Ep. 1110 - Democrats Try To Ambush Me At A Hearing, Fail Hilariously
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Today on the Matt Walsh Show, I testified at a committee hearing to support a bill banning child mutilation. The pro-mutilation Democrats on the hearing took the opportunity to ambush me, but it didn t work out quite the way they planned. We'll play the clips and I'll tell you all about my experience today. Also, AOC defames Libs of TikTok at a congressional hearing in DC, we'll do the fact check that the fact-checkers won't do on that defamation, and Airbnb bans the parents of a conservative commentator, then backtracks. Plus, the school is forced to apologize after serving chicken and waffles for Black History Month. We ll try to figure out how a delicious meal could possibly be offensive.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, I testified at a committee hearing to support a bill
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banning child mutilation. The pro-mutilation Democrats on the hearing took the opportunity
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to ambush me, but it didn't work out quite the way they planned. We'll play the clips and
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I'll tell you all about my experience today. Also, AOC defames libs of TikTok at a committee
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hearing in DC. We'll do the fact check that the fact checkers won't do on that defamation. And
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Airbnb bans the parents of a conservative commentator, then backtracks. Plus, the school
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is forced to apologize after serving chicken and waffles for Black History Month.
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We'll try to figure out how a delicious meal could possibly be offensive. All of that
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Yesterday, I had the opportunity to testify at a House committee hearing to voice my support for
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legislation banning the castration and mutilation of children in Tennessee. Now, I've addressed school
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boards in the past, as you know, but this was my first time in front of any kind of legislative
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committee. So it was an interesting learning experience, kind of like my own schoolhouse rock
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sort of experience. And one of the key differences here is that in my school board speeches, I've spoken
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out against policies and measures that the boards were wanting to put into place or had already put
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into place. In this case, however, I was speaking in favor of a bill that the majority of the
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legislature has already expressed support for. So I didn't need to convince them of what they already
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believe or urge them to do what they're already going to do, but rather my plan was simply to
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add my voice of support as a citizen of the state. Now, you may be understandably concerned based on
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that description that my appearance in front of this committee must have been rather boring and lacking
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the kind of fireworks that you might expect and hope for. Well, allow me to allay those fears, because
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fortunately for you, there were a few Democrats in the room who, though on the losing side of this
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issue, were still determined to use my appearance as an opportunity to try and score some points with
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their own base. So after I delivered my brief remarks and all the other witnesses, there were three
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others on the anti-mutilation side and four on the pro-mutilation side. They had their turns also to
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speak. And then the lawmakers on the committee had the chance to ask us questions. And the first question
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came from a Republican who had a very fair and relevant query about the oft-repeated claim, which we also
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heard from other witnesses during the testimonies, that medically affirming quote-unquote
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trans-identified youth is necessary to decrease their suicide rate. And because this is the thing that got
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everything kicked off, I want to play this clip for, it's a little bit long, but it's also, it's an
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important point too. So here's my answer to his question. Just a quick question for you. We've heard
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in the news last week and even today that it's pro-life to vote against this bill. We've heard that
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suicides are prevalent and suicide has impacted my family. So I'm sensitive when I hear
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something like that. I've read some of the stuff that you've done and I was wondering, can you speak
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to the statistics of mental health and suicidal tendencies for the people who have gone through
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transition or for people who have not? In your studies, from what I've read, can you speak to
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that? Sure. Sure. Well, the claim that, you know, doing the chemical castration drugs or surgery or
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hormonal intervention, the claim that this prevents suicide or has positive psychological
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effects down the line is utterly, totally baseless. There are no credible long-term studies that bear
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that out. And one of the reasons for that is that there couldn't possibly be any credible long-term
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studies because we've never done this to kids on this scale ever before in history. So this current,
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shall we say, crop of children, they are the guinea pigs. This is all experimental. We're sort of trying
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it out on them to see if it works. Now, they have attempted a few times to do studies. And the
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interesting thing is that the World Professional Association of Transgender Health, WPATH, which is
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a radical far-left pro-trans organization, they commissioned a study to try to prove that hormones
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and puberty blockers decreased suicide rates among trans-identified youth. And even in their own study,
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they found that they couldn't prove it. They couldn't make that link because it's just not
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possible to do. The other thing I would mention too is that, you know, the number of trans-identified
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youth has skyrocketed in recent years. We're talking about exponential 10x, 20x growth. Just huge
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numbers have increased. And what we hear from the pro-trans side is that, well, this is not a social
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contagion. It's just that, you know, there's always been this many trans people. It's just that they were
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not in an affirming environment before in history. And so they couldn't come out. And now for the
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first time, trans people have the ability to live their truth, so to speak. Well, if that's the case,
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and there have always been these sort of like millions of trans people, and if it's also true
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that if we don't affirm them, that it would cause them to commit suicide, then we should be able to
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look back in history and find just this unbroken, incredible epidemic of children mysteriously killing
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themselves because they weren't being affirmed as trans. And what you find is that that didn't exist.
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I mean, the youth suicide rate has increased exponentially alongside trans affirmation.
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So trans affirmation causes the suicide rate, not the other way around. Last thing I'll note is that
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the suicide rate among trans-identified people is sky high. It remains sky high. All the data shows this.
