The Matt Walsh Show - August 23, 2023


Ep. 1211 - We Need To Solve Our Violent Crime Epidemic The El Salvador Way


Episode Stats

Length

1 hour and 3 minutes

Words per Minute

183.6307

Word Count

11,654

Sentence Count

761

Misogynist Sentences

5

Hate Speech Sentences

18


Summary

The media has started another round of hit pieces against the president of El Salvador because of his very harsh way of rounding up and imprisoning violent gang members. They say that instilling law and order is inhumane and not worth the cost, but they never acknowledge the cost of not instilling a law & order. Also, the first Republican primary debate is tonight, and CNN hails Biden for his empathetic performance when visiting Maui after the wildfires. And are we experiencing an epidemic of people behaving rudely in public? If so, what s causing it? We ll talk about all that and more today on The Matt Walsh Show.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Today on The Matt Walsh Show, the media has started another round of hit pieces against
00:00:03.420 the president of El Salvador because of his very harsh way of rounding up and imprisoning
00:00:07.460 violent gang members. They say that instilling law and order is inhumane and not worth the cost,
00:00:12.040 but they never acknowledge the cost of not instilling law and order. We'll talk about
00:00:15.100 that today. Also, the first Republican primary debate is tonight, and CNN hails Biden for his
00:00:19.880 empathetic performance when visiting Maui after the wildfires, even though, of course,
00:00:23.540 he was the exact opposite of empathetic. And are we experiencing an epidemic of people
00:00:27.540 behaving rudely in public? If so, what's causing it? We'll talk about all that and more today on
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00:01:45.900 844-ROUGH-700 today. There are so many news reports now on rampant crime in major cities that at this
00:01:52.380 point, you can't be blamed if your eyes glaze over when you see them. There are only so many
00:01:56.360 clips of thugs shoplifting, doing street takeovers, or shooting at cops that you can watch. And at some
00:02:02.460 point, even though it's horrible, you get numb to it. But one recent report from CNN on property
00:02:07.800 crime in San Francisco stands out. We played part of this clip a couple of weeks ago on the show,
00:02:11.880 but here it is in full context. Watch. San Francisco businesses fed up with crime. One sandwich shop
00:02:18.940 owner is calling for action after he says he was attacked outside his store. He says he yelled
00:02:23.360 at a man to stop urinating on his trash can and then was sucker punched. His Instagram post about
00:02:27.760 the incident has now gone viral. I'm fed up with this city. It's like, I can't just be outside and
00:02:37.080 just running a business without getting punched in the face. It shouldn't be this way at all. Like,
00:02:41.960 this isn't how our city should be. Now, it's not clear what was said before the altercation or
00:02:47.840 whether there's even video of it, but San Francisco police have said they are investigating.
00:02:52.400 It comes as some stores are locking up everything from coffee to frozen food to try to combat
00:02:57.120 theft. Our Kyung Law visited one Walgreens that's hit by shoplifters more than a dozen times a day.
00:03:03.480 It happened three times while she was inside.
00:03:09.320 Richie Greenberg walked into his San Francisco Walgreens when he saw in the frozen food section
00:03:14.760 this. Chains, heavy chains that went from padlock to padlock on both sides of the doors.
00:03:22.180 And this was bizarre, something I'd never seen before. This is just more icing on the cake
00:03:28.620 telling us that rampant crime is, is, has become a regular part of life. So typical that in the 30
00:03:37.080 minutes we were at this Walgreens, we watched three people, including this man, Steele.
00:03:46.080 Did that guy pay? Did that guy pay? He didn't pay.
00:03:52.640 So this Walgreens is supposedly hit by shoplifters more than any other Walgreens in the United States,
00:03:57.100 which is really saying something. The bar is pretty high to achieve that record. People are walking in
00:04:01.920 and out with, with, with merchandise at will without paying. Shoplifters robbed the store
00:04:06.660 three times while CNN was inside reporting on shoplifting. As I said, you've seen portions of
00:04:13.020 that clip when it went viral several weeks ago, we played it on the show, but we never played the end
00:04:16.740 of that segment. And here it is. San Francisco City Supervisor Matt Dorsey,
00:04:22.480 former police spokesman and recovering drug addict, sees the rampant shoplifting as a systemic problem
00:04:28.660 from city leaders to an understaffed police force to the fentanyl crisis.
00:04:33.520 When you're seeing that level of retail theft, that tends to be subsistence level retail theft.
00:04:40.020 People are hungry. People are hungry. There is a level of addiction playing out in many parts of our
00:04:45.460 city. It's happening at levels we really haven't seen in San Francisco. What I'm hearing from my
00:04:50.520 residents and what I'm hearing from San Franciscans is it's time for tough love. We are not doing any
00:04:55.640 addict in this city favors by enabling behavior that is potentially deadly in ways we have never
00:05:02.780 seen. Now in a statement to CNN, Walgreens says it is focused on safety and preventative measures,
00:05:09.160 but that retail theft remains one of its top challenges. Here's some important context though
00:05:15.700 on the city, Aaron. Property crime and violent crime at the end of last year was actually lower
00:05:21.540 than it was before the pandemic. So what's going on here? So first CNN trots out a city supervisor to
00:05:28.560 inform you that the causes of all this shoplifting are systemic, you know, sort of like racism in that
00:05:33.600 way. He's applying that there's no way to solve it. But of course, you should pay a lot of, you know,
00:05:38.100 consultants and government agencies a ton of money to try to solve it, even though it can't be solved
00:05:42.260 because it's systemic. That's what every bureaucrat means when they talk about systemic problems.
00:05:47.500 Systemic problems is really, that's just a job pro jobs program for, for bureaucrats in other words.
00:05:52.420 And then the CNN reporter comes back and she says that she's providing some important context. And
00:05:56.860 what is that context? Well, she says that property crime in San Francisco is lower than it was before
00:06:01.880 the pandemic. In other words, as bad as the footage you just saw might look overall, the city is doing
00:06:07.140 fine. The ice cream sandwiches might be locked away with chains and people are so brazen about stealing
00:06:12.840 they're doing it in front of news cameras. Still, the city is on the right trajectory. Everything is
00:06:17.720 fine. Nothing to see here. That's the message. Now, in the world of statistics, they have a few
00:06:23.600 terms for this, and one of them is non-response bias. Another is measurement bias. So if you're
00:06:29.520 looking at a chart of reported property crimes and it goes up and then up and up, and then suddenly it
00:06:34.940 goes down out of nowhere, a couple of things are possible. The first possibility, the one that CNN
00:06:39.320 implies is happening here is that people are committing fewer property crimes. Somehow the
00:06:44.200 criminals have decided on their own to stop doing crime. Even though they know they can easily get
00:06:49.400 away with it, they decided to just stop doing it. They've decided to become law-abiding citizens
00:06:53.340 out of the goodness of their hearts. Their hearts have all grown three sizes, like the Grinch
00:06:58.660 when he visited Whoville. The other possibility, though, is that maybe people have simply stopped
00:07:05.240 reporting property crimes because they know the police and the DA won't do anything about them?
00:07:11.360 Could that be happening in San Francisco? Despite the city's property crime statistics,
00:07:16.820 is it possible that property crime is actually increasing? Dick's Sporting Goods just provided
00:07:22.220 another data point to help us answer that question. Dick's has locations all over the country,
00:07:26.500 of course, and they just announced that property theft is costing them so much money that they're
00:07:31.460 now laying off a mass number of employees. The company says that profits dropped 23 percent last
00:07:38.340 quarter, which is a staggering amount, and they blame much of it on rampant shoplifting.
