The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1218 - Why The Most Powerful Forces In Society Want You To Be Single, Childless, and Selfish

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Wall Show, another female celebrity has come out to encourage women to get divorced by the age of 30. 0.86

00:00:05.600 This is part of a campaign by powerful forces, including the federal government and corporate America,

00:00:09.660 to encourage young people to be selfish, single, and materialistic.

00:00:12.980 Today we'll see how deep this conspiracy goes and what's really driving it.

00:00:16.560 Also, Tucker Carlson interviews a man who claims he had sex and smoked crack with Barack Obama,

00:00:21.440 and a new expose reveals the emotional trauma suffered by the staff at The Tonight Show.

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00:01:57.800 In the midst of the Me Too hysteria, when everyone was fixating on Aziz Ansari's bad date and Brett Kavanaugh's phantom gang rape trains,

00:02:06.800 researchers at Morgan Stanley had a very different focus.

00:02:09.900 They were concerned, as you might imagine, about the financial ramifications of the modern feminist movement.

00:02:15.460 So they sent an analysis to their corporate clients looking into the economic impact of this new wave of feminism that was overtaking the country. 1.00

00:02:24.240 And here was their top-line conclusion.

00:02:26.360 By 2030, Morgan Stanley wrote,

00:02:27.960 More than 45% of working women aged 25 to 44 in the United States will be single.

00:02:33.980 And if that prediction holds, it would be the highest percentage of single working-age women in this country's history by a large margin. 0.89

00:02:42.180 The economic impacts Morgan Stanley predicted would be significant.

00:02:45.760 Morgan Stanley quoted one researcher as saying,

00:02:47.860 We find that single women outspend the average household, shifting spending policies toward categories most poised to benefit from the demographic growth in single women with rising incomes.

00:02:58.660 Those categories include apparel, automotive, entertainment, dining.

00:03:03.260 Like most research that consultants charge millions of dollars to produce, none of that is terribly surprising.

00:03:09.220 When women don't get married, they tend to climb the corporate ladder. 1.00

00:03:11.860 They're invested more in their jobs, and they earn money that they don't spend on kids, they spend on themselves.

00:03:19.080 But there's one line of the Morgan Stanley report that stands out.

00:03:22.180 It's the part where Morgan Stanley specifically urges its corporate clients to encourage women to pursue this unmarried, materialistic lifestyle, 0.99

00:03:30.640 because it'll make the corporations a lot of money.

00:03:32.800 Quote,

00:03:33.140 The Morgan Stanley report, and several others like it, put all the big brands on notice that they should take a proactive role in ensuring that more women become career-driven instead of getting married and having kids.

00:03:55.600 And predictably, over the past few years, we've seen various initiatives along those lines.

00:04:00.020 Facebook, Apple, other big tech companies have begun offering to freeze the eggs of female employees, which is not for any medical reason. 0.73

00:04:09.360 They're offering it purely so that women don't get pregnant and don't take maternity leave and can spend more time on the clock. 0.96

00:04:17.300 Many companies have also started paying for out-of-state abortions.

00:04:20.880 And all of that has been widely reported.

00:04:22.840 What hasn't been covered is the extent to which influencers and celebrities, most of them beholden to these larger corporations,

00:04:30.140 are now openly campaigning all at once for women to remain single or to become single again if they made the mistake of getting married.

00:04:38.660 And you could choose to believe this is all an accident or that it's coordinated.

00:04:42.460 Whatever the case, it's clearly happening.

00:04:45.480 There have never been more famous people telling young women to stop making commitments to men.

00:04:50.160 So, for example, you may have seen this recent video from the actress and model Emily Ratajkowski.

00:04:56.900 And she has around 2.6 million followers on TikTok, where she posts videos telling random couples that their relationships won't last,

00:05:04.720 encouraging women to dress like prostitutes on Halloween, you know, content like that. 1.00

00:05:08.960 In her latest video, she extols the benefits of getting divorced by the age of 30 so that women can party and have fun while they're still young and beautiful. 0.91

00:05:18.320 Watch.

00:05:20.060 So it seems that a lot of ladies are getting divorced before they turn 30. 1.00

00:05:26.520 And as someone who got married at 26, has been separated for a little over a year, 32, I have to tell you, I don't think there's anything better.

00:05:39.140 If being in your 20s is the trenches, there is nothing better than being in your 30s, still being hot, maybe having a little bit of your own money,

00:05:48.580 figuring out what you want to do with your life, everything, and having tried that married fantasy and realizing that it's maybe not all it's cracked up to be.

00:05:57.320 And then you've got your whole life still ahead of you.

00:05:59.900 Um, so for all of those people who are stressed or feeling stressed about that, about being divorced, like it's a, it's, it's good.

00:06:09.480 Congratulations.

00:06:10.320 Congratulations.

00:06:11.920 Congratulations.

00:06:12.860 Congratulations for failing at something and not just failing at something, but failing at it so quickly.

00:06:18.740 You're divorced by 30, which means no matter when you got married, it's, it's, you, you failed at it very quickly.

00:06:24.400 So congratulations for failing, congratulations for, uh, abandoning your, your marriage vows, for not staying true to your commitments.

00:06:31.840 Congratulations.

00:06:32.740 It's an achievement, she says.

00:06:34.780 Now the caption on that video reads, personally, I find it chic to be divorced by the age of 30.

00:06:40.180 And it's extremely popular on the platform.

00:06:42.180 More than 130,000 people have liked that video.

00:06:46.640 Now this video appears to be a message of support for Sophie Turner, who, uh, is a person I didn't know existed, but apparently she does.

00:06:52.820 Apparently she's a famous actress who is now getting divorced from one of the Jonas brothers because she felt trapped by marriage and by motherhood, and she wanted to go party instead.

00:07:02.440 And so that's what she's doing.

00:07:03.940 What Emily and Sophie are doing, getting divorced in a very public fashion for avowedly selfish reasons, follows a pattern recently of famous women advising other women to either stay single and childless, or get divorced, tear their families apart, and then act like they're childless, even if they have children.

00:07:21.260 Maya Khalifa was another one that we talked about on the show a little while ago.

00:07:24.920 As shocking as it was to hear bad advice from a porn star, that's what we got.

00:07:29.480 Here's how Maya spoke to her 37 million followers about the importance of getting divorced multiple times, if possible. 1.00

00:07:37.020 Let's watch that again.

00:07:38.460 Oh, we're comparing stats.

00:07:40.120 Baby girl doesn't know that I am Tom Brady at this game.

00:07:42.700 We should not be afraid to leave these men.

00:08:03.520 We are not stuck with these people.

00:08:05.700 Marriage is not a sanctimonious thing.

00:08:09.700 It is paperwork.

00:08:11.440 It's something, it's a commitment you make to someone, but if you feel like you're not getting anything from that commitment and you're trying, you gotta go.

00:08:21.960 You gotta go.

00:08:23.180 You have to go. 0.96

00:08:24.840 I know it's difficult to fill out paperwork and to make appointments and to do all of these things, but this is your f***ing life. 0.90

00:08:32.120 Do you want to be stuck with someone? 0.95

00:08:35.340 Period.

00:08:35.860 Period.

00:08:38.040 Some more great insight there.

00:08:39.560 Now, there are other examples of this kind of messaging recently.

00:08:41.560 Lots of examples.

00:08:42.000 Chelsea Handler publicly split from her boyfriend after about a year of dating.

00:08:47.060 At the time, Handler made a point to explain that, quote, there was just some behaviors that we couldn't agree on.

00:08:52.300 And it felt to me like I would have to abandon myself, which maybe I would have been okay to do if I were 20 or 25, but I wasn't willing to do that.

00:08:59.660 Abandon yourself.

00:09:00.660 Self-sacrifice, in other words.

00:09:01.920 Self-sacrifice is a bad thing, Handler says.

00:09:04.280 And she lives by this motto.

00:09:06.060 We will give her that, encouraging others to do the same as well.

00:09:08.740 She did a whole Daily Show segment a little while ago, extolling the virtues of being selfish and childless.

00:09:14.460 Now, at this point, you're probably noticing a theme, which is that none of these women display even a modicum of interest in sacrificing anything to make their relationships, their marriages, in many cases, work out.

00:09:23.480 Instead, they're adopting, without exception, what psychologists call an external locus of control.

00:09:29.160 Everything that happens to their relationship is somebody else's fault.

00:09:32.640 Can't possibly be related to them.