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It remains sky high even after surgery. And in fact, in the most reliable day that we have,
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it's years after surgery when suicidality is the highest for trans-identified people.
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That's the reality. Now, so you see all that. I make a number of claims and arguments in that answer,
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just as I did in my initial remarks, that the Democrats on the panel had the opportunity to
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refute. If indeed I was wrong about anything I said and can be refuted, then they had the chance to do
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it. But they couldn't refute it. They had nothing to say, which, as we've learned about Democrats,
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will certainly not stop them from talking. So the next question, or what pretended to be a question,
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came from a greasy little hack named Caleb Hemmer, who rather than discuss the issue at hand,
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instead decided to try and smear me with that Media Matters hit piece from my time as a shock jock
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morning host 15 years ago. What does that have to do with anything? What did he think he would
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accomplish with this? Well, we'll find out. Thank you, Mr. Walsh. I found it interesting. One of our
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people testified today that they had their gender affirming surgery at 16. And I know you in former
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comments mentioned this on your blog at about 16, you're an adult who's mature and can make decisions.
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You're that at 16. I don't care what anybody says, even going so far as to say, you know, 16 people,
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when you're 16, you should be married and could be pregnant or should be pregnant. So I'm curious if
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16 is an adult, in your view. Why does this bill have the minor defined as 18?
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Yeah, that's a hit piece you took from Media Matters, from something when I was a radio host
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13, 14 years ago, in my early 20s. It's also not an accurate reflection of what I actually said.
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I was talking about the fact that people tended to marry young historically, and that's all that
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that was about. How does that relate to this subject?
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Just curious of your definition of if you feel like people are adults at 16, should...
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Well, people are adults at 18. But actually, your brain is not fully developed until you're 25.
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So we should be having a conversation about whether we should even be doing these surgeries
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to people at 18. But certainly before 18, it's absurd. I mean, do you think that a 16-year-old
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can meaningfully consent to having their body parts removed?
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We do not. Yeah, we asked the questions. It's not...
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So, that was one gloriously awkward silence, even more so for those of us in the room. Actually,
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you can't see it from that camera angle on the clip exactly, but Caleb sat back away from the
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microphone when I asked him that question, and he kind of looked off to the side, almost like he was
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trying to pretend he didn't hear the question. It was a bizarre scene, but not so bizarre when you
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consider that I had asked a question that Caleb Hemmer simply could not answer. He obviously couldn't
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say, no, that 16-year-olds can't consent to having body parts removed, because then he'd be agreeing
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with me and with the legislation. He doesn't want to do that. But he also didn't want to come out and
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say, yes, that 16-year-olds can consent, because that sounds horrific and insane when said out loud,
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and it puts him in the position of having to explicitly defend a totally indefensible proposition.
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You'll notice that leftists, they often find themselves in this kind of situation.
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They hold many views that they cannot say out loud. Their actual positions on the issues are
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often so deranged, so inconceivably gross, so morally vacuous and incoherent that you can defeat
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them in an argument simply by asking them to clearly state their own premise. Of course,
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what this means is that leftists themselves, leftists like Caleb Hemmer, they themselves realize
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how evil their own policies are. They are deliberately pushing things that they recognize
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as unspeakably wicked, which is why they will not speak it out loud. And this puts people like Caleb
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Hemmer somewhere below mere partisan hacks. You've got partisan hacks, and then it's below them that you
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have the Caleb Hemmers of the world. Because these are people who are consciously evil, which also
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explains why they would resort to smear tactics against a private citizen at a legislative hearing.
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Keep in mind, by the way, that I was not there as an author of the bill, nor was I testifying as
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some sort of accredited expert. I didn't stand up there and say, I'm a medical expert and a doctor,
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and this is what, in fact, I introduced myself as, I'm a citizen of Tennessee, I'm a husband and a
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father, and this is how I feel about this. A citizen of Tennessee who supports the bill.
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And this is supposed to be a democracy, they tell me, right? So the point is that even if they could
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succeed in tearing me down and embarrassing me, which sadly for them, they didn't, how would that
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remotely come close to proving that the legislation is bad? Now, if you're wondering how Caleb Hemmer
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will recover from this humiliation, well, he'll do it, or he'll try to do it, the most weaselly and
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dishonest way possible, of course. So shortly after the hearing, Ben Shapiro posted that full exchange
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that you just watched, and he posted it to Twitter. Hemmer responded to the post with a link to a
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different video, which he urged people to watch instead to see what, quote, really went down.
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Now, that video was an edited montage by an obscure left-wing propaganda rag called the Tennessee
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Holler. And what they did is they took all the questions that the, and not really questions,
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but statements that the Democrats on the committee hearing made to me. And they spliced all that
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together, and then cut out most of my responses. And then anything else that may have been especially
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embarrassing for the Democrats, and pasted all the rest of it together with a bunch of very obvious
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jump cuts and posted that. So Hemmer, therefore, is actually claiming that an edited montage without
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my responses is a more accurate reflection of what actually transpired than the full unedited clip.
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That's how shameless this guy is. By the way, if you're concerned about his lack of honesty,
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and this lack of honesty from an elected official, or perhaps you're not satisfied with his refusal to
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answer my simple question, you could always reach out to him on any of his social media channels. And
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look, I'm not telling you. I want to be very clear about this. I am not telling you that I want you all
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to spam his Twitter and his Facebook and Instagram, that I want hundreds of comments and everything
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attacking him. I'm not. I could not tell you to do that. I couldn't tell you to do that.
