Ep. 1157 - Mothers Of 'Trans Kids' Give Insane Reasons For Transitioning Their Children
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Parents of trans kids testified against a bill banning child mutilation in Louisiana. Also, the Navy is using a drag ambassador to recruit his fellow crossdressers into the military. Plus, Fox News and Media Matters try to smear Tucker Carlson and fail in spectacular fashion.
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Today on the Matt Wall Show, parents of trans kids showed up to testify against a bill banning
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child mutilation in Louisiana. We'll play the clips of a couple of these parents explaining
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how they came to understand that their children are trans. The reasons are never good, but in
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this case, they're even more insane than usual. You got to hear this. Also, the Navy is using a
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drag ambassador to recruit his fellow cross-dressers into the military. Bloomberg publishes a profile
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on the Daily Wire that I think is supposed to be a hit piece, but I kind of enjoyed it, honestly.
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Plus, Fox News and Media Matters try to smear Tucker Carlson and fail in spectacular fashion.
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All of that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.
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As the movement against child mutilation continues to grow, two more states are taking up bills that would ban
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the medical transition of minors. The Texas State House was set to debate the legislation
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yesterday, but the vote was delayed after a mob of transurrectionists stormed into the Capitol
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building demanding the right to abuse children. Here's what that looked like.
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Now, this, of course, is just the latest state Capitol to be invaded by a mob of trans activists,
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disrupting legislative process, undermining democracy, leaving behind a stench that lingers
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for weeks. Things were a bit more peaceful in Louisiana, though, where the Louisiana House
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Health and Welfare Committee held a hearing to discuss House Bill 463, which would prohibit
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doctors from sterilizing, castrating, or performing sex change surgeries on children.
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The hearing was an educational experience in a lot of ways as a number of parents of,
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quote-unquote, trans kids, testified to the necessity of, quote-unquote, gender-affirming
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care. At least they intended to show its necessity. But instead, these parents only managed to prove,
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yet again, how preposterous and irrational the left's position on this issue is. Case in point,
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here's a woman explaining how she came to discover that her daughter is really her son. And apparently,
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her daughter's love of vegetables was one of the first clues. Listen.
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He had anxiety and would never sleep, and we couldn't figure out what the problem was. We took
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him to specialists and neurologists, and he had brain scans trying to figure out why he couldn't sleep.
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Um, then, uh, as he grew, he got to sleeping. Um, but his food choices were odd. They were always,
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like, green vegetables, raw green vegetables, which, if you know kids, most kids don't like to eat those
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things. Um, and then the precocious puberty. Um, all of those things, once we figured out, uh,
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that he was transgender, when he came to us and told us, uh, that he was transgender, when we went
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back and realized that the pattern of everything, um, that he had experienced as a child, including
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eating green vegetables, because that boosts testosterone, were just methods of his body
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trying to become who he was meant to be. His brain does not match his physiology.
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Well, there it is. Who can argue? If your daughter likes to eat celery, then she must be a boy. There's
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no other explanation. Put some Brussels sprouts on your daughter's plate. If she takes a bite,
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it's time to call the sex change surgeon. Of course, by this measuring stick, it would appear that
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both of my daughters are boys, and, um, my sons are all girls. Because in my experience,
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boys are far less likely to eat their vegetables. Actually, I must be a female also, and my wife a
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man. Because if either of us is going to order the salad when we go out to dinner, it's always going
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to be her. Um, these people are, they're, they're surgically mutilating children based on gender
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stereotypes, and they don't even have the stereotypes right. Munchausen Mami also claims that her daughter's
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brain, uh, doesn't match her physiology. What she seems to be missing here is that, you know,
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your daughter's brain is part of her physiology. You might as well claim that her, her left foot
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or the pinky finger on her right hand doesn't match her physiology. All of that is her physiology.
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How could her physiology not match her physiology? How could her body be a mismatch with her body?
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It's all her body. You know, her, her brain is an organ in her body. What do you mean it doesn't
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match? Where do you think brains come from, you lunatic? Do you think children are born without
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brains and then the doctor pulls a brain out of a filing cabinet and opens up the skull and plops it
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in? Is that how the mismatch happens? What do you mean the brain doesn't match the body? What in the
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world could that possibly mean? Did he pull a brain out of the, the boy file by accident he meant to
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grab for the girl file? The claim about girls having boy brains and boys having girl brains is
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scientifically fallacious for many reasons, but we don't even need to talk about the science
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because it's also logically fallacious. It doesn't make any logical sense. We can't get to the point
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of talking about the science of it because it has to, there's no logical sense here. The definition
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of a girl brain is the brain that is inside a girl's head, a brain possessed by a girl. That's a girl
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brain. That's what a girl brain is. Every girl has a girl brain by definition. Okay. If she's a girl
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and she has a brain, then that's a girl's brain. If it's a brain that belongs to a girl, it's a girl's
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brain. Just as my, my right elbow is a man's right elbow. Okay. I have the right elbow of a man.