00:09:34.560 And they can't conceivably do anything that might salvage their marriage.

00:09:37.280 So they move on, and they focus on themselves.

00:09:40.020 Not to belabor the point, but this is the message that young people are seeing all over the place.

00:09:44.960 To give one more example, there was also the country star Kelsey Ballerini who talked about leaving her marriage because the glitter wore off.

00:09:51.680 And it would be a disservice to herself to stay in the marriage.

00:09:54.680 I showed this clip a few months ago on the show, but here it is.

00:09:58.940 Is this person right for me?

00:10:00.180 Like, am I good with this being forever? 1.00

00:10:01.760 Am I good with him never doing the dishes ever in my life, you know, for the rest of my life or whatever those stupid things are? 0.96

00:10:07.660 How did you know that it wasn't relationship anxiety or negative intrusive voices in your head and that it was actually, like, your heart speaking? 0.98

00:10:17.180 That's a good question.

00:10:18.160 And I'm really, like, intuitive and in tune with myself and, like, my gut and my heart.

00:10:25.420 And I think for a while, you're right.

00:10:28.960 It was kind of like, okay, this is just a new phase of a relationship because relationships go through seasons, right?

00:10:34.180 And, like, it's not always going to be rainbows and butterflies.

00:10:37.240 Like, that's just not it.

00:10:38.800 And I think for a long time, I was like, oh, this is just, the glitter wears off.

00:10:47.420 That's what happens, you know?

00:10:48.400 And then you just, you get into a phase where you just, you wait for, you wait for it to come back.

00:10:53.520 And then, you know, and then sometimes it doesn't.

00:10:56.880 But at the end of the day, it is such a disservice and a dishonoring of yourself.

00:11:01.980 If you know something is not right and you stay.

00:11:06.120 But your life is so loud.

00:11:09.240 You know, you have so much going on all the time.

00:11:12.440 I think when people hear about couples counseling, then they hear about a couple getting divorced.

00:11:16.680 They're like, oh, it didn't work.

00:11:18.580 But oftentimes that is actually couples counseling working, you know?

00:11:23.000 But, like, because you realize that, like, this isn't the relationship for both of you.

00:11:27.500 And I think what's so hard is having to break your own heart and someone else's in the process of saving yourself.

00:11:36.120 An important thing to keep in mind, you know, if you're wondering, again, why I'm so skeptical of therapy and counseling, well, you just heard it there.

00:11:47.020 You go to couples counseling, and then if you get divorced, it means that the couples counseling worked because they're counseling you towards divorce.

00:11:53.320 But, you know, if there's not enough glitter, then what are you supposed to do?

00:11:57.800 Just bail.

00:11:58.660 Go party.

00:11:59.920 Whatever you do, don't think about putting in any kind of effort.

00:12:03.220 Hollywood and the media have been pushing this message for a long time.

00:12:05.520 They're doing it with maximum intensity.

00:12:07.540 That's why I started talking, started the show yesterday, talking about the insane levels of backlash I received for criticizing an influencer who promoted the child-free lifestyle as a path to happiness.

00:12:16.680 It was a relentless barrage of media coverage all over one tweet that I made on the subject, and that's because, as we talked about yesterday, they're very invested in promoting this lifestyle, which means that anyone who criticizes it must be furiously dogpiled and shut down.

00:12:31.540 The point is that there's a large-scale effort underway to convince young people, especially young women, but not just young women, to be as shallow and selfish as possible, even if it means abandoning their marriages and wrecking their families.

00:12:43.960 Lots of wealthy people and powerful forces are invested in pushing this message.

00:12:48.680 In fact, the government is pursuing it as well.

00:12:50.460 The National Bureau of Economic Research crunched the numbers on this last year, and they looked at federal and state taxes along with benefit programs.

00:12:57.820 And they found that, in effect, there's a massive marriage tax in this country.

00:13:02.520 People who decide to get married, especially low-income people, end up sacrificing roughly two years of income to the government simply because they got married.

00:13:10.780 The researchers found that, quote, absent the tax, 13.7% more low-income single families, females, rather, with children, would marry annually, and 7.5% more would be married by age 35.

00:13:22.200 The researchers also found that the Affordable Care Act, Obamacare, imposes a substantial marriage tax, quote-unquote, because people who get married stand to lose a lot of subsidies under that law.

00:13:34.280 Now, you never hear anyone talk about this, but it's true. 0.99

00:13:36.980 The government is punishing people who want to get married, especially low-income people.

00:13:41.560 It should be the opposite, incentivizing marriage, rewarding you for getting married and having families, but that's not what happens in our country today.

00:13:50.120 And that's a legacy of Barack Obama that's never mentioned.

00:13:54.860 And, of course, the current administration is continuing what Obama started.

00:13:57.520 Last year, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen testified in a hearing that abortion is good because it's good for the economy, 0.96

00:14:05.020 because it means that more women are working for large corporations. 1.00

00:14:08.120 Instead of getting married and raising kids, they could just kill the kid and then get back to work, back into the arms of their corporate masters.

00:14:15.780 Here she is talking about that.

00:14:16.840 Secretary Yellen, if the draft of the court's majority holding in Roe v. Wade is the actual decision,

00:14:27.060 what impact will the loss of abortion access mean economically for women? 1.00

00:14:31.400 Well, I believe that eliminating the right of women to make decisions about women and whether to have children 0.98

00:14:39.760 would have very damaging effects on the economy and would set women back decades. 1.00

00:14:47.680 Roe v. Wade in access to reproductive health care, including abortion, helped lead to increased labor force participation.

00:14:56.860 So there it is. Abortion leads to increased labor force participation. 1.00

00:15:02.880 Therefore, it's good.

00:15:03.740 You know, put aside the fact that aborting tens of millions of children certainly shrinks the labor force over time,

00:15:09.500 not to mention, you know, amounts to a holocaust of human beings on a scale previously unknown to mankind. 0.75

00:15:14.640 So no matter how it affects the economy, it is evil on its face fundamentally. 0.99

00:15:19.300 Still, that's the Treasury Secretary of the United States saying that women should kill their children 0.97

00:15:23.680 and pursue a career at some soulless Fortune 500 company because, in her estimation, it will boost the GDP. 0.97

00:15:29.380 There's no doubt that some of the videos we began the show with today are just women who are rationalizing their own self-destructive choices. 1.00

00:15:38.080 But it's a mistake to dismiss what we're seeing as just the idle narcissism of a few famous ditzy women on TikTok. 0.98

00:15:46.940 There are forces that profit immensely by creating a society full of self-centered automatons

00:15:52.500 who seek connection and fulfillment from pop culture and social media and all of that rather than family life.

00:16:00.480 And these forces include Morgan Stanley's clients as well as the federal government.

00:16:04.600 I mean, the most powerful forces in the country, literally.

00:16:09.260 What are the consequences for regular Americans?

00:16:12.060 Well, for women, it's not great. 1.00

00:16:13.180 And it used to be that, you could say this publicly, it used to be conventional wisdom that it's bad to encourage women to be single.

00:16:19.480 This is a Harvard Business Review analysis from 2002.

00:16:23.160 Quote,

00:16:23.620 At midlife, between a third and a half of all successful career women in the United States do not have children.

00:16:28.120 In fact, 33% of such women in the 41 to 55 age bracket are childless, and that figure rises to 42% in corporate America.

00:16:34.780 These women have not chosen to remain childless.

00:16:37.060 The vast majority, in fact, yearn for children.

00:16:38.880 Indeed, some have gone to extraordinary lengths to bring a baby into their lives.

00:16:42.520 They subject themselves to complex medical procedures, shell out tens of thousands of dollars,

00:16:46.340 and derail their careers, mostly to no avail, because these efforts come too late.

00:16:50.020 In the words of one senior manager, the typical high-achieving woman, childless at midlife, 0.82

00:16:54.380 has not made a choice, but a creeping non-choice.

00:16:58.840 Now, two decades later, that creeping non-choice has been rebranded as a positive.

00:17:04.440 You can never get any article remotely like that one published in the Harvard Business Review today.

00:17:08.640 As disastrous as this transformation has been for women's happiness and fulfillment, 0.99

00:17:14.320 it's probably even worse for men.

00:17:15.800 As we've discussed on the show, men are now using more drugs, killing themselves more than they ever have in recorded history.

00:17:23.060 And these are rates also that far exceed what we find with women. 0.86

00:17:27.020 And we shouldn't be surprised by that.