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I just want to make sure that you have his information so that you can reach out to him
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to express your concerns. Again, he's an elected official. So you can find him on Twitter at
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Caleb Hemmer, that's C-A-L-E-B-H-E-M-M-E-R, or Instagram the same way. Then you go to Facebook,
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you have Facebook.com slash Caleb Hemmer T-N, and then Caleb Hemmer.com slash contact will take
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you to his website, and that's the contact information for his office. So again, if you
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have any concerns about the behavior of this public official, or if you really want to know,
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like does he think that 16-year-olds can consent to having body parts removed, he still hasn't
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answered that question. But I bet he'd love an opportunity to answer it. And I think he would
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want to hear from you. He'd be very glad to hear from you. So you can always do that if you want.
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Now, there's more though. The next question came from Democrat John Ray Clemens, who also had
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no interest in talking about the substance of the issue. Instead, with the slander already covered
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by Caleb Hemmer, Clemens went to the Democrats' second favorite tool in the box, which is credentialism.
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Can you give us a summary of your educational background or your healthcare education experience?
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Your educational background. I'm just curious. You've testified as to a lot of your own research.
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I'm curious for what purpose you do that and what background you have to qualify you to speak to that.
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Well, my background that qualifies me to speak to this is that I'm a human being with a brain
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and common sense, and I have a soul. And so therefore, I think it's a really bad idea to chemically
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castrate children. That is my experience. Also, I did, now it's true, I didn't,
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I didn't go to college, but I did go to school long enough to learn how to read so I can read
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the data for myself, and that's exactly what I've done.
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And for what purpose do you conduct your research and use this brain of yours?
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I use it for the purpose of trying to protect children from being castrated and mutilated.
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Thank you, Mr. Chairman. You don't use it to get clicks on your publication?
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Well, are you using it right now to try to get clicks with this interaction?
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I really like the idea of drawing attention to the fact that this is happening to children.
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I know you seem to find it very amusing. I don't.
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Yes, what qualifies me to speak up against chopping body parts off of kids? Which credentials give
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me the right to form an opinion about the sterilization of middle schoolers? I wonder
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what John Ray Clemens might have said if I told him that I'm also against drowning bags of puppies
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in the river. I'm not even a big dog guy, but I don't think that you should put puppies in a bag
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and drown them in the river. If I were to tell him that, would he have demanded to know what
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veterinarian school I attended? This apparently comes as a shock to Mr. Clemens, but using your
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brain and your conscience, it's not the kind of job that requires a resume or professional references.
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That's something you're supposed to be doing all the time, especially when it comes to this
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particular issue. But this is all they have. They cannot challenge me on the merits. They cannot
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debate me on the substance of the issue. They cannot explain why I'm wrong. So instead,
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they will make the case that whether I'm wrong or right, I shouldn't be saying anything at all.
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Now, that's the entire argument. That is the only argument I have heard from these people
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since I started talking about this issue years ago. The only argument they have,
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it really only boils down to, you shouldn't be talking about this.
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Yet they can't even make that case convincingly. So instead, they're left with the bumbling,
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ridiculous mess you just witnessed. Now, there were more questions or questions, I should say,
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after the exchange we just saw there, another Democrat representative started reading my tweets
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where I advocate for capital punishment for drug traffickers. Now, what in the world could that
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possibly have to do with the bill in question? Well, he couldn't explain that. And I didn't have
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a chance to point out how irrelevant it was because they wouldn't let me respond either.
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So after that happened, they basically got tired of me answering. And so for most of the rest of the
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time, it was just them talking to me. And then if I try to speak, they bang the gavel. No,
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this is not, this is not, it's not time for responding. Democracy in action, folks. Isn't it
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inspiring? But this is all predictable, of course. I don't want you to think that I was surprised or
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caught off guard. That was their intention. But unfortunately, they were using the same tactics
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on me that a million hacks and charlatans before them have already used.
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What I'll say to the Democrats on the committee is this, if you want to rattle me with smears and
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irrelevant out-of-context quotes and bad faith questions and accusations, etc., you're going
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to have to try a lot harder than that. A lot harder. Or instead, instead of trying to get better
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at being gutless smear merchants and disgraceful hacks, you could instead work on becoming better
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people, better men. You could stop trying to defend the indefensible, what you yourself know to be
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indefensible. You could stop trading in your soul for the sake of promoting and defending the most
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depraved ideological agenda mankind has ever known. And instead, you could try to be men of dignity and
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integrity and moral courage. That's the other option. It's an option that'll work out a lot better
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for you in a lot of ways, including come Judgment Day, I would add. And in the meantime, another
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bonus, maybe you won't make such asses of yourself in any more committee hearings. Just a thought.
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to learn more. There was another committee hearing yesterday, so it's a big day for committees. This one
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was in D.C. where three former Twitter executives have been called in to answer questions about Twitter's
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decision to censor the Hunter Biden laptop story, of course, rigging there by the 2020 election by
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suppressing relevant information that might have swayed the voters. And that was all, that was the
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point of it, of course. We'll start with this clip where AOC takes the opportunity to, instead of
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discussing the issue at hand, so there's a common theme, a theme is emerging. Instead of talking about
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that, she instead decides to defame libs of TikTok. Let's watch.
