The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1196 - Our Descent Into A Banana Republic Continues

00:00:00.100 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, Trump is indicted once again.

00:00:02.640 This is all part of the left's plan to criminalize their political opposition,

00:00:05.720 and the conspiracy goes far beyond Donald Trump.

00:00:08.000 Also, a new poll shows that high school boys are becoming more conservative.

00:00:11.660 Why is that happening? We'll discuss.

00:00:13.040 And Michigan moves to abolish the First Amendment once and for all by passing a hate speech law.

00:00:17.500 And our daily cancellation, prominent scientist Neil deGrasse Tyson claims that gender is on a spectrum.

00:00:22.180 It falls to me as the podcaster without a college degree to once again fact-check a scientist.

00:00:26.500 We'll talk about all that and much more today on the Matt Walsh Show.

00:00:30.000 We'll be right back.

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00:01:31.400 See if this story sounds familiar.

00:01:34.360 A charismatic populist runs for president.

00:01:36.400 He promises to end corruption, close tax loopholes for the rich, prioritize his own people over foreign interests.

00:01:42.560 Contrary to all expectations, this insurgent candidate performs well in the election.

00:01:46.540 That terrifies the establishment, so they pursue a series of criminal charges against him.

00:01:50.660 First, they accuse him of rape.

00:01:52.740 Then, when he's acquitted, they charge him again, this time with the crime of fomenting an insurrection.

00:01:58.200 They say he led an illegal freedom caravan to a protest in the Capitol.

00:02:02.500 Mass demonstrations break out because people recognize what's happening.

00:02:06.100 The government prosecutors, who are claiming to fight election interference, are, in fact, the ones engaging in it.

00:02:11.820 Which is what banana republics do. 1.00

00:02:14.140 They jail their opponents when they can't beat them.

00:02:16.060 Now, the situation I just described is unfolding right now in the West African nation of Senegal.

00:02:22.560 The government in that country is eager to throw an opposition leader, someone named Osomein Sonko, who I'm probably mispronouncing, in prison.

00:02:30.280 He organized a mass protest in Senegal's capital, Dakar, but it was quickly shut down.

00:02:35.180 And now the government is seeking to disqualify him from office by bombarding him with criminal charges.

00:02:39.960 Now, if you read press reports, there have been a few.

00:02:42.300 You'll find that most of the Western media that's paying attention to this story claims to be disturbed by all of this.

00:02:48.080 Quote, Senegal authorities arrest opposition frontrunner, reported The Guardian.

00:02:51.960 Human Rights Watch called the developments an assault on democracy ahead of elections.

00:02:56.760 NPR complained that, quote, in Senegal, the government is cracking down on human rights.

00:03:02.240 And they're doing that, NPR explained, by criminalizing political dissent, which NPR insists is a very bad thing to do.

00:03:09.560 Which it is a very bad thing.

00:03:10.900 But the question is, do they really believe that?

00:03:14.320 Does anyone in the media or any of these NGOs really believe that?

00:03:19.360 Well, let's see.

00:03:20.480 As you've heard by now, yesterday, the DOJ again indicted the leading political opponent of the conspicuously wealthy career politician who runs the DOJ, Joe Biden.

00:03:29.340 This is the third indictment that's been brought against Donald Trump this year, and the second that's been brought by Joe Biden's DOJ.

00:03:35.100 And yet, curiously enough, of the human rights defenders in the media, none of those reporters who wept for Senegal were concerned by this latest development.

00:03:42.740 In fact, they celebrated it.

00:03:44.680 Quote, Trump charged with four felony counts for attempt to overturn the 2020 election, wrote NPR.

00:03:48.840 You can imagine the gloating that went on MSNBC, and we'll spare you the examples, but you already know what you'll expect there.

00:03:56.500 So, Senegal can't arrest its opposition leaders, but Joe Biden can.

00:04:00.720 Why is that?

00:04:01.520 That's an important question.

00:04:04.700 In fact, it may be the only question that really matters here.

00:04:07.740 The media's justification for these indictments is that Donald Trump is just a really bad guy.

00:04:12.680 He's so evil.

00:04:13.600 He's so dangerous.

00:04:14.800 He's so orange that he must be kept out of office at all costs, even if it means the total destruction of those democratic norms, quote, unquote, that the left once pretended to care so much about.

00:04:26.220 Now, if all those claims about Trump were true, you'd think that the indictment against Donald Trump would be convincing and thorough, unimpeachable.

00:04:35.040 You'd expect that the indictment would be premised on a reasonable application of a law with airtight precedent backing it up.

00:04:41.680 But that's not what we have here.

00:04:43.980 What we have is somehow even flimsier, arguably, than that indictment out of New York, the one that accused Trump of committing multiple felonies because his accountants made a bookkeeping error seven years ago.

00:04:53.460 Essentially, the latest indictment from Joe Biden's DOJ accuses Donald Trump of lying about election fraud, which is not illegal, by the way, as the indictment itself admits.

00:05:03.100 The document goes on to say that Donald Trump didn't really believe the election was stolen because other officials told him it wasn't stolen, so therefore he must be lying.

00:05:10.660 And then the indictment suggests that Trump somehow broke the law by using various levers of government to contest the election results on the advice of his attorneys.

00:05:18.340 This legal theory, if you can call it that, criminalizes political speech.

00:05:23.120 There's no way around that.

00:05:24.940 It justifies locking up Adam Schiff and Nancy Pelosi for lying about Russian collusion for four years and pursuing investigations and impeachments based on that fraud.

00:05:35.360 It justifies imprisoning every Democratic Party lawmaker, and there have been a lot of them, who ever objected to the certification of election results.

00:05:42.580 It justifies throwing all those Democrats in jail who tried to seat alternative slates of electors both times George W. Bush took office.

00:05:50.540 It justifies imprisoning Stacey Abrams, who still pretends to be the rightful governor of Georgia. 0.97

00:05:55.520 But the really incredible thing about this indictment is that it justifies jailing Trump, even if you concede that he was right about election fraud in the 2020 election.

00:06:06.480 The premise of all the charges against Trump is that it's illegal for the president to reject the electors that are submitted to Congress under any circumstance.

00:06:14.700 So the DOJ isn't just objecting to Donald Trump's claims about the voting machines, but not just denying his argument that with COVID as a pretense, Democrats perverted the entire system of elections in this country to such a degree that Joe Biden, a senile old man who can campaign from his basement, somehow received 10 million more votes than Barack Obama.

00:06:32.300 Now, the DOJ is saying that even if Donald Trump was right about everything and the 2020 election was rigged, then he still has no right as president to do anything about it.

00:06:43.640 Which is pretty shocking, or at least it would be shocking if we weren't already so used to this level of corruption.

00:06:48.960 And that might be why in announcing the charges, the special counsel, Jack Smith, didn't talk about the specifics of his indictment at all.

00:06:55.180 Instead, he talked about all the brave officers at the Capitol on January 6th.

00:06:59.520 Even though Trump is not accused in any way of causing those officers harm or of inciting violence against them, still, that was the focus of his press conference.

00:07:07.520 Watch.

00:07:08.860 Today, an indictment was unsealed.

00:07:11.920 Charging Donald J. Trump with conspiring to defraud the United States, conspiring to disenfranchise voters, and conspiring and attempting to obstruct an official proceeding.

00:07:25.180 The indictment was issued by a grand jury of citizens here in the District of Columbia, and it sets forth the crimes charged in detail.

00:07:34.160 I encourage everyone to read it in full.

00:07:38.860 The attack on our nation's Capitol on January 6th, 2021, was an unprecedented assault on the seat of American democracy.

00:07:49.040 As described in the indictment, it was fueled by lies.

00:07:52.520 Lies by the defendant, targeted at obstructing a bedrock function of the U.S. government, the nation's process of collecting, counting, and certifying the results of the presidential election.

00:08:06.260 The men and women of law enforcement who defended the U.S. Capitol on January 6th are heroes.

00:08:15.900 They are patriots, and they are the very best of us.

00:08:19.400 They did not just defend a building or the people sheltering in it.

00:08:23.460 They put their lives on the line to defend who we are as a country and as a people.

00:08:30.160 Right, so what are we watching here?

