The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1212 - A Lot Of Government Officials Should Be Going To Prison For The Hawaii Fires

00:00:00.160 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, each new detail that comes out of Hawaii after the wildfires

00:00:04.420 is more horrifying than the last. We now know that hundreds of people were prevented from

00:00:07.720 fleeing the fire when local authorities barricaded the only road out of town. Only those who

00:00:12.600 disobeyed and left anyway survived. We'll talk about that. Also, the first GOP primary

00:00:17.400 debate happened last night. I'll explain why it was effectively pointless, just like nearly

00:00:21.180 every other debate is effectively pointless. Plus, Jordan Peterson is instructed to intend

00:00:25.060 a mandatory re-education program, and a new study reveals that a lot of damage can be

00:00:30.240 done if you give hours of screen time to a baby, which raises the question, what kind

00:00:34.340 of parent would give their baby hours of screen time? Apparently, many of them do. We'll talk

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00:01:39.580 If we had a functioning news media, which we don't, there's a video that would be leading

00:01:45.600 every newscast right now. It has nothing to do with a plane crash in Russia, a GOP primary debate,

00:01:51.080 or even the indictment of every lawyer who's ever given Donald Trump legal advice, as important as

00:01:55.500 all those topics may be. But this video is about Americans, including children, who died horribly

00:02:01.500 this month. It's about how their deaths could have been prevented if their government was even

00:02:06.100 remotely competent. The footage I'm talking about is an interview with a survivor of the fires in

00:02:11.600 Maui. This interview was conducted not by CNN or NPR, but by a real estate agent who moonlights as a

00:02:18.140 citizen journalist. And he spoke with a man who goes by the name Fish, who survived the blaze in Lahaina.

00:02:24.480 And here's what that man saw. Listen.

00:02:28.200 And I went out, and I saw the fire, and he couldn't even see the gateway because it was covered with smoke.

00:02:36.100 And everyone's standing around just looking. And I said, I think we should get out of here because

00:02:42.380 of the speed of this wind. It could be here in two minutes. So I went around back to Front Street,

00:02:47.720 and all the cars were lined up, but none of them were moving. And I walked all the way from Safeway

00:02:53.580 to the Chart House. Not one car had moved. And I was wondering what was stopping the traffic.

00:03:00.240 Well, it was a policeman. And I got to the end, and I looked up north. There were no obstructions.

00:03:05.300 There was no reason to keep those cars there. Are you serious?

00:03:09.020 I'm serious. It was a heart attack. And I said, what are you doing? He goes, well,

00:03:13.320 I'm under orders to keep them here. And I said, the fire is right around Safeway. It's going to

00:03:19.160 hit Front Street. You know, these people got to get out of here. And he said, I'm following orders.

00:03:23.820 No way. And so I just kept walking. Maybe he knows something I don't, you know.

00:03:28.920 And I keep walking down the highway, and I look behind. No cars are coming out. I walked all the

00:03:35.660 way to Waikuli Beach. Still no cars coming out. And I started hearing boom, boom, boom. Then I heard

00:03:41.740 people screaming and stuff. You're saying they were blockaded in by the police at the end of Front

00:03:46.560 Street? Yeah. Like where that restaurant is. Where the Chart House was. Where the Chart House was,

00:03:51.300 I should say. There was a blockade there, and they could not go any. Safeway to there. Not one car

00:03:56.640 had moved. I mean, it's amazing. And we get that video from, well, it goes, hawaiirealestate.org

00:04:03.140 gives us that video with that information. He says, all the cars were lined up, but none of them

00:04:09.260 were moving. And I was wondering what was stopping the traffic. It was a policeman, a policeman sitting

00:04:15.120 there trapping all of these people in what is soon to be an inferno. And as incredible as that

00:04:22.700 account may seem, it's clear now that it's accurate. There are multiple witnesses saying

00:04:27.340 the same thing. The Associated Press reports that as residents of one West Maui neighborhood tried to

00:04:32.380 flee using the only paved road in town, quote, car after car was turned back toward the rapidly

00:04:37.140 spreading wildfire by a barricade blocking access to Highway 30. Turned back towards the fire.

00:04:45.120 Supposedly, authorities were worried about downed power lines, and there certainly were, we can

00:04:48.820 assume, plenty of downed power lines. But the problem is that the other option, rather than

00:04:53.140 navigating around that hazard, was to stay and die in the blaze. Seems obvious which was the better

00:05:01.380 choice, and yet police tried to force the residents to stay put. Many who listened and turned back,

00:05:07.260 you know, ended up burning to death in their cars, being literally cooked to death in their cars.

00:05:13.100 The most horrific death imaginable. Others were forced to jump over the seawall and tread water

00:05:19.220 while inhaling smoke. The people who obeyed the authorities ended up dead in many cases.

00:05:25.160 It's as simple as that. On the other hand, people who ignored the authorities fared a lot better.

00:05:30.540 Around 3 p.m., for example, a man named Nate Baird and his family tried to drive south out of town,

00:05:35.860 but found that the road was blocked by cones and crews who were, quote,

00:05:38.540 working on downed electric poles, according to the AP. And that's when Baird decided to ignore what

00:05:43.100 the work crews told him. He drove around the cones, and his family traveled for about an hour

00:05:46.960 until they reached safety. The article lists several other examples of people who are alive today

00:05:52.400 because they ignored barricades, they ignored the instructions from authorities, and they did what

00:05:57.680 they knew was the smartest thing. 138-year-old woman, Kim Cuevas Reyes, ignored authorities' instructions 0.96

00:06:04.080 to turn towards the local civic center, which became an ad hoc shelter for refugees. And instead 0.64

00:06:08.400 of doing that, the AP reported, quote, she takes a left, driving in the wrong lane to pass a stack

00:06:12.960 of cars heading in the other direction. That decision saved her life. Quote, the gridlock would

00:06:18.360 have left us there when the firestorm started, the woman said. Quote, I would have had to tell my

00:06:22.600 children to jump into the ocean as well and be boiled alive by the flames. Or it would have just

00:06:28.000 died from smoke and inhalation and roasted in the car. It wasn't until several hours later that

00:06:33.880 authorities announced that the road out of Lahaina was open for traffic. Several hours later, by that

00:06:38.720 point, indeed, many people on that road called Front Street had burned to death in their cars or died of

00:06:44.180 smoke and inhalation. Now, how is it possible that authorities blocked off one of the only usable routes

00:06:51.360 that would have brought them to safety during a wildfire? Given that officials in Hawaii were aware

00:06:58.160 of the risk of wildfire for a long time, that is an excellent question. Now, last summer in regulatory

00:07:04.620 filings, Hawaii Electric made it clear that the risk of deadly wildfires was real, especially during high

00:07:09.680 winds. And yet, apparently, the plan for dealing with this kind of disaster didn't preclude sealing

00:07:16.300 all the roads and trapping people in the middle of a wildfire. Now, if you think back to Hurricane

00:07:23.240 Katrina, as we made this comparison a few days ago, one of the biggest failures of FEMA back then was 0.99

00:07:29.880 a lack of planning. The government ran evacuation simulations but didn't implement the necessary

00:07:34.380 improvements after those simulations. So when the hurricane struck, there was chaos. A lot of people

00:07:39.220 died as a result. And we're seeing that exact same thing yet again. All these years later, the same

00:07:45.200 lack of preparation, preparation for hazards and catastrophes that are foreseeable, that's what's

00:07:55.500 causing people to die. The difference is that we aren't hearing much about FEMA in the aftermath of

00:08:01.140 the catastrophe in Maui. And why is that? It's a good question. Deanne Criswell is the administrator of

00:08:07.100 FEMA. She's the, and that's the Federal Emergency Management Agency. She had the same job that Michael 0.77

00:08:12.860 Brown did in 2005 when Hurricane Katrina made landfall in New Orleans. And Brown, you might

00:08:17.360 remember, became a household name in the wake of that disaster and not in a good way. When George

00:08:22.720 Bush told Brown that he was doing a heck of a job, it instantly became a national scandal. Brown was so

00:08:29.160 radioactive that no one was allowed to say anything nice about him. Unlike Michael Brown, though, Deanne

00:08:34.960 Criswell is not well known. You've probably never even heard her name. I didn't know it until I looked

00:08:39.980 it up. Despite the ongoing disaster in Maui, the national news media and the major political

00:08:45.340 parties in Washington still hold her somehow in high regard. Just the other day, she sat for a

00:08:51.380 friendly interview on Face the Nation. This is after the disaster and the bungled handling of that

00:08:56.840 disaster. But listen to how this interview went. Watch. FEMA director Deanne Criswell toured the damage

00:09:03.280 yesterday with local officials. Our Jonathan Vigliotti spoke with her after.

