The Matt Walsh Show - Ep. 1228 - Is The Anti-Racism Grift Collapsing？

00:00:00.000 Today on the Matt Walsh Show, things are falling apart for the race scrifter now known as Ibram X. Kendi.

00:00:05.420 He's just the latest anti-racist con artist to be exposed in recent years.

00:00:08.980 Is the anti-racist scam falling apart? We'll discuss.

00:00:11.580 Also, John Fetterman cries over being bullied for his disabilities.

00:00:15.300 Inmates claim cruel and unusual punishment when they are forced to work in the fields rather than sitting in a cell all day.

00:00:21.060 And a Daily Show clip goes viral where Trevor Noah tries ever so cautiously to push back against a babbling trans activist. 0.57

00:00:27.900 All of that and more today on the Matt Walsh Show.

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00:02:06.520 A decade ago, a man in his 30s by the name of Henry Rogers was one of 32,000 faculty members working in the State University System of New York.

00:02:13.920 Henry was an assistant professor making a modest salary as he taught history classes to undergraduates.

00:02:19.560 And he wasn't exactly lighting the academic world on fire, but he was doing pretty well, all things considered.

00:02:23.920 Henry had graduated from high school with a GPA below 3.0, SAT scores hovering around 1,000.

00:02:30.300 And with numbers like that, many students decide to pass on college entirely for good reason.

00:02:34.100 But here was Henry Rogers teaching college students.

00:02:37.240 He wasn't simply going to college.

00:02:38.700 He was educating the next generation.

00:02:40.700 So he was something of an unexpected success story.

00:02:44.380 Now, nevertheless, despite the many blessings that were bestowed on him by affirmative action, Henry Rogers dreamed bigger.

00:02:51.740 You know, he didn't want to be stuck at SUNY forever.

00:02:54.060 He knew that if he wanted to make a lot of money and advance in academia, he needed a rebrand.

00:02:59.460 You could only go so far with a white-sounding name like Henry Rogers in the American university system these days, especially in a state like New York.

00:03:06.580 So in 2013, Henry Rogers changed his name overnight.

00:03:10.500 He became Ibram Zolani Kendi, or Ibram X. Kendi for short.

00:03:15.580 And from that point forward, anyone looking at the CV of this assistant professor at a middling state school wouldn't immediately think of someone boring and generic and pasty.

00:03:24.900 Instead, they think of black revolutionaries like Malcolm X.

00:03:28.160 Now, looking back, Henry Rogers' name change may go down as the single most effective rebrand in the history of this country.

00:03:36.840 I mean, his timing couldn't have been better.

00:03:38.280 At the moment, Henry Rogers transitioned into Ibram X. Kendi, corporate media in the U.S., it just so happened, was looking for something to cover besides wealth inequality and Occupy Wall Street. 0.70

00:03:49.300 They decided, apparently in concert, to craft a narrative that innocent young black people were being hunted down by deranged white supremacists.

00:03:58.320 To advance that narrative, the media lied about the deaths of Trayvon Martin and Michael Brown and eventually George Floyd and so on.

00:04:04.920 And during this period, they needed talking heads with names like Ibram X. Kendi to tell Americans that their real problem wasn't Citibank or J.P. Morgan.

00:04:13.920 It was white people.

00:04:16.200 One thing led to another, and before you knew it, Henry Rogers was on the move.

00:04:19.760 He was hired by American University in Washington, D.C. in 2017, which at the time was struggling with the news that bananas had been spotted hanging from trees on campus.

00:04:29.000 This was presumed to be a racist incident, because why else would there be bananas?

00:04:33.580 It must be racist.

00:04:35.240 And Henry Rogers was going to fix things.

00:04:37.260 He was going to fix everything.

00:04:38.080 Specifically, Rogers promised to develop a racial reporting guidebook and to conduct a symposium on racial reporting.

00:04:46.440 Now, none of that ever materialized, and this is a theme with Henry Rogers that promises things and they don't actually happen.

00:04:52.460 But even so, Rogers received tens of thousands of dollars in grant money from places like the Ford Foundation and elsewhere to make it happen.

00:05:00.700 But Rogers was not completely idle during this period.

00:05:03.940 Right after two years at American University, Henry produced a now infamous book called How to Be an Anti-Racist, which offered a novel theory.

00:05:11.840 Henry argued that the solution to racism is more racism.

00:05:16.400 Quote, the only remedy to racist discrimination is anti-racist discrimination.

00:05:21.280 The only remedy to past discrimination is present discrimination.

00:05:25.240 The only remedy to present discrimination is future discrimination.

00:05:29.400 Now, if your IQ is higher than Henry Rogers, and unless you're a house cat, it almost certainly is, that might seem counterintuitive. 0.97

00:05:38.160 In fact, it might seem like the single dumbest idea ever committed to paper. 0.93

00:05:42.800 But in 2019, this theory, this explicit endorsement of racism, of discrimination, lit the academic world on fire. 0.92

00:05:51.300 They were thrilled by it.

00:05:52.300 That same year, Henry Rogers was invited to speak at the Aspen Ideas Festival, where he had the opportunity to expound on his ingenious thesis before an audience of adoring, mostly white sycophants. 0.72

00:06:04.640 And yet, despite the friendly audience, things didn't go well.

00:06:08.260 And not to oversell, but this may be the single most amusing clip to come out of the entire DEI anti-racism craze.

00:06:14.980 And in case you missed it at the time, you're in for a treat.

00:06:17.600 Here is Henry Rogers, a.k.a. Ibram X. Kendi, explaining his definition of racism, or lack thereof.

00:06:25.120 Listen.

00:06:26.580 I'm wondering, I just finished reading Robin DiAngelo's White Fragility, and I think she did, like, an excellent job of defining racism as, like, a system of oppression as opposed to, like, a personal choice.

00:06:37.860 It's like, it's there, you benefit from it, or you don't.

00:06:41.240 That's its purpose.

00:06:42.140 You talked about the importance of defining racism, but I, but I, unless I missed it, which is possible, I didn't, I didn't hear your personal definition.

00:06:50.840 Is there, is there one that you would offer us?

00:06:53.080 Like, how do you define racism?

00:06:55.100 Sure.

00:06:55.400 So racism, I would define it as a collection of racist policies that lead to racial inequity that are substantiated by racist ideas.

00:07:06.820 Can you say that again?

00:07:12.220 Sure.

00:07:12.740 A collection of racist policies that lead to racial inequity that are substantiated by racist ideas.

00:07:23.680 And anti-racism is pretty simple, using the same terms.

00:07:28.040 Anti-racism is a collection of anti-racist policies leading to racial, anybody want to take a guess?

00:07:33.840 Equity that are substantiated by anti-racist ideas.

00:07:45.200 Thank you.

00:07:47.780 Thank you for this.

00:07:48.860 It's the most comprehensive talk I've seen on racism in my whole life.

00:07:51.860 I really appreciate you.

00:07:53.080 That's because of Jamel.

00:07:54.060 Thank you for this.

00:07:57.860 This is the best.

00:07:58.480 That was the most insightful thing I've ever heard.

00:08:00.360 That was the greatest wisdom that has ever been passed down in the history of mankind.

00:08:05.600 Now, this is an amazing clip for many reasons.

00:08:07.540 For one thing, even in the moment, with everyone in the room on Henry Rogers' side,

00:08:12.300 there's still nervous laughter when he tries to articulate the definition of the central concept animating his entire life's work.

00:08:19.860 Even by the standards of woke academics, this was bad.

00:08:23.360 And they all knew it.

00:08:26.440 Racism is when you're racist.

00:08:29.120 Well, you know, racism is when racist things happen.

00:08:33.340 Okay, thanks, Henry.

00:08:34.820 That was very illuminating.

00:08:36.880 Everyone just smiles and nods awkwardly because that's what academia is now.

00:08:40.560 It's a grift.

00:08:41.760 There's no integrity.

00:08:42.720 There's no dialogue.

00:08:43.960 There are no ideas at the Aspen Ideas Festival.

00:08:46.940 There's just whatever that was.

00:08:49.600 Now, this moment was not the end of Henry Rogers' academic career.

00:08:53.380 Of course, it should have been.

00:08:55.500 He's in the business of anti-racism and can't tell you what it is.

00:08:59.480 There's a lot of that sort of thing going around on the left, if you haven't noticed.

00:09:03.360 Criticizing Henry Rogers, though, or denying him promotions is white supremacy.

00:09:06.120 So the promotions kept coming.

00:09:08.460 Henry went on to spend a year as a fellow at Harvard University after that.

00:09:12.780 And then he received yet another prestigious offer.