00:08:31.480 Well, there are three things, really.

00:08:32.720 First, we have, once again, the grotesque charade of Democrats pretending to care about the well-being of police officers.

00:08:38.640 These are the same people who, as we remember, cheered as rabid mobs bashed cops over the head with bricks and set police stations on fire during the BLM riots.

00:08:49.400 So that's one thing.

00:08:50.420 For another thing, this is an awfully convenient political distraction for the government.

00:08:54.360 Just a day before Trump was indicted, a business partner of Hunter Biden testified that Joe Biden was on the phone with Hunter while his son was peddling his father's influence while he, Joe Biden, was vice president.

00:09:04.680 And the defense from the Biden team and the Democratic Party is that Joe Biden, well, he was just on the calls to talk about the weather.

00:09:11.080 He was just a proud father who wanted to, you know, check in with his son's business partners for no reason other than to just talk about the weather.

00:09:19.700 Which, as we discussed yesterday, would not absolve Joe Biden of the influence-peddling accusation, even if it were true that he only talked about the weather.

00:09:28.380 Because that's how influence-peddling works.

00:09:30.240 It doesn't matter what Joe Biden says to Hunter Biden's business associates.

00:09:33.400 The point is to just make the connection.

00:09:35.800 That's the whole point.

00:09:37.520 The major networks and newspapers barely covered that story, and they didn't need to.

00:09:41.260 Because the very next day, it was all out of the news cycle, conveniently, because of this new indictment.

00:09:46.580 We've seen this pattern play out before many times.

00:09:48.760 In fact, earlier this summer, Congress received whistleblower documents from the FBI,

00:09:53.940 alleging that the Bidens took a multimillion-dollar bribe from that Ukrainian oil company that was paying Hunter Biden.

00:09:59.760 Shortly afterwards, Jack Smith indicted Trump for storing classified documents in his home,

00:10:04.580 the same thing that Mike Pence and Joe Biden have both admitted to doing.

00:10:09.020 Then on July 26th, Hunter Biden's plea deal blew up in court after the judge noticed that no plea deal of its kind

00:10:14.820 had ever been agreed to in the history of the United States.

00:10:18.280 That was embarrassing to the DOJ and to the Bidens.

00:10:21.120 The very next day, on July 27th, Jack Smith charged Donald Trump with more crimes.

00:10:25.540 He even charged Trump's maintenance guy at Mar-a-Lago.

00:10:27.960 Now, you can choose to believe that these are all coincidences somehow.

00:10:34.260 That the political timing, just like the DOJ didn't notice it.

00:10:37.980 The fact that it just so happens to bury inconvenient stories to them, inconvenient stories to the Biden administration,

00:10:43.500 that, you know, that's all, they didn't notice that.

00:10:45.560 It's all a coincidence.

00:10:46.740 You can pretend that's the case.

00:10:49.460 But what you can't deny is that what we're seeing has implications that will long outlive Donald Trump

00:10:54.380 and his political career.

00:10:56.380 We are witnessing the criminalization of all political dissent for all Americans,

00:11:02.900 no matter how powerful or well-off they may be or may not be.

00:11:07.560 Now, consider that one of the federal statutes that the DOJ now accuses Donald Trump of violating,

00:11:13.900 18 U.S.C. 241,

00:11:15.280 is the very same law that was used to throw Douglas Mackey in prison.

00:11:20.500 Now, 18 U.S.C. 241 is the law that prohibits people from engaging in a conspiracy against the rights of Americans.

00:11:27.180 Specifically, the statute makes it illegal for, quote,

00:11:29.420 two or more persons to conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate any person

00:11:34.000 so that they cannot exercise their constitutional rights.

00:11:36.760 The point of that law, when it was originally passed in the 19th century,

00:11:39.340 was to prevent the KKK and state officials from interfering with the rights of black Americans to vote.

00:11:45.800 Now, what did Douglas Mackey do to violate 18 U.S.C. 241 all these years later?

00:11:52.100 Is he a member of the KKK?

00:11:53.480 Was he standing outside of the polls with a gun preventing black Americans from going in?

00:11:59.160 No, he posted some memes on social media that made fun of Hillary Clinton voters.

00:12:04.880 One of his memes told his followers to text a fake number to vote instead of showing up to the polls.

00:12:10.740 So it's like an obvious joke.

00:12:12.160 Like, you people are so stupid that you'll believe this and you'll text your vote in rather than actually showing up.

00:12:18.340 At least one major left-wing account run by a woman named Christina Wong created a similar meme mocking Trump supporters.

00:12:24.560 Hey, Trump supporters, she wrote, skip poll lines and text in your vote.

00:12:27.260 So it's the exact same thing.

00:12:30.460 Christina Wong was never charged for that because she has the right politics. 0.99

00:12:35.360 Douglas Mackey was charged, though.

00:12:37.600 And unlike Donald Trump, Douglas Mackey is not wealthy.

00:12:40.080 He's not famous.

00:12:42.080 He had 58,000 Twitter followers when the FBI decided to arrest him.

00:12:46.220 He's facing 10 years in prison after a scam prosecution for a meme, for a joke.

00:12:52.540 The same joke that people on the left have told.

00:12:54.860 The prosecution withheld evidence to make sure the jury convicted Mackey, including information about the key witness in the case.

00:13:02.060 In the end, they got what they wanted, which was a conviction that sent a message to every conservative in the country.

00:13:06.820 And the message is simple.

00:13:08.540 Cause enough of a problem for us and you go to prison.

00:13:11.960 Whether you're Donald Trump or a guy with 58,000 Twitter followers.

00:13:14.680 That's also why Mark Houck faced a decade in jail after Joe Biden's DOJ raided his home with a 25-member SWAT team.

00:13:22.920 We've talked about Mark Houck many times.

00:13:24.460 What was his crime?

00:13:26.620 Why did he deserve to have rifles pointed at his face in front of his kids?

00:13:31.460 Carted out of his house at 7 a.m.

00:13:33.460 Well, he pushed a worker outside of an abortion clinic who was harassing and endangering his 12-year-old son.

00:13:40.480 That's it.

00:13:41.740 No state prosecutor, no local prosecutor would take the case because there was no case.

00:13:45.960 There was nothing there.

00:13:47.960 Then many months later, Joe Biden's DOJ comes along and says, we're going to pursue that.

00:13:52.620 As though Mark Houck had personally set the abortion clinic on fire.

00:13:56.740 Meanwhile, some pro-life pregnancy centers actually are getting set on fire, are getting firebombed.

00:14:03.020 But Joe Biden's DOJ does nothing about it.

00:14:06.100 In one case last summer, the Compass Care Pregnancy Service Center in Buffalo was torched.

00:14:11.200 And the FBI responded to that blaze by seizing surveillance footage from the center and refusing to return it for six months.

00:14:19.580 So this was all happening right out in the open.

00:14:22.220 A long time before Donald Trump's third indictment yesterday, or even his first indictment.

00:14:27.440 And there are many more examples.

00:14:30.280 Republicans watched as Joe Biden purged the military of wrong think.

00:14:34.240 They did nothing as he sent grandmothers with cancer to prison for the crime of walking around the Capitol building.

00:14:41.520 They went on TV for meaningless three-minute hits as the FBI rounded up Donald Trump's aides one by one in parking lots and fast food drive-thrus.

00:14:49.460 Try asking someone from Senegal when precisely their democracy failed.

00:14:55.680 Ask them when exactly their system of representative government became a global laughingstock.

00:15:01.140 You could pose the same question to someone from, say, Venezuela or any number of other countries that have devolved into tinpot dictatorships in just a few years.

00:15:12.020 Now, the odds are you'll never get a precise answer.

00:15:15.240 There will be no singular prosecution that they'll point to.

00:15:18.220 Instead, they'll point to systemic failures like complacency, corruption, incompetence from people who are supposed to keep their system of government intact.

00:15:29.400 Where have we seen that lately?

00:15:31.440 Just a few days ago, the 81-year-old leader of the Republican Party in the Senate was incapable of finishing a press conference.

00:15:36.820 He just began staring blankly ahead for reasons that remain unexplained.

00:15:43.060 That is the state of the opposition that Joe Biden faces right now.

00:15:47.060 Joe Biden is practically catatonic.

