The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1216 - Guy Who Wasn’t Even At The Capitol On January 6th Gets 22 Years In Prison Anyway

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, a federal judge just sentenced someone to 22 years in prison for his involvement on January 6th, even though he wasn't even there that day.

00:00:07.280 It's obvious that the government is on a political crusade to punish dissidents.

00:00:10.580 But when you compare these sentences to the punishments handed down to actual murderers, rapists and terrorists, the injustice becomes even clearer.

00:00:18.020 We'll talk about that. Also, Joe Biden starts masking again.

00:00:20.960 Gen Z abandons the university system and a group of New Mexico elected officials have written a letter condemning me for my dangerous and harmful rhetoric.

00:00:28.400 We'll talk about all that and more today on the Matt Wall Show.

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00:01:44.260 By now, everybody acknowledges that the federal government lies to Americans as a matter of course.

00:01:50.700 It's no longer just the so-called conspiracy theorists who think that.

00:01:53.980 Anyone who's been paying attention over the last couple of decades has come to that conclusion.

00:01:57.940 After COVID, after the recession that wasn't really a recession because they changed the definition of a recession,

00:02:03.160 after the wars in Iraq and Syria and Afghanistan and Ukraine and so on,

00:02:06.600 there's no reasonable person left in this country who trusts the federal government on faith, and rightfully so.

00:02:12.500 What this means is that if you're a Washington bureaucrat tolling away in, say, Joe Biden's Justice Department,

00:02:19.940 you have to adapt.

00:02:21.380 You can't just feed people bald-faced propaganda because no one will buy it.

00:02:25.300 You have to work to sell the deception.

00:02:28.140 So naturally, that's exactly what the DOJ has been doing.

00:02:31.500 They're coming up with inventive new ways to lie that are difficult to detect, at least on the surface.

00:02:38.320 So here's one example that went totally unreported by the mainstream press.

00:02:41.440 Kevin Benjamin Ware is a California man in his mid-30s.

00:02:45.660 Now, during the canonization of St. George Floyd three years ago,

00:02:49.900 Ware took it upon himself to light a federal courthouse in Portland on fire.

00:02:54.760 And there's no dispute about that.

00:02:56.500 Ware pleaded guilty to, quote,

00:02:58.440 repositioning a piece of lit wood against the walls of the courthouse.

00:03:02.020 In other words, trying to set it on fire.

00:03:03.720 Ware wasn't the only one who tried that tactic.

00:03:06.940 In case you've forgotten, there were mobs of people sieging this courthouse and trying to burn it down.

00:03:14.780 Here's some footage from that occasion, just to refresh your memory.

00:03:18.320 Watch.

00:03:18.540 Oh yeah, they got another one.

00:03:47.060 Now, Kevin Benjamin Ware was one of a handful of militants who was involved in all of that chaos

00:04:12.100 and was arrested after this attack on the federal courthouse.

00:04:15.480 After Ware pleaded guilty, Joe Biden's DOJ made a point to issue a press release about the many years in jail this domestic terrorist was facing.

00:04:23.840 Specifically, the DOJ's press release stated that Ware's intentional destruction of the federal courthouse was, quote,

00:04:28.980 punishable by up to 10 years in prison.

00:04:30.960 Admittedly, 10 years in prison is a little light for trying to torch a federal courthouse with people inside of it,

00:04:38.200 but at least it's something.

00:04:40.060 You know, it's a long sentence.

00:04:43.180 Long enough, you might think, to deter other Californians from trekking to Portland for the purpose of burning down courthouses.

00:04:49.260 What's interesting is that Joe Biden's DOJ never released a follow-up press release after Ware was actually sentenced.

00:04:57.700 They sent the message that this arsonist would serve some hard time, that there would be a stiff punishment,

00:05:03.120 but they failed to inform the public about what Ware's actual sentence was.

00:05:08.420 Why is that?

00:05:09.640 Well, it's not hard to answer that question.

00:05:11.000 As it happens, Ware ultimately received a sentence that was nowhere near the 10-year term that Biden's DOJ suggested he might serve.

00:05:19.060 Instead, on the recommendation of federal prosecutors, Ware received a sentence of two years probation.

00:05:25.060 For trying to set a federal courthouse on fire, he got two years probation.

00:05:31.880 And indeed, Kevin Ware never served a day in prison.

00:05:35.500 He did have to pay a $200 fine, though.

00:05:37.760 So there's that, $200, you know, like a speeding ticket.

00:05:42.100 If you're a former GOP congressional candidate by the name of Enrique Tarrio, this is all very confusing.

00:05:48.780 Because Enrique Tarrio was just sentenced to 22 years in prison.

00:05:54.400 This happened yesterday for his, quote, involvement on January 6th.

00:05:59.740 Prosecutors had sought a 33-year sentence for Tarrio, but the judge brought them down a little bit.

00:06:04.620 And now it's only, only 22 years.

00:06:08.740 What was Enrique Tarrio's crime?

00:06:11.060 Well, he didn't try to set fire to the Capitol building on January 6th.

00:06:14.380 He didn't try to burn down any federal courthouses.

00:06:16.520 Unlike Kevin Ware, he didn't place a flaming piece of wood up against a federal building.

00:06:22.380 We know that because on January 6th, Enrique Tarrio was nowhere near any federal building.

00:06:27.540 He had been arrested for vandalizing a holy BLM banner a few days earlier and was ordered by a judge to stay far away from Washington, D.C.

00:06:37.200 So he was not there.

00:06:39.340 Nonetheless, yesterday, Tarrio received the single longest sentence of any January 6th defendant.

00:06:45.960 Watch this.

00:06:46.720 Janice and Christy, a federal judge, handing down the sentence to Enrique Tarrio, 22 years in prison for seditious conspiracy in connection to the January 6th Capitol attack.

00:06:58.280 As you mentioned, he's the former Proud Boys leader from right here in South Florida.

00:07:02.200 He was found guilty of orchestrating the riot for members of the far-right extremist group.

00:07:07.920 He was not actually in Washington the day of the attack, but prosecutors say he was the ringleader.

00:07:12.520 Prosecutors were initially seeking 33 years, which is the longest sentence, instead giving him 22 years related to the Capitol attack.

00:07:20.780 He's the last of five Proud Boys defendants to be sentenced.

00:07:24.460 He and three other members were also found guilty of seditious conspiracy.

00:07:28.680 And before the sentencing, he spoke.

00:07:30.740 He apologized for the, quote, pain and suffering that law enforcement, legislators and others suffered on January 6th

00:07:36.400 and vowed to have nothing to do with politics, groups, activism or rallies.

00:07:41.280 So, again, a federal judge sentencing Enrique Tarrio from right here in South Florida to 22 years in prison for seditious conspiracy.

00:07:50.000 So it's a surreal news report in a lot of ways.

00:07:52.740 For one thing, neither the reporter nor the two anchors who were on the report as well seem remotely concerned by the fact that Enrique Tarrio was just sentenced to 22 years in prison

00:08:03.220 for orchestrating, quote, unquote, a riot that he didn't even attend.

00:08:07.420 There's no discussion whatsoever about what Tarrio might have done or how exactly he facilitated what happened on January 6th when he wasn't even there.

00:08:15.800 Nobody cares.

00:08:17.320 So let's talk about it.

00:08:19.040 According to the government, Tarrio told his followers on January 6th to, quote, do what must be done.

00:08:24.640 He also told members of the Proud Boys to organize a big crowd in Washington to storm government buildings.

00:08:29.720 The scheme was known as 1776 returns.

00:08:33.820 Now, sounds pretty ominous, right?

00:08:36.340 Storming government buildings.

00:08:38.060 Where have we seen something like that before?

00:08:40.380 Well, if you're not a goldfish or a fruit fly and your memory extends longer than a few seconds, you know the answer to that question.

00:08:48.300 Here's what the Supreme Court and the Capitol complex looked like during the Kavanaugh hearings.

00:08:52.720 Watch.

00:08:52.940 These are live images, folks, at the doors of the Supreme Court where you can see protesters have gathered.

00:09:09.760 They are demanding that their voices be heard as they anticipate the person who will be a new Supreme Court Justice, Judge Brett Kavanaugh, to be sworn in here any moment.

