The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1164 - Target Goes Into LGBT Indoctrination Overdrive For Pride Month

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, did Miller Lite manage to put out an ad even more obnoxious than Bud Light's Dylan Mulvaney campaign?

00:00:05.960 Maybe it's not quite that bad, but it's close.

00:00:07.680 Meanwhile, Target is celebrating Pride Month early with an elaborate array of LGBT-themed merchandise, with much of it aimed directly at children.

00:00:15.100 Also, a 300-page report confirms what those of us with brains already knew, which is that the Trump-Russia collusion narrative was a hoax all along.

00:00:23.060 And the Atlantic interviews a late-term abortionist who proudly admits to murdering developed and viable infants both inside and outside the womb.

00:00:31.020 In our daily cancellation, a wife goes on TikTok to air her petty complaints about her husband publicly.

00:00:36.140 The video goes viral. What can we learn from all of this?

00:00:38.560 All of that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.

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00:01:47.160 As Bud Light continues to suffer the repercussions of their experiment with wokeness, another ad campaign from a different beer company has gone viral.

00:01:56.460 Miller Lite tried its own hand at Woke Virtue Signaling in a commercial that was first released actually a few weeks before the now infamous Dylan Mulvaney Bud Light can.

00:02:06.100 In their case, Miller Lite did not alienate the vast majority of their customers for the sake of appealing to a tiny fraction of trans people.

00:02:13.380 Instead, they alienated the vast majority of their customers for the sake of appealing to a tiny fraction of feminists who were offended by beer ads in the past.

00:02:21.500 And here's what they came up with.

00:02:22.880 Watch.

00:02:23.020 Here's a little-known fact.

00:02:26.020 Women were among the very first to brew beer ever.

00:02:29.460 From Mesopotamia to the Middle Ages to colonial America, women were the ones doing the brewing.

00:02:35.080 Centuries later, how did the industry pay homage to the founding mothers of beer?

00:02:39.320 They put us in bikinis.

00:02:42.340 Wow.

00:02:42.740 Look at this s**t.

00:02:47.880 Wild.

00:02:48.900 It's time beer made it up to women.

00:02:50.780 So today, Miller Lite is on a mission to clean up not just their s**t, but the whole beer industry's s**t.

00:02:55.940 Miller Lite has been scouring the internet for all this s**t and buying it back so that they can turn it into good s**t for women brewers.

00:03:02.880 Literally, good s**t.

00:03:04.620 How, you ask?

00:03:05.900 Ladies, take it away.

00:03:07.620 First, we turn the bad s**t into compost.

00:03:09.720 Then we feed compost to worms with s**t out beautiful fertilizer.

00:03:15.100 That good s**t helps farmers grow quality hops.

00:03:19.600 Which has been donated to women brewers to make their own really good s**t.

00:03:25.340 Well, it's a good plan.

00:03:26.620 You know, if you're the kind of woman who's offended by ads with bikinis, but you love ads with lots of cuss words, then this Miller campaign is perfect for you.

00:03:35.180 And the three or four other people who fall into that demographic.

00:03:39.280 The rest of us, however, are left with some questions.

00:03:42.340 Questions like, what do you mean that beer companies put women in bikinis?

00:03:48.380 Were the women abducted out of their homes in the middle of the night at gunpoint and forced against their will to wear skimpy bathing suits for beer advertisements?

00:03:55.720 Is that how it worked?

00:03:57.880 Or did those women respond to casting calls, knowing what they were getting into and choosing of their own free will and volition to participate in these ad campaigns?

00:04:08.760 And if the answer to the latter question is yes, then why would feminists complain?

00:04:14.000 So I'm a little confused here because on the one hand, we're told that things like OnlyFans and the porn industry and quote-unquote sex work are empowering for women, allowing them to harness and wield their sexuality to their own benefit.

00:04:28.340 And on the other hand, we're told that bikini ads for beer companies are demeaning and dehumanizing.

00:04:33.640 So which is it?

00:04:35.700 I mean, it certainly can't be both.

00:04:37.200 There's no way that OnlyFans can be empowering while a bikini ad for a beer company is dehumanizing.

00:04:46.380 The answer seems to change depending on the situation.

00:04:49.060 Sometimes sexualization is good and it's empowering and sometimes it's degrading.

00:04:54.920 All told, feminism basically sells two options to modern women.

00:04:58.940 Either they can be empowered and independent by becoming sexual objects, glorified masturbatory aids for men,

00:05:08.020 or they can be empowered and be independent by becoming cold and angry and resentful of wrong supposedly done to them in the past.

00:05:16.180 These are the two paths that feminism presents.

00:05:18.980 Women are urged to choose one path and then jump to another one, someone at random,

00:05:23.460 just as long as they never search for a third path, you know, a different option where they are neither sexual objects nor resentful bitter harpies.

00:05:33.900 There is that other path that exists, but modern feminism does not want women to choose that path.

00:05:39.620 Of course, the question still remains as to how any of this will help Miller Lite sell its product.

00:05:44.760 The majority of their customers are men under the age of 45, and just a little bit of a marketing insight I can give you.

00:05:54.060 The reason why in the past beer companies used attractive women in bikinis to sell their products is because they're selling the product mostly to men.

00:06:01.700 It's men who want it, and men also enjoy looking at women in bikinis, attractive women anyway.

00:06:07.060 So that was the idea behind it.

00:06:08.860 I mean, pretty simple, but that was the concept.

00:06:11.100 It was back in the days when companies had this idea that you should advertise to your audience and your customer base by giving them things that they want instead of lecturing them.

00:06:24.700 Back in the old days, that was kind of the marketing, the most popular marketing strategy.

00:06:31.040 And, you know, all of their customers, Miller Lite, both men and women, are undiscerning beer drinkers simply looking for a cheap adult beverage option that they can buy in bulk.

00:06:41.100 These are people who willingly buy and consume what is essentially alcoholic goat urine.

00:06:47.680 It's unlikely that they're going to be able to significantly expand their customer base with this girl power routine.

00:06:55.200 But it's not about expanding their customer base, obviously.

00:06:57.600 It's about signaling their allegiance to the woke religion.

00:07:00.780 Which also explains the other woke corporate campaign that's getting a lot of attention this week, and that is from Target.

00:07:06.540 Target is, once again, getting Pride Month kicked off a few weeks early by unveiling their ever-expanding selection of LGBT-themed merchandise, with much of it specifically aimed at children.

00:07:19.120 The Daily Wire reports, quote,

00:07:20.220 Target unveiled a number of clothing items and accessories, including apparel and books meant for babies and young children, as part of the retail behemoth's latest Pride collection.

00:07:29.860 In addition to the adult collection, which included a t-shirt emblazoned with the words, queer, queer, queer, queer, a short-sleeved bright green boiler suit, and a hoodie, which declares, not a phase.

00:07:40.820 The company offered several items meant for kids and babies.

00:07:44.080 The store is selling onesies and small shirts with phrases like, being proud, and just be you and feel the love, as well as rainbow-colored leggings, tutu skirts, and jumpers.

00:07:54.920 Target likewise offers bibs that say, I am proud of you always, rainbow sandals and swimwear, and socks with various LGBTQ-related themes.

00:08:03.720 Shoppers with pets can purchase rainbow backpacks, chew toys, treats, leashes, collars, and cat scratchers.

00:08:10.820 The retailer has garnered controversy for several years with Pride collections meant to commemorate the June LGBTQ festivals.

00:08:17.560 Items sold last year included breast binders, packing underwear, and other offerings meant for self-identified transgender individuals, drawing backlash against the company.

00:08:27.020 Now, I should also mention that they're, along with these products for kids, they're also selling LGBT children's books and all the rest of it.

00:08:35.520 And if you go into a Target right now, you're going to see all that, as soon as you walk in the store, you're going to see all of that front and center proudly on display.

00:08:44.520 The chest binders and the packing underwear, those are items that are still on offer this year.

00:08:51.520 Here's a video posted by somebody who seems to be trying to defend Target against claims that it's selling these kinds of things for children.

00:08:59.700 So this is someone who's, she's not upset about this, it seems.

00:09:02.600 She's trying to defend Target.

00:09:03.800 And, uh, but in the process of trying to defend Target, she actually exposes what Target is doing accidentally.