00:15:49.660 His opposition somehow is even more useless.

00:15:53.500 He and his handlers know it.

00:15:55.600 And they're taking full advantage of the opportunity.

00:15:57.620 If all they get in return are more harshly worded letters from Republican lawmakers, then pretty soon, we're not going to have to ask Venezuelans or people from Senegal how it's possible for a democracy to fail so quickly.

00:16:10.080 Because we'll know firsthand.

00:16:14.160 Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:17:19.620 The Hill has this startling headline, startling for them anyway.

00:17:23.280 High school boys are trending conservative.

00:17:26.440 Oh no, dear God.

00:17:28.420 A popular narrative suggests young people are reading now from the article are liberal and getting more liberal.

00:17:32.660 Thus, social media buzzed when a chat surfaced in spring that seemed to suggest 12th grade boys have become overwhelmingly conservative.

00:17:39.340 As with many Reddit posts and viral tweets, the tweet was more complicated.

00:17:42.620 The truth was more complicated, but the numbers do say this.

00:17:45.420 12th grade boys are nearly twice as likely to identify as conservative versus liberal, according to a respected federal survey of American youth.

00:17:52.120 In annual surveys over the last three years, roughly one quarter of high school seniors self-identified as conservative or very conservative on the Monitoring the Future survey, a scholarly endeavor that dates to the 1970s.

00:18:04.400 Only 13% of boys identified as liberal or very liberal in those years.

00:18:08.660 The figures represent a striking shift in the political views of boys.

00:18:11.260 As recently as the late 2000s, liberal boys occasionally outnumbered conservatives.

00:18:16.480 Back in the Carter era, both boys and girls lean liberal.

00:18:20.100 Nowadays, it's girls who are drifting to the left. 1.00

00:18:22.220 The share of 12th grade girls who identified as liberal rose from 19% in 2012 to 30% in 2022.

00:18:29.260 Only 12% of girls identified as conservative in the last year's survey administered by the University of Michigan.

00:18:35.660 Young women, too, are trending liberal.

00:18:37.320 Young women ages 18 to 29 are more likely to identify as liberal now than at any time in the past two decades, according to Gallup surveys.

00:18:44.700 Young women are also almost twice as likely as young men to claim the liberal tag, a widening gender gap in political beliefs.

00:18:51.660 So that's kind of the headline.

00:18:53.860 That you've got overall young men and boys are trending conservative.

00:19:00.660 And when you narrow it down to 12th grade boys, they're twice as likely to identify as conservative versus liberal, which is a striking difference from the past, as they point out.

00:19:10.720 Now, I think there are a few things happening here.

00:19:13.800 A few reasons why teenage boys and young men are increasingly becoming conservative.

00:19:18.480 And the first is that conservatism is rebellious, okay?

00:19:23.780 It's edgy.

00:19:24.760 It's offensive in our culture.

00:19:27.660 By our culture standards, it's the rebellious, edgy, offensive thing.

00:19:31.900 And if you have that kind of renegade instinct, that desire to rebel, as many young people do, especially boys, then this is where you go.

00:19:41.080 So, as I pointed out before, if you're a kid in high school and you want to be edgy and cool, you can't do that by adopting the same position as your middle-aged math teacher.

00:19:52.080 Like, the moment that your math teacher starts waving a pride flag and talking about how the Bible is evil is the moment that it becomes extremely uncool to love the pride flag and hate the Bible.

00:20:03.380 So, this drives towards, you know, there's a drive among the youth, obviously, towards rebellion.

00:20:11.200 That's not news to anybody.

00:20:13.140 And historically, it's been harnessed by the left against the right.

00:20:16.660 And that's the reason why, if you go back, as they point out, you go back to the 60s and 70s, you're going to find that the situation is completely reversed, where young boys are much more likely to identify as liberal versus conservative.

00:20:25.760 That's because that was the rebellious thing at the time.

00:20:28.380 For a long time, you know, what we consider now to be conservative ideals were the popular mainstream ideals.

00:20:38.960 The conservative position, as we consider it now, was the dominant cultural position, which is not the case anymore.

00:20:46.700 Which means the left is in control.

00:20:48.500 It means they're the dominant cultural force, which is bad.

00:20:51.220 But the good thing is that they lose their rebel status.

00:20:54.280 That's the one good thing.

00:20:55.160 Like, even if they pretend to still have it, which they do, so you end up with, like, aging punk rockers still going out and pretending to rage against the machine by saying everything that your HR rep at work would say.

00:21:11.140 But it's all a charade.

00:21:12.620 And kids, for the most part, see right through it.

00:21:16.660 So, this is a great advantage for us, that we should be harnessing much more than we are.

00:21:22.000 And you have to harness it in a smart way, obviously.

00:21:24.140 I mean, you can't actually go up to kids and say, hey, kids, want to be edgy and cool?

00:21:29.260 Be conservative.

00:21:30.720 You can't say it as, you know, in a way as on the nose as that, because that makes it sound lame.

00:21:37.900 But that is basically the message and the truth.

00:21:40.900 Conservatism is edgy.

00:21:42.460 It's much cooler.

00:21:45.400 And partly because it's the only place where you can have a sense of humor.

00:21:48.000 And that's the other thing about teenage boys.

00:21:51.300 And I know this from having been one not that long ago.

00:21:53.880 Well, pretty long ago.

00:21:55.380 I mean, really long ago.

00:21:56.240 But still, I was one at one time.

00:21:58.440 And I can still remember that as a teenage boy, you have a very outrageous, offensive, kind of morbid, aggressive sense of humor.

00:22:09.120 Teenage boys amused themselves by insulting each other, like among friends, just insulting each other in extremely vulgar and personal ways.

00:22:18.880 And to some extent, you never grow out of that.

00:22:21.440 Even as you become a man, as men, we never quite grow out of that.

00:22:24.880 We still think it's funny to, like, make fun of each other and stuff.

00:22:27.340 But there's no room for that on the left at all.

00:22:30.900 I mean, you cannot have a man's sense of humor on the left.

00:22:34.500 You just can't.

00:22:36.360 In fact, as it turns out, you can't have a man's sense of anything on the left.

00:22:39.560 You cannot be a man on the left.

00:22:43.060 Which brings us to the second factor, which could explain why boys are increasingly becoming conservative.

00:22:48.000 Which is that the left, if you are a high school boy, the left is doing nothing but heaping scorn and contempt on you.

00:22:58.340 Telling you to be ashamed of yourself, of your masculinity, calling you toxic, lecturing you, scolding you, yelling at you.

00:23:06.740 On and on and on.

00:23:07.800 A constant, never-ending harangue.

00:23:11.300 Another difference between now and back then in the 60s and 70s.

00:23:15.500 It used to be that when you thought of the humorless scolds, what immediately comes to mind is like the church lady, right?

00:23:23.880 The conservative.

00:23:24.860 You're thinking of conservatives who are supposed to be these humorless scolds, don't have a sense of humor, they're offended by everything.

00:23:30.200 Writing angry letters because they're offended by this and that.

00:23:33.460 That is now, that's the left.

00:23:34.980 That's what the left does.

00:23:36.440 That's their gig.

00:23:37.300 And they're very excited to explain to you why everything you think and say is offensive, especially if you're a male.

00:23:47.540 So what else are going to, if you're a teenage boy, what else are you going to do?

00:23:53.780 So you've got these people over here who hate you and don't even disguise their contempt.

00:24:00.600 And meanwhile, on the other end of it, they're doing nothing but heaping praise and adulation and celebration.

00:24:08.080 For like every other group, they're constantly saying, oh, you're so special.

00:24:12.800 You're great.

00:24:13.240 You're wonderful.

00:24:13.940 You should be accepted exactly as you are.

00:24:15.740 Everything about you is perfect.

00:24:17.020 You're the most wonderful thing on the planet.

00:24:18.860 And that's their message to everyone.

00:24:21.420 But then they turn around to you and say, oh, you scumbags.

00:24:24.580 Why don't you be more like them?

00:24:27.220 Except you can't be more like them because that would be appropriation.

00:24:31.440 And I think teenage boys hear that and they respond exactly as you would expect them to.

00:24:35.880 Which means that, again, on the right, the goal here is to harness this to our advantage.

