Ep. 1131 - Media Panics Over 'Dangerous' Trad Wife Trend
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Summary
The media is warning about a dangerous and perverse new trend that has taken over TikTok. It s called Being a Stay-Home Mom, and it s very scary stuff, at least as far as the left is concerned. Also, journalists have managed to dig up some shocking dirt on Ron DeSantis. Turns out, he has bad table manners. Which is a big deal. Plus, are UFOs landing on military bases and using their alien energy to give people traumatic brain injuries? The answer is yes, they are.
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Today on The Matt Walsh Show, the media is warning about a dangerous and perverse new
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trend that has taken over TikTok. It's called being a stay-at-home mom. Very scary stuff,
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at least as far as the left is concerned. Also, journalists have managed to dig up some shocking
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dirt on Ron DeSantis. Turns out that he has bad table manners, which is a big deal, I guess.
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Plus, are UFOs landing on military bases and using their alien energy to give people traumatic brain
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injuries? The answer is yes, they are, but we'll talk about it. In our daily cancellation, we will
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tackle what may ultimately go down as the dumbest internet outrage of the year. All of that and more
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Recently, our cultural authority figures, the people who decide what we're supposed to think and what
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we're supposed to do and what our values and goals and aspirations are supposed to be,
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have become very alarmed by a perverse and dangerous new trend among young women in particular.
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Of course, I'm not talking about the trend where young women have their breasts removed and then
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start injecting themselves with testosterone so that their hair falls out and they grow beards and
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they become infertile. The gatekeepers are not concerned about that trend at all. If anything,
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they're worried that the trend isn't even more popular than it already is. No, instead,
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they're deeply worried about women who choose the so-called trad wife lifestyle. Over the past
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couple of years, a growing number of women have started posting TikTok videos describing and
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documenting their day-to-day existence as trad wives, quote unquote. What is a trad wife? Well,
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she is a woman who stays home to take care of the house, takes care of the children while her husband
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goes to work. She does most of the cooking and the cleaning. She handles the lion's share of the
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domestic labor while relying on her husband to be the provider and breadwinner. In other words,
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she is just a normal woman doing what many millions of other normal women have done before her,
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which is why my only objection really to the trad wife trend is that we're calling it a trend
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and we're giving it a cutesy name and a hashtag. That's my only problem with it. My wife would fit
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the description of a quote unquote trad wife, but not because she's taking part in a TikTok trend.
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We've been living this way for 10 years and I wouldn't really call it a lifestyle either,
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but rather a system that works for us just as it has worked for the majority of families
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all over the world since the dawn of human civilization, even before the industrial age
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and the advent of the modern nine to five job. Before that, the phrase or the term stay-at-home mom
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didn't exist. Still, even then, most families featured a man who would go out,
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whether to the fields to farm or the forest to hunt or later to the office to earn a paycheck,
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and a woman who stays in the home to care for the children. This is a very standard arrangement.
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The women on TikTok aren't inventing a trend, but rather they're partaking in a way of life that is
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ancient and enduring and battle-tested. But that's not how the left sees it. As an article on foxnews.com
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Donning elaborate dresses, fastening an apron around their waist, and popping in their finest
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pearl earrings, or at least some iteration of pearls, for another round of household chores or
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cooking, more and more young women are following in the footsteps of the quintessential mid-century
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housewife thanks to the latest TikTok trend. But while some women are eager to shirk all the hustle
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and bustle of today's corporate world and channel Barbara Billingsley as June Cleaver,
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others are none too happy with the trend. Quote,
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The new trend for submissive women has a dark heart in history, reads one headline from The Guardian.
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An article from Hype Bay slapped the videos as disturbing, writing that they, quote,
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typically feature a cis-straight white woman longing for the 50s, an era where some women could opt out
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of participating in the corporate working world and be stay-at-home mothers instead.
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And a third from Grazia Magazine accused the trend of, quote,
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Romanticizing an era where sexism and racism ruled.
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We can also add a recent CNN article which calls trad wives, otherwise known as housewives or
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stay-at-home moms, a, quote, fringe subculture. Meanwhile, a piece by Insider says that many of
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these women are promoting white supremacist views. This was the argument made this week in a video by
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a left-wing media organization called Novara Media. A woman named Ash Sakhar argues that trad wives are
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really just agents of a far-right political agenda. Here she is.
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Though the idea of women being confined to the home while men do things like go outside and work
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isn't exactly new, the image of 1950s suburban domesticity has been given a new lease of life
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Can you imagine me, the wife of that boorish, painless madame?
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Some younger millennials and zoomers have decided to embrace living la vida casserole,
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dedicating themselves to cooking, cleaning and child rearing while their husbands or boyfriends,
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I don't know, chop firewood or go to their job in human resources. And look, I'm not saying
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there's anything inherently degrading about being a mom or making nice meals. I like cooking elaborate
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dinners. For that matter, my boyfriend does too. But the trad wife trend isn't just a way to talk
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about the experience of being a woman and doing domestic labor. It's saying that being a woman
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or expressing your femininity most fully means doing all the domestic labor. Men and women are
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meant to have rigidly distinct roles in the home, in their relationships and crucially in economic
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activity. So this isn't just about personal choice or individual preferences. It's advancing a right-wing
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political ideology and dressing it up as a lifestyle. So why is this important? Three things.
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These women are often really young, in their twenties, and they're preaching the values of
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submitting to a husband to an audience of other young women. The trad wife trend doesn't exist in
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isolation. It's linked to deeply regressive political and social movements such as Christian
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and white nationalism and anti-feminism. Feminism is an ideology which cannot be defended
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by feminists. It's part of a wider shift of young people being dissatisfied with neoliberalism
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and wanting social change. Well, she's right about that last point. Not any of the rest of it,
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but the last point anyway. But before we flesh that out, let's consider a few other points.
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First, you see how stigmatization is perhaps the left's most common and useful tool. Always has been.
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I mean, even as they claim that they want people to be free to live their lives without judgment,
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the truth is that they have a very rigid idea about what sorts of lifestyles should be embraced.
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And the standard is very simple, actually. It's not complicated. We should celebrate any and all
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lifestyles that would not be traditionally considered normal. Okay? That's the one rule. So live how you want,
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just don't be normal. That's why they use a term like fringe subculture to describe a
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housewife in an apron who would, you know, but they would never put such a label on a man in a wig
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and a skirt standing up to pee in the women's restroom. He's not part of a fringe subculture.
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Instead, a 25-year-old woman with two kids and a husband baking a casserole. She's the fringe
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weirdo, the degenerate pervert. Now, if that same woman was doing all the same things, but happened to
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actually be a man, then she, or he in this case, would be revered as a bold and powerful woman
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daring to live her life as she wishes. The problem with the actual real woman living this way is that
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she, again, is normal. And while they shame normalcy as perverse and they treat perversion as normal,
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they somehow have succeeded in convincing many conservatives to not respond in kind,
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as we should. So they will openly call stay-at-home moms a fringe subculture while insisting that we
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must never use such language to describe lifestyles that are actually degenerate. And again, many
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conservatives willingly play along with this. They willingly play by this rule. The left accuses the
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trad wife of engaging in a political act. But the truth is that, you know, what they're really angry
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about is they're angry that she isn't engaging in a political act. She's simply living in a way that
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is healthy and traditional, and she's prioritizing her family. She is not turning her entire existence
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into a political statement. She is focused on things deeper and more meaningful than that.
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And that is what infuriates them. Remember that these are people who've structured their whole lives
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around opposing traditional values. They're not even pursuing happiness or fulfillment or meaning.
