The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1203 - Police Arrest An Autistic Teenager For 'Homophobia'

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, an autistic girl in the UK was dragged out of her home and arrested for making an allegedly homophobic comment.

00:00:06.560 Freedom of speech doesn't exist across most of the Western world, and our country is headed in the same direction.

00:00:11.460 Also, the new CEO of Twitter explains what their new content moderation policies are, and I have concerns about them.

00:00:17.560 I'll explain. Suicide reaches an all-time high, and nobody seems interested in talking about what's really driving the problem, but we will today.

00:00:24.360 And a blue-collar folk singer who lives out in the woods in Virginia has gone massively viral with his new song.

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00:01:33.400 There's not a lot of humor to be found in wokeism or safetyism or whatever you want to call modern left-wing ideology,

00:01:39.300 but since it's Friday, it's worth acknowledging something that everyone knows deep down,

00:01:42.820 which is that there are a few things about it that are, if we're being honest, pretty funny.

00:01:47.400 And here's one of them.

00:01:48.700 Most jurisdictions in this country used to consider it a serious offense to lie and call somebody gay.

00:01:54.180 You know, if somebody was straight and you started spreading rumors that they're secretly gay,

00:01:57.680 then until very recently, New York courts would punish you for that without a second thought.

00:02:02.060 They'd call it defamation per se.

00:02:04.240 You're making up lies about somebody.

00:02:05.620 But in 2021, all that changed. 0.78

00:02:08.140 The New York appeals court ruled that actually, you can call people gay all you want,

00:02:12.360 and it's not necessarily defamatory.

00:02:14.160 Why is that?

00:02:14.700 Well, because according to New York court judges, if you lie and call somebody gay,

00:02:18.720 if anything, you're probably improving the reputation in the community rather than harming it.

00:02:23.200 That's because being gay has become a status symbol, at least in places like Manhattan.

00:02:27.320 So suggesting that somebody is secretly gay, it's like calling someone secretly a millionaire.

00:02:32.740 It's a compliment, whether it's true or not.

00:02:36.080 It's kind of amusing when you think about it.

00:02:37.840 New York is now so woke that gay slurs, at least in some cases, are now acceptable.

00:02:43.380 In that respect, strangely enough, New York is quite different from, say, the United Kingdom,

00:02:48.120 another hotbed of leftism.

00:02:49.960 Over there, they don't take kindly to unfounded accusations of homosexuality.

00:02:54.620 We know that because this week, a team of police officers in Leeds

00:02:58.340 raided the home of a 16-year-old autistic girl suffering from scoliosis.

00:03:02.180 What was the girl's crime? 1.00

00:03:03.380 Well, she said that one of the officers that was on this team of people arresting her

00:03:08.540 looked like her lesbian relative. 1.00

00:03:11.360 That's all this girl did. 1.00

00:03:13.020 She didn't even imply that it was bad to be a lesbian in any way. 0.87

00:03:16.680 She just said that this woman, this cop, looked like a lesbian. 1.00

00:03:20.560 And for that, cops dragged her away.

00:03:22.340 Here's what that looked like.

00:03:23.760 She's made a comment in her own house.

00:03:34.980 She hasn't said anything to you.

00:03:37.220 It doesn't matter. 0.92

00:03:37.880 She's never f***ing was on. 0.82

00:03:38.800 She's getting arrested. 0.99

00:03:39.620 She's not going to have her own body up as well. 0.63

00:03:41.700 She's not going to have her own body up as well. 0.63

00:03:43.620 I've got Eunice coming. 0.99

00:03:44.420 Don't worry.

00:03:44.820 She hasn't done anything.

00:03:46.100 She's autistic. 0.99

00:03:47.240 I don't care. 0.97

00:03:47.860 She's autistic. 0.99

00:03:48.660 I don't care.

00:03:49.260 I'm telling you, I've got Eunice coming. 1.00

00:03:50.800 She's going to be arrested tonight. 0.97

00:03:52.160 Wait till the police officers coming on.

00:03:53.860 I can't blame what happened.

00:03:55.640 That's why we've got her on the first place.

00:03:58.920 Calm down.

00:04:00.540 She's autistic. 0.99

00:04:01.340 Can you share it at her, please?

00:04:02.580 She's got autism.

00:04:03.460 Can you just stand there?

00:04:04.420 She's in her cupboard.

00:04:05.580 She can't go anywhere.

00:04:07.000 She can't go anywhere.

00:04:08.560 Stand there, dear.

00:04:11.380 They're going to remove her for what? 0.69

00:04:12.900 Good job.

00:04:13.580 Good job.

00:04:13.780 Good job.

00:04:14.080 Good job.

00:04:14.300 You think she said the word lesbian? 1.00

00:04:16.000 Her nana is a lesbian. 0.73

00:04:17.380 She's married to a woman. 0.61

00:04:18.280 She's not homophobic. Look what you clenched in your face. Go away from my teenage daughter. 1.00

00:04:22.800 What is up with you? There is something wrong with you, mate. 0.68

00:04:26.020 She didn't aim it at the police officer.

00:04:29.740 This is what the British Empire has become. They used to rule the world.

00:04:34.860 Now they scramble half the police department in response to a teenager who says, 0.99

00:04:38.700 hey, you look like my lesbian nana. Now they're arresting a girl. Police are arresting a girl 1.00

00:04:44.600 because that girl hurt the feelings of one of those police officers. 1.00

00:04:49.280 It's quite a fall from grace, especially given that the police officer in question,

00:04:52.540 if we're being honest, could definitely pass as a lesbian. Whether she's trying to look that way or 1.00

00:04:58.140 not, it is a convincing display, let's just say. And at least in civilized progressive utopias like

00:05:05.180 New York, they celebrate that kind of thing. You go up to a cop and say, you look like a lesbian. 1.00

00:05:11.060 The cop will say, well, thank you so much. The UK obviously hasn't thought this all the way through 0.93

00:05:16.500 though, because by arresting autistic kids who say that women look like lesbians,

00:05:21.320 especially when they actually do look like lesbians, they're setting the message that 1.00

00:05:25.300 looking like a lesbian is a bad thing. It's a horrendous insult. But that's the opposite of 1.00

00:05:30.280 what the UK intends to do here. Really, they're trying to elevate LGBT people to a special sacred

00:05:36.100 status and protect their feelings with the force of law, even if it means dragging a teenage girl to

00:05:41.140 jail, kicking and screaming. But the truth is the United States isn't far from becoming the UK where

00:05:46.820 children are sent to prison for offending the government. What happened to that girl in the

00:05:51.240 UK is quickly becoming a hallmark of so-called Western democracies. Recently in Canada, for example,

00:05:56.120 a pastor was arrested for the crime of protesting drag queens who were trying to indoctrinate children.

00:06:02.060 I want you to watch this news report carefully because it's one of the most incredible

00:06:04.900 clips you'll ever see. Watch. They should feel safe. There should never be an issue with safety.

00:06:12.380 A pastor who tried to stop a drug reading session for kids at the Seton Library last week

00:06:17.720 has been charged by Calgary police. Parents now questioning if these events are safe enough to

00:06:23.700 attend with their kids. Police were called when protesters interrupted the library's reading with

00:06:29.120 royalty event that was being presented by drug personalities to kids when several protesters

00:06:35.100 entered the room shouting homophobic words at the children and their parents.

00:06:40.160 36-year-old pastor Derek Scott Reimer was arrested and charged with hate-motivated crime for causing a

00:06:47.380 disturbance and one count of mischief. In addition, City of Calgary peace officers have charged Reimer

00:06:54.220 with six counts of harassment under the public behavior by law. Police say the disturbance scared

00:07:00.880 the children who were at the reading sessions. Now, parents wonder if these events are still safe

00:07:06.560 to bring their families. Yes, there should never be an issue with safety, says the woman. Police are

00:07:11.680 questioning if the events are safe, says the reporter. Meanwhile, they show footage of the mob throwing

00:07:17.700 the pastor to the ground. And the message is pretty clear. By safety, they mean you don't get to

00:07:23.880 question their behavior or their viewpoints. You don't get to object when they sexualize children,

00:07:30.380 but because they want to sexualize children safely, and you're making it unsafe. And if you do,

00:07:35.900 you'll get attacked and thrown in jail. That's what they mean when they say safety. Safety no longer

00:07:40.720 means safety in the traditional sense. For a long time now, it's meant something closer to emotional

00:07:45.540 comfort. Like, that's what they mean when they say safety. To be safe is to feel good. It is to have

00:07:51.420 nice feelings. And anyone who causes you to have not nice feelings and to feel not good

00:07:57.320 is compromising your safety. This has been true in Canada for a while. A couple years ago,

00:08:02.900 a man who was down on his luck went on a rant at the office of his local member of parliament,

00:08:07.880 who was a woman named Catherine McKenna. And here's what he said. Watch.