00:24:44.440 And ultimately the advantage of the culture and truth.

00:24:46.740 Because the really good thing is that in this case, it's not just that going over to the right is now rebellious and edgy and all the rest of it.

00:24:56.900 But that's also where the truth is on all these issues.

00:25:00.980 When we see these, what I find to be extremely encouraging videos of, again, high school boys, you know,

00:25:08.800 tearing down the pride flags and mocking attempts by schools to, you know, groom them into the LGBT cult. 0.84

00:25:16.740 And these videos come out, very encouraging.

00:25:22.000 But it's not just because it's politically advantageous for us.

00:25:25.700 It's because they are rejecting falsehood in favor of the truth.

00:25:31.920 And the question is, how are we going to harness that on the right?

00:25:38.740 And there hasn't been nearly enough of that.

00:25:40.240 All right, Daily Wire has this report.

00:25:44.040 A Michigan hate speech bill that has passed the State House and is now in the hands of the Senate is alarming conservatives, people of faith, and legal experts.

00:25:51.500 The bill, HB 4474, is part of a package of legislation that would replace Michigan's existing Ethnic Intimidation Act and make it a hate crime to cause someone to feel terrorized, frightened, or threatened.

00:26:06.180 Under the bill's framework, sexual orientation and gender identity or expression are included as classes protected against intimidation.

00:26:12.500 If passed, the hate speech legislation would make violators guilty of a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of $10,000.

00:26:20.180 Many conservatives have voiced concern that the bill infringes on Americans' First Amendment rights.

00:26:26.800 And, I mean, like, obviously it does.

00:26:30.020 This is obviously a horrific assault on free speech, a total, not just an assault on free speech, it's an obliteration of free speech.

00:26:37.160 It is the criminalization of speech.

00:26:40.340 It is the abolition of the First Amendment in Michigan if it passes.

00:26:44.380 So that's effectively what's happening is we are abolishing the First Amendment.

00:26:51.140 It doesn't exist in Michigan if a bill like this passes.

00:26:54.460 And if it does pass, there's no way that it doesn't ultimately get struck down by the Supreme Court as the Supreme Court is currently assembled.

00:27:03.660 But still, it shows where the left wants to take us.

00:27:07.280 And if they can flip the court back their way, these laws will be passed everywhere and affirmed by the Supreme Court, and it'll be codified into law on a federal level, and that's what's going to happen.

00:27:18.280 Because it's really simple.

00:27:19.780 If you don't have the right to say things that make other people feel bad, then you don't have free speech.

00:27:27.060 Your speech is controlled by the feelings of other people, which is to say that it's not remotely in any way, in any sense, free.

00:27:38.120 It's a basic fact of free speech that shouldn't need to be explained, which is that we don't need free speech rights to protect speech that everyone is okay with.

00:27:48.180 You don't need a First Amendment for that.

00:27:49.620 But you can go anywhere in the world and say things that the dominant culture and the people in charge agree with and like.

00:27:59.460 You can go to North Korea and do that. 0.81

00:28:01.360 You can go anywhere and do that.

00:28:04.020 Now, those things are going to be different depending on where you are, but you can go anywhere and say things that the dominant culture approves of.

00:28:11.560 The way you detect free speech rights, the way that you know that a place has free speech rights is if you can go there and say things that the dominant culture does not approve of and not face any legal persecution for it.

00:28:27.560 So the goal here is to get rid of that, and this was always inevitable.

00:28:31.780 I mean, it was inevitable that it would go this direction, and the stage was set for this in two ways, really more than two, but there are two main things here.

00:28:40.120 The first is when we decided as a culture, and I say we as a universal we.

00:28:47.480 I don't include me in that or probably you.

00:28:50.040 But when we decided as a culture that the listener, not the speaker, gets to determine the motive and meaning behind the speaker's own words.

00:29:01.760 And we see this all the time.

00:29:03.880 So many examples of somebody getting canceled and then they apologize because they said something that wasn't supposed to be offensive at all.

00:29:10.580 And somebody was offended by it, and then they apologize.

00:29:13.640 And the person who was offended, what do they always say?

00:29:16.260 They say, well, you know, it doesn't matter how you meant it.

00:29:18.560 This is how I took it.

00:29:21.080 You might have thought that this was inoffensive.

00:29:23.960 You might have meant it a certain way.

00:29:25.060 You might have meant it as a joke.

00:29:26.120 You might have meant it as an innocuous statement.

00:29:28.160 But I was offended by it.

00:29:29.920 And because I was offended by it, that means that your remarks are inherently offensive.

00:29:34.960 I get to decide, as the listener, I get to decide what you meant by that.

00:29:43.560 And it doesn't matter what you say.

00:29:46.440 Your testimony about your own motives are irrelevant.

00:29:50.140 I mean, that's been the approach in this culture for a long time.

00:29:52.580 And so that's the first piece that they needed to put in place before laws like this could be passed.

00:30:01.280 And the second happened before that.

00:30:04.660 So this is really the first, I guess.

00:30:06.480 When we accepted the very idea of hate speech and hate crimes.

00:30:13.160 I mean, you even hear conservatives going around using these terms, unironically, calling things hate speech.

00:30:23.360 The moment that happened, really all the rest of this was already basically locked into place.

00:30:28.340 It was just a matter of time.

00:30:30.740 The moment we accepted hate speech as a category, as a coherent category, the rest of this was bound to happen.

00:30:39.160 Essentially, criminalizing hate.

00:30:44.560 But here's the thing.

00:30:46.300 And this should not be a shocking statement.

00:30:49.020 Hate should not be criminalized.

00:30:51.960 Okay?

00:30:52.440 Hate is not illegal.

00:30:53.720 Or it shouldn't be.

00:30:55.200 And in a free country, it wouldn't be.

00:30:58.380 So you could accuse somebody, oh, you're being hateful.

00:31:00.280 Okay.

00:31:01.600 Because I'm allowed to be hateful.

00:31:04.280 I shouldn't even have to defend myself against the charge of being hateful.

00:31:07.760 Well, maybe I am.

00:31:10.260 Maybe I do hate.

00:31:11.140 Maybe I'm talking about something and I do hate that thing.

00:31:13.960 I'm allowed to do that.

00:31:14.620 I'm allowed to hate things.

00:31:17.380 I'm allowed to hate people.

00:31:18.940 I should be allowed to in a free country.

00:31:23.680 Hate itself should not be criminalized.

00:31:26.420 It doesn't need its own special category.

00:31:28.540 Well, we've got regular crimes and then we have crimes that have hate behind them.

00:31:31.980 Well, who cares if they have hate behind them?

00:31:33.220 The problem with criminalizing hate, which is distinct from, obviously, if you kill somebody

00:31:40.240 or you assault someone physically, that should be a crime.

00:31:44.540 And if you kill someone or assault them because you hate them, then yeah, it should be a crime.

00:31:49.480 The assault and the murder should be a crime.

00:31:51.420 But the fact that you felt hate in your heart should be basically irrelevant.

00:31:56.960 It doesn't matter what you were feeling when you did it.

00:32:00.360 When is it you did it?

00:32:04.860 And in many cases, when it comes to assault and murder and all that and the crime epidemic in our cities,

00:32:10.980 the people who are committing these crimes, do they have hate in their heart?

00:32:13.140 Do they hate the people they're doing this to?

00:32:15.180 You know, you go in and you murder a gas station attendant and you steal $17 from the cash register?

00:32:20.940 Is that a hate crime?

00:32:21.860 Do you have hate in your heart when you do it?

00:32:23.820 Probably not.

00:32:25.820 In fact, you don't feel anything towards that gas station attendant at all.

00:32:28.940 He's nothing to you.

00:32:29.680 He's indifferent.

00:32:30.160 It's a crime of indifference.

00:32:32.060 And those crimes are a lot worse in many cases.

00:32:34.640 And people like that are much more dangerous.

00:32:38.440 You know, I'd rather have a culture full of people.

00:32:41.180 I'd rather have a society full of people who have hate in their hearts than a society where everyone's just, like, indifferent to human life.

00:32:49.540 That's what you find when you go into the cities.

00:32:51.360 Go into the inner city.