00:09:23.860 In a bigger picture, you can see approximately how many people who have gathered there.

00:09:27.620 It looks like there are dozens, and they are chanting.

00:09:29.920 The people were arrested in Washington over the last few hours for illegally protesting inside the Senate office building over Kavanaugh's nomination.

00:09:38.140 Comedian and actor Amy Schumer, as well as model Emily Ratajkowski, were among them.

00:09:44.240 The protesters originally planned to protest on the Capitol's steps, but headed inside the Senate for a sit-in.

00:09:50.760 U.S. Capitol Police say everyone arrested were processed and then released.

00:09:56.300 So these people bang on the doors of the Supreme Court.

00:09:58.940 They storm a Senate office building, and their punishment is absolutely nothing.

00:10:03.820 They got zip-tied at most and then let go immediately.

00:10:08.140 Their explicit purpose was to derail a government proceeding.

00:10:11.300 It was to interfere with a government proceeding.

00:10:13.760 In fact, some of these activists, you know, charged into the Senate chambers themselves.

00:10:19.140 None of them suffered any real consequences.

00:10:22.100 In fact, left-wing activists who have committed acts of violence, even homicides, have received far more lenient sentences than Enrique Atario just did.

00:10:29.240 Consider the case of the BLM arsonist back in 2020 who lit a pawn shop on fire in the name of civil rights.

00:10:36.900 Three days after St. George Floyd overdosed, Montez T. Lee decided to commit an act of arson that killed someone by the name of Oscar Lee Stewart.

00:10:46.080 Stewart's body wasn't found in the rubble for nearly two months.

00:10:48.680 What was Montez Lee's sentence?

00:10:52.220 He got less than 10 years in prison for an arson that, again, killed someone.

00:10:58.540 That's less than half the sentence that Enrique Atario will face for sending some, you know, naughty text messages.

00:11:04.840 Now, I'm focusing on Enrique Atario here because his sentence is the most egregious, but there's many more examples of this obviously unequal justice we're seeing.

00:11:14.740 Consider the case of Joseph Biggs.

00:11:16.560 He's a man with no criminal record whatsoever.

00:11:20.240 Biggs is an Army veteran who didn't hurt anybody on January 6th, but he did walk around the Capitol building on January 6th.

00:11:26.520 And he did also help to pull down a fence on the periphery of the building.

00:11:30.740 And for that, Judge Tim Kelly, the same judge who sentenced Atario, decided that Joseph Biggs needs to spend 17 years in prison for walking around the Capitol building and pulling down a fence.

00:11:43.800 17 years.

00:11:46.640 Now, again, you may ask yourself, where have we seen political demonstrators ripping apart fences in front of government buildings before?

00:11:53.200 Oh, well, that's right.

00:11:54.440 We saw it during the BLM riots that torched St. John's Church across the street from the White House.

00:11:59.280 Sent Donald Trump into a bunker.

00:12:02.500 They were tearing down fencing.

00:12:04.660 They were setting a church on fire.

00:12:07.340 And yet, nobody involved in any of that was ever frog-marched in front of the cameras or sentenced to 22 years in prison.

00:12:13.740 In fact, it doesn't appear that anyone involved in that incident or the burning of St. John's Church spent a day in federal prison.

00:12:21.440 We see relatively light or non-existent sentences like this all the time.

00:12:25.440 A serial child rapist in Ohio just got 10 years in prison, only 10 years, for serial child rape.

00:12:31.160 A drunk driver in Phoenix at four times the legal blood alcohol limit just got 12 years in prison for driving 135 miles per hour and killing someone.

00:12:39.660 A terrorist train engineer in Los Angeles who tried to run his locomotive into a U.S. Navy hospital ship during COVID received just three years in prison.

00:12:48.920 A man who burned down a Minneapolis police station live on national television during the George Floyd riots received four years in prison.

00:12:58.740 Four years for burning down a police station.

00:13:02.480 There are police still inside, by the way.

00:13:03.820 They went running for their lives.

00:13:05.240 Four years for that.

00:13:06.660 22 years for Enrique Tarja.

00:13:07.960 Another man who lit a Molotov cocktail and threw it at the police station got just three years in prison.

00:13:13.380 So, you get the idea.

00:13:15.580 On the other hand, anyone remotely involved in January 6th, including non-violent offenders, is being hunted down right now.

00:13:22.640 We're talking about American citizens well over two years after January 6th who are being ambushed out of nowhere by heavily armed FBI agents playing hero.

00:13:31.240 This is how the FBI just approached one small business owner in Arkansas named Nathan Hughes, who they hunted down, tracked down outside of his business.

00:13:39.420 And here's what that was.

00:13:41.420 And here's what that looked like.

00:13:42.840 Here, watch out.

00:13:43.400 Watch out.

00:13:43.680 Watch out.

00:13:45.860 Why do you have to like it?

00:13:47.020 I don't know.

00:13:47.440 I did.

00:13:49.880 What is up, man?

00:13:51.240 No.

00:13:51.620 No.

00:13:56.200 No, I'm Nate.

00:13:59.700 Who is it?

00:14:05.200 You weren't here.

00:14:06.720 He's one of the owners.

00:14:07.580 So, you've got heavily armed agents surrounding Nathan Hughes and dragging him away in handcuffs in the broad daylight in front of his business.

00:14:18.880 What was Nathan Hughes' crime?

00:14:20.540 Well, according to the DOJ, he wore an InfoWars shirt while pushing against the police line at the Capitol.

00:14:26.280 And to be clear, if Nathan Hughes actually did push against the police line on January 6th, that's a crime.

00:14:31.360 It would be comparable to the crime that BLM rioters committed in the footage that we've seen of them pushing against police lines.

00:14:40.080 Although, in many cases, they did quite a bit more than that.

00:14:42.580 For them, pushing involved like throwing bricks and that sort of thing at officers' heads.

00:14:47.480 But Nathan Hughes' case is not being handled remotely the same way as those BLM rioters.

00:14:53.520 Nathan Hughes didn't get off without any consequence whatsoever.

00:14:56.320 Instead, he's now facing more than five years in prison on felony civil disorder charges.

00:15:01.360 The feds showed up to arrest him with body armor and rifles and full view of customers, as if he was some kind of terrorist.

00:15:08.200 In fact, the feds also raided Hughes' home and opened his safe.

00:15:12.780 And the company, Liberty Safe, for some incomprehensible reason, complied with the feds' demands and used a backdoor mechanism to open the safe for them.

00:15:20.800 Now, there's no conceivable argument that can possibly justify all of this for the simple reason that nothing remotely like this has ever happened to left-wing terrorists like Antifa or BLM.

00:15:33.380 None of those thugs have ever received anything like this treatment, even when they murder people.

00:15:38.620 Now, if we lived in a country in which every, you know, lawbreaker, however that's defined, faced extremely harsh punishment, if that's the kind of country we lived in, or if you break any law at all, you can be guaranteed they're going to throw the book at you.

00:15:54.820 If that's the country we lived in, then maybe the treatment of the January Sixers would be tolerable because it would be consistent.

00:16:03.040 That's how the rule of law is supposed to work.

00:16:04.880 It's supposed to guarantee equal punishment for equal crimes.

00:16:08.340 So if we lived in a country where if you participated in any riot whatsoever, you can guarantee that the cops are going to hunt you down and they're going to throw you in prison for as long as they possibly can.

00:16:22.620 If we live in that kind of country.

00:16:24.720 But we don't live in that kind of country.

00:16:27.220 Most criminals are treated with kid gloves, even the most violent and dangerous kinds.

00:16:30.900 It's only with Trump supporters and Trump himself and other political dissidents that suddenly, suddenly we become a land of strict enforcement and merciless punishment.

00:16:41.360 Now, this is a point that's been made again and again over the past couple of years, as Trump supporters are sent to prison for memes, as U.S. service members are dismissed for refusing to take the COVID shot and so on.

00:16:51.060 But the prosecution of people like Enrique Tarrio and Nathan Hughes marks an escalation in the Biden administration's tactics.

00:16:57.860 Same goes for the Biden DOJ's handling of the raid on Craig Robertson a few months ago or rather a month ago.

