The Matt Walsh Show - February 10, 2023


Ep. 1111 - A Whistleblower Reveals What's Really Going On Inside Gender Transition Clinics


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1 hour and 2 minutes

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00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, a whistleblower from inside the child gender transition industry
00:00:04.240 has finally come forward, and what she reveals is horrifying. I'll walk you through the whole
00:00:08.100 story today. Also, a congressional Democrat learns that the old yelling fire in a crowded
00:00:12.400 theater trope is not actually a valid argument against free speech. I have one more clip that
00:00:17.780 you haven't seen yet from that now infamous committee hearing in Tennessee that I'll play
00:00:20.920 for you. Plus, reports suggest that Project Veritas is trying to push James O'Keefe out,
00:00:25.200 even though James O'Keefe is Project Veritas. In our daily cancellation, Vice holds a panel
00:00:29.860 discussion on race. One guy with common sense somehow made it onto the panel and proceeds
00:00:34.340 to offend and terrify the rest of them. It's pretty hilarious. We'll talk about all that
00:00:38.060 and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.
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00:01:54.040 In the fight against gender ideology and the abuse and mutilation of children,
00:01:57.960 we have been operating at a disadvantage. Well, at many disadvantages. You know,
00:02:02.340 the institutions are against us, the elites and corporate interests, and nearly everyone with
00:02:06.400 power is against us. Most of the platforms that we use to spread our message are hostile to the
00:02:11.720 message and to us. And the activists on the other side are empowered to act with impunity,
00:02:16.460 defaming us, threatening us without any consequence. They're also evil to their core
00:02:21.500 and beholden to lies, which means that they not only are allowed to do and say whatever they want,
00:02:26.340 but also are willing to do or say anything. All of these are disadvantages for Team Sanity. But
00:02:33.700 in spite of these obstacles, our team, Team Sanity, has made enormous headway recently. Every battle is
00:02:41.500 stacked against us. And yet we have had some tremendous victories, both against the ideology
00:02:46.820 and against the mutilation industry specifically. Yet all of these hurdles create another and
00:02:54.420 especially significant one, is that we haven't been able to get access to anyone on the inside
00:02:59.780 of that industry, the mutilation industry. We've heard from former patients who've been mutilated and
00:03:05.720 butchered and are now speaking out, drugged and abused and are talking about it. We've heard from
00:03:11.440 doctors who've been around this industry who have seen how it operates and are appropriately horrified
00:03:17.600 by it. Many people in the orbit of this industry or who have fallen victim to it have taken a stand
00:03:24.240 against it. But up until this point, the threats veiled in otherwise and the fear of social alienation
00:03:32.160 has been enough to prevent any actual whistleblowers from inside the child mutilation industry from
00:03:38.140 coming forward, at least publicly. You know, I personally have heard from medical professionals
00:03:42.080 on the inside who are sickened by what they've seen, by what they themselves have done, and by what
00:03:50.360 they themselves continue to do. But none of them have been willing to speak publicly and put their name
00:03:55.920 on it. The potential, the certainty really, of their lives as they know them being torn apart is simply
00:04:01.540 too much for them to bear. They don't have the courage to do the right thing and bear the cost
00:04:06.800 of that decision. And so the child mutilation industry, the gender industry as a whole, has been
00:04:12.440 able to remain, at least from a public-facing perspective, insular and closed off. It has not
00:04:19.000 had any whistleblowers. Until now. Yesterday, a website called The Free Press published an article by a
00:04:25.420 woman named Jamie Reed. And what you should know about Reed is that she spent four years as a case
00:04:30.300 manager at the Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital. She also
00:04:36.400 identifies herself as, quote, queer and says that she is married to a, quote, trans man. Point being,
00:04:43.880 this is certainly not a conservative with any sort of political axe to grind. And she's been on the
00:04:50.120 inside of this gender ideology world in just about every way possible, professionally and personally.
00:04:56.580 And now she's had enough. She explains in the article, quote, I left the clinic in November of
00:05:02.560 last year because I could no longer participate in what was happening there. By the time I departed,
00:05:06.980 I was certain that the way the American medical system is treating these patients is the opposite of
00:05:11.260 the promise we make to do no harm. Instead, we are permanently harming the vulnerable patients in our
00:05:16.680 care. Today, I'm speaking out. I'm doing so knowing how toxic the public conversation is around this
00:05:21.760 highly contentious issue and the ways that my testimony might be misused. I'm doing so knowing
00:05:26.780 that I'm putting myself at serious personal and professional risk. Almost everyone in my life has
00:05:31.100 advised me to keep my head down, but I cannot in good conscience do so because what is happening to
00:05:36.720 scores of children is far more important than my comfort. And what is happening to them is morally and
00:05:41.860 medically appalling. Now, from here, read documents in great detail what exactly went on in this clinic.
00:05:50.180 What she reveals can leave no doubt that not only are these clinics harming children irrevocably
00:05:56.560 and brutally, but that they know they are harming children and they do it anyway. I'm going to read some
00:06:03.520 of the passages to you. I'll be doing a lot more reading than I would normally do in an opening monologue,
00:06:07.300 but it's more important that you hear from Jamie Reed than from me today. So we'll go through this
00:06:13.640 and kind of get as much of the whole story as we can. So she continues.
00:06:20.580 Soon after my arrival at the Transgender Center, I was struck by the lack of formal protocols
00:06:25.160 for treatment. The center's physician co-directors were essentially the sole authority.
00:06:30.760 At first, the patient population was tipped toward what used to be the traditional instance of a child
00:06:35.600 with gender dysphoria, a boy, often quite young, who wanted to be, wanted to present as, who wanted
00:06:41.940 to be a girl. Until 2015 or so, a very small number of these boys comprised the population of pediatric
00:06:48.300 gender dysphoria cases. Then, across the Western world, there began to be a dramatic increase in a
00:06:53.840 new population. Teenage girls, many with no previous history of gender distress, suddenly declared they
00:06:58.940 were transgender and demanded immediate treatment with testosterone. I certainly saw this at the center.
00:07:03.960 One of my jobs was to do intake for new patients and their families. When I started, there were
00:07:09.640 probably 10 such calls a month. When I left, there were 50. And about 70% of the new patients were
00:07:15.800 girls. Sometimes clusters of girls arrived from the same high school. Now, next she explains how most of
00:07:22.480 their female patients had comorbidities. Most of them were psychological comorbidities. So they'd been
00:07:27.000 diagnosed with anxiety or depression or ADHD. Many of them were diagnosed with autism. And there have
00:07:34.800 also been studies that are showing that this is very, very common, this correlation between kids
00:07:40.620 who are diagnosed autistic. And the next thing you know, they're saying they have gender dysphoria.
00:07:46.280 But lots of them declared, lots of them apparently declared that they had other disorders that were
00:07:51.780 entirely in their heads. So she said that they would, that these girls, they would frequently claim to have
00:07:57.320 things like Tourette's syndrome or multiple personality disorder. But it was all imaginary. They didn't have
00:08:03.560 that. Reed says that the doctors at the clinic recognized that many of these disorders the girls had
00:08:09.380 invented. And they were actually symptoms of social contagions. They'd been convinced by their friends and by the
00:08:16.400 internet that they had Tourette's. So they had multiple personalities. But they didn't. And yet these
00:08:21.840 same doctors, she says, were not willing to admit or even consider that gender dysphoria is also one of
00:08:29.460 these social contagions. Just like all the other social contagion disorders that these girls had fallen
00:08:34.360 prey to. Reed continues, to begin transitioning, the girls needed a letter of support from a therapist,
00:08:40.120 usually one we recommended, but they had to see only once or twice for the green light. To make it more
00:08:45.240 efficient for the therapist, we offered them a template for how to write a letter of support for
00:08:50.700 transition. The next stop was a single visit to the endocrinologist for a testosterone prescription.