00:32:52.100 You've got a whole bunch of people that are essentially, they're not hateful.

00:32:54.920 They're just indifferent.

00:32:56.400 They don't care about you.

00:32:58.500 They'll kill you for your shoes. 0.90

00:32:59.720 It just doesn't matter.

00:33:00.680 Not because they have any problem with you.

00:33:01.640 Nothing personal.

00:33:03.020 They just want to take the shoes and they don't care about you.

00:33:05.180 You're nothing.

00:33:08.080 So hate never should have factored in at all.

00:33:11.940 Hate should not be criminalized, whether it's hate speech, hate crime.

00:33:17.120 If it's a crime, then it's a crime.

00:33:20.120 Hate speech is nothing.

00:33:22.000 So what's a hate speech?

00:33:23.660 What's hate speech?

00:33:24.140 Well, you're saying something.

00:33:25.640 You're expressing hatred.

00:33:27.120 So why shouldn't you be allowed to do that?

00:33:31.200 I mean, part of the problem here is that hate is also something that exists in the human heart.

00:33:37.820 Okay?

00:33:38.480 And so in order to prosecute it, they require someone on the outside to determine whether you had hate in your heart.

00:33:45.620 How could they possibly know that?

00:33:48.100 How can they speak to what's in my heart?

00:33:49.960 How can they speak to the state of my soul?

00:33:51.640 How can they possibly know that?

00:33:53.320 The only way to know it is to ask.

00:33:54.840 That's really the only way to know.

00:33:57.280 The only person who could testify to whether or not I feel hate towards someone or something is me.

00:34:02.420 No one else could possibly testify to them.

00:34:04.720 I'm the only expert on that subject.

00:34:07.040 There is one expert on the subject of what's going on inside my mind and my heart, and that's me.

00:34:11.080 And nobody else, when you criminalize, when you have hate speech and hate crimes, that puts other people, the court system, in charge of, like, peering into your soul and determining what's going on in there.

00:34:25.360 Which they can't do.

00:34:27.040 But even if they could, once again, why is it automatically wrong to have hate?

00:34:31.880 There are things in this world that are worthy of hatred.

00:34:34.880 And the thing is, we all agree with that, don't we?

00:34:40.600 Everyone agrees that there are some things in life that you should hate.

00:34:44.480 Like, not everything is good.

00:34:45.740 There are things that are just really bad.

00:34:47.420 And how should you feel about those really bad things?

00:34:49.580 Hate.

00:34:51.320 So really, when you have hate speech and you criminalize hate speech, you're putting yourself in a position to judge what's in someone else's heart.

00:34:59.460 Putting yourself in a position to decide if someone else has hate in their heart.

00:35:02.060 And then, you're also putting yourself in a position of not only determining what's in someone's heart, but then to decide what kind of hate is good and what kind of hate is bad.

00:35:10.120 Here's the hate you're allowed to have, and here's the hate you're not allowed to have.

00:35:13.980 The whole thing is, but as I said, this, the groundwork has been laid for a long time with all of this.

00:35:23.320 Let's see.

00:35:24.140 CNBC has this report.

00:35:26.680 Barbenheimer isn't the only phenomenon at the July box office.

00:35:30.960 Over the last four weeks, Angel Studios' Sound of Freedom, an indie film that has drawn the support of former President Donald Trump and other conservatives, has captured nearly $150 million in domestic ticket sales.

00:35:41.180 The figure may seem small against Hollywood blockbuster performances from Warner Brothers' Barbie, Universal's Super Mario Bros., each of which have grossed several hundred million dollars.

00:35:50.000 But it's a solid theatrical run for a film that only costs $14 million to make.

00:35:53.560 A lot more than solid.

00:35:55.380 $150 million from a $15 million budget is, I mean, extraordinary.

00:36:02.960 It's especially impressive considering Paramount's Tom Cruise vehicle, Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Part 1, has tallied less than $140 million since its July 12th release.

00:36:13.020 And DC Comics tentpole, The Flash, barely topped $100 million domestically.

00:36:19.200 So, I saw this, I first saw this headline, and I actually thought that, I didn't quite believe it at first, that this film, that Sound of Freedom, has outgrossed Mission Impossible.

00:36:33.880 When I first saw the headline, I thought, okay, well, you must mean, like, profit-wise.

00:36:37.220 It's gained more, it's profited more.

00:36:40.920 The profit is greater than Mission Impossible, and that I would certainly believe.

00:36:48.060 I know what they're saying is just, no, when you stack up how much they've made, period.

00:36:52.520 Overall gross of the films, Sound of Freedom has made more than Mission Impossible.

00:36:57.660 And, of course, when you factor in profit, the differences are even more stark, because Mission Impossible has not turned to profit, and probably never will at this point.

00:37:05.980 I don't know what Mission Impossible's budget was, but it was more than $150 million, that we could be sure of.

00:37:14.020 Now, talk about people having a hate in their hearts.

00:37:19.360 This just shows you how much Hollywood hates conservatives and people of faith.

00:37:26.180 That you see these kinds of movies, a movie like Sound of Freedom.

00:37:31.640 Huge, incredible success.

00:37:35.980 And you can have this kind of success on an almost non-existent budget.

00:37:43.260 $15 million is nothing compared to these films when the budget's $200 million, $300 million.

00:37:50.860 $15 million, it's pocket change.

00:37:54.660 It's what you pull out of your pocket.

00:37:55.900 You can make a movie with that.

00:37:57.160 So you can make a movie on that kind of budget, reap enormous profits from it, the audience is interested, and yet Hollywood still will not make these films.

00:38:10.320 I mean, Sound of Freedom is made by Angel Studios.

00:38:12.840 It's not a Hollywood studio.

00:38:13.780 And every time there's another success with a so-called faith-based film, and you start to think, well, you know, next thing you know, Hollywood's going to start churning these movies out.

00:38:24.660 Over the next 10 years, we're going to see like 20 Bible movies.

00:38:27.940 And it just doesn't happen because they hate us.

00:38:33.480 They hate us so much that they don't even want our money.

00:38:37.940 You know, you can dangle bags of cash in front of their faces, and they won't take it.

00:38:43.820 These money-grubbing bastards who care, you would think, care for nothing but money.

00:38:48.820 They don't want our money because it would be very easy for Hollywood to attract, you know, the audience that goes to watch Sound of Freedom.

00:38:59.440 It would be very easy for Hollywood to get that audience back into the theater like once a month by just putting out films that actually appeal to that audience.

00:39:10.860 And they could start by going, go to the Bible.

00:39:17.180 You know, think about the Bible as the best-selling book of all time.

00:39:20.640 And there are many stories in the Bible that are, that, I mean, aside from the, from the incredible, the truth and the spiritual significance as people of faith,

00:39:30.420 there are also just great stories as well that have, of course, more than stood the test of time.

00:39:37.240 And it would make great films.

00:39:39.860 And you could go into the Bible and say, there's, there's, there's a hundred amazing films in there.

00:39:45.780 That, from Hollywood's perspective, could make them billions of dollars.

00:39:49.480 You know, the Bible to Hollywood could be worth billions of dollars.

00:39:53.440 And people would go watch these movies.

00:39:55.820 Not that I would necessarily, not that I would trust Hollywood to make Bible films. 0.92

00:39:59.200 And every once in a while when they attempted, it often doesn't go well.

00:40:01.880 But you would think from their perspective that this is what they would do.

00:40:05.880 Just from a cynical, profit-motivated perspective.

00:40:09.420 And they, they just won't do it.

00:40:11.200 Because they don't want our money.

00:40:14.280 They don't want to make something, they can't, they feel like they can't be proud of it.

00:40:17.540 They can't, they don't want to make something that, that someone like you or someone like me would actually enjoy.

00:40:22.800 And they will forgo that.

00:40:24.060 So my, my prediction is that even though this should be for, for Hollywood, maybe like a literal come to Jesus moment for them, where they stop and think like, wow, we're putting all this money into these franchise films.

00:40:36.540 It's supposed to be blockbusters, Indiana Jones, Mission Impossible.

00:40:39.500 I mean, these are, these are franchises that in the past have made billions of dollars for us.

00:40:45.020 And, and it's getting beat by sound of freedom with a, with a pocket change budget.

