis alone, I'm not watching the show.
00:42:01.620
I know that might seem, well, how can you judge a show based on one scene?
00:42:05.840
So, let's just go through, let's watch this clip together.
00:42:13.220
All right, so you got four guards in suits of armor and they take this girl out of the
00:42:37.640
Oh, she pushes the guy away and she slaps the other guy.
00:42:46.280
And now she's shoving all the guards into a jail cell.
00:42:50.980
Because she's very pleased with herself as she walks off.
00:42:59.500
She comes out, surrounded by four guards, all bigger than her, fully armored.
00:43:10.780
And next thing you know, she's pushing them all single file into a cell.
00:43:21.440
I don't know how she did all this in five seconds.
00:43:22.840
But somehow, she was able to physically defeat four guys that were surrounding her in five seconds.
00:43:32.520
So she had to open the cell that was just closed.
00:43:36.140
And then, I guess, with one hand, she's opening a cell.
00:43:37.900
And with another hand, she's shoving four guys into the cell.
00:43:50.880
Now, this is a common thing in action films, I admit.
00:43:52.960
But it's even more common if it's an action scene where the woman, where it's the kick-ass, what we're doing, the kick-ass woman routine.
00:43:59.420
What you'll find is that there's some chivalry on the part of the bad guys.
00:44:02.900
Because what they'll usually do is, even if there's 20 of them surrounding her, they'll only attack one at a time.
00:44:12.240
So the one goon attacks, gets kicked once in the face.
00:44:18.540
And then another guy goes, and another guy goes.
00:44:23.200
And in this case, you've got to give some credit again to the bad guys, that they were polite, not only in not attacking her all at once, but actually when she opened the cell door and said, get in a single file line.
00:44:35.220
And she just coaxed them in, and they just walked in, into the cell.
00:44:44.080
Yes, on that, I don't, you don't need to tell me anything else about the show.
00:44:47.520
And I know there are going to be people, how could you dismiss the show?
00:44:52.600
I mean, that scene tells me, it might be an okay show.
00:44:56.780
That's kind of what I'm hearing about the Lord of the Rings show.
00:45:00.000
But fine is not good enough when your source material is one of the great, you know, works of fantasy of all time.
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JS says, not only is this teacher aroused by the thought of himself as a woman, he's also aroused by the idea of dragging these kids into his sex fantasy like a flasher would be.
00:46:51.480
Yeah, you're right, and that's also an important point with this teacher in Canada yesterday with the big giant fake breasts that he was wearing to school.
00:47:04.420
This is not like he sees himself as a woman with breasts the size of watermelons.
00:47:16.220
But apparently for him, part of the fantasy is not only dressing this way, but dressing this way in front of kids.
00:47:26.000
And the other point, I think, I don't know if anyone makes this in the comments section to read here, but it's also relevant to point out this is a shop teacher.
00:47:33.100
And I can remember shop class when I was a kid, and there are all kinds of safety regulations, like one of them is don't wear really loose-fitting clothing, that sort of thing.
00:47:43.440
So there is no way that these enormous hot air balloon size fake breasts are up to code for the safety codes in shop class.
00:48:03.360
How is it at all, how is that allowed on the grounds of safety to wear those things in shop class?
00:48:11.180
There's even a video, I think we played the video yesterday.
00:48:12.820
Anyway, he's showing the kids how to use a, he's using a circular saw with these enormous fake prosthetic breasts on.
00:48:22.660
Mac Brown says, not going to lie, every single one of my friends back in high school would have been crying, trying to contain their laughter during every single class, even the ones that ended up being extremely left-wing.
00:48:32.620
There were just certain things we all agreed were hilarious back in the distant days of the early 2000s, and beach ball-sized fake breasts were definitely one of them.
00:48:39.840
Pretty sure we would have all been tarred, feathered, and crucified under today's standards.
00:48:45.060
Now, you know, you have to put yourself in the kids' shoes here, and they're in a different environment, right?