00:17:03.780 Robertson was the elderly invalid Trump supporter in Utah who shared threatening memes about Joe Biden on social media for months, weeks later.

00:17:11.000 Instead of picking up Robertson while he was on his motorized scooter at Walgreens or something, which would be very easy to do.

00:17:16.980 The FBI decided to surprise Robertson with a 6 a.m. raid at his home for the memes that he posted on Facebook.

00:17:23.020 And they shot him in the process and killed him, they say, after he had raised a pistol.

00:17:27.420 And that's why they shot him.

00:17:29.020 Now, did he actually raise a pistol?

00:17:30.340 Maybe he did.

00:17:30.920 We don't really know.

00:17:31.640 We reached out to the FBI to obtain the body cam footage from the raid.

00:17:35.940 Yesterday, the FBI refused to provide it, citing ongoing enforcement proceedings.

00:17:40.680 That justification, of course, makes no sense because they've already killed the 70-something-year-old man who was posting the memes that they were so concerned about.

00:17:47.700 But the FBI said it anyway because they're confident that nobody in mainstream media will look into it any further.

00:17:52.660 And none of them are.

00:17:54.800 And on that point, if we're being honest, the FBI is probably right.

00:17:58.620 We may have actually reached the point where the federal government can imprison and even kill its political enemies without any oversight.

00:18:04.500 Even as it gives a pass to terrorists on their side of the political spectrum, which is what they're doing.

00:18:12.040 If that's the case, then we don't have a society that's governed by the rule of law anymore.

00:18:16.320 We have a society that, like every dictatorship, enforces the will of the ruling class with raw power.

00:18:22.020 You'd hate to think that's what we're dealing with right now, but unless a real opposition forms, unless conservatives start electing leaders who are ready and equipped to deal with this problem, for starters, then it will be our future.

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00:19:51.260 You know, I have to admit that I was skeptical that they would actually try to bring the COVID panic back, not because I have any faith in the powers that be or anything like that, or not because I put it past them or anything, but simply because it's an old tactic.

00:20:05.500 It's past its expiration date, I figured, and I thought that they would try something new instead.

00:20:10.520 You know, you can't go back to the COVID well.

00:20:12.360 That's kind of played out.

00:20:13.520 You can't get people to fear COVID the way that they feared it in the spring of 2020 because it's easy to get people to fear the unknown.

00:20:23.060 You know, that's what people fear is the unknown.

00:20:26.180 But once it's known, once you've lived with it for a while, it's not nearly as scary anymore, which is why people for a while were far more terrified of COVID than they were of other threats that are far more lethal to them and far more of a danger.

00:20:41.740 It's all about the unknown, but that's gone now.

00:20:44.500 So I thought that the powers that be would have to pull a different trick out of the bag.

00:20:49.620 That's what I figured.

00:20:51.880 Perhaps I was wrong, though.

00:20:53.060 Here was Karen Jean-Pierre at the White House yesterday.

00:20:56.440 Listen.

00:20:57.780 President Biden tested negative last night for COVID-19 and tested negative again today.

00:21:03.340 He's not experiencing any symptoms.

00:21:05.520 As far as the steps he is taking, since the president was with the first lady yesterday, he will be masking while indoors and around people in alignment with CDC guidance.

00:21:16.120 And as has been the practice in the past, the president will remove his mask when sufficiently distanced from others indoors and while outside as well.

00:21:26.500 So I guess on second thought, my skepticism that they would go back to the COVID well was was based on the extremely naive assumption that they have even the slightest respect for our intelligence, which obviously they don't.

00:21:40.800 So they really are going to try to run this back and do it all over again.

00:21:44.100 In fact, Dr. Jill Biden was was not the only esteemed scholar to come down with COVID yesterday.

00:21:50.960 And there was an announcement of them having COVID.

00:21:53.280 It was also announced on The View that Whoopi Goldberg had contracted the virus.

00:21:57.640 But I want you to watch this clip.

00:22:00.060 Listen to the crowd reaction and Joy Behar's reaction to the news that Whoopi Goldberg has COVID.

00:22:06.800 Listen.

00:22:06.920 As you can see, Whoopi is not here.

00:22:11.560 She has COVID.

00:22:13.680 Yes, it's back.

00:22:15.300 It's back.

00:22:16.060 It's back.

00:22:16.580 But she's on the mend.

00:22:17.600 She's on the tail end and she's probably back this week.

00:22:19.780 But I'm sorry she's not here.

00:22:21.120 For those of you who are looking forward to seeing her.

00:22:24.480 The reaction from the audience and from Joy Behar, I guess it's supposed to sound like disappointment.

00:22:28.720 Oh, no.

00:22:30.060 But they can hardly contain their excitement.

00:22:32.900 It's back.

00:22:33.600 It's back.

00:22:34.180 It's finally back.

00:22:35.140 Which, by the way, it's not back.

00:22:39.140 COVID is not back.

00:22:40.480 It never went anywhere.

00:22:42.380 It's a virus.

00:22:43.160 It's a respiratory virus.

00:22:44.680 It's the flu, basically.

00:22:46.200 It's endemic.

00:22:47.760 It'll always be out there circulating like any other of the hundreds of other diseases that are out there.

00:22:54.040 All with varying degrees of severity and posing varying degrees of danger.

00:22:58.920 But that's what it is.

00:23:01.000 COVID will have waves.

00:23:02.520 It will have spikes, just like the flu.

00:23:03.900 You know, you get a wave in the winter.

00:23:06.300 You get a wave in the fall around back to school.

00:23:09.220 And you keep living your life because what else are you supposed to do?

00:23:13.200 Well, not much unless you have political motivations.

00:23:17.020 Unless you have reasons to exploit the virus as the left does.

00:23:20.480 And so slowly but surely, we're starting to see this.

00:23:23.080 And we're starting to see even the masking agenda make its return.

00:23:25.820 Here's a report from Fox News.

00:23:27.960 We've already seen there was a college in Atlanta that decided to put COVID, the mask mandates back in place.

00:23:35.540 There have been some Hollywood studios that have put them back in place.

00:23:38.080 And now we have what I think is the first example of a school and a public school doing the same.

00:23:45.520 This is the Fox News report.

00:23:46.600 An elementary school in Washington, D.C. suburb in Maryland is reinstating school masks for third graders after a handful of kids recently tested positive for COVID-19.

00:23:56.260 In a now viral Twitter post, this is X post, but I refuse to call it that.

00:24:01.280 OutKick founder Clay Travis posted a letter that was allegedly sent to all parents at Rosemary Hills Elementary School in Montgomery County, updating them on the updated mask requirements for all students.

00:24:12.720 The letter addressed to parents of students in one specific classroom informs parents that, quote, three or more individuals have tested positive for COVID-19 in the class in the past 10 days.

00:24:21.360 We're taking the following steps to keep our school environment as safe as possible for in-person teaching and learning.

00:24:26.720 School principal Rebecca Irwin-Kennedy continues to say that the N95 mask requirement comes to prevent further transmission in the classroom for the next 10 days.

00:24:36.420 Quote, additional N95 masks have been distributed and students and staff and identify classes or activities will be required to mask while in school for the next 10 days, except while eating or drinking.

00:24:46.460 Masks will become optional again following the 10 day period.

00:24:50.260 So it's only for 10 days.

00:24:52.200 They really are just doing this all over again.

00:24:54.320 It's only for 10 days, just for 10 days.

00:24:56.320 That's it.

00:24:57.620 So they switched it up a little bit.

00:24:58.520 Originally, it's 15 days.

00:24:59.620 There's the arbitrary thing.

00:25:00.880 Now it's going to be 10 days.

00:25:03.780 So it's only for 10 days until someone else gets COVID in the school.

00:25:07.780 Then we've got to extend another 10 days.

00:25:10.540 Now, there's no point in pointing out all the many reasons why this is absurd, starting with the fact that, as many of us have argued from the very beginning,

00:25:19.100 all of the data has always shown that just the common flu virus is more dangerous to kids than COVID.

00:25:26.440 We've always known that.

00:25:27.660 It's always been the case.

00:25:29.160 So to still treat COVID as a special risk to kids especially, as a particularly dangerous sickness that needs special interventions is insane.

