The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1127 - Daily Wire Employee Quits Because Of My ‘Divisive’ Rhetoric

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, a reporter for The Daily Wire quits the company and publicly accuses some of our personalities, me and Michael Knowles, of being too divisive and mean when it comes to the gender issue.

00:00:10.160 Also, Chuck Schumer calls for Fox News to stop Tucker Carlson from releasing more January 6 footage.

00:00:15.680 Apparently it's a threat to our democracy if we're given more information about what happened on January 6.

00:00:20.640 El Salvador's harsh treatment of violent cartel members comes under scrutiny from squeamish Americans.

00:00:25.140 The Homeland Security Secretary refuses to admit that there's a crisis on our border.

00:00:29.420 It's just a challenge, he says.

00:00:31.300 And a Washington Post journalist complains that monitoring J.K. Rowling for evidence of transphobia is exhausting work.

00:00:38.520 She is exhausted.

00:00:39.440 All of that and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.

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00:01:40.540 Yesterday, I learned that one of my colleagues, The Daily Wire, had decided to leave the company.

00:01:45.340 And this is not exactly breaking news. People come and go all the time, as is the case at any large and growing company.

00:01:51.540 What made this unique is that I learned about her resignation from a blog post, which was then picked up by outlets like Mediaite and The Daily Dot and amplified, of course, by employees at Media Matters, where she, in part, blames me for her decision to quit the company.

00:02:08.120 Christina Buttons was her name. She was a reporter hired just a few months ago to cover issues related to gender ideology, and especially the abuse of children that happens in the name of gender ideology. 0.66

00:02:17.980 I appreciated the work that she did when she worked for The Daily Wire and never had any issues with her, as far as I was aware anyway.

00:02:23.640 And then she tweeted this on Tuesday morning.

00:02:27.300 I'm leaving The Daily Wire. I worked hard getting the facts right and using precise language because of the heated nature of the gender debate, with so much at stake, while their pundits dump gasoline all over it for entertainment and clicks.

00:02:39.320 Now, accompanying the tweet is a link to a blog post with a picture of herself, along with me and Michael Knowles, off to the side there.

00:02:46.040 Now, in the post, she explains that our inflammatory and divisive rhetoric has driven her away.

00:02:53.680 She writes, in part, quote,

00:02:54.600 When the documentary What is a Woman was released in 2022, I thought it was a brilliant commentary on the state of our culture.

00:03:01.340 Matt Walsh didn't insult his interviewees, but instead let them embarrass themselves with deeply incoherent attempts to answer a question any first grader should be able to answer.

00:03:08.800 Even my liberal parents loved the movie, so when The Daily Wire approached me with the opportunity to write exclusively on transgender issues with an emphasis on pediatric gender medicine, I accepted.

00:03:18.180 But recent videos and posts have weakened my confidence in their commitment to this message.

00:03:22.600 On Valentine's Day, Matt Walsh did a segment on a show about transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney that has now been viewed by millions.

00:03:29.520 Quote, 0.91

00:03:29.740 You are weird, artificial. You are manufactured lifeless. You are unearthly and eerie. You are like some kind of human deepfake, Walsh said. 0.99

00:03:35.780 Everyone who looks at you will see something pitiable and bizarre.

00:03:39.840 Walsh has defended these statements as a good strategy because he says they rallied the conservative base.

00:03:44.480 He adds that the goal is not to convince the other side, but to defeat, humiliate, and demoralize his opponents.

00:03:50.140 This triggered a race to the bottom with other social media personas one-upping each other to see who can take more extreme stances.

00:03:57.240 She goes on to explain that there are people who she calls transsexuals who are not ideologues, she claims, and who, she says, you know, are, they know that they're not actually the opposite sex, even if that's how they identify.

00:04:11.280 And she worries that my, quote-unquote, hardline stance may be not only alienating them, but also fueling a, quote, sudden deluge of animus towards transsexuals.

00:04:23.240 She continues, quote,

00:04:24.220 Quote,

00:04:54.220 This is not a game.

00:05:23.680 Now, I admit that outside of her articles on Daily Wire, I didn't follow Christina's work very closely, and so I didn't know that in recent weeks she had also been on Twitter accusing those who are too far to the right, as far as she's concerned, on trans issues, of transphobia.

00:05:50.680 Transphobia, using that term exactly, calling people transphobes.

00:05:54.840 Now, if I had known that this was a sort of person who unironically accuses people of transphobia, I would not have been too surprised by what happened yesterday.

00:06:03.340 And even without knowing that, I'm still not very surprised, because as we've seen over the last several weeks, there has been what we might call a kind of great sorting among the critics of gender ideology.

00:06:15.200 Those who are not willing to go as far as needed and to say everything that needs to be said have been weeding themselves out.

00:06:25.160 And this is just the latest in that line, in that procession.

00:06:29.240 They're turning against their own allies, doing it in public, thereby intentionally giving ammunition to the very people they were supposed to be fighting against.

00:06:39.500 There's a reason why Media Matters picks this up.

00:06:41.620 I mean, just as a general rule, by the way, if you are supposed to be opposing the left or opposing them on any of these issues and you do or say anything that Media Matters finds useful, then that's a pretty good indication that you screwed up.

00:06:56.180 But they do this to their own side because they were never fully on our side to begin with.

00:07:03.020 And that's, I think, the crucial point here.

00:07:05.240 I'm not going to waste a lot of time on the personal side of this, except to say that I worked in the same building as this person, right across the hall from her.

00:07:14.820 If I'm not traveling, I'm in the office essentially from dawn to dusk and sometimes longer.

00:07:20.120 So she would have an ample opportunity to walk across the room and talk to me about her concerns.

00:07:26.180 Could have had a private conversation as colleagues and alleged allies in the fight against gender ideology.

00:07:32.240 Could have done that.

00:07:33.560 But instead, she chose to say nothing to me at all and take her grievances to the public.

00:07:38.800 In doing so, she not only questioned my approach and my strategy, but also my integrity and sincerity.

00:07:46.260 Same for Michael Knowles.

00:07:48.180 Questioning it on his end, too.

00:07:49.880 Accusing us of being mainly interested in cliques and entertainment.

00:07:53.060 And insinuating that we're not taking the issue seriously enough.

00:07:58.520 This is ironic, given that she made these accusations in a blog post where she used both my name and my picture, and Michael Knowles' name and picture, to get cliques.

00:08:08.640 And at the end of her resignation, she even solicits personal donations.

00:08:13.480 So it's like, Matt Walsh is only in it for the money.

00:08:15.580 By the way, if you agree with my complaints about Matt Walsh, please consider giving me money.

00:08:19.260 It's a bold sales pitch, I will admit.

00:08:23.000 We'll see if it pays off.

00:08:24.960 But the personal insults are not my primary concern.

00:08:27.680 I realize I'm a bit old-fashioned.

00:08:29.700 You know, I was raised to always speak directly to people if I have an issue with them.

00:08:35.080 I was also taught that I shouldn't needlessly burn bridges with people who have helped me and may be able to help me in the future.

00:08:41.800 I mean, I can remember being 17 years old and working at the local pizza place, and I was getting ready to quit.

00:08:50.140 And my dad told me even then, make sure you don't burn the bridge.

00:08:53.500 Don't want to burn the bridge with the pizza place.

00:08:55.340 You never know when you're going to need them again.

00:08:56.640 But these days, many people feel that whenever they quit a job, they have to nail their 95 theses to the door, publicly outlining every single thing they didn't like about the place.

00:09:10.100 They do that in the form now of, it's not so much a thesis on the door, but it's in the form of a TikTok video or, you know, a substack or something like that.

00:09:17.060 So I would say that this is not only improper and an unfair way to treat people who've helped you professionally, but also just a very bad career move that you are destined to regret in the future.

00:09:31.280 But that's just me, I suppose.

00:09:33.520 Much more important point is that, again, this is someone who's just the latest in a line of people who are supposedly on our side in this fight, and yet have turned against those of us who they feel are too extreme or too harsh or whatever.

00:09:52.020 As far as that goes, I think there are a couple of crucial takeaways here.