00:48:51.740
And it's not fair that they're put in this position at all.
00:48:54.880
It's obviously really awkward and embarrassing for them.
00:48:56.940
But they're also in an environment where they've been told that if they laugh about it, then that's a hate crime, and they could get expelled from school probably to deny someone's lived experience and their gender identity.
00:49:10.320
So we don't blame them for not laughing hysterically, but it is just another sign of the times.
00:49:16.740
Yeah, I can only imagine when I was in high school, the same time period, early 2000s, a male teacher walks in and one of those, we would not be, it would be, in some ways, it would be the greatest thing that ever happened.
00:49:33.840
We would, you would, if that happened to your freshman in high school, that's, you'd be laughing about that until your graduation and beyond.
00:49:41.500
And that, in fact, is the appropriate response to absurdity.
00:49:50.940
And I know the left would say, well, that's bullying.
00:49:56.400
When someone is being absurd like that, and it's a lot of other things besides absurd, it's perverse and abusive and everything else, but it's also absurd.
00:50:05.840
And the appropriate response to absurdity is to laugh at it.
00:50:09.640
We should actually teach our kids to laugh at it.
00:50:15.180
I would be, if I had a kid in class, if I had a kid in school, teacher comes in like that, first, I would be proud of my child for laughing.
00:50:24.780
If they pointed and laughed and said, that's the dumbest thing I've ever seen, I would be so, I would be proud of them.
00:50:30.080
I'd take them out for ice cream afterwards and say, yes, that's exactly the way to respond.
00:50:33.400
And the next time you see someone dressed like that, do exactly the same thing again.
00:50:40.280
But the next thing I'd be doing as the parent is I'd be marching down to the school and saying, get that pervert out of the classroom.
00:50:51.500
Okay, no, you are not going to have a teacher acting out their sex fetish in front of my child.
00:50:58.820
So that's the other question I have, where are the parents here?
00:51:02.860
And maybe they showed up, we don't really know, but it is Canada, so I have my doubts.
00:51:09.020
I mean, every parent in that school should be showing up at the school and saying, fire that person.
00:51:19.820
Let's see, Jarcher says, that granny is on par with rap legends such as Pooh Shiesty and Spot'em Got'em.
00:51:31.400
I would put her, I think she's in the conversation.
00:51:33.220
Yeah, the rapping right-wing pro-life grandmother from yesterday.
00:51:38.060
I'd put her, if we're going to start ranking, and I know this gets controversial, you start ranking the greatest rappers of all time.
00:51:43.560
I don't pretend to be necessarily an expert on the subject, but I think if we're doing a top five, you know, you got your Pooh Shiesty, you got Spot'em Got'em.
00:51:52.920
I'm putting rapping granny at probably number three all time.
00:52:04.300
The time is upon us for another Backstage, which is happening tonight at 6 p.m. Central, 7 p.m. Eastern.
00:52:10.220
And it's about time because there's more news than ever to discuss.
00:52:13.280
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00:52:52.180
Well, Jack Turbin is a prominent doctor and professor who's amassed many academic and professional accolades.
00:52:58.960
He's published studies and written pieces for the New York Times, the Washington Post, many other outlets.
00:53:06.120
And worse than a moron, in fact, Jack Turbin merely pretends, I think, to be stupid and confused.
00:53:12.100
He's one of the medical community's most outspoken advocates for child gender transition.
00:53:16.480
He pushes to have children sterilized and castrated as young as possible.
00:53:19.920
He claims that puberty blockers are completely reversible, which is a lie.
00:53:23.840
He claims that they merely put puberty on hold, which is also a lie.
00:53:27.220
He downplays the risk that children may come to regret the irreversible changes made to their body during, quote, transition.
00:53:33.760
He absurdly insists that refusing to mutilate or drug a gender-confused child is a form of conversion therapy.
00:53:40.300
Now, if Turbin really believed all of this, he would be a moron, and that's what he would be.