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They'll settle for misery so long as their misery is a protest against the value systems they despise.
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Except that, ultimately, their misery only confirms and supports that very same value system.
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And that's where the woman in the video had it right, I think. People are deeply dissatisfied
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with the life that leftism has given them. These so-called trad wives, they grew up in a society
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that told them that men and women are the same, that we ought to have exactly identical roles in
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society, that it's demeaning, it's oppressive to prioritize raising children and caring for your
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family, that fulfillment is found in serving your boss rather than your spouse, that a strong and
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independent woman is one who depends on her employer rather than her husband.
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And they were raised in a culture that takes all of these ideas for granted.
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They were socialized and conditioned to accept them as gospel truth. And many of them did for a time.
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And then discovered that it was all a lie. You know, the most basic problem with leftism is that
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it is just hollow at its core. It doesn't have an answer, or at least not a satisfying answer,
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to the question of why we're here on this earth and what we're supposed to be doing with our time.
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This ambiguity, this lack of answers is presented to us as freedom, but it's the freedom of being
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lost in the woods, the freedom of having no idea where to go or why. That's not freedom, that's
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abandonment. And this is what has happened to multiple generations of Americans. They've been brought
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down a path with promises of happiness and fulfillment around the corner, and then they were just left
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there, abandoned. This is the source of much of the epidemic of despair, what we now call depression
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in our society. It stems from this, not from mental illness, but from this, that you have generated
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millions of Americans that were led down a path. They said, well, come this way. Don't go that way.
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Okay, that's the way that all of your ancestors went. That's the way that people for thousands of
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years went. Don't go that way. Come this way instead. And all these people listened. They said,
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okay, I'll go that way. And then one day they looked around and they said, well, where are we exactly?
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What's the point of this? Where were you taking us? We're just lost here now. We're stuck.
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So the people who are returning to traditional lives, who are making the radical decision to
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focus on their families and their marriages and so on, these are people simply deciding to live with
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some sense of direction, to live with meaning. Okay, that's what they're doing. They're not making
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some white supremacist radical political statement. They are reclaiming meaning in their lives.
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Well, one thing is clear. It's been clear for a long time. The media is terrified of Ron DeSantis
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and of his candidacy, his potential candidacy for president. Ultimately, they hate DeSantis more than
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they hate Trump. And I've been saying that for a while. And the reason is that they recognize
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that Ron DeSantis is effective at wielding state power to advance a conservative agenda. He's done
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that in Florida. He's able to do that. He's willing to do it. He knows how to do it. That's something
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that Trump never learned how to do. He didn't. And so Ron DeSantis is a greater threat to them.
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And it's also why we've seen the personal hit pieces and the rumor mongering pickup steam recently.
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Um, it's, uh, but, but it turns out that Ron DeSantis is, I guess, squeaky clean and his closets
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are free of all skeletons because the stuff they're coming up with to hit him with it's, it's, um,
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well, it's not exactly earth shattering. We can say that. And most of it just makes me like him even
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more. So for example, a few days ago, reports were circulating that Ron DeSantis, um, wasn't,
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he was in Congress, of course, before he became a governor of Florida and reports were circulating
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that he wasn't well liked by his Republican colleagues when he was in Congress. And, uh,
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he didn't make a lot of friends and he wasn't invited to the parties and he didn't hang out
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with them. He was kind of a loner. He was on his own. Uh, there was, there was one quote saying he
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didn't seem to like being in DC. He didn't even want to be there. And this is supposed to make us
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like him less somehow, which I'm trying to figure out how that works, because that's exactly what I
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want to hear. The last thing I want to hear is that, um, is that someone who loves being in DC,
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loves the environment, is making tons of friends. That's who we don't want in the White House.
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So that just makes me like him more. And then there's this from media. This is the latest. This
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was the big, uh, expose that was published yesterday, not by media, but by the Daily
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Beast. And they are reporting on that. A new report on Florida Governor Ron DeSantis provided
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further detail on his well-documented struggles with personal public engagement, a quirk that
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reportedly includes unorthodox table manners. A new Daily Beast report on DeSantis, which comes
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amid ongoing speculation about his 2024 ambitions, tackled concerns about his aloof persona, aversion to
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public interactions, and the distance he keeps from voters and reporters alike. The reporting
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on the governor's personality and social graces delved into unflattering stories that the Beast
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uncovered about him from over the years, namely his propensity to devour food during meetings.
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From the article, quote, he would sit in meetings and eat in front of people, a former DeSantis
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staffer told the Daily Beast, always like a starving animal who's never eaten before, getting
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everywhere. I assume they mean getting food everywhere, not literally getting everywhere.
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Um, I mean, if that was happening, then I would agree that it's a problem.
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Enshrined in DeSantis' lore is an episode from four years ago. During a private plane trip from
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Tallahassee to Washington, D.C. in March of 2019, DeSantis enjoyed a chocolate pudding dessert by eating
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it with three of his fingers, according to two sources familiar with the incident.
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Representative for DeSantis' political team did not return a request for comment on it.
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I can't imagine why not. They have reporters beating down their door asking for comment on
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a report that he ate pudding with his fingers. I'm surprised to, you know, this is the kind of
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thing we need to, uh, we need a, an official public statement. We need a press conference.
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We need all of that. So they actually talked to two sources, multiple sources to confirm that
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four years ago, Ron DeSantis ate pudding with his fingers. And this is what they come up with.
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And this is the, like, we can assume, right? We can assume that if they had better stuff than this,
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they'd be telling us. They've been, they've been, uh, digging through his personal life.
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They've been talking to anyone who will talk to them. They've been interviewing sources.
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Okay. They're looking for juicy material about this guy. And the best they can do is that he has bad
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table manners and that he's, he's not a people person. Doesn't make a lot of friends.
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Now, as far as eating pudding with your fingers, um, you know, most of the time I would agree that's,
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that is, that's uncouth. But also what else are you supposed to do if you don't have a spoon? And
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I, and that's some of the details. If you're going to have this whole report about how he eats pudding,
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then I think we need more details about why was he eating the pudding with your fingers? What was
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there a spoon or some other utensil available on the flight? And if there wasn't, then what else are
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you supposed to do? I ask you this. Okay. You're in a situation where you have pudding, you know,
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maybe someone hands you chocolate pudding, you ask for a spoon and they tell you, we don't have a
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spoon. And you say, well, you do, you at least have a fork. I could maybe make that work. They
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say, we don't have a fork. What are you going to do in that situation? Are you going to not eat the
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pudding? Are you going to say to yourself, well, I have this delicious pudding here. I'm just not
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going to eat it. I mean, give me a break. Let's be serious about this. And, uh, in a situation like
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that, you do what you have to do. What, you know what this tells me? This tells me that,
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that Ron DeSantis is a man who's not afraid to get his hands dirty, uh, not afraid to do what
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needs to be done in the moment to get the job done. And that's what I like about him is that
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he gets the job done. You work with what you have and you make it happen. And that's what he did with
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this pudding. And so I see it as a, uh, really a microcosm of what makes him an effective governor
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in the first place. I would argue all the rest of it. I don't care. Look, this, this whole thing,
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they've been doing this for years where they, um, they want the litmus test for a politician,
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a president to be, would you want to sit down and have a beer with this person? Would you want to be
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their friend? I don't give a crap about that. I don't need to feel like now it just so happens that,
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uh, I think I could sit down and have a beer with Ron DeSantis and enjoy a conversation with him,
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but, um, but who cares that I don't need to feel like, well, what are we a bunch of children?