00:07:45.080 So when you hear that property crime is going down and then you see stories like that, you have to
00:07:49.820 wonder whether the statistics give you an accurate picture, especially when Dick's is far from the only
00:07:55.300 chain that has had to shut down locations, lay off employees because they keep losing so much
00:08:00.840 merchandise to theft. It's kind of like when influenza cases started to, went down basically to zero during
00:08:07.320 COVID. Is that because, as the experts said, influenza simply just stopped spreading somehow during the
00:08:13.660 pandemic? That's a comforting explanation, so it mainly went unchallenged. And most statistics from
00:08:21.580 the government are like this. They're technically correct, but wildly misleading. However, one government
00:08:29.160 statistic is very tough to fudge, no matter how hard politicians try, and it's the murder rate.
00:08:33.940 The government can lie and say that shoplifting is down, but it's challenging for them to lie about
00:08:38.800 murders because murders leave dead bodies. People talk about them. I mean, they usually get reported.
00:08:45.240 Coroners have to be dispatched to the scene and so on. Between 2019 and 2020, the homicide rate in the
00:08:51.020 United States increased by more than it did at any other point in modern history. Went up by 30%.
00:08:56.580 Following year, it increased again. Some of the country's most prominent tourist destinations have
00:09:02.600 become too dangerous for many people to visit. Last year, for example, New Orleans became the murder
00:09:07.280 capital of the United States, recording 52 homicides per 100,000 residents. Now, browse news reports on the
00:09:14.860 violent crime wave in this country, and invariably, you'll hear the same excuses. They'll tell you that COVID is
00:09:20.180 responsible for the murder rate. They'll do what the San Francisco city supervisor did and blame
00:09:24.940 systemic issues like policing. What they won't do is tell you that actually a real and immediate solution
00:09:33.620 to this problem is available. In El Salvador, under the leadership of Nayib Bukele, they have figured out
00:09:42.000 a solution. In 2018, the year before Bukele took office, El Salvador posted a murder rate of 51
00:09:48.180 per 100,000 people, which is the New Orleans rate. By 2022, the murder rate in the country had fallen to
00:09:55.160 7.8 per 100,000 people. That's 7.8, not 78. This chart that we have a chart here we can show you
00:10:03.800 that shows the magnitude of the decline. You can see that the murder rate was decreasing before
00:10:07.440 Bukele took over, but he took it to an unprecedented low level. I mean, this is a homicide rate now in El
00:10:14.820 Salvador that's significantly lower than what you'll find in several major American cities.
00:10:21.960 And these are not cooked numbers, okay? You know that because Nayib Bukele is overwhelmingly popular
00:10:27.220 in El Salvador. People know that murders are down. They know that they are safer in their communities
00:10:32.520 because they live in these communities. They don't need the government to tell them about it.
00:10:37.740 El Salvador accomplished this massive reduction in homicides, if you can believe it,
00:10:41.780 by doing something radical. They decided to start punishing criminals. Specifically,
00:10:47.420 Bukele implemented something called the Territorial Control Plan. And phase one of that plan
00:10:51.900 involved flooding high crime areas with heavily armed police officers. Many criminals with gang
00:10:57.240 affiliations, often indicated by their tattoos, which are often on their face, easy to see,
00:11:01.500 went to prison. Officials paraded them before cameras in a humiliation ritual.
00:11:06.520 This has been an integral part of El Salvador's strategy for years. Just a few months ago,
00:11:10.580 Bukele uploaded a video which shows gang members in one of the super prisons he's constructed
00:11:16.620 to house them, kind of showing you how it works in these prisons. And we'll play a quick clip of that.
00:11:21.500 Here it is.
00:11:21.900 Here it is.
00:11:51.500 So, seems like an unpleasant place to be. And El Salvador's government has not relented in the
00:12:00.680 past few years. In fact, this summer, El Salvador's Congress approved new rules allowing the trial of
00:12:05.480 up to 900 gang members simultaneously to expedite the otherwise slow-moving judicial process.
00:12:10.800 Now, in some publications, including the National Review and various left-wing outlets,
00:12:16.240 you'll find alternative explanations for how Bukele lowered the murder rate so quickly. And one
00:12:21.180 popular theory is that all these harsh measures are not reducing crime. Instead, the theory goes,
00:12:27.420 Bukele struck a secret deal with the gangs that convinced them to stop committing crimes.
00:12:31.980 And there's some truth to that. Bukele did indeed try to negotiate a truce with
00:12:35.100 the MS-13 and other gangs. But as CNN reported last year, citing an expert in Central American
00:12:40.320 affairs, quote, there are some consensus among security watchers that Bukele's truce
00:12:44.460 with the gangs fell apart in late March 2022, which prompted the MS-16 to do the killing spree
00:12:50.040 to pressure the government to give concessions. So, Bukele's latest crackdown followed the breakdown
00:12:55.600 in negotiations. And still, violent crime remains low. The crackdown has saved lives. There's no
00:13:01.780 question about it. Other Central American leaders are now looking to model El Salvador's approach.
00:13:08.040 There's no question about that either. The only remaining question is whether saving these lives
00:13:14.020 and restoring order to society and making communities livable again is worth a few sacrifices.
00:13:21.680 Most notably, is it worth sacrificing some of what we in modern Western society consider to be
00:13:28.740 humane standards for imprisonment? Is it worth sacrificing some of those standards?
00:13:35.900 In response to that question, the media has answered unanimously in the negative. The Sun,
00:13:40.020 for example, just published a lengthy piece lamenting the conditions in El Salvador's prisons.
00:13:45.320 Inmates are crammed together like sardines, the Sun says, quote,
00:13:48.340 In each 100-square-meter cell, around 75 crammed inmates sleep on metal cabins and are forced to
00:13:53.900 share just two toilets and two sinks. Several other outlets have run similar stories in recent days,
00:13:59.680 talking about how terrible it is in these prisons in El Salvador, how it's all a human rights violation.
00:14:04.320 Here's the BBC, for example. Watch.
00:14:06.840 Relatives of those detained have been desperately trying to find out what's happened to them.
00:14:12.160 I saw the video on Facebook and I was going through it, pausing and rewinding.
00:14:17.940 He was almost unrecognizable, so very thin. I only knew it was him by his tattoos.
00:14:24.060 Angelica says her husband has no links with gangs. She's heard nothing further about him since he was
00:14:30.220 arrested under emergency powers brought in in March 2022 by President Bukele.
00:14:36.120 Through satellite imagery, data released by the Salvadoran government and documents seen by BBC
00:14:43.840 Mundo, we've gathered information about the site.
00:14:48.240 There are eight cell blocks monitored by 19 watchtowers.
00:14:53.980 Inside the cells, the beds are metal plates and there are two toilets open to the room.
00:14:59.380 So far, the authorities say they have transferred 4,000 prisoners to the jail and that there is
00:15:06.740 capacity for up to 40,000. The BBC has found that at full capacity, each person would have
00:15:14.000 0.58 square meters of space. The International Committee of the Red Cross recommends 3.4 square
00:15:21.540 meters in a shared cell. Okay, so this prison does not live up to the standards of the Red Cross or the
00:15:27.580 U.N. or any Western human rights watchdog group. It's very, very uncomfortable to be in prison in
00:15:34.320 El Salvador right now. So uncomfortable, in fact, that it might even make you think twice about joining
00:15:39.420 a gang in that country to begin with, which is obviously the point. Now, with that said, we hear
00:15:44.060 from someone in the clip who claims that at least one of the inmates, her husband, has no connection
00:15:48.900 to gangs. He's an innocent man caught up in the crackdown, caught up in the net. And we have no way of
00:15:54.640 assessing whether that story is true, obviously. We don't know. Is this person innocent or guilty?