00:09:56.420 Now, I've already explained in strenuous detail why I believe it's not only morally justified, but also a good strategy to be blunt and more aggressive.

00:10:06.860 I don't need to belabor the point any more than I already have, except to say that if you think that it's possible to win a cultural battle and bring about a massive social change,

00:10:18.880 while also being exclusively polite and mild-tempered and focused on compromise, then you have never studied history, any history, I have to assume, because that's not how this works or has ever worked anywhere.

00:10:40.000 Every social movement needs its frontline combatants, its street fighters, you know, it's people who are willing to get their hands dirty. 0.97

00:10:50.300 So if you think that I'm a confrontational jerk, maybe you're right. 0.99

00:10:54.920 But the confrontational jerk community, okay, serves an important purpose. 0.99

00:11:01.160 You need us, whether you like it or not. 0.97

00:11:04.000 Now, no cultural battle can be won or has ever been won anywhere in the world without us.

00:11:12.920 Now, not everyone needs to adopt our approach or should adopt it.

00:11:17.740 You see, this doesn't go the other way.

00:11:20.060 I'm not out here saying, well, nobody should ever be polite.

00:11:23.180 Nobody should be nicer.

00:11:24.360 No one should be more gentle.

00:11:25.700 I don't say that.

00:11:27.340 As I've said many times, I believe in and I embrace a diversity of tactics.

00:11:34.000 So the problem isn't that these gentler and more squeamish people aren't adopting our approach.

00:11:40.300 It's that they think everyone should adopt their approach.

00:11:44.740 And they're wrong about that.

00:11:46.280 And that is also why, if you notice, on the left, they don't have this conversation.

00:11:54.600 Have you noticed that?

00:11:55.560 They never have this conversation.

00:11:58.040 So on the right, we're constantly stuck every day.

00:12:02.880 It's another version of the same debate.

00:12:05.500 Are we being too mean?

00:12:06.840 Are we being too mean to them?

00:12:08.300 Is this too mean?

00:12:09.460 Have you noticed that on the left, they have never once had that debate amongst themselves?

00:12:13.560 They never talk about that.

00:12:14.840 They're not worried about that.

00:12:16.200 Now, they might have a debate when there's some people on the left, like Bill Maher or whoever, who might say, I think we're being too crazy.

00:12:23.880 I think that some of the things we're advocating for are insane.

00:12:27.420 And we need to pull back from that because we're alienating.

00:12:29.600 A few people on the left will make that point.

00:12:32.460 But if they can all agree that they're right about something, then they will never, ever even consider the possibility that they're being too mean.

00:12:40.200 Then, why?

00:12:43.200 Well, because they're smarter than a lot of the people that are supposedly on our side.

00:12:46.880 They just are.

00:12:47.660 They realize that it's just, they realize that it's effective.

00:12:53.300 You know, it is effective to be blunt and direct and that you need that approach.

00:12:58.600 It is an effective strategy.

00:13:01.600 And also, it's morally justified if you're in the right.

00:13:04.980 They think they're in the right.

00:13:06.000 They're not.

00:13:06.900 But they think they are.

00:13:07.760 And they tell themselves they are.

00:13:11.940 And so, they tell themselves that they have righteous anger and they're expressing it.

00:13:16.120 We actually are in the right.

00:13:18.240 So, our anger is righteous and should be expressed.

00:13:22.260 But there's another problem, too, which I think runs much deeper.

00:13:25.600 And this is becoming clearer and clearer by the day to me.

00:13:28.520 You know, the fracturing in the movement right now is not driven primarily by a disagreement over tactics.

00:13:35.620 Okay?

00:13:35.780 Rather, it's driven by a fundamental disagreement over the issue itself.

00:13:42.140 There are many critics of gender ideology who, it turns out, are not actually critics of gender ideology.

00:13:50.520 Not fully, anyway.

00:13:52.620 They want the kids to be left alone.

00:13:54.520 They want to protect the integrity of female sports. 1.00

00:13:56.600 Maybe they're concerned about privacy in the bathrooms.

00:13:59.340 But when you dig down deeper, you discover that they aren't willing to attack the concept of transgenderism itself.

00:14:06.720 They recoil at some of its consequences.

00:14:09.960 They protest against some of its implications.

00:14:12.180 But they're not willing to wage an assault against the very roots of this evil.

00:14:16.960 That's why they were so appalled by what Michael Knoll said.

00:14:20.160 Okay?

00:14:20.440 It's not that he used the term eradicate.

00:14:22.860 That's not the issue, actually.

00:14:24.780 It's that he identified the concept of transgenderism as the underlying problem.

00:14:31.380 He pointed to the roots rather than the branches.

00:14:35.920 And that's what they don't like.

00:14:38.060 This is the dividing line.

00:14:39.480 This is the fault line that runs through the movement and separates one side from the other.

00:14:44.020 There are those who want to prune the branches, which means you're going to always be pruning them because the branches aren't going anywhere.

00:14:51.560 And then there are those of us who want to uproot the entire tree.

00:14:57.740 And yes, uprooting the tree is more dramatic.

00:15:00.860 It's more startling.

00:15:02.440 It's messier.

00:15:04.580 It may even be upsetting to some of those precious centrists in the middle.

00:15:09.600 It might be a little upsetting to them.

00:15:12.400 They might look at that as, like, you're taking the whole tree out.

00:15:16.040 That seems extreme to me.

00:15:17.460 Do we really need to do this?

00:15:18.420 Yeah, it might make them a little upset.

00:15:21.560 But it's the only way to win.

00:15:24.660 If you're not doing that, you're not even actually trying to win.

00:15:30.140 All you are doing is attempting weekly to mitigate some of the damage.

00:15:37.460 But you are not doing anything to address the thing that is actually causing the damage.

00:15:44.420 We can either eradicate the cancer or we can continue treating its symptoms until the cancer wins.

00:15:51.560 And if you're not willing to go after the cancer itself, then we aren't even on the same side.

00:15:59.660 So it's time for everyone to actually decide here.

00:16:02.520 The time of choosing.

00:16:04.440 Whose side are you actually on?

00:16:05.740 Because there is no middle here.

00:16:09.260 You have to choose.

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00:17:20.020 Tucker Carlson, of course, began airing unreleased footage from January 6th this week.

00:17:26.640 And it's been very upsetting for Democrats and for the media.

00:17:30.400 You know, they want us all to talk about and focus on January 6th, but only on certain very carefully curated details of that day.

00:17:40.840 Remember, these are the media and Democrats.

00:17:43.160 They are reality curators.

00:17:44.820 Now, they do a fair amount of outright lying about things, but most of the misdirection is about curating reality, like taking certain bits of what is real and curating it in a certain way to present a picture that's either not the full picture or is completely wrong and misleading.

00:18:06.280 What they don't want is, because they're curators, what they don't want is just a, you know, a full, this full stream of information being released to the public.

00:18:21.100 They don't want that.

00:18:22.460 They don't want information that they can't control being released to the public.

00:18:25.680 And that's what they're very afraid about, especially when it comes to this.

00:18:27.920 And that's why Chuck Schumer took to the floor of the Senate yesterday to very explicitly call for Carlson to be censored and for the footage to be suppressed.

00:18:38.920 And he wasn't hinting at it or anything.

00:18:40.800 He was directly calling for it from the floor of the Senate.

00:18:44.820 Let's listen.

00:18:46.300 So many others who were here in the Capitol and millions and millions of Americans are just furious with Tucker Carlson and Kevin McCarthy today.

00:18:57.100 And he's going to come back tonight with another segment.

00:19:01.720 Fox News should tell him not to.

00:19:04.420 Fox News, Rupert Murdoch, tell Carlson not to run a second segment of lies.

00:19:12.140 You know it's a lie.

00:19:13.460 You've admitted it's a lie.

00:19:15.960 And Speaker McCarthy is every bit as culpable as Mr. Carlson.

00:19:22.040 Speaker McCarthy's decision to share security footage with Fox looked like a mistake from the very beginning.

00:19:31.360 But after last night, it looks like a disaster.

00:19:36.460 Speaker McCarthy has played a treacherous, a treacherous game by catering to the hard right.