00:09:10.120 Let's watch.

00:09:11.520 I'm sorry I chose you again.

00:09:12.820 I just needed to do the bathing suit the last bit.

00:09:14.720 I found the tuck bathing suits, the tuck-friendly bathing suits.

00:09:18.980 So if you need a women's bathing suit and you have a little extra meat down there that you've got to hide, you have one option.

00:09:26.720 That is the only bathing suit that I found in the entire store.

00:09:29.280 And it's in the pride section.

00:09:30.740 It's not in the kids' section, women's section, boys' section, babies' section.

00:09:34.100 It is in the pride section.

00:09:35.220 It was the only one I could find.

00:09:36.460 And I did have another adult with me checking all the tags so that I didn't have to stay in the store for nine hours.

00:09:41.260 Okay, so tuck-friendly bathing suits, if you have, as she says, a little extra meat down there.

00:09:51.560 And, but they aren't in the kids' section, she hastens to add.

00:09:54.940 They're in the pride section.

00:09:56.620 They're not in the kids' section.

00:09:58.400 It's just the pride section that they've set up right in the front of the store.

00:10:01.980 Which may be true, but we can also clearly see that the bathing suits, though not in the kids' section, are available in kids' sizes.

00:10:11.680 Either those are sizes for kids or for very, very, very small adults.

00:10:17.360 Which I guess is the excuse they're going to go with.

00:10:19.380 No, this is not.

00:10:19.960 This is just for extremely undersized adults.

00:10:24.540 I mean, you could buy it for your kid, but that's not what it's meant for.

00:10:29.660 That's obviously what it's meant for.

00:10:31.100 Which means that if you're a parent who wants to dress your son up like a girl and put him in a girl's bathing suit,

00:10:37.180 Target has items especially tailored to those, quote, needs.

00:10:42.020 Now, it should go without saying that this is far, far worse than anything Bud Light did.

00:10:48.500 Target is specifically marketing products for children and putting them on display right in the front of their stores for all to see.

00:10:57.060 Target is actively trying to recruit kids into the LGBT camp.

00:11:02.320 And Target feels safe doing this even after the Bud Light fiasco because they assume that they can, for one thing, rely on the ubiquity of their brand to cover them.

00:11:11.260 There are Targets everywhere.

00:11:12.500 They, you know, of course, Target isn't just, it's not just one product in the refrigerated section of the grocery store that you can walk past and get another product.

00:11:22.380 No, they sell all kinds of items from clothing to groceries and everything in between.

00:11:26.400 So to cut them out to boycott Target would require a level of discipline and sacrifice on the part of consumers.

00:11:35.760 Now, it's only a very small amount of discipline and only the meagerest sacrifice, but still it's more than what was required to ditch Bud Light.

00:11:45.800 So we could, that's the problem Bud Light ran into is that they discovered that they are incredibly expendable and we can ditch them and you could buy a different beer and there's really no sacrifice at all.

00:11:57.560 It requires no extra effort.

00:11:59.220 It's just opening the refrigerator at the gas station and rather than reaching here, reaching over there for a different beer.

00:12:04.660 That's all, that's all.

00:12:05.360 That's the only effort.

00:12:06.420 And lots of people were willing to do that.

00:12:08.780 But for Target, what they're counting on is that it's not quite so easy because if you have a Target right down the street and it's got everything that you need and you're a busy parent or something, if you decide I'm not going to go to Target, that might mean that rather than driving 12 minutes down the street, now you've got to drive 17 minutes down the street to go to a different store.

00:12:32.500 And that's, that's, that's at least more of a sacrifice than is required to not drink Bud Light anymore.

00:12:39.680 But still, Target needs our business.

00:12:43.000 It needs the business of the people that it is angering intentionally with its LGBT indoctrination.

00:12:49.840 And now it's essentially calling our bluff.

00:12:52.860 The company is making the assumption that we will be satisfied with our victory over Bud Light and kind of, you know, leave it, leave it there.

00:12:59.860 We have that one trophy on the wall and they're assuming, and just like many other corporations come, come Pride Month, they're going to assume that we're going to be satisfied with that.

00:13:12.340 It's not an unreasonable assumption.

00:13:14.860 Even with Bud Light, there was a sizable contingent of conservatives who said that we should ignore that issue.

00:13:20.200 They said that they were tired of hearing about it.

00:13:22.600 It's just a culture war distraction, they complained.

00:13:25.620 Let's focus on the economy and taxes instead.

00:13:27.780 If multi-billion dollar corporations are actively trying to brainwash and recruit our children at the LGBT cult, why should that matter?

00:13:36.320 What difference does the culture make anyway?

00:13:39.500 The answer is that it makes all the difference.

00:13:41.780 As I've tried to explain recently on this show and many other times, the culture is the stuff that our country is made of.

00:13:50.680 It's what we are all living in.

00:13:52.780 It's what our children are inheriting from us.

00:13:55.300 And now they are inheriting a society where major corporations celebrate LGBT pride by selling chest binders and tucking bathing suits.

00:14:07.300 We do have the power to put a stop to it.

00:14:10.460 It only takes a little bit of discipline and the tiniest amount of sacrifice.

00:14:15.600 Corporations who cross the line to this egregious extent should be made to pay for it.

00:14:23.360 And that is a penalty that we can extract.

00:14:26.900 Because there are millions and millions and millions of Americans in this country who are disgusted by this.

00:14:34.080 Who do not want to, they don't want to have the rainbow stuff vomited all over them the moment that they walk into a store.

00:14:40.660 They especially don't want that to happen when they're bringing their kids with them into the store, as so many parents do.

00:14:46.540 And if even a sizable minority of those millions said, you know what, I'm not shopping at Target anymore.

00:14:54.340 I'm done with it.

00:14:56.800 That would be a major blow to that company because they need our business.

00:15:02.600 This is a punishment that we can impose.

00:15:05.460 You just have to put in the effort and understand why it's important.

00:15:11.820 We did it with Bud Light.

00:15:13.960 Now I think it's Target's turn.

00:15:17.800 Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:16:36.940 Well, I just saw this as we were going to the five headlines, so I'll mention it here at the top,

00:16:41.100 related to the Miller Lights campaign.

00:16:44.320 And they put out a statement in reaction to the backlash against this commercial.

00:16:48.900 The statement says,

00:16:50.440 This video was about two things, worm poop and saying that women shouldn't be forced to mud wrestle in order to sell beer.

00:16:57.680 Neither of those things should be remotely controversial,

00:17:00.100 and we hope beer drinkers can appreciate the humor and ridiculousness of this video from back in March.

00:17:06.520 Oh, it's just a joke. We were just kidding.

00:17:09.280 They're nervous now. Miller Lite is nervous. That's why they put a statement out.

00:17:11.820 And, you know, if not for the Bud Light thing, if Bud Light had never happened and they put out this commercial

00:17:18.700 and conservatives were making fun of it, Miller Lite would ignore the backlash.

00:17:23.600 They wouldn't say anything about it. They'd just ignore it.

00:17:25.980 The fact that they're addressing it means that they're nervous because they don't want to be the next Bud Light.

00:17:32.100 And they're also now falling back on, oh, it's just a joke. We're kidding around.

00:17:39.120 First of all, nothing that is tailored to feminists has ever been funny, intentionally.

00:17:45.480 I mean, it's funny unintentionally sometimes.

00:17:47.820 But there's no such thing as I have proven in videos we've done, some of our Try to Laugh videos where I've listened.

00:17:55.120 I have endured feminist comedy.

00:17:57.900 I've endured more of it than most people have.

00:18:00.560 And I can say from experience from walking down that dark path that there is nothing funny happening there at all.

00:18:07.960 So, and also, yeah, we can agree.

00:18:12.160 We can agree that women should not be forced to mud wrestle in order to sell beer.

00:18:17.920 I totally agree with that.

00:18:18.720 Women should not be forced to put on bikinis and mud wrestle for any reason.

00:18:24.140 You know, I can't think, I cannot think of a reason, a justification for forcing women to do that.

00:18:30.720 So we can agree on that.

00:18:33.020 But women were not forced to do it.

00:18:36.120 See, this is the issue.

00:18:38.900 They were not forced to do it.

