Ep. 1111 - A Whistleblower Reveals What's Really Going On Inside Gender Transition Clinics
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A whistleblower from inside the child gender transition industry has finally come forward, and what she reveals is horrifying. Also, a congressional Democrat learns that the old yelling fire in a crowded theater trope is not actually a valid argument against free speech. Plus, reports suggest that Project Veritas is trying to push James O'Keefe out, even though James OKeefe is ProjectVeritas. And, a guy with common sense somehow made it onto the panel and proceeds to offend and terrify the rest of them. We ll talk about all that and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, a whistleblower from inside the child gender transition industry
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has finally come forward, and what she reveals is horrifying. I'll walk you through the whole
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story today. Also, a congressional Democrat learns that the old yelling fire in a crowded
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theater trope is not actually a valid argument against free speech. I have one more clip that
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you haven't seen yet from that now infamous committee hearing in Tennessee that I'll play
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for you. Plus, reports suggest that Project Veritas is trying to push James O'Keefe out,
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even though James O'Keefe is Project Veritas. In our daily cancellation, Vice holds a panel
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discussion on race. One guy with common sense somehow made it onto the panel and proceeds
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to offend and terrify the rest of them. It's pretty hilarious. We'll talk about all that
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In the fight against gender ideology and the abuse and mutilation of children,
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we have been operating at a disadvantage. Well, at many disadvantages. You know,
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the institutions are against us, the elites and corporate interests, and nearly everyone with
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power is against us. Most of the platforms that we use to spread our message are hostile to the
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message and to us. And the activists on the other side are empowered to act with impunity,
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defaming us, threatening us without any consequence. They're also evil to their core
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and beholden to lies, which means that they not only are allowed to do and say whatever they want,
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but also are willing to do or say anything. All of these are disadvantages for Team Sanity. But
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in spite of these obstacles, our team, Team Sanity, has made enormous headway recently. Every battle is
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stacked against us. And yet we have had some tremendous victories, both against the ideology
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and against the mutilation industry specifically. Yet all of these hurdles create another and
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especially significant one, is that we haven't been able to get access to anyone on the inside
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of that industry, the mutilation industry. We've heard from former patients who've been mutilated and
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butchered and are now speaking out, drugged and abused and are talking about it. We've heard from
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doctors who've been around this industry who have seen how it operates and are appropriately horrified
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by it. Many people in the orbit of this industry or who have fallen victim to it have taken a stand
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against it. But up until this point, the threats veiled in otherwise and the fear of social alienation
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has been enough to prevent any actual whistleblowers from inside the child mutilation industry from
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coming forward, at least publicly. You know, I personally have heard from medical professionals
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on the inside who are sickened by what they've seen, by what they themselves have done, and by what
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they themselves continue to do. But none of them have been willing to speak publicly and put their name
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on it. The potential, the certainty really, of their lives as they know them being torn apart is simply
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too much for them to bear. They don't have the courage to do the right thing and bear the cost
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of that decision. And so the child mutilation industry, the gender industry as a whole, has been
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able to remain, at least from a public-facing perspective, insular and closed off. It has not
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had any whistleblowers. Until now. Yesterday, a website called The Free Press published an article by a
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woman named Jamie Reed. And what you should know about Reed is that she spent four years as a case
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manager at the Washington University Transgender Center at St. Louis Children's Hospital. She also
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identifies herself as, quote, queer and says that she is married to a, quote, trans man. Point being,
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this is certainly not a conservative with any sort of political axe to grind. And she's been on the
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inside of this gender ideology world in just about every way possible, professionally and personally.
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And now she's had enough. She explains in the article, quote, I left the clinic in November of
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last year because I could no longer participate in what was happening there. By the time I departed,
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I was certain that the way the American medical system is treating these patients is the opposite of
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the promise we make to do no harm. Instead, we are permanently harming the vulnerable patients in our
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care. Today, I'm speaking out. I'm doing so knowing how toxic the public conversation is around this
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highly contentious issue and the ways that my testimony might be misused. I'm doing so knowing
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that I'm putting myself at serious personal and professional risk. Almost everyone in my life has
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advised me to keep my head down, but I cannot in good conscience do so because what is happening to
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scores of children is far more important than my comfort. And what is happening to them is morally and
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medically appalling. Now, from here, read documents in great detail what exactly went on in this clinic.
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What she reveals can leave no doubt that not only are these clinics harming children irrevocably
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and brutally, but that they know they are harming children and they do it anyway. I'm going to read some
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of the passages to you. I'll be doing a lot more reading than I would normally do in an opening monologue,
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but it's more important that you hear from Jamie Reed than from me today. So we'll go through this
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and kind of get as much of the whole story as we can. So she continues.
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Soon after my arrival at the Transgender Center, I was struck by the lack of formal protocols
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for treatment. The center's physician co-directors were essentially the sole authority.
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At first, the patient population was tipped toward what used to be the traditional instance of a child
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with gender dysphoria, a boy, often quite young, who wanted to be, wanted to present as, who wanted
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to be a girl. Until 2015 or so, a very small number of these boys comprised the population of pediatric
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gender dysphoria cases. Then, across the Western world, there began to be a dramatic increase in a
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new population. Teenage girls, many with no previous history of gender distress, suddenly declared they
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were transgender and demanded immediate treatment with testosterone. I certainly saw this at the center.
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One of my jobs was to do intake for new patients and their families. When I started, there were
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probably 10 such calls a month. When I left, there were 50. And about 70% of the new patients were
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girls. Sometimes clusters of girls arrived from the same high school. Now, next she explains how most of
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their female patients had comorbidities. Most of them were psychological comorbidities. So they'd been
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diagnosed with anxiety or depression or ADHD. Many of them were diagnosed with autism. And there have
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also been studies that are showing that this is very, very common, this correlation between kids
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who are diagnosed autistic. And the next thing you know, they're saying they have gender dysphoria.
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But lots of them declared, lots of them apparently declared that they had other disorders that were
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entirely in their heads. So she said that they would, that these girls, they would frequently claim to have
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things like Tourette's syndrome or multiple personality disorder. But it was all imaginary. They didn't have
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that. Reed says that the doctors at the clinic recognized that many of these disorders the girls had
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invented. And they were actually symptoms of social contagions. They'd been convinced by their friends and by the
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internet that they had Tourette's. So they had multiple personalities. But they didn't. And yet these
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same doctors, she says, were not willing to admit or even consider that gender dysphoria is also one of
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these social contagions. Just like all the other social contagion disorders that these girls had fallen
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prey to. Reed continues, to begin transitioning, the girls needed a letter of support from a therapist,
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usually one we recommended, but they had to see only once or twice for the green light. To make it more
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efficient for the therapist, we offered them a template for how to write a letter of support for
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transition. The next stop was a single visit to the endocrinologist for a testosterone prescription.