00:08:12.160 Can you help me? She says she's spending $5 billion, $10 billion a year on infrastructure.

00:08:17.620 The PBO office, Eve Giroux, says she's only spending $5 billion a year. What's up with that?

00:08:23.400 I don't go to work every day and bust my **** for this **** to steal our **** money. You're all 0.99

00:08:28.400 scumbags. You're all **** pieces of trash. You **** scumbags. You're all kids' **** pieces of trash, 1.00

00:08:35.180 just like Justin Trudeau. Raping kids. Wee charity. Sorry, kids in Africa. This money isn't for you. This money's for 1.00

00:08:41.820 Justin Trudeau and his family. They need it a lot more than you. They need a bigger yacht. They

00:08:46.400 need a bigger watch. They need five watches that are 20 grand. The **** scumbag pieces of ****.

00:08:52.280 I hope you all burn in **** hell. You're all going to get what you deserve, you **** traitors. 1.00

00:09:01.800 **** scumbag pieces of ****. All right, so he yells a few harsh words, 1.00

00:09:07.360 including a few that were bleeped out. Makes some valid points as well, we should admit.

00:09:12.480 But he never made any violent threats. And for that, Catherine McKenna called for a hate crime

00:09:17.620 investigation, and authorities opened one. You see, in Canada, no one's allowed to say mean

00:09:22.500 things to politicians. You can call conservatives, white supremacists all you want, but don't you

00:09:27.080 dare attack the people in power. In a free country, which Canada, of course, isn't, you know, cussing out

00:09:33.240 politicians would be considered a virtuous act, if not a national pastime. A way to keep our leaders

00:09:40.520 humble and on their toes is a good thing. But in Canada, it's a potential hate crime.

00:09:46.600 Now, we'd like to think that these attacks on freedom of speech couldn't happen here. But the

00:09:49.680 truth is, they're already happening here. They're just not getting a lot of coverage.

00:09:53.620 Recently, in Watertown, Wisconsin, police arrested a young Christian man for simply reading the Bible

00:09:59.080 on the sidewalk in the vicinity of a public drag event. But that was all he was doing.

00:10:05.920 Standing on the sidewalk, reading the Bible, and watch what happens to him.

00:10:10.920 ...serve one another. For all the law is fulfilled in one word, even in this, you shall love your

00:10:17.180 neighbor as yourself. But if you bite and devour one another, beware lest you be consumed by one

00:10:25.520 another. Hey, hey, what are you doing? What are you doing? What are you doing? What is the problem?

00:10:30.480 I don't have a location. What are you doing? What are you doing? You didn't give him any warning.

00:10:35.860 You just grab the money. No, this is the same one that we had here before. Yeah, that was in there.

00:10:39.220 It was not out here. What are the rules? What are you doing? You didn't do it.

00:10:41.780 Let it go. You guys have been warning. They said we can have, because they said we can speak

00:10:45.920 out here on the sidewalk freely. You can speak, but there's no way to fight. Nobody told us that.

00:10:49.780 What are you doing? Nobody told me that. That's what I'm saying.

00:10:51.920 How come there's no amplification? You guys are acting like thugs, man. They're like straight up 0.99

00:10:58.760 thugs. Hey, you're taking away my hand. He has every right to be out here engaging in speech. 0.98

00:11:05.760 He has every right to be out here engaging in speech.

00:11:09.320 He has every right to be out here engaging in speech. The guy holding the camera says,

00:11:12.340 and he's right, but we don't live in a country that cares about that sort of thing anymore.

00:11:16.920 Marcus Traders, the man who was arrested for reading the Bible there,

00:11:19.640 later spoke to the city council about what happened, and I want you to listen to what he said.

00:11:25.480 Intolerance is an interesting word. Tolerance, intolerance, hatred, love, bigotry, things like

00:11:31.180 that, because really every culture has something that it's intolerant towards and something that

00:11:36.240 it's tolerance of. I mean, there are things like murder and rape and, you know, stealing and just

00:11:43.000 crimes that we are intolerant towards as a society. And so every society has something that's

00:11:48.060 intolerant towards. The question is just, what is our object of intolerance and what is our object

00:11:52.520 of tolerance? When I showed up Saturday, all I did was read from scripture on the sidewalk. I read from

00:11:59.780 the Bible, Galatians. And by the way, I wasn't reading Romans 1. I wasn't reading any passage that

00:12:04.920 spoke against homosexuality or anything like that. I was reading a passage from the Bible about love,

00:12:10.340 and I was arrested. No reason, not given any warning, not told anything about my amplification

00:12:16.060 needed to be turning down. I was arrested and taken into custody simply for reading the Bible

00:12:21.800 on the sidewalk. One thing to keep in mind there when you watch that is, I don't know if the police

00:12:26.720 will try to claim that, well, he's disturbing, you're using the megaphone. You know, trans activists, 0.89

00:12:33.060 you flip this around and no one's getting arrested, obviously. You know, I've had trans activists many

00:12:40.000 times show up to my events and they can have bullhorns. They can have sirens. You know, they show

00:12:44.880 up with bullhorns, air horns, sirens that are going off the whole time to drown you out.

00:12:52.700 Cops will not step in. They will not say a damn word. One guy reading a Bible gets arrested 0.98

00:12:59.760 on the other hand. Now, anyone watching that man knows that we just saw there. He knows that he's

00:13:06.380 a far better person to have around children than men pretending to be women who talk to kids about 0.99

00:13:11.060 their sexual fantasies. But Marcus Schrader was arrested anyway, and the drag queens were able 1.00

00:13:15.060 to continue indoctrinating kids as the mothers of those kids looked on approvingly. It's the same 0.65

00:13:20.880 thing that happens in Canada. Preach the gospel, go to jail. Preach perversion, police protect you.

00:13:25.760 In many states in this country, this will soon become the norm. A bill that recently passed

00:13:30.420 in the Michigan Statehouse called HB 4474 would make it a hate crime to cause someone to, quote,

00:13:37.220 feel terrorized, frightened, or threatened. And the bill specifies that sexual orientation and

00:13:42.480 gender identity or expression are protected classes. If you make someone feel threatened because

00:13:48.180 of their gender identity, you can go to prison for five years. Now, what does it mean to make 1.00

00:13:53.840 someone feel threatened because of their gender identity? Well, you know the answer to that

00:13:58.200 question. Trans activists have been screaming for years at maximum volume that unless you affirm them,

00:14:04.340 unless you affirm everything they think and feel, then you're committing literal violence. You're

00:14:09.460 a terrorist. You're engaging in genocide. So yes, this bill means that if you refuse to lie about basic 1.00

00:14:16.300 facts of biology in the state of Michigan, then you'll go to jail, just like that girl in Britain. 0.54

00:14:20.480 They'll haul you out of your home, and they'll arrest you for telling the truth,

00:14:26.240 just as we're seeing in other parts of the world that also allegedly are or were free.

00:14:33.580 They'll take the fight right to you. And if you don't believe that, consider what happened on

00:14:37.940 Wednesday to an elderly man in Utah named Craig Robertson. Robertson was obese, old, 75 years old,

00:14:46.500 used a cane to get around. He went to church on Sundays, took care of his blind son. But he also

00:14:52.500 liked to post angry memes and comments on social media, mocking and threatening Joe Biden, Kamala

00:14:58.220 Harris, other random political figures. In response to those memes, before dawn on Wednesday, the FBI

00:15:04.980 went to Robertson's home. Now, neighbors report that as many as 50 agents were on the scene.