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Okay. Don't answer that because many voters, that is how we, we act or a bunch of children.
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We need to, we need to feel like someone running for president can be our friend. Would he be my
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friend? Who cares? So he doesn't make friends. He's not a personable person. Why does that matter?
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I don't need that. I don't need you to be friendly. I don't need you to make friends. Um,
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I don't need you to be a fun guy to hang out with because I'm not hanging out with you. I need you to
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know how to govern. And I need you to understand how to wield power effectively and in the right way
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for the right ends. That's what I need. And you know what? It turns out that, that many of the people
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who fall into that category are, you know, effective leaders. They know how to wield power,
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um, all those kinds of things. Like often, oftentimes that they're not the most fun to
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hang out with. It's like a certain, it's a certain personality type, a certain sort of person is good
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in that role. And often it's not the kind of person that you would want to like sit down and
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have a beer with. Sometimes the two line up, but it doesn't matter if they do. Um, so what do we
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learn from this? All we learn is just make sure that like, just make sure Ron DeSantis has a spoon
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on hand. That's all. I'm pretty sure there are many spoons in the white house. So if you're worried
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about this, if you're worried about having a, uh, a, a man in the white house that eats pudding with
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his fingers, just remember that they have spoons in the white house. I think I'm pretty sure they
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probably have a lot of them. So this, this should not be an offense that's repeated. Um, well,
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it comes to the current occupants of the white house. If you want to know how stupid they are,
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uh, here's a, here's a good example. Last week, the house and Senate both unanimously passed a bill
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to declassify all the intelligence around the origins of COVID. And this was a unanimous house
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and Senate. It was zero, no votes. Um, I think there were a couple of people that were voted absent or,
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you know, not present, but, uh, it was, there was no, it was, it was a, nope, nobody voted against it.
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Unanimous vote. And I usually say that bipartisan bills are the worst kinds of bills because legislation
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has to be pretty uniquely terrible to attract the support of both parties, but there are exceptions
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to every rule. And so this is one, obviously they should declassify whatever information they have.
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Uh, even if they do declassify it, I'm not going to believe that they really declassified all of it,
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but still in theory, this is the right thing to do, obviously. Um, now I'm not going to give them
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much credit for voting for this. They all have reelections or most of them have reelections that
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they have to worry about. And they don't want to be on the record as being in the minority opposed
00:23:33.640
to transparency when it comes to the origins of COVID. So they really had no choice but to vote in
00:23:38.880
favor of it. Um, and they all did legislation goes to Biden's desk a week later, he still has not
00:23:48.800
signed or even decided what he's going to do with it. And Karen Jean pair was asked about this at the
00:23:53.560
white house yesterday. Let's hear what she said. I wondered if you do have an answer now as to whether
00:23:58.620
or not the president will sign the COVID origins intelligence bill that was announced. So it's,
00:24:04.960
uh, so we are, thank you for the question. I know I was asked about it, I believe on the plane,
00:24:09.120
uh, on Monday, as you just mentioned. So we're looking at it. Uh, we have continued to share
00:24:13.360
information with members of Congress. And as you know, just months after the president came into
00:24:17.620
office, he asked his intelligence community to double down and to take a look of the, of, uh,
00:24:23.420
the origins of the COVID origins, because we believe it's important to get to the bottom of this
00:24:28.320
and to get, and also if, uh, once we have, uh, once the intelligence community has made the,
00:24:33.660
made the assessments, clearly we would share that with the public as it relates to the legislation.
00:24:37.900
We're going to continue to take, we're going to take a look at it and certainly we'll have more
00:24:41.280
to share. We haven't made a decision whether we're just taking a look. We're taking a look into the,
00:24:46.420
uh, into the bill. Just taking a look at it. This is, this is, uh, it should be an easy slam dunk.
00:24:52.960
You don't, you need to spend, uh, first of all, they pass and sign legislation all the time
00:24:59.020
without reading it. So since when do they care about that? This should be, um, I don't know,
00:25:02.560
think about it for half an hour and then sign it. There's nothing really to think about.
00:25:06.760
Yes, obviously the, the public has the right to know everything there is to know about the origins
00:25:12.040
of COVID, but also from a political perspective, you don't have a choice. This is unanimous.
00:25:18.760
It takes two thirds of a vote. Um, it's a, it's a two third vote to override a presidential veto.
00:25:23.120
So even if he did make the politically suicidal decision to, to veto it, it's going to happen anyway.
00:25:28.640
So you might as well just take the win, even if, if Biden would prefer not to declassify
00:25:35.280
because he doesn't want to upset China. Um, you have no choice. So you might as well say,
00:25:39.400
well, yes, absolutely. Of course we're going to sign this right away. We can, this administration
00:25:44.240
cares deeply about transparency. That's going to be the result anyway. So you, from a political
00:25:50.240
perspective, you take ownership of it and pretend that it's what you wanted to do.
00:25:55.080
Um, but these people are so stupid. They don't even understand that. I don't know why I'm giving
00:26:00.820
political advice to the Biden administration, not that they'll listen to it anyway. Um, all right,
00:26:06.360
we'll go here in Kentucky, representative Jerry Miller is a former Republican, now Democrat,
00:26:12.400
and he testified against a bill that would ban gender transitions for minors. And here's the, um,
00:26:19.860
the story that he told to explain his position as a grandfather of two girls. I was thrilled to
00:26:27.500
learn my daughter was pregnant with a boy. I thought of all the things we would do together,
00:26:31.720
like playing ball. Uh, that's just not been my reality. Uh, as a toddler, he wasn't interested in
00:26:37.700
balls. He has, uh, she has, uh, focused on, uh, dolls, not balls. He started dressing a girl like
00:26:49.200
a girl, mainly princess dresses, uh, at age three at home. Uh, my, his mother tried to dissuade him
00:26:57.020
from doing so at age four. My intuitive wife asked the dress chair wearing child if he didn't like being
00:27:02.760
a boy. His response was, quote, inside, I feel like a girl, close quote. My wife accepted that Jonah was
00:27:10.660
different well before I did. I thought it was because he had an older sister that he was competing
00:27:14.820
with. I hoped he would grow out of it, but that has not happened. I still screw up the pronoun thing,
00:27:21.540
uh, but regardless of anything, I'm going to love my grandchild and fight for what I think is best for
00:27:27.880
Jonah. For that reason, um, I urge you to vote against that. Uh, Kentucky constitution, uh, says
00:27:36.840
that we should seek, uh, section one says we are able to seek and pursue safety and happiness.
00:27:42.520
And I ask you, where's Kentucky's compelling government interest, um, in not letting a parent
00:27:48.580
protect their own children's safety and happiness?
00:27:51.140
What a pathetic excuse for a man. I mean, it's no wonder he supports castration. This is a castrated
00:28:00.220
man himself. Uh, whether literally, I don't know, but certainly metaphorically just a completely
00:28:08.440
ballless, pathetic, nothing of a man sitting there saying, I'm going to love my grandchild. No,
00:28:16.180
you don't love him. Actually, you do not love him. You might tell yourself that you do, but you don't.
00:28:21.140
Um, there, there are things that you love a lot more than your grandchild going along with the
00:28:26.420
culture, uh, taking a politically popular position. You know, those things you value a lot more than
00:28:31.400
you do your grandson, because if you loved your grandson, you would fight for, for him and for
00:28:39.420
his wellbeing. And you would, uh, you would do everything you can to protect him from the abuse
00:28:45.560
that he is being subjected to right now. And we, we hear the, the, it's all, it's always the same
00:28:51.800
story. It is always, some of the times that we heard these stories, it's always the same story.