00:08:56.220 And that's all it took. When a female takes testosterone, the profound and permanent effects
00:09:00.680 of the hormone can be seen in a matter of months. Voices drop, beards sprout, body fat is redistributed,
00:09:07.180 sexual interest explodes, aggression increases, and mood can be unpredictable. Our patients were told about
00:09:13.080 some side effects, including sterility. But after working at the center, I came to believe that
00:09:16.900 teenagers are simply not capable of fully grasping what it means to make the decision to become infertile
00:09:22.260 while still minors. Well, of course they can't grasp that. As I've said many times, you know,
00:09:29.540 it's obviously minors, obviously kids can't grasp the consequence of, you know, choosing to be infertile
00:09:40.380 or choosing to be sterile. They're giving up the possibility of having kids at a time when
00:09:45.700 they can't, they couldn't know what that means.
00:09:50.960 And there are many people even in their early twenties, I was one of these people,
00:09:54.840 my early, even in my early twenties, I couldn't really imagine what it would be like to have kids.
00:10:03.480 You know, it wasn't something that I thought about. A few years later, I had kids.
00:10:09.980 So as for what all this means, Reed explains, quote,
00:10:14.180 many encounters with patients emphasized to me how little these young people understood
00:10:17.920 the profound impacts changing gender would have on their bodies and minds. But the center downplayed
00:10:22.660 the negative consequences and emphasized the need for transition. As the center's website said,
00:10:27.120 quote, left untreated, gender dysphoria has any number of consequences from self-harm to suicide.
00:10:31.720 But when you take away the gender dysphoria by allowing a child to be who he or she is,
00:10:35.660 we're noticing that goes away. The studies we have, we have show these kids often wind up
00:10:39.740 functioning psychosocially as well as, or better than their peers. But there are no reliable studies
00:10:45.800 showing this, Reed writes. Indeed, the experiences of many of the center's patients prove how false
00:10:50.520 these assertions are. Here's an example. On Friday, May 1st, 2020, a colleague emailed me about a 15 year
00:10:57.580 old male patient. The email said, quote, oh dear, I'm concerned that the patient does not understand
00:11:03.580 what bichlutamide, I think, does. It's the medicine. I responded, I don't think we start
00:11:10.460 anything honestly right now. Bichlutamide is a medication used to treat metastatic prostate
00:11:16.680 cancer. And one of its side effects is that it feminizes the bodies of men who take it,
00:11:21.100 including the appearance of breasts. The center prescribed this cancer drug as a puberty blocker
00:11:25.480 and feminizing agent for boys. As with most cancer drugs, this drug has a long list of side
00:11:31.080 effects. And the patient experienced one of them, this patient did, which is liver toxicity. He was
00:11:36.120 sent to another unit of the hospital for evaluation and immediately taken off the drug. Afterwards,
00:11:40.360 his mother sent an electronic message to the transgender center saying that we were lucky her
00:11:44.020 family was not the type to sue. Reed also documents a case of a 17 year old girl on testosterone who
00:11:50.320 experienced bleeding from the vagina that became so heavy that she had to be rushed to the emergency
00:11:54.980 room. It turns out that the girl, though transitioning to become a boy, was still having
00:12:01.300 vaginal intercourse. But that activity combined with the testosterone led to severe vaginal
00:12:06.760 lacerations. And Reed says that this girl was not the only case of this kind that she saw.
00:12:12.280 More from Reed. She writes,
00:12:13.720 Other girls were disturbed by the effects of testosterone on their clitoris, which enlarges and
00:12:17.380 grows into what looks like a micro phallus or a tiny penis. I counseled one patient whose enlarged
00:12:22.340 clitoris now extended below her vulva and it chafed and rubbed painfully in her jeans. I advised
00:12:27.160 her to get the kind of compression undergarments worn by biological men who dress to pass as female.
00:12:33.420 At the end of the call, I thought to myself, wow, we hurt this kid. There are rare conditions in babies
00:12:38.980 with babies that are born with atypical genitalia, cases that call for sophisticated care and compassion.
00:12:44.140 But clinics like the one where I worked are creating a whole cohort of kids with atypical
00:12:49.860 genitals. And most of these kids haven't even had sex yet. They had no idea who they were going to
00:12:56.080 be as adults, yet all it took for them to permanently transform themselves was one or two
00:13:00.520 short conversations with a therapist. Reed says that sometimes the parents would only come to
00:13:07.140 understand what they'd consented to on behalf of their children after the fact. So she shares one
00:13:12.920 email from a distraught parent. And the email says, please be advised that I'm revoking my consent
00:13:18.780 for this course of medical treatment. Grades have dropped. There's been an inpatient behavioral health
00:13:22.860 visit. And now he's on five different medications, Lexapro, Trazodone, Buspar, etc. He's a shell of his
00:13:31.640 former self riddled with anxiety. Who knows if it's because of the blockers or other medications. I
00:13:36.060 revoke my consent. I want the hormone blocker removed. Thank you. Reed also reveals that the
00:13:42.440 transgender clinic at St. Louis Children's Hospital would keep itself stocked with new patients through
00:13:47.500 referrals from the psychiatric ward at the same hospital. So kids who are diagnosed with
00:13:53.440 schizophrenia or, you know, bipolar disorder were funneled through the transgender clinic and then
00:13:58.780 given diagnoses of gender dysphoria as well, and then put on these experimental transitional,
00:14:03.880 you know, transition treatments. She mentions one especially disturbing case.
00:14:08.940 Quote, for example, one teenager came to us in the summer of 2022 when he was 17 years old and
00:14:14.480 living in a lockdown facility because he had been, he had been sexually abusing dogs. He'd had an awful
00:14:19.540 childhood. His mother was a drug addict. His father was in prison. Then he grew up in foster care.
00:14:24.080 Whatever treatment he may have been getting, it wasn't working. During our intake, I learned from
00:14:27.920 another caseworker that when he got out, he planned to re-offend because he believed the dogs had
00:14:32.360 willingly submitted. Somewhere along the line, he expressed a desire to become female. So he ended
00:14:37.800 up being seen at our center. From there, he went to a psychologist at the hospital who was known to
00:14:41.920 approve virtually everyone seeking transition. Then our doctor recommended feminizing hormones at the
00:14:46.660 time. I wondered if this was being done as a form of chemical castration. Well, it's always a form of
00:14:53.420 chemical castration. So the answer to that is yes. And then there's the issue of parental consent.
