The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1155 - White Male Republican Bravely Comes Out As A Transracial Lesbian Woman Of Color

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, a white male conservative Republican politician has made

00:00:03.820 a stunning and heroic announcement. He is actually a woman of color. Yet for some reason,

00:00:08.360 his transgender and transracial intersectional identity is being hatefully rejected by leftists

00:00:13.780 who are calling for his removal from office. We'll talk about this today. Also, Montana is

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00:02:02.240 Over the past several years, it's been fascinating to watch legions of grown adults who have lived their

00:02:07.360 entire lives up to this moment, believing in and not remotely questioning the objective and immutable

00:02:12.160 reality of biological sex, suddenly adopt a viewpoint diametrically at odds with everything

00:02:18.160 they said and seemed to think until now. None of them have ever explained this dramatic change

00:02:23.740 of heart. None of them have ever told us what arguments convinced them or what else may have

00:02:28.560 prompted their road to Damascus conversion. All we know is that all of these people, including most

00:02:33.920 of the most prominent people in politics and media and Hollywood, all now believe or claim to believe

00:02:39.420 that identity is fluid and sex is on a spectrum and men can become pregnant and women can have 0.98

00:02:45.700 penises and so on. As just the latest example, Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy 0.99

00:02:50.120 appeared on Meet the Press on Sunday, where he was grilled by Chuck Todd over his bigoted belief

00:02:56.420 that women have two X chromosomes and men have XY chromosomes. Chuck Todd has been on television for

00:03:03.020 many years for some reason. And yet, if you were to go back through his catalog and the hundreds upon

00:03:07.980 hundreds of hours of footage, you will likely find no indication until about 14 seconds ago

00:03:13.180 that he denies the objective existence of men and women as biological categories.

00:03:18.900 If he had believed this 10 years ago or 15 years ago, you'd think that it'd be the kind of thing

00:03:24.140 that might come up on occasion, but it never did. And yet, here he is now.

00:03:29.540 But below the age of 18, I think it's perfectly legitimate to say that we won't allow genital mutilation

00:03:33.820 or chemical castration through puberty blockers for the purpose of gender transition.

00:03:37.020 You're calling it that, but how do you know it's that? Again, how do you know, are you confident

00:03:41.020 that you know that gender is as binary as you're describing it? Are you confident that it isn't a 0.99

00:03:47.660 spectrum? You know this as a scientist? Well, there's two X chromosomes. If you're a woman, 1.00

00:03:52.160 an X and a Y, that means you're a man. There's a lot of scientific research out there that says

00:03:57.560 gender is a spectrum. Chuck, I respectfully disagree. Gender dysphoria for most of our history,

00:04:02.700 all the way through the DSM-5, has been characterized as a mental health disorder.

00:04:06.860 And I don't think it's compassionate to affirm that. I think that's cruelty.

00:04:10.540 When a kid is crying out for help, what they're asking for is, you've got to ask the question of

00:04:14.400 what else is going wrong at home? What else is going wrong at school? Let's be compassionate

00:04:18.000 and get to the heart of that, rather than playing this game as though we're actually changing

00:04:22.480 our medical understanding for the last 100 years. I go back to this. If a parent is dealing with

00:04:27.380 the child that has these, that may have these issues, trust me, the parent, the last thing

00:04:32.100 they want to do is consider something like this. But if that is what they think could help their

00:04:36.980 child pursue happiness, or they're not to kill themselves, why take away that option?

00:04:43.300 A lot of scientific research, he says. He assures us. How do we know that gender is on a spectrum and

00:04:50.180 that some men have uteruses? Well, the scientific research. What scientific research? Well, you know,

00:04:56.020 the ones that scientists do. Which scientists? Well, stop asking questions, you bigot.

00:05:01.860 Chuck also insists that we must systematically castrate and sterilize children in order to stave off 1.00

00:05:06.240 suicide. This is another viewpoint that I'm willing to wager Chuck never once expressed or even hinted at

00:05:12.500 until very recently. But now he's quite sure of it, but we can't actually explain why. Many such cases,

00:05:20.020 a great many such cases, and that is exactly why in this age of extreme, and you might even say

00:05:25.380 pathological acceptance, I was so personally disheartened and frankly stunned to see the same

00:05:31.820 acceptance withheld from one of the great transgender trailblazers of our time. Ryan Webb is a Republican

00:05:39.940 councilman in Delaware County, Indiana. He is, or I should say, was a white male conservative. But

00:05:46.900 earlier this month, Webb made a courageous announcement. He came out as a trans woman of color.

00:05:53.300 Here's the local news reporting on the StoryWatch.

00:05:56.820 Councilman is coming out as a transgender, as transgender and a woman of color. Delaware County

00:06:02.980 Councilman Ryan Webb announced that he now identifies as an Indian American woman.

00:06:08.420 Since that announcement, he's received some support, but a lot of backlash,

00:06:12.100 many calling him childish, despicable, even calling for things like execution.

00:06:16.820 In a statement Webb gave to IT Made, he says, quote,

00:06:20.340 it is unfortunate that I cannot simply be given the same space and respect to explore my identity that so

00:06:26.580 many of those targeting me demand for themselves. It's possible I may change my mind down the road.

00:06:32.900 The process of identity exploration is complex, and oftentimes at the end of our personal journey,

00:06:39.060 we end right back where we started. Webb goes on to tell IT Made this is just his true authentic self.

00:06:47.140 Incredible. Our brave sister, Mrs. Ryan Webb, has come out of three closets all at once.

00:06:52.980 She reveals herself to be a woman, a person of color, and a lesbian. Mrs. Webb has pulled off 0.83

00:06:57.700 the intersectional hat trick. And here she is on Facebook announcing her truth to the world.

00:07:02.980 Quote, after much consideration, I've decided to come out and finally feel comfortable announcing

00:07:06.180 my true authentic self. It is with great relief that I announce to everyone that I identify as a

00:07:09.540 woman, not just any woman, but as a woman of color as well. I guess this would make me a gay

00:07:14.500 slash lesbian as well, since I'm attracted to women. 1.00

00:07:17.860 That felt good to finally get out there and start living life as my true self. 0.92

00:07:22.260 I'm excited to bring some diversity to the county council. Until today,

00:07:25.540 we didn't have any females of color or LGBTQIA PC++ on the council. I'm glad that now we do. 1.00

00:07:32.580 Mrs. Webb goes on to note that she is, in fact, the first

00:07:35.620 lesbian woman of color in the history of Delaware County to ever serve on their council.

00:07:40.180 And that's just one of the glass ceilings that she has shattered.

00:07:44.100 But perhaps the most remarkable thing has been Mrs. Webb's physical transformation.

00:07:48.580 They only very briefly showed. We'll put it up on the screen again. You can clearly see

00:07:52.660 the before and after. Who can deny her lived experience after seeing a photo comparison

00:07:58.340 like this? She was a run of the mill white male before, but now she is a beautiful, vibrant black

00:08:04.020 woman. If you put Mrs. Webb in a room with Meghan Markle, you would hardly be able to tell who is who. 1.00

00:08:09.860 And yet, in the year 2023, no less, Mrs. Webb's trans identity has been viciously rejected

00:08:18.100 and ridiculed by the very people who claim to be defenders of trans rights. She has been even

00:08:22.900 doxxed and harassed and threatened and protested. At the most recent council, county council meeting,

00:08:28.020 transphobic leftists showed up in mass to call for her removal simply for being transgender.

00:08:34.580 Here's one woman repeatedly misgendering Mrs. Webb, even while accusing her of, quote, 0.90

00:08:39.220 making a hate speech. Listen.