00:09:15.180 Just weeks after George Floyd's overdose, Rogers was hired to lead Boston University's Center for Anti-Racist Research.

00:09:21.840 Within weeks, massive donations were flowing in.

00:09:24.260 Jack Dorsey, the weird bearded founder of Twitter at the time, donated $10 million to Rogers' new center.

00:09:32.920 Lots of money coming from lots of people.

00:09:34.540 Random companies like Vertex Pharmaceuticals contributed millions of dollars as well.

00:09:39.200 In total, the center raised well over $40 million to combat racism.

00:09:46.940 And it's going to be combated by a guy who can't even tell you what it is.

00:09:50.760 So where was all this money going?

00:09:52.260 According to Boston University, it was going to fund some really path-breaking original research in the field of anti-racism.

00:09:59.540 In December of 2020, for example, BU published an article on its website promising that Kendi would be

00:10:04.680 bringing anti-racist investigators together with data scientists to tackle racial inequities

00:10:09.600 and to, quote, establish Boston University as the nation's leading academic institution for data-driven anti-racist research.

00:10:16.040 Well, what came of this unprecedented collaboration between Rogers' anti-racist experts and BU's data scientists?

00:10:25.060 Were racial inequities tackled?

00:10:27.540 Not quite.

00:10:29.000 The Washington Free Beacon looked into this, and they found that Kendi's anti-racist center established something called the Racial Data Lab,

00:10:36.020 which is now completely defunct.

00:10:38.220 Quote,

00:10:38.820 As of September, the Racial Data Lab only compiled information on COVID-19 infections and deaths.

00:10:44.160 The COVID-19 tracker stopped collecting information in March 2021.

00:10:47.860 The center has since removed the names of anyone who worked on that project from its website.

00:10:51.640 So they compiled information from a bunch of other sources about COVID deaths, and then they stopped after about a year.

00:10:58.420 That's it.

00:10:59.900 Now, we did reach out to Boston University to see if there was something we were missing, but they didn't reply.

00:11:05.340 So it's clear that the sum total of BU's big anti-racism data initiative, the one they touted with articles and a lot of marketing materials, was this.

00:11:15.880 This was it.

00:11:16.740 This little COVID tracker.

00:11:18.800 That's all they did.

00:11:19.500 Now, to be fair, in its three years of existence, Rogers' anti-racist center also managed to take other steps towards anti-racism.

00:11:27.240 For example, scholars at the center managed to produce not one, but two, two published papers in three years.

00:11:34.360 Two whole papers for $40 million.

00:11:37.960 It's not bad.

00:11:38.780 That's $20 million apiece.

00:11:40.820 One of these papers looked at Google Street View images and concluded, based on that,

00:11:45.020 that neighborhoods with mostly black residents have more dilapidated buildings than neighborhoods with mostly white residents. 0.92

00:11:51.980 I mean, this is groundbreaking, shocking stuff.

00:11:54.800 No one knew that until they spent millions of dollars studying that.

00:11:58.780 And then someone, it's a lightbulb moment.

00:12:00.620 One of the researchers said, hey, get over here.

00:12:02.560 Look at this.

00:12:03.020 According to what I'm discovering, inner city communities have a lot of buildings that are in bad shape.

00:12:13.040 Dear God.

00:12:15.120 Now, for his part, Kendi had some bright ideas that he occasionally shared with media outlets in this country.

00:12:19.520 For example, he told Political, quote, to fix the original sin of racism, Americans should pass an anti-racist amendment to the U.S. Constitution.

00:12:27.480 The amendment would make unconstitutional racial inequity over a certain threshold, as well as racist ideas by public officials.

00:12:34.920 It would establish and permanently fund the Department of Anti-Racism, DOA, comprised of formally trained experts on racism and no political employees.

00:12:44.640 The DOA would be responsible for pre-clearing all local, state, and federal public policies to ensure that they won't yield racial inequity.

00:12:53.660 So imagine spending millions of dollars investing in a research center written by someone who sincerely believes something like that is a good idea. 0.99

00:13:03.380 I mean, it's so unbelievably degrading, so stupid that it defies analysis, really. 0.98

00:13:08.420 What would you tell your shareholders? 1.00

00:13:11.280 What would you tell yourself when you look at yourself in the mirror?

00:13:14.640 Is there literally anyone on the planet who thinks a Department of Anti-Racism, literally the acronym is DOA, Debt on Arrival, would be a good idea?

00:13:24.820 Well, maybe if you were one of Rogers' investors, you'd hold out hope that sooner or later the scholars in this prestigious anti-racism center are eventually going to buckle down and get to work and produce something that's actually useful.

00:13:36.200 But if you thought that, you would be wrong.

00:13:39.200 And that's now very clear.

00:13:40.380 This week we learned that Kendi's Anti-Racist Center has just fired more than half of its staff.

00:13:45.480 They've apparently managed to burn through much of the $40 million they've raised.

00:13:52.040 And to be clear, this is an operation that does not involve particle colliders or expensive equipment. 0.93

00:13:59.140 Okay, this is a bunch of anti-racist experts sitting around telling white people that they're terrible.

00:14:05.960 And whatever else you want to say about work like that, you would think at least it would be cheap.

00:14:10.640 But they managed to blow through $40 million in three years doing that.

00:14:15.460 And now at long last, Boston University says that it's opened an inquiry into where all this money went exactly.

00:14:22.640 If we're being honest, federal prosecutors should also be doing an inquiry about that same subject.

00:14:28.080 But of course, we know that they won't because Henry Rogers is doing their bidding.

00:14:32.180 Now, at this point, it would be easy to gloat, you know, gloating over the aftermath of the complete and total implosion of this whole project.

00:14:39.980 And we should gloat a little bit because it's hilarious and everyone who got screwed out of their money deserved it.

00:14:46.400 There's the fact that one of Rogers' former staffers called these layoffs an example of employment violence and systemic racism, which is pretty funny.

00:14:55.040 Many observers have made the point that the woke inevitably eat their own.

00:14:58.800 And that's true for the most part.

00:15:00.560 You get a bunch of professional whiners into one room, get a bunch of professional victims into one room, give them $40 million,

00:15:06.600 and pretty soon they're going to be out of money and still complaining.

00:15:10.360 In case that's not obvious, Henry Rogers just proved that point.

00:15:13.520 So what's going on here?

00:15:15.900 Why did his anti-racist center really collapse?

00:15:18.800 Was it just mismanagement?

00:15:20.540 Is this an isolated incident confined to Boston University?

00:15:24.320 That's possible, but if you look at broader trends, it seems like something else is afoot here.

00:15:28.120 It seems like all over the country, major institutions are ditching the DEI scammers.

00:15:33.100 It's not just happening in Boston.

00:15:34.480 According to one recent analysis, job postings for DEI positions fell by roughly 20% last year.

00:15:39.980 The average tenure of senior DEI executives at Fortune 500 companies hired since 2018 has been less than two years.

00:15:48.260 That's according to a consulting firm that specializes in this area.

00:15:51.480 BLM, meanwhile, is in the red as of last fiscal year.

00:15:54.240 They're bleeding cash.

00:15:55.440 They're burning through cash.

00:15:56.860 And a lot of it they wasted on mansions in California, apparently.

00:15:59.720 So seeing all of this, it's tempting to say that the whole anti-racism scam is collapsing.

00:16:06.680 But as welcoming a development as that would be, I think we have to resist the temptation to come to that conclusion.

00:16:12.260 I don't think that's exactly what's happening here.

00:16:14.800 As we've all learned over the past 10 years, the race hustle is far too useful and far too profitable to the people in power. 0.97

00:16:21.180 And multiple generations of Americans have been too thoroughly indoctrinated into this.

00:16:26.960 Millions of black Americans really do believe that they are perpetual victims,

00:16:30.920 while millions of whites really do see themselves as guilty of imaginary racial sins.

00:16:36.560 Just because Henry Rogers and a lot of his imitators have been exposed doesn't mean that the underlying ideology has been defeated. 0.96

00:16:42.920 These charlatans are low-hanging fruit. 0.91

00:16:44.720 They're grunts that are easily replaceable. 1.00

00:16:46.480 And, you know, eventually they're all going to self-immolate because they're a bunch of cheap con artists. 0.94

00:16:52.300 And that's what cheap con artists do. 1.00

00:16:55.120 But still you have to think about how quickly these grifters took control of every major cultural and political institution. 0.96

00:17:00.980 We went from don't judge people based on the color of their skin to discrimination is anti-racist in a very short period of time.

00:17:07.920 Feels like it happened overnight.

00:17:10.420 Okay, like the Protestant Reformation took a lot longer to get going,

00:17:13.620 if only because people were communicating by horse or ship-borne letters or whatever.