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Additionally, Ms. Navarroli, are you familiar with the account libs of TikTok?
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Are you aware that from August 11th to August 16th, that account posted false information about Boston
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Children's Hospital, claiming that they were providing hysterectomies to children?
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Yes, I am aware of that and other claims from the account.
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And are you aware that this lie was then circulated by other prominent far-right influencers?
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And are you aware that all these claims, which I have reiterated were false, culminated in a real-life
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harassment and ultimately a bomb threat to the Boston Children's Hospital?
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And this account is still on that platform today, isn't it?
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Despite inspiring a bomb threat due to the right-wing incitement of violence against trans-Americans
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in this country, because they cannot let go of this obsession with fixating violence and
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inciting violence against trans- and LGBT people, in addition to immigrants, in addition to women
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of color, this is a party that cannot pick on anyone their own size.
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We're punching down when, you know, there's LGBT.
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Like, every single major corporation is tripping over itself on Pride Month, covering itself
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And so, you know, LGBT, the most privileged, celebrated group in America and in American
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And yet, if you say anything critical of any, not even critical of them, if you say, if you
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remotely say anything critical of some of the things that some of them do, you're punching
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Maybe eventually, you know, we keep hearing about us inciting violence, people on the right
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Because, I hear about this so much, maybe one of these days, one of these people will
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get around to providing even, like, one example of us inciting violence.
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I'd be really interested to know, when was that exactly?
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Where's the part where any of us have said, have called on others to commit acts of violence?
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It's like, go out into the street and find trans people and beat them up.
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But when have any of us said anything even, like, vaguely similar to that?
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I do have to admit, though, I was pretty jealous when I saw this.
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Like, I'm, look, not to make it about myself, but I'm the transphobe of the year.
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So, AOC at the committee hearing, she wants to go after transphobic accounts.
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But I don't, she defames Libs of TikTok, and I don't even get an honorable mention.
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Me and Libs of TikTok, Shia, are in kind of a feud, a battle to see who can be defamed by the media the most.
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I thought that I'd surged pretty far ahead with my transphobe of the year award.
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I thought that, not that I got comfortable or complacent.
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I just thought that I got a comfortable, I do have a comfortable lead here.
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I can coast a little bit, maybe pace myself a little bit more.
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But then she gets the name drop in a congressional committee hearing, and suddenly I'm in danger of getting left in the dust.
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So, but this shows you how heated the competition is, because this was earlier yesterday.
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And then later that same day, I get ambushed and defamed at a committee hearing in Tennessee.
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It's, it's, it's, it's a, it's a, it's a real competition though.
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Um, and ultimately it's who's going to be, this is really what the competition is.
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Um, who's going to be transphobe of the year of 2023.
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And, uh, I understand that that's, I, that I'm going to need to need to vigorously defend my title.
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And I plan to, but I see things like this and it makes me, makes me a little nervous.
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Now, more to the point, of course, what AOC accused Libs of TikTok of was, uh, totally false, both on, on, uh, inciting violence.
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But then, but then, but then also the part about, uh, you know, misinformation about Boston Children's Hospital.
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Now, just to remind us all so we can all remember.
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Libs of TikTok, this was not, uh, she didn't post something and say, hey, you know, I heard,
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I heard that they do, uh, gender-affirming hysterectomies.
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Now, what she did, she found a video, a Boston Children's Hospital video,
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where they talk about providing this procedure.
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And let's go back and watch that video again, just so we can all refresh our memories.
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Gender-affirming hysterectomy is very similar to most hysterectomies that occur.
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A hysterectomy itself is the removal of the uterus, the cervix, which is the opening of the uterus.
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And the fallopian tubes, which are attached to the sides of the uterus.
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Some gender-affirming hysterectomies will also include the removal of the ovaries.
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But that's technically a separate procedure called a bilateral oophrectomy.
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And not every gender-affirming hysterectomy includes that.
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And people who are getting gender-affirming hysterectomies do not have to have their ovaries removed.
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Okay, can we go back to just the very beginning of this video again?
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Interferming hysterectomy is very similar to most hysterectomies.
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Now, again, we already established in the last, in the opening, that I don't have any medical credentials.
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But, so correct me if I'm wrong, this reading thing can be a challenge sometimes for us, those of us who didn't go to college.
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But I'm pretty sure it says Boston Children's Hospital.
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And there's a doctor who works there talking about gender-affirming hysterectomies.
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Where do we get the idea that Boston Children's Hospital does gender-affirming hysterectomies?
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Well, we got it from them in this video where they talk about it.
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So when AOC and all the rest of them, when they say that this is misinformation, again, as always, misinformation means, when they say it, it means inconvenient information.
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It means information that I wish you didn't know.
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All right, moving on a little bit on that same committee hearing, well, not moving past the committee hearing, because Marjorie Taylor Greene had a few things to say as well, coming from the opposite perspective.
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Let's talk about something a little bit further.
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It's amazing to me, Mr. Roth, as the head and trust of safety at Twitter, your ability, or should I say inability, to remove child porn.
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Now, here's something that disgusts me about you.
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In your doctoral dissertation entitled Gay Data, you argued that minors should have access to Grindr, an adult male gay hookup app.