00:18:40.920 They chose, they were paid and they chose to participate in these kinds of ads.

00:18:45.900 So, again, the question is, isn't that empowering?

00:18:50.800 Don't you people tell us that that is empowering?

00:18:56.340 No, I don't think it's empowering.

00:18:58.460 That's not my position.

00:19:00.320 But my position is consistent.

00:19:02.820 You know, I don't think running around a bikini to sell beer, I don't consider that empowerment.

00:19:06.280 But I also don't consider it empowering to be on OnlyFans or in the porn industry or doing, quote unquote, sex work.

00:19:15.920 I would say that none of that is empowering.

00:19:19.860 But on the left, they, as always, try to have it both ways and it doesn't make any sense.

00:19:24.300 All right.

00:19:24.600 I'll read this report from The Daily Wire and I'm going to read a little, a pretty good chunk of it because I think that this explains it better than I would if I was just going off the top of my head on it.

00:19:37.180 But Special Counsel John Durham, who was tasked by former Attorney General Bill Barr to examine the propriety of the FBI's investigation of President Trump, released a 320-page report on Monday that found that the FBI had no evidence to support a Trump-Russia scandal when it began its investigation and found, quote, sobering differences in how it approached the Trump probe compared to other politically sensitive investigations.

00:20:01.620 So this report, in other words, tells us what any sensible person knew all along.

00:20:08.340 There was no reason, there was no actual evidence-based reason to investigate Trump for being somehow tied to Russia or some kind of secret Russian double agent.

00:20:20.260 Most of us knew that from the beginning.

00:20:22.060 And we also knew that they, they, the intelligence community was treating Trump very differently from how they treat other politicians and powerful people who are caught up in scandals far worse than this fake one that Trump was accused of.

00:20:38.920 Reading some more, it said, the FBI immediately opened a full investigation based on a brief note from an Australian diplomat recounting that he had a, he had met with George Papadopoulos, a volunteer with the Trump campaign, in which he mentioned that Russia might have information negative to Hillary Clinton.

00:20:55.840 Quote, at the time of the opening of Crossfire Hurricane, the FBI did not possess any intelligence showing that anyone associated with the Trump campaign was in contact with Russian intelligence officers at any point during the campaign.

00:21:06.740 So, they launched this entire investigation, but there was no intelligence, there was no, not a single shred of evidence that would justify the investigation to begin with.

00:21:22.180 Because that's the whole point, you know, investigation is not supposed to be, hey, let's just at random look into this person to see if we can find any crimes.

00:21:31.580 There's supposed to be an evidence-based reason to open the investigation to begin with, and in this case there was not.

00:21:37.600 The probe later relied on the Steele dossier, which came from a circular loop of people with little insight into Russia, except that some of them had been on the FBI's radar for possible misconduct or ties to Russian intelligence in their own right, it said.

00:21:51.560 The FBI knew it was nothing but rumor and speculation, according to the report.

00:21:55.060 Quote, upon receipt of unevaluated intelligence information from Australia, the FBI swiftly opened the Crossfire Hurricane investigation, in particular at the direction of Deputy Director Andrew McCabe.

00:22:08.860 Deputy Assistant Director for Counterintelligence Peter Strzok opened Crossfire Hurricane immediately.

00:22:13.560 Strzok, at a minimum, had pronounced hostile feelings towards Trump.

00:22:17.060 And so here we're told that not only did they open this investigation with no evidence, but the people that were involved at the highest levels in this investigation had a partisan bias against Trump.

00:22:31.140 Again, not new information.

00:22:33.580 This was anyone with two eyes and ears and a brain could see this from the beginning.

00:22:41.000 The matter was opened as a full investigation without ever having spoken to the persons who provided the information.

00:22:45.760 Further, the FBI did so without, one, any significant review of its own intelligence databases, two, collection and examination of any relevant intelligence from other U.S. intelligence entities, three, interviews of witnesses essential to understand the raw information that it had received, or four, using any of the standard analytical tools typically employed by the FBI in evaluating raw intelligence.

00:23:09.340 None of that was done before they launched this investigation.

00:23:11.880 Had it done so, the FBI would have learned that their own experienced Russian analysts had no information about Trump being involved with Russian leadership officials, nor were others in sensitive positions at the CIA, the NSA, the Department of State aware of such evidence concerning the subject.

00:23:25.620 In addition, FBI records prepared by Strzok in February and March of 2017 show that at the time of the opening of Crossfire Hurricane, the FBI had no information in its holdings indicating that at any time during the campaign,

00:23:37.780 had anyone in the Trump campaign had been in contact with any Russian intelligence officials.

00:23:43.240 In the 18 months leading up to the 2016 election, the FBI was required to deal with a number of proposed investigations that had the potential of affecting the election.

00:23:51.180 In each of those instances, the FBI moved with considerable caution.

00:23:54.880 In one such matter, FBI headquarters and department officials required defensive briefings to be provided to Clinton and other officials or candidates who appeared to be targets of foreign interference, it said.

00:24:05.140 In another, the FBI elected to end an investigation after one of its longtime and valuable CHSs went beyond what was authorized and made an improper and possibly illegal financial contribution to the Clinton campaign on behalf of a foreign entity as a precursor to a much larger donation being contemplated.

00:24:19.980 All right, it's a 300-page report thereabouts.

00:24:22.200 You can read, you know, much of it yourself if you want to.

00:24:25.300 Although, it will tell you what we already know, which again is that there was no evidence to justify this investigation.

00:24:35.120 There was never any reason to even entertain the notion that Trump was in cahoots with Russia.

00:24:45.300 And also that this is not how they've treated other people like Hillary Clinton, for example.

00:24:49.360 And it's, you know, it's good that this report, after all these years, is now being published and we can see it, I guess.

00:25:00.780 You know, it is good.

00:25:01.640 It's good that we can see it.

00:25:04.700 But it's also deeply frustrating because we also know that this is it.

00:25:09.740 Like, this is all that's going to happen.

00:25:11.560 The report is published.

00:25:13.100 It's 300-plus pages long.

00:25:15.160 Most people won't read it.

00:25:16.400 Especially the people, the only people who will pay attention to this and actually look into it are the ones who are already smart enough to know that the whole Trump and Russia thing was bogus.

00:25:30.820 Those are like the only people that are going to pay attention to this.

00:25:34.940 Everyone else, you know, they rely on the mainstream media to get their information.

00:25:38.620 The mainstream media is going to gloss over this very quickly.

00:25:41.040 And so it's not going, it's not going to, it's almost certainly not going to convince any of the people who in the past were convinced that Trump was a Russian secret double agent.

00:25:54.540 And then, and nothing will, there won't be any penalties.

00:25:57.980 No one's going to pay a price for this.

00:25:59.880 We'll, we'll get all this information in this report about what happened and this, this effort to derail the Trump campaign with these completely bogus accusations.

00:26:17.160 And no one is going to pay a price for it.

00:26:21.000 That's the most frustrating thing.

00:26:22.460 But if you're looking for where the, the attacks on our democracy are coming from, this is it.

00:26:32.340 This actually is an attack on our democracy.

00:26:35.500 It's a, it's an attack on our, on our system.

00:26:39.360 And not just because we had these, these department, these, these government agencies that were weaponized against Trump and weaponized against their political enemies.

00:26:50.920 That's part of the attack on our democracy.

00:26:53.420 But the other part is the effect of that, which is that, which is the total collapse of faith in our institutions and in the government.

00:27:04.180 Nobody trusts these people anymore.

00:27:06.440 And nor, nor should we.

00:27:09.940 But how do you have a democratic system when nobody trusts it?

00:27:14.540 Trust is the, uh, faith, trust, you know, these are the, this is the fuel that keeps everything going.

00:27:22.260 And once people get to the point where they just have no faith in any of this anymore, and they see it all as a giant facade, which is what so much of it is, uh, that's when things really start to fall apart.

00:27:33.340 Which is what we're experiencing right now.

00:27:34.820 Okay, the Atlantic has an article about a late-term abortionist named Warren Hearn, who has been in business for half a century.

00:27:44.060 And, uh, I want to just read for you, if I can pull it up, a few choice excerpts from this article and interview.

00:27:52.560 The article is written by Elaine Godfrey in the Atlantic.