00:25:40.480 You know, they're going to mask for 10 days because COVID is detected, but they're not going to do it if a more dangerous virus is detected?

00:25:52.620 Like, what about the flu?

00:25:55.720 What if a kid comes down with the flu?

00:25:57.020 You're not going to mask for that?

00:25:57.840 Not that I want them to mask for that, mind you, but it doesn't make any sense.

00:26:04.580 Of course, I don't think the kids should be masking at all.

00:26:06.380 And this is where it falls on the parents.

00:26:08.580 It falls on individual citizens.

00:26:11.080 And it falls, in this case, when it comes to kids, on the parents.

00:26:15.000 You just cannot comply with this.

00:26:17.020 You have to refuse.

00:26:18.040 You have to stand up against it.

00:26:19.680 We have to be firm and united on this point.

00:26:26.660 Because we're talking about the powers that be trying to bring the COVID panic back.

00:26:30.560 One of the reasons why they're going to try to bring it back is because they figure, well, hey, it worked last time.

00:26:36.060 It's like the sheep in the public have not shown that they have any willingness to reject this.

00:26:43.300 So let's just do it again.

00:26:45.660 The only way it stops is if people say, no, we're not sure.

00:26:47.880 We're just not going to do it.

00:26:49.680 When the school tells you to mask your kid, just say no.

00:26:53.120 Absolutely no.

00:26:54.180 No way in hell.

00:26:56.600 And tell your kid not to put on a mask if they give him one in school.

00:27:02.440 So you're going to say to your kid, I'm not giving you a mask to wear.

00:27:05.600 They try to give you a mask in school, refuse to wear.

00:27:08.460 They send you to the principal's office.

00:27:10.060 You're not going to be in trouble with us.

00:27:11.280 If they try to physically put it on your child against his will, call the police, follow assault charges.

00:27:20.860 That's the level of pushback that's going to be necessary.

00:27:24.060 Also, by the way, don't test your kid for COVID in the first place.

00:27:29.440 Why are people doing that?

00:27:30.520 Like, why would anyone even know that a kid has COVID in school?

00:27:33.980 It requires you to go test.

00:27:36.960 Who's still testing for COVID?

00:27:39.100 And why?

00:27:39.780 I mean, our kids have had cold symptoms plenty of times over the past many months, and we never tested them to see if it was COVID.

00:27:47.700 Because who cares?

00:27:49.280 They're mild cold symptoms.

00:27:50.780 The exact origin or source of the mild cold is not exactly relevant.

00:27:56.220 So don't mask.

00:27:57.320 Don't test.

00:27:58.480 Absolute refusal to go along.

00:28:00.100 That's the only way out of this.

00:28:02.080 And that has always been the case, especially the case now.

00:28:04.360 Here's some good news.

00:28:05.740 Business Insider, with an encouraging report, says it took just one semester for Rasheel Srivastava to realize that college was not what he had hoped.

00:28:15.620 Quote, as a kid, you always imagine college will be a life-changing experience and that your freshman year is where you'll get a chance to discover yourself.

00:28:21.240 He said, instead, he was forced to take classes online in the wake of COVID and faced a campus social scene that remained fractured.

00:28:27.080 The computer science major wound up dropping out of UC Berkeley in fall 2021, only a few months after he had enrolled.

00:28:31.960 Soon after, he decided to launch a startup designed to help job seekers find work.

00:28:35.960 Today, as most of his peers are starting their senior year of college, he's got more than a million dollars in venture capital funding.

00:28:41.460 Most of my friends are just now finally getting adjusted, some better than others.

00:28:44.280 The world is rapidly evolving, and so is the college experience, he said.

00:28:48.080 Srivastava is one of a soaring number of Gen Zers who has decided to skip college altogether.

00:28:52.400 Four million fewer teenagers enrolled at a college in 2022 than in 2012.

00:28:57.680 For many, the price tag has simply grown too exorbitant to justify the cost.

00:29:00.920 From 2010 to 2022, college tuition rose an average of 12% a year, a year, while overall inflation only increased an average of 2.6% each year.

00:29:13.480 College tuition rose an average of 12% a year.

00:29:15.540 I actually find that shocking.

00:29:17.300 I mean, of course, we know that college tuition is ridiculously expensive and only getting more expensive as time goes on.

00:29:25.060 But 12% a year is, like, astronomical.

00:29:29.180 I mean, that's mind-boggling.

00:29:31.480 Today, it costs at least $104,000 on average to attend four years of public university and more than $223,000 for a private university.

00:29:40.620 At the same time, the salary students can expect to earn after graduation haven't kept up with the cost of college.

00:29:45.260 A 2019 report from the Pew Research Center found that earnings for young college-educated workers had remained mostly flat over the past 50 years.

00:29:53.620 Four years after graduating, according to recent data from the Higher Education Authority, a third of students earn less than $40,000 a year, lower than the average salary of $44,000 that workers with only a high school diploma earn.

00:30:04.680 So you're spending more and more and more every single year on a college education and getting less and less for it is basically the way that the trends are working.

00:30:16.600 The widening gap between the value and the cost of college has started to shift Gen Z's attitudes towards higher education.

00:30:22.820 A 2022 survey by Morning Consult found that 41% of Gen Zers said that they tend to trust U.S. colleges and universities, the lowest percentage of any generation.

00:30:32.020 It's a significant shift from when millennials were in their shoes a decade ago.

00:30:36.120 A 2014 Pew Research survey found that 63% of millennials valued a college education or planned to get one.

00:30:42.660 And of those who graduated, 41% of that cohort considered their schooling very useful.

00:30:47.800 And that's compared to 45% of Gen Xers and 47% of Boomers who felt the same.

00:30:53.440 So we're finally starting to see this shift.

00:30:56.600 It took long enough, but it was inevitable.

00:31:00.560 You know, the university system, as I've been saying since as long as I've had a platform, is a giant scam and has been for a long time.

00:31:11.640 It's arguably the greatest.

00:31:12.780 I mean, you could make an argument that the modern university system is the greatest scam in the history of the world.

00:31:18.700 I mean, it's certainly among the most expensive of cons, of scams, of, you know, schemes in the history of the world.

00:31:28.880 We're talking billions and billions and billions of dollars.

00:31:31.920 And finally, we're starting to see that reality reflected in the attitude that people have towards the university system.

00:31:43.800 And it's an attitude of skepticism.

00:31:45.440 You know, the thing about this, especially when we talk about it, and so often when we talk about the university system, and somebody makes the kind of arguments that I always make about, you know, criticizing the system,

00:31:57.180 it almost always goes immediately to this question of, well, is the education useful?

00:32:04.540 Can you use the education to go out and get a job that's going to be a high-paying job and that pays more than the kind of job you can get without a college education?

00:32:14.320 And what we find is that, as the statistics clearly show, the answer to that is no.

00:32:18.100 I mean, in that sense, the education is not useful.

00:32:21.700 And in so many cases, you're going to have kids that spend $100,000 of money they don't have.

00:32:27.700 And really, it's a lot more than $100,000 when you factor in interest and all the rest of it.

00:32:32.160 So hundreds of thousands of dollars of money they don't have to get on the promises that there's going to be a return on investment.

00:32:41.660 And then, yeah, they end up getting a job.

00:32:44.260 Either they get no job at the end of it, or they end up getting a job that pays worse than if they just didn't go to college at all.

00:32:52.220 So it's not useful in that sense, which is an important sense.

00:32:58.140 But it's also true that ideally, you know, we wouldn't really be talking about education in this way.

00:33:07.900 Ideally, we would say that education is worthwhile for its own sake.

00:33:16.060 It's not so that you can use it necessarily, or at least that's not the only.

00:33:20.540 That shouldn't be the only standard that determines whether the education is worthwhile, is whether it can be used.

00:33:28.840 And by used, we mean, can you learn something and then take it out into the world and monetize what you've learned?

00:33:34.380 Ideally, it wouldn't be like that.

00:33:39.300 And we would say that, well, look, even if you can't monetize the education directly, still, it's worthwhile.

00:33:46.700 You know, education is supposed to, it makes you a more knowledgeable person.

00:33:50.840 It makes you more, it's supposed to make you a better person, a more interesting person, a more well-rounded person.