00:28:57.120
Okay. All we've, we've a million times we hear the story about the, uh, the child, the very young
00:29:02.880
child who quote unquote comes out as trans or reveals their true identity, uh, supposedly.
00:29:09.420
And we, we never hear, like, you never hear anything that kind of blows your mind and is,
00:29:17.840
and makes you go, well, wow, you know, maybe that person, maybe that boy really, uh, maybe it really
00:29:22.520
is a girl stuck in a boy's body. Well, I've never heard of anything like that. You never hear any
00:29:26.420
detail. I don't know what that detail would even sound like. I mean, really, there's nothing you
00:29:29.660
could say that would, that would make me accept the proposition that a boy is really a girl because
00:29:35.020
that's a logical contradiction. It doesn't make any sense. There's no way to accept it.
00:29:39.720
But my point is that the story that they tell us always just, oh, it was a boy and he liked to wear
00:29:44.840
dresses when he was two years old. And that's what persuades you that, um, we need to radically alter
00:29:53.440
the very course of life. That's what persuades you that something, that's what persuades you that,
00:29:57.780
that everything you thought you knew about reality itself is wrong because that's what he's actually
00:30:04.060
telling us. What he's telling us is that it turns out that this boy who's a boy in every way is
00:30:11.300
really a girl somehow. Can't explain that. They never explained that. They never tried to explain
00:30:16.020
that. But in order to accept that you would have to first abandon everything you thought you knew
00:30:22.280
about reality, about biology, about everything, everything out the window. And what caused you
00:30:28.100
to radically and fundamentally alter your very perception of reality that a two-year-old boy put
00:30:36.000
a dress on because he was allowed to by his parents? That a two-year-old boy thought that a sparkly thing
00:30:42.480
was pretty? That's what caused you to say, well, maybe everything I think about the world is wrong,
00:30:48.020
it turns out. Um, but I just don't, I don't believe that he's that stupid. And maybe people are, you
00:30:57.640
know, maybe I've, maybe I have severely overestimated the intelligence of most people. But when I hear
00:31:04.120
stories like that, I think there's no way the guy is that stupid. He cannot be that stupid.
00:31:10.240
No, he's going along. He, he knows better, but he's going along with it, which makes it even worse.
00:31:19.520
All right. Um, this video is making the rounds. It's actually from several years ago and it's from
00:31:25.680
an episode of, uh, the price is right. And it's a certain contestant appeared on this show a few
00:31:32.560
years ago and, uh, you may recognize him. Let's watch. You get to spin the wheel, but guess what?
00:31:39.840
You get a second chance in this game first. So, you know, two prices already, which is a great
00:31:47.360
thing. 399 and 599. Which one do you want to keep? I'm going to keep the 599. 599. Something
00:31:54.360
else up here is $5 and 99 cents. You can tell me what it is. You get everything. I'm going to say
00:32:00.040
the soup. Soup. 599. It's pretty fancy. It is. Yes. You got it. Dylan's a winner. Dylan's a winner.
00:32:12.520
Dylan, nice job, man. Look at that. Uh, we're going to spin the wheel right after this. Don't go away,
00:32:19.020
folks. My God. Imagine being the father. Imagine being a dad and you're told that, you know, your
00:32:33.660
son's going to be on price is right. And you sit down and you have a beer and you sit down to watch
00:32:37.960
when price is right. And this is what you see. Imagine seeing your son. I don't know how you go.
00:32:46.240
I don't know how you move on after that. Well, but of course, Dylan. All right. Turn it off,
00:32:55.320
please. Turn. Uh, of course, if Dylan Mulvaney's father thought that this was the worst embarrassment
00:33:02.200
he was ever going to suffer, he had, he was in for a rude awakening as time went on. Now the point
00:33:06.160
here though, is that was a couple of things. First of all, this guy has been starved for
00:33:09.720
attention, you know, for a long time, uh, has been, uh, begging for attention. That's what,
00:33:15.000
that's what all this is about anyway, but also his, you, you note how his performance as a woman,
00:33:24.140
his performance as a woman, as a quote unquote is identical to his performance as a flamboyant
00:33:30.880
homosexual on price is right. And this is a performance as well. Cause like no, no human
00:33:36.920
being actually acts like that in real life. So this is a before, but it's like, it's a,
00:33:42.000
it's an affect that he's putting on. Um, but it's exactly the same because that's all that a woman is
00:33:50.400
to the left. That's the left's vision of womanhood. That's all a woman is a woman is a flamboyant gay
00:33:55.940
man in a dress. So you've got flamboyant gay man. And then you, and then you take that same
00:34:00.620
flamboyant gay man, change nothing about him, put a dress on him. That's a woman.
00:34:07.480
That is truly how they see it. Um, okay. We're, uh, moving on quickly. Cause there's
00:34:15.000
several other things we need to talk about, including, okay, we're going to get right to
00:34:18.460
this cause this is the most important. And if I don't mention it now, we might not have time for it.
00:34:22.740
Um, we'll start with the New York post. Pentagon officials said in a draft document last week that
00:34:29.140
aliens could be visiting our solar system and releasing smaller probes, um, uh, missions that
00:34:36.000
are conducted, uh, hold on a second, releasing smaller probes, like missions conducted by NASA
00:34:40.940
when studying other planets. Uh, a draft research report authored by Sean Kirkpatrick, the director
00:34:47.900
of the Pentagon's all domain anomaly resolution office and Abraham Loeb, chairman of the Harvard
00:34:54.180
university's astronomy department was released on March 7th and focuses on the physical constraints
00:34:58.420
of unidentified aerial phenomena. The report read quote, an artificial interstellar object could
00:35:04.960
potentially be a parent craft that releases many small probes during its close passage to earth
00:35:09.980
an operational construct, not too dissimilar from NASA missions. These dandelion seeds could be
00:35:16.360
separated from the parent craft by the title gravitational force of the sun or by a maneuvering
00:35:21.520
capability. The AARO was published in July, 20, 2022, and is responsible for tracking objects in the
00:35:28.740
sky, underwater and in space, or possibly an object that has the ability to move from one domain to the
00:35:33.840
next. Congress tasked NASA to find 90% of all objects near earth that are larger than 140 meters in
00:35:39.800
2005, which resulted in Pan-STARRS telescopes, according to the report. Um, on October 19th,
00:35:48.180
2017, the Pan-STARRS detected an unusual interstellar object that was later named, I never know how to
00:35:54.660
pronounce this or any other word, uh, Uumuamu, we'll just call it O, or, uh, or Scout in Hawaiian. Okay,
00:36:02.400
we'll call it Scout. The object was cigar-shaped, appeared flat, and was propelled away from the sun
00:36:06.960
without showing a commentary tail, leading scientists to believe it was artificial.
00:36:11.960
So this was, um, yes, and then there are images you can see of this, but it's, uh, just a long,
00:36:18.280
flat, it looks like a long, this is, it looks like a cigar. It looks like a long, flat object
00:36:21.780
that, uh, we know is interstellar, and there are some scientists who think that it might be,
00:36:27.400
they don't know exactly, but it might be artificial. It might be some kind of, uh, you know,
00:36:31.420
alien technology. It could be a piece of something that broke off. Who knows?