00:17:28.600 When all of society reorients to promote girl bosses and to demean the institution of marriage, 0.99

00:17:33.720 yes, women make more money in the short term, men also have fewer opportunities to start families

00:17:38.900 and fewer opportunities to make a living.

00:17:42.500 Now, in polite company, you're not supposed to say any of this.

00:17:45.020 You're not supposed to think about the ramifications of the social engineering that's underway in this country.

00:17:50.660 But whether it's acceptable to point it out or not, none of this is an accident.

00:17:54.900 From every angle, women are being told that the key to happiness is being narcissistic, selfish, 1.00

00:18:00.460 abandoning marriage, abandoning their families.

00:18:03.820 At the same time, men are being told that simply by virtue of their gender,

00:18:07.180 they're members of a patriarchy that needs to be destroyed.

00:18:10.280 That is as destructive a combination as there possibly could be.

00:18:15.340 In both cases, for men and women, the power centers are saying, essentially,

00:18:18.780 you're just a passive observer.

00:18:21.060 Women are being told that if their marriage isn't appealing, 1.00

00:18:23.740 then they don't have to do anything about it.

00:18:25.340 They should just leave. 0.79

00:18:27.220 Men are being told that no matter what they do, they're sexist bigots.

00:18:31.400 This passive approach, this total denial of personal responsibility is unsustainable.

00:18:37.360 As we're seeing again and again, no marriage can survive it.

00:18:41.760 And that's now abundantly clear.

00:18:43.900 And what we'll soon find out, if this continues, is that no civilization can survive it either.

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00:20:05.200 All right, so we'll talk about this.

00:20:07.100 I didn't get to it yesterday, and you've probably seen it or heard about it by now,

00:20:11.180 but the Daily Wire reports,

00:20:12.760 Former Fox News host Tucker Carlson interviewed a man on his show this week

00:20:16.080 who claims that he used drugs and had sexual relations with Barack Obama before Obama was president.

00:20:21.440 Carlson's interview of Larry Sinclair, who has been convicted and served significant time in jail

00:20:25.400 for crimes involving deceit, and who reportedly did not pass a polygraph test

00:20:29.440 administered in response to his allegations involving Obama,

00:20:33.080 comes after recent reports highlighted that Obama wrote in letters to an ex-girlfriend

00:20:36.260 that he sexually fantasized about men.

00:20:38.440 The interview is featured on X, formerly known as Twitter,

00:20:42.340 and we have now the full interview is now available.

00:20:46.520 Here's the preview of the interview that Tucker posted before the full interview was posted,

00:20:51.480 and this is just a quick clip that gives you an idea of the content of the interview,

00:20:57.560 but let's watch this.

00:20:58.160 You're just a guy who's in town for the night, and it sounds like you're looking to party.

00:21:02.940 Yeah.

00:21:03.440 Pulled up in a bar outside, and there's this guy that's introduced to me as Barack Obama.

00:21:09.060 I had given Barack $250 to pay for Coke.

00:21:12.540 I start putting a line on a CD tray to snort,

00:21:16.480 and next thing I know, he's got a little pipe and he's smoking.

00:21:19.980 So I just started rubbing my hand along his thigh to see where it was going,

00:21:24.060 and it went the direction I had intended it to go. 0.97

00:21:27.360 Even though you had sex with him twice, you did cocaine with him,

00:21:29.860 watched him smoke crack twice, you had no idea who he was? 0.80

00:21:32.260 I had no idea who he was.

00:21:33.960 You just asked the obvious question.

00:21:35.080 What was Obama like on crack?

00:21:37.160 Is it your sense that that's who Obama is, just transactional,

00:21:40.280 or that he's bisexual, or like, what is this?

00:21:42.280 It definitely wasn't Barack's first time,

00:21:44.380 and I would almost be willing to bet you it wasn't as long.

00:21:46.740 The guy's running for president, and credible information comes out 0.99

00:21:51.360 that he's smoking crack and having sex with dudes. 0.99

00:21:53.960 That seems like a story. 0.94

00:21:55.540 Well, it would be a story if the media really cared about telling people the truth.

00:22:03.020 Okay, so I have two thoughts about this,

00:22:06.320 and my first thought, in fact, the very first thought that I had when I saw this was,

00:22:11.080 oh, man, I don't know about this one.

00:22:15.080 I don't find this guy terribly credible, I must admit.

00:22:18.260 It's hard to look at this toothless drug addict and say,

00:22:21.820 well, you know, I believe that guy.

00:22:23.320 That guy, you know, that guy wouldn't lie.

00:22:24.820 That guy wouldn't tell a lie.

00:22:28.020 And, I mean, the claim itself on the face of it is partially believable.

00:22:32.800 Well, the idea that Obama had a sexual experience with a man,

00:22:36.180 I mean, that's very easy to believe.

00:22:38.320 That was easy to believe before those letters came out.

00:22:40.880 Now we have the letters where he talks about sexually fantasizing about men.

00:22:43.640 And so, sure, that part of it doesn't really throw you for a loop.

00:22:51.940 Smoking crack, on the other hand, I have a little bit of trouble with that.

00:22:56.320 You know, I don't have much experience with smoking crack, I admit.

00:23:00.100 Actually, I have no experience with it.

00:23:01.860 Much to my shame, I've never smoked crack in my life.

00:23:04.460 But as far as I know, you know, I admit this is based mostly on sort of stereotypes,

00:23:11.440 all the stereotypes of crackheads.

00:23:13.000 But as far as I know, smoking crack is not the kind of thing that you do casually.

00:23:18.620 Like, if you smoke crack, then you smoke crack.

00:23:22.600 You're a crack smoker. 1.00

00:23:23.620 You're a crackhead. 0.99

00:23:24.740 That's just, there's no, there's not a lot of moderation. 0.97

00:23:28.460 Okay, so that's why you don't say, well, as long as you smoke crack in moderation,

00:23:31.340 it'll be okay.

00:23:32.120 That doesn't exist.

00:23:33.680 I've never heard of anyone saying, oh, I only smoke crack socially.

00:23:39.360 Only for social events, that sort of thing.

00:23:41.340 Dinner parties, that kind of thing.

00:23:42.400 It's the only time I release it.

00:23:43.300 Otherwise, I don't.

00:23:44.720 So the idea that Barack Obama was a full-blown crackhead,

00:23:48.000 less than a decade before becoming president, is, well, that would be impressive in a weird way.

00:23:56.900 Like, in a weird way, that would be impressive.

00:23:58.320 Certainly, that would be an inspiration for other crackheads,

00:24:01.100 that you can become the president of the United States.

00:24:04.800 Doesn't speak well for this country or the voting base, but at least it would be that. 1.00

00:24:10.860 It'd be an inspiration of the crackheads.

00:24:12.420 I just don't know about that.

00:24:13.200 There are other little details, too, that make this less than credible.

00:24:18.180 One of them, you know, it seems like a small thing, but it's actually not,

00:24:21.340 that he claims that Barack Obama was introduced to him as Barack Obama,

00:24:26.560 but Barack Obama didn't start calling himself Barack Obama until he ran for president,

00:24:31.120 or at least until he got into politics.

00:24:32.340 Before that, he was Barry.

00:24:34.580 Now, it's always been one of the stories about Barack Obama,

00:24:36.660 is that the kind of fundamental fraudulence of this guy is, you know,

00:24:42.520 he starts using this name once he gets into politics, but before that, he was Barry.

00:24:49.160 So, little details and big details about this that make it less than credible.

00:24:57.480 Second thought, though, is, well, I agree with what Ben said yesterday,

00:25:03.520 which is that this guy's story isn't any less credible than the claims, for example,

00:25:11.840 made against Kavanaugh or many of the claims, many of the claims that have been made against Trump

00:25:18.260 and have been, you know, and not just the claims of sexual assault and all of that,

00:25:24.840 the claims that he assaulted someone in a dressing room at a department store,

00:25:29.580 those sorts of things, you know, have at a minimum or really at a maximum

00:25:37.520 as much credibility as this story from Larry Sinclair.

00:25:43.920 And then, you know, other claims, too, about Trump.

00:25:46.440 I mean, how about the fact that he's a Russian secret double agent,

00:25:49.880 which is what we heard in 2016?

00:25:51.080 And going back to Kavanaugh, keep in mind, during the Kavanaugh hearings,

00:25:56.380 the media sincerely advanced the notion that Kavanaugh,

00:26:00.740 not just that he raped a woman, you know, and that was, for a lot of reasons, already

00:26:09.200 an incredible claim with no credibility, and there was no evidence for it, no proof. 0.53

00:26:15.780 There was as much evidence for that as there is for the claim that Barack Obama smoked crack

00:26:24.080 and had sex with a dude back in 1999.