00:53:46.020
But, you know, it's simply one of the dumbest human beings walking the face of the earth, in fact, is what he would be.
00:53:51.340
But to focus merely on the idiocy of the gender ideology brigade is to ignore their abject wickedness.
00:53:59.260
Jack Turbin may be a profoundly stupid man, but let that not distract us from the fact that he's also deeply evil and dishonest.
00:54:07.540
And yet, this stupid, bad, evil, dishonest fraud has credentials, lots of them.
00:54:15.040
What he lacks in brain cells and integrity, he makes up for with degrees.
00:54:19.480
That was essentially the point yesterday when he tweeted, quote,
00:54:22.520
four years at Harvard, five years at Yale, three more years at Harvard, two years at Stanford,
00:54:27.680
but Karen has some thoughts about sex chromosomes.
00:54:33.240
Well, how dare you peons approach him with talk of biology and chromosomes and the binary nature of sex?
00:54:40.900
Jack Turbin spent nearly a decade and a half in Ivy League schools.
00:54:46.480
At least he has lots of very expensive pieces of paper framed and hanging on his wall,
00:54:52.600
But in reality, of course, Jack Turbin studied in our country's most prestigious academic institutions
00:54:57.180
for nearly 15 years and yet knows less about biology than my three-year-old daughter,
00:55:02.900
which is not something he should be bragging about.
00:55:06.040
But this is all the gender ideology side has going for it.
00:55:09.020
They do not have truth or common sense or rationality or moral decency.
00:55:12.760
Their views are so insane that they won't even try to defend them publicly.
00:55:16.860
They advocate for things that are so horrific and brutal that they'll accuse you of incitement simply for talking about it.
00:55:23.800
As if to say, like, we know that this thing that we're doing is so terrible that if people see it,
00:55:28.080
they're just going to instinctively react violently to it.
00:55:32.880
They try to hide behind the shield of credentialism,
00:55:36.280
hoping that you'll surrender your common sense and submit to their agenda based simply on their academic resumes.
00:55:41.100
They make wild, indefensible claims and expect that you will agree or at least shut up and acquiesce
00:55:47.820
because they have letters after their names and you don't.
00:55:51.560
They try to make very simple things seem very complicated
00:55:54.860
so that you will be convinced that only scholars and academics are qualified to discuss them.
00:56:01.140
And that brings us finally to a recent article in The Atlantic titled,
00:56:07.740
Yes, author Maggie Mertens in The Atlantic has declared
00:56:11.420
that the thing which made sense to everyone everywhere since always
00:56:17.760
And she will enlist a couple of academics to help convince you,
00:56:20.620
hoping you won't notice how stupid they all sound.
00:56:26.820
And in America, some of them have even come to be seen as either traditionally for boys or traditionally for girls.
00:56:32.180
Think football, wrestling, field hockey, volleyball.
00:56:34.380
However, it's becoming more common for these lines to blur,
00:56:38.060
especially as Gen Zers are more likely than members of previous generations
00:56:45.780
Yeah, I wonder why Gen Z is rejecting a gender binary.
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Could it be because they've been told from birth that there is no binary?
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I mean, I heard it when we were filming What is a Woman?
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But first of all, I'm not inclined to follow the lead of a generation that's been on this planet
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the shortest amount of time and knows the least about it.
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they themselves are following the lead of the people who indoctrinated them.
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I mean, if they can see it, then why can't all you people?
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Well, it's because they're just parroting what you told them.
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Maintaining this binary in youth sports reinforces the idea that boys are inherently bigger,
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faster, and stronger than girls in a competitive setting,
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a notion that's been challenged by scientists for years.
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Decades of research have shown that sex is far more complex than we may think.
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Now, Mertens links to a study that she, of course, assumes nobody will take the time to read.
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It was co-authored by a woman named Sari Van Anders,
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along with Zach Scudson, who's a doctoral student in women's studies.