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How do I know that? Well, because I'm a man. It can't be anyone else's right elbow. It's mine.
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It's not the elbow of an Eskimo or a Chinese woman or a spider monkey. It is mine because it's on my
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body and I was born with it. Now it is possible to have a body part that isn't, that isn't naturally
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part of your body, but that can only occur when you undergo some sort of transplant procedure.
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And we might even get to the point, God forbid, where doctors figure out how to do brain transplants.
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But for now though, every human brain on earth naturally belongs to the body it is attached to.
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And again, you can't even say that it's attached to a body or it's in a body. It is part of the body.
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But notice something. She said that she took her daughter for brain scans,
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but they couldn't figure it out. You know, they couldn't figure out that she's really a boy until
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the girl told her parents that she's really a boy. Well, that's interesting. If the girl had a boy
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brain, why didn't the brain scan pick it up? There's so many things with this now where they
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claim, well, this and that can be detected, you know, in the brain with brain scans. Well, yeah,
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but they never do detect these things with brain scans, do they? Why isn't transgenderism diagnosed
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through brain scans if a mismatched brain is really the cause? Well, we know why. It's because
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all of the claims about mismatched brains are bogus and the people making the claims know that
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they're bogus. It's all smoke and mirrors. It is a weak attempt to lend some kind of scientific
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credibility to this superstitious nonsense. Later in the hearing, another woman sat down to give her
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own testimony, which certainly wasn't any more persuasive. Let's listen to that.
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And then I, sorry, I was Christmas shopping for them. They were 18 months old and I bought one of
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those toy tool benches and I was making the joke that, well, when one of them comes to me and says
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they're a man when they're 18, I can't say I didn't see it coming just because they kind of did draw the
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boy toys and I was just making a joke. But I am so glad I said it out loud because I have that in my
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mind now that at 18 months old, something, something somewhere was telling me what he knew
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all along. Sure. Of course. Okay. Um, but so when he could start talking, he articulated to me that he
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was a boy, mommy, I'm a boy, mommy, I'm a boy. And both of my kids did mommy, I'm a puppy, all that.
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It's, it was very different. And we drug our feet on it because what, you know, it's normal to not
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understand that obviously. Um, so we saw therapists and we saw doctors and ultimately we came to know
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what he has known all along, which is that he really is a boy. He really is. And I will be
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starting, um, gender affirming care for him. He's been seeing doctors for years and it is a very long
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process. They are very thorough. So I'm going to interrupt you just for a second. I'm going to give
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you a few extra seconds to prove that you can't have it up. Aren't they cute though? Okay.
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Okay. I'm not, I'm not giving you that much extra. Okay. But full disclosure, uh, this is a slightly
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older photo because now they are preteens and taking a photo for mom where they both smile is
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like, nah, that's lame. So, um, so now that he is, uh, almost 11 and starting puberty, we are discussing
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puberty blockers and what that would do would prevent him from growing the body of a woman because I
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promise you he's not a woman. He shouldn't be in a woman's body. And honestly, I don't think he could
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survive if we forced him into it. I really don't forced her. You don't want to force her into her
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own body into what the hell are you even trying to say? How can you force a person into their own
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body? What, what are you forcing into their body? A person is their body. Okay. They are their body.
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You are your body. Okay. You don't, you don't have a body. You are your body. It's not like the essence
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of you exists somewhere apart from your body. And then the you-ness is placed into the body like a
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hermit crab finding a shell. We are human beings. Okay. We are not aliens from independence day where
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you can open us up and find a smaller creature staring, steering our bodies around. There is no
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distinction between your daughter and her body. That's her. That is your daughter. Now I believe
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in the human soul, which means that we are not merely bodies. We are not merely fresh flesh and bones,
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humans. But the soul exists in harmony with the body. It is not a pilot operating the body like
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some kind of machine. Indeed, the only way that this kind of language, this distinction between
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the person and the body can even start to make some kind of vague sense is if you're taking into
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account the human soul. But then you would be saying that God accidentally put a boy soul into a
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girl body and we have to mutilate the body in order to correct God's mistake. But that makes even less
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sense. So whether you're considering this from an entirely materialist perspective or a non-materialist
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perspective, either way, it is illogical, insane, and barbaric. And either way, it remains correct to
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say that you are your body. That is who you are. And also, by the way, it also remains futile
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because you can't actually give your daughter a new body. Nothing you do will result in a new body.
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She is in that body. She is that body. No matter what, there's no changing it. There's no swapping
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it out for a different model. Okay, you can't trade it in at the body dealership and get a different one.
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Now, that's it. That's all you get. That's the only body you'll ever have. You can mutilate it.