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You know, Elon Musk took over Twitter, and he banned 44,000 accounts that were promoting child porn.
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You permanently banned my Twitter account, but you allowed child porn all over Twitter.
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Twitter had become a platform, you said, connecting queer young adults.
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Yes, you also wrote on Twitter in 2010, can high school students ever meaningfully consent?
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Everything she's saying there is correct, of course.
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But the one thing I'll take issue with from Marjorie Taylor Greene is she says that it's, I think she said it's astounding to her, surprising, astounding,
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that there was all this child porn, and they didn't take the child porn off the platform, but they were going after her,
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and they were going after Hunter Biden's laptop story and taking conservative content down.
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Because they don't, look, why weren't they aggressive in removing child porn before Elon Musk took over?
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Because they don't see child porn as a problem.
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I know sometimes that can be hard to wrap your head around because if you are a decent person and you do have a soul and a brain,
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at least a functioning one, then it's impossible to conceive of how anyone could be anything less than totally horrified and infuriated by the abuse of children.
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But we're dealing with people who do not, whose souls and brains do not function, at least don't function like a human being should.
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You know, these are people that have, which isn't to let them off the hook either.
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It's not like their brain's malfunctioning, you know, through no fault of their own.
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It's just that they're so beholden to their ideology, they've sacrificed their souls,
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and they don't have, they just don't see it as a problem.
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And they also do believe, you know, they do believe that children can make choices,
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can consent to all kinds of things from a very young age.
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And they won't say it out loud, but that's what they think.
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And there are all kinds of implications to that horrific viewpoint.
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Our Canadian conservative activist and YouTuber Lauren Southern announced Tuesday that her parents
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had been banned from vacation rental property company Airbnb for being closely associated with their daughter.
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Well, we've removed you from the Airbnb platform because your account is closely associated with a person who isn't allowed to use Airbnb.
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This means you'll no longer be able to book reservations on Airbnb.
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Southern was banned from Airbnb years ago over her right-wing political views and was denied reinstatement, which she tried to appeal.
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My parents just got banned from Airbnb for being related to me.
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As of Wednesday morning, Southern's post about the ban had received more than 6.8 million views.
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Airbnb told The Daily Wire, The Daily Wire reached out, that the banning of Southern's parents was a mistake.
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So they were banned, and then Lauren Southern called attention to it, and now they're saying it was a mistake.
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We have reinstated their accounts and apologized to them for this mistake.
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The Daily Wire reached out to Southern about the response, and she said she believes Airbnb is lying about the ban being a mistake
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and only backtracked because of the public blowback.
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It's like someone tripped and fell and accidentally banned Lauren Southern's parents.
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Someone hit a button by accident, like some sort of typo.
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As she said, it wasn't like she was trying to evade the ban by having her parents book reservations for it.
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They banned her, which was completely insane when they did it, but they banned her years ago.
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And the other thing, too, is that Lauren Southern mentioned that her parents never appealed it.
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Okay, so it's not like they appealed it and made their case.
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So when Airbnb went back on this decision, they weren't responding to an appeal.
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That's what they were responding to, which is good.
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It's good that the public was able to pressure them and that we were able to exert that kind of power.
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But it's also very disturbing because what it means is that this was kind of they're testing the waters.
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They were seeing if they could get away with it.
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And if they could have, if Southern even just wasn't on Twitter so she couldn't post about it, let's say she had been banned by Twitter also, and so wasn't able to call anyone's attention to this, then, yeah, this would have stayed in place no matter what.
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We already have these big corporate brands and companies and platforms that are banning people for wrong think.
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And now they want to expand that to even banning your family members.
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They want to, they want to erase all of you as far as, you know, being consumers of their products and their services goes.
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And I'm afraid that one of the lessons that they might learn from this is not going to learn, they're not going to learn the right lesson.
00:34:11.060
It's not like they're going to have a come to Jesus moment and say, you know, this, that was really too far.
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Like, it's, it's bad enough that we're punishing Lauren Southern for having political views.
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It's like, that's not the conclusion they're going to draw.
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I think one conclusion they might draw is that, okay, this needs to be more, like, if we want to erase these people, then it has to be a more, you know, it, it, it, the effort has to be more coordinated.
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So the real mistake, as far as Airbnb is concerned, is that, yeah, they banned Southern and then banned her parents, but she still had access to all these other platforms.
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So then the elites and the powers that be, what they're going to then decide is that, well, we need to make sure that when we do this, we erase you from everything so that you have no means to speak out against us.
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And they are, that's already the conclusion that they've drawn.
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We've seen them do that to several people, but they can't do it on Twitter now because they don't, they don't control Twitter at the moment.
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I've had this sitting on, on deck for a few days.
00:35:26.160
A New York middle school is apologizing after serving students with a meal on the first day of Black History Month that was deemed to be culturally insensitive.
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Administrators at Nyack Middle School say that the hot lunch menu was changed by the vendor without their knowledge on February 1st, the first day of Black History Month, to include chicken and waffles with a watermelon dessert, with which the school's principal called an unfortunate situation.
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We're extremely disappointed by this regrettable situation.
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Apologize to the entire Nyack community for the cultural insensitivity displayed by our food service providers.