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So these are the people, two other authors on the study as well with similar credentials.
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But the study itself says nothing, proves nothing,
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and simply talks in circles, often contradicting itself.
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For example, it begins by establishing that sex and gender are, quote,
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But then the study ends with this sentence in their conclusion.
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One may therefore question the use of biology to justify ongoing segregation by gender slash sex,
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because biology does not support a gender binary,
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and instead highlights that sex is multifaceted.
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Wait, biology does not support a gender binary,
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But those are two different things you just, you said.
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Gender and sex are two different concepts in one moment,
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It's all nonsense meant to confuse rather than enlightened.
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that you just give up and stop challenging their ideas.
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And though sex differences in sports show advantages for men,
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researchers today still don't know how much of this is attributed to biological differences
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versus the lack of support provided to women to reach their highest potential.
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Science is increasingly showing how sex is dynamic.
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For example, social experiences can actually change levels of sex-related hormones,
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Sari Van Anders, the research chair in social neuroendocrinology
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at Queen's University in Ontario, told me by email.
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The insistence on separating sports teams strictly by sex is backwards,
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an assistant sociology professor at the University of British Columbia,
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who has studied the effect of the gender binary on students and young athletes.
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Part of the reason why we have this belief that boys are inherently stronger than girls,
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and even the fact that we believe that gender is a binary,
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is because of sport itself, not the other way around.
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The strict sex segregation we've instilled in sports at all levels
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gives the impression that men and women have completely different capabilities,
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the relationship between sex and athletic capability is never so cut and dried.
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There are no inherent differences between the sexes,
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but if there are, it's only because of social conditioning.
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It is social conditioning which makes men, on average, faster, stronger, quicker.
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Social conditioning gives men better endurance.
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I suppose we can assume that social conditioning also makes men taller.
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I mean, that's one of the reasons they have an advantage in some sports like basketball,
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Is that because of women having had the support they need from society to grow taller?
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There are literally hundreds of physical differences between the sexes.
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The differences encompass height, weight, bone density, muscle mass, etc.
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All of these differences give men the edge in competitive sports.
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Is it a lack of support in athletic programs that leads to women having lower bone mass?
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Thus, by the way, making them more susceptible to injury?
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Does that also explain why similar physical differences between males and females can be observed in the animal kingdom,
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See, this is the thing that the people who challenge the sex binary always ignore.
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They ignore nearly all of the other life forms on the planet.
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I mean, at one moment, they're quick to remind us that, oh, we're just an animal like any other.
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But then when it comes to biological sex, they put us in a completely different...
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We're the only species that doesn't have biological sex.
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And all of these facts, which they ignore, help to explain why a group of talented middle school boys could dominate a WNBA team.
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Why the fastest woman at the Olympics has never been faster than the fastest man at the Olympics in any race or event ever in history.
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Why men dominate women athletically in nearly every measurable category, in nearly every sport, and always have since time immemorial.
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Why, in fact, every human society since the dawn of man has organized themselves around a recognition of the difference between the sexes,
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and has tasked men with taking on the more physically challenging and dangerous roles.
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Now, it's not that men are conditioned that way.
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And societies have recognized that and utilized those characteristics in a way that makes sense.
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Which is why you go all the way back to, you know, primitive times.
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And what you're going to find is that, in most cases, the men are going out hunting, and the women are at home taking care of the home.
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So, you aren't going to find cases where it's flipped around, and the men are the homemakers, and the women are the ones who go out hunting.
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That wouldn't make any sense, because every society has noticed, well, these are the bigger, stronger people with more endurance, and so obviously they should be doing that.
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We're the only ones who have been confused about the subject.
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It's just that the difference is that now we have a whole army of highly educated quacks and frauds trying to make us confused.
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And that is why they, and especially, whatever her name is, I forget her name now, at the Atlantic, are today canceled.
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And that will do it for this portion of the show as we move over to the members block.