00:36:36.960
But this is what scientists are now speculating about, that maybe, and this would explain,
00:36:41.960
uh, some of what we see in the skies, some of what military pilots have seen, the Navy pilots,
00:36:47.360
um, where you've got these small, which seem to be vehicles that are moving around in odd ways,
00:36:52.980
and they don't seem to be propelled by their, there's no propulsion device that we can see
00:36:56.860
that's noticeable to us. And so maybe these are probes that are being sent from a larger craft,
00:37:01.280
sent down to check out Earth, and then they go back to the parent craft and, uh, go on their way.
00:37:07.720
It's a possible theory, but you have scientists who are speculating about this.
00:37:12.720
Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson was recently on a podcast and had a really interesting conversation about
00:37:17.200
UFOs. The whole conversation is 10 minutes long, and I debated playing the entire thing on this show,
00:37:22.280
but, uh, I thought that might be pressing it a little bit. So instead we have,
00:37:25.520
it's still kind of long, it's about two and a half minutes, but it's an interesting story,
00:37:29.180
um, and with a little bit of a firsthand account here from Tucker Carlson, uh, just go ahead and
00:37:35.800
listen. The Pentagon was required by the last defense authorization bill to, like, produce some
00:37:41.400
of their files on UFOs, and it turns out they have known about this since the end of the Second
00:37:45.720
World War, which ended in 1945. Been a huge increase during that war, during the war as well.
00:37:52.300
Huge increase in UFO sightings, in UFO crashes, et cetera, et cetera. And it turns out the federal
00:38:00.100
government has been tracking this for 80 years and lying about it. So why? Well, that's a great
00:38:04.540
question, and I can't answer it. I have theories, but I don't know. But here's what I learned.
00:38:09.440
Just to, the first question is, is this real? Or am I just being a crazy person who's spending too
00:38:14.120
much time on the internet? Well, this summer we got a call. We didn't reach out. This person called us.
00:38:19.640
Lexi, who's standing right there, who's a genius, one of our producers, gets his call from this guy
00:38:24.120
who's a tenured Stanford medical school professor, and he wants to come on the show. Now, this guy
00:38:29.600
has a couple patents, and so he's rich. And he's got tenure at one of the most prestigious schools
00:38:34.820
in the world. So, like, he's not a flake. He comes on, and he's like, 11 years ago, the US
00:38:41.000
government reached out to me because I'm an expert on head injuries, on brain injuries, traumatic brain
00:38:46.520
injuries, as a physician. And they had all these court cases from families of US servicemen, over
00:38:52.220
100, who'd been killed by UFOs. And the Department of Defense was refusing to give them death benefits
00:38:59.500
or medical benefits. And I'm like, and he's like, so they were in the courts. And I was like, there
00:39:04.140
are over 100 servicemen killed by UFOs? Like, what? He's like, yeah. And there are court cases about it.
00:39:10.840
I'm like, why isn't this on the front page of the New York Times? I don't know. But he goes,
00:39:14.220
I'm involved in it. I'm the, you know, I'm one of the researchers. I'm the expert witness in these
00:39:17.360
cases. Holy shit. What does that mean? And he's like, for example, UFOs appear to be attracted
00:39:24.020
for whatever reason to nuclear energy. So, at nuclear missile bases in the upper Midwest,
00:39:29.800
for example, nuclear-powered aircraft carriers, nuclear-powered submarines are all getting buzzed
00:39:35.160
by these objects, including underwater. And in a number of cases, these things have landed
00:39:41.140
on military bases, including famously in Germany, in West Germany in the 70s.
00:39:45.640
And servicemen have approached them. Like, what is this thing? There's this like giant glowing thing
00:39:49.940
on the base. And they approach and they get traumatic brain injury. Like, they are rendered.
00:39:56.840
Yeah, yeah. They get brain damage. Or they're killed. And he studied their brains. And they have,
00:40:05.000
this is all totally real. This is not, this is the Department of Defense, dude. And they've all had
00:40:11.220
this damage from some kind of powerful energy that we cannot identify.
00:40:14.960
There it is. I mean, like I said, the whole conversation is interesting. It's about 10
00:40:20.360
minutes long. And he goes into talking about how, you know, most of the people that have
00:40:25.360
looked at this have, think that many of these objects actually are coming, not from the sky,
00:40:35.980
but coming out of the ocean. And that has also been observed. You know, sounds crazy, but that's,
00:40:41.840
we, there, there's actually video of that that has also been captured by pilots and, uh, and other
00:40:48.100
kinds of videos where you can see things. There's video where you've got objects that come out of the
00:40:53.200
ocean and then go fly up in the sky. Also video of objects going into the ocean at high rates of speed
00:40:58.200
and not exploding on contact. Um, so look, what are you going to do with this? If it's,
00:41:07.580
there's, there is a lot of evidence here and I know we joke about it a little bit, but that's,
00:41:12.880
that's the truth. There's a lot of evidence. Um, now, is it enough to absolutely confirm that,
00:41:19.320
uh, that some sort of beings from another, uh, solar system or galaxy have visited earth? No,
00:41:27.520
because there's a lot of details that we don't have. But even so, I mean, when you, when you start
00:41:31.900
thinking about, well, if it were true that there were, uh, you know, uh, there's an intelligent
00:41:39.520
civilization out there somewhere, maybe multiple, multiple intelligent civilizations that have sent,
00:41:44.220
um, whether manned or unmanned craft here, you think, well, if that were true, what kind of evidence
00:41:50.440
would we have of it? And, and, uh, you know, the skeptics will say, well, we don't have any of that
00:41:56.860
evidence. Well, actually we do though. We have a fair amount of it. We would have video. We got a
00:42:01.800
lot of video and it's not all now, you know, back in the sixties, if we were talking about UFOs,
00:42:07.100
you could say, well, all the video is grainy and all that. That's not true anymore. There's some
00:42:11.140
pretty compelling video, uh, and lots of it, not just a little bit. There's a lot of video evidence
00:42:16.940
of things that are flying around in the sky in ways that should not be possible.
00:42:22.880
Um, so we have that. We also now even have scientists and people that have worked in the
00:42:30.080
government going on the record and saying, this is what we've seen. This is what we're looking
00:42:35.720
into. This is what we've researched. Here's the physical evidence that we have. Tucker Carlson was
00:42:39.460
talking about people that have been suffered traumatic brain injuries because of contact with
00:42:43.820
things, strange things that have landed. And so that's all evidence. Does it confirm? No,
00:42:50.220
but it does mean that if you still are taking the position that no, no, none of this is, uh, this is,
00:42:55.960
none of this is alien in origin. That is actually an irrational position. It's an error. It's quite
00:43:00.840
irrational to say, to just definitively declare, as I hear many people do, um, uh, absolutely not
00:43:08.400
alien in origin. That's irrational because we, we, it's, it's just a fact that there is this evidence.
00:43:16.500
Um, and for you to take that position, you would have to just pretend it doesn't exist
00:43:23.660
or really it would have to be on your part. It would, it would be, it's a position grounded in
00:43:30.180
your assumption that there can't possibly be any other intelligent life in the universe.
00:43:37.540
And I think that is what really explained almost everyone who says, no, none of this is alien in
00:43:42.640
origin. It absolutely can't be almost all of them. They're saying that because they refuse to even
00:43:47.720
consider the possibility that there are any other intelligent beings in the universe. And that is
00:43:53.000
also an irrational position to take. It just is the universe is vast and is absolutely loaded with
00:43:59.940
things that we don't understand. And so to sit here and say, I know that this isn't out there.
