The Matt Walsh Show - October 04, 2018


Ep. 117 - Kavanaugh Backfiring Big Time on Democrats


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The FBI investigation into the allegations against Brett and Christine Ford appears to have found no evidence of sexual assault. Does that mean that Christine Ford is a liar? Or is this a case of mistaken identity? And if so, who is to blame?

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00:00:00.000 Well, it looks like we might finally be getting to the end of the Kavanaugh saga.
00:00:04.960 The FBI report is done. Will we ever see it? Seems not. But we do know that Democrats
00:00:11.280 and Christine Ford's attorneys have already complained that it's unfair, the investigation
00:00:18.560 was unfair, yada, yada, yada. They're saying that it's not a legitimate, and this is a huge shock,
00:00:24.800 by the way. No one saw this coming. I mean, we all thought that they would
00:00:27.960 certainly accept the results, right? That's what we all thought.
00:00:33.220 One complaint, I think a really stupid complaint is, well, the FBI didn't interview Christine Ford
00:00:39.080 or Brett Kavanaugh. Well, we've already heard from them. They've given their side of the story
00:00:45.360 in lengthy interviews in front of the Senate. So all the FBI would do is just ask them the same
00:00:53.340 exact questions again, which actually, you know, Ford's attorney should be happy that she wasn't 0.99
00:01:02.680 interviewed because she's the one with the constantly changing story. So she may not hold up well under
00:01:10.980 FBI interrogation. But they did interview all the alleged witnesses and everything so that there's no point
00:01:20.260 in them hearing yet again the same story from Kavanaugh and Ford. Instead, okay, they're going to go and
00:01:27.220 listen to the alleged witnesses. Let's get their stories. But they don't like that. So I think we can ascertain
00:01:34.900 from that that the investigation didn't uncover anything and didn't corroborate Ford's accounts.
00:01:43.240 In fact, if it uncovered anything, it just further uncovered the fact that Christine Ford is lying.
00:01:50.820 And I just want to underscore that point quickly. I wrote about this yesterday. And, you know, I was
00:01:57.000 among those in the early going who I wanted to be gentle with Christine Ford, and I wanted to be
00:02:03.820 generous to her, give her the benefit of the doubt as much as possible. And that doesn't mean taking
00:02:12.420 her story at face value, because I never did that. You know, smart person, you never should have done
00:02:17.920 that. Because there were always holes in the story and so on and so forth. But I thought, okay, maybe,
00:02:25.440 and I said this multiple times, you know, I said, maybe she was, maybe she's mistaken, maybe she's
00:02:30.340 misremembering. Even as the inconsistencies piled up, I said, like many supporters of Brett Kavanaugh,
00:02:36.880 and like Brett Kavanaugh himself, I mean, he said this himself on multiple occasions, that maybe
00:02:41.900 something bad did happen to her. And she's just conflating. She's, she's misconstruing, accidentally
00:02:48.620 conflating one thing with another, injecting Brett Kavanaugh into it accidentally. Maybe that's, that's what I
00:02:56.740 thought. That's, that's what I mean by giving her the benefit of the doubt. But I think now, now that
00:03:01.740 we've seen all this play out, and we've seen the evidence, or lack thereof, or really, we've seen
00:03:09.000 the evidence, which all comes down in Kavanaugh's favor, I think we have to stop being so gentle about
00:03:13.800 it, and say what is now very difficult to avoid, what I think is a plain reality, which is that Christine
00:03:21.860 Ford is a liar. She may still have been victimized at some point, in some form, at some point in her 0.76
00:03:30.280 life. And, and if, if that's the case, then I feel badly for her, for that abuse, if she ever did suffer
00:03:38.120 it at some point. But it's just not possible anymore for someone, for a rational person to say,
00:03:44.680 to theorize that this may all be a case of mistaken identity. Somebody, somebody is a liar here. Somebody
00:03:54.400 is a straight up liar. And to me, it seems very clear that that person is Christine Ford.