00:09:07.280 You were on the ground touring the disaster zone. What did you see and what struck you the most?

00:09:14.760 It's absolutely heartbreaking to just see an entire community that is no longer there. And I think one

00:09:23.600 of the things that was just really the most shocking, I guess I would say, is the row of cars of people

00:09:31.220 that were trying to drive and escape and then couldn't get out fast enough. And these are the ones that

00:09:36.900 ended up running or jumping into the water. And those cars just there. I mean, it was like a scene

00:09:42.360 from an apocalyptic movie. So the burned out cars were the most shocking thing, says the FEMA

00:09:46.680 director. It was like an apocalyptic movie. There's no scrutiny from Face the Nation or any media outlet

00:09:52.680 about why those cars were stranded there in the first place. There wasn't any question in that

00:09:58.920 segment about why FEMA didn't have evacuation plans that might have ensured the survival of all those

00:10:03.620 people. We learned yesterday that Hawaii's top emergency response officials were on another

00:10:08.660 island supposedly learning how to respond to wildfires on the day the blaze began in Maui.

00:10:14.000 And some key federal disaster officials were apparently busy at some FEMA meetings.

00:10:19.480 Well, what explains that? Again, we have no idea because no one is asking.

00:10:23.260 Reporters are busy talking to Deanne Criswell, the FEMA director, like she's some bystander visiting

00:10:28.400 Maui for the first time. This is the opposite of how the press treated Michael Brown decades ago.

00:10:34.360 It's not hard to see why this might be the case. Deanne Criswell, unlike Michael Brown,

00:10:38.540 is working for Democrats. She's also the first woman to run FEMA. So she has the whole identity 0.99

00:10:42.640 politics thing going. It would look very bad if the first woman to run FEMA is also responsible for 1.00

00:10:49.200 bungling the response to one of the worst disasters in American history. Of course, no matter how it looks,

00:10:55.800 that's exactly what happened. But the media has decided to plug its ears and close its eyes and

00:11:00.580 pretend it's not happening. But if you do what no major media outlet is interested in doing,

00:11:06.320 if you look into Criswell's past, there's a lot to discuss. As investigative journalist Nick Sartor

00:11:11.640 pointed out the other day, Criswell's government biography states that, quote, one of her most

00:11:15.640 significant accomplishments was leading the coordination of New York City's response to the

00:11:19.640 COVID-19 pandemic when she served as the commissioner of the New York City Emergency Management Department.

00:11:24.800 Now, New York's handling of COVID, you might remember, led to more than 10,000 deaths in

00:11:30.180 nursing homes. Deaths that were undercounted for several months until investigative reporters

00:11:35.500 noticed discrepancies in the government's data. These are also deaths that were totally avoidable.

00:11:42.160 But they made the decision in New York City to take people that they knew were infected with COVID

00:11:46.240 and put them in nursing homes, right in the middle of these places where you have the most

00:11:51.980 vulnerable populations. And 10,000 people at least died as a result. Now, in most countries,

00:12:02.560 everyone overseeing a response like that would never work again in any capacity, much less in disaster

00:12:07.520 relief. They'd go to prison for life, if anything. But Deanne Criswell was never even criticized.

00:12:14.840 In fact, she got a promotion. 10,000 deaths in nursing homes, and she got promoted.

00:12:22.380 And then overseeing yet another failed disaster response, she gets softball questions from every 0.90

00:12:26.920 news outlet, which is astonishing, really. We've seen our public health authorities and political

00:12:33.540 leaders lead us into one disaster after another, and they're not slowing down. Right now, because it's

00:12:39.360 an election year and Pfizer stock is in trouble, the media is, as it happens, is gearing up for COVID 2.0.

00:12:45.980 Several major corporations and some universities are already implementing

00:12:49.120 mask mandates again. They're gearing up to do the whole thing over again. Watch.

00:12:54.940 You're sick of hearing about COVID. So are we. The problem is, what is coming because of this new wave

00:13:02.900 of COVID that is really statistically meaningless? What's coming is really important, because as George

00:13:10.920 predicted, some people just can't let go of the emergency. More importantly, the emergency powers.

00:13:16.500 Lionsgate Entertainment out in Hollywood is back to masks and testing. We talked about colleges yesterday.

00:13:22.780 There are now 104 colleges in the U.S. still mandating COVID vaccines for students. Of course, faculty are

00:13:27.980 exempted. Some have indicated they will never let this go. All the while, they refuse to make sense of their

00:13:33.640 pseudoscience on the list. Rutgers, Harvard, and more. We can now add that Morris Brown College in

00:13:40.160 Atlanta and the Seattle government, who are never wrong, the government doctors didn't get a thing wrong

00:13:46.380 during COVID. They want mandatory face masks for health care workers. Now, along these lines, CNN just published

00:13:51.900 an article entitled, It May Be Time to Break Out the Masks Against COVID, Some Experts Say.

00:13:56.700 They're the experts again. The report scolds Americans for not being sufficiently deferential

00:14:02.640 to people with advanced degrees and positions of power. Quote, despite the concern among experts in

00:14:08.540 some institutions, Americans don't appear to be worried enough about the, don't appear to be worried

00:14:12.440 enough, they say, about the recent rise in cases to change their behavior. COVID-19 was at the bottom of

00:14:17.660 the list of key public health threats, according to the latest Axios poll. Now, it's not hard to see why

00:14:23.600 Americans are reacting that way. The first time around, more than three years ago,

00:14:27.140 the conventional wisdom was that if you wanted to survive, your best bet was to trust the experts.

00:14:31.760 And the experts embarrassed themselves and were revealed to be lying one after another.

00:14:36.580 You know, they said that you could protest for BLM and be safe, but you couldn't protest against

00:14:40.760 lockdowns. They admitted they were lying about herd immunity. They misled everyone on the effectiveness

00:14:45.880 of the COVID shot, on masks, on everything. Nobody really trusts these experts anymore for good reason.

00:14:51.740 That's encouraging, but the truth is, it's not enough. A lot of people just died in Maui because officials

00:14:58.180 forcibly blockaded them. The government and the experts prevented these American citizens from leaving

00:15:05.180 their neighborhood as a wildfire approached them. They burned to death because they were trapped there

00:15:10.700 by the authorities. The only way to survive was not simply to doubt, not simply to be skeptical,

00:15:20.360 but to actively disobey what you were being told by the authorities.

00:15:24.460 Now, when the next lockdown comes, whether the pretext is a COVID variant, a climate emergency,

00:15:30.080 or something else, that's going to be the correct response. Do what Nate Baird did in Maui.

00:15:36.740 Ignore the liars calling themselves experts. Do what you think is best for yourself and your family,

00:15:41.800 and do it fast. Otherwise, quicker than you might think, you'll be trapped. And by that point,

00:15:48.740 like the people of Maui, there will be no way out. Because the fact is that increasingly,

00:15:55.080 we live in a country where only those who disobey will survive. Now let's get to our five headlines.