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You can damage it. You can suppress its natural functions. But then she won't have a new body at
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the end of it. She'll have the same body, just a battered and broken one. But at least this woman
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isn't claiming that her daughter's affinity for lettuce and broccoli is what revealed her to be
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trans. Instead, she's going with the far more standard line that her daughter must be a boy
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because she liked to play with boy toys, quote unquote. Her 18-month-old daughter played with
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a Fisher-Price tool set. And so that means that she's a boy. But hasn't the left been telling us
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that there is no such thing as a girl toy or a boy toy? And girls can use tools too and do all the
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things that boys do and they can like all the things that boys like? Haven't they been saying that to us
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for decades? Aren't they still saying that to us right now? And yet at the same time,
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even though there are no boy toys or girl toys and girls can like tools too, at the same time,
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if a girl does like to play with tools and she does like to play with boy toys, then she's actually
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a boy. Which is it, you idiots? Are gender roles meaningless social constructs or are they a
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recognition of an inner spiritual reality that's so innate and important that we should physically
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alter the bodies of children to line up with it? Which is it? It cannot be both. How can it be both?
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Well, it can be both because logical contradictions don't, you know, bother these people that are not
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worried about. They're not worried. People who are not worried about being logical don't care
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about logical contradictions. None of this makes any sense, but it's not meant to. In fact, the
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irrationality and insanity of gender ideology is part of the point. Speaking of brains, the left demands
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that you sacrifice yours on their altar. Utterly abandon your own capacity for reason. Accept the
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most insane and incoherent claims you've ever heard anyone make in your entire life. Listen to a mother
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bragging about sterilizing her own child and justifying it with bizarre, unintelligible arguments
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and applaud her. That's what's demanded of you. Give up your mind and your soul and also your child.
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All right, we'll begin with the New York Post. It has this article,
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the U.S. Navy invited an active-duty drag queen to be a digital ambassador as part of a recent drive
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to attract the most talented and diverse workforce and combat plunging recruitments. Yeoman second
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class Joshua Kelly, who identifies as non-binary, was appointed as the first of five Navy digital
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ambassadors in a pilot program that ran from October to March. Kelly, whose stage name is Harpy Daniels,
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has shared their journey on TikTok and Instagram, where they described how they began performing
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on board and became an advocate for people who were oppressed for years in the service.
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From joining to 2016 and being able to share my drag experience on my off time with my fellow
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sailors has been a blessing. Thank you to the Navy for giving me this opportunity. I don't speak for
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the Navy, but simply sharing my experience in the Navy. Uh, hoo-yah and let's go slay.
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They, they, they added, you know, we're using the they pronoun because this is, uh, it's two people,
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right? It's, uh, it's this individual and then also the drag persona. It's like two split personalities
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as we have to refer to them, to this individual as two people. Um, there's also this video, if you're,
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if you're wondering what this, uh, drag ambassador is all about, the website now of this put together
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All right. So you see them dressed up in drag there.
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I'm telling you something, China, China is looking at this and saying, we can't mess with these guys
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Um, so this is, this is what, this is what our actual, uh, global adversaries. This is what
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they're looking at. You know, it's, it's, uh, it's a scary thing to think about. We might like
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to think that this is all in house, but, uh, but you know, China has access to the internet as well.
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At least the government officials do. I don't know so much about the, uh, people that the actual
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citizens, um, very much restricted, but so they can see this.
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And they can see that we're filling the military with, uh, cross-dressers and we're, um, trying to
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recruit based on a desire for diversity and expressing yourself. You know, we always have to,
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we have to, uh, continually remember that this is all the opposite of what the military has always
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been. And not, not only our military, but what the military in general, as a concept globally,
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worldwide, and through history, it's the opposite of what that's always been. Because historically,
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um, the emphasis in the middle of the, if you're in the military, emphasize a few things. The first
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one is effectively killing the bad guys, killing the enemy. Uh, and that, that's the most important
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thing. But how do you achieve that? You achieve that by being, um, a unit, you know, by, by really
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suppressing your individual, uh, priorities and desires and, uh, wishes to express yourself
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and instead being part of a team, being part of a unit, being uniform. That, that's why you,
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when you're in the military, you wear a uniform. Um, and everything is, it's a hierarchy and there
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are rankings and there, you know, and, and, and you have to, things like obedience and discipline,
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And the reason why that's been emphasized in the military historically is not just because we want
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to be mean to people, but because that's what's required if you want to go out and effectively
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engage with the enemy. And really there is no, we keep hearing about the plunging recruitment rates
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and that's not a problem that's going to, this is not going to reverse that problem.
