Ep. 1214 - NBC's Trans Propaganda Accidentally Reveals The Horrific Truth About Trans Ideology
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Summary
An NBC report featuring a trans kid has gone viral. A boy is chemically castrated and put on the path towards sterilization even as we hear him tell his mother that he s having second thoughts. A new study says that if you wore an N95 mask, you were probably breathing in something called toxic, volatile organic compounds. Plus, police in Nevada earn a standing ovation for the American public after they blow through a climate protest or blockade and drag everybody away in handcuffs. It s a heartwarming video. And Oliver Anthony divides conservatives with his recent comments about politics and quote-conservative news. We ll discuss all that and more today on the Matwell Show.
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Today on the Matwell Show, an NBC report featuring a trans kid has gone viral. The boy is chemically
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castrated and put on the path towards sterilization, even as we hear him tell his mother that he's
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having second thoughts. Also, a new study says that if you wore an N95 mask, you were probably
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breathing in something called toxic, volatile organic compounds. If that sounds bad, it's because
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it is. Plus, police in Nevada earn a standing ovation for the American public after they blow
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through a climate protest or blockade and drag everybody away in handcuffs. It's a heartwarming
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video. And Oliver Anthony divides conservatives with his recent comments about politics and
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quote, conservative news. We'll discuss all that and more today on the Matwell Show.
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If there's one thing trans activists desperately do not want you to do under any circumstance,
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it's think back to what life was like before the rise of trans ideology. They need you to believe
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that before we allowed men to compete against women in sports and before every company in the
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Fortune 500 started spending hundreds of millions of dollars hiring demented activists with blue hair,
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the old world was a bleak hellscape. Children were killing themselves en masse because their subjective
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sense of gender identity wasn't being affirmed. In this dark age of transphobia, which ran from
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basically the dawn of time until yesterday, middle-aged men went insane with despair because
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they couldn't cross-dress in front of toddlers at the local library. Law firms and consultants simply
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couldn't give good advice to their clients on account of the fact that they didn't have enough
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cross-dressers in leadership positions. Things were dire. In order for any sane person to buy into
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this narrative, it's vitally important that they not watch any footage from before the mass formation
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psychosis of trans ideology took hold in this country. So naturally, we'll begin with some of
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that footage. Here, for example, is a report by NBC News from the year 2012. And this was resurfaced
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this weekend by the popular account End Wokeness. And it quickly went viral. And you'll see why. Watch.
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To me, it seems ridiculous to have a kid at age 12, 13, 14 deciding whether they want to have
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biological children when they're 20, 30, or 40. I mean... Well, they make the decision to kill
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themselves at 12 and 13. That's a pretty powerful decision. We take an oath. First, do no harm.
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If doing nothing is doing harm, you have to do something. So that's a mainstream news anchor
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explaining that, quote, it seems ridiculous to have a kid age 13 or 14 deciding whether they want to
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have biological children. She's saying what most Americans would have agreed with at the time and
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still do, which is that it's crazy to administer cross-sex hormones, which sterilize patients for
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life to young kids who are barely teenagers. They're permanently forfeiting their ability to
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procreate at an age when they can't possibly understand the implications of such a decision.
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Just about a decade ago, it was not blasphemy to point that out. It was instead
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the default position of milquetoast personalities on NBC News. You're not allowed to say those things
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anymore, and it's easy to see why. The doctor in that clip has no response except to say that
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children can kill themselves at that age, which she calls a powerful decision. She actually says that.
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It's a powerful decision for kids to kill themselves. Those are her words.
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It's such a deranged answer that it's hard to know where to begin in responding to it.
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So now a person is capable of informed consent as long as they are physically able to commit suicide?
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What the hell kind of standard is that? Also, notice how the suicide threat doesn't do anything to
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answer any of the actual objections of critics. Even if it's true that a child will kill themselves if
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they don't transition, and it's not true. There's no data to support that, and all of human history
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shows that that's a lie. But even if it were true, does that mean that a child really can consent?
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Does it mean that the boy really is a girl? Put it this way. Are we transitioning the boy
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because the claims he's making about himself are true, or are we doing it as a desperate last-ditch
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effort to prevent him from killing himself? It has to be one or the other. It can't be both.
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But it can be neither. And it turns out that it's neither. Now, raising any of these concerns is now
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forbidden. If that same anchor said the same thing today, as we all know, she'd be driven out of town
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by a mob of pitchfork-wielding LGBT activists. So this whole NBC News segment is worth scrutinizing
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for this reason. It's like a time capsule from before everyone completely lost their minds. And
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to that end, here's the portion of that NBC News segment where they talk about a young boy by the
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Guidelines developed in Europe suggest waiting until around age 16. And bioethicist Dr. Moon says
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the few studies that do exist suggest young kids with gender identity problems often grow
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out of them. A lot of those kids that start out as children who are saying, I'm in the wrong body
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end up finding out by the time they're middle adolescence that they're actually fairly comfortable
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with their own gender. But Josie is not one of those kids. Or is she?