00:15:58.800 How do we know? But if we're being honest, we probably can assume that some nonviolent people,
00:16:06.420 even some innocent people, have been caught unwittingly in this net. Some of them may be
00:16:10.380 innocent. True. Anytime the government assumes emergency powers and arrests more than 70,000
00:16:15.600 people without ensuring their due process rights, it's bound to happen. And yes, it's almost certainly
00:16:20.720 true that many of these inmates live in conditions that would make Amnesty International extremely
00:16:25.640 squeamish. There's no reason to paper over that. But that's not where the discussion ends or where
00:16:31.360 it should end. The question that follows is a simple one, though it's rarely discussed. And the
00:16:35.420 question is this. Would you rather have a safe society where a few innocent people are imprisoned,
00:16:40.740 or would you rather have a very dangerous society where only a few guilty people are imprisoned?
00:16:46.340 Ben Franklin famously answered a version of the question. He said, it's better for 100 guilty
00:16:52.180 persons to escape than one innocent person to suffer. And we hear people repeat this mantra
00:16:58.200 unthinkingly all the time. But Ben Franklin didn't address what happens when all those guilty people
00:17:04.780 get out of prison and make it impossible for innocent people to live their lives. What happens when
00:17:09.760 allowing guilty persons to escape means that innocent people can't start businesses or use the subway or go
00:17:15.500 to the store, walk down the street, or guarantee the safety of their children? What happens when
00:17:21.740 letting the guilty go free means letting them randomly assault elderly people or carjack women at the
00:17:27.560 stoplight or execute gas station cashiers for the few dollars in the cash register? That's unfolding
00:17:35.960 now in major cities all across the country. It's happening so often that CNN is capturing it on camera
00:17:41.360 unintentionally. This is not the high trust society that existed in the 19th century.
00:17:47.300 When Barack Obama was in office, he made a habit of calling difficult decisions, quote, false choices.
00:17:53.260 He said that we should, for example, reject the, quote, false choice between our security and our ideals.
00:17:59.720 But the truth is that there are hard choices to be made when weighing our security against our ideals.
00:18:05.140 This is not a false choice. There are actual trade-offs you have to make.
00:18:11.280 There's no sense in lying about it. As Richard Hanania pointed out recently on his Substack,
00:18:16.540 sometimes a slavish devotion to ideals gets a lot of people killed, and it ruins livelihoods.
00:18:22.500 Nobody wants to talk about that, but it's true.
00:18:24.220 And as more criminals act with total impunity, it's getting hard to ignore. Besides,
00:18:29.640 the other point here is that nobody can claim that they really have a zero tolerance for,
00:18:35.040 you know, for example, innocent people going to prison. We like to say that, well, we can't allow
00:18:39.260 a single innocent person to go to prison. Because the only way to bring that number down to zero
00:18:43.640 is to have no prisons at all. If you have any kind of prison system, there's going to be that kind
00:18:49.360 of unintended consequence. Regardless, it's going to happen. And we all accept that tacitly. We have
00:18:54.960 to, or we cannot have a civilization. But we're currently in the process of losing our civilization,
00:19:02.000 and it's in part because modern Western people have a totally upside-down view of these kinds of
00:19:07.540 trade-offs. Or they're so naive that they think that we can have no trade-offs. But that's not the
00:19:13.940 case. You can't get around it. Either you emphasize justice, social order, and punishing
00:19:19.880 criminals, and you deal with the collateral damage that comes with this harsher and more brutal
00:19:24.900 approach. Or you emphasize tolerance and acceptance and rehabilitation and forgiveness,
00:19:30.540 and you deal with the collateral damage that comes with that. You will get the collateral damage
00:19:34.060 either way. There's no way around it. In the former case, it means that you'll have a safer and more
00:19:38.300 orderly society where people can live their lives and your children can walk outside without fear.
00:19:42.500 But criminals will be made very uncomfortable and will be treated in ways that are sometimes quite
00:19:48.320 ugly. And in the latter case, criminals will be more comfortable, and prisons will not be such an
00:19:53.780 ugly place. But your communities will be unlivable cesspools. As I've said before, there will be
00:20:00.000 ugliness in society no matter what. You can choose to contain it in prison, or you can let it loose on
00:20:05.700 the streets. You will have it, the ugliness, whether you like it or not. The question is, where do you
00:20:10.100 want it? In prison or outside your front door? El Salvador's solution is not ideal. I mean, you'd
00:20:16.640 prefer if your country didn't need to have super prisons with tens of thousands of violent gangsters
00:20:21.020 in them. Nobody would call that an ideal situation. Certainly not naive and Kelly. At a certain point,
00:20:26.960 though, it becomes necessary because the alternative is even worse. If our leaders don't have the stomach
00:20:31.820 to punish criminals now, then down the line, they'll be replaced by people who do. That's the lesson of
00:20:37.100 El Salvador. We can either learn from it, or we can keep repeating the same mistakes. The choice is
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00:21:56.740 for full offer details. So the first GOP primary debate is tonight as we officially get into
00:22:03.440 my least favorite season as a conservative commentator. I'm something of an aberration
00:22:09.700 in my community, as you probably know if you listen to the show. Most of my peers, you know,
00:22:13.520 they live for election seasons, debates, presidential elections. They're very excited about it because
00:22:20.420 that's the sweet spot, you know, in this world normally. I'm exactly the opposite. I find this stuff
00:22:25.960 sort of boring, to be honest. Analyzing debate performances and reading polling data. It's all
00:22:32.800 tedious to me, but here we are anyway. And of course, the big controversy going into the debates
00:22:37.660 is that Trump won't be attending. We talked about this a few days ago, and I already made my point
00:22:43.420 that I, well, I basically agree with both sides. So I'm, not to take the cop-out approach, but I can
00:22:48.960 see where both sides are coming from. And on the one hand, you know, there are those who say that
00:22:54.300 Trump should debate, that it's, it's wimpish not to. You owe it to the voters to get up there and
00:23:00.680 answer questions and, and, and allow yourself to be scrutinized. That's just, you should do it. You
00:23:07.400 should, you should put yourself in that position. You owe it to the voters. The fact that Trump was
00:23:11.820 already in office, that, that doesn't mean that he doesn't need to debate. That means all the more
00:23:15.260 that he should debate because he has a record that needs to be defended and he needs to answer
00:23:19.900 questions about it, especially about what happened in the final year of his tenure when the country
00:23:24.380 was handed over to Fauci and BLM. And so he needs to be there and he needs to talk about it. So I get
00:23:29.040 that. And I understand that. And I, and I can see where that side's coming from. On the other hand,
00:23:34.680 though, from a political perspective, the people on the other side of this will say that, well, Trump
00:23:37.980 doesn't stand to gain much from, from debating. I mean, debating, it's, it's a political decision.
00:23:42.980 Debating is a political activity. It's, it's, it's, it's all about politics, obviously.
00:23:49.120 And, um, so you're not going to put yourself in a position and running a campaign is all about
00:23:53.340 politics, obviously, by definition. So you're not going to put yourself in a position if it's,
00:23:57.520 if it's going to be politically, uh, not useful to you and potentially dangerous and, and, and
00:24:02.100 harmful. And when you think about Trump being so far ahead in the polls already and being such a
00:24:09.500 known entity, you put them up there on the stage, he probably potentially stands to lose more than
00:24:15.160 he would gain. Um, now sure, he, he dominated the primary debates in 2015, but that was as a