00:44:06.320
I have seen none of the universe. Okay. I have seen none of it. I, I haven't even seen like,
00:44:11.920
it's not even a thimble compared to the ocean. Even that it's like a molecule of the ocean
00:44:17.320
compared to the entire ocean. I have seen that molecule. And because of that molecule,
00:44:21.880
I know for a fact that there is nothing else out there. Um, that's, that's basically what you're
00:44:28.960
declaring. And it is, it is irrational. So that's it. What are you going to do with the information?
00:44:34.140
Maybe it's scary for people to think about, but these things are happening. Nothing we can do
00:44:39.700
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is simply smarter wireless. All right. Happy St. Patrick's day, uh, by the way, very important
00:45:55.480
holiday for, um, rampant cultural appropriation. Uh, but it's the kind of cultural appropriation
00:46:01.240
you're allowed to do because you're appropriating from Irish people who are white. So it's okay.
00:46:06.480
Those are the rules. Remember you can celebrate Irish culture by getting drunk and wearing a shamrock
00:46:11.280
and, you know, drinking green beer and eating lucky charms. And you can put a pin on that says,
00:46:16.740
kiss me. I'm Irish. And all of that is fine. But if you wear a native American headdress on Halloween,
00:46:22.360
then that makes you a genocidal racist. Um, makes sense when you think about it.
00:46:30.360
I'm sorry. It makes sense when you don't think about it. Actually, some of this is our fault
00:46:35.100
though. I'll admit, I mean, ours and people of Irish ancestry because the squeaky wheel gets the
00:46:39.980
oil as they say. And, and, um, and we don't complain about the St. Patrick's day stuff because
00:46:45.300
we're not petty and ridiculous. And also we have a sense of humor. So it is, it is funny. We can laugh
00:46:50.520
about it. And speaking of having a sense of humor, I also want, and speaking of Ireland,
00:46:54.520
um, I, I finally watched a couple of nights ago, I watched the movie. This is a, maybe it's a good
00:46:59.540
movie to watch in St. Patrick's day. If you're looking for a St. Patrick's day movie, there's the,
00:47:02.700
uh, the, the, the film, uh, Banshees of Ennis Sheeran, which, uh, I think was, you know,
00:47:08.540
I think it won a couple of Academy Awards, who cares, but it was nominated for some stuff.
00:47:12.520
And, uh, I have to say based on the description of this film, I wasn't very excited about watching it,
00:47:18.200
but I, a couple of people that I, whose opinions I value recommended it. And so I decided to watch
00:47:24.040
it and I should have watched it, you know, when it first came out, I should have been first in line
00:47:29.900
to see this film at the, in the theaters because it, it resonated with me on such a deep and personal
00:47:35.700
level because the film, at least on the surface level, now there's a lot of symbolism going on and
00:47:40.400
all that, but, uh, plenty of metaphor, but on the surface, it is really a movie about a guy
00:47:47.820
Brendan Gleeson who hates small talk so much that he will chop off his own fingers to avoid it.
00:47:56.560
That's really the movie. He doesn't, he's tired of pointless small talk and he starts amputating
00:48:01.280
his own fingers in protest to try to get this other guy to stop talking to him because he finds
00:48:06.920
the conversation that uninteresting. And, uh, on that kind of surface level, I've, I've never found a
00:48:14.540
movie more relatable. It's like, it's two and a half hours of a guy trying to avoid small talk
00:48:20.140
and going to increasingly desperate lengths to avoid it. I found it to be, uh, quite powerful.
00:48:26.280
So something worth watching. All right. Uh, bad Mr. Frosty says, when you Google your name and the
00:48:33.040
whole cast of the daily wire is what comes up talking against you talking about Dylan. Now,
00:48:36.860
you know, it's time to subscribe to daily wire plus. Yeah. I mean, what's that, that maybe tells
00:48:42.140
you all you need to know. Dylan Mulvaney did his three 65 celebration and he wanted, uh, villains.
00:48:47.840
He wanted the villains for his, for his big show. And, uh, he chose the entire cast of the daily wire,
00:48:54.060
um, as the, as the villains and nobody else in, in conservative media was just us.
00:49:01.020
Um, Denise says, the best thing we could do is not repeat this individual's name ever and not share
00:49:09.100
its image across the media's vast ocean. We're talking again about Dylan Mulvaney and yeah, I, I,
00:49:15.740
I understand that argument. And, uh, but I would also say that that has been the conservative argument,
00:49:22.540
um, about all this stuff for years and it hasn't really worked out that way.
00:49:31.020
You know, I can remember back, think about when Bruce Jenner came out as Caitlyn Jenner
00:49:36.460
and was celebrated as woman of the year and all that. And when that happened back in whenever that
00:49:41.260
was in 2015 or something, and it was the same thing. I mean, I was talking about that and I was,
00:49:46.860
uh, I was very vocally opposed to Bruce Jenner being accepted by society as a woman. I was very opposed
00:49:55.580
to it. And what I heard from many conservatives was, well, let's just not give any attention
00:50:01.000
to this person. They just want attention. Let's not give them attention. And if we don't give
00:50:05.080
them attention, it'll go away. Well, how did that work out? Like how did that strategy of say, well,
00:50:11.180
let's not pay attention to this. Yeah. They're taking a man and celebrating him as a woman. Let's
00:50:15.400
not pay attention. It's a trend. It's there's attention starved. How did that work out for us?
00:50:21.560
Has that strategy of ignoring these sorts of things, has that proven to be effective?
00:50:27.240
Now, if, if we don't oppose this, okay, Dylan Mulvaney, he's, he is being taken, he's been
00:50:36.460
selected by the powers that be. As you know, there's a reason got all corporate sponsorships
00:50:40.900
and everything behind him. There's a reason why he could afford to throw a big bash at the
00:50:44.760
Rockefeller Center. Um, he's got money behind him from all these corporate sponsorships and everything
00:50:49.180
else. So they have taken the, the cultural elites, the cultural powers that be have taken this
00:50:53.700
guy and said, he's going to be our new mascot. Um, he's going to be our, our vehicle for,
00:50:59.200
you know, getting this stuff out into the masses and making it appealing and acceptable
00:51:03.420
and mainstreaming it. So if I don't talk about it and the other people at Daily Wire don't talk
00:51:09.540
about it and we decide to ignore it, do you think that like, what's going to happen? Do you think
00:51:14.360
all the corporate sponsorships are going to go away? Do you think the left's going to say,
00:51:18.800
oh, okay, we're not interested in it anymore? No, then, then he's just running unopposed.
00:51:24.520
No, then they will continue their campaign of normalizing this stuff and it will be a campaign
00:51:31.960
that runs unopposed. The campaign is happening regardless. Okay. It's like, it's like a,
00:51:40.500
think of an actual political campaign. Somebody's running for office. Are you going to stop him
00:51:44.820
from, um, being elected to the office by making sure that no one runs against him?
00:51:51.680
It's the same sort of thing. Uh, Mary Smith says, um, Matt, um, Matt, the issue is that women get
00:51:59.220
paid approximately 30% less than men doing the exact same job. I worked as a scientist in big
00:52:05.320
pharma and no one ever discusses salary, but after I left and compared salaries with former colleagues,
00:52:09.820
it was really infuriating to realize this was true. And by the way, I worked harder,
00:52:13.380
was smarter than my male counterparts, but I was not able to schmooze on golf courses,
00:52:18.440
shoot the shit over beers at their clubs or talk sports over lunch.