00:27:55.200 Again, Warren Hearn has been practicing, uh, abortions, been performing late-term abortions, uh, infanticide, uh, in other words, for 50 years.

00:28:03.060 And I just want to read a couple of excerpts from this article.

00:28:08.040 And this, these are, uh, excerpts that were posted originally by, um, John McCormick of the National Review.

00:28:15.300 Okay, Hearn is now nearing his fifth decade of practice at his Boulder Clinic in Colorado.

00:28:20.600 He has persisted through the, the entire arc of Roe v. Wade, its nearly 50-year rise and fall.

00:28:25.580 He specializes in abortions late in pregnancy, the rarest and most controversial form of abortion.

00:28:30.520 This means that Hearn ends pregnancies of women who are 22, 25, even, even 30 weeks along.

00:28:37.520 Although 14 states now ban abortion in most or all circumstances, Colorado has no gestational limits on the procedure.

00:28:43.800 Patients come to him from all over the country because he is one of only a handful of physicians who can and will perform an abortion so late.

00:28:50.820 During the conversation and the ones following it, I prodded for cracks in Hearn's certainty.

00:28:55.520 At one point, I thought I'd found one.

00:28:57.320 Hearn had told me about a woman who'd sought an abortion because she didn't want to have a baby girl.

00:29:02.000 I thought he had refused.

00:29:03.840 But when I followed up to ask him why, I learned that I had misunderstood.

00:29:07.640 Hearn said he had done abortions for sex selection twice.

00:29:11.200 Once for this woman and once for someone who desperately wanted a girl.

00:29:14.120 It was their choice to make, he explained.

00:29:18.660 Quote, so if a pregnant woman with no health issues comes to the clinic, say, at 30 weeks, what would you do?

00:29:23.240 I asked Hearn once.

00:29:24.580 The question irked him.

00:29:25.800 Every pregnancy is a health issue, he said.

00:29:27.900 There's a certifiable risk of death from being pregnant, period.

00:29:32.060 You see there, so when you hear about the life-saving abortions, which are totally mythological, okay?

00:29:38.060 Abortion does not, there's never a time when you need to actually do an abortion to save a woman's life.

00:29:42.460 But when you hear about the life-saving abortions, this is what they mean.

00:29:47.000 What they mean is that theoretically, you know, a woman can die in childbirth, can die in labor.

00:29:55.480 There's a certain, as he says, a certain risk of death when you're pregnant, in theory.

00:30:01.440 And so for that reason, every abortion is a life-saving procedure.

00:30:04.800 Not to mention, you know, which, of course, I guess we're disregarding all of the many risks of death and injury that come from getting an abortion in the first place.

00:30:16.480 Continues, in the 1970s, physicians did not induce fetal demise during abortion.

00:30:21.180 And once or twice during a procedure at 15 or 16 weeks, he used forceps to remove a fetus with a still-beating heart.

00:30:26.960 The heart thumped for only a few seconds before stopping, but for a long while after, a vision of that fetus would wake Hearn from his sleep.

00:30:35.240 So there he's saying, that's infanticide, extracting a baby who is still alive and then watching the baby die.

00:30:41.800 Abortions that come after devastating medical diagnoses can be easier for some people to understand.

00:30:47.620 But Hearn estimates that at least half, and sometimes more, of the women who come to the clinic do not have these diagnoses.

00:30:54.600 He and his staff are just as sympathetic to other circumstances.

00:30:59.200 Okay, so this is coming right from the horse's mouth.

00:31:02.340 This is someone who clearly does not have a pro-life bias.

00:31:05.620 This is a late-term abortionist.

00:31:07.140 And he is saying that at least half of the women who come to him for late-term abortions, okay, these are babies that are, and I hate using this term, but that are viable, okay?

00:31:20.540 These are babies who could survive outside of the womb.

00:31:22.820 You could deliver a baby at 30 weeks, and that child is almost certainly going to survive.

00:31:30.120 With modern technology and modern medicine, delivering a baby at 30 weeks is like, that's no big deal.

00:31:35.340 That happens all the time.

00:31:37.140 And it's really standard.

00:31:38.600 And these babies can easily survive.

00:31:41.460 They'd go to a NICU, but won't even have to go to the NICU for that long.

00:31:46.400 Our own twins, who were our most recent set of twins, were born early, several weeks early.

00:31:53.320 And they went to the NICU, I think, for one day.

00:31:56.460 And that was it.

00:31:58.460 The miracle of modern medicine.

00:31:59.840 So, according to him, women who come in for abortions that late in pregnancy, at least half of them are not, it's not because of some medical diagnosis.

00:32:16.580 It's not because they're going to die if they don't get an abortion, which, again, is totally mythological in the first place.

00:32:23.800 It's not because the babies are going to die anyway because of some severe fetal defect, which would not justify abortion even in those cases.

00:32:33.280 But that's not what it is.

00:32:34.900 He said these are just women who come in and they want to get an abortion.

00:32:36.640 And he doesn't care the reason.

00:32:40.700 If a woman comes to him 28 weeks pregnant and says, you know what, it's a boy and I wanted a girl, so go ahead and kill it, he'll do it.

00:32:48.860 And he has done it.

00:32:50.820 And this guy is still operating.

00:32:53.500 These are the kinds of stories that we need to be putting front and center.

00:32:58.400 We know that on the pro-abortion side, they want to make the entire conversation always revolve around the hardest cases, the rarest cases.

00:33:11.680 That's all they want to talk about.

00:33:13.700 They don't want to talk about this, even though this is happening all the time.

00:33:17.360 I mean, thousands and thousands and thousands of viable, developed infants who could have survived outside of the womb are killed, have been killed, thousands of them.

00:33:32.600 And it's still going on even now.

00:33:36.860 And this also shows why this issue of abortion, we cannot abandon it, okay?

00:33:47.360 And I know that there are some Republicans who, as far as they're concerned, they want to throw up the white flag and say, okay, we're done with this.

00:33:56.840 We're done fighting against this.

00:33:58.160 It's not popular.

00:33:59.300 It's not popular at the ballot box.

00:34:02.720 And I'm not convinced by that in the first place, okay?

00:34:06.680 I'm certainly not convinced by that.

00:34:08.280 In fact, I reject it.

00:34:10.280 I reject the idea that abortion is a losing political issue.

00:34:14.660 I reject that.

00:34:15.600 And if it is a losing political issue, it's not because of the issue itself fundamentally.

00:34:21.780 It's just because of the way that Republicans tend to approach the issue.

00:34:27.560 That they're too stupid in how they address this issue.

00:34:30.980 And they're too stupid to realize that stories like this should be plastered everywhere.

00:34:35.900 Okay, we have an abortionist currently in operation right now who is admitting proudly to killing developed infants that could survive outside the womb for no reason other than the fact that the woman just wants them dead.

00:34:50.240 So why are we not taking a story like this and plastering it everywhere, shouting about it from the rooftops?

00:34:56.160 If this, if this is a losing political issue, it's for that reason.

00:35:02.020 Because many Republicans and conservatives are too freaking stupid to realize how we should approach issues like this.

00:35:09.880 Like strategically stupid.

00:35:12.840 Strategic stupidity is the bane of conservatism and the Republican Party.

00:35:21.100 But if it was a losing political issue, even if I accepted that, well, that doesn't mean that we can just accept this.

00:35:32.100 If we get to the point where we say, okay, you know what, they're just slaughtering infants by the thousands.

00:35:41.920 And we're not going to talk about it anymore because we're afraid they're going to vote against us.

00:35:45.940 If we get to that point, then there's nothing left to fight for.

00:35:49.500 Pack it in.

00:35:50.900 Forget about it.

00:35:52.720 Like, just give up.

00:35:53.940 Okay, there's nothing left.

00:35:56.460 What are we going to say?

00:35:57.280 Oh, yeah, you know what, kill all the babies you want.

00:35:58.800 Let's, let's, let's, well, instead let's talk about gun rights and the, in immigration.

00:36:03.820 Those are important issues.

00:36:06.040 Are they more important than defending babies from being dismembered in the womb and thrown into garbage?

00:36:13.160 Into, into, into dumpsters?

00:36:16.040 Are they more important than that?

00:36:17.440 How could they be?

