The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 106 - Are The Accusations Credible？

00:00:00.000 Well, as it stands right now, next Monday, this coming Monday, Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser, Christine Ford, will both appear before a Senate committee to talk about the allegations that Ford has leveled against Kavanaugh.

00:00:15.940 I was reading the CNN article. I don't know why I was doing that, but I was reading the CNN article. If you're wondering whether or not CNN might be biased, if you're wondering about that, here's the article on CNN.com about the hearing that's scheduled for Monday.

00:00:43.140 This is what it says. It will be a public reckoning of a woman's courage, a man's character, and the capacity of Washington's leaders to show that some things matter more than politics.

00:00:55.460 That's the lead paragraph on this news, on this alleged news website. I mean, the news media, they get so offended, they get so personally offended when Trump constantly calls them fake news.

00:01:10.280 But this is why. They're not even trying to disguise it. They're making no attempt whatsoever to disguise that they are all in on Christine Ford's side, and that's they're making no attempt to disguise it.

00:01:23.520 The article goes on, an extraordinary American moment is scheduled to unfold next Monday when the accused, when the accused Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh and his accuser, California professor Christine Blasey Ford, are due to appear before Senate committee.

00:01:39.580 If it goes ahead, if it goes ahead as planned, the hearing will become a human drama that will be agonizing for Ford as she reveals the most intimate, painful details of an alleged assault. 0.87

00:01:51.580 It will be grueling for Kavanaugh as he defends his reputation over an incident he is adamant never took place.

00:01:57.560 So, yeah, if you're worried about 30, if you're, if you were curious, but maybe, you know, if there's maybe a little bit of a bias problem in the media, then there you go.

00:02:08.880 So, um, so I wanted to make a few more points about all this.

00:02:14.380 First of all, you know, one of the most fallacious arguments that I've heard in regards to, uh, to the, to the Brett Kavanaugh sex abuse allegation, if you can even call it an argument, but I've heard this online and people have said this to me over and over again.

00:02:28.160 Uh, they've said, you know, what if it was your daughter who said that a boy attempted to rape her?

00:02:35.320 What if it was your, what if it was your daughter?

00:02:37.440 How, how would you, how would you respond?

00:02:39.980 Um, and I guess people are saying this to me because my position has been that I find these allegations to be extremely suspicious and dubious and, um, and unsubstantiated and uncorroborated.

00:02:52.900 And so I think Brett Kavanaugh should still be confirmed and he should be confirmed.

00:02:56.860 He should be confirmed quickly.

00:02:59.160 Um, so people have said to me in response that, well, what if it was your, if it was your daughter, you wouldn't feel that way, would you?

00:03:06.440 And you hear this stuff all the time.

00:03:08.160 People try to frame conversations like this all the time, right?

00:03:11.500 Um, they, they, they ask you to imagine how you'd respond if your children were somehow personally impacted by the issue in question.

00:03:22.900 But, but first of all, that's actually exactly the wrong way to, to think about situations like this.

00:03:31.900 That, that is the wrong mindset to have.

00:03:36.060 Our, our objective should be to figure out the truth.

00:03:41.680 That should, what we should be trying to figure out what actually happened, what is true.

00:03:46.520 And that requires cool heads and objectivity.

00:03:51.140 It doesn't require strong, blinding emotion, which is the, which is the mindset that the, well, imagine if it was your child, people want us to adopt, but that's wrong. 0.97

00:04:02.800 Um, because yeah, if it was my, if my daughter told me this story and she told me right away, not 35 years later, um, then yeah, I would go to the boy's house and I would beat the crap out of them. 0.88

00:04:14.800 That's what I would do.

00:04:15.460 Um, but that's because as a father, my anger and my emotions and my protective instinct would take over and they would completely override any rational part of my brain.

00:04:26.800 So I would not, I mean, I would, I, that's how I would respond.

00:04:31.760 Um, I would respond in an emotional, angry, vengeful, violent way.

00:04:39.580 Um, I would respond probably in, in a rational way, but irrationality is not the answer here.

00:04:49.340 So every time, every time we do this, where we say, well, imagine, imagine if you were affected by this.

00:04:54.640 Imagine if you were personally involved.

00:04:57.060 No, that's, that's the opposite of what you should do.

00:05:00.000 The fact that we're removed from the situation, that's, that allows us to, to, to, to be objective.

00:05:09.420 Theoretically.

00:05:11.420 Um, but here's something else to consider.

00:05:13.800 You know, this is what I've been thinking about.

00:05:16.220 If we're going to play the whole, well, what if it was your child game?

00:05:22.040 Why don't we ever consider it from the other angle?

00:05:26.200 Like, okay.

00:05:28.080 You know, what if it was your daughter?