00:17:18.020 The woke social credit equity biosurveillance state, that Reformation, took hold much faster.

00:17:26.500 And they can elevate con artists like Henry Rogers so quickly that we don't know what's happening until they've got $40 million in control of major institutions.

00:17:34.700 They can scam the most sophisticated investors on the planet, allegedly, from tech executives to big pharma.

00:17:41.340 Henry Rogers and his team, they haven't done much in their tenure as highly paid anti-racist activists.

00:17:47.680 But they have demonstrated one thing, albeit inadvertently.

00:17:51.680 And that's the fact that there isn't any substance to so-called anti-racist ideology.

00:17:56.620 It's just mega corporations looking to give big payouts to the first guy they find with an exotic name.

00:18:02.400 If it's not fraud, it's something very close to it. 0.98

00:18:05.220 If the right can finally admit that, instead of playing along with these charlatans and funding the universities that promote this garbage, 0.97

00:18:12.540 then things can change very quickly. 0.91

00:18:14.860 But if we can't take those steps, then nothing will change at all.

00:18:17.840 If we continue to tolerate this, then no matter what happens to Henry Rogers,

00:18:22.560 we can look forward to many more Ibram X. Kendi's down the line.

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00:19:32.340 Okay, some people might feel that I've been a little hard on John Fetterman recently.

00:19:36.520 And if you're of that opinion, then you really aren't going to like what I have to say about this first headline, which is from Mediate.

00:19:44.240 John Fetterman tears up an emotional speech about bullying he's faced due to disability.

00:19:49.600 The article says,

00:20:19.600 Fetterman became emotional after presenting a transcription app that allows him to fully participate in the meeting and communicate with his family members.

00:20:29.120 Let's watch that clip.

00:20:30.280 Here it is.

00:20:31.160 Thank you for coming.

00:20:32.680 And for me, it's been a very personal issue with me.

00:20:36.480 And I'm going to show this, and then I'm going to describe this to others.

00:20:43.140 This is my iPhone.

00:20:45.440 And this is a transcription service that allows me to fully participate in this meeting and conversations with my children and interacting with my staff.

00:21:00.200 I had a stroke about 18 months ago, you know, and I have lost my ability to fully process language.

00:21:09.060 And I like to think I was an empathetic person, truly.

00:21:14.820 But until that happened, I've raised to a whole different kind of level as well.

00:21:21.720 And it's profound to know, though, that I never really considered that without this kind of technology, I couldn't watch television.

00:21:30.100 And I can't imagine if I didn't have this kind of a bridge to allow me to communicate with other people effectively.

00:21:38.120 And, you know, because I live in a political environment, I was ridiculed and made fun of because I wasn't able to process things sometimes or say things, things.

00:21:48.840 So I'm so sorry that I'm sure many of you had to go through this kind of thing.

00:21:54.720 You know, I was lucky that I was I was lucky to go through my life, the vast majority of that, without this kind of disability that I have.

00:22:03.300 But.

00:22:05.760 OK, you might think that I'm cruel.

00:22:08.120 It doesn't matter to me if you think that.

00:22:11.620 But first of all, I firmly believe that any United States senator who cries about bullying should be immediately removed from office and deported.

00:22:20.600 Deported to where?

00:22:21.660 I don't know.

00:22:22.940 Jupiter, ideally, or some other inhospitable planet.

00:22:27.600 Anywhere but here, because this is just a disgrace.

00:22:31.040 OK, men should not be crying in public.

00:22:33.280 They especially should not be crying about bullying.

00:22:35.200 And especially if the man is supposed to be a statesman, a leader.

00:22:40.020 OK, it's disgraceful.

00:22:43.360 And I'm sick to death of these weak, weepy men parading their feelings around.

00:22:48.940 Like, can we bring back stoicism for God's sake?

00:22:52.700 Masculine strength and dignity.

00:22:55.320 Stop crying.

00:22:56.260 It's like we need more bullying, if anything, to shame all these wimps who are out there crying about things. 1.00

00:23:03.280 Now, this is especially the case for Fetterman, not only because he's supposed to be a statesman,

00:23:09.560 but also because he's the one who decided to run for office, to run for an office he's not fit for, to take office, to not step down.

00:23:21.220 When did this stroke happen?

00:23:22.160 It happened early in the primaries, I believe.

00:23:27.140 It certainly was well before he was elected.

00:23:30.620 There's plenty of opportunity to just end your campaign.

00:23:34.300 And everyone would understand.

00:23:39.340 It not only would be understandable, it would be the right thing to do.

00:23:44.680 He made the decision to keep going.

00:23:46.100 Now, a lot of people blame, put a lot of blame on his wife for clearly pushing him a lot. 0.84

00:23:50.060 And his wife is clearly an awful person, so she deserves much of the blame. 0.95

00:23:54.740 But that's also a decision that he made and decided to do.

00:23:58.140 Now, if he was just, and he says there, you may remember also, we were told, even before he was elected, that, well, he can't speak.

00:24:10.400 But that's not a problem, because that doesn't mean that he can't, he can understand what's being said to him.

00:24:15.760 He just can't, he can't convey his own thoughts.

00:24:18.000 Well, you would think that being in the legislative branch of government, not being able to convey your thoughts is a pretty big hindrance.

00:24:27.040 But it turns out that, no, it's not just that he can't convey his thoughts, it's that he can't understand what's being said to him.

00:24:31.540 And he admits it right there.

00:24:33.000 He has trouble processing language.

00:24:35.800 You're in the legislative branch of government.

00:24:38.440 You're supposed to be debating laws.

00:24:41.740 And you can't process language.

00:24:45.040 That, you can't do the job.

00:24:48.000 In that case.

00:24:49.700 Now, if he was just some guy, some random guy, you know, working at a hardware store or something, and he had trouble processing language, I would feel sorry for him.

00:24:59.680 I certainly wouldn't criticize him for it.

00:25:01.620 I'd have sympathy.

00:25:02.740 I'd be empathetic.

00:25:04.860 Obviously.

00:25:06.400 But you're a senator.

00:25:08.500 You're supposed to be helping to lead the country.

00:25:12.220 And you admit that you can't process language.

00:25:14.700 So what are you doing there?

00:25:16.240 Why are you in the office?

00:25:18.920 Step down.

00:25:19.860 Go away.

00:25:20.900 No one is forcing you to be there.

00:25:22.180 Maybe your wife is bullying you into it, too. 0.98

00:25:26.880 But you could stand up to your wife.

00:25:28.440 Say, I'm not doing this. 0.95

00:25:30.600 You power-hungry wench. 1.00

00:25:32.160 I'm not doing this.

00:25:35.760 You know, go marry someone else if that's what you're so worried about.

00:25:37.740 So you're choosing to be there.

00:25:42.920 You shouldn't be.

00:25:44.280 Step down.

00:25:45.660 No one has a gun to your head forcing you to be there.

00:25:47.760 If you don't want people to notice that you've lost your mind, step down.

00:25:53.940 You are inflicting your disability on the nation. 0.98

00:25:57.560 And that's why you deserve criticism.

00:26:00.500 Same thing goes for Joe Biden.

00:26:02.040 Normally, I would not mock anyone who is senile.

00:26:06.320 I obviously wouldn't criticize him for it.

00:26:08.280 I have an immense amount of sympathy for elderly people who go senile. 0.98

00:26:13.780 You know, it's a terrible thing.

00:26:16.660 It could happen to any of us.

00:26:18.160 Like, in fact, it basically almost certainly will happen to all of us unless we die before it happens.

00:26:23.040 So you wouldn't normally make any comments about it, make any critical thoughts about it.

00:26:28.400 But when you're the president and you're choosing to remain in office and actually run for re-election,

00:26:35.140 despite being senile, well, now, again, you are inflicting that senility on the country.

00:26:42.240 And we have a right to be upset about that.

00:26:45.940 It's like this.

00:26:46.740 Imagine this.

00:26:47.720 Imagine that you find out that your pilot of your United flight has a severe visual impairment. 0.98

00:26:58.460 Now, hopefully, normally, you wouldn't criticize someone for being a nerdy, ugly four-eyes with glasses like me. 0.95

00:27:05.300 Normally, you wouldn't do that. 0.90

00:27:06.940 Someone who's visually impaired, you wouldn't say anything about it.

00:27:08.800 You wouldn't make fun of them, hopefully.

00:27:09.700 But if that person is flying the plane that you're on, suddenly his disability is a problem.

00:27:17.600 And he deserves to be criticized, not for being visually impaired, but for knowing that he's visually impaired and flying the plane anyway. 0.70

00:27:24.900 Okay, that's the problem.