00:14:58.180 Reed explains how the clinic would undermine or manipulate the parents because, you know, in
00:15:03.360 theory, the parents have to consent to this, which obviously, even if they do consent to it,
00:15:08.860 it doesn't remotely make any of this okay. But what you find out is that even parental consent
00:15:15.480 many times is not really consent because they themselves are being manipulated. This was especially
00:15:20.560 easy, as she explains, to do in cases where the parents disagreed about the transition. And the
00:15:27.620 clinic, of course, would always side with whichever parents wanted to transition the child. And history
00:15:33.860 would seem to indicate that the parent who wants to transition the child is like almost always the
00:15:38.640 mother. So she recounts one case, quote, my concerns about this approach to dissenting parents grew in
00:15:43.560 2019 when one of our doctors actually testified in a custody hearing against a father who opposed a
00:15:49.400 mother's wish to start their 11-year-old daughter on puberty blockers. I had done the original intake call
00:15:55.040 and I found the mother quite disturbing. She and the father were getting divorced and the mother
00:15:59.600 described the daughter as kind of a tomboy. So now the mother was convinced her child was trans.
00:16:05.000 But when I asked if her daughter had adopted a boy's name, if she was distressed about her body,
00:16:09.840 if she was saying she felt like a boy, the mother said no. I explained the girl just didn't meet the
00:16:14.780 criteria for an evaluation. Then a month later, the mother called back and said her daughter now
00:16:19.660 used a boy's name and was in distress over her body and wanted to transition. This time,
00:16:24.300 the mom and daughter were given an appointment, our providers decided the girl was trans and
00:16:28.060 prescribed a puberty blocker to prevent her normal development. The father adamantly disagreed,
00:16:31.980 said that this was all coming from the mother, and a custody battle ensued. After the hearing where
00:16:36.440 our doctor testified in favor of transition, the judge sided with the mother. Of course he did.
00:16:43.820 It's not at all hard to interpret what happened here. Obviously, the girl was an innocent,
00:16:48.340 normal child, maybe a bit of a tomboy. And the mother decided that she wanted the girl to be
00:16:55.900 trans. This is what she wanted, perhaps partially fueled by her resentment against the husband that
00:17:01.120 she was divorcing. You see, this is very, very common. As I said, you've got two parents that
00:17:06.700 disagree, and it's almost always the mother. I'm not going to say this has never happened, but I'm not
00:17:12.040 aware of a single case where parents disagree on transition, and it's the father insisting on it,
00:17:18.880 and the mother saying no. Again, maybe that happens. Every case I've ever heard, it's always
00:17:24.220 the mom. And so the mother then learned, she called the clinic, and she learned what she needs to say
00:17:33.000 to get drugs for her daughter, and then called the clinic back reading from that script. And now this
00:17:38.580 abusive Munchausen mommy who is poisoning her daughter has custody of the child because the
00:17:44.540 judge decided that the daughter is safest with the parent who wants to poison her. This is the world
00:17:50.640 we live in. But it's a world that I believe can change, and that we can change, and we are changing.
00:18:01.320 We can put a stop to this kind of child abuse. We can defeat the child mutilators completely and bring
00:18:06.500 down the entire industry nationwide. I believe that. We are winning this fight. And now with
00:18:12.540 whistleblowers finally coming forward, I have hope that some sort of dam is breaking. Because what
00:18:20.840 they're doing to kids is so straightforwardly evil, so unthinkably brutal and deranged and barbaric,
00:18:28.340 so thoroughly indefensible that it cannot be sustained. The edifice is weak and vulnerable,
00:18:34.600 and we can tear it all down, and we will. I truly believe that. But the job isn't even close
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00:19:49.340 This is from CNN. The GOP-led House Select Subcommittee on so-called weaponization of the
00:19:55.680 federal government. They added a little editorialization in there, of course, with the
00:19:59.820 phrase so-called, you know, the so-called weaponization of the federal government. Well,
00:20:04.160 it's not so-called. I mean, we call it that, yes, but that's because that's exactly what's
00:20:07.160 happening with the federal government. Anyway, it's drawing upon a prominent ex-Democrat,
00:20:12.160 two of their Republican Senate colleagues, and a former FBI agent in their first public hearing
00:20:15.600 to discuss how they believe the government has been weaponized against conservatives.
00:20:19.700 Multiple sources familiar with the plans tell CNN. And so this panel or this committee hearing,
00:20:29.460 there's been a lot of committee hearings, a lot of news about committee hearings this week.
00:20:31.720 And usually committee hearings are pretty boring, but there have been some interesting moments,
00:20:36.840 including at this one. So this was, again, a committee hearing about the weaponization of
00:20:40.840 the federal government. And there was one exchange that I thought was interesting. This is between
00:20:47.360 Jonathan Turley and Democrat Representative Daniel Goldman. Goldman wanted to explain why,
00:20:54.760 he wanted to make the case for why the federal government needs to suppress speech sometimes.
00:20:59.560 And so he brought up the old, you know, the old, the old cliche about fire in a crowded theater.
00:21:05.120 And here's how that exchange went. It's a, if it's a, does the first amendment protect someone
00:21:10.440 from yelling fire in a movie theater? Well, unfortunately that one is not yes or no,
00:21:15.420 because that's become a mantra for people. It's the Holmes, uh, Shank, uh, line Holmes himself
00:21:21.900 walked back on it. All right. All right. We don't need a law class here. Um, so, but you do agree
00:21:28.680 though, don't you, that the first amendment does not protect all speech?
00:21:34.560 No, there are limits to speech. All constitutional rights have limits.
00:21:38.320 That's, uh, that's great. That's got shades of the, uh, we asked the questions here that I got at
00:21:42.480 the committee hearing I was testifying from, uh, it's, Oh, we don't need a law class. You asked him
00:21:46.860 a legal question and he got, he got a, he got a good legal answer, but it wasn't the answer he likes.
00:21:52.400 Whoa, we don't need a law class here. You nerd. We weren't asking for all that. Um, by the way,
00:21:59.600 fire in a crowded theater. This was a, as Jonathan Turley was indicating, this is a, this is a phrase
00:22:04.020 used by a Supreme court justice in a case like, uh, it was like a hundred years ago, which, and in
00:22:10.760 that case, which, which found that anti-war activists don't have the right to protest. It actually
00:22:15.700 found that, that, uh, you know, anti-war protests is not protected speech. Um, but that case was then
00:22:22.020 partially overturned in 1969. So it's, it's essentially a legal rationale that was always
00:22:29.040 absurd and has long since been made moot because as it turns out, you can yell fire in a crowded
00:22:36.340 theater, right? Uh, you can do that. Um, now if you want to even like begin to try to penalize
00:22:47.360 someone for yelling fire in a crowded theater, then there would have to be a bunch of conditions
00:22:52.040 met. Like was, was, uh, first of all, was somebody harmed by the fact that someone directly yelled
00:22:59.700 fire in a crowded theater and there was a, and there was a, a big, you know, mob, people running out
00:23:05.380 and then someone was hurt. Did that happen? Like that would need to happen. First of all,
00:23:10.400 um, you didn't need to prove that it was done maliciously. So even in the literal case of someone
00:23:14.800 yelling fire in a crowded theater, there are a whole bunch of conditions, uh, that would need to
00:23:20.580 be met before there's any chance of it, of it, of it, you know, of any kind of criminal charges or
00:23:25.460 misdemeanor charges being filed. But here's, here's the big thing. Here's why this, this analogy
00:23:31.060 doesn't work. Also, this, this is the main thing is that obviously everyone would agree
00:23:40.320 that you, there, there's certainly nothing wrong legally or morally with yelling fire in
00:23:46.980 a crowded theater. If there actually is a fire, right? So the, the first thing, if it can only
00:23:54.620 begin to be wrong to yell it, if there is no fire, and then we got to go through all the
00:23:58.440 other things, right? Like, what did you do? Did you, you yelled fire? Did you know that
00:24:02.200 there wasn't a fire? Were you doing it maliciously? Did it actually cause direct, you know, physical
00:24:06.300 harm? All those things. But if there is a fire, then not only can you yell fire in a crowded
00:24:14.040 theater, but you would be very wrong if you didn't. If you, if you saw the fire and no one
00:24:21.140 else notices it and you see it starting in the corner of the room and you just get up and pack your
00:24:24.640 stuff and walk out of the, um, of the theater and leave everyone to burn to death, well, then you
00:24:31.140 might have some liability in that case because you didn't say anything, or at least you should.