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And that's all it took. When a female takes testosterone, the profound and permanent effects
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of the hormone can be seen in a matter of months. Voices drop, beards sprout, body fat is redistributed,
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sexual interest explodes, aggression increases, and mood can be unpredictable. Our patients were told about
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some side effects, including sterility. But after working at the center, I came to believe that
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teenagers are simply not capable of fully grasping what it means to make the decision to become infertile
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while still minors. Well, of course they can't grasp that. As I've said many times, you know,
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it's obviously minors, obviously kids can't grasp the consequence of, you know, choosing to be infertile
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or choosing to be sterile. They're giving up the possibility of having kids at a time when
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they can't, they couldn't know what that means.
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And there are many people even in their early twenties, I was one of these people,
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my early, even in my early twenties, I couldn't really imagine what it would be like to have kids.
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You know, it wasn't something that I thought about. A few years later, I had kids.
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So as for what all this means, Reed explains, quote,
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many encounters with patients emphasized to me how little these young people understood
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the profound impacts changing gender would have on their bodies and minds. But the center downplayed
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the negative consequences and emphasized the need for transition. As the center's website said,
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quote, left untreated, gender dysphoria has any number of consequences from self-harm to suicide.
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But when you take away the gender dysphoria by allowing a child to be who he or she is,
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we're noticing that goes away. The studies we have, we have show these kids often wind up
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functioning psychosocially as well as, or better than their peers. But there are no reliable studies
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showing this, Reed writes. Indeed, the experiences of many of the center's patients prove how false
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these assertions are. Here's an example. On Friday, May 1st, 2020, a colleague emailed me about a 15 year
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old male patient. The email said, quote, oh dear, I'm concerned that the patient does not understand
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what bichlutamide, I think, does. It's the medicine. I responded, I don't think we start
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anything honestly right now. Bichlutamide is a medication used to treat metastatic prostate
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cancer. And one of its side effects is that it feminizes the bodies of men who take it,
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including the appearance of breasts. The center prescribed this cancer drug as a puberty blocker
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and feminizing agent for boys. As with most cancer drugs, this drug has a long list of side
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effects. And the patient experienced one of them, this patient did, which is liver toxicity. He was
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sent to another unit of the hospital for evaluation and immediately taken off the drug. Afterwards,
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his mother sent an electronic message to the transgender center saying that we were lucky her
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family was not the type to sue. Reed also documents a case of a 17 year old girl on testosterone who
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experienced bleeding from the vagina that became so heavy that she had to be rushed to the emergency
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room. It turns out that the girl, though transitioning to become a boy, was still having
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vaginal intercourse. But that activity combined with the testosterone led to severe vaginal
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lacerations. And Reed says that this girl was not the only case of this kind that she saw.
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Other girls were disturbed by the effects of testosterone on their clitoris, which enlarges and
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grows into what looks like a micro phallus or a tiny penis. I counseled one patient whose enlarged
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clitoris now extended below her vulva and it chafed and rubbed painfully in her jeans. I advised
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her to get the kind of compression undergarments worn by biological men who dress to pass as female.
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At the end of the call, I thought to myself, wow, we hurt this kid. There are rare conditions in babies
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with babies that are born with atypical genitalia, cases that call for sophisticated care and compassion.
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But clinics like the one where I worked are creating a whole cohort of kids with atypical
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genitals. And most of these kids haven't even had sex yet. They had no idea who they were going to
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be as adults, yet all it took for them to permanently transform themselves was one or two
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short conversations with a therapist. Reed says that sometimes the parents would only come to
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understand what they'd consented to on behalf of their children after the fact. So she shares one
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email from a distraught parent. And the email says, please be advised that I'm revoking my consent
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for this course of medical treatment. Grades have dropped. There's been an inpatient behavioral health
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visit. And now he's on five different medications, Lexapro, Trazodone, Buspar, etc. He's a shell of his
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former self riddled with anxiety. Who knows if it's because of the blockers or other medications. I
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revoke my consent. I want the hormone blocker removed. Thank you. Reed also reveals that the
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transgender clinic at St. Louis Children's Hospital would keep itself stocked with new patients through
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referrals from the psychiatric ward at the same hospital. So kids who are diagnosed with
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schizophrenia or, you know, bipolar disorder were funneled through the transgender clinic and then
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given diagnoses of gender dysphoria as well, and then put on these experimental transitional,
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you know, transition treatments. She mentions one especially disturbing case.
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Quote, for example, one teenager came to us in the summer of 2022 when he was 17 years old and
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living in a lockdown facility because he had been, he had been sexually abusing dogs. He'd had an awful
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childhood. His mother was a drug addict. His father was in prison. Then he grew up in foster care.
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Whatever treatment he may have been getting, it wasn't working. During our intake, I learned from
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another caseworker that when he got out, he planned to re-offend because he believed the dogs had
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willingly submitted. Somewhere along the line, he expressed a desire to become female. So he ended
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up being seen at our center. From there, he went to a psychologist at the hospital who was known to
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approve virtually everyone seeking transition. Then our doctor recommended feminizing hormones at the
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time. I wondered if this was being done as a form of chemical castration. Well, it's always a form of
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chemical castration. So the answer to that is yes. And then there's the issue of parental consent.
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Reed explains how the clinic would undermine or manipulate the parents because, you know, in
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theory, the parents have to consent to this, which obviously, even if they do consent to it,
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it doesn't remotely make any of this okay. But what you find out is that even parental consent
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many times is not really consent because they themselves are being manipulated. This was especially
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easy, as she explains, to do in cases where the parents disagreed about the transition. And the
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clinic, of course, would always side with whichever parents wanted to transition the child. And history
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would seem to indicate that the parent who wants to transition the child is like almost always the
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mother. So she recounts one case, quote, my concerns about this approach to dissenting parents grew in
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2019 when one of our doctors actually testified in a custody hearing against a father who opposed a
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mother's wish to start their 11-year-old daughter on puberty blockers. I had done the original intake call
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and I found the mother quite disturbing. She and the father were getting divorced and the mother
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described the daughter as kind of a tomboy. So now the mother was convinced her child was trans.
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But when I asked if her daughter had adopted a boy's name, if she was distressed about her body,
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if she was saying she felt like a boy, the mother said no. I explained the girl just didn't meet the
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criteria for an evaluation. Then a month later, the mother called back and said her daughter now
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used a boy's name and was in distress over her body and wanted to transition. This time,
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the mom and daughter were given an appointment, our providers decided the girl was trans and
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prescribed a puberty blocker to prevent her normal development. The father adamantly disagreed,
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said that this was all coming from the mother, and a custody battle ensued. After the hearing where
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our doctor testified in favor of transition, the judge sided with the mother. Of course he did.