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Maybe I'm a boy inside and a girl outside. Really? Estrogen treatment is irreversible and would make
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Josie sterile. But Josie and her mother never doubted it was the right thing until an unexpected
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conversation happened one afternoon. But on the inside where nobody else can see? Yeah. Are you a boy
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or are you a girl? Maybe I'm a boy inside and a girl outside. Really? Yeah. Is that true? Only you know
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the answer to that. So if you wanted to grow up to be a man? Yeah. Would you tell me? Yeah. Hey, if you
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wanted to grow up and be a man, you could. I want to be... Sometimes I think I'm a boy, sort of, but I
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want to be a girl. Yeah. Would you love me if I'm a boy? Of course. I would love you no matter what.
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I always have and I always will. Now, the little slight hint of skepticism that we get from NBC in
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this report, you know, at least showing us that there are some doctors out there who will say that
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it's not a good idea to make permanent life-altering changes to a child. Like that small, small hint of
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skepticism these days would not be allowed at all. But the most important part from this clip is we
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have the child, Joseph Romero, clearly expressing confusion and hesitation. In fact, he says that maybe
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he's a boy trapped in a girl's body instead of the other way around, even though he already has a
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boy's body. Or he says, yeah, he says it's a boy trapped in a girl's body is what he says now.
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This is how turned around and upside down this poor kid's self-perception has become thanks to
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Munchausen mommy and her enablers. He has no idea what he thinks about himself. He's just, he's confused.
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Of course he is, because he's a child and he's been put in this environment. He's as confused as
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any kid would be, as you or I would have been. Yet they went ahead and sterilized him anyway.
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Now, imagine looking at a young boy like that, who's so clearly confused and saying, yeah, I think
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sterilizing him is a good idea. It's unthinkable. That's exactly what happened. And it happened because
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Romero's parents wanted it to happen for a long time. Several years before that segment aired on
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NBC News back in 2009, this was in 2012, but back in 2009, Romero's parents made it clear that they
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wanted to lock him into his girl identity as soon as possible. So they transitioned him and immediately
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announced it to the entire world. He's been, he's been profiled by major media outlets since he was
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at least eight years old. Now, even if you're crazy enough to think that a little boy can really be
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a girl in some mystical sense, you still have to see how there is no benefit to the child if you make
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it a public spectacle. Yet that's what the parents of trans kids so often do. Yet somehow none of the
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doctors involved in this boy's health care are alarmed by any of these red flags in any way. Instead, the
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doctor featured in this segment, whose name is Johanna Olson, decides to administer so-called puberty
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blockers to Joseph anyway. Watch. Dr. Olson had a decision. You are in the perfect place to start
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on blockers. And she promises to begin giving her estrogen, female hormones, in two years. Around 13.
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That's what I think. Yes, you're not going to develop breast buds on the blockers, but you're not going
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to wait until 16 to start. You know that, okay? Josie received the blockers as an implant in her arm.
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It's okay if you're crying. So with all the bravery she could muster,
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you're going to feel a little bit of a... Josie held on tight...
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Ow! ...as another chapter opened in this young girl's life.
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A lot of times it strikes me that had this happened just 20 years ago...
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...I wouldn't have been able to give her blockers, and she would have had to go through male puberty.
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That terrifies me. It's all done. Do you want a hug?
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I don't know that she would have survived male puberty.
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Now, it's hard to imagine any decent person watching that footage and not calling for the
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immediate arrest of everybody involved in the production, from the doctors to the NBC news producers
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to the parents. But nobody called for that back in 2012 when it aired. And that's kind of a big
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takeaway from this segment, is that conservatives had a chance to shut down the child gender
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transition racket early on. If there had been a loud and aggressive response to this agenda in
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its early stages back in 2012, maybe it never would have made it off the ground. But the conservative
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movement has historically been incapable of responding to cultural threats until they're so ingrained
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that they'll take decades to root out and destroy. And this is a prime example of that.
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The doctors involved in this barbarism have only gotten promotions and more power in the
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interim. On Twitter, Billboard Chris reports that the doctor in that NBC news segment is
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now running the gender clinic at Children's Hospital of Los Angeles. This doctor is somewhat
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infamous for a clip that we played on this show a couple of years ago. And if you don't
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remember, we'll play it again. Here she is explaining that it's okay to chop off a young girl's
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breasts because she can always get new ones if she wants. Watch.