00:24:37.400 So when you bring this, when you bring this over into the realm of metaphor, because when they bring
00:24:42.300 up fire to crowded theater, we're not actually talking about people literally yelling fire to
00:24:45.500 crowded theater. They're, they're drawing an analogy. They're comparing it to something.
00:24:48.520 Um, yet you would need to, to prove that the metaphorical fire isn't there. So, you know,
00:24:56.340 here's, here's a, here's a time when they often use this, a personal example when they use it against
00:25:03.160 me or against people that are, uh, you know, anti, um, anti-child mutilation. When we, when we
00:25:09.700 describe what's what we just heard, you know, what we just heard from the whistleblower, what's
00:25:13.240 happening? Because when we describe that as child abuse or child mutilation, well, the other side,
00:25:19.780 they say, well, this is, you're yelling fire to crowded theater. You know, and if, if one of
00:25:23.620 these child mutilators, which they would, if one of these, uh, gender affirming doctors gets hurt,
00:25:28.360 well, then it's your fault. Well, yeah, that's because you're claiming that the fire isn't there,
00:25:35.980 but it, but it is. See, the fire is actually there in this case. We're calling them child mutilators,
00:25:41.740 but they are. And so very clearly we are allowed to point that out because it is actually happening.
00:25:53.260 So this is a case where, um, they want us to ignore the fire. They can't deny that the fire
00:26:01.260 is there because it is, but what they're telling us is that we have to keep our mouth shut and just
00:26:06.320 let everyone burn to death. Only in this case, it's not, you know, it's not the people in the theater
00:26:09.640 burning to death. It's, it's kids. We have to, we have to keep our mouth shut and let the, uh,
00:26:14.720 the children be incinerated so as not to yell fire. No, um, we could put all the complicated
00:26:22.780 legal discussions to the side and simply establish that if there is actually a fire, not only can you
00:26:29.460 yell it, but you damn well better. There was a, one other moment from the committee hearing that I
00:26:37.800 attended on Wednesday that I wanted to share with you. And this one isn't quite as explosive as the
00:26:42.100 one that doesn't involve me. This is, uh, but it was, it was, it was also interesting. It was keep
00:26:46.820 in mind, it was a right after they, they asked me questions first and then, uh, and then they,
00:26:50.860 you know, it weren't really questions, but they were just using as an opportunity to like try to,
00:26:56.100 uh, uh, assassinate my character and all that. And they were done with that, uh, because they were tired
00:27:02.200 of me answering them and they couldn't trap me. And then they brought a, a, an actual doctor up,
00:27:06.980 uh, and started questioning him. And this is a doctor who is, who is anti-child mutilation. He's
00:27:12.440 on the right, he's on the pro sanity side of it. And they tried the same credentialism thing on him.
00:27:19.060 In fact, the exact same guy, the exact same legislator tried it on him. The same thing that
00:27:23.640 he did to me, but listen to how this went. What was your, are you, are you a pediatric? What was
00:27:30.680 your specialty? Dr. Hamada. I am board certified in obst, uh, I can't even talk. Obstetrics and
00:27:37.080 gynecology as well as family medicine with a focus on sports medicine as well.
00:27:41.620 Resident Clements. No endocrinology or pediatrics?
00:27:45.600 That's, well, pediatrics is part of family medicine, family medicine. And then also, uh,
00:27:51.200 with regards to endocrinology, that's a big portion of what we do in obstetrics and gynecology.
00:27:55.960 And what's your formal training in that? Um, four years of medical school.
00:28:00.420 And residency with, uh, oral and written boards and continued maintenance of certification.
00:28:06.560 You're recognized. Do you do any residency in endocrinology?
00:28:09.700 No. Thank you.
00:28:12.840 Thank you. Uh, by the way, that doctor's Omar Hamada. He gave me his card. Uh, and
00:28:17.600 I'll let you know, cause this is this, that's, this is one of the good ones. This is one of the good
00:28:22.000 guys in the medical field, but it's just, it's great because it's the same, again, the same guy
00:28:28.220 that tried that with, with me. Now he brings a doctor up and what he's trying to do, he's doing
00:28:32.900 the credentialism thing. And he's, he's trying to prove that Dr. Hamada's views don't count because
00:28:39.240 he doesn't have the, he doesn't check the right credential boxes, but every, but, but every box he
00:28:45.080 presents, Dr. Hamada does check it. So he has to keep getting more and more specific. Well, you don't
00:28:49.860 do pediatrics, do you? Well, actually that's part of family medicine. But what about, what's your
00:28:54.260 experience in endocrinology? Oh yeah. Well, we work with that all the time. Uh, but, uh, but did
00:28:59.060 you do a residency in, in endocrinology? Well, no, I didn't do that. Thank you. No more questions.
00:29:04.140 Keep getting more and more specific because no matter what he brought up, it's he, it checked
00:29:10.040 the box. And then you notice at the end of that, there was no follow-up question. It wasn't leading
00:29:14.140 anywhere. It's like, let me just find the one slight you've been, you've been working in,
00:29:21.100 in medicine. You've been working in the field for years and years and years. You are definitely an
00:29:25.780 expert in this subject, but let me find the one little gap, the one supposed gap that I can find.
00:29:32.980 And, uh, and I'll call attention to that. And that'll be the end of it because as it turns out,
00:29:39.840 um, they do the credentialism thing, but it doesn't actually matter, obviously,
00:29:47.360 because I can get up there and I didn't even go to college. And so they can say, well,
00:29:53.940 it doesn't get your opinion. It doesn't count. You didn't even go to college. And then a guy who's
00:29:58.220 been in the medical field for decades, he get up there and he's got all kinds of relevant
00:30:02.000 experience, but he doesn't matter. It doesn't count for him either because whether you have the
00:30:07.900 credentials or not, the only credential that actually matters to these people is whether you
00:30:13.860 agree with them. That is the only thing they care about, which is also why you notice they never do
00:30:20.820 the credentialism thing with someone on their side. There were other people at the hearing who spoke up
00:30:27.460 in favor of child mutilation and were not doctors. Okay. And yet for some reason they weren't called up
00:30:34.640 and asked about their credentials. Nobody called them up and said, well, what are you, what's your
00:30:39.320 expertise? Because as long as you agree with the party line, that is the one single credential that
00:30:47.940 matters. That's it. Another quick update on that, by the way, Representative Caleb Hemmer,
00:30:54.600 who we talked about yesterday, he was the guy that tried the media matters hit piece on me. And then,
00:30:58.220 and then I asked him one simple question and he, you know, he recoiled in horror and fell silent
00:31:05.400 and totally humiliated himself. And, you know, yesterday on the show, we played the clip and
00:31:10.580 I did encourage the sweet baby gang to provide feedback to this elected official because I
00:31:18.760 assumed, and this is the truth. I just honestly assumed that he's an elected official and he would
00:31:25.220 really want to hear feedback from his constituents and even people who aren't his constituents, just from
00:31:31.000 just from Americans and taxpayers. I figured he'd really want to hear that. I was really trying to
00:31:35.520 do him a favor, but it turns out that he didn't want to hear anyone's feedback because as of this
00:31:41.700 morning, Representative Caleb Hemmer had removed all the contact information from his website. He took
00:31:49.300 it all down. I'm not sure if that's even legal. You know, we would need to get a, I don't have the
00:31:56.700 credentials as a lawyer. We need to get a lawyer in here. But as a, as a elected representative,
00:32:00.920 can you just take down your contact information? Can you remove it so that your constituents can't
00:32:06.060 contact you? Obviously this went a certain way. It's not how Caleb Hemmer had planned.