00:19:43.220 He's enabled the big lie and has further eroded away at our precious democracy.

00:19:51.180 Last night, millions of Americans tuned in to one of the most shameful hours we have ever seen on cable television.

00:19:59.360 With contempt for the facts, disregard of the risks, and knowing full well he was lying, lying to his audience,

00:20:09.880 Fox News host Tucker Carlson ran a lengthy segment last night arguing the January 6 Capitol attack was not a violent insurrection.

00:20:20.620 By diving deep into the waters of conspiracy and cherry-picking from thousands of hours of security footage,

00:20:29.720 Mr. Carlson told the bold-faced lie that the Capitol attack, which we all saw with our own eyes, was somehow not an attack at all.

00:20:40.240 He tried to argue it was nothing more than a peaceful sightseeing tour.

00:20:45.100 Can you imagine?

00:20:45.840 I urge Fox News to order Carlson to cease propagating the big lie on his network.

00:20:51.540 I can't imagine that, personally.

00:20:52.880 All right, turn him off.

00:20:53.580 That's fine.

00:20:54.700 I know, I can't imagine.

00:20:55.900 I can't imagine anyone in the media claiming that a riot was mostly peaceful.

00:21:00.480 I can't imagine that.

00:21:01.520 That is the first time.

00:21:02.840 This is totally unprecedented.

00:21:07.800 Well, I'll tell you what is unprecedented, or very nearly unprecedented.

00:21:13.460 I can't think of another example.

00:21:15.840 We have a sitting United States senator on the floor of the Senate, directly calling for a member of the media to be censored and suppressed.

00:21:26.280 Calling on his employer to stop him from doing a news segment.

00:21:33.800 Has it ever happened before?

00:21:35.540 If it has happened, it's not, it's a rare occurrence.

00:21:43.280 And it is, ironically, a much bigger, much greater attack on our democracy than anything that Chuck Schumer is complaining about.

00:21:52.480 What's an attack on our democracy?

00:21:56.820 A news figure, a news personality, an opinion host, giving his opinion about an event, and also releasing footage that we can all see.

00:22:07.140 Like, is that the attack on our democracy?

00:22:08.760 Or is it a United States senator directly using his power as a senator and his platform to call for that person to be censored and suppressed?

00:22:19.580 It's also, if you're, if you are concerned about how, you know, what the audience will think when they see the January 6th footage.

00:22:30.800 And you're, and if you're, I mean, if you're a Democrat and you're worried that they'll see it and they'll be sympathetic to, to the rioters and all the rest.

00:22:39.160 Well, the best way to make sure that they're sympathetic and the best way to, to confirm all of their suspicions is to do exactly what Chuck Schumer's doing.

00:22:49.280 I mean, if I didn't know any better, I would think these people are, they're trying to provoke another.

00:22:52.800 As much as they, as much as they, as much as they pretend to fret about, there's going to be another January 6th.

00:22:59.480 What we know is that they would love nothing more.

00:23:01.600 They would love nothing more than for there to be another one.

00:23:05.320 That would be, that would send them into, almost an orgasmic delight if there was another one.

00:23:12.300 I mean, just, just look at how much mileage they got out of the first.

00:23:15.460 So this is what's unprecedented.

00:23:17.800 Trying to suppress footage.

00:23:20.700 I also think it's funny when he complains about cherry pick.

00:23:25.240 It's cherry picked.

00:23:26.760 Well, yeah, it's a one hour news program.

00:23:29.980 You can only fit so much footage into it.

00:23:32.280 So yes, cherry picking, as in picking the parts that are the most relevant and interesting and, and that are the most revealing and the most newsworthy and releasing those.

00:23:43.560 Tucker Carlson cannot air 40,000 hours of uncut footage during his one hour news program.

00:23:50.700 Well, speaking of cherry picked, what, what about, so this is the unreleased footage.

00:23:56.780 Remember, this is the unreleased footage from January 6th.

00:24:00.380 There has been a little bit of footage that's been released.

00:24:03.400 Well, what about the people that released it?

00:24:05.980 Is that not cherry picked?

00:24:07.400 What about all the many January 6th committees and hearings and the footage that they released during, during, uh, those charades?

00:24:19.120 Was that not also cherry picked?

00:24:20.780 Well, of course it was.

00:24:22.380 It was cherry picked to support a certain narrative.

00:24:24.600 And now Tucker Carlson's coming along and he's picking different footage to shed a different kind of light on the event.

00:24:33.100 And that's what they're obviously worried about is how it interferes with the narrative.

00:24:36.500 How can they be lies anyway?

00:24:41.860 This lie, so are you accusing him of doctoring the footage?

00:24:46.260 Maybe that's where they'll go next.

00:24:47.660 I wouldn't be surprised.

00:24:49.360 It's been doctored.

00:24:51.360 But right now they're not even claiming that.

00:24:53.580 Misses actual footage.

00:24:55.200 See it for yourself.

00:24:55.980 The footage of, that we played yesterday, of Jacob Chansley, the, uh, so-called QAnon shaman being escorted through the building.

00:25:03.200 Okay, where's the lie there?

00:25:06.400 What part of that is a lie?

00:25:07.600 Was, was he not escorted through the building?

00:25:09.580 Are, are, are our eyes deceiving us?

00:25:12.140 Is this, uh, some sort of special effects?

00:25:14.880 Is, is, is, did Tucker Carlson deploy deceptive editing to make it seem that way?

00:25:21.180 Well, okay, then, then release whatever, whatever other context is needed to make it clear that it wasn't what it seems.

00:25:30.100 Like, release that.

00:25:31.220 Let us see that.

00:25:33.200 If the Capitol Police officers were not escorting this guy through the building as if he was taking a sightseeing tour, if that's not what they were doing, then what were they doing?

00:25:43.340 And if there's, if it was cherry-picked, then show us the rest.

00:25:49.340 Have you noticed that, too, that they, they say it's cherry-picked, it's not the full story?

00:25:53.120 Okay, well, then, whatever footage Carlson released, if there's more footage that would create a context that would totally change, you know, our, our opinion and perception of, of what Carlson shows, then release that footage.

00:26:08.840 But you notice they're, they're not, what they're, what they're doing instead is just trying to suppress the footage rather than releasing more footage to give us more context.

00:26:20.140 And I think that tells you everything you need to know.

00:26:23.680 The White House was asked about this as well, and here's what Karen Jean-Pierre said about it.

00:26:27.800 Last night, Tucker Carlson cherry-picked video surveillance from the January 6th insurrection, severely downplaying the event of that day.

00:26:36.980 He said the mob was orderly and meek and that they were tourists instead of insurrectionists.

00:26:43.120 What's your response to Carlson and to Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who granted him access to that video?

00:26:49.840 Anybody who watched that video would strongly disagree.

00:26:53.760 Anybody who watched that video in a, with their own eyes in a real way and saw what happened on that day would, would disagree with what was just stated.

00:27:08.400 The president has been very clear.

00:27:10.580 January 6th was the worst attack on our democracy since the Civil War, and we should be focused on making sure that never happens again.

00:27:18.240 And so we are certainly, we agree, I know Minority Leader and Senator Schumer have already said this,

00:27:28.640 and would hope that keeping the Capitol and Congress safe and secure remains Congressional Leader's number one goal,

00:27:35.740 and that should be our focus, and that should be what should be considered here.

00:27:38.900 And again, it was one of the darkest days of our democracy, and all you have to do is watch those videos and see how horrific it was,

00:27:47.760 see how sad it was, see an attack on the Capitol, which should not be happening in 2020.

00:27:54.700 And we got to get down to the bottom of what happened.

00:27:58.160 Again, it was an attack on our democracy, and I'll just leave it there.

00:28:02.900 So she makes no attempt to even seem sincere in anything that she says.

00:28:08.900 You know, very clearly reading, sometimes literally reading from a script.

00:28:13.760 Oh, this was an attack on our democracy?

00:28:16.900 The worst attack since the Civil War.

00:28:20.000 Was it really?

00:28:20.960 Because, you know, the Civil War, a total of 600,000 people were killed.

00:28:28.020 It totally changed the course of the nation.