00:15:10.060 Craig Robertson soon after was shot dead in a hail of bullets. Now, why did FBI agents kill

00:15:17.820 Robertson exactly? We don't know. The FBI won't tell us. We asked them yesterday. They refused to

00:15:21.500 explain. The New York Post now reports today that Robertson allegedly pointed a gun at the agents,

00:15:27.040 and maybe he did. We don't know that at this point. Maybe we'll find out more. Maybe we won't.

00:15:32.340 But we do know that the neighbors are all confused and disturbed, trying to figure out why the federal

00:15:37.800 government would need to send dozens of armed agents to a disabled elderly man's home because 0.99

00:15:43.080 of things he posted online. Now, if you saw them swarming his house and didn't have any context,

00:15:49.380 you'd think that they were taking down a drug kingpin. You'd never guess that the guy's crime

00:15:54.240 was a Facebook meme. So the question that many are asking, especially those in Robertson's community,

00:16:00.440 is whether this level of response was actually necessary. Did the FBI really consider

00:16:05.840 Robertson a credible threat to the president of the United States? It's hard to believe.

00:16:11.180 Now, it's not to defend the things that Robertson posted online, obviously. The point is that the

00:16:17.840 most powerful law enforcement organization in the country, which is funded by your tax dollars,

00:16:21.820 is completely unwilling right now to explain why they killed an American citizen two days ago.

00:16:26.120 They have no justification for why they decided to go after him at 6 a.m. in the morning.

00:16:29.600 They don't seem interested in providing a justification. If you're living in the UK or

00:16:35.780 Canada, then it's quite possible that none of this is particularly shocking to you. You're used

00:16:40.720 to this kind of thing. But if you thought the United States could never descend into totalitarianism,

00:16:46.780 as those countries have, then what's happening in many states across this country should disabuse you

00:16:53.100 of that notion. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:18:05.360 off of the opening monologue. I want you to listen to this brief conversation that happened on CNN

00:18:11.160 yesterday. Listen. When you hear the Ukraine exchange there, it's like watching the open of

00:18:16.420 an old Tucker Carlson show. He's not there anymore, but that's what it is. And these are busy people.

00:18:20.740 These are hardworking people. There are too many Democrats who want to say they're deplorables or,

00:18:24.920 you know, why talk to these people? There are millions of them. This is a family that literally

00:18:29.280 is an economic anchor in the community. The business started in the basement employs 80 people.

00:18:33.100 The new solar company employs 15 people in a part of the country that has been devastated

00:18:36.980 economically and challenged economically the last 25 years. They're good people. They raise money

00:18:40.960 for the Girl Scouts. They go to church, but they believe things that would break our fact check

00:18:44.340 machine. That's just a fact. And they don't trust us. They think we're part of the problem.

00:18:49.340 Yes, that's right, John. They do. But here's why I like this, because this is one of those moments,

00:18:54.160 and you see it every once in a while on CNN, one of those moments where someone seems to be

00:19:00.180 getting dangerously close to self-reflection. He is standing at the precipice. He has walked right up to the

00:19:06.160 edge of some kind of honest self-analysis, of self-awareness. He's like, he's almost there.

00:19:12.800 He is so close, but he won't make it over the hill. He's not going to make it there all the way.

00:19:19.460 And they never do. Yes, John, they think you're part of the problem because you are. You've lost the

00:19:26.180 trust of the people. The media has lost our trust. Do you ever stop to ask yourself why?

00:19:31.400 Okay. So sometimes they will, much of the time we get open contempt for the people that he's

00:19:39.420 talking about, which is just like regular Americans, right? Sometimes they'll cloak it in this kind of

00:19:43.940 like sympathy. We get that from John King there. He says, well, we shouldn't call them all deplorable.

00:19:49.400 We should treat them with respect, which, okay, great. Good for you. But now we're getting into

00:19:56.220 pity and it's patronizing and it's, no, let's not attack them. They're just confused. These are

00:20:03.580 very confused people. Well, that's no better than just calling them all deplorable. In fact,

00:20:08.680 I'd prefer that. I'd prefer that we're all, that you just call us all deplorable and awful 0.95

00:20:13.460 than to go the other way and say, oh, these poor people, they're so confused. They don't know what's

00:20:17.780 going on. They're so misled. They don't, they don't know any better. Let's not, let's not insult

00:20:24.120 them. So let's not be impressed with that. That's no better. In fact, again, I think it's worse

00:20:30.920 because if you really cared, if you really had any kind of empathy, then you would stop and think,

00:20:39.360 well, why do these people not trust us? And the reason they don't trust you is that you've revealed

00:20:47.680 yourselves to be partisan hacks and liars. And there's only, there's just only so many times that 0.92

00:20:54.540 you can say things that turn out to be untrue before people don't trust you anymore. That's the

00:21:01.320 way trust works. It works that way in a relationship. It works that way in a friendship. It works that way

00:21:06.520 in any context. And it works that way when it comes to the public's relationship with the media

00:21:11.040 or any institution. There are only so many times you can be misled before you say, well, I can't,

00:21:18.420 I don't trust anything you say anymore. I can't. I wish I could. It'd be, it'd be nice if we had an

00:21:24.760 honest media. It would be a useful thing to have, but we don't. And we hear about, they believe all

00:21:32.860 these things that would break the fact check machine. Of course, lots of the things that they,

00:21:36.520 that they believe are true. And if they break the fact check machine, it's because the fact,

00:21:43.980 the fact check machine is already broken. It's designed to be broken.

00:21:48.640 But then there, there are also, look, there are plenty of things that, you know, if you go up to

00:21:53.040 an average person on the street and you talk to them, yeah, you might find plenty of things they

00:21:57.820 believe that aren't true. You might even find a dreaded conspiracy theories that are outlandish.

00:22:04.300 Many of them are not outlandish and in fact are also true, but there are outlandish ones as well.

00:22:10.500 And maybe some of those are becoming more common also.

00:22:14.320 But that again, goes back to the distrust. People know they can't trust you. They can't trust the

00:22:19.960 media. And so that leaves a void. Like people want to know what's going on in the world and they want

00:22:25.420 explanations for things. And, and if they're not going to get it, you know, the media exists as

00:22:30.960 the mechanism to sort of find out these things. And if we can't trust that, that leaves us to

00:22:35.380 speculate. That's all we can do. That that's a natural reaction. So when people look at something,

00:22:42.960 say, well, why is that happening? What's going on there? What's up with that?

00:22:46.540 Now, media comes with their narrative. Well, this is what's really happening.

00:22:50.040 We know, well, we can't trust that. And so then either we could say, well, I won't think about

00:22:53.880 that anymore. Then that's people don't do that. That's not human. Instead, we have this gap here

00:22:59.960 and we fill it in. We just start thinking, well, what could be this could be that who knows?

00:23:05.120 That all goes back to you. That's your fault. In the media, that is. The Hill has this report.

00:23:11.360 The CEO of X, formerly known as Twitter, said in a Thursday interview with CNBC, the platform is

00:23:16.380 healthier and safer than it was a year ago. Linda Iaccarino said, by all objective metrics,

00:23:23.120 X is a much healthier and safer platform than it was a year ago. Since acquisitions,

00:23:26.920 we've built brand safety and content moderation tools that have never existed before at this

00:23:31.160 company. Iaccarino also referenced the company's recently introduced freedom of speech, not freedom

00:23:36.120 of reach policy. And she explained what this means. And we'll go to the clip where she talks

00:23:41.600 more about this. Staggeringly, they take it down. And that reducing that hateful content

00:23:48.420 from being seen is one of the best examples how X is committed to encouraging healthy behavior

00:23:59.360 online. And today I can confidently sit in front of you and say that 99.9% of all posted impressions

00:24:10.600 are healthy. How do you define healthy though? Is porn healthy? Are conspiracy theories healthy?

00:24:17.200 You know, it goes back to my point about our success with freedom of speech, not reach. And if it's,

00:24:26.360 if it is lawful, but it's awful, it's extraordinarily difficult for you to see it.