00:32:13.160 You know, he thought, here's what he planned. Here's what he thought. I don't, I don't think he
00:32:16.500 thought this through all the way, but what he was planning was that I would get up there and he would
00:32:21.780 have his hit piece and he'd present it to me. And then I guess he assumed that I would say,
00:32:27.620 oh, you're right. I, uh, well, you know what? I'm really sorry about all. I'm very, I'm just very
00:32:32.640 sorry. And I, um, and, uh, and I, I, I will back away now and I will, I guess that's what he expected.
00:32:41.480 He expected me to apologize and bow my head solemnly and then walk away. And then he would have that
00:32:47.540 moment and he could brag about it. He could post it and be beautiful. Didn't go that way. Instead,
00:32:51.860 he humiliated himself. Um, and then he had a whole bunch of people trying to contact him to give
00:32:57.400 feedback that was probably quite negative. And then I went on Tucker Carlson last night and Tucker
00:33:02.960 played that clip and had some, uh, very critical things to say about representative Caleb Hemmer by
00:33:07.560 name. And so now his whole world is like falling down on top of him. Not how he thought it would go.
00:33:14.380 But here's the thing. If you try to defame me, uh, if you try to use lazy hit pieces on me,
00:33:21.020 if you try to lay a trap for me and you do it all in an effort to protect child butchers,
00:33:26.760 then this is going to be the response. Okay. You're going to, you're, you're,
00:33:33.060 it's going to be a consequence for that. So go ahead and take your shot, give your best effort.
00:33:39.300 Um, and then it's going to be my turn. And so you're learning that Caleb.
00:33:45.460 I don't think you quite understand like what time it is here and what kind of conservatives
00:33:52.020 and what version of the right you're dealing with. Um, this is, and I, and I know maybe you,
00:33:57.580 you know, you're, you're used to the version of the right, the old right, where you kind of go along
00:34:02.820 and you controlled opposition and you play your part. And that's not the case here. Um,
00:34:08.340 we don't go along with the game and bow down dismissively. Like we're, we're playing for keeps.
00:34:14.760 So get your head in the game next time, buddy. Speaking of trans issues, uh, here, here's someone
00:34:21.300 trying to work out how to feel about being misgendered. I thought this was kind of interesting.
00:34:26.520 So I was just picking up my vehicle from an oil change and the person came out of the garage and
00:34:31.480 said, what can I do for you young lady? And I know that this was intended to be a greeting of respect
00:34:36.900 and kindness or politeness maybe, but I had this immediate, like, okay, young, maybe comparatively
00:34:42.840 I'll take it. But I was like, lady, what do I do with that? Like, it's so complicated because I know
00:34:48.460 this person only intended kindness. There was a smile on their face. Like I know that they weren't
00:34:53.400 trying to like patronize me or gender me, but I felt so gendered and so inappropriately
00:34:59.160 gendered. And I don't know what to do with that. Like, what do you do with that? When someone like
00:35:03.220 has the best of intentions and I don't really want to spend all of my spoons trying to educate
00:35:07.820 someone at the Costco car center? What do you do with that? Uh, what you do with that is you
00:35:14.960 live your life. Um, you move on and you live your life and you leave Costco and, uh, and that's
00:35:24.880 it. That's what you do with that. These people, they, they are, they are, uh, they fall into
00:35:34.580 this state of like paralysis after just normal, polite interactions. They feel like they have
00:35:42.880 to analyze all of that. And, and every, every interaction that they have, every interaction
00:35:49.040 they have with anyone is loaded. Every interaction, it's a loaded interaction and, uh, nothing can
00:35:56.560 just, there's no such thing in this, in the world of this kind of person, there's no such
00:36:01.080 thing as just a polite, normal interaction. You and I as normal, sane people, we have those,
00:36:05.740 that's, that's mostly interactions we have in life or just with like people, acquaintances,
00:36:09.640 you pass the industry, you say, you know, you say hello to someone and that's it. That's
00:36:13.120 most of the people you meet. It's that's easy. There's no reason to even think about
00:36:16.080 it. That doesn't exist for these people that are, um, you know, but that's also the consequence
00:36:23.460 of believing that you are the center of the universe and everything that happens is extremely
00:36:29.620 significant. And everyone who talks to you has to talk to you a certain way and approach
00:36:34.360 you a certain way. And if they don't, then it's this traumatic moment in your life.