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I am disappointed that Aramac would serve items that differed from the published monthly menu, especially items that reinforce negative stereotypes concerning the African-American community.
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And then also there's going to be, I think, cultural sensitivity and all of the sorts of things and apologies and all the rest of it.
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Why exactly is it a negative stereotype that a lot of Black people like chicken and waffles?
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Like, it is true that you tend to find chicken and waffle restaurants and those sorts of dishes in Black communities more than in, you know, white communities.
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And, and then I had it the first time a year ago.
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I'm like, this is, and it always sounded a little bit weird to me.
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I think it's accurate to say that it tends to be more popular and prevalent in the Black community.
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I'm not sure if historically it was like, it was first designed or, you know, if the first person to come up with the chicken and waffles dish was a Black person.
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We decided that every stereotype is automatically negative simply because it's a stereotype.
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A stereotype is a, it's a, it's a, it's a generality made about groups.
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It's like, it's speaking in a kind of general term about a group.
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There are things you could say about groups that are not accurate, that are not true, that could be degrading or offensive.
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Just because you're making a general statement and saying, you know, people in this group generally like this or do this or whatever.
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They're, where they're, they're telling us that, that we're not allowed to notice things.
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There are certain things we're allowed to notice and other things we're not allowed to notice.
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And the fact that the, the unacceptable things, the things that we're not allowed to notice, the fact that this is so arbitrarily determined, that's part of the game here.
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It's part of the, as I always talk about, this kind of societal game of Simon Says.
00:38:53.480
So you are allowed to speak in general terms about black people.
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You're allowed, you're allowed to talk about things like black history.
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So there are, there are, and if you're to say, well, we're celebrating black history, we're celebrating black culture.
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We're going to celebrate black culture for Black History Month.
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That's a, so you're speaking in general terms now.
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What are you allowed to say as part of that scene?
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That's when the rules become extremely arbitrary.
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And there's just no way, as a reasonable, rational person, there's no way to know,
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well, I'm allowed to notice that, that this food tends to be a part of that, but not this food.
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If you're a man, it's required that you grow a beard, hey, we're the sweet baby gang.
00:39:58.560
Funk Soul Bubby says, Matt was probably the kid who brought the American defense figurines to a G.I. Joe sleepover.
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Yeah, look, and if the sleepover was at my house, we were having fruity O's for breakfast, not, not Fruit Loops.
00:40:13.480
We were, we were definitely, you know, we were having the, the frosted mini squares rather than the frosted mini wheats.
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That was my, my mom was the queen of off-brand stuff.
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It's like, there's a, there's an off-brand version of everything.
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And when you've got, you know, I had five brothers and sisters, so that just comes to the territory.
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Like my, my wife, for some reason, still buy, she buys my kids the name brand cereal.
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And so we're, we're paying a, like a 3X premium.
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And, uh, so this is, this is a discussion we have, but I'll, probably not relevant to the rest of you.
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Uh, Kenny says, is it such a horrible thing for someone to take their own life?
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If there is nothing else we have control over, it should be whether we live and suffer or, uh, bring about an end that was coming anyway.
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And that's a thought I've never had to entertain and I hope I never do.
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But if I do, it's definitely a personal decision.
00:41:11.160
Well, here's the thing, Kenny, it is horrible to take your own life.
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And, and even the people that, most of the people that say that they don't necessarily agree, well, if, if you were walking across a bridge and you saw a guy about to throw himself off of it to kill himself, you would try to stop him, wouldn't you?
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You wouldn't stand there and say, well, it's his own decision.
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No, you would try to stop him because, and in fact, if you saw someone else just standing there watching while it happened, you would think that person's a terrible scumbag.
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But more to the point when it comes to euthanasia, doctors shouldn't kill people.
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So, you can try to argue that a person has the right to take their own life or it's okay for a person to take their own life.
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Let me say someone has a legal right to take their own life.
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Well, that's the kind of thing that, like, obviously, I can't, I can't really, if someone kills themselves, obviously, there's no way to legally enforce the law against it after the fact.
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But I don't think we have the moral right to end our own lives.
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Because we're not talking about what people have the right to do to themselves here when it comes to euthanasia.
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We're talking about what do doctors have the right to do to people.
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And what I'm saying is that no doctor has the right to directly and intentionally kill another person.
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Whether that person is an infant in the womb or that person is, you know, is terminally ill or that person is depressed.
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That should not be a tool in the medical toolbox.
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And so it should not be within the purview of a doctor.
00:43:20.440
But Nick says, why you got to come after Trump all the time?
00:43:28.700
Of course, I always get, anytime that I criticize Trump, I'm always told that I always criticize Trump.
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When it has always been the case that I, in general, I talk about Trump.
00:43:37.720
And I talk about politicians, probably less than almost any conservative in media.
00:43:42.740
You know, I don't focus on these issues that much.
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So criticize him all the time, I think, automatically is quite inaccurate.
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My policy has always been that I criticize Trump when he does things that I think are wrong.
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And then if he doesn't, then I don't criticize him.
00:44:00.120
If he does something that I think is right, then I'll defend him.
00:44:02.420
In fact, just yesterday on the show, when Biden was taking credit for putting a cap on the price of insulin, I said, no, Trump did that.
00:44:14.460
But Trump also tried to defame DeSantis as a groomer because he took a picture with some women.