00:08:40.900 The actions that Ryan has taken are very embarrassing to the city of Muncie at this point.

00:08:49.060 If you're transgender, that's fine. He is creating a conflict against some transgenders based on his

00:08:56.260 post. And the fact that, you know, he's flaunting the minority, you know, lesbian as such, as the first 0.63

00:09:08.020 council person as a lesbian. And I just, I don't understand why he would trash transgenders in one post 0.73

00:09:17.620 and the very next day decide that he is transgender. It creates a divide. We have transgenders all over 0.95

00:09:24.980 Muncie. And they have the right to be respected. And he has diminished some of that respect to them.

00:09:34.900 And he's also diminished some of that respect to minority women,

00:09:41.060 you know, Native American women, black women. 1.00

00:09:47.940 I am, I feel that he has basically made a hate speech in this post on April 11th.

00:09:53.780 And I feel that he should resign. And if he doesn't, I would, I would look at county council

00:10:00.020 to talk to legal and see what they can do about removing him because he has created some hate.

00:10:07.140 She doesn't understand. She says, well, ma'am, it's not Ryan's job to help you understand.

00:10:13.540 BIPOC women in this country already do enough emotional labor. Thank you. It's not up to them 1.00

00:10:18.420 to make you feel comfortable. If you don't understand, that's your problem and something

00:10:23.220 you ought to frankly keep to yourself. Stop demanding that queer people explain themselves. 1.00

00:10:28.900 Stop burdening marginalized people with your ignorance. But we should expect a cis white 1.00

00:10:35.540 woman to be so obtuse. The really astounding thing is that even Ryan's fellow trans women, 1.00

00:10:40.340 her alleged compatriots, heaps scorn on her. Watch this.

00:10:45.140 Councilperson Ryan Webb announced publicly on social media and to several news outlets

00:10:52.980 that he now identifies as a lesbian woman of color, retaining his male pronouns and bragging that he is

00:11:01.220 now the first, this is a quote, LGBTQ plus woman of color to ever sit on the Delaware County Council

00:11:08.820 and claiming to have shattered the local glass ceiling, end quote. If he were serious, I'd sing his praises.

00:11:19.700 But instead, I know better.

00:11:23.700 We all do. I know better because of his history of making hateful anti-trans statements on social media

00:11:31.620 and just disrespecting one's pronouns. He has purposely and intentionally misgendered me,

00:11:40.980 ridiculing my own gender identity. That's not something transgender people do to one another.

00:11:47.860 Now he expects us to believe he is sincere.

00:11:57.220 He is being disingenuous and his words not only embarrass himself, but you, the county council.

00:12:06.420 His comments are disgraceful and they fall below our expectations of an elected official whose job it is

00:12:12.820 to represent all his constituents. He no longer deserves to serve on this council and I ask him to resign.

00:12:22.580 Well, it is a shame to hear such bigotry coming from such a beautiful woman. I have to admit though,

00:12:29.140 it was a little confusing to watch. On the one hand, I was horrified by the racism and internalized

00:12:34.260 transphobia. On the other hand, I was kind of delighted and nostalgic because she reminded me of the

00:12:39.700 Chris Farley lunch lady skit. And I mean that in a good way, of course. It's the highest compliment that I can

00:12:47.220 give to a woman. And unfortunately, it's the only compliment I can give to someone so hate-filled and

00:12:52.820 intolerant. It's a shame to see a trans woman climb the ladder to societal acceptance and then try to pull it up 1.00

00:13:00.020 after her, leaving Ryan Webb stranded down below. Yet another woman of color abandoned by the system.

00:13:06.660 There are many moments like this at the meeting. One person after another getting up to deliver a

00:13:10.820 lecture to Ryan. All of them calling for her to resign or be thrown out. Well, he could only sit,

00:13:17.620 I mean, she could only sit in dignified silence like so many BIPOC and queer women before her. 1.00

00:13:24.580 Here's just one more example. Watch. First of all, I cannot believe that I had to take time

00:13:29.300 out of my day today to attempt to teach a grown man how to behave appropriately.

00:13:34.340 Ethics as defined are moral principles that govern a person's behavior or conducting of an activity.

00:13:42.900 Ryan Webb's lack of professionalism is outstanding and absolutely unethical.

00:13:52.660 I've worked for the past 21 years. Many people here work your whole life, you know. And as we all know,

00:13:59.780 jobs require a certain amount of integrity to be exercised. In none of my jobs in the last 21 years,

00:14:08.020 and that is many, many jobs, would I have been permitted to mock and disrespect my customers?

00:14:15.060 She's had many, many jobs. Apparently she's good at getting jobs, but not keeping them. You know, 0.95

00:14:23.380 I wonder why. In any case, you get the idea. Ryan Webb, Delaware County's first POC lesbian woman to

00:14:28.100 ever serve in the county council has been rejected by his own, I mean, her own community. It falls then

00:14:34.420 to the nation's leading LGBT children's author to come to her defense. And I will only say this

00:14:40.100 to everybody on the left. I'm sorry, but this is your bed. You have made it for yourself. And now

00:14:47.860 you must lay in it. You don't get to reject anyone's truth. You do not have permission to be

00:14:53.780 skeptical of anyone's claims about their own identity. And it's not me or Delaware County's

00:15:00.020 first queer BIPOC councilwoman, Ryan Webb, who have denied you permission. You have denied it. 0.70

00:15:05.940 You have set the rules for your own game. And those rules are exceedingly simple and clear.

00:15:11.700 They may also be insane. You know, the rules might be insane, but that's your problem.

00:15:17.060 The rules stipulate that a person's physical body has no bearing on any part of their identity. We all

00:15:23.940 have our own truth, our own lived experience, and we are able to determine who and what we are.

00:15:29.540 Nothing external can make this determination. Certainly no other person can decide for us.

00:15:36.900 We may decide, you know, on one identity one day and something else the next. And every new identity

00:15:43.140 is completely valid and requires no justification or explanation at all. These are your rules.

00:15:49.700 You've been very explicit about this. If Ryan Webb was a critic of trans ideology

00:15:54.900 and then decided the next day that she actually is trans, well, that's her truth. It's her journey. 0.59

00:16:02.260 So you can say, I don't understand. How could you be saying this yesterday than this today?

00:16:05.700 It's not for you to understand. She said it. This is, this is her exploring her identity.

00:16:13.220 And sometimes you end up back where you started. I thought that was a very profound statement.

00:16:18.900 This is her experience. You have no basis for rejecting it or arguing against it.

00:16:24.340 Now it's true. You know, you do like to pretend that this principle doesn't apply to race. At least

00:16:29.540 so far, you're still at the point where you're pretending that there's some sort of line in the

00:16:34.180 sand here, but the line in the sand just doesn't work. Race is far more fluid than sex. It is much

00:16:40.420 more on a spectrum. Even the phrase person of color already opens the door to everyone because we are

00:16:48.260 all people of color. If the other option is to be colorless and translucent like deep sea creatures, 0.96

00:16:53.700 not to open up that can of worms again. If a person with XY chromosomes and a male reproductive, 0.98

00:16:58.420 uh, male reproductive organs can still somehow possess like the essence of a woman,

00:17:05.380 then how much more can a person with slightly lighter skin possess the essence of a person with slightly

00:17:10.180 darker skin. You are the ones, in fact, who even tell us that race is a social construct. 0.97

00:17:17.940 That's anti-racism 101. You've already put race and gender into the same category. You have placed

00:17:25.620 those two things on the same playing field. And in the same playbook, Ryan Webb is just connecting the

00:17:31.620 dots. That's all. And now you are literally committing genocide against her. Literally.