00:33:56.740 Education should be the kind of thing that you pursue for its own sake, simply so that you can be an educated person, because it's good to be educated.

00:34:09.320 It's better to be an educated person than an uneducated person.

00:34:13.440 Ideally, that's what we would, that's how we would treat education.

00:34:15.960 But you, but that's, we can't treat the modern college system that way.

00:34:20.340 It's not something you can do just for its own sake.

00:34:22.680 Partly, that's because of the money.

00:34:27.540 Okay, when it's, when it's $100,000, you can't afford to do something that costs $100,000 for its own sake.

00:34:33.940 When it's that amount of money, when that's the kind of money we're dealing with, there has to be a return on investment.

00:34:39.600 There just has to be.

00:34:41.300 Or normal people can't afford it, and that's what we're seeing.

00:34:45.520 But then also, too, the education on its own terms is worthless.

00:34:49.900 Even aside from the fact that you're not going to be able to cash in and get a high-paying job.

00:34:55.600 The education itself is worthless, because the university systems are ideologically captured completely.

00:35:02.080 They have been for decades, obviously.

00:35:04.200 That's not breaking news.

00:35:05.920 And so the education you're getting, it's not even an education at all.

00:35:09.140 I mean, you're learning things that aren't even true.

00:35:10.920 So many kids, they go to college, and they come out more confused about the world than they were when they went in.

00:35:19.440 So when I say it's one of the greatest scams in the history of the world, this is what I'm talking about.

00:35:22.780 These are the levels that this scam exists on.

00:35:26.760 You're spending all this money with the promise that you'll be educated, and you'll be able to get a good job on the other end of it.

00:35:33.280 And neither of those promises are fulfilled.

00:35:36.620 Not only do you come out bankrupt, broke, poor, not able to get any job at all, but you're dumber.

00:35:45.920 You're more confused about the world.

00:35:48.380 You're in a worse intellectual shape than you were when you went.

00:35:51.940 So if people are waking up to this fact and finally realizing that we need to extricate ourselves from this system entirely, then that's a very, very good sign.

00:36:06.040 And this is, once again, where parents come in.

00:36:08.120 Because, you know, my fear is that we're seeing this shift away from colleges, but then you're going to have the parents who say, well, no, this is a very bad thing.

00:36:18.820 I mean, I need my kid to go to college.

00:36:20.220 My kid needs to go to college.

00:36:21.220 You start trying to push your kid into college.

00:36:23.840 Don't do that.

00:36:26.460 You know, it's a very stupid thing to do.

00:36:29.660 Most people don't need college.

00:36:33.380 Especially this.

00:36:34.380 I mean, this kind of college system, the university system as it currently exists, nobody needs that.

00:36:41.800 But really, in any form, most people don't need that.

00:36:47.900 Most people don't need it in order to get a job.

00:36:51.220 You know, they don't need it to, you know, whatever they're going to end up doing with their lives.

00:36:55.720 These are skills that you have to just go out and learn by doing.

00:36:59.360 That's the majority of jobs.

00:37:02.280 They require, you know, in order to perform them well, they require that you have a skill set.

00:37:08.120 And in order to develop that skill set, you just have to go and do it.

00:37:11.040 That's the only way to develop a skill set.

00:37:12.420 We talked about this yesterday.

00:37:13.140 So, most people don't need college in that sense.

00:37:17.240 And also, most people don't need college in order to learn.

00:37:22.320 Because it's not like I, you know, even though I think that most kids, when they graduate high school, should not go to college.

00:37:29.900 That doesn't mean that most kids, when they graduate high school, should stop learning.

00:37:33.640 No, you should continue it.

00:37:34.420 You should be learning your entire life.

00:37:36.120 You should be excited about learning your entire life.

00:37:38.280 You should always be learning and absorbing new information.

00:37:42.200 But for most people, there's no reason why you have to learn after high school in a formal sit-down classroom environment.

00:37:52.860 Especially these days.

00:37:55.040 You know, you can go on the internet and the entire, you know, culmination of mankind's knowledge is available at your fingertips.

00:38:03.600 A lot of other things are available, too, at your fingertips.

00:38:05.600 There's a lot of things that you don't necessarily want to access.

00:38:09.300 But if you can sift through all of that, you can learn anything that you want just by looking at that.

00:38:15.440 All right.

00:38:17.760 Let's see.

00:38:18.300 I got one more story.

00:38:20.300 This is from the Daily Wire.

00:38:21.000 Airport workers, backed by one of the biggest labor unions in the nation, protested at LAX Airport this week for stricter airline emission regulations to combat environmental racism.

00:38:31.040 The protesters are members of the Service Employees International Union, United Service Workers West Organization, and the airports Workers United.

00:38:39.800 The protest occurred in front of a departure terminal at the airport.

00:38:43.160 Protesters used the phrase, no justice, no peace, and no clean air, no peace.

00:38:48.120 I think we have footage of this inspiring protest.

00:38:50.980 Let's watch it.

00:38:51.380 It is born.

00:38:53.640 It's born.

00:38:54.580 It's born.

00:38:56.100 And.

00:38:56.880 It's been born.

00:38:59.660 You know it.

00:39:01.620 I have Self-Arords used to accept things at that time.

00:39:06.300 But it's not Janeiro.

00:39:07.940 It's been born.

00:39:08.940 No hay paz!

00:39:10.660 Sin justicia, no hay paz!

00:39:14.180 Sin respeto, no hay paz!

00:39:17.740 Sin salud, no hay paz!

00:39:21.100 Sin justicia, no hay paz!

00:39:24.300 Sin respeto, no hay paz!

00:39:27.540 Sin salud, no hay paz!

00:39:31.380 ¡Y puedo conocer ustedes!

00:39:34.020 Yo lo quiero sentir,

00:39:35.580 Okay. Uh, okay. So that was the protest outside the airport. And by the way, I was just

00:39:45.240 looking, uh, so they're, they're protesting environmental racism. And, uh, the article

00:39:49.940 says, what is that? Environmental racism is a disproportionate impact of environmental hazards

00:39:55.980 of people of color, uh, communities of color of more likely to live in polluted neighborhoods.

00:40:01.440 And as a result, we suffer the highest rates of asthma, cancer, and heart disease.

00:40:06.780 So that's what environmental racism is. So first of all, just to say that there is no

00:40:11.780 sure way to persuade people to hate you and your cause than to stage a protest at an airport,

00:40:18.680 LAX of all airports. I mean, LAX is already the worst airport in the history of aviation.

00:40:25.400 The here's the, I mean, honestly, the only good thing about LAX, and I think about this

00:40:29.340 every time I'm on my way to LAX, only good thing is one bright side, which is that if

00:40:34.700 your plane crashes on the way to that airport, then it does give you like a silver lining

00:40:41.760 to think about as you plunge to your death, you could just think to yourself, well, at

00:40:45.220 least I don't have to deal with LAX now. So that's the only good thing about it. LAX is

00:40:50.240 so bad that the last time I was there, uh, our, our plane had, had landed and pulled up

00:40:57.760 to the gate and it still took us an hour. Okay. An hour to get off the plane. Even from

00:41:06.100 the time we pulled into the gate, it took us an hour to get off the plane because they

00:41:10.820 couldn't find any gate agents to come and operate the jet bridge thing and open the

00:41:15.120 door. They couldn't find anyone to open the door. So we waited an hour for someone to open

00:41:18.840 the door and the, you know, the flight attendants are like calling in and saying, can someone

00:41:22.140 come and open the door? And people, it's like, workers are on their lunch break and you guys

00:41:26.140 can wait. Uh, it, it LAX is an airport. It's, it's run and staffed by people who've, who've

00:41:33.900 never been inside an airport before. That's what it feels like, like all their employees

00:41:38.440 at LAX airport emerged from some sort of time portal from the year 1760. They just walk

00:41:44.760 around looking baffled, utterly perplexed. If you need, if you need them for anything, if

00:41:48.580 you didn't ask them to do anything, they just, they're completely confused. I mean,

00:41:52.400 it's really every airport in the country, but especially LAX. So now imagine that things

00:41:56.320 are even more congested and even slower than usual because there are environmentalist hippies

00:42:00.800 staging a protest out front. My God. And now imagine that you're, you're sitting in traffic