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And I think that's wrong, so I criticize him for that.
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I think that's a rational, reasonable approach.
00:44:33.260
And just so you understand something, too, because it's still, it kind of boggles my mind that people don't get this, is that criticizing, when it comes to Trump, like when it comes to Trump, there are the sort of grifting, profitable, reading from the script, sacrificing your credibility approach to Trump is always going to be on the extremes.
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So someone who always loves Trump and supports everything he does, no matter what, an always Trump person, that's a grift.
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And the other side, the people who hate Trump so much that then they went and supported Hillary Clinton, and now they support the Democrats, and Bill Kristol, like, hates Trump so much that he just decided to go and become a leftist to spite him.
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And then, because there's like a built-in audience for both of those.
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It's a simple, it's a simplistic sort of position.
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Anything in between, we take the in-between approach where you're like, well, when he does things I agree with, I criticize him.
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When he does things I agree with, I support him.
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There's no grift there, because that's, you're automatically going to be upsetting people on both sides.
00:45:53.460
And so anytime you do that, it's hard to call that a grift or to say that, well, you're reading from a script.
00:45:58.920
It's like, with Trump, the easiest, especially as a conservative, the easiest thing has always been either just become a full-on leftist, and then maybe you get the CNN hits, and maybe you get something on MSNBC, so you could do that.
00:46:11.260
Or to say, well, he's God incarnate, and everything he does is right.
00:46:19.660
But just trying to be reasonable about it, that's never been, like, really the most profitable position on the guy, or on any politician.
00:46:26.620
But that's the correct position on any politician.
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So I'm not sitting here and saying that we should be in the middle, like, being in the middle is the right thing all the time.
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When it comes to issues, to principles, the middle is not the right place to be.
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But when it comes to a person, a politician, I think the right thing is to support them when they have earned it and not when they don't.
00:46:49.140
A couple weeks ago, we told you about how YouTube removed an episode of our show because my comments about men who want to have uteruses implanted in their bodies were deemed to be offensive and hateful somehow.
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Now, these restrictive speech policies exist because the world is on a mission to make you woke.
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But our good friend Dennis Prager is on a mission to make you wise.
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And thankfully, Dennis has created a brand new series with Daily Wire Plus called The Master's Program to do just that.
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We've had a longstanding relationship with Dennis Prager for good reason.
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He's been leading the charge against stupidity for longer than I've been alive with content like PragerU's five-minute videos.
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Well, The Master's Program takes 40 years' worth of wisdom and experience from one of the most influential conservative thinkers in America today.
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And distills it all down in a way that is relevant and accessible.
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Episodes explore topics like, is human nature basically good?
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I think we can say for certain that I'm obviously good, but I can't speak for anyone else.
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The series also covers the consequences of secularism, which, by the way, are so dire it needed two episodes to explore.
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A brand new episode of PragerU Master's Program is available to stream right now, but only on Daily Wire Plus.
00:47:49.200
So head to dailywireplus.com to become a member and watch PragerU Master's Program and more.
00:47:59.960
It is perhaps cosmic justice that Sam Smith and Kim Petras perform their satanic ritual at the Grammys.
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And though they did succeed in getting some of the attention they crave, still most of the conversation surrounding their performance has been focused not on the performance, but on Madonna's face.
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The aging former pop star introduced the two men on Sunday night.
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And ever since then, people have been remarking on the fact that Madonna looked like she was having a potentially fatal reaction to shellfish.
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She looked like Marilyn Manson reimagined as a Muppet.
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She looked like she paid $15 to a caricature artist to draw a picture of her and then brought the drawing to her plastic surgeon and said,
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And I'm just trying to be precise in my description.
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But it's not my fault that Madonna now looks like a large, flightless bird that went extinct in the Pleistocene era.
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You can't blame me for the fact that Madonna looks like a sock puppet.
00:48:57.540
Now, Madonna herself seems to have noticed the comments and the comparisons and the fact that people are saying that she looks like a ventriloquist dummy from a Jeff Dunham act.
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She said, the world is threatened by my power and my stamina, my intelligence and my will to survive.
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Speaking for myself, I am blown away by her will to survive.
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I mean, she has a net worth of only $850 million after all.
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I don't know how she manages to endure to keep going, to survive against the odds.
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She wills her way through it with sheer guts and determination and copious amounts of Botox.
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So while everyone else has been making fun of Madonna, the New York Times has swooped in to explain why we should actually admire her for destroying her face with plastic surgery.
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In an essay titled, Madonna's New Face is a Brilliant Provocation, the author Jennifer Wiener writes,
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With blonde braids looped over her ears, dressed in a long black skirt and black jacket, accessorized with a riding crop, one of the best female recording artists of all time stepped into the spotlight of the 65th annual Grammy Awards Sunday night.
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Madonna was there to introduce Sam Smith and Kim Petras, a non-binary performer and a trans woman.
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She began by referring to her four decades in the music industry and praised the rebels, forging a new path and taking the heat for all of it.
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Social media's loudest roars weren't about her speech or her longtime LGBTQ advocacy or her upcoming world tour.
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They were about Madonna's preternaturally smooth and extravagantly sculpted face.
00:50:36.300
All of Madonna's features looked exaggerated, pushed, and polished to an extreme.