00:26:29.260 But they went farther than that. 0.86

00:26:30.980 I mean, remember, they also said that he was the actual ringleader of like a gang rape mafia 0.52

00:26:37.740 that prowled around town systematically victimizing and assaulting women.

00:26:43.480 And they took that claim and they amplified it.

00:26:48.580 No scrutiny whatsoever.

00:26:52.260 And we talked yesterday for a while, a theme that comes up a lot on the show

00:26:56.260 is holding the left to their own standards.

00:26:58.720 And so ultimately, I see that that's really what's happening here.

00:27:02.780 And I think that's what Tucker's up to.

00:27:04.020 It's like, you guys have set the standard here.

00:27:07.120 You know, when it's someone on our side, if anyone makes any claim at all,

00:27:13.340 it doesn't matter, there could be zero evidence, 0.73

00:27:15.600 it could be a claim that is just on its face, totally ludicrous.

00:27:20.620 But if the claim exists, then we will take it and we will amplify it

00:27:25.020 and we will take it seriously.

00:27:27.320 And we'll bring somebody on and we'll interview them

00:27:29.660 and then we'll hide behind, hey, well, we're just asking,

00:27:31.760 we don't know, we're just asking them questions about it.

00:27:33.560 We're just, we're pursuing a lead is all.

00:27:40.780 So this is once again an area where the left has set up the rules for itself

00:27:46.620 or set up two sets of rules.

00:27:49.280 And they've said, you know, you guys over here,

00:27:52.340 here are your rules that you're expected to follow.

00:27:55.200 And then here are our rules.

00:27:56.600 And our rules are that there aren't any rules.

00:27:58.140 And what we're finding more and more is that people on the right,

00:28:05.380 justifiably so, are not willing to play that game anymore.

00:28:08.940 They're saying, okay, these are your standards you've set up, then here it is.

00:28:14.660 Okay, let's talk to someone who says that Brett Kavanaugh 0.96

00:28:16.540 was the ringleader of a gang rape mafia. 0.96

00:28:18.540 That's what you're saying. 0.92

00:28:19.380 Okay, well, then let's bring in this guy who says that Barack Obama smoked crack 0.97

00:28:22.740 and had sex with him in a car in 1999.

00:28:27.360 If that's the way you guys want to play it, that's how we're going to play it.

00:28:31.200 All right, Daily Wire has this report.

00:28:33.180 Democrat state lawmakers are more unified and committed to a leftist ideology

00:28:37.520 than Republican lawmakers are to conservatism.

00:28:40.700 Shocking report.

00:28:42.180 Shocking.

00:28:42.540 This is according to the Conservative Political Action Conference, CPAC.

00:28:47.300 And of course, the irony to keep in mind as we read this report from CPAC

00:28:50.300 is that CPAC itself is very much guilty of this,

00:28:54.860 of not being at all committed to conservatism.

00:28:57.520 But putting that aside,

00:29:00.840 Republicans voted for conservative policies 77% of the time,

00:29:03.720 while Democrats voted for liberal policies 87% of the time,

00:29:06.660 according to the analysis of all 7,400 lawmakers in the 50 state houses

00:29:11.140 during last year's legislative sessions.

00:29:13.600 The study by CPAC's affiliated Center for Legislative Accountability

00:29:17.100 concluded the Democrats were more likely to stick together

00:29:20.260 on issues important to the party's base while Republicans broke apart.

00:29:24.860 Republicans run on conservative promises,

00:29:27.040 but after they win, more of them abandon the tough votes on key conservative policies

00:29:30.620 when compared to Democrats whose first rule is to stick together,

00:29:33.800 according to the group.

00:29:35.180 Our analysis shows how moderate Republicans broke apart on key issues

00:29:38.440 like parental choice and education, securing strong voter ID,

00:29:41.500 or putting a stop to COVID mandates.

00:29:43.480 The analysis found a mismatch between the desires of the populace

00:29:46.080 and how state representatives acted.

00:29:48.160 Ranking among the 10 states with the most liberal Republican lawmakers

00:29:50.920 were Mississippi, Wyoming, South Dakota, and Idaho.

00:29:54.940 That's despite Republicans holding strong majorities in those legislators

00:29:58.480 and the state's population overwhelmingly voting for Republicans

00:30:01.540 in election after election.

00:30:03.760 As a group, Mississippi Republican lawmakers had an average conservative score of 58%,

00:30:08.040 making them less conservative than Republicans in New Jersey, Maryland, and Oregon.

00:30:12.380 The state where Republicans voted most conservative was a swing state of Wisconsin.

00:30:17.620 So, you know, I was being sarcastic earlier about how this is a shocking report.

00:30:21.560 It's actually not shocking.

00:30:23.500 That part is somewhat surprising, I will admit,

00:30:26.160 that according to this report anyway,

00:30:28.020 the most liberal Republican lawmakers are in Mississippi, Wyoming, South Dakota, and Idaho.

00:30:33.940 Whereas you would expect, you would expect New Jersey, Maryland, those sorts of states

00:30:39.080 to have the most liberal Republican lawmakers.

00:30:41.020 According to this report, that's not the case.

00:30:42.580 But the overall theme here is one that is, of course, not a shock at all.

00:30:49.020 That Republicans get into office, and we know that this is the case.

00:30:55.160 Republicans get into office, and they make a lot of promises on the way in.

00:30:59.140 And they say a lot of things, especially in the primaries.

00:31:02.700 And then when it's time to actually use that power to advance that agenda,

00:31:07.180 they get squeamish.

00:31:11.500 And the argument always is, for as long as I can remember,

00:31:15.360 the argument has always been that, well, we can't do that.

00:31:20.480 We can't advance this agenda.

00:31:21.600 We can't actually enact a conservative policy because that'll make the other side angry at us. 0.85

00:31:30.140 And then when they get into power, think about all the things that they'll do in retaliation.

00:31:35.280 And so we'll just head them off at the pass by abandoning our promises ahead of time.

00:31:41.440 And so then they won't be mad at us.

00:31:43.160 And then when they're in power, they'll take it easy on us.

00:31:47.100 You know, a little bit of sports.

00:31:48.280 There'll be good sports about it.

00:31:49.380 A little bit of sportsmanship.

00:31:50.180 Yeah, well, how well has that worked?

00:31:57.360 And the only question now is, we know this is the case with Republicans.

00:32:00.320 It's been the case again for as long as I've been alive.

00:32:02.780 Is there any chance that it's getting better?

00:32:05.920 We learned our lesson.

00:32:07.820 We learned our lesson that, you know, if you're a conservative lawmaker,

00:32:11.020 a conservative politician, you get elected.

00:32:14.600 That's automatically a mandate.

00:32:16.200 That's the voters elected you.

00:32:17.360 They want what you ran on.

00:32:20.240 That's what they want.

00:32:21.080 That's why they elected you.

00:32:23.600 So use the power at your disposal to push the agenda through.

00:32:28.000 Have we learned that lesson?

00:32:32.460 I think that all indications are that we haven't.

00:32:35.400 More specifically, the Republicans haven't.

00:32:39.040 I mean, in fact, look at one of the criticisms of, let's take someone like DeSantis.

00:32:47.140 One of the criticisms, one of the big criticisms, in fact, I just saw some people tweeting about this yesterday.

00:32:54.220 One of the big criticisms of DeSantis, for example, from people on the right is that he signed an abortion ban into law.

00:33:01.500 And that was a big miscalculation to sign the abortion ban into law.

00:33:07.820 In fact, you hear alleged conservatives, not just when it comes to DeSantis,

00:33:11.260 but you hear alleged conservatives all the time lamenting the fact that Roe v. Wade was overturned,

00:33:18.260 that some Republican legislatures are actually passing laws banning abortion at a certain stage of development.

00:33:27.940 And anyway, and some Republican governors are signing these bills into law.

00:33:35.900 And you hear conservatives complaining about that.

00:33:38.560 Well, we're going to pay a price for that in the election.

00:33:41.940 The liberals are going to be mad at us. 1.00

00:33:45.020 Well, you know, the liberals, you know how much they enjoy killing babies. 0.99

00:33:47.520 So if we stop them, think of how mad they're going to be if we stop them from killing babies. 0.98

00:33:52.760 So we just shouldn't.