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00:17:18.740 So I didn't start the show with the debate, and that's because I thought it would be better to

00:17:26.520 start the show with something that actually matters and the debate doesn't matter. And I'm

00:17:30.740 not just saying that to be contrarian or whatever. I'm not just saying that because I only watched

00:17:34.280 parts of the debate, not the whole thing, so I couldn't deliver a complete analysis of it if I

00:17:37.920 wanted to, though that is the case, I admit. But I'm saying it because it's true. It just is.

00:17:43.300 It's like this stuff, it really doesn't matter. It has almost no effect. Who won the debate?

00:17:50.780 Now there's the debate after the debate about who won it. Well, Vivek had some good moments.

00:17:55.940 DeSantis had some good moments. The others performed exactly as you'd expect.

00:17:59.580 I thought they all performed exactly as you would expect. And pretty much, you know,

00:18:05.080 I've noticed this pattern. Here's a really interesting pattern that I've noticed. Okay,

00:18:07.980 it's pretty fascinating. Fascinating coincidence. But what I've seen is just watching pundits and

00:18:13.200 people, the peanut gallery after the debate, it seems like if you liked Vivek Ramaswamy before the

00:18:21.240 debate, then you think you probably will think that he won it. And if you liked DeSantis before the

00:18:27.120 debate, then you'll probably think that he won it. And if you liked Mike Pence before the debate,

00:18:32.020 you'll think that he won it. So that's the relationship that I'm noticing. Most of the

00:18:37.440 people who think that Vivek won the debate are the ones who, going into it, liked him the most.

00:18:42.920 Pretty fascinating. Again, I mean, who could have seen that coming? The truth is that nobody had a

00:18:47.800 moment that will live in history and be remembered. Nobody had any one line or response that will be

00:18:54.060 quoted 10 years from now or even 10 seconds from now. Nobody imploded on stage either. You know,

00:18:59.840 nobody went down in flames. I mean, it is possible. I'm not saying that no debate has ever mattered.

00:19:04.160 It is possible for someone to have a debate performance that does have a major impact on

00:19:10.040 the political world and on their own political fortunes for good or ill. That does happen,

00:19:13.780 obviously. We can all think of examples. But it doesn't usually happen. And it didn't happen last

00:19:20.020 night. Everybody was fine. Everyone was fine. It was fine. It was all just, it was fine. C+.

00:19:27.800 Fox was not fine, though. Fox was pretty terrible, which is not unexpected. They were terrible with

00:19:34.860 topic selection. They were terrible with how they handled the debate. And I'll talk about that in a

00:19:39.160 moment. As for topic selection, they hit, for example, they hit climate change basically right

00:19:45.200 out of the gate. And this is maybe the one clip from last night that I'll play for you because it gives

00:19:49.880 you a good idea of where Fox is coming from. But here they are teeing up the climate change

00:19:55.280 conversation. Hawaii's governor and White House officials said that climate change amplified the

00:20:03.600 cost of human error. And a tropical storm hit California for the first time in 84 years.

00:20:10.440 The ocean hit 101 degrees off the coast of Florida. And in the last month, the heat wave in the

00:20:15.700 southwest broke records nearly 50 years old. So Alexander Diaz from Young America's Foundation

00:20:22.060 has a question for you all. Polls consistently show that young people's number one issue is climate

00:20:27.520 change. How will you, as both president of the United States and leader of the Republican Party,

00:20:32.320 calm their fears that the Republican Party doesn't care about climate change?

00:20:35.760 So we want to start on this with a show of hands. Do you believe in human behavior is causing

00:20:43.920 climate change? Raise your hand if you do. Look, we're not schoolchildren. Let's have the debate.

00:20:48.460 I mean, I'm happy to take it to start. By the way, first time in 84. So a tropical storm hit

00:20:53.520 California first time in 84 years. So you're saying it happened 84 years ago. So you're saying this is

00:20:58.860 the kind of thing that does happen. It's rare, but it happens. But rare things happen. They just don't

00:21:05.480 happen often. And so when a rare thing happens, it doesn't mean that some unprecedented of it,

00:21:10.080 it's not unprecedented. It's rare by definition. That means it's not unprecedented. What caused it

00:21:14.660 84 years ago? If climate change is causing it now, if human man-made climate change is causing

00:21:22.780 the tropical storm now, what caused it 84 years ago? And if you're going to tell me, well,

00:21:29.840 well, so something else 84 years ago, well, then couldn't it be that something else now?

00:21:33.900 So there's no difference between how Fox handled this debate and how MSNBC would have handled it.

00:21:38.160 They talked about climate change. They talked about January 6th. They talked about Ukraine.

00:21:42.680 They talked about Trump. They probably talked about Trump. I don't know. I haven't seen the

00:21:46.800 breakdown of how much time was spent on each topic, but Trump as a topic will be certainly in the top

00:21:51.700 three in terms of the amount of time spent on it. And that was most of it. Exactly the kind of topic

00:21:59.000 selection MSNBC would have went with. No difference. And by the way, Fox did not ask any questions

00:22:06.780 about child mutilation or gender ideology, which that's the biggest cultural issue in the country

00:22:13.300 for multiple years now is that, and there wasn't one single question about it.

00:22:19.980 And I brought this up on Twitter and one, and someone said, well, there's no reason to ask

00:22:24.420 because we already know what their answers are, but they all agree. First of all, if we're,

00:22:29.000 if we aren't asking questions, if we're going to decide in the debate that we're not going to ask

00:22:33.080 any question that we already know the answer to, that we would just ask no questions at all,

00:22:36.340 because we know, we know what they're going to say to all of these things, but they don't all

00:22:40.180 agree. In fact, there's a person on that stage, Asa Hutchinson, who vetoed a bill banning child

00:22:46.240 mutilation. So they don't all agree. You have a, you have a governor who, who has banned child

00:22:52.320 mutilation and another one who vetoed the ban of it. So there's a real, let's have a discussion about

00:22:56.620 that. No time for that. We got to talk about climate change and other stuff. Um, and this

00:23:03.420 thing about climate change being the number one issue for young people is BS. Obviously

00:23:07.600 climate change is not, I'm sorry. I don't care. Even if someone tells me that climate change is

00:23:13.060 their number one issue, it's not, I don't believe you. If you try to tell me that I just don't

00:23:17.640 believe you. I don't, I don't believe the polls. That's the kind of answer people give because they

00:23:21.860 think they're supposed, when someone comes to you, especially if you're younger and you're not,

00:23:25.960 you're not clued in, you don't know what's going on in the world. And someone's surveyor comes to

00:23:30.560 you and says, what are the top issues to you? And then you say, oh, climate change.

00:23:37.380 Because it sounds socially conscious. It sounds like the kind of thing you're supposed, it's a

00:23:40.120 safe thing. It's a safe thing to say. Um, it's the kind of answer you give on a survey because you

00:23:45.680 think it's the answer you're supposed to give, but nobody is waking up in the morning worried about

00:23:50.680 climate change. Um, people don't even like talk about it in real life.

00:23:57.120 I did like to sense his response there, the way he began his response, um, objecting to the way

00:24:02.980 the question was even framed. What is this? Raise your hand stuff. They did that multiple times last

00:24:07.940 night. Raise your hand. If this is what my kids do at the dinner table, this is what they do when

00:24:14.040 they're all sitting around. Raise your hand. If you think vanilla is the best ice cream flavor,

00:24:18.080 this is what kids like to do. This is a, these are adults. Allegedly, this is a presidential race.

00:24:25.220 Can we actually talk about it and have a, what do you mean raise your hand?

00:24:29.800 Especially when it comes to an issue like this, when you can't really give your take

00:24:34.540 with a simple hand raise, not every question is yes or no.