00:42:06.560 on your way to the airport and traffic is heavy because there are environmentalists blocking

00:42:10.720 the road for a protest. And then once you get there, there are even more environmentalists

00:42:14.840 at the airport, uh, clogging things up. These people are, I, I mean, we, I've never seen a,

00:42:22.160 a political movement quite like this where the people involved in the movement are utterly

00:42:27.400 determined to make us hate them and, and mission accomplished by the way. But at least we now

00:42:34.360 know what environmental racism is. Environmental racism apparently is not as I had assumed, you

00:42:38.860 know, maybe as you assumed from the, from that term, you think environmental racism, that

00:42:42.760 must be when, when the environment itself is racist. Like the climate has been radicalized

00:42:48.600 by Fox news or something. That's not what it is. Environmental racism is the claim that

00:42:53.160 racial minorities are somehow more impacted by the environment than the rest of us. I mean,

00:42:59.640 the environment is the thing that we all live in. So, you know, you think of there, if there

00:43:03.320 was anything like the left, they always like to take their special victim groups and say,

00:43:07.520 this really impacts these people the most. You think if there was one thing they couldn't

00:43:11.960 do that with, it's the climate and the environment because we all live on earth and we are all

00:43:18.220 subject to it really to the same degree. Uh, but even this, they do that with, because they say that,

00:43:25.160 uh, minorities are more likely to live in urban areas and, and, uh, and it's polluted and all the

00:43:30.520 rest of it, which, which, you know, that part is true. But, you know, here's the great thing.

00:43:36.200 If you live in, in a, you know, urban area and there's a lot of pollution and it's gross and

00:43:40.120 there's litter and there's, it's just disgusting. And, and you're just surrounded by, by, I mean,

00:43:45.600 ironically, you're not really surrounded by the natural environment at all. You're surrounded

00:43:49.200 by concrete and glass and plastic and everything. And you're getting asthma, uh, and, and, and all

00:43:54.660 the rest of it. You find yourself in that situation and you don't want to be in that situation,

00:44:00.800 which I understand. I wouldn't want to live that way either. Then here's what you can do. You can move,

00:44:04.760 just move to a different place. Don't, don't live there anymore. Just a, a radical idea,

00:44:12.860 just a suggestion I wanted to throw out there. All right, now let's get to our new segment on the

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00:45:51.120 Texas's age verification on porn is the requirement to give the government a valid government ID to

00:45:56.120 continue. It makes a de facto data mining operation resulting in a blackmail file for the government

00:46:01.260 to use against individuals in the future. Buying alcohol or tobacco doesn't result in my ID being

00:46:05.960 stored in a government database saying that I bought it. Age verification could be done in numerous

00:46:10.680 other ways. I share Matt Walsh's distaste for the pornography industry, but we can't throw out the

00:46:15.580 Constitution or expand the security state to battle the porn industry. To be honest, I don't think the

00:46:19.780 take down the porn industry can or will ever come for legislation. It can only come from spreading

00:46:23.800 the gospel message of Jesus and changing the hearts and minds of sinful individuals.

00:46:32.440 Well, as to your last point, yes, I agree that ultimately our goal is to change. Ultimately,

00:46:40.720 we are battling sin. You're right about that.

00:46:42.540 Um, and so we are calling on a higher power, um, in that higher power is not the government. So

00:46:51.360 you're also correct on that point. Um, however, it's also unfortunately true that the churches in

00:46:57.640 this country that are ostensibly supposed to be the ones who are, you know, in charge of spreading

00:47:02.400 the gospel message and certainly rallying people together to spread that message. They have totally

00:47:07.520 failed on this point. I mean, completely, just like the churches in America failed on everything.

00:47:12.280 They've just completely failed when it comes to, to pretty much every cultural battle, including this

00:47:17.680 one. Um, so, but that's sort of a separate, but important issue that we can talk about when it comes

00:47:27.180 to, um, the idea of the government requiring an ID to, to access, you know, pornography. And you say that

00:47:36.040 it's unconstitutional, like the, the only way that can be unconstitutional is if you have some kind of

00:47:45.520 basic human right to access internet porn to begin with. And even if you did, I'm still not convinced

00:47:53.840 that that would automatically mean that you shouldn't be required to show an ID. I mean, there,

00:48:00.360 there are other things you have the right to do, but I still think you should show an ID.

00:48:04.140 Uh, voting, for example, is, is, is a big one. You have the right to vote. I think, and this is

00:48:11.620 not the case everywhere, but, but I think you should, you should have to show an ID to vote,

00:48:15.160 even though it's a right that you have. Um, so there, there are, you know, plenty of examples like

00:48:23.060 that, where even if I, so even if I agreed with your premise, what appears to be your premise,

00:48:28.060 that accessing pornography is a constitutional right. That's, it still doesn't follow from that,

00:48:34.220 that, uh, it's an infringement on that right to require identification,

00:48:39.080 especially when there is a, there's a, there's a real serious reason. Like the government actually

00:48:46.040 has an interest in, in requiring an ID. What's the interest in requiring an ID for voting? It's to

00:48:50.900 make sure there's not voter fraud going on. And that is an interest that's, that is an interest that I

00:48:55.260 think overrides someone's concern about privacy if they have to show their ID to vote. And the

00:49:01.940 interest when it comes to pornography is to stop children from accessing this extremely harmful

00:49:07.920 content. And that interest in my mind overrides your concern about your privacy because you want

00:49:14.200 to access your master, your master, your masturbation material. Right. Um, so I don't think that that

00:49:20.000 follows even from your premise, but your premise is also just completely wrong. There is no

00:49:23.520 constitutional right to access pornography that doesn't exist at all. Um, and so, uh, that's,

00:49:29.880 that's the first problem I think with your argument. Um, the Katchen says everyone on the right who

00:49:35.840 actually supports free speech also supports the legality of pornography because that's the whole

00:49:40.380 point of free speech. You have to defend the speech you don't agree with or else you don't actually

00:49:44.620 agree with free speech as a principle at all. So I'm going to ask you, so you say that, that

00:49:49.920 pornography is, uh, is free speech. So let me ask you this, what is pornography saying?

00:50:01.920 Like when, when, when someone has sex on camera, uh, or you have someone on only fans or whatever,

00:50:10.280 what are they saying? What's the message that they're communicating? Okay. If you sit down and

00:50:15.720 watch pornography, are you sitting there and saying, wow, this is a great, this, this is an

00:50:19.360 incredible message. What, what an insight, like what, what insights are they offering about the

00:50:25.420 world through pornography? The answer is none. There's no message. There's no insight. There's

00:50:30.500 nothing being communicated. It's just someone having sex on camera. It's prostitution.

00:50:36.380 Um, is prostitution free speech? It's not speech. It's an activity that you're engaging in

00:50:42.840 and not all activities are legal there. It's like, it's, it's, there are some activities

00:50:46.880 that you shouldn't be allowed to do. And we can argue about whether prostitution or pornography or

00:50:53.320 one of those things, but you know, is an activity you should or shouldn't be allowed to do. But the

00:50:57.200 point is that that's, that's what it is. It's not, it's not speech. It's not, you're not conveying a

00:51:01.480 message. Okay. So to my mind, um, speech, I know this is, this is, you know, this, this is a long

00:51:09.220 running debate about what exactly, what is free speech? What is speech to begin with? How do we

00:51:13.780 define that? What qualifies as speech? And you're always going to find these gray areas, sorts of

00:51:19.120 situations. I don't think that porn exists anywhere close to that gray area. To me, the question of what

00:51:26.680 is speech is very, very simple. It is the conveying of a message. That's speech. There's different ways

00:51:33.560 to convey a message. You can write it. You can speak it. Uh, you can chant it. You can write it

00:51:39.160 on a sign. You know, you can sing it. Like there are a lot of ways to convey a message,

00:51:43.460 but porn is not, is not the, is not conveying a message. Um, it's just, it's an activity that

00:51:51.660 people engage in for, for profit. And so we can take a look at that activity and say, well,

00:51:58.640 is this the kind of activity that we should allow or not? Although once again, so I don't

00:52:06.600 agree with the premise of your argument, but also your premise is irrelevant because even

00:52:12.220 if I did agree that, that porn is speech and that it should be free speech, that still doesn't,

00:52:19.040 doesn't follow from that, that you shouldn't have to, uh, that we shouldn't have some kind

00:52:22.540 of age identification requirement to make sure that nine-year-olds aren't being exposed to

00:52:27.160 it. So for the sake of argument, let's say I agree with you and I say, yeah, porn is speech.