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There was her forehead, smooth and gleaming as a porcelain bowl.
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Her eyebrows bleached and plucked to near invisibility.
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People posted with a picture side by side with that of Jigsaw from Saws and Janice from The Muppet Show
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and made jokes about desperately seeking surgeon, while extremely online plastic surgeons hastened to guess about exactly what procedures she had undergone.
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And now comes the part where the leftist writer does what leftist writers love to do more than anything,
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which is to try to make simple vanity seem interesting.
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Beyond the question of what she'd done, however, lay the more interesting question of why she had done it.
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Did Madonna get sucked so deep into the vortex of beauty culture that she came out the other side?
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Had the pressure to appear younger somehow made her think that she ought to look like some kind of excessively contoured baby?
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Perhaps so, but I'd like to think that our era's greatest chameleon, a woman who has always been intentional about her reinvention,
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was doing something slyer, more subversive, by serving us both a new, if not necessarily improved,
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face and a side of critique about the work of beauty, the inevitability of aging,
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and the impossible bind in which older female celebrities find themselves.
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People complain that she no longer looks like Madonna, but which Madonna comes to mind?
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She's been a blonde and a brunette, butch and high femme.
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She's shown us her roots and her underwear, deliberately putting the hidden parts on display.
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Every new version of Madonna was both a look and a commentary on looking,
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a statement about the artifice of beauty and about her own right to set the terms by which she was seen.
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Is it possible that Madonna has been so blinkered by her fame and wealth that she's lost the ability to see herself objectively?
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Yes, but whatever her intentions, the superstar has gotten us all talking about how good looks are subjective
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In the end, whether she meant to make a statement or just to look younger, better, refreshed, almost doesn't matter.
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If beauty is a construct, Madonna's the one who puts its scaffolding on display.
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As for beauty being a construct and subjective,
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Madonna's face is actually a perfect example demonstrating why that is not the case.
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Despite the extremely common misperception, beauty is not merely in the eye of the beholder.
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See, everyone agrees that Madonna's artificial face is not beautiful.
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Everyone agrees that all the injections and surgeries and plastics have not improved anything.
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Women, you know, everyone knows that a woman who ages naturally and gracefully is more beautiful
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than one who obsessively goes under the knife in a desperate and futile attempt to reverse the clock.
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Do we all happen to have the same artificially constructive, subjective opinion about beauty?
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In fact, we recognize, even if we don't realize we recognize,
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Something is beautiful if it reflects its own essence and if that essence is good.
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That's why a beautiful tree is one that has grown tall and mighty,
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not one that is rotting and diseased and, you know, covered with graffiti.
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Thomas Aquinas said that beauty consists in due proportion.
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And, you know, I think this is basically what he's getting at.
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We all see that it isn't beautiful because it's a rejection of what is natural and true.
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It is a reflection not of her humanness and her humanity and her womanhood,
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but of her vanity and her self-obsessions and her insecurity.
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There's nothing beautiful about that, and so there's nothing beautiful about her face.
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it probably stands alone as the one viewpoint that nearly everyone professes,
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So you think that you think that beauty is subjective,
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And I know that you don't believe it because here's how I know it.
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And, you know, I don't know anything about you, whoever you are listening to this.
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But what I do know is that you would be appalled
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if somebody were to look out upon a snow-capped mountain range
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or who heard a very talented choir singing Amazing Grace.
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Now, you would be appalled by someone who reacted that way.
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Now, people may resonate differently with these sights and sounds.
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but no sane person is actively repulsed by any of those things.
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And we're told that each culture reinvents beauty for itself.
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And yet what we actually find is that all through history and across time,
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in fact, every culture arrives at strikingly similar conclusions
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Now, there may be cultures that have difficulty creating beautiful things,
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and cultures who intentionally create ugly things instead of beautiful,
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splattered with urine stains over the Sistine Chapel.
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Nobody would because one is grotesque and filthy.
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Women like Madonna, who refuse to age gracefully,
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except perhaps the ageism they direct against themselves.
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Really, they're a reflection of a culture that fears mortality.
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We worship youth because we are afraid of death.
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This is like, if you want to call it, it's deathism, I guess.
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That's why we worship youth, because we're afraid of death.
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that worshiping youth and being afraid of death are inevitable in every society.
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Because traditionally, especially in more ancient times,
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the elders in the community have been revered and respected.
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But rather, there was honor and dignity that came with being of advanced age.
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Yet these were also societies that accepted the reality of death.
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They may have had different ways of understanding death,
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different ideas about what happened after you died.
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Not nearly to the extent that we do today, anyway.
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These days, it's considered rude to even ask somebody their age.
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Somehow, the fact that you've been walking the earth for more than 20 years
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Why should a 65-year-old woman be embarrassed that she's 65?
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Well, for no other reason than the fact that 65-year-old women are likely closer to death
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And death is the one thing we don't want to be reminded of.
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And so that's why we reject the aging process entirely.
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Indeed, much of modern society is, I'm convinced,
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fundamentally set up to distract us from thinking about our own deaths.
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But death is inevitable, whether we think about it or not.
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And Madonna is 64 years old, whether she embraces that reality or not.
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There is no shame in being whatever age you are.
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And that's why, ultimately, Madonna is today canceled.
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And that'll do it for this portion of the show as we move over to the members block.