00:04:04.100 And that's the, there's a reason why Rachel Mitchell, who's the sex crimes prosecutor hired by 1.00
00:04:08.780 the Republicans, there's a reason why she wrote that lengthy memo we talked about a few days ago,
00:04:12.360 where she said she didn't find the story credible at all. There are too many gaps, and not just gaps,
00:04:17.260 but the gaps are far too convenient that she can't remember specific, she specifically can't remember
00:04:23.440 any of the details that may exonerate Ford or, or, or, or may confirm that she, any of the details that
00:04:33.780 could confirm or disprove her claim, she can't remember any of those conveniently. She also can't
00:04:41.700 remember the things that she did and said even a few months ago. So here's the thing. If her memory
00:04:46.880 is really that terrible, that she can't remember anything, even, even things that happened in the
00:04:52.600 last month or two. Well, in that case, if her memory is that bad, I have a bad memory. Okay. I know that I
00:05:00.200 have a bad memory. That's one thing I remember is having a bad memory. If her memory is really bad,
00:05:05.540 and it seems like her memory would be worse than mine. If, if this really isn't a memory issue,
00:05:10.160 then she knows that her memory is bad, which means she knows that she cannot speak with absolute
00:05:17.120 certainty about something that happened 35 years ago. So even in that case, even if most of this is
00:05:23.600 a memory issue, uh, we still have, she said it was, she's a hundred percent sure it was Kavanaugh,
00:05:29.540 but if her memory is that bad, then she knows that she can't possibly be 100% sure. So at a minimum,
00:05:36.560 that's a lie. And it's a big one. Um, but, uh, but it's more than that Ford story has changed over
00:05:44.400 and over again. And it's changed in a way that's not, that is, that is not just haphazard. It's
00:05:50.800 changed in ways that seem calculated and targeted, uh, to kind of get around Kavanaugh's defenses.
00:05:57.520 So if we're going to absolve her of all dishonesty at this point, then we have to believe
00:06:02.840 that her memory lapses are coincidentally convenient and the gaps in her story are
00:06:09.900 coincidentally convenient and the changes in her story are coincidentally convenient. Um,
00:06:15.820 and not only that, but it's also coincidentally convenient that all of the, the witnesses that
00:06:22.360 she claims have also suffered amnesia, uh, around the same kinds of events. Then there's
00:06:29.660 Ford's ex-boyfriend who came out, issued a sworn statement claiming that, uh, Ford coached her
00:06:34.720 friend on how to pass a lie detector test, claimed that Ford flew recreationally all the time, which
00:06:40.260 would seem to dispel the notion that she has this fear of flying. Ford never once mentioned any sexual
00:06:46.100 assault, despite having dated him for years. Now on the, on the lie detector thing, the, the friend
00:06:54.540 that Ford supposedly coached did come out the next day and denied, denied it, but notice something.
00:07:03.280 First of all, she denied it to the press. She didn't deny it under oath. Second, and I'm not saying
00:07:09.060 it's true, but she has to deny it because if she admitted that she was coached on how to pass a lie
00:07:15.820 detector test when going for this, whatever government job, she would lose her job and she
00:07:20.800 could even go to jail. So she can't, she has no, if it happened, she has no choice, but to deny it.
00:07:26.140 Uh, it would ruin her career, ruin everything.
00:07:30.840 But the real significance, uh, I think of her boyfriend's testimony
00:07:36.340 is that it is just another person who denies or refutes elements of Ford's story.
00:07:45.760 So if Ford isn't lying, it means that her ex-boyfriend is lying. It means that Kavanaugh is
00:07:50.860 lying. It means Mark judge is lying. And it means two other witnesses as well are either suffering
00:07:55.260 selective amnesia or are lying. So it's five against one. Okay. And that one five against one. And the one
00:08:02.740 is a very, very lonely one. You know, one is a lonely number, especially for Ford, because think
00:08:09.360 about what it's only one. And that means that not even her parents or other family members or other
00:08:17.500 friends, nobody has come forward to vouch for any aspect of her story at all. And in fact, I think the
00:08:26.180 silence of the people around her is so deafening and so noticeable and so peculiar that it almost
00:08:35.300 counts as yet another witness against her. Um, so she's lying. Where did the lie originate? Where
00:08:45.240 did it begin? Why did it begin? You know, why would she lie about that? That's a question we hear a lot
00:08:50.840 is, well, why, why would somebody lie about something like this? Uh, well, I, I don't know.