00:28:31.300 I mean, nothing was the same after the Civil War.

00:28:34.220 600,000 Americans dead, you know, about 300,000 on both sides.

00:28:40.480 So it was an actual war, actual physical war being fought in the United States.

00:28:45.540 And this was an event, January 6th, rather, was an event that happened over the course of a couple hours in D.C.

00:28:54.580 The only person who was directly killed that day was one of the rioters.

00:28:59.240 And then it was over, and that's it.

00:29:04.400 Oh, yeah, exactly the same.

00:29:07.640 Of course.

00:29:08.200 All right, I'm a little late to this story, but here's the Financial Times.

00:29:14.240 It says,

00:29:14.540 The president proudly opened the new house for 40,000 prisoners last month,

00:29:31.800 where gang members will be sent to live for decades to pay for their alleged crimes.

00:29:35.920 The vast penal experiment, if it reaches full capacity, will be unrivaled in the scale of its incarceration,

00:29:41.780 a facility that could accommodate two-thirds of Germany's total prison population in one place.

00:29:47.040 But if the president sees through his plans, the prison will also have another unique and chilling feature.

00:29:53.440 It will set records for deliberately designed overcrowding,

00:29:57.220 according to Financial Times' analysis of the complex using satellite imagery.

00:30:00.460 If it reaches the 40,000 capacity advertised by the government,

00:30:04.460 each inmate will have just 0.6 square meters within shared cells, according to FT calculations.

00:30:10.480 That is a fraction of what is expected for humane incarceration

00:30:13.280 and less than half the minimum required under EU law to transport mid-sized cattle by road.

00:30:20.120 There's been a lot of footage of this prison that's been circulating online.

00:30:24.380 And you can see it's a very, you know, hundreds and hundreds of inmates that are being escorted through the prison.

00:30:31.620 They're being made to kneel on the ground.

00:30:34.380 It's, they're being treated, well, they're being treated like prisoners, if you can imagine.

00:30:38.300 And I understand it's very shocking for those of us in the modern United States

00:30:42.100 to see prisoners being treated like prisoners.

00:30:45.680 My God, they're treating these prisoners like some sort of prisoners.

00:30:49.760 So it's shocking for us when we see footage like this.

00:30:53.180 Here's a, here's a report from CNN with some of the footage.

00:30:55.920 A warning, some of the images you are about to see, you might find disturbing.

00:31:06.680 What you're looking at is a glossy, professionally shot,

00:31:09.920 promotional video of El Salvador's new giant prison.

00:31:14.180 It shows thousands of alleged gangsters being taken to a jail so big

00:31:18.540 it can host 40,000 people.

00:31:20.940 And that the government says it's the largest in the Americas.

00:31:29.060 El Salvador is a country with a huge prison population

00:31:32.040 because of the presence of two of the largest criminal organizations in the world,

00:31:36.280 MS-13 and Barrio 18.

00:31:39.740 Last year, the country's president, Nayib Bukele,

00:31:42.360 launched a new national emergency law to fight the gangs.

00:31:45.100 That led to tens of thousands of arrests.

00:31:49.220 All right, see, see the footage.

00:31:49.920 By the end of 20-

00:31:50.760 Shocking.

00:31:52.260 Shocking footage.

00:31:53.260 Terribly shocking.

00:31:54.340 And it is terrible.

00:31:55.540 You know, I would, uh, this is overboard.

00:31:59.180 I mean, I would never treat violent gang members this way.

00:32:03.780 Just kidding, of course.

00:32:05.020 I mean, this is, uh, you know what this is?

00:32:06.300 This is, this is actually justice.

00:32:09.340 It's what justice looks like.

00:32:11.400 And again, I know it might be surprising to those of us in the United States

00:32:14.840 in a comfortable modern Western civilization

00:32:18.040 that also happens to be decaying and falling apart,

00:32:21.080 uh, and in part because of our rampant crime that's destroying all of our cities.

00:32:27.700 But still, it might be surprising to us to see that, uh, prisons are not supposed to be comfortable.

00:32:32.800 They are supposed to be the kinds of places that you really don't want to go to.

00:32:38.000 It's supposed to be a punishment.

00:32:39.980 You're supposed to suffer when you're in prison.

00:32:43.100 That's what punishment is meant to do.

00:32:45.180 It is meant to cause suffering.

00:32:47.280 Not just suffering for its own sake, but for a purpose.

00:32:51.460 Um, and the purpose ultimately is justice.

00:32:54.820 Like, there is no such thing as justice if you are not causing suffering to evildoers. 0.97

00:33:04.620 That doesn't exist.

00:33:07.680 And the reaction, though, to this El Salvador prison story is,

00:33:10.820 it's interesting because you got lots of people who constantly complain about,

00:33:14.420 you know, nonviolent offenders being locked in prison in this country.

00:33:18.980 Um, and yet they're still complaining about this, even though these guys are cartel members.

00:33:26.440 They belong to Central American drug gangs.

00:33:29.820 Okay.

00:33:30.340 These are as violent and dangerous as it gets.

00:33:34.160 These are not nonviolent offenders. 0.91

00:33:36.300 These are the guys who will kidnap you and cut your head off and leave your headless body in the middle of the street 1.00

00:33:43.240 and throw your head into a bag with all the other severed heads. 1.00

00:33:46.720 That's these guys. 0.99

00:33:47.920 That's what they do. 1.00

00:33:49.360 Um, these are the guys who will murder your children. 1.00

00:33:52.440 Okay. 1.00

00:33:52.860 These are the guys that will kill your entire family without even thinking about it. 0.98

00:33:58.480 And you're concerned that they are being treated too harshly?

00:34:04.200 Now, this actually makes sense when you understand something,

00:34:06.820 that the people who complain about this sort of thing,

00:34:10.620 most of them are not bleeding heart liberals.

00:34:14.020 They're leftists, but the bleeding heart liberal stereotype is almost entirely a fantasy.

00:34:18.980 Um, they, they don't have bleeding hearts.

00:34:21.560 Okay.

00:34:21.880 They don't.

00:34:22.360 I mean, if we showed them this same footage, but we told them that all the prisoners were convicted of being,

00:34:28.200 what have we told them that all the prisoners are convicted transphobes?

00:34:31.460 Well, then, then they'd probably complain the treatment's not harsh enough.

00:34:35.720 Then they would say, oh, it's only, it's a 0.6 square meters.

00:34:40.780 Uh, you're giving them that much?

00:34:42.100 They're transphobes.

00:34:45.100 So they don't have an overabundance of compassion and sympathy.

00:34:48.240 No, the issue is this.

00:34:49.940 Uh, first, they're beholden to identity politics, obviously,

00:34:52.680 which means that cartel gangbangers from Central America, well, they're victims

00:34:57.880 because they belong to a victim class, as do most prisoners in the United States.

00:35:01.960 So that's part of it.

00:35:02.860 The other part is that, is that they, they don't believe in free will.

00:35:09.240 Okay.

00:35:09.680 And that plays a big role, and it, it, it, very rarely does it come up explicitly

00:35:14.060 when we're talking about criminal justice issues and so-called criminal justice reform.

00:35:18.740 But that actually is what is, what, what lies underneath a lot of this,

00:35:22.700 is that the people that are advocating for, quote, unquote, criminal justice reform,

00:35:26.440 whether in this country or in El Salvador or anywhere else, they, they don't believe in free will. 0.97

00:35:32.480 Um, which means they, they don't want prisoners to be harshly punished

00:35:36.180 because they don't think that prisoners are, and criminals are responsible for anything they do.

00:35:44.540 That's the point for them.

00:35:47.020 That they look at these guys, and yeah, they're, they're violent gang members, cartel members, 0.99

00:35:51.660 they'll cut your head off, they'll cut your children's heads off, but they're not, it's, 0.99

00:35:55.300 it's not their fault. 0.99

00:35:56.440 They're not, they don't make that choice.

00:35:58.540 They're, they, it's, they are, they're already prisoners of circumstance,

00:36:01.940 circumstance, and it's circumstance and environment and all of that, that determines what they do.

00:36:06.820 They have no agency over their own actions.