00:24:23.420 newcomer and an outsider and kind of a novelty. It's nearly a decade later now, and it's just not
00:24:29.520 going to be the same. Um, so to stand up there and allow the other candidates to take shots at him
00:24:35.920 or to use him to prop themselves up or whatever else they do while he's already so far ahead in
00:24:41.280 the polls. I mean, that's like politically foolish. Why would you do it? And, uh, and I get that. I
00:24:45.880 think it's a solid argument. Of course, there's the downside. There's the political downside. Most
00:24:52.040 of the people that are insisting that Trump should be there at the debate, they're making kind of a
00:24:55.020 principle that argument that just in forget about the politics in principle, you should be there.
00:24:59.180 It's the right thing to do, but that's just, that's not the reality. Okay. It's, it's all about
00:25:03.880 politics. It's not about principle. And that's just the fact of the matter. Um, but there's also
00:25:08.520 the political downside, as I mentioned a couple of days ago, which is that potentially significant.
00:25:14.440 It's not nothing that Biden in the general election will certainly want to skip the debates.
00:25:22.520 And if you've already skipped all of, all of your primary debates, which is what Trump is
00:25:26.600 implying he's going to do, then you just, you're not going to be in a position to complain when your
00:25:32.400 opponent does the same thing on the same pretense. I mean, you can complain and the Trump camp
00:25:38.240 obviously will. I mean, you're not going to just let Biden get away with skipping the debates.
00:25:41.260 You're going to criticize him for it. And you're going to hope that most people don't remember
00:25:44.660 the fact that the recent history of you skipping all of your debates. So you're going to do it.
00:25:48.480 But I think your, your arguments, uh, your complaints will, will ring hollow, uh, in a lot of
00:25:53.460 ways. That's the political downside, but ultimately I think politically the right move is for him
00:25:58.600 not to debate. And that's, that's where I come down. I can see both sides, but, and, and here's,
00:26:02.200 here's the way you look at it. You know, and I'm, I'm a simple person. I look at these things very
00:26:06.020 simply. Uh, you always have to ask yourself, what do your opponents want you to do?
00:26:16.100 And then most of the time you should be doing the opposite of that. Okay. If you're doing something
00:26:20.220 that your opponents want you to do, if it's something that your opponents will look at and
00:26:24.380 they'll be very happy that you're doing it, it's probably not a good idea. And I'm not saying that
00:26:29.120 you make all of your political decisions in this, in this reactive kind of way, but, but this could
00:26:34.480 be, it could be illuminating to think of it in those terms. And I say the same thing. This is the
00:26:38.560 case in political campaigns. It's the same thing in, in, on a broader cultural level, right versus
00:26:45.260 left, you know, in our battle for the culture, we should always think about, you know, if we're
00:26:49.380 approaching something, if we're fighting an issue in a certain way, is this how the other side wants
00:26:54.740 us to fight it? Are they happy that we're doing it this way and not some other way? Uh, and in this
00:27:00.240 case, if, if the Trump camp is asking themselves this question, like, what do our opponents want
00:27:03.940 us to do? Do they want us to be there or do they, or, or, uh, or would they prefer for us to skip it?
00:27:10.160 I think there's no question that Trump's opponents want him on the stage. They want him to be there.
00:27:15.680 And if they all want you to be there, it's not because they, they are looking out for you and
00:27:21.200 your best interest is because it's in their best interest for you to be there, which means that if
00:27:25.200 you want to win, then the smart thing is to not be there because that's what they want. Um,
00:27:31.580 the only, the only question now is without Trump at the debate, um, given that he's the front runner
00:27:40.560 and a far, far away, the front runner, can any of the other debate participants, uh,
00:27:48.000 are they going to be able to do anything to separate themselves from the pack? Can they have
00:27:52.540 any, can this have any real effect on the polls when the front runner isn't even there? Um, and I'm,
00:27:57.560 I'm very skeptical of that. Uh, yesterday we talked about Biden visiting Maui and the fact that it was a,
00:28:05.200 it was a disaster. Uh, it's, it's a disaster zone already. And then it's a disaster on top of disaster
00:28:12.480 when would Biden visits there and just makes an absolute fool of himself. I mean, to start with
00:28:17.820 getting there two weeks late after saying almost nothing about this issue for two weeks, in fact,
00:28:22.660 saying no comment, he doesn't want to talk about, ask about the, the, the, the victims of the fire.
00:28:27.640 He says, no comment. He's on vacation. He doesn't care. Finally, he finally moseys over there
00:28:31.580 two weeks later. And we played some of the clips yesterday that, that, that will live in infamy or
00:28:36.080 at least should. And in particular, the one where Biden compares this fire where more than a thousand
00:28:45.160 people have likely died, many of them children to his small kitchen fire, you know, 20 years ago.
00:28:51.880 So the whole thing, any, any objective observer who, who saw this, look at Biden's performance and say,
00:28:58.580 this is just horrendous. Uh, but that's not how CNN saw it because these are not objective
00:29:05.560 observers. Obviously here's how they interpreted the events. Let's watch a little bit of this
00:29:08.560 president and Dr. Biden spent several hours, both over Lahaina on the ground here and meeting with
00:29:16.300 both first responders and victims of this tragedy at the big shelter, the war memorial shelter in central
00:29:21.780 Maui. And he said the right things in many cases. When he came to the microphone to give his
00:29:27.480 statements, he said the thing that a lot of folks I've been hearing from for two weeks have been
00:29:31.800 saying that he wants Maui, the people of Maui to help determine how this place is rebuilt.
00:29:37.960 There was a question as to who will have the most influence in that conversation going forward.
00:29:43.220 Locals here, working class native Hawaiians and multi-generational locals are worried of disaster
00:29:48.820 capitalism, people moving in to exploit this and buy up as much land as they can in this paradise and
00:29:54.640 rebuild it, uh, for their interests as well. The president says promises that that won't happen.
00:30:00.820 It remains to be seen. There's a lot of forces at play here right now. He did serve as empathizer
00:30:06.300 in chief after five days of being mostly silent on the issue publicly, but the governor said he was
00:30:11.400 working behind the scenes to assure first responders that the feds had their back on this. Uh, he shared
00:30:17.740 this. So I just wanted to get to that line at the, at the end there. He says, uh, Biden was the
00:30:23.340 empathizer in chief. This is, this is empathy. Uh, is Biden comparing the worst wildfire in a hundred
00:30:31.220 years and talking to the, the, the victims and the families and comparing it to his kitchen fire.
00:30:37.060 That is empathy. They say, uh, when of course it's obviously the exact opposite of empathy because
00:30:44.480 Joe Biden is the exact opposite of an empathetic guy. He's only thinking about yourself. Okay.
00:30:50.540 Uh, being able to understand someone's suffering and let them know that you understand it and caring
00:31:00.900 about it like that is empathy. Relating everything back to yourself is not empathy. At least if that's
00:31:08.780 where the, it ends like in empathy, you, you, you, you, you can relate, but then it goes back. It goes
00:31:14.780 back to the, the person you're relating to it's for their sake. It's right. It's to comfort them.
00:31:22.540 Uh, Biden has one part of that process. He relates it back to himself, but then it stops there. He just,
00:31:26.940 he just brings it always back to himself, not in a way that comforts those who are suffering,
00:31:32.700 uh, not in a way that, that, that helps them to understand that they, that he understands what
00:31:36.360 they're going through. Not at all. Again, it's the exact opposite. When you relate it back to
00:31:41.620 yourself and you say, you know, it's, I'm looking at the devastation here. It reminds me of the time,
