Ep. 1155 - White Male Republican Bravely Comes Out As A Transracial Lesbian Woman Of Color
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Summary
A conservative politician has made a stunning and heroic announcement. He is actually a woman of color. Yet, for some reason, his transgender and transracial identity is being hatefully rejected by leftists who are calling for his removal from office. Also, Montana is the latest state to ban child castration and mutilation. Democrats in Nebraska weep tears of joy after a bill banning abortion after six weeks fails. Bill Maher wonders about the origins of the, quote, woke mind virus. And, speaking of which, the woke cult has now come for my favorite book series from my childhood, Frog and Toad. And now they ve really gone too far.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, a white male conservative Republican politician has made
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a stunning and heroic announcement. He is actually a woman of color. Yet for some reason,
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his transgender and transracial intersectional identity is being hatefully rejected by leftists
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who are calling for his removal from office. We'll talk about this today. Also, Montana is
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the latest state to ban child castration and mutilation. Democrats in Nebraska weep tears
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of joy after a bill banning abortion after six weeks fails. Bill Maher wonders about the origins
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of the, quote, woke mind virus. And speaking of which, the woke cult has now come for my favorite
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book series from my childhood, Frog and Toad. And now they've really gone too far. All of that and
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Over the past several years, it's been fascinating to watch legions of grown adults who have lived their
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entire lives up to this moment, believing in and not remotely questioning the objective and immutable
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reality of biological sex, suddenly adopt a viewpoint diametrically at odds with everything
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they said and seemed to think until now. None of them have ever explained this dramatic change
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of heart. None of them have ever told us what arguments convinced them or what else may have
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prompted their road to Damascus conversion. All we know is that all of these people, including most
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of the most prominent people in politics and media and Hollywood, all now believe or claim to believe
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that identity is fluid and sex is on a spectrum and men can become pregnant and women can have
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penises and so on. As just the latest example, Republican presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy
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appeared on Meet the Press on Sunday, where he was grilled by Chuck Todd over his bigoted belief
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that women have two X chromosomes and men have XY chromosomes. Chuck Todd has been on television for
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many years for some reason. And yet, if you were to go back through his catalog and the hundreds upon
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hundreds of hours of footage, you will likely find no indication until about 14 seconds ago
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that he denies the objective existence of men and women as biological categories.
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If he had believed this 10 years ago or 15 years ago, you'd think that it'd be the kind of thing
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that might come up on occasion, but it never did. And yet, here he is now.
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But below the age of 18, I think it's perfectly legitimate to say that we won't allow genital mutilation
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or chemical castration through puberty blockers for the purpose of gender transition.
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You're calling it that, but how do you know it's that? Again, how do you know, are you confident
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that you know that gender is as binary as you're describing it? Are you confident that it isn't a
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spectrum? You know this as a scientist? Well, there's two X chromosomes. If you're a woman,
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an X and a Y, that means you're a man. There's a lot of scientific research out there that says
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gender is a spectrum. Chuck, I respectfully disagree. Gender dysphoria for most of our history,
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all the way through the DSM-5, has been characterized as a mental health disorder.
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And I don't think it's compassionate to affirm that. I think that's cruelty.
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When a kid is crying out for help, what they're asking for is, you've got to ask the question of
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what else is going wrong at home? What else is going wrong at school? Let's be compassionate
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and get to the heart of that, rather than playing this game as though we're actually changing
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our medical understanding for the last 100 years. I go back to this. If a parent is dealing with
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the child that has these, that may have these issues, trust me, the parent, the last thing
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they want to do is consider something like this. But if that is what they think could help their
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child pursue happiness, or they're not to kill themselves, why take away that option?
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A lot of scientific research, he says. He assures us. How do we know that gender is on a spectrum and
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that some men have uteruses? Well, the scientific research. What scientific research? Well, you know,
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the ones that scientists do. Which scientists? Well, stop asking questions, you bigot.
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Chuck also insists that we must systematically castrate and sterilize children in order to stave off
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suicide. This is another viewpoint that I'm willing to wager Chuck never once expressed or even hinted at
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until very recently. But now he's quite sure of it, but we can't actually explain why. Many such cases,
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a great many such cases, and that is exactly why in this age of extreme, and you might even say
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pathological acceptance, I was so personally disheartened and frankly stunned to see the same
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acceptance withheld from one of the great transgender trailblazers of our time. Ryan Webb is a Republican
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councilman in Delaware County, Indiana. He is, or I should say, was a white male conservative. But
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earlier this month, Webb made a courageous announcement. He came out as a trans woman of color.
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Here's the local news reporting on the StoryWatch.
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Councilman is coming out as a transgender, as transgender and a woman of color. Delaware County
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Councilman Ryan Webb announced that he now identifies as an Indian American woman.
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Since that announcement, he's received some support, but a lot of backlash,
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many calling him childish, despicable, even calling for things like execution.
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In a statement Webb gave to IT Made, he says, quote,
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it is unfortunate that I cannot simply be given the same space and respect to explore my identity that so
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many of those targeting me demand for themselves. It's possible I may change my mind down the road.
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The process of identity exploration is complex, and oftentimes at the end of our personal journey,
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we end right back where we started. Webb goes on to tell IT Made this is just his true authentic self.
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Incredible. Our brave sister, Mrs. Ryan Webb, has come out of three closets all at once.
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She reveals herself to be a woman, a person of color, and a lesbian. Mrs. Webb has pulled off
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the intersectional hat trick. And here she is on Facebook announcing her truth to the world.
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Quote, after much consideration, I've decided to come out and finally feel comfortable announcing
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my true authentic self. It is with great relief that I announce to everyone that I identify as a
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woman, not just any woman, but as a woman of color as well. I guess this would make me a gay
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slash lesbian as well, since I'm attracted to women.
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That felt good to finally get out there and start living life as my true self.
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I'm excited to bring some diversity to the county council. Until today,
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we didn't have any females of color or LGBTQIA PC++ on the council. I'm glad that now we do.
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Mrs. Webb goes on to note that she is, in fact, the first
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lesbian woman of color in the history of Delaware County to ever serve on their council.
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And that's just one of the glass ceilings that she has shattered.
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But perhaps the most remarkable thing has been Mrs. Webb's physical transformation.
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They only very briefly showed. We'll put it up on the screen again. You can clearly see
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the before and after. Who can deny her lived experience after seeing a photo comparison
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like this? She was a run of the mill white male before, but now she is a beautiful, vibrant black
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woman. If you put Mrs. Webb in a room with Meghan Markle, you would hardly be able to tell who is who.
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And yet, in the year 2023, no less, Mrs. Webb's trans identity has been viciously rejected
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and ridiculed by the very people who claim to be defenders of trans rights. She has been even
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doxxed and harassed and threatened and protested. At the most recent council, county council meeting,
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transphobic leftists showed up in mass to call for her removal simply for being transgender.
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Here's one woman repeatedly misgendering Mrs. Webb, even while accusing her of, quote,
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The actions that Ryan has taken are very embarrassing to the city of Muncie at this point.