00:40:52.320 And you would think they would stop and say, well, we got to, we got to make some changes.

00:40:54.980 Okay.

00:40:55.100 We need to, so that we don't go bankrupt.

00:40:59.100 But I don't think it's going to make a difference.

00:41:01.820 They're going to continue on exactly as they have been.

00:41:05.080 Because they don't want our money.

00:41:06.820 Which is fine.

00:41:07.400 We don't have to give it to them.

00:41:08.060 I'm fine with that too.

00:41:09.540 Let's get to the comment section.

00:41:11.260 Who makes a Twitter mob fly off the handle with rage?

00:41:17.440 Who's to blame?

00:41:20.400 It's a sweet baby gang.

00:41:24.920 Jama Hama says, I remember in my old school, they had, still have a therapy room.

00:41:30.060 Kids can just sign up for therapy.

00:41:32.020 No proof of mental health problems needed.

00:41:34.080 No parent consent needed.

00:41:35.500 It also had trans flags and pride flags all around.

00:41:38.860 I feel like the education system also feeds into this issue.

00:41:41.260 Oh, very much does.

00:41:43.460 And offering actual therapy.

00:41:45.300 Now, I know that schools have guidance counselor's offices.

00:41:47.120 And that can be a problem enough in its own right.

00:41:51.600 But offering actual alleged therapy to students and not telling the parents.

00:41:57.600 Yeah, that's a big problem.

00:41:58.860 And why, as we talked about therapy a couple weeks ago, why would kids want to go and go

00:42:08.660 into the therapy room?

00:42:10.440 Well, one, you get out of class.

00:42:12.960 Like, that's something that I, even with all my thoughts about therapy and mental health

00:42:16.160 and everything, when I was in high school, I would have taken advantage of that.

00:42:18.780 If there was a therapy room where you could go and, you know, for the sake of your mental

00:42:24.440 health and just hang out, I absolutely would have done it.

00:42:30.500 So that's mainly the motivation for the kids, I assume.

00:42:33.200 But then it becomes an indoctrination center.

00:42:37.220 Like, they go in just because they don't want to go to math class.

00:42:40.220 And next thing you know, they're getting all the LGBT pride and everything else.

00:42:44.280 Another comment says, as a black woman, please understand that we all aren't out here looking

00:42:48.240 to be perpetual victims.

00:42:49.480 I hate this crap personally.

00:42:50.980 I don't need anyone's pity.

00:42:52.060 And I don't need a perpetual boo-hoo party.

00:42:55.640 Oh, of course, you're not all looking to be, it's, in any group, you know, if it's one

00:43:01.400 of the privileged groups, one of the protected groups on the left, this is what they want

00:43:06.700 everyone in the group to be like.

00:43:08.000 This is the attitude they want all of you to have, is this desire to be a victim.

00:43:13.320 But they're never going to get 100% or even close to 100% buy-in.

00:43:16.880 Hopefully they won't.

00:43:19.980 And I, you know, as we just talked about, the fact that white males are the one excluded 0.77

00:43:26.100 group, like the one, we talk about marginalized, you know, when they talk about marginalized

00:43:30.580 groups or diverse groups, what they really mean is everybody but white males.

00:43:34.100 Which, of course, in reality, makes us the only marginalized group.

00:43:38.700 When everyone gets to be marginalized but us, then actually the situation is reversed.

00:43:44.520 And that's bad.

00:43:47.260 But at the same time, I don't really, I don't want to be in that group.

00:43:50.620 I wouldn't want to be constantly told.

00:43:52.900 I would rather be told all the time.

00:43:54.640 If I had to choose, I would rather be painted as the villain than the victim.

00:44:01.360 If I had to choose between those two things, if I had to choose a cultural narrative that

00:44:08.040 I'm getting thrown into against my will, and the culture makes me the victim or the villain,

00:44:12.880 well, I guess I'd rather be the villain.

00:44:16.180 Because pity, pity is the last thing that I want.

00:44:20.540 Like, I would rather have your hatred than your pity.

00:44:23.440 It's just the last thing.

00:44:24.520 It's repulsive to me.

00:44:26.220 And it sounds like it is to you too, which is good.

00:44:28.020 That's, that's, it should be.

00:44:31.800 Desiring pity is not a healthy thing.

00:44:38.500 Go Chasing Waterfalls says having a job is literally someone paying you to not lean into

00:44:44.460 your identity and do exactly what you want to do.

00:44:47.600 You would think that most people would understand that.

00:44:50.160 The job is, you're getting paid to do, there's certain things that are laid out in your job

00:44:55.060 description and you're getting paid to do those things.

00:44:58.080 So this is specifically a time when you're not just doing whatever you want.

00:45:03.600 That's how it used to be anyway.

00:45:06.800 Lorraine says, having mental health issues is just today's version of another identity accessory. 1.00

00:45:11.480 My cousin was diagnosed with bipolar disorder at the age of 17.

00:45:14.460 She wanted to go to college, so she took whatever medication they gave her.

00:45:17.440 She went to university out of state to avoid the stigma.

00:45:21.380 She told no one.

00:45:22.280 Every single day she took her medicine.

00:45:24.460 She learned behavior modification and coping skills and overcame the family curse.

00:45:29.420 She still has a disorder, but she is not bipolar.

00:45:33.540 Mental health issues are simply a gateway to America's new favorite drug, victimhood. 0.85

00:45:38.920 You're exactly right about that.

00:45:40.900 And this is the healthy attitude to have.

00:45:43.640 If you are diagnosed with some sort of mental illness, I know we've got this intense focus

00:45:51.080 these days on de-stigmatizing.

00:45:53.340 We want to make sure we don't stigmatize mental illness.

00:45:56.660 But now we've just ended up on the other extreme where instead of stigmatizing it, it's now fashionable.

00:46:02.940 It is, as you say, an accessory.

00:46:04.560 People are proud of it.

00:46:05.580 And this is another one where if I have to choose between the two, where mental illness

00:46:11.120 is stigmatized or essentially fetishized, I think the stigma is a lot better.

00:46:17.100 That's a healthier society.

00:46:22.240 Like, if we have to choose between it's really uncool to have a mental illness or it's really

00:46:25.720 cool to have a mental illness, I think neither is probably the right approach. 0.76

00:46:30.860 But if it has to be one or the other, as a society, then uncool is better than making

00:46:36.020 mental illness cool, which is what it's become.

00:46:38.780 And it's why people talk about it so openly.

00:46:42.760 Now, if you're diagnosed with a mental illness, should you be ashamed of it?

00:46:48.380 Should you hate yourself because of it?

00:46:51.260 No.

00:46:52.600 But should you be proud of it?

00:46:54.640 Should you go around telling everybody all the time?

00:46:58.580 Definitely not.

00:46:59.300 And it would be better and healthier to be ashamed of it than to be proud of it.

00:47:06.740 And Diane says, I want to thank you, Matt.

00:47:08.440 I went off my anxiety meds.

00:47:09.780 Now I actually enjoy a tear or two when appropriate.

00:47:12.420 I feel human again.

00:47:13.480 Also, I laugh and chuckle for silly reasons.

00:47:15.200 Again, all this was robbed from me when on medication.

00:47:18.380 Well, I'm happy to hear that you've unshackled yourself and freed yourself, and that makes

00:47:22.020 me feel good.

00:47:22.500 So there is some good that comes out of babbling on a podcast, I suppose.

00:47:26.800 You know, the left believes that good intentions absolve them of bad behavior.

00:47:31.120 This type of thinking is incredibly hypocritical.

00:47:33.360 But being a good person requires more effort than just virtue signaling.

00:47:36.980 We know that for sure.

00:47:38.020 You have to be self-aware, for starters.

00:47:39.760 But there are more attributes you need to cultivate, and many of them you probably haven't even thought

00:47:43.680 about.

00:47:44.360 That's why you should watch the final episode of PragerU's Master's Program, streaming only on

00:47:49.200 Daily Wire Plus.

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00:48:20.580 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:48:25.840 For our daily cancellation today, I find myself in the position of having to correct a scientist

00:48:30.260 again.

00:48:31.440 This happens rather frequently these days, where I, as a community college dropout, must educate

00:48:36.180 a highly educated and credentialed scientist.