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It's just not going to because the vast majority of the people who are interested in whatever the
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hell this is, um, they're not going to go to the military for that. If, if, if, uh, being around
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drag queens is really important to you, if you're, or if you're a cross-dresser yourself and you want
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to cross-dress and, and express yourself and be applauded for it. Yeah, maybe unfortunately you can
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do that in the military now, but if that is what your priority is in life, why would you go to the
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military? I mean, the military can try its best, uh, to change the culture, destroy the culture of
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the military to, uh, to emulate, imitate, um, what we find in the general broader culture could try its
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best to imitate that, but it'll only ever be an imitation. And so if you're the type that is into
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this and you're, you know, around the age when people typically join the military and you're
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thinking to yourself, well, you know, really into cross-dressing, uh, I really care about diversity
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and being around a lot of, uh, a lot of, uh, degenerate types, where am I going to go in life?
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You're probably not going to say, well, I'll go to the military.
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There really is no way to recruit, uh, consistently and reliably and keep the military strong without
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appealing to masculinity. You know, this is a, that's, they could try all these other ways of
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recruiting. None of it works. The only thing that consistently works is by trying to appeal to men,
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to young men, to appeal to their, their sense of duty, their sense of honor, their sense of patriotism.
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All of these things now, of course, dwindling away, especially in the younger generations,
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which is a big part of the problem, but there's no way around it. And also appealing to their,
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uh, at an even kind of baser level at a more fundamental level, just their, their masculine
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energy, their masculine aggressiveness, um, channeling, you know, the military has always
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been a way to channel male aggressiveness and violence in a productive and not just productive,
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but a noble and courageous way. Okay. We've talked about this before. We talked about this in,
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in relation to sports and football. You know, this, this is my defense of football, even though
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football's a violent sport and kids can even get injured and sometimes seriously. So there's a risk
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involved, but it's, it's important to have it. Sports, uh, serve an important function in society,
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especially these kinds of violent kind of combat type sports. Uh, we need to have these if for no
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other reason than as a, another mechanism for men and young boy, young men, uh, and boys to channel
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that masculine energy and aggressiveness. Okay. Because there is, again, especially among young
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men, a desire, there's a desire, desire to engage in violence, a desire, you know, that's why these
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things are appealing. You want to go out and hit somebody and there's nothing wrong with that in
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and of itself, as long as it's channeled in the right way. And on the football field, it's channeled
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towards, you know, it's all about the team. It's about winning. It's about, you know, and again,
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it's not about the individual and the military, it's an even higher calling of, uh, it's not a game
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anymore. It's about protecting your nation. It's about patriotism. And that has to be that, that
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ultimately has to be the pitch really for the military. And if it's not, if you're trying to
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recruit based on feminine, uh, appealing to people's feminine instincts, uh, it's, it's not
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going to work. All right. Bloomberg has a lengthy profile of the daily wire and especially of,
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of Jeremy, um, that was just published today. And I didn't even know that this thing was coming out,
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but you know, of course there's a lot of stuff, daily wire, Ben Shapiro, Jeremy boring, but I,
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you know, I pulled the article I'm scanning through where, where am I in this article? And so I have
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to say that, um, this is a, I don't think it's intended. In fact, I know it's not intended,
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but in this Bloomberg article, this is a ringing endorsement, um, of, of me. I, I, I really am quite
00:25:25.540
flattered by it. The, uh, the title is the headline is the company behind Ben Shapiro is trying to build
00:25:30.520
a right-wing magic kingdom. The daily wire has ridden culture war outrage and transphobia into
00:25:36.200
a breakout media business. Now it's sites are set on entertainment and an entire alternate, uh,
00:25:42.680
alternative economy. And that's all well and good, but I did especially enjoy this part says
00:25:51.000
talking about the different, uh, aside from Ben Shapiro, who are the other
00:25:55.140
hosts, the other talent on the daily wire. And it says there's Candace Owens, a black star of the
00:26:01.540
MAGA set who's referred to the January 6th insurrection as obviously a fed operation,
00:26:06.560
of course, uh, and flirted with antisemitism. Michael Knowles, a cigar smoking would be actor
00:26:13.660
has argued that same sex adoption is a terrible idea and lately achieved dubious fame for saying
00:26:19.160
that transgenderism must be eradicated from public life entirely. His attacks, however,
00:26:24.180
pale in comparison to those of Matt Walsh, who has called trans people, quote, mutilated,
00:26:29.760
mutant, self-loathing, hollow, twisted shells, and notes in his Twitter bio that he was named
00:26:34.920
transphobe of the year by the new Republic in 2022. So I don't mean to brag. I don't want to gloat.