00:33:54.280 As I've always said about that, even I do not buy the argument that protecting babies from being murdered is so unpopular in this country

00:34:08.380 that if you do it, you have signed your political death certificate, death warrant, and you'll never be elected again.

00:34:15.480 I don't buy that.

00:34:16.460 And you know what?

00:34:18.700 If that is the case, then we're just done as a country anyway.

00:34:22.480 If we're at the point as a country where if you come out as being against the mass slaughter of infants,

00:34:29.780 you're automatically dead in the eyes of the electorate.

00:34:33.360 If that's what we are as a country, then we're just, we're done.

00:34:35.220 But I don't believe that's the case politically.

00:34:42.240 I'm not convinced of it.

00:34:45.540 But whether it's the case or not, you know, you have to, protecting babies from being killed is worth doing on its own terms.

00:34:56.680 It's just the kind of thing you have to do if you can.

00:35:03.340 It's like if you were, if you were watching and you were in the room as someone was about to murder a child,

00:35:11.280 would you stop and say, well, if I intervene here, how's popular, how's that going to pull?

00:35:16.460 How's that going to work in the polls?

00:35:17.780 How are people going to feel about that?

00:35:19.140 I don't know.

00:35:19.680 I don't know if I should intervene.

00:35:20.640 No, you intervene.

00:35:21.380 You protect the child's life.

00:35:22.420 And you do it not because you're a Republican, but because you're a human being, for God's sake.

00:35:33.760 So there are some things that you just have to do because it's the right thing to do.

00:35:39.340 And if that makes you unpopular, then so be it.

00:35:45.640 But if it does make you unpopular, again, I mean, that's a failure of communication.

00:35:50.140 If people are really that confused about why we should protect babies from being murdered,

00:35:54.740 then we need to be able to explain that and make that case.

00:35:59.600 But the point is that the fact that people, that even conservatives still today,

00:36:05.040 lamenting Roe v. Wade being overturned, lamenting when pro-life laws are put on the books,

00:36:11.440 it only shows that, you know, what this study is showing here is just going to continue.

00:36:18.720 And it hasn't gotten any better, unfortunately.

00:36:21.640 All right, here's an article in Yahoo that I think is a perfect example of how left-wing propagandists

00:36:28.620 use misdirection and red herrings in order to advance their agenda,

00:36:32.840 especially when it comes to the trans issue.

00:36:35.440 So this is a long article.

00:36:36.460 We'll read a little bit of it just so you get a sense of it.

00:36:40.100 It's from Yahoo.

00:36:40.900 It says,

00:36:41.100 Activist and author Alicia Roth-Weigel knows firsthand that gender-affirming care bans harm far more than just trans people.

00:37:11.960 This is an intersex person, activist and author, knows this firsthand.

00:37:16.760 She just, she's, she, I'm skipping ahead a little bit.

00:37:19.340 In a TikTok video by the Washington Post, Roth-Weigel, an activist and author of the memoir Inverse Cowgirl,

00:37:25.040 which details her experiences living as an intersex woman in one of the nexuses of the anti-trans movement, Texas,

00:37:31.200 she described precisely why gender-affirming care bans harm more people than many realize.

00:37:35.640 Intersex is a natural variation in humans in which a person is born with reproductive or sexual anatomy

00:37:40.360 that doesn't conform to the usual definitions of male and female.

00:37:43.140 Some intersex people, like Roth-Weigel, also have chromosomes that fall outside of the usual male or female arrangements

00:37:47.580 or that don't accord with their anatomy.

00:37:49.560 As she explained in the video,

00:37:51.300 Despite having XY chromosomes, despite being born with internal testes, I developed looking very female.

00:37:56.980 As frequently happens with intersex babies, Roth-Weigel was operated upon in infancy to remove her testes, 0.99

00:38:03.500 despite the fact that had my testes remained intact,

00:38:06.180 my body would have taken the testosterone that they produced and automatically converted it to estrogen.

00:38:10.840 Instead, the procedure, quote,

00:38:11.920 And then there's another example, Justin T. Brown, a man who wrote candidly in 2022 of his teenage struggle

00:38:27.440 with gynecomastia, a disorder in which men develop breasts.

00:38:31.980 Thankfully, he came of age in an era before today's politicians began their anti-trans crusade.

00:38:37.360 He was able to obtain breast reduction surgery, a procedure.

00:38:40.340 He would now be legally barred from obtaining in several states in the country.

00:38:43.980 Okay.

00:38:46.200 As I said, misdirection, red herring, bringing up things that are totally irrelevant to the issue at hand.

00:38:52.680 So we have a claim here, this last claim, just taking this, zeroing on this for a second.

00:38:58.780 So this is a, they're telling us, a man, an actual biological male,

00:39:03.900 who had a, who had a, a, an actual medical disorder where he developed breasts.

00:39:12.340 And so he got a surgery to deal with that, but to deal with that medical disorder,

00:39:17.080 that medical disorder that has a name, we know what it is.

00:39:20.180 It can be diagnosed and then you can treat it.

00:39:23.480 And the claim that they're making, and this is what they, this is what they love to do.

00:39:27.120 They, they, they, they say, well, with these, with these bands on quote, uh, trans healthcare,

00:39:32.260 that means that we're not going to be able to help people like this.

00:39:34.760 That is totally false.

00:39:36.040 I mean, to begin with, it's just a false claim.

00:39:39.300 You know, these laws, most of these laws, certainly the law I can say in Tennessee,

00:39:42.580 they have, they have specific carve outs for situations like this that, you know, we're not going to.

00:39:51.020 So for example, um, a double mastectomy, uh, a cosmetic, a double mastectomy on, you know, a minor

00:40:00.740 in the, in the name of, of gender affirmation is not legal, but there's an actual medical disorder.

00:40:10.300 Well, let's say if breast cancer or something, well then obviously in that case, it's okay.

00:40:15.440 And it's very easy to carve that out and to specify that.

00:40:20.680 You have disorders like precocious puberty, for example, a real disorder where a kid might need

00:40:26.700 to take medicine because puberty has, uh, the onset of puberty comes much, much earlier than it's

00:40:31.940 supposed to naturally because of this disorder.

00:40:34.460 Um, it's very easy to take those kinds of situations and carve them out and say, well,

00:40:41.100 that's not what we're talking about here.

00:40:44.300 The whole, the whole category intersects people that men that have disorders where they develop

00:40:49.960 breasts that, that, that, that whole category has nothing to do with trans whatsoever. 0.82

00:40:55.500 It's an entirely separate thing.

00:41:00.000 And they want to conflate these things because people over in the trans camp, they know they

00:41:06.440 have no argument and they know that there's, there's no actual medical need for any of this

00:41:11.440 is entirely cosmetic.

00:41:14.780 So they want to rope in these cases over here and make a comparison where the comparison is

00:41:19.400 just not legitimate.

00:41:20.100 That that's the whole reason, the whole, the whole reason why intersex is included now in

00:41:27.320 the LGBTQI, whatever acronym, there's an I in there somewhere and it's for intersex.

00:41:32.800 They included in there, they, they, they have a symbol for intersex people on the newest version

00:41:38.580 of the pride flag.

00:41:39.640 I think it's the little circle on the pride flag is supposed to be intersex.

00:41:43.820 The whole reason why they have been kind of a lassoed and pulled into this. 0.79

00:41:50.100 Intersex is because their existence is convenient for trans. 0.99

00:41:55.600 It's, it's useful to the trans, to the T.

00:41:58.640 The I is in there because the T can make use of it by conflating themselves with the I. 0.59

00:42:08.400 When these things are not related at all, they have nothing to do with each other.

00:42:13.980 Intersex, once again, is a, is a genetic anomaly.

00:42:17.740 It's a deformity. 0.98

00:42:20.220 It's a disorder.

00:42:22.800 That means that it doesn't mean that a person is a third sex.

00:42:26.100 It doesn't mean that they don't have a sex.

00:42:27.880 It doesn't mean that there are sex other than male or female.

00:42:30.340 All it means in this very small minority of cases is that it can be difficult to determine

00:42:34.800 the sex just by looking.

00:42:37.920 Almost everyone on the planet, that's not the case.

00:42:39.780 Almost everyone on the planet, it's very easy to determine male or female.

00:42:42.300 You can tell just by looking when the baby is born, the doctor can, can make that declaration

00:42:47.520 and it's going to be correct 99.9% of the time because there's, there's nothing ambiguous

00:42:54.500 about it.