00:52:34.060 You know, they're really, you know, pornographers are, they have a message that they're trying to

00:52:38.020 convey. That's what it's really all about. Well, okay. So that means that we shouldn't require

00:52:45.000 an ID to make sure that, that, that 10 year olds aren't accessing it. Why? Because if it's speech,

00:52:51.100 I think, I'd hope we would both agree that it's, if it is speech, it's speech for adults,

00:52:55.840 not for kids. And so let's make sure the kids aren't, aren't accessing it. Uh, finally,

00:53:03.020 Foxy nerd says not a fan of the new segment. We all know Walsh will never admit he's wrong. Well,

00:53:07.780 that's completely absurd. You can't, you cannot say that once again, this is a false premise.

00:53:13.960 Uh, how can you say that I'll never admit that I'm wrong because I've never been wrong. So how do

00:53:20.320 you know that I wouldn't admit it? Think about it. I I've never had the opportunity to admit that I'm

00:53:26.180 wrong about something because I've never been wrong. I would love to admit it. I would be the

00:53:30.520 first one to admit that I was wrong about something so I can put my humility on display for all to see.

00:53:35.800 Uh, but I've just, I unfortunately, I've been deprived of the opportunity to admit I was wrong

00:53:39.860 because I've just literally never been wrong about a single thing ever. That's the problem.

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00:56:44.300 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:56:52.060 You know, I try to have fun in this segment wherever I can.

00:56:55.240 I try to keep it lighthearted.

00:56:56.820 Well, maybe not lighthearted, but at least not as heavy as the rest of the show.

00:57:00.560 I mean, that's not true either, I guess.

00:57:01.920 Yesterday we talked about porn addiction here.

00:57:03.880 So maybe, well, anyway, the point is that sometimes I like to use this segment as an opportunity to discuss topics

00:57:08.700 that are slightly less serious.

00:57:09.860 But today will not be one of those days, unfortunately.

00:57:12.800 Today we have to talk about pain, about suffering, about emotional trauma, about horror and tragedy, about death.

00:57:20.320 Maybe not physical death, but the death of hope, of joy, of peace.

00:57:24.580 We have to talk about a terribly evil person who has done an unspeakably terrible thing.

00:57:29.820 As you've probably already guessed, we have to talk about me.

00:57:32.820 This past spring, you may recall, I toured college campuses across the country and I shared my ideas about human biology.

00:57:40.640 And namely, my one radical idea about human biology is that it exists.

00:57:45.100 It is a thing, which is a point of view that stands in direct opposition to the left,

00:57:48.580 which claims that human biology is most decidedly not a thing at all.

00:57:52.880 My college tour turned out to be an unmitigated disaster.

00:57:56.680 Not for me.

00:57:57.560 I mean, from my vantage point, it was great.

00:57:59.560 The talks were very well attended.

00:58:00.760 I had a lot of fun, but for the leftists on these campuses, my mere presence was a source of great personal suffering.

00:58:07.500 They ran through the streets, weeping and wailing.

00:58:09.480 They screamed and screeched.

00:58:10.880 They dumped marbles in the hallways.

00:58:13.460 They pulled fire alarms.

00:58:14.760 They ripped out pages of the Bible and ate them.

00:58:17.180 These are all very real things that they actually did, but you can't blame them for it.

00:58:21.580 I mean, who among us has not become so upset by someone else's opinion that we dumped marbles and consumed ancient scriptures in a fit of rage?

00:58:28.080 It's a classic coping mechanism, so let's not judge them for it.

00:58:33.020 So I knew that my presence was traumatic for the left-wing students on campus.

00:58:37.460 I still continued my tour, though, even in spite of their pleas and their cries.

00:58:41.360 And I continued because I had an obligation to the student groups that had invited me.

00:58:45.500 And also I continued because I found the whole spectacle, well, hilarious.

00:58:49.000 But little did I know that the carnage I was causing extended far beyond the campuses themselves.

00:58:56.500 Here's the Daily Wire with the report, quote,

00:58:58.360 A recent Matt Walsh appearance at New Mexico State University upset two New Mexico state senators so much

00:59:03.200 that they're now asking the university to address the policies that allowed Walsh to speak on campus.

00:59:08.780 Democrat state senators Carrie Hamblin and William Souls,

00:59:13.560 along with seven other state, county, and municipal government officials, signed the letter late last month

00:59:18.660 addressed to the NMSU Board of Regents interim president.

00:59:23.440 In the letter, the officials expressed their extreme disappointment

00:59:26.380 that the university allowed Walsh to speak on campus at a Young America's for Freedom event in April.

00:59:31.580 The letter, first reported by YAF, accused Walsh of encouraging violence and spouting racist and pro-slavery rhetoric.

00:59:37.720 The officials also accused Walsh of minimizing accusations against known pedophiles and child abusers

00:59:42.660 without providing any basis to level that accusation.

00:59:46.440 So yes, apparently my physical presence in the state of New Mexico for less than 24 hours

00:59:50.840 was a source of extreme anguish, not just for the students at the school,

00:59:54.340 but also for a collection of state and county political leaders

00:59:57.320 who have now come together to demand that I never be allowed to speak on campus ever again.

01:00:02.760 Now, this may seem like a slight overreaction,

01:00:05.420 but in fairness, we haven't read the letter yet.

01:00:09.080 Maybe they make a good case.

01:00:11.080 Maybe I did something to deserve this level of condemnation from elected officials in the state.

01:00:15.920 Maybe I physically assaulted a student.

01:00:18.080 You know, maybe I physically assaulted somebody when I was there.

01:00:20.160 Maybe I stopped in the middle of my talk and pulled out a sword

01:00:24.120 and single-handedly decapitated 200 members of the audience like a scene from Kill Bill.

01:00:29.560 Maybe. I mean, this would certainly warrant a ban from campus, I think,

01:00:33.040 though it would also mean that I put on easily the most entertaining college talk of all time.

01:00:37.300 So let's find out if I did anything like that.

01:00:39.420 Here's the letter signed by, along with the two already mentioned,

01:00:42.960 State Representative Angelica Rubio,

01:00:46.740 Council Mayor Pro Tem Cassandra Gandara,

01:00:50.080 City Councilors Becky Corrin, Johanna Bencomo, and Becky Graham,

01:00:54.700 and Donna Ann County Commissioners Shannon Reynolds and Christopher Hernandez.

01:01:00.200 So these are all the people that signed the letter.

01:01:02.440 It says this, quote,

01:01:04.460 During the month of June, in towns and cities all across the country,

01:01:07.380 the LGBTQI plus community celebrates pride,

01:01:10.240 recognizing the contributions that queer individuals have had on our history

01:01:13.820 and emphasizing the need for more protection, safety, and fairness in all aspects of life.

01:01:19.100 And yet, since January, over 560 anti-trans laws have been introduced in state legislatures.

01:01:24.860 These laws attack the safety and mere existence of trans individuals.

01:01:27.980 According to the Trevor Project, a queer person will consider suicide every 45 seconds.

01:01:33.320 I'd like that to sink in every 45 seconds.

01:01:37.400 Yes, let's pause and allow that utterly fabricated statistic from a left-wing activist group to sink in.

01:01:44.520 Just pause and really consider that thing that they totally just made up.

01:01:48.820 And I know they made it up because there's no possible way to tabulate down to the very second

01:01:55.220 how often an entire group of people considers something.

01:02:00.180 Now, of course, even if you could come up with this kind of calculation,

01:02:03.260 even if it was accurate,

01:02:05.500 it wouldn't be relevant to me or my talk at New Mexico State University

01:02:09.560 or anything else that I've said and done.

01:02:10.900 There is evidence that suicidality is higher among LGBT-identified people,

01:02:17.140 and especially those in the T category.

01:02:19.260 But the claim that this is because of a lack of affirmation from people like myself

01:02:22.560 is pure baseless speculation.