00:08:57.540 We can only speculate. And it's actually, it's not that hard to speculate. It's not that hard to
00:09:02.100 believe that somebody could lie about something like this. Number one, because we know people lie
00:09:07.460 about this kind of stuff. And we can go through all the examples, Duke lacrosse, Rolling Stone,
00:09:11.820 Lena Dunham, uh, all that stuff. We could, we could go through all the examples of, uh, of false rape
00:09:19.060 accusations. But, but, but even before that, we, we, we know why people lie, right? Because we've all
00:09:25.240 told lies. So you, you know why people lie. Um, now hopefully you haven't told any lies as big as,
00:09:31.600 as this or as damaging as this, but you still told lies. And I think that small lies and big lies
00:09:40.640 generally have the same kinds of motivations behind them. So people lie. Why do people lie? Why do you
00:09:47.200 lie? Why have you told lies? Uh, well, you've lied to gain some sort of advantage. Uh, you've lied to
00:09:53.620 get attention. You've lied to maybe hurt other people that you dislike. Again, hopefully not to
00:10:00.100 this degree, but still to some degree or another. Um, and then sometimes people lie inexplicably.
00:10:08.840 They, there are times when people lie for no reason that you can even ascertain. And then it,
00:10:15.220 and then it snowballs from there. So I think any or all of these could explain Christine Ford.
00:10:21.240 You, you, you really can't know. I mean, I could, if we're left to speculate and she's the one who's
00:10:29.100 left us to speculate by throwing this out there with all the inconsistencies, not even not, there are
00:10:34.220 some things she could offer us to give a little bit of evidence, like her therapist notes. Well,
00:10:38.360 she doesn't want to give us those. So she's left us to speculate. If I had to guess or come up with
00:10:43.580 some theory, I could, I don't know, but I could see maybe hypothetically a situation where, um,
00:10:50.660 where she originally brought this up in couples therapy. There's some, there's some oddness with
00:10:57.040 the couples therapy stuff, because she said that, that, uh, she was in couples therapy because of
00:11:01.580 a remodel of the home. And specifically because she wanted a second front door, 0.92
00:11:08.140 which has to do with her fear from the sexual assault. Yet apparently the, she was in couples 0.59
00:11:16.100 therapy in 2012. The remodel of the home was in 20, 2008. So four years later, she's going to really,
00:11:23.400 I mean, four years later, you're still, you're, you're, you're, your relationship is still suffering
00:11:27.060 from the remodel and you have to go. I don't know. Um, what's the connection between another front
00:11:33.100 door and sexual assault? Well, apparently they were, uh, they were hosting interns, um, I think
00:11:39.560 from Google or something. And so they had interns and young men in the house that they were having
00:11:44.240 in the house. And so she wanted another front door so that they weren't traipsing through the house
00:11:48.400 because she was afraid of, um, the interns sexually assaulting her. And so she wanted to get them
00:11:55.100 another front door. That's the story she tells. Well, that's kind of weird though, right? Because
00:11:59.040 if you really are that paralyzed with fear that one of these guys might sexually assault you,
00:12:06.540 why are you hosting them in your home in the first place? It seems like that's,
00:12:11.160 it seems like the argument would be if you're, if your husband wanted to have the interns,
00:12:15.200 the argument would be, no, I don't want them. Not let's get a second front door. But anyway,
00:12:20.840 you could, if you needed to speculate, you could see a situation maybe where this,
00:12:26.060 where she started to kind of spin the story in couples counseling for one reason or another.
