The Matt Walsh Show - September 20, 2018


Ep. 107 - The #MeToo Movement Has Overstayed Its Welcome


Episode Stats

Length

19 minutes

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169.61552

Word Count

3,269

Sentence Count

172

Misogynist Sentences

14

Hate Speech Sentences

9


Summary

The case against Brett Kavanaugh is falling apart more and more with each passing hour, and the allegations are just unraveling. The smear merchants who concocted this character assassination crusade are looking around for a way to jump on the bandwagon before it s too late.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 The case against Brett Kavanaugh is falling apart more and more with each passing hour,
00:00:05.880 and the allegations are just unraveling, and the smear merchants who concocted this character
00:00:11.660 assassination crusade are looking around, it seems, for a way to jump off the bandwagon before it's
00:00:17.080 too late. They're like that gif, and it is gif, by the way, not jif, of Homer Simpson backing away
00:00:22.120 into the bushes. That's kind of like what some of the Democrats are doing. I think when you look at
00:00:25.820 everything that's happened, when you look at everything that's happened with this
00:00:30.660 Brett Kavanaugh thing, you see all of the problems with the Me Too movement kind of encapsulated in
00:00:37.180 this one thing. Now, all of those problems, and they're very significant problems with the Me Too
00:00:42.080 movement, they didn't just rear their ugly head for the first time this week. They've been there
00:00:46.740 all along, but if somehow you never noticed them before, I think now anyone with two brain cells
00:00:52.540 can see, because all of those, all of the problems have been sort of illustrated in the last one or
00:00:59.620 two weeks, enough that even just this isolated by itself, even just the last one or two weeks,
00:01:05.780 I think would be enough, should be enough, to discredit the Me Too movement, and maybe hopefully,
00:01:12.980 you know, cause us to look away from that and return some semblance of rationality and sanity
00:01:21.080 to the conversation about sexual assault and harassment, because it is a very important
00:01:25.020 conversation, and that's my, precisely my problem with the Me Too movement, is that the Me Too movement
00:01:29.920 has ended the conversation about, it didn't start the conversation, it hasn't enhanced the conversation
00:01:34.960 or facilitated it, it has ended the conversation because we're not allowed to have a conversation
00:01:39.360 anymore about it with the Me Too movement. Now there's a narrative, and all you're allowed to do is
00:01:44.000 stick to the narrative, you're not allowed to actually, you know, ask any questions or make any points
00:01:48.740 or anything like that. So hopefully now, most of us can see that. In fact, I think, again, not just from
00:02:00.460 the last two weeks, but in general, I think there are at least, there are at least six significant
00:02:09.060 problems with the Me Too movement, and six good reasons why it should end. Which isn't to say that
00:02:18.340 our opposition to sexual assault should end, because I don't know about you, I've always been opposed to
00:02:24.120 it. I didn't need the Me Too movement to tell me to be opposed to sexual assault. I've always been
00:02:27.660 opposed to it from the beginning. So I'm not saying that should end, but this thing called the Me Too
00:02:33.160 movement should end, and I'll give you six reasons for that. Number one, Me Too does not allow sexual
00:02:41.760 assault allegations to be evaluated on a case-by-case basis. So the first and biggest problem with the
00:02:48.120 Me Too movement is that it is a movement. And because of Me Too, every alleged instance of sexual
00:02:56.240 impropriety is lumped with every other alleged instance, and they're all kind of mixed together into this
00:03:01.840 stew, and each separate allegation is then not seen as a separate allegation, but as an element or
00:03:08.000 ingredient in this stew. And that's a pretty big problem. If we're going to get to the truth of any
00:03:14.840 particular case, and if we're going to be fair to the accuser and fair to the accused, we cannot look
00:03:21.700 at each case as another plot point in an overall narrative. We cannot see, you know, Brett Kavanaugh,
00:03:28.900 we can't see Brett Kavanaugh in the context of this movement or this narrative. You have to look at
00:03:36.420 Brett Kavanaugh as an individual person, and Christine Ford's an individual person, and their
00:03:41.680 case is an individual case. That's how it has to be evaluated. Brett Kavanaugh is not just the man
00:03:48.080 character accused of abusing the woman character as if these are just broad sort of archetypes. No, he's an
00:03:55.620 individual person, and she's an individual person, and their situation is an individual situation,
00:04:00.180 which has absolutely no relationship to Harvey Weinstein or Bill Cosby or any other famous
00:04:06.020 pervert. Got no relationship whatsoever. They're not connected even a little bit. So when you say