00:24:40.840 And that was my biggest problem with the debate. And, uh, and it's, it's my problem with how basically

00:24:45.900 every presidential debate is run, especially in the primaries. I just, I hate it. I hate it.

00:24:53.100 I think they do it completely wrong. I hate the way we approach debates.

00:24:58.060 Um, because the thing is they did cover some topics that matter. They talk about,

00:25:02.380 they talked about the border. They talked about crime. They talked about abortion. These are topics

00:25:06.220 that matter, but even there, it was basically pointless because you have eight people on the stage

00:25:12.660 and they have 90 seconds or 45 seconds or even 30 seconds in some cases to give an answer.

00:25:20.400 Okay. How ridiculous is that in a, in a political debate when we're trying to figure out who should

00:25:27.000 be president? You throw a question out and you have 30 seconds, 30 seconds. What can you say in 30 0.91

00:25:34.880 seconds? And then of course, as it always goes in these debates, if they actually start arguing,

00:25:41.300 right? If they, if they, you know, if they, if they debate during the debate, the moderators jump

00:25:46.540 in to shut it down. Hey, hey, hey, hey, stop that. Like wait is no, there's not going to be any

00:25:52.280 debating, sir, sir. There will be no debating in this debate. Those are the rules. Stop. Nope. Stop

00:25:58.860 debating. This is a debate, not a debate. Stop debating. Be civil, which means, what does that mean?

00:26:06.520 It means, it means go back to giving your canned 30 second sound bites and they're all canned. Okay.

00:26:12.760 I know the knock on someone like DeSantis, again, it's mostly from people that decided ahead of time,

00:26:17.100 they weren't going to like his performance, no matter what he did. But, but still Zua,

00:26:21.200 his responses are canned. They're all canned. What do you think they're doing up there? Are you that

00:26:25.940 stupid that you think that there's anyone on the stage, not giving a canned response? You don't 1.00

00:26:31.700 think they all sat there and rehearsed it and they're giving rehearsed responses. Maybe some

00:26:36.340 of them are better at not sounding rehearsed, but they're all rehearsed and canned, all of them every

00:26:40.360 time. You know why? Because nobody can say anything worthwhile in 30 seconds. You can't flesh out your

00:26:47.620 views. You can't explain your position. You can't do anything but give a canned response. I don't even

00:26:52.780 blame them for giving canned responses. You have to. What else are you going to do?

00:26:56.840 You know, if someone says, what do you think about crime? You have 30 seconds. Go.

00:27:03.840 If you don't have a canned response for that, you're not going to, you won't be able to say

00:27:07.060 anything. You won't, you're going to say, oh, what do I think about it? Let me think. You know,

00:27:11.260 that's what normal people do. Unless you have a canned response and you can, and you could pull

00:27:15.700 into your bag of canned response. Oh, I got a 30 second for that. I mean, these people, they all have,

00:27:20.820 they have a 30 second canned response for each topic. They have 45 seconds. They have 90 seconds.

00:27:25.040 They might have a two minute. And depending on the forum, if it's a debate, then they go,

00:27:29.780 you know, if they go into cable news, can any of them talk about any of these topics for more

00:27:35.140 than 120 seconds at a maximum? Can any of them flesh out their views for like, let's say five

00:27:39.700 minutes at a time? I don't know. We have, we've rarely seen it. And so when we talk about who won the

00:27:48.260 debate, what do you mean by win? Okay. The person who wins, if anyone wins,

00:27:53.380 it's because they were the best at saying snappy, clever things in 30 seconds, which great.

00:27:59.040 Okay. That's great. But what does that mean? What does that tell us about them?

00:28:03.940 So what? So let's say that someone's the best, someone has the best, you know,

00:28:08.520 debate performance in the world. It's the best thing you've ever seen. The best debate performance.

00:28:11.600 All that means is that they are very, very, very good at saying clever things in 30 seconds that

00:28:17.800 they've rehearsed ahead of time, but, but they don't sound rehearsed, which again, I mean, that is a

00:28:22.080 real skill. I give you, I gave you a lot of props for that. It means you'd be a great cable news

00:28:26.180 contributor, but does it mean you'd be a great president? What is the carry over here? You might

00:28:33.020 as well just have them go out and do a, you know, a three-legged race, put them in potato sacks and do

00:28:40.360 a, you know, a relay race. That'd be more entertaining at least. Have them do a push-up 0.99

00:28:46.140 contest on stage. It's more entertaining. It's, it would be just as irrelevant, probably less

00:28:52.120 irrelevant, actually. At least that would tell us a little bit about their physical fitness in

00:28:54.480 office, because this tells us nothing. The way they handle it tells us nothing about them. It tells

00:28:58.820 us nothing about how, how they would be as president. And I hate it. I don't know if I've

00:29:03.740 mentioned that I hate it, but I really do. And then you have the live audience there.

00:29:09.940 What is the live audience doing in there? Like, why does no one question this? Why do you have a

00:29:13.160 live, why do we need a live? Yeah, the debate should be live. It should be broadcast live. But why do you

00:29:17.960 need an audience in the room? What does that do? What would get, what difference does that, this is

00:29:23.200 supposed to be a conversation about serious issues. Why do we need trained seals clapping in the

00:29:27.160 background? All that means is that someone can say something really ordinary and, and it will sound

00:29:33.540 epic if they get the applause, right? So they can say, oh yeah, well, I think you're wrong about that.

00:29:40.600 And then the crowd goes, oh yeah. And then later on the pundits will talk about how that was a great

00:29:46.860 moment. You know, I thought that was a great line. Uh, you know, when the candidate said, uh, that the

00:29:51.480 other one was wrong about that crowd reaction was great. It was a great moment. It was a defining

00:29:55.020 moment for him. That's going to change everything. So here's how the debate should go. Okay. I'm not

00:30:00.280 just criticizing without having a solution. Here's what you do. Primaries. You let three or four people

00:30:06.820 into the debate. Not any more than that. I mean, there were people who were complaining that there

00:30:11.260 weren't enough people in there. People complaining that, oh, well, Larry Elder, someone else should

00:30:14.980 have. But you thought there should be more people on the stage? That's what you think? That's how we

00:30:18.720 improve this? No, there should be three or four people. You take the top three or four people.

00:30:23.140 We don't need the guys that no one's heard of. We don't need the governor of North Dakota.

00:30:28.320 10 people live in that state. Half of them have never heard of their, of their governor. The rest

00:30:32.700 of us have no idea. Okay. I mean, I could announce for president tomorrow and I would pull higher than

00:30:39.060 the governor of North Dakota. Not much higher, but I would pull higher, like guaranteed. So he's

00:30:44.560 irrelevant. We don't need him in there. Uh, we don't need, we don't need Asa Hutchinson in there.

00:30:48.360 What, what, what, who's voting for Asa Hutchinson? What audience, what, what is Asa Hutchinson's base?

00:30:55.280 If you talk to one person in your life and you ask him who's, you know, what's the politician

00:30:59.400 you support? And they say Asa Hutchinson. What do we need Chris Christie for? He's not a serious

00:31:04.840 candidate either. So just give up the, the, the three or four top guys, put them in a room,

00:31:10.680 nobody in the audience. You give them topics and you let them argue about the topics. That's all.

00:31:18.340 That's all the moderator should do. That's how you moderate a debate. You say, okay, candidates,

00:31:22.680 your first topic is the border. Then maybe give them each three minutes for opening statements,

00:31:28.700 just to kind of lay out opening statement. And then you say, okay, go 45 minutes, talk about it.

00:31:36.480 And then you sit back and you just let them talk. That's it. You just let them have a conversation

00:31:40.980 like normal human beings do. So we can actually hear them flesh it out here, how they defend their,

00:31:45.400 their point here. Here, here, let it, can we let it play out a little bit?