00:05:30.060 All right.

00:05:30.260 But what if it was your son?

00:05:32.700 What if your son was on the cusp of some huge achievement and a woman came forward with no evidence and no witnesses and, um, and, and nothing else.

00:05:43.320 And accused him of attempting to assault her years ago, but she doesn't know exactly when or where.

00:05:49.260 What if that, what if that happened to your son? 0.80

00:05:50.880 Would you assume that he's a rapist and throw him to the wolves?

00:05:56.400 Or would you demand that he be treated as a, as innocent until proven guilty?

00:06:02.440 I mean, how, how would you approach it then?

00:06:04.300 Why are we only supposed to imagine ourselves in the position of the woman or, you know, related to the woman somehow?

00:06:12.260 What about the man who is, who is supposed to be innocent until proven guilty?

00:06:15.860 And also, in fact, let, let me, let me say this, that, um, because this comparison doesn't really work because the, well, you know, what if it was your daughter?

00:06:27.260 That whole thing, you know, obviously in that situation, we're meant to imagine ourselves being told this by our daughter, um, right after it happened.

00:06:37.420 But, if I was, if I were Christine Ford's dad, you know, right now, who must be in his 70s or 80s or whatever, and if my daughter told me that she planned to publicly accuse a prominent figure of a sexual assault that supposedly happened 35 years ago, and that she never before mentioned to me or anyone else, and that she has no evidence to prove, and no witnesses to corroborate,

00:07:05.320 and she doesn't even remember all the details, like, when and, when and where it happened, in that case, you know what, I think I'd probably advise her against it.

00:07:13.420 I think in that case, uh, well, it's hard for me to know exactly what I would say to my daughter, because I can't even imagine having a daughter who's, who's in her 50s.

00:07:21.300 Um, but, I, I, I think there's a very good chance that I would advise her, no, I would not, I would not go forward with, with allegations like this, in this situation.

00:07:31.500 Now, there are no, you know, there, there's no statute of limitations for accusations, of course, so you can accuse anyone of anything, anytime, but there's a reason why they have a statute of limitations in a court of law, because if you wait too long, and then you make your abs, accusation, there's absolutely no way to prove or disprove anything you're saying.

00:07:54.100 So, the accusation can damage the person that you've accused, but he's not going to have the opportunity to vindicate himself.

00:08:02.640 So, I think, uh, I think it's reasonable to expect someone, if they're going to come forward with an accusation, to do it, I don't know, within what, like, a decade?

00:08:15.000 Two decades?

00:08:16.520 I mean, sometime before the middle of the third decade?

00:08:20.620 I think that's reasonable.

00:08:21.800 I think if 35 years have passed, and you haven't said anything by now, then I think it's reasonable to say, well, you know, it's, it's, it's kind of too late.

00:08:32.040 It's too late to come forward with this.

00:08:34.500 You, you had, you had 35 years to do it, and you didn't.

00:08:40.820 So, to do it now, it can't accomplish anything except, except cause much chaos, hurt this guy's reputation, but that's all it can do.

00:08:49.400 You, you can't prove anything.

00:08:52.340 To come out publicly against somebody 35 years later with a vague memory, I mean, I think in most cases, it's, it's, it's not right to do that.

00:09:05.440 And notice how she remembers all these details except the two that would allow him to vindicate himself and prove his innocence.

00:09:13.320 Okay, so she remembers all this stuff.

00:09:15.700 She doesn't remember exactly where or when, though.

00:09:19.400 That seems kind of convenient to me because those are the two details that could potentially allow him to prove that he was innocent because he could say, oh, well, I was at, you know, I was, I was, I was overseas in France.

00:09:31.880 I mean, we, I was on vacation with my parents in, in Canada on, on that day.

00:09:37.220 Or, you know, he could, I mean, potentially he could maybe prove his, or you could, or, or on the other hand, if you had an exact day and, and location, then that would allow you to find some evidence to prove his guilt.

00:09:49.740 But when somebody said, when it's, when it's, when it's, even if it's not, I mean, think even, even if it's like 10 years later, five years later, a year later, and somebody says, well, sometime within a span of like, you know, sometime with, within this large span of time, in some location in the general vicinity of this county.

00:10:13.520 Um, you know, this person did this thing.

00:10:16.660 Well, there's just no way, there's no way for someone, if someone said about you that between 10 and 15 years ago, in this general vicinity of this, of this particular county, you did a horrible thing.

00:10:33.460 There would be absolutely no way for you to prove your innocence.

00:10:38.560 You could not do it.

00:10:41.640 Because it's just, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's too broad of a timeframe.

00:10:47.980 Um, so it's just, it's not, it's just not right.

00:10:52.480 I don't think it's right.