00:04:12.080 me too, when you say, oh, well, this is Brett Kavanaugh's me too thing, you have just taken him and put him
00:04:17.900 alongside all these other guys. This is not some conspiracy among all of them, okay? He's a
00:04:26.220 completely separate situation. You know, this week I've heard several women say in the media, in fact,
00:04:33.520 one of Christine Ford's friends was interviewed by CNN last night, and she has no knowledge
00:04:39.560 whatsoever of this situation, which actually should tell you something. The fact that she's a friend of
00:04:45.400 Christine Ford had never heard about this before, but, you know, she was saying this thing that I've
00:04:51.000 heard other women say, other, you know, women that are supporters of the Me Too movement, where they've
00:04:56.040 said, well, you know, I don't know if Brett Kavanaugh is guilty, but I do know that those kinds of boys,
00:05:04.300 you know, growing up, I did know those kinds of boys, and I was aware of those kinds of situations
00:05:11.120 happening, but see, that, you know, I'm sorry that you knew those kinds of boys, if we're talking about
00:05:17.640 those kinds of boys as in rapists, and if you knew about those kinds of situations, I'm sorry, you know,
00:05:22.200 that's unfortunate. I'm sorry that you grew up around those kinds of boys, but see, that's not how
00:05:29.020 we can, we don't, that's the problem. We can't look at this situation through that lens. Brett Kavanaugh
00:05:35.820 is not a kind, okay, he's not a kind of person. He's just a person, and this thing, if it happened,
00:05:46.360 which I don't think it did, is not a kind of thing, it's just, it's a thing. We're dealing with
00:05:51.600 specific people and specific circumstances. It is impossible to be objective and rational
00:05:56.480 if we're looking at it through a narrative lens. If we're looking at it, oh, well, he's just that kind,
00:06:01.580 and this is that kind of situation. No, that's not right. Second thing, the second problem with
00:06:10.680 Me Too, Me Too does not acknowledge the possibility that women can lie. As we have established,
00:06:19.380 it is a problem when we start making movements and narratives out of our opposition to sexual
00:06:26.460 assault. Like, we're all opposed to sexual assault, fine, but when you make that into a movement,
00:06:31.580 when you make it into a narrative, it's a problem, and it's even more a problem in this case when you
00:06:37.200 consider what the narrative is telling us, namely, that women don't lie about these kinds of things.
00:06:44.620 Believe women is what the Me Too crusaders shout. They say, believe women. Well, no, I don't believe
00:06:50.520 women. I got news for you. I don't believe women. I don't believe men either. I believe individual
00:06:56.460 people, regardless of their gender, if there are good and empirical reasons to believe them.
00:07:04.000 So, no, I don't have a blanket policy of believing women any more than I have a blanket policy of
00:07:09.660 believing men or a blanket policy of believing, you know, people with brown hair. It just doesn't
00:07:15.380 make it, that makes no, that has no bearing. Their, their, you know, their biological sex and their,
00:07:24.360 you know, their demographic has no bearing on whether or not they're lying. So, it's just the
00:07:30.780 stupidest thing in the world to believe women. What do you mean by, women lie, just like men lie.
00:07:36.660 You know, men and women, all people lie. So, if you're going to say, well, women don't lie. Well,
00:07:40.520 of course they lie. Everyone lies. Now, whether or not a particular woman has lied about this
00:07:46.900 particular thing, well, now we got to look at the situation and come to that determination.
00:07:51.560 But you can't make it, you can't have any blanket assumptions about which gender is more likely to
00:07:56.680 lie. It just doesn't make any sense. So, when you say, and I've also been told, you know, someone,
00:08:02.240 I saw someone on Facebook linked to an article and the title of the article is, women don't lie about
00:08:07.900 rape. Well, you know, I may as well say that men don't rape. Just because most men would never rape
00:08:15.940 doesn't mean that any specific man who was accused of rape didn't rape. Just like, just because most
00:08:22.700 women would lie about rape, that doesn't mean that every single woman who says that she was raped
00:08:27.360 isn't lying. See, it's just, this is a very obvious point that the Me Too movement has intentionally
00:08:34.240 obscured. You know what it is? It's dog. This is what it is. I'll tell you, it's dogma. Okay.
00:08:41.480 When you have movements, when you have ideological movements, what you end up with is dogmas. You end
00:08:47.560 up with essentially points of doctrine. And you just, with, with something like this, you cannot go
00:08:54.300 into it with a dogma or with a doctrine. And so one of the doctrines of, uh, of the Me Too movement
00:09:01.020 is that women don't lie, which is, which is, is insane, first of all, but obviously when that's
00:09:07.400 your doctrine, there's, you can't, there's no way for you to, you're not analyzing, you can't analyze