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It's not at all hard to interpret what happened here. Obviously, the girl was an innocent,
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normal child, maybe a bit of a tomboy. And the mother decided that she wanted the girl to be
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trans. This is what she wanted, perhaps partially fueled by her resentment against the husband that
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she was divorcing. You see, this is very, very common. As I said, you've got two parents that
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disagree, and it's almost always the mother. I'm not going to say this has never happened, but I'm not
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aware of a single case where parents disagree on transition, and it's the father insisting on it,
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and the mother saying no. Again, maybe that happens. Every case I've ever heard, it's always
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the mom. And so the mother then learned, she called the clinic, and she learned what she needs to say
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to get drugs for her daughter, and then called the clinic back reading from that script. And now this
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abusive Munchausen mommy who is poisoning her daughter has custody of the child because the
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judge decided that the daughter is safest with the parent who wants to poison her. This is the world
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we live in. But it's a world that I believe can change, and that we can change, and we are changing.
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We can put a stop to this kind of child abuse. We can defeat the child mutilators completely and bring
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down the entire industry nationwide. I believe that. We are winning this fight. And now with
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whistleblowers finally coming forward, I have hope that some sort of dam is breaking. Because what
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they're doing to kids is so straightforwardly evil, so unthinkably brutal and deranged and barbaric,
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so thoroughly indefensible that it cannot be sustained. The edifice is weak and vulnerable,
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and we can tear it all down, and we will. I truly believe that. But the job isn't even close
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This is from CNN. The GOP-led House Select Subcommittee on so-called weaponization of the
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federal government. They added a little editorialization in there, of course, with the
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phrase so-called, you know, the so-called weaponization of the federal government. Well,
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it's not so-called. I mean, we call it that, yes, but that's because that's exactly what's
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happening with the federal government. Anyway, it's drawing upon a prominent ex-Democrat,
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two of their Republican Senate colleagues, and a former FBI agent in their first public hearing
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to discuss how they believe the government has been weaponized against conservatives.
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Multiple sources familiar with the plans tell CNN. And so this panel or this committee hearing,
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there's been a lot of committee hearings, a lot of news about committee hearings this week.
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And usually committee hearings are pretty boring, but there have been some interesting moments,
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including at this one. So this was, again, a committee hearing about the weaponization of
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the federal government. And there was one exchange that I thought was interesting. This is between
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Jonathan Turley and Democrat Representative Daniel Goldman. Goldman wanted to explain why,
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he wanted to make the case for why the federal government needs to suppress speech sometimes.
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And so he brought up the old, you know, the old, the old cliche about fire in a crowded theater.
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And here's how that exchange went. It's a, if it's a, does the first amendment protect someone
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from yelling fire in a movie theater? Well, unfortunately that one is not yes or no,
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because that's become a mantra for people. It's the Holmes, uh, Shank, uh, line Holmes himself
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walked back on it. All right. All right. We don't need a law class here. Um, so, but you do agree
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though, don't you, that the first amendment does not protect all speech?
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No, there are limits to speech. All constitutional rights have limits.
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That's, uh, that's great. That's got shades of the, uh, we asked the questions here that I got at
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the committee hearing I was testifying from, uh, it's, Oh, we don't need a law class. You asked him
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a legal question and he got, he got a, he got a good legal answer, but it wasn't the answer he likes.
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Whoa, we don't need a law class here. You nerd. We weren't asking for all that. Um, by the way,
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fire in a crowded theater. This was a, as Jonathan Turley was indicating, this is a, this is a phrase
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used by a Supreme court justice in a case like, uh, it was like a hundred years ago, which, and in
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that case, which, which found that anti-war activists don't have the right to protest. It actually
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found that, that, uh, you know, anti-war protests is not protected speech. Um, but that case was then
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partially overturned in 1969. So it's, it's essentially a legal rationale that was always
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absurd and has long since been made moot because as it turns out, you can yell fire in a crowded
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theater, right? Uh, you can do that. Um, now if you want to even like begin to try to penalize
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someone for yelling fire in a crowded theater, then there would have to be a bunch of conditions
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met. Like was, was, uh, first of all, was somebody harmed by the fact that someone directly yelled
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fire in a crowded theater and there was a, and there was a, a big, you know, mob, people running out
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and then someone was hurt. Did that happen? Like that would need to happen. First of all,
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um, you didn't need to prove that it was done maliciously. So even in the literal case of someone
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yelling fire in a crowded theater, there are a whole bunch of conditions, uh, that would need to
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be met before there's any chance of it, of it, of it, you know, of any kind of criminal charges or
00:23:25.460
misdemeanor charges being filed. But here's, here's the big thing. Here's why this, this analogy
00:23:31.060
doesn't work. Also, this, this is the main thing is that obviously everyone would agree
00:23:40.320
that you, there, there's certainly nothing wrong legally or morally with yelling fire in
00:23:46.980
a crowded theater. If there actually is a fire, right? So the, the first thing, if it can only
00:23:54.620
begin to be wrong to yell it, if there is no fire, and then we got to go through all the
00:23:58.440
other things, right? Like, what did you do? Did you, you yelled fire? Did you know that
00:24:02.200
there wasn't a fire? Were you doing it maliciously? Did it actually cause direct, you know, physical
00:24:06.300
harm? All those things. But if there is a fire, then not only can you yell fire in a crowded
00:24:14.040
theater, but you would be very wrong if you didn't. If you, if you saw the fire and no one
00:24:21.140
else notices it and you see it starting in the corner of the room and you just get up and pack your
00:24:24.640
stuff and walk out of the, um, of the theater and leave everyone to burn to death, well, then you
00:24:31.140
might have some liability in that case because you didn't say anything, or at least you should.
00:24:37.400
So when you bring this, when you bring this over into the realm of metaphor, because when they bring
00:24:42.300
up fire to crowded theater, we're not actually talking about people literally yelling fire to
00:24:45.500
crowded theater. They're, they're drawing an analogy. They're comparing it to something.
00:24:48.520
Um, yet you would need to, to prove that the metaphorical fire isn't there. So, you know,
00:24:56.340
here's, here's a, here's a time when they often use this, a personal example when they use it against
00:25:03.160
me or against people that are, uh, you know, anti, um, anti-child mutilation. When we, when we
00:25:09.700
describe what's what we just heard, you know, what we just heard from the whistleblower, what's
00:25:13.240
happening? Because when we describe that as child abuse or child mutilation, well, the other side,
00:25:19.780
they say, well, this is, you're yelling fire to crowded theater. You know, and if, if one of
00:25:23.620
these child mutilators, which they would, if one of these, uh, gender affirming doctors gets hurt,
00:25:28.360
well, then it's your fault. Well, yeah, that's because you're claiming that the fire isn't there,
00:25:35.980
but it, but it is. See, the fire is actually there in this case. We're calling them child mutilators,
00:25:41.740
but they are. And so very clearly we are allowed to point that out because it is actually happening.