00:27:28.340 And if, as the plane plunges into the side of a mountain, people are very upset and they say unkind things about that pilot and his visual problems,

00:27:40.160 if they do start yelling at him and mocking him even, 0.98

00:27:44.000 you dumb four-eyes, look what you've done, that sort of thing. 1.00

00:27:47.080 Normally, I would say, don't talk to people with glasses that way. 1.00

00:27:49.700 That's mean.

00:27:51.160 But in that case, it's understandable.

00:27:54.860 Just as it's understandable that the citizens of this country are saying some unkind things

00:27:59.260 about the brain-dead collection of senile, incoherent vegetables that are flying our whole country into a mountainside. 0.99

00:28:06.600 And they're doing it because they are arrogant, narcissistic, power-hungry ghouls who just refuse to let go of their power. 0.99

00:28:17.160 There's nothing to be sympathetic about here. 0.97

00:28:21.540 These are the least sympathetic characters I've ever seen.

00:28:24.400 Again, they deserve all of the harsh treatment they're getting and more.

00:28:30.240 The fact that we're being led by people like this, who do not have the mental capacity to do the job,

00:28:36.660 and they know they don't have it, that should be making us much angrier than it is.

00:28:43.580 Fetterman should hear jeering everywhere he goes until he steps down

00:28:49.260 and let someone who at least has a chance of being competent take that job.

00:28:54.400 Let's see.

00:28:58.180 I have to play this for you, unfortunately.

00:29:00.480 The View invited singers.

00:29:02.020 I don't have to play it, but I'm going to.

00:29:03.920 The View invited singers Natasha Bedingfield and M-I-L-C-K.

00:29:09.780 Is that Milk?

00:29:11.800 Pronounce Milk?

00:29:12.680 Anyway.

00:29:13.640 So these two women to come perform an anti-gun song called Your Child, My Child. 1.00

00:29:18.400 And I know you're thinking, musical performance at The View, it must already be terrible.

00:29:24.780 It's an anti-gun song.

00:29:26.060 It must be even worse.

00:29:28.400 And I'm here to tell you that it's a lot worse than you even expect.

00:29:32.400 Let's listen to some of this.

00:29:33.800 I know that things will change when enough of us will say

00:29:40.180 Enough, enough, enough, enough, enough.

00:29:49.700 Oh, yeah.

00:29:52.060 Enough, enough, enough.

00:29:57.660 Enough, enough, enough.

00:30:04.660 When enough of us show up, when enough of us cry out,

00:30:10.660 when enough of us say no, when enough of us say no,

00:30:16.660 when more of us say no.

00:30:19.660 Enough.

00:30:20.660 They have a point, enough.

00:30:23.660 That's enough of that.

00:30:25.660 But that is their point.

00:30:28.660 I don't know if you picked up on it, but enough.

00:30:30.660 They're saying enough, enough.

00:30:32.660 Just enough, all right?

00:30:34.660 The only thing we're missing from that song is more dramatic hand-waving

00:30:37.660 and head-bobbing.

00:30:38.660 There was not enough of that.

00:30:40.660 We needed more of that, a little bit more.

00:30:43.660 But what I love about this is that, first of all,

00:30:45.660 it's yet more evidence that the left doesn't know how to get their point across

00:30:49.660 through art anymore.

00:30:51.660 And this is actually a great development for the culture.

00:30:54.660 If not for our eardrums.

00:30:56.660 Because everything now, it's a great development because, you know,

00:31:01.660 it's the more effective they are getting their ideas across, the worse it is.

00:31:06.660 So the trade-off is that we have a lot of really bad, terrible art.

00:31:09.660 But the only plus side is that they're not nearly as effective at conveying their ideas

00:31:16.660 and getting people to accept them.

00:31:17.660 Because everything now is too on the nose, too melodramatic, too overly political,

00:31:23.660 overtly political, I should say.

00:31:25.660 And they used to be much more subtle.

00:31:28.660 You know, they used to embed their messaging into art that, on the surface,

00:31:34.660 seemed to have nothing to do with politics.

00:31:37.660 And that was always the most effective approach, but they don't do that anymore.

00:31:40.660 And I think there are a lot of reasons for that.

00:31:43.660 They're far too ideological at this point.

00:31:46.660 There's a real skill problem as well.

00:31:49.660 They don't have the same level of talent anymore.

00:31:54.660 And the second thing I like about this, this is a really great summation.

00:31:57.660 It's a great representation of the gun control movement.

00:32:00.660 Because this is actually all they have to say.

00:32:03.660 Enough! Enough! Someone do something! 0.99

00:32:06.660 And they say that, you know, in the song, they say that when enough of us cry out,

00:32:14.660 then the gun violence will stop.

00:32:16.660 And I know you might think that, well, it's just a song.

00:32:18.660 They don't mean that literally.

00:32:19.660 But that is literally the anti-gun point of view.

00:32:22.660 They think that if we can reach a point where people get sick of gun violence,

00:32:26.660 and we pass some kind of magical law, and it stops.

00:32:29.660 But that, of course, is not the case.

00:32:31.660 Gun violence committed by bad, violent people with ill intent will always be a problem.

00:32:38.660 You can't make it go away.

00:32:40.660 You can't make it disappear.

00:32:42.660 Especially not with the laws.

00:32:44.660 And the reason that we know that is because the world has always been a very violent place.

00:32:49.660 And it was a very violent place, probably in many ways more violent, before guns even existed.

00:32:55.660 So this is human nature, unfortunately.

00:32:58.660 It's the way of the world.

00:33:00.660 Now, does that mean that we can't do anything about it?

00:33:02.660 Does it mean we should accept it and surrender ourselves to it?

00:33:05.660 Absolutely not.

00:33:07.660 What it means is that we must emphasize two things in society.

00:33:12.660 And one is justice, punishing the bad guys, punishing harshly and swiftly.

00:33:17.660 And two is self-defense, which requires guns, whether you like it or not.

00:33:22.660 Speaking of punishing bad guys, I thought this was interesting.

00:33:25.660 This is from the AP.

00:33:27.660 Men incarcerated at Louisiana State Penitentiary filed a class action lawsuit on Saturday contending that they have been forced to work in the prison's fields for little or no pay, even when temperatures soar past 100 degrees.

00:33:39.660 They describe the conditions as cruel, degrading, and often dangerous.

00:33:42.660 The men, most of whom are black, work on the farm of the 18,000-acre maximum-security prison known as Angola, the site of a former slave plantation, hoeing, weeding, and picking crops by hand, often surrounded by armed guards, the suit said.

00:33:54.660 If they refuse to work or fail to meet quotas, they can be sent to solitary confinement or otherwise punished, according to disciplinary guidelines.

00:34:00.660 The suit said, quote, this labor serves no legitimate penological or institutional purpose.

00:34:05.660 It's purely punitive, designed to break incarcerated men and ensure their submission.

00:34:09.660 It names its defendants, Angola's warden, Timothy Hooper, and officials with Louisiana's Department of Corrections and its money-making arm, Prison Enterprises.

00:34:17.660 Ken Pastorek, a spokesman for the State Department of Public Safety and Corrections, said the department hadn't officially been served with the suit.

00:34:23.660 The plaintiffs include four men who formerly or are currently working in the fields, along with Voice of the Experienced, an organization made up of current and formerly incarcerated people, around 150 of whom are still at Angola.

00:34:36.660 The site said the work is especially dangerous to those with disabilities or health conditions in the summer months, with temperatures reaching up to 102 degrees in June, with heat indexes of up to 145.

00:34:46.660 Some of the plaintiffs have not been given the accommodations and services they're entitled to under the Americans with Disability Act.

00:34:52.660 These men are forced to work, notwithstanding their increased risk of illness or injury.

00:34:56.660 Okay, so the inmates are forced to work for little or no pay.

00:35:00.660 It's hot, it's uncomfortable, it's difficult.

00:35:03.660 Even if they claim that they're disabled or something, they've got a bad back, they still have to do it. 1.00

00:35:09.660 They're being treated like slaves, they say.

00:35:12.660 And to that, I say that all of that is absolutely great.

00:35:19.660 That is awesome.

00:35:20.660 Music to my ears.

00:35:22.660 That's the most heartwarming story I've read in some time.

00:35:25.660 I'm absolutely thrilled by it, every part of it.

00:35:28.660 This is what every prison should be.

00:35:31.660 And it's actually, it is not even, to disagree with that is not even a serious position.

00:35:38.660 I don't even think it's something that we should engage with.

00:35:41.660 If you read that, you think, well, that's, we shouldn't do that.

00:35:44.660 That's, we're treating them badly.

00:35:46.660 They shouldn't have to work.