00:24:35.820 But how many millions of people follow Kanye West? Lawful, but awful. And he's allowed back on.

00:24:42.160 You know, Kanye, who hasn't rejoined the platform yet, but is planning to do so,

00:24:48.600 will operate within the very specific policies that we have established, that we're clear on,

00:24:57.560 that everyone who's watching this or listening on spaces can access themselves. And we have an

00:25:04.440 extraordinary team of people who are overseeing hands on keyboards, monitoring all day, every day

00:25:12.500 to make sure that that 99.99% of all. All right. So there's a lawful, but, but awful speech, not

00:25:20.240 reach. It sounds like Dr. Seuss is running Twitter now. There are far too many rhyming policies. That's

00:25:25.640 my first problem. I'm okay with policies that rhyme easier to remember, but you can't overdo it. And she

00:25:31.240 had two in one sentence. Well, the thing is with our speech, not reach policy that if it's lawful,

00:25:36.520 but not awful. Let's calm down, Willy Wonka. More importantly, this is the kind of thing that

00:25:44.320 definitely worries me, not because it rhymes, but because when you start evaluating speech based on

00:25:49.020 whether it's healthy or whether or not it's awful or whether or not it's hateful, that's where you

00:25:53.700 ultimately end up basically enforcing the same rules that every other social media platform enforces.

00:25:59.140 And if you don't ban people, but you just make it so that nobody can see their account or interact

00:26:03.240 with their content, then you've effectively banned them and arguably it'd be better to just ban them

00:26:07.700 outright. Right. I, I would, at least if a, if a platform comes, it comes in and ban someone,

00:26:13.640 then they know that they've been banned. But if you limit their reach, there are ways you could do it

00:26:20.680 where they would know about it. And there are ways where they might not, where they might not know.

00:26:25.300 And we know the old Twitter was doing that all the time, putting people on blacklists and that sort of

00:26:29.380 thing, limiting their engagement, limiting their reach. These are more underhanded tactics. I don't

00:26:35.060 consider this better for free speech. Now, at the same time, we should acknowledge that this is not

00:26:40.620 quite as simple as some people on the right make it out to be. Like there are some who say,

00:26:46.840 Hey, free speech, let people post whatever they want. And that's it. Well, no, it's not that simple

00:26:53.880 because if you just let people post whatever they want, then you have porn and you have spam all over

00:26:58.880 the place and you have doxing and death threats and a platform can become just unusable. Because at that

00:27:06.460 point, you can't even use it anymore. It's just not, it's not an experience that anybody, that any

00:27:13.980 normal person would want to have. So obviously there does have to be certain kinds of content that you

00:27:18.480 don't allow. I think almost everyone agrees with that. But for me, once you take that factor into

00:27:25.660 account, the rest really is pretty simple because I don't see why the policy can't just be this.

00:27:34.040 Okay. Why? If you, if you, if you value free speech, then the policy ought to be this.

00:27:41.700 You can post whatever opinion you want, period. All opinions, all perspectives are allowed.

00:27:50.420 Doesn't matter what it is. Okay. And yes, that opens the door for, so all kinds of opinions people

00:27:56.640 can have that are objectionable, crazy, offensive, but it's your opinion. It's your perspective.

00:28:03.200 That's allowed. We're not going to amplify or deamplify anyone based on their opinions.

00:28:10.460 We're not going to, we're not going to play favorites. We aren't going to juke the stats at all.

00:28:14.920 We're not going to prop you up if we like your opinion. Just if it's an opinion, if it's a

00:28:18.580 perspective of some kind, it's allowed to say what you want as far as that goes, which means

00:28:24.220 that sexually explicit content, you know, porn would not be allowed. That's not a perspective.

00:28:31.060 That's not an opinion. If you're posting just spam, that's not allowed. If you're, if you're

00:28:35.760 actually, you're actually threatening people, like I'm going to come and kill you. That's not allowed. 0.99

00:28:42.200 Shouldn't be. Doxing, posting someone's personal information shouldn't be allowed.

00:28:45.720 And none of those things are opinions. None of those things count as a perspective that you might

00:28:51.100 have. And so look, no matter how you, you slice it, no matter how you decide what kind of content

00:28:57.360 is allowed, it won't be, there are always going to be gray areas. There are always going to be some

00:29:00.740 difficult cases, things that are like, wherever you draw a line, there are always going to be things

00:29:04.920 that get close to that line. And then that's when things get maybe a little bit complicated. But I

00:29:08.520 think this is the clearest possible line you can draw where we, yeah, we're not, you're not allowing

00:29:14.520 literally everything. You can't do that. You shouldn't do that. All right. I mean, right now

00:29:18.820 on Twitter, the CNBC host asks, I think a valid question, which is, well, okay, we're not going to

00:29:26.480 allow awful content or unhealthy content. What about porn? And right now there's porn all over Twitter,

00:29:31.540 sexually explicit content all over Twitter. It shouldn't be there.

00:29:33.700 In my opinion, it should be, you know, that's an easy one. Of course you ban that.

00:29:40.420 That's not valid expression. That's not, that's not like expression that we need in a,

00:29:45.060 in order to, in order to have any kind of dialogue. Um, again, it's not an opinion. It's not a

00:29:52.020 perspective. If you, if you just tell people, well, no, you can't post graphic sexual content.

00:29:56.680 You're not preventing them from sharing their perspective on things.

00:30:00.020 And right now that stuff is all over Twitter. It shouldn't be, that stuff should be banned.

00:30:06.640 So this to me is a pretty simple policy that rules out all the kinds of stuff that you really

00:30:16.580 do want to rule out. And it allows everything that, uh, you know, that, that should be allowed

00:30:22.760 and that can't really hurt anyone. It's just the thing. When you have pornography on a platform,

00:30:30.020 where children are also allowed, um, then that's harmful. Okay. You're exposing people,

00:30:36.580 especially kids to content that can be harmful for them emotionally, psychologically, um,

00:30:44.320 spiritually in every way. Obviously you dock someone, you could, that's, that's harmful. You

00:30:51.060 can actually, that's real world harm that you are doing to them. You start threatening death. Again,

00:30:56.280 that's harm. No one is harmed by an opinion. Even if you hate the opinion, even if it's the worst

00:31:02.380 opinion, even if it's the worst perspective that you've ever seen, you think it's the most outrageous

00:31:07.860 thing. You're not harmed by that. There's no harm is done. So if you really value free speech,

00:31:14.220 that ought to be the policy. All right. Here's a, uh, pretty terrible story, unfortunately, but

00:31:22.520 well worth discussing. The AP reports about 49,500 people took their own lives last year in the U S

00:31:30.260 the highest number ever, according to new government data posted Thursday, the centers for disease control

00:31:35.400 prevention, which posted the numbers has not yet calculated a suicide rate for the year, but available

00:31:39.460 data suggests suicides are more common in the U S than at any time since the dawn of World War II.

00:31:45.240 There's something wrong. The numbers should not be going up. So Kristen, uh, Christina Wilber,

00:31:48.960 45 year old Florida woman whose son shot himself to death last year. My son should not have died.

00:31:53.700 She said, I know it's complicated. I really do, but we have to be able to do something,

00:31:56.820 something that we're not doing because whatever we're doing right now is not helping.

00:32:00.820 Experts caution that suicide is complicated. The recent increases might be driven by a range of factors,

00:32:05.800 um, including higher rates of depression and limited availability of mental health services.

00:32:10.060 But a main driver is the growing availability of guns said Jill, uh, Harkavy Friedman,

00:32:15.440 senior vice president of research at the America foundation for suicide prevention,

00:32:18.660 suicide attempts involving guns and death far more often than those with other means

00:32:23.020 and gun sales have boom, placing firearms in more and more homes. And from there, we get into a long

00:32:28.040 diatribe about how guns are the problem. So everyone acknowledges that we have a major crisis.