00:25:53.260
So this is a case where, um, they want us to ignore the fire. They can't deny that the fire
00:26:01.260
is there because it is, but what they're telling us is that we have to keep our mouth shut and just
00:26:06.320
let everyone burn to death. Only in this case, it's not, you know, it's not the people in the theater
00:26:09.640
burning to death. It's, it's kids. We have to, we have to keep our mouth shut and let the, uh,
00:26:14.720
the children be incinerated so as not to yell fire. No, um, we could put all the complicated
00:26:22.780
legal discussions to the side and simply establish that if there is actually a fire, not only can you
00:26:29.460
yell it, but you damn well better. There was a, one other moment from the committee hearing that I
00:26:37.800
attended on Wednesday that I wanted to share with you. And this one isn't quite as explosive as the
00:26:42.100
one that doesn't involve me. This is, uh, but it was, it was, it was also interesting. It was keep
00:26:46.820
in mind, it was a right after they, they asked me questions first and then, uh, and then they,
00:26:50.860
you know, it weren't really questions, but they were just using as an opportunity to like try to,
00:26:56.100
uh, uh, assassinate my character and all that. And they were done with that, uh, because they were tired
00:27:02.200
of me answering them and they couldn't trap me. And then they brought a, a, an actual doctor up,
00:27:06.980
uh, and started questioning him. And this is a doctor who is, who is anti-child mutilation. He's
00:27:12.440
on the right, he's on the pro sanity side of it. And they tried the same credentialism thing on him.
00:27:19.060
In fact, the exact same guy, the exact same legislator tried it on him. The same thing that
00:27:23.640
he did to me, but listen to how this went. What was your, are you, are you a pediatric? What was
00:27:30.680
your specialty? Dr. Hamada. I am board certified in obst, uh, I can't even talk. Obstetrics and
00:27:37.080
gynecology as well as family medicine with a focus on sports medicine as well.
00:27:41.620
Resident Clements. No endocrinology or pediatrics?
00:27:45.600
That's, well, pediatrics is part of family medicine, family medicine. And then also, uh,
00:27:51.200
with regards to endocrinology, that's a big portion of what we do in obstetrics and gynecology.
00:27:55.960
And what's your formal training in that? Um, four years of medical school.
00:28:00.420
And residency with, uh, oral and written boards and continued maintenance of certification.
00:28:06.560
You're recognized. Do you do any residency in endocrinology?
00:28:12.840
Thank you. Uh, by the way, that doctor's Omar Hamada. He gave me his card. Uh, and
00:28:17.600
I'll let you know, cause this is this, that's, this is one of the good ones. This is one of the good
00:28:22.000
guys in the medical field, but it's just, it's great because it's the same, again, the same guy
00:28:28.220
that tried that with, with me. Now he brings a doctor up and what he's trying to do, he's doing
00:28:32.900
the credentialism thing. And he's, he's trying to prove that Dr. Hamada's views don't count because
00:28:39.240
he doesn't have the, he doesn't check the right credential boxes, but every, but, but every box he
00:28:45.080
presents, Dr. Hamada does check it. So he has to keep getting more and more specific. Well, you don't
00:28:49.860
do pediatrics, do you? Well, actually that's part of family medicine. But what about, what's your
00:28:54.260
experience in endocrinology? Oh yeah. Well, we work with that all the time. Uh, but, uh, but did
00:28:59.060
you do a residency in, in endocrinology? Well, no, I didn't do that. Thank you. No more questions.
00:29:04.140
Keep getting more and more specific because no matter what he brought up, it's he, it checked
00:29:10.040
the box. And then you notice at the end of that, there was no follow-up question. It wasn't leading
00:29:14.140
anywhere. It's like, let me just find the one slight you've been, you've been working in,
00:29:21.100
in medicine. You've been working in the field for years and years and years. You are definitely an
00:29:25.780
expert in this subject, but let me find the one little gap, the one supposed gap that I can find.
00:29:32.980
And, uh, and I'll call attention to that. And that'll be the end of it because as it turns out,
00:29:39.840
um, they do the credentialism thing, but it doesn't actually matter, obviously,
00:29:47.360
because I can get up there and I didn't even go to college. And so they can say, well,
00:29:53.940
it doesn't get your opinion. It doesn't count. You didn't even go to college. And then a guy who's
00:29:58.220
been in the medical field for decades, he get up there and he's got all kinds of relevant
00:30:02.000
experience, but he doesn't matter. It doesn't count for him either because whether you have the
00:30:07.900
credentials or not, the only credential that actually matters to these people is whether you
00:30:13.860
agree with them. That is the only thing they care about, which is also why you notice they never do
00:30:20.820
the credentialism thing with someone on their side. There were other people at the hearing who spoke up
00:30:27.460
in favor of child mutilation and were not doctors. Okay. And yet for some reason they weren't called up
00:30:34.640
and asked about their credentials. Nobody called them up and said, well, what are you, what's your
00:30:39.320
expertise? Because as long as you agree with the party line, that is the one single credential that
00:30:47.940
matters. That's it. Another quick update on that, by the way, Representative Caleb Hemmer,
00:30:54.600
who we talked about yesterday, he was the guy that tried the media matters hit piece on me. And then,
00:30:58.220
and then I asked him one simple question and he, you know, he recoiled in horror and fell silent
00:31:05.400
and totally humiliated himself. And, you know, yesterday on the show, we played the clip and
00:31:10.580
I did encourage the sweet baby gang to provide feedback to this elected official because I
00:31:18.760
assumed, and this is the truth. I just honestly assumed that he's an elected official and he would
00:31:25.220
really want to hear feedback from his constituents and even people who aren't his constituents, just from
00:31:31.000
just from Americans and taxpayers. I figured he'd really want to hear that. I was really trying to
00:31:35.520
do him a favor, but it turns out that he didn't want to hear anyone's feedback because as of this
00:31:41.700
morning, Representative Caleb Hemmer had removed all the contact information from his website. He took
00:31:49.300
it all down. I'm not sure if that's even legal. You know, we would need to get a, I don't have the
00:31:56.700
credentials as a lawyer. We need to get a lawyer in here. But as a, as a elected representative,
00:32:00.920
can you just take down your contact information? Can you remove it so that your constituents can't
00:32:06.060
contact you? Obviously this went a certain way. It's not how Caleb Hemmer had planned.
00:32:13.160
You know, he thought, here's what he planned. Here's what he thought. I don't, I don't think he
00:32:16.500
thought this through all the way, but what he was planning was that I would get up there and he would
00:32:21.780
have his hit piece and he'd present it to me. And then I guess he assumed that I would say,
00:32:27.620
oh, you're right. I, uh, well, you know what? I'm really sorry about all. I'm very, I'm just very
00:32:32.640
sorry. And I, um, and, uh, and I, I, I will back away now and I will, I guess that's what he expected.