00:36:38.120 This is the consequence. All right. One other thing I wanted to mention, uh, a very odd and,
00:36:45.900 uh, I think troubling story. And I don't know, I can't make heads or tails, but I don't know
00:36:50.200 exactly what to make of it, but this is from Newsweek. James O'Keefe, the founder of the
00:36:54.540 controversial right-wing video organization Project Veritas has taken paid leave from the
00:36:59.240 company with his future currently in doubt. According to an internal message to Project
00:37:02.940 Veritas employees sent by the organization's executive director, Daniel Strack, uh, seen
00:37:07.960 by the New York Magazine's intelligence or website. O'Keefe is taking a few weeks off of well-deserved
00:37:12.500 paid time off. The message did not expand upon while the founder of, uh, of the undercover
00:37:17.880 artist group is on leave from the company. And a further statement, Strack said, like all
00:37:23.000 newsrooms at this stage, the Project Veritas board of directors and management are constantly
00:37:26.260 evaluating what the best, best path forward is for the organization. Um, now it was initially
00:37:32.320 this is what they said. They said, well, she's taking leave. We don't know exactly what's going
00:37:34.860 on. And then, uh, a leaked memo came out, which reveals that Project Veritas employees have raised
00:37:43.460 concerns about his behavior to the board. The memo obtained by the Daily Beast alleged that
00:37:48.140 workers were troubled and frustrated by O'Keefe's management style, that he was outright cruel to
00:37:52.840 staff members. Project Veritas employees said that O'Keefe engages in berating and public
00:37:57.620 crucifixions of staff members. Um, O'Keefe is also alleged to have forced workers to take lie
00:38:03.160 detector tests to prove they weren't leaking information about the company. Um, spat at them
00:38:08.780 allegedly. Anyway, then it goes on. I read the whole letter. It's, it's, it's really bizarre to be
00:38:14.980 honest with you because there's really, there's nothing, there's nothing terribly salacious or
00:38:20.320 extraordinary. Um, there's even, uh, someone mentions in the, in the letter, there's a thing about how
00:38:26.020 he took a pregnant woman's sandwich. Allegedly that's mentioned to just a bunch of weird and
00:38:33.560 mostly kind of petty complaints and all amounting to an accusation that James O'Keefe is a jerk
00:38:39.500 basically. And, um, that those are, that's what the accusations come down to and enough to
00:38:47.080 try to expel him from his own organization. I do think the time is extremely suspicious
00:38:53.720 because O'Keefe just had a, this major bombshell exposing Pfizer, one of the most significant
00:39:00.260 scoops in recent memory. And then, and then that's when they try to take them out. So that means that
00:39:06.660 either this is being coordinated by Pfizer somehow, or it's being coordinated, coordinated by people who
00:39:13.360 are too dumb to at least hold off for a bit. So it doesn't look like it's being coordinated by
00:39:18.380 Pfizer. Either the timing is directly connected or it's not. And if it's not, then why would you do
00:39:27.020 it at a time when it's going to appear to be connected? But like I said, I don't know exactly
00:39:32.160 what's going on. I also don't know. I don't know, uh, which of O'Keefe's alleged rude behaviors are,
00:39:37.740 are true if any, but I will say this. Um, what he's being accused of is at worst being a jerk,
00:39:45.060 right? That's what he's being accused of. And I'm not saying I believe it. I don't, I don't know
00:39:49.500 James O'Keefe. I met him a couple of times. We've texted back and forth a few times. Seems like a nice
00:39:53.460 guy to me. I've never heard anything to the contrary, but my point is I'm actually perfectly
00:40:01.020 willing to believe that he could be a jerk sometimes. And not because I get that vibe from
00:40:07.000 him. Um, no, that's not the point, but because he's doing great things and, uh, he's a high
00:40:16.160 achiever and high achievers who do great things historically, you know, can be jerks sometimes
00:40:22.400 in certain situations like great men, the people who get things done, uh, visionaries, which James
00:40:30.000 O'Keefe is, I believe it's these people have quirks. Sometimes they can often be, they can make me
00:40:35.200 difficult to get along with on a personal level. There's nothing unprecedented about that. Again,
00:40:39.780 I don't know if that's the case with James. I have no idea, but it could be simply because
00:40:44.680 he's one of the, uh, get stuff done kind of guys. And if that is true, so what? That's the price of
00:40:51.420 having a, a person like that leading your organization. And it's the only reason why your organization
00:40:58.340 exists or has achieved all the great things that it has. It's a price well worth paying.
00:41:05.200 Um, like you're not going to get a great person who does great things and is a visionary and achieves
00:41:11.600 high achiever and who also gets along with everyone all the time and everything is perfect.
00:41:17.100 And he has no weird quirks about his behavior and he never, you know, uh, has a bad temper.
00:41:21.700 Like that doesn't exist. You're not going to find that. So you could find someone who's a little bit
00:41:26.600 more gentle in their behavior and a little bit easier to get along with, but they're not going to
00:41:31.180 have that greatness, high achiever fact factor to them. So I support James O'Keefe a hundred percent.
00:41:37.960 That's all that to say, all that boils down to, I support him a hundred percent. Um, and, uh, I,
00:41:43.140 you can't have project Veritas without him. He is project Veritas. And so I really hope that
00:41:48.120 whatever's going on, they can, they can work it out. Let's get to the comment section.
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00:43:01.780 Jerry S. says, Matt covertly sending the SBG after Caleb Hemmer is just too good.
00:43:07.380 Was it covert? Was it, was it actually covert? I think it was sort of overt.
00:43:11.560 Uh, but sending after, you know, that, that's not the way that I would phrase it. Again,
00:43:15.800 just people, if there were any concerned citizens that had feedback or questions,
00:43:20.260 I was simply providing them the opportunity to deliver that feedback and answer those questions.
00:43:26.160 I had no idea that Caleb Hemmer would, um, would, would not be welcoming to that. I, I had no idea.
00:43:34.220 I thought that he would want that. Really. Uh, Ray Parker says,
00:43:40.160 I just called Hemmer's office and they hung up on me after I asked the question. So brave.
00:43:45.480 And the question, by the way, you know, so there's a new question now.
00:43:48.700 You know, what is a woman? That's a great question to ask. That's still, that's still a question.
00:43:52.520 Still the question in a lot of ways. But I think there's a new, there's a new the question,
00:43:57.300 especially when it comes particularly to this issue of, uh, of how it affects kids.
00:44:00.560 Can a 16 year old girl meaningfully consent to having her body parts removed?
00:44:06.160 And that, that is the question, right? And anytime you get an, if you ever get an opportunity
00:44:10.160 in front of a Democrat lawmaker, or even anybody on the left who's supporting this,
00:44:14.140 ask them that question. And I would phrase it exactly like that. Can a 16 year old girl
00:44:18.260 meaningfully consent to having her body parts removed? Can she? Because I will submit to you
00:44:23.960 that nobody on that side, especially anyone with any kind of prominence,
00:44:27.680 and especially if they're on camera or being, if it's being documented, they cannot answer it.
00:44:31.820 They know they can't. So that should be the question that we ask. Um, Ryder says,
00:44:38.860 I started taking steroids at 22 after learning about the potential sterility that can occur
00:44:42.360 from using them. My 22 year old brain decided it wasn't a big deal because I was sure that I
00:44:46.260 would never want kids. Four years later, I became Catholic, stopped taking steroids and started
00:44:49.420 taking recovery drugs like HCG in a desperate attempt to undo the potential damage I'd done to myself
00:44:54.240 from years of testosterone injections. My view of wanting children did a complete
00:44:57.660 180. Thanks be to God. My wife is currently pregnant with our first, hopefully of many,
00:45:02.540 I can only imagine how painful it will be for these kids in 10 years when they snap out of the
00:45:06.280 delusion and realize that it really is too late for them and the damage is done. Well, congratulations
00:45:10.660 to you. And I'm glad that you were able to reverse the damages that were done. And the fact that you,
00:45:15.440 yeah, look, I didn't take steroids when I was 22, but, um, it's the kind of thing like it,
00:45:22.560 if I, if I had gotten really, really into sort of gym culture and the gym bro thing at the age of
00:45:28.220 F22, I may have done that as a 22 year old. Like you're only, you're 22. You do it. It's yeah,
00:45:34.580 you're an adult, but you do a lot of really stupid and impulsive things and you're not thinking about
00:45:39.860 the future. And especially if you're a man at 22 and you're not in a serious relationship,
00:45:44.240 then you're, you're probably not thinking much about having kids and you, and just like I,
00:45:49.180 when I was 22, I couldn't even imagine, I can remember being 22 and thinking about
00:45:55.320 the possibility of having kids sometime in the future. And I just, I couldn't wrap my head
00:46:00.520 around it. Like what? I have a kid myself as a dad. That's like, it's absurd. Um,
00:46:07.380 and so if there was some, I can't even imagine what, I don't know what it would be in an analogy,
00:46:12.240 but if there was some thing that I really wanted, uh, and the deal was someone said to me,
00:46:18.260 well, you can have this thing, but, uh, then the deal is like this, with this genie that I'm talking
00:46:23.180 to that you have to give up the ability to have kids in the future at 22, I probably would have
00:46:28.740 said, Oh yeah, I'll take that deal at 16. I definitely would have taken it. And then by 25,
00:46:36.420 I had kids. So things change radically and drastically as you get older. Um,
00:46:44.220 that's just the reality. Go chasing waterfall says, I love your approach, Matt. I've been,
00:46:50.560 uh, taking, uh, I've taken to using your method of asking a very simple question,
00:46:54.400 have left us explain their abhorrent views and never are they able to do anything other than back
00:46:58.920 away like cowards or pivot to something totally unrelated. Uh, yeah, well, the questioning sort of
00:47:04.880 approach is, uh, I certainly didn't, I wouldn't call it my approach. Like I, I didn't invent this.