00:32:34.000 More people are killing themselves at any other point in history. It's true, of course, 0.99

00:32:37.560 that more people exist today than at any other point in history. So in terms of raw numbers,

00:32:43.420 you're going to have more suicide. You're going to have more everything because there are more people,

00:32:46.860 but, uh, it's not just the raw numbers. It's also the suicide rate that even though that hasn't

00:32:51.700 been officially calculated for last year, uh, all available evidence points to the fact that that is

00:32:57.440 also going up to historic highs. Um, and there should not be 50,000 people killing themselves

00:33:06.820 in a given year. Obviously, I mean, something is not right to put it very mildly. Something is wrong

00:33:13.080 as the woman who lost her son says in the article. Uh, so what is it? Of course, the media falls back

00:33:20.160 on its common themes, which is it's guns and it's mental illness. We need fewer guns and we need

00:33:26.140 more drugs. That'll solve it, they say. But this suggests that a suicidal person who's in a state

00:33:32.380 of total despair and has given up on life, that they will continue living if you simply take the gun

00:33:40.880 away as if there aren't a thousand other ways to kill yourself. Right? And, and besides, even if it's

00:33:48.220 true that a suicidal man could be kept around, kept on earth for longer by taking his gun away,

00:33:56.000 that doesn't solve the problem of his despair. You've still left him in despair. Are we satisfied

00:34:02.660 with that? I'm not. So can you solve it with drugs? Well, no, that's clear. More people are on

00:34:09.520 psychiatric drugs than ever before. And more people are depressed and suicidal than ever before.

00:34:14.020 So the strategy isn't working. There's just no evidence on a, on a, on a culture wide scale.

00:34:19.600 There's no evidence that just getting more and more people on drugs, more and more people are

00:34:23.320 getting help, mental health services, that it, that it'll prevent this. All the evidence goes the

00:34:27.340 other way. Um, and there's a reason for that because depression is despair and despair is the loss of

00:34:36.340 hope. It's the loss of meaning a person in despair. This is the point I'm always trying to make. And I

00:34:43.580 harp on it because I think it's really important. And I rarely hear anyone bring this up, which is

00:34:48.540 amazing to me because it's so basic. A person in despair isn't crazy. Okay. He isn't sick in the

00:34:58.120 traditional sense of the word. His despair isn't even unreasonable. In fact, there are plenty of

00:35:05.920 valid reasons to feel despair. The world's a difficult place and many terrible things happen every

00:35:13.040 day. Um, you know, I always hear that depression is clinical if you feel depressed for no discernible

00:35:19.920 reason. And that's how you, that's one of the ways you know that it's a clinical issue because

00:35:24.480 someone's depressed and you look around their life and there's no reason for it. Well,

00:35:28.020 there's no such thing as being depressed for no reason. The very fact of being a conscious human

00:35:35.440 being in a world full of pain and death and suffering, the very awareness of, of the world

00:35:41.120 and of your own human condition and your place in that world, the awareness of pain and death that we

00:35:46.820 all have because we're sentient creatures. All of these are reasons to be depressed, reasons to be in

00:35:53.960 despair. Reasons that aren't, that make sense actually, which isn't to say that you should be

00:36:03.220 in despair or that we should leave people in despair. It doesn't mean that when someone is in

00:36:06.840 despair, we say, well, of course you feel that way, you know, go away. Obviously not. My point is simply

00:36:11.160 that we should, we should actually start by acknowledging that those who are in despair are

00:36:15.900 feeling that way because they've noticed and experienced some very real things about the world.

00:36:22.120 They aren't delusional. Okay. Um, we are just awful at handling depression in this culture and

00:36:31.000 nothing we're doing is making anything better. And yet nobody wants to make any, wants to even think

00:36:37.120 about it. There's no conversation. Well, maybe we should radically change our approach to this because

00:36:43.180 the more that we medicalize it, the more that we make this clinical, the worse everything is getting.

00:36:49.160 And so at what point I've been shouting about this for years and it's only just gets worse.

00:36:55.180 So the point that I'm making is ignored. The problem just keeps getting worse. It's like,

00:36:58.460 no, we're not going to do it that way. We'll keep doing it our way. Okay. Well,

00:37:01.720 what, when we get to 500,000 suicides in a year, will you then stop and think like maybe our

00:37:07.100 fundamental approach to this is just wrong. When someone is depressed, you know, what we do

00:37:14.220 basically as a society is we look around and we feign surprise and we say depressed. Well,

00:37:20.400 what possible reason could you have to be depressed? You must be sick. Here's a drug. 0.99

00:37:24.120 It'll make those thoughts go away. There's some kind of imbalance. You're depressed. There must be

00:37:28.580 an imbalance in your brain of some kind. That's the only reason I could possibly see why you would be

00:37:32.680 depressed. But that depressed person, you know, is justified in responding. Like, dude,

00:37:39.340 look around. What do you mean? Why am I depressed? Why wouldn't I be depressed? Have you seen life

00:37:46.080 recently? So I think it's better to acknowledge that there are many reasons in life for feeling

00:37:56.440 despair. And the next step is to help people navigate their way through that darkness by helping

00:38:03.620 them to have a sense of hope and meaning in spite of all that. The problem though is that a

00:38:09.320 drug cannot give you hope and meaning. I'm sorry, but they just can't put that into a pill.

00:38:15.920 There's no meaning pill. I'll take this pill and life will have meaning. They can't do that. They

00:38:20.520 can numb you. They can change chemical balances in your brain, perhaps. They can do things like that.

00:38:27.660 But they can't give you meaning. You can't take a pill and say, oh, now I know my life has meaning

00:38:34.300 again. And all despair, all depression, all suicide ultimately traces back to this, to this loss of

00:38:42.120 hope and meaning. And that's why we're seeing so much depression and suicide in the culture, because

00:38:46.520 the culture instills this meaninglessness into the population, into kids from a young age.

00:38:51.740 That's it. That's why it's happening. That's why it's a crisis level event in our culture.

00:38:59.560 Why do we have a lot of suicide in our culture? Well, because we have no meaning in our culture.

00:39:04.560 And people live these lives devoid of meaning, again, from a very young age.

00:39:09.360 They just, their whole life, they're staring at screens. They watch TV. They go on social media.

00:39:14.480 They play video games. There's not a lot of real human connection. There's not a lot of,

00:39:19.500 you know, religion is declining. Church attendance rapidly declining. Kind of that spiritual

00:39:27.960 bedrock of people's lives is slipping away, and it's being replaced. So our culture came along and

00:39:36.220 said, well, that's not what life is all about, actually. See, for thousands of years, people assume

00:39:40.960 that life is about, is all about, it's really about faith and about, you know, pointing yourself

00:39:51.540 towards the eternal. And then our culture comes along and says, well, that's not it. No. And people

00:39:58.280 listen, and they say, okay, well, so forget about all that. But that source of meaning hasn't been

00:40:05.640 replaced by anything. So no, don't find meaning in that. Find it in nothing. There you go. Here's

00:40:11.600 nothing instead. And until we address that, until we get rid of the fundamental nihilism that lies at

00:40:19.260 the heart of the culture, this will not get better. And in fact, it will get a lot worse. And so

00:40:26.440 this, what I'm saying can be ignored for another decade. And we'll check back in a decade in the

00:40:34.280 suicide. And there will be 100,000 suicides a year. Like, it's just going to continue in that

00:40:40.520 direction. It will not change until we actually deal with this issue on a much more fundamental

00:40:48.780 level. And until people are willing to talk about things like depression in a way that goes beyond

00:40:55.600 the simply clinical, sanitized language that we always use.

00:41:03.540 One other brief thing on a much, much lighter note before we get to the comments. This is from

00:41:11.300 the Mirrors. So this is a story that's been sent to me, I don't know, 600 times maybe in the past

00:41:17.360 couple of days. I'm not complaining, by the way, for good reason. So the Mirror reports,

00:41:23.600 a group of Peruvian villagers are living in fear as they believe they are under attack by

00:41:29.860 mysterious seven-foot-tall aliens that they've named Las Palacaras, which translates to the face

00:41:37.060 peelers. In a remote district of Alto Nane, Nane, I don't know, N-A-N-A-Y, Nane, located northeast of

00:41:45.740 Lima, members of the Iquitu tribe, hailing from the San Antonio native community, have recounted

00:41:51.860 chilling encounters with these extraterrestrial beings. Descriptions of the alleged extraterrestrial

00:41:57.220 beings include large heads, yellowish eyes, and immunity to the villagers' hunting weapons.