00:17:39.860 She is like a transracial lesbian, Martin Luther King Jr., a civil rights hero, and now a martyr. 0.78

00:17:49.060 But I'll tell you this, no matter what you do, no matter how much you disparage and disavow her, 0.85

00:17:54.260 no matter how much you try to silence her, even if you kick her off of the county council,

00:17:57.540 still her courage will ring down through the generations and inspire millions for years to

00:18:05.620 come. I know that she has inspired me. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:19:32.180 the Daily Wire. Montana became the latest state to ban sex change procedures on minors after

00:19:38.660 Republican Governor Greg Gianforte, Gianforte, maybe we'll call him. Anyway, we'll call him Greg,

00:19:44.340 signed a bill into law on Friday protecting children from life-altering treatments.

00:19:49.940 Governor Greg signed Senate Bill 99 known as the Youth Health Protection Act after

00:19:54.660 previously sending it back to the legislature for amendments. The bill bans surgeries like

00:19:58.260 elective double mastectomies on girls who identify as boys and prohibits puberty blockers and cross-sex 0.77

00:20:02.340 hormones for children. He is committed to protecting Montana's children from invasive

00:20:08.820 medical treatments that can permanently alter their healthy developing bodies.

00:20:12.420 Caitlin Price, a spokeswoman, sent in an email to the New York Times.

00:20:16.100 In a letter to Montana Republican Senate and House leaders, Gianforte explained why he

00:20:20.740 supported the bill. He said that the bill focused on so-called gender-affirming medical care for

00:20:24.420 children. Gender-affirming care for children is Orwellian newspeak, a seemingly innocuous, 0.99

00:20:28.740 even solicitous phrase that masks its true nature of permanent, invasive, life-altering medical and

00:20:33.460 surgical procedures performed on children whose young minds and bodies are still developing.

00:20:37.220 Um, so this finally passed through. Of course, uh, the left very upset, uh, trans activist.

00:20:43.540 Here's Montana trans representative Zoe Zephyr. Zephyr. Again, obviously not his real name.

00:20:51.540 I'm not sure what his real name is, but I'm sure it's not Zoe Zephyr. Like they never even choose 0.61

00:20:55.700 names that sound remotely like a, like an actual name. Um, the names always sounds like the names

00:21:01.780 that sound like cartoon characters. So here's Zoe Zephyr reacting to the news. 0.99

00:21:06.260 It's important to note that this bill doesn't go into effect until October 1st,

00:21:12.820 and we're going to do everything in our power to stop this bill. There will be court challenges and

00:21:17.540 ultimately like bills across the country, it will get defeated in these courts. We know that these bills

00:21:23.220 are as unconstitutional as they are cruel. Um, but it is, I think it does show the way in which

00:21:30.660 the right in our state is beginning to shift and isn't listening to the constituents in our communities

00:21:37.140 who are saying these bills hurt people. These bills hurt people. You know, remember, uh, when it,

00:21:43.860 when it comes to child castration and sterilization, and, uh, when they're talking about rights, always

00:21:49.060 remember whose rights they're referring to. And it's not the rights of the child. Okay. It's never

00:21:55.300 the rights of the child. It's not the right of the child to be mutilated. No, it's the right of the

00:22:00.580 medical industry to mutilate the child. That's what they're concerned about. What they're actually 0.97

00:22:06.500 saying is that, that doctors, the medical industry has the right to do this to a child

00:22:12.180 and profit off of it. And it's also the rights of, uh, of trans activists to brainwash children, 0.89

00:22:17.220 trans activists, like Zoe Zephyr to, uh, to brainwash and recruit these children into the cult. 0.98

00:22:23.540 Those are the rights that they're concerned about. But we are, as we see yet again, here we are,

00:22:29.460 this is, we are the good news. The very good news is that, is that I believe we're winning on this

00:22:35.060 issue. And I don't mean that we're winning on the issue of gender broadly speaking. Um, I,

00:22:41.780 I think that ultimately we will win on that issue. I don't know that we have a lot of ground to cover,

00:22:46.340 a lot of ground to make up. So I can't say that we're, we're covering a lot of that crowd,

00:22:50.100 but we're not winning on it. But when it comes to specifically the issue of kids, the transing of

00:22:55.860 kids, we are winning on that. Like we have almost all the momentum on our side, which is why on the

00:23:02.040 other side, all they have is, is, you know, the threats and force and censorship. They're doing all

00:23:09.200 these things because they're losing. This is, this is a sign that they're losing. You know,

00:23:14.640 the fact that, uh, that even take YouTube, for example, as you know, demonetized on YouTube,

00:23:21.180 I had to take the show off of YouTube because I wasn't going to toe the line. But up until recently,

00:23:26.140 everything that I'm saying right now, say it on YouTube, wasn't a problem.

00:23:31.520 Now it is because they realize that they're using, they're, they're losing. And the only thing

00:23:35.780 they could do is try to shut you down. Um, and we have gained all this momentum really pretty

00:23:45.000 quickly. Okay. We're not only seeing the, the legal victories and the laws being passed, which is great,

00:23:52.100 but also there's been a shift in the cultural narrative where many people who previously were,

00:23:57.940 uh, oblivious are now awake to this issue. They realize that it's going on. They're obviously

00:24:04.380 deeply, deeply opposed to it. Most people are any sane, decent person is, is going to be deeply

00:24:09.120 opposed to the castration, sterilization of children. And, um, and so that's the shift that

00:24:14.660 we're, that we're seeing happening. All right. One of the cable news clip I want to play for you.

00:24:19.100 This is a insurrectionist, Justin Pearson, who appeared on MSNBC. Um, and I just want you to

00:24:25.720 listen to what he has to say. This is going to be the way it is you and your generation and people

00:24:32.660 like you and Zoe Zephyr and Maxwell Frost, you're not afraid to break the China. 0.88

00:24:38.820 We have to realize that we are in a really important moment in the movement, uh, not just

00:24:43.880 in a moment and for our entire generation, which recognizes that the opportunity that we have cannot

00:24:49.360 be wasted by going along with the status quo as usual. The status quo has propped up white supremacy

00:24:55.140 and patriarchy and injustice. It has created a situation where in a state like Tennessee,

00:24:59.980 we have an increase in poverty. We have some of the lowest voter turnout. We have a situation where

00:25:04.700 we have this epidemic of gun violence and the silence from leaders in the Republican Party in

00:25:09.440 our state house. And we know that things can be different and it can be better. And so in this

00:25:14.220 moment, I believe the moral courage of all of our generation is awakening to our power. And we were

00:25:20.960 told how important civics was in voting and participating in democracy. And it's a shame that in Tennessee and in

00:25:27.220 Montana, we are seeing that participation in democracy seeking to be silenced, censured or expelled

00:25:32.760 because it is advocating for a vision and a voice that needs to be heard. And it is a vision that says

00:25:38.440 every body matters, that there is a movement of people who are young and who are fearless in the face of

00:25:46.060 injustice and fearless in the face of oppression, because we know that we are part of a long storied history of people who have

00:25:52.560 built movements that have been multiracial, that have been for the true spirit of democracy, that have

00:25:58.100 helped to create the present conditions that we have to be able to sit in the seats that we have in order to

00:26:03.220 elevate the issues and the voices of our community. And we're not going to stop and we're not going to be

00:26:07.680 turned around.