00:36:20.260 In fact, something like gun rights, the only reason that gun rights really matter is because human life matters.

00:36:26.300 All of these things, okay?

00:36:27.640 All of these other issues that you as a conservative, you might want to say these other, these other issues are more important.

00:36:33.780 Those other issues don't mean anything unless we all agree that human life has intrinsic value and worth.

00:36:43.680 If human life has no intrinsic value or worth, then who cares about your gun rights?

00:36:48.420 What is, so you have your gun to defend your life, but your life is meaningless.

00:36:52.020 Who cares?

00:36:52.460 What, what, what, what, what difference do, do the borders make if all of our lives are meaningless?

00:37:01.160 What different taxes?

00:37:03.220 Who cares about any of that?

00:37:05.760 None of that matters unless human life has inherent worth.

00:37:10.280 But if we accept something like this, if we accept abortion, then we're making a statement that human life has no inherent worth.

00:37:20.160 And once we accept that, everything else comes crumbling down.

00:37:24.980 So this is not an issue that we can give up on.

00:37:30.540 And it's pathetic that I even have to say that.

00:37:34.460 Only on the right.

00:37:35.280 You know, the left, this was never, on the right, we have this massive victory.

00:37:39.100 Roe v. Wade is overturned.

00:37:40.820 Massive.

00:37:41.180 Something we've been fighting for.

00:37:42.240 Some of us have been fighting for it for decades.

00:37:43.900 And we finally get it.

00:37:45.920 And the moment that it happens, you get a bunch of conservatives who become scared.

00:37:49.460 It's, I don't know, do we go too far?

00:37:50.960 They're mad at us now.

00:37:52.200 Oh, the voters are mad at us.

00:37:54.160 Retreat, retreat.

00:37:57.460 The left never does that.

00:37:59.660 They get a victory and they double down.

00:38:01.580 They say, you know what, we won that, you're damn right, and here's what we're doing next.

00:38:05.420 It's never enough.

00:38:06.560 They're never satisfied.

00:38:09.180 We get a victory and we're terrified.

00:38:11.120 We're frozen with fear if we actually get a victory.

00:38:17.980 We're afraid people will be mad, mad at us because of our victory.

00:38:21.780 It's pathetic.

00:38:25.160 And I have no interest in any Republican candidate who has that attitude about it.

00:38:28.620 Tell you that right now.

00:38:29.360 No interest.

00:38:33.860 All right, here's something on a little bit of a lighter note, or maybe not so much lighter.

00:38:38.380 Back in 1963, some Daily Wire, Elizabeth Taylor, then the hottest actress in the world, starred

00:38:43.260 as Cleopatra in an over-the-top, stardust-studded blockbuster with a $31 million budget, equal

00:38:49.040 to $327 million in today's dollars.

00:38:52.820 Taylor likely didn't look much like the Egyptian queen, what with her lily-white skin and dark

00:38:57.040 blue eyes with purple irises.

00:38:58.780 But back then, everything wasn't so politically correct and people didn't take offense at

00:39:01.780 meaningless things.

00:39:02.420 Skip ahead 60 years.

00:39:03.480 Netflix's new documentary, Queen Cleopatra, has drawn controversy and blackwashing claims

00:39:09.520 after Adele James, a black actress, was cast in a lead role as Cleopatra.

00:39:14.800 And yes, in fact, historical records show that Cleopatra was not black, but Macedonian Greek.

00:39:19.920 The documentary part of the African Queen series explores the rise and fall of the last pharaoh

00:39:24.760 of Egypt and was released on May 10th.

00:39:27.000 But it's the dismal ratings that are making headlines.

00:39:29.380 The documentary currently has a 2% audience rating on Rotten Tomatoes, which Forbes says

00:39:35.980 is the lowest in history.

00:39:38.380 The average tomato meter score, which calculates how many critics rate it favorably, stands

00:39:42.880 at 10%.

00:39:43.840 So it is a 10% rating among the critics and a 2% rating among the actual regular audience.

00:39:50.960 Here's how bad it is.

00:39:53.800 The worst film on the movie rating site, Ballistic X vs. Sever, in 2002, has a 0% rating on the

00:39:59.800 tomato meter, but a 20% favorable rating by the audience.

00:40:03.120 Another stinker, One Missed Call from 2008, also has a 0% tomato meter, but a 20% audience

00:40:08.960 score.

00:40:09.700 And the Nicolas Cage bomb Left Behind from 2014 got 0% from the critics, but 22% from the

00:40:15.140 audience.

00:40:16.440 Whereas this only has 2% from the audience.

00:40:18.620 Forbes notes that the creator of the series, Tina Garvey, has defended the casting choice.

00:40:24.180 She said, quote,

00:40:25.540 Why shouldn't Cleopatra be a melanated sister?

00:40:28.100 And why do some people need Cleopatra to be white?

00:40:30.180 Her proximity to whiteness seems to give her value, and for some Egyptians, it seems to

00:40:33.980 really matter.

00:40:34.980 After much hand-wringing and countless auditions, we found in Adele James an actor who could convey

00:40:39.960 not only Cleopatra's beauty, but also her strength.

00:40:42.580 What the historians can confirm is that it is more likely that Cleopatra looked like Adele

00:40:46.780 than Elizabeth Taylor ever did.

00:40:50.340 You know, here's the thing about this.

00:40:52.520 I could be perfectly fine with the race swapping of fictional characters.

00:41:02.580 I could be completely fine with that.

00:41:04.900 And even with historical figures, I could be fine with that too.

00:41:07.520 You know, a different take, a different interpretation on a historical figure, any biopic, even something

00:41:15.440 that builds itself as a documentary as this does.

00:41:17.740 But all these films, they all fictionalize the lives of these historical figures to some

00:41:22.480 degree.

00:41:23.540 And so I could be okay with a version of a story where they swap the race out and they

00:41:28.560 take a white historical figure and have a black actor or actress portray them.

00:41:33.300 I could be totally fine with that if we had a consistent standard for these sorts of things.

00:41:43.220 Okay?

00:41:43.660 If we just took the approach across the board that, hey, you know, whichever actor, you

00:41:49.540 know, seems to nail the role the best, just cast them.

00:41:53.260 It doesn't really matter what their race is.

00:41:55.120 And there's a little bit of suspension of disbelief.

00:41:57.220 But again, you know, all these stories are, these are either fictional stories or at a

00:42:01.840 minimum, they are fictionalized accounts of historical events.

00:42:06.380 And so it doesn't, you know, the race doesn't matter.

00:42:09.540 If that was our attitude across the board, then I'd be fine with that.

00:42:14.440 I'd be on board with that.

00:42:17.440 But we know that's not the case.

00:42:19.320 Um, we know that, uh, this would never go the other way.

00:42:24.860 It never could go the other way.

00:42:28.140 You certainly would not find Netflix putting out a documentary about a black, an actual

00:42:35.040 black historical figure being portrayed by a white person.

00:42:38.760 That would never happen.

00:42:40.540 But if there is any hope of compromise, if this is one issue we can compromise on, I'd

00:42:45.060 take that compromise.

00:42:47.300 Race, race swapping.

00:42:48.240 You know, have fun with it.

00:42:49.580 Do everything you want.

00:42:50.480 You want to put out a biopic about Martin Luther King Jr.

00:42:52.660 And actually have, um, someone like Ryan Gosling portray him, go ahead and do it.

00:42:58.500 That would, uh, you know, it would, it would make for some interesting films at least.

00:43:02.860 But they want to take one standard and, uh, and apply it, you know, inconsistently to

00:43:08.020 one group of people.

00:43:09.520 And, uh, and that just doesn't work.

00:43:11.560 You can't, it's, you can't do that.

00:43:14.220 We're going to hold you by your own standards.

00:43:16.040 But that's the point that it is on the left.

00:43:18.380 This is your standard.

00:43:20.380 It's not that we really care that much about race swapping.

00:43:24.280 It's not, it's not our issue.

00:43:26.520 You care about it.

00:43:27.660 And so we are holding you to your own standard.

00:43:30.320 You know, we can't, we can't depend on you to do that.

00:43:33.320 This can't be an honor system sort of thing.

00:43:35.740 So we have to force you to stand by your own standards.

00:43:39.520 All right, let's get to the comment section.