00:31:44.940 uh, when there was a brief, uh, kitchen fire, I had a grease fire in my kitchen once,
00:31:48.980 you know, we were cooking up some, uh, some bacon and there was a little, little, uh, grease fire
00:31:55.220 through a wet rag on it, went out. It was a little scary for a second. That's what I think of when I,
00:32:00.060 when I see billions of dollars of damage and a thousand people lost.
00:32:06.360 When you say that, that what that conveys is that you don't understand their suffering at all
00:32:12.860 because you're making that kind of comparison and you bring it always back to yourself.
00:32:16.940 Speaking of not being empathetic, there's a video that's circulating
00:32:19.240 of Biden appearing to fall asleep during a, uh, a ceremony to honor the victims of the wildfire.
00:32:26.560 He's sitting there. And the funny thing is that that was the video that went viral. He seems to be
00:32:30.440 sitting there kind of falling asleep, nodding off. He's there's someone talking about losing.
00:32:34.000 You can hear in the audio, someone's talking about losing their home. Everything's burned
00:32:37.220 up and destroyed. Someone talking about the terrible misfortunes that they've suffered
00:32:40.720 through. And you see Biden just kind of staring down at his desk and breathing heavy. And it looks
00:32:46.300 very much like he's asleep. Now some media came along, NBC news, for example, had a clip that they
00:32:52.440 put out. They said, no, we can prove he's not actually falling asleep. And they had a high res,
00:32:56.940 high resolution video where you could see, look, you can see the whites of his eyes. His eyes are still
00:33:00.820 open. He's not actually sleeping. So we debunked that. But of course these people don't, uh, understand
00:33:09.500 that that doesn't make it any better. Okay. The fact that you can't tell if Biden is awake or asleep,
00:33:19.000 that's not a good thing. That doesn't make it look better. You need to bring out a high resolution
00:33:25.560 video to detect the whites in his eyes in order to know whether he's asleep or not.
00:33:30.680 The fact that you can't, him being awake looks identical to him being asleep, aside from eyes
00:33:37.680 being open or closed. That's not a good thing. Hey, he might not have been technically asleep,
00:33:43.700 but that's because he's just always asleep. His brain is in permanent sleep mode.
00:33:47.340 And, uh, I don't consider that a positive necessarily. All right, let's see. Uh, this
00:33:54.500 is from the Daily Wire. A federal district court sided with a Michigan farmer on Monday,
00:33:58.660 ruling that he is free to participate in a city run farmer's market after he was booted over his
00:34:02.720 Catholic views on marriage. Steve Tennis, who owns Country Mill Farms, was banned in 2017 from East
00:34:10.060 Lansing farmer's market by city officials after he posted on Facebook that he follows the Catholic
00:34:15.320 Church's teachings on marriage, which includes opposing same-sex weddings at his family's
00:34:19.340 orchard. East Lansing officials reacted by using a discretionary system of individual assessments
00:34:23.860 to ban Tennis and his farm from participating in the seasonal market, despite Tennis never receiving
00:34:29.100 any complaints from customers, his legal team said. Tennis and his farm sued the city of East Lansing
00:34:33.660 in, uh, 2017. On Monday, U.S. District Judge Paul Maloney ruled that the city's ban on tennis
00:34:40.100 constituted a burden on plaintiff's religious beliefs. Tennis and his farm were forced to choose
00:34:45.540 between following their religious beliefs and a government, uh, benefit for which they were
00:34:49.940 otherwise qualified. And it took all of these years, but they have finally got the correct ruling
00:34:57.100 on that, that this was a discrimination. I think this is a, in fact, this case is instructive and it
00:35:03.860 gives us a handy contrast. Um, because this is what actual discrimination looks like. We hear this
00:35:10.500 phrase discrimination all the time. Many people are always claiming to be discriminated against
00:35:15.040 and it makes you wonder, what does it actually look? Is everyone really just being discriminated
00:35:19.060 against all the time? Or, uh, do we have a, do we have a, do we need to adjust our view of what
00:35:24.620 discrimination is? Um, and what we find is that this actual illegal discrimination, like this is the
00:35:33.780 kind that Christians face in the real world, in this country all the time. Um, it's not the kind
00:35:40.180 that LGBT people face. That's almost always fake discrimination. And here's the contrast. So let's
00:35:47.540 take, you know, LGBT people claim one of the most famous cases, recent cases, modern cases of an
00:35:54.380 LGBT of gay man claiming to be discriminated against is of course the masterpiece cake shop case
00:35:58.580 where they wanted to the cake made for their wedding and they were turned down. And then you
00:36:04.520 have that and let's compare that to this case where the Christian is banned from the farmer's market.
00:36:09.380 On the one hand, you have, uh, a, a Catholic farmer banned by the local government from a farmer's
00:36:20.840 market as opposed to a gay couple who are told that they're not going to get a custom cake.
00:36:28.300 A couple of differences. First, government entity versus, versus a private entity. So this is the,
00:36:35.100 the local government in Michigan saying that you're not allowed to attend the farmer's market because
00:36:40.660 we don't agree with your views, uh, versus a private entity, a, a cake shop saying, we don't want
00:36:48.120 to serve you this particular cake. Second, you have someone who's banned from participating in
00:36:55.140 something based on their beliefs that banned completely say, you're not allowed here, go away.
00:37:01.420 Versus, uh, in the case of masterpiece cake shop and many other similar cases, uh, the gay couple,
00:37:09.160 they weren't banned from the store. They were never told, get out of the store. We don't serve your kind
00:37:13.060 here. You're not allowed to be in the store. We won't serve you anything. No, they were told,
00:37:16.880 well, well, you can be in the store. You can shop around. In fact, we will sell you anything in this
00:37:23.240 store right now. Look around the store. There's all the pre-made cakes and everything. You look
00:37:27.140 around, you can have any of it. You can buy all of it if you want, if you have the money.
00:37:31.600 We just can't custom make a cake for this particular purpose of a gay wedding.
00:37:39.660 There's a very obvious distinction there, which goes to the third difference, which is
00:37:44.180 on one hand, you have discrimination against a belief system. Again, it's the local government
00:37:50.680 saying you believe these things. We find those beliefs abhorrent and therefore you're not allowed
00:37:56.040 here. Pretty clear cut discrimination. Shouldn't have taken six years to get the correct ruling on
00:38:01.640 that case. Okay. That should be, that should be a case that lasts about 30 minutes because if that's
00:38:06.700 not illegal discrimination, then the concept means nothing. On the other hand, you have,
00:38:15.100 if there's any kind of discrimination, it is discrimination against inactivity.
00:38:19.920 So it's not the gay men themselves who were discriminated against because they were never
00:38:24.380 told you're gay, you're not allowed here. Instead, you had the owner of this private company saying,
00:38:31.260 we don't agree with that activity, with that particular event, and we don't want to be
00:38:36.340 involved in that event, in that activity, which is a gay wedding. Very clear differences there that I
00:38:43.520 think any reasonable person could see. All right, finally, before we get to the comment section,
00:38:49.780 Bud Light is still trying to salvage its brand, trying to move on. And they have their latest attempt
00:38:57.800 here. And every attempt is very funny because they put out a new ad, a new campaign,
00:39:02.120 and they always put it, I don't even know why they bother putting the stuff on social media anymore,
00:39:05.180 but they do. And I'm glad that they do because then it's always a lot of fun to read the comments
00:39:09.240 and they're just getting ripped apart for it. So they've teamed up with the Washington Redskins,
00:39:12.720 who are still the Washington Redskins, as far as I'm concerned. And they've made this very fun
00:39:16.800 commercial to try to, you know, try to reset the brand. And here it is. Let's watch.