00:35:48.660 Like, that is not even a serious position. 0.94

00:35:50.660 For most of human civilization, if you had suggested that, you would have been laughed out of the room as a lunatic. 0.80

00:35:55.660 Like, what?

00:35:56.660 Why shouldn't prisoners be forced to work?

00:36:00.660 Why in the world shouldn't they be?

00:36:03.660 They have committed serious crimes that have made them unfit to be free people in society.

00:36:10.660 Why shouldn't we force them to be productive? 0.66

00:36:13.660 Why shouldn't we punish them?

00:36:14.660 This is what every prison should be.

00:36:18.660 Like I said, put them to work, make them uncomfortable, force them to be productive.

00:36:22.660 Every prison should be this way.

00:36:24.660 If they complain that it's too hot, then force them to wear winter jackets as punishment.

00:36:29.660 Okay?

00:36:30.660 Give them something to cry about.

00:36:31.660 That's what I would do if I was a warden.

00:36:33.660 That's the way it should be.

00:36:34.660 Now, why should you force them to work?

00:36:36.660 Well, for one, when they're working, they're contributing to society.

00:36:41.660 They're being forced to actually contribute.

00:36:46.660 You know, many of these people that are in prison because they don't want to contribute to society.

00:36:50.660 And we should be saying to them in prison, well, that's not an option.

00:36:53.660 Okay?

00:36:54.660 You need to be a contributing member of society one way or another. 0.99

00:36:57.660 And you can do it out as a free person if you're obeying the law and you're not being a scumbag. 0.94

00:37:02.660 And you can work and you can make money for yourself and you can pretty much do whatever you want, you know, within the bounds of the law. 0.96

00:37:07.660 You can contribute that way or you can go to jail and you'll essentially become slave labor.

00:37:13.660 You know, that's the other option.

00:37:16.660 Like, it's up to you.

00:37:18.660 And that's the beautiful thing is that we all have that option. 0.99

00:37:21.660 If you want to be a scumbag criminal, I mean, you can do that. 0.99

00:37:27.660 It's your choice. 1.00

00:37:28.660 But now this is what you've decided.

00:37:30.660 But you're not going to get off the hook.

00:37:32.660 You're not going to get off the hook either way.

00:37:34.660 You're going to have to contribute one way or another.

00:37:37.660 That's the deal.

00:37:39.660 So forcing them to contribute is a great thing.

00:37:41.660 It's also justice.

00:37:42.660 It's punishment.

00:37:43.660 You know, and it says that in the article, in the suit rather, the suit says, oh, this is only for punishment.

00:37:51.660 Well, yeah, that's the idea.

00:37:54.660 You're being punished.

00:37:55.660 It's not supposed to be fun.

00:37:57.660 OK, you don't end up in Angola because you're because of a parking ticket. 1.00

00:38:03.660 OK, you end up there because you are a scumbag. 1.00

00:38:07.660 And this is the punishment. 1.00

00:38:09.660 And it's not supposed to be enjoyable.

00:38:12.660 So when you whine and say, I don't like this.

00:38:14.660 This is hard.

00:38:15.660 Yep.

00:38:16.660 Yep.

00:38:17.660 And you know, the other thing, too, is this is the only path to rehabilitation.

00:38:22.660 So there's always this argument about should punish should prison be primarily punitive or should it be, you know, should it should it rehabilitate?

00:38:31.660 The answer is that, in fact, the first focus of prison should be punitive.

00:38:35.660 That should be the primary point of prison is to punish.

00:38:39.660 OK, prison justice, in other words.

00:38:43.660 To punish someone for their wrongdoing.

00:38:45.660 That's that.

00:38:46.660 That is, in fact, the main point.

00:38:48.660 Other points, too.

00:38:49.660 Another big purpose of prison is segregation.

00:38:51.660 Segregate that segregate dangerous people from society.

00:38:54.660 Rehabilitation is farther down the line.

00:38:58.660 But, yeah, if you are going to be not everyone who goes to prison is going to be there for life.

00:39:04.660 I think I think many more people should be there for life.

00:39:07.660 We should be giving out a lot more life sentences than we do.

00:39:09.660 We should be giving out a lot more death sentences than we do.

00:39:12.660 But, you know, inevitably, even by even in my ideal scenario, if I was if I was handing out the punishments, there would still be a few people who are not there forever.

00:39:21.660 And and for those people, you do want them to be rehabilitated.

00:39:24.660 You're rehabilitated.

00:39:25.660 But how how is someone rehabilitated?

00:39:28.660 You're rehabilitated through work, through being forced to do things, you know, you don't want to do the constructive things that you don't want to do.

00:39:38.660 But that you should want to do.

00:39:41.660 Like you should want to work, you should want to contribute.

00:39:44.660 And and this is how, you know, it's only through real punishment and real justice that there's any hope of someone being rehabilitated.

00:39:54.660 Because the first step in rehabilitation, maybe not the first step, but a key step along the line is repentance.

00:40:03.660 You have to repent of what you've done.

00:40:05.660 You have to be sorry for it.

00:40:06.660 But you're probably not going to repent of what you've done to be sorry for it unless you are forced to confront, you know, the full reality of what you've done.

00:40:20.660 So if you went out, you know, and you whatever, went on a crime, crime spree and you carjack someone, you deal these awful things.

00:40:31.660 Eventually, maybe you'll be left back down and decided we want you to be rehabilitated.

00:40:35.660 But you have to be forced to confront how terrible that thing was that you did.

00:40:40.660 And this kind of forced labor thing, I mean, that one thing that it does is it communicates to the prisoner that, yes, what you did was so bad that you deserve this, that this is the treatment you deserve.

00:40:56.660 Only hope of rehabilitation is when they when they connect those dots and they say, you know what I do.

00:41:01.660 You know what I deserve this rather than complaining about it.

00:41:04.660 I actually deserve this.

00:41:05.660 Until the prisoner, if the prisoner doesn't say that, I deserve all the treatment I'm getting doesn't say that that he's not rehabilitated.

00:41:13.660 He should never be let out of prison.

00:41:16.660 That's the only way.

00:41:18.660 And also, by the way, you could really make the argument that forcing them to work is less cruel than having them sit around all day.

00:41:26.660 I mean, at least you're doing something.

00:41:31.660 Like, at least you're not horrifically bored just sitting there all day.

00:41:38.660 So it's not good for society to have the prisoners sitting there all day doing nothing.

00:41:42.660 It's also not good for them.

00:41:44.660 What does that achieve?

00:41:48.660 You know, boredom is the devil's playground, as they say.

00:41:52.660 So and I think that's probably especially true in prisons of all places.

00:41:55.660 All right.

00:41:56.660 I've got a bunch of other things that we don't have time for most of it.

00:42:02.660 I want to play this clip.

00:42:03.660 So Lizzo, the singer Lizzo, up until a few months ago, was considered the champion of positivity and optimism and hope and love and rainbows.

00:42:10.660 And recently, her reputation has taken a major hit with various former employees and backup dancers accusing her of being abusive, you know, in various different ways behind the scenes.

00:42:21.660 And what we see is that once those floodgates are open, there's no stopping it. 0.98

00:42:27.660 And then, you know, once we start hearing that some famous person is there, oh, they're actually a jerk behind the scenes. 0.99

00:42:32.660 Can you believe it? 0.99

00:42:33.660 Never and never would have guessed.

00:42:34.660 Soon as that happens, then everyone who's worked with that person is lining up and looking to get their piece of the pie.

00:42:41.660 And so, oh, you know, I was victimized, too.

00:42:43.660 So this is the latest.

00:42:44.660 This is the latest yet another lawsuit against Lizzo related to this.

00:42:49.660 And here's the report on that from NBC.

00:42:52.660 Pop star Lizzo facing a brand new lawsuit from one of her former workers.

00:42:56.660 Yeah, that's right.

00:42:57.660 And new exclusive reporting from NBC's Diana Dasrath and Tim Stello.

00:43:01.660 A fashion designer claims her team was mocked and bullied backstage on tour.

00:43:05.660 She goes on to allege that Lizzo allowed behavior like harassment and racial discrimination to happen. 0.92

00:43:10.660 NBC News correspondent Steven Romo joins us now.

00:43:13.660 So, Steven, can you walk us through some of these new allegations?

00:43:15.660 And has there been any response from Lizzo or anyone else named in the lawsuit?

00:43:20.660 Well, this lawsuit does have some similarities to the lawsuit filed by her former dancers for Lizzo.

00:43:25.660 We told you about those last month.

00:43:26.660 There are some differences here, though.

00:43:28.660 Asha Daniels, a fashion designer who says she toured with Lizzo, filed that suit today.

00:43:32.660 She started working with the pop star about a year ago.

00:43:35.660 She designed clothes for her dancers.