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00:44:53.240 Cindy Lou says, totally disagree with your comment that having a pet rather than a child is selfish.

00:44:57.580 You can't actually believe that came out of your mouth.

00:45:00.500 Really, you can't?

00:45:01.000 You can't believe that I said that?

00:45:02.780 I assume that was the first episode you've ever watched of the show, if it surprised you

00:45:09.280 to hear me say that.

00:45:10.220 I highly doubt that people actually get animals in place of children.

00:45:12.900 Did you ever think that some people feel it is more selfish to bring a child into a world

00:45:16.680 that is so screwed up?

00:45:18.320 It's also selfish to bring children into poverty, yet the Catholic religion espouses having child

00:45:22.340 after child.

00:45:22.900 Having children is a privilege, it's not a right.

00:45:27.580 Okay, first of all, why is that selfish?

00:45:30.520 Is life not worth living if you're poor?

00:45:33.460 Do poor people not deserve to have a legacy and descendants that they leave behind?

00:45:38.160 Are you saying that if you're a poor person, you should just embrace the death of your own

00:45:42.220 bloodline because you're poor?

00:45:44.660 I mean, is that your claim here?

00:45:45.740 And people absolutely do have pets instead of children.

00:45:50.820 Many pet owners will admit that.

00:45:54.800 And even if they won't admit it, people talk about their pets as if the pets are actual children

00:46:02.060 of theirs.

00:46:02.520 So this is not something that I'm making up.

00:46:07.320 I think if you talk to pet owners, they will tell you that.

00:46:10.860 There are plenty of pet owners who will also, and I know this because I've been told this

00:46:13.760 many times, who will quite openly say that they value the lives of their pets over the

00:46:20.020 lives of other human beings.

00:46:22.460 This is an actual mentality that it's disturbing, but it's a very real mentality that people have.

00:46:28.580 Dara says, Lonesome Dove is by far the greatest Western ever made.

00:46:35.260 You know, I think I would certainly put it in the top three.

00:46:38.600 And it's also one of the greatest, it's certainly one of the greatest television miniseries.

00:46:43.520 I think it's probably the best television miniseries of all time.

00:46:46.400 I would put it like, well, that's a tough call because I would probably say Lonesome Dove,

00:46:52.600 Chernobyl, and then Band of Brothers is how I would rate them.

00:46:57.080 But Lonesome Dove, of all the things that have ever been put on film, whether it's a show,

00:47:01.980 miniseries, a movie, I'd put it in the top 15, 10, 15 in that cut, you know, of all things

00:47:08.000 ever put on screen.

00:47:11.100 Qatari says, so much of this show is going to be clipped by Media Matters in an attempt

00:47:14.520 to cancel Matt.

00:47:15.940 Yeah, there were a couple of moments from the show yesterday that I figured Media Matters

00:47:19.800 would grab, but they didn't.

00:47:22.540 The only thing they clipped was the part about single moms, where I said that we shouldn't

00:47:27.980 celebrate single motherhood.

00:47:29.600 And one of the reasons we shouldn't celebrate it is because many single moms choose to be

00:47:34.100 single moms.

00:47:34.720 So that was the only thing.

00:47:36.180 I was like, you know, oftentimes I'm disappointed by the editorial decisions that Media Matters

00:47:42.400 makes.

00:47:43.620 In many cases, I'll do a show.

00:47:45.620 And at the end of the show, I'll think to myself, okay, well, there's like three things

00:47:50.040 Media Matters could pull, try to make a controversy out of it.

00:47:53.100 But then they go and grab something else.

00:47:56.000 They take something that was one of the least controversial things I said in that episode,

00:47:59.660 and that's what they run with?

00:48:03.760 I mean, they could always, you know what, this, and maybe this would help Media Matters

00:48:07.300 out a little bit.

00:48:08.460 You could always ask me.

00:48:09.760 I, you know, I think I have a better grasp on what things are controversial that I'm

00:48:15.660 saying and what aren't.

00:48:17.400 So you could always just shoot me an email at the end of every show and just say, hey,

00:48:21.540 what do you think your most controversial clips are that are going to make people mad

00:48:24.180 at you?

00:48:24.480 And I'll let you know.

00:48:25.700 I'll tell you where to look.

00:48:26.500 I'm happy to help, and I wouldn't even charge for it.

00:48:30.240 Rational Bacon says, it's weird, maybe I'm just old-fashioned, but I've always just

00:48:34.020 left crappy workplaces.

00:48:35.580 I never needed a cry session about it.

00:48:37.300 JR says, as a very emotional woman, I have definitely hidden somewhere and cried at work

00:48:43.180 at least once.

00:48:44.500 That doesn't mean work was traumatic, though.

00:48:46.660 It just means I cry easily.

00:48:49.540 Well, that's okay.

00:48:50.280 I can accept that.

00:48:52.900 Well, you shouldn't be crying at work at all, whether you're a male or female, but I can

00:48:57.760 come close to accepting it for women on occasion.

00:49:04.160 As long as you acknowledge that what you're crying about is not actually a traumatic event.

00:49:09.340 It's just you being emotional.

00:49:13.100 Tom says, see the term trauma dumping.

00:49:15.380 It's what we've evolved to expect.

00:49:16.940 Everyone is traumatized, and it's a race to the bottom of the brainstem.

00:49:20.420 Everyone both has and needs a trauma story.

00:49:23.000 The more privileged, the more ridiculous.

00:49:24.480 You must escalate your trauma experience.

00:49:26.820 It's what millennials, Gen Zs, and all the traumatized people behind them must mobilize.

00:49:31.240 We've taught them to do it.

00:49:32.820 They know they need to have a trauma story or they get nothing.

00:49:35.520 So trauma it is, and they're all narcissists.

00:49:39.560 Yeah, and this is another way to figure out if you've experienced actual trauma or not.

00:49:44.640 A very good litmus test is if you like talking about the experience,

00:49:52.020 if you talk about this traumatic experience, allegedly traumatic experience, any chance

00:49:57.060 you get, then there's a very good chance that it was not really traumatic.

00:50:04.140 Because if you go through a truly traumatic experience, in my life, I've maybe had one

00:50:10.980 or two experiences that I think would probably qualify as legitimately traumatizing, but I've

00:50:18.560 never talked about them in any detail at all publicly and never would, because it's not

00:50:22.460 the kind of, it's something like that.

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00:50:39.800 If you're using it to manipulate people's emotions, to draw pity out of people, then it's

00:50:45.540 not traumatic to you, it's just, it's all a game.

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00:52:13.980 A shocking and tragic video went viral on TikTok last week.

00:52:17.900 It was originally posted by a woman named Haley, who deleted the video shortly after posting

00:52:22.480 it, but then posted it again later for some reason.

00:52:25.600 And the reposted video got 750,000 views, but it was then shared on another TikTok channel,

00:52:31.360 including one run by an educator and advocate named Laura.

00:52:35.840 And on her page, it garnered 2.5 million views, along with many thousands of shares and comments.

00:52:42.080 Haley's story apparently resonates deeply with many TikTok users, especially the young women

00:52:47.240 who are on TikTok.

00:52:49.440 It also spawned a whole bunch of videos from other women who were inspired by Haley to tell

00:52:53.960 their own stories.

00:52:54.800 And they truly are, speaking of trauma, these are stories of incredible suffering and hardship.

00:53:01.540 Gut-wrenching tales of unimaginable horrors.

00:53:05.280 Apparently, lots of women feel that their husbands don't do enough to celebrate Mother's Day.

00:53:11.960 And now their only recourse is to complain about it online to millions of strangers.

00:53:16.620 And here's Haley getting the wine festival kicked off.

00:53:20.100 Listen.

00:53:20.200 So Mother's Day is coming up on Sunday, and I'm a mom of one-year-old twin girls.

00:53:26.060 My older sister is a mom.

00:53:27.700 My mother is the mother of us two and our two other siblings.

00:53:31.280 And I was FaceTiming my mom and sisters last night, and we are planning Mother's Day dinner.

00:53:36.160 So we're deciding what we're going to eat, what time it's going to be.

00:53:39.060 I'm bringing a food assignment.

00:53:40.300 My sister's bringing a food assignment.

00:53:41.760 My mom's preparing the main meal.

00:53:44.200 Why is it this way?