00:42:03.740 Some villagers have likened the aliens to the mythical pelicaras from folklore,

00:42:07.700 creatures said to feast on human faces, fat, and organs. Villagers claim that these enigmatic

00:42:13.600 figures, often shrouded in dark-colored hoods, have been targeting their community for nearly a month

00:42:18.840 since July 11th. Multiple incidents have been reported, with the most recent involving a 15-year-old

00:42:23.300 girl who was hospitalized after a confrontation with the aliens. There have been other, and as I

00:42:29.780 said, I've read, this is not just the Mirror. You might say, well, this is the Mirror. What is that?

00:42:36.100 What kind of publication is that? That's not credible. Well, I'll have you know that this

00:42:39.660 that this invasion of the face peelers has been reported by many media outlets. And in some of

00:42:47.980 the reports, what they're saying is that actually these aliens look a lot like the Green Goblin

00:42:52.140 from Spider-Man. So that's the story. Now, I have also seen videos that are going to, that purport to

00:43:02.740 show, well, I don't know what they're supposed to show. I mean, I've seen videos where lots of things

00:43:08.620 are happening in the videos, and it appears that there's disturbing things happening, but you can't

00:43:13.780 really see the aliens. But by no means should that dissuade us from believing this.

00:43:21.720 Look, these face peelers, they're hiding in the woods. They're not just going to come out. 1.00

00:43:27.620 I mean, you pull your phone out. This is one of the many ridiculous points that Ben Shapiro brought 0.64

00:43:33.160 up in our debate where I destroyed him. He said, well, why, why aren't the aliens on, on,

00:43:38.180 on video? You think it's that simple? You think you just pull your phone out and the aliens is going

00:43:43.320 to say, you think the face peeling alien is going to say, okay, here you go. Let me pause. Let's take

00:43:48.280 a selfie before I eat your face. Is that what the alien is going to say? Let's be realistic about 0.81

00:43:52.800 this. So it's not that simple. I don't want to hear that. I've heard too much of this,

00:43:56.620 the skeptics that don't believe these people. Skeptics online. Well, I want to see video. I

00:44:02.840 need to see video. Oh, do you want to, you want to go down to Peru with your, with your camera phone

00:44:09.440 and, and try to get, try to get the face peelers on video. You want to do that? One of the face

00:44:14.640 peeling aliens comes up to you. Is that what you're going to do? You're going to pull your phone out

00:44:17.460 right away so you can get it on social media, so you can get it on Twitter for your Twitter likes,

00:44:20.980 huh? No, what you're going to do is you're going to run away from the face peelers. So that's why 1.00

00:44:25.620 they're not on video. In fact, the fact that they're not on video is all the more proof that

00:44:30.320 they're real. Think of it that way. So I believe them. Um, I believe them. And I think that frankly,

00:44:38.120 if you doubt this story, that, uh, not only are you denying the evidence and you're denying the

00:44:43.600 science, but even, uh, and I don't use terms like this very often. I don't throw this kind of charge

00:44:48.520 around very often, but I would even say that it's culturally insensitive. And frankly, you could

00:44:54.060 argue racist, uh, to not believe, uh, these proven villagers who are speaking their truth and

00:45:00.500 talking about their experiences with the face peelers. And I believe them. And, uh, so the 1.00

00:45:05.440 aliens are here and they're peeling faces down in Peru and soon they'll be here. Okay. 1.00

00:45:13.180 And you know, why do they want to peel faces? I don't know. The aliens have been coming. They

00:45:21.180 came a long way. They've been doing their research. They've been on Tik TOK. They've seen what people

00:45:26.580 look like these days. They've seen a lot of faces and they said, we got to peel those faces off.

00:45:32.900 That's gross. We can't invade earth with people looking like that. So it could be, that could be 0.73

00:45:37.420 that. I don't know. I don't know the motivation. Anyway, it's real. It's happening. Let's get to

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00:47:15.220 with a brief story of, um, hope and dreams. I was told a couple of weeks ago, I think I mentioned on

00:47:23.920 the show. In fact, it was McKenna who texted me and said that, uh, paint your life, a wonderful

00:47:28.660 sponsor wants to come back on the show. And is there any painting that I would like for them to

00:47:33.520 do for me, um, so that I can talk, you know, more authentically about my experience with paint your

00:47:38.920 life. And they've done paintings for us in the past that were, they were great. And, uh, and I was

00:47:44.060 asked, well, is there a picture of your kids or a vacation with your family that you would like

00:47:48.540 memorialize in a painting? And I said, no, we have enough of that. Like, I know what my kids look

00:47:54.500 like. It's, it's, we don't need any more pictures of it. What I said is I would like something that

00:48:00.420 maybe doesn't memorialize an event that has technically really happened, or maybe it does,

00:48:05.460 but instead it, it speaks to a deeper truth. And so I asked, can I get a painting of me

00:48:14.000 greeting our alien overlords when they land on earth? Will you paint that for me? Paint your 0.60

00:48:21.840 life. And while this was their answer, let's unveil for everyone to see. Sean is here. Thank you,

00:48:28.360 Sean. And there it is. Can we see that on camera? That is the painting. Uh, there,

00:48:38.840 I just want to say, you know, I don't get emotional very often on the show. I try not to,

00:48:46.060 to get emotional and I'm, I'm holding back my emotions now, but as much as I can. But when I

00:48:51.880 lay my eyes on this, I see such beauty, such raw beauty and truth that, uh, it does, it makes me,

00:48:59.400 it makes me well up with, I mean, it almost brings a tear to my eye almost. Um, and there are so many

00:49:04.560 details of this, you know, I just had this vision in my, in my head, I, it, but I didn't have it

00:49:10.840 fully formed. And so they were able to take that vision and even include details that I never

00:49:16.300 expected. I mean, we've got the wall, we've got the product placement in, in the, which I think,

00:49:20.380 I think it makes it even classier. So this is already a very classy painting,

00:49:23.560 but having the product placement in the painting as well is so much classier. So we've got our

00:49:29.900 merchandise. We've actually have, and I don't know, how do you explain this? Did I greet the

00:49:35.980 aliens with merchandise from the Matt Walsh store on dailywire.com? Is this a gift that I gave them

00:49:41.740 when they landed? Did they already have it themselves? Did they land because they're big

00:49:46.420 fans of the Matt Walsh show? Did they come all this way to have me sign the merchandise? These are

00:49:50.360 all, that's a story, you know, that's what's so wonderful about this piece of art, this masterwork,

00:49:53.960 this masterpiece is that that that's a story you can decide for yourself, you know? And I think

00:50:01.660 that through the ages, when people look upon this painting that will one day be in the Smithsonian,

00:50:06.340 they will, they'll debate this, you know, they'll say, did this happen? Did it not really happen?

00:50:12.980 Did it happen only in spirit? But before it makes it to the Smithsonian, at least for the rest of my

00:50:22.000 lifetime, this painting will be hanging in our living room above the fireplace. I did tell them,

00:50:30.100 I said, make the painting as big as you possibly can. And they made it even bigger than I thought.