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I'm just going to say this. Actually, people get married when they're under 20. Actually,
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people choose colleges to go to. Actually, people make life-altering decisions in adolescence.
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All the time. All the time. And honestly, most of them are good. It's just the bad ones that
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we talk about. Oh my God, the cinnamon challenge, right? I mean, why do we know about it? Because
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it's a thing and it's not common. Most teenagers aren't eating cinnamon, right? But some are and
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they're on YouTube and that's stupid. But we don't put on YouTube the things that are really good
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decisions, right? Oh my gosh, my kid took the S-18s. Not a very exciting after school special,
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right? But so what we do know is that adolescents actually have the capacity to make a reason,
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logical decision. And here's the other thing about chest surgery. If you want breasts at a later
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point in your life, you can go and get them. Now, any sane human being watching that clip would
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think, well, this person shouldn't be anywhere near children, much less running a gender clinic.
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The truth is that documentaries and reports about trans kids often cite experts like this who are
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clearly activists who are deranged. I mean, everything she says in that clip is either totally false or
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completely beside the point. She claims that most decisions that teenagers make are good,
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which is just an insane thing to say. If you've ever met a teenager or been one,
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then you know how insane that is. She claims that you can go and get breasts at a later point in your
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life after you've chopped them off, which is also insane. That's like saying you might as well chop
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your arm off because you can always get a new one. No, you can get a prosthetic, but you can never have
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the actual body part back. Most notably, she lists taking the SATs as a positive life-altering decision
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that kids make. But that's not life-altering in the same permanent and irreversible and physical
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way that sterilizing yourself and removing body parts is. And besides, kids don't choose to take
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the SATs. The SATs are invented and administered by adults. Two kids who were either given no choice in
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the matter by their parents or were heavily influenced in their decision, quote-unquote
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decision, by the fact that every adult has told them it's necessary to take the test if you want
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to be successful in life. So if gender transition is similar to taking the SATs as this doctor claims,
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that only proves that kids who transition are forced to do it or heavily pressured just as they
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are with the SATs. She has made the opposite of the point she was trying to make. And this is pretty
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common. Ininvertently, trans activists often reveal truths that they wanted to keep hidden,
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which is especially common in these documentaries like this one from NBC that show the child transition
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process. We all remember the clips of Jazz Jennings revealing his deep unhappiness to his mother,
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or recall the HBO documentary called Transhood. The whole film was full of children who clearly
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didn't want to be a part of the gender cult. And here's just one profoundly disturbing segment from
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that documentary. Watch. Good morning. Today we choose to recognize, honor, love, and celebrate
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anyone here who would claim their identity publicly as lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
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queer, or questioning, intersex, pansexual, asexual, or any category that I've left out.
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You're a little shy? Do you want to tell your phone if you're a boy or a girl?
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Okay. Phoenix would like you to know that she's a girl, and she prefers she and her pronouns.
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May you be well, safe, and whole. We honor you exactly as you are.
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So the boy is dragged up on stage at the fake church to announce his fake gender,
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but he has no interest in being a part of this spectacle. His mother is literally pulling him
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along by his hand, bringing him deeper into a, quote, gender identity that she picked out for him.
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Also in the same HBO documentary, we see a young child being recruited
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by his mother to become a trans activist, even as the boy objects and says that it's ruining his life.
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Soon, D.C., we're going to be moving to the White House presidential area to throw a book in Donald Trump's face.
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This one is Time to Thrive, and it's for people who work with LGBTQ youth.
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We actually go and meet with our senators and representatives.
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After we do that, we go and sit and sell some of Avery's books for a little while.
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I just don't want to even have a book. I've done too much in this world. It's ruined my life enough,
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and now everyone in this world is going to know. If I sell my book, it's going to go on the news along with me for, like, the 50th time at this point.
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A couple years ago, you wanted people to know.
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Yeah, I did, but now that was a really stupid, silly mistake, and now I don't.
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So you'll listen to the mother there. She says, well, a couple years ago, you wanted this.
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What, you said you wanted something when you were seven that you don't want a couple years ago?
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Who's ever known a seven-year-old to change their mind?
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Now, keep in mind that these are the, quote, trans kids who they put on TV.
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These are supposed to be the mascots for child gender transition.
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These are supposed to be the case studies that make the child gender transition industry look good.
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And yet these kids are clearly in pain and confused and abused.
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What about the ones who don't make the cut to be profiled by HBO or NBC or TLC?
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Watching clips like these, it's clear there's a reason the media has been much more careful in recent years
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They only do it now for very short propaganda pieces.