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If you're transgender, that's fine. He is creating a conflict against some transgenders based on his
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post. And the fact that, you know, he's flaunting the minority, you know, lesbian as such, as the first
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council person as a lesbian. And I just, I don't understand why he would trash transgenders in one post
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and the very next day decide that he is transgender. It creates a divide. We have transgenders all over
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Muncie. And they have the right to be respected. And he has diminished some of that respect to them.
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And he's also diminished some of that respect to minority women,
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I am, I feel that he has basically made a hate speech in this post on April 11th.
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And I feel that he should resign. And if he doesn't, I would, I would look at county council
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to talk to legal and see what they can do about removing him because he has created some hate.
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She doesn't understand. She says, well, ma'am, it's not Ryan's job to help you understand.
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BIPOC women in this country already do enough emotional labor. Thank you. It's not up to them
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to make you feel comfortable. If you don't understand, that's your problem and something
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you ought to frankly keep to yourself. Stop demanding that queer people explain themselves.
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Stop burdening marginalized people with your ignorance. But we should expect a cis white
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woman to be so obtuse. The really astounding thing is that even Ryan's fellow trans women,
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her alleged compatriots, heaps scorn on her. Watch this.
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Councilperson Ryan Webb announced publicly on social media and to several news outlets
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that he now identifies as a lesbian woman of color, retaining his male pronouns and bragging that he is
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now the first, this is a quote, LGBTQ plus woman of color to ever sit on the Delaware County Council
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and claiming to have shattered the local glass ceiling, end quote. If he were serious, I'd sing his praises.
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We all do. I know better because of his history of making hateful anti-trans statements on social media
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and just disrespecting one's pronouns. He has purposely and intentionally misgendered me,
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ridiculing my own gender identity. That's not something transgender people do to one another.
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He is being disingenuous and his words not only embarrass himself, but you, the county council.
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His comments are disgraceful and they fall below our expectations of an elected official whose job it is
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to represent all his constituents. He no longer deserves to serve on this council and I ask him to resign.
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Well, it is a shame to hear such bigotry coming from such a beautiful woman. I have to admit though,
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it was a little confusing to watch. On the one hand, I was horrified by the racism and internalized
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transphobia. On the other hand, I was kind of delighted and nostalgic because she reminded me of the
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Chris Farley lunch lady skit. And I mean that in a good way, of course. It's the highest compliment that I can
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give to a woman. And unfortunately, it's the only compliment I can give to someone so hate-filled and
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intolerant. It's a shame to see a trans woman climb the ladder to societal acceptance and then try to pull it up
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after her, leaving Ryan Webb stranded down below. Yet another woman of color abandoned by the system.
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There are many moments like this at the meeting. One person after another getting up to deliver a
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lecture to Ryan. All of them calling for her to resign or be thrown out. Well, he could only sit,
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I mean, she could only sit in dignified silence like so many BIPOC and queer women before her.
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Here's just one more example. Watch. First of all, I cannot believe that I had to take time
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out of my day today to attempt to teach a grown man how to behave appropriately.
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Ethics as defined are moral principles that govern a person's behavior or conducting of an activity.
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Ryan Webb's lack of professionalism is outstanding and absolutely unethical.
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I've worked for the past 21 years. Many people here work your whole life, you know. And as we all know,
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jobs require a certain amount of integrity to be exercised. In none of my jobs in the last 21 years,
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and that is many, many jobs, would I have been permitted to mock and disrespect my customers?
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She's had many, many jobs. Apparently she's good at getting jobs, but not keeping them. You know,
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I wonder why. In any case, you get the idea. Ryan Webb, Delaware County's first POC lesbian woman to
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ever serve in the county council has been rejected by his own, I mean, her own community. It falls then
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to the nation's leading LGBT children's author to come to her defense. And I will only say this
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to everybody on the left. I'm sorry, but this is your bed. You have made it for yourself. And now
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you must lay in it. You don't get to reject anyone's truth. You do not have permission to be
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skeptical of anyone's claims about their own identity. And it's not me or Delaware County's
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first queer BIPOC councilwoman, Ryan Webb, who have denied you permission. You have denied it.
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You have set the rules for your own game. And those rules are exceedingly simple and clear.
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They may also be insane. You know, the rules might be insane, but that's your problem.
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The rules stipulate that a person's physical body has no bearing on any part of their identity. We all
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have our own truth, our own lived experience, and we are able to determine who and what we are.
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Nothing external can make this determination. Certainly no other person can decide for us.
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We may decide, you know, on one identity one day and something else the next. And every new identity
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is completely valid and requires no justification or explanation at all. These are your rules.
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You've been very explicit about this. If Ryan Webb was a critic of trans ideology
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and then decided the next day that she actually is trans, well, that's her truth. It's her journey.
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So you can say, I don't understand. How could you be saying this yesterday than this today?
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It's not for you to understand. She said it. This is, this is her exploring her identity.
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And sometimes you end up back where you started. I thought that was a very profound statement.
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This is her experience. You have no basis for rejecting it or arguing against it.
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Now it's true. You know, you do like to pretend that this principle doesn't apply to race. At least
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so far, you're still at the point where you're pretending that there's some sort of line in the
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sand here, but the line in the sand just doesn't work. Race is far more fluid than sex. It is much
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more on a spectrum. Even the phrase person of color already opens the door to everyone because we are
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all people of color. If the other option is to be colorless and translucent like deep sea creatures,
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not to open up that can of worms again. If a person with XY chromosomes and a male reproductive,
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uh, male reproductive organs can still somehow possess like the essence of a woman,
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then how much more can a person with slightly lighter skin possess the essence of a person with slightly
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darker skin. You are the ones, in fact, who even tell us that race is a social construct.
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That's anti-racism 101. You've already put race and gender into the same category. You have placed
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those two things on the same playing field. And in the same playbook, Ryan Webb is just connecting the
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dots. That's all. And now you are literally committing genocide against her. Literally.
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She is like a transracial lesbian, Martin Luther King Jr., a civil rights hero, and now a martyr.
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But I'll tell you this, no matter what you do, no matter how much you disparage and disavow her,
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no matter how much you try to silence her, even if you kick her off of the county council,
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still her courage will ring down through the generations and inspire millions for years to
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the Daily Wire. Montana became the latest state to ban sex change procedures on minors after
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Republican Governor Greg Gianforte, Gianforte, maybe we'll call him. Anyway, we'll call him Greg,
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signed a bill into law on Friday protecting children from life-altering treatments.
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Governor Greg signed Senate Bill 99 known as the Youth Health Protection Act after
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previously sending it back to the legislature for amendments. The bill bans surgeries like
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elective double mastectomies on girls who identify as boys and prohibits puberty blockers and cross-sex
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hormones for children. He is committed to protecting Montana's children from invasive
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medical treatments that can permanently alter their healthy developing bodies.
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Caitlin Price, a spokeswoman, sent in an email to the New York Times.