00:26:42.360
I'm not going to gloat, you know, to, to Michael about this, but he's a tax pale in comparison. I'm not
00:26:47.180
going to gloat about it. I'm not going to brag about it, but that's what they said. Uh, and then I also
00:26:51.680
enjoyed this part here, skimming through a bunch of other stuff. Uh, yada, yada, not about me,
00:26:56.780
not about me. Okay. Here's this, a $100 million investment in children's programming also meant
00:27:01.660
parents would no longer have to worry about their children getting indoctrinated by Disney plus
00:27:05.400
whose entertainment teaches your daughter that she's a boy. Boring set an event last June. So
00:27:09.340
we're talking about the children's content that'll be coming soon. Uh, the company's,
00:27:12.760
the company's children's book, Johnny, the Walrus Walsh is unsubtle anti-trans allegory about a boy
00:27:17.840
who pretends to pretends he's a sea animal and whose mom comes under pressure from activists
00:27:22.020
to make it surgically permanent at already topped the amazon.com bestseller list in the spring of
00:27:26.840
2022. First of all, I just want to say, I don't know what you're even talking about. Um, anti-trans
00:27:32.140
allegory. I mean, it's literally a book about a young boy who's, who's, you know, a walrus deep inside.
00:27:41.040
That's what the book's about. So I don't know what you're even talking about, frankly. Um,
00:27:46.540
quote, this is causing unimaginable trauma to Amazon, Amazon's woke employees. And I couldn't
00:27:52.400
be happier. Walsh gleefully tweeted at the time, Jason Campbell, a senior researcher at left-leaning
00:27:57.660
media watchdog and frequent daily wire critic media matters says, quote, this is, this is it. This is,
00:28:03.480
so this is another, this is the other thing I'm going to add to my trophy set along with transfer
00:28:07.400
of the year. When it comes to anti-trans rhetoric and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric in general, it is really hard
00:28:14.040
for me to think of anyone else who is more important in setting that narrative than Matt
00:28:18.980
Walsh. Then he goes on to talk about how, uh, you know, I'm scaring other people away from joining
00:28:24.420
the company because I'm such a bad guy. Anyway, um, that's not, uh, first of all, that's not,
00:28:29.460
I'm not scaring them away from joining the company. I have apparently scared at least one person away
00:28:33.040
who was already in the company and they left. But, uh, other than that, I think it's been fine.
00:28:37.000
Um, this is, this is good though. This is like, uh, this is what media matters does. And we're
00:28:43.400
going to talk in the daily cancellation about their latest attacks on Tucker Carlson. Um, but they have
00:28:49.940
this way of, they, they all, it's, it's a skill really. Well, they, they always can highlight and
00:28:57.160
focus in on the parts, um, that are really the least embarrassing to us because things are going to
00:29:05.780
make us look the best. And they focus in on those parts and then announce that to the world as if
00:29:13.240
like, what do you think? So you say this, if you're Jason Campbell, Matt Walsh, most important in
00:29:19.800
setting anti-trans and anti-LGBTQ rhetoric in general. Do you think, well, how do you think I'm
00:29:24.640
going to react to that? You think I'm going to read that and say, well, that's how dare you? Well, I never,
00:29:29.920
um, no, I don't, I think at this point they're smart enough to realize that, uh, they don't offend
00:29:37.440
us at all with these attacks. Um, they're also not scaring away any of our supporters, quite the
00:29:43.280
opposite. So they, you know, it exists just as fodder for people who hate us already, uh, which is
00:29:50.420
fine. All right. Great article there. Um, I think it's supposed to be sort of a hit piece, but
00:29:56.440
I liked it. I enjoyed it. Let's see. This is from, uh, Daily Wire news out of Utah.
00:30:05.100
Pornography giant Pornhub has blocked all residents of Utah from accessing its content
00:30:09.900
a day before a state law goes into effect that will allow websites to be sued if they enabled,
00:30:14.620
uh, enable minors to view their videos. A Utah bill called online pornography viewing age requirements
00:30:21.260
was passed unanimously by both chambers and signed into law in March by governor Spencer Cox goes into
00:30:28.000
effect on Wednesday. The law says that sites shall be held liable if the entity fails to perform
00:30:31.820
reasonable age verification methods to verify the age of an individual attempting to access the
00:30:36.000
material. But the bill also discusses a digitized identification card connected to a state approved
00:30:41.120
application, which the adult industry says doesn't exist. The bill says as an alternative to a state
00:30:47.200
digital ID sites can use any reasonable message mess method that relies on public or private
00:30:52.940
transactional data or data available from a commercially available database to verify someone's
00:30:58.140
age and identity. On Tuesday, Alison Bowden of the free speech coalition, which represents the adult
00:31:05.020
industry wrote to the bill States Senate sponsor, Todd Wheeler that quote, despite consulting over a dozen
00:31:11.280
lawyers, I must admit I'm stumped. The law is so vague and the requirements for compliance. So
00:31:15.080
contradictory. I cannot figure out how FSC members can follow this law.