00:48:39.020 Now, if we lived in a sane world where everyone accepted basic facts about reality,

00:48:43.400 and scientists concerned themselves with doing actual science, then I wouldn't be in a position

00:48:48.260 to issue these corrections.

00:48:49.500 In fact, I wouldn't have a show or platform at all, probably.

00:48:52.840 I would have no public profile.

00:48:54.340 Instead, I'd be working at a tackle shop somewhere, and everyone, myself included, would be happier.

00:48:58.960 But that is not the world we live in.

00:49:01.780 And so I must put my fact-checker hat back on and turn my attention to Neil deGrasse Tyson.

00:49:07.160 The astrophysicist and so-called science communicator was on Stephen A. Smith's podcast recently

00:49:12.340 when the conversation, for whatever reason, turned to gender.

00:49:15.520 That's when the man who's made a career by explaining scientific concepts to mass audiences

00:49:19.620 decided to abandon that mission entirely and attempt to confuse the audience instead.

00:49:24.500 I'm going to show you what he said, and we'll play the whole clip, and then we'll go back

00:49:28.340 and respond to it piece by piece.

00:49:29.700 But here's the whole thing first.

00:49:31.200 Watch.

00:49:31.380 My point is, apparently, the XXXY chromosomes are insufficient, because when we wake up in

00:49:42.040 the morning, we exaggerate whatever feature we want to portray the gender of our choice.

00:49:52.100 Either the one you're assigned, the one you choose to be, whatever it is.

00:49:58.060 And so now, just to tie a bow on this, I say to you, somewhere I read, somewhere, I think

00:50:07.820 I read that the United States was a land where we have the pursuit of happiness.

00:50:14.160 Yes.

00:50:14.680 Suppose no matter my chromosomes, today I feel 80% female, 20% male.

00:50:20.820 I'm going to put on makeup.

00:50:22.520 I'm going to do that.

00:50:23.380 Tomorrow, I might feel 80% male.

00:50:25.640 I'll remove the makeup, and I'll wear a muscle shirt.

00:50:29.620 Why do you care?

00:50:31.580 Yeah.

00:50:32.540 What business is it of yours to require that I fulfill your inability to think of gender

00:50:43.200 on a spectrum?

00:50:45.560 My favorite thing in the video, probably, is Stephen A. Smith in the background, going,

00:50:49.600 hmm, yeah, amen, wow, hmm, yeah, while this moron is just babbling nonsensically.

00:50:57.440 And there it is, the entire pile of nonsense, the whole flaming garbage heap of stupidity.

00:51:02.540 It's important that we go back and break this down.

00:51:05.120 I want you to see the whole thing first.

00:51:07.180 But we have to break it down, because Neil here is, however erroneously, trusted as a scientific

00:51:13.220 authority by millions of people.

00:51:14.980 It's extremely damaging to have someone like him endorsing gender ideology pseudoscience.

00:51:20.380 So let's go back and sort through this bit by bit, starting at the beginning.

00:51:24.980 My point is, apparently, the XXXY chromosomes are insufficient.

00:51:33.060 No, Neil, that's incorrect.

00:51:36.540 Chromosomes are quite sufficient and reliable in differentiating male from female.

00:51:40.220 In fact, if we just put chromosomes XX or XY on the bathroom door, that would clear up 0.98

00:51:44.800 a lot of confusion.

00:51:45.440 I'm not in favor of actually doing that, simply because I don't think we should give up on

00:51:49.780 using the words man and woman for the sake of gender ideologues like yourself.

00:51:53.240 But the point is that chromosomes are, indeed, sufficient.

00:51:58.260 There's more that we could say about sex.

00:52:00.140 They aren't the only difference or defining feature.

00:52:02.260 Yet, that only goes to show just how different the two sexes are and how impossible it is to 1.00

00:52:07.720 travel from one category to the other.

00:52:10.640 This is all somewhat of a moot point, because chromosomes are insufficient isn't really the position

00:52:14.820 you're attempting to defend, Neil.

00:52:17.360 You don't believe that they're insufficient.

00:52:19.080 You believe, or are pretending to believe, that they are irrelevant.

00:52:23.020 Everything else you say from here on out is premised on the assumption that chromosomes

00:52:26.220 are complete non-factors, totally irrelevant in determining whether someone's a man or a woman.

00:52:32.680 That's the actual position you have staked out for yourself, just so you know.

00:52:36.760 Because when we wake up in the morning, we exaggerate whatever feature we want,

00:52:44.820 to portray the gender of our choice.

00:52:50.200 I have literally never done this in my life.

00:52:52.640 I have never in my life stood in front of my closet and said to myself,

00:52:55.540 hmm, what gender do I want to portray today?

00:52:59.480 I don't think you've ever done that either, Neil.

00:53:01.820 You didn't pick the shirt you're wearing in this video because you wanted to exaggerate

00:53:05.220 any feature or portray yourself as a man.

00:53:07.940 You picked it because you have horrible taste.

00:53:10.300 And I'm not judging you.

00:53:11.420 This is why I play it safe and stick with flannels.

00:53:13.520 And I wear the flannels because I like them, because they don't get wrinkled as easily,

00:53:16.400 so I don't have to iron them.

00:53:17.340 But one thing I've never done in my entire life is pick out a shirt because I'm trying

00:53:21.060 to portray myself as a man, much less am I trying to exaggerate.

00:53:24.780 I simply am a man.

00:53:27.200 You're painting a picture that isn't grounded in reality.

00:53:29.620 It's not even the reality of your own life.

00:53:32.380 You've never thought of yourself as portraying a man.

00:53:35.400 You've never until now believed that gender is a choice.

00:53:37.880 And I know that because you've been on TV talking about science for decades, and you

00:53:41.780 never once mentioned this incredibly earth-shattering theory that males and females don't exist,

00:53:46.380 and it's all a choice that we make.

00:53:48.260 You never brought this up before.

00:53:50.580 And that's because you don't believe it.

00:53:53.060 Didn't believe it then.

00:53:54.180 I very much doubt that you believe it now.

00:53:56.620 You have adopted this position because it's fashionable, and you're afraid that you'll

00:54:00.140 get in trouble if you don't.

00:54:01.920 You coward.

00:54:02.440 You coward.

00:54:04.020 Either the one you're assigned, the one you choose to be, whatever it is.

00:54:08.280 And so now, here, so now just to tie a bow on this.

00:54:13.140 Now, before you tie a bow on it, what do you mean assign?

00:54:17.520 Neil, who is assigning sex?

00:54:19.380 Who has this power?

00:54:20.460 Do doctors assign male or female, or do they observe it as a physical reality?

00:54:23.980 And if you tell me that it's not a physical reality, then does that apply to all biological

00:54:27.920 organisms?

00:54:28.400 Is it legitimate to talk about female dogs and male dogs, female cats and male cats,

00:54:32.700 female birds and male birds? 0.91

00:54:34.140 If you go out and adopt a dog from a shelter and you bring it home, do you get to assign

00:54:38.340 the dog sex to it? 0.62

00:54:40.020 Is that how it works?

00:54:41.900 You're suggesting that human beings are born as biological blank slates, and sex is decided

00:54:47.440 by an outside force arbitrarily.

00:54:49.400 My question is whether it works like that anywhere else in the known universe or for any other organism.

00:54:55.040 Are we magical?

00:54:55.780 Do we exist in some kind of special bubble where the normal male-female distinctions

00:54:59.960 don't apply?

00:55:01.620 Tell us more about this, Neil.

00:55:03.360 It's a fascinating theory.

00:55:05.100 Also completely insane.

00:55:07.620 I say to you, somewhere I read, somewhere, I think I read that the United States was a

00:55:15.800 land where we have the pursuit of happiness.

00:55:19.960 What?

00:55:21.120 What does that have to do with anything?

00:55:22.440 The pursuit of happiness is a philosophical idea, a moral claim.

00:55:26.340 It's not a scientific concept.

00:55:28.320 You should know this, Neil, as an alleged scientist.

00:55:31.240 Science isn't concerned with anyone's happiness.

00:55:33.640 Science is concerned only with what is and what isn't.

00:55:35.980 Science is supposed to be a process for understanding the physical world.