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In a letter to Montana Republican Senate and House leaders, Gianforte explained why he
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supported the bill. He said that the bill focused on so-called gender-affirming medical care for
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children. Gender-affirming care for children is Orwellian newspeak, a seemingly innocuous,
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even solicitous phrase that masks its true nature of permanent, invasive, life-altering medical and
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surgical procedures performed on children whose young minds and bodies are still developing.
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Um, so this finally passed through. Of course, uh, the left very upset, uh, trans activist.
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Here's Montana trans representative Zoe Zephyr. Zephyr. Again, obviously not his real name.
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I'm not sure what his real name is, but I'm sure it's not Zoe Zephyr. Like they never even choose
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names that sound remotely like a, like an actual name. Um, the names always sounds like the names
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that sound like cartoon characters. So here's Zoe Zephyr reacting to the news.
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It's important to note that this bill doesn't go into effect until October 1st,
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and we're going to do everything in our power to stop this bill. There will be court challenges and
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ultimately like bills across the country, it will get defeated in these courts. We know that these bills
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are as unconstitutional as they are cruel. Um, but it is, I think it does show the way in which
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the right in our state is beginning to shift and isn't listening to the constituents in our communities
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who are saying these bills hurt people. These bills hurt people. You know, remember, uh, when it,
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when it comes to child castration and sterilization, and, uh, when they're talking about rights, always
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remember whose rights they're referring to. And it's not the rights of the child. Okay. It's never
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the rights of the child. It's not the right of the child to be mutilated. No, it's the right of the
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medical industry to mutilate the child. That's what they're concerned about. What they're actually
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saying is that, that doctors, the medical industry has the right to do this to a child
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and profit off of it. And it's also the rights of, uh, of trans activists to brainwash children,
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trans activists, like Zoe Zephyr to, uh, to brainwash and recruit these children into the cult.
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Those are the rights that they're concerned about. But we are, as we see yet again, here we are,
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this is, we are the good news. The very good news is that, is that I believe we're winning on this
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issue. And I don't mean that we're winning on the issue of gender broadly speaking. Um, I,
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I think that ultimately we will win on that issue. I don't know that we have a lot of ground to cover,
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a lot of ground to make up. So I can't say that we're, we're covering a lot of that crowd,
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but we're not winning on it. But when it comes to specifically the issue of kids, the transing of
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kids, we are winning on that. Like we have almost all the momentum on our side, which is why on the
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other side, all they have is, is, you know, the threats and force and censorship. They're doing all
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these things because they're losing. This is, this is a sign that they're losing. You know,
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the fact that, uh, that even take YouTube, for example, as you know, demonetized on YouTube,
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I had to take the show off of YouTube because I wasn't going to toe the line. But up until recently,
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everything that I'm saying right now, say it on YouTube, wasn't a problem.
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Now it is because they realize that they're using, they're, they're losing. And the only thing
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they could do is try to shut you down. Um, and we have gained all this momentum really pretty
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quickly. Okay. We're not only seeing the, the legal victories and the laws being passed, which is great,
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but also there's been a shift in the cultural narrative where many people who previously were,
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uh, oblivious are now awake to this issue. They realize that it's going on. They're obviously
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deeply, deeply opposed to it. Most people are any sane, decent person is, is going to be deeply
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opposed to the castration, sterilization of children. And, um, and so that's the shift that
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we're, that we're seeing happening. All right. One of the cable news clip I want to play for you.
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This is a insurrectionist, Justin Pearson, who appeared on MSNBC. Um, and I just want you to
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listen to what he has to say. This is going to be the way it is you and your generation and people
00:24:32.660
like you and Zoe Zephyr and Maxwell Frost, you're not afraid to break the China.
00:24:38.820
We have to realize that we are in a really important moment in the movement, uh, not just
00:24:43.880
in a moment and for our entire generation, which recognizes that the opportunity that we have cannot
00:24:49.360
be wasted by going along with the status quo as usual. The status quo has propped up white supremacy
00:24:55.140
and patriarchy and injustice. It has created a situation where in a state like Tennessee,
00:24:59.980
we have an increase in poverty. We have some of the lowest voter turnout. We have a situation where
00:25:04.700
we have this epidemic of gun violence and the silence from leaders in the Republican Party in
00:25:09.440
our state house. And we know that things can be different and it can be better. And so in this
00:25:14.220
moment, I believe the moral courage of all of our generation is awakening to our power. And we were
00:25:20.960
told how important civics was in voting and participating in democracy. And it's a shame that in Tennessee and in
00:25:27.220
Montana, we are seeing that participation in democracy seeking to be silenced, censured or expelled
00:25:32.760
because it is advocating for a vision and a voice that needs to be heard. And it is a vision that says
00:25:38.440
every body matters, that there is a movement of people who are young and who are fearless in the face of
00:25:46.060
injustice and fearless in the face of oppression, because we know that we are part of a long storied history of people who have
00:25:52.560
built movements that have been multiracial, that have been for the true spirit of democracy, that have
00:25:58.100
helped to create the present conditions that we have to be able to sit in the seats that we have in order to
00:26:03.220
elevate the issues and the voices of our community. And we're not going to stop and we're not going to be
00:26:08.800
You know, there's a couple of funny things there. One is that you could tell he doesn't quite know how to speak
00:26:14.180
like a normal person right now because he has this character, this absurd cartoonish character that he plays
00:26:21.240
on TV when he's up there pretending to be a civil rights icon from the 1960s and doing that whole
00:26:25.020
routine. But he hasn't quite figured out. And these, you know, that's like the big over the top
00:26:31.000
moment that he's, that he can do. And I'm not going to say that he does it convincingly or does
00:26:36.660
it well, but he can do that. But it's the subtle acting that he hasn't quite figured out. And this is
00:26:43.140
also, I think this is true even of Hollywood actors. You know, it's one thing to have the big emotional
00:26:46.920
moment is one thing, but to have to capture those kind of subtler moments, that's a more
00:26:51.100
difficult acting. And so when he's giving these interviews where he's not in front of a crowd
00:26:54.960
with a bullhorn, you know, doing his whole Martin Luther King Jr. Stick, and he's just supposed to
00:27:00.260
be talking like a normal person. He doesn't quite, he sort of lapses into the character and then he
00:27:05.420
comes back out of it. He doesn't quite know how to talk like a normal person. But what did he say
00:27:09.240
there? Well, he said nothing at all. That was nothing. That was a whole rhetorical parade of nothing.