00:43:37.660 In this lawsuit, there are some troubling allegations against Lizzo, but more specifically against her wardrobe manager, Amanda Nomura.

00:43:44.660 Daniels alleges Nomura forced dancers to change out in the open, did stereotypical impressions of black women, called performers dumb, mocked their weight. 0.67

00:43:54.660 And the suit even alleges Nomura used a slur and threatened to kill anyone who put her job at risk.

00:44:00.660 Daniels goes on to claim she was forced to work seven days a week for 20 hours a day and was told to continue working even after injuring her ankle.

00:44:08.660 So that's the claim.

00:44:10.660 Maybe it will surprise you.

00:44:12.660 Maybe my take on the surprise you slightly.

00:44:14.660 I'm actually going to defend Lizzo a little bit. 0.78

00:44:16.660 I mean, I have no doubt that she's a total fraud and a-hole and everything she says about, oh, positivity. 1.00

00:44:22.660 I have no doubt that all that is nonsense. 0.99

00:44:25.660 But this is what I'm saying.

00:44:27.660 It, you know, when you first get the claims from someone saying, this person's abusive behind the scenes, it might be true, it might not be true.

00:44:34.660 But then, you know, the claims that come after, the people that come out of the woodwork after that are like almost always full of it.

00:44:42.660 This is the same with Me Too, the Me Too stuff.

00:44:45.660 It's like you have the initial claims, might be true, might not be true.

00:44:50.660 Varying degrees of credibility with those.

00:44:53.660 It's always after that.

00:44:55.660 It's like a few weeks after that when you get the really wild stuff.

00:44:58.660 Because at that point, people figure, well, hey, I might as well go for it.

00:45:01.660 You know, this person's reputation has already been dragged through the mud.

00:45:04.660 Might as well go in and go for it.

00:45:05.660 And so now we're being told that this other person threatened to kill them. 1.00

00:45:08.660 If they don't keep working, I'll kill you all. 1.00

00:45:12.660 You'll all die. 1.00

00:45:14.660 Come on. 0.98

00:45:15.660 That didn't happen. 0.85

00:45:16.660 And there's a white woman behind the scenes of the concert using racial slurs against the black dancers. 1.00

00:45:22.660 That didn't happen either.

00:45:23.660 That didn't happen. 0.98

00:45:25.660 Threatening to kill them.

00:45:26.660 That didn't happen. 0.74

00:45:27.660 Unless it was in an obviously like sarcastic, joking way.

00:45:31.660 Seven days a week for 20 hours a day also didn't happen.

00:45:36.660 No way that happened.

00:45:39.660 Do I have any evidence that none of that happened?

00:45:41.660 No, I just know that it didn't.

00:45:43.660 It's just this is you got to have the finely tuned BS detectors and they can take you far in life.

00:45:48.660 And you can just hear that and get that.

00:45:49.660 I don't think that happened.

00:45:50.660 That probably didn't happen.

00:45:52.660 So significant only because there's the one and only time I will sort of defend Lizzo,

00:45:58.660 even though it wasn't even her that was accused of it.

00:46:00.660 But still.

00:46:01.660 All right, let's get now to the comment section.

00:46:03.660 If you're a man, it's required that you grow a beard.

00:46:06.660 Hey, we're the sweet baby gang.

00:46:10.660 For the Forsaken says, thank you, Matt.

00:46:15.660 I don't think you intended to, but you have made a lot of men feel slightly less crazy for daydreaming about armed intruders attacking them at the grocery store and plotting their unrealistic retaliations.

00:46:25.660 Yeah.

00:46:26.660 You know, this should be the real tick tock trend.

00:46:28.660 If I maybe I could start my own tick tock trend.

00:46:30.660 This is the this is what you should be asking, you know, your husbands and boyfriends.

00:46:35.660 Yeah.

00:46:36.660 How often do you think about the Roman Empire?

00:46:37.660 That's one thing.

00:46:38.660 But but if you really want to be surprised, ask them, how often do you think about being attacked by a whole bunch of bad guys?

00:46:45.660 And how and how and how you'll respond in any given situation, like how often do you enter a new environment and start looking around at what kind of weapons you would use if a whole bunch of bad guys attacked you?

00:46:58.660 And you will probably be be shocked by how frequent those thoughts enter a man's head.

00:47:05.660 Now, part of it is, you know, part of it is just kind of it is just daydreaming.

00:47:11.660 It's the kind of masculine desire for the heroic, you know, but some of it's practical.

00:47:18.660 Like this is how we're wired.

00:47:20.660 We just we always, you know, situational awareness.

00:47:22.660 You got to you got to know where the exits are.

00:47:23.660 You got to know where the potential weapons are.

00:47:25.660 You got to know where the threats are coming from.

00:47:26.660 You know, it just in case something ever happens.

00:47:29.660 David says, I work in an auto body repair shop and we have a dress code.

00:47:35.660 We take pride in looking presentable, even though we get dirty because it encourages standards and decorums as business professionals.

00:47:40.660 Why are there standards for dress in my industry higher than the standards for those that are supposed to represent people like me on a national stage?

00:47:49.660 This makes no sense to me.

00:47:51.660 Lynn agrees and says dress codes should definitely come back to schools.

00:47:55.660 It's a big, big, big problem.

00:47:56.660 Does anyone else besides me see this, especially if you're over 50?

00:48:00.660 Yeah, that's why I said I'm a big fan of dress codes in general, which may surprise you given how I dress every day on the show.

00:48:07.660 But then again, this is my show so I can set the dress code.

00:48:10.660 But in other environments, I think it's good to have dress codes.

00:48:13.660 And if you if a dress code also conveys, you know, how in certain environments, like how seriously you take what's what's happening there.

00:48:25.660 It is a sign of respect.

00:48:27.660 It's why you're why you should dress up at a wet like to show up at a wedding in jeans and a T-shirt or a hoodie and shorts like I guess John Fetterman would.

00:48:38.660 It is a sign of major disrespect.

00:48:41.660 To the people who are getting married to God.

00:48:44.660 It's a it's a sign of major disrespect because what you're communicating is that, well, I can't be bothered.

00:48:50.660 I can't be bothered.

00:48:52.660 It's not important enough to me to bother like taking out my suit and ironing the pants and putting on the nicer shoes and all that can be bothered to do it.

00:49:02.660 That's what you're conveying.

00:49:03.660 I'm also a fan of dress codes in environments where it can cut down on problems in school.

00:49:10.660 You know, yeah, I think every every school should obviously have a dress code.

00:49:16.660 And I don't just mean the bare minimum kind of dress code.

00:49:21.660 I mean, like uniforms, even every school should have uniform.

00:49:26.660 There's really no downside to it.

00:49:28.660 There's major downside to not having uniforms in schools.

00:49:31.660 And I'm not sure what the downside is to having them.

00:49:35.660 Except that the kids don't like them.

00:49:38.660 But that's not really a downside.

00:49:41.660 Let's see.

00:49:42.660 And Pupa Chalupa, great name, says Matt didn't say anything about the Trump stuff because he was busy filming Dancing with the Stars.

00:49:53.660 Duh.

00:49:54.660 That's right.

00:49:55.660 And I do want to say on that note here, finally, I'm glad that you brought that up.

00:50:00.660 I do want to refute some rumors that have been circulating and maybe you've seen some media reports claiming, claiming that Matt Walsh, that being myself, has dropped out of Dancing with the Stars in solidarity with the Hollywood writers because of the writer's strike.

00:50:17.660 And so these reports have been circulating.

00:50:20.660 And I want to say unequivocally that that is totally false.

00:50:25.660 I don't care about the Hollywood writers at all.

00:50:28.660 I think that most of them should be unemployed and homeless anyway.

00:50:31.660 So I would never do any.

00:50:33.660 My solemn pledge to you is that I would never do anything to help the Hollywood writers at all.

00:50:40.660 So I don't care about that.

00:50:43.660 What I care about is the art of dance.

00:50:46.660 And I signed up for the show to dance.

00:50:49.660 And I intend to dance.

00:50:51.660 Because I want to dance.

00:50:54.660 I love to dance.

00:50:56.660 And I need to dance.

00:50:59.660 And soon enough, you'll see proof of that.

00:51:01.660 Soon enough, you will see incontrovertible evidence that I am, in fact, on the show and still on the show.

00:51:11.660 Despite the lackluster economy, the Daily Wire is thriving.

00:51:14.660 And not only that, we are hiring.

00:51:15.660 We're currently looking for a skilled broadcast engineer to join our fast-growing production team.

00:51:20.660 As a broadcast engineer to provide audio and video technical support to ensure the success of all production, the position is based in Nashville, Tennessee.