01:02:25.080 It is a politically convenient assumption,

01:02:27.920 not remotely borne out by the facts.

01:02:30.740 After all, as I've often pointed out,

01:02:32.160 if a lack of affirmation causes trans suicide,

01:02:35.120 then we should see the suicide rate plummeting

01:02:37.940 as society becomes more and more affirming.

01:02:40.780 Fifty years ago, society did not affirm transness at all,

01:02:44.660 anywhere, at any level.

01:02:47.040 Today, it's affirmed by everyone from the federal government

01:02:49.460 to the Fortune 500.

01:02:51.300 Is the suicide rate significantly lower for trans-identified people

01:02:54.580 as a result of that increase in affirmation?

01:02:57.220 Well, there's simply no evidence of that.

01:03:00.200 Anyway, let's get back to the letter.

01:03:01.900 Maybe we'll get to the point where I start chopping off heads.

01:03:03.780 I don't know.

01:03:04.140 We'll keep reading.

01:03:05.800 Quote,

01:03:06.100 Okay, well, that is just beyond the page.

01:03:34.140 I mean, completely false and out of line.

01:03:36.760 I am not a self-proclaimed transphobe of the year.

01:03:39.940 I was awarded that title fair and square.

01:03:42.480 I did not make it up for myself.

01:03:44.160 This has not stolen valor.

01:03:45.580 Okay, I was given that.

01:03:48.760 Also, of course, everything else in that paragraph

01:03:50.600 is made up nonsense.

01:03:51.700 I have never done any of the things they accused me of

01:03:54.260 or said any of the things they just accused me of saying.

01:03:56.740 So no big deal there.

01:03:58.100 Just brazen defamation from a group of elected officials.

01:04:02.200 Another day at the office, I suppose.

01:04:04.760 Continuing, it says,

01:04:05.460 And to add to the already horrific list of qualities Walsh possesses,

01:04:09.880 he was quoted on March 31st, 2023 as saying,

01:04:12.580 quote,

01:04:13.120 All of us today would be in a worse spot if slavery never existed at all across the entire globe

01:04:17.380 because a change that significant would likely shift the course of events in a way

01:04:20.660 that would mean none of us would even exist.

01:04:22.800 It would mean a world full of other people who are not us.

01:04:25.300 Yes, I did say that.

01:04:28.320 I did, in fact, say that objectively and obviously true thing.

01:04:32.380 So they caught me on that one.

01:04:34.340 The letter goes on for a while longer, and it ends this way.

01:04:38.460 Listen to this.

01:04:39.160 There is no disagreement to the right to free speech

01:04:42.440 and the need to hear diverse points of view.

01:04:44.660 However, studies show that trans people are more likely to experience mental health struggles,

01:04:48.840 including anxiety, depression, PTSD, and thoughts of suicide.

01:04:52.200 Welcoming a speaker who spouts harm and violence to a portion of the student population

01:04:56.160 is contradictory to NMSU values.

01:04:59.000 In the 2023 New Mexico legislative session,

01:05:02.160 the modification to the Human Rights Act were adopted,

01:05:04.360 providing a pathway for disabled and queer individuals to seek justice for discrimination.

01:05:09.120 These modifications included holding public institutions,

01:05:11.820 including state agencies, universities, and churches

01:05:13.640 that receive taxpayer monies from discriminating against them because of who they are.

01:05:18.420 NMSU had a responsibility to shield trans and queer students,

01:05:21.860 many of whom were disregarded when expressing their concerns and fears because of the Walsh event.

01:05:26.540 The letter then concludes by urging the university to explain its rationale for allowing me to speak there

01:05:32.440 in spite of the fact that I, quote,

01:05:34.060 frighten and harm trans people.

01:05:36.340 It is demanded that they take steps to prevent, quote,

01:05:39.160 future emotional and psychological damage.

01:05:42.640 As for me going berserk and decapitating audience members,

01:05:45.400 the letter never mentions it.

01:05:47.060 Maybe that's because I never did physically assault, kill, or maim anyone,

01:05:49.900 or maybe it's because they didn't think it was worth mentioning

01:05:52.100 because they were too busy talking about the trans people whose feelings I hurt.

01:05:55.460 We'll never know for sure.

01:05:57.160 As for what they did say, it's once again a whole load of nonsense.

01:06:01.820 You know, they claim that there's no disagreement with the right to free speech.

01:06:06.520 Actually, they say there's no disagreement to the right to free speech

01:06:09.220 because the authors of this letter have the writing skills of third graders.

01:06:13.120 But even after affirming free speech in their semi-literate way,

01:06:18.740 they then proceed in the very next sentence to insist

01:06:20.840 that free speech rights are null and void if a trans person feels bad.

01:06:25.840 They affirm free speech so long as the speech doesn't give anyone in the LGBT club

01:06:31.400 a case of the SADS, in which case there is no free speech.

01:06:35.560 Perhaps most shockingly, they then claim that allowing me to speak

01:06:38.740 amounts to discrimination against trans students.

01:06:42.180 In other words, not discriminating against me

01:06:45.260 is discrimination against trans people.

01:06:48.620 This is how human rights work on the left

01:06:51.240 because they have no coherent view of human rights.

01:06:53.380 They cannot even explain what a human right is

01:06:55.240 or define the term, which is a common problem on that side of the aisle.

01:06:58.300 So for them, according to their half-baked conceptions,

01:07:01.340 human rights are a zero-sum game.

01:07:03.300 To give one group rights is to take rights away from another,

01:07:07.240 which means that they simply have to decide

01:07:09.160 which group should win in that contest.

01:07:11.540 And that contest is really no contest at all,

01:07:13.860 as far as they're concerned.

01:07:15.740 Indeed, this is what protected classes are all about.

01:07:17.960 This is why they make those designations to begin with.

01:07:20.900 It's to decide who gets all the rights and who gets none.

01:07:24.880 Except that the rights that they grant to their favorite groups

01:07:27.280 are not real human rights at all.

01:07:29.240 You know, they're not rights bestowed on us by God

01:07:31.160 as a fundamental aspect of our human nature

01:07:33.020 and our dignity as human beings.

01:07:35.520 No, what they're talking about are invented rights,

01:07:37.780 the right to never be challenged,

01:07:39.200 the right to never feel sad,

01:07:40.920 the right to be affirmed,

01:07:42.140 the right to be insulated from opposing viewpoints,

01:07:45.560 the right to be the only person in the room allowed to speak.

01:07:49.700 These are the rights they give

01:07:51.300 to their magical protected groups.

01:07:53.000 The rest of us are supposed to simply shut up and go alone,

01:07:56.280 which is something that I've never been very good at doing,

01:07:59.420 and I don't plan on doing now.

01:08:01.300 In fact, I am so inspired by this letter

01:08:03.860 that now I really want to go back

01:08:06.620 to New Mexico State University and give another speech.

01:08:09.220 It is a public university.

01:08:11.380 No elected official has any legal right to stop me.

01:08:14.980 Now, of course, the problem is that the student group would need to get funding,

01:08:18.280 which may be very difficult to obtain now,

01:08:20.040 which is why I'll fly down there and give the speech for free,

01:08:23.100 simply despite these pathetic, spineless, cry-bully tyrants.

01:08:27.380 That's my offer to the YAF chapter on campus.

01:08:30.460 Let's do another event.

01:08:32.320 Let's make it even bigger.

01:08:34.140 And let's make these people cry even harder this time.

01:08:37.360 There is virtue in making bullies cry.

01:08:40.340 Plus, it's a lot of fun.

01:08:42.380 And that is why the New Mexico officials who wrote this letter are today canceled.

01:08:47.120 And that'll do it for the show today.

01:08:50.420 Thanks for watching.

01:08:51.180 Thanks for listening.

01:08:52.000 Have a great day.

01:08:53.380 Godspeed.

01:08:53.780 We'll see you soon.

01:08:55.900 We'll see you soon.

01:08:56.840 Bye.

01:08:57.800 Bye.

01:08:59.820 Bye.

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The Matt Walsh Show - September 06, 2023

Ep. 1216 - Guy Who Wasn’t Even At The Capitol On January 6th Gets 22 Years In Prison Anyway

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