00:32:41.480
He expected me to apologize and bow my head solemnly and then walk away. And then he would have that
00:32:47.540
moment and he could brag about it. He could post it and be beautiful. Didn't go that way. Instead,
00:32:51.860
he humiliated himself. Um, and then he had a whole bunch of people trying to contact him to give
00:32:57.400
feedback that was probably quite negative. And then I went on Tucker Carlson last night and Tucker
00:33:02.960
played that clip and had some, uh, very critical things to say about representative Caleb Hemmer by
00:33:07.560
name. And so now his whole world is like falling down on top of him. Not how he thought it would go.
00:33:14.380
But here's the thing. If you try to defame me, uh, if you try to use lazy hit pieces on me,
00:33:21.020
if you try to lay a trap for me and you do it all in an effort to protect child butchers,
00:33:26.760
then this is going to be the response. Okay. You're going to, you're, you're,
00:33:33.060
it's going to be a consequence for that. So go ahead and take your shot, give your best effort.
00:33:39.300
Um, and then it's going to be my turn. And so you're learning that Caleb.
00:33:45.460
I don't think you quite understand like what time it is here and what kind of conservatives
00:33:52.020
and what version of the right you're dealing with. Um, this is, and I, and I know maybe you,
00:33:57.580
you know, you're, you're used to the version of the right, the old right, where you kind of go along
00:34:02.820
and you controlled opposition and you play your part. And that's not the case here. Um,
00:34:08.340
we don't go along with the game and bow down dismissively. Like we're, we're playing for keeps.
00:34:14.760
So get your head in the game next time, buddy. Speaking of trans issues, uh, here, here's someone
00:34:21.300
trying to work out how to feel about being misgendered. I thought this was kind of interesting.
00:34:26.520
So I was just picking up my vehicle from an oil change and the person came out of the garage and
00:34:31.480
said, what can I do for you young lady? And I know that this was intended to be a greeting of respect
00:34:36.900
and kindness or politeness maybe, but I had this immediate, like, okay, young, maybe comparatively
00:34:42.840
I'll take it. But I was like, lady, what do I do with that? Like, it's so complicated because I know
00:34:48.460
this person only intended kindness. There was a smile on their face. Like I know that they weren't
00:34:53.400
trying to like patronize me or gender me, but I felt so gendered and so inappropriately
00:34:59.160
gendered. And I don't know what to do with that. Like, what do you do with that? When someone like
00:35:03.220
has the best of intentions and I don't really want to spend all of my spoons trying to educate
00:35:07.820
someone at the Costco car center? What do you do with that? Uh, what you do with that is you
00:35:14.960
live your life. Um, you move on and you live your life and you leave Costco and, uh, and that's
00:35:24.880
it. That's what you do with that. These people, they, they are, they are, uh, they fall into
00:35:34.580
this state of like paralysis after just normal, polite interactions. They feel like they have
00:35:42.880
to analyze all of that. And, and every, every interaction that they have, every interaction
00:35:49.040
they have with anyone is loaded. Every interaction, it's a loaded interaction and, uh, nothing can
00:35:56.560
just, there's no such thing in this, in the world of this kind of person, there's no such
00:36:01.080
thing as just a polite, normal interaction. You and I as normal, sane people, we have those,
00:36:05.740
that's, that's mostly interactions we have in life or just with like people, acquaintances,
00:36:09.640
you pass the industry, you say, you know, you say hello to someone and that's it. That's
00:36:13.120
most of the people you meet. It's that's easy. There's no reason to even think about
00:36:16.080
it. That doesn't exist for these people that are, um, you know, but that's also the consequence
00:36:23.460
of believing that you are the center of the universe and everything that happens is extremely
00:36:29.620
significant. And everyone who talks to you has to talk to you a certain way and approach
00:36:34.360
you a certain way. And if they don't, then it's this traumatic moment in your life.
00:36:38.120
This is the consequence. All right. One other thing I wanted to mention, uh, a very odd and,
00:36:45.900
uh, I think troubling story. And I don't know, I can't make heads or tails, but I don't know
00:36:50.200
exactly what to make of it, but this is from Newsweek. James O'Keefe, the founder of the
00:36:54.540
controversial right-wing video organization Project Veritas has taken paid leave from the
00:36:59.240
company with his future currently in doubt. According to an internal message to Project
00:37:02.940
Veritas employees sent by the organization's executive director, Daniel Strack, uh, seen
00:37:07.960
by the New York Magazine's intelligence or website. O'Keefe is taking a few weeks off of well-deserved
00:37:12.500
paid time off. The message did not expand upon while the founder of, uh, of the undercover
00:37:17.880
artist group is on leave from the company. And a further statement, Strack said, like all
00:37:23.000
newsrooms at this stage, the Project Veritas board of directors and management are constantly
00:37:26.260
evaluating what the best, best path forward is for the organization. Um, now it was initially
00:37:32.320
this is what they said. They said, well, she's taking leave. We don't know exactly what's going
00:37:34.860
on. And then, uh, a leaked memo came out, which reveals that Project Veritas employees have raised
00:37:43.460
concerns about his behavior to the board. The memo obtained by the Daily Beast alleged that
00:37:48.140
workers were troubled and frustrated by O'Keefe's management style, that he was outright cruel to
00:37:52.840
staff members. Project Veritas employees said that O'Keefe engages in berating and public
00:37:57.620
crucifixions of staff members. Um, O'Keefe is also alleged to have forced workers to take lie
00:38:03.160
detector tests to prove they weren't leaking information about the company. Um, spat at them
00:38:08.780
allegedly. Anyway, then it goes on. I read the whole letter. It's, it's, it's really bizarre to be
00:38:14.980
honest with you because there's really, there's nothing, there's nothing terribly salacious or
00:38:20.320
extraordinary. Um, there's even, uh, someone mentions in the, in the letter, there's a thing about how
00:38:26.020
he took a pregnant woman's sandwich. Allegedly that's mentioned to just a bunch of weird and
00:38:33.560
mostly kind of petty complaints and all amounting to an accusation that James O'Keefe is a jerk
00:38:39.500
basically. And, um, that those are, that's what the accusations come down to and enough to
00:38:47.080
try to expel him from his own organization. I do think the time is extremely suspicious
00:38:53.720
because O'Keefe just had a, this major bombshell exposing Pfizer, one of the most significant
00:39:00.260
scoops in recent memory. And then, and then that's when they try to take them out. So that means that
00:39:06.660
either this is being coordinated by Pfizer somehow, or it's being coordinated, coordinated by people who
00:39:13.360
are too dumb to at least hold off for a bit. So it doesn't look like it's being coordinated by
00:39:18.380
Pfizer. Either the timing is directly connected or it's not. And if it's not, then why would you do
00:39:27.020
it at a time when it's going to appear to be connected? But like I said, I don't know exactly
00:39:32.160
what's going on. I also don't know. I don't know, uh, which of O'Keefe's alleged rude behaviors are,
00:39:37.740
are true if any, but I will say this. Um, what he's being accused of is at worst being a jerk,
00:39:45.060
right? That's what he's being accused of. And I'm not saying I believe it. I don't, I don't know
00:39:49.500
James O'Keefe. I met him a couple of times. We've texted back and forth a few times. Seems like a nice
00:39:53.460
guy to me. I've never heard anything to the contrary, but my point is I'm actually perfectly
00:40:01.020
willing to believe that he could be a jerk sometimes. And not because I get that vibe from
00:40:07.000
him. Um, no, that's not the point, but because he's doing great things and, uh, he's a high
00:40:16.160
achiever and high achievers who do great things historically, you know, can be jerks sometimes
00:40:22.400
in certain situations like great men, the people who get things done, uh, visionaries, which James
00:40:30.000
O'Keefe is, I believe it's these people have quirks. Sometimes they can often be, they can make me
00:40:35.200
difficult to get along with on a personal level. There's nothing unprecedented about that. Again,
00:40:39.780
I don't know if that's the case with James. I have no idea, but it could be simply because
00:40:44.680
he's one of the, uh, get stuff done kind of guys. And if that is true, so what? That's the price of
00:40:51.420
having a, a person like that leading your organization. And it's the only reason why your organization
00:40:58.340
exists or has achieved all the great things that it has. It's a price well worth paying.