00:42:55.660 Very small number of cases.

00:42:57.160 There is some ambiguity, ambiguity to it because of a physical deformity that can be diagnosed.

00:43:03.440 And there might be certain treatments that you have to, you know, that you have to avail

00:43:08.420 yourself of because of that disorder, which again, has nothing to do with trans whatsoever.

00:43:13.940 Other than that though, I guess they raise a good point.

00:43:17.460 Let's get to, uh, was Walsh wrong?

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00:44:28.440 Jay Fiza says, have political pundits ever talked to a homeless person?

00:44:32.300 Homelessness isn't caused by normal middle class people taking drugs.

00:44:35.720 Homelessness is primarily caused by broken families, generational poverty, childhood trauma,

00:44:40.080 lack of support, etc.

00:44:40.820 If you talk to people who are homeless, oftentimes they will tell themselves that they started off

00:44:44.680 very disadvantaged.

00:44:47.020 They had drug-addicted parents, so they were always around drugs and could get hooked when

00:44:51.820 they're kids.

00:44:52.780 They've always had a sense of hopelessness and despair in their lives.

00:44:55.560 It's unfortunately why so many homeless people are actually comfortable being homeless.

00:45:00.780 I think that almost everyone recognizes that.

00:45:03.680 I think that most political pundits recognize that.

00:45:06.200 I assume you're referring to me when you're talking about political pundits.

00:45:09.600 I recognize that.

00:45:11.000 Nothing I said about homelessness yesterday contradicts what you said.

00:45:14.460 I mean, these two things work together.

00:45:17.520 I never claimed that most homeless people were living in the suburbs and living kind of normal

00:45:24.240 middle class functional lives and then randomly decided to start doing drugs, heroin, meth or

00:45:31.660 something, and then ended up on the street.

00:45:34.060 There are cases like that, I'm sure, but those are not most of the cases.

00:45:37.980 I'm, yes, I'm quite certain that most of the cases are kind of what you're talking about.

00:45:43.460 Like, if you were to take a, go to any random homeless person who's laying on the street

00:45:48.520 on a cardboard box and you were to ask them about their childhood, you're probably going

00:45:53.900 to find out that they did not have a very good childhood.

00:45:56.360 And it's highly likely that you're going to find out that they came from poverty and the 1.00

00:45:59.860 broken homes.

00:46:00.620 As you say, dad wasn't in the picture.

00:46:03.340 In fact, we know, we know that there are plenty of statistics and research on this, that just

00:46:09.220 simply having a fatherless home increases the chances of homelessness for the child later

00:46:13.300 in life exponentially.

00:46:14.680 So we know all that.

00:46:18.380 That's, that's more, that, that is making my point, not debunking it because all this speaks

00:46:25.580 to the fact that once again, the, the fundamental problem for the homeless person is not simply

00:46:33.000 that they don't have a home.

00:46:34.300 It's not simply that they don't have a roof over their head.

00:46:36.560 That is a symptom.

00:46:37.720 It's a serious symptom and it is a problem in its own right, obviously, but it is ultimately,

00:46:44.740 it's not the cause of the problem.

00:46:48.300 And if, if you solve that, if you just put a roof over their head, um, what you're going

00:46:53.940 to find out most of the time is that it won't be long before they are once again, roofless

00:46:59.160 because all these other things, drug abuse, mental illness, uh, childhood trauma, all of

00:47:07.640 this stuff is still there.

00:47:10.760 And the homelessness is a, is a, is a manifestation of all of that.

00:47:17.160 Which means that if we want to do something about the homeless epidemic, it's not as simple

00:47:23.200 as just throwing money at it, giving them a place to stay, that's not going to solve

00:47:27.840 the problem.

00:47:30.740 So I think, I think actually we agree, which is good.

00:47:33.220 Uh, Banks Peninsula says, Matt, you would have sounded more credible if you'd said, I like

00:47:39.740 to judge people and tell them how to live because freedom is evil.

00:47:42.940 That way, at least you wouldn't have sounded like a garden variety, right-wing misogynist

00:47:46.680 just saying.

00:47:49.960 Yeah, this is one of my favorite kind of comments when we talk about, you know, lifestyle choices

00:47:55.220 people make.

00:47:55.940 And yesterday it was about women promoting childlessness. 0.99

00:47:58.700 And I give my opinion about it and I say, you know, I don't think that's the best way

00:48:04.560 to live actually.

00:48:05.920 And then I'm told that I'm somehow infringing, well, let them live how they want.

00:48:09.220 Stop taking away their freedom.

00:48:11.900 Just by sharing my opinion, I'm what, removing someone's freedom to live how they want.

00:48:16.900 Yeah, you, you do have, you have the freedom to basically live how you want.

00:48:20.800 Within the bounds of the law, you have the freedom to live how you want.

00:48:23.280 And if you want to live a selfish, narcissistic life and you want to not have kids and you

00:48:27.380 want to, you know, devote yourself entirely to materialistic pursuits and amusing yourself

00:48:31.660 and all of that, and you want to die alone, I mean, you're, you're, you're free to do that.

00:48:38.660 No one is, no one's saying that you're not.

00:48:43.220 But the rest of us are free to, to share our views on the right way to actually live.

00:48:48.740 And the thing is, we all have views on that, right?

00:48:51.660 We all have views on like, what is the actual right way?

00:48:55.540 How do we best find happiness and joy?

00:49:00.100 What is the best path towards human flourishing?

00:49:04.000 That is the actual fundamental question here that we're, that we are debating.

00:49:08.640 And we all have our view on that.

00:49:11.820 For some people, their view is, well, the path to human flourishing is to live for yourself.

00:49:16.000 As Chelsea Handler said, don't abandon yourself.

00:49:20.020 Don't, don't, don't engage in self-sacrifice, live for yourself.

00:49:23.980 That is a view.

00:49:24.820 That's a point of view that I happen to think is wrong.

00:49:27.880 MT says, what an extremely lucky man you are, Matt.

00:49:30.940 You've never been depressed or suicidal.

00:49:32.540 You've never suffered through an addiction.

00:49:34.120 I'm glad you're so strong, but not all of us are.

00:49:36.460 And telling people they can just stop doing something will never give them the courage to try.

00:49:40.440 A much better way to help someone you care about fight their addictions is to encourage them,

00:49:43.980 make them accountable, walk through the baby steps with them little by little,

00:49:47.180 making tiny efforts every day that will lead to freedom from their addiction.

00:49:50.440 With this approach, they won't feel helpless at the beginning.

00:49:52.280 It'll seem manageable.

00:49:53.380 And with you to guide and encourage them, they will get through it.

00:49:56.300 Because guess what?

00:49:57.000 It is an addiction and you can't just stop.

00:50:00.440 But you can.

00:50:01.220 I mean, you're talking about pornography here.

00:50:03.320 I'm not, I'm not denying the existence of addictions.

00:50:06.260 Addictions do exist.

00:50:08.200 You can be addicted to heroin.

00:50:10.320 That's for sure.

00:50:11.080 You can be addicted to hard drugs.

00:50:13.280 You can be chemically dependent on them.

00:50:16.420 You can be so dependent that if you stop taking them all at once, you might die.

00:50:21.520 And even if you don't die, you're going to be in severe physical pain, suffering the pains of withdrawal.

00:50:27.160 So that does exist.

00:50:30.280 Porn is not one of those things.

00:50:32.900 And simply just reasserting, restating your assertion is not an argument.

00:50:38.660 Okay, I laid out my whole argument for why addiction is one category and the compulsion to watch porn is in a different category.

00:50:46.620 It's a different kind of thing.

00:50:48.020 And all I've seen are comments like this that are just, they're not arguments.

00:50:51.640 It's not a counter argument.

00:50:52.720 You're just restating your assertion.

00:50:54.640 You're saying, no, but it is.

00:50:57.240 Nuh-uh.

00:50:58.220 That's not an argument.

00:51:00.380 Are you actually telling me that, let's put the words aside for a moment, okay?

00:51:05.800 On one hand, you have someone hooked on heroin, who if they stop taking it all at once, they'll die.

00:51:15.760 On the other hand, you have someone who very much likes watching pornography.

00:51:20.080 You're telling me that those are the same category.

00:51:22.820 You don't see any substantive difference between those two things.

00:51:27.480 Really?

00:51:27.720 It's just, it's absurd.

00:51:31.420 And I think you can tell the difference.