00:27:15.800
And this to me is the real tragedy, right? Like if we, if we must have extremist leftist militants in
00:27:24.980
our society, I'd prefer for them to at least be authentic. Okay. If we have to have them,
00:27:30.880
it's not the worst thing to have a culture, you know, a culture at war between two factions who
00:27:37.500
are deeply opposed to one another. It's not the best thing. It's not a good thing. You prefer not to
00:27:41.880
have that situation, but it's not the worst thing. I think the worst thing is this, where we're at
00:27:47.780
war, but we're at war with people who speak exclusively in cliches, people who are, you know,
00:27:55.940
absolutely phony, who are as human and authentic as chatbots. This is a culture war, but a very
00:28:03.820
decadent one. As so many of its participants are play acting, basically. We heard the Chuck Todd clip
00:28:12.400
at the top of the show. This is someone who doesn't buy this stuff. Well, you know, scientists say the
00:28:16.880
gender is on a spectrum. He doesn't buy that at all. He does not even, he does not believe any part of
00:28:23.020
that, but he's pretending to. All of these people are pretending, which I think just makes it all the
00:28:31.340
worse. All right. Next, we have this clip from a Bill Maher's show, which went viral. Elon Musk was
00:28:37.700
interviewed and we're just going to play a little piece of this. Here they are talking about the
00:28:42.960
origins of what Bill Maher refers to as the thing rightly refers to as the woke mind virus. Listen to
00:28:50.020
this conversation. This woke mind virus, how did it start? Was it bats? Was it an escape from a lab?
00:28:59.960
I mean, what is your assessment? Because it's fairly recent. How did it start and why?
00:29:08.080
So I was trying to figure out where it's coming from. I think it's actually been a long time brewing
00:29:12.700
in that it's, I think it's been going on for a while. The amount of indoctrination that's happening
00:29:25.020
in schools and universities is, I think, far beyond what parents realize. And I only, I sort of came to
00:29:32.700
realize this somewhat late. The experience that we had in high school and college is not the experience
00:29:40.400
that, that kids today are having. Um, and, and hasn't been for, I don't know, 10, 10 years,
00:29:46.560
maybe 20 years. So, uh, parents themselves also a big part of the problem. They, well,
00:29:53.820
I, I suppose in some cases that parents, but, but I think like the parents are just generally not
00:29:59.760
aware of what their, their kids are being taught, uh, or what they're not being taught. Um,
00:30:04.340
they're letting the kids. All right. So I agree with much of what Bill Maher says about the woke
00:30:11.000
stuff and what Elon Musk says about it. And, uh, I'm glad that Bill Maher is saying this stuff.
00:30:18.960
I do think he's in a position to reach some people who I can't really reach. And if you're,
00:30:23.880
uh, you know, if you're a full on right wing crazy, as we would be seen, uh, there are certain
00:30:30.100
people that just, no matter what we say, they're not going to listen to us. So there's a, so Bill
00:30:34.600
Maher is useful on some of these issues for that reason, but the applause that he gets on the right,
00:30:39.240
you know, the adoring applause that he gets is a little bit overdone and it's overdone because,
00:30:45.320
um, nobody is ever stopping to point out the obvious here. Okay. There's an answer to the
00:30:52.100
question that Bill Maher asks, where did the woke mind virus come from? And no, it didn't come from
00:30:56.880
bats and it wasn't grown in a lab. Um, and it didn't, it didn't fall out of the, it didn't fall
00:31:02.300
out of the sky, right? Like it didn't, it didn't, it didn't, uh, it didn't climb out of the ground or
00:31:06.880
something like some sort of, it didn't come out of the ocean like Godzilla. No, you know, the, uh,
00:31:12.900
Bill, you know, you know, what's the origin of the woke mind virus? You, you're the origin,
00:31:18.400
not just you, but liberalism, the left. Okay. The ideology you espouse, that's where it comes from.
00:31:26.880
It didn't come out of nowhere. Okay. It's you're correct in thinking that it could have just come
00:31:32.860
out of nowhere. It was born from the liberalism that you still ascribe to. It is a logical extension
00:31:41.400
of that. Okay. And this is a point that needs to be made and that conservatives need to make
00:31:48.300
rather than simply applauding and say, Oh, it's so good that someone, this is one of the good leftists.
00:31:53.360
I'm not saying that if somebody changes their mind on something that we should not allow them
00:31:58.540
to, or that we should spend all our time saying, I told you so we don't want to do that, but this
00:32:03.460
is an important, we need to make this point. And the more that people like Bill Maher can pretend
00:32:09.060
that wokeness is completely divorced from the leftism that he belongs, ascribes to and promotes,
00:32:17.320
the more that he's able to pretend that the worse it is. Because we're never actually going to defeat
00:32:24.340
the quote unquote woke mind virus. If we don't come to understand where it comes from and why it
00:32:31.980
comes in the first place. Um, and that's the really valuable car, the really valuable conversation
00:32:38.880
that we could be having and that he should be having is what is it about liberalism that gives
00:32:46.140
rise to this? All this stuff is coming from the left. Okay. All the things that he doesn't like,
00:32:55.440
and he's a problem with it rightly. So the gender stuff and the, uh, the, the shutting down debate
00:33:01.960
and conversation on college campuses. And it's like, all of that is coming from the left.
00:33:07.780
And there's a reason for that. Um, and we could talk about that answer. The answer will have a lot
00:33:12.320
to do with the fact that liberalism is fundamentally egocentric. It's fundamentally self-centered
00:33:18.140
with its intense focus on the self and, and satisfying the desires of the self.
00:33:24.860
This, this is liberalism. It's rejection of objective moral truth and of truth in general.
00:33:35.620
You know, the whole idea of, uh, of, uh, it's truth is subjective and we all have our own truth.
00:33:40.920
That again, all comes from the left. Many of their positions on many of these issues rooted in that,
00:33:47.420
in that assumption that there is no real truth. There certainly is no objective moral truth.
00:33:51.600
That's where it comes from. Um, but especially, as I said, especially it originates in
00:34:01.200
the intense, really single-minded focus on the self and on satisfying the desires and wants and perceived
00:34:14.340
needs of the self. That's, you start there and you get to everything we're experiencing right now.
00:34:24.260
All right. CNN has this report. Measures that would have severely restricted abortion failed
00:34:30.900
on Thursday in Nebraska and South Carolina, which both have Republican controlled legislatures,
00:34:34.760
a reflection of the growing unease among Republicans over the political popularity of strict bans.
00:34:39.180
In Nebraska, a heartbeat act, which would have banned most abortions after six weeks,
00:34:44.060
except in cases of rape or incest, or to preserve the life of the mother once a fetal heartbeat was
00:34:48.180
detected, stalled in the legislature. A vote to overcome a filibuster of the bill failed by a vote
00:34:53.180
of 32 to 15 with two senators abstaining, including Republican state Senator Merv Reap, uh, leaving the
00:34:59.080
measure one vote shy of the two thirds majority majority needed for full consideration.
00:35:03.540
I believe that in both states, um, these, um, pro-life bills failed by, by one bill,
00:35:11.540
one vote rather, I believe. Certainly at least in Nebraska, that was the case.
00:35:16.560
Um, the Nebraska governor said she was profoundly disappointed in the vote,
00:35:20.320
called for the bill to be reconsidered. Uh, but after the news came down that the bill had failed,
00:35:24.780
here are the Democrats in the state legislature in Nebraska reacting to the news.
00:35:47.260
Oh, think of all the babies we can kill. They're saying to themselves,
00:35:49.700
that's what they're cheering. So many babies we can kill. We can kill them all.