00:31:22.560
Well, that's your problem. You know, that's a, yeah, it's trying to figure out a way to reliably
00:31:28.500
verify the ages of people who are viewing hardcore internet porn. It's there, there are some, it's not
00:31:36.840
impossible. It's easier than they're making it out to be. And there, there are plenty of other kinds of
00:31:43.560
websites that do this and do it reliably. And nobody panics over it or says it's some sort of attack on free
00:31:50.340
speech. If you want to go and gamble online, for example, you're going to have to verify your age.
00:31:57.320
Even, even going to a, the website, like an alcohol company's website requires age
00:32:03.540
verification. Now, in that case, it's going to be something that anyone could get around where you just have to put
00:32:07.980
your birth date in. But the point is even the alcohol sites require at least that much.
00:32:14.900
Whereas the porn sites don't even have that. Pornhub doesn't even have that. They don't even make that effort.
00:32:21.800
But a lot more can be done just like they do with the gambling sites to, to verify your age. It is not
00:32:27.300
impossible. Maybe there are some technical issues that come along that have to be worked out. But my
00:32:32.260
point is that, that that's, that's your problem. If you're in the porn industry, that's a problem you
00:32:38.360
have created. So your decision to put this kind of content on the internet creates a problem
00:32:46.140
that you have to fix. So I don't think that it's up to any, to any, to us to fix it.
00:32:52.220
You can't put a bunch of hardcore internet porn on the internet and then say, you know, and then we say,
00:32:57.700
well, we can't let kids see this. And then you say, well, that's your problem. You have to figure it
00:33:01.160
out. No, no, no. It's not our problem. It's your problem. You're the one who put it there.
00:33:05.320
What do you mean? We have to figure that out. Well, if you can't figure out how to stop kids
00:33:09.180
from watching it, I guess you can't put it on the internet. Take it down. God forbid.
00:33:14.380
You know, if it actually is true, yeah, as you know, I'm in, I'm in favor of, uh, of banning
00:33:20.580
this stuff entirely, but I think it's a good idea to start with these basic, before we even get there,
00:33:27.740
it's kind of like what the, the trans conversation and gender, uh, transitioning before we get to the
00:33:34.280
broader point. Uh, I think it makes sense to start with at least protecting kids from this.
00:33:39.460
And that means requiring putting the same kinds of restrictions in place on the, on the internet
00:33:47.240
porn business that are in place for any other kind of business that sells or distributes, um,
00:33:54.440
items, material that's, that's not suitable for kids. Okay. And alcohol, tobacco products,
00:34:02.860
firearms, all these cases. And even as I pointed out many times, even physical porn, if anyone still
00:34:13.700
uses that, you know, it's, it's, I don't even know if they still sell porn magazines at the gas station.
00:34:18.020
Well, if they did have a, if that did still exist somewhere, um, and you wanted to buy it,
00:34:24.040
you'd have to present your ID. So that's the way it works. And yet with internet porn exclusively,
00:34:31.360
this, this huge exception has been carved out where we say, oh no, they don't have to verify all
00:34:38.060
these other industries have to verify ages, but you don't. But, but if we made them do it,
00:34:41.000
that would be terrible. That'd be awful for them. Well, I don't buy that at all. But my point is that
00:34:46.840
if I think that it's possible to put age restrictions in place that will prevent,
00:34:55.760
um, a large number of kids from seeing this. I can prevent all of them. It's not gonna protect
00:34:59.980
all the kids, but there are things that can be done that will protect a large number of kids,
00:35:04.660
I think. But if you argue that it's not even possible that it can't be done. Okay. All this
00:35:13.360
degenerate, disgusting filth that we know damages kids, damages, it has real effects on their brains,
00:35:22.820
on their minds as they grow. And if, if you're correct, that it's not even, it's not possible
00:35:29.540
to put any kind of restrictions in place that will, um, stop them from seeing it. Well, you know what?
00:35:34.460
That's an argument for banning porn outright. Because if it's not even possible to protect
00:35:40.780
kids from it, as long as it's on the internet, well, then I guess it shouldn't be on the internet.
00:35:46.100
That, that, that, and now you have actually made the most compelling argument for banning all of it
00:35:52.000
entirely. And maybe that should, maybe that should be our argument. So it's like, it, it,
00:35:58.540
it behooves you if you're a porn enthusiast, um, or if you're a, uh, someone who's involved in the
00:36:06.540
porn industry, it behooves you to figure out a way to keep this filth away from kids. Because if you
00:36:14.920
can't figure it out, the next step is that it's all banned. And, and then, uh, and then anyone involved
00:36:23.300
in Pornhub goes to prison. How about that? Again, I, I'd be, I would be fine with just like skipping
00:36:30.360
right to that part. But if we're not, then, uh, then I think this is a reasonable compromise.