00:31:52.340 Presidential debate between two people, even more so,

00:31:54.340 you know, you have the two pres, two presidential candidates. You should have,

00:31:59.720 you know, it's a two, two and a half hour, two, two and a half hour debate. You have maybe five or

00:32:04.140 six topics, maybe at most. And you just, you throw out the topic, they get 30, 45 minutes,

00:32:10.820 20 minutes at a minimum. And you just let them talk about it. You don't need to jump in. Sir,

00:32:16.800 stop being mean. You're being mean to him. You're interrupted. It's a little bit to it. Be nice.

00:32:20.520 Please. And thank you. We don't need that. Why do we need that?

00:32:25.480 It's all wrong. All this stuff is so incredibly ridiculous and insulting. 0.99

00:32:28.120 And, uh, I talked about it for 15 minutes anyway, but what can I do? Um, okay, moving on. 0.97

00:32:38.420 Daily Wire has this report. A Canadian court has, uh, upheld the sanctioning of Dr. Jordan

00:32:43.440 Peterson by a psychologist governing body that has targeted Peterson for criticizing transgender

00:32:49.100 ideology, climate alarmism, and the Canadian government. The College of Psychologists of

00:32:54.040 Ontario, which has embraced radical gender theory in recent years, has threatened to remove 0.65

00:32:58.500 Peterson's clinical psychology license over his social media activity if he did not go through

00:33:03.040 a so-called specified continuing education or remedial program, otherwise known as a re-education

00:33:08.840 program. So they want Jordan Peterson in their re-education program, which really, I mean,

00:33:15.460 they know not what they ask. Um, I don't, do you, if you're running, not that I feel sorry for the

00:33:21.540 people, but if you're running one of these re-education programs, do you want Jordan 0.57

00:33:25.500 Peterson in your class? I like the idea. I'd love to see what that looks like, but I don't

00:33:33.420 think the people running, no one, I don't know where they find the, the, the, the, the instructors

00:33:38.000 for these re-education sessions, but, um, that's the short straw is getting the class with Jordan

00:33:43.860 Peterson sitting there. On Wednesday, Ontario Superior Court of Justice ordered Peterson to pay

00:33:48.880 $25,000 to the College of Psychologists and upheld the order that he go through a social

00:33:53.740 media education program. The organization is not punishing Peterson for any interactions with

00:33:58.960 patients, rather it is censoring, uh, fining and attempting to re-educate him for public comments

00:34:04.100 he made, including on social media and during podcast appearances. Peterson responded by blasting

00:34:09.500 the court and vowing to make every aspect of the case go public. Quote, so the Ontario Court of

00:34:14.620 Appeal ruled that, uh, the College of Psychologists on Ontario can pursue their, their, uh, prosecution.

00:34:20.440 He said prosecution, it's also persecution. That's my editorial editorialization. If you think that you

00:34:26.460 have a right to free speech in Canada, you're delusional. I will make every aspect of this public

00:34:31.140 and we will see what happens when utter transparency is the rule. Bring it on. And this all stems. Yeah.

00:34:37.380 I mean, as other comments he's made on social media, they mentioned climate alarmism or his

00:34:41.500 criticism of climate alarm alarmism, but, but really, uh, it all comes back down to gender.

00:34:48.560 That's where it all started. And that's what it, that's what it, that's what this is all about for

00:34:53.960 them. I think if Jordan Peterson, all the other issues, I mean, if Jordan Peterson were just to come

00:34:58.920 out and simply say, if you were to just to simply renounce basic reality and say, you know, I thought 0.98

00:35:08.880 about it and, uh, actually women can have penises. If he were to say that, they'd leave him alone 0.99

00:35:12.340 completely, but he won't say that, uh, much, much to his credit. And so now they want to force him

00:35:18.940 into this re-education program. Um, you know, when people look at a case like this, they tend to see

00:35:27.400 it as a, this is all about free speech. And it is, I mean, it is about free speech. Um, and that's one

00:35:34.020 of the reasons why it should worry us greatly, uh, is that this is the, I mean, blatant suppression

00:35:40.120 of free speech. And yes, it's happening in Canada. But if you think that this isn't coming here,

00:35:45.740 then you just haven't been paying attention. I mean, it's already here to some extent,

00:35:50.980 but all of this, everything that's happening in Canada right now, when it comes to speech,

00:35:56.340 when it comes to everything, when it comes to, you know, euthanasia becoming one of their leading

00:35:59.700 causes of death, all the rest, it's all coming. And we know that because the groundwork is laid.

00:36:05.760 You know, the precedents have been set. And, uh, as I always say, you know, the, the analogy for me

00:36:11.000 is like there, we're on the same, we're on the same train track on the same train going over the

00:36:17.520 same ledge. It's just that they are a few train cars up. So they're going to go over the ledge before

00:36:22.100 us, but I mean, we are attached to them. So we're going next. Unless some kind of radical severing

00:36:29.020 happens in the meantime, it's the only way to save it. Um, and so this same thing is happening here

00:36:35.840 on, on, on the same pretense because it's all, you know, this all goes back to the idea of hate

00:36:42.980 speech, the idea of, uh, that we have to affirm gender confused people. We have to affirm them in

00:36:49.640 their confusion. And if we don't do that, it's an act of violence. It's a hate crime. We are, we are,

00:36:56.040 we are actively causing their deaths just by not affirming whatever delusional thing they think or

00:37:05.220 say. And if that was true, like if it, if it was, if it was somehow true, you know, they say speech

00:37:16.300 is violence. When you say something, you're, you're, you're killing someone. Well, if you accept

00:37:22.100 that, then the rest follows logically from there. So that's happening here, but this is also, we always

00:37:31.820 have to emphasize, yes, it's free speech, but it's not just that. Okay. Free speech is the suppression

00:37:38.640 of speech. It's the suppression of open, open, uh, expression of ideas, trying to rig the debate so

00:37:48.940 that only one side can be heard. And it is that, but it's worse than that because we always have to

00:37:54.180 remember that they're not just suppressing any speech. They are suppressing true speech. They are

00:38:01.220 suppressing what is true. So I would like to get to the point where we, we, we really stopped calling

00:38:06.660 it speech suppression and we call it truth suppression because that's what it is.

00:38:14.260 You know, I'm against the infringement of free speech in general, but this is the worst kind

00:38:19.140 because they're infringing on true speech.

00:38:25.020 And when we get to a point where people are not allowed to say true things about some of the most

00:38:30.340 basic facts of reality, that's the, uh, that's the end of civilization.

00:38:36.820 The other takeaway from this, putting all the speech issues aside is that you see here why I am

00:38:42.840 so critical of the, uh, we talked about this backstage last night. It's why I'm so critical of

00:38:47.920 the psychology industry and psychologists, therapists, counselors, psychiatrists, all of it.

00:38:53.680 I'm so critical of it. So skeptical of it. I warn people about it so often. You've been very careful

00:39:01.980 before you go consult a psychologist about anything, especially when you're in a vulnerable

00:39:07.100 state, you're feeling desperate. That's when you got to be the most careful because this is what that

00:39:12.400 industry has become where Jordan Peterson, because he simply believes in reality is being run out.

00:39:21.220 Um, and he, by his fellow psychologists, they're the ones who are coming out against them. They're

00:39:30.720 the ones who are coordinating this attack. The entire industry has been ideologically captured.

00:39:36.260 It's been that way for a long time. And this is what happens to the few stragglers who refuse to go

00:39:42.260 along. The fact is that most people in the industry, they don't have the guts to endure this kind of

00:39:50.720 persecution. And so they, uh, they, they, they, they, they just go along with it.

00:39:57.820 You know, they, they somehow convince themselves that the gender affirmative model is actually okay.

00:40:03.040 They find a way to convince themselves so they can live with themselves and so that they can,

00:40:06.180 so they can go to sleep at night and look at themselves in the mirror,

00:40:08.280 you know, without breaking down in tears of shame. That's what they do.