00:41:05.200
Um, like you're not going to get a great person who does great things and is a visionary and achieves
00:41:11.600
high achiever and who also gets along with everyone all the time and everything is perfect.
00:41:17.100
And he has no weird quirks about his behavior and he never, you know, uh, has a bad temper.
00:41:21.700
Like that doesn't exist. You're not going to find that. So you could find someone who's a little bit
00:41:26.600
more gentle in their behavior and a little bit easier to get along with, but they're not going to
00:41:31.180
have that greatness, high achiever fact factor to them. So I support James O'Keefe a hundred percent.
00:41:37.960
That's all that to say, all that boils down to, I support him a hundred percent. Um, and, uh, I,
00:41:43.140
you can't have project Veritas without him. He is project Veritas. And so I really hope that
00:41:48.120
whatever's going on, they can, they can work it out. Let's get to the comment section.
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00:43:01.780
Jerry S. says, Matt covertly sending the SBG after Caleb Hemmer is just too good.
00:43:07.380
Was it covert? Was it, was it actually covert? I think it was sort of overt.
00:43:11.560
Uh, but sending after, you know, that, that's not the way that I would phrase it. Again,
00:43:15.800
just people, if there were any concerned citizens that had feedback or questions,
00:43:20.260
I was simply providing them the opportunity to deliver that feedback and answer those questions.
00:43:26.160
I had no idea that Caleb Hemmer would, um, would, would not be welcoming to that. I, I had no idea.
00:43:34.220
I thought that he would want that. Really. Uh, Ray Parker says,
00:43:40.160
I just called Hemmer's office and they hung up on me after I asked the question. So brave.
00:43:45.480
And the question, by the way, you know, so there's a new question now.
00:43:48.700
You know, what is a woman? That's a great question to ask. That's still, that's still a question.
00:43:52.520
Still the question in a lot of ways. But I think there's a new, there's a new the question,
00:43:57.300
especially when it comes particularly to this issue of, uh, of how it affects kids.
00:44:00.560
Can a 16 year old girl meaningfully consent to having her body parts removed?
00:44:06.160
And that, that is the question, right? And anytime you get an, if you ever get an opportunity
00:44:10.160
in front of a Democrat lawmaker, or even anybody on the left who's supporting this,
00:44:14.140
ask them that question. And I would phrase it exactly like that. Can a 16 year old girl
00:44:18.260
meaningfully consent to having her body parts removed? Can she? Because I will submit to you
00:44:23.960
that nobody on that side, especially anyone with any kind of prominence,
00:44:27.680
and especially if they're on camera or being, if it's being documented, they cannot answer it.
00:44:31.820
They know they can't. So that should be the question that we ask. Um, Ryder says,
00:44:38.860
I started taking steroids at 22 after learning about the potential sterility that can occur
00:44:42.360
from using them. My 22 year old brain decided it wasn't a big deal because I was sure that I
00:44:46.260
would never want kids. Four years later, I became Catholic, stopped taking steroids and started
00:44:49.420
taking recovery drugs like HCG in a desperate attempt to undo the potential damage I'd done to myself
00:44:54.240
from years of testosterone injections. My view of wanting children did a complete
00:44:57.660
180. Thanks be to God. My wife is currently pregnant with our first, hopefully of many,
00:45:02.540
I can only imagine how painful it will be for these kids in 10 years when they snap out of the
00:45:06.280
delusion and realize that it really is too late for them and the damage is done. Well, congratulations
00:45:10.660
to you. And I'm glad that you were able to reverse the damages that were done. And the fact that you,
00:45:15.440
yeah, look, I didn't take steroids when I was 22, but, um, it's the kind of thing like it,
00:45:22.560
if I, if I had gotten really, really into sort of gym culture and the gym bro thing at the age of
00:45:28.220
F22, I may have done that as a 22 year old. Like you're only, you're 22. You do it. It's yeah,
00:45:34.580
you're an adult, but you do a lot of really stupid and impulsive things and you're not thinking about
00:45:39.860
the future. And especially if you're a man at 22 and you're not in a serious relationship,
00:45:44.240
then you're, you're probably not thinking much about having kids and you, and just like I,
00:45:49.180
when I was 22, I couldn't even imagine, I can remember being 22 and thinking about
00:45:55.320
the possibility of having kids sometime in the future. And I just, I couldn't wrap my head
00:46:00.520
around it. Like what? I have a kid myself as a dad. That's like, it's absurd. Um,
00:46:07.380
and so if there was some, I can't even imagine what, I don't know what it would be in an analogy,
00:46:12.240
but if there was some thing that I really wanted, uh, and the deal was someone said to me,
00:46:18.260
well, you can have this thing, but, uh, then the deal is like this, with this genie that I'm talking
00:46:23.180
to that you have to give up the ability to have kids in the future at 22, I probably would have
00:46:28.740
said, Oh yeah, I'll take that deal at 16. I definitely would have taken it. And then by 25,
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I had kids. So things change radically and drastically as you get older. Um,
00:46:44.220
that's just the reality. Go chasing waterfall says, I love your approach, Matt. I've been,
00:46:50.560
uh, taking, uh, I've taken to using your method of asking a very simple question,
00:46:54.400
have left us explain their abhorrent views and never are they able to do anything other than back
00:46:58.920
away like cowards or pivot to something totally unrelated. Uh, yeah, well, the questioning sort of
00:47:04.880
approach is, uh, I certainly didn't, I wouldn't call it my approach. Like I, I didn't invent this.