00:26:08.800 You know, there's a couple of funny things there. One is that you could tell he doesn't quite know how to speak

00:26:14.180 like a normal person right now because he has this character, this absurd cartoonish character that he plays

00:26:21.240 on TV when he's up there pretending to be a civil rights icon from the 1960s and doing that whole

00:26:25.020 routine. But he hasn't quite figured out. And these, you know, that's like the big over the top

00:26:31.000 moment that he's, that he can do. And I'm not going to say that he does it convincingly or does

00:26:36.660 it well, but he can do that. But it's the subtle acting that he hasn't quite figured out. And this is

00:26:43.140 also, I think this is true even of Hollywood actors. You know, it's one thing to have the big emotional

00:26:46.920 moment is one thing, but to have to capture those kind of subtler moments, that's a more

00:26:51.100 difficult acting. And so when he's giving these interviews where he's not in front of a crowd

00:26:54.960 with a bullhorn, you know, doing his whole Martin Luther King Jr. Stick, and he's just supposed to

00:27:00.260 be talking like a normal person. He doesn't quite, he sort of lapses into the character and then he

00:27:05.420 comes back out of it. He doesn't quite know how to talk like a normal person. But what did he say

00:27:09.240 there? Well, he said nothing at all. That was nothing. That was a whole rhetorical parade of nothing.

00:27:15.800 And this to me is the real tragedy, right? Like if we, if we must have extremist leftist militants in

00:27:24.980 our society, I'd prefer for them to at least be authentic. Okay. If we have to have them,

00:27:30.880 it's not the worst thing to have a culture, you know, a culture at war between two factions who

00:27:37.500 are deeply opposed to one another. It's not the best thing. It's not a good thing. You prefer not to

00:27:41.880 have that situation, but it's not the worst thing. I think the worst thing is this, where we're at

00:27:47.780 war, but we're at war with people who speak exclusively in cliches, people who are, you know,

00:27:55.940 absolutely phony, who are as human and authentic as chatbots. This is a culture war, but a very

00:28:03.820 decadent one. As so many of its participants are play acting, basically. We heard the Chuck Todd clip

00:28:12.400 at the top of the show. This is someone who doesn't buy this stuff. Well, you know, scientists say the

00:28:16.880 gender is on a spectrum. He doesn't buy that at all. He does not even, he does not believe any part of

00:28:23.020 that, but he's pretending to. All of these people are pretending, which I think just makes it all the

00:28:31.340 worse. All right. Next, we have this clip from a Bill Maher's show, which went viral. Elon Musk was

00:28:37.700 interviewed and we're just going to play a little piece of this. Here they are talking about the

00:28:42.960 origins of what Bill Maher refers to as the thing rightly refers to as the woke mind virus. Listen to

00:28:50.020 this conversation. This woke mind virus, how did it start? Was it bats? Was it an escape from a lab?

00:28:59.960 I mean, what is your assessment? Because it's fairly recent. How did it start and why?

00:29:08.080 So I was trying to figure out where it's coming from. I think it's actually been a long time brewing

00:29:12.700 in that it's, I think it's been going on for a while. The amount of indoctrination that's happening

00:29:25.020 in schools and universities is, I think, far beyond what parents realize. And I only, I sort of came to

00:29:32.700 realize this somewhat late. The experience that we had in high school and college is not the experience

00:29:40.400 that, that kids today are having. Um, and, and hasn't been for, I don't know, 10, 10 years,

00:29:46.560 maybe 20 years. So, uh, parents themselves also a big part of the problem. They, well,

00:29:53.820 I, I suppose in some cases that parents, but, but I think like the parents are just generally not

00:29:59.760 aware of what their, their kids are being taught, uh, or what they're not being taught. Um,

00:30:04.340 they're letting the kids. All right. So I agree with much of what Bill Maher says about the woke

00:30:11.000 stuff and what Elon Musk says about it. And, uh, I'm glad that Bill Maher is saying this stuff.

00:30:18.960 I do think he's in a position to reach some people who I can't really reach. And if you're,

00:30:23.880 uh, you know, if you're a full on right wing crazy, as we would be seen, uh, there are certain

00:30:30.100 people that just, no matter what we say, they're not going to listen to us. So there's a, so Bill

00:30:34.600 Maher is useful on some of these issues for that reason, but the applause that he gets on the right,

00:30:39.240 you know, the adoring applause that he gets is a little bit overdone and it's overdone because,

00:30:45.320 um, nobody is ever stopping to point out the obvious here. Okay. There's an answer to the

00:30:52.100 question that Bill Maher asks, where did the woke mind virus come from? And no, it didn't come from

00:30:56.880 bats and it wasn't grown in a lab. Um, and it didn't, it didn't fall out of the, it didn't fall

00:31:02.300 out of the sky, right? Like it didn't, it didn't, it didn't, uh, it didn't climb out of the ground or

00:31:06.880 something like some sort of, it didn't come out of the ocean like Godzilla. No, you know, the, uh,

00:31:12.900 Bill, you know, you know, what's the origin of the woke mind virus? You, you're the origin,

00:31:18.400 not just you, but liberalism, the left. Okay. The ideology you espouse, that's where it comes from.

00:31:26.880 It didn't come out of nowhere. Okay. It's you're correct in thinking that it could have just come

00:31:32.860 out of nowhere. It was born from the liberalism that you still ascribe to. It is a logical extension

00:31:41.400 of that. Okay. And this is a point that needs to be made and that conservatives need to make

00:31:48.300 rather than simply applauding and say, Oh, it's so good that someone, this is one of the good leftists.

00:31:53.360 I'm not saying that if somebody changes their mind on something that we should not allow them

00:31:58.540 to, or that we should spend all our time saying, I told you so we don't want to do that, but this

00:32:03.460 is an important, we need to make this point. And the more that people like Bill Maher can pretend

00:32:09.060 that wokeness is completely divorced from the leftism that he belongs, ascribes to and promotes, 0.98

00:32:17.320 the more that he's able to pretend that the worse it is. Because we're never actually going to defeat

00:32:24.340 the quote unquote woke mind virus. If we don't come to understand where it comes from and why it

00:32:31.980 comes in the first place. Um, and that's the really valuable car, the really valuable conversation

00:32:38.880 that we could be having and that he should be having is what is it about liberalism that gives

00:32:46.140 rise to this? All this stuff is coming from the left. Okay. All the things that he doesn't like,

00:32:55.440 and he's a problem with it rightly. So the gender stuff and the, uh, the, the shutting down debate

00:33:01.960 and conversation on college campuses. And it's like, all of that is coming from the left.

00:33:07.780 And there's a reason for that. Um, and we could talk about that answer. The answer will have a lot

00:33:12.320 to do with the fact that liberalism is fundamentally egocentric. It's fundamentally self-centered

00:33:18.140 with its intense focus on the self and, and satisfying the desires of the self.

00:33:24.860 This, this is liberalism. It's rejection of objective moral truth and of truth in general.

00:33:35.620 You know, the whole idea of, uh, of, uh, it's truth is subjective and we all have our own truth.

00:33:40.920 That again, all comes from the left. Many of their positions on many of these issues rooted in that,

00:33:47.420 in that assumption that there is no real truth. There certainly is no objective moral truth.

00:33:51.600 That's where it comes from. Um, but especially, as I said, especially it originates in

00:34:01.200 the intense, really single-minded focus on the self and on satisfying the desires and wants and perceived

00:34:14.340 needs of the self. That's, you start there and you get to everything we're experiencing right now.

00:34:24.260 All right. CNN has this report. Measures that would have severely restricted abortion failed

00:34:30.900 on Thursday in Nebraska and South Carolina, which both have Republican controlled legislatures,

00:34:34.760 a reflection of the growing unease among Republicans over the political popularity of strict bans.