00:50:38.020 And so I'll be bringing this home to my wife. And I, and I, you know, based on my experience with

00:50:45.120 this sort of thing, if I know my wife, and I think I do, she is going to love this. She's going to look

00:50:50.460 at that and say, can we get five of them made? Can we get a painting like this in every room of the

00:50:55.560 house? That's what she'll be mad about. She'll say, oh, Matt, you only had, you only did one of

00:51:00.780 these? Well, that's, that's just for our living room, but what are we going to have in our bedroom,

00:51:05.360 for example? So anyway, I'm very much looking forward to bringing this home and for the way,

00:51:10.320 the, how, how it will help to also strengthen my marriage as well. So this is great. Thank you to

00:51:17.240 Paint Your Life. Go to paintinlife.com and get your own. I don't even know if they'll make a

00:51:19.560 painting like this for everybody, but they made one for me. So great. Okay. We'll just keep that

00:51:24.680 in the background as we move on to some of these comments here. I don't know how we can move on

00:51:29.220 from that. I almost feel like there's no point, but sweet momster says, I wonder which edited clip

00:51:37.520 will Jason Campbell post about today's show. I'm fascinated by his commitment to amplify

00:51:41.800 Matt Walsh content. Well, there's a comment from yesterday and there were, I don't think there was any,

00:51:45.980 I don't think media matters pulled any clip from yesterday, uh, from the show yesterday to,

00:51:50.620 which whenever that happens, I, I, I honestly feel bad about myself. Like that was a waste that

00:51:55.800 apparently I wasn't doing my job yesterday. If there was not one clip that they could pull and

00:52:00.680 be offended by. So, um, I, uh, I deeply regret that. Butts LaRue says the Pence ad was bad,

00:52:10.620 but still doesn't compete with the Terry McAuliffe July 4th. That may be the goat. Uh, yeah,

00:52:15.560 that was the one I think I kind of referred to that yesterday, but that was not the only ad of

00:52:20.120 this type, but it was one of those ads where he was at the grill wasn't even turned on. He's wearing

00:52:24.900 a, if I remember correctly, that was the one where he had an apron, you know, he's at the grill as if

00:52:29.820 we just caught, Oh, you caught me at the grill, grill up some burgers for the fam. And he had an

00:52:33.880 apron that still had the creases in it. You can tell he just took it out of the package. That was great.

00:52:38.560 Um, Ray Zist says, Matt, how can you reconcile saying both if being pro-life causes people to

00:52:46.880 lose, then so be it. And also the only issue that matters in a primary is electability.

00:52:51.920 Well, that's a fair question. Uh, I guess when I, when I talk about being a single issue voter

00:52:57.040 in the primaries and the only thing that matters is, can you be, can you actually win the general?

00:53:02.000 Uh, I sort of, when I say that, I, I sort of assume I'm talking to an audience that understands

00:53:06.720 some basic things about me. And one of them, one of the, one of those is that when I talk about

00:53:10.120 electability, I don't mean it in the way that it's traditionally meant because usually when someone

00:53:15.220 says, well, you got to be electable, they mean you have to be a moderate. You have to be, basically

00:53:19.640 you have to be a liberal. You have to be left, you have to be left wing, left leaning on everything,

00:53:22.960 especially social issues in order to be electable. I don't mean it that way. Um, so I mean,

00:53:27.920 starting from, if starting from the basic premise that the candidate is actually conservative. So

00:53:35.760 if we are dealing with candidates who are, if they're not actually conservative, then no, um,

00:53:41.340 voting for a liberal candidate because you think they're going to win the general

00:53:45.380 and beat the other liberal candidate makes no sense. You might as well, there's no point then just,

00:53:49.960 you could just vote for the Democrat then. Um, so if the candidates that you're considering are

00:53:55.500 actually conservative and you're trying to decide of the conservative candidates, which one do I want

00:54:01.640 to represent that viewpoint in general election? Uh, the only thing that matters from there is

00:54:08.300 whether or not they can actually win. So that's what I mean there. Um, and finally, polling station

00:54:17.380 says, I don't understand why trans people are so important that you've devoted years of your life 1.00

00:54:21.700 to talking about them. Well, uh, they're not, don't worry about that. What, what is important

00:54:27.540 though is the truth. Reality is important. Many would say, I would say it's the most important thing

00:54:34.280 and it's not my fault or my choice that trans activists have decided to be the greatest enemies 0.51

00:54:42.660 to truth in the world, in our lifetime. You know, trans activists are the greatest enemies to truth 1.00

00:54:47.540 in the entire world. And, uh, that's what they've, that's the decision they've made. That's the battle

00:54:53.680 they've decided they want to have. That's who they've decided they want to be. And so, um, what

00:54:59.140 that means, if I'm going to defend truth, it means that I'm fighting with these people quite a bit.

00:55:04.140 Um, I wish it wasn't that way. And I wish that there was not this group of people who are devoted

00:55:09.460 to denying the most basic facts of physical reality, but they do exist. And so I have to

00:55:18.440 fight against them because if we're not going to defend reality, then there's really not else.

00:55:23.740 There's nothing else worth talking about before I defend, if we're not going to defend, for example,

00:55:28.740 the reality of me meeting aliens and giving them my Johnny, the walrus merchandise.

00:55:34.520 It's one of the very real things we need to talk about. Candace Owens just wrapped the 10 part

00:55:40.100 series, convicting a murderer that you don't want to miss. It's one of the, one of our most

00:55:43.700 ambitious projects yet. You might think you're familiar with the Stephen Avery case and everything

00:55:47.840 that happened in Manitowoc County. This is especially true if you watch making a murderer,

00:55:52.260 but it turns out the filmmakers only told you part of the story and coming soon, Candace Owens will

00:55:57.000 unveil the shocking parts of Avery story that were omitted in the Netflix series. I'm so excited to

00:56:02.080 present the convicting a murderer trailer. Check it out.

00:56:04.820 This is a collect call from an inmate at the Calumet County Jail.

00:56:10.060 The man served 18 years in prison until DNA evidence cleared his name.

00:56:13.700 The Two Rivers man was convicted of sexual assault in 1985, but exonerated with DNA evidence in 2003.

00:56:20.400 So this is the infamous Avery Lott.

00:56:24.340 Now, two years later, he again finds himself tied to a police investigation.

00:56:29.800 Accused of murdering Theresa Hallbuck on the Avery property, Stephen Avery's 16-year-old nephew admitted his involvement in the rape and murder of Theresa Hallbuck.

00:56:37.780 The car is discovered just around the bend.

00:56:41.780 It was just this worldwide phenomenon. I think they framed this guy.

00:56:45.540 I think he intended to crush the vehicle, but ran out of time.

00:56:49.520 Avery thinks the $36 million lawsuit he filed is why he's being targeted in this investigation.

00:56:57.520 10-21 and 24 mainstream cops. Do we have Stephen Avery in custody?

00:57:02.020 Netflix made millions of dollars from making a murderer, but the filmmakers left out very important details, mountains of evidence that you have not yet seen. The blood vial.

00:57:11.540 The most egregious manipulation from the movie.

00:57:14.540 Interrogations.

00:57:15.540 That's when he started beating me because I told him that he's sick.

00:57:18.540 Cell phones.

00:57:19.540 And I saw melted plastic parts of a cell phone.

00:57:21.540 Interviews.

00:57:22.540 Her arms were pinned behind her head.

00:57:24.540 They made Stephen Avery look like a victim.

00:57:26.540 Do you ever believe your brother's guilty?

00:57:28.540 I don't know if I'm a suspect. I got an eye.

00:57:31.540 I'm getting sick and tired of media deception.

00:57:40.540 Evidence piling up.

00:57:41.540 Why would they omit so many different things?

00:57:43.540 Why are you editing my testimony?

00:57:47.540 I am not going to make the same mistake that the filmmakers did.

00:57:52.540 Rearranging the testimony.

00:57:54.540 They delete a portion of it at the end.

00:57:57.540 How could they claim to care about the truth?

00:57:59.540 They all know that Stephen Avery committed this crime.

00:58:07.540 The evidence forces me to conclude that you are the most dangerous individual ever to set foot in this courtroom.

00:58:14.540 Well, to get the rest of the story, you have to watch the series, which is coming up this September.

00:58:21.540 This 10-part series is exclusive to Daily Wire Plus.

00:58:23.540 So join now at dailywire.com slash subscribe to get 25% off your new annual membership.

00:58:29.540 So you can watch Convicting a Murderer when it premieres.

00:58:31.540 Trust me, you don't want to miss it.

00:58:33.540 Now let's get to our Daily Cancellation.

00:58:34.540 Well, you know, this segment, the Daily Cancellation, is special to me.

00:58:41.540 Indeed, I think it's probably special to the entire world.

00:58:44.540 Some would even say that it is sacred.

00:58:46.540 And I consider it a privilege, but also an important responsibility to cancel someone at the end of every show, every day, forever, until the end of time.