00:09:11.940 the situation. You're not analyzing it. What you're doing is you're just taking it and you're applying
00:09:15.920 your doctrine to it and, uh, you're making a proclamation. Number three, um, Me Too equates every
00:09:24.480 kind of sexual misdeed with every other kind. And so we've already talked about how, you know,
00:09:29.860 the Me Too movement equates all different men, you know, equates, um, every kind of man with
00:09:36.380 every other kind. All accused men are lumped together and equated with each other. So that
00:09:42.180 happens. But then also every kind of accusation, every kind of alleged sexual impropriety is
00:09:50.920 lumped and mixed together with every other. So that a woman who alleges actual rape is mixed
00:09:56.960 with women alleging inappropriate comments or alleging that a man groped them or alleging
00:10:02.640 that, um, a man came on to them too aggressively, um, or that a man made, uh, awkward attempts at
00:10:09.800 flirting. You know, all of these very, very different sorts of things are put together and
00:10:17.280 the Me Too movement mixes them all together. Again, there's that stew and this is just another,
00:10:22.000 this is me. I'm mixing the stew right now. If you're not, that's what this is. This is the Me Too
00:10:26.620 stew. Um, but all of these, all of these things are mixed together in the stew and it just, so you
00:10:33.680 can't make any sense of it, but they don't belong. You know, rape is one thing. So you've got like
00:10:42.840 on the spectrum, you've got rape over here. Uh, it's, it's obviously the worst kind of sexual
00:10:50.580 abuse. One of the worst things in the world that exists. And so you've got that. And then way down
00:10:57.320 over there, you've got like, um, inappropriate comment or a man clumsily trying to come on to a
00:11:04.840 woman or flirt with her, you know, so that that's all the way over there. And then in fact, they're not
00:11:09.960 even really part of the same spectrum to, to say, you know, to, to, to put them on a spectrum at all
00:11:15.160 is to insinuate that, well, if a man is flirting with a woman, he's only a few steps away, away from
00:11:20.700 rape as if that will logically lead to that, which it doesn't. So there, there actually is no spectrum
00:11:28.300 in between these things. There's that. And then there's a wide cavern, a gulf. And then over there,
00:11:36.680 you've got flirting. The problem with the Me Too movement is that they have created this spectrum
00:11:42.940 and they've put all these things onto it. And then they've also kind of bunched them together
00:11:48.040 so that they're almost indistinguishable. So that's a problem. Number two, uh, number four,
00:11:55.080 I should say, uh, I don't know how to count. Number four, the Me Too movement is tainted by politics.
00:11:59.800 Now it's true that, um, they've gone after liberal men in Hollywood. So give them credit for that. But
00:12:07.060 it is, um, they've also mostly left alone liberal men in politics. And so obviously with this Kavanaugh
00:12:15.600 thing, this is 100% politically motivated. And once, you know, when you claim that you're on a crusade
00:12:22.740 against sexual assault, once it becomes apparent that your crusade is politically motivated,
00:12:30.580 well, then the crusade is completely discredited. So we can even leave aside everything else I've
00:12:34.900 said so far. This point alone is you have discredited. The Me Too movement has discredited
00:12:39.340 itself by jumping on the Kavanaugh thing that, that alone, because of, because of the politics in it,
00:12:44.660 because we all know that if this was Merrick Garland, Garland, or if this was any, you know,
00:12:51.340 if this was any, um, democratic, uh, nominee, this, none of this would have happened. We all know that.
00:13:01.320 And we also know that, um, and this is not a, this is not a, a what about thing. This is not what
00:13:09.700 about is, but it's just pointing out the political nature of the Me Too movement, because then you
00:13:16.840 also have Bill Clinton, who was very credibly accused of brutally raping a woman and was also
00:13:25.100 very credibly accused of abusing many other women in many different ways. And yet he still has not had
00:13:35.180 his Me Too moment, has he? Because it's politically motivated. Number five. Um, I think this is really
00:13:45.580 important. The Me Too movement infantilizes women. Now it's true, of course, that, uh, there have been
00:13:55.040 many women who have been raped and, um, and then have come forward and they've been shamed and smeared
00:14:00.560 for coming forward. And that's a horrible, evil thing, horrible and evil, absolutely evil.
00:14:06.640 And those women are victims and they're survivors and in more than one sense. But you notice how now
00:14:12.700 even a woman who's sexually harassed or a woman who has to rebuff advances of a man, um, or we'll say
00:14:19.940 even a woman who's, let's say, you know, groped or something, which, which is a horrible thing.
00:14:24.080 Don't get me wrong. But, but now even those women, we call them survivors. They're survivors.