00:35:55.340
Kill those babies. They say tears of happiness overcome with joy. Mo move to tears, tears of
00:36:05.220
happiness at the thought of murdering your own offspring. All of those women, can you put that
00:36:10.800
up again? Not the video, just the, uh, just so we can see, so we can see these people exactly
00:36:16.660
what you expect them to look like. All these women, some of them, some of them are probably
00:36:20.780
mothers, God forbid. Um, some of them are probably mothers, mothers of living and dead children,
00:36:26.480
children that they've killed, but then probably they've sublivided. But they, and, but this is
00:36:30.740
what, you know, for most women, at least for, uh, for good women anyway, um, they're, they're moved
00:36:37.040
to tears by the, their love of their children. And in fact, my, my wife just this morning,
00:36:43.600
she was sitting there holding, uh, our, our twins, the babies. And she was like the tears in her eyes,
00:36:49.400
just looking at the babies and smiling, you know, um, which is a beautiful thing to see is that,
00:36:54.020
that's the, uh, the love, the overwhelming over, you know, overflowing love of a mother for her
00:37:01.020
children. And you can contrast that with this. So they contrast the tears of a, of a mother
00:37:08.760
who is crying over how much she loves her children and contrast it with the tears of these hideous
00:37:16.600
monstrosities, these disgusting goblins who are crying because they'll have the opportunity to
00:37:24.200
kill more of their own children. It really is repulsive. Now, here's the thing. What I'm saying
00:37:30.360
right now, if you are pro-abortion, you're likely to find defensive. I don't care if you find a
00:37:36.620
defensive or not, but you should consider the fact that, you know, if the pro-abortion arguments are
00:37:43.440
correct, if those arguments are right, which they aren't at all, not by a long shot, but if they
00:37:50.740
were correct, let's just say, let's, for the sake of argument, um, the most of those arguments could
00:37:56.180
possibly justify the furthest that you would be able to get is to a point where abortion is
00:38:01.820
begrudgingly accepted as a tragic necessity. And that's if the arguments are correct, which again,
00:38:07.720
they aren't. My point is that even if we accept the pro-abortion arguments, if we accept them all,
00:38:15.280
we say, you're right about all that. That would not get us anywhere close to that. It wouldn't get
00:38:22.600
us anywhere close to the point of popping champagne and celebrating abortion like our team just won
00:38:28.260
the Super Bowl. Because even on the, uh, in the pro-abortion worldview, what is the baby? What is the,
00:38:34.020
the, the baby in the womb? The baby is a fetus, they say. Well, that doesn't mean a fetus just
00:38:38.560
is Latin for offspring. It doesn't, it's a distinction without a difference. But they say
00:38:42.340
a fetus is, uh, is not a person. It's a potential. It's potential for a person. It is a potential
00:38:47.800
person, but not a person. Well, if that's true, then at a minimum, by, by having an abortion, you are
00:38:57.140
destroying potential life, which is still at least very sad. It's a sad thing. It's a somber. It should
00:39:06.680
be sad and somber. By your own logic, it should still be sad and somber. Destroying potential life.
00:39:15.280
I've, I've used the, uh, I've used the analogy before. It's not a perfect analogy, I realize,
00:39:20.140
but it illustrates some of the point that I'm trying to make, which is that, you know, um,
00:39:24.240
if you had a $50 million lottery ticket and someone were, and you hadn't cashed the ticket
00:39:30.020
yet. So that, you know, it's a ticket. It's not, it is not, the ticket itself is not $50 million,
00:39:35.000
right? It's just, it's, it is potential. They have to go cash it. You have to go and submit it and
00:39:39.820
right. And if somebody were to take that $50 million, $50 million winning lottery ticket and burn
00:39:46.700
it, destroy it, um, yeah, they haven't technically destroyed $50 million. Like they haven't actually
00:39:53.440
taken a whole bag of money and lit that on fire, but, and they haven't gone into a vault somewhere
00:40:00.800
and, and stolen $50 million worth of coins, but they've, they've destroyed something that was just
00:40:06.380
about to be converted to become $50 million. So that would still be a, a, a great tragedy in your
00:40:13.460
life. It would still be a horrible thing. And you would react to it, even though there is a little
00:40:18.300
bit of a distinction between it's a lottery ticket, not actually the actual money, you would react to
00:40:23.520
it, not as though you just lost a little receipt paper, but as though you just lost $50 million.
00:40:28.740
So the distinction would be so fine. And so, um, you know, uh, uh, really it would be, it would be
00:40:37.580
irrelevant. It would be an essentially irrelevant distinction for you in that moment. And that's what
00:40:43.380
on the pro-abortion people's own logic, that's what abortion is. And they're celebrating. So how do
00:40:51.940
you get to the celebration? The arguments don't take you there. Uh, what takes you there is just
00:40:56.380
religious fervor. This is pure satanic child sacrifice. It is religious fervor for abortion.
00:41:04.960
That's what takes you the rest of the way, not the arguments. All right. One other thing to mention,
00:41:14.020
important one, the Daily Mail has this report, their man's best friend. And according to research,
00:41:19.760
our trusted sleeping partner to two thirds of pet owners now share a bed with their cat or dog. A
00:41:25.620
new poll suggests the survey of 2000 people by sleep brands, silent night also discovered that
00:41:31.020
nearly one third do so every single night. But should we really be letting, uh, dogs share our
00:41:36.720
beds? While exposure to mites from pets can strengthen the immune system, experts say the
00:41:41.260
habit can run the risk of serious infection. Sharing your bed with your dog increases the chance of
00:41:45.800
them transferring microbes that sit on a dog's skin, possibly via licking feces or from their fur.
00:41:51.960
Such bugs can cause conditions including mange or even Lyme disease. You can get mange. Okay. You
00:41:58.280
could become a mangy beast just like your dog. Professor Alejandra Parade, a mite expert at the
00:42:04.340
School of Biological Sciences says, if a dog owner is immunocompromised or has a weak immune system,
00:42:10.240
even temporarily, then they should not share their bed with a dog. Yeah. If you're immunocompromised,
00:42:14.480
you shouldn't share your bed with a dog. Also, if you have any dignity at all as a human being,
00:42:17.600
you shouldn't share your bed with a dog. In summary, it goes on with all the different disgusting
00:42:21.560
diseases that you can get. Uh, but, but the summary is don't sleep with a dog in your bed,
00:42:26.900
you savages. What are you? Are you a barn animal? You're laying in bed with a flea-covered
00:42:33.960
beast right next to you? You might as well sleep on a bed of hay on in the dirt. Okay. You might as
00:42:40.120
well do that. Go, go get some, some goats and pigs and just sleep in their pin with them, their pen
00:42:48.200
rather. If you don't want to behave like a human being, you might as well cut to the chase.