00:40:12.340 I think a lot of these people in this industry, they've brainwashed to themselves

00:40:17.840 because they have to convince that. I mean, deep down, they know that it's not true.

00:40:23.160 They know that when a eight-year-old boy comes to them saying, I'm really a girl,

00:40:27.820 they know that of course he's not actually a girl. Of course he's confused. Of course,

00:40:31.720 this is a confusion that we could really easily alleviate. And they know all that deep down,

00:40:37.580 but they, but if they say it, they're going to get the Jordan Peterson treatment. They're too afraid

00:40:41.000 for that. And so they have, uh, but they can't admit to themselves that they're going along with

00:40:45.640 this insidious, toxic, dangerous, uh, vile lie that really is getting people killed and destroying

00:40:52.440 lives and destroying children. They can't admit that to themselves. And so they, they, they find a

00:40:56.440 way to convince themselves. It's like this self-brainwashing process. And they go and pass that

00:41:02.580 brainwashing onto, uh, to their patients. All right. I also wanted to play this briefly.

00:41:08.220 Good morning. Britain has a report on the UK's first successful womb transplant. Let's watch

00:41:14.120 a little bit of this. This is going to change so many lives. It is. You couldn't have families

00:41:19.100 before. Amir, should we, should we come to you? Cause I know you are desperate to, uh,

00:41:24.120 wave the flag of celebration of your colleagues. Um, just put into context, you know, the, the

00:41:30.620 extraordinary endeavor involved here on behalf of the medical profession and what it'll mean.

00:41:37.360 Oh, morning. It'll be so much to so many, uh, couples and women, uh, and the efforts that went

00:41:43.620 into that reading about the research that the surgeons did 25 years of research before doing

00:41:49.240 this kind of procedure, all those people in that theater, uh, giving up their time for free

00:41:55.140 and the outcome for this lady and her partner. I think it's really hard to understand the impact

00:42:01.440 of infertility, uh, when you're a woman, unless you go through it yourself, that idea of carrying 0.93

00:42:07.220 your own child, giving birth to your own biological child, unless that opportunity has been taken away

00:42:12.760 from you, you don't really get that impact. Uh, and for women who have had their wombs removed 0.98

00:42:17.720 through things like cancer or trauma or through birth defects, such as this lady had, uh, this will mean 0.99

00:42:23.820 everything. It's a chance. It's a, it's hope for the future. The, the donor in this case, as we've

00:42:29.040 said, was this, this, this lady's older sister, um, who've, who's had her family. So she was happy

00:42:33.680 to give up her womb and extraordinary thing to do. She's very well, apparently the operation to remove 0.93

00:42:37.680 it went, went perfectly. Um, but can I ask the obvious question? If a, if a, if a young woman, 0.61

00:42:42.680 uh, is assigned the donor register and is prepared to give up her organs after death, could you take a

00:42:48.520 womb from somebody, say a young woman who say tragically had been killed in a car crash?

00:42:52.260 Yes, you, you could. And it is tragic in those situations, but this is the hope that those

00:42:58.680 situations do give to, to other people. And I think womb transplant UK, the charity that paid for

00:43:04.080 this has said they've got some money for further transplants, including those from people who have

00:43:10.360 sadly died or who are brain dead. So yes, that, that is still an opportunity for women who want 1.00

00:43:16.100 children. So, uh, this is like the cutting edge of science and medicine right now. Womb transplants

00:43:21.840 is the first one in the UK. Uh, there have been some in the United States. It's really a handful

00:43:26.760 at this point. It's very, very new. And it's generally treated by almost everyone as a, uh,

00:43:34.360 as a great development, uh, just sort of straightforward, wonderful thing. Who could

00:43:39.320 have a problem with it? Well, when it comes to, uh, having a reason to, to, you know, finding reason

00:43:45.200 to have a problem with something, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm usually your guy for that. And I do have a

00:43:48.500 problem with this and I don't have to search that hard for this. I think this is actually really

00:43:51.560 quite bad. Uh, the womb transplant thing. And I, and I give you two reasons. I mean, the first one

00:43:56.480 is that absolutely without a doubt, uh, they will, now that they're doing womb transplants,

00:44:07.940 they will start doing it for men, for men who want to be women who pretend that they are women.

00:44:12.480 Um, absolutely. That is going to happen. And there's no question about it. And there's just

00:44:18.160 no way of avoiding it. You know, you have womb transplants. And once we accept that, then 0.59

00:44:23.660 it'll happen and they're going to do it and they're going to try. Um, and it'll be a disaster,

00:44:28.140 but they're, they're going to do it. So that's where this, this, that's where this heads, uh,

00:44:32.760 immediately. That's where it heads. So that's one problem. The other problem is just the,

00:44:39.400 you know, the risk. Okay. You, you do a, a organ transplant was a very risky procedure.

00:44:49.180 And if you want to take on that risk for yourself, then that's your prerogative.

00:44:54.840 But given the organ that we're transplanting here, ultimately it's not just going to be your risk.

00:45:02.360 Okay. It's also the risk of the child

00:45:04.520 who will eventually be in the, uh, in the, the transplanted womb. 0.99

00:45:11.280 And we simply don't have, there's not enough, uh, experience with this to say how safe that

00:45:17.960 really is for the children. We don't, there's no way to really know for sure. You can speculate,

00:45:24.060 you can look at, uh, you know, you can take a small sample size and try to extrapolate from that.

00:45:28.040 Um, but it's a, it's a risk that's be, that, that will, is passed down to the children who

00:45:35.260 eventually are going to be in these transplanted wombs. Um, and how many are going to die because 0.99

00:45:43.340 of complications based on the fact that it was a womb transplant. That's the real ethical dilemma

00:45:49.760 here. That's like, no one is talking about, or even acknowledging that I've seen

00:45:53.360 that there, there is a risk involved with the child. And, but that is a person. I don't know.

00:46:02.820 A big part of the problem here is that legally they're not acknowledged as people, but they are.

00:46:06.920 That is a person who is in, who is, uh, uh, taking on this risk without consent.

00:46:13.540 Uh, and so that's what I'm worried about when I see this, you know, and the truth is, and look,

00:46:20.920 infertility is a very, very difficult thing to deal with. Um, but there are children, there are many

00:46:28.040 children out there who do need to be adopted. And so, uh, maybe that's an option that should really

00:46:40.160 be explored. If you're in a position like this, there are a lot of children in need of adoption.

00:46:47.280 And you don't, you're not, you're not, uh, and in that case, you're not taking on a risk

00:46:50.800 on behalf of that child, but rather you're saving that child and bringing them into your home.

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00:47:48.460 Candace Owens just wrapped the 10-part series, Convicting a Murderer, that you won't want to

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00:48:00.240 if you watch Making a Murderer. But it turns out the filmmakers only told you part of the story.

00:48:04.460 Coming soon, Candace Owens will unveil the shocking parts of Avery's story that were omitted

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00:48:13.200 This is a collect call from an inmate at the Calumet County Jail. The man served 18 years

00:48:20.260 in prison until DNA evidence cleared his name. The Two Rivers man was convicted of sexual assault

00:48:25.060 in 1985, but exonerated with DNA evidence in 2003. So this is the infamous Avery lot?

00:48:33.660 Now, two years later, he again finds himself tied to a police investigation. Accused of murdering

00:48:40.140 Teresa Hallbuck on the Avery property. Stephen Avery's 16-year-old nephew admitted his involvement

00:48:45.360 in the rape and murder of Teresa Hallbuck. The car is discovered just around the bend.

00:48:51.940 It was just this worldwide phenomenon. I think they framed this guy.

00:48:55.480 I think he intended to crush the vehicle, but ran out of time. Avery thinks the $36 million

00:49:00.600 lawsuit he filed is why he's being targeted in this investigation.