00:51:34.320 So whatever word you want to use, there's a category over here, there's a category over here.

00:51:39.940 And I think that we need different words to describe those categories because they are different kinds of things.

00:51:45.300 And when it comes to pornography, in fact, you can just stop.

00:51:49.220 Like, as I said, you know, if I offered you, I said a million, I think, but let's say, what if I offered you, let's bring the offer down.

00:51:58.680 I'll give you a thousand bucks.

00:52:00.060 I'll give you a thousand bucks to not watch porn for a week.

00:52:02.360 Could you do it? 0.98

00:52:03.240 You definitely could.

00:52:04.120 You absolutely could.

00:52:05.140 For a thousand bucks, you could do it.

00:52:06.340 Anyone could. 0.57

00:52:07.640 You're not going to say, nah, I don't want the thousand, because I want to watch porn.

00:52:10.600 You'll take the thousand bucks, won't you?

00:52:11.780 Which, in and of itself, proves that you can stop if you feel you're incentivized enough.

00:52:19.100 But you do have the ability.

00:52:21.960 And if anyone, if there's any hope of someone changing their behavior, adopting better behavior,

00:52:29.920 it has to begin with them acknowledging that they do have the power to change.

00:52:36.760 And that's the point here.

00:52:38.180 You have to make sure, get people to acknowledge that they can change.

00:52:43.380 They're not going to change without first acknowledging that change is possible,

00:52:48.340 that they do have power over their own behavior and the choices that they make.

00:52:54.760 How are you?

00:52:55.580 I mean, it's very nice what you're talking about.

00:52:56.960 Oh, you want to guide them step by step on the road to recovery.

00:53:00.500 How are you going to get them on that road if they don't even believe that they have any power over their own behavior and their own choices?

00:53:05.300 It's got to start with acknowledging that, and then they can get on that road.

00:53:09.640 There's no other way to do it, as far as I can tell.

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00:54:06.960 And now for some of the biggest news in Daily Wire history.

00:54:09.460 We're just hours away from the X event of Candace Owen's new 10-part docuseries, Convicting a Murderer.

00:54:14.680 If you haven't heard, we're showcasing episode one tonight on X, formerly known as Twitter, at 9 p.m. Eastern.

00:54:19.760 Candace is about to bring you the truth that will challenge every preconceived notion you have regarding the Stephen Avery case from the highly publicized series, Making a Murderer.

00:54:28.220 Stephen Avery's murder trial was made famous by Hollywood, which portrayed him as an innocent victim of corrupt law enforcement.

00:54:34.080 Let me just tell you, Candace Owens blows that narrative wide open, and there's no one better to advocate for the truth and against media manipulation than Candace Owens. 0.98

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00:55:01.220 Part of me don't want to believe that he did this.

00:55:03.460 The blood that was on that back area was indicative of the head wound.

00:55:07.660 My brother likes to push a lot of people around. 0.97

00:55:10.360 I don't give a f*** about anything. I ain't gotta listen to nobody. 0.86

00:55:13.220 How were these filmmakers able to convince so many people that a man like Stephen Avery is innocent?

00:55:19.580 How many times did he stab her?

00:55:22.620 Once.

00:55:24.060 And show me where.

00:55:25.520 Right here.

00:55:26.500 They gave him power.

00:55:27.620 They're trying to get everything on me that they did.

00:55:29.440 It's not good for an Avery to have power. 0.99

00:55:31.960 I told you all along, keep your f*** about shot. 0.99

00:55:34.820 I can hurt Stephen. 0.99

00:55:36.380 I'm not going to lie for him no more. I can't do it.

00:55:38.780 Watch Convicting a Murderer, a new 10-part series on Daily Wire Plus.

00:55:42.500 Before the X showcase of Convicting a Murderer, Candace will be chatting with special guests at a special X event at 5 p.m.

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00:56:46.200 All of the late night talk shows have been on hiatus for several months now because of the writer's strike.

00:56:51.180 This comes as news to most Americans who had forgotten that those shows existed.

00:56:55.140 Late night talk shows, of course, haven't been relevant, least of all funny, since approximately maybe the year 2003.

00:56:59.740 In fact, I was surprised to learn that they were impacted by the writer's strike at all, as I assumed that they didn't have writers.

00:57:05.200 But they do.

00:57:06.340 And in spite of the strike and the general lack of relevance, one late night show has managed to make the news this week for all the wrong reasons.

00:57:14.520 Rolling Stone has the big expose on The Tonight Show with Jimmy Fallon.

00:57:18.000 Here's the headline.

00:57:19.120 Chaos, comedy, and crying rooms inside Jimmy Fallon's Tonight Show.

00:57:23.440 16 current and former staffers say Fallon's erratic behavior spoiled their dream of working on The Tonight Show.

00:57:29.740 Now, as you can tell from the title, this is yet another shocking report about a so-called toxic work environment.

00:57:35.340 We're seeing these kinds of things with increasing frequency.

00:57:38.660 You might even say that the toxic work environments are having their Me Too moment.

00:57:43.680 First, it was Ellen DeGeneres. 0.77

00:57:45.320 Then earlier this year, thanks to another Rolling Stone expose, we heard that The Kelly Clarkson Show is a toxic environment where employees feel stressed out. 0.98

00:57:53.040 And they get yelled at sometimes, and they start crying, and their mental health is severely impacted.

00:57:57.980 Then a few weeks ago, the American Psychological Association released a new study claiming that 20% of all workers in America, which is about 30 million people, give or take, are in workplaces that are toxic.

00:58:09.700 And half of them say that their mental health has been harmed by all of the toxicity in the workplace.

00:58:14.940 And now we have this revelation about Jimmy Fallon.

00:58:18.400 Toxic work environments are an epidemic, it seems.

00:58:21.780 Which raises the question, what exactly is a toxic work environment, and how does it significantly differ from a regular work environment?

00:58:30.300 Well, let's read a little bit of this Rolling Stone report to see if it might help illuminate the issue for us.

00:58:34.120 Quote, according to two current and 14 former employees, The Tonight Show has been a toxic workplace for years, far outside the boundaries of what's considered normal in the high-pressure world of late-night TV.

00:58:45.620 They say the ugly environment behind the scenes starts at the top, with Fallon's erratic behavior and has trickled down to its ever-changing leadership teams, nine showrunners in the past nine years, who seemingly don't know how to say no to Jimmy.

00:58:56.660 Former employees described The Tonight Show as a tense and pretty glum atmosphere, with some alleging that they were belittled and intimidated by their bosses, including Fallon himself.

00:59:06.180 Employees described being afraid of Fallon's outbursts and unexpected, inconsistent behavior.

00:59:10.900 Seven former employees say that their mental health was impacted by their alleged experiences working at The Tonight Show.

00:59:16.220 These staffers say it was commonplace to hear people joking about wanting to kill themselves, and that they would refer to guest dressing rooms in the office as crying rooms,

00:59:23.520 because that's where they would go to let out their emotions when they are upset with their alleged mistreatment.

00:59:29.420 Well, this sounds potentially bad so far. Employees are breaking down in tears at work. They're talking about killing themselves.

00:59:37.780 What exactly is happening to these people? Like, what is Jimmy Fallon doing to them?

00:59:43.240 Like, what specifically is he doing? What terrible atrocities are being inflicted upon The Tonight Show staff?

00:59:50.540 Well, let's keep reading and we'll find out.

00:59:52.200 Quote, it's a bummer because it was my dream job, one former employee says.

00:59:56.520 Writing for Late Night is a lot of people's dream jobs, and they're coming into this and it becomes a nightmare very quickly.

01:00:02.920 It's sad that it's like that, especially knowing that it doesn't have to be this way.

01:00:06.860 But behind the scenes, there was a surprising, dramatic, and ugly shift in the working environment,

01:00:10.420 according to three employees who originally worked for Late Night with Jimmy Fallon and then followed the team to The Tonight Show.

01:00:16.200 Of course, there was the added pressure when the program transitioned.

01:00:18.820 The Tonight Show is one of the television's most storied franchises.

01:00:21.280 Quote, the producers felt this pressure, and that translated down to all their employees,

01:00:25.260 people that worked under them and then felt this pressure that if you made one mistake, you were gone and would be easily replaced,

01:00:31.040 one former employee says.

01:00:32.200 Quote, you have all these NBC pages in the building who are ready, willing, and waiting to take your job.

01:00:37.420 Okay, at this point, we've learned that some of the employees expected the job to be a dream, and it wasn't.