00:34:39.180 In Nebraska, a heartbeat act, which would have banned most abortions after six weeks,

00:34:44.060 except in cases of rape or incest, or to preserve the life of the mother once a fetal heartbeat was

00:34:48.180 detected, stalled in the legislature. A vote to overcome a filibuster of the bill failed by a vote

00:34:53.180 of 32 to 15 with two senators abstaining, including Republican state Senator Merv Reap, uh, leaving the

00:34:59.080 measure one vote shy of the two thirds majority majority needed for full consideration.

00:35:03.540 I believe that in both states, um, these, um, pro-life bills failed by, by one bill,

00:35:11.540 one vote rather, I believe. Certainly at least in Nebraska, that was the case.

00:35:16.560 Um, the Nebraska governor said she was profoundly disappointed in the vote,

00:35:20.320 called for the bill to be reconsidered. Uh, but after the news came down that the bill had failed,

00:35:24.780 here are the Democrats in the state legislature in Nebraska reacting to the news. 0.99

00:35:29.540 Yeah, we get to kill babies. 1.00

00:35:47.260 Oh, think of all the babies we can kill. They're saying to themselves, 1.00

00:35:49.700 that's what they're cheering. So many babies we can kill. We can kill them all. 1.00

00:35:55.340 Kill those babies. They say tears of happiness overcome with joy. Mo move to tears, tears of 1.00

00:36:05.220 happiness at the thought of murdering your own offspring. All of those women, can you put that 0.99

00:36:10.800 up again? Not the video, just the, uh, just so we can see, so we can see these people exactly

00:36:16.660 what you expect them to look like. All these women, some of them, some of them are probably 1.00

00:36:20.780 mothers, God forbid. Um, some of them are probably mothers, mothers of living and dead children, 1.00

00:36:26.480 children that they've killed, but then probably they've sublivided. But they, and, but this is

00:36:30.740 what, you know, for most women, at least for, uh, for good women anyway, um, they're, they're moved 0.77

00:36:37.040 to tears by the, their love of their children. And in fact, my, my wife just this morning,

00:36:43.600 she was sitting there holding, uh, our, our twins, the babies. And she was like the tears in her eyes,

00:36:49.400 just looking at the babies and smiling, you know, um, which is a beautiful thing to see is that,

00:36:54.020 that's the, uh, the love, the overwhelming over, you know, overflowing love of a mother for her

00:37:01.020 children. And you can contrast that with this. So they contrast the tears of a, of a mother

00:37:08.760 who is crying over how much she loves her children and contrast it with the tears of these hideous 0.96

00:37:16.600 monstrosities, these disgusting goblins who are crying because they'll have the opportunity to 1.00

00:37:24.200 kill more of their own children. It really is repulsive. Now, here's the thing. What I'm saying 1.00

00:37:30.360 right now, if you are pro-abortion, you're likely to find defensive. I don't care if you find a

00:37:36.620 defensive or not, but you should consider the fact that, you know, if the pro-abortion arguments are

00:37:43.440 correct, if those arguments are right, which they aren't at all, not by a long shot, but if they

00:37:50.740 were correct, let's just say, let's, for the sake of argument, um, the most of those arguments could

00:37:56.180 possibly justify the furthest that you would be able to get is to a point where abortion is

00:38:01.820 begrudgingly accepted as a tragic necessity. And that's if the arguments are correct, which again,

00:38:07.720 they aren't. My point is that even if we accept the pro-abortion arguments, if we accept them all,

00:38:15.280 we say, you're right about all that. That would not get us anywhere close to that. It wouldn't get

00:38:22.600 us anywhere close to the point of popping champagne and celebrating abortion like our team just won 0.85

00:38:28.260 the Super Bowl. Because even on the, uh, in the pro-abortion worldview, what is the baby? What is the,

00:38:34.020 the, the baby in the womb? The baby is a fetus, they say. Well, that doesn't mean a fetus just

00:38:38.560 is Latin for offspring. It doesn't, it's a distinction without a difference. But they say

00:38:42.340 a fetus is, uh, is not a person. It's a potential. It's potential for a person. It is a potential

00:38:47.800 person, but not a person. Well, if that's true, then at a minimum, by, by having an abortion, you are

00:38:57.140 destroying potential life, which is still at least very sad. It's a sad thing. It's a somber. It should

00:39:06.680 be sad and somber. By your own logic, it should still be sad and somber. Destroying potential life.

00:39:15.280 I've, I've used the, uh, I've used the analogy before. It's not a perfect analogy, I realize,

00:39:20.140 but it illustrates some of the point that I'm trying to make, which is that, you know, um,

00:39:24.240 if you had a $50 million lottery ticket and someone were, and you hadn't cashed the ticket

00:39:30.020 yet. So that, you know, it's a ticket. It's not, it is not, the ticket itself is not $50 million,

00:39:35.000 right? It's just, it's, it is potential. They have to go cash it. You have to go and submit it and

00:39:39.820 right. And if somebody were to take that $50 million, $50 million winning lottery ticket and burn

00:39:46.700 it, destroy it, um, yeah, they haven't technically destroyed $50 million. Like they haven't actually

00:39:53.440 taken a whole bag of money and lit that on fire, but, and they haven't gone into a vault somewhere

00:40:00.800 and, and stolen $50 million worth of coins, but they've, they've destroyed something that was just

00:40:06.380 about to be converted to become $50 million. So that would still be a, a, a great tragedy in your

00:40:13.460 life. It would still be a horrible thing. And you would react to it, even though there is a little

00:40:18.300 bit of a distinction between it's a lottery ticket, not actually the actual money, you would react to

00:40:23.520 it, not as though you just lost a little receipt paper, but as though you just lost $50 million.

00:40:28.740 So the distinction would be so fine. And so, um, you know, uh, uh, really it would be, it would be

00:40:37.580 irrelevant. It would be an essentially irrelevant distinction for you in that moment. And that's what

00:40:43.380 on the pro-abortion people's own logic, that's what abortion is. And they're celebrating. So how do

00:40:51.940 you get to the celebration? The arguments don't take you there. Uh, what takes you there is just

00:40:56.380 religious fervor. This is pure satanic child sacrifice. It is religious fervor for abortion. 0.66

00:41:04.960 That's what takes you the rest of the way, not the arguments. All right. One other thing to mention,

00:41:14.020 important one, the Daily Mail has this report, their man's best friend. And according to research,

00:41:19.760 our trusted sleeping partner to two thirds of pet owners now share a bed with their cat or dog. A

00:41:25.620 new poll suggests the survey of 2000 people by sleep brands, silent night also discovered that

00:41:31.020 nearly one third do so every single night. But should we really be letting, uh, dogs share our

00:41:36.720 beds? While exposure to mites from pets can strengthen the immune system, experts say the

00:41:41.260 habit can run the risk of serious infection. Sharing your bed with your dog increases the chance of

00:41:45.800 them transferring microbes that sit on a dog's skin, possibly via licking feces or from their fur.

00:41:51.960 Such bugs can cause conditions including mange or even Lyme disease. You can get mange. Okay. You

00:41:58.280 could become a mangy beast just like your dog. Professor Alejandra Parade, a mite expert at the 1.00

00:42:04.340 School of Biological Sciences says, if a dog owner is immunocompromised or has a weak immune system,

00:42:10.240 even temporarily, then they should not share their bed with a dog. Yeah. If you're immunocompromised,

00:42:14.480 you shouldn't share your bed with a dog. Also, if you have any dignity at all as a human being,

00:42:17.600 you shouldn't share your bed with a dog. In summary, it goes on with all the different disgusting 0.89

00:42:21.560 diseases that you can get. Uh, but, but the summary is don't sleep with a dog in your bed,

00:42:26.900 you savages. What are you? Are you a barn animal? You're laying in bed with a flea-covered 0.98

00:42:33.960 beast right next to you? You might as well sleep on a bed of hay on in the dirt. Okay. You might as

00:42:40.120 well do that. Go, go get some, some goats and pigs and just sleep in their pin with them, their pen

00:42:48.200 rather. If you don't want to behave like a human being, you might as well cut to the chase.