00:49:04.100 Netflix made millions of dollars from Making a Murderer, but the filmmakers left out very

00:49:16.640 important details. Mountains of evidence that you have not yet seen. The blood vial.

00:49:21.540 The most egregious manipulation from the movie.

00:49:24.600 Interrogations.

00:49:25.240 That's when he started beating me because I told him that he's sick.

00:49:28.780 Cell phones.

00:49:29.400 And I saw melted plastic parts of a cell phone.

00:49:32.160 Interviews.

00:49:32.640 Her arms were pinned behind her head.

00:49:34.200 They made Stephen Avery look like a victim.

00:49:36.320 You believe your brother's guilty?

00:49:38.540 I don't know if I'm a suspect. I got on the eye.

00:49:45.840 I'm getting sick and tired of media deception.

00:49:49.500 Evidence piling up.

00:49:50.800 Why would they omit so many different things?

00:49:52.760 Why are you editing my testimony?

00:49:54.680 I am not going to make the same mistake that the filmmakers did.

00:50:01.940 Rearranging the testimony.

00:50:04.140 They delete a portion of it at the end.

00:50:06.500 How could they claim to care about the truth?

00:50:08.540 They all know that Stephen Avery committed this crime.

00:50:14.080 911, what is your emergency?

00:50:16.880 The evidence forces me to conclude that you are the most dangerous individual ever to set

00:50:22.440 foot in this courtroom.

00:50:23.320 Well, to get the rest of the story, you have to watch Convicting a Murderer coming to you

00:50:29.520 early September.

00:50:30.740 This 10-part series is exclusive to Daily Wire Plus, so you have to join now to watch it

00:50:34.540 at dailywire.com slash subscribe to get 25% off your new annual membership so you can watch

00:50:40.700 Convicting a Murderer when it premieres.

00:50:42.180 Trust me, you don't want to miss it.

00:50:43.800 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:50:44.860 I've spent plenty of time on this show explaining my problem with studies, and there's nothing

00:50:53.760 wrong in principle with the idea of conducting a study.

00:50:55.700 Doing a study just means that you're studying something.

00:50:57.340 I'm not opposed to that.

00:50:58.080 The problem, as I've argued, is that so many studies use shoddy methodology in order to

00:51:01.920 arrive at a predetermined conclusion.

00:51:03.240 And then those same studies are used as ammunition in political arguments by people who haven't

00:51:07.360 read them.

00:51:08.140 But on the other end of the spectrum are studies that are entirely valid and reach legitimate

00:51:12.960 conclusions by following the scientific process, and yet are still a waste of time because

00:51:17.220 they prove something that everyone should already know intuitively without any scientific

00:51:20.840 study telling them.

00:51:21.680 You have studies that come to fake conclusions, and then you have studies that come to foregone

00:51:26.440 conclusions, self-evident conclusions.

00:51:28.680 This week, the media is reporting on one that falls very much into that latter category,

00:51:32.620 or at least I would have hoped that it falls into the latter category.

00:51:35.740 I would like to believe that everyone already knows this and doesn't need any scientific research

00:51:39.860 to tell them, but maybe perhaps it turns out I'm wrong.

00:51:43.400 CNN reports, quote, handing your baby a phone or tablet to play with may seem like a harmless

00:51:47.860 solution when you're busy, but it could quickly affect their development.

00:51:51.000 A new study has found.

00:51:53.340 Now, it's a brief sidebar here.

00:51:54.540 I guess my initial theory has already taken a hit.

00:51:56.820 The optimistic part of me, a part that is growing smaller and smaller by the day, would

00:52:00.860 have liked to think that every parent understands that getting your baby hooked on a tablet

00:52:07.780 is most certainly not a harmless solution, nor is it a healthy way to deal with the busyness

00:52:12.760 of life.

00:52:14.060 But that's not the impression you get from the first sentence of this article.

00:52:17.460 And reading on, quote,

00:52:18.220 Having anywhere from one to four hours of screen time per day at age one is linked with higher

00:52:24.320 risks of developmental delays in communication, fine motor, problem solving, and personal

00:52:28.920 and social skills by age two, according to a study of 7,097 children published Monday in

00:52:34.240 the journal JAMA Pediatrics.

00:52:36.380 Quote,

00:52:36.560 It's a really important study because it has a very large sample size of children who've

00:52:40.020 been followed by for several years, said Dr. Jason Nagata, associate professor of pediatrics

00:52:45.260 at the University of California, San Francisco, who was not involved in the study.

00:52:48.680 Quote,

00:52:48.860 The study fills an important gap because it identifies specific developmental delays in

00:52:52.660 skills such as communication and problem solving associated with screen time, said Nagata,

00:52:56.900 noting there haven't been many prior studies that studied this issue with several years of

00:53:00.740 follow-up data.

00:53:01.960 Now, I just want to emphasize this.

00:53:04.360 Four hours of screen time at age one.

00:53:08.120 Four hours at age one.

00:53:11.060 Keep in mind that children at age one, I mean, these are babies we're talking about.

00:53:13.920 People are plopping their babies in front of screens for four hours, apparently.

00:53:19.080 But children at that age, they typically nap twice a day.

00:53:22.600 So, you know, you might get three or four hours of napping out of a baby.

00:53:26.900 Most likely, also, you're putting them down for bed like at 8 or 8.30, maybe earlier.

00:53:31.180 The point is that they're only awake for seven or eight hours a day, which means that four

00:53:36.900 hours of screen time is half of their waking hours at the age of one.

00:53:41.940 And this is what parents are doing, apparently.

00:53:44.280 And here are the results of that parenting decision.

00:53:47.020 Quote,

00:53:48.200 The study measured how many hours children used screens per day at age one and how they

00:53:52.460 performed in several developmental domains, communication skills, fine motor skills,

00:53:56.260 personal and social skills, and problem solving skills at ages two and four.

00:53:59.440 Both measures were according to the mother's self-reports.

00:54:02.120 By age two, those who had up to four hours of screen time per day were up to three times

00:54:06.540 more likely to experience developmental delays in communication and problem solving skills.

00:54:10.960 Those who had spent four or more hours with screens were 4.8 times more likely to have

00:54:14.720 underdeveloped communication skills, 1.7 times more likely to have subpar fine motor skills,

00:54:20.180 and two times more likely to have underdeveloped personal and social skills by age two.

00:54:23.920 Potential harms of screen time on communication skills may have to do with children being robbed

00:54:28.380 of drivers for language development.

00:54:30.480 Technology use can take time away from interpersonal relationships that nurture social skills,

00:54:34.480 since real people are more multidimensional than characters on a screen.

00:54:37.980 Looking at people's faces is when our brains turn on to figure out how to interact with them.

00:54:44.020 If children don't have enough time to play or are handed a tablet to pacify negative emotions,

00:54:48.560 that can prevent the important developmental milestone that is the ability to navigate discomfort.

00:54:54.280 Now, normally I'm skeptical of studies that depend on self-reported data,

00:54:58.640 but that's because participants are inevitably biased in their own favor when self-reporting.

00:55:03.940 What that means for this research is that actually the situation is probably much worse than what we're told.

00:55:09.040 If parents are going to skew the data at all, they'll do it to undercount the amount of time

00:55:12.980 their kids spend on screens and underestimate the developmental delays.

00:55:17.020 It seems very unlikely that any parent would exaggerate the amount of screen time

00:55:20.800 to make it sound like they plop their kids in front of screens more often than they really do.

00:55:24.820 So the point is that the real story is even more concerning than what's presented here.

00:55:29.880 It's especially the case when you zoom out and view the problem through a wider lens.

00:55:33.140 Kids are put on screens, as we've now seen, practically from birth,

00:55:39.360 and they'll stay on them through their entire childhoods, hardly taking a break,

00:55:42.420 hardly ever looking up to take in the physical world around them.