00:51:26.660 If you have experience in broadcast engineering, we want to hear from you.

00:51:29.660 If you're interested in joining our team, visit dailywire.com slash careers.

00:51:33.660 That's dailywire.com slash careers.

00:51:35.660 Now let's get to our daily cancellation.

00:51:42.660 Trevor Noah is no longer the host of The Daily Show.

00:51:46.660 His tenure lasted for seven years, over a thousand episodes.

00:51:49.660 And amazingly, he did not make one funny joke the entire time.

00:51:53.660 It's kind of shocking because you would think that by sheer mathematical odds,

00:51:57.660 he would inevitably stumble upon one or two funny moments during that entire run.

00:52:01.660 Like a cat walking across a keyboard would eventually write a funny punchline by accident, and it probably wouldn't take seven years.

00:52:09.660 I mean, if you gave Hannah Gadsby a thousand episodes, she'd probably figure out how to get a few laughs here and there. 1.00

00:52:16.660 Well, maybe not Hannah Gadsby, but the cat would, that's for sure.

00:52:19.660 So that didn't happen.

00:52:21.660 But there were moments during the Trevor Noah years where The Daily Show nearly approached being somewhat funny.

00:52:28.660 Just almost.

00:52:31.660 Just never in the way that anyone involved in the show intended. 0.94

00:52:35.660 Funny in a sort of pathetic and embarrassing way.

00:52:38.660 And this week, one of those moments from the show has gone viral. 0.85

00:52:41.660 For whatever reason, a Daily Show clip from 2022 has been making the rounds online this week.

00:52:48.660 And in the clip, a quote-unquote trans woman, otherwise known as a male, named Veronica Ivy, is brought on the show to explain why men should be able to compete against women in sports.

00:52:58.660 And Ivy himself is a world track cycling champion, quote-unquote, who won his accolades in the sport by competing against women.

00:53:06.660 That is, by cheating. 1.00

00:53:08.660 What makes the conversation between Ivy and Noah so interesting is that, first of all, everything Ivy says is utterly fallacious and tremendously stupid. 0.99

00:53:17.660 And on second thought, there's nothing very interesting or surprising about that, I suppose. 0.98

00:53:21.660 But the more fascinating thing is to observe Noah, who clearly recognizes how ridiculous Ivy's assertions are and obviously disagrees with them, but is terrified to push back.

00:53:35.660 So let's go through this clip from the beginning.

00:53:37.660 Watch.

00:53:38.660 This issue, people like to say that it's a complicated issue, and I don't actually think it is.

00:53:43.660 I think it's very simple.

00:53:44.660 It all boils down to, do you actually think that trans women and intersex women are real women and are really female or not?

00:53:54.660 And if you do, it's very simple.

00:53:56.660 Just stop policing who counts as a real woman. 1.00

00:54:01.660 Well, I couldn't possibly agree more.

00:54:03.660 I absolutely agree with that part of it.

00:54:04.660 It's not complicated.

00:54:05.660 It's very simple.

00:54:06.660 And it does indeed, as he points out, boil down to the question of whether you believe that, quote unquote, trans women are real women.

00:54:12.660 And if they are, then of course, of course, they should be able to compete against women. 0.99

00:54:16.660 I mean, it really is that simple.

00:54:18.660 If trans women are women, then yeah, they should be able to compete against women because they're women. 1.00

00:54:22.660 If they aren't, then of course they shouldn't be able to.

00:54:26.660 And they shouldn't be able to because they aren't.

00:54:29.660 So that really should be the end of the conversation.

00:54:32.660 Actually, like, yeah, if if Veronica Ivy, if you're a woman, then you should be able to compete. 1.00

00:54:40.660 But oh, wait, you're not a woman. 1.00

00:54:42.660 And so the end of the conversation.

00:54:44.660 And Trevor Noah could have said that and shut Ivy down right away.

00:54:48.660 But he doesn't.

00:54:49.660 Let's keep watching.

00:54:50.660 Because this has had history of racism built into it over the years.

00:54:55.660 It's not an accident that the intersex athletes who get singled out are women of color from the global south.

00:55:02.660 Because who gets singled out for scrutiny is based on white women's conceptions of femininity. 1.00

00:55:09.660 And that's being weaponized against trans people, too.

00:55:11.660 So it's a fear of protecting the fragile, weak, cis white woman from the rest of us. 0.99

00:55:19.660 So yes, applaud, applaud that absolute nonsense. 0.97

00:55:26.660 Now, first of all, you notice how this man is, as always, too afraid to stand on his own feet and defend his own alleged identity. 0.98

00:55:34.660 And that's why he shoehorns intersex people and black people into the conversation, aligning himself with them as if these two demographics have anything to do with him. 0.97

00:55:43.660 Intersex people have genital deformities. 0.99

00:55:45.660 They are not in any way related to transgenderism. 0.98

00:55:48.660 And black is a race. 0.99

00:55:50.660 It also has nothing to do with being trans. 0.95

00:55:53.660 And these are all points that Noah could make if he had even the slightest hint of a spine.

00:55:58.660 But he doesn't.

00:56:00.660 Instead, he ever so gingerly sort of pushes back.

00:56:06.660 Let's watch.

00:56:07.660 There are many elements to what you said, which I appreciate.

00:56:11.660 So let's try to break them down.

00:56:13.660 One thing that confuses me personally is it seems like we have discussions about who should participate in which category and how.

00:56:24.660 You know, on the face of it, it seems simple, as you say.

00:56:28.660 You know, if somebody identifies as a woman, if they're transgender, they can compete against women who were born biologically. 0.69

00:56:33.660 And then if not, then not.

00:56:35.660 But then there are many who would argue who are not transphobes.

00:56:38.660 There are many who were born biologically women who will say, but you have an unnatural advantage over me. 0.97

00:56:44.660 And that makes the sport unfair.

00:56:47.660 How do you how do you respond to that?

00:56:48.660 Yeah, there's lots of ways you can respond to that.

00:56:50.660 So the first is the very language of you were born and I'm not biological somehow.

00:56:57.660 Like, I don't think I'm a cyborg.

00:56:59.660 So like this idea that like, oh, you're not a biological woman.

00:57:03.660 Well, I am a woman.

00:57:04.660 That's a fact.

00:57:05.660 I am female.

00:57:06.660 So all my identity records, my racing license, my medical records all say female.

00:57:11.660 Right.

00:57:12.660 And I'm pretty sure I made a biological stuff.

00:57:14.660 So I'm a biological female as well.

00:57:16.660 Well, gee, you know, I mean, not to be offensive.

00:57:20.660 I don't want to hurt your feelings.

00:57:21.660 I'm not a transphobe or nothing.

00:57:23.660 It's just that cheese.

00:57:24.660 I mean, maybe you might argue in some sense, possibly, potentially in some way, perhaps

00:57:29.660 it might be to some extent, just a little bit.

00:57:31.660 Arguably, maybe some would say, as some have argued that dudes aren't women. 1.00

00:57:36.660 Please don't hate me. 0.90

00:57:37.660 And to that quivering, jumbled mess of equivocations, the trans person responds with a parade of horrendously 1.00

00:57:43.660 moronic gaslighting. 0.99

00:57:45.660 He claims to be not just a woman, but a female, proving yet again that the gender versus sex 0.97

00:57:52.660 distinction, as I have been saying for years, which was invented by trans ideologues, has 0.96

00:57:57.660 now been officially abandoned by those same ideologues.

00:58:00.660 Gender is sex. 0.99

00:58:01.660 Sex is gender. 0.90

00:58:02.660 They draw no distinction between those two.

00:58:05.660 And how does he prove that he's female?

00:58:08.660 Well, because various pieces of paper say that he is.

00:58:12.660 Now, of course, if the papers did not say that, and for the first portion of his life,

00:58:18.660 into adulthood, they didn't.

00:58:21.660 And if he was not allowed to change his birth certificate to female, if he was not permitted 0.53

00:58:26.660 to retcon his own biological identity, he would still say that he's female.

00:58:31.660 So if the birth certificate says female, it proves that he's female.

00:58:34.660 If the birth certificate doesn't say female, it just proves that the birth certificate is transphobic.

00:58:39.660 That's the way the game is played.

00:58:41.660 My favorite part is his explanation for why he counts as a biological female.

00:58:45.660 He says that he's made of biological stuff, which makes him a biological female.

00:58:50.660 So he says that he's female, and he was able to put it on a piece of paper.

00:58:56.660 And he's also a biological entity, ipso facto.

00:59:00.660 Therefore, he is a biological female.

00:59:03.660 Well, you know, dogs are made of biological stuff too.

00:59:08.660 So are spiders and trees and mushrooms and mold and jellyfish.