00:39:27.800 All right. So there, there it is. All I'm going to say is that first of all, if you're trying to
00:39:46.860 be seen, if you're trying not to be seen as the gay beer, then that's not the way to do it. That's
00:39:52.500 the opposite of what you want to do. Uh, you, we, we want to see football players like,
00:39:58.480 uh, you know, we want to see hard hits tackling, giving each other concussions like that. That's
00:40:04.020 what, if you really want to reset the brand, if you want to have any hope of it, then that's what
00:40:07.600 it would be. Uh, instead you've got football players. Okay. That part's fine, but they're all
00:40:12.240 just dancing. It really doesn't matter. Cause it's hopeless for Bud Light. It just is. Their
00:40:17.640 brand is forever tarnished. Um, you know what it's like for the, you know what Bud Light is at this
00:40:22.220 point? I think the best analogy is Bud Light is basically like the kid in middle school
00:40:28.360 who pees his pants in class. And, and, and that's what they are because there's no coming back from
00:40:34.840 it. Right. The kid who pees his pants in class is always going to be that kid. There's just nothing
00:40:39.800 you can't, you will always be seen that way. There's nothing you can do. You can move schools
00:40:45.040 or something and change your name, but that's the only, that's the only way. And it's kind of like
00:40:50.200 that for Bud Light. They're just the kid who peed his pants in class. It's like forever. Anytime
00:40:53.940 anyone sees a Bud Light, they just can't help but laugh anymore. It's a, it's an automatic
00:40:58.340 instinctive reaction that people have because your brand has been that tarnished. So what's the
00:41:04.040 equivalent for Bud Light? I mean, at least if you're in that position, you can change schools.
00:41:07.180 How does Bud Light change schools as it were? Uh, I don't know. They really can't. I mean,
00:41:12.180 honestly, just complete rename. That's one thing they could do is rename the beer. It's the exact
00:41:18.740 same beer, exact same company. Give it a different name. Honest to God, that's their one hope. Their
00:41:24.400 one chance. That's not going to fool me. I'm not going to buy Bud Lights. I never would have bought
00:41:27.920 them anyway, but I'm still not going to. Uh, but I think, you know, fast forward another year or
00:41:33.020 something. I think that's what we'll be looking at. That's their only hope is just give it a different
00:41:36.220 name. And, uh, and then most people, then maybe it won't have that. At least give, give your
00:41:44.240 customers a chance. Like there are people out there that for whatever reason, enjoyed Bud Light
00:41:47.580 and, uh, and, but they're not going to buy it and walk around holding it because they know they're
00:41:56.500 going to, everyone's going to make fun of them. And so there's just, no, they're not going to do it.
00:42:01.760 If you want to have any chance and you have to allow whoever your potential customers would be
00:42:06.660 to like purchase it and not be mocked ruthlessly for it, which probably means you just need to change
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00:43:30.020 Giggly says, uh, how this decaying hollow shell of a human being is allowed to get in front of
00:43:37.400 cameras and speak publicly anymore is beyond me. Are you talking about me or Biden? I'm gonna assume
00:43:43.480 you're talking about Biden. Well, it was, that was a comment under the Biden video. So we'll go with
00:43:47.620 that. Uh, Julie says the lack of empathy disgusts me. No wonder residents are angry, shouting profanity
00:43:53.300 at elected officials. That was the one encouraging thing about that video play yesterday. The mayor,
00:43:58.680 um, uh, I believe it was the mayor in Maui County said, was refusing to answer questions about how
00:44:05.560 many people had been lost, how many children are lost. Uh, and that is all very terrible. The one
00:44:11.180 encouraging thing to me is just the utter disrespect that the people were, including the media,
00:44:17.860 heaping on this elected official, the total contempt for him, which I, which I think is
00:44:24.220 exactly the right attitude to have to politician towards politicians like that. And really probably
00:44:29.620 all politicians. I think it'd be a good thing if we felt that way about all politicians. If that was
00:44:33.700 our instinct, if we had an instinctive disgust for all politicians, uh, I think that we'd be in a much
00:44:41.400 better spot. Another comment says, dude, I live on big Island and, uh, I swear to God, this is one of
00:44:47.540 the worst things I've ever seen. I'm not a big Matt Walsh fan, but everything he said was wildly
00:44:50.940 accurate. Uh, the mismanagement, the deflection, the lack of care, the lack of attention paid to
00:44:56.160 survivors, the lack of attention and care paid to the people who lost their loved ones and children.
00:45:00.740 Everything about it is atrocious. My friend told me that she was trying to, uh, get out days later
00:45:05.640 and they wouldn't let her. The local government trapped her in a town with no water or food. And even
00:45:10.000 now it's difficult for residents to access, but there are subjective reports of homeless encampments and
00:45:14.400 looters taking advantage of the empty homes. The whole thing is egregious and terrifying and sincerely
00:45:18.980 makes me want to leave my home. It's one of these things that can't be forgiven or forgotten. I just
00:45:24.260 pray that people see the reconstruction of their town in a way that feels good for them. Don't donate
00:45:28.540 to the Red Cross or FEMA, although I'm sure people on here know that already. Yeah, I've heard many,
00:45:33.800 many stories like this from people who actually live, uh, and have seen the, the devastation
00:45:38.360 firsthand. And a lot of this is, is certainly not just the case in Hawaii, but so much of this is
00:45:47.620 that we are not electing serious and competent people. Putting aside all the political bias and
00:45:53.720 everything else, we're just not electing serious, competent people. And then the problem with that
00:46:00.400 is that when something serious inevitably happens, because we live in the, in the real world and
00:46:06.560 terrible things happen, well, now you have these unserious morons who are tasked with dealing with
00:46:12.800 it. Perfect example is that the water official, the guy in charge of the water talking about in an
00:46:18.940 interview before the fires happened, talking about, uh, you know, the importance of water and
00:46:24.820 ancestral traditions and dispensing water in an equitable way. The thing with that is, you know,
00:46:31.680 again, there's been this connection people have drawn. They've, they've, we know that, that water
00:46:36.160 was held up. People needed water to fight the fires and it was held up. And a lot of people online are
00:46:41.040 kind of making the connection that they held it up because of some sort of equity concern, because we
00:46:45.520 heard this from this water official before. And I think that's a fair theory. We don't know for sure.
00:46:52.340 We actually don't know exactly why the water was held up, but that's almost this, that's a secondary
00:46:59.840 point. Almost. The first point is whatever the reasons were, this was just an unserious person
00:47:06.180 put in a position to be in charge of, you know, dispensing this necessary, you know, this necessity,
00:47:16.100 which is water. Uh, and so a lot of this just felt inevitable. Let's see. J man says, Matt,
00:47:24.120 you don't get to tell me what I mean by my own words. Also, Matt, I've decided that my interpretation
00:47:29.040 of a small part of the lyrics means that the entire song is about a nanny sexually molesting Freddie
00:47:33.360 as an infant. I love you, Matt, but even you are dense at times. Well, I hate to say this J man,
00:47:39.540 but this is what you've said here is, uh, it's pretty much the definition of being dense, uh,
00:47:46.120 and intentionally. So like, let, let's just go. So I know maybe you're a queen fan. Maybe you like
00:47:51.560 the song fat bottom girls. Maybe you've already been, I don't know. Maybe you've already been on
00:47:54.780 social media posting about how, uh, they've been canceled and this is so terrible because you saw
00:47:59.120 the rage bait on Fox news. And so now you're a little bit embarrassed because as I pointed out in
00:48:03.340 the show yesterday, the whole story about queen getting canceled was fake. And so maybe you're