00:55:46.140 It's difficult to find reliable estimates on the average amount of time kids are spending on screens,

00:55:50.820 in part because this data is, again, always going to be self-reported,

00:55:54.120 and the people doing the self-reporting are incentivized to underestimate.

00:55:58.660 But even with that limitation, the surveys I've seen all seem to agree that children between the ages of 8 and 18

00:56:04.760 spend, on average, around 8 or 9 hours a day on screens.

00:56:08.360 I've seen some estimates that say 10 hours.

00:56:10.520 And that's just for entertainment purposes.

00:56:13.120 It doesn't count schoolwork.

00:56:15.000 It's even harder to find reliable estimates for kids younger than 8,

00:56:18.060 but we know that they don't suddenly jump on the screens at 8 years old and spend 8 hours on them.

00:56:23.760 So we know that.

00:56:25.820 And 8 or 9 hours of screen time is probably an extremely conservative estimate.

00:56:31.040 Yet even taking it at face value,

00:56:33.140 this would mean that millions of children are essentially spending every waking moment,

00:56:37.200 when they're not in school staring at screens.

00:56:40.580 This is their whole life.

00:56:42.360 And most of that time is spent on phones and tablets, not on the TV.

00:56:47.820 The survey back in 2019 found that over half of kids in the U.S. have phones with internet access by the age of 11.

00:56:54.020 20% of children have them before the age of 8.

00:56:56.180 That's phones with internet access before the age of 8.

00:57:01.140 It was in 2019.

00:57:02.340 So we can be sure that those numbers have all gone up considerably in the four years since the survey was conducted.

00:57:06.380 And although plenty of studies, including the most recent one,

00:57:09.760 have revealed some of the damage this is doing to our kids,

00:57:13.000 no study can paint a complete picture.

00:57:15.260 We're only just now beginning to see what that looks like, what the full picture is.

00:57:19.900 As the first generation of kids raised from birth on screens,

00:57:24.460 smartphones, internet, begins to reach adulthood.

00:57:27.760 And the results are quite dire.

00:57:30.180 Only getting worse over time.

00:57:31.700 I mean, Gen Z is the fattest, loneliest, most depressed, most anxious, least motivated, 1.00

00:57:38.240 least ambitious generation of human beings to ever live on the planet.

00:57:41.480 All the statistics bear that out.

00:57:44.200 They have difficulty forming human connections and relationships.

00:57:48.400 They're mostly uninterested and even trying.

00:57:50.520 They're deeply confused about themselves, about the world. 1.00

00:57:53.960 Incredibly ignorant. 0.99

00:57:55.220 Gender confusion has reached never-before-seen highs in this group. 1.00

00:57:58.920 They spent their whole lives staring at screens.

00:58:01.700 They never knew life without it.

00:58:04.480 And that's having exactly the kind of impact that any rational person should expect.

00:58:09.680 So why would parents set their children up for this?

00:58:12.800 Why would you do this to your kid?

00:58:15.100 Why would you intentionally put your child in a position

00:58:17.660 where they will become totally addicted to and dependent on screens

00:58:21.540 and unable to function as normal human beings in the world without them?

00:58:24.280 Why would you actively ensure that your child has unfettered access to the Internet,

00:58:31.060 where he'll be exposed to all manner of ugliness and depravity and degeneracy,

00:58:35.800 which he'll absorb and internalize during the formative years of his life?

00:58:39.840 Why would you allow your child to spend 8, 9, 10 hours a day laying around and staring at a little glowing box

00:58:48.220 instead of going out into the fresh air and having a real childhood, whether he likes it or not?

00:58:55.400 Well, whatever answer parents might give, whatever they tell themselves, the truth is clear.

00:59:00.180 I mean, they do it out of sheer laziness.

00:59:01.540 And some will actually admit this.

00:59:03.160 Here's one mother on TikTok explaining, in the very TikTok way, why she gives her kids tablets much.

00:59:13.080 Because they're annoying, she says.

00:59:23.240 The video, she says, why would you give your kids tablets?

00:59:26.100 She says, because they're annoying.

00:59:27.500 Like, the kids are annoying.

00:59:29.120 That's what she's saying. 0.76

00:59:30.740 She's a bad mother, in other words. 1.00

00:59:32.100 She wanted to make a video to let everyone know that she's a bad mother. 1.00

00:59:34.720 It was very important to let everyone know.

00:59:35.760 Now, that video has 5,000 likes.

00:59:37.340 Many mothers have jumped into the comment section to give their amens.

00:59:41.640 One says, quote, LOL, I like your thinking.

00:59:43.720 Totally guilty of this, too.

00:59:44.740 Another says, they really do be like that, though.

00:59:47.360 It's the only thing besides sticking their hands in outlets that keeps them occupied. 0.91

00:59:50.600 LMAO.

00:59:51.440 Another says, as my kid sits there on her phone and I'm on my phone.

00:59:55.180 Ah, silence.

00:59:56.760 Another says, yes, I just bought the twins one.

01:00:00.720 Many similar comments.

01:00:01.700 And then there's this.

01:00:02.720 Only full-time parents would understand.

01:00:05.880 Is that so?

01:00:07.380 Well, I'm a full-time parent.

01:00:08.820 I have six kids, all of them 10 and younger, three under four years old.

01:00:12.400 None of them have phones or tablets.

01:00:14.560 And I can guarantee you my wife and I have much busier lives than any of the women in that comment section.

01:00:19.920 By a considerable margin, probably.

01:00:22.340 Now, look, we're not perfect parents by any stretch of the imagination.

01:00:24.880 But the point is that parents who pull this, well, you'll understand when you're a parent.

01:00:28.440 Yeah, you might judge parents for giving their kids tablets and having them on the screens.

01:00:31.920 But when you're a parent, you'll understand.

01:00:34.260 No, that's a cope.

01:00:35.500 That's a rationalization. 0.99

01:00:37.080 You are lazy and neglectful. 0.82

01:00:38.980 You're more worried about making your kids shut up and leave you alone than actually raising him and helping him to become a good, happy, well-adjusted person. 0.99

01:00:50.200 You're a parent who doesn't want to parent.

01:00:52.040 And mostly, you don't want to parent so that you can spend all of your time on your own screen.

01:00:58.780 Okay?

01:00:59.180 Your entire home life is centered around the screen.

01:01:03.800 It has, it has, the screen has cannibalized everything.

01:01:07.660 It has defined you and your family.

01:01:11.220 You're not even a family.

01:01:12.640 You're just, you're just a collection of human beings living in the same house, staring at screens.

01:01:19.880 Is this really the kind of life you want?

01:01:22.700 Is this the kind of life you want your kid to have?

01:01:26.400 What is the point of a life that is spent doing nothing but staring mindlessly at a glowing box?

01:01:33.380 These are the questions you should ask yourself.

01:01:37.300 And if you're giving a tablet to your one-year-old to spend hours a day on, then you really need to ask yourself this question.

01:01:46.320 In the meantime, put down the screen.

01:01:48.560 Take the screen away from your child.

01:01:50.400 Take him outside.

01:01:51.100 Play a board game with him.

01:01:52.980 Play hide-and-seek.

01:01:53.840 Have a conversation, if you can imagine.

01:01:55.960 Read him a book.

01:01:57.300 Like, do something for God's sake.

01:02:00.060 Love your child enough to pay attention to him for more than 30 seconds at a time.

01:02:05.800 Takes a little bit of effort, but it's not so difficult as you think.

01:02:10.520 It's worth a try, at least.

01:02:13.520 Otherwise, you're canceled.

01:02:14.780 And I'll do it for the show today.

01:02:16.180 Thanks for watching.

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01:02:17.680 Have a great day.

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The Matt Walsh Show - August 24, 2023

Ep. 1212 - A Lot Of Government Officials Should Be Going To Prison For The Hawaii Fires

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