00:36:37.740
Figure out a way to protect kids from this disgusting filth that you choose to distribute,
00:36:44.280
figure it out, or we get rid of all of it. Criminalize all of it.
00:36:49.900
Um, extremely reasonable compromise. Here's something not as reasonable. This is a video
00:36:56.500
that has, uh, gone viral. Um, and it's, it's interesting because there's debate about who is
00:37:03.920
in the wrong and who's in the right, who's the bad guy here. Um, and it shows it's a, it's a dispute
00:37:09.920
between a cyclist and, uh, uh, people in a car who are blocking the bike lane. And, uh, this is what
00:37:18.680
people are arguing about on the internet today. It's very important stuff. Let's watch a little
00:37:31.360
Please move. You're in the bike lane and blocking the sidewalk here.
00:38:16.860
You'll be annoying, but don't, don't, don't, don't ride up in my s*** and touch it.
00:38:43.000
A heated, but I would also say quite eloquent discussion between all these individuals.
00:38:52.520
You did notice at the end there, this, like just a little pro tip, if you are involved
00:39:01.340
in a heated dispute with a stranger in public, and they go back to their car and reach into
00:39:07.200
it and then place something in their waistband, that's a good time to leave.
00:39:13.440
That's a good time to stop the argument, especially if it's over something as stupid as a bike
00:39:18.500
Now, I believe that sometimes you gotta stand your ground, but are you gonna die over the
00:39:37.440
I can't figure out who I hate the most in this argument because, I mean, really the answer
00:39:49.840
And there's, you know, and you know how I feel about cyclists.
00:39:53.840
It's the whole idea that we've put a separate lane for your bicycle, for your toy.
00:40:04.660
I have no problem with, if you want to play with your toy.
00:40:07.800
Um, but if we're gonna have bike lanes, we might as well have, you know, um, uh, lanes
00:40:17.460
It's a, it's the, it's the toy lane in the middle, right on the side of the road.
00:40:24.480
On the other hand, the fact that, like, I respect conviction, even if the conviction
00:40:33.380
If you stand by it, the fact that he was ready to be shot to death right then and there in
00:40:40.760
order to defend the bike lane, I have a weird begrudging respect for it.
00:40:45.300
Um, and then the other people were, then they get into the, I don't even can't remember if
00:40:49.960
we heard it there, but at some point in the video, they get into the anti-white stuff and
00:40:54.640
And, uh, so we know that, you know, reverse the situation there and you've got white people
00:41:01.140
We know that they're going to be canceled and their lives destroyed for, for, uh, being
00:41:08.300
Um, although, you know, sometimes you gotta, I've, I've been through this in the city many
00:41:12.160
times where you got to pull over to the side of the road real quick and, uh, and there's
00:41:15.940
a bike lane there, but okay, I got, here's the car.
00:41:27.340
So I will drive my car right in the bike lane and you better get out of the way.
00:41:37.420
If I need to pull over to the side of the road, I don't care what my reason is.
00:41:41.500
Maybe I need to pull over to the side of the road because I want to, I want to scroll Twitter
00:41:45.600
I'm going to do it right in the middle of the bike lane.
00:41:47.220
And I have, because I don't respect the existence of the bike lane.
00:42:09.400
You say, well, where do I, where do I play with my toy, my bicycle?
00:42:16.500
Go to the park, go to the park with your bicycle, go in your driveway.
00:42:20.380
So my kids do, they ride in little circles in the driveway.
00:42:42.360
BZ says, as someone who believes in virgin women in the Middle East 2,000 years ago,
00:42:46.980
being impregnated by a ghost, you probably shouldn't talk about biology.
00:42:57.360
No one is claiming that this is something that happens naturally by a physical process.
00:43:02.920
It's quite openly, you know, if you're religious, if you're a Christian, as I am, then you believe
00:43:09.580
in the existence of the supernatural, which is something above and beyond nature.
00:43:16.880
My question to you is, are you admitting that transgenderism is a supernatural belief?
00:43:27.640
And even on supernatural grounds, it's incoherent.
00:43:31.420
But if we could get to the point where at least you people will admit that that's what this is,
00:43:36.760
that this is not science, it's not even attempting to be science,
00:43:39.860
it's not any kind of claim about the natural human body,
00:43:43.200
it is a supernatural, it is faith in the supernatural.
00:43:51.760
Sounds like that's what you are accidentally conceding.
00:43:56.680
And I think that if you're conceding that, then we're making progress finally.
00:44:01.860
Because now we've gotten, now we all understand what sort of playing field we're operating on.
00:44:07.760
Amanda says, Matt, I am one of the Disney adults you talk about.
00:44:17.580
I'm not mentally ill, unintelligent, or immature.
00:44:20.440
A little bit of magic once in a while makes the ugliness of the world manageable.