00:53:45.780 Why can men not be better than this?

00:53:48.280 And yes, I love my husband.

00:53:49.480 He's a great guy.

00:53:50.620 He's really trying.

00:53:51.780 I actually think he's trying.

00:53:53.220 And we're, like, progressive.

00:53:54.580 We're, like, working on this.

00:53:56.580 But yet still, like, this is how it is.

00:53:59.280 And my husband's on a work trip right now.

00:54:01.160 My mom's husband, my stepdad, like, tore his ACL, whatever.

00:54:04.080 There's, like, maybe reasons.

00:54:05.760 But if I was on a work trip or my mom tore her ACL, we would still probably be planning it.

00:54:11.340 Especially if it was Father's Day.

00:54:12.780 And I just feel so frustrated right now.

00:54:15.960 Because I feel like not only do women bear so much more of the emotional labor, women also have to bear the emotional labor on behalf of other women when their men and their lives don't show up for them.

00:54:28.780 Right?

00:54:29.040 So, like, I know if my stepdad doesn't do something for my mom for Mother's Day, I have to step in and do something even more.

00:54:35.580 Because he's not, like, taking care of her.

00:54:37.920 And my mom knows if my husband's going to drop the ball on Mother's Day, then she wants to, like, take care of me.

00:54:42.280 Because we want to take care of each other and we want each other to be happy.

00:54:48.160 And it's so frustrating to me.

00:54:50.580 Like, I know that men, I'm not saying they're bad or, like, not trying.

00:54:56.920 But, like, it just upsets me that it's this way.

00:55:00.400 And I just, like, don't know.

00:55:03.800 I'm sorry.

00:55:04.580 I'm crying.

00:55:05.060 I have the worst crying voice.

00:55:06.200 And also, if you're going to be, like, why do people film themselves crying?

00:55:08.920 Like, go away.

00:55:10.060 I know, like, I know it can be better than this.

00:55:13.600 It's just I don't think, like, I can emphasize enough how much of this emotional labor women carry.

00:55:22.060 And trying to, like, work to, like, get my husband to understand this and the other men in my life, like, that's labor in and of itself.

00:55:29.060 And sure, we could just ask him to do it.

00:55:30.780 But that's also labor.

00:55:34.600 Yeah, God forbid you just have to communicate directly with your husband and say what you want and what you're upset about.

00:55:40.380 You know, God forbid you do that.

00:55:43.340 Yeah, much better to play games, manipulative games where you won't speak directly to them.

00:55:48.620 But you can still make a TikTok video.

00:55:51.520 See, you'll tell everybody else what you're upset about, but you won't just say to your husband, hey, here's what I would like.

00:55:57.080 Or here's what I would like for Mother's Day or whatever.

00:55:59.700 So there it is.

00:56:00.400 The women planned their own Mother's Day dinner because they decided several days ahead of time that the men weren't doing enough for Mother's Day.

00:56:08.080 Notice she never said that the men weren't going to do anything for Mother's Day.

00:56:10.780 There's no indication that they would or had in the past completely ignored the day.

00:56:14.040 But it wasn't enough or wasn't going to be enough, they decided.

00:56:17.680 The men in their lives were selfishly distracted with things like work and providing for their families and medical emergencies.

00:56:23.920 The stepdad, it seems, had his Mother's Day planning maybe interrupted by a crippling leg injury.

00:56:28.360 What a selfish bastard.

00:56:32.120 Now, I'd like to submit a few points for consideration here.

00:56:34.680 And the first point is very important, and it's this.

00:56:38.480 Whatever the reason for your marital spat, you are automatically the bad guy when you decide to go on the Internet and throw your spouse under the bus.

00:56:49.840 Haley already has her mom, her sister to commiserate with.

00:56:53.760 And it sounds like the three of them have done plenty of commiserating about this.

00:56:58.980 A woman like this also almost certainly has at least a few friends that she keeps in her back pocket so that they can act as sounding boards for her complaints.

00:57:06.020 But that's not enough.

00:57:07.180 After whining to her mom, to her sisters, her friends, she still has enough complaint energy saved up to go on the Internet and whine to the entire world.

00:57:16.780 And what this tells me is, first of all, she has no respect for her husband.

00:57:20.700 The fact that she would scold him publicly like this only reveals her own flaws as a wife, and those flaws are deep and serious.

00:57:29.220 Now, maybe she does go out of her way to plan elaborate Father's Day events for him, though I doubt that's the case.

00:57:34.460 But that doesn't mean much, because for one thing, she's doing it with strings attached.

00:57:39.380 She's doing it, well, I'm doing all this for you, so you better do something that I feel is equal to this for Mother's Day.

00:57:46.140 And the moment you have that attitude about a gift or about something special you're doing for a loved one, it doesn't mean anything, actually.

00:57:55.660 It is the thought that counts at the end of the day.

00:57:57.800 And if you're doing something with the expectation that you are going to get the exact same sort of thing in return, it means nothing.

00:58:08.720 That's just mercenary.

00:58:09.900 That's all that is.

00:58:10.980 It's self-centered.

00:58:12.240 You're not actually worried about doing something special for this person.

00:58:15.660 And for another thing, whatever she gives him on Father's Day, she's not giving him what he needs the other 364 days of the year, which is at a basic level of respect, including respecting his privacy as an individual and their privacy as a couple.

00:58:31.780 But the other thing this video shows is that she wants to have something to complain about.

00:58:37.260 She wants to be the victim.

00:58:39.340 She has a martyr complex.

00:58:41.300 You don't share things on the Internet unless you want lots of people to know about it.

00:58:45.280 And why would you want lots of people to know about your squabbles with your spouse?

00:58:49.980 Well, because you believe that it makes you look like a persecuted saint.

00:58:53.840 Your spouse's shortcomings are a pedestal for you to step on to elevate yourself in the eyes of the world.

00:58:59.780 This is the only reason why you would complain about your spouse on the Internet.

00:59:04.620 And Haley basically confirmed this point herself in a follow-up video that she posted a few days after this, reacting to some of the feedback that she got.

00:59:13.940 Here it is.

00:59:15.060 I am just coming up for air and have a few more things to say about the Mother's Day video heard around the world.

00:59:21.780 I'm really, really grateful to be so seen and heard and validated by so many of you.

00:59:27.020 And I'm super sad that this is such a common experience.

00:59:31.360 It really bums me out.

00:59:33.100 But I don't think it serves any of us to suffer in silence and to feel isolated in this.

00:59:38.820 And that's why I chose to share.

00:59:40.800 And I'm glad it could open up a dialogue and a space to talk about it.

00:59:44.640 I was worried people would make really large assumptions about myself and my husband and my marriage.

00:59:50.120 And that has definitely been the case.

00:59:51.800 There are people telling me my marriage is a sham.

00:59:54.400 My husband's a terrible person.

00:59:56.180 I'm delusional and stupid.

00:59:57.960 And I enable this bad behavior.

01:00:01.840 I should get a divorce.

01:00:03.440 It's not fun.

01:00:04.340 But I think the really sad thing to me about that is those comments are why women feel the need to maintain a facade of perfection around their relationships.

01:00:13.800 Because if they do open up about these really significant issues and major points of dysfunction, that is what a lot of people are going to say to them.

01:00:23.340 My husband is very actively working on this.

01:00:26.020 If he wasn't, I would leave him.

01:00:28.060 But he is very willing to put in the work.

01:00:30.480 We are going to couples therapy together.

01:00:32.260 He's doing his own therapy.

01:00:34.560 He knows that I do not accept his behavior.

01:00:37.880 I do not justify it.

01:00:39.140 I do not accept it.

01:00:40.520 I deserve better.

01:00:41.460 I know that.

01:00:42.040 He knows that.

01:00:43.800 This is a very important video.

01:00:46.700 It actually is very important for men.

01:00:49.600 Because men, you need to watch this video and take note of all the red flags if you're a single man.

01:00:56.740 And know what those red flags are.

01:00:58.880 Because if you meet a woman like this kind of woman, run the other direction.

01:01:05.900 This is not the kind of woman you want to end up with.

01:01:08.480 Talking about her husband like he's some kind of dog, you know, that she has to train.

01:01:16.340 She says, I deserve better.