00:47:09.440 I didn't invent the idea of asking your opposition questions to getting that, trying to get them to
00:47:12.980 clarify their own position. But it is, I think far and away, uh, the most effective method,
00:47:20.020 especially these days dealing with the modern left where they, they, they truly can't define
00:47:24.960 any of the words that they use that that's the truth. Um, everything is malleable. Everything
00:47:30.740 has to be because this is, this is the consequence of, of being a relativist. And so when you demand
00:47:39.660 that they, when you take kind of the, what is approach, what is that? What is that? Use this
00:47:45.920 word. What does that mean? They'll try to treat it like semantics. They'll treat it like it doesn't
00:47:50.360 matter. But of, but of course that's absurd. The meaning of the words that you're using to convey
00:47:56.360 your position that can't be semantics. Like I can't, we can't have a conversation until I understand
00:48:02.620 what you're trying to convey. So yeah, as I said, I think that this is a, this is a method that I
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00:49:27.780 A few weeks ago, vice held a panel discussion with young Asian Americans. Um, and here's how
00:49:33.280 they describe the point and theme of the conversation. What does it mean to be Asian in
00:49:38.080 America from hate crimes to the model minority myth to affirmative action, a politically divisive
00:49:43.060 panel hashes out the most controversial issues facing the AAPI community today. Now this is the kind
00:49:50.020 discussion, especially when hosted by an outlet like vice that is nearly certain to be excruciatingly
00:49:54.240 boring and annoying. It's already guaranteed that the panel will be stacked with leftists and leftists
00:49:59.120 are ideologically required to never say anything remotely interesting, especially when the subject
00:50:04.800 has anything to do with race or ethnicity. But fortunately for the viewers, there was at least
00:50:09.540 one young man who managed to make it onto the panel despite having a mind of his own. A Twitter
00:50:15.200 user named Kalem posted a couple of videos featuring this man. Vince is his name and his contributions
00:50:20.720 to the conversation are quite interesting. The clips are revealing and instructive and also kind
00:50:25.300 of hilarious, not because of what Vince says. I mean, what he says is, is, is good and is correct.
00:50:31.360 Uh, but there's, there's nothing hilarious about saying something that's true. What makes it funny
00:50:35.260 is because of how the other people on the panel react to him saying those things. So watch this.
00:50:40.920 Assimilation. Is it a good thing? Is it a bad thing? Is it a burden? Is it an opportunity?
00:50:46.860 I think assimilation is not just a great thing. It's a necessary thing. Huh? No society can hold
00:50:51.820 together where people have nothing in common. They don't speak the same language. They don't practice
00:50:55.340 the same things. And, you know, you may look at something like just food habits or what you eat and
00:51:00.040 think that's fairly frivolous. But the truth of the matter is that on a broader level, when we're talking
00:51:04.300 about more big picture things, differences in race, culture, religion, all these things, people have
00:51:09.300 fought wars, violent wars, killed each other over these things for thousands of years. If America is
00:51:14.380 to hold together, assimilation, not just good or bad, necessary. I don't think it's going to be
00:51:19.260 possible for America to survive as a stable functioning society if people don't to some degree say, well,
00:51:25.940 here's what we're going to commonly agree upon. But who gets to choose it? The majority culture, I suppose.
00:51:30.820 And what's the majority culture? The people with power. And who's people with power? Who's people with
00:51:34.200 power? White people? Well, I don't, I don't know if that's... I'm going to say it! White people! It's okay!
00:51:40.480 I don't know if that's necessarily so true. I mean... Wait, can you unpack? Yeah.
00:51:44.160 I don't... Let's elaborate. I don't think a particularly white, quote-unquote,
00:51:48.660 interest controls things like... In America. ...pop culture.
00:51:51.460 Do you believe white supremacy exists? I think there are people who believe in it. I think
00:51:55.280 there's people who all believe that their race is superior. So you don't believe in white supremacy?
00:51:59.300 Do you believe America is a white supremacist state? No. Not at all. And not found... No white
00:52:04.600 supremacist state would even, like, allow us to be doing this. Like, I don't understand. It's a
00:52:09.280 white supremacist. There's just KKK people walking. Actually, I go around New York City. I notice that,
00:52:14.240 like, I guess Brooklyn a little bit different. Most of the people here are not white, and they're
00:52:17.560 doing their thing. So I don't... What does doing their thing mean to you? Going to work.
00:52:21.520 Are they making the same amount of money? I gotta say, I like this Vince guy. I mean,
00:52:26.380 I like it for all the reasons that everyone else on the panel is shocked and horrified by him.
00:52:30.000 First of all, his point about assimilation is obviously correct. A nation must be bound together,
00:52:34.600 united by more than just the simple fact that all of its people exist inside the same geographical
00:52:39.460 boundary. And that's even more the case today when the geographical boundary is so porous,
00:52:44.700 and apparently, according to this administration, negotiable. So we have to have something else
00:52:49.540 holding us together. To be a people, not just people, but to be a people, we must have a shared
00:52:55.900 culture, shared values, shared traditions, a shared language. Without those things,
00:53:00.220 you end up with fracturing and division, and that leads to violence, and that leads to chaos and
00:53:04.660 dysfunction, all of which we're experiencing today. Of course, everyone else in the room is
00:53:10.520 offended by this notion, mostly because they're conditioned to be offended by it. These are
00:53:14.860 automatons operating based on their programming. That's also why the obnoxious girl in the front row
00:53:19.740 has purple hair. You know, she can't help but become a parody of herself. It's like, why do these
00:53:25.260 obnoxious liberal women, why even do the purple hair anymore? You are willingly making yourself
00:53:33.580 into a stereotype, into one of the most mocked stereotypes in existence right now. You are saying,
00:53:40.980 I'm going to be that person. But it's all programming. And she is aghast that Vince would
00:53:48.120 suggest assimilating with the majority culture because she claims the majority culture is white.