00:55:40.120 Whether anyone is happy or unhappy with the realities of the physical world is irrelevant.

00:55:43.700 The sun has a diameter of about 865,000 miles.

00:55:49.060 Now, I can make that statement without checking to make sure that everybody is happy with it.

00:55:53.500 It doesn't matter if your neighbor down the street has some weird fixation on pretending

00:55:56.840 that the sun is smaller than it really is.

00:55:58.780 It might make him happy to think of the sun as having the diameter of a basketball.

00:56:02.580 He might prefer to see it that way.

00:56:05.120 But the sun is as big as the sun is.

00:56:07.860 And that's all.

00:56:09.200 Happiness has nothing to do with it.

00:56:11.220 And the same goes for sex differences.

00:56:13.780 A man is what a man is.

00:56:15.120 A woman is what a woman is. 1.00

00:56:16.800 And from a scientific perspective, it doesn't matter whether anyone's happy about it or sad about it.

00:56:23.060 By the way, this is the speech that you're supposed to be giving, Neil, as the scientist.

00:56:28.560 Suppose no matter my chromosomes, today I feel 80% female, 20% male.

00:56:34.400 I'm going to put on makeup.

00:56:36.120 I'm going to do that.

00:56:37.060 Tomorrow I might feel 80% male.

00:56:39.020 I'll remove the makeup and I'll wear a muscle shirt.

00:56:43.260 What?

00:56:44.180 What does that mean?

00:56:46.080 80% male?

00:56:47.660 What does it mean to feel 80% male?

00:56:50.540 How can you feel 80% of what you are?

00:56:53.280 Explain those feelings.

00:56:54.500 Explain how you can feel only partially yourself and then even break it down into exact percentages.

00:57:00.600 And how can a man feel 20% female? 0.73

00:57:03.040 If you aren't a female and have never been a female, then how do you know that your feelings

00:57:06.560 are a female's feelings? 0.99

00:57:07.580 Even if you do feel like a female or 80% of one or 20% of one or 17.5% of one, that still 0.72

00:57:12.680 wouldn't mean anything scientifically.

00:57:13.880 You still are what you are, which is a male. 0.85

00:57:15.420 But my question is, how a man could ever identify his own feelings as being a woman's feelings 0.57

00:57:19.620 given that he isn't a woman?

00:57:21.200 By definition, don't we have to say that any feelings a man has are a man's feelings?

00:57:25.800 Let's go back to some basic scientific concepts, Neil.

00:57:28.040 Where do feelings come from?

00:57:29.580 Do they come from magical feelings fairies? 0.99

00:57:32.060 Or do they come from your brain?

00:57:35.040 And where is a man's brain located?

00:57:37.020 In his head.

00:57:38.100 So any feeling that a man has is coming from his man brain inside his man head, which means 0.78

00:57:43.060 that all of his feelings, 100% of them all the time, are a man's feelings.

00:57:48.800 He cannot have the feelings of a woman. 0.98

00:57:50.440 And if he thinks he feels like a woman, he's confused.

00:57:54.120 If he declares that he's 20% woman or having 20% of a woman's feelings, he is confused and

00:57:59.660 also incoherent.

00:58:01.220 Just like you.

00:58:03.060 Why do you care?

00:58:04.960 Yeah.

00:58:05.940 What business is it of yours to require that I fulfill your inability to think of gender

00:58:16.600 on a spectrum?

00:58:18.640 Why do I care?

00:58:19.400 Well, I care because the truth matters.

00:58:20.740 But also, this again is scientifically irrelevant.

00:58:23.900 Going back to an example from astronomy.

00:58:25.700 If I declare that there are only 10 stars in the Milky Way galaxy, you would probably correct

00:58:31.160 me and point out that there are, in fact, many billions of stars.

00:58:34.580 It wouldn't make any sense for me to shoot back, why do you care, huh?

00:58:37.680 Why do you care so much?

00:58:39.100 Let me have my pursuit of happiness.

00:58:41.880 Whether you should or shouldn't care about the fact that I'm deeply confused about some

00:58:45.300 basic cosmological realities is totally irrelevant to the question of whether there are

00:58:49.180 only 10 stars in the Milky Way galaxy or not.

00:58:52.600 I'm simply wrong about that, no matter if you should care or not.

00:58:56.700 And for the record, you should care.

00:58:58.100 You should care about the truth, about all truth.

00:59:00.660 And you should guide people away from falsehood wherever you can.

00:59:04.780 Except in this case, when it comes to gender, you're guiding people into falsehoods.

00:59:08.140 And I care about that because it's evil.

00:59:11.500 Now, you're right about one thing, Neil.

00:59:14.620 I do have an inability to think of gender on a spectrum, just as I have an inability to

00:59:19.540 think of the number blue or the color 12.

00:59:22.020 I cannot think of incoherent nonsense.

00:59:24.660 There's nothing to think about.

00:59:25.620 Speaking of colors, that's something that does exist on a spectrum, okay?

00:59:30.160 There is a color spectrum.

00:59:31.640 And you can follow the color spectrum and see as blue becomes green and green becomes

00:59:35.860 yellow and yellow becomes orange and orange becomes red.

00:59:38.580 Like any true spectrum, there are many stages along the way.

00:59:42.300 And it can sometimes be difficult to pinpoint exactly where one stage begins and the other

00:59:47.020 ends.

00:59:47.680 They all bleed into each other.

00:59:49.300 So I ask you, Neil, what are the many other varieties, the other colors besides male and

00:59:56.840 female? 0.98

00:59:58.300 To me, it seems like we have a binary system, not a spectrum, that has only two distinct

01:00:03.680 and definable categories that are extremely easy to differentiate.

01:00:07.020 You claim there are many other categories that all bleed into each other, making it difficult

01:00:10.380 to tell one from the other.

01:00:11.300 So what are those other categories?

01:00:13.580 What is the third sex, the fourth sex, the fifth sex? 0.96

01:00:16.460 There must be many more, just like there are many colors.

01:00:18.600 In order to make a spectrum.

01:00:20.480 Is this where you're going to tell me about intersex?

01:00:22.780 I hope not, because that would be totally irrelevant to your argument.

01:00:26.220 You were suggesting that a biological male with XY chromosomes could exist somewhere else

01:00:31.720 on this spectrum if he feels 80% female, whatever that means, and puts on makeup.

01:00:36.900 Trying to defend the spectrum by throwing intersex into it would be a cheat, but it's the only 1.00

01:00:40.980 move you have left, so I'll assume that's probably where you go with it.

01:00:43.360 The problem is that intersex people don't prove a spectrum because intersex is not a third

01:00:47.480 sex.

01:00:47.820 These are tiny minorities of individuals who suffer from a genetic defect that, in some

01:00:52.580 cases, makes it slightly more difficult to determine their sex on the surface at first

01:00:56.460 glance.

01:00:57.400 That doesn't mean that they don't have a sex.

01:01:00.060 They still are on one side of the binary or the other.

01:01:02.860 They have a deformity.

01:01:04.100 Deformities are not a third sex.

01:01:06.320 Much less do they provide evidence of a sex spectrum.

01:01:10.220 So where is the spectrum, Neil?

01:01:11.700 Who is the blue, the green, the orange, the yellow?

01:01:13.540 So tell us more.

01:01:16.120 In fact, I invite you to come on this show and educate my audience on this subject.

01:01:19.220 As I said, I'm just a community college dropout.

01:01:21.400 I have not a single college credit to my name.

01:01:24.760 I have not formally studied any of this.

01:01:28.060 And yet here I am with this large audience spreading the hateful idea that men and women

01:01:31.700 exist.

01:01:32.620 I think you should leap at the chance to talk to me face-to-face and expose all of my bigoted

01:01:37.260 and ignorant lies. 0.87

01:01:38.120 And it'd be very easy for you to do, wouldn't it?

01:01:41.560 After all, what do I know?

01:01:42.760 I'm just a guy.

01:01:44.100 You're the scientist.

01:01:45.840 So let's talk about it.

01:01:47.820 Until then, as is the custom for this segment, you are today canceled.

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The Matt Walsh Show - August 02, 2023

Ep. 1196 - Our Descent Into A Banana Republic Continues

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