01:00:43.500 And they also felt a lot of pressure, and they were afraid that they might be fired and replaced.

01:00:47.880 So far, it sounds like this toxic work environment is just literally every work environment.

01:00:54.840 But maybe we haven't gotten to the really horrific stuff yet.

01:00:57.000 So let's continue.

01:00:59.220 Quote, nobody told Jimmy no.

01:01:00.720 Everybody walked on eggshells, especially showrunners, another former employee says.

01:01:04.120 You never knew which Jimmy you were going to get and when he was going to throw a hissy fit.

01:01:08.160 Look how many showrunners went so quickly.

01:01:10.520 We know they didn't last long.

01:01:12.400 With an ever-changing cast at the top, employees say that they had nightmares related to work and were in a constant state of fear.

01:01:18.060 One former employee says that they had their first anxiety attack while working at the show and were put on anti-anxiety medication for the first time.

01:01:25.240 Another employee says that they felt physical ramifications of their declining mental health, like their hair thinning and weakened nail beds.

01:01:31.740 Four other employees say that they're in therapy because of their experiences.

01:01:34.960 Three say they experienced suicidal ideation as a result of the working environment.

01:01:38.380 One employee says that they lost nearly 20 pounds during their time working under showrunner Granit Biederman and felt like they were on edge all the time and cried themselves to sleep every night.

01:01:48.940 So, we're still hearing about the emotional devastation all these employees experience.

01:01:54.340 Crying themselves to sleep every night.

01:01:57.120 Crying at work.

01:01:58.440 Crying everywhere all the time.

01:02:00.200 In therapy.

01:02:01.040 Losing weight.

01:02:02.420 But we haven't heard what exactly happened to them to justify this kind of reaction.

01:02:07.920 From the sound of it, these people are having the emotional reaction you'd expect from someone whose house just burned down with their entire family inside.

01:02:15.620 I mean, they are describing deep, profound emotional trauma.

01:02:21.280 Crying yourself to sleep every night.

01:02:23.300 That's like grieving the loss of a loved one.

01:02:27.080 Okay?

01:02:27.740 So, what could possibly have happened to them at the office to cause this kind of reaction?

01:02:33.660 We still haven't heard.

01:02:34.520 So, let's continue.

01:02:35.060 According to most employees who spoke to Rolling Stone, it's common knowledge that behind the scenes, Fallon's temperament, mood, and treatment of staffers is erratic.

01:02:43.360 These employees say that they've witnessed Fallon snap at crew members, express irritation over the smallest of things, berate and belittle staffers out of frustration.

01:02:51.060 Three former employees say that he berated them in front of other colleagues and crew members.

01:02:55.160 One employee says that depending on Fallon's mood, they felt like his notes and feedback could be passive-aggressive, personal insults, as opposed to constructive criticisms.

01:03:03.340 They say that he would write comments like,

01:03:05.180 Are you okay?

01:03:06.020 Seriously?

01:03:06.540 Do you need help?

01:03:07.880 Rolling Stone reviewed photos of the employee's alleged notes from Fallon that read,

01:03:11.300 Ugh, lame.

01:03:12.100 What is going on with you?

01:03:13.040 You've outdone yourself.

01:03:14.620 The same employees say that Fallon would also send combative emails.

01:03:17.720 One of which was reviewed by Rolling Stone to certain staffers if he was dissatisfied with their work.

01:03:21.940 Two employees remember witnessing Fallon scold the crew member who was in charge of his cue cards in the middle of a taping with comedian Jerry Seinfeld.

01:03:30.900 They say it was an uncomfortable moment.

01:03:33.580 Okay, I can just stop this here and spoil the ending because this is it.

01:03:38.460 There is no shocking revelation about horrific abuse being inflicted upon Tonight Show staffers.

01:03:44.400 Like, it's just this.

01:03:46.220 The boss gets angry sometimes and yells.

01:03:49.200 He criticizes employees who dissatisfy him on occasion.

01:03:53.520 There's some passive aggressiveness.

01:03:55.740 Sometimes people get fired.

01:03:57.620 The closest thing they get to an actual shocker is that two employees claim that Fallon seemed potentially inebriated at work once six years ago.

01:04:07.540 Which, if true, of course, is bad.

01:04:09.660 But there is nothing here that could even remotely justify crying fits and panic attacks and employees running around threatening suicide.

01:04:21.240 Okay, this is not a toxic work environment.

01:04:23.100 It's a fragile work environment staffed by a collection of emotionally stunted crybabies who break down in tears if they experience a little bit of pressure.

01:04:31.400 Or if the boss gets a little bit mad sometimes.

01:04:34.140 Look, I'm no Jimmy Fallon fan.

01:04:37.380 I have no dog in this fight.

01:04:39.580 I have no instinct to defend him or any real interest in defending him.

01:04:43.660 But my general ambivalence towards Jimmy Fallon is overridden in this case by the intense revulsion I feel towards this generation of overgrown children masquerading as adults who can't handle even the smallest amount of stress.

01:04:56.300 And that's where this idea of the toxic work environment comes from.

01:05:01.480 Now, there might be some workplaces that really are toxic in a more significant sense.

01:05:05.180 But for the most part, when someone complains about their workplace being toxic, what they really mean is that their workplace is a workplace.

01:05:12.640 That they have to deal with other people.

01:05:14.460 They have responsibilities they have to perform.

01:05:17.320 You know, they have to justify their existence and their job.

01:05:21.400 There's pressure.

01:05:22.160 There's stress.

01:05:24.020 Tempers flare sometimes.

01:05:25.380 People disagree.

01:05:27.260 Coworkers and bosses have eccentricities that can be annoying and frustrating.

01:05:32.240 It's a workplace.

01:05:33.840 It's life as an adult.

01:05:35.460 This is how it goes.

01:05:37.860 Now, just to drive the point home here, recently Forbes published a list of the 10 signs that you're in a toxic workplace.

01:05:44.760 And here are some of the signs.

01:05:47.160 It says that your workplace is toxic, says Forbes.

01:05:50.220 If you are physically and mentally exhausted at the end of each workday.

01:05:54.120 If your manager asks you to be available to answer emails in the evenings.

01:05:58.740 If your colleagues complain about work.

01:06:00.880 Or if your co-workers sometimes make offensive jokes.

01:06:05.540 That is a toxic work environment.

01:06:07.520 So again, a toxic workplace is just a workplace.

01:06:10.940 It's any workplace.

01:06:12.160 Now, that's not to say that people should make offensive jokes or even that your boss should expect you to be available off hours.

01:06:18.640 But these things happen.

01:06:21.440 And when they happen, it just means that your workplace isn't perfect.

01:06:26.900 It isn't flawless.

01:06:28.800 Indeed, as Jimmy Fallon's staff discovered, it isn't a dream.

01:06:31.740 There's no dream job.

01:06:34.780 Because life is not happening in a dream.

01:06:37.660 It's reality.

01:06:39.440 Stuff happens sometimes that you don't like.

01:06:42.480 That doesn't make it toxic, you emotional infants.

01:06:46.740 And it certainly doesn't justify crying fits or acting like you have PTSD.

01:06:51.360 You didn't get your legs blown off on the battlefield.

01:06:53.480 You answered a work email at 7 p.m.

01:06:55.340 You'll be fine.

01:06:56.920 Stop whining.

01:06:57.620 See, this is the real story with the epidemic of toxic work environments.

01:07:02.500 Once again, the problem isn't the problem itself, but the total inability of grown adults to deal with the problem.

01:07:10.520 You know, there are always going to be workplace pressures and angry bosses and annoying co-workers.

01:07:16.800 Encountering these challenges, it doesn't make you an abuse victim.

01:07:19.680 It makes you a normal adult existing in a reality that won't always, or in fact will never, comport entirely with your dreams.

01:07:30.340 You either learn how to cope with that and succeed in spite of it, or you can cry like a toddler and look for pity and a pat on the head.

01:07:38.700 Unfortunately, many people these days choose the latter.

01:07:43.480 And for that, they are today canceled.

01:07:47.340 That'll do it for the show today and this week.

01:07:49.700 Thanks for watching.

01:07:50.460 Thanks for listening.

01:07:51.320 Have a great weekend.

01:07:51.980 Talk to you on Monday.

01:07:53.100 Godspeed.

The Matt Walsh Show - September 08, 2023

Ep. 1218 - Why The Most Powerful Forces In Society Want You To Be Single, Childless, and Selfish

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