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It's the same reason they don't want you talking about news reports from a decade ago.
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Trans activists desperately don't want the truth to slip through the cracks.
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They know that the more people are able to distance themselves from the relentless propaganda of the moment,
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the more people can get an unfettered look at the lifelong debilitating consequences of trans ideology on children,
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the more transgenderism is exposed for the fraud that it is.
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The bad news is that for the past several years, trans activists have largely succeeded in hiding the damage that they've done.
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So on Friday, we talked about the war on plastic straws,
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which was waged at the behest of a nine-year-old boy
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in order to save the planet from certain destruction.
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And because of this war, we switched over to paper straws,
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which are pretty much the least efficient, least effective material to make straws with.
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But, you know, if you prefer to drink your straw rather than to drink with your straw,
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then they're perfect because they dissolve into the liquid,
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and, you know, you drink the—so you're consuming the straw itself.
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Well, as it turns out, paper straws are not going to save the planet
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because, in fact, they're made with what are called forever chemicals,
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which last longer than plastic, and they also cause cancer and other ailments.
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So we were told to go along with the paper straw thing
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because it's only a small sacrifice for the greater good,
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but it turns out that it's a small sacrifice that achieves nothing
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and, in fact, actually causes more problems than it solves.
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And that brings us to the latest update, which is not about paper straws,
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but rather about a different product that was also supposed to save humanity a few years ago,
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The surgical N95 mask has been held up as the gold standard
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but a study quietly re-shared by the National Institutes of Health in spring
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suggests the tight-fitting mask may expose users to dangerous levels of toxic chemicals.
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Researchers from Jeon Buck National University in South Korea
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looked at two types of disposable medical-grade masks
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The studies found that the chemicals released by these masks
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had eight times the recommended safety limit of toxic, volatile, organic compounds, TVOCs.
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Inhaling TVOCs has been linked to health issues like headaches and nausea,
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has been linked to organ damage and even cancer.
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It's clear that particular attention must be paid to the VOCs associated with the use of KF94 medical masks
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and their effects on human health, the researchers wrote in a study published in April.
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However, there are ways to reduce the damage, they said.
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Exposure can be significantly reduced if a mask is opened and left to sit for at least 30 minutes,
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This suggests that the packaging of these masks could play a role in the amount of chemicals they have.
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Once again, our basic common-sense intuitions have been vindicated.
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Now, we may not have said anything before about toxic, volatile compounds.
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I don't remember back when the mask debate was really raging.
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I don't remember any of us saying, well, but there are toxic, volatile compounds in these masks.
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We didn't say anything about that specifically because we didn't know about that.
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But many of us could intuit the fact that it's probably not healthy to strap a mask to your face all day.
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Well, because the healthiest thing, it seemed to us, is to have direct access to the air outside.
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The healthiest thing is to breathe in the actual air.
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And, of course, when we said that three years ago, we were shouted down by a bunch of smarmy idiots saying,
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What studies did you read that says that it's not a good idea to muzzle yourself all day?
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The answer, as always, is that the studies to confirm what any rational person already knew
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would be coming in the future, but they weren't there yet.
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Well, because prior to COVID, it was never considered an option to have billions of people
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wearing masks all day, every day, everywhere, all the time.
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Nobody had really studied that because nobody had been crazy enough to do it.
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And the left is always using this kind of thing to their advantage, right?
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They implement some insane new policy, and then they go, oh, yeah?
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Yeah, well, there's a reason for that, it turns out.
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Now, that's not to say that they were mistaken or something.
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And the design is to get us to question and ultimately reject our own common sense judgments.
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You know, they don't want you to use common sense.
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It was to the point, as I'm sure you recall, where, you know, you had people wearing N95 masks
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while they were exercising, like going for a six-mile jog around town and wearing an N95 mask.
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And once again, those with common sense among us looked at that and said, there's no way that's healthy.
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It cannot be healthy to wear that thing on your face while you're jogging in the heat.
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And then they'll come back around and say, oh, yeah, well, okay.
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The voice in your own head, your own instincts, your own intuition.
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And instead, blindly follow them while they proceed to lead you directly into a ditch.
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But the more you follow, the more you're conditioned towards pure obedience, just for the sake of it.
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But look, I'm a sucker for heartwarming videos.
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Anytime I see one of those videos that comes up on the feed of a young child getting a hearing aid for the first time and hearing his mother's voice for the first time, very heartwarming.
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I always stop and watch those videos to warm my cold, dead heart.
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But of all the heartwarming videos I've seen online in recent weeks, I think none were quite so nice as this one.