00:42:54.700 And act like an, I'm telling you, this is our real problem as a society. It's maybe not the only

00:43:01.960 problem, but it is a real problem. They say that they said in the article, dogs are a man's best

00:43:07.320 friend. Okay. Like I don't, they're not my best friend. Okay. I think your friends should be humans,

00:43:12.880 but, but fine. Well, guess what? Friends need boundaries. The dog is your friend. Fine. Do you,

00:43:20.680 do you sleep in bed with your friends, especially if you're a man? Do you, do you let your friends

00:43:25.380 lick your face? If you saw your friend licking his own butt, would you then let him lick? Would you be 1.00

00:43:32.900 his friend anymore in the first place? Let's be serious. Okay. Don't let the dog, if you want to

00:43:39.300 have a dog and a pet, whatever, fine. But let, and then you smell, you smell like a dog and no one 0.60

00:43:44.300 tells you. You're sleeping in dog scented sheets and blankets and you're, and you're walking out

00:43:53.400 smelling like a dog, but nobody will tell you that you smell that way. And part of the reason is that

00:43:59.540 60% of the rest of the, of the country also smells like dogs. And then the rest of us, we're walking

00:44:06.220 around and while we're smelling is dog everywhere. Dog and, and the scent of dogs and weed. That is

00:44:13.920 like America, right? That's this, that is what America smells like. You get it. You, if you come

00:44:18.280 here from another country, you land, you get off the plane, it's immediately what you smell because

00:44:21.160 that's just everywhere. Anyway, let's get to the comment section.

00:44:26.380 So we're going to do the comment section a little bit differently now because the show

00:44:39.800 is not, uh, the full show is not on YouTube. So I'm going to try to, we still have the clips

00:44:44.440 on YouTube, but I was pulling from there, but I'm going to try to pull from Twitter because

00:44:48.900 we do post the full show on Twitter. And so we'll, uh, pull some comments from there.

00:44:53.540 So this one is, uh, not even, it's not actually a comment under the show, but I just wanted

00:44:57.140 to, I wanted to put this up on the screen. This is from the account Mup Walsh and a springtime

00:45:02.580 is here. There's nothing better than bourbon in the sun. So someone made a puppet of me

00:45:06.660 and, uh, you know, it even has the tattoo and all of that. And I have to say, aside from the

00:45:11.120 fact, the only thing they got wrong is that, uh, I don't, I never drank my whiskey on rocks.

00:45:15.360 I don't know why people do that, but the risk is always neat. Other than that, it really

00:45:19.020 looks a lot like me and, um, stunningly accurate portrayal. And I'm not sure what it says about

00:45:25.780 me that I can be so accurately rendered by a puppet. I showed this to my wife. She said

00:45:30.140 that looks exactly like you. And I said, okay, like calm down a little bit. So you're saying

00:45:34.620 I, not exactly right. I mean, I'm not like a literally a Muppet looking person, but apparently

00:45:40.420 I am because you can hardly tell the difference. It's like, this is like the before. And this

00:45:47.400 is like the Ryan Webb before and after you can't even tell. Um, so that's good stuff. All right.

00:45:53.740 At Dave blend says, thank God you homeschool your kids, or at least your wife does. Do you even see

00:45:59.080 them? You're so busy railing about other people's kids. How would you find the time? Also, at least

00:46:03.800 one of your kids is definitely gay. Sorry. Well, it's true, Dave. I see my kids less often than my 1.00

00:46:10.780 wife sees them. And that's because, uh, I have a job. I have something called a job. That might be

00:46:16.360 a foreign concept to you. I realize, but I have a job. I earn money. I support my family. I bring it

00:46:20.740 home for my family. And my wife does, uh, most of the homeschooling because she's at home with the

00:46:26.720 kids. And that's generally how we are. We divide things and it's worked out pretty well so far.

00:46:30.620 Six kids and counting. We're doing well. As to your last statement, you know, my,

00:46:33.800 my oldest kids are, and I know that, um, I know that you groomer freaks on the left. This is

00:46:39.380 something you really enjoy doing. And I get comments like this all the time about my own

00:46:43.640 kids, but you know, my oldest kids are nine years old. So do you often sit around fantasizing about

00:46:49.640 the sexual orientations of elementary school children? You pervert, how much time in your 0.99

00:46:55.580 day do you dedicate to that? Anyway, thanks for your comment. Uh, at JK Linder says, 0.99

00:47:02.900 I've never seen you complain about child beauty pageants. That is way more grooming than anything

00:47:08.760 happening in schools. You know, I have to say on the left, you guys have a lot of really dumb 1.00

00:47:15.000 straw man arguments that you use, but this is the dumbest. And it's another very common one. I see it 0.99

00:47:19.800 all the time. Um, and I realized it's, it's quite a statement to say that this is the dumbest straw man 1.00

00:47:25.060 used by the left, but it's in the running. I don't, maybe I won't say, I was not going to say 0.83

00:47:28.560 the dumbest, but it's like top five. So, um, you support drag shows for children and drag shows 0.97

00:47:37.360 starring children, but you can't even begin to defend that practice. So instead you start babbling

00:47:43.340 about child beauty pageants, except that nobody is defending child beauty pageants. Who, who is

00:47:51.140 defending that? Can you find me like the article that some conservative has written or done something

00:47:56.200 on a talk show or pundit or like who conservative commentator got up and made a stirring defense of

00:48:02.620 child beauty pageants. Who's defending that? Nobody is. I haven't heard a single conservative

00:48:08.480 advocate, you know, we need, we need more child beauty pageant. Haven't heard, haven't heard that

00:48:12.780 anywhere because it's not happening. The reason it doesn't come up, the reason we don't talk about

00:48:19.720 child beauty pageants and we don't spend a lot of time, you know, um, uh, discussing the problems

00:48:26.100 with them is precisely because nobody is defending them. Nobody is claiming that it would be genocidal

00:48:34.800 to shut down a child beauty pageant. Nobody is saying that it's essential to their lifestyle

00:48:39.800 that child beauty pageants exist. Nobody is saying that they have the constitutional right

00:48:44.660 to put their little girl in a child beauty pageant. When child beauty pageants are shut down and many

00:48:51.100 of them have been, thank God, there's, there's no marches in the streets of people claiming that

00:48:56.440 their, their lives are in jeopardy now because there's no child beauty pageant. That's not happening.

00:49:02.280 There's no one trying to promote or normalize this stuff. There was that show, that show on TLC like 15

00:49:06.800 years ago, the reality show about child beauty pageants, but it was canceled largely because everyone

00:49:12.000 finds it creepy and weird. And even when it was on the air, I never watched it, but presumably it

00:49:17.380 existed mainly knowing TLC, it existed mainly to gawk at it, you know, sort of gawk at the freakazoid

00:49:23.520 parents who get their kids involved in this stuff. But what about child drag shows? Well, in that case,

00:49:30.320 there's an entire ideological movement seeking to promote and normalize it and celebrate it.

00:49:37.060 And though you are opposed to child beauty pageants, you love the child drag shows.