00:42:54.700
And act like an, I'm telling you, this is our real problem as a society. It's maybe not the only
00:43:01.960
problem, but it is a real problem. They say that they said in the article, dogs are a man's best
00:43:07.320
friend. Okay. Like I don't, they're not my best friend. Okay. I think your friends should be humans,
00:43:12.880
but, but fine. Well, guess what? Friends need boundaries. The dog is your friend. Fine. Do you,
00:43:20.680
do you sleep in bed with your friends, especially if you're a man? Do you, do you let your friends
00:43:25.380
lick your face? If you saw your friend licking his own butt, would you then let him lick? Would you be
00:43:32.900
his friend anymore in the first place? Let's be serious. Okay. Don't let the dog, if you want to
00:43:39.300
have a dog and a pet, whatever, fine. But let, and then you smell, you smell like a dog and no one
00:43:44.300
tells you. You're sleeping in dog scented sheets and blankets and you're, and you're walking out
00:43:53.400
smelling like a dog, but nobody will tell you that you smell that way. And part of the reason is that
00:43:59.540
60% of the rest of the, of the country also smells like dogs. And then the rest of us, we're walking
00:44:06.220
around and while we're smelling is dog everywhere. Dog and, and the scent of dogs and weed. That is
00:44:13.920
like America, right? That's this, that is what America smells like. You get it. You, if you come
00:44:18.280
here from another country, you land, you get off the plane, it's immediately what you smell because
00:44:21.160
that's just everywhere. Anyway, let's get to the comment section.
00:44:26.380
So we're going to do the comment section a little bit differently now because the show
00:44:39.800
is not, uh, the full show is not on YouTube. So I'm going to try to, we still have the clips
00:44:44.440
on YouTube, but I was pulling from there, but I'm going to try to pull from Twitter because
00:44:48.900
we do post the full show on Twitter. And so we'll, uh, pull some comments from there.
00:44:53.540
So this one is, uh, not even, it's not actually a comment under the show, but I just wanted
00:44:57.140
to, I wanted to put this up on the screen. This is from the account Mup Walsh and a springtime
00:45:02.580
is here. There's nothing better than bourbon in the sun. So someone made a puppet of me
00:45:06.660
and, uh, you know, it even has the tattoo and all of that. And I have to say, aside from the
00:45:11.120
fact, the only thing they got wrong is that, uh, I don't, I never drank my whiskey on rocks.
00:45:15.360
I don't know why people do that, but the risk is always neat. Other than that, it really
00:45:19.020
looks a lot like me and, um, stunningly accurate portrayal. And I'm not sure what it says about
00:45:25.780
me that I can be so accurately rendered by a puppet. I showed this to my wife. She said
00:45:30.140
that looks exactly like you. And I said, okay, like calm down a little bit. So you're saying
00:45:34.620
I, not exactly right. I mean, I'm not like a literally a Muppet looking person, but apparently
00:45:40.420
I am because you can hardly tell the difference. It's like, this is like the before. And this
00:45:47.400
is like the Ryan Webb before and after you can't even tell. Um, so that's good stuff. All right.
00:45:53.740
At Dave blend says, thank God you homeschool your kids, or at least your wife does. Do you even see
00:45:59.080
them? You're so busy railing about other people's kids. How would you find the time? Also, at least
00:46:03.800
one of your kids is definitely gay. Sorry. Well, it's true, Dave. I see my kids less often than my
00:46:10.780
wife sees them. And that's because, uh, I have a job. I have something called a job. That might be
00:46:16.360
a foreign concept to you. I realize, but I have a job. I earn money. I support my family. I bring it
00:46:20.740
home for my family. And my wife does, uh, most of the homeschooling because she's at home with the
00:46:26.720
kids. And that's generally how we are. We divide things and it's worked out pretty well so far.
00:46:30.620
Six kids and counting. We're doing well. As to your last statement, you know, my,
00:46:33.800
my oldest kids are, and I know that, um, I know that you groomer freaks on the left. This is
00:46:39.380
something you really enjoy doing. And I get comments like this all the time about my own
00:46:43.640
kids, but you know, my oldest kids are nine years old. So do you often sit around fantasizing about
00:46:49.640
the sexual orientations of elementary school children? You pervert, how much time in your
00:46:55.580
day do you dedicate to that? Anyway, thanks for your comment. Uh, at JK Linder says,
00:47:02.900
I've never seen you complain about child beauty pageants. That is way more grooming than anything
00:47:08.760
happening in schools. You know, I have to say on the left, you guys have a lot of really dumb
00:47:15.000
straw man arguments that you use, but this is the dumbest. And it's another very common one. I see it
00:47:19.800
all the time. Um, and I realized it's, it's quite a statement to say that this is the dumbest straw man
00:47:25.060
used by the left, but it's in the running. I don't, maybe I won't say, I was not going to say
00:47:28.560
the dumbest, but it's like top five. So, um, you support drag shows for children and drag shows
00:47:37.360
starring children, but you can't even begin to defend that practice. So instead you start babbling
00:47:43.340
about child beauty pageants, except that nobody is defending child beauty pageants. Who, who is
00:47:51.140
defending that? Can you find me like the article that some conservative has written or done something
00:47:56.200
on a talk show or pundit or like who conservative commentator got up and made a stirring defense of
00:48:02.620
child beauty pageants. Who's defending that? Nobody is. I haven't heard a single conservative
00:48:08.480
advocate, you know, we need, we need more child beauty pageant. Haven't heard, haven't heard that
00:48:12.780
anywhere because it's not happening. The reason it doesn't come up, the reason we don't talk about
00:48:19.720
child beauty pageants and we don't spend a lot of time, you know, um, uh, discussing the problems
00:48:26.100
with them is precisely because nobody is defending them. Nobody is claiming that it would be genocidal
00:48:34.800
to shut down a child beauty pageant. Nobody is saying that it's essential to their lifestyle
00:48:39.800
that child beauty pageants exist. Nobody is saying that they have the constitutional right
00:48:44.660
to put their little girl in a child beauty pageant. When child beauty pageants are shut down and many
00:48:51.100
of them have been, thank God, there's, there's no marches in the streets of people claiming that
00:48:56.440
their, their lives are in jeopardy now because there's no child beauty pageant. That's not happening.
00:49:02.280
There's no one trying to promote or normalize this stuff. There was that show, that show on TLC like 15
00:49:06.800
years ago, the reality show about child beauty pageants, but it was canceled largely because everyone
00:49:12.000
finds it creepy and weird. And even when it was on the air, I never watched it, but presumably it
00:49:17.380
existed mainly knowing TLC, it existed mainly to gawk at it, you know, sort of gawk at the freakazoid
00:49:23.520
parents who get their kids involved in this stuff. But what about child drag shows? Well, in that case,
00:49:30.320
there's an entire ideological movement seeking to promote and normalize it and celebrate it.
00:49:37.060
And though you are opposed to child beauty pageants, you love the child drag shows.