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Get out, get out, get out, get out, on the ground, all of you on the ground now, get on the ground, get on the ground, don't move.
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Like I said, I'm just, I'm a sucker for these kinds of videos.
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So that was the, that was the tribal police in Nevada dealing with climate protesters who were blocking the highway.
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And as you can see, they just ram right through the barricade.
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They throw the protesters on the ground, cuff them, drag them off while they cry and whine.
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And there are a bunch of other videos like this from different angles.
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And the great thing is that the protesters themselves are the ones who filmed this and posted it, thinking that we would sympathize with them.
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That we would watch this and go, look at what those mean police did.
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Except, except that literally everyone who saw these videos said, wow, that's awesome.
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And this is how cops should deal with these clowns everywhere.
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No patience, no mercy, throw them in cuffs and drag them away.
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Ram through the barricades and just deal with them like that.
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And it's great because for one thing, okay, blocking the road is not nonviolent.
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You're using your own bodies to impede the movements of thousands of people.
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And you have no idea where those thousands of people are going or where they need to be.
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They could be going to the hospital with a sick child.
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Not to mention, you're trapping all these people in their cars in the heat out in the desert.
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So, yeah, that's a violent act and it should be treated as such.
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But notice something else and really take note of this.
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Everybody loves the fact that these cops are just shutting these a-holes down.
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There was a climate protester group called Climate Defiance and they posted that video that I just showed you
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with an outraged caption that says, words fail, words utterly fail.
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Today, a police truck plowed into a peaceful climate blockade.
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These are the people entrusted to keep us safe.
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These are the people we've granted a monopoly on the use of force.
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And the thing is, every single comment responding to that post, every single one was like,
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Okay, if you were to put this video in front of all 330 million people in the country,
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it's guaranteed that at least 329,999,993 of them would love the video.
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Well, because the average person is sick of this.
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You know, I think like 10 years ago, maybe, that same exact video might get a slightly,
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I think still most people would be on the side of the cops, but there might be a few more people
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who would see that video 10 years ago and say, oh, that was a little excessive.
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They're tired of these kinds of jerks interfering with your day for no reason.
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They're tired of people who make your life harder and more miserable just because they can.
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They're tired of the lack of accountability, the fact that people just do whatever they want
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and the law is not enforced, they're sick of it.
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And they're ready for some tough love, some rough and tumble.
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And I think Republican politicians would do well to take note of that.
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All right, I want to talk about, well, there's this Oliver Anthony thing.
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Last week, Anthony, of course, I mean, of course, the guy that's behind the Richmond,
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North of Richmond song, he put out a video, I think it was late last week,
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And really seemed to sort of divide people on the right.
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There are two camps now that when it comes to Oliver Anthony and especially this video,
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let's watch the video first and then we'll talk about it.
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If there is anything for me to address at all with you, it's that,
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you know, it's the one thing that has bothered me
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I'm disappointed to see, like, it's aggravating seeing people on conservative news
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It's aggravating seeing certain musicians and politicians act like we're buddies and act like we're fighting the same struggle here,
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like that we're trying to present the same message.
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You know, I've had a lot of people reach out to me and I've tried to be polite to everybody and I've talked to hundreds of people the last two weeks.
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It seems like certain people want to just ride the attention of this song to maybe make their own selves relevant.
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The other thing that I find aggravating is, well, you know, like, it was funny seeing my song in the,
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it was fun, it was funny seeing it at the presidential debate.
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Because it's like, I wrote that song about those people, you know?
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So for them to have to sit there and listen to that, that cracks me up.
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But it was funny kind of seeing the response to it.
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Like, that song has nothing to do with Joe Biden, you know?
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that song is written about the people on that stage.
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And a lot more too, not just them, but, but definitely them.
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Okay, now Anthony has come out and clarified his political stance since that video,
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kind of restating that he's a centrist and that he said it's, it's, the song's not about Joe Biden, but,
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but, well, it's not just about Joe Biden, he meant.
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It's about, you know, it's bigger than Joe Biden and all that.
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Which, of course, the problem is bigger than Joe Biden.
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Um, but what he says in the video is interesting because it, it seems to have divided conservatives.
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And there are some who say that they like the guy even more now, uh, that he, he,
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this just makes him more, even more real and authentic and anti-establishment and all the rest of it.
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And then there are others who say that Anthony is trying to distance himself from conservatives,
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that he's basically throwing his own fan base under the bus to appease the left.
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First, to Anthony's credit, or in his defense, I guess,
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um, he never planned to become nationally known overnight.
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Um, he obviously wasn't prepared for the fame because you really can't be prepared for it until you have it.