00:36:10.820 Um, nobody does, according to the left.

00:36:14.680 So they reject the concept of free will, which means that really any form of, of, uh, of punishment

00:36:21.060 is cruel and unusual because you're punishing people for something that they didn't, that they had no,

00:36:27.620 that they didn't actually do.

00:36:29.000 They didn't choose to do it, and that's nonsense, obviously.

00:36:33.200 Free will is, not only does free will exist, but it's one of the most self-evident realities in the universe.

00:36:39.360 But that is what they think.

00:36:40.420 Of course, this is not consistently applied.

00:36:42.200 As I said, if they, if they saw that video and we told them that these were convicted transphobes,

00:36:46.840 they'd be okay with it.

00:36:47.840 So, even though they don't believe in free will, and they believe that we're victims of circumstance,

00:36:52.940 and that everything we do is, we're programmed to do it and so forth,

00:36:55.500 they, they don't apply that equally.

00:36:58.180 And so if they accuse you of being a bigot or transphobe or homophobe,

00:37:01.840 then they, they want you to suffer the consequences for that.

00:37:04.260 So you are guilty of that.

00:37:05.680 You're responsible for that. 0.95

00:37:07.100 However, if you're a gang member in El Salvador and you cut somebody's head off,

00:37:10.640 you're not responsible for that.

00:37:11.580 So this is, it's not consistent.

00:37:13.580 It does, it's not coherent, obviously.

00:37:15.240 But, um, and one thing that we know about the left is that whatever their principles are,

00:37:20.320 uh, they, they never apply them consistently ever.

00:37:24.780 I mean, their number one principle is don't apply principles consistently.

00:37:28.880 But that is what is, uh, that, that's, that's the underlying issue thing, issue here, I think.

00:37:34.420 All right.

00:37:35.340 One other thing before we get to the, uh, comment section.

00:37:39.220 Well, maybe two.

00:37:40.120 So Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas was on CNN as well,

00:37:44.120 where he was, um, asked whether the border crisis is, in fact, a crisis.

00:37:49.880 And here's what he says.

00:37:51.580 Many of your opponents call it a border crisis.

00:37:54.000 Do you consider it a crisis in the Biden administration?

00:37:56.860 Christian, the, the, the issues that we have are extraordinarily diverse.

00:38:01.040 You know, I spoke about extreme weather events.

00:38:03.420 I spoke about cybersecurity.

00:38:05.420 You and I have now exchanged about the threat of adverse nation states,

00:38:09.500 uh, that seek to infringe on our and other countries' sovereignty.

00:38:15.480 You know, 20 years ago, when our department was created, it was the foreign terrorists. 0.99

00:38:19.720 We now have the challenge of domestic violent extremists.

00:38:23.760 When we speak about the border, we have to put it in context.

00:38:28.000 That this is not a challenge, and it is indeed a challenge,

00:38:31.500 not a challenge exclusive to the United States.

00:38:34.640 You know, Chile, uh, just deployed its military to its border.

00:38:38.680 Colombia has 2.5 million Venezuelans within its borders.

00:38:45.360 Costa Rica's population is increasingly Nicaraguan.

00:38:49.600 We are seeing a movement of people throughout the hemisphere,

00:38:52.660 and quite frankly, throughout the world, that is historic.

00:38:57.940 It's not a crisis. It's a challenge.

00:39:01.400 It's a challenge, you see.

00:39:02.700 So, it's always, uh, interesting to see where they, where they, uh,

00:39:08.840 Democrats become suddenly, you know, they become suddenly very cautious

00:39:12.760 in, in the way that they describe things,

00:39:16.200 and they don't want to engage in hyperbole,

00:39:18.540 and so they're very careful.

00:39:19.600 We don't call it a crisis. It's a challenge.

00:39:22.080 Um, so they do that on this particular issue.

00:39:26.980 So, on this issue, it's a, it is a, a challenge, not a crisis.

00:39:33.060 But when you have, I, I, I don't know, the examples are endless.

00:39:36.200 When you have parents showing up at school board meetings,

00:39:40.060 you know, angry that there's pornography in the, in, in the library,

00:39:44.060 that's a, that we can describe as a crisis.

00:39:46.200 It's a domestic terrorism crisis.

00:39:47.780 And the crisis is not the pornography, but that the parents are upset about it.

00:39:53.180 However, when you've got millions of people pouring into this country,

00:39:56.280 our borders being erased, um, not a crisis, just a challenge, sure.

00:40:02.420 All right, so, one other quick thing.

00:40:03.820 I did a, I did a segment several days ago.

00:40:05.720 I, I think it was a daily cancellation, where I talked about asexuals.

00:40:09.400 And in particular, I was responding to a profile of an asexual in, uh,

00:40:13.000 it was the New York Times or the Washington Post or one of these outlets.

00:40:14.860 They're all the same.

00:40:15.640 And they told us about an asexual person,

00:40:17.500 and they even introduced us to the asexual stuffed animals.

00:40:21.620 And, uh, and, and they gave us the, the names of the stuffed animals too.

00:40:25.300 Um, and that's the kind of thing tailor-made for the daily cancellation.

00:40:29.580 I mean, when, when a mainstream outlet puts something like that out there,

00:40:31.820 I can only assume that they have made it for the daily.

00:40:35.240 That's, that's, it's just,

00:40:36.900 how could I not include it in the daily cancellation segment?

00:40:40.820 Um, but that segment apparently, I guess, has gone viral on TikTok.

00:40:44.180 And it's led to, uh, a whole bunch of rebuttal and reaction videos from the asexual community.

00:40:50.300 Very upset about what I said about asexuals. 1.00

00:40:53.400 Uh, and also the plushie enthusiast community upset as well.

00:40:57.080 So, uh, here's one of those videos.

00:40:59.040 So, I heard that all you have to do to piss off Matt Walsh is to be asexual and have plushies. 0.82

00:41:05.540 So, I'm asexual. 0.96

00:41:07.260 Let's meet my plushies.

00:41:08.380 This is Lotus, she, her.

00:41:17.740 This is Beetlejuice, he, him.

00:41:23.380 This is Lake, he, him.

00:41:30.400 This is Caden, uh, she, they.

00:41:33.360 This is Lake, he, him.

00:41:39.020 Pomp, he, him.

00:41:43.680 Meadow, they, them.

00:41:50.640 Priscilla, she, her.

00:41:54.480 This is, I'm doing this right?

00:41:55.620 One more plushies than I thought.

00:41:57.860 Okay, good.

00:41:59.040 Well, so you see, I mean, clearly, everything I said about, you know, asexuals maybe having some issues.

00:42:04.500 Obviously, I'm wrong.

00:42:05.480 I've been proven, I've been proven totally wrong.

00:42:08.360 Listen, uh, the point I made there that I will reiterate is that, you know, if you are defining yourself, your, your perceived inability to develop romantic attractions to other people, um, that's not an identity to be embraced.

00:42:31.700 Okay, it's, it's, it's, that's the absence of something.

00:42:34.980 That is your, your inability to experience one of the, something that's, that's central to the human condition.

00:42:42.300 You know, the ability to, to experience love and romantic attraction.

00:42:45.720 It's part of what makes us human beings.

00:42:48.360 And so if you perceive yourself to be unable to do that, it's not, that's not your identity now.

00:42:53.820 This, this, this emptiness, this absence is not an identity.

00:42:58.080 I mean, it's bad enough when people claim an identity, you know, find their identity entirely in their sexual attractions.

00:43:07.040 That's bad enough because our identity should not be completely tied up in our sexual proclivities and attractions.

00:43:13.480 That shouldn't be our whole identity, our whole personality.

00:43:16.100 But to make your whole identity and your whole personality, the lack of that is even worse.

00:43:20.880 And it's also not something that you need to just accept.

00:43:25.400 That's part of the problem with making an identity, put it on the flag.

00:43:28.960 You know, you have your own acronym in the, in the, uh, in the LGBT thing.

00:43:32.700 You have your own letter in the acronym.

00:43:34.440 Uh, when you do that, you've just, you've, you've embraced and accepted this thing that you don't need to.