00:52:22.380
Male bonding goes a long way to determine compensation in corporate America. Well,
00:52:27.020
Mary, first of all, I'll tell you that you're, you're not the first person who, uh, feels as though
00:52:32.540
they're, they're being undercompensated at work or that they're more talented or, you know,
00:52:37.380
better qualified than colleagues who are making more money. Uh, this is a complaint of, I don't know,
00:52:42.980
maybe approximately 99% of all people in the working, in the workplace, men and women alike,
00:52:49.160
but it doesn't necessarily reflect the reality. Okay. So you think that you were better qualified,
00:52:58.840
you worked harder, you were more skilled than the people that were working, making more than you.
00:53:03.240
And in order to, um, explain that to yourself, like explain this disparity, you came up with this
00:53:09.540
story about sexism and how you weren't able to go to the golf course and all the rest of it.
00:53:14.320
Um, maybe that story is true, but there's no reason to assume that it is because it is, again,
00:53:23.180
it's a story that you've told yourself to explain why you made less money.
00:53:26.580
So rather than looking at antidote, anecdotes, let's look at the actual statistics
00:53:31.500
and the actual statistics are this, this is what the data says. Um, the 30%, you know, the women make
00:53:39.040
30, make 70 cents on the dollar. I think, I think now it's up to 82 cents. They say, um, so women make
00:53:44.580
82 cents on the, on the dollar for every man, for every dollar that a man earns. That statistic comes
00:53:50.080
from, as we've been talking about a, uh, just a one-to-one comparison grouping all women and all
00:53:56.680
men together and comparing their salaries, uh, without taking into account anything else. When
00:54:02.640
you don't control for any other factors, that's what you come up with. And so it is a meaningless
00:54:07.800
statistic. Now, when you actually do factor in, um, industry job type, hours worked experience level
00:54:18.600
over, you know, uh, over time, all that kind of stuff. When you factor all of that in, here's
00:54:24.340
what you come up with. And I'm getting this from the website, payscale.com. And they've, uh, they've
00:54:30.200
compiled all the information about this. And here's what they say. The controlled gender pay gap is
00:54:36.140
99 cents for every $1 a man makes. That's the pay gap. One penny between when, when we control for
00:54:45.920
all these factors, one penny between the woman and the man, which is to say the gender pay gap
00:54:52.380
doesn't exist because one penny is a rounding error. That is margin of error. It doesn't,
00:54:57.100
statistically, it doesn't exist. And this, by the way, this is from a source that is not a right-wing
00:55:03.280
source. Like they, they are reporting this, but then also claiming that, uh, there is still a gender
00:55:09.320
pay gap because it goes on in the same report to say, um, although 99 cents may seem very close to a
00:55:15.060
dollar, small differences in earnings on the dollar can compound over the course of a lifetime.
00:55:19.040
The gender pay gap should be zero. It is not zero. So they're still trying to pretend they are biased
00:55:25.260
in favor of trying to, uh, uh, you know, create a gender pay gap or pretend that there is one.
00:55:31.000
And that's why they're pretending that one penny still constitutes, uh, a problem when it doesn't,
00:55:38.980
because again, statistically it is a, it's margin of error. And it's also, it's just, it's not,
00:55:43.760
it's, it's not possible that you would control for all these factors and then make this comparison
00:55:49.880
and they would be exactly the same. That doesn't happen in real life.
00:55:55.260
So it's effectively the same. And that's what the data tells us.
00:55:58.980
You know, in addition to me, the daily wire has a couple other hosts you may have heard of. One of
00:56:02.960
them is named Ben Shapiro. You might know something about him. Well, it's Ben guy who it turns out is
00:56:07.900
actually pretty smart and interesting. Just premiered the second season of his show,
00:56:12.120
The Search. And his first guest is actor, comedian, and eccentric British man, Russell Brand.
00:56:17.380
Here's a teaser of their episode. Check it out.
00:56:19.880
Ben, I can smell weed right now. Right now. Are we going to just sit here?
00:56:28.980
There's a difference between innocent and good.
00:56:30.400
Ah, oh. Let me think about that for a couple of months.
00:56:34.800
Give me the Talmud, because if it's not in there, I want to know what the hell's going on.
00:56:41.900
I'm not going to be the one who says the weed is kosher.
00:56:43.440
I'm 20 years clean. I didn't think this is how I was going to fall off the wagon.
00:56:49.660
I've been with Rogan. Maher, Shapiro that takes me down.
00:56:54.360
Well, if you haven't seen The Search yet, you should. It's not an interview show. It is a
00:57:06.260
conversation show. There is a difference that you'll see when you watch this show. The episodes
00:57:09.840
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00:57:13.700
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00:57:37.500
Well, it's still pretty early, but we already have a candidate for the dumbest internet controversy
00:57:41.980
of the year. And it all began, as it usually does, with a tweet. A tweet that countless news
00:57:47.320
articles have described as mean, offensive, sexist, very, very bad. A tweet which has led to thousands
00:57:53.620
upon thousands of people expressing their outrage while jumping on an internet dogpile that has lasted
00:57:58.220
for days now. A tweet that's provoked reactions from members of the media, from celebrities,
00:58:04.540
even from people who aren't mentally ill as well. So what was this tweet? What was this outrageous,
00:58:10.980
unthinkable, calamitous tweet which will live eternally in infamy? This tweet that will
00:58:16.820
have monuments built to it so that generations can come and mourn together and remember the tweet
00:58:22.160
and lament the tweet? Well, here is the tweet. Get ready for it. It was posted by journalist
00:58:27.640
Lachlan Markey a couple of days ago, and here's what it said. Quote,
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The tragedy of the White Stripes is how great they would have been with a half-decent drummer.
00:58:36.860
Yeah, yeah, I've heard all the, but it's a carefully crafted sound, man, takes. I'm sorry,
00:58:41.820
Meg White was terrible, and no band is better for having percussion. That's it. That's the whole
00:58:47.620
thing. Lachlan posted an opinion about an early 2000s rock band, which he said didn't have a good
00:58:54.920
drummer. He didn't like the drummer. He said the drummer of a band that broke up over a decade ago
00:58:58.980
was terrible, and that is what caused mass outrage. This is what prompted not one think piece,
00:59:06.040
but many. Just the first page of Google News results has 10 articles about this opinion
00:59:11.780
from major media outlets, all condemning it as wrong, offensive, of course, misogynistic.
00:59:19.120
Other musicians like Questlove from The Roots have joined in to voice their disapproval.
00:59:25.000
I try to leave troll views alone, but this right here is out of line AF. Actually, what is wrong with
00:59:32.200
music is people choking the life out of music like an Instagram filter, trying to reach a high of music
00:59:37.220
perfection that doesn't even serve the song or music. Out of line, he says. It is out of line to
00:59:44.600
dislike the drummer from the White Stripes. You are not allowed to dislike her. You have to like her
00:59:50.360
drumming. It is entirely out of bounds to have any other opinion about her drumming skills. This is also
00:59:56.880
apparently the opinion of Jack White, of course, the former lead singer of White Stripes, who responded
01:00:01.800
to the controversy with a lengthy poem that he wrote as a tribute to Meg White. Yes, that's correct.
01:00:09.060
They are memorializing her as if the tweet literally killed her. They're writing poems in tribute to her
01:00:17.040
because someone criticized her drumming on Twitter. So this is what Jack White posted on Instagram.