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And for him, he went from, he went from like very not famous, right?
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He went from very obscure to famous in, in 24 hours.
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Um, and even if it happens over the span of, uh, you know, if you climb up the ladder of fame over the course of years,
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it still is, it's still, you get to a certain point where it's, it's, there's not, you know,
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there's no guidebook that you can really read that will tell you how to navigate it.
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Um, there are a lot of people, you know, there are publicists and consultants and whatever else,
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you know, whatever people that, that claim that they're the experts.
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And so, and then some of them are, are good, you know, do have good advice and others don't.
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Um, but even being able to navigate that and know who you should listen to and who you shouldn't listen to,
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again, there really isn't, it's just, you're kind of, you feel like you're on your own.
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So, um, so he's dealing with that and that's, and that's bewildering and overwhelming.
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Okay, we, we shouldn't want musicians to be political pundits.
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And if a musician comes along that has a, and he has a message that resonates with people on the right,
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it's very much a mistake to take that guy and insist that he become a Fox News pundit.
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Uh, we don't need, we don't need to have him defending some party line, right?
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They should just be, uh, uh, you know, uh, they, they should be engaged with their art.
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So that's on the one hand, on the other hand, uh, look, nobody cares if Oliver Anthony is
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Nobody criticizes Republicans more than conservatives.
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But just to be totally honest, when he says that he's aggravated by people in quote, conservative
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news, I guess there are various ways of interpreting that, but that would seem to me very much to
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be a reference to the people who gave him a platform to begin with people who, um, you
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know, people who connected his song to other people.
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Now people connected with the song because it's a good song and that's all on him.
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He made a good song, but they heard it to begin with because of conservative media and
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Prior to that, Oliver Anthony had an audience of basically no one on YouTube.
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Um, and that's just a fact, you know, he, he wouldn't have an audience without the conservative
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media personalities that he is now aggravated by.
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And I admit, I tend to think, uh, you know, like a thank you is perhaps more in order than
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But what, what really rubbed me the wrong way most of all is not even that when he says
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musicians, he throws musicians into that and he says, I'm aggravated by the musicians
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Like who, which musicians are you referring to?
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Because only, only a very, very, very few prominent musicians ever acknowledged that the
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I mean, John Rich is the only one I could even think of.
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There might've been a few others, but, uh, and, and John Rich was not pretending to be
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He was, he was trying to help him get his music out.
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Um, almost all the other musicians just never said a single word about Oliver Anthony at
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So, and the few who did were complimenting him and supporting him.
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And he's saying that he's aggravated by them, which is interesting.
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And finally, he says that he's aggravated by the fact that the song was played at the Republican
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Well, you know, an interesting fact here is that Fox called him and asked for permission
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And we know that because the Fox anchors who were the moderators have said that they said
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they got permission, but even if they didn't say that, we already know anyone who knows
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how these things work already knows, you know, when I heard it, that heard it playing at the
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debate myself, I immediately knew that, that Oliver Anthony approved that because of copyright
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And they're not going to just play the song without permission.
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I mean, they could, but, but they're probably not going to, they're going to get the,
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And so he approved the song being played and then said he's aggravated by it and then said
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he doesn't want the song, the song politicized and he approved it being played at a political
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You know, I, I do think he seems to be playing sort of both sides of the fence a little bit.
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It's, it's never made less sense to be a political centrist than it does today.
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When the, when the two sides are so fundamentally opposed on the fundamental realities of life,
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there really is no middle ground on these issues.
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An issue like, for example, is a woman, can a woman be a man or not?
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Um, so centrism, it makes no sense, but, but I don't care about that.
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You know, if you're a musician and you say you're a centrist, whatever, who cares?
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Um, it's the, what could be perceived as throwing people who've helped and supported you under
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But then again, you know, the guy doesn't have a PR firm helping him through this.
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Rock legend, Carlos Santana had some, had some choice words at a concert last week.
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And then we'll talk about what happened after this, but go ahead.
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When God made you and me, before we came out of the womb, you know who you are and what
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Later on, when you grow up and you see things and you start believing that you could be something
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that it sounds good, but you know, it ain't right because a woman is a woman and a man is
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Whatever you want to do in the closet, that's your business.
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I am like this with my brother, Dave Chappelle.
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And notice, notice the reaction from the crowd.
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Everyone's cheering him, which I think tells you where the culture is right now.
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How many days before he issues the inevitable apology to the trans community for making these
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Well, it turns out if you said one day, then you were exactly right.
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From the Daily Wire, rock legend Carlos Santana issued an apology this week after a clip of
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him went viral from a concert where he said, a woman is a woman, a man is a man, that's
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The 76-year-old guitarist said in a post on social media, quote, I'm sorry for my insensitive
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They don't reflect that I want to honor and respect all persons' ideals and beliefs.