00:10:56.260 I mean, at the very least, if you're going to come out 35 years later, you should have every last detail down.

00:11:01.960 Starting with when and where, if you don't even have that, I, I, if you don't even have that, that I don't, I don't know how you come forward.

00:11:14.340 Um, now I think, you know, liberals are saying that, um, and if you go, you know, if you, if you, if you go online or go on Twitter, uh, the, the phrase that you're going to see repeated over and over again is credibly accused.

00:11:31.960 Right.

00:11:32.460 They're saying, um, that Kavanaugh has been credibly accused, which is just a real, which is just a, which is just another way of them saying that he's guilty.

00:11:40.980 You know, when you say credibly accused, um, it's, it's just another way of, of, of, of straight up saying the guy's guilt, credibly accused.

00:11:48.700 So it's a, it's a euphemism for guilty, but we're told that this is a credible act.

00:11:54.820 This is a credible accusation, an accusation that's 35 years old.

00:11:58.320 Don't know exactly when don't know exactly where both the other witnesses have denied it.

00:12:02.500 That's a credible accusation.

00:12:04.760 Supposedly.

00:12:05.160 I don't know if I would call that a credible accusation, but then you could say, well, if that's not a credible accusation, what is, I'm, I'm glad that you asked.

00:12:16.580 Um, just that, just by way, this is not a, what about thing is not what about isn't, but just because we're throwing around terms like credible accusation, I think it could be helpful to, to look at what an actual credible accusation looks like.

00:12:30.440 So for that, I go to Juanita Broderick, who, um, accused Bill Clinton, as I think everyone knows now, accused Bill Clinton of violently raping her.

00:12:43.980 This was not an attempted rape.

00:12:45.560 This was violent, actual rape that Bill Clinton is alleged to have, um, alleged to have done to, to Juanita Broderick.

00:12:54.240 Now, let me, this is actually, um, uh, funny enough, this is from BuzzFeed.

00:13:00.680 Okay.

00:13:00.940 BuzzFeed did an, did a, actually did a, a, a very thorough article a couple of years ago about this accusation.

00:13:07.260 So let me read just their description of, um, of what happened, of, of the accusation itself from Juanita Broderick.

00:13:16.920 Okay.

00:13:18.380 Uh, Broderick, this is the accusation.

00:13:21.020 Broderick, then 35, first met Bill Clinton when he was 31 and the attorney general of Arkansas during a campaign stop he made at her nursing home where she worked.

00:13:30.680 Um, they discussed her business and his campaign.

00:13:34.000 Broderick wasn't much into politics, but she had recently started volunteering for him with a friend.

00:13:37.540 And Clinton told Broderick to call his office if she was ever, ever in nearby Little Rock.

00:13:41.740 A few weeks, a few weeks later, she did just that while attending a nursing seminar there. 0.64

00:13:45.880 They arranged to meet one morning in the coffee shop in the hotel where the seminar was held.

00:13:50.860 At the last second, Clinton called up to Broderick's room and asked if they could meet there instead, since there were reporters in the lobby below.

00:13:59.860 She said yes.

00:14:01.200 Minutes after entering her room, he tried to kiss her, she says, biting her upper lip hard.

00:14:05.860 Shocked, Broderick says, she resisted Clinton, even telling her she was not only married, but having an affair with another man, who would later become her second husband. 0.94

00:14:14.520 He ignored her, she says, and pushed her on the bed and raped her. 0.92

00:14:19.180 Afterward, she says, he put his sunglasses on and told her to get some ice for her swollen lip before leaving the room. 0.90

00:14:25.360 There was no remorse, Broderick told me.

00:14:27.560 He acted like it was an everyday occurrence.

00:14:29.380 He was not the least bit apologetic.

00:14:30.980 It was just unreal.

00:14:31.700 She rushed to the door and locked it, she says, afraid.

00:14:36.260 Afraid that someone would come back to kill her.

00:14:39.080 Two of Broderick's friends, who had also attended the nursing conference, found Broderick in tears, her lips swollen and blue.

00:14:45.920 She told them what had happened, but made them swear not to tell anyone else.

00:14:49.460 She was scared of retaliation, didn't think anyone would believe her, and blamed herself for allowing Clinton to come up into her room.

00:14:54.660 I had never known anyone that had been raped, she told me.

00:15:00.680 I could not imagine anybody that could get in that situation and not get out of it.

00:15:04.420 Soon after, Broderick says, she ran into Hillary Clinton at a political rally, and Hillary shook her hand and thanked her for everything she had done for Bill.

00:15:14.040 To Broderick, the gesture felt like a threat to stay silent.

00:15:17.420 As Attorney General and later Governor, Bill Clinton was, quote, the main person that regulated my business and my income, Broderick said.