00:44:25.420
Well, Amanda, I don't, I mean, no disrespect to you whatsoever.
00:44:29.200
And I'm sure you're a wonderful person and intelligent.
00:44:31.540
But, look, all I'm trying to do is work through this problem.
00:44:38.180
I'm trying to figure out why an adult human being who doesn't even have any kids
00:44:43.560
would choose to go to Disney World with their time off in the heat, in the humidity,
00:44:49.640
waiting in lines, sifting through crowds of tourists,
00:45:01.720
I'm trying to figure out why you would want to do that.
00:45:04.320
And I'm not saying I have all the answers to this.
00:45:06.720
I'm not saying that I've cracked, this is a mystery that philosophers have debated for millennia.
00:45:12.780
I'm not saying that I have come to the exactly correct answer.
00:45:17.780
All I'm saying is that one potential theory is that you're all mentally ill.
00:45:21.280
And if you are, then, Amanda, then I want you to get help.
00:45:31.780
but I think there could be a place for that in this case.
00:45:36.580
It's not, you know, there's no reason to be offended by it.
00:45:39.960
Just because I'm saying that your favorite recreation is a sign of mental illness,
00:45:59.260
My parents let me play video games when I was growing up,
00:46:01.320
but they also made sure to limit my screen time,
00:46:02.960
and they would only let me play after finishing all my homework and chores.
00:46:05.260
To balance that out, I would also engage with my family
00:46:18.700
I was only able to catch the second half of your show today.
00:46:22.160
We do let our kids play the Nintendo Switch nonviolent games once a week after school work and chores.
00:46:27.240
I think it's one of the many ways to teach self-control.
00:46:31.420
You're letting them play games that are appropriate.
00:46:34.380
You are severely limiting and moderating the amount of time they spend on the devices.
00:46:43.180
As I said yesterday, I'm not claiming there's something inherent to video games themselves
00:46:49.240
that no matter how much time you spend playing them or what the game is,
00:46:55.900
The issue is if the content is not appropriate,
00:47:01.100
and there are people, as absurd as it may seem to you,
00:47:06.220
as absurd as it may seem to you, Mariah, and to me,
00:47:08.660
there are people out there who will just categorically reject the idea
00:47:12.540
that there can even be inappropriate content for kids in video games.
00:47:17.220
And I know that that exists because any time I've tried to discuss the problem of exposing kids to violent video games,
00:47:24.220
there are plenty of people who get outraged by the discussion of it.
00:47:27.760
They don't even want to acknowledge that there may be violent content that's not appropriate for kids,
00:47:34.920
which is absurd because when it comes to movies and shows, we would all agree.
00:47:39.900
There are plenty of parents who will let their kids be exposed to movies and shows that are not appropriate,
00:47:43.120
but we all agree in principle that there are things.
00:47:46.540
I mean, some torture porn, violent movie like the old Saw franchise or something,
00:47:54.380
clearly you would not sit your seven-year-old down to watch that.
00:48:00.040
And we would all agree with that, but on video games,
00:48:01.960
there's this exception people try to make, and it doesn't make a lot of sense to me.
00:48:04.500
Jeff says, Matt, I think your points about video games are reasonable,
00:48:10.240
but I still can't get behind your claim that all superheroes slash comic movies slash shows are childish.
00:48:18.120
You know, ever since this conversation was reignited a couple days ago,
00:48:21.800
and I still haven't figured out who, why exactly,
00:48:24.740
but I've seen all these caricatures of my views,
00:48:28.900
and it went beyond video games, and now it's, oh, Matt Walsh says that all superhero,
00:48:34.260
superheroes or any adult that watches any of that ever is childish.
00:48:38.980
Someone today said that I dismiss films as childish,
00:48:48.180
I don't think you should watch any movies at all, is the claim that I encountered.
00:48:55.640
I'm actually a filmmaker, so I clearly am okay with the idea of films,
00:49:00.680
and I think that they can be actually a very powerful tool, a very powerful art form.
00:49:16.340
my primary criticism of a lot of these superhero films
00:49:19.540
is not that they're childish, it's that they're lifeless.
00:49:25.520
I think that Martin Scorsese's observation that they are theme park rides,
00:49:36.040
They're just kind of like, there's nothing there.
00:49:43.600
If something is lifeless and empty and has no real charm, no beauty, no depth at all,
00:49:56.380
As I've said, I don't want to expose my kids to that kind of,
00:50:19.800
So that's what a lot of these superhero franchises have become.
00:50:35.260
it's not a big revelation that movie studios want to make money,
00:50:42.160
who really feels compassionate about telling a story.
00:50:52.280
You've got people involved who are storytellers
00:50:55.600
You've got the studio that only cares about the money,
00:50:58.800
But when it comes to these superhero films now,
00:51:11.820
I really feel passionate about telling the story.