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I realized that what I said hurt people, and that was not my intent.
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I sincerely apologize to the transgender community and everyone I offended.
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I want to honor and respect all persons' ideals and beliefs, whether they're LGBTQ or not.
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This is the planet of free will, and we've all been given this gift.
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It takes courage to grow and glow in the light that you are, and to be true, genuine, and
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We grow and learn to shine our light with love and compliments.
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Now, they posted that on Facebook, and it appeared, I think, that it was deleted shortly
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And so, as far as I know, right now, it's still on Facebook.
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And maybe there are people that want to give Carlos Santana the benefit of the doubt and
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say that, oh, this must have been the publicist again.
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I certainly wouldn't buy it in this case, especially because that statement did not
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It came off like an aging rock musician issuing an apology.
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And maybe having been given some bullet points from some publicists who said, you need to
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apologize, and here are some points you need to make when you apologize.
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And then he kind of, because he starts rambling at a certain point about love and compliments
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And I don't know what's more depressing, the fact of the apology or the fact that we all
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Of course, anytime somebody speaks out and then apologizes for speaking truth, it's always
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This is far worse than never saying anything at all.
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And that's why I always say, look, if you don't have the guts to stand by your words, then
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just shut your mouth and don't say anything.
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Now, I think everyone should speak out and speak the truth and stand by the truth boldly
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But if you don't have the guts, then just don't say anything.
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It's so much worse and so much more damaging when you say the truth and then apologize for
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And you do so immediately, which tells me that you weren't prepared.
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It's not even like somebody says something that's true and then they get the left descends
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upon them and rips them to shreds and ruins their lives and their livelihood.
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And, you know, a month later, they come out because they've just everything's been destroyed.
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And then they finally apologize because they're desperate and they've had enough.
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I mean, I would still condemn that as cowardice.
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But that would at least be better than this when it's like a day late, 12 hours later.
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So you weren't prepared to withstand any criticism of your statements.
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Just the first criticism you get, the first time one trans activist says, you know, that's
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In that first moment, you go, oh, you think that?
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But if that if you are that spineless, then just don't say anything.
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But in this guy's case in particular, you're 76 years old and you're rich.
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I don't know what his net worth is, but it's got to be tens of millions.
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You're playing to crowds who agree with what you said, clearly, based on the reaction from
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Why would, of all the people who might care what others say about them or what trans activists
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That is what is so kind of demoralizing, is that we need, you know, there are, when it
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comes in particular to trans ideology, there are so many people that know that it's wrong.
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And of all the people that know that it's wrong, there are certain people who are in a position
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where they can speak out against it and they really risk nothing.
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They have nothing, nothing is on the line, really.
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Because they're in a position, either because of their fame or their wealth or whatever,
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or their age or a combination of factors where there's really nothing that anyone can take
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And so those people should be the first ones speaking out.
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I mean, J.K. Rowling is pretty much the only one who said, well, she said, I've got a billion
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I'm rich enough to live, you know, a million years.
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And every time they complain, that's kind of her response back to them.
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But there are so many more who could be in her.
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It might not have a billion dollars, but they are, you know, in a position where they could
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So pretty pathetic, but it's what we're used to at this point.
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A prominent author named Andrea Bartz reignited a familiar conversation over the weekend when
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she tweeted about the joys of being, quote, child-free.
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And she's first quoting people on the other side.
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She says, child-free people will never experience the joy of watching their child touch grass
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And she responds to that by saying, okay, but do parents know the joy of being 37 and
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sleeping in and drinking coffee in silence and then leaving the house on a moment's notice
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Every few months we get another attempt by a childless woman.
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It is almost always a woman to try and convince us that it's actually a great idea to live
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only for yourself and die by yourself and make yourself into an ancestral dead end, leaving
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And every once in a while, the woman making this case is someone other than Chelsea Handler.
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But whether it's Chelsea Handler or not, the argument is always effectively the same.
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If you don't have kids, you can sleep in, relax, drink coffee in peace, leave the house whenever
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you want, and enjoy conveniences and luxuries that are beyond the reach of people with
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Now, the first and most obvious response to this kind of claim is that it's simply untrue.
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Parents can and do know what it's like to do all of those things, sleep in, drink coffee
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We know because we experienced those things before we had kids.
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And once our kids get older, we'll have just as much access to them as Andrea Bartz does.
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In fact, all of the luxuries she mentions really only become difficult when you have young
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And this is almost always the case when child-free, quote-unquote, people talk about what they
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imagine the irritations and sufferings of parents must be.