00:14:29.020 You know, Dennis Prager wrote a column, I think it was in the National Review yesterday, where he made
00:14:34.180 the point that like, it used to be survivor meant that you survived the Holocaust. Okay. Survivor meant
00:14:40.840 that you, uh, you, uh, survived, um, you know, cancer or something. But now a woman, a woman hears an
00:14:49.000 inappropriate comment from her boss in 1973, and we say she's a survivor. You know, it's just, it's,
00:14:55.160 it's ridiculous. It's infantilizing. Number one, number two, it is, it is unfair to the women who
00:15:03.880 are actually survivors, women who have really been abused, assaulted, raped. Um, those women are
00:15:10.380 survivors, as I said, in more than one way. But once again, you have this lumping together that
00:15:17.360 happens. And, um, so we talk about, we say, well, the me too survivors. And we understand that when
00:15:25.240 we say that we could be talking, we could be talking about women who were raped. We could also
00:15:27.980 be talking about a woman who, you know, in 1987 had an uncomfortable exchange with, uh, with a guy
00:15:33.760 at work. We could be talking about that as well. And it's just, it's ridiculous, frankly. And also,
00:15:40.540 um, you know, the other problem with, and this is part of the infantilizing where we're not allowed
00:15:51.760 to expect women to take any responsibility for their own actions. And this is just a conversation
00:16:00.500 you're not allowed to have because of the me too movement. But in some of these cases, you hear
00:16:05.260 about cases where, where a woman, uh, is in an awkward situation, but chooses not to remove
00:16:10.400 herself from it. Like Louis CK, um, says, I'm going to take my pants off and start, um, touching
00:16:17.320 myself. And the woman and the women decide to stay, sit there rather than just getting up and leaving
00:16:23.120 the room. Um, or you have the, you know, the, the Aziz Ansari thing where a woman comes up to the,
00:16:30.420 to the, uh, to his apartment with him chooses to do these various sexual things later says that she
00:16:39.100 felt uncomfortable and awkward, but she didn't want to leave. Well, but that's, you know, if we're
00:16:43.700 not infantilizing people, then what we need to say is, well, in that situation, you need to just
00:16:48.080 leave. You need to take some responsibility for yourself. And if you're not, if you're off, if you're,
00:16:54.180 if you're uncomfortable, which I don't blame you for being uncomfortable, leave the situation.
00:16:58.280 But because of the Me Too movement, we're not allowed, what I'm saying right now, I'm not allowed
00:17:02.400 to say it, even though we all know it's true because we all think the same things. When you
00:17:06.940 hear some of these cases and you think, well, why didn't you leave? What are you doing? Why didn't
00:17:10.420 you just pick, get, get up and leave? It's not to say, it's not to blame you. It's not to say it's
00:17:14.940 your fault. The man who's being a pig and being disgusting, he, he, he deserves a hundred percent of
00:17:19.820 the blame. But if we're actually trying to empower people, then we need to also say, listen,
00:17:26.900 if you're in an uncomfortable spot, leave. Um, and then the sixth thing is Me Too is just mass
00:17:34.620 hysteria. Um, and this just ties back to everything else I've said that, you know, with the Me Too
00:17:41.060 movement, it's, it, it does not allow for a reasonable discussion, doesn't allow for a
00:17:46.420 discussion at all. You're not allowed to make any of the points that I just made, especially the last
00:17:50.660 one about, you know, um, about, about taking responsibility and being accountable for your
00:17:58.740 actions. You're not allowed to say that. You're not allowed to ask, um, very basic questions
00:18:04.760 because it's just, it's hysteria. And that's what hysteria is all about.
00:18:10.180 Where you have to jump on the bandwagon and pick up the pitchfork and go in whatever direction
00:18:15.240 the mob is going. If you try to say, Hey, well, hold on a second. If you try to, you know,
00:18:22.400 introduce a little nuance subtlety to the conversation and say, Hey, I agree that there
00:18:27.840 are some horrible things happening to women. We got to talk about that. But, um, you know,
00:18:32.900 what about this point? But you're not allowed to do that. So when you take all these factors into
00:18:39.920 consideration and you see what happens when they all come together and land on a guy, like what
00:18:46.500 happened to Brett Kavanaugh, I think when you consider that, it's clear to me that the Me Too
00:18:49.900 movement just needs to end, which again, does not mean that our opposition to sexual assault ends.
00:18:58.620 I don't need the Me Too movement for that. I don't need them to tell me that it's wrong.
00:19:02.220 I don't think you do either. But, um, this thing that we call the Me Too movement, I think has way
00:19:09.560 overstayed its welcome at this point. And it's doing more harm than good. Thanks for watching
00:19:14.960 everybody. Thanks for listening. Godspeed.