00:48:07.580 embarrassed by that. So you feel like you have to grasp for some sort of way out, but you don't
00:48:13.260 have to do that. You really don't. You can just admit like a lot of people, including people I
00:48:16.620 respect on the right, they got this story wrong. They heard from Fox news and some of these outlets
00:48:20.900 that queen's been canceled. It's political, it's political correctness overboard. And they didn't
00:48:24.420 look into it. They didn't look into what the story actually was. They didn't, they didn't realize
00:48:27.600 that no, they haven't been canceled at all. They just, they just didn't put this one particular
00:48:31.240 song on an audio platform for three-year-olds. And they also didn't look into to see what the song
00:48:36.620 actually is, what it's about. And so many people made that mistake. I think it's better just to
00:48:41.760 admit it. I told you what the lyrics are. I mean, again, the lyrics, I was just a skinny lad, never
00:48:48.120 knew no good from bad, but I knew life before I left my nursery, left alone with big fat Fanny.
00:48:54.400 She was such a naughty nanny. He big woman. You made a bad boy out of me. What, what is your
00:48:59.980 interpretation of that? How do you interpret it? To me, it seems very clear that it's about a
00:49:07.160 overweight nanny molesting a child in the nursery. It's like, that's what it is. That's what he's
00:49:11.600 talking about. Okay. I don't know what to tell you as I wish that wasn't the case. I wish that's
00:49:16.500 not what the song was about, but it's what it's about. It's right there. I didn't make those lyrics
00:49:19.720 up. I didn't make them up. Queen made them up. They're right there. So what is your, what,
00:49:25.340 just tell me, how do you interpret that? Okay. I don't need to read between the lines or turn
00:49:30.380 the thing upside down and read it backwards to get this interpretation. You have to do that to not
00:49:34.460 get this interpretation. So what are you going to do? Is this, you know, it's a metaphor. It's a
00:49:39.460 poetic license. It's a metaphor. You see, the nursery is not literally a nursery. It's a metaphor for,
00:49:45.540 I don't know, big fat Fanny. That's the nanny. Well, she's not really the nanny. It's,
00:49:51.100 you know, she's a metaphorical nanny. Come on. And once you understand something like
00:49:57.780 so much of the music that is considered, oh, the classics, these are the classics from the 60s
00:50:04.500 and 70s. There's a lot of this kind of stuff. As I said yesterday, so much of it is just degenerate
00:50:10.340 garbage. It just is. And it has the reputation of a classic now simply because it's been around a long
00:50:17.320 time. This is not a great song. It just happened to be made 50 years ago. It doesn't make it good
00:50:23.160 now. Finally, Emily says, cancel culture is something that you take part in, Matt Walsh.
00:50:29.160 Think Target, Bud Lay, slavery, rainbows, books, et cetera. Slavery. I mean, sure, I cancel slavery.
00:50:36.660 Yeah, but I don't know why you would. Anyway, you're saying it's not canceled because you would be
00:50:40.700 the one canceling it. No, I think you're mistaken, Emily, that, well, I mean, you're not mistaken.
00:50:48.360 You're right. I do cancel all those things. I want all those things to be canceled. And,
00:50:53.120 well, not books in general, but you forgot to mention, I'm not in favor of canceling books in
00:51:00.080 general, but in particular, gay pornography books in schools is what we've talked about canceling.
00:51:05.820 So you need to be more specific there. But I have never said that there's anything wrong with
00:51:12.000 canceling something. I have a whole segment called the Daily Cancellation. There's nothing wrong with
00:51:17.100 that. Okay. It's what you're canceling. It's what you're going after. Trying to shut something down,
00:51:25.360 impose some sort of social penalty on it, publicly shame something or someone. I'm not opposed to any of
00:51:32.840 that. I never said I was. What I'm opposed to is picking the wrong people and targets for that kind
00:51:41.400 of treatment. That's my issue. So should we cancel people? Should we cancel things? Yes. If they
00:51:48.360 actually deserve it. Sure. Why not? Of course we should. Seems pretty simple to me. Despite the
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00:52:32.740 The website Vox has an urgent report this week. The headline from writer Alex Abad Santos tells us,
00:52:40.340 quote, people forgot how to act in public, which of course raises the question, when did people ever
00:52:45.060 know how to act in public? What do you mean they forgot? Did they ever know? But we'll get back to
00:52:49.320 that in a moment. Here's how the piece begins. Some people shouldn't be out in public right now.
00:52:53.920 Movie theaters have become a lawless land where some moviegoers have no reservations about using their
00:52:58.300 phones after films have started. Sometimes it's not just a glance at the time, but full-on social
00:53:02.760 media scrolls and posting. In New York City, Broadway audiences are drunk, rowdy, and apparently leaving
00:53:07.600 feces in the aisles of theaters. This summer at various concerts, Albanian pop star Bebe Rekse,
00:53:14.680 Bebe Rekse, is that what it is? Was, okay, close enough. Was bean in the face. A fellow pop princess,
00:53:21.620 Ava Max, was slapped by a stage rusher. An aerial enthusiast, Pink, was handed someone's mother's
00:53:27.140 ashes. Fans interrupted country singer Miranda Lambert's intimate show with an impromptu photo
00:53:31.600 shoot. And a fan threw water on rapper Cardi B. Cardi B responded by chucking her microphone at her
00:53:37.700 water flinger. Large-scale in-person events are down bad. Well, we should also note that journalism is
00:53:44.780 down bad when the phrase down bad is appearing in articles. As for the rest of it, I haven't been to a
00:53:50.340 concert in probably 13 or 14 years. I've never been to a Broadway show. And with six kids, I go to
00:53:55.040 movies maybe twice a year at this point, which actually has less to do with the six kids and
00:53:58.960 more to do with the fact that there are only two movies a year at most that are worth watching in
00:54:02.520 the theater. My point is that I can't attest to the epidemic of bad public behavior at these venues.
00:54:09.020 Personally, I haven't been around, I haven't been in these venues very often, but I don't doubt the
00:54:13.200 claim. And I'll also say that obviously, this should go without saying, anyone who scrolls social
00:54:19.600 media in a movie theater during a movie should be arrested on the spot and publicly flogged.
00:54:25.720 If I were theocratic fascist dictator of America, this is one of the very first policies I would
00:54:29.440 instate. There would be public flogging stations set up directly outside of movie theaters so that
00:54:34.820 those who misbehave can be dealt with quickly and efficiently. We would also have guillotines on
00:54:39.300 spot for repeat offenders. And just to clarify for our big tech overlords who are listening to this
00:54:43.880 episode, I am not advocating violence against those who talk, text, or use social media in the
00:54:48.200 movies. I'm not advocating it. I'm simply suggesting a legal policy that we might want
00:54:54.400 to explore. It would be at least one way to curb the behavior that Vox is reporting on. And it's
00:55:00.940 not just Vox. On the same day, the BBC published an article on what it calls, quote, the summer of
00:55:06.580 bad tourists. And it begins, quote, this summer every day seems to bring another headline of tourists
00:55:11.520 around the world behaving badly. Last week, it was two drunk Americans sneaking into a closed section of
00:55:16.320 the Eiffel Tower and sleeping off their bender high above Paris. The previous week, a French woman
00:55:22.300 was arrested for carving a heart and her initials into Italy's iconic Leaning Tower of Pisa.
00:55:27.520 A Canadian teen defaced a 1,200-year-old Japanese temple last month just after a Bristol-based man
00:55:33.120 etched two names into Rome's Coliseum and told authorities he was unaware of the arena's age.
00:55:39.480 And who could forget the German tourists who crashed a performance inside a sacred Bali temple and
00:55:44.060 stripped naked after having previously run out of the bill, run out on the bill at several local
00:55:48.420 hotels? Feels like the whole world has forgotten how to act in other people's homes. So people are