00:43:41.400 Because, um, there, there, there's obviously some other issues that are going on that you need to address.

00:43:47.740 And if you address that, then you may discover that actually, although you perceive yourself to be unable to develop romantic attractions and to have that kind of bond with another human being, you perceive that yourself to be unable to do that.

00:43:59.720 You actually are able to do it, but you have to go and get the help that you need to be able to experience that aspect of being a human.

00:44:10.020 So, I think it's, it's a rather encouraging and uplifting message for me.

00:44:14.320 At least it's as uplifting and encouraging as it gets.

00:44:16.940 Okay?

00:44:17.120 It's the best you're going to get from me.

00:44:19.760 Let's get now to the comment section.

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00:45:48.680 All right, so this is our last day in Florida.

00:45:52.260 We've been in Florida.

00:45:53.000 We've been in Palm Beach, Florida the last couple of days.

00:45:54.680 I was speaking at the PragerU banquet, their gala in Palm Beach at the Breakers Resort, which is where we currently are.

00:46:03.600 And I've never been here before.

00:46:05.500 It's absurdly nice and beautiful.

00:46:08.560 I guess this building was built, I think, in the late 19th century.

00:46:14.480 And they don't make buildings like this anymore.

00:46:16.980 It's just a beautiful resort.

00:46:18.140 It's right on the ocean.

00:46:19.800 It's great.

00:46:21.240 And oftentimes when I'm traveling, I'll take a couple pictures of something.

00:46:26.200 I'll send it to my wife just so she knows where I am and she's interested in where I am.

00:46:31.480 I decided not to do that in this case because I didn't want to rub it in too much.

00:46:36.460 She's home with six kids right now.

00:46:38.280 So, and, you know, I was thinking about this yesterday because I'm sitting in my room in the morning doing a little bit of show prep.

00:46:45.640 And I got the windows open overlooking the ocean.

00:46:48.440 I can hear the waves crashing.

00:46:49.860 It's beautiful.

00:46:50.840 I'm eating the gourmet room service breakfast charged to the Daily Wire.

00:46:56.480 Thank you very much for that.

00:46:58.180 And then my wife calls me and I can hear the babies crying in the background.

00:47:02.040 And she tells me that our three-year-old came down with a stomach bug overnight.

00:47:06.900 She was up with a three-year-old throwing up.

00:47:10.440 And I hear all that commotion.

00:47:11.920 I'm contrasting that with being in my nice suite with the ocean and everything.

00:47:15.880 And then she asks me.

00:47:17.920 She said, well, so that's what's happening.

00:47:19.300 What's going on with you?

00:47:20.940 And I just look around.

00:47:21.960 I say, well, it's not good here either.

00:47:24.560 I don't want to go into details, but it's bad.

00:47:27.400 Don't ask me to explain it, but it just is.

00:47:31.860 Budgie Birdie says, I was laughing so hard at Matt's experience of shopping with his wife.

00:47:36.800 My husband is the same way.

00:47:37.980 We were out one afternoon and I wanted to stop by Kohl's.

00:47:40.820 And my husband dropped me off and said he was going home and to call me when I was done.

00:47:45.020 That's a smart move.

00:47:46.000 That's a veteran move by your husband.

00:47:47.620 And I still make the rookie mistake often of saying, I'll wait in the car.

00:47:52.200 And then you're waiting in the car for three and a half hours.

00:47:54.440 So this is a smart man.

00:47:56.940 He's been around the block a few times.

00:47:58.080 So he says, I'll just go home.

00:47:59.640 Call me.

00:48:00.300 Call me sometime this evening whenever you're done and I'll come pick you up.

00:48:03.800 Smart move.

00:48:05.480 Sarah says, the moment I tuned into the Chris Rock comedy special, I was dying to hear what Matt's commentary would be.

00:48:10.920 Hopefully it's covered.

00:48:11.720 And if so, buckle up.

00:48:13.420 I haven't watched it yet.

00:48:14.800 I know that there's been a lot of reaction to it and I guess it's been a similar reaction to Dave Chappelle where this was supposed to be a comedy special where he's going after the woke crowd and everything.

00:48:27.280 And I know there are a lot of conservative people on the right that are applauding it.

00:48:30.360 I haven't listened to it.

00:48:31.720 I haven't watched it myself yet.

00:48:33.760 But I will.

00:48:35.540 Hopefully, you know, I've said this before about I appreciate some of what Dave Chappelle says, obviously.

00:48:40.860 But I've actually found his last couple comedy specials that got all this publicity and I watched them and I agree with some of this, but I don't find it that funny.

00:48:51.400 It's like it's it seems like he's he's preaching and I agree with some of what he's preaching, but it's not as funny as his older stuff.

00:48:58.060 And so that's a that's something I've noticed with some of these anti-woke comedians.

00:49:03.860 There aren't many of them, so maybe we can't beggars can't be choosers, but they're saying things that are right, but they've lost some of the of the of the wit.

00:49:14.120 And really, you want to have both.

00:49:17.080 So I don't know if that's the case.

00:49:18.320 What I'm hoping is that it's anti-woke and all of that, but it's also really it's actually it is actually really funny.

00:49:25.040 And I don't know yet, but I'll I'll watch and find out.

00:49:27.440 Justin says, I'm so proud to have Matt as one of us. The fish keeping community is richer for having him.

00:49:34.220 Well, I appreciate that, Justin. This is a so we are a marginalized community ourselves.

00:49:39.780 I'm not sure in what way we're marginalized, but I'll I'll figure that out.

00:49:44.320 I just know that we are.

00:49:46.640 And Sherry says self-check registers I've created or allowed a huge theft problem seems to have seems to happen a lot.

00:49:52.540 And we've seen employees witness it and do nothing.

00:49:54.500 And yeah, self-check probably doesn't help.

00:49:57.920 And the employees witness it and do nothing because they're told that they're not allowed to do anything.

00:50:02.280 I can remember this even back when I worked in retail.

00:50:04.920 And this is one thing they told is that if you see anybody stealing, you are not if you try to stop them, you will be fired.

00:50:10.200 We'll fire you for trying to stop them.

00:50:12.520 And so that's why I don't I don't when I when I see all these videos of people going in and robbing a place and throwing items into a black trash bag and walking out with it.

00:50:21.600 And you see the employees just standing there doing nothing.

00:50:25.500 And sometimes the reaction online will be, why are they doing anything?

00:50:28.580 I don't blame them for not doing anything.

00:50:29.740 They're told not to do anything.

00:50:30.980 And if so, if they step up to try to defend their employer's bottom line, they'll get fired for it.

00:50:37.340 So, of course, they're not going to do anything.

00:50:38.500 I don't blame them for that.

00:50:39.240 I blame the person who's doing the stealing.

00:50:43.720 And to a certain extent, I guess you have to blame these these corporations in these these stores for having those policies in the first place.

00:50:49.620 They might want to adjust those policies.

00:50:53.700 So that's part of it.

00:50:55.020 Self-check probably doesn't help.

00:50:56.780 Also, the masking.

00:50:58.680 Now, people don't mask nearly as much as they used to.

00:51:01.080 Thank God.

00:51:01.620 But it is it is this is a connection that's not made often enough, but it is not a coincidence that this current trend of mass looting and mass shoplifting and this kind of brazen shoplifting that goes on that we see all the time in the viral videos.

00:51:16.540 I don't think it's a coincidence that this started to happen pretty much at the exact moment when all the customers in all these stores are wearing masks.

00:51:27.720 Some of us warned about that.

00:51:29.540 I can remember sending a tweet out early on with the masking stuff saying that, you know, this is going to lead to shoplifting.

00:51:34.080 You've got a bunch of customers in there with their faces hidden.

00:51:37.720 You're creating opportunities for shoplifting.

00:51:39.500 I can remember saying that and being laughed at as if it was some sort of absurd, slippery slope, you know, extreme hypothetical.

00:51:50.620 And it might have been a slippery slope, but it's nothing extreme about it.

00:51:53.800 It's just a matter of connecting the dots.

00:51:55.220 You know, when you when you tell when you tell customers to hide their faces and obscure their identity, you are creating more of an incentive and more of a temptation for stealing, more of an opportunity for stealing.