00:49:44.380
So the inconsistency and hypocrisy is entirely on your end. How about this? You want to ban child
00:49:51.360
beauty pageants? Fine. Let's ban them. Absolutely. Sounds great to me. Okay. You can't put your nine
00:49:58.640
year old girl in a beauty pageant. We're not doing that. Fine. Ban them. Ban them all. Ban them
00:50:02.440
everywhere. Great. Let's do that. Okay. Now that we've agreed on that, what about the child drag
00:50:08.280
shows? Oh, there, there, there, you're perfectly fine with it. So you think that it's wrong to dress
00:50:14.320
little girls up and parade them around on stage. You're right about that. Yeah. You think that it's
00:50:19.080
fine to dress little boys up like girls and parade them around on stage. So your only problem with a
00:50:26.660
child beauty pageant is that it's, is that they're girls. You take that exact same thing, exact same
00:50:32.980
outfits and everything and put it on a boy and you have tears welling up in your eyes. You're so,
00:50:39.040
you're so excited about it. But, but it's even worse because the, the child drag shows, like they're
00:50:45.060
happening at bars and people are throwing money at the children. Something that never happens as far
00:50:51.720
as I know at a child beauty pageant. As far as I know that we're doing child beauty pageants at,
00:50:55.380
at, at, at gay bars with people handing out money. So child beauty pageants are bad and creepy.
00:51:04.020
Child drag shows are 10 times worse. It takes all the bad things about the child beauty pageants and,
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and makes them all worse by a factor of like 10. And yet you defend and celebrate the worst thing.
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Um, and, uh, at accretionist says, yes, respecting LGBT people is difficult for you. And asking for
00:51:30.400
that respect is brainwashing. We understand witless sadism, Matt. Well, I'm sure you do. As far as
00:51:36.660
brainwashing, what I'm objecting to is, you know, providing pornographic books to children in school
00:51:41.660
and talking to seven year olds about their sexuality and gender identity. Um, that's the brainwashing that
00:51:47.520
I'm very much objecting to. You are saying that doing all of those things is apparently necessary
00:51:53.360
for respecting LGBT people. So when I say, don't put the porn in the schools, don't, don't talk to
00:51:59.240
six year olds about their, uh, sexuality. Well, I say that. And then you say, well, you don't respect
00:52:04.640
LGBT people. So you are setting that as a standard for respect. You're saying that in order to respect
00:52:12.340
LGBT people, we have to allow this sexual, sexual, sexualizing of children. That's what you're
00:52:16.780
saying. And if those two things do go hand in hand, as you claim, then I guess I don't respect
00:52:23.300
LGBT people. If you are correct, that the only way to respect LGBT people is to openly sexualize kids,
00:52:31.520
then, then I guess I don't respect them. If that's what respect means, right? I mean, is,
00:52:38.920
is, so really this is up to you to decide, is it possible to respect LGBT people as human beings
00:52:45.060
without sexualizing kids? You say that it's not possible. And if that's true, well, it's an easy
00:52:51.940
choice for me to make. I guess I'm not respecting them because it's much more important to defend
00:52:57.160
children. But I, but I do really wonder why do those two things go hand in hand? Like why, according
00:53:01.280
to you, why is that such an, an integral part of LGBT culture, quote unquote, as you seem to think it
00:53:09.240
is. Finally, uh, at TLSmith1963 says churches are right-wing brainwashing factories. Okay. Maybe
00:53:18.560
using Twitter for the segment of the show was actually a mistake. Uh, it's a very different,
00:53:23.020
it's a very different tone. Um, or maybe it's a great idea. I don't know. It's like one or the other.
00:53:27.440
So it's either a disaster or it's the best idea I've had on the show in a long time.
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I was sitting on the couch yesterday morning and like most Sunday mornings, I was reading some
00:54:33.800
books to my three-year-old daughter and we enjoy many different books. We enjoy reading Dr. Seuss,
00:54:40.380
If You Give a Mouse a Cookie, all the classics. But one of our favorite book series is Frog and Toad.
00:54:46.120
Each book in the series, if you're not familiar, tells of the exploits of two characters,
00:54:50.120
a frog and a toad named Frog and Toad. Amphibious friends who get into all sorts of adventures such
00:54:55.680
as flying kites and building snowmen and riding bicycles. I've been a Frog and Toad fan going back
00:55:00.660
30 years to my own early childhood. In fact, Frog and Toad provided me with my very first public
00:55:06.380
speaking opportunity. In second grade, the teacher selected me to read one of the Frog and Toad books
00:55:12.900
in its entirety aloud to the class. And it was a great honor because usually, you know, you read
00:55:19.060
like a page or something, but I got to read the whole book. Pretty big deal. And I captivated and
00:55:24.940
thrilled my audience by not only reading the story flawlessly, but even using different voices for
00:55:29.820
Frog and Toad. It was a bold, creative decision and it paid off wonderfully. Anyway, as I was reading
00:55:35.500
one of the books to my daughter yesterday, the thought occurred to me that maybe there's a Frog
00:55:42.180
and Toad TV show that we can watch. I'd never thought to look for one before, but it seemed
00:55:46.660
like the kind of thing that might've aired on PBS back in like 1993. But you would think that I would
00:55:51.780
have heard of it back then if it had existed as a Frog and Toad diehard as I was back then.
00:55:57.100
So after we finished the book, I looked it up to see if there was a show. And as it happens,
00:56:01.500
great coincidence, there is a Frog and Toad series which just debuted last week on Apple TV. And I
00:56:08.740
was excited about the news. But then the cynical part of my brain took over. If this was a PBS show
00:56:16.620
from 1993, well, there'd be nothing to worry about. These days though, we know that no kids show is
00:56:22.540
safe, even one as innocent and charming as Frog and Toad. So I realized that I need to do a little bit
00:56:28.900
more research to make sure that nothing has been done to woke-ify the stories. But then as I started
00:56:34.960
to do that, I thought to myself, come on, you know, what are you worried about? What are they going to
00:56:38.980
do to Frog and Toad? What, are they going to turn them into gay lovers or something? Let's be serious.
00:56:44.200
Well, it only took about five seconds of Googling to pull up this headline on the Daily Beast.
00:56:48.860
Quote, Frog and Toad are still gay in Apple's new kid show. Not just gay, you notice, still gay,
00:56:56.700
because they were gay all along, we're told. Indeed, the subheading tells us that fans cherish
00:57:01.560
the book for being gay. Quote, the creator of Apple TV Plus's new Frog and Toad series talks
00:57:08.540
through bringing the children's book characters to life and not being afraid of the queer subtext
00:57:13.680
so many fans cherish. We're then treated to an interview with Rob Hoagie, who's the showrunner
00:57:19.840
for the new Apple TV series and the man entrusted with the job of bringing the work of the late
00:57:24.100
children's author Arnold Lobel to life. Reading from the article, it says, quote,
00:57:28.600
the new series follows the titular pals going through the events of those classic short stories.