00:58:54.540 But on rare occasion, very, very rare occasion, I find it necessary to dedicate this portion of the show to something other than cancelling some evildoer.

00:59:01.540 And usually this happens when there's something else I want to talk about for 10 minutes, but I can't find any other space for it in the show.

00:59:06.540 So that's how we end up here.

00:59:07.540 Anyway, the point is that today is one of those very rare days.

00:59:11.540 So I want to tell you about a man named Oliver Anthony.

00:59:14.540 He's a blue-collar guy, lives way out in the sticks in Virginia, basically off the grid.

00:59:18.540 In his free time, he likes to play and sing songs that he writes.

00:59:22.540 For the past few years, he's been occasionally recording his songs on his phone, posting them to his YouTube channel, which had, I don't know, maybe a few hundred subscribers.

00:59:29.540 His videos would get maybe a few dozen or a few hundred views.

00:59:32.540 But that has changed rather suddenly over the last few days.

00:59:35.540 This man and his music have gone massively viral, thanks primarily to one song of his called Rich Men North of Richmond, which made its way from YouTube to Twitter where it caught fire.

00:59:45.540 And the video of him performing this song while standing in the woods in front of his deer stand has now been viewed millions of times.

00:59:51.540 The song is currently trending nationwide on Twitter, and he's even had public offers, including from our friend John Rich, to produce and distribute a studio album.

00:59:59.540 Oliver Anthony has gone from full obscurity, about as obscure as a musical artist can possibly be, playing songs in the woods by himself, to musical fame in the span of like two days.

01:00:11.540 And it's a great story.

01:00:12.540 The best part is the song that has driven all of this.

01:00:16.540 And there are a few points to make about that.

01:00:19.540 But first, let's play a clip of the song.

01:00:20.540 Here it is.

01:00:21.540 I've been selling my soul, working all day, overtime hours for bullsh** pay, so I can sit out here and waste my life away, drag back home and drown my troubles away. 0.97

01:00:37.540 It's a damn shame what the world's gotten to for people like me, people like you. 0.96

01:00:45.540 I wish I could just wake up, ain't it not be true?

01:00:49.540 But it is, oh it is, living in the new world, with an old soul.

01:01:00.540 These rich men, North Richmond, Lord knows they all just wanna have total control.

01:01:07.540 Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do, and they don't think you know. 0.85

01:01:13.540 But I know that you do, cause your dollar ain't sh**, and it's taxed to no end.

01:01:19.540 Cause the rich men, North Richmond.

01:01:23.540 I wish politicians would look out for miners, and not just miners on an island somewhere.

01:01:38.540 Lord, we got folks in the street, ain't got nothing to heat, and the old beast milking welfare. 1.00

01:01:47.540 Well God, if you're five foot three, and you're three hundred pounds, taxes ought not to pay for your bags of fudge rounds.

01:01:55.540 Young men are putting themselves six feet in the ground. 0.99

01:01:59.540 Cause all this damn country does, is keep on kicking them down. 0.99

01:02:04.540 Okay, so that's a clip of it. 0.99

01:02:06.540 Now first, needless to say, I love this song.

01:02:08.540 This is my kind of music.

01:02:09.540 I could listen to this sort of stuff all day.

01:02:10.540 Just a guy with a beard standing in the woods, singing about his troubles and playing the guitar.

01:02:14.540 That's my vibe, as the kids would say.

01:02:16.540 It's also what all country music should sound like, instead of sounding as it so often does, like generic pop music with a slight twang.

01:02:23.540 Most country music these days, like all other kinds of popular music, sounds like it was made by an algorithm, not a person.

01:02:29.540 And this song, on the other hand, sounds raw and real and human.

01:02:33.540 But it's interesting that a song like this has become an internet sensation.

01:02:37.540 Because normally when you hear about a song that's gone viral, you assume that it must be Taylor Swift singing for the 90th time about one of her ex-boyfriends.

01:02:45.540 Or maybe another rap song about the female anatomy or whatever. 0.89

01:02:48.540 You imagine a song that people can dance to in TikTok videos, which they record in public somewhere, like at the grocery store, while confused shoppers look on.

01:02:58.540 You don't necessarily imagine a low-tech, low-budget recording of a folk song where a bearded guy stands in the woods and sings about the pain of being a working class American.

01:03:08.540 So, why has this one caught on?

01:03:11.540 Well, I think there are two reasons.

01:03:12.540 First of all, it's just good music.

01:03:17.540 Oliver Anthony has raw talent and sometimes the combination of good music and raw talent is hard to ignore.

01:03:23.540 Second, it's the message.

01:03:26.540 Anthony is singing about the forgotten American.

01:03:30.540 The working class man who breaks his back all day only to have his pockets picked by the IRS.

01:03:36.540 While the people in charge of this country ignore his concerns and spit in his face whenever he tries to convey them.

01:03:41.540 He's speaking up for people who don't have a voice.

01:03:44.540 And although there's real poetry in his lyrics, he's expressing those concerns using the same language that they would use.

01:03:52.540 Now, we hear so much about the need for representation in our culture, but the fact is that there are millions of people who are not represented anywhere.

01:04:02.540 Not in media, not in Hollywood, not in popular music, not in government, nowhere.

01:04:07.540 And those are the people who look and live like Oliver Anthony.

01:04:11.540 It's also worth noting, I think it's interesting, those lines.

01:04:14.540 That's why I wanted to play that much of it so you could hear the lines at the end.

01:04:17.540 The lines about the welfare state.

01:04:20.540 This song is being called a populist anthem, which it is.

01:04:24.540 I think it may become the protest song of this generation.

01:04:27.540 But conventional wisdom says that attacking entitlements, attacking welfare is not populist.

01:04:33.540 In fact, we're told, if you really care about people like Oliver Anthony, you should defend entitlement programs and insist that we should continue spending hundreds of billions on them.

01:04:43.540 But the truth is that guys like Anthony, they work all day to provide for themselves and their own families.

01:04:49.540 They're not fans of the fact that their money is being taken from them.

01:04:53.540 Food is being taken out of their children's mouths in order to prop up this system of entitlements that really functions as nothing more than a vote buying scheme for Democrats.

01:05:02.540 OK, go up to almost any guy at any bar in any blue collar part of the country and ask them about welfare.

01:05:09.540 And they will say something very similar to what Anthony says in that song.

01:05:14.540 Almost all of them will.

01:05:16.540 And yet Republicans are afraid to even mention the subject for fear that they'll lose the votes of the very people who are being scammed by this system.

01:05:25.540 I said there are two reasons why the song's popular.

01:05:28.540 Actually, there are three.

01:05:29.540 So I lied because there's something else, too.

01:05:31.540 It's not just that the message is resonating.

01:05:34.540 I think there's something deeper, too.

01:05:36.540 It's it's it's authenticity.

01:05:38.540 OK, people in this country are starved for authenticity.

01:05:43.540 Everything is fake, right?

01:05:46.540 Everything around us is fake.

01:05:48.540 The music is all basically computer generated.

01:05:50.540 The movies are full of CGI.

01:05:52.540 Most of what you see on the news is fake.

01:05:55.540 Most of what you find on social media is fake.

01:05:57.540 We've got filters and Photoshop and A.I. and deep fakes.

01:06:03.540 We're just surrounded by artificiality.

01:06:06.540 We're drowning in it.

01:06:07.540 And that's why a video of a guy pouring his heart out while he plays his guitar in the woods in front of his deer stand with his dogs laying there in the grass and the cicadas buzzing in the background.

01:06:16.540 That's why it resonates with people.

01:06:17.540 It's like it's like it's a it's a glass of cool water for people who are thirsting for something real.

01:06:22.540 And that's why it went viral.

01:06:25.540 And then also, again, it's just good music.

01:06:27.540 It's simply good music.

01:06:28.540 And maybe it doesn't need to be any more complicated than that.

01:06:31.540 And for all of those reasons, Oliver Anthony is today certainly not canceled.

01:06:37.540 And I'll do it for the show today and this week.

01:06:40.540 Talk to you on Monday.

01:06:42.540 Have a great weekend.

01:06:43.540 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - August 11, 2023

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