00:52:11.120 And then that's what you end up with.

00:52:12.620 Not a big surprise.

00:52:14.000 Jordan Peterson has completed the second half of his extraordinary 16 part seminar on the book of Exodus.

00:52:19.160 He's joined by a group of esteemed scholars, theologians and artists to discuss one of the most seminal books in the Bible.

00:52:25.660 Episode nine is streaming now on Daily Wire Plus.

00:52:28.380 You know, we live in a time where children, they don't respect or honor their parents.

00:52:32.280 And that's a horrible thing for society.

00:52:33.980 It's also a broken commandment as well.

00:52:36.700 Here's a clip from Exodus where Jordan is discussing exactly this issue.

00:52:39.720 Check it out.

00:52:40.720 OK, why should you maybe you have a terrible father and you have a terrible mother?

00:52:44.540 And you might say, well, why should you honor them and why should you honor the elderly?

00:52:49.480 And one answer is going to be something like, well, your destiny is to become elderly.

00:52:55.180 And so if you set up your society so that the elderly, the traditions aren't valued and then you're going to eventually end up in a situation where you're the tradition that's not valued.

00:53:06.740 So there's this hint of iterability there, right, is that and so and so you might also think, too, that that capacity that we have to honor that which came before us, our father and our mother, is what is it?

00:53:23.420 It's it's an honoring of the fundamental spirit of patriarchal and matriarchal love. 0.99

00:53:28.580 It's something like that.

00:53:29.720 And it's equivalent to the ethos that has to bind us together, not only right now, but across time.

00:53:36.580 It's something like that.

00:53:37.980 The fifth is the fifth is honor your parents.

00:53:40.800 And your point is entirely accurate and important.

00:53:45.260 It's theoretically on the wrong tablet because those are all between man and God.

00:53:50.320 And then you have that.

00:53:52.060 So here's here's how I see it.

00:53:54.260 And this is not I don't think it is even original to me, but I haven't heard it elsewhere, but I'm sure it's been said.

00:54:01.320 The first four rest on the fifth and the second four rest on the tenth.

00:54:06.140 If you honor your father and mother, it is the conduit to God.

00:54:10.500 If you don't have a father on earth, you won't have a father in heaven.

00:54:14.120 And that the authority of the parent, Freud, even who was an atheist, made this point.

00:54:21.540 How you see your father is how you will see God.

00:54:24.820 Your parents are the conduit, especially your father, to God.

00:54:30.060 And if you don't have that authority, you won't have divine authority.

00:54:34.060 Really interesting. Great, great insights there.

00:54:36.820 And also, you know, it's it's I was going to say one of the commandments, but this is true of all of them that have been forgotten in modern society.

00:54:43.740 And talking about honoring your parents and honoring your elders, especially in a culture that worships youth, is is incredibly important.

00:54:52.320 It's one of the one of the many insights you get from from this.

00:54:54.840 Episode nine is available now with new episodes streaming every week.

00:54:57.920 That's exclusive for Daily Wire Plus members.

00:54:59.920 Also, don't miss out on our full library of Jordan Peterson content, including Dragons, Monsters and Men, Vision and Destiny, Marriage, Logos and Literacy, and the Beyond Order Tour.

00:55:10.380 I don't know how he manages to create all this content and it's all interesting and insightful, but he doesn't.

00:55:15.320 So join now at dailywire.com slash subscribe to watch Exodus today.

00:55:19.360 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:55:20.660 A new podcast called The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling examines the life and times of the Harry Potter author, focusing in particular on her efforts to defend the reality of biological sex and the insane backlash she's received because of that.

00:55:40.060 I haven't listened to the series myself, so I'll just read.

00:55:42.680 I'll read for you this very objective explainer by CNN as they are explaining what the series is.

00:55:48.820 Here's what CNN says, and this is not labeled as an opinion article, by the way.

00:55:53.940 For years, J.K. Rowling, one of the best-selling authors of all time, has made inflammatory comments about transgender people, particularly trans women, using dehumanizing language and baselessly accusing them of harming cisgender women.

00:56:05.380 Her words have disappointed legions of Harry Potter fans and even the stars who brought Rowling's book to life.

00:56:10.440 Now a podcast called The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling indicates that she'll discuss the reaction to those anti-trans comments, in addition to discussing her journey as an author, with host Megan Phelps Roper, a high-profile former member of the anti-LGBTQ Westboro Baptist Church.

00:56:25.100 Even before its release, the podcast was met with criticism by LGBTQ advocates for seemingly siding with Rowling based on the title alone.

00:56:31.860 Well, all right then. At least CNN clearly isn't taking sides.

00:56:36.300 Or maybe they are, but it's okay, because Rowling is a dangerous figure, prone to making outrageous comments such as the claim that, you know, biological sex exists and that women don't have penises. 0.99

00:56:47.780 The threat she poses is so severe that the news media must drop even the pretense of objectivity when reporting on her. 0.97

00:56:54.060 Though in fairness, these days, they also feel the need to drop the pretense of objectivity when reporting on literally anything else.

00:57:01.780 But what sort of threat does Rowling pose exactly?

00:57:04.920 You know, they know that she's a horrible person.

00:57:06.920 They know that she's dangerous. 1.00

00:57:08.340 They know that she's a raging bigot. 1.00

00:57:10.720 But how do they know this?

00:57:13.100 Like, why do they think this?

00:57:15.140 And how is Rowling actually wrong about anything she's said on the subject of biological sex and transgenderism?

00:57:21.980 These are questions that the media doesn't spend very much time trying to grapple with.

00:57:26.100 I mean, why bother explaining why someone is bigoted when you can simply accuse them of bigotry and just leave it at that?

00:57:31.980 Why bother explaining how they're wrong when you can, again, simply accuse them of bigotry and leave it at that?

00:57:37.600 This has been their general strategy, of course, when it comes to most people.

00:57:41.480 But one intrepid reporter, Monica Hess of The Washington Post, has decided to tread the perilous road that few journalists dare to go down.

00:57:50.380 So she has listened to the entire Witch Trials podcast, looking for specific evidence that Rowling is a transphobe.

00:57:58.040 And she reports her findings in a piece titled, quote,

00:58:00.940 Listening to the Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling is exhausting work.

00:58:04.620 A podcast promised clarity from Harry Potter author on how she feels about trans issues, but it falls to the audience to fact check her.

00:58:11.960 Reading a bit from the article, it says,

00:58:13.220 Listening to the Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling is exhausting.

00:58:16.560 It's exhausting because it requires constant vigilance.

00:58:19.700 And it's exhausting because the phrase, constant vigilance, I've just realized,

00:58:23.560 entered my own lexicon via Mad-Eye Moody, a beloved Harry Potter character.

00:58:27.980 Because Rowling is brilliant, is a brilliant and beloved storyteller who is astonishingly good at entering lexicons,

00:58:33.960 manipulating language, and telling fantasy stories.

00:58:36.720 It's how she became famous.

00:58:37.880 It's why events surrounding Rowling these past few years have felt like a god-awful mess.

00:58:44.240 So, this is a grown adult woman who writes professionally,

00:58:50.200 and yet has admitted that she learned an extremely common phrase from a Harry Potter book.

00:58:56.300 In fact, she seems to think that this phrase, that has probably appeared in 10,000 books,

00:59:00.260 was invented by J.K. Rowling.

00:59:02.440 Which is just her way of confessing that she's never read any books but the Harry Potter series.

00:59:09.340 And that does help to put the anti-Rowling panic into an important context.

00:59:16.600 It's an important thing to understand that many of Rowling's most hysterical critics

00:59:20.240 have only ever read the Harry Potter books, along with, you know, maybe potentially the Twilight series.

00:59:25.260 So, they consider it an unconscionable betrayal because they discovered that the author of the only books they've ever read

00:59:33.360 has beliefs that differ from their own.

00:59:36.500 So, to them, this is like, it's like finding out that your father is living a secret life with another family across town.

00:59:43.400 They just couldn't process it.