00:57:34.060
Cranky Toad refuses to get out of bed in the morning, but an energetic Frog bothers him until
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he rouses. A wistful Toad yearns to receive a letter in his mailbox, so Frog writes him one,
00:57:43.760
but reveals what the letter says before it can arrive at Toad's stoop. Little tales of small gestures
00:57:48.800
guide children and older folks through the commitment of friendship. Just because Frog and Toad
00:57:53.360
are very different creatures doesn't mean they'll never see eye to eye. Well, it all sounds innocent
00:57:58.440
and fun so far, right? How could it not be? These are very simple stories geared towards very young
00:58:04.400
children. But then we get to this part. Quote, Hoagie found it important to consider the queer
00:58:10.360
subtext of the Frog and Toad books. A significant number of his cast and crew identify as LGBTQ+, Hoagie
00:58:16.820
says, and he aspired, quote, to make sure that everyone felt that they were being heard and their
00:58:21.740
contribution, their Frog and Toad, lived on in whatever shape that was. You can't deny it,
00:58:27.360
Hoagie says. It's part of the books. It's part of the legacy. Though Frog and Toad are simply called
00:58:32.300
friends in the series and in the books, Arnold Lobel came out to his family as gay in 1974 after
00:58:37.500
the books had been published. In a 2016 interview with The New Yorker, Adrian Lobel called the books
00:58:42.780
the beginning of him coming out. Over the years, Frog and Toad have become gay icons. There are shirts
00:58:48.820
that read, Frog and Toad are gay. Even when the series was announced, Them wrote an article
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headlined, everyone's favorite queer couple, Frog and Toad, are coming to TV. Quote, what we wanted to
00:58:59.380
do here is create a faithful adaptation of the books, Hoagie says. For people, a lot of readers
00:59:04.220
of a certain age, Frog and Toad as characters seen through a queer lens is hugely important to them.
00:59:09.280
We can't deny anyone that meaning to them as far as these characters go. If that's how you see the
00:59:13.660
characters in the book, it's fair to say that you will have the opportunity to see a similar
00:59:17.300
viewpoint in the show as well. Okay, so a few things here. First of all, the conservatives,
00:59:26.760
the right, we're always accused of turning everything into a culture war. But as usual,
00:59:33.060
that accusation is nothing but projection from the left. And in fact, that's what's going to happen.
00:59:37.880
That's what's going to happen in reaction to this very segment that you're currently listening to.
00:59:42.160
Okay, Media Matters is going to take it and they're going to say,
00:59:44.860
Matt Walsh goes on unhinged rant about Frog and Toad, acting like we're the ones who have made it
00:59:52.520
ideological and political. We're the ones who have found some sort of messaging in it, when in fact,
00:59:58.040
it's they're telling us that they put the messaging in the show. They are the ones who won't allow
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anything at all to remain outside of the culture war. Look, nobody is arguing that Frog and Toad was
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originally conservative or right-wing or that it was anti-gay or that it promoted biblical marriage.
01:00:18.580
We aren't asking that Frog and Toad be restored to its original purpose of promoting the conservative
01:00:23.160
position on culture war issues. No, we're not saying that. It was just a story about a frog and a toad who
01:00:29.580
were friends and went on adventures. It was utterly neutral on the question of homosexuality. It didn't
01:00:35.220
render a verdict. It was not concerned with the issue. And that was okay. More than okay. It's what
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we should be able to expect of children's entertainment. Okay, the author of the book came
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out as gay. So what? What, are you saying that gay people are incapable of creating something that has
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nothing to do with being gay? He might have been gay, but the story that he wrote down and illustrated
01:01:00.560
was just about a frog and a toad who were friends. That's what it was. LGBT activists cannot allow
01:01:08.040
anything to be neutral. Everybody and everything and every show and every book and every story
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must take a position on the LGBT issue, the only issue they care about. And of course,
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that position must be one of full acceptance of whatever LGBT activists believe in whatever they
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want to do. We should understand that according to the left, you know, we are all sexual beings and
01:01:29.760
only sexual beings. There's nothing else about us that matters. We are walking, talking sets of
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genitals, wandering around and looking for other sets to bump into, according to them. They look out
01:01:41.120
at the world through this lens of compulsive sexual preoccupation. They cannot conceive of anything as
01:01:49.520
existing apart from that. Even a children's book about a frog and a toad gets sucked into this sex
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obsessive whirlwind. Everything does. Nothing escapes. Stories of male friendship especially do not
01:02:03.840
escape. You know, it's naturally hard enough for boys to form deep and meaningful friendships with each
01:02:09.100
other. It's even harder as they grow older, become men. Because as guys, you know, we don't we don't typically
01:02:14.000
like to do things like talk and share our feelings. And we can more easily become totally absorbed in our
01:02:20.340
work and our responsibilities and our hobbies, you know, the things that we do. And we can become
01:02:25.660
completely invested in that and leaving no time for friendships and sometimes, oftentimes, no desire
01:02:30.580
for them, which isn't actually healthy. It's not a good thing. And that's why it's important to emphasize
01:02:35.400
the value of friendship, especially to boys, and to provide examples of it. Even, you know, these innocent,
01:02:42.680
childish kind of examples in children's books. But those examples are being systematically taken away as the
01:02:48.780
left insists that every male friendship has a homoerotic subtext. This has the effect of making
01:02:54.960
male friendships seem even less desirable to the males themselves. Like, I can't think of a better way
01:03:01.880
to make sure that boys don't become friends with each other than by having the left sitting there and
01:03:07.940
pointing to every example of male friendship in pop culture and saying, oh, they must be gay.
01:03:12.020
Why else would they be hanging out so much? It's like you're intentionally trying to dissuade
01:03:18.360
boys from becoming friends with each other. It's almost as if you're intentionally trying to
01:03:23.580
create more isolation, more loneliness, less companionship, which of course is exactly what
01:03:29.980
they're doing. Second, perhaps the most telling line from the show Runner Hoagie is this. He says,
01:03:35.240
remember, for readers of a certain age, Frog and Toad is characters seen through a queer lens
01:03:39.280
that's hugely important to them, for readers of a certain age. In other words, for grown gay adults
01:03:46.080
who have baptized these fictional characters as queer icons, it is very important that the imagined
01:03:52.440
gay subtext remain in place. But these are not stories for adults. At least they aren't supposed to be.
01:04:00.740
You know, it would be very strange for an adult to sit in the living room by himself and watch Frog and Toad.
01:04:06.700
Just as it'd be very strange for him to sit there by himself and read a stack of Frog and Toad books,
01:04:11.300
these are meant for children. We are meant to introduce our children to these stories and
01:04:16.540
experience the stories with them. But children are supposed to be the focus, not adults. And yet,
01:04:24.420
even putting the gay stuff aside, we see again how a generation of overgrown adolescent 30-somethings,
01:04:30.280
suffocating in their nostalgia for the past, continually insist that the characters and stories of their
01:04:36.000
childhood remain in their possession, that these things continue to cater to them, instead of
01:04:43.460
passing those things on to the next generation of children, which is how this is supposed to work.
01:04:50.140
No, instead, everything is made gay. Alex Jones was right once again. They really are turning the
01:04:57.560
frickin' Frogs gay. And the frickin' Toads too. And that is why my old friends, Frog and Toad,
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most certainly are not cancelled. But the people responsible for this gayified adaptation
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are today and forever, and with great prejudice, cancelled. That'll do it for this portion of
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shows. Move over to the members' block. Hope to see you there. If not, talk to you tomorrow. Godspeed.