00:55:53.980 acting up in movies, at concerts, on vacation, at tourist destinations. Where else? Well, of course,
00:56:00.280 we can't forget airplanes, which I've seen over the past few years a stark rise in incidents involving
00:56:04.480 rowdy and unruly passengers. 2021 was a very bad year for that kind of thing. And it looks like 2022
00:56:10.260 was even worse. This past June, the International Air Transport Association released its official
00:56:15.580 report on the subject. Reading now, it says, quote, the International Air Transport Association
00:56:20.540 released a new analysis showing that reported unruly passenger incidents increased in 2022
00:56:25.740 compared to 2021. Latest figures show that there was one unruly incident reported for every 568 flights
00:56:32.040 in 2022, which was up from one per 835 in 2021. The most common categorizations of incidents in 2022
00:56:39.940 were noncompliance, verbal abuse, and intoxication. Physical abuse incidents remained very rare,
00:56:46.160 but these had an alarming increase of 61% over 2021. Now, one incident every 568 flights doesn't
00:56:54.660 sound too bad on the surface, but when you consider the increase and also just how many flights take
00:56:59.880 off around the world every day, thus just how many episodes of drunkenness and physical abuse
00:57:04.540 in the sky this translates to, you start to see the scope of the problem. And it's a problem that
00:57:10.840 extends beyond airplanes and beyond tourist destinations and theaters and concerts. In many
00:57:14.640 ways, this is part and parcel with the epidemic of violent crime we talked about in the opening,
00:57:18.700 looting, shoplifting. It's all part of the same picture. And we haven't even mentioned the most dire
00:57:24.720 and urgent indicator of social chaos, which is the fact that, as I talk about often,
00:57:31.300 nearly everyone these days seems to have no problem ditching their shopping carts and parking
00:57:35.080 lots. I actually looked for some hard data on the rate of shopping cart ditching to see how it's
00:57:39.820 increased over time. I spent like way too much time this morning looking for that. Somehow it seems like
00:57:44.900 this issue has never been formally studied, and I don't know how that could be the case.
00:57:47.760 All we can say then is that there are a lot of people doing it, and everyone who has ever done
00:57:54.160 it for any reason is a psychopath who should be in solitary confinement. But the real question is
00:58:00.960 why? Like, why is all this happening? Why are people acting this way? If outrageous, offensive,
00:58:06.260 antisocial behavior is becoming more common, then what explains the increase? Well, that Vox article has
00:58:12.740 an answer, and it's exactly the answer that you would expect. It's the answer they give for everything
00:58:16.220 they say it's all because of COVID. Reading, quote, according to experts I spoke to, this rash of bad
00:58:22.980 behavior can probably be traced to the pandemic shutdowns of 2020. During the lockdowns, we didn't
00:58:27.700 have large-scale social events, and no doubt, some people have sort of forgotten how to act now that
00:58:32.520 they're back. Since humans thrive on collective effervescence, it was a complete shock to our systems
00:58:37.600 in 2020 when the pandemic, seemingly overnight, obliterated those large social gatherings, finding
00:58:42.800 that in-person effervescence became impossible. The pendulum swing from gathering in real life to
00:58:48.060 being relegated to social media to now in 2023, coming back to real life events, may explain why
00:58:53.260 some people are being disruptive and not fully comprehending the impact they're having on their
00:58:57.300 fellow audience members. They're using the modes of social connection they got accustomed to, posting
00:59:01.620 a video from a movie theater, scrolling through social media during a Broadway play, or treating a
00:59:06.620 concert like a performance they're watching from home in a setting that's inappropriate.
00:59:10.200 Now, to be clear, I don't dismiss this explanation out of hand. There's no doubt
00:59:14.720 some truth to it. When you lock people in their homes and you shut down all social gatherings,
00:59:20.140 you force people to wear muzzles, depriving them of the ability to see each other's faces and fully
00:59:24.520 connect even on the rare occasions when they're out in public. When you do all that, there are going
00:59:29.260 to be social consequences, and none of those consequences will be good. But this doesn't come close to
00:59:35.900 explaining the a-hole epidemic or accounting for the entire scope of the problem. The lockdowns may
00:59:44.100 have exacerbated some of this stuff, but it was there all along. The real source of the problem,
00:59:50.000 the thing that you probably aren't going to hear anyone talk about on Vox, is that we live in a culture
00:59:55.480 that fundamentally encourages this kind of self-centered behavior. There has been a deliberate effort going
01:00:02.360 back decades to undermine and ultimately destroy all of the basic standards of etiquette that nearly
01:00:08.060 everyone once recognized. They used to teach etiquette as a subject in school, but those days
01:00:13.600 are long gone. Etiquette has become such a dirty word that Vox wrote an entire article about etiquette
01:00:20.460 and never used the word etiquette in the article. They never acknowledged that that's what they were
01:00:24.060 talking about. What they're discussing is not just people being, quote, down bad, whatever that means.
01:00:29.660 They're talking about a loss of etiquette in social situations. The problem for our culture and those
01:00:38.220 in charge of it is that etiquette, both as a term and a concept, first of all, has the vibe of
01:00:44.100 something old-fashioned, like our grandparents cared about etiquette, which makes it automatically
01:00:48.900 archaic and inherently bigoted in the modern mind. Etiquette, by definition, is a customary code of polite
01:00:54.900 behavior among members of a social group. But customary means old. It means traditional. It means
01:01:00.820 something that has existed prior to yesterday. We, and by we, I mean the universal we, not you or me
01:01:07.560 specifically, hopefully, we've decided that we have no use for tradition, which is why tradition has also
01:01:12.540 become a dirty word right alongside etiquette. And that's what a lot of this stuff links back to.
01:01:17.400 Second and most importantly, etiquette is a code of conduct that you as an individual are expected
01:01:25.640 to abide by whether you want to or not, whether it feels good or not, whether it infringes on your
01:01:32.460 personal expression or not. It is something that is often supposed to supersede the desires of the
01:01:39.260 individual. It comes before living your truth, whatever that means. But as a society, we've entirely
01:01:46.120 lost the ability to convey that kind of message. We don't even have the language for it anymore.
01:01:51.060 The feelings of the individual have long since taken center stage. And they now come before any
01:01:56.760 notion of the common good or the needs of society. In other words, people look at their phones in the
01:02:02.200 movie theater because they want to look at their phones in the movie theater. It's what they desire
01:02:06.720 to do in that moment. It's what will make them happiest right then and there, they think. And so why
01:02:13.940 shouldn't they simply do what makes them happy? Why should they care if it makes you less happy?
01:02:19.460 Why should they concern themselves with your truth when they're so busy living theirs?
01:02:25.740 The writers at Vox have no answer for that. They can't really deal with this dilemma because they
01:02:30.820 don't understand what the dilemma is. We can complain impotently about people being jerks, but
01:02:36.520 when it comes to explaining why exactly people should not be jerks, it all breaks down.
01:02:43.020 The only real solution here is to restore some sense of order, of traditional etiquette, of
01:02:48.600 social custom. It's to reestablish a hierarchy where the momentary impulses and desires of the individual
01:02:55.640 are not sitting at the very top in the place of utmost importance.
01:02:59.780 In other words, it means defeating leftism. That's the only actual solution.
01:03:07.560 And we can be pretty sure that Vox will not be up for that, which is why all the people acting
01:03:13.140 like jerks in public and also Vox are all today canceled. And that'll do it for this portion of
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