00:59:45.560 They had very carefully constructed a bubble for themselves,

00:59:49.640 only allowing themselves to be exposed to opinions and ideas that they already agree with,

00:59:54.540 just to then find out that the woman who wrote their favorite books, 0.98

00:59:58.880 and the only books, as far as they're concerned, belongs outside the bubble.

01:00:04.220 She had infiltrated the bubble.

01:00:06.100 She was an intruder.

01:00:08.180 Perhaps that's why Monica Hess is so exhausted. 0.82

01:00:11.680 In fact, just listening to the podcast is exhausting, she says.

01:00:15.160 It's exhausting work.

01:00:16.580 But she's not just exhausted by podcasts.

01:00:18.400 She's also exhausted by reading tweets.

01:00:20.780 Later in the piece, she writes this, quote,

01:00:22.220 Well, I don't doubt, I do doubt, rather, that there are any roofers or construction workers or guys who work on oil rigs

01:00:48.780 reading a Washington Post article complaining about a J.K. Rowling podcast.

01:00:53.120 But if there are, I'd love to see how they react to this woman claiming that her job is exhausting 1.00

01:00:59.980 because it involves reading tweets and listening to podcasts.

01:01:04.400 One can just imagine Monica Hess of the Washington Post covered in a soot from, you know, working in the tweet mines all day, 0.65

01:01:12.320 holding her lunch pail, punching out, driving home, collapsing on the couch in utter exhaustion,

01:01:18.620 muscles aching, barely able to move after an exhausting day reading J.K. Rowling tweets.

01:01:25.360 At least that's what she wants you to imagine.

01:01:27.100 You'll notice that the leftists, they're endlessly complaining about their own exhaustion.

01:01:33.640 And it's not because they're doing anything physically demanding or doing anything at all in general,

01:01:38.220 but rather because it's the emotional strain, as they would put it,

01:01:42.480 the emotional labor of constantly encountering the traumatic reality that other people exist.

01:01:48.500 And they have their own opinions and beliefs about the world.

01:01:54.040 And those opinions and beliefs sometimes fall outside of the opinions and beliefs box that the left has set up for us.

01:02:01.280 This is what exhausts them so much.

01:02:04.140 They are exhausted to discover that they can't directly control what everyone in the world thinks and says.

01:02:10.820 But exhausting as this all may be, we still haven't gotten to the point.

01:02:13.780 Hess has set out to prove that J.K. Rowling is bigoted and transphobic.

01:02:18.980 That's what she's looking for.

01:02:20.140 She's looking for evidence of that. 0.97

01:02:22.380 She knows it's there.

01:02:23.480 She can feel it.

01:02:24.780 But she wants to lay eyes on it.

01:02:27.580 Does she?

01:02:28.760 Well, it's complicated.

01:02:29.880 She writes, quote,

01:02:30.460 Is J.K. Rowling transphobic?

01:02:33.320 That's what I was listening to the podcast to begin with.

01:02:36.080 It promised that Rowling would speak with unprecedented candor and depth about the controversy surrounding her,

01:02:41.100 surrounding her, from book bans to debates on gender and sex.

01:02:44.740 Since 2020, Rowling's status as a celebrated liberal and literary icon has taken a nosedive

01:02:49.880 because of tweets and references that supporters of trans rights view as transphobic,

01:02:54.220 but that Rowling says are merely trying to protect women and girls.

01:02:57.480 You might have seen a recent column written by a British writer named E.J. Rosetta.

01:03:01.960 Rosetta claimed to have been assigned a piece called

01:03:03.980 20 Transphobic J.K. Rowling Quotes We're Done With,

01:03:07.500 but said that after months of research, she hadn't been able to find a single one.

01:03:11.100 Rowling, according to Rosetta, was saying,

01:03:12.980 There truly is the whole issue in a nutshell.

01:03:19.300 If your bar for bigotry requires Rowling to say out loud, 0.80

01:03:23.060 I hate trans people, then that bar will never be cleared. 1.00

01:03:26.260 Even if Rowling feels that way, I doubt she'd ever say it that way. 0.99

01:03:29.340 Even conservative pundits know not to say it that way.

01:03:32.260 There is simply nothing to be strategically gained by uttering such an obviously prejudiced sentence.

01:03:36.820 So, is J.K. Rowling transphobic, then?

01:03:40.760 Well, Monica goes on, and on and on and on. 1.00

01:03:43.520 Back to the article, she says,

01:03:45.340 Is J.K. Rowling transphobic?

01:03:47.340 Journalism is a business for sticklers.

01:03:49.120 Reporters are discouraged from calling anyone transphobic or homophobic or racist.

01:03:53.180 But they are.

01:03:53.960 They're discouraged from doing that.

01:03:55.340 That's literally all they do.

01:03:57.920 Anyway, because doing so requires knowing what's in their hearts,

01:04:01.080 when the only thing we can know with certainty is what comes out of their mouths.

01:04:03.460 So, what I can say is that what comes out of her mouth, or goes onto her Twitter account,

01:04:08.140 has a fuzzy aura of harmful rhetoric.

01:04:11.020 Rowling might indeed believe that she has transgender friends,

01:04:14.000 but taken as a whole, her body of communication on the issue,

01:04:16.840 such as the things she chooses to retweet and the provocative language she uses while doing so, 0.99

01:04:21.280 cumulatively, it sucks. 0.56

01:04:23.600 I do not know what is in Rowling's heart, but reading her Twitter feed, this is the overall effect. 0.97

01:04:28.120 Her Twitter feed does not ask its readers to think.

01:04:30.500 It asks them to fear.

01:04:32.100 It creates phobias of trans people. 0.98

01:04:34.720 It creates transphobias.

01:04:37.920 Okay, so translation.

01:04:40.180 All that J.K. Rowling has ever done when it comes to this issue

01:04:42.640 is simply assert the existence of biological reality.

01:04:46.860 Monica Hess cannot coherently explain why that is bigoted or transphobic

01:04:51.880 to simply believe in reality.

01:04:54.560 Why is that bigot?

01:04:55.220 She can't explain it.

01:04:56.600 But she's just sure that it is.

01:04:58.380 Even if Rowling's statements aren't hateful,

01:05:02.720 they still have the fuzzy aura of harmful rhetoric.

01:05:05.860 There's the aura there.

01:05:06.820 You have to watch out for the fuzzy aura, she's saying.

01:05:10.500 And this all goes to show, of course,

01:05:12.280 that literally anyone who contradicts the leftist doctrine on any topic,

01:05:17.940 especially this one, but not just this one,

01:05:20.280 will be accused of hate and bigotry

01:05:22.220 and branded as dangerous

01:05:23.620 and as a violent threat to the lives of marginalized people, etc.

01:05:27.000 This will happen.

01:05:29.700 There is no way of disagreeing with these people.

01:05:32.940 There is no way of presenting your arguments that will not lead to this conclusion.

01:05:38.820 Even if you carefully avoid saying anything that could reasonably be construed as bigoted,

01:05:43.880 it doesn't matter because these people are not concerned about reasons

01:05:46.860 and they are not reasonable.

01:05:48.360 You can avoid blunt and harsh language.

01:05:51.060 You can do all that.

01:05:53.580 But even then, you will still give off the fuzzy aura of bigotry.

01:05:59.440 Which is all the more reason to never spend even one second worried about what labels these people put on you.

01:06:07.820 There is no sense in trying to couch your rhetoric or soft pedal it

01:06:12.100 because we are all raging bigots the moment we walk outside of the box.

01:06:17.920 Remember, there's the box that they have set up for us.

01:06:20.340 They want everybody in it.

01:06:21.700 If you walk outside of it, that's it.

01:06:25.400 Our existence is an affront to people like Monica Hess. 0.98

01:06:28.540 And, of course, it's also very exhausting.

01:06:33.140 But it's not exhausting for me to say that Monica Hess and the Washington Post are,

01:06:38.380 for all these reasons, today, canceled.

01:06:41.760 That will do it for the show today.

01:06:43.520 And we'll talk to you tomorrow.

01:06:44.720 Have a great day.

01:06:45.520 Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - March 08, 2023

Ep. 1127 - Daily Wire Employee Quits Because Of My ‘Divisive’ Rhetoric

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