00:47:09.440
I didn't invent the idea of asking your opposition questions to getting that, trying to get them to
00:47:12.980
clarify their own position. But it is, I think far and away, uh, the most effective method,
00:47:20.020
especially these days dealing with the modern left where they, they, they truly can't define
00:47:24.960
any of the words that they use that that's the truth. Um, everything is malleable. Everything
00:47:30.740
has to be because this is, this is the consequence of, of being a relativist. And so when you demand
00:47:39.660
that they, when you take kind of the, what is approach, what is that? What is that? Use this
00:47:45.920
word. What does that mean? They'll try to treat it like semantics. They'll treat it like it doesn't
00:47:50.360
matter. But of, but of course that's absurd. The meaning of the words that you're using to convey
00:47:56.360
your position that can't be semantics. Like I can't, we can't have a conversation until I understand
00:48:02.620
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00:48:09.660
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A few weeks ago, vice held a panel discussion with young Asian Americans. Um, and here's how
00:49:33.280
they describe the point and theme of the conversation. What does it mean to be Asian in
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America from hate crimes to the model minority myth to affirmative action, a politically divisive
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panel hashes out the most controversial issues facing the AAPI community today. Now this is the kind
00:49:50.020
discussion, especially when hosted by an outlet like vice that is nearly certain to be excruciatingly
00:49:54.240
boring and annoying. It's already guaranteed that the panel will be stacked with leftists and leftists
00:49:59.120
are ideologically required to never say anything remotely interesting, especially when the subject
00:50:04.800
has anything to do with race or ethnicity. But fortunately for the viewers, there was at least
00:50:09.540
one young man who managed to make it onto the panel despite having a mind of his own. A Twitter
00:50:15.200
user named Kalem posted a couple of videos featuring this man. Vince is his name and his contributions
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to the conversation are quite interesting. The clips are revealing and instructive and also kind
00:50:25.300
of hilarious, not because of what Vince says. I mean, what he says is, is, is good and is correct.
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Uh, but there's, there's nothing hilarious about saying something that's true. What makes it funny
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is because of how the other people on the panel react to him saying those things. So watch this.
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Assimilation. Is it a good thing? Is it a bad thing? Is it a burden? Is it an opportunity?
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I think assimilation is not just a great thing. It's a necessary thing. Huh? No society can hold
00:50:51.820
together where people have nothing in common. They don't speak the same language. They don't practice
00:50:55.340
the same things. And, you know, you may look at something like just food habits or what you eat and
00:51:00.040
think that's fairly frivolous. But the truth of the matter is that on a broader level, when we're talking
00:51:04.300
about more big picture things, differences in race, culture, religion, all these things, people have
00:51:09.300
fought wars, violent wars, killed each other over these things for thousands of years. If America is
00:51:14.380
to hold together, assimilation, not just good or bad, necessary. I don't think it's going to be
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possible for America to survive as a stable functioning society if people don't to some degree say, well,
00:51:25.940
here's what we're going to commonly agree upon. But who gets to choose it? The majority culture, I suppose.
00:51:30.820
And what's the majority culture? The people with power. And who's people with power? Who's people with
00:51:34.200
power? White people? Well, I don't, I don't know if that's... I'm going to say it! White people! It's okay!
00:51:40.480
I don't know if that's necessarily so true. I mean... Wait, can you unpack? Yeah.
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I don't... Let's elaborate. I don't think a particularly white, quote-unquote,
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interest controls things like... In America. ...pop culture.
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Do you believe white supremacy exists? I think there are people who believe in it. I think
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there's people who all believe that their race is superior. So you don't believe in white supremacy?
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Do you believe America is a white supremacist state? No. Not at all. And not found... No white
00:52:04.600
supremacist state would even, like, allow us to be doing this. Like, I don't understand. It's a
00:52:09.280
white supremacist. There's just KKK people walking. Actually, I go around New York City. I notice that,
00:52:14.240
like, I guess Brooklyn a little bit different. Most of the people here are not white, and they're
00:52:17.560
doing their thing. So I don't... What does doing their thing mean to you? Going to work.
00:52:21.520
Are they making the same amount of money? I gotta say, I like this Vince guy. I mean,
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I like it for all the reasons that everyone else on the panel is shocked and horrified by him.
00:52:30.000
First of all, his point about assimilation is obviously correct. A nation must be bound together,
00:52:34.600
united by more than just the simple fact that all of its people exist inside the same geographical
00:52:39.460
boundary. And that's even more the case today when the geographical boundary is so porous,
00:52:44.700
and apparently, according to this administration, negotiable. So we have to have something else
00:52:49.540
holding us together. To be a people, not just people, but to be a people, we must have a shared
00:52:55.900
culture, shared values, shared traditions, a shared language. Without those things,
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you end up with fracturing and division, and that leads to violence, and that leads to chaos and
00:53:04.660
dysfunction, all of which we're experiencing today. Of course, everyone else in the room is
00:53:10.520
offended by this notion, mostly because they're conditioned to be offended by it. These are
00:53:14.860
automatons operating based on their programming. That's also why the obnoxious girl in the front row
00:53:19.740
has purple hair. You know, she can't help but become a parody of herself. It's like, why do these
00:53:25.260
obnoxious liberal women, why even do the purple hair anymore? You are willingly making yourself
00:53:33.580
into a stereotype, into one of the most mocked stereotypes in existence right now. You are saying,
00:53:40.980
I'm going to be that person. But it's all programming. And she is aghast that Vince would
00:53:48.120
suggest assimilating with the majority culture because she claims the majority culture is white.
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And she sees white as automatically bad, and she holds this view even while telling herself that she
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is not the racist one. She, along with her leftist cohorts, are also scandalized that Vince will not
00:54:05.720
label America a white supremacist state. But as he points out, if America was run by violent white
00:54:10.560
supremacists who control everything, the first thing they'd probably do is stop you from pointing
00:54:16.680
this out. Okay? Like, this is a pretty good indication. If you want to know, do I live in a
00:54:24.100
white supremacist violent state? Well, can you stand anywhere? Can you go anywhere and just say,
00:54:30.120
this is a violent white supremacist state, and nothing happens to you? Oh, no, no, sorry. It's not
00:54:35.600
nothing happens to you. You can go anywhere and say that, and you'll be applauded. Well, if that's the
00:54:39.980
case, then you don't live in a white supremacist state. Because non-white people can say and do
00:54:45.960
whatever they want, and they can condemn white people all they want without any repercussions
00:54:50.540
whatsoever, unless, as repercussions, you count, again, applause. It's not exactly what you'd expect
00:54:56.440
a white supremacist dystopia to operate. That's not how you expect it to operate. Like, if you didn't
00:55:01.720
know anything about this country, if you're crawling out of a cave, and someone told you,
00:55:06.760
oh, you know, I got some bad news for you. You know, you crawled out of a cave into a white
00:55:12.380
supremacist state. You, you, just so you know, you live in a, in a systemically racist white
00:55:19.040
supremacist state. When you hear that, and you don't know anything, you, immediately your mind
00:55:24.700
is going to conjure all kinds of images, and you're going to make all kinds of assumptions
00:55:28.980
about what sort of country this is. And then you're going to get out into the world, and you're
00:55:32.900
going to find that, wow, it's not anything like that at all. In fact, wow, there's like, there's,
00:55:38.280
there's non-white people all over the place running around talking about how much they hate
00:55:42.060
white people. And then there are other groups of people, there are white people following behind
00:55:46.200
them applauding. Well, that's not the kind of white supremacist state I was expecting.