00:59:12.660 Are they all human females too? 0.99

00:59:15.660 Now, Trevor Noah could point out how objectively, insanely idiotic all of this is. 1.00

00:59:20.660 But unfortunately, he himself is basically a jellyfish. 1.00

00:59:24.660 So instead he sits meekly and listens.

00:59:27.660 So this question of do trans women have an advantage over cis women?

00:59:33.660 We don't know.

00:59:35.660 In fact, there's basically no published research on this question.

00:59:39.660 However, there's good reason to think that there isn't.

00:59:43.660 But I think it's irrelevant because we allow all kinds of competitive advantages within women's sport. 0.99

00:59:52.660 So one example I love to talk about is the 2016 Rio Olympic women's high jump final.

00:59:58.660 First place was over six foot three.

01:00:00.660 Tenth place was five foot five.

01:00:02.660 So a ten and a half inch height difference between first and tenth at the Olympics in high jump.

01:00:08.660 Right.

01:00:09.660 And we call that fair.

01:00:10.660 Okay.

01:00:11.660 So the range of body types within the female category is way, way bigger than anything that could be attributed to trans women.

01:00:21.660 So if there's an advantage and I'm not saying that there is for trans women in women's sport, it's not an unfair advantage.

01:00:30.660 So we hear two arguments here and they are the only two arguments that trans activists have in favor of allowing men to compete against women. 1.00

01:00:38.660 And they're both fantastically stupid. 0.99

01:00:40.660 So first he claims that we don't know if trans women, quote unquote, have an advantage over real women. 1.00

01:00:45.660 And we don't know that because there aren't any studies about it.

01:00:49.660 But of course, this is a classic red herring. 0.64

01:00:52.660 There may not be very much research about, quote unquote, trans women competing against women only because this is a uniquely recent and modern form of madness. 1.00

01:01:00.660 But there's a ton of research conclusively documenting the advantages that men have over women in sports and trans women are men.

01:01:09.660 We don't need special research to find out if men who believe they're women also share the same inherent biological advantages as other men.

01:01:17.660 We don't need this for the same reason that we don't need to find out if men who like the color red or men who prefer Olive Garden over Applebee's also have an advantage.

01:01:25.660 We don't need it because these factors are completely irrelevant.

01:01:30.660 The inner thoughts and preferences and experiences of the men have no bearing on their innate biological advantages.

01:01:38.660 They have those advantages regardless of what's going on in their heads, obviously.

01:01:45.660 Second, he points out that some women, actual women, are taller and faster and stronger than other women. 0.99

01:01:51.660 And this means that we might as well open up the floodgates and bring in everybody, bring in the men. 0.93

01:01:56.660 But this is this is exactly like saying that some four year olds are bigger and stronger than other four year olds.

01:02:04.660 So we might as well allow 17 year olds to play on their t-ball teams.

01:02:08.660 Obviously, there's going to be variations within categories, but the categories still exist and are knowable and definable and important.

01:02:19.660 Sports are broken down along these kinds of categories.

01:02:24.660 It is fair that the best and most athletic four year olds have the most success on their t-ball teams, even though they don't keep score in t-ball.

01:02:34.660 So no one really can succeed. But I mean, you get the point.

01:02:37.660 And it is fair that the best and most athletic female basketball players have the most success on their female basketball teams. 1.00

01:02:46.660 So the people who are the best within the category are going to be the most successful.

01:02:53.660 It is not fair if someone who does not belong to the category at all is allowed to compete and exploit the advantages that come from being not in that category.

01:03:04.660 So this is all very obvious. Trevor Noah, Trevor Noah understands it.

01:03:10.660 He could say it. But instead, he comes back with this.

01:03:14.660 It's interesting to say that because I think if I were to push back or, you know, even not even playing devil's advocates, there are a few things that could be argued.

01:03:24.660 Number one, you could argue that although the trans woman who competes in the Olympics didn't dominate, she did beat a field of women who might have qualified for that position. 0.87

01:03:33.660 Right. Secondly, when you talk about the height differences, I agree with this completely, but there are many who would argue that we exist in a state where a lot of the surgeries are new.

01:03:46.660 A lot of the technology, just the technology is new. Transgenderism is not new. We know it throughout time.

01:03:50.660 We've seen it throughout history. But there are many who would say, how do we ensure that we are creating some sort of standard?

01:03:56.660 And the reason we talk about this is the reason they have to regulate performance-enhancing drugs.

01:04:02.660 For instance, what is fair? What can you drink? What can you not drink? What can you consume? What can you not consume?

01:04:08.660 Some would say, if you are born that way, that's how sport has determined who goes where.

01:04:15.660 And then some would say, no, regardless of who you are, you should be able to compete.

01:04:19.660 My question then comes in from a really, honestly, a different place.

01:04:24.660 I look at somebody like Oscar Pistorius from South Africa, right? He was the double amputee. 1.00

01:04:29.660 And Oscar Pistorius actually went, well, I want to compete in the able-bodied race, right?

01:04:35.660 And people were like, well, do you have an advantage? Do you not? Et cetera, et cetera, because of the prosthetics.

01:04:38.660 But then could there not be an argument if there is no advantage in that, that then trans women should be able to compete, but in the men's races then? 0.89

01:04:48.660 Because they'd still be able to compete in the sport.

01:04:51.660 But they're women, and they're female. So, like I said, this boils down to, are trans women really women? Are they really female?

01:05:02.660 And no, they really aren't, is the answer to your question.

01:05:06.660 Once again, Noah's point is basically correct. The stuff about transgenderism always existing is not correct, but the basic point is correct. 0.98

01:05:15.660 And yet, from the perspective of the average half-conscious audience member, the trans person is winning this exchange.

01:05:21.660 That's why, if you watch the full clip, he gets all the applause from Noah's own audience.

01:05:26.660 This should hopefully help you to see why I approach this issue the way that I do.

01:05:31.660 The only thing that works, the only approach that's effective, the only response that these people deserve is absolute, blunt rejection of their entire premise. 0.67

01:05:41.660 The moment you pretend to take any of this seriously, the moment you show any respect for this point of view, for the vacuous, asinine nonsense that these people spew, it is the moment you lose. 0.99

01:05:55.660 Almost everyone in the country immediately recognizes that everything the trans person said in that conversation was astonishingly stupid and utterly without merit. 1.00

01:06:04.660 And yet, we have allowed these ideas to take hold. 0.98

01:06:06.660 We have allowed this agenda to spread, largely because people who know better are too afraid to simply call a spade a spade and a man a man.

01:06:14.660 And also too afraid to disagree fundamentally with the premise.

01:06:18.660 Okay, what you just saw there, the reason why that conversation went on and on and on, is because Trevor Noah was unwilling to say to this person, you are not a woman. 0.95

01:06:31.660 So Trevor Noah was trying to find a way to stay sort of on team sanity, where we reject the idea that men can compete against women without refuting or disagreeing with the underlying premise of trans ideology.

01:06:47.660 Trans ideology, which is that trans women are women.

01:06:50.660 So he's trying to find a way to allow that premise to stand, because he can't imagine, he can't imagine actually saying to this person, well, you're not a woman.

01:06:56.660 He can't say it.

01:06:57.660 He cannot say it.

01:06:58.660 He would never say it.

01:07:00.660 And if you won't say it, then nothing else you say about this will matter.

01:07:06.660 Because everything else, all of our other points of view, every other point that we would make about any of this stuff, whether it's sports or gender transition surgeries, whatever, and everything, every point we make follows from the fundamental point that men are men and women are women.

01:07:29.360 And when a man says he's a woman, he still is not a woman. 0.81

01:07:33.360 You cannot abandon that fundamental point or try to ignore it while still trying to take issue further down the line.

01:07:42.360 It doesn't work.

01:07:44.360 People are starting to see that more and more now, which is why recently some of this has started to change.

01:07:49.360 And we see the progress that we've been able to make just in that short time.

01:07:53.360 As for Trevor Noah, he's likely a hopeless case.

01:07:56.360 He'll never come out and plainly say what he knows is true, which is a shame.

01:08:02.360 Because if he's going to be unfunny, he might as well at least be honest.

01:08:06.360 Instead, he's neither.

01:08:08.360 And that's why he is today canceled.

01:08:11.360 And that'll do it for the show today and this week.

01:08:14.360 Thanks for watching.

01:08:15.360 Thanks for listening.

01:08:16.360 Have a great weekend.

01:08:17.360 Talk to you on Monday.

01:08:19.360 Don't do this.

01:08:21.360 Stop.

The Matt Walsh Show - September 22, 2023

Ep. 1228 - Is The Anti-Racism Grift Collapsing？

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