01:00:22.880
To be born in another time, any era but our own would have been fine. A hundred years from now,
01:00:29.160
a thousand years from now, some other distant, different time, one without demons, cowards,
01:00:35.020
and vampires out for blood, one with the positive inspiration to foster what is good, an empty field
01:00:41.480
where no tall red poppies are cut down, where we could lay all day every day on the warm and subtle
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ground, and know just what to say and what to play to conjure our own sounds, and be one with the others
01:00:54.260
all around us, and even still the ones who came before, and help ourselves to all their love, and pass
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it on again once more, to have bliss upon bliss upon bliss, to be without fear, negativity, or pain,
01:01:05.560
and to get up every morning and be happy to do it all again. Just to remind you, that is a poem
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written in response to one random guy who said Meg White wasn't a good drummer. He is the demon,
01:01:21.440
coward, and vampire out for blood in this poem. He is the source of fear, negativity, and pain.
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And if you think that is just a tad melodramatic, wait until you hear Lachlan's inevitable apology
01:01:32.580
tweet, which we knew was going to happen. Actually, it's more like an apology essay. Now,
01:01:37.240
before we read it, you know, if it were me, and yes, I'm a contrarian a-hole, I know that,
01:01:47.900
but if I had voiced a music opinion that prompted Jack White to write a tearful poem,
01:01:54.480
I would think that the whole thing was absolutely great. It'd be the greatest thing ever, and incredibly
01:02:00.800
funny, of course. I'd probably respond by randomly insulting other musicians just to see if I could
01:02:05.220
get more of them to write retaliatory poems. I'd start thinking even bigger, actually. Maybe if I
01:02:11.680
bullied enough rock stars, eventually they'd all band together and record a kind of We Are The World
01:02:16.580
type charity single to stand up against my hate. That's what I would do. That's my dream.
01:02:22.740
But Lachlan adopted the opposite strategy, and instead of enjoying this hilarious moment, he ran
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away in fear. He deleted the offending tweet, he locked down his Twitter account, and he posted this
01:02:32.780
apology. Quote, by now you've probably seen an ill-advised and since-deleted tweet that I sent
01:02:38.820
out yesterday about the White Stripes and Meg White. It was an over-the-top take on the White Stripes and
01:02:43.580
White as a drummer, and it was, let's face it, just truly awful in every way. Petty, obnoxious, just plain
01:02:50.580
wrong. I don't know if Meg White herself saw that tweet. I hope not, because I imagine it wouldn't feel
01:02:55.580
great to see a stranger dumping on you like that. So to Meg White, I am sorry, really. And to women in music,
01:03:02.360
in the music business generally, who I think are disproportionately subject to this sort of
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I am sorry to have fed that as well. I'm really going to try to be more thoughtful in the future,
01:03:11.620
both on here and off. I've been thinking to myself, as all this, again, completely justified hate
01:03:16.660
comes in over the last 24 hours, why did I actually write that? It's not what I really think, and I like
01:03:22.060
to think I'm not what made me out to be, or at least I try not to be. I think the answer in part is
01:03:27.000
that the sort of vicious sniping is something that we, as online folks, tend to reward with
01:03:31.620
eyes and clicks. And I think I got caught up in that implicit incentive structure with a needlessly
01:03:36.520
inflammatory, downright mean, and most importantly, false take.
01:03:43.380
Well, that is also embarrassing that I felt secondhand shame just from reading it out loud.
01:03:49.780
I mean, we have seen some truly pathetic, groveling public apologies in the past,
01:03:53.740
many of them, but this one manages to sink to new depths of self-degradation. He is pretending now
01:04:00.960
that his tweet about a band that existed 20 years ago was some kind of trolling, intentionally
01:04:07.860
inflammatory hot take. You know, as if he wrote that tweet about Meg White as a drummer, thinking
01:04:14.980
that it would attract reactions from millions of people. But of course, that's not the case. It was
01:04:21.140
just an innocuous opinion that was not intended to be the subject of a week-long national discourse.
01:04:27.680
Meg White is a millionaire and a former rock star. She's not a victim. She's not a victim because some
01:04:32.700
dude on Twitter doesn't like her drumming. All musicians encounter criticism. They have to be
01:04:38.700
able to deal with it. They are not damsels in distress. Actually, the person being bullied here
01:04:43.800
is Lachlan. He's the one being targeted and harassed by thousands of rabid hyenas who are enraged
01:04:49.060
for reasons that they can't even explain. But Lachlan doesn't have the balls to make this point
01:04:53.460
in his own defense, which means that all of my sympathy for him, of course, evaporates.
01:04:58.280
Most pathetic of all, Lachlan is now confessing that the opinion he held up till three days ago
01:05:03.020
about Meg White's drumming is now wrong. He's been convinced that his opinion was wrong. How was he
01:05:09.140
convinced? Well, because lots of people were upset about the opinion. But how does that work exactly?
01:05:13.500
You didn't like her as a drummer. You said you didn't like her as a drummer. A bunch of people
01:05:17.480
cried about it. And now you do like her as a drummer. Their hurt feelings convinced you that
01:05:23.220
your analysis of her artistic talents was incorrect. How does that work? And of course,
01:05:29.520
just to make matters more ridiculous, the opinion that Lachlan articulated about Meg White used to
01:05:33.760
be widely shared by nearly everyone. Because in fact, Meg White isn't a great drummer. It was never
01:05:39.220
controversial to say that until everyone arbitrarily decided that it is controversial. In fact, many of the
01:05:44.020
media outlets that are now valiantly defending Meg White used to publish reviews ripping her to
01:05:48.900
shreds. For example, Pitchfork condemned Lachlan's tweet as a bad take. But back in 2003, here's what
01:05:55.420
they wrote in a review for the White Stripes album Elephant. This is what they wrote. Quoting now,
01:05:59.760
The naivete of Meg's playing deflates any big rock aspirations. Meg's pancake-handed drumming drips
01:06:06.800
solvent over the whole experiment. Now, just to clarify here, pancake-handed drumming is not meant as a
01:06:13.300
compliment. In fact, it's a pretty clever insult. And this is the kind of fun and vivid imagery we
01:06:18.440
used to get from music and film critics before it was decided that the last thing a critic should
01:06:22.540
ever do is engage in, you know, actual criticism. But this is not a surprise, really. I mean, there
01:06:27.920
are many, many widely held beliefs and opinions from 20 years ago that are now treated as utterly
01:06:33.280
shocking. Opinions about Meg White's drumming chops are the least of it. But this is how the game is
01:06:39.380
played now. Opinions, no matter how innocuous or valid or both, you know, are treated like war crimes.
01:06:46.040
At least some opinions, right? Because the rules are meant to be arbitrary. There's always this
01:06:49.780
element of Simon Says to it. After all, it's not as though we live in an era of niceness where everyone
01:06:55.600
is expected to be nice to each other and polite and gentle with their wording. There's still plenty
01:07:00.940
of viciousness to go around. We live in a culture that is, in many ways, far nastier, far more negative,
01:07:06.520
far uglier, far more cruel than it was 20 years ago, back when music critics delighted in finding
01:07:11.300
creative ways to insult rock stars. It's just that the cruelty can only be sent in certain directions
01:07:16.800
at people who are not accepted members of assigned victim groups. And if anyone commits the ultimate
01:07:22.180
sin of wrong think, then there's essentially nothing you can say or do to him that would be considered
01:07:28.220
overboard. But Meg White, though a millionaire musician, can claim membership in a recognized victim
01:07:34.760
group as a woman, which means that any criticism of her is a human rights violation. These are the
01:07:40.840
rules now, and they are insane, which is why the cancel mob coming after Lachlan is canceled. But since
01:07:49.700
he bowed and apologized to the mob, Lachlan himself is also, I must say, today canceled. That'll do it for
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this portion of the show. Let's move over to the members block. Hope to see you there. If not,