00:55:51.700
But I do have to admit, the guy at the end was on to something. He asked whether non-whites make
00:55:55.980
the same amount of money as whites. And the answer is no, they don't. That's true.
00:55:59.500
Because most of the people in that room, in fact, belong to ethnicities that make
00:56:04.200
more, more money than white people on average. Many Asian immigrants come to this country and
00:56:09.760
quickly find themselves in a higher income bracket than the average white family. The median household
00:56:14.920
income for Asians in general is $100,000. For white households, it's $77,000. This remains perhaps
00:56:21.660
the most inconvenient truth of all inconvenient truths for the race hustlers. Because if America
00:56:26.640
is a systemically racist country, systemically racist against non-whites, how could it possibly
00:56:32.360
be the case that many non-white communities fare better than whites? In fact, Vince, always on the
00:56:39.700
ball, makes this very point later in the discussion. Listen.
00:56:43.640
Statistically, it is true that Asians, right, on average, make more money, like in terms of medium,
00:56:49.900
make more money, better test scores, getting into better colleges, all that stuff. I think the
00:56:53.220
question is, why is that? And I don't know if model minority, whatever that label wants to mean.
00:56:57.760
That's actually a myth because we cannot be... Well, no, listen. Well, let me finish my point.
00:57:02.340
We need to observe what makes people successful and unsuccessful. And I think when you look at
00:57:07.240
trends that are generally true in the Asian community, not of everyone, but are generally true,
00:57:11.220
usually you have families that are sticking together. You have, you know, people are taught to
00:57:17.880
work hard in school, not get into trouble. I think that translates to why Asians on mass are successful.
00:57:23.140
And I don't think you have to be Asian or white for that matter to not have kids out of wedlock,
00:57:27.720
not, you know, commit crime, not cause trouble, whatever it is. What is happening?
00:57:31.320
It's just a matter of like, well, common sense, that's what makes people successful. And if that's
00:57:36.380
so-called assimilation, having a nuclear family, buying a house, going to school, whatever it is,
00:57:40.960
then yeah, okay, call me a pro-assimilation then. I think there's a difference between
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Now, needless to say, Vince is once again, completely and irrefutably right. Asian Americans
00:57:53.500
do very well in this country. They also tend to have intact families. This is not a coincidence.
00:57:56.980
In fact, if you look at a ranking of median household income by race, and then you look at
00:58:01.920
a ranking of divorce rate by race and out of wedlock birth by race, the lists are identical, okay?
00:58:08.240
The groups that are less likely to get divorced, less likely to have out of wedlock births are also
00:58:14.360
less likely to be poor. As the rates of broken homes increase, the rates of poverty increase between
00:58:20.920
whites, blacks, Hispanics, and Asians. The black community is the poorest. It's also the community
00:58:26.620
with the most out of wedlock births and broken homes. The statistics here, again, are irrefutable.
00:58:31.260
The only crime that Vince committed was noticing it. And as we've seen time and time again,
00:58:35.720
one of the great moral crimes in our culture today, one of the only moral crimes is the crime of
00:58:41.260
noticing. Like, we all know that black people as a group generally fare the worst by every societal
00:58:47.440
measure, pretty much. We also know that as a group, they have the highest rates of single-parent
00:58:51.540
households and kids raised without stable and reliable parental guidance. We all know all of
00:58:56.220
that, but these are facts we're supposed to keep on the peripheral. You're not allowed to turn your head
00:59:00.000
slightly to the side and look directly at them. And if you do look at them, you certainly are not
00:59:05.760
permitted to draw any connections or form any conclusions. And if you do look at the facts and
00:59:10.700
you form conclusions, they certainly better not be conclusions that would, even to the slightest
00:59:14.760
extent, put the onus on the black community to improve its own situation. Okay, you better not be
00:59:20.280
implying or suggesting or, God forbid, outright saying that the black community can do certain things
00:59:25.960
itself to improve its own position. Like, for example, have kids, get married before you have kids
00:59:31.400
and then stay married. Like, you're not allowed to ever say that, though I just did. That's the
00:59:36.740
greatest heresy of all. Of course, the other people in the room reacted as you would expect,
00:59:41.560
those in a religious cult to react to heresy. If you're only listening to the audio, you're not
00:59:46.020
going to be able to fully appreciate the scene, because as Vince calmly explains the benefits of
00:59:50.280
having intact families and discipline and, you know, and encouraging education, the other
00:59:54.860
panelists, they were left slack-jawed. You know, they stared in horror, their mouths agape. They
01:00:01.680
shook their heads. They could not believe what they were hearing. They were in close proximity
01:00:06.140
with common sense, perhaps for the first time in their lives, and they found that the experience
01:00:10.780
was terrifying. That, to me, as always, is the most disturbing thing. Yes, obviously, Vince is right
01:00:17.080
about everything he said. Obviously, the other panelists are wrong, but it's not just that they're
01:00:21.300
wrong, okay? You can be wrong about stuff. It's just that they, and it's not just that they don't
01:00:26.040
agree with Vince's common sense, data-backed analysis of the situation. It's really that they,
01:00:31.280
it's that they were shocked by the analysis. Okay, it's one thing to be wrong, to misinterpret it,
01:00:36.440
to misread it, but you're shocked by it. It's that they apparently had never heard anything like it
01:00:42.560
before. It's one thing to disagree with an obvious truth. It's another to be stunned by it,
01:00:49.540
and that speaks to the suffocating, stifling bubble that these people have been living in. They clearly
01:00:54.960
believe what they believe merely because it's the only belief that was ever presented to them,
01:01:00.380
and they lack the intellectual curiosity to survey the other options. They have nearly totally
01:01:05.500
insulated themselves from everything that might challenge their worldview. So when it does happen,
01:01:10.260
and they finally and by accident encounter such a challenge, they practically faint like damsels in
01:01:16.560
distress. And that's what we saw there. And it's why Vince is not canceled today. In fact, I just found
01:01:23.620
out as I was preparing the segment that Vince has his own YouTube channel, which you can find if you
01:01:27.860
search Vince Dow D-A-O on YouTube, and you should look him up. He's obviously a brilliant guy. The same
01:01:33.720
cannot be said for the others in the room, and that is why they are today canceled. That'll do it for
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