00:49:44.380 So the inconsistency and hypocrisy is entirely on your end. How about this? You want to ban child

00:49:51.360 beauty pageants? Fine. Let's ban them. Absolutely. Sounds great to me. Okay. You can't put your nine

00:49:58.640 year old girl in a beauty pageant. We're not doing that. Fine. Ban them. Ban them all. Ban them 1.00

00:50:02.440 everywhere. Great. Let's do that. Okay. Now that we've agreed on that, what about the child drag 1.00

00:50:08.280 shows? Oh, there, there, there, you're perfectly fine with it. So you think that it's wrong to dress

00:50:14.320 little girls up and parade them around on stage. You're right about that. Yeah. You think that it's

00:50:19.080 fine to dress little boys up like girls and parade them around on stage. So your only problem with a 0.99

00:50:26.660 child beauty pageant is that it's, is that they're girls. You take that exact same thing, exact same

00:50:32.980 outfits and everything and put it on a boy and you have tears welling up in your eyes. You're so,

00:50:39.040 you're so excited about it. But, but it's even worse because the, the child drag shows, like they're

00:50:45.060 happening at bars and people are throwing money at the children. Something that never happens as far

00:50:51.720 as I know at a child beauty pageant. As far as I know that we're doing child beauty pageants at,

00:50:55.380 at, at, at gay bars with people handing out money. So child beauty pageants are bad and creepy.

00:51:04.020 Child drag shows are 10 times worse. It takes all the bad things about the child beauty pageants and, 1.00

00:51:10.840 and makes them all worse by a factor of like 10. And yet you defend and celebrate the worst thing.

00:51:21.720 Um, and, uh, at accretionist says, yes, respecting LGBT people is difficult for you. And asking for

00:51:30.400 that respect is brainwashing. We understand witless sadism, Matt. Well, I'm sure you do. As far as

00:51:36.660 brainwashing, what I'm objecting to is, you know, providing pornographic books to children in school

00:51:41.660 and talking to seven year olds about their sexuality and gender identity. Um, that's the brainwashing that

00:51:47.520 I'm very much objecting to. You are saying that doing all of those things is apparently necessary

00:51:53.360 for respecting LGBT people. So when I say, don't put the porn in the schools, don't, don't talk to 1.00

00:51:59.240 six year olds about their, uh, sexuality. Well, I say that. And then you say, well, you don't respect

00:52:04.640 LGBT people. So you are setting that as a standard for respect. You're saying that in order to respect

00:52:12.340 LGBT people, we have to allow this sexual, sexual, sexualizing of children. That's what you're 1.00

00:52:16.780 saying. And if those two things do go hand in hand, as you claim, then I guess I don't respect

00:52:23.300 LGBT people. If you are correct, that the only way to respect LGBT people is to openly sexualize kids, 1.00

00:52:31.520 then, then I guess I don't respect them. If that's what respect means, right? I mean, is,

00:52:38.920 is, so really this is up to you to decide, is it possible to respect LGBT people as human beings

00:52:45.060 without sexualizing kids? You say that it's not possible. And if that's true, well, it's an easy

00:52:51.940 choice for me to make. I guess I'm not respecting them because it's much more important to defend

00:52:57.160 children. But I, but I do really wonder why do those two things go hand in hand? Like why, according

00:53:01.280 to you, why is that such an, an integral part of LGBT culture, quote unquote, as you seem to think it

00:53:09.240 is. Finally, uh, at TLSmith1963 says churches are right-wing brainwashing factories. Okay. Maybe

00:53:18.560 using Twitter for the segment of the show was actually a mistake. Uh, it's a very different,

00:53:23.020 it's a very different tone. Um, or maybe it's a great idea. I don't know. It's like one or the other.

00:53:27.440 So it's either a disaster or it's the best idea I've had on the show in a long time.

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00:54:29.120 I was sitting on the couch yesterday morning and like most Sunday mornings, I was reading some

00:54:33.800 books to my three-year-old daughter and we enjoy many different books. We enjoy reading Dr. Seuss,

00:54:40.380 If You Give a Mouse a Cookie, all the classics. But one of our favorite book series is Frog and Toad.

00:54:46.120 Each book in the series, if you're not familiar, tells of the exploits of two characters,

00:54:50.120 a frog and a toad named Frog and Toad. Amphibious friends who get into all sorts of adventures such

00:54:55.680 as flying kites and building snowmen and riding bicycles. I've been a Frog and Toad fan going back

00:55:00.660 30 years to my own early childhood. In fact, Frog and Toad provided me with my very first public

00:55:06.380 speaking opportunity. In second grade, the teacher selected me to read one of the Frog and Toad books

00:55:12.900 in its entirety aloud to the class. And it was a great honor because usually, you know, you read

00:55:19.060 like a page or something, but I got to read the whole book. Pretty big deal. And I captivated and

00:55:24.940 thrilled my audience by not only reading the story flawlessly, but even using different voices for

00:55:29.820 Frog and Toad. It was a bold, creative decision and it paid off wonderfully. Anyway, as I was reading

00:55:35.500 one of the books to my daughter yesterday, the thought occurred to me that maybe there's a Frog

00:55:42.180 and Toad TV show that we can watch. I'd never thought to look for one before, but it seemed

00:55:46.660 like the kind of thing that might've aired on PBS back in like 1993. But you would think that I would

00:55:51.780 have heard of it back then if it had existed as a Frog and Toad diehard as I was back then.

00:55:57.100 So after we finished the book, I looked it up to see if there was a show. And as it happens,

00:56:01.500 great coincidence, there is a Frog and Toad series which just debuted last week on Apple TV. And I

00:56:08.740 was excited about the news. But then the cynical part of my brain took over. If this was a PBS show

00:56:16.620 from 1993, well, there'd be nothing to worry about. These days though, we know that no kids show is

00:56:22.540 safe, even one as innocent and charming as Frog and Toad. So I realized that I need to do a little bit

00:56:28.900 more research to make sure that nothing has been done to woke-ify the stories. But then as I started

00:56:34.960 to do that, I thought to myself, come on, you know, what are you worried about? What are they going to

00:56:38.980 do to Frog and Toad? What, are they going to turn them into gay lovers or something? Let's be serious. 0.99

00:56:44.200 Well, it only took about five seconds of Googling to pull up this headline on the Daily Beast.

00:56:48.860 Quote, Frog and Toad are still gay in Apple's new kid show. Not just gay, you notice, still gay, 0.93

00:56:56.700 because they were gay all along, we're told. Indeed, the subheading tells us that fans cherish 0.93

00:57:01.560 the book for being gay. Quote, the creator of Apple TV Plus's new Frog and Toad series talks

00:57:08.540 through bringing the children's book characters to life and not being afraid of the queer subtext

00:57:13.680 so many fans cherish. We're then treated to an interview with Rob Hoagie, who's the showrunner

00:57:19.840 for the new Apple TV series and the man entrusted with the job of bringing the work of the late

00:57:24.100 children's author Arnold Lobel to life. Reading from the article, it says, quote,

00:57:28.600 the new series follows the titular pals going through the events of those classic short stories.