00:15:23.840 And after she said, after she said what she did to me, I just thought, I will keep quiet.

00:15:29.360 Okay, so, what makes that credible while the accusation against Kavanaugh is not as credible?

00:15:41.540 Well, quite a few things.

00:15:43.520 Number one, she remembers exactly where and when it happened.

00:15:48.660 She remembers all the details.

00:15:51.520 She remembers how she ended up there.

00:15:53.240 She remembers everything.

00:15:57.320 Number two, she told two people about it moments after it happened.

00:16:04.060 And not only that, those people found her bruised and bloodied.

00:16:09.320 So, those are two really important aspects of this whole thing.

00:16:14.700 Number three, she has a reason. 0.73

00:16:18.080 She has a rational reason.

00:16:20.580 Now, she didn't come public with these accusations, I don't think, for another until like 98, 99.

00:16:25.280 So, for her, it was about 20 years before she came out publicly with these accusations.

00:16:31.180 But she didn't wait 20 years to tell anybody.

00:16:33.800 She didn't even, I mean, she waited hardly even 20 minutes to tell anybody.

00:16:37.140 She did tell her friends.

00:16:37.980 But it makes sense why she would have waited 20 years.

00:16:44.760 And she said it right there.

00:16:45.620 First of all, she felt like Bill Clinton's wife was threatening her.

00:16:49.200 Second, Bill Clinton exercised a lot of control over her personally, given what she did for living in his position.

00:16:54.940 Third, he was a very powerful man as attorney general.

00:16:58.180 He became even more powerful as governor.

00:17:00.260 And then he became even more powerful as president.

00:17:03.380 So, she was worried about the power that he had and about what she felt was an underhanded threat from his wife.

00:17:16.040 So, we have that.

00:17:17.000 So, we have exact day and time and location.

00:17:20.800 We have, she reported it to two other people right after it happened.

00:17:26.140 And she has an actual reason she can get for why she didn't tell anybody.

00:17:31.840 And then the fourth thing, which is also really important, that this fits a pattern of behavior.

00:17:39.100 There are several other women who came out and accused Bill Clinton as well. 1.00

00:17:45.440 And so, we have an established pattern of behavior where it's pretty much an accepted fact that Bill Clinton is a sexual deviant scumbag. 0.99

00:17:56.140 So, with all of those things taken into consideration, the evidence is overwhelming. 0.99

00:18:04.960 That there's really, there's actually no reason to disbelieve Juanita Broderick.

00:18:10.760 There's no rational, reasonable justification for disbelieving her.

00:18:15.100 It is, the evidence is overwhelmingly in her favor.

00:18:18.780 So, that unless you are a total partisan hack, you would, you would believe Juanita Broderick. 0.98

00:18:32.440 Because in Juanita Broderick's case, it's, it's her word, along with all the other women that accused Bill Clinton, against Bill Clinton, who he knows is a pathological liar and sexual deviant. 0.95

00:18:44.080 So, it's just, I mean, there's, again, there's no reason not to believe it. 0.93

00:18:48.780 It's entirely a different case with Christine Ford and Judge Kavanaugh.

00:18:56.060 Doesn't remember, remember, doesn't remember exactly when, doesn't remember exactly where.

00:19:02.140 There was alcohol, you know, she admits herself that I believe that she was drinking as well.

00:19:05.780 There was alcohol involved.

00:19:07.260 They were both kids.

00:19:08.120 It was 35 years ago.

00:19:09.220 She didn't tell anyone for at least 30 years.

00:19:11.020 No other women have come forward.

00:19:14.760 There, there, there, there's, as far as we know, there is no established pattern of behavior here.

00:19:17.820 No other women have come forward to accuse him.

00:19:20.040 So, it is entirely her word against his.

00:19:23.200 And he's also got plenty of other women who knew him at the time and have vouched for his character.

00:19:28.140 So, it's just, in his case, I think the, the evidence is much more in his favor.

00:19:33.520 Um, and so, that's the difference.

00:19:37.500 That's a credible accusation versus a not-so-credible accusation.

00:19:43.080 So, if you are among the many liberals who have found Christine Ford's accusations very credible,

00:19:53.240 yet somehow Juanita Broderick's accusations not credible,

00:19:56.060 then you really need to look in your heart, um, and in your mind to figure out what's going on with you.

00:20:03.320 Because there's something going seriously wrong with you in that case.

00:20:07.280 You have been totally blinded by your partisan affiliations.

00:20:12.040 Um, which is, which is shameful.

00:20:16.240 All right, I'll leave it there.

00:20:17.420 Thanks for watching, everybody.

00:20:18.280 Thanks for listening.

00:20:18.860 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - September 18, 2018

Ep. 106 - Are The Accusations Credible？

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