00:53:53.820 And she sees white as automatically bad, and she holds this view even while telling herself that she
00:53:59.640 is not the racist one. She, along with her leftist cohorts, are also scandalized that Vince will not
00:54:05.720 label America a white supremacist state. But as he points out, if America was run by violent white
00:54:10.560 supremacists who control everything, the first thing they'd probably do is stop you from pointing
00:54:16.680 this out. Okay? Like, this is a pretty good indication. If you want to know, do I live in a
00:54:24.100 white supremacist violent state? Well, can you stand anywhere? Can you go anywhere and just say,
00:54:30.120 this is a violent white supremacist state, and nothing happens to you? Oh, no, no, sorry. It's not
00:54:35.600 nothing happens to you. You can go anywhere and say that, and you'll be applauded. Well, if that's the
00:54:39.980 case, then you don't live in a white supremacist state. Because non-white people can say and do
00:54:45.960 whatever they want, and they can condemn white people all they want without any repercussions
00:54:50.540 whatsoever, unless, as repercussions, you count, again, applause. It's not exactly what you'd expect
00:54:56.440 a white supremacist dystopia to operate. That's not how you expect it to operate. Like, if you didn't
00:55:01.720 know anything about this country, if you're crawling out of a cave, and someone told you,
00:55:06.760 oh, you know, I got some bad news for you. You know, you crawled out of a cave into a white
00:55:12.380 supremacist state. You, you, just so you know, you live in a, in a systemically racist white
00:55:19.040 supremacist state. When you hear that, and you don't know anything, you, immediately your mind
00:55:24.700 is going to conjure all kinds of images, and you're going to make all kinds of assumptions
00:55:28.980 about what sort of country this is. And then you're going to get out into the world, and you're
00:55:32.900 going to find that, wow, it's not anything like that at all. In fact, wow, there's like, there's,
00:55:38.280 there's non-white people all over the place running around talking about how much they hate
00:55:42.060 white people. And then there are other groups of people, there are white people following behind
00:55:46.200 them applauding. Well, that's not the kind of white supremacist state I was expecting.
00:55:51.700 But I do have to admit, the guy at the end was on to something. He asked whether non-whites make
00:55:55.980 the same amount of money as whites. And the answer is no, they don't. That's true.
00:55:59.500 Because most of the people in that room, in fact, belong to ethnicities that make
00:56:04.200 more, more money than white people on average. Many Asian immigrants come to this country and
00:56:09.760 quickly find themselves in a higher income bracket than the average white family. The median household
00:56:14.920 income for Asians in general is $100,000. For white households, it's $77,000. This remains perhaps
00:56:21.660 the most inconvenient truth of all inconvenient truths for the race hustlers. Because if America
00:56:26.640 is a systemically racist country, systemically racist against non-whites, how could it possibly
00:56:32.360 be the case that many non-white communities fare better than whites? In fact, Vince, always on the
00:56:39.700 ball, makes this very point later in the discussion. Listen.
00:56:43.640 Statistically, it is true that Asians, right, on average, make more money, like in terms of medium,
00:56:49.900 make more money, better test scores, getting into better colleges, all that stuff. I think the
00:56:53.220 question is, why is that? And I don't know if model minority, whatever that label wants to mean.
00:56:57.760 That's actually a myth because we cannot be... Well, no, listen. Well, let me finish my point.
00:57:02.340 We need to observe what makes people successful and unsuccessful. And I think when you look at
00:57:07.240 trends that are generally true in the Asian community, not of everyone, but are generally true,
00:57:11.220 usually you have families that are sticking together. You have, you know, people are taught to
00:57:17.880 work hard in school, not get into trouble. I think that translates to why Asians on mass are successful.
00:57:23.140 And I don't think you have to be Asian or white for that matter to not have kids out of wedlock,
00:57:27.720 not, you know, commit crime, not cause trouble, whatever it is. What is happening?
00:57:31.320 It's just a matter of like, well, common sense, that's what makes people successful. And if that's
00:57:36.380 so-called assimilation, having a nuclear family, buying a house, going to school, whatever it is,
00:57:40.960 then yeah, okay, call me a pro-assimilation then. I think there's a difference between
00:57:44.800 assimilation and erasure. Yes.
00:57:48.720 Now, needless to say, Vince is once again, completely and irrefutably right. Asian Americans
00:57:53.500 do very well in this country. They also tend to have intact families. This is not a coincidence.
00:57:56.980 In fact, if you look at a ranking of median household income by race, and then you look at
00:58:01.920 a ranking of divorce rate by race and out of wedlock birth by race, the lists are identical, okay?
00:58:08.240 The groups that are less likely to get divorced, less likely to have out of wedlock births are also
00:58:14.360 less likely to be poor. As the rates of broken homes increase, the rates of poverty increase between
00:58:20.920 whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians. The black community is the poorest. It's also the community
00:58:26.620 with the most out of wedlock births and broken homes. The statistics here, again, are irrefutable.
00:58:31.260 The only crime that Vince committed was noticing it. And as we've seen time and time again,
00:58:35.720 one of the great moral crimes in our culture today, one of the only moral crimes is the crime of
00:58:41.260 noticing. Like, we all know that black people as a group generally fare the worst by every societal
00:58:47.440 measure, pretty much. We also know that as a group, they have the highest rates of single-parent
00:58:51.540 households and kids raised without stable and reliable parental guidance. We all know all of
00:58:56.220 that, but these are facts we're supposed to keep on the peripheral. You're not allowed to turn your head
00:59:00.000 slightly to the side and look directly at them. And if you do look at them, you certainly are not
00:59:05.760 permitted to draw any connections or form any conclusions. And if you do look at the facts and
00:59:10.700 you form conclusions, they certainly better not be conclusions that would, even to the slightest
00:59:14.760 extent, put the onus on the black community to improve its own situation. Okay, you better not be
00:59:20.280 implying or suggesting or, God forbid, outright saying that the black community can do certain things
00:59:25.960 itself to improve its own position. Like, for example, have kids, get married before you have kids
00:59:31.400 and then stay married. Like, you're not allowed to ever say that, though I just did. That's the
00:59:36.740 greatest heresy of all. Of course, the other people in the room reacted as you would expect,
00:59:41.560 those in a religious cult to react to heresy. If you're only listening to the audio, you're not
00:59:46.020 going to be able to fully appreciate the scene, because as Vince calmly explains the benefits of
00:59:50.280 having intact families and discipline and, you know, and encouraging education, the other
00:59:54.860 panelists, they were left slack-jawed. You know, they stared in horror, their mouths agape. They
01:00:01.680 shook their heads. They could not believe what they were hearing. They were in close proximity
01:00:06.140 with common sense, perhaps for the first time in their lives, and they found that the experience
01:00:10.780 was terrifying. That, to me, as always, is the most disturbing thing. Yes, obviously, Vince is right
01:00:17.080 about everything he said. Obviously, the other panelists are wrong, but it's not just that they're
01:00:21.300 wrong, okay? You can be wrong about stuff. It's just that they, and it's not just that they don't
01:00:26.040 agree with Vince's common sense, data-backed analysis of the situation. It's really that they,
01:00:31.280 it's that they were shocked by the analysis. Okay, it's one thing to be wrong, to misinterpret it,
01:00:36.440 to misread it, but you're shocked by it. It's that they apparently had never heard anything like it
01:00:42.560 before. It's one thing to disagree with an obvious truth. It's another to be stunned by it,
01:00:49.540 and that speaks to the suffocating, stifling bubble that these people have been living in. They clearly
01:00:54.960 believe what they believe merely because it's the only belief that was ever presented to them,
01:01:00.380 and they lack the intellectual curiosity to survey the other options. They have nearly totally
01:01:05.500 insulated themselves from everything that might challenge their worldview. So when it does happen,
01:01:10.260 and they finally and by accident encounter such a challenge, they practically faint like damsels in
01:01:16.560 distress. And that's what we saw there. And it's why Vince is not canceled today. In fact, I just found
01:01:23.620 out as I was preparing the segment that Vince has his own YouTube channel, which you can find if you
01:01:27.860 search Vince Dow D-A-O on YouTube, and you should look him up. He's obviously a brilliant guy. The same
01:01:33.720 cannot be said for the others in the room, and that is why they are today canceled. That'll do it for
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01:01:47.560 talk to you on Monday. Godspeed.
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