00:57:34.060 Cranky Toad refuses to get out of bed in the morning, but an energetic Frog bothers him until

00:57:38.420 he rouses. A wistful Toad yearns to receive a letter in his mailbox, so Frog writes him one,

00:57:43.760 but reveals what the letter says before it can arrive at Toad's stoop. Little tales of small gestures

00:57:48.800 guide children and older folks through the commitment of friendship. Just because Frog and Toad

00:57:53.360 are very different creatures doesn't mean they'll never see eye to eye. Well, it all sounds innocent

00:57:58.440 and fun so far, right? How could it not be? These are very simple stories geared towards very young

00:58:04.400 children. But then we get to this part. Quote, Hoagie found it important to consider the queer 0.99

00:58:10.360 subtext of the Frog and Toad books. A significant number of his cast and crew identify as LGBTQ+, Hoagie

00:58:16.820 says, and he aspired, quote, to make sure that everyone felt that they were being heard and their

00:58:21.740 contribution, their Frog and Toad, lived on in whatever shape that was. You can't deny it,

00:58:27.360 Hoagie says. It's part of the books. It's part of the legacy. Though Frog and Toad are simply called

00:58:32.300 friends in the series and in the books, Arnold Lobel came out to his family as gay in 1974 after

00:58:37.500 the books had been published. In a 2016 interview with The New Yorker, Adrian Lobel called the books

00:58:42.780 the beginning of him coming out. Over the years, Frog and Toad have become gay icons. There are shirts

00:58:48.820 that read, Frog and Toad are gay. Even when the series was announced, Them wrote an article 0.87

00:58:53.520 headlined, everyone's favorite queer couple, Frog and Toad, are coming to TV. Quote, what we wanted to

00:58:59.380 do here is create a faithful adaptation of the books, Hoagie says. For people, a lot of readers

00:59:04.220 of a certain age, Frog and Toad as characters seen through a queer lens is hugely important to them.

00:59:09.280 We can't deny anyone that meaning to them as far as these characters go. If that's how you see the

00:59:13.660 characters in the book, it's fair to say that you will have the opportunity to see a similar

00:59:17.300 viewpoint in the show as well. Okay, so a few things here. First of all, the conservatives,

00:59:26.760 the right, we're always accused of turning everything into a culture war. But as usual,

00:59:33.060 that accusation is nothing but projection from the left. And in fact, that's what's going to happen.

00:59:37.880 That's what's going to happen in reaction to this very segment that you're currently listening to.

00:59:42.160 Okay, Media Matters is going to take it and they're going to say,

00:59:44.860 Matt Walsh goes on unhinged rant about Frog and Toad, acting like we're the ones who have made it

00:59:52.520 ideological and political. We're the ones who have found some sort of messaging in it, when in fact,

00:59:58.040 it's they're telling us that they put the messaging in the show. They are the ones who won't allow

01:00:04.920 anything at all to remain outside of the culture war. Look, nobody is arguing that Frog and Toad was

01:00:12.160 originally conservative or right-wing or that it was anti-gay or that it promoted biblical marriage.

01:00:18.580 We aren't asking that Frog and Toad be restored to its original purpose of promoting the conservative

01:00:23.160 position on culture war issues. No, we're not saying that. It was just a story about a frog and a toad who

01:00:29.580 were friends and went on adventures. It was utterly neutral on the question of homosexuality. It didn't

01:00:35.220 render a verdict. It was not concerned with the issue. And that was okay. More than okay. It's what

01:00:43.260 we should be able to expect of children's entertainment. Okay, the author of the book came

01:00:48.500 out as gay. So what? What, are you saying that gay people are incapable of creating something that has

01:00:54.360 nothing to do with being gay? He might have been gay, but the story that he wrote down and illustrated 0.97

01:01:00.560 was just about a frog and a toad who were friends. That's what it was. LGBT activists cannot allow 1.00

01:01:08.040 anything to be neutral. Everybody and everything and every show and every book and every story

01:01:13.320 must take a position on the LGBT issue, the only issue they care about. And of course, 1.00

01:01:19.100 that position must be one of full acceptance of whatever LGBT activists believe in whatever they

01:01:23.480 want to do. We should understand that according to the left, you know, we are all sexual beings and

01:01:29.760 only sexual beings. There's nothing else about us that matters. We are walking, talking sets of

01:01:35.120 genitals, wandering around and looking for other sets to bump into, according to them. They look out 0.98

01:01:41.120 at the world through this lens of compulsive sexual preoccupation. They cannot conceive of anything as

01:01:49.520 existing apart from that. Even a children's book about a frog and a toad gets sucked into this sex 1.00

01:01:56.560 obsessive whirlwind. Everything does. Nothing escapes. Stories of male friendship especially do not

01:02:03.840 escape. You know, it's naturally hard enough for boys to form deep and meaningful friendships with each

01:02:09.100 other. It's even harder as they grow older, become men. Because as guys, you know, we don't we don't typically

01:02:14.000 like to do things like talk and share our feelings. And we can more easily become totally absorbed in our

01:02:20.340 work and our responsibilities and our hobbies, you know, the things that we do. And we can become

01:02:25.660 completely invested in that and leaving no time for friendships and sometimes, oftentimes, no desire

01:02:30.580 for them, which isn't actually healthy. It's not a good thing. And that's why it's important to emphasize

01:02:35.400 the value of friendship, especially to boys, and to provide examples of it. Even, you know, these innocent,

01:02:42.680 childish kind of examples in children's books. But those examples are being systematically taken away as the

01:02:48.780 left insists that every male friendship has a homoerotic subtext. This has the effect of making

01:02:54.960 male friendships seem even less desirable to the males themselves. Like, I can't think of a better way

01:03:01.880 to make sure that boys don't become friends with each other than by having the left sitting there and 0.98

01:03:07.940 pointing to every example of male friendship in pop culture and saying, oh, they must be gay.

01:03:12.020 Why else would they be hanging out so much? It's like you're intentionally trying to dissuade

01:03:18.360 boys from becoming friends with each other. It's almost as if you're intentionally trying to

01:03:23.580 create more isolation, more loneliness, less companionship, which of course is exactly what

01:03:29.980 they're doing. Second, perhaps the most telling line from the show Runner Hoagie is this. He says,

01:03:35.240 remember, for readers of a certain age, Frog and Toad is characters seen through a queer lens

01:03:39.280 that's hugely important to them, for readers of a certain age. In other words, for grown gay adults

01:03:46.080 who have baptized these fictional characters as queer icons, it is very important that the imagined

01:03:52.440 gay subtext remain in place. But these are not stories for adults. At least they aren't supposed to be. 0.94

01:04:00.740 You know, it would be very strange for an adult to sit in the living room by himself and watch Frog and Toad.

01:04:06.700 Just as it'd be very strange for him to sit there by himself and read a stack of Frog and Toad books,

01:04:11.300 these are meant for children. We are meant to introduce our children to these stories and

01:04:16.540 experience the stories with them. But children are supposed to be the focus, not adults. And yet,

01:04:24.420 even putting the gay stuff aside, we see again how a generation of overgrown adolescent 30-somethings, 0.96

01:04:30.280 suffocating in their nostalgia for the past, continually insist that the characters and stories of their

01:04:36.000 childhood remain in their possession, that these things continue to cater to them, instead of

01:04:43.460 passing those things on to the next generation of children, which is how this is supposed to work. 0.79

01:04:50.140 No, instead, everything is made gay. Alex Jones was right once again. They really are turning the 0.97

01:04:57.560 frickin' Frogs gay. And the frickin' Toads too. And that is why my old friends, Frog and Toad, 0.99

01:05:03.460 most certainly are not cancelled. But the people responsible for this gayified adaptation 0.98

01:05:08.080 are today and forever, and with great prejudice, cancelled. That'll do it for this portion of

01:05:15.340 shows. Move over to the members' block. Hope to see you there. If not, talk to you tomorrow. Godspeed.

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The Matt Walsh Show - May 01, 2023

Ep. 1155 - White Male Republican Bravely Comes Out As A Transracial Lesbian Woman Of Color

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