00:12:32.760 Um, and it snowballed from there. We can't see the therapist notes. I think the reason why
00:12:39.520 we can't see the therapist notes is that the story is significantly different. The story she told her
00:12:47.100 therapist is significantly different from the story she's telling us now. Um, including we're told she
00:12:53.380 didn't tell the therapist, the name of the person. I think she may very well have said to the therapist,
00:12:58.180 I don't remember who it was, something like that. Um, so she could have started spitting the yarn then
00:13:05.280 and, uh, and it kind of just snowballed from there. So there are all kinds of, of situations,
00:13:12.380 but that, that, that doesn't matter. Um, the why doesn't matter. It's the what that matters.
00:13:20.020 And it also matters that Democrats know that Ford story is not credible. Whatever they say,
00:13:27.460 they know that it's not credible. They know it as well as you and I do. Yet they played this hand
00:13:33.480 anyway. And, and I think ultimately it backfires on them because here's what's happened.
00:13:38.340 This Democrats have overplayed their hands, their hand significantly here. They have unmasked
00:13:45.740 themselves at the worst possible time because think about it. They, they, they're, they were
00:13:51.760 headed into the midterms. They were looking pretty good. They were sitting in a pretty spot. Um,
00:13:56.520 because obviously their base hates Trump hates Republicans. So they were counting on a good
00:14:00.920 turnout. Meanwhile, conservatives and, and Republicans have been fighting with, we've all been fighting
00:14:05.940 with each other for several years now. Uh, many, many conservative Republicans are feeling kind of
00:14:11.120 drained of energy, somewhat despondent, right? Fighting amongst ourselves, bickering, drained,
00:14:18.160 despondent. I mean, all these things, that's not a good recipe for voter turnout. It's a great recipe
00:14:22.760 for Democrats, not a good recipe for Republicans, but then Democrats come along at the last minute here,
00:14:28.300 they take off the mask, they reveal their fangs and they pounce like wild animals on an innocent man and
00:14:34.340 his family. And I think that's caused most conservatives to look at that and, and, and,
00:14:39.260 and to rally together, unite again in many ways and to, uh, and to refocus on the real opponent.
00:14:46.360 And there are polls and surveys that bear this out, but I don't even need the polls and surveys. I,
00:14:50.740 this is just a sense. I think if you're a public conservative or Republican, you probably have
00:14:56.160 sent this census as well. There's just this sense now of, uh, of a more cohesive unity
00:15:01.680 among conservatives than there's been in a long time. And that's, we have the Democrats to thank for
00:15:08.840 that. Because I think a lot of people have looked at this and said, wow, I mean, these people are
00:15:16.460 evil. We got to do whatever we can to keep them out of power, uh, that they would stoop this low. I
00:15:21.600 mean, sometimes it's easy to lose sight of that. Sometimes to lose sight of just how evil the
00:15:27.520 Democrats are, how dishonest, but they have helpfully reminded us of the fact and given us
00:15:35.040 such a startling illustration of it right now, right, right before the midterms. So I don't know
00:15:41.160 what's going to happen in the midterms, but I think this was a, a terrible strategy on their part.
00:15:45.280 They just don't know when to stop.
00:15:52.400 They could have, they could have thrown out these unsubstantiated allegations and just throw them
00:15:58.480 out there. And then they could rally their base a little bit around that, uh, and kind of exploit
00:16:03.300 the me too movement even more than they already have and rely, kind of rely on that to gin up more
00:16:11.320 interest among their, among their voters and, and kind of left it there. But the way that they have
00:16:16.260 not let go, and even now they won't let go, um, it's, it's backfired big time. So we'll see what
00:16:24.660 happens, but I, I'm sensing a certain unity again that, um, I haven't seen in a very long time,
00:16:32.960 which you might say is a little bit of the silver lining, but I hesitate to speak of silver linings when
00:16:39.620 you consider, uh, what's happened to Kavanaugh and his family. Um, so there's nothing that will
00:16:46.260 make that worth it. All right. Thanks for watching everybody. Thanks for listening. Godspeed.