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They're almost always talking about parenting young children.
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If your kids are, say, 10 or older, however, there's no reason why you can't sleep in or
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enjoy silence in your home or even leave the house without much hassle.
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So if these things do fall out of reach, it's only for, in most cases, maybe a 10-year window
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In my case, the window's a little bit longer because we have 87 kids.
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And even when you have young kids, even if you have 87 young kids, you can still experience
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You have to get the grandparents to watch the kids so you can spend a few days just with
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There are many ways to orchestrate some relaxation time, no matter how many kids you have and
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You just have to put in some effort and some planning and be intentional to make those sorts
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In fact, I would argue that only parents of young kids can experience those joys, however
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Sure, a 37-year-old woman without kids can wake up late in the morning and have a cup of
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coffee in silence, but this is not any great treat for her.
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I had many quiet cups of coffee before I had kids, but I didn't find actual joy in those
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Yeah, I admit I don't get very many quiet moments at this stage of my life, but when I do get
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a single moment like that, I guarantee I enjoy it a thousand times more than Andrea has enjoyed
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So she has me beat on quantity, but I'm winning on quality.
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It's a simple and perhaps kind of depressing reality of the human condition that we can't
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really appreciate something unless we've experienced its opposite.
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You know, unless you have something to compare it to, you can't really appreciate it.
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You can't really enjoy being full unless you've been really hungry.
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You can't enjoy lying in bed unless you've been very tired.
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You can't really enjoy walking out of the house without hassle unless you've actually
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experienced trying to walk out of the house with a gaggle of small children who can't find
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their shoes, their jackets, and are wearing clothing that has somehow become filthy and
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stained in the 30 minutes since you put it on them.
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If you've experienced that, then yes, in the moments when you get to walk out of the house
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and everything's fine, you go, wow, that's a relief.
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What this means is that only people with children can actually experience the kinds of joys that
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are supposedly only available to people without them.
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Life has an ironic way about it, you know, in that way.
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Besides, when it comes to quiet, you know, not all moments of quiet are made the same.
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So for example, last night at, you know, about 10 o'clock, Andrea Bartz, I assume, was most
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likely in her house alone, wherever she lives, and I'm sure it was very quiet, and I was in
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my house where I live, and it was also very quiet, but it was a full kind of quiet.
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It was a warm quiet, not an empty and cold quiet.
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I checked on them, tucked them back in, and then I sat on my couch and I read a book.
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The house was as quiet as a house can get, just as it is every night, even though it was
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So we were both relaxing in the silence, but mine was not a solitary silence.
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Mine was the silence you get after you tuck your children into bed and kiss them goodnight.
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Hers was the silence that you get when you have no children to tuck in and nobody to kiss
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I'll take both my loud and my quiet, my noise and my silence.
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There's joy available in both, and I think to a much greater degree.
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And I made this point before, but I think it's worth repeating because it's something
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that, quote, child-free advocates seem to miss.
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I think many people miss it in many contexts in modern society.
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Now, they're correct when they point out that parenting brings all kinds of challenges that
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might cause parents to feel irritated and overwhelmed.
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There's plenty in parenthood that can cause real suffering.
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It's also true that some parents are never happy.
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There are parents like that, no doubt about it.
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And their kids will rightly grow to hate them for being so miserable, which will only heap
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But that's because the joy of parenthood is available, but it's not imposed on us against
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It will not sprinkle down on us like rain from the clouds.
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It's made available, but you have to choose to experience it.
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You can take joy in those hectic mornings when your house is full of life and noise and energy.
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Or you can focus on the fact that you can't drink a cup of coffee in peace.
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You can pay attention to what you aren't getting, what you can't do.
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Or you can pay attention to the beauty in those moments.
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That's how you take the joy that's available or not.
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But a lot of times people say, no, because I'd rather be focused on this thing that annoys
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Now, this is about as self-helpy as you'll ever hear me sound, but there's an important
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point in it, which is that literally all of the joys of a child-free, quote-unquote,
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life are absolutely available to those with children.
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You just might have to work a little harder to get them, or you might have to wait a little
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But the joys of parenthood are absolutely not available to those who are not parents.
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It's a whole category, an entire genre of joy that is out of reach for the childless.
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Whether they want to choose it or not, it's just not available.
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And I'm just trying to convey to anyone who's hesitant to have kids because they're worried
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that they'll be unhappy, that you'll only be unhappy if you choose to be.
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But a whole new level of happiness will be open to you if you choose that instead.
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That's what Andrea Bartz and so many others who brag about being, quote, child-free don't
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And that's why they are today, again, canceled.