01:01:19.320 No, you don't deserve better, sweetheart.

01:01:21.820 You don't actually deserve over-the-top celebrations when this is how you treat your husband.

01:01:26.700 You don't deserve any of that.

01:01:27.780 Notice how she says that lots of people are dumping on her husband, calling him a terrible person, and so on.

01:01:33.980 And the only reason this upsets her is that it makes her look bad.

01:01:37.720 Okay?

01:01:38.440 But she assures us that she has forced her husband into therapy to work on his major points of dysfunction.

01:01:45.160 Like not planning Mother's Day dinner.

01:01:47.880 That's a major point of dysfunction that is causing her to suffer.

01:01:56.740 She also tells us that if he wasn't doing as he was told, she would leave him.

01:02:02.080 And why did she decide to share all this with us?

01:02:04.300 Well, as she says, it makes her feel seen and validated.

01:02:08.800 She's the kind of woman who cannot get enough validation, which is why she seeks it on social media.

01:02:13.940 And this also shows us that most likely, no matter what her husband did for her on Mother's Day, it's almost certainly not going to be enough.

01:02:23.000 She needs extreme amounts of validation.

01:02:25.680 She needs validation wholesale.

01:02:27.660 She's shopping at Costco for her validation.

01:02:30.120 She's buying it in the largest possible quantities, and she can't get enough of it.

01:02:34.260 And it seems likely that her husband has certainly noticed this by now, is aware that no matter what he does, it won't be good enough.

01:02:43.100 And so maybe at this point he stopped trying.

01:02:45.940 That's another thing to keep in mind.

01:02:47.340 When you're in a marriage and nothing that your spouse does is ever good enough, eventually they will stop trying because they're going to figure it doesn't matter.

01:02:55.440 I can't do anything for you without you having a problem with it.

01:03:00.640 Now, I don't know if that's the case here, but it is quite often the case, and all signs are pointing in that direction.

01:03:07.380 And at any rate, this is a possibility that I think she should consider.

01:03:10.360 It's a rule of thumb for everyone in a marriage to keep in mind.

01:03:14.900 Whenever you have a dispute with your spouse, if the story that you tell yourself and tell your mom and your sister and your friends and the internet is one where you are 100% the good guy and your spouse is 100% the bad guy,

01:03:29.540 a story where you have done everything the right way and they've done everything the wrong way and it's all their fault, that's a pretty good indication that your perception is flawed.

01:03:39.720 Because disputes between people, especially people in close relationships, are rarely so simple or one-sided.

01:03:45.500 And I'm guessing that if we could hear from her husband and he was willing to share, he would have a great many details to share with us that would make his alleged lack of effort on Mother's Day seem petty by comparison.

01:03:57.880 It already seems petty, even without that additional context.

01:04:01.480 But we aren't hearing from her husband because, unlike Haley, he is not unloading all of his complaints publicly on the internets as content for strangers to consume.

01:04:11.260 And that brings us to our last point.

01:04:15.000 Emotional labor is one of the most toxic inventions of modern society.

01:04:20.120 It is poison.

01:04:21.840 And here's another red flag.

01:04:23.200 If you're a man and you meet a woman who uses this phrase unironically, again, run the other way immediately.

01:04:30.960 Get out while you still can.

01:04:33.420 I can't even imagine my wife talking about emotional labor.

01:04:37.020 I don't think she'd be able to say it without laughing.

01:04:38.740 And that's the kind of attitude you want in a woman.

01:04:41.900 It tells you that she's a serious person.

01:04:44.040 She's not a frivolous drama queen with a martyr complex.

01:04:46.420 And she has a sense of humor.

01:04:48.680 And the problem with the emotional labor idea is twofold.

01:04:51.020 First of all, it doesn't make any sense.

01:04:52.760 It doesn't exist.

01:04:54.100 Labor is, by definition, physical work.

01:04:56.680 It's something that you actively do.

01:04:58.660 It's an activity that you participate in.

01:05:01.740 Labor is effort.

01:05:02.960 Labor is activity.

01:05:04.200 Emotions, on the other hand, they're just things that you feel.

01:05:06.760 You aren't doing anything by simply experiencing emotions.

01:05:11.260 There's no labor involved.

01:05:14.080 But people who take this emotional labor idea seriously will tell themselves that simply by

01:05:18.780 feeling things, by sitting around and having feelings, they've accomplished something.

01:05:25.900 And this means that somebody like Haley can do very little, can contribute almost nothing to the

01:05:30.480 family, and still tell herself that she has, in fact, done the most because of all the feelings

01:05:35.860 that she has.

01:05:38.060 Emotional labor is a concept invented by lazy non-contributors meant to give them the right

01:05:42.620 to act exhausted and put upon, even when they've done basically nothing at all.

01:05:47.560 The other problem is that there is no way to measure emotional labor.

01:05:50.840 If emotional labor exists, there's no way to know how much of this kind of labor a person is doing.

01:05:55.620 The only way to know about a person's emotional labor is if they tell you about it, if they

01:06:00.000 complain, if they suffer their emotions loudly and publicly.

01:06:04.740 And this is why women like Haley assume that their husbands aren't doing the same amount of

01:06:09.140 this kind of quote-unquote labor.

01:06:11.100 Her husband doesn't whine about it.

01:06:12.760 He doesn't constantly dump his feelings in her lap for her to sort through.

01:06:16.300 And so she assumes that this means that he has no feelings.

01:06:20.600 Haley doesn't experience more emotions than her husband.

01:06:23.620 And she just experiences them louder and more publicly.

01:06:27.320 And this is a point that even women who are not like Haley still need to understand.

01:06:31.680 And I think sometimes struggle to understand.

01:06:34.140 It's that men tend to be more stoic.

01:06:36.660 We tend to carry our emotional burdens, our anxieties and fears and frustrations internally

01:06:41.200 and quietly.

01:06:42.300 That doesn't mean that we don't experience them.

01:06:44.540 It doesn't mean that we don't have anxiety or fear or frustration.

01:06:47.680 It doesn't mean we don't have it to the same degree that you do.

01:06:49.640 It just means that we don't want to turn it into your problem.

01:06:53.620 And this may cause you a certain amount of distress, and you may wish that we'd open

01:06:57.960 up more.

01:06:58.420 And maybe we should open up a little bit more.

01:07:00.400 But what I can assure you is this.

01:07:02.480 If you married a man who was as open with his emotions as you are, you would not like

01:07:09.040 it.

01:07:09.920 In fact, you would struggle to respect a man who doesn't know how to bear his burdens

01:07:14.200 with quiet dignity.

01:07:15.100 That's the kind of thing, it's like, it's the kind of thing that sometimes can be difficult

01:07:19.820 for women to appreciate men in their lives who do that until they experience a man who

01:07:25.080 doesn't.

01:07:25.960 It's very difficult to appreciate men who carry their emotional burdens quietly until

01:07:30.640 you are inflicted by the kind of man who will not do that, will not carry them quietly

01:07:35.620 and will tell you all about it.

01:07:37.780 And then you start, now you have the comparison, you start to say, oh, you know what, I think

01:07:40.680 I prefer this other strategy.

01:07:44.260 You may not appreciate the fact that your husband does this, that he keeps many of his

01:07:47.260 feelings to himself.

01:07:48.080 But if he stopped doing it again, you would notice and you would not be happy.

01:07:51.660 If he gave you too much evidence of his own emotional labor, it would be a major problem.

01:07:56.240 And that's because, as it turns out, men and women are different.

01:07:59.300 And even though those differences can cause tension in a marriage, it's much better than

01:08:03.880 the alternative.

01:08:05.280 If Haley and her husband were exactly the same, you know, he might be much better at planning

01:08:09.980 Mother's Day brunch or whatever, but then she would just be married to a version of herself.

01:08:15.040 And she would discover that there was already enough of her in the relationship and she didn't

01:08:18.600 need a second one.

01:08:21.020 Hopefully she comes to understand this before it's too late.

01:08:23.720 But until then, she is today, I'm afraid to say, canceled.

01:08:27.620 And that'll do it for this portion of shows.

01:08:29.260 Move over to the members block.

01:08:30.160 Hope to see you there.

01:08:31.260 If not, talk to you tomorrow.

01:08:32.740 Godspeed.

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